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Yeah, from the five to the six, 
we be in the mix with that rare 

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candy paint job on the web. 
I need food for the kids, money 

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for the rent. 
Fuck a lockdown baby. 

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I can't do that shit and I'll 
never vote 'cause I'm fucking 

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broke and either way I know the 
police ain't gonna leave me 

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alone on a plane by the physical
and rock me. 

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Crypto told me I should bring 
the Glock with me, so I packed 

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up my piece and I'm sliding 
slide 'cause we might get caught

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up in a riot. 
Middle finger trunk, middle 

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finger biting fucker. 
Left fucker. 

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Right as you riding you let us 
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Those rocking, you know 
politics. 

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Baby, we just talk to you. 
From the birds to the bricks, we

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be in the mix with the rare 
candy paint job on the web. 

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Who you with? 
We're we're joined by by by 

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Thomas, our our friend from the 
Prince episode, the epic Prince 

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episode and you know some of you
have heard our appearance on TPN

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doing the Prince episode. 
There's literally a long one of 

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ours own too. 
So if you just can't get enough 

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prints, he's on there along with
Evan and Bayou. 

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Bayou was with us. 
Yeah, that's right. 

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Yeah, that was great. 
So it was a great time. 

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So, yeah, I just wanted to get 
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everything you put on the 
Internet, man. 

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And like, it's always like, it's
always very measured. 

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So it's very measured And and I,
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trying to be safe. 
It's like, oh, that's a real 

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person talking. 
Like that's a, that's a person. 

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Like that's a, a good use of the
I'm getting away from my friend 

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group to say my real thoughts, 
you know, like, like you're 

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like, oh, that, that looks, that
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the Internet, which I don't see 
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Damn that. 
That's that's super reassuring 

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to hear, man, because it's like,
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something I've largely like, 
like learned this from you guys.

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I think that like I don't want 
to be a series of the most based

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I want to be like a dude with 

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thoughts and feelings and, and, 
and, and sometimes that's going 

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to result in me like maybe being
like a little more Lib than some

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people want me to be or maybe a 
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people want me to be. 
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being like sincere and like 
being interested in like looking

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for the truth and looking for 
your own beliefs and looking for

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some principles rather than 
like, I got to arrive at like 

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the take every time, yeah. 
Yeah, you're no 100%. 

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I, I just, I don't know man. 
I, I can't like when you try to 

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strive for that award like the 
most base thing, it is a market 

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based thing at some point. 
So you are reading the market? 

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Literally market based. 
Yeah, market based and, and 

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you're, you're doing that. 
And I just, I grew up with like 

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talk radio people that I would 
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And I was reminded the other day
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always said this on here, it's 
like you kind of want to hate 

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like 30% of the person you 
listen to regularly. 

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Like just hate, like a thing 
that they say constantly or hate

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because it's it's you want to 
feel every range of emotions. 

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And that's like talk radio. 
I'm in the Brandon Decamillo CKY

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video where he's like, fuck you 
in the thing. 

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And he goes, sorry, I'm talking 
to AM radio. 

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This guy's a fucking idiot. 
Like on AM radio and he's doing 

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it. 
And I was like, wow, that's so 

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true. 
Because I was listening to Adam 

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Corolla the other day and he 
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I think Adam Corolla is awesome,
totally great. 

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Gen. 
X, like just Gen. 

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X Chud, California chud, you 
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But he said the other day he 
just was like, he just shit all 

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over Lou Reed for like 10 
minutes and I was just like just

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shit all over him. 
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the mighty boss stones. 
I'm just like, Oh, I was like 

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you. 
I hate this about you, but I 

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can't stop it. 
It makes me want to listen to 

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you again. 
You know what I mean? 

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Like, I mean, it's like a sign 
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It's a it's a it's a sign of the
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that I love. 
That's what we have to alive. 

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Totally, man, because it's like 
we got to like I, I, I get kind 

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of romantic about Twitter. 
I'm like pretty bullish about 

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what Twitter is capable of as 
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connections with each other. 
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sincere connections with each 
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we're like not hiding shit from 
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mean? 
Like I like we need to know that

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we're not like just people 
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otherwise the connection isn't 
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You know, that's what. 
You try to get away from is, is 

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the people. 
It's the thing. 

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It's like you literally do this 
because it's like, wait, I can't

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say. 
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not say this around you because 
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I hate more than anything. 
I think that term is an absolute

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poison pill of a term. 
Like it's just like, no, that 

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just means like I disagree with 
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Like what's going on. 
I'm not trying to like stop, 

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stop your operation from 
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No, I'm not trying. 
I just go, if someone just goes,

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well, I don't know, that's 
weird. 

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What do you mean? 
You know, and and IA person I 

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think does a really good job of 
that is like Anna catching on on

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red skirt. 
She'll just like stop people and

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go, what do you wait? 
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And you can tell like they were 
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you're going to let me talk for 
like 10 minutes about some shit?

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And she's like, no, just like 
the thing you just said. 

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What do you mean? 
And then they're like, Oh, well,

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this, you know, and then and 
then you have to explain it. 

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And a lot of people view that as
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don't. 
I don't like that term at all. 

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I don't like when people use 
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hey, man, like I, I genuinely 
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people that I view in high 
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and even people I don't, it's, 
it's, it's a, it's a fun thing 

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to do. 
So I, I mean, Needless to say, 

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that's why you're here. 
That's why we, I, it's tough for

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us to get guests. 
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when we want to talk about 
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either we talk about the the 
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I like people that can fit into 
what we do and, and, and add 

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that in there. 
So this is gonna be really fun, 

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man. 
This is gonna be really fun. 

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You're a you, you, you were, you
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when we showed up here, you 
were, you were, you said you 

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were jamming around. 
Were you? 

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Are you a Brian Wilson guy at 
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So I'm I'm not like as Beach 
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should be. 
I've only listened to Pet Sounds

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a few times, but like, I think 
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was in a band with a guy who 
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know, and the first time I 
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yeah, OK, I get it. 
Like, I, I totally see why this 

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guy's a big deal. 
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insane, but even just his like 
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are just like literally 
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So I haven't spent a ton of time
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the worship for him is 100% 
warranted. 

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I agree. 
Yeah, I think he's, you know, 

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it's me. 
I'm not like a total tonality 

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guy where you know people, 
there's people that just obsess 

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over chord changes and stuff and
that's. 

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You're looking. 
At no. 

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And at night I am. 
So I am that. 

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I think I'd say no, You are. 
I was like a bullshit. 

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You are, yeah. 
Yeah, no, but it's so like, 

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that's so there. 
But I'm saying is like there's 

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people that will be like, oh, 
The Beatles suck, here's some 

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shitty punk band that's way 
better and you listen to it and 

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there's nothing. 
It's fine musically. 

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I'm not saying music has to be 
crazy, totally complex, but it's

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not what the The Beatles were 
doing some crazy, you know, 

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harmony and tonal tonality. 
Shit, The Beach Boys are the 

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exact same like what you try. 
And I saw a post some guy was 

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like, you know, you, you get 
into The Beach Boys thinking 

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you're going to learn a few 
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like, Oh, I can play a Beach 
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And then you're like, what the 
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Like this is not some basic pop 
songs. 

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Yeah dude, of course it gets it 
gets really Reddit and stuff 

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too. 
But at the score, they are like 

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they are like a Beatles type. 
Well, when you're when you're 

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that big, you, you are going to 
become red. 

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I think a lot of people always 
like there's a lot of people 

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that don't understand when we 
call things Reddit, they like 

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think we cast them off. 
And I'm like, no, that's just 

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like there's OK. 
What was the perfect like I was 

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trying to when people talked 
about like Reddit and I'll and 

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I'll be like, OK, there could be
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Fiction, right? 
That's that movie is obviously a

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very good movie. 
It's Reddit because people buy 

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the merch and every big Lebowski
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They're like, you know, there's 
just constant like quoting of it

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and like the more niche thing 
you know about it signals your 

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fandom rather than an overall 
holistic enjoyment of it. 

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Like that's what when the 
cottage industry inside. 

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The the. 
Intellectual property becomes 

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bigger than the intellectual 
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That's when you notice something
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So anytime when Brian Wilson 
died, I was like, that's sad, 

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man. 
He was what a talent. 

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You know, that was my take. 
And then you see all these 

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things and they go, John Lennon 
got all the credit and Brian 

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Wilson just he never got. 
I'm like, that's your first 

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thought when Brian Wilson dies? 
Like is, is that The Beatles who

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look, I'm sorry, Brian Wilson 
like went batshit insane. 

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Like I heard some reasons are 
not his fault. 

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Like they they're self-inflicted
things and then things that were

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not his. 
I mean, his dad was like hitting

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him in the head with a 2 by 4 
when he was a kid. 

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Like it was nuts. 
Like just like you think about 

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the Jacksons, right, Like you 
think about the Jacksons, but 

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the Jacksons, at least the dad 
thought they were good at music.

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Brian Wilson's dad's like you 
guys are gay. 

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This is like. 
You're not surfing. 

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Fuck this dude. 
Get better at it. 

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You suck bad. 
Like, yeah, no, but then of 

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course, then of course he's all 
into it and everything, you 

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know, once they get big. 
But I I was just thinking like, 

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man, you know, I'm pretty sure 
he would have had a more 

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generational run if he if he 
didn't go insane. 

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And of course John Lennon, for 
the same reason he died. 

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He gets just there's, there's 
all that. 

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But my first thought when my 
favorite, like favorite artist 

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or one of my favorite artist 
dies is isn't like, fuck this 

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other guy? 
But when was like, why wasn't it

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Aaron? 
Eric Clapton read it. 

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Yeah, that's like a that one 
goes like for and the hatred for

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Eric Clapton's a whole nother 
thing that I can't stand. 

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But the they they they do this 
and they freak out about it and 

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it's just. 
And it's all to protect their 

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sensitive young man. 
And then I realized I'm like, 

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oh, Brian Wilson's a sensitive 
young man. 

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That's all it is. 
That and like the actual like 

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that type of fandom, people 
might be saying Glenn's hating 

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on Brian Wilson. 
Absolutely not. 

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I if you like he's my I know 
people like I think down in like

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Nixon country. 
I have some relatives down there

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in like Orange County and they 
would go down party at the beach

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and they would like see them 
like as like a beach kind of 

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band, like back in the they're 
like, this is incredible. 

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These guys are this is so cool 
to have like our own kind of 

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like Beachy rock band that kind 
of I, I have nothing but respect

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for them. 
But when I see these people like

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just tear down these other 
artists who I to be honest, like

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that, Why not? 
Why not just be like, wow, that 

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era was incredible and loaded 
and awesome where you couldn't 

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go wrong. 
Like it just, it's always so 

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weird to me when people do that.
And it's always to protect a 

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sensitive young man. 
The day Morrissey dies is going 

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to be the worst day of all. 
Oh. 

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My God, dude, we're going to 
fucking hear about that. 

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Yeah, or sit, Sit Barrett, Dude,
start. 

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Go ahead. 
Sit Barrett. 

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People that quit, people that 
quit and go insane. 

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You are guaranteed to never have
people. 

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You're gonna have like a a fan 
base forever when that happens. 

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Yeah, and like, so like I've, 
I've posted about this before, 

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like I, I didn't like, OK, it's 
like my girlfriend and her 

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family, they're they're like a 
Beatles family. 

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Like they grew up like Beatles 
just like in their DNA, right. 

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And I didn't, I didn't, I wasn't
like raised on it. 

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So I don't have quite the like 
deep emotional connection with 

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them that that she and her 
family does. 

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But like, to be clear, The 
Beatles are the greatest man of 

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all time. 
Like that. 

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That's that's like settled to 
me. 

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It's like we don't even why even
like fuss about it. 

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It's just true. 
And so it's like, God damn, 

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dude. 
It just it bums me out. 

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Like it actually makes me kind 
of sad that like, you know, 

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someone like Brian Wilson passes
and the first thing someone 

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feels the need to do is like 
shit all over something else. 

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It's like, for one, like, if 
nothing else, that's just like, 

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what a terrible way to honor an 
artist who's, like, made stuff 

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that moves you, you know what I 
mean? 

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It's just like bad energy to me.
They were, they were. 

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Shitting on they were shitting 
on Mike Love, who I know they 

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had like, First off, like, OK, I
don't, I don't know enough about

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The Beach Boys lore beyond 
somebody like I don't know it 

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either. 
I'm sure Mike Love had his 

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issues. 
I'm sure there's reason to 

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believe that he's that he's not 
a great guy. 

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But I'm like, you are in a band 
with like a schizophrenic, you 

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know, like, like, like, like, 
you know what I mean? 

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Like you are in a band with a 
guy who's just like, literally 

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like that must have been a 
nightmare 'cause you know, 

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you're like, fuck, we really 
need this guy. 

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And he's just like, I just took 
a shit on the grand piano. 

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I don't think I'm gonna make 
that. 

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That really tired me out. 
I don't think I can make it 

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today, but I. 
I've played music with people 

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with like similar types of 
issues and it can be difficult, 

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you know? 
The juice eventually might be 

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worth the squeeze, but also kind
of not you. 

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Know. 
Yeah, and dude, Kokomo's a 

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Kokomo's a banger, dude. 
Kokomo I was just about to say, 

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dude, that's. 
Just you're not gonna, we're not

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gonna. 
You can't just toss off a mic 

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love, you know? 
Dude, Chet Hanks. 

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Chet Hanks, yeah. 
He loves that stuff. 

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Did Chet Hanks like get into 
Kokomo? 

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I'm not. 
There's a clip of him and I 

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can't refind it for that. 
It's weird. 

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It's hard to find, but he's in 
some he's in some like dive bar 

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with a jukebox and he's like, 
he's like Instagram live 

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streaming. 
He's like Rose. 

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I just heard this song for the 
first time. 

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You gotta check it out. 
And yeah, I. 

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Love. 
That dude, I was like, that's 

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dude. 
My mom used to work at a 

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trucking company many years ago 
and and Al Jardine is another 

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member of of The Beach Boys and 
he lived in Big Sur. 

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And like my mom was looking at 
their they would deliver like, 

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you know, grand pianos. 
And she was like a dispatcher in

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a way kind of situation. 
So she'd be like, OK, so I'll 

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send a guy to deliver this. 
It was a surfboard to Al 

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Jardine. 
And I'm like, obviously it's 

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him. 
You're like, you're like, oh, 

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what is it just some coincidence
another guy with that name 

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that's ordering a surfboard at 
Big Sur? 

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Yeah. 
It's like a Muslim Al Jar 

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Jardine. 
Mohammed Al Jardine. 

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Yeah. 
Love to surf, bro. 

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I love to surf, bro. 
From Iran, bro. 

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Freak out here, bro. 
Brian Wilson, bro. 

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Tone changes, bro. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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I was just. 
I was like, because I was like, 

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that is sick, though. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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She delivered a smoke or like 
she was saw the manifest for a 

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good delivery, like a smoker for
Jerry Rice. 

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All these, like big players. 
It was pretty fun. 

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Al Jardine was in the in the in 
the big one there. 

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So should we should we talk 
about Speaking of Beach Boys, 

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Remember the Remember the Bomb? 
I ran song back? 

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In I forgot about this. 
Transition yeah, I was I was 

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just thinking about that. 
It was Barbara Ann and I think 

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wasn't it like Mike Huckabee 
singing it back in the day? 

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You used to just get back in the
day, you didn't have to hide 

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about bombing people like you. 
You would just be like, we're 

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going to go scorch the fucking 
Jeff Dunham just did a puppet 

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show with this. 
We're going to take out all of 

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that puppet in the Middle East 
and. 

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And they would they would do the
bomb bomb or was there was a. 

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Weird Al or something to did 
that? 

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No, Weird Al. 
Weird Al would never push the 

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envelope like that dude. 
Weird Al. 

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Weird Weird Al. 
Yeah, I mean, what if he is? 

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What if your Weird AL's just 
like insanely based like Rob 

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Schneider? 
Yeah, Rob Schneider was cool. 

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Rob Schneider had it in him. 
He was. 

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Rob Schneider reads like Steve 
Kirsch on sub stack. 

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It's crazy. 
I'm. 

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Sorry, Rob Schneider's like a 
pretty careful thinker. 

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He's definitely he's not like a 
he's not like a reflexive like 

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celebrity based. 
This guy, He's kind of like, yo,

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am I wrong about that? 
You know, it's really 

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interesting. 
Yeah, it's, it's, yeah, of 

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course, the vaccine stuff. 
Yeah, that's the. 

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Main yeah, no, I just I remember
one time during COVID, like when

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every day it was like somebody 
like it would a celebrity would 

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come out and be like I've 
surrounded by anti vaxxer and 

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they would freak out and you'd 
be like, well, there's another 

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celebrity that's just being 
stupid, you know, like and then 

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all of a sudden I was like, 
damn, dude, do some Bigelows 

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active man. 
Well, I was like, man, he's 

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going crazy. 
Yeah, that was great. 

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I know people were like throwing
that in his face, like dude, 

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you're fucking like an Adam 
Sandler actor. 

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I'm like, that's sick. 
You're just in your movies with 

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your friends from Saturday Night
Live your whole life. 

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That's awesome. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
Don't tempt. 

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Don't tempt me. 
We're going to get you right 

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All right, enough of that. 
Let's get you back into the 

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episode. 
Si Si's been chomping at the 

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bit. 
He's been he's been texting me. 

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I've been texting me and I've 
never seen him. 

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I've never seen him get this. 
You're not I won't call you 

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flustered. 
You're not flustered, but you 

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got you got a little bite to you
sound like me a little bit when 

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I get a little after it. 
So tell me, tell me about the 

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Iran situation right now and why
it's not good, actually. 

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Yeah, I don't know. 
I just think first of all like, 

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well, first of. 
All talk about talk about it 

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holistically and then the online
activity around it afterwards. 

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I think those are two separate 
things, I think. 

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The timeline, from what I 
understand is the the, you know,

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the Netanyahu and Israel were 
beefing with Iran and then they 

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started military action against 
them while the United States was

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supposedly having dialogue and 
peace talks with Iran. 

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And then lo and behold, within 
less than a week does a 180. 

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And then we bombed the nuclear 
facility. 

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And, and yeah, I just think, I 
don't know, I I just think that 

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maybe, you know, again, there's 
people that freak out and say 

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this is the start of like World 
War three and all this shit and 

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just immediately just chomp at 
the bit for that. 

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And then there's the other end 
of the spectrum, the plan 

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trusters, which I've never 
really been fully bought it. 

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I've never like, I'm just like 
not the type to buy into any of 

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this. 
You're. 

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Just not in the way. 
You're just not a plan guy. 

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No, I'm not like in. 
General. 

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In general, I don't think you 
really like plans in general. 

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Fucking dinner. 
Plans, dude, Dinner plans. 

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You're like, I'm not a plan 
truster. 

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I'm not showing. 
Up. 

404
00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,920
Yeah, definitely not. 
Maybe the buffet, but no. 

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But. 
I. 

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Don't know. 
And I'm just, I don't know, 

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there's I think it's good. 
We have guys like Dave Smith and

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Glenn Greenwald and Max 
Blumenthal and all these, you 

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know, Thomas Massie, yes, I 
think, and I think it's good we 

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have those guys, even though 
they can be annoying at times. 

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And like, you know, it's kind of
be naggy. 

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It's like a nag for someone 
that's nagging you and you're 

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like, shut up. 
I know, you know, kind of thing.

