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Listen to the noise. 
Listen to the passion and hand 

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and path. 
Let's jump. 

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Again, let's jump again. 
Oh yes, great, done by the fish.

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Chance the one for Scotland. 
Hello and welcome to another 

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edition of Scots with the Mic. 
We're here today to talk about 

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the Scottish Cup. 
Fantastic weekend of Scottish 

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Cup action and one of the best 
weekends in the football and 

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calendar in my opinion. 
And my name is Ian Mackintosh 

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and joining me for this one 
we've got James Scott. 

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James, how are you again, all? 
Right to get you back. 

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Good to have you back and Adam 
Gorgie talk. 

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Nice to have you back on the 
show. 

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Good. 
To be back on. 

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Good to be back on after 
Saturday as well. 

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I mean we've all this is going 
to be like a like a rehab 

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session for us because we've got
all of our teams are out of the 

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cup, such an early stage. 
So we're going to try and make 

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it as fun as possible and maybe 
try and cheer up our cheer up. 

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Are we thinking, well, anything 
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But we'll make a start on the 
big shock I think of the 

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weekend. 
And that was Hebbs going out the

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Scottish Cup to Dunfermline. 
I think that was one of the ties

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that was predicted to be there 
was going to be an upset, it was

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going to be there or the, you 
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upset. 
East End Park, you know, 10,000 

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fans inside East End Park, 
Championship, Dunfeldon, they 

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were a bit inconsistent in 
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got a good team, champion level 
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Premiership and then had all the
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Adam, what did you make of that 
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I had to take it you, we all, we
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television. 
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over the course of the weekend 
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Dunfermline? 
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a bit on socials and stuff and I
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kind of summed up Hibs, to be 
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long under David Grey this 
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I'd sort of call out early in 
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I felt like there would be a 
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underperform just based on the 
fact that David Gray's got a lot

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of credit in the bank in terms 
obviously, well what achieved as

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a player, but then as a manager 
going on that that really, 

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really good run that they had in
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A but obviously there's still 
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in certain areas. 
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gap for me in terms of David 
Gray and obviously his 

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experience, which is still a 
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So I think like when we look at 
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think personnel wise, like maybe
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tactically as well, just I don't
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in the right manner, that might 
be combined with obviously who 

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was starting. 
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missed certain players. 
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least one of them could have 
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And so she only works in 
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But again, he's been in a little
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He's always good for a goal and 
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you're thinking about the 
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You know, you're dropping down a
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opponents. 
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slightly easier game for him as 
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Then you've got Boyle with his 
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looked to start and yeah, it's 
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as well. 
It'd be maybe good to rotate the

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men obviously with, you know, 
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just rotate the squad. 
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like that going East End Park, 
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back and then let them express 
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So just that, yeah, it felt like
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like how they were performing. 
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them properly was the Derby. 
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complete completely different 
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And how they'll perform in a 
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to to any other game. 
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third time I've seen them there 
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perspective. 
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hand on film and you know, heya,
Neil Lennon master class against

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his old against his old fours, 
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part in the, you know, the 
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they started to go in somehow. 
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perseverance, I suppose, paid 
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And sneaking a really, really 
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I was going to say that it's 
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you'll ever see. 
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and if it was going to be, you 
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completely out of the blue or, 
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to to sell it because it was, 
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game. 
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But what I'm trying to see it 
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clear cut chances. 
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the first half is one that he's 
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He's one-on-one with the 
goalkeeper, MMA, and he's got to

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score when he's one-on-one 
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Yeah, I feel like him as well. 
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playing at his best, it seems to
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these team mates. 
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obviously he's got that about 
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Talisman. 
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everything. 
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chances and things aren't quite 
going well, it seems to like see

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the rest of the team didn't seem
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or anything like that. 
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quite a common theme as well. 
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the game went on, the more 
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They looked and they're more 
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freefall in football. 
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haven't done Feldman, certainly 
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it was starting to play in it 
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But how sort of not great an 
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the football side of things. 
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than Hibs. 
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typical that was going to come. 
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be something like that, 
something scrappy. 

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Maybe it's. 
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I was going to say that's just 
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I mean, we got the ties like 
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Now when you know there's a 
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you do see teams like that get 
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I mean, you've been up at 
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losing 1 now. 
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they were conscious of something
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the Rovers is actually built 
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produce something. 
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a slackness from Habs. 
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times it's on the middle part, 
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miscommunications between 
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just expecting each other to 
take the ball and then ended up 

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at the Ferman player because he 
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reacted to that. 
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was a couple of crosses from I 
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they were just almost aimless 
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nobody. 
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that's happening, you really do,
you just start to think this 

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might be done Ferman's day. 
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moments that maybe won't happen 
once in their usual 

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run-of-the-mill Premier League 
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the course of the night, you 
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be an upset happening here. 
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and players become conscious of 
that and it's not really helpful

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for them managing to grab the 
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and go and get the goal we need.
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with chances. 
I mean, don't fear I won't had a

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couple. 
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have taken them until the 90th 
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bed. 
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a rave, man, but you know they 
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a film. 
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night match, I think if one team
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it was going to be done. 
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So it is, you know, that's a big
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Scottish Cup. 
I just want to point you to one 

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of the articles in our Football 
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about like Hibs falling apart in
general, like because of the 

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season, Like you can see 
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And there's a great new writer 
in our Football Park team called

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Andrew Jeffrey. 
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articles for us now. 
He's he's very good. 

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He's very detailed. 
If you've not read his latest 

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one, it's, you know, after it's 
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read it. 
It's called it's tight until 

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then why Hibernian season 
unravelled long before the 

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Scottish Cup accent and pretty 
much exactly what you're saying 

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there, Adam. 
It's pretty much you know, you, 

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you're spoken about what's 
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pretty much so I think you might
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it's been you pretty much said 
I. 

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Might I might have doubled? 
I might have doubled. 

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I might have dabbled, yeah, but 
it's a bit. 

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It's a brilliant article. 
Nobody's read it. 

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I would recommend having to look
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are a house supporter. 
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with this, then last note. 
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is quite a good read and it's, 
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supporter and you're crying over
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But it's just one of those. 
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And I think you have not had it 
trying to look at it and do so. 

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Yeah, we talked about Dunpel 
wanting it more. 

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James. 
They've not played since the end

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of the year, so they've no last 
game was the fight Derby victory

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over Reprovers. 
They've not played in two weeks 

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and it looks like they wanted it
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Do you think that was just a 
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Do you think it was a case of 
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you think it was just a mix of 
both that was the reason why 

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they went coordinated? 
I mean, games like this, you're 

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quite often see the the war team
wanting it more, especially when

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they're at home, you know, at 
their home ground, they've got 

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their fans behind them. 
It only takes one chance for 

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their supporters to sort of get 
behind them and get on their 

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feet and really create a better 
noise. 

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It's not the same as when you 
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I mean, it was opportunity. 
They went into the box and it 

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was not a straight at the 
goalkeeper play easy save for 

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memes. 
Is it memes and the sex for the 

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part? 
Yeah, You know, a chance like 

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that for the unfair one would 
have probably had people would 

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have been disappointed, but they
would have been. 

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They would have been a rallying 
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mean, Whereas, you know, I think
there was sort of groans from 

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the Hibs end, you know, missing 
such an A chance that they 

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really would expect to put away.
And that mean. 

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But that's just I mean, we 
talked about Hibs season falling

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apart and that's just been 
another another example of that.

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The Scottish Cup is lettered 
with results like this, not just

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this season, but throughout the 
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Like you do see, I mean, 
Dunfermline Habs isn't quite a 

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giant killing as Brewer Rangers,
Hearts, for example, but you do 

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you do see these these things 
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Celtic only be Auchinleck to 
now, but and it sometimes it 

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just does. 
You know, Hibs aren't at it. 

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It takes Dunfermline will know, 
especially been led by Neil 

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Lennon, a guy that's very posh 
that Quentin always spoke about 

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the fact that no one got him up 
for a game more than Neil 

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Lennon. 
And he'll have been getting that

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right into the players all week,
you know, letting them know 

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exactly what's at stake, telling
them to get a hips because the 

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haze could go down if you know, 
chances aren't going the right 

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way for them. 
The fans will. 

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Like we said, they got twitchy. 
They weren't right behind them 

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and then Dunfermline felt like 
they were getting momentum and, 

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you know, had something about 
them. 

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So, you know, but that's just 
what you expect. 

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That's really just what you 
expect. 

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You know, they've been numerous 
games. 

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That was I mean, we're going I 
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to the Rovers game. 
Then I. 

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Yeah. 
But like, that's exactly why I 

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was disappointed with her game 
because I mean, I was up with 

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fan where it's usually on the 
podcast. 

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He's an Aberdeen fan and we both
agreed both teams were poor. 

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It just so happened that 
Aberdeen been the Premier 

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League, then been poor, you 
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over the line. 
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me was that I didn't see that 
fight from the Rovers or, you 

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know, didn't see that the same 
ruthlessness and desire there 

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was, you know, moments. 
But that's what was the 

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difference here. 
That's how you win a cup game 

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and get an upset like that. 
You, you know, you meet them in 

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every aspect of your game. 
And that's not just about 

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quality. 
It's about just being hungry for

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that and willing to put bodies 
in the line for the one. 

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Yeah, I think talking about the 
Rovers as well, I think, I think

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they controlled the first half 
in particular very well. 

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After the goal, I think the 
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all over recovers and it was 
just, no, I was just watching it

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and it wasn't anything like they
were creating loads of clear cut

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chances. 
I just see something was just 

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going to happen in the 1st 10 
minutes and then the goal goes 

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in and you just think, OK, this 
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But I think they got controlled 
quite quickly. 

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They didn't seem to faze them 
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anything that just say, say they
just rolled their sleeves up, 

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right, we're going to go for it 
now, you know, and they got in 

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control of the first half and 
particularly really well, the 

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second-half was I think a very 
scrappy affair. 

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I think it was just going to be 
a case of I think of just seeing

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the game out for Aberdeen and 
even though they did have lots 

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of good clear cut chances, but 
they just couldn't take any of 

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them. 
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think any Championship League 
One club that comes into that 

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game and it's magnitude what 
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that initial storm. 
You know, you're coming up 

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against a team that's on paper 
vastly. 

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You know they put more quality 
than you absolutely for sure You

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know they used to play in a 
higher level play in a certain 

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style of football you're maybe 
not experienced against weekend 

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week out. 
So you really want to just get 

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into the game and get settled 
and get used to the tempo of the

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game and, you know, the all 
position you're up against 

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because it is different. 
And that was that was the 

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disappointing thing about 
conceding so early. 

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Because again, speaking with 
Aberdeen fan and speaking with 

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fan, they felt if they hadn't 
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the they didn't really see that 
changing much of the pattern in 

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the game. 
You know, you know, they were 

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quite poor after they got that 
goal. 

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Like you said. 
I mean, maybe it goes far to say

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we completely controlled the 
half, but. 

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You know we. 
Looked as likely to score as 

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each other. 
It was very scrappy at the gamfi

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could have been sent off 
actually for bringing down. 

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I think it was Dylan Easton or 
Jack. 

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I can't, I can't remember who it
was. 

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So I was at the game. 
So I'm trying to. 

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Remember trying to remember 
faces I. 

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Didn't get a replay of it at the
time. 

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So but yeah, you know, there was
there was moments either end and

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it just there was just a lacking
quality with either side looking

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to finish our chances. 
And yeah, and it was just that 

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was just the case for the Rover.
So we hadn't conceded so early. 

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We might have stood about a 
chance. 

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And I think at the moment I can 
expect that Aberdeen to really 

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take the game by the stuff and I
can just go on and go to go to 

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task. 
But they didn't like you said. 

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And then second-half, it was 
sort of the balance of the game 

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as well. 
No one really had the better of 

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it more than the other. 
Aberdeen did have chances, but I

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think, you know, just similar to
the way their their league 

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season's gone. 
They just don't seem to be 

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making the right decisions all 
the time. 

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The execution's just not there 
and then come full time. 

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I don't really feel like either 
sets is either set of supporters

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were, you know, left anything 
more than disappointed. 

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I mean the Rovers finds good 
reception to the boys for, you 

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know, the dip and the effort was
there. 

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I just you know, like I said, 
there's just stuff over and 

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above that you need to get a one
against a team like that. 

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But the Aberdeen support, I mean
there was quiet as I've ever 

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heard. 
You know, I ground that bag and 

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get a friend said as well. 
You said he'd been a long time, 

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if he has ever heard it, as 
quiet as that aptitaudry. 

