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Who you with? We're we're joined by by by
Thomas, our our friend from the Prince episode, the epic Prince
episode and you know some of you have heard our appearance on TPN
doing the Prince episode. There's literally a long one of
ours own too. So if you just can't get enough
prints, he's on there along with Evan and Bayou.
Bayou was with us. Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, that was great. So it was a great time.
So, yeah, I just wanted to get you on because I I love
everything you put on the Internet, man.
And like, it's always like, it's always very measured.
So it's very measured And and I, and I don't mean measured as in
trying to be safe. It's like, oh, that's a real
person talking. Like that's a, that's a person.
Like that's a, a good use of the I'm getting away from my friend
group to say my real thoughts, you know, like, like you're
like, oh, that, that looks, that sounds like his real thought on
the Internet, which I don't see enough of.
Damn that. That's that's super reassuring
to hear, man, because it's like, and, and I think this is
something I've largely like, like learned this from you guys.
I think that like I don't want to be a series of the most based
takes possible. I want to be like a dude with
thoughts and feelings and, and, and, and sometimes that's going
to result in me like maybe being like a little more Lib than some
people want me to be or maybe a little bit more based than some
people want me to be. But it's like, I think, I think
being like sincere and like being interested in like looking
for the truth and looking for your own beliefs and looking for
some principles rather than like, I got to arrive at like
the take every time, yeah. Yeah, you're no 100%.
I, I just, I don't know man. I, I can't like when you try to
strive for that award like the most base thing, it is a market
based thing at some point. So you are reading the market?
Literally market based. Yeah, market based and, and
you're, you're doing that. And I just, I grew up with like
talk radio people that I would listen to.
And I was reminded the other day of like how, and I've always,
always said this on here, it's like you kind of want to hate
like 30% of the person you listen to regularly.
Like just hate, like a thing that they say constantly or hate
because it's it's you want to feel every range of emotions.
And that's like talk radio. I'm in the Brandon Decamillo CKY
video where he's like, fuck you in the thing.
And he goes, sorry, I'm talking to AM radio.
This guy's a fucking idiot. Like on AM radio and he's doing
it. And I was like, wow, that's so
true. Because I was listening to Adam
Corolla the other day and he was, you know who I love?
I think Adam Corolla is awesome, totally great.
Gen. X, like just Gen.
X Chud, California chud, you know, just this hilarious guy.
But he said the other day he just was like, he just shit all
over Lou Reed for like 10 minutes and I was just like just
shit all over him. And his favorite band is like
the mighty boss stones. I'm just like, Oh, I was like
you. I hate this about you, but I
can't stop it. It makes me want to listen to
you again. You know what I mean?
Like, I mean, it's like a sign of life.
It's a it's a it's a sign of the human, the nuance of humanity
that I love. That's what we have to alive.
Totally, man, because it's like we got to like I, I, I get kind
of romantic about Twitter. I'm like pretty bullish about
what Twitter is capable of as far as like people making
connections with each other. But like, if we're going to make
sincere connections with each other, then we need to know that
we're like not hiding shit from each other, you know what I
mean? Like I like we need to know that
we're not like just people pleasing here, you know,
otherwise the connection isn't doesn't like count for anything.
You know, that's what. You try to get away from is, is
the people. It's the thing.
It's like you literally do this because it's like, wait, I can't
say. So now I can't not only can I
not say this around you because it's the term counter signal.
I hate more than anything. I think that term is an absolute
poison pill of a term. Like it's just like, no, that
just means like I disagree with you.
Like what's going on. I'm not trying to like stop,
stop your operation from happening.
No, I'm not trying. I just go, if someone just goes,
well, I don't know, that's weird.
What do you mean? You know, and and IA person I
think does a really good job of that is like Anna catching on on
red skirt. She'll just like stop people and
go, what do you wait? What do you mean like that?
And you can tell like they were anticipating like, are they
you're going to let me talk for like 10 minutes about some shit?
And she's like, no, just like the thing you just said.
What do you mean? And then they're like, Oh, well,
this, you know, and then and then you have to explain it.
And a lot of people view that as like a counter signal, which I
don't. I don't like that term at all.
I don't like when people use that because it's just like,
hey, man, like I, I genuinely love discussing things with
people that I view in high regard, you know, or at least,
and even people I don't, it's, it's, it's a, it's a fun thing
to do. So I, I mean, Needless to say,
that's why you're here. That's why we, I, it's tough for
us to get guests. Like a lot of times, you know,
when we want to talk about certain issues because it's
either we talk about the the issue thing, but not we want.
I like people that can fit into what we do and, and, and add
that in there. So this is gonna be really fun,
man. This is gonna be really fun.
You're a you, you, you were, you showed up, you had a guitar when
when we showed up here, you were, you were, you said you
were jamming around. Were you?
Are you a Brian Wilson guy at all?
So I'm I'm not like as Beach Boys literate as I probably
should be. I've only listened to Pet Sounds
a few times, but like, I think when I first, like, because I
was in a band with a guy who like swore by that album, you
know, and the first time I listened to it, I was like,
yeah, OK, I get it. Like, I, I totally see why this
guy's a big deal. Like the vocal harmonies are
insane, but even just his like melodies that he writes I think
are just like literally flawless.
So I haven't spent a ton of time with his music, but I I think
the worship for him is 100% warranted.
I agree. Yeah, I think he's, you know,
it's me. I'm not like a total tonality
guy where you know people, there's people that just obsess
over chord changes and stuff and that's.
You're looking. At no.
And at night I am. So I am that.
I think I'd say no, You are. I was like a bullshit.
You are, yeah. Yeah, no, but it's so like,
that's so there. But I'm saying is like there's
people that will be like, oh, The Beatles suck, here's some
shitty punk band that's way better and you listen to it and
there's nothing. It's fine musically.
I'm not saying music has to be crazy, totally complex, but it's
not what the The Beatles were doing some crazy, you know,
harmony and tonal tonality. Shit, The Beach Boys are the
exact same like what you try. And I saw a post some guy was
like, you know, you, you get into The Beach Boys thinking
you're going to learn a few chords on the guitar and be
like, Oh, I can play a Beach Boys song.
And then you're like, what the fuck are they doing here?
Like this is not some basic pop songs.
Yeah dude, of course it gets it gets really Reddit and stuff
too. But at the score, they are like
they are like a Beatles type. Well, when you're when you're
that big, you, you are going to become red.
I think a lot of people always like there's a lot of people
that don't understand when we call things Reddit, they like
think we cast them off. And I'm like, no, that's just
like there's OK. What was the perfect like I was
trying to when people talked about like Reddit and I'll and
I'll be like, OK, there could be something really like OK, Pulp
Fiction, right? That's that movie is obviously a
very good movie. It's Reddit because people buy
the merch and every big Lebowski too has a big Reddit.
They're like, you know, there's just constant like quoting of it
and like the more niche thing you know about it signals your
fandom rather than an overall holistic enjoyment of it.
Like that's what when the cottage industry inside.
The the. Intellectual property becomes
bigger than the intellectual property in terms of like that.
That's when you notice something becomes a little Reddit.
So anytime when Brian Wilson died, I was like, that's sad,
man. He was what a talent.
You know, that was my take. And then you see all these
things and they go, John Lennon got all the credit and Brian
Wilson just he never got. I'm like, that's your first
thought when Brian Wilson dies? Like is, is that The Beatles who
look, I'm sorry, Brian Wilson like went batshit insane.
Like I heard some reasons are not his fault.
Like they they're self-inflicted things and then things that were
not his. I mean, his dad was like hitting
him in the head with a 2 by 4 when he was a kid.
Like it was nuts. Like just like you think about
the Jacksons, right, Like you think about the Jacksons, but
the Jacksons, at least the dad thought they were good at music.
Brian Wilson's dad's like you guys are gay.
This is like. You're not surfing.
Fuck this dude. Get better at it.
You suck bad. Like, yeah, no, but then of
course, then of course he's all into it and everything, you
know, once they get big. But I I was just thinking like,
man, you know, I'm pretty sure he would have had a more
generational run if he if he didn't go insane.
And of course John Lennon, for the same reason he died.
He gets just there's, there's all that.
But my first thought when my favorite, like favorite artist
or one of my favorite artist dies is isn't like, fuck this
other guy? But when was like, why wasn't it
Aaron? Eric Clapton read it.
Yeah, that's like a that one goes like for and the hatred for
Eric Clapton's a whole nother thing that I can't stand.
But the they they they do this and they freak out about it and
it's just. And it's all to protect their
sensitive young man. And then I realized I'm like,
oh, Brian Wilson's a sensitive young man.
That's all it is. That and like the actual like
that type of fandom, people might be saying Glenn's hating
on Brian Wilson. Absolutely not.
I if you like he's my I know people like I think down in like
Nixon country. I have some relatives down there
in like Orange County and they would go down party at the beach
and they would like see them like as like a beach kind of
band, like back in the they're like, this is incredible.
These guys are this is so cool to have like our own kind of
like Beachy rock band that kind of I, I have nothing but respect
for them. But when I see these people like
just tear down these other artists who I to be honest, like
that, Why not? Why not just be like, wow, that
era was incredible and loaded and awesome where you couldn't
go wrong. Like it just, it's always so
weird to me when people do that. And it's always to protect a
sensitive young man. The day Morrissey dies is going
to be the worst day of all. Oh.
My God, dude, we're going to fucking hear about that.
Yeah, or sit, Sit Barrett, Dude, start.
Go ahead. Sit Barrett.
People that quit, people that quit and go insane.
You are guaranteed to never have people.
You're gonna have like a a fan base forever when that happens.
Yeah, and like, so like I've, I've posted about this before,
like I, I didn't like, OK, it's like my girlfriend and her
family, they're they're like a Beatles family.
Like they grew up like Beatles just like in their DNA, right.
And I didn't, I didn't, I wasn't like raised on it.
So I don't have quite the like deep emotional connection with
them that that she and her family does.
But like, to be clear, The Beatles are the greatest man of
all time. Like that.
That's that's like settled to me.
It's like we don't even why even like fuss about it.
It's just true. And so it's like, God damn,
dude. It just it bums me out.
Like it actually makes me kind of sad that like, you know,
someone like Brian Wilson passes and the first thing someone
feels the need to do is like shit all over something else.
It's like, for one, like, if nothing else, that's just like,
what a terrible way to honor an artist who's, like, made stuff
that moves you, you know what I mean?
It's just like bad energy to me. They were, they were.
Shitting on they were shitting on Mike Love, who I know they
had like, First off, like, OK, I don't, I don't know enough about
The Beach Boys lore beyond somebody like I don't know it
either. I'm sure Mike Love had his
issues. I'm sure there's reason to
believe that he's that he's not a great guy.
But I'm like, you are in a band with like a schizophrenic, you
know, like, like, like, like, you know what I mean?
Like you are in a band with a guy who's just like, literally
like that must have been a nightmare 'cause you know,
you're like, fuck, we really need this guy.
And he's just like, I just took a shit on the grand piano.
I don't think I'm gonna make that.
That really tired me out. I don't think I can make it
today, but I. I've played music with people
with like similar types of issues and it can be difficult,
you know? The juice eventually might be
worth the squeeze, but also kind of not you.
Know. Yeah, and dude, Kokomo's a
Kokomo's a banger, dude. Kokomo I was just about to say,
dude, that's. Just you're not gonna, we're not
gonna. You can't just toss off a mic
love, you know? Dude, Chet Hanks.
Chet Hanks, yeah. He loves that stuff.
Did Chet Hanks like get into Kokomo?
I'm not. There's a clip of him and I
can't refind it for that. It's weird.
It's hard to find, but he's in some he's in some like dive bar
with a jukebox and he's like, he's like Instagram live
streaming. He's like Rose.
I just heard this song for the first time.
You gotta check it out. And yeah, I.
Love. That dude, I was like, that's
dude. My mom used to work at a
trucking company many years ago and and Al Jardine is another
member of of The Beach Boys and he lived in Big Sur.
And like my mom was looking at their they would deliver like,
you know, grand pianos. And she was like a dispatcher in
a way kind of situation. So she'd be like, OK, so I'll
send a guy to deliver this. It was a surfboard to Al
Jardine. And I'm like, obviously it's
him. You're like, you're like, oh,
what is it just some coincidence another guy with that name
that's ordering a surfboard at Big Sur?
Yeah. It's like a Muslim Al Jar
Jardine. Mohammed Al Jardine.
Yeah. Love to surf, bro.
