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So, the I can't stop thinking 
about the seed oil doctor. 

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Can't stop thinking about it. 
Well, sum it up her. 

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What happened? 
Where to start. 

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So there's a, there's an account
and I mean, I guess for us like 

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it's kind of one of those things
where we weren't like 

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necessarily talking about any 
one person. 

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We're talking about seed oils 
and stuff. 

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Like it's kind of we're just 
talking about like the reacting 

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to a meme that you see and 
basing an entire identity around

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it. 
It using it as a catch-all thing

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for everything. 
Bad in the world is like is 

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always somebody trying to sell 
you something on the other side 

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of that, right? 
Yeah, I will say we we have, we 

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have some wild, we have some 
like kind of non-conventional 

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Health takes on here, but it 
never comes with like, a product

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that we sell. 
Do you know what I mean? 

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Like, that's not a yeah, and I 
buy my yeah, Alex Jones is 

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coming. 
It's not, yeah, that is coming. 

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But nonetheless, the seed oil 
disrespect her. 

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Out and I always got Vibes, 
like, anytime. 

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I see like a health account and 
then it's got like an OP who, 

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you know, frog thing go. 
I'm always like, all right, you 

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know, what's okay, like, 
probably some funny shit. 

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But like when it comes down to, 
like the nitty-gritty, I bet 

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this is, this is going to be, 
you know, something this is 

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going to be somebody hiding 
something that you know, is 

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compromising to what they're 
trying to sell me. 

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So sure enough, that's what 
happened. 

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So, the seed oil disrespect, 
your guy was going at these 

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other guys. 
They're my think there were some

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raw milk guys, which is a very, 
very refuel part of whatever 

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you're all wrong. 
They will. 

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I mean, that's the reason we 
need to be armed. 

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The raw milk. 
They'll come back to the six. 

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We be in the mix with that rare 
candy. 

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Paint job on our way. 
I need food for the kids money 

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for the rent. 
Fuck. 

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I like down baby. 
I can't do that shit. 

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Now. 
I'll never go home cause I'm 

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fucking broke. 
Either way. 

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I not a policing, only me alone 
on a Plane by the physically, 

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Rockne crypto told me. 
I should bring the Glock with 

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me. 
So I packed up my And I'm 

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sliding slide because we might 
get caught up in a riot, middle 

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finger drunk middle finger 
biting. 

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Fuck. 
I left Buckle right as you ride.

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Real love to see those rocket 
can do politics, baby. 

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We just talk for the birds to 
the breaks. 

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We be in the mix with a rare 
candy. 

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Paint job on away from you it. 
And I think seed, oil guy 

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definitely had a heat check 
moment when he was going at 

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those people, because all of a 
sudden all this guy's Dirty 

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Laundry, gets put out in a 
Twitter thread, you know, it's 

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like, you know, if there's a 
thing where it's like seed oil 

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disrespected, cheats on his 
wife, you're like, all right, 

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whatever, you know, I mean that 
hey, what does that have to do 

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with why I follow them, right, 
you know, and stuff. 

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This dude literally had the like
fucking vaccination, picture 

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with the mask on getting the 
Backs and he says, like my kid 

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has autism and guess what we 
still do. 

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I don't know if that was exactly
the term, but like like what he 

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said, but it was used the word 
like, you know, I have a child 

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autism. 
Like these vaccines are like 

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fantastic. 
It's like the most likely to 

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save lives. 
Maxine, save insane. 

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Like the type of thing that some
I've had. 

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It was like, did somebody doctor
that? 

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You know, I mean to, like, make 
his picture look worse or 

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something. 
Nope, and then after that, and, 

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and our guests here, my fitness 
feelings has Has had some some 

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some words about this too. 
He had the classic patented 

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Mass. 
Selfie. 

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Yeah, I mean the classic 
patented mask selfie that that 

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almost is never coupled with a 
good take on the internet almost

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every wow. 
Now it's unforgivable. 

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Really. 
I mean, this is no reason to do 

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it. 
I mean, like, it hides your 

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face. 
Yes. 

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Need to see that defeat itself. 
You know, I mean, it's like 

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wearing a, I don't know. 
Yeah, it just doesn't doesn't 

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make any sense and then also, 
It's like dude. 

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Who do you, who are you kidding 
with this like, you know your 

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audience like esoteric 
right-wing. 

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Raw milk people and they don't 
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It's not seriously. 
It's retarded. 

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I can't believe he did that. 
It really are genuinely. 

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I've I could never, I still 
don't get it. 

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That's all I heard. 
Is that once I heard it was a 

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doctor. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, that's a tell-all. 

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And then and then also there was
like, and I can't, I didn't save

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the thread. 
But there was a thing like that 

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they were he was partnering with
this company. 

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You know. 
What? 

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Yeah, this is where it gets 
crazy. 

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This is where it gets. 
This is where my, what I was 

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babbling about at the beginning 
of this makes sense is, you 

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know, somebody whenever somebody
can isolate the all the ills of 

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society and all the wrongs of 
society, whether it's, you know,

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like I mean the seed oil stuff 
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I think if kids are gay now 
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that's that stuff. 
Like it goes that far. 

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The tentacles are reaching that 
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So when I say the things, you 
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They always want to offer you a 
substitute that's made by some, 

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you know, startup or something. 
And I'm trying to find it right 

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now. 
The it's called 0 acres farms, 

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which it's a yeah, it's just a 
disgusting name. 

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Really? 
I mean, just say it's nice, like

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it's not. 
I mean, yeah, it's not a farm. 

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Like I hate that but yes. 
Yeah, that sounds like a Gates 

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owned thing. 
It does that sound sounds like a

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gate something. 
But yeah, it's, this is like a 

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seed oil. 
Alternate side. 

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Remember, like, what was it? 
What was this is fermenting. 

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I think they're doing like, 
bioengineered fermented through 

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like yeast or bacteria, to 
produce fatty acids, that 

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produce oil, that is not seed 
oil. 

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So, if your stuff it's like 
getting the cooking oil from 

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bacterial sludge, which, again, 
I was like, what? 

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How are you going to sell this 
to your audience? 

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Like it's like like I'm not a 
keto guy but like but like, you 

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know guys are just yeah, it's 
like you guys are just all like,

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you know, they're all like 
gimmicky and butter and shit, 

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which I respect way more than 
some dumbass biotech project. 

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What's the Bible? 
Text in there? 

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I'm out. 
I'm like, all right. 

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Yeah. 
No, it's like. 

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Come on. 
This is no, you know, I've never

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it's like the 0a occur. 
It's crazy. 

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I never trust. 
Yeah. 

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I just can't think about dogs 
are the name zero acre because I

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know where you're going with. 
That is like, yeah. 

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It's like you won't even notice 
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Zero Acres, 19 knows me here and
then ignite in your dish man. 

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Don't fear doing the whole 
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Like, oh, well, you know, poor 
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inflammatory fats. 
So we and their whole like like,

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this is somehow going to take 
off and all the worlds, like all

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the, all the seed oil 
production, economies are going 

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to switch to this, you know, 
like these go. 

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Yeah, 0 Acres, let's that sounds
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It's like, it's so ludicrous. 
It's such a guy. 

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Fish a cash grab. 
Everyone's gonna win that 10 

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acres. 
Gets on the Shelf of every 

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store. 
And fish Stickley, gets rid of 

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all the Missoula products on the
Shelf, you know, burning 

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Fahrenheit, 451 style hormones. 
I'm thinking with flamethrowers 

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and stuff. 
When that happens. 

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Everyone will look at the sky at
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you don't know what it is. 
Very like twin peaks' you know, 

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like looking at the sky and then
they'll all just become more 

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masculine stronger. 
Yep. 

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Yep. 
That's right. 451 smoke point. 

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It is what it is. 
Yeah, you should be able to 

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smell like a meme right away. 
You know what I mean? 

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Like, even like certain things 
that like smell a meme diet and 

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you can always tell when you're 
arguing with somebody who's just

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like on a meme diet. 
Well, you're like what he was 

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saying. 
The means that when even the 

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good like they weren't even good
memes that this guy was pumping 

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out, know he was like, it was 
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Not that funny. 
And I would always see like, 

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yeah. 
Wasn't of your you know, the 

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people you follow fucking, you 
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See like I would always see that
shit. 

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Yeah, like yeah. 
Okay. 

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Yeah, but I just don't really 
get how he got that many 

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followers because of Any, that's
the thing. 

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Is this guy, the raw milk guy 
dug in and was like showing that

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he was, he was linked with 
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like their accounts or some 
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Yeah, but I mean he was like, he
was never LinkedIn like there 

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were the first friends, right? 
You know what I mean? 

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The first person, you follow her
whatever. 

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So that's what I was like, weird
and bad about it is that it was 

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clearly like a knob, you know, 
from top to bottom. 

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They see ya. 
Like I don't even care if 

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someone's a grifting, if 
someone's Griffin only like, I 

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don't even care. 
Like, I'll be right back. 

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Yeah, but hey, it's so 
ridiculous. 

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That would be like, if my 
account turned out to be like a 

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shill off for one of those weird
Trevor Seasons, like, don't, 

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it's not a mask. 
It's like a weird like plastic 

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like do Like how did your face, 
you know what I'm really against

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masking but I just want you to 
buy one of this weird like head 

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thing. 
So it's such a betrayal. 

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The, the ethos. 
I mean, it's really seed oils to

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me. 
I mean, I actually I'm probably 

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one of the very few people who 
have actually I don't consume 

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them at all like my girlfriend. 
I would make every everything 

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from scratch basically respect. 
But yeah, it's like an it's in 

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nutritional scapegoat, you know,
I mean, it's just like, You 

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know, yeah, they're bad. 
But that's not really the 

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problem. 
The problem is, I'm just like 

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one thing, right? 
That if you just eliminate that,

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then you can fix it all of your 
health some Before. 

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He'll work. 
You just summed up everything. 

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We've been talking about the 
last mission statement. 

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Yeah, and I just wanted to pause
it real fast. 

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You were talking about being a 
child. 

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Do you want to be official like 
we're not recording right now. 

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What do you want to be a show 
for us? 

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Like can we turn around? 
And yeah. 

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Okay, cool. 
Yeah. 

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I'm thinking like some similar 
product. 

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Anyways, we're recording again. 
The anyways, yeah, where were 

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we? 
Yeah, see, that's just so funny.

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Guess what? 
Like you said that you're like, 

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I don't cook with seed oil like 
that. 

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I never knew that about you and 
that's cool. 

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That's a fun fact. 
You should like talk about once 

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you talk to somebody for a while
and then you bring that out. 

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This guy's like hey nice to meet
you. 

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I don't I don't you see Doyle's.
All right, you know. 

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Like that's like they fall into 
the fall into like the vegan. 

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The guys like that, who run the 
accounts they fall into, like, 

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the vegan thing that people use 
where they're like, hey, you 

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ever met a vegan. 
Don't worry, they'll tell you, 

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you know, the first and they me 
and it's like that. 

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Yeah, the seed oil be more like 
the fucking like, the, you know,

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it's like I like when that's 
just a fun thing. 

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I find out about say, hey, by 
the way, I don't need any of 

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that shit, like, you know, it's,
yeah, you know, it's like, it's 

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just funny when it's just like 
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can always tell there's some 
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So I just always thought that 
was hilarious. 

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And, and yeah, Then he was 
always like I had to get it's 

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for the hospital. 
You know, I mean, it's a good 

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thing. 
You didn't have to make the 

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post. 
No, and yes, God and he put it 

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in black and white like, I mean,
I'm sorry, dude, but come on 

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Jesus. 
He tried to set some Sarah 

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Mclaughlin music to it, but it 
wasn't a technology wasn't man. 

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I'm like, I like not trying to 
hate on any dude or anything, 

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but I man. 
After a while after 15 minutes, 

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no, I mean, like, I mean, like a
dude, as in like a like a 

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masculine sense, like your 
poetry more than like a few. 

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If you're posting more than a 
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year, like it's just like what 
the fuck's your Nota? 

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I don't know. 
Like three, it's like that. 

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Yeah, I don't, you know what? 
I mean? 

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I don't know, man. 
It's just like, so I go. 

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No, I do. 
It's just weird. 

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Like, all this internet should 
always contact creating shit you

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especially like the You know, 
like whether it's the YouTube or

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The Tick-Tock or whatever, where
you see, people living their 

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lives and, you know, they had to
set up a camera and multiple 

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angles to do it. 
You know, it's like food want, 

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the traveling ads are great on. 
Like you had no fun. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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Exactly. 
We're like the guy like I saw I 

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saw one person doing it at a 
place over here. 

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That's kind of like historical 
or whatever. 

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Oh, you know what it was. 
It was the Winchester Mystery 

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House, dude. 
I'm like, which is the biggest 

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psyop of all times not like is 
one of the worst places in the 

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world like do Evernote and it 
costs like $70. 

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Yeah. 
I know. 

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It's ridiculous. 
Yeah, it's horrible. 

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And and so I saw somebody doing 
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gift shop or something and and 
because we were working a job 

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over by there and this and we 
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she's like, okay, like that was 
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Now, we need to take a bite and 
save a bite for the thumbnail 

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later, like of the food. 
Save a bike to like thumbnail of

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the content like that. 
We're making, I'm just like, oh 

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my God, imagine every meat, 
every meal needing to be like 

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like The analytics on the meal 
that you ate and said well that 

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burger wasn't quite worth. 
You know, we did get 1200 views 

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on the burger, but it was 2850. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, it's rough. 
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So my fitness feelings is back, 
he's back and like I said, I was

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telling you off air that the 
last time you came on and that 

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was our Christmas episode 
number. 

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We like pre-recorded that for 
Christmas. 

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So I don't typically remember 
like who came on when and like 

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when that was but I have vivid. 
Memories of that one I got. 

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I believe I got covid the next 
week. 

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So would you care about yam to 
Kumar dude? 

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Yeah. 
I mean, you know, yeah, I'm 

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vaccinated so I don't know how 
that happened. 

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I I'm like quadruple triple. 
You know, I've been getting all 

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the tickets you weren't. 
Yeah, I'm actually not. 

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But yeah, it was a very festive 
episode was respected. 

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Man. 
People people like that, people 

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liked it. 
And so I don't know if you 

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always give away where you are, 
but you're in the midwest. 

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Chicago. 
Yeah. 

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Okay. 
There you go. 

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That's fine. 
Yeah, that's City. 

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Not, not the best for people who
didn't get a couple Jabs. 

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How has it been? 
How's it been out there? 

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I mean, I have my ways, I guess 
of getting around things. 

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But, you know, dude it kind of 
blows honestly, and it's not 

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even so much. 
We all the restrictions and all 

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that stuff, obviously, terrible,
but the worst thing was just 

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just seeing the way the culture 
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It's like the city basically in 
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just imploded. 
I mean, it was crazy like the 

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downtown Chicago, the crime is 
exactly great. 

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Here and it was sort of held him
sort of held in check by this. 

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you know, very favorable ratio 
like normal commuting, like kind

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of business people who would 
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like keeping the crate that, you
know, you just for enough, like,

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normal business people around, 
it's kind of like limits what 

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can happen, fundamentally, but 
once you, once you got rid of 

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all them, I mean it was just 
nothing but, you know, people 

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shooting each other and weird 
Chicagoland like gang feuds and 

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and then you combine that with 
You know, the lids you're just 

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waiting in saying, I mean, they 
really did. 

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I had been like a year of just 
crazy. 

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I mean, I'm sure was just like, 
in San Francisco. 

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Really, I mean, just people, you
know, just losing their mind 

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over it but it is a little bit 
better now, the math and all 

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that stuff kind of receded. 
So I'm enjoying it and taking it

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for what it is. 
Yeah, run a weird post space 

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right now. 
For all these Metropolis by 

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Metropolis. 
He's you know where? 

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I don't know. 
It's kind of everyone's We're 

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like no one forgot what we just 
went through. 

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What we're all trying to move on
and some people are trying to 

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ignore where they stood on these
issues. 

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You know, yeah, you got people 
being nicer for you. 

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These days. 
I have people being nicer to me.

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You know what I mean? 
Is that happen to you guys? 

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We're like people that were it 
weren't. 

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So yeah, you know, it just talk 
in the store now. 

