Just scared of us. It's why they don't want people
to see us down there in Washington.
D.c. here. Talk about the we are designated
as a threat. I don't know, I don't consider
myself a threat. If if your goal is to restore
the Constitution and their goal is to keep the emergency going,
then you very much are a threat. Guess that would be the case,
wouldn't it? Well then in that case.
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We be in the mix with a rare candy.
Paint job on a with who you it. So, I'm here with the, with a
road warrior. Here, you know, first time he's
got his recurring guest first time he was on our show, you
know, he's just covering covid seem like, you know, maybe a
little bit of traveling here and there we just kind of covering
around there, but then you just were like, hey, I'm just going
to go across the country and follow these truckers around
here. So I'm here with Jeremy, Le
Fredo. He's been doing a lot of work
with Rebel news and even I'm going to do my best to get some
of those Videos and insert them into this episode because some
of that stuff's been really great.
Because right now, in America covid discourse, at least
amongst, you know, other than like, oh man, this government
official. God.
It's kind of at a standstill even in, you know, the bay area
where I'm at. Its kind of at a standstill,
everybody's kind of moving on. But there is seem like this,
these gray clouds above us, where it could, they could have
been in, they could have rain coming from them at some point.
So Jeremy, what, why the hell'd you do that, man?
Did you follow the trucker's? Yeah, I saw the the Canadian
truckers just getting like beat down in the street and I was in
New York so really if I wanted to go up to like where they were
it was like maybe like a 10-hour drive and I was thinking like
you know I'm just going to go see the the Canadian truckers
and without the facts I wouldn't have been able to come back to
America or get into Canada. So it was it was like a no go,
right? And I saw that there was People
here who were angry about, you know, mandates and the the
emergencies Act and the trucker's started their own, you
know, they're planning a convoy here.
So I just I was like this will this will be amazing to live
with the trucker's to follow them.
Whatever happens happens. They're going to go to d.c.
because I just I followed them and it ended up being a
two-month Journey, right? And before we get too far into
that leading up to it, like, okay, what mandates right in
America like, So I mean you know it's a valid question is dumb.
I kind of understand it but just for the sake of people who don't
understand like right OSHA lost 6 and 3 for the federal mandate,
right? So case closed right.
I mean or not what are the what are they protesting?
What exactly what mandates are they protesting these trucks?
So like you hear that all the time from like you know the
reply guys or you know in the mainstream media they'll be like
there there there's a convoy and they're protesting mandates but
there are no mandates ha ha and Then, you know, thinking it's
like a gotcha moment and there's actually like a cross-border
vaccine many a federal mandate for crossing the border both of
our borders, Mexico and Canada. And truckers you know they
that's like 60 percent of. A lot of their work is just
going to Canada coming back. So they have been like the
ability to put food on their tables as been like dramatically
reduced ever since the cross-border vaccine mandate and
they were protesting that mandate which does exist and you
know like they would never Never mentioned that in any mainstream
media report like that they have a valid cause and there's also
the the federal emergencies act which was like originally signed
by Trump and the beating of covid.
And then it was just recently resigned by Biden and that kind
of gives them like carte blanche to do whatever the fuck they
want. Like they can, you know, that's
like any lockdown policy or even like an emergency use
authorization like all of those things like stem from the fact
that we are currently Only like in a crisis and an emergency
mode and Biden, just resigned that right before the Convoy
left. Damn, so okay.
So, she writes because there's always, it's never just like
this side, beat this side, there's always like, okay, yeah,
that might have happened. However, I'm a private business.
I decided that you need to do this, and the, the there was a
guy there named gourd and I think he's back on Twitter, but
he, he was on Good Old, Boys podcast, whose are just our last
guest on there being then, on the good old boys.
Podcast. He's a trucker and Canada
Canadian trucker and they would say, like, yes, I'm guys, you
gotta go across country lines like it happens.
It's a thing and and for Canada. I don't like may not be having
the numbers correct, but it was like an O, an astounding amount
of days that they would have to quarantine yes 1214.
Yeah. And this is a run.
They normally make in a day home for dinner or maybe not home for
dinner, but may be there, maybe they're, you know, they're rest
taking a rest or something like that.
That is a route that they do in a day but that's out of their
own pocket. These people they make it.
So you Internal in a living where it's like, okay.
Maybe you can do one run or week, you know?
One run every other week like the quarantine for half a month
as it that much. It's incense like two weeks.
Yeah. So yeah.
It's not, oh, there's no mandate but there's protocol that
basically is a mandate to where, you know, we'll hold your head
under, you know, basically tell you say uncle, you know, I can.
So, yeah, I find that fascinating and that's probably
why the trucker's were the spearhead, right?
Of this was essentially why that is because, you know, the nurses
have a mandate still write. The the The medical industry
still has a mandate. Like these are things that got,
you know, it's nice to win the Supreme Court thing.
It is nice. I mean it was it was great but
like, you know, forget about there are still a lot of people
who been coerced. Yeah, course to for a forced.
I mean, it's for I would even say Force, like, to be honest
like like it's like, you know you at the end of the day, like
when your livelihood is tied to your employment, I mean, come
on. Yeah, we say Force for a lot of
other stuff that isn't forced. Do you know what I mean?
Like, we say way more stuff, like where like there's an
ethical choice, that could happen where people say they're
forced. This was actually a matter of
like if you have kids like, you know, I mean you can tell you
you're gonna value your bodily autonomy over you know I mean
over feeding your family, like most of the time you're not
right. Like most of the time you are,
you're sacrificing that. So this is a choice.
These people should have had to make.
And like, you couldn't even their own State, like Alaska,
you need to travel through Canada, to get to Alaska.
So now you can't even last a lot of Is come there your truck and
because there's not much going on there so you can even make a
run to Alaska anymore. If your route was going to
Alaska to bring supplies to Alaska, that's you need the
vaccine. That's it.
You're going to Canada, exactly. It's terrible and okay.
So so you decide you decide to hop on this summer.
I had been kind of talking to you Loosely through the hole
through the whole time so it was kind of a fascinating thing to
watch because you disappear for like a week, you know.
I mean like I could see why you should be like hey I'm nam in
this hotel, you What I mean? Like, I'm like, that's crazy.
I guess it was fascinating thing.
Like, it almost. If you ever seen Joe Dirt?
Yes, you reminded me like, this is what reminds me of your on
like my videos, but only like a Joe Dirt story right now, like
it's kind of, its kind of reminds me of that because it's,
it's crazy, right? You follow these people around.
So what do you how do you, how do you first off?
How do you do this? How do you, how do you basically
say, I'm stepping away from my life.
I mean, granted, you are a journalist but like, you you to
side, I mean, to say that slur to you, but you do whatever
media you do things in the meaning of this.
Yeah, any want to say the j-word do?
But nonetheless, you know, you do that.
So it's not necessarily stepping away from your life but it kind
of is, right? Like you you basically drop
everything to do this represent. I was like, even like I left
February 22, 23. And it was, you know, it's
winter time and now I'm back and it's warm out.
The flowers are blooming, like it was, it was like a Time Warp,
really. But I knew that it would be
super interesting and I knew I would get a bunch of great
reporting and And I just did it. I just left.
Yeah. And so, you know, like I said, I
read every, this is all on Rebel news, right?
I want to make sure people can rub them.
There's a lot of time at any, every anything you put on video.
It seemed to be in that spot. Correct?
Yeah, yeah, it's perfect. So, check it out on Rebel news,
check out Jeremy's Journey there, but let's talk about some
things here. When did it first start getting
crazy, was it right off the bat? When you re like, wow, we left
from Adelanto, California on the 23rd and headed east from there.
We drove about like four or five hours a day, so it took like 10
or 11 days to get across the country.
And I mean, the first journey across like public support was
overwhelming like a brought many of the trucker's to tears like
you would see these big Burly truckers just crying.
Yeah. And there wasn't one overpass
from Allah to a California to Hagerstown Maryland.
All right, it's like 2,400 miles.
There was not one overpass that didn't have, you know, dozens,
if not hundreds of people, just cheering and just just there to
see the trucks pass by. And I would go to the overpass
and be like, you know, what's up, what's going on?
And they would be like, we traveled for hours just to come
to the overpass. And I'd be like, why?
And they would be like, well, you know, we want to show our
kids, what it's like to stand up for her like, you know, our our
sacred freedoms and you know, this and that and so it was like
really important. A lot of people, especially in
Middle America, but, you know, hundreds of people thousands.
When you add them all together, across the country, we're
supporting the truckers. And when they would stop, they
didn't have to like bring food or they didn't have to, you
know, plan meals or anything. It would be like the local
community would know, the trucker's were stopping there
and they would bring you no grills and food and everything
to their stopping point for the night and just cook the
trucker's. 300, truckers dinner, it would be like an entire and
we would just bring food, you know, at one point like I think
a Rancher donated 500 pounds of beef to the trucker's dinner and
they just made burgers and they just everywhere.
