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Welcome to the noise. 
Listen to the passion in Hamden 

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Park. 
It's. 

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John again. 
It's John again. 

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The great done by. 
Elvis Chancellor one for 

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Scotland. 
Hello and welcome back to the 

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Scots with my podcast. 
I'm your host James Scott, and 

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we're back for another episode. 
It's been a huge week in 

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Scottish football, like it 
always is. 

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What's the drama? 
Plenty of goals and plenty to 

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talk about. 
Joining me for this one is Finn 

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Crocker. 
Finn, back from your European 

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adventure, Aberdeen. 
Yeah, just a bit recovered. 

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And another man that's still in 
a good mood as Adam from Gorgie 

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talk. 
Adam, glad to have you back on. 

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Good to be about mate, good to 
be on. 

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So I mean, we'll just start 
similar to the last pod with the

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Jambos big game. 
Obviously the time that accord 

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and had the weekend fixtures 
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fixtures. 
We'll go back to the weekend 

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first because that was a game of
the week, Hearts against Celtic 

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at Tynecastle and it was beld as
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and Hearts run at three one 
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Now. 
I'm guessing you were there 

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Adam. 
I can't a bit. 

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I wouldn't believe it if you 
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I was there, man. 
I was there. 

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What was the atmosphere like at 
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into the night of the game, it 
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Be chicken full time. 
I really, really good atmosphere

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before June and obviously after 
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I think that's what McInnes 
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He's always kind of talked about
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whole like, you know, other 
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like the intensity attain 
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You can get the crowd like 
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have them that they're like a 12
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of the patch. 
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football like knows about like 
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you can get the harsh fans like 
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So I think he has tried to do 
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And obviously the game at the 
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fully feeling it and hearing it 
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pretty much. 
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less Celtic fans allowed in 
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So that's another debate for 
another pod I would imagine. 

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Yeah, because in terms of how 
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took the lead early on with a 
shocking on goal from Dane 

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Murray. 
He really didn't have a good 

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afternoon at all in Edinburgh. 
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second goal on him and then I'm 
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for the penalty as well. 
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for him. 
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wise not long after turning it 
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second-half performance just 
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obviously from the outset, 
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then nearly half their team 
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the Thursday night. 
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a warm up or what the hell has 
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But obviously, you know, 
Johnston just comes back, get a 

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hamstring injury, an actual 
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And then obviously you hear then
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So like that's again, three key 
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actual signing was seemed like a
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just because they had no 
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So obviously you see the line up
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they've got a lot of depth in in
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And beyond that, though, there 
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looked. 
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starting lineups, I genuinely 
fellas on paper that's quite a 

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close contest yeah, even if even
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and. 
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Clubs. 
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about the man you've talked 
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trustee. 
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magnitude of the game, you need 
cool heads, you need people that

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are a wee bit more experienced, 
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maybe tougher occasions before, 
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would never have been in before.
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brought balance to the defence, 
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haven't been like left, sorry, 
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of us on the left. 
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that kids not being fearless or 
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it's not really the type of game
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look at how Hearts teams play, 
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they were going to do it from 
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like the game like sort of high 

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level, like first half harsh on 
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it as packs. 
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like not sort of taunting them, 
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like, well, what he's going to 
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anything on us or we just got to
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any sort of out ball at all. 
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hadn't nearly no help. 
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half the kids through the game 
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So like, obviously that played 
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And yeah, let's say mother had a
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obviously so nightmare for him, 
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It's the same sort of nightmares
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well. 
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it's Braga because they did this
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Shankland, all these all these 
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together and see me became the 
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Hearts or side that McInnes 
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to be aggressive on the front 
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So yeah. 
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the the centre back pier and 
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second-half especially, just 
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to rely on old heads. 
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Forrest came on. 
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old heads to get them through 
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obviously at the time of 
concern, but since then also 

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talk Celtic, talk about Celtic 
later, but they also changed 

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management. 
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buzzing about the result. 
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it was 1 though, where I felt 
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seems to be all falling in our 
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Thursday night with injuries and
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I was really confident that we'd
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like 30 minutes to go or 
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And you know, that way. 
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had the the young boy up front 
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bizarre fantasy about our Celtic
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So it was out. 
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It was such a weird ex. 
It's such a weird experience to 

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like be on the on the front foot
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sold, you're used to just 
decades have just been on the 

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back against them. 
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That obviously keep, let you say
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us and keeps that gap. 
Mckennis was not trying to pour 

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cold water on it, but he said 
I've got a good finger on it a 

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minute, but it's only three 
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It's an important, it's 
important for us to keep 

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winning. 
We've got loads to do. 

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And after the first round of 
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says this is no gauge for where 
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He said once you get past the, 
you know, the the first two 

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rounds of fixtures and you've 
been holding away against 

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everyone, that's when you can 
have a feeling for you know 

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where your season is going to 
go. 

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Yes, I think, I think we talked 
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like you say, the two rounds of 
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And I think again the 
conversations that McKenzie will

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have an addressing room versus 
to the media will obviously be 

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very different. 
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as well, it's got a good 
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It's got a good sort of age 
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ones that know Scottish football
like he knows Scottish football.

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So don't that underlie any 
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And I do think they are well 
balanced and well placed too. 

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Caused problems this season, how
far it takes some and you know 

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where it goes. 
I'm quite kind of level headed 

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about it as well. 
Like I'm not not under any 

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illusions, like I've obviously 
put stuff out online all the 

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time about it. 
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I think we're going to want to 
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I just more think like it's 
about being in with a chance for

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as long as we can. 
And then if we are and then we 

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aren't. 
But it's all signs that a good 

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season, whatever that may look 
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Yeah, just enjoy it for as long 
as you can because I was in 

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exact same position last season.
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You. 
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Been there, we've been there 
like and yet it falls down and 

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can fold in very quickly so. 
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A little. 
Different the the difference 

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from this Hearts team to the 
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that Celtic are shite this 
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Oh yeah. 
It's a much worse Celtic and 

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there's no Rangers obviously in 
the sense of like they're there,

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but they're not. 
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I think we had a almost similar 
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games, then we'd won nine, drawn
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And the draw was at Celtic Park.
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We were two nil down going in at
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to to this time. 
I think it was a year yesterday 

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or year today that we beat 
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Shade Morris. 
So yeah, things can spiral 

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really quickly. 
So just enjoy it while you can. 

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And I honestly, yeah, I. 
Get those. 

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We get those comparisons as 
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So we've had the ones we have 
but didn't quite a lot. 

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Obviously they're so close to 
each other, right? 

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For last season. 
This season I think like the one

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for me though, is a heart, if 
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but the last time we had 
something like this was 

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Romanoff. 
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compare it to our own house and 
our own situation, it does. 

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And a positive. 
We feel different again because 

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I think George Burley had the 
exact same record as McInnes 

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after 10 games and then what the
chat was was that this time were

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six points clearer. 
His last time were three points 

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clear. 
Now I know that's nothing when 

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there's like whatever 20 or 28 
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But another key thing as well as
we don't have like a mod Russian

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owner, whereas now we have like,
well, we've got a former poker 

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player. 
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it brings about more stability 
than. 

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Well then template complain that
you know you see that and that 

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in. 
US, yeah. 

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At least you've got at least 
you've got something to go off 

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with Bloom as well. 
So like the analytics fingers as

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a tested improve and thing it's 
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Has plans a 10 year plan, like 
all where it's like rolling 

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offs, 10 year plans that yeah, 
hearts should go in the 

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Champions League in 10 years. 
So I think even bloom would be 

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like, yeah, that's definitely 
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So like, yeah, it was all a bit 
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there was funds and money there,
but it was all just just seemed 

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a bit a circus and even barley 
didn't so well wasn't good 

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enough and end up getting sacked
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So that's not going to happen 
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It's just like you see raiding 
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Celtic and I think Rangers will 
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forward obviously in the pod. 
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when January comes, it's about 
getting the points as much as we

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definitely all from that we're 
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And obviously Europe, you know, 
you'd imagine maybe they're out 

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of it and stuff like that. 
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will change the scenario for us.
And I mean, after that game your

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vessel went on to mid week. 
I draw on Paisley, which was a 

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good job. 
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happened in the time between 
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drama. 
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delivered in that sense where 
the Celtic statements and it 

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will basically Brendan Rodgers 
resigned, pushed. 

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I don't quite know what's going 
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Was it was it dismissed or was 
it resigned? 

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It was resigned officially, but 
judging by. 

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The statement. 
I think they agreed that he 

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would resign. 
Yeah, Derman, Desmond Dermott, 

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Desmond Dermott, sorry, kind of 
put up a statement that was just

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condemning basically everything 
that Rogers has done over the 

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last couple of months, his 
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backing, about the financial 
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everything like that. 
And they basically blamed him 

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for all the toxic, toxic 
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that's going on right now. 
So it did kind of feel from that

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statement that he was kind of 
pushed towards resigning. 

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Because he said, what was that? 
He said he went well. 

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First of all, he talked about, 
he said the conduct and 

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communication was not a 
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belief they had when they 
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And then like you said there he 
said Rogers talked in the 

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pressors about the fact he 
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said we offered them. 
Oh, can you hear my dog? 

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Bloody Ziggy. 
I'm sorry. 

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My dog just decided to come have
a drink. 

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Right next. 
No, I'll start again, Ziggy. 

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He's fucks sick. 
Someone all times. 

