1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:05,520 Hey guys, we are back. Sorry for the episode we skipped 2 00:00:05,520 --> 00:00:11,120 that one time and the episode last time and that's we didn't 3 00:00:11,120 --> 00:00:15,000 play it at all, but it's sad to say we also didn't really delete 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,440 on this one. But it'll be fun, don't worry. 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,080 Check it out, thanks for watching. 6 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,759 Corporate crash out? Will you cash in or crash out? 7 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,440 Have you heard about the job market right now? 8 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:45,040 Yes, I have heard some crazy things and I was also at a 9 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,480 career fair like last week on this, my first time on the other 10 00:00:49,480 --> 00:00:54,720 side of the table at the career fair and you know, interesting 11 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:59,320 stuff out there. Who did you talk to? 12 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,360 Who was like the most insufferable person that you 13 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,000 talked to? Because I know there are some 14 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,160 people. I mean, this is like an 15 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,600 accounting career fair. So it's, you know, a little 16 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:17,760 tough, but guys, the craziest thing that happened to me, we'll 17 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,560 just start. There is a kid showed me a 18 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,080 picture of him with a death row inmate sitting in the electric 19 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,800 chair. Like he was OK, sorry. 20 00:01:27,960 --> 00:01:30,520 The candidate, like the kid at the career fair was sitting in 21 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,480 the electric chair and the guy on death row was by him and was 22 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,480 like, ah, they're like taking a selfie. 23 00:01:38,960 --> 00:01:40,800 I honestly have no words, Claire. 24 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:46,640 That's that's I was like, and I had kind of joined the 25 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,320 conversation. I wasn't the first person like 26 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,160 in the conversation, like having a conversation with this 27 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,680 student. But on the Long story short, I 28 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,320 guess he used to be like a contractor of some kind and 29 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,960 like, they had a lot of prisons that they would go to and, like, 30 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,440 fix things. And he was like, yeah, you'd be 31 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,680 surprised. Like all the inmates are pretty 32 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,479 nice, but the death row ones, they are the nicest. 33 00:02:09,479 --> 00:02:12,400 They'll be like, hey, do you guys need some help? 34 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,200 And do you want to take a picture? 35 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,200 You want to see me like? Probably like lure. 36 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,840 Want to lure people in? I don't know, but I was just 37 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,720 like, that's so bold to show like someone at a company, a 38 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,760 career fair, a picture of you in an electric chair with a 39 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,960 prisoner. But I mean, it did relate to his 40 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,640 past experience and I guess what I remembered him, so he stood 41 00:02:35,640 --> 00:02:42,680 out. Guys, tips for this bad job 42 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,840 market? I'm surprised they even sent you 43 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,880 to a career fair in the job market we're having right now. 44 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,720 Yeah, but like it's, it's a hard line to walk because as a 45 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:59,480 company you don't want to like lose relationship with the 46 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,840 different universities and their programs. 47 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,560 You know, even if it's like you're not looking for someone, 48 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:11,600 something you need to show face and you know, keep that. 49 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,360 Yeah. And I think that's also one of 50 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,360 the problems that we see is like sometimes it looks like there's 51 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,920 more jobs than there actually are, but then you go to a career 52 00:03:20,920 --> 00:03:24,120 fair or something where you think people want to hire and 53 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,440 then it just turns out that they're actually just there to 54 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,960 show face and have no interest in actually talking to you. 55 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,320 So that's hard to. No, 100%. 56 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:37,440 And I think that there's just not enough, like I don't want to 57 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,160 say good candidates out. There. 58 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:44,640 But I just feel like the talent pool isn't meeting the need and 59 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,000 then it's like the people won't just take anyone because they're 60 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,120 not looking for a ton of people. And it just like makes this 61 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:56,360 weird gap between employers and entry level workers I guess. 62 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,480 That's true. I feel like comps I students are 63 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,440 having the worst time right now, which I think is so ironic 64 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,280 because I think everybody went into comps I at least some 65 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,040 people from high school that I knew just to get like paid 66 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,360 really well. Yeah. 67 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,440 I'm fortunate. No, for sure. 68 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,519 And it's like, I think a lot of people went into it thinking 69 00:04:17,519 --> 00:04:19,880 like, Oh my gosh, everything's going towards computer. 70 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,880 We're going to need so many computer scientists. 71 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,360 But I don't really know how much of A reality that is. 72 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,040 And I'd have to obviously dig in and do some research on this, 73 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,920 but I don't think it can be that much of A reality when, you 74 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,360 know, it takes 1 computer scientist to start something 75 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,640 that will like, I feel like, what's the word I'm looking for? 76 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,280 Like multiplies, like you don't need as many people because of 77 00:04:40,280 --> 00:04:42,080 like AI and like machine learning. 78 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:47,200 Yeah, no, I definitely agree. I think I don't know it's just 79 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,760 this tough spot for everyone. I only know the one profession 80 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,760 that apparently to the job like announcement last week. 81 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,840 The only thing doing really well right now is healthcare because 82 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,720 you know, the rumors are so old and they still need people to 83 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,680 take care of them so. If you can't. 84 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,320 Find a dog, try healthcare guys. Yeah. 85 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,280 But then it's like also I feel like the programs and like maybe 86 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:16,680 at the lower levels, it's not as hard to get into. 87 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,280 But you know, to have any sort of certification in a healthcare 88 00:05:20,280 --> 00:05:22,600 program, I feel like those are pretty competitive usually and 89 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,920 hard to get into. So it's, I don't know, it's very 90 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,920 interesting. I guess more what I was talking 91 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,320 about was like maybe even like corporate healthcare stuff. 92 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,640 So pharmaceuticals might still be doing like, well, you know 93 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,800 what I'm saying? Because people still need those 94 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,560 and especially like the GLP one, drugs are really taking off 95 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,840 right now so. Good skitty everyone. 96 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:55,200 No, I I was totally thinking of like nurses and Cnas and stuff. 97 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,720 Like no, that's for sure, but I think on the corporate side, 98 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,680 maybe there are some, I don't know honestly, but I would that 99 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,840 if I was unemployed and didn't have a job offer lined up, 100 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,040 that's probably where I'd be running to 1st. 101 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,680 Interesting. OK, I also. 102 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,560 Have been seeing a lot of like upper level corporate job 103 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,360 postings. Like I feel like everyone's 104 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,440 hurting for managers and directors and stuff, at least in 105 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,640 the accounting world. I could be like blanketly 106 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,560 applying this to industries but whenever I'm on LinkedIn I see a 107 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,400 ton of job postings for that level. 