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Welcome. 
To the boys listen to the. 

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Passion and come to far. 
It's John again. 

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It's done it's that's today. 
We're going to be doing a 2526 

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preview for the season ahead. 
I'm joined today by familiar 

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faces Aaron Mackintosh and Joe 
Mctaggart. 

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I'm your host Finn Crocker and 
let's start with some managerial

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movement in the championship, 
Aaron. 

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There's been a lot of movement 
between managers, obviously 

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Brian Gray and rejecting the 
managerial role at Partick 

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Thistle a few with along with a 
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What do you think of it? 
Very strange when you think 

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about going back to the 
playoffs. 

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I mean, for me, Brian Graham's 
been Thistle's main man for how 

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many years now? 
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I think he joined. 
He's been their star player ever

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since then. 
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appointed, February time, March 
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He's been so adamant that you 
wanted that job. 

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And, you know, you kept saying 
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television, every game that was 
on your radio, every game that 

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was mentioned, the part he said 
I want the job, I want the job. 

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What happens? 
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know, he doesn't want it. 
It's strange one, I kind of see 

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it because there's so many off 
the field. 

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I mean, we're seeing it now. 
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arise at this moment in time. 
It's not strange, but you kind 

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of yeah, if he wants to prolong 
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managerial career, which could, 
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another, you know, he's in fine.
You know, he's a he's a fine 

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figure of a player. 
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at least if he really wanted to 
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And he's going to Falkirk and 
he's going to I think he's a 

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great signer for Falkirk and I 
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job there. 
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his Thistle's loss. 
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consider maybe what's going on 
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Thistle as well. 
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given a more detailed plan for 
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the summer and maybe wasn't 
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Or on the flip side of if 
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more than part of Thistle could.
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prolonging his, his career. 
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in the Premiership. 
It's quite, it'd be quite an 

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attractive offer for him to 
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them up, at least have a good 
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Think I think he's going to be a
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really do. 
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about Falkirk is who's going to 
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I've said it before, the last 
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know, every sort of player 
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scored, winner scored. 
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#9. 
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Added that situation straight 
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You've had him, you should get 
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Yeah, I mean, Scott Arfield was 
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towards the back end of last 
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I. 
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did he score? 
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I think he scored twice on his 
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I think it was a hat trick on 
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Hat trick? 
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He's going. 
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players. 
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at the Premiership and I think 
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Falkirk. 
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I think you need, I think 
there's been talks before John 

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Mcglin wanting to reunite him. 
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resign them for Race Rovers. 
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going around that he might be 
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John Mcglin was the manager. 
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signed them for Race Rovers for 
Morton and pretty much saved his

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career. 
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more. 
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if you might not remember, there
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I think the manager at the time 
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weight and he was one of the 
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You know, it's we things like 
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it took maybe about 3/4 of the 
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into rhythm of goals, scoring 
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wherever he's been. 
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Aaron, I mean, I think I think 
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season for Brian Graham and 
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lot of things that we've got to 
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I think there's going to be a 
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of Brian Graham and like in his 
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manager role to be back in the 
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That was the reason he didn't he
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as a player on its own. 
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that he turned down the job at 
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there's a whole host of reasons 
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But I think we've seen over the 
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gone was the first time in a 
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up from the championship. 
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between these. 
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if it was an unhealthy number. 
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but we only got 15 goals last 
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That's the first year in quite a
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We can't ignore that. 
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or three years ago. 
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I think he's still an excellent 
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but I think it's easy to forget 
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taking the step up from the 
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As well as that, Falkirk aren't 
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every game or even going to have
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Thistle has in the Championship.
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when the Frictures were 
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Fans have to realise that 
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successful, they're not going to
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many games, maybe even any 
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So Brian Graham and the Falkirk 
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chances they get that quite 
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far between. 
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clinical and I feel that could 
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for Brian Graham, who is used to
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in the Championship and get the 
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But there's a much more tactical
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Yeah, and then we saw obviously 
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part of this little manager 
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A lot of the fans were 
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their full support. 
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And I saw quite a few saying the
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You know, they're really unhappy
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get Brian Graham over them. 
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season. 
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Neil Lennon signed the new 
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keeping him there until 2027. 
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players like Victor, One Yaman, 
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Obviously he got a red card in 
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plan but you know, being able to
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Dunfermline and could could help
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maybe. 
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think that's going to be the 
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the season, getting Neil Lennon 
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they're going to have to really 
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I mean, they've been in the 
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now and I think they do. 
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we've all got a good chance this
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playoffs. 
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Yeah, it's really open. 
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league. 
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speakers, are we throwing 
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I think that we're still, I 
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playoffs. 
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that's all fans will think, you 
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going on behind there. 
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games, if you get a good run of 
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United have strengthened the 
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with Ross County and then 
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to be a very Open Championship 
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I think I know Aaron's been very
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Rovers fan talking about 
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wouldn't want them to do that 
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I think Neil Lennon was the best
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Honestly think, I think the fans
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I'm glad the fans aren't taking 
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potential that Neil Lennon could
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he's not done it yet. 
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interim spell was a great 
example, but there's got to be 

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more of that over a sustained 
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But I'm not just saying about 
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players will look at the 
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honestly, Barr the end of the 
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and his spell abroad, he's gone.
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Folks say he can be a bit of a 
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fruitlatten. 
He's got a stellar record. 

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He did well at Bolton until they
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brought up when they had other 
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and Dunfermline they managed to 
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I know the points deductions, 
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part in it, but I've got no I 
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Livingston who ended up going up
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home game and honestly you 
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second and 9th in that league at
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on on his day. 
The Championship can turn into a

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crazy league. 
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expect from it this season with 
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coming into it, but they'll 
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games, I'm sure of it. 
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there is someone out there to 
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that they've got the fan base to
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size of clubs because I partly 
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But when you see the clubs and 
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of a lot of the clubs that have 
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recently, Dunfermline, Aaron's, 
Rate, Rovers, so many clubs have

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got reason to be thinking 
there's no reason why they can't

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be there either. 
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experimented with a few managers
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Michael Teds have been the 
perfect example, trying to get a

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young up, up and coming guy. 
I saw where they were coming 

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from. 
It just didn't pay off and they 

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didn't have the time to give 
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Adding Neil Lennon, it just 
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I can see it being a really 
promising period, but Paris fans

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have to be patient as well. 
I think just one thing there, I 

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think the, I mean, I don't think
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Dunfermline fans. 
They relied too much on Chris 

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Kane to for like half the 
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There was a period where I 
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10-11, maybe 12 games. 
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Dunfermline was Chris Kane and 
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I mean. 
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for for years are in I I'm I'm 
I'm worthy of forgetting about 

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Kevin Nesbitt, but I would say 
since Kevin Nesbitt the firm and

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haven't had a reliable goal 
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I, I sometimes find myself going
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before, before I remember Kevin 
Nesbitt, but I feel like that's 

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what someone in the Championship
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And I thought Dunfermline, maybe
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Falkirk eventually coming in for
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But I thought Dunfermline should
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getting Brian Graham because I 
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obviously it hasn't turned out 
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I think there's real potential 
for Connor Young, who's come 

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from Edinburgh, came in January 
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could do him good. 
But I, I'm, I'm not talking 

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rocket science here. 
I'm sure Neil Lennon knows this.

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A striker is what Dunfermline 
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next level. 
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Premiership, there's there's 
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to Championship with managers. 
Obviously Stuart Kettlewell been

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appointed Kilmarnock manager, a 
shock appointment for Stephen 

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Presley at Dundee which caused, 
you know, a lot of memes and a 

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lot of outrage from from fans. 
Jens Berthel Ascu appointed by 

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the well boss, sorry for a 
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And finally, obviously Russell 
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Rangers manager after all that 
speculation. 

