1 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:12,760 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Running 5 to the six. 2 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,000 We be in the mix with that rare candy paint job on the web. 3 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,440 I need food for the kids, money for the rent. 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,400 Fuck a lockdown baby. I can't do that shit and I'll 5 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,360 never vote 'cause I'm fucking broke and either way I know the 6 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,200 police ain't gonna leave me alone on a plane by the physical 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,680 and rock me. Crypto told me I should bring 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,120 the Glock with me so I packed up my piece and I'm sliding slide 9 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,080 'cause we might get caught up in a riot. 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,200 Middle finger trunk, middle finger biting fucker. 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,240 Left fucker right as you riding or you let us see it. 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,880 Those rocking, you know politics baby. 13 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,320 We just talking. From the birds to the bricks. 14 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,520 We be in the mix with the rare candy paint job on the web. 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:54,760 Who you with? Before we get started today, I 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,120 just wanted to let everyone know that the song at the end of this 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,560 is by Caleb Petty. That's KALOB Petty. 18 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,920 Like Tom Petty. He's not related, but he's damn 19 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,920 good musician. It's a song called Southern 20 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,120 blood. You can hear it at the end. 21 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,400 Go stream that on Spotify, get it in the algorithms and stuff 22 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,480 and and shout out to the guy Caleb right there. 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,280 But got the good old boys back today, which is always, always a 24 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:16,800 pleasure. Last time we talked to them was 25 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:21,800 just a little bit post election and kind of feels like a year 26 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,040 has passed. It's been a few months, which is 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,720 the time manipulation is one thing I think everybody can say 28 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,200 is kind of odd right now is just the way time has gone by. 29 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,040 I feel like I've gotten a lot older and there's just always 30 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,680 something every day. But how are how are you guys 31 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,800 doing? I know being a politics podcast 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,920 right now, I mean, you guys are my news network like you, you 33 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,680 guys have news show. I legitimately listen to it 34 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,360 because there's things I, I was like, wow, I didn't even know 35 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,440 that was happening. You know, especially your guys 36 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,360 recent episode with Will Hilde, there were a lot of things I was 37 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:53,960 like, I had no idea that was happening. 38 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,520 But how are you guys doing through all of this? 39 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,840 I mean, it's got to be something every day you guys feel the need 40 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,280 to talk about. Awesome. 41 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:07,800 Yeah, yeah, I I love Will. And if he was never checked him 42 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,840 out, he is like. Do you hear so much about 43 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,720 BlackRock and this and that and this is he's the guy who 44 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,240 actually knows what they're doing. 45 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,920 I mean, he, he's he, he, you know, right now he's probably 46 00:02:21,920 --> 00:02:26,000 outside. What's the Black Rock guy's 47 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,240 name? Fink. 48 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,600 He's probably outside, you know, out parked outside the Fink's 49 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,720 house. You know, they're in the 85 50 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,520 Caprice Classic. There's a, you know, like 45 51 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,720 cigarette butts next to his window. 52 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,240 Whatever. But yeah, I don't know. 53 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,040 It's that's an excellent point about the politics stuff. 54 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,560 You know, we had this, we we, we had to establish that rule this 55 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,720 year. It was like we're if we talk 56 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,840 about everything that's reported in the news about Trump, there's 57 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,560 not that's. That's all you do. 58 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:04,000 So like something has to actually happen, you know, the 59 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:09,600 the penis has to cross the plane to, to, to be considered 60 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,160 population basically, because otherwise he, you know, he he 61 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,200 says all kinds of crazy stuff and yeah, you could chase 62 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:19,880 everything down. I mean, that's kind of, I mean, 63 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,520 he's that's kind of worked on the libs. 64 00:03:21,640 --> 00:03:24,280 I mean, I think he basically does that, you know, to them. 65 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,720 Yeah, I've always said I've, I've had a, an alternate reality 66 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,920 that I've, I've always want to say like to really, if we're 67 00:03:30,920 --> 00:03:34,080 going to maximize AI, which I'm kind of not super into, but if 68 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:35,800 it's here, it's here. I would just say there's, 69 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,920 there's a few people I know that would willingly sign up for the 70 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,360 sign up for this Soylent Green thing where you stay alive. 71 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,120 I'm not advocating for any genocide or anything. 72 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,960 But you, you put on goggles and you just watch Trump get 73 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,120 arrested all the time. And like everybody else just 74 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,400 handles business, like everybody else just goes and lives their 75 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,200 life. Because I, I know people that 76 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,800 just sit around and we have two poster presidents right now. 77 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,160 You know, we have, we have Vice President Vance and Donald 78 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:01,680 Trump. So it's like when there's two 79 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,880 poster presidents, like something is always happening. 80 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,600 And especially if you hate them, you know, like that is like all 81 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,080 day, you get like a feed of them. 82 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,520 And I just I kind of think for some people, they would rather 83 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,520 live in that world. But you, you make a good point 84 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,880 of what you guys are saying, like, let's wait for something 85 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,079 actually to happen. But that's kind of weird when 86 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:22,440 it's like you have people panicking, right? 87 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,360 I know that's kind of a big, big word on on our sphere right now 88 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:31,320 where anytime something happens, people will be maximalist in 89 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,120 terms of, oh, this is the one, this is the one that that screws 90 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:36,880 everything up. You know, this is the, this is 91 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,320 the one. So how do you guys not panic I 92 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:44,600 guess? Exposure just just had long term 93 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,160 exposure to this stuff eventually just got you. 94 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,560 I I when if if I'm talking to somebody and they want to talk 95 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,560 about whatever the new thing on Fox News is it it it's like I 96 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,080 know I can't do it because I've seen I've seen it too many 97 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,400 times. You, you feel the ebb and flow 98 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,400 of the, of the garbage that gets presented to normal people. 99 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,240 And you reach a point where it's like, yeah, yeah. 100 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,360 Well, I think the, the, the nothing ever happens meme guys 101 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,680 have it right? Like your default assumption 102 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,240 should always be nothing ever happens. 103 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,040 And then you'll be pleasantly surprised. 104 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,720 It's kind of a, it's like, it's like a reverse black pill or 105 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,520 it's like, but it's also kind of like on a parallel universe of 106 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,680 black pill. Because it's not like only it's 107 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,200 not like nothing ever happens. It's a bad thing. 108 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,160 It's like, hey, nothing happened. 109 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,280 That's kind of good. Yeah, I mean, there's 300 110 00:05:34,280 --> 00:05:40,320 million people here, like, well, you know, yeah. 111 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,120 Promise maybe? The admission number is like 112 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,320 330. Now this there's probably, of 113 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:52,960 course, 400 million people here. You know it like there things 114 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,400 just change really, really, really slow. 115 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,880 Everything is, you know, the economy like, you know, 116 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:03,920 economically everything is, you know, leveraged against each 117 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,480 other. And then in this way there's 118 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,520 insurance on absolutely everything. 119 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:12,600 Certainly, you know, the bottom will fall out of society one 120 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,720 day, but it'll have to like all go at once. 121 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,800 So it'll be the kind of thing that you don't have to worry 122 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,440 about it, but it like. Things, things don't go slowly. 123 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,480 By the way, what happened is people have gotten technology 124 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,240 has made people's expectations go crazy. 125 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,400 Like if, if you're living, I don't know, 80 years ago, 126 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,840 whatever the, the hot off the press is the morning newspaper, 127 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:38,520 That's your, that's your IV drip for information. 128 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,640 And it was like wireless radio could let you, you hear it not 129 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,960 24 hours a day, but a lot. And then television and then 24 130 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:46,560 hour news network and then social media. 131 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,680 And some people are just hooked into, well, I say some people 132 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,880 like we're, we're all, we're all Twitter politics guys. 133 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,720 We we literally have these entertainment programs talking 134 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,760 about it. Everybody's hooked into this 135 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:03,120 now, you know, like my mom's a a nice boomer lady and she's 136 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,160 looking at Twitter and Facebook and true. 137 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,400 Well, I don't think she looks at true social, but yeah, she said 138 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,240 no. All that nobody can escape it. 139 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:15,560 It has made us speak information, speed demons. 140 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,600 Everybody wants everything that happened now. 141 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,200 I mean, this is not it. That's not a novel concept. 142 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,640 People have been complaining about that my entire life, but I 143 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,920 think that it has legitimately the the social media has 144 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,600 legitimately accelerated the process to the point where it 145 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,720 might be it, it might be becoming unhealthy for people 146 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,800 mentally and physically, but I don't know that there's anything 147 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,560 you can do about that. I think involvement with like 148 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,400 one of the things that I think a lot of people don't really take 149 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,840 into account is like, so I personally, I love politics. 150 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:56,320 I love it. I, I, I would, I, I do. 151 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,200 And I, I think there's a lot of people who they probably, they 152 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,640 don't, they're very interested in, you know, the outcomes and 153 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,600 stuff like that, which I, I totally get that. 154 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,840 But, you know, it's like there's probably guys who you know the, 155 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,360 I don't know if you, I know you guys are sports guys. 156 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,280 I think he's become more popular lately. 157 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:15,600 But I knew him when he was a poker player. 158 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,800 The guy Harabolus Bulgaris. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 159 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,440 Bill, he's about Bill Simmons a lot back in the day, yeah. 160 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,880 Yeah, he was nowhere near doing that when I when, when he was in 161 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,680 my world, the poker world. I mean, he, he, you know, he, he 162 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:32,320 made millions, many, many millions cracking this NBA code. 163 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:38,840 Long story short, they used to Vegas. 164 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,880 They did not update the betting lines at halftime. 165 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,600 So like. Yeah. 166 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,880 No one else found this out so you would literally just wait 167 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:51,320 till halftime and that would give him enough edge to 168 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,680 maximally bet. He made a zillion dollars, but 169 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,480 you know he would be betting on lots like WNBA games and stuff 170 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:57,920 like that. Yeah, I remember that. 171 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,680 So he's highly, highly, highly invested in the outcome of this 172 00:09:02,680 --> 00:09:05,120 game, but he's not interested in watching the game. 173 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:06,640 I think a lot of people are like that. 174 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,560 I am interested in the game. I've, I have volunteered for the 175 00:09:09,560 --> 00:09:15,600 Republican and Democrat Party. I've worked, I worked the voting 176 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,320 at the precinct, like every single time I had my own 177 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,040 precinct and stuff like that. I, I love politics. 178 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,000 I think not everybody is. There's a lot of people you 179 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,400 always think of like these Q people and stuff like that. 180 00:09:27,560 --> 00:09:29,520 I just like, I'm just like binding my lip. 181 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,000 Like, why don't you like? Why don't you try? 182 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,520 Out politics like you don't have like like you, you could go 183 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,840 volunteer your local party or something and like see if you 184 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,560 like it because you're burning a lot of calories doing stuff 185 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:46,640 that's like it's not really politics, but you could. 186 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,600 That's one thing that's like, I think a lot of people don't have 187 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,040 a hard time figuring out like what is politics? 188 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,320 So like, you know, if the Supreme Court get is in session 189 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,080 and they're, they're making statements, you know, you, you, 190 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,440 you probably do want to pay attention to that. 191 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,680 If there's a bill that's in Congress, you don't have to 192 00:10:03,680 --> 00:10:07,040 worry about that shit because there's not nothing gets passed 193 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,600 anymore. Things get passed through budget 194 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:13,360 reconciliation, stuff like that. You know, it is hard to tell 195 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:18,680 because I don't know it is. But the last two presidents have 196 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,800 It's not even that. They're just unfurling a scroll 197 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,480 and doing executive orders by by Fiat. 198 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,880 Like that's, that's the most basic level, the level of 199 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,760 politics the the monarch. The monarch has a proclamation 200 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,680 gathered around. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 201 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,280 I, we, I don't know if we've talked about this before, but 202 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,600 certainly when I was a little kid, it was pretty obvious that 203 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,280 I don't know, I don't know if this is one of these things that 204 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,840 was for all time. I, I, I certainly doubt, I 205 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,200 assumed that lots of people are interested in politics in the 206 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,560 late 60s or stuff like that. But when I was a little kid, it 207 00:10:54,560 --> 00:10:59,440 was pretty obvious that politics was a niche interest. 208 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,600 Like people being heavily interested in politics. 209 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,560 People like my grandma, like she would decide who she's going to 210 00:11:05,560 --> 00:11:07,200 vote for the day before the election. 211 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,000 There was no real party loyalty at all. 212 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,200 Politics. People were you would watch 213 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:26,360 C-SPAN, which is like, I watched it as a kid, and it's just now 214 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,080 it's gone mainstream. But it's like, yeah, I could see 215 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,280 like, you know, they had to change Star Wars to make it 216 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,360 appeal to the broader audience rather than just nerds and 217 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,040 stuff. I don't know if you know the, 218 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,280 the I don't know if you can, you can tune up. 219 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,160 We know what Congress does enough to appeal to a broad 220 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:46,600 audience. I mean, you, you just have to 221 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,000 run these fake stories and stuff. 222 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,600 Most people you, you wouldn't watch these span like I would. 223 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,560 I don't think that makes me better or not. 224 00:11:53,560 --> 00:11:56,240 It's just a, it's, it's a, it's a bizarre interest. 225 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:00,520 I, I don't think it's, it's super important in to people's 226 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,560 individual lives in ways that they think it is. 227 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,160 You have to. Tune up Congress. 228 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,680 Just watch Idiocracy. It's possible. 229 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,200 Well, and you and you and you know, you, you brought up sports 230 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:11,920 earlier. It's kind of like somebody who 231 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,280 shows up to watch the game on Sunday versus somebody who cares 232 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,760 about the damn NFL draft, you know what I'm saying? 233 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,160 Like like, like that, like the nuts and bolts, like the actual 234 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:22,560 stuff that anybody else would go. 235 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,120 Who cares? What time does the game start? 236 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,400 Where are we watching it, you know, or something like that, 237 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,720 like that. But everybody right now feels, I 238 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,400 mean, you feel like it's like that with everything, like 239 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,080 Marvel Comics. Like I had so many people. 240 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,720 I just emerged from COVID with Marvel T-shirts randomly and I 241 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,120 was like, oh, yeah, because you streamed everything. 242 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,360 You, you streamed whatever the hell was on the, the, the 243 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,440 streaming networks, Mandalorian or any of these things like 244 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,200 these, the Disney Plus, all, all these franchises. 245 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:48,840 And these are people I knew that I'm like, man, you never 246 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,000 mentioned no comic books when we were growing up, Like, like, 247 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:51,960 what the hell? What the hell? 248 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:57,360 But now with politics, everybody has everybody has an ideology. 249 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,600 And this is not new ground. I think this is like really 250 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,200 post, post Trump, honestly, I think Trump was the one thing 251 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,680 where everybody woke up and goes what? 252 00:13:04,680 --> 00:13:07,080 That guy's president, Like that's crazy. 253 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,760 Like I'm going to start paying attention to politics now 254 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,760 because that guy, the guy from the TV when I was a kid is, is 255 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:17,040 the president and I, I, it's for the, it's not for the better, I 256 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,120 don't think like it's not for the better, but it's kind of 257 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,000 inevitable. And the reason I bring this up 258 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,480 and unfortunately Psy can't be here tonight. 259 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,160 He's, he's got a, he's got some family stuff going on. 260 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,480 It's all good stuff, guys. So if you guys are speculated, 261 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,520 it's all good things. But nonetheless, he's, he's 262 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:38,120 busy, but he, him and I have been talking and he has had some 263 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,480 opposite. He's a, he's a principled man. 264 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,640 This guy's a principled man. I mean, he, I mean, there isn't 265 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,000 a container. He doesn't read the backup 266 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,240 before he eats it there. He's, you know, just just as 267 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,120 principled as it gets. I think Paul, the game politics 268 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:57,400 to him sucks where you make concessions, you make deals, 269 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,880 you, you do all of this. And the reason I say all that 270 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:03,120 right now is when the bill came out, the big beautiful bill, he 271 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,920 was like, there's a lot of horse shit in there is what he said, 272 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,080 You know, and I'm like, yeah, no, there is. 273 00:14:08,560 --> 00:14:10,520 And then, you know, with the Epstein stuff, he's like, well, 274 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,320 why would they announce the Epstein thing? 275 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,000 Like, why would they announce with the whole like Cash Patel? 276 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,600 And why would Trump use that as any sort of campaign thing if he 277 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,680 wasn't going to actually, you know, pursue it in a in what we 278 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,560 think? You know, I know they released, 279 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,640 they said nothing happened, then he killed himself, but you get 280 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:32,280 the idea. It got squashed and he, but for 281 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,160 somebody like that, I, I, I think with, with what the way 282 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,440 you guys talk about politics, I think you guys are rather 283 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,440 objective, even though to him it's probably not very fun. 284 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,960 That that's the truth. You know the game. 285 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,960 The patronage element, I guess, is what I'm getting at. 286 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,720 I, I have to keep people close to me that are principled 287 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:54,080 because I, you know, I realize I don't have, I don't really have 288 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,600 principles, but I don't, it's. 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And, you know, a lot of like, 311 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,560 you know, it would take, it would take forever to explain. 312 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:01,160 I, I, I actually have more this, this maybe this is like a, a 5D 313 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,960 thing or whatever. I have moral problems with, with 314 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,120 the idea of a politician with principles. 315 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,560 That's how messed up I am. But, you know, I, I am kind of 316 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:15,080 deep, deep into this, like, like so yeah. 317 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,840 The world can't exist without people with principles. 318 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:25,000 I mean, you know, I was I was reading in the past week about, 319 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,600 you know, the Battle of Midway and you know, Merrick, do you 320 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,600 know about, you know, the the big counter attack of Carrier 321 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,040 here, here you of with the Japanese. 322 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,200 Yeah, when it was after all the other carriers were sank, they 323 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,760 went in pretty much on the suicide mission. 324 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:46,600 They chart like it was. It was so they have there's one 325 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:53,200 fleet of Japanese ships was it was the the dominant like it 326 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,480 was, it was their their queen in a game of chess like this fleet 327 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,520 was bullying the entire Pacific Ocean. 328 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:03,800 It was 4 carriers and you know, Midway goes down. 329 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,960 It's the most famous battle of the war in naval and they have 4 330 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,160 carriers. 3 of the carriers are destroyed. 331 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:17,400 There's one carrier left. Any like any person, you have to 332 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,800 take that carrier back to Japan like you have to. 333 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,119 It's the only carrier you have left. 334 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:27,480 However, his, you know, those three, the three other ships, 335 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,560 they got sunk. Those men died. 336 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:35,440 And you know, the commanders by the way, and the US carriers got 337 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,120 the attack off and left. We, we got it, we got it, we got 338 00:17:38,120 --> 00:17:40,040 it good. And then we sent in our surface 339 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,680 ships, which these ships at this point were considered 340 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,120 expendable. Like it's they're they're not 341 00:17:46,120 --> 00:17:50,840 valuable and they sent them in and the Japanese commander of 342 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,640 the ship was like, I'm going to die on this battlefield charged 343 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,080 him. He's in a carrier. 