You went. There would be a local
community, supporting the trucker's.
It was wild, insane, insane. And and like, okay, you don't,
you don't look like a truck. Yeah, you don't look, you don't
look like that, you know, dude, were there any kind of like
what's this guy's problem? You know?
I mean, like, look at like, what is this guy?
Like, cause you're asking questions, right?
I mean, you're doing a diary, like, do they do they think
you're a Fed, do they think? Is, it says, do you think maybe
your of these Guys here to, you know, wrap me out on something
like, what do they well, how were you received it first?
Yeah, so I in the beginning, none of the trucker's wanted to
really talk to the media, like none of them.
Like there's an overwhelming distrust of the media just,
like, by the nature of this Convoy.
Like they don't trust the TV to tell them about covid.
They don't trust the government. Like, there's a lot of the, you
know, these are people who are protesting mandates like there,
that's the kind of people they are and their truckers.
And I would walk up to him and At first, they were a little,
they didn't want to talk to me and then they saw the rebel news
Mike and right. They saw they were like inspired
by what happened in Canada and they would always see the rebel
news, Mike in Canada. So they knew that I was working
for like a friendly media Outlet.
So and then once I got to know them, you know, I spent two
months with them, they all they just treated me like a trucker.
At the end of the day, it's like a Disney movie did.
It was like, yeah, yeah, it was like, most things were like, you
know, like you've come from like the other side and you're like,
hey man, this guy can skate. He's all right.
Right, you know, like, only one of those.
Probably one of those movies. That's cool.
So, okay, now, some of the videos, look real chaotic,
right? You start seeing like, I don't
want to get too far ahead of where we are.
I want to stick chronologically but like, you know, some videos
you see like eggs getting thrown.
You see ya, I'm all that stuff so, you know.
Yeah, that's nice. People came out and cooked
dinner for these truckers and all that stuff, but people came
out and we're disrespectful. I sniffling.
Yeah, I mean once, like, when we started Adelanto, there was, you
know, there was a few middle fingers while we were on the
highway leaving, California? And then in, in Oakland once,
they went back to California after like a month, it was like
antifa type, you know, like lives in California and they
just brought hundreds of eggs and the trucker's were there,
honking their horns in a neighborhood of a policy maker.
That's trying to mandate the vaccine for children and public
events. Like and is that his name is
that I'm sorry. Is that side that?
What's that guy's name? The, the politician.
That's true. And two, there's one guy named
Richard pan and he's Richard, and he's put his name on
everything. Every bad mandate.
He's, his name is there and so they went to a neighborhood
again. It's a tiny little residential
neighborhood, really narrow streets and they bring like 40
trucks, they're they're all honking and hundreds of eggs.
At the trucks, hundreds of eggs, they're hitting truckers in the,
in the face. And the, in the leg, there was
one interesting comment, where you see a trucker get hit with
an egg. And he says something in the
lady yells, you know. Go get a job you couldn't get a
job to save your grandmother's life and he says my grandma died
from the shop and she goes no she didn't and through another a
get him. So these people like we're not
there, they like we're very unhappy with the truckers and
they were they don't like Freedom at all and they love the
vaccine. How insane is that that like
somebody, because it, and I've seen this happen in real time to
where it's like I lost a family member to this and do I know you
didn't know they're just don't, yeah.
Yeah, no other Cause of death other than like a lie, like
alien abduction matters, like what a twitch.
Hey, I'm not even. Yeah, I don't know.
I probably don't even like scoff at that anymore, to be honest.
But like you know, for the most part alien abduction and like
someone dying from a Pfizer shot that you know just got cooked up
and and mandated for something that a lot of people don't need.
That's just you can't you know they'll believe any of the covid
death numbers but not that. Yeah, not exactly.
I like like there's no Nuance to Any of those, but just the fact
that like even if it is rare, right?
Just for someone to be like, well, let you know this happened
there, like it's actually never, it's not even rare.
They just have to say it's rare. It's actually never happened.
No one has actually died from this.
Like I it's wild. It's people's like it's people's
automatic reflexive response to do it and it's like I say, like
find somebody that loves you the way that these people love
Pfizer, because I've never seen anything like that.
I have never seen anything like it in my life, man.
If they like what they hear, you know, Two million children, died
from covid. Are like, it's so sad.
If these people just put on masks and then like one guy is
like my mom had a bad reaction to this experimental shot and
died. It's like yeah, right.
No, I don't believe that and it's just like a yeah, it's just
a crazy thing. Anyways, let me throw on this
theranos Hulu series. Wouldn't who fell for this?
You know, isn't that? It's insane, not to get to off
topic there, but it's like it's insane.
Like the people they're like, oh, the Sackler brought.
Oh man, punish the Sackler family.
It's like, yeah, but keep going. And yeah, you know, like that's
how the entire industry functions.
Yeah that's that's just the Playbook and and and these are
people who like if you ask them they like they like a lot of
them, like Bernie like you know they don't like industry.
You know, they think the industry is controlling the
government and then you're like, what about this industry?
And they're like, shut up, I like that industry, do well, you
know, know they they yes you're correct.
They also think that industry is not accessible.
We've talked about this on here that they do.
They think the problem with that industry is that one it's not
like Around or something. And then do that like the
product is their hoarding the product, because, umm, because
of capitalism's, and it's like, all right, man like that.
No, like I said, trust me, that is not the issue.
They're forcing, that's in the people.
They're literally forcing this and if he were free.
Yeah, it's not a Eugenics. I mean, if it is it's definitely
not a Eugenics program in the way they're thinking, where it's
like all the white people in America, get vaccinated, none of
the people of color but I've seen like the Eugenics argument
will be like it is eugenics. And you like Okay, go on.
And yeah, it's eugenics in the way that like they're not making
the vaccine available to, you know, poor and black people
because they want them to die, right?
And it's like whoa that's that's really lead opposite.
Yeah. It's like a it's like a plea.
You know, I'm well I guess it's very funny.
That's exactly. Like the way I've been hearing
that for a while. That's those are the most
frustrating. People is the people that you
know, that side of the stream here.
The people that you know are are like Other than this I mean same
time you they probably aren't you know but at the same time
kind of like dude like I If you're just like a you know
North Face Patagonia NPC guy with like a Hydra flash just
like standing around like Ukraine sticker at just add it
to it. Like if you're that guy you know
I expect that from you. I know isn't very good.
We this is a thing I can see, but went, but man, when it's
like when you want to challenge all authority, when you know,
you're an anarchist and all this stuff, it's like hey man, If you
want to burn shit down, that's first place to go, dude.
Yeah, I don't know, man, it's just nuts.
What's up sigh? Hey, what's up guys?
I don't know what's going on, Jeremy.
Yeah, so anyways, the he was doing his own protest right now.
I was like, yeah, yeah. Aggressive way.
Yeah, there's a podcast. He's like, I was few moves.
You do. Take a moment of silence.
Is what you were doing? No, no sighs.
Yeah, moment of silence. So anything we're just talking
about is you're just getting started here in.
We're talking about California and all that.
So describe just the route in general, like, where you feel
like you guys are all over the place, we were all over the
place. So we went from California to, I
think was Kingman Arizona and then the place they slept in
Kingman, was like some pizza place in the middle of nowhere
had. Like 40 acres and they're like,
you can use our, you know, land to park the trucks and they're
like, okay. And so they went from there to
Lupton, Arizona and looked in Arizona, was just a bandhan
desert town in the high desert of Arizona and it was actually
on the Navajo tribal Nations land and they stay there for a
night and actually, like Elders, from Navajo Nation, like came
out and cook the trucker's food, like giant supporters.
The trucker's John supporters of freedom in general.
It could have CNN just going like, ahead, Thanksgiving part 2
and we would like G came and talked to the native had a meal.
You want some beans? Yeah, he handed out blankets, it
was terrible and culture. If you like Navajo name, like
Nation, like the, the elders that were cooking for them and
it would totally like it would make a liberal, like, pull their
hair out like they would, they would think this is an actor.
Well, sure. You know, she was like, we
support the trucker's, we support America.
I know what America should stand for Wheel of the trucker's.
That's why we're cooking them food.
And it's just like, you know, this this is a 60 year old lady
who had everything stolen her from her, like, from her family,
from like the government, and she like loves the Constitution.
She really supports the trucker. She hates the mandates.
Totally like not what you'd expect.
If you were like a liberal watching television, you think
all of the Native Americans and the pocs hate the trucker's?
But these people came out and really show their support so
that we Then we went from Arizona to, we went through
Texas, Oklahoma Arkansas. And we went up North Indiana.
We were in Indiana for a couple days and Indiana and it was
interesting. There was this lady lead Dundas
and the whole time they were saying, you know, we don't want
this to be another January 6, you know, we need to be peaceful
when we get to d.c. January 16 year 6 and they were
saying we're going to DC and and then slowly as we got towards
the east coast, the rhetoric change and it was like the DC
area We're going to the DC area, and a lot of the trucker's were
like, I joined this Convoy to go to d.c. what is area mean.