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So there's been a lot of 
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What do you guys think has been 
the best appointment and 

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probably the worst, which would 
be Stephen Presley? 

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We just going straight into the 
Stephen Presley slander, right? 

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Now, yeah, go on. 
It's not much, few years or you 

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know anything. 
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you know, pass the football guy.
But why did he see that in his 

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press conference? 
Why did he see what he did at 

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his press conference? 
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somebody, you know, really 
wanting to go for it straight 

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away in the season. 
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not, you know, going to win the 
Premiership. 

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We know that. 
But where's the ambition? 

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And you know, where's the 
where's the? 

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I like his honesty, don't get me
wrong, but. 

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I was going to say that. 
Aaron, can I play devil's 

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advocate with you? 
Yeah, go on. 

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What if he said I am your guy to
win trophies? 

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Well, yeah, I mean, but The 
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going to happen this evening. 
They could do something 

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unbelievable. 
I'm not seeing the Premiership. 

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There is a Scottish Cup, there 
is a League Cup. 

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But if, if you're going to see 
that street, are we? 

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You want the fans on site, don't
you? 

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You. 
Don't, yeah, you can say, you 

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can say you're not the right man
for to win trophies, but you can

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also say, you know, I want to 
change that. 

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I've got ambition at this club. 
I want to be the guy that 

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delivers the trophies. 
I've got a wee bit of a soft 

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spot for a stay in prison. 
My dad taught him at the school 

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and he's a lovely, lovely guy. 
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fighting this corner a wee bit 
more than I normally would. 

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But I mean, I feel like that 
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context. 
I mean, he understood that 

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Dundee fans were, I'd say when 
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of Scottish law fans confused 
more than anything because it 

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kind of came out of left field 
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And he kind of, I think he was 
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saying, I understand. 
I mean, you've not got a lot of 

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reason to be enthusiastic right 
now. 

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And if you listen to the full 
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change that. 
But right now they have no 

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reason to think that I am. 
But I hope to change that. 

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That's that's what he said. 
And social media being it's 

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reactionary wonder circled in on
a few of those words. 

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And I get it. 
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quotes. 
And believe me, they got it. 

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Bloody hell. 
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have been a wee bit harsh on 
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I, if I was a Dundee fan I 
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the appointment. 
And my main take away from the 

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appointment has been was it 
really worth sacking Tony 

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Docherty for? 
No, I mean, I mean, Stephen 

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Presley's came in. 
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in England everywhere, but most 
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But but there's been reports. 
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Mexican connection at Dundee 
already, but they look to sign, 

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they look set to sign a Montre 
trio of George, oh, sorry, Jorge

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Landeros, Jose Orias and Oscar 
Soto. 

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So oh. 
Well done, well done. 

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Thank you very much. 
Thank you very much. 

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I've been practicing that. 
So yeah, obviously using those 

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funky connections already. 
I think they've already got 

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Porta. 
Porta, alas, is Mexican. 

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So kind of adding to that. 
Cohort send the boys to train 

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over there as well. 
Yes, they did. 

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I can't remember the name, but 
they did, yeah. 

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Saying a couple of young players
over there to. 

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Play. 
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that Mexican cohort. 
It's quite unusual, but excited 

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to see who it is because 
Monterey obviously a big name. 

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I think they are at the Club 
World Cup currently. 

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So they're a big, big name, big 
club. 

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Obviously don't know too much 
about the players, don't watch 

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the Mexican League myself, but 
we'll see how they're coming and

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do. 
So very for me, just the going 

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back to the Presley point when I
think it is, I just think it's a

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bit of a risk just because this 
is a guy who's not managed. 

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People say they're not managed 
in Scotland. 

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I mean he's not managed in 
senior football in about 6 

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years. 
Last job was at Carlisle United.

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I'm sure that was in League 2 in
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Wasn't success. 
I think he only lasted a few 

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months and I know that he's gone
to Brentford. 

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He's gone near been, you know, 
part of the Academy, being part 

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of the coaching side. 
Then he might have learned 

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something completely. 
You know, you see what Brentford

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are doing in the Premier League,
It's quite remarkable the way 

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that they're playing. 
These young players are selling 

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them on, you know, profits and 
stuff like that are selling them

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on brilliantly. 
And no, the young players are 

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still, you know, for me what 
I've heard are developing 

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brilliantly and the so be 
interested to see what he's 

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actually learned at Rentford. 
I think that's the thing you 

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need to see what he does with. 
I think it's more what is he 

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learnt from Brentford rather 
than what is he learnt from 

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Carolina is what is he learnt 
from Fleetwood Town And it's 

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just don't look at those. 
I think look at what he's going 

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to do at Brentford and see if he
can do something like that. 

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Dundee you might, you might even
be a good help for the young 

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players as well if he's been 
involved in player development. 

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If they've got good young 
players, I mean they have got 

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good young players, but they 
need more in the team, then 

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maybe getting somebody in player
development is going to be a big

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help for. 
Them. 

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Yeah, I mean, that's a good 
point. 

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Stuart Kettle, well appointed as
Kilmarnett manager, obviously 

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replacing Derek Mcinnis after, I
think I'm right to say, walked 

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away from Motherwell. 
Am I right to say that? 

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Yeah. 
Well, you can see that, yeah. 

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I think, I think he walked away 
from Motherwell. 

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It came out and said that he had
said because of the abuse from 

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the supporters, yeah. 
So yeah, appointed as commander 

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manager replacing Derek McInnes.
Obviously that'd be a hard, a 

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hard role to fill. 
Obviously Derek McInnes come in 

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and been so, so reliable. 
I'd say for for Kilmarnock, 

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steering them back into, you 
know, trying to get consistent 

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top six, obviously not going the
way some seasons, but I think 

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it'll be quite hard for him to 
fill the books of Derek McInnes.

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He's he was good for for 
Motherwell, I'd say. 

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But what do you guys, what do 
you guys see him doing next 

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season? 
It's hard, isn't it? 

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It's hard. 
What what what's successful for 

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Kilmarnock? 
That's the only thing this was 

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success getting into Europe is 
success in the Premiership. 

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Just really depends on what the 
classes, what success and and I 

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think, you know, again, we're 
talking about Stephen Brasley, 

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Stuart Kayla has done things at 
youth development, there's lots 

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of young players at Kilmarnock 
as well. 

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I think he'll thrive in that 
environment and thrive work with

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Chris Burke. 
I've heard good things about his

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Academy team and I think he 
might really enjoy working with 

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young players again. 
I think maybe that's the reason 

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why they've appointed him over, 
you know, you've seen what 

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Motherwell are doing. 
You know, they've point to 

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foreign managers in the space of
how many months, 345 months or 

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so they're going for, you know, 
reliable people, people who work

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in the youth Academy and to try 
and get this team with young 

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players playing further. 
So maybe that's the key to it. 

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Maybe he's not European 
football. 

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Maybe the key is developing the 
young players, getting them to 

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play as many games as you can in
this season, try and get the 

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next. 
You know, we see what Bobby 

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Wales has done. 
He's gone to Swansea, he's done 

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good things at Cullinet. 
Can they do something else? 

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Can we get another Bobby Wales 
into that team with young 

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players? 
Can they get another David 

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Watson into that team with young
players? 

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Maybe that's the reason why 
they've appointed them. 

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You touched you touched on what 
come on the fine success as 

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Ireland. 
That's a good point because 

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they've obviously had the high 
of Europe so recently they'll 

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also be so eager to chase that 
again. 

