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Listen to the noise. 
Listen to the passion in Hamden 

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Park. 
It's John again. 

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It's Johnny's Yes Man, the Green
done by Dunfish Chance, the one 

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for Scotland. 
Hello, and welcome back to 

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another episode of Scots with a 
Mic. 

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I'm your host, James Scott, and 
it's been a very busy January 

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across Scotland. 
We've had lots of ingoings and 

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outgoings, and that is what 
we're here to talk about. 

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The transfer window slammed shut
yesterday at this time of record

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then. 
And yeah, there was a lot going 

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on right up to the deadline, 
lots of late moves and lots to 

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talk about. 
So let's get into. 

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Joining me on the podcast is Fen
Crocker. 

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Fen, good to have you back on. 
Good to be on, lots to talk 

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about. 
I definitely and also joining us

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is Nail Cavanaugh Nail how we 
doing? 

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Good mate, thank you. 
It's been a been a while since 

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I've been on a a lot's happened 
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Yeah, he must have just been 
non-stop with Celtic last night.

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Luna. 
Luna coming in. 

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Final still could be another 
side in as well. 

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Yeah, true. 
Yeah, Yeah, we'll get into that,

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I'm sure. 
Yeah, I mean, right. 

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OK, where we start? 
I mean the biggest transfer in 

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Scottish football was arguably 
Scotland striker Kieran Berry, 

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former Reef Rovers man. 
I'll plug that right now. 

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He moved from Herbs to Verona in
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plus add-ons. 
I believe so, yeah. 

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Substantial fee, especially for 
a club like Herbs is one of the 

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biggest transfers we've seen 
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Club, I mean, I mean, it's a 
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massive, massive fee for him. 
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on coming in and they rejected 
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We were all thinking, you know, 
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fair to play to Herbs. 
You know, they held out for for 

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what they deemed was was the 
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And they've got their massive 
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I think it was about 48 hours 
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coach got sacked. 
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But also be basically thrown our
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There's that context there. 
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Yeah. 
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I want to say they're round 
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Fiorentina, but they only won 
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the league. 
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they're sitting a bit on the 
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It's not looking great. 
And the managers obviously got 

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the chop for us. 
Is that good or bad for him? 

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I don't know. 
Obviously he was. 

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Obviously wasn't done too good a
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Their second lowest scorers in 
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And like you said, yeah, they 
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So maybe they're preparing for 
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Maybe Kieran Bowie can conceive 
them from the drop. 

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Well, I think Sarah B might 
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for him if they were to go down,
get some experience kind of kind

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of similar to what Josh Doig 
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And he's came back stronger this
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So yeah, we'll have to see he's.
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Verona Habs, by the way, that's 
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there. 
It's a, it's a tiny wee, yeah. 

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So Josh Doyke, he was done, said
Abby as well. 

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He's not special and it's done 
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So but I mean, is a good move in
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you mentioned there, one of the 
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strikers of us and not up to the
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Pretty. 
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potentially getting game time at
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I mean, I guess that's always 
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These guys go tightly and like 
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his chance now in the start of 
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you start to think, oh, has it 
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getting game time at all? 
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expect to see Kimbe fairly 
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if he's going to bring something
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current strike force isn't. 
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It's good to see Hebs but you 
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mean personally I don't know 
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bad dead thing sex my own was on
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didn't need to sell and they 
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Exactly. 
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resolve and they held out and 
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biggest thing when the Creek 
Gordon got Sunland. 

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It must be around 2007. 7. 2007,
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I've got that bang on. 
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And when you go back, actually 
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money to be getting thrown 
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Back. 
In year back in. 

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That does matter at the time. 
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And I think one of the only 
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Scott Brown going hips to 
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believe before the Kieran Bowie 
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I know. 
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I think it's good for obviously 
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getting on our national side, 
it's got another player in this 

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area. 
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for Scotland as a league as 
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I think obviously we talk about 
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but I think for the league 
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you know, non Old Firm clubs as 
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out for for these these top fees
that we've not seen for so long 

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for their best players. 
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clubs have just, you know, take 
taking whatever they're given 

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really. 
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Ferguson yeah, yeah, Key. 
They all win. 

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I mean it's kind of comparing 
different players here. 

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They're not a striker and you 
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stuff. 
Like they didn't go for anywhere

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near this sort of money. 
Even Lennon Miller, there's only

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5.5 million I believe that might
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So. 
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like even even in the last few 
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they were they received a bit of
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Blackburn, turned it down 
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Dundee got a 7 figure bid from 
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turned it down as well. 
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that these clubs that are 
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that they are holding out for 
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well. 
Celtics turning down 25,000,000 

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for angles. 
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that's smart or stupidity. 
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debate as well. 
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you especially see when you look
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getting branded about for 
players, for example, Yorgen, 

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Stan Larson, 50 million or just 
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from Wolves, two goals all 
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these prices. 
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well, when clubs are in a 
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don't need to sell, then why not
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There's no Hibbs swearing 
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out at all. 
But they've got a good enough 

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fee there. 
So I think they've got every day

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and they should be. 
I'd like to see more of it, more

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demanding, high fees. 
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that situation are happy, like 
Hibbs will be got to lose 1 of 

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their star players. 
But like you said, the money 

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they've got in a key for next 
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something they can really use to
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And yeah, I. 
Did go out quickly and sign a 

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few replacements obviously, I 
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Tottenham on the loan as and 
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Rovers. 
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replace them as quickly as 
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not going out, being rash and 
keeping a lot of money, as you 

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said, in the Kitty for next 
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Yeah, about what? 
What we'll go back up because 

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we'll work our way through some 
of the top transfers in 

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Scotland, but what we'll do is 
we'll cover a couple of the 

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Scottish ones first. 
London Dykes made his transfer 

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from Birmingham to Charl and 
obviously wasn't getting too 

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much game time at Birmingham and
he made a good start to life at 

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the Valley with a goal at the 
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which is quite funny because I 
think they were one of the 

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club's been rumoured to the 
after them or no Lester the last

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time. 
Yeah, it was less to score 

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together. 
I think both, sorry, both those 

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clubs around from actually, but 
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them, took his goal well, again,
he's another failure, has not 

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been getting too much game time.
But yes, again, it's so crucial 

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to the way Steve Carr plays when
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sometimes depending on how he 
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business. 
How good is it to see him, you 

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know, going somewhere He's 
clearly going to be getting game

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time. 
It's a back four months coming 

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up for a lot of players across 
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wanting to be in that squad in 
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Dykes is a guy there's been sort
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I think people have sort of been
saying how long can a guy that's

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not getting games consistently 
stay in a squad based on the 

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matter of what he's done before.
But I think yeah, well, does 

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well from. 
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think it's a big four months 
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others. 
I think for others it's about 

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getting in the squad. 
I think for him it's about 

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getting as fit as possible. 
You mentioned there he made a 

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good start. 
I think he came on against 

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Sheffield United and within 60 
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assist. 
Only goal of the game, one nil 

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win. 
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him. 
He's plays 90 minutes, two 

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games, 87 minutes against 
Leicester, as you said, where he

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where he got a goal. 
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going to be dropped from Steve 
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But it's about being the best 
player that he can be for what 

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what he is because because 
obviously he's not that clinical

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goal scorer. 
He's not going to get a hat 

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trick every game, but but he's 
going to win every single 

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header. 
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possible come come June 11th or 
whatever it is against Haiti. 

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Yeah, I mean, as well worth 
knowing, unfortunately he did 

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mess out in the EUR back in 2024
like that was that was, you 

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know, heartbreaking stuff for 
him. 

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He was, he was still over with 
the squad. 

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No, that's how much he enjoys 
being part of that unit and 

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stuff. 
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was so important and getting us 
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And it would have been a shame 
if you know, he just tapered it 

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off in form and just wasn't 
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in the best place, whether 
that's in the squad or not. 

