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I I saw a really interesting celebrity quote graphic that
women were identifying with. It's a woman by the she's an
actress named Dakota Johnson. She gets a lot of Flack because
she's from 2 very famous people, Melanie Griffith and Don
Johnson, and she direct attempted to direct Madam Webb
and and it people call her like a nepotism baby.
And there was she she came out with a like a quote where
basically she was saying I sleep is like number one thing for me.
I need at least 10 hours or I don't feel right.
Yeah. 14 I could do like 14 if I if I wanted to and there were a
lot, a lot of women were going like you what guys, this is so
me and everyone's like I know they they all need 10 hours of
sleep like they all. Have you ever met a woman with
like 6.75 hours of sleep? Brutal.
You're scary, don't let her drive.
Like, well, that's yeah, well, that's Pam Popper.
That's like, and you know, she's not an everyday, you know, our
previous guest, Pam Popper, which I love those episodes.
She's one of those like, yeah, I need like 5-6 hours and I'm
like, that's but she's also insane, you know?
And yeah, she is insane. In a good way.
Well, that's why I had my my, my, my thing where I was like,
dude, I've been I woke up like 2 weekend days in a row after my
wife and I was just like, I does not a it's not, it's not a big
deal or anything, but it's not a great feeling.
It's like what the fuck is I need to like read?
I can't win that one. My wife wakes up at like 5:30
every morning. Well, damn.
Yeah, yeah. I'll never win if I win.
And then The thing is like she goes to bed very early too.
She's very like early to bed, early to rise.
But like, it'll be like, I'm telling you, like I'm pretty
sure most women are like this, like where they'll, if they get
like 7 hours of sleep, they'll just be like, I just never felt
like I fell asleep. Like I just never like and I'm
always just like dude, I had like 4 beers last night.
Fucking just, I was just like 0 hesitation, just like you know,
for seven hours woke up like because like you know the
difference between guy tired and girl tired, Everybody knows the
difference. Guy tired is like don't fucking
talk to me for the first half hour when I wake up.
Just don't fucking say anything. It doesn't matter if you have
the greatest news or the worst news for me, it will be met with
like a wince from you know what I mean?
And I just will, I will operate a little slower and then after
like 1/2 hour the coffee hits you.
Use the restroom, psyllium husk activate you fucking I'm good
I'm ready to go. Girl tired lingers all day and
they do like Mr. Magoo shit. It's like fibromyalgia, dude.
It's yeah, like I wandered into a construction site and almost
got hit by a fucking cat bucket and you're just like, I was so I
was hurt and I was hungry and you're like.
Yeah, it's stacks. It's it's like a multi.
Oh yeah, you I. No, they're all like this.
They're all everything is. They're all like, and I must be
women. There might be some like
esoteric health women. They're like, well, I fast every
day and I'm like, film it. Film what?
Yeah, let's see that. Let's see how functional you
are. Yeah, yeah.
No, I just because they have to eat every fucking hour, but it's
like literally one bite. They'll be like, they'll be
like, oh. My gosh, it's like hummus.
Yeah, mashed potatoes. Yeah.
Mashed potatoes. Yeah, that one thing of mashed
potatoes, like saved a whole like school of children of
getting run over. Like.
Yeah, like it's just yeah. And you'll they'll say like,
you'll say something. You're like, whoa, whoa.
Like hold on, hold on. Like that doesn't go here.
What do you? And they'll just go, well, I'm
tired. And you're like, OK, let's not
blow up the fucking house. We're yeah, we're, yeah.
It's rough up in Oregon because it's what you don't realize is
we're, you know, between Oregon and California, we're like
halfway to Alaska. So in the summer it's like it
stays light until like 10:00 PM, you know, especially solstice
right now, you know, in June, July.
And so it's, you know, so we're just like getting ready for bed
late 10/30/11 just blasting Disney YouTube or like, or like
Mennonite from Stead YouTube or some shit.
Like that's like our algorithm is basically that like, you
know, some weird religious brand kind of thing, you know, doing.
Yeah. So anyway, so we're our sleep
schedule has not been the best and it's hot, you know the.
Heat, the heat does it every time.
Yeah, we can do it. That's why Oh, man, during like
a cold, like a cold night when it gets dark early.
Yeah. And you just you, you just, you
crack. It doesn't matter.
Like you just completely crash and wake up.
But yeah, it's, it's interesting too, cuz like I, I, I just, I
just laugh because every girl was like thought they were like
letting us in on some secret about about needing a bunch of
sleep and food. And that's why they like
vampires. I think ultimately, what, like
that's the perfect lifestyle for them.
You just kind of invert the day and time.
You sleep all day, which they would love to trust me.
You sleep all day and then at night you could just stay up
watching like true crime with a guy who yearns for you all
night. Yeah, yeah, you.
Probably have a Butler. He's a count.
You don't have to do anything. I think that's the I think
that's why they go so crazy for vampires.
Like not it's not just the Robert Pattinson's and the, you
know, the other guy. There's not, it's not, it's it's
not just that like obviously they they have that like sad
kind of look about them. They love a sad yearning guy for
sure. But I think it's the sleep
schedule. It's the sleep.
It's funny, and you know our dynamic, you know me, I've
watched the Twilight movies a couple times.
And what's funny about that is that it's like the vampires
don't sleep. Pattinson doesn't sleep.
So she, and before she turns into a vampire, spoiler alert,
she turns into a vampire. And but it's so she'll like
crash and Pattinson will be like, she'll be like, don't you,
you don't need to sleep, right? And he's like, no, I'm just
going to chill and like, stare at you all night.
And that's like his. So he's literally, yeah, he's
just like. And then even in the middle of
the night before they're like, together, he like, sneaks into
her, her house and stares at her, which, you know, don't try
that guys, 'cause like they. Robert Pattinson pulls it off in
Twilight movie. But I guarantee if you try that,
they don't actually really like that.
So that's a lie. That's a lie they don't like
being. Yeah, but it's funny.
Yeah. It's like I'm just gonna like.
Did you try that? Sounds like you did.
That's the OK. All right.
No, I didn't. Yeah.
How do you know then? How do you know?
I, I I. I don't actually.
I am assuming you're gonna. Have to try it.
Yeah, I was, it was interesting. I was watching.
I've been going through a lot of the Wes Anderson movies because
I've always been a huge defender of Wes Anderson.
And when when you, when you hear about, when you hear about
everybody talks the big thing about them.
They think he just makes like like Travelocity gnome
commercials, movies basically. That's like what they think he
does or, or like Old Spice, like random like set pieces moving
around, kind of tacky looking. They like they think that's like
all his movies are. But a lot of his movies are like
really emotionally like they connect you emotionally.
Like especially as you as you get a little bit older, you're
like, this isn't just, you know, especially when you add Owen
Wilson, who is, in my opinion, the right way to do a sensitive
man in in in comedy. Like right now you, you have
everybody's like a sensitive guy, even guys like there's the
movie. Yeah, I don't know, somebody's
told me to watch that movie about the guy who fucking is
like, he's kind of like a offshoot superhero.
And it, it's played by Jack Quaid where he like, can't feel
pain and like he like someone sticks his hand in the deep
fryer and he goes whip. But he's like a nerd and he's
just like, that's kind of like everybody is a sensitive man
now. But like, Owen Wilson would do
it really well because he had the bad qualities of like a
sensitive person where he'd be domineering, kind of trying to
plan every part of every person's day, getting mad when
people aren't having fun during the thing they planned.
You know, he has like a lot of these characters in the West
Anderson movies. And I think that's most
exemplified in The Darjeeling Limited, which I think is among
West Anderson's best. People hate it, I think.
I think it's one of those things where people think it's racist
for some reason. It's not at all.
Like, even if it was, I wouldn't care.
But it's not. It's Bros hanging out in India
and they like, I think it's like some kind of sex.
No, it's not even sex tourism. The reason people don't like it,
I think it's just like so much guys in India and they're like
kind of using India to grow, but like, these are impoverished
people. I'm like, that's not even the
point. Literally that's the joke of the
movie is that is not none of them.
None of that is needed. They go to India to try to find
their mom and stuff. And their mom sucked and ran
away to become a nun because he thought her kids would never
find her. So it's just.
And then ditches them there in. Ditches them there too.
Yeah, like literally. Just like yeah, like leaves a
note. After it's revealed that the
Owen Wilson character and her are exactly the same, basically,
they both try to plan, you're going to have this, I'm going to
have this. And I, I, you know, I, I just
think it's, I really like, I really like his movies a lot.
And I think I haven't seen the new 1 yet and I will for sure.