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Finish it. 
I'm just going in one second. 

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He's just going to finish his 
drink and then he's off. 

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Right? 
OK, right. 

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I'll start again. 
And then the contract. 

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Well, they said he said and his 
presser he alluded to the fact 

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he wasn't being backed. 
But then days when day and says,

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well, there was a contract 
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Brandon Rodgers said he wanted 
to think about it. 

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But to me, I don't that's not 
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that sense. 
I mean we all know that the 

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grievances and much of the 
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investment on the patch, not. 
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Your new contract. 
You can circle back to the the 

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squad against Hearts where you 
get a few injuries and suddenly 

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you're playing kids. 
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And they, you know, you're kind 
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Yeah. 
And then he also, but then he 

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says other things about Rogers 
having through control over 

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transfers. 
You know, nothing was ever 

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signed off without his approval,
be that outgoings or incoming 

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players. 
And and then again, there was a 

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whole thing about I mean, then 
they'll lack investment in the 

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patch that the fans unhappy 
about. 

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That's always obviously going to
be aimed at the board. 

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And I think when the managers 
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underneath that a wee bit more 
by saying stuff about not been 

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backed. 
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just a crazy, crazy situation. 
And then, I mean, he's gone now.

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They're known in the search for 
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managerial structures. 
Martin O'Neill returning to 

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Celtic and Sean Mooney coming in
as his assessment. 

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It was just to meet this 
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Well, I was going to say funny. 
Celtic fans probably won't see 

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it that way. 
Martin O'Neill, when was it? 

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Monday on talksport. 
The direct quote from him was 

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for Hearts to when? 
It would be amazing, obviously 

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talking about their title bed 
overall. 

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And then with an amount of hours
later, two days later, he's 

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taking charge of the Celtic 
team. 

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Was it, was it not the same day 
as that was published that? 

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Even same day. 
So I mean, yeah. 

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He was, he was really good 
social media content for me that

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day. 
Martin, Neil. 

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I bet you're a loving. 
Life actually and actually let's

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say a talk sport most days as 
well and I actually hit like 

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heard the statement about on 
basically it doesn't say like 

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hearts, it's like we'd won it, 
but I think he was like 

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basically like there's no going 
to be a better chance then. 

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I think he just over 
collectively for Scottish 

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football, I think he said. 
I'd be better. 

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Yeah, he'd be good, he said. 
It'd be good to see. 

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So now I am convinced that 
Martin, he was maybe an unsafe 

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job. 
So part it's all part of the 

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plan, just like the VAR 
decision. 

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It's that matter and all that, 
like so just part of the master 

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plan though. 
I mean, yeah, so I basically 

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that that all happened. 
You know, you could kind of draw

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your own conclusions from that 
more than you know, as much as 

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you could read about what people
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It's there's, I guess there's a 
true version of events that no 

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one will ever really know about 
apart from the people closest to

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what happened, like Rogers and 
Desmond. 

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A point that aim a point they 
were making as well. 

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I can't remember. 
I can't remember what other 

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media source it was, but 
somebody also said this will 

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that they found it really 
bizarre the age sorry. 

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It showed how chaotic it was at 
Celtic that obviously that 

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announcement was really late at 
night, right. 

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And then not so long after that 
statement obviously for Dermot 

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Desmond. 15 minutes later was 
enough. 

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Yeah. 
So I think it we're talking like

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11, nearly half 1011 at night or
whatever it was, right. 

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And I think what people and 
media were calling it as well 

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was like, how is he able to just
go in and make that kind of like

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however many paragraph statement
as only like our because he's 

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not even our like a majority. 
It's just a major shareholder. 

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Yeah, he's just the largest. 
Majority he doesn't majority own

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it. 
So like that, like how is he 

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able to just go and all these 
whatever? 

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Rich and he went to send the 
statement via Celtics website. 

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I think. 
It's somebody just let him 

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through that. 
It just do that the way he said 

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that. 
Yeah, he's the largest 

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shareholder. 
So he owns about, I think it's 

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33 to 37. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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So like they were like he's not 
majority is like over 50. 

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So like how is he getting away 
with just going in and doing 

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that without anybody else like 
agreeing to it? 

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But again, you don't really know
what goes on behind it. 

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Maybe it has got that much clout
as the fact is the highest that 

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you can just go in and do that, 
but it seems a bit wild. 

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But it can just works in on that
actually deals with PR knows 

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what a nightmare that is because
it just looks it looks. 

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Yeah, like, because if he's like
that, I want to make that 

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statement. 
Yeah, if he's like, I just want 

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to make that statement. 
And you're like, well, even if 

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imagine if you were in the room 
and you're like, I don't know, 

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that's a good idea. 
You could maybe just go, well, I

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don't care, so let's just do it 
anyway. 

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You're sacked, yeah. 
You're like, right? 

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Yeah, because I was still in 
Athens when that statement went 

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out and I think it was 12:30 and
I just had to check if it was a 

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parody account or not. 
Yeah. 

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I mean, it is that kind of level
of high jinks, almost like. 

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That is prime time. 
Just generational Scottish 

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football archives. 
Yeah, I mean you saw stuff 

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coming out about it and you kind
of are questioning like because 

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you some of the stuff you want 
obviously seen it directly from 

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Celtic. 
It's like you know through the 

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2nd remark of posts. 
Yeah, like the quotes and 

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everything. 
Yeah. 

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And you're like, surely that's 
not true, but I mean. 

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But see for me, see for me as 
well the statement that's ironic

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because the statement that he 
makes basically seeing this all 

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Adobe Rogers, right? 
It's actually the way he's done 

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it at that time in eight going 
through. 

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However, network needs to get 
through make the statement 

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actually makes a mockery of 
their structural setup behind 

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the scenes. 
So then actually from the 

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supporters perspective makes 
them look like they're right and

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the fact that they felt like the
board's just chaotic. 

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Get rid of the XYZ because he's 
only doing things properly and 

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all they're meaning directly 
more about obviously signings, 

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but it's still the narrow of 
that Celtic fans are trying to 

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push. 
You could argue that him send 

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statements like that, that time 
innate and everything that 

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happened with Rogers that you're
just proving the fans right 

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really. 
But the predicament they've got,

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of course is like you see a lot 
of it will then stay behind 

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closed doors after people look 
after each other in the 

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boardroom and it becomes again, 
like the toxic pocket talks 

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about Rogers being toxic. 
It seems like a lot a lot of the

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boardroom stuff is quite toxic 
as well. 

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So yeah, it'll be interesting to
see where it takes them. 

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Yeah, I mean, I was working on 
the Celtic game mid week against

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Falkirk and the amount of times 
there were chants about the 

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board were, it was crazy. 
I mean, when when Martin O'Neill

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came out, obviously it was a 
very warm reception. 

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They've obviously got fond 
memories of him mostly and the 

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amount of times the cameras kept
on panning to the board and the 

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amount of chants that are going 
on about them. 

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I mean, it's such a toxic 
atmosphere because of statements

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like that and he's really not 
helping anyone. 

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The Martin O'Neill appointment 
entered on for me as the way it 

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seemed to be described by Martin
O'Neill afterwards and his 

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presser at 70s. 
Like your mate phoning you up 

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for a bit of help and that's all
it. 

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As in like it keeps the fans 
outside to have Martin and you 

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there. 
Because it was that 

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realistically O'Neill set the 
tone early. 

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They'll go more direct, which is
what they've did, obviously did 

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that last night, but in general,
and it'll be a bit more reliable

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and a bit more aggressive than 
Rogers would be, certainly 

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domestically. 
So like, it steadies the ship 

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and it sorts things for us. 
Well, heck, they'll be hoping it

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sorts things forever long to 
take them to January and then 

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whatever happens, happens. 
But yeah, it seems like I'm very

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much like I'm phoning my friend 
for help sort of scenario. 

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We O'Neal. 
Yeah, I mean, that second Johnny

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Kenny goal last night was the 
most Martin O'Neill goal I've 

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ever seen. 
It was just. 

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I think it was Ralston floated 
up from about 30-4 yards out all

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the way to the back post and a 
Negron heads back across school 

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and then other header to the far
post. 

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So, Martin, any ball there? 
Yeah, that game. 

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Well, that was for now. 
Celtic wasn't at Falkirk 

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Stadium. 
Yeah, that was at Celtic Park. 

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Said about Beg your pardon, The 
other match going on at the same

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time was Hearts and Paisley. 
Now Paisley has been quite a 

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tricky place for you guys to go 
recently. 

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Adam, I've got here Hearts sex 
without a win and Paisley within

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90 minutes. 
So I mean a draws, I guess you 

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can be happy coming away with a 
draw there and you know in some 

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degree keeping keeping yourself 
6 points clear at the top. 

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Yeah, I think it was it was came
to the first game as well, would

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have came to look to us and 
thought we look to be a bit 

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vulnerable at the back. 
It's not something I would 

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expect to see. 
Like we can we go because 

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obviously do have a lot of faith
in the back lane, but I think 

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the physicality is at Mirren and
just like there's sort of 

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swashbuckling approach that 
seems to happen every year under

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Robinson. 
Like it works. 

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That's why they get to where 
they get to and and that's why 

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Robinson's always linked to any 
other job in the SPL whenever it

452
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,360
comes up. 
So like, but it's really 

453
00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:24,200
frustrating because it feels 
like doesn't matter what type of

454
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,560
Hearts team we turn up with, we 
can't seem to get one. 