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And this will give him the best 
chance to and like you said, 

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starting life off in the night. 
We a goal and assessed in his 

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first couple of games. 
Can't really complain. 

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Think I mean, there was it was 
quite a few Scottish boys on the

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move. 
Actually. 

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We'll just rattle through a 
couple and then we'll get some 

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sort of general opinions. 
Even Mooney of Saint Madden went

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down to Arsenal. 18 year old, 
good move for a young guy, 

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Although I mean you do see a lot
of these young guys going down 

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to the big clubs down South and 
sometimes you do go a bit mess 

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and see there's always that 
concern. 

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But I guess the youngster will 
be absolutely buzzing to get a 

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move like that and I heard 
someone with the chop in there. 

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Yeah, yeah, I was just going to 
say as an Aberdeen fan that that

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brings me back to Lewis Perrier,
who I think at the time he had 

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scored like 40 goals and 30 
games, something mental and went

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down to Leeds Academy and I've 
not heard anything about him 

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since. 
I'm always a bit wary where, you

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know, are these players really, 
are they really investing for 

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for in these guys for the future
or are they just bolstering out 

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there on the 21 squad for for 
the key players that they are 

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investing in? 
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that they get, I saw something 
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is I think 4 million on top of 
it for Arsenal. 

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So with with one win, a 10th of 
that is is gone to Evan Mooney. 

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Obviously I think it was around 
400 K for for him to move down. 

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They've got to sell on theme St.
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pennies for these guys. 
So are they, are they investing 

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in them or are they just 
bolstering out their their youth

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squads for other players that 
they do see a future for? 

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Yeah, I mean, it's interesting 
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has not been a club. 
There's been too many Scottish 

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guys recently, apart from Kim 
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and then they signed Callan 
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Simpson Johnson, and he's been 
doing fairly well. 

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He's been doing really well for 
them. 

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Yeah, and he rave reviews. 
Only 15, I'm pretty sure he was 

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training with. 
Was it the first team? 

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Was he? 
Yeah, it was the first team for 

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a couple times. 
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remember his under seventeens or
under nineteens captain. 

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He's one of the two and he's 
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17 Scotland squad again. 
So yeah, he's did really well. 

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I and he's yeah I mean he's he's
he's well thought of down there 

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centre half as well position 
we've not been blessed with too 

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much over the recent years so 
it's good to see that umm but 

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another player that Arsenal were
interested in but it didn't end 

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up happening. 
He went to Tottenham Hotspur on 

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loan is James Wilson. 
Umm, I mean, that just seemed to

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come out of nowhere, doesn't. 
It that's the that's the most 

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bizarre move of the window for 
me. 

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It's obviously T she can play in
the for the under 20 ones. 

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But like you say, James, it just
came out and nowhere like 

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literally nowhere like he was 
he's leaving. 

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He's not even been playing at 
hearts and then all of a sudden 

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taught number and from. 
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under the category that friend 
was taught about as where was 

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did he actually have a eye for 
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are they just wanting to like 
bull stop in under 21 squad? 

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Yeah. 
And the way it's done is like 

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it's a loan with the auction to 
buy in the site. 

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No, I think it's a good move for
the lads. 

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Obviously happy for him and I'm 
glad it's alone because 

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obviously it doesn't. 
If it doesn't work out, you can 

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come back up and and still be at
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But I'd honestly not be 
surprised if he makes his debut.

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As far as this season, I know 
that's bold to say, but in the 

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January transfer window, they 
signed 1 senior player. 

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Yeah, they're they've got an 
incredible injury crisis, one 

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that I've never seen before. 
And if their squad gets better, 

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I would not be surprised if if 
he makes his debut at one point.

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Be shocked by that to fail. 
I know he's been good but for me

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that's a that's a better 
stretch. 

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But like you said that when he's
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mean, Adam, that's usually on 
the podcast from Gorgie talk 

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that says like as long as he's 
at Tynecastle under that 

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McKenna, he won't get much game 
time. 

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Derek is not been, I mean, he 
has brought free guys like Lewis

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Ferguson. 
He did play with David Watson at

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Kilmarnock, but he's not been 
like overly known for playing 

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young players and maybe giving 
them a chance to go here does 

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expose them to something new, 
give them opportunities that you

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wouldn't begin the hearts right 
now. 

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Even if he has traded with the 
first team, but that's a real 

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bonus. 
I just. 

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Question what it does to his 
value if spars you know, if he 

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just plays in under 20 ones for 
the next couple of months and 

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any retardants to hearts in the 
summer and spars just got now 

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you know right like what I mean 
it's good for. 

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I don't think it makes as big an
impact as you think because even

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if he doesn't get sighted 
permanently, he's still trained 

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with the first team at Spurs and
you learn from players that are 

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leaps and bounds above anything 
at heart. 

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So I think, I think it's, I 
think it's only positive. 

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I don't know about the way Spurs
are playing. 

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I don't know how many leaps. 
Well, come on, let's not compare

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Hearts. 
Let's not compare Hearts. 

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The Spurs. 
So I thought you were you going 

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to jump in there now. 
But I do get that point because 

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that is an interesting point 
because would it benefit more 

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being in an under 21 station 
room for six months or being an 

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addressing room that's going for
a league title like in the and 

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like few years down the lane and
his career 10 years time she's 

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still at hearts of moved on. 
I think expedience of being an 

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attention and that's going for a
league title, I think would 

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probably benefit more than just 
being in a under 21 station 

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room. 
Yeah, I mean, I agree with that.

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But the same time if he's get 
obviously it's big FS, but if he

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is getting exposed to first team
at Spurs and I think that's 

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really good for him as well. 
And I think right now he's fifth

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choice striker Hearts, which is 
crazy. 

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And I think he had options to go
out on Luntus and Johnson and 

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they they they blocked that 
heart. 

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So, you know, who knows? 
I think that's one that we'll 

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just have to wait to. 
See, that's quite a very slight 

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indoors moment. 
From there you can go into Perf.

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Instead, he's ended up like 
Hotspur. 

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Like, is this so funny how these
things work out? 

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But I know best of luck to James
because if it works out from 

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that could be, you know, that 
could really like make his 

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career, but we'll have to wait 
and see see how it plays out. 

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Touching on a couple other 
Scotland transfers, right? 

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Finley got this. 
I've got that right this time 

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going from Rangers to Kilmarnock
on loan. 

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I mean, he's a guy I would have 
liked to seen in the first team 

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of Rangers. 
To be honest. 

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I'm surprised he's going to 
Kilmarnock. 

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I mean, I don't know, I don't 
mean to hammer Neil McCann here,

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but his management track record 
isn't amazing. 

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I don't know what another forum 
on Sunday him, Finley Curtis 

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under him like the parts would 
do for his development. 

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But you know, I guess that's 
we'll just have to wait and see 

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how that plays out. 
Transfers that didn't happen. 

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That's a wee topic we can touch 
on because there was a massive 

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story that broke about Robertson
leave in Liverpool, Andy 

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Robertson, Scotland captain, 
leave in Liverpool and go into 

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Tottenham as well, really blow 
up, but then it didn't happen. 

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Where does that sit with you 
guys? 

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Is that something you would like
to see happen? 

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Because obviously he is kind of 
playing second fiddle to 

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calculus. 
From a Scotland point of view, 

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if you've been selfish then yes,
you would like to see it happen.

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It's the same as dates you want 
your key players to be playing 

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regularly going into the World 
Cup. 

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But a, I think as well, if you 
look at it on the flip side, 

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he's he's obviously clearly 
happy at Liverpool. 

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You know what he's going to get 
for Liverpool. 

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He's still going to be heavily 
involved I think, because I 

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think in recent weeks he's been 
more up to it. 

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But in the first few months Kirk
is was a bit hot and cold. 

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So I think he's still going to 
feature a lot. 

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But just you'd obviously rather 
him playing week in week out. 