I I just haven't had a chance to go see it in the theaters yet,
but I, I think Owen Wilson, he worked with a lot of West, I
think he was college roommates at Texas, at University of Texas
with West Anderson. I could have that wrong.
I thought they were college roommates together, might have
been Luke Wilson. I can't remember.
But they, Wilson used to do a lot of writing with them and
stuff. And like Royal Tenenbaums, a lot
of the big ones are great. And Nolan Wilson has a new show
out which I'm perplexed by in a fascinating way.
It's called Stick. And he's a former, he's a former
golfer. And it's definitely like home
from work, bad day. We have 90 minutes to watch 3
episodes before bedtime. Wife slop.
That's like what it is. Oh yeah.
And so on any what you're saying, anybody who's married
understands how elite it is to have something good to watch
during that time. So it where it functions as
that. But it's kind of odd because the
premise is, is that his name is Price Something Pryce.
It's a former golfer. He spazzed out on a golf course.
That's all we know. He spazzed out on a golf course
and got blacklisted. Happy Gilmore.
He fucking yeah very happy. Gilmore very similar.
However, it's Happy Gilmore by proxy is what this movie is
because he finds a young Latino kid who is impoverished I guess
and is but can crush the ball. It like has makes like shotgun
noises. I didn't see that, that clip
where he's like, he's hitting every target on the range and
they're like get the fuck out of here.
And he's Owen Wilson's like, why?
He's raw as fuck. You know he's.
Yeah, yeah, I know. It's funny so though.
But it's funny because the first episode goes by where it's the
mom. This is on Apple, by the way.
I don't think all the episodes are released yet.
That's why I'm a little fascinated by what this show
actually is because it commits a lot of the like modern day 2025,
like wokeness things like, but it's weird the utility like then
the the unlike ability, like I think overall unlike ability of
the woke characters in here. I'm almost thinking like, is
this show doing something that I'm thinking is a little
different? So the reason I say this is
because his mom, he has a kind of a overprotective Mexican mom,
single mom. And the mom is like, do you need
to give me $100,000 to take my son from me and me, I will quit
my job. She works at a fucking party
supply store and she's like, I can't quit that job.
Yeah, you can. And your son's, your son's
hitting fucking 400 yard drives like clearing stuff like black.
Tees just tiger Tees. Why don't?
We just go ahead and quit that job.
But like the whole time Owen Wilson, who is like a fuck up
and he's like his, he his he basically lives in the old house
from his marriage and they and his wife finally convinced
ex-wife finally convinced him after seven years to like move
out of the house. They can sell it and she's like,
I'll give you this amount of money, right.
That's kind of the set up. But everything that Owen
Wilson's character does has kind of a reasonable excuse to it.
So he's not this unlikable white man in a show like where it's
like actually the the magical tortilla family is going to
really inspire him. It's completely the opposite.
They suck like the entire and then there's like this, they
them girl that they introduce and she's awful and it's like
laughably awful. Everything's late stage
capitalism. It's to the point where it's
like you write this in earnest. You would never get the show
done. Like if it's if the director or
writer actually felt this way, like they obviously are
lampooning these people and it's like it's kind of interesting.
I'm trying to I'm people can give it a watch.
It's like I said, it's not the greatest show.
It's very good after work. I'll watch it.
I need to fire up my let's let's get Apple out of a three month
free trial for Apple TV again to watch that one show I want,
which is the classic move for me.
Yeah, yeah. I love Owen Wilson.
I love Darjeeling, dude. I yeah, I feel the Wes Anderson.
It's like that base thing where you have to pretend to not like
something because it's like, because like I'm thinking of
like like a specific, like a specific member of my family
likes Wes Anderson a lot. And she's like the opposite of
RC, you know, Right, right, right.
Not a media family, Not as. Movies are pretty.
They're and I'm like, funny. Yeah, and I'm like, I get where
they're like, oh, like people like that like those movies, you
know, and stuff. So it's just like a very yeah,
movies. Yeah, it's it's a tight one, I
think, as I haven't seen all the Wes Anderson's, but I that is my
favorite 1 and I think it's it's up there also like I want to
travel to India. It's like as everyone knows, I'm
India, bro. So it's like you exactly.
I like I am. Yeah, I'm an amalgam nation of
of. Those Yeah.
Well, what's interesting about Wes Anderson is that people
accuse him of making the same movie over and over again, which
to a degree is true. Now, this is not a band that I
like, but ACDC does that and they have a devout fan base.
Also, does Quentin Tarantino do that?
Not the same degree I think it's.
I think the dialogue is mostly the same in Tarantino movies but
he will aesthetically choose a completely different subject.
And like if you watch Once Upon a Time in Hollywood that's a lot
different than Django you know? Like I it's a lot.
Now granted if you watch Grand Budapest Hotel and Asteroid City
you will know exactly the exact same man made it from the 1st 2
seconds of the movie. Like, so I I get it, but I just
mean like ACDC, there's bands that make the same album over
and over again and people get mad when they don't.
Yeah. So I understand that people can
point to like, maybe when he made more regular looking
movies, he was a little bit better, which I tend to agree.
I think from the late 90s to 2007 when Darjeeling, Darjeeling
was made, that was probably the best.
But I like Grand Budapest Hotel and I liked Asteroid City last
year. I thought I thought those were
good, good movies. They're not.
They're not their best, but it's it's, it's good.
It'd be funny if he legit wants to make a different movie and he
just feels tracked in his own psychosis.
He's like, I can't get he can't escape from his like, yeah, and
also he suffers from that weird because everyone when AI first
came out, everyone's like make The Simpsons like Wes Anderson
move, like make The Sopranos like a Wes.
So he's like, clearly it's people like him because he's
like a cinema guy. He's, I guess, you know, it's
like the cinematography of, you know, which is what, Yeah.
Darjeeling has a lot of Hitchcock train like sequence
looking stuff that look really cool.
Anyways, go on. And it almost like even without
that shit, that movie would rule, you know, just by the
story alone. You know, it's, yeah, it's.
Well, it's not. It's not.
People act like it's like this detachment, like it's in lieu of
like good characters or like good dialogue, good storylines.
Like in Darjeeling, when the Indian kid dies, it
contextualizes the entire trip. And these guys start looking at
each other, like, then nobody admits that they're wrong, but
they're like, we're fucking retards.
Yeah, but you know what I mean? Like, crying about what?
We're crying about two parents that literally want nothing to
do with us, you know? And and we're crying over this,
this dad who it's so sad when the dad, like, he's not even
tearfully crying, but he, like, starts passing out in the water
afterwards. Like, he's like, whoa.
Like, it just, he's able to hit you over the head.
Like, the violence in his movies is so unexpected that it's like,
oh, wait, that's like part. You can do that in the West End.
Like a kid can die, you know, Like, yeah, it's kind of crazy.
Yeah, Indian people will be randomly dying in general, like
just with some shit. Like it's fucked up dude.
It's like all those. Strap bananas to a small boat.
And or the parades like where they're like, let's build the
tallest parade and March it through.
And then Shane goes talks about that dude where it's like they
always crumble and shit and it's just like, God damn.
But yeah, it's a good one. I always, every time I watch
that movie, I always forget that they're just on drugs the entire
time. Now I won't forget because the
last time I'm like, Oh yeah, this is like a drug movie.
I loved it. My wife My wife had never seen
it. I.
Had something like Perkins. Yeah, Perkins.
No. And they're like mixing, like
random taking like shots of like fucking Jade, like John.
Lennon in 1960. 6. Yeah, they're just like, fuck.
Yeah, I know. I really do want Wes to
challenge himself and make a Thomas Pinchin novel.
Like I think I think he he could do it like, like if he kind of
because Thomas Pinchin espionage stuff is very conducive to what
Wes Anderson does. So I think, OK, I think I think
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All right, enough of that. Let's get you back into the
episode. Yeah, it's funny about Indian
people too, is, you know, like when you read old literature or
like, watch old movies, when they talk about like Hindus,
they'll say like the Hindus that was before they were here.
They weren't really here at the moment unless you lived in New
York City and or something. And there would be like merchant
Indian people here. But it wasn't like Bros like we
see now. And there people would talk
about them like these exotic sexual people.
Like they would be like, yeah, the what's what's the, the
Kamasutra? Like all of the Kamasutra.
That's why. And then.
But then Can you imagine now you're just like these Bros?
Yeah. That's yeah.
Like these guys Bob's like that, Yeah, these, I know these guys
fuck like that. Like they they.
They clasp like they intertwine each other's toes like.
Dude on the hands yeah, I mean, I'm saying like dude, a Chad, a
Chad Indian bro is legit scary because you're like damn, they
they like it's it's kind of rare, but it's like damn, it's
when it when it you're like, damn, I'm intimidated by this
Chad yeah, I'm thinking about one dude.