455
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:31,800
So but in this in the same vein,
the positives would be that you 

456
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,240
know, by beating Celtic at the 
weekend and then getting the 

457
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,600
point they are obviously we've 
got the 2 Dundee teams next as 

458
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,680
well before the break, so at 
home. 

459
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,520
So like it puts us still in a 
really good position. 

460
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,560
Still 6 points clear chance to 
go further clear with input in 

461
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,760
the cup at the weekend when we 
played on D at home. 

462
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,040
So yeah, it's positive signs and
to be honest, we nearly snuck it

463
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,360
as well. 
Obviously there's a couple of 

464
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,480
dubious but far decision against
that matter when there were two 

465
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:04,000
one up which could they 
obviously completely undone us 

466
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,320
at that point. 
I think there was still 

467
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,600
obviously play time left but 
been two goals behind in a place

468
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,240
like that where record that 
we've got, it's not the best 

469
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,080
place to be in. 
But then equally with a game, 

470
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,680
we've come back twice in the 
game and then Kibori scoresly on

471
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,360
MC and T fractionally offside, 
obviously with the leg he 

472
00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:23,680
actually doesn't use to get the 
ball, but albeit is his leg to 

473
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,840
keep his balance. 
So yeah, unfortunately not to be

474
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,040
with the one, but yeah, fine 
click. 

475
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,960
It just shows another signee 
like character and resilience 

476
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,360
for that heart. 
Steam though, like as a lot 

477
00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:36,400
togetherness. 
It's six games in a row with the

478
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,960
same 11. 
So that's the first time we've 

479
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:42,600
done that in 40 years. 
So that as again, a surefire 

480
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,200
sign like consistency and trust 
in the players, but it's also 

481
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,720
shown as well with like Kibori 
and Magnuson who came in on the 

482
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,160
second-half, they actually made 
a positive difference to the 

483
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,760
team because we were looking a 
bit leggy. 

484
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,480
I mean, we play that as bigger 
game against Celtic and 

485
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,720
obviously are hammering and 
tongs for 90 minutes and then 

486
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,800
you go to a place like St. 
Madam with the physicality they 

487
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,560
bring. 
We were starting to look up a 

488
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,040
bit tired I felt, even though 
we're still going for that. 

489
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,800
But but yeah, the guys on the 
bench, like obviously they're 

490
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,400
getting kept out, so we are not 
quite keen to see like what will

491
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,320
these guys look like if we do 
bring them in the team. 

492
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:18,240
So do you feel like some point? 
Yeah, so I do feel obviously 

493
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,160
we've got big squads, there's 
going to be guys missing all the

494
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,360
time. 
Like that's just to be as. 

495
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,360
And we obviously weren't able to
move people on. 

496
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,200
So that's why the squad's as big
as it is. 

497
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,640
But like Kajol and Magnus and 
Kibori, these kind of guys that 

498
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,080
you could see them get in 
minutes. 

499
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,960
But I'm very cautious about that
as well in the sense that like 

500
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,640
you don't want to make too many 
changes because this is that 

501
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,400
elevens the team that's getting 
you to where you are. 

502
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,080
So I just hope it makes like the
odd tweaks and you know, if 

503
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,640
games are looking a certain way 
or, you know, maybe we get 

504
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,880
comfortable in a game, give 
people a bit more minutes and 

505
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,800
see what they can be about. 
And then it gives you extra 

506
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,760
options like you say. 
What is the in the coming weeks 

507
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,160
and months? 
Yeah, I mean, OK, right. 

508
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,440
I think we'll move on because I 
think this this episode and last

509
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,520
episode, there's been points 
where it's in danger of turning 

510
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,680
into the Hearts and Celtic 
podcast, even if they are some 

511
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,200
of the most exciting topics 
we'll talk about. 

512
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,400
We move on to the dawns of it. 
So we've got you on. 

513
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:13,400
Oh no, you were in Athens. 
That was, I'd imagine a pretty 

514
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,240
hard one to take in terms of 
league football, though. 

515
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,760
You're when the other night 
takes used to three wins in your

516
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,400
last four league games, which 
is, I mean, that's a big 

517
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,480
improvement on the direction you
were going to start the season. 

518
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,160
How are you feeling about how 
the season is at this exact 

519
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,560
point? 
Because it is kind of hard when 

520
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:34,720
you're juggling these two 
different. 

521
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,760
I mean, the defeat in Athens was
prayed, devastating sex. 

522
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,240
Now is, is. 
Yeah. 

523
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,640
I mean, it's as bad as it 
sounds. 

524
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,120
I mean, I mean, how did you get,
first of all, how did you get on

525
00:24:46,120 --> 00:24:48,680
over in Athens? 
And secondly, how? 

526
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,240
I mean, do you feel you have 
turned the corner a bit or is it

527
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,120
still a bit just too wobbly? 
We've turned the corner into 

528
00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:57,720
being an even worse team, if 
that's what you mean. 

529
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,120
That's. 
Not what was meaning, but. 

530
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,560
It was 6 nil going on 10 nil in 
Athens. 

531
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,720
I actually think that's the 
worst single Aberdeen 

532
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,000
performance I've ever seen and I
was at Darville, so that's in 

533
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,440
something. 
Jensen may be the worst 

534
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,680
performance I've ever seen in 
person as well. 

535
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,040
I think him and Keskinen were 
having a competition to see who 

536
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:27,200
could get subbed off earlier. 
Yeah, we we had a narrow defeat 

537
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,320
against Shakhtar. 
I think that's that was probably

538
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,400
our first good performance of 
the whole season. 

539
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,120
And then follow up with a four 
nil win against Dundee. 

540
00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:40,200
That was a good performance. 
But then kind of scrape to 

541
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,000
scrape the winner in Paisley, 
which was a really good result. 

542
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,200
But performance it could have 
easily been two or three Nelson 

543
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,440
Mirren. 
Then obviously that six nil 

544
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,480
defeat. 
I was in Athens, unfortunately, 

545
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,240
honestly, what a waste of money,
but you know, have to support 

546
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,720
the team and then lost at home 
against Hibs 2, one that could 

547
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,680
have easily been four or five 
that we conceded and luckily got

548
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,920
a win against Kilmarnock at 
Rugby Park. 

549
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,680
But again, I mean, the only 
positive from that game was the 

550
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,640
result and Dylan Lobbin making 
us feel debut because again, 

551
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,320
performance was absolutely 
shocking. 

552
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:26,560
So we've got Larnaca, Wayne, 
Cyprus on Thursday, next 

553
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,200
Thursday. 
Luckily I will not be at that. 

554
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,240
But yeah, I don't know where 
where we go from this because 

555
00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:37,360
again, it's it's shocking 
performances again and again. 

556
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,960
So I don't really see where we 
go from here. 

557
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,960
When I spoke to you back when we
met, we mean then had the pain 

558
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,760
before the Scotland game in 
Glasgow against Belarus and at 

559
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,040
that point I said to you pretty 
stand with Ellen and you were 

560
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,840
quite adamant. 
No, Backham, you know, and it 

561
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,280
doesn't feel like too long ago 
we had that conversation. 

562
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,160
It's just the man of the 
football sensei and it's just 

563
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:07,000
been too bad to stomach. 
Yeah, I mean, it's just he had 

564
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,880
favourites the whole time he's 
been Aberdeen, but he's got away

565
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,520
with it because of either 
results in the first half of 

566
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,240
last season or, you know, 
obviously winning the Scottish 

567
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,640
Cup in the second-half last 
season. 

568
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,520
It was it was Nielsen in 
midfield. 

569
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,360
This season. 
It feels like it's Jensen. 

570
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,960
There's a reluctance to to 
change things. 

571
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,720
I think he's been forced into 
from the backlash of the fans. 

572
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,360
Dylan Lobbin came and came into 
the side yesterday, had a good 

573
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:40,640
performance. 
But yeah, I don't, I don't know 

574
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,400
where we go from here. 
I don't know where I even stand 

575
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:47,600
because I think Dylan's got more
patience from the fans, 

576
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,640
obviously because of what we've 
seen he can do. 

577
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,320
Obviously. 
Yeah, yeah, it's it's not a year

578
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:56,920
ago where we were having those 
results. 

579
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,120
But obviously it's like, well, I
did it before, why can't I do it

580
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:02,520
again? 
But there isn't any sign of of 

581
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,640
those types of performances. 
And obviously it's a lot of new 

582
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,280
players. 
It's not the same squad as it 

583
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,800
was last year, but yeah, it's 
got more like you would go on. 

584
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,280
Yeah. 
I mean, yes, but Stuart. 

585
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,720
Armstrong's like what? 
I've not seen enough on the 

586
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,840
coin, but you know, from an 
outsider it looks like I 

587
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,000
thought, oh, they've done quite 
well with Bring. 

588
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,520
Recruitment in, yeah, I mean 
Kevin Nesbitt coming back in, I 

589
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,640
didn't think we'd, I didn't 
think we'd be able to get him 

590
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,520
in. 
Jasper Carlson, arguably one of 

591
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,000
the best players on paper and in
the whole league, he's played 

592
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,640
it. 
You know, Bologna was one of the

593
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,920
best players in the area. 
The busy, got European 

594
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,440
experience. 
So on paper, yeah, we had a 

595
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,560
great summer, got Alfie 
Dorrington back on loan from 

596
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,600
Tottenham. 
But yeah, it's just not really 

597
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,640
clicked on the pitch like like 
we were expecting to. 