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But and then on the other end of
the side of the coin you have, 

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you're going. 
To say spectrum, you're going to

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say spectrum. 
That's all right. 

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Yeah, that's fine. 
That fit. 

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There's our local, we just went 
to this coffee shop today and 

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the their house blend is called 
Spectrum Blend and it's 

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literally like a rainbow like 
puzzle thing. 

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It's like, is this on purpose or
is this? 

422
00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,800
Yeah, but tender chicken tenders
and pasta with nothing. 

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Yeah, it's like notes of chicken
tender. 

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Yeah, but yeah, but now you OK, 
Now you have, regardless of 

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whatever this is, like 5D chess 
or 20D chess or whatever, which 

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I'm frankly a little doubtful 
of, not 100%, but I'm just like,

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I'm just not buying that right 
away. 

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Now you have people, you know, 
all the people that the MAGA 

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coalition threw to the curb, 
rightfully so this last time, 

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Mike Pence, John Bolton, all 
these people are like, yeah, 

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this was the best thing ever. 
And everyone has to pretend that

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it's now. 
And I'm like, I'm just like, can

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we get some like consistency? 
And also, even if you agree with

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what's happening and everything,
like you just, you have to admit

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that a, a certain very real and 
sizeable percentage of maybe not

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the majority, but at least, I 
don't know, 30% didn't vote for 

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this shit. 
And that's just, that's OK to 

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admit and to say, you know, and 
I don't know, I just feel like 

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everyone's kind of, you know, I,
I just. 

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I don't know, I just don't. 
I just don't have that level. 

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I don't have that dog in me to 
to just go along with any of 

442
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,280
this shit right away. 
I also think there's another 

443
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:16,560
thing. 
I feel a lot of people feel the 

444
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,760
same and they don't speak about 
it, you know, because they're 

445
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,000
scared of group chats or 
whatever or anything, you know, 

446
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,400
but which is really fucking gay.
But yeah. 

447
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,680
Tai tea, dude. 
That's actually Tai tea, dude. 

448
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,680
Yeah. 
I want you, Yeah. 

449
00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,400
Yeah. 
I mean the best case scenario, 

450
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,200
you know, I just don't, I just 
don't trust the Israel aspect of

451
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,240
this. 
And I don't think of this is 

452
00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:36,880
going to, they're going to sit 
down and not. 

453
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,680
And also I do hate geopolitics 
And I, I'm not like, I know, I 

454
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,280
don't like, I'm not an expert in
this, you know, and it's just, 

455
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,040
that's my thing. 
I think when you're, you know, I

456
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,400
know Massey and those guys can 
be annoying, but when you're 

457
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,240
kicking them to the curb and 
kind of doing this whole like 

458
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,800
with us or against us thing. 
And I got to say, like, like 

459
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,400
Cernovich, that guy is so 
strange because he's like, he's 

460
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,840
doing Massey style tweets. 
But then every fifth one would 

461
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,320
be like, Massey's such a fucked 
art. 

462
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,600
He can't get along with us. 
I'm like, dude, you're doing 

463
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,040
what he's doing. 
Like you're literally, you're on

464
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,760
his side on this issue. 
So it's just so confusing and I 

465
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,360
don't know, it's so dumb. 
Yeah, yeah. 

466
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,760
Well. 
It's on America first. 

467
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,720
So what happened to that? 
I just what happened to? 

468
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,800
America first. 
So I will I, I want to hear 

469
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,560
Thomas and because I, I will, I 
will present the opposing sides 

470
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,440
argument and why and then mine 
because I, there's, there's an 

471
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,840
opposing side argument that 
people are making that I think 

472
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,200
is interesting. 
But Thomas, I want to hear your 

473
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:30,880
take on. 
This Yeah. 

474
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,840
And like, gosh, you got a lot of
thoughts about this. 

475
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,240
Like, I mean, that that's 
something I hadn't considered 

476
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:41,120
that like people who like people
who because like MAGA kind of 

477
00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:43,600
took over the right, right or 
took over the Republican Party, 

478
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,960
right. 
And like, and then some, some of

479
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,360
the the old right wingers kind 
of like took their ball and went

480
00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:50,600
home, which we were like cool. 
And and like, yeah, yeah. 

481
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,400
When I say we like, you know, 
like I self identify as right 

482
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,080
wing, I know you guys don't 
necessarily do that. 

483
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,800
And and so like, I don't want to
like lump you into some shit 

484
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,360
that you don't feel like you. 
That's fine. 

485
00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:00,560
That's cool. 
Yeah. 

486
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,440
That's my my big take with it is
I say my opinion and it's up to 

487
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:05,560
you. 
Like, and I've been called 

488
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,600
everything in the book. 
So I've always, I kind of think 

489
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,960
that's kind of how politics 
actually works is, yeah, unless 

490
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,960
we're running for office, you 
kind of really can't declare 

491
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,680
anything. 
Like because somebody could say 

492
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,480
I'm right wing, but I'm fucking 
freaking out about something 

493
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,840
completely leftist and people 
go, well, instead he's right 

494
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,960
wing. 
It's like, well, all right, I 

495
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,160
don't think so though, you know,
so, but, but I see what you're 

496
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,760
saying like I see what you're 
saying. 

497
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,600
Like I, you know. 
Like I, I, I'm so like, I guess 

498
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,360
I'll just to like air my biases 
out. 

499
00:22:30,360 --> 00:22:33,640
Like I consider myself like kind
of a plan truster and like I use

500
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,040
that term like kind of tongue in
cheek. 

501
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,680
Like I'm always like sort of 
half joking, right? 

502
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,200
But like, to me what what it 
means to be like a plan, 

503
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,760
Chester, is that I I believe 
that Trump, the reason I like 

504
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,520
Trump is that I think he likes 
America, you know, and I, I 

505
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,920
think that's more than I can say
for a lot of politics for sure, 

506
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,800
you know, and like. 
He doesn't actively hate 

507
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:58,720
everyone in the country. 
Yeah, exactly. 

508
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,720
Yeah, it was a shame that that's
like such a such a like selling 

509
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,360
point because that should be 
like a given. 

510
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,080
But he like, I don't think you 
can say that about Kamala 

511
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,720
Harris, but it's like, I think, 
I think that's like his general 

512
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,080
orientation. 
I think he tends to want what's 

513
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,280
best for America. 
That's not to say that every 

514
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,680
single one of his actions is 
going to be like perfectly 

515
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:23,000
America first. 
But I guess like I, I think for 

516
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,880
one, it's OK to support the guy 
and not love everything he does.

517
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,520
I think that just like should be
fine. 

518
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:32,840
Yeah, of course. 
But like, I guess to me, my hope

519
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,360
is that like, this thing doesn't
escalate into another forever 

520
00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:37,960
war. 
Like I my main thing, I just 

521
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,840
hope that Americans don't have 
to die for this. 

522
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,480
And honestly, like, to me, if no
Americans die and, and I can 

523
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,280
just like maybe we can reach a 
point where I don't have to 

524
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,600
think about this shit anymore 
because it's not really in any 

525
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,560
of my business. 
That would be like pretty much 

526
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,880
fine. 
And yeah, yeah, I guess that's 

527
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,640
that's kind of a scattershot way
of introducing my perspective 

528
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:56,600
there, you know? 
OK. 

529
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,160
So you said something at the end
there that I think a lot of 

530
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,280
people are really trying to 
press Fast forward on this. 

531
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,640
Like they're like, I want, I, I 
fucking hate this. 

532
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,040
I trust the plan, trust the 
plan, Fast forward and then 

533
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,600
nothing happens, right? 
I think that's what a lot of 

534
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,360
people, a lot of people want, 
including myself. 

535
00:24:10,360 --> 00:24:14,360
Like I, I straight up right now,
I want like nothing to happen 

536
00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:15,960
beyond this. 
So right now we're recording 

537
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:21,080
this, it's 3:30 on Monday, June 
23rd is West Coast time. 

538
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,920
So at this point, what we know 
is that the US has attacked the 

539
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,560
Iran missile, but I suck at 
this. 

540
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,160
The missile bases. 
Fucking I don't know I that, but

541
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:37,840
then, but then Iran, apparently 
it's it's literally customary to

542
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,640
them. 
I believe Merrick from good old 

543
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:40,880
boys basically said, I don't 
know who it was. 

544
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,200
It told me, but Muslims 
literally take turns like in 

545
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,200
war, like they literally it's 
like you get a turn, I get a 

546
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,960
turn like like are those 
countries like like I maybe 

547
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,000
that's a thing. 
I have no idea. 

548
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,720
It seems like it was. 
It seems like they were like, 

549
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,640
look, we have to do something 
like we have to like do 

550
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,280
something that got intercepted. 
It's and apparently it's not a 

551
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,200
thing now. 
There's a lot of people saying, 

552
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,240
well, that's it. 
Trust the plan. 

553
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,480
I want, I, I want that to be the
case. 

554
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,640
Straight up. 
I want that to be the case. 

555
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,440
And a lot of times when you come
at it and you try to poke holes 

556
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,880
or not poke holes, but just like
offer like a hmm, I'm not, I'm 

557
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,880
not really into that. 
A lot of people think there's a 

558
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,920
like electoral consequences to 
that. 

559
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,680
And I'm like, well, that's over.
I don't, I, I've made it 

560
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,840
abundantly clear that I don't 
want Kamala Harris anywhere in 

561
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,240
your presidency. 
She's not. 

562
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:27,920
She's not. 
I don't think also I've ever 

563
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,120
going to be. 
Yeah, I'd argue that I'd argue 

564
00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:33,120
almost the opposite for if you 
care about this kind of stuff. 

565
00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:35,600
I really don't honestly. 
But if you care about midterms 

566
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,520
and stuff, this has potential to
hurts and the, you know, the 

567
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,440
kind of and we could get these 
whatever we had in 2020 back 

568
00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:44,600
again. 
For sure. 

569
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,000
No, exactly. 
Like you haven't entrenched like

570
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:53,120
there's a big swing to the right
in terms of like political power

571
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:56,240
right now more than it's been in
quite some time in terms of, 

572
00:25:56,360 --> 00:25:59,480
yeah, all the branches. 
It's not guaranteed to stay that

573
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,520
way. 
Now, granted, there's plenty of 

574
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,200
Democrats that are down for this
war stuff. 

575
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,760
I am generally pretty black 
pilled geopolitically. 

576
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,320
That's like kind of why I don't 
care, because a lot of times you

577
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,800
get to the answer and you're 
like, wow, I hate the answer, 

578
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,160
you know, and then and then and 
then you realize you're like, 

579
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,040
OK, but what's my Ave. to 
stopping it? 

580
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,080
And a lot of people will say, 
well, leftism, I'll go cool, let

581
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,200
me say all my other beliefs 
around them and they'll be happy

582
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,760
to have me. 
You know, there's always there's

583
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,120
always that. 
So you I do feel genuinely black

584
00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:34,040
pilled geopolitically now. 
I still am kind of a like hippie

585
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,760
little loser about about war. 
I just don't like it. 

586
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:37,840
I just. 
Yeah. 

587
00:26:38,120 --> 00:26:40,760
Totally, I just don't, it's not 
for me and I can't pretend to 

588
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,960
now like I just and some people 
will say, well, it's not going 

589
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,160
to be a war going like and I, 
and I again, I'm hoping for that

590
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,320
and I, I do think there's 
something to it where if we did 

591
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,400
have Kamala, not only would this
Iran thing might still be 

592
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,640
happening, I don't know, maybe, 
but Russia definitely could do 

593
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,920
World War three with allies and 
stuff like and she she her 

594
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,040
administration seemed hell bent 
on the Putin stuff. 

595
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:06,280
So like that, that to me is 
like, yeah, that like I 

596
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,120
definitely still think at least 
like Iran. 

597
00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:09,320
It's like who's coming to help 
Iran? 

598
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,800
Like probably. 
Well, they're not all the all 

599
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,120
the lips are quiet about this. 
If you notice, they're not like,

600
00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:15,320
yeah, it's still missing some 
puzzle against. 

601
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,960
It's still no Kings, dude. 
They're still on no? 

602
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:17,680
Kings. 
Yeah, exactly. 

603
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,040
They're. 
On the Yeah, they're on no 

604
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,920
kings, dude. 
They're they're, they're, 

605
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,680
they're going to get this like a
month from now, like they're 

606
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,280
going to be like, Oh yeah, it's 
and, and also, again, there's 

607
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,240
plenty of, you know, stuff for 
Democrat and there's a lot of 

608
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,200
Democrats that like Israel. 
So it's kind of like they're 

609
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,480
not, it's pretty tough for them 
to like, you know, it's not all 

610
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,240
Twitter. 
That's why Twitter kind of isn't

611
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,480
real life. 
A lot of times I'm like, you're 

612
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,560
going to meet like a straight up
libtard that draped in Israeli 

613
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,840
flags like, like you will like, 
like in real life, you're just 

614
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:52,360
like, oh, OK, so. 
And what I didn't like was that 

615
00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:56,600
I was like, OK, a simple saying 
like, hmm, I'm not into that. 

616
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,760
That doesn't mean I'm not gonna 
say like you see, like the Nick 

617
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:05,920
Fuentes's see see, but you know,
like those people. 

618
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,560
I I just hate when everyone a I 
hate sacred cows. 

619
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,960
I can't do sacred cows. 
Anytime I see sense something 

620
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,880
become a sacred cow, I almost 
have a contrarian element to be 

621
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,600
like, yeah, but you know, then 
then, but then the on the other 

622
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:24,680
end of it, it's kind of like, 
okay, we we don't need to we 

623
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,720
don't need to do the like optics
thing right now. 

624
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,560
It's not that big of a deal. 
I in fact, I think the fun part 

625
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:34,760
about all of this was like 
seeing kind of a nuanced right a

626
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,400
little bit like, I think it's 
good. 

627
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,920
I think it's good that you have 
that like what Sai was saying. 

628
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,160
I think it's good because like 
on the left, like you straight 

629
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,560
up just get like thrown into a 
wooden. 

630
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,360
That's exactly like, yeah, 
that's that's what I've been 

631
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,760
thinking here is I started to 
catch you up with like I was, I 

632
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,160
was thinking about this just 
last night. 

633
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,040
I was talking to this dude. 
I was like, like on the left, 

634
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,240
you straight up can't have a 
dialogue, right? 

635
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,360
It's you get the memo and you 
fall in or you get kicked out. 

636
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,160
You know, those are those are 
the two options. 

637
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,640
So it's like on the right, like 
we could say that like the 

638
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,560
diversity is our strength. 
You know what I mean? 

639
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,720
We could say that like, because 
there's people on the right, 

640
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,360
it's kind of a diffuse group and
there's different people with 

641
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,800
different perspectives and like 
it's highly opinionated, often 

642
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,640
very intelligent people with 
different perspectives. 

643
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,840
Like if we can make that 
dialogue, like I think that not 

644
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:23,280
only has like not only practical
implications as far as just like

645
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,840
helping like iron sharp and iron
and helping people just like get

646
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,040
smarter. 
It also is just like a thing 

647
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,080
that people like, want to be a 
part of, you know what I mean? 

648
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,640
Which I think I'll speak like 
that. 

649
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,360
That seems like an advantage, 
you know? 

650
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,400
Yeah, well, and, and so I guess 
so at Sy's point was, Sy said 

651
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,120
earlier, America First. 
Right now there's a lot of 

652
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,040
people that would argue, not 
myself, but I, I think it's 

653
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,680
important to at least understand
their argument that America 

654
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,040
First means America wins 
everything. 

655
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,960
America controls everything. 
America's literally in first 

656
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,280
place. 
You know what I'm saying? 

657
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,640
Like, like that's what they 
mean. 

658
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,640
Like across the entire globe. 
Now, Israel to those people is 

659
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,160
your hub in the Middle East. 
It's the non-muslim hub in the 

660
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,680
middle, in Middle East where you
could control everything. 

661
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,120
It's basically like an American 
like Hawaii out there basically 

662
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,920
to them, you know, or just any, 
any sort of like kind of 

663
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,120
sovereign state and whatever, 
like you. 

664
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,440
That's that's what they say 
about that. 

665
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,280
And I know some people who think
like that, obviously they're 

666
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,720
cheering this on. 
It's coherent. 

667
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,840
I don't agree. 
So it's that, but that is there.

668
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,960
There are a lot of people, 
though, who I know who are like,

669
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,360
Oh, I was down for like American
nationalism, play defense, 

670
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,320
defense wins championships. 
Like kind of situation where 

671
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,520
we're like, look, we we defend 
America. 

672
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,080
I am of the Welbeck submission 
mind myself, where it's like, if

673
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,360
you're worried about the threat 
from the Middle East, solidify 

674
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,080
your culture in America, because
that's what about well, Michelle

675
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,920
Welbeck submission is about it's
not. 

676
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,480
It's not necessarily about 
Muslims are scary. 

677
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,520
Like he does say that, but I 
just mean he's like they he's 

678
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,600
like they they know exactly what
they want and what their country

679
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,960
looks like. 
And then in Europe, they're so 

680
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,680
scared to just go. 
This is what Europe is. 

681
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,160
So that so that makes it so 
another Michael Crichton did the

682
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,400
same thing with rising Sun. 
It's like when one country knows

683
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,120
exactly what they want and the 
other one's like whatever, you 

684
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,320
know, like a lot of times the 
other country's going to take 

685
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,680
the, the, the So that's like, 
I'm more so like, look, we have 

686
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,200
like our own war in America. 
Like I legitimately think the 

687
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,240
culture war in America is kind 
of real. 

688
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,280
It's like actually real, and 
it's kind of worth fighting for 

689
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:27,280
like in. 
My. 

690
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,080
Opinion, in my opinion. 
So when I'm just kind of like, 

691
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,600
OK, when I hear that, it's just 
like, look, Bibi was able, you 

692
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,520
know, Donald Trump is this rogue
maverick guy. 

693
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,320
But then Bibi Netanyahu got sad,
so he had to strike someone for 

694
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,880
him. 
You know, like that to me, I'm 

695
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,720
like, OK, that's, that's not 
checking out for me. 

696
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,920
Like, that's not that's that's, 
you know, do do him like you do 

697
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,600
Zelensky, you know what I'm 
saying? 

698
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,480
Like, yeah. 
Like, like I kind of wish like 

699
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,040
there was a little bit of that. 
And it's just then you see that,

700
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,280
like there, I think there's 
truth to the pair of political 

701
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,560
people that can be very annoying
sometimes, but they very much. 

702
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,680
I'm like, yeah, there's probably
something to that. 

703
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,960
And I just think it's like 
pointing that out, like in a 

704
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,520
especially the way Tucker does 
it. 

705
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,160
There were people freaking out 
about Tucker. 

706
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,240
First off, if you think one guy 
was posting fucking alien, 

707
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,000
Tucker thinks you got visited by
demons and aliens and like, oh, 

708
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,640
is that supposed to fucking get 
me away from him? 

709
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:20,240
No way. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, guy with a 

710
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,200
cool house guy with a cool house
that pops in all day and fucking

711
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,480
throws on jam and guitar music 
and talks about cool shit like 

712
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,840
wow, I'd hate that. 
But anyways, like people, I I 

713
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,040
just was like, dude, this is so 
this is so fake and I don't know

714
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,840
what the optics is. 
People are trying to trying to 

715
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,920
secure like like people just go 
like, oh man, I just wish I just

716
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,440
wish you would trust I go. 
Well, The thing is, is I want to

717
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,080
know what the plan is. 
That's just what it is. 

