Man I like it gives me a warning.
Yes yeah yeah yeah. Price pops up on the screen to
the right? Oh yeah I click something.
I didn't know that until I was on the other side of it for
another show and I was like, what the fuck?
Like because you can't sneak up on anybody anymore, which I
think is a Jeffrey toobin thing. When he was jacking off, that's
my thing. Like he was like, dude, if there
could have just been a screen that told me, this was being
recorded. Hey, you know, and tubing was
our martyr he needed to. Yeah.
He died for our sins. Yeah.
And so, Did everybody. Did everyone know?
We don't talk about that now. Do what do we think of?
What do you think this whole vaccine?
Mandate, guys, will slav, love. It's love loves it.
He died, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is, this is where I'll drop my, this is where I'll drop my
venue my venmo and yeah, go fund me.
Come on, guys. Please, I'm actually recording
this from under a freeway overpass, right?
Yeah, yeah. Well Yeah, you know, you and you
just have to change it. You just have to say Top
surgery, AKA employment. Yeah.
And he called on all, all all, all lie to State, Medicaid and
say that I'm getting Top surgery so that I can actually just like
to buy myself something to eat. Yeah, like a roof over my head.
Yeah, that's I mean, that's probably what's happening half
the time, be real, but it is 6. We be in the mix with that rare
candy, paint job. Job on our way.
I need full for the kids money for the rent.
Fuck. I like down baby.
I can't do that shit. Now I'll never vote because I'm
fucking broke either way. I know the police Ain't Gon
leave me alone on a Plane. By the physically, Rockne crypto
told me, I should bring a Glock with me.
So I packed up my piece and I'm sliding slide because we might
get caught up in a right little finger, drunk little finger
biting. Fuck I love fucking right as you
ride to see those rocket can do politics, baby.
We just talk The birds to the breaks.
We be in the mix with a rare candy.
Paint job on a with who you it. So slob is no longer employed.
Okay, as they feel safe to say this because you keep posted on
Twitter the other day which would you I guess I'll just hand
you the floor. What happened, man?
Yeah. Yeah.
So y'all will thread, will thread the needle here?
Of not giving too much information because I'm yeah,
I'm like a sued online, right? But yeah, yeah.
So well I guess I'll preface it basically with the chronology of
events that I had basically, right?
So you know, as we all know Joe Biden makes his basically, you
know, announcement talking about mandating vaccinations for all
employees of companies, 100 employees or higher.
This like is just like an announcement.
Like it doesn't exist as our legal thing.
And so in the end in that way, I think that like my experience
is, is it kind of Dove in an ironic way kind of the best
example of the quote-unquote Mandate.
I worked for a small company like, well below 100 employees,
and Seattle, the city of Seattle.
You might heard of it, lovely lady by the name of Jenny.
Durkin is the is the mayor right now, Dirk and donuts?
Yep, Derek and donuts dead, I think are Ken Is what the
terrorists, and in a team, America said, you can darken.
Yeah, lovely lady. She looks like Skeletor, like,
basically announces. If you want to, if you want to
go into a restaurant, a gym, it basically any place that isn't a
fucking, you know, grocery store.
You need if you need to show proof of vaccinations to get
into any of these places, right? Yeah, yeah, and that's coming
down the pike. I think, I think, within a week
I could be wrong. Don't quote me on that.
Yeah. So and as far as I'm concerned,
this entire story. Basically, just like brings the
Seattle chapter of my life to a close.
So it's not my fucking yeah, they didn't give you a choice,
did they? Yeah, it's not my fucking
business anymore. Yeah.
In any case, my boss, basically decided, They were going to
that, he was going to implement basically the same thing.
But for all employees and I was told this like a few weeks ago
and yeah I mean what did you say?
I mean how how epic was it was? The was the man as it's.
Are we talking half-baked Scarface?
All right, no, no, it was, it was pretty much.
It was pretty much pretty pretty.
Be stoic pretty minimal just I just walked out.
Basically, what happens a few weeks ago.
My boss came to me, separately and tol told me the news Ryan.
And, and to, which I said, you know, he's all, you know, I
don't know, I don't know what your status is.
It's funny how like it's funny how it's, all right, - yeah,
yeah, no, no, exact, it all all of this stuff.
Kind of like it all kind of. It sounds like a different
language. I don't know what your status
is. It's like, it's like my, like,
covid identity. What I identify as like, not
covid. Pronouns, we're watching the are
HR speak evolved in real time, for a new flame.
That's never existed before Emma.
Yeah, exactly. I have ai ai.
My identity is not forcefully sterilized by Pfizer, but like
so, So, so I say like, yeah, I mean, you know, I'm going to
just, you know, pursue a religious exemption and I
basically, which I guess, I mean, you guys already know and
so, you know, I actually, I was pretty unbothered to be totally
honest. Yeah, it gets a lot more
comfortable. When you just kind of realize
like, hey, if you fire me under these conditions, I mean, you're
breaking the Off. And so like, fuck you.
Right? Right now.
Of course, the really the kind of issue that you run into there
is basically just like whether or not your your employer wants
to be like, okay. Well I mean I'm you know, where
I know what you fucking pay check.
Is I know where your money is coming from.
I'm gonna call your bluff and you're just not going to take me
to court. You can always have somebody.
Basically you know, exploit, somebody's class position
Mission and just fuck them legally anyway sorry I'm being a
little long-winded here. No no but in any case Riding
High totally fine you know a few days ago get an email basically
confirming everything right me and a couple people I know had
or a couple people that I knew had already reached out and
basically just like given management information of just
like, hey, like I'm going to be sick.
During a religious exemption. This is the ins and outs of
that. And so in this announcement
email, basically, zero attention paid to any of that stuff that
had been brought to their attention.
Basically, just skimming over all of it, which basically
speaks volumes. And, you know, any case I, you
know, went to work just, you know, fucking whatever, right?
I'm just I'm still probably going to get the exemption, I
don't really give a shit. And then, yeah, I mean, I'm just
got about like, halfway through the workday and co-workers, just
being kind of being kind of, kind of.
I'm getting a little bit of the silent treatment right on the
leper. Now, right?
And, and I gotta say, boys, really the thing that that
really did kind of Did really kind of break me honestly, is it
kind of just got stuck in my head of just whatever the
opposite of solidarity is is basically what I was you know
standing in the room with. And I'm just realizing like look
like my ability to pay my fucking bills and to feed myself
is actively being threatened by you fucking slugs.
Yeah. And even if you caved in right,
even if you gave them like, I'm gonna get the shot.
Like, I always thought about that too.
In my head because I'm hey everybody who listens to the
show. Knows that we're pretty staunch
on our take like of really never getting this shit.
But like in my head I was like, okay but what if I did like what
would be the case I couldn't live with myself at that
company, knowing that my company made me get a fucking shot.
Like exactly, I've liked this place.
I don't want to do anything for you.
I don't want to pick up any overtime, I will not work
Saturday, I don't want to do any of this shit because you didn't
even have my back when something to stop the goddamn flu, dude,
from entering my body and when and you know, we have a lot, we
have a lot of fun backs people. At my place but it's so it'll
get interesting pretty soon. I think but like, come on man.
Like when I'm telling people I'm like, why do you want?
I do understand some people have kids, right?
Some people have kids, some people have things to worry
about where you know, it isn't just their body.
They're going to be worried about, they're worried about
having an income and stuff. So, I have to preface this by
saying if you have kids, like, do whatever you do have to do to
feed them because I'm never going to tell you to be
homeless. And yeah our stances.
That's always been our stance. Yes.
On the shelves like it's there's no judgments and so people are
putting between And a hard place, but exhaust, your
options. Exhaust, your options.
There's got that. The supply chain is fucked right
now. I don't think anybody realizes
this right now. Like it's fucked and it will so
yeah, they're good. Well, so here's a so here's a,
an interesting thing about all of this.
Well, I just and just to bring the actual story itself to a
close, basically, I just like, I actually literally was, I had
been dming sigh that very morning actually, as a matter of
fact, and was just like, bro, I think I'm going to quit my
fucking Good job today. It's the guy you go to when you
start feeling that pressure because he's so at not a normal
guy. And I mean this in the nicest
way that like where you're just, he'll just be like, that's gay.
Why would you do that? Like you know like where were
you thinking about? Getting the vaccine you like
yeah he's right what the fuck like?
Yeah. Like you snap out of the real
world element and use it. You guy consider you to the
foremost Auntie backs podcast in this entire moment.
So nice. You are now listening to the
anti-vaxxers warrior. That's right.
And And so I basically like I you know I basically obviously
I'm responsible man. Sigh was not the only person
that I was Consulting that morning.
I reached I obviously you know I reach out to my girlfriend.
I say look, I think I'm just going to fucking walk out of
this shit like I'm done with this but like you know were
involved in each other's lives. I'm not just gonna quit my
fucking job without running it by my girlfriend.
I mean, That's that's our system.
Our algorithm working, it just greater than beta not.
Our opinion is what it is. We have a system where in
cahoots with them, I am so sorry.
It's going to be a round table. It's going to be like a little
time with his. Like he might be over.
Like let's say Glenn Greenwald for like top guest dream guest.
You know what I mean? - yeah.
Someone like that. Like not even close.
Yeah. Not over Dave, Portnoy from you.
But anyway, okay anyway, so you can sort you know, your
girlfriend you could call your girlfriend.
I think the responsible part of me says Glenn Greenwald but the
real part of me says I want. Jessica me Peterson, why not
both? Yeah, but I is what I say, We
didn't just have a debate between Jesse, Lee Peterson and
Glenn Greenwald about whether or not he's a valid person.
Is all you don't need you don't eat meat?
Yeah. Yeah.
Who wants these dogs in the Shaker?
Kind of a deep deep cut? Yeah, it is.
Yeah. So you can salt you consult
your, the people around you close to you so that were yes.
Yes. Thank you.
Yeah. And I mean, In just green light
green light. So I just like, I'm just, you
know, I'm like, I'm fucking yeah, I'm fucking done.
So I just walked out and I actually it's actually funny.
I'm doing this right now because I had put it off.
I mean this is like really Petty like I'm like 12 years old here
or something. But I had put off, I got the
email still in my inbox from my boss and drafted up a response
to it. Suck my dick nice.
That I'm actually hitting send on right now.
Cool. And here we go.
Yep, just did it. Yeah.
So I just wanted you guys to kind of smooth.
Cool to me. Thank you for sharing that
moment with. That's good.
That's all So, so it's good to have a safety.
It's good to have a support system because some people
don't, I don't in my immediate family, like actual immediate
family, that's compressed figure.
It kind of complex. Now, the family, I married into
very much, very much supportive of any decision, I would make in
that regard. So I do have that, I don't
understand, a lot of people don't, some people do have kind
of more PMC jobs and I have basically gone their whole life
busting their ass through grad school, doing all that.
And then now they've faced this point, where it's like, dude,
How do you, how do you tell that to your family that like, I'm
not getting the shot and I'm actually gonna walk away from
like six figures and Healthcare and stuff.
Now I don't assume anything about your job but you seem a
little more working class than that, you know, are you Glenn?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
I could smell. You smell like poverty.
Yeah, and I have a poor act. I know it smells weird in there.
Yeah, it's so so. Well, yeah.
So like no, dude for sure and like that's like dude, that's
one of the things. Like I feel like all of us are
even, even if it is like, even though we are just talking about
like Rando political schizos online that we that we Talk
Amongst and everything. Like just, that is so much more
than I. I know a lot of people out
there, have sure Pete. I mean, people are just fucking
a drifts dude, and to be honest like that, That's kind of the
assumption that all of these narratives are stirred up with
is like people are fucking alone dude.
And I've been isolated at times in my life and you and and
honestly like that's when you cling to really anything and and
there's this this this time we're living through is like
defined by like nothing if not like a lot of uncertainty and so
I feel I feel really blessed to have other people, you know, I
got shuriken unified front between me and my girlfriend
obviously I got I got all my, I mean I'm blessed to have, you
know, lifelong friends in real life that I meet up with
regularly. All of all of you fucking weird,
psycho freak, you have a line that are great and everybody in
the FED cord that, that is insane.
