1 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,440 Yeah, from the five to the six, we be in the mix with that rare 2 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,800 candy paint job on the web. I need food for the kids, money 3 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:19,920 for the rent. Fuck a lockdown baby. 4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,920 I can't do that shit and I'll never vote 'cause I'm fucking 5 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,280 broke and either way I know the police ain't gonna leave me 6 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,120 alone on a plane by the physical and rock me. 7 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,320 Crypto told me I should be in the Glock with me, so I packed 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,240 up my piece and I'm sliding slide 'cause we might get caught 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,680 up in a riot. Middle finger trunk, middle 10 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,880 finger biting fucker. Left fucker right as you riding 11 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:43,560 you let us see it. Those rocking, you know politics 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:44,760 baby. We just talking. 13 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,040 From the birds to the bricks, we be in the mix with the rare 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,240 candy paint job on the web. Who you with? 15 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:54,960 You know, I've been, I've been singing the rare candy theme 16 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,200 song in the shower. That's real. 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,320 That's cool. I've been doing like the Halo, 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:59,960 like I'm not going to do it here. 19 00:00:59,960 --> 00:01:01,600 I'm not going to crune on air. But you know, I'm saying like 20 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:02,520 I've been. I love that. 21 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,480 Don't you dare Crune on here. Don't you fucking dare. 22 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,000 From the five to the six, Yeah, go ahead. 23 00:01:08,320 --> 00:01:08,640 Sorry. Yeah. 24 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,880 Yeah, for sure not. I mean, if you want to keep 25 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,160 going you can, but, well, I. Think this is a good bridge 26 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,000 because Rare Candy has an iconic theme song. 27 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,560 Entourage has an iconic theme song and you don't get that 28 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,760 these days. TV shows have done away with 29 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,720 theme songs. So I I like that. 30 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,040 I appreciate that with your show, Glenn, and thank you for 31 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,480 having me back. I'm so happy that a guy a a 32 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,120 rapper from South Carolina just said we needed a theme song and 33 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,600 he sent it to me. I mean, how lucky did I get 34 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,320 there? I mean, I 0 zero input from me 35 00:01:37,320 --> 00:01:38,960 at all whatsoever and it just landed. 36 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,280 I had nothing to do with it. So that was that was awesome. 37 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,440 But I'm here with two feature feature film directors. 38 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:52,360 So we're covering Entourage seasons 1 through 4. 39 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,120 I have a feeling that when it's time to do from the five to the 40 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,800 six. And, you know, I have a feeling 41 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,280 that when it's time to do that, I can't get these guys again 42 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:01,800 because they're going to be fucking mega stars. 43 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,280 And it's they're going to be like, First off, pick me or 44 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:05,880 Darius. I feel like that's what Laura is 45 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,639 going to say. You don't get both of us, you 46 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,160 know, and they're going to be at can screen, screen again. 47 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:13,640 No, Yeah. No, Yeah. 48 00:02:13,640 --> 00:02:14,480 Come on, DC. Yeah. 49 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:15,640 Don't brag here. Yeah. 50 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,400 Also, I just learned DC, you're shooting your next movie in 51 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,240 Greece. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 52 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,640 absolutely. This is Scott. 53 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,280 It's happening, but for first of all, Jay is going to make it big 54 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,560 before me, that's for sure. That's for sure. 55 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,720 Second of all, I am so excited to be here and I will always 56 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,280 give you the time of day. Glenn, remember those days when 57 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,520 you didn't respond to my DMS? Those days. 58 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,640 That's never happened. What about it's not going to 59 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:40,720 happen in the future then because I will never not 60 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,840 responded to you. Are you confusing it with Monkey 61 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,080 Jones who still won't reply to your DM? 62 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,960 Literally everybody online except my close friends fuck 63 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,400 out. Of here I I dude. 64 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,680 No one wants to talk people. Message me before they reply to 65 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,080 you. They're like, is this guy OK? 66 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,120 Is he all right? I'm a little concerned about 67 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,720 some of his posts here. He's more than OK, He's more 68 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,480 than. Well, First off, no, no, but we 69 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,960 haven't had a chance to. What is TS Cam? 70 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,120 What is that? I mean, I I know what it's your 71 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,600 feature film, but I what is I You have you're always 8 plates. 72 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,600 TS can't like there's I don't what it like What is I Obviously 73 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:16,760 don't spoil your movie or. Anything. 74 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,640 No, no, there's I'm I'm happy to quickly just go over it if you 75 00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:22,040 want. Basically, it's a yeah. 76 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,160 It's my first film. It's a feature film I sent to a 77 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:25,960 few people. Glen, I'm scared. 78 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,840 I don't think I don't know what kind of movies you watch. 79 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:28,800 I don't want to. I don't want. 80 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,560 To say that you think you think I haven't seen anything. 81 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,640 So yeah. I mean, I mean, that's true as 82 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:34,120 well. But at the same time, it's like, 83 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,320 yeah, it's the first film here. Very nice shot here in Montreal, 84 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,320 QC, Canada, about a painter who can't get out of 2006. 85 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,120 What do you what? Do you? 86 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:43,440 I see you in my movie? How about? 87 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,480 That yeah, I had to ask. Yeah, I'm very selective and I 88 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,880 like, I like to go in tears of viewership. 89 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,880 You weren't coming up. Yeah, I was like, I was like, 90 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,640 hey, can I can I, can I watch your movie? 91 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,080 He's like, yeah, just don't fucking don't you dare show a 92 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:57,880 thing. But I'm like, dude, I'm not. 93 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,720 Great move. Glenn's asking me about my movie 94 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,040 then cutting me off right when I start talking about awesome. 95 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:03,800 Who's that? Remind you who's that remind you 96 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:04,440 of? Yeah. 97 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,760 Anyway, tell me about it, OK? No, no, it's, it's all right. 98 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,040 Yeah. It's a big, big movie, big 99 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,800 movie, huge movie, slow cinema, shot here in Montreal with great 100 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,560 actors I believe. Some of which first timers Jay 101 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,399 didn't like one of them, but that's the point. 102 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,920 Of one guy. Honestly, he's gross every time 103 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,960 he popped up. He's one of my best friends, but 104 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,960 he's disgusting on the film. He's so gross. 105 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,480 Like I want to puke the whole way through. 106 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,520 Very, very like the essence of the loser who can't accept any 107 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,760 responsibility and just keeps going and being like, yo, the 108 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,760 world's again. I, I, I think it works perfectly 109 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,200 fine. Anyways, the movie's the movie. 110 00:04:35,280 --> 00:04:36,680 He's fantastic. Yeah, Glenn, you're going to, 111 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,080 you're going to fucking, you're going to blow your socks off, 112 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:39,400 bro. You love. 113 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,760 It would love to see it, would be honored to watch it. 114 00:04:41,840 --> 00:04:44,720 Honestly, DC's got some beautiful shots in the movie. 115 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,840 He's got a very interesting editing style. 116 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,520 You know, DC is one of the young up and coming film makers that I 117 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,560 do genuinely respect and I'm excited about what he's going to 118 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,520 be creating in the future. That's so. 119 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,000 You want it, you like you because you would reflexively we 120 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,960 want to like kick his ass a little bit, but I'm like, I 121 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,800 know, I know he's fucking good. That's the thing. 122 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,680 I haven't seen anything, but I know he is because he he 123 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,560 wouldn't bullshit. He wouldn't be the guy that he 124 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,360 is if he didn't turn turn out good shit, because I mean well, 125 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,920 I hope so. I hope, because if I hate it, Oh 126 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:13,440 my God. Well. 127 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:16,640 That's that's the thing as well. And this is very pretentious and 128 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,720 let's let's we can get off this and get to the actual 129 00:05:18,840 --> 00:05:21,360 masterpiece entourage. But really, I think if you feel 130 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,080 strongly, I'm happy whether it's discussed, whether it's born 131 00:05:24,280 --> 00:05:25,560 that that's that's really what I want. 132 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,800 I I would hate to Oh yeah. All right. 133 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:30,640 Yeah. But that that that is can grinds 134 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:31,840 my gears, Peter. Solid effort. 135 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:34,240 Bro it was a solid effort. Bro, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 136 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:35,680 I'm excited to see what you do next. 137 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:36,520 That's yeah. I hate that. 138 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,920 Yeah. Keep grinding bro, but. 139 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,040 No, no, no, it's it's really good. 140 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,840 It's really good. Jay's film as well. 141 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:45,480 Let's, let's we, we can get let's get to it later. 142 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:46,720 It's a mid role. What's? 143 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,840 Yeah, just real fast. What's the plan? 144 00:05:48,840 --> 00:05:51,200 What's the plan of release? Is there a plan of release for? 145 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,920 It yeah, basically it's just going to be like sending out, I 146 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,240 sent out to a bunch of festivals. 147 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,640 I have some connections in the industry now and that doesn't 148 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,040 mean anything, but we'll see. I got a few good responses so 149 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,600 far from like programmers and everything. 150 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:03,920 So I'm, I'm very excited about that. 151 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,440 If none of that pans out still, I'm just going to do a few 152 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,360 screenings here and there and move on to the next one. 153 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,240 You know, I don't, I'm not going to wait for this to blow up 154 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,000 until I do my next movie. So yeah. 155 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:14,800 There you go. Nice. 156 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,840 And and then you guys, last time Low Res was on, which wasn't too 157 00:06:17,840 --> 00:06:19,400 terribly long ago, we were talking about Mass State 158 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,480 Lottery. He's being careful in the way he 159 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,520 releases it, and rightfully so, because I have seen that movie 160 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,400 and I loved it. So you guys should be on the 161 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:28,640 lookout for that. Yeah. 162 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,240 Shout out. Excellent film. 163 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,880 So let's talk about something because this was funny how this 164 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,360 came around a little little behind the scenes, a little 165 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,360 behind the scenes. I reached out to DC and I'm 166 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,000 like, hey, you did tell me the Entourage your favorite show. 167 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,000 I had a little time and I was like, I'll finally watch it 168 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,400 because I completely missed it when it came out and I watched 169 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,040 it and I'm like, hey, do you want to, you know, if I finish 170 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,880 this, you want to come on and all of a sudden I'm in a group 171 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,760 text. I'm in a, I'm in a group, group 172 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,840 chat. But I know the guy who's in it 173 00:06:53,840 --> 00:06:56,200 and he's like, hey, we're all going to kind of do this. 174 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,040 And I'm excited. I'm excited for it because I 175 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,880 have been having a blast watching Entourage and I still 176 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,600 haven't finished it yet because I want to. 177 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,880 I kind of like the whole I've you guys have seen it. 178 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,000 I haven't all the way, but I've watched season 1 through 4. 179 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:15,080 I can't get enough of it. I think it's I'm pretty shocked. 180 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,080 I'm pretty shocked how much I was ready to hate it, to be 181 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:18,800 honest. I was like, oh, this is going to 182 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,120 suck. No, it doesn't. 183 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,600 It's it's wonderful, but I'll kick it off to you, DC. 184 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,800 What? Why is this like just the 185 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,480 masterpiece to you? Well, I, I, I don't know if I 186 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,720 would say necessarily it's a masterpiece that way. 187 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,240 Just nothing else makes me feel like that show, you know, it's 188 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,160 the ultimate parasocial. Because like, you know, when 189 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,680 people say, Oh, I listen to podcasts to, to hang out with my 190 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,080 friends because I don't really have friends. 191 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,640 They, you know, they talk about comedians or, or people like 192 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,800 that and they're not, that's not so interesting of a life. 193 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,160 You're just hating on shit. You're just like, oh, what if 194 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,200 this was this, you know, and, and I have nothing against it, 195 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,640 but Entourage is literally the most crazy lifestyle that you 196 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,200 get to be put into as that like 5th friend. 197 00:07:58,520 --> 00:07:59,920 And it's it's such a great experience. 198 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:01,600 And of course it's a relic of its time. 199 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,000 You know, we have all the the peak American culture and then 200 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,760 the 2000s right there with all the music, with all the shows, 201 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,320 with all the like, it's still old school Hollywood. 202 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,480 They're still producers and stuff like that that aren't just 203 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,640 German guys on freaking Zoom, you know, like that's the that 204 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,000 that sort of stuff is just it's fantastic. 205 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,800 Of course, I love everything about it as well, like the 206 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,800 aesthetic style as well. It's the sense of I want to put 207 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,200 some music in. It's going to be expensive as 208 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,360 shit, but we're going to end the episode with The Rolling Stones. 209 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:28,640 That sort of stuff I like as well. 210 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,559 Like it's it's it's crazy the the music budget on this film on 211 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,600 this series, but I I treat it as a film. 212 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,880 It's like my return Twin Peaks. It's it's just terrific. 213 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,039 So for all these reasons, man, what it's a great show. 214 00:08:40,039 --> 00:08:41,600 It's just a good time. I can put it on an episode 215 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:46,680 anytime and just have a fun time with my buddies Vince, E Drama 216 00:08:46,680 --> 00:08:51,040 and Turtle and sometimes Dom. Sometimes Dom is great, but they 217 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,960 but they definitely I was about done with him by the time they 218 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,240 cast him off, I was like, OK, that's a good thing. 219 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,240 It does is nothing. They know what to throw away is 220 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,640 what I like about that show Every anytime you're like, OK, 221 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,360 I'm about done with this guy. He's gone and it's like it's as 222 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,360 though, as I told Doug Ellen, it's a pair of social things. 223 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,080 I was like, hey, Doug, I'm done, you know, and then and then it's 224 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,440 it's out of there. But then they keep, you know, 225 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,480 the friend group together at least through these first Four 226 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:19,760 Seasons. They keep the friend group 227 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,680 together. And it's just it's just so good. 228 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,320 Low risk. Hey, what about you? 229 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:25,760 Your history with the Did you watch it live? 230 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,600 I did watch it live. I was, I was not like a 231 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,400 religious, I have to tune in every Sunday night or whenever 232 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,400 they they put it on. But it was such a thing because 233 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,640 it's Mark Wahlberg's baby. And obviously I'm from Boston. 234 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,040 So it's it, it was always this like thing in the background of 235 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,480 like, Entourage is what cool people watch. 236 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,320 Entourage is what you want your life to be. 237 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,520 And going back to it for the first time in about 15 years, 238 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,560 it's everything that, you know, DC just said. 239 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:59,160 It's really opening a time capsule from 2004 and getting a 240 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,680 fresh whiff of that. And I didn't realize how ahead 241 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:07,720 of the curve the show was in satirizing aspects of Hollywood. 242 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:15,240 Like there's, there are jokes here in seasons 123 that predate 243 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,720 Tropic Thunder, but I think Tropic Thunder kind of stole the 244 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,240 glimmer of and becomes known for. 245 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,080 And it's like, wow, they nailed it first. 246 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:24,840 And it's here, it's present in this. 247 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,880 And I, I think it is like a very underrated series that doesn't 248 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:33,440 get its due nowadays because of the rejection of, of bro 249 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,440 culture, the rejection of anything that could be marketed 250 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:40,240 towards younger men. You know, I think if you were to 251 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:47,000 get Entourage in, in this last period of time, you know, 1/5 of 252 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,960 the show as it exists now is probably making it in. 253 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,480 And I think we're probably due for a revival season. 254 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,040 I think the the conditions are starting to line up socially 255 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,080 where we could get a revival season of Entourage soon. 256 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,160 Well, the I mean, to me, it's Sex and the City for guys. 257 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,040 My wife has Sex in the City on. I've seen a bunch of isolated 258 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,520 episodes, but I'm like the magic for me is not there. 259 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,000 You know, it's like I, but she's just locked in because that's 260 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,840 what you do with your girlfriends. 261 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,360 You know, whatever they do, whatever. 262 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:20,080 Which by the way, I also at the same time I rewatched season 1, 263 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,240 which was yesterday. I too tuned into and Just Like 264 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,040 That season 3 episode one just out of the blue and I was like, 265 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,800 what's going on on this series at this point? 266 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,800 And Cynthia Nixon is just now she's herself from real life 267 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,360 Rosie. Doesn't she fuck Rosie 268 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,200 O'Donnell? It opens with her and Rosie 269 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,480 fucking. There's a beautiful scissoring 270 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:45,720 scene in the season premiere and the look of the show is so eerie 271 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,760 and plastic. And I remember watching parts of 272 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,080 Sex and the city because it was like my go to show as a kid 273 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,520 where I was like, oh, maybe there's going to be something 274 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,720 spicy on here. And I shut the door to my 275 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,160 bedroom, which I I never did or probably wasn't allowed to do at 276 00:11:58,160 --> 00:11:59,960 10:00. I would hope, you know, maybe 277 00:11:59,960 --> 00:12:01,600 you see something good. Never ever. 278 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:06,720 But you know, tuning into it, it's got the look of a Netflix 279 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,240 show, but they do this thing that reminds me of Greg 280 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:13,040 Turkington's movies on, on cinema at the cinema where it's 281 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,200 like you have the actors and then you have the green screen 282 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:16,960 background that looks so artificial. 283 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,040 And I, I realize what they're doing with this show because 284 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,440 they do shoot in New York all the time. 285 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,280 They're going to these locations that like the Lincoln Center 286 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,200 Ballet or a Chinese restaurant, and they'll shoot the location 287 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,520 and the extras, and then they'll shoot the name actors separately 288 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:38,280 in a studio and then plop like them in chairs to make it look 289 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:39,400 like that. And it's got this weird 290 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,720 artificial vibe. I would hate to see that happen 291 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,280 with Entourage if they go back to Hollywood and you know, but 292 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:50,800 expect it if it does happen. Yeah, I I also man, I think what 293 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,960 I love about Entourage is the time capsule element of it so 294 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:58,360 much and just I wouldn't having it be current, like I don't know 295 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:59,960 if I would be able to escape this. 296 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,040 This was full on escapism for me was just watching this. 297 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,760 And because it's not a life I lived. 298 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,160 I mean, I was like the fucking great value Walmart version of 299 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:12,280 like going to clubs like with people and not not an Aquaman or 300 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,640 anything. I was like, oh, that guy toured 301 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,600 with the dilated people's once like whoa, like an underground 302 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,960 rapper. It was like that kind of level, 303 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,960 but you still just the the transparency of a friend group 304 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,520 where you're like that guy's blame never gets laid pretends 305 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,960 that he does that guy. Everybody knows everything about 306 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,520 each other and it's fine. Whereas like women have to hide 307 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,600 all these things from each other, have to do all. 308 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,320 It's just it's completely a male show. 309 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,520 It might be it's close to the most male show out there. 310 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:46,760 I mean, it's tough like in terms of male relations, which I sadly 311 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,680 I don't have any more. That's the sad part is like is 312 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:53,160 is realizing I'm like, man, all my friends are fucking losers 313 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:54,920 now, you know, including me, probably. 314 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,560 They probably think that about me, but it's just like, that's a 315 00:13:57,560 --> 00:14:00,040 magical show, man. It's a it's a it's it's magical. 316 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,680 So DC, you were like a kid when this came out. 317 00:14:02,680 --> 00:14:03,560 That's what I was laughing about. 318 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:04,480 Old. Diapers. 319 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,880 I was, I, I was, I was 3 when I came out. 320 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,640 But but I saw, I saw the whole thing later. 321 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,360 Yeah, there's. A baby pointing at Billy Walsh 322 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,960 on the screen. It just the first word. 323 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,080 First word is Queens Blvd. By the way, DC, doesn't Billy 324 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,440 Walsh look exactly like our friend Paige? 325 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:21,720 No. You don't think so? 326 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:22,880 Are you out of your mind? I'm. 327 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:24,800 Crazy. I'm so sorry. 328 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,560 We Paige, a guy named Paige. A guy named Paige Paige Garcia, 329 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,840 and he's not a woman or Hispanic. 330 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,240 Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's no, he's, he's cool 331 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,840 man. I used to, we, I used to have 332 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,680 we, we got off on the wrong foot, I think. 333 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,760 And I really. No, not you in some. 334 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,920 No, no, no, no. Get out of here I. 335 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:43,240 Don't, don't put that on the Internet. 336 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,000 I'm very friendly. But that's the thing. 337 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,400 It's like he was, he's actually a great guy, Very, very cool. 338 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,560 So I, I jive with Jay's appreciation of Paige shut up 339 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,040 page. However, I don't think he, I 340 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,200 don't think he's got the Billy Billy Walsh vibe, you know, 341 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:58,080 saying I. Didn't say vibe. 342 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,360 I said the look. I said he looks exactly like 343 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:01,800 Billy Walsh. That's not true though. 344 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,200 It is true. It's absolutely. 345 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,400 I need you. Spent more time with him than I 346 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,960 did, so maybe. 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All right, enough of that. 368 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:58,920 Let's get you back into the episode. 369 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,600 Well, I I was laughing though, because I was ready in our chat. 370 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,520 I was, I was ready to just be like, Oh my God, DC is totally 371 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,000 Billy Walsh. And then I checked the chat and 372 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,840 he changed his fucking. Name to Billy Walsh. 373 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:12,920 I wish, man. It's not going to happen, but 374 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:13,880 you know. No, it's you. 375 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,920 It's 1000% you. Like I said, we have to scale 376 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:17,840 it. We scale it, right? 377 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,760 We scale these things like this is like maybe one day, who know, 378 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,120 you're young. I mean, you could be absolutely. 379 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,920 He won Sundance at 24. I don't know. 380 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,080 The clock's ticking. That's it. 381 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,560 You got to adjust for inflation now fucking 28. 382 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,320 All right, you know, it's it's it's so anyways, I I and then I 383 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,800 look and I'm like, I really feel like E I'm going to drop a bomb 384 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,840 and then my fucking name is changed to E in the chat And I 385 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,600 was like, that's that's fucking me. 386 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,880 I was like, and it's it's crazy go because it's it's accurate 387 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,800 and there's a lot of literally me stuff. 388 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,120 But Billy Walsh is funny. I mean, he's obviously not part 389 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,720 of the main friend group, but he's he's this director who and 390 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,880 this is not DCI. Don't believe DC thinks his shit 391 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,640 doesn't stink. But the way he talks about 392 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,960 movies where he'll just be like, yeah, I saw that. 393 00:16:59,960 --> 00:17:01,200 I've seen that movie like 20 times. 394 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,360 Like, yeah, it's one of my favorite movies. 395 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,119 It fucking sucks. Like, that's like the way DC 396 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,280 talks about things like is, is this like I've consumed every 397 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:09,920 aspect of that thing and I hate it. 398 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,680 You know, I like the the I love that I was just I was smiling at 399 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,560 the whole time and just his like bleeding heart for the craft. 400 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,960 But it's kind of this like hamster wheel that, you know, 401 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,280 maybe doesn't allow you to actually just put a damn thing 402 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:24,480 out. And I'm not saying you do that. 403 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,079 I just know that I could easily see you doing that, though. 404 00:17:27,079 --> 00:17:29,200 That's what I love. I love about it. 405 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,040 So tell me about Billy. Billy, man, the first time you 406 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,080 saw him, you were just like, I mean, obviously you were three 407 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,600 years old when he saw it. No, no, I didn't actually watch 408 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,360 Entourage at that time. I won. 409 00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:40,960 The remote, yeah. No, no, I watched it much later 410 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,880 actually. I saw Korean entourage before 411 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:43,680 entourage. Probably. 412 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,840 Yo, I just learned that was a thing right now right now, and I 413 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,080 was. It sucks. 414 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,960 It really sucks. The first scene is the guys. 415 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,000 It's four guys that look like women because it's like very K 416 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,640 pop vibes. I love Korea. 417 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,360 I'm the number one Korea guy. Don't even. 418 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,160 I'm the number one Korea guy. I'm the 1.5 then, because I 419 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,080 really, really, really like Korea, but The thing is, this 420 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,240 show is so certified, okay, The first scene is all the guys, all 421 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:11,080 four guys naked, 100% naked in a spa basically, and there's the 422 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,120 Japanese hentai blur on their private parts and they're just 423 00:18:14,120 --> 00:18:15,720 like joking around and splashing water around. 424 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,760 That's the first scene of Entourage Korea, so. 425 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,560 Their culture won't. It would never be conducive with 426 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,280 anything that you would find on Entourage. 