718
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,440
Like, just tell me exactly what 
the plan is, and then I'll 

719
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,760
decide if I trust it. 
Because The thing is to me is if

720
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,680
you always believe in what's 
happening, you'll always come 

721
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,240
out on top, right? 
That's what everyone's trying to

722
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,840
do. 
Like, well, well, that's what I 

723
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,040
wanted. 
That's what I wanted because I 

724
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,400
trust the plan well. 
That's what no one was. 

725
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,160
No one was talking about Iran 2 
fucking weeks ago, right? 

726
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,840
No one was. 
It was not they. 

727
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,960
They've been doing this. 
They've been doing this two 

728
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,920
weeks away from a nuclear 
missile for literally 4 decades 

729
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,000
now. 
Like it's been a neocon wet 

730
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,880
dream. 
Yeah, which I thought we were 

731
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,240
all trying to get away from 
that. 

732
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,320
I just thought again, like, 
yeah, what's the plan? 

733
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,120
I thought we were trying to move
away from that. 

734
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,560
And it's like, again, I'm down 
to like, even in conversations 

735
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,200
with God, they're like, yeah, 
pacifism is going to lead to 

736
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,920
retardation. 
Like, you can't be all past this

737
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,400
all the time. 
And that's like the most happy 

738
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,320
spiritual move of all time. 
Yeah. 

739
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,120
So I, I like, you know, I like 
having sick military. 

740
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,560
I think we do waste a lot of 
money there, you know, all blah,

741
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,160
blah, blah. 
I think the planes are sick, the

742
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,760
bomb, you know that. 
I've always loved that. 

743
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,240
But the whole thing is like, and
like, and again, just like all 

744
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,440
the stuff that's happening with 
like Tulsi Gabbard and RFK where

745
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,520
like Tulsi like see in March was
like, yeah, they're not building

746
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,040
a nuclear weapon. 
And then two like 2 days ago, 

747
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,320
she's like, no, they are. 
I'm like, okay, that's fake. 

748
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,000
You're lying. 
You're, you know, it's like 

749
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,560
you're just saying this now. 
We've been through this before. 

750
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,560
We've been just saying like, 
come on, like just have a little

751
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:08,199
bit of don't be so incredulous 
or incredulous where it is. 

752
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:09,480
You know, just like, come on 
guys. 

753
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,679
Like just a little bit. 
Of yeah, to me it's, it's like, 

754
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,440
I mean the, the, the two things 
I have here is like, I don't 

755
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,040
know if you guys listen to night
owls that maybe not quite you've

756
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,199
seen, but like. 
That's like a space, right? 

757
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:21,000
Yeah. 
Yeah, I have. 

758
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:23,600
I'm not a night owl anymore, 
dude, honestly. 

759
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,400
Like like early. 
I don't mean. 

760
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,800
I've never actually listened. 
I just mean I literally can't 

761
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,800
stay up that later anymore. 
Like happened really fucking 

762
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,960
late like so I'm. 
Like he does a lot of time. 

763
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,600
But yeah, so like, yeah, the the
two guys that run it, it's a 

764
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:42,960
nightmare vision and future 
Moldovan citizen and Moldovan as

765
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,320
they call him, he said he like 
prefaced this by like he's 

766
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,800
trying to like, you know what, 
trying to declare his like 

767
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,480
allegiance. 
He says like, I love Donald 

768
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:51,840
Trump. 
I would die for Donald Trump. 

769
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,120
I love him more than anything. 
But I don't really like what's 

770
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,880
going on with Israel right now. 
And like that to me seems like 

771
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,000
right, that that's not counter 
signaling. 

772
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,040
That's just like a guy saying 
what he thinks. 

773
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,880
And I think that it's like kind 
of the bare minimum that that 

774
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,440
should be like allowable. 
I, I do think, I mean, speaking 

775
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,280
like spirituality, you know, 
it's like, there's almost like a

776
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,840
Daoist element to this that 
like, you know, with like, like 

777
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,600
the idea of Wuwei is that like, 
you never want to burn excess 

778
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,480
energy, right? 
Like if you, if you burn too 

779
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,840
many calories, you eventually 
see like diminishing returns, 

780
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,400
right? 
And so like, if if it turns out 

781
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,800
from and like, you know, Wuwei 
might be more than we can 

782
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,920
reasonably expect from the US 
military, But like, if it turns 

783
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,320
out that like this was an 
application of exactly as much 

784
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,600
force as was necessary and then 
you don't push it any further, 

785
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,160
then like, OK, cool. 
And again, like what you were 

786
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,600
saying, like I hope that's true.
But it's like, yeah, I mean, 

787
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,920
maybe I'm repeating myself a 
little bit, but just like, yeah,

788
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,600
I think it, it should be fine to
just like express different 

789
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,800
ideas without being accused of 
blackmailing or counter 

790
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,480
signalling. 
And, and yeah, like I, I guess, 

791
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,920
and we'll see how it plays out. 
And, and maybe this turns out to

792
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,560
be a total catastrophe and I'll 
eat my words. 

793
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,800
But it, it could be something 
like, you know, you guys 

794
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,560
remember when Qassem Suleimani 
got killed? 

795
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,520
Because that was one of those 
things where people were like, 

796
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,960
oh, Trump jacked an Iranian guy.
Now it's going to be ended up 

797
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,000
not being totally catastrophic. 
We'll see if it plays out 

798
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,640
similarly. 
That's again, that's my hope. 

799
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,240
So, so that that's a good point.
That's that's one call back 

800
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:17,240
where you're like, OK, that 
didn't really, you know, 

801
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:19,440
whether, you know, you could 
always say, oh, I shouldn't have

802
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,880
done that, but at least it 
didn't lead to fucking what 

803
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,040
nobody wants. 
Really. 

804
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,720
Literally. 
No, but no, like, I'm sorry, I 

805
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:28,080
don't believe this many people 
after watching Vietnam, Iraq and

806
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,720
all that stuff go, yeah, war's 
sick. 

807
00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:31,600
Let's do it forever. 
Yeah. 

808
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,280
Like, so to me it's it's like, 
OK, if this if this is just tit 

809
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,920
for tat, we're done. 
Iran saw our teeth and said, 

810
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,040
Nah, like and said, OK, we're 
good. 

811
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,440
We'll retreat if that's the 
case. 

812
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,520
My thing is, I would trust Trump
to make that decision on his 

813
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:46,640
own. 
I absolutely. 

814
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,200
Exactly but. 
But when Bibi Netanyahu gets mad

815
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,720
again, which, what, an hour from
now? 

816
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,880
An hour from now, he gets mad. 
And do you respond every time he

817
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,080
gets mad? 
Sure. 

818
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:00,600
Like, you know, like to me, look
what they what do they say about

819
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,640
kids, right, that you don't pick
them up every time they fall 

820
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:05,160
Because if you do that every 
fucking time, they expect it 

821
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,000
every time. 
And like, dude, I saw like the 

822
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,200
most rabid Zionist people going 
like, it's not enough, Don. 

823
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,240
Yeah. 
Yeah, you know, like it's like, 

824
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,520
it's like, OK, here's the thing.
Like that's that's my problem. 

825
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,120
I don't if if Trump was just 
like that guy's going to fucking

826
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,360
wreck shop on America, not even 
even just like that guy. 

827
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,280
We got to take that guy out. 
Again, still not really my 

828
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,280
expert area of expertise, but I 
would I would. 

829
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,840
It doesn't result in like 
massive, massive, massive 

830
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,480
bloodshed and you get it done 
and it's calculated. 

831
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,200
That's fine. 
And also to me, I'm, I'm a 

832
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,360
little worried that now this is 
my worst case scenario theory, 

833
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,640
worst this case scenario. 
This is not what I expect to 

834
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,920
happen, but it's the in the back
of my mind, the worst thing that

835
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,760
can happen is within realistic. 
OK, look, let's, let's, let's 

836
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:58,800
say this, if you, you get a OK, 
let's say you, you know, Iran 

837
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,880
with this, they've, they've 
they've struck back, but it was 

838
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,240
intercepted and, and nothing and
nothing happened. 

839
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,760
And then you go, OK, we're at 
peace. 

840
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,600
Iran said no more, right? 
We're not doing that. 

841
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,960
We don't, I don't know what 
everyone's take on 9/11 is. 

842
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,960
However, I have a feeling a lot 
of people feel the way I feel 

843
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,520
about 911 and I'm not going to 
go into it right now, but I 

844
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,160
don't believe the thing you see 
on major news networks. 

845
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,000
Let's just say that much. 
I'm very false flag pilled. 

846
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,480
And if you want a forever war, 
that's what it's built on. 

847
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,680
That's the only thing missing 
right now is from this whole 

848
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,920
thing. 
And, and I, I'm not saying 

849
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,240
they're going to do it, but I've
already seen the you there's a 

850
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:40,800
lot of they were talking about 
Iranian sleeper cells. 

851
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,960
We have our own too. 
I mean that the culture war is 

852
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,000
fought by sleeper cell people. 
They like, like every culture 

853
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,880
war moment. 
I feel like 50 to 60% of them 

854
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,600
are deployed and like, you know,
and and unironically made on 

855
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,360
like Reddit and stuff like like 
like in discord and not the rare

856
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,400
candy discord, but. 
You know. 

857
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,040
The but they the I'm scared of 
that to where everyone goes, 

858
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,520
well, now we have to. 
And then you realize you're 

859
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,360
going like this is all based off
fucking some fake ass shit, you 

860
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,960
know, and that and that's and 
that's when I get scared, right?

861
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,360
That's what I don't want to 
happen. 

862
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,320
Now, I think if it's played on 
the surface level and what we're

863
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,040
told is what we're is what's 
going to happen, which frankly, 

864
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,400
that doesn't happen a lot. 
But if that if that's the case, 

865
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,920
I expect this to die down a 
little bit again. 

866
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,400
What is your response to Bibi 
Netanyahu next time? 

867
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,240
And also ask for something in 
return. 

868
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,240
Fuck. 
Yeah, totally. 

869
00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:32,760
Yeah. 
Like ask for something in 

870
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,080
return, literally. 
One thing. 

871
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,800
Like at least. 
Hook us up with some like extra 

872
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,400
hummus or something. 
I don't know what they have in. 

873
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,360
Israel, well, no, they give, 
they give the US stuff in return

874
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,480
in terms of military 
surveillance and hubs and stuff,

875
00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:46,160
but sure. 
Or like us, you know, like the 

876
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,280
yeah, literally something like 
like because. 

877
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,520
But again, not going to happen. 
That's that's not the that's not

878
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,480
the patronage system between the
US and Israel. 

879
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,480
So I just that to me, I, I'm not
saying that's going to happen. 

880
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,600
It's in the back of my mind and 
it's in the back of a lot of 

881
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:01,760
people's mind. 
And I think you should be 

882
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,400
afraid. 
You should at least say like, 

883
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,400
Hey, I hope this doesn't happen 
like. 

884
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,080
And that that's me because like 
we're all like like early to mid

885
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,200
30s or whatever. 
So like we, we lived through 

886
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,240
that stuff. 
We lived through 911 and all the

887
00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:15,520
stuff that happened after that. 
So I think it's, I think it's 

888
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,720
like fair enough for people of 
our generation to be like, hey 

889
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:20,120
man, we saw some stuff like 
this. 

890
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,960
We really, really don't want it 
to happen again. 

891
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,680
Like, that's not unfair, you 
know? 

892
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,400
It was in the same facet too. 
Look, I think Trump is a million

893
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,120
times better than George Bush. 
Honestly, regarding what happens

894
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,040
right now, I think domestically 
Trump does a really good job. 

895
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:38,880
I think, like you said, I think 
he genuinely wants the country 

896
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,400
to be pretty good. 
Doesn't actively hate a large 

897
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:47,040
percentage of the country like 
it's for who they are at least. 

898
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,680
And you I think that's that's 
the case. 

899
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,040
But like you look at what 
happened in the early 2000s. 

900
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,240
It was a it was a, you know, you
had George Bush taking over 

901
00:40:56,240 --> 00:41:00,000
after a long time Democrat. 
So those guys probably agreed on

902
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,080
war more than they didn't. 
You know, that's the whole 

903
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,640
neoliberal neoconservative 
alliance thing that happened. 

904
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,640
But to the American public, that
was very divided between those 

905
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,480
two people, they're like, look, 
we handed the country over and 

906
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,560
we got attacked, you know, So 
when you all I mean is I wish 

907
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,080
people were a little bit more 
false flag pill, like just a 

908
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,360
little bit like because I I just
have a feeling the people who 

909
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,600
are trusting the plan will buy 
into the false flag. 

910
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,800
If that does happen, we'll just 
go, yeah, we absolutely got 

911
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,360
attacked. 
You know what I mean by by this?

912
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,040
You know, even though there's 
been wars that are literally 

913
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,920
started on from false flags, I 
mean, you, yeah, there's been 

914
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,920
plenty of them for like a long 
time. 

915
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,960
I mean you, I forget what the 
one was the was it Spanish 

916
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,400
American? 
The one that was with the ship 

917
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,240
getting sunk? 
Like you think of the Gulf of 

918
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:43,240
Tonkin, right? 
Is that no? 

919
00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:45,480
No, no, no. 
Before that, yes, that too 

920
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,720
night. 
I'm not again. 

921
00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:50,440
Not that there was a ship that 
that I think it was Spanish 

922
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,080
American that there was a ship 
that got there like they sunk 

923
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,920
our ship. 
It turns out it was a call was 

924
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,600
coming from inside the house. 
You know, Franz Ferdinand too, 

925
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,000
in a way. 
Like, I don't know if that's a 

926
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,400
false flag, but you there's a 
lot, there's weird pair of 

927
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,760
political theories about that. 
I just know some. 

928
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,920
Look, I'm a little conspiracy 
brained. 

929
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,840
I haven't been working in 10 
months and I'm reading like 

930
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,560
postmodernist conspiracy novels.
So Bear. 

931
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,880
With me, Bear. 
With me, guys like bear with me 

932
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,160
and I'm not. 
And what I hate is people that 

933
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,720
talk about counter signaling and
stuff, they pick the lowest 

934
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:21,600
common denominator and say this 
is who you are. 

935
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,560
When you say anything in that 
thing, you're you're this 

936
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,000
screeching Lib talk, you know, 
and I go, I haven't, I'm just 

937
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,520
talking regular to people like 
like you got to be able to you 

938
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,480
got to be able to at least 
explain this to me who actually 

939
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,400
like wants this to be what you 
want it to be, you know, like, 

940
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,520
yeah, it's tells. 
Me yeah just like at least at 

941
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,840
least give me some credit and 
like and it kind of goes back to

942
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,080
what we were talking about in 
the beginning just like, you 

943
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:50,080
know I'm not trying to like I 
don't have like a white board to

944
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,480
my right that you guys can see 
it has like my take on every 

945
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,920
issue it's like, oh, this is my 
most based thing I can say about

946
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,520
issue and that one it's like, 
no, I'm just a guy trying to 

947
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,840
like like figure out like I'm 
just trying to navigate this 

948
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,600
stuff man and it's like if we 
don't have room to kind of 

949
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,040
stumble, then it's like then I 
don't know, maybe it's not quite

950
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,840
this bad, but it's like you 
almost might as well be on the 

951
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:09,800
left. 
You're right, if you're just 

952
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,480
getting like policed like that, 
you know what I mean? 

953
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,440
And so, yeah, dude, there's got 
to be some room for that stuff. 

954
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:20,880
And and yeah, like, I like war 
is one of those things that I 

955
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,640
think like the people sometimes 
have to like dig their heels in 

956
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,960
on and go like, no, for real. 
No, no, we're not doing this 

957
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,640
like, because it's, it's like, 
like you said, you know, there's

958
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,920
some, some libs who might be 
draped in the Israeli flag and 

959
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,920
there's like war is like more 
like bipartisan than a lot of 

960
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:37,920
issues are, you know what I 
mean? 

961
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,720
So it's like they're, they're, I
mean, and on, on maybe a more 

962
00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:43,480
hopeful note, I do think 
something that's good about 

963
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,320
Trump is that he wants people to
like him. 

964
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,600
And I think he, he wants, I 
think he wants his base to like 

965
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:50,680
him. 
And I think that makes him 

966
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,360
responsive to his base. 
And that might mean that like, 

967
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,480
So what what can get called 
counter signaling, Counter 

968
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,040
signaling. 
Maybe that's just people trying 

969
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,560
to like, steer the ship a little
bit. 

970
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,600
That's what I'm and that's a 
good ecosystem. 

971
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:02,840
Like that's what I mean, let it 
happen. 

972
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,360
Let these guys like Massey be 
like, hey, bro, like I'm like 

973
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,040
kind of on your like at least in
your side, people would say he's

974
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,400
an enemy. 
I I don't think he is. 

975
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,320
I think he's just like literally
like, hey, a few couple 

976
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:14,800
questions here. 
Like, what are we doing? 

977
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,960
Like we, we thought we said that
like explain it to him because 

978
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,480
it's easier to explain it to 
somebody who like wants. 

979
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,720
I mean, I don't think Thomas 
Massey wanted Kamala Harris to 

980
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:24,440
win at all. 
Like, I don't, I don't think 

981
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,000
that I, I like, like explain it 
to him, you know, like, like 

982
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,600
instead of using this guy as a 
sacrificial lamb, you know, like

983
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,000
this is a guy in politics very 
loved in his state. 

984
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,280
Like, I think he runs like 
people literally don't oppose 

985
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,440
him in his state when he runs. 
Like they're just like this guy 

986
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,120
in Kentucky. 
Like they love him. 

987
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,640
He's very beloved over there. 
And there's a lot of people who 

988
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,760
came to Trump through guys like 
Mass, like literally like people

989
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,520
who just didn't vote. 
So yeah, yeah, you can appease 

990
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,320
one base. 
And I think try I think Trump is

991
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:53,880
always campaigning. 
That's one thing about Trump. 

992
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,920
He's always campaigning. 
I even though he literally can't

993
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,680
be president again, like he I 
think he's still is in campaign 

994
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,040
mode where he's like, all right,
I got those people want this, 

995
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,320
these people want this like, you
know, weighs his options. 

996
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,080
I genuinely like like a lot of 
the stuff he was doing because, 

997
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:14,040
you know, like just to me, I my 
problem is, is like also here's 

998
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,520
my here's my last problem with 
that. 

999
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,520
I mean, I think it's safe to say
none of us want a war with Iran.

1000
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,520
Like I think it's safe to say we
can put a button in that. 

1001
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,400
But my other thing with with 
this is have you noticed that 

1002
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,960
there's this weird like time 
manipulation thing that happens 

1003
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:31,400
with like news, the news cycle 
like, OK, in the last week 

1004
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,120
there's been the No Kings 
protests and the Iran stuff in 

1005
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,440
the last week, it's been a week.
Jesus Christ. 

1006
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,200
Yeah, that's crazy. 
Oh, it's weird. 

1007
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,120
So in the concept of a lot of us
getting this information on our 

1008
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:45,120
phones, I think now the phone is
the main source of news, right? 

1009
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,080
I think we can we could say that
like only the boomers have the 

1010
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,560
loud Jake Tapper yelling TV like
that. 

