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Hello and welcome back to the 
Scots for my podcast. 

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I'm James Scott and join us for 
this episode. 

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We've got Ben Crockart fresh 
back off the plane from his 

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holiday. 
Yeah, straight from the airport,

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but good to be back. 
And we've also been joined by 

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Gordon Shack. 
She had good things with the 

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podcast. 
He liked the first episode, and 

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he was like, I want in on that. 
I'm coming along. 

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Thank you very much guys. 
Glad that you had an extra mic 

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for me. 
Yeah, coming straight from the 

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pub. 
Yeah, I wait. 

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Yeah, me to start that attempt 
to soar up though. 

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But yeah, I know it's been 
welcome you into our studio. 

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Yeah, thank you. 
Some setup you've got. 

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Yeah, it's. 
Some very professional. 

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I wish you guys could see what 
we can see right now. 

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Yeah, I'm going to be getting in
trouble again for taking over 

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the entire living room. 
So. 

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But yeah, no, it's cool. 
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It's been a crazy week, crazy 
day. 

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Very good at the. 
Recording on the Sunday fresh 

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off an Old Farm Scottish Cup 
quarterfinal. 

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Ding Dong. 
Yeah, that was opera. 

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Yeah, stuff, stuff went down as 
about the the keeping it light, 

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but we'll get on to that. 
We've got an itinerary we're 

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going to work our way through 
today. 

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First of all, women's team, 
Scotland national team. 

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What a start. 
On the March, yeah. 

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Great start. 
Yeah, two games, twelve goals 

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and I think we mentioned off 
camera, great to see Caroline. 

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We are kind of bringing her club
form that she's had at Real 

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Madrid into the national team 
with that hat trick in the five 

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nil win and then obviously 
carrying it into the seven nil 

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with, you said, 4 assists. 4 
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way this World Cup campaign's 
working is it's actually pretty 

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hard to wrap your head around so
I don't blame anyone for not 

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being able to get it 'cause we. 
I was watching explainer video 

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off camera. 
I I tried to explain it to 

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Gordon. 
We sat down and watched that 

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video again. 
It was Amy Carr. 

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Amy Caravan on the. 
BBC. 

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Yeah, the BBC. 
We watched that, still going to 

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start it again. 
I was like, I was like again, 

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did I have too many tenants at 
the pub or is this just hard to?

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So it's basically, I feel like 
the easiest way to describe it 

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is the Nations League seems to 
replace the World Cup qualifying

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and because of that Scotland 
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naff to be honest. 
Scotland can't qualify for the 

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World Cup automatically. 
Directly, yeah. 

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Yeah, so. 
From this group. 

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Yeah, yeah, the teams in the A 
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We're in Group B4, so 
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finish last, we're guaranteed a 
playoff. 

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But yeah, you know. 
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seems like the better you do in 
this group, the kind of more 

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gentle a path you might get 
through the playoffs. 

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Obviously it's going to be 
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obviously with with the men's 
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is always going to be harder 
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There's fewer spots for European
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We will have to go through some 
tough teams eventually to get to

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World Cup. 
I think if I was to say, I mean 

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put a positive spin on on this, 
being in League B gives you an 

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opportunity to get a really good
head start and a really good bit

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a bit of momentum going as we've
seen this week with these two 

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big wins. 
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So you know, again, absolutely 
no disrespect to them, but it's 

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teams you would expect us to be 
beating. 

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But we've gone out and 
demolished and dominated both 

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games. 
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So this gives us a really good 
opportunity get form, get 

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momentum, get some goals up, get
a new system in place and then 

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when it comes around to playoff 
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rock'n'roll. 
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point there. 
Yeah, Caroline Weir, obviously 

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you captain. 
She's been a real kind of 

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Talisman for the team or she's 
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looked to, to be a real Talisman
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But I think so good to see her 
translating as you said, that 

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that that club form, you know, 
she was obviously playing at 

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Real Madrid. 
They're doing really well in the

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Women's Champions League this 
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They're in the quarterfinal 
against Barcelona so they've got

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a home and away tie against. 
Barcelona Balandor nominating 

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the club, obviously. 
Balandor but she is, she's 

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actually the second top, top 
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So it's 5 five goals so far. 
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there in Spain. 
But yeah, fantastic to see her 

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bring it back. 
It's good because that was 

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Melissa Andatta's first 
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Yeah. 
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Yeah, she would she took over at
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campaign. 
Pedroid obviously not long left.

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Things weren't looking good. 
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mean, I remember watching the, 
the the, the playoff for the EUR

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and it was just so far below 
what we expect of like 

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realistically a good group of 
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like in a good place. 
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to Luxembourg. 
The way this, the way this group

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is working, because we've got 
Israel as a team, they are not 

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every other group's doing this, 
but we seem to be doing like 

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double headers. 
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So we've got Belgium next. 
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That's a tough one, yeah. 
Luxembourg 5 nil away to 

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Luxembourg and then we came home
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So in Luxembourg it was a weird 
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and McGovern scoring and then 
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McGovern and Clark getting on 
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Double for both and then 
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got their goals too. 
Plus like I said, 4 assists from

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Carly and we are so not too bad.
But then it's April, they have 

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their next fixtures double 
header against Belgium, first of

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those the Easter Rd. 
We'd encourage people to try and

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get tickets if they are are, you
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Available, yeah. 
Well it's free if you're a 

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Scotland supporters member. 
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I mean, I've got my ticket, 
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people on as well. 
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So they sometimes, I mean, I 
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to get through to Glasgow for a 
game if you're local, great 

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opportunity, but. 
Good, good, good, good. 

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Good atmosphere as well. 
Real family friendly like. 

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Unfortunately I was meant to be 
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Unfortunately chickenpox reared 
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was going to take my wife and 
daughter were going to come and 

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for the three of us to go it 
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lbs. 
So I got my ticket for free. 

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Kids ticket was free and a tenor
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can't say fairer than that kind.
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can, because you might see me 
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This was this was literally the 
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But we're just check, yeah. 
Absolutely nothing about the 

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podcast, just where can I get 
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We had like after the first 
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it's let's like reach out 
feedback from different people. 

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Gordon's like it's great. 
I want to come on. 

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Other folk were like, oh, like 
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like that. 
Everyone asked personally, I 

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just went where did you get the 
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So like, yeah, I mean the. 
Other people don't. 

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Don't gatekeep that you have to 
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You have to gatekeeper. 
The thing is it's it's like it's

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an old, it's score draw, but 
it's like I bought out a buttons

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in Dunfermline maybe 10 years 
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So I stay off the topic of 
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Oh, OK, that's like, you know 
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there. 
It's going in the Scottish Cup. 