344 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,760 A carrier is not useful in like a close range engagement with a 345 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:05,080 battleship, but he charges him and and he went down with the 346 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:09,560 ship, by the way, like, you know, it caught on fire and it 347 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,480 takes hours and hours, sometimes days for these ships to sink. 348 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:14,800 They had plenty had plenty of time to leave. 349 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,720 No, he went down and died on the ship because that's what you 350 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,920 did. You're honorable person that so 351 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:27,400 armies cannot function with without both a people that that 352 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,400 hopefully can say no, you must come back. 353 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,080 They didn't radios didn't work very well. 354 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,680 You've got maybe even turned off his radio people did stuff like 355 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,720 that but no you need to come back. 356 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:41,160 We have to have that carrier, but people people don't the guys 357 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:47,080 you want fighting and the war. You want people you want people 358 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,640 like your Co host here because. Yeah, he'll, he'll die. 359 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,360 He's going to be the guy that dies for the podcast. 360 00:18:52,360 --> 00:18:53,400 I like this. This is great. 361 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,920 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I, I, I hate to torpedo 362 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:04,320 a good analogy, but like the counter attack was like the the 363 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,320 correct doctrine. You need, you needed to. 364 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,640 If you're him, you need to attack because you're not, 365 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:13,240 you're you're either going to get away or you're not going to 366 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,480 get away. And sinking like one or two 367 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:21,000 American carriers would mattered more than the hero you 368 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,520 surviving. It's like it it it, it was, it 369 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,920 was doctrinally correct. However, there was a good. 370 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,880 It was a good. Understand there was a point 371 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,920 where he knew that the the the carriers were gone, a surface 372 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,480 fleet was incoming and it was going to be them versus surface 373 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,280 fleet. OK. 374 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,040 But anyway, he he did, he does. He did go down with the ship, 375 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,840 Yeah. He certainly had a choice to 376 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,600 leave it. But yeah, you're you're right. 377 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,560 You do have to have every society needs people with 378 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,920 principles. And I don't think this is a 379 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,280 either or proposition. What happens is in the early 380 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:59,800 stages of a civilization or a nation or or an empire, the the 381 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,920 principles in the politics are. Pretty closely aligned because 382 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,680 they're a lot simpler you're you're when you're, and when 383 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,240 you're doing, when you're doing nothing but expanding, it's very 384 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,520 easy to adhere to your principles and still get the job 385 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,600 done because there's so much there's the pie is so big, it's 386 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:20,440 easy to give everybody a piece. The once the the empire starts 387 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,240 shrinking, then you reach the, you know, the, the, the two guys 388 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,680 on the lifeboat and they're deciding how to divvy up the 389 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:26,800 food. They're going to decide who 390 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,040 lives and dies. And that's a totally different 391 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,600 situation. And the the wrong kind of people 392 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:38,920 prosper in during decline because they're good at doing 393 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,840 this. They don't, they don't have any 394 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:45,320 compunction, which my colleague might say that he doesn't, but 395 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,560 that's he's that that's exaggeration. 396 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:52,760 He has a very good eye for for objectively analyzing politics, 397 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,480 but he's a good person. But the people who are in charge 398 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,280 of our country are not good people. 399 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,040 They're, they're pure evil. They don't care about anything 400 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,680 but themselves. As we, we, if you lived in the 401 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,120 21st century, you already understand. 402 00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:09,200 You don't even need someone to explain it to you anymore. 403 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:15,680 After years of lockdowns, sexual abuse scandals, wars, they're 404 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,080 they're horrible people. Yeah, I mean, that's, and that's 405 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,120 where ultimately where I stand. It's like, look, you, you, you 406 00:21:22,120 --> 00:21:24,840 believe in God, though My my principles are with God, you 407 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,040 know what I'm saying? And I have them. 408 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,160 I have them for the country too. Like there's certain things 409 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,240 where most of it's pharma related, most of it's free 410 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,200 speech related, where I'm like any real infringement on any of 411 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,520 those two, I'm usually, I'm usually Mel Gibson and the 412 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,680 Patriot. You know, I'm retiring from 413 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,040 making rotten rocking chairs and, and, and, and getting out 414 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,200 and getting active and stuff. But I, I, you know, for him, 415 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,320 when, when he, I, I guess what you know, and to anybody who's 416 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,440 listening who doesn't know what this is, there's no reason to 417 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:54,760 log on the Internet and find out. 418 00:21:55,520 --> 00:22:00,600 But there are a lot of people who now that Trump has taken 419 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:05,040 power, again, if you are to criticize even from somebody who 420 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,240 wanted him to win, right, Somebody who wanted him to win. 421 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,360 But if you are to say like, I don't, I don't like this. 422 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,640 I don't like that. Not that I preferred Kamala 423 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,960 Harris because again, it's kind of a straw man. 424 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,920 When when when some people say that I just don't like a lot of 425 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,680 the hive mind of like you're like, oh, secret Lib tard, 426 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,800 secret Lib tard. It's like, I mean, it's it's a 427 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,480 take. And you guys talked about this 428 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,800 recently on your show. Kind of just like it's OK to 429 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,680 spaz out a little bit. You know what I mean? 430 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,200 It's like, I mean, you're not at the end of the day, it's going 431 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,360 to I mean, what would it take for anybody to go back to the 432 00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:39,200 Democrat Party? Like you'd need a lobotomy, 433 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,840 you'd need a factory reset. You would need some sci-fi thing 434 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,880 to have that happen. I mean, they're mutilating 435 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,840 children and doing all of these, you know, actively telling you 436 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,480 that your kids don't belong to you and all these all of these 437 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:51,840 horrible things. I mean, if you want to talk 438 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,720 about lack of principles, I just know the whole like panic thing 439 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,640 where it's like, hey, like if you're trusting the plan, just 440 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,960 kind of kick back for a little bit and you know, like, let the 441 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,640 plan unfold. Like, don't worry about what the 442 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,240 people on the Internet are saying, you know? 443 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,280 You asked the vital question. You asked the vital question 444 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,080 though, what would it take to get people to go back to the 445 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,080 Democrats? And the answer to that is really 446 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,600 simple. A better deal. 447 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,920 They just have to, if the Democrats get their get their 448 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,960 shit together and offer people who aren't illegal immigrants 449 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:25,480 and professional class women something and and obviously 450 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,280 minorities when it comes to the stuff like civil rights law. 451 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,520 If they ever did that, they could, they could be right back 452 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,120 on top because that's what people, that's what people 453 00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:37,880 brings people to vote. So, so you know, that's the 454 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,440 answer. So, but panicking doesn't 455 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,680 prevent that or help that. So there's no point in doing 456 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,800 that. I mean, it's fun to, it's fun to 457 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,880 chip out on politicians who serve you because you, that you, 458 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,160 that's the complaint. But right. 459 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,760 Like, that's the relationship, yeah, but. 460 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,560 Chipping out on each other. There's no point doing it. 461 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,320 That's what I mean like, like, I know, I know this for a fact. 462 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,720 I know a lot of the people who are saying that like they're in 463 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,920 in no way a threat to be going back to the Democrat Party. 464 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,800 And then it just because of this division, that's not necessary. 465 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,720 I mean, I don't think it has electoral implications of what 466 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,120 people are saying. I don't even think it affected 467 00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:14,720 midterms. I think it's just I'm sorry, 468 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,080 we're in a cesspool of social media with a bunch of avatars 469 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,320 and somebody says, I don't like this and somebody says, hey, 470 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,000 fuck you. You know, it's like, that's 471 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,480 fine. But just this whole like, and if 472 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,400 we lose in 2022, this is on you for panicking in seven months. 473 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,720 And I guess that's a weird like, I feel like, like I feel like 474 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,960 that's almost not used to winning people not used to 475 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,880 winning people that act like that, you know what I'm saying? 476 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,040 And. So I, I mean, I, I, I'm all the 477 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,000 way there with you. So I mean, I can make a strong 478 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:47,800 defense for, for even, you know, for, for all the way. 479 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:54,120 So you know who's the blonde Republican commentator? 480 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,960 Narrow it down, buddy. Very skinny. 481 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,280 Very. Tommy Lahren. 482 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,800 Nah, she's tall. She's probably in her 50s. 483 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,600 Ann Coulter. Coulter. 484 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,160 Coulter Game. The Queen, the Deadhead dude. 485 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:09,040 Yeah, absolutely. Ann Coulter did nothing but 486 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,320 bitch and complain about Trump for like, I don't know, the last 487 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,000 10 years and every Trump supporter benefit from that 488 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,480 massively, massively. We all benefit that from that 489 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:27,800 massively because she was complaining about things that 490 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:33,240 were echoing bases a lot of people in his bases thoughts, 491 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,320 and it would be very a lot of those people would have been 492 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,480 like, I guarantee you a lot of that that stuff she said. 493 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,160 There's people, you know, boring people or you know, a Jack 494 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,680 Posobiak or or guys like that who who who need to maintain 495 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,840 like a who they they probably have relationships with the 496 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,120 White House and stuff. Oh, I mean, I can go a step 497 00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:54,720 further. There's people who work for 498 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,000 Trump that under their breath when when people like that or 499 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,760 Tucker lately when they're when they're giving in the business 500 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,640 are thinking to themselves like, yeah, good. 501 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:09,880 Because well, there there's a guy that there's a guy that 502 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,240 wrote a book that that he did his thought experiment. 503 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,680 It's like it's like, OK, what can I do as an individual person 504 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:23,080 that doesn't run for politics to to mold, to have the biggest 505 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,840 impact as an individual, not as a someone that's organizing a 506 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,080 group or, or something like that, But what kind of my 507 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,440 biggest impact can be. It's like, OK, you can vote. 508 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,040 It's like what what would have a bit a much bigger impact than 509 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,680 vote? And it was basically more or 510 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:42,680 less like spreading his number 1, he said to spread rumors 511 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,920 online that a politician you want to lose is ill, that 512 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,440 they're sick. And the idea was that this is 513 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,720 true. You notice this happens to both 514 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,000 candidates in every single presidential election. 515 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,320 That's not a vote thing. That is a thing to to try to 516 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,040 freak out like the billionaires and stuff because they're afraid 517 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,080 that they donate money to them, though that money becomes 518 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,600 expired Ious basically. But the other one was basically 519 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,240 write angry letters to to politicians saying I'm never 520 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,200 going to vote for you again, you son of a bitch. 521 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,400 Because in everything I've ever read, all the patron stuff, like 522 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,160 it's all based on the idea that a politician's goal was to 523 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,800 survive. And, and they're that's they're 524 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,160 thinking that all the time. They've got all kinds of people 525 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,800 yelling at them all the time, but and they can never know 526 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,880 exactly how many people are angry. 527 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:39,200 And that does speak to them in a way that well, how well, how do 528 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,040 you like, how would you have a reasonable conversation with 529 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:46,280 Trump, the Trump, the the White House itself about complaints? 530 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,560 You can't really, you can go online and you can say I'm never 531 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,520 going to vote for you again. You but you son of a bitch and 532 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,960 stuff like this. And that unfortunately that that 533 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,600 is the way for some people that that probably I'm sending to 534 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,400 you. But it's certainly not, not, not 535 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,160 wrong to complain by the way, regardless of all the political 536 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,720 crap. I mean, it was, it is very like 537 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,720 stupid. And they they were all this Cash 538 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:19,200 Patel and this Pam Bondi and one of these other characters. 539 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,280 They were teasing this stuff even after he had won. 540 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,920 Like, if you like, you know, the, the snake in me would be 541 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,880 fine. It'd be like, hey, you know, 542 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,880 hey, we need a couple more votes where things are looking shaky. 543 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,840 Just tell them. Don't promise them this. 544 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,680 You know, I, I, I, I, I can that that's not, you know, that's not 545 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,920 highly honorable thing, but I. Don't think it did though. 546 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,280 I, I honestly don't even, I think that was such an unforced 547 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,240 error because I just don't think that was a deciding factor for a 548 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,880 lot of people. They kept doing it even after 549 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,520 the election. Yeah, exactly. 550 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,640 That's why, That's why. That's the part I like, I 551 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,400 struggle with where I'm like, it ain't about. 552 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,920 And we're going to talk about a guy later. 553 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,760 We're going to put him through our our ringer, you know, like a 554 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,880 little bit later. It's a part of this. 555 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,240 But you think about it, you're just like, to me, like it's like 556 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,000 the class pizza party thing, right? 557 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,120 Like when you're a kid, it's like you have you can't fathom 558 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,520 having a pizza party unless your teacher mentions that there's a 559 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:10,960 possibility of having a pizza party. 560 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,280 Yeah, I hate using the pizza analogy for this, but you know 561 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,680 what I mean? Like it's just, it's just like 562 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,520 like you, you, your teacher goes well, if we get, you know, if 563 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,160 you guys get your head out of your ass, you'll get you know, 564 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,920 we'll do this and then, you know, you got teacher pretty 565 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,600 much has to do it at that point if the needs are met, you know 566 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,800 what I mean? I don't think any most people 567 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,960 were voting for Trump because of mass immigration. 568 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,160 All you know, a lot of these other things, the exit polls, I 569 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,640 I, I they mirror what I've heard from people too. 570 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,840 I most people I know that are deep into the FC and shit, I 571 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,120 mean deep into it. Don't vote like they just don't. 572 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,160 Because when you get down to that, it's kind of a weird 573 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,240 bipartisan thing that black pills you a little bit. 574 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,400 And I'm not hating on anyone to do it. 2018. 575 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:57,080 I was right there like you just I, I don't know, like if that 576 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,200 part feels weird to me, like is, is this whole element of it. 577 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,960 But I think you were making a larger point out of that. 578 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,480 But I I just wanted to say something. 579 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,200 That's a great point. I mean, I always used to bring 580 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:11,360 up one of my my favorite political podcast ever was Dan 581 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:16,320 Carlin's now closed one. Not Hardcore History, but. 582 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,800 Common sense. Common sense. 583 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,840 And, you know, he, he, he laid out this, this his political, 584 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,440 his political program in there. And his program was this, he 585 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:34,960 said that there's no real point to follow any kind of politics 586 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:40,600 other than the only politics that would matter at all would 587 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:47,240 be some kind of legal, some kind of legal crackdown on the United 588 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:54,120 States intelligence community. That basically they were so 589 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,120 powerful that that it would be like, you know, it would be like 590 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,640 voting, the voting for the president, like voting for the 591 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,520 mayor of Moscow. And that's all the power you 592 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,040 have in while living under, you know, Stalinist, the Soviet 593 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,600 Union. It's like there's not really 594 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,880 anything that matters. And, and because these people 595 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,760 sort of run, run everything. I thought that was that I, I 596 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:23,640 really, that is, you know, that's not a, that's not a 597 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,320 terrible way to go. I mean I don't agree with it, 598 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,480 but but you could do a hell of a lot worse. 599 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,840 Carlin Carlin was really, I mean, really we, we have a 600 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,880 podcast because we like to Dan Carlin. 601 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,640 We got the idea for him. We try, we, we tried to do it a 602 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,400 couple times and we never really got it down. 603 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:48,720 But it's really sad that the way he became, he became famous and 604 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,360 then he got TDs. Like, I mean, he still puts out 605 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,520 common sense. He put one out like, I don't 606 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,080 know, two or three months ago, but they're just yeah, but you 607 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,480 don't want to listen to because I. 608 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:01,960 Don't have a lot of common sense, does it? 609 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:07,560 But exactly the The thing is, you can you can never go wrong 610 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,440 saying like for your one thing to be. 611 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,320 I hate the intelligence services because inevitably an empire, 612 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,640 the secret police become they either become an important 613 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,920 faction, which that's obviously already happened, or worse yet, 614 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,760 they just take over the country. And, you know, there are people 615 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:30,560 who have conspiracy theories about that, that I, I, I have no 616 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,080 problem accepting. It's very, I mean, we had this, 617 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,640 the director of the CIA was the president and from from what, 618 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:41,120 889 to 93 is. George Bush, right? 619 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:41,840 Yeah. Yeah. 620 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,520 So, you know, you could, yeah, I could see that argument. 621 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:51,720 But the the problem is this creates in people an idea that 622 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:57,200 like the CIA intelligence services are, are all powerful 623 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,640 Superman. And I don't, I think that's a 624 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,560 big mistake because I think that we've seen a lot of things in 625 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:08,280 the last couple years that point to them actually not being very 626 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,480 good at their job, which that could be a white pill or a black 627 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,600 pill, depending. On what event? 628 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,560 What are you talking about? Like specifically events. 629 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,920 Just just their their overall behavior, the their if they're 630 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,560 like like that, like the Epstein case would be a perfect one. 631 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,920 If this was a cover up conspiracy, it was performed 632 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:32,720 extremely badly. Like you, you, you had to kill 633 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:37,160 this guy in a federal facility with the entire world watching. 634 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,720 That's, I mean that's not a super all powerful CIA. 635 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:46,680 That's like the mafia. That's not exactly high impact, 636 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,480 high impact and low visibility. You got him with a taxi like 637 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,480 Tesla man, you got to fucking nail him with a taxi after. 638 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,760 Yeah, where was the heart attack gun for for this? 639 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,040 Yeah, exactly. You got to hit him with a taxi, 640 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,440 a heart attack gun. I mean, it's it's that playbook. 641 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,120 I feel like it's West Coast offense at this point. 642 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,720 I feel like it still works. But the problem, you know, the 643 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,600 problem is you can't say it's a white, all these guys are idiots 644 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,560 because if they're running the country and they're idiots, 645 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,080 that's a whole, that's a whole new passel of problems. 646 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,159 Right. No, I, I agree. 647 00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:19,000 I, I think it's, I think ultimately with me as I separate 648 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,920 the two, I am conspiratorial like that, like I, I am long 649 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,880 term, like I just knew there were a few things, there were a 650 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,159 few issues that I was like, no, that's a partisan issue. 651 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,520 And it's like obviously a partisan issue. 