Running 5 to the six we be in the mix with that rare candy
paint job on a whip. I need food for the kids, money
for the rent. Fuck a lockdown baby.
I can't do that shit. And I'll never vote because I'm
fucking broke and either way I know the police ain't gonna
leave me alone on a plane by the physical and rock me.
Crypto told me I should be in the Glock with me, so I packed
up my piece and I'm sliding slide because we might get
caught up in a riot. Middle finger Trump, middle
finger biting fucker. Left fucking right as you riding
where you let us see it. You know, politics, baby, we
just talked. From the birds to the bricks.
We be in the mix with that rare candy paint job on a whip we
went. Found I just found out Costa
Rica time. I thought it was like 8 hours
ahead of where I am. It turns out it's like Colorado
time which is an hour ahead of me which is really embarrassing
on my part. I didn't realize how big of a
continent they were working with here.
Yeah, I'm like, it's six over here.
He's like AM. Yeah, I thought it was like, I
was like, dude, I don't know where anything.
Is everybody knows Costa Rica's in Europe?
I have Pangea still on my that's I consult Pangea still on my on
my thing. Yeah, I don't know.
I have no clue. But we do have the the hosts of
the podcast movies, the podcast about the active cinema, but
kind of more prescient and the two stars of an upcoming film,
which I've already seen, not the brag called Mass State Lottery
and it's low res. And Hans.
First off, welcome to the show. Hans has never been on the show
before, but I feel like we've recorded a million times.
So it doesn't feel like much of an introduction.
But our audience, we're unleashing the Hans on the
audience. But if you really want to see
Hans unleashed on an audience, check out now Mass State
Lottery. Yeah, your character on Mass
State Lottery. That's that.
Is that is a great slug line. Yeah, yeah.
Because I'm not going to give anything away, but you're like,
whoa. But no, seriously, about Mass
State Lottery. I think it's really cool.
At first when I watched, I was like, what is this?
I did not. This is not what I thought it
was because I'd been hearing about it for a long time, but
it's like this the way that it's like found memories in in terms
of like found footage archived in like a cloud storage thing
and we're to just trust this Private Eye guy and stuff.
I just love the the narrative of it and stuff.
It was just, oh. Thank you.
It was great. What?
So I see all these like things that you're getting it screened
places and things like that. That is good.
However, how tempted are you to just like, upload it to YouTube?
That's not going to happen. You know, I spent four years
working on on this, on this thing.
So my ideal situation was all right, let me put it into
somebody else's hands and deal with this and they can market
it. They can do whatever the hell
they want with it. Seems like America doesn't want
to screen this movie. Now granted, we still have like
40 more festivals to hear back from, but so far the American
ones are like, we're good Korea. They took it Italy.
Now it's going to be premiering in Rome on the 8.
I don't know when this episode's going to come up, but if you're
an Italian rare Candy fan, go to Casa del Cinema in Rome and see
this movie on the big screen. They told me actually the movie
won an award. They won't tell me which award
yet until the ceremony, so maybe I can have an Italian listener
accept the award on my behalf. I don't know.
We'll see. There's so many, they'll be
fighting over it all. I I don't even want to cause a
battle between all the We're so big in the boot.
Well, I got to say thank you to you as well because you helped
fund the second movie, Hans, and I shot that I was editing right
before hopping on here. And if you think Hans is
unleashed in Mass Day Lottery, just wait for this new one where
he's the star, where he's the lead character.
Is he? Is he becoming the next Kevin
Spacey? I think we need to ask.
That's what I think about every time I look at his face, is is
he becoming the next Kevin Spacey?
Yeah, I mean, I just, I just, no, I, I mean, I think, I think
maybe he's just got it because he talked to him.
He is just not a creep, you know what I mean?
But then. You.
Well, depends on who you ask, I guess.
You. Know I have the Malcolm Gladwell
principles of like where if you, you know, he says if you
practice something for 10,000 hours, you're an expert.
If you talk to somebody for longer than an hour and a half,
you know them so that the Hans has passed the threshold.
So he's he's normal guys, believe me.
But yeah, no, I'm really excited about Mass State lottery.
And I don't know if you guys heard about Mickey Rourke,
though. Mickey Rourke is a big character
on on movies. Mickey Rourke got in a little
trouble this week. Oh yeah, I've been following
this very close because I'm also a big time reality TV fan so I
would be excited about Celebrity Big Brother regardless.
But Mickey Rourke on Celebrity Big Brother is peanut butter and
Jelly for me. He so I guess what happened was
is there is I don't know what this I see the name.
I thought they were I thought it was a snack at first, like JoJo
Tzuwa. I thought it was gonna be like
pie at a store or something, but Mickey Rourke was.
I don't, I don't even know how to say it.
He was doing like the old school, like, oh, you're gay,
just wait till I'd fuck you, you know what I mean?
Like he. Was like.
I have so many women that are gay.
Like he would probably do that. He probably thought it was
Florence Pugh, I feel like. But he he was just, he just said
that to her and she she didn't much care for him and he left
Big Brother. But man, what a legend.
Which is confusing because if you go to his Instagram, you're
like, but aren't, aren't you gay too?
Aren't you like a trans woman now or something?
You know what's going on there. He appreciates masculine
musculature, that's what it. Is it's a bit of it, I think he
likes to, you know, rotating between the two extremes of the
spectrum and but things I guess are very binary in his head.
That's that's the way the bodies look like when they're all oiled
up and muscular. Yeah, we.
He's. Bronze Age.
He's Bronze Age. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's not.
I mean, it's completely straight.
Yeah, it's not gay. He's admiring it.
He wants to be that, you know, he's, what, 70?
What 70? 72 damn is he?
72 years old. Wow.
Doesn't look a day over 30, he. Looks like my high school
catcher's glove right now. Yeah, that's not very old, but
yeah, the. Yeah, the yeah, that was, that
was amazing. Immediately when we were
scheduling this, I I was just like, wow, of course a Rourke
bomb happens. I mean, I wonder what?
I wonder what they were thinking about getting him right.
Like did you look him up at all after he's done with?
I mean, he's not done, but he's kind of done with like I think
career. I don't think you would put him
in a place with young people and expect him to not say shit like
that. Like why?
Why are you expecting it to? Work.
They clearly wanted it to happen.
But then why are you only keeping him for a couple of days
and then kick him out and make a big deal out of it?
I'll tell you why that's what is going to happen.
Here's the reason why. Because his appearance fee was
supposed to be half $1,000,000. What?
Yes, 500,000. This was reported in the local
press. And if you kick him out over a
rule violation, well then you get all the clout of the Mickey
Rourke name for about 1/5 the cost.
So they kicked him out after the first eviction over threatening
a guy. So there was the JoJo Siwa
incident where he was using some language you're not supposed to
use in the UK anymore, right? And then after that, some dude
was like giving him the eye. And then Mickey took that as a
real threat even though they were in the middle of a pirate
challenge. So they're all in pirate
uniforms and he's like, I'll fucking lay you out, cunt.
And then they're like, Mickey, go to the diary Room, go to the
diary room, Mickey, you can't threaten people.
And then they decided to give him the boot, and they wound up
saving $400,000 through that. So that was kind of the play.
That's what they do to college football coaches here is like
when they have like a 10 year deal worth like, you know, $80
million and they're like, man, we've been horrible the last
three years. How do we fire this guy?
And they're like you. Know you touch someone.
Hire a hot Hire a hot staffer and give.
It like, yeah, they want the harassment, yeah.
That's what they and it's, I'm not joking, it's literally what
they do. It's just, but it's funny the
he's lucky he didn't get arrested because of Britain, I
mean Britain, I feel. Like he's arrested something.
Like that because I mean, he might be the subject of
adolescence too at this point, just.
I just saw that the the Tates are going to be suing Netflix or
somebody over that, so they should.
They should. I mean, it was ridiculous.
That show, we did a whole thing on it and everything, but that
was on the paywall. Rare candy.substack.com.
But we when I was watching that, it was weird because I thought
they were going to make up like a fake manosphere guy, like
their own guy, like kind of like a Tom Cruise Magnolia situation.
I thought they were gonna make up a guy, but they're like, he's
been watching the Andrew Tate shite.
He's been watching it in his in his room up until 1:00 in the
morning, like, and and I'm like, are you, you really brought up
Andrew Taylor? I'd be pissed too, dude.
Like if you brought my name like come.
On yeah that's so stupid yeah that is that is calling for a
for a lawsuit yeah cuz can you prove anything that's.
The thing right And the story's about a kid murdering his
classmate, a girl classmate who who like spams him red pill
emojis and calls him an insult the whole time and then he
watches an Andrew Tate video apparently and then kills his
classmate, which has happened many times I'm.
Sure, How does he kill he? Stabs her stabs her in the
middle of the street. It's caught on street Cam and
and then they they make it they make it to hate on conspiracy
theory people because they make it like because it's clear as
day that he does it on camera. And there's actually a pretty
intense scene where the the dad Stephen Grant what's.
The guy's name. Stephen Graham.
Yeah, he is watching it, and he's because he thinks his son's
innocent. He watches it and he's like,
it's really, it's sad. And I was like, oh crap, the Lib
tarts are getting good at this shit and then it's horrible
after that. For the next, this is the thing
with a show like adolescence is because you have somebody as
talented as Stephen Graham and also the showrunner or the
creator did the chef series Boiling Point, which is done in
like 1 tag and the there's a movie of that that is very good.
And they worked with a director that I admire, Shane Meadows on
This is England and 86, which were spin off miniseries of a
great movie called This is England.
And so they're talented people that are involved, but you can
see that they're so consumed with the message that it is
trampling over any sort of value that the series could
potentially have. So you'll you'll get these
little Nuggets of like, wow, that's that's great.
Because I was thinking that specifically in the the final
episode where Stephen Graham has had his Van Graffiti and then
he's going and about to be. There's moments that are great,
but then you, you know, you cut back to the detectives and
they're like, what do you know about this word in cell?
And it's like, oh, we're we're doing this law and order
fucking. What was it Hollyoaks or
something where the dudes in the black pill chat room and then
you get the that was ridiculous. The UK seems especially
sensitive to that word incel. They think it's like opening up
the dark web or something. I don't know.
Crazy. Well, the the thing I was saying
was they also got they took a shot at the conspiracy theorist
because it's clear as day the kid murders the girl on TV, but
then there's the guy that works at the paint store where they're
like, I, I support you guys. Oh oh, your son didn't kill
nobody. So on the TV and he stopped them
three times in the throat. But they could do anything with
AI nowadays and like it's clear. So they're like, oh, actually if
you question literally anything, you're like a retarded paint
story. Movie oh wait, so that's so AI
is what they're going to use instead of Q now?
Is that the new? One, I think I, well, I think
they're just anybody who can't accept objective reality, which
is anything a Democrat or left lean, whatever it is in Britain,
left-leaning person says that you're, they're like, look at
how absurd that is, you know, and, and so, and the apparently
the footage has been released, you know, and everything, but
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All right, enough of that. Let's get you back into the
episode. We didn't talk.
We're not talking about anything British past this today.
We're talking about, we're talking about America here.
Some American classics made, well, a couple.
Well, similar, similar crime that happens in that.
Show right? Yeah, that's true.
The. Real 1 It's Bernie Mac.
It's Bernie Mac instead of a 13 year old girl.
But. Yeah, rest in peace Bernie Mac,
fake Bernie Mac and real Bernie Mac.
Homeless Bernie Mac, it's just rough.
But because he's going to use his yellow teeth to stop traffic
later, which is a great line in the movie.
But yeah, we're going to talk about four certified hood
classics. In fact, we'll decide if they
are. I think now this episode you're
looking at the description, you're probably having a an
aneurysm or something because you're just like, wait,
Certified Hood Classics 2 where's the first one?
You're scrolling back in the old episode field.