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Yeah, like that's what I've 
noticed. 

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Like I was I was in like, what 
is it, like, a Target or 

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something like that? 
And I remember like, It was so I

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didn't realize how eerily quiet 
you ever like be somewhere. 

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Where, like just a low like 
humming noises happening, like 

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maybe some construction outside 
or something and then like once 

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it stops you like, I never 
remember anything ever being 

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this quiet, you know, like after
the after that humming stops and

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what, what it's like out here is
you go in the store and like 

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people are like, chatting and 
talking to each other and you're

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like, man, like I don't maybe 
they haven't just like in my 

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head. 
I always thought like, oh, 

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people were saying things in the
store and stuff. 

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It was like, man, know 
everybody's got their head down.

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Like, in this weird like, like 
clinical trial thing like, you 

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know anymore. 
Would you like going through a 

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store? 
Like they have a contest like 

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they're shopping for like a chop
dish or something. 

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It's just, it's just so insane. 
All these like instacart people 

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and like walking around but now 
like, you know, it's people are 

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still fighting going back to 
like regular regular life out 

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here. 
People that got like a custom to

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it, but it has been nice. 
I haven't had to wear a mask 

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anywhere. 
They did the mandate where 

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they're like, you know, only if 
you're vaccinated like you don't

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have to where I'm at. 
I'm just like County Health 

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Care, you know, so right on the 
honor System. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, exactly. 

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Hello to the Trader. 
Joe's out here maskless and you 

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know the fucking and the 
Portland one of the Portland 

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Trader Joe's and it's everyone. 
It's like more people are 

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wearing masks now than before 
and it's correct and we're like 

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what the fuck. 
And then we're all like, you 

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know, when these people go to 
Fred Meyer, they're not wearing 

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masks, you know, and we didn't 
wear them, you know, and it's 

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yeah. 
Yeah, but it was just, it's 

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crate. 
Oakland is insane, man. 

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It's crazy. 
I love the Loyalists. 

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Oh, yeah, anything. 
The royalists out in public like

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that? 
Because they, you know, 

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everybody, you know, the the 
take you see often they like, 

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dude who cares if they're if 
they want to still wear a mask 

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like, who cares? 
I have two problems with that 

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one. 
I need like a month of like a 

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mask ban. 
Like I just need one, because 

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know, I just I need, I need 
fascism my way for like a month.

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I mean, you know, I just, I 
just, yeah, you just know. 

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Hey, June 1st, no problem. 
But until then, you know, Like, 

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I just, I need, I need that. 
And two, they don't think that 

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way they are thinking, like, 
they're like everyone stupid, 

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except me like Homer Simpson 
GIF. 

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And like, they're all looking 
around and they're like, man, if

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I wouldn't have to wear one, if 
everyone would wear one or 

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psyche, they have like this, you
know, you can see that look on 

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their face and that's always 
been fun. 

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And it's like, you know, I go to
some stores and it's messed up. 

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You know, I mean, I still messed
up. 

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I'm like the only one in there 
which still does feel weird 

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because you're you have this 
compulsion to, like, even if you

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You don't want it. 
You're like, oh my God. 

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Am I like, is it gonna be? 
Okay? 

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Like, you know, and and so 
that's it's been, it's been 

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fascinating. 
I keep seeing these this take, 

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it's like we need to keep the 
mask mandates because to make 

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the people not because we need 
it. 

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But just to the people who want 
to keep wearing them feel 

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comfortable, right? 
It's like that. 

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There's that. 
There's even an audience for 

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that article is so despicable. 
I mean, it's just it's like, how

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could you? 
I couldn't live with myself. 

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I thought I'm gonna make like, 
oh, this to face Society. 

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Forever, also destroys as I do, 
because I'm like awkward going 

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into Bed Bath and Beyond or 
whatever with my mask and it 

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just it's it's a really a 
shocking level of like, I don't 

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know, weakness. 
I mean, honestly, on the, on 

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behalf of these people. 
Yeah, exactly. 

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And like, you know, everybody's 
thinking about because I've been

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really disgusted seeing like out
of New York, you know, 

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everybody's seen that Erica. 
Adams video, I'm sure him in the

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oh, yeah, I'm up with that. 
What is going on with that lady 

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next to him? 
I don't know if anybody's seen 

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that video but that lady that 
stance in next time just like 

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what Justice? 
Let's explain that for a second.

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Like I just have a question to 
hit for him about that person. 

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I'm like, what was what was with
that lady dancing? 

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Like she was like was that ASAP 
Rocky show her something was 

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that what I'm saying? 
Yeah. 

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I don't know. 
He look like he was working 

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security there. 
Yeah, you just like can't Vibe 

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at all at this though. 
Like we're yeah, it's like do 

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it. 
I'll say this. 

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Like if you're going to be a 
hypocrite like I need to see you

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live. 
At least Gavin. 

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Newsom went to fucking French 
Laundry laughs. 

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Fuck you, you know, I mean like 
at least at least he got his 

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money's worth like Eric Adams 
went stood around without a 

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mask. 
Like, you know, yeah. 

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I was just, it was just dumb. 
But what about what I sent you 

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today that interview where that,
well, yes, like like hey, why 

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are you still masking Toddlers? 
And he's like, man, New York 

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City is like no other city on 
earth man. 

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It's like wait, what they do 
shit like they do in the other 

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cities. 
It ain't gonna work in New York,

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man. 
Yeah, just like what? 

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And, you know, we're going 
through. 

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Potential Governor change, maybe
we'll see in California and I 

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do. 
Yeah, how much? 

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Yeah. 
Become this on your thoughts on 

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developing thoughts. 
Oh me. 

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Yeah, 100% Yeah, so I didn't 
know much about him, Michael 

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shellenberger. 
That's kind of the hot name now 

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of among the dissidents, like, 
oh my God, he's gonna, he's 

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gonna do it. 
And I you know, I remember sigh 

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and I texting and you know, I to
some people's Delight to some 

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people not Delight, you know, 
the homeless take that was said 

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a couple weeks ago. 
Sounds a little similar to what 

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Michael Schellenberg has been 
saying and so I look deeper into

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Them, I listened to his Rogan 
interview. 

447
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,400
And so how many red flags. 
Did you count the first hour 

448
00:21:21,300 --> 00:21:22,800
lat? 
Now leave lat. 

449
00:21:22,900 --> 00:21:25,600
And well, I want to get to use 
the one that that you, that we 

450
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,100
haven't really spoke on a show 
on the show at all. 

451
00:21:28,100 --> 00:21:32,200
I don't think, but we'll get to 
that, not Michael. 

452
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:38,600
Michael shellenberger is a lip 
tarde, Okay. 

453
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,600
I just want, I just want people 
to know that, like I like you 

454
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,100
vote for him, but I'm not 
telling you to vote for on. 

455
00:21:43,100 --> 00:21:44,200
I'm telling you not to vote for 
him. 

456
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:45,900
Just know you're voting for a 
lip tart. 

457
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,300
I don't think. 
He's as bad as Gavin. 

458
00:21:47,300 --> 00:21:48,400
Newsom. 
I don't think that's. 

459
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,300
Oh my God, Khloe. 
I don't think so at all. 

460
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,800
But that you could, you could 
have a conversation with that 

461
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,300
guy and like, have a reasonably 
good. 

462
00:21:55,300 --> 00:21:57,600
That's the problem is, he's 
swayed by a fucking 

463
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,700
conversation. 
Literally that like, that's what

464
00:21:59,700 --> 00:22:01,100
I hate is. 
He's one of those guys that will

465
00:22:01,100 --> 00:22:03,700
like, oh, I just want to go to 
the marketplace of ideas and 

466
00:22:03,700 --> 00:22:05,500
talk to the smartest Society W 
guys. 

467
00:22:05,500 --> 00:22:07,800
And they'll, I guess what, 
sometimes that guy's Bill Gates,

468
00:22:07,900 --> 00:22:09,600
you know, I mean, and he's just 
like, we're going to do this. 

469
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,500
He's like just talk to Bill 
great talk. 

470
00:22:12,500 --> 00:22:14,300
Like, he's like one of those 
guys like, he's like, I'm 

471
00:22:14,300 --> 00:22:16,300
thinking that we go with the 
paperless. 

472
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:23,000
The system. 
And, you know, I mean, I used to

473
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:27,300
think that stuff is crazy. 
But like, he's like works for 

474
00:22:27,300 --> 00:22:30,200
George Soros for a while and 
like you're already in this, you

475
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,000
know, I got love and respect for
dr. 

476
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,500
Robert Malone, but it's like, 
when we couple that with people 

477
00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:36,900
who used to work for George 
Soros, that were trusting to 

478
00:22:36,900 --> 00:22:39,300
save us, people who used to make
mRNA technology. 

479
00:22:39,300 --> 00:22:40,700
I don't know why we're getting 
the constantly. 

480
00:22:40,700 --> 00:22:44,300
The people that were making 
shit, that ruins people's lives 

481
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,200
and now they're going to fix it 
for us, you know. 

482
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,800
And like, we're not trusting. 
Dr. Robert Malone to solve 

483
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,200
covid. 
Like, you know, I mean, that's 

484
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,400
not what we're doing. 
But I have to trust the guy who 

485
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,400
Michael shellenberger, his covid
takes. 

486
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,100
And now, look, everybody in 
March is allowed to be scared. 

487
00:22:58,100 --> 00:23:00,800
There's a grace period, right? 
I mean, I'll let's hear a lot of

488
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,800
people were at me and myself 
included, right? 

489
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,100
Like he has these threat. 
He is a threat on like March 

490
00:23:05,100 --> 00:23:08,100
15th. 
That is like God awful, because 

491
00:23:08,100 --> 00:23:10,200
not not that he's scared of the 
virus. 

492
00:23:10,300 --> 00:23:12,300
He says it's number like, hey, 
it's going to kill like 10 

493
00:23:12,300 --> 00:23:14,300
million. 
I was skeptical at first, but 

494
00:23:14,300 --> 00:23:16,900
it's going to kill like 10 
million people like You know, 

495
00:23:16,900 --> 00:23:19,600
aha over the next. 
So he had this like crazy model 

496
00:23:19,700 --> 00:23:23,600
they had and then like all of a 
sudden he's like climate change 

497
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,800
is all the Liberals care about. 
We need to care about this. 

498
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,900
We need to care about covid. 
Like people are dying, people 

499
00:23:27,900 --> 00:23:31,100
are dying and and then he's 
like, we need to do. 

500
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:36,400
We need more, we need the ngos. 
We need the ngos that are 

501
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,600
funded, that the Democrats, you 
know, champion and support the 

502
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,400
ones that they do for climate 
change, which isn't as bad as I 

503
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,600
say. 
We need that for pandemics. 

504
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,500
And I'm just like, okay, 
regardless what? 

505
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:55,600
Yeah, I'll dmu the thread right 
now ngos with Davis from from 

506
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,000
future pandemics. 
Yeah. 

507
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,200
It was like, rug wait, like, 
that's never okay, to say, you 

508
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,300
don't know guy. 
That's yeah. 

509
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,000
Biotech will save us from that 
seed oil. 

510
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,400
Literally. 
I'm just, you know, this is bad,

511
00:24:07,700 --> 00:24:11,200
bad etiquette for a podcast, but
I'm going to send my fitness 

512
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,100
feelings. 
The, the thing and is DM right 

513
00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:15,200
now. 
I want him to take a look. 

514
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,900
I sent you a one. 
By the reply, okay. 

515
00:24:17,900 --> 00:24:19,600
I'll read it. 
Right just that way. 

516
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,100
One guy. 
There's a huge lengthy thread. 

517
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,800
And then this guy said this guy 
asked some tweets. 

518
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,600
Adam says, don't the agencies 
which have which have been doing

519
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,700
that work for decades? 
Have a pretty hefty budget. 

520
00:24:29,700 --> 00:24:31,300
It's not like the work doesn't 
exist. 

521
00:24:31,300 --> 00:24:33,700
It's that the politicians don't 
listen, let us stuff like that. 

522
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,800
Michael shellenberger replies. 
Yes, but no organized, advocacy 

523
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,600
movement of ngos exist, for 
pandemic, mitigation and 

524
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,400
preparedness, like like exist 
for climate and advocacy is 

525
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,600
hugely important. 
In shaping policy. 

526
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,000
Agendas look at the high 
priority of climate for climate 

527
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,100
for Democrats compared to 
pandemics. 

528
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,400
And, you know, when we talk to 
people like, dr. 

529
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,700
Jonathan Latham, who are talking
about, like, no, I'm sorry. 

530
00:24:59,700 --> 00:25:02,400
There's plenty of funding for 
these fucking virus things. 

531
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,900
You know, I mean, we like spend 
money on. 

532
00:25:03,900 --> 00:25:06,300
Oh, yeah, we still spend money 
on Anthrax, shit. 

533
00:25:06,300 --> 00:25:09,000
Dude, like stuff like that. 
I guess we're all this stuff 

534
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,200
coming in, but did my problem 
with these IDW guys is, and I 

535
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,700
probably am reacting to this 
harshly just because it's where 

536
00:25:15,700 --> 00:25:17,300
I live. 
No, I'm this guy. 

537
00:25:17,300 --> 00:25:22,900
This guy could run the place and
they will always Never say we 

538
00:25:22,900 --> 00:25:25,100
need to get rid of the 
institution, right? 

539
00:25:25,100 --> 00:25:27,100
Or at least, not lean on the 
institution. 

540
00:25:27,300 --> 00:25:31,800
It's that the institution can be
saved by competent people and 

541
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,900
it's like one, they've kind of 
create this fallacy where like, 

542
00:25:35,900 --> 00:25:40,800
there's people aren't, it's not,
it's not a lack of intelligence.

543
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,200
It's having the wrong take, you 
know, I mean, I know some of the

544
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,500
smartest people in the world 
with the worst takes, you know, 

545
00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:47,700
I mean and like that. 
These are the people that can 

546
00:25:47,700 --> 00:25:49,900
get by get over on these IDW 
guys. 

547
00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:52,600
Yeah. 
I think I think that's really 

548
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,300
well. 
Said I was thinking as I was 

549
00:25:54,300 --> 00:25:59,200
posting about Ivan illich 
earlier today and he has a, he's

550
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,400
take on institutions or his 
theory of Institutions. 

551
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:07,600
They could at any institution, 
basically produces the opposite 

552
00:26:07,700 --> 00:26:11,000
of what of the need its intended
to solve, like The Police become

553
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,300
criminals and media lies to you,
you know, doctors make you sick 

554
00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:19,800
and so and so and rights always 
kind of the opposite and I think

555
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,500
the the danger That you're 
pointing to it. 

556
00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:26,200
He's like, shellenberger sort of
deal, is it if you start 

557
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,200
thinking along those lines, like
the problem is actually easy 

558
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,000
institution itself, in some 
sense, having a more competent 

559
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,200
institution is actually worse, 
right? 

560
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,700
You can do more damage. 
If it has like more money. 

561
00:26:38,900 --> 00:26:41,700
It's got more confident people. 
It's got better technology. 

562
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,000
They've got ngos, like, 
agitating for it to be able to 

563
00:26:45,008 --> 00:26:48,300
do even more, that's like the 
worst situation you could 

564
00:26:48,300 --> 00:26:51,700
possibly have. 
I would much rather have Just 

565
00:26:51,700 --> 00:26:54,600
some incompetent like fool 
running things, you know, at 

566
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,300
least they might make a mistake,
you know, or something, right? 

567
00:26:57,300 --> 00:27:02,100
But like optimized, technocratic
control. 

568
00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:04,900
Like need to get even more 
vaccines, even more people. 

569
00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:08,000
Like that is, it's terrifying. 
It's really not. 

570
00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:09,800
It's not good. 
No. 

571
00:27:10,300 --> 00:27:15,400
No, it's, you know, it's what 
it's why Jordan Pederson who? 

572
00:27:15,700 --> 00:27:17,900
Okay, like, all right. 
Let's talk about IQ, right? 

573
00:27:17,900 --> 00:27:20,900
A lot of the what do you think? 
Do you think these got sayur? 

574
00:27:21,100 --> 00:27:22,800
Somebody I could trust. 
This is what do you think? 