427 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,600 That's the problem, yeah. Yeah, well, I had no idea. 428 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,720 I'm probably not going to check it out, but. 429 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,680 But if you want just for the few first few seconds, it's really 430 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,200 crazy like, but it it is it does have the same logo and it says 431 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:36,720 based on the show by Doug Ellen, etcetera. 432 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:41,040 Anyways, Entourage proper. I love the show. 433 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,720 Yeah, it's great. Billy Walsh, though, I don't 434 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,520 know, at the first, the first time you actually meet him, 435 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,280 you're like, OK, it's going to be this like, but the the his 436 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,640 decline, his absolute like going from he's the shit to we 437 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,320 actually see the movie and it's one of the worst pieces of 438 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,240 pretentious doctors of all time. It's so good, man. 439 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,160 It's so I I love everything about it. 440 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,880 And as well the the slow reveal that he's actually from money 441 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,920 and that his dad gave him like a fucking Rolex as a graduation 442 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,800 game. So good, so good, man. 443 00:19:08,120 --> 00:19:10,600 Yeah, and he's like, I mean, we're the block boys, you know, 444 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:11,280 Queen. Yeah. 445 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,800 I love, I love that whole thing. And then the also when they 446 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,720 finally reconnect with him and he's just directing pornography, 447 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,440 that really kills me that that part, that part kill and he's 448 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,320 he's just like, it is way to get total classic. 449 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,040 Like, well, if I can't make my art, I'll just make the ultimate 450 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,880 exploitative trash. Like, you know, we all know that 451 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:34,720 that that bleeding heart kind of every every coin flip thing that 452 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,600 doesn't go my way is just I'll, I'll just give it all up and 453 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,000 until a script comes by that I'll pretend I hate and then 454 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,880 I'll do it and make it about Sofia Vergara like. 455 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,200 Yeah, every director I've met has been Billy Walsh. 456 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,760 I knew the guy who is that pretentious and then wound up 457 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,240 going to porn and using the name Orson Swells for his work. 458 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,080 And especially in New York, you run into a lot of the trust fund 459 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,720 kids who are like. Very highly attuned to like they 460 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,320 they'll know you know, they'll know the encyclopedia on film 461 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,920 back and forth, and they'll think it's going into their work 462 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,440 and it's not. And you get exactly what you 463 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,680 wind up with here. So extremely familiar character. 464 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,120 DC is nothing like Billy Walsh in that regard. 465 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,800 No, no, I just all right guys, Will. 466 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,440 You protecting my ego here. You're no, you're. 467 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,160 Not it's just it's just really funny because I'm, I'm also not 468 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,560 like E, but I am, but I conduct their, I view certain things 469 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:28,600 that way. You know what I mean? 470 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,280 Like I'm not, I'm not 5 foot fucking 4:00 and also. 471 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,720 You know, working as Burrows. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. 472 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,440 And it's. True, I've never actually, I'm 473 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,440 not actually, I've worked a lot of that tier of work, never a 474 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,120 pizza guy, but it just the idea of that E is just like he's 475 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,960 hanging out with people that party really hard, but not 476 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,800 partying hard. That's me like absolutely caught 477 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,600 bleeding heart. Whatever relationship he's in is 478 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,560 like he's super invested in that and thinks that any move that he 479 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,360 makes is going to ruin it, except the one he actually 480 00:20:57,360 --> 00:21:01,280 makes, which does ruin it. Gosh. 481 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,640 And just the kind of he wants to be one-on-one with Vinny all the 482 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,560 time, kind of. And I'm a one-on-one type 483 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,400 person. It just that's exactly that type 484 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,600 of the person. But I want to talk about the 485 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,240 genesis of the show because I didn't know anything about the 486 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,480 genesis of it. Because you keep seeing Mark 487 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,080 Wahlberg's name all over it and you realize, well, Adrian 488 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,480 Grenier is not Mark Wahlberg. Like it's just, it couldn't be 489 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,120 more not him. And you realize the show could 490 00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:27,480 not have worked if it was a Mark Wahlberg type. 491 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,000 I think you get sick of that quick if it's a, you know, open 492 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,520 baseball jersey Boston guy, if he dresses like turtle 493 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,640 basically, you know, and it but it's Mark Wahlberg and it's like 494 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,520 breaking stuff constantly. You know, then he is just this 495 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:44,280 constant like ATM machine. But he knows that he's get he's 496 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,920 basically lighting money on fire. 497 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,320 However, he's giving money and all of these perks going out of 498 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,000 his way to buy turtles shoes from a Japanese guy or 499 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,160 something. You're doing all of these things 500 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,360 knowing damn well he's getting none of it in return, but also 501 00:21:57,360 --> 00:21:59,560 the fact is everybody else he meets outside of that friend 502 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,480 group is worse because they're not they're they have no vested 503 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:04,720 interest in him. It's just it. 504 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,920 So I I love that full transparency. 505 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,800 Let whereas Mark Wahlberg be like, fuck you. 506 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,400 You don't get any fucking money from me. 507 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,120 You know it just. It wouldn't work as long Vinny 508 00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:16,480 Chase feels more pussy posse coded to me like a DiCaprio, 509 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:22,400 Tobey Maguire, Lucas Haas type and E was in that as a kid and 510 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,040 that's how I believe how he met Mark Wahlberg is through 511 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:27,120 basketball batteries. Isn't he in The Sandlot? 512 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,200 Kevin Connolly. He could be, it's been a while 513 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,240 since I've seen The Sandlot. Yeah, I can't remember. 514 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,640 No, yeah, that's, but they do that a lot on the show and I 515 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,720 love it very much 'cause they don't dwell on it. 516 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,520 But every time there's a major celebrity on there, like not a 517 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,680 guest star, but someone like Mark Wahlberg or Kanye, there's 518 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,040 like the entourage of that person as well. 519 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,560 So when they meet Mark Wahlberg in the hallway, he has his own 520 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,240 Boston entourage. It's just, it's, it's, it's so 521 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,600 beautiful, man. It's very, it sounds sarcastic, 522 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,920 but it's so artistic. This show, the, the really he, 523 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,960 he, I don't know if it's Doug or whoever else is working on the 524 00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:03,880 show, but there is a, a sense of we're going to make this rock. 525 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,200 You know, it doesn't matter if the small detail is going to be 526 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,080 missed by the drunk Bros trying to watch this on, you know, 527 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,480 fucking HBO in 2007. We want to make this as 528 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,720 precisely hell yeah as a show as we can. 529 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,680 So I, I, I, I love that stuff, but I don't. 530 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,760 Enough about Mark Wahlberg. Let's talk about the real deal 531 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,160 here, Vinny Chase. What do you think about Vinny 532 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,080 Chase? Because so many opinions online 533 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,480 are wrong about Vinny Chase. He's I want to keep. 534 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,880 He's fucking excellent and 1st off, like I was, I did a deep 535 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,360 dive on Adrian Grenier because I remember last time I was on a 536 00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:36,160 place we watched him on like Jordan Peterson. 537 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,000 Oh, yeah, I bring it to everybody I know. 538 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,840 Every single person I've shown this clip to. 539 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,360 Yeah. And it's weird because, you 540 00:23:41,360 --> 00:23:44,640 know, they did the, the an Entourage podcast and I will 541 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,080 talk about him on the show, but Adrian Grenier, is he, they, 542 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,960 they do this like, I think it's called victory or something 543 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,240 that's like Entourage, Doug Ellen and Kevin Connolly and 544 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,080 then Kevin Dillon's on part of it too. 545 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,240 But they couldn't get Adrian Grenier to show up like for the 546 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,160 longest time, which is pretty funny, pretty poetic actually. 547 00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:02,200 And but they couldn't get him to, to show up for it. 548 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,440 And he finally does. And he does like the, I just 549 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,800 wasn't in the headspace man. And like he talks about like, I 550 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,760 got to do Nofap. I got to do all this stuff to 551 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,760 get back in. And, and they're making fun of 552 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,720 that. Not in a, not in a hateful way 553 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,240 either. They're just like making fun. 554 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,440 And he's just like and like they're they're going, Hey, 555 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,240 Doug, I told you not to make fun of fucking Adrian Zdelf happened 556 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,800 like all the all and they're and they're really like careful with 557 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,280 it. And I was like, turn this off. 558 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,440 I don't want I want Vinny Chase. I want VHS that smiles at 559 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,720 everything that that is just like a this bimbo guy. 560 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,440 But he's not. I don't think he's that stupid 561 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,040 either. Like the idea that he's like 562 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,800 stupid. I don't I think he fully 563 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,320 understands everything that's happening. 564 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,240 And I love the idea that he has, you know, his massive hit. 565 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,640 He's constantly passing on what Matterhorn or what everybody has 566 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,440 his big hit in Aquaman and immediately buys his passion 567 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,960 project stuff. I would do, you know, but I'm 568 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,720 also not. I know I'm not Vinny Chase. 569 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,040 I, I don't. Stuff doesn't just wash off me 570 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:58,880 the way it washes off him. I mean, life ending mistakes are 571 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,560 just another day for him. That's what's sick. 572 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,080 That's what it's almost a Tommy Shelby like character where you 573 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,240 like he you not walk until the end there, but you basically 574 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,040 know he's going to get get away with it until later on in the 575 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,720 show. No, no matter if he's going 576 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,960 bankrupt, if there's an issue or you know, friendships break, it 577 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,120 doesn't matter because he's going to be Vinny Chase tomorrow 578 00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:17,600 as well. The thing is about Grenier 579 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,120 though, I, you know, respect to him obviously for his work and 580 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:24,440 everything, but he is the most Hollywood type guy of all time 581 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,720 'cause after the end of the show he didn't do this bro, cool 582 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,080 stuff, Joe Rogan type stuff. He was more of the 583 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,520 environmentalist guys. We got to save the avocado 584 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,240 plants on the in the deep sea in fucking Tunisia. 585 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,120 That that's the type of stuff he was doing that didn't work 586 00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:41,200 anymore. And now he's in the manosphere 587 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,920 sort of like, you know, I'm, I'm doing meditation, stoicism and 588 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:46,520 you know, stuff like that. So. 589 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:51,560 What I know about him is he's been very, he's been very vague 590 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:56,520 about his ethnic heritage where he claims to be Hispanic, but he 591 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,840 doesn't really go into detail about that. 592 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,800 He won't name a specific Hispanic ethnicity. 593 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,640 I think he also identifies as Native American. 594 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,400 So he's all, you know, it all tracks for him. 595 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,440 I think he's the perfect man to be cast as Vinnie Chase. 596 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,240 They. Had to push for him too because 597 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,040 I think a lot because you know this you see all the celebrity 598 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,440 Camryos and entourage and I'm not saying this started from 599 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,240 nothing, but it was I from I what I gather it was not meant 600 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,680 to be a hit HBO show. HB it was not the 6:00 PM or 601 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,360 9:00 PM if you're on the East Coast thing that plays for an 602 00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:27,920 hour. I mean it's half hour episode. 603 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,640 This was that show. That slot of HBO is really 604 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,600 interchangeable and shit does not last long there. 605 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,880 So they really, I don't think they were guaranteed much. 606 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,200 And I think a lot of the studios wanted a kind of over the top 607 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,360 Mark Wahlberg type character, especially because that's the 608 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:43,560 person who's probably trying to make this show something, the 609 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,440 person who's getting the favors for people to show up in the 610 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,120 show, I would imagine. Because what have they what what 611 00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:50,400 had any of these guys done before? 612 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,080 What was Doug? I mean, what was Doug Ellen 613 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,000 before I? Looked, I know. 614 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,960 Yeah. There's a short film about a 615 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,160 waiter who wants to go to Hollywood or something like 616 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,040 that. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 617 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,120 But the guy, the guy's really, I fucking forget the. 618 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,200 Who's the guy in Pretty in Pink? You know the loser guy, Andrew. 619 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,080 MCCARRAN, OH. No, no, no, John Cryer. 620 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:07,440 John Cryer. That's right. 621 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,120 So he plays, he did 1 short film and then he went on to do 622 00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:12,320 Entourage. So that's that's the type of 623 00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:15,520 nonsensical filmography. Yeah, the the concept of 624 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,680 Entourage, I believe, because I was watching a lot of Mark 625 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,960 Wahlberg interviews, was they were trying to pitch him on 626 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,720 doing a reality series with his friend group. 627 00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:26,600 And I don't know if you guys jumped into Wahlburgers at all. 628 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,960 Like I jumped into Wahlburgers. OK, the first two episodes you 629 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,600 get like a clear, all right, here's the real Johnny drama. 630 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,880 Here's 8. You know, there's been a lot of 631 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,880 men. I don't know why, but there's a 632 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,200 lot, a lot of these men out there that are claiming I'm the 633 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,960 basis of Turtle. And on Wahlburgers, there's an 634 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:48,040 obese, short, kind of obnoxious guy named Nacho who is like, 635 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,200 yeah, I'm Turtle. But then you, you see a separate 636 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,480 interview around the time of Entourage, the movie with Mark 637 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,200 Wahlberg, where he's talking about, oh, my friend Donkey. 638 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,800 I have this friend named Donkey who's the basis of Turtle. 639 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,520 OK. And then just out of nowhere, I 640 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,240 don't know where this came from. I I watch a lot of Vanderpump 641 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,720 Rules and one of the cast members on there dates a 642 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,760 Hollywood producer named Randall Emmett who just produces total 643 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,200 shit. All these like Bruce Willis, 644 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,640 vacant head roles that you've seen in the last five years. 645 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,960 He's responsible for those, but he's friends with Martin 646 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,440 Scorsese. OK. 647 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,760 He claims he's the basis of Turtle, which is probably the 648 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,560 most bullshit I would have to imagine. 649 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,360 Right. I don't know why they want to be 650 00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:31,160 this guy so bad. Yeah, that, that's the worst 651 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,360 person to be serious, I, I don't think anybody relates to being 652 00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:36,000 Turtle because he's got no drive. 653 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,120 And the only thing that pushes him to actually do something 654 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,720 later on is everybody's making fun of him for being a fucking 655 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:42,880 loser. So he's like, I got to do 656 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,480 something. I invest in this real estate 657 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:46,360 deal or whatever, you know, like. 658 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,080 He and Saigon don't forget about Saigon. 659 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,520 What we have about Saigon as well, that's just something that 660 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,160 he was like, but it's Saigon me, and that's all he was doing. 661 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:53,800 He didn't. Do it. 662 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,520 I listened to Saigon. I'd like I had no joke kid like 663 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,560 and I hadn't watched Entourage. I like this because he was real 664 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,600 and people, I think a lot of people don't think he's like a 665 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,680 real. That was me until today, and 666 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,480 when you actually posted the song, I didn't know it was a 667 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,280 real rap and. It's totally rapid around, like 668 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,400 I lyrically slice you with my lyrical samurai sword, you know, 669 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,880 like the shit in like 2007. That was so cool I guess, and 670 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,320 it, it sounds actually terrible now, but at the time I was like, 671 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,360 no fucking way, this is I, I, I don't know if it's a chicken or 672 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,320 the egg thing. Did Saigon come from Entourage 673 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,240 and then start putting music out on rap blogs? 674 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,720 Maybe. Did, did, did they say this is 675 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,160 an underground rap? Because he's from New York? 676 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,280 So I was like, this isn't even an LA rapper, this is a New York 677 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,480 rapper. So I thought it was interesting. 678 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,600 Lily Shushu, you know that movie all about Lily Shushu that was 679 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,600 not a real band. And then the singer from that 680 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,600 movie started the band because the songs are so good, Mark. 681 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,680 Wahlberg should have done Steel Dragon for real dude talking. 682 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,600 From there's still time. Rockstar. 683 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,960 Yeah, it's true. It's not it's. 684 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,360 That's true. It's plenty of time. 685 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,720 But yeah, that was Turtle is interesting because yeah, you 686 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,880 don't want to be him. Like when the musical chairs 687 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,200 stop and there's chairs with each entourage characters, maybe 688 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,440 you do not want to sit in the fucking. 689 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,760 You'd rather not have a seat. No, the entire first season. 690 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,560 You want to have a carrot friend though? 691 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,000 You want to. I think you want to have a 692 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:08,960 turtle in your friend group though. 693 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,440 The entire first season Turtle is very one-dimensional where 694 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,960 he's just Vinny's Dick sucker and he like all of his lines are 695 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,480 just yeah, but and he backs up why Vinny is right in his like 696 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,400 stupidity and why he's doubling down on that. 697 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,040 He's just like the worst kind of enabler. 698 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:28,320 I did want to ask if you guys felt like Entourage took a 699 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,480 little while to develop its real character, because that's 700 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,560 something I feel like I noticed when I went back. 701 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,200 Here is season 1. I don't want to say you can 702 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,920 write it off because there's a lot of great moments and 703 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,280 character aspects to that first season, but it doesn't really 704 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,520 start to feel like itself until Season 2. 705 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,680 Well, the way I view it is, and I can tell they didn't have a 706 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,760 lot of time to like keep this for the studios weren't going to 707 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,000 give them that much time. So I think they went with very 708 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,640 simple stuff, right? This guy does this, this guy 709 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,880 does this, this guy does this. And then we just do jokes and 710 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,400 jokes and jokes within that, within those parameters. 711 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,960 It's kind of like like sports teams like this when a manager 712 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,400 has one year left or a guy that assembles A-Team together, they 713 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,120 don't think about four years from now. 714 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,000 And so they don't they'll get a bunch of has been guys in there, 715 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,640 they'll do all this stuff and then you're like, well, our team 716 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,760 sucks and I got fired, You know, whereas if you know you have 717 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,720 four years, you're going to like, no, no, no, no, no, let's 718 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,080 just plant the seeds. Let's get this going. 719 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,520 You can tell they didn't know that. 720 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,000 And I think towards the end of season 1, they realize, OK, I 721 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,440 think we have something here. I think this is resonating with 722 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,320 people. There's catch phrase. 723 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,160 I think they started they did a lot with the well, is it a 724 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,760 meeting or is it a discussion? No, a discussion means it's that 725 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,480 a lot of those, like a lot of those, that stuff really 726 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,600 resonates with people. That was the type of humor that 727 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,120 was really popular around that time. 728 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,040 And they really lean on that in the first season and it kind of 729 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,680 just, they sprinkle it back in later, but you can tell they 730 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,080 just kind of were like, we need to float, We need to like tread 731 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,200 water with this. We need one more season for this 732 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,000 to work. And I say I, I think the end of 733 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,360 season 1's pretty good, but it, it comes, it's kind of like 734 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,280 background noise for the first like 5 episodes, 5 or 6 735 00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,960 episodes. I think for the most part where 736 00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:02,080 you just have it on, you're like, that's kind of funny. 737 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,040 And then you and then by like Season 2, by the time all the 738 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,400 Aquaman stuff starts, I'm like locked in I think. 739 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,160 It becomes much more of a film nerd show than be like the first 740 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,960 season is very much all the movies as this device to move 741 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,280 everything along. But season 2 is actually this 742 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,680 producer that reference something actually happened, 743 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,240 Robert Evans, etcetera, etcetera. 744 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,560 And by the end it just becomes so crazy that they're doing 745 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,960 parodies of Werner Herzog. That's not something they would 746 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,240 have done in the first season at all. 747 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:28,960 What's the? What's the Werner Herzog? 748 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,560 Parody. Sorry, that's that's too far 749 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:31,960 ahead. I'm sorry. 750 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,520 No, no, I don't care. I thought I missed it. 751 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,920 I was like, oh man. No no, no, but they do did you? 752 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,160 I did not rewatch anything for this show and I love rare candy. 753 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,640 That's not a that had no relation but the. 754 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,600 It's true but. It was not necessary to say 755 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,640 that's OK. No, but for real this time 756 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,160 anyways. What I what I mean is though 757 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,360 that they even do a Harvey Weinstein parody, which is so. 758 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,200 So you've seen him in season 4 as well or not? 759 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,960 Yet I watched all of Season 4. Yes, I'm up to I'm up to 760 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,120 Medellin tanking at Cannes. OK. 761 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,640 Right, right. So exactly what? 762 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,640 What? Crazy. 763 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,800 Like Bourdain and Argento's like starting of the Me Too movement 764 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,840 in like 2017 or something that is way later to make fun of 765 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,720 Harvey Weinstein at that time is is one of those elements you 766 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,720 were talking about that so. What? 767 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,000 What is the Weinstein? See, I thought the syllabus was 768 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,240 one through 3, so I haven't. I delved I think accidentally 769 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,480 into four because I was just like, this is so good. 770 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,560 That was the original. So let's keep we can keep it for 771 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,320 later, but there's. A I won't I won't let you guys 772 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,760 know who changed up the syllabus at like, you know, possibly the 773 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:34,920 last second not. Me. 774 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:36,600 Yeah, correct. I won't. 775 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:37,800 I just won't tell you guys who did it. 776 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,520 It's correct. It was in DC, but I won't tell 777 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,480 you guys who did it of course, but the, you know, anyways, I 778 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,440 did watch it though. I did watch it cuz season 3 is 779 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,360 20 episodes. So I was Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 780 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:48,760 yeah. I was like, wait, I thought I 781 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,480 was done with season 3. Thank God we pushed it back 782 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,080 because I was like, oh, I only have two episodes left and I'll 783 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,840 do that right before we watch. I was like no, no, no. 784 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,280 I have 9 episodes left of season 3. 785 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,280 That's right. I think season 3 is no joke 786 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,920 Perfect in my opinion I think. I agree, I think it's the best 787 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,800 one by. Wow, like I was like this is 788 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,720 awesome. OK, let's let's go. 789 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,160 Let's go through them though, if if you want. 790 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,880 But Harvey Weinstein real quick, I don't want to, we'll talk in 791 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,840 about it later. But basically they have this 792 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,880 character, this disgusting pig who looks just like Harvey 793 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,239 Weinstein called Harvey Weinblatt on on the show and 794 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,159 what he does and this these are things that we as the normies 795 00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:24,080 learned way later. He's that person. 796 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,120 So he helped all these movies get made. 797 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,360 He's the guy you want to impress. 798 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,960 But as soon as you don't do something he wants, he starts 799 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,520 screaming and screeching and he's very nice. 800 00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:35,440 But that is, that is I'm I'm telling you, these are all 801 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,000 things we learned later, but they knew. 802 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,520 I though like because they make him like a brawler. 803 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,199 That's what I was wondering about Harvey Weinstein. 804 00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:41,560 I could. Never. 805 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:42,880 Oh, he's big. He's a big guy. 806 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,800 He's doing the the fake Bill Cosby I'm disabled for court 807 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,440 thing. But before he was, he was a big 808 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:48,719 guy. He's like the Kingpin from 809 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,320 Spider Man. Yes, crazy. 810 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,719 Yes, yeah, because I that I didn't get, I was like, wait, 811 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,000 this guy's like fighting and he's wearing like the weird like 812 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,640 John Candy like hat. Yeah. 813 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,080 Wilson Fisk, Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's. 814 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,120 Nuts like I but yeah, because you you clearly can, but I'm 815 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,800 glad I didn't watch this back in in whenever it came out because 816 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,920 I wouldn't have got any of those references by the way I didn't 817 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,680 know what any of this stuff. I didn't know what Harvey 818 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,440 Weinstein was back then. I had no clue I would have not 819 00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:15,880 It's still funny on a on like this. 820 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,280 The the humor itself is funny, but like there's there's just 821 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,840 another layer that I wouldn't have got back then that that 822 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,800 would have probably, I probably would have eventually petered 823 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,280 out of the show and got kind of tired of the. 824 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:25,720 Friend. Yeah. 825 00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:30,480 I mean, Weinstein's reputation around this time was that he was 826 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:35,480 difficult to be around and he would fuck a list women, but 827 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,840 consensually, you know, obviously the courts would look 828 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,760 at that a little differently in 2018 or 2019. 