1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,560 Welcome to the Noise. Listen to the passion in Hamden. 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:14,480 Park, it's John again. It's John again. 3 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,400 The great done by Dalfish Chancellor, one for Scotland. 4 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,119 Hello and welcome back to the Scots with the Mic Podcast. 5 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,840 I'm your host James Scott and I'm absolutely delighted to have 6 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,840 you all back along again listening. 7 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,360 What an episode we've got in store for you today. 8 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,760 Scotland are back in action on Saturday night coming and it's 9 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:49,320 the final international break of the year and the stakes could 10 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,600 not be any higher. A place at next year's World Cup 11 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,600 is well within our grasp and only two games stand in our way 12 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,200 between that, the ultimate prize featuring a tournament for the 13 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,080 first time in 20 years. It's been a long, long time out 14 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,760 in the cold for Scotland. Obviously €2.00 get to be there, 15 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,880 but the World Cup is just that next level above and there's a 16 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,360 guy who's only, I'm only 28, so I was out. 17 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,600 I think I was 11 months old when the last World Cup took place, 18 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,200 so no memories for me. For many fans who did have been 19 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,560 to previous World Cups, it's a destined memory now. 20 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,120 Another man who was even born back when the last World Cup in 21 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,640 90, just a twinkle in his dad's eye is Fen Crocker, who's 22 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,680 joining me on the podcast today. Fen how much would you like to 23 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,200 see Scotland that World Cup? Oh, I mean, it's an absolute 24 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,560 dream, as you said. I mean, yeah, like you said, I 25 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,880 wasn't even born. We don't need to dwell on that 26 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,080 too much. But yeah, I'd be there obviously 27 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:52,240 if we qualified to anything, I could be to be traveling about 28 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,240 Mexico, US, Canada, wherever it is, we'll be there and I'm sure 29 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,960 thousands will be as well. So yeah, let's get there first 30 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,360 and then we can start planning our flights and booking our 31 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,480 overpriced flights. Oh yeah, I know that's that's 32 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,080 one thing is going nothing painful it, but that'll be a 33 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,360 good headache to have when, if if if it comes round. 34 00:02:09,759 --> 00:02:14,440 So today's episode is another opposition analysis style 35 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,280 episode. We've done 2 before 1 was back 36 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,120 before the Denmark game. We had talk title on to discuss 37 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:24,120 things from Danish perspective. And then in October we had on 38 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,440 Stephen Conturu from the Hellas football podcast. 39 00:02:27,920 --> 00:02:31,240 Both were very popular episodes got great feedback on them. 40 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,640 So we're on we're running that back, we're doing it again and 41 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,920 both of our previous guests are gladly coming back on to discuss 42 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,000 the final two games. So we'll get to hear what the 43 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,440 news is from their camps, the gossip, the vibes. 44 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,680 Hey, everyone's feeling about the games, Finn, before we jump 45 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,880 into the call with them, Steve Clark released his squad on 46 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,120 Monday for the games. So we might as well just take a 47 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,800 moment to run through that and, you know, just share our 48 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,040 thoughts on that. I mean just. 49 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,000 Before we do, I mean, it's great to see you wearing the Scotland 50 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,080 top on the day of release. Yes, Sir, it's got along in line 51 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,760 this morning. At 7:00 AM. 52 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,320 Not, not quite, not that bad long sleeve version I went for. 53 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,240 It's because I went, I went to here's what happened. 54 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,240 I finished work and I was like, I'm going up to the US, live in 55 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,040 Edinburgh, right in the centre. And I went up to the GED at the 56 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,440 Saint James and I was, I'm just going up for a look. 57 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,760 I mean, and I'll take the dog with me because that means I 58 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,080 won't be able to go and try it on. 59 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,040 So. But you better believe that I 60 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,760 was in the changing rooms with the dog trying on the top and it 61 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,520 just, it just felt a little bit too good. 62 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:40,520 So yeah, me as yeah, I was, yeah, that's how I'm doing bad. 63 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,400 So I went straight. There was, there wasn't much 64 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:44,760 long sleeve versions left to be fair. 65 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,560 So I kind of swayed my think and I was like that. £85 then the 66 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:52,320 drain. 80 but then supporters club discount to go down to 68 67 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,400 so but once I get that one I didn't. 68 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,080 Even know there was a Sports Club discount. 69 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,280 Yeah, you. Get 15% off Yeah, I'm doing 70 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:59,640 that. I'm advertising for the Sports 71 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,960 Club. Yeah, Yep, 15% off Scotland full 72 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:06,440 price stuff, but I'll be back up over 80 once I get Mask mcdorman 73 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:11,360 #4 on the back, so yeah. I think it does look better with 74 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,840 the numbers on it. Yeah, I was looking at it today 75 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,240 actually, and I was almost buying it, but I resisted. 76 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,920 So. What's nice, even the long 77 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,959 sleeve version, you don't can't really see it on the short 78 00:04:20,959 --> 00:04:24,880 sleeve version, but the Saltire pattern through the bass Navy, 79 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,040 it goes right down his sleeves. It is really nice. 80 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,320 Obviously this is only an audio so people won't be able to see, 81 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:35,360 but on your your right arm there there's a just a gaping space 82 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,080 for the World Cup badge. I know someone was messaging me 83 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,120 that they're like, what's the space for? 84 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,680 I was like, that's where the patches go mate. 85 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:48,960 That's rein in a little bit. We're not there yet yeah, the 86 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,720 squad. So I think we'll go front to 87 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,000 back first striking departments looking pretty healthy. 88 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,440 Kieran Bowie drops out and we're both fans of Kieran. 89 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,320 But and comes Shankland, top goal scorer in the Premier 90 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,880 League, the Scottish Premiership, even. 91 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,040 I mean, it's. Good to see him in here. 92 00:05:06,280 --> 00:05:09,400 I thought, I think a lot of fans were going out from when he got 93 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,600 into the squad kind of just before year 2024. 94 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,240 I think it was he, you know, he got a few games before the EUR, 95 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,320 like that one against Netherlands. 96 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,840 And I think in that game he missed a big chance. 97 00:05:18,840 --> 00:05:21,040 And that's when kind of Steve Clark made-up his mind that he 98 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,120 wasn't going to play him. So it's been a long time coming 99 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,280 from I think he's it's good to have him back in the squads. 100 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,360 And obviously, like you mentioned, I think 2 names that 101 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,760 are glaringly missing from from the striking department, Karen 102 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:36,200 Bowie and Tommy Conway, Karen Barry more so, but you know, 103 00:05:36,280 --> 00:05:38,640 it's just about who's in form. Lawrence Shanklin's in form, and 104 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:43,360 he's always going to pick Jay Adams and and one of the next. 105 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,640 Yeah, she got his goal again at the weekend against Pisa, didn't 106 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,320 he? So yeah, could see him, could 107 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,960 see him in Forum at least coming into the midfield. 108 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,040 Nothing changes there. Obviously Luis Ferguson and Ryan 109 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,080 Cresty will be returning from suspension, having missed the 110 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,400 game at home against Belarus. So midfield's as strong as you 111 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,720 could hope for. You look at the defense, we've 112 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,000 got 3 left backs and three right backs. 113 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,480 What's your thinking there? Yeah, I was supposed to say that 114 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:14,760 usually I we kind of take four or five, so quite surprising. 115 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,600 Good to meet like in there. There's usually a hint of like 116 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,120 what formation he's going to go with. 117 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,680 In the past, if you like, yeah, you know the extra fill backs 118 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,160 been signaling towards A5 at the back. 119 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,960 Yeah, so I think we could see a return of Kieran Tierney maybe 120 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,840 playing at left centre back, something along those lines. 121 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,080 Or I mean, he did say, though, you did all that Kin and Hacky 122 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,600 have struggled with injury. And like in the Denmark camp, 123 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,280 remember he did use the maximum players. 124 00:06:43,280 --> 00:06:45,640 You get caught there because he said we're going to be away from 125 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,160 home in Denmark. We're not coming back to 126 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,240 Scotland. I just want to have guys out 127 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,600 there in case we do get injuries and all before the Greece game, 128 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,160 the training camps in Turkey. It might just be because he's 129 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,560 going you know what to our fullbacks are have been 130 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,360 struggling with injury over the last month. 131 00:07:00,840 --> 00:07:04,400 Maybe just let's make sure we utilize all the squad positions 132 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,560 we can. So we're not getting someone to 133 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,240 fly five hours over to Turkey to join on the training and it adds 134 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,680 an extra day to getting them into the squad sort of thing. 135 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,000 So and then. Yeah, yeah. 136 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,760 I mean you, you've taken one extra than the last camp. 137 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,840 I think it is only three keepers, not As for that he went 138 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,280 for a couple of times last few years. 139 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,480 That was some something. But no, it's it's I think it's 140 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,040 just for for cover in case that does flare up again, because 141 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,560 obviously Aaron Hickey hasn't been training much with 142 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:41,840 Brentford first team, but he's obviously at that stage where he 143 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,000 is fit enough to make the trip and to hopefully play. 144 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,720 Maybe that's not in the griefs game and he's saving them for 145 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,440 the Denmark game at home and that's why he's taking an extra 146 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:51,640 man. We'll we'll just have to wait 147 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,760 and see. But I was happy to see Aaron 148 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,560 Hickey and and guaranteeing his name is both in there. 149 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,680 No, definitely. Karen Tierney looked like a good 150 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,320 option from right back as well when he came on against Belarus. 151 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,120 Yeah. And he was definitely a lot 152 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,440 better than Anthony Austin was. Looking at the keepers. 153 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,880 Max Johnson's injured as well. Oh yeah, he's done hamstrung. 154 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,160 He could be a while, could he? Not sure I mean. 155 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,560 Hopefully that's not another Iron Hickey situation where he's 156 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,960 out for 12 months after a six week injury. 157 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,200 No, definitely not. And then the goalkeepers. 158 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,080 Angus Gunn, first choice, probably usually first team 159 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,480 first name on the team sheet for us just because he's, you know, 160 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,720 he is the keeper point at highest level damaged his knee 161 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,360 ligaments and training. So Gordon and Kelly, the two 162 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,679 usual guys, but Scott Bean comes in. 163 00:08:35,039 --> 00:08:37,799 That's quite a I mean it seems to ruffle the few folks 164 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:40,080 feathers, but I don't know who else they would expect to be 165 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,520 called then. I mean it's a bit a headache to 166 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,760 who might start. Now personally, I think it'll 167 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,920 probably be Craig Gordon just because when Clark has these 168 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,640 packing orders in his head, when one guy comes in, he very rarely 169 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,560 jumps up the pick in order that he usually slides in at the 170 00:08:53,560 --> 00:08:56,120 bottom. So I don't think, I mean Scott 171 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,360 Bean's obviously been in good form for Folk, but I don't think 172 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,640 we'll see him. I think it will be Craig despite 173 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,320 his lucky game time, which is pretty worrying. 174 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,960 Yeah, I mean, Scott Bean's really the only starting keeper 175 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,520 at the moment. Got the squad. 