1 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,400 Yeah, from the five to the six we be in the mix with that rare 2 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,760 candy paint job on the whip. I need food for the kids, money 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,880 for the rent. Fuck a lock down baby. 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,560 I can't do that shit now. I'll never vote because I'm 5 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,000 fucking broke and either way I know the police ain't gonna 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,080 leave me alone on a plane by the physical and rock me. 7 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:29,720 Crypto told me I should be in the. 8 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,119 Glock way. So I packed up my piece and I'm 9 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:35,080 sliding slide because we might get caught up in a riot. 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,200 Middle finger Trump, middle finger Biden fucker. 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:44,480 Left fucker right as you riding. Politics, baby, we just talk. 12 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,920 From the birds to the bricks, we be in the mix with the rare 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:54,560 candy paint job on the whip to. The Cat Friendly Podcast, the 14 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,280 cat cast No, if you guys aren't watching I I started uploading 15 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,960 videos to Spotify now, so people like watch our videos now people 16 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,160 found out like that we have faces and stuff. 17 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,240 It's funny it's like we never been hiding, but like I guess 18 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,400 just people that listen on Spotify shows up on the thing. 19 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,720 It's pretty funny, but we have a director, Jay Curtis Miller here 20 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:19,960 today and recently I just watched his short called Jack, 21 00:01:19,960 --> 00:01:22,400 which was really, really good Halloween special. 22 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,040 I think that's going to be something I return to every 23 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,160 Halloween and stuff. But tell me about Knuckles right 24 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:30,720 now. That is something that you're, 25 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,960 you're, you're fundraising for it right now, right? 26 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:39,280 Yeah, yeah, we've got about a little more than a week to go, 27 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,440 or I think tomorrow we've got one more week. 28 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:46,080 But yeah, that's my next film project. 29 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:52,000 It's kind of like a short film, proof of concept hybrid. 30 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:57,160 And yeah, it's it's basically, it's so the past few films I've 31 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,200 done has been horror, as you mentioned to Jack and this other 32 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,120 short that they called MK Ultraviolence, and that was more 33 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:10,680 like kind of psychedelic horror. But I've been, as we'll talk 34 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,480 about later in this episode, I've been wanting to do like a 35 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,320 really cool fight scene for a very long time. 36 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,600 It's been kind of like in my blood, I guess. 37 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:26,120 And Knuckles is just kind of just one big long fight scene 38 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,040 set in the trailer park on 4th of July. 39 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:34,160 And yeah, it's in it. And throughout the fight you 40 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,040 kind of like learn why these two men are fighting and like their 41 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,120 back story and all that stuff. It's kind of like my first foray 42 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,800 into like non linear filmmaking. So that should be. 43 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,960 That should be fun, so. The fight, the fight scene is 44 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,320 something I, I've noticed is, you know, you, you see these 45 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,520 like trends come, you know, I feel like a couple years ago, 46 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,720 everybody was like, especially during like COVID was sitting 47 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,560 down and watching like Tarkovsky films, watching like high 48 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,800 concept high, you know, you know, it's almost surrealist 49 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,640 stuff, stuff that was kind of tough to grasp. 50 00:03:06,640 --> 00:03:08,880 I feel like everybody now just wants to like kick ass. 51 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:14,000 I've noticed like our our good friend Jay David Osborne, I've 52 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,200 been going through his new book, which everybody needs to go out 53 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,240 and get God's fair. No, better get that guys get it. 54 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,440 It's great. But it's just fights. 55 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,120 I mean, it's just, it's just guys getting their asses fucking 56 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,200 kicked in and just, it's just like, you know, there's great 57 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,440 all the stuff you can do around that. 58 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,040 And not everything is just a John Wick movie, which I I like 59 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,840 those too. But it's so much. 60 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,560 There's so much you can do when it's two men battling because 61 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,080 that's what we don't really see much anymore. 62 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,640 There's usually too many other moving parts involved that you 63 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,040 know that takes away some of the fangs of these things. 64 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:53,200 Yeah, One thing I kind of when I was writing the script, even 65 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,120 when I just had like the idea for it, I wanted to kind of get 66 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,840 out of the whole like we're in a warehouse, we're in a SWAT team 67 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:06,520 and handheld shakey Cam and just like one dude fight taking on 68 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,760 like 10 guys and it's like all mix of mixed martial arts, 69 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,480 karate. I wanted to get away from that. 70 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,000 I just wanted like 2 dudes just like bare knuckled fists just 71 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,839 pounding on each other. It's, it's more stylized in like 72 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:27,400 a boxing type of fight, less of like realistically it'd be like 73 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,120 on the ground and wrestling. But I, I just, I don't know, I 74 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,760 think there's just something really satisfying about them for 75 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:38,880 like of a two of a good like 1-2 punch and just like being 76 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,240 swollen faces, you know, blood gushing and sweating and all 77 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,680 that stuff. Have you guys ever seen somebody 78 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,800 get like truly, I'm talking like knocked out, like punching like 79 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,960 a raw steak sound like like have you ever heard seen that happen 80 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,360 in real life? It is crazy. 81 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,600 Like not in a controlled setting, not in like a like AMMA 82 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,960 or boxing, but like outside a club or something. 83 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,760 It's insane. I haven't seen that. 84 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:09,000 The closest I ever got to was like 9th grade when I was like a 85 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:14,200 freshman in high school during like 2 days during football 86 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:15,280 season. There you go. 87 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,360 I think the seniors would kind of like haze the freshman a 88 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:20,560 little bit. Oh yeah. 89 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,960 And make a start. Like it wasn't even the seniors. 90 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,360 It was like the sophomores because they had been like, 91 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,200 yeah, Haze the year prior. They wanted to like. 92 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,760 Dish it happen at the bit they they don't have senioritis. 93 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,680 They're like still trapped in it and they're like, I'm not a 94 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,360 freshman anymore. I totally know what you're 95 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,400 doing, I'm saying. And they're like, they're also 96 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:42,160 like fresh meat for like the JV team that that goes up against 97 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,680 the varsity team during practice because like the varsity, you 98 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:49,240 know, the varsity team is like they need somebody to tackle 99 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,240 like during these plays. But yeah, they like, I can't 100 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:58,160 remember if it was like in between those really long 2 day 101 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,000 practices, like after lunch or something, we had like an hour 102 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,840 to like chill down before the next one and they were slap 103 00:06:03,840 --> 00:06:06,600 boxing each other. And the like, the worst I ever 104 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:11,680 got was like right on my right ear, like full palm, like hit me 105 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,400 in the face and my, my ear just started ringing for like hours. 106 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,520 And like, it kind of like kind of made me dizzy too. 107 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,360 And like, we were doing like tackle drills because I was like 108 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:30,680 on the offensive line and I just like almost passed out just like 109 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:35,720 hours later, just this constant ringing and my like my ear was 110 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,440 fully like swollen, all that stuff. 111 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,160 So. Were you a were you, were you a 112 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,600 mauler or a tactician offensive lineman? 113 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,880 Did you like to go run block or were you were you past setting 114 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:49,200 and just, you know, crafting? I, I was third wheel trying to 115 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,000 just like not get, trying to get into the game because I was so 116 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,320 like terrible. I wasn't like, Oh yeah, I'm like 117 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,360 on the shorter side. So like, I was definitely bulky, 118 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,640 but I wasn't tall and big enough to like, you know, really like 119 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,040 protect the ball or anything. So I was just like, I was just 120 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,080 here because like, yeah, trying to be popular and all that. 121 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:11,960 Hell yeah. Oh, hey, I mean, that's the way 122 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:13,080 to do it. That's the way to do it. 123 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:14,600 That's the way to do it. So yeah, I'm. 124 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:15,680 I'm thinking about. So. 125 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,400 So I I'm, I'm, I love movies. However, making them is still 126 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,560 such a foreign concept to me. And. 127 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,760 And the more and more I hear about them, the less likely I 128 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,280 ever would want to be a part of them. 129 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,040 The best thing is when somebody just goes hey, can you help me 130 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,760 make my movie by clicking this link? 131 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:30,600 Yeah, sure. I'm there. 132 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,640 I'm absolutely there. Yeah, I love it. 133 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,760 I'm loving this concept. But what, when you're, I think a 134 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,800 lot of independent movies don't have a lot of fights. 135 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,400 Are they, are they expensive to make? 136 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,400 Like like a film that involves a lot of fighting, is that more 137 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:45,720 expensive? I never know. 138 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,160 You, you hear about like severance costing like $58 139 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,000 billion or whatever. And, and you're, I'm like, why, 140 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,280 why does it cost? I never know why movies cost the 141 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,720 way they do. We're talking about a couple big 142 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,840 budget ones today. But the, the like a fight scene, 143 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,400 like what goes into that? What you know in terms of 144 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,400 spending? Most of the money is just kind 145 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,680 of allocated towards getting the proper crew. 146 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,760 Like the entire fight is set at night. 147 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,640 So that's like a, that's like 2 overnight shoots. 148 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,960 So like 8:00 PM to 8:00 AM sort of thing. 149 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,320 And nobody's showing up for free for something like that. 150 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,720 So I, I want to make sure like the crew is compensated for 151 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:34,480 their time. I haven't gotten too deep into 152 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,000 like prep with like how I'm going to light it, but they have 153 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,480 these things called Condor lights, which are these big 154 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,120 massive light sources that you kind of just like shoot into 155 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:49,120 like a white board and it just kind of casts a light everywhere 156 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,160 like on the set. So like you can see because it's 157 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,640 hard to even with digital cameras now, it's like it's 158 00:08:55,640 --> 00:09:00,400 still like kind of hard to capture like all the nuances of 159 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,320 the set and all that. So that's like a big reason. 160 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:09,880 But for like fighting, I don't really see that costing like 161 00:09:10,680 --> 00:09:13,960 more than like an average horror film to me. 162 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:18,800 Because I'd hire on like a like a stunt coordinator and then 163 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,360 they would just kind of like help me block it and rehearse 164 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:27,400 the fight beforehand and be on set for like any sort of last 165 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,560 minute tweaks during takes with the actors and all that stuff. 166 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:37,480 But I think most of it is going into like the location and some 167 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,600 of the fireworks around the fight. 168 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,440 I said it was like set on the 4th of July. 169 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,840 So there'll be some fireworks in the background during that And, 170 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,720 and just people like extras around the fight since it's a 171 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,160 street fight. So that's like try to make it as 172 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:58,560 maximalist as I can on this type of short film and budget. 173 00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:01,080 So that's that's where it's kind of going towards. 174 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,360 Yeah, and it and and it's interesting because, you know, 175 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,560 I, I wonder, I don't even know the way to ask this. 176 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:09,640 I listen to a lot of like Brett Ellis podcast where he just 177 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,320 talks about like, you know, people will always ask him like, 178 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,920 hey, Brett, I wrote a script the other day like where should I 179 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,480 shop it? And he's like, I have no idea. 180 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,360 He's like, I just I don't like I this this system that you're 181 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,240 trying to get into doesn't really exist. 182 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,400 Yeah, I mean, I'm sure it does to a degree. 183 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,240 But I think what he's saying is like, this is not like, you 184 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,960 know, rolling into Hollywood. You know, I got my script. 185 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,440 Who wants it? Like, right. 186 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,360 You got to do everything on your own now, which, yeah, is a 187 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,880 blessing and a curse, I would guess. 188 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:44,480 Right. Yeah, it's easier now to make a 189 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:48,800 movie of your like any like if you want to make a movie, it's 190 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,920 you can totally do it right. One main band. 191 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:56,200 I mean, obviously like friend of the show, like Low Res has done 192 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,880 that twice with it is feature films. 193 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:05,600 It's just when it's kind of like a like a sole director filmmaker 194 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,280 type of endeavour, it's just going to take longer. 195 00:11:10,560 --> 00:11:14,840 You can you can make a project easier these days, but it's like 196 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,600 harder to get it seen. I think that's where we're kind 197 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:22,160 of like in a weird space, but. Podcasting is very similar, by 198 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,440 the way, Like, yeah, you can record it. 199 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,240 Like the it's the easiest thing to ever record. 200 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,640 It's the easiest thing you do. The hardest thing you do is for 201 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,600 someone to go. Yeah, I'll listen to that. 202 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:36,360 Yeah. But in a way that's like, I 203 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,880 mean, I can hear your take on it, but it like to me it's like 204 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,040 almost a little bit more freeing because you kind of over time 205 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:48,720 find your, your, your like your core audience. 206 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,160 Like that's like, you know, it's a niche audience or sort of 207 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,040 thing. And like, I, I don't know, like 208 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,080 all these big, I don't listen to like big podcasts. 209 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:03,960 Like I, I can't stand like overdone, over produced, just 210 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:08,640 garbage, you know, like that, that that's like, so we're in 211 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,920 kind of like a cool like indie spot with like all sorts of 212 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,160 media, which is exciting. 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You have to be comfortable with 236 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,800 crickets. You know, I've, I've just I've 237 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,640 noticed that is like you don't you have to be comfortable 238 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,760 talking to nobody. You know, you have to be cut or 239 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,280 feel, you know, your movie just just sitting on YouTube or 240 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,960 whatever, like it just it's going to you have to be able. 241 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,200 That's the hardest part of it all is just going like, I know 242 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,360 this thing's cool. I felt this euphoric feeling 243 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,040 when I got done with it. Why is nobody clicking on this? 244 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:41,000 But after a while, people one respect your consistency and and 245 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,320 just love that. It's like there every week. 246 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,600 Yeah, you know, and the podcast is very guest dependent. 247 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,760 So a lot of times people go, oh, that guy's going on there, Maybe 248 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,880 I'll check that out. But for the most part, you, I 249 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,040 would hate to have a boss in this, you know, like it's it's I 250 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:56,680 think we both would have got tired of this shit. 251 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,120 Even if the audience was three times the size, I think we both 252 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,680 would have got tired of actually doing this shit if we had to, if 253 00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:03,640 we had somebody coming over with analytics. 