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And I kind of just felt like no 
one was really happy. 

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And then Aberdeen obviously in 
the hat for the next for the 

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next round and I'd be kind of 
hoping they could put on a 

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better performance than that 
because they've got Motherwell 

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and the way they've been 
playing, I don't think they'll 

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be scared of Aberdeen one but. 
Yeah, talking about the Rovers 

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away from home, they've not 
scored a goal away from home in 

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five games. 
So scoring goals away from home 

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starts Park They're they're 
doing OK. 

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They don't they don't score a 
barrel of the goals that we did 

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have two games in quick 
concession 5, two games Hamilton

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and then we had a six dill 
against Ross County. 

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But then it's the goals are just
starting to dry up a little bit,

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but especially away from home, 
though five games without go 

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away from home. 
It's not a good sign at all. 

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But hopefully we can get some 
more bodies. 

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And this is like a personal 
plea. 

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I think I I always try and use 
this podcast as a personal plea.

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If we can get a player, I say 
you're going to come in at 

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breakovers, please, please come 
in. 

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Hopefully we can get a body in 
in that department in the next 

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couple of weeks or so. 
Let's go to Tynecastle. 

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Adam, your we, we've been, now 
we've lost, we've, we collected 

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our disappointment. 
Now it's your turn. 

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I think it's only fair. 
Your turn now to talk about what

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happened on Saturday. 
Falkirk progressing and penalty 

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kicks game like what we're 
saying. 

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It was like a nothing first half
but then the second-half just 

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for me as a neutral watching the
game, it was it turned into 

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quite an entertaining football 
match from the second-half into 

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extra time and then the penalty 
kicks. 

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What was your thoughts on? 
I was going to say the 90 

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minutes. 
Would it say the 120 minutes 

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plus the penalty kicks on 
Saturday? 

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Yeah, I think, I think the first
half it was quite like KG. 

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No one was really giving too 
much away. 

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There wasn't like a lot 
happening first half. 

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second-half it started to open 
up a bit, I think to be honest, 

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like on the on the reflection of
the two hours that we played, 

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like Falkirk deserves to win 
annual penalties is obviously 

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5050 and whatever. 
But I think I think it was more 

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a case as time went on. 
I mean, Even so early in the 

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second-half that it kind of 
combined with opening up with 

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the fact that like we were 
trying to put on more aggressive

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players and other players that 
were taken off were actually 

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getting tired or taking knocks 
or coming off. 

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I think like it was starting to 
become evident that the two 

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games we've played when the last
six or seven days before the 

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Falkirk game, majority of them 
had been with 10 men on the 

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pitch. 
You know, albeit they were 

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successful in terms of winning, 
it was starting to look a bit 

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leggy after like an hour and at 
the cup game. 

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So the fact that they managed to
get it to penalties obviously is

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an achievement in itself. 
But then ultimately it's 

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probably done more harm than 
good because you've went to a 

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lot of the penalties and and 
then went out. 

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So yeah, again, can't really 
fault like the fight and stuff 

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like that. 
But this seems like it's may 

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have been one fight too far. 
And then obviously we've had to 

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then bow again from the cop on 
penalties, second cop, second 

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defeat and penalties. 
Positives I suppose would be 

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that obviously now just all 
focus on the league. 

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We're still obviously a 
reasonably large squad which has

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got a decent amount of quality 
in it and then it's not really 

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any disgrace. 
Wasn't a Falkirk team that 

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really should have got something
for Celtic during the week. 

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They've been really well against
Celtic, they've played really 

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well all season, which is why 
they are where they are now. 

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When you consider where they 
were when the Glen first took 

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over. 
And you know what you get with 

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Falkirk, you get people that 
work hard. 

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Again, you talk about the cup 
games. 

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They've got that that good 
mixture, I suppose in cup games 

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where they do have that better 
quality and togetherness, but 

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they also have that that sort of
they're willing to be the what's

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the right? 
We're in the same this the size 

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of the the size of the fighting 
the dog as opposed to that. 

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That sums up Falkirk like 
McGlynn Husdam that way that it 

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probably suits some cup games. 
And obviously they've been 

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rewarded by a nice local Derby 
away Stenhouse Muir, which will 

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be an interesting effect. 
Sure, to be honest, like we'll 

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obviously go and astonish me 
shortly but yeah, well deserved 

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for them from that mass side of 
things. 

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They can't really. 
Obviously it's a shock in some 

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way but in other ways it's not 
in the sense of how I talked 

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about the fact that we are 
running on empty and the fact 

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that Falkirk are 6 in the league
themselves and on Mehta are one 

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of the better teams in the 
country this season so. 

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That's what I was going to bring
up there because we've talked 

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about Motherwell on this podcast
being one of the best 

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footballing teams in the country
this moment, and if not, maybe 

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the best football team in the 
moment. 

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Can we see that Falkirk are 
getting there to that level of 

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how they're playing at 
Motherwell or do you think, do 

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you think when they're not, do 
they still think Motherwell are 

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a little bit far ahead in terms 
of like entertainment and we 

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attack the game so that they 
control the game? 

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I think there's, I think they're
maybe slightly different and how

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they play. 
I think they are both organised 

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and understand what their 
instructions are based on their 

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coach. 
But I think Mcglinn's a bit more

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streetwise in terms of his daily
place. 

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So obviously they do play nice 
football and stuff, but they 

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have that little bit of bait 
about them. 

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Whereas a Motherwell it does 
seem to be a lot more like they 

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are a bit more like a 
Lanarkshire Barcelona. 

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I think, like I said, good in 
terms of like the way they 

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spread about and stuff. 
Don't don't get me wrong, I'm 

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I'm sure like having obviously 
I've been at Far Park when we 

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played them then I was 
obtaining, but I've more what 

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what rings in my head more in 
Motherwell is just how they play

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the ball about. 
Whereas with Falkirk, you do you

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do see that from them, but you 
also see the other side to them 

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as well, which probably 
naturally comes from the fact 

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that they've like organically 
came through the leagues and 

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kept all the players and stuff 
like that. 

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So you need a bit of that to get
to where they are. 

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Whereas Motherwell's obviously 
well establishing the 

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premiership. 
See, I wouldn't quite have them 

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at Motherwell in terms of like, 
I mean, I have, I would say 

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Motherwell are side Hearts. 
Obviously I'd say Motherwell are

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the best in terms like plain 
sight and say Hearts are more 

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rounded as a team, but certainly
the best bike in terms of like 

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putting the ball around and how 
they play. 

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I mean, we spent 10 minutes at 
Far Park in a second-half of me 

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saying to my kids like we kind 
of get the ball from the really 

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I cannot get the ball from and 
could not say that, but any 

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other team in the whole league. 
So yeah, but Falkirk said that 

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what it's true. 
Like they are definitely one of 

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the best performing teams like 
in the country. 

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And when you consider the amount
of players that were in League 

446
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,600
One and some of them were too 
good to be in League 1, and I 

447
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,000
think me and James in particular
know a lot of them, you know, 

448
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,480
from Marley Silver's days and, 
you know, lower league days. 

449
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,320
I mean, Brad Spencer, I said 
when he signed for Falkirk, I 

450
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,680
mean, I think if John Mcglenn 
wasn't the manager at Falkirk, 

451
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:14,000
he would not went to League 1. 
He, he, it was at one point, he 

452
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,320
was going to be going to 
Motherwell at one point and 

453
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:17,960
then. 
It was linked to us at one point

454
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,480
as well. 
And I've always sort of been a 

455
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,120
better admirer of him as well, 
just the way he carries himself 

456
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:23,800
and it gives you a bit of 
everything. 

457
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,400
Like he's so composed. 
You'll have that aggressive side

458
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,160
to him as a leader. 
Yeah. 

459
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,000
I mean the other guys like 
Calvin Mullen and stuff like 

460
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,800
that as well. 
Like I think again, you can just

461
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,760
tell they've got that 
togetherness about them. 

462
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,880
Like Glenn Husdam is is got. 
I know that a club, obviously 

463
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,480
it's that proper club mentality.
Like everybody has the same 

464
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,200
goal. 
There's no like any anyone 

465
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,040
trying to be a hero. 
There's no flashiness about 

466
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,480
them. 
Like they just have all got the 

467
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,200
same purpose and there's. 
No. 

468
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,880
And there's not a premiere. 
There's not like one star 

469
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,200
player, if that makes sense. 
And that's not a bad thing 

470
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,760
because if you have a big name 
clear and a small team, they 

471
00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:01,760
always get the attention because
we used to think of like Simon 

472
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,720
Moe when he was at Ross County, 
for example, he was always the 

473
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,240
star player for them. 
But if you take him out, you can

474
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,160
see what happened to Ross 
County. 

475
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,360
Whereas Paul Kirk, there's no 
real one star player. 

476
00:23:12,360 --> 00:23:14,040
And that's good. 
It's because you've got this 

477
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,480
collector in the building and 
they're working hard as a team. 

478
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,160
Somebody called, I think I 
remember John Baird called that 

479
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,320
when he played for John McGurk. 
Rover. 

480
00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:28,000
He said it was like a well oiled
machine and I think he's done 

481
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,160
that from what he did it Rover. 
He's doing it bulk Greek as 

482
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,280
well, albeit in a much higher 
league as well, which is good to

483
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,600
see. 
I still have a big mile of John 

484
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,840
McGlynn. 
I was to think of a weakness in 

485
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,640
their game that stops them being
elevated a bit more as they do 

486
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,040
lack a wee bit attacking 
quality, like, you know, for 

487
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,040
they lack like a proper, you 
know, like if you put like 

488
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,320
again, like Shankland boy Maz 
when he say or whoever, like if 

489
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,320
they were all, if one of them 
was playing for Falkirk, like 

490
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,760
that would elevate them 
massively. 

491
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,880
So I guess the same way like 
Carty take away Shanklin for 

492
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,600
hearts from as when he say, I 
don't know, maybe the hearts got

493
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,240
maybe a bit more depth forcing 
forward. 

494
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,840
There is, but like still, like 
it's, it's still a fact that 

495
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,760
you've got a goal scorer there. 
It makes all the difference. 

496
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,240
I think Falkirk are there's six 
in the league. 

497
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,400
They know, but that you know, 
it's 23 goals, 22 games, you 

498
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,800
know, so -5 for goal difference,
even though they're in the top 

499
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,120
6. 
So but you can see where the the

500
00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:17,440
weakness is. 
But again, it's that 

501
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,760
organization, that defensive 
resilience, which is how Mcglenn

502
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,200
still manages to get, you know, 
like one, no ones, 2 no ones, 

503
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,000
they shot people out as well. 
And what they did is close and 

504
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,040
they get a draw. 
So that that's the difference 

505
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,040
maker for them is is how 
resolute they are. 

506
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,760
And yeah. 
Yeah. 

507
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,880
Yeah, very good oil, Willow 
Machine I think who I think Tall

508
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,160
could be receiving. 
And let's move on to 

509
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,400
Stenhousemuir. 
We'll go quickly to them. 

510
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,280
I think for me, I think I've 
said this to you James in one of

511
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,920
our group chats that I didn't 
see. 

512
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,240
I've seen the shock happening. 
I've seen Stenhouse mere 

513
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,400
defeating more and I think it's 
scoreline that stand out more. 4

514
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,120
nil. 
A couple of them were those were

515
00:24:58,120 --> 00:24:59,640
set pieces. 
But at the same time they all 

516
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,000
count. 
They all, you know, they all, as

517
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,120
long as it goes to the back of 
the net, they don't care how the

518
00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:09,160
goals are scored. 
Four nil against a team that's, 

519
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,880
you know, in another higher 
league. 

520
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,480
That just shows how good a job 
Gary Naismith and his coaching 

521
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:16,880
staff are doing at Stainhouse 
Mirror. 

522
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,640
Yeah, I mean, like you said, top
League One fighting against a 

523
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,240
team sort of not pulling up 
trees in the championship. 

524
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,160
It's not it's not completely 
unforeseeable that stainhouse 

525
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,360
mirror going to cause an upset 
there and get through, but the 

526
00:25:34,360 --> 00:25:36,280
four now aspect of it's 
incredible. 

527
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,320
I mean the way they chop 
themselves and I just like it as

528
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,920
a just a testament to the work 
they're doing right now. 

529
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,880
I'm interested to see how they 
get on the next round, 

530
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,440
especially given it's a it's a 
Derby. 

531
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,760
You didn't maybe thought that 
playing a team that was 2 

532
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,080
leagues above them might have 
been a step too far, especially 

533
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,320
at that stage in the 
competition, but you never know.