You're not going to find it. You're going to have to go to
movies, the podcast about the act of cinema where we covered 4
films on that and we decided I had to do it.
It was so much fun. I had to do it on in this arena
over here. But we each picked 2 films, each
podcast picked 2 films, making a total of four and we wanted to
some are good, some are bad, some are unwatchable, some are
like, how the fuck did this happen?
And, and I think, I think each of us picked the dud and each of
us picked a good one, I think. I am so curious to hear which
one you think is a dud because I in my head my 2 picks are like
these are sterling outstanding films so I I'm so curious to
hear. OK, all right, yeah, I, I don't
know, it feels pretty objective in my mind, but all right, we'll
we'll talk about it. But I real fast.
This is such a hack move. Been watching a little Entourage
lately and stuff like I'm handing you a script right now,
but I just if look, you're I know you guys have a million
projects or something, but I think this would be perfect for
Hans and you to make this. This is a guy who found you guys
want you guys can I think on Spotify, you can watch us on
video. So if you guys want to see this,
this is crazy. There's a a a a man, an African
American gentleman who claims that a Vietnamese man is spying
on him through his TV. So here's here's the I think
this would be a great like Blumhouse tear.
Oh, I think I saw. That I've seen the video well,
we just. Heard him say the shit right?
What he said what he said e-mail through the TV right *** just
laying in this bitch. Wonder why a *** can't sleep
right All right look up, look at my motherfucking TV my ***
because I shit like you to sleep.
Use this shit to go to sleep man.
Look at this shit dog. Hey man, y'all go and get rid of
them for we we get rid of TV's man Look at this pussy ass
Vietnamese Chinese looking motherfucker man sitting there
hearing some type of studio or something dog with the
headphone. This *** is live right now, this
live feed this *** live right now watching the *** bro while
*** sleep bro. What do you got?
What do you I mean I, I think it's $1,000,000 idea.
I think again, you guys have a, a, a guy who's appeared in mass
state lottery Kenny, right? So I don't know which role he
would play. Who knows?
You guys decide that you're the expert and then.
Wait, but what happened there? I thought it was just a burned
image of a Chinese man on the. TV.
No, he was moving. Yeah, he was moving apparently.
So here's what happened. I hate community notes.
Don't do this to this video. We do not need this explained.
Apparently he had autoplay from YouTube up and it kind of like
like, have you ever done that where like you can still see the
old thing you were watching like in your TV sometimes like where
it's like up in the I have an old TV.
So maybe that's the case. But it said autoplay from
YouTube. So he was apparently just
watching a Vietnamese guy on YouTube or that was CUDA.
He had been watching Vietnamese people on you.
He's probably a gamer I would imagine.
He was confused about the video he picked.
Well, it's autoplay. Maybe he didn't.
So maybe he didn't. But I mean he's watched similar
content you would think. He didn't think about pressing
pause, maybe, or anything on the video.
We just, no, it's just a Chinese man looking at me, no.
Community notes that that's perfect as is like and and I'm
libertarian about it. If you want to start breaking
their TV's over that because there's Vietnamese people spying
on them. I mean, you, you technically are
getting spied on if you have a smart TV.
I mean, look, you are, you know, they could let if you were, if
this was adolescence in Britain and you shouted a few in cell
words at the TVI mean stranger things of that.
Yeah, he wouldn't be a Chinese man, but he would be a man with
a funny hat. The.
Chinese guy would be shouting it.
The Chinese guy would be shouting him into the TV.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. But so certified hood classics.
Now, I grew up watching these. I loved these.
I I had AI was pretty much only into like sports and rap as a
kid. So I loved like rap movies and
movies that were just elongated music videos as we will watch.
So as we watched on one of these, did you guys grow up
watching any kind of stuff like this?
I mean, yeah, on and off. Like I feel like one of the
earliest examples of an R rated movie that I was exposed to was
probably Boys in the Hood. I feel like that was on HBO or
show one of those networks around like 1990, five, 1996,
which I would have been like really young.
Like we're, I believe we're the same age.
We're I think we're like I'm October 15th of 90.
I think you're like right around the corner of.
The I'm October 23rd of 90. There you go.
So yeah, yeah, yeah. That's we were so you were
watching it when you were five years old boys in.
The Hood, yeah, that was, that was probably the first, the
first one. And then I actually, you know
what? I, I have a story here that does
tie back to one of our certified hood classics.
Debatable. Certified hood classics.
Apparently Crooklyn 'cause you know how you would get those
like penny slips in the mail for like hey you can, you can get 5
VHS tapes for a dollar here. Now I was watching a show on
Nick Junior back then called Gullegulla Island of course, and
the mom on Gullegulla Island had braids and so I saw in Crooklyn
while the mom has braids, this must be the same family from
Gullegulla Island. So I had my mom put through the
slip to get the tape, and then I got Crooklyn and that was
another early one. And then I was disappointed it
was not Gullegulla Island, the movie impoverished Brooklyn
black family. Yeah, Delroy Lindo gambled.
Where? Like he wasn't able to maintain
Gullegulla Island set so they had to move away or leave the
kid somewhere. Yeah, there's no giant orange
frog hover. It was just Spike Lee huffing
paint from a bag. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
What a great self insert there. That's just wonderful.
That's a wonderful thing. Now I think we should go
personally, I think we should go reverse chronological.
I just, I think personally, I think that works well for me
because I'm dying to talk about get rich or die trying, OK?
OK, my favorite one of the four, by the way.
No, by the way all. Right.
Is this one you hate, Glenn? Oh, I, I saw it when it came out
in theaters. I, I loved $0.50 at the time.
He could do no wrong. I didn't realize how bad this
was. I was like, wow.
I well the problem is it's two hours long.
It's just like why is this 2 hours?
Long there is, there is. Just there is zero reason for
this movie to be two hours long. It should be 88 minutes long and
it probably would have been fine.
I think $0.50 is a star though. I love $0.50 like he is.
I I was going down the rabbit hole today of how like funny he
was 'cause I just remember he was, There was nobody funnier.
It's still nobody funnier than him.
His stuff about the Diddy stuff right now is hilarious.
Like there was a guy who. Went on like went out and was
like, did he kidnapped me and sodomized me in a van and like
$0.50 was like, I, I don't care what settlement you're getting.
I would never pay that. Like I would never ever tell
anybody that I'm like a TV. So he's still he's on like
Andrew Schultz is whatever the one where Andrew Schultz is
yelling that he's on that podcast.
And I listened to that for as long as I could and it was it
was it was really funny. But I just remember $0.50 Floyd
Mayweather feud. I loved his like orchestrated
feuds that he would do started I think with well, not started.
The biggest 1 he did earliest I think was Kanye when him they
had the Curtis album versus graduation.
That's right. And they did like a really fake.
It was awesome. I mean, thinking about thinking
back at it, how cool that actually was that that happened.
He had like beefs before that he was kind of a a shithead about I
think Ghostface Killah got him and him got in an actual fist
fight before $0.50 was actually famous.
But I also just love this quick video from $0.50 baiting Floyd
Mayweather into reading Harry Potter for the instead of doing
the ice bucket challenge. There's a special ASLELS
challenge for you Floyd. If you could read 1 full page of
a Harry Potter book. *** I'll give 750,000 to whatever
charitable organization you want to fuck the bucket eyes.
I love it and I don't think Floyd did it.
I don't think Floyd did it either.
Like which is like a brilliant idea.
A brilliant I 750,000 you turned down.
Do you ever hear the clip of him trying to read something on the
radio that they had? Yeah, it's pretty bad.
But the movie this is made after
$0.50 is is much is famous and wants to kind of tell the story
about his, about his getting rich or dying trying.
I mean, you, you decide. He starts off, it's kind of a
starts off with a gun in his face after a kind of a kind of
an insane robbery of a Columbia, a seemingly innocent Colombian
family. And the there's a gun in his
face and then his life flashes before his eyes.
But Hans, I am dying to hear why this was your favorite one.
I maybe because I didn't like the other ones as much.
I think I had a lot of fun with how dumb this movie was and and
I really like how over the top everyone is.
Yeah, this movie also has the legendary micro penis scene with
Terrence. Howard Oh, yeah.
You know I call back this so. Often it's.
Like it's like Eastern promises with black people.
It's crazy like. Promise is very tiny.
There's nothing behind that promise that's.
A crazy scene. It like it's like feels like it
doesn't fit in the movie. You're like, wait, this is like
really like, like raw. Exactly because he demanded it
because they were going to out his his ex-wife, his Asian
ex-wife was going to out his photos of his tiny penis.
So he had to have a conversation with 51 day where he was like,
listen, I know this wasn't in the script and it's your movie,
but can I show my tiny penis in the shower scene please?
This is about to happen to me. It makes sense.
I'm Naked with a bunch of men, so of course it's tiny, right?
Yeah, when he has the he has the well then he, I mean, when you
have a a, a Dick like that, you will get into advanced like
nuclear Egyptian mathematics and go on rogue and like that is the
only thing you can do after that is you do Iron Man and then
empire and then go do that. Yeah, you need a hobby as a
teenager 'cause you can't play with your Dick that much.
So. So you get into weird things
that teenagers usually don't get into.
I I really thought some of the lines were really funny too,
like him saying everyone was in love with my mom so anyone could
be my dad. That made me laugh right at the
beginning because everyone wanted to fuck his mom, which
is, which is true. And I just, even though it's a,
it's a very simple story, I guess for a movie, I mean,
everything that happens is kind of outrageous.
And, and I don't know if I believe it 100% obviously
because it's a, it's a biopic, but I just, I really like him on
screen. I think he's very charismatic
and I think he, he was well, obviously a great pick to play
himself, but he, he, I, I didn't know him as an actor before
this. I don't know if he ever did
acting, but he is really good in this.
So I just, I just enjoyed seeing him on screen.
And even though I I was already familiar with the story, I kind
of wanted to see it and I don't think I've ever seen it before
so. Were you a fan of his music?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like some of his stuff.
Yeah, not not huge, but I like some of his early stuff.
I'm not familiar with with a lot of it, but yeah.
When Get Richer dying, that was one of those Get Richer died
trying was when it came out, I guess low res and I both
probably like 7th grade I wanna say.
And I remember going to Lake Tahoe on a snow trip, and I'm
not like a snowboarder or skier or anything, but we just went to
the snow with my friends and that had just come out.
And the In the Club video had come out where he's being, like,
researched while he's doing pull ups.
Yeah. How did he survive this?
Like, that was just this whole thing was he got shot and his
jaw was messed up. Him and Kanye both had messed up
jaws. It was a very interesting time
for for rap. But I just remember that album
being like, wow, this is amazing.
And he would just start beefs with like whoever.
He was just one of those guys who never really felt like he
was going to be famous for a long time.
So he had to like strike while the iron was hot, but he just
kept staying famous. And then, you know, shout out to
Power, which I've watched the first season of and I to be
honest, I liked it. It's it's like hardcore
pornography. That's when you watch like
Power. It's crazy.
It was like reverse cowgirl scenes and stuff.
Like full, like full on reverse cowgirl scenes.
I'm like he's an outdoor. Yeah, whatever.
The intimacy coordinator discourse does not reach the
STARS network. Let me tell.
You Hey, is that is that the show where the Carmelo Anthony's
wife yes gets naked or? She's getting fucked constantly
in that and then and then there's like 2.
Yeah, La, La. And then of course, that then
NBA player starts saying she smells like Honey Nut Cheerios
and stuff to Carmelo Anthony. But yeah, it's it's that he's
had a hell of a career. I mean, and he's a Trump
supporter, right? Well, until Chelsea Handler
says, hey, you can't do that. And then he shuts his mouth.
You can't have the characters you.
Can't have this fucking cobwebbed vagina anymore.