He just. Has a sword?
Yeah, exactly. Why do you have a sword?
We look at Marshalls together. Yeah.
But no, you're absolutely right. And it is kind of, yeah, I think
a lot of that, it's kind of ironic because like that's when
back when, you know, people used to say the Orient or whatever.
You know that. Was kind of very seen as like
very racist or whatever. But now like all this, everyone
knows everyone. There's no like mystery.
Everyone knows each other, you know, and it's especially grew
up in the Bay, like we did, where it's just, you know, and
it's kind of like, yeah, Kamasutra, what the fuck you.
Know pink Hollister polos with jeans and sandals and they're
having and they're having fucking Kamasutra sex.
You're like there's no way that's happening after their
after their like 6:30 PM walk around the block to digest the
meal they start. That's why, that's why they do
that, so they can have fucking Kamasutra sex.
They need to lean, they need to start leaning into that again
because. Yeah.
Because because you ever see like like like red pilled Indian
Bros, all they they just complained like we cannot.
Get a date, yeah. I know that's a whole thing.
My penis is nowhere near a hole at any point like I I can't.
It's like, damn, it's like, come on, man, I I wanna, I'm down to
let, I'm down to let them cross street.
Like come on. They need to, they need to up
their game. I'm down.
Well, especially. Now, because like I've noticed a
like kind of a weird trend in like white male sexuality that's
like eating pussy and like foot fetishes where you're just like
that's fake. Like that.
You dream about that all day. You know, like, like it's not
fake. I think the foot guy thing was
like they're extrapolating like a .02% thing and like, well,
that's me. And it's like, but no guy goes
around and he's like, yeah, I actually like to like choke a
girl while I'm, you know, like stuff like that where you're
like, that's actually the, the biggest thing that you, that's
actually what guys kind of fantasize about when they're
like really perverted and stuff is, is, and I noticed it with
that Zoran Mamdani guy. There was a funny clip thing.
Since he's won the primary, there's been a lot of like
things of like interactions with him and his wife.
They're trying to make them like a thing.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's very forced, but like one of his comments was like a
picture of her and he was like, I know it's Ramadan, but you ate
that on the comment and I was just like, is that like nobody
who's like. Actually an animal.
Nobody who's actually like horny for their wife because like, I'm
sorry, dude, like nobody. We're not going to get into
specifics here, but if you've like been with your lady and
like you're feeling some type of way about her, you'll privately
text her some like straight up Viking rape shit.
Like like when you're trying to get down.
It's not like like if I text my wife, I'd be like, I know we're
on intermittent fasting, but you're eating that outfit right
now. My gosh, like should.
People it sounds sounds like a like a like a gay dude.
It's a gay, Yeah. Come on.
Like, yeah. Which is funny is like, what is
an actual Muslim thing? Cuz you know, like there's
probably a Muslim like who's like a true Muslim maximalist.
Like in the Middle East where he's like New York has a Muslim
mayor now. And then he looks up and he's
like, I know it's Ramadan, but you ate that.
And he's like, oh, what the fuck?
You got a gay one. Yeah.
So. So, yeah, yeah.
He's like we've been duped. I've been, yeah, I've been
obsessed with the dudes that made a bunch of money by calling
his victory on like polymarkets and stuff.
And also someone parlayed because did because we don't, I
don't really want to talk about, I don't really care.
But no, it's not. But but someone parlayed him
getting hit with the prostitution charges but getting
off on the sex trafficking and the other charges.
So like literally. Yes, no, no, hey, was that the
one that was like 57 K? Yeah for like 100 bucks dude,
I'm like oh damn, that's so sick dude, that's that's harder than
any sports bet That's so tight. The problem with polymarkets is
it sounds so leftist, like polymarkets sounds like a
leftist dating app like where it's like polymarkets like
Abolish the Family. But not.
That's not what we mean, but. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't take what we say literally.
But also, if you disagree with anything, you're a fascist.
It's yeah, I know the the leftist thing is so, so funny
with the like, defund the police.
It's not actually what it means. And then they say that and then
they have to say like the next tweet, they're like, actually, I
have to apologize. I actually did mean that I'm
after consideration. I did mean a ball.
But also so they have to watch this like.
What if somebody was just like, I don't like black people?
And then they're like, dude, you can't say that.
And he's like, well, that's not what it means.
Yeah, yeah. You know, like, like.
Obviously that's not what it means.
It's a come on, sexualize. It is a concept what I'm doing
and it's just. Which is kind of what?
Yeah. Which is literally a whole
thing. Yeah.
No, but it's well, that's kind of the whole thing because if
you think like the whole thing is like caught like 2018 grad
school speak, which is like kind of does give you that out of
like being able to not mean what we first of all, being like fake
radical where you literally don't don't have to ever suffer
for right, your thoughts or actions or whatever like that.
You're literally in like some extremely coddled, you know, OK,
and look, I've spent like, you know, I spent a lot of time on
my college campus and left without a degree and I'm like,
this is a like I I've heard that too, but also.
Fuck when you do that, because that's what I did too, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, it's cool. It's cool guys do it, you know,
but it's like, but even me, I like I because I was like it
weirdly, I hated it. But also I felt at home there
and I was kind of even meet when I when I was getting near the
end and I knew I was like, I can't get trapped in a place
like this and like live my adult life in a place like this is
because I see what happens when that when people do that either
get like a job or like a, or they just stay in the fucking
community, even if they're not involved, you know, and it's.
Just like, not the community. Dude.
And so it's, you know what I mean?
Right, Yeah, No, I just kind of know exactly what you mean.
I just don't bring up the job community.
It's just this like, what does that community do for you?
Like the and it's like it's not even a jobs network half the
time because these people grow up to not have jobs half the
time. No, it's something.
It's a secret. Third, third thing or whatever
it is, I don't know. It's definitely.
Yeah, I know. But Speaking of that, I mean
the, the, the Glastonbury thing I think we should talk about.
Yeah, dude, I have a lot of. Yeah, I thought I'd be more mad
about that than you. I mean, I, I understand
completely where everyone's coming.
From it definitely triggered it. It's one of those rare things
that like actually triggered me in a weird way, but I also feel.
It's literally we we used the UK.
I think we invented that guy. I'm pretty sure.
Like I feel like that's like like a guy we made-up like the
Rage Against the Machine guitar fucking shit that's happening.
He. I will say the the backtrack is
does not, doesn't, doesn't not go hard.
It's kind of a tight. Track headlining Glastonbury.
I mean, it's like he has to be kind of tight.
It's like it's like a legit, I mean, I thought the the the
synthetic drum kit is kind of beta the the electronic drum
kit. I'm like come on dude.
Like just get a little. That's very matrix like matrix
still like pick up What rude boy.
What matrix? Yeah, it's like a yeah yeah
matrix. We're not binary now.
One time boy no conform to gender rhythms.
But I just can't do and I'm I say this as someone who like I I
love Mala and digital Mystics like old school dubstep.
Like I actually like the real dubstep.
I might get dubstep hipster before it came to America and
shit. I do like that stuff.
Like reggae? Dub reggae dub, you know, and
that dude, they do kind of look so he is kind of like a like a
dreadlock mix dude in the UK And I, I do fuck with that dude a
lot. But saying that I cannot get
down with that like that grime British accent got like the I
can't do it. And I, I know I, but the thing
with me, first of all, like the, you say you want your country
back, like that song, the famous, the whole thing again,
this is coming on the tail of like the, like the, the rape
brigade and the like, the whole, like the whole, like we're not
going to prosecute people for crime in the UK.
But also if you tweet, you're going to get locked up for like
2 years. So I'm like, yeah, like that it
just doesn't hit anymore. Like, because it's like people
are like, yeah, we actually kind of do want.
We just we don't like what's. Happening.
You're fighting nature, not fascism.
Yeah. And it's kind of like, I don't
think, I don't think it's. Yeah, it's like, and it's at
Glastonbury and everyone's cheering it on, everyone trying
to make it like a race thing. I don't think it really.
I mean, it definitely has intersections of that.
Yeah. But then that wouldn't matter.
It wouldn't matter, yeah. But then the IDF thing, I do
have thoughts on that. I think that's funny that
everyone focused on that. I know.
What do you think about? That that's the worst part is
like this, guys like this guys like we've got to replace you
might, we've got to replace you. You know jobs like South Park.
Fucking illegal. By the way, like white Mom, like
white British, which is like another.