1011
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,080
Look for right now, most people 
are getting but your phone, you 

1012
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,640
notice like you're like, damn, I
wasted two hours on my phone and

1013
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,960
went by really fast. 
You're like, but conversely, I 

1014
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,400
was searching, I was looking at 
discourse around top fix that 

1015
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,280
slow time down and stretch it 
out. 

1016
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,600
Like it was really strange. 
Every day feels like a crazy 

1017
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,920
event like that that happens, 
even though it's kind of not 

1018
00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:13,040
like and and I just hate that. 
Like I bogged beef said it 

1019
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,400
perfectly about the I the 
protests about people who were 

1020
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,000
like, go out there and mow them 
down. 

1021
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,200
Trump fucking National Guard. 
Like, you know, he was like, 

1022
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:20,920
dude, it's been fucking four 
months. 

1023
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:24,920
Like like he's like, it doesn't.
And I I forgot that it had or 

1024
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,080
five months, whatever. 
Like, And so I, I was just, I 

1025
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,520
hate the, because that's the 
Michael Crichton state of fear 

1026
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,840
model, right? 
Like that's, that's the, the 

1027
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,960
constant fear. 
Even if you, you're not going to

1028
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,640
steer that machine the right 
way, like a lot of time, like 

1029
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,960
it's really tough for you to 
like harness that machine and 

1030
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,200
use it your way because the 
fear, it's got to be panic on 

1031
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,960
all sides constantly. 
And that's not always good if 

1032
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,640
you're actually like on one 
side, you know. 

1033
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,840
And so I was, I thought that I 
thought that was, I just noticed

1034
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,920
that like a lot. 
I was like, that was a week. 

1035
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,720
I mean, tariffs. 
Tariffs. 

1036
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,640
How long ago was tariffs? 
Yeah, Yeah, we were trading, I 

1037
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,560
was. 7. 
Yeah, I was in first. 

1038
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,400
Grade when tariffs happened. 
Yeah, no, I don't. 

1039
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,200
I wish that now that was a weird
one. 

1040
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,280
People freaked out about 
tariffs. 

1041
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,000
I'm like, you have no clue 
what's going to happen. 

1042
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,160
Yeah, like literally no one 
does. 

1043
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,960
And I, and to be fair, even the 
geopolitics I don't have, I 

1044
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,320
don't know what's going to 
happen. 

1045
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,480
So I just I don't like when 
people are so sure of 

1046
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,840
themselves, so confident in 
their evaluations, especially 

1047
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,120
when you can just delete shit. 
So it's like, all right, well, 

1048
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,560
you know, you deleted that, you 
know, or whatever. 

1049
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,040
And. 
I like. 

1050
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:33,200
So it's just, it's just, it's 
that part to me bothers me a lot

1051
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,040
is how like the time 
manipulation of the news cycle. 

1052
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,720
I, I've, it's been that way 
since Trump got elected. 

1053
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:40,600
I don't know. 
But it's just, he's just a guy 

1054
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,200
you can do it around very easily
because he's very polarizing. 

1055
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,640
But yeah, I, I, I, I really, I, 
I had stepped away that weekend 

1056
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,880
when the No King stuff was 
happening and I was like, wow, 

1057
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,440
this is like time is moving at a
different pace right now than 

1058
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,440
when I'm like in my regular 
life. 

1059
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,200
And yeah, like as long as we're 
shutting our good old boys, like

1060
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,680
I think like, you know, Merrick 
said about, about the Iran 

1061
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,560
stuff, he's like, you know, 
winning for me means never 

1062
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:04,840
having to think about this 
again. 

1063
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,760
And and so it's like, yeah, just
just, yeah, the the, the amount 

1064
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,360
of like the, the number of takes
and the amount of information 

1065
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,960
that we're like constantly 
taking in is like probably not 

1066
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,520
super healthy, right? 
Like that. 

1067
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,920
Like the weird way the time 
feels, it feels like it kind of 

1068
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,200
feels like nothing's happening, 
but it feels like a ton of shit 

1069
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,320
is happening really fast. 
And like, I wonder if that's 

1070
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,760
like, I don't know, like kind of
unhealthy, you know what I mean?

1071
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,680
Yeah. 
Absolutely, yeah, I I know, I 

1072
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,800
think and then, you know, like 
kind of kind of just the the 

1073
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,120
whole idea of I wanted to put a 
pin on like the kind of like 

1074
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:44,280
homogeneous thought that happens
in circles where I think people 

1075
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,320
are actually really smart and 
it's kind of disappointing. 

1076
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,760
I think this kind of like 
company laminated company rules 

1077
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,320
on the wall kind of thing. 
I just really, really don't like

1078
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,920
that is I have to shout out to 
my guy, one of the greatest 

1079
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,320
thinkers of all time, Michael 
Crichton. 

1080
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,320
He outsmarted Terence McKenna 
one time, which that's more time

1081
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:01,720
than anybody else has. 
That's. 

1082
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,600
Crazy. 
OK, well. 

1083
00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:05,600
I'm, I'm, I'm joking a little 
bit. 

1084
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,160
Terence McKenna is an optimist. 
I think Terence Mckenna's 

1085
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,240
biggest problem, and I'll 
explain the dynamic here in a 

1086
00:49:11,240 --> 00:49:13,800
second, but Terence McKenna was 
a he had a beautiful view of 

1087
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,120
humanity because if I was as 
smart as him and as chill out as

1088
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,840
him and fucking had the set up 
as him, I'd love life. 

1089
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,800
Dude, if he cares about cancer, 
fuck, kill me. 

1090
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,840
I don't care. 
Like, you know, like life's just

1091
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:28,960
starting, you know, and then but
anyways, his idea and, and this 

1092
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,360
was the reason I found out about
this, was he, Terence McKenna 

1093
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,840
was on coast to coast one time 
with Art Bell many, many years 

1094
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,320
ago. 
And he basically Art Bell had 

1095
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:42,520
said, Michael Crichton said that
when the Internet, it was right 

1096
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,560
during the early Internet and 
everyone was predicting what the

1097
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,920
Internet was going to be. 
And Mike and Terence Mckenna's 

1098
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,240
response to this, I'll say his 
response before I say what 

1099
00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:52,560
Michael Crichton's was, is he 
thinks the Internet is going to 

1100
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,160
lead to the scattering of 
information everywhere to where 

1101
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,760
no one can pin you down, right? 
Because everyone's going to have

1102
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,440
their own ideas. 
And so nobody's going to know 

1103
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,880
where the group of this people 
is and the group of it. 

1104
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,040
And it's going to be like, like 
everybody using their minds and 

1105
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,160
like a spiritual way to create, 
you know, all this stuff. 

1106
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,960
And Michael Crichton, the whole 
thing was, he says, Nope, People

1107
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,520
will literally turn into like 
schools of fish on the Internet 

1108
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,880
and like, they will all 
consolidate into one thing. 

1109
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,960
And I, I think about that every 
time these types of things 

1110
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,680
happen is I'm like, wow, not to 
just toot his horn more than I 

1111
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,720
normally do, but I was like, 
that's, that's probably true. 

1112
00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:29,800
And this is in the early 
Internet days, like like where 

1113
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,320
we really didn't know. 
And I'm like there it, it's 

1114
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,120
tough because like I, I just 
know. 

1115
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,400
And I and my mother in law's in 
town right now. 

1116
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:42,200
She's a 64 year old woman who 
has been voting Republican her 

1117
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,480
entire life. 
Is, does not have, have an 

1118
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,320
aesthetics account on Twitter. 
Roman aesthetics account doesn't

1119
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,080
do any of that. 
Doesn't know any black Pilling, 

1120
00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:55,920
red Pilling, doesn't know what 
at least I think if I get a 

1121
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,400
reply. 
If I get a reply saying it's 

1122
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,840
been 2 hours since you've eaten 
and you need to drink water then

1123
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,120
from a non grouper account I'll 
know where that is. 

1124
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:09,440
But anyways, she, she said she, 
she, she got the alert. 

1125
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:10,960
She's here, we're, we're doing 
some stuff here. 

1126
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,960
And she, she, she got the alert.
She's like, Oh my gosh, they 

1127
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,800
bombed like they, they dropped 
bombs on the Iran missile site. 

1128
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,080
She was, I hate that like that. 
And I don't, she's not like a 

1129
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,360
pacifist pacifist. 
Like I think she's like, OK, 

1130
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,080
when things have to happen, 
things have to happen. 

1131
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,200
She's like, I really didn't want
to do that. 

1132
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:26,960
She said, I hate what Israel's 
doing in Gaza. 

1133
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,840
Christian woman by the way, too,
not Muslims like nothing like 

1134
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,160
just just like this. 
And she and I was just thinking,

1135
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,440
I'm like, that's funny because 
like people like spurgs would 

1136
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,000
like quote, tweet her Sparks who
like converted to Republicanism 

1137
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,960
like five years ago, would like 
would coach meet her and be like

1138
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:48,120
fucking Boyd, you know, and like
all this shit, like just just 

1139
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,920
like RIP her to shreds. 
This is a woman who voted for 

1140
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,720
Ronald Reagan, like every like 
literally straight ticket 

1141
00:51:52,720 --> 00:51:55,920
Republican her whole life, but 
would still still found a way to

1142
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,040
go. 
Man, I don't like that. 

1143
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,840
So I'm like, this is a uniquely 
online behavior. 

1144
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,200
That's why I leaned to the 
Michael Crichton. 

1145
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:06,320
Yeah, McKenna was short or was 
right in the short term during 

1146
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:11,000
that golden age of Internet. 
And I do think I he, he might in

1147
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,400
the long run, it might, I think,
you know, I think we sometimes 

1148
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,520
lose sight of the forest of the 
trees with the Internet. 

1149
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,640
But at the same time, it's hard.
It there is still the beauty 

1150
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,640
there. 
There is still I got I think I 

1151
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,400
know David Wolf says this David 
avocado wolf shout out. 

1152
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,560
He's like shut out. 
We were literally on our last 

1153
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,000
dying breath as humanity and 
then the Internet came and the 

1154
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,360
Internet saved us. 
And I'm like, that is 

1155
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,880
optimistic. 
And I'm like, I kind of agree. 

1156
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,920
You know, I think there's a lot 
of growing pains, but I mean, 

1157
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,080
crying. 
He he just knew about human 

1158
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,880
nature, do well. 
Well, Terence Mckenna's Terence 

1159
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,480
McKenna viewed that question as 
if, if ever, If the world was 

1160
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,560
filled with Terence McKenna, how
would the Internet work? 

1161
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:48,840
Yeah. 
Yeah, exactly. 

1162
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,640
Michael Crichton's like, the 
world is simply not filled with 

1163
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:52,640
people like me. 
Yeah. 

1164
00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:55,600
Therefore, you know, like. 
Yeah, Terence. 

1165
00:52:55,720 --> 00:52:59,960
McKenna was like a Berkeley grad
philosophist, like philosophy 

1166
00:52:59,960 --> 00:53:01,920
student, like that's literally 
who he was in the 60s. 

1167
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,520
It was just. 
Me and my Bros, man yeah, yeah, 

1168
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,240
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
And, and right, I think Crichton

1169
00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:11,800
was, you know, you're looking at
a three-year window to like the 

1170
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,880
30 year maximalist window where 
he was just like, yeah, not 

1171
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:19,320
everyone's going to flock to, 
you know, the the popular take 

1172
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,800
still like even if they, they 
find this new uncharted land 

1173
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,160
where they can be themselves, 
like it does happen so. 

1174
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,640
In like to, to Mckenna's point, 
like I and I haven't read 

1175
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:34,040
McKenna in a very long time, but
like, I do think, yeah, I think 

1176
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,080
of like, like the Internet or 
like Twitter, for example, as 

1177
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,520
like a tool that like if you use
the tool right, then you can 

1178
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:43,720
like find your shit and you can 
find like, like your unique 

1179
00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:45,960
perspective and you can kind of 
like enrich that. 

1180
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,720
Like you can kind of like water 
that garden with the things that

1181
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:51,840
Twitter gives you. 
But it's just like it's, that 

1182
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,160
takes like a kind of conscious, 
deliberate effort. 

1183
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,520
You have to like seize it and 
really like think about how it's

1184
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,800
impacting you. 
Because if you, if you let it 

1185
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,960
seize you, like what Prince 
said, dude, Prince said. 

1186
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,800
Like it's OK to get on the 
computer. 

1187
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,160
You just can't let the computer 
get on you. 

1188
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,480
You know you're getting. 
On the computer. 

1189
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,840
And not the other way around 
then like you can, it can be 

1190
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,680
enriching, I think in the way 
that McKenna said. 

1191
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,360
But it's like a lot of people 
just like, let the algorithm 

1192
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,680
just kind of like, like blow 
them over and then they just end

1193
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,200
up being like whatever they feel
expected would be, you know? 

1194
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,840
Yeah, I would kill. 
I would kill to have just his 

1195
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,680
printed out search history for 
like. 

1196
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,120
Yeah. 
For like like printed in like X 

1197
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:32,960
Philip K Dick exegesis form yeah
just like I mean yeah, he would 

1198
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,760
have some crazy shit and be like
damn dude, you were looking at 

1199
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,960
that shit like my. 
Prince is like, don't put my 

1200
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:38,720
songs on there though, don't 
fucking. 

1201
00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:41,640
Yeah, Whatever you do, don't. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

1202
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,240
That's hilarious. 
Yeah. 

1203
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:45,800
I I, I don't know. 
I I just. 

1204
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,640
Yeah, but so before we pivot. 
I'm grateful for every. 

1205
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:53,480
I'm grateful for the last after 
2020 to, you know, to not to 

1206
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,920
make it in purely electoral 
terms, but from 2020 to 2024, 

1207
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:58,480
like, what the fuck was that? 
Yeah, you know. 

1208
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,200
I still like where we're at. 
That's my thing. 

1209
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:01,640
Like I still like where we're 
at. 

1210
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,200
I'm just like, I'm trying to 
like, I don't want to be the guy

1211
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,280
that's like, well, it could 
always be worse. 

1212
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,560
So I have to like this and I'm 
like, that's, that's, that's not

1213
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,680
what that's not the the trade 
off right now. 

1214
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,840
It's like a little bit of like, 
that's not really the trade off 

1215
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:18,000
right now, Like, and and I'm not
I'm not in any way danger in 

1216
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,600
danger of voting Democrat. 
So there's no like, right? 

1217
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,040
You know what I'm like give. 
Me some credit here, you know? 

1218
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,000
Yeah. 
That's all it is like I'm not in

1219
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,920
a so anything I'm saying I'm not
going like I we're going to talk

1220
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,000
about this Democrat like what 
they're doing right now just in 

1221
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,440
a second, because it's it's just
it's insane. 

1222
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,800
By the way, before guys, I'm 
supposed to get better at this 

1223
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,920
before we move on here. 
Just make sure you make sure you

1224
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,520
rate and review wherever you're 
listening. 

1225
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,000
That really, really helps 
Spotify, all that. 

1226
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,880
So leave comments. 
I don't care any anything like 

1227
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:46,800
that. 
You can even be mean. 

1228
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,520
I don't care. 
But just just the reviews, 5 

1229
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,720
stars, please. 
But the comments, you can be 

1230
00:55:51,720 --> 00:55:54,800
mean, I guess. 
But yeah, just check that out. 

1231
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,080
We're on YouTube too. 
And then rare 

1232
00:55:56,080 --> 00:56:26,090
candy.substack.com. 
What's this guy's name? 

1233
00:56:26,250 --> 00:56:28,050
Fucking Zohan. 
Don't mess with Zohan. 

1234
00:56:29,490 --> 00:56:32,770
Yeah, yeah. 
I don't know his name. 

1235
00:56:33,090 --> 00:56:36,930
He's running for the Democratic.
He's in the Democratic mayor 

1236
00:56:37,090 --> 00:56:41,560
primary against Andrew Cuomo 
right now, which is just, it's 

1237
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,560
like, dude, it's like 20. 
Like so your choice is in New 

1238
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,240
York right now because they're 
going to get a Democrat mayor. 

1239
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,960
The choices in New York City 
right now are the guy who 

1240
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,280
crowded the fucking homes with 
intern basically just made 

1241
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,200
Auschwitz for old people during 
COVID. 

1242
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:01,960
And then or the guy who's like, 
I think we need 87 apartment 

1243
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:06,320
complexes in this beautiful 
forest and like, and he's like, 

1244
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:10,360
I also used to rap. 
Oh, yeah, you've never heard 

1245
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:11,200
about that dude. 
Oh, my. 

1246
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:12,880
Look, those are your choices in 
New York right now. 

1247
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,560
Like that. 
That's like it's a base city 

1248
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,680
I've heard. 
It's crazy that Cuomo's like, 

1249
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,280
yeah, imagine, imagine 2021. 
Someone telling you like Cuomo 

1250
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:22,600
actually will be the better 
choice dude. 

1251
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,760
I literally when they said 
Cuomo's right, I thought it was 

1252
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,880
the fucking CNN one. 
I thought they were going to 

1253
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,360
like run. 
I thought they were going to run

1254
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,560
him like, and they were like, 
well, not his brother, but we'll

1255
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,280
just literally it's a family 
thing. 

1256
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,360
Like we'll just do the other one
like Eli Manning and shit. 

1257
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,240
Yeah, And that's why I thought. 
I was going to have it because 

1258
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,800
the New York Giants, dude, just.
Quarterback What I what I find 

1259
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:45,440
funny is about this is, is like 
this guy is just like 

1260
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,240
unapologetically like a 
socialist communist guy, this 

1261
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:53,960
Zoran guy, but like, and it's 
totally it's not like in a Lenin

1262
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,960
way, like he's, he's like 
totally like a rich like Dubai 

1263
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:02,960
Emirates kid, just like doing a 
passion project right now, you 

1264
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,320
know, like where it's like, I 
just, I fucking I want houses 

1265
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,640
everywhere, man. 
Like, you know, just just just 

1266
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,760
total vapid rich guy like Bret 
Easton Ellis character stuff 

1267
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,400
like, like, like you hear him 
like explaining his stuff like 

1268
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,280
Patrick Bateman, like you could 
just like, you could just like 

1269
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,680
picturing when you when he's 
talking. 

1270
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,400
And I realized like, I was like,
wow, I didn't realize what the 

1271
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,640
demand was for another Bernie 
Sanders. 

1272
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:27,040
Like I really, I really, I, I 
didn't realize people really 

1273
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:28,760
want that again. 
And, and it's even better this 

1274
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,720
time because it's not a white 
like for them. 

1275
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:36,040
Yeah, it's Vincent Gallows, the 
brown Bernie dude they're 

1276
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,000
getting. 
They want this guy, like, really

1277
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,400
bad. 
Fucking Nick Mullen I saw. 

1278
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,040
It pains me because I've always 
known he was like a leftist and 

1279
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:48,640
all that stuff and open time 
like whatever. 

1280
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,800
Very, very big fan back in the 
day and it's fine. 

1281
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,120
Just fucking don't do that. 
Like just please don't do that. 

1282
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,920
Like he's. 
He's the guy, he's out of those 

1283
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,480
three, he's the one that's not 
supposed to be doing that, you 

1284
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:02,800
know what I mean? 
Like he's the one that's 

1285
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,840
supposed to like kind of avoid 
that whole trap, you know? 

1286
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,160
And if whatever other guys want 
to do that, that's fine. 

