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Wow, wow, wow. 
Ladies and gentlemen, good 

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morning. 
Welcome to the BB cast, episode 

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number 12. 
Today we have a very, very 

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special guest, dude, the snake 
himself, Mr. Solo Mission. 

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Thank you for joining us, man. 
How we, how we feeling? 

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I'm good. 
There's busy times obviously 

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with All Stars, but it's good. 
It's nice and sunny in the Uki 

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was just sitting in the garden 
for an hour getting ready for 

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the podcast, just chilling out, 
you know I want. 

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To get you. 
Yeah, you're so busy. 

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You're sitting in the pond in 
the garden for an hour. 

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Thank you for. 
Taking I was still think 

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thinking about, you know, 
concepts, so that's good idiot 

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working working. 
No, we do. 

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We do appreciate you taking the 
time. 

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Obviously you're a very, very 
busy man right now because we 

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are coming up on the Crest of 
Jag XS. 

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First ever US event, right? 
First ever US event. 

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Yeah, I I think so. 
I mean, they've done a stage. 

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They have a stage. 
It's one of the twitch cons like

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ages ago, I think like 2017 or 
something like that. 

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But it wasn't like a big thing. 
I think it was like a small, you

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know, like maybe because I 
remember I think it was like 

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NASAR and maybe Torvesto. 
It was one of the dead man's 

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when that when the dead man's 
were like a cluster fuck free 

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for all 2000 people getting DDoS
modjed type situation. 

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It was just one of those, but 
not, not like not, not something

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that they've put on 
individually. 

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And yeah, so it is. 
It is pretty unprecedented. 

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Yeah, we'll call it the first 
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I think that's fair. 
I mean, I got to ask, dude, 

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what's how are you feeling? 
Are you nervous? 

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Are you excited? 
Because this is a whole 

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production and it's got your 
name on it. 

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This is your don't don't say 
like this. 

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It is, dude. 
This is this is solo mission. 

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That's 2. 
Dollars a ticket so if it goes 

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bothers all on you solo mission.
It's weird solo mission. 

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It's way easier to get mad at 
you and leave a comment on your 

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Twitter than Jag X. 
You're going to read some. 

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Jag X isn't going to. 
Know give you a bunch of Jags 

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like this is a solo mission 
event. 

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I don't know what you guys are 
talking about. 

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Turn on you that. 
'D be so good. 

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Suddenly you don't want to be 
the heel anymore, man. 

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Suddenly now it's bad to be the 
villain. 

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Oh yeah, I mean, like it 
increases the stakes, but it's 

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it also like increases the 
excitement, right? 

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Because like I go into a rune 
fest is super cool seeing 

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everybody and like knowing that 
everyone's there for All Stars 

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is just like another level of 
like, I don't know, I'm so I'm 

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so excited to see everybody and 
see how it goes down. 

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But it's definitely stressful, 
it's nervous. 

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There are way more things to 
think about with the stage, with

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land, with like even getting 
people to the US and all that 

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sort of stuff. 
Like don't get me wrong, Jag X 

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is basically responsible for 
most of the in person aspects of

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this thing. 
But like, I'm still like a go 

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between between the creators 
somewhat. 

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And like, you know, they asked 
me for my opinion and stuff. 

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Like you said, if it goes wrong,
I would feel bad. 

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So yeah, hopefully it's fine. 
How big is their events team 

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that they have putting this 
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Would you say it's you and how 
many other people like what's 

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this operation look like on the 
back end? 

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So I'm mostly in charge of 
anything to do with gameplay. 

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So I'll, I basically I designed 
the whole thing. 

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I'm the go between with the 
devs. 

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I basically tell the devs what I
want from them. 

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I recruit all the creators, any 
stuff that we need for like the 

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gameplay size, like referees, 
all that sort of stuff. 

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And then like in terms of the in
person event, like I've been in 

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talks with them since before 
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So like they were already 
looking, I think pretty much as 

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soon as modern N came in and I 
asked him at the RS25 thing, I 

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was like, it was pretty cool 
coinstall timing. 

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Like we behind All Stars of the 
US And he was like, yeah, well, 

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I was like, yes, bro, respect. 
So, so like, like, yeah, before 

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season 2, they were already 
speaking about like, oh, like, 

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what do you think about doing 
something in person? 

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And I was like, yeah, that 
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And then see, Season 2 happened 
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like it could have been better. 
And then they were still like, 

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yeah, man. 
Like we're still looking at US 

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venues. 
Like Sweden is very heavily 

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involved. 
IESA. 

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There's someone called Mod 
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She does all like the IRL event 
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Chicago one and then they, they 
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with like the actual on stage 
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So like I think these guys have 
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like it's some shooting game. 
Like I know nothing about games,

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but they've they've done like 
they're the experts in that, 

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like Jaggi's on experts and like
putting on a loud event. 

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Are they? 
So like I think they've they've 

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got they've got some other guys 
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So, so yeah, it's a lot going 
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the the dev stuff is. 
We actually we had a user on and

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he used to it was a user right? 
Am I? 

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Am I remembering correctly? 
Last week, yeah. 

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OK, cool. 
He's insulting. 

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Ayuza works for a, a company 
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called it white labeling events.
So like he, he worked for a 

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company that put on events for 
CS GO. 

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Like you'd have a, a rocket 
League. 

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You'd have no idea that his 
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them. 
It was like CS GO branded, 

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Rocket League branded and. 
Yeah, there's like production 

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companies and stuff. 
I'm I'm the whole, the whole 

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elephant in the room is it's in 
the US like they're on the 

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ground. 
Like they have all the contacts 

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in the US. 
Like it's stupid to fly like 

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stuff from the UK there, isn't 
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So like. 
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That makes a lot more sense, 
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That makes that makes total 
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You OK? 
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something. 
You said Jag X brought this idea

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to you. 
You didn't ask Jag X to have an 

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in person event. 
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always something I've thought of
like, oh, could you do some sort

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of in person finale? 
But like I'm never going to be 

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the one to fund that, you know, 
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Like like that they're 
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loss on the event, like a lot a 
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putting up putting on a one time
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company's not based in. 
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So so yeah, like I would I would
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I've done like the rough sort of
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could you just do it on a 
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But Even so, it's like, I don't 
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cost so much to to do it myself.
But yeah, it wasn't my idea to 

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do it. 
It was from them. 

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But like, hey, you're never 
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I like my whole vision just 
coming to life and like an in 

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person arena could be crazy. 
That's got to I. 

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I understand it probably would 
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X and ask for $1,000,000. 
I can see, I can see I can do 

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it, bro. 
I don't have enough good points 

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without just yet, but yeah dude.
Yeah, well, that's, dude, that's

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so sick. 
It's got to be, it's got to be 

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so cool to see that vision just 
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the process from the start to 
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Are we going to see another one?
We get another one of these 

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events. 
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Think I don't want straight 
after yeah, I mean what in terms

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of AUS event or another demo All
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Talked about, Yeah. 
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the question a little bit. 
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Runescape events. 
Runefest is huge. 

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This is going to be awesome. 
Would you be willing to put in 

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the work to do this again for 
Season 4? 

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Yeah, I, I would be, yeah. 
Like it, it takes up a lot of my

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time to add my All Stars. 
But at the end of the day, I've 

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sort of in my professional life,
if you want to call it that, 

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I've sort of shifted a lot 
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Like I, I spend a lot more time 
writing up Discord messages and 

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emails and being in calls and 
all that sort of stuff instead 

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of playing the game and making 
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And I've actually quite been, 
I've been enjoying that, to be 

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honest, as part of the reason I 
stopped, stepped back from 

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playing as well is it just gives
me a different challenge of 

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doing something different 
compared to the same old, you 

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know, same old solo mission 
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So I've actually been really 
enjoying it. 

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And yeah, I mean, if they if 
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want to do another one for 
Season 4 and instantly shake the

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hand. 
But I think we'll see how it 

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goes. 
Like they're making a big loss 

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on the Chicago event, even 
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out. 
So yeah, we'll see. 

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Like again, I wouldn't want to 
ask. 

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Yeah, I was. 
I was going to say that this 

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this is now kind of like your 
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this in leagues. 
You obviously go insanely hard 

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during during leagues, but this 
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This is this is what you're 
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What was the transition like 
going from a YouTube to an event

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coordinator? 
Yeah, I mean, I I've always 

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loved the events like the 
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I've probably been in more 
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And I just wanted more good 
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So I was like, oh, why not? 
Just and because I do really 

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want a dead man, right. 
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leagues, that sort of thing, 
like bang out like 10 videos in 

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10 days, you know, you know, the
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And I was like, how how can I 
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And I was like, why don't I just
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I'm like, I just like I was just
went from there with that and 

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and yeah, I mean, I'd say in 
season for season 1 and season 

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2, it wasn't taking up as much 
time, but with season 3 it 

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definitely has been so many more
hours with the with the in 

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person thing. 
Everything has to be brought 

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forward planning wise. 
Like I had to do do the cast in 

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November because you know, like,
can all these people make it to 

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the US? 
They were they wanted to shout 

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out in the winter summit. 
So like the time I got brought 

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forward massively, like I have 
like fortnightly calls with 

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Jake. 
It's about stuff and that 

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there's always something to 
like, you know, to work, to work

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on continuously. 
I, I want this one to be really 

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good, especially because there's
a like, there's an IRL finale at

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the end. 
Like, I just wanted to make sure

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that everything's water tight 
and it's actually going to go 

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well this time. 
Yeah, no, I can. 

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I can understand that one. 
I feel like when you started the

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the The Dead Man Series, did you
do it because you wanted to be a

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participant or were you a bigger
fan of just the tournament as a 

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whole? 
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step back and we can get into 
that if you want, if you have. 

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To get into that, I mean, So 
what originally, yeah, I would 

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say that I was creating it so 
that so that I could play. 

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I mean, I think I called it in 
my first first video about it. 

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I said I pitched Drag X, my 
dream game mode and they said 

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yes. 
And that that is pretty. 

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That is basically what went 
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Like, I wanted to play in this 
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I my favorite times in Runescape
were playing Dead Man's as part 

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of a clan, which a lot of people
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But it was back in the days 
where you had one world. 

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It was back in the whole that, 
you know, the mod, yeah, like 

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the finale got didos, all the 
drama, whatever. 

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But like, but one week it's 2000
players on one world. 

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So things are contested, there's
things getting locked down and 

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everyone in the team has a role.
And I'm like, how can you 

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replicate that? 
And just make some, make some 

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tweaks and get it. 
So like, you know, it's a lot 

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better for a mass audience. 
Like there's no swapping, 

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there's no cheating. 
There's all, all that sort of 

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stuff gets removed. 
And yeah, I was like, in my 

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mind, that would be so amazing 
to play. 

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And yeah, it, it, it was more 
because I wanted to play it 

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originally. 
But like, as I've gone through, 

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I don't, I'm not really that 
bothered about playing for the 

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third one, the first. 
I'm not sad that I'm not 

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playing. 
The first one was 2000 people in

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one world. 
No, no, not All Stars. 

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So so yeah, the that the dead 
man's back in the day what they.

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No, no, I just mean, I mean the 
normal ones. 

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Yeah, yeah, the normal ones, 
yeah. 

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One world. 
What was? 

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No. 
So what they did was they had a 

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seasonal and then that was the 
qualifier for the what they 

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called the tournament. 
It's actually insane looking 

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back, by the way. 
So they'd have the seasonal and 

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then the season will close, the 
top 2000 people by total level 

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would move to the tournament. 
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there'd be a one week long 
tournament on one world. 