Come on. He's literally, he's literally
like a bloke Kaepernick dude. Like, yes, like he's just, he's
just, he's yeah, he's just the Collins Loker Nicked.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. He's just like one of those
guys, like just just some some sort of like Colin Kaepernick
does sound like a British name, to be honest.
Colin, you know. And so he I'm trying to come up
with an iteration, but it's really not There's you could
just say the same name, but he's just that that guy.
Yeah. The idea it's of course it's
like the IDF thing, because then that that then gives their ideas
credence a little bit like rather than this sort of like
because basically what's happening is he is somebody's
looking into like the fact that where he can't like come to
America or So what did they, I forget what it is like there's
that Department of Homeland Security or whatever is looking
into his comments on the IDF. Not that he was like, hey, I'm
down to like flood, like flood your entire country full of this
and and replace you all the conspiracy theories you talk
about, we're going to make them true.
You know, just it just these, like that's not enough to set
off anything, which I don't even know.
I don't even necessarily want it to.
I'm still kind of a free speech moralist about this.
But I just mean to the fact is like then he's like Jeff to the
IGF, like where he says it like that.
And it's like, and then that's the one they're like, oh, let's
block the stops now. Yeah.
And I think, I think it's fun and we talked about this with
Max Blumenthal. I'm very mixed because I do you
guys know where I stand on this issue?
I'm willing to stick my stick my neck out a little bit on this
and not be based or whatever, you know, but somehow for some
reason, it's like, OK, so I have a couple things because for a
long time, Israel and that whole scene, you would they would say
things like, like criticizing is they would say things like,
like, you know, criticizing Israel's foreign policy is
calling for Jewish extinction with all these crazy like like
non true things like, you know, maybe like you're, you're
literally calling for a very like very identity politics.
Like, of course, kind of it's the irony of it is that it's
very like woke and I you know, So what he did there actually is
kind of interesting because he said no, specifically death to
the IDF, which is the military, the military, the Natalie
Portman Israeli military and which, and this is coming off
the heels of regardless, whatever you think about October
7th or whatever the fuck is going on over there.
Again, our position is mainly, I don't give a shit.
We don't care about what's like, leave it, leave it be.
Like maybe it's sending Infinity dollars over there, but IDF is
literally like sniping children and standing in the aid lines.
And it's like, again, people are scared to be earnest about this
at all. And I'm like, kind of like, I'm
not. I still think it's cringe to do
that at Glastonbury, and I still think the whole thing is kind of
gay. But at the same time, everyone's
latching on the IDF thing and I'm like, what?
What's worse? I don't know.
I don't care about him chanting that at concert.
I care more about the sniping part.
For me. That's just me, you know I.
Care about a guy who's just like actually I hate you for what you
are average British citizen who thinks that grew me.
Yeah. Well, that, that's the thing
about this whole thing is like, there is like there is this and
this has been happening for years with like conscious rap
and everything. There are you guys should be
into like Black Star or something.
And most stuff would just, you know, would basically say things
in a way where he's like, all white people are complicit in in
this. And there will be a white guy
because I'm sorry, white people buy the Black Star albums and
they would buy it and they'd go like, yeah, man, I totally agree
with you. And then some, like a most def
type would go, yeah, especially the white liberal that thinks
he's my friend. And the guy's like, yeah.
Totally. And it's like so it's.
Like it's you, it's you. He hates you like he hates
'cause you hate The whole concept is there is a dominance
thing that's happening with this, this kind of sad, like I'm
sad about my position in life. Therefore I will let somebody
yell at me under with a cool beat in the background, which
again, I've been there. It happens.
No, no, well, it's interesting. It's I don't think we ever like
felt We both of us never fell for that kind of thing.
It's one of the reasons why I like Jay Dole cuz he he owned
his blackness or whatever and but he he didn't and he was, you
know, he wasn't and he did, he wasn't that scene that like most
of Talib Kwali common kind of thing, but he never he he also
kind of was like, I think he knew he's like all my shows are
just straight white Bros, especially in like 2004, you
know, I was like, come on, dude. And it's like, and I think so I
think he he knew that and yeah, it's interesting.
It's it's a very interesting dynamic in America with the hip
hop thing. And I, I just like, I think
that's why like people end up gravitating towards non
conscious rap because they don't want, they don't want to be part
of that thing. It's like in order to be
conscious rap, you it's you're get pigeonholed into this whole
like political thing where you have all the same takes as like,
yeah, like a like a 2017 Columbia grad student or
whatever. And then it ends up being kind
of fucking gay. And it's a reverse element is
where I guarantee you at like Columbia University, you can
have like Black Star in sociology class or something, or
like NYU or something where it's like that then gets into those
and it's like this kind of patronage element with these
things. And like I said, the whole thing
feels a little bit fake. But I do think it's funny that
people can straight up go out there and just say like, yeah,
replacement theory. It's not real.
But if it does happen, you guys deserved it.
Therefore we can like, because, you know, the UK is, is like the
wildest place right now in my opinion.
It's wild because right now you have, like you said, you have, I
think they passed some crazy abortion law that's like almost
to birth. I could be wrong there.
They're like floating that idea. Like floating the post birth
idea. I don't know, I.
Is that like a? Is that like a bait?
Is that bait? I shouldn't.
Even brought it up because I don't know, but there's, I know
there was fighting over some sort of abortion thing that was
like, I don't like either side of that, you know, and but but
then there was the then you have like people like, like this,
this Glastonbury guy, Bob Villain.
You have, you have Bob, Bob Villain's red pill, Bob Pylon.
Yeah, yeah, Bob's red villain that'd be sick.
And then they're but they you have guys like him who as
annoying and cringe as it is like that does get a certain
like I will say like when you when you get past a certain age,
you realize that when you get into things like that, the Bob
Dylan death to everything. Chaos, chaos, chaos.
Yeah, allies. I'm your ally.
I'm your ally, even though you've said that there's no such
thing as an ally and you hate me.
Like, yeah, you're you're usually at your dumbest part in
your life when you like stuff like that.
Like I just, I mean that with love too.
Like it's like the problem is when you're like 37 and that
shit still sounds good to you. Like do something about it cuz
it's this is not the way to look at the world.
Like when you're when, especially if you're.
Especially if you're making if you're making 160K at a tech
job, one more like then don't use that to like camouflage your
your like you're you're the man at that point.
Sorry dude, It's like a no hate, like just own it, you know?
Just fucking own. It and then you have so you have
Bob Villain, you have British stuff, you have the grooming
gangs things, you have all all this stuff.
And then, you know, meanwhile you have like Lily Phillips, you
know what I mean? Like like, that's not even that
crazy to me, but like the whole time, like people will go like,
oh, I'm having a wank to Lily Phillips new video and listening
to Bob villain. Like like he sounds like it's
like the Clockwork Orange guy. You can make another Clockwork
Orange. If you you could actually remake
Clockwork Orange right now and have it covering all of these,
kind of like this British kind of hellscape thing, like you
could absolutely remake that's. Fucking weird.
I think it's part yeah, the the whole thing is crazy.
I first of all, I do not think the the whole the grooming gang
thing was never that. That shit was never resolved to
my satisfaction. Dude, I'm sorry, dude, it's
like, no. We moved on from that quick.
That that weird. Was it a Netflix show?
That Netflix show? You watched it?
I didn't, but everyone. Oh.
Adolescence. Yeah, yeah, we did an episode on
our premium fever at candy.substack.com where I
talked about the entire thing. And yeah, dude, and it's like,
come on, like that. That is so shame.
Like leveraging societal British politeness to not be mad at the
rappers. And oh, and by the way, if
anyone questions that, we're just going to bring up Jimmy
Savile because like one guy in power did that who's like no one
defends by the way, no one, no one defends Jimmy Savile.
But it's like, yeah, I fuck it. Yeah, it's weird.
It's like, I don't know, that's a weird one.
And you guys know what I'm talking.
Like literally like can't worry about the grooming gangs because
of Jimmy Savile. I'm like, that's a hot take.
You know, that's AI think I'm willing to bet more people are
they're both evil and more people are concerned about the
former than the latter, right. And but yeah, but and I had a
whole bit I wanted to do a bit on Twitter.
I didn't have Dune, probably for the best.
I was like, Oh yeah, Bob villain you're you're P's favorite band,
right. He he said they're really
reifying the Britain Britain's music scene and.
Yeah, he's really inspired by him.
Yeah, I do think of him whenever this weird British shit happens
a little. Like, yeah, poor guy.
Or Nanny state. Yeah, all these all are.
No, there will be. Trust me, guys.
When there's an exodus from the UK, you guys will be the good
ones, don't worry. We're having a say.
We're do like Harriet Tubman for like like braced British.
People or something we're gonna like.
Yeah. Under the floorboards.