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But there's been so many 
mitigating circumstances I've 

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got in the way since. 
I think Dundee United's Hibs 

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really and Aberdeen really upped
their game this season, so to 

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take over clubs that have those 
resources is going to be an even

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bigger ask. 
They've also lost a manager, 

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Derek McInnes. 
I don't think, with all due 

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respect to Kilmarnagar, I think 
Macinnes had probably outgrown 

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his boots at Kilmarnock and I 
think they were never going. 

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It's like with Steve Clark, they
were never going to be able to 

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get someone in with as much 
expertise as the guy that had 

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just left. 
No disrespect to Killwell, I 

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think Kettlewell was probably a 
good fit for Kilmarnock. 

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I think is still a football 
works really well, hence they've

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signed a six foot 7 striker or 
something and that'll be an 

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absolute joy to watch at Celtic 
Park I'm sure. 

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But I, I think the most that 
these clubs like your 

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Kilmarnocks and Dundies and 
those that were in and around 

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the relegation zone but were 
never in too much danger either 

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last season. 
I think the most that they can 

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really ask for is to be where 
St. 

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Mirren are, is getting top six 
and being very comfortable 

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having a really compact team and
not changing too much every 

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year. 
And if you get top 6 from there,

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maybe build on Europe, maybe 
build up to Europe in the split.

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But that I don't think Europe 
can be an expectation for a lot 

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of these clubs. 
Yeah, I agree. 

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Moving on to Motherwell, 
obviously it's a bit of an 

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unknown. 
Their new manager, he was most 

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recently head coach in Sweden, 
IFK, Gothenburg, Gothenburg. 

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Joe, you, you can correct me on 
that. 

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It's it's Gothenburg, since 
that's, I thought it turned it 

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from. 
Yeah, that's where from. 

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You'll know. 
Well, that's where Aberdeen won.

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There, Yeah. 
Gothenburg. 

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Oh yeah. 
Aberdeen supporter. 

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Well, I thought. 
It might be Gothenburg but I 

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wasn't sure. 
I didn't want to presume it's 

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spelt weirdly. 
It's spelt in the Swedish way. 

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Yeah, obviously he's he's been 
assistant manager at Sparta 

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Prague and most recently 
Copenhagen. 

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He spoke highly of Jimmy Talin 
from his time in Sweden in his 

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press conference and obviously 
mentioned Russell Martin from 

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their time as as teammates at 
Norwich when he was a player. 

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He's a bit of an unknown, so I 
think we'll just have to wait 

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and see for what he gets up to. 
But anyway, Russell Martin 

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officially appointed as Rangers 
manager. 

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There's been a lot of noise 
about, you know, Davidia 

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Enchilatte Russell Martin first 
was was reported to have 

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rejected the job and and 
obviously now officially 

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appointed. 
It was such a vital appointment 

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after the takeover was 
officially announced. 

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What do you guys think of the 
appointment, first of all? 

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And secondly, what do you think 
he has to do to get not only the

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fans keeping the keeping the 
fans on his side, but also, you 

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know, trying to trying to break 
that Celtic dominance and, and 

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you know, it's, it's hard, but 
go for the title. 

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I think what he used to do is 
get the fans on site quickly. 

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Not a lot of them. 
When I say not a lot of them, 

444
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,800
usually you see some people say 
I didn't, you know, I think 

445
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,040
they've looked at him as what he
was as a player. 

446
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,800
Maybe he was on loan there and 
wasn't highly regarded. 

447
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,400
That's completely different now.
You know, how long has it been 

448
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,880
since he was a player at 
Rangers? 

449
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,600
It's been a few years now. 
He's been in management for a 

450
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,200
while now. 
He's, you know, been successful.

451
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,800
You know, he's played a good 
value and good brilliant style 

452
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,880
of play. 
And I think it's something 

453
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,240
that's a little bit different. 
I think coming in same we're 

454
00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,520
going to play this sound style 
of play and he knows what. 

455
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,240
No, there's no, there's no 
getting away from it. 

456
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,880
I mean, we know what he's going 
to bring and that's what, you 

457
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,360
know, the style of play and what
he's going to bring. 

458
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,000
He's not going to change his 
style. 

459
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,200
I mean, but I think I've just 
remembered there now. 

460
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:21,200
I think when he was at NK Dons, 
there was some fans, some 

461
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,920
supporters, some maybe a fan 
group in particular that didn't 

462
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,680
like the way that they were 
playing. 

463
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,520
I think they were 15th or 
something like that. 

464
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,480
And League One at the time. 
I think they were League One at 

465
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,760
the time and and you know, he 
said we're not changing the way 

466
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,760
we're playing. 
We were the highest in 

467
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,360
possession in this league. 
We might not be scoring goals, 

468
00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:44,560
but I believe in this team. 
I believe in this group. 

469
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,760
And so I think, you know, 
there's no, there's no get away 

470
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,240
from that. 
We know what he's going to bring

471
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,880
in terms of style play. 
What he needs to do is get the 

472
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,720
fans on side, get a good run in 
Europe as well. 

473
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,080
That's the main thing. 
And can you judge somebody after

474
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,600
one season? 
No, that's the only thing. 

475
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,440
I mean, I mean, this is the 
first summer in a while that the

476
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,760
range of appointed a new manager
starting in the summer, if you 

477
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,120
get what I mean. 
You know, Philip Clement was 

478
00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:14,720
appointed mid season and you 
know, Van Bronkos was 

479
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,880
appointment season. 
Beal was appointed mid season. 

480
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,360
So he's starting. 
It's like it's starting the 

481
00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:22,880
whole thing. 
No fresh up from no grand level 

482
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,080
up. 
And what he needs to do is get a

483
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,320
good run in Europe, get a good 
run of games in the in the 

484
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,480
Premiership when at the hardest 
venues as possible. 

485
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,240
I don't people are seeing the 
title race might be narrower. 

486
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,720
I don't see it. 
It could be, but I just don't 

487
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,120
see it. 
So getting a trophy on board, 

488
00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:47,640
getting a League Cup, getting a 
Scottish Cup, one of the two 

489
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:53,320
success, that's a success, 
that's a trophy and getting a 

490
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,280
good run in Europe and that's a 
good starting point and then 

491
00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:01,280
keep building and building up. 
An embarrassing result versus 

492
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,560
Iceland losing 3 went at home. 
It was a bad day off for 

493
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,320
Scotland but I'd say an even 
worse one for Kieran. 

494
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,120
Slicker came off the bench after
7 minutes to make his debut due 

495
00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:14,440
to another Angus gun injury. 
But within, you know, 60 

496
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,880
seconds, 120 seconds, he gifted 
the ball to Iceland and Andrea 

497
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,720
Good Johnson capitalised with 
what what you can only describe 

498
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:27,120
as an excellent finish. 
Despite the mistake, the night 

499
00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:30,080
just got worse and worse. 
Luckily I missed it. 

500
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,360
I was supposed to be going but I
took a miss and gave my ticket 

501
00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:35,960
to my dad and I'm sure he 
enjoyed it a lot. 

502
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,560
You're evil, you know that? 
You are so evil. 

503
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,280
Yeah, what do you guys make of 
the game? 

504
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,280
Do we have to talk about the 
game? 

505
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,960
Horrible. 
We'll touch it and then we can 

506
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,520
move on to the amazing game of 
against Lexus then. 

507
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,200
I just want to talk about, I'll 
talk about Kieran Slicker, but I

508
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,560
don't want to talk about Kieran 
Slicker. 