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But if he's happy but playing 
each club football, then I think

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that'll be that'll be all right.
Yeah. 

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I think, I think it could have 
actually worked out well if he'd

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gone to Tottenham and he could 
have, you know, kind of taken 

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James Wilson under his wing a 
bit. 

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But no, as long as he's still 
getting some game time at 

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Liverpool, I think it's all 
right. 

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Obviously he's regarded so 
highly in Liverpool, almost like

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a club legend I think. 
Every location now on the 

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talking about, you know how much
the fans appreciate Sort of 

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modern day legend. 
Absolutely. 

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He has kind of, in his time at 
Liverpool, reinvented what means

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to be a fullback. 
Absolutely. 

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I think people, I think you'll 
only get the recognition that he

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deserves when he retires. 
I think how much he 

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revolutionized the modern day 
fullback is quite understated. 

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I think when you think back, it 
was him and Alexander Arnold 

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that kind of created this, this 
shift that we see today as as 

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normal. 
So yeah, he's he's been integral

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to a great Liverpool side over 
the years. 

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He's adored by them. 
And I think it's it's probably 

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only right that he stayed. 
Obviously, like Niall said, from

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a selfish point of view, I'd 
love to see him get booked more 

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game time. 
But, you know, I'm sure he's 

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happy where he is. 
Yeah, but he said World Cup 

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coming up, you want him to play 
in. 

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But I mean, I think he his 
contract runs out in the summer.

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He will be playing football away
from marriage aside, at some 

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point next season. 
And I think this will be. 

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To see you'd expect to get a a 
proper and field farewell at the

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end of the season that yeah, if 
he'd left. 

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And as much as it's theatrical 
and isn't really substance any 

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of any material substance to how
his footballs played, I'm sure 

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that you would quite like to get
that sort of heroes goodbye. 

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Yeah. 
And I think when you think about

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having a Scotland shirt as well,
I think this might be or 

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probably is the the last major 
tournament that he will be 

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starting for us because I think 
in 2028 he'll be God. 

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How old, 3534? 
Yeah, he's 31 right now, but he 

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turns 32 in March, so. 
Yeah, maybe 34. 

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I've come there, you know. 
Sorry. 

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EUR, Yeah, the EUR will be 34 
and I think there's enough 

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talent coming through that, you 
know, he's clearly not at his 

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prime anymore. 
And I think, you know, there's 

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potential that he wouldn't start
the euro. 

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So obviously that's a wait and 
see. 

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You'll be in the squad at the 
matching styles. 

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There's some sort of massive 
shift in what's coming through. 

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But like you said, this is maybe
his last crack. 

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It being one of the main many 
def. 

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I can't imagine it to be 
captain. 

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Come then if he was, you know, 
he's not going to be playing 

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regularly for us. 
So yeah, no. 

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But yeah, that worked out the 
way it did. 

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We had rumors of Lennon Miller 
going to Strasbourg, but the 

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sort of peered out and now he 
seems to begin a lot more 

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regular game time at Otanese. 
And he was playing the other 

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night, used to beat Roma one 
now, which was a great result 

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for him and the team. 
And he's like, like I said, 

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that's him 123456 last six games
he's featured quite heavily. 

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So yeah, great to see for him. 
Just just to add on to that, I 

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think the Danaze fans absolutely
love him. 

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I've seen also even other fans 
from different Syria clubs 

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saying like, you know, this is 
this is a guy for the future and

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a couple. 
He's got something best. 

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Than him like I've been on my 
Google Translate on Twitter and 

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everything like that. 
Yeah. 

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What was it? 
Miller must play. 

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Lenin must play there. 
Yeah, they played there. 

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It's a Como game or something. 
But yeah, he's, he's been really

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good for them. 
So it's good to see you 'cause 

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yeah, there was a few months 
where I think me and you, James,

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were thinking, is this going to 
work out? 

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There was a reason for. 
The bench, it's not like you 

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expect them to go in and start 
dominating and starting every 

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week, but like you really just 
wasn't featuring at all and you 

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kind of thought when's he going 
to get, when's he going to get 

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his break? 
There was even rumours of him 

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being homesick. 
I didn't believe that, but you 

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know, you never know. 
But yeah, good to see him 

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finding his feet in Italy. 
Then another guy in Italy there 

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was rumoured to be moving. 
Was she Adams on the Planetarino

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scored a couple of goals in his 
last couple of games. 

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He finally found this sort of 
goal scoring form. 

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Believe he got two against Roma 
and then he scored one at the 

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weekend there. 
So yeah, he was rumored to be 

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going to Wolves, which are in 
pretty dire straights at the 

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bottom of the Premier League. 
So I think I'll speak for 

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everyone when I say I'm glad 
he's not ended up there. 

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Yeah, as well. 
Not much, not much said about 

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that. 
I think he much prefers, I think

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you'll probably much prefer 
being at 3:00 than Wolverhampton

446
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,240
Wanderers. 
And yeah, glad that didn't 

447
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,520
happen. 
I'm not even sure he would be 

448
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,760
first choice straight kid at 
wolves either. 

449
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,080
Yeah. 
I think he would be well, 

450
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,520
obviously strand Larson's left, 
but I just don't think he'd have

451
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:52,040
been like, no offense, he Adams,
but we was also looking to stay 

452
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:56,040
up and I just don't think that's
a a Maliki signing. 

453
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,960
So I think it was obviously just
for for the squad. 

454
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,800
Yeah and then like as well when 
I say there are two goals 

455
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,160
against roll my scored against 
Leche at the weekend. 

456
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,120
You're finally getting goals. 
You know he's not been the most 

457
00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:12,920
prolific over there and he's got
you know, 3 in the last four 

458
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,760
games so I don't know why 
suddenly. 

459
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,080
Exactly. 
So yeah, another guy that was 

460
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,040
rumoured to be on the move was 
Nathan Patterson potential and 

461
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,920
moved to Genoa. 
What's the thoughts around that?

462
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,480
Because Patterson hasn't been 
featured and overly forever and 

463
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,720
and. 
He surprised me a wee bit 

464
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,920
because I know you thought you 
said there that he hasn't overly

465
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,080
been featuring, but I think he's
actually like featured the. 

466
00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:41,400
Last couple months. 
I will, yeah, he's coming. 

467
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,320
I mean the last few games ever 
and he played 71 minutes, Aston 

468
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,520
Villa played 90 minutes. 
Probably 116, yeah. 

469
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,880
But I was a bit, I was a wee bit
surprised when that leak came 

470
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:59,000
out that because I believe that 
Jake O'Brien's back from injury,

471
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,760
which maybe we have a factor in 
it, but then. 

472
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,520
How long does that last or no 
true like that's that's kind of 

473
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,840
new a new obviously when when 
you read stuff online, they do 

474
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,000
even the funds and the blogs. 
The ones added enemy sort of 

475
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,280
thing that he was a backup to 
James O'Brien. 

476
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,560
And it's kind of like again. 
I mean, if you think back, 

477
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,480
Nathan Patterson was probably 
our biggest prospect to write 

478
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,200
back before he started getting 
his injured problems and then 

479
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,800
I'm breaking a. 
Member friendly against Poland, 

480
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,320
I don't know if you remember, I 
think it was yeah, they got a 

481
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,040
penalty to equalize and last 
minute that wasn't one and he 

482
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,200
absolutely told them to shreds 
that game just up and down the 

483
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,760
wing all all that long. 
And I think that was when I was 

484
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,640
like, oh, this guy's like really
got potential. 

485
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,400
And obviously he's not gone on 
and and done that consistently 

486
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:51,040
and he's been out his worst 
enemy, but I hope that he can 

487
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,040
get over that and, and trying to
find some, some regular game 

488
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,000
time. 
I don't know if that's going to 

489
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,120
happen. 
Everything like you said, 

490
00:24:58,120 --> 00:25:04,840
O'Brien, what I've read is that,
yeah, he's not, he's not really 

491
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,440
thought that fondly by the fans.
Hopefully it can change their 

492
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,600
minds. 
Obviously, he's just for them. 