598
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,320
I thought we'd have a tough 
season, obviously trying to 

599
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:55,760
balance Europe and the league, 
but I didn't think we'd be that 

600
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,520
would be set in in 10th place 
after 10 games with with only 

601
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:04,960
three wins and six losses. 
So yes, it feels like it's kind 

602
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,920
of reversed from last season and
I feel like for some reason 

603
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,480
Hibs, Aberdeen and Hearts can 
never all be good at the same 

604
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,040
time. 
It always has to be one or two 

605
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,120
that are shocking. 
Last season it was it was Hearts

606
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,640
and I think it's harder in the 
season. 

607
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,880
Yeah, I mean, well, I mean, like
you said, tabs here as well. 

608
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,080
They had both had Rangers 
midweek. 

609
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,640
I mean, in terms of how the 
table looks right now, firstly 

610
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,120
after the games, Hearts up top 
six points clear to Celtic who 

611
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,760
are on 20 points and it's quite 
tight after that. 

612
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,080
The pack, you know, from the 
tops, the rest of the soft top 

613
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,360
sex. 
Rangers on 15, Hebs on 14, 

614
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,680
Motherwell and 14 as well. 
And in Dundee United on 13. 

615
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,920
I was going to say Hibs could it
maybe been a little bit better 

616
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,560
off actually if they hadn't 
messed that last minute penalty 

617
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,800
against Rangers. 
That was Danny. 

618
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,520
What? 
Danny rolls second when with the

619
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,680
with his his new club obviously 
lost in the Europa League with 

620
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,760
them but he seems to have made a
good start to league football 

621
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,680
with Rangers with two league 
wins, one against Kelly at the 

622
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,440
weekend and then like I said 
Easter Rd. last night, not the 

623
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,880
easiest place to go and he got a
one. 

624
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,880
Yeah, that's Jack Butlin saving 
to Jimmy McGrath penalties in a 

625
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,280
row. 
Obviously he saved one when 

626
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,880
McGraw was at Aberdeen and he 
saved that one as well. 

627
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,320
So yeah, I mean, I say we're in 
10th place, but we are only 5 

628
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,440
points off Rangers right now. 
Yeah, unless when? 

629
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,720
You shoot the table is actually 
incredibly. 

630
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,160
Tight. 
Yeah. 

631
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:37,120
I mean, yeah, we've got 
Motherwell Hearts as our next 

632
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,560
two, so I wouldn't say those are
the best games to pick up those 

633
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,480
points. 
But you know, you never know 

634
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,240
what happens, I mean. 
That's part of the problems we 

635
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,960
have for Aberdeen because I 
mean, the first game of the 

636
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,080
season was one nil lost to 
Falkirk and then. 

637
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,560
Yeah. 
And then dropped points with 

638
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,640
Livingston. 
Yeah. 

639
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,400
You know the harder teams you're
going to play and you know the, 

640
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,040
you know the Blake was you've 
had, you've not played Rangers 

641
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,280
yet this season. 
Yeah, we unfortunately did not 

642
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,760
get to play Russell Martin's 
Rangers. 

643
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,920
No, you've not played Celtic yet
again before. 

644
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,040
They've arguably had that. 
They've not got a chance to sort

645
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,040
of new manager bounce or 
whatever you want to look at 

646
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,560
post Rogers bounce. 
So yeah, it's kind of like just 

647
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:21,880
as you're starting to pick up 
results. 

648
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,280
Yeah, not played hard coming 
into. 

649
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,000
Hard yeah, Hearts as well. 
Just as you've started to pick 

650
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,560
up results, you actually might 
be coming into the more 

651
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,200
difficult fixtures. 
I was just going to say, I was 

652
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,160
just going to say on those, 
those points you made for 

653
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,240
nothing like that. 
Most of them are where my head's

654
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,640
at where Aberdeen as well. 
Like I've not seen lots of the 

655
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:45,520
IT was I've seen the shark tar 
game, seen the offense game and 

656
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,800
I've seen bets and pieces of the
league games. 

657
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,560
And obviously I always look at 
like stats and other things like

658
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,440
that as well. 
And I just feel like if I said 

659
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,000
on the previous pod as well, 
it's like sometimes he's just 

660
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,200
living off other things. 
He's living off his good starts,

661
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,400
living off the cup 1. 
And it does feel like a better 

662
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,080
90 minute man Jim Italian. 
So like he's got that, that 90 

663
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,760
minutes that you cannot take 
away from. 

664
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,480
And it's still a special moment 
for Aberdeen. 

665
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,560
And and that's why it should be 
regarded as whatever high level 

666
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,800
it plays the government for one.
And that I just feel like the 

667
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:22,960
longer he's they are, he is not 
getting a tune out actually a 

668
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,960
decent squad of players and that
is the biggest concern. 

669
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,040
Yeah. 
I mean, if you look from the 

670
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,480
second-half of last season, we 
are in relegation form. 

671
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,160
Like we're averaging like a 
point a game for the lasts. 

672
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,720
I don't know. 
Couldn't score for ages as well.

673
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,280
Friend couldn't score for ages. 
I know it took us so many games 

674
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:41,840
just to get that first league 
goal so. 

675
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,880
And yeah, quite as well, but 
favorites, I think it does seem 

676
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:51,560
like he seems to stick with the 
same sort of like 3-4 even more,

677
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,800
but like same guys that again, 
it doesn't matter what he seems 

678
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,040
to do with them. 
They're they're no getting 

679
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,200
obviously they're getting the 
results to know, but you've hit 

680
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,400
the nail on the head. 
So it's like they're they're 

681
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,240
getting fortunate, which every 
result they get, you're looking 

682
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,880
at going part of the obviously 
the Dundee one begin you're 

683
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,200
taking that weapon to assault 
slightly based on everybody's 

684
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,200
sort of viewpoint. 
And we're Dundee at the moment. 

685
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,320
So like you look at the Saint 
Maran game again, could easily 

686
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,040
lost Hibbs game. 
I did see quite a bit of that. 

687
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,560
And I was an agreement like I 
felt like Hibbs could easily. 

688
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,280
I'm surprised Hibbs won a four 
or five. 

689
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,240
And that was that was the thing 
that we don't have as well as 

690
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,800
going to say against Rangers 
like they were actually so 

691
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,280
wasteful at David Gray was 
right. 

692
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,080
They should at least got a point
out that gaming Rangers, like 

693
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,880
Rangers were not they were not 
that great to be honest, that 

694
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,840
the game looked poor and helps 
again. 

695
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,800
Like they've done what they've 
done against Celtic and Harsh 

696
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,320
and they've done it again 
against Rangers. 

697
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,600
They played far too defensive. 
I don't know why Greece seems to

698
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,400
have adopted this approach 
whereby like if I set tight and 

699
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,080
then I just use a well, no, it's
sort of clutch and Bowie instead

700
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,840
of Boyle and Bowie and just mess
out the midfield entirely, then 

701
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,800
I might sneak a win or I might 
sneak a good result because like

702
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,640
he's maybe given that that team 
that he's playing a bit too much

703
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,600
respect. 
But there was no reason 

704
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,719
whatsoever to give that Rangers 
team any respect. 

705
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,080
They should have been at them 
for the start and putting them 

706
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,000
right on the back foot, 
especially like you say, Easter 

707
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,840
Rd. where this was a game that 
helps were going to be one year 

708
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,800
unbeaten at home if they did got
anything for that game 

709
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,520
yesterday. 
So that should have been more 

710
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,560
than enough motivation to hit 
them right for the start. 

711
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,679
But again, like I said, they 
seem to just have this approach 

712
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:32,920
where they want to set back, not
utilize their midfield and just 

713
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,199
try and counter them or or use 
belly hold things up and get 

714
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:38,080
them up the patch. 
It was a really strange approach

715
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,600
for Grey. 
Yeah. 

716
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:42,800
I mean, coming back quickly to 
what you said on Jimmy Tallene, 

717
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,840
I think like you said, he's an 
80 minute man. 

718
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:49,320
But also it's a bit of a random 
one, but I think it fits Derek 

719
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:55,800
McInnes or Jim Goodwin or 
someone of that caliber, I think

720
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,200
they'd actually be already be 
out the door. 

721
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,000
I think it's because yeah, of 
what he's done abroad and kind 

722
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,360
of the unknown Ness of him if if
that even makes sense. 

723
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,120
Like the allude of the fact 
that's like an overseas manager.

724
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,600
Yeah, yeah, exactly. 
It's like, oh, it's kind of 

725
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,600
unknown. 
You know, he did so well with 

726
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,840
such a small team in Sweden. 
But I think, yeah, like we've 

727
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,760
seen in the past, if it was 
Derek Mckennessy, he'd already 

728
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,200
be at the door with with the 
forum he's in and say, you know,

729
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,000
thank you very much for for kind
of for giving us such a great 

730
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,800
moment in our history, 
obviously. 

731
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,840
Can I throw certain random at 
you board right. 

732
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,040
Let's just say in the coming 
weeks, Jimmy Italine goes, Would

733
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:38,720
you take Stephen Robinson? 
You see, that's what my uncle 

734
00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:42,480
said and he, he actually 
suggested him as well. 

735
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,600
And I, I don't, I don't know, 
because if you're appointing 

736
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,600
someone like that, I don't 
actually know what your ambition

737
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:50,880
is. 
Is it to steady the ship? 