Yeah. I mean, this movie's kind of
it's different from the other films we talked about on the
last show and then that we have lined up for this show and that
it comes in kind of late. It's part of a different era of
hood movies where you had Eight Mile, I feel like was the true
kickoff for specifically like rapper biopics.
That one was considered a big success critically and also at
the box office. And it's kind of funny, Hans,
that you say like the the movie's so stupid, but then you
look at who directed it and who wrote it.
And you have Jim Sheridan, who's like an extremely accomplished
director who would never touch a movie like this.
And then also Terence Winter, who's like one of the defining
voices of The Sopranos Boardwalk Empire.
He wrote the script. You wouldn't get that really
from watching the movie. It is kind of a simpleton movie,
but I think this is the best example.
Maybe it's between this and Hustle and Flow of aughts Hood
rapper. Yeah.
Biopics and and movie making. Hustle and flow.
You have hustle and flow. Who coming out?
I don't know, at the same time or maybe around the same time?
Get rich or die trying was 2005. Hustle and flow.
I feel like that might have actually been the same or or a
year or two before. Terrence Howard.
And Terrence Howard, I mean, it's Terrence Howard in both,
which is kind of funny. But yeah, I just remember that
the thing like the buy up and then you have like, I know
they're not the same, but you have the success of the Ray
Charles walk the line. You know, I feel like there was
a everybody wanted to tell the like the, the, the ascension
story, you know? Jim Sheridan was doing fucking
Daniel Day Lewis movies before this, My Left Foot and In the
Name of the Father. Well, my left foot was quite a
bit before, so, you know, maybe he wasn't eating super good, you
know, up until then. Because if he was, this is a
weird. It's like $0.50.
It's like $0.50 catching like blackmail on you or something.
Like now you got to do my movie. Yeah.
He went from from doing a music video for Sinead O'Connor to do
and get rich or die try. Wow.
Yeah, a couple. I I remember there were a lot of
things. These are movies where I saw
them. The only movie I hadn't seen
before was Crooklyn for this for this thing.
Everything else I had seen before, but I kind of like
retcon certain actors is in the movie.
I thought the villain who is played by the guy plays out of
BC in ounces. Yeah, yeah.
I thought it was Akon when I was like is I mean let's be real,
they not hard to confuse those two guys.
I mean they both are like just jacked like African guys.
And Akon was probably too busy because he was was isn't he
bringing electricity to African villages?
I think he was already working on that probably.
Yeah, he's still working on it, I think.
Yeah. The only crypto city was it.
That's. So funny.
Yeah. I thought it was him because I
was like, damn. I was like, isn't this a movie
where like $0.50 and Akon like go at it like De Niro and Pacino
and he like. $0.50 was in one with De Niro and Pacino around
the same time. Was it righteous Kill?
No. Was he in that movie?
That's a. Bad movie.
Yeah, that's a bad movie. I remember that.
But yeah, it was there.
There's that one. I love the the reliance on the
Rick James joke that just doesn't hit and it never lands.
But they have to keep going back to it and like breaking the 4th
wall with it. And it's like Rick James, kill
your mom. No, not really Rick James.
It's the guy that looks like Rick James and.
Then he he tapes the picture of Rick James to his mirror that he
forgets about until like 10 years later that he pulls it out
and he's like, I can't remember. I have this Rick James picture.
It's so funny. Yeah, he has the.
There's that There's the there's just like the yeah, the Terrence
Howard. There's his friends who were guy
these actor names I never get. But like the big, you know, the
big goofy football player looking guy that's in here, the
big goofy fat guy. I can't remember what his name
is. The black.
Friend Omar Omar Benson Miller. Omar Benson Miller, Yeah.
He he, these guys are like, not really like, yeah, I they're not
gang bangers really like you. You just, they're not believable
gang bangers in a sense. And, and it's just funny how
like $0.50 has to like take the gun.
He's like, I'm going to do this shit.
I'm the hardest one. And he goes out and just shoots
up like a bodega or something. And he's like, yeah, this really
happened. This is my story because you're
not allowed to lie about that stuff like you're.
Not you're not. Supposed to lie about like,
well, I mean, people do, but like something verifiable is
like new homicide in New York, like not that long ago.
Like people go, yeah, I know who actually did that stuff, you
know what I mean? It's just.
Got it. You don't think he got saved by
his grandmother saying his name and then that's why he's gonna
get shot in the head? He probably heard Viola Davis's
Poison when it happened because that's the beginning of many
men. That's basically many men,
right? The song like essentially, which
yeah, it's, it's funny, but he is good, $0.50 is really good.
I like his. I like how there's zero
apprehension from his girlfriend, by the way, when
they first meet up after a long time and it's clear that he's
just a drug runner. And she's kind of like not she's
like a nurse or I don't know what she is.
She's like something, something smart.
She's cuz she's hanging out with that gay black guy.
Theater. Theater Black.
Guy it might be. Immediately.
Yeah, Yeah. She's like, oh, sure, I'll go
out with you. Yeah, sure.
No, yeah. Yeah, he's like, hey, do you
want to go eat? And the guy's just standing next
to her there. It's just like, yeah, it just
disappears. Who cares?
The movie has the weirdest tone to it, where it's like there's
moments that they try to have Comic Relief, but it's not
nearly as funny as some of the other parts of it.
I don't know. I do agree, I think, I think the
the movie takes its turn into, Oh yeah, this is $0.50.
This is the fifth modern $0.50. A little too late and it feels
like it wraps it up too quick toward the very end.
It's. I don't know, it's crazy because
I do. I think the movie is still a
success, which is contrary to what the critics thought.
Is that like 16% on Rotten Tomatoes?
Yeah. That I, I don't know.
I think people were just like put off by the fact maybe it
came out too close to 8 Mile and that was like an Oscar contender
for some categories. I think that's racist because
black people don't use Rotten Tomatoes.
This is a bunch of white people. Yeah, yeah, on Rotten Tomatoes
and giving it 18% like. What's the what's the black
alternative? Is it?
Is it moldy grapes? Yes, yes.
Well, let's see if that domain name's available, but yeah, no.
Yeah. Because that's what I was
wondering. I was like, this is you can't do
that. I like if horror is baked in at
80% or whatever, modern horror movies are baked, Yeah, These
movies should at least get a solid 50 to 60, You know what I
mean? Because like I.
It's definitely not 16 like it's not no, it's not a terrible
movie. It's not 40 shot 47.
I mean, yeah, I I think it's closer to yeah to like A to like
a mid, a middle, whatever. It's, it's a fun movie to watch,
but it's not really, it's not going to stick with the oh,
there's nothing really memorable about it or anything that you're
going to think about afterwards. It's just kind of there.
Well, the music's incredible too.
I love the music. I like Window.
I love Window Shopper, how he records it later in the movie,
but it's playing when he gets his first car and it's like,
it's funny because it sounds like it's playing in the car.
And I was like, oh, did you already record that?
Like really professional, like definitely not in your apartment
with your friends, like song. And then it's like later, it's
like, no, I got it. I'm recording Window Shop.
It's like an hour later in the movie when he records it.
I love that. I like the fact that they
implemented the mouth mumble thing 'cause I never knew why he
mumbled. Yeah, and then I, I guess I
learned that it was because he was shot in the mouth at the
beginning. I mean, I like his.
I like his sex. Song that turned on his
childhood girlfriend that later becomes his.
I like the two live crew. Kind of like sex Song that the
parents are listening to. Like the Beastie Boys parents
disapproving parents in the living.
When are we getting a Beastie Boys biopic that seems long
overdue? Michael Rapaport's complaining
there's no work in Hollywood. Why don't you just make that?
Yeah, because, you know, if there's something that Hollywood
doesn't like to hire is. Yeah, no, they don't.
They don't like. To tell Jew.
No, they famously don't like to tell Jewish stories or hire
Jewish actors. And, and it'd be funny if they
hired not none, like no Jewish actors to play the Beastie Boys.
It was just like Josh O'Connor as.
No, we got to get, we got to get a Beastie Boys biopic the same
way they're doing that Beatles biopic, which is 4 movies over
six years. The Ad Rock one with Kathleen
Hannah would be incredible with him just getting whipped to.
The wait wait wait hold on, they're doing 4 Beatles movies.
Yes, four. It's the Beatle verse, dude.
You're not ready for the Beatle verse.
You have a movie podcast, you're doing 4 episodes on them I hope.
What? I just saw the image of the
actors they picked and I was like, okay, I didn't really.
I don't care. Are they gonna do an Avengers
like altogether one afterwards? You would have to assume it's
leading to that, yeah. Which is funny cuz my problem
with a lot of TV and stuff nowadays is nobody knows if they
have the show anymore, like after a season.
So like people just kind of, you could tell these things are
segmented and segmented and it's just, but I like the idea that
these Beatles movies are like, no, you're getting four of them.
They're all going to be great and everyone's going to want and
no one's going to laugh at this or think it's retarded or
something. And we're going to put out four
separate ones of these. Is it each of their store?
I mean, I, I don't know. How?
The problem is, I deeply care and I'm still not going to be.
I'm a huge Beatles fan, so I was just like.
Your Beatles episode actually got me on a total Beatles kick
because I was absolutely one of those people where I was just
like together, the vanilla ice cream of music.
And I glossed over them completely ignored them.
And then I went on a deep dive and specifically into George
Harrison. It was kind of funny timing.
He's. The best?
Around the same time, I begun to look into Handmade Films, his
production company, where he financed a bunch of these really
interesting, mostly English Life of Brian.
Yeah, I believe it started with Life of Brian, and then he did
long Good Friday, which is one of my personal favorites.
Bob Austin. 'S did he really?
Oh, my gosh. Yeah, Yeah.
No, he had he had taste and he and then he hated British taxes,
so he would just spend all day. I mean, you wrote the song The
Tax Man back in the 60s. But I mean, British taxes, it's
kind of like British free speech.
Like it's similar. Like, if you think you get taxed
a lot in America, like they're just, they pay to like the queen
to just be, to just here you go. You can have a bunch of money to
do whatever it is you guys do. And he would, he would just
write. Yeah, he would just write
letters to the like about how taxes are bullshit all day.
I really, really think George Harrison, he would, he would
love some certified hood classics.
If only he was alive today to fund.
I don't know. I don't know what people.
That's the problem. I don't know what people.
This is an extinct genre, by the way.
Like, it's this, it's the sad part.
Like, are they who's making these?
They're not putting them out in the theaters.
Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, what was the last big
one? The last one that I can think of
was Notorious and that was at the tail end of this like 50
Cent Eight Mile Hustle and flow era of movie making.
Was the run DMC1 after notorious?
Who the run DMC 1? I don't even.
Remember the run? Yeah.
Is there a Run DMC movie? I don't even know.
This Oh no there wasn't run DMC. It was What's the ice cube?
Oh, the NW straight out of Compton.
Yeah, that's. Right.
Yeah, those. Were really like big budget,
though, It's like like the I'm trying to think of like there's
just this genre and I I think to be originals kind of are like
what's what's coming of that, which I think I mean, hey, I I
just I'm glad it's better than a lot of I mean I'm sorry, it's
more entertaining than a lot of stuff people are making right
now that are that is much more high falutin and high art, you
know. It's, you know, they took like
the the FUBU ethos for us by us, right.
And the budget is always $2000 Max, which I have to appreciate,
you know. Curtis Snow did it for like $168
man, and that was all liquor store tabs.
Probably like a guy just like black bag liquor store.
My my favorite thing about those tubing movies is that you can
tell I don't have enough money to pay the actresses to get
naked. So whenever there's a a sex
scene, it's always with like 5 blankets on them and she's fully
clothed and it's shot in a way where you could only see like
half of her face. Like you see nothing, no hint of
body or anything, and it's just because you just got someone's
cousin to be in their movie and she's not going to get naked for
no money. They put a they put a link to
her only fans. So like if you want to see.