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Like it's and that's like that's
only 2000 people can log into 

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that one world. 
So like it's insane. 

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Like the warriors Guild, like 
it's so packed, like 

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everything's super competitive. 
People are fighting over giant 

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mole quest locations, all that 
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And then that that that those 
were the big finales every three

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months, which sort of ended in 
2019. 

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But what's even crazier is so 
they had that tournament and 

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then like as soon as the 
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seasonal started. 
And so it was like, I think it 

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was a great sort of great thing 
for for people to watch the 

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tournament. 
And then they're like, oh, damn,

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I want to play. 
And it's like the greatest like 

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call to action at the end of the
the finale for the tournament. 

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They're like the world's open 
right now. 

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You can jump to the dead man. 
That that that was the whole 

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thing that was going on from 
like 2016 to 2019. 

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Yeah. 
So that like there were some 

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crazy times and, and from a 
content perspective, like the 

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tournament was well, the content
was that it was the seasonal was

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like, I think it was just like 
for fun really. 

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And that's for like the the 
everyday person. 

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But I think the tournament is 
what brought the best, best 

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content. 
And that's the thing that I used

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to enjoy the most and what I 
wanted to recapture because I 

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played in the clan Blazers that 
won money. 

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And you know, like all the 
drabas, all the personalities 

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involved in that. 
Like I think old schools a lot 

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smaller back then. 
So a lot of people don't 

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remember those days. 
But like, I think those those 

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are some of my fondest memories.
Like the competitive side of all

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those dramas. 
Behemoth would be going crazy at

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those. 
Times we would have been eating,

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dude, we would have been eating.
Yeah, why? 

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I did want to ask, so this is 
your third season. 

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The first two you did play. 
In this one, you're deciding to 

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step back. 
What did you learn from your 

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first two seasons? 
Did that contribute to you 

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stepping back or stepping back? 
The season is more of a 

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logistical thing. 
I'd say so. 

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The the first two seasons I had 
to play essentially in in my 

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mind to make it like like my, 
the whole like like Jag X didn't

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pay me some massive bag for like
season 1, for example. 

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It's like, because it's like 
it's an unproven thing. 

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It's like I was making my money 
because I was playing and then 

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like put a sponsor out every 
single day and it's like that. 

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That's crazy good money for me, 
right? 

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It's like the whole thing was 
designed with me playing in 

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mind. 
Essentially. 

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It's how I set it up. 
And then season 2 like not, not 

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so much. 
Like, obviously things didn't go

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well in Season 2. 
Couple of Rd. bumps. 

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But not so, so, so this this 
year, I'm not, I'm not stepping 

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back because I felt like it went
badly last time. 

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I think I've played twice. 
Like, don't get me wrong, wrong,

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it was really fun. 
But I always hear from everyone 

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at home like, oh, it's so good 
to watch, man. 

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It's so, so enjoyable. 
Like seeing all the POV's. 

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Some of my favorite 
conversations are at the end of 

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the week when I talk to one, one
or two of the referees and 

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they're saying, like, you 
wouldn't believe how many near 

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misses there are where someone 
like people are on APK trip and 

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they don't check the one room in
the Slayer cave for whatever 

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reason. 
And that's the room with the 

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guy. 
And like, you think there's 

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going to be drama about to go 
down and nothing happens. 

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And so I, I do, I do, I do want 
to experience a season as a 

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viewer. 
And there is the element of it's

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going to be a lot easier to be 
to not to not compete, right? 

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Because there's, there's, 
there's valid points to be made 

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about I am designing the rules. 
I am, you know, I am making 

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decisions that realistically do 
give me some sort of advantage. 

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Like I, I wouldn't say maybe 
it's, I wouldn't say it's a 

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crazy advantage because I do 
talk to a lot of the other 

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competitors beforehand about the
rules and go through, go through

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that with them. 
And like, so for example, in 

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season 2 and season 3, I spoke 
to maybe six or seven of them 

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about like what I was intending 
to do to get feedback about it. 

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And change it based on the 
feedback. 

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But at the end of the day, I'm 
the one that's coming up with 

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the ideas to get feedback on. 
So like I there is a bit of an 

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advantage there. 
So it's it's it's not great from

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a competition stance and I don't
think I need to play in season 3

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anymore. 
I think because I can do a 

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spectator stream it, it's viable
for me to not play at this 

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point, which I think is perfect.
And then the the other thing of 

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not playing is it means I could 
do some more cool stuff. 

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So like the the missions are, 
are my favorite feature in 

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season 3. 
I think they're going to be so 

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good. 
I think I think they're going to

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be better content than the 
breaches will be. 

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And that that can't be a thing. 
If I was playing, I mean, 

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someone else could design them, 
but like that's, that's nobody's

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job. 
Like that's my job. 

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My job is to design all the 
content in All Stars. 

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So because I'm not playing, it 
means that we can have these 

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surprise missions and, and all 
all these extra things, which, 

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you know, if I was playing, it 
would feel a bit, you know, I 

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couldn't do it right because I 
couldn't know what they were 

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going to be. 
So yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm not, I 

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think some people think I'm 
disappointed that I'm not 

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playing, but not at all. 
I I don't want to play. 

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I I definitely do not want to 
play this season. 

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I mean, maybe I'm just going to 
stop saying that there. 

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But like, I genuinely, I'm, I'm 
so looking forward to the 

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spectator stream. 
It's going to be me and pure 

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spam. 
Pure spam is actually coming 

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into my house. 
He's going to stay in an Airbnb 

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like 5 minutes down the road and
we're both going to be sat here 

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side by side doing the 
commentary on the spectator 

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tools and they've been upgraded 
as well. 

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So I'm so looking forward to our
role this this season and it's 

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going to be great. 
The servers are live for what, 

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18 hours a day? 
There's a six hour downtime. 

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Yes, so the, the Serb is live 
this year from 11 A 11 AM UK 

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time to 5:00 AM UK time. 
And then there's a there's a 

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down time to get everyone 
slapped. 

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It means more people will be on 
the world at once and you can 

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sync up with your team a bit 
more. 

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But yeah, we're we're going to 
try and be live for most of it. 

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But I don't I don't know. 
It's, it's a lot. 

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I think commentating on things 
is a lot more draining than just

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streaming is. 
I don't know, I'm obviously not 

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a streamer, right? 
But when, if, if you're 

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streaming long hours, especially
in like a team setting, like you

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can be yapping to your team and 
stuff, but there's always going 

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to be something for us to talk 
about because we can cut through

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30 different people. 
So we're going to, we're going 

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to be rolling in, rolling off 
and yeah, trying to trying to 

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hit a lot of hours. 
We'll be on for every single 

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breach and every single mission 
at the very least. 

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Yeah, it's going to be good. 
Who Who do you think is going to

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sleep the most and who do you 
think is going to sleep the 

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least? 
Sleep the most. 

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I mean, to be fair that there 
is, there is still a playtime 

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cap this year. 
So playtime cap is effectively 

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14 hours a day, which like, Oh 
yeah. 

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So it's 120 hours, which works 
out to be 14 hours a day. 

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And there's there's technically 
what there is 18 playable hours 

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per day, but you can you can get
really sweaty if you want to. 

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And, you know, I think that was 
a team. 

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And so in season 1, for example,
like Mazar was like locking out 

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in between God was dungeon kills
to like, you know, extend his 

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sort of like play, you know, you
know that thing where you do log

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out. 
Terrible. 

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Play time disgusting guy. 
But like but like even last time

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I think everyone was a bit more 
cog because like in season 1 I 

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had people begging me to play 
more and the play time cap was 

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17 hours a day. 
Like what the fuck? 

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Like people, people go crazy 
hard. 

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But yeah. 
And the second people are better

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about logging out, like, you 
know, that you can't log out to 

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go and eat your dinner. 
You don't have to sit there and 

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eat your dinner like, and play 
as well. 

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And so, yeah, that that there's 
a balance. 

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I think The thing is with the 
playtime cap, I have people 

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begging me to make it longer and
shorter from both sides. 

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So I think it's about, it's 
about. 

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Right. 
What was it last season? 

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120 hours is the is the same 
thing again? 

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Oh, it's the. 
Same as last season, OK. 

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It's the, it's the same, it's 
the same again. 

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But I think it might be more 
difficult to hit it this season 

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because you have six hours of 
the day where you can't play 

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because there's like overnight 
shutdown. 

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So I think it that will make it 
a bit more difficult because 

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sometimes you, you, you're just 
going to end up being awake in 

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those shutdown hours for some 
for whatever reason, maybe you 

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can't sleep or I don't know, 
like you can't front load the 

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hours at the start of the week 
either. 

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So yeah. 
OK, when we go back to last 

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season, you guys were definitely
the villains, obviously, right? 

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Like everybody hated you. 
For not like. 

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Not just the obvious reasons, 
sorry that came across. 

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Really blunt. 
So everybody hated that last 

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year. 
But like, OK, not, not for the, 

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you know, not not for the whole 
shenanigan with the phone, the 

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bro, when you guys just you guys
were just better than everyone 

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else, like in your planning. 
I just remembered towards the 

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end the animosity really started
to grow when you guys locked 

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down demonic gorillas. 
Oh, that was bad dude. 

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Bro, when you. 
Guys had demonic gorillas locked

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down and everyone was mad in the
comments every day and nobody 

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could get their Zen eyes and you
guys just like watching everyone

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else's PO VS of like how do they
get like every other team was 

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trying to figure out how to get 
into that cave and you guys 

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didn't really let it happen. 
Like I don't I if I remember 

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correctly, like no one really 
got in and. 

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That was that was a couple like,
yeah, so but that's like the 

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old, that's the old dead man 
spirit, like tapping into that. 

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And that's why I think it's 
entered. 

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It's more entertaining if things
like that happen because when 

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they do get through and get as a
night, it's a great moment. 

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Like when he lies at the G, 
you'd be like, oh, could drop it

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like monkey nuts and shit. 
It's like it's creating content.

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Like I I personally think that 
makes it more interesting. 

445
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,120
Like, yeah, I'm you got to 
remember a lot of the feedback 

446
00:21:20,120 --> 00:21:22,720
is like, if people already don't
like your team, they're going to

447
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,280
be like, yeah, it's so cringe, 
so cringe. 

448
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,240
Like why are you doing that? 
Like cringe strategy. 

449
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,880
But at the end of the day, it's 
no different to the smokes 

450
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,400
locking down the temple of Icon,
right? 

451
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,560
It's like, it's like that meme 
where it's like the the the hot 

452
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,720
guys like Oh yeah, so sweet. 
And the new ones like cringe all

453
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,640
of a sudden because they're 
Oakley or some shit because I 

454
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:39,680
haven't fucking ate some 
already. 

455
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,920
Do you know what I'm talking 
about? 

456
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:51,160
It's the same shit, so. 
But yeah, like I think stuff 

457
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,840
like that creates bit like more 
interesting moments overall. 

458
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,000
I don't think it's good content 
if everyone just goes and gets 

459
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,800
their gear and like they're just
doing Slayer tasks. 

460
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,080
Like if you want to watch that, 
it's available 365 days of the 

461
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,160
year on Twitch. 
Do you know what I mean? 

462
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,680
Like I think like having some 
animosity, having some tension 

463
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,480
is good. 
It was great. 