1287
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,560
But, but with this, with this 
dude, it's like, it's always 

1288
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,960
scary when a guy or like, yeah, 
like usually like a rich guy or 

1289
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:21,520
whatever, or girl who clearly is
like has some like hustle 

1290
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:25,480
mentality and, and a vision, but
also has never worked a real job

1291
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,480
in their life. 
It's like very scary, you know? 

1292
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,200
And you're, yeah. 
And it's 'cause he's clearly 

1293
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,920
like got some like visual 
aesthetic. 

1294
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:32,960
Have you? 
What about? 

1295
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,960
What about the What about your 
Mango Mussolini? 

1296
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:39,760
How many real jobs did he have? 
Oh man. 

1297
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,640
Anyways. 
Yeah, like that's. 

1298
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,480
A real That's a real one. 
I've heard that one. 

1299
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:49,640
That's a real 1. 
Yeah, it sounds like Kush, dude.

1300
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,720
It sounds like Kush. 
Yeah, it. 

1301
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,640
Does, yeah. 
Sounds like I bought that at the

1302
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,760
dispensary though. 
I bought some Mango Mussolini 

1303
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,440
fucking. 
It's a 75% hybrid. 

1304
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,360
Sativa, yeah, definitely Indica,
yeah. 

1305
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:08,600
But yeah, anyways, no, this guy,
yeah, you were saying the the 

1306
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,520
rich guy. 
The, the like what you said 

1307
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,600
about how people want another 
Bernie, like that's what I 

1308
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,280
thought here. 
I was like, cuz like, it seems 

1309
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,200
to me like he's kind of just a, 
like a Chapo tard kind of thing 

1310
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,760
or something like that. 
And I, and I just thought, I 

1311
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:23,680
thought that car was kind of out
of gas. 

1312
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,600
Like I thought that we, I 
thought people saw that like the

1313
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:28,600
Bernie thing didn't really work,
you know, because it's like, you

1314
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,720
voted for Bernie and then he 
stole a bunch of your donation 

1315
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,040
money and just like told you to 
vote for Kamala or Joe Biden. 

1316
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,760
Like the thing didn't work. 
You guys like, and I just, I'm 

1317
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,440
amazed that there's like still 
this is like something they just

1318
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,800
want to try again. 
I thought it was kind of over, 

1319
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,080
you know what I mean? 
They're not creative people. 

1320
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:49,720
Is the thing, Yeah, Yeah. 
Well, creativity is a symptom of

1321
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,400
capitalism. 
It's really you're not even 

1322
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,840
being creative. 
It's just, it's just your 

1323
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,280
reaction to the capitalist 
hellscape you live in too. 

1324
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,680
So that's why. 
Because like, there was a big 

1325
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,280
thing. 
There was a big thing, I don't 

1326
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,760
know New York very well. 
So but it just looked beautiful,

1327
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,640
like it looked like a part that 
it was like this Elizabeth Gart 

1328
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,920
Saint Elizabeth Gart is 
beautiful like historic thing. 

1329
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,920
They asked Cuomo like would you 
build affordable housing there? 

1330
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,240
And he's like, no, like that's 
place rules. 

1331
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,560
Like what are you talking about?
Like I fucking love that place. 

1332
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:21,320
I literally know and and then 
this guy goes to bulldoze it 

1333
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:26,000
like fucking ASAP because I 
that's always what I've always 

1334
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:29,360
hated the like roller coaster 
Tycoon leftist like Geocity, 

1335
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:30,400
like or not Geo. 
What's that? 

1336
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,480
What was that called? 
SIM cities or yeah, SIM cities, 

1337
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,120
SIM cities like, like the people
who just like they're like, and 

1338
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,480
right here click, you were going
to put this fucking massive coin

1339
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,120
operated washing machine store 
for this, but they and they, 

1340
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,080
they just go it's easy. 
You just build a Blade Runner 

1341
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:43,800
city. 
It's easy. 

1342
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,160
It's fucking easy. 
Like that's, that's what you do.

1343
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:50,800
And and I've always hated that, 
like because I was just like, 

1344
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:55,480
dude, that the quality of life 
sucks when you do that and it's 

1345
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:57,520
all meant to accommodate. 
Like it's all meant to 

1346
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,840
accommodate. 
Like, I'm sorry, not Americans. 

1347
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:01,520
They're not putting homeless 
people in those houses. 

1348
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,200
They're people might want that 
like in platitude form. 

1349
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,120
It's not that's not what's going
to happen. 

1350
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,040
It's literally going to be 
immigrant stuff and that you 

1351
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,920
know to put say what I was 
talking about to the last even 

1352
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:18,000
about the Iran war possibility 
or anything that always leads to

1353
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,360
more immigration by. 
The way, yeah. 

1354
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,120
That's the other thing. 
It's like that literally always 

1355
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,040
does. 
But not for one specific 

1356
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:26,560
country, just all the other 
ones. 

1357
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,240
Yeah. 
So I just mean that's the other 

1358
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,160
thing. 
That's my last point on that. 

1359
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,000
And I just have to says it's 
just basically like with New 

1360
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,600
York, they're like, no, no, no 
guys. 

1361
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,360
That's always their when you ask
people for immigration, like 

1362
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:38,880
what's your plan? 
When you ask like a leftist, 

1363
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,480
they're like literally more 
houses, you fuck. 

1364
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,240
And they, they say it in this 
way where it's like you ask them

1365
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,480
like, hey, like is like if you 
showed up to work naked and 

1366
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:48,680
you're like, do I have clothes 
on? 

1367
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,640
Like, you know, and you're just 
like, you're unironically like a

1368
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,080
vagrant. 
Like that's how they respond to 

1369
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,560
you build more houses. 
You you, you give them free 

1370
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,880
things like you do that. 
That's what you are you are you 

1371
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:02,000
OK? 
Like they do that shit and and 

1372
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,400
you're just like no, are you OK?
This sucks, nobody. 

1373
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,040
Like this? 
And and that's why they're 

1374
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,640
really territorial about online 
spaces because it's the only 

1375
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,640
place that shit flies. 
Like if you say that to people a

1376
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,600
lot of times like out, like I 
will say like if you said that 

1377
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,600
to like this like person, they 
go, yeah, that sounds horrible, 

1378
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:18,840
dude. 
That's a horrible idea. 

1379
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:22,120
Like I would hate that. 
And that's why online, like it's

1380
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,000
I, I don't like those 
communities, they eventually 

1381
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,040
like all look the same at that 
point, those online communities 

1382
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,480
where you just cannot say 
otherwise, like you, you can't 

1383
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,360
like your final plan needs to 
just be housing upon housing on 

1384
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:35,280
housing. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1385
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,880
Yeah, it's the same, Yeah. 
Yeah, you can't say that to 

1386
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,440
these people. 
These people need it's I'm just,

1387
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,520
I'm not an expansion guy. 
I think that's what it is. 

1388
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,160
I'm like, I think we're good. 
You know, I look around and I'm 

1389
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:47,520
like, I think we're pretty good 
dude. 

1390
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:51,400
And I understand we will expand,
but like these people just want 

1391
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:55,680
like they want to just 
absolutely chase out all of Wall

1392
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:59,080
Street, right? 
Chase out all of that, which I 

1393
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:02,600
OK, I was 22 once. 
I know, I know, I know. 

1394
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,440
I guys, I've done that. 
You know, it's like, I get that 

1395
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,000
they want to leave. 
Basically take New York and say 

1396
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,520
New York is this very rich city.
It's a like for I guess I mean 

1397
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,680
that literally and figuratively.
It's got a lot of money. 

1398
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:15,560
It's big rich history and 
everything. 

1399
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:17,560
The money comes from the people 
you hate. 

1400
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,720
I'm just letting you know that 
like in New York, so the thing 

1401
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:24,000
you say you have money to pay 
for, they're not going to pay 

1402
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,680
for it. 
They're going to go to. 

1403
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,360
I saw somebody, I forget who it 
was, somebody who was like, it's

1404
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,680
going to be if I was the mayor 
of I think it was Pine Barrens, 

1405
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,200
the Pine Barren account. 
That guy's really funny. 

1406
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:36,000
He said. 
He said, I if I was the mayor of

1407
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,080
Miami or like even DeSantis or 
something, I'd be the top donor 

1408
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,120
to Zoron so I could just get all
the Wall Street people to come 

1409
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:43,760
to Florida. 
Dude. 

1410
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,680
Yeah, yeah. 
It was like he's like, he's 

1411
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:49,120
like, it's, it's literally going
to it would if that guy got his 

1412
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:50,920
way. 
The Wall Street people aren't 

1413
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:52,800
going to be like, oh, guess 
we're doing socialism now. 

1414
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:54,880
You know, I want to I kind of 
weird. 

1415
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,560
Yeah, yeah. 
Part of me is because, like, I 

1416
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:01,000
don't really, I'm not connected 
to New York and I don't, you 

1417
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,480
know, I've been there a handful 
of times in my life. 

1418
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:04,880
It's gay. 
I mean, it's gay, let's be real.

1419
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:06,880
It's yeah. 
And I, well, I'm just, I kind of

1420
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:09,280
want to see what happens if he's
I. 

1421
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,680
Literally want to see. 
But I do, but I do. 

1422
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:15,120
And I do have a lot of respect 
for like Anna Kay and those 

1423
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,640
guys. 
And you know, and I do, I do 

1424
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,160
love seeing how they are just 
completely like, this guy's a 

1425
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,040
fucking idiot. 
Like they're, you know, they're 

1426
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:25,440
just not letting it go, you 
know, And I, I, they come props 

1427
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,000
to them for that. 
But I mean, don't you just want 

1428
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,880
to see a little bit what it 
would be like, I think? 

1429
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:31,840
I think we will. 
I think he's going to win. 

1430
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,040
What's the Poly markets? 
You know that crazy where you 

1431
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:36,960
can bet on like the most random 
shit that's. 

1432
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,080
That's flipped. 
That's well, he's going against 

1433
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,880
the guy who got me tooed. 
So even Democrats, I, I mean, 

1434
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,840
they, I, I people say otherwise 
because there was that like Tara

1435
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:47,480
Reid, Joe Biden thing a long 
time. 

1436
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,680
Ago, but like, yeah. 
So like when push comes to 

1437
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,360
shove, they might. 
But if there's like a left like 

1438
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:56,080
a AOC tier Pearson that didn't 
get me tooed, you know, or 

1439
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,040
something like that, they might 
like he might get some of the 

1440
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,600
like pig, you know, votes like 
he might get that. 

1441
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,040
Art Ho wife like the Art Hoes 
might like him. 

1442
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:08,240
You know that would. 
Be man yeah, they're real and it

1443
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,840
was it was just like I just 
didn't realize and again, like a

1444
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,920
lot of like a lot of people the 
leftist ISIS, they are like the 

1445
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,720
parapolitical kind that like I 
don't know how they feel about 

1446
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:18,760
that. 
Maybe they like them, maybe they

1447
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,440
don't, but like that just like 
the died and like the real, 

1448
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,200
like, just like leftist people 
that you see on the Internet and

1449
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,720
like, and just out there. 
And yeah, I see them in like big

1450
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:28,320
cities too, where they just, 
they're, they're just like, 

1451
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,080
yeah. 
So like I see people like, you 

1452
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,720
know, camp canvassing form. 
They have that same crazy 

1453
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:36,840
excitement for him. 
And I was like, oh, and I don't 

1454
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:38,880
cuz I don't like, I live in 
California and it's always a 

1455
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:40,560
common thing like nuke 
California. 

1456
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,080
I'm like, hey, all right, I live
here. 

1457
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:44,160
It's kind of cool. 
You should come out. 

1458
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,240
It's pretty fun. 
But but with New York, I am 

1459
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:50,440
like, it would be kind of funny.
It would be kind of funny if you

1460
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,360
guys, we did, we did have a 
Chapo guy in San Francisco. 

1461
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,080
He was a Chapo guy. 
I think he was, I think he was a

1462
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,200
guest on their show once before 
it even happened. 

1463
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,760
Like his name was Chesa Boudin. 
And he was just, he was just 

1464
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:03,480
straight up. 
I don't live in San Francisco, 

1465
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,240
but I followed it very well. 
It was the guy was just like, 

1466
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,240
just steal, dude. 
Fuck Walgreens. 

1467
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:12,520
Like, basically, yeah. 
He was like, dude, toothpaste, 

1468
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,160
everyone. 
Toothpaste should be free. 

1469
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,160
So and so should. 
So should everything at 

1470
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:21,720
Walgreens like. 
Zoron is like, I saw it because,

1471
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:23,480
you know, you guys know that 
show where, like, some guy on, 

1472
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,480
like, the New York subway, like,
interviews people. 

1473
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,200
Yeah. 
Oh, with the with the car, Yeah,

1474
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:32,160
I before you go on, I was the 
other. 

1475
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,000
There was another thing that 
showed up in mass on my timeline

1476
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,960
was Italian disco, like dirtbag 
left looking guys that were like

1477
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:40,120
hipster guys doing Italian disco
DJ ING. 

1478
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:41,400
Oh, it'll it'll come to yours. 
Watch. 

1479
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,280
And I I thought that's what that
was. 

1480
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,160
I thought they were going to 
start passing the the cards and 

1481
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:47,320
interviewing. 
I'm pretty sure it was really 

1482
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,160
weird. 
I was like, I don't this is the 

1483
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:50,360
odd. 
Anyways, you were saying that 

1484
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:51,960
that show he went, he went on 
that show. 

1485
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,240
Yeah, and, and like I watched I 
think like half of it or 

1486
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:59,320
whatever, but like, so there was
and it's interesting to see like

1487
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,120
how he's kind of playing stuff 
careful because he's not just 

1488
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:02,800
saying like, go ahead and steal 
from Walgreens because they they

1489
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:04,760
asked him about like the whole 
defund the police thing. 

1490
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:08,320
Like, and he was trying to pitch
these like, oh, I, I'm not some 

1491
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:11,600
crazy revolutionary like this. 
I just want in addition to the 

1492
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,200
police force, I want there to 
also be mental health experts 

1493
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,920
that deal with ongoing criminal 
situations. 

1494
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,399
And I was like, yeah, I think I 
kind of know what this is code 

1495
01:08:19,399 --> 01:08:20,600
for. 
And I think you're still 

1496
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,399
probably bad shit crazy. 
But it's like, but now it's like

1497
01:08:23,399 --> 01:08:26,880
he feels like he needs to kind 
of play like he's hey, I'm I'm 

1498
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,479
pretty normal. 
I'm just like a crazy or 

1499
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,640
nothing. 
And but yeah, it's it's weird 

1500
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,640
how like they they kind of but 
yeah, during the Chesapeakeen 

1501
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,680
era, like leftists were just 
like feeling themselves so much.

1502
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,200
And they're like, yeah just 
steal shit bro Fuck it. 

1503
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:40,399
Yeah, yeah. 
Well, at the end of the day, 

1504
01:08:40,399 --> 01:08:43,000
it's at the end of the day, I 
think there's an accelerationist

1505
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,720
element to them. 
Like like, like where it's like 

1506
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,640
they obviously see that it's not
good to have like blown out like

1507
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:52,040
big box stores and like, just 
like broken windows everywhere 

1508
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:53,359
crying. 
They they obviously know like 

1509
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,120
push it to show like that's not 
good. 

1510
01:08:55,279 --> 01:08:57,840
But they're like, well, that was
always meant to happen. 

1511
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,399
We're speeding it up. 
That's effectively what happens 

1512
01:09:00,399 --> 01:09:02,920
when you run a country the way 
that we do that that's going to 

1513
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,319
happen. 
So they view that as maybe this 

1514
01:09:05,319 --> 01:09:07,359
is the guy that can bring them 
to that and then maybe bring 

1515
01:09:07,359 --> 01:09:09,960
them out of it, you know, So 
like I, I think that they, 

1516
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,200
there's, that's kind of the way 
they, they view this. 

1517
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:13,840
So like, well, it was headed 
this way anyways. 

1518
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:17,720
Let's just skip the, the 25 
years or for 30 years of it. 

1519
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,720
And and you know, this is also 
something I've been saying since

1520
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,960
like the 60s and stuff too. 
So, you know, you know, it keeps

1521
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,279
getting pushed back. 
But I think a lot of people, I, 

1522
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,960
I think it's, you know, New 
York, if, if he does win in New 

1523
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,439
York, it'll New York will turn 
like hard right wing like after 

1524
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,279
like like it's, it is, it's 
actually acceleration is from 

1525
01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:35,080
the other end is what they never
fail to realize. 

1526
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,880
And like, it's always like, it's
always like, wow. 

1527
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:38,720
Yeah. 
Never again. 

1528
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:40,080
Yeah. 
This is horrible. 

1529
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,040
Yeah. 
It's like when right after Trump

1530
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,279
won and like people were like, 
like libs were like doubling and

1531
01:09:45,279 --> 01:09:46,720
tripling down and like trans 
stuff. 

1532
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,960
And like as a right wing guy, I 
was like, yeah, keep it up 

1533
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:51,600
dudes. 
You know, just like go ahead and

1534
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,560
keep doing that. 
Like it just sends people over 

1535
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:54,560
to our side and have it. 
Yeah. 

1536
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,000
Like they end up being 
acceleration. 

1537
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,200
Like they think that like, yeah,
if we break into Windows then 

1538
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,200
that'll something, something 
will happen. 

1539
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,400
And then it'll be like full 
communism right after that. 

1540
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,520
But it's like no actually just 
makes it really hate your guys 

1541
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,120
guts which works for me. 
It's a Rage Against the Machine 

1542
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:08,680
guitar riff. 
That's all it is. 

1543
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:12,840
It's all everything's have Allen
wrench on the guitar strings. 

1544
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,520
That's like the, all that they 
want to have happen. 

1545
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,040
And then afterwards, well, it 
was always meant to happen. 

1546
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:21,560
So I was just saying and, and, 
and, and it's just, I don't 

1547
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,520
know. 
I, I, it's kind of, I am like 

1548
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,280
laughing a little bit at it. 
Like I, I, because I know it's, 

1549
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,320
it's not going to lead to like 
10 other cities doing the same 

1550
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,520
thing, right? 
Like it's not because because at

1551
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,720
the end of the day, there's just
like people these places 

1552
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,880
property values pretty high 
there and people aren't going to

1553
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:41,560
like the industry itself is not 
going, which I'm actually a 

1554
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:43,880
little bit OK with sometimes 
where I'm kind of like, oh, 

1555
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,400
actually I'd like for this 
country to not be so like dense,

1556
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,640
like city dense and like stuff 
to be spread around. 

1557
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,160
Now I don't trust, you know, him
to do that. 

1558
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,120
So that's completely different 
thing. 

1559
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,880
But these people that are 
paying, you know, coming out, 

1560
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:58,280
especially it happens in the 
Bay, San Francisco, it ended 

1561
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,120
quick, man. 
I mean, they're still not, it's 

1562
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,480
still not great. 
Like, but I went back and it was

1563
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,360
as opposed to like four or five 
years ago when it was really, 

1564
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,280
really, really bad. 
I went back and you can see 

1565
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,040
there was a lot of people that 
moved out here for doing like 

1566
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,280
tech and stuff. 
And they're like, dude, I did 

1567
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,920
not come out here to live with 
like human shit piled on the 

1568
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:17,440
streets and and like needle 
scattered everywhere And, and, 

1569
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:19,680
and literally like I said, going
to a store where nothing is 

1570
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,160
there because it all got stolen.
Like, and that was happening. 