108 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,880 It's. Interesting. 109 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,080 Yeah. I mean, we'll see what happens. 110 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:42,400 I feel bad for like, I know people say people like 2 years 111 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,240 above us are having problems, but honestly I feel like it's a 112 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,560 lot of people who are in engineering and stuff and you 113 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,040 know, thought they were going to get into Compsci and now I see a 114 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,960 lot of them returning on Wash use campus so to get their 115 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,320 master's degree because they just don't know what else to do. 116 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,640 But I will also say that like for engineering, typically you 117 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,720 do. I feel like more people get 118 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,320 their master's degrees and you can get it right after 119 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,640 undergrad, I guess. So hey, that's why too. 120 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,440 Yeah, but it's it's brutal out there and everyone's ghosting. 121 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,480 And I also feel like it looks like there's more jobs out there 122 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,240 than there are in reality because people take forever to 123 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:27,960 take job postings down. Yeah, with LinkedIn, I will. 124 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,880 Like we talked about this last time, they're way better at 125 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,040 taking stuff down really quickly. 126 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:39,200 So I don't know, I definitely, I haven't looked at LinkedIn in a 127 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,640 bit. Whenever I go like back to 128 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,600 school, I just don't have the time I feel like. 129 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,400 And at work I just get super bored. 130 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,480 So I look at everything. Imagine being bored at work. 131 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:58,400 Crazy. But yeah, like, I don't know, 132 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,640 grad school or like, school is super interesting too, but 133 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,000 everyone has been getting so sick and everybody's saying that 134 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,600 like, COVID is coming back and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, 135 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,040 which I'm not opposed to, like virtual classes. 136 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,400 Katie's like I'm bored I don't want to go. 137 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,360 You have more time to scroll and LinkedIn if you are doing 138 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,800 virtual classes. I know, I know. 139 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,080 And like The other thing I just don't understand is like why? 140 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,360 Why can't I have just like a few virtual classes here and there? 141 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,840 I'm just really tired. I'm on my last semester. 142 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:38,280 I'm just like why? Why am I doing this clam? 143 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,039 No, I actually totally agree with this because I could take a 144 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:46,360 virtual day at work. So why not give that to 145 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,320 students? It's more realistic of how the 146 00:08:48,680 --> 00:08:51,280 real world is these days is that, you know, Fridays I'm 147 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,360 going to be virtual, so you should have some virtual 148 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:54,960 classes. Yeah. 149 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,880 And what's even worse is like, I was sick one time. 150 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,360 And so I was like, oh, hey, can I, like, attend class virtually? 151 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,680 I don't want to miss any of the content because he doesn't post 152 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:06,880 his, like, lecture slides. And he was like, no, we don't do 153 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,720 virtual classes per university policy. 154 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,720 And I was like, oh. That's so rude but people wait, 155 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,840 can we rewind? People are saying COVID back in 156 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,760 that like everyone's getting it. That's what I've been hearing, 157 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,960 like a lot of people have gotten COVID and I don't know. 158 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,320 So fun fact about my academic career, I don't know if you know 159 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:34,400 this, Katie, but I'm the first recorded COVID case at Wash U 160 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,440 Oh, oh. Claire. 161 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,200 OK. I would mention this is so 162 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:45,640 flashback to I'm sure there was a COVID case in the spring of 163 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,880 2020, but flashback to Claire starting college, it's August 164 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:56,440 2020, right? I had an early move in and part 165 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,440 of moving in my freshman year was like, you go to this off 166 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,800 campus location before you're even allowed on campus and you 167 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,760 get COVID tested. Then you go to campus while 168 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,280 you're waiting for the test results to come back. 169 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,200 And this is back when like they didn't have like the rapid test, 170 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,520 like it took like an hour or whatever to process it. 171 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,840 And so you would go to your dorm and unpack, but you're not 172 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,400 supposed to talk to anyone else. Like don't talk to your suite 173 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,760 mates, like only you and your family go to your room and like 174 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:28,720 unpack your stuff. So anyways, me and my parents 175 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,000 go, we unpack our stuff. Like my dorm room is so cute. 176 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,720 My parents take a little picture of me sitting on my bed. 177 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,000 It's Oh my gosh. Like we're dropping our last kid 178 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,720 off at college. Bye. 179 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,040 So they leave and they had like planned this like trip to go to 180 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,560 like some wineries nearby for like a day or two, just like 181 00:10:47,560 --> 00:10:49,000 celebrate. Like, you know, we just took our 182 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,720 last kid to college, whatever. And they are not even to the 183 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,960 first stop yet or no, they were in line to buy tickets for the 184 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,400 first stop, like the first winery. 185 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:04,880 And I like called that or I got a call from Washu and they were 186 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:09,280 like, hey, so like your test came back positive. 187 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,800 We can move you to quarantine housing or you can go home. 188 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,760 And before this they had been like, oh, people will be in 189 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,960 quarantine housing and I'm and so you guys can hang out with 190 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:19,680 each other because if you both have COVID, who cares? 191 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,000 I'm like, OK, well, I'll make friends because like I feel like 192 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,800 the first two weeks of college so critical in friend making. 193 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,880 Yeah, that's true. And so I was like, oh, OK, yeah. 194 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,280 Like, are other people in quarantine? 195 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:36,400 And they're like, no, you're the first one. 196 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:41,360 And it's like, violent. I'm going home. 197 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,520 So I called my parents and they came back and picked me up, and 198 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,800 we all drove home together. Like, I never went to college. 199 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:48,960 And then I came back two weeks later. 