464
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,320
I loved it. 
There was real. 

465
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,360
It was real palpable tension. 
Like there was real anger. 

466
00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:17,840
Like people and not amongst like
obviously amongst the 

467
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,960
competitors, right, But like the
viewers too, like the audience, 

468
00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:23,080
just like you could feel it, 
dude. 

469
00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:25,520
It was so great. 
Yeah, but in in the words of 

470
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,720
being the victim, I think he 
said it when we were considering

471
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,360
it. 
He was like bro, everyone 

472
00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:31,680
already hates us, we may as well
secure the win. 

473
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:38,560
I was not Fair enough mom. 
Oh my God. 

474
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,600
So. 
Yeah, well, we so we did the 

475
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,200
highlight videos last year as 
well. 

476
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,160
We're coming back this year. 
Thanks Solo mission. 

477
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,880
Thanks Jag X. 
And the sense that I got 

478
00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:57,920
overwhelmingly is that it almost
felt like the viewers were more,

479
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,480
they felt a real sense of anger 
about a lot of things that 

480
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,280
happened. 
I think the viewers took it more

481
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,000
seriously than the competitors. 
Like there is sure some slight 

482
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,960
tension between the actual 
competitors, but it was, you 

483
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,320
know, kind of handshakes all 
around. 

484
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,800
Everybody knew it was content, 
but some of the dude, some of 

485
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,360
the viewers, some of the 
commenters on the highlight 

486
00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:22,600
videos last year were like 
genuinely very angry and very 

487
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,760
vicious. 
When you come across that, when 

488
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,080
I think from your perspective 
from the creator, from a 

489
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,960
competitor, it doesn't feel that
serious. 

490
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,880
But then when you see that kind 
of backlash come out from the 

491
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,520
greater community, how does that
resonate with you? 

492
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,720
How do you deal with that? 
How do you process that? 

493
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,600
Oh, it was really bad last year.
Like, don't get me wrong, like 

494
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,520
I, I wouldn't say I particularly
enjoyed playing the week because

495
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,080
I felt like it was going to 
shit. 

496
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:53,640
But at the same time it's it's, 
it's we were in such a difficult

497
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,080
position really. 
And I think I handle handled it 

498
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,160
poorly as well. 
I think in hindsight, I should 

499
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:03,000
have just taken a day off and 
just broken down everything that

500
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,560
happened it like that had LED up
and just got all the facts out 

501
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,840
there and and just taken a whole
a full day off. 

502
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,880
Like not like just AFK Ed 
something, but obviously I 

503
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,440
didn't do I didn't do that. 
I mean it. 

504
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,320
I mean this is this is another 
thing where it's like it's kind 

505
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,360
of it's silly. 
If I don't need to compete, I 

506
00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:25,720
shouldn't because I can have 
more, you know, more of a voice 

507
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,160
on these things and like, set 
the record straight and stuff. 

508
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,640
Because so, for example, when 
like after the Tsar breach, when

509
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,560
it was all started kicking off, 
like I hadn't even slept at that

510
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:40,840
point and I was about to go like
I was going to sleep, which like

511
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,680
was like the worst possible 
timing. 

512
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:51,800
But yeah, it's, I mean, it's 
difficult because it, yeah, 

513
00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:54,440
it's, it's, it's, it's tough. 
So, so this year, for example, 

514
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,120
again, I'm concerned, I'm 
concerned every year because 

515
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,760
I've every single time I type 
about like we need, we need to 

516
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,040
try and change the culture 
around this whole like stream 

517
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,760
sniping saga, this drama, 
because like, it's the, like 

518
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,000
it's one of the first things 
Chinese brings up to me 

519
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,160
afterwards of like, like, yeah, 
that it's not great because 

520
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,520
like, like there's so much 
negativity and like, and like, 

521
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,880
like some like some of the 
people on my team, like they 

522
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,760
just get like it. 
They like say, like none of them

523
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,760
were doing anything particularly
wrong, right. 

524
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,080
And they're just getting tons 
and tons of hate and stuff. 

525
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,200
And the whole problem is you can
never really tell if someone is 

526
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:38,320
actually stream sniping or not. 
You just kind of I, I feel sorry

527
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:43,160
for data because I don't think I
properly laid out all the kills 

528
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,800
that we got, all the decisions 
that were being made. 

529
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:45,960
And I think I should have done 
that. 

530
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,040
I'm like, yeah, it's with the 
whole chat, the whole chat 

531
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,600
dramas of like people saying 
stuff in the chat, a streamer 

532
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,440
reading it, and then they they, 
they change what they're doing 

533
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,880
based on that. 
That's a problem. 

534
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,640
I think all these things are 
massive problems. 

535
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,040
But at the end of the day, All 
Stars has to try and balance 

536
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,720
like content and entertainment 
with competitiveness. 

537
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,880
Don't get me wrong, like 
competitiveness, it, it does 

538
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,800
drive entertainment and content.
Like people love watching 

539
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,240
professional sports because it's
like it's serious thing and they

540
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,920
want to they just want to see 
the best people wearing. 

541
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,280
But it's at the the same time 
the the entertainment side is 

542
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,960
really important. 
And that's just that's the I 

543
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,560
think that's the main thing of 
All Stars, like the them team is

544
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,240
more important than the 
competitive element. 

545
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,360
Obviously always will be 
competitive, but this so this 

546
00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:35,520
year, for example, because I'm 
worried about it again, right? 

547
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,040
Like I think there's going to be
probably going to be tons of 

548
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,680
drama again. 
Like it we're 2 for two with 

549
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,840
stream sniper saw gears and do 
you know what I mean? 

550
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,960
Like it's it's almost impossible
to stop. 

551
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,880
So I surveyed all the 
competitors and I was like, you 

552
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,520
know, do you think these things 
are a problem? 

553
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,680
Basically it's all come back 
with yeah, problem slash big 

554
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,280
problem. 
But and then I'm like, OK, so 

555
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,280
like, do you want to do this, 
this or this to help try and 

556
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,840
solve the problem? 
And everyone's like, no, we 

557
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,600
don't want to do that. 
Like we don't want to do like 

558
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,120
any sort of like they don't 
really want to do fire only 

559
00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:07,720
mode. 
They don't do like any sub only 

560
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,000
modes. 
They don't want to do any 

561
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,640
delays. 
I'm like, that's fair enough. 

562
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,920
Like, so, So like at the end of 
the day, I don't want to force 

563
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,160
all 30 people to, like, do 
things against their will. 

564
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,840
Like, yes, it yes, it would make
the event more competitive, like

565
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,880
have more competitive integrity 
and all the rest of it. 

566
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,200
But at the end of the day, it is
for entertainment. 

567
00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:27,200
Like, yeah, it would make my 
life a hell of a lot easier if 

568
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,840
everyone's on a 15 minute delay.
But ultimately I just, I just 

569
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,920
don't think it would be as good 
for content. 

570
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,760
I just hope that people aren't 
being like dickheads and chats 

571
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,920
and stuff like that because 
yeah, plus like what? 

572
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,720
What ruins stuff like that? 
Like what? 

573
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,600
I'm thinking of hosting other 
events in the future. 

574
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,880
I'm thinking like, OK, I need to
try and have the whole stream 

575
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,320
snipe drama shit and not be any 
element of this whatsoever, 

576
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,000
which is difficult because like 
the best, the best events will 

577
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,000
be live, right? 
So. 

578
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,000
Yeah, yeah. 
I mean, it's it's it is kind of 

579
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,360
in a way like a really 
insurmountable problem because 

580
00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:09,440
there's hundreds of thousands of
people watching this event. 

581
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,480
Like the chances that someone 
goes into their favorite 

582
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,680
streamers chat and it's like, 
hey, this guy is doing this is 

583
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,800
100%. 
And the streamer, like I know 

584
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,080
all the streamers are very much 
like, hey, don't spoil it. 

585
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,880
They ban people that do it, but 
they're still going to do it. 

586
00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:25,880
It's a. 
Thing that's going to happen. 

587
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,640
Yeah. 
And I like there's not really a 

588
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,640
way to fix that that does not 
ultimately harm the 

589
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,400
entertainment of the event, 
which is the most important 

590
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,840
part. 
So if it's, if it's any 

591
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,040
consolation, I do think the 
system that you're running right

592
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,440
now is probably the best one. 
There's going to be, I mean, 

593
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,320
like drawbacks. 
Also like I and I do and I do 

594
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,360
trust all the competitors like, 
you know, do their best with 

595
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,960
like trying to not use the live 
information and all that sort of

596
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,200
stuff. 
So, so this year we've got 

597
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,880
another thing that like I was 
like, guys, we have to do 

598
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,360
something bro. 
So I was like, at the very 

599
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,400
least, like we're like that. 
They're not, they're not the 

600
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,080
competitors this year. 
They're not allowed to pull up, 

601
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,640
pull up any old random clips to 
watch like on stream. 

602
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,960
Because I was complaining about 
that last year of like, I think 

603
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,160
there's like, you don't know how
old the clip is until you click 

604
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,840
it. 
So you could click, you can, 

605
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,080
people are watching clips at 
like 2 hours old and that 

606
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,000
technically gives them 
information that they shouldn't 

607
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,440
have. 
So this year we're going to have

608
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,160
like, well, I mean, there's, 
there's debate at the moment 

609
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,640
about what to do. 
So like half the competitors say

610
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,040
we don't want we we think that 
none of us should watch anything

611
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,680
ever. 
And obviously the other side of 

612
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:41,560
that is like, I think I'm a bit 
more on this side personally of 

613
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,920
I think I think you kind of have
to let people watch some things 

614
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,640
and that does help the content 
as well. 

615
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,040
Like because like when a big 
moment happens, when there's a 

616
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,840
really funny clip or something, 
like I think that it gains 

617
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,400
traction and becomes like a big 
moment because people, other 

618
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,760
people do know about it. 
Like for example, when Torvesta 

619
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,520
killed ODA, right? 
Like the, the refs made it 

620
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,240
because because obviously it's 
in every chat. 

621
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,040
So they all know like everyone 
knows what's people, people know

622
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,200
what's going on because like, 
you know, it's like the biggest 

623
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,480
moment ever. 
Like I don't want to in that 

624
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,040
circumstance. 
The referee said, oh, like 

625
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,880
Torvesta killed ODA. 
Here's the clip guys, because 

626
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:21,840
like everyone knows what's 
happened. 

627
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,840
Like you, you guys may as well 
watch it and if there's 

628
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,560
something funny or like that, 
the highlight videos, there's 

629
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,280
there's always because like you 
guys know from the highlight 

630
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,720
videos that sometimes people 
they want something hidden 

631
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,880
because they don't want the 
other competitors to see skills 

632
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:42,120
bank goes yeah, same. 
Name out loud mode Aaron. 

633
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,800
Example that that happens as 
well of you know, I don't know, 

634
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,520
it's it's difficult and also 
like I know I trust people to 

635
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,280
not cheat in terms of stream 
snapping, but like I think a lot

636
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,480
of people would just still watch
the highlight videos off stream 

637
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,240
anyway, Like I think like I 
don't know. 

638
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,280
We make that good at videos 
they're going to sneak away and 

639
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,560
watch. 
Them, thank you so much. 

640
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,680
It's just like it's such a it's 
such a big thing and there's 

641
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,600
such big moments that like, I 
think it'd be very hard for 

642
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,840
people to resist the temptation 
or even like they open Twitter. 