575
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,700
Those guys? 
And I know you and I trust this 

576
00:27:24,700 --> 00:27:27,300
metric, the way other people do 
or apply it to everything. 

577
00:27:27,300 --> 00:27:28,900
We do. 
You think almost all these IDW 

578
00:27:28,900 --> 00:27:30,200
guys. 
They probably have, like, high 

579
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,000
IQs, right? 
Yeah. 

580
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,300
For sure. 
Yeah. 

581
00:27:33,300 --> 00:27:34,800
They're like smart guy. 
I mean, like, you know, the 

582
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,200
weinsteins. 
They're smart guy. 

583
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,100
Yeah. 
Hi q. 

584
00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:40,300
And they, they care about that 
metric. 

585
00:27:40,300 --> 00:27:42,200
That's all Jordan. 
Pederson talks about is like 

586
00:27:42,300 --> 00:27:45,000
psychology and IQ and like, 
that's his whole fucking thing, 

587
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:50,300
you know, and but yeah, it's 
like we all know anyone. 

588
00:27:50,300 --> 00:27:54,000
That's Spent any time around a 
Mensa guy, which is by 

589
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:59,200
definition of high IQ and knows,
it individual knows that I try 

590
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,000
not to but it happens. 
Yeah. 

591
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,500
Yeah, those people are not going
to solve any of our problems. 

592
00:28:05,500 --> 00:28:08,000
Like everyone knows everyone 
knows that an instinctual me. 

593
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,100
Yeah, everyone, you know what I 
mean? 

594
00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:12,600
Yeah. 
Yeah, I mean about intelligence 

595
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,900
to that. 
I think people don't get it. 

596
00:28:13,900 --> 00:28:17,600
Everyone imagined. 
It's only externally facing, 

597
00:28:17,700 --> 00:28:20,500
right? 
Whereas, I think people that are

598
00:28:20,500 --> 00:28:22,300
really smart. 
They're also really good at like

599
00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:25,300
tricking themselves, you know, 
like they're better at lying to 

600
00:28:25,300 --> 00:28:29,600
themselves and you know, 
whatever and it's something it's

601
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:30,700
really get things. 
Right. 

602
00:28:30,700 --> 00:28:33,600
But there are often times just 
better at justifying their own 

603
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,200
kind of bullshit. 
Right? 

604
00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:37,000
And that's not necessarily a 
good. 

605
00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:39,800
You know what I mean? 
Like, often times you just find 

606
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,700
like, more complex 
rationalization to the things 

607
00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:45,800
that you already want to do 
which, you know, I'm not like 

608
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,600
always into that. 
Yeah. 

609
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,600
Mmm. 
Yeah, 100% agree, like. 

610
00:28:51,300 --> 00:28:53,900
I mean, I guess where I was 
getting out with the IQ point. 

611
00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:57,600
It's like, okay. 
I know this is not meant to like

612
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,400
to our horn or anything. 
I don't have a high IQ. 

613
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,600
I've never heard, I've never 
tested it, but I just know, I 

614
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,600
don't have what they have, and I
think I'm around, like, 

615
00:29:06,900 --> 00:29:10,900
probably, I probably say it's 
like around 100. 

616
00:29:10,900 --> 00:29:13,500
If not lower. 
Like, I just, I don't like I did

617
00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:15,400
that. 
I took geometry three times in 

618
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,700
high school. 
I'll admit it. 

619
00:29:16,700 --> 00:29:18,600
I took it three times in high 
school and it's not because I 

620
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,200
loved it. 
You know, it was it was is It 

621
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,800
was rough, you know the shapes 
get me and I know that IQ test 

622
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,200
it mostly shapes. 
It's like, I have no idea if 

623
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,700
this Block B into this thing at 
the count. 

624
00:29:34,700 --> 00:29:36,600
How many triangles are in this 
fucking thing? 

625
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,600
Okay, and probably, so, I took 
it, I took it, I took a test 

626
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,900
online, right? 
And, you know, I'll let you guys

627
00:29:45,900 --> 00:29:49,400
determine maybe what this means 
for my intelligence because I 

628
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,600
took the IQ, like, one find out 
your IQ and I get through the 

629
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,000
test. 
I'm like, this is insane. 

630
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,300
Like, you know, the fuck is. 
Shit, I got it, Mike. 

631
00:29:57,300 --> 00:29:59,900
These people are the ones that 
are making decisions for for my 

632
00:29:59,900 --> 00:30:02,500
life, as people that can count, 
how many fucking triangles or in

633
00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:04,500
a circle or something? 
Yeah, sick. 

634
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,700
And I'm then, so, anyways, I get
done with it and it says like, 

635
00:30:08,700 --> 00:30:10,600
you know, finish and it's like 
okay to get your score that's 

636
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,000
going to be $35. 
You know, I mean, am I call me a

637
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,900
low IQ guy would pay to find 
out. 

638
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,100
That's the way that's the test. 
That's the only parent that's, 

639
00:30:19,100 --> 00:30:22,200
yeah, you know, I think I may 
be, I think I'm 140 actually. 

640
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,100
Yeah, he's got 140 if you don't 
pay. 

641
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,500
That's how it works that do. 
That would be such a good fake. 

642
00:30:31,500 --> 00:30:45,000
Like website arbitrary score? 
That doesn't you got this. 

643
00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:47,500
Well, it's crazy. 
When the, because these people 

644
00:30:47,700 --> 00:30:50,300
are trying to the thing that got
me. 

645
00:30:50,300 --> 00:30:51,800
I don't know where you guys 
stand at. 

646
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,400
What you can talk if you want to
get into this. 

647
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,400
Now about the whole energy 
crisis and Nuclear and solar. 

648
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,900
And yeah. 
And then fracking and all that 

649
00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:02,300
shit because I hear your first 
off. 

650
00:31:02,300 --> 00:31:03,400
What is he, what? 
I mean? 

651
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,100
He's like the guy the nuclear 
guy, right, shellenberger. 

652
00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:12,200
He's nuclear and fracking, and 
basically he's out on solar and 

653
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,600
wind big time as being like, 
dramatically unsustainable and 

654
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:21,400
things like that. 
Now I'm like, I'm more of, I'm 

655
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,500
like, a, I'm like a wind and 
solar defender in this. 

656
00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:26,500
In this cut. 
We're in this age where Where 

657
00:31:26,700 --> 00:31:28,800
it's to else. 
Like are you going to be anti 

658
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,700
those two elements where? 
Yeah, exactly. 

659
00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:32,100
Yeah, exactly. 
Yeah. 

660
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:37,300
Yeah, but it's like we're in 
this age where everyone's got 

661
00:31:37,300 --> 00:31:40,200
the pro-nuclear take and I you 
know, those take where it's like

662
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,000
You know, it's like it's like a 
it's my same thing with Andy and

663
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,900
I'm not saying any you guys 
agree with any of this shit but 

664
00:31:46,900 --> 00:31:48,700
it's the same thing where 
everyone has the cholesterol 

665
00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:50,600
doesn't have heart disease. 
Doesn't cause heart disease 

666
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,800
take, which is like maybe it was
like maybe it was overblown that

667
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,200
cholesterol did cause heart 
disease, but now it's the 

668
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,100
complete opposite, you know, now
it's like that with wind and 

669
00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:03,300
solar where it's clear that we 
didn't solar are going to solve,

670
00:32:03,300 --> 00:32:06,000
like, all our energy problems, 
but now people like hate them 

671
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,300
and think they're Terror, right?
You're not going to like and I'm

672
00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:11,400
kind of like well, hang on like 
On both those issue. 

673
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,400
I'm kind of like I'm like, I'm 
like this is there's not I'm not

674
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,500
willing to throw the baby out 
with the bathwater here kind of 

675
00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:18,200
thing and I don't know how you 
guys feel about it. 

676
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,700
But but it's and I did. 
I it granted, I did work for one

677
00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:24,900
of my jobs, was I work for a 
wind? 

678
00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:28,600
Like a wind lab, like a winds 
place? 

679
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,300
My eyes. 
Yeah. 

680
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,200
Well, it's like and want to say 
it like that. 

681
00:32:34,300 --> 00:32:38,000
The guy works for was legit one.
Let's talk about high IQ. 

682
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,200
That guy fucking, was it green. 
Jorge Soler roast. 

683
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,400
Yeah, that is named after so so 
roast. 

684
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,600
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

685
00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:50,100
Was he what I mean? 
Yeah, that's now gone. 

686
00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:56,100
Sorry my whole thing like like 
the solar wind and I guess I 

687
00:32:56,108 --> 00:33:01,600
like solar better than wind but 
I'm Pro disruptive Technologies.

688
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,400
They are decentralized. 
Right? 

689
00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:08,400
And that's what solar is Right 
Loop. 

690
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,700
Something like nuclear is by 
definition extremely 

691
00:33:11,700 --> 00:33:14,800
centralized, right? 
It's, you know, it has to be 

692
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,000
centralized. 
There's other things like Micro 

693
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,900
Hydro things like that, but I 
You know, I don't know where I 

694
00:33:21,908 --> 00:33:24,200
stand all that stuff. 
But I know that like a lot of 

695
00:33:24,208 --> 00:33:26,900
these, these new kind of 
reactionary critiques of wind, 

696
00:33:26,900 --> 00:33:29,000
and solar are like a little bit 
overboard. 

697
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,000
And a little bit there. 
They're falling into some myths.

698
00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:37,600
And I just don't think we should
throw the baby out with the 

699
00:33:37,608 --> 00:33:41,200
bathwater and they have a place 
on the they have a place here, 

700
00:33:41,900 --> 00:33:43,300
but I don't know. 
What do you guys think? 

701
00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:46,600
I don't know. 
I don't know anything about 

702
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,300
solar or nuclear. 
I just know nuclear scares the 

703
00:33:49,300 --> 00:33:53,400
hell out of me because I am like
honestly, like there's people 

704
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,500
that are like Fukushima truthers
and he was one of them Michael 

705
00:33:56,500 --> 00:33:58,200
shellenberger. 
He's like, literally one person 

706
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,700
died of radiation. 
I'm like, yeah. 

707
00:33:59,700 --> 00:34:01,100
Okay. 
I did. 

708
00:34:01,100 --> 00:34:03,400
I don't know man. 
Like, I, that stuff scares me 

709
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,500
this. 
I like your idea of you know, 

710
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,000
decentralized. 
Yeah, nothing. 

711
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:11,800
Yeah. 
I've been seeing this Ilan you, 

712
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,000
they're all saying it on Rogan. 
You all know saying the same 

713
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,699
shit right? 
Wow, or no, I think it was on 

714
00:34:16,699 --> 00:34:19,400
like screaming or whatever, but 
he was going over there and 

715
00:34:19,408 --> 00:34:21,600
eating the vegetables. 
A sort of Fukushima to prove 

716
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:26,199
that it's safe and everything. 
And it's like, man, it's I like 

717
00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:32,800
how they say that. 
The modern that, that with, you 

718
00:34:32,808 --> 00:34:37,100
know, modern modern nuclear 
power is safe. 

719
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:40,100
Now, they like and, you know, 
third or fourth or whatever 

720
00:34:40,100 --> 00:34:43,600
General 5th gen reactors. 
We figured it out and they can't

721
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,000
melt down, and they can't do X Y
or Z, but then this stuff keeps 

722
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,000
happening. 
And I know I'm people are going 

723
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,000
to say that it's because 
Fukushima wasn't one of these 

724
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:57,900
new reactors or whatever. 
But um, I don't know and I just,

725
00:34:57,900 --> 00:35:00,200
I'm sorry, the family ability of
humanity. 

726
00:35:00,700 --> 00:35:03,900
And I know that there's some 
definitely. 

727
00:35:03,900 --> 00:35:06,600
Some are tantric, any fans. 
I would disagree with us on 

728
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,100
this. 
But yeah, but yeah, you're not 

729
00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:11,900
in good standing with them right
now either. 

730
00:35:11,900 --> 00:35:15,000
Not a, yeah, I'm, yeah, we're, 
I'm trying to be like your third

731
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,600
straight week of psyops like, 
yeah, exactly. 

732
00:35:18,500 --> 00:35:19,800
Well, yeah, thank you. 
That is my hope. 

733
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,500
Yeah. 
I don't know if you guys have 

734
00:35:22,700 --> 00:35:25,400
You have Pro like a lot of 
pro-nuclear fans. 

735
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,100
I'm just kind of curious about 
that. 

736
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,100
I don't know if we do. 
I we I don't think we've talked 

737
00:35:29,100 --> 00:35:32,200
about this, like, at all. 
I don't, I don't think we have. 

738
00:35:32,300 --> 00:35:34,900
I see a lot of that going around
though, like where they like 

739
00:35:34,900 --> 00:35:37,500
nuclear is the weight nuclear's?
The way a lot of people like 

740
00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:42,500
shellenberger cuz of that like a
lot of people do, you know, and 

741
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,300
I, I don't know, like, I can't 
say I'm like, oh this, you know,

742
00:35:46,300 --> 00:35:51,200
I used to attempt at some Solar 
Company to and it was kind of 

743
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,900
like a I just seemed kind of 
fake, to be honest. 

744
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,200
Yeah, what we were doing. 
I gotta just like this that I 

745
00:35:57,207 --> 00:35:59,600
just felt like, very hungry 
Homer Simpson like just. 

746
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,700
Yeah, I mean, ironically that's 
nuclear. 

747
00:36:01,700 --> 00:36:04,400
But like, you know, I kind of 
was like, I just felt like 

748
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,200
having like this really dumb 
like Homer Simpson style job 

749
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,200
like at this at this place and 
just fiberglass floating 

750
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,600
everywhere. 
And yeah, and just like probe 

751
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,700
wires, like testing energy stuff
and I don't, I have no idea the 

752
00:36:17,707 --> 00:36:19,800
effect of it. 
I mean, could I'll toss you? 

753
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,200
This. 
Could we run? 

754
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,200
Society. 
As it is do it. 

755
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,100
We have to make changes for 
solar energy. 

756
00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:27,600
Like what do we have to color? 
You? 

757
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,000
Could we can use as much as we 
do. 

758
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,100
What you need is I think you 
need a mix of. 

759
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:39,000
I mean, a like many first of 
all, solar panels, they last a 

760
00:36:39,008 --> 00:36:41,700
long time. 
And, and the. 

761
00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:44,100
What what everyone's saying is 
you can't recycle. 

762
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:46,700
I looked in the recycling bin 
because we were talking about 

763
00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:49,900
this and the Discord and and I 
think in one of my dreams were 

764
00:36:49,900 --> 00:36:53,300
too, but I looked into it. 
And the recycling thing is a 

765
00:36:53,300 --> 00:36:56,200
little bit overblown that we 
can't recycle solar panels. 

766
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,800
It's extremely. 
It's they use extremely 

767
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,500
conservative estimates for how 
long they last on how quickly 

768
00:37:03,500 --> 00:37:07,200
they degrade and generally, it's
like a good 10-15 years further 

769
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,100
than that. 
So if we slapped every every few

770
00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:11,100
slaps floor panels and 
everything. 

771
00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:15,900
Now, every house every 
Community, blah, blah, blah, we 

772
00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:20,700
could, we could basically, you 
know, we can buy ourselves a 

773
00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:24,800
good 40. 
You know, 40 Years of time 

774
00:37:25,300 --> 00:37:28,800
before, we'd have to recycle the
new solar panels being put now, 

775
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:31,700
which I'm sure we would have 
much better technology to be 

776
00:37:31,700 --> 00:37:34,600
able to recycle them. 40, 50 
years and much better solar 

777
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,600
panels than to replace them 
with. 

778
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:44,000
Does that make sense? 
It does and Where else is it 

779
00:37:44,008 --> 00:37:47,100
going with this end? 
Yeah, and my whole thing is 

780
00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:49,400
like, you know, I don't think 
I'm not, I don't think we should

781
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,000
actually have giant Fields full 
of solar. 

782
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,500
I think solar should be should 
be disruptive. 

783
00:37:53,500 --> 00:37:56,800
It should be on every surface 
that isn't, you know, like most 

784
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,900
roofs could have solar even in 
cold climates even in cold 

785
00:37:59,900 --> 00:38:02,800
weather and all and probably 
weather and all that stuff to 

786
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,100
wear. 
It would just removes. 