493
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,880
He's just been injured for so 
long that they've not really got

494
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,680
a chance to look at him properly
for a for a sustained period of 

495
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,360
time. 
Yeah, he's like one of the sort 

496
00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:19,800
of one, but no, the picture for 
that long. 

497
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,240
Maybe a bit like an heckey as 
well. 

498
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,280
You kind of like even as I've 
got on fine. 

499
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,480
You can you came back. 
I think you featured early last 

500
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,960
year might be wrong in saying 
that, but it kind of came back. 

501
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,600
You're like goodness, you know, 
and then you look his agencies 

502
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,520
only 24 like this guy scores so 
much as clear head on me. 

503
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,240
I wasn't not there writing them 
off, but you do can you just 

504
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,920
slips out to the back of your 
mind and other guys become your 

505
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,200
natural first choice when you're
thinking of who you'd start for 

506
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:49,800
the team especially, I mean what
Italy has done for Scottish 

507
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,760
players of recent years. 
Would you blame him for having 

508
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,280
having a look over there and 
going? 

509
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,360
You know, I want a better that, 
you know, a decent league chance

510
00:25:57,360 --> 00:26:00,600
to prove myself as a good level 
and also get minutes under my 

511
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,960
belt and put myself in 
contention for the summer 

512
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,920
because he's our guy that missed
the EUR last last time around. 

513
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,200
We end up playing Ralston at 
right back. 

514
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:10,960
He'll be going. 
You know what, there's an 

515
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,280
opportunity to get it right back
there. 

516
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,440
Hecky's not playing every week 
for Brentford. 

517
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,560
You know, there's a chance that 
right back spot might be up for 

518
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,880
grabs. 
And you know, if I can get 

519
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,200
consistent game time, why can't 
it be me? 

520
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,720
So yeah, another one, one last 
one, one last one. 

521
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:32,560
It didn't happen was Rory Wilson
on our top striking prospects at

522
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,960
Aston Villa. 
He was rumoured to be in a 

523
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,640
similar, sort of a similar sort 
of James Wilson move, 

524
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,600
Hoffenheimer sort of doing one 
through our loan to potentially 

525
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,760
by in the summer. 
But yeah, couldn't be worked out

526
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,080
there. 
And I think there's still stuff 

527
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,800
on the, I think, can we say fan 
about the yes? 

528
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,760
So there's a buy option that was
proposed by Hoffenheim for about

529
00:26:53,760 --> 00:27:00,080
€7 million, but they're looking 
just to do a straight loan for 

530
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,920
Rory because I think Aston 
Villas still have them, still 

531
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,680
have Rory in in their long term 
plans. 

532
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,920
So the transfer window shut here
obviously and in the major 

533
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,680
leagues in Europe, but there is 
still options in Norway and 

534
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,280
Sweden I believe because their 
windows are open much longer, 

535
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,760
March and April I think. 
So obviously no names being 

536
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,360
dropped, but there's clubs 
interested in in Norway and 

537
00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:27,360
Sweden. 
So all hope is not lost because 

538
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:30,360
I think, yeah, Hoffenheim was 
getting floated about there, But

539
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,440
I was thinking, you know, how 
much game time is he going to 

540
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,280
get when there's the strikers 
like Kramerich in the fray? 

541
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,720
So start. 
Start in the Bundesliga, Yeah, I

542
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,240
think, I think the talk was they
were they were more using mostly

543
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,920
going to be and then in the end 
of 20 series, I think that was 

544
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,480
kind of what we heard getting 
floated about. 

545
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,800
So yeah, I mean hopefully does 
get moved because he is really 

546
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,560
at the point in his career we 
should be getting first team. 

547
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,680
Football, you're good enough and
he's good enough. 

548
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,240
Well, he is good enough and you 
know, he last season or even 

549
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,880
early that season, he was handed
by a lot of injury sort of stuff

550
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,000
going on. 
It is time he should be kacking 

551
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,200
on. 
He's been one of our hottest 

552
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,640
prospects for a while that we 
said one of the previous pods 

553
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,160
when he went to Arsenal Villa, 
he kind of went down South. 

554
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,440
This was a similar hype to the 
week Gilmore that So that's, you

555
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,360
know, that's the level a guy, 
you know, we should really be 

556
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:17,600
hoping for. 
You know, he's only just pushing

557
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,600
into his 20s. 
But like, yeah, it'd be good to 

558
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,720
see him actually, because men's 
football. 

559
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,520
Yeah, because because he's, he's
been doing really well all the 

560
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:27,600
time that he's been in the youth
teams. 

561
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,000
Aston Villa where to the point, 
all Aston Villa fans have been 

562
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,880
taken, you know, talking about 
when's he going to play, when's 

563
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,880
he going to play, Should be the 
first team that's not happened. 

564
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,240
He's he's. 
Scotland fan, you know we've not

565
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,400
been blessed with strikers so 
when you see a guy coming who 

566
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,120
that's doing your desperate 
desperate why is he not getting 

567
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,480
game time out and he. 
Scored, he scored a hat trick in

568
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,040
the UEFA Youth League this 
season as well. 

569
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:53,360
So he is clinical and hopefully 
he can show that in a league 

570
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,760
where where it's first team 
football and and then kick on 

571
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,920
from there obviously. 
Yeah, exactly right. 

572
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,640
OK, enough of the Scotland boys 
will get on to sort of league 

573
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,560
details now starting with 
Hearts. 

574
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,040
We'll work our way down from the
top. 

575
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,720
They've been getting the 
business done quite early, 

576
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:15,640
bringing in Geordie Altena and 
is it from, well you right back 

577
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,880
1.4 million, Volvic, Well, 
absolutely no one near about 

578
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,280
that one, €1.2 million. 
I think that was one that they 

579
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,760
were speaking about for a week 
while, wasn't it? 

580
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,680
They also brought an Islam 
Cheznikov right winger on the 

581
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:36,800
fee and then Ugandan Rogers Mato
from Massudo inside Nevada. 

582
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,600
That was just a loan. 
That was a mark. 

583
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,280
Leonard as well. 
Mark Leonard two, sorry, yeah. 

584
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,120
Is it the option for loan for 
Rogers Mato? 

585
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,360
Is that not? 
Not so no, no they they 

586
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,080
announced them on a pre contract
and then. 

587
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,760
Like in the. 
Middle of January and then I 

588
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,200
think they got them on loan 
until the end of the season and 

589
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,480
then obviously it will become 
permanent in the summer. 

590
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:58,960
Sorry. 
And that's why I was trying to 

591
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,600
work my way to. 
But I can remember because what 

592
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,680
happened was they announced a 
pre contract and then I believe 

593
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,200
it was an MLS club with some 
description, came in to Vidar 

594
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,360
and put in a transfer request 
from not a transfer request, but

595
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,440
you know, the North offer. 
And suddenly it was a, you know,

596
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,840
it was all open air because 
you'd had this pre contract, 

597
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,040
same heart as allegedly. 
And suddenly, you know, Vidar 

598
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,040
looking to sell them. 
So yeah, but end up getting 

599
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,120
their man in a roundabout way. 
And then he said Leonard as 

600
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,760
well, looks like a good, bad 
business bringing him back to 

601
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,320
Tyne Castle. 
Obviously was there as a 

602
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,800
youngster and then he was 
thought off quite highly. 

603
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,360
Birmingham, you know, I think 
when you were talking about 

604
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,320
their guy for. 
So I tapping on for a Scotland 

605
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,360
call up at some point. 
And then he seems to have fallen

606
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,960
in a favor. 
But he's ended up at Tyne Castle

607
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,760
and the hunt for a title. 
So, yeah, recruits. 