200 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:52,440 Two weeks? Well. 201 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,360 OK, another funny story about this is so after I came back 202 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,320 positive, like I felt fine, but I started like reflecting on 203 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,400 like the past couple weeks and two weeks before that, like I 204 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,880 had a really sore throat and like was really tired. 205 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,840 But like I didn't even think of COVID because I was like 206 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,200 gardening a bunch and I thought I like got into like some 207 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,040 something in the garden and like it upset my allergy. 208 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,600 Like, I thought I, like, got an allergy. 209 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,320 And then I was like reflecting. I was like, oh shit, that was 210 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,360 COVID. Yes, Katie, you look confused. 211 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:27,280 What do you mean about? Specifically, I was gardening 212 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,800 and I thought like. Real gardening, Katie, like 213 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,480 flower, grew. Up on a farm, we had a lot of 214 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:36,400 flower beds. Yeah, I just. 215 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,400 Wasn't sure if you were spinning about something else. 216 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:44,720 I can't keep going. I was, Oh no, I was like playing 217 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,000 because. You were like Robert. 218 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,960 And then I was coughing and. I was, I'm like making mulch and 219 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,960 stuff. OK, I mean, I was also partying 220 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,000 a lot, but whatever, that wasn't the point. 221 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,880 I thought I just like got into something while I was gardening 222 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,120 and like, it got me a little sick. 223 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,600 Wasn't too worried about it. Then I was reflecting on it. 224 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,760 I was like, oh, I definitely like had COVID then because I 225 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,160 had gone to a different college to go to a party. 226 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:12,200 Like. Three weeks before and like 3 227 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,320 weeks before going to wash, you had gone to like this Community 228 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,360 College Gondo party where then the whole baseball team that was 229 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,200 hanging out with had COVID after. 230 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,640 But I didn't think about that. I was just like, you know, 231 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,560 obviously it was gardening and got sick. 232 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,280 So anyways, Long story short, I test positive. 233 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,520 I'm like sitting here reflecting on my life and I'm like, oh, I 234 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,160 had COVID like 2 weeks ago. No wonder I'm still testing 235 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,960 positive. So I'm like so upset, 'cause I'm 236 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,920 like, I'm going to have no friends if I'm not on campus. 237 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,680 Like I have to get there. So I call the Missouri CDC. 238 00:13:44,680 --> 00:13:47,560 No. And I gas like the fuck out of 239 00:13:47,560 --> 00:13:49,640 them. I'm like look, wash you needs 240 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,120 like they said, I can't come back till I have some release 241 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:56,400 document from the CDC of Missouri that because like they 242 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,800 like sent them. I don't know how this all works 243 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,960 still to this day, but basically moral destroyers. 244 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,440 I was told when you get your release document from Missouri 245 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,720 CDC you can come back. I said great, I'll get that the 246 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:07,560 next day. I'm home. 247 00:14:07,560 --> 00:14:09,000 I get it. I get the document. 248 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,360 I'm like I had the symptoms 3 weeks ago. 249 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,920 Like give me my document. I'm just still testing positive 250 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,520 because the tests, that's how they used to be like it could 251 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:23,680 test positive like months. And so so then I call Washi, I'm 252 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,720 like, boom, I got the document. Can I come back? 253 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:35,000 And they're like, Oh no, I know. So did you have to pay for 254 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,320 housing? I don't know, I didn't even 255 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,680 think about that. But so I just stayed home for 256 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,240 two weeks and my best friend ended up being sick too and she 257 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:45,800 came and lived with me for two weeks. 258 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,640 But I had COVID. I told the people that like I 259 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:54,440 had just been with. And so she came and live with me 260 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,720 for two weeks and then I went back to college and had no 261 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,920 friends for a long time because of it. 262 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:01,200 And my roommates were like scared of me. 263 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,320 And they're like, oh bad. She has COVID. 264 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:04,960 She's crazy. OK. 265 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,040 But like, obviously you were over it by the time you came 266 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,280 back. I know. 267 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,080 But the really clutch part about it was I didn't have to test 268 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,560 like we used to have to test weekly my freshman year, and I 269 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:19,520 didn't have to test until like later on in my freshman spring. 270 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:27,720 OK, but. Sorry, should I talk about my 271 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:32,920 random ass college? OK, one of the things I've been 272 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:39,640 really wanting to do is match Starbucks drinks to people in 273 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:46,360 appropriate functions. I think we can also make a meme 274 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:52,840 about this on our page button. I think finance guys are black 275 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:58,200 coffee and or maybe like a Nitro cold brew. 276 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:04,040 Yeah, no, definitely Nitro cold brew like they're too like and 277 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,960 they're like to admit that they don't really want to drink 278 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,000 straight black coffee. Yes. 279 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,600 And they think that like, they're going to gain aura 280 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,040 points by the stronger their coffee is. 281 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:18,360 But in reality, like, if they like behind closed door, they're 282 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,600 like chugging a latte. But like, if you ask like if or 283 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,080 if they go with coffee together, they get like a Nitro cold brew 284 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,920 because they want to be like on trend. 285 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,840 Yeah. Also don't want to be fru fru. 286 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,200 Yeah, I totally think that. And then I also think marketing 287 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,320 is clearly a pink drink. I think that's very obvious. 288 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,440 No marketing is like whatever the newest drink that come out 289 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,800 is like. Think Starbucks seasonal menu 290 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,680 wait. But OK, I feel like a lot of 291 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,720 people get Starbucks seasonal menu. 292 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,240 Who's matcha though? I feel like that's like a nerdy 293 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,400 person. Who's matcha? 294 00:16:53,000 --> 00:17:01,480 Yeah, HR No. HR is like so nosy. 295 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:07,440 I don't know who matcha is I. Don't. 296 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,760 If you know who matcha is, please. 297 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,480 OK, we'll figure it out. We'll post on the Instagram, but 298 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,280 if you guys have ideas, comment below. 299 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,280 OK. How is your work with AI, 300 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,520 Claire, if you don't mind talking to me about it? 301 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:28,560 Yeah, kind of interesting. Honestly, it's really great 302 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:32,160 because a lot of accounting you have to read like these big 303 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,280 like, you know, IRS or SEC documents. 304 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,360 So it's really a great tool to summarize things. 