254 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,280 Yeah. And showing us like, hey, around 255 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,240 the 30 minute mark of every episode, we noticed something 256 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,680 Peters out a little or, you know, just just something like 257 00:14:10,680 --> 00:14:12,560 that would, would drive me insane. 258 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,960 Now, I, I like, you know, I, I'm comfortable and I, I think I 259 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:18,920 speak for him as well. I'm comfortable with just kind 260 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,000 of like we did this and this is what it is. 261 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,760 And we can try whatever we want. It can fail and we could just 262 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,920 try again next week, you know? Totally. 263 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,960 Yeah, so I, I don't know, I, I, I mean, like you with film. 264 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,880 It's the thing with film and I, you know, talking to people like 265 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,320 low res, I'm like, man, you sit on projects forever, which that 266 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,360 to me is the true torture. You know, it's just sitting on 267 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:41,360 something. If I have to sit on something 268 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,120 for like a week, I hate it, you know what I mean? 269 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,800 It's it's like that's the problem is like finding the 270 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,560 right I for film. I'm just like, do you just put 271 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,040 it on YouTube? Do you shop it to people like 272 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,960 you have the finished product, Then what do you do? 273 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,360 You know, that's always, that's the part I I find fascinating 274 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,960 with film today. Yeah, YouTube does help, 275 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:05,320 especially in the horror genre. You can upload like whatever 276 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,760 horror film you have. It has like a good thumbnail and 277 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,160 it says horror like in all caps, like in parentheses, like it's 278 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,320 going to get fed into some algorithm. 279 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,120 And like a lot of like, a lot of people get noticed that way. 280 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,680 But like I I've done the Film Festival route. 281 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:27,480 Like I don't think I think that's like a dead Ave. to like 282 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:33,840 pursue like I I mean, I I had a friend that like had this 283 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,880 incredible short film last year and went like all over the 284 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,000 country and other parts of the world. 285 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,320 And it's like I am nowhere closer of getting an actual 286 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,880 movie deal made than I was before I made this. 287 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:51,760 So it's it's tough. I think I don't know, like 288 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:57,440 creating some sort of online fan base and then like releasing it 289 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,720 that way, like direct to consumer could work. 290 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,240 I don't know, because he's obviously you still want to be 291 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,680 in theaters and like get because that's that's what we're making 292 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,280 it for. Like even every time I I make a 293 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,760 short film, like I'm setting up the shot for this gonna be in 294 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,840 theaters, right, Even if it's it's like just got to play in 295 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:25,400 some crappy Film Festival and like some, you know, hardly 296 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,200 could could call it a theater, but I don't know it. 297 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:33,160 It's it's definitely tough. But I think that I think like 298 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:39,320 the more you go like do it yourself, like that Ave. 299 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,360 And the more you do it, I think you're bound to, like, reach 300 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,480 those deals later on because I think that's basically like Sean 301 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:52,360 Baker's story, you know, like. Director of Anora who just won 302 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,080 for Right, That's what you're talking about. 303 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:55,320 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. 304 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,080 I, I, I think that's, I think that's the way to go, 'cause 305 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,120 it's like you, you know, when you're doing stuff 306 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,240 independently, you do sometimes go like, what am I doing though? 307 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,040 Like what, how long can I do this? 308 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,400 There's kind of a clock ticking. Sometimes you, it's tough you 309 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,680 when you're, you know, the wrong side of 30, you know, especially 310 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,079 like, they're just kind of like, how long, how long can I 311 00:17:15,079 --> 00:17:16,720 actually do that? How long can I actually, like, 312 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,200 carve out time in the evening and, and step away? 313 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,440 And, you know, even if the number goes up a little bit, 314 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,520 you're kind of like, yeah, but when's the when does the big 315 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,680 thing happen? Does the big thing happen? 316 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,400 But you know, that's why it's like nice. 317 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,960 Even though it's a completely dead archaic system, it is nice 318 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,080 to hear people like, you know, the random, I don't know, the 319 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,600 random directors of like the 70s that everyone champions now. 320 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,440 Like they took L after L after L on like grand scales. 321 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,720 And you're just like, wow, that is a special kind of humiliation 322 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,320 is like, you know, and then you get a guy like Francis Ford 323 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,880 Coppola who takes who takes a job that ends up being the 324 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,680 godfather. You know what I'm saying? 325 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,280 And like you do a similar thing. I noticed. 326 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,800 I don't, and I'm not saying you're taking a job, but like, 327 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,000 you do music videos. Yeah, quite a few of them, 328 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,200 including a guest that we've had on the show, Mario Cuomo. 329 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,200 You did The Leftovers music video, which is fantastic. 330 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,840 That was a fantastic music video. 331 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:11,880 Great. Great song, by the way. 332 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,520 I mean, it's a great song, great video. 333 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,640 He was telling the story that happened kind of like that was 334 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,120 just like a go, go, go thing, right? 335 00:18:19,120 --> 00:18:24,160 Like it just, it was real quick. Yeah, he had sent me the song 336 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,720 back in like August or September of last year. 337 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:32,400 We shot it in November and it was just a matter of like, when 338 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:37,480 can we schedule a date for you to come down to Nashville, shoot 339 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,920 this in like a day and have it done and ready by like 340 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,400 Thanksgiving. So like, we worked out those 341 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:49,800 kinks. But like I wanted it's weird 342 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:54,320 because like it's weird doing like night shoots for a music 343 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,360 video because actors are not going to stand, like are not 344 00:18:57,360 --> 00:19:01,520 going to hang around like after 10 on a music video. 345 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,800 That's like pretty low budget. Well, when you if you decide to 346 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,480 do rap, they will. By the way, I'm just kidding. 347 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,360 Of course, yeah, yeah. I've not done rap. 348 00:19:09,360 --> 00:19:11,600 I've done close to rap, like country rap. 349 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,000 I don't know if that. Yeah, yeah, I got. 350 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,720 You but yeah, like so that's like just awkward timing. 351 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:21,360 So like the the shoot ended up being like 5 hours, but like 352 00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:25,880 when it's in such a like a tiny kitchen, I was in my friend's 353 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,560 kitchen. Like you're you're able to just 354 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,920 move around quickly and get angles much quicker than like 355 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,960 moving location and moving crew. And I had a pretty small crew 356 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,880 like some of my friends from other music videos I did. 357 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,640 So that's like kind of what made it so fast and like editing. 358 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,200 It took me longer to edit than to like film because that one 359 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:51,280 was just like there's so many different like angles and shots 360 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,800 of Mario that I wanted to kind of like savor and like see where 361 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,560 I can throw that in at the second chorus. 362 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,280 I like throwing in like different angles at like the 363 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,320 second or third chorus and then just like cutting together the 364 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,240 storyline. That was just kind of like the 365 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,440 challenging aspect of that. And I'd imagine being in 366 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,040 Nashville puts you in proximity to some decent artists to to do 367 00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:15,000 to do music videos too, I would imagine. 368 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:21,280 Yeah, I'm mostly working like country music, mainly editing, 369 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,040 but lately I've been kind of directing like smaller. 370 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,960 They call them visualizers now. They just like the official 371 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,960 music video that you see on YouTube is starting to die down. 372 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,960 And that that makes basically means like they're cutting 373 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:38,040 budgets in like half, but they still want a video for content. 374 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,560 So it's kind of like a glorified performance video. 375 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,920 So that's like kind of where I come in. 376 00:20:44,360 --> 00:20:48,200 But like if you look at music videos from like the 80s and 377 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,840 90s, most of those are like glorified or like not glorified. 378 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,880 They are like the pinnacle performance videos. 379 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,680 It's just the artist like lit really well and shot really well 380 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:04,360 except for David Fincher, Michael Bay who made some pretty 381 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,200 awesome videos. Fincher did a Madonna video 382 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,640 right? I think so. 383 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,520 Yeah, I forget which one, but I know he did a Madonna video. 384 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,360 But yeah, I mean, like I said, there's a long standing history 385 00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:16,640 with film directors doing music videos. 386 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,200 It happens. Yeah. 387 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,000 Yeah. I think David Lynch did the 388 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,720 Wicked game one right for Chris Isaac, I think. 389 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,040 Or maybe I have that wrong. I'm not sure. 390 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,640 He's done some of his own. These videos are super bizarre. 391 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,440 Yeah, yeah, Wicked games kind of chill, Yeah, compared to that, 392 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,680 but yeah, absolutely. So what I mean when you're when 393 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,920 you're a kid, I mean, is this a passion you've had since you 394 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,240 were a kid? Is this something you picked up 395 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,400 in your in your, you know, in your 20s or whatever? 396 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,720 Or did you like, what's the thing? 397 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,400 What's the thing you watch that was like that? 398 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,720 I want to I want to do that. Well, I mean, like it's like, 399 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:55,320 honestly, it's these two movies. Like weirdly enough, like I, I, 400 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,600 I saw Rocky way before cliffhanger, but that's like 401 00:22:00,120 --> 00:22:02,440 what got me onto like the Stallone kick. 402 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,320 But yeah, I've been wanting to do this ever since I was like, 403 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:12,840 really young. Like for some reason, like back 404 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:18,560 when we had VHS, I'd like record like every like Sunday night 405 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,520 movie. And that to me felt like 406 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,720 filmmaking by pressing the record button and then like 407 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,480 taping over it felt like editing out of it. 408 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:31,880 But yeah, like, yeah, just basically want to do it since I 409 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,680 was like, really young. And it just found like music 410 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,120 videos was like a good way to just kind of like, almost like a 411 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:41,360 real film school where you could kind of like experiment and 412 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:45,840 like, kind of like mess around with stuff and like learn how to 413 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,440 like Amanda crew and craft and all that stuff. 414 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,440 Yeah, sweet. Well, I mean, that's a perfect 415 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,800 segue into let's talk about cliffhanger first, because I 416 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,680 don't know a lot about Sylvester Stallone. 417 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,840 I did not grow up watching Sylvester Stallone. 418 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,600 I mean, you do, but not in the way that a lot of people do. 419 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,680 He was not the everybody had their, like, action hero staple 420 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,960 in their house. And typically, I've noticed it 421 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,160 was somebody that like, the mom thought was hot and then the dad 422 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,560 thought was cool and they had like a mutual appreciation. 423 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,400 And then as a kid, you watch all their movies. 424 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:19,240 For me, it's the second guy we're talking about. 425 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,280 But, but Sylvester Stallone and I have seen now I've seen a lot 426 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,400 more Stallone films. But I I mean, he has an 427 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,000 interesting origin story. I mean, I'll tell you that much, 428 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:29,920 but. Yeah. 429 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,280 Tell me about Stallone before we get into cliffhanger. 430 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,360 What? Why Stallone? 431 00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:36,400 Why is he such a such an institution? 432 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,480 Well, for me it it all started with Rocky. 433 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,200 I guess like my personal journey with Stallone, it's all about 434 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:51,640 like just seeing that I, I can remember like clear as day. 435 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,360 When I first saw Rocky, I was just like, I think it was like a 436 00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:56,360 snow day and I had nothing to do. 437 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,240 And I was just like walking around the house and my dad was 438 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,560 watching Rocky. And it was that scene where he 439 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,680 confronts Mickey at the gym asking why he never gave him a 440 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,240 shot. And then he tells him he's just 441 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,600 like nothing but a loan shark and had the talent. 442 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:16,040 But now that he's like 30, like you're washed up as a boxer and 443 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:20,520 like, you wasted all that time breaking knuckles and like not, 444 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,160 you know, fighting in the ring. And I had no idea what that 445 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,000 meant when I was like 5 or 6 years old. 446 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,360 But like, just the way he walked, the way he talked, like 447 00:24:30,360 --> 00:24:35,040 his cadence in his voice was very just like unique for a 448 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,000 leading man. I can't remember I should know 449 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,720 this like off the top of my head, but he was born with like 450 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:47,760 a a cleft palate or something like so it's like half of his 451 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:52,240 face is kind of like droopy and paralyzed a little bit like very 452 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,840 miniscule. I might be completely wrong on 453 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,920 that fact. But like that's kind of like 454 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,440 what gives him that Stallone draw because his like brother 455 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,480 doesn't have it. So he just has like kind of like 456 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,800 that kind of unique persona going on. 457 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,520 And for me, it's just like he kind of, he kind of does what 458 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,920 we're all doing right now. He like wrote Rocky for himself 459 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:21,520 in like a three day span based off that one boxer. 460 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,880 I know his first name's Chuck. I don't know like everybody's 461 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,800 name like verbatim. But like, he knocked, he knocked 462 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:33,720 out, I think Muhammad Ali in like the third or fourth round. 463 00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:35,920 Which is, yeah, I know you're talking about, yeah. 464 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,040 Yeah, Chuck Web Webner. I don't know. 465 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,760 I could be wrong. Yeah. 466 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,560 So he saw that. I think he saw that live at like 467 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,080 Madison Square Garden and then. Yeah, Chuck Wetner, Chuck. 468 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,560 Wetner yeah. And then he just like, stayed up 469 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,880 for three days and started riding Rocky. 470 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,880 And then he he would not back down, you know, when he was 471 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:02,000 trying to shop this around to studios because they wanted like 472 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,960 Burt Reynolds or I think even like Frank Sinatra. 