652 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,560 A good. And that's why I was like, at 653 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,040 the end of the day, like I might have my criticisms, but it's 654 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,199 like what I am in no danger of ever. 655 00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:44,520 I mean, case in point today, I sit down and listen to my 656 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,800 governor. Yes, I have to say he's my 657 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,080 governor. I'm not doing the not my 658 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,040 president. He is my governor of my state of 659 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,600 California. Gavin Newsom sat down with a 660 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,880 former CIA guy named Shawn Ryan. I've never seen anything Shawn 661 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,800 Ryan had ever done before. I don't know what to think of 662 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,200 him. I do think he needs to hire a a 663 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,720 Jamie type like Rogan has because Gavin Newsom was just 664 00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:08,800 saying wrong things constantly that could have easily 665 00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:11,720 BeenVerified to his own face. But neither here nor there. 666 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,560 You know, Newsom is this guy right now that is trying to 667 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:20,880 capitalize on what looks like chaos right now from Trump. 668 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,120 Like, like, I don't know. I don't view it as super chaotic 669 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,000 other than maybe a few minor things, but I think to any 670 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,720 Democrat right now or what Newsom's trying to represent 671 00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:34,360 now, Newsom is a legitimate like left, like radical left person. 672 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,280 Like his policies are like what radical left people think like a 673 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,080 lot of times. He's made no mistake. 674 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,240 He's like, that's what I studied, that's what I wanted to 675 00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:44,160 be when I grew up as like a radical left kind of politician. 676 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,800 His favorite politician of all time is RFK Senior. 677 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,920 He's just one of those people who wants to do that. 678 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,400 But he understands that the Democrat Party has a 679 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,480 testosterone problem. Now. 680 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,920 I believe he does too. But he can cosplay a little bit. 681 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:02,680 He can do the kind of sitting in the chair, inquisitively 682 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,440 enlightened conversation with somebody I don't agree with. 683 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,400 I, I talked to America about this. 684 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,600 But Bob, did you see anything from that, from that interview 685 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,640 at all? No, no, I haven't. 686 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,480 Well, that's a real funny way how they and I should have 687 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,280 downloaded the clip, but they started the podcast off Sean. 688 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,960 I don't know if this is the thing he does with all his 689 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,800 guests, but he got them a he got Gavin Newsom a gift. 690 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,400 He got him a Sig Sauer pistol and just handed it to him and 691 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,560 Newsom goes, I love these and he's like really nervous because 692 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,040 it's like, obviously you don't, but, or at least politically you 693 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,720 don't. He says he's wins all these 694 00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:40,160 awards for skeet shooting and stuff. 695 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,120 I'm I love guns, but we just I do common sense gun stuff. 696 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,560 Oh, common sense guy, you know, and he does all of these. 697 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,360 The he kind of it's weird. He's adopted this new kind of 698 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,840 like Biden, like what do you mean? 699 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,160 What are you talking about? He says adopted this now and he 700 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,760 did not used to talk like that. They are gearing him for the 701 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,360 run. And now I think this was 702 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,240 supposed to happen many years ago, the run for president. 703 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,000 I think in 2020 it was supposed to happen. 704 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,920 But he really was, he really is not a very good politician. 705 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,400 And I would like to know, Bob, with your objective, non 706 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,960 principled view, and I don't say that as a pejorative, do you 707 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,600 think Gavin Newsom is a good politician? 708 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,200 I wonder if you gave him a 320 because that would be pretty 709 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,000 funny. I can look that up. 710 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,520 I don't I don't know anything about guns. 711 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,240 But Bob, I want to hear your answer and I'll let you guys 712 00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:27,560 know what he gave him. Yeah, So First off, so every 713 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,480 Sean, Sean Ryan's podcast with like, you know, the like all the 714 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,640 military guys, it's always like really good anything with 715 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,080 politics. He is a massive bullshitter. 716 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,920 This. Guy, he's not very good. 717 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,080 The guy bullshits all the time. He always says like I'm in the 718 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:44,960 in my next. Sorry, it was a three six. 719 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:52,200 It was a six hour, P 365. The 3:20 is is been the Army 720 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,440 bought like 5 billion of them and they've been proven they'll 721 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:55,600 they'll blow up and kill you. Yeah. 722 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,760 It's that would that should be funny. 723 00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:00,000 Based. Yeah, I know. 724 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,440 Like Looney Tunes? Yeah, yeah. 725 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:12,560 So the, well, First off, I'd say the the the guy who has Newsom's 726 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,440 number the best is Adam Corolla. He is the best. 727 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,120 He's the opposite of him. Everyone should go look up the 728 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,040 interview that that. I can't believe that he agreed 729 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:27,480 to go on a Corolla's show when Corolla was, I think he was just 730 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,200 on radio at that time. Corolla just destroyed him. 731 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,560 You know, Corolla's whole thing. And that's where I'm going with 732 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:37,360 is that he doesn't have thoughts like he, he, he doesn't have us. 733 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,160 Now I, I, if I live there, I feel like I could give a better 734 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,920 interpretation, but I, I, I've always considered like, I've 735 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,120 always very much because there is a thing. 736 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,800 I, I always bring up someone like Boogie 2988, you know, 737 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,160 that's this guy. No. 738 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:58,840 So there's this thing that's like, it's, it's, it's not a bad 739 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:03,720 idea to look at someone and estimate their charisma based on 740 00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:05,640 how they look. It's it's it's a. 741 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,000 I'm looking at them. Yeah, I know. 742 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,520 I OK. Good thing you told me that. 743 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:13,440 It's like, you know that it's a pretty decent guide, but it's 744 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,360 certainly not foolproof. I think Republicans, we learned 745 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,280 this with the the Mormon guy. Romney. 746 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,680 Romney Romney looks like 1,000,000 bucks in terms of like 747 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:26,720 a presidential guy. It's a. 748 00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:31,280 Retired athlete, like kind of guy, like, you know, like Steve 749 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,280 Garvey. Steve Garvey type looking guy, 750 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,080 Yeah. Yeah, if you're making like a, 751 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,160 you know, a Jerry Bruckheimer film, you want like him to be 752 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,000 the president, that movie or you always think of there's a guy 753 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,080 Boogie 2988. People listen to this, they'll 754 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,840 probably know one of these. This guy is just a sack of shit, 755 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,120 man. He's like, and that's his thing. 756 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:57,600 I mean he like like he's ugly, he's fat, he's a liar, He's just 757 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,720 a not a good person in any way possible. 758 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:07,080 However, like and I I think it's like unmistakable, like, you 759 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:11,400 know, if this guy flips onto the a webcam, millions of people 760 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,080 want to watch him. There's a level charisma that he 761 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,080 has that there's plenty of of. I can show people there's plenty 762 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,000 of very, very handsome people that can't get more than than 763 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,880 100 views on their YouTube videos. 764 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:30,160 And this is this is magnified in in politics and politics. 765 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,280 I'm telling you, being good looking helps. 766 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,880 It certainly helps with with the ladies and stuff like that, but 767 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,480 it is you got to be careful. You got to be careful because 768 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:40,680 people like you just look at him. 769 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,280 You think, OK, I'm sure that guy's super charismatic. 770 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,080 He might not be. However, I would not want to 771 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,440 miss underestimate him. And I do think the libs could 772 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:55,440 probably go, they could do worse in terms of like having like a, 773 00:40:55,560 --> 00:41:00,880 a, a just like an avatar for the left in terms of like what he 774 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,600 comes from, You know, what if people aren't big into Epstein, 775 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,320 I'm sure they listen. They're probably into Darrell 776 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,000 Cooper. Darrell Cooper's done a lot of 777 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,360 stuff on the sort of Bay Area radical left scene. 778 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:20,520 That's not something, you know, Jim Jones and Angela Davis and 779 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,200 and by the way, Willie Brown and and all this kind of stuff like 780 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:31,280 like that. These people became they were in 781 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,640 a lot of ways they were. It's not just like they. 782 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,600 Took over the country, yeah. Yeah, they did. 783 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:41,480 Yeah, and they are like the most influential people like, if not 784 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,640 like like, like, you know, exactly in terms of whatever, 785 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,960 there's some guy donates a lot. But these are the sort of the, 786 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:51,120 the rock stars that, that people like, you know, people that went 787 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,960 and to to college, they got pH DS in, in political science 788 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,720 stuff and their managing campaigns and stuff. 789 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,560 They were the people they looked up to as, as the, you know, the, 790 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,640 the, the rock stars and stuff. And he was there, man. 791 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,840 I don't know, like, I'm not like he was very young. 792 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,160 He was, he volunteered Willie Brown and stuff like that. 793 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,560 But like, like all that stuff was there. 794 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:16,840 And so in that way, I almost, I almost feel like, you know, that 795 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,920 is what you guys are like. Like, I mean, not, not, I mean, 796 00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:23,680 the Democrat Party is and can be a lot of things. 797 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,000 I mean, it's a huge country and it's not just one thing or the 798 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,920 other, but like as far as the big power bases and stuff, the 799 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,880 Lib Inc or whatever. I mean, they could do worse in 800 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,120 terms of, and I, I'm not saying that is a positive thing. 801 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,960 I, I think it's AI think what, what went on there in the 60s in 802 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,520 the Bay Area was evil. But well, that's what it I don't 803 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,440 know. The issue a little, a little 804 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,480 inside baseball, I guess. But the issue here is if he 805 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,760 wants to, if he wants to get the nomination to be for Democrats 806 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:56,680 to be president, he has to cut a deal with Clyburn and, or, or, I 807 00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:00,400 mean, if Clyburn, Clyburn is an old man, it's possible by the 808 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,040 time that we we get into the primary that he won't be 809 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,200 involved in politics anymore. He has to get the, the Black 810 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,440 Caucus to support him because whoever wins South Carolina is 811 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,160 probably going to win the nomination. 812 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,000 And that's his problem. He's he's very weak there. 813 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,800 However, he's a slimy guy. He might, he might make some 814 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,720 promises and, and get the, and get the thumbs up. 815 00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:25,800 And as as Glenn pointed out where he and I were talking 816 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,000 about earlier, the coverage pretty bare for them right now. 817 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,280 I don't see any any, any shining stars at the moment. 818 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,600 So, you know, they could, they could do worse than this guy. 819 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:43,120 But he's he's no Obama. No, I mean, like I said, if he 820 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,880 was they would have they he he would have done a couple years 821 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,280 as the governor and he would I think they would have ran him 822 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,960 right, right away in 2020 if that was the case. 823 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:56,080 Now a couple some background now, Newsom gave a very 824 00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,800 interesting life story to Sean Ryan on this podcast. 825 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,600 It was. So he talks about coming from 826 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,320 nothing. That's what he's saying. 827 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,520 I came from nothing, single mom, San Francisco. 828 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,600 So I was like, I don't think that's right. 829 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,080 Like, you know, whatever. So apparently his dad was a 830 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,400 legal advisor to the Italian division of Getty Oil and he was 831 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,080 a tax attorney for the Getty family. 832 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,280 So all right, right then and there, you come from nothing. 833 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,360 Now, his dad went schizo. And this is true. 834 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,920 After doing LSD experiments at Stanford University, he just had 835 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,000 a straight up nervous breakdown and moved to Lake Tahoe and left 836 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,600 his entire family. I, I, I, you know, this guy 837 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,680 becomes a judge after that, by the way, an American judge. 838 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,640 That's just what he just becomes a judge after that. 839 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,560 So there's a lot of weird blanks that come in there. 840 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,880 There's a lot of operation paper clip, a lot of stuff happening 841 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,120 that he obviously didn't, didn't bring in. 842 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,840 But he's like, yeah, and I'm learning all these new things 843 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,080 about my dad. He was do an LSD at Stanford 844 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,360 under these like and even Shawn Ryan's like is that MK Ultra? 845 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,960 And he's like, yeah, I don't know, maybe that's it could be 846 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,320 and what whatever. You know, Newsom then I think 847 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,760 somehow gets in. I don't know how, but he gets in 848 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,520 with the Pelosi family. I buy some sort of marriage, 849 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,920 marriage kind of thing. He he basically that's how he 850 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,960 did play the game right in that way. 851 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,760 Now, like, you know, his dad and him, he says they didn't have 852 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,160 any kind of relationship. But I guarantee you anything, 853 00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:23,680 any interview you walk into, you say I'm William Alfred Newsome, 854 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,920 the third son as your as your leading thing. 855 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,400 I would imagine that's what you do when you're in there. 856 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,440 The problem is it's like man, you're like, like you said, he 857 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,040 has everything that you would need to be the next Obama. 858 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,840 Obviously not the race thing, but for the most part, I don't 859 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,960 know you, you you think he he he also like he'd said, he's like, 860 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,560 I'm dyslexic. I can't read basically like off 861 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,040 paper. So he then spends that to say, 862 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,200 well, I'm going to say what's on my mind all the time. 863 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:51,680 I don't I can't read a teleprompter. 864 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,360 So he's trying to be like funny, he's cussing during the 865 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,320 interviews. He's doing all of these all of 866 00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:02,160 these things to try to appeal to like the steak eating American 867 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,000 who might be flustered with what's happening right now. 868 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:06,720 I don't think it's going to work. 869 00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:10,320 And I think a lot of more people are outside of California are 870 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,920 more scared of him than the people who live here who don't 871 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,040 like him. And I'll be honest with you, 872 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,320 I've been to a lot of people's houses in California. 873 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,640 I've been to the Omni Libtards house in California. 874 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,640 I'm not going to name their name, but they are the Omni 875 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,560 Libtard. They are the all seeing one, the 876 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,800 one that that just is, has everything you could think of. 877 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,480 RBG Coasters, everything. Not one picture of Gavin Newsom 878 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,760 in the house. He's he's just not that popular. 879 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:40,480 The specter of the right wing takeover for Gavin Newsom is the 880 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,120 selling point to Gavin Newsom, which means they don't like you 881 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,000 that much. And he was, I think Larry Elder 882 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,440 was trying to take his spot for a while. 883 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,880 Lost, got his ass kicked. I mean, it wasn't even, it 884 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,360 wasn't even close, but it wasn't people weren't excited about 885 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,720 Gavin Newsom. He's just this known commodity 886 00:46:55,720 --> 00:46:59,000 because he basically invented gay marriage in America. 887 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,920 I mean he did like that's that's that was what made him a a star 888 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,520 was gay marriage. That was that was his biggest 889 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,000 thing at the city level. And again in the in the I like 890 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,640 the city a lot, but it is objectively the the gayest city 891 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,640 on Earth, San Francisco. He got that done and then that 892 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,600 became Proposition 8 in California. 893 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,880 And then we are where we are now. 894 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,080 Well, however you feel about that's however you feel about 895 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,160 that, That's like the only thing he's really done that people 896 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:30,840 actually like because he floated out by 2035, no gas cars. 897 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,520 We don't want that. That's not going to happen. 898 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,800 But he's like, he floats out these ideas that are deeply 899 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,080 unpopular even within his own coalition. 900 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,040 I think it's, it's just, it's odd like he, he actually has a 901 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,640 lot of radical left ideas, but leftists think he's just as 902 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,880 capitalist because he was a restaurateur and some wine guy 903 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,960 who got in with who had rich, you know, had connections 904 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,360 through it that they don't, they don't, which I, I, I hate to 905 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:54,520 break. That's how a lot of big time 906 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,560 left to skip power. Fidel Castro's family owned 907 00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:58,760 sugar cane fields and everything. 908 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,880 I mean, it's just, it's actually, it's actually kind of 909 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:06,160 Lendy when you, when you think about it, but he is not, I don't 910 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,240 think he's that big of a threat. I do think he's the nomination 911 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,720 and right now he, he, I think he tried to win a standoff with 912 00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:17,320 Trump on this immigration thing without realizing that like 913 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,480 immigration, mass immigration being the biggest issue was like 914 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,120 81% at the exit polls. Whether you agree with that or 915 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,080 not, it's got to be at least over 50. 916 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,200 And I don't know, that's just what I say. 917 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:33,280 Little context to it all. I think what's miss like so the 918 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:38,640 the Democrat Party right now, they don't really in between 919 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:43,440 factions and I'll just put there's, there's all these don't 920 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,520 we can just go with the two factions that really matter. 921 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,920 That's like people under 40 and people over 40 and the people 922 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,400 under 40 are in terms of likely voters are probably a lot less. 923 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,680 But these people have a lot of I I mean, well, I don't know any 924 00:48:57,720 --> 00:48:59,760 for presidential election. They're very important and these 925 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:05,360 people fill out campaigns and stuff and well, you know, with 926 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,920 the with the Republican Party, I was listening to distributors, 927 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,200 Dave. He was talking about this like 928 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:14,280 we we talk or with right right wing, you know, like, you know, 929 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,520 I call James Lindsay slurs on Twitter. 930 00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:19,160 You. Know we, we, there's, there's 931 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:23,320 dialogue like if you go to the left, they don't really. 932 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,520 And by the way, there's, there's also there's debates and stuff. 933 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:32,000 The people, guys like us will debate these, you know, guys, 934 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:37,000 the, the establishment guys all the time, the Democrats, I don't 935 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,600 know why they don't do this right now. 936 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:44,280 And the, the, the boomer left, just they have this completely 937 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,840 different conception of politics. 938 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:52,440 And that's fine that that's not like out out of like a like, 939 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,440 however, they're not able. They're they're just them. 940 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,240 And the younger people are living in completely different 941 00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:02,720 worlds right now. And like, you know, if you're 942 00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:06,080 the young left people, you're really into Palestine and you 943 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,280 want some kind of like energy. And what's what's so like, 944 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:16,360 what's so weird about this is that Gavin is to like he has 945 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,200 Gavin has this, he was there man. 946 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,960 Like I like, I guarantee you that he when he was a little 947 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,400 kid, I mean, when he was 1819 working for Willie Brown and 948 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,840 stuff like that. I get I bet you that he knew the 949 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,440 guys in in the Weather Underground and Andrew Davis and 950 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,400 like Jones, like the the the kids, they don't understand. 951 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,640 No, this guy is your guy. However, he has done he's done 952 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:45,240 too much to like like we know. I don't even no one thinks of 953 00:50:45,240 --> 00:50:49,560 him him that way. He is he he's he became he 954 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:54,320 Larped so much that I don't know like like it's no one could even 955 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,000 buy that from now like like you people did the kids. 956 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,960 They don't know he he he he would have thrown 10 times more 957 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:07,760 Molotov cocktails than you at the Palestine protest that like 958 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,760 he really does get you. He is just like you. 959 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:16,800 He has that energy, but he he has just like just take it out 960 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:21,040 of himself aesthetically. I think if he was, I think on 961 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:25,360 paper, this is the guy who could, who could, you know, 962 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,520 broker this sort of like a philosophical or at least 963 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:33,080 aesthetic combination for the young Democrats and the older 964 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,480 Democrats. I don't, I'm not talking about 965 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,600 voting so much here as like people that are highly invested 966 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:42,560 in politics, you know, people who tweet too much the, the, the 967 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,160 wine ants and the, the radical left protesters and stuff. 