176 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:14,400 Obviously it was really bad to see Angus got not in squad, but 177 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,640 I think it will be great when it starts. 178 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,440 Obviously he's got the experience of starting for 179 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,320 Scotland for so many times, so many caps. 180 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:24,960 Yeah. And I think he can be called 181 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,280 upon in these in these big moments like he has shown in the 182 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,680 past, and hopefully he can produce some some more big 183 00:09:30,680 --> 00:09:32,320 performances. And you know what? 184 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,840 Angus gone when he came in to the September camp. 185 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,600 I think people maybe forget he wasn't playing much and he came 186 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,760 and he had a great camp. You know, he played very well 187 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,560 for US against Denmark away and then Belous away. 188 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,840 So and there's no reason Kate couldn't come in and play well. 189 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,200 But he is a different situation from his farm longer. 190 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,320 He's gone without the sort of regular game time. 191 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,960 So let's just wait and see what comes from that. 192 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,560 I'm sure Paul, maybe we might touch and again throughout the 193 00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:02,360 episodes. But yes, we've got 2 guests 194 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,920 waiting in the wings and now, so we're just going to drop into 195 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,520 the call with them now. Gentlemen, welcome to the 196 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,560 podcast. Thanks for coming back you on. 197 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,720 I'll just get you both to introduce yourself once again. 198 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:14,920 I know we've maybe got some repeat listeners, but there 199 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,640 might be some new people that have joined us for this one. 200 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,840 So just introduce yourselves and tell us what you're all about. 201 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,600 Yeah. So let me start. 202 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,880 My name is Togathy Late. I'm Danish football writer. 203 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:31,480 It is in chief at Windfall Park dot DK and yeah, covering 204 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,880 everything Danish football. I assume everybody who's 205 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,760 listening to this podcast Remember Me, But yeah, always 206 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,320 good with another introduction, right? 207 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,400 Yeah, no, definitely. And Steven, obviously you're 208 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,200 from the Health Football Podcast. 209 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,120 Yes, certainly. I'm, I'm Stephen Contura from 210 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,440 the LS Football Podcast. We host a weekly podcast every, 211 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,440 well, every week. That's why it's a weekly 212 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,320 podcast, I guess, talking about everything Greek football from 213 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,840 the Super League, Greek national team, Greek, Greek clubs in 214 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,160 Europe, Greek players playing abroad. 215 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,000 And yeah, we, we, I write regularly for them as well about 216 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,080 Olympiagos team. I support the Greek national 217 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,600 team. Any other things that interest 218 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,720 me? So I mean, obviously talk, 219 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,640 you're a you're a Bromby fan, so we'll talk to you for one quick 220 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,560 second. But one thing you've got Lewis 221 00:11:20,560 --> 00:11:23,960 Banks on your books right now. Is he someone you think Scotland 222 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,160 could be corner in the near future? 223 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,280 Well, I mean you're the Scotland experts, but I can say from 224 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,680 having watched him well these couple of months, he joined 225 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,840 Boundary in August that he is really, really good. 226 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:42,480 He got bit of mixed reviews when we signed him in Coventry. 227 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,760 A lot of the experts I spoke with said he was a little bit 228 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,000 questionable in his defensive skills, but that it was very 229 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,760 good offensively, very good passing. 230 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,680 But from what I have seen in the in these months, I mean, he is 231 00:11:54,680 --> 00:11:57,480 excellent, almost everything really good technical player, 232 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,800 really good on the ball, very good in the build up play. 233 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,920 But also his defensive work has been has been outstanding. 234 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,240 I mean, I understand that Danish football is the Super League is 235 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,840 not Championship or Premier League where CA where he's 236 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,560 played before. But I think he he he has a 237 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:17,120 really big future. And and yeah, I could, I mean, I 238 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:21,320 remember Scott McKenna who played in Copenhagen and in my 239 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,920 mind he wasn't anything special, at least when he was in Denmark. 240 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,400 And I think Binks is, is twice the player that he was at least 241 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,920 when he was at Copenhagen. So yeah, I I would love to see 242 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,360 him play for Scotland, I'd love to see him play national team 243 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,480 football. I think it's fair to say that it 244 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:38,800 probably won't happen for England. 245 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:43,240 So yeah, I think he can definitely impact the impact the 246 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,000 Scottish team and he is a really good player and he's still 247 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,760 young, so he can go far I think. Yeah, well, good to hear. 248 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,880 The center back isn't exactly somewhere per. 249 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,280 It's not as strong as a midfield, should I say. 250 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,440 I think a midfield is probably the strongest area that pitch 251 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,720 for us. So I mean, but we'll get into 252 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,360 the podcast now talking about the two games coming up. 253 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,240 But I'm a little bit reflection first because I mean, if the 254 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,960 customer mined back to December last year when the draw was 255 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,480 made, we knew we'd potentially between playing Denmark in the 256 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,920 final game, we obviously knew Geese would definitely be in our 257 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,120 group. I'll come you first talk when 258 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,920 the potential fest fixtures were released and we knew this was 259 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,680 going to be the game to close the group. 260 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,680 Are you surprised by the level of significance it's gotten? 261 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,320 You know how it's on, it could potentially be a cup final. 262 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,520 I was kind of hoping that the Greek, Greece would take points 263 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,360 from you, so it was a little bit more settled before this last 264 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,760 match, I mean. It could be, we never know. 265 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,880 Of course, yeah, yeah, we of course we were recording this 266 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,680 way before any of the matches. But no, I think it was it was a 267 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,960 bit, it was it, it was predictable. 268 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,720 I also said in the first episode that in my mind, Scotland was 269 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,920 was the second best team in the group And, and I think that that 270 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,040 has been proven to be true. So yeah, really, really 271 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,200 interesting with this last match. 272 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,040 It's a shame that it's been played in, in Glasgow and not in 273 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,240 Copenhagen because I think that does give Scotland the upper end 274 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:15,520 and, and maybe slight favouritism as well going into 275 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,960 this match. But yeah, if, if Greece, if 276 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,120 Greece takes some points for you, it would look good for 277 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,800 Denmark. And of course, our two big 278 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,200 victories against Belarus means that unless something crazy 279 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,880 happens in your match that a draw will be enough for us, 280 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,840 which of course is that's a big advantage. 281 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,800 So I'm still pretty confident and, and, and I think we can be 282 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,920 very happy with, with this whole qualification as a whole. 283 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,760 But yeah, a lot, a lot rise in this last match in in Glasgow 284 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,280 for sure. Yeah. 285 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,200 I mean, you just touched on the fans there. 286 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,520 How big a influence do you think the the crowd at hand in could? 287 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,920 Because obviously you've seen it before and the last World Cup 288 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,840 qualification campaign, how the crowd kind of roared us on. 289 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,200 Obviously we didn't qualify directly, but we got that 290 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,920 playoff spot. That match was obviously 291 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,720 important for us securing the home playoff. 292 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,440 So you've obviously seen it before. 293 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,080 How big a impact you think they could have? 294 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,520 I think it could be huge. I mean I've been to Hampton Park 295 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,440 myself once. That was for a club match, of 296 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,800 course, but I mean, I saw that being full and and I can only 297 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,280 imagine if instead of being half, half Celtic ranges, if 298 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:22,480 it's 100% or 95% Scottish people supporting the team, that that 299 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,920 can be very, very loud stadium. And that's something I can only 300 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,920 imagine really pushes the team forward. 301 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,040 So yeah, I think that would be that would be a huge factor. 302 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,560 Of course, our players have also tried to play in Champions 303 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,400 League at big stadiums against fierce crowds and everything. 304 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,880 But yeah, I would definitely have preferred that match to be 305 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,120 at home. And, and I think Scottish fans, 306 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,160 national team fans are some of the best in Europe. 307 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,920 So yeah, it's it's definitely not the the the most fun place 308 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,120 to play such an important match. Yeah, and just out of interest, 309 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:53,880 what club game was that? Did you say the Celtic? 310 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,120 Rangers. Yeah, it was the cup final, 311 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,480 League Cup final in December last last year. 312 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,000 Celtic, Rangers, Celtic won in down to shoot out, if I'm going 313 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,320 correctly, yeah. Yeah, that's certainly would 314 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,160 have been an atmosphere of that one, Stephen. 315 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,560 I mean, a slightly different conversation we're having. 316 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,800 If you just the way the group's gone for Greece, not going to 317 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,160 plan at all. I mean, how hard is it for you 318 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,840 to believe or even like how hard does it be to take that, this 319 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,960 game against us in Athens from your perspective as a dead 320 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,600 rubber? Because I mean, I didn't for me, 321 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,360 again, look at the facts just going forward from the start of 322 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,640 the group. That match in Athens looked like 323 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,920 it was. I thought it'd be almost like a 324 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,000 knockout tie. Yes. 325 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,720 And it's like you said, it's a complete dead rubber now. 326 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:46,240 I mean for this international break, this is just another 327 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,640 transition period for Greece. We've brought a couple of 328 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,440 younger players to be called up to the national team, not as 329 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:57,920 many as I think people expected, but Nekdarius Triantis is in 330 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,720 from midfield. He's playing in MLS right now. 331 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,280 Babis Gustulasi recently joined Brighton from Olibiagos, our 332 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,319 record sale from an Olibiagos perspective. 333 00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:08,640 He scored against Manchester United a couple of weeks ago. 334 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,480 So it's going to be interesting to see what Ivan Jovanovic 335 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,520 tries. Like I said, I, I, I don't, 336 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,920 we're not, I don't. I mean, we're never going to 337 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,000 play an opponent and not try to win, but because this game 338 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,319 essentially means nothing other than, you know, maybe somehow 339 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,880 the slight, slight possibility that Belarus might match us for 340 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,440 points. You never know, Maybe you should 341 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,360 have got someone from Belarus on this podcast, you know, the only 342 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,320 three points behind us. But yeah, I, I think, I think 343 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:36,480 that's what we have to try and do now. 344 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,920 We have they, they have to show that the preparation now for the 345 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,000 Nations League, League A and for EUR 2028 is the priority. 