829 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,160 Now he's a free man, I think, right? 830 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,960 Or, you know, he's, he's back in prison, isn't he? 831 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,560 Because Candace Owens talked to him. 832 00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:48,640 Yeah, because it was in prison, right? 833 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:49,800 Didn't she talked to him? Like, yeah, I. 834 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,320 Could have sworn that they were like, we fucked up. 835 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,120 Just like Cosby, we fucked up, Yeah. 836 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,480 That was pretty sneaky of her. So I didn't watch it. 837 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,360 Yeah, but yeah, that so that OK, but let's yeah, let's wind back 838 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,160 season 1. We got there's not much what's 839 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,200 wine? What's wine black? 840 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,040 And but there's there's season 1 is like they're laying the 841 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,680 groundwork, but you can tell they're not sure that they have 842 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,440 10 fucking years or whatever to tell the story of Entourage, but 843 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,680 they're they're kind of just trying to make sure Johnny 844 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,760 Drama, you know, Johnny Drama's a loser has been make sure you 845 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,400 know that. And I say I drama's the best in 846 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,480 my. Opinion I was getting the vibe 847 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,600 they were setting him up as a closet gay because there were 848 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,920 all these What are you, a fairy? And then? 849 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,960 The muscle girl that the muscle girl that he's dating, Yeah. 850 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,240 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And with all the trans stuff 851 00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:37,640 they've incorporated in later, you think Kevin Dillon would 852 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,760 have walked into that, right? I wanna hear you guys opinion on 853 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,240 this. I used to think I used to be 854 00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:45,200 team drama. I was like, yo, I wanna get him 855 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,000 to the success he deserves this time. 856 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,840 And I watch Entourage all the time. 857 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,280 By the way, it's not I didn't rewatch any specific season, but 858 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,040 this is like a constant stream of like, if I don't know what to 859 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,960 watch and I don't want to just like fry my brain, either I'll 860 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,720 watch Nothing or Entourage or Parts unknown. 861 00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:02,800 That's like my two shows I always go back to. 862 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,680 But then this, this show here I despise in the last few months. 863 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,280 I hate Johnny Drama so much it's unreal. 864 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,280 I I can't stand him. Every time he opens his mouth, I 865 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,680 can't stand him. I don't know what happened. 866 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,120 I used to be Team I. Don't know what? 867 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,320 I don't know. I don't know what happened. 868 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,560 That's kind of new. That's kind of new. 869 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:20,680 That's kind of new with Sopranos. 870 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,640 I didn't like. I watched Sopranos again and I 871 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,640 hate Paulie now. Oh yeah. 872 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,000 And as a kid when I watched the Browns, he was the funniest 873 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,480 fucking guy in the world. But but I could see that. 874 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,440 I mean, if you I cuz this is my first go round and I think, I 875 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:33,680 actually think he's really endearing. 876 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,080 And I'm like, I was like, I'd be like, come here, give me a hug, 877 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,080 dude. Like I got you, man. 878 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,600 You guys are being mean to you, man. 879 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,520 Yeah. I love Kevin Dillon can do no 880 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,080 wrong from the BLOB, the Chuck Russell BLOB from 1988 where 881 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,480 he's got a Jerry Crowell mullet to these Mel Gibson direct to 882 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,640 Red Box movies he's done. We're helping Reagan. 883 00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:53,160 Reagan's another one. There you go. 884 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,960 But what is it? What is it that annoys you 885 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,520 about? Is it like his onenoteness? 886 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,840 Is the character, is it his attitude or what? 887 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,600 It's it's the we got to look. At it like this. 888 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,000 Every every time he starts speaking, it's like what? 889 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,760 You got to look at it like this. He. 890 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,120 There's he sounds like that. I know I'm, I'm a terrible, I'm 891 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,200 a terrible impressionist, but but my point is that every time, 892 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,240 like every reaction is just going back to the same thing. 893 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,440 And it was great. You know, it's it's it's the but 894 00:38:17,720 --> 00:38:20,880 I guess, yeah, the onenoteness. Just something I I hate him now. 895 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,560 I hate Johnny drama. Wow, that's that. 896 00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:25,440 That one hurts my feel. I feel like I'm Johnny. 897 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,040 I feel like I'm Johnny right now. 898 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,960 And you said? That no, no, no. 899 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,320 Hans is Johnny. We should get Hans. 900 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,400 No, I mean Hods is the real Lloyd. 901 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,840 You know, I would. I would say that he's Lloyd. 902 00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:40,560 He and I are Ari and Lloyd. Yeah, you're totally, you're a 903 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,440 you're Ari. I could see that for sure. 904 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,680 But yeah, I, I will say the thing that I think Ari kind of 905 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,960 carries the show season one too, Like that, that that that's fair 906 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,240 to say where you're just like, because I, I remember thinking 907 00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:53,720 going into it, I knew I didn't know Jeremy Piven from anything, 908 00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:55,880 but he was always around because that show was popular and you'd 909 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,240 see him everywhere. And I'm like, that guy just 910 00:38:57,240 --> 00:38:59,480 seems really fucking annoying. Like when I looked at him and 911 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,040 then you the show, he's hysterical learning that he did 912 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,320 wasn't improving any of it. I thought was interesting. 913 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,400 Like that's all he's like, no, I'm, I said everything on the 914 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,560 script. That was, that's crazy to me 915 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,120 because like you would think there's at least some pockets 916 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,640 to, to drop a, you know, another line, another slur, whatever in 917 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,920 there. But yeah, I love, I love Ari and 918 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,600 his and his wife's man I love, I think it's at the end of season 919 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,840 1 or the end of season 2 when they're sitting in bed and his 920 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,640 wife's reading consider the Lobster by David Foster Wallace. 921 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,720 And he's, I don't know why it's like so stupid because obviously 922 00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:34,480 she's the alpha in the, in the marriage, but it's just, it's 923 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,360 just, it's great. You're a woman reading David 924 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,920 Foster Wallace in bed while your husband's like pretending that 925 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,000 he fucks so many girls that he does not. 926 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,480 It's it's hysterical, but that's what keeps season 1 going. 927 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,480 I think Jeremy Piven really saved that show in the first 928 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,240 season. In general, I think he's one of 929 00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:53,600 the best parts. For sure, for sure. 930 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:54,600 No, he never. Loses it. 931 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,040 Have you guys seen the The Irishman of? 932 00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,480 Course. You you know what? 933 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,160 That's every time they present a gangster, they put the time of 934 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,440 death and had like how they died and how brutally he died. 935 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,200 That's what I feel about Entourage is what each of these 936 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,920 people you can see like, oh, used to be the star of the show, 937 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,560 now is doing stand up comedy, smoking stogies. 938 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,320 Like that's that's what Jeremy Piven is now because he got 939 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,760 cancelled as well. He's also doing this. 940 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:16,240 Yeah. What did he? 941 00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:17,360 Get and what I was getting cancelled. 942 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,000 For. The same, same thing. 943 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,840 They're all, they're all disgusting guys. 944 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,760 They're all like pinched under the the the dress type. 945 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,800 Well, he reinvented himself as Mr. Selfridge for PBS 946 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,640 Masterpiece Theatre or something. 947 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,640 And now, yeah, he he became like the stand up guy because that 948 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,640 was the only community that would accept, you know, anybody 949 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,520 like that. But it seems like he's kind of 950 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,640 softly returned. I don't think, I don't think HBO 951 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,520 would green light a reboot just yet. 952 00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:48,080 But give it about two to three years and people will just be 953 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,000 like, whatever. When James Franco comes back, 954 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,040 that's when Jeremy, Jeremy won't come back. 955 00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:55,240 I was one day away from meeting James Franco and I'm so pissed 956 00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:55,680 off. Dude. 957 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,440 I can all all, all of my friends met James Franco and I, I left 958 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,440 just the day before so. Damn dude, he's a fucking Bay 959 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,200 Area legend. No, he he's literally right now. 960 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,160 I want to see all his movies but it's going to be impossible in 961 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,840 the US I'm assuming, or in Canada. 962 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,320 He did the Italian movie in 2024. 963 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,360 Yeah, exactly. Exactly where he's like a 964 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,080 fisherman or something. It's this is the era of film. 965 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,240 This is the cinema I want to see, but I can't, I can't see 966 00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:17,680 anything. He's a. 967 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,840 Little beefy these days. He's kind of gotten a little 968 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,120 wide. It doesn't suit his his form or 969 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,840 his face, but he'll, he'll lose that, you know? 970 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,400 Yeah. He always need that look, like 971 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,040 an action figure that's always like James Franco is supposed to 972 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,760 supposed to look. But yeah, no, I what's that? 973 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,720 Sorry, no, I I go deep in Franco. 974 00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:36,800 OK, The Dave Franco sort of took the place of James Franco. 975 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,280 The only reason why Dave Franco has a career is because James 976 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,320 can't play and. Isn't that funny? 977 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:42,640 You wouldn't. You think you'd poison the 978 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,560 family tree, wouldn't you? Like if you were trying to get 979 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:45,680 rid of a guy? No. 980 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,120 No. No, it feels weird. 981 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,840 You know, you see the studio and Dave Franco does pop up at a 982 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,960 certain point. Like I think the third episode, 983 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,640 I have an episode on the studio I've been cooking up for a 984 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,680 little while now, and it's like, OK, well, they're trying to do 985 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,120 kind of similar to Entourage, but it feels like an insincere 986 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,240 version of that. It's Letterbox. 987 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,000 The movie, Yeah. It's like, remember when Ari 988 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,880 Oster did this? No, we can't do Ari Oster. 989 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,760 It's it's. And then the one shot. 990 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,320 Everybody loves Goodfellas so. That's what I I keep hearing 991 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,240 about the one shot thing and that's what's taking me out of 992 00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:17,040 watching it. And also Apple TV played out 993 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,560 anything on Apple TV, I'm always like, well, that'll be fun for 994 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,160 an episode and then I'll forget about it. 995 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,680 So. Severance, dude, you don't want 996 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,000 to watch Severance. I have. 997 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,880 I watched the first. I watched the first season, but 998 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,960 it was fucking five years ago. So I'm like, well, what am I 999 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,200 going to do? Watch the first season again? 1000 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,920 I didn't like it that much. I love Walter mitty I love 1001 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,080 Walter mitty don't say anything bad about Walter mitty bro, he's 1002 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,320 the best. The Secret Life of Walter Mitty 1003 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:37,400 is such a great film. I. 1004 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,440 Want he just got he got signed off for Twilight Zone the Movie 1005 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:41,680 2. Yeah. 1006 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,480 You know, that's going to be exciting. 1007 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,640 Yeah, yeah. So Jeremy Piven should be right 1008 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,120 alongside him. I think it should be a package 1009 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,440 deal. He was in heat. 1010 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,320 Jeremy Piven was in heat. In the great scene where De Niro 1011 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,240 asked for his shirt and it's like, my daughter gave me this 1012 00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:53,640 shirt. That's. 1013 00:42:53,720 --> 00:42:54,880 Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1014 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,400 Yeah, no, it's. Rush hour 2. 1015 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,320 That's his best role. Maybe that's true. 1016 00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:01,640 Seinfeld, a customer service man and. 1017 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,640 Guess what? And guess what Rush Hour was. 1018 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,240 The Rush Hour 3 comes in as a plot point in in Entourage where 1019 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,600 Brett Ratner invites Johnny Drama thinking, yeah, yeah, 1020 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,080 think it's thinking. It's the young Co star from 5 1021 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,560 town, from the five towns, the new NBC drama. 1022 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:21,040 And and then he's like, fuck, it's this 45 year old guy or 1023 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,640 whatever. And it's like, it's great. 1024 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,160 And he's like, no, Brett Ratner, you're a scammer just like me, 1025 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,440 man. Like, you know, it's it's it's 1026 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,720 good. And I think Mark Wahlberg's 1027 00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:32,440 pitch for like celebrity cameos was like, we'll make fun of you 1028 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,160 relentlessly if you don't do the show. 1029 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,840 So you're going to become a plot point or you're going to become 1030 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,960 like an off screen joke. If not, and I wonder how often 1031 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,480 that worked. You know, the first season seems 1032 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:47,520 to feel like Batman 1966, where every episode you get a 1033 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,360 celebrity guest star in some form. 1034 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,320 And obviously it's Mark Wahlberg in that first one. 1035 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:56,320 And then I do they end on like Val Kilmer as that Sherpa? 1036 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:57,440 Guy yeah. Weed. 1037 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,480 Weed farmer Sherpa Guy that Vinny Chase's like new age yoga 1038 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,680 girlfriend it's like her ex-boyfriend or something Yeah, 1039 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,880 which is a bit. That was a big moment Your your 1040 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,320 girlfriend being like the only person we could buy weed from is 1041 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,800 my ex-boyfriend and then you're like that that'll never happen 1042 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,880 let me call 5 more people they don't answer and you're like 1043 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,880 let's go buy it from your fucking ex-boyfriend that was 1044 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,480 pretty funny I like. You're from, you're from 1045 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,040 California. You love weed, don't you? 1046 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,360 You love weed? I I don't love it anymore but I 1047 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:25,360 consume it. Yeah. 1048 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:26,400 OK, good. Yeah. 1049 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:27,600 How's that? How's that like? 1050 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,160 How is it? I've been smoking it since I was 1051 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,040 13 years old. Nice to see like a high 1052 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,520 functioning guy. You'd be the judge of that. 1053 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,720 No, no, no, I'm, I'm not that's that's not what I mean. 1054 00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:39,240 But it's like that's, that's crazy to me because I, I, I 1055 00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:41,440 heard Jay on the pod as well. Like he said, I I can't. 1056 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,320 I can't. Yeah, once I got on Twitter, 1057 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:45,520 everyone was like, I can't smoke weed. 1058 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:46,600 And I'm like, really? That's crazy. 1059 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,960 Like everyone smokes weed out here and always has. 1060 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,280 It's not Now I understand because I think there were a lot 1061 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,840 of states that had no business having like weed culture and not 1062 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,920 weed culture forever has always been bad, by the way. 1063 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,880 It's never like there was never like a golden age of like pot 1064 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:03,600 pajamas, pot leaf pajamas, you know, our or the hat, like 1065 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,400 Johnny Drama buys advise the weed hat from the cannabis club, 1066 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,520 which I love that episode too. But the there. 1067 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:14,600 But I've I've always liked it and my my brain moves way too 1068 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,720 fast to even be productive a lot of times. 1069 00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:18,520 And I don't mean that in like an intellect way. 1070 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,040 It's just it's just Millennium Falcon stars going by me and I 1071 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,560 can't get anything done. So I kind of just it's kind of 1072 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,040 slows me down. Now that being said, I don't 1073 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,000 really use it before like recording or anything like that, 1074 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,520 but I it's more of a night time activity for me. 1075 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,600 But yeah, I've always, I've always when I got on like 1076 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,840 Twitter and podcast, people were like, I smoked weed once and I'm 1077 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,960 like, I was in the insane asylum for a month. 1078 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,200 What the fuck are you like? Yeah, they're like anyways, I my 1079 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,960 script of Adderall was fucking 9,000,000 milligrams that I take 1080 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:47,920 it. I was like, oh, OK. 1081 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,920 Well, you agree with you. That's the Sid Barrett thing as 1082 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,040 well. Like if you're already twisted 1083 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,080 in the head and then you add something to it, of course it's 1084 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,440 going to bubble up and and kill you. 1085 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,520 You know, like that's the thing. If you're already demented, then 1086 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,280 you're not going to get out of there with the. 1087 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,760 I don't know, it's just interesting to not really to 1088 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,080 entre. I'm just, I'm just interested in 1089 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,600 that. No, no, I, I think there's an 1090 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,120 interesting observation there. It seems like, you know, I, you 1091 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,280 know, maybe this is a New York thing. 1092 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,440 I know way more people who use coke than smoke weed casually, 1093 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,120 which that's the why you know you're going to die, you're 1094 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,480 going to get. I saw a prominent, I saw I saw a 1095 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:25,160 prominent right wing poster like a prom, like like a Capital B 1096 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,840 based guy say, and I know where this guy is from. 1097 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,680 He said, wow, the weed smell in New York is disgusting. 1098 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,360 I said that is that even top five bad New York smell? 1099 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,520 And by the way, this person from Northern California, by the way, 1100 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,200 I'm like, there's no way that was your first time smelling 1101 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,120 weed Like and or you know, the wafts from the window and you 1102 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,520 might not like the smell of weed, but I'm like, there's 1103 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,400 like, if it's over 75° in New York, I heard it smells like 1104 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,080 garbage. Yeah, yeah. 1105 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,080 You get garbage, you get pissed, you get weed. 1106 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:57,920 I mean, it's just a new flavor to the equation. 1107 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,760 It's really not the worst of it. I can't say I'm personally a fan 1108 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,360 of it, but I'm not put off by it. 1109 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,680 Either no, but it there you there is. 1110 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,320 I can't smoke the way I used to though, like and and the stuff 1111 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,960 is medical truly like medical insane medical strong now, 1112 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,760 whereas in the past, like I used to be able to wake up and just 1113 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,240 literally go to work, do everything with weed hat like 1114 00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:20,760 cigarettes consuming it that way. 1115 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,720 Now it's, you know, if I were to wake up and and, you know, do 1116 00:47:25,720 --> 00:47:27,480 whatever, take an edible or something like that. 1117 00:47:27,720 --> 00:47:30,120 I'm not, I mean, I might watch season 5 of Entourage. 1118 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,240 But yeah, you know, that's a, that's the major key is when you 1119 00:47:33,240 --> 00:47:35,720 make like the thing that you do like, well, I'm gonna watch ATV 1120 00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:37,920 show and talk about it. You're like, well, I guess I 1121 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,640 can, I can make that part of it. But yeah, it's, it's definitely, 1122 00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:44,960 I'm fucking mid 30s now. It's definitely, definitely 1123 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,800 can't do it the way that I used to and nor should I. 1124 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:47,720 So. Yeah. 1125 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,040 I think the last time I smoked weed, Entourage was on the air. 1126 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,560 So it's been a while. I've been out, I've been out. 1127 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,440 Maybe I'd love it now I probably won't. 1128 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:56,560 Find out. I wouldn't try it now. 1129 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,000 I'll do it now. Yeah. 1130 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:00,840 You left at the right time if it wasn't for you. 1131 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,840 Yeah. Because that's now they have 1132 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,040 like now that now it's like Reddit. 1133 00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:07,800 So like you have like Redditors that make weed now and they're 1134 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,280 like now it's we combined 18 different plants. 1135 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,240 I mean. This one ghost pepper of weed, 1136 00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:15,000 you know that. That's it. 1137 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,120 This is Carolina Reaper Piss Kush. 1138 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,520 Yeah, yeah, it's they have that. It's true, that stuff. 1139 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,400 It is crazy. But yeah, any any who shall we 1140 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,080 move to season 2 Talk a little Season 2. 1141 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,920 I feel like that's a much more exciting season. 1142 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,120 I I got to admit I forget what happens when. 1143 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,360 So me too. So let me let me just don't 1144 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,800 don't stop the show for this. Obviously Opie and Anthony, but 1145 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,320 I, I really want to get the I, I want to get the episode list up 1146 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:41,920 so I can see sort of, but keep going. 1147 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:43,560 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know that we need to be 1148 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,560 that rigid, but yeah. I I no, I'm actually the first 1149 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,480 result by the way, is episode list severance. 1150 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,280 So that's cool. Go ahead. 1151 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:51,840 Sorry, sorry. I'm. 1152 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,280 Going on Apple devices because you can't do anything without. 1153 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,600 Well, we get a lot of big staple characters in Season 2. 1154 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,520 You do get Lloyd, you get Sloan, you get the Malcolm McDowell 1155 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:07,240 character. Yeah, you know, you start to 1156 00:49:07,240 --> 00:49:11,160 build the three-dimensional nature of this Entourage 1157 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,560 universe, really. Yeah, you get Beverly D'Angelo. 1158 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,680 That's right. Yeah, That's that's nice. 1159 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,200 I I love that a lot. I love the angry Busey you do 1160 00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:21,760 get. Oh yeah. 1161 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,360 Multiple abuse. I wasn't Season 1 when the when 1162 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,200 the turtle knocks over the fucking thing. 1163 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,560 I wonder. Yeah, I couldn't remember. 1164 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:28,560 You're right. That was cool. 1165 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:29,160 That was. Yeah. 1166 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,960 But he comes in later too, I think. 1167 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,040 Yeah, no, he returns. Maybe it's the season or 1168 00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:36,680 penultimate episode of season 1 where he's at the beach and he's 1169 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,720 just like abusing Turtle. Yeah, it's dumps. 1170 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,600 Though it's clearly what just Busey wanted to do that day. 1171 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,480 Remember, I'm with. Oh yeah. 1172 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,200 That was so funny back then when you would be like, hey, this 1173 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,520 guy's fucking schizo with like, brain damage. 1174 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,560 Let's just like, literally like Sam Hyde's the only one that 1175 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:55,480 does that now. But like, everybody like back 1176 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,440 then, that was like, we have a show that'll last for a decade 1177 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,440 if you put or however long that lasts. 1178 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:01,920 I think it lasted longer than it should have. 1179 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,000 But yeah, they had a show called I'm with Busey when he was like, 1180 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,720 anyways, I had a motorcycle accident. 1181 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:12,600 Fucking banged my head. That that was, that's another 1182 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,840 great thing about the early odds is kind of forgotten is they 1183 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,280 would just grab whatever mentally ill celebrity and then 1184 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:19,840 you'd have a show. You know, they did that with 1185 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,840 Ozzy, they did that with Anna Nicole, all huge successes. 1186 00:50:23,240 --> 00:50:25,440 They would just, or they would just take like black people and 1187 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,760 put them in the Hollywood Hills, like like 3-6 Mafia, you know, 1188 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,200 like just the stuff like that. It was Adventures in Hollywood, 1189 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,600 great show. And yeah. 1190 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,880 And it was, it was kind of like a postmodern thing where we're 1191 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,720 like, ah, we'll just, it's reality TV is going on and we'll 1192 00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:42,320 just do Surreal Life, Celebrity Rehab, which are all great shows 1193 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:43,680 in. My 2 quarries, that's a 1194 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,560 masterpiece. Haman Feldman Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1195 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,520 absolutely. Also same network as 1196 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,920 Wahlburgers, it might have been on at the same time. 1197 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,440 What? What time? 1198 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,280 What network was that? That was A&E. 1199 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:56,960 Yeah, that's right. I was. 1200 00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,440 That was Spike TV, but I guess not. 1201 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,320 Yeah, yeah, that's funny. Yeah, not remember when guys 1202 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,440 millennials. That was definitely that was 1203 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,760 definitely great. But I love yeah, I love the 1204 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,520 introduction to Sloan because it takes my guy E he gets all goo 1205 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:14,080 goo Gaga over her. He's not he's not the he loses 1206 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,000 all his his his bite. You know, he doesn't have the 1207 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,760 bite. He's not the tough guy anymore. 1208 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,240 Is he ever tough? Yeah, he, he, he puts a hard 1209 00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:24,360 line a lot of times. What I like about is he's a good 1210 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,360 middle man because Vinny will agree to a lot of stuff, but he 1211 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,800 knows what Vinny doesn't actually want to do because he's 1212 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,000 known him forever. So go man, fuck that guy. 1213 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,640 E, you know when they want to buy the, when you go to season 4 1214 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,280 and they want to buy Medellin, only guy that thinks that's a 1215 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,920 good idea is E and he kind of doesn't, but he knows it's what 1216 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,000 Vinny wants to do. So that's why he has a little 1217 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,080 bit of it. And he, you know, he, he tries 1218 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,680 to strong arm Ari a little bit because he's trying to, he wants 1219 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,800 to be the manager and stuff. He has a little bite to him, 1220 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,320 like. He right hooks Billy Walsh as 1221 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:52,360 well. I forget about that as well. 1222 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,960 He just assaults him. He picks his battles well, I'll 1223 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:57,360 say that. Much like he's a character that 1224 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,480 that punches in his weight class, which he's pretty small, 1225 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,440 but you know, in terms of like guys that could kick your ass or 1226 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,080 something. It's not like, again, Chuck 1227 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:09,160 Liddell in the Punked, the kind of Punked spoof episode. 