305 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,040 But I think it's still a long way to go on like technical 306 00:17:43,120 --> 00:17:44,920 items. Like I've definitely asked AI 307 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,080 some questions in accounting and like literally for like a debit 308 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,920 and a credit entry and it came back and I was like, that's not 309 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,000 right. So like it got me started along 310 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,960 the right path. So I think it's definitely just 311 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,080 like a work in progress because a lot of things in my specific 312 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:08,040 industry are so like exact and so detailed and specific to like 313 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,560 your scenario. But I think it's definitely 314 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,600 really useful and I love asking a dumb questions throughout the 315 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,040 day. That's fair, I really like it 316 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,680 for coding. Obviously, like especially with 317 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,960 my professors, they all are actually really OK. 318 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,240 Everybody in the real world uses Python. 319 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,760 Let me just clarify this. Like you're not using R or 320 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,480 Matlab anymore unless you're like a very academic person and 321 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:34,920 this is what you learn in college. 322 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:39,600 And they all us use R And I'm like, please stop. 323 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,160 Please. Actually, it's so bad. 324 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,240 So like quality is bad. Like all the air, you get a 325 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,680 bunch of errors every two seconds, whereas like Python 326 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,680 will actually tell you what the error is. 327 00:18:50,120 --> 00:18:52,360 And then just like R is just super. 328 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,160 I don't know. So I use it for that all the 329 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,960 time because I'm like OK I know how to code this exact same 330 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:02,520 thing in Python, but if I need help like figuring out what 331 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,360 exactly the code should be an ARM, then I do use. 332 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,960 I kind of miss coding though I I don't know if I would want it to 333 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,840 write the code for me because I get some like satisfaction out 334 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,560 of like typing out the code. You know I get action out of 335 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,800 having free time. Claire Ashley. 336 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,880 No, I think, I think it's very interesting though. 337 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,960 I think there's going to be a lot of replacements in the 338 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,840 accounting industry eventually once. 339 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,720 I mean, it would really only take training. 340 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,160 I think you could really hone it in. 341 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,640 I don't know. Not that I'm thinking about it, 342 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,120 but it's just not there yet. In my opinion, I think like, 343 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,840 it'll augment accounting and legal field so much because in 344 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,360 there there's just so much reading, so much paperwork, and 345 00:19:48,360 --> 00:19:51,640 it's like always some weird odd law you have to like find and 346 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,160 search for. And I do think like AI, 347 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,360 especially like LLMS clearly could be really good, you know? 348 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,560 I think it's going to be very good for. 349 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,880 Really any job, but I'm thinking of mine specifically where you 350 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,680 do the same thing over and over again, but each time it produces 351 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,880 either like a different error you find or like a different 352 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,560 weird thing that's off. So like if nothing else, just 353 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,600 like identifying those. So like, you don't look for it 354 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:23,440 and then you can just address it on the spot rather than having 355 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:24,840 to pick through all the data yourself. 356 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,680 Yeah, that was really interesting. 357 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,160 Like one of my classes on it right now is just so cool. 358 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,520 But it's like basically the whole thing is so crazy because 359 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,000 it's like coming from a business perspective and then going to an 360 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,800 engineering perspective, it's just like mild in the way people 361 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,200 interpret things like an engineering or a professor was 362 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,760 like, OK, how would you explain a decision tree? 363 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,320 How would you explain like these other things like and it gets 364 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,280 more and more complex and like some of us just do it and we 365 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,000 don't really like sit and be like, OK, why are we doing, you 366 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,840 know what I'm saying? Like, why are we doing, Like, 367 00:20:57,120 --> 00:20:59,560 what are we accomplishing? What is happening, like with the 368 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,600 data? And like, I don't know who's 369 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,400 asking us those questions? And so we'll have to like make 370 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:10,000 an AI model and present it to investors, which is really cool. 371 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,280 Who like wouldn't know anything about AI or machine learning. 372 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,800 And I don't know, I'm really excited. 373 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,360 That's fun. But Emily wanted ours to be on 374 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:26,320 like some MRI imaging thing I don't know anything about, so 375 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,320 I'm going to have to learn a lot and that's OK. 376 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,040 It's OK, that means why you're in school, right? 377 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,960 Claire done learning. I've retired. 378 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,360 I never want to learn again. Well, guess what? 379 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,960 All you're going to do for at least the first year of your 380 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,000 job, and really probably your whole career is learn. 381 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,240 I think I had this realization today that I'm just never going 382 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,720 to stop learning and I'm never going to like get a break. 383 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,520 Like I just went from going to school from August to December 384 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,400 and then January through May to just going to school 24/7. 385 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,120 I understand why we have the same brakes, like why do we have 386 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:06,880 breaks in schools but not in work? 387 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,560 Yeah. I mean, I guess if you have like 388 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,760 a very stagnant career or like something that's like really 389 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,360 repetitive, like maybe you wouldn't feel the same way about 390 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,200 everything, just continuing learning. 391 00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:24,800 Do you know who Taylor Frankie Paul is? 392 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,400 Claire, this has nothing to do. Let's be real. 393 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,480 This has nothing to do with the podcast. 394 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,040 It has to do with business because this is all I can think 395 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,560 about today, OK. OK, fine. 396 00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:43,320 Hear me out so we know Taylor Frankie Paul Secret life of 397 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,040 Mormon wives. Great. 398 00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:47,160 Didn't really care for the show personally. 399 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,120 Yeah, me neither. I guess I can see the appeal. 400 00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:52,600 It's like every other trashy reality TV show. 401 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:59,160 So The Bachelorette chooses Taylor, Frankie, Paul. 402 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,440 Yeah, Bachelorette was a dying show. 403 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,600 Was it I guess? Yeah. 404 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,600 It was mostly in the Bachelor right? 405 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,520 That got the most attention. I feel like Bachelor Nation is 406 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,280 what they kind of call them, like the umbrella. 