346 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,000 And and so Jovanovic is going to be looking at that, I think over 347 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,720 these next two games, you know, and it's a good opportunity in 348 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,040 that regard, I guess, because we're playing against Scotland, 349 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,960 who in the still in the recent past we have beaten. 350 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,160 But, you know, it's it's an opportunity for some of these 351 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,120 players to try again and show what they're really made of, 352 00:18:03,120 --> 00:18:05,640 even if it doesn't mean qualifying for the World Cup. 353 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,000 And then there's Belarus as well, which maybe we'll give 354 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,240 them a bit of an ego booster smash if, if, if they do manage 355 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,520 to do that again, like they did in the first game of the of the 356 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,320 qualifiers. It's just hard to, like you 357 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,320 said, it's it's hard to really pinpoint this game against 358 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,800 Scotland because we, we expect to do at least if we were third 359 00:18:25,360 --> 00:18:28,000 going into this game, we expect to still be in this 360 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,200 mathematically. And we just capitulated so badly 361 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,440 in the last three games. You know, the, the mental 362 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,280 fragility of this team was, was very evident in all three of 363 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,400 those games that we that we played, you know, both games 364 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,640 against Denmark and against you guys at Hampden Park. 365 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,920 It was just, yeah, hugely disappointing. 366 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,560 And just considering the talented team we have, there's 367 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,520 still obviously loads of hope. There's still loads of time. 368 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,920 But this was a big blow. And we expected, I don't, there 369 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,840 wasn't an expectation to qualify. 370 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,400 There was a hope, but there was at least an expectation that we 371 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:00,920 would compete for far longer than we did. 372 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,160 And to go out like this in a rather a whimper to be, if I'm 373 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,760 being quite honest is is very disappointing. 374 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:12,320 Yeah, because I mean, I mean, although talk is he's said 375 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,600 looking in the group, you felt Scotland with a team to watch 376 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,200 and not as much Greece. But for me and Fen and Scotland 377 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,160 fans and I'm sure many other Scotland fans, the talk was very 378 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,920 much about Geese. It was you know, we've been 379 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:28,080 given a a pretty hard challenge at you guys and pot being the 380 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,560 pot to team, probably a team we didn't want to be up against 381 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,400 Kevin how the playoff had gone in March. 382 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,640 And you know, I think I'd say I mean final pro likely reminisce. 383 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,040 I'm I'm just surprised we're here at this point. 384 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,880 But you know, like I said, we could spin out effectively. 385 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,320 Or they are. Well, to be fair, to take our, 386 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,400 our record against Denmark is pretty bad, so maybe that's 387 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,640 where he was coming from. But yeah, I, I expected us to 388 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,240 compete with you guys for a second and maybe push Denmark. 389 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,200 You know, Denmark on paper were the weakest team that we could 390 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,920 have got in Part 1 and well, that's obviously not. 391 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,520 It's really reflective of Denmark's quality because you 392 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,080 knew Denmark would be difficult. We thought there was an 393 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:12,040 opportunity, but we, this team, weren't ready at this point in 394 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,400 time and they might be ready later down the line, we hope. 395 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,000 Yeah, you mentioned there obviously it's kind of a 396 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,800 transition period still. How do you view these games? 397 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,240 Obviously you said there it's about building towards Europe, 398 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,920 2028 and the Nation's League. How do you think the players 399 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,160 will will be viewing this game as well? 400 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,840 Because obviously you can see sometimes when there's a dead 401 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,840 robber game, you know, players are more relaxed, there's less 402 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,680 pressure and they play better. And on the flip side of that, 403 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,200 sometimes they don't care as much, obviously, and you can 404 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,320 play really badly. And obviously with this game 405 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:47,360 being such of such magnitude to Scotland and, and the World Cup 406 00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:50,480 hopes, it's really intriguing for me. 407 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,400 And obviously a lot of Scotland has as well how Greece will 408 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,120 approach this game, whether they will give minutes to to to the 409 00:20:57,120 --> 00:20:59,160 younger guys to kind of give them that experience going 410 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,320 forward, or if they will, you know, maybe look for revenge and 411 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,120 and try and at least go out with a with with a good note on this, 412 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:09,040 on this qualification campaign. That's what we want to see. 413 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,640 At the end of the day, it's not a, you know, everyone's going to 414 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:16,240 be bittersweet even if we do somehow win at the at the Athens 415 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,000 Olympics. Oh, no, Gyorikos Kare Skagi 416 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,800 Stadium. But it it, you know, at the end 417 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,040 of the day, that's what they have to show. 418 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,240 They have to show some some mental fortitude. 419 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,480 They have to show improvement. Yes, the pressure's off for 420 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,080 qualifying, but this is like, like I said, this is now 421 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,400 preparation for the EUR, the Nations League too, because it's 422 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,680 going to be incredibly difficult to even stay in the Nations 423 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,480 League. But if they want to show 424 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,760 themselves to and what they're capable of, that's what they 425 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,840 have to do. There are a couple of absentees 426 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,080 as well, Gonsanto, Unos, Mavro Banos is missing. 427 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,000 So it'll be an interesting one to see whether Bunny Otis, Red 428 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,760 Sauce starts instead or just double checking the squad now 429 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:56,720 actually, who is it? Janis Mihalidis from Bark might 430 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,800 get the opportunity as well. And obviously Baka and Dasos 431 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,880 Bakasetas is out as well. He has been injured. 432 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,640 So maybe that's partially why he's not only just recently come 433 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,440 back. So there's a couple of 434 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,960 interesting names missing from that team that are a bit more 435 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,520 experienced. So it's an opportunity for 436 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,320 younger players, slash players with less caps to get that 437 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,040 opportunity to play. So we'll have to see it. 438 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,000 Like I said, it's, it's all about preparation for us now and 439 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,280 pressures off. But in the sense of long term, 440 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,800 I, I want to see, I want to see a much more improved performance 441 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,320 than we did in October. Yeah. 442 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:34,440 I mean you, you mentioned you, you support Olympiacos, but the 443 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,800 Greek team's already kind of got that revenge over the Scottish 444 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,200 team. Unfortunately, I was in Athens 445 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,720 for the Ike Athens game versus Aberdeen where we we were 446 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,960 thrashed 6 nil. So that that was great to see. 447 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,600 It was not a good name for Scottish footballer at all. 448 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,440 Yeah, I mean, we'll we'll touch more on the squads from each 449 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,560 year and a wee second, but just again look back to the games of 450 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,000 past us because we got the previews from you both, but we 451 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:06,120 didn't get the reaction that 31V for Scotland and Hamden. 452 00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:09,920 Steven, I remember Mesh, you know, we messaging you a wee bit 453 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,600 about that. But I mean, how did how did you 454 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,200 view that defeat? I mean, you talked about 455 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,360 complete compatulation of the team. 456 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,800 What's the mood been like in the Greek camp in the aftermath of 457 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,080 that? Oh, hugely disappointing. 458 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,000 I mean the the way we went in front after playing really well 459 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,680 for the first hour, we were excellent. 460 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,640 In fact, you know, we should have scored very early on in 461 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:36,680 that game against Scotland and it was nice to see Gustad to see 462 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,720 Mikas get his first goal, I think professional goal ever, 463 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,960 which is weird to say. I know he's a left back, but I 464 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,320 would have expected him to scored elsewhere in in 465 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,400 professional football. But he he dedicated that goal to 466 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,960 the George Bolduc who passed away last year, which was nice. 467 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,440 But then unfortunately a few minutes later, that's when 468 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,000 Scotland took the opportunity and equalised from kind of us 469 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,400 maybe relaxing a bit after we'd taken the lead and it just 470 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,200 snowballed from there. We didn't deal with your crosses 471 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,480 well enough in the box. We were pretty tragic. 472 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:09,800 And then Constantinos Solagis had a bit of a poor evening in 473 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:10,960 goal. It's been a bit more 474 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,440 inconsistent this season, unfortunately. 475 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,200 And you know, as as an Olympiagos fan, I, I've seen a 476 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,960 lot of fans who aren't supporters of Olympiagos heavily 477 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,880 criticize him for his performances with Greece and 478 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,040 with Olympiagos. And he was dropped for the next 479 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,840 game against Denmark. But I, I, you know, he's not the 480 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,040 main reason why we lost that game. 481 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,440 The entire team kind of just mentally fell apart in a, in an 482 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:37,040 important fixture that we, I, my opinion, needed to get at least 483 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,520 a draw, preferably win because we were competing, we were 484 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,040 competing with, we were competing with you for 2nd 485 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,520 place. So yeah, it, it, it dropped the 486 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:45,680 mood. And then it meant we had to go 487 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,400 and absolutely get a win in Copenhagen. 488 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,760 And I think, I know, if I recall, I don't think that 489 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:52,920 happened. You know, I think, I think we 490 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,840 might have lost that game quite, quite badly. 491 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,440 Yeah, I think that most people in Hamden are keeping a very 492 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,680 close eye on that game as much as well. 493 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,520 I was going to say, as much as they were keeping an eye on the 494 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,200 game, there was a cover in front of them. 495 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,880 But to be honest, it wasn't much a performance from Scotland in 496 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,240 that game either. Like you said, you guys 497 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,840 dominated most of that game. It just seemed to be over the 498 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,520 course was two games. Scotland played absolutely 499 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,520 fantastically for 30 minutes and it was a 30 minutes where we got 500 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,080 the three goals against you. But a month before that our 501 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,400 performances were much better talk. 502 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,520 We came to Copenhagen on match day one. 503 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,160 You said you were expecting a good performance from Scotland. 504 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,840 Did you? Did you foresee Copenhagen draw 505 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,160 in the far Copenhagen, Denmark draw in the first game at home 506 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,880 like that? No, that was very, very 507 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,760 disappointing, I say. I think also it was well, I 508 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,880 mean, obviously since with the results, but the worst game 509 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,120 Denmark has played this qualification, I think, I think 510 00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:50,720 squabbling managed to make it very difficult for us. 511 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:55,880 Very good defensively, managed to do all the small things that 512 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,840 makes a game very difficult. But it was also a game where 513 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,600 they might look super, super uninspiring, like they weren't 514 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,840 ready at all for this tournament. 515 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,760 Of course, the whole Christian Eriksen not having a club, not 516 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,040 being called up took some attention in the in the build up 517 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,000 to that match. But we have gotten a lot better 518 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,760 since then. Played really well in Greece 519 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,280 also, And I'm sure you'll agree with me here, Stephen, that it 520 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,720 was a little bit lucky. There were some very, very 521 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,680 unnecessary goals given away by the the Greek defence. 