608
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,400
Well, what do we think there? 
I think Mark Clendard could be 

609
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,760
an absolutely massive sign and 
I've seen what he can do. 

610
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:58,200
I don't think many fans have 
watched the much at Birmingham 

611
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,560
or Northampton. 
When he was at Northampton, I 

612
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,680
think that was at the same time 
Kieran Bowie was there as well. 

613
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,920
Yeah. 
So yeah, he's he's phenomenal. 

614
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,800
I think he could be a really big
sign and I think you saw 

615
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,440
glimpses of that in the Celtic 
game. 

616
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,040
The to to Celtic game dropped. 
Him straight into the starting 

617
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,360
lineup, Yeah, he sort of 
strolled it. 

618
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,840
Yeah, I think he was one of the 
best players on the pitch. 

619
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,760
You know, we'll see what he's 
like in the in the coming weeks 

620
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,600
obviously as well, but I think 
that's a massive sign in Geordie

621
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,400
Altena. 
Again, great signing. 

622
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,080
You know, maybe a bit late in 
the in the fillback department. 

623
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,600
They go out and they get one 
early in the window as well. 

624
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,560
And like I said, Rogers matter. 
They were getting quoted for I 

625
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,480
think 1.5 million for him. 
They went no, not doing it. 

626
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,600
I'll just sign a pre contract. 
And then obviously they've given

627
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:45,760
him a smaller loan fee and he's 
came straight away to to kind of

628
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,640
ease the injury that that 
Jacques Cliff has for the next 

629
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,000
couple weeks along with Kibori 
and and obviously Claudio Braga.

630
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,760
So I think they're they've 
recruited really well. 

631
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,960
I think they've shown intent and
I'd say that they've probably 

632
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,480
done the best business of the 
window, maybe only behind 

633
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,960
Rangers. 
They also have signed Josh 

634
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,680
Mcpaic on a pre contract. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

635
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:09,760
That was way back. 
Yeah. 

636
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,320
I mean, yeah. 
But it's good. 

637
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,240
It has been good business for 
Hearts because there was they 

638
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,600
were always going to be tested 
this window with, you know, it 

639
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,960
was a talk of if they're still 
in the title race now they'd 

640
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,320
have to have a good giant window
just ensure they had the ground 

641
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,800
run into, you know, the final 
straight to the season. 

642
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,240
And they have been Hanford with 
a couple injuries, Cami Devlin 

643
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,080
and Shanglin. 
They're absolutely key men to 

644
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,960
what they've been doing at 
Tynecastle and and their absence

645
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,920
on those gaps was going to be 
hard. 

646
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,520
But like you said, I mean, 
across the board, you know, 

647
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,400
brain in guys like that. 
Mato, Ugandan international 

648
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,360
scored the AFCON. 
You've got George Del Tanner as 

649
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,880
well. 
And then, you know, Leonard 

650
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,720
looks like they've done well and
you know, these other guys are 

651
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:53,720
injured. 
Welcome back. 

652
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,720
So I think like put some in a 
good possession going into the 

653
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,440
final stretch. 
Just got to see how that plays 

654
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,200
out. 
Points at Mountain tonight. 

655
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,240
So we'll have to find out what 
happens there to see if they 

656
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,760
extend their lead at the top. 
Now coming down a little bit, 

657
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,680
Niall, you're on with us as our 
Celtic informant. 

658
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,360
Lots of deadline day business 
went on at Parkhead. 

659
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,120
Obviously he got the Thomas 
Schvanchiera. 

660
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,000
Fun shit I funshot. 
Enough. 

661
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,880
That would do. 
Yeah, he came in quite early on 

662
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,560
on from Gladbach, got an 
assessed in his opening game. 

663
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,960
He's looked like probably a pack
of the bunch in terms of what 

664
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,680
you brought in, but talk us 
through those are the guy you 

665
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:39,840
brought in, obviously 4-5 ones 
in total, yeah. 

666
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,680
Yeah, but they start no money, 
no money spent. 

667
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,600
I'm presuming there's probably a
couple of loan fees in there. 

668
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,520
But yeah, Shank, Kinshana, Shank
that. 

669
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,720
He's probably the packet a 
bunch. 

670
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,960
However, I'll hold and place 
that right back. 

671
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,440
I'm not sure if many listeners 
have watched, but he's been 

672
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:05,520
decent. 
A junior Adamo from Freiburg had

673
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,120
a promising start to his career,
broke through and Switzerland 

674
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:14,159
and then moved to Salzburg and 
Austria who unknown to produce 

675
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:17,480
good talent. 
Benjamin Alpha alone from 

676
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,040
Brentford. 
I'm not sure why. 

677
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,040
I don't really get the the point
in that, just developing 

678
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:30,800
somebody else's player, but a 
Joe Mavuku from Laurent, he's 

679
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,639
probably the one who's had the 
most controversy about him, was 

680
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:41,600
going to sign a deal with about 
£3,000,000 and he's medical. 

681
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,840
It flagged up that he has heart 
problems. 

682
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:50,320
So so take last minute, we 
negotiated to deal to a loan to 

683
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,920
buy. 
So All in all, I think there's 

684
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,080
three loan to buy's in there and
two straight out loans. 

685
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,600
I mean, you said earlier you 
kind of thought, I mean, there's

686
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,080
two lines of thinking about that
when you go and they don't want 

687
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,160
to spend back because they know 
they've not got a permanent 

688
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,040
manager. 
O'Neill won't be there past this

689
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,360
summer. 
So you kind of want to give that

690
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,440
money to the new guy coming in. 
But at the same time you're 

691
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,960
saying, well, you know, I've 
Celtic, if you know Celtic spend

692
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,880
12 million on a player. 
I'm just blocking numbers out 

693
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,600
there here. 
They spend 12 million on a 

694
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,560
player and the Scottish Premier 
League, a guy of that caliber is

695
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,400
going to do the job. 
So the manager coming in, you 

696
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,480
know, should be happy to see a 
guy that's hopefully done a job 

697
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,080
for you over the, you know, the 
tail end of the season and then 

698
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,840
he can pack up with that and 
going to the next. 

699
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,040
Yeah, I mean, for me, I think 
Benjamin Arthur is the weirdest 

700
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,560
one at the bunch when you've got
a player like Stephen Welsh. 

701
00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:40,000
What's that? 
Obviously, yeah. 

702
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,480
He's gone back to Motherwell. 
Yeah, first half the season. 

703
00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:48,040
Yeah, after, after signing 
Benjamin Arthur, you reload out 

704
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,800
Stephen Welsh, the Motherwell 
her, you know, they're not far 

705
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,200
off Celtic, I'm telling you, 
they're, I think they're four 

706
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,720
points behind, you know. 
Motherwell fans are very happy 

707
00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:59,600
with that. 
So yeah, Motherwell, I mean, I 

708
00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:01,520
guess it keeps on playing. 
I suppose if he's not going to 

709
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,720
be playing, maybe Celtic are 
looking next season going, you 

710
00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:05,440
know, where we could be a guy we
rely on. 

711
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,560
So let's just keep Motherwell. 
But he's doing good things, he's

712
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,400
developing, he's found 
somewhere, he's playing good 

713
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,560
football and hopefully, I mean, 
you never know, Gentians, 

714
00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:17,160
Motherwell fans will hate me for
saying this, but that could be a

715
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,920
manager. 
Celtic a look at next season, 

716
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,040
I'm sure if he was coming in to 
say like and Stephen Welsh was 

717
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,120
already there, you know, that's 
I mean, that's our conversation 

718
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,320
for a different day. 
And then one we touched already 

719
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,240
is there's a potential for fee 
agent Oxley Chamberlain coming 

720
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:35,480
in as a late signing. 
What are your thoughts on that? 