787
00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:08,100
It would just be such a huge. 
It'd be like waking up and 

788
00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:11,700
finding an extra, you know, 25 
Grand in your bank account and 

789
00:38:11,700 --> 00:38:13,100
you'd be like, oh shit. 
I got some greedy. 

790
00:38:13,300 --> 00:38:16,300
I'm now like all you know. 
I could, I could, I could, you 

791
00:38:16,300 --> 00:38:16,800
know what? 
I mean? 

792
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,400
It's just like one of those 
things where if we did that, as 

793
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,400
a species, you know, where we 
could just cut electricity cost 

794
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,500
to the home, still have 
everything linked up to the 

795
00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:28,500
grid, still have everything, you
know, all that stuff. 

796
00:38:29,700 --> 00:38:33,100
I just think it's just a, 
there's so many benefits towards

797
00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:40,100
having a stopgap and like a, 
like an alternative and just 

798
00:38:40,100 --> 00:38:42,800
something to break up. 
This whole centralized thing 

799
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,900
that we Got going on and then 
from there to generate stuff as 

800
00:38:46,900 --> 00:38:48,900
a society. 
The whole thing is like 

801
00:38:48,900 --> 00:38:51,100
batteries, right? 
You do we have enough batteries 

802
00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:53,300
and I think there are a lot of 
problems with the batteries and 

803
00:38:53,300 --> 00:38:55,500
the cars and the Tesla and all 
that stuff. 

804
00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:59,100
And I think that's the bigger 
way bigger problem than the 

805
00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:03,500
solar panels is the batteries, 
but in terms of like societal 

806
00:39:03,500 --> 00:39:09,700
energy, a battery is just you 
know, store of energy. 

807
00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:13,400
Like we could have a battery as 
a society, we could We could 

808
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:18,400
pump water up a hill during the 
daytime, with solar and wind and

809
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,800
stuff like that. 
And then use that energy at 

810
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:25,500
Night by releasing its potential
energy and cranking a turbine, 

811
00:39:25,500 --> 00:39:28,400
you know, like a like a, like a 
water turbine by releasing water

812
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,700
down the hill. 
You know what I'm saying? 

813
00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:31,300
That's a battery. 
Technically. 

814
00:39:31,300 --> 00:39:34,100
That's a very low Tech battery. 
Everything. 

815
00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:36,300
We're trying to do everything 
with tech that with the highest 

816
00:39:36,300 --> 00:39:38,200
possible Tech. 
And of course that's going to be

817
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,200
part of it, but I'm saying, like
just using fucking gravity and 

818
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,200
like water. 
Annex and stuff like that. 

819
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,800
We can solve a lot of problems, 
cover huge, you know, because 

820
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,700
everyone's worried about 
nighttime, you know, because of 

821
00:39:49,700 --> 00:39:53,400
cities and stuff like that. 
Yeah. 

822
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,500
So that I don't have been 
ranting for a while, but I just 

823
00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:57,800
think there's so many like cool 
little things. 

824
00:39:57,900 --> 00:40:00,400
Solar hot water is another one. 
That's my favorite one. 

825
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,400
Where it's like, where you know,
like and you know, huge 

826
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,600
percentages of like a 
Mediterranean get all their hot 

827
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,100
water from solar hot water which
is complete, super low Tech, 

828
00:40:10,700 --> 00:40:14,800
super easy last forever free. 
You know, and it's just little 

829
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,800
things like that. 
We need like a patchwork of all 

830
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,800
this stuff with some 
heavy-hitter stuff. 

831
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,200
But I just, you know, when you 
run the numbers like Society 

832
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,200
needs X your, of course, you're 
going to be like a solar and 

833
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,900
wind are fucking retarded, and 
we need nuclear, but I'm saying 

834
00:40:27,900 --> 00:40:30,600
it's like that. 
That's kind of like a straw man 

835
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,100
as is like, yeah. 
Yeah. 

836
00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:35,100
Yeah, we know. 
I mean, it makes sense. 

837
00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:39,200
I mean, I think I was Yeah, I'm 
struck by a few things in 

838
00:40:39,207 --> 00:40:42,000
relation to the solar wind 
stopped and nuclear. 

839
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,000
Stop the shellenberger. 
I mean the thing I get about the

840
00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:49,500
nuclear bro, sort of archetype 
the sense I get from those 

841
00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:52,400
people and I find it is 
understandable to me. 

842
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,600
But my position on that. 
It's something like not from a 

843
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,500
technical standpoint, but he 
just seems almost like a bit of 

844
00:40:58,500 --> 00:41:01,400
a power fantasy, like the idea 
that nuclear like, this 

845
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,500
unlimited amount of energy and 
that will somehow solve all of 

846
00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:09,600
our problems. 
Sometimes, I think that, you 

847
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,400
know, we get a little bit 
trapped by modern thinking about

848
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,100
that. 
Like the solution is we need 

849
00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:18,100
like endless amounts of energy. 
So honestly, I don't really 

850
00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:19,500
think that's true. 
Right? 

851
00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:21,700
I actually think it's like, we 
have a solution to have like, 

852
00:41:21,700 --> 00:41:24,500
more than enough shit going on. 
Like the, you know, all the 

853
00:41:24,508 --> 00:41:27,700
problems that people are lonely 
and like, disconnected. 

854
00:41:27,700 --> 00:41:31,100
They don't have meaningful work.
It's like physically physical 

855
00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:33,900
work to do that. 
You know, they give them some 

856
00:41:33,900 --> 00:41:36,300
meaning. 
It's like, I don't want, what 

857
00:41:36,300 --> 00:41:39,100
are we going to do with all? 
All this other energy, right? 

858
00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:42,000
That's what sort of one critique
I have. 

859
00:41:42,300 --> 00:41:46,000
And in the second is the 
shoenberger type of person does 

860
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,800
seem to be obsessed with this 
idea of centralization, right. 

861
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,000
Like the nuclear thing. 
But also I was looking at like 

862
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,100
at his homeless because I've 
always heard that's how I heard 

863
00:41:56,100 --> 00:41:58,800
about the guy. 
Yeah, that whole homeless thing 

864
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,200
and like it was. 
I we haven't even come 

865
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:02,900
horrifying. 
What? 

866
00:42:02,900 --> 00:42:04,500
He was suggesting. 
I was like, Oh, I thought this 

867
00:42:04,500 --> 00:42:07,700
is just like some, you know, you
wants to Little bit like 

868
00:42:07,700 --> 00:42:11,200
tougher, like cops or something.
But in reality, it's like he 

869
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:16,500
wants to create this like Cal 
psych Central, Isaac State 

870
00:42:16,500 --> 00:42:19,000
thing. 
They can like, develop its so 

871
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,200
NGO, like weird. 
Yeah. 

872
00:42:21,500 --> 00:42:23,700
He's not the mother. 
He's like documentaries named 

873
00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:26,400
San Francisco, which I thought 
was kind of like a little over 

874
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,100
the, you know, that's a little 
weird and I don't want a bit 

875
00:42:29,100 --> 00:42:29,800
much. 
Yeah. 

876
00:42:32,900 --> 00:42:35,800
Yeah, right. 
It's like, it's a basically and 

877
00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:39,000
they call them home. 
Shelters and I look I'm not for 

878
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,900
like homeless encampments 
everywhere. 

879
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,500
But, you know, it's like it 
sounds like he just really wants

880
00:42:43,500 --> 00:42:46,100
to have this cow psych thing 
like round the homeless up and 

881
00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:49,000
put them into Camp. 
I'm like, yeah. 

882
00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:53,000
Damn dude, that's a little bit 
like that's not super. 

883
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,300
I don't love that. 
I have to be honest. 

884
00:42:55,300 --> 00:42:57,000
It seems. 
What do you think about Ms. 

885
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,300
Hogar. 
The National Guard. 

886
00:42:58,300 --> 00:43:01,000
He wants to invoke the National 
Guard and he's like he 

887
00:43:01,008 --> 00:43:03,000
immediately he's like only 
temporarily only in a 

888
00:43:03,008 --> 00:43:06,100
non-military Kant, you know, 
he's kind of I'm like, yeah, I 

889
00:43:06,100 --> 00:43:09,000
don't want I don't want to One 
who worked for George Soros, 

890
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,100
like invoking. 
The National Guard, like, under 

891
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:14,600
any circumstances honored. 
I just don't, I just don't trust

892
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,000
that guy. 
Yeah, and so there's a guy I 

893
00:43:17,008 --> 00:43:19,100
want to say his name is Sean 
Collins, who's running. 

894
00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:22,900
He's running as a republican in.
Yeah, in California. 

895
00:43:22,900 --> 00:43:26,100
And like his hey I'm taking 
stuff from his so I haven't 

896
00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:27,600
really watched any interviews 
with me. 

897
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,400
I'm not endorsing this guy or 
anything but like I'm just like 

898
00:43:30,500 --> 00:43:34,300
the problem with with people as 
they here and again, not to 

899
00:43:34,308 --> 00:43:37,000
speak ill of like Rogan and 
stuff but like to go here. 

900
00:43:37,100 --> 00:43:39,500
Tough on Rogan and people like 
that's the only guy in the world

901
00:43:39,500 --> 00:43:41,400
with that idea. 
Yeah, when they when they see 

902
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,800
him on there and it's like, 
literally everybody else. 

903
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,400
It's such a hot ticket item 
because it's such a fucking 

904
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,100
problem in California. 
Everybody's got some solution 

905
00:43:49,100 --> 00:43:50,300
for it. 
Like that's running for 

906
00:43:50,300 --> 00:43:51,100
governor. 
It's like you. 

907
00:43:51,100 --> 00:43:53,100
What are you doing running? 
If you don't have like a 

908
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,900
coherent take on homelessness, 
whether you implement it or not.

909
00:43:55,900 --> 00:43:59,900
You have to have the coherent 
take to run and you know, Sean 

910
00:43:59,900 --> 00:44:02,300
Collins big thing is like these 
are people that need to be in 

911
00:44:02,300 --> 00:44:04,300
mental health facilities. 
These are people that need drug 

912
00:44:04,300 --> 00:44:06,400
treatment facilities. 
It's one or the other. 

913
00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:08,900
Hey, As there's very and even 
sites. 

914
00:44:08,900 --> 00:44:11,200
Because there's a difference 
between the people who the 

915
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,800
have-nots in the will knots, 
people know guys, that are 

916
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,800
homeless that are, you know, 
just down on her luck in between

917
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,100
jobs, you know, something 
happened, big catastrophic event

918
00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:23,000
in their life and they're 
typically not the people that 

919
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,700
need to be in, mental 
institutions and stuff. 

920
00:44:24,700 --> 00:44:28,200
So he basically, you know, says,
says that and he says nothing 

921
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,900
about the National Guard, 
anything like that. 

922
00:44:29,900 --> 00:44:31,400
And I think that's what most 
people want. 

923
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,400
Honestly is like, that's what 
most people want. 

924
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,400
They don't want this, like 
insane, like homeless, 

925
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,800
Rehabilitation like NGO. 
A project that this guys doing, 

926
00:44:38,900 --> 00:44:40,400
you know what I mean? 
Like with like now. 

927
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,000
Yeah, they don't want that. 
They just are like, look, I 

928
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,200
shouldn't have to think about 
this. 

929
00:44:44,300 --> 00:44:47,600
This is not the working persons 
burden, you know, I mean, this 

930
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,600
is something that if you can get
them in mental facility because 

931
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,900
some people are were, some 
people can be saved. 

932
00:44:52,900 --> 00:44:54,700
Some people just need to be 
monitored for the rest of their 

933
00:44:54,700 --> 00:44:56,400
life. 
I mean, I'm sorry, that's that's

934
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,100
a, that's a real take. 
Like, it's just, I'm, there's 

935
00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:02,200
some bad things that go on when 
you let people that are just not

936
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:06,500
stable, just go out there 
because for one you don't have a

937
00:45:06,508 --> 00:45:09,300
place for Or for to the place 
you have for them is right next 

938
00:45:09,300 --> 00:45:13,100
to the freeway sign, you know, 
and that's just, you know, II. 

939
00:45:13,100 --> 00:45:14,700
There's other people that have 
these coherent take. 

940
00:45:14,700 --> 00:45:17,400
So I do just urge people to go, 
go check out, you know, people 

941
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,800
like Sean Collins and then and 
then go back to shellenberger. 

942
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:20,900
If you like that, then you like 
that? 

943
00:45:20,900 --> 00:45:22,100
That's that's your decision. 
You know? 

944
00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:23,000
Yeah. 
Well, too. 

945
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,900
It's like yeah, exactly. 
Like what you said they where 

946
00:45:26,900 --> 00:45:28,800
sometimes someone gets a big 
platform and they call out the 

947
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,100
problem and then people 
immediately think they have to 

948
00:45:31,100 --> 00:45:33,300
like that guy's solution. 
What do you think? 

949
00:45:33,300 --> 00:45:34,700
Okay. 
I this is I'm just thinking of 

950
00:45:34,707 --> 00:45:36,700
this now. 
I think I am. 

951
00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:39,800
I really thought about this the 
other day just by myself, but 

952
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,500
what do you guys think about 
this? 

953
00:45:41,500 --> 00:45:43,800
Because obviously, like the 
progressive agenda in 

954
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:48,400
California, is everyone blames 
it and as we why, the big reason

955
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,500
why we're in the best, you know,
in terms of a lot of issues with

956
00:45:51,500 --> 00:45:54,900
the homeless staying everything,
but what do you think about the 

957
00:45:54,900 --> 00:45:59,900
conservatives kind of blaming 
all that on progressives or 

958
00:45:59,908 --> 00:46:03,100
whatever? 
But then kind of ignoring like, 

959
00:46:03,100 --> 00:46:06,900
like the like the concern, the 
80s Reagan reaganism cancer. 

960
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,600
I have definitely had a big part
to do with that shit, right? 

961
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,400
And like our oh, yeah, are we 
just put? 

962
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,800
Yeah, you can't turn the mental 
institutions out in the 80s. 

963
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,600
That's literally what happened 
in California. 

964
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,100
So it's just as it's just weird 
thing where like 20 years, 

965
00:46:19,100 --> 00:46:22,600
passes, 40 years passes and then
everyone on each and this 

966
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,300
happens on both sides, but 
everyone forgets the role that 

967
00:46:26,300 --> 00:46:29,100
their ideology plays over the 
problem, you know what I mean? 

968
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:30,600
Exactly. 
Yeah, like everyone's blaming 

969
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,200
the lib cards now, but it's also
it's like yeah, it's like, you 

970
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:38,000
know, like we need to not like, 
And how this became the 

971
00:46:38,008 --> 00:46:42,100
Inception of this, like, how how
it, you know, how well, the 

972
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:45,600
answer and it started, it 
started there, right? 

973
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,300
But why did they all go to 
California though? 

974
00:46:47,900 --> 00:46:49,200
That's on her lives. 
In my opinion. 

975
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,600
Yeah, on a bad time. 
The lives. 

976
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,700
We literally allow people to 
just do drugs out here. 

977
00:46:52,700 --> 00:46:54,900
Like, I mean, you know, I'm 
saying like, that's that's fake.

978
00:46:54,900 --> 00:46:57,900
That's what it is. 
You have no joke like a dirtbag 

979
00:46:57,900 --> 00:46:59,800
leftist as the da and sort of 
San Francisco. 

980
00:46:59,900 --> 00:47:03,600
I'm not, that is not hyperbole 
online. 

981
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,300
Dirtbag left guy that we got a 
patreon days to complete. 

982
00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:09,600
Dean, look him up, dude. 
Like I do doesn't have a Chapo 

983
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,900
Patron, fucking thing. 
I'll give you some money. 

984
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,100
It's obvious. 
A like there's there seriously 

985
00:47:16,100 --> 00:47:18,300
like this guy's you know, the 
shoplifting under nine. 

986
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,300
It's a flop in a failure. 
The shoplifting Bandits a 

987
00:47:21,308 --> 00:47:24,100
failure. 
Okay, like if and and everybody 

988
00:47:24,100 --> 00:47:26,400
knows it's a failure, but some 
people are like, yeah, that's 

989
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:27,500
good. 
It's a failure because then is 

990
00:47:27,500 --> 00:47:29,800
we're going to overthrow the 
system because it's failing so 

991
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:30,900
hard. 
It's like at know. 