I love to surf, bro. From Iran, bro.
Freak out here, bro. Brian Wilson, bro.
Tone changes, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was just. I was like, because I was like,
that is sick, though. Yeah, yeah.
She delivered a smoke or like she was saw the manifest for a
good delivery, like a smoker for Jerry Rice.
All these, like big players. It was pretty fun.
Al Jardine was in the in the in the big one there.
So should we should we talk about Speaking of Beach Boys,
Remember the Remember the Bomb? I ran song back?
In I forgot about this. Transition yeah, I was I was
just thinking about that. It was Barbara Ann and I think
wasn't it like Mike Huckabee singing it back in the day?
You used to just get back in the day, you didn't have to hide
about bombing people like you. You would just be like, we're
going to go scorch the fucking Jeff Dunham just did a puppet
show with this. We're going to take out all of
that puppet in the Middle East and.
And they would they would do the bomb bomb or was there was a.
Weird Al or something to did that?
No, Weird Al. Weird Al would never push the
envelope like that dude. Weird Al.
Weird Weird Al. Yeah, I mean, what if he is?
What if your Weird AL's just like insanely based like Rob
Schneider? Yeah, Rob Schneider was cool.
Rob Schneider had it in him. He was.
Rob Schneider reads like Steve Kirsch on sub stack.
It's crazy. I'm.
Sorry, Rob Schneider's like a pretty careful thinker.
He's definitely he's not like a he's not like a reflexive like
celebrity based. This guy, He's kind of like, yo,
am I wrong about that? You know, it's really
interesting. Yeah, it's, it's, yeah, of
course, the vaccine stuff. Yeah, that's the.
Main yeah, no, I just I remember one time during COVID, like when
every day it was like somebody like it would a celebrity would
come out and be like I've surrounded by anti vaxxer and
they would freak out and you'd be like, well, there's another
celebrity that's just being stupid, you know, like and then
all of a sudden I was like, damn, dude, do some Bigelows
active man. Well, I was like, man, he's
going crazy. Yeah, that was great.
I know people were like throwing that in his face, like dude,
you're fucking like an Adam Sandler actor.
I'm like, that's sick. You're just in your movies with
your friends from Saturday Night Live your whole life.
That's awesome. Yeah.
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episode. Si Si's been chomping at the
bit. He's been he's been texting me.
I've been texting me and I've never seen him.
I've never seen him get this. You're not I won't call you
flustered. You're not flustered, but you
got you got a little bite to you sound like me a little bit when
I get a little after it. So tell me, tell me about the
Iran situation right now and why it's not good, actually.
Yeah, I don't know. I just think first of all like,
well, first of. All talk about talk about it
holistically and then the online activity around it afterwards.
I think those are two separate things, I think.
The timeline, from what I understand is the the, you know,
the Netanyahu and Israel were beefing with Iran and then they
started military action against them while the United States was
supposedly having dialogue and peace talks with Iran.
And then lo and behold, within less than a week does a 180.
And then we bombed the nuclear facility.
And, and yeah, I just think, I don't know, I I just think that
maybe, you know, again, there's people that freak out and say
this is the start of like World War three and all this shit and
just immediately just chomp at the bit for that.
And then there's the other end of the spectrum, the plan
trusters, which I've never really been fully bought it.
I've never like, I'm just like not the type to buy into any of
this. You're.
Just not in the way. You're just not a plan guy.
No, I'm not like in. General.
In general, I don't think you really like plans in general.
Fucking dinner. Plans, dude, Dinner plans.
You're like, I'm not a plan truster.
I'm not showing. Up.
Yeah, definitely not. Maybe the buffet, but no.
But. I.
Don't know. And I'm just, I don't know,
there's I think it's good. We have guys like Dave Smith and
Glenn Greenwald and Max Blumenthal and all these, you
know, Thomas Massie, yes, I think, and I think it's good we
have those guys, even though they can be annoying at times.
And like, you know, it's kind of be naggy.
It's like a nag for someone that's nagging you and you're
like, shut up. I know, you know, kind of thing.
But and then on the other end of the side of the coin you have,
you're going. To say spectrum, you're going to
say spectrum. That's all right.
Yeah, that's fine. That fit.
There's our local, we just went to this coffee shop today and
the their house blend is called Spectrum Blend and it's
literally like a rainbow like puzzle thing.
It's like, is this on purpose or is this?
Yeah, but tender chicken tenders and pasta with nothing.
Yeah, it's like notes of chicken tender.
Yeah, but yeah, but now you OK, Now you have, regardless of
whatever this is, like 5D chess or 20D chess or whatever, which
I'm frankly a little doubtful of, not 100%, but I'm just like,
I'm just not buying that right away.
Now you have people, you know, all the people that the MAGA
coalition threw to the curb, rightfully so this last time,
Mike Pence, John Bolton, all these people are like, yeah,
this was the best thing ever. And everyone has to pretend that
it's now. And I'm like, I'm just like, can
we get some like consistency? And also, even if you agree with
what's happening and everything, like you just, you have to admit
that a, a certain very real and sizeable percentage of maybe not
the majority, but at least, I don't know, 30% didn't vote for
this shit. And that's just, that's OK to
admit and to say, you know, and I don't know, I just feel like
everyone's kind of, you know, I, I just.
I don't know, I just don't. I just don't have that level.
I don't have that dog in me to to just go along with any of
this shit right away. I also think there's another
thing. I feel a lot of people feel the
same and they don't speak about it, you know, because they're
scared of group chats or whatever or anything, you know,
but which is really fucking gay. But yeah.
Tai tea, dude. That's actually Tai tea, dude.
Yeah. I want you, Yeah.
Yeah. I mean the best case scenario,
you know, I just don't, I just don't trust the Israel aspect of
this. And I don't think of this is
going to, they're going to sit down and not.
And also I do hate geopolitics And I, I'm not like, I know, I
don't like, I'm not an expert in this, you know, and it's just,
that's my thing. I think when you're, you know, I
know Massey and those guys can be annoying, but when you're
kicking them to the curb and kind of doing this whole like
with us or against us thing. And I got to say, like, like
Cernovich, that guy is so strange because he's like, he's
doing Massey style tweets. But then every fifth one would
be like, Massey's such a fucked art.
He can't get along with us. I'm like, dude, you're doing
what he's doing. Like you're literally, you're on
his side on this issue. So it's just so confusing and I
don't know, it's so dumb. Yeah, yeah.
Well. It's on America first.
So what happened to that? I just what happened to?
America first. So I will I, I want to hear
Thomas and because I, I will, I will present the opposing sides
argument and why and then mine because I, there's, there's an
opposing side argument that people are making that I think
is interesting. But Thomas, I want to hear your
take on. This Yeah.
And like, gosh, you got a lot of thoughts about this.
Like, I mean, that that's something I hadn't considered
that like people who like people who because like MAGA kind of
took over the right, right or took over the Republican Party,
right. And like, and then some, some of
the the old right wingers kind of like took their ball and went
home, which we were like cool. And and like, yeah, yeah.
When I say we like, you know, like I self identify as right
wing, I know you guys don't necessarily do that.
And and so like, I don't want to like lump you into some shit
that you don't feel like you. That's fine.
That's cool. Yeah.
That's my my big take with it is I say my opinion and it's up to
you. Like, and I've been called
everything in the book. So I've always, I kind of think
that's kind of how politics actually works is, yeah, unless
we're running for office, you kind of really can't declare
anything. Like because somebody could say
I'm right wing, but I'm fucking freaking out about something
completely leftist and people go, well, instead he's right
wing. It's like, well, all right, I
don't think so though, you know, so, but, but I see what you're
saying like I see what you're saying.
Like I, you know. Like I, I, I'm so like, I guess
I'll just to like air my biases out.
Like I consider myself like kind of a plan truster and like I use
that term like kind of tongue in cheek.
Like I'm always like sort of half joking, right?
But like, to me what what it means to be like a plan,
Chester, is that I I believe that Trump, the reason I like
Trump is that I think he likes America, you know, and I, I
think that's more than I can say for a lot of politics for sure,
you know, and like. He doesn't actively hate
everyone in the country. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, it was a shame that that's like such a such a like selling
point because that should be like a given.
But he like, I don't think you can say that about Kamala
Harris, but it's like, I think, I think that's like his general
orientation. I think he tends to want what's
best for America. That's not to say that every
single one of his actions is going to be like perfectly
America first. But I guess like I, I think for
one, it's OK to support the guy and not love everything he does.
I think that just like should be fine.
Yeah, of course. But like, I guess to me, my hope
is that like, this thing doesn't escalate into another forever
war. Like I my main thing, I just
hope that Americans don't have to die for this.
And honestly, like, to me, if no Americans die and, and I can
just like maybe we can reach a point where I don't have to
think about this shit anymore because it's not really in any
of my business. That would be like pretty much
fine. And yeah, yeah, I guess that's
that's kind of a scattershot way of introducing my perspective
there, you know? OK.
So you said something at the end there that I think a lot of
people are really trying to press Fast forward on this.
Like they're like, I want, I, I fucking hate this.
I trust the plan, trust the plan, Fast forward and then
nothing happens, right? I think that's what a lot of
people, a lot of people want, including myself.
Like I, I straight up right now, I want like nothing to happen
beyond this. So right now we're recording
this, it's 3:30 on Monday, June 23rd is West Coast time.
So at this point, what we know is that the US has attacked the
Iran missile, but I suck at this.
The missile bases. Fucking I don't know I that, but
then, but then Iran, apparently it's it's literally customary to
them. I believe Merrick from good old
boys basically said, I don't know who it was.
It told me, but Muslims literally take turns like in
war, like they literally it's like you get a turn, I get a
turn like like are those countries like like I maybe
that's a thing. I have no idea.
It seems like it was. It seems like they were like,
look, we have to do something like we have to like do
something that got intercepted. It's and apparently it's not a
thing now. There's a lot of people saying,
well, that's it. Trust the plan.
I want, I, I want that to be the case.
Straight up. I want that to be the case.
And a lot of times when you come at it and you try to poke holes
or not poke holes, but just like offer like a hmm, I'm not, I'm
not really into that. A lot of people think there's a
like electoral consequences to that.
And I'm like, well, that's over. I don't, I, I've made it
abundantly clear that I don't want Kamala Harris anywhere in
your presidency. She's not.
I don't think also I've ever
going to be. Yeah, I'd argue that I'd argue
almost the opposite for if you care about this kind of stuff.
I really don't honestly. But if you care about midterms
and stuff, this has potential to hurts and the, you know, the
kind of and we could get these whatever we had in 2020 back
again. For sure.
No, exactly. Like you haven't entrenched like
there's a big swing to the right in terms of like political power
right now more than it's been in quite some time in terms of,
yeah, all the branches. It's not guaranteed to stay that
way. Now, granted, there's plenty of
Democrats that are down for this war stuff.
I am generally pretty black pilled geopolitically.
That's like kind of why I don't care, because a lot of times you
get to the answer and you're like, wow, I hate the answer,
you know, and then and then and then you realize you're like,
OK, but what's my Ave. to stopping it?
And a lot of people will say, well, leftism, I'll go cool, let
me say all my other beliefs around them and they'll be happy
to have me. You know, there's always there's
always that. So you I do feel genuinely black
pilled geopolitically now. I still am kind of a like hippie
little loser about about war. I just don't like it.
I just. Yeah.
Totally, I just don't, it's not for me and I can't pretend to
now like I just and some people will say, well, it's not going
to be a war going like and I, and I again, I'm hoping for that
and I, I do think there's something to it where if we did
have Kamala, not only would this Iran thing might still be
happening, I don't know, maybe, but Russia definitely could do
World War three with allies and stuff like and she she her
administration seemed hell bent on the Putin stuff.
So like that, that to me is like, yeah, that like I
definitely still think at least like Iran.
It's like who's coming to help Iran?
Like probably. Well, they're not all the all
the lips are quiet about this. If you notice, they're not like,
yeah, it's still missing some puzzle against.
It's still no Kings, dude. They're still on no?
Kings. Yeah, exactly.
They're. On the Yeah, they're on no
kings, dude. They're they're, they're,
they're going to get this like a month from now, like they're
going to be like, Oh yeah, it's and, and also, again, there's
plenty of, you know, stuff for Democrat and there's a lot of
Democrats that like Israel. So it's kind of like they're
not, it's pretty tough for them to like, you know, it's not all
Twitter. That's why Twitter kind of isn't
real life. A lot of times I'm like, you're
going to meet like a straight up libtard that draped in Israeli
flags like, like you will like, like in real life, you're just
like, oh, OK, so. And what I didn't like was that
I was like, OK, a simple saying like, hmm, I'm not into that.