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Finn could your team has spared 
me a little bit of pain and not 

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let my local rivals get into a 
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What happened? 
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I I luckily was not watching it.
It was away in Portugal and 

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couldn't find, well, not 
surprisingly, I couldn't find a 

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a pub that was showing 
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And yeah, horrific. 
Wasn't I'm, I'm not overly 

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surprised by the result, but the
performance and the scoreline 

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where it could have actually 
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Was just a fracking goal 
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I mean, he's had he's wound up 
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but I mean, it's such a joke. 
Yeah, include me, I I include 

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myself in that. 
But I mean, there's a sniff of 

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offside in that goal. 
The the head, the defender, the 

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headers at clear is under 
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I guess you could say if I'm an 
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would have ruled that out. 
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They weren't covering that game 
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and he's didn't fair play term. 
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1 now and Aberdeen's chasing 
from that point and then Thomas 

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grabs two goals after him and 
like Aberdeen, the family's 

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outside by that point. 
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it'll be the first year where 
Aberdeen's not Hamden for four 

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years. 
So yeah, at this point and but. 

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Not reigning champions out. 
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I was. 
I was, I think. 

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Clanging on to that last. 
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So the amount of times I've used
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was the last kind of hope I had 
for the season because obviously

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leagues done were clearly bottom
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possible. 
And now the job is just don't 

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get scraped into a relegation 
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Honestly, did you ever start 
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Cup semi final included that? 
No, I didn't if you know in the 

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well there's no in the comments.
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got to a Scottish Cup semi final
this is a few that spring to 

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Ross County and it's 201020170. 

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Could have been a night. 
So that's a shout. 

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When they got to the final 
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Yeah, yeah, that's can't really.
Oh, another one. 

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Yeah, if you don't let us know 
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Dunfermline will be at Hampden 
against one of Falkirk Celtic or

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and then St. 
Mirrenor Partick Thistle tonight

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which? 
Is going on tonight. 

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So obviously Falkirk won two, 
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That was Yeats and Stewart 
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Stewart obviously in great form,
Great Fork came back on. 

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He was on loan at Dunfermline 
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returned to Falkirk and he he's 
he's settled in quite well to 

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the squad, grabbing goals I did.
See him I did see a comment 

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online someone saying that he 
has Jamestown written all over 

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him. 
You know, let's see, let's let's

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see if he makes a bigger move, 
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See where Shanklin ends up at 
the end of the track window but 

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no is rise from. 
What is it? 

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The city? 
What the 7th? 

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Uni student? 
Yeah, the 7th tier. 

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Shared a pitch. 
I know, I know a boy that should

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have pitched on my head what he 
was like. 

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He was like prattling on. 
He's really good. 

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He's really good and. 
He's not bad, yeah, 7th year 

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start of last season, then we'll
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at Dunfermline and yeah, he's 
banging him in I think. 

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Yeah, he scored a hat trick in 
the Premiership, did you Scored 

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a couple of races and yeah, he's
really kicking on. 

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And I think we mentioned off 
camera that with the injuries 

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we've got in the Scotland squad,
it might not be about outside 

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show. 
Obviously it's a yeah. 

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It's a friendly, definitely, 
yeah. 

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I saw him, I saw I saw James 
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talking him up for for Scotland 
as well, talking about his all 

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around games, really good 
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He's a Cali, he's pacey and 
obviously he's finishing as 

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well. 
And again, like you say, we're 

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not overly blessed for forward 
options or also we have forward 

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options in the Scotland team 
that you know exactly what 

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you're going to get from them. 
So I'm sure we're going to talk 

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about it. 
But this, this camp in March, I 

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think it's the opportunity, 
given that Clark will know 

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ultimately what most of his 
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the summer. 
Probably 18 of exactly 23 or 26 

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because. 
He's so loyal and that's the 

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team he's got. 
Yeah, it's a great opportunity. 

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I think there'll be a lot of 
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squad in March, like Mark 
Leonard as well, was getting 

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linked, yeah. 
Yeah, he got there was a story 

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yesterday about him potentially 
getting called up. 

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I think I I said on the last 
podcast, I said wild card and 

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you you went Mark Leonard, not 
that Mark Leonard. 

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That's horrible show, No. 
I did that. 

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I did not see as a horrible. 
I just said. 

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You said that was really rude. 
Said it has maybe, maybe it was 

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a bit rude, but it was, you 
know, it is the most competitive

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area of the pitch in terms of 
the Scotland squad. 

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Yeah, obviously. 
And I think we, you also tapped 

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Elliot. 
What? 

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One of the one thing I'd. 
Say was one would get an FN but 

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not both. 
But yeah, no, things are going 

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good. 
Yeah, Ellie, what gave us a 

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following Instagram the other 
day as well. 

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So good lad. 
I'll be definitely support him a

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bit more. 
Now, yeah, but we'll talk about 

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Mother in a minute once we've 
wrapped up the Scottish Cup 

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stuff. 
So I, Dunfermline and Falkirk 

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were the first teams into the 
semi final draw hasn't been made

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as of right now. 
So you guys are going to make 

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tonight. 
Get me tonight. 

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We we're just going to have to 
guess who's won out at party can

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sit man, Obviously sit man will 
be favourites there. 

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Me and gorgeous. 
I will then. 

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I think, I think there's an 
upside there. 

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I genuinely think. 
There is, I think, fate bookies.

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Surely they'll. 
Be all well bookies, yeah, but 

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in the Premiership St. 
Mirren have been Yeah, all 

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again. 
In the cup, though. 

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Yeah, well, all right, the cups,
if they hadn't won the Cup, I 

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think Stephen Robinson would 
probably be sacked. 

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Yeah. 
So. 

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But again, I think, I think I 
think in, in in the same way 

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that I think you could kind of 
smell and upset in the air last 

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night with Dunfermline against 
Aberdeen. 

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Yeah, just the general mood 
music around Aberdeen and also 

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St. 
Mirren just recently. 

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The form just has not been 
there. 

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I think Partick will be 
answering their job. 

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It's crazy. 
Could. 

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You imagine that would be like 
Hampden semi final of 

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Dunfermline versus Partick? 
Yeah, goodness me, felon Falkirk

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that'd be that's I mean, they're
they're rivals to degree. 

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Yeah, so I say to the Greeks, 
holds tightly 5. 

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Derby I think the best would 
probably be Falkirk and Celtic 

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because I think they'd be the 
team that would give them the 

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biggest run for. 
You're looking for the. 

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I just want. 
Final get put out. 

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Imagine like a Falkirk 
Dunfermline final. 

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That's what I want to see, 
honestly. 

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That's that's a shot of glory 
level. 

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Same thing were mentioned there.
Interesting game I blocks and 

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last few hours has come to pass.
Yeah, and Celtic didn't 

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register. 
I mean we didn't see them 

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register and we also noticed on 
the stats apps not a single 

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shot. 
In 120. 