992
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,900
Yeah, sorry, and so that's not 
that What's going to happen? 

993
00:47:37,900 --> 00:47:39,700
You don't even want to have 
because you won't even make the 

994
00:47:39,700 --> 00:47:42,700
changes, you know what I mean in
your in your actual life. 

995
00:47:42,700 --> 00:47:45,600
You know, you're still going to 
have your job that allows you to

996
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,200
post epic. 
Fucking Leigh Reddick epic 

997
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,800
leftist quotes, all day and 
stuff like you, you know you 

998
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,900
anyways. 
Yeah. 

999
00:47:54,100 --> 00:47:57,200
Yeah, you have you have the 
people so I do think like yeah, 

1000
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,000
obviously in the eighties when 
you turn out the mental 

1001
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,500
institutions and just mix them 
into society, you know what I 

1002
00:48:02,500 --> 00:48:03,900
mean? 
And just pepper them in kind of 

1003
00:48:03,900 --> 00:48:05,900
like launder them in the sea. 
Of course, you're going to have 

1004
00:48:05,900 --> 00:48:08,900
a lot of violent crimes. 
A lot of people are not fit for 

1005
00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:11,100
one reason or another, whether 
their veteran, whether they're 

1006
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,000
on drugs. 
Not all, not all these people 

1007
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,600
are like, you know, my homeless 
takes down kind of harsh, I 

1008
00:48:15,607 --> 00:48:18,200
guess to our listeners sometimes
but like I don't necessarily 

1009
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,600
think it's all their fault, some
people it is. 

1010
00:48:20,700 --> 00:48:22,600
I mean is it just is some people
it is. 

1011
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,300
And I know some people 
unfortunately that are that 

1012
00:48:25,300 --> 00:48:27,200
we're just their own decisions, 
got them there. 

1013
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,700
But you know some of these 
people serve the country did 

1014
00:48:29,700 --> 00:48:32,300
other things like that and and 
for one reason or another stuff 

1015
00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:35,900
went wrong and it doesn't 
necessarily mean like go back 

1016
00:48:35,900 --> 00:48:38,600
and live your life in In 
society, so you do have to have 

1017
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,700
a place for these people that 
does cost money. 

1018
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,000
That does cost taxpayers. 
My, I mean, it is what it is and

1019
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,900
I hate that is an issue that you
have trouble with with the 

1020
00:48:45,900 --> 00:48:49,100
conservatives out here, talking 
to is like, okay. 

1021
00:48:49,300 --> 00:48:52,100
Where are you going to put them?
Sometimes the answer isn't 

1022
00:48:52,100 --> 00:48:54,100
something I even want to say 
right now, but like that's not a

1023
00:48:54,107 --> 00:48:56,500
feasible answer, right? 
Like the one, the one that weird

1024
00:48:56,500 --> 00:48:58,300
people are like, well, I know 
what to do with it, you know, 

1025
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,600
that's not a feasible answer. 
Like, that's, you have to have a

1026
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,800
place to put these people. 
The ones that are that the ones 

1027
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,800
that, you know, just aren't fit 
for society. 

1028
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,900
It's a is a pretty overwhelming 
percentage. 

1029
00:49:08,900 --> 00:49:14,700
Just optically from what I see 
and you you can't have both, 

1030
00:49:14,700 --> 00:49:16,400
right? 
You can't have the, you know, 

1031
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,600
Society where we get rid of all 
these, you know, over funded 

1032
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,000
institutions. 
Well, turns out, that one was 

1033
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,000
important and we write we 
learned over the last 40 years, 

1034
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,200
that it was very very important,
you know, to at least, at least 

1035
00:49:29,900 --> 00:49:34,100
two to just make people feel a 
little bit safer, right? 

1036
00:49:34,100 --> 00:49:38,700
I think the thing to that kid 
that Votives, particularly the 

1037
00:49:38,700 --> 00:49:41,600
Reagan's sort of conservative 
really like the free-market. 

1038
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:48,000
Conservatives, they Dodge blame 
on is that I think it's really 

1039
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,800
the, the marketization and the 
kind of the financialization 

1040
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,400
that Society is hugely 
responsible for sort of the 

1041
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,100
conditions that create 
homelessness. 

1042
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,900
I was talking to a few weeks 
ago. 

1043
00:50:00,900 --> 00:50:03,100
Now, this guy was like, he's 
like an urban myth that some 

1044
00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:06,700
professors studies like cities. 
We were talking about it and 

1045
00:50:06,700 --> 00:50:10,100
like You know, he's Armenian and
he was talking to how there are 

1046
00:50:10,100 --> 00:50:13,500
no homeless Armenian because 
Armenians have a really strong 

1047
00:50:13,500 --> 00:50:17,500
cult-like communities in La for 
example, like they really stick 

1048
00:50:17,500 --> 00:50:19,300
together. 
And so, if somebody's down on 

1049
00:50:19,300 --> 00:50:21,800
their luck or they're having, 
you know, emotional problems or 

1050
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,700
mental problems, like another 
Armenian family will take them 

1051
00:50:24,700 --> 00:50:27,100
in, right? 
They've got cousins and people 

1052
00:50:27,100 --> 00:50:30,200
there so that they're not, they 
don't often, they don't end up 

1053
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,100
homeless, the way that a lot of 
people do. 

1054
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,600
But a lot of the reason to why 
there's so much homelessness 

1055
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,900
today is because there's just 
no, like it's kind of a cultural

1056
00:50:39,900 --> 00:50:43,700
failure in some sense more than 
it is like an economic problem 

1057
00:50:43,700 --> 00:50:47,400
of, I don't know. 
Could we talk? 

1058
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:48,700
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1059
00:50:48,700 --> 00:50:51,000
So I just think there's an 
element to where it's like, you 

1060
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,300
know, Reagan and people like 
that. 

1061
00:50:52,300 --> 00:50:55,700
Who really pushed this sort of 
intense marketization. 

1062
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,800
They think there's no doubt that
the Liberals like Miss managed 

1063
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,600
it, but I think that that really
didn't help. 

1064
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,700
You know, I really that did not.
It did not help the situation, 

1065
00:51:06,700 --> 00:51:11,300
you know. yeah, and also the, 
you know, the thing is like the 

1066
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,800
A lot of, I think a lot of 
conservatives, they see well, 

1067
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,100
look at like what Jordan is, 
like, the third time and brought

1068
00:51:19,100 --> 00:51:21,100
him up. 
And it's like, all of these IDW 

1069
00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:24,000
guys, like, Jordan Pederson 
talks about like dominance 

1070
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,600
hierarchies all this time and 
stuff. 

1071
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,900
And so that's a huge part of 
like the conservative thinking 

1072
00:51:29,300 --> 00:51:31,800
is these innate dominance 
hierarchies, which I'm not 

1073
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,900
saying don't exist, but that's 
not part of the liberal ideology

1074
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,400
is dominance hierarchies. 
Right? 

1075
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,900
Right, but it is conservative 
thing. 

1076
00:51:39,900 --> 00:51:42,900
You kind of had this thing 
where, like, you I don't know. 

1077
00:51:42,908 --> 00:51:47,700
Maybe I'm straw Manning. 
Maybe I'm strong Manning these 

1078
00:51:47,700 --> 00:51:50,000
guys, but so, like, keep me in 
check here. 

1079
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:54,000
But, you know, a lot of the 
conservative ideology. 

1080
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,100
They, they see homeless as like,
like almost like less than human

1081
00:51:58,100 --> 00:52:01,900
a lot of times, right? 
And like the problem is like 

1082
00:52:01,900 --> 00:52:05,600
you, if you think that you're 
not going to be the guy to solve

1083
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,300
that problem, but then the 
liberal side sees everything 

1084
00:52:09,300 --> 00:52:11,700
that's fine and dandy and it's 
just, maybe it's just people. 

1085
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,000
Down on their luck or can't pay 
their rent or whatever. 

1086
00:52:14,300 --> 00:52:16,500
And so they're like too soft on 
it. 

1087
00:52:16,900 --> 00:52:19,600
And they don't see it as like, 
you know, like, you know, you 

1088
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,200
just can't have hard drugs as a 
society be rampant and not. 

1089
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,800
And it's like, yeah, you can 
select the fucking Chapo left. 

1090
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,700
This as your fucking DEA and be 
like, oh actually, it's fucking 

1091
00:52:29,700 --> 00:52:31,600
sick that he smokes meth. 
Yeah. 

1092
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:32,900
Yeah. 
Exactly. 

1093
00:52:32,900 --> 00:52:33,900
Yeah. 
And sick, dude. 

1094
00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:35,600
What you can't handle math or 
what? 

1095
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,600
Like, I mean, I'm think a lot of
people like our society. 

1096
00:52:39,100 --> 00:52:42,400
Like, just like, What's 
happening? 

1097
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,100
Like, you know, the the lower 
and middle middle class, you 

1098
00:52:46,100 --> 00:52:48,400
know, the financial 
opportunities for everyone keeps

1099
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,300
shrinking under that. 
This, this hierarchy thing keeps

1100
00:52:51,300 --> 00:52:56,300
exploding and we can't, you 
know, it's like part of our part

1101
00:52:56,300 --> 00:52:58,100
of humanity. 
Craves That We crave being 

1102
00:52:58,100 --> 00:53:00,500
better than other people, and 
whatever domain or whatever, 

1103
00:53:00,500 --> 00:53:04,800
kind of weird made up system and
rules that we have in this game 

1104
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,600
that we all play. 
So I think think it's fucked up.

1105
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:14,300
I like You know, subconsciously,
I think we almost like, I think,

1106
00:53:14,300 --> 00:53:17,100
I think a part of society. 
I'm not saying, like, all 

1107
00:53:17,100 --> 00:53:21,200
individual people or whatever, 
but we almost like the homeless 

1108
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:22,800
thing because at least we're 
better than someone. 

1109
00:53:22,900 --> 00:53:24,700
You know what I mean? 
Oh, yeah. 

1110
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,100
Yeah. 
And it's kind of fucked up and 

1111
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:28,600
it's ready. 
So I'm not that guy. 

1112
00:53:28,700 --> 00:53:30,600
Exactly. 
Yeah, and it's yeah, but there 

1113
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,100
should be like two of those guys
in town, though, you know, 

1114
00:53:33,100 --> 00:53:34,100
exactly. 
Yeah. 

1115
00:53:34,700 --> 00:53:36,600
Okay. 
When I was growing up, like, I 

1116
00:53:36,607 --> 00:53:38,900
grew up in the same place. 
So this is a good litmus to. 

1117
00:53:38,900 --> 00:53:42,600
I have lived in Same place like 
at least a six-mile radius of 

1118
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,100
it. 
So it's not like, it's like, you

1119
00:53:44,100 --> 00:53:47,400
know, it's not like, it's from 
another city and you. 

1120
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,200
So I heard from this no, like 
there were like I'm not saying 

1121
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,600
I'm against a to that's that's 
it was there was much more than 

1122
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,400
that but growing up, but like 
you kind of knew and they get 

1123
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,600
was like a novelty or like 
there's the hey, there's the guy

1124
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,100
he'll jump out of the Bush watch
out like, you know, like that. 

1125
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:04,200
It was the guy but now it's like
okay like dirt. 

1126
00:54:04,300 --> 00:54:07,100
And again, what maybe we can't 
we can't see Doyle the homeless 

1127
00:54:07,100 --> 00:54:08,600
thing, right? 
They can't be like, well, that's

1128
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,600
because of this, that's why 
there's homelessness know. 

1129
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,300
There's a lot of factors on why 
somebody looks like the fucking 

1130
00:54:15,300 --> 00:54:18,000
Mulholland Drive creature, that 
pops out behind the dumpster and

1131
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,400
scares you like, you know, 
there's a there's a long list. 

1132
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,800
Of reasons why human beings 
turned into that. 

1133
00:54:22,900 --> 00:54:27,500
And you know that it's a it's a 
failure as a society, you know, 

1134
00:54:27,500 --> 00:54:32,100
Democrat and Republican. 
But like I said, I would support

1135
00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:34,900
just. 
It's like, it sounds like in 

1136
00:54:34,900 --> 00:54:37,700
humidity like, putting them 
away, but it's like it's there. 

1137
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,600
The needs to be professionals 
that can deal with this. 

1138
00:54:39,700 --> 00:54:42,500
Like, it's what I will say to 
the conservatives is like, okay,

1139
00:54:42,500 --> 00:54:46,000
you can't just like have a 
hands-off approach to it. 

1140
00:54:46,300 --> 00:54:48,000
You know what I mean and 
expected to be chased like 

1141
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,400
you're going to have to invest 
in the problems. 

1142
00:54:50,500 --> 00:54:52,800
Already here. 
So you do have to somewhat spend

1143
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,900
your way out of it in a sense. 
You know what I mean? 

1144
00:54:54,900 --> 00:54:57,600
It doesn't, it isn't fucking, 
you know, give AOC a bunch of 

1145
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,100
money. 
It isn't like shit like that. 

1146
00:54:59,100 --> 00:55:01,400
I just mean, like, you're going 
to have to have people who can 

1147
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,300
at least, you know, they're down
to fund the police. 

1148
00:55:04,300 --> 00:55:06,400
All I'm saying is fun, fun that 
shit to, you know, I'm saying? 

1149
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,400
Like, that's right. 
That's the way I live there. 

1150
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,800
If they want to say, we need to 
have a higher police budget. 

1151
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,800
I don't necessarily even like 
hate that. 

1152
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,800
And, you know, I used to, I used
to be a take that used to irk me

1153
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,800
a lot, but I'm like, okay, I 
understand what you mean now, 

1154
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,200
but like you're going to have to
do that. 

1155
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,000
The same thing for these people 
that aren't The committing a 

1156
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,500
crime in the moment, but, you 
know, for a fact like this is 

1157
00:55:23,500 --> 00:55:26,400
just not the way a well-oiled 
machine doesn't run this way. 

1158
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,300
Let's get to the cause of it, 
you know, yeah. 

1159
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,900
Yep. 
Yeah, I have actually, your, 

1160
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,300
I'll tell a little person, this 
might be a little bit of a 

1161
00:55:34,308 --> 00:55:36,200
personal story. 
I was, do, you guys want because

1162
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,200
you're from Chicago, right now, 
right, correct? 

1163
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,500
Yeah, and I have so I have I was
semi-homeless for a little bit 

1164
00:55:43,500 --> 00:55:45,600
of time. 
In my earlier. 20s. 

1165
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:47,600
I don't know if it's Glenn. 
Did you ever? 

1166
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:48,700
You want to hear this crazy 
story? 

1167
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,400
It's pretty funny. 
I don't think I have. 

1168
00:55:50,500 --> 00:55:52,900
It's a, is this too personal for
the pot? 

1169
00:55:52,900 --> 00:55:54,200
I don't know. 
I don't want to fucking do it. 

1170
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,400
Yeah, I wasn't me. 
It's pretty funny. 

1171
00:55:57,700 --> 00:56:00,100
Definitely. 
It definitely wasn't like, like 

1172
00:56:00,100 --> 00:56:04,900
a whole destitute situation, you
know, like I was broke for sure 

1173
00:56:04,900 --> 00:56:07,700
like a but it wasn't like, I was
basically, I would be in 

1174
00:56:07,700 --> 00:56:10,600
Berkeley and I would be homeless
for like three, four days out of

1175
00:56:10,607 --> 00:56:13,600
the week and then I'd take the 
Bus and Train home and go back 

1176
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,600
and stay at my mom's place in 
like right, you know, over the 

1177
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,300
over the mountain, basically. 
And I because I was taking 

1178
00:56:20,500 --> 00:56:24,000
Fucking classes in Berkeley to. 
So I can go back to school. 

1179
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,700
Right? 
And I was like, whatever, this 

1180
00:56:26,700 --> 00:56:28,100
will be fun. 
It's Berkeley, you know, like 

1181
00:56:28,100 --> 00:56:30,000
what? 
Nothing bad will happen, right? 