Exactly. Yeah.
We'll bring you into Atlantis in a submarine.
Yeah, wherever that is. But yeah, that's.
I know, I know. I just think I'll come to your
town with a booming gang. Yeah, no, it's like.
I know, dude. It's like, yeah, I there's a
Drake song. Like you have to address it like
if, if you're, if you're like, if you're a proponent of that or
or anything, you have to be like, yo, we need to like fix
that part of it, but let's have a discussion.
But you can't, dude. So it's ends up being this
total. What's the Drake part?
Sorry I. Fucking no.
There's just this Drake song with a grime rapper that's like
that. And it's like Drake's verse is
sick, the beat is sick. It's very like new new, kind of
like new style rap, but it's good.
And then he comes on and he's like your pussy's disgusting.
It's gross. Oh, I just like, I don't know
what he's saying, but it's like it does not rap and he's like,
he's like being like this. It's this guy.
And he's like got like a Cisco like bleached hair.
And I'm just like, this is really that's a very Canadian
move by Drake, by the way, is to reach out to a grime rapper.
It's like that's just that's just we know that is something
that that is that never needed to be important or.
I like when those guys, like some of those guys are funny
when they're hella stupid like DB and Mac Dre or whatever.
When they're like literally they're not trying to be
anything. They're just like being like a,
you know, I like, I like that. But yeah, the second it gets to
yeah, like to like Reddit and weird I'm I'm out.
I I, I, yeah, I don't want any of it exact like it's but yeah,
like I just this whole like, man, I I was thinking about the
federal land thing too, like about.
How selling, selling off the land, and how deeply.
Popular, that is like the idea that I don't know anybody.
Like, I literally don't know anybody who thinks that's a good
idea. Like, no, I like Democrat or
Republican, like, because even Republicans are like, yeah, I
like going to the fucking hike in the park, dude.
It's nice, you know? And so I guess there's like some
federal land. I know it's not like I don't
know if some of it's parks or not or, or anything, but there's
just like a lot of federal land sitting out there.
But like I said, the SIM City brained person sees land and
it's free real estate to them. So it's like nothing is sacred.
I I feel like both sides kind of don't like nature, if you
realize it. Like like like leftists are like
fuck nature. Like plants are not important
and more important than like homeless people, which I'll
debate you on that and which branch.
Yeah, and, and just name a plant.
Yeah, name a plant. We'll, we'll talk. 10.
I don't like no, there's some that I don't like.
I agree. It's just, I mean, it's just,
but they, you know, all that. And then the right has like, you
know, I know I, I ran push. It was a big thing in like the
Iran generation and like libertarians.
I think Michael Crichton agrees with it too, to a degree.
I think he likes nature a little bit more.
But it's kind of like, man needs to conquer it or else it will be
conquered by it. And I'm always just like, man, I
don't really think there's a demand for this federal land
shit to be bought up. Like when I thought the whole
idea was we were trying to do mass deportations, like do all
these things and kind of like get a set number of what we're
working with. Yeah.
Before we start. Start selling off shit for what
too? For what?
Amazon. Amazon.
Is that what we're selling it? To tell me, tell me what plots
land, who it's going to, who gets first dibs again, I would.
I would rather I would legit. I don't care if I would.
I would legit that land be divvied up and socialized to the
American citizen, then be sold to like an Amazon warehouse.
And I'm not even an Amazon hater.
I'm like, Jeff Bezos deserves as many billions as as many fucking
as much top as you can get, because my shit comes the next
day. Like I he's the coolest billion.
I'm sorry I fuck with Bezos a little bit.
He's he's a cool billionaire. But that being said, I'm like,
yeah, like, I don't know, like, you know, it's just going to go
to some dumb shit, dude. Like it's it's going to go to
some like Tesla battery factory or something.
That's all it is, fulfillment, some fulfillment thing which I
know you just champion. You just championed the
fulfillment center and the fulfillment.
Yeah, I think he's doing fine. He's doing fine enough as it is.
Like I think we can, you know what I mean?
He's like we we don't need to give him more space.
But I I fuck with it, you know? I know I don't have a coherent
take on that. And don't you know the left,
right? Well, we all use it every,
Literally everybody uses it. That's the that's the thing.
By the way, they're, they're trying to steal $100 from me.
I bought this like fucking I like 3 months ago I had this.
They're like buy these items in the next 12 hours and we'll
credit you with 100 Amazon dollars like within a month.
And so I, it was cat food. It was literally 3 cat food
items totalling 60 bucks. We need it anyway.
I'm like, hey, I'll do it. And then that was like 3 months
ago and I realized they never gave me the 100 bucks.
So I, I had to do the chat with like, yeah, hell.
Yeah, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like.
And then I Darjeeling the. Darjeeling chat yeah, I think we
got it figured out, but yeah, I had to call but so hopefully
we're getting that 100 and I can buy more cat.
Food with it. But yeah, well, I just think
about like this, this I, I mean that is the that is that is a
dilemma. That is a dilemma because I was
just thinking about, because I was just at Muir Woods recently
for this like federal land stuff.
And I thought what was interesting is like the, the
Muir Woods originally was like this.
You know, when, when our, our guys kind of took over
California, they, they, it was William Kent and John Muir were
kind of the two guys that like they were in the conservation
movement or something. And there's, they got in like a
massive disagreement over like what it was supposed to be.
And it was all, you know, water related Hetch Hetchy Valley,
like all, all the like kind of a boring history on it.
But like, I forget which one of them was, I think it might have
been John Muir after a while was kind of like, hey, let's let's
not open this to the public. And it's like, well, that's gay,
OK? Like, like, you're just going to
have all these trees that no one can go see.
Yeah. Like, you're going to like, just
keep that off. And he's like, yeah, it's
conservation. It's like, dude, there's like 80
people here right now. Like in the in.
No, it's. Like that's so dumb.
And then it's like, of course it's like, you know, you picture
John, you're well, what are you guys going to name it?
Yeah, fucking near woods, dude. Like you shut up now, you stop
being gay about your trees and and take.
Some more pictures dude. Yeah, it's fucking beautiful.
It's beautiful. And I just like there's a I'm
down for that. I'm down for, we're not building
anything here, but you can walk through.
We'll put pathways in. Yeah.
Maybe a rare salamander gets compromised.
Sorry. Doesn't mean we have to slow
down for three years. Yeah.
Before you identify bureaucratically if we
obstructed a salamander, Yeah, Like I have always hated that.
California does really gay stuff like that.
Yeah, right. Where they're like, oh, you want
to take down that tree that's probably going to fall down this
winter on your house? Well, we're going to send out
people to go see what kind of birds are in that tree.
Literally like every every 2000 sitcom has an episode where
they're there's some rare animal that gets hit or like, yeah,
show. Yeah.
And you're like, oh, well, cool. Sounds good.
Like maybe next week you guys could come by.
They're like, we're thinking next year.
Yeah. And yeah.
And you're like, well, I need this now.
It's going to fall in my house. They go well and and then it
just becomes this bureaucratic nightmare about that stuff.
But I it's annoying. It's one of those things it's
kind of like we were talking about last time, how we, how
like with the sharing thing and socialism and communism, where
it's like, I do want, we need to, I guess size #1 my number
one thing is like, we need to raise our consciousness first.
And also leftist, stop falling for the most easily debunked
psyops before I trust you on anything.
And you know, and it's like, like literally like I, I can't,
OK, you fell for Pfizer. How am I going to trust you on
Land Management or like water rights and shit?
You know, it's like, you might be right about that shit, but
like, you know, clean up your, you know, clean up your, your
mechanics and fundamentals. And like I also, I also think
like, and I do agree, I think like, you know, timber is fine.
It can be renewable resource and all that stuff.
Like we need to, we need to shore up our building.
Like I don't want like weird plastic office buildings just
put in where parks are. And so that'd be gay.
You know, I think we can merge, we can do a better job merging
with the environment all over in cities, although I think cities
are on their way out and in suburbs and stuff like that, you
know, and so I think there's like a good mix.
But yeah, I just don't, it's that top down approach, you
know, it's that who makes the real decisions, who benefits,
you know who, you know, it's like, it's like the immigration
thing with like the Haitian, you know, there's like, there's like
Dem governors and property managers making a killing off
like crazy ass incentives and like rebates for apartments
where, you know, it's like, yeah, we'll give you 4500 a
month to have like import 20,000 people.
So that's like it's like instant millionaire set.
It's I was thinking about like with COVID, the vaccine, like,
like I'm not a big like every leftist always freak out about
like billionaires or whatever, right?
I'm not like a big billionaire guy.
I don't think you are either like freaking out about that.