534
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,120
Stan X Mirror, I don't think 
they've got an awful record ends

535
00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:02,040
Falkirk. 
They've definitely beat them a 

536
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,680
few times when they were maybe 
misquoting here, but when 

537
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,880
Falkirk were down in the League 
One. 

538
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,520
Long time long. 
Time ago, but yeah. 

539
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,240
Think if I remember correctly, 
the last time they played in the

540
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,360
cup, certainly in the Scottish 
Cup, I think a Stenhouse mere 

541
00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:19,560
won by four goals to two if I 
remember that correctly. 

542
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,080
So they've definitely got a a 
good record against Falkirk in 

543
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,200
cup competitions. 
So they're interested to see 

544
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,960
what he's what what's going to 
happen in that tie. 

545
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,400
We'll come to the draw in a 
minute. 

546
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,320
Just want to quickly finish 
about Steinhausenmuir, 

547
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,880
particularly about Guyanese in 
particular. 

548
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,640
This is a guy who has managed in
the championship, he's managed 

549
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,280
to Queen of the South Albia. 
That was I think it was about 

550
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,040
5-6 years ago. 
He's done that. 

551
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,440
So he's gone back to League 2. 
You know, he's learnt his trade 

552
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,320
there. 
He's doing such a good job at 

553
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,400
Steinsmuir. 
Are you surprised James, that no

554
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,920
one in the Championship? 
Because we we think about some 

555
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,560
of the teams that have lost 
managers. 

556
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,280
So Ray Throwers have lost their 
manager and Martin have done it 

557
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,480
recently as well. 
Air Dronians for a while. 

558
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,920
Are you surprised? 
Yeah, Ross County as well and 

559
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,880
didn't think about them twice as
well. 

560
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:16,480
Are you surprised, James, that 
Gary Smith has not been, not 

561
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,680
necessarily not left to ask me 
to go to another job, but do you

562
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,240
even think he's been in the 
radar for certain clubs in the 

563
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,080
Championship? 
I mean, I mean, I to be fair, 

564
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:27,360
I'm probably guilty of that as 
well because the Rovers didn't 

565
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:29,240
replace her manager too long 
ago. 

566
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,160
Obviously go do get him right 
now. 

567
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,040
Went and got him from Morton. 
But you know, there's not 

568
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,920
exactly a wealth of options out 
there right now. 

569
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,320
I'd say in Scottish football for
managers, our level. 

570
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,160
I mean, we were kind of thinking
where do we go now as a club 

571
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,000
when we were you sort of looking
about our options and nice my 

572
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,320
force and someone it was on my 
radar at all. 

573
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,520
I don't know if it's because 
it's Stenhouse Mirror and you 

574
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,280
don't associate them with, you 
know, typically been up the top 

575
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,320
of the league and all that's 
maybe an even further reason for

576
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,640
you to, you know, consider why 
they're there and obviously the 

577
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,320
fact that the manager is doing a
good job with them. 

578
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,680
But yeah, I mean, they look like
they could be on the cards to 

579
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,000
what? 
And they'll say I'm hoping if 

580
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,520
they can get automatic 
promotion, they could somehow 

581
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,520
get it for the playoffs. 
And it's just going to you don't

582
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,560
when I see stories like this 
happening. 

583
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,440
Obviously Stenhouse meal haven't
been up this end of the the 

584
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,360
League One doing things like 
this knocking on the door a 

585
00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:29,800
championship in my lifetime. 
So, you know, I'd I'd prefer to 

586
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,920
actually see him stay there and 
see what he can achieve because 

587
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:33,720
it is. 
I don't know. 

588
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,360
I don't like it when teams have 
smaller budgets. 

589
00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:39,840
Just you know, once they get a 
sniff of success, all of a 

590
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,640
sudden people are trying to pull
them apart for their best 

591
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:43,360
pieces. 
So. 

592
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,160
But no good on them. 
Yeah, what? 

593
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,520
Said see, see, see just a random
fault, right. 

594
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,600
What what is the general like as
a like a general consensus for 

595
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,440
Gary Naismith as a manager in 
the world leagues Like you know 

596
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,480
how like John McLennan has 
obviously a lot of respect in 

597
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,000
terms like what he's been before
he went up. 

598
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,880
There's got. 
I know Ganis before obviously 

599
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,880
been the same like as John 
Mclenn given what he done, but 

600
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,040
like, you know what I'm getting 
at like is, is he one of the 

601
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,400
managers people look at in the 
lower leads and go he's really 

602
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,120
good, He's everything he's done 
so far has. 

603
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,680
Been, I think, I think just for 
my benefit, I really like what 

604
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,600
he's doing at Stan asmere. 
I think the only thing that 

605
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,800
might be like like what's the 
word to? 

606
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,560
I can see it like a because 
Queen of the South. 

607
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,320
He did a decent job, but towards
the end it just started fading a

608
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,360
little bit. 
You know, they weren't really, 

609
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,560
they should have been there what
they were, you know, gotta 

610
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,920
remember that Stephen Dobie 
team, I think he scored forty 

611
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,680
goals in one season and he was 
Gary Naismith was the manager at

612
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,400
the time and but they were not 
doing anywhere near what they 

613
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,480
should have been doing. 
So I think just that, just that 

614
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,800
record, that being himself 
towards the end is probably 

615
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,080
what's hindering them from like 
getting a job in the 

616
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,800
championship. 
But I certainly think he's doing

617
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,080
a great job and he did a great 
job at East Fife where he 

618
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,560
started his career off, You 
know, he won the, I think if I 

619
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,040
remember correctly, he won the 
League Two title and then a few 

620
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,000
months later he became the queen
of itself manager. 

621
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,240
So that's how quick he became 
like involved in full time 

622
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,320
football. 
It'll be interesting because 

623
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,520
obviously he had sort of a 
couple of mediocre spells with 

624
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,440
like Edinburgh City and Lisa 
Queen as yes, it does well as 

625
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,120
finish me and then whatever the 
next move is, say it was like a 

626
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,920
Championship club and then again
does well. 

627
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,080
I mean, he's got terms obviously
playing career, like he's got 

628
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,600
top level, like top level 
Scotland, top level England. 

629
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,400
So like there's no doubt like 
from experience on the pitch, 

630
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:40,040
like he knows everything, but 
it's more about if he can just 

631
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,760
make that gradual progress. 
You do wonder, like could you 

632
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,480
see him like in the top flight 
in Scotland at some point and 

633
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,040
tell you that probably just an 
interesting 1. 

634
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,400
He seems to be doing AI think 
you're right, James. 

635
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,920
It's what you'd more be want to 
see him continuous tennis 

636
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,120
really. 
Who can he take them? 

637
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,440
Where can he take them? 
Like can you take them as far as

638
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,640
he can and then like go 
somewhere else is what I'm 

639
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,680
trying to say. 
More like that. 

640
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,720
Instead it let you see maybe 
starting well and then Peter and

641
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,760
off or or whatever. 
But I'm like you, yes, finish 

642
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:06,360
me. 
You're getting up to 

643
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,680
championships. 
Like couldn't even tell you if 

644
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,920
like when or how close they've 
been to there and when it last 

645
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,000
was. 
So yeah, I suppose just 

646
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,360
hopefully continues the good 
work there. 

647
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,600
Exactly. 
I think he needs to stay there 

648
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,360
for a little while longer just 
for my benefit, just so I can 

649
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,080
see. 
I like seeing good managers do 

650
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,800
good jobs at clubs. 
And I do like Stenhousemuir as a

651
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,120
football club. 
You know, if it's I've been able

652
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,000
to do a few times, you always 
get treated well. 

653
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,480
It will go be from like the 
start and things and you don't 

654
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,600
really get that from like 
certain clubs, you know, in 

655
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,960
certain places. 
So yeah, just so it's good to 

656
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,400
see Stenhousemuir for me like in
this position and hopefully 

657
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,160
maybe one day they'll be in the 
Championship team alongside the 

658
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,800
guns with you know, what we've 
got in the Championship at the 

659
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,800
moment. 
But that's for another day. 

660
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,480
So hopes but they've got a good 
draw in the news, man. 

661
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,760
We'll come to the draw in just 
one SEC. 

662
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,520
We'll just go and talk about 
aquatic Talbot. 

663
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,040
The dream is over. 
But then But what a cup to that 

664
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,760
was though. 
I mean, that's the stuff of 

665
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:10,160
fairy tales and and like the 
West of Scotland giants coming 

666
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,160
against D Giants and Scottish 
football. 

667
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,240
Adam, imagine you watch some of 
the game or all the game. 

668
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,240
They could be proud of how they 
performed over 90 minutes 

669
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,280
against Celtic, can't they? 
Definitely I've got first hand 

670
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,720
experience with Auckland like 
Talbot or like in a cup guys and

671
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,360
there doesn't matter the levels 
that you go down the arcade of 

672
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,680
them. 
So it's superstars in their own 

673
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,240
right in terms of like what 
they've achieved at their level.

674
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,320
So like, I know obviously start 
golfing and quality and you 

675
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,360
know, money or whatever that is.
But I think based I think 

676
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,400
everyone knows based on the team
said that we're going to put out

677
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,760
and based on the squad that 
Celtic have at the moment, there

678
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,800
wasn't there wasn't going to be 
any Harmons getting dished out 

679
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,880
talking like and they wouldn't 
let it happen anyway, certainly 

680
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,960
without putting up a fight. 
And I think they actually 

681
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,200
performed really well to be 
honest. 

682
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,920
And they stopped Celtic getting 
a shot on target for like the 

683
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,280
first 35 minutes or something 
like that. 

684
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,040
So Celtic weren't causing them 
any great amount of problems. 

685
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,440
First half just turned to a 
little bit second-half. 

686
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,440
But I've made a few changes. 
But again, it wasn't like back 

687
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,800
to the wall stuff for me like it
was I've seen Celtic teams in 

688
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,200
the past like batter teams that 
have that are that are of a 

689
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,480
higher standard than than open 
lick and the cup ties. 

690
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,400
You know, if it's like say a 
League One team or whatever. 

691
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:33,480
But yeah, no disgrace stalking 
like 2 nil late on could easily 

692
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,400
be just one nil. 
Yeah, could have been anything 

693
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:37,960
based on that such a low score 
line. 

694
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,720
And I think if anything, it just
probably what we'll talk about 

695
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,200
later on in terms like the draw,
who Celtics got next and then, 

696
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,200
you know, transfers and whatever
else we talk about. 

697
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,760
But I think it just again, just 
reeks of how poor the 

698
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,320
recruitment as it's Celtic and 
the severe lack of depth they've

699
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:54,320
got. 
I mean, they should be able to 

700
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,040
put a second string string that 
should put maybe like 4 or 5 

701
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,600
past Doc and like, but they made
that look very difficult. 

702
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,640
But again, the thing that kind 
of art may we bit watching the 

703
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,440
game was I was actually a bit 
frustrated. 

704
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,760
That was like Kelly. 
Yeah, I was going. 

705
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,480
To say that like I hate, like 
there's a magic of the coppice 

706
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,360
to go somewhere like Auchen 
Lake, like, well, that's the IT 

707
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,360
gives it one, it gives them the 
advantage. 

708
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,320
But again, local communities 
support and stuff. 

709
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,760
How great is it to for them to 
see somebody like Celtic turn 

710
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,239
up, you know, and they are and 
they are sort of many are, you 

711
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,600
know, that they've got and like 
put it, put it to them in their 

712
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,360
own backyard, But you couldn't 
even do that. 

713
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,600
Again. 
They go to Kelly on the on the 

714
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,800
on the Fiji wide open stadium 
and stuff like that. 

715
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,560
Like, I don't know, I just feel 
like sometimes it takes away 

716
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,320
the, you know, the the chance 
they are upset they didn't have 

717
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,080
one. 
And of course the scoring was 

718
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,679
was close, but feel it takes 
away an element of that, maybe 

719
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,639
even hostility of having to go 
ilk and like in that small set 

720
00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:49,080
and then not have a big support 
there. 

721
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,600
And the North tightness of it 
and the, you know, the the 

722
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,639
muddying around and sort of the 
lower league like way of playing

723
00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:58,360
and and haven't handled that. 
It kind of disappeared me, but 

724
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,000
because it was a Premier League 
ground. 

725
00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:01,320
Yeah, because I think you got to
think. 

726
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,920
About as well like Celtic play 
at Rugby Park usually on average

727
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,000
twice a season. 
You know I mean it's a place or 

728
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,040
used to going. 
It's not quite the same as 

729
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,760
rocking up this be small ground 
in the east of Scotland. 