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Not even a short target, a shot.
Until the penalty. 

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Shot until the penalty. 
Shot for that goal, but that's. 

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A goal My Ada was ruled out. 
Which, which again, that looked 

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so tight and obviously I, I 
appreciate when they do the kind

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of the angles and replays, the 
broadcast angles are different 

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to what the V are looking at, 
certainly from the screen that 

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we were looking at. 
Again, we're looking at a big 

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projector. 
Maybe wasn't a sharp image. 

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It's hard to see. 
I think it was from scales flick

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on maybe. 
I think he's he's come back from

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an offside position to flick the
ball on. 

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Yeah. 
And then when he headed it and I

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was like, offside there. 
So I think he's come from an 

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offside position. 
Yeah, I guess so tight. 

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And then obviously Rangers 
scored and that was ruled out. 

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But I mean, you, you said at the
time you're like, I think Mark 

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VAR might intervene here. 
And I mean, you got the replay. 

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You only handballed it twice. 
Yes, when you saw when you when 

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you it was it was you like it. 
Like I said, like I said in the 

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pub, it was one of those ones 
when you see it from the wide 

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angle, the scramble inside the 
so many players, it's pinging, 

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it's deflecting the ball ends 
off the back of the net and I 

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turned turned to James. 
I said this has got AVAR rule 

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out written all over it. 
And then, like you said, you 

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should be there to be fair as 
him. 

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I guess the defender tries to 
hook it clear and his arm just 

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happens to be there. 
It comes off his arm. 

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It was like this looks like he's
basically. 

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Punched it into the net, yeah, 
but. 

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You can things he goes to be 
celebrating with his arms. 

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In the air, convinced. 
With celebrations it. 

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Really knows though. 
No, but there's no. 

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This goes crazy like Bar is, 
yeah, if you make it because Bar

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is going to rule it out. 
But like, he was so convinced 

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with celebration. 
I was like, oh, maybe not Like 

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he looks quite adamant that's 
going to stand. 

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Then you saw the replay and I, 
like a chuckle, went around the 

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pub like everyone was watching 
because they're like, that's so 

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ridiculous. 
Yeah. 

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So game, game to pass 120 
minutes played. 

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Celtic have not had a shot on 
target. 

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Rangers was a good game like. 
Rangers like for. 

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For a nil, nil. 
No, it was, it was one of those 

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nil Nils. 
It was good fun. 

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It was intense. 
Well, I think obviously. 

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Rangers point of view because 
they were just the most anytime 

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you looked up dominant, they 
were around the box yeah, 

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Celtics 18 yard box was just 
penned in and you just couldn't 

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really like just break the dam 
there and get in. 

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I mean obviously they were they 
were missing but I think I think

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it was hinted at in the pre 
match with Martin O'Neill. 

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But like obviously Cal McGregor 
and Karen Tierney both missing. 

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Like obviously no one at that 
club, at Celtic, this season's 

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had a brilliant season, apart 
from maybe Negrin is the one. 

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That's the one outstanding 
player there. 

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Sometimes been a scapegoat for 
Celtic fans. 

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But you know, even even with 
that context, like these are 

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still big, big, big players for 
Celtic to be missing for a trip 

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to Ibrox. 
And you're right, they they, 

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they, they really struggled to 
get any foothold in the game all

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game. 
Yeah, I, I think I heard a stat 

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when I was you. 
You showed me obviously the, 

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the, the, the scenes that came 
after the game, which we'll get 

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onto, but it was something like 
they're a fourth ever when Ibrox

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in the Scotch Cup and their 
first, oh, since 1950s. 

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Yes, I'm in crisis. 
Yeah. 

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And they? 
Probably didn't meet, I mean. 

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Yeah, we meet in the semifinals 
usually. 

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Yeah, yeah, they. 
Forgot to heat up the balls 

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this. 
Time. 

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Yeah, they keep the balls, that 
is. 

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It joking for legal reasons. 
That was a joke. 

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That was if there's anyone from 
this, that was a joke. 

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Yeah. 
So I penalty shout. 

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Rangers, having been on top for 
the whole game, managed to put 

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two over the bar. 
Including Tavernier, like I 

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said, again, libel, the meme of 
penalty to Rangers. 

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Tavernier scores. 
He's the one that puts it over. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
So I get like, like we said 

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there, so Celtic go to Ibrox, 
play 120 minutes, don't have a 

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single shot on goal and then 
Rangers, the keeper doesn't even

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have to make a save in the 
shootout and. 

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Both. 
Both penalties over the. 

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Bar and it's Thomas Kevan Shara.
Shara. 

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Yeah, that scores the winner and
then just bedlamber UPS. 

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Obviously Celtic progress to the
semi finals, the Celtic and the 

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first time they've had the broom
on stand in a while, which is 

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disappointing, is a spectacle. 
You know, it really helps, 

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Scott. 
It's an advert for Scottish 

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football. 
You know, same in Edinburgh, 

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Darby, when you've got the full 
away end, it just looks good and

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I think the Celtic fans 
obviously spoil it. 

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Spell onto the patch union bears
then, which who are at the 

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opposite end of the pitch behind
the goals. 

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Don't know the name at stand, 
but you know, opposite from the 

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brilliant stand they come 
spelling onto the pitch and it 

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looks like it's kind of fizzling
out. 

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But I mean, Celtic players 
aren't really helping themselves

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in the way because not blaming 
the group, but that Thomas 

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Vanchara, he's taking selfies 
with guys like you. 

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Don't not naturally you would 
expect that again like Celtic, 

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Celtic, I think it frankly all 
all teams that would win cup 

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game at Ibrox, they'd go to 
their own fans like that static.

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No, no, go to your own fans. 
And it's the fact they've gone 

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up the other end and then they 
found their fans on the pitch. 

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Yeah. 
And then before you know it, 

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again you see the clips. 
I think O'Neil as well. 

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He's he's on the pitch and he's 
got fans running up to him 

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grabbing a selfie with him. 
And again, in that moment, 

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you're like, what can you do? 
Yeah, they they make, they get 

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off the pitch of. 
Fair, I can accosted someone for

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a selfie today. 
You did, yes. 

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Do share Share with. 
So basically I was saying the 

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football realm, there was a big 
result for Scotland, the rugby 

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yesterday, man. 
The biggest result, a record, 

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was. 
A huge result and captain. 

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See only two Pilates. 
You know, 2 Pilates. 

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I mean, thank you for that. 
Yeah, I was. 

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Yeah. 
I've got it wrong every time 

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I've said it, so go ahead and 
save me there. 

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One more time. 
See you only two. 