Yeah, absolutely. Teaching me new.
Interesting things about score measurements every day, little
factoids about Israel. Yeah, you know, good stuff.
Certain questions that need to be answered.
That haven't been answered in years.
Yeah, absolutely. Very specific question.
Yeah. It's so in a, but I will say,
like yeah, dude. Like, you know, I also think
that I feel a little bit blessed to in that, I mean, look, my
savings. My savings are pretty solid
right now. I have the means to take care of
myself for a little while, right?
My job wasn't the most incredible thing in the fucking
words, right? Nothing, nothing too crazy.
And yeah yeah so I mean I had the ability to do that and
because of just job market going on right now and everything.
It's not super hard to find another job.
They're going to get a desperate they're going to get desperate
and start looking the other way I'm telling so exactly.
And so that brings me to I mean I kind of said I think my my
situation here was kind of a little bit of a microcosm of
this whole thing. I feel like and one really
interesting thing about it and an aspect that really informed.
My decision also was for the last several months we were like
severely understaffed. Yeah.
And we were severely understaffed, you know, in this
is the whole situation. Generally, it's not only because
this reason, but a big reason is because we're not paid enough,
and my boss didn't give Bennie's.
And so I think the like, You know, just you you have enough
time position not getting fucking filled, not getting
fucking filled. All of that.
Work is put onto me in the couple of co-workers that I
have, right? So, I mean and I mean you're
basically taking money out of my fucking pocket because like,
because like Market Market mechanisms, you know, are
reacting in a pretty obvious way, right?
You're not paying enough. Well, don't have the ability to
fill this fucking This this role.
And so and so then in that way also it was just kind of one of
these things. If like honestly fuck these
people and if they don't have the fucking common sense to not
enforce a fucking vaccine mandate in this situation and
you're going to lose me like yeah what the fuck you dude fuck
you. And and it's and that like which
is almost kind of like a suicidal Death Drive.
Economically is controlled demolition.
Dude, it's controlled them. You're 100% when they got to
Seattle Kingdom. And we remember when the kingdom
fell down, that's that's that's what we're doing right now.
They the great reset is Safeco, Field.
People don't know that. It's you you get like, we're
shutting down. There's no way this works.
I'm sorry. Like this, there's no way like
we're foot. We've been fucked for a long
time and I still think there's a theory.
There's a kind of a theory where you can do a controlled
Demolition. And that's why you Consolidated
wealth upwards for the last year and a half.
So the Horton. People are still safe and then
all of a sudden you have a reset and you can blame the reset
because it had to happen because of a bunch of filthy fucking
pureblood. Anti-vaxxers yeah.
Maybe very good. Memories.
Maybe even a great reset. Ya even?
Yeah, I don't think it's very great but that's what they call
it and it's not great to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's not great to me, it's a good reason.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not a great. It's like those things where it
says. Agree.
Strongly agree. I'm just like, yeah, three and I
slightly disagree. Yeah.
Okay. Reset the steel.
Beams of the American economy and certain people had the day
off. Yeah.
Seriously. It just gets old like it was it
sold five years ago and we just weren't told like on a back.
Some, what do you mean to hold? You know, like, I'm some, I'm
not trying to sound like some like fucking right wing like
crazy. Oh yeah.
You hate to do like this podcast.
Exactly. Yeah, you know, like some like,
is this some CCP shit like for real like is this?
Oh yeah, I know we own. What about the insane?
CCP? The insane kind Chinese kind of
communist Posse. That's like this is like G
Jinping but like but like in the state of Indiana State of
psychosis from cat shit. Yeah, well that's the episode
artwork is G way. Insane.
Clown Posse know. How does how does matter magnets
work? Right.
The fuck. Yeah, no much fun.
I just listened to your guys. I was late to the party but
listen to the ana.k episode is fantastic.
Hey cheers. Thank you and I was but I was
like, yeah, I like your there were saying that you're the
right whisper and I thought that was hot with honey and but like
know what do you think about? Like that whole idea of like,
you know, that everything's just we're just being.
It's like, you know, we're like a discount store.
Now, just being just being sold to the highest bidder.
Basically, you know, on the open market in that, you know, that
because that seems to be of that ilk kind of thing.
And I don't disagree. I think.
Yeah, it's probably happening, you know?
Yeah, I think there's like this, like, Zero Hedge article that I
read, like, I think like a month or two ago that was talking
about like the American middle class is basically just like
kind of being stripped mind right now.
Yeah, right. Yeah.
I mean like I mean like I'm not hmm.
Am I going to say here? I definitely think that's the
case. I mean I think that if you look
just at what this is all for, right?
Like, that's a concept that we don't even like really think
about like when we're like looking at like our culture and
like the society that we're like a part of like like kind of like
a forward. March you would hope towards
something and like, you know, we're talking about like the
insane Chinese Communist Party Posse but sure apostate.
Sorry, sorry. Sorry the dark.
Well, no, the red Carnival. Yeah.
Hey, they may go say goats they have, they're the only ones that
have keep Faygo alive is China. But they have a coherent
understanding of what they're doing and why they're doing it
for and what the future is about, right?
And I mean, I think that looking at the United States in that
kind of lends, it kind of probably becomes pretty clear
that it's just a feeding lat. Right?
It's just a feeding lot and and if you don't want to, you know,
show up to the wage cage every day.
Five days a week until you die and talk to your fucking
brain-dead co-workers. About the latest Netflix movie
about how pedophiles or misunderstood or something,
you're not really gonna fit in very well because, I mean,
that's basically what we have to offer.
And yeah, many such cases. Let me tell you it's basically
what we have to offer like and bro like bro, you want to pursue
a higher meaning. You want to like you want to
like capture the Divine like well why don't you just calm
down? You're just being weird but I
like why don't you capture some pussy bro?
Come on. Let's put you want.
Yeah you want a peek at the Divine that seems a little
fascist to me. Yeah I'm sorry.
Dude. Why don't you put on your Oculus
Rift and fucking Touch some simulated grass and now I'm
picturing your, I'm picturing your boss.
Like I was thinking about this last night and I thing like what
I was going to ask you about this type of thing, I'm
picturing like your boss like you go in there and you're just
like, you give this real heartfelt thing.
Like look I'm sorry like my bodily autonomy is more
important than any job that I can have and all this kind of
stuff and then they'll be like, oh, word salad.
You're fired like. Yeah, I can't parse this one
out. Yeah.
Yeah, those are certainly words. Yeah, no.
I want to Your boss, your boss is, their boss is just a
dirtbag. ER like dude, I just like I just
walk in and I'm just like I get this really heartfelt thing and
like and just like this is this is where I find meaning and just
like there's this pregnant silence and I just well, there
were certainly words and that they hold up the picture of the
pig shitting on his nuts. Yeah, ha ha ha.
The think that when someone was quoting you or squeeze screening
your screen capping, you of like ha ha.
Look at this dude. You know, like basically making
fun of your plight, you know, making have a guy going through
the thing that left us fight for.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Wouldn't it? Yeah, I was gonna ask you, do
you have a, do you have? I'm surely, you have access to
some leftist, general strike fund.
Right man. I got bad news for you.
Glad Yeah, I don't know how to tell you this man.
The dream is dead, okay? I was leaning on that too, so,
that's okay. Yeah, it's a great out there.
Did you have you seen a an uptick albeit slightly and the
patron of the FED books? Like yeah, I think that anyone
else. Yeah, I think this net.
I think this net us about like 10 or 12 bucks extra money. 66.
Yeah, you guys, you gotta put that in a percentage like stock
Traders, like we're up a guys. We were up 8%.
Yeah. Like we're yeah, today's the
day. Yeah, absolutely.
I'm entirely too much of an idiot to do that but but yeah.
But yeah, I would. Yeah, no.
I'm like I'm definitely feeling the Griff like this kind of this
feedback loop. It's caused of your podcast or
now you literally can say, I like right now you're watching a
master. Did I'm have I made it.
You professional podcast? I have never.
I mean some people just quit their job when they like I mean,
you did so you quit and it's not like you're like hey I'm gonna,
you know, No, I'm going to quit my job and then I'm gonna like
help Bernie Sanders try to get elected and then when he doesn't
get elected, I'm gonna start reviewing seasons of Entourage
and charging people for it as you're saying that, I'm just
like, I'm like deleting like edited up clips of Entourage
reviews that I had. Yeah, exactly.
But yeah, no, I mean, getting back to the serious stuff, we
were talking about like that, how does there's no way this
succeeds? Now this gets to the point where
I mean, maybe it does succeed and I've been getting into some
arguments and I do and these aren't like heated arguments is
more. So, like, debating with people
that I like on Twitter because there's a lot of people on
Twitter are kind of like, the cathedral people were there,
like, these people are all really fucking stupid, and they
don't know how this ends. And I'm like, I don't know about
that, man. Like, I just don't know that.
These one team, what do you mean?
So, say this, like, say every like, I don't know if this is
the cathedral, I a lot of nrx people think this way, Neil
reactionary people were there just like everybody in charge is
fucking stupid. It.
Oh yeah incompetent they don't know what's going on there, just
winging it. They're just basically trying to
do a cash grab they don't care what happens after that, which I
say may be possible but I watch Bill Gates, look at Bill Gates,
read his career, and then like watch five minutes on Bill Gates
and be like, wow, what a retard? No, he's fucking insanely smart,
like these people are insanely smart now.
Yeah, fauci is an idiot. Like you watch fauci on TV.
You need idiots. You need idiots below.
The smart people to go on TV and say, idiot shit to other idiots
and you Need all that kind of stuff.
But like what do you saw? What do you think about that?
Cuz I know you when I listen to your guys's episode with or in
McIntyre, you kind of were able to talk to him a little bit
better than anybody else would I should say.
Like, if that's fair to say, like you kind of maybe under at
least understood where he was coming from on that.
I don't necessarily agree with what these people think.
I think this is getting these people are Masters at this shit.
Okay, I mean okay I think like where I'm coming at it from, I
think that you would be hard-pressed Just to find any
kind of driving force in a moment of History.
Like like like maybe we could say the cathedral is that was
entirely made up of like is just a boat of fools, right?
Right. I early made up of incompetence
or or, you know, entirely entirely defined, you know, by
maniacal Geniuses and everything.
I mean, when we're talking About big.
We're talking about big cumbersome institutions.
I think that it's probably a pretty fair insight to make that
like these kinds of structures lead to incentive systems that
that kind of make people incompetent Rubes, right?
I mean like I mean look at look at, you know, stalinism and shit
like that, right? I mean, just like just it just
just weird, bizarre behavior. ER, I'm getting a little bit
off-track point is what I'm what I was going to say is that I
think it's very, I think that it's very naive to like,
characterize the whole thing as just like because because what
you what you see, a lot of these kind of types saying is, you
know, some of the, you know, some of the effect of, like, God
is great, and my enemy will fall on his sword.
Sure. By the light of God and by his
own hubris or something like that, right?
And I think that that's like really a mistake.
To make yeah II at the same time and I think this is a little bit
more where I fall into it. There's there's, there's a lot
of different factions right. There's a lot of people here
that are really fucking smart people in that have, man.
I'm, I need to look away from my monitor.
Yes. Is it change it?
Change it. When you have somebody yelling
data at you, like, it's very like, it's very tough.
It's like, it's like when you're at a sports game and and the
fans have a chant for you and shit.
I mean, like you're trying to be honest.
I knew I was going to have to change it at some point, I got
to see how far I'd get. You got like twenty eight
minutes into the episode, so that's pretty good.
Yeah, I'm just I'm realizing like as I'm thinking it out
like, I have a middling answer and I know that like people
don't want to hear middling answers like in in this in this
high-octane Marketplace of ideas and discourse but like I think
that both takes our right. Yeah.