968 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,840 He is like on paper he is absolutely the guy to bridge 969 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,120 that. But I don't, I don't know why 970 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,040 that's missing, because he he certainly could. 971 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,760 Yeah, he has, he's completely vapid. 972 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,560 I mean, it's, it's one of these things like you, you, you, he 973 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,160 just, he tries to find this like it's one of those like things 974 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,720 where it's like, I'm going to say something everybody likes 975 00:52:05,720 --> 00:52:08,000 and then nobody likes you, you know, and I can't say nobody 976 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,160 likes the guy. One, I mean, you know, he got he 977 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,720 got a pretty powerful position in government and I think it's 978 00:52:13,720 --> 00:52:16,480 because he buttered his bread on both sides. 979 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,360 I mean really, he really did. He kind of he does. 980 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,640 He just had to he was able to get in with the Pelosi's. 981 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,440 He was, like you said, probably able, probably knew people in 982 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,560 the Weather Underground, these big these, these big kind of 983 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,840 like radical groups and stuff. But at the end of the day, he 984 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:35,800 governs like a normie Democrat. But has that California like 985 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,280 that, that California we're looking towards not this year, 986 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,200 but but 50 years from now and our state, you know, and, and, 987 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:46,360 and you know, at the end of the day, he does owe the LGBTQ 988 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,600 community. He like owes them a lot of a lot 989 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,040 of patronage, right? Like he owes them a lot, which 990 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,840 that's kind of the issue with a lot of people when you think 991 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,000 about it, like a lot of the people who ran away from that 992 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,440 side. That's that's a big issue is 993 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,920 the, is the, is the basically, you know, forcing that stuff on 994 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:07,040 on everybody at all times. It despite claiming to be such a 995 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,280 small percentage that you should not worry about he owes them a 996 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,440 lot. So even if he does want to 997 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,200 regress to this kind of like, look, this fake bully that's in 998 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:17,760 the White House that this is what he was doing. 999 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,320 I'm trying this fake bully who calls me Newsome new scum. 1000 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,440 I've been hearing that since I was in 7th grade. 1001 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,480 Everyone calls me newscum. It doesn't mean anything. 1002 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,720 You know, this is which is like beta. 1003 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,280 Everybody's been calling you that since 7th grade. 1004 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,120 But he, he's like, I'm not, I'm tough basically like PC 1005 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,280 principal from South Park is what he's trying to be right 1006 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,320 now. Like just the, the, the like 1007 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,360 tough, tough guy. But I fight for the little guy 1008 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,000 because I'll fight, but I'll fight for him. 1009 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,920 And I just, I think that is just so played out. 1010 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,440 I don't think that works. I don't think anybody. 1011 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,920 I like I said, I live here and I don't hear anybody say anything 1012 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,800 about Gavin Newsom ever, unless they hate him. 1013 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,760 Well, that that line worked the first time around because they 1014 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,280 were able to cut Trump completely. 1015 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:05,360 And I'm not, I mean, I'm not absolving him and his his 1016 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,320 cabinet first time around. They really, they screwed up. 1017 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:09,680 They did. They acted weak. 1018 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,560 And so that line played well. It doesn't it doesn't play well 1019 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,120 now because he's using law affair effectively. 1020 00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:18,200 He's getting he's getting his way. 1021 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:23,320 He had, he had the military in California and all Newsom could 1022 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,040 do was complain about it. The, the, I think the key, the, 1023 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,440 the key thing not to mess with him is that because of his age, 1024 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,400 you know, yeah, I'm sure he did know. 1025 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,760 He did meet political people who were involved in like the 60s 1026 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,560 reckless. But The thing is, when he met 1027 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,200 them, they were like the University of Chicago, right? 1028 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:45,160 He he this guy's like he's a baby when the, when the Weather 1029 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,200 Underground is is getting arrested. 1030 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,240 So it's kind of the for for their perspective, the best of 1031 00:54:51,240 --> 00:54:54,080 both worlds, but the worst of both worlds from everyone else 1032 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:59,680 is where he's got that Atari Democrat typical bullshit like 1033 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,800 economic and and political background, but also this super 1034 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:09,680 Lib, sorry, super liberal, progressively liberal social 1035 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,320 ideas. And I, I think the, the course 1036 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,360 for that has, has long since run. 1037 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:22,080 People are fatigued, like even people who were who were happy 1038 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,120 to go along with the rainbow flag stuff until recently, the, 1039 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:30,160 the transsexual things. Just that was a bridge too far 1040 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:35,560 for, for normal for normies. And he is, whether correctly or 1041 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,640 not. I mean, I think obviously he, 1042 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,640 he, he deserves this. He is connected to that. 1043 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:46,400 Now then again, all this being said, if there's a a lot of 1044 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,640 economic problems, if there's a bad campaign by JD Vance or 1045 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,760 whoever, and you know, this guy could be president, it's that 1046 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:56,560 simple. If he can pitch something to, if 1047 00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,440 he can pitch people in convincing the slimy guys going 1048 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,440 to deliver the goods they'll go for, they'll put up with the 1049 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,920 rainbow flag stuff just like they put up with stuff from 1050 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,560 Trump that obviously there's a lot of stuff that Trump does 1051 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,760 that most, most voters don't like. 1052 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,160 But they'll put up with it for the stuff that they can get from 1053 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:17,720 him that they can't get from anybody else. 1054 00:56:17,720 --> 00:56:20,080 What can Newsom? What can Newsom deliver that 1055 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:20,880 nobody else can? He? 1056 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:22,160 Literally takes things away from you. 1057 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,200 He literally is like, we're taking this away from you. 1058 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,120 And that's good. Actually, it's, it's like your 1059 00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,200 gas powered car is ruining the world. 1060 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:32,600 You're you know, he, he cannot. I mean, you want to talk about a 1061 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,360 thing that made a lot of people go forward the, the vaccine 1062 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,520 stuff, the COVID stuff. He basically says he's like, 1063 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,840 look, we're putting together a report of everything we did 1064 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,320 wrong and it's coming out in six months, John. 1065 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,640 So I can't say it right now is basically what he says. 1066 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,800 And then he's like, but the vaccines work. 1067 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,520 That stuff's great. Like that, that and six month 1068 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,480 old kids. Yes, absolutely all the time. 1069 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:55,280 They should work all they they and and I'm like, hey, you're 1070 00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,840 not winning anybody new. Like that's that's what I meant. 1071 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,840 Like it's just I don't see anybody right now in the same 1072 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,000 way. I said I didn't think appointing 1073 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,920 Cash Patel to the cat, the thought of that was going to get 1074 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,120 the Epstein voter guy who swore off of any sort of electoral 1075 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:11,680 politics. I don't think that was going to 1076 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,720 that brought a sizable amount of people in. 1077 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,960 I don't think that what Newsom's rebranding thing for one, like 1078 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:18,920 people know who he is. Like it's like, man, I've been 1079 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:20,880 seeing you for the last 10 years. 1080 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,240 You know, like really for me, he's been the mayor of San 1081 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:24,640 Francisco since I've been in high school. 1082 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,440 So I've been seeing him for a long time. 1083 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:31,720 But it's just like I, I, I, I thought he bombed on there like 1084 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,680 on the Sean Ryan thing. And I don't think I think most 1085 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,360 Democrats are going to see that and go, what the hell are you 1086 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,160 doing talking to this lunatic Sean Ryan? 1087 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,760 You know, like I, I just did to me most of the time, like 1088 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,920 they're so tribal right now. They're not trying to do any 1089 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,040 sort of populist outreach. They still think a winning 1090 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,600 system is everybody's racist except us. 1091 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,560 Everybody's evil except us. Everybody's subhuman except us. 1092 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,480 So why don't you stop being subhuman and vote for us? 1093 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,160 That's like essentially what their their platform is. 1094 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,720 But they might just put a different person in there, you 1095 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,400 know, to say that. So I mean, I told you, you were 1096 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,920 going to die in 2021. If you do weren't, they're like, 1097 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,280 hey, you're going to die this winter. 1098 00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,440 That's our political platform. Is anybody? 1099 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,120 Does anybody still support the vaccine? 1100 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,560 I mean, I know obviously super lives and there are insane 1101 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,480 people who are still wearing the masks and stuff that like 1102 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,000 they're still on board with this. 1103 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:23,400 Like I, I occasionally see a person wearing, wearing a mask 1104 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,680 in public and it's, it's, it's like, it's like seeing somebody 1105 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,760 riding one of those penny farting bicycles. 1106 00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,560 Like, wow, you're still, you're still on that, huh? 1107 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,760 Members only jacket, Yeah. Yeah, you can always go into 1108 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,800 that one part, the long COVID part of Twitter and yeah, they. 1109 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,680 Go hard. Yeah, they're out there. 1110 00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,640 I do think that, you know, politically that the key point 1111 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,320 that I think Merrick, you brought up in the thing you said 1112 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:54,120 before, the biggest gap he's got right now, like the he needs to 1113 00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:58,960 most likely worry about is black people in terms of things that 1114 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:03,480 he needs to change. Not that he hates black people, 1115 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,760 whatever, but like, you know, patronage wise, currently Black 1116 00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:12,800 people don't, don't really don't are, are there's certainly they 1117 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:17,560 have a lot less power in California politics than they do 1118 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:21,600 in nationwide Democrat primary politics. 1119 00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:26,440 And people don't know like the, the, the percentage of black 1120 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:31,320 people in California cities has been like cratering for the past 1121 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:35,040 like 10 years or whatever. And so they're just not that 1122 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,120 they don't have that clout. And you know, it's possible. 1123 00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:46,040 Well, Clyburn's a great example. You know, Clyburn's base is, is 1124 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,160 like The Who, you know, they, they got the South Carolina 1125 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,160 primary and everything. He leads the black, the Black 1126 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,960 Caucus. You know, Clyburn's base is, you 1127 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:56,800 know, you wouldn't say conservative, but they're these 1128 00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:02,000 boomer black people who they're not, they're not super pro LGBT 1129 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,680 And they're, they're just kind of very much the they're, 1130 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,280 they're super Democrats. They're, but they're very much. 1131 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,920 Like the opposite of of a California what what wins in 1132 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:18,560 California Democrat politics. So and he and he can he can make 1133 01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,840 shifts, but he needs to he needs to get you know, he needs to 1134 01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,240 start shucking and jiving. He's got to start. 1135 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:29,560 He's got to start race hustling more, but he does not need to in 1136 01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,520 in California politics but did. You see when he tried to play 1137 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:36,360 basketball. No, Yeah, it's a really good 1138 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:40,360 clip, man. I implore every every listener 1139 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,440 to look it up of there were Chinese kids visiting San 1140 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:44,680 Francisco. It was kind of the whole thing. 1141 01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,640 Remember when when I think Trump got mad at him for for cleaning 1142 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,720 up the city finally for for China to come through. 1143 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:53,720 I guess that was what they to clean up San Francisco or all 1144 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,720 the people were making fun of that. 1145 01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,680 But there was this Chinese kid and he tried to do one of those 1146 01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,080 playful cross up. He the kid took a charge. 1147 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,320 He flopped on top of the kid. The kid fell over. 1148 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:03,680 This is like a nine year old kid. 1149 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,080 And I thought the kid was in legal defensive position outside 1150 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,520 the restricted area. Personally, I would have, I 1151 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,480 would have called the offensive foul on Newsome. 1152 01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,960 I'm sure the Secaucus, New York people would, would, would, 1153 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,080 would agree with me there. But it was just, it was, it was 1154 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:19,600 funny. It's just like he's kind of a 1155 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:24,920 joke, you know, like, and again, Joe Biden through Fortification 1156 01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:28,640 1, he was brain dead. So you can't count anybody out. 1157 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,800 But it again, it was through election fortification and 1158 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:33,640 hopefully, hopefully that's over. 1159 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:35,720 But I'll to be honest, I don't know. 1160 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:41,240 I don't know if that's over SO. You know, Kamala is the is she 1161 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,640 the first? She's definitely the first 1162 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:48,640 recent California Democrat to to run for president. 1163 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,400 I there's a reason that hasn't happened in the past and Bog 1164 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:56,480 beef outlined it. The, the, the structural, I 1165 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,680 guess the, the political structure of the Democrat party, 1166 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:03,400 the way the primaries work, the American black Democrat voters 1167 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,360 are the most important in the in the primary, as Bernard Sanders 1168 01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,200 found out. And actually Bernard Sanders 1169 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,440 found that out twice and that once against Biden and once 1170 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,880 against Clinton. But The thing is because of 1171 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:21,920 demographic change. Well, Bobby voices like Los 1172 01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:26,440 Angeles has already gone from like Los interest had a large 1173 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:30,400 black population when we were young and now it's it's the 1174 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,080 majority they all at this point. They all left, yeah. 1175 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:37,840 Like we were look at this the other day, Chicago is now 30% 1176 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:41,760 Hispanic, 30% black. And actually suspense have edged 1177 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:45,640 them out a little bit. And this is, this is a problem 1178 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:49,520 when you have a party that's has a lot of ethnic blocks within 1179 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,400 it. And these changes they're, this 1180 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:55,920 is one of the reasons why you saw movement towards Trump from 1181 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,200 people who hadn't previously voted for him. 1182 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,360 So that's, that's the big issue for Newsom. 1183 01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,720 However, I guess a double edged sword. 1184 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:04,600 You got a couple election cycles. 1185 01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,520 If the if the demographics continue on the way they are, 1186 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,040 they won't be a well, black Democrats won't be in charge of 1187 01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,400 the party anymore. Actually, maybe that's maybe 1188 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:14,560 that's already true. I have. 1189 01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:18,480 I just don't believe that because of South Carolina being 1190 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,080 first in the primaries. But you know, because we, we 1191 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,520 love, we love Jim Clyburn on the good old boy show. 1192 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,960 He's at 80. He's 84 years old. 1193 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,160 That man's not going to be around forever. 1194 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:32,560 Who they got in the bullpen so that that's the way you can edge 1195 01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:36,000 him. But like, Kamala was a, I guess 1196 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,640 the bellwether about this. She was not an impressive 1197 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:43,680 politician by any means, but she checked off some boxes and 1198 01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,200 Clyburn basically got her her post. 1199 01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,840 I does anybody think that's going to it's going to change 1200 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:53,680 that much in four years? I don't. 1201 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,520 I think that you're going to need their seal of approval. 1202 01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,920 And I have a hard time seeing Newsom getting that. 1203 01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:02,320 But you know that that's his problem, not ours. 1204 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,800 Yeah, true. Mom Donnie was another good 1205 01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:10,120 example of black people reason why Mom Donnie won. 1206 01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,680 I mean, you know, it's just one reason among many, but it's 1207 01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,320 basically that black people don't have the same clout they 1208 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,000 have in New York City Democrat politics that they used to. 1209 01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,160 There's just way way way less than them. 1210 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,160 Shall we move on to our the meat of the discussion today? 1211 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,480 We've it's kind of a tradition whenever you guys come on the 1212 01:04:54,480 --> 01:05:00,360 show, we take 4:00-ish subjects. I think we have three people and 1213 01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:04,280 a a head to head that I proposed today for we rate them alpha 1214 01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,080 beta. Of course, you know, it's all 1215 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,800 it's all completely objective. There's no subjectivity. 1216 01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,720 We are running this through AI and just reading the results. 1217 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,400 Of course, it's not our personal opinions. 1218 01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:20,400 The there was no rules for this one with who we were going with. 1219 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:25,040 Now I want to start with there's two guys that I believe you guys 1220 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,000 proposed that. I do wish I do wish Sai was here 1221 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,960 for this one, but I'll do my best. 1222 01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:34,480 I'll do my best to channel him through a like a side medium 1223 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:36,960 like he normally like he normally would. 1224 01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,640 But let's start with with Doctor Atkins. 1225 01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,720 I love this one. Yeah, the father of the Atkins 1226 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,120 diet. For anybody who doesn't know if 1227 01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,280 you guys were around, if you guys are like millennials or 1228 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:53,720 genet or like older, that was a one of the first diet crazes I 1229 01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,440 ever witnessed was the Atkins diet. 1230 01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,960 Now, I intended that to be a head to head between the two, 1231 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,320 the two people while listening, but I I don't want to. 1232 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,640 I don't want to get your listeners in the upper against 1233 01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:05,040 you. No, no. 1234 01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:06,560 No, no, no. I think that works even better. 1235 01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,320 That's great. Actually, I I think that's good. 1236 01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:09,800 We have a couple head to heads. I love it. 1237 01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:14,040 So yes. OK, so either way, you still 1238 01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,760 have to kind of, you know, we're still going to go about it the 1239 01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:17,920 same way, but it is a head to head. 1240 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,080 I like this a lot. So Robert Atkins, the Atkins 1241 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:25,560 diet now it is it's kind of, I think it's been refined a little 1242 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,920 bit nowadays. I think like keto is kind of 1243 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,160 like a refining. I'm not a diet expert despite 1244 01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,160 being on a show where you would think I would be. 1245 01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,280 I'm most certainly not feeling like one right now. 1246 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:42,040 But the Robert Atkins basically was like more or less was like a 1247 01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,320 eat a shit ton of meat. Doesn't matter if it's sopping 1248 01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,520 in grease, doesn't matter anything. 1249 01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,720 No carbs, do not touch the carbs. 1250 01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:55,440 And if you're, you know, playing football or something, or you're 1251 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,440 a young guy, like even in your like 20s or something, and 1252 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,040 you're like working out everyday, you're working, you 1253 01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:04,000 know, construction or something, you're, you're like moving shit 1254 01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,840 around all day. When you follow the Atkins diet, 1255 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,000 like you can get jacked. I mean, you can get big. 1256 01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:10,960 You could just be bulking. You could just, and if you're 1257 01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:12,560 lifting weights and stuff, you can get big. 1258 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:15,360 Doctor Atkins. I'm just looking at the way he 1259 01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,240 died. He died. 1260 01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:22,560 He, he, I will say he died like, like the guy on the Segway, 1261 01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,880 Remember the guy who invented the Segway, fell off the Segway 1262 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:26,880 and died. Like, I didn't know that. 1263 01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:32,120 I maybe that's urban legend, but I think enter of Segway death. 1264 01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:34,640 But yeah, he you know. Massive heart attack, right? 1265 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,480 This is how Atkins died. But yeah, the, oh, the owner of 1266 01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:40,800 Segway, excuse me, not the inventor. 1267 01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:42,960 He died in a Segway related accident. 1268 01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:46,040 So that's pretty pretty. I think it's kind of based, 1269 01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:49,000 honestly, when you think about it, it's like, hey, I I, I love 1270 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:50,600 this so much that it's what killed me. 1271 01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:52,880 It's like almost Siegfried and Roy, you know, it's like this 1272 01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:57,120 kind of like, not that, not that I think those guys are based or 1273 01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,320 anything, but just, it's when you get killed by the thing you 1274 01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:03,440 invented, it's not a good idea, but it's alpha in my opinion. 1275 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:07,760 I think Atkins is kind of, yeah. It was a massive heart attack, 1276 01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,720 probably diet related. I would say. 1277 01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:14,640 I, I just, I just, I, I am not an expert in this, but when you 1278 01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:20,040 die at 72 and it's a massive heart attack, like he, I'm 1279 01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:23,279 pretty sure the Atkins diet just stuff in your face and he looks 1280 01:08:23,279 --> 01:08:24,840 like a guy. He, he looks like a guy who 1281 01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,960 could just throw him down at the heart attack grill in Arizona or 1282 01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:29,640 something. He, he looks like that type of 1283 01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,000 guy. His coronary arteries were 30 to 1284 01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:36,120 40% blocked his cardiology. Yeah. 1285 01:08:36,279 --> 01:08:36,680 And. And. 1286 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:38,560 And so he. This was in 2001. 