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O'clock Sione tipple or two. 
I was walking the dog down to 

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Stockbridge and I turned the 
corner and there he is just 

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killing about in the street by 
his son. 

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So as you know, I'm, yeah, I'm 
crazy fan Shara, but I didn't 

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really give Sione much an option
there. 

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Yeah, come on, let me take a 
fool. 

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So do your impression of what 
you said about your dog. 

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He's saying no, no, he's like, 
he's like, he was just a good 

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impression. 
But, you know, he had his wee 

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boy and he was like, oh, let's 
see all this guy's doggy and 

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like. 
Do the voice, do the do the 

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voice? 
What's that said? 

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Blue look, my son, nobody, he 
said. 

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He's like my son. 
He's like, leave my son a little

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doggy. 
I was like, I was like. 

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Great. 
But things Ziggy can be, yeah, 

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Ziggy was like not face at all. 
So. 

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He seems like a sound guy. 
Just to very quickly be on this 

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tangent, did you see the moment 
between him and Princess Anne 

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yesterday after the game? 
This is because, again, if you 

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saw it the last time after the 
Calcutta Cup win, when we beat 

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England, Sione goes up to get 
presented with the trophy and 

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he's a very obviously very 
emotional person, a very big 

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person, big personality, big 
guy. 

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He just instinctively goes in to
hug Princess Anne, which 

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obviously with like Finners 
watch the crown, you know, like 

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royal protocol not allowed. 
You can't do that. 

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You can't do that. 
You can't hug Princess Anne. 

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I love it. 
So that became a bit of a 

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talking point after that game. 
So then yesterday we beat 

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France, record result, biggest 
win over France ever. 

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We stuck 90 points. 
Unbelievable. 

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Unbelievable goes up and then 
like you say, they both see each

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other, they both gotta go hug. 
Nah. 

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And it was. 
Just class formal, classic. 

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Kept it, kept it, kept it 
formal. 

449
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,960
And then yeah, I got the self 
with him. 

450
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:03,400
I know I'm going up it myself. 
Yeah. 

451
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:04,960
And I make Grant and Hanley like
10. 

452
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,880
Oh yeah, come on. 
I was like, what's going on? 

453
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,400
I felt like I was like a 
simulation. 

454
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,720
I was like, you know, Scotland 
captain being on Scotland 

455
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,640
combinated as Walker so. 
Grant and Hanley come on the 

456
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,040
podcast, please. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

457
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,760
I was too nervous. 
I was like. 

458
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,760
Neighbor. 
Yeah, Grant. 

459
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,040
Anyway, right. 
So what we're talking about 

460
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,000
this? 
Oh, yeah, Yeah. 

461
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,240
And like, yeah. 
And I think this, there was then

462
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,200
the ringing bears, it looked 
like they're going off, then 

463
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,120
come back up. 
There's like flares getting 

464
00:20:30,120 --> 00:20:31,960
chucked in there. 
Was an invisible wall for a bit,

465
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,360
and then. 
You meanie joke because the 

466
00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:35,320
commentators always go, oh, 
these are things you don't like 

467
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,640
to see and you always think 
these are scenes we love to see.

468
00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,800
But then when we saw the fans 
coming right across and the 

469
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,160
players going to be like, 
actually, these are scenes you 

470
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,560
don't like to see. 
You know the certain fans have 

471
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,160
got the spectacle the Brimon 
stand again you know they've a 

472
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,520
guest abuse that privilege in a 
way but porn onto the patch and 

473
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,120
then you just yeah, it's just 
it's not a great look. 

474
00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:55,440
But I mean overall I mean you 
touched on it. 

475
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,080
You said it just shows how much 
a pressure cooker Scottish 

476
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,440
football is a season yeah, 1 
result like that has like to 

477
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:06,680
like, you know an outburst I box
and you do feel like that stuff 

478
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,400
is bubbling over from the league
and the way a. 100% go it. 

479
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,400
It definitely speaks to just how
much kind of general disruption 

480
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:14,920
there's been in Scottish 
football this season. 

481
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,800
You know, the fact that you've 
got our resurgent Motherwell 

482
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,200
who've come out, who've come out
of nowhere and who are doing 

483
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,200
fantastically well. 
Obviously we can speak about it,

484
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,640
but also they they, they were 
derailed a little bit yesterday 

485
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,360
with that one. 
But obviously with Hearts being 

486
00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:30,720
so fantastic, getting that lead 
at the top of the table, there 

487
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,200
was a real intense energy and I 
think you could tell it, even if

488
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,600
we were just watching it on TV, 
you could feel the atmosphere 

489
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,360
from that stadium, the 
desperation from both sets of 

490
00:21:38,360 --> 00:21:42,880
fans to get the win because it 
meant so much more to both of 

491
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,600
them. 
Every time Celtic, Rangers, not 

492
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,080
bloody so I can. 
I can feel how loud it is in the

493
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,520
stadium just watching on the 
telly. 

494
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,080
Precisely. 
And again, it just speaks to, 

495
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,000
like I said, just how much 
pressure there is on both of 

496
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,920
those clubs this season that 
there can just be that amount of

497
00:21:56,360 --> 00:21:59,600
head loss from all involved at 
the end of a game. 

498
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,560
Like that head losses about that
was that was generational head 

499
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,320
loss. 
And it'll put like genuinely, I 

500
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,160
think it'll put real doubt in 
the minds of Rangers fans and 

501
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,640
Rangers players and Rangers, the
Rangers management, the fact 

502
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,000
that you know, you've had two 
games against Celtic in the last

503
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,960
week, not one either of them 
should have won both of them. 

504
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,720
You've got two goal lead in the 
first one and let it let it come

505
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,280
back to two each. 
And then today, like we said, 

506
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,240
dominant from start to finish 
and don't win. 

507
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,120
So like just going to put a 
doubt in the mind as to what 

508
00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:26,840
happens next. 
Yeah, and then Danny Rowland to 

509
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,400
you after the game was there? 
Yeah, quite something, 

510
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,760
obviously. 
Just kind of the truth. 

511
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,200
World that we live in, Yeah, 
trying. 

512
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,880
To shy away. 
From fingering. 

513
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,560
Just trying to shy away from 
anything. 

514
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,640
What was the question? 
Yeah, to see. 

515
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,680
Season at the end and he went. 
I didn't see anything in 

516
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:42,400
penalties. 
I didn't. 

517
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,080
I didn't see anything. 
I was on the tunnel, No, 

518
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,480
obviously Celtic staff I think 
was one of the the first ones to

519
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,200
get attacked. 
There's a blood and then I was 

520
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,520
about to say yeah. 
Well, that was from transfer, 

521
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,400
that was from the game, but. 
Yeah, I think again. 