738
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:55,640
Is it to aim for cups like? 
What? 

739
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,440
What do you think Stephen 
Robinson is capable of doing 

740
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,960
Aberdeen with that squad? 
Well, so exactly. 

741
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,440
So I find that's the key myth. 
Like when it was harsh, it was 

742
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,000
like McInnes or Robinson and 
like what that was getting toted

743
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,960
about like domestically, who 
should we go for? 

744
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:09,760
Oh. 
McInnes all. 

745
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,840
Day and it's like obviously it's
McInnes all day right but with 

746
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:17,000
Robinson I think it's more again
that fact of like how well he's 

747
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,240
done with us at Madden team 
yeah, when you look at budgets 

748
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:22,280
and whatever he's been so 
consistent with them. 

749
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:27,640
But again, it's like sacrifice 
and maybe like not a pretty 

750
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,040
stale of football at times to 
just be trying to bully teams. 

751
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,640
But again, that really depends 
on the personally, I'm very much

752
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,480
if you get the one, I'm not 
really bothered how we're 

753
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,280
getting the one like if we've. 
Got 100%. 

754
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,160
We've got a hard working team 
like if the entertainer and 

755
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,120
that's just the bonus point of 
the actual weight getting the 

756
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,640
three points. 
So yeah, I just I don't know. 

757
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,240
It's not about Robinson 
Albertina. 

758
00:36:49,240 --> 00:36:52,440
I think like for him as well, it
should be seen as like an 

759
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,080
opportunity for him to challenge
himself because obviously the 

760
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,000
objectives Aberdeen given the 
size and the history and the 

761
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,400
budget is different for Saint 
Milan. 

762
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,680
So there should be, it should be
something where Robinson. 

763
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,600
Thanks, Lee, I'm going to go and
do something with that and that 

764
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,120
step up for me in my sense of 
like what Aberdeen looked to 

765
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,280
achieve. 
So yeah, I don't know. 

766
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,280
It'd be interesting to see like 
if that did ever materialize. 

767
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,240
Yeah, I mean, a lot of people 
didn't ever think that McInnes 

768
00:37:15,240 --> 00:37:18,200
would get another shot at, you 
know, one of the big clubs, and 

769
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:20,840
obviously he's been given that 
and look what he's done. 

770
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,440
So maybe. 
Man Hearts are a big club fan. 

771
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,640
Well, part of I think they're, 
they're clearly the fourth 

772
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:32,680
biggest club in Scotland. 
This season I'm just trying to 

773
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,880
see if. 
We could get by you, Adam. 

774
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,560
There's a joint appreciation 
here mate. 

775
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,160
Yeah, 2 European trophies mate, 
2 European trophies. 

776
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:41,960
Anyway, I've. 
Got. 

777
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,640
We've got 2 European trophies 
between us. 

778
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,400
We have well. 
Yeah, yeah, great one. 

779
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,040
No, I think, I think Stephen 
Robinson would definitely be an 

780
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,360
interesting appointment. 
It just depends on what 

781
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,080
candidates would be available 
because obviously we've 

782
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,880
appointed the new director of 
football and I'm not even. 

783
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,600
Oh yeah, that guy was going to 
be talking about him. 

784
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,440
Yeah, I'm not even going to try 
and pronounce his name. 

785
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,960
German Guy Ben or German? 
Maybe Swiss? 

786
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,760
He's not the guy with the wild 
Wikipedia. 

787
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:12,000
Yeah, he's been in a Singapore 
in prison for 101 days, accused 

788
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,560
of match fixing, which he 
wasn't. 

789
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:18,000
He kidnapped a Penguin, kept him
in his bathtub and didn't 

790
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,320
release him until he had to. 
Know that weeks of reeks of like

791
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,200
when we were sponsored by the 
cinch proper cinch moments. 

792
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,800
Yeah, the sporting director. 
But he's got a good record, to 

793
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,480
be fair. 
I mean, he's he's done well in 

794
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,080
Germany. 
He's he then went to Saint Louis

795
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,080
in the MLS when they were being 
founded. 

796
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,880
They won the league in their 
very first season. 

797
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,480
So yeah, we'll see. 
We'll see what happens. 

798
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,120
Obviously Derek Gray was a big 
part of that, yeah, Known him 

799
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,280
from being a Bundesliga 
commentator. 

800
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,960
So let's see what happens. 
Obviously we've, we've not 

801
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,440
really had a footballing person 
as, as director of football 

802
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,120
before. 
I think that's something that 

803
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,280
was clearly lacking. 
And yeah, let's see what? 

804
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,760
Let's see what we can do. 
Yeah, that's that'll be 

805
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,640
interesting to watch that story 
play over the course of the 

806
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,320
season. 
I think, I mean, we'll move on 

807
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,280
to a big moment that happened in
Europe, but I think there was a 

808
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,640
lot of good goals at the 
weekend. 

809
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,200
But if you've not seen Scott 
Mccomoney school against Inter 

810
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,480
Milan for Napoli, definitely go 
and take a look at. 

811
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,840
So that's Scott now got 2, three
goals into the games for 

812
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,800
Annapoli. 
Didn't you guys managed to catch

813
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,880
that goal at the weekend? 
I didn't watch the game but I've

814
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,240
seen the goal about 10 times. 
They might. 

815
00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:29,520
I've seen the goal with an 
absolute beauty. 

816
00:39:29,720 --> 00:39:33,760
Yeah, hard to avoid it. 
I mean it was a it was our ball 

817
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,040
over the top them and how many 
latches on the end of nothing. 

818
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,760
The defender kind of slows down 
thinking he's not going anywhere

819
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,320
with that and McDonald many them
the angle from behind McDonald 

820
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,760
many as he shoots towards the 
goal is just the best one. 

821
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:49,640
A lot cat is it perfectly. 
I mean is one of those is the 

822
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:54,040
strike of a strike that you see 
like Champions League level and 

823
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,440
you think I wish got on how to 
player that quality? 

824
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,040
It's just a proper like 
talismani like it just exactly. 

825
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,080
And I'm like for my son's like 
when I was a glory hunting 

826
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,320
child, I was a Man U fan. 
That was my English team, right?

827
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,000
And that's obviously still, I 
still live by that, which is why

828
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,600
I have years of torture ever 
since right. 

829
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:16,080
But same, I'm disappearing him 
disappearing from my United even

830
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,920
way before this, I was like, I 
cannot believe they've got rid 

831
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,400
of Scott McDonald because he was
against. 

832
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,120
Scapegoat. 
Like the times again, these runs

833
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,920
into the box and these big game 
goals like he was already doing 

834
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,480
that Man United. 
So I didn't understand what 

835
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,560
possessed don't get rid of him 
like it wasn't. 

836
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,760
Like, it wasn't like nap. 
Like, it wasn't, It wasn't. 

837
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,360
They just let him go. 
Yeah, it was a real feeling. 

838
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,240
They got rid of him. 
And like, yeah, like, I can't 

839
00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:42,920
remember what his name is. 
It's a guy that said. 

840
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,080
Mark Goldbridge. 
Yeah, yeah, Goldbridge. 

841
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,600
Anytime I see a Mark Goldbridge 
complimation come up on tech 

842
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,080
talk now I said more check 
because as usual as coming to 

843
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,080
anyone, that's him quoting 
stuff, but he's not got the DNA 

844
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,760
and he's that. 
The DNA. 

845
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,000
The DNA. 
And you know, I mean, I mean, 

846
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,080
it's just been I mean it's 
they've done it for Razzmos all 

847
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,760
as well. 
But the turn around me Tommy's 

848
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,920
hard and it's good to see him 
had in a better form this season

849
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,520
again because he didn't start 
the season were quite the same 

850
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,320
like case that he finished. 
He was playing white left or 

851
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,400
James. 
He has film White left, so 

852
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:18,760
that's a different change for a 
man. 

853
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,560
Yeah, and the Bron De Bruyne and
I think it's just Conte trying 

854
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,040
to figure out where. 
Well, the Bruins now got a 

855
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,480
massive injury, so he's out for 
the season. 

856
00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:30,040
Or is he out for the season? 
Yeah, he he's a risk of missing 

857
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,520
the World Cup, apparently. 
Wow. 

858
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,680
OK, so so maybe Metorman has 
gone back to where we would want

859
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,840
him to be. 
Yeah, Talisman again, I mean. 

860
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:39,280
That's a good thing as well 
because like, I mean, this year 

861
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,560
for Scotland, having been in 
like like on fire for us in the 

862
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:48,200
qualifiers for the Euro 24, he 
scored for us in Portugal and 

863
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,800
things like that in the 
Euthanasians League and against 

864
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,640
Poland he looked good. 
But he's not been at it as much 

865
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,040
this year. 
So it's good to see him hitting 

866
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,960
this little bit Vayner form 
again when I play. 

867
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,000
Getting back to the standards he
was heading last season. 

868
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,720
What do you think Scotland need 
to do to get, I mean, is it, how

869
00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:09,480
do we get the best at him again 
because arguably the whole team 

870
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,480
hasn't been at it recently? 
I think it's a lot to do with 

871
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,760
the players that you play around
them. 