1182
00:56:30,300 --> 00:56:33,500
And and like nothing really did,
you know, it's like it's pretty,

1183
00:56:33,500 --> 00:56:35,800
it's one of the chiller places 
to be homeless and I was, you 

1184
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,700
know, obviously I wasn't on 
drugs or anything like that. 

1185
00:56:37,700 --> 00:56:40,000
I was literally just like taking
classes and I was broke. 

1186
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,600
And I had nowhere to stay, you 
know, kind of thing. 

1187
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,200
I'm gonna let me Snopes that 
real fast. 

1188
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,200
Yes, you were on drugs, kind of?
Yes. 

1189
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:49,700
All right. 
Well it nasty. 

1190
00:56:53,700 --> 00:56:54,900
I remember it. 
Well, I just got to tell this 

1191
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,200
story but and then the Chicago 
comes comes into it, do in a 

1192
00:56:58,207 --> 00:57:02,200
little bit, but like everything 
was fine. 

1193
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,400
I just had a sleeping bag. 
I found a spot it was like 

1194
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,700
pretty chill and I had a gym 
membership at the University, 

1195
00:57:08,100 --> 00:57:10,200
you know, so I'd wake up 
literally like 6 a.m. 

1196
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,500
Before anyone came and just like
go work out and take a shower 

1197
00:57:13,900 --> 00:57:15,900
and like I had a credit card 
with like a thousand dollar 

1198
00:57:15,900 --> 00:57:17,600
limit. 
So I just buy like Indian food 

1199
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,300
once a day at the buffet and 
like Just Like Larry. 

1200
00:57:20,500 --> 00:57:23,500
And up like a credit card over 
like a semester, you know, and 

1201
00:57:24,300 --> 00:57:26,100
just like 12 bucks a pop and the
thing. 

1202
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,900
And as I Gorge myself and then 
one time, I have my sleeping bag

1203
00:57:29,900 --> 00:57:34,100
and I woke up and it was fucking
like it was like 5:30 like right

1204
00:57:34,100 --> 00:57:36,200
before the gym opened and it had
rained. 

1205
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:40,900
It was like a freak rain and I 
was so freezing and then I go 

1206
00:57:40,900 --> 00:57:42,400
into that. 
Like I waited for the Jimbo up 

1207
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,300
and I go into the gym and I look
in the mirror and I just started

1208
00:57:45,300 --> 00:57:47,400
laughing because like I was so 
cold. 

1209
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,300
My like my left I wouldn't even 
open. 

1210
00:57:49,300 --> 00:57:52,700
You know, it took like 15. 3:42 
into bucket and then like it was

1211
00:57:52,700 --> 00:57:54,500
like everything was all good, 
you know, but I was like, holy 

1212
00:57:54,500 --> 00:57:56,000
shit. 
This is the real bit. 

1213
00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:00,400
Like it's not just like, you 
know, like it s the weather gets

1214
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,700
bad, it can be fucked, you know,
and then I took the train 

1215
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:09,200
because I went back to school 
and I took the train back East 

1216
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,700
through Chicago. 
Like I did the whole like three 

1217
00:58:11,700 --> 00:58:15,700
day Journey kind of thing and 
and then I got off the train 

1218
00:58:15,700 --> 00:58:18,000
because of the Chicago is the 
One-Stop you had to switch 

1219
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,600
trains, you know, it was like 
the main Amtrak stop. 

1220
00:58:21,700 --> 00:58:24,800
So I got off and I was just a 
mess around Chicago for for like

1221
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:29,400
half a day in the middle of 
winter and and they're like, it 

1222
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,500
was like fucking freezing and 
the homeless. 

1223
00:58:31,500 --> 00:58:34,900
People look so sad and destitute
and here, I am coming from like 

1224
00:58:34,900 --> 00:58:35,400
Berkeley. 
Yeah. 

1225
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:36,800
I just was like, homeless, 
couple days. 

1226
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,300
Like it was cool man, you know, 
and then I got like, people 

1227
00:58:39,300 --> 00:58:42,200
begging me for quarters, like 
fucking freezing their ass off 

1228
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,900
and I was like, oh man, it's 
like a totally different vibe, 

1229
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,800
depending where you are, you 
know, being homeless, right? 

1230
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,300
It's like yeah, it works 
Berkeley homelessness. 

1231
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:51,800
Totally. 
So, it's easier. 

1232
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,400
Yeah, it's fucking yeah, it's 
like Bohemian. 

1233
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,000
Damn. 
Yeah, like that's just like, 

1234
00:58:58,300 --> 00:59:01,700
that's like like like one of 
those 90s like grunge movies or 

1235
00:59:01,700 --> 00:59:02,600
yeah. 
Yeah. 

1236
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,100
Yeah. 
That's I mean that's there and 

1237
00:59:04,100 --> 00:59:07,600
like oh, okay further prove my 
point Vindicated from the last 

1238
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:11,900
time like it was like, okay. 
I never I never even knew that 

1239
00:59:11,900 --> 00:59:14,100
about you. 
Yeah, you know I'm saying so 

1240
00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:16,700
like there's there's a thing, 
there's a diff. 

1241
00:59:16,700 --> 00:59:19,900
There's degrees of homelessness,
personal talk everybody 

1242
00:59:19,900 --> 00:59:21,800
pretends. 
That like, they're having an 

1243
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,000
argument about will know this 
is, this is the homeless person.

1244
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,500
I talked to, and we're all 
talking about the same one. 

1245
00:59:27,500 --> 00:59:29,000
Yes, his blood. 
So we're all talking about the 

1246
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,100
same ones. 
Yeah. 

1247
00:59:30,100 --> 00:59:32,100
I mean, what are we doing with 
those ones? 

1248
00:59:32,100 --> 00:59:35,500
That's the issue, you know, I 
mean, like it's not the fucking 

1249
00:59:35,700 --> 00:59:38,200
research chemical guy taking 
classes at Berkeley. 

1250
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:46,100
Yeah, it's not that guy, but it,
you know, it's, are you Hamilton

1251
00:59:46,100 --> 00:59:47,400
Morris? 
Yes. 

1252
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,700
I came out of my trip and then I
wasn't homeless. 

1253
00:59:52,700 --> 00:59:53,500
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1254
00:59:53,900 --> 00:59:54,600
Yeah. 
Okay. 

1255
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,400
No, this is legit fun. 
Safe for that one night, where 

1256
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,500
like, my, I wouldn't open 
doesn't even the rain was so 

1257
00:59:59,500 --> 01:00:03,000
fucking things in me like that. 
It was a, yeah, it was no 

1258
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,800
biggie. 
Yeah, exactly. 

1259
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,300
Yeah, then I literally went to 
Chicago and I like, I was sober.

1260
01:00:08,300 --> 01:00:10,200
Dude. 
I was like, holy fuck man. 

1261
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,300
This is like people die out here
on these streets. 

1262
01:00:12,300 --> 01:00:15,300
These, it's crazy. 
Yeah, get it gets cold. 

1263
01:00:15,300 --> 01:00:16,900
I mean, that's the thing about 
California, right? 

1264
01:00:16,900 --> 01:00:20,200
It's like, you got your, you 
know, Chapo daaa. 

1265
01:00:20,500 --> 01:00:22,700
You have been saying like 
whether right? 

1266
01:00:22,700 --> 01:00:25,000
Yes, the whole combo home game 
for you. 

1267
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,000
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1268
01:00:26,700 --> 01:00:28,500
Yeah. 
Yeah, it's wild. 

1269
01:00:29,100 --> 01:00:32,900
And yeah, so well, I had one 
last thing I had to talk to my 

1270
01:00:32,900 --> 01:00:35,300
fitness feelings but I think is 
actually the reason I like 

1271
01:00:35,500 --> 01:00:38,800
instantly reached out to him was
I found this this tweet but it 

1272
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:43,700
struck a nerve with me in a very
good way, you know, you, I was 

1273
01:00:43,700 --> 01:00:48,100
like the way you pop out you, 
you tweet like Kanye we're we're

1274
01:00:48,100 --> 01:00:49,500
like you're just like he's back.
He's back. 

1275
01:00:49,500 --> 01:00:50,200
Oh shit. 
Yeah. 

1276
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:51,800
Yeah, I mean, like, it's so 
cool. 

1277
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,800
You know, I mean, you've it's 
definitely a different style for

1278
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,800
sure, but just the rate and the 
tempo of it is like that. 

1279
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:04,000
But you had, you had basically 
said, I'll just read the Tweet 

1280
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,700
says, without God. 
It's impossible to reach a truly

1281
01:01:06,700 --> 01:01:10,000
skeptical position. 
You will always find yourself 

1282
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,600
attached to some unverifiable 
story about the material world. 

1283
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:18,100
The decline of religion was also
the end of skepticism. 

1284
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,800
This is interesting. 
This is really interesting to me

1285
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,400
and I just broke before it 
before I hand it over to you. 

1286
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,800
I just like, I've kind of come 
to that conclusion. 

1287
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:29,500
I am not that summed up a 
conclusion. 

1288
01:01:29,500 --> 01:01:33,900
I didn't know, I actually came 
to but I did, you know, and you 

1289
01:01:33,900 --> 01:01:37,600
know, it sounds kind of almost 
tired now to say it. 

1290
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,500
But like, you know, to just use 
even covid as a catch-all thing,

1291
01:01:40,500 --> 01:01:43,300
but like it kind of is to me. 
It kind of made me more in 

1292
01:01:43,300 --> 01:01:45,400
touch. 
I was raised Catholic and kind 

1293
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:50,000
of had a soured view on it. 
But after a while like, you know

1294
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,100
on Christmas, I actually like 
had covid and I couldn't see my 

1295
01:01:53,100 --> 01:01:55,900
family on Christmas because we 
all had it, you know, and 

1296
01:01:55,900 --> 01:01:58,000
they're just like we're just 
going to do it next week, you 

1297
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,300
know, and but I was just real 
lonely cause I'm real real tight

1298
01:02:01,300 --> 01:02:04,300
with my family. 
And so, you know, in the most 

1299
01:02:04,300 --> 01:02:07,400
like, 2022 way possible. 
I like turned on a YouTube. 

1300
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:11,600
I youtubed Catholic Church mass.
And I just, I found like this 

1301
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:12,800
really like awesome. 
One. 

1302
01:02:12,900 --> 01:02:16,800
The priest was really good. 
And I was just like holy shit. 

1303
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,600
Like I needed that you know, and
my wife had always been telling 

1304
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,400
me, I needed something like 
that, you know, and she's very 

1305
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:28,500
religious and but I felt that. 
But then I, you know, I always 

1306
01:02:28,500 --> 01:02:31,200
had this subconscious where I 
was like, well man, if I do get 

1307
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,100
back into like God, I'm just 
going to become this like 

1308
01:02:33,100 --> 01:02:35,900
fucking uniform, like straight 
arrow guy. 

1309
01:02:35,900 --> 01:02:38,100
That doesn't question anything 
around them and stuff and it's 

1310
01:02:38,100 --> 01:02:39,200
like, no, it's quite the 
opposite. 

1311
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,400
It heightened my skepticism. 
Like you just said, it's just 

1312
01:02:42,500 --> 01:02:44,900
like because you know for one 
you're not trying. 

1313
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:46,300
To solve everything in the 
world. 

1314
01:02:46,300 --> 01:02:48,700
That's the other thing. 
Like when you're when you are 

1315
01:02:48,700 --> 01:02:51,900
believing in something Beyond, 
you're 82 years of life 

1316
01:02:51,900 --> 01:02:56,300
expectancy expected on here. 
You do tend to be like, well, 

1317
01:02:56,300 --> 01:02:58,700
okay, like, you know, look at 
look at people who are 

1318
01:02:58,700 --> 01:03:01,000
constantly trying to optimize 
the way they look or how they're

1319
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,600
referred to, you know, as a big,
big thing. 

1320
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,800
Now, not trying to get down, 
they all now, but I don't know 

1321
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,000
if and then they definitely 
don't want to hear this, but I 

1322
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,900
don't know if those people I 
don't know if those people go 

1323
01:03:13,900 --> 01:03:16,500
down that path knowing that 
there's a greater picture. 

1324
01:03:16,500 --> 01:03:18,300
You know what I mean, knowing 
there's a bigger picture. 

1325
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,100
You don't want it. 
You're not that you're not on 

1326
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:22,300
this hourglass thing, where it's
like, well, I'm going to die. 

1327
01:03:22,900 --> 01:03:24,900
I could die whenever. 
So I need this to happen, you 

1328
01:03:24,900 --> 01:03:28,600
know, and and you know, but I 
need to I need if I'm given 82 

1329
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,900
years on this Earth. 
I need to optimize every single 

1330
01:03:30,900 --> 01:03:33,600
moment. 
And for me, it made me much more

1331
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,900
of a skeptic, but it also made 
me at peace with my flaws, you 

1332
01:03:36,900 --> 01:03:40,400
know, and stuff like that. 
Yeah, like I'm kind of, I'm kind

1333
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:41,400
of me, you know what I mean? 
This. 

1334
01:03:41,700 --> 01:03:44,900
Is me? 
Yeah, and yeah, I'm not saying 

1335
01:03:44,900 --> 01:03:47,000
any one religion. 
I'm not one of those people. 

1336
01:03:47,100 --> 01:03:49,900
I'm not saying we need a 
Christian Society, any of that 

1337
01:03:49,900 --> 01:03:51,600
stuff, but I think you need to 
believe in something other than 

1338
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:53,700
what the fuck is running this 
country right now. 

1339
01:03:53,700 --> 01:03:56,200
Like these people who are just 
on like a Death Race, like a 

1340
01:03:56,200 --> 01:04:00,400
death spiral or and and they're 
constantly trying to buy time to

1341
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,700
where they can create like a 
transhumanist society and 

1342
01:04:02,700 --> 01:04:06,600
something and then you know that
kind of just like bypasses God 

1343
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:08,500
and yeah, Bill Gates isn't 
Catholic. 

1344
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,100
He's not fucking muslim. 
You know what I mean? 

1345
01:04:10,100 --> 01:04:11,600
He's not, he's not fucking 
these. 

1346
01:04:11,700 --> 01:04:13,700
And in shit, exactly. 
So yeah. 

1347
01:04:13,700 --> 01:04:16,600
Anyway, that right, that one 
struck a nerve with me. 

1348
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:19,500
I was like man, I all sudden 
like my got like anime Homer 

1349
01:04:19,500 --> 01:04:22,100
Simpson anime eyes. 
Like we're like my eyes, just 

1350
01:04:22,100 --> 01:04:24,900
like my pupils got really big. 
I just fucking lost myself, like

1351
01:04:24,900 --> 01:04:27,400
5 Seconds, thinking about that. 
Damn. 

1352
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,300
Well, I'm glad I'm glad to hear 
it. 

1353
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,900
I'm not I yeah, I kind of I mean
I had sort of any similar 

1354
01:04:32,900 --> 01:04:37,400
experience during covid, I 
guess, rediscovering religion, I

1355
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:41,500
guess and I am speaking. 
There's a guy. 

1356
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,000
His name is Paul tillich. 
I ain't you dead now, but he was

1357
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:49,600
a theologian or something in the
20th century, but I was thinking

1358
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,300
like him, people think about 
faith, right? 

1359
01:04:51,300 --> 01:04:55,600
They live a couple things one. 
I think people think about faith

1360
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,600
is it's just like, oh, it's just
like a belief in something but I

1361
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:02,000
think it is that but I think 
it's more of an ass and he 

1362
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:07,100
describes Faith as an ultimate 
concern and sort of like a 

1363
01:05:07,500 --> 01:05:13,000
orientation of your, you didn't 
say being Right towards, you 

1364
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,800
know, something. 
And you know, it could be God's 

1365
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,800
right, but it'll offer a lot of 
people these days. 

1366
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:23,200
Like you're saying it's not, you
know, it's the nation or science

1367
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:27,400
or you know, what I've learned 
is harassing Ukraine, or it 

1368
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,600
could just be even like people, 
you know, that are obsessed with

1369
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:34,500
like, you know, competing and 
getting status in the light, you

1370
01:05:34,500 --> 01:05:38,900
know, economy of whatever, 
trying to move up the chain, but

1371
01:05:38,900 --> 01:05:40,600
the ladder, you know, and so 
forth. 