522
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,880
It's look, it's one of the it's,
it's one of those ones that all 

523
00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,800
will come out in the fullness of
time, I'm sure. 

524
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,080
I mean, I'm sure you remember 
the initial headlines after 2016

525
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,720
when Hibs Rangers played in the 
Scottish Cup final. 

526
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,760
There's a lot of headlines about
how many assaults had happened 

527
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,960
on the pitch. 
And you know, there's a lot of, 

528
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,520
there'll be a lot of things that
will, it'll become clear in the 

529
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,960
fullness of time, I'm sure. 
I've just got 1 old farm game to

530
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,040
go left. 
If there's also, I'm sure 

531
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,600
that'll be a quiet affair. 
Yeah, yeah. 

532
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,080
Nice calm one. 
Yeah, so I obviously Simon and 

533
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,840
participle tonight, we don't 
know what happens. 

534
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,320
You will don't. 
By the time this comes out, 

535
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,560
we'll know what the four teams 
and the draw for the semi 

536
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,640
finals. 
So that'd be really good fun. 

537
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,960
Looking forward to that return 
to league action. 

538
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,440
So much praise on Motherwell 
over the last couple of weeks. 

539
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:39,520
I. 
Was really feel really big them 

540
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,800
up I. 
Feel like praise as was taken. 

541
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,440
It was you know, it was it was 
to the point people were really 

542
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,360
starting to go to the point 
where I actually said we're 

543
00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:51,000
going to do. 
I had a funny segment plan for 

544
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,520
this episode where we're going 
to go can Motherwell do you 

545
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:54,760
still want Hearts to win the 
league? 

546
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,560
And I'll go no. 
And oh, you don't want Hearts to

547
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:57,960
win. 
And I I want Motherwell to win 

548
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,000
and I go oh, so like so wise 
and, you know, so different. 

549
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,880
But yeah, obviously Motherwell 
have finally been stopped in 

550
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,040
their tracks. 
And it was by Dundee for the 

551
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:08,760
teams. 
Yeah. 

552
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,600
I mean, I mean it's not, I mean 
it's by means not, it's not 

553
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,080
over, but you know, when they 
really put them on the hunt for 

554
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,360
Celtic Rangers. 
They would have been right 

555
00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:20,120
behind them, yeah, and 
especially with the draw between

556
00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:22,760
between Celtic and Rangers. 
Yeah, but at dense park. 

557
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,840
Are we saying, are we saying 
this is the start of the 

558
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,920
narrative that Stephen Presley 
should be the next Celtic 

559
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,600
manager? 
A lot. 

560
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,840
A lot that I just see. 
A few of them too. 

561
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,120
I think Motherwell fans will be 
loving it if Stephen Presley is 

562
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,000
the next manager. 
Not Yens. 

563
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,840
Yens can state you can have 
Stephen Spain. 

564
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,440
But. 
I'm, I mean, yeah, for like, 

565
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,560
like Stephen Presley said, for a
job team, they've had some 

566
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,160
cracking results. 
Yeah, beat Motherwell, beat 

567
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,840
Celtic and Rangers this season. 
And yeah, the team probably at 

568
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:56,440
least expected to do it. 
Although Yensworth Lasso did say

569
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,560
in his post match that it's the 
team that probably given him the

570
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,720
most trouble of all the teams 
and they've troubled them every 

571
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,600
game they played the season. 
Face again. 

572
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,920
Again as well, I think if you 
look at you look at the stats 

573
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,800
from that game as well. 
I didn't watch full game, saw 

574
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,040
the highlights, but did seem to 
be similar to most other 

575
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,000
Motherwell games this season 
where Motherwell dominating 

576
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,760
possession, had more shots, more
extra. 

577
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,360
More everything. 
It wasn't an off day. 

578
00:25:19,360 --> 00:25:21,120
Exactly. 
It was an aberration. 

579
00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:23,040
Precisely. 
This doesn't necessarily have to

580
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,920
be the end of the road or a 
derailing of anything. 

581
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,120
It's a continuation. 
And sometimes you get games like

582
00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:29,320
that where it just doesn't fall 
for you. 

583
00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:31,880
You lose the game. 
But all the metrics were there 

584
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,920
that it's they were still the 
performance still seemed pretty 

585
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:35,560
good. 
Yeah, nobody was expecting that 

586
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,040
definite coupon Buster. 
For some people, I'm sure it 

587
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,120
wasn't. 
Do you even? 

588
00:25:40,120 --> 00:25:40,960
Watch No. 
Better. 

589
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,920
Experience, yes, including on a 
coupon that had Italy beating 

590
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,480
England in the Six Nations. 
So thanks, Motherwell. 

591
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:51,680
Yeah, first time ever. 
England first time ever in 33. 

592
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,200
Yeah, you just needed. 
Motherwell to be. 

593
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,560
Done the best The best odds on 
the thing on your. 1.85 odds, 

594
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,040
yeah. 
Yeah, crazy. 

595
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,280
Thanks guys. 
So I we've covered Scottish Cup,

596
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,720
we've covered league action, One
last opportunity to touch on the

597
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,520
Scottish national team. 
Just always a good opportunity. 

598
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,200
Yeah, always a good opportunity.
The World Cup, we're going to 

599
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,120
talk coming up. 
Yeah, we're going to how far 

600
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:16,480
away? 
It's 100. 90 days, 99 days until

601
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,800
our first match, if I'm not 
mistaken, because I think it was

602
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:24,200
100 days yesterday. 
Yeah, so, so not far to go and. 

603
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,960
You know what the bet the the 
best thing I was saying this to 

604
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,560
you earlier but so I've been out
of the house last week but I'm 

605
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,040
going to be back in the office 
tomorrow got messages last week 

606
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,960
that big package has arrived at 
the front door of the office. 

607
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,360
For me it is the Lego World Cup 
trophy, which it only goes to 

608
00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:42,120
show there is no limit to how 
much I'm going to spend on stuff

609
00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:43,720
with a World Cup logo on it. 
So. 

610
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,200
I'll get that tomorrow because 
I'm trying to go to well because

611
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,200
we're both going to all the 
games and the bank account is 

612
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,520
already struggling. 
Instead of getting the Lego win 

613
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,640
which was £150, we got this one 
which was. 

614
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,200
The new one won't us by. 
Yeah, yeah, obviously Gianni 

615
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,600
and. 
Fantino, thank you again. 

616
00:27:00,360 --> 00:27:04,440
No that was £20 off a TikTok 
shop so I hope it looks good in 

617
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,600
in the set. 
I could not afford the Lego one.

618
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:13,320
But you had a voucher. 
But yeah, I saw I what's what's 

619
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,480
excitement building there is is 
just creeping up news on the 

620
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,240
opponent front, shall we say. 
Morocco have parted ways with 

621
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,320
their manager. 
He's actually stepped aside for 

622
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,760
their African Cup of Nations 
final loss to Senegal. 

