1 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,600 Hello everyone, welcome to the iconic Doll cast. 2 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,920 My name is Sage, your host. Welcome back to another episode 3 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,320 all about dolls. Thank you guys so much for 4 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,920 listening. Before we get into this week's 5 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,880 episode, I just want to give a quick shout out to last week's 6 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,520 episode with Sam all about American Girl. 7 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,920 That episode has done really well and I loved seeing and 8 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,560 hearing all your responses and the conversation around it. 9 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,400 So thank you so much for listening, sharing and 10 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,360 supporting. It really means a lot. 11 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,320 I'm so glad you guys liked it. Now for today's episode, I am 12 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,800 joined by Ricardo, also known as Lonely dot Doll under score on 13 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,840 Instagram. And we're getting into all sorts 14 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,040 of things when it comes to dolls and doll collecting, from our 15 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,000 personal journeys to the dolls that really shape our 16 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,960 collections. There is a big focus on Barbie, 17 00:01:19,960 --> 00:01:23,280 which I know you guys love. We also have a really 18 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,720 interesting conversation about what is like doll collecting 19 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,560 outside of the United States and how things like tariffs, of 20 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,240 course are impacting collectors globally right now, which is 21 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,280 something we talk about a lot kind of in passing, but we 22 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,960 really get into it in this chat. So I think you guys are going to 23 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,400 like it. We get into the current state of 24 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,680 the doll world, including why Monster High dolls continue to 25 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,440 be such a strong competitor to Barbie. 26 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,640 And we also talk a little bit about the new My seen dolls and 27 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,280 how the newer releases really compare to the originals. 28 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,760 And of course, we're also going to talk about customizing dolls, 29 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:06,120 restoring dolls, the pain of a rerouting, if you know you know, 30 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,840 and even a little bit about the role that AI might start to play 31 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:14,280 in the future of the doll and toy industry, both positive and 32 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,120 negative. Mostly negative, but I do think 33 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,840 there are some positive aspects to AII think it's something that 34 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,360 we can't escape. So we're definitely going to be 35 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,920 talking about that. Thank you guys so much for 36 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:28,240 listening. As always, follow me on 37 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,800 Instagram at Iconic Doll cast or Britney Spears custom dolls. 38 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,360 Please subscribe to my YouTube channel and here is my chat with 39 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,200 Ricardo. All right everyone, today I have 40 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,640 Ricardo on the show and we are going to be talking all about 41 00:02:43,640 --> 00:02:47,880 dolls, of course, and Ricardo is chatting with us all the way 42 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,720 from Germany, which is super cool. 43 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,240 Ricardo, how are you? Hi, I'm good. 44 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,160 Nice to see you finally. Yes, I'm doing pretty good. 45 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,920 I just, I had a busy day at work, but I'm so excited we got 46 00:03:01,920 --> 00:03:05,120 our time, our time differences figured out because this worked 47 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,960 out perfectly. Yes, it's quite a good bridge, I 48 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,320 would say. I I don't know what time is for 49 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,640 you right now. Right now it is 2, about two in 50 00:03:15,640 --> 00:03:17,840 the afternoon. Oh, OK, yeah. 51 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,800 And for you, it's like 10 at night, right? 52 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,680 Yeah, but no problem, no. Problem. 53 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,840 It's Saturday, Yes. It's Saturday and talking about 54 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,280 dolls. I can anytime so. 55 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,680 Good, I'm so excited. So how long have you been 56 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,920 collecting dolls? Well, actually I never stopped 57 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:43,000 because you know, I had to or play with dolls ever since I was 58 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,360 very young. I think because I've assist an 59 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:55,800 older sister and older cousin and someday I figured out I I 60 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,640 prefer playing with them and their toys. 61 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,520 And then eventually I got my own dolls. 62 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,960 So that's my whole journey as a child. 63 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:08,840 And then when I realized, OK, now I'm too old to play with 64 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,880 Barbie or with other fashion dolls in general, I still had 65 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,399 interest. So I still like, especially in 66 00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:21,720 the late 2000s when there were very gimmicky dolls with some, 67 00:04:21,959 --> 00:04:26,480 you know, funky electronical gimmicks or something. 68 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,320 I thought, OK, I, I'm too old, but I want to know how this 69 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:31,880 works or I want to play with that. 70 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:36,720 That's so fun. Like there's this Alina Ferrito 71 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,120 at all. That's basically a remote 72 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,520 control for your TV so you can play a DVD game. 73 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:46,040 And I thought, I don't care. I'm 12 or 13. 74 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,320 I, I want to play that, of course. 75 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:56,520 So, and there was an easy transition from being or growing 76 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:03,360 up with Barbie to OK, I kind of collected and then early on I 77 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,440 educated myself, especially with Barbie doll and, and the history 78 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:12,040 and discovered the whole vintage and mod era and I was very 79 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,400 hooked with that. So my whole life I dedicated to 80 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,640 dolls. I'd love that MO Me too. 81 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,520 So that's great. It's great to have that 82 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,120 connection, right? So growing up like you as a 83 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,920 young boy, did you have any issues with, I ask everyone this 84 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,600 question? I always start off with a bang. 85 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,880 Were there any issues in your household about you playing with 86 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,920 dolls? I would say I was privileged 87 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:40,680 enough to be able to play with dolls or to even have some. 88 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:46,000 My parents weren't happy they they were in it wasn't my 89 00:05:46,280 --> 00:05:52,320 favorite hobby of theirs. And I would say also a 90 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,720 financially thing because Barbie used to be always very 91 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,960 high-priced or any Mattel product is very expensive. 92 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:05,600 So if I was able to have a doll, it was one of the very budgety 93 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:11,600 dolls like the chic Barbie dolls and but especially I did not 94 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,760 have or my family did not have quite a problem with. 95 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,360 I even remember my brother once playing with me with my dolls, 96 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,600 which always ended in a disaster because either I cried or or a 97 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:31,080 doll broke or both. And my grandparents are pretty 98 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:32,720 supportive. They were like, oh, I like to 99 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,880 stall in the bottle for you, something like that. 100 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,720 And my parents were rather like, oh, don't you think it's kind of 101 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,240 embarrassing walking around with dolls? 