509
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,680
I want to talk about why he was 
in the position that he ended up

510
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,600
being. 
Because there's been a lot of 

511
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,160
talk of oh, there was no one 
else. 

512
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,200
There was no one else. 
If there was no one else, then 

513
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,400
how come he was call able to 
call up someone else? 

514
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:15,040
Afterwards he talked about how 
there was someone was that Cal 

515
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,160
McKenna who'd been in training 
with the squad but wasn't part 

516
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,040
of the match day squad. 
There was no reason that can be 

517
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,040
Kieran Slicker as well or 
instead. 

518
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,680
Well, well, I think, I think I 
just have to add that he wasn't 

519
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,920
planned to be the number 2 on 
the day. 

520
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,600
Robbie McCrory was actually 
supposed to be the number 2 but 

521
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,600
was injured in the warm up. 
I realise that but to me any 

522
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,560
goalkeeper that's in the match 
day squad should be in a 

523
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,320
suitable position to come on if 
they need to. 

524
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,680
And I mean if that if if not 
then what's the point in even 

525
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:51,200
having him there? 
So I think it was a horrible 

526
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,040
situation for him to be thrown 
into and I think Steve Clarke 

527
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,440
has take the full 
responsibility. 

528
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:01,480
I mean I think this was actually
Slickers first appearance at 

529
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,040
senior level. 
Don't he's ever played a league 

530
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,240
game. 
Maybe a handful of League Cup 

531
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,880
games. 
Yeah, he's played a few in the 

532
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,600
cup, yeah. 
In FA Cup game for sure for 

533
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,600
Ipswich, I think, I think for 
Rochdale as well, but. 

534
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,560
Yeah, so I mean, he's not, he's 
not even played a league game 

535
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,800
yet. 
So yeah, not, not great. 

536
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,480
It reminded me a lot of it 
wasn't far off. 

537
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,840
What happened to David Marshall 
getting his debut for Celtic. 

538
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,520
He he had to come on, he came on
at half time against Barcelona 

539
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,680
and and at home and then played 
the second leg away to 

540
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,240
Barcelona. 
Celtic ended up holding on to A1

541
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,840
nil win home and away and I feel
like that was a make or break 

542
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,440
for David Marshall's career. 
I really hope this isn't a break

543
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,080
for Kieran Sticker and he learns
from it. 

544
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,280
I know it's easier said than 
done. 

545
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,000
I think Kieran Sticker's 
actually younger than me, which 

546
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,480
is mental to mental to think it.
If he's, if he's older, it's 

547
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,720
marginal. 
So I really hope the whole team 

548
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,320
gathers around him. 
We've got to be really careful 

549
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,880
how we hand him in the future. 
But for me, Roston should have 

550
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,840
been that third goalkeeper from 
the very start to prevent that 

551
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:11,040
situation ever occurring anyway.
I felt really sorry for him. 

552
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,440
I have to admit. 
I felt really, really sorry for 

553
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,960
him. 
You just, you know, you just 

554
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,800
see, you've, I think we've all 
seen at one point they just 

555
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,040
went. 
You just see a guy who's having 

556
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,160
a shocker and there's nothing 
you can do about it. 

557
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,600
And when it's a goalkeeper as 
well, it's even worse. 

558
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:31,560
You know, You know, it should 
have been the proudest moment of

559
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,600
his career. 
Let's be honest, playing for 

560
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,320
your country in front of Hampden
Park, you know, in front of how 

561
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,520
many was there, 30,040 thousand 
or so at night. 

562
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,640
It should be the proudest moment
of your career. 

563
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,720
It's probably one of the worst 
moments of his career. 

564
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,280
And I've really felt sorry for 
my thought. 

565
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,000
There were certain things I 
didn't like in the crowd. 

566
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,280
I mean, there was one thing 
where I think in the 

567
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,280
second-half, you know, he went 
and gathered the ball. 

568
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,000
I don't know if he's remember. 
I think you just said that he 

569
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,440
went and gathered the ball and I
think he grabbed it and, you 

570
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,520
know, landed on on it. 
And I think just to be safe and 

571
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,000
everybody just started the 
crowd. 

572
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,480
No cheering, you know, clapping 
their hands. 

573
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,440
And I just think there's no need
for that. 

574
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,400
I mean, he's had a shocker. 
He's a young guy as well. 

575
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,880
You, you don't want to be in 
that position. 

576
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,600
You know, I didn't want to be, 
you know, I wouldn't want to be 

577
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,400
in that position. 
Could you handle being in that 

578
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,960
position? 
I can't, you know, and it's just

579
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,800
I just so sorry for him. 
And you know, I hope, I do hope 

580
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,320
you'll get another chance one 
day. 

581
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,880
You know, I think he needs for 
me, he needs confidence. 

582
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,720
He needs a good move on loan 
somewhere to get some regular 

583
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:45,040
first team football. 
Listen, you'll get, I'm sure 

584
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,560
you'll get another cap one day 
and I've got no doubt about 

585
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,680
that. 
And I think we've got to be 

586
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,200
careful with them. 
I think we're not in a good 

587
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,320
situation with goalkeepers at 
this moment in time. 

588
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,040
We've got to try and protect as 
many of the young guys as 

589
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,560
possible at this moment in time.
And I really hope for his sake 

590
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,400
he gets a good loan somewhere 
this point in this summer and go

591
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,000
out, get some games under your 
belt and get your confidence up 

592
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,880
and then you can come back and 
enjoy. 

593
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,840
You know, your Angus Gunn will 
be back, Craig Gordon will be 

594
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,080
back. 
You know Zander Clark will be 

595
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,560
back. 
Glenn Kelly will be back. 

596
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:24,760
Get gather him around these guys
and he can learn from them and 

597
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,200
he can learn from playing 
regular football alone 

598
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:32,440
somewhere, League 2 if anywhere,
and really get your confidence 

599
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,200
back. 
Yeah, I mean, I think it does 

600
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,160
highlight the the real issue 
we've got with the goalkeeping 

601
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,640
department, kind of a crisis 
now. 

602
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,520
I think Steve Clark actually 
mentioned it. 

603
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,200
There was talks of Chris Brady 
switching allegiance from the 

604
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:52,400
USA to to Scotland, 21 year old 
keeper at Chicago Fire in the 

605
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,200
MLS, You know, real promise and 
talent. 

606
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,560
You know, there's a lot of talk 
about him and he mentioned, you 

607
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,320
know, he, he had ambitions to 
play international in the near 

608
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,920
future, but he didn't really 
mind who that was for, whether 

609
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:10,200
it was USA or Scotland. 
So there was quite some hope 

610
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,160
around that, that he would be 
called up and there was rumours 

611
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,360
about it, but unfortunately was 
called up to Moritzio 

612
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,400
Pochettino's USA squad. 
So that's kind of ended any 

613
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,320
hopes of that. 
And I think it just compounds 

614
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,680
the the kind of crisis we've 
got. 

615
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,920
You know, we've got these these 
veterans, you know, David 

616
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,080
Marshall's now retired. 
Craig Gordon is what, 40? 

617
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:34,800
He looks about 60, but he's 42. 
You know, Angus Gunn, he was 

618
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,760
good when he came in, but 
there's been errors. 

619
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,200
You know, he wasn't good at the 
EUR. 

620
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,640
And you know, you think who is 
our first choice? 

621
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,120
Angus Gunn was he was injured 
and then Zander Clark's injured.

622
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,520
Robin McCrory, You know, who do 
you think can step up into that 

623
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:50,560
role? 
Because it is a big role. 