It you know, we we were watching some on YouTube and they would
have like actors come into the scene and then their Twitter at
would be right in the left hand corner.
That's a hood classic thing though.
Like that's like, I don't out here we have like dudes that
drive like kind of the term is is racist, but I don't know what
else to call them like rice rockets and stuff, you know,
like the little like lowered Honda Civics with the spoiler
and stuff. Like, and sometimes there's a
big, well, a lot of Mexican dudes that out here and they
have their Instagram just like all over the windows.
Like it's just everywhere. It'll be like at, you know,
cheese boy or something. I don't know.
It was just a blunt weird ass name.
Like it'll. Be why is Why is Rice rocket
racist? It's like Honda, like rice.
Oh. Yeah, this is a old school term.
I don't know. I that's a new one.
Oh, yeah, yeah. That, that, that we, you know,
I'm in the Bay Area, so there's, you know, there's a lot of them.
So yeah, got to have a name for something, right.
And. Surprised they can drive them,
am I right guys? No comment but the Anyways, the
the, the one of the other things I love is actually the death
scene with his mom is kind of insane in like get rich or die
trying. Like I cuz I don't know if
$0.50's mom actually died or something Cuz I, I listen to a
lot of his music, especially back then.
I don't remember hearing that, but let's just say did like did
they really like lighter on fire inside of the house and stuff
like crazy? That was just a weird.
This doesn't seem like that. Seems like something that should
have been in bones. You would think so, yeah.
Bones is also of that era and I, you know, this is one that Bones
slipped by me and I was very aware of Bones I when I, when I
threw it on last night, I had to do a good old fashioned 399
rental for me too. For for a lot of these movies I
had to, which is embarrassing. It's like who is what?
OK, besides you and me, who has paid 399 to rent bones in the
last six to seven years? Because anybody that likes the
movie is not paying 399 for it, I'll just tell you that.
Much. No, they're definitely not.
You know, Bones actually got a boutique distribution kind of
recently. I guess New Line sold it off to.
I don't think it was Vinegar Syndrome, but it was.
Was it maybe like Shout Factory or something?
Yeah. So there's an audience out there
who's wanting to watch Bones in 2025.
But this was the first time that I watched Bones 'cause I'm just
kind of naturally averse to Snoop Dogg.
Anytime I see Snoop Dogg, I'm thinking of, you know, just the
cheapest commercials on the planet and him Hawking some
horrible product or doing a cooking show with Martha
Stewart. Why don't you change your HP
inkjet printer cartridge, nephew?
You know, Once Upon a time, I think, you know, Snoop Dogg was
kind of an interesting guy, and I don't consider him remotely
that now. So when you pick Bones, I was
like, OK, wow. Bones is definitely one that's
been on the radar and it's. A great poster.
It's a great poster. Yeah, and it the director of the
movie, I, I, I mentioned it to you over DM, but Ernest
Dickerson is one of like the most revered directors of
photography and was Spike Lee's go to guy for a number of years.
And he directed this movie and I think he elevated it beyond what
the capacity for it should have been.
Otherwise, although I was not a fan of this Bones movie, I'll be
frank with you. It's terrible, Yeah.
And, and here's the problem is it's like you don't go into this
thinking, wow, this, this is going to be great.
What you're hoping for is it's like trashy and like tawdry and
bad, but it's so like sterile. That's my problem with it is
like get like really black magic, get like really weird,
like like way more rapey. Like there's a there.
There needed to be a good old fashioned rape scene in this and
there just wasn't. Like how is it rated R?
What's rated R about it other than, I guess the cursing?
Maybe, yeah, you see Pam Grier, like, is Pam Grier gonna get
naked? Maybe that's what makes it
naked. Nope, doesn't happen.
I love the I love that one part at the beginning because the the
premise of the movie, I I still don't quite know what's
happening. By the way, there's a bunch of
guys trying to buy like a old like haunted apartment project
building to throw events in, which again, seems like it could
happen. And there there's this tale of
Jimmy Bones, who is guys, you'll never guess it.
It's a pimp played by Snoop Dogg from back in the day.
That's that's paranormal and twisted and but not at all like
he's they they don't make him a real villain.
That's the problem with the Snoop Dogg star vehicle movie.
It's like no, he should be like Freddy Krueger level insane.
I I just kept thinking that it is OK.
This feels like A Nightmare on Elm Street mixed with, I don't
know if you've seen Candyman. Yeah, there's a bit of Candyman
in there for sure. I was thinking Halloween
Resurrection. Cause the gimmick of that movie
was they're going to the Michael Myers house to host an online
reality show and they're going to broadcast the whole thing.
And you have like characters who are basically like the teenagers
in this movie running amuck and getting killed off 1 after
another. So I was like, OK, this came
first I believe. So they must have taken from
Bones. There's no other option.
I mean, also this was actually kind of a popular genre though
'cause I feel like House on Haunted Hill did a similar thing
and it was 13 Ghosts, which was another kind of a similar vibe
where hey I. Tried to watch, I tried to
rewatch that too. I was like wow, this is bad.
Oh, 13 times it does. Not hold up at all.
I liked. It I liked it a lot when it came
up, my wife and I were like, let's be a little nostalgia
mode. We're like, let's found 13
ghosts. Sorry, how cool this was.
I was for some reason, I thought it was the haunting with like
Owen Wilson and that wasn't that was a different.
Movie I. Think and I watched 13 Ghosts.
I was like, man, this is good. But yeah, you're right, though
it is in that vein. They tried to make this a
because Snoop Dogg does a superior movie around this time.
Maybe next time. I know you might be sick of
Snoop Dogg, but I love I love him and he's great in Baby Boy.
Oh yeah, he was. No, he was terrific in Baby Boy
and I'll even say in Starsky and Hush.
Huggy Bear, he's great, yeah, but the but the wash starring
him and Doctor Dre is great. That's a great movie.
And it's and they do a great marketing thing in that movie
where Eminem leaves his patented like Eminem voicemails as like a
crazy white guy that's going to shoot up the car car wash at
some point. He's like, yeah, you fucking
fag. Yeah, you know, like, you know,
and he's like calling it on the like he's doing like insane,
unhinged Eminem Marshall Mathers voicemails.
What a that's a much better vehicle for like that rap scene
that was happening at the time. And this bones.
I I wanted it to be like trashy and like gross and just like
Samuel Delaney level like insane.
But it just again, why is it rated R?
You might as well just make APG 13 movie if you're going to.
Do this. Yeah, it it has a it has like a
weird MTV movie stink to it that I couldn't wash off which.
By the way, get rich or die try and was an MTV movie and a hell
of a lot. Better.
Way better. Yeah.
And it doesn't feel like, I don't know, there's there's
something about movies from 2000, 2001, 2003 where I think
they all kind of have like a similar vibe where it's like
technology is coming, right? So, so technology is going to be
a big thing, but it's not there yet.
But we're still going to try to kind of use it, but it's clunky
and it doesn't work and it's kind of feels out of place.
So all of those movies always feel like they're from that
period of time. And for whatever reason, that
always feels like a, like a, an MTV movie to me.
Even the way that they're shots, the angles they use and, and the
way that they use camera movements.
I don't know why. It just reminds me of watching
like an MTV Video when which is that was groundbreaking.
You know, I feel like MTV hasn't put out a dud ever.
If you look at MTV movies, you have Joe's apartment, which is
already kind of wacky for the 90s.
I'm sure it's not as good as we remember, right?
Napoleon Dynamite. Classic.
The foot fist way I believe was an MTV.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
For sure. Get rich or die trying.
Crossroads Jackass Movies. Crossroads starring Britney
Spears. Wasn't there you go.
Classic Crossroads. Love that movie.
Yeah, that might be the dud I think, but the.
Certified Hood Classic, yeah. Well, Freddy got fingered at an
MTV movie. It might have been.
It might have been, I think it was Universal.
I feel like a like a maybe it was, I don't know.
Disney owns it now. It had to be Fox.
Fox Yes. Bone bones.
Oh, I can't wait for them to get Freddie into Space Jam 3.
That would be fun, yeah. Bones.
Bones got 27% on Rotten Tomatoes.
That's crazy they it got a higher rating than get rich or
ditron. Yeah, it's insane that.
Yeah, that's what I mean. I'm like, I don't.
I think we need to look into the white nationalist movement
happening at Red Rotten Tomatoes.
Right now. I think I don't feel safe going
on the site personally. I wonder if it's a lot of just
oh, you're glamorizing violence or whatever the fuck.
But you're not allowed to tell black person not to do that
though. That's the.
Thing true I'll. Compliment.
I'll compliment Bones on two things.
The first is getting Pam Grier for this movie.
She's still looking good. It's right after Jackie Brown.
She's probably like almost 60 here.
I love how she's supposed to be this like weird seance like
homeless looking woman. Yeah, yeah.
And I think the guy says as much as like, damn, she's fine.
Like they say guys like this crazy bitch, like warning me
about the building. I love that.
And then what's the other thing? Yeah, the the other thing is
these awful effects in the film, like there's clearly like a
smoke overlay with a person's face in it that could have been
downloaded off of YouTube today and then implemented and look
better. And then also when the the dog
turns to whoever and it has a human's face and it talks.
I was like this movie is retarded, this is great.
What Snoop Dogg, you have to do that in a Snoop Dogg movie.
Snoop Dogg, he turned into a Doberman in the in his most
famous what's my name music video, which was actually better
use of special effects than bones.
It was about 10 years prior and I me and I'm actually a big
Snoop Dogg, the music musician fan from you know, look, he
hasn't I I don't know what he I think he makes like weird like
youth football rap now like because he's like 57.
I have no idea how old he is, but he I used to, I'm like big
West Coast rap guy. There will be another rapper
that I praise before this is all done.
But he he, I do think he works in a lot of stuff.
I was like, man, this is such a bad use of him though, because
he's he's not funny at all. Like it's just, it's not funny.
The the 70s, like the 70s look that they give Pam Grier is
funny because you obviously have a template already to work with
to be like, Oh yeah, Pam Grier from the 70s.
You could just literally dress her up like that.
They're like, no, let's make it like look like we went to Spirit
the Halloween store and put like a a weird Afro on her and, and
stuff. It's out of control, man.
I don't know what the budget was, but surely they had enough
costume money for something like that.
Yeah, I think with Bones you can just point to the script being
the real problem here, because you do have somebody who's
talented behind the camera and you've got Pam Grier.
That should have been enough. And you have Snoop Dogg, who was
being charismatic during that time period.
It should have been enough to sell the movie, but I don't know
something. It just didn't work.
Yeah, the Movie. The movie cost 16,000,000.
Wow, that's a lot of money back. Then yeah, especially 2001,
that's a lot. Of made half of that, but how
many, OK, how many on the bootleg market did it make?
Yeah. The guy filming the camera in
the theater, that's they probably that's the you made a
kill. That's the problem when you make
a hood classic 'cause. You do not get, you do.
Not get any revenue from that. So that's that's kind of rough.
Redbox put like DVDs right on the street.
Redbox kind of monetized that market a little bit.
It kind of probably took that out.
I don't know. I don't.
I don't see those being sold anymore.
What do they have now that Redbox is dead?
Is that right? Is red box dead?
Yeah, they went out, they went bankrupt.
And the the red box that's right by my mom's place that I would
typically frequent. Yeah, completely.
They left it there, but it's it's done.
It's done though. How's it been, Bulger?
Has it been, like, open? Yeah.
Somebody tried to rob it? No.
Yeah, I wish it was full of movies.
I'd also like to to point out that this is a poor use of
Clifton Powell as well. Clifton Powell is a good actor
and he's in like a lot of these type of movies, but he's usually
pretty good. Typically like a police chief
guy or a pimp, you know what I mean?
He could do either one, but they just make him into a square like
Chappelle, black white guy type thing.
And and he I don't, I guess he's like feeling evil.