1228 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,760 But yeah, that was, yeah, Season 2 was great because I love 1229 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,160 Malcolm McDowell. Because at first I thought it 1230 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,200 was, what's that guy's name? Udo Keir. 1231 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,120 Udo Keir Terence Stamp. I thought it was him. 1232 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:20,000 I thought it. Was like I was. 1233 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,600 Like damn, Udo Keir is an entourage and I was like, no, 1234 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,000 never mind. He made it like a face that 1235 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,880 looked like fucking Alex from Clockwork Orange. 1236 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:27,960 I was like, oh shit, never mind. Yeah, there he is. 1237 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,840 There he is. Yeah, it was great. 1238 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,640 Yeah, that was those are those are all great. 1239 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,880 His like hunting, his little hunting stuff. 1240 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,880 The painting too, the fake paintings in Ari's office. 1241 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,520 I love that one where he has to give the real one away after a 1242 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,480 while. Ari's marriage counseling stuff 1243 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,440 is some of my all time favorite stuff. 1244 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,920 I think that I don't know if that's in season 1 at all, but I 1245 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,560 know in season 2 and three that becomes a big thing is the the 1246 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,600 marriage counseling thing. So what are your guys favorite 1247 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,320 moments from that time? Oh, you know, I was, I kept 1248 00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,600 going back to it's kind of a gimmick episode, but I really 1249 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,240 liked where they went to the Playboy Mansion and they created 1250 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,800 this little, you know, frenemy relationship with Ralph Macchio. 1251 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,800 That's right. Who's now back in movie theaters 1252 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,720 with Jackie Chan? Karate Kid? 1253 00:53:13,720 --> 00:53:15,920 Yeah. That's a fun episode. 1254 00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:18,480 I just watched. I just watched a great Ralph 1255 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,440 Macchio movie The other day. It was called Crossroads. 1256 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,920 You guys ever seen Crossroads? The Britney Spears movie. 1257 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,880 No, it's that's what I thought when it was suggested to me. 1258 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,680 But no, he's a Blues guitarist that has to he has to shred 1259 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,000 guitar to get a Blues harmonica guy's and. 1260 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,240 He's Britney Spears rival in Crossroads. 1261 00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:35,600 They're having a singing competition. 1262 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,160 No, he fucks Britney Spears in Crossroads. 1263 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,200 Yeah. No, no, no, he doesn't. 1264 00:53:39,240 --> 00:53:41,200 Was she like 16 and he was 30? No. 1265 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,240 It's a Walter Hill movie. This crossroads thing is like, 1266 00:53:43,240 --> 00:53:45,160 oh wow, from 1986 to a Walter Hill movie. 1267 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,800 It's actually pretty damn good. I expected it to be like, really 1268 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,920 hokey, and it is. But it's like, you know, 1269 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,120 tastefully in that way. But yeah, he's, he is. 1270 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,160 He is back, apparently. I saw him on that when I went to 1271 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:56,800 the movies yesterday. I saw a big picture of Ralph 1272 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,640 Macchio. I was like, I almost had a 1273 00:53:58,640 --> 00:53:59,680 seizure. It was crazy. 1274 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,200 They they shot that movie in my old school, my primary school, 1275 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,600 you know, like this one. No, no, no, no, no. 1276 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,280 The new the new, new Karate Kid. I gotcha. 1277 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,560 Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Post Jackie Chan Jackie Chan 1278 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:12,760 Post Post. Jaden Yeah. 1279 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,800 And that, that pisses me off because I was talking with the 1280 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,960 school to shoot there and they're like, yeah, let me, 1281 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,200 we're going to put you in touch. We're going to, we're going to 1282 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,000 put you in touch with our guy. And the guy never responded to 1283 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,480 me. And then and then I, I see this 1284 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,080 movie and they shot Karate Kid, which is like you are. 1285 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:31,200 Jackie Chan, dude, no. But that's it really. 1286 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,360 It really sucks to see institutions of higher learning, 1287 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,960 you know, primary. I'm a fucking alum, dude. 1288 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,520 I I literally, I literally said that I was like, yeah, when? 1289 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,240 Ari Gold, when Ari Gold's trying to get his kid into that school, 1290 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:44,640 right? That's how he had to treat that 1291 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,640 situation, yeah. The principal's home and say, 1292 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,680 please, I'm begging you. Yeah, no, it just, it just sucks 1293 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,240 to see a higher institution of learning like that. 1294 00:54:53,240 --> 00:54:56,200 Bend for the money, bend for the big, big business right there. 1295 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,960 I I I think that sort of sucks. And then they say in the trailer 1296 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,240 like, hey, you're in New York now, you're in America. 1297 00:55:01,240 --> 00:55:02,840 And then they shoot this in the Montreal school. 1298 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,120 It's such a phony poser little piece of shit. 1299 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,400 Movie thing Canada for New York. Oh, love it, dude. 1300 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,880 Yeah, and Oh my other actually, I think maybe my favorite 1301 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,040 episode I've seen so far. It's stupid and hokey, but I had 1302 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,480 my reasons for loving it. Is the nerd con convention. 1303 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,720 Year. Quest where it's the only I like 1304 00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:25,920 it when Johnny Drama gets to actually where he's actually 1305 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,520 right about how famous he is in a certain times and it happens 1306 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,440 twice so far where when they go to Cannes and he's France. 1307 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,080 Viking Quest is huge and. Which is my favorite episode of 1308 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:35,680 the show I'm pretty sure. It's pretty great. 1309 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,440 And then, but then this one where you have Rainn Wilson, the 1310 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:42,360 evil comic Blogger, where most of the time was, was an HBO 1311 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,000 alum. He was in Six Feet Under, I 1312 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:49,600 believe, and he it's so good because Mandy Moore and Adrian 1313 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,200 or Mandy Moore and Vinny Chase had a had a thing and there's a 1314 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,000 whole relationship thing and and Vinny gets knocked off his cool 1315 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,880 guy stuff for a little bit because of Mandy Moore. 1316 00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,240 Which dude? Come on. 1317 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,800 If I remember right, I feel like this is ripped from reality 1318 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,080 because there was a whole controversy with Ain't It Cool 1319 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:10,640 News, which was like the premium nerd blog media press site 1320 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:14,840 online during that time. And, you know, they had the 1321 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,840 ability to kind of like, make or break the narrative on certain 1322 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,400 films. And, you know, you're watching 1323 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,680 this in 2025. And it would seem like, you 1324 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,000 know, something we didn't really get into is Vinny has a 1325 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,840 resistance against playing Aquaman. 1326 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,400 And I feel like in 2025, if you get offered any of these movies, 1327 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,080 you're taking that without question just because you know 1328 00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:38,920 the dump truck of money is going to back up to your house and 1329 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,480 you're going to have a lot more opportunities. 1330 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:41,760 I mean, you're. Taking Matterhorn, you're 1331 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,920 accepting Matterhorn too. Yes, yeah. 1332 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,960 I mean, DC you're you're you're clearly artistic integrity first 1333 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,560 guy. But surely if they came to you 1334 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:54,800 and said, hey, we want you for Doctor Strange 3, Surely we're 1335 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,560 getting the DC directed Doctor Strange 3, right? 1336 00:56:57,720 --> 00:56:59,560 It can't be worse than universal madness. 1337 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:00,560 So let's do it. Yeah, let's. 1338 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:05,080 OK, there you go. So multiverse, he's like, I 1339 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,920 don't want to worry. Your costume, what is it? 1340 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,200 Halloween? You know I'm not going to dress 1341 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,120 his Aquaman, and he's not. Jacked either what it was really 1342 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,840 funny to see, like because he's really not jacked at all, or. 1343 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,600 Athletic, by the way, Or athletic? 1344 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:17,200 Yeah, he. Moved. 1345 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,960 He's like movement is not like a star in any way. 1346 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,160 I mean, he's got the face, obviously, but it's it's funny 1347 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:26,280 to see what like a star was back then as opposed to now where 1348 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,880 you're just like, you see, like the Rock playing. 1349 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,080 What's his name? Mark Henry? 1350 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:31,320 Or what's the guy's name? The, the. 1351 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,200 Yeah. Like I I just mean to be a star 1352 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,440 now you have to to just be like Tom Hardy got fucking swole for 1353 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,320 Bane and like all this and Vinny Chase is like that's fine to 1354 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,400 play Aquaman like that. I kind of missed that when you 1355 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,440 just had a gossip. It's a different. 1356 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,560 World, I mean, you look at the superhero movies of the time, 1357 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,200 what you have like Spider Man, obviously. 1358 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,400 And Spiderman's really the only one that was successful during 1359 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,160 that time from the X-Men movies. So there's like a reason to not 1360 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,400 be completely on board. Yeah. 1361 00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,880 And you have Hugh Jackman, you have Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, 1362 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,000 who eventually for Logan I think got Jacked, but he didn't look 1363 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,920 that. If I could be wrong, the 1st he 1364 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,800 doesn't look that jacked. No, he doesn't look jacked at 1365 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,280 all. In fact, he looks kind of soy. 1366 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,600 He's just a small guy with like heavy sideburns. 1367 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,640 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, you know which movie I 1368 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:16,800 used? I used to love that. 1369 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,680 The one where he goes to Japan. That was such a sick movie. 1370 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,880 The Wolverine. 1. I think, I think it's called The 1371 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:24,280 Wolverine, Just Wolverine, something like that. 1372 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,640 It's one of the reboots where it's just about Wolverine and he 1373 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,040 goes to Japan. It's so sick. 1374 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,640 I've only seen Logan. So before Logan, I think it was 1375 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,800 the same director. They thought that was going to 1376 00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,640 be that movie. It was going to be like an adept 1377 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,520 of some comic and then to like make up for that because it 1378 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,240 wasn't critically well received. They're like, all right, we're 1379 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,280 going to do Logan. Don't worry, calm down, relax, 1380 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:43,800 relax. But. 1381 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:48,840 What I loved about I loved about the the Viking Quest convention 1382 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:53,280 episode was seeing actual nerds. Not, not now. 1383 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,760 Everybody's a nerd. Literally anybody that takes any 1384 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,280 interest in anything is either autistic and or a nerd. 1385 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,680 So it's just kind of this everybody, everybody loves 1386 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,760 Marvel now. Yeah, everybody loves that. 1387 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:04,920 There's no like there's not really. 1388 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,360 Everybody has a niche hobby, I guess is what I is what I mean. 1389 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,080 But seeing like an actual just goober, I think back then like a 1390 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:11,560 goober I think is the word I would use. 1391 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,560 And you're just like, wow, it's actually refreshing to see 1392 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,560 instead of now like where you just see like a, a jacked dude 1393 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:21,440 in like a flash shirt and you're just like, Nah, dude, you see 1394 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,280 that? I don't see it. 1395 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,000 It's such posturing. I don't believe it. 1396 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:29,200 Every fan of Marvel is Mexican. Well, it's sometimes it's a Jack 1397 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:29,840 Mexican. I don't. 1398 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,640 Know what to tell you No, no, no, that's that's that's what 1399 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,320 I'm saying. But I I'm sorry, this it sounds 1400 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,080 like not even a racial thing, but you know, Eris. 1401 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,040 Is a racial thing. It's all right though, go ahead 1402 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:39,920 but but. Eris Quinones. 1403 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:41,760 You know Eris Quinones. No. 1404 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,680 Such a terrible person to bring up. 1405 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,880 But that to me is the typical Marvel fan. 1406 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,640 He's like the guy who's like, he'll watch any trailer for 1407 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,600 Marvel or DC and he's going to be like, this is so exciting, 1408 00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,040 you know, like this is the best thing I've seen. 1409 00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,440 And then he does videos on his YouTube channel, which has like 1410 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,240 1,000,000 of followers where it's like the secret back story 1411 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,160 of Zam Zaboor, the background character in the Daredevil 1412 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:02,960 trailer. And it's it's about the comics. 1413 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,440 I don't know, to me, that is the nerd. 1414 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,840 That is the person who really cares about that stuff to degree 1415 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,440 where it becomes religious. It's not even about what The 1416 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,080 thing is anymore. It's about the principle of 1417 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,280 having comic book characters. And he loves it so much. 1418 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,120 That's that's a nerd. One, I think during COVID, a lot 1419 01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,160 of people just got niche hobbies. 1420 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,520 Like I know people who got into Marvel because it was on Disney 1421 01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,880 Plus and it was accessible and they had nothing to do but watch 1422 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,080 every Marvel movie. There were accompanying 1423 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,280 podcasts, U.S. media that would talk about it and then they 1424 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,320 would you people would emerge out of their hideout and they 1425 01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:33,800 would be like, I'd be like, you're a Marvel fan now. 1426 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,280 They're like, I always have been actually. 1427 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,880 And like, no, I know exactly how you got into it. 1428 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,760 It's fine to admit that. It's totally fine to admit that. 1429 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,440 I just, I just laughed because you look at these people and 1430 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:44,920 you're like, I don't know when people used to watch like 1431 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,960 Battlestar Galactica, like like actual nerd shows. 1432 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,760 And whereas on my baseball team, if I said I watched Battlestar 1433 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,080 Galactica, people would be like, are you fucking kidding me, 1434 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:54,480 dude? Whereas I don't think that's the 1435 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,800 case now you'll see like NFL players are like I love of one 1436 01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,560 piece and you're just like no fucking way, like like there's 1437 01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,680 no way like. So it's just it was nice to see 1438 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,400 like what you saw as like an actual nerd, like the school at 1439 01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:11,760 your nerd with the wolf T-shirt, like the howling, like the wolf 1440 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,200 howling at the moon, which now that's an ironic like. 1441 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,080 Yeah. Fashion thing in its own where I 1442 01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,720 just it was just I was like, man, that's exactly how it used 1443 01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:20,920 to be. We actually I I hate to say it 1444 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:24,600 was like a segregated society, the nerds and all that stuff and 1445 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,440 they didn't try to fit in with cool kids. 1446 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,000 They just like no hang out with the other nerds. 1447 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,080 Oh, it's. It's a mutual aberration 1448 01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:31,680 society, OK, they really hate each other. 1449 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,840 They despise, really despise. It's not like the nerds want to 1450 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,040 be. Of course, maybe in their head 1451 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,080 they want to be cool, but it's it's never the like just the 1452 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:42,160 cool kids hating the nerds and the nerds think the cool kids 1453 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,360 are dumb and jocks and stupid and wash their, their, their, 1454 01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,000 their hair with, with mud, you know? 1455 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:51,280 I used to walk by this school all the time and I don't know if 1456 01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,160 you had this low rest since we're about the same age, like 1457 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,440 where you walk by and you tell the kids playing Counter strike 1458 01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,560 in the in the room. Did you ever have that like a 1459 01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,520 computer room? We had a computer room where 1460 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,160 kids at lunch, I think the teacher was just cool and they 1461 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,720 were all playing Counter strike. They didn't say a fucking word. 1462 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,840 They'd get out of the class. I didn't know any of those kids 1463 01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,800 names or anything. I'd have you'd have to look in 1464 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,080 the yearbook when the year came out. 1465 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,880 But they all had that like community of like Counter Strike 1466 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:17,600 kind of for and this is before FPS was like a huge thing where 1467 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,360 everyone played Call of Duty Black Ops. 1468 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:20,840 These kids would play this all the time. 1469 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:22,040 You're like, that was a friend group. 1470 01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,440 I don't know if they even talk to each other ever or anything. 1471 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,680 But it was just, it was like I have, they wouldn't let me in if 1472 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,640 I tried. So my school didn't have that 1473 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:34,360 because all the computers were barred from having any sort of 1474 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:38,320 game except for what was like the generic one that was like a 1475 01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,240 purple background and every single computer had it baked in 1476 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,960 on it like minesweep style gaming, you know? 1477 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:48,240 But there was a collective of kids at my school who after 1478 01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,720 school were professional Super Smash Brothers players. 1479 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,200 And they were like the really stinky kids, you know? 1480 01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:57,640 And one was particularly successful. 1481 01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,160 He's like, I got hundreds of millions of dollars now. 1482 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:01,920 Moved to San Francisco like right after high. 1483 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,680 School, you have to tell me. I'll go fucking find him and 1484 01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:05,920 beat his. Eye, I'll give you his name. 1485 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:06,880 I'll. Give you his name. 1486 01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:08,800 I just go fight him for no reason. 1487 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:13,240 But that that was basically the version that existed in my 1488 01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,280 sphere of things, you know? Yeah, that's that's 40 miles 1489 01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:17,760 from me, dude. That's nothing. 1490 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:47,000 From the five to the six, I grew up in the liberal 1491 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,280 Canadian education system. So we had computers, a ton of 1492 01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,040 them, and all of them had one game called Machinim. 1493 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,600 If you know Machinium, it's the lamest game of all time. 1494 01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:57,720 You're like a robot. It's a pointed click game. 1495 01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,320 You have to solve clues. And I was a gamer at the time. 1496 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:04,080 I was mortal combating every night, but I I could not play 1497 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:05,400 that game. It sucks so bad. 1498 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:06,720 Look at me. If you're listening to this 1499 01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,480 show, check out Machinium. Guarantee you we have a lot of 1500 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,040 Canadian listeners. I guarantee you they're like. 1501 01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,760 Dick dude, I hate machinium so fucking because you're this like 1502 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:15,960 goofy ass robot. It's like wall-e before wall-e 1503 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,640 and then you have to Click to open bridges and like esteem. 1504 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,200 It's like a steam punk 2 as well. 1505 01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,360 So it's like, it's like you're doing like steam turbine puzzle. 1506 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,920 I hate it so much man. Was it, was it like a little 1507 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,360 autism thing? Like was it kind of like a like 1508 01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:32,120 a geared for the autistic? Brain No social programming bro. 1509 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,480 Everybody had to play machinima. It was the the one thing we had 1510 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,080 on the computer. Yeah, I don't know what it was 1511 01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,480 we had. I don't it wasn't even IMAX or 1512 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,640 anything. They they were like regular old, 1513 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:44,680 like PCs or whatever, but kids were in there and I'm like, 1514 01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,600 damn, this is crazy. Like post Columbine they're 1515 01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,080 letting kids play like fucking shooting. 1516 01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:49,240 Games. Yeah, like. 1517 01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,840 And they and the kids kind of looked like, you know, they 1518 01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:53,720 would do something like. This so they were white kids OK 1519 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,600 this is the difference is. All they're Asian. 1520 01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:57,160 They're Asians there. Were a lot of Asians too? 1521 01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,640 Yeah, 50. Almost like 50% of the city that 1522 01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,200 I went to high school in was Asian, which is why there was a 1523 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:03,920 big Nintendo band I would assume. 1524 01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,160 There you go. Yeah, that's true. 1525 01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:07,600 That's a good. Point in high school there was a 1526 01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,880 League of Legends that's also a big big in Japan wasn't. 1527 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,960 That like 4 years ago, no? No, no, no, No, no, No. 1528 01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,320 Is this another risk on my my youth? 1529 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,600 High school is far behind, OK. It's not even close. 1530 01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:22,920 It's not even close. Yeah. 1531 01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,240 You see these scars? Yeah. 1532 01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:25,760 Yeah. There you. 1533 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,040 Go So the yeah, the Mandy Moore thing. 1534 01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:31,320 I was glad when that was over. I was getting her off my fucking 1535 01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,520 screen, dude. Like, sorry, I was done done 1536 01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,320 with her just. Ignore me, actress man. 1537 01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,040 I don't want to see that. I want to see the crazies. 1538 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:41,240 I don't want to see the female agent Luca Guadagnino. 1539 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:43,560 What's your name? What's your fucking name? 1540 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:46,160 Beverly D'Angelo. Carla Gugino. 1541 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,680 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's that's Twist. 1542 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,400 That's a great character. Mamma Mia. 1543 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:52,440 Yeah. Sorry. 1544 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:53,480 Go ahead. No, you're right. 1545 01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,840 I mean, that was very worthy of bringing up. 1546 01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,560 Yeah, that was that was nice. But yeah, that you know, in 1547 01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,720 Season 2 there's I'm trying to think what there's not because 1548 01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,000 these are these are short because season 3 is the big one. 1549 01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,280 Season 3. Yeah, Why is it 20 episode? 1550 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,440 I I'm I don't know. I'm not arguing with it. 1551 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,320 I just like that's a weird for one season to have 20. 1552 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,480 Episode This was 2006, right? And I believe there was like a 1553 01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,440 year break in between, was there not? 1554 01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,560 It does seem it seems like there's a stopping point for 1555 01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,640 sure in the season. I feel like. 1556 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,160 They Sopranos it were 'cause I heard of HBO used to do a thing 1557 01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,840 where if you called it a second another season, they didn't have 1558 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,080 to pay a bonus for the actors for getting renewed. 1559 01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,520 So interesting. Yeah, it could be that. 1560 01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:36,720 I learned that from the David Chase documentary they were 1561 01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:38,720 talking about that they said basically the reason Sopranos 1562 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,000 season, I think 6 is 2 parts. It's really two seasons. 1563 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,840 It got, it was filmed as though it was a second another season 1564 01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:46,560 time off and everything but the actor. 1565 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,560 HBO is notoriously cheap, especially back then. 1566 01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,280 I don't know if they are still are, but they they were 1567 01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,160 notoriously cheap. So maybe they did something like 1568 01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:55,680 that where they're like, this show's getting big. 1569 01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,640 Let's see if we can skim a little off the top. 1570 01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,720 Depending on what year it was, you know, there was a writer's 1571 01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,800 strike that occurred sometime around then. 1572 01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,840 And I don't know if that would be the reason why, but a lot of 1573 01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:11,000 shows had a pause or they would have to like double up on on. 1574 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:15,360 You know, I remember with CBS in particular, you tuned in and 1575 01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,200 suddenly they were playing Dexter, which is not Acbs show. 1576 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,680 They were playing like APG version of Dexter that was 1577 01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:25,520 edited for primetime television. You know, and it could be 1578 01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,960 something like that. I'm not I'm not certain why. 1579 01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,720 Maybe you just also got a huge bump in viewership. 1580 01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:32,600 I I don't know what the gap would have been. 1581 01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,320 Yeah, I or I'd like, like I said, that was probably around 1582 01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:37,800 the same time as Sopranos ending. 1583 01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,760 So maybe that was just what HBO was doing that year was was just 1584 01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:42,360 around that. Yeah, that's interesting. 1585 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,000 So that but it's it's I think it's awesome. 1586 01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,400 The season 3. It's just every you get, we get 1587 01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,120 we get our we get Billy Walsh, we get a lot, we get we get 1588 01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:51,120 Billy Walsh. He's back. 1589 01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:54,040 I mean, I, you miss him so much by the time you're like, I like, 1590 01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:55,320 is he just not going to come back? 1591 01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:58,040 I was like so bummed, but the way you were talking about him, 1592 01:07:58,040 --> 01:07:59,520 the child was like, he has to come back at some. 1593 01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,200 Yeah, like there's no way you were just excited about him for 1594 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:05,760 like 1 episode because I got excited about the Chinese energy 1595 01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,400 drink commercial guy from a while back. 1596 01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,160 And I was like, that's that's low res. 1597 01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,000 He's the Chinese energy. Drink commercial guy. 1598 01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,880 We didn't say who he was. Who do you think he is? 1599 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,960 Who's Jay? Who like no, I mean. 1600 01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,160 He's he's, he's. A he's RE. 1601 01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,720 He's like a RE gold. I think like hybrid, you're a 1602 01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,600 hybrid character. Because I've had, listen, I'll 1603 01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,279 tell you on a project that DC and I worked on, there were a 1604 01:08:27,279 --> 01:08:30,200 lot of phone calls where I was definitely channelling RE gold, 1605 01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,720 you know, so I, I could feel that. 1606 01:08:33,399 --> 01:08:35,760 I know that Masshole can just come out of you at some point, 1607 01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:38,680 you know, like it's, it's not there all the time, but I bet, I 1608 01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:40,120 bet somebody could bring it out. Oh no. 1609 01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,399 It's deeply suppressed, you know, but it is ready. 1610 01:08:42,399 --> 01:08:43,760 To come out DC, bring it out of you or? 1611 01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:47,000 No, no, DC is a dream. Of course he is. 1612 01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,319 Dreamboat. Handsome guy. 1613 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,120 Although here's playing Genium Machinium. 1614 01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:53,920 Really. I'm I'm, I'm, I'm getting fatter 1615 01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:55,000 everyday. Brothers, you don't even 1616 01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:56,240 understand. I thought I was lean. 1617 01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:57,760 I thought I was lean. That I saw a picture of myself. 1618 01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:58,840 I'm like, what? You know, fish. 1619 01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:00,680 You're not that fish for compliments on record. 