At the same time, the COVID vaccine, 40 new billionaires
were created from the COVID vaccine.
I'm like, that's gay. That's kind of gay, yeah.
They have, they have in their mind they can just go, well, we
would just socialize it and the government would get all that
money. That's stupid thing and.
Also not gonna happen like that's not on the table right
now. So, like you guys already, you
guys already codified how strong they were.
Like, you know what I mean? These these people, like the
system it is. They were the strongest foot
soldiers for this, hoping that it one did the long game with
hoping that it's nationalized. But no, the whole idea, the
whole idea was that it's not. You know, that was put like
that. That's so again, you're you're
trying to you're trying to create like ethical compromises
with people who don't view the world in like the most
distorted, weird, hyper reality way that like, I don't know,
man. It just doesn't, it doesn't
check out to me like where it's just like it's just it's looking
at like, what should my take be? What should should I be mad at
the Glastonbury guy? No, that probably means I'm
racist. If I am, you know, I just like
this kind of thing. Like if you're still looking at
the world that way, I'm going to do my own thing and I don't.
I'm pretty black pilled on any sort of collectivism for that.
That's fair. That's totally fair.
Like I don't, I don't know how you could argue again, like, you
know, I don't know, you have to kind of have some blinders on
to. No, you have to force it.
That's in their mind. In that mind, they have to
force. They force the collective.
Yeah, that's how all of these things happen.
Is that it's not like what you're saying.
Well, what we've done to install this new government that
socializes everything and gives people exactly what they need.
What we've done is basically gotten rid of all the enemies
and done this for the people who will agree with us.
Even if they don't agree, they will never vocalize that.
And we don't have free speech, not anything like that.
That's how you do it. Yeah.
And so that's the problem is like what you're suggesting.
And I'm not saying it's wrong. I just mean what you're
suggesting is on nobody's plate right now.
Like, yeah, for for a ruler, as a ruler.
In fact, I don't think it's advantageous.
Anyone that wants the power. And it's interesting, it's
interesting paradox that we have more power than ever to affect
local stuff and connect locally and and making changes powerful
stuff that actually matters, you know, like regardless of
politics, like like Thomas Massey stuff kind of you know,
or whatever. Oh, careful.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
But we're also hyper fucking globalized and folk at current
thing, you know, so where it's like literally we have to have a
take on the Glastonbury thing and the Palestine thing, which
is a 14,000 miles away and shit, you know, it's just so tiresome.
You know, it's just so like, yeah.
And at some point you do kind of have, you know, like maybe it is
fine. It's fine to have takes on that
stuff. But I mean, it's, it's all that
people do now and we're all guilty of it and it's so fucking
annoying. I.
Know yeah, I know. And it's not a it's not, it's,
it's kind of an interesting hamster wheel thing where it's
like, we're all on it. I mean, what, what difference
does it make when you're. I mean, it's even more of a
horror, right, when the hamster realizes what the hamster wheel
is. Yeah.
Like when you actually understand what it is and still
continue to do it. That's when you get the paradox,
when you start a podcast surrounded by amethyst crystals.
But you know, it's just, it's just one of the like that it's
better when you're just like, Nah, fuck that.
This isn't a wheel. It's going to keep going.
Like, we're eventually I will. No, maybe not, but whatever.
I'm just going to keep going because what else am I going to
do? And that's kind of what a lot of
people end up doing as they get older, which you can't really,
you can't really blame it. But it's funny because like
there aren't really any like chill people.
Like you'll see these people that have claimed to have
ascended beyond ideology or like, like what ideal idealism,
right? Like what?
Which is what they would call what what you have said, what
I've said is like idealism. They people say, well, you, you
grow out of that after a while. And I'm always like, yeah, but
people are still so on edge, even though they've claimed to
have grown out of that. They still follow every aspect
of what's going on. They, you know, like I'm like,
I, I don't know if that's happening though.
I think you just kind of like, yeah, I guess what they're
saying is just pick a side and, and wave the foam finger, which
again, there's, there's benefits to that.
And I, I definitely have in the past, but there's a lot of times
where it's like, OK, like at the end of the day, we're just, this
is a, a vent. This is something to get you
through, you know, 90 minutes of your work day and kind of go.
I don't agree with that. I disagree actually.
Yeah, that's kind of what it's supposed to be.
And I don't know what the end game is.
I don't know what the end game is of in terms of like if what
we're saying is going to resonate with millions of
people. I have no idea.
It's not like necessarily what we're doing here, but I do know.
I just don't like what I see. Like I don't.
I'll talk to people who have no idea what the Glastonbury is
thing is, but they're freaking out about Love Island in the
same way that you would freak out about the Glastonbury thing
where you're like, wow, that emotion that seems to be in
everybody. It's like this detached emotion
where what's in front of you doesn't matter, but what's on
your phone has this hyper premium, which I can definitely
say I've fallen into before currently kind of at at at
times. That's the stuff I kind of want
to. I hope we can get out of I I, I
maybe that maybe that you can black go over that too.
But I I have to at least hold out a little hope that, like,
people can just become like, OK, what's in front of me right now?
Yeah. How's that doing?
Yeah. You know, like that's kind of
what I want. Like what I want, you know,
despite not practicing it the best.
Yeah. Yeah, so.
Great point. Last thing today, the oh by the
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No idea. But all right, I have one clip
that I'd like to, I'd like to play.
Let me see actually. Did you want your country back?
No, bro. Like what?
What happened here? I know, I just, I it's just.
How funny it is. Well, there's that Peter Teal
clip that's going around. I kind of wanted to talk about
this because. We take money from, by the way.
Yes, our employer, yeah, Peter, like he was on Ross do do do
that. Is that how you say his name?
Ross do that. I've seen his name everywhere.
I don't know how you say it, but he's on one of those things
where he's on one of those programs where you like, like
these guys are, what am I trying to say here?
These guys are like, I don't fall for this type of stuff.
This these like the intellectual.
I had an intellectual sit down with Peter Thiel.
I think this guy's for the New York Times actually.
And he interviews kind of people like Lomez and people like that.
He's like kind of brought them up to the New York Times, some
could say, to expose them. Yeah, it's kind of like that,
like a little passive aggressive, kind of like.
But also you are signal boosting somebody to like people who go,
oh shit, you know, like so like you let the chips fall where
they may. You can frame it any way you
want, but some people might say like, oh, wow, that's actually
that's kind of interesting. So I wanted to share this video
file. It's a, it's kind of a long
clip, but it's Peter Thiel talking about AI here.
Yeah. You're a skeptic of the what you
might call the sort of super intelligence cascade theory,
which basically says that if AI succeeds, it gets so smart that
it gives us the progress in the world of atoms, that it's like,
all right, we can't cure dementia.
We can't, you know, figure out how to build the perfect factory
that builds the Rockets that go to Mars, but the AI can and, and
at a certain point, it just, you pass a certain threshold and it
gives us not just more digital progress, but 64 other forms of
progress. It sounds like you don't believe
that, or you think that's less likely.
Yeah, I, I, I somehow don't know if that's been really the gating
factor. What does that mean?
The gating factor, that's. Probably a Silicon Valley
ideology and maybe maybe in a weird way it's more liberal than
a conservative thing, but people are really fixated on IQ in
Silicon Valley and, and that it's all about smart people.
And if you have more smart people, they will, they'll do,
do, do great things. And, and then the, the economics
anti IQ argument is that people actually do worse.
The smarter they are, the worse they do.
And they, you know, it's, it's, it's just they don't know how to
apply it or our society doesn't know what to do with them and
they don't fit in. And so that suggests that the
gating factor isn't IQ, but something, you know, that's
deeply wrong with our society. So is that is.
That a limit on intelligence or a problem of the sort of
personality types will this human super intelligence create.
I mean, I, I'm, I'm very sympathetic to the idea and I
made this case when I did an episode of this of this podcast
with a sort of AI acceleration. Is that just throwing that
certain problems can just be solved if you ramp up
intelligence? It's like we ramp up
intelligence and boom, Alzheimer's is solved.
We ramp up intelligence and the AI can, you know, figure out the
automation process that builds you a billion robots overnight.
I I'm an intelligent skeptic in the sense I don't think I think
you probably have limits. It's it's it's hard to prove
when we're it's always hard to prove these things.
But I. Until we have.
The simple intelligence. I share your intuition because I
think we've had a lot of smart people and things have been
stuck for other reasons. And so maybe maybe the problems
are unsolvable, which is the pessimistic view.
Maybe there is no cure for dementia at all and it's a
deeply unsolvable problem. There's no cure for mortality.