1571
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,960
Like it was like people there at
the end of the day there is like

1572
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:28,960
they're the mat, the mat. 
They, they call it mask off. 

1573
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:30,760
Like, right. 
All the people he went mask off 

1574
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,680
like and said he was, I'm just 
actually neoliberal or 

1575
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:35,080
something. 
But at the end of the day, a lot

1576
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:36,800
of people do go mask off. 
Like, yeah, actually I hate 

1577
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:38,280
crime. 
Like actually it sucks really 

1578
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,160
bad. 
And and again, the only place 

1579
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,040
that doesn't play is in their 
circle. 

1580
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:48,640
The funniest thing was 
California voting almost as far 

1581
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:53,240
unanimously as you'd get, like 
75% statewide, including all the

1582
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:58,120
liberal places to recriminalize 
stealing shit under $900 or 

1583
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,040
something where they're like, 
you know, and they're like, 

1584
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,840
yeah, it's over, it's over. 
And the San Francisco thing is 

1585
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:06,400
especially egregious because as 
far as big cities go, and San 

1586
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,320
Francisco is not a huge city, 
but, you know, it's not. 

1587
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,440
Population. 
Population wise, it is, yes. 

1588
01:12:11,480 --> 01:12:13,560
Yeah. 
And it's, but it's as far as 

1589
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,160
cities go, it's a beautiful city
compared to, I don't know, like 

1590
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:17,680
Houston or Pittsburgh or 
whatever. 

1591
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,360
And like no offense to. 
Kelby, did you hear that? 

1592
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:21,960
Yeah, sorry, Kelby. 
Yeah. 

1593
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:26,320
But, you know, but it's like, 
it's like idyllic, right? 

1594
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:28,480
It's like the shining city on 
the hill. 

1595
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,800
It's like the whole whatever 
that it's like that kind of 

1596
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:32,240
thing. 
And. 

1597
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:33,640
Yeah, Yeah. 
And the fact that it just 

1598
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:38,440
decayed so rapidly is sad. 
I was just there. 

1599
01:12:38,440 --> 01:12:39,680
I was just there last week and I
loved it. 

1600
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,320
I loved all of it. 
I was just like, wow, this is 

1601
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,680
really cool. 
I would hate to ruin this thing,

1602
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:46,520
you know, like I would. 
I would hate for this to like be

1603
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:50,560
bad and like, you know, get like
Escape from New York level like,

1604
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,440
like horrible, which in certain 
you go down like literally you 

1605
01:12:53,440 --> 01:12:55,800
take one turn, you're like, 
whoa, never mind. 

1606
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:57,360
Yeah, I'll take the other 
street. 

1607
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:01,560
What we learn is that like it's,
it's easier to to destroy 

1608
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:03,360
something than to build it up. 
You know what I mean? 

1609
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,920
It's like it's, it takes a lot 
of blood, sweat and tears to 

1610
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,400
create like a functioning 
societal system. 

1611
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:12,440
But like, dude, it takes like a 
year of yeah, letting the steal 

1612
01:13:12,440 --> 01:13:16,440
shit to like see like a real 
plummeted overall quality, you 

1613
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:17,120
know? 
Right. 

1614
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:20,640
I mean, it's like, you know, 
it's tantrums are easy and 

1615
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,400
satisfying in the short term. 
You know, like it's really easy 

1616
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:25,120
to throw a tantrum. 
One of the first things you do 

1617
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,320
when electronics don't work is 
you slap them, you know, like 

1618
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,720
it's, it's, it's just this kind 
of like, yeah, I mean, that's, 

1619
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:32,720
that's kind of, but after a 
while, it's kind of like you, 

1620
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,560
not when you're a lot of people 
realize like not everyone's as 

1621
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,200
radical as you. 
A lot of times it's like a 

1622
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:40,840
really tough thing to come to a 
lot of times like, and I think 

1623
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,120
it's, and even if I'm, I'm 
saying that tongue in cheek, 

1624
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:45,120
like radical, I don't even think
a lot of the stuff these people 

1625
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:48,080
believe in is like radical. 
I think it's just platitudinal 

1626
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:51,640
really. 
But anyways, like I from a 

1627
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:53,600
health perspective, like a lot 
of people like what we talk 

1628
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,400
about, most of the time the 
person you're talking to is kind

1629
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,520
of just dipping their toe into 
like, oh, oh, we could do 

1630
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:00,720
something a little different 
here. 

1631
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:04,760
And like actually, and then you 
start like then you scare them 

1632
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,160
away, right? 
And so like when you, when 

1633
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,480
someone goes like, God, it is 
expensive living out here and 

1634
01:14:09,480 --> 01:14:12,280
they'll be like, actually, we 
should add so many more houses 

1635
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:15,800
and give away houses for free. 
And everyone just goes free for 

1636
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,160
like me, I have a job and it's 
like, it is tough making rent. 

1637
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:22,520
They're like, no, no, no, you're
actually we're going to like tax

1638
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:23,440
you a little bit more. 
If that's cool. 

1639
01:14:23,440 --> 01:14:26,360
Like, see, you know, these other
people need those houses. 

1640
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:27,920
And it's like, oh, I'm like 
barely getting by. 

1641
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:32,360
Like capital isn't too. 
I know it reminds me of the two 

1642
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:37,000
things like in the New York City
thing where the people are still

1643
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:41,520
fresh off the like giving 
migrants 5 star hotel treatment 

1644
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:43,720
and debit cards and like 
PlayStation twos and which 

1645
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:45,360
absolutely happened. 
You know, right? 

1646
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,440
Yeah, and it's like, you know, 
maybe not all of them, I'm 

1647
01:14:48,440 --> 01:14:50,200
saying, but for sure some of 
them, you know. 

1648
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:51,760
Dude, there must have been a 
Prius program. 

1649
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,560
All I'm saying is I think there 
was a Prius in your guys's 

1650
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:56,640
cities. 
Have you seen just like Mad Max,

1651
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,560
like beat up Priuses driven by 
people that you don't think 

1652
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,640
we're here for very long? 
I I don't know what. 

1653
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:03,520
Maybe it's a California 
correspond, dude. 

1654
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:05,080
Yeah, yeah, I. 
And then they're always. 

1655
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,400
Just circling neighborhoods for 
DoorDash and you're just like, 

1656
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,320
yeah, when did this happen? 
Like. 

1657
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,920
It was just, it was just like 
video games, like the fucking 

1658
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,120
Call of Duty that with the 
helicopter that brings you shit,

1659
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:19,240
Like that's what it felt like. 
Yeah, but then there's the other

1660
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:20,720
thing. 
And I did see this post and this

1661
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:22,840
makes kind of everyone mad on 
all sides because they have 

1662
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:24,240
their own take on the healthcare
thing. 

1663
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:27,600
But someone's like, look at the 
look at our empty. 

1664
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,760
It was like an emergency room 
and it was completely empty 

1665
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:34,800
because of the protests and the 
ICE raids and everything going 

1666
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:36,720
on in like in LA. 
And they're like, look at this. 

1667
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:38,960
This is Trump's mayor. 
It's like, oh, like a non 

1668
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,680
crowded emergency room. 
Like, yeah, it's like kind of 

1669
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,800
because, you know, the thought 
being that, you know, people, 

1670
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,960
people will use the emergency 
room as like a bridge healthcare

1671
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,080
system. 
You know, I don't like the ice 

1672
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:52,160
has a jacket on like a doctor's 
jacket in there. 

1673
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:54,720
And they're like, oh, what? 
Yeah. 

1674
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,320
And Hertz? 
Quando. 

1675
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,160
And then yeah. 
And then yeah. 

1676
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:03,640
Yeah, no, but the whole like. 
Yeah, great. 

1677
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,440
Good episode. 
Where did everyone go? 

1678
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,680
It's just like empty. 
Yeah, but the whole no, but the 

1679
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:13,200
whole the idea. 
And I do, I do kind of. 

1680
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:17,880
I'm not like a I'm not like a 
full on like Fox News guy on 

1681
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:21,080
this on like on healthcare. 
I don't know where I stand on 

1682
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,040
it, you know, I don't like, it's
tough. 

1683
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:28,840
I don't like, but I do know that
you cannot give some people free

1684
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,640
emergency room healthcare and 
just clog the system up and then

1685
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:35,760
make other people pay $5000 a 
month for a family of four and 

1686
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,440
expect that to be fair or sane 
or whatever. 

1687
01:16:38,440 --> 01:16:41,600
You get punished to just be in 
to just having like a job and 

1688
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,160
trying to get healthcare and 
stuff clearly doesn't work, you 

1689
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,480
know, and I'm someone that's 
like so outside of that system, 

1690
01:16:46,480 --> 01:16:49,480
you know, it's just very. 
Yeah, but as a proud 

1691
01:16:49,480 --> 01:16:52,280
representative of the gamer 
community, I think it's stolen 

1692
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,680
value to to give just anyone a 
PlayStation Two, man, that 

1693
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,240
shit's sacred to my people, bro.
Yeah, you can't. 

1694
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:00,280
Yeah. 
It's just a crazy fucking like, 

1695
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:03,360
like, how do you guys figure 
this is sustainable? 

1696
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:04,840
You know what I mean? 
Like we can't. 

1697
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:08,880
Yeah, haven't got that far, but 
no. 

1698
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:12,160
Yeah, I've gotten links for free
PS fives all the time, however. 

1699
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:17,280
I did not receive. 
Them but yeah yeah, free Ray 

1700
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:19,040
bans PS-5 sounds like. 
Dude. 

1701
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:21,320
I know they're like, oh wait, 
he's white. 

1702
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:22,520
No, it's a scout. 
Scam him. 

1703
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:26,040
Yeah, I know. 
Get all his information. 

1704
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:30,440
But yeah, no, I, I, I, you know,
I, I just think it's really 

1705
01:17:30,440 --> 01:17:33,320
funny. 
The, the just look at I, I 

1706
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:34,840
don't, I'm not filled with 
dread. 

1707
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,920
It's just like, I'm like, oh 
man, like after everything 

1708
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:42,440
that's happened in the last four
years of just COVID, you know, 

1709
01:17:42,480 --> 01:17:45,280
there, there was no like re 
examining of that just going 

1710
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:48,680
like, damn, were we were we 
like, were we tripping or 

1711
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,520
something? 
And the, the, that's why, like 

1712
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,880
I, I know people like the, the, 
the kind of enlightened take 

1713
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,200
when you're away from this is 
like, well, leftists and 

1714
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:00,520
liberals are the same. 
They are, but they aren't. 

1715
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,680
And, and like, I, I agree that 
they kind of all kind of end up 

1716
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,280
in the same place when you're in
a general electorate election. 

1717
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:08,120
Like I absolutely agree with 
that. 

1718
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:12,000
However, they operate completely
differently in, in in some ways,

1719
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:17,400
whereas actually liberals are 
very useful for leftist people 

1720
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:22,160
because if they're kind of pet 
candidate doesn't win, we can 

1721
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:25,400
blame, blame right wing and 
neoliberals at the same time, 

1722
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,760
you know, And so it's like 
there's this there's this idea 

1723
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:31,360
of like, yeah, I, I think there 
might be a kind of a like a, if 

1724
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,880
this guy does win, there might 
be kind of like a, oh shit, we 

1725
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:37,000
got to like do shit now, you 
know, kind of situation. 

1726
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,320
Like they're kind of expected 
for like the what's the, what's 

1727
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,360
that? 
The what's the one in Iowa that 

1728
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:44,560
like Bernie Sanders got ruined 
shadow app or something like 

1729
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,560
expecting some weird like thing 
to happen because it does like 

1730
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:50,040
it does. 
There is like an element and I, 

1731
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:52,920
I can like where you kind of 
expect to be stopped. 

1732
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:55,720
Like it's like something with 
RFK, which I kind of want to end

1733
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:57,320
with here. 
Like this whole thing with RFK, 

1734
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:00,000
like he got like in and I was 
like really happy and I was 

1735
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:03,640
like, wait, does this mean like 
it's going to suck because he 

1736
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,720
got in, you know, like I'm used 
to someone sabotaging it, you 

1737
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:08,560
know, because then when you 
sabotage, you go, well, it would

1738
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,920
have worked, you know, because 
that's why they sabotaged it. 

1739
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,800
So I I am, I am interested for 
this guy to win and then be 

1740
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:18,360
like, OK, now what? 
New York City is yours literally

1741
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:23,000
may maybe the most important 
mayoral city like in terms of 

1742
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,480
like politically. 
I mean, like it is a stepping 

1743
01:19:25,480 --> 01:19:27,960
stone. 
You could go straight up like, I

1744
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,720
mean, you know, you can use it 
to go anywhere after that. 

1745
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,160
And you're talking about a guy 
like I dude, I listened to his 

1746
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:36,080
music and it sounded like 
straight up like Dubai 

1747
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,480
prostitute shit porn. 
Music. 

1748
01:19:38,480 --> 01:19:40,960
Like it was crazy. 
Like it was, it straight up 

1749
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,160
sounded like one of those things
where you're like like an AI 

1750
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:46,760
video of a guy snowboarding and 
like, that's like playing very 

1751
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:47,200
weird. 
Weird. 

1752
01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:49,200
Yeah, it was, it was very 
strange. 

1753
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:51,880
But this RFK thing's is 
interesting. 

1754
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:55,000
I wanted to, to end with this 
because that one's kind of like 

1755
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:56,880
the most disappointing one to 
me. 

1756
01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:00,000
Because for anyone who doesn't 
know, I, I think Sai can 

1757
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,400
probably explain this better 
than me. 

1758
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,120
He was kind of like endorsing 
this biotech stuff, which was, 

1759
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,560
was a warning about, for a lot 
of people about him is that he 

1760
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:10,760
was not anti like biotech and 
stuff. 

1761
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:12,960
Can you can you explain why 
maybe that's not the best thing 

1762
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:16,400
in the world? 
Yeah, well, he he first of all, 

1763
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:20,560
I'd say he he's been, you know, 
I followed him for decades at 

1764
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:24,240
this point and I do like him and
I do think it is good that he is

1765
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:29,320
in there, but I am disappointed.
It's he, he for all intents and 

1766
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:33,400
purposes, he built the, this lat
little chunk of his career that 

1767
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,720
basically got him in there by 
criticizing the mRNA platform 

1768
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:39,120
through COVID, you know, and 
like literally calling those 

1769
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:42,960
shots cancer causing and, you 
know, evil and, you know, and 

1770
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:47,520
calling for their removal from 
the market, which made him a 

1771
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:50,440
star throughout COVID, you know,
through with his Fauci book and 

1772
01:20:50,440 --> 01:20:53,360
everything. 
And, and he, he calls Fauci A 

1773
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,120
bioweapons guy, literally like a
biotech weapons guy. 

1774
01:20:56,480 --> 01:20:59,200
You know, that's his book. 
You know, that was like #1 on 

1775
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,080
Amazon despite censorship and 
everything. 

1776
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:03,840
And and then he comes out with 
this whole thing like he's like,

1777
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:09,160
we need to, he did like MA BA 
make American biotech accelerate

1778
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,360
MABA, you know, and it's like we
got to stop. 

1779
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:12,960
And I'm like in iterations. 
That we do. 

1780
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:16,840
Like, it's an epidemic. 
I heard Miga the other day. 

1781
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:18,840
I was like, come on. 
Yeah, Like, just stop. 

1782
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:20,760
What's Miga? 
Israel. 

1783
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:23,200
Yeah. 
Or Iran? 

1784
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:24,360
Both. 
It means both. 

1785
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:26,920
No, I'm not joking. 
Yeah, I'm not joking. 

1786
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:29,600
Yeah, I saw the Star Wars meme. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1787
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:31,240
Where? 
It was like Iran, right? 

1788
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:33,840
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
No, but yeah. 

1789
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:37,440
So it's like, you know, and 
biotech, my, my take on biotech 

1790
01:21:37,440 --> 01:21:43,440
is it's first of all, I think 
it's the extremely overrated in 

1791
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:48,400
every aspect that it's applied 
to human health crop genetics, 

1792
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:54,360
you know, you know, like GM OS, 
that kind of stuff and it costs.

1793
01:21:54,360 --> 01:22:00,800
So the whole platform of 
genetics, the whole study of 

1794
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:06,120
that field is so it hasn't 
produced, has met many results 

1795
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:09,360
as the money that's flown into 
flowed into it basically, you 

1796
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:11,440
know, and it's basically what 
we've learned from studying 

1797
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:15,120
genetics is that we don't know a
lot. 

1798
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,600
And this is way more complex 
than we ever realized. 

1799
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,440
And we can't just tweet, tinker 
1 little thing and expect to get

1800
01:22:20,440 --> 01:22:22,480
it out. 
It's more complex than the 

1801
01:22:22,480 --> 01:22:24,920
craziest computer code we have. 
I wonder if there was a really 

1802
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,440
good 6 foot 9 author that said 
that a long time ago too. 

1803
01:22:27,440 --> 01:22:29,600
Exactly. 
Yeah, exactly. 

1804
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,720
And that message kind of got 
whitewashed a little bit and. 

1805
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:34,720
Yeah, yeah, he was. 
He was? 

1806
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:36,680
Yeah, exactly. 
Yeah. 

1807
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:38,160
Yeah. 
He's just being silly. 

1808
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:42,000
Yeah. 
And so, so anyway, my take on it

1809
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:46,520
is that so many governments and 
rich, rich people, you know, 

1810
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:50,640
like in private investors and 
you know, startups and 

1811
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:54,280
everything, they're so invested 
in this thing working mRNA, all 

1812
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:56,440
this stuff. 
So everyone, it's just a margin 

1813
01:22:56,440 --> 01:22:59,760
call and everyone is underwater 
on investments, on these biotech

1814
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,480
investments. 
And that's why that's why you 

1815
01:23:02,480 --> 01:23:04,760
need a guy like RFK to go, we 
need biotech. 

1816
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,520
And you know, and it's like, 
obviously the base doesn't want 

1817
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:10,360
it with no human health isn't 
created through more 

1818
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:12,440
biotechnology. 
And I'm weirdly enough, I'm 

1819
01:23:12,440 --> 01:23:14,200
actually on the long scale time 
frame. 

1820
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:16,400
I'm actually kind of, I'm kind 
of long on it. 

1821
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:19,480
Like I do think we will find 
some interesting stuff in the 

1822
01:23:19,480 --> 01:23:21,480
next 50 to 100 years with 
biotech. 

1823
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:25,080
But largely it's a Ponzi scheme.
And like, like Moderna is like a

1824
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,280
shell game. 
You know, I've, you know, it's 

1825
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:29,960
literally like a Ponzi scheme of
investment. 

1826
01:23:30,440 --> 01:23:36,640
And so anyway, it's it is 
disappointing and it's just kind

1827
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,960
of like a, you know, like it is 
a little bit of a black belt. 

1828
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:42,440
Like what? 
We can't really affect it on 

1829
01:23:42,440 --> 01:23:45,720
that top level top down. 
We can't do it. 

1830
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:46,280
We can't. 
We're. 

1831
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:49,080
Pharma, pharma and military are 
pretty tough, man. 

1832
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:50,960
Like like it's kind of one in 
the same. 