730
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,400
There's barely hot war. 
I'm I'm sure they've got hot 

731
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:17,760
war. 
I mean I'm involving in places 

732
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,200
where you have to run the top 
for a while for the hot water 

733
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,200
comes through. 
You know it's I'm sure it's not 

734
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,800
a glamorous little changing room
they've got maybe as maybe 

735
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,040
dinner with the service. 
But exactly what you mean, you 

736
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:33,240
know, the rustic nature of that 
does actually it just it sets a 

737
00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:37,880
mood and it does give or can 
like something and they just I 

738
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,840
feel sorry for them. 
They said it was totally out 

739
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,800
there, just their control 
decision, didn't they? 

740
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,120
Yeah. 
And I think I think they did not

741
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,720
mean complete a bit in the sense
about the fact that they've 

742
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:49,320
played Scotch Cup ties obviously
or collect plenty of times in 

743
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,600
the past. 
And it's just because it. 

744
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,600
Was played, you know that you 
played, you played Hearts and 

745
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,080
you know, a couple of times. 
It's just like, again, it's sort

746
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,400
of bending the rules just 
because it's a certain team and 

747
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,960
and or whatever the reasoning. 
That probably is the reasoning, 

748
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,640
but like, so, yeah, I just think
it takes away that that that 

749
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,680
certain magic element of the 
cup. 

750
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,560
Me see all the time down South. 
Don't you like you see, you see 

751
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,880
like nationally teams or 
whatever as you know, and teams 

752
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,040
that haven't to go there and 
like you see no got any hot 

753
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,120
water. 
It's like the old school 

754
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,800
changing rooms and you're tight 
and close to fans and stuff like

755
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,560
that. 
Like that. 

756
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,040
Part of the beauty of like the 
chance of an upset and a cup, 

757
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,040
but it's like they were trying 
to take that part away. 

758
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,440
Do you not remember last season,
the Navy Cup? 

759
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:35,160
I don't know if you've seen it. 
So Tamworth were playing yeah. 

760
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,480
And and they had to get I think 
government and saying they had 

761
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,040
to hire like the the. 
Porter Cabins. 

762
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,360
But they also had to get like 
Porter cabins for the dressing 

763
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,120
room because it wasn't big 
enough for Tottenham. 

764
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,680
So you because you see, think 
about how many like staff and 

765
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:56,400
players and you know, you know, 
medical people or in Tottenham. 

766
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,680
So they don't have any room for 
all these because it had to get 

767
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,040
for cabins and it's just we 
things like that. 

768
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,320
I think it just spoils like. 
That's the prime example that 

769
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,440
you're making like that is 
pretty much a like for like. 

770
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,000
So, again, fought them on a 
massive club, massive fan base. 

771
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,200
But again, just so happens they 
drew a team that doesn't have 

772
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,120
the fancy facilities, the 
massive stadium. 

773
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,840
So that's what you have to deal 
with partly, like the cop, like 

774
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,240
that's the magic of it. 
Like that is what gives the 

775
00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:21,240
chance of unpredictability. 
Yeah. 

776
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,840
As well I mean. 
Take that element away from them

777
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,400
by Punez like you say, James are
ground we are Celtic are more 

778
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,240
familiar with that grim than 
Oakland live card if we're there

779
00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:31,480
every season. 
Exactly, and as well the reason 

780
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,160
giving them is like safety 
concerns or something. 

781
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,600
I just, I just don't understand.
Yeah, well, no. 

782
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,760
No, you know, whether it's 
Celtic or a United coming or 

783
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,760
whoever, if it's going to be a 
sellout, you know the club, they

784
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,840
sell the tickets, attackers, you
know, people take the tickets, 

785
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,080
attack it, sell out and those 
people show up to the game. 

786
00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:51,920
I don't I don't understand where
the safe, the aspect of that 

787
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,120
comes in, I mean. 
And if they're thinking like 

788
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,200
overcrowded, it's not like 
there's going to be thousands of

789
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,200
people turning up. 
That's where you say, OK, that'd

790
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,320
be, that'd be the odd person. 
They can, but they're going to 

791
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,960
be thousands of people rocking 
up to try and watch the game. 

792
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,920
But then it seems like laziness,
like if they call the police on 

793
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,320
that, like, you know, that's 
like often like a host and 

794
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,080
something that's their job to 
ensure like it's done in the 

795
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,640
right way. 
And then there's appropriate 

796
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,800
security outside the ground. 
You know, like I said, people 

797
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,600
talking overcrowding, that's 
like, you know, the capacity of 

798
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,640
the ground you sell attack. 
It's based on that shouldn't be 

799
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,600
any issues. 
Like I just, I don't know, I 

800
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:27,960
feel, I do feel bad because it's
one. 

801
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,720
Of the the general consensus 
says they dodged the dodged the 

802
00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:34,640
upset and Martin O'Neill does 
Martin O'Neill things again and 

803
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,200
just, you know, gets the one. 
However, he gets the one 

804
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,000
regardless say what person he 
puts out the roles on. 

805
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,200
Exactly. 
Yeah, One thing I was just going

806
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,560
to bring up actually just in 
regards to like cup upsets. 

807
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:52,520
So last week in England in the 
FA Cup, Macclesfield became the 

808
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:55,840
the biggest upset ever in the FA
Cup, the knocked out Crystal 

809
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,120
Palace. 
So it was the Premier League 

810
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,200
team and the FA Cup holders and 
I think there was a gap of like 

811
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:07,360
a. 111. 111 places, yeah. 
And I'm just thinking, do you 

812
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,600
think, like, did you wonder, you
think that that comes into the 

813
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,840
mind of like Celtic players like
a cup upset like that and they 

814
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,000
think, oh shit, this could 
happen to us going away. 

815
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,640
Oh, we'll say it's not not like 
in this like the same ground. 

816
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:23,160
Like if you watched the 
Magathield Stadium, you know, 

817
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,920
the Max the ground, it's such a 
tame little one. 

818
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,560
And obviously it would have been
if it was at Orkin Lake, you 

819
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,200
know, actually there, it 
probably probably would have had

820
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,920
the same there's. 
But do you think that any, like 

821
00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:36,760
do you think if they were 
watching that and they think 

822
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,040
shit, this could happen to us or
do you think that it's just 

823
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:40,840
that's down in their 
competition? 

824
00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:46,840
Mapping to focus mapping you 
would be that the Celtic squad 

825
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,080
right now would be nervous about
it because of the pressure that 

826
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,520
under and they obviously clearly
see they're needing players in 

827
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,200
general anyway. 
So there's a chance that could 

828
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,920
happen that, you know, that way 
it starts to keep at the main 

829
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,800
set of they recognise that 
they're struggling anyway in 

830
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,800
general. 
So there's a chance that could 

831
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,600
happen. 
And again, probably the same way

832
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,600
like say, I know the personnel 
has not massively changed. 

833
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,000
It was changed recently, but in 
the Rangers team under Russell 

834
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,600
Martin again, if they got that 
kind of tie earlier on the 

835
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,040
season when they were feeling 
the way they were feeling. 

836
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,760
Possibly, but I think generally 
speaking, like I suppose the gap

837
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,000
in Scotland, the gaps or the 
gaps, it doesn't matter. 

838
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,360
You're right. 
Yeah, but Celtic, any of such a 

839
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,080
stranglehold here, it is really 
different. 

840
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,440
So like I think like most of the
certain Rangers teams I can 

841
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,200
think of in days gone by 
probably wouldn't they be faced 

842
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,720
by like the chance of an upset? 
Like, I don't think, I don't 

843
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:34,800
think they would. 
Yeah. 

844
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:39,360
But I feel like the fragility of
the current and recent teams, I 

845
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,480
definitely felt they would have 
been feeling it at some point, 

846
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,840
especially like again, if 
they've been like what it was 

847
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,000
with Dunfeldman and Hibbs. 
No, it says Celtic company 

848
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,160
scored first half. 
The longer it went on nil, nil, 

849
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,720
they would start panicking a 
little bit. 

850
00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:56,520
You feel that the same thing 
could happen again and like 

851
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,120
another upset or another let 
down from their side of things. 

852
00:40:59,120 --> 00:40:59,880
But. 
Yeah. 

853
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,840
Generally if you want, if you 
want my concept as a harsh fan, 

854
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,440
I would definitely say we always
feel it definitely like the most

855
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,200
teams have seen us playing for 
God. 

856
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,880
That was a struggle and it's 
like we can't handle that 

857
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:18,200
pressure off like you know you 
want to play harsh fans and 

858
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,640
whatever else, what a preacher. 
But the whole were bit like the 

859
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:21,880
best team. 
It's a dual from. 

860
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,400
But then we'll see when it comes
to the scenario of all your 

861
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,480
playing whoever as Spartans or 
whoever it was at the time away 

862
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,840
from home and stuff. 
You can see the nerves like 5 

863
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,160
minutes in, yeah. 
And you're thinking, well, if 

864
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,880
you want to preach about being 
that big A-Team, then you have 

865
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,120
to show it and you have to. 
The quality needs to shine 

866
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,400
through and you need to use your
experience. 

867
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,760
But definitely the nerves will 
start to kick in with most teams

868
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,080
I would imagine. 
I've had that experience when 

869
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,840
you go to late because we keep 
getting drawn against Lynn 

870
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,840
Lithico Rules in the cup and 
it's always away from home as 

871
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:51,920
well. 
We never seem to get at home 

872
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,920
time. 
We've had three away games at 

873
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,000
Lynn Lithico Rules in the last 
10 years and it's a great set up

874
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,400
there and stuff. 
But every time we go there, I 

875
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,400
always think where where we 
could be out of this too. 

876
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,360
You know, the worst, the worst 
happens and we always seem we 

877
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:12,400
always won all the we we lost in
the pre season against them the 

878
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,680
summer, but every competitive 
game we've beaten them. 

879
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,720
But you know, it's just the 
thought of actually going to 

880
00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:21,280
like a small ground, like a like
a tablet, like corrosor. 

881
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,560
You just see it and you know, 
it's just like the tiny little 

882
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,520
stand as well. 
You know, you see things like 

883
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,600
that and you see the over 
overcrowding inside, like 

884
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,760
underneath the like shade stands
and you know, the old, you know,

885
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,360
hot stands and stuff. 
Jesus go to God. 

886
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,280
I just don't fancy it. 
It's when you walk in and you 

887
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,360
see how much of their home 
support showed up more than 

888
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,360
probably was the usual support. 
Like you really get you really 

889
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,800
get a feeling that everyone in 
the town is showed up for that. 

890
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,760
And it's because they think 
something might happen, like, 

891
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,000
oh, we could see something here.
And you're thinking, well, you 

892
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,640
know, like, you know, and 
they're always like they're like

893
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:55,880
you said, they're right on the 
terrace. 

894
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,400
It's, you know, players are 
taking Thrones and they've got 

895
00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:59,840
guys hanging over their 
shoulders nearly. 

896
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,760
I mean these are like the sort 
of images are so on the mess 

897
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,720
with like these cup ties. 
Yeah. 

898
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,240
You've like, I think that the 
Tottenham one we just spoke 

899
00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:11,680
about earlier, like I'm pretty 
sure there's a few photos from 

900
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,520
that where like guys are taking 
Thrones and it's like one of the

901
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,640
world's most famous players. 
Just next step, a bunch of like 

902
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,360
guys on the, you know, spending 
their time at the football at 

903
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:22,920
the weekend. 
They're just plumbers and, you 

904
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,840
know, regular, regular 
supporters. 

905
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,640
And yeah, I know, I know exactly
what you mean, Adam, because you

906
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,360
walk in and you go, they feel 
and it's the same way we walk 

907
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:34,760
in. 
Like, you know, when we're with 

908
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,720
Aberdeen, our fans are were 
saying more than theirs and you 

909
00:43:37,720 --> 00:43:39,200
know, their their home support 
thing. 

910
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:40,800
No, they don't mess up this. 
They must think there's 

911
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,840
something, you know, there's 
something going here and that's 

912
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,640
it. 
That, that's just that is just 

913
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,000
the beauty of the cup. 
Yeah, exactly. 

914
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,840
And just one of those stems and 
let's quickly move on to the 

915
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,720
draw and we'll just quickly see 
if we've got the same opinion 

916
00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:56,680
here. 
Just quickly go over the ties, 

917
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,000
Airdrie Owens versus Saint 
Mirren, Celtic versus Dundee, 

918
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,640
Dundee Knight versus the 
Spartans. 