That doesn't mean I'm not gonna say like you see, like the Nick
Fuentes's see see, but you know, like those people.
I I just hate when everyone a I hate sacred cows.
I can't do sacred cows. Anytime I see sense something
become a sacred cow, I almost have a contrarian element to be
like, yeah, but you know, then then, but then the on the other
end of it, it's kind of like, okay, we we don't need to we
don't need to do the like optics thing right now.
It's not that big of a deal. I in fact, I think the fun part
about all of this was like seeing kind of a nuanced right a
little bit like, I think it's good.
I think it's good that you have that like what Sai was saying.
I think it's good because like on the left, like you straight
up just get like thrown into a wooden.
That's exactly like, yeah, that's that's what I've been
thinking here is I started to catch you up with like I was, I
was thinking about this just last night.
I was talking to this dude. I was like, like on the left,
you straight up can't have a dialogue, right?
It's you get the memo and you fall in or you get kicked out.
You know, those are those are the two options.
So it's like on the right, like we could say that like the
diversity is our strength. You know what I mean?
We could say that like, because there's people on the right,
it's kind of a diffuse group and there's different people with
different perspectives and like it's highly opinionated, often
very intelligent people with different perspectives.
Like if we can make that dialogue, like I think that not
only has like not only practical implications as far as just like
helping like iron sharp and iron and helping people just like get
smarter. It also is just like a thing
that people like, want to be a part of, you know what I mean?
Which I think I'll speak like that.
That seems like an advantage, you know?
Yeah, well, and, and so I guess so at Sy's point was, Sy said
earlier, America First. Right now there's a lot of
people that would argue, not myself, but I, I think it's
important to at least understand their argument that America
First means America wins everything.
America controls everything. America's literally in first
place. You know what I'm saying?
Like, like that's what they mean.
Like across the entire globe. Now, Israel to those people is
your hub in the Middle East. It's the non-muslim hub in the
middle, in Middle East where you could control everything.
It's basically like an American like Hawaii out there basically
to them, you know, or just any, any sort of like kind of
sovereign state and whatever, like you.
That's that's what they say about that.
And I know some people who think like that, obviously they're
cheering this on. It's coherent.
I don't agree. So it's that, but that is there.
There are a lot of people, though, who I know who are like,
Oh, I was down for like American nationalism, play defense,
defense wins championships. Like kind of situation where
we're like, look, we we defend America.
I am of the Welbeck submission mind myself, where it's like, if
you're worried about the threat from the Middle East, solidify
your culture in America, because that's what about well, Michelle
Welbeck submission is about it's not.
It's not necessarily about Muslims are scary.
Like he does say that, but I just mean he's like they he's
like they they know exactly what they want and what their country
looks like. And then in Europe, they're so
scared to just go. This is what Europe is.
So that so that makes it so another Michael Crichton did the
same thing with rising Sun. It's like when one country knows
exactly what they want and the other one's like whatever, you
know, like a lot of times the other country's going to take
the, the, the So that's like, I'm more so like, look, we have
like our own war in America. Like I legitimately think the
culture war in America is kind of real.
It's like actually real, and it's kind of worth fighting for
like in. My.
Opinion, in my opinion. So when I'm just kind of like,
OK, when I hear that, it's just like, look, Bibi was able, you
know, Donald Trump is this rogue maverick guy.
But then Bibi Netanyahu got sad, so he had to strike someone for
him. You know, like that to me, I'm
like, OK, that's, that's not checking out for me.
Like, that's not that's that's, you know, do do him like you do
Zelensky, you know what I'm saying?
Like, yeah. Like, like I kind of wish like
there was a little bit of that. And it's just then you see that,
like there, I think there's truth to the pair of political
people that can be very annoying sometimes, but they very much.
I'm like, yeah, there's probably something to that.
And I just think it's like pointing that out, like in a
especially the way Tucker does it.
There were people freaking out about Tucker.
First off, if you think one guy was posting fucking alien,
Tucker thinks you got visited by demons and aliens and like, oh,
is that supposed to fucking get me away from him?
No way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, guy with a
cool house guy with a cool house that pops in all day and fucking
throws on jam and guitar music and talks about cool shit like
wow, I'd hate that. But anyways, like people, I I
just was like, dude, this is so this is so fake and I don't know
what the optics is. People are trying to trying to
secure like like people just go like, oh man, I just wish I just
wish you would trust I go. Well, The thing is, is I want to
know what the plan is. That's just what it is.
Like, just tell me exactly what the plan is, and then I'll
decide if I trust it. Because The thing is to me is if
you always believe in what's happening, you'll always come
out on top, right? That's what everyone's trying to
do. Like, well, well, that's what I
wanted. That's what I wanted because I
trust the plan well. That's what no one was.
No one was talking about Iran 2 fucking weeks ago, right?
No one was. It was not they.
They've been doing this. They've been doing this two
weeks away from a nuclear missile for literally 4 decades
now. Like it's been a neocon wet
dream. Yeah, which I thought we were
all trying to get away from that.
I just thought again, like, yeah, what's the plan?
I thought we were trying to move away from that.
And it's like, again, I'm down to like, even in conversations
with God, they're like, yeah, pacifism is going to lead to
retardation. Like, you can't be all past this
all the time. And that's like the most happy
spiritual move of all time. Yeah.
So I, I like, you know, I like having sick military.
I think we do waste a lot of money there, you know, all blah,
blah, blah. I think the planes are sick, the
bomb, you know that. I've always loved that.
But the whole thing is like, and like, and again, just like all
the stuff that's happening with like Tulsi Gabbard and RFK where
like Tulsi like see in March was like, yeah, they're not building
a nuclear weapon. And then two like 2 days ago,
she's like, no, they are. I'm like, okay, that's fake.
You're lying. You're, you know, it's like
you're just saying this now. We've been through this before.
We've been just saying like, come on, like just have a little
bit of don't be so incredulous or incredulous where it is.
You know, just like, come on guys.
Like just a little bit. Of yeah, to me it's, it's like,
I mean the, the, the two things I have here is like, I don't
know if you guys listen to night owls that maybe not quite you've
seen, but like. That's like a space, right?
Yeah. Yeah, I have.
I'm not a night owl anymore, dude, honestly.
Like like early. I don't mean.
I've never actually listened. I just mean I literally can't
stay up that later anymore. Like happened really fucking
late like so I'm. Like he does a lot of time.
But yeah, so like, yeah, the the two guys that run it, it's a
nightmare vision and future Moldovan citizen and Moldovan as
they call him, he said he like prefaced this by like he's
trying to like, you know what, trying to declare his like
allegiance. He says like, I love Donald
Trump. I would die for Donald Trump.
I love him more than anything. But I don't really like what's
going on with Israel right now. And like that to me seems like
right, that that's not counter signaling.
That's just like a guy saying what he thinks.
And I think that it's like kind of the bare minimum that that
should be like allowable. I, I do think, I mean, speaking
like spirituality, you know, it's like, there's almost like a
Daoist element to this that like, you know, with like, like
the idea of Wuwei is that like, you never want to burn excess
energy, right? Like if you, if you burn too
many calories, you eventually see like diminishing returns,
right? And so like, if if it turns out
from and like, you know, Wuwei might be more than we can
reasonably expect from the US military, But like, if it turns
out that like this was an application of exactly as much
force as was necessary and then you don't push it any further,
then like, OK, cool. And again, like what you were
saying, like I hope that's true. But it's like, yeah, I mean,
maybe I'm repeating myself a little bit, but just like, yeah,
I think it, it should be fine to just like express different
ideas without being accused of blackmailing or counter
signalling. And, and yeah, like I, I guess,
and we'll see how it plays out. And, and maybe this turns out to
be a total catastrophe and I'll eat my words.
But it, it could be something like, you know, you guys
remember when Qassem Suleimani got killed?
Because that was one of those things where people were like,
oh, Trump jacked an Iranian guy. Now it's going to be ended up
not being totally catastrophic. We'll see if it plays out
similarly. That's again, that's my hope.
So, so that that's a good point. That's that's one call back
where you're like, OK, that didn't really, you know,
whether, you know, you could always say, oh, I shouldn't have
done that, but at least it didn't lead to fucking what
nobody wants. Really.
Literally. No, but no, like, I'm sorry, I
don't believe this many people after watching Vietnam, Iraq and
all that stuff go, yeah, war's sick.
Let's do it forever. Yeah.
Like, so to me it's it's like, OK, if this if this is just tit
for tat, we're done. Iran saw our teeth and said,
Nah, like and said, OK, we're good.
We'll retreat if that's the case.
My thing is, I would trust Trump to make that decision on his
own. I absolutely.
Exactly but. But when Bibi Netanyahu gets mad
again, which, what, an hour from now?
An hour from now, he gets mad. And do you respond every time he
gets mad? Sure.
Like, you know, like to me, look what they what do they say about
kids, right, that you don't pick them up every time they fall
Because if you do that every fucking time, they expect it
every time. And like, dude, I saw like the
most rabid Zionist people going like, it's not enough, Don.
Yeah. Yeah, you know, like it's like,
it's like, OK, here's the thing. Like that's that's my problem.
I don't if if Trump was just like that guy's going to fucking
wreck shop on America, not even even just like that guy.
We got to take that guy out. Again, still not really my
expert area of expertise, but I would I would.
It doesn't result in like massive, massive, massive
bloodshed and you get it done and it's calculated.
That's fine. And also to me, I'm, I'm a
little worried that now this is my worst case scenario theory,
worst this case scenario. This is not what I expect to
happen, but it's the in the back of my mind, the worst thing that
can happen is within realistic. OK, look, let's, let's, let's
say this, if you, you get a OK, let's say you, you know, Iran
with this, they've, they've they've struck back, but it was
intercepted and, and nothing and nothing happened.
And then you go, OK, we're at peace.
Iran said no more, right? We're not doing that.
We don't, I don't know what everyone's take on 9/11 is.
However, I have a feeling a lot of people feel the way I feel
about 911 and I'm not going to go into it right now, but I
don't believe the thing you see on major news networks.
Let's just say that much. I'm very false flag pilled.
And if you want a forever war, that's what it's built on.
That's the only thing missing right now is from this whole
thing. And, and I, I'm not saying
they're going to do it, but I've already seen the you there's a
lot of they were talking about Iranian sleeper cells.
We have our own too. I mean that the culture war is
fought by sleeper cell people. They like, like every culture
war moment. I feel like 50 to 60% of them
are deployed and like, you know, and and unironically made on
like Reddit and stuff like like like in discord and not the rare
candy discord, but. You know.
The but they the I'm scared of that to where everyone goes,
well, now we have to. And then you realize you're
going like this is all based off fucking some fake ass shit, you
know, and that and that's and that's when I get scared, right?
That's what I don't want to happen.
Now, I think if it's played on the surface level and what we're
told is what we're is what's going to happen, which frankly,
that doesn't happen a lot. But if that if that's the case,
I expect this to die down a little bit again.
What is your response to Bibi Netanyahu next time?
And also ask for something in return.
Fuck. Yeah, totally.
Yeah. Like ask for something in
return, literally. One thing.
Like at least. Hook us up with some like extra
hummus or something. I don't know what they have in.
Israel, well, no, they give, they give the US stuff in return
in terms of military surveillance and hubs and stuff,
but sure. Or like us, you know, like the
yeah, literally something like like because.
But again, not going to happen. That's that's not the that's not
the patronage system between the US and Israel.
So I just that to me, I, I'm not saying that's going to happen.
It's in the back of my mind and it's in the back of a lot of
people's mind. And I think you should be
afraid. You should at least say like,
Hey, I hope this doesn't happen like.
And that that's me because like we're all like like early to mid
30s or whatever. So like we, we lived through
that stuff. We lived through 911 and all the
stuff that happened after that. So I think it's, I think it's
like fair enough for people of our generation to be like, hey
man, we saw some stuff like this.
We really, really don't want it to happen again.
Like, that's not unfair, you know?
It was in the same facet too. Look, I think Trump is a million
times better than George Bush. Honestly, regarding what happens
right now, I think domestically Trump does a really good job.
I think, like you said, I think he genuinely wants the country
to be pretty good. Doesn't actively hate a large
percentage of the country like it's for who they are at least.
And you I think that's that's the case.