1372
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,800
I think it's if you think about 
that, but you've got like two 

1373
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,700
things. 
So you have you have the faith 

1374
01:05:46,700 --> 01:05:49,300
of the person, you have the 
orientation or the concern to 

1375
01:05:49,300 --> 01:05:52,000
the person, and then on the 
other hand, you have what that 

1376
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:55,500
states is being placed in. 
And if you're, if you put your 

1377
01:05:55,500 --> 01:06:00,900
faith in God, what you have is a
relation between a finite being,

1378
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:04,200
like, you know, a few men, whose
then experiencing something 

1379
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,000
infinite, right? 
Like Mystics would call that 

1380
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,100
like, or we can refer to that 
almost, as like, God 

1381
01:06:10,100 --> 01:06:12,400
experiencing. 
Right? 

1382
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,200
And you can almost like lose 
yourself in that a little bit. 

1383
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,600
You can become a part, feel like
you're kind of a kind of like, a

1384
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:22,500
part of something, greater it. 
You kind of overcome the 

1385
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,500
subject-object, distinction, a 
little bit. 

1386
01:06:25,700 --> 01:06:29,700
But like, for people who don't 
Orient themselves towards God, 

1387
01:06:29,900 --> 01:06:31,800
right? 
Like you're putting your faith 

1388
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,800
in something that's basically 
finite, like it may be bigger 

1389
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:36,400
than you. 
You know what I mean, like, 

1390
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:40,500
science is bigger than me, but 
he's ultimately it's not 

1391
01:06:40,500 --> 01:06:41,500
infinite, right? 
Like it. 

1392
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,900
Going to run out, like, at some 
point, you're going to exhaust 

1393
01:06:44,900 --> 01:06:46,900
that resource. 
No matter how good it feels at 

1394
01:06:46,900 --> 01:06:49,400
first. 
And when you do exhaust it, 

1395
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,800
you're going to be disappointed 
in alienated, right? 

1396
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,200
Which is always, it's why you 
have to keep having these 

1397
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:58,200
current things because, you 
know, it only goes so far. 

1398
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,800
You got to move on to something 
else and I feel like people 

1399
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:07,200
today, they You know, it's like 
each time you get disappointed, 

1400
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,200
you know, you either become 
really cynical right? 

1401
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:14,700
Or you become just almost like 
more obsessively attached to 

1402
01:07:14,700 --> 01:07:17,700
each new thing. 
That's not good. 

1403
01:07:17,700 --> 01:07:20,800
Like neither of those things 
really is good for me. 

1404
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:24,500
What I discovered is that, you 
know, I've been able to I'm kind

1405
01:07:24,500 --> 01:07:27,800
of I'm kind of cynical person. 
I would say I'm definitely a 

1406
01:07:27,808 --> 01:07:31,500
skeptical person, but I'm only 
really able to maintain that 

1407
01:07:31,500 --> 01:07:35,700
because I I do believe that 
there is something higher. 

1408
01:07:35,700 --> 01:07:38,700
There's something more than this
life. 

1409
01:07:38,700 --> 01:07:42,200
And so it's I'm not it helps 
just to kind of not be so 

1410
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,800
attached to all these things, 
you know, all these things that 

1411
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:50,500
kind of come up it it's really 
very it's very comforting. 

1412
01:07:50,500 --> 01:07:53,300
You know, it's very comforting 
in a way that I think a lot of 

1413
01:07:53,300 --> 01:07:58,300
other stuff, you know, it really
is no and you go through I think

1414
01:07:58,300 --> 01:08:01,500
what you brought up about like 
constantly the current thing 

1415
01:08:01,500 --> 01:08:05,900
being the new deity that you or 
I think what what so important 

1416
01:08:05,900 --> 01:08:10,000
about that is that It. 
They are finite and that you do 

1417
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:16,300
watch them die and you know, you
can see certain people who maybe

1418
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,000
maybe check out after a while, 
right? 

1419
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:20,899
And that's that's the word. 
I mean, that's that's like kind 

1420
01:08:20,899 --> 01:08:23,200
of the end game at least in your
mind is kind of just checking 

1421
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:25,100
out and saying like nothing 
matters anymore. 

1422
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:29,899
But when you have something, you
know, infinite in your life, you

1423
01:08:29,899 --> 01:08:32,200
can never actually fully check 
out right now. 

1424
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,399
You can now you can know that 
maybe your life is in someone 

1425
01:08:34,399 --> 01:08:36,800
else's hands or at least your 
destiny is in someone else's 

1426
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:37,899
hands, but that doesn't 
necessarily. 

1427
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:41,000
Really mean you don't care, you 
know, but for some of these 

1428
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:42,800
people, when you've watched, 
okay, oh man burn it. 

1429
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,300
I thought we were going to get 
socialism. 

1430
01:08:44,300 --> 01:08:47,000
Oh man, that's gone. 
Now like, you know, that kind of

1431
01:08:47,008 --> 01:08:49,200
follows that path where like all
of a sudden you just become. 

1432
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,500
This guy who doesn't care about 
anything that happens anymore. 

1433
01:08:51,500 --> 01:08:54,899
And is it even happening? 
I don't know who cares where 

1434
01:08:54,899 --> 01:08:57,500
Bernie losses and you become 
obsessed with Coco because you 

1435
01:08:57,508 --> 01:09:01,000
have nothing else in your legs. 
And yeah, which way right? 

1436
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,600
They're both horrible, right? 
I mean like it's like which is 

1437
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:07,700
like a Choose Your Own Adventure
type thing and and that and it's

1438
01:09:07,700 --> 01:09:10,899
like Like I don't even harp on 
like so much having it being 

1439
01:09:10,899 --> 01:09:12,100
God. 
I mean, that's what it is for 

1440
01:09:12,100 --> 01:09:16,000
me. 
But, you know, I, you know, tie 

1441
01:09:16,300 --> 01:09:18,700
any of our older listeners, 
we've had some wild things about

1442
01:09:18,700 --> 01:09:21,200
extraterrestrials and stuff that
we talked about and things like 

1443
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:22,500
that. 
Like, it doesn't have to be that

1444
01:09:22,500 --> 01:09:25,800
but like, I am in the same way. 
That's I said a couple episodes 

1445
01:09:25,899 --> 01:09:29,800
that you might have somebody 
who's like a carnivore or like 

1446
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:33,500
some hardcore like paleo guy or 
health experiment guy, you might

1447
01:09:33,500 --> 01:09:35,500
even as a person who's on the 
complete opposite, end of the 

1448
01:09:35,508 --> 01:09:36,800
spectrum. 
You might get a little horseshoe

1449
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:37,899
Theory. 
Yeah. 

1450
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,100
And be like, II, at least 
identify with that thought 

1451
01:09:40,100 --> 01:09:42,700
pattern, I can identify with 
somebody who might believe 

1452
01:09:42,700 --> 01:09:45,500
anything. 
But just has, you know, and on 

1453
01:09:45,500 --> 01:09:49,300
the conversely, like, I believe 
more of these anti-religion 

1454
01:09:49,300 --> 01:09:51,899
types, like Sam, Sam Harris 
etcetera. 

1455
01:09:52,399 --> 01:09:56,400
If they didn't exhibit religious
thinking and every other aspect.

1456
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,800
Yeah, there was more than one. 
It's a void that is inevitable. 

1457
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,900
It's a void that know you, you 
either have something in the 

1458
01:10:02,900 --> 01:10:06,300
void or you or there's a fucking
cavernous hole that you 

1459
01:10:06,300 --> 01:10:08,800
constantly are like putting 
these like, Like disposable 

1460
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,500
things and you know, I mean, 
yeah. 

1461
01:10:10,900 --> 01:10:14,800
Yeah and I think too it says 
that this weird element where 

1462
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:19,700
it's sort of like the more you 
resist that the more it controls

1463
01:10:19,700 --> 01:10:21,400
you, you're right. 
It's always like the people that

1464
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,400
are not like, I mean these new 
atheist. 

1465
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,500
There have are more religious 
seeming to me than most 

1466
01:10:26,500 --> 01:10:28,800
religious people that I know, 
right? 

1467
01:10:28,900 --> 01:10:31,500
And the end and yet they're 
constantly talking about how 

1468
01:10:31,500 --> 01:10:34,300
religion is bad and how they are
transcending it and all this 

1469
01:10:34,300 --> 01:10:35,300
stuff. 
Yeah. 

1470
01:10:35,500 --> 01:10:37,600
And yeah, that's it. 
Definitely. 

1471
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:39,200
Yeah. 
Like any covid, right? 

1472
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:43,700
It's like, but that I think 
really is such a key point that 

1473
01:10:43,700 --> 01:10:46,700
they don't get, is that the 
position of the position of 

1474
01:10:46,700 --> 01:10:49,100
these people is always a 
physician of like, essentially, 

1475
01:10:49,100 --> 01:10:51,900
false, Transcendence. 
Like they always think that they

1476
01:10:51,900 --> 01:10:55,000
found the way out of this, you 
know, right. 

1477
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,300
But like, that is this right, 
like that. 

1478
01:10:57,300 --> 01:11:00,200
Just is what everyone who's in 
that thing stinks, that they are

1479
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,500
the ones that kind of escaped. 
It. 

1480
01:11:02,500 --> 01:11:05,600
I think the closest you get to 
escaping it by realizing. 

1481
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:09,800
This is maybe sounds a little 
Then I'm sorry, but it is really

1482
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,600
what I believe is it like you 
can't really Escape it. 

1483
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:17,700
It just kind of have to kind of 
embrace that Embrace that more 

1484
01:11:17,700 --> 01:11:21,100
than like fighting it tooth and 
nail and then by embracing it 

1485
01:11:21,100 --> 01:11:23,500
you kind of get a little 
Freedom. 

1486
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:25,000
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1487
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,800
I know you like Ricky Gervais 
literally still does comedy with

1488
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,800
fucking like a thorn crown of 
thorns on and he's like, I'm 

1489
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,900
Jesus see doesn't matter. 
It's like do your fucking like 

1490
01:11:33,900 --> 01:11:37,800
55 years old, you know, I mean 
like and and he can't stop. 

1491
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,100
That, you know what? 
I mean, like, I cannot stop 

1492
01:11:40,100 --> 01:11:41,600
doing that. 
I mean he could if he actually 

1493
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,300
did that, but like he's always 
gonna have to fill that like 

1494
01:11:44,300 --> 01:11:49,200
void of just like, you know, 
fighting nature essentially, you

1495
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:53,300
know what I mean, like, fighting
human nature to which, you know,

1496
01:11:53,300 --> 01:11:57,900
and people always think, you 
know, all there's this cabal of 

1497
01:11:57,900 --> 01:12:01,400
like Evangelical Christians that
run the, that are still, like, 

1498
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:02,800
running things. 
Like, if you talk to like some, 

1499
01:12:02,900 --> 01:12:05,400
you know, like people in their 
40s, like lives in their 40s and

1500
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,800
50s, they still think like 
Evangelical Christians. 

1501
01:12:07,900 --> 01:12:12,300
I call the shots in America and 
it's like, nah, crazy. 

1502
01:12:13,500 --> 01:12:14,800
Stop it. 
You know what I mean? 

1503
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,600
Like just you there is nothing 
that is going on. 

1504
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,900
I mean, like, you know, you see 
the way culture is like and and,

1505
01:12:20,900 --> 01:12:23,600
and the fact is also to just 
even some kind of like, you 

1506
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,600
know, it keeps you disciplined, 
right? 

1507
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,500
Like he's being religious about 
something. 

1508
01:12:28,500 --> 01:12:31,100
Keeps you disciplined, right? 
Unless it's the current thing, 

1509
01:12:31,100 --> 01:12:32,300
right? 
Because I know people who have 

1510
01:12:32,300 --> 01:12:34,900
changed their politics three or 
four times in the last like two 

1511
01:12:34,900 --> 01:12:37,800
years man like, you know, and 
not in a good way. 

1512
01:12:38,100 --> 01:12:41,400
Refining, not just like learning
more, but just constantly like 

1513
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,500
playing Simon Says like, oh, 
this is okay. 

1514
01:12:43,500 --> 01:12:44,500
We're doing this. 
Yeah, cool. 

1515
01:12:44,500 --> 01:12:48,500
Cool, you know, and, and that 
is, I think truly. 

1516
01:12:48,500 --> 01:12:53,000
Now, like an agnostic Society is
kind of the easiest way to do 

1517
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:56,500
authoritarianism. 
Oh, yeah, you know, yeah, I'd 

1518
01:12:56,500 --> 01:12:58,400
like people that, you know, 
you're always sold in the past. 

1519
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,000
No, man, like, you know, of 
course, like if you had like a 

1520
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,900
religious fanatic Society like 
yeah, probably, you know, I mean

1521
01:13:03,900 --> 01:13:06,500
like you can probably control it
that way too, but like I don't 

1522
01:13:06,500 --> 01:13:09,400
know in 2022 that you. 
At that anymore just because 

1523
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:10,900
we're not homogeneous and stuff 
like that. 

1524
01:13:10,900 --> 01:13:13,700
You're never going to get 
everybody to believe ya Tink, 

1525
01:13:13,700 --> 01:13:16,000
but you can get a lot of people 
to just not believe what they 

1526
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,600
were raised on. 
Well, no, you yeah. 

1527
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:20,900
We're in the 21st. 
What I like about what's 

1528
01:13:20,900 --> 01:13:24,000
happening now, is you guys 
follow Rupert sheldrake at all, 

1529
01:13:24,100 --> 01:13:29,200
you know, you / sheldrake. 
He's like the scientist but he's

1530
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,600
he's Christian who, you know, he
did the whole in a path went 

1531
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:36,800
back to, you know, when from 
atheist and then even India and 

1532
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:38,300
then, you know, dude, all that 
thing. 

1533
01:13:38,300 --> 01:13:43,900
And what I like movies happening
now is is Yeah, he's a great. 

1534
01:13:43,900 --> 01:13:46,400
I love that guy. 
British guy British chat, but he

1535
01:13:47,900 --> 01:13:51,800
what I like what's happening 
now, like I see spirituality, 

1536
01:13:52,100 --> 01:13:58,400
as, you know, having your own 
experiences of Life, broadly, 

1537
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,200
put your own mystical 
experiences. 

1538
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,100
You're not here, not hearing it 
from someone else. 

1539
01:14:02,100 --> 01:14:04,000
You're not. 
Yeah, you know, you're listening

1540
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,300
to your own intuition, you're 
having your own experiences, you

1541
01:14:06,300 --> 01:14:10,100
know, be it in meditation or or 
whatever, you know, and just for

1542
01:14:10,100 --> 01:14:11,900
the record. 
I'm largely like I would 

1543
01:14:11,900 --> 01:14:17,700
consider my My favorite little 
niche is Taoism but I do I do 

1544
01:14:18,100 --> 01:14:21,000
and you know, yeah. 
Yeah, it's rad right partly 

1545
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:24,600
because it's so it's just so out
there but it's also so 

1546
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:29,500
practically soothing to yes. 
Also, it's also not butting 

1547
01:14:29,500 --> 01:14:31,500
heads with what you currently 
will, exactly. 

1548
01:14:31,500 --> 01:14:34,000
Yeah, there's no, I mean, only a
little bit, maybe here and there

1549
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:35,900
if you want to get nitpicky, but
like not really. 

1550
01:14:35,900 --> 01:14:38,500
You can do, you can incorporate 
that if you're not if you're 

1551
01:14:38,500 --> 01:14:40,700
open, you know, and yeah 
incorporate that into pretty 

1552
01:14:40,700 --> 01:14:42,800
much anything that you believe 
plus those guys. 

1553
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:47,200
Masters mastered how to live a 
human life like longevity. 

1554
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,300
And you know what herbs to take 
just all the like the actual 

1555
01:14:50,300 --> 01:14:54,300
practical things, you know, but 
what I like what's happening now

1556
01:14:54,300 --> 01:14:58,300
is like there's this whole if 
you look at what science science

1557
01:14:58,300 --> 01:15:00,100
is littered trust science, 
right? 

1558
01:15:00,100 --> 01:15:03,000
It's the new fucking trust. 
Just just trust me bro. 

1559
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:06,600
Like as a priest like just, you 
know, you're five years old, 

1560
01:15:06,700 --> 01:15:07,800
take your pants off in front of 
me. 