623
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,080
Obviously he took them to a semi
final at the last World Cup in 

624
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,800
Qatar. 
He's done quite well. 

625
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,120
He's done quite well getting 
them to the final of this half 

626
00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:38,680
con. 
It was obviously Morocco. 

627
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,400
So there's a lot of expectation.
So controversy, yeah, that was 

628
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,240
great. 
I don't think you could. 

629
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,640
More see that? 
More See. 

630
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,520
Yeah, more you do or don't want 
to see. 

631
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,960
More drama. 
So, but yeah, his his departure 

632
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,600
came with the quote from him, 
which was the team needs a fresh

633
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,440
face, a different energy and a 
new perspective with a new 

634
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,480
coach. 
I think the team needs a new 

635
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,960
lease of life before the World 
Cup, a new vision to continue 

636
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,800
progressing. 
My decision to leave as part of 

637
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,240
the team's evolution, now they 
have replaced them with Mohammed

638
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,120
U Abbey, there is obviously the 
predecessor. 20s coach. 

639
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:17,120
Yeah, yeah, Pre won the World 
Cup of them. 

640
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:23,120
So it's yes, Walid regular UE 
that's going out or Mohammed U 

641
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,600
Abbey coming in. 
Yeah, sure, that pronunciation 

642
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,160
was spot on as well. 
I suppose I YouTube that it was 

643
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,200
so, but yeah, it's a. 
Shock. 

644
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,920
It's a shock. 
I mean, Morocco, our team has 

645
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,600
been doing really good things 
recently. 

646
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,680
Yeah, I think I speak. 
I think #7 in the world right 

647
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,640
now #8 something like. 
That should have been a pot one 

648
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,280
team. 
Yeah, that's it. 

649
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,520
So. 
That should have been 100. 

650
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:47,840
Percent. 
I speak first of all when they 

651
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,200
say. 
I think I would far prefer them 

652
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,560
stepping away from the 
consistency of a tribexed 

653
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,160
manager that's done well over 
the last couple of years into 

654
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,320
the unfamiliar territory of on 
the 20s coach who has done good 

655
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,400
things. 
But I mean as past. 

656
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,120
Football, it's different. 
Yeah, so. 

657
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,160
I think, I think also, while 
also appreciating that they'll 

658
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,320
have a number of games, 
obviously we've got 3 

659
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,960
potentially 4 friendly games 
between now and the World Cup. 

660
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,520
Morocco will have ultimately the
same. 

661
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,960
So from us, from a kind of 
scouting and analysis 

662
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,280
perspective, we will have a fair
bit of evidence built up to how 

663
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,400
they're settling in with this 
new coach. 

664
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,920
So I think we should hopefully 
still be pretty prepared for 

665
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,720
what's to come. 
And impose himself on a team. 

666
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,880
No, it's not. 
It's really surprising, even 

667
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,320
just from a purely selfish 
perspective. 

668
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,120
Like if you were in a job that 
had the opportunity to go take 

669
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,600
your country to a World Cup in 
three months time, surely you're

670
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,360
doing that. 
I think you walk away after. 

671
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,360
Because I thought he was sacked 
because an employee. 

672
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,800
I thought, I thought he was 
sacked because there was a lot 

673
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,320
of talk when it was the Afghan 
final that there was, there was 

674
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,080
some reports where if he doesn't
win the half coin, he's getting 

675
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,480
sacked. 
Then obviously they didn't 

676
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,640
somehow. 
From what I read and this you 

677
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,320
know the depends if it's true he
made the decision to leave and 

678
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,280
he was convinced to try and stay
and they couldn't convince him 

679
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,000
to stay and his statement kind 
of backs up really. 

680
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,960
Or maybe he was pushed. 
You know, if you don't resign, 

681
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,280
we're going to sack you. 
Yeah. 

682
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,800
Keep your dignity. 
Who knows? 

683
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:17,760
I. 
Think you did a bad job. 

684
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,240
I mean, that final was like you 
said, like you know, when you 

685
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,200
could have won or lost that. 
I think there's there's other 

686
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,480
stuff going on there and. 
I don't think. 

687
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,760
Well, yeah, first. 1st at the 
managers feet. 

688
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,080
First African team ever to get 
to a World Cup semi final in 

689
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,280
2022 and then obviously they. 
Were they were everyone's second

690
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,880
team And yeah, 22 for sure. 
And now in AFCON, we were 

691
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,040
obviously all hate watching them
and, you know, they were one 

692
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,760
kick away from wouldn't it? 
Obviously that would have been 

693
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,160
very controversial. 
The penalty, the penalty was not

694
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,480
a penalty. 
And I think even Chiefs are 

695
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,800
higher ups at the AFCON. 
We're calling it embarrassing, 

696
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,760
but, you know, I think justice 
was done in the end and it 

697
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,920
didn't win it. 
But yeah, it's really 

698
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,360
surprising. 
Not long to go. 

699
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:02,680
As you say, only four, four 
games, but they're friendly. 

700
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,600
So it's different to, you know, 
competitive match you'll. 

701
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,240
See and then we'll see how they 
kick off against Brazil. 

702
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,280
I know exactly well five games 
for the playoffs yeah so yeah, 

703
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,960
yeah well return to the Scotland
camp. 

704
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,880
We had spoke in the previous 
podcast with injuries mounting 

705
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,720
up got another potential one can
Tierney could be for a little 

706
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,120
bit I think rumours of a 
potential broken foot. 

707
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,560
We're Googling what the recovery
time for time to sport my broken

708
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,360
foot is. 3 months, so 100. 
Just another 100 days. 

709
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,040
The World Cup that gives us. 
Maybe a weak wiggle? 

710
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,720
Room a weak wiggle room but not 
great. 

711
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,400
It's bad, hopefully. 
Not again, like, like like we 

712
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,760
were saying earlier, obviously 
none of us are, none of us are 

713
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,880
Doc, we're not doctors, we're 
not medically trained. 

714
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,280
And again, I think, but I think 
the one thing we do know as 

715
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,680
football fans is there's lots 
and lots of different bones in 

716
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,080
the foot. 
And obviously it's going to 

717
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,880
depend on which one's been 
broken, how badly, etcetera. 

718
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,080
Obviously I'm a little bit older
than you guys. 