407 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,360 I mean, that's why they came out with like the old people 408 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:17,240 Bachelor. Oh yeah. 409 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,120 I think they're trying everything to save the show and 410 00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:23,400 I think they just did it like whoever is running this business 411 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,840 really knows, like they're doing a great job. 412 00:23:28,360 --> 00:23:30,360 They're about to save the show single handedly. 413 00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:32,160 That's all I could think about when I heard the announcement 414 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:37,080 was how strategic this is. Boom. 415 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,200 Wow. He's really not sold. 416 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,480 I just like the thing I don't understand. 417 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,040 And this also goes back to like influencers and we can talk 418 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,800 about that as well, like this new kind of job category that is 419 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:57,320 becoming an influencer. And like I, you just, I feel 420 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,920 like OK for that instance for Taylor right now, she's probably 421 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:06,080 doing well in regards to she's doing like a lot of collabs with 422 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,800 a bunch of different things, but she's also like a mom working. 423 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,800 So I can't even imagine like what that's like. 424 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,560 I, I don't know, I think it's weird 'cause it didn't. 425 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,880 Macy Neely, who's one of the people on the show, that's her 426 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,720 name, right? She has a vitamin company or 427 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:27,040 something? I just love that how like the 428 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,200 new thing is like you just get famous for doing nothing and 429 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,640 then you randomly just launch a random business. 430 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,920 I feel like this is like everyone these days like oh got 431 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,680 famous for dancing on TikTok go buy my leggings. 432 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:43,000 Oh, got famous for ranting on TikTok. 433 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,680 I am now selling organic juices. Like I feel like this is just 434 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,400 the world now. It's so interesting. 435 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,480 Yeah. I definitely agree with that 436 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,080 because I think like any business at all, that's just 437 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,320 kind of very general. I think. 438 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,880 OK, so she did a gummy barrel, a gummy line, like a Wellness 439 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,880 vitamins, and so did Kourtney Kardashian. 440 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,680 She also did like the Lenny gummies and I think Alex Cooper 441 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,680 just came out with her unwell or this has been a work in 442 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,920 progress, I guess, for her or her unwell drinks. 443 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,120 So I think it just says something like interesting about 444 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,400 influencers and like the amount of disruption they can have to 445 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,080 an industry which normally is so over flooded. 446 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,320 Like think about Kylie cosmetics and like Kylie lips makeup is 447 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,480 like, I feel like one of the most over flooded markets. 448 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,960 You, you do not see like a lot of product repeatability. 449 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,560 You don't see people going back and buying the same products. 450 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,120 It's really just like this new product launched, this one, this 451 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:43,160 one, this one, and it's all based about like trends. 452 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,800 So maybe that's why like they get so much money. 453 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,600 And also you saw that with Rd. I don't understand how Rd. is 454 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,920 valued at a billion dollars. Sorry, Haley Bieber, but I 455 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,000 actually like kind of good for you. 456 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,840 I'm not saying that like in a negative way. 457 00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:01,040 I'm just so confused like how that constitutes a billion 458 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,520 dollar business. It's because you're really just 459 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,800 selling yourself like you're selling your image. 460 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,280 OK, but here's the thing though. What happens when I sell Rd. 461 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,640 like Hailey Bieber's going to do like Kylie Cosmetics, And what 462 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,560 happens when I sell that? It dies. 463 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,280 I mean, that's what happened with Kylie, like, and then her 464 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,200 line died. So I'm like, who would buy that? 465 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,320 You don't feel like, for me, then it's like at some point 466 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,840 there's kind of a cap because you can only do so much, you 467 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,600 know? It's like making this whole new 468 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,400 market of just like celebrity products almost. 469 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,840 Well, it's like, I just don't understand how they're because 470 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,680 the way to get their money out of it. 471 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,520 Basically it's like obviously like make a profit, but like if 472 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,400 you don't, they don't really don't like managing stuff long 473 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,480 term. And like, which I agree with, if 474 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,400 I made a huge business, I'd probably also sell it, just get 475 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,840 the cash out of it at least for a while so I can do other 476 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,560 things. But I don't know, I just don't 477 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,280 understand like who their sellers are. 478 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,720 Like I know it's some of these like large beauty firms, but I'm 479 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,520 like, what's going to happen to your products when they're not 480 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,280 the face of it anymore? I don't know. 481 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,680 It's just really interesting. So I wonder what like what these 482 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,680 people's plans are like Macy Neely, like I wonder what her 483 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,160 plan is, if she's going to sell it or do something else. 484 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,520 But. Yeah, I I genuinely don't know, 485 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,200 but I also think it's kind of alarming how easily consumers 486 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,880 get sucked in to all these different influencers and will 487 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,840 literally buy whatever shit they'll shove your way. 488 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,680 That Yeah, see that? To me, it's like, I don't know 489 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,600 because I can't tell how much of it is real and how much of it is 490 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,080 not. Because I know, remember that 491 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,560 when that Kylie Cosmetics thing came out of her being a 492 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,800 billionaire and then Forbes attracted it because she 493 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,720 apparently like fudged the numbers and so on for whatever. 494 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,840 So that is it Like, OK, I'm going to say like I'm going to 495 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,080 put my face on it. I know I'm valuable as a person. 496 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,600 And then, you know, I guess apparently she didn't make the 497 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,560 product. She just like did white 498 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,000 labeling, which if you don't know what that is, it's like 499 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,080 when you get a product from another brand that already 500 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,080 creates it and then put your own label on it. 501 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,760 So very similar to what they do in like Publix. 