1620 01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,200 No, no, no, no, no. But that the whole brother, 1621 01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,200 brother, brother. Brother, I'm getting I'm this is 1622 01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,040 getting nasty. I'm I'm buying nut butter. 1623 01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:07,040 You know what? Nut butter. 1624 01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,080 Yeah, I tell you, I've been smoking pot since I was fucking 1625 01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:12,359 13. Of course I know it. 1626 01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:13,439 Nut butter. I can get a whole jar. 1627 01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,439 I probably have. Of of what? 1628 01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,080 Of which one? Damn it. 1629 01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:18,760 OK, that's the thing. Because, you know, peanut 1630 01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:20,560 butter, obviously everybody knows about peanut butter 1631 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,399 except. But then, yeah. 1632 01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:23,560 Yeah. But then, but then there's this 1633 01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:27,160 pistachio flavored and this is not a sponsorship or whatever. 1634 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,760 It's just so delicious. It's like pistachio peanut 1635 01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:31,240 butter, but it's with pistachios. 1636 01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,279 So the peanuts, Glenn focus please, when I'm talking about 1637 01:09:34,279 --> 01:09:36,080 nut butter. No, he's trying to order some 1638 01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:36,640 right now. He's. 1639 01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,240 Very no. I I had to get some information. 1640 01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:40,960 I do know about nut. I do know about. 1641 01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,080 So you're eating entire jars of nut butter is. 1642 01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:43,920 That what I mean. They're small. 1643 01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:47,880 They're small, but yeah. You're like you're like I that's 1644 01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,279 what sigh does. He's like dude I am losing it. 1645 01:09:50,279 --> 01:09:52,399 I had fucking 4 kettle chips the other day. 1646 01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:55,360 I'm like. But sigh is actually obese. 1647 01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,280 It's different. I think it's it's not the same 1648 01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:58,240 you. Don't know anything about him 1649 01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,240 dude. But on the on the video maybe? 1650 01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:03,320 Maybe I have I weigh more than him. 1651 01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,040 Oh. I do I weigh more? 1652 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,200 Same height I'm. A little tall, smidge taller, 1653 01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,960 yeah, smidge, yeah. I got, I have a wide build. 1654 01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,200 I have a wide build. So I can I, when I get fat, it's 1655 01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,520 Vince Vaughn. Oh, that's cool. 1656 01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:18,720 It's, it's actually, that's a good fact. 1657 01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:22,800 Actually, it's exactly it why it kind of distributes evenly, you 1658 01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:26,360 know, like, like, so it like, 'cause I, I, my biggest, I got, 1659 01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:31,240 I got to 2:15 at my biggest. And I, I mean, I don't think 1660 01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,640 anybody cares about this, but I got, I got, maybe they do 1661 01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,920 actually, but I got, I got like to 2:15 and I looked and it all, 1662 01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,400 it took one picture when I was like this and I was like, fuck. 1663 01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,400 And that's how I saw it. But if I had a big protruding 1664 01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:46,120 gut then I would have lost it away way earlier, you know? 1665 01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,400 That's always the tipping point I feel is like you take a 1666 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,840 picture of yourself and then a week or two later you check it 1667 01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:52,840 out and you look like a fat piece of shit. 1668 01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:55,800 It's like, oh, I hate myself so much I get a star. 1669 01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,480 Being tagged and it's the worst. Oh yeah. 1670 01:10:58,480 --> 01:11:01,800 Oh, yeah, Jay knows about this. Jay, I know I got scolded for 1671 01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:02,800 this. When When we? 1672 01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:04,840 It's not scolded. It's just like you take the, you 1673 01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,480 take a man, you know? And why did you post those fat 1674 01:11:07,480 --> 01:11:10,000 ugly photos of me, you fucking asshole? 1675 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,680 Because look, at least get me from the side profile like 1676 01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:13,880 Johnny drama. I have a good side. 1677 01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:17,160 If you do the the full profile thing, it's just going to be a a 1678 01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:20,240 wrecked, you know, a wretched disgusting picture there. 1679 01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:21,320 I. Don't I don't think they were 1680 01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,520 that bad. It was listen, you know how the 1681 01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,960 iPhone does the distort on the sides when it's a wide enough 1682 01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,000 picture that's. Real I was I was dead centre. 1683 01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,320 I was dead centre on the picture there that's not that's not 1684 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:31,600 real. It doesn't matter. 1685 01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:32,600 Let's move on. It's. 1686 01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,480 Good, you were very short in the Ralph Sepi junior group photos. 1687 01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:37,960 All this. That was like a Joe Biden 1688 01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:39,600 meeting the Carters thing, right? 1689 01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,360 That was, that was not, that was not. 1690 01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:43,680 That's that's OK. That's cool. 1691 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,640 Sort of like in that David Lynch ass picture. 1692 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:49,280 Like, I don't know why that's. The yeah, that's the weirdest. 1693 01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:50,920 Fucking thing. I forgot about that. 1694 01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:54,040 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it kind of sounds like 1695 01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,600 DC you're you're trying to embrace your turtle here if 1696 01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,200 you're eating a lot of nut butter. 1697 01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,080 No. And that that's that's the thing 1698 01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:01,520 as well, Like turtle, Turtle to me. 1699 01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:02,880 He got lean, by the way, and he didn't. 1700 01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:04,480 Get cool. By the way, Yeah, I was looking 1701 01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:07,400 at the movie interviews. He looks the he aged the best 1702 01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,840 out of any of the four of them, you know. 1703 01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:12,400 I mean, yeah, I don't know. I think Adrian Greeninger looks 1704 01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:13,400 pretty fucking. Good. 1705 01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,600 Well, yeah, of course. But he had yeah, going for him 1706 01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,160 to begin with. You know, it's not as 1707 01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:18,680 impressive. Yeah, he could. 1708 01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:22,360 Like, he could never be like. He would have to do like, like 1709 01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,720 Mickey Rourke shit to like, be ugly, you know what I mean? 1710 01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:25,080 Yeah. Yeah. 1711 01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,400 So that would make sense. He's also the type of look this 1712 01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,720 is parasocial. I don't know this but it seems 1713 01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,800 he seems to me the type of celebrity that doesn't drink or 1714 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:35,520 doesn't do anything, but I don't know why he. 1715 01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,480 Said he had substance abuse. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1716 01:12:38,480 --> 01:12:40,080 Good stuff. And childhood drama too, I'm 1717 01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:40,600 assuming. Right? 1718 01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:42,520 Like, yeah. But he would never. 1719 01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,560 It was funny like because they asked him on that on that 1720 01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:46,160 victory. It's I think it's Doug Ellen was 1721 01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,320 hosting it and he was like, so yeah, like where you been and 1722 01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:49,880 stuff. And he's like, well, I, I really 1723 01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:51,640 had to just get off the grid for a little bit. 1724 01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,200 And I really. And I had these demons and like, 1725 01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:55,640 oh, yeah. And they're like trying to be 1726 01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,840 polite, like not asking what the demons are, but he keeps 1727 01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,040 bringing up the demons and. But demons and like literal 1728 01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:03,360 demons. Yeah, I know. 1729 01:13:03,480 --> 01:13:07,120 He's like, what are they? And he goes, oh, massive 1730 01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:10,440 substance abuse and and then he's like, it was like cool guy 1731 01:13:10,440 --> 01:13:14,440 Nofap where it's like I was just having sex a lot and busting too 1732 01:13:14,440 --> 01:13:17,760 much like as opposed to as opposed to like why you would 1733 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:21,000 actually need to do Nofap. Like it's really funny. 1734 01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,320 It's it's it cracked me up. But anyways, yeah, Turtle looks 1735 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,480 good when you when you when you see him now. 1736 01:13:26,480 --> 01:13:29,480 I I think I mean he's kind of like when he's like about to 1737 01:13:29,480 --> 01:13:34,680 fuck Lauren, Lauren London in in of the black mechanics daughter 1738 01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,840 or whatever, Like when he's like about to get you're just like, 1739 01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,120 get out of here, dude, you're not that funny. 1740 01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:42,360 Like, you know, like. That's The thing is, well, every 1741 01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:44,840 time they're like they imply that Turtle gets laid, which is 1742 01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,840 very funny to me because he's not charming and even his 1743 01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:51,520 closest the the girl who's there in the context right, is already 1744 01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:54,880 close to Vince Turtle can no longer provide any service 1745 01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,200 whatsoever. But for some reason, oh, come 1746 01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,680 on, I'm, you know, he always does this and it, it works out, 1747 01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:01,520 which is so unrealistic in this show, you know? 1748 01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:04,520 Here's what I'll say. You know, I won't throw the baby 1749 01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,040 out with the bathwater here because I feel like during that 1750 01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:10,200 time period, I certainly knew a lot of wiggers who were pretty 1751 01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,280 similar to Turtle. And listen, they weren't they 1752 01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:16,560 weren't, you know, knocking out the top bar like maybe he is for 1753 01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,600 some episode, but they would do pretty well for themselves 1754 01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,640 without much of anything to offer. 1755 01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:25,200 So I, you know, I don't know, I it wasn't too detached from. 1756 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:28,240 And that that tall T shit used to really hide A lot. 1757 01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:30,400 Like it was kind of our yoga pants for guys back. 1758 01:14:30,440 --> 01:14:33,080 In the day like it was. Kind of when I was like, no one 1759 01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,720 knew what fat guys were for like 5 years. 1760 01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,600 Gee, like your friend, like you'd, you'd go to like Vegas or 1761 01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:41,640 whatever and you'd hit like the pools and stuff and be like holy 1762 01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:43,520 shit, my friend's been fat this whole fucking time. 1763 01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,200 This is crazy. They would all wear this but 3 1764 01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:49,640 XL. Three XL you know, you never 1765 01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:52,040 really see that when you're young you don't get the neck 1766 01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,080 thing like when you're that's like when you get older so like 1767 01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,520 you're the kind of fat that you get is like there you can grow a 1768 01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,440 beard too. You know, there's all sorts of 1769 01:14:59,440 --> 01:15:02,760 ways around that neck fat thing. So but Turtle legit looks fat 1770 01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:04,200 when he's wearing the catcher in season 1. 1771 01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:07,000 He's wearing the the catchers thing and the dog bites him. 1772 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,560 It's very slapstick and silly. It's kind of kind of dumb, to be 1773 01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:11,160 honest. I mean really all he had to do 1774 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:15,280 was drop about 30 lbs and then take the hat off so his head has 1775 01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:16,960 like more. He's a handsome guy. 1776 01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,400 He's like, yeah, he's a handsome guy. 1777 01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,680 Like in the way like he's better looking than Kevin Dillon. 1778 01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:24,760 Yeah, I get. Yeah, yeah, I'll agree. 1779 01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,200 Matt, Matt, it's it's rough because like Matt Dillon's the 1780 01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,120 like Chad guy, you know, out of the family. 1781 01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,480 And I love I again, I'm I'm pro Johnny drama. 1782 01:15:31,480 --> 01:15:34,840 But now, yeah, I I can see, I can see myself becoming anti 1783 01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:36,880 Johnny Drama. After we get a few, a few 1784 01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,880 watches in a few, a few months and moments, you know, and then 1785 01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,440 yeah. This is only Part 1 of the The 1786 01:15:42,440 --> 01:15:45,160 Entourage saga that's going to. We're doing 10 and we're doing 1787 01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,720 10, yeah. We're doing Korean. 1788 01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:49,920 I want to do Korean entourage. I really do. 1789 01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,400 Well, we have to do Ari. We have to do Ari the movie. 1790 01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:56,160 Ari the Movie. Is that the goods The used car 1791 01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:59,520 salesman? Comedy on Doug Ellen's IMDb Ari 1792 01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,520 the Movie. Ari the Movie. 1793 01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,160 It I'm just saying I don't know what if it exists or not. 1794 01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,280 It's just there. It's on his thing. 1795 01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,520 We have to track down Doug Ellen and get a copy of that right 1796 01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,480 now. Ari Gold like movie apparently I 1797 01:16:10,480 --> 01:16:13,520 have no idea if it's real. I I I just when you Google Doug 1798 01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:15,720 Ellen like what he's done because I look and it's all 1799 01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,840 these like how high tier like black people comedies, which I 1800 01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:20,280 thought was funny. I was like, that's crazy that 1801 01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:21,880 Doug Ellen's writing these and oh. 1802 01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:23,800 Doug Ellen's done. With the culture, let's say that 1803 01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:27,840 I mean season 3, you're right because season 3 or season 4 of 1804 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,960 entourage is when all the rappers come in Kanye and you 1805 01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:34,400 have Mary J Blige, you have all you have all those people that 1806 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,280 come in and Snoop, of course and the. 1807 01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:39,400 Soundtrack Oh let's Snoop is a big topic here, but definitely 1808 01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,680 even the soundtrack and they got Jay-Z on the soundtrack. 1809 01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:46,800 You have, you know, others. Oh, one of my favorite moments, 1810 01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,400 and I think it's from season 3, one of my favorite moments 1811 01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,080 because it was a literally me moment. 1812 01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:53,160 Unfortunately, it's a turtle that was literally me in this 1813 01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,320 situation. But he's just smoking weed by 1814 01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:59,360 himself in a room and Jay Dilla's won't do is is playing 1815 01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,080 in the background. I'm like, I literally did that 1816 01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,640 in 2007, like by myself, not in a nice, but he's in a much nicer 1817 01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,600 room than I was. But you know, I was in one of 1818 01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:10,120 those weird like busted leather Craigslist couch fucking houses 1819 01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,400 doing that, you know, slat slatted blinds. 1820 01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:15,240 And so, yeah, I mean a little different, but it was literally. 1821 01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,760 So is that what is there? Is there a share screen option 1822 01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,320 in this app? I don't know if you have. 1823 01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,000 Apps present. I think it's present. 1824 01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:24,840 Screen. Oh, can you do, can you do that? 1825 01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:30,000 OK, yeah, yeah, if you can, because I think there's AI don't 1826 01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:31,840 think you're getting that. Oh, oh, I see. 1827 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:32,880 I have to add it. All right. 1828 01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:37,080 Here we go dude, Ramble on. This looks like it's like AI 1829 01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:39,600 before AI. It's like GBT 1, you know? 1830 01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:44,160 Is that Joe Estevez? I don't know which one it is. 1831 01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,760 I don't think it's the on cinema guy, but that's the thing. 1832 01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:48,920 It's the weekend. There's the weekend on there. 1833 01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:51,640 The basically, yeah, Mark Cuban is. 1834 01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:54,280 What? Oh, of course. 1835 01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:54,800 Yeah. Sorry, did you? 1836 01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,480 What a crazy cast. Here they have the yeah, the 1837 01:17:57,480 --> 01:17:59,800 guys from Entourage and the Charlie Sheen called Ramble On. 1838 01:17:59,920 --> 01:18:02,080 Floating head. That looks like a reality show 1839 01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:05,200 that's about to happen. Coming soon 2022. 1840 01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:07,600 It's it's on. It's on IMDb so I'm assuming. 1841 01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:09,520 Oh, sorry, did you still want the IMDb? 1842 01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:11,240 Yeah, go ahead. No, no, it's all right. 1843 01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:12,400 Sorry. Just I mean look at I. 1844 01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:14,680 Is this for you? Is that his podcast? 1845 01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,360 Yeah, I think that's what it is. Yeah. 1846 01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:19,600 I think that's the podcast. I no. 1847 01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:20,360 Well, maybe. You don't. 1848 01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:21,720 You don't get the headphones, He's got the. 1849 01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:22,880 Headphones. Yeah, he's got the headphones. 1850 01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,200 You're right. But Jamie. 1851 01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:26,920 Jamie Lynn Siegler. Well. 1852 01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:29,240 You're not got, you haven't gotten there yet. 1853 01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:30,800 That's a big thing in Entourage as well. 1854 01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,120 She has a major role in Entourage. 1855 01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,360 Oh. Good Doug Allen has a cameo and 1856 01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:38,520 entourage when Johnny Drama is performing for the CSI spin off, 1857 01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:39,840 right? Yes, yes, yes. 1858 01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:41,000 That's a great, that's a great scene. 1859 01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:44,520 Also his son I believe is the Ari's kid if I'm not mistaken. 1860 01:18:45,440 --> 01:18:46,440 Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. 1861 01:18:46,440 --> 01:18:49,640 That's Doug Allen's son. I'm just, I'm captured. 1862 01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:51,520 This is, this is a movie. This is not a podcast. 1863 01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:54,320 This is. Am I not sharing anymore? 1864 01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:55,880 I don't. No, you are. 1865 01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:57,680 I'm just, I'm trying to figure out what the fuck this is. 1866 01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,480 It's like the end of Sopranos when you think Tony is going to 1867 01:19:01,480 --> 01:19:03,400 die. Yeah, I was going to say it's 1868 01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:06,000 the painting where that you have like the Godfather, Tony 1869 01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:10,640 Soprano, Scarface. Michael Corleone, Tony Soprano, 1870 01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:14,280 Tony Al Pacino twice. Yeah, Absolutely, Absolutely. 1871 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,040 Yeah. Well, that's, I mean, that's 1872 01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:17,000 excellent. Thanks for. 1873 01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,440 Can you, can you check on if there's an Ari Gold movie? 1874 01:19:19,440 --> 01:19:21,200 I thought I saw that. I thought like I was going to 1875 01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:23,040 add this to our watch list at some point. 1876 01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:24,960 For sure, but look at it's shot on film. 1877 01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:26,600 That's insane of. Course it is. 1878 01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:28,440 That's crazy. Why? 1879 01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,160 Dude how much dumb ass money went into this That's. 1880 01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,360 Now that's my thing as well. Of course I wasn't, I was born 1881 01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,400 in the wrong generation and everything, but I can't fathom 1882 01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,680 the just the, the resources that went into Entourage, especially 1883 01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:42,520 with how undoable. And I don't want to just repeat 1884 01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:43,760 that stuff. Like, of course we know it's 1885 01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,960 from the past, but the, the money, you know, the, the 1886 01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:49,200 resources, the, the effort it takes to make a whole show like 1887 01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,560 this go for so long is is really baffling. 1888 01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,000 I, I just think people had more patience, man. 1889 01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,760 Like I, I, I just, I just think people had more patience and 1890 01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,360 thought like I, I don't know about the budget. 1891 01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:02,920 I I have a feeling Mark Wahlberg put a lot of his own money into 1892 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,480 this shit too. Yeah, but even even that, I mean 1893 01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,600 just a song like you know, if you tried licensing songs or 1894 01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,720 whatever you're doing. But it wasn't hard back then. 1895 01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:13,080 It wasn't as hard back then to license songs, I don't think. 1896 01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:15,040 Especially for HBO, Probably, yeah. 1897 01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,480 Sopranos at the end of all these shows, they all have like 1898 01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:22,480 fucking like Tina Turner and like all these like like massive 1899 01:20:22,480 --> 01:20:24,160 songs. Like I think now it's weird. 1900 01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:26,360 You can like get any song on a streaming service, but you 1901 01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,840 cannot play it anywhere but where back then you like they 1902 01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,880 were pissed off about all the downloading services back then, 1903 01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,240 but you could like play it in public because you could use it. 1904 01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,200 They had a airplay. I know with radio, that's how 1905 01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,480 like radio gets away with everything is like there's a a 1906 01:20:39,480 --> 01:20:41,480 public airplay thing that happens. 1907 01:20:41,480 --> 01:20:43,880 And I'm sure that's what was, I'm sure they're paying money, 1908 01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,480 of course, for these songs. But yeah, they played Monkey Man 1909 01:20:46,480 --> 01:20:48,600 by Rolling Stones. There's massive in entourage. 1910 01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:50,480 Like it's like what? Like that's that. 1911 01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:53,320 It's like the Scorsese was using that for like departed, right? 1912 01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,840 Yeah, yeah. I mean, music licensing in DC, 1913 01:20:56,880 --> 01:21:00,200 maybe you can attest this is one of the more confusing aspects of 1914 01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:03,360 working on a movie because you have to jump through, like, 1915 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:07,160 sometimes a few different people when it comes to wanting to get 1916 01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:12,120 a song and be able to use it and make sure it's all clear for, 1917 01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:14,120 you know, you want to theatrically screen it, you want 1918 01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:17,400 to stream it, whatever. With HBO, obviously, they're 1919 01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:19,880 Warner Brothers, the Warner Brother Archive of Music. 1920 01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:23,000 Like, they have their own label. I'm sure that they just have all 1921 01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:26,120 these songs at their disposal, you know, so that's that's 1922 01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:29,080 probably a big element of it. And as far as you know what what 1923 01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:32,760 you said now, you know, music licensing is kind of in an 1924 01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:36,280 interesting place because there are these services where you 1925 01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:38,240 don't have to like go directly to anybody. 1926 01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:41,160 And it's like you want to clear this track for your YouTube 1927 01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:44,040 release. You can do it for 30 bucks or 80 1928 01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:47,320 bucks or whatever it might be, but then it stays on YouTube. 1929 01:21:47,480 --> 01:21:49,200 You know, it's like you're good for YouTube. 1930 01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:52,240 You have the best, most banging Entourage style soundtrack for 1931 01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,120 YouTube. This is going to be super 1932 01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,520 autistic and no one cares about this, but which song was that 1933 01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:57,600 for? Because that's not the 1934 01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:01,120 experience I've had at all. Well, I was trying to get a song 1935 01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:07,320 from David Johansen called New York Doll, the Mass State 1936 01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:09,640 Lottery that he did not remember doing. 1937 01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:12,520 He just died, didn't he? Yes, he did so his band was the 1938 01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:16,120 New York Dolls, but he did this song called New York Doll as 1939 01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,600 himself and it was featured on the soundtrack. 1940 01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:21,560 Not even I don't even think it was actually on the soundtrack 1941 01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,360 to Fear City. It was in some of the trailers 1942 01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:26,400 to Fear City. This able for our movie, which I 1943 01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,400 believe Warner Brothers put out. It was kind of a flop, but it 1944 01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:33,000 was like the one time he worked in the industry, you know, and 1945 01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,720 in in like a bigger capacity. And I love this. 1946 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,000 I thought like, the song is terrific. 1947 01:22:39,440 --> 01:22:42,200 And I had to go through him and then I had to go through Joe 1948 01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,960 D'elia, who wrote the song and actually had the rights to the 1949 01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:46,640 song. And it was this complicated 1950 01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:50,480 process where it just didn't didn't wind up resolving itself. 1951 01:22:50,480 --> 01:22:52,440 I was like, I can't use the song, you know? 1952 01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:55,960 No, I, I 'cause I assume it's different if you actually get in 1953 01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:58,080 touch with the artist. What I've done so far is that 1954 01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,600 every time I talk to the artist, then it's pretty easy. 1955 01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:03,120 We can get all that stuff done. Or if the person who owns the 1956 01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:06,160 rights at the label is very nice and yeah, willing to work with, 1957 01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,120 you know, like our type of budgets. 1958 01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:11,240 But man, the the most odd people. 1959 01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,560 And I know, Jay, you have the Mocha DOMA story. 1960 01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:15,360 That's a classic. I have a few as well. 1961 01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:18,840 The most, the oddest bands sometimes are asking from for 1962 01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:22,400 crazy stuff for crazy amounts of money, whereas more famous ones 1963 01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,120 will just be chill and and help you out and and, you know, work 1964 01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:27,080 something out, even if it doesn't work, at least you have 1965 01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:31,720 their information for later on. But yeah, I I one that surprised 1966 01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,920 me as well, especially in the circles that were, were not in. 1967 01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:37,440 But you know, like around it's it, it was it was nuts. 1968 01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,560 It was it was crazy just how much a smaller artist is asking 1969 01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:43,520 for for money for for festival like it. 1970 01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:45,440 Helps if there's not a lot, especially if you want rock 1971 01:23:45,440 --> 01:23:46,440 though. There's just not that many new 1972 01:23:46,440 --> 01:23:47,920 rock bands. That's what sucks. 1973 01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,080 Like it's like you think like that's the problem is that you 1974 01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:51,800 have to. I'm talking rock though. 1975 01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:53,800 Like dude, just regular old rock. 1976 01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:57,560 I I understand, but but we you're going to see an uptick in 1977 01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:01,120 the Orwell's features in independent cinema for at least 1978 01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:03,360 10 years. Ben because Mario's I don't want 1979 01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,600 to put this out there because there's already some pretty bad 1980 01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:09,680 stuff being made. Well, you know, but but I'm 1981 01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:12,640 telling you, like, he's, he's too generous with that catalog, 1982 01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:13,360 I think. Oh yeah. 1983 01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,080 Well, it's excellent. I mean, fucking it's excellent 1984 01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,320 music at least. Yeah, but no, you're right. 1985 01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:19,240 Like it's just like when it's like, damn, I'd really love like 1986 01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:22,000 a rock band. You're like, OK, 1977, let me 1987 01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:23,880 look for this. It's like nobody's doing that 1988 01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:25,800 right now. Whereas, you know, fucking 1989 01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:28,000 during entourage, you'll be cold, hard bitch. 1990 01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,320 And then it's on a lip. Now it's. 1991 01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,520 On yeah, it was. You had the new Jet song that 1992 01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:35,440 you could use. It was also featured in the 1993 01:24:35,480 --> 01:24:38,560 iPhone commercial or whatever. Like it was just, it was such a, 1994 01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:42,680 it was such a maximalist time. And I mean, you think if there's 1995 01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:46,320 lawyers legal all this stuff now, there was that back then, 1996 01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:49,560 but which felt like it was a lot, but there's much less back 1997 01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:51,440 then. I think I just, I don't know, I 1998 01:24:51,440 --> 01:24:53,080 think there was a lot of favors that were done back. 1999 01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,040 Yeah, well, that's the thing. It's I'm telling you, it's two 2000 01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:56,920 different games basically. Like no one cares about this, 2001 01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:00,160 but you get to the personal sort of. 2002 01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:01,600 We only have to deal with the paperwork. 2003 01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:02,920 When you talk to the artist, that's one thing. 2004 01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:06,080 And then you get as the like, oh, hello, big corporation, I'm 2005 01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:07,640 this small guy. I was not going to pay you as 2006 01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:09,400 much as fucking Arby's, you know? 2007 01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:11,560 But this is real art. And then you have to. 2008 01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:13,360 Ever want to take a? If you ever want to take a 2009 01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:20,000 chance on a kid's dream, you'll let me use Arctic Monkey Song. 2010 01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,560 You know what I don't know? If you ever want to watch some 2011 01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:26,880 slow cinema and you think that. Billy Walls. 2012 01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,440 Expand your horizons a bit. Yeah, so funny, yeah, but. 2013 01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:34,480 Oh my gosh, shout. Let's get back to season 3 guys, 2014 01:25:34,480 --> 01:25:36,480 because I love season 3, Love season 3 a lot. 2015 01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:40,280 It's it's really is when I I was, I found the show to be 2016 01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:43,640 entertaining and fun and I was excited to talk about but like, 2017 01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:48,320 yeah, man, these you know, the whole my gosh, what's the other? 