Which is like there's a real hazard.
In doing the white dude, like getting addicted to the white
pills of like are our enemies are idiotic Rubes.
And like, I like to hear this because it makes me feel good
because I'm the smart guy and also because like there's hope
there's hope we're all going to make it right.
And at the same time they're obviously is something to the
Insight that like, hey like what we're seeing right now is like a
product of like Global Tech, No Cap at all and like a really
bloated like Middle fatty region managerial bureaucracy, that's
come out of this. So strange looking?
Yes. Strange-looking little man jail.
He's small, he's small and he's weird.
Anyways. It's like I'm sorry.
It's just like Jordan, Jordan. Jordan, Jesse Lee Peterson is
like, it's like all the combined psychic energy of all those
Minstrel shows from the past. Yeah.
The created him like a tulpa. He was thought into existence
Lincoln character, absolutely agent Cooper dream sequence
asked guy like just just 100%, it's like this.
I'm gonna like I'm gonna dream Jesse talking to me backwards
tonight. Yeah, she knows who killed Laura
Palmer. Like, you'll just with pictures
and like, in a way like he did, but it was really her dad, but
it is kind of him. So, so you think your kind of
hedging between To these people don't know shit or these people
are sick and they know everything.
Right. Yeah.
And I yeah, just just to finish my just to get a cap on this.
Yeah, or else, it'll bother me all night.
Like, like if we understand where the problem is coming
from, then that Insight makes a lot of sense and it's very
helpful, right? And so then understanding like,
it's not one or the other. It's just like, understanding
the, the context of, where, either of these sides are coming
from when they're saying these things.
Which is that's an accurate analysis of the issue. 100%.
And then the the worry that that that will breed complacency is
also obviously makes a lot of sense, especially because, like
one of the most daunting problems is that like so many
forms of resistance to all this stuff that have a resemblance of
things that came from the past seem completely futile.
These days and not They just that, but they act to feed into
the issue itself, right? So that's, that's kind of my
take on it. Yeah, that's beautiful.
Yeah, I was going. I feel largely the same, but
it's obvious that there's a huge amount of incompetence in these
structural systems, but that's not to say some genius.
Some Evil Geniuses can't make some crazy shit happen within
that system preordained. You know, that's what the gates
thing is, I think, and And yeah this is it's so obvious that
it's it's preordained are pretty a premeditated and everything
and it's all like Glen and I were talking about the where
it's hung on Earth was I going with that thought?
It's obvious, it was premeditated and it's it like
it's not even hidden and it wouldn't even have been that
hard there at the world economic Forum, talking about how we need
to in 2019. We need to come up with vaccines
to stop the flu and stop. Stop respiratory illnesses.
This is 2019, there's clips of ouchie Klaus.
They're just chopping it up. It's like damn, it's like a like
a like a podcast of them just at the world work at World economic
Forum like sharing things to each other.
Did you guys hear the the moderna as like when they were,
you know? Because their whole thing is
like an investment, there are no scam base.
Yeah, right, you know, we're in like three years ago, they were
like, all right, here's what we're main things mRNA vaccines
and we got, we got the flu, we got RSV, we got zika and we got
one special surprise coming up. They like literally said that,
they're like, we're not going to leave us, please.
Three their head flavor. Yeah, he's white one.
Yeah, it's the white pill. Yeah.
It's the mystery flavor. Yeah.
And yeah, that's funny. That's funny.
The what now I will say this like I think I think hedging is
correct like what slob was saying?
I think that's correct. Now, here's the way I could
synthesize a to. Now, I believe that we probably
don't have the same competent leaders as let's go to the right
Wingers. Like Caesar times those people
are way smarter, in my opinion because it was all about, how do
I over match my enemy. We have relatively the same
technology as the enemy over there.
You might even have sick or shit, but either way it's going
to come down to some Brute Force, right?
I got stronger, guys in, they got I got more guys than I got.
Boom, boom, boom. That's that's usually how it
would go down. Then then you try to strategize
how you attack that person. Problem is these if you even
want to call these people incompetent, they have Tech at
their disposal, that is competent, right?
That debt that you have a stuttering president, that's
like shitting himself on a fake green screen, getting a booster
shot of whatever that is. It's like a damn SNL set,
whatever that is and He's able to basically get sloppy quit his
job. Essentially, you know what I
mean? Yeah, I mean, in again have been
like, in something that doesn't even exist in like, in like the
formal realm of law. Justjust him at his word, right?
It's the. It's a yeah, yeah.
It's amazing. Yeah, so suggestion.
Yeah. That's a great answer.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's I still think I still think he's bluffing on this
shit. I'm not even sure you see the
OSHA a UI not even. Okay I work in construction.
OSHA is garbage. Okay, Ari.
Edge. They suck.
They suck at everything. They never know.
I've been working, bro, construction for five years for
many different contractors, many different companies.
And I've seen them once come out to a site.
We've had guys almost died. We've had all this action, don't
show. This is a very interesting thing
because I talked a little bit about this with some other
people have talked about this on like my own podcast and like
this is something that I that I've heard and that I think
there's really something to which is yeah.
Like you know, OSHA as As an enforcement arm of this is like
really really inadequate, right? Yeah.
And that there are some very, very real, very big limitations
to what you could be, you know, put ourselves in the position of
three absolute sickos that are like staunchly in favor of this
vax mandate and everything, if we're, if we're just like gun
in, for that, right? Like Rivers, kind of flowing
again. At us in a lot of really
logistical way. Really all logistical ways.
Yeah, yeah, I want to like it's just, it's just it's refreshing
to hear someone say that because I've kind of been out in the
cold on this issue a little bit, she's garbage.
Like I'm not I'm telling you this is so we had Fredo from
good old boys live radio on couple weeks ago and he put it
best. I thought where he said, maybe
maybe the Mandate isn't really enforceable but it's going to
reply going to require. Low-level pleb wages to do the
work snitching. You know?
I mean, I'm working with an unboxing person within close
proximity, OSHA get out here right now.
I'm working with Dota 2, this is going to happen, that's what has
to happen because Market stalinism.
Yeah, damn, yes, exactly. Like, you cannot even get the
benefits of stalinism with this situation.
The gays are the ones that are firing.
This is unbelievable. Yes.
And the so that's that's my thing is like, OSHA sucks.
They're not that I don't understand how you enforce his
mandate. They can't even like inspect
harness harnesses on job sites for guys, cleaning windows and
shit. They can't even let go up there.
These guys, cleaning the goddamn.
What's the highest building in Seattle, Space, Needle, you
know, on Colombians our Columbia Tower.
There you go. Space Needle.
Where's that? Where's that?
Dare you. Where is that?
Where is he? Like in the, what district?
I mean, it's there though, right?
It since, yeah. Okay.
That's what makes I wasn't lying about something completely.
Yeah, I know totally restaurant to is its food, right?
It's like a spinning rest. Yeah.
Yeah, the spacing will the, yeah, the Space Needle is like
short as fuck, compared to like the rest of like downtown, but
okay, but there's a, there's a restaurant up there.
I think the restaurant dude, I think this is actually funny as
fuck again, as with everything, don't quote me on this.
I don't know how up to date my facts are but I think that
lockdowns killed the On top of the Space Needle.
So funny. You know what?
To get into the Space Needle to bring it back.
We need everyone to put a needle into their own.
Yeah, it looks like a giant Moon.
I wanted to get me, this is on the kind of on top of what
you're talking about, but it's the, it's the smart.
I know they're smart. The smart people that are
saying, oh this is all just the same stuff like this is just a
different version. It's like, oh, it's just
capitalism or it's just the same.
It's the same as always, it's the thing I hate and it's like,
clearly, this is like some novel shit, you know.
It's like I'm saying, like among exactly.
It's like, yeah, it's why history?
Doesn't matter when people are like.
Hey dude, so here's the thing. Kangaskhan.
What he did in fucking whatever BC fucking Adrian.
I don't even know when game Yes, hon existed, whatever happened,
there, boom, boom, boom, this happened.
Like I just like to do and I'm just I'm just gonna I'm just
gonna respond to everything that happens in life.
I just like, do whatever. This isn't a big deal.
This is just some variation on the Order and Chaos.
Yeah. And a good business in the
beginning of time, bro. Yeah.
The business the byzantines. Let me tell you what the
byzantines, what they did when they write about the Byzantine,
when they mandated you get a shot to put fucking concrete and
build, Gobekli Tepe and all this shit like when they when they
decided yeah the everybody has a story.
Context. Yeah, we don't have a historical
context for this shit. Nobody had this kind of tech at
their disposal because in Serbia is that really all you have to
do is stop being a bitch and don't get the shot.
That's really what you have to do that.
Like honestly, you have to just not participate.
You have to let this shit crumble.
We have no other option like we have no other option.
You have to let it crumble and you have to realize that your
Labour still means something. Maybe the mistake these people
made is that they thought our labor was useless.
Maybe that's the mistake. They made that these incompetent
people if they are incompetent. Well and I've got one, I've got
one you I mean I've Got one for you right here, which is and
before, and before that, you just reminded me.
I feel like we need to have a history cast because you just
mentioning go back to death. He and, and it just ended and I
just remembered that you guys got me to just go down the
Graham Hancock. Oh, how much did your listeners
hate us for that? By the way, I was always
wondering what I got. I got some shit.
I got some shit for that. They're like, dude.
Love the FED post these guys fucking retards.
I was like all right we'll see, we're right where we want to be.
Yes, that's exactly what we need.
That was the funniest one of the white one of the better
conversations I've had was fantastic.
Was so fun. It was just, it was just really
fun because I knew in my head, I'm like, I know these people
are going to hate this shit. Like what you got not to like
not to say you're like, you're late to this whatever go ahead
and we respond, I'm late. No, but you like, you remember,
you being, like, you heard about this Gobekli Tepe and shit.
And I was on that. Like I was on that Rogan tip,
you know, a couple years ago I was like, dude I think that what
I'm Graham had kick rocks. So you got me back.
Into it. You know how?
Yeah, I have Fingerprints of the Gods.
I'm getting a band. The dude's Ted Talk, dude.
It's such a yeah, it's really fucking cool shit.
Honestly, but so, so, so what you were just talking about
above just kind of like the yeah, the, the power that that
labor does have, I'm to preface a little bit, I am probably a
little bit more cynical than you because, like, one of the things
that did make me, Quit also is just like realizing that like
yeah. I've been like, how stood as an
unclean leper like by my fucking fellow fellow workers, right?
Right. I'll say and this is kind of my
response to all the fucking annoying ass, right?
Wingers that were low roll. This is the problem with with
right Wingers like you should have stayed until you were
carried out in handcuffs. Yeah, it is.
It's like there. They were severely,
short-staffed and due to a few other factors just directly
linked to everything that's going on right now, me just
walking out was like the absolute best thing I could have
done to absolutely fuck them. And I didn't need to do any
crazy insane petty shit of like causing damage that I would be
like I would be responsible for anything like that.
Like I just walked out and like they're fucked.
So 100%. What am I feeling to write?
Beautiful feeling. Right, bro?
It was amazing, dude. Like I was I was like, I was I
was humming to myself and the car ride home.
Yeah. And also you get the like
feeling you ever like, like right now I'm on a like a
five-day vacation for a vacation that didn't happen.
Basically and and what happened, like I already hear people
texting me like, dude, it's fucking swamp dude.
Like they would have like they wish you would have canceled
your time off. And I mean, like in your head
you're just like fuck off. I want, you know what I mean?
In that sense, but you did the ultimate version of That where
you're just like, I won. I won now.
I think what I think somebody was saying I saw somebody saying
in one of the comments on your post was saying hey you should
have stayed and then it would have helped your unemployment
benefits. I don't know how cause I know
goes by state. A lot of times what the
unusually tired so you need to be fired, okay, so do you did
you so you left that on the table?