721
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,120
I'd be I'd be happy with that 
because I know he's not really 

722
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:44,120
played since May when he was 
released from the heat task, but

723
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,600
he's been training with Arsenal 
and I believe I deal was in the 

724
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,680
pipeline from Arteta because he 
oversee thinks he's good enough 

725
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,680
to be entering the squad. 
But I think you'd be a good 

726
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,080
option. 
I believe personally that I 

727
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,280
think you'd be a better option 
off the bench and like me, Cohen

728
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,160
or Paolo Bernardo, who in my 
opinion haven't been updated 

729
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,760
this season. 
So not as I say, and I can I can

730
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:14,000
get behind and it's not really a
panic by Ida Kelechi and actual 

731
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,720
enough. 
He was just a complete panicked 

732
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:21,600
by because they couldn't get a 
striker in but I and obviously 

733
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:26,240
Martin the new rate some. 
So this may be this could be 

734
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:29,160
biased, but whatever Martin 
O'Neill thinks, it gets my fuel 

735
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,440
back. 
Fair. 

736
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:35,760
I mean like as an experienced 
player come into the squad, I 

737
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,320
mean on paper it looks a good 
signing, but it's just one of 

738
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,720
these ones. 
You do really have to watch it 

739
00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:43,320
play out when the time comes. 
So yeah, it's not happened yet. 

740
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,840
So watch the space on that one. 
Yeah. 

741
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:50,440
And then obviously bad Celtic 
almost sold on then almost sell.

742
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:55,120
But RNA Angles bottom Forest 
tested the result for 25,000,000

743
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,720
bed when Celtic not back, which 
I mean, I guess the board don't 

744
00:37:59,720 --> 00:38:03,160
want to be seen to sell and it 
was a board's decision around 

745
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,160
and they don't be seen to sell 
on their best assets. 

746
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,480
But that is an incredible fee 
for a guy that you could maybe 

747
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,680
question whether. 
Yeah, exactly. 

748
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,400
You bought them for 11,000,000 
in August and yeah. 

749
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,040
Yeah, so I mean, that's crazy, 
yeah, especially for the 

750
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,080
Scottish parent league. 
I don't think apart from we're 

751
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,520
just talking about beforehand 
guillotine for 25 now. 

752
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,640
And I think maybe Calvin Bassey 
went for around a bit of 20 mark

753
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:31,560
and then you had Matt Riley 30. 
The big numbers like this don't 

754
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,360
appear every too often, you 
know. 

755
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,680
So it's it's you know, fair 
plated thumb first time that 

756
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,800
down question, you know, whether
or not that was the best 

757
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,040
decision in just we're going to 
try and get freeze last ones as 

758
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,800
quick as possible. 
Rangers the the bad guys coming 

759
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,680
in where Ryan Nadre for 5.5 
million euros. 

760
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:57,680
They also had Todd romance from 
Westerlo and is a torchy Chewani

761
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,840
from Stringgraz. 
I hate getting names wrong, but 

762
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,680
yeah. 
In fact, Romans and Chikwani 

763
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,960
were announced with Andres Scoff
Olson. 

764
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,840
He came on more from Wolfsburg. 
They sort of. 

765
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,040
Did that's a master fan? 
Triple is just lone, but yeah, 

766
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,000
back player, experienced 
international with Denmark as 

767
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,480
well. 
So I mean, Rangers doing well to

768
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,040
sort of recruit there because I 
mean, they're all in. 

769
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,560
As I said before, I actually 
felt between Celtic and Rangers 

770
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:25,880
and you're going to hit me for 
this nail. 

771
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,080
I felt Rangers were the ones 
showing more promise of catching

772
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,880
Hearts. 
Oh, not even close. 

773
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,880
Yeah, I mean, well, they're on 
the same points, but you know, 

774
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,680
in terms like what we're seeing,
Rangers just seem to be doing a 

775
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,160
lot the loot Canmore convinced 
on the path. 

776
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,800
I think the fans are sort of on 
a better place, whereas, you 

777
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,160
know, said they're, you know, 
loggerheads fans, boards, 

778
00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:49,280
managers trying to bring in 
players and he's joking about in

779
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,080
press conference but not getting
signings. 

780
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,720
Meanwhile, Rangers are 
mechanical those deals done 

781
00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:56,000
earlier apart from the Ryan and 
the daily 1. 

782
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,800
So, yeah, I mean, so we can. 
So we can not too bad. 

783
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,560
I mean, obviously, yeah. 
Scott Scott Olson's a massive 

784
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,400
sign and I'm not too familiar 
with the with other ones, but 

785
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,520
after some digging they look 
decent signings. 

786
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:11,560
Obviously you'll have to wait 
the. 

787
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,600
Took took when he is, it usually
got a red card against Celtic a 

788
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,560
season for still that's an ego 
power. 

789
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,360
Yeah, they'll sent off, sent off
at Celtic Park. 

790
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,760
So there's a there's a start for
you. 

791
00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:28,960
So he's already loved the 
Rangers, I'm sure. 

792
00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:30,920
Pretty much. 
He's probably already seen them.

793
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,920
Yeah, I mean, I mean, big money 
spent really well, not for 

794
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:40,400
Rangers, but decently sized 
figures for for those three. 

795
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,280
And then Scovels and we 
mentioned previously big 

796
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,920
players. 
I wouldn't say Rangers have been

797
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,280
thrown about that sort of money 
recently. 

798
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,680
So yeah, exactly. 
Or like, you know, I mean, I 

799
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,880
think when you look at not 
enables the guys, they're not I 

800
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,480
mean they're not I don't you 
know, the rain and the address 

801
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,040
on the younger side. 
I mean, it's good. 

802
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,720
I mean Rangers problems been if 
not been invested in the right 

803
00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:02,640
way and guys are going to retain
value or increase and this is a 

804
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,600
bit more shrewd business from 
them. 

805
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,920
If you could call our. 
Back fees for players and wages 

806
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,200
who age we didn't really on the 
side. 

807
00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:13,680
Exactly. 
Yeah, But Celtic, we're always 

808
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,360
good at that. 
And it almost seems like that's 

809
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,640
sort of flipped in the last year
or so. 

810
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,840
Just OK. 
Well, Ralph, through HEBS, I 

811
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:25,760
mean like you said, they had own
Elding from Sliegel Rovers, the 

812
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,880
19 year old who got twelve goals
and four assists last season in 

813
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,800
their league. 
They brought men for 400K, so it

814
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,160
doesn't look too bad that 
business. 

815
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:40,800
They got Ante Suto from Slavin 
Balupo striker on our striker, 

816
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,760
so really doing. 
I mean they lost, they sent out 

817
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,320
collegial known, they've brought
on these two strikers here. 

818
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:51,600
They spent €550,000 on him. 
You had four goals and five 

819
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,400
assessed in the creation top 
fight this season. 

820
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,600
Pass lack came in from Bochum, 
former Prussia Dortmund boy feel

821
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,440
back. 
And then like you mentioned 

822
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:06,160
there, I found a couple of 
loonies and Gran Garan gar from 

823
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,480
Copenhagen maybe butchered that 
one again, sorry. 

824
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,320
And then Kai Andrews and scarlet
from spars yeah, I mean, I did 

825
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,240
actually reach out to a spars 
fan I know. 

826
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:18,360
And the I mean, they seemed 
pretty happy, but I mean, 

827
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,840
obviously they feel like they've
sort of earlier part of the 

828
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:27,160
season could have gone better. 
The are touching distance from 

829
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,800
Motherwell to be really have 
aspirations on catching them. 

830
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,200
And you know, I think she should
actually they lost Junior Hoiler

831
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,640
as well, which they've kind of 
they've lost guys there and they

832
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,560
have this do seem to do seem to 
recruit OK, especially bringing 

833
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,440
in the strikers. 
And yeah, and they have sort of 

834
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,840
reinforced at the back with it, 
you know, the center half and 

835
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,760
past lack because they actually 
they've not scored too far off. 