And so, they were like, well, we're not going to go into DC
because it will be a mess. And the trucker's were like,
well, why am I here? Like, I thought we were going to
Washington. And so that was kind of like in
the on the back burner like thought a lot of the trucker's
were wondering, like are we going to go into DC?
Are we not going to go into DC and there's this lady lead.
Dundas who was the person who is like really riling everyone up.
Really giving these He's really hard-hitting.
Speeches yelling screaming and she just like disappeared, right
before we got to Washington, she just disappeared.
She said she was an organizer, a leader disappeared.
And we googled her name and I looked her up and it actually
turns out that she was at January 6 on the capitol steps.
Telling people that it's their duty to go into the capitol.
So I don't know. She like fled to Mexico when the
and then the FBI like Let Her Off The Hook and you came back
and then she joined Strucker's Convoy, which their, you know,
their stated goal was like to make sure that it wasn't another
January 6, right? So I don't know if she was a
spook a Fed. Like, she just disappeared.
I texted her. And I was like, hey, you think
we could do an interview, like I already knew she left, but she
didn't know that I knew, and she was like, Hey, I'm actually not
with the Convoy anymore. I'm going on a pre-planned trip
and it's like all trips are pre-planned, like why would you
say that? And then she was like, I'm going
on a pre-planned trip to my daughter's, my daughter's, a Not
funeral was the thing where it's a big dance and it's an era and
then after prom I promise. Well, it's like it's like
February 29th. Like it's not prom season like
it's the worst lie. And so she disappeared.
No one ever spoke to her again. Yeah.
And then, it's an era. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. It was like 60 miles outside of
Washington. D.c. a lot of the trucker's were
like, what are we doing? 60 miles outside of DC.
I thought we were just going to go into the capital and be done
and honestly, that's what I thought as well.
So, we were in Hagerstown for an entire month and we got there
and they didn't know what was going on, and the organizer and
Leadership were like, here's our plan.
We're going to do loops around the Beltway.
And that's how we're going to make our voices heard and remind
our government that they work for us and have the trucker's
were Alright, whatever. And the other half of the
trucker's were like we're going to drive around a highway in a
circle like how who like how our politicians care about like they
don't care if we're driving on a highway.
So that's where the first like ripples started happening
between the organizers and the organized in terms of like
strategy. And so they did a few loops and
there was kind of like a The organizers we're staying in an
RV in Hagerstown. They had like a really nice RV
that was like, kind of donated by someone who supported them as
wealthy. So, the organizers thing an RV
and every few days they would be like many protests of there
would be like, 50 truckers gathered around.
The organizers RV saying, like, you know, they have hardwood
floors in there. Like they're not telling us the
plan, you know, this is super undemocratic, blah blah blah.
And it was super interesting to see like just the like they're
protesting, you know, an undemocratic.
Government policy and their then end up like protesting undone
Democratic policy within the Convoy itself.
So like there was like these little mini Coos and little
contingents that split off and there was like different leaders
of different sects all in Hagerstown in Maryland and
during that time you know in Canada they were just they just
beat the heads of truckers in while they were in Canada.
And here you know like political theater is a little more
interesting here. So Ted Cruz.
I came down to Hagerstown Maryland and shook a couple
hands. Give a set of keywords, how he
supports the truckers and the organizers were like, you know,
this is a big win. We have Ted Cruz here and the
trucker's were more like, who cares if Ted Cruz is here?
Like, he's not doing anything for us.
Yeah. You know, and so that even more
like, the fact that the organizers were saying it's a
big win, that Ted Cruz is here. The trucker's were like, you
know, I'm, I'm missing work. I have a family back in Idaho.
Like I can't just sit here while Ted Cruz talks was like, we need
to go to d.c. and the whole like January 6 thing was really, like
used to. I mean, everyone's afraid of
Another January 6 happening. Everyone was afraid of this
thing, and they kept, like, the organizers kept saying, we don't
want another January 6 and it was just like the fear of
January 6th and like these people, how these people are
still in jail for like their protest on January 6.
Like It really scared a lot of the organizers and the trucker's
into not protesting government policy and their own like, you
know, taxpayer paid for Capital right now.
So it was it was it's definitely like an OP.
How January 6 to this day is stopping people from just
protesting their own Capital. Yeah.
And you say Ted Cruz's there, right?
But like there were some people that seemed authentically there
to support like I mean you ran into Robin alone, Robert Malone
right? We're going to yeah Robert
Malone, great guy that he was there.
He came to To to, you know, give scientific legitimacy to the
Convoy and he came, and he talked and he had a little
speech repaired everyone loved him, like he was definitely
genuine and his, who is that? I'm sorry.
Who is this Robert Malone invented, Mr. Alongside Robert
Malone, sorry, Alexander, I don't know if you know who that
is. No Paul.
Alexander was a scientist in Canada and he was with the
trucker's in Canada and then he Is at some point he was like he
went back to Canada sword strikes.
But before that he was hired by Trump's Health and Human
Services as a like senior like liaison.
I'm like the covid response and he was with the trucker's
literally every day for two months, he brought his family
like his nine-year-old daughter. And his wife was with the
trucker's every day. He was with the trucker's every
day. He was strategizing with
organizers, like how to get to d.c. how to approach.
Test how to make sure that we don't get beat up.
Like he is just a scientist and he really liked cared about the
cause and like, there's a warrant out for his arrest right
now and Canada because of what he did in Canada but he's a
really great guy. I tip my hat to him.
He stayed with the trucker's longer than me.
He's still with them crazy. Yeah, man.
That's yeah, exactly. And yeah, it wasn't like and
then I think like, pure Cory like a few other people.
Right? We're here.
Cory was there. Yeah, he was there like many
days hanging out. Talking to nurses, talking to
women. Here's I don't feel bad
disclosing. This information here.
Corey was chiefing cigarettes. I love it.
Okay, okay. Let me, let me, let me put on my
PR firm for a course. We are going.
Okay, a car mechanic, typically they drive like the 300,000
miles. I know Honda Accord and like
they're pushing that thing since like 1987 cause I like I can fix
it. If anything happens.
Yeah, let's go. I saw him smoking.
I was like, I like this guy more like.
Yeah, so cool. You're just hanging out with the
18-wheelers just talking to truckers just like, you know,
spitting on the ground like just being a normal guy and at the
same time he was like, giving all the trucker scientific
legitimacy. All of his like credentials.
He was there saying the Sciences on their side.
Maybe it's a stupid, the vaccines bad, Etc, these great,
amazing, amazing stuff. So you know, to some people
because there was there was radio silence on this like to be
honest. I other than you and I to be
fair. I don't sit down and watch CNN
or Fox News. I don't just, like, sit down and
watch that. Yeah, I know, right?
Yeah. But, but however, like I didn't
really hear a lot about it. I'm online.
So it's like I you think you'd hear a whole lot other than what
you were saying and maybe a few other people that were there and
you know that always shows to me that something's actually being
accomplished is when they're radio silent, right?
Like when they cover it that means they have an angle that's
beneficial right. Like when anyway, right whether
the cities are burning down, this could be a chance to go.
Democrats elected. If they're, you know, anything's
had if it's covid. There's a mass pandemic.
This is a way to get people stay inside and transfer wealth up.
Like there's there's many motives to avoid when they're
radio silent on something. It's typically like the Dirtbag
left is style like, oh, that's not even happening until out.
You know what I mean? Like, there's no mandates relax.
There's that always seems to be the case in that sense of.
But in California, there was actual legislature that got
scrapped correct. Yeah, in California.
There was Wait, I didn't even know they talk about the radio
silence. Here we go.
There was no. I mean, maybe Tucker Carlson did
like one report like, you know, he did one good report about how
like the roadblocks in d.c. were illegal Native.
Americans were cooking for the trucker's.
Yes. If the roadblocks were legal.
He did a segment on that. And like first the roadblocks,
every time, a contingent of truckers tried to get into
Washington, they Ahead of the trucker's even getting there.
They had dump trucks and plow trucks and just big government
vehicles. Parked at all of the exits to
get into Washington DC. And it was super haphazard like
one time. They were pulling the trucks in
and somebody didn't know the road was closed because they
didn't tell anyone yet and just plowed into a dump truck and
died, you know? So like the government would
like the police response to the trucker's was really crazy and
people in d.c. were giving the trucker's fingers and 30 saying
fuck you to them and they Didn't even know that like the traffic
and it was all caused because the police are shutting down
every entrance into Washington. Just so the trucker's don't get
in. Just so the trucker's can't, you
know, can't protest. It's their First Amendment
right? Like all they want to do is go
into Washington protest. So these roadblocks were
happening, you know, rolling Roblox by the day every day and
I would even ask them. I went up to a truck.