I know for a while there's like somewhat of A twist.
I still don't quite get what it was, but he was just like, I
don't like being in the hood anymore.
And they're like fucking evil. This guy's fucking evil.
He's raising a family and stuff. But he I guess he was the one
that got rid of Jimmy Bones, who apparently was a good guy.
Apparently he's a good guy. I don't know.
I don't think well. Pimps are upstanding members of
society, we all know that. It is true.
I mean, yeah, it is true. The real pimp is capitalism.
And you know, that's. Yeah, exactly.
What's happening to see fucking ginger snaps pop up in here
though That was that was cool. What's her name?
Catherine. Isabel How?
Was. That the Y girl yeah, you know,
familiar with she's from Ginger series she's.
I don't, I don't know anything about her.
Ginger Snaps is a series of Canadian vampire movies about
this girl that becomes a vampire and then her.
Still a werewolf movie God. Sy Sy would love that, then he
loves. Oh, are there werewolves?
No, they're. Or is it werewolves?
I'm like 90% sure it's werewolves, those movies.
You are correct, it is well that.
Good. Yeah, it is.
Well, no, they're bad, they're bad movies, but but they're in
like the horror sphere. I guess they're revered 'cause
it's like monster movie about with starring girls in like
their early 2000s. But they're not good.
I just like, I just know her from that 'cause when I was
leaving in Canada, they would play them late, those movies and
they're, you know, horror movies from the 2000s, everything that
you would expect that. But then they're also with the
blandness of Canadian cinema, where you can't really push
boundaries that much. So a Canadian guy watching the
1st 15 minutes of Bones, I have to have her.
Yeah, have her in my movie. Yeah, yeah.
You know, this is the girl. And so, yeah, next one,
technically, I don't know which order to go into.
You'd have to go by month here because I think they're both
1994. Oh really?
Wow. I.
Think so. I mean above the rim I think is
1994. But I'll do Crooklyn first.
Hadn't seen this. I am a Spike Lee apologist to an
extent, though I've realized how much I haven't seen any of his,
any of his Japanese stuff. Like any of his.
I know he's making a new one. He's making a new Japanese
movie. Yeah, what?
He's doing a remake of High, High and Low with Denzel
Washington as a music executive in New York City or something
like that. Yeah, I, yeah, I don't know.
I don't really have a lot of interest in it though.
I'm sure you guys will do an episode on it so.
Oh yeah, I'm definitely going to be going.
I can't believe Denzel went back.
I mean, I can't believe it, but I just, I can't believe that
that he would go back and work with Spike after how many
horrible movies Spike has put out in the last 15 years.
I think there's a reason why he's avoided him, but he didn't
have. Denzel because he didn't have
Denzel. It could be that.
It could literally be as simple as that.
Well, if Denzel cared that much, he wouldn't do Gladiator 2
right. Yeah.
Is Denzel acting a little bit like I feel like he's hurting
for money a little bit. I don't know.
When we start seeing Denzel act with Travolta, then we'll know
for certain. Bones 2 starring.
Travolta. The bone is different.
The bone is something he sucks on.
Snoop Dogg won't do that 'cause he's making Candy Crush
commercials and it didn't work with the schedule.
But the Anyways, the Yeah, Crooklyn is good.
I think it's kind of like a Woody Allen movie.
Like like a black Woody Allen movie is kind of how I or like a
like a Ron Howard like Woody Allen Y kind.
Of that's that's actually, I think that's a great way to put
it. You're you're you're on to
something there that I hadn't observed but I think in
retrospect is so obvious. Yeah, Spike Lee's kind of doing.
He's not doing a direct biopic, but it's based on the life of
him and his siblings living and growing up in Brooklyn with his
family. Because I believe his father was
a musician. And, you know, there's, there's
a whole back story there. And it's.
Tall kid, right? The tall kid with glasses is his
insert character. Probably the one who likes the
Knicks. There you go.
That's going to be the one. Because that's why I was like,
yeah, which I that kid did nothing wrong.
By the way, the fucking Knicks are in the finals.
They've won one, by the way. They've won one.
And it was that one. So we never saw it again.
And and guess what? We had Spike Lee fucking sitting
courtside watching losses for the rest of his life as a Knicks
fan. But yeah, that, that was a it's
a good movie. I I thought, I think it's
interesting. I don't, I don't know that it's
a hood classic though. I think it's like, I think it
might be a tier like I think this is like something that
could be like brought in like colleges and stuff, you know
what I mean? And it's a little more hood.
I think there's not enough hood, I mean.
We kind of it's the hood element, it's spike, but it
paint. But it it kind of looses the
hood for me when they go to what is it Michigan.
Well I love that part though with the old stuffy old lady
dollhouse that. They yes, where you have the the
lead character going to live with her aunt and uncle, who are
pretty well to do yeah and then they accidentally suffocate her
beloved dog where she's. Where she's reminded constantly
that she has no titties yet as occasion about 3 or 4 different
times. That girl ain't nothing under
that shirt. Troy Right is the name of the.
Girl Troy, yeah, which is, I think in my opinion, in my rap
nerd brain, I think it's a reference to They Reminisce Over
You, the Pete Rock and CL smooth song that was playing all
through NBA Street all the time. But I would I because why else
would a girl be named Troy? It's weird, but yeah, there was
it's good though. It's good cast.
Alfrey Woodard, Delroy Lindo, David Patrick Kelly as the gay,
weird gay musical composer neighbor.
I think that's is. That Warriors guy.
Yeah, and Twin Peaks and Twin Peaks.
Jerry Horn from Twin Peaks. But yes, he was.
He's he's in that movie at his and he's the he.
I do like that there's a movie that the smelliest guy in the
neighborhood is the one white guy.
Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, that's how.
Yeah, his house stinks. And his house, his house is
smelling up the neighborhood. And he's a gay musical composer.
There's another glasses like wet bubbles from trailer.
Park Boys, Yeah. Yeah, right.
Right. That's true.
Yeah, He has that, and that's a classic.
The hood movie trope is like the the either you have the Fred
Willard, like will you turn it down in there and they throw him
in like a dumpster. They have that kind of thing.
Or they have the like, really quirky white guy with like, look
at my lizards, man. Yeah.
Like, weirdly, the weird creep. Horny, Yeah.
Yeah, and it's like his parents are like, it's like incestual
like and stuff, which I think is funny.
I, I don't know, like it's people are too tense nowadays,
like racially. It's a stereotype that's not
easy. Yeah, it's funny.
You're allowed to do that. Like it's I, I want, I want the
world to be like this again, where you can paint me as this,
I can paint you as that. And guess what?
Everyone goes home and it's fine.
Yeah, let's have fun with our side characters.
There's, they don't have to all be, you know, basic and PCs and
you can make them interesting and that adds a lot to your
movie, even if they're on screen for a minute or two.
Yeah, it's like RuPaul who plays Bodega Woman.
Does that happen Laura's when you go to the bodegas?
We see RuPaul all the time. Dancing with a small Puerto
Rican man, Yeah. It's more common than you think.
Yeah, because that's, I mean, that was basically drag queen
story hour. What was happening in the daily,
The Daily Wire? Matt Walsh might come in, dude,
and just just tear that whole place up.
Like if you send him that clip, he'd be like, look what they're
doing in New York. In 94, yeah.
Look what? Look what's happening from the
five. To the 6:00 we'd be in the
making paid job. Yeah.
So, yeah, it's, it's kind of it's kind of interesting because
I, I thought the like in Crooklyn, the the, the framing
of the movie or the concept of the movie basically is you have
this fan, this family who I'll, I'll say they got a nicer
apartment than me, even though they and they run the building,
I think like they run. They run before Sorry, I I just
want to bring something up that I wanted to mention on the 50
Cent movie 1 When I was in Canada, I, I had a roommate and
we were going to move out of the apartment and he was like, oh,
we found a house. I, I got another friend.
We found a house. Your bedroom, it's in the
basement, but it's the biggest bedroom of the whatever.
And I was like, fine, I don't have to go see it.
I was dating this girl all the time.
So I was like, I'm going to go to her house.
I trust you, right? Huge mistake.
I'm 62 and when I got to that basement, I couldn't stand up in
that basement because it was too low.
And my bedroom had I can only describe the Gray color walls as
like prison. Right.
So when $0.50 complained about his room that they gave him, I
was like, that fucking basement room is better than one I had.
He's like, that's not so bad. It's like Brooklyn apartment.
You're next to the laundry. Yeah.
Brooklyn apartment. Even without electricity I've
like. I've been in way worse
apartments than that. Like, oh, yeah, no, they got it
made. They're they're all set for a
family in Brooklyn, especially during that period.
Also, by the way, my apologies here for some reason, I don't
know why that's never happened before that my audio just cut
out only for stream yards. There's like a curse on these
hood classic films. The platform has this platform
has taken kind of a shit in the last two months.
I don't know what it is, but it's been having, I don't know,
it's like weird. If you remember when we recorded
volume 1 for for movies, the audio, the only time it's ever
happened in the history of us doing like 5-6 seven years of
podcasting, the audio got mangled and was just jarbled and
was I, I had to like get into like the cloud and figure out
okay, what can I recover here? And then I was able to put out
like almost all of it minus like 12 minutes where we talked about
some movie that. That's where Han said the N word
like 3 times. So luckily, luckily it was I
think stream yard or or zoom or whatever.
You guys wait, you guys. You guys use Zoom though.
Yeah, we do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so all the N words, all the N words go out and editing.
So yeah. Because I remember thinking
like, should I be associated with that one?
Now we don't have to worry about it, but.
That's why Loras is the one that makes money here, not me.
Because he, you know, he does all the work editing all those N
words out. Yeah, you're like, you're like
Sam Hyde's like the smoke detector guy.
Yeah, but he but I love the I love the the opening or cannot
the opening seem like the opening sequence of just the
camera following them up and down the steps and the kids
being little shitheads. And the, the dynamic between the
parents is really nice too. Just the the dad who just brings
home ice cream, but like nothing else, but is way cooler and the
kid. And it's extra frustrating for
the mom because the moms like I actually like make sure this
house actually survives And and I I think they do a really good
job. I always forget just how good
Spike Lee is because I think in my opinion, the greatest one of
the greatest sports movies of all time is is he got game.
I think that's the only like a like a perfect film for I was.
Like this close to picking it until I mean.
I've already covered, we've covered it.
We I've covered it on the back wall with filthy Armenian.
Alright? I mean, I could talk about it a
million times, but like I love there's like people hate on that
movie, like they they think it's they don't like the they don't
like the like Sprite commercial look of it.
But it's like you guys realize that Sprite commercial started
looking like this after he got gained by.
The way yeah, Spike Lee innovative that stuff with his
advertisements for Nike and all these other commercials that he
was he he did that that was he's.
The man he was the man. I know he's like, you know,
cringe now, but I I think like, I like the Malcolm X movie.
I like, I like what what's he has another another really good
one. I mean, I like I said, I was
telling Hans do the right thing is like, I think overrated to
me. But it's I don't know, I guess
it's a classic or something, but I like this.
This is right up there though. I thought Crooklyn was right up
there. It's really sad.
I mean, it's really sad. I was like, wow, I wasn't ready
for that. Like, that was scary, you know,
because Alfre Woodard, who I remembered when I was a kid, was
on Desperate Housewives. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
right. She was one of the she was the
token black desperate housewife. She was like an investigator,
wasn't she like, like kind of an investigator?
Like she was like, something's happening.
These white people are these white women are going crazy.
What wasn't I've I never watched Desperate Housewives but I
remember some friend of mine did.
He was obsessed with Desperate Housewives and there was some
plot where somebody was being kept in a basement or something.
Oh, yeah, no, it was wild. It was.
They tried to make it like a soap opera, like a prestige soap
opera. So it had a lot of like absurd
things happening in it, but it was just like a bunch of Milfs.