102 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,000 And like, I don't care. I never cared about. 103 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:50,240 Like, never cared about, you know, this typical gender 104 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,040 stereotypes of girls have to do that and boys have to do them. 105 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,720 Like I never cared about that, so I personally didn't care. 106 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,560 Well, that's great. No, I mean, on this show I 107 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,400 talked to people who have everyone has a different 108 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,120 experience, right? But though that's great. 109 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,720 And I was, I was very lucky as a kid. 110 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,120 Like my grandparents didn't care. 111 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,120 So they just bought me dolls all the time. 112 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,480 But I definitely was asked quite a few times, not even by them, 113 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,840 but like by my peers. Like are you ever embarrassed to 114 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,200 have this here at school? And I'd always just be like, no, 115 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,200 are you like what? Because I mean, especially in 116 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:32,520 the kindergarten times, the girls were pretty amazed that a 117 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,320 boy would play inside with them with dolls, but outside in the 118 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,960 dirt as well. So it lead to great friendships 119 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,120 as well. Of course, of course. 120 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,000 So what kind of like, what kind of dolls do you collect? 121 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,200 I know you love Barbie, but what else do you get into? 122 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:53,880 Basically, not that I'm like the Mattel fan girl, but I liked a 123 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,640 lot of Mattel lines, doll lines, like next to Barbie. 124 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,000 Of course, my scene was a big thing for me. 125 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:05,880 I liked other lines like the thousand faces or the Diva 126 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,800 stars. As a kid, I never was able to 127 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:13,440 get some as a collector. I got some, of course, because I 128 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,040 thought like, OK, now it's the time. 129 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:21,600 I have adult money and next to Barbie as a collector, I do have 130 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:27,440 quite a lot of Monster High and with once I I got pretty late or 131 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:31,360 the the interest really was a slow process because I think 132 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,720 same to you. You once told that they don't 133 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,400 really appeal to you like or the aesthetics. 134 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:42,360 And with G1, I remember they were everywhere in their peak. 135 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:47,800 And I thought about, OK, these are like small girl corpses. 136 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,160 What, what are they supposed to be? 137 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:56,440 And later on, when I discovered, especially on YouTube, the the 138 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:02,240 whole customization or doll customization, then I, I started 139 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:07,160 learning and appreciating the artistry behind or the doll 140 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,360 making behind Monster High. And I thought, oh, that's really 141 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,240 cool. And then I got into the law and 142 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:15,640 into the story and yeah, these are the daughters of some of the 143 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,200 famous monsters. And I thought, OK, that's kind 144 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,520 of cool. And what, what else do I got? 145 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,280 I have some breads. I have integrity toys. 146 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:31,440 But I paused my membership for a while now, which could be a 147 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,480 reason with terrorists. You know, this is a current 148 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:41,440 issue with US collectors, you know, in Europe, and maybe not 149 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:46,080 even the terrorists, but the whole transfer because getting 150 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,920 an Integrity Toys doll to my house costs as much as the doll 151 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:54,160 itself. So that's an issue for me in 152 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,120 this economy. I was going to ask you because 153 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,440 like, I, I've had a few international guests on before 154 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,000 and I, I always, I always ask like, is it difficult for you to 155 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,840 get a lot of these or are they, I, I just don't understand, like 156 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,680 are they, are they mass produced in Germany the way they are in 157 00:10:09,680 --> 00:10:13,560 the United States? They aren't as present as they 158 00:10:13,560 --> 00:10:17,360 used to be. I remember in the late 90s and 159 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:23,840 2000s, they had even the collector editions, especially, 160 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,680 I think even holiday dolls. I don't remember that vividly. 161 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:34,520 But now we used to have until like the late 2000 tens in 162 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,880 bigger department stores. They were like a huge Barbie 163 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,440 collectors or Barbie signature shelves. 164 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,280 But it all got removed because I think Mattel didn't want to pay 165 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,440 for, you know, the space anymore. 166 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,440 So everything moved to online. OK. 167 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:55,960 Especially, you know, Mattel creation and even with I would 168 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,720 say Playline is quite accessible. 169 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:03,360 It really depends because especially Mattel or even Brad's 170 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:08,160 MGA is really hard accessible here, but they are much smaller. 171 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,200 I mean they're a private company, unlike Mattel, they 172 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,160 don't have shareholders and all that. 173 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,800 I basically I never see Brad's, you know, no. 174 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,800 Interesting. Yeah, I've always just wondered 175 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,120 how that all works because I know, I know everything is 176 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,040 manufactured outside of the United States. 177 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,120 But it seems like obviously the United States is the biggest 178 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,920 market for some of these dolls. But obviously I have found, 179 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:33,320 like, so many collectors that are in Germany and Spain and 180 00:11:33,680 --> 00:11:36,120 Australia. And it's just like, crazy to me 181 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,480 because I see you. I mean, you have tons of dolls 182 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:39,760 and you get a lot of the new ones. 183 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,320 I lurked it on your page, you know, and I'm like, how does he 184 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,280 get all of those? And I was just wondering if it 185 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,600 was at all difficult sometimes to find some of those. 186 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,200 Yes, I mean I think even I I mentioned it before the the 187 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:55,880 terrorists maybe it is advantage for us in Europe because Mattel 188 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,080 started the German Mattel Creations website so we can 189 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,040 order there. But it's very a mishmash because 190 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:07,680 they don't drop anything new. They have not every release is 191 00:12:07,680 --> 00:12:12,960 there, but I still can buy off the US website. 