872
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,320
I think I said to you when we 
were in the pop up in a pint, 

873
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:23,640
I'd start Bowie up front, not 
even mainly to do with him, but 

874
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,480
because he's such a nuisance 
that at times Belarus would have

875
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,360
to double team him. 
And then that leave space for 

876
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:34,360
Mcdowman arriving in the box. 
Because I think, yeah, yeah, 

877
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:35,040
exactly. 
I was. 

878
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,600
But so the reason that he's 
maybe not scoring as many as he 

879
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,400
was in in Euro qualifiers is 
because nobody really looked at 

880
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,840
that Scotland team and was like,
Oh yeah, he's the guy. 

881
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:46,960
He's the guy that's going to 
score. 

882
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:51,400
So he kind of was left a bit 
more space and he'd arrived in 

883
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,920
the box and suddenly pop up and 
score a goal. 

884
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,120
But because of his form and how 
well he's done at Napoli, that 

885
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,560
is the guy that now when will 
play grease away or Denmark at 

886
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,160
home, they'll look to to 
neutralize him to to make sure 

887
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,920
that you won't get that space. 
So I think having people around 

888
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,640
that can cause a nuisance that 
can maybe draw defenders out the

889
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,160
way to create that space for 
Mcdonaldy can can let him 

890
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,040
flourish in that team. 
And yeah, I think I think it's 

891
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,480
just a sign of of how well he's 
been doing that he's now getting

892
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,600
these fake stories in the sun 
saying that he's not happy with 

893
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,840
night in life in Italy. 
I mean, what a load of shite. 

894
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,280
Oh, did, did you not remember 
that thing when he was, like, 

895
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,080
smoking cigars and dancing with 
old women in Naples? 

896
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:42,520
Yeah. 
Like, there's no way a guy like 

897
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,920
that wants to leave. 
Like he's living his best life. 

898
00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:46,480
Looks like a. 
Fashion sense now. 

899
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,240
Like what's going? 
On the direct quote was saying 

900
00:43:49,720 --> 00:43:53,480
they cite the fact that in 
Naples he's revered and almost 

901
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,680
God like status and he find. 
Hard. 

902
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,760
That's too much for him. 
And I'm like, what? 

903
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,800
Yeah, I mean. 
He looks he buy a little bit, 

904
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,920
but at the same time just no. 
No, not a chance. 

905
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,480
Yeah, I think even his fashion 
sense got better. 

906
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,720
He just looks better. 
But no, he's he's been he's been

907
00:44:09,720 --> 00:44:14,800
linked this week to Tottenham. 
I think that'd be a awful move. 

908
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:20,400
But also Barcelona. 
I'm not sure, but I mean, that 

909
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,560
would be insane. 
What's the last Scott to play at

910
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:23,520
Barcelona? 
I don't know. 

911
00:44:23,720 --> 00:44:25,760
Would it be? 
Yeah, probably Gammel. 

912
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:27,600
Archie Hill? 
No. 

913
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,480
I'm not being I'm not being 
funny though, but like seem to 

914
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,080
consistently make controversial 
comments. 

915
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,240
But I think like going from 
Napoli, Tottenham is a big 

916
00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:38,000
downgrade like. 
Oh no, 100% it's not even close.

917
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,760
Like obviously Barcelona, 
Barcelona would be an upgrade, 

918
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,520
but then equally don't know if 
Barcelona is going to actually 

919
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,000
fulfill the obligations of the 
contract. 

920
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,400
So you may end up saying and 
then it gets wrapped up a month 

921
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:47,320
later. 
So that would be a bit of a 

922
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,520
nightmare as well. 
I think, I think if you have a 

923
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,640
couple of bad games that 
Barcelona as well, you're out 

924
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:52,800
the team and you're on the 
bench. 

925
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,680
Whereas for Napoli, even if he 
has a couple bad games, they 

926
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,600
know what he's capable of and 
he's such a fan favorite that 

927
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,160
he's allowed those bad games 
because they know the the good 

928
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,440
games will come. 
Tell you what though, I would 

929
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,000
meet it'd be some be some poster
for Real Madrid V Barsha and the

930
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,960
two 10s are Bellingham and 
Mcdormand and Scotland. 

931
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,840
Who finished the Balandor, eh? 
Who would? 

932
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,880
Who would you rather have? 
Bellingham or Mcdormand? 

933
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,160
That's the question. 
Well, I know what Balandor says.

934
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,840
Exactly. 
And then obviously Napoli, Bel 

935
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,760
Gilmore, Bel Belly, Gilmore 
started the last four games 

936
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:27,880
sort. 
Of Scottish Javi. 

937
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:34,000
Yeah, the Scottish Javi, of 
course, he is sort of getting 

938
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,240
all that fortune in Luboka's 
injury. 

939
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,720
We haven't been out but 4. 
Sons and the Bruin. 

940
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,680
And the Bruin too. 
So yeah, the Scottish boys are 

941
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,120
certainly helping hold up the 
Fort there as Napoli lead joint 

942
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,640
top of the league, 21 points. 
Roma up there with them. 

943
00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:51,280
Yeah, I mean, look at that 
midfield. 

944
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,680
There's Mcdowman and Gilmore and
I think example and Geese. 

945
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,160
I saw stat today that he's out 
of Annapolis. 

946
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,680
Eight wins. 
He's one man of the match and 

947
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,760
five of them he's been one of 
the best players in the league, 

948
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,640
if not the best. 
So yeah, 2 Scots and a 

949
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,200
Cameroonian. 
I think what a combo that is. 

950
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,560
I know long they may continue as
well. 

951
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,960
It's good to see them both in 
such good form with our big 

952
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,960
games against Denmark and Greece
coming up. 

953
00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:17,040
Probably. 
I was going to say next month, 

954
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,960
depending on what time this gets
published, but talking to the 

955
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:25,360
national team, we had two big 
three big games that occurred 

956
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,520
and the week just passed. 
Scotland women played on the 

957
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,280
African continent. 
They traveled to play Morocco 

958
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:37,480
where they won two, one against 
them in Casablanca, My Year and 

959
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,680
Cuff Bar AM. 
I right in saying that's the 

960
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,000
first Scottish team to ever play
in Africa as well. 

961
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,280
I think I saw a start that's the
first ever team to play in 

962
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,880
Africa, which if that's true, is
a crazy start that has taken 

963
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,240
that long. 
Yeah, I would say so. 

964
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,320
And we have played the African 
nations. 

965
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,600
I mean, it's played Nigeria, but
I was at Caven Cottage. 

966
00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:58,680
Yeah, yeah. 
It wasn't in Africa. 

967
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,520
So I think I saw a start. 
That was the first ever Scottish

968
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,400
team to travel to Africa to play
so. 

969
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,320
Yeah, and we won. 
So I two on one. 

970
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,040
It was our first one of 2025 of 
us. 

971
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,960
We've got the new manager and 
the women's team now after PED, 

972
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,920
Sure God is George, Melissa and 
Derita. 

973
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:23,680
Anderita, I think Andrea, yeah, 
Australian, she's come in 

974
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,960
obviously disastrous Nations 
League campaign with We also had

975
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,080
the playoff defeat against 
Finland over 2 legs. 

976
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,640
That was barely disappointing. 
Like the men's national team? 

977
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,320
We won our playoffs. 
We won our playoffs. 

978
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,760
What against Greece? 
Oh, sorry, I just. 

979
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,200
You know what? 
I totally erased that from my 

980
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:46,960
memory. 
I'm. 

981
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,320
Going back to Euro 20. 
Nice. 

982
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,120
Fairpoint yeah, yeah, got me 
there. 

983
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,160
But yeah, no, a good, good 
result for the girls even. 

984
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,920
It was just a family. 
I mean, we then played 

985
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,320
Switzerland after that on the IT
was Tuesday. 

986
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:02,800
You can't. 
You can't brush over the winner,

987
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,480
by the way. 
I mean, yeah. 

988
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,880
Carlene, we are. 
Just a fairly 5 yards. 

989
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,440
In the 90th minute, yeah, yeah, 
I mean best, best goal I've seen

990
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,680
all year. 
Maybe Kieran Bowie tops it just 

991
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,800
but yeah, for her 20th Scotland 
goal, I'd say about yeah 35 four

992
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,320
yards out in the last minute to 
win it. 

993
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,720
Obviously it is just a friendly 
you take it. 

994
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:28,520
But yeah, Goodwin and then yeah,
moving on to Switzerland game 

995
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:34,680
like you said, they building a 
valiant effort, but lost 4 three

996
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,920
came back to equalize it half 
just before half time. 

997
00:48:38,720 --> 00:48:43,000
Another good game, by the way, 
The first one, yeah, I wouldn't 

998
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,840
call a chap, but it was a lob, 
you know, Caroline Weir assisted

999
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,480
that one, got a goal for 
herself. 

1000
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,000
So she's been that's the captain
stepping up over the course of 

1001
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,000
the two games, isn't it? 
I. 

1002
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,240
Mean Balandor nominee, Yeah. 
Yeah, well, exactly. 

1003
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,120
Yeah, first first ever women's 
play to be nominated for the 

1004
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,080
Balandor Feminine Feminine. 
Still think that's mad as well 

1005
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,200
that she's the first one Like Oh
yeah on them all. 

1006
00:49:03,240 --> 00:49:05,080
That's crazy. 
Kim Little and stuff as. 

1007
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,520
Well, yeah, like that is wild 
because they've played for good 

1008
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:08,680
teams as well. 
It's not like, I think like 

1009
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,560
they've, they've only done well 
domestically. 