But like you look at what happened in the early 2000s.
It was a it was a, you know, you had George Bush taking over
after a long time Democrat. So those guys probably agreed on
war more than they didn't. You know, that's the whole
neoliberal neoconservative alliance thing that happened.
But to the American public, that was very divided between those
two people, they're like, look, we handed the country over and
we got attacked, you know, So when you all I mean is I wish
people were a little bit more false flag pill, like just a
little bit like because I I just have a feeling the people who
are trusting the plan will buy into the false flag.
If that does happen, we'll just go, yeah, we absolutely got
attacked. You know what I mean by by this?
You know, even though there's been wars that are literally
started on from false flags, I mean, you, yeah, there's been
plenty of them for like a long time.
I mean you, I forget what the one was the was it Spanish
American? The one that was with the ship
getting sunk? Like you think of the Gulf of
Tonkin, right? Is that no?
No, no, no. Before that, yes, that too
night. I'm not again.
Not that there was a ship that that I think it was Spanish
American that there was a ship that got there like they sunk
our ship. It turns out it was a call was
coming from inside the house. You know, Franz Ferdinand too,
in a way. Like, I don't know if that's a
false flag, but you there's a lot, there's weird pair of
political theories about that. I just know some.
Look, I'm a little conspiracy brained.
I haven't been working in 10 months and I'm reading like
postmodernist conspiracy novels. So Bear.
With me, Bear. With me, guys like bear with me
and I'm not. And what I hate is people that
talk about counter signaling and stuff, they pick the lowest
common denominator and say this is who you are.
When you say anything in that thing, you're you're this
screeching Lib talk, you know, and I go, I haven't, I'm just
talking regular to people like like you got to be able to you
got to be able to at least explain this to me who actually
like wants this to be what you want it to be, you know, like,
yeah, it's tells. Me yeah just like at least at
least give me some credit and like and it kind of goes back to
what we were talking about in the beginning just like, you
know I'm not trying to like I don't have like a white board to
my right that you guys can see it has like my take on every
issue it's like, oh, this is my most based thing I can say about
issue and that one it's like, no, I'm just a guy trying to
like like figure out like I'm just trying to navigate this
stuff man and it's like if we don't have room to kind of
stumble, then it's like then I don't know, maybe it's not quite
this bad, but it's like you almost might as well be on the
left. You're right, if you're just
getting like policed like that, you know what I mean?
And so, yeah, dude, there's got to be some room for that stuff.
And and yeah, like, I like war is one of those things that I
think like the people sometimes have to like dig their heels in
on and go like, no, for real. No, no, we're not doing this
like, because it's, it's like, like you said, you know, there's
some, some libs who might be draped in the Israeli flag and
there's like war is like more like bipartisan than a lot of
issues are, you know what I mean?
So it's like they're, they're, I mean, and on, on maybe a more
hopeful note, I do think something that's good about
Trump is that he wants people to like him.
And I think he, he wants, I think he wants his base to like
him. And I think that makes him
responsive to his base. And that might mean that like,
So what what can get called counter signaling, Counter
signaling. Maybe that's just people trying
to like, steer the ship a little bit.
That's what I'm and that's a good ecosystem.
Like that's what I mean, let it happen.
Let these guys like Massey be like, hey, bro, like I'm like
kind of on your like at least in your side, people would say he's
an enemy. I I don't think he is.
I think he's just like literally like, hey, a few couple
questions here. Like, what are we doing?
Like we, we thought we said that like explain it to him because
it's easier to explain it to somebody who like wants.
I mean, I don't think Thomas Massey wanted Kamala Harris to
win at all. Like, I don't, I don't think
that I, I like, like explain it to him, you know, like, like
instead of using this guy as a sacrificial lamb, you know, like
this is a guy in politics very loved in his state.
Like, I think he runs like people literally don't oppose
him in his state when he runs. Like they're just like this guy
in Kentucky. Like they love him.
He's very beloved over there. And there's a lot of people who
came to Trump through guys like Mass, like literally like people
who just didn't vote. So yeah, yeah, you can appease
one base. And I think try I think Trump is
always campaigning. That's one thing about Trump.
He's always campaigning. I even though he literally can't
be president again, like he I think he's still is in campaign
mode where he's like, all right, I got those people want this,
these people want this like, you know, weighs his options.
I genuinely like like a lot of the stuff he was doing because,
you know, like just to me, I my problem is, is like also here's
my here's my last problem with that.
I mean, I think it's safe to say none of us want a war with Iran.
Like I think it's safe to say we can put a button in that.
But my other thing with with this is have you noticed that
there's this weird like time manipulation thing that happens
with like news, the news cycle like, OK, in the last week
there's been the No Kings protests and the Iran stuff in
the last week, it's been a week. Jesus Christ.
Yeah, that's crazy. Oh, it's weird.
So in the concept of a lot of us getting this information on our
phones, I think now the phone is the main source of news, right?
I think we can we could say that like only the boomers have the
loud Jake Tapper yelling TV like that.
Look for right now, most people are getting but your phone, you
notice like you're like, damn, I wasted two hours on my phone and
went by really fast. You're like, but conversely, I
was searching, I was looking at discourse around top fix that
slow time down and stretch it out.
Like it was really strange. Every day feels like a crazy
event like that that happens, even though it's kind of not
like and and I just hate that. Like I bogged beef said it
perfectly about the I the protests about people who were
like, go out there and mow them down.
Trump fucking National Guard. Like, you know, he was like,
dude, it's been fucking four months.
Like like he's like, it doesn't. And I I forgot that it had or
five months, whatever. Like, And so I, I was just, I
hate the, because that's the Michael Crichton state of fear
model, right? Like that's, that's the, the
constant fear. Even if you, you're not going to
steer that machine the right way, like a lot of time, like
it's really tough for you to like harness that machine and
use it your way because the fear, it's got to be panic on
all sides constantly. And that's not always good if
you're actually like on one side, you know.
And so I was, I thought that I thought that was, I just noticed
that like a lot. I was like, that was a week.
I mean, tariffs. Tariffs.
How long ago was tariffs? Yeah, Yeah, we were trading, I
was. 7. Yeah, I was in first.
Grade when tariffs happened. Yeah, no, I don't.
I wish that now that was a weird one.
People freaked out about tariffs.
I'm like, you have no clue what's going to happen.
Yeah, like literally no one does.
And I, and to be fair, even the geopolitics I don't have, I
don't know what's going to happen.
So I just I don't like when people are so sure of
themselves, so confident in their evaluations, especially
when you can just delete shit. So it's like, all right, well,
you know, you deleted that, you know, or whatever.
And. I like.
So it's just, it's just, it's that part to me bothers me a lot
is how like the time manipulation of the news cycle.
I, I've, it's been that way since Trump got elected.
I don't know. But it's just, he's just a guy
you can do it around very easily because he's very polarizing.
But yeah, I, I, I, I really, I, I had stepped away that weekend
when the No King stuff was happening and I was like, wow,
this is like time is moving at a different pace right now than
when I'm like in my regular life.
And yeah, like as long as we're shutting our good old boys, like
I think like, you know, Merrick said about, about the Iran
stuff, he's like, you know, winning for me means never
having to think about this again.
And and so it's like, yeah, just just, yeah, the the, the amount
of like the, the number of takes and the amount of information
that we're like constantly taking in is like probably not
super healthy, right? Like that.
Like the weird way the time feels, it feels like it kind of
feels like nothing's happening, but it feels like a ton of shit
is happening really fast. And like, I wonder if that's
like, I don't know, like kind of unhealthy, you know what I mean?
Yeah. Absolutely, yeah, I I know, I
think and then, you know, like kind of kind of just the the
whole idea of I wanted to put a pin on like the kind of like
homogeneous thought that happens in circles where I think people
are actually really smart and it's kind of disappointing.
I think this kind of like company laminated company rules
on the wall kind of thing. I just really, really don't like
that is I have to shout out to my guy, one of the greatest
thinkers of all time, Michael Crichton.
He outsmarted Terence McKenna one time, which that's more time
than anybody else has. That's.
Crazy. OK, well.
I'm, I'm, I'm joking a little bit.
Terence McKenna is an optimist. I think Terence Mckenna's
biggest problem, and I'll explain the dynamic here in a
second, but Terence McKenna was a he had a beautiful view of
humanity because if I was as smart as him and as chill out as
him and fucking had the set up as him, I'd love life.
Dude, if he cares about cancer, fuck, kill me.
I don't care. Like, you know, like life's just
starting, you know, and then but anyways, his idea and, and this
was the reason I found out about this, was he, Terence McKenna
was on coast to coast one time with Art Bell many, many years
ago. And he basically Art Bell had
said, Michael Crichton said that when the Internet, it was right
during the early Internet and everyone was predicting what the
Internet was going to be. And Mike and Terence Mckenna's
response to this, I'll say his response before I say what
Michael Crichton's was, is he thinks the Internet is going to
lead to the scattering of information everywhere to where
no one can pin you down, right? Because everyone's going to have
their own ideas. And so nobody's going to know
where the group of this people is and the group of it.
And it's going to be like, like everybody using their minds and
like a spiritual way to create, you know, all this stuff.
And Michael Crichton, the whole thing was, he says, Nope, People
will literally turn into like schools of fish on the Internet
and like, they will all consolidate into one thing.
And I, I think about that every time these types of things
happen is I'm like, wow, not to just toot his horn more than I
normally do, but I was like, that's, that's probably true.
And this is in the early Internet days, like like where
we really didn't know. And I'm like there it, it's
tough because like I, I just know.
And I and my mother in law's in town right now.
She's a 64 year old woman who has been voting Republican her
entire life. Is, does not have, have an
aesthetics account on Twitter. Roman aesthetics account doesn't
do any of that. Doesn't know any black Pilling,
red Pilling, doesn't know what at least I think if I get a
reply. If I get a reply saying it's
been 2 hours since you've eaten and you need to drink water then
from a non grouper account I'll know where that is.
But anyways, she, she said she, she, she got the alert.
She's here, we're, we're doing some stuff here.
And she, she, she got the alert. She's like, Oh my gosh, they
bombed like they, they dropped bombs on the Iran missile site.
She was, I hate that like that. And I don't, she's not like a
pacifist pacifist. Like I think she's like, OK,
when things have to happen, things have to happen.
She's like, I really didn't want to do that.
She said, I hate what Israel's doing in Gaza.
Christian woman by the way, too, not Muslims like nothing like
just just like this. And she and I was just thinking,
I'm like, that's funny because like people like spurgs would
like quote, tweet her Sparks who like converted to Republicanism
like five years ago, would like would coach meet her and be like
fucking Boyd, you know, and like all this shit, like just just
like RIP her to shreds. This is a woman who voted for
Ronald Reagan, like every like literally straight ticket
Republican her whole life, but would still still found a way to
go. Man, I don't like that.
So I'm like, this is a uniquely online behavior.
That's why I leaned to the Michael Crichton.
Yeah, McKenna was short or was right in the short term during
that golden age of Internet. And I do think I he, he might in
the long run, it might, I think, you know, I think we sometimes
lose sight of the forest of the trees with the Internet.
But at the same time, it's hard. It there is still the beauty
there. There is still I got I think I
know David Wolf says this David avocado wolf shout out.
He's like shut out. We were literally on our last
dying breath as humanity and then the Internet came and the
Internet saved us. And I'm like, that is
optimistic. And I'm like, I kind of agree.
You know, I think there's a lot of growing pains, but I mean,
crying. He he just knew about human
nature, do well. Well, Terence Mckenna's Terence
McKenna viewed that question as if, if ever, If the world was
filled with Terence McKenna, how would the Internet work?
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Michael Crichton's like, the world is simply not filled with
people like me. Yeah.
Therefore, you know, like. Yeah, Terence.
McKenna was like a Berkeley grad philosophist, like philosophy
student, like that's literally who he was in the 60s.
It was just. Me and my Bros, man yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And, and right, I think Crichton
was, you know, you're looking at a three-year window to like the
30 year maximalist window where he was just like, yeah, not
everyone's going to flock to, you know, the the popular take
still like even if they, they find this new uncharted land
where they can be themselves, like it does happen so.
In like to, to Mckenna's point, like I and I haven't read
McKenna in a very long time, but like, I do think, yeah, I think
of like, like the Internet or like Twitter, for example, as
like a tool that like if you use the tool right, then you can
like find your shit and you can find like, like your unique
perspective and you can kind of like enrich that.