473 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,000 It was like there's like, there's always like that list of 474 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,400 actors that like was going to play this role. 475 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,160 But he like went back down. He like sold his dog that he 476 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,880 bought back during production, whose butt kiss. 477 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,280 So like that kind of like that. I don't know that kind of like 478 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:30,240 like endurance or something is just like always captivated me. 479 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,560 And I, I think I saw Cliffhanger like a right, right around the 480 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,520 time I saw the Patriot too, is that they were both like on TV. 481 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,760 Yeah, yeah. And like, I don't know, like for 482 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,320 me, I think I've seen Cliffhanger more than like any 483 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,520 other movie, especially at Stallone's, because that opening 484 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:54,040 scene and re watching it last week, it's like, it's so gut 485 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,080 wrenching. It's like his, I think 486 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,440 Cliffhanger is like his Mission Impossible because like they do 487 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,960 that huge helicopter shot where he's like underneath the Cliff 488 00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:06,440 and it's really him, you know, climbing that mountain. 489 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,920 It's like insane. I don't know that that movie 490 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,520 just has such a propulsive like pace to it. 491 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,720 There's like no fat at all to it. 492 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,720 It's just like go, go, go. It it's crazy and you think 493 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,560 cliffhanger is really cool like it's I I had never seen it 494 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,880 actually. Yeah, I had never seen it. 495 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,400 I I knew what it was. It was it's I was like wow, a 496 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,880 Denver Co like rock climbing action drama. 497 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,440 It sounds incredible and Stallone looks like hyper jacked 498 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,960 in this. It's it's out of control. 499 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,520 But he just lats like just lat pull ups all day. 500 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,080 It's just it's just such a like a show off like testosterone 501 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,640 Stallone movie and it's got this. 502 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:52,200 I mean, you think it blows its wad early, particularly with the 503 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,080 with the plain towing scene. Like you think you're like, how 504 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,040 do you like OK, the rest of the movie is going to be lame like 505 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,040 after this, because you and then you're like, Nah, actually, a 506 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,880 guy gets rammed into a into a icicle and icicle, but like 507 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,080 alone doing like a like like a guy. 508 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,160 It's amazing. I I love it. 509 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,800 I was like inside. Did you have you seen this 510 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,440 movie? Before, no, I I didn't know 511 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,200 about it, but then once I I totally got it, I was like, Oh 512 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,600 yeah, I see what this is. And yeah, I love the back story. 513 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,600 Michael Rooker, he's just getting taken to L after L the 514 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:27,360 whole movie. I know. 515 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,240 Michael Rooker, who played Henry Lee Lucas in Portrait of a 516 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,680 Serial Killer, which is an unhinged ass movie. 517 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,040 Like you're just, I can't. You can't. 518 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,000 It's like, it took me a while. I was like, damn, that's Henry 519 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,280 Lee Lucas right there. And I, I gotta be, I, I'm not 520 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,480 ashamed to admit I'm like, oh, that's The Walking Dead guy or 521 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,400 the Merle or whatever. You know that from the early. 522 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,160 I've never even seen that. Yeah, he's like the brother or 523 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,280 something. Yeah, so. 524 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,200 Interesting. John Lithgow. 525 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,680 I mean, you have John Lithgow hitting the British accent. 526 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,320 Love it. Yeah, Every, every. 527 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,880 I just love these like I love I it's got everything that's like 528 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,280 really cozy about that era too, of just like guy like, you know, 529 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,560 big action intro and then guys walking with like folders. 530 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,280 This guy's a bad fucking guy. This. 531 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,520 Oh yeah, dude. This folder you open it up, look 532 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,440 at all this crazy shit he did and you know, and then the like 533 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,720 the and then the beautiful, the beautiful Colorado scenes, the 534 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:22,040 beautiful horse ranch, whatever the horse rehabilitation ranch 535 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,960 with this horse girl, ex-wife, girlfriend, I have no idea. 536 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:25,880 He's wearing like a wedding ring. 537 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,200 I cannot couldn't even remember what their relationship was but. 538 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,480 I didn't catch that. Well, she had a wedding. 539 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,920 He had a wedding ring on. It's interesting. 540 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,960 I was like, wait, is there like a dead wife or something? 541 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,560 It doesn't matter. Yeah, it like literally doesn't 542 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,720 matter. Yeah, it doesn't matter at all. 543 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,360 It's like, it's kind of feminine of me to observe that, to be 544 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,240 honest about Stallone. But it was just hilarious. 545 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:51,000 But I yeah, shout out to Leon, by the way, I love yeah, Leon. 546 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,000 He popped the I just the other day. 547 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,720 We cut, you know, with low res. We covered above the rim where 548 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,760 he's with with two. He's Tupac's brother in Above 549 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,520 the Rim and he's an ex basketball player who threw a 550 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,600 dream away. And and he also played David 551 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,080 Ruffin in the Temptations movie, which was something I watched 552 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,160 over and over and over again as a kid. 553 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,920 It's probably bad, but I just like, had it on all the time 554 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,160 just randomly. And then I was like, he's like 555 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,200 Ichiro. He just has like one name in the 556 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,200 credits. I love it. 557 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,440 Yeah, absolutely. Like he's not a star in any way, 558 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,200 shape or form, but he's like, yeah, I only have one name. 559 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:25,960 It's Leon. Yeah. 560 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,760 I just. I know that shit. 561 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,480 Like growing up I was like, who is that guy? 562 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,080 Because they like never like match 2 was playing who it was 563 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,720 like Leon who's I was always like guessing which actor that 564 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,480 was, but. It's it's incredible. 565 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,840 But yeah, I just like this seems like this seems like such a a, a 566 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,360 fun project, you know what I mean? 567 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,880 Like such a fun thing to make. Like, you know, there's like, 568 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,280 it's probably got the same arduous process that making any 569 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,200 movie is, but you're just like, as the viewer, you're just like, 570 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,880 that looks so fucking sick. Oh, it's so fun. 571 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,520 You know, like kids playing with toys, like ramming vehicles 572 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,080 together, Michael Bay and South Park kind of thing. 573 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:09,320 The the helicopter, like I remember getting like a 574 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,000 helicopter that looked like that for Christmas because I was so 575 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,840 obsessed with that that movie and I'm like I'm single digits 576 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:22,160 like, you know, kid watching this movie it like re watching 577 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,920 it. It's still like kind of holds up 578 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:29,400 when like obviously in like some of the wide shots when the the 579 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:34,080 helicopter's like hanging, like they're hanging from a quite a 580 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,320 distance. Those step men are like fighting 581 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,160 on this helicopter and there's like, no, I'm assuming there's 582 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,000 like a safety net underneath, but I'm like that could still 583 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,760 like break and fall. Like obviously like Stallone and 584 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,080 Jonathan Lithgow were probably in like a studio, but that still 585 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,960 like looks insane and sick to me so. 586 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,520 Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. 587 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,600 I mean, you hear about that too. Like you hear about the Sam 588 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,240 Peckinpah, like stuff like people just like fall. 589 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,120 Like there's, there's a scene, I heard J David Osborne bring this 590 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,960 up and I I I know exactly what he's talking about. 591 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,160 There's a scene in like the Wild Bunch and this is what, late 60s 592 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,720 where there's a guy who like gets shot like western style out 593 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,280 of like the top of a, you know, like a two-story kind of thing. 594 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,000 And he just falls and he falls really awkwardly. 595 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,600 Like, I don't think he was meant to fall on this random piece of 596 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:18,960 wood. And I'm like, did that guy die? 597 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,680 That guy? I have a feeling that guy died 598 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,720 or something. Or I had like internal bleeding 599 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,720 or something. Something like insane where I 600 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,880 was like, man. And then like, that's why when 601 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,000 you watch like Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, like the Cliff 602 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,800 Booth character played by Brad Pitt, it's like it when you 603 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,880 realize like what stuntmen actually do for like, like in in 604 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,040 Hollywood, it's I don't know if it's that way anymore. 605 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,440 It's probably not. It's probably all Marvel with 606 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,320 like the little light bulb things all over you. 607 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,280 You know, I'm assuming that's how stuff does. 608 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,440 But man, there was an era where it was like stuntmen were 609 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:54,120 probably so tight, like. Oh yeah, I think there's like, I 610 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:59,400 don't know why this reminds me of this movie, but obviously 611 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,000 like animals too were like dead in like some of these older 612 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,480 movies. Like I don't know if you've seen 613 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,320 Heaven's Gate, there's so many shots of these like horses that 614 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,360 take like head dives on the side of mountains. 615 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,920 I'm like, that horse is dead. Even if it like walked away, 616 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,600 it's like that's you know, it's insane, but. 617 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,080 Andre Rublev is another one which is crazy where like 618 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,120 there's a horse that like there's a battle, there's the 619 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,400 Mongols or whatever that are invading the rush. 620 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,920 It's a very old school movie. And I just know in like 621 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,800 Communist Soviet Union, like they were not tripping off 622 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,680 killing an animal in a movie as well. 623 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,280 And especially in, you know, in the city. 624 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,440 I forget when that was made by the 60s or something. 625 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,800 And there's a horse that like runs up some steps like out of 626 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,040 fear and then just straight topples down and falls down. 627 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,160 I was like. Oh yeah. 628 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,680 I'm pretty sure that horse died and that's like it's it's sad 629 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,280 and and and police story is another one if you watch. 630 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,360 The That's a good one. The first police story with 631 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,280 Jackie Chan, you're like, holy shit. 632 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,840 Like the the stuff that that movie alone is like just for the 633 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,960 stunts is like unreal. And it is this very funny movie 634 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,520 too. But I was just like, these 635 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,679 movies are are crazy. But like, yeah, they keep the 636 00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:11,280 deaths keep getting crazier and crazier in cliffhanger. 637 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,360 That's what I like about it. And it's, you know, the the name 638 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,840 is a bit of a double entendre, but like it's it's just like it 639 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,040 was, it was so fun. We my wife and I watched it. 640 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,679 You know, you open some beers and just throw it on. 641 00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:24,199 It's just totally one of those movies which is a genre that 642 00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:26,880 doesn't exist anymore. Not so much the that action, but 643 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,080 the like, open up some beers and have some fun movie, Yeah. 644 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,040 Like the closest, the closest we get is like Top Gun Maverick, 645 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:39,880 which is like a really good movie but it's not as like gory 646 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,320 or violent. Like I would argue cliffhanger 647 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,159 in parts is like a slasher, especially how he kills Leon. 648 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,719 Leon with the blood in his mouth. 649 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,679 The blood in his mouth is crazy. You're like, whoa. 650 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,280 Yeah, and it kind of comes out of nowhere, like you think he's 651 00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,440 about to Stolen's about to get killed and he just like hits him 652 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,680 in the balls, grabs him by the balls and just shoves him 653 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,000 through that like little. It's not an icicle, but it's 654 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:11,440 like something in a cave. The Transporter movies were like 655 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,480 the last time I remember just thinking like, look how cool 656 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,520 this guy is. Then he's going to be cool and 657 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,440 nobody's going to kick his ass. There's going to be times where 658 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,400 you're going to think like, oh man, he's really, he's really 659 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,400 gotten himself into it now and then. 660 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,480 But he but you know, they're going to get out of it. 661 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,480 Like John Wick is great. I like the John Wick movies, but 662 00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:31,360 he's kind of like a sad sack character a little bit. 663 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,520 And then there's like that, that God awful Bob Odenkirk one where 664 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,160 he's like John Wick. Yeah, terrible. 665 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,840 Just like I I was like, no, no, no. 666 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,720 Can the guy be cool and like appealing and like women get 667 00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:45,000 excited about him? You know what I mean? 668 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,560 Like, can that be a thing? Can we can we scratch primal 669 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,040 itches with these movies a little bit? 670 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,800 Yeah, the thing about like that movie with Bob, Bob Owden, Kirk, 671 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,120 Nobody, Yeah, nobody. It's trying to take in every man 672 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,520 and make him like a like an assassin and can kick 673 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,320 everybody's ass and kill everybody. 674 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:08,480 But like the way movies like cliffhanger and die hard and 675 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,200 even like Lethal Weapon, they're able to take these like larger 676 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:17,920 than life guys and like they have like kind of there he goes 677 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,960 again. I love that it was like cameo. 678 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,760 They're able to take back these larger than life guys and like 679 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:32,320 give them like every man like back stories, but like also make 680 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,840 them like super likeable and like basically like these 681 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,280 killing machines. But it does it so well. 682 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,880 I don't know, like like for me, like John Wick, it's it's fun, 683 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,920 but it's it's like take. It's like it's taking it till 684 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,520 itself like too seriously, but also not at the same time. 685 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,440 It's like doesn't know how to commit like these movies like 686 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,520 like cliffhanger, like the character Gabe Walker. 687 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,960 It's like this is just who he is. 688 00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:02,920 Like he's able to like protect himself because he's he knows 689 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,720 these mountains, but it also is kind of funny. 690 00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:10,480 It's like he has no qualms about killing these guys anyway too. 691 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,160 It's like, it's not even like brought up as like a as like a 692 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,640 thing, you know? Right, So you're right. 693 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,400 And and nowadays I think you have like there, it's weird. 694 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,920 There's there's obviously you can go back and a lot of like 695 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,920 kind of like movie podcasty people will go back and like 696 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,280 Cobra is a big one with the one that they do and they go, this 697 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,480 is absurd. Let's laugh at it like this is 698 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,880 absurd. But then like nowadays you see 699 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,840 the new films that are like this, like let's take that Bob 700 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,240 Odenkirk movie. The irony's baked in already. 701 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:42,480 It's almost like they're waiting. 702 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,680 They're trying to avoid that crowd a little bit. 703 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,720 And I'm like, Nah, just like let them do that. 704 00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:47,720 Like it's fun. Who cares? 