I went up to a police officer. I was like, you know, are these
Roblox legal? And he would look at me like,
you know, I can't answer that, it's like, oh my God, like
these, they won't eat, it's so easy to say, yes they're legal,
they won't even say their legal. And at another point I was
threatened with arrest. But when I asked if they were
legal, I was like, are they legal?
And they were like, listen, get back in the truck.
Are you going to get arrested? I was like, you know these it's
super easy to be like their legal and they never said it
once and there's actually a legal precedent like in 2008.
The metro PD like DC police tried to put roadblocks around
this neighborhood where the homicide It was like crazy, like
people are just getting killed every day and they just put in
robot. So, people couldn't, it was
harder to come in and leave and they got taken a court.
And they were told that the roadblocks are legal that it's,
you know, public property. People have the right to drop
the street and so that's a crazy president.
Like, you're not even allowed to block roads to stop people from
getting murdered. Like, how are you allowed to
block roads to stop people from doing a peaceful protest?
So the roadblocks were just happening constantly in
Washington and that's what made the truck.
Hers. Like they couldn't get into DC.
So they were like, you know what, there's this legislation
pending in California, these bills one mandated the vaccine
for you know, children in school public or private or
homeschooled. They need the vaccine regardless
of FDA approval. Another one mandated for public
and private employees, no matter what.
If you're filing your taxes in, in the state of California, you
need the vaccine another one, turn the cowboy.
Give me an excuse to not do that.
That's where I'm going. Well, I guess I'm not doing
another one. They called it.
The covid, cop Bill. And, like, it, it said, like, if
police don't enforce, you know, whether it be vaccine mandates,
Mass mandates, lockdowns they get their funding pulled a, you
know, they defund the police and give the funding to the health
department. Yeah and I was talking to a like
a liberal about and they were like, we're going to defund the
police. Hey, yeah.
Art meant? Yeah, there's a bunch like that.
It was just, you know, it was, it was enriching the police
state. It was mandating everyone to get
the vaccine. So they were just like, you know
what, we can't even get into our own Capital while we still have
this leverage. Like, you know, we still have
350 big rig trucks. Like it only takes two trucks
really to shut down a street and just writing highways like, what
would the things you can do with?
350 is wild. So they said let's go back to
California and protest. Is bills.
So that's when they went to California.
There was giant like, you know, and whether it be antifa, it was
just like liberals or leftist or college students, just
protesting them throwing eggs at them.
And that was when you really got to the like, the real resist.
Look fucking vax, man. Exactly.
I'm not shocked. I just people have used these
pretty that sentence to yourself a few times.
Like they're just, just if you're still have that, like
little where you're like, an Andy knows replies like antifa
school. Actually, like if you're that
guy, shred of like, hey fast like know these, These are sick
people that are doing, like, yes, like they're doing the we
Spa stuff, they're doing like, they don't, they, they just
don't know. They just feel like getting in
the way of like, autonomy and stuff like that.
Which is like, is that like what your programming?
Yeah, exactly. It's like you know people it's a
group thing thing and everyone's you know I've lived in a town
that was heavily like activists Focus before and everyone's
like, hey we're just doing this thing on this.
Saturday you in, and it's like, you know, and it's like, it's
like, I don't know. I wasn't like into that shit,
really? But you can tell people were
like peer pressure. They're like, oh yeah.
That's it's the current thing. You know, that's the thing.
Yeah. Just referring the bad-looking
and then we'll go like, hang out.
Yeah. Why not try a pickup game of
basketball and said, yeah, seriously, yeah, yeah, yes.
Any literally. Anything else?
Except that like to build some camaraderie?
Yeah, I know. That's so.
So you get you get to California.
You're greeted by every Soros organization.
Grows eggs? Yes or else Gates just specials
thrown at you all day in California.
I for one can't believe it and the so this gets struck that.
So how does it how does it just fail like?
Right just California scrap the bill, I mean they didn't really
scrap them, they shove a few of them they pause a few of them
trying to like you know wait till it's Like politically, you
know, easy to get these past, like when there's not giant
protest outside the cattle because like they have more time
and resources than the trucker's, do the trucker's have
to go back to their families. They got to start workin
eventually, you know, they just, you know, pause it, they shove
it until the truck please leave. I heard that a lot of that
original authors of the bills were trying to get their names
scrub from it because they didn't want to be associated
with it anymore. And in California Congress, a
lot of, a lot of them like they were like, oh, I didn't write
that. Yeah, it's like yeah.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
I was like, well, California always writer even well, before
covid, California has always had a weird, like, vaccine,
legislative bent to. Yeah, definitely.
I'm that guy that guy. Richard pan, who like, yeah, all
of those bills, Richard pan has been like, he's the one who got,
you know, all of religious and of all religious exemptions, and
all medical exemptions taken away from children at school.
You know? Like they were always mandated
like the schedule was mandated Good for public schools in
California for a while. It was Richard pan.
Like, it's crazy to be like your writing policy or legislator and
it's like, you know what, I'm going to do, I'm going to just
take away religious exemptions and medical exemptions.
Like, what? Yeah, how evil and backwards,
you know? He's the guy he's the guy that I
like Dell big tree will pop up in like Guerrilla interview
them. Yeah, that's cool.
And yeah. I'm like if you just Google
Richard pan, medical it just says, like malpractice.
This thing. I call this like insane stuff.
Yeah, he's a good dude. And if you go on just like open
Secrets or whatever that website is like, you see just last year,
like GlaxoSmithKline Gilead. Pfizer like every Big vaccine
that manufacture, every big pharmaceutical company and
Pharma, like, the pharmaceutical, like, lobbying
group, like, he's taking money from everyone.
Like, it's not a secret. Secret like, who he works for
people. Really don't didn't like him at
the Port. Like, he was like, Enemy Number
One. He was like fauci.
Yeah, yeah. He quick, look at Penn's
campaign, contribution, show, that just last year, he took
thousands of dollars from Pfizer, Merck, GlaxoSmithKline
and Gilead. Some of the largest vaccine
manufacturers on Earth, he's someone who has pushed all these
mandatory vaccine bills and he's got that they've always been
like mandatory but they took away all.
So you can't even get a medical exemption or a religious
exemption to opt out of the vaccines.
And so hundred percent of children who enter School here
in California, have to have a certain amount of vaccine.
He was the one who pushed that through and there were massive
protests against that. And now he's put through a bunch
of trying to put their a bunch of bills and they one of them
was adding the covid vaccine to the schedule of all these
vaccines kids have to take before they go to school without
Out exemptions, but Californians cave to shit like that.
That's what kills me about California's is like, the people
will be like, oh, that guy, man, what's his problem?
And then like, they're just like, well, we can't have
anybody else, you know what I mean?
Like they like will never actually fully oust anybody
like, that's the problem, like this a problem with Gavin Newsom
to it's the same thing. It's like, Gavin.
Newsom is objectively bad. Get E oil just like still, you
know, and they'll just be like, yeah.
But like what if somebody else comes in, that could be bad.
Actually, that's like you do that for 10 years into Gavin
Newsom. Just gets worse and worse.
Yeah. Exact.
And then you just becomes the guy.
Well he already is way worse than the guy, they're scared of.
But yeah, you just and ends up being able to just be that guy
in the open like the mean, you know, the terrible guy like and
yeah. So so what I'm getting at here
is like, people just say like all these guys are just honking
and being annoying, you know, these guys are just, you know,
blocking the road. They kind of do the like
reverse, like, well, what if, you know, a bunch of black
people did this, like, you know, they'd get like shot on sight
but like, you guys didn't have the police on your side, you
know, like there. Wasn't.
I mean, the police were like blot, like not letting the
trucker's like, literally peacefully protest in their own
Capital age. Has traveled across the country
to do this thing and they have to they like they tried to get a
permit to bring all the trucks in because they thought that
would be the best way to go to about it and normally permits
are just approved because it's, you know, you just have to let
the city know like that you're coming and their permit got
struck down. It's like a huge violation of
their first amendment rights like permits.
Don't get struck. They're not supposed to get
struck down, they're suing like there's legal action being
taken, I don't really know much about it, but the police and DC
and like everyone that like liberals in the level like
supposedly hate was against the trucker's but it didn't, it
didn't make them like the trucker's anymore.
Oh I see. So you have you know what I
found interesting about this being covered solely just by you
and you know Max Blumenthal had been had been talking about his
little, he was there and all that stuff down for a couple
days you know. It is kind of cool though that
you guys do get to like kinda it is kind of cool in a sense not
having opposition, right? Like in that sense like you do D
it, to tell that story and there's no temptation for
somebody to just find some like Like, you know, glowing leftist
media, thing to kind of come in and just, and just kind of smear
it all over that. Did that look, whatever pop it
like, did I ever pop? Because I haven't seen anybody
else, cover it like an old Middle School thing.