Like you can kind of like water that garden with the things that
Twitter gives you. But it's just like it's, that
takes like a kind of conscious, deliberate effort.
You have to like seize it and really like think about how it's
impacting you. Because if you, if you let it
seize you, like what Prince said, dude, Prince said.
Like it's OK to get on the computer.
You just can't let the computer get on you.
You know you're getting. On the computer.
And not the other way around then like you can, it can be
enriching, I think in the way that McKenna said.
But it's like a lot of people just like, let the algorithm
just kind of like, like blow them over and then they just end
up being like whatever they feel expected would be, you know?
Yeah, I would kill. I would kill to have just his
printed out search history for like.
Yeah. For like like printed in like X
Philip K Dick exegesis form yeah just like I mean yeah, he would
have some crazy shit and be like damn dude, you were looking at
that shit like my. Prince is like, don't put my
songs on there though, don't fucking.
Yeah, Whatever you do, don't. Yeah, Yeah.
That's hilarious. Yeah.
I I, I don't know. I I just.
Yeah, but so before we pivot. I'm grateful for every.
I'm grateful for the last after 2020 to, you know, to not to
make it in purely electoral terms, but from 2020 to 2024,
like, what the fuck was that? Yeah, you know.
I still like where we're at. That's my thing.
Like I still like where we're at.
I'm just like, I'm trying to like, I don't want to be the guy
that's like, well, it could always be worse.
So I have to like this and I'm like, that's, that's, that's not
what that's not the the trade off right now.
It's like a little bit of like, that's not really the trade off
right now, Like, and and I'm not I'm not in any way danger in
danger of voting Democrat. So there's no like, right?
You know what I'm like give. Me some credit here, you know?
Yeah. That's all it is like I'm not in
a so anything I'm saying I'm not going like I we're going to talk
about this Democrat like what they're doing right now just in
a second, because it's it's just it's insane.
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candy.substack.com. What's this guy's name?
Fucking Zohan. Don't mess with Zohan.
Yeah, yeah. I don't know his name.
He's running for the Democratic. He's in the Democratic mayor
primary against Andrew Cuomo right now, which is just, it's
like, dude, it's like 20. Like so your choice is in New
York right now because they're going to get a Democrat mayor.
The choices in New York City right now are the guy who
crowded the fucking homes with intern basically just made
Auschwitz for old people during COVID.
And then or the guy who's like, I think we need 87 apartment
complexes in this beautiful forest and like, and he's like,
I also used to rap. Oh, yeah, you've never heard
about that dude. Oh, my.
Look, those are your choices in New York right now.
Like that. That's like it's a base city
I've heard. It's crazy that Cuomo's like,
yeah, imagine, imagine 2021. Someone telling you like Cuomo
actually will be the better choice dude.
I literally when they said Cuomo's right, I thought it was
the fucking CNN one. I thought they were going to
like run. I thought they were going to run
him like, and they were like, well, not his brother, but we'll
just literally it's a family thing.
Like we'll just do the other one like Eli Manning and shit.
Yeah, And that's why I thought. I was going to have it because
the New York Giants, dude, just. Quarterback What I what I find
funny is about this is, is like this guy is just like
unapologetically like a socialist communist guy, this
Zoran guy, but like, and it's totally it's not like in a Lenin
way, like he's, he's like totally like a rich like Dubai
Emirates kid, just like doing a passion project right now, you
know, like where it's like, I just, I fucking I want houses
everywhere, man. Like, you know, just just just
total vapid rich guy like Bret Easton Ellis character stuff
like, like, like you hear him like explaining his stuff like
Patrick Bateman, like you could just like, you could just like
picturing when you when he's talking.
And I realized like, I was like, wow, I didn't realize what the
demand was for another Bernie Sanders.
Like I really, I really, I, I didn't realize people really
want that again. And, and it's even better this
time because it's not a white like for them.
Yeah, it's Vincent Gallows, the brown Bernie dude they're
getting. They want this guy, like, really
bad. Fucking Nick Mullen I saw.
It pains me because I've always known he was like a leftist and
all that stuff and open time like whatever.
Very, very big fan back in the day and it's fine.
Just fucking don't do that. Like just please don't do that.
Like he's. He's the guy, he's out of those
three, he's the one that's not supposed to be doing that, you
know what I mean? Like he's the one that's
supposed to like kind of avoid that whole trap, you know?
And if whatever other guys want to do that, that's fine.
But, but with this, with this dude, it's like, it's always
scary when a guy or like, yeah, like usually like a rich guy or
whatever, or girl who clearly is like has some like hustle
mentality and, and a vision, but also has never worked a real job
in their life. It's like very scary, you know?
And you're, yeah. And it's 'cause he's clearly
like got some like visual aesthetic.
Have you? What about?
What about the What about your Mango Mussolini?
How many real jobs did he have? Oh man.
Anyways. Yeah, like that's.
A real That's a real one. I've heard that one.
That's a real 1. Yeah, it sounds like Kush, dude.
It sounds like Kush. Yeah, it.
Does, yeah. Sounds like I bought that at the
dispensary though. I bought some Mango Mussolini
fucking. It's a 75% hybrid.
Sativa, yeah, definitely Indica, yeah.
But yeah, anyways, no, this guy, yeah, you were saying the the
rich guy. The, the like what you said
about how people want another Bernie, like that's what I
thought here. I was like, cuz like, it seems
to me like he's kind of just a, like a Chapo tard kind of thing
or something like that. And I, and I just thought, I
thought that car was kind of out of gas.
Like I thought that we, I thought people saw that like the
Bernie thing didn't really work, you know, because it's like, you
voted for Bernie and then he stole a bunch of your donation
money and just like told you to vote for Kamala or Joe Biden.
Like the thing didn't work. You guys like, and I just, I'm
amazed that there's like still this is like something they just
want to try again. I thought it was kind of over,
you know what I mean? They're not creative people.
Is the thing, Yeah, Yeah. Well, creativity is a symptom of
capitalism. It's really you're not even
being creative. It's just, it's just your
reaction to the capitalist hellscape you live in too.
So that's why. Because like, there was a big
thing. There was a big thing, I don't
know New York very well. So but it just looked beautiful,
like it looked like a part that it was like this Elizabeth Gart
Saint Elizabeth Gart is beautiful like historic thing.
They asked Cuomo like would you build affordable housing there?
And he's like, no, like that's place rules.
Like what are you talking about? Like I fucking love that place.
I literally know and and then this guy goes to bulldoze it
like fucking ASAP because I that's always what I've always
hated the like roller coaster Tycoon leftist like Geocity,
like or not Geo. What's that?
What was that called? SIM cities or yeah, SIM cities,
SIM cities like, like the people who just like they're like, and
right here click, you were going to put this fucking massive coin
operated washing machine store for this, but they and they,
they just go it's easy. You just build a Blade Runner
city. It's easy.
It's fucking easy. Like that's, that's what you do.
And and I've always hated that, like because I was just like,
dude, that the quality of life sucks when you do that and it's
all meant to accommodate. Like it's all meant to
accommodate. Like, I'm sorry, not Americans.
They're not putting homeless people in those houses.
They're people might want that like in platitude form.
It's not that's not what's going to happen.
It's literally going to be immigrant stuff and that you
know to put say what I was talking about to the last even
about the Iran war possibility or anything that always leads to
more immigration by. The way, yeah.
That's the other thing. It's like that literally always
does. But not for one specific
country, just all the other ones.
Yeah. So I just mean that's the other
thing. That's my last point on that.
And I just have to says it's just basically like with New
York, they're like, no, no, no guys.
That's always their when you ask people for immigration, like
what's your plan? When you ask like a leftist,
they're like literally more houses, you fuck.
And they, they say it in this way where it's like you ask them
like, hey, like is like if you showed up to work naked and
you're like, do I have clothes on?
Like, you know, and you're just like, you're unironically like a
vagrant. Like that's how they respond to
you build more houses. You you, you give them free
things like you do that. That's what you are you are you
OK? Like they do that shit and and
you're just like no, are you OK? This sucks, nobody.
Like this? And and that's why they're
really territorial about online spaces because it's the only
place that shit flies. Like if you say that to people a
lot of times like out, like I will say like if you said that
to like this like person, they go, yeah, that sounds horrible,
dude. That's a horrible idea.
Like I would hate that. And that's why online, like it's
I, I don't like those communities, they eventually
like all look the same at that point, those online communities
where you just cannot say otherwise, like you, you can't
like your final plan needs to just be housing upon housing on
housing. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's the same, Yeah. Yeah, you can't say that to
these people. These people need it's I'm just,
I'm not an expansion guy. I think that's what it is.
I'm like, I think we're good. You know, I look around and I'm
like, I think we're pretty good dude.
And I understand we will expand, but like these people just want
like they want to just absolutely chase out all of Wall
Street, right? Chase out all of that, which I
OK, I was 22 once. I know, I know, I know.
I guys, I've done that. You know, it's like, I get that
they want to leave. Basically take New York and say
New York is this very rich city. It's a like for I guess I mean
that literally and figuratively. It's got a lot of money.
It's big rich history and everything.
The money comes from the people you hate.
I'm just letting you know that like in New York, so the thing
you say you have money to pay for, they're not going to pay
for it. They're going to go to.
I saw somebody, I forget who it was, somebody who was like, it's
going to be if I was the mayor of I think it was Pine Barrens,
the Pine Barren account. That guy's really funny.
He said. He said, I if I was the mayor of
Miami or like even DeSantis or something, I'd be the top donor
to Zoron so I could just get all the Wall Street people to come
to Florida. Dude.
Yeah, yeah. It was like he's like, he's
like, it's, it's literally going to it would if that guy got his
way. The Wall Street people aren't
going to be like, oh, guess we're doing socialism now.
You know, I want to I kind of weird.
Yeah, yeah. Part of me is because, like, I
don't really, I'm not connected to New York and I don't, you
know, I've been there a handful of times in my life.
It's gay. I mean, it's gay, let's be real.
It's yeah. And I, well, I'm just, I kind of
want to see what happens if he's I.
Literally want to see. But I do, but I do.
And I do have a lot of respect for like Anna Kay and those
guys. And you know, and I do, I do
love seeing how they are just completely like, this guy's a
fucking idiot. Like they're, you know, they're
just not letting it go, you know, And I, I, they come props
to them for that. But I mean, don't you just want
to see a little bit what it would be like, I think?
I think we will. I think he's going to win.
What's the Poly markets? You know that crazy where you
can bet on like the most random shit that's.
That's flipped. That's well, he's going against
the guy who got me tooed. So even Democrats, I, I mean,
they, I, I people say otherwise because there was that like Tara
Reid, Joe Biden thing a long time.
Ago, but like, yeah. So like when push comes to
shove, they might. But if there's like a left like
a AOC tier Pearson that didn't get me tooed, you know, or
something like that, they might like he might get some of the
like pig, you know, votes like he might get that.
Art Ho wife like the Art Hoes might like him.
You know that would. Be man yeah, they're real and it
was it was just like I just didn't realize and again, like a
lot of like a lot of people the leftist ISIS, they are like the
parapolitical kind that like I don't know how they feel about
that. Maybe they like them, maybe they
don't, but like that just like the died and like the real,
like, just like leftist people that you see on the Internet and
like, and just out there. And yeah, I see them in like big
cities too, where they just, they're, they're just like,
yeah. So like I see people like, you
know, camp canvassing form. They have that same crazy
excitement for him. And I was like, oh, and I don't
cuz I don't like, I live in California and it's always a
common thing like nuke California.
I'm like, hey, all right, I live here.
It's kind of cool. You should come out.
It's pretty fun. But but with New York, I am
like, it would be kind of funny. It would be kind of funny if you
guys, we did, we did have a Chapo guy in San Francisco.
He was a Chapo guy. I think he was, I think he was a
guest on their show once before it even happened.
Like his name was Chesa Boudin. And he was just, he was just
straight up. I don't live in San Francisco,
but I followed it very well. It was the guy was just like,
just steal, dude. Fuck Walgreens.
Like, basically, yeah. He was like, dude, toothpaste,
everyone. Toothpaste should be free.
So and so should. So should everything at
Walgreens like. Zoron is like, I saw it because,
you know, you guys know that show where, like, some guy on,
like, the New York subway, like, interviews people.
Yeah. Oh, with the with the car, Yeah,
I before you go on, I was the other.
There was another thing that showed up in mass on my timeline
was Italian disco, like dirtbag left looking guys that were like
hipster guys doing Italian disco DJ ING.