So it was like, you're I'm 13, like I'm just like, this is
awesome. Like we can watch this on TV.
And it was and it was that. And then lost was on on
Wednesdays and it was like, wow, ABC like ran everything for a
while. And then the Bachelor was just
getting started. So it was just kind of, it was
kind of a, a crazy time. And yeah, ABC was the place to
be it. Was unreal.
So you. Yeah, it was, Yeah.
I think a few more things about Crooklyn.
Yeah. I love, I love the because you
don't know where it's going for a while.
You're like, what's going to happen?
Like somebody's going to get shot.
Like something's going to have to happen for the, because it
sounds kind of nice. Like everybody sings Doo wop on
the on the stoop and gets water poured on them.
And it's kind of these Looney Tunes gags they do on each
other. I'm like, but what happens?
And it's definitely not what I thought.
And after a while, you don't realize that the main character
is the girl. I think it's actually a good
trick Spike Lee does because you're like, wait, who does this
center around? And then it's the girl you're
like, whoa, played by. Zelda Harris Yeah.
There's kind of a disorganized nature to it where you're just
focusing on the family and you're jumping into these
vignettes of moments from childhood and everything else
that happens to be going on in that household.
And it feels like a collection of memories that were put
together into, like, a very moderately narrative film.
And then, yeah, we do wind up taking a turn about midway
through where it's like, OK, this is actually going to be our
lead character as we close out the movie.
And here's how the family changes by the end of it.
Or comes together while losing its central figurehead.
Yeah. And it's, yeah, it's wild.
And like I said, there's that kid who wants to watch.
All he wants to do is watch his Knicks and Spike Lee there.
He had a famous feud with Reggie Miller in the 90s during when
the Knicks were on their run. He was Reggie Miller did the
classic choke thing to him. So that's a fun, that's a fun
night a lot of people don't like, you know, if you don't
know like know anything about basketball or like just New York
pop culture in the 90s, that that probably goes over your
head and you're like, oh, he's just a Knicks fan.
But that that and he's kind of a nerdy looking kid with glasses.
And I like, I, I thought all the child actors were really good.
Like like like really good. I was like, wow, this is like, I
don't know these kids from any other movies.
And like I said, I I've watched a lot of certified hood
classics. You think I would?
Yeah, he blamed Spike Lee for a lot of those losses, right.
He was like, it's you. It was you that taunted.
I mean, like, he was. He was, yeah.
I mean, I, hey, I mean, there's a great ESPN 30 for 30 about the
whole thing. It was pretty cool.
I was the Nixon Pacers series back when like basketball was
actually cool like it was. Now it's just like, I mean,
Speaking of, I mean, is there anything else on Crooklyn?
I feel like I'm missing something.
Is there anything? Oh yeah, I want.
I have one complaint that really took me out of the movie and and
bothered me because I was like am I drugged right now or did
the aspect ratio change for no reason and everything became
stretchy when they moved? What?
Yeah, no, mine did that too. I was like is this, is that a,
is this a Spike Lee thing or is this just the copy I have?
Or like is this just the Amazon Prime?
Rental when she moves to the the secondary family home, the
roaming. The roaming Polanski like
fisheye lens. Thing here's what happened and I
don't know why nobody has corrected it.
It has since been corrected for the Blu-ray release that was
recently put out by Kino Lorber. But when they did the VHS for
the first time, that's, you know, you would do a pan and
scan type thing and then the aspect ratio would sometimes get
fucked. That's what happens then.
And I think what happened for the subsequent like streaming
releases was, was OK, well, we've got the, the print of the
movie that we use for the VHS. Let's just pull that and then
we'll throw that up on streaming.
So that's what they did. And then I guess that's what you
guys wound up watching here because I know exactly what
you're talking about. It happened on my Crooklyn
videotape and that's the only thing that would maybe makes
sense of doing that. That was weird, yeah.
Because I was thinking like I, I like exited out of my rental on
like my PlayStation and I was like, let me just let me just
like click back on it. Something might have happened,
you know, And then I was. Like, is this a choice to divide
both worlds? Is that Spike Lee you did here?
That's an odd choice. I was I was thinking I'd do like
a rap music video of like your mom yelling at you in your.
Bed. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And. You're like, you're like fucked
up waking up in the morning, kind of like.
But then it's, but then it stays.
It's not like a couple of minutes.
Then it's just like the rest of it.
And it's just like, oh, wait, that's not.
I don't think that was a purpose, Yeah.
Definitely, Yeah, it was. Yeah.
No good movie. I liked it.
I well, I guess you had asked me
what makes it not a A. Certified.
I did. I didn't want to ask again in
case you. Explained what I did, but it's
just I just I think it's too good.
I don't know, like it's just it's too much of a good regular
movie. Like, I don't, I don't think
it's audience is really I I'm sure a lot of black people
watched it back then, but like, I don't think that that was like
a institutional black family movie that like was in every
black person's house. You know what I mean?
That like white people go, what the fuck is this?
You know, like, like it's, it's, it's just too much like
universal, like, like, you know, appeal, I think.
Yeah, No, that's it. That's actually a very good
point. I think Spike Lee is kind of a
bridge between those two types of viewers there.
And you would not find this movie exclusively in that black
household. So no, that that's actually a
very good point. Yeah.
It, it kind of feels like a like an episode of Everybody Hates
Chris without the comedy, without like the obvious jokes
that that show would make where it's, it's just, it feels very
family friendly somehow. Like, like it feels like a movie
that anyone could watch and it's safe for anyone, you know?
So I think that's why it wouldn't qualify.
Yeah. It's missing Terry Crews.
It's missing Terry Crews is what.
It's yeah, yeah, it's missing, like you said, it's missing the
threat of rape some or something, you know, something
horrible. Well, because I was like, all
right, somebody's going to get shot, somebody's going to get
stabbed. I was thinking like Delroy Lindo
was going to get in, like get arrested, you know, something
that was going to really put the family in a in a bad spot.
Wish To be fair, something does happen, but it's just much more
in the realm of like any family's possibility, I guess,
where, you know, I was just. But again, I think it works
really well. I like the scene at the end.
It's sad. I teared up a little bit with
Alfred Woodard on the porch step, You know, I mean, I was
like, I like that. It's an interesting ending,
though. It's kind of like, not exactly.
It's like a a bit too artsy, the ending I think like compared to
what you'd see in a lot of these other films.
Where like you kind of. Yeah, you kind of have to have
like $0.50 like and get rich or die trying where $0.50 like I'm
not going to kill you. My friend's going to kill you.
And then yeah. And then Adam, Adam BC slash the
guy from the mummy, he gets shot and like, like that is a lot of
the ways how this movie, these movies have to end typically
like, you know, the just, it just feels like that's they have
to be triumphant. They're kind of like action
films in a way. Like, like.
Yeah, removing the the bulletproof vest because I'm not
afraid anymore. Fuck.
That dude caught me in the face anyways that was the worst part
was they caught me in the jaw so it doesn't even work.
I'm going to take my shirt off so you see all the holes that I
have in my torso. Hell.
Yeah, well, I have to go to, in my opinion, V certified good
classic, apparently. Apparently I'm alone here, but
the the film above the rim, the basketball movie where everybody
in this neighborhood can dunk and jam and everybody's good at
basketball. Everybody's like unreal good at
basketball in this neighborhood, which is literally fake news by
the way. There's like usually like 3 or 4
basketball players and then like really bad basketball players
that like still play every day. But anyways, this is above the
rim. This is directed.
Was it something Jeff Pollack? Is that the guy's name?
He just, he died suddenly. By the way, I don't know if
anybody knows this. He just died while he was out
for a run and nobody knows why. And his body was just left there
for a long time, just happened. He also is one of the many
people that created or at least produced Fresh Prince of Bel
Air. Yeah.
So he's got he's actually got his like, he's a guy.
He he that this there's a lot of like silly Fresh Prince moments
in this movie that almost don't really work.
But they are that they do in in a way, especially the Marlon
Wayne's character. But it stars Dwayne Martin.
I don't know if you guys know about Dwayne Martin.
Dwayne Martin's got some crazy stuff happening.
If you go to like like black YouTube, like black celebrities
exposed kind of thing where they'll be like these women who
have like YouTube channels where they'll be like, I'm going to
give you the T on Dwayne Martin when he married Tisha Campbell,
who is from Martin the Love and Regina from Martin and they had
like a 27 year marriage that ended and the whole time,
literally the whole time, there's just rumors that he's
gay the entire time, like and gay with Will Smith, by the way.
I was gonna say I feel like the same thing was said about Will
Smith and it always seems to be a recurring bit of oh, and then
they caught them cheating with him on a man.
Yeah, well, I mean again. And then you figure Jada
Pinkett, right? Jada Pinkett?
Who is the wife? Who does she fantasize about
fucking all the time? Tupac Shakur, who is in the
movie? Who is the opposite of what Will
Smith is? Well, he's a.
Theater. He's a theater kid, so.
OK. Yeah, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac did
method acting of of gangster rap like where he like straight up
became a guy who just shoots out of a car randomly.
Because was he a poet or something?
Well, his mom was like a Black Panther, like scholar, kind of
like college educated person. His mom was Asada Shakur and and
then he grew up going to like ballet school and stuff.
And like, I think, I think he's from Baltimore originally.
I could be wrong there. But then and then New York is
where he started making his initial, you know, first rap
stuff. I'm a like a pretty big fan.
It's funny when I go on Twitter and like, you'll go and you'll
hear like new rappers. Like I don't listen to Tupac.
I don't know what that it'll be like a little yachty or
something and be like, that's not what I listen to.
I don't like it, but then if you go to like in the Bay Area where
he's massive, especially in like Oakland and San Francisco, he
there's people with like shrines to him still like it's he's just
he's that big out here. And I've always really liked
him. But Dwayne Martin, though I will
say that there was the woman who did the expose on him did a
wonderful job and she had it was it had 980,000 views this video
that she had and she was selling beef jerky in between like every
every 5 minutes. And she was like, click here for
the snacks. I've got beef jerky, popcorn,
whatever you want. And, and it but it was really
good. And she would add her own
commentary and stuff like like Tisha Campbell was like Dwayne.
It was a big messy thing where like they ran out of money, but
Dwayne Martin was still making like 75,000 a month somehow.
And this is in like 2012. And and then he would go on
these mysterious trips with like guys to Turks and Caicos and
just not invite their wives and stuff.
And, and, and she would be in the background.
She'd be like, you know, he gay like in the background.
It's a really good video. I learned a lot.
But that being said, there's like many moments of people
talking about Dwayne Martin and and Will Smith.
Will Smith bought him like a Bentley randomly during The
Fresh Prince era, which is like that's probably not when Will
Smith had that much money. I know he was a rapper that had
some you know, but he wasn't. I doubt he made that much money
off rap. Not enough to buy a random guy a
Bentley is what I mean. A random guy, yeah.
Your boyfriend, though? Yeah.
Like your mom, Yeah. Yeah.
Exactly. So that's what and and and
that's what this YouTube was saying.
It's like, you know, that's that raises a red flag when he buys
his best friend to Bentley. Like it's really funny, but
yeah, I love above the rim. I don't know, apparently.
Apparently I'm wrong here. What?
Let me hear you guys thoughts. Well, I I enjoyed Above the Rim,
to be clear, but about midway through my viewing I got a
message from Hans that was like. Oh boy.
So I'm very curious to hear what what.
The basketball fan Hans does not.
Like this movie, I think because I'm a basketball fan.
I hate it every time they showed basketball.
I think he has the ugliest jump shoot I've ever seen.
He's played. He played college basketball
too, which is crazy, right 'cause he the little.
Dad he does the little girl jump he does with his that kicks his
legs out bother me so much throughout the movie.
I just, I don't think I had an issue with Dwayne Martin and
Leon being the most boring characters.