919
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,040
The Spartans are the last team 
left standing in the Scottish 

920
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,760
Cup. 
People would have thought that 

921
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,000
before the ball was kicked on on
Friday. 

922
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,360
We're going into the weekend 
ties and Dunfermline now taking 

923
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:14,840
on Kelty. 
So that's a local Derby. 

924
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,160
Elgin be part of Thistle. 
I know loads of Thistle 

925
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:20,240
supporters who are loving that, 
that growing up there. 

926
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:22,720
I think that's a bucket list 
stadium for them because they've

927
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:28,000
not played today or I think ever
that I might have seen Rangers. 

928
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,760
Rangers have got either Strandra
or Queens Park and we're 

929
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,400
recording this on Tuesday night.
Right now Queens Park are ahead 

930
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:40,120
and the we mean ahead. 
Then it's a repeat of last 

931
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:45,800
season's game I rocked where 
Queens Park, not Rangers out the

932
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,240
Scottish Cup, but it's a whole 
different type of Queens Park 

933
00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:52,320
team now, Stenhousemuir versus 
Falkirk, local rivalry. 

934
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,080
But I think the big one for me 
as a neutral is looking at 

935
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,760
Aberdeen Motherwell tie and it's
the same tie as in the 

936
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,520
quarterfinal, the League Cup as 
well. 

937
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,960
And Adam, do you have, is there 
any ties in there that you it 

938
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,680
stands out to you or is that the
one that standard that was for 

939
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:14,040
you? 
Yeah, Aberdeen, Motherwell is 

940
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:19,280
always a big tie. 
Don't I don't have any doubts 

941
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,760
about the outcome of the tie, 
but I think, I think it's like, 

942
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,000
I definitely think Motherwell 
won. 

943
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,400
Like I don't have any. 
I've seen Aberdeen enough times 

944
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,880
and watched Motherwell for three
hours straight to know that 

945
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,920
Motherwell are definitely the 
better team at the moment. 

946
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,920
I mean, I know Aberdeen have 
been making signings recently. 

947
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,240
Obviously if they start to bed 
and then my mind could obviously

948
00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:37,760
get swayed a bit. 
They look like they've made two 

949
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,440
or three decent signings so far,
but obviously still got the 

950
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,000
manager situation that we've got
and certainly Motherwell's in a 

951
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,480
better place currently. 
So if it was based on currently,

952
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,160
I would I might be straight to 
Motherville and but that would 

953
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,760
be 1 And I think the other one 
is as definitely standard Smith 

954
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,160
Falkirk as well. 
And then Dalfelm and Kelly 

955
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,680
Hearts like I suppose, again, 
they're not obviously direct 

956
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,080
rivals as such. 
I know you guys and and and the 

957
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,440
part also the rivals, but like 
still that better locality, 

958
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:06,480
right? 
Like them filming and. 

959
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,120
Yeah, I'd imagine the world. 
Yeah. 

960
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,200
That'll be the only team left 
that's called Hearts that'll be 

961
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,400
supporting and then the 
Edinburgh team will be sporting 

962
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,080
will be spot. 
And so I've got obviously got 2 

963
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,280
ties still to keep an eye on. 
Yeah. 

964
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,760
So I would say Aberdeen, 
Motherwell, you're right. 

965
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,800
And then Steny Falkirk feel like
that could be a good one. 

966
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:26,920
Like I feel like it could be a 
good game. 

967
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,000
Steny, Falkirk. 
James, do you have any, do you, 

968
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:34,120
can you predict an upset 
anywhere in this in this round 

969
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,800
right now? 
If we were to pick an upset 

970
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,400
right now, do you have a tie 
that stand out for you the most 

971
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,920
or do you think that it's all 
bankers for the play with the 

972
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,520
teams? 
Yeah, I mean, it's a bit the way

973
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,800
the draws, the way the draws 
come out. 

974
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:53,520
I think a lot of the weird teams
will have been hoping they 

975
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,000
managed to get pepped against, 
get pepped against each other, 

976
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:58,720
which is not how it's worked 
out. 

977
00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:02,200
I mean, obviously Dundee United,
Spartans, I think that's just 

978
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,480
way too much, you know, a 
difference in quality there for 

979
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,040
anything to happen. 
But I mean, you never know. 

980
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,160
I think Jane, I'm not saying 
this as a rave man, but the one 

981
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:16,640
that's most likely is probably 
Dunfermline, Kelly Hart. 

982
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,640
So I'm just saying that because 
it is. 

983
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,760
I mean, Kelly will certainly be 
viewing that as a local Derby 

984
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,400
and all. 
Like Dunfermline sort of feel 

985
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,520
fork and reefer. 
There. 

986
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:25,880
Yeah, that's, I feel the same, 
James. 

987
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,080
I feel like they'll be right up 
for that. 

988
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,400
Kelly that is the nearest team. 
Like that's a part maybe right 

989
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,960
up for that hidden beef. 
And like, maybe I don't like, 

990
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:37,840
look, Eli Albert, I think like 
that is, you know, and I think 

991
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,960
Ted Sir, as well, you know, 
excellent fellow man. 

992
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,920
He's just a manager, yeah. 
He's up at Kelly, so they will 

993
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,560
very much be up for that. 
You know, we're getting framed 

994
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,760
through that local Derby element
and, you know, it is Eastern 

995
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:53,160
Park, but you never know. 
But yeah, that's that's the only

996
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,480
one that I feel was realistic. 
I mean, Falkirk, Staney, there's

997
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,360
a chance, but Falkirk are just 
point so well, right now, I 

998
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,280
think of it being any other 
time, you know, maybe even last 

999
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,280
season, you know, when the 
Falkirk are like top of the 

1000
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,520
league sometimes when you know, 
teams are high flying like that,

1001
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,480
that they, you know, a team like
standings almost able to knock 

1002
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,560
them down a peg. 
But you know, Falkirk are so 

1003
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,800
strong in the Premier League 
right now, they're not, you 

1004
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,280
know, they're not up challenging
for the title. 

1005
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,080
What you know, they're doing 
good things and then, you know, 

1006
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,600
partake Elgon. 
I think that'll just be Elkin. 

1007
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,520
Well, to do anything there if 
they can. 

1008
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,760
But you'd expect that to be just
a Partick. 

1009
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,240
A Partick when really it's just 
a yeah. 

1010
00:48:31,240 --> 00:48:34,120
And then but you never know. 
I mean, Queens Park, you said 

1011
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,920
it's not the same team as last 
year and it's definitely not the

1012
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,320
same Rangers team. 
But yeah, they were going to 

1013
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,040
Ibrox thinking, you know, we did
it last year. 

1014
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,480
You never know. 
As you know as well, we keep 

1015
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,800
talking this magic of the cup. 
Crazy things can happen. 

1016
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:53,320
I know Dundee probably won't be 
happy with getting Celtic but 

1017
00:48:53,720 --> 00:48:56,560
there's another team they've 
already beat this season so you 

1018
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,800
never know. 
That kind of be considered a 

1019
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:03,120
shock then kind of done deal. 
I mean, you know, we could, we 

1020
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,800
could, we can take the back of 
it all we like, but have got 

1021
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,560
Martin and never like like. 
Martin, I'll see them through no

1022
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:10,440
problem. 
Yeah, I. 

1023
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,640
Mean that's how we're getting 
framed from a Dundee angle. 

1024
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,600
You know, they've they've got 
the result getting Celtic this 

1025
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,120
season. 
But I mean, Celtic are very much

1026
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,040
hoping this isn't the same 
Celtic team that faces, you 

1027
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,800
know, maybe in personal wise, 
yeah, but mentality wise, you 

1028
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,120
know. 
If you had to pick a winner of 

1029
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:27,600
the whole thing, now who use 
each second? 

1030
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:33,640
I said Motherwell to begin with.
You know what is is looking at 

1031
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,520
the last year. 
I mean, Rangers are playing 

1032
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,400
really good football right now. 
I mean, I think for me it's 

1033
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,680
maybe between Rangers, 
Motherwell, just, you know, 

1034
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,320
Celtic, Celtic are sort of an 
ongoing case in terms of where 

1035
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,920
Martin O'Neill can get them to, 
who they can recruit in this 

1036
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,720
window. 
And, you know, and, you know, if

1037
00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:52,120
you can sort of get the same 
tune out of them that you was 

1038
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,840
getting and it's, you know, the 
previous interim period they had

1039
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,600
before Christmas. 
So But yeah, I think I'd agree 

1040
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,240
with you there. 
Motherwell definitely, 

1041
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,280
definitely should fancy 
themselves. 

1042
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,520
But I mean, Rangers I hate, 
like, I don't hate saying that 

1043
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,440
Rangers are playing good 
football right now, so. 

1044
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,800
I'd I'd be Rangers as well, 
probably just, I'd just be on 

1045
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,600
Rangers only because they've 
improved a lot on the rule and 

1046
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:15,960
because they've got a favourable
draw. 

1047
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,720
I think, like I know I'm saying,
but I do fancy mother would be 

1048
00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:22,120
Aberdeen, don't get me wrong, 
but Aberdeen have got obviously 

1049
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,000
a way better chance to beat 
Motherwell than. 

1050
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:25,880
Spark. 
Cover beating Rangers, 

1051
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,440
especially given what I touched 
on about Aberdeen potentially 

1052
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,080
improving with the signings 
they're going to get and then 

1053
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,160
obviously whoever comes in 
management wise. 

1054
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,200
So that is that Padanas gonna 
say Motherwell and then they get

1055
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:42,160
put out. 
But like a Rangers canny like it

1056
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,280
pains, messy it. 
But can I see past them though 

1057
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,200
to be honest? 
Yeah, they're playing class and 

1058
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,880
I mean, we feel also one thing. 
I know we're just pulling it to 

1059
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,600
move on to covering the game at 
the weekend, which is the 

1060
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,720
tabletop clash between Hearts 
and Celtic. 

1061
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:58,360
But is there a small part the 
item that's happy, not happy? 

1062
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,600
But like if you could take any 
positive from been out of the 

1063
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:07,880
cup, is it that Hearts can now 
100% focus on this final run in 

1064
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:13,040
to win the title potentially? 
Yeah, pretty much like I think 

1065
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,440
and it actually helped as well 
League Cup wise. 

1066
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,400
So we got fairly good start, 
don't want to go to the cops, 

1067
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,720
but going out the League Cup and
then we know Europe effectively 

1068
00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:24,400
well that could start in the 
league and that no other things 

1069
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,680
to focus on until January 
because there wasn't a Scottish 

1070
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,120
Cup game till January at the 
whole rest of the year last 

1071
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,080
year. 
Sorry, we're just the leak and 

1072
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,080
the same scenarios now. 
Again, we're only at the end of 

1073
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,760
January and we've only got the 
leak to focus on between the and

1074
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,200
May and we've got the sizes 
squad we've got and the depth 

1075
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,120
that we've got. 
I know it's going to get tested 

1076
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,560
now because of no gut injuries. 
So it'll be interesting to see. 

1077
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,440
When we talk about depth, 
McKenna says it's got the 

1078
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,000
quality there. 
Do we actually have it there? 

1079
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,600
Because a lot of these guys have
been sitting waiting in the 

1080
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,800
wings, but equally that's their 
opportunity to to show that 

1081
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,960
they've you know, that they 
deserve to be there and then 

1082
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,920
that they obviously deserve a 
spot on the team. 

1083
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,720
But it's definitely a massive 
help me not being in the cup 

1084
00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:07,560
because you've not got that that
distraction and but equally 

1085
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,760
frustrating it because like you 
just want to get you guys will 

1086
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,160
be the same. 
You just want to get as far as 

1087
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,520
you can. 
Try and get your hand then. 

1088
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,280
You're never happy. 
Like you said, it's it is. 

1089
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,240
You've always got. 
The pizza, but you're right in 

1090
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:18,440
terms of league priority in 
terms of if I was just talking 

1091
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,880
about the league you're buying 
on the money like it gives us 

1092
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,800
sole focus on that and like and 
it gives you that sort of even 

1093
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,720
like it's even little things 
like best week. 

1094
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:28,640
Obviously we've got the game 
Comer, but to talk about the 

1095
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,000
Celtics playing midweek again 
and stuff like fuddle that kind 

1096
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,480
of as well people playing 
midweek and cup games and extra 

1097
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:34,680
games and we didn't have any of 
that. 

1098
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,920
So yeah, it gives me that that 
really hope even though we've 

1099
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,680
got the injuries that is just 
our only focus. 

1100
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,640
So that might be enough to help 
support us to continue the run. 