Basically but yeah, yeah yeah, I'm not eligible for
unemployment. What are these murmurs I'm
hearing about? I don't know if this is enforced
anywhere but if you get fired for not getting the vaccine even
if you're fired. You're uh yeah that's the thing.
I think you would have still been fucked, you know.
So I actually read that over fairly closely and I could be
pretty wrong here. Well no I'm I'm pretty
confident. I shouldn't always hedge
basically because that was a thing, an issue that was talked
about a little bit in the Press around Jay Inslee the governor
of Washington. And basically he had a big
pushback from labor unions. Right about, you get laid up,
basically what you said, right? You terminated for not getting
the backs. Fuck you.
You're on your own Shawn, right? I'm almost certain that the
media coverage and all of that. It was, it was all about
policies for large unions and specifically like you Ended up,
Union up to ya, fuck Union. Not even a real phrase, you know
what I'm saying? Yeah, Oscar Fede.
Yeah. You know, people that would, you
know, you know, work for the government shit like that, just
like Joe schmo's like working for a small business like that
aren't Union or anything like that.
I don't believe that was the case.
But the way the way it was covered in stories I think was
in a very vague way. To make it seem like it was just
talking about all the workers. Yeah, not the case.
And that's intentional.
They do that to make its right. They've just enough information
to make it seem like everyone's got to do this thing or it's
going to apply to everyone. What assignment Thomas Massie
said it beautifully. I thought he, I think he's right
on. This is where he said, he's
right on a lot of things I could do the fucking base, but he was
saying that he thinks that this is just Biden is just basically
putting Pressure on employers to beat him to the Mandate.
Yeah. Is that?
Because they're unsure of what's happened?
Like, okay, well, I better do it because I don't want to pay that
fine. If that does come down the pipe
and that's why I do say, you know, to some people like I'll
say this like there's a guy at my work is like unvaccinated.
Like, dude, I'm like on an island, like I got nobody, I was
like, well first, I like hit me up.
You know, I'm telling him, I hit me up.
Give me a call whatever. Like if you're going through,
those kind of like things, because we've already made it
this far. If you made it this far, you
don't want, right? I think we've made that thing
you do. You're not waiting on the facts,
not a skeptic, you're not a long, just waiting to see the
myocarditis trials know, you know, you know that you're like,
I'm not getting this fucking disgusting.
Oh yeah, no. No and I made and I made the
dumb mistake. Of saying that I was just going
to wait for FDA approval to people to people that wanted me
to get it. Of course, I didn't mean that,
right? But you say that understanding
right? That like, oh well, like I'm
waiting for that after like, you know, years of Trials, and all
of that. So really, I'm just saying,
like, I'm going to wait, five to ten years or something, I guess,
right? But then, but then obviously,
you know, like, two months later the like, hey, we finished it,
if the holes I just pull starts the fucking You know, you you a
approval machine for a veteran. Yeah.
He's the funniest, which is the
funniest thing because it's like, because it's like,
holdouts that were waiting for that.
It's like, no, you're like, I just love the logic of just
being like, no, like, obviously, you weren't waiting for approval
because it's based on like any kind of like data that's been
gathered. You were just really waiting for
a bunch of pencil pushers to do clerical work and just like, we
just made sure to file these forms faster for Are you?
Well, thank God. That's what I was waiting for.
Exactly, it's a moral decision. It doesn't matter.
The economic system that it's on it.
So complete moral decision where you're like and and just
knowledge of basic viruses, which is funny because I don't
know if you guys have noticed this.
I've noticed a I'm a big like changing propaganda when I see
the propaganda change. I'm very much like okay, what's
next? So I see somebody that says for
a while, it was vaccines work, vaccines work, vaccines work.
Okay, we see, Singapore's 85% vax and they have an insane peek
in Cases right now. Israel the same way and India's
the same way. So now it's not vaccines work
anymore. You notice anyone say that
mandates work, that's what I'm hearing right now, mandates.
Work. And it's like, yeah, everybody.
They're trying to eliminate the control group many such cases.
If you research vaccine implementation, in the past,
everybody's Gonna Hate saying this dissolving, Illusions, read
it. It's there.
All of that happens. You eliminate the control group,
help, Pfizer, inoculated, their control group in there in there,
could there? Control, trials, people don't
realize this. There were no, there was never a
control group. Yeah, like, never was one
control group. Yeah, exactly.
And you got these people in, like, Gavin Newsom today.
My one of my guys, he was saying that okay, was it?
He wants to get up to age, 12 can get it now and he wants.
He's working on, getting it from 5 to 12 mandated, which is this
is seriously until the Holocaust for children.
It's very seriously as I'm not being hyperbolic there and you
guess what? His kid. 12 years old not vax
yet. Yeah same guy.
So yeah yeah. So it's all this stuff.
So every said I'm waiting on this actually I'm waiting on
this and everybody knows that I've pivoted to like I'm not
getting and it was really, it was really crazy.
I talked to my mom and I you know, I don't like the air out,
my mom like this, but we're talking and she's just very much
a CNN, you know, liberal, just Russia gate, all that kind of
stuff. We've never owned property.
We've been pretty much dirt. Poor my whole life, but the
Democrats are going to save us. And the we just got to get rid
of those pesky Republicans. And what she was telling me, she
finally was like, I'm kind of I need you to reconsider.
She did the Bernie Sanders. I'm once again asking you to
reconsider and I was like like I'm not going to as I thought I
was like, I'm just this not happening.
I'm not going to do it. And that and then I was like,
well, you are then Iceberg. Doubt, I turned it into Glen and
I started saying like, I start I really started spurgin out.
And I was just like, okay, if you've seen Israel numbers, if
you look at this, you realize That this has way too many
animal vectors to ever be vaccinated against to get rid of
this virus. It's time to start treating it
as such I started turning into like Ben Shapiro.
Yeah. And then Glenn should be
recited. Yeah, I'm down.
Dude. Hell yeah.
I do not have a sister stop and but I also have all these facts
that I could. She looks at me and it was
almost like I got a software update that she didn't, she just
was like, just a windows. 98 error.
Message just didn't like that. She just goes, I don't think
your information is correct. Yes.
And walked away and it's insane. Like, it's insane because the
way she looked at me, she was like, how did you come out of
me? What happened?
Where did where did like, where did I go wrong?
And I'm like, I'm 31 years old. So psych.
It's yeah. I'm an adult is like, it's okay.
You just have my mom sent me the Rolling Stone.
Ivermectin article? Yeah.
Whoa, whoa, we got way really fast, guys.
Are we talking about? Second horse space of damn whore
spaces. Goddamn horse, thuds.
They can't get enough of this goddamn horse face.
Yeah. Anyways, freaking horses.
Hello. I love horse-based.
I just want my favorite terms. I loved one of the horse or
spaced post slobs. It's my really great space.
I love it, dude. I'm sad.
It's going, honestly, memory, hold, by the way, completely
memory. Hold.
Now that it really works, So but anyway.
Yeah, anyways, I were you, I'm sorry.
I have to, you know, Peter Khoury right and he he he did.
The whole Chad Source I made it up thing when he's like, yeah,
you know, like a hundred hundred Congress members like used
Ivermectin, right? And everyone's like, dude, you
can't say that. Like where'd you get that info?
And he's just like, I trust my sources, you know?
He's just like, I don't trust yours.
Yeah, the same thing I'd say anything.
Like, but I was like, I was like, hey, you sent me that
thing a while back and like I sent you all the stuff showing
it's all fake like and you never responded to me like and, you
know, I was just like, man, it's like, is that like a lesson or
something? I wasn't trying to like I was
just like, if you had his non-consequential to.
Yeah. That's the problem is they don't
see the risk, the way we see the risk.
Yeah. Like that's really what it is.
It's in consequential. It's like you just get a shot
one. Yeah.
What do you guys think would happen?
I was thinking about this earlier, I've been thinking
about this a lot if you could wave a magic wand and One in the
entire world would be double dosed with Pfizer.
What do you guys think would happen?
Then you know if literally everyone was compliant but it
would it fail you know obviously it would you know but like what
what do you think would happen? Then as I think I think it'll
last long enough it would last what the beauty of this is.
Everybody's like that. The fallacy I hear is
everything. Oh hey if you don't get anything
in the first 14 days of your, you know, second shot or
whatever the hell it is, I don't even know.
They'll be like, you're usually good.
I always hear people say that a lot.
No, Mike. That's not true.
And you know first off we don't know this is completely like we
don't know. The long-term studies in this
shit is this shit got, you know, sped up like well also with the
MRNA this is you're going to, you're going to be, you're going
to potentially pass things on your fucking kids straight up.
And it was funny because like that Black Panther movie cast
the woman Leticia, right? I think is her name.
She plays. I don't know if anyone's, I'm
sure we have a lot of Marvel fan list and the there's a There's a
lady in Black Panther. I was one of the few Marvel
movies. I saw and scientists woman.
Yeah. Well, they co-signed, what kind
of forever he is the scientist when she's like that.
Hey, guys, Brute Force isn't going to work.
Let me go like that, and we're gonna kick the fucking white
people's ass. Well, what I love I love.
Oh sorry, I'm cutting you off. I'm cutting you off.
I'm sorry. But yeah.
Anyways, dad that the, she's I can tie backs, like, right?
She's on and like, hardcore. And guess what?
She got. A lot of Africans are hate to
break it to you. You don't like that shit.
Stop trying to get the IP. The intellectual property thing.
They don't want that shit. So, we talked about Jeremy last
time, but anyways, the, the people are going insane.
The libs, the book, my favorite reaction was like, oh my God,
the person who would have invented the MRNA vaccine.
Her character would have doesn't want to mRNA value.
And then I was like, oh really. So she would have been Robert
Malone. Yeah.
Acting right now and next role as a quick side now like I
didn't I saw black panther did not like the movie but
absolutely the worst part about it is that that broads character
is this latest woke Trope that they put in other movies where
it's young girl, who's in a stem field.
Then condescends all of the adults around her.
It's just kind of like she's sassy and so absolute worst part
of that movie, which is saying something.
Wasn't it one of that movie being absolutely the most base.
You do love to see it. I was recently around some
people, a person who was just listening to Hmm.
Okay. I'll say this little story and
then if it ends up being too much information afterwards,
then they will just tell you to cut this tiny little part, but
if that's okay. But his life, go ahead.
Yo fuck, yeah, I'm sorry. Is that 25,000 people watching?
They won't remember. It's fine.
Say it. Yeah, one of my co-workers,
listen to just like one of these like sicko podcasting Network
podcasts, right? Like Like, if you know, like if
it's answered by and produced by like Spotify, you know that shit
is going to make you like, yeah, you know, just carving to give
you myocarditis. You're just going to get it.
Thank you. Anyways, there was one of the
that my coworker listen to that was it was just literally just
like it's just like black person news the most bizarre thing.
It's like it's like that's just what the Zeitgeist is now, I
know exactly. And so I'm like listening to
this shit and like you know I'm like fucking just Fingernails on
my face. Hey, yeah, but I realized one
week, right? I'm listening to it all the
fucking time. This is dog.
Shit is dog, shit. They're psychotic.
Yada yada yada. And then one week, dude, they
stopped talking about shaming. Anti-vaxxers, and it's because
in this is like, this is, this is so fucking funny.
Right? Is like, yeah, you guys are just
like, Shout Out by this Chimera horrible Global Capital machine,
right? But because of that, you can't
afford to get your main Market that upset at you.
So you guys can't really talk about the vaccine anymore and I
was so thankful for that and it was so fucking funny, dude, that
it was like a land Ian moment in real life.
That's hilarious. It's very funny and yeah, so I
actually think we should pivot here to transgenders and we come
back now. That I mean, I'll bring it up
the whole time. Yeah, that Slavs unemployed I
think is Really good time to talk about this.
I know I know walnuts laws. Good.
Next job is Sonic as a sonic. Yeah it's on again.
I see there's an opening in lossing.
I'll know the voice, I'll be like, that's him.