So like towards the end of Hagerstown, this guy like walked
onto the into the parking lot and he had like a giant
Moustache and he was wearing You are skinny jeans and he had a
camera strapped around his neck and really who's this character,
you know, and he walked out. I was talking to some truckers,
he walked up to us and he was like, how's it going?
I'm from Rolling Stone magazine, do boy and he thought like, you
know, that would make everyone like worship Him and rock and
roll, man. And he was like, I wanted to
come earlier, but I was in Ukraine and I was like, we don't
care, like, you know, it didn't work.
So, he like, went truck to truck.
There's 350 trucks knocking on window knocking on door saying,
hey, how much, what was the magazine?
Can I come in the truck today? For the Convoy, like, around the
Beltway? Can I come?
And everyone said, no, everyone said, no.
And finally, like this old man, he was like, almost senile is
called old man. Damn.
They called him. And he's just like, yeah, hop on
in. And so he, he hopped in and like
it was the worst person to send this guy with.
Is the first question he asked me was like why did why are you
joining the protest and old man? Dan said he mentioned election
fraud and it was like, oh no. Like this guy's like he make.
He's making everyone look crazy. Like, trumpeters, I will
literally rather pick up Lloyd Christmas on the fucking side of
the road than that guy. So the article came out and it
was super, it was like 5,000 words.
He said something super. He was like, he was like that,
they did fireworks. Works at night.
And I have to say, I don't like fireworks anymore, especially
after coming back from Ukraine. Like, as if to say, like I'm
scared of the sounds and he actually the first sentence, the
first sentence that the article was like, the trucker's base and
Hagerstown Maryland is probably the weirdest and most
interesting place that I've ever been.
And I was like, okay, fair enough that's actually true, but
but the rest of the article is really bad.
I mean, he took to it like maybe one person who like, who Who
said something like you can use definitely like, like what do
you think about Q human on and the person we like, you know,
you know we definitely have a deep State and you know, Q is
real and and he just made the whole article about like just he
only quoted crazy people so it was really bad and like that's
essentially how the mainstream media treated it like many
times, right? The Washington Post sent a guy
in like undercover and then they like we're like who was he?
Like you know these people were walking around like probably
tweeting like I'm at the trucker's protest, it's really
bad a lot. Of you know American flags
terrible. Yeah, it was, you know how bad
there was one more. There's one more journalists he
was with The Daily Beast and he was he was undercover at
Hagerstown all the time like live tweeting and no one could
find him and he was there and he went he came to the like Round
Table. Talk would like Ted Cruz and Ron
Johnson a few of the truckers and explained that the trucker's
were circling Washington. D.c. quote, quite feverishly
though. They're like, yeah, we're
driving. Like, you know, what is like,
why is it that feverish And you can see him.
Like there was a little contingent in Washington of
truckers, he would be running alongside the trucker's
live-tweeting. He was just like a funny
character. He was like, she really
recording different conversations.
He heard in Hagerstown and posting them on Twitter.
You know that the media was there in small numbers.
He was on the trucker's beat and you know, I don't know.
That's all he was doing, you know, like he was the guy that
Like Go cover the trucker's, man.
You're new here, go cover the. Like I feel like that's kind of
what it was like, because, you know, they're like, you know,
hey great, great, false, Ivermectin story, can you go
cover the trucker thing? No.
As I picture Like a Rolling Stone guy walking around like
the thing which trucks did Peter teal pay for this Peterbilt
Peterbilt what right? Yeah.
But yeah, that's insane. So, so you all in all Sorry we
missing any D key details of going through here because it's
because all I know this guy. Yeah.
This this, this trip probably about six weeks, right?
Would you say for you? I mean, what's today?
It was February 23rd to like three days ago, so it was two
months, damn weeks. Eight weeks on the road for
well, spread can you operate a truck?
Now, I actually was invited. I practiced, I did drive a truck
around the parking lot, Lat, I switched from like one gear to
the other gear. Like, there's like 15 years in
these trucks. So that's all I did.
And then I looked at him. I was like, I'm done and I
handed it over to him so I can kind of do it, but like not
really, no. Okay, so there's that.
Now, one one thing, I wonder if that comes from this and you
know, people people that Some people don't think this is a
possibility but you know, I work in kind of a blue-collar sector
and it's yeah, for the most part, you know, everybody has
their differences. But for the most part like you
kind of identify with the people that you work with more so than
the people that look like you in a sense, right?
And and the does this give you like a hope for like a somewhat
of a populist kind of worker Uprising or will have you want a
Brandy? I hate saying the word do it but
like just in a sense where it's like, okay, like this guy.
The Q guy is fine too because I Like 7q guys, so I don't care.
I had lunch. I literally went to El Pollo
Loco with Q guy. Yeah.
It's all good. Like it's this guy.
I don't even know if I can say anymore.
We're kind of a health podcast. I shouldn't be saying no Pollo
Loco but no, the like I those guys are fine to me, but like to
some people that's scary, right? That's scary, they might
identify with like the programmer at Google.
That's like, you know, completely blue pill Den, PC guy
for those reasons. But does this give you hope for
like, just some kind of like, any kind of Of uniting force
like bodily autonomy. If it's not that, what else
would it be right? Yeah, I mean they were there
like for their own bodily autonomy and like more.
So, like the fact that, like, these government policies are
stopping them from, like, putting food on their table,
like the and their kids don't won't eat.
And like, then they want to mandate it for their children.
Like they were mostly father's. The trucker's were like,
overwhelmingly fathers, and were there for their children?
Like, they're six years old? They're like, I'm not here for
me. I'm here for my kids.
You know, they're here for the future.
And there was like, Tons of. I mean there were definitely a
lot of people who voted for Trump.
There was like a lot of trump guys, and like they even knew
though, like like they were telling other people to take the
Trump Flags off their trucks, they're like this is not about
Trump like they were smart enough to know that like the
media will run with like a trump, right?
It's like that's let's not say anything about Trump.
Like there's not about Trump, trump is not present like we
don't, you know, it's not about Trump, there was the Trump
people. There was the lots of like don't
tread on me Flags which is honestly it's Fair enough for
like the the Mandate cause and then I even there was this guy
names, he called himself Santa and I became great friends with
him. He had a big gray beard of super
nice, super compassionate and loving, he was a father and then
it was until like the very end I learned that he was he was a
proud boy and like it was the kind of thing where it's like if
you told me that like I was gonna become like friends with
like an old man who seemed like gentle and everything.
Like and he was like, oh yeah, I'm a Boy like any took off his
shirt and his publisher on his, like, the tenants of what we
believe in the back. And he's like, we're like, I am
Against Racism X and Y, is just like I would never expect to be
like to see so much, like love and camaraderie because you told
me I was gonna go hang out with, like Frat, Boys and jumpers, and
there's also like disenfranchised, Bernie
supporters, like, a lot of people to vote for Bernie not in
2020, but in 2016, right? There's a lot of them and twenty
twenty people were throwing eggs at you.
Yeah, exactly. That's the problem but they were
all they were all getting one. There was a proud boys.
The Chompers the Bernie supporters like everyone there
was kids, their people brought their kids.
There was white people, there was obviously like there was a
ton of black truckers there was everyone was there, everyone was
getting along, everyone was there because they knew that
they needed to you know, stop the cross-border of axiomatic
because none of them can make money.
And that's that was really the defining thing that brought
everyone together. So there's definitely hope for
some type of Movement. That that's like that.
Yeah, I totally agree. And like you have not.
So now, you're back. And do you miss it a little bit?
Yeah, that's, that's actually funny.
You say that because in Hagerstown, we would see, I
would see, like, five or six truckers like not there.
And I'll be like, I wonder where they are.
And then five days later. I would see them again.
And I'll be like, where did you go and they'd be like, have you
ever seen the show Lost? Actually either of you.
Sure. I actually died have.
Yeah. So In the show Lost like there's
a point where everyone's like we need to go back to the island.
They just have a feeling that they need to go back to the
island and it was kind of like that in Hagerstown where I was
like, oh the there like we went home and I just had this
feeling, I had to come back and like, people were just leaving
and no one would be gone for more than five days and they
would just have a feeling that they had to come back.
And they would, they would be back and it definitely.
I know there's one documentarian, that's still
there. I met his knee on a song.
Entry roads, country the whole time and just, yeah, he's this
guy. Young Kim is still there, and
he's going to stay until he's going to follow some truckers
home. And he told me, he was like, I
think a lot of these truckers. A lot of the people here will
have, you know, some sort of PTSD like after the convoys
over, like, going back to real life.
Normal life, they'll be depressed.
It's like burning man. They exactly So bad.
They're gonna like he's going to stick with the trucker's that
leave and like see how like they do adjusting to normal life
because it is weird. Like you're just cooking dinner
with all these truckers. You know, it's like camping,
you're drinking your everything's free, you know, you
wake up, you try to go into DC, you come back, you eat dinner
and you do the same thing the next day.
It's like, it's a weird life. Yeah.
And that's like that's like leftist heaven, right?