643
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,200
Do you know what I mean? 
They're going to get spoilers 

644
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,840
like they're getting spoilers in
the chats anyway. 

645
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,920
I think a halfway House of only 
greenlit clips on the highlight 

646
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,280
videos is a good way to manage 
that. 

647
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,760
But. 
Yeah, we could have a Greenlit 

648
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,800
Clips channel in the Discord. 
It'd be kind of cool. 

649
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,640
Yeah. 
So it it would be stuff that 

650
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,880
isn't really given away, like 
big strategy. 

651
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,560
It'd be more like funny stuff or
like earlier deaths where it's 

652
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,840
like it's not as relevant 
anymore to what they're doing at

653
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,160
the moment. 
It's it's a tough like it's 

654
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,920
again, it's that entertainment 
versus competitiveness thing 

655
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,920
like yelling. 
Yeah, people could be locked in 

656
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,560
a box like with absolutely 
nothing and that would be the 

657
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,600
best thing for the competition 
in terms of competitiveness. 

658
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,880
But I don't know it's the best 
thing for. 

659
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,920
The good Mr. Beast video, 
probably. 

660
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,120
Yeah. 
In a in a funny way, like a lot 

661
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,480
of the competitive fairness that
comes out of a dead man actually

662
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,800
comes down to the individual 
moderators of these twitch 

663
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,680
streams. 
Like the mods have to be on top 

664
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,480
of banning the people that are, 
you know, spoiling stuff. 

665
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,520
It's so interesting. 
Like that really is the wall. 

666
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,120
It's because the streamer's not 
going to, you know, like the 

667
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,280
streamer's going to be locked in
like they're never looking and 

668
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,080
they're their streams are 
usually massive. 

669
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,960
So the chats of Waterfall 
anyways. 

670
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,160
And it really comes down to 
those mods like are the are the 

671
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,880
mods of this individual streamer
being good or bad? 

672
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,160
And like that's, that's a 
massive line of defense in the 

673
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,720
whole, I guess. 
Share. 

674
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,120
I mean, I mean, you see it for a
split, you see a comment for a 

675
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,200
split second and then, you know,
the information and people deal 

676
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,480
with that in different ways. 
Like ideally they wouldn't act 

677
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,760
on the information, but you 
know, you can't. 

678
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,320
Like, it's hard to not to. 
Yeah. 

679
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,280
What? 
Are you going to do? 

680
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,000
It's so difficult to not do 
that. 

681
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,720
And there's also other things 
that happen. 

682
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:57,120
So for example, say, if like, 
say, if one team is waiting for 

683
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,880
somebody to come and do a quest,
the guy who's doing the quest, 

684
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,200
like they see their view account
go up by 2000 people. 

685
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:08,520
So they're like, oh, why is my 
view account fucking and all 

686
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,360
this sort of stuff? 
Yeah, it's it's tough. 

687
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,680
And I think you, I've just got 
to ask the guys to do the best 

688
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,440
that they can do. 
And I think, I think they do for

689
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,440
the most part. 
And it's the same thing about 

690
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,400
like so last year, the whole 
thing about having the 

691
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,160
directories pulled up, like 
multiple people have done that 

692
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,440
in both seasons. 
And it's like the referees can't

693
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,600
kick somebody out of the 
competition for having a 

694
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,840
directory pulled up because 
like, otherwise we'd end up with

695
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,920
like 4 four month, like, you 
know, 4 month teams on like most

696
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,760
of the teams, like most people, 
multiple people get got yellow 

697
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:46,040
cards for that last year. 
So yes, a fucking nightmare. 

698
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:51,560
I. 
Mean, Speaking of E sports, I 

699
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,640
was I was watching a counter 
strike podcast. 

700
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:59,400
I'm a big counter strike fan and
that's also a massive issue in 

701
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,240
land tournaments in counter 
strike where there's like 2 PO 

702
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,000
VS one person's hitting in a 
smoke and the other person is 

703
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,040
aiming right at them. 
They just don't know because 

704
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,480
they're looking into the smoke 
and the crowd goes insane and 

705
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,560
they start cheering and the. 
Person's like, oh they're 

706
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:16,960
clearly right here and they. 
Shoot, and yeah, like the crowd 

707
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,760
gives away information no matter
what. 

708
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,760
People wear noise cancelling 
headphones, but it doesn't 

709
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,520
really matter because you can 
still feel it. 

710
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,600
You know there's nothing you can
do to prevent that. 

711
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:33,360
And that's genuinely just become
an aspect of land tournaments in

712
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,159
Counter Strike. 
It's like dealing with the crowd

713
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:39,560
the best that you can. 
There's there's really no way to

714
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,639
win in that scenario. 
There's nothing you can really 

715
00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:45,360
do. 
Yeah, I, I, I had a similar 

716
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,800
situation when I saw I played on
once on stage, once at one of 

717
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,880
the on the, on the very last one
of those dead man tournaments in

718
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,679
2019. 
And it's so funny because like 

719
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,360
we just sat next to each other 
on stage and me and Curtis were 

720
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,560
in different like alliances of 
clans. 

721
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,840
So like in, in those all dead 
minds, you'd have like a huge 

722
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,600
alliance of like a bunch of 
clans as a he was in the 

723
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,520
opposite alliance. 
So I was just sat there in the 

724
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,560
final area and been like, oh, 
well, I know they're not. 

725
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,160
I didn't say it to my team, but 
I was like, I know they're not 

726
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,040
coming because I can see this 
motherfucker screen. 

727
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:21,120
Like I was like, I'm sure my 
good man. 

728
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,440
It's just like scream looking 
that was actually not looking. 

729
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,440
That's good, you little scream 
peeker. 

730
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,800
But yeah, it's it's it's so 
difficult and it's my least 

731
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,000
favorite part by absolutely 
miles. 

732
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,560
But like most of the viewers are
great about it and it's like 

733
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,040
it's only going to be like a 
small minority that make it 

734
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,240
shit. 
And yeah. 

735
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,120
I think, I think last year, 
honestly, like, yeah, there was 

736
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,240
a lot of animosity about the 
whole like sniping and 

737
00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:51,200
everything. 
From my perspective, the thing 

738
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,400
that I disliked the most, which 
it seems like you fixed this 

739
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,520
year, was the the food for the 
finale. 

740
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,080
You guys were just like you guys
were. 

741
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:05,040
No one had a chance and. 
Now like I, I understand the 

742
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,040
blood money is different this 
time. 

743
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,640
Like I don't know enough about 
PvP to know like it like how 

744
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,440
impactful this is going to be. 
Do you think the blood money 

745
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,320
situation's like a lot better? 
Would you say it was bad last 

746
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,600
year and that this year it's a 
lot better? 

747
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,160
Yeah, it it was. 
It was it was bad last year and 

748
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:22,640
it was an oversight. 
So so last year the thought 

749
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,280
process going in was we had like
it was already reasonably, it 

750
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,480
was just, it was just punishing 
for deaths in season 1. 

751
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,400
And like massive feedback was 
like, it needs to be 

752
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,120
incentivized. 
You need to incentivize, 

753
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:35,920
incentivize kills because like 
that's more interesting. 

754
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,360
So it's like, OK, like we're 
doing, we're doing both, both 

755
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,280
ways. 
And it was, yeah, it like 

756
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:48,240
obviously in hindsight it was 
way overtuned, but it's going to

757
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:50,400
sound salty. 
But I think part of the problem 

758
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:55,560
is what with season the season 2
food things is like getting a 

759
00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:00,080
piece of a food in the finale is
such like an intangible benefit.

760
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,720
Like the matter last year was 
like, why? 

761
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:05,400
Like you should, you should be 
going to kill people like a lot,

762
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,480
a lot more than people were 
really like people. 

763
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,640
It's, it's, it's insane to me 
that people were still doing so 

764
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,040
much PVM at the breaches when 
they could just go kill somebody

765
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,600
with 22 hit points. 
It's like, yeah, but I, I think,

766
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,000
I think we ran those exact same 
rules back again. 

767
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,200
I don't think you'll be anywhere
near as bad because I think 

768
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,320
everyone would get it and they'd
get it from the very first day. 

769
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:31,360
But obviously people they'd 
yeah, it was, it was, it was, it

770
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,760
was bad. 
It was bad. 

771
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,480
And that's why we've changed it 
to be the blood money. 

772
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,320
The blood money is not. 
So the advantages will be way 

773
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,480
less. 
It'll be it's about 1/3 as 

774
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,440
impactful now all the kills as 
last time, which worries me 

775
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:51,080
somewhat because I'm like kills 
were so good last time and 

776
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,160
people still wouldn't kill each 
other at some of the breaches. 

777
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,040
They still were clicking the 
monsters. 

778
00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:59,320
And I'm like, how much more 
incentive like everyone's like, 

779
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,600
yeah, like kills are way too OP.
But then people still will click

780
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,160
the monsters on the Oh man. 
I think yeah, it's, it's 

781
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,800
difficult. 
So I think I think this time 

782
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:08,920
it'll be OK. 
I see. 

783
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,280
I think the breaches are just 
going to be an absolute PBM fest

784
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,320
this time because the kills on 
as incentivised as last time, 

785
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:20,480
but I would say it's that's OK 
because I think you'll get a 

786
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,120
hell of a lot of PvP from the 
missions. 

787
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,800
So the the problem that a lot of
the teams have is they they're 

788
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,080
actually really scared of 
getting third partied. 

789
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,400
So like they never want to 
initiate a fight. 

790
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,920
So you have you have two teams 
fighting and then and then you a

791
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,400
lot of the times inevitably 
another team joins the fight and

792
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,880
these two teams are kind of like
fucked because like now you've 

793
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,480
got even 2. 
You're 5050 if I'm two teams on 

794
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,520
you. 
So no one wants to be the the 

795
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,680
team gets their party. 
So like that stops a lot of 

796
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,120
people from initiating. 
And that's why I don't think the

797
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,080
breaches will be as PvP heavy 
this time, especially without 

798
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,680
the incentives. 
But the, the design of the 

799
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,160
missions, the missions are 
designed to change that 

800
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,120
completely because of the 
mission totem, right? 

801
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,800
There's never a reason not to 
attack the guy with the red 

802
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,600
skull. 
So like when you pick, when you 

803
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,560
complete a mission, so that's 
like for people that don't know,

804
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,760
you complete a mission, you kill
a monster, you kill a boss, and 

805
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,440
then it drops a mission totem to
people. 

806
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,680
The person that does the most 
damage when you pick up that 

807
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,960
mission totem, everyone knows 
who's picked it up and they have

808
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,240
a red skull above the head. 
And so in that in that instance,

809
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,720
there's no why there's no reason
not to attack that guy. 

810
00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:30,280
So that there's no like, oh, 
we're scared of getting third 

811
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,160
party because anyone that comes 
into that room is going to 

812
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,640
attack the red school guy, 
right. 

813
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,560
So like, I think it's going to 
be a lot more positive and PvP 

814
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,000
first in the missions this year.
And then. 

815
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,360
Yeah. 
And then who whoever manages 

816
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,800
manages to bring the totem back 
to the Grand Exchange gets a 

817
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,200
reward. 
So that's how the mission system

818
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,840
works. 
Is is actually inspired by I 

819
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,880
remember back in bounty into 
craters in like 2008, there was 

820
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,840
a video. 
So they used to be, they used to

821
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,000
be completely multi and clans 
would sit in the middle of this 

822
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,720
crater and people would teleport
in and just get smashed by by by

823
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:06,800
by by the team in multi. 
It's so imbalanced. 