Yeah. But the the so I wanted to talk
about that. We're going to talk about this.
Anyways, there was a just a fascinating viral video that
came out. I'll put it in the post
production here, I'll put it in the episode but there was
basically this It was like the Steven Crowder of transgenders
was why. I would put out there, they pull
up and just like, hey, what's up, in other words Steven
Crowder is what you're saying that point.
Yeah. And and like, you know this this
cat pulls up and was like, like what gender am I real fast like,
I want to play a game, you know, like saw and that's like, what,
Jen, what gender am I and, you know, and then the the employee
and if you're watching on Rumble, you know, just to plug
that real fast, you could see my background.
These are the two people involved.
The guy who's very much Latin X is is saying okay okay like this
bitch, this bitch looks like the woman from Roma and he looks
like a Mexican. Robert Rice.
I cannot get over. Yeah, burning Professor, he's a
professor at Berkeley, that works at Sonic on the week.
It's gonna be the new labor second.
I was thinking Horatio Sanz for the chick, but oh, no.
That's it, that's a little too in the ballpark.
Anyways, the the so this for the pull-up on and they're like what
gender am I like if you look at me what what what gender and the
guy's a god, a guy, I don't know like that.
And you just has this like that and then like wrong.
Um I'm actually this and this and this and you shouldn't
assume and did it. And it's like, first off, they
asked you to assume like they're you, please assume my gender.
If you're wrong, I'll kill you. And and then the guy has the has
the debit card is the best part of the whole thing.
He has he has the transgender persons debit card and it's just
like, but you got a guy's name on you?
It's a guy I don't fucking know. And the best part about this
whole scenario, here we go. Is that you don't?
Well maybe you don't know this, we have.
But my take on the scenario is, I love these type of videos way
more than the Jim Jordan Pederson.
Ben Shapiro videos because they try to like facts and logic
their way out of something that is clearly just a popular
opinion of 97% of the population where it's like whatever I think
you are, that's what you are. And because you get these people
like Jordan Peterson will be like actually under the first
amendment of a particle. I thought that's it.
I don't have to address you as your product and that always
seems lame as fuck when they say stuff like this.
Yeah. All you have to say is, I'm
sorry. Thought you were, dude.
You look like a dude, what do you want me to do?
You know? I mean like, that's that is what
it is. If your ideal if your ideology
crumbles under that response, it's not a real ideology.
Well, I do what I have to Reject.
This really fast because you guys were I'm going to do the
fast-talking thing. I'll try not to hedge too many
times during it. Slow it down.
You guys earlier, we're talking about, like, you're talking to
like, oh, you're talking to your mom and you're like, trying to
destroy her with facts and logic and then you just like hit a
brick wall, right? You just like, hit a brick wall
because normies just speak from scripts now and so, yes, I can.
You get someone to go off script?
Then it's like, oh my gosh. I haven't like access this part
of my fucking soul in like years.
Like who am I like, I'm broke. Okin but it like what I was
going to say at that point, I just like we kind of we kind of
kept moving. But like this is all an argument
in favor of a kind of post rationalist way of approaching
politics these days. Like like it's not about and
I've completely given up. I think this is what gives you
guys a strong thing to approach covid through on this show
because you guys stay up to date on this stuff.
Like I stopped tracking statistics and facts in
everything about covid months ago.
Because like, yeah, big because it because it's not rationalism
isn't going to beat this and basil.
Would, you know, his whole thing about trans being this in
insanely? I would think of it, kind of as
like a critically placed block and a Jenga Tower.
Right. Yeah.
In this hole. Yeah, it's not a rationalist.
Le-ge-teh, it isn't right. And so to go to these people and
be like, Jordan Pederson trying to resuscitate?
Yes. Fucking fucking Classical
liberalism. And he's like, oh well, I'm just
going to act like a, I've just, I've just been, I've just been
trapped in Academia my whole adult life.
So this is going to work here and it's like, no, this is a
street fight. Like this is a street fight and
like transgenderism is like gouging your fucking eyes out
right up and you're not going to fuck it.
You know what I mean? Yeah, this person pulled up on a
fucking worker and just Okay. What gender am I or else you're
fired? It was literally the saw clown
coming out on the tricycle saying like you're gonna die
because of something you did wrong.
I'm just gonna assume you've missed gendered someone in the
past so that's why you're here in my soccer game.
And then you and then all of a sudden I pull up on my little
tricycle and what kind of wood gender are you and this purse.
I seen after they were like tweeting that song Hae at Sonic.
Is this the high person? You employ in there?
Like, we pay minimum wage. We do.
Yeah, we we will little bit, but let's not discount at Sonic was
like we take these things, very seriously.
Seriously. And like, yeah, like, I don't
know that the person that runs the Sonic account is
transgender, that's what people don't realize that.
You know, the new commercial for Sonic is going to be those two
guys that are very gay for each other.
On the low that are always getting the car augs getting
marketing getting phallic-shaped foods and like this is the best
one. Oh my God like that's just gonna
they're gonna be wearing wigs and like moo moooooo so in the
next one. Yeah and the next time
incorporating this. Yeah exactly everybody knows.
Two guys. So basically, you guys are
saying this guy, this gentleman did what in NF 1 minute and 40,
second clip, what Jordan Pederson has failed and like 37
thousand hours of you'll be Jordan.
Because this economic thing, this is an academic thing, stop
trying to win it through the Avenue of Academia.
It doesn't work, it's clearly. If you were to pull 99% of
America and asks, like, is this person a dude or a chick behind
me? You might not like the answer.
If you're, you know, protti our eggs.
If like it just but that's going to be the answer.
That's my limit. It's a social construct, it's
constructed and Glen, and I were in agreement.
It's rather. It's a Mexican dude, dude.
Always write it is and like, I'm sorry, I would like, it's so.
So, here's the thing about about transgenderism that I, that I
always find that that the people who are most in favor of
abolishing gender and stuff like that, they don't, they never
seem to be in favor of localism, right?
I think that's fair to say they're never like, they do,
they want this big global economy, Global free trade
immigration, and all that kind of stuff.
The they never I think transgender transgenderism only
works under localism right like where it's like I like Dave
Chappelle in his in his last special had a friend who's
transgender and everybody. Dave, Chappelle is transphobic
number one guy comedian, but he had a friend in San Francisco
for a long time was like this is just a cool person because they
have a vested interest in that person's happiness.
I don't have a vested interest in making someone happy who's
pulling up trying to get me fired?
I'm not gonna be like, wow, let me make sure I get made your
gender, right. Oh my God, let Me, make sure I
get this right. You know what I mean?
Like otherwise. No, I'm sorry, like you've tried
to put the fear of God in Me, but on a local level, if I knew
you grew up with, you, have a vested interest in you being
happy. I'd like, you know what?
Sure, let's do this. You know, I mean but instead
they want to make this as fucking huge Community.
When Allah Justice like in the terms of like the idea of the
concept of representation and visibility and things all that.
Yeah. All that is like whatever
because that what that needs to happen on a national Global
level? It's like, no, honestly if you
have, you know, if you want to When your community to be happy
and that person you're like, hey, this person is pretty
chill, I guess. Cool.
Okay. They want to dress like this.
Now this? Yeah, I mean, well, this is
where this is where, I mean we get the big disconnect of like
of like of maybe and I don't think that this is a this is
like a hard sell to you at all but like I think the disconnect
here just actually really becomes like is it is any of
this actually motivated by like genuine concern and care for
people and like Compassion. Exactly.
Right. We're talking about
pharmaceutical Ploy. Yeah.
You well know I know yeah we're talking about like oh wide-scale
compassion versus like it's much more effective at a small scale
and like none of this is about compassion.
This is about like this is about this is a fucking.
What's that compliance? Yeah, it's playing Simon set,
playing Simon says about every day, it's about that in some
way, but then like as far as the individual subject and
everything goes like, like, but both both the trans person and
the person around On the damn needing to, you know, placate or
or, you know, go against or whatever it is.
It's just a quick and easy feedback loop to feel good about
yourself. It's bullshit.
And yeah, as far as, like, the compliance thing, and this,
okay, this makes me think of this kind of funny, there's this
chapter in Infinite Jest or they're talking about this
character, who would Who would play in all of the tennis, all
the tennis tournaments that all the would go on it.
Like this school, the book is set in and like I don't I think
he was like not affiliated with any of the schools or
organizations, but he just would like walk out onto the court and
he would just pull out a gun and he would put it to his head and
he would play you in tennis and and like just basically like
just kind of the implied threat that he was going to kill
himself. If your team, let him play.
And then and then him and then the joke is that he won all of
these tournaments, right? Right.
Yeah. The beat him.
And so this guy just, just just ran game on all of these tennis
tournaments because he was threatening to kill himself the
whole time. That's that's what all of this
hits and that's why transgenderism centigrade is why
am I in charge of making sure you don't commit suicide.
Like I've never understood that like why am I just a regular
working person be like okay, hey Like watch what you say to
someone cause they could kill themselves and it's like well
and really fast like to anybody who wants to be critical of what
we're saying right now. And and say that this is this is
too vague or abstract or something.
This is fundamentally the argument being made for you know
trans health care and like the the epidemic of violence and all
of that that trans Health Care being preventative of suicides.
And things like that. Never once mentioning that
suicide rates in the transcommunity, go up after a
significant medical intervention and things like that.
Absolutely. What, like in the whole thing,
though, living under bridges doing meth thing that, you know,
Glenn you were talking about, you know?
Yeah, so they say, well, I know this one will get me definitely
in some trouble. So I saw one person actually, I
didn't realize that the lead singer of Eve 6 is that lib
tarded, but that it was the lead singer of the band.
Eve 6, and he was just like, oh, okay.
Dave, Chappelle thinks it's funny to make fun of these
people. Don't do it.
Uh, and you get transgender people are getting murdered
under overpasses every single day and all that kind of stuff.
I'm like why are they under overpasses?
Because they're all getting because they're all getting
kicked out by their parents or their buying meth.
I mean like I'm sorry like I'm just saying like like if Like
that. Okay, the reason I looked at
this when Elizabeth Warren was baiting Bernie Sanders when I
was left with the Rose Garden, there was the yeah, she was
reading out like the like like it was a freaking leak like the
course of frequently greeting. I just a bunch of black Trans
women names over like a chorus who at the end she was just
like, so and so died. So and so died, someone so died
and I think it's all bad. If you do this and just all of
the so-and-so died and I'm like, in my head, I looked up.
I was like, you know what, I'm going to look up like the
murders of these people, you know?
I mean like what happened like what were they murdered?
Because of The tracks because I don't doubt for a second that
that maybe there could have been like a.
Whoa, like, you're actually dude.
Like, yeah, you know, I don't, I don't doubt that that happened
from time to time. Here's the thing, almost, all of
them ended up becoming either botched meth deals or like sex
trade shit. You know what I mean, where this
happened? And it's like, do we not see
that as the problem? You know what I'm saying, in
these murders, I don't think you say like, again, these, you're
not going to get the academic debate underneath an overpass of
of door. Peterson vs.
Transgender grad student Elemental areas that we are
Jordan Peter, my heart, just like some like just some John
walking up to like a like a tranny hooker and just being
like well you see the chaos Dragon, that's what you're
trying to capture. But I have to lay down because I
had a glass of apple cider. And listen, if you're not up
that and you don't make peace with it.
It'll bloody Kill Ya. Fuck.
Oh yeah. Board stack this morning?
Yeah it's up. I don't I don't think though.
That happens. The real debate underneath those
those overpasses and stuff like you.
It's very much a smaller scenario than that.
It's again, we see that there's a common theme in this stuff.
It's that these people are generally just unhappy people, I
believe body dysmorphia is exists.
Why wouldn't it right? I believe that.
We've honestly sigh opt everybody into thinking there's
something wrong with you. Women have to deal with that
with with you know, stick skinny.