Isn't that like what they Want. Yeah, I mean, everything was
free. All the dinners were free.
Like, everything was free, everything.
Like they even had like a community, Pantry, where
everything was for, you could get to shampoo toothpaste books,
closed snacks, food, whatever. And I remember posting about it,
like, saying, like, here's the, the people's Pantry.
They called it and everyone was like, sounds a lot like
communism. Ha ha.
Like, gotcha. I was like these people, you
know, like they don't, they're not, they don't not like,
against, like pooling resources. This is in Sharing what everyone
has like. Nobody is that's like nobody is
but like when some blue hair guy, like wants to see your
fucking papers before going in and think?
Yeah. Maybe they're against any of
that stuff. Because, like, for the most
part, like the general nature of just sharing and, like, finding
common ground among people, like that's just human nature, right?
And I think even a communist would agree there that's human
nature. That's why what they think is
going to work work, right? Is because people can find
enough common ground to want to share things with each other and
not be greedy, right? Like that's essentially and own
what you doing? And do all that these truckers
are owner operators, which is I actually mean to ask you that
this is, this is always when Marxist for the Canadian stuff.
A lot of them were tripping over their own words.
Trying to describe what a trucker was and they're like,
well, truckers aren't worker because they own their own
business. It's like no, they own.
Their means of production. Yeah, they like it's not it's
not, they're not cool ax dude. I'm sorry.
Like I mean if they are who cares?
I don't even give a shit, I don't care, but I just mean even
if your own argument these guys are workers.
They just happen to own what they produce in a It's like they
own their truck. It's there.
They own the building. Essentially, they're 100%
workers, like, these guys had to leave the Convoy to make money
to pay bills and then come back to the Convoy like be they're
not Wealthy by any means. No.
And they own their trucks. Like and and who's to say that
it wasn't something like, you know, it wasn't some predatory
loan that allow them to buy that truck.
Like they're not, they're not like outside of the the plight
of, you know, any American who's trying to Make ends meet like
people said like the farmers and in France who were protesting in
like, you know, shit on the government buildings was
amazing. Those on workers, those tractors
are two hundred thousand dollars.
It's like, oh God, what do you want the key?
The cat website looking out of here.
I hate these people and like these who like it doesn't mean
that they just forked over 220, Grand cash and got their truck.
Like they are probably only financing these things and
that's Only way that they can make money for their family, so,
you know, godspeed. Yeah.
And the people, I'm sorry, the people that are just for the
Frandsen, the people that are freaking out about the France
thing, get paid like a hundred and twenty thousand dollars to
watch that video and pretend they're working.
But what like, what is the, you know what?
You know what? Well the France I forget what it
was. Was it a man over the Mentos
over mccrone winning again once it was one election over Le Pen,
right? I believe I'm not super plugged
into that but I remember a lot of people want.
I'll append to win. Yeah, and mccrone was kind of
like the Joe Biden of that says where it's like, well imagine if
we let a Nazi win. Yeah, you know.
And like, that's, it's very much similar in that sense, but like
what they did is I and French people.
French people do this like this is a reggae, this is a regular
old Day in France, honestly. Like when there's something they
don't like like when the price of certain things, get too high
for them. They'll just dumped manure on
people's like opponent Christians.
Like they're very efficient, their protest.
So what they did was they dumped like straight up fertilizer like
rotten Like fertilizer in the middle of like this, like
beautiful, like Central Square area.
I think it might be. Maybe it was a where political
building was, to be honest, we should drink.
There was poop dripping from Windows.
Like, it was wild. Yeah.
They just went like, but it was like something you see out of a,
like, a movie where it's like a woman, like getting after her
cheating boyfriend, we're like, you know, Courtney Love music's
playing in the background or something, like it seemed like
something like that. It was really, really cool.
But like, yeah, like I was saying, you know, these people,
you know, maybe somebody protesting like, oh, these
protesting Rich guys and stuff, it's like, no, I'm sorry.
Are you live like the ultimate bug life?
Like I dry was trust the any small business owner over the,
you know, the slave to a tech industry person that is clinging
onto covid simply. So they can still work at home,
you know what I mean? Like move my mouse every 15
minutes so they're both nice are at their computer while they
label pot. Yeah, show your camera.
Sure your camera. Okay.
All right, you know, like I know the game, I know the game, I
don't play it but I know the game.
I know how these people do this stuff, even the cool based
people will be like I still, you know, I still like that aspect
of it. Yeah.
And so, One of the last last things I wanted to talk about is
you know, Jeremy you and I spoke about it a little bit.
I think they're bringing in covid back in America, too.
I think it's coming. I think it's coming.
It's coming back. Might be coming.
Everyone's everyone's getting it.
Like the politicians are like, I tested positive.
I'm have all these vaccines. Like, it didn't work.
And not everyone's getting it. Why, why would they say that?
We're getting it? Yeah.
If they didn't have a plan and then we mentioned the videos in
China. The China stuff.
It's it's super like, I mean in the, in the beginning of covid,
we were shown those videos of people just just falling dead on
the sidewalk and we were told it was covid and everyone got
really scared and that's honestly what manufactured
consent for a lot of the policies here when they were
like, oh, it's coming. We need to just 15 minutes 15
days and slow the spread like you see in the video the guy
falling and who knows what those like, why did that guy follow
you think? Like so I think it was an
outtake from Mxc Most Extreme Elimination Challenge.
I think it was. Yeah.
And they're like, ah, shit. We forgot.
That was the. He was on the rolling pin
running thing, you know, but I know that.
Yeah, the, the China lockdown thing all over.
If I remember, I'll put a little link of it, where they do that,
like, crazy drone camera and like, nothing's happening in the
city, and it's pretty chilling, but it's meant to be chilling.
Yeah, right. I, I had to find my had to,
like, block it out of my head because I'm like, no, this is
they're just trying to. We're being kind of scary man.
Being shown a horror film. You're being show your be.
They're going to start doing though.
Well, Yeah, the hospital's we scaled the hospital's back a
little bit but now we're going to start burying bodies in the
turnpike. Again, you know, the Jersey
Turnpike and stuff like we're gonna have to start doing that.
We're after these Mass Graves and and do that.
And like I even see like some of these obviously fake posts on
Twitter. There's this guy I don't.
If on the off chance that this is a real guy, I don't want to
expose them but this guy has a Ukraine flag in is like by like
30 mile but in his. Yeah and his username it's just
that. All right I'll say his name.
Fuck it. The Greek do.
Matt. Okay.
Oh not Greek. The geek diplomats are you
Doctor? Yeah, fuck off.
I'm sure he's a very fine with that.
I'm sure he's fine with like Taylor Lorenz and all that
stuff. So if he's got the Ukraine flag
so he says he posted a positive covid test which like it's the
Covetous looks so weird. Like they don't even look like I
don't there's no way that it looks like the pregnancy test.
Yeah it does look like a pregnancy test and like it's
yeah dude maybe you're just pregnant well maybe be, it would
be, it would explain the behavior and the he says I'm
rage crying this morning and he hosts the post the picture, it
looks like almost the logos, almost looks like it was lifted
from Colgate the covid test and it says two years of isolating
and keeping my toddler safe and I and I get infected with
hashtag covid-19, which sound make sure it's trending when I
played it at a mandatory team off-site, even while wearing a
k9, In 95, mask myself. Now my toddlers are exposed and
then he does the angry Emoji with like the cussing thing over
its mouth. This isn't over at us FDA.
We need to hash tag immunize under fives now.
Yeah, that's a. I mean it's a fake post look at.
I mean, it totally is. Yeah.
Like yeah. Like any other parents like who
are posting? Who were like we need to get
this vaccine like ready for children.
Like the FDA is being so slow. Whoa, like like saying our
government sucks because our Regulatory Agencies aren't
approving an experimental vaccine for children is wild and
you'll even see like a, I don't know if you saw this, there's a
lady who was saying the same thing.
There was an article on her recently I like sub stack, I
can't remember the name but she's a Instagram influencer
with a white coat. You know she's like an MD, she's
been doing like covid posts since the beginning of covid and
this guy like called the The hospital.
That's is, she supposedly works at and they were like, we don't
have any record of anyone's employment like of that name.
We do remember and clinically insane, woman walking around, no
own talking into the we do have regulations that but it turns
out that she's just a, she's a school nurse who's working from
home since the beginning of covid.
So she is and she also like she's getting retweeted by.
She got retweeted by Pfizer. So it's like a super interesting
to town all the time. Like I definitely like a job and
she's like doing that same thing where it's like we Need to get
children vaccinated. I'm seeing so many children
coming coming into my ER, and it's like you're working from
home your school nurse like there is no, ER, what do you
know? It's just like she's acting.
I mention, I imagine if I ever got retweeted by Pfizer that I
was probably less than six and a half minutes away from being in
the trunk of a car somewhere. Yeah, that I can't.