192 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:19,400 So that works if it's something like a chase doll that is Target 193 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:25,800 exclusive, that's that's a whole different story because then I'm 194 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:30,080 really lucky to have friends over in the states to ask them 195 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,000 though. Well, can you take an eye for 196 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,920 me? Or, you know, or sometimes I, 197 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,920 but I really avoid it or I highly don't recommend it. 198 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,520 Don't buy it from scalpers on off eBay. 199 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,000 Oh yeah. It's not worth plastic isn't 200 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,480 worth it to pay triple the price. 201 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:53,120 I know it's hard. I know it's sometimes you, you 202 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,920 just want to get your hands on it. 203 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,960 And it's not because I, I've been there. 204 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,520 I've paid Scopus myself way before. 205 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,120 It was way before Mattel Creations was a thing and I 206 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,040 couldn't import stuff from there. 207 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:14,920 So I was dependent on eBay. But nowadays, at least, it has 208 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,960 gotten easier. I really miss just retail 209 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:23,360 shopping, like being in the stores and having the decision 210 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,840 right on the spot. Like OK, I want to take this at 211 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,440 home and I have it immediately. Totally. 212 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,000 Does Germany have like an equivalent of Target? 213 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,920 Like what would you say is like your Target store? 214 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,280 Not really anymore, we still have that concept. 215 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:43,040 I remember Target or even Walmart even tried to have a 216 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,200 German branch over here, but it didn't work. 217 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,640 And we have similar stores like that, I would say, but much 218 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,680 smaller. They they have, you know, 219 00:13:54,680 --> 00:13:59,960 everything from groceries to Home Depot from toys. 220 00:13:59,960 --> 00:14:04,640 But I feel like even electronics, all of that, but a 221 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:10,600 lot of them shut down. I think especially here in 222 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,800 Germany, it's retail is a very hard business right now because 223 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,440 of the Internet. Well, of course, I mean, 224 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,720 everyone's going online, which has been the kind of a difficult 225 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,960 thing for and I'm sure it's difficult for you because as a 226 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,560 doll collector, it's so much easier and nicer to look at what 227 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,600 you're buying before you buy it. Because we know, especially with 228 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:33,840 Mattel, you know, quality control is not always the best 229 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:38,000 when it comes to Mattel. So, you know, I've definitely 230 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,840 ordered a few dolls and gotten some dolls with wonky eyes or, 231 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,720 you know, something wrong with the package. 232 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,600 So that's got to be tough. Going back a little bit, you 233 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,440 were talking about Monster High and I, what's so funny is like 234 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,120 I've done a few episodes on Monster High. 235 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,800 I know all about Monster High, but I think like up until 236 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,160 recently and I, I would have never really considered them of 237 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:04,720 a legit competitor with Barbie. However, I've come to realize in 238 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,160 more recent years, like Monster High is definitely like right up 239 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,640 there with Barbie. I mean, they're still going. 240 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,160 I feel like there is constantly new Monster High products and 241 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,440 it's just something I never, I guess just because it was, it's 242 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,080 not something that I really collect. 243 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,800 It's just been really incredible watching that brand like 244 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,280 continue on and it's, I mean, obviously that brand is making a 245 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,480 lot of money because it's like, I feel like every week there's a 246 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,960 new Monster High doll. Yes, that's true. 247 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:36,560 There's like I I'm kind of glad that for now I'm exclusively 248 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:41,360 into the playline dolls because the whole collector ones, they 249 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,840 didn't appeal to me. Maybe it's because, you know, 250 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:51,320 similar to you, you like, or I like to, I like celebrity dolls 251 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:57,480 or dolls of certain musicians, but I'm not really into toys 252 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:02,720 that are licensed based on, you know, horror movies or something 253 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:04,920 like that. So that doesn't really appeal to 254 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,960 me. So the host collector line isn't 255 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:13,040 for me, luckily. But yeah, I agree, Monster High 256 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,480 is still doing great. I think they realized that 257 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,200 Monster High is a great IP they can use and especially with the 258 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:21,840 license, like I'm not against it. 259 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:26,560 I get it. It's like kind of the money 260 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,960 printing itself. So of course they they should do 261 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,160 it. And especially compared with 262 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:36,760 Barbie, if you see the new Generation 3 dolls, I feel like 263 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:41,160 they keep they keep a good standard of quality. 264 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,320 So I'm appreciating that. Did you get the Barbie one? 265 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,640 No. You didn't I, I wasn't going to 266 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,840 get I, I didn't because it was like it was like $75.00. 267 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,600 So I was like, I'm not going to get it. 268 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,280 But I ended up getting it for Christmas and like that I only 269 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,720 have like two other Monster High dolls. 270 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,800 So I was like, oh, that's kind of, I thought she was pretty. 271 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,560 I was like, well, this is actually pretty cool. 272 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,960 I haven't, I haven't opened her or anything, but I just, I just 273 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,200 wanted to mention that because I know you like Monster High and 274 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,480 it's just something that I have like slowly learned is actually 275 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:16,079 like a super legit brand that is very competitive with Barbie. 276 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,800 Yes, and it kind of guided me into the doll customization. 277 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,440 So yes, a big part of mine as well. 278 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,720 Not just Monster High, Barbies as well. 279 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,960 And yeah, experimenting with them. 280 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,880 But I feel Monster High is really open to experiment with. 281 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,800 They have funky colors and big features and it's fun to 282 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,120 experiment with them. Yeah, they're cool. 283 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,440 I think it's a really cool concept and it's just really 284 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,320 neat that they've continued to keep moving product for sure. 285 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,600 Also, I think an interesting link. 286 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,360 Did you ever know, of course, the creator of Monster High, 287 00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:54,200 Garrett Zandler. But did you know that very early 288 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,320 the my Scene designer Lily Martinez was involved? 