Models and shit like that, that was always a thing for a long
time. Men have to deal with that with
testosterone and shit. If you're on the right wing, all
that stuff, everybody's taught to think that you're born in the
wrong body now slobs going to like what I'm saying here.
And I'm not a religious man but a lot of people are saying likes
fucking go dude. I'm not gonna not a religious
man but I do understand that that like I'm who I am for a
reason. And I think when you when you
basically strip all When you strip everything away
theological from a society, even though there's definitely
problems with organized religion and stuff.
Absolute knees. When you strip everything
theologically away from a society, you then put pressure
on an 82 year lifespan to get everything, right?
Everything needs to be right. I need to look this way because
I feel this way I need to do this.
There's no like, you know what? If I don't get it right in this
lifetime, I'm gonna get it right in the next one.
There's never that one. There's never that situation.
So we're seeing all these people scrambling thinking that
everything's wrong. With them and it needs to be
corrected. By the time I die or else, I'm
going to die before the time I die.
I love that. Damn, the grace.
Yeah, so I don't if that made any sense, I was just like,
yeah, it's know. That's a thing of.
Yeah, we're faced with their own mortality.
And we and that's yeah, for the covid thing to shot clock.
It's like basketball. So shocked, I have to get a shot
off. I had where I gonna do.
Yeah, I have to give it take, I have to do, you know.
Yeah, and arms. Nothing, our general Generations
thing. As we were told like, you're
going to make an impact. That's where all the fucking
After this class, you know, like that you're gonna change the
world and it's like why we like I get like the thing is we're
like we are but we're not in any way that's moving.
The need to jack off, five times a day, inside your house and
then change the world. Yeah I get those numbers up.
Yeah this is like we were talking about earlier with like
like what the United States is even for like we don't have any
coherent understanding of what the future were like.
Moving towards is supposed to even be like I'm not talking
about like I'm not, I mean we have an explanation which is
like just eschaton being peddled by Bill Nye and AOC of like 12
years left to live before you know fuck the beach comes to you
bitch. They love to put a timer on you
every single time these people love.
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
But there's no, there's no higher ideal.
There's no goal working towards. There's, there's, there's
nothing like you take the Fucking future away from people.
It's like it's fucking it's fucking horrible.
Like all those articles you see now of like, you know,
scientists warned not to get attached to any future plans or
and it's all like this now is fix it, you know, to me.
Yeah, yeah I think that too just like completely, I mean, okay,
look right. Does it, does it have to be
Christianity? Why does it have to be Hinduism?
Does it have to? I don't think so.
Right? Do does it factor into my
decision making of what I choose when I look at what has a track
record. Yes.
So I choose Christianity, right? But but yeah I mean just yeah,
what you're speaking to, I'm kind of spinning my wheels here
a little bit but what you're speaking to I think is just is
just Completely humongous and and we're really, really
addicted to minimizing risk and of keeping the party going
forever. Yeah.
And it's in every Niche to we like to school.
We gotta scratch every inch. I think, I think that it's
killing us and I think that I think that it creates, you know,
like that gray goo theory of like if you wanted to, if you I
wanted to explore all of space. You would create
self-replicating robots and then self-replicating robots will
grow exponentially and they'll take up all space in existence
in they'll become a grey goo that destroys everything right
awesome. Yeah it was like something
thought up like at Los Alamos in the during the Manhattan Project
I think it was or it was some of those people's guys being dudes
at the album. It just just just like just like
just Boomers parents cooking hot dogs with radiation.
Hiroshima clocked time, it hammers, clicking down in there.
Like wonder if robots of replicated, the gray, goo.
Yeah, yeah, they're just like, they're yeah.
They're just, there's meditating and getting high.
No. But I think about that, that is
what you. Okay, you take out, you, take
out the ethical framework that we had in our society
previously. It, something's going to fill
this vacuum, right. Driving value system.
Capitalist production right? You have you have dictated by
this basically, just this kind of cultivation of consumption
habits. That's what we exist for, right?
That's why everything on Netflix is marketed for basically.
Nobody is because it's made for people 12 years from now.
Like it's teaching us what we're supposed to wants consumers.
It is right. You see this in the individual
subject basically just becomes this like gluttonous, like
Bronze Age, pervert kind of refers to it as like a yeast,
man. Yeast is this base form of life
that just wants to spread, right?
It just spreads, that's it, right?
That's, that's kind of what people almost are these days.
I mean, I feel the drive him myself, a lot of the time of
just, like, of people just And a veg out and just maximize their
amount of content consumption, we call aren't content now,
right? And, and I think that, I think
that transgenderism who tying it back baby.
Yeah. Um, is this approach to life and
of the the pain and open wound of what it is to be a person,
right? What what happens to that in
this Godless consumerist capitalist Society?
Transgenderism is the response is the response to Identity that
system creates in my opinion of of I need everything all the
time. That's what all of this is.
So that's what my identity is going to be right.
And as a scientist, a quick side note, before I hit it back to
you guys. I also think that like it's
driven by market trends just globally by structures because
women are just simply better consumers than men are.
At the very least for like female-to-male.
You can basically just double the amount of goods that are
being marketed to this. Oh, so you're I've not heard
this one. So you think, I mean, obviously,
we know this, right, men. Well, we need is a mattress with
a blanket on top of it and exactly ITV and not stuff.
Maybe three shirts, which is true.
This is all True by beneath this but if you were to be, yeah, I
see. I have not thought about what
kinds of beer in the fridge them shirts in the closet,
absolutely? I got about seven different, PA
is in the fridge right now. But anyways, you have you have
women who obviously you have makeup, you have all these
things. You have wigs, you know, ones to
fit a massive head and then the, the other, all these other
things that you're going to need?
Yeah. You could w.
I mean have course you think you think fucking, you know, wig
manufacturing companies. Like I love this.
You know. And and and so I had that's very
interesting. I thought about that.
Now I have one thing to tie this all the way.
Back together. Oh, all the way back to the
start of this podcast. So now Okay, let's say this.
Now, the left the left is lava, much the yeah we do.
We do swear lie, I pledge allegiance to the left 9ct,
America. And the, the DSA called me up.
As soon as I posted that, I quit my job and they're like, hey
man, you need me. How can we help?
I know this is difficult. You need emotional support?
Yeah. Put a wig on Homer Simpson with
the Goofy and see what happens. What do you mean?
Anyways, the so about this. I was laughing about now, when
you're, when you're To get vaccinated at work.
I saw is not so much with your case, but I've seen it with a
lot of other cases. Oh, nurses are getting fired.
So, and so are getting fired. And you'll see the leftist new
thing will, they could just get the vaccine and stop all this.
Like, that's always their their, their hedge.
Now. Apply that to like anything
else, right? Because it's true.
You could just get the vaccine and keep your job.
That's, that's true. We agree with that.
I mean, yeah, that could have happened.
Okay. What if your job made you pick a
gender? Yeah.
So now if you were to say okay like but I am this gender.
Okay but to keep your job you just need to say you're a man.
And you know what I mean? Oh, but I can't do that.
It's against my Martin. What?
I'm a woman, I'm this and that, okay, yeah.
But that's, that's fine. Here's the thing.
It's a private company. They're allowed to say that you
need to be this and you get into that thing where it's like,
okay, why is my take of not wanting to get a Pfizer shot,
just so controversial, where it's like, oh my God, all this,
this kind of thing. But then I'll all said, and all
I hear is trans women there, evicted from houses at a higher
rate there. They're fired at a higher rate
and they commit suicide at a higher rate.
And it's like, well, I'm not saying that they need to do
this, but if you just simply declared something else, maybe
you could have alleviated all those problems.
How does that sound? Well?
So this is such an interesting one, right?
Because because then you'll because because the answer they
do, right? Is they say, this is who they
are, right? Like yeah.
Like, I mean, I mean, basically like this, this Transcendent
truth, like, God is within the self.
In their world view. Basically, right?
My truth who I truly am, right? It's this is Adam.
This is this is a non rational concept for talking about.
Now, this is where we stepped into it, right here is the the
absolute truth is that I am this person.
You can't just say that it's a choice, right?
This is this is real, right? And then, and then the front.
And then the funny thing of course is, you know, I'm not,
I'm personally, not getting the vaccine because plenty of
reasons and not really religious ones I'll say.
But hey, if I was to, you know, you pursue a religious exemption
at work right? People fucking hate that, they
freak out at you for denying it in that way.
And that is just very funny because this is just this kind
of conflict between the old and the new and In that way, like
this dislike, this tradition, that you, that you are a part of
this that is greater than you this this religious tradition
that they can drive you to make this decision in your life that
they don't accept of, you know, that is.
It's constricting of the individual, it results in less
choices. Less Market choices.
Certainly, I know that the literally not allowed to make
Market choices. Right now.
Anyways that was just those just kind of a thought I had on that.
No no I think you're right. I think you're right.
I think they're just my thing is like well you could just get
this. You could just do this.
Yeah. There are a lot of things that
you could just do but it ends up basically making you somebody
that you're not right. And I, and that's where I might
empathize with somebody who thinks they're a different
gender who thinks they're this. Who, who claims this?
I might empathize with that but there is no solidarity between
the two. I guess I will tell you this.
I think anybody who relies on HRT, like you hormone
replacement therapy to be who they are.
Of course, they're going to understand why somebody wants to
implement Pfizer because they rely on Pharmaceuticals to be
who they are. The road is paved.
So to speak dude. That's a pretty good.
That's a pretty good patronage system.
You got going on there isn't exactly.
It's I mean what better Pharma soldier ever then somebody to
who be like hey I didn't kill myself because of these And you
see that with the live women on ssris and well, I mean with
yeah. Yeah.
Like it's more than just transgenderism that I'm saying.
Yeah. I mean yeah I mean look like if
we're looking for if I'm sure that there are exceptions to
this, but I think it probably as a general rule like if you're
looking for solidarity in somebody who is like, who's like
warped their body based on like the ideology of the ruling class
like I think I think that that's kind of like a level of
investment that's kind of hard to like come back from like if
you think you can red pill that person or something like I guess
you're welcome to try but like I think oh the pill I'm taking now
is red. Sure.
Yeah. There it is.
Yeah, I guy I see what you're saying.
I seriously like, I mean, I'm not looking for solidary.
I'm looking for you to leave me the fuck alone.
I'll leave you the fuck alone business, bro.
And like, as far as far as the choice thing goes, I think that
this is like a really great area where I think that the the thing
that I think these like, nrx fellas that we were talking
about earlier. I think that they've nailed the
best is basically just trying to like Break Americans out of
this. Spelled are under of only ever
thinking of like politics in a very formalized way while we
live under a system that is very like informal.
By the way, people think about it and so basically right what's
happening? I mean I've see I'm sure you
guys have seen and I assume there's no covid Take that.
I've seen that. You two haven't seen these
people. These people that say, you know,
there is no mandate To even say that there's a mandated worst
take what mandate well write that.
Well, that's like, that's just a phase for every issue these
days. They post a John Travolta, meme
in the room by himself or the Will Smith meme by himself in
the room. John Travolta by himself in the
room. There's the I'm looking for the
Mandate, there's nothing there. Yeah, I mean it's nothing there
and and, and this is like bright like the whole thing.
Like bro, you could just choose to do it, dude.
You just choose to do it dude. Like there is no man.
And a there was never any any this was never authoritarian.
If it was, if it was anything short of someone, kicking down
your door and putting their fucking boot on your throat,
dude. There's there's nothing between
pure autonomy of this individual subject or, you know, fucking
the brown shirts, kicking down your fucking door and putting a
gun in your mouth like and then and then when Put it in those
terms. I mean like yes, these people
are just obviously liberals, these people just obviously
liberals and and they just end there just more irritating
looking and like and where around fucking hammer and sickle
shirts. They got it Hot Topic.
Like a girl with a Ramones shirt like thank you.
Leave me alone a metaphor. I love it.
I love the Ramon sir metaphor. Oh, absolutely, yeah, it's
fucking, it's fucking hilarious. And so, and so yeah.