522 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:32,280 And, and I think I mean, after that it was two games against 523 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,840 Belarus. So I still feel like we haven't 524 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:39,840 really been tested that much, but yeah, it's it's been looking 525 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,320 much better. So I would say I wouldn't base 526 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,120 too much on what happened in the first match because we are 527 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:46,720 definitely in a better state right now. 528 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,760 Ericsson is back. He's playing a better football 529 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,440 in Walsburg as well. So yeah, things are looking 530 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,080 better. But yeah, I would agree with 531 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,040 you, Scotland, definitely. They look good in that first 532 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,120 match. And I was pretty worried after 533 00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:04,440 that one that this group was not going to be, I don't want to say 534 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,240 easy, but that it was going to be much harder than than I 535 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,520 expected it to be at least. Because, yeah, as as I mean, you 536 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,360 also all know that Denmark, I mean, for all the Part 1 team, 537 00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:19,080 Denmark is of course is obviously the worst ones. 538 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,040 And, and we are pretty, we are very, very fortunate. 539 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,240 But having this great seeding and we want to do everything we 540 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,960 can to keep to keep it because once you go into Part 1, it's, 541 00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:33,160 it's, it's insane how much easier qualifying is once you 542 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,280 don't have to get past Spain or France or Belgium, every 543 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,800 qualification. And it's really, that's also why 544 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,840 we take Nations League and all of these other things so 545 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,040 seriously because it is just, it's almost a cheap code being 546 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,880 in in Part 1. And it's definitely something. 547 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,480 It's even harder. It's even harder when you're in 548 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,880 pot free talk. Can't imagine. 549 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,480 Yeah, I've been there too, don't worry. 550 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,160 Yeah, we were extremely close to it wasn't qualification, but 551 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,000 obviously Euro qualification. We were so close to getting that 552 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,280 pot one spot for the actual tournament when we were in 553 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,800 Spain's group, obviously beat them at home. 554 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,160 We're leading away and had a goal taken off for absolutely 555 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,480 nothing, if you've not seen that as. 556 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,760 Very dubious VR decisions. I was I was front. 557 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,000 I was in the front row at the the stadium, Estadio de Cartusia 558 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,160 and and Savelle. And I've I've never seen 559 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,640 celebrations like that then turn into such Disney. 560 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,920 But God, yeah, why do we keep we keep bringing that up and it's 561 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,840 such a horrible memory. Yeah, I know it was it sneaks 562 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:43,480 in, but obviously not better. I mean, OK, well, I mean, I 563 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,560 guess I'll ask you this, Stephen, because I before we 564 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,160 talk about we'll get into the squad in a second, but I just 565 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,960 want to ask him, what do you think is is it is the geek in 566 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,280 terms of the geek camp? Is it deflated or is there an 567 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,200 element of he's been a bit vengeful? 568 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:04,040 Because I I wouldn't feel, I wouldn't be surprised if he felt 569 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,240 hard done by like you said, like annoyed the how the game at 570 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,840 Hamden played out. Do you? 571 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,960 Would you like to get revenge and stop us topping the grip and 572 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,560 playing your part in that? That's not necessarily been the 573 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,760 rhetoric from from the media. And I mean, the fans are 574 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,720 obviously pissed off, but I think the fans are kind of, I, I 575 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,320 mean, I'm sure this is normal from a lot of kind of respective 576 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,720 club teams, national team fans, but they all love to point at 577 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,880 certain players, scapegoat them this, that and the other. 578 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,480 So it's the blame is very much gone on the players and, and a 579 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,080 bit on Ivan Jovanovic as well. Some people have even called for 580 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,600 him to be sacked. But he was given the full 581 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,320 support of the of the Greek cafe. 582 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:45,160 And you know, he, he, his contract runs until I believe 583 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,080 that after the Euro 2028 qualifiers. 584 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,840 So, you know, he's him for the long haul. 585 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,560 And I I personally believe that he should at least kind of stay 586 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,560 until the Nations League campaign is done and dusted 587 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,320 because if I know it's going to be difficult. 588 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,880 But if if he does perform the way he has done and the Greece 589 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,320 show no fight and there is mental fragility, I wouldn't be 590 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,680 surprised if he is sacked. If we get relegated to Nation 591 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,200 League B, if we go down fighting, then I think that he 592 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,280 might be kept on. But we'll have to see. 593 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,640 Yeah, there's. Definitely a way to get beat. 594 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,920 Yes, absolutely. Especially like I said, it's 595 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,640 going to be incredibly difficult the the nation league game, even 596 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,400 the, you know, part three teams that are above us because we're 597 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,800 in part 4. It's going to be hugely tough to 598 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,640 stay in that in the in the First Division. 599 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,080 But in terms of the Greek players themselves that I'm sure 600 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,600 they'll have some determination. They'll want to prove what of 601 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,560 what, like I said, prove what they're capable of because 602 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,720 that's not the Greece team we've come to know the last year and 603 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:44,040 Ivanovich before the qualifiers began, you know, we've had, I 604 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,200 know we lost to England at home in at the Olympic Stadium and we 605 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,740 lost to Scotland in the first leg of the Nations League play 606 00:30:49,740 --> 00:30:52,280 offs. But that didn't feel the same 607 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,000 way of how and how we were defeated compared to these 608 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,600 qualifiers. And so that they need to stamp 609 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,160 that out as soon as possible because if that continues, it's 610 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,440 just going to spiral and get worse and worse and worse. 611 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,680 And, and Turk made a good point, like we Greece, take the Nations 612 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,880 League hugely seriously. I mean, we're, we're actually 613 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,920 the second, we have the second best record of any team in the 614 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,880 Nations League behind Portugal. That's how well we how much 615 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,560 we've taken it seriously because we've gone all the way from 616 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,520 Nations League C all the way up to Nations League A and our so 617 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,680 our record is really, really good ever since the Nations 618 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,960 League came about. Yeah, we, we, we've done the 619 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,680 same thing. We were started in, we started 620 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,800 in League C as well. We went all the way up to League 621 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,800 A and then unfortunately, as you'd know very well, obviously 622 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,840 got relegated last time to to League B. 623 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,880 So good luck with staying in. We actually got quite fortunate, 624 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,920 I think with with our part with our group. 625 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,160 Obviously had some tough teams like Portugal and Croatia, but 626 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,880 to get Poland in there was a blessing that we didn't 627 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,360 capitalize on. How was the kind of feel around 628 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,880 the camp going into these qualifiers? 629 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,880 Because I think with a lot of fans, especially from Scotland 630 00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,200 side side of things, at least there was kind of this 631 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,520 assumption that it would be just another one of those campaigns 632 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:08,120 where we don't make it because our form going into this was 633 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,000 abysmal. Obviously I'd lost to Iceland 634 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,400 and a friendly, our form was really not good. 635 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,840 So there was kind of a lot of calls actually to to Sak Steve 636 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,760 Clark at the time around the, the qualifiers starting. 637 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,440 And on the flip side of things, obviously from at least my side 638 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,240 of view and James's view as well as I've heard when, when that 639 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,000 group came out, I actually thought Greece was maybe the 640 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,680 strongest team. Obviously we know Denmark's 641 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,920 qualy qualifying for I don't even know how many tournaments 642 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,640 in a row now. But obviously with that, with 643 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,680 that Greece team looking so good at Hampton, when we were all 644 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,360 there, we we kind of thought it might be might be Greece's time. 645 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,520 We hope so too. And we, we also hope that after 646 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,880 miss just missing out on EUR 2024 in the playoff final, we 647 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,240 hope that that would kind of give the more experienced 648 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,560 players that sort of learning curve where they could take that 649 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,120 and help the younger players progress further. 650 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,600 There wasn't an, like I said, there wasn't an expectation, but 651 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,640 there was hope with the way in which we we'd been playing in 652 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,080 the Nations League, the way in which we'd been playing in our 653 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,600 friendlies as well, and the team that we've assembled where we 654 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,320 felt like we finally have depth in areas and just such high 655 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:23,800 quality, such high potential. But you know, this is, this is 656 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,040 reflective of Greece even before we've we've had such a talented 657 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,280 squad in the last 12 years. That's six tournaments in a row 658 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,120 now we've missed. That's really damning. 659 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:38,680 If we miss a well, even if we, yeah, if we miss EUR 2028, that 660 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,240 will equal and beat our longest record of not qualifying for a 661 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,280 major tournament between because we when we first qualified for a 662 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,800 major tournament in 1980, there was a long gap between the next 663 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,560 one in 1994 when we qualified for the World Cup. 664 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,360 That if we don't qualify for the EUR now that will beat the 665 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:01,560 record if I'm not mistaken. So we this is now more like now 666 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,440 or never for this for this Grease team. 667 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,560 Well, we know everything. We can talk to you at length 668 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,560 about being out in the cold for a while. 669 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,440 Because I first got on that was what, 20 years? 670 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:16,120 I'm forgetting numbers 19. 88 to 2020 or 2021 if you can't go 671 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,639 with as well. Well, yeah, so yeah, no, but we 672 00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:20,199 know, we know the feeling. It's not a good one. 673 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,880 Coming onto the squads. We'll go into game first. 674 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,320 We'll start with Greece. You mentioned potential injuries 675 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,320 back Asetus avenger. They've also got down here 676 00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:36,000 marvel panel big messes you feel or again in a game. 677 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,600 You may be looking to change things up. 678 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,400 Maybe not so much because I can see you've also got a man that 679 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:46,480 mania have high B will be familiar with as nectar 680 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,080 Triantis. Yes, that is not right. 681 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,639 Yeah. He's in for the first time, so I 682 00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:55,639 mean, talk us through it. What's your thoughts on overall 683 00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:59,680 selection? Well, like I said, I I'm hopeful 684 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,400 that Jovanovic gives these players a go. 685 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,280 Diane, this is a really intriguing midfielder and he's 686 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,560 doing really, really well in MLS. 687 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,520 He's not really a more of an attacking player, but he's 688 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:13,400 scoring some ridiculous goals when we when we've seen it on 689 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,160 social media and Bobby scores Stoolas in. 690 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,440 I mean, he's such a talented player. 