Oh, it'll it'll come to yours. Watch.
And I I thought that's what that was.
I thought they were going to start passing the the cards and
interviewing. I'm pretty sure it was really
weird. I was like, I don't this is the
odd. Anyways, you were saying that
that show he went, he went on that show.
Yeah, and, and like I watched I think like half of it or
whatever, but like, so there was and it's interesting to see like
how he's kind of playing stuff careful because he's not just
saying like, go ahead and steal from Walgreens because they they
asked him about like the whole defund the police thing.
Like, and he was trying to pitch these like, oh, I, I'm not some
crazy revolutionary like this. I just want in addition to the
police force, I want there to also be mental health experts
that deal with ongoing criminal situations.
And I was like, yeah, I think I kind of know what this is code
for. And I think you're still
probably bad shit crazy. But it's like, but now it's like
he feels like he needs to kind of play like he's hey, I'm I'm
pretty normal. I'm just like a crazy or
nothing. And but yeah, it's it's weird
how like they they kind of but yeah, during the Chesapeakeen
era, like leftists were just like feeling themselves so much.
And they're like, yeah just steal shit bro Fuck it.
Yeah, yeah. Well, at the end of the day,
it's at the end of the day, I think there's an accelerationist
element to them. Like like, like where it's like
they obviously see that it's not good to have like blown out like
big box stores and like, just like broken windows everywhere
crying. They they obviously know like
push it to show like that's not good.
But they're like, well, that was always meant to happen.
We're speeding it up. That's effectively what happens
when you run a country the way that we do that that's going to
happen. So they view that as maybe this
is the guy that can bring them to that and then maybe bring
them out of it, you know, So like I, I think that they,
there's, that's kind of the way they, they view this.
So like, well, it was headed this way anyways.
Let's just skip the, the 25 years or for 30 years of it.
And and you know, this is also something I've been saying since
like the 60s and stuff too. So, you know, you know, it keeps
getting pushed back. But I think a lot of people, I,
I think it's, you know, New York, if, if he does win in New
York, it'll New York will turn like hard right wing like after
like like it's, it is, it's actually acceleration is from
the other end is what they never fail to realize.
And like, it's always like, it's always like, wow.
Yeah. Never again.
Yeah. This is horrible.
Yeah. It's like when right after Trump
won and like people were like, like libs were like doubling and
tripling down and like trans stuff.
And like as a right wing guy, I was like, yeah, keep it up
dudes. You know, just like go ahead and
keep doing that. Like it just sends people over
to our side and have it. Yeah.
Like they end up being acceleration.
Like they think that like, yeah, if we break into Windows then
that'll something, something will happen.
And then it'll be like full communism right after that.
But it's like no actually just makes it really hate your guys
guts which works for me. It's a Rage Against the Machine
guitar riff. That's all it is.
It's all everything's have Allen wrench on the guitar strings.
That's like the, all that they want to have happen.
And then afterwards, well, it was always meant to happen.
So I was just saying and, and, and, and it's just, I don't
know. I, I, it's kind of, I am like
laughing a little bit at it. Like I, I, because I know it's,
it's not going to lead to like 10 other cities doing the same
thing, right? Like it's not because because at
the end of the day, there's just like people these places
property values pretty high there and people aren't going to
like the industry itself is not going, which I'm actually a
little bit OK with sometimes where I'm kind of like, oh,
actually I'd like for this country to not be so like dense,
like city dense and like stuff to be spread around.
Now I don't trust, you know, him to do that.
So that's completely different thing.
But these people that are paying, you know, coming out,
especially it happens in the Bay, San Francisco, it ended
quick, man. I mean, they're still not, it's
still not great. Like, but I went back and it was
as opposed to like four or five years ago when it was really,
really, really bad. I went back and you can see
there was a lot of people that moved out here for doing like
tech and stuff. And they're like, dude, I did
not come out here to live with like human shit piled on the
streets and and like needle scattered everywhere And, and,
and literally like I said, going to a store where nothing is
there because it all got stolen. Like, and that was happening.
Like it was like people there at the end of the day there is like
they're the mat, the mat. They, they call it mask off.
Like, right. All the people he went mask off
like and said he was, I'm just actually neoliberal or
something. But at the end of the day, a lot
of people do go mask off. Like, yeah, actually I hate
crime. Like actually it sucks really
bad. And and again, the only place
that doesn't play is in their circle.
The funniest thing was California voting almost as far
unanimously as you'd get, like 75% statewide, including all the
liberal places to recriminalize stealing shit under $900 or
something where they're like, you know, and they're like,
yeah, it's over, it's over. And the San Francisco thing is
especially egregious because as far as big cities go, and San
Francisco is not a huge city, but, you know, it's not.
Population. Population wise, it is, yes.
Yeah. And it's, but it's as far as
cities go, it's a beautiful city compared to, I don't know, like
Houston or Pittsburgh or whatever.
And like no offense to. Kelby, did you hear that?
Yeah, sorry, Kelby. Yeah.
But, you know, but it's like, it's like idyllic, right?
It's like the shining city on the hill.
It's like the whole whatever that it's like that kind of
thing. And.
Yeah, Yeah. And the fact that it just
decayed so rapidly is sad. I was just there.
I was just there last week and I loved it.
I loved all of it. I was just like, wow, this is
really cool. I would hate to ruin this thing,
you know, like I would. I would hate for this to like be
bad and like, you know, get like Escape from New York level like,
like horrible, which in certain you go down like literally you
take one turn, you're like, whoa, never mind.
Yeah, I'll take the other street.
What we learn is that like it's, it's easier to to destroy
something than to build it up. You know what I mean?
It's like it's, it takes a lot of blood, sweat and tears to
create like a functioning societal system.
But like, dude, it takes like a year of yeah, letting the steal
shit to like see like a real plummeted overall quality, you
know? Right.
I mean, it's like, you know, it's tantrums are easy and
satisfying in the short term. You know, like it's really easy
to throw a tantrum. One of the first things you do
when electronics don't work is you slap them, you know, like
it's, it's, it's just this kind of like, yeah, I mean, that's,
that's kind of, but after a while, it's kind of like you,
not when you're a lot of people realize like not everyone's as
radical as you. A lot of times it's like a
really tough thing to come to a lot of times like, and I think
it's, and even if I'm, I'm saying that tongue in cheek,
like radical, I don't even think a lot of the stuff these people
believe in is like radical. I think it's just platitudinal
really. But anyways, like I from a
health perspective, like a lot of people like what we talk
about, most of the time the person you're talking to is kind
of just dipping their toe into like, oh, oh, we could do
something a little different here.
And like actually, and then you start like then you scare them
away, right? And so like when you, when
someone goes like, God, it is expensive living out here and
they'll be like, actually, we should add so many more houses
and give away houses for free. And everyone just goes free for
like me, I have a job and it's like, it is tough making rent.
They're like, no, no, no, you're actually we're going to like tax
you a little bit more. If that's cool.
Like, see, you know, these other people need those houses.
And it's like, oh, I'm like barely getting by.
Like capital isn't too. I know it reminds me of the two
things like in the New York City thing where the people are still
fresh off the like giving migrants 5 star hotel treatment
and debit cards and like PlayStation twos and which
absolutely happened. You know, right?
Yeah, and it's like, you know, maybe not all of them, I'm
saying, but for sure some of them, you know.
Dude, there must have been a Prius program.
All I'm saying is I think there was a Prius in your guys's
cities. Have you seen just like Mad Max,
like beat up Priuses driven by people that you don't think
we're here for very long? I I don't know what.
Maybe it's a California correspond, dude.
Yeah, yeah, I. And then they're always.
Just circling neighborhoods for DoorDash and you're just like,
yeah, when did this happen? Like.
It was just, it was just like video games, like the fucking
Call of Duty that with the helicopter that brings you shit,
Like that's what it felt like. Yeah, but then there's the other
thing. And I did see this post and this
makes kind of everyone mad on all sides because they have
their own take on the healthcare thing.
But someone's like, look at the look at our empty.
It was like an emergency room and it was completely empty
because of the protests and the ICE raids and everything going
on in like in LA. And they're like, look at this.
This is Trump's mayor. It's like, oh, like a non
crowded emergency room. Like, yeah, it's like kind of
because, you know, the thought being that, you know, people,
people will use the emergency room as like a bridge healthcare
system. You know, I don't like the ice
has a jacket on like a doctor's jacket in there.
And they're like, oh, what? Yeah.
And Hertz? Quando.
And then yeah. And then yeah.
Yeah, no, but the whole like. Yeah, great.
Good episode. Where did everyone go?
It's just like empty. Yeah, but the whole no, but the
whole the idea. And I do, I do kind of.
I'm not like a I'm not like a full on like Fox News guy on
this on like on healthcare. I don't know where I stand on
it, you know, I don't like, it's tough.
I don't like, but I do know that you cannot give some people free
emergency room healthcare and just clog the system up and then
make other people pay $5000 a month for a family of four and
expect that to be fair or sane or whatever.
You get punished to just be in to just having like a job and
trying to get healthcare and stuff clearly doesn't work, you
know, and I'm someone that's like so outside of that system,
you know, it's just very. Yeah, but as a proud
representative of the gamer community, I think it's stolen
value to to give just anyone a PlayStation Two, man, that
shit's sacred to my people, bro. Yeah, you can't.
Yeah. It's just a crazy fucking like,
like, how do you guys figure this is sustainable?
You know what I mean? Like we can't.
Yeah, haven't got that far, but no.
Yeah, I've gotten links for free PS fives all the time, however.
I did not receive. Them but yeah yeah, free Ray
bans PS-5 sounds like. Dude.
I know they're like, oh wait, he's white.
No, it's a scout. Scam him.
Yeah, I know. Get all his information.
But yeah, no, I, I, I, you know, I, I just think it's really
funny. The, the just look at I, I
don't, I'm not filled with dread.
It's just like, I'm like, oh man, like after everything
that's happened in the last four years of just COVID, you know,
there, there was no like re examining of that just going
like, damn, were we were we like, were we tripping or
something? And the, the, that's why, like
I, I know people like the, the, the kind of enlightened take
when you're away from this is like, well, leftists and
liberals are the same. They are, but they aren't.
And, and like, I, I agree that they kind of all kind of end up
in the same place when you're in a general electorate election.
Like I absolutely agree with that.
However, they operate completely differently in, in in some ways,
whereas actually liberals are very useful for leftist people
because if they're kind of pet candidate doesn't win, we can
blame, blame right wing and neoliberals at the same time,
you know, And so it's like there's this there's this idea
of like, yeah, I, I think there might be a kind of a like a, if
this guy does win, there might be kind of like a, oh shit, we
got to like do shit now, you know, kind of situation.
Like they're kind of expected for like the what's the, what's
that? The what's the one in Iowa that
like Bernie Sanders got ruined shadow app or something like
expecting some weird like thing to happen because it does like
it does. There is like an element and I,
I can like where you kind of expect to be stopped.
Like it's like something with RFK, which I kind of want to end
with here. Like this whole thing with RFK,
like he got like in and I was like really happy and I was
like, wait, does this mean like it's going to suck because he
got in, you know, like I'm used to someone sabotaging it, you
know, because then when you sabotage, you go, well, it would
have worked, you know, because that's why they sabotaged it.
So I I am, I am interested for this guy to win and then be
like, OK, now what? New York City is yours literally
may maybe the most important mayoral city like in terms of
like politically. I mean, like it is a stepping
stone. You could go straight up like, I
mean, you know, you can use it to go anywhere after that.
And you're talking about a guy like I dude, I listened to his
music and it sounded like straight up like Dubai
prostitute shit porn. Music.
Like it was crazy. Like it was, it straight up
sounded like one of those things where you're like like an AI
video of a guy snowboarding and like, that's like playing very
weird. Weird.
Yeah, it was, it was very strange.
But this RFK thing's is interesting.
I wanted to, to end with this because that one's kind of like
the most disappointing one to me.
Because for anyone who doesn't know, I, I think Sai can
probably explain this better than me.
He was kind of like endorsing this biotech stuff, which was,
was a warning about, for a lot of people about him is that he
was not anti like biotech and stuff.
Can you can you explain why maybe that's not the best thing
in the world? Yeah, well, he he first of all,
I'd say he he's been, you know, I followed him for decades at
this point and I do like him and I do think it is good that he is
in there, but I am disappointed. It's he, he for all intents and
purposes, he built the, this lat little chunk of his career that
basically got him in there by criticizing the mRNA platform
through COVID, you know, and like literally calling those
shots cancer causing and, you know, evil and, you know, and
calling for their removal from the market, which made him a
star throughout COVID, you know, through with his Fauci book and
everything. And, and he, he calls Fauci A
bioweapons guy, literally like a biotech weapons guy.