624
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,240
There's nowhere you can hide as 
a goalkeeper who steps up into 

625
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,240
that role and and, you know, 
takes us forward into that, you 

626
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,720
know, hopefully new generation 
of, you know, promising talents 

627
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,520
striving to to qualify for a 
World Cup. 

628
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,640
It's hard, isn't it, because 
you've got got you've not really

629
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,120
got so many coming through this 
moment in time. 

630
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,240
The under 20 ones looks like 
they're down to their bare bones

631
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,000
as well a little bit. 
And I think the way goalkeepers 

632
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,760
do, one thing you can see about 
goalkeepers don't have that 

633
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,560
train until they're, you know, 
in and around where Liam Kelly 

634
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,880
is right now. 
You know 3031, don't you do 

635
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,720
goalkeepers, you know, see what 
Craig Gordon's doing. 

636
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,720
He, he, he'd been around for, 
how long is he playing football 

637
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,800
for? 
I wish I did my research on how 

638
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,160
long he's been playing football 
for. 

639
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,400
Goalkeepers will be around 
forever and ever and ever. 

640
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:43,840
If the the injury fit, the 
injury free the fit as a fellow,

641
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,080
you can really meet your 
potential 303132. 

642
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,800
That's when you're at your peak 
as a goalkeeper, not at your 

643
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,120
peak. 
You know, if you're a 

644
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,920
midfielder, you're thinking your
peak 26/27/28. 

645
00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:00,560
There's a lot more to come as a 
goalkeeper and I hope that, you 

646
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,240
know, we just keep going with 
these guys that are and you 

647
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,880
know, slicker is one of them. 
You know, Macquarie, he's not 

648
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,639
far away from that age. 
I don't think it's 2627. 

649
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,880
No, we need to keep we just seem
to keep trying as much as we can

650
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,360
and you know, we just need to 
keep believing that we can 

651
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,400
produce. 
You know, we've produced so many

652
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,840
good players with late of, you 
know, recent years or Aaron 

653
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,239
Hecky's come out of, you know, 
the heart, you know, hell, or 

654
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,800
was he when he was 1617, he 
played for belonging. 

655
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,679
He's now, you know, he's now 
playing in the Premier League. 

656
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,480
We got right backs available, we
got centre backs, we got 

657
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,199
midfielders. 
He's a goalkeeper. 

658
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,360
You know, it was never, never a 
problem. 

659
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,960
A few years ago we had Alan 
McGregor, we had David Marshall,

660
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,520
you know, Trey Gordon, all three
of them in their crime, wanting 

661
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,159
to be that number one. 
And you could argue any of them 

662
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:56,360
could have been. 
I think, I know, I know we're 

663
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,280
going to come on to the player 
that's been strongly rumoured 

664
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,360
for a while and Chris Brady, 
who's not quite been ruled out 

665
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,680
for Scotland yet because he's 
only made friendly appearances 

666
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,200
for America. 
But I think there's a case we 

667
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,560
made for Scott Bain because he's
just made his permanent move to 

668
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,640
Falkirk. 
I know his, let me get this 

669
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:21,160
right, his last game for Celtic 
was him coming on as a 

670
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,680
substitute for a minute and Joe 
Hart's last ever game at Celtic 

671
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,400
Park. 
And before that he came on as a 

672
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:33,200
substitute because Joe Hart got 
sent off and then played the 

673
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,440
subsequent game after which was 
a way to Motherwell. 

674
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:39,880
So he's played three games in 
two seasons, a push. 

675
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,800
So he's obviously got a lot of 
work to do. 

676
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,880
But he's going to be a Scottish 
goalkeeper playing regular 

677
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:52,360
football at the top level in 
Scotland and he's been on the 

678
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,640
books that served it for a 
while. 

679
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,000
Celtic wouldn't have him if he 
wasn't a capable goalkeeper, so 

680
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,400
I think that's one to keep an 
eye on. 

681
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,160
That's probably the only bit of 
optimism I'm taking from this 

682
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,160
scenario. 
It's a bit of a like Oscott fans

683
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,640
I'm really worried about because
we've got 2 very capable 

684
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,160
goalkeepers in the league who 
are sitting on the bench and 

685
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,040
Liam Kelly and Xander Clark. 
I know they're both injured at 

686
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,360
the moment, but they'll be back 
soon enough, I assume. 

687
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,160
So I'm really praying that Steve
Clarke, I'm honestly, I'd be 

688
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,920
stunned if he hasn't already 
been on the phone to Chris 

689
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,280
Brady. 
But if he hasn't already gets 

690
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,880
him on the phone, gets his 
Scottish granny's signature or 

691
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,160
something and then gets him over
for, for, for a chat and then 

692
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,600
hopefully a few games. 
Because a goalkeeper playing 

693
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:45,880
regularly at MLS level, I think 
could be a, a real, a real game 

694
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,160
changer for Scotland's. 
But I'm saying this, I'm still 

695
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,680
not against Angus Gunn, but I'm 
questioning his commitment 

696
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,800
because there was talk of him 
purposely not playing a few of 

697
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,200
those games at the end of last 
year. 

698
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,400
Yeah, it's one that we'll just 
have to see for Chris Birdie. 

699
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,800
I guess we can touch quickly on 
the the Liechtenstein game. 

700
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,400
Obviously, it's one that we had 
to win. 

701
00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:13,760
It wasn't a question of if, it 
was just how many we could 

702
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,720
score. 
It ended up being 4. 

703
00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:19,000
Now when Jay Adams scored the 
first Scotland hat trick since 

704
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,400
John McGinn in 2019, I think 
against San Marino, he also 

705
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,240
assisted George Hurst, who got 
his first goal for Scotland. 

706
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,320
But I think even despite the 
impressive performance from Jay 

707
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,120
Adams, it was kind of Lennon 
Miller who who was the star of 

708
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,000
the show for for me personally 
anyway, Boston, the midfield and

709
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,040
I know the the opposition was, 
you know, not good. 

710
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,520
But you can only play what's in 
front of you first start for 

711
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,000
your country. 
And he, he looked an absolute 

712
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,360
natural. 
And you know, you can go back 

713
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,280
to, to when he made headlines 
for the wrong reasons for, for 

714
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,320
saying he could be the best in 
the squad in a couple of months.

715
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,040
You know, he, he, he did 
apologize for the same time 

716
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,480
frame of use, but wrong. 
Reason. 

717
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,680
Yeah, I was about to say I don't
think he's got anything he he 

718
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,160
should be apologizing for. 
I think we need players striving

719
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,160
to be the the the best that they
can be. 

720
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,480
And, and for him just saying 
that he wants to be the best, I 

721
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,200
think it was taken quite out of 
context. 

722
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,800
And I think that he's proven 
though that he can be the best. 

723
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,400
And I think in that game that he
was I. 

724
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,960
Think, I think he was actually 
one of our best players against 

725
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,640
Iceland as well. 
You know, I think he came on. 

726
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,120
He actually did quite well. 
You know, what could you do when

727
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,840
you're 31 down? 
You actually came on. 

728
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,800
He wasn't afraid, you know, for 
commitment, you know, wasn't 

729
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,200
afraid to run with the ball. 
He wasn't afraid to pass around,

730
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,960
wasn't afraid to take some, you 
know, dangerous crosses away. 

731
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:42,280
He's stood out well against 
Iceland and then on against 

732
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,720
Liechtenstein. 
Again, You've just said you can 

733
00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:48,440
only judge him on who he's up 
against. 

734
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,520
But you know, you've got to beat
these teams and you, you 

735
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,000
certainly stood out very well. 
Can he do it against Denmark and

736
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,800
in Copenhagen in a couple of 
months? 