And there was there was too much charisma from the side
characters. So when you get to Leon and he
just has the same fucking face throughout the whole movie and
he just kind of like. Well, you know, I I don't know
if I considered them boring, but I'll tell you what, there is a
recurring trend with these hood movies.
Specifically I'm thinking Cuba Good Junior and Boyz N the Hood.
Then also the lead actor in Menace to Society, they are
overshadowed by the supporting cast because of that exact
reason of, OK, you have somebody who's much more charismatic is
like the breakout character and you don't really think about
their character when reflecting on the movie.
It's almost like you're watching How I Met Your Mother or any
sitcom where that lead character is just not going to pop the
same way. And Tupac in this movie I
thought was like the stand out. I thought anytime he's on
screen, he's got terrific screen presence.
Of course, Bernie Mac is terrific.
He's terrific in everything you know, so you can't go wrong
there. And then Marlon Wayans a lot of
a lot of gay jokes and behavior from Marlon vomiting on Tina's
size. That's the way where he's
pissing and he's like, I didn't know you was uncircumcised.
Yeah, and but it goes on for like 3 minutes where he's just
commenting and observing this man's Dick.
Yeah, no, Marl. And I will say Marlon Wayne, I
love Marlon Wayne is so good. He's just like man.
He's just, he's perfect for these films.
Yeah, too. I agree.
Tupac's great in this. Did you ever see that movie, I
can't remember what it's called, that he did with Jim Belushi.
Oh, it's a Tupac movie. It was like a crime, like kind
of like a a blue streak kind of tier movie, like where it was
white cop, black cop. It's called gang related.
Yeah, it's a good movie. I liked it.
I mean, haven't seen it in years, but I, I used to.
I watched like all the Tupac movies.
I'll tell you, the overrated 1 is Juice.
Everybody thinks Juice is good. I don't like Juice.
It's not a good movie. It's it's like really bad
actually, and I think this is actually a much better.
I I agree with you, though. Tupac's not exactly a star at
this point, though. That's what needs to be pointed
out is he is this is not getting all eyes on me just before his
death. 1996 Tupac in a movie. This is up kind of up and
coming. He's he had dropped Tupac Elyse
now, and I think he had dropped me against the world, which is
one of his best albums around that time.
But he's kind of just, you know, I don't know.
He wasn't like charting the way, you know, 2 Live Crew and all
these other people were at the time or, or, you know, Black
Street or a lot of these artists were doing at the time.
And rap was still like, is this commercial?
Is this actually selling? But but yeah, Tupac is, is a
real, I mean, he doesn't really do a lot.
He also gets shot in the movie, which is kind of interesting.
It's I completely agree on juice, same director as bones
juice. But I was going to say the best
Tupac movie. Nothing but trouble.
That's a good movie. Yeah, that's a good movie.
I haven't seen it in years, but I remember like I liked, I
really was like, damn. I think he would have gone the
route of only being an actor after a while because people
would always. There was like a big kind of
like Facebook meme thing be like, man, I wish Tupac was
around to school. These young rappers, like old
heads would post that on Facebook in like 2008.
And now I'm like, no, he would have been doing like movies like
only he would have been like. He would have went the ice cube
route. Or like common, you know what I
mean, which common sucks at acting, but, you know, just he
would have done that thing where he's like, I don't, I just wear
like turtlenecks now. And I'm, I act, you know, like
that's, that's what he would have done after a while.
And yeah, like Ice Cube. And I think he would have been
damn good. I think he would have aged into
a really, really good actor. I think he would have done like
a weird like, like roll like like like a weird role like
that. You wouldn't expect them like a
like, you know, like an Oscar and bait role.
Like when 50 got eights for a movie.
That's right. That's.
Right. A movie nobody saw.
What was that movie? I don't.
Remember I. Had their profile picture of
that for a while like that. He saw Christian Bale do the
Machinist and was like, that's how we do it.
It's called All. It's called All Things Fall
Apart. Wow, that name does not.
Yeah, including. That including your white blood
cell count, yeah. Mario von Peebles directed it.
Wow, that's. Great has Ray Liotta's.
I was gonna say, was that one of his Val Kilmer 'cause he did
like a series of Val Kilmer team up movies?
And Ray Liotta still has movies coming out.
I just saw he a Snoop Dogg movie.
The Snoop Dogg produced a movie that I don't.
It must have been filmed in like 2020 or something or 2019.
There was a movie with Ray Liotta I just saw a trailer for
when I went and saw Fright Flight Risk.
Which version of his face is in that movie?
I don't know. I was like, dude, this guy died
of Chantix not that long ago, but like and the so I yeah, I
love the soundtrack of this movie too.
That's a really big selling point because if these movies
aren't good, which I I think this movie is, but if these
movies aren't good and you like rap, especially, particularly
90s rap, it just becomes a big music video, typically with like
or like basketball highlight video.
By the way, Bernie Mac not bad. Not a bad basketball player.
I was watching. I was like, whoa, Max got a
little moves because they were laughing at him.
I'm like, yeah, but this was better than Dwayne Martin, so,
but whatever. But I know the idea was that
they were really good basketball players.
But Tupac has some really good songs on the album, including
The Pain, which is like the intro to the movie and then pour
out a little liquor, which is at the end when the guy the
shooting happens. Also a big meme came from this
movie, which is Wood Harris, who I love.
Wood Harris is is great. Wood Harris had had pulling the
gun out. That's a big meme on like Black.
Huge the huge bag and a tiny gun.
Well, people, they'll use it. They'll use it for NBA memes,
like where it'll be like when, you know, Jalen Rose when Kobe
had 78 points on him instead and was about to get to 82.
And it'll be like Wood Harris pulling the gun out, you know?
And it's it's really good, which is an insane scene.
Like, we were like, holy shit, I didn't know this was going
there. And that was back before college
athletes could get paid. So it was a big deal that, like,
Tupac gave Dwayne Martin a bunch of money or let him let him make
money. Yeah.
Lot of lot of lot of really good.
Oh, by the way, I have a bone to.
I think Leon's great. I love Leon one name like Ichiro
and he and he he's but it's crazy if you look at his
filmography, he's a music biopic guy.
He was in the 1998 Temptations miniseries, which I love.
I've watched all the time when it was on VH1.
He played David, he played David Ruffin.
He played Little Richard in a movie which apparently it's AG
rated Little Richard movie so probably some of the.
How does that work? Yeah, probably.
Some of the biggest Little Richard moments.
And I might, I might $100 tier that one for movies.
The the only man ever, the only man to ever be arrested for
being a cuck. Little Richard.
Yeah, that's what I mean. I'm like, what's in the movie
like. Yes, he he was arrested for for
watching his girlfriend get banged out in a car back in 1950
something. He's gay.
Yeah, because. He's yeah, yeah.
He's just like, whatever, you can do that.
He's even Liberace. He's.
Even that he's that gay. He's as straight as they come.
He hated gays at the end of his life.
Yeah. Because they gave him AIDS.
Didn't you see every interview that they would have?
I'd be mad. The interviews that would have
with him in like Liberace in like the 60s or whatever,
whatever, and then be like women.
That's just so many women out there for you.
It's. Just two Bros talking and then
the two alphas and yeah beyond. The I mean, let's be fair
Liberace, he is I I will give him the alpha thing.
He turned his boyfriend into whatever he want into.
Him himself. He stoked his boyfriend into
himself. Yeah, he he was.
He had sex with Matt Damon a bunch of times as my yeah.
That's yeah, that's pretty pretty.
Bad Best Soderbergh movie in my. I love that movie.
The Beyond the Candelabra is great.
I told my Co worker about it and he was a black guy and I was
like, yeah, and it's just Michael Douglas getting his ass
pounded in the movie and he's like why?
I want to see that. I'm like, why wouldn't you want
to see that? It's a great fucking concept
because he's like, this is great.
And he's like, and but yeah, that's gay Michael Douglas.
It's literally come down. It's literally a come.
Down like what's? Happening gay actor Michael
Douglas. Yeah, it's literally what
happens in the day. He didn't respond well to that,
but that was. Yeah, that.
But Leon is also in a movie that I'm covering pretty soon here, a
cliffhanger starring Sylvester Stallone.
Leon is in that movie and he's you want to talk about if you
think he doesn't have, if he's boring, he's one thing he's not
in that movie is boring. He walks around, they get he's
the only guy that they give an Uzi and this is a Denver Co,
Denver, Co snow mountain movie. There's a black guy and he's
come, he's bundled up the most out of everybody, which is
really fun. And and he's like he's got an
Uzi. Everybody else has got these
sick like military grade, like Michael Mann, heat guns and then
he's got like the the drive by Uzi, which is great.
It's just a sideways. Yeah.
So, yeah. But I, I used to love, I used to
love seeing Leon in in movies. And I, I don't know if that was
really him playing ball, but he could play in in above the rim.
He he had some moves. He was playing without the ball
because that's important. Is he?
Is he one of the main guys from Cool Runnings?
He is in cool runnings, yes. He looks familiar.
I think he's doing a lot of Toby original stuff now.
I looked at his IMDb and there's a lot of stuff in like 20.
There's a lot of like BMF shows, that BMF Gang show that's like
happening about the the BMF Black mob.
Yeah, yeah, he's in. There's like 15 of those shows
and he's in all of them I think, or something so.
Yeah, that was BET Plus is the. Yeah, his his latest film credit
is First Lady of BMF, The Tanessa Welch Story and that is
yes for BET Plus. Who could forget Tanessa Welch?
But yeah, the yeah, I, I don't know.
I, I'm a, I'm an above the rim. I'm an above the rim fan.
I I love Wood Harris because I just watched Southland Tales the
other day and he's in randomly in Southland Tales married to
Amy Poehler and they're radical communists.
That's that happened. And but yeah, I.
After the wire, that's where you cast them on.
That's that's an odd choice. Such a sick name too.
It's such like a like like cuz there was, there was like those.
Another genre that maybe we should explore is black romantic
comedies cuz those are great too.
I don't know if you've seen any of those like All about Eve and
or All About Eva. All about Eva.
It's a play on All About Eve. What's the Jamie Foxx with Pam
Grier one? That one's I know.
Tommy Robinson is in it. That one Tommy Robinson.
Yeah. No, no.
Tommy Robinson. Tommy Davidson.
Yeah, I know what I was talking about.
It's where they're they spend an hour trying to buy lambskin.
Booty call. Yeah, booty call.
Booty. Call.
From the director of Above the Rim, I believe.
Oh, is it? I think so.
Jeff Pollock was tapped into the hood, man, I'll tell you.
And but you know, I mean like more like 2003, like the cover
of these romantic comedies would be like the, the, the 2003 and
it'll be like a rose with like Morris Chestnut holding a rose
on the front of it. But it would be really silly.
They're they're really silly. They're very funny.
My wife and I went on a binge on some of these that are really
good and they always have Gabrielle Union and she's really
mean in all of them. Totally not true in real life,
I'm sure. But the But yeah, you had guys
like named Wood Harris and Morris Chestnut and they're not
doing porn, I don't think. Maybe.
Another time I I've watched a few of these on on to be
probably of like how Stella got her groove back love and
basketball. You know, there's a there's one
that's waiting to exhale, waiting to exhale.
That was a good one, that. One don't, don't, don't.
What is it? Don't cheat if you ain't
praying. That's Whitney Houston, right?
Don't touch if you ain't praying too with Kel Mitchell, did you
say don't shit if you ain't praying?
No, I said don't. I don't even know what I said.
Yeah. No, that's a certified hood
class. Yeah, maybe not a classic.
It's just Hood. Yeah, it's.
Just certified. This is what it is.
Just certified. But yeah, I love, yeah.
I'm above the Rims. My my winner.