1287 01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,760 He died in 2003. I bet you we got to 50. 1288 01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,520 I bet you we got to 50. And. 1289 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,880 And because why stop there? He's like, guys, I can't stop. 1290 01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,040 The books must sell. My dad, like you. 1291 01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,800 You do figure he had a big boat or something like a bit like 1292 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,359 you. You think he was partying super 1293 01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:54,279 hard. I bet he did. 1294 01:08:55,279 --> 01:08:58,680 That it, it's so, so that's so base. 1295 01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:04,800 I always think of so two things. So #1 when, and we may have 1296 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:11,720 talked about this last time, but when, when Jordan Peterson went 1297 01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:16,080 on the animal diet and he didn't even, he didn't just go Atkins, 1298 01:09:16,279 --> 01:09:22,479 he all he literally ate was bowls of beef with, with, like, 1299 01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:26,160 with a, with like a, with like a, like, you know, oil soup 1300 01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:27,800 basically. That's it. 1301 01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:29,920 Nothing. And like, you know, on Atkins, 1302 01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:33,240 well, even a little, you can have a, you know, a thing of 1303 01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,600 lettuce or a little bit like, no, just beef. 1304 01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:40,160 And when he did it, you could tell that he was a disaster. 1305 01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:43,359 And he looked like $1,000,000. He looked amazing. 1306 01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,200 Because I, I always relate that because when I, when I was in 1307 01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:49,640 high school, I was playing every sport and I was trying to just 1308 01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,160 get to that next level. And I went on the Atkins diet 1309 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:58,080 and, and it was brutal, man. Like it was, it's way harder 1310 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:01,520 than people realize. Like like you, you can't even 1311 01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,640 you can like you think, oh, can you eat all meat or whatever? 1312 01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,880 It's like, no, you can't. You can't even really use BBQ 1313 01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:08,280 sauce. Like you have to use like this 1314 01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:12,720 bullshit BBQ sauce and stuff. It, it, it was, it's so brutal. 1315 01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:18,560 Like you have to look for like to, to stay in ketosis 24/7. 1316 01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:22,720 But I and when I did it, I looked amazing. 1317 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:28,560 I had this, I had all this energy, but it was like this. 1318 01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:30,920 I was like, I was like an animal. 1319 01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:36,120 I was like aggravated and angry and stank and I'm shitting my 1320 01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:40,280 brains out all day. Like, like, you know, every 15 1321 01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:43,040 minutes I'm going and doing things in the bathroom that were 1322 01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:46,440 just, I was like, Oh my God, that was awful. 1323 01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:50,080 I like, like it would it must like I felt like this is what 1324 01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,680 like like Keith Richards goes through like in the like in the 1325 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:58,760 morning basically. And it just turns you into into 1326 01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:03,040 like a like a like a walk. You just feel like a walking 1327 01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,640 hard on looking for a hole like you. 1328 01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,840 You just become pure energy. It's not really a good thing. 1329 01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:09,720 I was. Just saying, I don't think, I 1330 01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:11,800 don't think you're necessarily, I think a lot of our listeners 1331 01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,000 might, you might be sold, you might be selling this to them. 1332 01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:19,440 Yeah, if you're just trying to, you know, drop a drop a dress 1333 01:11:19,440 --> 01:11:24,360 size or, you know, get them get into those 28 slacks for for the 1334 01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:26,760 summer or whatever. Yeah, It's not what you want to 1335 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:30,720 do. It's it's, I don't know. 1336 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,720 You've heard the spin now from from this guy. 1337 01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:37,680 Let me let me just say when he died, he was like 72. 1338 01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:42,520 That was the the life expectancy for for him was like 7475. 1339 01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,240 So he clocked out a couple years early. 1340 01:11:45,480 --> 01:11:50,560 You know, you having a a red meat heavy diet, you know you're 1341 01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:52,240 you're going to block some arteries. 1342 01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,680 It's good you can't make an omelet without breaking some 1343 01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:58,400 eggs. It's a it's a quite an omelet 1344 01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,040 you're making. Oh yeah, you're. 1345 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:05,320 Sweating all day and like people don't realize like a, you know, 1346 01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:11,480 a gigantic porterhouse steak has like like 250 calories Max. 1347 01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,640 It's like, it's like the like half, it's like 1 bite of a 1348 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,000 Snickers bar. So you're just shoveling your 1349 01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:23,600 face with these like, you know, giant animal style, you know, 1350 01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:28,480 quadruple bacon zilla burgers and stuff and you're never full 1351 01:12:28,480 --> 01:12:31,400 because it's no calories at all. Like if you don't, if you really 1352 01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:34,800 stick to it and eat no carbs, carbs are what's easy to 1353 01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,000 consume. Like, but if you, if you 1354 01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:40,120 actually try to hit like you'll never get, you certainly won't 1355 01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,080 gain a pound. If you stick to it, you there 1356 01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,320 wouldn't be enough time and you wouldn't have enough energy to 1357 01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:47,760 shovel that many calories, like 2500 calories down your gullet. 1358 01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:51,920 So 'cause I'm an insane person, about 10 years ago I I didn't go 1359 01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,720 on the Atkins diet per SE, 'cause I didn't read the book or 1360 01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:55,880 anything. But you cut. 1361 01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:57,000 Carbs. You cut carbs. 1362 01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:03,000 Yeah, I went on a 2 lbs a week carb calorie deficit and I to do 1363 01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:06,320 that, you basically have to eat nothing but but like, but meat 1364 01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:13,120 and the the calorie deficit made me feel not great, even though I 1365 01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:16,240 was lifting at the same time to try to not lose muscle mass. the 1366 01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,520 IT didn't really work. It wasn't a good idea. 1367 01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,440 However, eating nothing but meat was amazing. 1368 01:13:22,480 --> 01:13:27,520 I every every day I think about how great it would be to just to 1369 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,680 go back to eating nothing but meat. 1370 01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:33,080 It's awesome. Now, I guess if you're if you're 1371 01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,600 a pickier eater, it might, it might be a problem. 1372 01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:40,480 I was throwing down at one point like Blanche chicken, chicken 1373 01:13:40,480 --> 01:13:43,440 breast, just straight up boiling a chicken breast and eating it. 1374 01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,840 It's good times. I think that everybody should go 1375 01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,440 out the way that they doing the thing they love. 1376 01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:55,600 And that's what, you know, Mr. Mr. Doctor Atkins, Professor MD. 1377 01:13:56,000 --> 01:14:00,760 He went, he went out on top and and, and here's another benefit 1378 01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,720 of this getting really old is terrible. 1379 01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:09,800 Yeah, no, I, I, I do agree. And and I just real fast, like 1380 01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:13,800 you said, going out especially I think dying by your own creation 1381 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:15,640 in a sense, or at least like what made you rich? 1382 01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:17,920 I do think it's alpha. And like, I'm just, I'm still 1383 01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:19,960 fixated on the Segway guy just for a second. 1384 01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,480 But James William and his nickname is Jimmy, like Jimi 1385 01:14:23,480 --> 01:14:30,000 Hendrix, Jimi Hazelden, he was so he was an English 1386 01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,040 entrepreneur. He was a former coal miner. 1387 01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:35,360 He became wealthy by manufacturing the Hesco Bastion 1388 01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:39,080 barrier system. In 2009, he bought Segway Inc. 1389 01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:43,720 In 2010, he died from injuries sustained from falling off a 1390 01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,640 Cliff while riding a Segway. It's like Thelma and Louise. 1391 01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:51,960 That's, that's amazing, yeah. I I mean, you think the 1392 01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,120 company's like fuck the stock's going to tank just because he 1393 01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,840 died on one too like. Wow, Yeah, He didn't even make 1394 01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,920 it a year owning the company before he went off a Cliff with 1395 01:14:59,920 --> 01:15:01,160 the with the Segway. Yeah. 1396 01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,640 I, I mean amazing. So at least Doctor Atkins got 1397 01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:09,080 many years out of his. Oh man, I want to change mine 1398 01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:11,800 now. Well, go ahead, don't you? 1399 01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:13,720 We haven't read it yet, so. Yeah. 1400 01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:15,840 Well, Buck, what? Yeah, OK. 1401 01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,840 Yeah, please. OK, we got surprise, surprise 1402 01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,880 guest guest off later. I mean, don't we have to, don't 1403 01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:24,880 we have to do the second one of the head to head now and that 1404 01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,440 and that how that works like we're deciding if Atkins is 1405 01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,200 who's the most out the second. One, yeah, the second I I still 1406 01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:32,400 would like to talk about your other. 1407 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:33,360 One. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. 1408 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:34,200 OK, got you. Got you. 1409 01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:36,600 All right. I had I had a Eureka moment. 1410 01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:43,240 OK, so I, I, I am going to so we had, we had Ray Ray Pete. 1411 01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:46,080 This is Doctor Atkins versus Doctor Ray Pete. 1412 01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,240 Now Ray Pete. Now I tell you, the one time I 1413 01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:52,640 ever fucking counter signaled that guy on this show IA lot of 1414 01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,200 times I'll post our episodes. I don't know if you guys are 1415 01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:55,600 like this too. I'll post our episodes right 1416 01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,440 before bed. You know, I'll just, I'll put 1417 01:15:57,440 --> 01:15:58,520 them up. I won't promote them or 1418 01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,040 anything. I wake up in the morning and 1419 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:03,520 it's people like this fucking asshole talking about Ray Pete. 1420 01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:07,000 And I was like, whoa, like, like, I was like, it was, it's 1421 01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,720 wild. I won't say it is kind of funny 1422 01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:13,840 that Ray Pete is a communist. I wasn't aware of that. 1423 01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,160 Oh, did Fredo not tell you? No, I'm just kidding. 1424 01:16:16,440 --> 01:16:19,760 But no, I this is off the Reddit. 1425 01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:23,600 I know it's always been a thing. He so this is from R slash Ray 1426 01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:25,200 Pete. So do with this what you will. 1427 01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,520 I'm sure people think that it's not true. 1428 01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:29,760 You know, he's based, he's a Roman soldier. 1429 01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:34,000 I have no idea. But he, this is the, the, the 1430 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:37,280 post on Reddit is the Ray Pete Russian slash communist 1431 01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,600 conspiracy. This guy says. 1432 01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,800 I think Ray's ideas about communist Russia are some of the 1433 01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,960 hardest to grapple with. He seems to think Stalin was 1434 01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:49,760 generally good and those who came after undermined him. 1435 01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,640 I think he agrees with Marx's ideas that society should 1436 01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,680 provide for people's needs to develop optimally as a 1437 01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:57,920 biological Organism, blah, blah, blah, right? 1438 01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:01,080 So all that, he's all that stuff again, it's about the food. 1439 01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:02,560 So it doesn't matter, right? It doesn't matter. 1440 01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:04,560 Ray Pete, you don't go to raypete.com to learn about 1441 01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:06,120 communism. I would think I would. 1442 01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:08,960 I would guess you don't. Maybe you do. 1443 01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:12,880 I don't know. He's he his he is like I still 1444 01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,360 don't understand what his diet is because anytime I critique 1445 01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,400 it, it's I got the diet wrong apparently. 1446 01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:21,240 So apparently you can eat a shit ton of ice cream if there's no 1447 01:17:21,440 --> 01:17:24,800 if there's no gum in it or anything like like the gums I 1448 01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:26,560 think are the bad, which I agree those are bad. 1449 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,760 I don't know if eating like massive amounts of Haagen Dazs 1450 01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:34,160 overtime is really good for you. Obviously a bunch of meat. 1451 01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:35,560 He doesn't. They don't really like 1452 01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:39,080 cruciferous vegetables like the broccolis, the stuff like this. 1453 01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:45,120 And I do think it is an elevated gamer diet, which is that alpha? 1454 01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:48,280 I tend to say no, but you guys might say yes. 1455 01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:54,640 Did you see the Big Pete news or the like two hours ago? 1456 01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:57,400 No, no Trump. Trump called the CEO of 1457 01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:00,520 Coca-Cola and demanded all Coke now be. 1458 01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:04,640 They said they're going to do it, Coke said they're going to 1459 01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,600 put cane sugar in their Coca-Cola. 1460 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:08,560 They told Trump that. They're going to get out of the 1461 01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:10,840 they're going to get out of the I mean, they're getting out of 1462 01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:12,320 corn syrup. They're getting out of that 1463 01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,520 stuff or just adding. I mean, I'm, I'm interested, I 1464 01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,600 mean. That's what Trump just said that 1465 01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:18,760 he talked to them and they promised they were going to put 1466 01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:20,920 put cane sugar in there. It's going to be great. 1467 01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:22,600 That's that's all we know about it now. 1468 01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,680 But I think that is Petey correct. 1469 01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:28,760 Oh, it is the Pete thing. I mean, they, they are sugar. 1470 01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:32,680 They sugar Max like they, I've known some people like I to me, 1471 01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,800 I, I don't know, I, I am like I talk about it with Sai. 1472 01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,960 I kind of, I kind of laugh like if you were eating nothing but 1473 01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:42,320 like gamer snacks and I think we all know what I'm talking pizza 1474 01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,800 rolls, like sedentary diet or something. 1475 01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:47,840 And you got into Ray Pete, which then got you into Mishima or 1476 01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,600 something and working out and all that stuff. 1477 01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,200 That's good. That's a good thing. 1478 01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,560 I would expand on it. And I don't think green 1479 01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:58,240 vegetables are the devil, right? And I know some people what from 1480 01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:01,040 what I know about Ray Ray Pete is that he stayed away from a 1481 01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:04,000 lot of leafy greens. Think they called like oxalates 1482 01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:05,920 in there that disturb your stomach or something. 1483 01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,720 And to be fair, some uncooked greens do not agree with me when 1484 01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:12,040 they're uncooked sometimes, like for broccoli, I I, I raw 1485 01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:15,000 broccoli doesn't sit right with me. 1486 01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:16,000 Cook broccoli. I can either. 1487 01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:19,240 I can eat a forest of it. But so I think there might be 1488 01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:20,880 something to that. But he would get to the point, I 1489 01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,480 guess, where he would boils And I already I can already hear the 1490 01:19:23,480 --> 01:19:25,280 backlash of how I got this wrong. 1491 01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:28,920 Sorry guys, but there's, there's like he would boil a cup of 1492 01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,880 spinach and then drink the spinach water and throw out the 1493 01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:33,920 leaves. And I'm just like, I still think 1494 01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:38,040 dietary neuroses after a while like that stuff becomes this 1495 01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:41,000 cottage industry. And yes, you should, you should 1496 01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,280 that we should right now, the way food is constructed in 1497 01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:45,720 America, you, if you, if you give a shit, you have to read 1498 01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:47,640 everything right? You have to look at everything. 1499 01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:49,400 It's, it's a kind of arduous task. 1500 01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:52,600 It kind of limits social interactions, you know, in terms 1501 01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,520 of going out with your friends or something because you're 1502 01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:57,520 going to eat stuff coated in canola oil. 1503 01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:01,040 But I still think the neuroses could give you a Atkins type 1504 01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:02,800 death. Like stop, don't freak out about 1505 01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:04,120 everything that you eat and stuff. 1506 01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:06,440 And a lot of people I know that get into the Ray Pete thing, 1507 01:20:06,440 --> 01:20:08,360 they get really neurotic about what they eat. 1508 01:20:09,440 --> 01:20:13,160 And I will say in terms of alpha, I got to say Atkins is 1509 01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:16,480 more alpha. Pete probably has I, I think 1510 01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:18,160 maybe a little bit better diet, but I don't know. 1511 01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:19,640 I don't know if that's what we're talking about here. 1512 01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,480 By the way, if if anyone listens to good old boys, then I mean. 1513 01:20:23,480 --> 01:20:26,960 So I get in trouble all the time for glazing Stalin too much. 1514 01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,560 So I mean, that's we, we, we, we share that in common. 1515 01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:35,200 People are worried, I mean. You see that Stalin was good. 1516 01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:42,800 There's some problematic aspects I would if I I mean if I. 1517 01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,560 Stalin the painter you like, like Hitler's art, you know, 1518 01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,240 say, does you mean? There are. 1519 01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:54,400 Well, I would just say that Stalin didn't take over UNICEF, 1520 01:20:55,480 --> 01:20:59,160 he took over the Soviet Union. Stalin drained the swamp. 1521 01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,120 If Stalin killed, starved. Of the swamp, yeah. 1522 01:21:04,440 --> 01:21:08,200 If Stalin killed all the Trotskies, our lives would be a 1523 01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:13,080 lot easier. They they sort of came to here 1524 01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,280 and started running the United States. 1525 01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:24,200 I, I, I, I would just Stalin is this. 1526 01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,640 Stalin was a thug. He was a thug. 1527 01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:31,800 And he, he, well, it's, it's too much to get into, but that's. 1528 01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,120 Fine. I just say you, I've always you 1529 01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:37,200 liked you liked, you liked his, you liked what he got. 1530 01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,000 Like, I don't know, not that I don't even want to say that, 1531 01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,640 but. I'm pretty I'm pretty pro 1532 01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:44,840 dictator in general. I'm going to give you some 1533 01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,760 bogged beef lore. This and this is probably, I 1534 01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:51,360 don't know, 15 years ago, maybe. No, probably before then. 1535 01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:56,200 Well, he was, he was dating a young lady and she out of the 1536 01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:59,720 blue, having never spoken with him about politics whatsoever, 1537 01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:03,080 never heard any of his ideas, just said, you know, I think you 1538 01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,040 would, you would like Joseph Stalin. 1539 01:22:05,440 --> 01:22:07,400 That happened, didn't it? Yes, you. 1540 01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,000 Remember that. No, no, no, she said that to 1541 01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,600 him. Just she she code, she code. 1542 01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,600 Read it like, you know, I think that Stalin would be the kind of 1543 01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:17,480 guy that, you know, politically that you would like. 1544 01:22:17,480 --> 01:22:19,160 And he had never talked to her about politics. 1545 01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:22,800 So yeah, I mean that's. But I don't know where that 1546 01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:24,320 happened. There was another point. 1547 01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:28,440 So I'm where I'm at this job and this this job is using these 1548 01:22:28,440 --> 01:22:32,520 Russians for cheap labor. And there's these, there's this 1549 01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,200 Russian girl there. She's beautiful. 1550 01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,160 And there's, and this has nothing to do with her being a 1551 01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:39,600 beautiful woman. I've always wanted to ask a 1552 01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:41,680 Russian this because it's like, there's this thing in the back 1553 01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:44,480 of my mind and I've got to ask a real Russian this. 1554 01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:47,720 I've just got to. And so I walk up to her and I 1555 01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:51,560 was like, I tried to, to doll it as much as I could, but I was 1556 01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:53,000 like, what do you think of Joseph Stahl? 1557 01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:58,080 And her answer was like, it was so good. 1558 01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:01,800 That was like, it just made, it just made my, my whole like, 1559 01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:06,160 like I said, I dictators, they it's a complicated story, but 1560 01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:13,240 dictators are, are they're the big if you're a dictator, I post 1561 01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:14,680 the thing of the day. That was like, these are the 1562 01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,160 people that I follow. And it was, it said it was 1563 01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:22,720 someone's Wikipedia heading and it said political career 1949 1564 01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:27,080 through 2010. That's what I'm into is if you 1565 01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,800 sort of look at politics as a survival thing, if someone is 1566 01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:34,600 able to survive on top of, of a, of a stage for like 5050, sixty 1567 01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:36,600 years or whatever, I'm into that. 1568 01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:40,760 And but anyway, so I asked her that and I'm sitting there and 1569 01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:42,720 I'm thinking I'm like, oh God, but she's going to say, you 1570 01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:45,360 know, she's going to say that he killed my grandfather. 1571 01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,520 And he and she looked at me seriously heart. 1572 01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,880 And she says he did what had to be done. 1573 01:23:57,080 --> 01:24:00,200 Wow. I couldn't believe it. 1574 01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,160 I couldn't believe it. It was amazing. 1575 01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:07,040 But he was a redneck and a thug and he gets his job running that 1576 01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:13,320 this state that is like the most nerd like state of all time, 1577 01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:17,160 like the like the most like this utopian nerd experiment of free 1578 01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:19,480 love. And he bullies all the he 1579 01:24:19,480 --> 01:24:23,520 bullies all these nerds as this redneck thug. 1580 01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:28,040 I mean, he was robbing Banksy or two before and like walking into 1581 01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,920 that status hierarchy, destroying everybody, killing 1582 01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:35,440 all your competition, sewing up power in a massive nation state 1583 01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:38,320 and holding on to it forever, bullying United States. 1584 01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,680 If you take him as look at him as an individual political 1585 01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:45,480 actor, he's super effective. Like it's, it's impossibly more 1586 01:24:45,480 --> 01:24:48,840 effective. And so that's the that's the 1587 01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:51,520 problem. Like, so that doesn't mean he's 1588 01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:54,920 a good person like good people that they don't, they don't, 1589 01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,640 they don't get in this line of work. 1590 01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,080 I didn't believe you when you said you didn't have principles. 1591 01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:04,800 Now I do. I didn't believe. 1592 01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:06,840 I was like, ah, shut up. Yeah, you do. 1593 01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:10,400 No, no, seriously. That's wow. 1594 01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:11,920 Yeah. I didn't know we were going when 1595 01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,240 I thought Gray Pete and I thought it was Gray Pete, which 1596 01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:18,040 is that we actually got the most accurate alpha beta rating on 1597 01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:21,280 Stalin, apparently. So that's that's amazing. 