1101
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:50,120
Hopefully get that coming Let's.
Let's talk about Sunday because 

1102
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,280
I think it is going to be the 
game of the season so far and 

1103
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:54,800
certainly in the Premiership 
anyway. 

1104
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,280
How are you feeling about it 
Adam? 

1105
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,720
Are you nervous about it? 
6 points in front? 

1106
00:52:59,720 --> 00:53:02,640
We don't know about how many 
games we've got left. 

1107
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,040
It's about 16 games to go. 16, 
yeah. 

1108
00:53:05,240 --> 00:53:09,360
Yeah, how how you, how you 
Obviously it's Tuesday now, 

1109
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,840
still a while to go, but how, 
how you feeling about Sunday? 

1110
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:18,160
Like I'm not not as obviously 
confident as it would be if we 

1111
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,760
had Devlin, Beningamine, 
Shanklin playing because they 

1112
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,080
are three core players that have
got us to where we are. 

1113
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,040
But like I said, there'll be a 
bit shuffling about, especially 

1114
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,600
in that central midfield area 
where Celtic are especially 

1115
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,240
strong in that central midfield 
area. 

1116
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:38,240
So that'll be a challenge. 
But I mean, I Celtics got a 

1117
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:40,160
decent opportunity now that 
they've got O'Neill and we're 

1118
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,080
having to face O'Neill on how he
plays mixed with the fact that 

1119
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,760
we are depleted a little bit 
gives them the best chance they 

1120
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,440
may be had. 
When you look at the other two 

1121
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,840
games that we played against 
them, I thought like both games 

1122
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,320
we deserved that and we were the
better team. 

1123
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,480
But I think we can still be the 
better team and get a one on 

1124
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:56,400
Sunday. 
Yeah, I do. 

1125
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,000
And I'm confident that we'll 
win. 

1126
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,480
Yum. 
But there's still a chance that 

1127
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:02,840
Martin O'Neill does martineal 
things. 

1128
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,480
I hate being and I hate being so
cliche about it. 

1129
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,120
But he just it's just that 
experience. 

1130
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:08,960
See, like he's just got that 
knowledge and it says man 

1131
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,600
management. 
Like he gets the best out of 

1132
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,200
people, I think. 
His character as well his 

1133
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:14,840
character as. 
Well, it carries an order, mate.

1134
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,280
It carries an order that like 
you just put a wee bit like 

1135
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,360
McKenna, I suppose, like you 
just believe what he's saying 

1136
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,240
and you and then it makes you 
perform better. 

1137
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,760
And then yet that can maybe that
we better luck or someone 

1138
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,080
changes the game and all of a 
sudden they're a Celtic team 

1139
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,320
with confidence. 
Even with the personnel they've 

1140
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,800
got is still better than the one
that's been shot the bits in 

1141
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,080
terms of the under Nancy and 
things. 

1142
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,240
So and they've still got quality
there, right. 

1143
00:54:35,240 --> 00:54:37,320
They've still got the you know, 
they've still got McGregor who's

1144
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,520
at the heart of everything. 
They've still got Tierney 

1145
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,720
scales. 
They've got experienced players 

1146
00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:45,440
in the team. 
I think again, their their main 

1147
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,240
problem is Denny have that 
firepower that you're used to 

1148
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:50,800
them having and they've got 
wonders that are a bit hot and 

1149
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,080
cold to Denny huff like a 
central striker yet, which is 

1150
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,400
crazy. 
And I think the thing that we 

1151
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,760
have that they don't have, which
is I've never really said as a 

1152
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,440
kid or an adult as we've got 
that we have been able to bully 

1153
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,000
them. 
We've got that physicality and 

1154
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:11,240
I'm there's been chats and I've 
been on some sort of a couple of

1155
00:55:11,240 --> 00:55:14,520
other podcasts and YouTube 
things and stuff and they've 

1156
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,720
been talking about like what 
system information we're going 

1157
00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:19,120
to play. 
And I think regardless, I think 

1158
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,040
you'll find there's will be a 
lot of people that are 6 foot or

1159
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,440
more that will be playing. 
And come Sunday, I think he 

1160
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:28,200
might go with four centre backs 
as a back 4. 

1161
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,080
So I think like it'll be like 
Steinwender, Halket, Finley and 

1162
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,080
Mccart, because there's a chance
that Harvey mum could be in 

1163
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,120
central midfield because that's 
what we've done in the cup game 

1164
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:37,480
because that's where we're 
lacking. 

1165
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,880
And he also offers that sort of 
fate and Gale that you need. 

1166
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,040
I mean, the Shankland ones about
Shankland. 

1167
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:48,320
Devlin's like massively like, 
yeah, Devlin's everywhere. 

1168
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,760
The last time we were at 10 
Castle, he really, really got on

1169
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,400
McGregor's nerves. 
He got in his head quite 

1170
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,840
quickly, which isn't the easiest
thing to do, to be honest. 

1171
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,840
No, not. 
And then it's just about and 

1172
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,200
it's about like taking McGregor 
out the game because it's so 

1173
00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:03,760
obvious. 
Something Celtic as well. 

1174
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,000
Like they play everything 
through McGregor or they play 

1175
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,160
Tierney down the left and 
Tierney tries to cut back like 

1176
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,280
the show of us and what they do.
But the guys are obviously top 

1177
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:11,760
players. 
So they're always finding the 

1178
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,360
holes in the space and people at
Devlin can can have the energy 

1179
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,880
and that the like I say that the
sort of aggression and getting 

1180
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,440
on the nerves to prevent it and 
and arc them a little bit. 

1181
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,840
So that yeah, that's that's 
going to be a real pain. 

1182
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,440
I'm not playing but I think 
Kabodia will just replace Shank 

1183
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,280
on top front and Kabodia is like
your typical. 

1184
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,520
Have you seen AFCON yet? 
Did you watch any? 

1185
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:33,320
Yeah. 
Watch some of that. 

1186
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,360
Yeah, yeah. 
So Kibori is like again, like 

1187
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,920
your typical AFCON player, like 
he just brings chaos. 

1188
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:42,200
Like like it's like he's playing
in sliders, but he's got like 

1189
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,040
that power and peace and 
strength and he's just going to 

1190
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,400
be like a pain in the pain in 
the butt for the Celtic 

1191
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:48,800
defender. 
So I'm hoping that's what he 

1192
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,200
brings. 
And then I think they'll just 

1193
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,600
try and start us off like push 
and press, like try and be 

1194
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,760
physical and get in their face. 
And like you see, hopefully once

1195
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,120
you get the first school way 
that then the the crowd and 

1196
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,360
stuff that will start to be a 
big factor. 

1197
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:06,240
But it's it's no way could be 
anything like it's not the first

1198
00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:07,480
one. 
He was been attained cast. 

1199
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,600
So you'll know what to expect 
and you'll prepare the players 

1200
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,200
correctly for it. 
And they still have experienced 

1201
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,280
players in the team. 
So like they will Celtic will be

1202
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,960
it'll be a tough game, but we'll
see what happens as well. 

1203
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,760
I think it's one of them. 
We just didn't want to lose it. 

1204
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,920
Like if you can get through this
game, not lose, you know, you're

1205
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:28,600
at least six points, go to 
Celtic still and then obviously 

1206
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,400
a some other week where you can 
maybe get devil and Shantlet 

1207
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,400
back another both 68 weeks. 
But you know what I mean? 

1208
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,160
Like another big game where you 
don't put Celtic until post 

1209
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:40,320
split. 
So like a yeah, but they still 

1210
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,920
be PR big loss like they must 
Celtic Rangers on hubs. 

1211
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:47,280
Yeah, so a lot so a lot of big 
games as well to miss out on 

1212
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,080
business I. 
Mean these are the one even the 

1213
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,560
one after Celtic. 
I waited on DNA. 

1214
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:51,960
It's that's the one I've been as
well. 

1215
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,200
Like so, but then you can't have
it both ways. 

1216
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,520
Like talk about like, well, 
every game's pressure, but like 

1217
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,320
if you want to be at the top, 
but yes, you have to just deal 

1218
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:00,960
with. 
So like you have to just if 

1219
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,640
that's what you want your team 
to achieve, whichever they 

1220
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,920
should, then you just have to 
expect that that's what comes 

1221
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,600
with. 
But we'll see what happens. 

1222
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,480
I think it will be a really good
game and thank goodness that 

1223
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:15,560
beating a lotion on the middle 
and so beating his own bottom 

1224
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:19,280
should have tried his best and 
we'll see what comes with it. 

1225
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:20,920
You guys be tuning into that or 
he's been? 

1226
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,520
I'll I'll watch, I'll watch 
that, I'll watch that. 

1227
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,520
I'm covering it for the for the 
page. 

1228
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,520
So well. 
Well, I'll be on top of that. 

1229
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:32,360
I'll go to James to talk about 
this game in particular because 

1230
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:37,360
I want to know about I want to 
get an opinion from from a 

1231
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:41,080
neutral perspective, James, just
because obviously I haven't been

1232
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,240
a big heart supporter and I 
think you'll know loads of heart

1233
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:48,040
supporters as well, James, that 
keep saying to me in particular,

1234
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:49,960
we're not favourites to win this
title. 

1235
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:51,880
We're not favourites. 
And Adam, I don't know if you 

1236
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,160
think you're the favourites or 
not, but you know, I know loads 

1237
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,280
of heart supporters at work in 
particular who say. 

1238
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,400
Let's put it on record. 
I also think we're not 

1239
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:00,520
favourites. 
Right. 

1240
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:05,040
OK, so so we know loads of heart
supporters here James that have 

1241
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,680
seen they're not favourites to 
win this league. 

1242
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:11,800
They're not favourites that it's
you know, Celtic Rangers are the

1243
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,320
favourites to win this league. 
If Hearts win on Sunday, are 

1244
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,520
they the favourites to win this 
league? 

1245
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:21,200
Games I. 
Mean there is. 

1246
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:22,920
There's still a long way to go, 
isn't there? 

1247
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:25,920
No, I don't. 
I'm not saying. 

1248
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,840
Yeah, Yeah. 
And there's, you know, you know,

1249
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,080
I want. 
It's very tight at the top of 

1250
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,080
the table. 
And you shouldn't conflate not 

1251
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:38,000
seeing Hearts our favorites is 
because you think any other team

1252
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:42,440
is an overbearing favorite. 
No, I mean, if I was to say 

1253
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,520
Hearts are the favorites, it'd 
be because I'm, you know, 

1254
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,400
fractionally maybe think they 
have a better chance than others

1255
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:52,600
is really tight and open on 
Saturday goal. 

1256
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:56,200
Saturday will go a long way 
because like, you know, we 

1257
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,880
already talked about how Martin 
O'Neill just seems to get things

1258
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,160
done. 
He's not been in charge when 

1259
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:02,760
Hearts have played Celtic so 
far. 

1260
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,320
It was Rogers and then it was 
nonsense. 

1261
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,240
So. 
You know, they'll be part of 

1262
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:07,320
Hearts are going right. 
OK. 

1263
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:11,520
This is the first Test against 
the aside that you know is that,

1264
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,320
you know, the Celtic support are
more comfortable with the guy 

1265
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,960
who's in charge now. 
I'm sure they're like maybe not 

1266
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,040
as much Rogers, but you know, 
things weren't going great back 

1267
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,160
then. 
Enemy for them I think was it 

1268
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,200
was in the aftermath of that 
game he left, wasn't it? 

1269
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:26,680
I'm just, I'm thinking that 
James as well. 

1270
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,040
So we've played Celtic 3 * 3 
different managers. 

1271
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,960
That must be a record. 
Yeah, that's not. 

1272
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:36,440
And that's, you know, and like 
say like it's first time I 

1273
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,280
played well, I've been well, 
he's been at the helm. 

1274
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:42,400
So that's that. 
I guess that brings a new 

1275
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:49,160
element to the test. 
You know, if I I don't know who 

1276
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:54,240
I'd say the favors, but right 
now I'd say I think Rangers have

1277
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:59,680
a better chance than Celtic. 
And I don't know where I put 

1278
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:04,160
Hearts in and around that, but 
one thing I will say is like 

1279
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,200
hearts have got to a point in 
the season where the top of the 

1280
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:10,440
table and it's January. 
Like I'd be I might not be seen 

1281
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:14,200
I'm favorite or if I was, you 
know, if I was a hearts fan, but

1282
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,520
I'd be I've been enjoying it. 
You know, you got enjoy it. 

1283
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,640
You know, you act like you're 
the favorites. 

1284
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,560
Enjoy being at the top of the 
table, these things, I'm sure, 

1285
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,760
but it's sort of Tony Bloom era 
just getting off that start. 