289 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,880 No, I didn't. Basically designed the base like 290 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:07,680 the aesthetic of the face and how the body was used to be like 291 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,840 this. Very stylized kind of grunchy 292 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,640 style. She, she has it online on her 293 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:19,760 TikTok and I thought it was very interesting because I'm so much 294 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:24,520 into Monster High and I'm very, I love the motel designers and 295 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,400 there's some I would say I'm I'm friends with online and really 296 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,000 appreciate that and I'm designer myself. 297 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:35,400 I don't do product design, but I can't appreciate cool design and 298 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,320 aesthetics. And I really love Lily 299 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,160 Martinez's work, especially for Barbie. 300 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,600 My scene. And then right before she 301 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:48,520 dropped Mattel, then what she left behind for Monster High. 302 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,600 So. With those my scene dolls, I, 303 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,920 I've been pretty OK because obviously my scene that Mattel 304 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,360 is pushing out my scene dolls again and it's kind of like 305 00:18:56,360 --> 00:18:59,960 reproductions, if you will. And I, I was just curious as 306 00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:02,080 what, what are your thoughts? I haven't talked to anyone about 307 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,760 these yet. What are your thoughts on like 308 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,960 the newer Mycene dolls? Do they compare with the old 309 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,160 ones? What do you what do you think 310 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,680 about that? I might be the wrong person for 311 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,160 that because I'm very biased because I love them. 312 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:19,880 I, I can see they aren't perfect, You know, I can see 313 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,880 that people have critiques on them, but I've read things like, 314 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,760 Oh yeah, Madison would never wear that. 315 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,480 And I'm like, you see, she's wearing it. 316 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:34,040 So obviously she is wearing it. But I love them. 317 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,960 I love that it is an interpretation of the original. 318 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:42,800 It's not just reproduction because let's face it, you can 319 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:47,400 go online on let's say eBay and you can buy the first wave 320 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:52,600 editions of my scene form like between thirty, 40-50 bucks 321 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,800 each. So they aren't like as highly 322 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,160 desired as, you know, the first generation Monster High maybe. 323 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:04,560 And I like the new ideas they brought into it. 324 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,320 I really appreciate the designer, the Javier Miabe as 325 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,560 well, who who designed the newer ones. 326 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,600 They so far we have two waves, you know, we have the three main 327 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:19,800 girls and then the second wave, which is like they even improved 328 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:24,720 it in my way, in my opinion, because the aesthetics. 329 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,320 They're really cool, the colours are really cool. 330 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:32,520 We got the 2 characters Noli and Jai and Design Vice. 331 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:37,360 They they were really appealing to me and you, you know, they 332 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:40,560 aren't perfect. Like, OK, I changed their 333 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,120 hairstyles, I changed a little bit in on their faces. 334 00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:47,720 I painted some things. I there they would more appeal 335 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,560 to me. So but I still appreciate that 336 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,640 they even brought back a second wave because I didn't expect 337 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,280 that. Let's face it, let's face it, I 338 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,880 don't think they sell well. They the the price is very 339 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:08,080 harsh. It's it's a bit of a bummer even 340 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:12,480 for the fact that it's just a base doll with one outfit and 341 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,920 not a second outfit, which was a big like it was that gimmick for 342 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,800 my scene. And even that's actually 343 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,840 convinced my mother for liking my scene over Barbie because 344 00:21:24,360 --> 00:21:30,040 they weren't the pink aesthetic. They were more like, you know, 345 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:35,040 Barbie is for me like this big personas like, Oh my God, she is 346 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,240 incredible. In my scene, I saw myself. 347 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,680 Oh my God, I want to wear that. That's very trendy. 348 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,320 I I would definitely agree with that. 349 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,440 I think, I think with the My Scene dolls, like I've never, I 350 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,240 don't have really a preference on them. 351 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,000 I don't really have a thought on them. 352 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,640 I think that the dolls look cool. 353 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,040 Like they're definitely they they definitely separate 354 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,440 themselves from Barbie very well. 355 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,800 And I have also heard that they're not selling that well, 356 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,040 which I was so shocked when we when they announced that they 357 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,720 were doing the second wave, which is fine, which is great. 358 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,000 You know, especially for people who collect that. 359 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,880 For me, it was just the timing with everything I think Bratz is 360 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,480 about is having a a serious moment right now. 361 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,080 So of course Mattel is going to reintroduce my scene at this 362 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,640 time. And I don't, I, I think, I think 363 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:28,160 now more than ever, Mattel is threatened by so many other 364 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,640 things. And it seems like they're just 365 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,880 throwing out a lot of of stuff that just isn't like competing 366 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,920 well. And I, I wouldn't even, I mean 367 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,120 my scene dolls, whatever. But you can talk about the 368 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:39,680 clueless Barbies that they put out. 369 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,360 It's just they, it didn't, it didn't do shit compared to 370 00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:46,440 Bratz, you know what I mean? And I think, I think to me it's 371 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,000 very, it seems like they're panicking a little bit. 372 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,480 To me it seems like Mattel is panicking a little with these 373 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,280 rerelease because it doesn't seem to be going well for them. 374 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,680 Probably, I think they they aren't in danger. 375 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:04,040 They wouldn't shut down the company, not not in their not in 376 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:09,280 their heights, not at all. But I feel like, yeah, I cannot 377 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,000 really tell. Like I don't have comparisons 378 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:18,560 like who sold and in fact more dolls, but I feel like OK fans 379 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:26,080 or collectors really appreciated Brad's, especially last year 380 00:23:26,360 --> 00:23:29,280 what way more for what they delivered. 381 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:34,320 And even I didn't get any of the Clueless or Mean Girls dolls 382 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,520 because like I said, I'm not into IP. 383 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:42,680 So, but Brad's just proved that with the same pricing or the 384 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,440 same retail price, they can deliver much more. 385 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,000 And even it's just the packaging. 386 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:54,000 And when when we see Barbie is leading into the OK, we're doing 387 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,080 AI packaging and Brad's or MGA in general. 388 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,320 MGA is like, OK, we have this whole ingenuity of cool 389 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:06,120 packaging with cool graphics. It's a complete different level. 