1833
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,240
I mean, you can find connections
between the two, but it's just 

1834
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:56,240
like those are the ones where 
it's like you go against that 

1835
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:58,800
and it's like, hey, dude, I got 
40 fucking terabytes of some 

1836
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,080
really cool images of young 
people I could put on your 

1837
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:04,920
computer at any moment, you 
know, like, yeah, just just a 

1838
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:05,720
thought. 
Yeah. 

1839
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:07,080
Do your thing, dude. 
Maha. 

1840
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,680
Yeah, Maha. 
Yeah, fucking yeah. 

1841
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:11,040
Do that. 
Yeah, for sure. 

1842
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:11,600
Yeah. 
Don't. 

1843
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:13,280
Yeah, no, you're fine. 
Whatever you want, dude. 

1844
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:17,000
But the anyway, like you can 
definitely, yeah, you know, I 

1845
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:19,760
that's that's the problem with 
it, with it all is like the 

1846
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,720
people once you get hip to like 
a lot of that stuff, like the 

1847
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:26,520
real like deep state stuff is 
which I I tend to think is true 

1848
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:28,840
more than it isn't. 
And and but you're kind of like,

1849
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,120
what do I do? 
Yeah, like, like that's the 

1850
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:32,640
problem. 
And you ask people and they go, 

1851
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:35,240
well, it's not that simple. 
And then and then it just, they 

1852
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:38,080
never, they end up just 
repeating all the connections of

1853
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:40,600
people that are here and there 
and you're like, OK, I got that.

1854
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:42,280
That's scary. 
What do we do? 

1855
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,280
And they they don't know and 
they go, you need to reject the 

1856
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,800
two party system. 
I go, all right, then what? 

1857
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,040
Because then Kamala Harris wins 
and then what? 

1858
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:53,760
Like I, I just, I like that's 
the I, I don't know that, but 

1859
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:56,440
that part's like really tough. 
But it is when you get your guy 

1860
01:24:56,440 --> 01:24:58,760
in there, or at least the your 
best chance at it. 

1861
01:24:59,480 --> 01:25:01,880
And I think RFK, you know, 
firing the vaccine board people 

1862
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:03,440
was really good. 
I think, I think a lot of that 

1863
01:25:03,440 --> 01:25:04,840
was fine. 
I mean, we have yet to see well 

1864
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:06,760
who get who is the replacement, 
of course. 

1865
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:09,640
And that's why a lot of this 
stuff, you know, I think, 

1866
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:11,320
frankly, I think a lot of the 
geopolitical stuff we were 

1867
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:14,000
talking about is done at the 
hands of intelligence agencies 

1868
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,800
or information from intelligence
agencies. 

1869
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:20,000
Mind you, even though they Trump
has shaken up some stuff like 

1870
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,760
Cash Patel and you know, people 
like that and put these people 

1871
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:26,880
in, I still tend to think that 
the upper intelligence people, 

1872
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:28,880
the the stuff, I have a feeling 
they're all still there. 

1873
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,400
Those are the people that tried 
to coop him basically, you know,

1874
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:33,800
like at some point. 
So the information that we're 

1875
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:36,360
being fed, or at least some of 
our officials are being fed a 

1876
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:38,280
lot of times, like probably 
isn't good. 

1877
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:42,040
And I hope RFK is not listening 
to those same people, you know, 

1878
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:45,440
in the same way. 
And, you know, that's this is my

1879
01:25:45,440 --> 01:25:48,400
problem is like the the best 
part about RFK was like, he was 

1880
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,240
kind of just like because I, I, 
you and Trump said this about 

1881
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:54,720
when he employed him, is he 
Bobby assumed Bobby, Bobby said 

1882
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,800
to me that this wasn't really 
going to cost that much to do 

1883
01:25:57,800 --> 01:25:59,080
what we do. 
He's like, yeah, some of the 

1884
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:00,560
farming stuff will for long 
term. 

1885
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:03,680
He's like, but over time, it's 
really just scaling back a lot 

1886
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:06,960
of things that we were doing. 
And I think Trump, again, I, I 

1887
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:09,480
hate to say this, but I think 
Trump has a vested interest in 

1888
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,640
autism because I don't know, 
you've seen his kid. 

1889
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:16,000
I, I, I just, I don't know, I, 
I'm not trying to, I'm not 

1890
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:17,840
trying to, you know, diagnose 
anybody. 

1891
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:20,000
But he started tweeting that 
when like Baron was a little 

1892
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,680
kid, the many such cases thing. 
So I just, I don't know, I just,

1893
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,400
you know, he's high functioning 
clearly, but it's just, it's 

1894
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:28,160
just like, you wonder if like he
was just like they told me to 

1895
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,280
give him this many shots and he 
started talking different, you 

1896
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:32,000
know, or like, like, that's 
weird, you know. 

1897
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:36,600
So I, you know, I guess I, I say
all that to, to say this, that 

1898
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:40,120
it is it there the people who 
talk about the invisible hand 

1899
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:42,600
and all of these things, like 
they are right to a degree, like

1900
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:46,280
they are right to a degree. 
And then these are good examples

1901
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:48,040
of that. 
But at the end of the day, like 

1902
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:51,640
when I want to I, you know, 
conversely, you look at like 

1903
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:55,480
the, the Trevor project stuff. 
I'm like that I see is like real

1904
01:26:55,480 --> 01:26:58,120
when you take like you say this 
Trevor Project for anybody who 

1905
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:02,000
doesn't know people freaked out 
for like a day about like the I 

1906
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:06,040
think it was the LGBT fucking 
suicide hotline or something. 

1907
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:09,440
I don't like that, but it's 
funded by the Trevor Project or 

1908
01:27:09,440 --> 01:27:10,960
or whatever. 
And the Trevor Project is 

1909
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:12,800
literally evil. 
I'm sorry, Like it's there's not

1910
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:13,320
there is. 
No. 

1911
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:14,720
Can you, can you break that down
a little bit? 

1912
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:19,080
I just found out about this. 
Well, yes, now the actual 

1913
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:22,400
company that fund apparently, 
and I've heard this from many 

1914
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:26,800
people that the the Trevor 
Project and it's basically just 

1915
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:30,200
like this LGBTQ like I think 
nonprofit or something. 

1916
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,920
So yeah, off the bat you already
kind of know like it's bullshit,

1917
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:36,720
but but anyways, and it's all 
about like we are here. 

1918
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:40,280
They are constantly fighting for
trans children, which, you know,

1919
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:44,280
I'm opposed to like kind of that
stuff at any age to a degree at 

1920
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:47,080
least at least appeasing it, you
know, and aiding it along. 

1921
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:49,360
Like, I don't care what you 
dress, but like, I'm not like 

1922
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:51,200
we're not. 
That's something you're doing at

1923
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:52,760
party. 
You don't have to apply you. 

1924
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:54,880
Go to party city by yourself and
figure it out. 

1925
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:59,480
Like and, and so like to me, 
like that's on you, whatever, 

1926
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:02,360
Like, but the the The thing is 
to me was with the kids. 

1927
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:04,240
I mean, I don't understand how 
you can support that for 

1928
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:05,880
children at all. 
Like whatsoever. 

1929
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:08,200
There's literally no argument to
be made where you support that. 

1930
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:13,240
Now the Trevor Project is gets 
funding from this company that 

1931
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:14,720
literally makes puberty 
blockers. 

1932
01:28:15,480 --> 01:28:20,240
Wow, so you have I again, I'm 
I'm I'm not getting the the name

1933
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:20,960
of it right now. 
This is. 

1934
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:24,440
Like not this is kind of a newer
thing like the last couple years

1935
01:28:24,480 --> 01:28:26,040
I assume. 
Yeah, I, I, I'm pretty sure the 

1936
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:28,280
Trevor Project was like a like 
in the 20 tens. 

1937
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:30,640
If I'm not, I there are people 
like Trevor Noah Project. 

1938
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:34,720
Yeah. 
I mean, yeah, he was patient 

1939
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:35,320
zero. 
Yeah. 

1940
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:40,080
But yeah, we named it after our 
best, best one. 

1941
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:45,760
He's South African king. 
But yeah, the the anyways, he 

1942
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:50,040
that stuff. 
So you're that company and you 

1943
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:52,120
and to if you're a leftist 
again, like that's probably like

1944
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:54,320
bad when like big Pharma's 
funding something. 

1945
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:56,360
But we know that that's that, 
that doesn't matter. 

1946
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:57,960
The dark money from that 
literally doesn't matter. 

1947
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:01,880
It's actually good, actually, 
Yeah, and and that stuff doesn't

1948
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,120
matter. 
But they'll never, ever go 

1949
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:06,880
against that or even in any 
degree, like just go like if the

1950
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:09,520
Trevor Project gets they, I 
guess they didn't get their 

1951
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:11,600
federal funding, right? 
Like they, they can. 

1952
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:15,880
And they have a suicide hotline.
Do people call that? 

1953
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:21,920
I, I, I like the like, what I 
mean is like, I'm gay and I'm 

1954
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,520
dying. 
You know what I'm saying? 

1955
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:26,000
I'm gay and I want to kill 
myself. 

1956
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:28,320
Not just I want to kill myself, 
but like, I'm gay and I want to 

1957
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:30,640
kill myself. 
Like like, or I'm trans and I 

1958
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:32,360
want to kill myself. 
Like like if you're killing 

1959
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:34,280
yourself, it's kind of like I'll
just call the regular one, 

1960
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:36,200
right? 
I'm not trying to, I'm not 

1961
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:37,840
trying to be rude. 
Like I just, I feel I was like 

1962
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:41,800
there's a separate 1 you. 
Called the you called the 

1963
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:45,080
straight to a hotline. 
Show me, show me a video of like

1964
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:47,960
your phone lines and like like 
of like the phone's buzzing. 

1965
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:49,480
We should do like a side by side
dude. 

1966
01:29:49,480 --> 01:29:51,320
We should do there's. 
Probably quite a few now that I 

1967
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:54,240
think about it. 
But there is a number that it's 

1968
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:56,720
bad but like. 
That's like YouTube content. 

1969
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:59,160
We called both lines and 
compared the responses to you. 

1970
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:02,280
Know. 
Yeah, like, like, you know, 

1971
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:04,400
there, there should definitely 
be like, yeah, exactly. 

1972
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:07,840
YouTube videos, maybe it is. 
I just, I like that stuff. 

1973
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:10,040
Like when that happens, people 
chalk that up to like culture 

1974
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:11,480
war stuff. 
And I said, well, that's to me 

1975
01:30:11,480 --> 01:30:15,520
is something you can win. 
That's that's a national, that's

1976
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:18,400
a National Defense To me, that's
National Defense in a way. 

1977
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:20,240
Like where it's like that's 
fake, that's bad, that's 

1978
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:23,000
hurting, literally hurting kids 
because, well, sorry, let's be 

1979
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:24,640
real. 
If that suicide hotline is 

1980
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:26,480
popping, it's because of people 
who took fucking puberty 

1981
01:30:26,480 --> 01:30:28,560
blockers and nobody. 
And then they went out in the 

1982
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:30,480
real world and somebody noticed 
their Adam's apple. 

1983
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:33,160
Like literally that's like, 
that's why they're calling the 

1984
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:35,880
hotline. 
Yeah, it's crazy, because I do 

1985
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:38,800
think that that stuff really 
seems to be tanking lately, that

1986
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:39,480
whole. 
Project. 

1987
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:43,280
And like, they closed the and it
seems to be like obviously rife 

1988
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:46,120
with scientific fraud and other 
things and all that. 

1989
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:48,240
And yeah. 
And I honestly like a couple 

1990
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:51,160
maybe last year or the year 
before, I heard Brett 

1991
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:54,600
Weinstein's wife Heather on 
their podcast talk about 

1992
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:57,960
something that like, honestly, 
I've never even heard like 

1993
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:00,560
really mentioned in plain 
conversation before. 

1994
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:03,840
And it was, it just got me 
thinking she's like, you know, 

1995
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:07,800
because everyone thinks the 
whole liberal idea is like, if 

1996
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:11,880
we don't affirm gender, that's 
what's causing the suicides and 

1997
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:13,440
the mental health. 
He's like, he's like, what? 

1998
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:15,520
She's like, what if it's not a 
correlation causation? 

1999
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:17,680
What if it's flipped? 
And it's like, what if we need, 

2000
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:19,920
what if these people need help 
and we're not helping? 

2001
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:21,560
Like, what if we could like 
prevent this? 

2002
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:24,240
And he and she's, she's like, I 
know that's sacrilege. 

2003
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:27,440
That's like, you cannot say 
that, but it's like maybe 

2004
01:31:27,440 --> 01:31:30,080
someday someone will ask that 
fucking question and it'll be, 

2005
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:31,480
you know, And it was very 
interesting. 

2006
01:31:31,480 --> 01:31:33,280
And I thought that was kind of 
brave. 

2007
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:34,400
Yeah. 
You get sold. 

2008
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:38,800
You get sold an ideology, then 
they go, you can do this and and

2009
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:42,680
and it's illegal for someone to 
not refer to you as such, right?

2010
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:44,720
Like, and then they go, oh, that
sounds great. 

2011
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:46,400
And you hear that on Reddit or 
whatever. 

2012
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:48,480
And like you're just like, 
that's awesome about the, you 

2013
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:50,520
know, let's let's get this 
going. 

2014
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:53,800
And then you realize, like, even
if somebody's being like mean or

2015
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:56,080
anything, they're just like, 
kind of like, OK, let's still 

2016
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:58,520
that's, that's not, it just 
doesn't work. 

2017
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:01,000
You like you've, you kind of 
have mortgaged your entire 

2018
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:03,040
happiness based on public 
perception, right? 

2019
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:07,360
Which can, can absolutely, which
can, can, can absolutely drive 

2020
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:09,640
you to suicide. 
Like like with, with 100% like, 

2021
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:13,160
like you will absolutely like, 
because that's the final 

2022
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:14,760
frontier. 
I'm sorry you're not believing 

2023
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:17,040
in God at that point. 
There's not a lot of like, like 

2024
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:19,640
there's a lot of things you've 
taken like this is, it is a form

2025
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:22,560
of nihilism, like in a sense 
where you're just like, this is 

2026
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:24,480
all there is. 
There's only what I project out 

2027
01:32:24,480 --> 01:32:27,760
to the world is musically, you 
know, that that is that is all 

2028
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:32,000
there is about me, you know, and
I get it when that when you find

2029
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:33,920
out, I mean, that's like the end
of Prometheus, right? 

2030
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:36,840
Like looking this happening to 
you at that moment, like like, 

2031
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:39,720
you know, like, you know, like 
go back this, go back. 

2032
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:41,200
No. 
And like, yeah, yeah, you guys 

2033
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:42,760
aren't like. 
I know you guys aren't like 

2034
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:44,840
necessarily like huge, like 
Yarvin guys, but like, 

2035
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:45,840
something. 
Tell me about him. 

2036
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,960
Yeah, something says like it's 
something that I've like that 

2037
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:50,960
has stuck with me that he said. 
Because like I said, to your 

2038
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:53,320
point about how like, you know, 
what exactly is causing this 

2039
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:56,640
like mental anguish, like Yarby 
will say, you know, the libs are

2040
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:58,840
our people and they need our 
help, you know? 

2041
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:01,400
And it's like, to me, to me, 
it's like, yeah, like, I mean, a

2042
01:33:01,480 --> 01:33:02,840
lot of, there's a lot of libs in
my family. 

2043
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:04,760
There's a lot of libs in like my
community and shit like that. 

2044
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:08,200
And it's like, I, I can see, 
like, I can see like a lot of 

2045
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:10,640
trans people being people who 
like struggle with some like 

2046
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:12,200
very real shit. 
Maybe we know what it is. 

2047
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:14,120
We don't. 
But like, they're not getting 

2048
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:16,040
the help that they need. 
And something like the Trevor 

2049
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:18,400
Project, like you're saying, is 
like giving them the exact 

2050
01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:22,360
opposite of like the kind of 
like reality that they they 

2051
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:25,400
need, you know, to, to like 
start like pivoting back into 

2052
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:27,960
like a healthier worldview. 
You know, it's, it's sad, man. 

2053
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:31,360
Unironically, they should be, 
they should be reading like 

2054
01:33:31,440 --> 01:33:33,440
psyops books. 
Yeah, yeah. 

2055
01:33:33,440 --> 01:33:35,360
Like literally like that's all 
you can do. 

2056
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:37,240
Like I'll put you this way. 
Like there might be somebody 

2057
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:39,080
listening. 
And I genuinely like I make my 

2058
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:41,920
jokes and everything. 
Like I genuinely when I see like

2059
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:44,520
that stuff happening, I I get 
sad like. 

2060
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:46,840
I'm like I'm. 
Really sad that you're doing 

2061
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:48,720
that and people go, what do you 
give a shit? 

2062
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:51,880
I'm like, you need me to give a 
shit, first of all, like say 

2063
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:56,480
like, like you, I absolutely my 
participation in this is 100%. 

2064
01:33:56,480 --> 01:33:59,160
You need that? 
Yeah, like, no, no. 

2065
01:33:59,440 --> 01:34:02,320
Oh, like the whole me not caring
doesn't really. 

2066
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:04,160
If I don't care, then I don't 
think about you at all. 

2067
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:06,040
And I don't, I'll refer to you 
however I want because I don't 

2068
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:08,360
care, you know? 
So it's like you need me to 

2069
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:10,760
care. 
And my thing is I'm like, I'm 

2070
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:13,440
telling these people like this 
is the complete opposite of like

2071
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:17,600
what life is in my opinion. 
Like and, and and like it truly 

2072
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:20,280
gives, like it takes away all 
meaning of life. 

2073
01:34:20,480 --> 01:34:25,480
It's hyper, hyper image based 
thing, which that's already bad 

2074
01:34:25,480 --> 01:34:26,760
enough. 
You already like have people 

2075
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:30,320
doing physiognomy checks and 
like all the time on normal guys

2076
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:31,840
and shit. 
Like you already like have that.

2077
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:33,400
So everybody's already got that 
a little bit. 

2078
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:37,520
So it's kind of like this is 
bad, like this is legit bad. 

2079
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:39,880
People could say like, oh, 
that's like like Hitler level to

2080
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,360
defund this thing. 
And it's like, no, the biggest 

2081
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:44,120
thing is that when someone 
builds like something really 

2082
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:46,880
stupid that you ask them not to 
do, like, hey, don't, don't do 

2083
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:47,760
that. 
And they're like, well, I'm just

2084
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:49,200
going to surround you with it 
and everywhere. 

2085
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:51,120
And then you take it down. 
Like why did you take it down? 

2086
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:54,120
Yeah. 
Like, hey, what's going on? 

2087
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:55,840
I mean, that's their case with 
everything. 

2088
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:58,400
I mean, immigration, it's like, 
if I bring you this many people 

2089
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:00,920
deal with it, right? 
The only solution is this. 

2090
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:02,400
And he's like, well, what if I 
just like didn't? 

2091
01:35:02,480 --> 01:35:04,280
What if we just we just like 
sent them back? 

2092
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:06,840
How dare you, you know, So 
that's that's. 

2093
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:09,280
Everything. 
Yeah, they make a giant mess and

2094
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:11,840
then say cleaning it up is like 
the most evil thing you could 

2095
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:13,280
possibly do, right? 
Yeah, it's just. 