691 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,000 Of course, Stoolas, I mean, the, the money that Brighton spent on 692 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,200 him to take him to, to out of Olipiagos. 693 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,240 I we didn't expect such a big fee. 694 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,600 And apparently we even turned down a €40 million offer for 695 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,400 other talented midfielder Christos Mouzaki. 696 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,640 This who's in the Greece squad as well. 697 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,840 So thank goodness he didn't tell both of them in the same window. 698 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,360 That would have been devastated. But yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm excited 699 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,840 to see both of them play. Hopefully they do get 700 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,840 opportunities because like I said, this is the perfect time 701 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:50,440 to do so considering pressures off in terms of qualifying Mavra 702 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,040 Banos from being missed, I think under normal circumstances would 703 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,680 be a shame. But his club form has started to 704 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,880 leak into his national team form, which hadn't happened 705 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,160 beforehand. So even though he hasn't been 706 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,840 that great at West Ham, he was always able to consistently find 707 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,520 his form for Greece. And so at that point I wasn't 708 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,200 really, it didn't really matter to me how badly he played at 709 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,560 West Ham, but now it really does. 710 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,040 And for Baca Sethas, I mean, he's always been a A when he's 711 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,960 ever since he was made captain, he's been a good leader off the 712 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,880 pitch. He hasn't really done anything I 713 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,560 think that badly wrong. But like I said, from what I 714 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,000 recall, I think he's out injured or he's come back, but he's not 715 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,960 quite fully fit yet. So that's why he's not been 716 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,760 included. But Mavra Banos wasn't injured. 717 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,160 So that is an interesting one. That's the more intriguing one 718 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,680 to not have be called up because as far as I'm aware he's fit and 719 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,800 so maybe something's happened. I don't know, don't want to 720 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,120 speculate. But yeah, if if he misses these 721 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,600 fixtures, it's not necessarily the end of the world. 722 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,320 Fair enough. I mean, I mean, when you talk 723 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,840 about experiment and changing things up a bit, as a Scotland 724 00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,160 fan, I think I'd far prefer to be up against the Greek side 725 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,920 that's, you know, trying to work things out a bit and maybe not 726 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,960 sticking with a trade and tested method that's won your games 727 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,600 with four Finn. I don't know if you've got 728 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,480 something you're wanting to come in on about that. 729 00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:17,000 No, yeah, from my point of view, I hope that they're testing a 730 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,920 completely new squad. I hope they start a squad of 15 731 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,160 year olds, obviously get get at least a point. 732 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,600 Obviously it'd be ideal to win out in Greece, but I think a 733 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,560 point is is the bare minimum, hopefully to at least get that 734 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,840 back to Hamden with the possibility of qualification 735 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,840 with a win. And March after that we come 736 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,960 back to Hamden, let you say Denmark. 737 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,800 Talk about changes in your squad as well. 738 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,960 I'm going to butcher the pronunciation here. 739 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:54,000 The left back is your human male, male, male. 740 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,400 Oh, I was close. I was close. 741 00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:01,960 Dolberg School, Olsen, all three out injured guys have started 742 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,560 for you as well. Big messes. 743 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,080 Mostly I would say melee is the big miss. 744 00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:10,960 He is a really, really good defender. 745 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,040 Can play both fullbacks actually he's he's right legged so better 746 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,160 on the right side, but he's been playing a lot on on the left 747 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,080 side. Often preferred over Doggo as 748 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,600 well because he's simply better at defending than Doggo is. 749 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,320 When we are playing with only four at the back, we need a full 750 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,200 back that can defend, where Doggo can do a lot of things, 751 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,360 but defending is not really one of them. 752 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:39,040 So he is a, he's a big myth. Of course, not having him in. 753 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,520 That has been the big story of the Danish team is that we have 754 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:48,480 called out Nicholas Naze from Stuttgart, which is it's, it's 755 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,120 one that has people surprised, very, very surprised because 756 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,520 he's a natural, natural midfielder, central midfielder. 757 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,480 But apparently he has been playing a little bit on the left 758 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,720 back so they called him up, thought he was the best choice 759 00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:06,120 for left back. He's played 35 matches in the 760 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,840 last Four Seasons for Stuttgart because he's just been injured 761 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,400 all the time. I think he played eight matches 762 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,880 something last season. Nobody really knows him in 763 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,800 Denmark. It's he's 25 years old, almost 764 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,800 26. He's not a big talent anymore. 765 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,000 I mean, he was good when he was young, but it's it's very, very 766 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,640 surprising. Even his younger brother is has 767 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,760 won two consecutive young playoff the month awards in the 768 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,720 Danish league. So he's not even the best Nazi 769 00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:35,680 brother of of them. So it's it's it's nobody had 770 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,160 predicted he would be on the on the national team this time. 771 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,320 It's it's it's a big surprise. I don't think he will start 772 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,360 though. I think they probably end up 773 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,320 playing either last month Christmas or Patrick Tolko on 774 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,560 the left. But if we get an injury, if 775 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,160 we're unlucky, he will be thrown for the he'll be thrown in and 776 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,680 and I think that could get ugly. I I really don't see him having 777 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,960 the level or the fitness to be playing in such a such an 778 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,800 important match now. Yeah, you also mentioned goals 779 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,760 and and and Dolpur. Both of them are more little bit 780 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,360 more depth players. Dolpur has started some matches 781 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,840 disqualification but. With the with the form Rasmus 782 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,680 Hoyland is in for Napoli this season. 783 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:18,400 Of course, Dalbez nowhere near the optimal lineup, but we are 784 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,480 bit weak if Hoyland doesn't start because William Mosula 785 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,760 from Newcastle is also doubtful he might not make the squad. 786 00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:29,040 He was out this Champions League week for Newcastle against 787 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,400 Bilbeo and it's not certain that you'll be ready for the national 788 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,280 team. So if he is also doubtful and 789 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,200 and by the way, he hasn't played much for Newcastle, obviously he 790 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,800 still has hasn't made his debut for the national team either. 791 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,400 So behind Hoyeland we are very weak. 792 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,240 We have Jonas Wynn from Mossberg, but he's not a true #9 793 00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:49,640 he's more as a deep line striker. 794 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,600 So I would say that our depth is, is weakened. 795 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,120 Our starting line up is it's fine apart from the left back, 796 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,160 maybe a bit weak, but our depth is definitely not what what we 797 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,000 had hoped for. Yeah, I remember Mailer 798 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,160 obviously in the €2020.00 if I'm not mistaken being absolutely 799 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,840 incredible, one of the best boys in tournament. 800 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,280 Do you think obviously you mentioned that the depth is the 801 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,920 the main thing that you're worried more about, but do you 802 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:19,160 think that there is any weaknesses that you you're maybe 803 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,280 you think there there is that Scotland can exploit? 804 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,840 Or on the flip side, is there any players in particular in the 805 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,080 Scotland squad that you are maybe thinking? 806 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,080 Focus on them, double team them, make sure he doesn't get the 807 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,600 ball. I would say that one issue we've 808 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,440 had is that most of our defenders have been on the 809 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,880 national team for quite a long time, but we've been forced to 810 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,600 switch out a lot, do a lot of substitution from match to match 811 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,400 due to injuries. And Les Christensen has been 812 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,960 injured most of this season for Barcelona for example. 813 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,880 So there are some question marks about around some of the better 814 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,760 players and their match fitness. They haven't played as much as 815 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:01,600 we would want them to and and even in this qualification, they 816 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,880 haven't played together as much as we want them to because 817 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,920 especially defensively, you want your centre back to play the 818 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,200 same two guys all the time. So they get really, really close 819 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,000 to each other. But we haven't really gotten 820 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,040 that. We've had to switch around on 821 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,920 the on the on the left, on the right back and of course now on 822 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,000 the left back. So I think there could be some 823 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,000 some of those small relations you only get by playing together 824 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,040 for a lot of matches that could be amazing a little bit. 825 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,840 I think that's something Scotland can can exploit. 826 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,640 We are pretty good physically, but of course I always fear 827 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,160 Robertson has really good crosses and everything. 828 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:41,160 But I think we can bring in either Vistaco or your Humanis 829 00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:43,720 and they are they can win most headers. 830 00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:46,200 But yeah, I saw in the first match that you definitely have 831 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,040 some strong strikers. They're strong in the box. 832 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:53,120 And if you are allowed to, to throw in the to, to, to have a 833 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,640 lot of crosses and, and, and attackers like that, I think 834 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,640 that could get could get dangerous also. 835 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:06,560 I think our yeah, I feel after these two matches, especially in 836 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,520 the second game, I assume you're going to beat Belarus and do 837 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,160 that pretty comfortably. So we're not going to be, we're 838 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,960 not going to be too rough before the other match here. 839 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,080 But we do have some players that don't get as much playing time 840 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,760 as we want or have been injured. So maybe in the second, maybe in 841 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,440 the second match towards the end, guys like Hoyland, guys 842 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,400 like Christensen, Erickson who've either been injured and 843 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,520 alcohol from Arsenal, who's either been injured or just 844 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,440 sitting on the bench. They might like a few 845 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,760 percentages which you only get by playing 90 minutes almost 846 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,640 every week. And yeah, too many of our 847 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,400 players haven't done that. That would be my my main 848 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,920 concern. I mean, well, it certainly 849 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,640 sounds like both. You aren't as happy with your 850 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,600 squads as you could be, or at least you know, there could be 851 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,800 more, you could be more players aren't involved. 852 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,240 That could be our experience or whatever, things like that. 853 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,400 I think me and Fenner, we're not across the board. 854 00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:07,440 The squad is the Scotland squad. Midfield is looking very strong. 