824
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:11,000
It's just crazy. 
I always remember watching as a 

825
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,960
kid this video. 
So like back in the craters, 

826
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,720
they also had the things where 
in the recent dead man, it shows

827
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:18,640
the value of your loot above 
your head. 

828
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:21,040
That's the color of the school. 
That's what it corresponds to. 

829
00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:23,920
I always remember somebody 
teleports into the mosh pit, 

830
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,880
they get killed for a Sara 
sword, which gave you a red 

831
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,040
skull. 
And then like how it was back in

832
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,280
there, there's this clan in the 
middle. 

833
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,880
Like it's my clown. 
I'm like loosely associated, you

834
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,920
know, loosely associated people.
And then someone picks the 

835
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,320
person who gets the loot, picks 
it up, they get the red skull 

836
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,760
above their head, so they have 
the Sara sword. 

837
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,480
Someone's like fuck it, jump on 
them. 

838
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,160
So they jump on them. 
He dies, the next guy picks up, 

839
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,640
he makes it a few more steps to 
the exit, he dies and and like 

840
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,840
that, that's the sort of 
inspiration for the mission 

841
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,720
totem system. 
And that that's the way I see it

842
00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:55,480
going of like especially like 
the the hat, the tier one 

843
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,760
missions where it's like it's 
going to be something good 

844
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,200
that's coming from that. 
And it's like, why the hell 

845
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,760
would you not attack the guy 
that has the really good thing 

846
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,520
essentially is is the design so 
that I think the missions will 

847
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,120
be very PvP centric. 
The breaches probably less so 

848
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,960
because the missions will be so 
much PvP. 

849
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,440
So still a lot of excitement 
even though the incentives are 

850
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:17,840
diminished. 
It's just a different way to 

851
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,600
incentivize people to attack 
each other. 

852
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,800
Watching last year the teams. 
Definitely when they rolled up 

853
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,840
to those breaches, they wanted 
to PVM they they didn't really 

854
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:30,440
want to and I guess to like what
you said, like you knew because 

855
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,840
you made the rules that like you
want to kill there. 

856
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,840
And so that's like one of those 
advantages. 

857
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,360
Yeah. 
I mean, I mean, it wasn't, it 

858
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,520
wasn't a. 
Secret I was I was I was telling

859
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,160
people beforehand like I want to
balance this. 

860
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,320
So it's almost it's more worth 
going into a breach aggressive 

861
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,760
than it is to kill the monsters.
But I mean that, that, that 

862
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,800
obviously that there's, there's 
counter arguments to that of 

863
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,440
like, well, it's all well and 
good saying that if you've got 

864
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,880
the strongest multi team or if 
you have the best sigils or 

865
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,440
whatever else. 
And I and I get that. 

866
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,080
But like there's definitely 
there's definitely instances 

867
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,320
where like it was absolutely 
matter for some of these teams 

868
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,480
to attack each other and they 
just didn't. 

869
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,120
How did that one Varlemore 
breach feel when everyone was 

870
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,080
after you guys? 
That she was so funny. 

871
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,680
That was that was maybe my 
favorite moment of that was so 

872
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,000
funny. 
And if we're talking about 

873
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,800
entertainment first, right, 
things like that are absolutely 

874
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,600
perfect. 
Like that's the moment that 

875
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,000
everyone remembers and that 
moment is so good because 

876
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,360
they're what there, there is the
drama leading into that. 

877
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:36,760
And, and don't get like I, I 
know that like I know that we, 

878
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,280
we're like enemy #1 like Apatow,
everyone just hopped on us when 

879
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,000
they saw us. 
Like, but I like we need like we

880
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,000
need to go to the breach because
eventually we need to give 

881
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,960
people that moment where they do
actually get the kill. 

882
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,560
And like that, that was just 
such a, so I was, I was a man. 

883
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,960
I I think some of, I think some 
of my teammates were a bit like,

884
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,480
oh fuck sake, it's so cringe. 
Like that's gonna be even 

885
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:00,160
better. 
Dude. 

886
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:05,120
They were so butt hurt. 
Your teammates were so butt 

887
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,240
hurt. 
It was so good. 

888
00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:12,120
It was so great. 
But like inside I was like, OK, 

889
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,920
that's it's a, it's a good thing
that happened because it gives 

890
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,120
people that release and that, 
that's like the pay off, right? 

891
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,400
It's the pay off of the show 
where the bad guy dies and that 

892
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:21,560
that's the moment everyone 
remembers. 

893
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,280
It's like people's favorite 
moment from season 2. 

894
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,080
So it was a great moment. 
Fond memories. 

895
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:27,120
I mean, I didn't. 
Die. 

896
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,400
So hey, maybe I would have been 
thought if I actually died. 

897
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,160
I just left my guys with that. 
But yeah, the stuff like that is

898
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:36,480
amazing. 
But there's obviously a line 

899
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,360
with all the drama and stuff. 
I I, I couldn't believe, but I 

900
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,680
couldn't believe it was, I think
it's Evscape tweeted out like 

901
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,480
Hitler Daddles, you know, 
whether, whether I love those 

902
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,280
words. 
I thought I was going to that 

903
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,920
drama gone that shit. 
I didn't that shit got like 3K 

904
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,680
likes on Twitter in like 10 
minutes. 

905
00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:56,680
I'm like, oh, Oh my God, this is
going crazy. 

906
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,360
And that was just hot. 
I was like, I thought Twitter 

907
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,400
was dead. 
It was like, oh, she's nuclear. 

908
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,880
But yeah, that was absolutely. 
Hilarious. 

909
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,880
Yeah, dude, the missions. 
Extremely excited for those. 

910
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,560
I think that's that and the 
blood money together. 

911
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,880
I think you've made some really 
good changes to the season. 

912
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,200
I think like honestly, I 
understood the gripes with the 

913
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:25,200
the food and the incentives to 
kill last year in season 2, I 

914
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:30,360
thought maybe what detracted the
most from the finale was the 

915
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,400
sigils. 
Everyone loaded up on that tank 

916
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,720
sigil or whatever that was, and 
I think from a viewer 

917
00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:40,640
perspective, it just looked like
people kind of poking each other

918
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,160
until they ran out of food and 
then there wasn't really a lot 

919
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:47,120
of KO potential, which is why 
the food became such an issue. 

920
00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:50,840
Yeah. 
I mean, I think the sigils in 

921
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,640
the finale was a mistake as 
well. 

922
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,880
I mean, it's difficult, right? 
Because I think every season has

923
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,840
to be different otherwise it's 
just boring. 

924
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,240
That's what killed the original 
dead man and sigils was like an 

925
00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:04,440
obvious thing to do. 
The the tank having the tank 

926
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,760
sigils in the finale was 
definitely a mistake, I think. 

927
00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:11,880
But it's it's it's it's hard, 
right? 

928
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,960
Because so if I, if I, when I 
tell people that Rampart wasn't 

929
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,000
even the best sigil, they'll be 
like, what do you mean? 

930
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,600
It wasn't it's 100 range 
defence, but like adroit was the

931
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,040
best sigil. 
People who left that in the 

932
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,720
bank, like they didn't even use 
it like it it, it gives you it 

933
00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:30,600
gives you 1% accuracy. 
It gives you 1% accuracy about 

934
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:31,800
every hit point that you're 
missing. 

935
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,720
And bearing in mind in these 
fights, you don't be on like 60 

936
00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:36,320
hit points. 
So you get 40% accuracy in PvP 

937
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,560
from the sigil that like maths 
wise that is definitely better 

938
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,440
than Rampart was, but that 
wasn't really talked about. 

939
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,760
And I like before when I, when I
was thinking about which sigils 

940
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,200
to ban, I, I banned some ones 
which on because I did the maps 

941
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,560
and stuff and like the ones that
were really OPI banned them. 

942
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,800
There was like 3 ones. 
There was one which recharged 

943
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,320
the hit points really quickly, 
ones which like gave you, you 

944
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,240
know, you gave got extra hit 
points when you ate a food and 

945
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:03,440
stuff like that. 
And like Rampart was not create.

946
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,920
It wasn't out of line with the 
other top sigils once I'd got 

947
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,880
rid of these three really good 
ones. 

948
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,040
So like I was like, OK, it's not
really that much of a problem. 

949
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,760
Like getting Rampart is like 
getting some a good item. 

950
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,760
It's like getting, you know, 
like ancestral ropes up. 

951
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:24,200
It's just part of the game. 
But in hindsight, like having 

952
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,120
tank stuff on, people didn't 
like it. 

953
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:33,000
And I, I, I, I agree, I think 
having sigils in normal O7 PvP 

954
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,200
is pretty balanced as it is, But
when you put sigils in there, 

955
00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:39,040
you, you start to unbalance 
that, especially if people 

956
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,800
aren't making the best choices 
about what gear they're giving 

957
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,280
each person and what sigils they
have on each person. 

958
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,800
So for example, for me, like I 
was fighting West Ham who had 

959
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,440
like AVLS and really melee heavy
sigils. 

960
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,760
So like it means that the skill 
needed there for me to win, but 

961
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,120
the best strategy is just to run
away out of melee range and like

962
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:02,520
do a range mage fight against 
him. 

963
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,000
Like every single time, like I'm
on frozen, I'm I was sprinting 

964
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,400
away and that that's not very, 
that's not skilful. 

965
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,800
But that only really worked 
because he went heavy on his 

966
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,800
Malay sigils. 
And like, like we, we both had 

967
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,240
rampart, but like I just had to 
run away from his VLS 

968
00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:20,880
essentially. 
And I and I, I think I think 

969
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,320
it's better if the finale is 
more skill based than the sigil 

970
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,400
stuff. 
I mean, people do love the the 

971
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,040
sigil people. 
People are mixed. 

972
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,720
I think some some people like 
the fact that like, you know, 

973
00:47:31,720 --> 00:47:35,160
you can choose good sigils and, 
and be smart and get an 

974
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,240
advantage by the end of the day.
I think people just want to see,

975
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,760
I think more people want to see 
raw PvP scale, especially 

976
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,480
because we're like we're so 
starved for that sort of stuff 

977
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,360
nowadays. 
Yeah, people. 

978
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,040
People want to see blood. 
Yeah, I think, yeah. 

979
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,640
Now hindsight is 2020 on that 
one. 

980
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:55,200
It's 'cause I feel like you can 
work out all the math that you 

981
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,360
want and you are correct. 
But I think there's there's like

982
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,520
a psychological phenomenon where
I think competitors do their 

983
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,640
best to play it safe in the 
finale. 

984
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:09,760
Like they are taking the lowest 
variance setups, which, you 

985
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,600
know, Rampart was obviously a 
part of. 

986
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,720
I think people are probably 
afraid to take a Droid and then 

987
00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:17,840
risk sitting on, you know, 6050 
HP the whole time. 

988
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,520
Yeah, I mean. 
I mean, this year it's like, 

989
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,480
yeah, people were tanky last 
year, but there also was 

990
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,800
offensive sigils. 
Like people are still United 9 

991
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,520
defence with Barrows on, right? 
Like you see you're still pretty

992
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,320
tanky. 
Realistically, main fights are 

993
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:36,400
reasonably slow paced as it is. 
But but so this year we've like 

994
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,920
fully, fully heard the feedback.
I'm like, yeah, it was an 

995
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,800
oversight having the tank sigils
in there. 