390 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,880 Right, It's it's just been crazy to watch. 391 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,720 I just because obviously Mattel is never going anywhere. 392 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,640 Barbie is never going anywhere. But I think they're so used to 393 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,680 being the, you know, Barbie is always the best selling doll all 394 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,760 the time. And honestly, I don't think that 395 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,680 that is going to be the case in the next few years. 396 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,560 And I'm sure she'll go back on top eventually, you know, But I 397 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,280 just think Bratz is having a moment, I think, you know, and, 398 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,960 and what else is interesting. It's like also Monster High is 399 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,800 still a Mattel brand. And it's interesting to see how 400 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,560 they're maybe sort of starting to accept the fact that some of 401 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,400 their other other products might sell better than Barbie. 402 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,760 It's just been really interesting. 403 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,960 I don't know. What would you classify as your 404 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,000 favorite doll of all time? That's always a hard question. 405 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:59,640 I think I would go to Barbie and you can get me any doll with the 406 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:04,040 stuffy face and I'm there and down for her and I'm like, OK, 407 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,480 my Melody, Hello Kitty mage, whatever. 408 00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:13,800 I will classify all of them. These are, I cannot pinpoint one 409 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:19,680 single doll, but like this is, this is my these are my holy 410 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,640 grace, I would say. Steffi mold so is so cute. 411 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,000 I love it as well. What? 412 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,360 This is a very general question and it's it's a lot deeper than 413 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,000 I think people would would guess. 414 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,560 But like, what do dolls mean to you? 415 00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:37,640 But they do mean to me it's like a question. 416 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:47,000 They are creativity as a child or even as an adult, if you do a 417 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:53,400 cool Britney Spears inspired outfit for them or you try some 418 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,600 makeup skills or whatever like that. 419 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:02,840 They are kind of an escapism because you can dive into the 420 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:08,160 world. And I mean, many of dolls or 421 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,920 yeah, they came with some kind of back story or some kind of 422 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:18,040 media and which is always a whole selling point for dolls or 423 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,000 for toys in in general. So you can consume it while 424 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:28,120 you're having it at home. Like like your grails and what 425 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:31,160 else? Yeah, it's basically like the 426 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:36,560 escapism and especially in the eye of a designer, it's very 427 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,000 appealing for your eyes. I like looking at pretty things 428 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,880 so. Of course, And I think Barbies 429 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,880 whole thing and dolls in general, I mean, without dolls, 430 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,480 like I don't even know what I would be doing with my life. 431 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,880 I feel like it opened up so many, so many things for me 432 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,080 because like you said, I mean, I spent hours as a kid redressing 433 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,200 my Barbies and cutting up my Barbies clothes and trying to 434 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,560 make things look more how I wanted them to. 435 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,760 And I think it's it's something. And I'm going to ask you this 436 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,480 question next about being an adult, an adult collector. 437 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,120 But I think it had, it really shaped me and obvious, I mean, 438 00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:16,040 obviously it shaped me, you know, and the escapism is also a 439 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,160 really good, a good example. It's like sometimes I just like, 440 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,680 don't I sometimes I just want to disconnect from the world and go 441 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,480 chill in my doll room, you know, And as an adult, as an adult 442 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,240 doll collector who is also like very on social media, do you 443 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,840 ever feel judgement from people? I don't know what it's like in 444 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,040 Germany. So I don't know, You know, for 445 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,320 me, I'm and you've listened to the show. 446 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,120 So I, I've talked about this a few times. 447 00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:47,600 Like I feel, I'm 35 and I feel now more comfortable than ever 448 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,040 where it's kind of like I've really stopped having to like 449 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:57,000 justify all that I do to people and like all of the things that 450 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,640 I collect and the things that I like. 451 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,120 I used to be like, I wouldn't say insecure about it because 452 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:04,160 I've never been insecure, but I've been kind of like shy about 453 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,160 it. And I'm at a point where I, I 454 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,440 don't care anymore. And So what, what as an adult 455 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,120 collector, what's that like for you? 456 00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:13,400 Do you ever feel judgement from people? 457 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,880 Are your friends and family supportive of having a doll 458 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,720 collection as an adult? Tell me about that. 459 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,040 Yeah, that's really a big part of any collector. 460 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:30,280 But I wouldn't say I I was being judged, at least in my current 461 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:37,400 state when I was younger, since I always was into dolls, I never 462 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:42,120 had like now I do have a dedicated room just where I can 463 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,640 place my dolls. And back then when I was, you 464 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,880 know, in my parents house and then I just had this space, so I 465 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,720 stored them in, in a separate room or in, in the closet and 466 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,440 just pulling them out when I needed them. 467 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,760 But for now, for me now as an adult collector, I, I, I don't 468 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,440 care either. And if someone like asked me 469 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:11,600 about my hobbies, then it might come up or some discover my, my 470 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,920 social media. So they just reach out for me. 471 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,840 Or even if I am having people over and they see what's going 472 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,360 on there, they're quite, they're always interested into it and 473 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,960 keep asking. And then it's a kind of a fun 474 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:35,480 conversation starter because it's still a niche or a unique 475 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,200 hobby. But in times like now, 476 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:44,240 especially since COVID, we're more or it's more normalized 477 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:49,720 that adults having like linked to nostalgia and hobbies that 478 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,440 have to do with the with the childhood or something like 479 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,760 that. I think obviously COVID was a 480 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,960 disaster and horrible, but if it did anything good, it was just 481 00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:04,480 kind of making a lot of unhappy people find their happiness. 