You know, that's his book. You know, that was like #1 on
Amazon despite censorship and everything.
And and then he comes out with this whole thing like he's like,
we need to, he did like MA BA make American biotech accelerate
MABA, you know, and it's like we got to stop.
And I'm like in iterations. That we do.
Like, it's an epidemic. I heard Miga the other day.
I was like, come on. Yeah, Like, just stop.
What's Miga? Israel.
Yeah. Or Iran?
Both. It means both.
No, I'm not joking. Yeah, I'm not joking.
Yeah, I saw the Star Wars meme. Yeah, yeah.
Where? It was like Iran, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but yeah.
So it's like, you know, and biotech, my, my take on biotech
is it's first of all, I think it's the extremely overrated in
every aspect that it's applied to human health crop genetics,
you know, you know, like GM OS, that kind of stuff and it costs.
So the whole platform of genetics, the whole study of
that field is so it hasn't produced, has met many results
as the money that's flown into flowed into it basically, you
know, and it's basically what we've learned from studying
genetics is that we don't know a lot.
And this is way more complex than we ever realized.
And we can't just tweet, tinker 1 little thing and expect to get
it out. It's more complex than the
craziest computer code we have. I wonder if there was a really
good 6 foot 9 author that said that a long time ago too.
Exactly. Yeah, exactly.
And that message kind of got whitewashed a little bit and.
Yeah, yeah, he was. He was?
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
He's just being silly.
Yeah. And so, so anyway, my take on it
is that so many governments and rich, rich people, you know,
like in private investors and you know, startups and
everything, they're so invested in this thing working mRNA, all
this stuff. So everyone, it's just a margin
call and everyone is underwater on investments, on these biotech
investments. And that's why that's why you
need a guy like RFK to go, we need biotech.
And you know, and it's like, obviously the base doesn't want
it with no human health isn't created through more
biotechnology. And I'm weirdly enough, I'm
actually on the long scale time frame.
I'm actually kind of, I'm kind of long on it.
Like I do think we will find some interesting stuff in the
next 50 to 100 years with biotech.
But largely it's a Ponzi scheme. And like, like Moderna is like a
shell game. You know, I've, you know, it's
literally like a Ponzi scheme of investment.
And so anyway, it's it is disappointing and it's just kind
of like a, you know, like it is a little bit of a black belt.
Like what? We can't really affect it on
that top level top down. We can't do it.
We can't. We're.
Pharma, pharma and military are pretty tough, man.
Like like it's kind of one in the same.
I mean, you can find connections between the two, but it's just
like those are the ones where it's like you go against that
and it's like, hey, dude, I got 40 fucking terabytes of some
really cool images of young people I could put on your
computer at any moment, you know, like, yeah, just just a
thought. Yeah.
Do your thing, dude. Maha.
Yeah, Maha. Yeah, fucking yeah.
Do that. Yeah, for sure.
Yeah. Don't.
Yeah, no, you're fine. Whatever you want, dude.
But the anyway, like you can definitely, yeah, you know, I
that's that's the problem with it, with it all is like the
people once you get hip to like a lot of that stuff, like the
real like deep state stuff is which I I tend to think is true
more than it isn't. And and but you're kind of like,
what do I do? Yeah, like, like that's the
problem. And you ask people and they go,
well, it's not that simple. And then and then it just, they
never, they end up just repeating all the connections of
people that are here and there and you're like, OK, I got that.
That's scary. What do we do?
And they they don't know and they go, you need to reject the
two party system. I go, all right, then what?
Because then Kamala Harris wins and then what?
Like I, I just, I like that's the I, I don't know that, but
that part's like really tough. But it is when you get your guy
in there, or at least the your best chance at it.
And I think RFK, you know, firing the vaccine board people
was really good. I think, I think a lot of that
was fine. I mean, we have yet to see well
who get who is the replacement, of course.
And that's why a lot of this stuff, you know, I think,
frankly, I think a lot of the geopolitical stuff we were
talking about is done at the hands of intelligence agencies
or information from intelligence agencies.
Mind you, even though they Trump has shaken up some stuff like
Cash Patel and you know, people like that and put these people
in, I still tend to think that the upper intelligence people,
the the stuff, I have a feeling they're all still there.
Those are the people that tried to coop him basically, you know,
like at some point. So the information that we're
being fed, or at least some of our officials are being fed a
lot of times, like probably isn't good.
And I hope RFK is not listening to those same people, you know,
in the same way. And, you know, that's this is my
problem is like the the best part about RFK was like, he was
kind of just like because I, I, you and Trump said this about
when he employed him, is he Bobby assumed Bobby, Bobby said
to me that this wasn't really going to cost that much to do
what we do. He's like, yeah, some of the
farming stuff will for long term.
He's like, but over time, it's really just scaling back a lot
of things that we were doing. And I think Trump, again, I, I
hate to say this, but I think Trump has a vested interest in
autism because I don't know, you've seen his kid.
I, I, I just, I don't know, I, I'm not trying to, I'm not
trying to, you know, diagnose anybody.
But he started tweeting that when like Baron was a little
kid, the many such cases thing. So I just, I don't know, I just,
you know, he's high functioning clearly, but it's just, it's
just like, you wonder if like he was just like they told me to
give him this many shots and he started talking different, you
know, or like, like, that's weird, you know.
So I, you know, I guess I, I say all that to, to say this, that
it is it there the people who talk about the invisible hand
and all of these things, like they are right to a degree, like
they are right to a degree. And then these are good examples
of that. But at the end of the day, like
when I want to I, you know, conversely, you look at like
the, the Trevor project stuff. I'm like that I see is like real
when you take like you say this Trevor Project for anybody who
doesn't know people freaked out for like a day about like the I
think it was the LGBT fucking suicide hotline or something.
I don't like that, but it's funded by the Trevor Project or
or whatever. And the Trevor Project is
literally evil. I'm sorry, Like it's there's not
there is. No.
Can you, can you break that down a little bit?
I just found out about this. Well, yes, now the actual
company that fund apparently, and I've heard this from many
people that the the Trevor Project and it's basically just
like this LGBTQ like I think nonprofit or something.
So yeah, off the bat you already kind of know like it's bullshit,
but but anyways, and it's all about like we are here.
They are constantly fighting for trans children, which, you know,
I'm opposed to like kind of that stuff at any age to a degree at
least at least appeasing it, you know, and aiding it along.
Like, I don't care what you dress, but like, I'm not like
we're not. That's something you're doing at
party. You don't have to apply you.
Go to party city by yourself and figure it out.
Like and, and so like to me, like that's on you, whatever,
Like, but the the The thing is to me was with the kids.
I mean, I don't understand how you can support that for
children at all. Like whatsoever.
There's literally no argument to be made where you support that.
Now the Trevor Project is gets funding from this company that
literally makes puberty blockers.
Wow, so you have I again, I'm I'm I'm not getting the the name
of it right now. This is.
Like not this is kind of a newer thing like the last couple years
I assume. Yeah, I, I, I'm pretty sure the
Trevor Project was like a like in the 20 tens.
If I'm not, I there are people like Trevor Noah Project.
Yeah. I mean, yeah, he was patient
zero. Yeah.
But yeah, we named it after our best, best one.
He's South African king. But yeah, the the anyways, he
that stuff. So you're that company and you
and to if you're a leftist again, like that's probably like
bad when like big Pharma's funding something.
But we know that that's that, that doesn't matter.
The dark money from that literally doesn't matter.
It's actually good, actually, Yeah, and and that stuff doesn't
matter. But they'll never, ever go
against that or even in any degree, like just go like if the
Trevor Project gets they, I guess they didn't get their
federal funding, right? Like they, they can.
And they have a suicide hotline. Do people call that?
I, I, I like the like, what I mean is like, I'm gay and I'm
dying. You know what I'm saying?
I'm gay and I want to kill myself.
Not just I want to kill myself, but like, I'm gay and I want to
kill myself. Like like, or I'm trans and I
want to kill myself. Like like if you're killing
yourself, it's kind of like I'll just call the regular one,
right? I'm not trying to, I'm not
trying to be rude. Like I just, I feel I was like
there's a separate 1 you. Called the you called the
straight to a hotline. Show me, show me a video of like
your phone lines and like like of like the phone's buzzing.
We should do like a side by side dude.
We should do there's. Probably quite a few now that I
think about it. But there is a number that it's
bad but like. That's like YouTube content.
We called both lines and compared the responses to you.
Know. Yeah, like, like, you know,
there, there should definitely be like, yeah, exactly.
YouTube videos, maybe it is. I just, I like that stuff.
Like when that happens, people chalk that up to like culture
war stuff. And I said, well, that's to me
is something you can win. That's that's a national, that's
a National Defense To me, that's National Defense in a way.
Like where it's like that's fake, that's bad, that's
hurting, literally hurting kids because, well, sorry, let's be
real. If that suicide hotline is
popping, it's because of people who took fucking puberty
blockers and nobody. And then they went out in the
real world and somebody noticed their Adam's apple.
Like literally that's like, that's why they're calling the
hotline. Yeah, it's crazy, because I do
think that that stuff really seems to be tanking lately, that
whole. Project.
And like, they closed the and it seems to be like obviously rife
with scientific fraud and other things and all that.
And yeah. And I honestly like a couple
maybe last year or the year before, I heard Brett
Weinstein's wife Heather on their podcast talk about
something that like, honestly, I've never even heard like
really mentioned in plain conversation before.
And it was, it just got me thinking she's like, you know,
because everyone thinks the whole liberal idea is like, if
we don't affirm gender, that's what's causing the suicides and
the mental health. He's like, he's like, what?
She's like, what if it's not a correlation causation?
What if it's flipped? And it's like, what if we need,
what if these people need help and we're not helping?
Like, what if we could like prevent this?
And he and she's, she's like, I know that's sacrilege.
That's like, you cannot say that, but it's like maybe
someday someone will ask that fucking question and it'll be,
you know, And it was very interesting.
And I thought that was kind of brave.
Yeah. You get sold.
You get sold an ideology, then they go, you can do this and and
and it's illegal for someone to not refer to you as such, right?
Like, and then they go, oh, that sounds great.
And you hear that on Reddit or whatever.
And like you're just like, that's awesome about the, you
know, let's let's get this going.
And then you realize, like, even if somebody's being like mean or
anything, they're just like, kind of like, OK, let's still
that's, that's not, it just doesn't work.
You like you've, you kind of have mortgaged your entire
happiness based on public perception, right?
Which can, can absolutely, which can, can, can absolutely drive
you to suicide. Like like with, with 100% like,
like you will absolutely like, because that's the final
frontier. I'm sorry you're not believing
in God at that point. There's not a lot of like, like
there's a lot of things you've taken like this is, it is a form
of nihilism, like in a sense where you're just like, this is
all there is. There's only what I project out
to the world is musically, you know, that that is that is all
there is about me, you know, and I get it when that when you find
out, I mean, that's like the end of Prometheus, right?
Like looking this happening to you at that moment, like like,
you know, like, you know, like go back this, go back.
No. And like, yeah, yeah, you guys
aren't like. I know you guys aren't like
necessarily like huge, like Yarvin guys, but like,
something. Tell me about him.
Yeah, something says like it's something that I've like that
has stuck with me that he said. Because like I said, to your
point about how like, you know, what exactly is causing this
like mental anguish, like Yarby will say, you know, the libs are
our people and they need our help, you know?
And it's like, to me, to me, it's like, yeah, like, I mean, a
lot of, there's a lot of libs in my family.
There's a lot of libs in like my community and shit like that.
And it's like, I, I can see, like, I can see like a lot of
trans people being people who like struggle with some like
very real shit. Maybe we know what it is.
We don't. But like, they're not getting
the help that they need. And something like the Trevor
Project, like you're saying, is like giving them the exact
opposite of like the kind of like reality that they they
need, you know, to, to like start like pivoting back into
like a healthier worldview. You know, it's, it's sad, man.
Unironically, they should be, they should be reading like
psyops books. Yeah, yeah.
Like literally like that's all you can do.
Like I'll put you this way. Like there might be somebody
listening. And I genuinely like I make my
jokes and everything. Like I genuinely when I see like
that stuff happening, I I get sad like.