719
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,760
I'm old enough to remember, you 
know, England before one of 

720
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,040
their major tournaments when 
David Beckham broke one of the 

721
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,760
metatarsals in his foot. 
And I'm pretty sure it was the 

722
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,560
Sun. 
On the front page of their paper

723
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,800
before the World Cup, they 
printed a basically scale model 

724
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,080
of Beckham's foot that you could
rub for good luck to to make his

725
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,000
meth parcel heal in time. 
So, yeah, there was it was a 

726
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,280
full summer for all of the the 
narrative around football in 

727
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,360
England was about a tiny little 
bone in David Beckham's foot. 

728
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,840
So we will do that. 
Maybe the Daily Record or the 

729
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,040
Sun will do KTS. 
If Cantini's going to score a 

730
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,880
couple more goals like that, the
World Cup against Denmark, I'll 

731
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,840
be I'll rub his fit one of them,
yeah. 

732
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,120
What's your driver in? 
This house will be lining up. 

733
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,760
If you want a massage, let us 
know. 

734
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,040
Yeah. 
So I mean apart from him though,

735
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,160
I can't think on any recent 
bank. 

736
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,280
So things have happened. 
Yeah, I think. 

737
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,480
We'll see. 
McDonald's still out. 

738
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,360
McDonald's. 
Yeah, McDonald's still out. 

739
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,320
He's doing a spy quad. 
Inflammation injury, yeah, he's 

740
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,400
kind of been living with for a 
little bit and they've just kind

741
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,600
of made the decision that I 
think. 

742
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,920
Yeah, it's the same with John 
McGinn, where he maybe if it 

743
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,520
wasn't the World Cup, would 
maybe push himself to get back 

744
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,680
100%. 
But I think with John McGinn 

745
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,960
said it with the EUR, he was 
like almost burned out. 

746
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,480
And this time he's going to feel
fresh, hopefully. 

747
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,400
That's 100% like I I genuinely, 
I would happily have all the 

748
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,960
guys injured right now, like get
them, get them injured, give 

749
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,920
them a nice wee break, little 
preseason, you know, to build 

750
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,880
back their build their fitness 
back up few games the end of the

751
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,440
season off the off to the World 
Cup. 

752
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,000
We touched on there, but John 
McGann been burned at the last 

753
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,160
year. 
I mean, I think we've spoke 

754
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,120
about this in the past as well. 
And I can't remember if we spoke

755
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:38,520
about it in the last podcast, 
but I had an interview with 

756
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,720
Daryl Curry and I think it was 
Michael Stewart. 

757
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,840
And I've seen that. 
And he actually they kind of 

758
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,040
said what I've been thinking 
because I feel like there has 

759
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:52,320
been a pattern of John McGann, 
who is a regularly very reliable

760
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,400
player for Scotland, quite often
one of our go to men. 

761
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,360
His summer performances in the 
international window in June 

762
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,240
have quite often fallible part. 
Don't remember I'm doing too 

763
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,320
much. 
The first year was second year 

764
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,639
was he was not really that 
anything not I remember the game

765
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:13,800
at Dublin. 
We were played the northern walk

766
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,920
of Ireland, sorry, and the 
Nations League. 

767
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,159
I think it was just after the 
World Cup, the World Cup 

768
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:20,320
playoffs, where again the summer
game actually. 

769
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,120
Michael Buffet, Me. 
Yeah, that. 

770
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,719
That long range one against 
Gordon three nil defeat. 

771
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,920
But I just remember thinking 
watching John McGann in that 

772
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,040
game going he must be absolutely
cooked. 

773
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,800
Because this is not the John 
McGann when no one may expect 

774
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,320
because because. 
He didn't even get a break. 

775
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,560
No, I mean he doesn't get a 
break. 

776
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,760
And do you end the season back 
into the EUR Nations League and 

777
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:40,920
then back to the season? 
Yeah. 

778
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,960
And I know, I know, I'm just 
echoing what they said, like I'm

779
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,880
guessing you guys agree this 
because based on what you've 

780
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,800
just said, there's AI think it 
is a good thing he's getting 

781
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,400
this little break this because, 
you know, he said himself he's 

782
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,600
like the first thing I thought 
it was World Cup when I got the 

783
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,720
entry. 
You know, I don't blame him, but

784
00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:01,400
like I think this really could 
benefit him because he'll be 

785
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,680
coming into the World Cup off 
the back of things and be moms 

786
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,240
on the sidelines. 
You'll get a nice 

787
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,160
reintroduction. 
Like you said to. 

788
00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:11,640
Building up his fitness and that
and we might hopefully peek in. 

789
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,760
Yeah, yeah. 
Just, you know, ready to go 

790
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,760
100%. 
When the rest because I get, I 

791
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,920
get, I think like like, like 
you're saying there, the most 

792
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,120
important thing now is just that
everyone is fit and healthy and 

793
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,440
well and ready to go. 
Because obviously, you know, 

794
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,000
we're all, we're all speaking 
about this World Cup opportunity

795
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,400
is going to once in a lifetime 
opportunity for us as fans. 

796
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,640
Obviously you got. 
It's not once in a life. 

797
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:32,920
But you know, but you know what 
I mean? 

798
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,320
Like 28 years is such a long 
time. 

799
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,560
There's so many folks that 
weren't even alive the last time

800
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,640
we. 
Yeah, my brother was born in 95.

801
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,360
This is it, right? 
And he doesn't remember that. 

802
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,560
And I'm. 
In 97. 

803
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,240
An adult, you guys. 
Barely remember it. 

804
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:46,840
I won't dox my own date of 
birth. 

805
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,120
I do remember the last World Cup
in 1998 just. 

806
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,320
So what was you in the top acts?
Exactly. 

807
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,200
I was literally, literally my 
first ever football shirt was 

808
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,760
that France 98 shirt, which I'm 
very, which I'm very proud of, 

809
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,120
you know what I mean? 
So for, for these guys, they, 

810
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,160
they deserve this opportunity to
go to a World Cup. 

811
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,560
And I think it would just be 
absolutely heartbreaking if any 

812
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:08,760
of them were to miss it through 
it. 

813
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,320
So I'm desperate that they all 
go. 

814
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,760
And like we said there, you want
them to be able to go in a way 

815
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,520
that they can do it, do 
themselves justice. 

816
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,800
Yeah. 
Yeah, yeah, but as well, I don't

817
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,280
know by when you're talking 
about guys that deserve to go to

818
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,080
World Cups. 
Andy Robertson, goal and assist.

819
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:22,760
Lovely. 
I'll go. 

820
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,640
Lovely. 
Reminiscent, almost. 

821
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,760
I know it wasn't the exact same 
sort of goal, but reminded me of

822
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,960
his first goal under Clark. 
Yeah, if I was like the boxing. 

823
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,840
Yeah, Cyprus, that was. 
Like Cyprus, wasn't it? 

824
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,000
Tucked into the corner quite 
well. 