I give you still just seeing like that notification, like,
Pfizer between each other off. I would love that, that would be
such a funny on vacation. Maybe?
Yeah. But I'd be like, Accidentally
looking at all the hashtag 50 tweets and just like retweeting
them. Yeah, they do one by accident.
Yeah, the good one. Yeah.
But yeah, the under fives is so funny too because the way that
this Somebody explain this in like a really easy format, I
don't have this sweet in front of me but it's like really
funny. The way this thing this thing
actually got approved because like mRNA has like been unable
to get improved approved for so long, like just it's been
sitting for so long so you have to have something to create the
EU. A The EU, a leads to the a right
like that or the authorization right thing approval.
Like it's, it's like, you have to all these things are like
they're like, no, no, no, it's totally cool.
But we have to, like, emergency authorize it and like emergency
authorized to like a lib is like cool.
You know what I mean? Like, we smash the glass on
there was something I never have to go back to work.
This is an emergency and, you know, that's the way they're
thinking in their head and I just it makes and then all of a
sudden, like, you know, data comes out in like Oh man, you
know, maybe the insane people maybe the to you know, burnout
College burnouts, that started a podcast.
Maybe they knew a year ago, maybe the thing, they're saying
that they were just speculating on might actually be true and
like, are you familiar with dr. Rhonda Patrick, yes, of course.
I don't feel like Joe Rogan. Yeah, one of the world we wanted
to, we wanted to talk about this one of the worst displays of of
Rogan's platform I've ever seen in my life and I'm not one of
those Rogan invite all the dumb people on it.
Made her look stupid. They truly did.
I don't think it convince anyone to actually get vaccinated to be
honest. Like, I truly know.
I don't think it did, especially like a lot of, that's the
problem with what a lot of people don't realize is that,
like lives always project because they always think that
everybody who consumes a form of media obeys it, but it's like
don't literally only you do like long as you watch CNN.
And if that's your politics, you know what I mean?
Like, for the day and like, you know, the current thing.
It's like, yeah, Rogan people might be like, yeah, I'm going
to put a little thing of butter in my coffee.
Like nobody see. It's like that.
Quite the same thing you know like as getting a shot you know
and and things like that and you know Rhonda, Patrick dr.
Rhonda Patrick identifies as like a holistic alternative doc
groups doing hurts. It hurts the most when these
people ride the party line ride, the visor line, whatever.
And she was on Rogan and she was a here are my eight talking
points of vaccine misinformation that are harmful and she's like,
has to check it every like minute likes like orange.
He's not hurt. And it's not even like her, you
know, doing that is like notes that she got and folds easily
under question questioning for Rogan, which is why I found that
and the Sanjay Gupta to be like, almost more informative.
Yeah. Because it kind of exploded
exposes them. Yeah, they're not rock-solid,
they don't handle the questions about Sanjay.
Gupta made up like an air-conditioning guy stores.
Oh my God, I love that that's ones of all time.
That's my favorite. Joe Rogan moment.
I feel like of this year was better than anything.
Peter McCulloch or Malone said no disrespect to those guys but
that to me is Like, when do you mean, you know, we all know the
lies but like, to some people. It's like, dude.
I didn't happen. Yeah, he said, he went into
someone's house. No, no, he was an
air-conditioning guy. Came to fix his air.
Conditioner was like, listen, should I get the vaccine?
Yeah, it's like, I want to tauter die.
Yeah, he said, he's in my daughter.
Just died of covid. Should I get the vaccine?
Yeah, I remember, I remember when that came out and I was
like oh man, so I'm a kook. Are you kidding me and Glenn?
You're like, no, listen to it. It's not a list of the colors
better than anything because to be honest I think it did like
people were like yeah this guy sounded horrible.
He was grasping for straws all under just very simple.
Like guy who smoked like an entire eighth during the podcast
like he's like like that's how you fold.
It's not like Joseph McCarthyism types of itself.
Joseph of happening. Black Rifle coffee.
Got you, you know? And yeah, it was like, oh, that
would look like after he like went into the lions den today
and it's like her for being ask basic questions.
The first time in your life being with your point is.
Yeah and that's why that's why that's good because we're bad.
Like people like us are battle tested, like people that believe
like us. People have these big platforms.
They're so battle-tested that they sound so amazing but like
anybody else the minute it's not a controlled interview like
actual controlled healing medicine.
Like why why did he even do that?
Like he must have really thought that Joe Rogan was wrong and
then he got there and be like, why would they even send him on
Joe Rogan's podcast? If he was gonna look like an
idiot like it's better not sending him at all at all.
Have to turn it down. Just about your fastest.
Sorry I won't come on. That would have been way better
to lives. Like they're exactly.
So true. They would have said that I know
that modeling day. He was like I, you know, I
didn't perform that well on the podcast, I admit, but it was
because I was, I was afraid. Joe Rogan was gonna snow assault
me. Exactly.
Ya know, the crazy thing on the worst thing that, like, the next
Don Lemon, they sent, they did another set up his job, you
know, and he didn't disavow it. That's the most fucked up thing.
You saw that, right? Yeah.
They they, they found again after, like, Joe made it very
clear as well. You know, it's been fucking
three hours making it very clear as whole points and ever.
And then sometimes like, yeah, I totally understand, man, you
know, and then like, literally, like 48 hours later.
He's on CNN trash-talking. It's like, I know that's funny.
Five million dollars a year there, something like a year,
they're just for being, like, seeing a doctor just for, like,
literally being on Sesame Street.
And I'm like, yeah. I just, like not even like, and
then here, I remember like, and the, the cool part about it is,
like, Rogan still, like probably thinks he's a good doctor.
Yeah, you know, I really wrote. It is so funny like that and
he's He means. Well, you just like, look he
pay. He has air conditioner.
Like I know people feel different ways about his
politics or whatever. Yeah, I like the guy Mac.
Michael malice, because every time he's on Rogan.
He's like, dude, shut the fuck up your bullshit.
It's bullshit. They don't like you.
They hate you. Yeah, it's yeah, he's just very
clear about that. Yeah, it's Roundup.
I'm sorry. Run Patrick, run a pattern.
What happened? I saw a guy on Twitter getting,
like, kind of a spat with her because I do It is so much.
I know it was great. It was great, she replied ha.
All I did was ask, sorry. Can I please please?
Yes, your, she's here. Yeah, I forget what it is, even
the partner manifesting, that's but I wasn't expecting anything.
But I'd already sponsored there was Like it was like yeah
totally have with new data comes New Perspective and then like
you know then y'all opt-in and that killed me that killed me.
We just had new data equals New Perspective.
It's like no, we were right. Like we had that a year got was
where we just speculating all these doctors and where do I
sign. But like what I mean is like,
you know, for the people who like all I want to know right
now is like Either right now. It's clear that it's that none
of this worked. And actually, to be honest,
everybody, I know that's got covid right now is vaccinated
but truly like, I don't know any unvaccinated person right now.
That has covid. I don't and just look around.
Like if you do that's fine. Like you guy.
I'm completely anecdotal. I have no numbers to say that I
just everybody around me that has it.
And I had some people who didn't want the shot that are like,
dude I just I just feel, I get sick, like it, that easiest
moment right now like, you know, and and with, with run, you
know, we knew this. He's going into it and what I
want from these doctors, these people that were really pushing
this stuff people trying to get rid of misinformation.
Is you either have to admit? You were wrong, right?
Which is shot on your credibility or dishonest, right?
Those are those are the two options right there because it's
definitely go with the wrong it, right?
Which is fine, like, hey I'll give you the out right there.
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a, you know, I'm not a ruthless like
that I thought was right, you know, and I do still have a
heart sing at the shot but the yeah.
The people who, you know, I say you the wrong or dishonest
because wrong, you know, hey, you take a shot on your
credibility. I'm not listening to you the
next time for independent you know, whatever whenever you try
to roll this up out again, you you admit you got it wrong the
first time or you're dishonest because if I knew you knew,
right? Like if I knew then a doctor
should have known. There's just no way that like
because you know, there's that mean.
Hey honey. I found all the stuff.
The doctors missed. The best doctors in the world.
My love them. Yes, true literally me.
I didn't miss it. That's the thing.
Is that, it's there. I found it because it's in their
journals. Like, it's insane, what?
I don't know, Rhonda, Patrick, I just thought it's just things
like that. If she's just a regular Junta
Gupta is, he's is an agent, right?
And I'm sure Rhonda Patrick is in a sense to but like the when
you, when you identifies alternative medicine, you never
even once, and I really are things like, coming from the
like, you know, obviously like Albert borla's.
Aaron says, the vaccine is good and you know, the anti-vaxxers X
and Y. But like, when rotten when
someone who says like I totally believe in holistic medicine,
holistic, healing, alternative treatments.
But the fact is good. Yeah, and it's like oh that is
such like a potent type of propaganda knows.
Maybe I was going to say just chalk it up to another one of
those. One of the like people
personally thought was semi based and turns out not to be
what churches. Yeah.