2018 01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:50,480 What's the one I love? I love the I love the Vegas 2019 01:25:50,480 --> 01:25:53,080 episode a lot. I like, I like a lot of their 2020 01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:55,680 gimmicky episodes, like when they take the show elsewhere. 2021 01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,720 I actually like, I think it works more than it than most 2022 01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,400 shows. I think they're able and again, 2023 01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:03,000 you're you, you just love the friend group. 2024 01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:05,600 So it doesn't matter the venue. In fact, the venue can spice 2025 01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:09,000 things up a little bit. But my guy Bob Ryan, can we talk 2026 01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:12,280 about my guy Bob Ryan? The fucking old, old school, old 2027 01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:14,640 guard guy that has, is he writing the Ramones movie? 2028 01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:15,680 Is that what he's? Doing, yeah. 2029 01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:19,440 Yeah, Oh, I love him. Yeah, I love him when they try 2030 01:26:19,440 --> 01:26:21,480 to, when they try to stiff him out of the meeting and try to 2031 01:26:21,480 --> 01:26:24,040 ice him out of the meeting and he just shows up in the shows up 2032 01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,880 in the old car and stuff. I I absolutely loved him. 2033 01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:29,960 He he, I thought he was going to be a very annoying character. 2034 01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:32,800 But again, they're so good at like not overloading you with 2035 01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,600 people and just leaning on the friend group in here. 2036 01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:38,480 I think that I think that's the show could have been bad so many 2037 01:26:38,480 --> 01:26:40,440 times. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 2038 01:26:40,480 --> 01:26:42,080 But it just, it's, that's a different thing. 2039 01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:45,120 But just about that specifically, there's a very sad 2040 01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:49,800 thing that happens when 20th century figures don't die around 2041 01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:53,320 2005 to 2010. Like people from that era in 2042 01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:58,040 2016 or whatever are so sad and so depressed and so incapable of 2043 01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:00,920 like, getting with the times, not in the political sense, but 2044 01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:03,720 just in the way anything works, that they just become sad. 2045 01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:06,120 And people are just like, oh, you produce Dog Day Afternoon. 2046 01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:07,080 That's so cute. Yeah. 2047 01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:08,800 I love that movie. You know that that sort of 2048 01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:10,120 attitude where you're almost. You know what? 2049 01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:11,760 And guess what? I think that's impressive. 2050 01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:13,480 And guess who's excited about Bob Ryan? 2051 01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:15,960 E me so. That's funny about. 2052 01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:17,600 That like, that's why I found really funny. 2053 01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:19,680 I'm like, I love Bob Ryan. He's so fucking cool, man. 2054 01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:22,480 And he's the only guy who's like, Nah, man, yeah, I think it 2055 01:27:22,480 --> 01:27:23,360 was. Was it Dog Day afternoon? 2056 01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:25,720 Was that the movie? I I'm I'm assuming, yeah, just 2057 01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:26,800 it. Was one, it was something big, 2058 01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,960 like a massive 70s classic. I I remember it was something 2059 01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:31,360 like that. And he had all these like other 2060 01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,360 stories like me and Bob have we bare knuckle box like you got 2061 01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,240 all these like all those like stories that you're like, I 2062 01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:38,560 don't know if that's true or not, but whatever you have, you 2063 01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:43,240 have the lack of fact checking of that time and the legend of 2064 01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:44,440 the time. I I kind of like that. 2065 01:27:44,440 --> 01:27:47,080 But yeah, again, it's funny because it's obviously he's a 2066 01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:50,800 dinosaur and but it's, but it's, you know, Vinny has his passion 2067 01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:54,320 projects and Vinny becomes a little bit, he, he doesn't act 2068 01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:57,960 this way, but he becomes way more particular, I think during 2069 01:27:57,960 --> 01:27:59,440 around this night because he wants Medellin. 2070 01:27:59,440 --> 01:28:01,520 He never gives up on Medellin, though. 2071 01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:04,360 He probably should have, but he but he never gives up on 2072 01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:07,680 Medellin and he and he's really he's broke. 2073 01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,480 Yeah. So the the season starts off 2074 01:28:11,480 --> 01:28:15,160 with Aquaman, and then it does extremely fantastically well. 2075 01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:18,480 But then for some reason that sort of gets to his head and he 2076 01:28:18,480 --> 01:28:20,320 doesn't understand. It's just you're as good as your 2077 01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:21,160 last hit. That's it. 2078 01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:23,280 You don't get to ride on that forever. 2079 01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:27,400 It's not writing. You know, it's not. 2080 01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:28,600 It's not. It's not like authors. 2081 01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:29,840 Authors do this. Which. 2082 01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,280 Yeah. Well, yeah, and they shouldn't. 2083 01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:34,080 That's the thing. They also shouldn't. 2084 01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:36,520 I, I get what you mean. It's definitely worse in in 2085 01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:38,040 film, but like they also shouldn't. 2086 01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:40,960 It's like, dude, keep writing books like and like try to write 2087 01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:43,480 a hit and, and have your like have your folder. 2088 01:28:43,480 --> 01:28:45,520 I, I, I know it probably doesn't work this way because I don't 2089 01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:48,480 really do stuff like this, but you, you have your passion stuff 2090 01:28:48,480 --> 01:28:50,240 like, OK, this is my long form thing. 2091 01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:51,880 This is the baby. This is the thing I'm going to 2092 01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:53,200 come to. I'm going to take a month off 2093 01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,440 and work at certain times. But like, you have your hits. 2094 01:28:55,440 --> 01:28:58,120 And they keep telling Vinny this like, dude, do this bullshit 2095 01:28:58,120 --> 01:28:59,600 fucking movie you're going to make. 2096 01:28:59,960 --> 01:29:02,040 And Ari's right, That's The thing is like, Ari's right most 2097 01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:03,640 of the movie, right? If you're talking from a 2098 01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:06,560 practical sense, or I'm sorry, most of the show from the 2099 01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:08,160 practical sense. He's like, I'm gonna make you 2100 01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:10,080 rich if you listen to me for the most part. 2101 01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:14,160 Because the the truth is behind Entourage, OK, And this is what 2102 01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,760 a lot of people deconstruct the show as this Oh, it's a 2103 01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:21,280 postmodern commentary. But Vinny Chase is actually bad. 2104 01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:24,040 You know, he sucks. He's a movie star, not a peak 2105 01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:25,960 actor. That's that's shown in the show 2106 01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:28,720 when Matt Damon asked him to do a read for an advertisement. 2107 01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:30,640 Ahead of where I am. So maybe, maybe he. 2108 01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:32,480 Yeah, but I posted the link in the chat, Sir. 2109 01:29:32,480 --> 01:29:33,560 You might you might have watched. 2110 01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:34,160 It. Why would I? 2111 01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:36,440 Why would I? Because I sent it as a hot felt 2112 01:29:36,440 --> 01:29:39,120 gesture to my friend. That's, I know, I love that you 2113 01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:40,800 did it. I just, I'll watch it afterwards 2114 01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,560 after I watch the episode. Anyways, but you know what I'm 2115 01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:45,440 saying, like he's not supposed to be a good actor. 2116 01:29:45,440 --> 01:29:49,320 He's just like a guy that does well in in movies and and that's 2117 01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:51,760 the fundamental truth. So someone like that wanting to 2118 01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:55,320 do their passion projects is like, you know, Adrian Brody 2119 01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:58,280 doing art. It's like whatever Big Sean Penn 2120 01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:00,480 directing movies. It sucks, you know, it really 2121 01:30:00,480 --> 01:30:03,400 sucks, but that, that. 'D be one of you never going to 2122 01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:08,520 be a De Niro of exactly exactly. We know this right, because 2123 01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:10,520 that's funny. We don't really ever like for 2124 01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:12,720 the most part, we don't really see him act. 2125 01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:15,120 I mean not that that would change anything but like you 2126 01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:17,920 don't realize he always is I I by the way, I do love. 2127 01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:19,440 We forgot when they recolor queen. 2128 01:30:19,440 --> 01:30:21,800 I would have been with you. The time that E and Billy Walsh 2129 01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:25,200 see eye to eye is when they do the color grading or what the I 2130 01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:27,720 don't know what the term, sorry, but when they make Queens Blvd. 2131 01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:30,800 into like color with the you see the blue and they make his eyes 2132 01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:33,040 blue and stuff. And then E, who's been 2133 01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:36,040 frustrated with Billy Walsh to the core just goes now you're 2134 01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:38,840 fucking right, dude, Like we got to take and I love that I was 2135 01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:42,880 such a dudes rock moment because it's like it was because I guess 2136 01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,680 it would have made it good. I mean in terms of money, like 2137 01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:47,280 in terms of money, it might have worked. 2138 01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,520 I personally don't think it would have, but you get the idea 2139 01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:51,920 that that would have been a better move for it to make 2140 01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:53,240 money. But it's like, dude, this is 2141 01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:57,320 like kind of indie cinema, kind of it's going to be loved 10 2142 01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:59,040 years from now more than it is now. 2143 01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:00,320 It's like going to be one of these things. 2144 01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,200 So that's interesting. I never really thought of that 2145 01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:04,840 with Vinny Chase, where you're like, this guy is delusional, 2146 01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:06,160 but I don't. But I don't know that he 2147 01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:09,880 believes in himself to that degree though in terms of that 2148 01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:11,520 he's a De Niro, that he's a Pacino. 2149 01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:14,000 Like, I think he just, I think he kind of doesn't care that 2150 01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:16,840 much. No, he seems like somebody who's 2151 01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:20,400 more in love with the culture of being famous and being an actor 2152 01:31:20,440 --> 01:31:23,920 than somebody who actually wants to invest in learning how to 2153 01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:26,840 better that. He's just, you know, and I feel 2154 01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:30,360 like that really comes across most plainly and most 2 2155 01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:33,240 dimensionally in the first season where he's and a little 2156 01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:37,440 bit of like early season 2 where he's just kind of rotating these 2157 01:31:37,440 --> 01:31:39,720 different women around. He's playing it like MC Hammer 2158 01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:43,040 style by buying these houses he can't afford, getting cars he 2159 01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:45,560 can't afford. You know, that's really what 2160 01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:47,600 that's about. And you kind of get the idea, 2161 01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:51,840 Tad, when they're talking to his father over the phone that Kevin 2162 01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:55,200 Dillon basically went down the same path, but to a much lesser 2163 01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:58,000 degree of, OK, I'm going to get some money, I'm going to blow 2164 01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:00,560 all the money. And that's why he's auditioning 2165 01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:04,360 for CBS procedurals, you know? True. 2166 01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:05,200 That's good point. Yeah. 2167 01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:09,560 Because, I mean, everything seems to be based on something 2168 01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:12,440 that's happened or at least a rumor that somebody's heard or, 2169 01:32:12,440 --> 01:32:16,960 or, or kind of a an idea of somebody's like somebody, 2170 01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:20,440 somebody's assessment of what happened in a certain script. 2171 01:32:20,440 --> 01:32:22,320 Because you hear about all these scripts, all that scripts been 2172 01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:26,080 laying around forever. Oh, that this is oh, Medellin, 2173 01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:28,160 that's still a thing. You know, like there's all these 2174 01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:30,120 like little Hollywood inside things. 2175 01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:32,080 So you get the idea that most of this stuff has happened, but I 2176 01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:33,480 didn't even think about it with Kevin Dillon. 2177 01:32:33,480 --> 01:32:36,880 That's totally true because he was he wasn't Viking quite. 2178 01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:38,800 I don't think that's that's not what he he's doing something 2179 01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:41,520 different. But you're saying Vinny could 2180 01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:43,240 kind of be doing a little Kevin Dillon? 2181 01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:46,320 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, the the Johnny drama 2182 01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:50,000 squandering potential, or at least like financial potential 2183 01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:52,960 and having to mooch off of your brother as a result of that, you 2184 01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:56,080 know? So should you do, should you do 2185 01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:58,080 the bullshit? I'm asking either you guys 2186 01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,520 personally like should you, if you, if you guys, I know you 2187 01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:02,920 guys right now it's it, you guys are very much in control of what 2188 01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:06,200 you do. And, and, but I know I, I have a 2189 01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:09,760 feeling both of you guys want to like, hey, here's here's a 2190 01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:11,920 script I'm sending to you. You know, here's a script. 2191 01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:12,920 I say this so and so's got scripts. 2192 01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:14,000 Yeah, so and so's got a script for you. 2193 01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:15,920 And you can see one that's like, OK, this is bullshit. 2194 01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:18,760 It might be entertaining bullshit, but like you should do 2195 01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:21,320 it right? Like would you got to make if 2196 01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:24,520 you if you think it's a hit? You want to start with that one. 2197 01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:26,760 Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I think first of all, I 2198 01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:29,080 really like the hyping up. I really appreciate it. 2199 01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:32,840 But it's not like I'm getting my hyping up because my peel box is 2200 01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:34,960 not filled with top writers. You're not famous. 2201 01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:37,120 Yeah, it's all hypothetical. I know that's true. 2202 01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:39,120 I don't know but. What I'm saying is like that's 2203 01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:42,080 that's not even something that really happens that much 2204 01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:43,400 anymore. I think it's just such a 2205 01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:44,720 different landscape. I feel like it. 2206 01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:47,080 Doesn't work then on a mainstream level like what I 2207 01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:50,000 mean is if you guys were you guys put out a couple features 2208 01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:53,080 right that I'm that I could see at AMC 14 or whatever over here 2209 01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:55,800 by and I was like, I could see these things right And then your 2210 01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:58,320 next move. How do the scripts get up get to 2211 01:33:58,320 --> 01:33:59,880 you? I I actually don't know this. 2212 01:33:59,880 --> 01:34:03,240 But if you if you look at people, let's say one generation 2213 01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:05,960 older that are slowly starting to make it into a more 2214 01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:09,480 mainstream room, we think about Eugene Kotyrenko, we think about 2215 01:34:09,480 --> 01:34:13,920 Sean Baker at a huge scale. You see these people who they 2216 01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,240 never got that push. It's not like someone's doing 2217 01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:18,680 them a favor whatsoever. It's you make a movie and then 2218 01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:20,560 you make them more and then everything you do, you do 2219 01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:22,760 yourself. But every time you just take a 2220 01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:25,560 step one step further and eventually we don't know what 2221 01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:27,720 the future holds, but eventually they were able to make their way 2222 01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:29,760 up that way. It wasn't like someone saw red 2223 01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:32,160 rock and it was like, you know what, let's give him a budget. 2224 01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:35,160 Like it was still the same sort of struggle every time. 2225 01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:37,480 And of course, the scale that he's working at is massive 2226 01:34:37,480 --> 01:34:39,560 compared to like me. I can't speak for Jay, but like, 2227 01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:42,480 for me, like I, I spend a fraction of that money at the 2228 01:34:42,480 --> 01:34:45,080 same time. It's like the the attitudes, the 2229 01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:47,000 same, the attitudes like I'm not going to wait for anything. 2230 01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:49,520 I'm just going to make them, you know, and there there is a way 2231 01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:51,040 to live. It's not just about being poor 2232 01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:54,480 and making like, incomprehensible movies for the 2233 01:34:54,480 --> 01:34:56,320 rest of your life. You really are trying to make 2234 01:34:56,480 --> 01:34:59,040 something better every time, but there's nothing you're waiting 2235 01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:00,360 for. It's just like whatever success 2236 01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:02,960 comes with it, whenever you can get from it, is is is just that. 2237 01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:03,840 You're. Saying you don't have the 2238 01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:06,600 opportunity to do the bullshit. Well, that's the thing. 2239 01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:09,920 Yeah, it's I, I can say I'm, I'm very, you know, like, Oh no, I 2240 01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:12,120 would never do that. But like no ones going to come 2241 01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:14,760 to me with an an Adidas ad. You know that's not how we. 2242 01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:16,760 Establish you do Doctor Strange 3. 2243 01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:20,280 This is a guarantee I. Had such a fantasy when I 2244 01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:23,200 watched season 4 of Entourage. I I've talked to you guys in the 2245 01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:24,880 chat. I would love to have been like, 2246 01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:28,160 hey, man, I got fucking, you know, how much is a movie cost? 2247 01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:31,640 I got $250 million and I want this done. 2248 01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:33,360 And I give it, I give it to DC, right? 2249 01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:34,640 That's what I would do. I would give it to DC and 2250 01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:35,760 everyone's like, why are you picking that guy? 2251 01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,000 I'm like, no, I I fucking believe in this kid, dude. 2252 01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:41,120 I fucking believe in this kid. And I'm like just, I'm just some 2253 01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:44,240 like guy who just got lucky, you know, with his dumb podcast and 2254 01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:46,880 it got huge or something like I I just get, but I want to dump 2255 01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:49,040 my I want to save movies. That's why that's why I'm 2256 01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:51,480 picturing this. I'm creating a guy and I I give 2257 01:35:51,480 --> 01:35:54,280 DCA bunch of money. I was going to say. 2258 01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:57,760 I I hope I get like a fraction at least of what you're planning 2259 01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:58,880 for DC. I don't think you're going to 2260 01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:00,040 like the second-half of this story. 2261 01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:01,400 This is why I'm accepting you of it. 2262 01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:06,000 So and then I just hound him to death about it, you know, and 2263 01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:07,720 I'm just like, it's got to be this way. 2264 01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:09,560 But I'm like kind of nice guy about it. 2265 01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:10,600 And I'll be like, let's see what you got. 2266 01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:12,080 Let's see what you're see what you're working on. 2267 01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:14,040 Just a cut. Let me see that first cut. 2268 01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:16,320 No, dude. And then you get the classic 2269 01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:18,560 Billy Walsh driving away on the motorcycle with the fucking 2270 01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:21,480 thing around his neck and and he's like, he's skating away 2271 01:36:21,480 --> 01:36:22,880 from me and running away from me. 2272 01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:24,800 I would love that. I say it's a fun fan. 2273 01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:25,920 That's why I wouldn't do it to you. 2274 01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:27,160 Low risk. I don't think would be very 2275 01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:29,240 funny if I did that to you. It would be way funny if I did 2276 01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:32,840 into DC because he would be like you can't watch the first cut of 2277 01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:39,040 Doctor Strange 3. But yeah, it's such an old 2278 01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:41,520 system like this doesn't happen. I do. 2279 01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:43,120 Rich people even like movies anymore. 2280 01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:45,200 Is that real? I, I, I actually don't know. 2281 01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:47,800 I'm asking all these genuinely. I have no idea how movies were 2282 01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:50,360 and I'm not even yeah. Yeah, I'm not like contradicting 2283 01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:51,480 or whatever. I just feel like, you know, in 2284 01:36:51,480 --> 01:36:53,240 the 70s you're like an oil magnet. 2285 01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:55,000 Yeah. And, and, and it's like, yeah, 2286 01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:57,080 let's let's do some pictures, you know, let's watch the the 2287 01:36:57,080 --> 01:36:59,600 movies. But now it does not seem like 2288 01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:01,520 that's the case. Probably would do much better as 2289 01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:04,720 an artist, you know, as like a installation piece type guy 2290 01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:07,800 where it's like, Oh yes, we have this, this, this, this, you 2291 01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:11,240 know, young talent from the, the, the streets of Ethiopia 2292 01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:13,840 and, and, and that's, that's where the money is now more than 2293 01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:15,360 movies. I feel like movies are just like 2294 01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:18,080 a different thing, man. No one, no one cares about them 2295 01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:20,920 as they used to. At the same time, there's a very 2296 01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:23,520 big resurgence of people treating films seriously where 2297 01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:26,920 it's like young people being like, you know, so, so it's, 2298 01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:29,400 it's, it's different. I, I, I, I don't know, I can't 2299 01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:30,480 speak to it, but I don't really care. 2300 01:37:30,480 --> 01:37:32,400 That's that's the main point. Not that I'm like trying to 2301 01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:35,680 brush their brushes away, but regardless of what the audience 2302 01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:39,040 is like, I'm doing this is that's sort of the way it is. 2303 01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:42,400 You just pointed out something kind of interesting that I feel 2304 01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:44,120 like. OK, I've already brought up the 2305 01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:47,400 idea of an Entourage resurgence a couple of times. 2306 01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:50,640 I do feel like if they brought this show back now, it would be 2307 01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:54,160 tailored to a different audience because of that exact reason is 2308 01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:55,760 we were talking about the nerd culture before. 2309 01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:58,720 Well, nerd culture has been replaced by film culture, so 2310 01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:02,400 it's the letterbox. Hey, you know, I buy. 2311 01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:05,560 I wear the Criterion T-shirts. You know, I actually love 2312 01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:08,360 vinegar syndrome most. Though if any in the Criterion 2313 01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:10,280 Closet would be an episode. Absolutely. 2314 01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:11,320 Yeah, it. Would. 2315 01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:14,320 The idea of it's good, but I bet it would suck. 2316 01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:18,280 You would get like the Paul Schrader jokes and in references 2317 01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:20,120 and Safdie Brothers style editor. 2318 01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:23,840 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it would be like the version 2319 01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:28,160 of the studio, but kind of real. I get like the New York version 2320 01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:32,200 of that, which is something I would, I would, I would watch 2321 01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:36,400 it, but I wouldn't like it as much, you know, as you know, and 2322 01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:39,760 the system that's existing during Entourage is very like, 2323 01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:42,600 if you make your independent film, you make your like, I'll 2324 01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:45,640 say Brothers McMullen is one from the 90s, right? 2325 01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:49,400 That got that director. That was the Ed Burns. 2326 01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:54,360 Ed Burns gets into the system because 20th Century Fox, their 2327 01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:57,560 indie film division, puts his movie out, and then suddenly 2328 01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:00,040 they're like, all right, well, this kid has potential. 2329 01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:03,880 He'll work for cheap. Let's give him all the scripts 2330 01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:05,440 we've purchased over the last year. 2331 01:39:05,440 --> 01:39:07,440 Take your pick. We have this actor who's 2332 01:39:07,440 --> 01:39:09,160 interested in this one, this one over here. 2333 01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:11,280 Da, da, da, da, da. You know, there's all these 2334 01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:15,440 internal politics that do exist, but it's just it's receded so 2335 01:39:15,440 --> 01:39:19,480 much more and it's not as readily available to people who 2336 01:39:19,480 --> 01:39:21,960 are on the outside. Like Sean Baker is probably 2337 01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:26,320 being offered Warner Brothers movies or something now, you 2338 01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:28,920 know. So I, I think the big thing here 2339 01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:32,360 is if you do get that opportunity to take on a 2340 01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:37,240 blockbuster, if you're operating on my level or D CS level or 2341 01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:40,440 anybody who's working with like, frankly, just like less than 2342 01:39:40,440 --> 01:39:44,800 $100,000 on, on your project, I think you have to take it. 2343 01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:49,440 I mean, obviously not painting broad strokes here. 2344 01:39:49,440 --> 01:39:51,280 There could be stipulations to that. 2345 01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:53,720 If someone's going to be a big pain in the ass, it might not be 2346 01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:55,120 worth it. Might make you want to quit 2347 01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:57,520 filmmaking. Like me chasing him down of 2348 01:39:58,640 --> 01:40:00,080 Doctor Strange Three. Yeah, absolutely. 2349 01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:02,960 But if you can, if you can deal with that and you can get 2350 01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:06,080 through it, you know, you can come out better for it if you 2351 01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:08,840 keep your ethos intact. But a lot of these guys do not. 2352 01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:12,800 And they go, wow, I really love living in a big house in this 2353 01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:15,440 gated off area. And I want to do like three more 2354 01:40:15,440 --> 01:40:18,160 of these and maybe I'll then I'll get back to my, my actual 2355 01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:19,400 filming. And then they never do. 2356 01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:21,880 So you, you see all these directors from like the early 2357 01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:25,800 10s of filmmaker 20 tens of filmmaking who made like one 2358 01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:28,400 really interesting or one really stylized feature. 2359 01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:31,880 They got sucked up into Disney and Warner Brothers. 2360 01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:34,680 They do commercial films. And now it's just nothing but 2361 01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:38,000 that. So I, I, I personally believe 2362 01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:42,360 that you got you the, the most important thing to avoid as 2363 01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:45,560 somebody who makes things is stagnation and getting caught in 2364 01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:48,360 the same loop, the same spiral. You're doing the same thing over 2365 01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:50,080 and over and not yielding any new results. 2366 01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:53,280 You have to shake up your environment every so often, just 2367 01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:55,960 in some way or another. And something like that does a 2368 01:40:55,960 --> 01:41:00,240 terrific job of doing that. So I would probably be in for 2369 01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:02,120 Crazy Rich Asians too. Nice. 2370 01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:07,120 But nothing but that. I have a good idea for Entourage 2371 01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:09,440 reboot just one as a one off, like kind of the one off 2372 01:41:09,440 --> 01:41:11,720 episode. It wouldn't sincerely could not 2373 01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:14,360 make a show about this. But Johnny Drama's back, right? 2374 01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:15,360 He's getting older. Obviously. 2375 01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:17,560 I don't know how old Kevin Dillon is now, but I I guess 2376 01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:19,440 he's close to 60 years old right right now. 2377 01:41:19,480 --> 01:41:23,520 I would guess so. He gets a job with Ryan Coogler, 2378 01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:26,080 A new Ryan Coogler movie man. I had to. 2379 01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:27,920 Sorry, sorry. I had to bring up Ryan Cooler 2380 01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:29,080 somehow. I'm very happy you did. 2381 01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:33,160 Let's so so yeah, I know. Trust me, I I saw it too. 2382 01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:35,640 The I saw sinners, but. You weren't a fan. 2383 01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:37,600 I fucking hated that. One. 2384 01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:39,120 Yeah, me too. But anyways. 2385 01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:43,720 Anyways, but let's say he does another like racism period piece 2386 01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:46,520 or something, Brian Cougar, but he casts Johnny Drama and Johnny 2387 01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:49,240 Drama's like an old racist guy at this point in the movie. 2388 01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:52,360 But he's looking for work. And then what Johnny Drama does 2389 01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:55,320 is his whole thing is he's a polished actor and he's been 2390 01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:57,040 there before. His stories are the same as 2391 01:41:57,040 --> 01:41:59,040 Vinny Chase's stories. It's all the same. 2392 01:41:59,440 --> 01:42:01,200 He does all these false equivalencies. 2393 01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:06,320 So he goes into so a good episode would be him putting the 2394 01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:10,080 N word into the script like saying it like he's like, well, 2395 01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:11,280 that's what my character would do. 2396 01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:13,760 And that would be a good episode of Entourage in the current day. 2397 01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:16,080 Because you, when I watched Sinners, I'm like, damn, these 2398 01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:19,280 guys are not racist enough. Yeah, he could be a racist cop 2399 01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:22,960 in Fruitvale Station 2. Fruitvale Station 2. 2400 01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:25,480 Yeah, Yeah. I don't think there was. 2401 01:42:25,480 --> 01:42:27,840 Something that happened in 2020 that Ryan Coogler could make a 2402 01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:29,600 film about. I'm not going to say what, but 2403 01:42:29,680 --> 01:42:31,560 you know. Fauci dude, no. 2404 01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:35,320 That's Clint Eastwood. That would be Clint. 2405 01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:38,360 Eastwood. 'S final movie will be Fauci the 2406 01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:40,960 movie Denzel Washington. Is Fauci. 