502 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,760 They'll have like Publix brand of, you know, Rice Krispie 503 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,320 Treats, but it's really Rice Krispie Treats that makes it and 504 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:23,360 they put it, you know, whatever. But yeah, and I was just like, I 505 00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:26,760 can't, I don't understand. Like if it's truly her marketing 506 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,640 that's good or if it's just that the numbers they look good 507 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,560 enough. And then they also, I know she 508 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,360 drove like just a lot of urgency by having everything sell out 509 00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:37,760 really quick. So I feel like that also made it 510 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:43,320 seem like a more, you know, lucrative then maybe it was, but 511 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,280 I don't know. So schemey to me and I'm just 512 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,440 like, I just find it so odd that we all sit here and scroll 513 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,800 through like TikTok and Instagram and just let people 514 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,920 get rich off of doing like stupid hand waving motions. 515 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,520 What like gets me though, I think, is that some of these 516 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,320 people actually just were always rich. 517 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,440 And then I hate it when people are like, oh, well, they got 518 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,120 rich now. Like, no, this is what you're 519 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,320 promoting. Like you're promoting people 520 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,320 with Gucci bags and people with like all these designer brands, 521 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,080 the exact thing a lot of people, at least in our generation, are 522 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,280 fighting against and say they don't want. 523 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,480 And now they're just like making all these influencers so 524 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,320 popular. Like the amount of people that 525 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,960 follow Alex Earl and things like that, I'm just actually shocked. 526 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,800 Like I genuinely like sometimes just look through like who I'm 527 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,720 following that follows them. And it's a surprising amount of 528 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,240 people. So I don't know. 529 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,000 Yeah, I mean, I've never been big on like celebrity culture. 530 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,960 That's neither. I just, I can never really get 531 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,920 behind that. Like, I've always found concerts 532 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,480 to be a weird phenomenon to like, we're all going to gather 533 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,480 in this weird play. Like we're all going to gather 534 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,160 in a place and we are just going to, like, sing at this person 535 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,040 their songs. And we're just like going to pay 536 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:11,000 $600 to see a human being. I I also, OK, thank you for 537 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,280 saying this because I also do not understand. 538 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,720 I've been to like, maybe like one or two concerts and like, 539 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,960 sure, the cheap ones are fun, but like, I don't understand why 540 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:25,840 I would sit in a theater to have somebody sing a song that I've 541 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,720 already listened to on Spotify. And maybe I'm just super lame. 542 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,000 Maybe I don't get the vibes. I don't get it. 543 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,600 But like, why would I pay so much more money for that? 544 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,520 And like, oftentimes I feel like they try to change the way they 545 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,040 sung the song to make something different, to have like a 546 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,760 differentiator. And then it's worse. 547 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:47,040 And I'm like, well, I came here and it's just like worse than, I 548 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:52,320 don't know. For me, it's just like, so you 549 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,440 buy the $600.00 ticket. Well, now you have to buy an 550 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,440 outfit and you spent $50 on that, and now you have to go to 551 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,000 dinner beforehand and it's another $100. 552 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,120 And then you have to Uber there because you want to drink while 553 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,200 you're there. And then it's another $50. 554 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,840 And then it's like, Oh well, this concert is actually in 555 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,600 another city so I'm going to get a hotel. 556 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,320 And it's just like, where do you stop? 557 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,960 Yeah. Like you're literally spending 558 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,360 this on someone you don't fucking know because at the end 559 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,120 of the day that's what you're doing. 560 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,120 Handing Taylor Swift 1200 dollars? 561 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,960 Insane to me. Yeah. 562 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,280 And I feel like there's some things that I'm like, OK with 563 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,000 Tate. Like I might actually go to like 564 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,800 a Tate concert just because her dancing is really cool. 565 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,960 And I feel like the stage presence she has, at least to 566 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,720 me, is like much stronger than a lot of these other artists who'd 567 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,080 literally just get there, like with the mic and stand there and 568 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,640 sing, I think. Like shoes brings me. 569 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,560 I'm so glad you brought up Tate because this is exactly my 570 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,840 exactly my argument. She's actually going to be in 571 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,040 town tomorrow night and I don't have tickets and I'm really sad. 572 00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:00,120 But bring back pop stars. They're supposed to be 573 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,160 performers. Like Tate is the next Britney 574 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,520 Spears in my eyes. Like I think that when we look 575 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,960 back, she's the Britney Spears and now. 576 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,480 And like, that's like, I understand going to a show to be 577 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,840 entertained, but like these singers who just stand there 578 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,800 aren't cutting it for me. I don't like Vincent Boone but I 579 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,040 will say the clips I see of him on TikTok like he puts on a good 580 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,880 show. I remember. 581 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,640 Flip. You will flip for me. 582 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,160 But like, I think it's so funny too, because the thing that all 583 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,800 these like labels would tell Tate and she did like a YouTube 584 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,720 video, I guess about this or something, but was that she 585 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,920 couldn't dance. They were like, if you want to 586 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,920 pursue music, you're not allowed to dance. 587 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,440 You cannot like get into dancing. 588 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,880 You have to niche yourself down and I feel like that's what I 589 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,520 hear on TikTok, that's what I hear on Instagram. 590 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:53,280 Everybody wants like all these like agencies, all these labels 591 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,000 are telling people to niche themselves down. 592 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,400 I think that is the worst thing possible to do in like honestly, 593 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,520 just anything. I don't know, because I think 594 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,040 the interesting thing about people is that you have multiple 595 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,800 parts of your life and I think sharing multiple parts of your 596 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,800 life just makes you more interesting as a person. 