I'm like I'm. Really sad that you're doing
that and people go, what do you give a shit?
I'm like, you need me to give a shit, first of all, like say
like, like you, I absolutely my participation in this is 100%.
You need that? Yeah, like, no, no.
Oh, like the whole me not caring doesn't really.
If I don't care, then I don't think about you at all.
And I don't, I'll refer to you however I want because I don't
care, you know? So it's like you need me to
care. And my thing is I'm like, I'm
telling these people like this is the complete opposite of like
what life is in my opinion. Like and, and and like it truly
gives, like it takes away all meaning of life.
It's hyper, hyper image based thing, which that's already bad
enough. You already like have people
doing physiognomy checks and like all the time on normal guys
and shit. Like you already like have that.
So everybody's already got that a little bit.
So it's kind of like this is bad, like this is legit bad.
People could say like, oh, that's like like Hitler level to
defund this thing. And it's like, no, the biggest
thing is that when someone builds like something really
stupid that you ask them not to do, like, hey, don't, don't do
that. And they're like, well, I'm just
going to surround you with it and everywhere.
And then you take it down. Like why did you take it down?
Yeah. Like, hey, what's going on?
I mean, that's their case with everything.
I mean, immigration, it's like, if I bring you this many people
deal with it, right? The only solution is this.
And he's like, well, what if I just like didn't?
What if we just we just like sent them back?
How dare you, you know, So that's that's.
Everything. Yeah, they make a giant mess and
then say cleaning it up is like the most evil thing you could
possibly do, right? Yeah, it's just.
Every single time. But yeah, dude, it's like, you
know, I get that a lot of times, like, you know, you want to be
edgy and like make jokes on the Internet and people like kind of
kind of like talk shit on like the trans thing.
But it's like, dude, at the end of the day, it is ultimately
like incredibly tragic, you know?
And it's like when people say like, protect trans kids, it's
like, yeah, dude, I want to. Yeah, I'm trying to try myself.
That's what I'm that's what I'm talking you, bro.
I totally agree. Yeah, exactly.
Like, it's like you did that. Like, I just cannot.
And like the idea that, like, puberty is like this fucking
oppressor. Yeah.
You know what I mean? Like, dude, like, Can you
imagine that? Like just.
I mean, it does. It is an odd time in your life.
Like, like, it's very weird. Like, like it is very odd.
I mean, obviously for women it's probably even more crazy, but
like, for like, it's a very odd thing.
So like, you're also very susceptible to a lot of weird
stuff at that time. So for someone to go like, found
the problem, armpit hair turns out like, yeah, I found the
problem, That's the problem. And, and, and this thing happens
and you, you go like, well, we've solved it there.
And it's like, but again, my participation in it is
essential, right? So like, if I do say, well,
yeah, still this, you're still that, you're still this.
And that's like, Oh my gosh. And like, where, where does it
stop? Where does it stop?
And it's like it's I just to me and I and Trump literally came
out and did like the best thing, one of the best things he said
so far. And he's just like, come on.
He just said, I think he literally formally spoke, spoke
out against like trans. He's like, that's not real.
Like he just like said that. And people said like that's
enough, like really that's enough to like cause a, a, like
a, a complete oil spill. Like, you know what I mean?
Like just like an oil tanker of disaster for him to just go,
yeah, it's not what, no, are you kidding me?
But like and and conversely for me to view that as
revolutionary. Yeah, totally.
Like you did it. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Whoa.
Like, you know, again, it's like, but it is so like because
you had Kamala Harris, who's like completely opposite Joe
Biden, literally I, I don't know, he probably doesn't know
what it is. But either way, support it, you
know, read what's in front of you.
And then that part to me is like somebody, that part to me is the
the best. Like when that when, when Trump
gets focused on that and just goes boom.
Actually, this is my stance. There's no qualifiers to it.
Sorry. Not on our dime.
We're not firing people for not participating in it.
No. You know, like, and that's.
And at the end of the day, the problem corrects itself.
And I don't want people to off themselves.
I don't. Yeah, exactly.
I really want people to look at it and go, oh, yeah, that was a
bad idea. Yep.
And it's like, man, it's like you take, because you know,
something like mental health issues are real, man.
And like, like, I, I think a lot of the discourse around mental
health is like totally fucked. But it's not, it's not like, you
know, emotional anguish isn't a real thing that people need help
with, you know, And it's like I've, I've spoken with like,
like school counselors and shit who are super woke, who like
they see some kid who's like experiencing the difficulties of
being a kid because being kids fucking hard, man.
You know, it is for everybody, right?
And, and it's like they see that and then like the I feel like
what happens is like whatever the most popular like diagnosis
of the day is gets like we just look at any kid that's
struggling and say, oh, they must have this thing right.
The. And and like the.
Trans, like gender identity became like the the kind of
flavor of the day. And so it's like there's some
kid crying in front of you and you've been told that like, oh,
this kid must have like gender dysphoria or whatever.
And so we just kind of default to that.
But really. Yeah.
Like, dude. Yeah.
Glenn I hadn't even thought of that part of it that like you,
you put yourself in a position where yourself image is
completely reliant on other people and that's just already
incredibly dangerous like from any perspective in any anyway.
Any form, any form when that happens, like when, when your
absolute livelihood is because that person view me as what I
think I am right now, like I'm sorry, like it's just that of
course it's going to end that way.
Like it's, it's it's I'm that's why like you can't.
And to tell somebody that I think is some of the best advice
ever, but also you people would call you a straight up Nazi for
saying that. Right.
It's like you, you put these these kids, these vulnerable
people in a position where they're like guaranteed to
maximize like, like self esteem issues and emotional like lack
of emotional regulation and shit like that.
It's just like, because, yeah, dude, like, you know, like as a
musician, I've learned this, that like, man, you got to, you
got to love the shit that you play and you kind of have to not
care that much about how it's going to hit other people.
I like it when I play a song and people are into it.
That's great. But it's like, I have to, I have
to kind of play it because I think it's tight, you know what
I mean? And like, and any, any like
version of anything you might do in life, I think that kind of
applies. Like you got to just like
believe in your shit and learn when to like, I have like 4 or
five people who like, if they think I'm a good musician, then
I trust them, you know what I mean?
But it's like if everyone else states that I don't.
You have a fuck. And it's like, yeah, you have
to, you have to be able to like shore up your own emotional
stability. And, and we're like almost
deliberately putting people in a position where they're like
outsourcing all of that, which is, yeah, just like the worst
possible. Method is Oh my gosh, dude.
And, and just the overall obsession with self-image
regardless, like that's why I'm like, OK, I get it.
Aesthetics, I understand they're kind of important, but like men
overanalyzing their jaw like all of this stuff, like all of this
stuff, I'm like, this is all transgenderism.
I'm, I hope you guys know this. Like you're doing some sort of
dysphoria and as a guy, you have a hack.
You like really don't have to care a lot of times.
Like, like, like, I mean, yeah, take care of yourself, do this
and that. But like, if you have like a
little extra weight on you, it's not a deal.
But like take advantage of your privilege, by the way, is what
I'm saying. Like 5 alarm fire, like when a
woman has a heavy meal once you know, And so it's like you don't
have that because like I, dude, I, this is completely different,
but I see these things and it's everywhere.
It's not just our Internet sphere, It's everywhere.
It's people like there's like young men that like I, I don't
know if it's manosphere stuff, but like they'll see a picture
of like, are they the hottest chicks in the world?
But they're like, kind of like, you know, fine, I guess, like,
and they're like that one needs to lose weight.
That one needs to and I'm always like, wait, are you really
passing that up as a single man? I was like, I was like, like,
hey, like between you and me, like are you, are you like
you're passing that up because trust me, like at some point
you're not going to be able to have that.
So like don't like like as of like take that down a few times.
Like you can't tell me you travel the world like a fucking
secret agent, like fucking girls all the time.
And you're like, that one has five extra pounds.
Nah, dude. When you fuck regularly, you're
going to that's you're going to hit that a few times and like,
and it's fine. It's totally fine.
So I've always like, I'm always like, man, there are like just
looking at like young people right now.
It's like if you manage to escape like weird woke gender
stuff, like when you're a kid, you still end up becoming like a
weird hyper fixated image spur while maintaining anonymity on
the Internet. Like it's very strange.
And it's like, it's very strange.
And I, I'm always like, dude, I'm telling you, if you're a
single young man, do, do, do more than you're doing.
Let's just say that much like don't be sitting there waiting
for fucking the LSU gymnast girl to like, come out or, like, you
know, just like this, very, like, there she is, my
Hyperborean queen girl from Yogurtland.
Like, fuck her now to all young men.
Like, seriously, like, take it from somebody 10 years older
than you. I'm not like regretting it or
anything. I'm just saying you get that
time once in your life. Do it.
Yeah. That's like straight up like,
yeah, it's. Just be a perfectionist, yeah.
Perfectionism in all way, shape or form.
So yeah. Well, shit, dude.
That's fucking great, man. Thanks for coming on.
Yeah, we had a great time. So points were made, issues were
covered, facts and logic deployed.
So Thomas, where can people find you, man?
Like great account you you you're actually you have more
followers. I thought you were like super.
Did you have? Did you like gain a bunch of
followers recently? Oh, I mean, I, I had like a like
a hit tweet like a year ago or something I think got me like
this and some extra followers. I'm, I'm sitting like 1100 or
something like that, you know? Yeah, but yeah, so I'm, I'm, I'm
the, ER, millennial. It's my ad.
It's a stupid username that I'm kind of stuck with.
No, because it stands out. It stands out.
I know exactly who it is every time.
Well, that works because because there's like 10 David Koresh's.
Then they're all like, they're all different, like David Koresh
people. So I'm like, wait, is that Doug?
And then I'm like, is Doug saying that weird ash?
I'm like, Oh no, that's some fucking weird guy.
Yeah, yeah. I was like, I was like, well,
that's the weird thing for Doug to be saying like, you know, And
then you find out it's some like Canadian guy.
Like you're like, oh God, got it.
He's also David Koresh dear. Stands out.
I know it's you. Cool.
And so I'm as recently I've
become the Co host of a podcast with with Ilitch.
Our people know him from from ghost jail, did all the great
stuff with that. It's called the post nostalgic
wasteland. We're doing it's kind of
topical. Like we'll, we'll take like a
like recently we did, for example, like an episode on
Jonestown, like the kind of commie cult that happened in
like South America. So we'll just like take a story
that we think is interesting and we just kind of like riff about
it. It's we're not claiming to be
like experts in any of this shit, but we're just kind of
like tackling issues that we find interesting.
So post nostalgic wasteland, give us a shot over there.
I think that they're, you know, I think if you're into this,
you, you know, you might find something you're into.
Over there too. Absolutely, absolutely.
Yeah, definitely that size been on that.
Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah, yeah.
Size. Been on that.
Not me though. I guess so, yeah, yeah.
No, of course I would be honored.
I would be honored, yeah. But yeah, absolutely, guys.
Well, yeah, come in. Oh, I forgot.
Next year Thomas and I are going to tackle a very, very big piece
of fiction for sure. I it's really funny, man.
If anybody doesn't know Gain of fiction, we're up to volume 60
at this point. It's very, very fun.
But we're, I'm starting to expand into tomes right now.
Gravity's Rainbow is kind of my long work right now.
After that, it's going to be Ulysses.
And then after that, Roberto Bolanos 2666, I was very
fascinated with Bolano after I read by night in Chile.
Now this is about 8 times the size of a of, of, of that book.
So this will definitely be a, a challenge, but it's always good
when I was like, oh, I want to read this.
And I figured, well, no one's going to like do this with me,
you know, like this, this he goes, hey, it's my favorite
book, dude. Yeah, no, I get it.
I, I like Bolano a lot. I'm very into like postmodern,
like crazy stuff like that. So I I by night in Chile.
It was really interesting. There's like 6 different reads
on it. Like it's really cryptic.
Like like the parapolitical commie people are like, oh, he's
spilling the tea. But then like you can also read
it where he was like, why did I participate so hard on that?
I should have yeah, yeah, yeah. I should have written more books
like I should have just like I should have logged off and
grilled kind of. But it's also, but it's both
like they're both right. Like it's a it's a real like
Dostoevsky existential crisis that he does that that like
where he's constantly like, yeah, but but I was right.
But but what is being right being over being productive, you
know, like just saying I I like when people weigh that stuff
now. So we're going to we're going to
tackle that next. That's really, really fun.
So.