It's maybe it's an unsolvable problem or maybe it's these
cultural things. So it's not, you know, it's not
the individually smart person, but it's how this fits into our
society. Do we tolerate heterodox smart
people? Maybe it's, maybe you need
heterodox smart people to, you know, do do crazy experiments
and, and, and if the, you know, if the AI is just conventionally
smart, if it's sort of, if we define wokeness, again, wokeness
is too ideological. But if you just define it as
conformist, maybe that's not the kind of smartness that's going
to make a difference. So.
What do you what do you think about teal in general, I guess,
And then what he was saying there.
Yeah, I think first of all, I never, I never like seek out his
interviews or whatever. I've probably listened to three
or four in the last three or four years, but I'm always kind
of like interested and at least like, OK, this dude's smart and
he can carry a conversation, you know, And I think, I don't know,
I definitely, I kind of agree. I think there's some cultural
stuff going on, like talking about Alzheimer's, you know,
it's fucking aluminum in the brain and we're not allowed.
To talk about is AI going to get to that conclusion ever like.
Like my take, I've always had this take actually for a long
time. And actually Alexander Ross
Marinos is who's someone who I generally like his takes and
shout out he, he's at we've, we've dialogue on Twitter a
little bit before about this where he's, we kind of have the
same thing where it's like there's two kinds of AI.
There's the LLM that's programmed from all the input
data that will never say vaccines are unsafe, even if you
show them like logically step by step, but aluminum logic in the
brain And this it'll always default to like, Nope, it's
scientists of determined blah, blah.
And then there's using AI, which is the kind I like, which is the
kind I actually respect, where you're using AI, which is just
math to crunch billions of parameters of data over and over
again to get results that human eyes cannot see that are in fact
real, right? Where you can, you can design a
drone with a specific shape that a human would never come up
with, but it is aerodynamically very efficient, right?
Or something like that, or finding like a trading pattern
or finding like, you know, all sorts of stuff, right?
And it is overused and it, it always has to do with the inputs
for sure. But AI is real and there's a
real thing that AI can discover. And I, I think I don't, you
know, I know we a lot of our listeners are probably like not
long on AI because they. Probably attach I would say.
It is, yeah. And it's they, well, they attach
it to the cultural thing, the whole like LLM thing and ChatGPT
and Sam Altman and all the weirdos and everything like
that. Even though that stuff I think
is pretty impressive. Like LLMS honestly.
But. What?
You know ChatGPT and Claude and you know the chat bots, right?
Basically not chat bots, but I'm talking like actually doing the
dat. So anyway, so there's like
there's like the censored fake, you know, like quote UN quote
Lib AI, right? You could say that's like.
That's called gay guy. Yeah.
Gay. Yeah.
And there's, and then there's like the actual tool AI machine
learning, which like can crunch numbers and shit.
So my hope there's going to be a big battle in the it's already
happening and it's going to keep getting bigger in the future
where it's it'll be a battle between the things we learned
from the, the the data AI, which is like, oh, AI is actually
showing us that aluminum is the is the smoking gun in.
Alzheimer's and so it can get to that, you think?
It can, but then the humans will interpret the it'll always go
back to the humans interpreting the results and it'll always be
like, Oh, wait, are we going to let pharma die?
Because the AI now I now the, the proponents of now the like
the, the, the, the boosters, like the, it's funny because a
lot of the boosts like the AI boosters, the people boosting
AI, most of them are like pro vax and they're not, although
that's maybe starting to change. You know, like honestly, like
Brian Johnson critiques the COVID vaccine, Alexander Marinos
literally as an AI startup guy and he critiques, he's like one
of the biggest voices against like Pfizer and Moderna and
shit. So that is starting to change as
based smart people in the AI space.
It's that's like an OK thing to think.
But again, yeah, it's, I think it'll so it's the question of
whether we we trust the data that it reveals or we put up
more and more curtains and doing that thing.
I think teal is, is, I think he knows.
I think he knows it's going to reveal some.
So I think that's the cultural element he talks about.
Yeah. And I, I think that's what he's
getting at. I think the New York Times, bro,
kind of like a more of a midwit. Nothing against them, nothing
like, you know, I, I think the pure teal, even if he's evil
guy, I think he's smarter than the New York Times guy
interviewing him, even though that guy brings up good points.
Yeah, he's not bad. He's not.
That guy's not bad for New York Times.
No, but I think the New York Times guy thinks AI is going to
be able to solve Alzheimer's, and he means like a new drug or
a new compound. Or something like that.
Give you the soda spit out at four.
You're saying it's we found the cause.
It's this, this is AI. Can you please develop a
Alzheimer's in his mind? Probably vaccine.
Exactly, because the thing that we cannot accept is that there
are people curing Alzheimer's and autism now by doing based
naturopathic shit, but that's not an AI thing.
That's like, oh, oh, can't do that.
You know which by the way, it's like all you have to do is drink
silica water. Like literally just drink that
every day of your life. You'll have you'll have an
aluminum free brain because it'll just.
What about psyllium Water does that?
That's that'll take you to dimensions that we're not hit
her too prepared for. I gotcha.
Yeah, yes, we should, yeah.
By the way, that's diatomace dessert.
That's literally, that's the, that's the diatomace dessert.
It's literally just take scoop of that every day.
You'll probably have, it's not aluminum every day.
But yeah, I think, I think again, I'm just, I don't trust
the IQ people. I don't trust the smart people.
Because again, like if, if that rule LED you here, what uses the
rule, you know, And it's like we need what it'll do is it'll
expose all it'll do is it expose the the, and I again, I think, I
do think we need smart people. I think we need high IQ.
I'm not saying it's not valuable at all, but all it'll do is
focusing on that will just show the lack in the in the blind
spots of the IQ. Right.
And that's the highest IQ of take I could have on.
And it's already happening. It's already been happening.
You know all the high IQ people fell for COVID.
That's my problem. Is like, and and also like
people that want to make it like, you know, you'll look at
the society right now and there are some people and I've never
really fully bought into this. And yes, there is a general
incompetence happening in many industries.
Like you're just like, wow, people are like Dumber than they
ever were right now. There's no social skills, which
again, I don't know if high IQ is a social skill indicator.
In fact, I'd argue it might not be, you know, but anyways, and
some people have like, oh, actually it is.
If you've read I, I know whatever I'm speculating here
and the it's probably a Midwest IQ move, some would say to
speculate like that. But the anyways, the IQ stuff is
interesting to me because there will be people who are like, I'm
anti H1B. IQ is the ultimate metric.
We have too many low IQ people. And I'm like, dude, they might
just like, if I, if you become this IQ essentialist, like
they're just going to import a bunch of Chinese people in here,
like, I'm sorry. Like it's like, like it's I, I'm
maybe I don't know what the, I I'm just not into it at all.
Yeah, the IQ stuff, like I still think you have to have ethics
like, because if you like, what stops, what stops President Bill
Gates from happening? What stops President Peter Thiel
from happening, which some would argue already is, I don't know,
but like some would argue that's literally already happening in
our country. But what is to stop these people
who are clearly smart that on an IQ test, you'll like the
results? Like if you saw it and you go,
well, this guy's got a bunch of money.
This guy's got a bunch of power IQ, turn the reins over to him.
We'll be fine. And I'm like this.
No, we did. We kind of do that in a, in a
proxy like in a, you know, like kind of a twice removed thing
like way. It's interesting again, I think
it goes back to we don't have, we have a cultural ignorance of
consciousness, you know, and that's what that's bring, what
is what this brings down to and that's, that's every issue.
That's the moral thing. That's the whole, it also kind
of intersects with like the leftist thing where leftist try
and over engineer these like morality things and try and like
fix things at a base level when that falls flat on his face.
And also like I, you know, yeah, I, I think.
And it goes back to the, the whole structure of our fucking
reality, the fact that our brains are not the be all and
all source of our consciousness. It's important in consciousness,
but we're through remote viewing and all sorts of other stuff.
And literally every, every human on earth has experiences that
are non materialistic. So we, we, the high IQ people
can't admit that because that's a dogma.
And that's so again, like it goes so deep with this stuff
where we're like, I think once we, it's like Tesla, the
original Tesla said, like, you know, once we once science turns
its focus to energy and vibration, we'll make more
progress in 10 years than we did in the last 1000, you know, and
it's like just shit like that where it's like, I think really
like. Shut.
Up. Yeah, yeah, like in the fucking
asylum, dude. Fucking make out with that.
Pigeon Yeah, you fucking suck, dude.
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, exactly. No.
And it's, it's so I just think again, my whole thing, my whole
basis for like my whole thing is I, I left like a high IQ quote,
UN quote school because everyone was sad and depressed and hated
each other and no one was happy. And they all, we're going to
people, we're going to be people that ran the world and in like 5
or 10 or 20 years or whatever. Right.