705 00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:50,960 Like, like it's still, you know, I could, if I wish I could have 706 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,560 seen cliffhanger on like a in the era of like big sprawling 707 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,560 cinema of the early 90s where I could just be like, that's 708 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,680 playing this weekend. I saw the commercial for that on 709 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,920 the football game this weekend. I'm going to go see that. 710 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,680 And then you're just like next weekend. 711 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,600 Something else is really cool is coming out too. 712 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,440 But like, yeah, you know what I mean? 713 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,320 Like it was just no big deal. And and and you don't worry. 714 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,040 You weren't worried about like, yeah, I could get bad reviews, 715 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,280 but not really like a movie. Like that's not if it's done 716 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,160 that well, it's going to do well. 717 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,640 You know, it's if it's that well, it's going to do well. 718 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:28,800 Well, like they put, they put so much and I would, I wouldn't 719 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,320 call this, I don't know if this is like an average action movie 720 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,560 of the 90s because like this was like pretty big budget for its 721 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,560 time. I think it was like 50 million, 722 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:43,680 which is like 150 or 200 now. So like definitely putting like 723 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,640 a lot of stake into it, but it's not like they're on location 724 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,440 like filming in these mountains. They're like freezing their ass 725 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:55,280 off like half the shots are like not like I don't know how much 726 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,680 you know about like continuity, but like half these don't match 727 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,960 because it's like snowing in one shot. 728 00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:03,400 And then it'll be like overcast, like slightly overcast sunny 729 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,920 because it's like that's they're on location, you know, and like 730 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,120 you can't you can't get those vistas anywhere else. 731 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,800 Like now they just put it in like a like a VR background, 732 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,760 like moving background, but like that. 733 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,120 And then like that stunt that was like mentioned earlier on 734 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,280 the planes, like that's a real guy, like sliding across 2 735 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,440 planes and like that's like 3 planes up in the air. 736 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,000 And like this cameraman is just like trying to film it, make 737 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,000 sure it's like in focus. You know, it's, I don't know, 738 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,840 like that's why you go to the movies, you know, like that's 739 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,480 because you want to see these like larger than life spectacles 740 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,640 on screen. And that's like going back to 741 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,760 your comment about like Cobra and how these like it's really 742 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,800 annoying, like podcasts like make fun of it. 743 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,120 It's like, dude, like you have what else are you going to do? 744 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,000 It's like that's what at the at the time, that's like what made 745 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,760 movies so special. You know, it's like, it was 746 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,160 cool. It still is cool. 747 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,720 It's like, but you're not like cool enough to like get it and 748 00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:08,440 you have to make it so ironic. But I could. 749 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,120 That's like another tangent. Well, there's a little too much 750 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,880 testosterone for them to actually lean into it sometimes. 751 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,880 Like they're trying, they're trying to hate on something 752 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,920 because it's not in vogue anymore, you know, I mean, we 753 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,560 got like, maybe they're hating on it to hate on it. 754 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,320 Like there's this classic laugh at everything big problem when 755 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,840 you go to screenings now and stuff of people just laughing. 756 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,960 Like that was my best. I went and saw Terrifier 3, 757 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,760 which I don't think is as good as two. 758 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,160 A lot of people liked it more than two. 759 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,000 But I went and saw it and people were, First off, there were kids 760 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,920 in the audience. People were just like kids, 761 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,800 which I'm like, you should not take your for kids to see this. 762 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,680 And and but then everybody was laughing. 763 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,320 I'm like this, like there's parts of terrifying that are 764 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,320 kind of funny, but like they're laughing at like everything. 765 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,800 And it was just people laughing at gore. 766 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,240 And I was like, this doesn't, I don't like this, you know, like 767 00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:57,600 there's people laughing. I went to, I went to see like 4 768 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,400 David Lynch movies at my local theatre, like art house theatre 769 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:06,640 because I'm like, I'm gonna hate the experience of watching it 770 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,640 with these people, but I have to see this. 771 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,720 I've never seen David Lynch movie on the big screen. 772 00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:13,760 I have to do it. And like it's the same, it's the 773 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,480 same thing. It's like they're laughing at 774 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,440 all the, the moments that are like inappropriate to laugh at. 775 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:24,120 Like they were laughing at like Isabel Rossellini. 776 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,400 And near the end of the movie Blue Velvet where she's like 777 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,920 fully naked, but it's like not as sexy naked. 778 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,720 She was completely like raped and like beat up and like, she's 779 00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:35,120 asking for help and they're like laughing at it because she has 780 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,600 like a funny voice and they're like, laughing at like 781 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,360 throughout a lost highway like it was. 782 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,360 Laughing at Lost Highway. That's not allowed. 783 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,360 I know it was like, but it's funny because they would laugh 784 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,840 at like, the memeable stuff. Yeah. 785 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,600 Robert. Robert Loggia or. 786 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,920 Whatever, he says some funny things at least. 787 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,680 That his PSA about not tailgating is like something I 788 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:04,400 lived by all time. But like but I could I could 789 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,040 sense they were getting uncomfortable during all the 790 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:11,080 like sex scenes and nude scenes, which is interesting. 791 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,840 Like I could hear some like people squirm. 792 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,840 It's like, I don't know, like they want to laugh at it, but 793 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,960 they also can't handle it at the same time. 794 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,360 Well, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're look, they're 795 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:23,760 like. Was the intimacy coordinator 796 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,640 consulted during this? I know not my poor, sweet David. 797 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,280 He's a eunuch. He would never do something. 798 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,480 It's like, no. David Lynch has a libido like 799 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,680 every man used to. You know, I like, like, David 800 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,400 Lynch likes all of this. I I hope you understand this, 801 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:37,720 guys. David Lynch is a pervert. 802 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,640 Yeah. He's a big time. 803 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:40,800 Pervert. RIP. 804 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,240 He's like, RIP, huge pervert, but he had the aw shucks, aw 805 00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:49,520 shucks, yes. Where everybody didn't know what 806 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,040 it like. Everybody was like, oh, that 807 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,320 David, he's he what he's doing is art. 808 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,600 It's like, no, it is art. But he's also a pervert. 809 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,360 He's yeah. There's no especially after 810 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,520 watching Lost sideways like he, there's something going on there 811 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,360 you like, and he got away with it like you know. 812 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,160 Still my favorite. That's still my favorite Lynch 813 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,320 movie. I love that movie. 814 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:09,520 That's great. Yeah. 815 00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:12,600 So, yeah, that, gosh, what was I going to say? 816 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,760 Oh, who is the Doctor Phil guy? This movie, the guy looks like 817 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,120 Doctor Phil. I see him all the time. 818 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,640 I love him. I see him all the time in movies 819 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,160 around this era. That's Rex Lynn. 820 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,320 I think he's married to. What's her name? 821 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,920 She's that country * Reba. Reba Mack. 822 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,360 He's married to Reba Mackintyre. I think so, yeah. 823 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,560 I think they just got married like five years ago. 824 00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:37,800 I was looking on his Wikipedia page. 825 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,680 But yeah, he's he's he's my favorite. 826 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:47,680 Like he has so many funny like excess cursing, like curse words 827 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,640 and like lines, especially when he's calling out Eric Whelan, 828 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,600 the very end on the walkie-talkie. 829 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,920 Like that sound like the best unfiltered, like, you know, 830 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,560 rants in an action movies like this. 831 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,080 But yeah, he was in. I know he's in rush hour. 832 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,880 Yeah, I don't know what. Else another classic and this is 833 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,760 a 90s classic, kind of forgotten classic for me. 834 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,520 I don't think this movie did that well in theaters. 835 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,520 Maybe it did. But breakdown Kurt Russell, that 836 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,760 movie rules. It's just straight up like 837 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,680 California desert trucker trucker thriller. 838 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,240 Oh my God, so classic. Like Kurt Russell plays like, 839 00:44:23,240 --> 00:44:26,760 not a yuppie, but just like a suburban guy and he and his car 840 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,600 breaks down and he's like, I'll send my wife by herself to go 841 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,600 get help. This trucker is really nice. 842 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,080 He'll take her somewhere and then she's kidnapped. 843 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,520 And then it's Kurt Russell. Fight or flight mode the rest of 844 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:37,480 the movie. Fantastic. 845 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,880 OK, maybe. Yeah, I highly recommend. 846 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,440 Yeah, I love it. But yeah, Cliffhanger was just 847 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,480 really fun. I was like, man, can movies just 848 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,920 be fun now? Like I'm so I'm so sick of like 849 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,040 the letter. I mean it's just like 850 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,880 letterboxed and like Reddit. I feel like directors now the 851 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,440 4th wall or the wall between that is like broken. 852 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,040 I feel like directors have that in their mind is like, what are 853 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,360 people in letterbox and Reddit? And are people going to pick it 854 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,320 in the Criterion closet? I'm just like, dude, please make 855 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,720 theaters are dying for theaters are dying for reasons out of 856 00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:10,280 their control. But also, there's just not that 857 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,800 fun theatre movie that isn't Marvel, that isn't an already 858 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,880 successful IP. Yeah, you know that. 859 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,240 Like just make a fun exploding movie. 860 00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:22,480 Like, gosh, like it's, I don't know, maybe it's tougher than 861 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:23,200 you think. I don't know. 862 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,560 But yeah. I don't know. 863 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:31,960 I don't know how you bring back that kind of sincerity of a of a 864 00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,880 movie. That cliffhanger is in that kind 865 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:38,000 of category, that kind of bombastic, kind of like, well, 866 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,640 it's a Stallone vehicle, so it's Stallone and then it's 867 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,560 cliffhanger. So like you're paying for 868 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,160 Stallone first and then you're paying for like the movie under 869 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,760 that, which you don't don't really have any more. 870 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,360 The closest we have is like Mission Impossible, which I'm a 871 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,920 huge fan of. So every time that comes out, 872 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,520 I'm like there day one, but like, but that used to be the 873 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,200 norm. That's that wasn't like a 874 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,840 rarity. It was like, you know, I don't 875 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,400 know, like it, you're right. Like the, the whole letterbox 876 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,160 thing, the Reddit thing. It, it, I'm not going to lie, it 877 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,720 is a thing that I feel like you think about when you're making 878 00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:13,960 something and it's like, I don't know, like I think directors 879 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,600 were more concerned about like getting their days done, like 880 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,720 having no cell phones on set, like having nothing but time to 881 00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:24,400 think about the project. And then also doing cocaine on 882 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:29,800 the side probably helped. Absolutely, yeah, 100% one of 883 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,680 the best, like just of the like the the I'm not going to call 884 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,000 him shitty because I don't think this movie was shitty, though I 885 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,000 haven't revisited, but like I remember my grandfather him and 886 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,000 I like he he was like really old like for my grandma. 887 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,520 I think you had my dad when he was really old and then he was 888 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,160 really old when I was a kid and he was just, I didn't dislike 889 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,000 him. I ended up as I got older, I 890 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,240 loved him, but I just didn't like know what to like talk to 891 00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:54,840 him about when I was just 8 or whatever. 892 00:46:55,120 --> 00:47:00,440 And he, he one day he took me to see a movie and he had seen it 893 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,640 on TV. It's called Triple X. 894 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,800 First he's like, you know, my grandma's like you're taking him 895 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:10,360 to porn, you know, and, and so then we go and see it and he 896 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:11,920 thinks like, I'm just going to really like it. 897 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,920 I'm going to like score points with my grandson. 898 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,960 And I did love it. And we're both just like eating 899 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,920 M&M's and just like straight up jaw on the floor. 900 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,080 My grandpa who's like maybe the last movie that he had really, 901 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,720 he was like really into like movies like Crimson Tide and 902 00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:28,000 like, oh sure, yeah, great movies, but like ship dramas, 903 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,360 Navy, like, you know, stuff Gene Hackman, stuff like that. 904 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,920 But he was just like, this is a dude jumping out of a plane into 905 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,560 a Dodge Viper and then like like an already running Dodge Viper. 906 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,280 And the guys, it was Vin Diesel. And my grandpa couldn't stop 907 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,480 talking about it for like 5 years. 908 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,600 It was not even like I'm sure me being there was a lot of fun for 909 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,560 him, but he was like, no, the movie was sick. 910 00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:48,920 He was like, and he watched like. 911 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,360 I think he watched the first Fast and the Furious because of 912 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,240 it. Like. 913 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,520 This is Vin Diesel because he's like that's what you did. 914 00:47:54,600 --> 00:48:00,120 His era was like what is the next, you know, Charlton Esten 915 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,880 movie, you know what I mean? Like his era, like whatever he's 916 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,520 doing next, that's what we're going to go see. 917 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,600 I don't know, kept up with the franchise. 918 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,320 I don't think he did with Fast. There is, but or the ice? 919 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,280 I don't think. I don't. 920 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,040 For some reason I don't think he followed the Triple X Ice Cube 921 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:15,520 version. For some reason, yeah, State of 922 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:20,000 the Union, that was just like a sequel, but like spin off, I 923 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,840 don't know. Yeah, I don't think I think 924 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,160 already the bald Italian was a stretch for him. 925 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,120 But the, you know, Ice Cube might have been too A bridged 926 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,280 too far. Yeah. 927 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,040 Should we talk about the Patriot? 928 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,360 Yeah. The pay any, any last thoughts 929 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,480 on cliffhanger guys? I, I I, I mean, we could always 930 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,720 come back to it, but I, I, I loved it. 931 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,600 Highly recommend. What's that? 932 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:43,960 No, I think we're good. I'm good. 933 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,120 OK. I'll probably bring it back up, 934 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,040 but. Of course, Stallone Gibson, Of 935 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,840 course they fought once. You should have sent me a clip. 936 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,200 They fought in The Expendables 3. 937 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,360 Yeah, Mel Gibson and Stallone. That's so tight. 938 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,640 Like, I know I never watched those. 