996
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,440
And that's why I brought in like
a vengeance trinket that you can

997
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,000
buy for blood money this time. 
So like more potential for 

998
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,040
someone to get code a match is 
never really over because 

999
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:54,520
somebody could time avenge and 
expect together and get that KO.

1000
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,040
So yeah. 
And and the the food stuff. 

1001
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,480
Yeah, the food stuff I just 
changed, sorry, just to get back

1002
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,280
to the the blood money thing of 
getting an extra food in the 

1003
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,480
finale. 
That was such like a intangible 

1004
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,720
incentive. 
But saving up the blood money to

1005
00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:11,400
buy a VLS just sounds so much 
more appealing. 

1006
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,720
And I was like, we have to get 
that VLS, even though on paper 

1007
00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:17,760
that's nowhere near as good as 
getting extra food, like 

1008
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,640
compared to Season 2. 
I think just the psychological 

1009
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,880
thing of like, we don't have a 
VLS, let's go and kill some 

1010
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,960
people so that we can secure 
that VLS. 

1011
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,920
We'll we'll actually be more of 
an incentive, even though like, 

1012
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,720
realistically, if you could 
choose, you would always choose 

1013
00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:33,200
to have the Season 2 incentive 
over a 40 queen VLS all over. 

1014
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,640
Yeah, yeah. 
VLS is fucking cool though. 

1015
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,480
So that's super important, you 
know? 

1016
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:40,040
Yeah. 
And. 

1017
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,840
It's also the element of now if 
you're getting unlucky at the 

1018
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,320
breaches and you've been a good 
team and you've played well, 

1019
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,480
like it's good that you have 
sort of like a non RNG way of 

1020
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,120
securing that BLS. 
So I I I do. 

1021
00:49:53,240 --> 00:49:55,440
I do quite like that with the 
blood money system this year. 

1022
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,960
Oh, the venturing it only. 
Has two charges too. 

1023
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,440
I'm looking. 
Yeah, the Venturing, it has 2. 

1024
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,480
Charges and that the reason for 
that is, is because it's to make

1025
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,000
it so it's more about timing 
your spec to go for KO because 

1026
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,720
if it was infinite charges, you 
just click that share soon as 

1027
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:13,600
it's up and use it for DPS and 
it's not as interesting really. 

1028
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,440
I like that. 
That's the main reason the 11 

1029
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,600
change that's got. 
Me nervous is I don't I mean I 

1030
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,440
don't know why I'm nervous, but 
I am It's just it sounds scary 

1031
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,560
the no safe zones besides bro 
bro. 

1032
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:30,000
Bro, I like that. 
I like that I'm a big fan. 

1033
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:31,480
Who's? 
Shutting down. 

1034
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,040
Defenders, you know, like, Oh my
God, it's, there's so much, 

1035
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,480
there's just it that's going to 
change. 

1036
00:50:37,720 --> 00:50:41,040
That's going to change a lot. 
That's going to change so much. 

1037
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,240
I think like from last year, 
it's terrifying. 

1038
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,960
And now from the missions, 
everyone's running to the same 

1039
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,400
spot. 
Like it's not all these safe 

1040
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,520
zones spread out all over. 
Everyone's meeting at Varrock, 

1041
00:50:53,720 --> 00:50:56,240
and there's only a couple 
entrances in, you know, like, 

1042
00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:59,240
you can count how many ways you 
can get into that safe zone. 

1043
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,160
Yeah. 
The no safe zones thing is that 

1044
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:09,560
that was what I I'm always on 
the side of more PvP is good, 

1045
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,240
more people dying is good, more 
people killing like killing each

1046
00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:14,080
of it is good. 
And it's actually the 

1047
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,160
competitors that are often on 
the other side of that of like, 

1048
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,160
you can't make it too savage, 
which is like always surprising 

1049
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,960
because like they're more P 
Often the people I'm talking to 

1050
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,560
this about are more PvP is the 
main and their their feedback 

1051
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,480
tends to be like, but like 
people get slaughtered. 

1052
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,200
Like it's like, you know, people
are going to quit and stuff. 

1053
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,880
But it's it's more I'm always 
trying to make it so like, you 

1054
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,720
know, actually fighting is the 
way is the way to go. 

1055
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,200
And I think no safe zones are 
such an easy way to do that 

1056
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,160
because at the end of the day, 
all all the people playing in 

1057
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,120
this competition doesn't matter 
if they're first pick, last 

1058
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,720
pick, whatever. 
They're all really confident 

1059
00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:49,160
with dead man mode. 
Like they don't need to have 

1060
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:50,480
safe zones. 
And it just means that it 

1061
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,640
increases the chance of people 
having a fight anywhere in the 

1062
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:54,920
game. 
Like all all the dead man 

1063
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,320
matters are flipped like like I 
like I said in the video, the 

1064
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,640
warriors Guild like the 
stronghold slay Cape is not 

1065
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,200
right next to a safe tone 
anymore and a lot of the early 

1066
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,640
game stuff is is going to be 
spicy now. 

1067
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,560
So I'm looking forward to it. 
Yeah, I. 

1068
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,720
I'm. 
I'm on your side as a spectator.

1069
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:11,880
I'm on your side. 
Yeah. 

1070
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,840
I don't have. 
To deal with the emotional. 

1071
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,040
Trauma. 
Yeah, like, like, like, 

1072
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,560
obviously. 
Obviously there's a point and 

1073
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,320
this was I, I thought about this
a lot going into Season 1, 

1074
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,360
because in Season 1, I think in 
hindsight you can be like, Oh 

1075
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,800
yeah, All Stars. 
Like it's crazy big. 

1076
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,000
Like obviously everyone's going 
to play loads of hours. 

1077
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,120
Obviously everyone's going to 
commit loads of time to it. 

1078
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:36,200
But like before signing up, it, 
it wasn't really, you know, I, I

1079
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,840
wouldn't, I was worried that 
people like, people might get 

1080
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,120
demotivated and then just quit 
like after three days or like 

1081
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,040
the team just sort of throws in 
the towel a bit. 

1082
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,040
Obviously now that's not really 
something I have to worry about 

1083
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,080
because no one's quitting when 
they're getting like five times 

1084
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,960
the normal viewers on Twitter, 
Charlie, you know what I mean? 

1085
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,320
It's all part of the good. 
That's a good one. 

1086
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,880
I'm I'm glad you give. 
Us the highlight videos because 

1087
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,040
it's an excuse not to stream 
that week because streaming that

1088
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,200
week is awful. 
Like I you know what to say all 

1089
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,160
the if you're not in the All 
Stars, it's like it's that one 

1090
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:09,240
meme of Squidward inside looking
at Patrick and SpongeBob having 

1091
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:09,720
fun. 
True. 

1092
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,240
Yeah, dude. 
My my plan is to go. 

1093
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:14,480
Live right before the servers go
down, so I got off. 

1094
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:19,960
Yeah, you can scoop. 
The host that's actually genius.

1095
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,320
Won't people sleep at all but. 
That's that's OK. 

1096
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,800
Yeah, you and every other. 
Stream, but that's not in it. 

1097
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,480
Yeah, Speaking of. 
Do you have a question T Papa, I

1098
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,600
was going to pull one from the 
the sheet that I really. 

1099
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,080
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I got one. 
I got 1. 

1100
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:41,320
So we look at last year, you 
guys, you're I mean, honestly, 

1101
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,800
in every competition you're in, 
you are the snake. 

1102
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,440
You have, you know these ideas 
and you do execute them pretty 

1103
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:52,120
well and you're you know, you've
won some things Guilder games, 

1104
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,760
dead man. 
When we look at these captains, 

1105
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,400
we have Dino West Ham framed 
Reese perp and Otablock. 

1106
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,520
We don't have the teams yet, 
right? 

1107
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,320
The draft has not happened at 
the time of recording this. 

1108
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:08,200
When you look at these captains,
who do you think is the next? 

1109
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:09,360
Solo mission like. 
Who? 

1110
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,600
Who's going to be this captain? 
That next solo mission? 

1111
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,840
You know who is the next. 
One when I think about it, I'll 

1112
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,080
I'll share what I think. 1st 
and. 

1113
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,760
Then I I want to hear what you 
say, obviously, I think. 

1114
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,600
I I look at. 
Man really sorry framed recent 

1115
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,880
perp but I look at ODA block, 
West Ham and Dino. 

1116
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:31,720
It's going to depend a lot on 
the. 

1117
00:54:31,720 --> 00:54:35,840
Draft with who ODA Block takes 
'cause he's pick, he's taking 

1118
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,240
pick six and seven. 
He's on the back end, but I feel

1119
00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:41,520
like, you know, he's dastardly 
enough that he could be the 

1120
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,320
snake. 
And then we know Dino is first 

1121
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,760
pick and he's going to have 
Bodie on his team and like he's 

1122
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,760
already set. 
Like he said, he's taking Bodie.

1123
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,800
He just yeah, yeah, yeah, he's 
like he's he's put out there. 

1124
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,240
Dino's taking Bodie. 
So you have Dino and Bodie on 

1125
00:54:56,240 --> 00:54:59,280
the same team. 
That's who I think is 

1126
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,560
terrifying. 
Although it's a snake draft. 

1127
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,120
Ha ha, that's pretty funny. 
So they don't get it till they 

1128
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:08,000
don't get a pick again. 
Till Dino gets picked one in 12 

1129
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,040
and then West. 
Ham. 

1130
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,600
West Ham is very. 
Conniving. 

1131
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,320
So I just I got tossed West Ham 
in there. 

1132
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,800
I don't know enough about Reese.
I don't see framed in perv for 

1133
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,800
being the snake. 
Anyways, that was all my 

1134
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,080
thoughts that I've gathered 
about these captains, but by the

1135
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:26,920
by the snake. 
Do you, are you talking about 

1136
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,840
who do I think has the the 
biggest odds as a captain or 

1137
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,800
like, yeah, yeah, like who? 
Who's, like, really thinking it?

1138
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,680
Yeah, who's thinking it like? 
You are because you gotta, you 

1139
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,920
know, you have to. 
The planning needs to be 

1140
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,160
mischievous. 
I think the planning can't. 

1141
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,880
It can't be brute. 
It's gotta have some finesse. 

1142
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,160
I think the. 
Captains ODA will just do 

1143
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:54,480
whatever the guy the plans his 
route like tells him to he'll 

1144
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,240
just rock up the day before and 
read the plan. 

1145
00:55:56,240 --> 00:55:59,320
I know that guy like once he 
gets off stream where he just 

1146
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,400
goes, he hangs out with his 
family, which is fair enough. 

1147
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,840
He's not the one to be like 
sweating on the test worlds. 

1148
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:09,400
But like I think that the main 
people that like will cook some 

1149
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:16,000
sort of like sea engineer pep, I
think Reese, those types evscape

1150
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:20,080
foe and I mean we've got access 
to the test worlds now and I 

1151
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,480
have access to the camera tool 
so I can spy on people and see 

1152
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,680
what they're doing. 
And it's all the all these sorts

1153
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,640
are on like they've had quite a 
lot of time to already think 

1154
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:34,480
about like what they would do. 
But I think I think I think it 

1155
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,080
would have been C engineer was 
like the architect of like them 

1156
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,880
locking down the temple of Ikov 
with a limp work roots last 

1157
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,880
time. 
He he's got that cheeky PP 

1158
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,880
hardcore. 
I am on early, early game 

1159
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,080
getting kills and stuff. 
I think Pharaoh, yeah. 