482 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,000 And like, I, I talk about this a lot. 483 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,280 Like I think, and it's something that I really had to wrap my 484 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,160 mind around because for me, like I was collecting dolls since I 485 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,440 was a kid and before COVID and then COVID hit and then a lot 486 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:19,920 more people were collecting dolls. 487 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,960 And it was very, I, I mean, just being honest, Like I, it was a 488 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,560 very weird thing for me to see people just like randomly get 489 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,000 into dolls where it's like, yeah, but weren't you like, 490 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,160 weren't you kind of judging me before this? 491 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,800 I don't know. But I will say, I think I, I 492 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,960 always say that I think people who judge people in general are 493 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,560 just unhappy people. And if, if Covad did anything 494 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,520 positive, it was just kind of make people realize like, wow, 495 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,800 it is nice to be happy and buy things like this for myself, you 496 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,000 know, And maybe it is. I think it's made dog collecting 497 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,920 as adults a lot more. It's still very niche like you 498 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,160 said, but it's a lot more common and it's a lot like there's a 499 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,440 lot less disrespect on that, I think like thinking people are 500 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,560 more interested than ever in like me and my collection. 501 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,360 So, I mean, that's pretty cool, right? 502 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,840 Yes, I think for now we we're facing less of, you know, a 503 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,920 raised eyebrow or something. It's more like interest or 504 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,040 people are like, oh, wow, you're a male dog collector. 505 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,200 How how is that or how does that work? 506 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:31,960 Like when the Barbie movie was happening, I had because of my 507 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,320 social media, I had it sounds weird. 508 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,880 It's Barbie summer was such a weird but also a cool thing. 509 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:47,400 But I had TV networks knocking my door and newspapers and 510 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,320 podcasts and radio stations asking, oh, yeah. 511 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,240 But tell us about your collection. 512 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,640 Tell us about how you do restorations of dolls or 513 00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,160 customizations. And fun fact, I was once 514 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,400 interviewed by the German newspaper that introduced Bill 515 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,160 Lilly. Oh, wow. 516 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:10,840 Ancestor from, from Barbie. And, and because it is such a 517 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,440 controversial paper, at first wasn't sure if I'm going to do 518 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,200 it, but it turned out pretty cool. 519 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,600 And it was a nice conversation too. 520 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:26,240 So there was a lady coming here and she was very like any of 521 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,520 journalists that have been here. They come inside and they're 522 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,480 like, OK, wow. They're like, OK, this is real. 523 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,080 Yeah, I'll go for sure. That's amazing. 524 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,880 That's incredible. You mentioned it a few times. 525 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,280 So let's talk about your customizing and all the stuff 526 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,560 that you're restores. Like what do you get into with 527 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,080 that? Because I love restoring a 528 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,120 Barbie. I think it's fun. 529 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:56,360 I don't do repainting, but I think it's a very cool skill 530 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,560 that people have. So tell me a little bit about 531 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,360 that. It is indeed very cool and I 532 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,080 still admire it, especially on YouTube. 533 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,280 This is how I discovered it. I discovered first with Monster 534 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,800 High and then that people do with Barbie dolls and other 535 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,880 dolls as well. All the repaint and the 536 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,240 restoration. Yeah, the, the doll 537 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,120 restorations. I think it was, you know, 538 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,280 something like during COVID as well. 539 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,200 I am having time. I I was bored, so I tried just 540 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,760 doing it for me. I would say I'm still learning 541 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,960 and I'm still open to learn. It's in any arts and crafts. 542 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:42,000 You, you always have more improvement And, but thanks to 543 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,440 YouTube, I learned all the things like what do you need? 544 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,120 What tools do you need to do all of that? 545 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,000 And then at some point I just hang with that. 546 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:57,160 And I tried it and then for some time, I got pretty comfortable 547 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,320 with repainting Monster High. And I'm not like a garment 548 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,280 maker. I did some or I tried to sew 549 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,880 some dresses for Barbie or for any dolls and and like really 550 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:14,159 not great. So I sticking to hair and makeup 551 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,760 and and that's fine for me too. It's like putting them in drag 552 00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:21,080 so I don't have to put myself in drag. 553 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,760 Totally. I would say I'm like I've, I 554 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,800 think I'm more of a garment maker than anything. 555 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,280 And I don't really, I mean, like you said, I, you can learn how 556 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,120 to do anything on YouTube. And I will say like with the 557 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:37,120 Britney Spears custom dolls, like truly, I have no idea what 558 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,280 I'm doing. Like I, I just am trying things 559 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,040 out and I feel very lucky because Britney Spears, her 560 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,360 whole aesthetic is a very arts and crafts look, you know, so it 561 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,600 really translates onto the dolls really well. 562 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:55,440 And what I like most about her, her, her style is that, I mean, 563 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,880 I never copy anything. Like I never watched something 564 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,720 and I'm like, I'm going to make it exactly like that. 565 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,680 And the, the great thing about Britney Spears is you don't have 566 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,600 to because you can still like mix things up and you'll still 567 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,560 know exactly what, what it is. So that's been really fun for 568 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,280 me. I don't like repainting. 569 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,560 Luckily, I think Britney Spears has a great doll. 570 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,240 So I don't really need to get into that. 571 00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:20,400 I've tried a couple times. I just don't have like a steady 572 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,280 enough hand for it. I guess I just I'm not, I'm not 573 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,600 an artist in that way. Like I, I don't know how to do 574 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,680 makeup. Like I don't know, I don't know 575 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,000 anything about that. But do you do re? 576 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,880 Do you do re rooting? Do re root their hair? 577 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,120 Sometimes I it's not my favorite thing to. 578 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,960 Oh God, me. Especially with especially with 579 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,520 getting the resources of hair, hair is a whole topic by itself. 