597 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,080 I still think that like we were talking about that for our 598 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,320 resumes and how you were like, oh, we'll put, you know, you're 599 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,520 in cabbage Delta put that you like doing fun hobbies because 600 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,000 people relate to that. And so I think that's also a 601 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,520 huge component of just like life, like just post interesting 602 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:32,480 stuff and I don't know but. On the same no this will get me 603 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,960 back on a Taylor Swift theory. I think that's like why people 604 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,680 get so wrapped up in her because she shares too much of her 605 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,400 personal life and too many opinions that aren't related to 606 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,280 why she's famous. And then people feel like they 607 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,240 actually know her and it's like this whole toxic like cycle in 608 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,560 my opinion. And I think this is what gets 609 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,680 people hooked a little bit. I was wondering like, what makes 610 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,160 Taylor Swift? Like, I mean, I never really 611 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,520 listened to her music, but I used to obviously when I was 612 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:05,040 younger and it's very nostalgic for me, but I don't know, I was 613 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,840 like, I she's one of the people I think has, who has like just 614 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:19,159 kept her famousness, if that's a word for notoriety for so long. 615 00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:22,560 And I was like really surprised at that because I don't know And 616 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,320 I honestly don't know how she does it. 617 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:29,199 But the other thing I want to talk about too is like, OK, 618 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,719 obviously we're getting kind of derailed. 619 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,560 But I think like the point of this whole episode is that we're 620 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,639 going like beyond just corporate life. 621 00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:39,360 It's like other opportunities for money and what we see from 622 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,600 like influencers, artists and things like out in businesses 623 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,239 but. Business at the end of the day 624 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,840 you scrolling through TikTok is making someone money so. 625 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,080 And as we move into like this weirder, weirder job market 626 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,280 where people are struggling to find jobs and I think there's a 627 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,360 lot more influencers, at least I feel like I've noticed tried to 628 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,160 come up on TikTok and other things. 629 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,840 Like we know a few people at our school who've been like working 630 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,080 on their influencer brands. And I just think it's so 631 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,320 interesting. And like going back to that 632 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,320 business topic we were talking about, I think it's like almost 633 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:19,240 if you want to have a general kind of business like lip gloss 634 00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:22,640 or gummies or something like that, you are going to have to 635 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,320 do some marketing. And that's what that is. 636 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,320 It's like influencer marketing. People have to know you and your 637 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,760 story before they actually know your product and it makes them 638 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,440 feel like more emotionally attached to it or something. 639 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,440 And I think that's going to be a huge thing that we'll keep 640 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,000 seeing. And I honestly don't understand 641 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,480 like on that point, why a lot of influencers don't fully, you 642 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,560 know, engage with that, like why they don't fully go into a 643 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,160 business because I feel like that could be very profitable, 644 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:56,120 but. Yeah, I, I understand that. 645 00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,640 And I also don't, I think it's just, I don't, I don't know how 646 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,960 many times I'm going to say weird in this episode, but it's 647 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:08,360 just weird to me that like people don't go to the store 648 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,800 anymore and like, I'm going to pick this lip gloss because I 649 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,680 truly think it makes my lips look shinier, you know? 650 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:18,600 Yeah, well, I think also like, OK, one of the things I will say 651 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,800 is like, maybe it's because you're saying like, oh, like I'm 652 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,400 not picking it just because it's like the shiniest lip gloss or 653 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,760 whatever. But I think like on if I'm 654 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,200 already following like Kylie Jenner and then I see she has 655 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,440 like a lip brand. Like maybe it's just like 656 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,480 exposure to more people that you don't even have to pay for. 657 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,040 Like cut all the marketing costs, cut the like, you know, 658 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,400 like million multi $1,000,000 super bad to reach the same 659 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,360 people. I mean, you don't even have to 660 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,120 pay for any of that. So and the other thing, you 661 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,360 know, what I think is so interesting too, and this also 662 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:54,360 confuses me is or like Skims and like some of like Kim 663 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,280 Kardashian's brands, why she doesn't always appear in all the 664 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,800 ads herself? I don't understand that because 665 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,920 if she was really like, if I think about this, if it is 666 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,480 really about her face, if it is, I don't know if she's worried 667 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,320 about overexposure at this point. 668 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,520 But and if you look at the models, they're not her. 669 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,760 And I feel like for me, if I created a clothing brand, I'd 670 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:21,640 want like a few of the pieces. Yeah, talking, everyone is 671 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,120 modeled by her, but like maybe on like when they drop a new 672 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,480 line, she's like in the seven people because I feel like they 673 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,320 always have like multiple people in like the shot. 674 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,120 Yeah. So I like, I guess it's also 675 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:38,080 just being like maybe busy or whatever her like, I don't know, 676 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:39,880 but I also think that's the same. 677 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,840 But this is what I wanted to talk about. 678 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,240 Sorry, sorry, sorry. So I think one of the biggest 679 00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:50,880 misconceptions to me and like the whole world for a while was 680 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,560 that actors like all these actors, you see them, they're 681 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,320 like, wow, they must have worked so hard to get where they are. 682 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,720 Or maybe influencers, you feel that way as well. 683 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,720 And like, obviously, like Addison Ray is doing, you know, 684 00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:08,440 like a music thing now. I'll start it online. 685 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,520 But what I really never realized, and this is alleged, 686 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,760 first of all, I'm not even going to like say any facts, but like 687 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:22,960 if I do they're alleged, is that I didn't know a lot of these 688 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,800 people how they start and how some bigger names start like the 689 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:32,160 Kardashians and things is that they did like yachting. 690 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,360 I had no idea that that was a thing they did. 691 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,000 Yachting. Yeah. 692 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,920 So yachting, yes. I did not realize this. 693 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,360 OK. It's actually insane to me. 694 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,800 But if you go back and like look at all the news and like all the 695 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,920 Reddit feed and stuff like that, it's stop. 696 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,640 It's actually real, though. So what people do is if you want 697 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,960 to become famous and like you just want like money or if you 698 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,400 know, I don't know, just to meet powerful people, you'll like go 699 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,520 on these boats and they'll hire like models essentially. 