Hurts more saying hurts more dude.
When you win again The Usual Suspects it's like okay it's
just just the forget about the science or like this is a
brand-new tag that has never been used in humans.
Ever the fact that if you don't bring that up in your first
sentence, every time you talk about the vax as like a doctor
or medical professional or social-media influencer, like
you're literally doing propaganda at that point on
behalf of iser wittingly or unwittingly.
That's just the fact that it's just crazy.
Yeah and they want boosters for kids.
They want 11:55 boosters invited.
Quiet 525 between 5 and 12 year olds and like I'm sorry all of a
sudden I just see the other day and hey sure maybe causation,
you know, correlation to in whatever that whatever.
That stuff thing is that people say they try to tell us where
wrong the correlation and causation thing.
Even though like Jonathan dr. Jonathan lethem was like no, it
literally does. Like it's like, that's how
everything everything in science works is through that way when
he said that, I wasn't even there.
I know like, well, you you were there, I was just like yeah,
yeah, thanks he's unbelievable. And so he, you know, he says
that but like yeah, okay, sure, maybe it doesn't but like
childhood, hepatitis rates are going up right now.
You know, and aren't A vaccines for that.
Well then no. So I you you're kind of getting
onto a subject I wanted to, you might not know Glen but maybe
you maybe do Jeremy Paul off it you know.
Paula is it you guys know? Yeah I remember that.
The he's like a huge like probe acts dude.
Yeah so yeah way before the covid stuff.
He's been like the villain of anti-vaxxers you know all over
the world and heat. He invented the the are V
vaccine patent, which was famously pulled to safety
issues. But after he got cashed out at
like 120 million dollars, like not even exaggerating.
Like they, you know, they're like, here's your payout 120
million. He's, and he's on the record,
he's like, yeah, it was like literally winning the lottery,
like he said it in the media and he's like, he's like insane.
And so he is like enemy of like Suzanne Humphries.
Like, we know that was there between Fork over that, like Jim
dissolving Illusions. And they would because he all
off it. Would say, like, any amount of
vaccines is safe for an infant. You can give literally 1000
vaccines to an infant. It wouldn't be a problem and
people would be like, really like a thousand and he's like,
no, I bet, even 10,000 who gave 10000 vaccines, to an infant,
wouldn't be a problem. And keep in mind, we have like
Dad, as, you know, like papers, they're showing that.
It's just so silly the medic that like the litter than
Metals, by humilated the brain. It's like no other virtual like
me, but I just wanted to hold that.
Thought what's crazy? He's like kind of skeptical of
So like a lot of these like tried-and-true vaccine
propagandists. It's almost like they're scared
over their shit in an exposed so that because of covid vaccines
are so ludicrous that they were kind of like you doing like this
weird little clay. Yeah attacking the covid
vaccines to try and like maintain credibility of
quote-unquote. The other ones you know what do
you think about that? Yeah Jeremy yeah I mean like
there's so much of the like I'm not an anti-vaxxer but and then,
like, answer something about the covid vaccine and it's just like
so and I mean, a lot of people who like to spaz that like are
totally, you know, like true you know good actors but at the same
time it totally discounts all of the children and all the
families waiting for compensation who have been, you
know, injured by other vaccines. And like you know you'll have
people who like were injured by the covid vaccine say like you
know, I'm not getting compensated.
It's like yeah, get in line. There's literally thousands of
people who have been injured by vaccines are not getting
compensated. No offense like, you know, it
sucks that your heart blew up but you know, but and I had this
similar thought about like I don't know what you guys think
about Robert Malone. Like, I know Robert Malone, like
he invented this technology, etc, etc.
But he also like three years ago was working like, you know, for
the biomedical complex and he's working at the Pentagon, he
literally wrote a paper, you know, call Called like vax
track. Yeah and it was literally like
how to turn like a 13-year development phase for vaccines
until I got three months. Yeah, it's hot.
Then we'll know we, in fact, when to his credit has brought
up multiple times, like, what literally I really want to be
trust this guy. Yeah, literally everything is
almost everybody. That's assigned to our side is
somebody from the other side. It's what sucks like it's, you
know, like like Michael shellenberger supposed to stop
homelessness in California, yet used to George Soros.
You know, like in. Yeah, you you get all these.
You get all these people it's like, why can't we have like the
organic anti-vaxxer like why can't we have that be the arse?
Well, I'm and I'm not trying to disrespect normal.
I think what he said has been granted.
He's been right on point now. I like yeah and I think it's
weird with or without him so it's like there's clearly
Clementine. You, I'd love to ask him.
Yeah I love I did ask him that I asked.
Yeah, yeah. When I spoke to him, I asked
him. I was like, I brought up the vax
track paper. I was like, you all did this
paper. It was It was really going to
speed up manufacturing. Babubhai was like, what is the
difference between, you know what you proposed and what
they're doing with the covid vaccine?
And before I could even finish my sentence he was like yes.
Like he was a little weird and he was definitely caught off
guard because all my other questions were like superheroes
revering him. And I asked him this one
question, he's explaining that what he was doing, he was just
trying to speed up the manufacturing process.
Not the development process and that he his mRNA technology that
he propose we use and invented was real.
MRNA with are using now is like a synthetic mRNA.
So that's a giant difference and he was there was essentially his
answer and then he was like, so yeah.
And I was like, okay, I guess that's the end of his, he's like
nicely, he's like not a real leftist with like not a real
lemon her again, it's not real. Exactly.
But and I think it's time we were talking about this as a
show. It's time to drop the full
medical red pill because some people are coming to us just
from the covid situation. Yes.
And they are already doing the like well let's not you know
blow up the whole childhood vaccinations.
It's like this. Let's blow it up.
Yeah. I'm like whoa it's okay.
That's what. No you're right.
Let's not blow it up. How about you?
Just listening. You know, maybe the two hours of
us talked about, you know, I started to either that's
eventually coming and I learned sign, I were talking for a long
time. He'd get real frustrated.
A little bit like you like my house but people aren't ever
going to like fully. I'm like no you just can't you
can't drop too much on them too soon but now it's time to my
favorite. Gentle gentle red pill is Japan
like just with childhood vaccines like they do an
episode. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah.
They do a quarter of our schedule.
They consciously scaled back years ago and remove several and
split up several of the magazines and they're just kind
of neoliberal country to act like it's not even.
Like this is like some girl like you know, South in Africa or
something where it's like, okay, that all, they're like your
family medical. Yeah.
They're fucking.
It's like, why why did they do that?
And they're in, there wasn't a bad.
Their house are came out and said he's like, yeah, we think
it has issues that some SIDS sudden infant death, of course,
and their SIDS rate drops, like plummeted America.
On the worst rates in the entire, you know, quote unquote,
first world where anything in child, birth rates, and
childhood disease rates and all this stuff's.
It's bullshit. And it's and also is there since
yeah. Exact.
Well that, yeah. And I we're not going down
there. I'm just saying hey I just think
about that, you know, like also there's no mandates.
There's nothing, the schedule is not mandated and open and that's
what it is, like in Japan, anti-vaxxer is an entire week
and then, eventually definition of who I forget who raised that
question, but that's that's a great Point.
Like they change the definition of an D backs to be against
mandates and it's like you have Japan here in entire country.
Yeah, it doesn't mandate anything that has better health
outcomes than us for children and adults.
Yeah, it's like exactly. Yeah, 100%.
Yeah, well Jeremy, I mean, appreciate you coming through
man. Do you have any closing thoughts
on this or anything? Anything we missed anything?
No, no, I don't think so perfect.
Perfect. So I mean, I know you You
somewhat freelance, but let everybody know where everything
you have is, you know, just just let follow me on Twitter,
Wilfredo Jeremy. Yeah, that's it.
Yeah, there you go. And, you know, I'll do my best,
I'll do my best to splice in some of the, some of the
revenues stuff in here just so we can get people directed that
way. Because you'd, like I said, I
didn't I'm pretty plugged into a lot of this stuff.
I didn't see anybody doing that extensive coverage on this on
this stuff. Even for me somebody who's, you
know, spent with With PSI over the last, you know, year and
Verso, really fighting these mandates.
At least, you know, over microphones and you know, for me
to just find out even more about legislation that was being
proposed in a state that I live in that I was like, oh that got
struck down I didn't know that was a thing, you know?
Like that's it's crazy how much this stuff can sneak by and then
by the time it happens you're like yeah you know what you
going to do and you know well once again I mean we appreciate
what you did out on the road to so I going thank you guys just
bringing that to light. I'm sure.
I'm sure it was helpful to a lot of people I know our audience is
going to love this and don't fall for the shit again guys,
it's coming back to covid, stuffs don't fall for it.
Don't wear the mask. I'm not a medical professional
but that's why you should listen.
So don't don't do that again. Follow at the Fredo, Jeremy on
Twitter and yeah, that's it for us, guys.
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