1598 01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:23,280 What was yours, Bog? I don't even have yours written 1599 01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:24,960 down. What was your your submission 1600 01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:26,280 to? This Oh, it's not important. 1601 01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:27,600 I've got one that's much, much better. 1602 01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:29,480 OK, well, either way, I don't, I don't think I know it. 1603 01:25:29,480 --> 01:25:31,600 So yeah, what? Go ahead. 1604 01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,160 Floor is yours. Kevin Federline. 1605 01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,200 Oh, Alpha, without question. Are you kidding? 1606 01:25:37,440 --> 01:25:40,720 Are you kidding me? In a in an era where child 1607 01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:43,920 support is being deployed on every man ever? 1608 01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:45,520 I mean, yeah, I mean Bog. You've probably worked some 1609 01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,640 similar jobs to me. You've heard the Child Support 1610 01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:51,800 Blues, you know what I mean? Like, like, just the like, like, 1611 01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:57,240 you know, my, my, I've, I'm telling you right now and I, I 1612 01:25:57,240 --> 01:26:00,640 hope that this didn't become a pending case, but there was one 1613 01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:04,320 guy offering around and I'm not going to say much about him, but 1614 01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:08,480 the word, the sentences I use for it will give you an accurate 1615 01:26:08,480 --> 01:26:10,880 picture of what this guy was. He was walking around and he was 1616 01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:12,840 asking random tough looking women. 1617 01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,960 He said 20. He said $10,000 to beat the shit 1618 01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:18,600 out of my baby Mama 25,000 if you kill her. 1619 01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:21,360 And, and he was just saying like anybody down. 1620 01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:26,360 And I was like, I'm hearing you. I thought all of your and 1621 01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:28,480 everybody teaches you not to say that around me. 1622 01:26:28,480 --> 01:26:30,720 You know what I mean? Like probably like you, you 1623 01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,480 know, like I'm like Fred Willard in a rap video at this point. 1624 01:26:33,480 --> 01:26:36,240 Like don't say that around me. Like, you know, bad boys for 1625 01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:37,760 life get thrown in a garbage can. 1626 01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:39,720 Like he probably shouldn't have. I should have stayed there. 1627 01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:43,080 But we've heard all this stuff. Kevin Federline because didn't 1628 01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,800 he start 5 gum or something with the with the money? 1629 01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:47,240 Oh my. God. 1630 01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:52,480 It was some let me see Kevin Federline gum. 1631 01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:58,800 He he I thought he was a big part of yes, stride gum. 1632 01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:04,360 Excuse me, stride gum. So we're he he became like I 1633 01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:07,480 think an investor, if I have this right, an investor in five 1634 01:27:07,480 --> 01:27:10,440 gum in 2006. I'm you have to think that's 1635 01:27:10,440 --> 01:27:12,760 with the Britney money. Oh, for sure. 1636 01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,000 Fried gum, Yeah. So I health already. 1637 01:27:15,440 --> 01:27:17,360 Already to get some bag. I I totally agree. 1638 01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:20,200 I, I my, you know, my, I don't remember how old, you know why 1639 01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:21,800 in my early 20s or something like that. 1640 01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:26,680 I was like just laying at night dreaming of being in a situation 1641 01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:29,760 like Kevin Federline. So with, with Federline. 1642 01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:35,520 So he's one of these guys like on paper, like if you look at 1643 01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:38,480 him on paper. So dance choreographer. 1644 01:27:38,480 --> 01:27:40,400 That's one of the gayest jobs in the world. 1645 01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:43,960 It, it, it is. Now, of course, in reality, it's 1646 01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:48,200 one of these jobs that are like, OK, let's get you, you know, hot 1647 01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:49,880 and sweaty with a lot of young women and stuff. 1648 01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:52,440 However, I mean, you know, in real life, a lot of gay guys 1649 01:27:52,440 --> 01:27:55,920 have that job. You, you, you know, your dance 1650 01:27:55,920 --> 01:28:01,880 choreographer, you are Mr. Mom, you he's got, you know, he, he's 1651 01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:05,960 the one that that fought for, fought for the custody and he's 1652 01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:10,080 got the SU VS picking them up for karate lessons at at 3:00 PM 1653 01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:15,320 or whatever in, in so many ways on paper, he's, you know, he's 1654 01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:17,760 very, very Veda. But of course it's not. 1655 01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:23,280 Of course he's of course he's giga alpha. 20 grand per month. 1656 01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:29,160 Which is, which is a child's play because I remember when Nas 1657 01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:33,000 got divorce from you know, the girl who made the milkshake 1658 01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:34,440 song. My milkshake brings all the boy 1659 01:28:34,440 --> 01:28:36,520 that girl Nas had a kid with her. 1660 01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:40,120 I don't get the idea that Nas made this much money, but 1661 01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:44,800 apparently the state of New York thought that that he did 50,000 1662 01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:47,720 a month. 50. I think that I think he's beat 1663 01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:50,240 by who's the redheaded guy used to play for the Clippers. 1664 01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:51,320 Maybe he's still. Blake. 1665 01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:58,440 Blake Griffin. What wasn't wasn't he $600,000 a 1666 01:28:58,440 --> 01:29:00,320 month? That that was a rumor. 1667 01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:02,600 It wasn't true. He was he was paying more like 1668 01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:05,280 30 or 40. But I mean, that's that's a lot 1669 01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:08,320 of money 30,000. Dollars a month? 1670 01:29:08,480 --> 01:29:10,640 You better stay on that All Star team man. 1671 01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:13,880 Oh, by the way, I'm wrong. It's fake news about Kevin 1672 01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:15,560 Federline. That was kind of a wives Joe. 1673 01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:17,800 I'm sorry. But actually, I'll tell you 1674 01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:21,320 right now, they're saying Kanye owes Kim 200 a month. 1675 01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:24,840 That's hilarious. Which is crazy because she's 1676 01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:28,560 fucking rich. That's Pacino. 1677 01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:32,560 Pacino's got 100. He had to pay 30 KA month, 110 1678 01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:36,120 up front, and then 15 KA year in an education fund. 1679 01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:40,200 Education fund is great for Alpha. 1680 01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:42,480 Yeah, a month. Yeah, for educate. 1681 01:29:42,480 --> 01:29:44,000 Where the fucks this kid going to school? 1682 01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:48,000 But yeah. Alex Rodriguez, 115,000 a month. 1683 01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:53,320 Charlie Sheen, 110,000 a month. Brendan Fraser, 75 a month. 1684 01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:55,040 That's why you saw him come back into movies. 1685 01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,080 Just man. Like some of these are crazy, 1686 01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:03,440 but yeah, federalized alpha. Frazier had that thing that 1687 01:30:03,440 --> 01:30:05,840 Foley, Dave Foley had where he got it. 1688 01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:09,000 He got hit for massive child support in a very brief period 1689 01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:11,280 where he was making a lot of money and then his career slowed 1690 01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:16,440 down and he basically became a slave to this child support 1691 01:30:16,440 --> 01:30:18,080 system. Foley is that's. 1692 01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:21,080 Where your baby mom's got to start helping you get jobs. 1693 01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,280 Like she's got to start calling the film like, hey, will you 1694 01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:25,840 this actor I love Brendan Fraser. 1695 01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,880 She he was great and bedazzled. Could you please hire him? 1696 01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:31,800 Could you please hire him? And and then, you know, then 1697 01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:32,760 you're like, then you get somebody. 1698 01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:34,400 You almost become his manager at that point. 1699 01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:38,400 Obviously alpha. He married a a beautiful pop 1700 01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:43,000 star at the height of her sanity and the attractiveness and then 1701 01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,520 he became got set for life. That's not alpha. 1702 01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:49,400 Nothing on the planet is. Yeah, and and now she's fucking 1703 01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:53,240 playing with swords in her room. Yeah, that was, remember there 1704 01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:57,120 was all these people saying that this, this arrangement with her 1705 01:30:57,120 --> 01:31:01,280 father didn't make any sense. It was like, yeah, yeah, it 1706 01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:05,200 didn't make any sense when you didn't know what was going on. 1707 01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:07,840 Yeah. Some people, well, some people 1708 01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:10,040 need to be chained to the radiator, basically. 1709 01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:15,280 Yeah, exactly. So I always think of, you know, 1710 01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:18,200 when I'm, I'm in like, I don't know, I'm like 1920. 1711 01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:20,440 I get one of these restaurant jobs, you know, these bullshit 1712 01:31:20,440 --> 01:31:22,080 jobs you get when you're a kid or whatever. 1713 01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:28,120 And everybody there is like, you know, 16 to 25 or whatever. 1714 01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:32,120 And they hire and I'm in Florida and Florida's got this thing and 1715 01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:35,800 Nevada, Nevada is this for the West Coast where? 1716 01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:39,080 Well, I'll finish the story. So I'm working there and then 1717 01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:44,440 no, I, I wasn't one of the, the waiters, whatever they, but they 1718 01:31:44,440 --> 01:31:45,960 hired this black guy to be a waiter. 1719 01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,840 He was like 40. You know, black people, they 1720 01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,000 black guys, they tend to look younger than they are or 1721 01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:53,400 whatever. So it was more or less normal. 1722 01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:55,360 They hired him and he was the best waiter. 1723 01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:58,440 They had people, people would come up to the manager. 1724 01:31:58,440 --> 01:32:02,200 So this guy is so friendly. He, he, he, I mean, he's the, he 1725 01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:07,320 was the best one that they have. He wow, Kevin's doing very, 1726 01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:09,160 very, very well. Man, yeah. 1727 01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:12,800 Look, look, go get the smile. And a girl named Victoria Prince 1728 01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:15,840 that just sounds, she sounds rich, you know, like that's the 1729 01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:17,120 name. I don't know if she's rich, but 1730 01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:19,800 that's a rich name. You can't fake that smile. 1731 01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:23,840 Well, she is now. Well, or maybe he will be again. 1732 01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:26,080 Maybe it's Part 2. Maybe it's like Ocean's 12 or 1733 01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:29,320 something. So, yeah, this guy, he gets like 1734 01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:32,560 employed a month, every month. I mean, he is like, it's just 1735 01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:34,800 obvious. This guy is this guy is a rock 1736 01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,600 star at this. People are so happy at this. 1737 01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:41,480 And then, you know, one day I'm there, I go to smoke break or 1738 01:32:41,480 --> 01:32:44,640 something, I come back and and he was gone. 1739 01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:50,440 The the Georgia police came and picked his ass up at work and 1740 01:32:50,440 --> 01:32:54,520 haul him off to jail. It was it was because because he 1741 01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:56,840 was behind on them payments. Yeah, you will. 1742 01:32:57,000 --> 01:32:58,440 They will. You will do time. 1743 01:32:58,440 --> 01:33:00,880 It's crazy. We have a like, I've seen it 1744 01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:03,320 happen too, where you're just like, yeah, you go out to lunch 1745 01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:06,120 and then they'll be like, hey, guys, I know the, the, the, the 1746 01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:07,960 2:00 PM window. We normally are. 1747 01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:09,640 We're just going to be a little short staffed. 1748 01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:14,000 They took Jeff, you know, Jeff had issue. 1749 01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:15,760 His stomach hurts or something, you know, like that. 1750 01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:18,080 You're like now he's arrested for child support. 1751 01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:19,320 Yeah. Dirty game. 1752 01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:21,280 Dirty game, but yeah, in Federal and it's not even. 1753 01:33:21,440 --> 01:33:24,240 I mean, that is unquestioned alpha. 1754 01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:27,080 It always has been. What a what a guy. 1755 01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:29,640 I mean, it's the only guy you hear about that like happening 1756 01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:32,000 to, you know what I mean? Like like for that case. 1757 01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:33,800 And he was a backup. Yeah, like you said, a backup 1758 01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:35,760 dancer. I mean, that's like, I mean, 1759 01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:39,880 that's they say I come from rags to riches, you know, that song. 1760 01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:43,000 Like it's just like, it's just amazing, amazing. 1761 01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:45,320 So that just you would have never thought you never thought 1762 01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:47,960 you'd parlay a backup dancer, John, First off, like you, like 1763 01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:50,400 you said, Merrick, like, oh, look at me, I hired the damn 1764 01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:55,080 straight backup dancer and this look what happens, you know, so 1765 01:33:56,040 --> 01:34:00,520 I have an interesting one here that that or actually, you know, 1766 01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:02,680 yeah, yeah, I have an interesting one here that I 1767 01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:06,480 think we'll get to. I think I did this because I 1768 01:34:06,480 --> 01:34:07,800 was. You guys ever watched? 1769 01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:09,680 They're kind of cheap and they're kind of hokey, but you 1770 01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:13,200 ever watched like the The History Channel, like the people 1771 01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:14,640 who made America or. Whatever. 1772 01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:15,680 Oh hell yeah. Yeah. 1773 01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:18,640 I actually love all that stuff and I'm not even the massive 1774 01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:21,000 historian, but I think that the dramatizations are like 1775 01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:23,840 shockingly good. You're kind of like like this is 1776 01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:26,440 like, it's kind of weird. It seems like a good job if 1777 01:34:26,440 --> 01:34:28,200 you're an actor because it's always the same guy. 1778 01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:30,920 It's like I saw a guy play Nikola Tesla and then he played 1779 01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:33,360 fucking Houdini in this other one. 1780 01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:35,480 Like it was crazy. He was just he was just getting 1781 01:34:35,480 --> 01:34:38,880 these jobs. And but I'm talking about two 1782 01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:43,040 guys that like straight up like we talk about building America 1783 01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:46,680 even one guy's not even American, but you have Nikola 1784 01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:53,560 Tesla versus Thomas Edison. They might both be alpha, they 1785 01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:56,360 might not, but which one's better to you guys? 1786 01:34:57,520 --> 01:35:01,440 I mean, Edison, if it's a head to head, it's Edison. 1787 01:35:01,440 --> 01:35:03,240 And yeah, he's he's certainly alpha. 1788 01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:05,160 He. Did he did win technically? 1789 01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:08,960 So is that that your basis for? That he's an incredible inventor 1790 01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:13,520 himself. He he destroyed the competition, 1791 01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:17,200 including Tesla well. JP Morgan JP Morgan destroyed 1792 01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:18,560 the competition. Let's let's. 1793 01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:25,400 OK, all right. And look, I the Tesla is one of 1794 01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:29,760 these figures that I don't know, I'm not a scientist, I'm not a, 1795 01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:34,160 a expert on electricity. But it seems like people kind of 1796 01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:40,160 get a little too excited about him and, and push the the mythos 1797 01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:42,720 a little bit too far like which is this? 1798 01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:45,320 I mean, that's a silly thing to say because this is a guy who 1799 01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:49,120 invented a type of electricity. He's pretty fucking sick, dude. 1800 01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:51,760 I don't. Know right, but like there's all 1801 01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:54,600 this is like he actually was going to make infant wireless 1802 01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:57,080 power and all this stuff and Thomas Edison stopped that like 1803 01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:59,320 no, that that's that's not what's going to happen. 1804 01:35:59,480 --> 01:36:03,200 He was he was a visionary, but he didn't he didn't have the 1805 01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:05,800 same killer instinct that big Tom did. 1806 01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:09,200 That's that's I got to go. I got to go with Edison. 1807 01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:12,240 If it's a if it's a head to head, if we're saying are they? 1808 01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:14,280 I think they're both pretty alpha. 1809 01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:16,680 But yeah, you got to give it to the big dog. 1810 01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:18,440 Bob, go ahead. You go ahead. 1811 01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:20,520 I'll be the final rule here. Go ahead. 1812 01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:26,000 So they're both alpha. I mean, so I think Edison is 1813 01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:30,960 more of a brute. I mean, obviously he's, you 1814 01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:34,000 know, massively IQ or whatever, but we're, this is a relative 1815 01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:41,320 game here. Tesla, I think a big, big and of 1816 01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:44,640 course people take it too far, but you can only do that because 1817 01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:47,080 he's because he's got the because he's got the. 1818 01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:52,640 Alternating current electricity. Yeah, because he's, he's so he's 1819 01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:55,520 got, he's got the, he's got the, the juju. 1820 01:36:55,520 --> 01:37:00,320 You can say, Hey, he invented this thing that would me, you 1821 01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:03,000 know, it would make cars running water or something like that. 1822 01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:05,400 And and it you, you kind of got to think about it a SEC. 1823 01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:07,800 You you got you're going to want to look that up before you say 1824 01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:11,440 no, he didn't because, you know, this guy was a a mad genius. 1825 01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:16,080 Did you see Trump Trump's quote the other day about about his 1826 01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:18,920 whatever his brother or his cousin or something like that? 1827 01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:23,160 Well, I know his great uncle was very involved with Tesla stuff. 1828 01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:26,840 But he, he has this, he he was at a dinner or whatever and he 1829 01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:29,920 says whichever family member was, he says, yeah, my family 1830 01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,560 member, he was a great scientist at harm. 1831 01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:34,080 Yeah, John Trump, I think. Yeah. 1832 01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:38,160 Yeah, MIT and he goes, he was a genius, he said, You know, you 1833 01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:42,160 know, he worked with, he worked with Ted Kaczynski. 1834 01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:45,840 He was a thin line, but he said that there's a thin line between 1835 01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:51,920 being a genius and a madman. People are sitting there. 1836 01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:55,240 Look at it, he said. It's like 2-2 days ago. 1837 01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:59,840 Yeah. But I wanted to say Tesla. 1838 01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:03,120 I think that one of the things that puts Tesla over the like 1839 01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:08,240 over the top is his ability to strike a pose. 1840 01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:15,200 It's cool pictures. He he like he he he Epstein did 1841 01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:17,760 the same thing. You you're never going to see a 1842 01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:21,080 candid picture of Epstein. Epstein knows where the camera. 1843 01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:22,960 Made sure of that. They made sure of that actually. 1844 01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:27,040 Was famously not allowed, actually. 1845 01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:34,880 Nice, but you know, I mean he when he looked at a camera, he 1846 01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:38,080 the face he was making was one that he had probably worked on 1847 01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:40,200 in front of a mirror for many hours. 1848 01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:44,920 Tesla he had he had a pose and it looks so good. 1849 01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:48,720 It looks so mysterious. You can see that you can imagine 1850 01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:51,000 the aura and the smoke behind him or whatever. 1851 01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:54,280 You know he when he he looks at the camera and when you look at 1852 01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:56,760 a picture of Tesla, he looks like he's looking through you. 1853 01:38:57,040 --> 01:39:01,200 It's a very predatory. You know, it's it's, it's, it's 1854 01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:03,000 the rush. It's it's the Russian thing. 1855 01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:06,520 It's he he's, you know, he's a silent predator kind of guy. 1856 01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:13,040 I mean, he is a like we always talked about on the show. 1857 01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:17,440 I saw on the show like, OK, you're a young guy, you want to 1858 01:39:17,440 --> 01:39:20,800 impress girls and you don't have like basic alpha. 1859 01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:22,840 I was like, So what? What's your move? 1860 01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:26,480 I always said the best move you got that you can do that is 1861 01:39:26,480 --> 01:39:33,160 alpha that you don't need basic alpha do is brooding women women 1862 01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:37,360 for somehow they like they say women interpret being funny. 1863 01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:40,120 They can't tell the difference between that and being smart, 1864 01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:41,320 right. So if you want a woman think 1865 01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:43,760 you're smart, you can just tell jokes and they will interpret 1866 01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:45,160 that as fine. I got married. 1867 01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:50,800 Yeah, absolutely brooding. Like, you know, like if, if, if 1868 01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:54,080 I don't know if a woman thinks you got a little bit that Dylan 1869 01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:59,480 Klebold in you or whatever. OK. 1870 01:39:59,920 --> 01:40:05,160 They, they interpret that as being Conan the Conan the 1871 01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:07,160 Barbarian. You know, they had like this was 1872 01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:11,280 a big scandal on what was it Live Journal or whatever, the 1873 01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:15,880 website or whatever that like 60% of the website was being 1874 01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:19,200 turned into these like women's like like. 1875 01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:24,080 Sexual desire, shrines to to the the Columbine killers or 1876 01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:28,480 whatever. And so Tesla in all of this. 1877 01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:32,000 He's got he like no, he Tesla pictures are. 1878 01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:35,360 I would say this is 10 out of 10 herb brooding. 1879 01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:38,720 This is what this is what you should be aspiring to if you're 1880 01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:40,360 trying to brood in front of women. 1881 01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:43,960 Yeah, they had David Bowie play him in that Christopher Nolan 1882 01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:45,000 movie. That was kind of cool. 1883 01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:48,400 It was very random, like you just wouldn't expect that. 1884 01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:53,000 But I'm going to lean Tesla. However, the I thought the two 1885 01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:57,040 of them are fat. Edison uniquely understood how 1886 01:40:57,040 --> 01:41:00,400 to get shit done, and Tesla was a savant, I think. 1887 01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:03,560 I mean, both guys were a savant, but like, Edison understood 1888 01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:06,880 where he goes. OK, if I want anything done, OK, 1889 01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:08,840 I don't do steel. I'm not doing a lot of steel 1890 01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:10,520 stuff. So Carnegie's not my, you know, 1891 01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:11,720 probably not going to go that way. 1892 01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:15,560 JP Morgan's father, which I think is also JP Moore, I can't 1893 01:41:15,560 --> 01:41:17,640 remember, but his dad was kind of like electricity. 1894 01:41:17,640 --> 01:41:19,360 That's devil bullshit. I don't like it. 1895 01:41:19,440 --> 01:41:20,640 Like, what are you doing? What are you? 1896 01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:23,960 What are you putting all this money in there for? 1897 01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:28,480 You're being swindled. Well, dad croaks, I get I 1898 01:41:28,480 --> 01:41:31,520 basically become, you know, Forex my wealth at this point, 1899 01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:34,040 if not more. If I'm JP Morgan, I'm putting 1900 01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:38,240 all that money to this guy Edison who can power, you know, 1901 01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:43,440 all this stuff and and and and do this now JP Morgan also 1902 01:41:43,440 --> 01:41:46,400 understood because because for anybody who doesn't know, Tesla 1903 01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:52,880 was out alternating current. Edison was Delta current ACDC. 1904 01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:56,240 Obviously, you know, the band name and stuff, but the, the he 1905 01:41:56,240 --> 01:42:01,440 gets JP Morgan after a while, like starts General Electric, 1906 01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:04,160 which was, I'm sorry, not stars General Electric. 1907 01:42:04,160 --> 01:42:07,720 He takes Edison's name off of Edison Electric, which people in 1908 01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:09,760 Southern California might look at their bill every month and 1909 01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:13,160 say, oh, yeah, I paid Edison Electric, but General Electric 1910 01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:17,040 was Edison Electric at the time. And then JP Morgan's like, fuck 1911 01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:19,200 Thomas Edison. So that's the only reason to me 1912 01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:21,600 where I'm kind of like, yeah, but it was like, I don't know 1913 01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:25,280 how much of the, the, the heart, the, the like crazy savvy. 1914 01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:29,760 It was beyond the machines and the mechanisms. 