855 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,080 We're not messing anybody. They're the goalkeeping 856 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,960 departments not looking good as such. 857 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,520 That's something that we're just going to have to deal with, 858 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:21,840 messing our first choice goalkeeper with our last two 859 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,440 performances. We obviously started quite well 860 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,520 in September. Good result in Copenhagen, good 861 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,080 result awaited Belarus. That's a bananas can for scoring 862 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,680 in some respects. Maybe stepped over that came 863 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,120 into the matches last month, only month flair and the 864 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,840 performances were massively off that. 865 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:44,080 Very disappointing from the the Scotland fan perspective when we 866 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:48,840 played Belarus at home actually, obviously due to the timings and 867 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,960 you guys playing after us went to us top of the group. 868 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,760 And you might not believe this, but Hamden Park, when Filtham 869 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,720 Wessel went, as we went top of the group, booze rung round the 870 00:44:58,720 --> 00:45:02,600 stadium because of how disappointed the fans were of 871 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,040 the performance. It was just so far off. 872 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:10,760 So I don't know uncharacteristic even, you know, by what Scotland 873 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,000 standards. Remember, not at that. 874 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,520 I mean, I'll come to how Stephen, I'll touch you. 875 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,520 You obviously know, but more so because you played us last 876 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:21,760 month. You saw how pair we were in the 877 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:26,880 first half and for parts of the second talk you either of you 878 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,880 can come on this how actually no talks. 879 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,560 I've got talk first because he's not how aware we are you of the 880 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,440 fact that Scotland haven't fans and the media haven't been happy 881 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,360 with how the last two games have won, haven't been happy with how 882 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,080 we've performed despite getting the results. 883 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,400 I'll be honest, there haven't been too much coverage of the 884 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,120 Scottish team. I mean, we follow the results 885 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,920 and everything. And I think if people in 886 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,040 Denmark, football fans in Denmark asked about the Scottish 887 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,840 team, the main thing they will talk about is how good the Scott 888 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:04,880 McDaniel is for for Napoli and that whole rejuvenation there. 889 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,600 But the actual the Scottish national team and, and how you 890 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,840 like the atmosphere around that and everything hasn't been too 891 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,320 much. Of course, there's also so many 892 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,760 other things going on in the world of football and, and, and 893 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,480 we have plenty of our own stories. 894 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,440 So I would say the the general knowledge about the Scottish 895 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,400 team situation is I think they're waiting, saving all of 896 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,360 those stories until we we play you. 897 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,400 And then of course, they were starting to be an experts and, 898 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,400 and and tell that whole whole story also depends a lot, I'm 899 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,800 sure on the on your result in in, in Greece, in in the other 900 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,560 match here. But yeah, I'm I'm a bit 901 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,840 surprised that there's unhappiness and everything 902 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,960 because, yeah, I mean, it seems pretty interesting with going 903 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,920 into this last match. Looks like you've done pretty 904 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,640 good. Looks like at least at the time 905 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,760 I can remember football that this is the best the national 906 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,800 team has been in in some time. At least now you're at the 907 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:04,560 tournaments again. So yeah, it surprises me a 908 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,960 little bit. But I'm sure once the game start 909 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,600 that that there must be everybody will be behind the 910 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,560 team and and and that there will be a lot of pressure on on the 911 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,800 Danish players. Yeah, I mean, we, we know we can 912 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,200 reach the levels because you've seen it. 913 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,520 You saw it in Copenhagen. We were, we were very good. 914 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,480 There was a very organized, compact, resilient performance 915 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,480 from Scotland. Didn't get a lot of chances, but 916 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:31,560 we came away with a no, no draw. A lot can change in a month. 917 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:36,280 Stephen, what Scotland team are you expecting to come to Athens 918 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,880 on Saturday night? Because like you said, you saw 919 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,800 us hope everywhere at Hamden against you, be it for half an 920 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,760 hour at the end to manage to make things work. 921 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,480 Like I've just said there, the Belarus game really wasn't much 922 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,480 better. 21 is quite a nervous score line to be running up 923 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,840 against a very lowly ranked side. 924 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,520 What are your expectations about us coming in? 925 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,040 Well, firstly, I guess because I live in the UK and I live in 926 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,120 London, you know, obviously there is a bit more coverage of 927 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,440 Scotland in here, especially with all the home nations. 928 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,720 But I, I mean, the way in which Scotland beat us in the end 929 00:48:11,720 --> 00:48:15,360 didn't surprise me because this is what I've seen Scotland do. 930 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,560 They, they sucker punch teams after overall, maybe not being 931 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,240 the better team throughout a game. 932 00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:23,960 And they'll take an opportunity when it comes and, and get and 933 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,920 get the win or get the result. And so, well, obviously, maybe 934 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,800 I'm sure obviously you guys, you know, it's your national team 935 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,560 and you follow them every time that they play. 936 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,080 But despite the maybe lacking quality compared to other 937 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,760 nations of like more other footballing nations, what I 938 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,080 think you guys do have is mental fortitude. 939 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,360 And that was reflective of what, of how you managed to beat us 940 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,640 because we can Greece have like have been well documented even 941 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,800 in this country, you know, in the UK and in England, when 942 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,280 Greece beat England at Wembley and when we beat Scotland in the 943 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,120 in the nation league player final and being a bit more 944 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,280 coverage because of the kind of more high, high profile 945 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,000 potential players that are coming through of the quality 946 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,320 that we have. But the biggest thing that I've 947 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,920 been saying this whole these whole qualifiers is that we 948 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,800 lack, we lack the mentality. We lack that that those moments 949 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,640 where, you know, everyone bands together and focuses and there 950 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:24,400 was such a lack of focus and a lack of concentration and 951 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,240 everyone just dropped. It happened again against 952 00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:27,640 Denmark. The moment the first goal went 953 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:32,560 in, heads dropped completely when we played them in in in 954 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,160 Copenhagen. And that happened after you went 955 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,080 two nil up against us. We tried a bit more after you 956 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,400 equalised, but that was it. And that that's again, I know I 957 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,520 keep sound like a broken record, but that's something we have to 958 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,240 work on. So I'd, I'd rather do what we 959 00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:50,560 did, what Greece used to do under Fernando Santos, where we 960 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,000 bored the bored the absolute hell out of teams, but always 961 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,400 got the result. We were a tough team to break 962 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,000 down. We lacked, we didn't have the 963 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,240 quality we do now when we qualified for the World Cup in 964 00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:04,480 2014. But that team when on the, I 965 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,520 think the longest unbeaten run of any Greece team ever, 17 966 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,960 games unbeaten. At one point we were eighth in 967 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,120 the FIFA world rankings. Once when we were champions 968 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:17,000 going into Euro 2008 long time ago now and the other time when 969 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:22,160 we went into the I think it was EUR 20, the Euro 2012 or EUR 970 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,320 2014. Oh, sorry, World Cup 2014. 971 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,120 I can't remember, but I'd, I'd rather see us play terrible 972 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:31,200 football there and qualify then attempt to play good football, 973 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,440 which you know, this team, this current team is capable of 974 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:38,360 doing, but lacking the lacking the ideas when when things get 975 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,400 tough. And so in terms of going back to 976 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,040 what you said about what I can expect from Scotland in this 977 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:47,360 game, I, I expect you guys to be just as ruthless in the moments 978 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,600 that matter. And I think that you'll, you 979 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,320 know, it, it, it because you guys, even though you've 980 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,120 qualified for the playoffs and well, there's no guarantee 981 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,160 you'll get through those, you still have a chance of finishing 982 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,920 top of the group. So I fully expect Steve Clarke 983 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:03,440 and his players to come and aim to do as much as they can to 984 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,320 finish, finish top of the group. Whereas like, like I said with 985 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:11,080 us, I want to see a response. But at the end of the day, this 986 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,960 for us, this is about consolidation and preparation. 987 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,720 Yeah, I mean, you touched on it there as well. 988 00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:19,080 I think that's one of our strongest attributes. 989 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,680 Obviously over the last couple of years, we have had the 990 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,640 resurgence of players like like Tom and a Karen T and Andy 991 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,400 Robertson have been mainstays in in big teams over the years. 992 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,040 But I think one of one of the the biggest key attributes to 993 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,840 our success, if you can call it that, in recent years has been 994 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:39,800 the the constant presence of these these kind of key players 995 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,120 in the squad. Obviously, when Steve Clark took 996 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:48,680 over, there wasn't really a plethora of players with a lot 997 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,160 of experience in the national team. 998 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:54,240 A lot of players were under 2020 caps, 15 caps, even 10 caps. 999 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,520 And over the years, he kind of built this core in in the group 1000 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,080 where you can rely on those players to turn up when it 1001 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,600 matters and also just be there in general and have that 1002 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,800 experience and that and that that no say where they've been 1003 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,800 here before. You know, we've been in the 1004 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,760 playoffs of the World Cup against Ukraine, failed there. 1005 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,960 We've been in the play offs against Serbia for the EUR. 1006 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,920 We qualified there and we obviously qualified directly to 1007 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,360 to Euro 2024. So it's kind of been this, you 1008 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,880 know, at times there's been this resentment maybe to Steve Clark 1009 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,240 in the way he does things, but the results have shown and and 1010 00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:32,680 we're in a position now where we can qualify for the World Cup. 1011 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:34,960 And then a question for you, T.O.K. 1012 00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:40,840 Obviously in in my lifetime at least, Denmark has from the 1013 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,360 majority of it been a presence at these tournaments. 1014 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,680 Obviously casting further back they've they weren't really 1015 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,360 well, maybe not expected, but they weren't there for every 1016 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:55,200 tournament. Whereas in recent times as the 1017 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,480 national team has progressed, they've qualified for for a lot 1018 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:02,560 of tournaments in a row. What kind of has that brung to 1019 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,360 the national team in in a sense of from the fans now? 1020 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,240 Is there an expectation to to at least qualify for these 1021 00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:12,440 tournaments and then see what you can do in these tournaments 1022 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,160 and what pressure does that bring to the players? 1023 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:19,280 And then lastly, if you did qualify, would you be going to 1024 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,080 the USA? That's a lot of questions. 1025 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,040 Let's let's take it from from the start. 