580 00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:51,920 But I mean, now in Europe we have some sellers that are 581 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,200 offering like quality Saran hair. 582 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,880 And as sometimes I'm I'm just really cheap with my resources. 583 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:04,200 So I just cut off old wigs or yeah, something like that. 584 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:11,640 I just really re rude if I have to, if I need a certain hair 585 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,480 color, but I don't I don't really like it. 586 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:20,600 Like for example, I have a really really busted and bold 587 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:26,200 Malibu Barbie and I never do something with her because I 588 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,800 don't want to buy the hair and I don't want to rude her. 589 00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:33,000 I'd be scared to I I don't think I've ever rerouted anything 590 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,480 older than a Britney Spears. Oh no, that's all I've done. 591 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,360 I've done a ton of share dolls from like the 70s but the 592 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,400 plastics are different. They all have bad hair. 593 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,200 Oh my God, so bad. Oh my God. 594 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,520 Britney Spears isn't isn't the Britney Spears dolls having like 595 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,920 this kind of like like the pulley hair that just. 596 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,760 So there is one version of the Britney Spears doll by a company 597 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,360 called Ya Boom. And all of their dolls, they're 598 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,600 the hair and Christine Aguilera, all that they it just 599 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,280 disintegrates. But I will say with the Britney 600 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:10,480 Spears doll, I don't know what kind of hair she has it, it has 601 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,400 its pros and its cons because actually that hair holds really, 602 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,320 really well. So if she has like a super big 603 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,640 hair hairstyle, I will I will sometimes just keep that because 604 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,480 I can just recondition it and then style it and it it just 605 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,280 holds really well. But if she has like a really 606 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,760 straight look then I'll I'll end up rerouting. 607 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,840 I mean no matter what when people get a custom order I 608 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,800 always reroute them. But if I'm just making one for 609 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,800 myself I often don't because I know I've seen that a lot. 610 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,520 People are like oh she has the worst hair and I'm like well you 611 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:47,080 literally just commented 2 tik toks ago that the doll I made 612 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,360 had fantastic hair and that is her original hair. 613 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,840 It holds really well, but like the Cher dolls from like 1976 or 614 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,920 whatever worst hair. That's actually how I learned to 615 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:04,440 reroute is on that doll. But re rooting for me is I do it 616 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,800 so fucking much that like I can't stand it. 617 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,360 And it's so funny when people are like, it's therapeutic for 618 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,640 me and I'm like, yeah, well wait until you do it 1000 times. 619 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,040 Like it's not that fun and. How long does it take it for you 620 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,960 for one head? Like an hour. 621 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,000 That's that's pretty quick. It is pretty quick. 622 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,720 Some really mastered into that craft. 623 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,680 I would definitely say rerouting is a skill that I have. 624 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,160 Like if my life depended on it, I could probably get one done in 625 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,880 like 45 minutes. Sometimes I'm working on 626 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,400 projects and I'm like, oh, that's like the last thing I 627 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,080 need to do and I'm like, it's like 2 in the morning and I'm 628 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,120 like, I'll just fucking do it. Like I'll just do it right now. 629 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,440 I'll just put on like an episode of something and just get it 630 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:48,760 done. I'm pretty quick with it. 631 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,240 But I took a long time. I've been doing this for like 10 632 00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:53,440 years now. And I definitely in the 633 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,120 beginning, like the first shared, all I ever rerouted took 634 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,680 me like 4 days. You know, it's just something 635 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,600 you learned. But it's so like it's so I don't 636 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,480 want to say it's, I don't want to say it's hard, it's tedious, 637 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,000 but it's like you're just doing the same thing over and over and 638 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,680 over and over again. So I definitely like I don't 639 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,320 even have to look at what I'm doing when I'm re routing 640 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,280 anymore. But a lot of people are like, 641 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,560 it's so therapeutic and I'm like, Oh my God, I get so bored. 642 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,760 I get I have to like section off the head sometimes so I can like 643 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,480 keep myself like I'll be like, OK, I'm going to do this this 644 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,560 portion of her head first. And then I'll work on some boots 645 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,120 or something and I'll go back and forth. 646 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,240 But sometimes I'll literally just bust out like four or five 647 00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:38,840 reroutes in a day and then my hands hurt. 648 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,840 But yeah, it is what it is. Depends on the head. 649 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,000 Some are really like not the squishy whino we used to some 650 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:52,200 some are quite hard and then and sometimes we even have to keep 651 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,360 them warm so they're kind of soft. 652 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,560 But no too many inconveniences, so I avoided. 653 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,320 Yeah, fortunately. I mean, I'm just so lucky with 654 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,040 the Britney Spears doll. She's perfect. 655 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,280 Like she her head is squishy. You don't have to keep getting 656 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,320 it like boiling water. You don't have to keep keeping 657 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,600 it warm. But I've definitely dealt with a 658 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,920 couple dolls where I was like shit, like, do you know who 659 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,520 Little Mix is? I'm sure you do. 660 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,520 OK. So they have like notoriously 661 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,920 have like some of the worst dolls ever. 662 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,800 But of course I had to have them and I was like, well, I'm going 663 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,400 to have to reroute them. No big deal. 664 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,200 I paid all this money to import them from the UK and their heads 665 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,720 are like hard as rock. And I literally had every like 666 00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:40,440 10 minutes I had to, I had to boil some water and dip it in. 667 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,920 And I thought was that it kept breaking the needles. 668 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,280 It was like, I was like, I'm never doing this again. 669 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:51,640 I'll just stick with Brittany. Yeah, I once for a friend, she 670 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,560 asked me if I could reboot her child Sailor Marshall from 671 00:40:55,560 --> 00:41:01,000 Sailor Moon, and it was. It wasn't one of the fancier 672 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,560 Bandai ones, it was from a German company and it was a 673 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,400 company dedicated just for a Sailor Moon merchandise. 