2096
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:15,640
Every single time. 
But yeah, dude, it's like, you 

2097
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:17,920
know, I get that a lot of times,
like, you know, you want to be 

2098
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:20,360
edgy and like make jokes on the 
Internet and people like kind of

2099
01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:22,520
kind of like talk shit on like 
the trans thing. 

2100
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:24,240
But it's like, dude, at the end 
of the day, it is ultimately 

2101
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:25,640
like incredibly tragic, you 
know? 

2102
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:28,200
And it's like when people say 
like, protect trans kids, it's 

2103
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:30,480
like, yeah, dude, I want to. 
Yeah, I'm trying to try myself. 

2104
01:35:30,480 --> 01:35:33,360
That's what I'm that's what I'm 
talking you, bro. 

2105
01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:36,120
I totally agree. 
Yeah, exactly. 

2106
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:39,240
Like, it's like you did that. 
Like, I just cannot. 

2107
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:44,040
And like the idea that, like, 
puberty is like this fucking 

2108
01:35:44,440 --> 01:35:46,080
oppressor. 
Yeah. 

2109
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:48,720
You know what I mean? 
Like, dude, like, Can you 

2110
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:50,080
imagine that? 
Like just. 

2111
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:52,000
I mean, it does. 
It is an odd time in your life. 

2112
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:56,120
Like, like, it's very weird. 
Like, like it is very odd. 

2113
01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:58,400
I mean, obviously for women it's
probably even more crazy, but 

2114
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:00,760
like, for like, it's a very odd 
thing. 

2115
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:03,480
So like, you're also very 
susceptible to a lot of weird 

2116
01:36:03,480 --> 01:36:05,760
stuff at that time. 
So for someone to go like, found

2117
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:11,360
the problem, armpit hair turns 
out like, yeah, I found the 

2118
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:15,520
problem, That's the problem. 
And, and, and this thing happens

2119
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:17,720
and you, you go like, well, 
we've solved it there. 

2120
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:20,280
And it's like, but again, my 
participation in it is 

2121
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:23,680
essential, right? 
So like, if I do say, well, 

2122
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,720
yeah, still this, you're still 
that, you're still this. 

2123
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:31,240
And that's like, Oh my gosh. 
And like, where, where does it 

2124
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:33,200
stop? 
Where does it stop? 

2125
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:36,520
And it's like it's I just to me 
and I and Trump literally came 

2126
01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:38,440
out and did like the best thing,
one of the best things he said 

2127
01:36:38,440 --> 01:36:39,840
so far. 
And he's just like, come on. 

2128
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:42,280
He just said, I think he 
literally formally spoke, spoke 

2129
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:44,400
out against like trans. 
He's like, that's not real. 

2130
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:47,200
Like he just like said that. 
And people said like that's 

2131
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:49,880
enough, like really that's 
enough to like cause a, a, like 

2132
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:52,480
a, a complete oil spill. 
Like, you know what I mean? 

2133
01:36:52,480 --> 01:36:55,600
Like just like an oil tanker of 
disaster for him to just go, 

2134
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:57,680
yeah, it's not what, no, are you
kidding me? 

2135
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:01,160
But like and and conversely for 
me to view that as 

2136
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:03,440
revolutionary. 
Yeah, totally. 

2137
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:05,000
Like you did it. 
Yeah. 

2138
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:06,320
Yeah, yeah. 
Whoa. 

2139
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:09,360
Like, you know, again, it's 
like, but it is so like because 

2140
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:12,240
you had Kamala Harris, who's 
like completely opposite Joe 

2141
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:15,680
Biden, literally I, I don't 
know, he probably doesn't know 

2142
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:18,480
what it is. 
But either way, support it, you 

2143
01:37:18,480 --> 01:37:19,480
know, read what's in front of 
you. 

2144
01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:24,000
And then that part to me is like
somebody, that part to me is the

2145
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:26,000
the best. 
Like when that when, when Trump 

2146
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:28,200
gets focused on that and just 
goes boom. 

2147
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:32,440
Actually, this is my stance. 
There's no qualifiers to it. 

2148
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:34,760
Sorry. 
Not on our dime. 

2149
01:37:35,360 --> 01:37:37,520
We're not firing people for not 
participating in it. 

2150
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:40,160
No. 
You know, like, and that's. 

2151
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:42,960
And at the end of the day, the 
problem corrects itself. 

2152
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:45,080
And I don't want people to off 
themselves. 

2153
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:46,280
I don't. 
Yeah, exactly. 

2154
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:49,600
I really want people to look at 
it and go, oh, yeah, that was a 

2155
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:50,760
bad idea. 
Yep. 

2156
01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:54,520
And it's like, man, it's like 
you take, because you know, 

2157
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:57,000
something like mental health 
issues are real, man. 

2158
01:37:57,000 --> 01:38:00,280
And like, like, I, I think a lot
of the discourse around mental 

2159
01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:02,760
health is like totally fucked. 
But it's not, it's not like, you

2160
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:04,960
know, emotional anguish isn't a 
real thing that people need help

2161
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:07,640
with, you know, And it's like 
I've, I've spoken with like, 

2162
01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:10,240
like school counselors and shit 
who are super woke, who like 

2163
01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:13,240
they see some kid who's like 
experiencing the difficulties of

2164
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:15,200
being a kid because being kids 
fucking hard, man. 

2165
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:17,400
You know, it is for everybody, 
right? 

2166
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:21,280
And, and it's like they see that
and then like the I feel like 

2167
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:25,560
what happens is like whatever 
the most popular like diagnosis 

2168
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:29,640
of the day is gets like we just 
look at any kid that's 

2169
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:31,680
struggling and say, oh, they 
must have this thing right. 

2170
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:32,960
The. 
And and like the. 

2171
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:35,640
Trans, like gender identity 
became like the the kind of 

2172
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:37,600
flavor of the day. 
And so it's like there's some 

2173
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:40,160
kid crying in front of you and 
you've been told that like, oh, 

2174
01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:42,400
this kid must have like gender 
dysphoria or whatever. 

2175
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:43,800
And so we just kind of default 
to that. 

2176
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:44,640
But really. 
Yeah. 

2177
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:45,400
Like, dude. 
Yeah. 

2178
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:48,080
Glenn I hadn't even thought of 
that part of it that like you, 

2179
01:38:48,480 --> 01:38:51,000
you put yourself in a position 
where yourself image is 

2180
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:55,520
completely reliant on other 
people and that's just already 

2181
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:58,480
incredibly dangerous like from 
any perspective in any anyway. 

2182
01:38:58,480 --> 01:39:02,360
Any form, any form when that 
happens, like when, when your 

2183
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:06,120
absolute livelihood is because 
that person view me as what I 

2184
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:10,400
think I am right now, like I'm 
sorry, like it's just that of 

2185
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:11,800
course it's going to end that 
way. 

2186
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:15,000
Like it's, it's it's I'm that's 
why like you can't. 

2187
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:17,560
And to tell somebody that I 
think is some of the best advice

2188
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:20,680
ever, but also you people would 
call you a straight up Nazi for 

2189
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:21,480
saying that. 
Right. 

2190
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:23,600
It's like you, you put these 
these kids, these vulnerable 

2191
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:26,080
people in a position where 
they're like guaranteed to 

2192
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:31,400
maximize like, like self esteem 
issues and emotional like lack 

2193
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:32,800
of emotional regulation and shit
like that. 

2194
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:35,880
It's just like, because, yeah, 
dude, like, you know, like as a 

2195
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:38,560
musician, I've learned this, 
that like, man, you got to, you 

2196
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:40,840
got to love the shit that you 
play and you kind of have to not

2197
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:42,880
care that much about how it's 
going to hit other people. 

2198
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:45,400
I like it when I play a song and
people are into it. 

2199
01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:47,520
That's great. 
But it's like, I have to, I have

2200
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:49,480
to kind of play it because I 
think it's tight, you know what 

2201
01:39:49,480 --> 01:39:51,680
I mean? 
And like, and any, any like 

2202
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:54,160
version of anything you might do
in life, I think that kind of 

2203
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:55,240
applies. 
Like you got to just like 

2204
01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:59,360
believe in your shit and learn 
when to like, I have like 4 or 

2205
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:02,880
five people who like, if they 
think I'm a good musician, then 

2206
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:03,880
I trust them, you know what I 
mean? 

2207
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:05,520
But it's like if everyone else 
states that I don't. 

2208
01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:07,560
You have a fuck. 
And it's like, yeah, you have 

2209
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:09,880
to, you have to be able to like 
shore up your own emotional 

2210
01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:12,400
stability. 
And, and we're like almost 

2211
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:14,680
deliberately putting people in a
position where they're like 

2212
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:16,760
outsourcing all of that, which 
is, yeah, just like the worst 

2213
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:18,920
possible. 
Method is Oh my gosh, dude. 

2214
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:21,560
And, and just the overall 
obsession with self-image 

2215
01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:24,240
regardless, like that's why I'm 
like, OK, I get it. 

2216
01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:27,360
Aesthetics, I understand they're
kind of important, but like men 

2217
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:31,800
overanalyzing their jaw like all
of this stuff, like all of this 

2218
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:34,080
stuff, I'm like, this is all 
transgenderism. 

2219
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:36,400
I'm, I hope you guys know this. 
Like you're doing some sort of 

2220
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:37,960
dysphoria and as a guy, you have
a hack. 

2221
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:40,280
You like really don't have to 
care a lot of times. 

2222
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:43,200
Like, like, like, I mean, yeah, 
take care of yourself, do this 

2223
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:44,920
and that. 
But like, if you have like a 

2224
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:46,760
little extra weight on you, it's
not a deal. 

2225
01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:48,760
But like take advantage of your 
privilege, by the way, is what 

2226
01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:52,520
I'm saying. 
Like 5 alarm fire, like when a 

2227
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:57,600
woman has a heavy meal once you 
know, And so it's like you don't

2228
01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:00,640
have that because like I, dude, 
I, this is completely different,

2229
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:02,960
but I see these things and it's 
everywhere. 

2230
01:41:02,960 --> 01:41:05,400
It's not just our Internet 
sphere, It's everywhere. 

2231
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:10,080
It's people like there's like 
young men that like I, I don't 

2232
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:12,200
know if it's manosphere stuff, 
but like they'll see a picture 

2233
01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:14,480
of like, are they the hottest 
chicks in the world? 

2234
01:41:14,480 --> 01:41:17,480
But they're like, kind of like, 
you know, fine, I guess, like, 

2235
01:41:17,480 --> 01:41:19,440
and they're like that one needs 
to lose weight. 

2236
01:41:19,440 --> 01:41:21,360
That one needs to and I'm always
like, wait, are you really 

2237
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:23,600
passing that up as a single man?
I was like, I was like, like, 

2238
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:25,800
hey, like between you and me, 
like are you, are you like 

2239
01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:28,040
you're passing that up because 
trust me, like at some point 

2240
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:29,280
you're not going to be able to 
have that. 

2241
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:32,320
So like don't like like as of 
like take that down a few times.

2242
01:41:32,480 --> 01:41:34,640
Like you can't tell me you 
travel the world like a fucking 

2243
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:36,320
secret agent, like fucking girls
all the time. 

2244
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:38,120
And you're like, that one has 
five extra pounds. 

2245
01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:39,920
Nah, dude. 
When you fuck regularly, you're 

2246
01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:42,680
going to that's you're going to 
hit that a few times and like, 

2247
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:44,840
and it's fine. 
It's totally fine. 

2248
01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:48,280
So I've always like, I'm always 
like, man, there are like just 

2249
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:49,800
looking at like young people 
right now. 

2250
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:52,800
It's like if you manage to 
escape like weird woke gender 

2251
01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:55,120
stuff, like when you're a kid, 
you still end up becoming like a

2252
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:59,440
weird hyper fixated image spur 
while maintaining anonymity on 

2253
01:41:59,440 --> 01:42:01,120
the Internet. 
Like it's very strange. 

2254
01:42:01,440 --> 01:42:03,480
And it's like, it's very 
strange. 

2255
01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:06,840
And I, I'm always like, dude, 
I'm telling you, if you're a 

2256
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:10,920
single young man, do, do, do 
more than you're doing. 

2257
01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:13,280
Let's just say that much like 
don't be sitting there waiting 

2258
01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:17,040
for fucking the LSU gymnast girl
to like, come out or, like, you 

2259
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:19,000
know, just like this, very, 
like, there she is, my 

2260
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:24,360
Hyperborean queen girl from 
Yogurtland. 

2261
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:29,000
Like, fuck her now to all young 
men. 

2262
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:32,080
Like, seriously, like, take it 
from somebody 10 years older 

2263
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:33,800
than you. 
I'm not like regretting it or 

2264
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:35,040
anything. 
I'm just saying you get that 

2265
01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:36,600
time once in your life. 
Do it. 

2266
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:38,960
Yeah. 
That's like straight up like, 

2267
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:41,280
yeah, it's. 
Just be a perfectionist, yeah. 

2268
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:45,160
Perfectionism in all way, shape 
or form. 

2269
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:47,600
So yeah. 
Well, shit, dude. 

2270
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:49,800
That's fucking great, man. 
Thanks for coming on. 

2271
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:53,640
Yeah, we had a great time. 
So points were made, issues were

2272
01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:55,920
covered, facts and logic 
deployed. 

2273
01:42:56,640 --> 01:42:59,920
So Thomas, where can people find
you, man? 

2274
01:42:59,920 --> 01:43:03,000
Like great account you you 
you're actually you have more 

2275
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:04,800
followers. 
I thought you were like super. 

2276
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:06,240
Did you have? 
Did you like gain a bunch of 

2277
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:09,440
followers recently? 
Oh, I mean, I, I had like a like

2278
01:43:09,440 --> 01:43:12,280
a hit tweet like a year ago or 
something I think got me like 

2279
01:43:12,280 --> 01:43:14,920
this and some extra followers. 
I'm, I'm sitting like 1100 or 

2280
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:18,880
something like that, you know? 
Yeah, but yeah, so I'm, I'm, I'm

2281
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:20,360
the, ER, millennial. 
It's my ad. 

2282
01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:22,400
It's a stupid username that I'm 
kind of stuck with. 

2283
01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:24,880
No, because it stands out. 
It stands out. 

2284
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:26,400
I know exactly who it is every 
time. 

2285
01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:29,400
Well, that works because because
there's like 10 David Koresh's. 

2286
01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:31,800
Then they're all like, they're 
all different, like David Koresh

2287
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:33,480
people. 
So I'm like, wait, is that Doug?

2288
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:35,560
And then I'm like, is Doug 
saying that weird ash? 

2289
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:37,120
I'm like, Oh no, that's some 
fucking weird guy. 

2290
01:43:37,480 --> 01:43:40,680
Yeah, yeah. 
I was like, I was like, well, 

2291
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:42,760
that's the weird thing for Doug 
to be saying like, you know, And

2292
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:45,280
then you find out it's some like
Canadian guy. 

2293
01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:47,840
Like you're like, oh God, got 
it. 

2294
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:49,960
He's also David Koresh dear. 
Stands out. 

2295
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:50,600
I know it's you. 
Cool. 

2296
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:53,760
Cool. 
And so I'm as recently I've 

2297
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:56,520
become the Co host of a podcast 
with with Ilitch. 

2298
01:43:56,760 --> 01:43:59,080
Our people know him from from 
ghost jail, did all the great 

2299
01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:01,280
stuff with that. 
It's called the post nostalgic 

2300
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:03,240
wasteland. 
We're doing it's kind of 

2301
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:05,280
topical. 
Like we'll, we'll take like a 

2302
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:07,920
like recently we did, for 
example, like an episode on 

2303
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:11,000
Jonestown, like the kind of 
commie cult that happened in 

2304
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:13,280
like South America. 
So we'll just like take a story 

2305
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:16,240
that we think is interesting and
we just kind of like riff about 

2306
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:17,560
it. 
It's we're not claiming to be 

2307
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:19,320
like experts in any of this 
shit, but we're just kind of 

2308
01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:20,920
like tackling issues that we 
find interesting. 

2309
01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:23,440
So post nostalgic wasteland, 
give us a shot over there. 

2310
01:44:23,440 --> 01:44:25,400
I think that they're, you know, 
I think if you're into this, 

2311
01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:27,320
you, you know, you might find 
something you're into. 

2312
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:29,560
Over there too. 
Absolutely, absolutely. 

2313
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:32,120
Yeah, definitely that size been 
on that. 

2314
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:33,680
Yeah, yeah, totally. 
Yeah, yeah. 

2315
01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:34,800
Size. 
Been on that. 

2316
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:39,000
Not me though. 
I guess so, yeah, yeah. 

2317
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:41,040
No, of course I would be 
honored. 

2318
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:43,640
I would be honored, yeah. 
But yeah, absolutely, guys. 

2319
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:46,320
Well, yeah, come in. 
Oh, I forgot. 

2320
01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:49,520
Next year Thomas and I are going
to tackle a very, very big piece

2321
01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:52,440
of fiction for sure. 
I it's really funny, man. 

2322
01:44:53,200 --> 01:44:55,320
If anybody doesn't know Gain of 
fiction, we're up to volume 60 

2323
01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:56,520
at this point. 
It's very, very fun. 

2324
01:44:56,800 --> 01:44:59,520
But we're, I'm starting to 
expand into tomes right now. 

2325
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:01,760
Gravity's Rainbow is kind of my 
long work right now. 

2326
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:03,560
After that, it's going to be 
Ulysses. 

2327
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:07,240
And then after that, Roberto 
Bolanos 2666, I was very 

2328
01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:09,920
fascinated with Bolano after I 
read by night in Chile. 

2329
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:13,680
Now this is about 8 times the 
size of a of, of, of that book. 

2330
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:16,320
So this will definitely be a, a 
challenge, but it's always good 

2331
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:17,520
when I was like, oh, I want to 
read this. 

2332
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:19,920
And I figured, well, no one's 
going to like do this with me, 

2333
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:22,040
you know, like this, this he 
goes, hey, it's my favorite 

2334
01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:24,840
book, dude. 
Yeah, no, I get it. 

2335
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:27,440
I, I like Bolano a lot. 
I'm very into like postmodern, 

2336
01:45:27,440 --> 01:45:31,080
like crazy stuff like that. 
So I I by night in Chile. 

2337
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:33,400
It was really interesting. 
There's like 6 different reads 

2338
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:35,160
on it. 
Like it's really cryptic. 

2339
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:38,960
Like like the parapolitical 
commie people are like, oh, he's

2340
01:45:39,640 --> 01:45:41,600
spilling the tea. 
But then like you can also read 

2341
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:44,120
it where he was like, why did I 
participate so hard on that? 

2342
01:45:44,120 --> 01:45:46,800
I should have yeah, yeah, yeah. 
I should have written more books

2343
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:48,720
like I should have just like I 
should have logged off and 

2344
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:52,520
grilled kind of. 
But it's also, but it's both 

2345
01:45:52,520 --> 01:45:54,680
like they're both right. 
Like it's a it's a real like 

2346
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:58,240
Dostoevsky existential crisis 
that he does that that like 

2347
01:45:58,240 --> 01:46:01,800
where he's constantly like, 
yeah, but but I was right. 

2348
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:05,080
But but what is being right 
being over being productive, you

2349
01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:07,360
know, like just saying I I like 
when people weigh that stuff 

2350
01:46:07,440 --> 01:46:08,560
now. 
So we're going to we're going to

2351
01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:10,760
tackle that next. 
That's really, really fun. 

2352
01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:10,960
So.