I think there currently are and if that's why we are where we.
Are yeah. And I'm just like, I don't want.
And it was something that I it was like literally what was
promised to me my whole life was like this whole thing.
And I'm like, oh, this is actually the gayest thing I've
ever seen. So it's like, you don't want,
like I'm. It's not as cool as I don't
think. I don't think having like super
low IQ population wide is like a good thing either.
Certainly not like, but at the same and I do think maybe again,
I don't, and I'm not talking about like eugenics or whatever.
So calm down. But I do think future advanced
societies don't let people just be stupid because they have like
an iron deficiency or a zinc, you know what I mean?
Like that, you know, but that same at the same time, I don't
think everyone being high a key with some utopia.
In fact, I know it. No, it's you've, you've, you've
seen it, you've escaped it. And that's why like to me, like,
you know, it's a big hot button topic on like our side about
Peter Thiel. And yeah, I've been, I, I just
because I laughed at Aaron Bushnell lighting himself on
fire. I was apparently on the payroll
for that. And I, I just, you know, for,
for people who have said stuff like that, I'm just like, dude,
I don't think about like not saying he doesn't matter.
I, he clearly does. The Palantir stuff is scary.
All, all of these things are scary.
I, I just to me like those guys don't impress me.
Like anytime I'd like those guys don't impress me, it's I
understand what they're saying. It's an important conversation
that happens amongst people who do control aspects of my life.
I absolutely agree with that. But I just like I hear, you
know, you know, like this whole I I don't know where I'm going
with this, but like, I just hear about like these people talking
about AIAIAI and IQ and I'm always just like man.
So it is very anti human in a way where I'm just like, man,
we're not this fucking stupid as a species, like and the idea
that. People, we invented the AI.
And the people, these people who are on the forefront of tech
engineering, right, which which objectively tells humans that
they're too retarded to do X, therefore we invented Y.
That's like what the tech boom was about was basically, you
know, hey guys, you will never have to do a math problem in
your head again. You know, all these basic things
that were happening in the early 2000s, like you just, you'll
never have to go go to a library to find information.
It will be on this personal computer at home.
Again, A lot of this stuff is good that, that that's the case.
But when people just double down and triple down on anti human,
anti human, anti human just, and then they tell you that like,
well, China's doing this. I'm like, dude, I know why it
works over there. Yeah, cuz fuck, dude.
Like they all just kind of do the same thing.
Yeah, no, it's. Yeah, they're a very uniform
culture. We celebrate individuality here,
which I actually do think is a good thing.
Grit and like, yeah, like, yeah, yeah.
We're weird. We have guns.
Like there's all this shit, like there's there's stuff that makes
US unique to where it's like, I don't I understand, like you
don't want your fucking this country that maybe doesn't love
you too much over there to have all of these things without
ours. And they're worried about Mars.
They're worried about all these big things.
But I'm just kind of like man I see the most anti human bullshit
happening all of the time that where we might have a bunch of
high IQ people that don't utter words for like 5 days straight
and I'm like that's not the reality I want to move in.
No, and it's linked into the autism epidemic.
I'm sorry, I can't. It is so central core to me.
I probably have like stronger takes than a lot of people on
this. I'm just like we cannot allow
this to continue at this level. Like I think it's so connected
to so many things and including the extreme version and also the
spectrum shit. I'm just like yo, and like, I'm
not saying we need to like, you know, root it out and like that
the people that have it, because I fucking have it, you know,
like or whatever, you know, I'm on that shit, you know, and it's
like not. Bad.
I have none of it. I have none of it whatsoever.
But. You unless it's like 1996
baseball stats from like, you know, yeah, like the Padres for
sure. That's famously not autistic
though. That's yeah, yeah, that's based
Alpha Chad shit, but whatever, yeah.
But yeah, it's just, I don't know, I'm just kind of over.
It's like I and the, the tech thing is weird.
I'm just like, what has tech given us?
And I'm like, I'm, I'm kind of like impressed by AI.
I'm like, and I, I use it and I like I write code and I, I use
Python And shit on my on, you know, on, on like on my devices.
And so it's fun, you know, but for nerds.
And, but that being said, like what is tech?
The creativity in tech is so wack.
Like what do we have like DoorDash now that that tracks
your phone and like, that's like what the products are now.
Everything's just like a phone location based thing.
And it's like, it's like there is this weird, like what?
It's like, wow, we're like hyper progressing and like hyper
progressing in certain areas. Like, yeah, billion parameter
models on like a $500 computer you can get on Amazon in a day.
That's fucking impressive. But on the other end, we're like
fucking retarded. It's so insane.
It's just. Well, that's the is the end
game. I, I, I have no way to prove
this, but is the end game, you know, and I'm sure we'll talk
about this in another episode, but like is the end game with
autism, like going like we can't.
It's so easy to do this technocracy that we're doing
right now if everybody's on the spectrum.
And I don't mean just widening the spectrum.
I just mean quite literally shooting heavy metals into
people's brains and making them regular old autistic, at least
functioning in a sense where they can enter in numbers on a
computer. In fact, enjoy it.
See that as a not a duty in life, but a necessary action or
else they freak out or whatever. And like, you know, you see it
like you, you go to Google or as Indian guys say, Google when you
go to Google, like you're like, you'll see I've, I've gone
through their campus and stuff and like, you'll just see people
like like where it's like this is an autism factory, like where
you just have like unlimited fucking Captain Crunch and
Cinnamon Toast crunch, chicken tenders livery and you're just
entering bullshit into a fucking computer all day.
And I look at that and I go like, is the end game to have
everyone be autistic? Like, like, like to a degree,
right? Because then you do that is very
easy to just have like AI being the almost AI being the.
We gotta resist it a little bit. We gotta put up a little bit of
a fucking yeah, just like a little bit, you know?
And yeah, I think. Yeah, that's well seen.
So yeah. Yeah.
Well, guys, I hope everybody has a pleasant 4th of July Gain of
Fiction's coming out. I think hopefully tomorrow I, I,
I want to get it out. What's the backlog like?
What's the fucking? Crazy right now I'm going to be
like giving one away for free next week just because the
backlog is nuts like I it's it's it's wild like right now the
backlog is Tropic of cancer, which will release tomorrow with
with Vincent nappy and then sharp objects with the that's a
great one for sure too. And then American Psycho and I
mean, honestly, like next weekend we're doing another
Welbeck chat. Like it's just like there's a
lot, a lot of that stuff is. And I don't wanna flood you guys
with constant book stuff, you know, whatever it's that's why
we do it. I space them out a little bit
and they're not very time sensitive.
But then also there will be the Gravities rainbow coming up
next. Hopefully by August, I'll have
everything done with Gravity's Rainbow.
That'll be a three-part series. I don't know if I'll put it on
this feed. If you guys want it, just let me
know. I yeah, put it on this feed.
But it's going to be like a bit, I might just do something like
separate where people can access it all the time.
We'll see. But if you, because I, if you
guys don't have any interest in that, that is like literally
going to be like 6 hours of like Gravity's rainbow talk.
So which is great. It's, it's a great talk.
We're already about 1/3 of the way through recording there.
And like I said, call the hotline.
You could. It doesn't have to be for the
paranormal thing. If you have a question for the
show, anything like that comment, fun questions or
anything, we're also on TikTok. Now I'm gonna start, I'm gonna
start doing some fun stuff on TikTok.
I, I cannot understand the the, the way that app works, though.
It is crazy. I started a TikTok for us.
It's at rare candy industries on TikTok.
Please, you know, give us a follow or whatever.
And it's kind of cool because like we, I'll post like a random
Charli XCX Kamala is brat thing and it'll be a bunch of people
that would have never seen us otherwise like it.
So it is kind of cool. I'm like, OK, that's cool for
sure. But then like if you just press
home on TikTok, literally home a video, it it was just a woman,
it was a woman going books are not for men.
Like, and then you're like, and I know that there's no volume.
I don't click that. Like sites that are sites that
are developed by men for men have the volume off that you
have to manually click on sites developed.
I for women. They just start screaming at you
immediately. And so like the it's funny, like
I'll follow people on there and their repost stuff is just like,
like it'll be like some guy dancing with his wife and then
like, and then like they start arguing and I'm like, why is
this playing? I wanted to just post a video.
So I'm on there. I'm going to try some fun stuff
on there moment. Mainly just clips for the show
for now, which are done by AI. But but like, no, it's actually
pretty sick. So yeah, guys, just just check
that out. So on that, no guy, we're going
to say we can catch you guys next.