1160
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:52,120
Pharaoh Reese, those guys get a 
brain. 

1161
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,080
He's got he's. 
Got a big brain on him. 

1162
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,200
Thing he's had C engineer 5. 
Times. 

1163
00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,680
So C engineer is a good pick 
then? 

1164
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,680
Yeah, but The thing is though, 
we're see engineers like if 

1165
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,640
you've seen that clip of him 
trying to tell he block 

1166
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,960
somebody, like, well, the law is
where he missed clicks like 400 

1167
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,040
times. 
I don't know if I could ever 

1168
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,240
draft him after that. 
Bro. 

1169
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:15,760
What's that going to be like on 
stage? 

1170
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:23,720
But yeah, I think I think if the
captains, I think probably Odor 

1171
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:28,080
and Reese will want to win the 
most, I would say because Dino 

1172
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,680
and West Ham have already won, 
right. 

1173
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,520
I know Reese is like super 
competitive sweat Lord kind of 

1174
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,520
guy. 
And like I think Odo just really

1175
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,480
wants to win, like, because like
I think he'll have the most fans

1176
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:43,000
in the audience and that I may 
be slightly biased that I I kind

1177
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,200
of would want to see, you know, 
to win because I think the crowd

1178
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,040
would go crazy or like 80s would
want. 

1179
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,160
Yeah. 
So but like Reese is like my 

1180
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,720
best mate from Runescapes. 
Like I would kind of want him to

1181
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,440
win as well. 
I like all the captains. 

1182
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,560
So I don't really have like, I 
don't play favourites like that.

1183
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,920
Like yeah, very political 
answer. 

1184
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,040
OK well in in that same vein 
there was a viewer submitted 

1185
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:09,360
question that I really liked and
I want your thoughts on how much

1186
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:13,760
of winning Dead Man All Stars is
actual PvP skill and how much is

1187
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:18,560
leadership, delegation, scouting
and keeping egos under control 

1188
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,600
Keeping egos. 
I I think so. 

1189
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,400
There's been season 2 seasons, 
right? 

1190
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:29,280
And both seasons, the best team 
in multi, the team that 

1191
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,280
everyone's scared of in multi 
has won because they can just 

1192
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,080
run around the breach doing what
they want. 

1193
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:35,720
Like they're the ones that 
initiate the fights, they're the

1194
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,200
ones that people scared to take 
on. 

1195
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:42,080
The Nuggets had the control most
of season 1 than it was last 

1196
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,080
time. 
I think people really 

1197
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,160
underestimate that element of 
it, especially with missions 

1198
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:49,760
this year as well. 
I see. 

1199
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,040
I think people get way too 
focused on the one V1 ability at

1200
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,400
the end. 
I think that time this year that

1201
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,080
won't matter anywhere near as 
much as the previous two, 

1202
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,080
especially being on stage, you 
know, even things like, you 

1203
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:02,920
know, you'll be extremely 
nervous. 

1204
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,920
You you're going to be on a 
different chair, different desk 

1205
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:07,880
height, like you know, you're on
a different PC. 

1206
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,520
Like you're never going to play 
your best. 

1207
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,560
Like he's like whenever I've 
been to a play test, like I feel

1208
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,400
like I'm a bit shit because like
I've got my keyboard and mouse. 

1209
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,440
But like you, you never play at 
your absolute best when you're 

1210
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,800
not on your setup, right? 
It's just unfamiliar environment

1211
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:21,920
for some of these guys. 
That'll be the first time they 

1212
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:27,080
ever go just like a big event, 
like just period. 

1213
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:28,880
Like some of them haven't even 
been to a rune fest or anything 

1214
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,560
like that. 
That's a a daunting experience 

1215
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,840
in itself where like, you know, 
people know you like how many of

1216
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:38,400
them have walked out on stage 
and have more than 20 people 

1217
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,920
like 4000. 
So I think I think it'll come 

1218
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,000
down a lot to how people perform
on stage. 

1219
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,600
And I just don't really think 
there's a way to gauge gauge 

1220
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,440
that personally, other than 
maybe some of them have a bit 

1221
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,360
more experience than others. 
So some the people that I've 

1222
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,000
been around forever, they've 
done a lot of stuff. 

1223
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:59,680
So like MMORPG he's played on 
stage look more than anyone else

1224
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,440
because he used to be in all 
those old dead man's. 

1225
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,000
I think he'd be pretty like he 
he'll get he'll get picked low, 

1226
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,960
but I think he could get give 
gig of value because I think he 

1227
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:12,280
he'll be more familiar with the 
experience booty people like 

1228
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:13,120
that. 
I think they are. 

1229
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,240
They are going to be going above
where. 

1230
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,040
But what isn't like giving more 
value than you would have got 

1231
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,400
out of them in previous seasons?
Like because you've got you've 

1232
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,080
got, I don't know. 
It's just it's very it's a very 

1233
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,680
strange and like potentially 
overwhelming experience for 

1234
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,080
these guys to even go to a venue
where everyone knows who they 

1235
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:31,240
are. 
And that might be the first time

1236
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,920
they've had that like a real, I 
feel like it's a little bit 

1237
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,640
overwhelming at Rune Fest when 
like, you know, like I was like,

1238
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,400
oh, you're solo. 
Like like it's great. 

1239
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,160
It's don't get back. 
It's great and it's lovely to 

1240
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,720
see everybody, but like you 
don't experience that in your 

1241
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:47,600
everyday life. 
So like if, if they're having 

1242
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,200
that on the day that they need 
to turn up and compete and 

1243
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,920
everything like that, that, 
that, that their mind might be a

1244
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,080
bit all over the place. 
I don't know. 

1245
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,760
Especially if there's a, there's
a camera like zooming in on 

1246
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:00,520
their hands and shit. 
Like we're going to see some 

1247
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:01,640
earthquakes. 
We're going to see some 

1248
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,680
earthquakes on stage for sure. 
Oh, there's going to be some jab

1249
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:05,640
hands. 
Do you? 

1250
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:06,760
Who do you? 
Think's going to be. 

1251
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:08,320
That's what that's why I'm not 
playing for. 

1252
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:12,200
Because who do you think it's 
going to handle? 

1253
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,720
That well and who's going to 
who's going to crumble? 

1254
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,040
Do you have any predictions I. 
I? 

1255
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,960
Think yeah, I think I think I 
think people like boutique 

1256
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,280
people have done lots of stage 
work and like, like the guys 

1257
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,040
have been to reinvest at times 
and I think that they're the 

1258
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:30,360
best place, place to handle it. 
And there's some evidence in the

1259
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,400
past from people who have like 
done decently at these things. 

1260
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,640
Like Rakesie was pretty good in 
the PP All Stars. 

1261
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:41,040
I know it's like years and years
ago, but like who will handle it

1262
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,080
badly? 
I know Skiddler says that he's 

1263
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:49,840
like a turbo shaker, but he did 
really well on the finale last 

1264
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:51,200
time. 
So maybe maybe not so much 

1265
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,160
anymore. 
I am so I know, I know some of 

1266
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,480
them because we were talking, we
were a meal last night and some 

1267
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,960
of them were talking about it 
because I'm like known, known 

1268
01:01:59,960 --> 01:02:01,640
for shaking and stuff and it's 
from adrenaline. 

1269
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,040
It's like for some reason it 
just goes to my hands. 

1270
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,800
Like it's not like a being 
scared or nervous necessarily. 

1271
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,760
It's like sometimes even like 
excitement in a way. 

1272
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,800
Like when I used to watch like 
poker and stuff and like like 

1273
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,320
read about it. 
It's like sometimes when people 

1274
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,520
get a really good hand and they 
know they're going to win money 

1275
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,360
or they know they're going to 
get a big stack in a tournament,

1276
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,880
they don't, they'd be more 
likely to like shake on the way 

1277
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,440
in because they've got the 
adrenaline going. 

1278
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,600
And it's the same thing with 
performers and like music 

1279
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,760
concerts, like if you're in an 
orchestra, like people can be 

1280
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,160
like shaking because like 
they've got, they've got the 

1281
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:33,920
adrenaline and people take, 
what's it? 

1282
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:38,160
Propranolol is like a anxiety 
medication thing. 

1283
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,440
So, so I, I, I actually got, I 
actually got some for the 

1284
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,680
doctor, but because people, 
people use it for public 

1285
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:44,880
speaking as well, I'm pretty 
sure. 

1286
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,440
So I got I got some for the 
doctor and I took it for all the

1287
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:54,040
games. 
Oh my gosh, you're you were 

1288
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,040
talking about these, bro? 
Yeah, we were talking about 

1289
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,240
toasting. 
We were talking about that 

1290
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,520
yesterday and we were just 
laughing like, are we going to 

1291
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:07,880
get everyone to piss and a cunt 
before before they but like, I I

1292
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,080
think I think some people might,
might, might, might take some 

1293
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,480
stuff like that, but I don't 
know how how good that actually 

1294
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,120
would be. 
I, I, I, I, I, I don't know. 

1295
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,840
I, I, I don't know until you're 
in that moment. 

1296
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:19,920
I just don't think you can 
really tell. 

1297
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,640
I'm bringing a bag of. 
Adderall and Xanax to sell to 

1298
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,600
the competitors. 
I'm going to get skill specs. 

1299
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,120
Skill specs is probably just 
going to be high as a kite, bro.

1300
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:31,920
He's going to be performing at 
his usual best. 

1301
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,360
He's going to be chilling. 
It is legal in Chicago. 

1302
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,160
Skillly so you're. 
Yeah, exactly. 

1303
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:41,640
Good luck. 
We had Evie on and he. 

1304
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,440
Was talking about how so many of
his bits are planned and I'm 

1305
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,360
just thinking dude when you guys
are on. 

1306
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,000
Stage you could. 
Have a really good planned bit 

1307
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:51,600
where you like? 
Cut to Odin and his feet are 

1308
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:57,480
kicking under the desk. 
I I feel like Evie is the type 

1309
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,240
of guy to have some crazy clip 
phone ready for like the live 

1310
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:01,760
event. 
Like I don't know, maybe try 

1311
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:05,080
some crowd surf or something. 
I don't remember each of us on 

1312
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:08,240
the Patreon or off. 
Recording, But he told us a lot 

1313
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,600
of the bits he has planned. 
There's he's got a lot. 

1314
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:11,880
I'm looking for it. 
Very spotless. 

1315
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:12,400
Very. 
Spotless. 

1316
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,360
I'm looking forward to it. 
Yeah, it's going to be good. 

1317
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:22,600
OK, a slight turn. 
Not really, but Factions Banger 

1318
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:23,880
loved it. 
That was fun. 

1319
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:27,480
That was fun. 
So my one thought. 

1320
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,400
Is are, are we going to do 
factions again? 

1321
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,040
OK, let's just hold on. 
Hypothetically, we're doing 

1322
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:33,560
factions again. 
What about? 

1323
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:34,520
What about? 
I'd be. 

1324
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:35,760
I'd be dancing with that again, 
yeah. 

1325
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:40,160
What about factions into? 
Dead man mode instead of what 

1326
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,600
was that, the Summit? 
I feel like factions into dead 

1327
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,120
man mode would be like, that's 
so high. 