2407 01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:42,400 Yeah, dude, that's gonna be so sad. 2408 01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:45,680 I I actually I want to see this is nothing to do with I I got 2409 01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:48,280 confused by your example and I'm sort of lost here, but I I want 2410 01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:49,240 to. What are you lost on? 2411 01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:50,360 I'll be happy to explain it to you. 2412 01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:54,440 I've thought about this a lot. So Ryan Coogler Bugler is making 2413 01:42:54,440 --> 01:42:57,680 a new movie, and he's going to. Cast in Entourage. 2414 01:42:57,880 --> 01:42:59,320 In in Entourage. Sure, sure, sure. 2415 01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:01,080 And he's going to cast Johnny Drama. 2416 01:43:01,440 --> 01:43:04,840 As as like a racist bar owner or something that's like a period 2417 01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:05,480 piece or. Something. 2418 01:43:05,480 --> 01:43:07,160 It's a. Short thing, so drama like 2419 01:43:07,160 --> 01:43:09,440 probably doesn't even have a line or anything, but he's like, 2420 01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:12,520 he's like I'm so into character. He like calls Michael B Jordan 2421 01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:14,960 the N word or something. Oh, he doesn't as. 2422 01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:17,280 He's like, this is what my character would do and it goes 2423 01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:19,320 like viral for him being like racist or something. 2424 01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:20,880 I think it'd be really funny if he's like totally in his 2425 01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:23,440 character, even though he's like, not that type of guy. 2426 01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:26,560 Like I think it would be a fun. It would be a fun experiment or 2427 01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:28,440 something. I don't know. 2428 01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:30,600 I don't think you can base a season off of that, but it would 2429 01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:32,120 be a fun one off Entourage. Reboot. 2430 01:43:32,440 --> 01:43:34,880 What is this like a deconstruction of what it means 2431 01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:38,360 to be an? Actor, you know what this is? 2432 01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:41,280 This feels like a plot point that doesn't come up like that 2433 01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:42,720 does come up on the show, but we never see. 2434 01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:45,400 It's just like we're picking up an Entourage now and Johnny 2435 01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:48,040 Drama has been cancelled and This is why. 2436 01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:50,640 Yes, yeah, yeah. Like a even a flashback in a 2437 01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:53,840 situation or something. Like Vox Lux Vox Lux has ruined 2438 01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:56,400 this man's brand. You want he wants to do this 2439 01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:57,600 again. It's the same thing. 2440 01:43:57,720 --> 01:44:00,080 Natalie Portman did some weird stuff I just bought. 2441 01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:04,280 Tickets to the in person Q&A with Brady Corbay today for Vox 2442 01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:05,560 Lux So. That's six let. 2443 01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:07,560 Me sneak in. Let me sneak in with you. 2444 01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:09,000 I got some questions. Yeah. 2445 01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:09,520 Oh. Glenn. 2446 01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:11,360 Glenn, actually. How'd you gain so much weight, 2447 01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:12,920 Brady? That's going to be my question. 2448 01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:16,240 I mean, my thing is, you should be if you're getting fat, you 2449 01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:19,200 should be making better movies. Yeah, fair enough. 2450 01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:21,800 Wait a second. Didn't. 2451 01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:24,080 OK, this is crazy. This might be completely false. 2452 01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:27,840 Wasn't the next movie that Brady Corbett was doing supposed to be 2453 01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:32,040 like a black Asian Western? Is it? 2454 01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:34,280 Is it? Isn't that exactly? 2455 01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:37,920 The Rush Hour 4. Hapa goes West or Shanghai? 2456 01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:39,840 Shanghai Hapa Knights or something? 2457 01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:41,920 Fantastic bits fellas, but that's real. 2458 01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:44,720 I'm pretty sure that he's doing a black western Chinese. 2459 01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:46,120 Western. Is this a bit? 2460 01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:47,480 I've no, no, no. No, no. 2461 01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:50,000 You guys like I follow what Brady Corbett next movie is? 2462 01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:52,800 The Sinners prequel. Yeah, dude, haters are secretly 2463 01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:54,320 fans. That's what I learned. 2464 01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:56,480 The biggest? So you're a fan of Brady 2465 01:44:56,480 --> 01:44:59,600 Corbett? You love him, all right. 2466 01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:00,480 Got it. No. 2467 01:45:00,480 --> 01:45:02,120 But Brady? Corbett next movie guys. 2468 01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:04,760 This is important because if he that would be a good thing for 2469 01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:06,960 Entourage. The new season, Brady Corbett is 2470 01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:10,560 making sinners and at the same time Ryan Cooler is making 2471 01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:13,040 sinners. And you have the Dueling 2472 01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:15,320 Studios. Bob Ryan wrote the script in 2473 01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:17,800 1977, and it's just been sitting around. 2474 01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:19,840 Yeah. And so who do you give the 2475 01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:21,720 release to? It's like a fail safe and Doctor 2476 01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:24,640 Strangelove situation where both the movies are based on the same 2477 01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:27,000 book but you don't know which one to release. 2478 01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:29,480 Of course you got The Prestige. You would you would go with 2479 01:45:29,480 --> 01:45:32,000 Coogler. He's got the prestige, but then 2480 01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:35,080 got Corbett. Corbett hires Vinnie Chase 2481 01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:38,800 Coogler hires Johnny Drama. And they haven't spoken, They 2482 01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:40,960 haven't spoken for a while, 'cause they both been so busy, 2483 01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:44,560 yeah. I think we're writing everyone. 2484 01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:45,920 Everyone proves my. Idea. 2485 01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:48,400 But look at what it gives fucking all this inspiration for 2486 01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:50,440 No, no, no. But oh, great bit Glenn. 2487 01:45:50,440 --> 01:45:52,280 That was so fucking funny. Yeah, guess what? 2488 01:45:52,280 --> 01:45:54,120 Guess who comes up with an episode of Entourage? 2489 01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:55,440 Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. 2490 01:45:55,440 --> 01:45:56,360 It was. First of all, I'm Eric. 2491 01:45:56,360 --> 01:45:57,720 Murphy. I'm fucking Eric Murphy. 2492 01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:00,520 Thankless job. Go home to Sloane, have a couple 2493 01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:01,840 of hours. Yeah. 2494 01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:03,800 What's your best E impression? You know, go. 2495 01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:07,160 Fuck yourself, dude. This real voice now is insane. 2496 01:46:07,280 --> 01:46:10,240 Like I, I, yeah, yeah. He'll be like Adrian, you know, 2497 01:46:10,480 --> 01:46:13,560 I mean, we was on set and and I was like, Adrian, we'll come out 2498 01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:15,720 of his trailer. By the way, I love the trailer 2499 01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:17,720 scene, by the way, where Johnny Drama's jacking off in the 2500 01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:19,880 fucking trailer with Ed. The Ed Burns movie is a is a 2501 01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:21,600 classic, by the way, I forgot to bring that up. 2502 01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:23,640 But anyways, yeah, I Eric, I can't do an Eric Murphy 2503 01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:25,560 impression. I and all these guys are tough 2504 01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:28,280 to do impressions of. They're kind of tough. 2505 01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:31,200 They're not as cartoonish as you think when you try to do it like 2506 01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:33,960 they don't stand out. It's more of a facial expression 2507 01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:37,160 thing, which I I also can't do. But the Kevin Dillon you'd have 2508 01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:40,120 to do like the facial expression, you know, and all 2509 01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:42,360 and all that, but. Maybe it's because I can't do 2510 01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:46,120 them, but impressions suck. Usually like 95% of the time is 2511 01:46:46,120 --> 01:46:48,080 like, yeah, I mean the shittiest thing you can do. 2512 01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:50,680 I think you have to have it in your mind that you're not 2513 01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:53,440 perfect at like that. Like I think the people that 2514 01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:56,360 pretend that they do like, like you see the YouTube thumbnails 2515 01:46:56,360 --> 01:47:00,240 like vocal instructor nails Mississippi accent and like, and 2516 01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:03,160 she's like I said, window instead of window or you know, 2517 01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:05,440 it's like that's like those are huge on YouTube. 2518 01:47:05,440 --> 01:47:07,760 And but when people just like it's still there, it's like when 2519 01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:10,840 you South Park style it where it's like you can tell it's Trey 2520 01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:11,840 Park. You can tell it's it's Matt 2521 01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:13,640 Stone, but they're just doing a voice. 2522 01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:15,800 I think those are better I. Don't know. 2523 01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:17,280 Yeah. I mean, if you look at SNL, the 2524 01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:21,120 key to a successful impression on that show is just making a 2525 01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:25,680 cartoonish, not really anything like the real person version of 2526 01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:27,640 that. Yeah, yeah, well, it's like and 2527 01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:30,960 and then the my favorite cop out and I've I've said it before on 2528 01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:33,000 the show, but it is a cop out because you think about all the 2529 01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:35,120 times this is just not true is where they say, well, to 2530 01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:36,760 impersonate somebody you have to like them. 2531 01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:39,000 I'm like, dude, you used to impression of my boss. 2532 01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:41,080 Dude, I fucking hate that guy and I nail it. 2533 01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:44,320 It's fucking so good. It's. 2534 01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:46,720 Basically bullying, right? If you're doing an impression of 2535 01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:48,840 someone, it's like. It's not respect, you're just 2536 01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:49,920 like. Yeah. 2537 01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:53,120 Yeah, I think I, I think when you do it like long form, like 2538 01:47:53,160 --> 01:47:55,360 like, you know, 'cause you the, the 2 ones you think about is 2539 01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:57,320 Alec Baldwin versus Shane Gillis, Trump, right? 2540 01:47:57,320 --> 01:47:59,600 Those are the 2 ones where like Shane Gillis is a little more 2541 01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:01,920 apologetically. I don't think he's a Trump guy, 2542 01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:05,560 but I think he's like, not as not not like Alec Baldwin, 2543 01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:07,080 right? Like I I don't where Alec 2544 01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:11,000 Baldwin's sucks in my opinion, like of Donald Trump, like I 2545 01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:12,280 don't think it's very good at all. 2546 01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:14,960 Like I've never understood. I I was sent so many clips by 2547 01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:17,360 family members of epic Alec Baldwin impressions. 2548 01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:18,040 I thought they were. Terrible. 2549 01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:21,560 You know the guy they have on now on SNL used to do like a 2550 01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:24,360 terrific Trump impression when it was audio only now that they 2551 01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:26,920 have him performing and he's got to wear that like turtle face 2552 01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:30,360 that looks nothing like Trump. He he blows now at. 2553 01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:32,120 Trump, and you probably just shouldn't. 2554 01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:35,760 Like, impersonating Trump nowadays is just like kind of 2555 01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:38,520 tough to like, find something new that's really exciting about 2556 01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:39,640 that. And, you know, like, it's just, 2557 01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:42,880 I feel like that day passed in terms of that. 2558 01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:46,360 But Season 4, Season 4, will we wrap up guys? 2559 01:48:46,440 --> 01:48:49,680 Season 4? Yeah, What is season 3? 2560 01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:51,240 Any thoughts? You love it. 2561 01:48:51,560 --> 01:48:53,080 I would love it. It's funny though, because it's 2562 01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:54,720 like, it's funny because it's just like, it's just like 2563 01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:56,760 background noise to me a lot of times. 2564 01:48:56,760 --> 01:49:00,160 And I realized how like I watched them and then I'm seeing 2565 01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:01,720 these episode tiles. I'm like, what is that? 2566 01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:04,240 But I watched it. Sorry Ari. 2567 01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:07,120 Vince goes shopping for a new agent with the gang. 2568 01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:09,960 Ari tries to stop Vince from getting that new agent. 2569 01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:12,280 I don't remember this. One, I like the I like the five 2570 01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:15,160 towns billboard, but that was pretty good Where where where 2571 01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:16,800 the five that where he's constantly sitting in the 2572 01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:18,800 background and seeing if people are looking at the Billboard. 2573 01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:22,240 I I like I like the idea of like a actor who's actually way more 2574 01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:25,280 popular than Johnny Drama like that was doing that and that's 2575 01:49:25,280 --> 01:49:27,240 in the show. You know, who's like actually 2576 01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:29,760 like Kevin Bacon or something, You know, like somebody who's 2577 01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:32,840 like a little bit more of a household name doing that and 2578 01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:35,120 then they're putting that in as a Johnny drama. 2579 01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:37,160 But I thought that was pretty good. 2580 01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:40,240 Nick Rubenstein. That's the We didn't bring up 2581 01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:42,200 Nick. I do like Nick Rubenstein a lot. 2582 01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:44,200 That's Adam Goldberg's character, right? 2583 01:49:45,240 --> 01:49:49,600 Yeah, and the, the Yom Kippur episode's pretty damn good too, 2584 01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:52,760 where they're trying to broker a deal on Yom Kippur, but they 2585 01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:56,320 the, the more, the, the more higher up they need to go is 2586 01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:58,240 like the more Orthodox the Jewish man. 2587 01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:01,880 So he's like, absolutely not talking today. 2588 01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:04,200 Like that was that was pretty good. 2589 01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:06,680 I don't know anything about Yom Kippur, but I get the idea. 2590 01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:08,800 You can't use a phone. So that's that's the only thing 2591 01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:12,720 I know. As far as season 4, I got to say 2592 01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:16,400 they really made Adrian Greener look like the lounge singer. 2593 01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:19,200 That would be Andy Kaufman's double. 2594 01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:21,360 What was his name? Do you guys know what I'm 2595 01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:23,160 talking about? How do you explain Pablo 2596 01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:24,160 Escobar? Yeah. 2597 01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:28,800 OK, I went to the fat suit or not that stupid, but yeah, yeah, 2598 01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:30,640 yeah. That's, that's funny. 2599 01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:33,040 Sofia Vergara is pretty funny because it is funny to see a guy 2600 01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:35,840 like Billy Walsh squander all his integrity over pussy. 2601 01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:38,280 That was pretty cool. That he does and embarrass as 2602 01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:40,280 well, which is so funny. That's a good one. 2603 01:50:40,360 --> 01:50:42,200 Yeah, the. Same principle, yeah. 2604 01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:43,840 That's true. Yeah. 2605 01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:46,440 Yeah, that's true. He does because that's E right. 2606 01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:49,560 He kind of. No, what I mean is like, he's 2607 01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:52,360 really Walsh also was like, I've seen all the scary movies. 2608 01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:56,400 Yeah, I'm a cinephile. I've seen everything 20 times or 2609 01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:57,240 whatever. He says that. 2610 01:50:57,240 --> 01:50:58,240 That's pretty good. Yeah. 2611 01:50:58,240 --> 01:51:00,720 And the, the, yeah, the Anna Faris. 2612 01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:04,560 Well, I like the the part where Anna Faris is on set and her 2613 01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:05,840 like boyfriend. I don't know if he's like the 2614 01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:09,040 director, like ADP or something. I couldn't, I couldn't remember 2615 01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:11,560 what it was. But I like when he's date when 2616 01:51:11,560 --> 01:51:15,080 he dates a New Girl, all all her boyfriends looked like versions 2617 01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:18,920 of him like cuz Seth Green was the Sloan's ex-boyfriend and 2618 01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:21,080 they're all just these like short red headed guys. 2619 01:51:21,880 --> 01:51:23,960 I like that. I like that idea cuz I and they 2620 01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:26,280 get intimidated cuz they he looks like them too. 2621 01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:28,280 Which I that's AI thought that was pretty funny. 2622 01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:30,280 Seth. How much money does Seth Green 2623 01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:32,040 have by the way? He has a shit ton of money, huh? 2624 01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:35,440 Well, of course, if you if you listen to Isaac Cappy, he's got 2625 01:51:35,440 --> 01:51:39,160 a basement full of child slaves, so enough money to afford that 2626 01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:43,120 and. Who is who is Seth Green? 2627 01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:45,720 I mean that not even ironically. I know him from the show but I 2628 01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:47,240 have no idea what he does outside of. 2629 01:51:47,240 --> 01:51:49,320 Entrepreneur. Family Guy, Adult Swim. 2630 01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:51,200 He had that Robot Chicken. Yeah. 2631 01:51:51,200 --> 01:51:53,800 Austin Powers. He's probably best known for 2632 01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:56,880 producing a bunch of animated series now, but back in the day, 2633 01:51:56,880 --> 01:51:59,160 it was Austin Powers, it was Buffy. 2634 01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:01,560 He was in it, the original TV movie. 2635 01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:03,880 That's right. Yeah, He played Richie in that. 2636 01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:05,080 So that's right. That's funny. 2637 01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:08,240 He's got a lot he's got. He's a very eclectic guy. 2638 01:52:08,360 --> 01:52:09,640 Yeah, but I just mean all that adult. 2639 01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:11,880 I wonder how much that Adult Swim money, like actually 2640 01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:14,000 accumulates into. I'm sure it's a shit ton. 2641 01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:16,520 Yeah, yeah. I don't know because I know 2642 01:52:16,520 --> 01:52:19,760 Robot Chicken was huge like. Man, that's a show I've never 2643 01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:22,240 seen, but all the kids in school loved it. 2644 01:52:22,480 --> 01:52:25,160 Yeah, it was huge. I, I, I'm Adult Swim. 2645 01:52:25,160 --> 01:52:27,720 I don't, I didn't really watch a lot of Adult Swim, but I didn't 2646 01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:30,120 watch a lot of TV period. I, I didn't see Entourage around 2647 01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:32,920 that time. I was just like not watching TV. 2648 01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:38,720 So that it was yeah, I like I like the the premiere or I guess 2649 01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:40,840 the first episode of season 4 when they do it like you said, 2650 01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:42,520 Tropic Thunder style. I think low res is. 2651 01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:46,280 What you Yeah, it is so Tropic Thunder before Tropic Thunder. 2652 01:52:46,280 --> 01:52:47,880 Is that was that before Tropic Thunder? 2653 01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:49,720 I believe so. Tropic Thunder is 2008. 2654 01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:54,240 Yeah, so you get that. And it's a documentary Hearts of 2655 01:52:54,240 --> 01:52:57,360 Darkness style vibe to it, where Billy Walsh is holding this 2656 01:52:57,360 --> 01:53:00,080 witch hunt to find out who's fucking Sofia Vergara. 2657 01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:03,240 He thinks it's that one fat Colombian guy. 2658 01:53:04,040 --> 01:53:04,880 I love that. Part. 2659 01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:10,480 He's like a gaffer, yeah. Oh, God, Billy's great, man. 2660 01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:12,520 Yeah, that's that. That one's good. 2661 01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:16,920 And yeah, what was it? And then Johnny Dramas got his 2662 01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:19,040 Five Towns hat on. He's like, I can't contractually 2663 01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:20,880 can't be in this movie. That's why I wasn't offered a 2664 01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:24,160 part because I'm in. I have a hit series on NBC, the 2665 01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:26,120 The 55 Towns. Yeah. 2666 01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:28,600 I always want to call it Four Brothers, but that's a actual 2667 01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:32,600 Mark Wahlberg movie. But yeah, that was that was 2668 01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:34,040 good. Any other thoughts on Season 4 2669 01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:35,640 guys? I mean dude, Cam come on. 2670 01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:38,280 No can do within the Cam kids. Those are the. 2671 01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:40,400 Two Well, you're the I you're the one that has to tell me 2672 01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:42,280 about Cam Mr. I've just went there. 2673 01:53:42,480 --> 01:53:44,600 No, I've never been to Cam DC spill. 2674 01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:47,800 Not just have I been, I was there in an official manner. 2675 01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:49,320 Don't just I'm not a tourist, OK? 2676 01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:49,960 I was. I was. 2677 01:53:50,360 --> 01:53:53,480 There you are you suffering from imposter syndrome right now 2678 01:53:53,480 --> 01:53:56,360 Because nobody said you were. Actually, I'm very important 2679 01:53:56,360 --> 01:53:57,440 there. Yeah, Everybody near me. 2680 01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:00,240 I saw Emily Ratajowski there that that was an Entourage 2681 01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:02,000 reference. Oh, I thought you did. 2682 01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:03,720 I was like. Oh no, I, I, I did see her. 2683 01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:06,000 I did see her, but I just, I know where her from entourage as 2684 01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:07,520 well. All these people, lots of these 2685 01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:08,800 celebrities, I don't know from outside. 2686 01:54:08,800 --> 01:54:11,480 I'm not like. I know her from naked pictures 2687 01:54:11,480 --> 01:54:14,000 on Twitter. Robin Thicke. 2688 01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:17,640 You know Robin Thicke. Classic Robin Thicke. 2689 01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:20,040 It's been a while since he's been famous, right? 2690 01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:21,600 Yeah, she was. She was in he. 2691 01:54:21,880 --> 01:54:23,280 Was he? Was not allowed to be famous. 2692 01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:25,520 Yeah, he was not allowed to be famous after a certain point, 2693 01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:27,320 right? Gone too soon man, you know. 2694 01:54:27,760 --> 01:54:30,200 There was like a sex counselor at my school. 2695 01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:32,520 Did you ever have those? Was it Robin Thicke? 2696 01:54:33,880 --> 01:54:36,520 No Robin Thicke related, but did did you guys have that like sex 2697 01:54:36,520 --> 01:54:37,200 counseling? It's. 2698 01:54:37,200 --> 01:54:42,040 Not no, not really. I mean, we had like, what was it 2699 01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:45,760 was called family life instead of they they took sex education 2700 01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:47,280 out because I think liberal California. 2701 01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:49,760 But around that time they they called it family life, but it 2702 01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:53,640 was still like sex, you know, I'm still talking about the same 2703 01:54:53,640 --> 01:54:55,200 old thing. But yeah, we didn't have a sex 2704 01:54:55,200 --> 01:54:56,680 counselor. I don't know what that what it? 2705 01:54:56,760 --> 01:54:58,280 What is that? I don't know what they're 2706 01:54:58,280 --> 01:54:59,600 called. Yeah, it was, it was in French. 2707 01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:01,120 So I'm doing rough. Does he coach? 2708 01:55:01,120 --> 01:55:04,320 Does he coach? It was tough about like how to 2709 01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:06,200 put a condom on a banana and stuff like that. 2710 01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:08,560 Was this just some guy that invited you in a little portable 2711 01:55:08,560 --> 01:55:09,160 by yourself? Yeah. 2712 01:55:10,040 --> 01:55:11,720 I got a private. Course and everything it was 2713 01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:13,840 fun. I'm still you're you were the 2714 01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:16,480 best one at the talk earlier, so we just wanted the. 2715 01:55:17,120 --> 01:55:19,160 That's a great movie, by the way, Mysterious Skin is really 2716 01:55:19,160 --> 01:55:19,880 terrific. I've. 2717 01:55:19,960 --> 01:55:21,240 Never seen it. I've never seen it. 2718 01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:25,040 That's Mama Mia. But anyways, about that the only 2719 01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:27,200 thing, the only reason why I bring this up is that basically 2720 01:55:27,320 --> 01:55:29,960 she turned this into like it's supposed to be sex cows, 2721 01:55:30,280 --> 01:55:33,960 whatever sex education and she turned it into a, a, a covert 2722 01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:37,840 political sort of jihad. And and basically she was just 2723 01:55:37,840 --> 01:55:42,160 like the most vile, sexist thing I've ever seen in my entire 2724 01:55:42,160 --> 01:55:44,560 life. Is that song by Robin Thicke 2725 01:55:45,440 --> 01:55:47,320 Blurred Lines? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2726 01:55:47,640 --> 01:55:50,320 Because it blurs the line of consent and it's such a 2727 01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:52,680 disgusting song, but I won't get too far into it. 2728 01:55:52,720 --> 01:55:55,160 And then she stopped herself. So that's that's what I remember 2729 01:55:55,160 --> 01:55:56,560 of. Of yeah, Blurred Lines was like 2730 01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:59,760 the original TDs for that era, you know? 2731 01:55:59,760 --> 01:56:01,800 Right. I forgot all of that because and 2732 01:56:01,800 --> 01:56:04,200 then like there was like a woke thing about it where he was 2733 01:56:04,200 --> 01:56:06,520 stealing Marvin Gaye's song. So it was like the whole white 2734 01:56:06,520 --> 01:56:07,840 guy stealing a black guy's because it's a. 2735 01:56:07,840 --> 01:56:09,680 Hard seeing his dad. His dad was doing that. 2736 01:56:09,680 --> 01:56:11,480 His own pain. Growing pains the goat, dude. 2737 01:56:11,840 --> 01:56:12,480 Yeah. Heck yeah. 2738 01:56:12,520 --> 01:56:13,920 You kidding me? He was Canadian, right? 2739 01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:16,600 Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah. I forgot about that. 2740 01:56:16,600 --> 01:56:17,400 Yeah. RIP. 2741 01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:19,240 He loved Alan Thicke, man. Yeah, it was. 2742 01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:20,920 Yeah, it was that that. But yeah, that was. 2743 01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:22,760 Who was on Growing Pains? DiCaprio. 2744 01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:25,960 DiCaprio was part of the pussy Posse with Kevin Connolly, Eve 2745 01:56:25,960 --> 01:56:26,880 from Entourage. Look at. 2746 01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:29,040 It's all. Yeah, that is funny that that 2747 01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:32,120 Kevin Connolly was like they they talk about him like because 2748 01:56:32,120 --> 01:56:34,880 he's with like Wahlberg and DiCaprio and stuff and it it's 2749 01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:37,960 like, was he the guy going the most ham, you think? 2750 01:56:37,960 --> 01:56:39,520 Because, like, he was not the biggest star. 2751 01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:41,920 I don't think so. I mean, have you guys seen Don's 2752 01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:43,840 Plum? No, there. 2753 01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:46,800 Don's Plum is horrible. It's a horrible movie, but 2754 01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:49,640 there's a very interesting documentary the New York Post 2755 01:56:49,640 --> 01:56:52,320 released on the making of it and how Tobey Maguire's like 2756 01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:56,640 Rageaholic, who got these guys blacklisted and turned DiCaprio 2757 01:56:56,640 --> 01:56:58,760 on them. It feels very Entourage, I would 2758 01:56:58,760 --> 01:57:02,920 say, you know, it's almost mandatory viewing for this type 2759 01:57:02,920 --> 01:57:05,880 of thing to get like the greater context of what else is going on 2760 01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:07,720 here. Yeah, yeah. 2761 01:57:07,800 --> 01:57:08,920 Interesting. But can't. 2762 01:57:08,920 --> 01:57:10,600 I'm sorry, can't. Yeah, I can't. 2763 01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:15,840 You went to can. So obviously Entourage Medellin, 2764 01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:19,080 they're trying to sell Medellin before anybody's seen it, But 2765 01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:20,360 then they're like, no, let's screen it. 2766 01:57:20,360 --> 01:57:22,240 They can't. They keep basically, they keep 2767 01:57:22,600 --> 01:57:24,840 not knowing when to when to hold them right? 2768 01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:28,120 Like they, they, they really it's it ends up being a bad 2769 01:57:28,120 --> 01:57:30,440 movie because that isn't the joke. 2770 01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:31,320 I don't know anything about can't. 2771 01:57:31,320 --> 01:57:33,280 Isn't the joke that everything gets a standing ovation? 2772 01:57:33,880 --> 01:57:34,720 Yes. So that's. 2773 01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:36,720 That's and they don't get, they don't get that at all in 2774 01:57:36,720 --> 01:57:38,720 Entourage. You can usually it's like by 2775 01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:42,000 Cannes is very funny in the way that this is very childish 2776 01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:43,880 behavior. Like it's the most prestigious 2777 01:57:44,560 --> 01:57:47,280 festival in the world, but you'll have films like Only God 2778 01:57:47,280 --> 01:57:49,080 Forgives where people just walk out. 2779 01:57:49,160 --> 01:57:51,200 Half the room walks out. The rest are standing 2780 01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:54,320 ovationing, you know, ovating, standing, but the rest of like 2781 01:57:54,320 --> 01:57:56,640 half the room leaves. And these are critics and top 2782 01:57:56,640 --> 01:57:58,320 industry people. So it's very interesting how 2783 01:57:58,320 --> 01:58:01,240 they they're babies, basically the goo Gaga babies. 2784 01:58:01,240 --> 01:58:03,640 And even when I was there, people were were laughing, 2785 01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:05,960 looking at weird spots for the premiere of the movie. 2786 01:58:05,960 --> 01:58:09,640 I was there for there. There's like a guy just texting 2787 01:58:09,640 --> 01:58:13,040 in the theater at Cannes at the world premiere of this movie 2788 01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:15,760 that by by the way, I don't know what it's like to be a Cam for a 2789 01:58:15,760 --> 01:58:18,120 bad movie because the one that I was there for won the Palm. 2790 01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:19,240 But it's all right. Don't let you know. 2791 01:58:19,240 --> 01:58:22,240 We'll we'll talk about it later. But even for that, for that 2792 01:58:22,240 --> 01:58:26,640 exact thing, just to show you how much of A childish baby game 2793 01:58:26,640 --> 01:58:28,760 it is. Like it's just yeah, obviously a 2794 01:58:28,760 --> 01:58:31,000 ton of cool people, the best in the world, etcetera, etcetera. 2795 01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:34,880 And I really respect it. But you'll have just the oddest 2796 01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:37,160 contrast there. You know, like the huge theater, 2797 01:58:37,160 --> 01:58:39,920 everybody's dressed up, all the millions of billions of EUR, and 2798 01:58:39,920 --> 01:58:42,400 then you got a guy texting at the world premiere. 2799 01:58:42,400 --> 01:58:45,200 It's it's nuts. Well, famously, Roger Ebert 2800 01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:48,680 started singing I'm singing in the rain during the Brown Bunny, 2801 01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:51,440 right? So even a man of that caliber. 2802 01:58:51,880 --> 01:58:52,800 Really. Yeah. 2803 01:58:53,120 --> 01:58:54,240 Who's something in the water? Yeah. 2804 01:58:54,680 --> 01:58:57,280 During which part? Good question. 2805 01:58:57,280 --> 01:58:59,760 You know, I was getting Billy Walsh Vincent Gallo vibes when 2806 01:58:59,760 --> 01:59:01,840 he was trying to do the gay blowjob. 2807 01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:05,160 From he did remind that he did remind me of Vincent Gallo a lot 2808 01:59:05,160 --> 01:59:07,000 actually. Yeah, yeah, that was that was 2809 01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:09,800 definitely I could see him being like, I could see him MAGA 2810 01:59:09,800 --> 01:59:12,720 posting hard like Billy Walsh now, you know, like as like a 2811 01:59:12,720 --> 01:59:14,880 transgressive. Yes, this is all part of the new 2812 01:59:14,880 --> 01:59:16,960 entourage. By the way, Billy Walsh, he's 2813 01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:18,760 back. He is MAGA. 2814 01:59:19,920 --> 01:59:24,000 Defends Kevin Dillon who made a mistake saying the N word on 2815 01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:27,320 sinners, the sinners that might not get released. 2816 01:59:28,200 --> 01:59:30,840 Not the Corbett one. Yeah, yes, and so but then. 2817 01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:33,320 But Billy Walsh hears about it and is reflexively defending it, 2818 01:59:33,360 --> 01:59:35,520 therefore leaking parts of the Yeah. 2819 01:59:35,760 --> 01:59:39,120 Yeah, Billy Walsh is very like dime Square Peter Thiel funded. 2820 01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:41,600 He hangs out with like 24 year old girls. 2821 01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:45,400 Kevin Gillen is part of like the old guard conservative in his. 2822 01:59:45,760 --> 01:59:48,120 New movie? Yeah, I love it. 2823 01:59:48,200 --> 01:59:49,320 I love it. Absolutely. 2824 01:59:49,360 --> 01:59:51,480 I you know what? I could actually see that being 2825 01:59:51,480 --> 01:59:53,960 a storyline on a new Entourage because like you said, there 2826 01:59:53,960 --> 01:59:56,800 would the lines would be blurred a little bit, like there would 2827 01:59:56,800 --> 01:59:59,720 be a little bit of this Criterion closet and letter. 2828 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:04,080 Oh my gosh, My son Ari Golds son didn't put Vinny's new movie on 2829 02:00:04,080 --> 02:00:05,280 his letterbox. Top ten this. 2830 02:00:05,320 --> 02:00:06,680 Year like just bullshit like that. 2831 02:00:06,680 --> 02:00:08,240 What do we have? I mean, that is kind of funny 2832 02:00:08,240 --> 02:00:10,960 actually, but. I suck, but I disagree, man, 2833 02:00:10,960 --> 02:00:12,720 because like, it's, it's not going to happen because you 2834 02:00:12,720 --> 02:00:14,960 don't have young writers, You don't have a lot of young. 