836
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,880
I think they're pretty someone 
in terms of goal scored to 

837
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,080
Motherwell, but where they've 
not matched them as goals 

838
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,400
conceded, they've got some like 
10 more goals conceded. 

839
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,720
And that really is the seven 
point gap right there. 

840
00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:05,520
It's the goals of land. 
So the dumbbell to recruit 

841
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,160
helps. 
Fans have spoke to seem happy 

842
00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:09,280
with that. 
So yeah. 

843
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,040
Coming up to your team fan 
Aberdeen. 

844
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,920
Tom McIntosh came in on a free 
transfer from Portsmouth. 

845
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,800
He was a guy that was getting 
tapped for a Scotland Co-op and 

846
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,160
not to in the recent past. 
So yeah, not too bad. 

847
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,120
Yeah, for one. 21 International 
did very well. 

848
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,160
I have to see. 
I think that's just one that 

849
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,120
wait and see see how he does. 
Yeah. 

850
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:31,280
And then yeah, Liam Morrison was
another looney, a guy that I've 

851
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,520
kind of been tapping for 
Scotland call, but he seems to 

852
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:39,480
on a favorite QPR but alone 
Aberdeen, you know, for the kick

853
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,120
on and the second-half of the 
season and really get their game

854
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,520
together. 
He's potentially up, you know, a

855
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,000
spot in the Scotland World Cup 
squad. 

856
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,280
So I think that I think he maybe
I just spoke about that and his 

857
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:51,480
ambitions. 
I'm not sure. 

858
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,560
Yeah, he did. 
I think obviously him being at 

859
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,760
Bayern Munich before there was 
such high hopes for him, Yeah, I

860
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,400
think he does have the 
potential. 

861
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:06,360
Again, not seen too much of them
still being down in England. 

862
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,760
Yeah, still young. 
So him and Lyle Cameron, I think

863
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,520
both have come with the with the
World Cup in the back of their 

864
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,880
mind trying to get as much game 
time while Cameron is barely 

865
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,520
getting any Rangers. 
And they kind of see Aberdeen as

866
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,360
as an opportunity to to show off
what they can do to Steve Clark 

867
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,080
if he's if he's watching. 
Yeah. 

868
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,960
And then you said to me, the 
sort of biggest one you're 

869
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:32,600
excited about was Dennis Geiger 
on loan or Geiger from on loan 

870
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,920
from Hoffenheim? 
Yeah, I think he could be a 

871
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,360
really good one. 
He's got Bundesliga experience. 

872
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,640
I think we only got him because 
of Lutz Fansteel, our sporting 

873
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,200
director. 
Obviously he's got ties to 

874
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,200
Bundesliga and I think he could 
be a really good one. 

875
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,120
He played at Hoffenheim, played 
against, you know, top players 

876
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,720
like Lauren Verts. 
So hopefully, fingers crossed he

877
00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:57,000
can come in and screw and stroll
it. 

878
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:01,040
Obviously we lost a few players.
Leighton Clarkson is is the main

879
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,680
one for me. 
Dante, Paul VAR as well to to 

880
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,160
Louis and the MLS. 
But yeah, Leighton Clarkson, 

881
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:11,160
he'll go down as as an Aberdeen 
legend probably because of how 

882
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,840
few times we've won the Scottish
Cup and he was in that squad. 

883
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,360
So both of them will be 
remembered fondly. 

884
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,280
Yeah, I think we've had a decent
window. 

885
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:24,720
Not too shabby, but I'm not that
hopeful for the second-half of 

886
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:28,200
the team, I'll be honest. 
I mean, you look at the Aberdeen

887
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,320
team though, you say there's a 
plant, you know there's a good 

888
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,880
base here, you know they've got 
guys they've brought in there, 

889
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,280
seem to recruit, not too bad. 
Then you did you watch the 

890
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,840
Kilmarnock game to. 
Me. 

891
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,880
Yeah, Dad. 
Well, I didn't buy like I saw 

892
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,720
the score, but yeah, what I'm 
saying is the bar is pretty low.

893
00:45:43,720 --> 00:45:47,240
We like Aberdeen in terms of 
improving, not I mean like. 

894
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,920
I mean, I think we just keep 
getting further into the whole 

895
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,040
though. 
I mean, as you say, as you say, 

896
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,640
on paper, our squad is 
brilliant. 

897
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,120
It should be in the top six. 
It should be probably where Hibs

898
00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:01,400
are, but that's not happened. 
Oh, she's recalled from from 

899
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:06,160
loan and he's had a permanent 
transfer elsewhere. 

900
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:11,160
And yes, per Carlson also 
recalled from his loan back at 

901
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,480
Lania So. 
These are guys that weren't 

902
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,640
doing anything in the first half
in the season, so. 

903
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,880
I know, but it's. 
On big grade, use Israel. 

904
00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:20,720
Yeah. 
Yeah, I mean, I think just with 

905
00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:24,320
no permanent manager, the way 
that we're playing, I don't have

906
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,200
high hopes. 
We'll see if I'm proven wrong. 

907
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,360
I'd love to be proven wrong. 
Maybe we can retain our Scottish

908
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,200
Cup or something like that, but 
I'm not, I thought. 

909
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,600
That would be something you can 
always hope. 

910
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,360
Underwear. 
We're just touching them. 

911
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,440
Obviously we can be read not 
together in their league 

912
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,000
position. 
They've brought on a striker 

913
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,400
from the Swedish league mayor. 
They got him on a three years 

914
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:50,160
Ethor Bjor golfson. 
So I don't know if that was sort

915
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:55,120
of done pre empt and a potential
departure from Mashwanisi who's 

916
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,680
been like he is. 
I was. 

917
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,040
I mean we talked with Barry go 
on. 

918
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,640
I mean he gets the sort of 
attention because he's Scottish.

919
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,640
I think arguably the most 
informed player in the country 

920
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:10,920
is to under mass money she 
because of you mean seven goals 

921
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,960
and it's like 6 games for club 
and country is crazy. 

922
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,920
They did, you know, like you 
said, Scottish clubs seem to be 

923
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,600
getting a bit of a backbone in 
terms of, you know, when teams 

924
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,520
come and test the resolve 
lowball and they're standing the

925
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,600
ground and saying, you know, 
that's not how we value our 

926
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,080
player. 
And you know, they're not really

927
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,440
recruit too much from that as 
much as you can see. 

928
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:32,960
Motherwell fans can maybe 
correct me on that. 

929
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,240
But you know, I think it. 
Was just. 

930
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,160
Even Welsh, Yeah. 
But. 

931
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,120
I think he's more of a probably 
going to be a backup because I 

932
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,920
don't think a stomach stomach a 
lot. 

933
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:46,760
Yeah. 
I. 

934
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,360
Can never say I can. 
Never, yeah, I don't think he's 

935
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,200
really been fighting. 
So I think that's more of a a 

936
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:56,400
cover, but obviously last when 
you see that Morrow will kind of

937
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,160
front free of like mass when you
say Justin said is very 

938
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,640
interesting. 
They all kind of see me switch 

939
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,240
about and game. 
It's not like I'm having. 

940
00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:08,640
People, sorry, and having people
like Elliot Watt behind them. 

941
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,960
Yeah. 
They've really got a good base 

942
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,640
and it's it's just testament 
that, you know, they've sold 

943
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,280
arguably one of their best 
players, Lennon Miller and they 

944
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,640
still to be honest. 
Imagine. 

945
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,520
Imagine where they could have 
been. 

946
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,000
Yeah, you. 
Know, I know. 

947
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,000
I mean, I mean, and it's good to
see machine system as well 

948
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,800
because this one says that 
Zimbabweans love affair they've 

949
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,360
got for Motherwell. 
Yeah. 