737
00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:05,200
Time yeah, we can touch quickly 
on the Premier Sports Cup draw 

738
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,160
that happened I think a couple 
weeks ago now. 

739
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,640
Hearts in the group stages, 
they'll face stolen Albion at 

740
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,200
4th Bank on TV. 
That'll be a good one. 

741
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:15,520
St. 
Mirren, St. 

742
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,880
Johnstone, Kilmarnock, 
Motherwell, Dundee and obviously

743
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,960
Falkirk, the big names in it. 
Do you see there any being, do 

744
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,360
you see any shocks happening? 
You know Bricancetti Bonnie Rig 

745
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,800
Rose outside the the the pyramid
now, but they could cause a few 

746
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,520
upsets I think. 
There's only one. 

747
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,640
Yeah, sorry, sorry, Aaron. 
I think the only one that stands

748
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,640
out to me purely because they 
were so close to going up last 

749
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:46,080
season's maybe Edinburgh City. 
They've got, they've got, they 

750
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,040
don't have a premiership team in
their in their group. 

751
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,520
They've got 2 championship teams
in Partick, that's on Ross 

752
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,880
County. 
Partick Thistle seem to be going

753
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,320
through. 
I don't know if a transition 

754
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,520
period is the right word but no 
one really knows what to expect 

755
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,840
from at the moment. 
Ross County have got, don't get 

756
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,160
me wrong, a few big hitters 
coming in, but. 

757
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,320
They'll still be waiting for 
them to settle in at this point,

758
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:12,760
so there's no reason Edinburgh 
City can't at least have a few 

759
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:17,960
certain results against those. 
But apart from that, it's a 

760
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,320
really funny one. 
I mean you touched Finn on it's 

761
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:22,760
five of the teams that don't 
don't come in. 

762
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,360
And so five teams are going to 
be in Europe this year. 

763
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:32,040
So I'm happy for, I mean, we've 
got Kilmarnock and Livingston 

764
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,920
who are going to get a taste for
playing against each other in 

765
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,200
the league. 
I think they've got each other 

766
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,000
on the first day of the league 
season, but they're also in the 

767
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,960
same grip as each other, which 
is going to be a funny one. 

768
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,920
And then, I don't know, I think 
I said it to you when I was 

769
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,720
doing something for my own 
podcast, that you're going to 

770
00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:52,640
get a chance to see St. 
Johnstone up close when they're 

771
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,520
coming into the league for the 
first time in so long. 

772
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,520
So I think it's more just going 
to be a case of I think there's 

773
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,400
more pressure on the big teams 
because if you don't get it 

774
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,360
through, that's any idea of a 
cup ran out the window. 

775
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,240
And that's so important to fans.
But it's a lot of it for the 

776
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:11,800
lower league sides is get a big 
crowd through at some point, be 

777
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,440
that a home or away against one 
of the bigger teams. 

778
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,920
And then also get a chance to 
suss out a few opponents that 

779
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,680
are going to be in your league 
this year. 

780
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,880
But a lot of the teams there 
will there will be one. 

781
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,880
There always is take it too much
that pre season and then end up 

782
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:30,720
shooting themselves in the foot.
The European fixtures were 

783
00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:33,120
decided, I think it was earlier 
this week. 

784
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,880
I've lost track to be honest. 
Rangers drew Panathenacos, who 

785
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,800
finished 13th in last season's 
Conference League. 

786
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:43,080
Obviously Rangers got to the 
quarterfinals, I believe, after 

787
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,560
finishing eighth in the league 
phase. 

788
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,360
So going straight into the 
around the 16 inside of the 

789
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,480
playoff, it'll be a tough game 
for them. 

790
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,400
But I think they do have the the
firepower to get through. 

791
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,680
Obviously Panathenacos got such 
incredible fans, but yeah. 

792
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,320
Sorry to interrupt you there. 
And I think he's going to be 

793
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,800
really interesting how Russell 
Martin lines up in Europe 

794
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:09,680
because football wise reminds me
a lot of and positive Hoglu. 

795
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,240
And for all the praise that and 
positive Hoglu got for Celtic, 

796
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,440
it was all domestically. 
I mean, I do believe that if 

797
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,600
he'd got another year, he 
probably would have done really 

798
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,120
well in Europe and obviously he 
did really well in Europe for 

799
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,320
Tottenham eventually. 
But that kind of football where 

800
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,920
where you where you refuse to 
adapt, it's either going to, 

801
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,640
it's either going to take. 
Off it's really risky. 

802
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,720
It's. 
Either going to take off real, 

803
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:37,920
it's, it's very much fight or 
flight and it's either going to 

804
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,200
take off really well or it's 
just going to go down horribly. 

805
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:47,000
And I, I, I don't know if Martin
is going to be as stubborn as 

806
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,200
Portugal glue has been this 
football down South would 

807
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,400
suggest so. 
But it it might just have to 

808
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:58,360
accept that in a game where it's
a very even game, I think it 

809
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,480
kind of go in all, all guns 
blazing like like he would 

810
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:02,840
against St. 
Mirren. 

811
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,040
Yeah, and it's such a pivotal 
round in the qualifiers because 

812
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,720
if Rangers win this, they're 
going to Champions League 

813
00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:13,120
qualifying round 3 as a seeded 
team, and if they lose this, 

814
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,440
they're going to Europa League 
qualifying round three as an 

815
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,760
unseeded team. 
So it's quite a contrast. 

816
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,680
It's the same for Hibs. 
They've drawn Michelin, Danish 

817
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,680
side. 
It's quite a tough fixture. 

818
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,720
I mean, I think they've got 
their their group. 

819
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,560
There wasn't many that you'd 
France them against. 

820
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,360
I think Anderlecht was in there 
Shaq to the Nesk. 

821
00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:37,560
So there was there was only 
there was only really one or 

822
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:42,760
two. 
Yeah, but they've they've drawn 

823
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,240
Michelin's. 
It's a tough fixture. 

824
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:46,960
It's the first time back in 
Europe, for instance, obviously 

825
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,760
losing to Astonville and the 
conference in playoff, which I 

826
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,440
think they were quite unlucky 
with that draw as well. 

827
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:56,080
Yeah, that was obviously the 
Sunshine and Leith brigade 

828
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,680
coming back. 
But obviously it's a tough 

829
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,080
fixture. 
You don't you probably wouldn't 

830
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,600
see them as favourites. 
They I think they'd have the 

831
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:08,040
second leg Easter Rd. which 
which is a small positive, but 

832
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,480
but it's going to be a tough one
for them. 

833
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,560
I think so. 
I think could be think if they 

834
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,800
come back with, you know, a goal
deficit by teach the road. 

835
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,080
They would probably fancy that. 
Wouldn't they mean they would 

836
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,120
think East Road for house you 
would think is pale? 

837
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:25,840
Yeah, if they come back level, 
yeah, if they come back level 

838
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,920
that they'll fancy themselves. 
But I think it's arrived in the 

839
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,520
first leg, which will be a real 
struggle for them. 

840
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:30,280
I. 
Think so. 

841
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,480
I think that first game being a 
wee is probably going to be more

842
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:34,840
tricky. 
What you think it's going to be 

843
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,960
as well? 
I mean, people have seen the 

844
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:41,240
second leg at home, that's 
fantastic, but we've got to play

845
00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:42,440
the first. 
You know, we're going to play 

846
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,160
the wee leg 1st and that's 
arguably for me worse, isn't it?

847
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,960
I mean, you would much rather 
take get as much privilege as 

848
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,560
you can at home before you go 
away. 

849
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,600
That that's my perspective. 
That's, you know, it's just 

850
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,720
something I've always thought 
that should know. 