I think of this, I, I like it slightly more than Crooklyn
because I like that itself, because I'll pit it against get
rich or die trying. Above the Rim knows exactly what
it is. It's almost a tight 90 minutes.
I think it's like an hour and 36 minutes or something.
It's it's right. It's it's right where it needs
to be. There's a little Comic Relief.
I think it has. If you were making a cauldron of
the certified hood classics, you put every ingredient in that's
in there and it's again, it's it can't be too good.
That's the thing. Like you can't be too good
because then you're Crooklyn. That's too good.
You know, like that that could be shown at film school, you
know, like this is all these things.
This is like cheap kind of even though I'm sure there was a
decent budget for it to be honest, because this dude had
just created a smash hit TV show.
I don't know if he created The Fresh Prince, but I think it was
him and Will Smith. Basically Jeff Pollack created
Fresh Prince so they I think they gave this dude a shit ton
of money. Dwayne Martin had been on 2
episodes of of Fresh Prince and that was where him and Will
Smith started becoming alpha male Bros together on the on the
set of that and because because during that I keep coming back
to that video I watched about Dwayne Martin.
It was unreal. Is it?
Is it exposing Dwayne Martin hot stanking mess because I pulled?
Out. Yeah, yeah.
By RRG it's called R. RGRR.
G Yeah, she is fantastic. I want to be watching this.
I believe that'll be on a certified good classics volume
three well. Because people, you know, the
big thing that happened with Will Smith was like, Oh my God,
this guy, he's of course he's going insane.
His wife is like cooking him with like R&B singers that are,
you know, 25 years old or something.
It's like also he's maybe because he's gay.
Yeah, I think it's a little rich.
Situation. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
And it's like, that's why it why did how did this go on for so
long? And it was so out in the open.
And as I remember, Jada would have her daughter, I think it
was Willow Smith would be writing love letters to like,
Tupac or not love letters. But like, we miss you, Tupac.
And she doesn't know Tupac. She was like born after he died.
And so, like, all these things would happen.
So, you know, I mean, you, you think of an alternate universe
where Will Smith is just openly gay and then Jada Pinkett and
and Jada Pinkett marries Tupac, and then he's never not hanging
out in Las Vegas that fateful night at Caesar's Palace, and he
doesn't die. He has Will Smith's career
instead. Yeah.
Oh, he does Bad boys with Martin Lawrence.
That would be crazy. But yeah, well, well, that whole
video, that whole video, though, was Tisha Campbell, who it was
kind of a this lady did a really good job of talking about like
what was happening on the set of Martin versus Will Smith and
Dwayne Martin's stuff. I guess Martin Lawrence was just
getting me too to everyday on the set of Martin, like all day.
They were like, she was like to the point where she went to the
to to the writer. Tisha Campbell was like, can you
stop filming us in bed together? And they're like, well, you're
like a couple in the show. And she's like, yeah, but he
keeps like, he keeps like, like, he's like, he's like raping me
in bed. Maybe is Martin Lawrence just
pulling his Dick out while I work?
Back I don't know how much. He's getting actually naked
under the covers. Yeah, I know.
And if you know anybody who loves that show and I've
watched, I've watched it here and there, never like from the
beginning to the end or anything, but I've watched it
here and there. It's quite funny.
But the if you know it, you're like, wow, they look like so
good together. You know, like they'll totally
seem like they'd be like married in real life, her and Martin
Lawrence and the whole time she was with Dwayne Martin.
But then also, if you're Dwayne Martin, wouldn't you go to like
Martin Lawrence and be like, hey, man, I don't, I don't like
what you do in my life unless you're gay?
Unless you're like, someone has to do it.
Yeah, I'll do the I'll do the scenes.
I'll do the scenes in bed with Martin Lawrence instead.
Of yeah when you when you asked Loras earlier if he grew up like
watching these movies. I think my thing was more TV
show than movies. So for me it was more Wayans
brothers, Jamie Foxx show and I think in living color were the
ones that were just in the concert rotation growing up,
which is why I have such a big appreciation for a young Marlon
Wayans that I always find to be fun to watch.
I'm not not sure about the later, but I I just feel like
his energy and and his charisma when he's young is is is great.
He's great on screen. So I was a big fan of him here.
Yeah, but that that was he's friends of that.
Show. Yeah, exactly.
And and then, like Tisha Campbell in that video says, she
goes and then she left Martin and then she got another sweet
gig on my wife and kids. I don't know if you guys ever
watched that. Oh yeah, I watched that.
That was. A good show.
Too back in the ABC he was just crushing back then I forgot how.
Like I forgot how insane ABC was.
Like during that time. It was just it.
Was Damon right? That was Damon was my personal
favorite Wayans. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
I mean, he is great. I like I like almost all the
Wayne's brothers man like Keenan Ivory I.
Mean Keenan, you got to give Keenan Ivory credit for
arranging the whole family really to become stars.
Was there anything weird that happened with their family
because I'm surprised there's no like Jackson's biography about
the Wayne's brothers. Or were they just hyper normal?
I I don't know if they were hyper normal, but I haven't
heard anything come out. I mean, there's enough of them
where you would think somebody would steal something.
You got to dude. But yeah, I think, well, guys, I
mean, First off, this is such a fun trend.
I mean, the ball's in your court now for movies.
We got to pick more 'cause we got, we got to go through this
whole genre, 'cause I wanted to come back.
And I, and ironically, I think $0.50's the only person that
could ever bring it back, to be honest.
Like I think he actually like knows what these movies are and
he has the money to just throw behind it to like who cares if
it makes any money? And as theaters are dying, like
you could just make you could just literally I guess Tubi is
technically the streaming service, but if there was like
another like streaming service where it was just only this
stuff, I bet you would sell out. And if it was just like $1.00 a
month, $1.00 a month, but that's the only type of movie that was
on there, I bet you'd work and I bet you would bring the genre
back. But we need to do a movie with
Mike Epps in it. We haven't done anything with
Mike Epps in it. Who is my favorite?
Like literally one of my favorite comedians of all time.
People were talking about the Bo Burnham special.
I was like, I didn't watch any of that.
I was watching Mike Epps talk about how his mom thought he was
retarded until he was 10. And she was like, you was
retarded when you was a kid. He's like, shut up, Mama.
No, I wasn't like. She goes well, you don't.
You don't like the bed of oh, I dropped that because I was on
purpose. I actually now you don't know if
I dropped it on purpose or not. Was that on purpose or not?
Fucking. You're right, That is funny.
Actually, I do like that, yeah. I love when that just goes on
for 10 minutes, isn't that? You don't get it, dude.
It's ironic. It's it's four, it's 4 layers of
irony you just don't get. Whereas Mike Epps just goes, my
mom thought I was retarded and it's way funny.
Like I'm just like, you guys need to.
Why? Because that was where I got a
lot of my like I was listening to rap, but then I watched Kings
of Comedy, the, the original kings of comedy cause Comedy
Central was played late and you know, Steve Harvey's talking
about killing kids in Afghanistan.
Bernie Mac is like unreal, untouchably good.
Like in it. And then, and then I think it
was, I think it was DL was one of them and Sedgwick the
entertainer who were the, they were the two weaker ones, but
they were still very good. And I, I just remember thinking
like, damn, these dudes are funny as hell.
And then I watched Mike Epps special a bunch of times.
Like I had it on DVDI bought it from like a used record store
for like $3 and and I watched it all the time.
But we do need to cover a movie with Mike Epps.
I would guess all about the Benjamins.
I love that movie when I. Was a kid.
There you go. I don't know if you guys have
seen that film. I feel like it wound up in my
again, not to keep sighting Toby, but literally Toby
rotation when I watch the Friday movies and then first Sunday.
I feel like it eventually brought me to All about the
Benjamins. So I think I have seen it.
Yeah. If we, I mean, it's only a
matter of we got to do Certified Hood Classics Volume 3.
The Players Club is going to be one of my selections absolutely
because we. She was a big part of the Dwayne
Martin saga. Lisa Ray was a big part of the
Dwayne because her husband was rumored to be in Turks and
Caicos with Dwayne Martin. There's a there's a whole like
the me too, the the black me too's that I haven't heard any
of these. So I'm like, I'm like, I like,
yeah, the DL, the DL Hughley's, that's what they call it.
And the cause. What was his show called?
DL Hughley? What was his?
I think, Well he had a claymation show didn't he on
UPN? Yeah.
Or wasn't it just called the Hughleys?
I think it was just called the Hughleys.
Yeah, but anyways, like I was like the, the, the, the, the
black Hollywood. Me too.
I haven't heard any of these. I was like, these are
incredible. I think they're all just gay
outing stories really. Yeah, gay outing.
And then just like a bunch of women, like group chatting each
other. My husband's gay.
And then?
They all start a podcast about how their husband's gay.
Yeah. Incredible stuff.
Well, guys, yeah, I'll get this out as soon as possible.
If you're in Italy, I don't, I haven't checked our analytics in
Italy. There's got to be 1 of you.
And we need you guys to rise to
the call and. Absolutely.
Lottery Korea too, right? Wasn't.
There Yeah, we we we did the Seoul was the 1st place that it
was premiered for the Seoul Extreme Film Festival.
That was back in March. I think it was March 30th and
yeah, Italy is Next up and then hopefully United States and that
we I you know, I don't want to have to go rent a theater might
it's actually it's pretty expensive no matter even for
like dumpy little theaters is pretty.
I heard you talking about that on a show.
I was like, Oh my God, Sai and I always talk about this after
because we always like I'm so glad we don't make movies like
it's just like just the the how long you have to like hold on to
them for. I mean, and obviously you love
mass state lottery and I I do too after watching it, but
because like. Just.
Sitting on something for so long is like.
It's, it's really difficult. It's extremely difficult and now
I'm learning like because I, I, I'm probably going to be doing
Blu rays. I'm learning how to do that
whole process now, just in case that.
Works that'll play well with like the whole sphere here
because everybody wants to. That'll play really well.
It's a good. So I'm looking into that right
now, but for the moment we're playing in Rome on April 18th at
the Cinema 4 Chana Festival. So check that out if you're in
Rome, I guess. The next Fellini guys is here
and he's playing in Rome. Go see it, Hans.
Pleasure having you on Great. Always, always great and I can't
wait for certified hood Classics 3.
It it's a hood classic in itself the series, so we might have to
release those on. Blu-ray.
Yeah, we'll put this on Tubi. I've thought about it like.
How hard is it to get? Your podcast stream to Tubi.
How hard is it? I don't think.
It's that hard. How much do you have to pay?
Yeah, it can't be that much. It can't be that much to just
no, to just be like, at the end of the day, like.
Watch the latest episode of Rare Candy on Tubi.
I would love that. That's that's I we might have
just stumbled upon a really great idea right here.
I will literally, we're about to wrap up.
I'm literally going to look that up.
It says here there's no cost to upload to Tubi, no.
In fact, they don't trust creators for for a series I've
heard people getting like for these backyard we're shooting
with just a little. Dude, I would love to have no.
Deal. Phone I would love for a like a
woke person who like maybe thinks what we were saying
wasn't like exactly. I don't think we were being
racist at all, but like maybe someone said and they, they do
the Neil Young Joe Rogan thing with like, I'm pulling all my
content off of Toby until you get until you get these white
freaks off of Toby. Yeah, apparently you get paid 8
cent. No, sorry.
Eight. Yeah, $0.08 per view.
That's not good, but that's not the worst.
I don't get a lot on I don't guess how many cents I get on
YouTube Zero. So yeah, I don't think thinking
about this. That's interesting.
I'm that's not a bit. I'm thinking about it so.
I mean, OK, I think that the thing you need to to search for
is, is there any podcasts that are on TV?
And if there's not, there we go first.
Podcast, my husband's name is Dwayne Martin, he's gay podcast.
That's the one that is the one on there.
So all right guys, well, everyone have a safe.
We can catch you guys next time.