1915 01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:32,680 That was Edison. Because Morgan was just like, 1916 01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:37,440 look, I'll, I'll literally, I, I mean, JP Morgan, it was an 1917 01:42:37,440 --> 01:42:39,360 absolute dog. He would just, he would just 1918 01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:41,400 shut down the competition, poison the well on his 1919 01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:44,600 competition, catch him up in scandals, like anything. 1920 01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:46,840 I mean, he would, he just, he wanted to win. 1921 01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:49,720 He was an absolute dog. And he put and Edison made 1922 01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:52,160 things that were grounded in reality, right? 1923 01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:55,400 Like the Telegraph, all of these other things. 1924 01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:59,000 Tesla did some wild stuff, man. I mean, you want to talk about? 1925 01:42:59,880 --> 01:43:01,520 Theoretical versus practical, really. 1926 01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:04,320 Exactly. And yeah, And you know, Tesla 1927 01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:05,400 comes from a different background. 1928 01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:07,480 He's from, and you guys might know this history better than 1929 01:43:07,480 --> 01:43:09,680 me. He's from what is now Serbia. 1930 01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:13,360 But back in the day, he's from Austro Hungarian soldiers who 1931 01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:17,800 then went into the church. He was not in a church going or 1932 01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:21,120 he was like, I'm not doing that. I, I, he stroked a cat one day, 1933 01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:23,400 like just pet a cat and got a shock or something was like, 1934 01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:25,720 well, that's, that's it for me. I'm doing electricity for the 1935 01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:28,520 rest of my life. Kind of an like idiot savant 1936 01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:31,520 never did well in in school. Dad wanted him in the church, 1937 01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:34,160 but he was like, I'll die. I'm going to get sick if I don't 1938 01:43:34,160 --> 01:43:36,720 go here. He's kind of a, I would guess he 1939 01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:40,080 would have been diagnosed with what we call now autism at the 1940 01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:44,040 time, but back then it was like, oh, my son's kind of weird and 1941 01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:46,200 let's just, you know, we'll put him through these schools and 1942 01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:49,640 stuff. So he gets with that guy George 1943 01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:51,800 Westinghouse, I think is the guy's name, the Westinghouse 1944 01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:56,960 motor and stuff finds a way to power these things gets and, and 1945 01:43:56,960 --> 01:44:00,920 then his alternating current he, he gets, he works for Edison for 1946 01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:03,760 a long time, but Edison never likes alternating current. 1947 01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:06,280 Now does he not like it or does he not want to implement it 1948 01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:07,520 because somebody else invented it? 1949 01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:11,600 Doesn't really matter. Tesla breaks away, Edison goes, 1950 01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:14,080 you'll never work anywhere. If you leave me like I, I'm 1951 01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:15,920 sorry, you're a smart guy, but like it's over. 1952 01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:19,200 I will make sure and also I have JP Morgan to make sure that you 1953 01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:22,120 don't work. Tesla kind of toiled a little 1954 01:44:22,120 --> 01:44:25,280 bit. He got these really big ideas, 1955 01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:28,840 but I'll be honest, man, some of his wireless tech stuff, I mean, 1956 01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:33,480 like the microwave radiation stuff, which again, I'm not a 1957 01:44:33,480 --> 01:44:36,400 big microwave guy, but when you talk about radar detection and 1958 01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:39,280 things like that, that's a pretty insane invention when you 1959 01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:43,080 think about it, when you're just like, wow, at the time, yes, 1960 01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:46,080 lights in your house is crazy, but like I can detect something 1961 01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:50,240 like from far away and and, and just in an era where like God 1962 01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:52,120 knows how you transmitted any information. 1963 01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:53,240 I mean, it was a Telegraph, right? 1964 01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:57,240 It was, it was these things. And I think what's interesting 1965 01:44:57,240 --> 01:44:58,960 about Tesla, which puts them over the top and you guys might 1966 01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:02,200 disagree with me, is the weird, paranormal and honestly 1967 01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:05,320 parapolitical. He claims to have talked to 1968 01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:07,320 aliens. If I was. 1969 01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:08,600 If I was. I didn't know. 1970 01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:12,800 That oh, this is crazy. So he claims that when he was 1971 01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:16,520 doing like microwave radio technology, he transmitted some 1972 01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:18,160 message and received some wisdom. 1973 01:45:18,160 --> 01:45:20,720 He thinks to then create this wireless tech. 1974 01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:23,240 Now at the time he's broke because he was a bad 1975 01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:26,040 businessman, which I think is is beta is his beta quality. 1976 01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:28,720 He would when he was running out of money, people would say, hey, 1977 01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:30,840 what George Westinghouse would come to him and I hope I'm 1978 01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:32,800 getting his name right. I, I think that's his name. 1979 01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:36,600 He, he would come to him and say, Hey, I need, I or I would 1980 01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:38,160 need this money. And George is like, dude, your 1981 01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:41,120 royalties are way too high. People do not want to invest 1982 01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:42,520 anymore because your royalties are too high. 1983 01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:43,880 He goes all right, fuck the royalties. 1984 01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:47,560 So he really he left what they say it was about 300 million on 1985 01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:51,480 the table, I think in modern currency by doing that just so 1986 01:45:51,480 --> 01:45:53,920 he could keep he was a Craftsman at that point. 1987 01:45:54,560 --> 01:45:57,040 Again, this could be all construed as beta and I I 1988 01:45:57,040 --> 01:46:00,680 believe it now. He wanted to do this whole he's 1989 01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:03,200 like, fuck the wires. He had the Tesla coil, which we 1990 01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:05,800 still use to this day, by the way, like that is that shit is 1991 01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:09,440 crazy. He he the Tesla coils and stuff. 1992 01:46:09,440 --> 01:46:12,520 And that was the missing link to a lot of the stuff that was 1993 01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:15,680 found after he died. But he really wanted to make 1994 01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:19,960 wireless tech at the time, and he didn't like the wires. 1995 01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:23,680 I don't want all this stuff. And he ostensibly was getting 1996 01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:26,200 close to it. But guess what he wanted to do 1997 01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:27,120 with all of it. Hey. 1998 01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:29,960 And it'll be free. So then you talking about 1999 01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:33,840 Rockefeller, Carnegie, Morgan going now? 2000 01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:36,760 The wires are fine. So you know, whether it would 2001 01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:39,680 have worked or not, they're going like, I sorry, we're going 2002 01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:41,760 to chart. We got this Edison thing going. 2003 01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:43,160 People are pretty happy with that. 2004 01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:46,440 Yes, you're cool. Chicago Fest State Fair picture 2005 01:46:46,440 --> 01:46:49,960 is very cool, but we'll do the thing where we can charge money 2006 01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:51,360 for it. That seems to be going well. 2007 01:46:51,440 --> 01:46:54,440 And lastly, what I'll say about Tesla is the death ray. 2008 01:46:54,440 --> 01:46:56,480 Are you guys familiar with the Tesla death ray? 2009 01:46:57,280 --> 01:46:59,040 I believe in it. I believe in it. 2010 01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:04,080 I believe in it. So he he had documents or 2011 01:47:04,080 --> 01:47:06,680 whatever, I hate that word, but he had all these things to say. 2012 01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:09,960 I'm going to make a death ray. It was something that could ZAP 2013 01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:13,920 planes out of the sky. And we're in the 30s right now. 2014 01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:16,920 Originally Adolf Hitler heard about it and was like, hey, 2015 01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:19,720 Fostro Hungarian empire, what's up, dude? 2016 01:47:19,720 --> 01:47:21,680 Like fucking what do you, what are you doing with that thing? 2017 01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:24,760 And and he's just like, no, not you. 2018 01:47:24,920 --> 01:47:28,400 In fact, I'm making this because you're getting powerful or 2019 01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:31,000 something. So goes to America and get runs 2020 01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:33,080 into the same kind of thing. And they're basically like 2021 01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:35,640 actually hand over that shit. You should not have that. 2022 01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:37,080 Like if you have that, just give that to us. 2023 01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:41,160 And he's like, whatever the Soviets want it. 2024 01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:46,160 And all of a sudden you have this thing called the Tunguska 2025 01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:47,960 event. And I encourage everybody to 2026 01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:49,400 look it up. Now, again, this is all 2027 01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:54,000 speculative or anything. This is all speculative. 2028 01:47:54,040 --> 01:47:58,680 However, there in Tunguska, Siberia, all of a sudden one day 2029 01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:01,400 there was a massive blast and all the forests come over, but 2030 01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:04,520 there was no reported. Like the people said, it was a 2031 01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:06,120 meteor hit. There's no crater. 2032 01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:10,240 Everything just boils over in the forest and there's a lot of 2033 01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:13,480 people that think Tesla fired or not Tesla himself, but somebody 2034 01:48:13,480 --> 01:48:16,840 completed Tesla's work and was like, aim it towards the South 2035 01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:18,880 Pole and he's like, oh fuck, we were a little bit off. 2036 01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:20,880 Bam blasted out like a whole forest. 2037 01:48:21,200 --> 01:48:23,600 So Long story short, I think he was on the right move. 2038 01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:27,640 And I do think him randomly getting hit by a taxi when he 2039 01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:31,840 was in the midst of all of this. I, I, I tend to think there's, 2040 01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:34,760 you know, at least like a 30% chance that the, that he got 2041 01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:37,880 taken out or something. I, I find that stuff a lot more 2042 01:48:37,880 --> 01:48:40,240 interesting than than Edison though. 2043 01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:42,400 Edison was like, I need this done. 2044 01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:44,680 Edison goes, I will do this. If you need something done from 2045 01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:47,440 Tesla, he's like, hey, not only did I do that, but I did this. 2046 01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:49,840 Here's the thing. It cost like 900 million more 2047 01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:53,200 dollars, but I'll get it done. And everyone's like, come on, 2048 01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:58,640 you know, like so in filmmaker perspective, right, Thomas 2049 01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:00,760 Edison is Clint Eastwood. Clint Eastwood made movies for a 2050 01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:02,600 long time. He went on his own, but to still 2051 01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:06,440 to get funding. He was on time and under budget 2052 01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:10,080 no matter what whatever he was making on time, under budget. 2053 01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:14,560 So the movie was had more shot to make money and and be good, 2054 01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:17,240 even if it wasn't. And I I'm a person that loves a 2055 01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:19,920 lot of the movies that he made, even if it wasn't something that 2056 01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:21,480 was like the godfather or something. 2057 01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:24,480 Now you talk about guys like Coppola, which I think Tesla was 2058 01:49:24,480 --> 01:49:27,640 where Coppola's selling his house, selling his vineyards, 2059 01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:30,880 doing all this stuff to make Apocalypse Now, going out and 2060 01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:35,560 like in the middle of a typhoon in, in the Philippines and 2061 01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:37,640 losing everything. Like he's, he's that type of 2062 01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:39,040 guy. And I, I just think that like 2063 01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:41,920 kind of like weird death drive towards your craft. 2064 01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:46,800 It's kind of, it's kind of sick. I mean, he the beta part about 2065 01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:48,760 him too. Is he, he was celibate, though I 2066 01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:51,040 won't say that much. Being a celibate, doing all that 2067 01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:53,680 like like powering the modern world and not getting any pussy 2068 01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:56,080 is kind of rough. He had a pigeon GF right? 2069 01:49:56,880 --> 01:50:00,200 Oh. Right the the the the the pigeon 2070 01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:03,000 story like he he kept pigeons late in life. 2071 01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:04,440 He. Did It's Mike Tyson, Yeah. 2072 01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:08,720 Yeah, and supposedly he said like he he he deeply loved his 2073 01:50:08,720 --> 01:50:11,480 pigeons or something. I was just, there's so much 2074 01:50:11,480 --> 01:50:15,760 Tesla lore because he can't he became this character on like on 2075 01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:19,360 Reddit that it's hard to to figure out what what is what. 2076 01:50:19,360 --> 01:50:22,120 Although I have to say I've I've heard of the death ray, but I 2077 01:50:22,120 --> 01:50:25,920 didn't know that people linked it to the Tunguska, Tunguska 2078 01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:27,960 event, which, Yeah. All right. 2079 01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:30,160 Now, we talked about this before when I was on here. 2080 01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:33,760 The the key to a conspiracy theory is it has to be 2081 01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:35,880 entertaining. It has to be more entertaining 2082 01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:40,400 than the truth. And that's more fun than it was 2083 01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:41,880 a comment that blew up or something. 2084 01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:43,960 Yeah, OK, I'm on board with that. 2085 01:50:43,960 --> 01:50:45,920 I Yeah, He gets the seal of approval. 2086 01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:47,400 You make a change. In my mind. 2087 01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:50,000 And his he was doing the Oppenheimer thing, right? 2088 01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:52,800 He's like, actually I'm a, you know, anti war guy, but this 2089 01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:56,720 just this thing existing would make war not happen, which yeah, 2090 01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:58,840 right. And honestly and honestly for a 2091 01:50:58,840 --> 01:51:03,920 while, who's the prime? Who is the before Churchill? 2092 01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:08,240 What was the guy's name? Oh, oh. 2093 01:51:08,280 --> 01:51:09,840 Chamber. Neville Chamberlain. 2094 01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:11,720 Never. Chamberlain originally wanted 2095 01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:14,200 it, which I'm glad he didn't get it because, you know, if you 2096 01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:16,600 misgendered, if that was still around nowadays, you misgendered 2097 01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:17,920 somebody, you get death rayed, dude. 2098 01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:21,520 That's what death rayed. Like in in England you'd be 2099 01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:24,160 you'd be toast. Like they just death ray you 2100 01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:27,520 like Mars attacks, like I just I don't know. 2101 01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:30,040 I find him fascinating. I I like, I just don't think 2102 01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:31,440 Edison's that interesting, I guess. 2103 01:51:31,480 --> 01:51:35,920 I mean, he and I, I say that now thinking like, yeah, he was 2104 01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:37,160 interesting. He was trying to make motion 2105 01:51:37,160 --> 01:51:40,720 pictures and shit, like, and he was ahead on that stuff too. 2106 01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:41,640 So they're both. Great. 2107 01:51:42,760 --> 01:51:45,360 This connection you've made in my mind now, I don't know how 2108 01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:48,240 much of A gamer you you are. You were in the past like, you 2109 01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:53,480 know, in in a red alert. One of the Soviet units is the 2110 01:51:53,480 --> 01:51:57,280 Tesla coil that you can build. It'll ZAP, it'll ZAP the the 2111 01:51:57,280 --> 01:51:59,120 evil forces of capitalism for you. 2112 01:51:59,120 --> 01:52:01,880 OK, that that makes a lot more sense now. 2113 01:52:01,880 --> 01:52:06,280 All right. Yeah, that's that's no man, 2114 01:52:06,440 --> 01:52:08,560 that's awesome. So OK. 2115 01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:12,320 For the, for the Peter thing, I just made me think of the, the 2116 01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:16,760 whole savant thing versus like the, the, the Chad Mcjack Edison 2117 01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:19,120 thing. It's not like the traditional 1 2118 01:52:19,720 --> 01:52:22,720 Edison's like Todd Howard. You know who Todd Howard is? 2119 01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:26,840 No, it's this there's this role that happens is like if you're 2120 01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:31,320 an engineer, if you're an automotive engineer, whoever is 2121 01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:35,040 the most like Chad McGurk engineer, he's going to be made 2122 01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:38,400 the boss and he's his job is just going to be like whipping. 2123 01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:41,240 And I understand Edison wasn't the brains about a lot of these 2124 01:52:41,240 --> 01:52:43,960 inventions, but he was the guy that was good at sort of 2125 01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:48,840 whipping, like whipping, whipping other engineers into 2126 01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:50,760 producing product. I mean that that's that's the 2127 01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:53,360 thing. But anyways, with the the whole 2128 01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:57,080 savant thing, we were talking some of this with with Fredo, 2129 01:52:57,080 --> 01:53:00,400 who's the big Pete guy. And we we were talking about 2130 01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:03,280 like a why, why do men win at these certain things? 2131 01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:04,720 Why do women win at certain things? 2132 01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:08,760 And apparently testosterone is like nature's Adderall. 2133 01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:14,320 He said that like testosterone is increases focus. 2134 01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:16,720 This is why there's all these sort of people. 2135 01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:19,480 There's obviously a connection with people. 2136 01:53:19,480 --> 01:53:24,280 People call like Asperger's and stuff with the with with just 2137 01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:27,840 masculine in general but but testosterone so being this Uber 2138 01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:32,400 super focused person or whatever that is a high test thing. 2139 01:53:32,920 --> 01:53:37,120 Yeah, no, I, you know, it's just like the I that's, it's 2140 01:53:37,120 --> 01:53:38,320 interesting. I, I thought it was interesting. 2141 01:53:38,440 --> 01:53:40,400 I was just watching that thing the other day and I was like, I 2142 01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:42,600 got to bring this up because I, I just, I think it's, I think 2143 01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:44,880 it's fascinating because like at the end of the day, like if you 2144 01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:47,280 needed to build a nation, I, I don't know that I would hire 2145 01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:50,880 Tesla, But if I wanted to make the Uber nation, you know, like 2146 01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:53,240 if he did, like I will say, if he did team up with Hitler, he 2147 01:53:53,240 --> 01:53:55,240 would that Hitler would have sent his ass to Antarctica 2148 01:53:55,800 --> 01:53:58,640 after, after he said. Valda Gartha. 2149 01:53:58,680 --> 01:54:02,000 Yeah, he had to be like HP Lovecraft at the mountains of 2150 01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:04,360 madness time, like find what's in there, you know, like he he 2151 01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:06,960 he would have been doing shit like that with him if he did 2152 01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:10,040 team up with him. So very like Indiana Jonesy kind 2153 01:54:10,040 --> 01:54:12,840 of shit. But the last one today, and this 2154 01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:15,280 is size 1 and I was it kind of couples what we were talking 2155 01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:19,320 about at the at the beginning with some of the Epstein stuff. 2156 01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:24,040 But Dan Bongino, who when I look up a picture, he looks like the 2157 01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:27,080 Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott, like almost uncanny. 2158 01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:29,120 Like it's kind of insane. If you look at a picture of two 2159 01:54:29,120 --> 01:54:31,000 of them, they look like maybe they could be cousins or 2160 01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:34,320 something. But he I this is how out of the 2161 01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:36,480 loop I am on a lot of politics. So I didn't even know he had a 2162 01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:41,480 job in the administration but apparently he's flirted with 2163 01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:44,200 just not showing up to work over the Epstein stuff. 2164 01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:46,880 He's #2 at FBI, yeah. Yeah, which is insane. 2165 01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:49,080 I was just like, oh, I guess so. Yeah, I just did. 2166 01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:52,960 So he's underneath the cash Patel, I guess. 2167 01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:56,560 And and with the Epstein thing. And look, I we've talked about 2168 01:54:56,560 --> 01:55:01,160 it a little bit. I understand people being mad 2169 01:55:01,160 --> 01:55:03,600 about it because I ultimately think it was an unforced error 2170 01:55:03,600 --> 01:55:06,800 to even make that a part of your platform in any way. 2171 01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:08,240 It should have been a poison pill. 2172 01:55:08,320 --> 01:55:10,640 If anybody asked you if you're what you're going to do about 2173 01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:12,560 the Epstein thing, you say we got a mess at the border. 2174 01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:14,640 That's what that's what Trump used to do is we have a mess at 2175 01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:16,640 the border with that's what we need to do. 2176 01:55:17,440 --> 01:55:19,520 They're doing this and this and this and this and we want to 2177 01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:20,880 stop that. We're going to stop this right 2178 01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:24,000 now. Now, I think Dan Bongino bought 2179 01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:27,640 that, bought the message. Clearly somebody believed that 2180 01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:30,080 the Epstein thing was going to happen, right, because Dan 2181 01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:32,120 Bongino did. But do you guys think he's alpha 2182 01:55:32,120 --> 01:55:35,200 or beta? I guess for that event, but also 2183 01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:38,560 overall, I don't know much about his political correspondent 2184 01:55:38,560 --> 01:55:42,160 history. We just, we just put out a 2185 01:55:42,280 --> 01:55:45,360 episode about I got the alert. I literally just got the alert 2186 01:55:45,360 --> 01:55:46,560 for it. I was. 2187 01:55:47,240 --> 01:55:49,080 Like almost entirely about Epstein. 2188 01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:51,680 So if you're listening to this, please tune into that. 2189 01:55:51,680 --> 01:55:54,200 You can get a very, very nuanced take on that. 2190 01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:59,040 But the brief take for for me is they, if they really thought 2191 01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:03,440 that there were files for them to show people, then they're 2192 01:56:03,440 --> 01:56:07,080 stupid. Because obviously if, if the, if 2193 01:56:08,040 --> 01:56:10,600 Epstein was just what the government says, he was just a 2194 01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:14,160 bad guy and not connected to blackmailers, whatever, there 2195 01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:16,680 would be no files to to that wouldn't exist in the 1st place. 2196 01:56:16,680 --> 01:56:20,600 But if he was what people alluded to, that stuff's been 2197 01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:23,800 gone for six years because that would be the first thing that 2198 01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:27,920 you got rid of, because that's it's very easy to lose files. 2199 01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:30,920 It's a lot harder to do that than to kill a guy in protective 2200 01:56:30,920 --> 01:56:33,680 custody when everybody on the planet is watching him. 2201 01:56:34,280 --> 01:56:36,920 And I don't, I'm not, I'll be honest with you, I've never 2202 01:56:36,920 --> 01:56:41,360 listened to his podcast. I don't, I all I know about him 2203 01:56:41,360 --> 01:56:45,400 right now is that he, he's not looking so great. 2204 01:56:45,520 --> 01:56:48,120 He's kind of getting bullied by Pam Bondi. 2205 01:56:48,360 --> 01:56:51,440 And to me that, that seems kind of beta. 2206 01:56:51,440 --> 01:56:54,640 But you know, hey, I don't know, I think he was in the military 2207 01:56:54,640 --> 01:56:58,760 race, the Secret Service, right? Like, so obviously you know, 2208 01:56:59,200 --> 01:57:03,840 not, not a, not a pushover, but you know, politically also not 2209 01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:06,480 alpha. Yeah, I mean, it's, I mean it to 2210 01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:10,360 get that job, I because I would say alpha because PSI is like 2211 01:57:10,360 --> 01:57:12,360 I've said, ultra principled and he's like, yeah, if that's what 2212 01:57:12,360 --> 01:57:14,720 you believe in, run off into the woods. 2213 01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:16,400 You know what I mean? If it's not, if it's not 2214 01:57:16,400 --> 01:57:19,240 happening now, Bob, I would imagine you would disagree with 2215 01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:21,440 that. Unfortunately, I don't really 2216 01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:24,600 know anything about Bongino, but I I can still, I can still take 2217 01:57:24,600 --> 01:57:29,160 a crack at it so. Yeah, that's a real content 2218 01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:31,040 creator right there, baby. That's alpha. 2219 01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:34,360 That's alpha. Now, as far as walking out on 2220 01:57:34,360 --> 01:57:38,120 the job, whether it's principal or not will, I mean, I could 2221 01:57:38,120 --> 01:57:40,880 tell you that. Well, First off, most people 2222 01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:43,440 that have these cabinet jobs don't. 2223 01:57:45,160 --> 01:57:47,800 It's not, it's not even it's not supposed to even be a full term 2224 01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:49,280 thing. You're usually there one or two 2225 01:57:49,280 --> 01:57:53,680 years regardless. He's going to be spending most 2226 01:57:53,680 --> 01:57:59,080 of his life on on a radio show. They even if everything goes 2227 01:57:59,080 --> 01:58:01,600 successful with Trump, he's not going to be working in DC for 2228 01:58:01,600 --> 01:58:05,400 life. So it is a better move if you're 2229 01:58:05,400 --> 01:58:11,280 a snake. No principled guy to, to, to 2230 01:58:11,280 --> 01:58:14,640 say, yeah, I was there and I and I pushed my chips in and they 2231 01:58:14,640 --> 01:58:16,040 kicked me out and stuff like that. 2232 01:58:16,040 --> 01:58:18,200 Because you're going to be back on the radio soon. 2233 01:58:18,200 --> 01:58:23,160 Like regardless of, of however things go, go well, but I just 2234 01:58:23,160 --> 01:58:25,320 want to say real quick, it's an oxymoron. 2235 01:58:25,320 --> 01:58:29,120 Like like, OK, let's say that the Epstein files were a 2236 01:58:29,120 --> 01:58:34,320 repository of kompromat on the most powerful people in the 2237 01:58:34,320 --> 01:58:39,400 world. It's, it's like an oxymoron to 2238 01:58:39,400 --> 01:58:43,520 be like, OK, I'm the president and I'm going to release that. 2239 01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:47,040 I'm going to, I'm going to fuck over exactly, exactly. 2240 01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:51,920 Like if, if, if you would do that, you're saying those people 2241 01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:54,720 like are not powerful. Like what makes a person 2242 01:58:54,720 --> 01:58:57,400 powerful? What makes a person influential? 