939 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,440 I I haven't watched any of them. I I was like, that can't be 940 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:02,720 good. But like, I know some people 941 00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:03,760 that actually quite enjoyed them. 942 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:09,400 I've only seen one and two. 2 is better than the first one. 943 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,800 The first one. Stallone directed the first one 944 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:18,080 and he did that right after Rainbow four, or Rainbow as it's 945 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:22,280 called, which is really good. But like Rainbow has like kind 946 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,760 of like a serious tone to it. It's like horrifically violent. 947 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:31,120 And the first Expendables movie is like not having fun with 948 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,640 itself. Like it's taking itself a little 949 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,840 too seriously with like there's like a full on waterboarding 950 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,520 scene that's like in detail, like handheld up close. 951 00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:44,720 And it goes on for like 2 or 3 minutes and it's like, can we 952 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,600 get back to Dolph Lunderyn, like? 953 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,400 You know, exactly. That's what I'm here for. 954 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,320 I'm here for the, I'm here for to watch these guys like, you 955 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:56,040 know, who were staples, you know, and it's, it's basically 956 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,160 like a Marvel Universe, like Avengers, but for these guys, 957 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,760 you know. Predated Adventures 2 that's. 958 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,240 True. Yeah, There you go. 959 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,480 From the Five. To the six we be in the mess 960 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:13,920 without making me paint job on the wind. 961 00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:20,280 I need food for the kids, money for the red. 962 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,800 So The Patriots is directed by Roland Emmerich and he directed 963 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,920 Independence Day, I think was his biggest smash. 964 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:42,000 I would guess this one was too. He would eventually do like 2012 965 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,080 I think was another one. I don't, I looked at his 966 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,160 filmography and I'm just like, yeah, there's it's just all like 967 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,280 disaster movies that I don't watch typically. 968 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,240 Like, I mean, not that I don't, I avoid them, but I was like, oh 969 00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:55,920 man, this guy really didn't do much else, did he? 970 00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:00,480 Like that was worth it. But hey, had two smash hits and, 971 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,040 you know, as Orson Welles says, you only need one, which I don't 972 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,520 think. I don't think it's true. 973 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,080 He just made Citizen Kane. Yeah, Yeah. 974 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,320 All right, dude. And. 975 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,120 At 25. At 25 years old, dude, I heard 976 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,320 Peter Bogdanovich talk about because I covered The Last 977 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,800 Picture Show not long ago, and he was like, I felt like such a 978 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,160 failure because I said if I didn't make my first feature by 979 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,840 25 like Orson Welles, I felt like such a failure. 980 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,480 I was like, dude, shut. Up, yeah. 981 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,720 Like, like, like you're going to make me suicidal. 982 00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:35,120 It's it's 23 because Paul Thomas Samson did heart eight at 23. 983 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,400 It's like we could bam off the brakes. 984 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,040 You got time, you know. I'll put it to you this way, I 985 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,520 don't think Heart 8's any good. So he didn't make his first good 986 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,080 film after for a while to be. Honest, I'll totally. 987 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,640 Like, I mean, it's impressive. It's an impressive for like what 988 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,160 it was, but I was and the fact that he got the people in it 989 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,080 that were in there, I was like, wow, that's that's pretty 990 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,440 impressive. But I remember I went through 991 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,880 like all his filmography. I was like, yeah, that's people 992 00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,640 like pretend that that's his best movie and I just. 993 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,360 Don't think it's not Boogie Nights is his best. 994 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:03,800 I love There Will be blood but Boogie Nights. 995 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,240 For Boogie, Boogie Nights is the most like rewatchable. 996 00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:08,440 Like There Will Be Blood is like you get a craving for it every 997 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,680 couple of years and you watch it and you're like, Oh my God, the 998 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,360 you know, the scene of leaving his son on the train. 999 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,520 You're just like, oh God, yeah, it's a it's this like it takes 1000 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,800 so much out of you. Whereas Boogie Nights is like, 1001 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,960 holy shit, that's like an A porn epic. 1002 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,520 Like it's never happened and it's so cool. 1003 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:30,440 So then OK, the the patriot I this was a movie like you said. 1004 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,240 I watched like over and over again, like on TVI think I but 1005 00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:36,320 we grew. I did not have money growing up, 1006 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,600 but my parents had HBO. Like there would be times like 1007 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,400 our phones would be off, like straight up. 1008 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,000 But like the TV was popping like, yeah, like which, hey, I 1009 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,400 would do the same thing. Yeah. 1010 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,400 Why would I wanna hear the bill collectors call? 1011 00:52:49,720 --> 00:52:53,400 And but the cable bill with HBO was on. 1012 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,520 And that was like, not everybody had HBO back then like you do 1013 00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,000 now. And I the patriot was always on. 1014 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,560 I heard her watching it and I was like, this movie's fucking 1015 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,160 sick. And and then like you would 1016 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,520 rewatch it And what makes it so cool? 1017 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,160 Obviously Mel Gibson makes it so cool. 1018 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,640 Mel Gibson dad core. Like, yes, it's it's you cannot 1019 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:18,840 Mel Gibson dad core era from which was from, I guess 2000 up 1020 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:23,360 until that cartel, that blood father movie, which is great. 1021 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,800 Yeah. That was like that era of like 1022 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,640 just 10 years of I think a decade of Mel Gibson dad corps 1023 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,840 movies. Signs, which I am an apologist 1024 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:31,880 for. I love Signs. 1025 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,320 Yeah. And I'm forgetting a couple, I'm 1026 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,840 sure, but like just just those edge of darkness. 1027 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:44,120 Ransom he's a, he's avenging his like, yeah, Ransom that that has 1028 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:45,920 an awesome fight scene at the end too. 1029 00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:49,400 Yeah, dead wife core too. Big time widower. 1030 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,440 He's a big time widower guy. Like wife is like always dead in 1031 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,320 the movie. And I would watch it over and 1032 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:56,880 over again. But what makes it really crazy 1033 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,880 is that it starts off like literally like Disney level 1034 00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:03,520 corny, like just like, wow, these are like Disney level 1035 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,960 corny, but like the sprawling, beautifully shot, like fields 1036 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,400 and like all this is incredible. And then it turns into like 1037 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,760 disgusting gore and out of nowhere, like guys legs getting 1038 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,360 sawed off and you're like, what is this? 1039 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,000 As as I get older and older, I'm like, I can't believe this ever 1040 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,160 happened. And it's a by the way, it's a 1041 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,720 movie about America, which a lot a lot of people probably don't 1042 00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:30,800 like, you know, right. I love it though. 1043 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,320 Sigh. You, you're a big fan. 1044 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,840 And yeah, you and I are in agreement on this, right? 1045 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,280 It's better than Braveheart. Yeah, it's always been my 1046 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:39,920 favorite. It's the best. 1047 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,240 And I'm not a Mel Gibson expert by any means, but it's always 1048 00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:47,480 been my favorite male. And I tried from, I watched it 1049 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,160 mainly, I gotta be honest, in clips. 1050 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:51,440 So were you watching for this time? 1051 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,320 Because I couldn't find it online. 1052 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:54,920 It was on Tubi, but it wouldn't let me click it. 1053 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,760 And it was in like Spanish. Yeah. 1054 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,480 And I was just. But but it rules. 1055 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,600 Oh, no, the span. No, that sorry. 1056 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,200 By the way, the Spanish is English. 1057 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,240 I because when I rented it on prime, it said El Patriota. 1058 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,760 El Patriota, which is tight. Yeah, like that is tight. 1059 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,560 It is like yeah, it is tight. Yeah, like, but but I was like, 1060 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:12,680 what is it? Because they're doing weird 1061 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,400 things to Mel's movies. I've noticed they took Isaiah 1062 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,200 33, the scripture out of Passion of the Christ ran on streaming 1063 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,200 service. Yeah, interesting. 1064 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,240 I have thoughts on that. That I won't say. 1065 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,360 Right. Is that the is that the opening 1066 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,440 verse? Yeah, OK. 1067 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,640 Yeah, by the by the way, I forgot to comment on 1068 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,680 Cliffhanger, the title card, one of the best ever title. 1069 00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:36,840 Yeah, but yeah, but The Patriot Yeah, but on the I just saw 1070 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,440 somebody on Twitter post that and I haven't rewatched it and I 1071 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,800 have a DVD copy of it, but I rented Passion of the Christ 1072 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,320 last year. I was bleeding wisdom teeth out, 1073 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,360 wanted to wanted to bleed with my savior, you know, and 1074 00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:51,160 solidarity with my Savior. But I I was watching it and it 1075 00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,080 was on during that because it's a beautiful verse. 1076 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,040 But yeah, like there are people like reporting. 1077 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,280 It's just gone like from the current. 1078 00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,480 I'm like, that is weird. Yeah, yeah. 1079 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,200 So just that's technically Mel Gibson dad core movie in a way 1080 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:08,040 too Passion of the Christ. Think about it. 1081 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,040 Yeah. The dad. 1082 00:56:11,240 --> 00:56:15,160 Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. But yeah, I you're. 1083 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,520 But you're like, I love the. I just love this movie because 1084 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:24,320 for one, it's such a formula. And I love the formulas of these 1085 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,120 movies, like the formula of the Stallone vehicle, the Mel 1086 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:28,080 Gibson. You're allowed to. 1087 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,440 You can do more things with Mel than you can Stallone. 1088 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,680 I mean, I just, you just can. And because Mel Gibson is the 1089 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,520 best movie crier to ever exist. 100%. 1090 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,200 Dude, his twitching of his face, it kills me. 1091 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,720 Like when he's when, when he's holding Heath Ledger, you're 1092 00:56:41,720 --> 00:56:45,240 just like, like it's so. Sad wretching. 1093 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,360 It's not. Wretching that and the even the 1094 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,480 scene when he says goodbye to his daughter and the daughter 1095 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:57,480 finally like talks to him like that had me like choked up a 1096 00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,800 little bit too. The way he's just like desperate 1097 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:05,640 not to leave, looking at his soon to be wife but also 1098 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:10,880 sister-in-law. Base base, by the way, I think 1099 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:12,800 that's time I told my wife the same thing. 1100 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,160 I was like, I don't have a brother, but if I did, that's 1101 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,240 what I would expect to happen if I went like, I'm medieval with 1102 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,000 it, dude, unless he's like a junkie or something. 1103 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,880 But like otherwise I'd be like, no, that's you don't have a 1104 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:23,680 choice. It's him now. 1105 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,760 Like, yeah, I feel like. But then we can all like then in 1106 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,200 heaven, like you're kind of like, at least I know that guy, 1107 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,840 you know, it's not like I have to do some dude you met on like 1108 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,320 Tinder, you know, and that's. Totally awkward. 1109 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:35,920 Yeah, yeah. Really. 1110 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,560 Yeah, let's not talk about that. But we have eternity for us. 1111 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,520 Yeah. Is it Charles? 1112 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:41,800 Yeah. Or is that Yeah, you're just 1113 00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,680 like saying, I don't know, I wouldn't want that so. 1114 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,120 But yeah, that part is crazy. Isn't that his actual daughter 1115 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,120 too? I don't know, it could be. 1116 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,920 I thought the blonde girl was his actual daughter and he only 1117 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,840 has one daughter. He's got like 50 kids, but. 1118 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,960 Yeah, he's got quite a few. Yeah, amazing. 1119 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:02,080 But yeah, he. Did a great job, you know, like 1120 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,480 crying in that so Oh my God, oh it's. 1121 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,360 Brutal man, I got. But yeah, it starts off. 1122 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:12,120 There's like these gags in this movie that are like stupid, like 1123 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:16,040 the the ink thing is like so dumb, but it but then it sets up 1124 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,800 just straight up dread for the rest of the movie. 1125 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,240 Like it just pressed the dread so perfectly. 1126 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,600 Like I've just never seen any. And I think maybe that's a 1127 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,280 testament to like Roland Emmerich, just maybe not like 1128 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,520 making that many good movies like I just want. 1129 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:33,680 I I have a theory that he didn't direct half of this. 1130 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:34,600 Yeah. Mel. 1131 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,480 And this feels like Mel took over at some point because I 1132 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,160 I'll be honest, I don't like Roland Emmerich that much. 1133 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,680 Like I don't like Independence Day, I hate 2012. 1134 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,120 I think that's the last movie I've ever seen of his like that 1135 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:53,480 was just garbage to me. And like he Michael Bay is 1136 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,440 better in this regard. Actually you respect Michael 1137 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,520 Bay, but like Michael Bay does that annoying sidekick better 1138 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,360 than the Roland Emmerich does. Like it. 1139 00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,560 Roland Emmerich always has like this neebish kind of like self 1140 00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:12,240 hating Jew character in his movies and like, I don't know, 1141 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,880 it always just like rubs me out the wrong way. 1142 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,240 But yeah, there's none of like there's silly gags in the 1143 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:22,880 Patriot, but all of like the battle scenes and like the 1144 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:27,560 emotional stuff feels like Gibson had his hand like 1145 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,600 directly over that. And it, and it's weird and I 1146 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,640 wonder how much 'cause you watch, I think that Blood Father 1147 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,240 movie that came out much later that's directed by someone else. 1148 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,680 But it felt like just like, I'm the biggest Mel Gibson fan of 1149 00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:40,320 all time. Let me do everything Mel would 1150 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,920 like, want in a movie. And I almost wonder if that's 1151 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,520 where we're at sometimes where it's like even just Mel's 1152 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,240 presence is like, well, this is, this is we're just doing the Mel 1153 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,400 Gibson thing because it works. Oh, well, you know, Lethal 1154 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:52,680 Weapon. Lethal Weapons, Another movie 1155 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:56,760 where his wife's dead. Yeah, that scene always kills 1156 00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:57,760 me. Lethal up when he looks at the 1157 00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,840 picture and he just like, yeah, he can't handle it. 1158 00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:01,840 But yeah, what were you gonna say? 1159 01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:05,240 So. Just on this topic, I like the 1160 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:11,080 fat with Apocalypto. Any of these Braveheart like the 1161 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,640 church scene burning everyone alive, the red coats burning 1162 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:17,160 where they always have to do these little fact checks of the 1163 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,600 history of Mel Gibson movies. Like I hate that. 1164 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,560 Remember how much? You know, yeah. 1165 01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,440 And it's, I just love that part of it, that. 1166 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,480 First off, fuck that, fuck the British. 