1286
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,200
Hearts will open seasons like 
this, you know, become far more 

1287
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,840
common going into the future. 
But it's not been something 

1288
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,120
Scottish football team for a 
while. 

1289
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,320
And I'd love to thank hearts 
fans are enjoying us. 

1290
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:35,320
They're going into their work, 
they're going into the schools 

1291
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,480
and they're telling them it's 
not their favorites, you know, 

1292
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,360
winding up their old farm 
colleagues and classmates and 

1293
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,040
whoever, you know, stacking it 
to them and say, you know, we're

1294
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,320
favorites fest and you know, 
back them all the way. 

1295
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,760
So I might not if hearts were on
Saturday, then my favorites. 

1296
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,440
There we go, Saturday, Saturday,
Sunday, Sunday. 

1297
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,360
Something I think I think like 
there's two obviously kind of 

1298
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,400
speak for all hearts fans. 
I'm sure they'll shoot me down 

1299
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,760
if I say it wrong, but like the 
two main factors. 

1300
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,640
I can think as to why certainly 
I would and I feel like a lot of

1301
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:05,240
other people wouldn't have got 
us as favourites. 

1302
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,520
It's and one of them will 
disappear at the end of the 

1303
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:11,120
month as the transfer window, 
right, just because they have 

1304
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:16,040
the the financial gap to be able
to just bring in not anybody. 

1305
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,720
But you know, I mean a better 
standard you could argue of 

1306
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,920
player based on, again, whatever
the valuation of that player is 

1307
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,840
and all based on Jamestown. 
That doesn't necessarily mean 

1308
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,160
that they're better based on 
their market value, because 

1309
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:30,800
that's the point of Jamestown 
buying people that are good than

1310
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,400
whatever leaked that in at a 
lower price to then maybe upsell

1311
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,080
later on. 
But you take my point and then 

1312
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,680
the second one, which is 
probably a bigger one in the 

1313
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,840
mines and like you're touching 
on James, you're like, you know,

1314
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,520
giving it to them. 
You know, like we are the best 

1315
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,760
and we're totally you've been 
100 days at the top, blah, blah,

1316
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,480
blah, right. 
But I think that the thing 

1317
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,320
that's Arkin Harsh runs a little
bit and preventing someone from 

1318
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,640
seeing it is because it's just 
the reputation of the country. 

1319
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,560
Like it's just not what it's 
still just not the norm. 

1320
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:59,000
So it doesn't even it's baffling
that we're set 100 days at the 

1321
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,760
top and still a lot of us are 
going now. 

1322
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,480
We're no favourites now. 
We can't see that yet, but like 

1323
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,960
Celtic Rangers, if they were top
and six points clear would be 

1324
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:08,000
saying I were definitely 
favourites. 

1325
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,400
So it's just because they're 
still and again, what's been 

1326
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,960
predominantly Celtic, but it has
study wise, both of them are the

1327
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,720
title winners, right. 
So like it's just what 

1328
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,840
reputationally them and the rest
of the countries used to. 

1329
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,520
So therefore everybody's just 
like now we're just waiting for 

1330
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,000
hearts to fall. 
There's no you've seen it on on 

1331
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,680
XA lot like when we were topping
September, like they'll know 

1332
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,720
last till November. 
They'll know last the end of the

1333
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:31,080
year. 
They'll know last till March. 

1334
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,200
They keep moving the goal posts 
till what's checking me. 

1335
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,480
So they're convinced that like. 
And always everyone can say 

1336
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,000
that, you know, there is this 
expectation at some point at 

1337
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:43,080
Celtic, which suddenly it was 
clacking and get that together. 

1338
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,840
And and once they did, this 
whole sort of debate would be 

1339
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:48,640
put to bed. 
You know, it would, you know, 

1340
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:50,480
it'd be it'd be all said and 
done. 

1341
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,600
Celtic would just go in there, 
went in streak and that would, 

1342
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,200
you know, close the whole 
conversation. 

1343
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:59,840
That's not happened. 
And I I do agree what you say 

1344
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:03,320
about the reputation because it 
just kind of gets in green then.

1345
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:06,560
Yeah. 
And it's almost like cash your 

1346
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:08,280
mind back to Leicester City went
in the title. 

1347
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,480
It was a while before people 
really were willing to accept 

1348
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,440
that they are going to go all 
the way. 

1349
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:15,840
And it almost happened in like 
it was almost like a watershed 

1350
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:17,640
moment. 
I was, you know, as soon as it, 

1351
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,840
as soon as people start to 
believe that, you know, it was 

1352
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:25,360
suddenly unbelievable. 
They wouldn't win it. 

1353
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:27,680
I don't know if you remember 
what I was like about then, but 

1354
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:28,720
you know. 
Here's another one. 

1355
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,000
Here's another one for you, 
right, another question that's 

1356
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,800
it's hard to came down to now we
depend on how you spin it, But 

1357
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,240
if Hearts win the league, what's
the bigger achievement? 

1358
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:40,400
Hearts win an or Leicester. 
I'd say I'd say Hearts 100. 

1359
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:44,480
Percent, I'd say, I'd say Hearts
as well because I think because 

1360
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,920
Leicester still spend like lots 
and lots of money where you 

1361
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:52,080
know, you know, I know it's not 
a lot of good bits like sort of 

1362
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,720
Arsenal, Manchester City, 
Manchester United, Liverpool's 

1363
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,560
among that, but there's still 
you can. 

1364
01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:59,560
Still have the ability to spend 
millions. 

1365
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,800
Exactly. 
Yes, Well, I know, but in this 

1366
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,680
country we there's only two 
teams that have the ability to 

1367
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,720
spend millions if they want to 
spend. 

1368
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,360
Millions obviously. 
Look at Rangers accounts. 

1369
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:09,640
There's technically only one, 
but yeah. 

1370
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,480
I know, no, we're not going to 
get talks about we're not a 

1371
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,320
finance podcast, so we're not 
going to talk about fine. 

1372
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:20,920
But certainly my, my, my view, I
think carts would be the bigger 

1373
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,640
achievement. 
And I think being somebody who 

1374
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,840
likes you always say it's 
evolved in Scottish people. 

1375
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,920
I want to see big stories here 
and I don't want to see big 

1376
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,440
achievements here because we 
were talking on another podcast 

1377
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:37,720
a couple weeks ago about when 
you think about what's currently

1378
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,400
happening in Scottish football, 
you consider that Hearts of 

1379
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:44,080
women, you know, Hearts are, you
know, leading the title race. 

1380
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,280
St. 
Mirren are the League Cup 

1381
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:50,240
holders, Celtic are the 
Premiership holders, Aberdeen 

1382
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,120
are the Scottish Cup holders. 
That's four no different teams 

1383
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:57,160
altogether currently having 
successful spells and the one, 

1384
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,400
So I think just to be involved 
in Scottish football at this 

1385
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,600
moment, team, it's brilliant and
hopefully there's another big 

1386
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:04,440
story to come. 
From my perspective. 

1387
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,120
I want Hearts to win it because 
I would like to see somebody a 

1388
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,400
bit different. 
I was going to say though, we 

1389
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,080
have like about here, like what 
you're saying Leicester, like 

1390
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,800
we've seen Blackburn when, when 
the, I don't know if it was the 

1391
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,160
Premier League at the time, but 
we have seen stuff like that and

1392
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,640
before and the variety of 
winners of the Premier League 

1393
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:24,200
over the last 20 plus years. 
You know, there's been lots, but

1394
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:28,840
the domination is Scottish 
football has been like an iron 

1395
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,440
grip for women's. 
Last time it was Aberdeen and a 

1396
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,880
was that the. 
Last or a four years or so, 

1397
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:34,720
yeah. 
Exactly. 

1398
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:38,720
So, you know, you're you're as 
it goes against the culture that

1399
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,760
has been imposed on the nation, 
you know, you know, guys in the 

1400
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,440
Premier League, so eyeing up 
that third place box, you know, 

1401
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,200
setting them for starting up for
grabs. 

1402
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:52,440
And even the hearts have made 
changes as I heard folks in 

1403
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,560
different podcasts that they 
didn't really think this was a 

1404
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:59,160
Tony Bloom yet team yet, which I
would disagree with because, you

1405
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:02,120
know, there's a handful of 
signings have made, you know, 

1406
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:03,600
have proved to be brilliant 
signings. 

1407
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,560
And I don't think they would 
have made if it wasn't, you 

1408
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,200
know, for those Jamestown 
analytics that you keep 

1409
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:11,920
referring to, Adam. 
But, you know, at the same time,

1410
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,000
even though they've got this at 
the disposal, they're still not 

1411
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,360
forced to be reckoned with in 
the Scottish football. 

1412
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,360
They have gone with a manager 
who has been in around the 

1413
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,960
league for years. 
And it wasn't necessarily a case

1414
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,000
that they were just going to hit
the ground running, something 

1415
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,400
going to do well. 
So, you know, what Hearts are 

1416
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,200
doing this season is massive. 
It's, you know, and it continues

1417
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,880
to be a massive achievement even
even if they didn't win it. 

1418
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:35,480
It's to push Celtic and Rangers 
as far they've created the 

1419
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,800
conversation in itself as an 
achievement. 

1420
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:41,960
And, you know, like I hope and 
it helps fans. 

1421
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,360
Well, this will give you some 
way to say, but I really I'm 

1422
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:49,120
what this could do for the 
country to completely change the

1423
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:52,800
Nat of of the league and, you 
know, create a little bit of 

1424
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,440
conversation, you know, other 
countries looking angry and 

1425
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,840
what's going on now, you know, 
TV like this stuff. 

1426
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,080
It could be great for the 
country. 

1427
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:04,360
Yeah. 
It's massive financially in that

1428
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,600
sense and it's massive 
financially as well in the sense

1429
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,600
of the coefficient, because 
obviously this is the last 

1430
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:11,800
season that like the League One 
that'll be in the Champions 

1431
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,120
League playoff round and then 
the 2nd and 4th will be 

1432
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:19,760
Conference League pretty much. 
So like whoever wins that league

1433
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,680
title, it's the last time for 
however, however long until we 

1434
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,520
sort the European standard that 
we've we've set ourselves. 

1435
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,520
And obviously Rangers, Celtic 
carry that torch for us 

1436
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:29,880
supremely. 
Didn't get me wrong. 

1437
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,359
But like that I'm just meaning 
in terms of like why it's so 

1438
01:08:32,359 --> 01:08:34,720
important still for Celtic, 
Rangers not only just to win the

1439
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,600
title, but also what comes with 
that in terms of monetary value 

1440
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,160
as well. 
They still, as much as they're 

1441
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,880
bigger financially, they still 
do rely on heavily the fact they

1442
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,040
get to Europe and make money 
from Europe and obviously they 

1443
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,319
want to progress in Europe equal
again. 

1444
01:08:46,319 --> 01:08:47,880
That's why Thursday they're in 
Bologna. 

1445
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,040
That's still going to be a 
massive game for Celtic to try 

1446
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:51,680
and win that game. 
But in three days later they've 

1447
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,359
got to come to tank castle and 
we've had the week off in terms 

1448
01:08:54,359 --> 01:08:57,520
of like games. 
So there's all the factors as 

1449
01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:58,439
well. 
But I think it's even the 

1450
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,680
foresight, like if you look at 
Hearts in terms of recruitment 

1451
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:04,960
that they seem to just be a lot 
more switched on and all Rangers

1452
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,840
have had a flurry recently. 
But like, especially if you 

1453
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,000
compare it to Celtic, the 
Celtics nearly took a year to 

1454
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:13,000
try and replace Kyogo and then 
Hearts have also replaced in 

1455
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,680
numerous areas as they're, you 
know, ramping up with analytics 

1456
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,880
and whatever. 
But like, even if you look at 

1457
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:19,840
now the summer, like Hearts of 
what are they like got Josh 

1458
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:23,279
Mcpeak on like a pre contract 
that the the the Rogers Mattel 

1459
01:09:23,279 --> 01:09:25,120
guy on a pre contract. 
And now obviously they've 

1460
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,760
they've got they've ramped that 
up now just because of what's 

1461
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,439
happened and got him this month.
You'll be here by this month. 

1462
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,279
But the point I'm trying to make
is if Celtic even do sign 

1463
01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:36,120
whoever they sign this month, 
they're still no fought beyond 

1464
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:37,359
this month. 
They felt like, what are they 

1465
01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:39,439
going to do in the summer? 
What they're going to do was 

1466
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,359
that hearts are already built 
foundations, like it's like a 

1467
01:09:42,359 --> 01:09:45,200
few months ahead. 
It seems that really in reality 

1468
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,760
should be ahead of them anyway, 
like because they should have 

1469
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:51,279
the, the sort of the, the 
facilities and the funds to sort

1470
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:53,479
of squash whatever as we're 
doing. 