1026 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,800 Yeah. So this is, of course, apart 1027 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,160 from the from the late 80s where we had an amazing team way 1028 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:37,200 before before I can. Yeah, I was born even it's in my 1029 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,280 lifetime. This is the golden era of, of, 1030 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,280 of the Danish national team. I mean, my, the first tournament 1031 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:46,000 I can remember was in 98 when we had the Laoco brothers Smigeland 1032 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,520 goal. But I was, I was a kid then. 1033 00:53:49,720 --> 00:53:53,160 Then we had a lot of years of of basically what, what the 1034 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,360 Schaffer went through and, and I think what what Greek has Greece 1035 00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,160 has went through as well with subpar national team, really 1036 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,680 poor performance. As I remember, we we finally 1037 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,280 qualified for the World Cup in 2010 and we brought a player 1038 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,040 player from the Danish second tier to the tournament. 1039 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:12,560 And it was just terrible. But yeah, then we obviously we 1040 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:17,400 had that hero in 2020 or 2021 as it actually was where we went to 1041 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,960 the semi final. And, and I think also that 1042 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:24,160 tournament, as amazing as it was and I've never seen as much hype 1043 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,880 and togetherness around the Danish team also brought maybe a 1044 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,200 little bit of, or it definitely brought unrealistic expectations 1045 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,200 for the World Cup in, in Qatar. There were people seriously 1046 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,320 talking about that we had a chance of winning it. 1047 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,200 And, and people were talking about, oh, we can go so far. 1048 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:44,440 And reality was that we looked our team on, on paper, it wasn't 1049 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,960 that good. I mean, it was worse than in 1050 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,520 2021. I think our current team now is 1051 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,400 also worse than in 2021. At that tournament. 1052 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,640 We have so many players who just hit the form of their life going 1053 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,400 into that tournament, the seasons of their life at that, 1054 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,760 around that tournament. And now it's it's not on the 1055 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,640 same level. I mean, it's still good and the 1056 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:08,800 expectations are still very, very high, but it's it's, it's 1057 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,200 not at the same level. And I think the the team is also 1058 00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,040 struggling a little bit that there have been players who 1059 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,800 admitted that they felt, especially going into the last 1060 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,640 World Cup, that expectations, which is unrealistic that and 1061 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,160 they talked them up as well themselves. 1062 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,680 So, so it was not completely the media, the fans thought it was 1063 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,600 also the players who who got caught up in the hype. 1064 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:34,280 But but yeah, I, I think the expectations are very high from 1065 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:35,760 the fans. They not only want us to 1066 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,600 qualify, but they also want to see good football, entertaining 1067 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,880 football. And, and that is very tough to 1068 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,120 live up, live up to. But I do think we had a much 1069 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,960 better space than Qatar. We had a much better space than 1070 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,760 in the last qualification for the Euro and, and, and for the 1071 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,120 Euro itself was pretty disappointing for us, even 1072 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,640 though we wouldn't be qualified. I think we are better now, 1073 00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,840 playing better, getting more out of the players we have, getting 1074 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,680 more out of the team, the squad. So we are moving in a good 1075 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,200 direction. But I'm not going into the World 1076 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,240 Cup if we qualify. I don't want to jinx anything 1077 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,520 with expectations of us doing anything amazing. 1078 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,120 If we just make it out of the group, I'm happy. 1079 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:15,640 I think that will be the official goal. 1080 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:20,640 From there we will see. But yeah, the magic of 2021 is 1081 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:25,000 is is gone. Regarding if I would go to the 1082 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,680 tournament, depends on where we play the matches. 1083 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,920 I feel like with everything going on politically, I don't 1084 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,520 really want to do have anything to do with the USA at all. 1085 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,880 I don't I don't really want to give them my money. 1086 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,280 Maybe if we end up playing in Mexico, Canada, I would look at 1087 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,480 it. But I mean, I just saw the other 1088 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,680 day now that FIFA have made this Peace Prize that I guess they 1089 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:50,000 would give to Donald Trump as as to bribe him a little bit. 1090 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,680 So I think I will keep my hands very far away from from that 1091 00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,160 tournament. It's a bit too dirty for me. 1092 00:56:55,720 --> 00:56:58,000 Yeah, I think the base camp for me would definitely be Mexico or 1093 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,040 Canada. I'd be hoping and praying that 1094 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,440 our matches would be in Vancouver or or Mexico City. 1095 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,160 Yeah, there's a lot of, there's a lot of Scottish expats, 1096 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,720 there's a lot of Scottish expats in America as well, but there's 1097 00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:11,480 definitely a lot in Canada. And I just feel it could be a 1098 00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,480 really good, I feel it could be a really good atmosphere up that 1099 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,080 way. If we were to get games up 1100 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,440 there, especially if I've been playing cards as well, they'd be 1101 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,520 the pot one side and they'd be an easier pot one side. 1102 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:26,120 So thinking about it tactically, not just what's a good holiday 1103 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:31,840 and a good pint, I suppose we're getting Steven View we want. 1104 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,080 Yes, I was just going to say that's the biggest, one of the 1105 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,480 biggest shames for Greece, because the biggest load of 1106 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,400 expats in the world outside of Greece is is in the USA. 1107 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,680 And so for for Greek Americans, that would have been. 1108 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,520 Amazing, I see that a lot on Tech Talk. 1109 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,520 One of my. Family's friends is half half 1110 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,240 Greek, half American and he lived in the States for a long 1111 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,280 time as well. It was, it was a shame with the 1112 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,360 Euros in Germany as well, because I think Germany's not as 1113 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,920 much as UKUSA and Australia, but there's a lot of Greeks in 1114 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,160 Germany as well. So that, that was a huge shame 1115 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:06,480 again, so, you know, it's why hopefully we can qualify for 1116 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,120 the, the, the EUR here, because then there's a load loads of 1117 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,240 Greeks here too. So it'd be nice to and and I'd 1118 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,400 I'd get an opportunity to go see those games as well if if Greece 1119 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,040 qualified for the USA, Fingers crossed. 1120 00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,440 I mean, you, I would, I would back you to a fair. 1121 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,560 But I know what, it's funny you say that though, because when 1122 00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:28,480 after the game at Hamden, I got a lot of Greek reactions on my 1123 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,560 timeline and I was surprised by how many of them were American. 1124 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,080 That really caught me off guard. But yeah, like you said, I mean 1125 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:40,200 like the Scots you get, we get about clearly, I guess we're 1126 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,240 coming towards the end of the podcast, but I've got 2 1127 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,840 protections I want to ask from you. 1128 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:48,200 So I'll go to you first talk from the match and I'll, I'll, 1129 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,200 I'll do it in a way. So I'm not asking to comment on 1130 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:57,080 your own games, but the match in Athens, Greece versus Scotland, 1131 00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:01,440 do you expect Scotland to return to Hamden from that match with 1132 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,360 still an opportunity to get first place? 1133 00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:07,200 Or do you think Greece might get something right for the first 1134 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,760 time so far this campaign? No, from what I've seen this 1135 00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:16,280 qualification, I was, I expect Scotland to to get at least a 1136 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,200 point. I mean, I think it doesn't 1137 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,760 really change too much for you. I think a point or or when 1138 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,320 either way you have to to defeat us unless you win with what, 5 1139 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,720 or 6 goals? So I would be very surprised if 1140 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:32,680 if, if, if you don't, if you're not in it before the last round, 1141 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,560 if you end up losing, that would be surprising for me. 1142 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,400 So yeah, I I definitely have Scotland. 1143 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:37,880 That's the favorite going into this match. 1144 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,040 Yeah, I think, I mean between me and Fen, I don't know. 1145 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,080 I don't know offend. I've much. 1146 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,360 I spoke to him about this. Yeah, but I've got I do I think. 1147 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,120 I think March has given me confidence. 1148 00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,800 I think March has given me a bit of confidence and thinking we 1149 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,000 could maybe get a result with our draw is achievable. 1150 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,760 I just hate the idea of playing for a draw though because it's 1151 00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,520 just not the way you go about things really. 1152 00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,640 Yeah, I think from my point of view, I've got so many nerves 1153 01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,520 were in the game on Saturday. I mean all all this talk is 1154 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:10,480 about the game a Hampton against Denmark kind of just assuming 1155 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,920 that will. So we're at a point in Greece, 1156 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:17,040 but I think that's harder than just saying that out loud. 1157 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:18,440 I think it's going to be a tough game, but. 1158 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,240 It will be. I think, like you made a good 1159 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,920 point earlier as well as I think we've seen this with Scotland. 1160 01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:28,120 When the pressure's off, sometimes that's when the better 1161 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,640 performances come out. And I'm slightly cautious of 1162 01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,480 that being the case with these because I think, Stephen, you 1163 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:38,000 said that in previous podcast away form had been good for 1164 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,000 Greece, home form hadn't been so good because the fans were quite 1165 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,920 intense or you know, on the players backs, a lot of the 1166 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,480 squads quite young, maybe not quite ready to handle that 1167 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,720 pressure. But as no, the pressures off a 1168 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,640 bat, like you said, the new process is beginning this 1169 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,960 learning curve how they take it going on to the Nations League 1170 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,120 and such, I don't know. I'm not. 1171 01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,200 I'd like to hope we get something, but I'm only saying 1172 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,920 that because I've just forked out selling money for flights to 1173 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,280 Athens. So let's say that anyway, 1174 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:13,440 Steven, assuming Scotland to get a positive result like in in the 1175 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:14,760 offense, let's say we get a draw. 1176 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:16,880 Who do you expect to top the group? 1177 01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,440 Sorry boys, it's still going to be the Danes. 1178 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,160 So it's a playoff and I'm again in March for Scotland in your in 1179 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:28,320 your books. I think so, yeah, I I just think 1180 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,640 Denmark's experience in qualifying for stuff 1181 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:34,560 consistently and it and, and in individual matches where they 1182 01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,320 can just turn it on when they need to, maybe despite the 1183 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,320 quality that Toca was talking about, I just think that 1184 01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,120 experience will pull them through. 1185 01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:44,520 I think it'll they'll get to the the World Cup proper and you 1186 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,800 guys, well, unfortunately you have to face the dreaded 1187 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,040 playoffs. Hopefully you don't get anyone 1188 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,080 too difficult, but there are some tough teams even in the 1189 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:51,760 third part as well. I've seen a few. 1190 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,280 Italy, Italy's well, not far pot, but you got you're going to 1191 01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,400 have to play someone at some point from the top pot or no 1192 01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:01,120 likelihood. So no, it's not, it's not the 1193 01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,440 way we want to go about it. Automatic qualification would by 1194 01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,000 far be easiest way to go about it. 1195 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,440 I mean, like I'm just I've got I've Adidas. 