700 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,000 So I don't know if you've heard of like promotional modeling, 701 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,200 but it's like people who just want like good looking people at 702 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,280 their events. So more people come and like 703 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,520 whatever. So rich people throw these 704 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,120 parties with, obviously they want hot girls there. 705 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,720 So they hire the hot girls, and then the hot girls can meet 706 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:23,600 people, but sometimes they're asked to do more sexual favors 707 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,760 and things like that. And the problem with this is 708 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,960 that some people have realized that if you go out, like on the 709 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,560 boat, you're in international waters. 710 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,880 And I think This is why, you know, you kind of get this whole 711 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,840 Jeffrey Epstein island by thing because technically. 712 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,440 You can skirt the prostitution laws, yeah. 713 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,280 Essentially, but the other thing. 714 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,040 I will see it guys. Allegedly. 715 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,480 But the other thing I'll say with that too is like, it's also 716 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,720 really dangerous for women because you're out there, 717 00:39:57,720 --> 00:39:59,680 there's probably like no cell reception. 718 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,840 Nobody's going to come get you. You think like, you know what 719 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,400 I'm saying? Like it's like leaves you in a 720 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,840 vulnerable position. But my point I guess here is, is 721 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,720 that there was a story of Kim Kardashian again, I guess like 722 00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:16,800 it's picked up by news. So, but just in case alleged of 723 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,520 her meeting this guy who was like, I forget he's from 724 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:22,880 somewhere in East Asia and he's like. 725 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,840 A billionaire and she was carrying like early in her 726 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:33,200 career, a trash bag full of $250,000 in it back one night 727 00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:37,040 from like hanging out with him and then saying like, oh, she 728 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:41,080 won at she helped him win in gambling and he gave her the 729 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,360 money. But like, and then you can see 730 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,640 the old pictures of them, the old ads of them being like, I 731 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,800 don't know, it's so weird. I went down this rabbit hole. 732 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,640 So especially with media, I didn't realize how prominent 733 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:58,080 this was in our society. So when women on TikTok just go 734 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,320 and they like look good and get really famous instantly, I'm 735 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,720 going to tell you that is not always it. 736 00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:08,040 Like there are reasons why people get to be runway models. 737 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,760 There are reasons why people get to be famous actors. 738 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,680 And it doesn't mean you're worse than them. 739 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,440 It just means that they're exploring other avenues. 740 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,200 So I just wanted to put that out there cuz that was something. 741 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,240 I like always comes down to knowing someone I feel like. 742 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,560 Yeah. And I feel like it's how you get 743 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,680 to meet those high level people, but I think that's really what 744 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,360 helps. Obviously, the Kardashians and 745 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,720 the fact that she had her first, OK, allegedly she had her first 746 00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:42,640 surgery when she was married to this guy, and then she got like 747 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,760 $5,000,000 on something in the divorce and after only marrying 748 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,120 him for four years, but she got married at 19 too. 749 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,120 So I was always just like thinking about it and comparing 750 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,320 myself and being like, OK, well, not comparing myself, but like 751 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,440 kind of using it as a case study to figure out why these people 752 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,840 got crazily successful. And I was just like, there's no 753 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,560 way. And then I found this and I was 754 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,360 like, that makes so much more sense. 755 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,280 No offense. Not that these women aren't like 756 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,760 couldn't be incredibly successful on their own, but 757 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,880 it's also just the networking part is just very difficult. 758 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,920 I just think, yeah, if you, like, pulled the percentage of 759 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,680 people who just, like, made it on their own, just like it's 760 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,280 like more like luck. Whereas putting yourself in 761 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,840 these different scenarios is going to produce a lot more of 762 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,760 these, like, influential celebrities who aren't really 763 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,960 famous necessarily for like, a specific talent OR skill. 764 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,640 They just like got famous. Yeah, And like the same thing 765 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,200 with like, OK, with Alex Cooper. Apparently she dated this guy 766 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,680 who is like a sports person. And I forget who it was, but 767 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,280 apparently that's what hurt. Got her a ton of attention 768 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,680 because she was like, dating him. 769 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:56,520 And also I want to couple that with the fact that her dad owns 770 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,360 like a or works for a production company. 771 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,840 And so she knew like how to bring she knew connect and you 772 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,440 know what I'm saying? Can't. 773 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,120 Yeah. And I'm like in shape before 774 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,200 that she even produced like little like vlogs or whatever, 775 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,200 which I think got her more notoriety. 776 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,800 But I just think it's like interesting that like, you know, 777 00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:18,040 it's not that I don't think these people are successful in 778 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,880 their own right. Obviously they are, but it's 779 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,680 just like it's not being good isn't always just enough. 780 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,080 And I think that's some really sad thing that like, yeah, might 781 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,080 just perpetuate itself with social media. 782 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,200 I think already has. But anyways, that's my rant. 783 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,440 Well, we've really derailed. Well, not really derailed. 784 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,720 I think this I could go on and on about the topics of, you 785 00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:46,280 know, celebrities and influencers in the business of 786 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:53,960 it, but it's really deep hole. I don't know, but you guys 787 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,120 should join us if you we've been going live. 788 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:01,120 So I'm on TikTok. Yeah, that's really going to get 789 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,920 us. Guys we like aren't going to do 790 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,480 the yachting thing, but the TikTok lives are really you. 791 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,320 Know we we draw the line at yachting, but if you're a 792 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,840 billionaire and you want to join our TikTok live and give us our 793 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,880 start, then you know we'll see you there. 794 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,400 Thanks for listening to our rant about influencers, celebrities 795 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,560 and random ass business topics. We'll see you all next week. 796 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,840 Thanks for listening. Drop any ideas you may have or 797 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,960 want to hear about in our link tree. 798 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:28,880 Thanks.