1167 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,440 Yeah. I, I especially right now, like 1168 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,680 right now watching this movie, I, I like, I've never been like 1169 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:36,120 rah rah American flag guy. Right now I kind of am, but 1170 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,200 especially when it comes to Britain after what they've put 1171 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,320 out on Netflix. Recently we just, we just never, 1172 01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,280 we just never have to listen to them again on anything. 1173 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:44,640 You know, it's just, yeah, we're we're done. 1174 01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:47,800 And I'm hired, but it's like on both hands, like they persecuted 1175 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:49,320 both. You know what I'm saying? 1176 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,440 Like I I don't. Worst empire ever. 1177 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,640 But you know what I mean? There's just always this weird, 1178 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:58,440 like kind of nagging, kind of like going after Mel. 1179 01:00:58,440 --> 01:00:59,760 It's always been that way too, you know? 1180 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,400 It's just always like, actually that never really happened. 1181 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,360 And it's like, it's a fucking movie, first of all, you know? 1182 01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:06,760 And I don't know, it's just. Funny. 1183 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,600 Well like I said, any YouTube that does that to Mel Gibson 1184 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,240 movies, I then take their go on their channel and I search 1185 01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,760 hidden figures and they don't. They didn't Fact Check hidden. 1186 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,240 Figures. So, all right, it is, it is 1187 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:25,440 astounding how many like if you just YouTube the Patriot review 1188 01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:29,920 or you'll just get a whole stack of just like worst written 1189 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,240 character ever. Like, yeah, the Patriot 1190 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:38,520 misogynist, you know, like. Yes, I don't know, like yes. 1191 01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,520 And, and you Google it too and it's, it's nothing but just like 1192 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,800 bad articles. And you get the same not to an 1193 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,720 extent because I think Braveheart, because it's like 1194 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,800 such an award-winning movie. I don't think the Patriot won 1195 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,960 anything or was nominated for even best picture. 1196 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:58,520 But even that is, is it's always like there's a slander of like 1197 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:03,840 Mel Gibson's movies that are trying to like get you away from 1198 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,200 watching it. It's it's a weird little 1199 01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,720 conspiracy that I kind of like stumbled upon. 1200 01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,440 Like even last night, like after rewatching it, I was just like, 1201 01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,680 I want to hear, I want to find at least a review about the 1202 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,880 movie and not about how accurate it was. 1203 01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,680 And I couldn't find one. Oh, no, and and there isn't like 1204 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,400 this like objective, like final boss quality. 1205 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,720 If you hate Mel Gibson, like you got to break out your big guns 1206 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,800 to take him down. Like there's just because 1207 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,880 because First off, everyone loves him secretly. 1208 01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,800 Like that's the problem. Like, hey, I dude, when I was 1209 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,600 growing up, now I'm come from a family of like Democrats who 1210 01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:40,560 don't like him anymore, you know, but my, my mom had a 1211 01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,600 friend who she also doesn't like him anymore. 1212 01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:46,440 She had a dog named Riggs, a dog named Mel. 1213 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:50,400 And like, and I swear to God, dude, like she was just, she was 1214 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,680 a hairdresser. So his like big ass, like 1215 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,480 feathery mullet back in the day, like was, was, was set in her 1216 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,720 wild. And because it's just Mel's just 1217 01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,360 high tea. He's just, he's just super high 1218 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:00,920 tea. They don't know what to do about 1219 01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:02,720 this guy. Like, I'm OK. 1220 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,360 Even people that hated him after passion of the Christ, which 1221 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,080 yeah, a lot of haters after that, the same people that hate 1222 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,440 him gave him a bunch of money to make Apocalypto right after they 1223 01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:12,640 were like, you're still hella tight. 1224 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,680 You're still hella tight. The so now there's like the I I 1225 01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,000 saw flight risk in theaters and had a great time. 1226 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,520 I had a great time. It's dumb, but it's it's a it's 1227 01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,600 a fun. That was what I was talking 1228 01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:24,800 about. It's just a fun movie that's 1229 01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,200 self aware. Mel goes on Rogan and says, 1230 01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,240 look, this is my fun movie. This is my fun movie. 1231 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,480 I'm making passion too. I can't. 1232 01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:33,360 I cannot. Wait, I can't wait either. 1233 01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,640 My God, Kavita is back too. Or. 1234 01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,920 He's going to be sick. Yeah, I'm so pumped. 1235 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,280 Like I I just, I can't wait for that. 1236 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,400 But a couple things about this movie that I love is right off 1237 01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:49,360 the bat you get a a kid dying like Jason Isaacs is is 1238 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,920 ruthless. He's having a huge revival 1239 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:56,720 because of White Lotus and rightfully so, but the the Jason 1240 01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,360 Isaacs back then you have he's in Harry Potter right around 1241 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,960 this time too, as luscious villain face to the core, just 1242 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:08,360 British evil bird like villain that he has though his hair 1243 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,320 looks sick as fuck in the Heath Ledger scene. 1244 01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,760 I will say like I I was like, is that real hair? 1245 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,960 Like it looks real. His hair, Mel has extensions, 1246 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:20,360 you can tell, but like his hair was like whipping in that Heath 1247 01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,840 Ledger scene with his gay little British sword that he brings 1248 01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:24,880 out. And like, yeah, he's like, but 1249 01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,280 but he's he's ruthless and he shoots that kid. 1250 01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,200 And these are all like, look like Disney Channel kids. 1251 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,040 I feel like I've recognized these kids from like Disney 1252 01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,920 Channel original movies and just getting caught in the back in 1253 01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,480 front of their house, you know? Like what like. 1254 01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,000 What? This movie is amazing though. 1255 01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,880 I mean the just the the forest scene, it's probably one of the 1256 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,640 best action scenes. The hatchet, the hatchet scene, 1257 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,760 giving your kids the gun. Have you given your kids guns 1258 01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:50,560 and saying aim small, miss small. 1259 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,200 And they're saying it's it's real Disney. 1260 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:53,920 There's a real Disney corniness to it. 1261 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,680 But then like some crazy shit is happening. 1262 01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,000 You're like, whoa. Yeah, I agree. 1263 01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:01,000 He had to have directed that scene specifically. 1264 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,760 Like, there's no way. Roland Emerick, I don't know. 1265 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,120 I just don't think Roland Emerick has that in him. 1266 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:08,320 I agree. I agree. 1267 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,000 I agree. Because you're expecting all 1268 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,720 these other, when you look up his filmography, you're 1269 01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:13,600 expecting like, oh, he did that. Yeah, that makes sense. 1270 01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:15,040 Oh, he did that. Yeah, that makes sense. 1271 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:16,360 That's a good movie. And you're like, Nah, he doesn't 1272 01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,000 really. I'm neutral on Independence Day. 1273 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,480 I it was never my favorite. I just, I, I have a soft spot 1274 01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,560 for it because I listen to Art Bell coast to Coast all the time 1275 01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,680 and his stuff from that time. Everyone's calling. 1276 01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,520 Hey, Art, this is Jim from New Mexico. 1277 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:32,840 Have you seen Independence Day yet? 1278 01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:34,520 I'm done. He's like, no, no, I haven't 1279 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,600 seen it yet. I will say, Art, you got to see 1280 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,560 Independence Day because it's an alien movie. 1281 01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,280 I do. That's my bet, my positive 1282 01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,520 memory of Independence Day. I have a feeling I wouldn't like 1283 01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,320 it if I watched it again just. Will Smith Will Smith's stuff in 1284 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,200 general just doesn't age well. Music movie, you know, like I 1285 01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:52,640 hate to say I I got respect for the dude, but it's just you 1286 01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:56,720 watch like I robot or whatever, it's it's just Gorny. 1287 01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,160 It's kind of cool. I do like I robot. 1288 01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:03,280 Comedy as a comedic actor, I really like and bad boys wanted 1289 01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,680 there we go are fantastic. Like and and because it's it's 1290 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,720 Will Smith just being funny and Mike Lowrey, you know what I'm 1291 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:12,880 saying? Like like and Martin him and 1292 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:16,000 Martin Lawrence play well together to classic like 90s, 1293 01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,400 you know, comic comedic sitcom actors essentially. 1294 01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:23,040 And and that stuff works. But yeah, like, I am Legend, my 1295 01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,960 robot is terrible. Like I, I just don't like that 1296 01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,320 movie at all. Yeah, I, I don't know. 1297 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,000 What was the I did not murder him. 1298 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:32,960 It's one of the best lines of all. 1299 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:34,200 Time, yeah. What's the one? 1300 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:38,960 What's the one where he where 5 lbs Or what's what's that one 1301 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:40,760 that did? Not go. 1302 01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,320 I think it's 7 lbs. Seven. 1303 01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,360 Yeah, whatever. He was trying to do the pursuit 1304 01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,120 of happiness, I think, but it failed or something. 1305 01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,320 Yeah, but people, I mean, I swear, when we were in high 1306 01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,600 school, remember, he was like, everyone's like, have you seen I 1307 01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:53,680 Am Legend? I'm legend. 1308 01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:57,640 I saw that in theaters. Line, you know, but but yeah, 1309 01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:01,000 Mel, I mean like Mel was just like he's just he just take 1310 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:02,680 your. I think he takes over even by 1311 01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:04,480 proxy. Even if he wasn't doing like the 1312 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,680 John Cassavetes, like on Rosemary's Baby, like we got to 1313 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,360 do this, we got to do that. He might have just, he might 1314 01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,640 have just taken over by proxy and you, just you. 1315 01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,840 I think so too. Yeah, 'cause I, I was watching 1316 01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:21,360 this interview, Jason Isaacs talking about the making of a 1317 01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:22,840 patriot. It was like from a few years 1318 01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:26,320 ago. And he said, like, this is how 1319 01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:28,480 Mel is on set. He'll just, like, tell you a 1320 01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,240 story, like a really funny story while chain smoking cigarettes. 1321 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:32,640 And they're like, Mel, we need you. 1322 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:36,040 And it was like during the scene where he whips, he's like hacks 1323 01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,400 that guy with the tomahawk. And he just like, he's able to 1324 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,560 just, like, tell this hilarious story. 1325 01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,480 And then he gets into character and break back to tears. 1326 01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:46,960 And then when he says cut and it goes back to the career, he's 1327 01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,440 like, so like what I was saying. And then he like, fights up 1328 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,640 another. So I think it is just like his, 1329 01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:58,640 his, yeah, his, like just through, like his presence and 1330 01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,160 stuff. Yeah, Anyways, that guy Hiram 1331 01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:02,800 Finkelstein I was telling you about. 1332 01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:08,520 Yeah. No, he's, he's, yeah, that guy. 1333 01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,080 I mean, he's, I just find him fascinating. 1334 01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,440 I I listened to his Joe Rogan interview twice. 1335 01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:17,600 I he was incredible. I love how he dodged the theory 1336 01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,439 of evolution question that Joe wanted to earnestly debate him 1337 01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:21,359 on. He's like, don't care. 1338 01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:23,279 He's like, he's like, he just don't care. 1339 01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:27,319 Anyways, go on any, any. And Mel has this like you could 1340 01:08:27,319 --> 01:08:29,640 tell he used to do a lot of drugs because he has that like 1341 01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,120 bright eye look about him when you talk to him. 1342 01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,680 But I love his new look with the with the beard, the kind of like 1343 01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:40,760 castaway look that he does drag it across concrete is a is a, in 1344 01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:45,160 my opinion, just a classic. Let's it's still the that I was. 1345 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,439 I'm forever grateful for S Craig Zola for bringing back like a 1346 01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,720 bunch of cancelled actors in like these three wonderful films 1347 01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:55,240 that he made. And but within the Patriot, it's 1348 01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,560 like, it's like, again, you're like, I can't stress it enough. 1349 01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,920 It feels like you're watching like Jerry Bruckheimer's like 1350 01:08:59,920 --> 01:09:03,120 Pirates of the Caribbean that turns into like Americans, like 1351 01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:06,399 Blood Meridian or something. Yeah, so crazy. 1352 01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,920 The battle, the cannonballs blowing off the guy's leg and 1353 01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:11,399 the guy's head. Yeah, yeah. 1354 01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:15,000 My gosh. I know like that's, that's 1355 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,800 incredible. I wonder if like, I guess like 1356 01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:22,800 I'm now like connecting like the Disney feel to it with like 1357 01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,080 especially like the kids and stuff. 1358 01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:27,640 Yeah. But I wonder if like it, some of 1359 01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:31,760 that is John Williams score that's also feeding into that is 1360 01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:35,120 that that score is like one of his best, I think. 1361 01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:39,279 But it does get sappy, like because John Williams also has 1362 01:09:39,279 --> 01:09:41,399 like a sappy tone to some of his stuff. 1363 01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:45,040 Well, you can't do melodies in scores anymore. 1364 01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,520 It's like, it's like an Antichrist, you know, So that, 1365 01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,520 that. My boy, my boy, Trent Reznor 1366 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:50,880 ruined that. Unfortunately. 1367 01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,640 I love him to death. He did ruin that, although he 1368 01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:56,480 came back with challengers, at least with Challengers. 1369 01:09:56,480 --> 01:09:59,760 He he decided he's doing Tron, the new Tron, which could be 1370 01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:01,760 he's going to have to do something like that. 1371 01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:05,040 Like it can't, it can't just be, it can't just be ambient, you 1372 01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,680 know, like it has to, it has to have some sort of at least 1373 01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,840 rhythmic, technically speaking, has to have like, like some, 1374 01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,160 some tones that can be catchy or something. 1375 01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,720 Cuz I, yeah, the Gone Girl score, I don't think is that 1376 01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:17,080 good. Like everybody always just goes 1377 01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:20,200 like why you won for Gone Girl or Social Network. 1378 01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,560 I'm like, I, it's fine, it's fine. 1379 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,160 I like, I like the big orchestral stuff. 1380 01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,760 I just give me that stuff. Give me, you know, Hitchcock 1381 01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:32,160 movies are so good because Hitchcock's great, because he's 1382 01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:36,680 a pervert and because Bernard Herrmann is just like has 1383 01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,200 incredible side. It's all, it's all great. 1384 01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:42,440 And I'm just like, the maximalism of this movie is just 1385 01:10:42,440 --> 01:10:44,440 so refreshing. And it's like, they gave you 1386 01:10:44,440 --> 01:10:46,600 this much money. You can see every dollar spent, 1387 01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:50,440 Yeah, every dollar spent. I mean, these, I mean, just the 1388 01:10:50,440 --> 01:10:54,600 war scenes, the marching of it. It kind of is Braveheart in a 1389 01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:55,960 way too like. Just the the. 1390 01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,840 Misfits the, the, the, the militia of just kind of like 1391 01:10:59,920 --> 01:11:02,720 farmers and stuff. And I just love that. 1392 01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,560 It's unapologetically like, let's just do Mel Gibson's 1393 01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,320 greatest hits. Let's just do Mel Gibson's 1394 01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,040 greatest hits in a movie. And it works. 1395 01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:13,960 It's it's great. I think, I think even the script 1396 01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:19,680 works by itself too, because I think his character is 1397 01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:23,280 interesting from the bat, You know, it opens with with that 1398 01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,040 awesome quote. I've long feared that my sins 1399 01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:29,400 would come back to haunt me, but the cost is more than I can 1400 01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,840 bear. And like, that sets the tone, 1401 01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,640 like, we're going into some serious shit later. 