2243 01:58:58,320 --> 01:59:02,200 That's, that's that that people like the presidents rely on 2244 01:59:02,200 --> 01:59:03,880 them. It's like the idea that you 2245 01:59:03,880 --> 01:59:08,160 would you would fuck over at like every every influential, 2246 01:59:08,160 --> 01:59:12,520 powerful person world. Well that it's it's like AI 2247 01:59:12,680 --> 01:59:13,840 don't well, it doesn't make sense. 2248 01:59:13,840 --> 01:59:15,440 I don't, I don't like, I don't. I don't get it. 2249 01:59:16,640 --> 01:59:20,160 Yeah, I I guess to to say because I ultimately agree with 2250 01:59:20,160 --> 01:59:22,720 you. Like I definitely went down that 2251 01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:24,920 rabbit hole a long, like I said a long time ago. 2252 01:59:24,920 --> 01:59:27,600 It's like kind of weird when it pops back up, it kind of I think 2253 01:59:27,600 --> 01:59:31,040 Netflix did a documentary on a very like kind of just normie, 2254 01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:35,120 oh man, look at this guy kind of documentary about it. 2255 01:59:35,120 --> 01:59:37,560 Then the Maxwell trial happens. She goes down. 2256 01:59:37,720 --> 01:59:42,080 But I, I kind of, you know, I, I get where people are coming from 2257 01:59:42,080 --> 01:59:44,800 though, because like I said, you know, to me, that's, that's why 2258 01:59:44,800 --> 01:59:48,840 you don't mention it ever. Because because again, it's a 0 2259 01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:51,240 sum game. You will never, you will like if 2260 01:59:51,240 --> 01:59:54,000 it's as bad as ever, if it's as big and if it's this massive 2261 01:59:54,000 --> 01:59:57,920 tentacled beast that ever that the maximalists think that it 2262 01:59:57,920 --> 01:59:59,560 is. And I, I, to be fair, I think 2263 01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:01,600 there's, there's some reason to believe that there's some good 2264 02:00:01,600 --> 02:00:03,840 research done by people that like Whitney Webb and stuff 2265 02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:06,680 that, that, that, that, that at least have shown that if there's 2266 02:00:06,680 --> 02:00:09,920 something there, but. To me, I wouldn't have even 2267 02:00:09,920 --> 02:00:12,360 trusted a client list I got from Cash Patel. 2268 02:00:12,440 --> 02:00:14,280 That's the thing. Like I, you told me the thing 2269 02:00:14,280 --> 02:00:16,240 I'd be like, that's probably not even a real list. 2270 02:00:16,480 --> 02:00:18,920 Like because of the implications of it. 2271 02:00:19,160 --> 02:00:23,720 Like of, of like these people are running this blackmail 2272 02:00:23,840 --> 02:00:26,320 campaign and it's all these multinational corporations. 2273 02:00:26,320 --> 02:00:27,600 It's the head of all of these things. 2274 02:00:27,760 --> 02:00:30,600 And it's one of these things to basically say like we, we picked 2275 02:00:30,600 --> 02:00:33,840 the president. You're, you're an Israel black 2276 02:00:33,840 --> 02:00:36,880 male agent and stuff. Now, Cash Patel, if you guys 2277 02:00:36,880 --> 02:00:40,960 look up Cash Patel's girlfriend is an Israeli intelligence 2278 02:00:40,960 --> 02:00:45,880 operative. And he, he got the one that like 2279 02:00:45,880 --> 02:00:48,280 you see on Twitter and stuff, you know what I'm talking about 2280 02:00:48,640 --> 02:00:51,960 the IDF ones. He, he, he got one of those. 2281 02:00:51,960 --> 02:00:55,200 So I, I, I found that out today and I was like, whoa, OK, I see 2282 02:00:55,200 --> 02:00:56,800 why none of this shit happened, honestly. 2283 02:00:57,000 --> 02:00:58,680 Like, let's be real. So I definitely think there's 2284 02:00:58,680 --> 02:01:01,520 some connections there, but it was, it didn't factor into any 2285 02:01:01,520 --> 02:01:04,840 of my electoral process because I was just like, dude, that shit 2286 02:01:04,840 --> 02:01:09,080 is not like that is not going to be changed in an administration. 2287 02:01:09,120 --> 02:01:11,480 But then you started seeing the pictures of the binders and all 2288 02:01:11,480 --> 02:01:13,280 of these things. And if I'm Dan Bongino, I'm 2289 02:01:13,280 --> 02:01:14,920 like, well, I guess this is what we're doing. 2290 02:01:15,680 --> 02:01:17,400 All right, The binders. Yeah, let's do it. 2291 02:01:17,400 --> 02:01:21,320 Then if there's some sort of rug pool, whoever put the, the, the, 2292 02:01:21,400 --> 02:01:24,320 the SH on that, whether it's Trump, whether it's Bondi, 2293 02:01:24,320 --> 02:01:27,960 whether it's whether it's the invisible hand, I get why Dan 2294 02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:30,200 Bongino is like, wait, so do I get to do shit here? 2295 02:01:31,080 --> 02:01:33,640 Do I get to do anything? Because he is, I'm looking at 2296 02:01:33,640 --> 02:01:35,680 his history right here. You look at you look at 2297 02:01:35,680 --> 02:01:41,400 Bongino's ascendants right here. So like he just in the media 2298 02:01:41,400 --> 02:01:46,640 sphere, he started the Bongino report in in December 2019 as an 2299 02:01:46,640 --> 02:01:49,680 alternative to the Drudge Report because he said Drudge, Drudge 2300 02:01:49,720 --> 02:01:53,000 was basically a libtard. He's like, I'm to the right of 2301 02:01:53,000 --> 02:01:55,760 that Drudge, I'm supporting Donald Trump. 2302 02:01:56,040 --> 02:01:58,720 This is going to do that. He got banned off of everything 2303 02:01:58,720 --> 02:02:00,000 in 2020. Like a lot of people. 2304 02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:04,080 He had to go to rumble and stuff and whatever in 2021. 2305 02:02:04,080 --> 02:02:06,200 He ends up replacing Rush the Rush Limbaugh show. 2306 02:02:06,200 --> 02:02:08,760 I I think that's when Rush died. Damn. 2307 02:02:09,080 --> 02:02:12,800 So he like he's a big deal. Like he's not like this isn't 2308 02:02:12,800 --> 02:02:14,640 just some guy like you know what I mean? 2309 02:02:14,640 --> 02:02:18,040 On the on the like media thing, like like it was Cumulus media. 2310 02:02:18,040 --> 02:02:20,800 That's a massive company that just said you're the next Rush 2311 02:02:20,800 --> 02:02:24,920 Limbaugh, you know what I mean? And so I thought it was and, you 2312 02:02:24,920 --> 02:02:27,400 know, he was based during COVID. I thought his COVID stuff was 2313 02:02:27,400 --> 02:02:28,840 really good. That was the only time that was 2314 02:02:28,840 --> 02:02:31,400 when I first heard of him, to be quite honest. 2315 02:02:31,680 --> 02:02:34,600 Got a big contract with Westwood, one that's about as 2316 02:02:34,600 --> 02:02:39,680 big as it goes in radio. And then he kind of left all 2317 02:02:39,680 --> 02:02:42,440 that to do this. And I kind of think he was like, 2318 02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:44,280 I should have just stayed doing media. 2319 02:02:44,280 --> 02:02:45,760 I could have done my Epstein stuff. 2320 02:02:45,760 --> 02:02:50,200 I could have done my, you know, this and that like, and I, I 2321 02:02:50,200 --> 02:02:53,120 don't know, I, I, I have a tough time deciding because at the end 2322 02:02:53,120 --> 02:02:57,040 of the day, you take a job with the FBI, right. 2323 02:02:57,440 --> 02:03:01,240 And the FBI is interesting because you know, our 2324 02:03:01,240 --> 02:03:03,880 intelligence, you know, right now I see a lot of like people 2325 02:03:03,880 --> 02:03:07,360 that are trusting the plan. I don't know man, the plan in 2326 02:03:07,360 --> 02:03:09,760 terms of intelligence a couple years ago was how do we coop the 2327 02:03:09,760 --> 02:03:11,520 president? Yeah. 2328 02:03:12,440 --> 02:03:16,840 So I we're talking about like just a few months of Trump 2329 02:03:16,840 --> 02:03:20,560 working that over in his favor. And I don't know if Dan Bongino 2330 02:03:20,560 --> 02:03:23,200 looked and went like, holy shit, this is I am not a guy. 2331 02:03:23,200 --> 02:03:26,920 I am not Charles Bronson and death wish whipping around the 2332 02:03:26,920 --> 02:03:28,880 bag and Nichols like, yeah, let's go get him. 2333 02:03:29,120 --> 02:03:30,960 It's actually quite not that job. 2334 02:03:30,960 --> 02:03:34,000 So I I'm like right in the middle man cuz like at the end 2335 02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:36,240 of the day, is it is it alpha to walk out of like the greatest 2336 02:03:36,240 --> 02:03:37,320 job in the world? He. 2337 02:03:37,400 --> 02:03:38,840 Didn't go. Well. 2338 02:03:39,240 --> 02:03:40,600 He didn't, actually. Walk out. 2339 02:03:40,640 --> 02:03:41,600 Yeah. He hasn't done it yet. 2340 02:03:41,600 --> 02:03:43,880 Yeah, you're right. He said I might walk out, which 2341 02:03:43,960 --> 02:03:47,880 if, now if, if he does quit, then disregard everything I'm 2342 02:03:47,880 --> 02:03:50,360 about to say. But the idea of saying, well, 2343 02:03:50,920 --> 02:03:54,080 leaking that I'm thinking about quitting is a way to tell his 2344 02:03:54,080 --> 02:03:56,760 supporters, hey, look, I'm still that guy. 2345 02:03:57,000 --> 02:03:59,960 I'm very angry about this, but I'm not actually going to quit 2346 02:03:59,960 --> 02:04:03,240 my incredibly prestigious job with the FBI. 2347 02:04:03,560 --> 02:04:09,360 And you know, the this stuff for normies are normies like normal 2348 02:04:09,360 --> 02:04:12,120 human beings who don't think about politics constantly. 2349 02:04:12,200 --> 02:04:16,000 They're always looking for one weird trick to solve the problem 2350 02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:18,560 of politics forever, which is that's completely 2351 02:04:18,560 --> 02:04:21,400 understandable. But this is what the this 2352 02:04:22,040 --> 02:04:26,640 Epstein file Mcguffin is. I, if there is still a file, if 2353 02:04:26,640 --> 02:04:29,480 there's a file and it, it was the dossier that everybody 2354 02:04:29,480 --> 02:04:33,040 thinks they could release it and nothing, nothing would change 2355 02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:36,920 because that's not the structural reality of, of, of 2356 02:04:36,960 --> 02:04:38,800 how the empire works doesn't change. 2357 02:04:38,800 --> 02:04:42,680 So I think that it's crazy for people to put so much focus into 2358 02:04:42,680 --> 02:04:45,480 this. However, that's just what that's 2359 02:04:45,480 --> 02:04:47,200 what people are going to do. It doesn't. 2360 02:04:47,200 --> 02:04:49,800 I don't think it's. Necessarily hard to it like they 2361 02:04:49,800 --> 02:04:52,800 that's what I mean they bring it to it like they signal boosted 2362 02:04:52,800 --> 02:04:54,400 it in a way. It's like like you could have 2363 02:04:54,400 --> 02:04:57,400 just let that thing be a fringe thing, but then it became like 2364 02:04:57,720 --> 02:04:59,400 something that you would like on Fox News. 2365 02:04:59,400 --> 02:05:01,320 I saw like a long discussion about Jeffrey Epstein. 2366 02:05:01,360 --> 02:05:04,520 I was like damn. Like so with this whole like, 2367 02:05:04,560 --> 02:05:06,480 like don't make it. It shouldn't have been any part 2368 02:05:06,480 --> 02:05:09,720 of the campaign if if you wanted it to just be like not like I 2369 02:05:09,720 --> 02:05:11,280 don't know. That's the weird part. 2370 02:05:11,280 --> 02:05:14,800 I get the people who feel rug pulled ultimately, like, again, 2371 02:05:14,800 --> 02:05:16,600 what are you going to do? Yeah, what are you going to do 2372 02:05:16,600 --> 02:05:18,240 with your vote? They were rug pulled. 2373 02:05:18,280 --> 02:05:19,120 Yeah, they. Were rug pulled. 2374 02:05:19,120 --> 02:05:20,200 What are you going to do with your vote though? 2375 02:05:20,200 --> 02:05:21,200 What are you going to do with your vote? 2376 02:05:21,200 --> 02:05:23,600 Vote with the person. But Gavin Newsom, like I just 2377 02:05:23,600 --> 02:05:26,280 said, Gavin Newsom on Shawn Ryan couldn't commit to not 2378 02:05:26,280 --> 02:05:29,000 castrating 9 year old kids. He couldn't commit to it. 2379 02:05:29,000 --> 02:05:30,600 And he has a nine year old daughter and he goes, yeah, 2380 02:05:30,800 --> 02:05:34,120 that's crazy to me anyways, I will never support anything that 2381 02:05:34,280 --> 02:05:37,000 belittle stranded people. And it's like, you know, so it's 2382 02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:39,760 like at the end of the day, like you will have to weigh out like 2383 02:05:39,760 --> 02:05:43,560 a binary, but also can still feel like rug pulled in that 2384 02:05:43,560 --> 02:05:44,840 way. And I that's probably what Dan 2385 02:05:44,840 --> 02:05:48,200 Bongino thinks right now. I got rug pulled but what else 2386 02:05:48,360 --> 02:05:50,720 am I going to do? They promised something that 2387 02:05:50,720 --> 02:05:53,280 they couldn't deliver and they're going to be, they're 2388 02:05:53,280 --> 02:05:55,960 going to be punished for that. Reputation wise, Bondi might 2389 02:05:55,960 --> 02:05:57,960 lose her job. I think, I think Patel's out and 2390 02:05:57,960 --> 02:05:59,600 I think and guess where Patel could go? 2391 02:05:59,720 --> 02:06:03,080 Guess who's starting a third party that loves Indian people? 2392 02:06:04,040 --> 02:06:07,120 Yeah, but good luck with that. No, I just mean, I know I'm not 2393 02:06:07,120 --> 02:06:10,440 good luck with it, but that is literally a job waiting for him. 2394 02:06:10,440 --> 02:06:16,120 I bet is that like the H1 fucking B, you know, the program 2395 02:06:16,120 --> 02:06:18,720 job like that is 1000% where he's going to go the minute 2396 02:06:18,720 --> 02:06:21,080 because we don't forget like Trump will fire a lot of these 2397 02:06:21,080 --> 02:06:22,440 people. And I'm not saying it's because 2398 02:06:22,440 --> 02:06:24,520 of incoherent, it's just I think he's just going to fire a few 2399 02:06:24,520 --> 02:06:25,080 people. So. 2400 02:06:25,360 --> 02:06:27,120 Like he loves doing that. That's the. 2401 02:06:27,200 --> 02:06:29,520 Thing right so it's going to happen so I always when I see 2402 02:06:29,520 --> 02:06:32,520 people that are so sure of this so sure of that I'm like he 2403 02:06:32,520 --> 02:06:34,840 might fire these guys so just you know, there's no reason to 2404 02:06:35,120 --> 02:06:39,040 you know, get that locked in on. It But in Machiavelli's The 2405 02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:41,840 Prince, he says the first thing you should do when you take 2406 02:06:41,840 --> 02:06:47,240 power is hire somebody to be one of your top your top guys, your 2407 02:06:47,240 --> 02:06:51,000 top visible guys. This the biggest piece of shit 2408 02:06:51,000 --> 02:06:54,880 that you can possibly find. Find the most worthless sack of 2409 02:06:54,880 --> 02:06:58,920 shit that everyone hates in the entire world and give him a top 2410 02:06:58,920 --> 02:07:01,920 job. Stalin did this repeatedly with 2411 02:07:01,920 --> 02:07:03,520 his, with his head of intelligence. 2412 02:07:03,520 --> 02:07:06,960 Guys like Beria, I forget the guy before Barry, the bear you 2413 02:07:06,960 --> 02:07:09,280 killed like that was his. That was his, his thing. 2414 02:07:09,280 --> 02:07:12,200 He'd always had this monster in the background that everybody 2415 02:07:12,200 --> 02:07:15,200 hated and every like 10 years he'd just kill him and get a new 2416 02:07:15,200 --> 02:07:17,160 one. This way, he said he's in 2417 02:07:17,160 --> 02:07:20,920 Machiavelli. He says one day you'll be, these 2418 02:07:20,920 --> 02:07:24,880 were kings, but you'll be in the medieval version of being behind 2419 02:07:24,880 --> 02:07:27,400 in the polls. People won't be happy with you. 2420 02:07:27,720 --> 02:07:30,240 They're going to be looking for a new looking, looking to cut 2421 02:07:30,240 --> 02:07:36,040 your head off and at that moment, fire that guy, admonish 2422 02:07:36,040 --> 02:07:38,160 him publicly, call him a shit bird. 2423 02:07:38,480 --> 02:07:42,320 The people will love you. And it's it's, it's a, it's a 2424 02:07:42,320 --> 02:07:44,920 own goal in reverse. You know what I mean? 2425 02:07:44,960 --> 02:07:49,320 It's, and this is like one of his is is it's, it's like a 2426 02:07:49,320 --> 02:07:52,480 stupid trick, but he's like, this is a, a primary, a, a 2427 02:07:52,480 --> 02:07:56,520 political lesson. I want to I want to as we close 2428 02:07:56,520 --> 02:07:58,000 up here and I thank you guys for your time. 2429 02:07:58,000 --> 02:08:00,720 I, I want to say the the the last thing I want to talk about 2430 02:08:00,720 --> 02:08:02,520 now. I, I just know Bog, you've spent 2431 02:08:02,520 --> 02:08:06,240 some time in Miami in your life, so I think you might appreciate 2432 02:08:06,240 --> 02:08:07,480 this story. Maybe you knew this. 2433 02:08:07,480 --> 02:08:11,680 I don't know. I am a sports historian. 2434 02:08:11,840 --> 02:08:14,800 It's no job for it, of course, but I just, I do it for the love 2435 02:08:14,800 --> 02:08:16,640 of the game. I'm like, I'm like the Tesla of, 2436 02:08:16,760 --> 02:08:21,000 of sports historians. I love the AFL and NFL merger 2437 02:08:21,000 --> 02:08:23,760 time because I thought that was like the Wild West of a sport 2438 02:08:23,760 --> 02:08:26,800 that now dominates all of sports in my opinion. 2439 02:08:27,560 --> 02:08:29,840 So for anybody who doesn't know, there were two late football was 2440 02:08:29,840 --> 02:08:31,520 nothing. If you watch old football from 2441 02:08:31,520 --> 02:08:33,240 the 60s, you will turn it off immediately. 2442 02:08:33,240 --> 02:08:34,640 It sucks. It's not fun. 2443 02:08:34,640 --> 02:08:37,440 It's I, it's just completely not what you think. 2444 02:08:38,280 --> 02:08:41,000 Now. There used to be a, a rule in 2445 02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:44,320 football like for a long time, I think up until like the late 60s 2446 02:08:44,520 --> 02:08:47,200 where you could not block if you were on the offensive line, you 2447 02:08:47,200 --> 02:08:50,800 couldn't use your hands. So you just blocked like a Mario 2448 02:08:51,160 --> 02:08:54,480 flat Mario thing with your like, Bah, just like like it was, it 2449 02:08:54,600 --> 02:08:57,440 made the game stupid, right? So it was just, it was just, it 2450 02:08:57,440 --> 02:09:00,280 was just dumb. So now during this time, and 2451 02:09:00,280 --> 02:09:03,240 this is a job that still is done today, but you have a Rules 2452 02:09:03,240 --> 02:09:08,360 Committee and a competition fair play committee in the NFL for 20 2453 02:09:08,360 --> 02:09:11,640 years, there was a guy who had the job and his name is not that 2454 02:09:11,640 --> 02:09:13,760 important. But everybody around the world 2455 02:09:13,760 --> 02:09:16,080 knew that. Or if you were in the guy, I 2456 02:09:16,080 --> 02:09:18,160 should say, everybody around the the league knew that. 2457 02:09:18,160 --> 02:09:21,360 The real chairman of the Rules Committee, his name was Don 2458 02:09:21,360 --> 02:09:24,880 Shula. Don Shula also coached the team. 2459 02:09:24,880 --> 02:09:27,400 So you're in charge of the rules of the NFL. 2460 02:09:27,400 --> 02:09:30,400 And he's made some great changes like using your hands and, you 2461 02:09:30,400 --> 02:09:32,560 know, ushering in the forward pass, all these things. 2462 02:09:32,880 --> 02:09:36,760 But he had a team go undefeated. It's the only team to ever do it 2463 02:09:36,960 --> 02:09:41,800 go undefeated. 1972. 1972 now famously for anybody who doesn't 2464 02:09:41,800 --> 02:09:44,920 know, whenever a team is like 13 and O, 14 and O nowadays. 2465 02:09:45,080 --> 02:09:46,360 Now these guys I think are dead now. 2466 02:09:46,360 --> 02:09:47,560 So I don't know if they still do this. 2467 02:09:47,560 --> 02:09:50,400 A lot of them are dead, but they, I think Mercury Morris 2468 02:09:50,400 --> 02:09:53,480 might have been the last living member or living Hall of Famer, 2469 02:09:53,480 --> 02:09:54,760 I should say of that, of that team. 2470 02:09:54,960 --> 02:09:57,120 And but they would pop bottles in the champagne. 2471 02:09:57,120 --> 02:10:00,160 Nobody's beating our record and and nobody has the 2007 Patriots 2472 02:10:00,160 --> 02:10:03,880 almost did it, but they lost to the, to the Giants in the, in 2473 02:10:03,880 --> 02:10:05,800 the, in the Super Bowl. They they they almost did it, 2474 02:10:05,800 --> 02:10:08,480 but they didn't. So, but at the time, just 2475 02:10:08,480 --> 02:10:12,800 thinking about like, OK, you are the undefeated team in the 2476 02:10:12,800 --> 02:10:14,960 league. Nobody can figure out why they 2477 02:10:14,960 --> 02:10:18,040 can't beat you or anything. And you also run the fucking 2478 02:10:18,040 --> 02:10:22,760 referee committee on there. It's kind of based when you 2479 02:10:22,760 --> 02:10:25,160 think about it. And he had it until he was done. 2480 02:10:25,160 --> 02:10:29,520 He was he was the most influential man in football bar 2481 02:10:29,520 --> 02:10:32,120 none for 30 years. And like you couple it with 2482 02:10:32,120 --> 02:10:34,640 today, like if you were a team with the the Kansas City Chiefs 2483 02:10:34,640 --> 02:10:36,760 right now, they're like obviously the number one team, 2484 02:10:36,800 --> 02:10:39,800 you know, for the last six or seven years, you would say if 2485 02:10:39,800 --> 02:10:42,560 their coach, Andy Reid always like, hey, I'm taking a new job 2486 02:10:42,560 --> 02:10:43,960 in the NFL, but I'm still coaching. 2487 02:10:44,120 --> 02:10:46,040 I'm going to I'm going to be in charge of the Rules Committee. 2488 02:10:46,280 --> 02:10:47,680 Ever be like, what the fuck, dude? 2489 02:10:48,440 --> 02:10:51,720 Don Shula was like, Hey, do you guys want to grow the sport? 2490 02:10:51,880 --> 02:10:54,840 Do you guys want to stop, make it to where Harvard and Yale 2491 02:10:54,840 --> 02:10:56,560 aren't, where all the football players come from? 2492 02:10:57,120 --> 02:10:58,640 Well, guess what? I get to go undefeated and win 2493 02:10:58,640 --> 02:11:00,240 Super Bowls, but I'll fix your damn sport. 2494 02:11:00,240 --> 02:11:03,400 So I thought that was kind of a nice patronage model. 2495 02:11:03,400 --> 02:11:04,400 I don't know what you think of that. 2496 02:11:05,200 --> 02:11:09,640 Well, growing up, I mean my growing up in Florida, I mean, 2497 02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:12,080 my favorite athlete was Dan Marino. 2498 02:11:13,360 --> 02:11:15,920 Quickest quickest release ever. Amazing. 2499 02:11:16,480 --> 02:11:19,000 It was, it was, you know, I didn't realize it. 2500 02:11:19,080 --> 02:11:23,400 Like it's, I was obvious after sort of after like Dan Marino 2501 02:11:23,400 --> 02:11:27,440 was the last guy who like play, who played quarterback in the 2502 02:11:27,440 --> 02:11:30,320 70s model. Because like when you were a, a, 2503 02:11:30,480 --> 02:11:32,920 a, a Dolphins fan, you're watching this guy. 2504 02:11:32,920 --> 02:11:35,760 He's throwing bombs over and over again. 2505 02:11:36,080 --> 02:11:39,120 And like it's, it's blatantly obvious why no one does that 2506 02:11:39,120 --> 02:11:40,280 anymore. Because by the way, when you 2507 02:11:40,280 --> 02:11:41,840 were a fan at the time, this is Dan Marino. 2508 02:11:41,840 --> 02:11:43,960 He was my opinion. He's the greatest quarterback 2509 02:11:43,960 --> 02:11:48,680 that ever lived. However, when he's no people 2510 02:11:48,680 --> 02:11:49,960 wouldn't even agree at that time. 2511 02:11:49,960 --> 02:11:52,560 They would say not only he. Didn't win, I mean, 2512 02:11:52,640 --> 02:11:56,000 unfortunately. Not only, not, not only Montana, 2513 02:11:56,000 --> 02:11:59,120 Steve Young, by the way, it's like, OK, Montana's the greatest 2514 02:11:59,120 --> 02:12:01,880 quarterback in the world because he wins championship, OK, to 2515 02:12:01,880 --> 02:12:04,360 replace him and the very the next guy, oh, he wins the 2516 02:12:04,360 --> 02:12:06,240 championship. Maybe he's a little bit more 2517 02:12:06,240 --> 02:12:10,000 than Joe Montana, but anyways, this he's throwing these bombs. 2518 02:12:10,000 --> 02:12:12,960 And then yeah, realize like, yeah, this is this is not a 2519 02:12:13,000 --> 02:12:15,800 ideal way to play football. You should throw be throwing 2520 02:12:15,800 --> 02:12:19,640 short pass, because every time that that he would chunk up the 2521 02:12:19,640 --> 02:12:23,840 75 yard bombs, you, you know, your heart would stop you like 2522 02:12:23,840 --> 02:12:24,920 please don't get an interception. 2523 02:12:24,920 --> 02:12:28,400 Please don't cause the turn out like well, you know, every game 2524 02:12:28,400 --> 02:12:32,720 has sort of things that are OP in it that that give a game its 2525 02:12:32,800 --> 02:12:35,920 feel. And in, in, I think in in in 2526 02:12:35,920 --> 02:12:39,600 American football, the turnover is like the most Opie thing. 2527 02:12:40,560 --> 02:12:43,440 Yeah, turnover margin. I mean if you any successful 2528 02:12:43,440 --> 02:12:46,920 team, you look at their turnover margin, it's usually in the plus 2529 02:12:46,920 --> 02:12:49,200 and at a very high level. So and. 2530 02:12:49,600 --> 02:12:52,920 And also someone who who throws like that, I know he had a fast 2531 02:12:52,920 --> 02:12:56,600 release, but when you're dropping back to to bomb it, 2532 02:12:56,960 --> 02:13:01,320 that there's giant line line linebackers and defensive ends 2533 02:13:01,320 --> 02:13:03,520 coming after you. And back then there were like 2534 02:13:03,520 --> 02:13:06,000 roughing the passer technically existing as a penalty. 2535 02:13:06,160 --> 02:13:08,000 It was a thing that could happen, but it was more 2536 02:13:08,040 --> 02:13:10,920 theoretical than yeah. Yeah, they were getting killed. 2537 02:13:10,920 --> 02:13:13,520 Yeah, like. Comanche Indian style execution 2538 02:13:13,520 --> 02:13:16,000 in the backfield like you know, it was crazy. 2539 02:13:16,040 --> 02:13:20,640 No, they Marino is it was incredible because Marino my dad 2540 02:13:20,640 --> 02:13:22,920 still has my dad's not a Dolphins fan. 2541 02:13:22,920 --> 02:13:27,240 He's just a football fan. He had a just a tape of in 1985. 2542 02:13:27,240 --> 02:13:29,200 The Bears were the best team in football wasn't even close. 2543 02:13:29,640 --> 02:13:32,000 Dan Marino tore them apart. He was the only guy to do it. 2544 02:13:32,200 --> 02:13:34,040 He tore them apart because he was had a quick release. 2545 02:13:34,120 --> 02:13:37,120 His wide receivers were coked out of their mind, but they ran 2546 02:13:37,120 --> 02:13:39,360 like 4 three 40s. So they get down field quick 2547 02:13:39,360 --> 02:13:40,920 enough to where nobody could hit him. 2548 02:13:41,120 --> 02:13:43,360 And it was Mark Duper and Mark Clayton were their names. 2549 02:13:43,360 --> 02:13:45,680 They were both fantastic players, but they were, it was 2550 02:13:45,680 --> 02:13:49,280 just, it was a lightning in a bottle, Miami Vice type thing 2551 02:13:49,280 --> 02:13:50,680 happening. And it was, it was really cool 2552 02:13:50,680 --> 02:13:52,360 looking cool in the uniforms and everything. 2553 02:13:52,360 --> 02:13:55,360 But I just thought that was interesting about Don, Don Shula 2554 02:13:55,600 --> 02:13:58,240 running the lead. I mean, he's, he was, I, I mean, 2555 02:13:58,240 --> 02:14:00,960 you could even say there was a Jim Clyburn element to, to Don 2556 02:14:00,960 --> 02:14:02,800 Shula. Although I, I would say Don 2557 02:14:02,800 --> 02:14:04,560 Shula might have won more things. 2558 02:14:06,840 --> 02:14:08,600 I mean, just for himself, just himself. 2559 02:14:08,600 --> 02:14:10,080 He's got more trophies for himself. 2560 02:14:10,080 --> 02:14:11,480 He, he wasn't helping other people win. 2561 02:14:11,480 --> 02:14:14,080 He was, he was, he was winning this, this thing. 2562 02:14:14,080 --> 02:14:17,160 And he's just the type of guy that like he has like 8 kids or 2563 02:14:17,160 --> 02:14:22,720 he has like 8 successors either by marriage or by just like kid 2564 02:14:22,720 --> 02:14:24,200 grandkids or stuff. They're all coaching in the 2565 02:14:24,200 --> 02:14:27,640 league and stuff. We will have Shula's for all the 2566 02:14:27,640 --> 02:14:29,560 rest of our lifetimes and beyond us. 2567 02:14:29,600 --> 02:14:31,840 It's just unreal. So. 2568 02:14:32,240 --> 02:14:34,960 I That's crazy. I have Jim Clyburn trading 2569 02:14:34,960 --> 02:14:36,520 cards, by the way. Really are. 2570 02:14:36,600 --> 02:14:37,560 They made by tops. Are they made by? 2571 02:14:37,600 --> 02:14:41,120 Are they made by tops or like upper deck or something? 2572 02:14:41,160 --> 02:14:43,720 I don't know where I I have to go look, but they look just like 2573 02:14:43,720 --> 02:14:46,360 a sports card and they're just pictures of Jim Clyburn in the 2574 02:14:46,360 --> 02:14:47,720 back. That's all these these 2575 02:14:47,720 --> 02:14:49,720 boondoggles that he that he's done or whatever. 2576 02:14:51,600 --> 02:14:54,760 Like as far as the sports thing, I do want to say it's like, you 2577 02:14:54,760 --> 02:14:58,440 know, the first technology of like the superior method. 2578 02:14:59,920 --> 02:15:01,760 We, we see this a lot. It's like in basketball, you 2579 02:15:01,760 --> 02:15:05,280 have like like people didn't understand the time, but like 2580 02:15:05,280 --> 02:15:08,480 Robert Horry was, was, was playing like next generation 2581 02:15:08,480 --> 02:15:13,520 basketball before it was ready. The the I always think of the 2582 02:15:13,520 --> 02:15:16,040 best version of this with with with football was that with 2583 02:15:16,080 --> 02:15:20,280 quarterback was Jeff Garcia. You take a guy. 2584 02:15:20,520 --> 02:15:23,400 I, I, I, I've, I've met him and I, I took a football to his 2585 02:15:23,400 --> 02:15:25,240 house and got it signed. He's a very nice guy. 2586 02:15:26,960 --> 02:15:29,160 Awesome. Like cause 'cause Jeff Garcia 2587 02:15:29,720 --> 02:15:34,720 was, he would just like we're talking like in his mid 30s. 2588 02:15:35,040 --> 02:15:38,960 He's not super athletic. He's clearly not like a super 2589 02:15:38,960 --> 02:15:44,200 gifted athlete in any way that that people recognized at all at 2590 02:15:44,200 --> 02:15:47,120 that time. So you you had this sort of like 2591 02:15:47,920 --> 02:15:52,800 like a really basic beta version of a guy that OK, he only he 2592 02:15:52,800 --> 02:15:54,640 just does this one thing really well. 2593 02:15:54,840 --> 02:15:59,240 He he can read an offense and get the and and get the ball out 2594 02:15:59,240 --> 02:16:00,920 of his hands really fast. That's it. 2595 02:16:00,920 --> 02:16:03,720 But he did all this other stuff. No, he just he's bad at this. 2596 02:16:03,720 --> 02:16:05,480 He's bad at that. He can just get rid of the ball 2597 02:16:05,480 --> 02:16:08,520 really fast and read it and read the defense really fast and just 2598 02:16:08,680 --> 02:16:11,480 quick get rid of the ball. 5 yard pass really quick and 2599 02:16:11,480 --> 02:16:13,400 you're seeing this guy and he's still starting. 2600 02:16:13,400 --> 02:16:16,280 He's 32, he's 33, he's 34. You're like, what is this guy 2601 02:16:16,280 --> 02:16:17,440 doing? Still starting? 2602 02:16:17,720 --> 02:16:20,080 And then, you know, later on you get generate. 2603 02:16:20,160 --> 02:16:23,800 Now you get guys that are, they realize that's the methods. 2604 02:16:23,800 --> 02:16:27,640 Now you have super athletes, super talented guys that are 2605 02:16:27,640 --> 02:16:31,360 doing the Jeff Garcia thing and this, this creates the next 2606 02:16:31,360 --> 02:16:33,799 level. Yep, no, I mean like, like it's 2607 02:16:33,840 --> 02:16:36,240 a guy like Randall Cunningham right now, guy he's kicking 2608 02:16:36,240 --> 02:16:39,400 himself that he wasn't around. Like nowadays he's like freak 2609 02:16:39,400 --> 02:16:42,639 guys. But yeah, guys, thank you once 2610 02:16:42,639 --> 02:16:44,200 again for coming by. It's always, always a pleasure 2611 02:16:44,200 --> 02:16:47,200 talking to you guys. Make sure you guys go check out. 2612 02:16:47,440 --> 02:16:49,280 Check out good old boys on Patreon. 2613 02:16:49,760 --> 02:16:51,879 Like I said, you guys just recently released it like I'm 2614 02:16:51,879 --> 02:16:56,360 going to listen to it, but the the nuance Epstein episode, 2615 02:16:56,920 --> 02:17:00,120 which it's a fun way to that's a good way to frame a Jeffrey 2616 02:17:00,120 --> 02:17:02,160 Epstein episode is as as nuanced. 2617 02:17:03,000 --> 02:17:07,160 But yeah, that's that's good. So any any big anything big 2618 02:17:07,160 --> 02:17:11,160 coming up guys or you guys just. Age of consent Nuanced. 2619 02:17:11,160 --> 02:17:17,200 Yeah, Principal. Principal of Libertarian 2620 02:17:17,200 --> 02:17:19,120 discussion. Listen. 2621 02:17:19,520 --> 02:17:21,920 Yeah, absolutely. You guys got anything big coming 2622 02:17:21,920 --> 02:17:25,360 up? Any, any, any teasers any last 2623 02:17:25,360 --> 02:17:27,240 time that you you guys were ready to drop the Abraham 2624 02:17:27,240 --> 02:17:29,000 Lincoln episode? So I know that was an absolute 2625 02:17:29,000 --> 02:17:33,559 bomb of a, of an episode to to drop on the public there. 2626 02:17:33,559 --> 02:17:35,840 So is there anything big in the pipeline for good old boys? 2627 02:17:36,120 --> 02:17:41,840 Oh, that's yeah, we got just like 5 hours of just laying into 2628 02:17:41,879 --> 02:17:46,040 one of the like heroes of American history that was. 2629 02:17:46,680 --> 02:17:48,120 We don't. We don't even use pennies 2630 02:17:48,120 --> 02:17:50,760 anymore so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2631 02:17:50,799 --> 02:17:52,520 Finally the injustice is corrected. 2632 02:17:52,680 --> 02:17:57,600 We got an X filed episode in the hopper that'll be out soonish. 2633 02:17:58,000 --> 02:18:01,360 And yeah, and most importantly, we're going to be featured on 2634 02:18:01,360 --> 02:18:04,400 Rare Candy. That's true. 2635 02:18:04,440 --> 02:18:06,160 Yeah. Oh, how could I slip my mind? 2636 02:18:06,160 --> 02:18:07,799 Yeah, absolutely. It's always fun. 2637 02:18:07,799 --> 02:18:09,799 We'll catch up again sometimes on that. 2638 02:18:09,799 --> 02:18:11,120 No guys everywhere. Safe weekend. 2639 02:18:11,120 --> 02:18:20,280 We'll catch you guys next time. Southern Texas heat is burning 2640 02:18:20,360 --> 02:18:31,160 up my feet. Carolina snow is falling. 2641 02:18:31,520 --> 02:18:42,280 Oh oh so slow. One last cigarette, then it's 2642 02:18:42,280 --> 02:18:44,440 time. I'm forbidden. 2643 02:18:46,879 --> 02:18:52,920 I don't rightly know where it is. 2644 02:18:53,480 --> 02:19:03,799 I'm bound to go, baby. There ain't nothing like man 2645 02:19:05,200 --> 02:19:15,120 without harm or I tell you something or let you earn you 2646 02:19:15,120 --> 02:19:27,680 don't really own Something's in the water drives these people 2647 02:19:28,120 --> 02:19:33,959 mad. Something's in your daughter. 2648 02:19:35,120 --> 02:19:42,240 It makes me won't hurt real. Yeah, 2649 02:20:05,240 --> 02:20:17,120 Southern blood runs deep. Follows me back east, all the 2650 02:20:17,480 --> 02:20:24,920 way down home to a girl I call my own. 2651 02:20:27,760 --> 02:20:35,800 Sits with me for a while, Southern drawing a beautiful 2652 02:20:36,120 --> 02:20:44,280 smile. Pretty ass can be think I saw 2653 02:20:45,160 --> 02:20:55,800 you in my dreams baby. There ain't nothing like man 2654 02:20:57,280 --> 02:21:06,840 without harm or I tell you something that you are and you 2655 02:21:06,840 --> 02:21:17,880 don't really. Something's in the water drives 2656 02:21:17,920 --> 02:21:26,200 these people mad. Something's in your daughter. 2657 02:21:26,960 --> 02:22:01,200 It makes me won't hurt real bad. The.