825
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,960
Good to see him get a start for 
Liverpool again, even if it's 

826
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,400
just in the cup. 
Yeah, I mean, he could have gone

827
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,240
away because there's rumours of 
him going to Athletic Madrid and

828
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:42,920
and. 
Then. 

829
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,560
Spars and Spars was the one that
was deadlined there near bouts 

830
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,920
and he could have went and 
played 50 games, but it's 

831
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,400
probably, again, selfishly, it's
probably good that he's been 

832
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,920
still. 
Want him playing some SO. 

833
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,800
Yeah, he's no, but it's a good 
amount. 

834
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,800
Like you, it's probably where 
he'll be again. 

835
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,880
Like hopefully John McGinn 
peaking in fitness where he's 

836
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,080
not very. 
Just like you're just walking 

837
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,880
that tightrope of wanting them 
to like not wrapping them in 

838
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,360
bubble wrap and not wanting them
to play too much. 

839
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,960
You don't. 
Want them to be like, yeah 

840
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,640
again, not fit for the World Cup
either, yeah. 

841
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,480
I think as well the thing, the 
really, really nice thing about 

842
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,760
that period, like you said, when
there was the transfer of rumors

843
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,080
by the end of the window where 
he might have gone to Spurs. 

844
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,040
What I really, really liked, I'm
sure you guys enjoyed it as 

845
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,840
well, was just seeing the kind 
of outpouring of Liverpool fans 

846
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,760
online. 
Very different obviously to the 

847
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,960
scenario with Trent Alexander 
Arnold even there was a fair bit

848
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,000
of comparison. 
But again, the reaction from 

849
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,960
Liverpool fans being look, we 
understand why he'd want to 

850
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,680
leave. 
Obviously he's not playing every

851
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,360
game. 
Kirk has his first choice like, 

852
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,680
but good God, he's been a good 
player for us, a legend. 

853
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,280
Well, this is it. 
And again, it's it's good 

854
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,440
sometimes to take stock and step
back and think actually, God, 

855
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,000
you know what you will go down 
as a legend of that club. 

856
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,200
You know, he's literally won 
everything there is to win 

857
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,920
Champions League, Premier 
League, everything there is to 

858
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,800
win. 
And you, you, you were saying 

859
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,840
earlier in the pub, obviously 
his post match interview. 

860
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,520
Where I was going to say just 
like in terms of talking to 

861
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,280
Stocking, seeing what he's 
achieved, yeah. 

862
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,000
You know, he was asked whether 
or not he's proved a point 

863
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,640
tonight by, you know, Gordon, an
assistant, but not he might get 

864
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,600
a starting position for carcass 
and he just said, look, I've got

865
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,320
nothing to prove, which is a 
fairpoint. 

866
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,600
You know, he's achieved so much.
Look. 

867
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,400
At my locker, look at, look at, 
look at the medals, look at what

868
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,440
I've achieved for this club like
and the one thing he's missing 

869
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,360
the legacy. 
Right there only. 

870
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,600
Only a World Cup left, yeah. 
Yeah. 

871
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,520
So that's always led to me to 
say so. 

872
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,200
But but again as well, like I 
liked him. 

873
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,880
I don't know if you guys saw it,
but Kenny Douglasch in January. 

874
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,040
On the warm up 7th. 
Yeah, on the warm up said 

875
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,120
basically he hoped Andy 
Robertson stayed, not just 

876
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,280
because he's he's a good player 
for Liverp Pool and he's done 

877
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,680
really well, but he wanted him 
to stay, didn't want him to 

878
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,440
leave in January because he said
he deserves 100%. 

879
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,200
And I think that's exactly what 
you're going to see this summer,

880
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,240
which again, like we said, 
befitting of the player and the 

881
00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:57,720
man and what he's done for that 
club. 

882
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,960
So yeah, well, he can be. 
He can get his send off and 

883
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,520
send, send him straight off the 
rock up. 

884
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,880
Really was one of the first kind
of modern fullbacks in in in the

885
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,000
new era. 
Him and our Alexander Arnold 

886
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,960
kind of, Yeah. 
Reinvent revolutionized. 

887
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,680
Money with like Manny and Salah 
yeah ahead of them they're just 

888
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,400
unbelievable for that you're. 
Still a travesty. 

889
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,520
Didn't get nominated for the 
Balandor in 20. 

890
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,480
Yeah, 1829. 
Was the first thing I checked 

891
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,480
when Mcdominy got nominated 
because I was like, well surely 

892
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,040
Robertson was and he actually 
wasn't that. 

893
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,080
That is kind of it. 
Wasn't the first one since I'm 

894
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,880
Mccoist. 
Yeah, no, that shocked me. 

895
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,480
But yeah, Robertson is a good 
goal and I play that scored a 

896
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:32,960
goal. 
He got his first goal in Italy 

897
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,120
here today. 
Yeah, Verona not beating Lewis 

898
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,040
Fergusons Bologna. 
In Bologna as. 

899
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,440
Well, yeah, so good result for a
team that's like struggling at 

900
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,200
the bottom of this table. 
I think it's 31. 

901
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:43,840
I ended up. 
Yeah. 

902
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:45,400
Yeah. 
Great to do 1. 

903
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:46,880
I don't know if one of them was 
dislodged. 

904
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,360
Yeah, well, but anyway, get by, 
grab the second and it was, you 

905
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,200
know, it was a nice little 
striker school, nothing overly 

906
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,440
spectacular, but you want some 
confidence. 

907
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,840
Yeah, basically I'm, you know, 
get his first goal in Italy and 

908
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,400
hopefully I can kick on from 
there because he's someone I 

909
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,720
would expect to see in this 
squad, which will be getting 

910
00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:07,000
released in the next couple of 
weeks, maybe next week before we

911
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,280
travel, before we host Japan and
then travel down to Liverpool 

912
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,880
for either coast. 
So yeah, aye. 

913
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,360
We've covered everything there, 
though it's been a fairly busy 

914
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,840
couple of days. 
Yeah, yeah. 

915
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,800
So I think we'll call it there. 
But Gordon, glad to have you on.

916
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,000
I'm sure it's not the last time 
we'll have you and talking to 

917
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,080
just can't. 
Wait to do this in Boston. 

918
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,680
Hey, yeah, if we can get, yeah, 
one more check bag, we'll get 

919
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,960
this. 
Yeah, Mammoth studio of all this

920
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,120
equipment out and yeah, maybe we
can do a podcast in between 

921
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:40,120
games one, maybe 87 now. 
Not the class, but anyway, yeah,

922
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,360
it's been a good one. 
I hope, hope people are enjoying

923
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,000
the the show and the way we're 
now doing this new dynamic. 

924
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,400
It's been good fun, Absolutely 
brilliant. 

925
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,400
Good Jackies and Moses in the 
next one.