1402 01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:39,440 Just letting you know right now we're going to get into like, 1403 01:11:39,440 --> 01:11:41,480 Disney ass, you know, plantation stuff. 1404 01:11:41,480 --> 01:11:46,360 But yeah, I think the story just like, everything just feels 1405 01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,520 right. Like, you can you can complain 1406 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:53,360 about the church scene not being historically accurate. 1407 01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:56,320 Who cares? Because that makes the ending 1408 01:11:56,440 --> 01:12:00,520 fight scene that much more like emotionally satisfying. 1409 01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,440 You want to and that traitor, that fucking traitor that sold 1410 01:12:04,440 --> 01:12:07,440 everybody out. Oh my God, like you want to jump 1411 01:12:07,440 --> 01:12:10,800 out the screen and kill him and Jason Isaacs, the turncoat you 1412 01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:12,640 want? You want to do it and shout out 1413 01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,800 to the French guy too. Love the French guy. 1414 01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,760 Absolutely. I he, he's, I I love the whole 1415 01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:21,760 like for some reason I thought this movie was post 911, but it 1416 01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:22,440 wasn't. It was. 1417 01:12:22,440 --> 01:12:22,920 It was. It was. 1418 01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:27,720 Right, because it feels very unify against the common enemy, 1419 01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:29,680 like, oh, you're a slave. I don't care, dude. 1420 01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:32,680 You're my mad Donald Logue. Like, it's an honor to serve 1421 01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,560 next to you. I kind of felt like they felt 1422 01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,720 very post 9/11 propaganda in a way. 1423 01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,920 I long for that, to be honest. Like, like compared to what we 1424 01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,800 get now. But yeah, I like long for that. 1425 01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:45,720 But it felt like that I was like, wow, this was just like, 1426 01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:50,520 kind of like late 90s when it was filmed, like late 90s, just 1427 01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,000 like multiculturalism, like, let's just have fun. 1428 01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:54,520 We have a nation now and it's great. 1429 01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,280 Yeah. Like it was just, I, I don't 1430 01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:58,600 know. And people pretend like, oh, 1431 01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:00,440 that was a facade. I was like, I don't know, to me 1432 01:13:00,440 --> 01:13:03,680 as a kid, it wasn't, it felt like I wasn't thinking about 1433 01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,960 racism or any like crazy stuff like that at the time. 1434 01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,840 And if it was, it was framed to you as like, we solved a lot of 1435 01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,000 stuff, guys. Yes, our country's history has 1436 01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,200 some, some, some things with it that maybe you can. 1437 01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,360 But like we're, we're, we're now we're one world, like we're 1438 01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:19,920 together, you know, and all that stuff. 1439 01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,280 And now it's just like, actually, everything you've been 1440 01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,440 told is a lie. And this is how we got to the 1441 01:13:24,440 --> 01:13:25,760 moon. I'm still stuck on Hidden 1442 01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:29,600 Figures. But yeah, I just just I, I, I 1443 01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,720 love that. And like, I man, I, I can, I 1444 01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:34,280 literally want to watch this movie again. 1445 01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,040 And definitely on that scene, the hatchet scene. 1446 01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:39,400 I could watch that just in my dad's a big movie scene on 1447 01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,080 YouTube guy. And my dad, my dad loves just 1448 01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:45,880 watching scenes from like 7 on YouTube or like something like 1449 01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:47,080 this. He loves doing that. 1450 01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,480 I would do that with the hatchet scene, man, because it, it's, 1451 01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,880 it's too sick. Even the other one too, the one 1452 01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:56,840 where they sneak up on the, the little British carriage things 1453 01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:00,000 and they think there's like 6 dudes and then they all pop out 1454 01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,400 like a clown car. They all pop out and then 1455 01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:06,040 everybody comes from the hills. It's like it's I, it's a, it's a 1456 01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,040 feeling I don't get anymore in film. 1457 01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:11,000 I, I like, I'm just like, Oh yeah, you know, like, and it's 1458 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,040 not just jump scare horror, you know what I mean? 1459 01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,360 But it's actual dread. It's like, Oh my gosh, like 1460 01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,240 they're going to lose more people because I've already seen 1461 01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,440 a kid die. So there's nobody's off limits 1462 01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,960 and Mel Gibson dies in half the movies he's in. 1463 01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,640 So you just don't know. Yeah, yeah. 1464 01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:28,120 Like, literally. He like rewatching it last 1465 01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:32,240 night, I I knew it was coming. Like, I, I know this movie very 1466 01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:34,680 well, but it's like, I can't believe they killed off Heath 1467 01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:38,880 Ledger like that after burning his wife alive and his entire 1468 01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:41,600 family. And then earlier with like 1469 01:14:42,440 --> 01:14:45,400 Thomas, the kid that gets shot in the back. 1470 01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:50,880 Yeah, like that's insane. And like, yeah, I think these 1471 01:14:51,440 --> 01:14:54,360 these types of movies are made with earnesty that it I just 1472 01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:57,320 don't think exists in movies anymore. 1473 01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:59,840 And I don't know if that's like a millennial problem. 1474 01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,600 Like I don't, I feel like millennials just like don't know 1475 01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:07,000 how to be earnest with their writing or their art or 1476 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,440 anything. But like, you don't even like 1477 01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:13,000 back then, you don't have to think about being earnest with 1478 01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,040 what you're writing. You're just like writing it, you 1479 01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:18,640 know? Like it's this is, this is what 1480 01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,120 we're doing. We're not going to comment on 1481 01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:22,080 it. Like, I don't know. 1482 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,960 Yeah, no, that's the the C word you just said right there. 1483 01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:26,480 I think is exactly the millennial problem. 1484 01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:30,280 We are, and I say this, I've as a guy who comments on things. 1485 01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:35,280 We are commentary just obsessed. Everything is a commentary. 1486 01:15:35,480 --> 01:15:37,200 Everything is this, everything is that. 1487 01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:38,920 Everything is a comment, blah, blah, blah. 1488 01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,080 Like we just we wouldn't make this movie. 1489 01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:44,280 We wouldn't. Well, for one, millennials, we 1490 01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:47,320 have lived experience, but like, we feel the need to like listen 1491 01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:49,040 to like other people's lived experience. 1492 01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,400 We want to tell other people's stories like we want to do. 1493 01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:55,560 We just, I don't know, I have a tough time with our generation 1494 01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:57,320 right now. It's just been like, it's just, 1495 01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:01,720 I don't know, like they cry all the time, which yes, there are 1496 01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:03,800 legit problems that have happened to the millennial 1497 01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:07,480 generation, but like you kind of like self stunt ourselves a 1498 01:16:07,480 --> 01:16:12,160 little bit and like, like don't grow up and, and, and understand 1499 01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,320 that there are consequences to things and stuff. 1500 01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,720 And, and just like you can tell, like the like you said, there's 1501 01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:21,720 an earnesty and like I even some of my favorite people, I some of 1502 01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,360 my favorite comedians, some of my favorite personalities or 1503 01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,600 something. I'm like, you're fucking 37. 1504 01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:27,840 Drop the irony. Right. 1505 01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:30,240 Yeah. Just like, please stop, like and 1506 01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:31,680 they'll, they'll speak in earnest. 1507 01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,160 They'll speak in earnest, like, and you'll be like, wow, that 1508 01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:35,720 was great. And they're like, oh, and they 1509 01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:39,000 apologize for it sometimes. And I'm just like, I'm tired of 1510 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,360 these ironic movies. I'm tired of fucking people just 1511 01:16:42,440 --> 01:16:44,680 break. I saw this horror movie oh God I 1512 01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,760 can't even remember. It was an Irish horror movie 1513 01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,400 where this it had a very good concept. 1514 01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:53,680 It was a woman. It was like a, It was a woman, 1515 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:57,720 very weird, like Tilda Swinton, greyhound looking woman who had 1516 01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:01,200 a like this wooden doll in the house and it was sitting on a 1517 01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:02,920 chair and the doll had its mouth open. 1518 01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,640 It was a big wooden carved out like statue you would see on 1519 01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,800 like a park bench or something. And it had its mouth carved open 1520 01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:10,520 and stuff. And people would go, what the 1521 01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,480 fuck is that in the room? People would go, what is that? 1522 01:17:12,480 --> 01:17:15,080 And she's just like, she was just this person and she's 1523 01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,240 blind, right? So she's like, what, what's 1524 01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,920 what, you know, And it was this thing that arrived and it was 1525 01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:21,840 this, she was, she was just haunting these people. 1526 01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:25,200 And you know, the twist is she they they had her sister killed. 1527 01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:27,400 So she was like, I'm a blind woman. 1528 01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:28,920 I need help. And then all this weird shit 1529 01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:30,040 starts arriving into their house. 1530 01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:31,640 The end of the movie is like this. 1531 01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,680 All of a sudden, this very ironic, like 90s song, I 1532 01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:36,920 believe, starts playing. And then it just ruins the 1533 01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:40,200 entire tone of the movie. And and I was just like, you 1534 01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:45,640 know, I know Luca Guada, he knows not a not a millennial, 1535 01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,960 but he made a movie called queer, which I thought was quite 1536 01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:50,520 interesting. I was like, I was like, this is 1537 01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:54,640 this is interesting. Yet we're playing in 50s, Panama 1538 01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:58,560 hat 50s like heroin, like paradise, gay heroin, paradise. 1539 01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:03,080 We're playing Nirvana, we're playing Prince songs. 1540 01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:07,280 And it's just like, what are we? They're trying to catch you off 1541 01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:08,920 guard more than they're trying to entertain you. 1542 01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,600 And it pisses me the fuck off about millennial people. 1543 01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:15,840 I think, yeah, I think James Gunn ruined all that for us. 1544 01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:19,920 Like just putting like hit soundtracks it like needle. 1545 01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,840 It's the needle drop thing, which I can't stand anymore. 1546 01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:29,880 It's like picking not an obscure seven 70s song, but like not one 1547 01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:31,400 that you would know right off the bat. 1548 01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,560 And then he just drops it on Guardians of the Galaxy. 1549 01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:39,000 And now, like every every movie since then is just has to have a 1550 01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,600 needle drop scene. Gwen Tarantino kind of did it 1551 01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:46,440 too, but his felt more organic in that regard. 1552 01:18:46,440 --> 01:18:48,160 But I don't know, I think you're right. 1553 01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:54,440 Like like like going back to the Patriot, like I was trying to 1554 01:18:54,440 --> 01:19:00,160 think of like, for one, like they're like, if you did make 1555 01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:03,480 this today and you have the slaves on the plantation and you 1556 01:19:03,480 --> 01:19:06,720 have that line of saying like, we're not slaves, we're 1557 01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:08,600 freedmen. We work here willingly. 1558 01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:14,440 Like even me watching that now, I'm like, that's a stretch. 1559 01:19:14,440 --> 01:19:18,240 But also like, if it was made today, that line wouldn't exist 1560 01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:23,760 or that character like would probably be elevated to a point 1561 01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:28,080 where it's like it'd have to like over shadow, like Mel 1562 01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,320 Gibson's character or something like that. 1563 01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,280 Like right? You'd have to comment on it and 1564 01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:34,880 you'd have to make a big deal about it. 1565 01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:38,600 But this movie is, it kind of does like sweep it under the 1566 01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:40,880 rug, but it does it in a way where it's like, this is not 1567 01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:44,760 really what this movie's about. It's about it's a revenge movie 1568 01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,680 with Mel Goodson. Exactly, exactly. 1569 01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:50,000 And guess what? American flag at the end, Yeah, 1570 01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:51,600 all of it's there. It's, it's, it's, it's 1571 01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:53,080 refreshing. You know, at the time you don't 1572 01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:54,840 appreciate stuff like that because it's just movies are 1573 01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:56,360 like that. And it just, that's what it's 1574 01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,200 what happens. But yeah, I, the slave thing I 1575 01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,560 did. I, I we're in a weird spot ever 1576 01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:04,920 since 12 Years a Slave. How, like, you can if you're a 1577 01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:08,560 white guy making a film. You just can't touch the subject 1578 01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:12,440 whatsoever, not from a positive way or from a real, you know, 1579 01:20:12,440 --> 01:20:14,200 whatever you think is the realistic way. 1580 01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,920 I, I Django was also another one like that, though that I think 1581 01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:21,080 that's a different kind of movie than than 12 Years a Slave. 1582 01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:24,480 It's not meant to be like a historical drama, but the but 1583 01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,840 like you're not going to do, you're not going to, you're not 1584 01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,800 going to touch those anymore. But it's like, it's weird 1585 01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,360 because like then you see movies like, you know, Ryan, what Ryan 1586 01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:34,600 Coogler does, which I think he's, I think that guy's a 1587 01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:36,400 talented guy that makes bad movies. 1588 01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:40,440 Interesting, I love Creed but I don't Creed is. 1589 01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:41,280 Good creed is. Good. 1590 01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:44,200 I love Creed because I love Stallone, obviously. 1591 01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:47,200 No, and it's a good movie. I think Creed is a good like 1592 01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,600 extension of like the Rock. I hate this term, but like the 1593 01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:53,080 Rocky universe, I think it's like a pretty solid like I don't 1594 01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:55,560 know if it's like quote UN quote Canon, but like it it, it feels 1595 01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:57,000 like I'm like, no, that was cool. 1596 01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:58,240 I think what we saw it in theatre. 1597 01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:01,480 I was like, this is this is good, you know, and and and all 1598 01:21:01,480 --> 01:21:03,360 that. I just like this sinners thing 1599 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,560 I'm looking at now. I'm like really 99% Rotten 1600 01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:10,080 Tomatoes? Yeah, a little I that's another 1601 01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,400 problem. I'm interested in seeing that 1602 01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,680 just because of visually it looks good. 1603 01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:18,360 Like that would be a movie that I'd like to see an IMAX. 1604 01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:22,080 I'm sure it's gonna make me try to hate myself by the end. 1605 01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:26,280 Which again, do it artful. If you're gonna make me think 1606 01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:29,240 about something like don't be heavy-handed with it. 1607 01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:33,560 Like make a movie that takes me for a ride, you know what I'm 1608 01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:35,320 saying? And then the reveal at the end 1609 01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:39,400 is like something I would see like during 2020 locked in my 1610 01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:41,720 house about how I'm evil, you know what I mean? 1611 01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:46,160 Like, that's like, you're right. Like, and, and I, I think, like 1612 01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:48,640 I said, this is a talented guy. He's a Bay Area guy, football 1613 01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:50,000 player. Like I, I was like, I like his 1614 01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:53,040 story and everything. And I feel like, for one, he's 1615 01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:54,560 probably just rolling in money right now. 1616 01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:56,720 So I can't really, you know, what he's doing makes money, 1617 01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:58,000 especially Black Panther and stuff. 1618 01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:03,440 But I just man, it is like it, it just I feel like I can I can 1619 01:22:03,440 --> 01:22:06,840 watch it and I go you know what I think I know who the villain 1620 01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:09,520 is in this and get or if it's or if it's Jordan Peele. 1621 01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:11,600 I think I know what the entity is, right. 1622 01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:16,560 I know, you know, yeah, yeah, You know, it's just I I think I 1623 01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,160 know. And and then you, you see it, 1624 01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,160 you know, the rotten tomato thing that the, the pre like the 1625 01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:24,160 rotten tomato rating already comes out. 1626 01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:27,120 So then everybody's got that in their mind that this movie's 1627 01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:28,680 about this. Therefore it's automatically 1628 01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:31,480 good because it's a commentary on this, this issue that could 1629 01:22:31,480 --> 01:22:35,040 never be bad if it's done the right way, then it's got 99%. 