851
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,920
That's always been in my head. 
But you know, I think it's going

852
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,720
to be a very hard game. 
Yeah, having a hard time. 

853
00:45:05,720 --> 00:45:08,880
But listen, you don't even know.
I mean, they've got they've got 

854
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,440
as good a chance as any. 
And listen, I think the Hibs 

855
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:17,120
have had some good European 
results in the qualifiers before

856
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,560
and not mentioned the Malamo 
game. 

857
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,720
But Oh my God, that was all 
years ago. 

858
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:26,440
But if we. 
You're older than me. 

859
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,880
I forgot about that. 
But yeah, that's not mentioned, 

860
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,000
an animal game. 
But apart from that, I mean 

861
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,240
they've had some good results 
away from home, difficult 

862
00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:39,840
venues, good comebacks as well. 
I think Easter Rd. 

863
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,360
I think they had one a couple of
years ago as well. 

864
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,280
So who knows? 
Who knows what this draw can do 

865
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,480
for Hibs? 
I can also remember by the time 

866
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,680
much on play Hibs at home, their
legal have already started. 

867
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,480
So I mean there'll only be one 
game in, but they'll have 

868
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,560
another game between the two 
legs as well. 

869
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,680
I think Mitchell, they'll 
probably be in a bit bit more 

870
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,320
physical. 
I think it would be a bit more 

871
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,920
ready physically for it. 
I was just checking if it was a 

872
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,560
summer league. 
It's not, but there's the league

873
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,960
starts about two weeks before, 
which probably suits him quite a

874
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,880
bit more. 
Yeah, I mean, there's this new 

875
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:23,280
thing that's come in to allow 
Scottish fixtures to get not 

876
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,640
postponed, but put back so to 
help, you know, the Scottish 

877
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,160
teams prepare for European 
football. 

878
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,560
But I think it's actually maybe 
slightly disadvantage not having

879
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:37,160
a game between the two legs just
to kind of prepare get because 

880
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,480
at the start of the season 
fitness is is not there yet. 

881
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,960
It obviously takes a couple of 
months, couple weeks to get into

882
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,720
the flow of things and not 
having a midweek fixture, I 

883
00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:46,640
think it's actually slightly 
disadvantage. 

884
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:51,440
Yeah, there's. 
There's been talk of if, I know 

885
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,720
a lot of people have said that a
lot of teams might actually not 

886
00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:57,640
use that request that they might
have when they get to play a 

887
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,400
fringe just to let players get 
time in, in their legs. 

888
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:05,600
But I think if we skip forward 
to January, February time and 

889
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,320
obviously Celtic, Celtic can 
have a doing, They're both 

890
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:09,480
guaranteed to be in the league 
phase. 

891
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:15,120
Hopefully the other teams do it 
as well, but I think they might 

892
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,320
take that request option up. 
If they were to get through to 

893
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,600
knockouts, I think that'd be a 
much more important time to use.

894
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:25,640
It yeah, I mean say Aberdeen get
into the the playoff round in 

895
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,600
the conference league, you know,
finish between between yeah, 

896
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,400
well, I'm, I'm not I'm not too 
helpful and and to be fair, I 

897
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,440
think I'd, I don't know if it's 
too bad to say this, but I think

898
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,480
I'd prefer us in conference. 
I think it'd give us a better 

899
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,080
chance to get into knockouts, 
whereas in Europa being 

900
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,080
obviously and. 
Coefficient wise, it'd be very 

901
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:44,800
wise. 
Yeah, I mean. 

902
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,320
We are to be these as well. 
No, I know, but Europa League is

903
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,000
better away these for me, but I 
I think to have a chance to get 

904
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:57,160
into knockouts at least in that 
top 24, I think conference would

905
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,080
be better. 
So Speaking of conference, 

906
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:03,360
Dundee United drawn against 
Luxembourg side FC Unis Trasen. 

907
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,520
It's only their second time in 
Europe. 

908
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,400
The Luxembourg team, they lost 
to finish side coops 5 nil last 

909
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,360
season in the first round of 
qualifying. 

910
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,840
And I looked at their their 
history and they've generally 

911
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,480
been a mid table team in 
Luxembourg. 

912
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,960
So they were a European 
debutante last season. 

913
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,720
They they they had a nil nil 
draw in the first leg against 

914
00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:29,480
coops at home and then they went
to to Finland and and got 

915
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,840
absolutely spanked 5 nil. 
I've seen I've seen this too 

916
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:36,800
many times. 
Yeah, it's really not giving me 

917
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,440
great help. 
I remember, I can't remember 

918
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,200
which Luxembourg team. 
I think it was a Luxembourg 

919
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,120
team. 
I can't remember their name. 

920
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,600
Who beat Rangers? 
All those. 

921
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:45,440
Years ago. 
That's it. 

922
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,520
That's it. 
So yeah, it's giving me a bit of

923
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,800
a bit of a flashback. 
It's just given it's just given 

924
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:57,480
me inter club Descaldes and I 
know his his I think has bumped 

925
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,040
him about 6th one at home 
anyway. 

926
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,240
But yeah, I mean I'm I mean 
coefficientize. 

927
00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:04,240
Both games are important because
they're taken as individual 

928
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:07,520
games, aren't they? 
Yeah, so, so each win really, 

929
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,800
really helps the coefficient and
you'd hope that Dundee United 

930
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,080
could get a win in both and just
progress as as far as they can, 

931
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,360
because to be honest, I'd I'd 
fancy them against. 

932
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:22,160
Progress. 
That is such a bad joke, God's 

933
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,400
sake. 
Yeah, good one. 

934
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,520
Good one, Joe. 
No, but I fancy them against 

935
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:30,120
cops so to see them against the 
team that that was beaten 5 nil 

936
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,360
by coops, you'd really really 
hope that that they could get 

937
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,040
the job done nice and early win 
both games and just progress 

938
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,400
was. 
It coops at was it coops at 

939
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,600
hearts having conference like a 
few years ago? 

940
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,120
I, I think I can't remember. 
I remember them having a 

941
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,760
Rosenberg and doing a comeback 
against them and. 

942
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,760
Coops no. 
It was when they they were in 

943
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,040
the group with Fiorentino and 
I'm sure there was a team from 

944
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,440
Finland in it. 
We're going Wikipedia, you know,

945
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,520
Wikipedia. 
Here we go, groups. 

946
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,880
Group A. 
It's RFS from Latvia. 

947
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,720
Oh. 
Sorry, sorry, sorry, off road. 

948
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,840
So yeah, it's besak. 
I hear Fiorentina hearts on RFS 

949
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,240
from I think that's Latvia. 
I'm a fraud. 

950
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,280
Yeah, Latvia. 
So nice one, Joey. 

951
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:16,720
We just maybe Google it and it's
not right. 

952
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,880
Yeah, So, yeah, you'd hope 
Dundee United can progress as as

953
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,200
far as they could. 
It's it's kind of like St. 

954
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,600
Vernon last season where they 
got drawn against God. 

955
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,000
I can't even remember what team,
but it was, you know, they were 

956
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,960
big favourites. 
They progressed for that round 

957
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,640
and then eventually made their 
match, met their match. 

958
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,720
So just about how far can Dundee
United get? 

959
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:41,640
Hopefully at least one man round
man, more so moving on since 

960
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,400
last podcast is a new scheme 
announced by the the Scottish 

961
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,520
Football Association cooperation
agreement. 