1010
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,480
They've they've shown it like a 
bigger stage as well. 

1011
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,480
So the fact that none of them 
have had that even a nomination 

1012
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,240
is crazy. 
Yeah, I think they've been 

1013
00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:19,800
overlooked. 
So it's good to see Caroline, we

1014
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,560
are getting getting the the 
nomination that does that she 

1015
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,800
deserved. 
I was going to say one game with

1016
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,280
that mess. 
Don't kind of let this one slip 

1017
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:29,960
by. 
Come on. 

1018
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:35,360
Yeah, Scotland under seventeens.
We're playing at the Excelsior 

1019
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:40,440
Stadium in Airdrie again through
the week and it was was it you 

1020
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,360
goodness, I've been taking the 
the the competition. 

1021
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,960
You're on the 17 qualifier. 17 
Qualifier. 

1022
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,840
The first game. 
First game England and it was a 

1023
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:55,120
one now win for the boys in blue
over the old enemy and it was a 

1024
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,040
yeah and plus 90th minute goal 
from Luke Douglas, youth product

1025
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,520
of Saint Maron so good on him. 
It was a ball to the back post. 

1026
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,960
He made no mistake putting it in
the net. 

1027
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,600
Quite the the cheer went up as 
we beat them one now and yeah, 

1028
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,600
that was was on YouTube. 
You can come catch the 

1029
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,800
highlights for that. 
Quite a fire game as well 

1030
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,600
because it was pretty much the 
last kick of the ball. 

1031
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,560
There was a little bit of back 
and forward. 

1032
00:50:17,720 --> 00:50:19,960
England boy ends up getting sent
off because he chucks the ball 

1033
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,920
and think it's in Douglas face 
against. 

1034
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,960
He's involved and all sorts 
there. 

1035
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,400
So the other game in the group 
was Switzerland, not 

1036
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,320
Switzerland, Sweden and 
Lithuania. 

1037
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,880
Sweden one in that one. 
So we're joined top of Sweden 

1038
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,200
now and then we play Sweden on 
the 31st. 

1039
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,280
But time you've listened to 
this. 

1040
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,960
And this will be going out about
10:00 AM on the 31st. 

1041
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,880
So if you're listening to it 
just after it's released, you 

1042
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,480
can go catch that game on 
YouTube. 

1043
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,680
It's at 3:30 UK time. 
If you're listening after, go 

1044
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,240
check out the results, see how 
we did. 

1045
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:58,680
Because yeah, hardest game in 
the group, maybe probably away 

1046
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,400
England, but hardest team in the
group at least out the way. 

1047
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,960
Three points, hopefully a a win 
against Sweden under seventeens 

1048
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,920
away and yeah, perfect. 
Left you now after that which 

1049
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,800
will be on the 3rd of November 
at 3:00. 

1050
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,080
So again, they're all on 
YouTube, so definitely go and 

1051
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,240
watch them. 
I mean I watched the England 

1052
00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:20,200
game and it wasn't just a case 
of Scotland grabbing a lucky 

1053
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,040
last minute goal. 
Some good football played. 

1054
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,840
They were quite brave on the 
ball killing Kadamade. 

1055
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,160
I think I've pronounced that 
right. 

1056
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,720
Is the young star like who's now
at Man City? 

1057
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:31,560
Yeah. 
Highly rated. 

1058
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,080
Someone England I know has been 
after as well. 

1059
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,160
He looked absolutely electric 
when he was running. 

1060
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,600
Yeah. 15 year old, I think, 
yeah, who was bought, who was 

1061
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,960
bought for over a million from 
from Man City, from Sheffield 

1062
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:49,600
Wednesday when he was in the 
under 19, under 18 squads the 

1063
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,120
previous camp. 
And he did really well. 

1064
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:55,200
So I was actually a bit shocked 
to see his name missing for that

1065
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,480
squad, but I think that's 
because the under 19 squad just 

1066
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,600
had some friendlies. 
I think maybe I'm wrong and 

1067
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:01,640
says. 
It just needed. 

1068
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,640
Does it just need the ones men's
court to be like official hours?

1069
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,120
Yeah. 
No, it's. 

1070
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,600
You can get caps for a team now,
a national side and is if you're

1071
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,080
not a certain age you still have
the choice to swap. 

1072
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,000
It's also to do with if it's a 
friendly or not. 

1073
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,120
So I think it's 5 friendlies or 
three friendlies. 

1074
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,680
But you can still play one 
competitive game and still 

1075
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:23,880
change the. 
Yeah, because, because. 

1076
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,240
That's that's that's a strange 
rules and all makes play one 

1077
00:52:27,240 --> 00:52:28,720
competitive game and then you 
can move. 

1078
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,880
Yeah, so I think Zaha did it. 
He played one for England and 

1079
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,440
then he switched the Ivory 
Coast. 

1080
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,360
So yeah, hopefully we can get 
him some caps at 16 or 

1081
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:38,480
something. 
I don't care. 

1082
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,240
Yeah, I'm in the November 
qualifiers. 

1083
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,080
Yeah, get a few. 
Get a few friendlies against San

1084
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,320
Marino and cap them in both. 
I come on. 

1085
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,360
Yeah, just looking ahead to the 
games in November next month, 

1086
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,400
there is a few actually injury 
risks. 

1087
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,280
One came out today that Angus 
Gunn, according to Sean Dice has

1088
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,520
opened up his lead as his knee 
ligaments. 

1089
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:05,280
So he's a risk for the the games
in November now apparently. 

1090
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:06,360
So that's. 
Not what? 

1091
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:07,680
You want? 
It's really not. 

1092
00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:11,080
Rising up, Rising up like the 
Undertaker, Craig Gordon 

1093
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,320
returns. 
Oh, don't get me. 

1094
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,640
Yeah, I mean, who would you put 
in as your replacement? 

1095
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,240
First of all, Hey, Gordon. 
Yeah, I think I'd do the same. 

1096
00:53:19,240 --> 00:53:22,320
But secondly, Aaron Hickey still
not back in first team training 

1097
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,080
with Brentford. 
He's scheduled back next week, 

1098
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,120
but that's not confirmed yet. 
Max Johnson out with a hamstring

1099
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:29,880
injury. 
He was injured last game for 

1100
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,800
Darby. 
And Nathan Patterson is all out.

1101
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:34,400
So who would you start right 
back? 

1102
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,160
Is Ralston really the best we 
have? 

1103
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,200
No. 
Who would you put then? 

1104
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,880
Alvin Ramsey. 
That's an e-mail. 

1105
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,360
I agree. 
I agree. 

1106
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,920
So I mean. 
It won't 100% beat Ralston, by 

1107
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,200
the way. 
Calvin Ramsey. 

1108
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,040
Calvin Ramsey definitely over 
Ralston. 

1109
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,360
Ram. 
Ram Ralston's getting kept at 

1110
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:59,120
the team by Young. 
Oh goodness, his name escapes. 

1111
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:00,760
And what's who's the late back 
at Celtic? 

1112
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,480
Well, don't. 
Sorry, Donovan. 

1113
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,000
Yeah. 
But you know what? 

1114
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,000
Martin O'Neill came back. 
I knew Ralston's going. 

1115
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,800
To play, yeah, he started, He 
started. 

1116
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,800
Forest, who's going to play? 
And if Forest is going to play 

1117
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,880
as well. 
And news Get before us then. 

1118
00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:17,560
Ralston will be shooting for 
that one. 

1119
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,880
Yeah, we've not even talked 
about Calvin, Calvin Ramsay 

1120
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:24,200
actually. 
So first start in 1085 days. 

1121
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:28,480
His first start came against 
Derby County in 2022. 

1122
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,840
Obviously he's had his battles 
with injuries, went on loans 

1123
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,200
that really didn't sits 
playstyle. 

1124
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:38,400
At Wigan, at Preston, at Bolton.
Yeah Kelly. 

1125
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,760
There was 2 ex Aberdeen players,
2EX Kelly players on the pitch 

1126
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,560
against Crystal Palace. 
Freddie Woodman and Calvin 

1127
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,480
Ramsey both played for Aberdeen 
and Kilmarnock so that's quite 

1128
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,080
something. 
But yeah, good to see him back 

1129
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,880
in the squad. 
Apparently was the best he. 

1130
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,880
Said he went I think often had a
very, very decent performance 

1131
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,600
Cam on the ball, he said 
speaking about him, he actually 

1132
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,400
spooked him after the game, 
allegedly along with another guy

1133
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,000
that made his debut, I think 
Kieran Morrison. 

1134
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,200
And he said after Athena loss, 
you might feel very, very 

1135
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,400
disappointed, but you took been 
quite happy with the way you've 

1136
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,440
played your first time here at 
Anfield. 

1137
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,640
I mean, that sounds promising. 
Yeah, I mean, Jeremy Frempong, 

1138
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,800
they're starting right back, is 
injured. 

1139
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,480
So it's either him, Dominic 
Shabazzla, who's played right 

1140
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,280
back sometimes, or Connor 
Bradley. 

1141
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,280
And I don't think Slot really 
fancies Connor Bradley. 

1142
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,640
So a lot of fans are calling for
Kelvin Ramsey actually to start 

1143
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,640
the next game. 
I can't actually quite remember 

1144
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,720
who it's against, but yeah, it'd
be really good to see him 

1145
00:55:37,720 --> 00:55:40,120
actually get a run of games 
because I think he's he's still 

1146
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,720
in the 22. 
I mean, people forget how young.