Like I mean, this idea Of just still trying to kill people on
look like this shit doesn't work in this kind of formalized way
that you're always expecting because you're because what's
going to happen is you're always going to be expecting that.
It's just never going to come and your heads going to be
spinning. 10 years later like it has been for the past 10 years.
Yeah, I mean it's a fucking joke, dude.
You just, you just choose to get it.
Jesus Christ, man. Do you make the one choice that
I'm pigeonholing you into getting and backing you in the
corner to make. You just have to make that one
choice. When everybody else gets
infinite choices for anything. When you decide I want to be,
they this month, I want to be she this month.
That's fine. The problem is I just want to be
unboxed forever like that. That's the problem for me.
I don't want it. I don't want to get this shit.
Why don't you just let me? Why don't you just let me die.
II. Said he shirts were like, fuck
it, die. Then I've seen one where there's
a syringe it's an animated syringe and it's almost like Mad
Magazine style and it says like it's a syringe with a face on it
and the liquids coming out and it says fuck it just died then
I'm like yes Because they do we won't that's the thing.
They know they like a deep down. They may not on the surface
level but on a subconscious level they know.
That's not gonna happen for 99.9.
Yeah, nine, yeah. Oh dude, for sure for sure but
that's but that's I mean this again, like I think just kind of
comes back to the the I think I think that this is a great
example of tying it back to, you know, the Jordan BP, Jesse
Jesse, leave Jordan be hard, being Peterson.
Jordan Peters. I don't know why I'm including
the B Jordans. I could understand Georgie
leafeaters. Yeah.
Hey y'all. This is like not not falling
into the Trap that he does of just trying to do business as
usual liberalism in response to fundamentally illiberal or non
rationalists arguments and actors.
Right? Right.
So, Like, yep. There you go.
I did. I also kind of did that to buy
myself time because the hamsters dying in the wheel a little bit
here. Absolutely.
I smoke weed, while I record these things and sometimes it
gets real sign. I have to dive to not do that.
I literally have to stop myself from doing that because I will
do this exact same. Like, I will, I will be like,
what was it? Bro, certain episodes.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it goes back and work.
Yeah. No like, no.
But anyways, it's a The bright. The point is, is talking about
bodily autonomy, right? Like you see a lot of these
takes specifically with like the abortion stuff has been going
on. Yeah, lately to is, you know,
the argument for pro-choice is a very liberal one, right?
Personal autonomy, my body, my choice, got a yacht.
And so you see a lot of like, a normie cons trying to like, dunk
on people like my body, my choice.
That's what I thought, right? Yeah.
And again, it's just like, well yeah, I mean like this is Fun
for my own self satisfaction for my own satisfaction.
All even do those same jokes, right.
Right. Because it's fun right?
But like, come on guys. Like every single time we do
this, they just respond by saying.
Oh no. I just pick and choose when I
play by those rules. Yeah.
In fundamentally at the core like they're they're, they're
deeply ill liberal when it comes to Doling out there fucking
Authority on their political adversaries.
And honestly, I mean, I don't even really Blame them for it.
This is just where, like yeah, like, bro.
Like, I have no Illusions about making the argument in favor of
personal autonomy against these people.
Because these people don't have a coherent, consistent
worldview, you know, like know are their worldview.
You don't have to be coherent when you side with the state
man. You don't have to do it, you
don't have to, you don't have to be coherent, you don't have to
like it's crk. Does it beautifully?
I think. Any post about this is like
Biden. I hate the leftists are like
Biden lied about. This doesn't matter, doesn't
matter if you lied about it, does it.
He's Empower, you one. He can lie about, he can lie
about wanting the buses segregated back in 1967.
It does not matter. It doesn't matter what the only
time you have to, you know, cross your t's and Dot your I's
is when your dissenting right. When you're when you're against
the state ideology, you have perfect.
We have to be perfect. They're allowed to be anecdotal
when it comes to science. Yeah, they're allowed.
Many such cases. So yeah.
So I got off go off because this is if you think, do you think
that that's why I was going to ask you?
Do you think that's why people that you don't need to have a
coherent framework? Is that like a it's easier that
way, right? And it's easy to not have to
think about these things and to not have to be to be to put up
with being wrong. And I'm going to pass real fast
boys. Go ahead.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
And like, like you like you like, you slav, like,
potentially being alienated by your.
You're try, but I'm not saying like your co-workers or your
tribe but in some sense they are, you know, I know in a very
practical way you interact with every day.
It's yeah, especially yes especially during this pandemic
when we're just it's either the people we work with and the
people were living with or anything and it's I don't know,
it just seems so I think I think I mean there's a lot of smart
people that I think are are getting taking the easy way out
and not, not trying to think about this stuff on purpose
because they know, you know, first of all you can be wrong,
which is scary. And Yeah.
Yeah, so like so earlier, you guys brought up this point,
right about you guys were talking about, like, you know,
these like smart people online that just do the thing of like,
whatever. Like this is just capitalism or
like or like like like you see an issue in like whatever.
Like this is actually like a form of exploitation that's been
going on for a hundred plus years.
Right. Yeah.
And it's like and what I was kind of going to say to that
right? Is that like their right?
A lot of the time, right? But it's the it's the perfect
Fusion of like you're identifying that there's a
pattern like a system a pattern that you think will continue and
it is continuing here, your pattern is bearing out here but
you're mixing that with the social, like, kind of desire to
be the cool guy who's above everything and just like,
doesn't it isn't freaking out about the latest issue.
What L you guys are freaking out about that?
Like, I'm cool as a cucumber who cares, like?
Yeah, this is all Let some right and likely and it's pattern
recognition mixed with like just irritating.
Cool things. People do detached drop.
Oh, irony. Yeah.
It's right. Exactly.
Like the most, the most useless type of person, right.
Because okay. You oh, great, you understand
it, how we fix it and they're like, oh, I don't know.
And I'd argue that it's useful. Yeah, I'd argue it's useful to
think that way, not to those people but to people in power
it's like this is my, these are, these are my dissenters.
These people that don't give a shit these people that are down
to Be locked down in their house.
These people that are down to be subject to a human experiment on
inoculating versus a damn fucking respiratory flu.
Like these people are down and they're going to fight this
white when I bring up. When I bring up transgender
ideology. They're going to say, why do you
even care dude? You know what I mean?
When you know I actually think that there are useful is that is
the irony you know, leftist people.
Like they I mean I understand why countries.
Maybe maybe we all fall under the problem of making our
twittersphere bigger than it really is.
But okay, it's still a petri dish.
I still see this shit trickle into mainstream media.
Like, I think Tucker Carlson has like a, I think you guys said it
on. One of your episodes recently
was like, I think Tucker Carlson has like a 75 follower account.
Oh, I'm on Twitter to like just scour through this shit because
you see the shit that we talked about on Twitter.
He'll talk about that shit like at least on a and kind of maybe
funnel it to Boomers in a way that they can understand, but
you'll see that and then Tucker's basically doing What we
do, which is like talking about the time, I was the very least
I'm Riders do for sure. Yeah.
He probably he might have a he might have a soldier.
Yeah he might have a soldier in the field.
Yeah. And so and so that's that's it
will in all even go so far. As to say, I think that just
individually. It can be helpful because at a
certain point, it's a self-defense mechanism.
If I don't necessarily blame someone who has thought, at
least at least the baby steps far enough.
To go. Oh, I'm just going to have a
sense of ironic Detachment as opposed to being the person
who's like getting on the emotional roller coaster and
freaking out every every fucking week.
Oh my God. AOC was almost raped.
Oh my god. Oh, the move area.
Know the Delta like, oh my God, just just like, just maxing out
on Being Earnest. Also, obviously has some reels
hazards Associated to it so like I can even understand why people
would go in that direction, right?
Right. Oh yeah.
I was there. I was there.
I agree! Absolutely!
It's a spiritual death. But yeah.
All this is brought up bring all of this up.
Just to say that I I sigh what was your original question?
Because it's like I was I was going to say that I that whole
thing of Life of like, yeah, what was the original question
you were asking me? What do we get when you went to
bathroom Glen fuck. All right.
No, no, no, no, it's like right on the tip of my tongue.
Are we talking about? Yeah, I can't help you guys with
this hat. I now, hold on.
I was hoping this is just let me just say that.
Yeah, Correct. Well, yeah, but you were, you
were saying we were talking about purse.
I know we were talking about personal like, bodily freedom
and then you had brought oh, dude, like the are you talking
about? It's easier to like, there's a
lot of smart people that are just taking the easy way out and
because they don't want to have to have the wrong take because
having the really don't know, you don't know, totally,
totally, right. So, what I was going to thank
you. You nailed it, right?
So, you're saying, like, people just kind of people just kind of
Of like withdraw and kind of go with the heard a little bit.
Yeah, right. Yeah.
Okay. So I bring up that I'm getting a
little bit. I was getting a little big for
my britches with those seemingly.
Non-sequitur things I'm saying if I'm going to lose my train of
thought, I brought it up to say right when people just go oh
whatever. This is just a long-standing
pattern. Ha ha.
I'm so clever. I'm going to make one of those
points which is that I think that we're just kind of seeing
in real I'm like yeah, why like secular rationalism liberalism
is not is not Superior to religion.
Religion has been so effective for so long and when the, the
main issue, if I was to do it, if I was too, when I quit my
job, the other day, right? If I was to fucking turn to my
fucking manager and go, what do this fucking bullshit?
Have you seen the numbers? Israel, dude.
But we're talking about it for months drop-off and efficacy,
bro. Oh, they're gonna fucking do
Klaus Schwab, man. They're gonna do certainly our
words. Yeah.
Yeah, fucking Clockwork elves, man.
Like, I, I'm going to look like a fucking idiot, right?
And I can have, I can have all of the correct facts, and I can
beat them at their own game. I can beat them with facts and
logic. In a well-constructed argument
and peer-reviewed, there was no debunking on any of my sources,
right? But at the end of the day,
they're siding with their side because they have the consensus.
They have the consensus. All of the numbers are with
them, they have the consensus and that's what it is.
There's a, there's an assurance you get through that.
And absolutely, which is the insurance we're looking for
right as anti-vaxxers, right? We're looking for that one
person that agrees with us, like, hey, maybe you can help
me. Me stay solid on my journey to
bodily autonomy. Maybe you can help me and size
been through this forever. He's but bolangir than both of
us, he's been the type of guy. Now, I don't know if we've ever
had the spotlight on us. Like like like we see now I
don't know if that's ever happened but it's I can attest
to this in the same way. I'll give you the platform here.
It's the same concept you've caught you have.
Yeah. And right where other people are
scared to be right with you because they have the state
ideology behind them and they're like well even if I'm Wrong.
I'm right. Just by group think there was a
yeah those are we don't have to get into it too much but like
specifically but there I was somewhat of an activist in
college kind of on Loan Data. But anyways going.
And yeah, well to the point well I use this not like the fucking
show with Usher, you know, like that.
Yeah. But with you know where I was
like, you know, it was on some, you know, some accurate like
like coh, toxic on some agriculture Monsanto stuff.
I'm like, You know, it's like okay it's easy to say that you
can see to go along with the herd and say, oh yeah, you know,
this stuff is perfectly safe. These people are but it was,
these corporations are benign, nothing bad's happening.
And yeah, I was kind of putting it out there being like this is
not okay like everyone. You know.
There are tons of people that disagree with this including
tons of scientists blah blah. Yeah.
And I would have like professors emailing me and being like Oh
totally agree with you just can't say anything you know,
just like a can give. Job or whatever.
Wow. People like tenure and stuff and
it's not happening now is like yeah.
Like yeah. Like this is first of all this
is not the place for me, you know, in terms of like if this
is like if this is your career is basically you're making 200k
a year teaching dumbass, you know, college kids and you're
scared to be real about that shit.
Like, I don't want to be part of this environment at all, you
know? But yeah.