1196 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,560 It's Adidas's fault. They've got mentor 8 friends 1197 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,800 over the last couple of days releasing these cats early World 1198 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,080 Cup quit cat cats. That's what the, you know, the 1199 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,080 dominant, it's a World Cup release and then, you know, 1200 01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,920 Scotland, Ireland and Wales are up there because we're still in 1201 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:26,440 with the run. And I think there's the World 1202 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,440 Cup ad there. They've they've done with 1203 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,840 Luminium Al Lino, Messi and that. 1204 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,280 And on the front of the newsstand where the girls can be 1205 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,680 all about World Cup, there's a Scotland jersey on the front. 1206 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,680 And I think I'm sure you can get bagpipes on radio. 1207 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,000 I might just misheard that and put that in there myself. 1208 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:44,640 But it has, weirdly, this marketing campaign has given me 1209 01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,520 confidence. I don't know where it's come 1210 01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:51,680 from, but it's got me up for it. So yeah, I just been in talk. 1211 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,400 I mean, I don't, I don't know what you've got any further 1212 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,640 thoughts on that? Yeah, I think what would be 1213 01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:01,000 really interesting before this last match is also obviously 1214 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,840 Denmark will be in a draw will be enough for us because our 1215 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,600 goal difference, so I think. Yeah, that's really against us 1216 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,280 having we have to win. Exactly. 1217 01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,040 And and I mean, you did very well in the first match, as we 1218 01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,720 as we said, but you also sat back a lot. 1219 01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,920 I mean, I haven't seen Scotland too much when they had to go up 1220 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,720 and actually dominate and create the match. 1221 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,360 I mean, also in the previous tournaments, I feel like this 1222 01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:29,480 strategy was always to sit back, go countless attack the 1223 01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:33,560 opponents at the right time. But here really like there's 1224 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:37,120 there's no other matches is if this match you have to win and 1225 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,480 it would be interesting when Denmark can be the team that 1226 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,440 sits back, wait for the right moment. 1227 01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,600 I don't think we would go and play defensively apart the boss 1228 01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,720 or anything, but we definitely don't have to create the match 1229 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:52,720 And and and I think maybe describe his team will lack a 1230 01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:56,000 little bit of creativity there. I feel like it's not really a 1231 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,720 team that is set up to break down defenses and dominate 1232 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,480 matches. And I think that could be a 1233 01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,960 challenging thing. And that's, that's also why I'm, 1234 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,960 I'm more confident before this match, despite all the away and 1235 01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:12,520 everything that I think you might struggle going into to a 1236 01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,160 match like this and, and actually have to create stuff on 1237 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,800 your own and not being able to, to play a little bit more 1238 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,280 cautious where I think that's your strongest side, at least 1239 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,520 from what I've seen. Yeah, because I definitely 1240 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:27,080 think, I definitely think Scotland benefit from situations 1241 01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:33,240 where we it's not a must win and you know, we can keep our cards 1242 01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,160 closer to her chest in that respect because you know, 1243 01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,120 Denmark can come and they can send and they have the quality 1244 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,360 to get us on the break. And I think what you said, we're 1245 01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,760 not a team that's going to like dominate an attacking sense. 1246 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:49,640 And we were really doing well with Mctominy in that regard in 1247 01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:55,840 the 20 year 24 campaign and sensing teams have it was less 1248 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:58,240 of a known quantity at that point especially. 1249 01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,560 And then an attacking sense where there's no he has, he's a 1250 01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,200 household name in Italy. You know, he's where as well 1251 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,160 documented what he can do. And I think Scotland are now 1252 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:12,840 trying to find a way to get the best out of him when you know, 1253 01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:16,160 he's not a surprise package. People know double up on 1254 01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,000 McDonald, make sure he's the guy you're packing up. 1255 01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,360 That was a good discussion guys. I'd like to thank you both so 1256 01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:26,920 much for coming on. Like I said, two huge games 1257 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,400 coming up for Scotland. Can we do it? 1258 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,360 Can we get to the World Cup automatic qualification? 1259 01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,680 That moment at Hampden when a full time whistle goes and the 1260 01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:37,920 lead comes off the place would just be sensational because we 1261 01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:39,440 didn't get it. He's getting ahead of himself. 1262 01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:41,920 Again, then we didn't get it Yep, that's Stephen. 1263 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:45,600 I'm sorry that's that you know, I need to start thinking about 1264 01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:49,880 gaming offense more than the one Hamden on Tuesday night. 1265 01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:53,280 But yeah, it'd just be incredible to be in that 1266 01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:57,360 situation, but not again. Thank you so much both for 1267 01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,280 coming on again. Because the first two podcasts 1268 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,440 were very good, but few people writing in and saying good 1269 01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:07,400 things about us and recommending it to other people based on how 1270 01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,120 good it was. So it's been nice to get you all 1271 01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:10,680 along again. It's been it's been quite a 1272 01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:14,800 civil chat for, you know, given Steven Stephen might have been 1273 01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:16,640 coming here bearing a bit of a grudge against us. 1274 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:20,520 Talk still with our World Cup aspiration is still still on. 1275 01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,040 So I'd like to thank you both again. 1276 01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:24,520 It's been lovely speaking to you, Fenn. 1277 01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,200 Good as always to talk to you mate. 1278 01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,920 Glad to have you on the podcast. Help me out with this one. 1279 01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:34,840 And well, good luck to Scotland. I'm sure if you're watching and 1280 01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,480 or you're the games, make sure you're supporting the boys as 1281 01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,160 much as possible. They'll definitely be needing 1282 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,120 it. I've seen some crazy things over 1283 01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:45,080 the years at Hamden so I just my rallying cry to the Tartan Army 1284 01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:48,360 would be back the team from the first whistle to the last 1285 01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,560 because Yep, it wasn't good last month. 1286 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,840 October was far from ideal. The performances and I think the 1287 01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,120 booze were the booze were merited in some respect. 1288 01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,440 I never liked to be myself but that's the way it went. 1289 01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:04,080 But the players knew it was bad, the manager and it was bad. 1290 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,200 It's behind us now, so if we're going to show up for this 1291 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,560 potential 90 minutes a hand and make sure you're given that 1292 01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:11,640 you're all for the team because we can achieve something here 1293 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:13,360 potentially. Yeah. 1294 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:15,880 And just before we wrap up, I just want to give the 1295 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,400 opportunity for both of you just to say where we everyone 1296 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,840 listening can find joblessly of. Course you. 1297 01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:24,800 I don't think the vote is closed yet for the Football awards. 1298 01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,840 It has, yes. It closed couple weeks ago. 1299 01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:27,600 Yeah. Yeah, it did. 1300 01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:30,840 Yes. We, we, we are nominated in the 1301 01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:32,840 Football Content Awards, Hellas Football podcast. 1302 01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,120 As anyone who did vote for us, we really appreciate your 1303 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:39,320 support and I'll be going there in a few weeks to the finals to 1304 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,160 soak it up as as nominees. I'm looking forward to that. 1305 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,560 And if you want to find anything that we do at Hellas Football, 1306 01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:51,200 it's at Hellas Footy on X on Facebook and on Instagram for 1307 01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,800 updates on Greek football, the podcast you can find on any 1308 01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,120 podcast platform you listen to your podcast on, whether that be 1309 01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,520 Spotify, Apple Music or anything else. 1310 01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:04,240 And me personally, you can find me at Steve Konturu. 1311 01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:09,920 That's KOUNTOUROU Long surname, as I've said before. 1312 01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,200 But yeah, it's been lovely. Chang guys and all the best. 1313 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,760 You know, Greece may be out, but at least I have Cyprus who are 1314 01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,319 also out, but they're also fun to watch. 1315 01:08:19,319 --> 01:08:22,479 So I've got two teams to to to watch in the international 1316 01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,479 break. I've already gone. 1317 01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:27,640 Followed you now, Steven. So pleasure that'll. 1318 01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,359 Be your your first new follower. Yeah, yeah, you can. 1319 01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:34,840 You can find me at the token T that's T OK E and then the 1320 01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:41,319 thelate THEILAD on Twitter or X as it's called now. 1321 01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,439 And yeah, if you if you feel like you want to read about 1 1322 01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:48,080 brilliant Danish or if you want to learn new language, just like 1323 01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,640 Google Translate, it's it's Bill Ford Park dot DK. 1324 01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:55,160 We also have a podcast and yeah, a lot of coverage of of Louis 1325 01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:57,520 brings if you want to keep learning more about the 1326 01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:00,160 potential new Scottish national team player. 1327 01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:02,479 OK, Phil, thanks very much for that, guys. 1328 01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:06,760 Obviously, we will tag you both. When we put the socialsness, 1329 01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,800 hopefully you'll see lots of content about the game and this 1330 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:13,800 podcast across different platforms, Tech talk, Instagram 1331 01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,680 and X. So keep your eyes peeled for, 1332 01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,240 well, maybe you've already seen it and that's how you've ended 1333 01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,560 up listening. So if you have, thanks very 1334 01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,520 much. Hope you've enjoyed the episode. 1335 01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,600 I hope you're just as excited as me and Finn are for these two 1336 01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:28,560 games. Like I said, two massive games. 1337 01:09:29,319 --> 01:09:33,040 One last thing before you go, I'll just ask you if you could, 1338 01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,319 if you enjoyed the episodes, make sure you go and rate it. 1339 01:09:35,319 --> 01:09:38,279 Whatever you listen to your podcasts, no matter what metric 1340 01:09:38,279 --> 01:09:40,399 that is for that. I think Spotify, you can rate US 1341 01:09:40,399 --> 01:09:42,640 five stars. Things like that goes a long 1342 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,120 way. It's much appreciated. 1343 01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,640 Obviously a lot of work goes into the accounts. 5 big news 1344 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:52,000 recently, obviously transitioned from everything Scotland to 1345 01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:56,040 Football Park Scotland, so you'll definitely see hopefully 1346 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:59,040 I it was good we what we did before was really good, but this 1347 01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,840 will hopefully give us a platform to create bad content, 1348 01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,680 you know bring more regular. Person set, hopefully soon. 1349 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:07,640 Oh, you. Never know, You never know. 1350 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:09,360 Only studio. You can always dream. 1351 01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:10,840 No teasers. No teasers. 1352 01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,360 Yeah, exactly. But no, hopefully more to come. 1353 01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,080 We'll definitely catch up with you after these games. 1354 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,440 It's quite a tight turn around and I think a few of us will be 1355 01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,120 busy. I'll know I'll be won't be 1356 01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,960 available. I'll be in Athens so hopefully 1357 01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:24,960 drowning myself and me forcing heroes. 1358 01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:28,440 So yeah, definitely. But no. 1359 01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,120 Then once again, thanks for coming on. 1360 01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,200 I was good to have. You very much enjoy yourself 1361 01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,720 while in your Athens. I certainly hope I do. 1362 01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:37,920 It's a long way to. Go we all do all right yeah, 1363 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:42,440 there enjoys Well, thank you very much for listening and 1364 01:10:42,440 --> 01:10:50,720 we'll see you next time guys. Listen. 1365 01:11:00,700 --> 01:11:02,260 To the noise.