2835 02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:16,160 I don't. Think it's going to happen 2836 02:00:16,200 --> 02:00:18,920 regardless but. It's going to happen in some way 2837 02:00:18,920 --> 02:00:20,880 or the other because these guys can't stop themselves. 2838 02:00:20,880 --> 02:00:23,280 They got to they got to chew that the the bones of the 2839 02:00:23,280 --> 02:00:25,880 entourage, whatever the spoils of the entourage that's left 2840 02:00:25,880 --> 02:00:27,840 away. It can it might be a podcast 2841 02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:31,240 where they read the scripts. You know, that might be our our 2842 02:00:31,480 --> 02:00:34,200 fucking entourage comeback. But it is going to happen. 2843 02:00:34,320 --> 02:00:36,040 And what's going to happen is that they're going to try to do 2844 02:00:36,040 --> 02:00:40,640 the exact same things, maybe add like 2012 put like sort of 2845 02:00:40,640 --> 02:00:44,760 commentaries on, but not in a racial way or but not in the gay 2846 02:00:44,760 --> 02:00:46,120 way. Like that's sort of like. 2847 02:00:46,600 --> 02:00:50,520 And just like that, that is what that show is exactly is you 2848 02:00:50,520 --> 02:00:54,800 can't you have these hiccups still in 2025 where they are 2849 02:00:54,800 --> 02:00:58,440 doing that Because whoever's running HBO right now, their 2850 02:00:58,440 --> 02:01:00,800 priorities are in the wrong place when it comes to making 2851 02:01:00,800 --> 02:01:03,000 original programming. You wouldn't get an Oz. 2852 02:01:03,000 --> 02:01:05,840 You wouldn't get any of these taxi cab confessions. 2853 02:01:07,280 --> 02:01:09,680 You know, it's just sad state of affairs. 2854 02:01:10,080 --> 02:01:12,760 What's currently on HBO? I think White Lotus is the one I 2855 02:01:12,760 --> 02:01:14,480 know about White Lotus White. Lotus. 2856 02:01:14,600 --> 02:01:17,480 Hacks, which I have a guilty pleasure for hacks. 2857 02:01:18,840 --> 02:01:20,200 I think that's Max. That's Max. 2858 02:01:20,200 --> 02:01:23,720 Only it's not even on like the cable channel, like HBO I guess, 2859 02:01:23,720 --> 02:01:26,920 which that's a newer thing. There's all the way. 2860 02:01:27,720 --> 02:01:29,280 Yeah, I don't know what their big show. 2861 02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:32,800 Oh, the Pedro Pascal Bella Ramsey show that fucking is 2862 02:01:32,800 --> 02:01:34,200 like. Oh well, it's just the Bella 2863 02:01:34,200 --> 02:01:36,360 Ramsey show now. Yeah, that's true. 2864 02:01:36,360 --> 02:01:39,000 Oh, I'll spoiler alert, I didn't know that, but I I'm not going 2865 02:01:39,000 --> 02:01:40,920 to watch it. But yeah, I guess Pedro Pascal's 2866 02:01:40,920 --> 02:01:42,760 not it's the one movie he's not in anymore. 2867 02:01:43,040 --> 02:01:45,520 Is is that thing? So yeah, there's there's, 2868 02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:48,320 there's, there's. Jay does not like him. 2869 02:01:48,320 --> 02:01:51,160 He's very past lives coded, I think. 2870 02:01:52,520 --> 02:01:55,320 Pedro, yeah. Yeah, well, yeah, he's in 2871 02:01:55,320 --> 02:01:59,320 material, you know, So it's, I mean, literally, yeah. 2872 02:01:59,600 --> 02:02:02,760 I mean, it's just a matter of he takes every single job. 2873 02:02:02,760 --> 02:02:04,600 The oversaturation is completely real. 2874 02:02:04,840 --> 02:02:08,520 He doesn't ever offer like variety in his performance. 2875 02:02:08,760 --> 02:02:10,360 He's not especially good looking. 2876 02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:13,800 It's just why I mean I I don't understand why he gets every 2877 02:02:13,800 --> 02:02:17,000 single role. Yeah, I mean, I, I don't know. 2878 02:02:17,000 --> 02:02:20,240 I think I, I, I still, I don't think I've ever seen him other 2879 02:02:20,240 --> 02:02:22,600 than Game of Thrones when he gets his eyes poked out, which I 2880 02:02:22,600 --> 02:02:24,800 didn't know that. I didn't know that was him. 2881 02:02:25,360 --> 02:02:26,520 I I didn't even know who that was. 2882 02:02:26,520 --> 02:02:28,320 People. I learned that now that that was 2883 02:02:28,320 --> 02:02:30,640 him and. Unfortunately, we know that 2884 02:02:30,640 --> 02:02:32,960 Pedro Pascal would be on new Entourage. 2885 02:02:32,960 --> 02:02:35,040 He would be one of the first people they would give for a 2886 02:02:35,040 --> 02:02:37,400 celebrity cameo. Is he on Ari? 2887 02:02:37,400 --> 02:02:40,360 Ari would like botch a dinner where he would like not want to 2888 02:02:40,360 --> 02:02:43,640 protect the dolls or something. And and and Ari would say 2889 02:02:43,640 --> 02:02:46,600 something would slip up and then Pedro Pascal drops him as a 2890 02:02:46,600 --> 02:02:48,000 client or something. I could see that. 2891 02:02:48,120 --> 02:02:49,480 Yeah. I I. 2892 02:02:49,480 --> 02:02:51,920 There's there's just so much on this guy, Pedro Pascal. 2893 02:02:52,120 --> 02:02:56,640 I I don't know where you you, did you like him anywhere there? 2894 02:02:56,640 --> 02:03:00,800 Was he good in something? I I've never. 2895 02:03:00,800 --> 02:03:03,160 Had anybody? I mean, really, I think The 2896 02:03:03,160 --> 02:03:05,360 Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent is probably the one I 2897 02:03:05,360 --> 02:03:06,680 enjoy, but everybody hated that movie. 2898 02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:08,520 People did not like that one. That's. 2899 02:03:08,840 --> 02:03:10,800 The meta movie with David Gordon Green. 2900 02:03:11,240 --> 02:03:13,960 Yeah. Well, I got. 2901 02:03:14,120 --> 02:03:15,320 I might check that out. But yeah, and. 2902 02:03:15,760 --> 02:03:17,160 I'm not just dropping a movie name here. 2903 02:03:17,160 --> 02:03:17,760 Really. Like what? 2904 02:03:17,760 --> 02:03:20,920 What was he so good in that he became the wunderkind? 2905 02:03:20,920 --> 02:03:23,760 I think it's the The Last of Us. They love him and and what's the 2906 02:03:23,760 --> 02:03:25,760 the Star Wars stuff? Disney Plus Star Wars. 2907 02:03:25,760 --> 02:03:27,080 That's why everyone really loves him, man. 2908 02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:29,120 The the what? Mandalorian. 2909 02:03:29,280 --> 02:03:30,880 Mandalorian. Yeah, yeah, Mandalorian. 2910 02:03:30,880 --> 02:03:32,800 I feel like Mandalorian was the turning point. 2911 02:03:32,800 --> 02:03:34,600 That's what everybody. I think that's what like made 2912 02:03:34,600 --> 02:03:36,840 him, because now he's in the new Fantastic Four where they're 2913 02:03:36,840 --> 02:03:38,720 trying to make it look like a 60s thing. 2914 02:03:39,240 --> 02:03:44,840 So my, my theory here is Pedro Pascal came in right at the time 2915 02:03:45,040 --> 02:03:47,320 when they were like, we're done casting white dudes. 2916 02:03:47,320 --> 02:03:49,440 We're we're, we're very tired of white dudes. 2917 02:03:49,440 --> 02:03:52,560 We don't, we don't like masculinity, but Pedro Pascal 2918 02:03:52,560 --> 02:03:54,880 gives like enough of the masculinity, even though, you 2919 02:03:54,920 --> 02:03:56,720 know, like, you observe this guy for more than a second. 2920 02:03:56,720 --> 02:04:00,200 It's like, that ain't it? And he's not white technically, 2921 02:04:00,200 --> 02:04:02,320 even though he's like clearly European jeans. 2922 02:04:02,960 --> 02:04:05,600 And so he's the guy. He's been shoehorned as the guy. 2923 02:04:05,600 --> 02:04:09,240 We're going to have this guy. And I think that was why he was 2924 02:04:09,240 --> 02:04:11,480 a go to. And he managed to become part of 2925 02:04:11,480 --> 02:04:14,240 so many successful projects in the process, like The 2926 02:04:14,240 --> 02:04:17,640 Mandalorian and Last of Us. Yeah. 2927 02:04:17,640 --> 02:04:21,840 Last of Us, Game of Thrones, you know, there's enough. 2928 02:04:22,000 --> 02:04:24,200 There's enough hits there. I mean, there's a lot of shit 2929 02:04:24,200 --> 02:04:25,600 too. Like he was in Judd Apatow's The 2930 02:04:25,600 --> 02:04:26,560 Bubble. That's one of the most 2931 02:04:26,560 --> 02:04:28,840 unwatchable movies to ever be made. 2932 02:04:29,160 --> 02:04:31,720 Drive away dolls. I thought it was a fun movie. 2933 02:04:31,720 --> 02:04:33,840 Gladiator 2 not a good movie though. 2934 02:04:33,840 --> 02:04:36,040 Didn't didn't see it. I'm scared still as to watching 2935 02:04:36,040 --> 02:04:37,440 that movie. Yeah, no thanks. 2936 02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:41,440 I think that's it. Yeah, I will say about the can 2937 02:04:41,440 --> 02:04:43,960 part of entourage. I they how they get there is 2938 02:04:43,960 --> 02:04:46,960 awesome because a young Kanye. Yeah, back when Kanye West used 2939 02:04:46,960 --> 02:04:50,640 to wear pink polo shirts, like that is a completely different 2940 02:04:50,640 --> 02:04:52,040 time. That was like, this is like 2941 02:04:52,040 --> 02:04:55,080 College Dropout era, maybe late Registration era. 2942 02:04:56,160 --> 02:04:58,440 Sydney Pollack you didn't you forget because that that was 2943 02:04:58,440 --> 02:05:01,440 supposed to be the first ride. Sydney Pollack There was a 2944 02:05:01,440 --> 02:05:05,280 weight issue, FAA, whatever thing was happening that where 2945 02:05:05,280 --> 02:05:08,720 you couldn't get they, they it was a turtle or what some of the 2946 02:05:08,720 --> 02:05:10,280 turtle was probably going to be the odd man out. 2947 02:05:10,720 --> 02:05:12,920 Yeah. Or something, they couldn't fit 2948 02:05:12,920 --> 02:05:14,240 them all on there to get them to camp. 2949 02:05:14,240 --> 02:05:17,360 But then Kanye says fuck it like we're we're going to ball out 2950 02:05:17,360 --> 02:05:19,280 and roll. Because he's flying a 747 or 2951 02:05:19,280 --> 02:05:21,600 something crazy. Yeah, I mean, that was when he 2952 02:05:21,600 --> 02:05:23,560 was becoming a say how how skinny he looked too. 2953 02:05:23,560 --> 02:05:26,160 Man, it was crazy. Like I just forget what he used 2954 02:05:26,160 --> 02:05:29,680 to look like because he I don't know what he he, he just looks 2955 02:05:29,880 --> 02:05:31,720 insane now. And I'm not even trying to hate 2956 02:05:31,720 --> 02:05:33,360 on him or anything. I just, you look at him, you're 2957 02:05:33,360 --> 02:05:37,200 like the his jowls and stuff, Like he's, he's going to become 2958 02:05:37,200 --> 02:05:38,600 like an Orson Welles over some point. 2959 02:05:38,600 --> 02:05:41,960 Like a black Orson Welles kind of like, just swollen great 2960 02:05:41,960 --> 02:05:45,320 fuck. Man, Wells, we're back. 2961 02:05:45,320 --> 02:05:46,360 Ladies and gentlemen, we're back. 2962 02:05:46,680 --> 02:05:48,840 Yeah. So much word play this episode. 2963 02:05:49,200 --> 02:05:51,800 Oh wow, it's RC dude. It's what it's what happens. 2964 02:05:51,920 --> 02:05:54,120 DDC was like, I'm not going to do any word play because. 2965 02:05:54,120 --> 02:05:56,280 That's what Glenn. Likes, yeah, that's what Glenn 2966 02:05:56,280 --> 02:05:57,600 likes. I would never do that. 2967 02:05:57,760 --> 02:06:02,680 I I like, I like, I like the words. 2968 02:06:03,840 --> 02:06:08,160 OK, but anyway. What was that Napoleon Dynamite 2969 02:06:08,160 --> 02:06:09,840 ass moment that just happened to your? 2970 02:06:10,000 --> 02:06:11,480 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. 2971 02:06:11,480 --> 02:06:13,240 Great movie. Fuck, my gosh. 2972 02:06:13,360 --> 02:06:15,480 I haven't seen it. Yeah, well, you were one when it 2973 02:06:15,480 --> 02:06:18,360 came. To picture I I might, yeah. 2974 02:06:18,360 --> 02:06:20,400 I think it came out in 2004 or something. 2975 02:06:20,600 --> 02:06:24,080 So yeah, that's. Anyways, probably probably not 2976 02:06:24,080 --> 02:06:25,680 worth revisiting. It was just a. 2977 02:06:26,200 --> 02:06:28,840 You know what's funny though? When that movie came out, it 2978 02:06:28,840 --> 02:06:31,920 came out and it was released in my opinion like very small 2979 02:06:31,920 --> 02:06:35,440 release and it it was one of the 1st movies that like the DVD 2980 02:06:35,800 --> 02:06:39,400 release of it was made it massive because I saw it it came 2981 02:06:39,400 --> 02:06:42,720 out right before school started. So I saw it with my buddy and 2982 02:06:43,120 --> 02:06:44,440 nobody was in the theater or anything. 2983 02:06:44,440 --> 02:06:46,280 And we were talking about how funny this fucking movie was. 2984 02:06:46,280 --> 02:06:50,960 We're like 1314 or whatever. And then and everyone at school 2985 02:06:50,960 --> 02:06:52,760 is like, that looks gay. I don't would never watch that 2986 02:06:52,760 --> 02:06:54,160 movie. It looks really stupid. 2987 02:06:54,520 --> 02:06:56,720 Then it comes out on DVD and they're like, have you seen this 2988 02:06:56,720 --> 02:06:58,480 movie? I'm like, you fucking bitch, 2989 02:06:58,480 --> 02:07:01,680 dude, I just told you how good that movie was the whole time. 2990 02:07:01,680 --> 02:07:05,760 So that I always, I always thought that was that was and I, 2991 02:07:05,760 --> 02:07:09,120 my aunt lived in Idaho and she would visit the house that they 2992 02:07:09,200 --> 02:07:12,040 the the Napoleon Dynamite house. You could just like go into it 2993 02:07:12,040 --> 02:07:14,080 has like that kind of lore. It was nuts, man. 2994 02:07:15,960 --> 02:07:18,320 Good times. I, you know, were they? 2995 02:07:18,320 --> 02:07:21,160 I don't know, but that was it was definitely a time. 2996 02:07:21,240 --> 02:07:24,000 It was definitely a time. So then what's the? 2997 02:07:24,000 --> 02:07:26,040 Point of this episode, are we are we coming to a big 2998 02:07:26,040 --> 02:07:28,520 conclusion or? What's the what's the point of 2999 02:07:28,520 --> 02:07:30,960 the episode? Yeah, I feel like, I feel like 3000 02:07:31,440 --> 02:07:33,680 we like Entourage. Is that a final review or 3001 02:07:33,680 --> 02:07:35,280 something like? You're the one that has the most 3002 02:07:35,280 --> 02:07:36,760 criticisms. Of it, hold on a second. 3003 02:07:36,760 --> 02:07:39,480 This is this is only Part 1. It's like getting to the middle 3004 02:07:39,480 --> 02:07:42,160 of the Brutalist and not. You're the one, Johnny Drama 3005 02:07:42,160 --> 02:07:45,040 sucks, actually. Actually, I don't want to 3006 02:07:45,040 --> 02:07:46,920 deconstruct this, but let me deconstruct it. 3007 02:07:46,920 --> 02:07:48,800 Vinny Chase is actually evil. And I'm like. 3008 02:07:48,800 --> 02:07:51,560 This well, Vinny Chase sucks is an actor I think in the in the 3009 02:07:51,600 --> 02:07:55,000 the realm of the show, and these people are pretty pretty vapid 3010 02:07:55,000 --> 02:07:56,800 and and bad. No, they're. 3011 02:07:56,800 --> 02:07:59,520 Not they're cool. I don't know if I'd say any of 3012 02:07:59,520 --> 02:08:01,680 them. Everybody they bring in outside 3013 02:08:01,680 --> 02:08:03,600 of the circle is worse than them, yeah. 3014 02:08:03,640 --> 02:08:05,080 Yeah, yeah, but I mean, you're in hell. 3015 02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:06,480 No, you're not. Who? 3016 02:08:06,520 --> 02:08:09,480 Who's the worst of them, DC? The worst of the guys. 3017 02:08:09,600 --> 02:08:11,440 Yeah, definitely just that power. 3018 02:08:11,440 --> 02:08:12,720 Rank. You got a power rink? 3019 02:08:12,720 --> 02:08:16,040 Your entourage cast. Oh, man, a turtle's the worst 3020 02:08:16,040 --> 02:08:17,240 for sure because he's got no juice. 3021 02:08:17,240 --> 02:08:20,280 He's got no, no, really, He's a disgusting guy. 3022 02:08:20,280 --> 02:08:22,400 He's disgusting me. He's got no creativity. 3023 02:08:22,800 --> 02:08:25,480 Johnny Drama. Johnny Drama sort of is evil. 3024 02:08:25,480 --> 02:08:27,360 I don't I don't like him. I don't like his face. 3025 02:08:27,360 --> 02:08:30,800 I don't like his speech. Vinny Chase is is just bad, pure 3026 02:08:30,800 --> 02:08:33,840 bad. Chaotic New Neutral, just normal 3027 02:08:33,840 --> 02:08:35,680 guy, Neutral evil, whatever it is. 3028 02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:40,440 Then after that, there's E. He's pretty evil that we have. 3029 02:08:40,440 --> 02:08:41,160 Who else? Who else? 3030 02:08:41,320 --> 02:08:44,080 Here, you seem like you're a big believer in the idea of 3031 02:08:44,400 --> 02:08:48,200 passivity being evil. Yeah, yeah, 100 per turtle 3032 02:08:48,200 --> 02:08:51,720 first. 100 percent, 100% because at least people are chasing 3033 02:08:51,720 --> 02:08:54,560 something, you know, if you, if you go and of course I 3034 02:08:54,560 --> 02:08:57,160 understand the Daoist point of view, you know this sort of 3035 02:08:57,160 --> 02:08:58,360 like, let it happen. Don't. 3036 02:08:58,360 --> 02:09:00,360 Don't try to push your way into. Try. 3037 02:09:00,360 --> 02:09:01,920 To earn, don't try to earn points on this show. 3038 02:09:01,920 --> 02:09:05,040 I bringing up Taoism. I, you know, I got the TTC on my 3039 02:09:05,200 --> 02:09:06,600 desk right here. What the hell are you talking 3040 02:09:06,600 --> 02:09:07,560 about? What? 3041 02:09:07,560 --> 02:09:08,120 What? What? 3042 02:09:08,120 --> 02:09:13,320 Stupid world is it where? Where Sigh has a control on the 3043 02:09:13,320 --> 02:09:14,480 world? Religions. 3044 02:09:14,880 --> 02:09:16,880 What what? What kind of evil world is it? 3045 02:09:16,880 --> 02:09:18,840 Where Sigh he. Would tell you that there is no 3046 02:09:18,840 --> 02:09:21,520 control of it, so you would you. You've assigned him that, 3047 02:09:21,520 --> 02:09:23,240 Therefore you're not. Therefore you're, Therefore 3048 02:09:23,240 --> 02:09:24,920 you're not the Dao. You're not the Dao of. 3049 02:09:25,040 --> 02:09:26,640 Course I'm not the DAO, yeah. Duh. 3050 02:09:27,000 --> 02:09:28,680 Who says I'm the DAO? Did I say I'm the DAO? 3051 02:09:28,680 --> 02:09:31,000 Well. You said you were like consuming 3052 02:09:31,000 --> 02:09:32,520 it and getting really excited about it and. 3053 02:09:32,520 --> 02:09:34,280 Brought up reading a book just like anything. 3054 02:09:34,280 --> 02:09:35,840 Just like you're not reading a book. 3055 02:09:35,840 --> 02:09:37,560 You didn't even get past Journey through the end of the night, 3056 02:09:37,560 --> 02:09:40,280 the first fucking page. No, it's, man, I can't handle 3057 02:09:40,280 --> 02:09:41,840 that stuff, man. You're probably like always 3058 02:09:41,840 --> 02:09:45,360 really good because the guy didn't resist, you know? 3059 02:09:45,840 --> 02:09:47,320 But, but I I don't think it's too good. 3060 02:09:48,200 --> 02:09:50,200 Yeah. The temptation of becoming a 3061 02:09:50,200 --> 02:09:51,720 doctor. He's a doctor, you know, like 3062 02:09:52,040 --> 02:09:53,480 what did. You look up, what did you look 3063 02:09:53,480 --> 02:09:56,080 up that that about journey through the end of the night? 3064 02:09:56,520 --> 02:09:58,840 Oh, no, no, all the all the controversy I don't really care 3065 02:09:58,840 --> 02:09:59,840 about. That's not my no. 3066 02:09:59,840 --> 02:10:01,880 No, I mean, what do you think happened in that book? 3067 02:10:02,640 --> 02:10:04,840 I don't know. I I really, I read the first 2 3068 02:10:04,840 --> 02:10:06,600 pages. They're having a cafe. 3069 02:10:06,800 --> 02:10:09,640 Yeah, yeah, everybody says so. But The thing is now, whatever I 3070 02:10:09,640 --> 02:10:10,760 read doesn't mean I agree with it. 3071 02:10:10,760 --> 02:10:13,800 You know what I'm saying? Like the TTC, the TTC is just 3072 02:10:13,800 --> 02:10:15,880 the Amazon book I bought, just like anything else. 3073 02:10:16,080 --> 02:10:18,280 That's like king is what you're talking about. 3074 02:10:18,280 --> 02:10:19,960 That's 50 pages long, by the way. 3075 02:10:19,960 --> 02:10:23,560 Yeah, OK, got it. That's perfect length. 3076 02:10:23,600 --> 02:10:27,400 That's that's and TV stands a form that where there's like 3 3077 02:10:27,400 --> 02:10:30,680 lines of page. So you completely disagree with 3078 02:10:30,680 --> 02:10:32,360 it, which you can't by the way, you're actually not allowed. 3079 02:10:32,520 --> 02:10:34,200 Like, I don't think you can disagree. 3080 02:10:34,200 --> 02:10:36,280 With it, I think say I disagree necessarily. 3081 02:10:36,280 --> 02:10:40,560 I'm just, I'm, I'm agnostic about the TTC, but the the 3082 02:10:40,560 --> 02:10:43,240 point, the point being like in terms of Entourage, I don't see 3083 02:10:43,240 --> 02:10:45,400 how all, all these characters are not evil. 3084 02:10:45,400 --> 02:10:47,480 They're just bad. They're just bad guys. 3085 02:10:47,520 --> 02:10:49,680 No dude this is don't do the anti. 3086 02:10:49,680 --> 02:10:52,080 Thing I'm not doing the anti. I love the show, but tell me, 3087 02:10:52,080 --> 02:10:54,120 tell me about it. Tell me why they're bad guys. 3088 02:10:54,680 --> 02:10:56,320 They're not. Why? 3089 02:10:57,040 --> 02:10:58,920 Why are they bad? They don't do anything bad. 3090 02:10:59,200 --> 02:11:02,120 They're just they're not doing anything good either, and 3091 02:11:02,120 --> 02:11:07,840 they're just chasing wealth, OK? They're chasing all the worst 3092 02:11:07,840 --> 02:11:10,360 things that. Yeah. 3093 02:11:10,840 --> 02:11:12,960 They're they're chasing wealth, yeah. 3094 02:11:14,280 --> 02:11:16,480 That's why they're bad. What are you talking about? 3095 02:11:16,760 --> 02:11:18,280 No, no, I thought. There was more to that. 3096 02:11:18,280 --> 02:11:20,120 I was ready for more. To no, they're chasing wealth. 3097 02:11:20,120 --> 02:11:22,680 They're chasing, you know, they're, they're living in lust. 3098 02:11:22,800 --> 02:11:24,760 You know these people, these people are. 3099 02:11:24,840 --> 02:11:27,840 Doing 7 deadly sins of. On I'm not doing 7 Deadly Sins. 3100 02:11:27,840 --> 02:11:30,800 I don't I don't like anime. All I'm all I'm saying is these 3101 02:11:30,800 --> 02:11:32,720 guys are not good people. They're good. 3102 02:11:33,120 --> 02:11:34,400 What have they done for the world? 3103 02:11:34,440 --> 02:11:38,120 You know they make bad movies. You don't know that Aquaman was 3104 02:11:38,120 --> 02:11:39,760 bad. First off, it was. 3105 02:11:39,760 --> 02:11:41,520 You don't know that Queens Blvd. was bad. 3106 02:11:41,600 --> 02:11:43,600 No, that's actually someone I I want to see that one. 3107 02:11:43,680 --> 02:11:44,560 I want to see that one. If I. 3108 02:11:44,560 --> 02:11:45,440 Could you don't? You don't. 3109 02:11:45,480 --> 02:11:47,720 Know, but seriously, let's let's I'm not trying to do this weirdo 3110 02:11:47,720 --> 02:11:48,320 thing. Like what? 3111 02:11:48,360 --> 02:11:50,240 They're bad guys. They're not bad. 3112 02:11:50,680 --> 02:11:52,880 Why? They're they don't again, 3113 02:11:52,880 --> 02:11:56,080 they're they're if anything, they're they're nothing, if 3114 02:11:56,080 --> 02:11:57,920 anything, which is bad. No, it's not. 3115 02:11:58,200 --> 02:12:00,800 Nothing is bad. If your entourage was something, 3116 02:12:00,800 --> 02:12:02,400 they're usually destructive, by the way. 3117 02:12:02,560 --> 02:12:04,720 If that's what they are in this in this series. 3118 02:12:04,800 --> 02:12:06,000 They're not. How were they not? 3119 02:12:06,160 --> 02:12:10,720 They enable the absolute worst. You know the the worst behavior 3120 02:12:10,720 --> 02:12:12,640 is possible. But they but they don't. 3121 02:12:12,640 --> 02:12:14,360 Vinny's going to do all this stuff anyways. 3122 02:12:15,080 --> 02:12:19,000 Well that's just like give, give give your mom a hit of heroin 3123 02:12:19,000 --> 02:12:20,880 then. You know my mom's not going to 3124 02:12:20,880 --> 02:12:24,800 do heroin if I don't though. That's right, but if you do help 3125 02:12:24,800 --> 02:12:25,880 her, then you're helping her out. 3126 02:12:26,320 --> 02:12:28,920 In that way, then he is going to do then he's going to chase 3127 02:12:28,920 --> 02:12:30,960 pussy. He's going to he's going to be 3128 02:12:30,960 --> 02:12:32,760 really, he's not going to read his scripts. 3129 02:12:32,920 --> 02:12:35,320 He's he's going to do all of the things that he's already doing. 3130 02:12:35,320 --> 02:12:37,640 If those guys aren't there, he's just going to be a lot lonelier 3131 02:12:37,760 --> 02:12:40,480 and perhaps a bit more annoying and probably more outward with 3132 02:12:40,480 --> 02:12:43,160 his annoyingness rather than keeping it within the confines 3133 02:12:43,160 --> 02:12:44,040 of the house. If these. 3134 02:12:44,040 --> 02:12:48,000 Guys join Ms. 13 Then they're probably going to do their stuff 3135 02:12:48,360 --> 02:12:51,120 just like they are, but if you help them out, you're part of 3136 02:12:51,120 --> 02:12:52,680 the problem. Lo rez, are they evil? 3137 02:12:52,680 --> 02:12:54,520 I don't think anybody on Entourage is evil. 3138 02:12:54,560 --> 02:12:57,600 No, I think the only evil characters are all the women 3139 02:12:57,600 --> 02:13:00,920 that sleep with Vinny and Lloyd. Lloyd. 3140 02:13:01,160 --> 02:13:02,920 Is not evil. Lloyd's not evil. 3141 02:13:03,040 --> 02:13:06,280 Lloyd's the only good guy. Get out of here. 3142 02:13:07,160 --> 02:13:08,760 No, it's not true. There's probably other good guys 3143 02:13:08,760 --> 02:13:10,680 as well, but dude, these these guys are not. 3144 02:13:11,600 --> 02:13:13,440 I thought it was I'm. I'm not even saying that it's a 3145 02:13:13,440 --> 02:13:15,480 bad show, no. You're not. 3146 02:13:15,480 --> 02:13:17,200 They're not evil. That's a misread of this. 3147 02:13:17,640 --> 02:13:18,760 How? How are they not? 3148 02:13:19,080 --> 02:13:21,640 Jay, I need your input on this because Glenn's been telling me 3149 02:13:21,640 --> 02:13:23,800 all this Jabberwocky stuff about. 3150 02:13:25,120 --> 02:13:28,560 Listen, I, you know, I, I, I watched the full series when it 3151 02:13:28,560 --> 02:13:32,320 came out, but I would really need to see the rest of four and 3152 02:13:32,320 --> 02:13:34,920 where it goes and where it ends and where they pick up with the 3153 02:13:34,920 --> 02:13:37,720 movie to tell you. Because I think if it did wind 3154 02:13:37,720 --> 02:13:41,520 up circling the drain into this nihilist, hey, everybody's 3155 02:13:41,600 --> 02:13:44,760 washed up ending, which is not what happens with Entourage, 3156 02:13:45,080 --> 02:13:46,760 then I would probably agree with you. 3157 02:13:46,760 --> 02:13:51,080 Or if it came at the expense of like in a very significant way, 3158 02:13:51,080 --> 02:13:53,800 somebody's morality. But I do think that they 3159 02:13:53,800 --> 02:13:57,080 encapsulate kind of similar to the Sex and the City characters, 3160 02:13:57,440 --> 02:14:01,720 a lot of the most gluttonous traits that can be exacerbated 3161 02:14:01,720 --> 02:14:04,920 when you're living in one of these cities and going with 3162 02:14:04,920 --> 02:14:08,040 what's expected of you in these industries, right? 3163 02:14:08,360 --> 02:14:10,640 I think that's more transparent with Sex in the City because 3164 02:14:10,640 --> 02:14:13,840 they're, you know, it's very easy to demonize women for 3165 02:14:14,240 --> 02:14:17,600 getting passed around, getting used up, and rightfully so, 3166 02:14:17,600 --> 02:14:22,800 frankly. But with with Entourage, you 3167 02:14:22,800 --> 02:14:26,800 never see it go to like a point where you know, you have Aaron 3168 02:14:26,800 --> 02:14:29,960 Paul getting checked into rehab for his addictions because his 3169 02:14:30,120 --> 02:14:33,000 girl overdosed and somebody watched and knew what was 3170 02:14:33,000 --> 02:14:34,280 happening. You know you don't have that 3171 02:14:34,280 --> 02:14:35,840 moment. Does it happen? 3172 02:14:36,120 --> 02:14:38,520 Have you not seen Antrish? I don't want to spoil our 5 to 3173 02:14:38,520 --> 02:14:40,120 the 6th. That's the thing, I'm only 3174 02:14:40,120 --> 02:14:41,400 talking about seasons one through 4 though. 3175 02:14:41,400 --> 02:14:44,360 I can't I I may have a different answer our next talk. 3176 02:14:44,480 --> 02:14:46,320 OK. Well then look to be continued 3177 02:14:46,320 --> 02:14:48,240 because I don't remember that personally. 3178 02:14:48,240 --> 02:14:51,400 It's been 15. Years, seasons one through 4. 3179 02:14:51,400 --> 02:14:52,800 You cannot say they're bad people. 3180 02:14:54,040 --> 02:14:55,640 Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't it just. 3181 02:14:55,640 --> 02:14:57,240 I'm sorry. There's nothing there to say 3182 02:14:57,240 --> 02:15:00,240 that I I leave plenty of room for that to happen of. 3183 02:15:00,280 --> 02:15:02,920 Course, I would say Turtle actually, you have a case for 3184 02:15:02,920 --> 02:15:07,520 Turtle in Season 1 because he is just not multifaceted at all. 3185 02:15:07,760 --> 02:15:08,960 Yeah. He's just a slob dude. 3186 02:15:08,960 --> 02:15:11,520 He's he's like a sloth, but not. He just doesn't have the he 3187 02:15:11,520 --> 02:15:15,200 doesn't have the the like chops and like bars to do anything 3188 02:15:15,200 --> 02:15:18,080 that's actually catastrophic other than like some bang up 3189 02:15:18,080 --> 02:15:20,320 someone's car. You know, just something like 3190 02:15:20,320 --> 02:15:23,720 that when you, that's what that's like the only guy that 3191 02:15:23,720 --> 02:15:26,080 can really like the guys that can really do stuff like E can 3192 02:15:26,080 --> 02:15:27,560 do something like horribly wrong. 3193 02:15:27,880 --> 02:15:31,320 And I he's only done a few things, but it's, it's all he 3194 02:15:31,400 --> 02:15:34,080 makes up for it usually and it's not, I don't think the stuff 3195 02:15:34,080 --> 02:15:36,680 he's doing is in like poor taste or anything now. 3196 02:15:36,760 --> 02:15:39,800 They're they're just man, I don't know how to say that. 3197 02:15:39,920 --> 02:15:42,480 It's very empty and superficial. These characters. 3198 02:15:42,480 --> 02:15:43,280 That's what that's what they are. 3199 02:15:43,280 --> 02:15:45,360 And that's another like that's. What I would say, I don't think 3200 02:15:45,360 --> 02:15:47,280 that they're bad people, but I don't think that they're good 3201 02:15:47,280 --> 02:15:48,960 people. I certainly don't I all these 3202 02:15:48,960 --> 02:15:52,520 minor infractions that are commonplace for Hollywood that 3203 02:15:52,520 --> 02:15:56,080 they do wind up succumbing to from this point. 3204 02:15:56,160 --> 02:15:58,240 Obviously we'll get into the later half. 3205 02:15:59,280 --> 02:16:01,560 I wouldn't say that they're bad, but they're certainly not making 3206 02:16:01,560 --> 02:16:03,840 a case of they're they're good people just because they happen 3207 02:16:03,840 --> 02:16:08,440 to have, you know, integrity as as long as it relates to their 3208 02:16:08,440 --> 02:16:11,600 circle only. And I'm not a moralist, by the 3209 02:16:11,600 --> 02:16:13,760 way. I'm not like, oh, but but they, 3210 02:16:13,760 --> 02:16:16,400 they suck, man. Like it's a great show because 3211 02:16:16,400 --> 02:16:19,080 of that. Like if, if they're a pious, you 3212 02:16:19,080 --> 02:16:22,400 know, Pontius Pilate, they, they wouldn't be flying high. 3213 02:16:22,400 --> 02:16:23,680 You know what I'm saying? It would just be. 3214 02:16:24,200 --> 02:16:29,120 Well OK, so so would they be? Would they be worse in Queens if 3215 02:16:29,120 --> 02:16:31,200 they all just stayed in Queens with regular jobs? 3216 02:16:31,440 --> 02:16:33,040 No, no, no. But all these hypotheticals 3217 02:16:33,040 --> 02:16:34,719 don't change the reality. You're right. 3218 02:16:34,719 --> 02:16:35,959 Now if. You're either a good person. 3219 02:16:36,000 --> 02:16:37,280 You're either a good person or a bad person. 3220 02:16:37,280 --> 02:16:41,040 I disagree. Yeah, but they're they're not in 3221 02:16:41,040 --> 02:16:43,160 Queens either, so they kind. Of no, they're not. 3222 02:16:43,160 --> 02:16:45,320 I just mean, if you're a bad person, you're going to be bad 3223 02:16:45,320 --> 02:16:48,120 at every socioeconomic level. You know what I mean? 3224 02:16:48,120 --> 02:16:50,120 Every stardom, every. I mean, yes, it can. 3225 02:16:50,360 --> 02:16:53,400 It can definitely intensify some of it when you're a famous star, 3226 02:16:53,600 --> 02:16:57,760 but that it makes it sound like Vinnie loses his soul or through 3227 02:16:57,799 --> 02:16:59,360 seasons one through 4, which he doesn't. 3228 02:16:59,799 --> 02:17:01,520 It's the same fucking guy the entire time. 3229 02:17:01,879 --> 02:17:05,760 Yeah, it's the same bad guy. And I don't, I look, I don't, I 3230 02:17:05,760 --> 02:17:09,200 don't, I don't want to keep the hammering your head on this, you 3231 02:17:09,200 --> 02:17:10,160 know? Well, you're wrong. 3232 02:17:10,160 --> 02:17:12,320 I mean, it's just, it's just wrong. 3233 02:17:12,480 --> 02:17:15,879 Actually I'm right because I. Don't think so. 3234 02:17:15,879 --> 02:17:18,280 You went, you go to Cannes and you come to actually a media 3235 02:17:18,280 --> 02:17:19,840 literacy expert over here. No, no. 3236 02:17:19,840 --> 02:17:22,160 No, no, it has nothing to do with all these talking points 3237 02:17:22,160 --> 02:17:24,680 that you love to bring up. You see this on X, You, you, 3238 02:17:24,760 --> 02:17:27,440 you, you, you watch Tuck on X and now you think, you know, No, 3239 02:17:27,440 --> 02:17:29,520 no, no, no. All I'm saying is these guys are 3240 02:17:29,520 --> 02:17:31,320 very super. These guys are like Pepsi. 3241 02:17:31,719 --> 02:17:33,559 They're Pepsi, you know what I'm saying? 3242 02:17:33,559 --> 02:17:36,760 They're like, they're like a can with some juice inside and they 3243 02:17:36,760 --> 02:17:39,080 use that juice up and sometimes they get refilled. 3244 02:17:39,879 --> 02:17:41,240 But. But they're not good. 3245 02:17:41,559 --> 02:17:43,719 A can of Pepsi is not good. They're empty as hell. 3246 02:17:43,719 --> 02:17:46,320 They're shells, you know, and that I'm not saying they're, 3247 02:17:46,400 --> 02:17:48,400 they're the worst. They're not Al Qaeda, you know, 3248 02:17:48,400 --> 02:17:50,160 but at the same time, they're not virtuous. 3249 02:17:50,360 --> 02:17:52,680 They're not, they're not anywhere near where a human 3250 02:17:52,680 --> 02:17:54,440 being could be. And you're right, it's they 3251 02:17:54,440 --> 02:17:56,200 could be poor in like that, but they're not poor. 3252 02:17:56,600 --> 02:17:59,360 So what does that even matter if if they were poor, they'd be 3253 02:17:59,360 --> 02:18:00,799 like that. That's not an argument. 3254 02:18:00,799 --> 02:18:02,400 What do you mean? It's like like you, you see this 3255 02:18:02,440 --> 02:18:06,959 like they remind me of just a of of a, a lucky friend group that 3256 02:18:06,959 --> 02:18:09,520 got big, but otherwise they were just like smoking weed on 3257 02:18:09,520 --> 02:18:11,959 couches playing Xbox and not hurting anybody. 3258 02:18:12,400 --> 02:18:15,040 Oh, so hurting people makes you a bad person necessarily? 3259 02:18:15,200 --> 02:18:17,879 Correct. OK, well that's a fun. 3260 02:18:18,040 --> 02:18:20,639 We we differ in that different definition for for sure then. 3261 02:18:20,639 --> 02:18:22,719 Your blast radius matters man. Like. 3262 02:18:22,840 --> 02:18:24,799 It's no, no, of course of course I'm not saying it. 3263 02:18:24,799 --> 02:18:28,240 If they were all also sucking the blood from green eyed girls. 3264 02:18:28,240 --> 02:18:30,160 OK like like big trouble little child. 3265 02:18:30,160 --> 02:18:32,200 Like, like are they're not roofing girls drinks? 3266 02:18:32,200 --> 02:18:33,520 Like they're not doing stuff again? 3267 02:18:33,520 --> 02:18:34,760 Does that happen later? Maybe? 3268 02:18:34,760 --> 02:18:35,959 I don't know, but it doesn't seem like. 3269 02:18:36,280 --> 02:18:38,799 A that's that's true, that's true, but they still suck as 3270 02:18:38,799 --> 02:18:41,160 people, you know, if you're smoking weed, playing Xbox, 3271 02:18:41,320 --> 02:18:43,879 doing the Xbox tournament, smoking weed. 3272 02:18:44,799 --> 02:18:47,600 I, I, I think you 2 just have fundamental differences of what 3273 02:18:47,600 --> 02:18:50,240 you consider bad. Like Glenn is coming from like a 3274 02:18:50,240 --> 02:18:52,600 more. I feel like a more maybe not the 3275 02:18:52,600 --> 02:18:56,000 word traditional is correct here, but I think that there has 3276 02:18:56,000 --> 02:18:59,600 to be some severity to whatever the action is you're doing 3277 02:19:00,040 --> 02:19:02,920 causing a negative impact. But DCI feel like you have this 3278 02:19:02,920 --> 02:19:05,719 more. It's an older idea of what bad 3279 02:19:05,719 --> 02:19:09,160 and good maybe that's come around and become a bit fresher 3280 02:19:09,160 --> 02:19:14,360 of trying to recognize like sloth as a as a negative, you 3281 02:19:14,360 --> 02:19:15,799 know, you're. Suffocating your ancestor, 3282 02:19:15,799 --> 02:19:17,680 You're suffocating your grandpa if he's. 3283 02:19:17,680 --> 02:19:19,040 Still alive. What would make like so? 3284 02:19:19,040 --> 02:19:20,680 What would make? What would be something they 3285 02:19:20,680 --> 02:19:26,440 could do to be good within the realm of of entourage? 3286 02:19:26,879 --> 02:19:29,719 Within the real that's that's I mean if you're in hell again, 3287 02:19:29,719 --> 02:19:32,680 you're in hell you're like in the pits and I I say this again, 3288 02:19:32,680 --> 02:19:34,000 this is my favorite show of all time I. 3289 02:19:34,240 --> 02:19:35,360 Love it. Get the fuck out of here. 3290 02:19:35,480 --> 02:19:36,799 Anyways, I'm cutting that part out. 3291 02:19:36,799 --> 02:19:38,719 Go ahead. No, no, it it really. 3292 02:19:38,719 --> 02:19:42,160 Is I love Entourage, you know, but it's disgusting. 3293 02:19:42,160 --> 02:19:44,400 It's like filth. It's like, it's like the ending 3294 02:19:44,400 --> 02:19:46,799 of Berlin Alexander Platts when you have all the whores and the 3295 02:19:46,799 --> 02:19:48,400 people just like slathering around. 3296 02:19:48,400 --> 02:19:51,240 You got the meat house, they're cutting people and then you see 3297 02:19:51,400 --> 02:19:53,720 that's that to me is is Entourage. 3298 02:19:53,960 --> 02:19:55,920 Of course there's all the cool stuff and the fun stuff, but at 3299 02:19:55,920 --> 02:19:57,640 the core it's rotten. You know, it's it's gross. 3300 02:19:58,080 --> 02:20:01,960 That's what I love about. But DC, is there anything on the 3301 02:20:01,960 --> 02:20:05,280 planet really that doesn't contribute to an eventual 3302 02:20:05,280 --> 02:20:08,720 decline in the person on the other end of it that you partake 3303 02:20:08,720 --> 02:20:10,440 in? Like you compared it to Pepsi? 3304 02:20:10,920 --> 02:20:15,800 Well, I mean, Diet Coke has done a lot of good for me personally. 3305 02:20:15,800 --> 02:20:18,560 Me too, I love Diet Coke. From my morale, but I mean. 3306 02:20:19,120 --> 02:20:20,800 Get off your high horse then fuck. 3307 02:20:21,280 --> 02:20:23,000 I but I but if. A person's Diet Coke. 3308 02:20:23,000 --> 02:20:25,760 I, I, I puke. I'm saying these people are Diet 3309 02:20:25,760 --> 02:20:26,840 Coke. These people. 3310 02:20:26,840 --> 02:20:28,280 Can't Diet Coke? Yes. 3311 02:20:28,840 --> 02:20:29,440 President. Yeah. 3312 02:20:29,600 --> 02:20:30,840 Not your president. You're president. 3313 02:20:32,120 --> 02:20:34,160 Dude, something else, man. Yeah. 3314 02:20:34,200 --> 02:20:36,320 Yeah, no, no, but you know, it was, it was just saying like 3315 02:20:36,320 --> 02:20:37,840 these people are just like a product. 3316 02:20:37,840 --> 02:20:41,560 They're just like a factory line sort of assembly line type guys. 3317 02:20:41,720 --> 02:20:47,320 I love DC like as a drink. Where do you play? 3318 02:20:47,320 --> 02:20:48,720 Comes back to word play. Beautiful. 3319 02:20:48,720 --> 02:20:50,080 I love it. No, but no, but you know what 3320 02:20:50,080 --> 02:20:51,360 I'm saying? Like you, I I love this water 3321 02:20:51,360 --> 02:20:54,480 bottle because it keeps me wet, but at the same time, if a 3322 02:20:54,480 --> 02:20:59,160 person's that that sucks, man, like if a person has no has no 3323 02:20:59,160 --> 02:21:01,240 more depth than this water bottle, a person just shake a 3324 02:21:01,240 --> 02:21:02,880 fucking object with fluids in them. 3325 02:21:03,120 --> 02:21:05,600 That sucks. So you like the show because it 3326 02:21:05,600 --> 02:21:07,080 doesn't have depth? Is that is that? 3327 02:21:07,080 --> 02:21:08,720 Is there a? The show has depth but these 3328 02:21:08,720 --> 02:21:12,200 characters are super official. Interesting. 3329 02:21:12,600 --> 02:21:15,400 Yes. OK, I don't, I don't know that I 3330 02:21:15,400 --> 02:21:16,800 understand. However, there. 3331 02:21:16,800 --> 02:21:19,640 Is we don't need to spend more. Time however, there is a Part 2 3332 02:21:19,640 --> 02:21:21,520 of this coming up and I will come back to it because I don't 3333 02:21:21,520 --> 02:21:25,240 forget this shit. So we're gonna next one is gonna 3334 02:21:25,240 --> 02:21:27,600 be we're gonna watch Ari Gold the movie which I think exists. 3335 02:21:28,480 --> 02:21:31,280 We're gonna do that. I don't know, can I? 3336 02:21:31,360 --> 02:21:33,520 Share my screen Do you know Debrick? 3337 02:21:34,280 --> 02:21:36,080 Oh, was that what you were trying to do this whole time? 3338 02:21:36,080 --> 02:21:39,480 Sorry. It's in like a weird mode on the 3339 02:21:39,520 --> 02:21:40,680 bottom. I, I didn't, said John. 3340 02:21:40,720 --> 02:21:42,000 Boyega. It is. 3341 02:21:42,240 --> 02:21:45,000 It's a It's a Doug Ellen film. Oh why? 3342 02:21:45,160 --> 02:21:46,640 Why does all of his shit look so cheap? 3343 02:21:46,640 --> 02:21:48,720 Does he do the Photoshop posters himself? 3344 02:21:49,400 --> 02:21:51,320 He's got the you cut editor like John. 3345 02:21:51,320 --> 02:21:55,400 Ridley Yeah, this looks like a fake movie in Entourage. 3346 02:21:55,800 --> 02:21:58,680 Exactly. But so Doug Ellen is the 3347 02:21:58,680 --> 02:22:00,280 producer on this. OK. 3348 02:22:00,720 --> 02:22:02,480 OK. Is that cash Pattel? 3349 02:22:04,120 --> 02:22:06,520 Sorry, but so this is one we have to see for sure. 3350 02:22:06,920 --> 02:22:08,800 Okay. Sure, Claudine Benoit. 3351 02:22:09,920 --> 02:22:14,920 Coming up, we've got seasons 5 to the 6-7. 3352 02:22:15,080 --> 02:22:17,240 Is there 8? There's the movie. 3353 02:22:17,240 --> 02:22:19,280 Right, the movie, yeah, which takes place. 3354 02:22:19,480 --> 02:22:20,600 But there's not 8. There's not. 3355 02:22:20,640 --> 02:22:25,560 There's 8 proper seasons, right? 7 OK, so 7 plus the movie. 3356 02:22:25,560 --> 02:22:27,680 They did the whole like Deadwood thing right where they just put 3357 02:22:27,680 --> 02:22:31,120 out a movie to to to kind of. Not as much of A layoff, but 3358 02:22:31,120 --> 02:22:34,520 yeah, there was like a good five or six year gap between the last 3359 02:22:34,520 --> 02:22:36,760 season and Entourage the movie. Got it. 3360 02:22:36,760 --> 02:22:38,160 OK. So we'll that that'll be our 3361 02:22:38,160 --> 02:22:43,920 next thing. So guys, TS Cam will be out at 3362 02:22:43,920 --> 02:22:46,760 some point. Don't promote my movie after 3363 02:22:46,760 --> 02:22:48,120 argument. Don't let. 3364 02:22:48,120 --> 02:22:51,040 Don't let an argument color you. We bring up Roger Eaver, but 3365 02:22:51,040 --> 02:22:53,560 nobody can handle an argument. I got it all right, Jesus. 3366 02:22:54,120 --> 02:22:56,560 As a matter of fact, Mass State Lottery, I think it's going to 3367 02:22:56,560 --> 02:22:58,080 be late July. We're going to have some 3368 02:22:58,080 --> 02:23:01,680 screenings in Boston, so dates to come and we'll be updating 3369 02:23:01,680 --> 02:23:03,440 the website. Very nice, very nice. 3370 02:23:03,440 --> 02:23:04,440 Lovely. Love to hear that. 3371 02:23:04,800 --> 02:23:06,280 Shout out to David Lee, Denny Junior. 3372 02:23:06,280 --> 02:23:08,960 All right, guys, everybody have a safe week to look at you guys 3373 02:23:09,320 --> 02:23:10,000 next time.