I see the same thing happening and I'm honestly making the same
mistakes this time around. We're because I kind of got out
of that game because I was like, same thing.
It was like, Okay. It was where you try and talk to
them with. Yeah, like Shapiro fact, you
know, with facts and logic where you like, yeah.
Like the Klaus Schwab thing, you know, we bring that up and, and
it doesn't work and they think they think you're a fucking
insane person, right? And then I started, you know,
think and then I was like, okay, I'm done with that, and never
doing that again, and then, boom, covid rolls around.
And we're forced to have these were forced to have these
conversations. It's not like we choose to, you
know, it's like we're talking, you know, we're at this given.
We're talking to our family or your mom.
Facetimes you were whatever. And like, what you're describing
of like somebody having an incentive within like, in their
place, in a large institution and like, just like them being
kind of constrained by that in the decisions they're making is
like the best case scenario to like when we're talking, like
you're just talking about like talking to your fucking like
like when we're all talking to our parents or if I can go to go
into Thanksgiving or like in a lot of cases not going to
Thanksgiving with our parents. Like that's not like This is
willing, this is this is a this is a willing decision that these
people are making and right. That's that to me is my single
biggest spiritual challenge. That I have been working on
through this entire experience is not is honestly just like not
hating normies, is just like a not hating these people for
being victims of this. I didn't, I don't mean to take
it in a totally different direction.
No, because I fall too deeply into the hole.
Fuck it. No one understands me kind of,
you know, that kind of like, you know what I mean.
We're think. Yeah.
And it, and now it's bet, you know this, honestly, this this
project, both our projects have been an outlet.
I feel because they're both roughly the same age and
pandemic or bad a pandemic, baby scheana.
And I guess when I've talked about but you know, we didn't,
we didn't create one. We didn't fuck, we're not gay.
So hey, but but but that's cheating.
There's a folks that for the folks at home, nothing wrong, if
you were nothing wrong with it. If you had sex and created a
pandemic baby with others. Anything wrong.
You know, problem not my past but yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
Yeah, I am getting better at well if it's like yeah, my
second or third, go around with this.
Like with roughly different kind of things.
And I'm, I'm learning to be better at not not being black
build, so to speak. And just be like, you know, no
one understands this or you know, where if right Mark,
people don't get it. How are you?
How is anyone else going to get it?
Kind of thing, you know, how are we going to convince how we're
going to change the institutions?
And I see people, you guys know people like Brent Weinstein and
Eric Weinstein. And their whole thing is like,
you know, they're like Boomers, who had a midlife Awakening
right now. Like, oh, maybe actually in the
institutions are corrupt like, whoa, you know, it's like a
door, it's a pretty adorable, you know, but it's just funny
watching, it's funny watching it happen and you know, like that
seems like he's like the finance director for Peter.
I feel like, you know, it's like one big, like trust Eric,
Weinstein, did that kind of snake, man, you totally is and
then and then and then I feel like Brett Weinstein is just so
fucking naive that like he, like literally had to be chased off a
college campus by like a hair of like a Lynch Mob of blue hairs
here. Dude, I am like I'm I'm sitting
in my fucking epic gamer. PC chair.
Like squeezing. My legs together so I don't piss
myself. I need to hold on one sec.
Yeah. Finishing up a few.
Yeah. Go ahead.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Funny thing about, Brett
Weinstein, is that like, like, I like him obviously, like, I
think he's really good. But the funniest thing is that
he liked actually believes that 0 covid still exists like, which
is hilarious. Yeah, he thinks Ivermectin makes
zero covid it which is like he's the worst mix of which is, which
is like a legit harmful. Take like, it's not, it's not
good. Like it's a treatment.
We First and the virus is going to be here forever.
I respect it could be a treatment to this shit.
If we got, you know what we need done.
If we were able to get safe access to actual non horse,
paste Ivermectin. If we were able to get that that
going this guy's like yeah we will eliminate covid.
I don't want to who cares? We're not eliminating covid.
It's not going to happen. It's a fucking flew like yeah
yeah yeah. I like I think I think that
there's like honestly like fucking suddenly a lib a steak a
little bit. I feel like there's Nothing like
a little bit sketchy about about Weinstein sometimes.
Like I don't know I kind of in i ties into what we were saying is
like you very often see these jbp like this guy from Sonic
behind me understands way more about transgenderism, I think.
And and therefore and just he's the guy that like if you were to
show him like hey there's this new thing.
And Weinstein will try to academically find a way to make
this new thing fit because that's what people were taught
in like academic institutions is like okay here's this new thing.
I need you to make it fit into your career and ideology and
you're either going to bounce. You're either going to be like,
no, no, that's not gonna happen in.
Here's 58. Historical references.
Why and then or it's like, well, this could work because the de
and that's the debate between these two people.
When really, you just need the Sonic guy behind me which if you
like yeah. Nah, you know I mean you need
that person like and And that's why I don't like that's why I
like when you see the bright wine since they want to they
want to be like well the paybacks Nation.
Oh My Gosh. Great thing.
Here's the thing right now with this it right?
No no like I just the Poindexter approach you posted the other
day. You just said I'm anti-vaccine.
I made me so happy. I was like you know what?
Just fucking say it, everyone that you hate that you're scared
of pissing off already thinks you are just do it.
Fuck it dude. Yeah, just be anti-vaccine if
well didn't get the covid, shot your anti-vaccine.
Is lean into it. You just lean into the to the
in-group out-group signifier and also I'll be totally fucking
honest with you guys. And you, I feel like you'll be
thrilled to hear this like this whole experience has honestly.
Just like I had never been anti-vaccine the past this
entire experience has, just made me really skeptical the entire
thing to begin with and that and then and then because of
everything going on the rabbit holes, you go down and
everything like I start just kind of stumbling upon stuff
incidentally, that it's just Of changing my mind about the, the
issue. Generally now I'm not going to
say not an isolated thing. I'm alright.
Don't let mRNA the the controlled opposition to mRNA is
like, well, this is mRNA other things would be different, okay?
Even look at Novak Novak sets. Coming out, Novak's is a thing
that a lot of the even some right-wingers I've seen like,
well, let's wait for no evacs because that actually vaccinate,
it's a traditional vaccine against coronavirus, Mike?
Okay. If you look at the composition
of Novak's. What it does is it still a spike
protein forward vaccination? Which we realize that's the
problem because then you get to a Deus.
I am I right here you get to a D&E from that Spike protein,
think that you get the Leaky vaccine from that.
That's the real problem that's why.
When like, even as anti-vaxxers we can't even like it sucks,
man. Because you want to what you
what you want your take to be. As I don't care what you do,
what I do is my own thing, that's what we want.
That's what we want to be. As anti-vaxxers problem is do
these people are making covid worse.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if I maybe like a like a
hippie for half a second, I really think a lot of it, we a
lot you on to be happy on. Yeah.
You know, it's just like some not to get weird with it but
this is straight up some Law of Attraction shit.
We're all we focus on is covid and it's not going to go away
when you obsess about it as a society for fucking, every every
screen is talking about it. Everyone's that, you know, even
just from that angle. On the metaphysical, ankle covid
is never going away. You know what I mean?
And it's a course. The vaccines are making it
worse. It's so obvious.
Yeah. Any of the whole covid, the
fucking hyper-real exactness. That like, yeah, dude, it's
omnipresent, it's everywhere. People still think that you can
breathe it onto surfaces. Therefore, everything around you
is covid. Fuck, fuck, just stay inside
your house, stay inside your house.
Yes of a flu. And, you know, to wrap this up
here, crk is right. When the fact that like this
Lockdown thing is useful. I think the fact that the, the
fact that people were able to stay in their house for a year
and a half is not unuseful, it's not is not a situation where
like, oh, that's a one-time thing.
I fully agree that we've already set the precedent that like, we
can shut down Society whenever we want to.
I believe that, that that's the thing.
The thing I tell, the people just to tie it back to slob
quitting his job and and and the reason we're having this
somewhat of a impromptu episode with this is take the white pill
take take the white pill. The problem is, is stand your
ground, like stand, literally stand, like stand there and be
like, don't say I'm waiting on this waiting on this.
I'm waiting on that. No, just tell him you're not
doing it. You're not do it.
The more people that just say I'm not doing it.
We're not nothing in this, in the society and I, every podcast
I listened to, and I think maybe we're even guilty of it is to
say that the plebs are just useless.
We're not useless for us to say, for us to say we're not taking
this right for, for some for, you know, immigrants to be,
like, I'm not taking this. I'm, we're not doing this.
This isn't going to happen. This is not why I came to
America to be forced shots into my arms.
This is not why this happened. We need to keep.
We need to keep that going and I understand certain material
conditions factor into people's decision on that.
I understand the fact that maybe getting a shot helps you feed
your kids for now and that's what happens.
I'm not your exempt on that people with kids are on their
own, but to anybody who's the reason we brought slav on here
is to maybe Inspire some people who were on the fence about
quitting their job right about this kind of stuff.
I think, I think that was the main thing we talked about, you
know, simulations of what you would do in this situation.
You had the real thing. You did the real thing.
You said, you know what, I'm not getting this, it's not going to
happen. And I think what you did is you
through your job a curveball, because they thought you'd get a
hunt. They, I guarantee you, they
thought they'd get 100% compliance.
I don't think they expected you to quit.
Yeah, based yeah. No.
I mean, given given the circumstance that I had
described a little bit and everything I think that that's
the case. Yeah, I also think that there's
potentially a chance that I would have been able to force.
It has an exemption I so it there's a lot of ways in which I
feel really lucky in the details of my situation.
And you know obviously you know it's not a super hard time to
find a job right now, I didn't have the most incredible job to
begin with. I'm doing.
Alright. Financially with just back up
funds and everything and I can definitely understand like you
know I don't have kids I don't have a lot of Bill's hanging
over my head every month. So I'm very fortunate in that
way, but but I mean it's just it's just funny because I mean
if someone were to like ask me to expand on just like how I
feel about my decision or anything like that.
Like if I was being interviewed by competent people, not ours.
Yeah. Like you're not.
Yeah. It would like I don't like
regret it even slightly. I mean the idea that I made it,
you know, I feel I feel really happy with my situation and I
can't say I know for a fact that I wouldn't have been able to say
that. If I had been manipulated into
getting the vaccine. I think you would have been
driven to kill yourself and I am, from what I've heard about
transgender is a giant transgenderism, is that if you
make somebody commit to something that they aren't, they
might kill themselves. So anyways, that's it for her.
That's it for us anyways, so sloth, thanks for joining us.
Bad post patreon.com the FED post I'm a patriot you should be
too. And yeah, maybe I'm sure this
won't be the last of our meetings I would imagine.
And and yeah, this is a rare candy.
We're at rare candy pod one. He's at kryptos, i-i'm at Glen
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Well, thank you so much for coming on, always after thank
you, glad? Yeah, dude, it's a pleasure
boys. Yeah, thanks for thanking me,
but thanks for thinking me. By the way, it took almost 99
episodes for you to thank me to see.
How can I ever sold? 100 is going to be our next one.
That's going to be real fun. Okay, am I am I 99 your 99 dude,
you know. 99 Ranch guarded 102. If you want to just do it, dude.
I'm just like their, I know you, I know you said you're going to
be doing some stuff so if you if it's okay let me know if if not
I understand I'll say I'll say it's not a it's not a 100% quite
yet, but I think you and the audience will be surprised to
hear my schedule recently opened up in a really major way.
So I might be able to swing it now, episode 99, Ranch Market in
the books. We recall, this one's called,
what is this? And all the CCI I just I love
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looking picture of Xi Jinping. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, we got it. We got it, I'll leave it up to
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With a PHA, go with the with the beautiful clown makeup.
That's it for us guys. Fantastic.
Hey, you know what? These are some of the most fun
episodes talking about shit like this.
Everybody have a good safe week. Episode 100 is next after this
one, that's going to be a real fun.
One possibly some surprise guests for you guys.
So everybody, again, have a nice week.
All right, guys.