1147
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,960
Yeah, yeah. 
I mean how people forget how 

1148
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,440
young he was when he broke into 
that Aberdeen team, winning 

1149
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,600
young player of the year for 
Aberdeen and everything so. 

1150
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,560
Their next game's their next 
game's Villa at home, and then 

1151
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,080
it's Real Madrid at home and 
then Man City, Oh. 

1152
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,320
Could you imagine Calvin Ramsey 
against Real Madrid? 

1153
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,640
That's. 
Calvin Ramsay will have Benny 

1154
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,440
Junior in his back. 
I'm telling you, that's a make a

1155
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,480
great game. 
I mean, imagine he has two good 

1156
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,960
performances in a row, then he's
then he's locked in for 

1157
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,280
starting. 
The thing is we that's I mean 

1158
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:14,040
there's he's a talented kid, 
like he's a talented kid and I 

1159
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,600
think it's one of them where if 
the stars align and he gets semi

1160
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,720
better running form and like 
you've said, like it doesn't he 

1161
00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:22,360
fancy Bradley or doesn't seem to
fancy Bradley. 

1162
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,760
I mean, to be fair, like he's 
quite aggressive or slot. 

1163
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,880
So I think like suppose like 
right back, I could see that 

1164
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,320
happening, but but you see if he
gives some of that real 

1165
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,800
opportunity, even if he gets 
some some minutes in any of 

1166
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,760
those games might be enough like
if he does like his style and 

1167
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,240
how he plays because he's Got 
Talent. 

1168
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,400
Yeah, because you. 
Never know when he goes from 

1169
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,040
there, right? 
Yeah, I mean, I saw the 

1170
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,200
completion of what he did 
against Chris Parse and he 

1171
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:46,800
really did look really calm. 
Obviously would be nervous 

1172
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,800
playing first game in three 
years competitively, but it 

1173
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,520
really looked like a calm 
presence. 

1174
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,200
How many games did he get for 
Aberdeen? 

1175
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,520
First season he didn't get many 
I've got. 

1176
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,320
The Wikipedia says 28 here, but 
and then I don't know how I 

1177
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,960
care. 
That no, that's not He played 39

1178
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:06,320
games for us. 
I think some. 

1179
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,520
How do you feel done when it was
at Aberdeen fan? 

1180
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,960
Well, I mean, first season he 
was kind of a bench player 

1181
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,000
really. 
Got a few good games, a few in 

1182
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,200
the Scottish Cup of thing and 
then the season after that 

1183
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,240
obviously was absolutely 
incredible. 

1184
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,560
Think he was That was that calm 
head then as well. 

1185
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,960
Yeah, he was really calm. 
There was obviously a level of 

1186
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,960
inexperience, maybe is the right
words. 

1187
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,840
Obviously first proper season in
professional football was when 

1188
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,360
he broke out. 
But even then you could see he 

1189
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:41,200
was just in a class above the 
Scottish Premiership for that, 

1190
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,040
for that time. 
Obviously he's he's had his 

1191
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,360
injury problems since then. 
But yeah, he one young player of

1192
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:47,480
the year I think. 
I don't know if that was for 

1193
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,000
Aberdeen or for the whole league
in general. 

1194
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,440
I think it was for the whole 
league. 

1195
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:54,960
Whole league, yeah, yeah, I've 
got up here 24 games, one goal, 

1196
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,040
4 assists. 
But it was more than just the 

1197
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,600
goal and assists. 
That was how he really got his 

1198
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:03,440
head up and drew forward. 
Not kind of 1 dimensional 

1199
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,760
player. 
It's whatever there was. 

1200
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:10,320
He'd exploit that space and I 
think he can do that at 

1201
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:11,760
Liverpool if he's given a shot. 
I. 

1202
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,280
Mean there's certainly an 
opportunity there in that right 

1203
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:15,960
back position. 
I mean, we've obviously talked 

1204
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,000
about Ralston Hecky for me, 
obviously Hecky would be the 

1205
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,560
would be the number one, but 
there's no reason why Calvin 

1206
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:22,920
Ramsey couldn't get himself to 
that point. 

1207
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:27,720
If he has the same sort of his 
breaks that that heck he had 

1208
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,720
through his career. 
He can make never really get 

1209
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:30,760
there. 
And then Max Johnston. 

1210
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,920
So it's a position where people 
are vying for it, but people 

1211
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:35,640
keep getting injured in that 
position as well. 

1212
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,720
So just got a bit of a run and 
like you say, he gets to gets to

1213
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,360
play in a team where Liverpool 
would be great for him if he can

1214
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,640
play either there or on loan 
somewhere where it suits some. 

1215
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,120
I never know. 
I suppose they wouldn't be a 

1216
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:48,680
posted the times that that 
scene. 

1217
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,240
Aberdeen was very briefly. 
It looked quite raw, but you'd 

1218
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,400
expect them to be. 
But the talent was really good 

1219
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,160
and I still looked quite he 
still looked quite composed and 

1220
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,480
comfortable all the time in the 
ball, which again, reminds me of

1221
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,200
hacky and not. 
They're not, Obviously, that's 

1222
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,360
the exact same to player, which 
mean like in terms of how they 

1223
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:07,280
carry themselves. 
And so, yeah, yeah, watch this 

1224
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:08,760
space, I suppose, with Calvin 
Ramsey. 

1225
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,200
I mean I'd I'd prefer Tyranny 
playing it right back then. 

1226
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,000
Ralston. 
That's how lowly I rate Ralston 

1227
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:16,640
I think. 
In a Scotland, surely? 

1228
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,200
Better. 
You'll generally better when he 

1229
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,880
came on against. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1230
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,760
I mean, yeah, I think Ralston 
for Scotland's been woeful even 

1231
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,280
at the EUR. 
I think people say he was 

1232
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,400
scapegoated, but I think he just
he just had some pure 

1233
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,960
performances. 
Yeah, it'll be interesting to 

1234
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,000
see kind of who can get 
themselves back fit because 

1235
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,440
we've got a lot of injury prone 
fullbacks tyranny. 

1236
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,520
Nathan Patterson was obviously 
supposed to be the next big 

1237
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,280
thing. 
He says he's had his issues with

1238
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:45,400
injuries as well. 
Calvin Ramsay, Max Johnson, 

1239
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,480
seems like he's had a few 
injuries now. 

1240
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,880
So yeah, it's the starting spot.
Will go go to whoever can 

1241
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:56,720
actually keep themselves fit. 
I just hopefully, hopefully hope

1242
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,640
that's a strong squad that we 
announced that will be coming 

1243
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:02,280
out. 
Next Tuesday it should be given 

1244
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,280
up with two weeks to the game. 
They've not actually released 

1245
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,720
any of the tickets information 
yet for the games and for the 

1246
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:09,320
game in Athens even for this got
on the way. 

1247
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,160
And so that's the game I'm 
hoping to get them getting quite

1248
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,120
twitchy about that one thing if 
you. 

1249
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,040
Go. 
You could go back to Athens film

1250
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,640
for a bit of redemption. 
I was honestly thinking about 

1251
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:22,360
because me and James were 
talking about going as well, 

1252
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,000
because you're already in 
Budapest. 

1253
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:25,440
Is that right, James? 
I'm on. 

1254
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,600
I'm going there with my 
girlfriends as a tactical break 

1255
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:32,400
because I think flights are, 
believe it or not, often is 

1256
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,600
actually quite a hard place to 
get to in terms of flights. 

1257
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,160
There's not. 
Many it's really bad. 

1258
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:40,880
Yeah, the prices just show up. 
So I'm taking a week to a 

1259
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,120
romantic break in Budapest and. 
Then. 

1260
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,200
On the Friday I'm getting a 20 
LB flight on top. 

1261
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,640
Yeah, I mean, if I can find the 
cheap flight, if I can find the 

1262
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,440
cheap flight and it drops to my 
points, then I'll I'll be out 

1263
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,720
there. 
But I will not be doing any of 

1264
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,120
the the hikes up to the Cropolis
again. 

1265
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:02,600
I mean, I might do it for good 
luck. 

1266
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,240
It served me well when I was out
in March. 

1267
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:08,120
So anyway, that's like I said, I
Scotland, big Scotland games 

1268
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,600
coming up next month. 
We'll be talking a lot about 

1269
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:14,200
that in the coming weeks. 
I've been speaking to the guests

1270
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:18,640
we had on for our two opposition
analysis episodes with Denmark 

1271
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,960
with talk and Stephen who came 
on to talk to us about Greece. 

1272
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:23,920
Going to get them back on 
hopefully. 

1273
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,520
Should be really good. 
So look out for those podcasts 

1274
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,680
coming up soon. 
One more thing before we leave 

1275
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,920
you again, I'll just ask. 
Please drop us a rating. 

1276
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,080
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1277
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,560
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1278
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,560
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1279
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:45,040
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1280
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,800
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So fun. 

1281
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:49,960
Thanks for coming on. 
Been great chatting to you. 

1282
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:54,400
Cheers mate, good to be back on.
And Adam as well, hopefully next

1283
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:55,840
time we speak to you just as 
happy. 

1284
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:00,800
Always made, always happy to 
regardless, regardless of the 

1285
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,480
hot stuff always happened to the
pod. 

1286
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,640
Nice one. 
Well, thanks very much and we'll

1287
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,160
catch you in the next one. 
Take care guys.