950
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,880
And this tweet, he said if I 
obey Shava, this guy on Twitter,

951
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,160
I got several thousand likes. 
He said I speak for every 

952
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,040
Zimbabwe. 
And when I say we are now all 

953
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,800
fans of Motherwell, we identify.
We identify with your whole 

954
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,640
wellhood, be it Motherwell, 
Fatherwell, Brotherwell, sister.

955
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,680
I'm by mash when you say, fine 
by mash when you say and that's 

956
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,000
why that is brilliant. 
That's just these funny sort of 

957
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,960
things that crop up in Scottish 
football. 

958
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,880
Only Scottish football and only 
Scottish football, yeah, for 

959
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,200
Motherwell it was getting 
flooded with Zimbabwe and stuff 

960
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,320
and I think with Hearts it was 
Kazakhstani stuff. 

961
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,280
I think every single post they 
do now it's like play, play 

962
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:18,640
chestnut golf, play chestnut 
golf. 

963
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,400
And in one of the the posts it 
was Derek McInnes in a pre match

964
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,680
press conference and all the 
comments were saying speak 

965
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:30,560
Kazakh. 
So that's it. 

966
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:31,080
That's it. 
Go. 

967
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,360
Get a dual language. 
Yeah, they need to get a dual 

968
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,880
angle translator. 
And honestly, love for Derek to 

969
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,160
just give it a go and do 
anything in Kazakh. 

970
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,320
That'd be class. 
But no, yeah, these are the nice

971
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,440
things that kind of are Scottish
football. 

972
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,960
It's it's the soul of it. 
Yeah. 

973
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,880
Motherwell in a good position. 
Not many signings, but I don't 

974
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,760
think they need many. 
Yeah. 

975
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,360
Lace you said that airline about
something else, but don't don't 

976
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:02,000
fix if it's not broke and 
Motherwell under Jan Jan asker 

977
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,360
doing absolutely amazing things 
and to fair long may that 

978
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,840
continue because the league 
table is very fun to look at. 

979
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,320
You know, there's a lot going on
a lot of competition. 

980
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,320
Like, I'm just so buzzing to see
how it pans out in the 

981
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,600
second-half of the season. 
I obviously think model where 

982
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,000
we've got an eye on Satan. 
Because we're not. 

983
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:20,480
Because why not? 
Why? 

984
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,880
Because Celtic and Rangers are 
closer and moderable than the 

985
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,520
Hearts. 
Yeah, I'll tell you what, what 

986
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,920
you would have got in the 
bookies for Hearts first, 

987
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,240
Motherwell second. 
At the start of the season I 

988
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:34,680
could have retired with a 1 LB 
coupon. 

989
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,640
No Europe for one of Celtic and 
Rangers, unless they won the cup

990
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,920
that would be. 
Oh, no. 

991
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:44,440
But yeah, I think a couple other
notable signings. 

992
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,760
Scott Wright signing for Dundee.
What do you think of him being 

993
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,240
back in Scotland? 
Saying spear with Dundee Zell 

994
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:59,040
2018 nineteen well a player that
was probably about a touchy 

995
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,320
subject to you for a. 
Yeah, I'm not even. 

996
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,760
Always divided opinion a lot at 
Rangers. 

997
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:11,720
I think it was more leaning 
towards a the more that this 

998
00:51:11,720 --> 00:51:14,920
guy's probably not good enough, 
but at the end of the day, Scott

999
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,800
Wright started more Europa 
League finals and Lionel Messi, 

1000
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,960
so now you go. 
That's a start. 

1001
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,480
Lovely. 
I think, yeah, Ross Kennedy also

1002
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,680
kind of got their their 
chequebooks out because of how 

1003
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,280
badly they're doing this thing. 
Again. 

1004
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,800
Yeah, again. 
Do you feel that you've got a 

1005
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,320
few off the wage bill? 
Yeah, a few off. 

1006
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,840
The wage but but they replaced 
them with Itchak Piazza and Liam

1007
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,960
Polworth. 
I believe that went over the 

1008
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,120
line. 
Former Inverness man, I'm sure 

1009
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,920
that will go well. 
Yeah, in parts of the Highlands.

1010
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,880
So yeah, quite surprised in that
one. 

1011
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:54,120
Obviously he did quite a 
infamous celebration towards 

1012
00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:56,080
county fans at one point as 
well. 

1013
00:51:57,240 --> 00:51:59,160
So yeah, good signings for them.
Yeah. 

1014
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,880
And, and and Livingston also 
made quite an important signing,

1015
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,680
not in the form of a player, but
instead a manager. 

1016
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,760
Marvin Barley, who I believe was
assistant before, stepped up. 

1017
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:12,240
Yeah, he's now the the, you 
know, head lead manager, 

1018
00:52:12,240 --> 00:52:15,520
whatever you want to call it 
with Martindale's kind of it 

1019
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,360
said stepping up. 
Yeah, it's foreign. 

1020
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,240
Director. 
They framed it as him. 

1021
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,960
Yeah, it framed. 
They framed it as him stepping 

1022
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,080
up. 
But I think it is a bit of a 

1023
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:28,040
step back overseeing the club 
operations more than the the the

1024
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:32,240
team itself, because I think I 
saw a stat that was it was a 24 

1025
00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:34,360
game run without a win, which 
is. 

1026
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,280
Yeah, not one since August. 
Incredibly. 

1027
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,880
Bad, Yeah. 
It's just obviously it kind of 

1028
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,520
go on, but you kind of do look 
at and go. 

1029
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,440
Tartandale has become part of 
the identity of Livingston over 

1030
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,320
the last couple of years. 
Yeah, I'm a very. 

1031
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,800
There's a gratitude that a hard 
team, they work hard. 

1032
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,440
You know Eagles right through 
them. 

1033
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:53,240
You know. 
You've heard. 

1034
00:52:53,240 --> 00:52:54,680
That sometimes a question 
though. 

1035
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:55,200
You know what? 
I. 

1036
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,440
Mean you've you've seen the same
tech talk. 

1037
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:05,200
I have no, but like you know he 
has he has been synonymous with 

1038
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,640
Livingston success. 
You know, the way he's played, 

1039
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,240
he's got the most at a small 
budget. 

1040
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,480
I've got them doing things, you 
know, in the league, getting to 

1041
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:13,600
the Premier League, things like 
that. 

1042
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:19,280
And I do think there's a slight 
risk and bringing them badly, 

1043
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,320
you know, in terms of his 
experience. 

1044
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:22,960
I think his last role was 
cleaning the South. 

1045
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,760
So I'll be I mean it. 
Can't get worse than this 

1046
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,440
though, can it? 
Can, but yeah, it just, I'll 

1047
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:30,880
despair. 
It's just one of these ones that

1048
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,040
kind of surprised us. 
It came out of nowhere in terms 

1049
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,320
of the news cycle. 
But yeah, I think I think we 

1050
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,440
have covered everything boys 
good hours or for less than 

1051
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,280
there. 
So I hope you enjoyed that. 

1052
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,920
If there is anyone or anything 
we messed, especially if it's 

1053
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,560
gladly all this, I'm sorry. 
We did try and take as 

1054
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,200
comprehensive notes as possible.
We've tried to pick each other 

1055
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,920
up when we've met something over
the course of the recording. 

1056
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,400
But yeah, it was, you know, it's
been a good one. 

1057
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,800
And like I said, can't wait to 
see how the second-half of the 

1058
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:03,400
season pans out in Scotland as 
well as Scottish boys abroad and

1059
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,840
down South. 
Seen how they're doing in the 

1060
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,120
build up the World Cup? 
Fen pleasure to have you back 

1061
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:09,920
on. 
Cheers mate, thank you. 

1062
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,760
You as well now, nice to chat. 
To you, It's good to meet you 

1063
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,520
mate, nicely nice to get back 
on. 

1064
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,400
Our first one together, so I 
know brilliant. 

1065
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,240
And what is on the next one, 
Cheryl?