962
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,680
They've named it. 
It's not replacing loans as a 

963
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:56,280
lot of people have assumed, but 
it allows better integration 

964
00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:00,280
between between the two teams 
where players can switch between

965
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:07,840
the clubs throughout the season.
It allows three players Max per 

966
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:12,680
team to be put on the list and 
it's a parent club and a feeder 

967
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,240
club where Premiership and 
Championship teams can 

968
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,680
essentially lone players to to 
lower league opposition to lower

969
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,720
league clubs. 
And throughout the season if 

970
00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:25,480
they if they've got an injury 
crisis, if they're playing, you 

971
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,840
know, someone in the cup that 
they think you know, this player

972
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,240
would be great to get some good 
game time, test them out. 

973
00:51:31,720 --> 00:51:35,800
They can get them back in just 
for a game or two and then send 

974
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,680
them back afterwards. 
So it it kind of allows those 

975
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,800
players that are are too good to
be on the bench, but not good 

976
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,240
enough to be, to be starting for
the for the team to get some 

977
00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:50,040
valuable game time in the lower 
leagues, but also some some game

978
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,680
time, you know, when it is 
available. 

979
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:58,920
It's interesting this because a 
story broke about 3 weeks ago, 4

980
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,880
weeks ago, maybe more than that,
that Rangers wanted to do this 

981
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,560
with Race Rovers. 
So it's become something that 

982
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:09,600
I've become looking up and just 
seeing all these rules. 

983
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:15,640
We had one of our directors was 
on the club channel saying all 

984
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,440
the stuff about it does for me. 
I'm one of the only people 

985
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,760
probably that strings it 
promising, you know, that a club

986
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,040
the size of Rangers wants to 
loan some players out. 

987
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:29,680
I think the apparently they've 
seen us as a club that are on 

988
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,200
the up, they've seen us seeing 
their player. 

989
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,960
They think that their players 
would be a good style, style of 

990
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,480
play for Barry Robson and his 
team. 

991
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,720
They've seen the progression of 
the football club from the fan 

992
00:52:41,720 --> 00:52:45,880
base we've had. 
Joe would know more than as 

993
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,640
well. 
I mean, we we had, we were at 

994
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,400
1400 season tickets. 
How many years ago? 

995
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,120
Four years ago, five years ago. 
We're now around about 2 1/2 

996
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,520
thousand. 
And so they're they're 

997
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,160
interested in coming to be 
throwers to loan some players 

998
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,840
out. 
This is a story that broke about

999
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,360
3-4 weeks ago. 
We found this out on the club 

1000
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,840
channel, it's gone quiet because
there's been a lot of changeover

1001
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,040
at Rangers, obviously new 
boards, new imagine it's going 

1002
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,920
to be new director of football 
as well along with the new 

1003
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,840
management team. 
So it'll be interesting if if 

1004
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,240
anything does come to this. 
I know Celtic I think are 

1005
00:53:19,240 --> 00:53:23,800
looking at Queen's Park and here
I think here have actually gone 

1006
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,760
to East Kilbride, sorry E 
Dillonshire even they went to 

1007
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,360
East Dillonshire and they're 
going to be doing the 

1008
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,160
disagreement with them. 
So it was no, I'm all for it. 

1009
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,400
I think it doesn't make you feel
like AB team. 

1010
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:43,160
It makes offence and you want to
get as many players into your 

1011
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,640
squad as possible. 
And I've said it before already,

1012
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,160
we've had an injury crush of so 
many players that may be getting

1013
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:56,320
3234 players and alone from, you
know, one of these corporation 

1014
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,720
agreements might help boost your
squad up by just a few players 

1015
00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:03,440
and that can be enough to help. 
Yeah, yeah, I mean the, the, 

1016
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,040
there's a restriction on it 
where you can't send players to 

1017
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:10,760
more than one team per league. 
So obviously if say Aberdeen 

1018
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,040
wants to send players to the 
Championship, they'd have to 

1019
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,000
pick one club, 1 club only and 
you know, commit to that club 

1020
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,040
into the. 
Corporation agreement Celtic 

1021
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,720
have entered an agreement with 
Queen's Park. 

1022
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:25,800
Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. 
I know, I know, whoever the big 

1023
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:30,720
guy is at Queens Park, I know 
he's had relations with Celtic 

1024
00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:32,360
in the past and we've got a. 
Friend. 

1025
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,440
Yeah, there's been a few. 
We've got a friendly with 

1026
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,800
Amnition, we had one last year 
as well, so it wasn't surprised 

1027
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,360
to see that happen. 
There's been a few youth players

1028
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,080
that, you know, went out of 
contract at Celtic and then and 

1029
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,960
then made the move to Queens 
Park as well, so that doesn't 

1030
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,960
surprise me. 
One thing we've been told as 

1031
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:51,720
well is that if this happens, so
if you get, you know, the 

1032
00:54:51,720 --> 00:54:54,520
corporation agreement, if you 
say for example, let's use 

1033
00:54:55,240 --> 00:54:58,560
Rangers to be throwers, for 
example, you can still get 

1034
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:03,560
players on loan that say from 
Celtic, Hearts, Hibs, Aberdeen, 

1035
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:08,320
whoever you want that's able no,
that's above that age limit. 

1036
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:12,920
So it's above the the, I think 
challenge with. 

1037
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,880
The eligible for under 20 ones 
is what they say. 

1038
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,840
That's right, Yeah. 
So I think they mean Rui Gal, 

1039
00:55:19,720 --> 00:55:23,000
Rui, who's our club, one of our 
club directors. 

1040
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,000
Very good guy. 
If you need to see him, if you 

1041
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,880
know he's one of those guys you 
just want to see him and you, 

1042
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,160
it's been all of them. 
What he can do on club channels 

1043
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:38,080
and club digital channels, he 
was seeing that. 

1044
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,000
If we use Finley Pollock as an 
example, we had Finley Pollock 

1045
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,840
on loan from Hearts last year, 
he doesn't qualify. 

1046
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,080
He's a year, he's a year older 
now. 

1047
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:52,840
So if Hearts wanted to loan 
Finley Pollock back, we can get 

1048
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,200
him and we can get three players
from Rangers within the 

1049
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,680
corporation agreement. 
Yeah. 

1050
00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:03,960
So it'll be really, really 
useful for, for not only 

1051
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,880
Championship clubs, but also 
League One, League 2 and even 

1052
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,240
low only clubs to, to get those 
players. 

1053
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,720
Because I'm writing, I think I'm
writing in that League One and 

1054
00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:16,080
League 2 clubs cannot act as 
parent clubs. 

1055
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,440
They cannot enter cooperation 
agreements with, you know, 

1056
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,160
sending players out to two 
leagues below them. 

1057
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,320
It's only for Premiership and 
Championship clubs, which is 

1058
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:26,800
maybe a little bit 
disappointing. 

1059
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,640
Obviously not being able to to 
send players. 

1060
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,240
Think when you've got 2. 
Standard clubs in League One and

1061
00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:34,360
League 2. 
Yeah. 

1062
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,560
So I find that a bit surprising,
but it will be good for those 

1063
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,960
lower league clubs to to form 
stronger partnerships with, you 

1064
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:47,160
know, clubs higher up and and 
kind of develop those those 

1065
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:51,000
partnerships maybe to make that 
a, a yearly basis honestly. 

1066
00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:55,440
So yeah, we'll we'll see what 
happens with that and I think 

1067
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,280
we'll leave it there for for 
this week. 

1068
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,600
Guys, thank you very much for 
joining me. 

1069
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,640
If you've enjoyed the podcast, 
please let us know what you've 

1070
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,280
enjoyed about it if we're 
missing anything. 

1071
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,360
And we'll see you next time, 
guys.