1561
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:09,900
Don't tell your parents. 
Just trust me cat, you know, 

1562
01:15:09,900 --> 01:15:11,400
Catholic priests kind of vibe, 
right? 

1563
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,000
It's like, that's a little 
one-sided. 

1564
01:15:13,100 --> 01:15:15,600
This is literally molesting us 
and focus is a weird. 

1565
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:20,300
Take medicine. 
That are social promotion team 

1566
01:15:20,300 --> 01:15:24,600
to put that on a thumbnail 
because science is molesting me 

1567
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,300
and it won't stop. 
Yeah. 

1568
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:28,900
Okay. 
No, you know what I'm saying, 

1569
01:15:28,900 --> 01:15:30,500
though, right? 
Where it's like, come on. 

1570
01:15:30,500 --> 01:15:33,200
Like why? 
What are we trusting here? 

1571
01:15:33,300 --> 01:15:35,400
You know, and it's like, is it 
evidence? 

1572
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:38,800
Because that's not what does 
know, maybe the yeah, exactly. 

1573
01:15:39,100 --> 01:15:42,500
So what I like, what's happening
now is there seems to be. 

1574
01:15:42,500 --> 01:15:46,000
Yeah, like, Most people that I, 
that I dint are, and I think it 

1575
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,100
does take some courage to 
identify as religious, in 

1576
01:15:48,100 --> 01:15:51,400
today's society. 
It's absolutely, you know, where

1577
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:55,200
it's like, where most it's 
almost like the not like it's 

1578
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:57,700
countercultural or anything but 
it's where so it is. 

1579
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:01,800
What ya say that where it's like
in the states that us three live

1580
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:02,700
in. 
Yeah, for sure. 

1581
01:16:02,900 --> 01:16:06,000
Yeah. 
We're we're if you do so, it's 

1582
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:09,000
almost like a sign. 
It's almost more of a sign. 

1583
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,400
If you've, if you've circled 
around, it's almost a more sign 

1584
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:15,300
that your Open minded and you're
willing to explore other things.

1585
01:16:15,300 --> 01:16:18,000
Yeah, and a lot of what's going 
on today, you know? 

1586
01:16:18,100 --> 01:16:19,100
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1587
01:16:19,100 --> 01:16:22,600
I think the other thing too, is 
it really any religion? 

1588
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:27,300
Like it would have taoism or 
Christianity or Islam, it? 

1589
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,500
Yeah, you can kind of use it 
like with people up until a 

1590
01:16:30,500 --> 01:16:33,500
frenzy or try to send them off 
against somebody else, but it's 

1591
01:16:33,500 --> 01:16:35,900
pretty established for. 
I like there's a book there or 

1592
01:16:35,900 --> 01:16:38,000
there's books and there's like 
interpretations. 

1593
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:41,400
You can't just make it all up 
but now the biggest Lillian's 

1594
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,900
events like a new thing like a 
Plea new thing that perfectly 

1595
01:16:44,900 --> 01:16:48,100
serve their tailored little 
interest at any given time. 

1596
01:16:48,100 --> 01:16:50,500
And you could just couldn't do 
that in the past. 

1597
01:16:50,500 --> 01:16:52,600
Like it wasn't just wasn't 
possible. 

1598
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:56,600
And that's it's a lot more 
effective and just dangerous to 

1599
01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:00,700
I think honestly, yeah, and I 
mean, I'll be real dude. 

1600
01:17:00,700 --> 01:17:03,500
I think there's an issue. 
There was a big push on 

1601
01:17:03,500 --> 01:17:06,600
churches, early from covid, for 
that reason, for sure. 

1602
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:10,200
One of the first one of the 
first things that you saw when, 

1603
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:12,900
like, everybody. 
Even like everybody was really 

1604
01:17:13,100 --> 01:17:16,600
Scared of just the virus itself 
was just like these fucking 

1605
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:18,800
conservatives won't stop going 
to their churches. 

1606
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,500
Like and you know, you see the 
videos of like in like Poland 

1607
01:17:21,500 --> 01:17:24,000
and stuff, where they couldn't 
do go to church and like people 

1608
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:25,100
are breaking it up and it's 
tough. 

1609
01:17:25,100 --> 01:17:27,200
It's like, amen. 
People start talking in those 

1610
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,200
communities. 
People like-minded people. 

1611
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:33,200
They start talking to each other
and they could probably come to 

1612
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:37,200
the conclusion a lot earlier 
than, you know, the Saturday 

1613
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,100
Night Live sketch that sketch 
that came out where they 

1614
01:17:39,100 --> 01:17:40,600
admitted. 
It was all bullshit, you know, 

1615
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:42,100
couple months ago. 
I'm boring. 

1616
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,600
You know, I you'll Get, you'll 
get the news a little bit easier

1617
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:46,100
there because, you know, you 
have to get rid of all 

1618
01:17:46,100 --> 01:17:48,400
communities and I think some of 
the strongest communities, 

1619
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,500
whether you believe in a good or
bad way, whatever your view on 

1620
01:17:50,500 --> 01:17:52,000
religion is. 
Some of the strongest 

1621
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,000
communities are the religious 
communities. 

1622
01:17:54,300 --> 01:17:56,800
Yeah, they are. 
And the other thing about 

1623
01:17:56,900 --> 01:18:02,000
religion is like, you really 
believe there's a heaven or that

1624
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,500
there's some kind of your 
Buddhist that you're going to, 

1625
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:07,100
you know, you can reach 
Enlightenment, or reincarnation 

1626
01:18:07,100 --> 01:18:09,300
or you know, whatever your thing
is, right? 

1627
01:18:09,300 --> 01:18:11,400
Or aliens are going to, you 
know, being you up. 

1628
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:16,900
I mean, That guess there's that 
something more than just mere 

1629
01:18:16,900 --> 01:18:19,400
existence, you know, like iron 
Berg. 

1630
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:24,000
I think it was the bomb, been 
criticized, the pope for like 

1631
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:27,200
quarantining and like, you know,
wearing a mask and like not like

1632
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:31,000
seeing anyone or whatever. 
It's kind of like, you know, the

1633
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,700
religious attitude or like a 
spiritual attitude is kind of 

1634
01:18:33,700 --> 01:18:36,300
like, your, I mean, okay, maybe 
you're going to get sick and 

1635
01:18:36,300 --> 01:18:38,200
die, but if you really think 
that you're going to go to 

1636
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,600
heaven, like you're literally 
the pope, you know, like maybe 

1637
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:42,900
like maybe you shouldn't be. 
So. 

1638
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,400
So worried about that, right? 
And that's kind of like that's a

1639
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:47,700
valid choice. 
I think that people can make 

1640
01:18:47,700 --> 01:18:50,900
it's like, okay, maybe I would 
rather go to my church or my 

1641
01:18:50,900 --> 01:18:54,300
like, weird UFO meeting or 
whatever it is and just died and

1642
01:18:54,300 --> 01:18:58,200
take my chances and leave you 
here forever, you know, and I 

1643
01:18:58,208 --> 01:19:00,900
believe that there's something 
more important than just 

1644
01:19:00,900 --> 01:19:06,300
existing in a fucking pod. 
Yeah, and that's why I have, 

1645
01:19:06,900 --> 01:19:10,900
I've always in my past, I and I 
think this is a little genetic 

1646
01:19:10,900 --> 01:19:12,900
because I think a lot of people 
in my family do this, too. 

1647
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:16,900
It like I've always kind of like
clowned on people like for being

1648
01:19:16,900 --> 01:19:19,100
like super into certain things. 
Like even though myself. 

1649
01:19:19,100 --> 01:19:20,900
I'm like a rabbit sports fan, 
but like, you know certain 

1650
01:19:20,900 --> 01:19:23,400
things about how somebody into 
that shit, you know laughing. 

1651
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,400
But now I've come to realize 
that if I find somebody that's 

1652
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:30,600
into literally anything like 
just into it earnestly not doing

1653
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:34,000
a bit, not like liking this 
ironically and stuff like no 

1654
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:35,200
they just get really into it. 
What? 

1655
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,000
I don't care. 
Peyton Warhammer dolls and 

1656
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,300
Shadow. 
I don't care. 

1657
01:19:39,300 --> 01:19:42,800
Like, even if I can't understand
the appeal of that product. 

1658
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:46,200
I tend to just like, seeing 
somebody enjoy something 

1659
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,200
earnestly because I think 
especially as like, men were 

1660
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,800
supposed to not care and just 
kind of like detached from 

1661
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:52,000
everything. 
That's okay. 

1662
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:55,000
So what you just brought up is 
what I tweeted about this, but I

1663
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,700
wanted to bring this up the last
pot especially with the, the 

1664
01:19:57,700 --> 01:20:00,200
plant-based thing that with 
Serena that we're talking about 

1665
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,300
how there's like an attack on 
sincerity. 

1666
01:20:02,300 --> 01:20:06,300
Now all, we're like, I hate it. 
I fucking hate this where, like 

1667
01:20:06,300 --> 01:20:07,800
if you're into something that's 
cringe. 

1668
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,300
If you're into anything it's 
cringe, you know, and it's like,

1669
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:11,700
who was it? 
That said they liked that about 

1670
01:20:11,700 --> 01:20:12,800
this like you don't, you're not 
either. 

1671
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,000
Like you guys aren't like ironic
and stuff. 

1672
01:20:15,100 --> 01:20:16,400
I'm like, oh my god. 
Oh, yeah. 

1673
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:17,700
Mike. 
I just like, never. 

1674
01:20:17,700 --> 01:20:20,700
I mean like we might make jokes.
Yeah, but like, yeah, it's like,

1675
01:20:20,700 --> 01:20:22,500
we're not. 
Yeah, it's not. 

1676
01:20:22,500 --> 01:20:24,700
It's like, it's me and you. 
Yeah. 

1677
01:20:24,700 --> 01:20:26,000
Yeah. 
I think, I think we're always 

1678
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,300
out on that shit where it's like
exciting corny. 

1679
01:20:28,300 --> 01:20:30,000
You know, it's weird. 
Yeah, it's weird. 

1680
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,700
And yeah, you're right. 
It's just like a war on 

1681
01:20:32,700 --> 01:20:37,700
sincerity and I think that, you 
know, just just be like into 

1682
01:20:37,700 --> 01:20:38,900
what you're into man. 
Like this. 

1683
01:20:38,900 --> 01:20:41,200
Just like this, just immerse 
yourself in it, man. 

1684
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:46,400
Because like this, this Is 
nihilistic like, you know, just 

1685
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,600
covid turning everyone into like
this insane alcoholic inside 

1686
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:52,900
their house and and just 
watching whatever's on TV and 

1687
01:20:52,900 --> 01:20:54,200
stuff. 
Like that's, that's not the way 

1688
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:57,300
everybody knows even the lives. 
Now, we're going to use it as 

1689
01:20:57,300 --> 01:20:59,900
like their fitness journey after
this shit, you know, I mean like

1690
01:20:59,900 --> 01:21:02,300
they're going to be like, oh I 
spent two years inside 

1691
01:21:02,300 --> 01:21:05,100
faithfully and now I'm back on 
it, you know, like there you're 

1692
01:21:05,100 --> 01:21:06,200
going to start seeing all that 
stuff. 

1693
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:07,900
Now everyone knows that's not 
the way to live. 

1694
01:21:08,100 --> 01:21:10,500
So fill the void with something 
constructive and it can be a 

1695
01:21:10,500 --> 01:21:11,800
lot. 
You know, I'm not even going to 

1696
01:21:11,808 --> 01:21:14,200
tell you, it's got to be this. 
Thing either, you know, and 

1697
01:21:14,500 --> 01:21:17,400
it's, it's just II. 
Think what? 

1698
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:20,200
You know, as you said beautiful 
in the thread, like get religion

1699
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:22,300
a try, if you haven't already, 
even if you're a little jaded 

1700
01:21:22,300 --> 01:21:24,700
from your childhood, do it on 
your terms, because a lot of 

1701
01:21:24,700 --> 01:21:27,400
times people don't like, you 
know, religion and stuff because

1702
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:28,700
they're, they fucking were 
forced to it. 

1703
01:21:28,700 --> 01:21:30,700
The same thing with reading I 
had to, I had to teach myself 

1704
01:21:30,700 --> 01:21:32,800
how to I've had to teach myself,
how to read again. 

1705
01:21:33,100 --> 01:21:35,600
Yeah, and I and nobody and 
nobody wants to admit it, but I 

1706
01:21:35,608 --> 01:21:38,500
know anybody who's got fucking 
as many hours of screen time. 

1707
01:21:38,500 --> 01:21:40,700
As I do, has to teach 
themselves. 

1708
01:21:40,700 --> 01:21:42,600
How to read though. 
It's bizarre when he ate 

1709
01:21:42,900 --> 01:21:44,900
Greeting again. 
It's like what the fuck? 

1710
01:21:44,900 --> 01:21:45,900
Yeah. 
Where you just stare at you 

1711
01:21:45,900 --> 01:21:47,800
stare at a paragraph and then 
you're just like, well, under 

1712
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,400
the next one. 
Yeah, I just like why, I spent a

1713
01:21:50,407 --> 01:21:52,600
lot of time on this paragraph. 
Let me just move to the next 

1714
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:56,100
like and and that's and and like
I had to teach myself how to do 

1715
01:21:56,100 --> 01:21:59,000
that again. 
So like your you have to realize

1716
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,600
like if you were in a state that
had a lot of like lockdown 

1717
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:03,800
measures, whether you were the 
base one or not, like you 

1718
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:07,400
probably got used to a different
style of life, whether it's work

1719
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:11,300
from home or anything like that,
but get man get back into 

1720
01:22:11,300 --> 01:22:14,400
something, you know, learn. 
Learn to read again, you know, 

1721
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,700
learn to learn to have some 
faith in something again because

1722
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:22,000
your, it's desolate out there is
unless you believe in like this 

1723
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,500
insane lived hard Flying. 
Spaghetti Monster thing, you 

1724
01:22:25,500 --> 01:22:28,300
know, I mean, like it's 
desolate. 

1725
01:22:28,300 --> 01:22:30,900
It is a, it is a horrible. 
It's worse than anything. 

1726
01:22:30,900 --> 01:22:32,200
I'm sorry, like it's worse than 
anything. 

1727
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,400
It's worse than any religion. 
I'll tell you right now, like it

1728
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:38,200
is worse than 8, so just do 
anything to avoid that, but just

1729
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,400
know that you are, you can't 
just do nothing because 

1730
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,000
eventually, you'll get drawn 
back into that. 

1731
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:43,100
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1732
01:22:44,100 --> 01:22:45,500
Amen. 
Yeah. 

1733
01:22:46,900 --> 01:22:48,700
Well, man, I appreciate you 
coming through, dude, like, 

1734
01:22:48,700 --> 01:22:50,600
goes, I was really good, really 
good talk. 

1735
01:22:51,100 --> 01:22:52,800
Yeah, thanks for having me. 
I enjoyed it. 

1736
01:22:52,900 --> 01:22:56,400
All. 
Is you have anything to promote?

1737
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:00,000
I don't know. 
I mean, I always liked feel like

1738
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:02,700
I'm always about to have 
something or whatever. 

1739
01:23:02,700 --> 01:23:04,400
But no, so, I mean, just like 
finger. 

1740
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:08,000
Okay. 
Well, yeah, because I mean a, I 

1741
01:23:08,008 --> 01:23:09,800
mean, the threads are great. 
So if that's if that's where you

1742
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:12,800
can promote, just follow him on 
on Twitter, I think. 

1743
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:17,000
Have your you're at right here. 
So at Fitness, feelings with the

1744
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:21,400
Z, follow him on Twitter there. 
You can get all his all his good

1745
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:24,100
takes here. 
And thanks again, man. 

1746
01:23:24,300 --> 01:23:26,500
We're rare candy by assured. 
If you want to support us by 

1747
01:23:26,500 --> 01:23:28,400
sure, buy a hat, whatever 
anything like that. 

1748
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:33,600
The the store will always be in 
the description and he's 

1749
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,100
kryptos. 
I-i'm Glenrock me. 

1750
01:23:35,100 --> 01:23:39,700
See you guys later. 
Right.