1630 01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:36,920 So you're going against this consensus. 1631 01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:39,560 If you don't like it, you're being a contrarian, people say. 1632 01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:42,440 And I hate it. I hate the whole echo system of 1633 01:22:42,440 --> 01:22:44,640 film right now. Yeah, I have to. 1634 01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:50,280 I'm I'm probably going to see that next week, but for those 1635 01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:54,080 type of movies, I have to wait like almost years until that 1636 01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:58,040 hype kind of dies down. I still haven't seen everywhere, 1637 01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,000 Everything Everywhere all at once. 1638 01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,000 I don't think I will at this point, but it's like that hype 1639 01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,880 was like unbearable for me to like endure. 1640 01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:08,880 I was like, I'm, I'm good. I'm gonna wait this one out. 1641 01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:12,160 That's The thing is the person telling you is like they're 1642 01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:14,920 like, they're like in your face with like bloodshot eyes, like 1643 01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:18,280 you need to see I'm like you like they think like I need to 1644 01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:19,800 fix something about myself by seeing. 1645 01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:22,760 It's like that's, that's not why I go to the movies, right? 1646 01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:26,600 I'm like, it's not why I go. And and I'm even tired of the 1647 01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,720 other way around. I'm tired of the of the like 1648 01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:33,400 anti, like the heavy-handed, like this is my anti cancel 1649 01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:36,720 culture movie. I'm like sure, like I get it for 1650 01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:39,320 a while you kind of needed to hit people over the head with 1651 01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:42,480 that because it had gotten way too far in One Direction. 1652 01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:46,840 But my problem is, is like when people acknowledge the boogeyman 1653 01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:49,760 in the room that that makes it win. 1654 01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:53,560 And what I love is that people who can just like, ignore the 1655 01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:55,040 rules. I think Mike White does this 1656 01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,000 right now perfectly. He just ignores the rules. 1657 01:23:57,200 --> 01:24:01,160 He just does what he does. He's not saying, oh, and I was, 1658 01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:04,720 I wanted that character to be a Lib tard, you know, or something 1659 01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:06,360 like that. He just does it. 1660 01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,040 And if you get it, if you're in on the it's entertaining on a 1661 01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,840 surface level, But if you're also are in on the joke a little 1662 01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:15,120 bit or in on the satire, it has this extra level to it. 1663 01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:20,000 And I, I just, I'm sick of like the heavy handedness of like 1664 01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,120 these films. And like, again, you can be 1665 01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:24,480 heavy-handed if you're fucking coming out of planes like 1666 01:24:24,480 --> 01:24:25,800 Stallone and doing all this stuff. 1667 01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,400 They're not doing that though. They're not doing that. 1668 01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:31,400 Like it's like I watch these movies of like AI Tom Hanks, 1669 01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,680 like aging in a house. Did that movie ever come out? 1670 01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,400 All I heard about from the trailer was look at this movie 1671 01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:38,840 of like Tom Hanks and I forget who the actress was and they're 1672 01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:41,320 like aging and like AI or something. 1673 01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:42,600 I don't even know what that movie was. 1674 01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:45,760 I don't, I never heard about it. We're in such a trailer economy 1675 01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:47,000 now that it really bothers. Me. 1676 01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:49,400 I think I haven't heard of that one. 1677 01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:50,920 You saw I. Saw that. 1678 01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:52,840 Yeah, I think. You saw it. 1679 01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:56,680 You think you saw it? If it's the one, I saw a movie 1680 01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,760 with an Adrian Tom Hanks like I. It. 1681 01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:02,320 Was it was horrible? Yeah, it was. 1682 01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:05,520 Yeah, it's called. Fairy here. 1683 01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:08,240 There you go. Yeah, yeah, it was weird. 1684 01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,480 No, I'm thinking about auto auto Otto. 1685 01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:16,080 No, that's the one I'm talking about is him where it's like 50s 1686 01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,080 or 60s like in the house and they're like aging and they're 1687 01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,600 like commenting on like the technology and stuff. 1688 01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:23,880 I'm just like, I don't care about that at all. 1689 01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:26,840 And then nobody does, though. That's The thing is nobody does, 1690 01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:30,880 but people have to get hyped about current things so much 1691 01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,720 that they like the trailer comes out like, I'm going to go see 1692 01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:35,080 the Wes Anderson movie. You know why? 1693 01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:36,960 Because I know exactly what Wes Anderson's going to do. 1694 01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,760 It's not going to blow my mind, but I know exactly what he's 1695 01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,400 going to do. And it's one thing that only he 1696 01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:45,600 does really, like only he does. And I, I get it when people say 1697 01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:47,920 they don't like him. I'll never defend him to anybody 1698 01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,800 who doesn't like him, but I'm just like, I saw people freaking 1699 01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:52,600 out over a trailer. Oh, he's doing the same thing 1700 01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:55,760 over and over again. Same with Paul Thomas Anderson's 1701 01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:58,480 new movie, which is an adaptation of of a Thomas 1702 01:25:58,480 --> 01:26:01,800 Pynchon novel, which it looks like a faith pretty faithful 1703 01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:04,240 adaptation of a Thomas Finch and novel which he's already done 1704 01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:06,880 with Inherent Vice and a little bit with The Master. 1705 01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:11,120 And I, I was just like, man, people just react to trailers 1706 01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:14,040 and then second trailers come out and then third trailers come 1707 01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:15,800 out and I'm like, have I seen the movie already? 1708 01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,640 Yeah, and then the trailer trailer comes out before I all 1709 01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,160 the. Extended 1 during the the Chiefs 1710 01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:24,120 game. You're like, all right, man. 1711 01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:26,240 Like I guess I saw every part of this movie. 1712 01:26:26,480 --> 01:26:28,680 They even make new trailers for old Movies Now. 1713 01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:31,120 You know, they do like rent. Oh yeah, it's crazy. 1714 01:26:31,480 --> 01:26:34,800 I trailers and trailers and trailers all over the place. 1715 01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:38,040 But yeah, to the Patriot, though, Heath Ledger, it's it is 1716 01:26:38,480 --> 01:26:41,480 it is interesting though, 'cause you Heath Ledger is like a a ROM 1717 01:26:41,480 --> 01:26:43,960 com star around this time. He's not a joker. 1718 01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:47,520 That was his last thing. He's not the joke, but because I 1719 01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,160 remember it was such, this ROM com, pretty boys doing the 1720 01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,280 Joker. It was such a thing and he's 1721 01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:53,720 dead. Actually, I think the movie came 1722 01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:55,840 out after he died, but the yeah, they. 1723 01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:57,960 Didn't even finish editing in it. 1724 01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,160 Yeah, I thought, yeah, I thought he was dead. 1725 01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:04,280 Yeah, for something. But this movie, it was he was 1726 01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:06,200 doing like 10 things I hate about you, I think. 1727 01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:07,440 Was that was that the movie he did? 1728 01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:09,720 I think it was. I think he was in that and he 1729 01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:12,760 was A Knight's Tale I think was right around that time too. 1730 01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,760 That's another movie with some. It's a good movie. 1731 01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:19,520 I liked it, but I I remember rewatching it randomly and I'm 1732 01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:22,320 like, is this where the fucking putting contemporary music and 1733 01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:26,560 like medieval time shit started? Like I was like, this is so 1734 01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:29,920 strange. It is that was good, but he's he 1735 01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:33,520 gives like a like again, he him and his love interest in here. 1736 01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:37,720 Both don't have the best fate like it's they have such a like 1737 01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:40,240 they stick out like sore thumbs in a period piece, but none of 1738 01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:41,640 it matters. That's what I love about it. 1739 01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:44,040 It's like none of it matters. It's like when you watch a Roman 1740 01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,280 Polanski movie. When I did a Roman Polanski deep 1741 01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:49,280 dive, he does not give a shit about everyone having the same 1742 01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:51,360 accent. He literally does not care. 1743 01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,160 There's movies in France where it takes place in France, you 1744 01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:56,360 see like the Eiffel Tower in the background and it's just like an 1745 01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:59,480 A guy from New York going, hey, so you want an apartment or 1746 01:27:59,480 --> 01:28:00,840 what? Yeah, you know, And it's just 1747 01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:03,240 like, they don't care. And I'm like, I love when 1748 01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:04,920 people. That's the problem with like 1749 01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:08,360 modern film now is you have way too many fact checkers, you 1750 01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:11,880 know, like it's it's just tough. Like, yeah, I feel, I do feel 1751 01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:14,240 for people trying to create stuff right now, like, because 1752 01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:16,720 you can't ignore it. I check the comments when I post 1753 01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:19,360 an episode. I'm not a guy that just unplugs. 1754 01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:21,480 Like you are a slave to an audience in a way. 1755 01:28:21,480 --> 01:28:25,240 But yeah, your audience is like there's like 1,000,000 Pauline 1756 01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:30,120 Kales now, but none of them know shit, you know, like it sucks. 1757 01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:36,600 It sucks. Yeah, the micromanaging like on 1758 01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:42,000 set and stuff is like I, I can't imagine like Tarantino working 1759 01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:44,400 like this or PTA working like this. 1760 01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:48,160 Like I can't. Like I've never, like I've never 1761 01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:52,080 been on like a set where it's like either it's like kind of my 1762 01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:55,240 own or like even someone else's where it's like we're all 1763 01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:56,800 focused on making this one thing. 1764 01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:00,640 Everyone is like just on the phone all half the time and 1765 01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:04,480 like, would this really happen? Or like, hey, there's this thing 1766 01:29:04,480 --> 01:29:07,920 in the shot that doesn't make, you know, it's just like I like 1767 01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:11,240 I'm big picture guy. Like let's let's get the big 1768 01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:14,000 picture because I think that's kind of what the details do 1769 01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,400 matter, but you hire the right peoples to look out for those 1770 01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:18,880 details. But yeah, I don't know. 1771 01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:22,120 It's everything. Would you yell? 1772 01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:24,240 Would you, would you freak out on somebody on set? 1773 01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:26,200 Like like, like, wait, wait. Because like for me, I would 1774 01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:28,200 just be like, would this happen? Well, I know something that 1775 01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:31,640 happens. You're fired that though, huh? 1776 01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:35,680 Yeah. It's no, I, I couldn't do that. 1777 01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:41,960 Like I'm when I'm like stressed for time, I wouldn't fire 1778 01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:45,520 somebody, but I would definitely like try to take care of the 1779 01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:48,320 situation. But I'm, I'm just solely focused 1780 01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:52,640 on like getting, getting what I need and like what I want. 1781 01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:56,520 Like, yeah, in time, in the time that I have, which is like very 1782 01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:58,640 little. So it's like everything is like 1783 01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:02,840 kind of you get tunnel vision, I think especially like on an 1784 01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:06,800 indie level. Yeah, no outbursts yet, but like 1785 01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:11,440 maybe tense such situations so. Hell yeah, dude. 1786 01:30:11,440 --> 01:30:15,120 That's what I mean. I'm like, dude, I would almost. 1787 01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:18,240 What's weird about that is I try to think of either side. 1788 01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:22,000 If I was working for somebody, I would also like, I would expect 1789 01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:24,800 tense moments like cuz I, I would, they would show that you 1790 01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:26,600 give a shit. Like a lot of times, you know, 1791 01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:29,200 like, like being these, like it's I, you know, sports. 1792 01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:31,400 I grew up playing sports. Like your coach yelling at you 1793 01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:33,600 is just as effective as him giving you the high 5. 1794 01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:36,360 You know, it's, it's in fact more and you hate it at the 1795 01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:37,600 time. You might go home like, damn, 1796 01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:40,240 that guy's a fucking Dick. But then, you know, you're 1797 01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:42,720 sleeping at night and you're like, Nah, he was right, you 1798 01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:44,120 know, or something, something like that. 1799 01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:48,000 I, I, dude, there's just way too much stuff happening. 1800 01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:51,640 I, I, I'm, you're going, you're doing the right thing as far as 1801 01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:55,280 doing it your own way. Sure, hopefully it works out. 1802 01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:57,720 I, I mean, we'll do our best because I mean, we'll do our 1803 01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:01,080 best and then definitely hit the podcast circuit, promote it. 1804 01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:05,080 I definitely want to promote like people actually just, I'm 1805 01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:07,760 tired of commentaries and like takes, takes, takes, takes, 1806 01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:09,600 takes and more. So like, what are you working 1807 01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:10,520 on? Are you guys working on 1808 01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:11,920 anything? Because the way you beat stuff 1809 01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:15,200 is by putting out stuff that sadly, people will have to copy. 1810 01:31:15,480 --> 01:31:19,120 But putting out a template is what you're doing a lot of times 1811 01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:21,200 during this time where everybody's, everybody 1812 01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:26,600 understands that, like, these are a lot of these novels, film, 1813 01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:29,440 TV, even to an extent. It's kind of like not what it 1814 01:31:29,440 --> 01:31:31,720 used to be. Even people who are like, love 1815 01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:33,880 the current thing. They under, they deep down, they 1816 01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:35,720 know this shit should be better than it really is. 1817 01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:38,640 So I'm like, yeah, it's important to like highlight 1818 01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:40,920 those people, you know, and just who's doing the right thing, 1819 01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:43,560 who's who's doing something interesting, who's doing this, 1820 01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:45,120 who's doing that. You know, it's like so. 1821 01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:50,200 Well, yeah, everybody make sure this will be out definitely with 1822 01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:53,680 some time for you guys to donate to Knuckles. 1823 01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:56,520 It'll be in the in the description of the episode to 1824 01:31:56,520 --> 01:31:58,720 get just whatever you can guys, whatever you can. 1825 01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:03,480 I gave $1,000,000 but don't even like guys don't even do not. 1826 01:32:03,480 --> 01:32:05,160 Yeah, I'm funded. I'm already funded. 1827 01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:08,640 Yeah, yeah, Yeah. I was like, yeah, just yeah, you 1828 01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:10,920 just funneled that to the vacation fund, you know, after 1829 01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:12,520 the film. Yeah, I need. 1830 01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:14,600 More I need more. Yeah, yeah. 1831 01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:16,760 No, that's fine. Next installment we're a monthly 1832 01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:19,200 paying kind of thing yeah, I signed up for the monthly plan. 1833 01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:21,240 That's a brag. But no guys, don't, you know, 1834 01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:24,040 just just whatever helps you know I understand what it is 1835 01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:27,280 like how it is you just want to or even just like signal boost 1836 01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:29,520 it a little bit just like show it to a couple people or 1837 01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:34,040 something and and yeah, I mean any anything else you I mean, 1838 01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:36,680 you said MK, I need to watch your MK Ultra movie. 1839 01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:37,960 What? That's on YouTube. 1840 01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:41,280 Yeah, just type in MK Ultra violence. 1841 01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:44,640 OK, because I can't just type in MK Ultra because that I have a 1842 01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:45,920 lot of other things I've typed in. 1843 01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:47,200 Oh, sure, we need that. Yeah. 1844 01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:49,360 So yeah, yeah, MK Ultra violence. 1845 01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:50,720 OK, cool. Yeah, we definitely need to 1846 01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:53,320 check that out. Yeah, everybody, I highly 1847 01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:55,600 recommend Jack, by the way, guys, that's a that's a great 1848 01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:56,680 short. Thank you. 1849 01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:59,480 And and yeah, best of luck to the knuckles. 1850 01:32:59,480 --> 01:33:01,920 And on that note, guys, everybody have a safe week. 1851 01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:02,920 We'll catch you guys next.