1471
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,880
Maybe the gap should close 
because we're obviously in terms

1472
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,360
of what we've got. 
But again, they're still 

1473
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:01,120
dwarfing us in terms of like 
their own finances and their own

1474
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,760
what should be better 
recruitment and and whatever 

1475
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:07,000
else in terms of whatever they 
pay their staff to do what 

1476
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:08,120
they're doing is what I'm trying
to say. 

1477
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,400
We shouldn't be out of their 
head that one do with them. 

1478
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,640
It just seems bizarre and I 
think they've maybe took for 

1479
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,200
granted their own stations a 
little bit and not recognised 

1480
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,400
like the how how the people at 
Hearts have got in there, how 

1481
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,760
they operate and how quickly it 
all starts to just fit into 

1482
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,440
place. 
But you're right James, I can't.

1483
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,440
It's came came too soon because 
obviously, don't get me wrong, 

1484
01:10:27,440 --> 01:10:29,000
like I need to enjoy it, I want 
to enjoy it. 

1485
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:32,360
But it's more like understanding
that hopefully as like you say, 

1486
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,480
like seasons to come, you know, 
maybe we finished second one 

1487
01:10:35,480 --> 01:10:38,280
year, then maybe we do want 
another 2-3 years then and then 

1488
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:40,480
we finished fourth second. 
So we're just always in the 

1489
01:10:40,480 --> 01:10:42,360
mixer. 
So we become nearer them than 

1490
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,360
the neither the the rest of the 
teams in the premiership and 

1491
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:49,040
like say if it causing that gap.
And so it's exciting times. 

1492
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:53,480
I will try and stay wasn't ever 
enjoy it as long as I can, but I

1493
01:10:53,480 --> 01:10:56,600
will keep coming on the podcast.
Like I said, even if we get bend

1494
01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:01,320
that we come to lose games, 
maybe that for big games I'll be

1495
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,960
on no matter what. 
I appreciate the support for you

1496
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,840
guys, try our best. 
You'll try, you'll try your 

1497
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:08,200
best. 
You have to quick score 

1498
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,120
prediction for Sunday. 
Just a very quick one before we 

1499
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:12,960
move on to Scotland before we 
wrap up. 

1500
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:19,560
Do you go first? 
21 hearts when you go. 21 go on.

1501
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:24,640
21 hearts. 
I said one Oh so so I'll I'll 

1502
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:30,080
cool 10 because I like sitting 
on the fence and but yeah, good 

1503
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,560
to good to have a great 
discussion there about that game

1504
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:36,440
and took on by our hearts and I 
think well this is not a story 

1505
01:11:36,440 --> 01:11:39,880
that's going to go away anytime 
soon, even if it is a defeat by 

1506
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:41,880
hearts. 
I think it's going to be there 

1507
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,120
for rest of the season, if not 
maybe going into next season as 

1508
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,160
well. 
So let's just keep an eye on 

1509
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,960
what's going on there. 
We'll very quickly go and speak 

1510
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,400
about Scotland. 
Two home friendlies. 

1511
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,600
Boots, it was two home 
friendlies that we predicted it 

1512
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,600
was going to happen. 
Japan and Curacao. 

1513
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,160
I hope they're pronouncing that 
right. 

1514
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,040
So I do apologize for 
pronouncing that wrong. 

1515
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,520
James happy with those two teams
coming to Hamden. 

1516
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:08,040
Yeah, I mean it's great. 
Obviously Curacao is a World Cup

1517
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:12,760
send off match from Hamden 
before we have an away friendly 

1518
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,080
probably over the pond 
somewhere. 

1519
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,120
I think Florida's what's been 
mentioned for a game against 

1520
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,880
Peru, so I know that'll be good.
That'll be good. 

1521
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:24,800
Saturday afternoon, 5:00 PM So 
5:00 PM One PM, 1:00 PM Five. 

1522
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:28,360
PMI think for the Japan game 
that same for the curious. 1:00 

1523
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:30,320
PM. 
So not as much time to get the 

1524
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:32,000
beers in, but I'm sure we'll get
a couple. 

1525
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:33,760
Oh, actually, there will be 
things. 

1526
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:34,920
Get the beers. 
And that's what they've just 

1527
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:38,480
announced, isn't it? 
Trial, trial, trial trailer. 

1528
01:12:38,480 --> 01:12:39,800
Hamden Yeah, that was a nice. 
Segue. 

1529
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:44,600
You know what actually didn't? 
No, I haven't meant that I've 

1530
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,200
been really good. 
You know, it's just maybe I 

1531
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,480
don't know, maybe there's 
there's someone working hard at 

1532
01:12:49,480 --> 01:12:52,440
that back of my brain to make 
this, make this a good 

1533
01:12:52,440 --> 01:12:54,360
production. 
But no, not as good. 

1534
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:58,320
I mean, Chris, how you can draw 
parallels with them to Haiti. 

1535
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,760
So we'll get to match up 
against. 

1536
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:02,520
I mean, Clark talked about 
playing against different 

1537
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,520
countries, different players, 
different playing styles. 

1538
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,000
So, you know, they'll definitely
provide that. 

1539
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:10,480
And it's an excellent experience
the boys will get just before we

1540
01:13:10,480 --> 01:13:13,440
go and play against he because 
that were the first game. 

1541
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,280
And then Japan as well. 
Obviously we're not playing 

1542
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,320
anyone from the Asian 
Confederation at the World Cup, 

1543
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,440
but I mean, Japan are a really 
good side. 

1544
01:13:22,480 --> 01:13:26,520
They are routinely at World 
Cups, usually perform quite 

1545
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:28,400
well. 
They have good players. 

1546
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,440
So yeah, that'll be, that'll be 
a good test. 

1547
01:13:31,440 --> 01:13:33,760
I feel like Scotland, we've 
played quite a lot of families 

1548
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:37,480
recently and I'll play some very
high caliber opposition. 

1549
01:13:37,480 --> 01:13:41,040
It's going to be nice to play 
someone that is a good team. 

1550
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,640
But I don't feel as like, you 
know, of our league and, you 

1551
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:47,360
know, in summer space, then you 
know, they're they're they're at

1552
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,840
least I'd like to think closer 
to our level. 

1553
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:51,680
And it'll be interesting to see 
us play them because I don't 

1554
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:53,880
don't think we've played. 
We've not played them since the 

1555
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:55,800
kidding Cup. 
We won that bad. 

1556
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,720
I think we've played them in 
2009, if I remember correctly, 

1557
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,400
if I read that right. 
Yeah, we've played them in 

1558
01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:07,640
Tokyo, I think, or somewhere. 
George, George Burley and George

1559
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,800
Burley. 
Played that's to me, but I 

1560
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:11,360
surprised that did not. 
Realize that. 

1561
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:15,640
I'm sure, I'm sure my brain has 
recapped that from somewhere. 

1562
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:17,920
You were saying about the beer, 
I'm saying about Japan. 

1563
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:21,920
So I'm sure I've got that. 
I'm sure I've got that right. 

1564
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,160
We've definitely played them 
twice, but we've never played 

1565
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:27,960
curious before. 
So that's certainly it's good to

1566
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:31,400
have different teams as well. 
You were saying about playing 

1567
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:33,720
somebody from Asia. 
It's good to have different. 

1568
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,120
We're not playing like let's say
we're not playing at France, 

1569
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:38,720
we're not playing at Germany, 
we're not playing in England, 

1570
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,520
we're not playing at Spain. 
We're playing somebody could 

1571
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:45,480
completely different. 
So I like, I like the way that 

1572
01:14:45,480 --> 01:14:47,240
they're going around these 
friendly matches in. 

1573
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:51,560
Particular, do you think that 
that the two friendlies are 

1574
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:56,320
handpicked in a way for like 
what we'll be facing in a in a 

1575
01:14:56,320 --> 01:15:00,960
way like either like stale of 
play or, or like the type of 

1576
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,440
teams that they normally face 
for how they play themselves and

1577
01:15:03,440 --> 01:15:04,680
stuff like that? 
You think that's a factor? 

1578
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:08,600
There, I think that I think he 
the the curious game for Haiti 

1579
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,960
definitely is Japan game. 
I think it's just a case of 

1580
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:15,000
getting somebody completely 
random because they don't want 

1581
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,240
to play anymore European teams 
as much as possible. 

1582
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:20,040
That's my opinion. 
A game. 

1583
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:24,240
Maxwell interview Maxwell gave 
an interview that I tuned into 

1584
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:27,680
and he said that the Japan game 
was one that was organised 

1585
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:29,240
before the draw was made. 
I'm sure. 

1586
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:33,120
OK, I mean that a good team. 
But he did say, you know, I 

1587
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,560
think we're looking at Ivy 
course potentially for a game 

1588
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:40,120
down in Liverpool after a Ripley
Japan And then again, 2 is 1/4 

1589
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:43,840
team for the three with the 
final friendly before the World 

1590
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:45,840
Cup. 
So yeah, and he did say he's 

1591
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,920
like Luke, he's like Clark comes
to us. 

1592
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,320
Well, last we see he says these 
are the sort of teams who want 

1593
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,760
to play. 
You know, I think I don't think 

1594
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:55,680
it's just a case of, you know, 
who's in that confederation. 

1595
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,800
I think there has been a little 
bit of thought towards playing a

1596
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,440
team. 
They think we'll give them the 

1597
01:16:01,440 --> 01:16:04,840
experience they need against, 
you know, the the three teams 

1598
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:06,320
we're going to be up against the
World Cup. 

1599
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:08,680
And he said, and then it's our 
job to this goal and basically 

1600
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:10,480
try and organise that and make 
it work. 

1601
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:14,800
So I that's what they've done. 
And yeah, it'll be good to see 

1602
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,240
because that, you know, like 
like you said, and it'd be as 

1603
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,400
well. 
We're well versed against UAE 

1604
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,640
fun nation teams. 
We've all seen these sorts of 

1605
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,320
factures. 
It's a rare, rare chance in the 

1606
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:27,840
past when we've got. 
I'm trying to remember last time

1607
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:31,520
I saw this player team that was 
non UEFA I think we called. 

1608
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,240
With Mexico and. 
Peru, your bad Nigeria. 

1609
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:36,320
Yeah, yeah, Nigeria it. 
Was Peru, wasn't it? 

1610
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,760
No. 
Yeah, we played Peru think and 

1611
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,280
yeah, Mexico as well to right 
together. 

1612
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:42,280
Yeah. 
I mean, I'm trying to think. 

1613
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,320
Played the United States a 
couple of times as well in 

1614
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:48,400
recent years as well. 
Canada to Canada and Qatar, 

1615
01:16:48,480 --> 01:16:50,600
yeah, but like, you know, it 
doesn't come around all too 

1616
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,520
often. 
I mean that's I mean, if it is 

1617
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,240
the Mexico game, that was back 
when McLeish was in charge. 

1618
01:16:56,480 --> 01:16:58,640
So we're going back to at least 
about 2018 there. 

1619
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:00,800
I'm sure. 
So, yeah, it's nice. 

1620
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,280
It's nice as a fan to guess, to 
see these different play against

1621
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,960
these different teams and, you 
know, watch the boys. 

1622
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:10,040
But back, back from the Hamden 
against, you know, some of the 

1623
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:12,920
best teams in the world that 
aren't, aren't from Europe. 

1624
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,440
Well, thank you man. 
So you guys, I think we've 

1625
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,280
talked enough for today and 
we'll be wrapping up there. 

1626
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:22,040
Thank you very much indeed for 
being on James and thank you 

1627
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,560
actually would be an item. 
Great company as usual. 

1628
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:29,840
We like to get as many opinions 
on as possible for what's going 

1629
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:33,480
to happen in terms of around 
5:00. 

1630
01:17:33,480 --> 01:17:36,600
So if you've got a favorite, a 
favorite tie, do let us know. 

1631
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:38,600
We'll see what we can talk about
Friday. 

1632
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:43,080
It's podcasts as well. 
So as always, I would like to 

1633
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:46,040
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1634
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,040
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1635
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:51,640
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1636
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,720
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1637
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:57,320
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1638
01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:59,520
That's it for us. 
We'll see you again next time, I

1639
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:01,440
hope. 
Until then, take care. 

1640
01:18:01,440 --> 01:18:01,760
Goodbye.