1328
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,160
That's like the real dead man 
servers go live, everyone's 

1329
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,880
watching, everyone's getting 
excited, boom, dead man mode. 

1330
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,640
Was that ever brought up? 
Or at all with factions. 

1331
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:57,400
A lot, a lot of the time 
pitching these. 

1332
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,280
Events, it's like if Jack's 
going to put budget and like a 

1333
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,560
bit of dev resource and whatever
towards it, like so they want to

1334
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,120
get the maximum they can out 
there. 

1335
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,280
So like last last time it was 
like it was the perfect storm 

1336
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,840
because the dead man was coming 
out the week after or something 

1337
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:15,160
and they had the winter summit. 
So it's like, hey, why not get a

1338
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:18,640
ton of viewers on Twitch and 
then so many like more people 

1339
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,200
watch that winter summit than 
any of the other ones by a lot, 

1340
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,360
like a lot, a lot. 
I think they had 50K on the main

1341
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,520
channel and then they have all 
the streamers live as well, 

1342
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,440
which is like that's exactly 
what they want. 

1343
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:33,200
They want people watching their 
stuff to say that that was 

1344
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,560
really good. 
I think The thing is with The 

1345
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:40,080
thing is with the dead man's, 
it's like if it was if it was to

1346
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,360
go straight into a dead man, I 
don't know if I'll piss off some

1347
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:46,240
of the creators because like 
they all of a sudden the the 

1348
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:50,160
hour 0 of the dead man is like, 
you know, they've already been 

1349
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,640
live for five hours or whatever.
I'm like the Nah, they're fine. 

1350
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,120
Bro, it's time to lock in. 
They're creators, dude. 

1351
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:58,520
Yeah. 
Yeah, Yeah, I think it could be.

1352
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:02,040
I think it could be fine. 
And I mean, Factions was 

1353
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,040
essentially a marketing thing 
for Dead Man because like 

1354
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,520
everyone got to see the sigils. 
They sort of got an idea of like

1355
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:08,200
the ropes. 
Like as you're watching 

1356
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:09,800
Factions, you're getting 
educated about Dead Man. 

1357
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,440
Like you understand that, like 
you use the shop for sigils, all

1358
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,240
that sort of stuff. 
And that's sort of what I was 

1359
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,360
saying to Jackets when I was 
telling them about that idea. 

1360
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:22,000
It's like it's just the perfect 
storm to launch, launch these 

1361
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:23,240
things. 
I mean, the original All Stars 

1362
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,120
as well, the original All Stars 
in the pitch deck. 

1363
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:29,360
It's like, yeah, the best thing 
to do after this would be this 

1364
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,520
the summer dead man that was 
coming up that year in 2024. 

1365
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:34,000
I was like, you can use this to 
hype that up. 

1366
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,880
And yeah, it's, it's, it's 
always a thing when doing 

1367
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:38,920
events. 
I think you have to think about 

1368
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,560
what it's connecting to. 
And well, obviously All Stars 

1369
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,800
now it's like big enough that 
it's almost like a stat. 

1370
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,720
It's a standalone thing, which 
is kind of crazy. 

1371
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,120
Like when they, when they asked 
me, they're like, oh, do you, do

1372
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:50,920
you want to come on to the 
winter Summit and like do a 

1373
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,040
little segment of the All Stars?
I'll be like, sure. 

1374
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:58,040
It's almost like they're using 
that as like a bit of content in

1375
01:06:58,040 --> 01:06:59,640
the timeline. 
I know it's not a main game, a 

1376
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:02,560
main game up there or anything, 
but it sort of fills out the 

1377
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,120
calendar of like exciting things
going on. 

1378
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,120
And also I want to dispel the 
myth of people being like, why 

1379
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,080
are they wasting so much time 
with Devon All Stars? 

1380
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:11,840
It's really not that much dev 
time. 

1381
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,640
Like every single request is 
like super tailored to make it 

1382
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,480
like as low dev time as 
possible. 

1383
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,720
It's like manked doing like a 
week's worth of dev stuff and 

1384
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:23,880
like dies on. 
I think that's it. 

1385
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,200
Like they've got like tons of 
developers, but there's never 

1386
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,000
any art resource or anything 
like that. 

1387
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:29,880
It's like it's pushing back. 
It's a pretty. 

1388
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,600
Wrath ma by. 
A week, man yeah, exactly, bro, 

1389
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:43,040
that's a good thing. 
I was actually I was actually a 

1390
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:49,360
wrath more fan so so yeah, but 
but yeah, no, it's I've lost my 

1391
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,440
train of thought, but yeah, it's
always something that came 

1392
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,200
before and I I would do a 
factions again. 

1393
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,360
I think it was, I think it's way
more successful than we thought 

1394
01:07:56,360 --> 01:08:01,160
it was going to be, But the the 
faction stream peaked like 40 

1395
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:03,240
something K viewers, which is 
insane. 

1396
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:07,840
And it was I think that was 
actually the most watched old 

1397
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,000
School Runescape event, like the
most watched live Old School 

1398
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,960
Runescape event with like the 
the amount of viewers on the old

1399
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,600
school's Twitch category plus 
Kik at any one time. 

1400
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:16,960
I don't think it's actually been
higher. 

1401
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,240
I don't think the All Stars 
finales peaked more than that 

1402
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,439
purely because of the amount of 
streams that were live. 

1403
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,160
Yeah. 
Yeah, it was. 

1404
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:28,160
It was kind of insane. 
And I think, I think as well 

1405
01:08:28,399 --> 01:08:30,520
factions will come back because 
some of the Jay mods had a great

1406
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,560
time playing it. 
Like when we were doing the 

1407
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,640
casting, Sweet, Sweet came down 
from upstairs. 

1408
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:39,359
He's like, that was so fun. 
But I was like, Oh yeah, another

1409
01:08:39,359 --> 01:08:43,160
one, let's go so I can lock them
in. 

1410
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,680
I had a blast. 
Yeah, and. 

1411
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,680
It's the other thing as well. 
It's like the hardest thing 

1412
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:53,479
about Gilmore games All Stars is
casting people. 

1413
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:56,920
It's like I can't you can't 
invite everybody. 

1414
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,120
It's like a difficult thing. 
And like factions was a great 

1415
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,520
way to have so many more people 
involved. 

1416
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,240
I mean, obviously there's always
got to be a cut off, right? 

1417
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:06,479
You can't go on like 
indefinitely. 

1418
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,479
Like I I got blocked out of D 
Ming people because disco 

1419
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:11,920
thought I was a but I was 
messaging so many people for the

1420
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:16,840
first for the first time. 
But yeah, I always knew that I 

1421
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,880
wanted to put on some mass 
participation thing and factions

1422
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,640
really, really was good. 
And yeah, I've got ideas for a 

1423
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,399
second one, so I think they'd 
want to do it again. 

1424
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:28,600
Yeah, that was like the perfect.
Event. 

1425
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,120
It was fun, it was short, 
everybody got to participate. 

1426
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:34,720
I had a good time. 
Could even be a thing. 

1427
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:36,720
At Greenfest, you know how they 
have like 100 PCs? 

1428
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:40,160
If everyone just jumps on those 
PCs, potentially, I don't know. 

1429
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:41,800
I don't know how that would work
logistically. 

1430
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:44,840
I remember, I remember when I 
was. 

1431
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:46,439
Testing sailing when I was. 
Testing. 

1432
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:47,800
Sailing. 
I drove past you. 

1433
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:51,399
Do you remember that? 
Yeah, yeah, I I love, I love 

1434
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,520
Crowder, but but like the thing,
The thing is if if it was in 

1435
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:58,440
person, would you get people 
like going just getting up and 

1436
01:09:58,440 --> 01:09:59,640
going to fuck with somebody 
else? 

1437
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,280
I would be doing. 
That so yes like. 

1438
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,000
I don't know. 
I'm a talking tasty and tea. 

1439
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:08,920
Papa's on my team. 
He could just go into the holes 

1440
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,480
in his arms. 
Yeah, you know, someone attacks.

1441
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,840
Me, I'm going to get up so much.
Fucking content from that we go 

1442
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,800
tickle them. 
They're not going. 

1443
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:23,320
To kill me, dude, yeah, let's 
push potential for loads of 

1444
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,880
stuff. 
I've got, I've got, I've got 

1445
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:29,800
like 3 other than new events 
that like I'm thinking about 

1446
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:33,120
doing as well, but it's just not
deciding the, the best one out 

1447
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,680
of those. 
And I'm thinking it through. 

1448
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,440
But yeah, like let, I think, I 
think the more you do this, the 

1449
01:10:38,440 --> 01:10:41,160
more ideas you start having 
because there's, there's lots of

1450
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,280
stuff that doesn't fit in step 
on All Stars that would fit into

1451
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:46,840
a more like PVM centric event, 
for example. 

1452
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,720
So when when it came to the. 
Missions was did you, did you 

1453
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,480
have this missions idea 
previously or? 

1454
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:56,920
Now you can do it. 
You're doing. 

1455
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,920
It or is this is this something 
you came up with between season 

1456
01:10:59,920 --> 01:11:03,240
2 and three between season? 
Two and three, but like the the 

1457
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:08,120
the concept of having something 
be temporarily really rewarding 

1458
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:09,600
as a hotspot. 
It's it's not like a new 

1459
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,400
concept, right? 
It's like in annihilation they 

1460
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,560
had the dead man chests, which 
is like kind of similar. 

1461
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:15,680
Is it like everyone gets to the 
chest to get a reward? 

1462
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:20,320
And they've had that sort of 
concept in Dead Man's going back

1463
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,880
seasons and seasons. 
And on some of the really old 

1464
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,800
ones, like on certain weeks, 
content was double drops, like 

1465
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:28,400
double drops from God wars in a 
week. 

1466
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:29,560
And then it was double drops and
barrows. 

1467
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:31,920
There's whatever else. 
So there's there's all these 

1468
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,200
sort of like hotspot elementary 
type things. 

1469
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,120
Like it's just like iterating on
that. 

1470
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,520
And then, like I said, I took 
inspiration from the video I 

1471
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,640
watched in 2008. 
Thought was cool. 

1472
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:47,240
Yeah. 
Well. 

1473
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,400
I think it's about time we 
transition over to the the 

1474
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,600
Patreon podcast. 
I've got a few questions that 

1475
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:57,000
are a little too saucy to ask 
you on the YouTube cast but too.

1476
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,120
Saucy. 
Oh my God, we will be talking 

1477
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,080
about. 
Solo Mission Snake on the 

1478
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,160
podcast. 
So everybody be sure to tune in 

1479
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:06,680
solo. 
Thank you for coming on, dude. 

1480
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:08,920
We appreciate that. 
Do you have any final parting 

1481
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,360
words for the viewers? 
You guys should. 

1482
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,880
Absolutely. 
Subscribe to the Patreon. 

1483
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:19,720
OK, one more part in Word. 
I'll watch the Spectator stream 

1484
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:21,560
live on Kik because it's going 
to be such a good stream. 

1485
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,320
Like me and I live on Kik. 
Whoa. 

1486
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,240
We're going to talk about that, 
buddy. 

1487
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:31,240
That's going on the Patreon. 
Castle's good. 

1488
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:32,400
Yeah. 
All right. 

1489
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,160
Thank you fellas for listening. 
We're going to head over there. 

1490
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,960
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1491
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,840
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1492
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,120
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1493
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:44,920
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1494
01:12:45,480 --> 01:12:46,960
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