674 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,920 This is how Big Sailing Wound used to be here. 675 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:17,400 And they made dolls and I had a Sailor Venus of her and you know 676 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,760 they had this awful hair that just disintegrates by just 677 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:27,040 looking at it. And I had to rewrite her and I 678 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,320 don't know, I think I've broken 4 needles on her. 679 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:37,080 And at that point that I specifically for that project, 680 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:42,080 I, I bought a new kit with needles and, and you know, a 681 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,400 better handle. I thought it would be a better 682 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,720 handle because before that I used to have a homemade 1. 683 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:56,680 I just put on on a piece of wood, a needle and I cut off the 684 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,160 the other end so I can just stick your hair. 685 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,040 That's what I do. That's what I do, yes. 686 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:06,200 And it's still the same needle. So I I went back to them, Yeah. 687 00:42:07,720 --> 00:42:11,320 Gosh, and I can't some people do like the knot method, which I'm 688 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,320 like, OK, I could never do that. It's I've tried it once and I 689 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,080 was like, this is fucking ridiculous. 690 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,720 Like it's you're it's not to me. It doesn't even make a 691 00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:24,920 difference to the like final results and props to anyone who 692 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,400 does that because I'm like that has to take. 693 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,480 I don't it just it's such a process, whereas you can with 694 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,800 the way I do, I have like an exacto knife that I I use the 695 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,240 base and I cut the needle and I just, I just pin it in and it 696 00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:41,000 works so well. But yeah, rerouting is 697 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:45,360 definitely one of the the more stressful things on my on my 698 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,200 plate when I'm doing these customs. 699 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,720 One thing you mentioned to me was you wanted to talk about AI 700 00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:55,720 and I've kind of talked about this with a guest before. 701 00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:58,960 I had Darren Sander on. That is Garrett Sanders brother, 702 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,520 exactly because I was I, I was just curious because he's a 703 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,520 package designer and I was like, well, how is like, how is AI 704 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,840 going to affect, you know, package design? 705 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,520 And he he didn't really think it was going to. 706 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:18,000 But I, I have mixed feelings on AI and the usage of it and who 707 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,560 is using it. I think is what is more more 708 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,560 interesting to me and where you know somewhere it might cross 709 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,560 the line. So first you tell me about your 710 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,120 thoughts on AI and then I will tell you mine. 711 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:35,520 Exactly with AII have mixed feelings as well. 712 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:42,840 I'm not fully against it but there's a big but and I am in my 713 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,960 opinion. This is all my opinions. 714 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:53,480 I I'm quite shocked how easily accessible it is for all the 715 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:58,400 things that is capable to do. Especially in we're not even 716 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:04,160 talking about the whole deep faking thing and what else can 717 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:08,600 do or generating fake news something like done. 718 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:17,000 This is a whole other subject, but I think it can be a tool and 719 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:25,520 it can be used in a smart way. But also one big thing we're 720 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:30,720 forgetting is the environment or not forgetting, but many people 721 00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:34,200 don't see it. Like compared to a Google search 722 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,240 or GPT, how much water we're wasting. 723 00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:42,320 Just go down. And I don't judge anyone who 724 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,720 does this because this is a new technology and everyone wants to 725 00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:49,600 jump over, every company wants to jump over to that. 726 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:56,720 And they, yes, they want everyone be current and 727 00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:01,560 especially with the usage in social media or in product 728 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:06,720 design or package design. I am, I'm not the biggest fan of 729 00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:11,160 it because like I said, you can maybe use it as a tool, but 730 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:17,080 maybe not to generate images for people to buy it. 731 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,960 Like especially in packaging, graphics, something like that. 732 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:27,160 Because it's not that. It's not yet on a level I would 733 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,240 say I'm willing to pay for that. OK. 734 00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:32,880 No, no, no, I totally, totally agree with that. 735 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:37,880 I think for me, where it crosses the line and is that I think 736 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:43,200 that big companies like Mattel that can afford graphic 737 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:49,520 designers and you know, they can afford spending time on making 738 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:54,480 real, you know, human made product design. 739 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,840 I think there's no excuse. I think Mattel or MGA or and I 740 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:03,200 can't, I can't say for sure who is and who is not using AI to do 741 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,600 marketing, but I know we're going to start seeing it, you 742 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,480 know, and whether we know it's AI or not like that is the 743 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,440 question because AI is fucking crazy. 744 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,040 But any big scale million trillion dollar company has no 745 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,920 excuse to be doing that because yes, they're wasting they're 746 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,320 they're they're wasting resources and jobs are going 747 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,720 away and everything is just going to fall apart because of 748 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,920 AI AI. So in the end, it's really bad. 749 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:33,560 But I will say for a independent content creator like me who 750 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,280 can't necessarily afford someone, afford to pay someone 751 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:43,760 to design A backdrop or, you know, write out my, you know, 752 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,080 YouTube descriptions and all that stuff. 753 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,880 I think that is fair game because I can't afford to pay 754 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:55,360 someone $600 to design something that ChatGPT could do for me in 755 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,480 10 minutes. And it's not something that I'm 756 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,280 using frequently because I, I honestly don't really know how. 757 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,120 And as far as AI goes, like ChatGPT is where I peek. 758 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,040 Like I don't know anything outside of that. 759 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,760 But I do think, I think it's inevitable that AI is going to 760 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,800 take over everything. And so I, I mean, obviously as 761 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,280 humans, we will learn the effects of that later. 762 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,480 And I don't think they're going to be good, but I think the 763 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:28,280 usage of it could be lessened. And that is by big billion 764 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,600 dollar companies being less lazy, if that makes sense. 765 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,480 I feel like I even have the feeling that the future of AI 766 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:43,480 isn't necessarily just bad or just a negative result in 767 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,880 humanity. We we will see. 768 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:52,920 We cannot tell Yeah, but I feel like it can be used smart or it 769 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,760 should be used in in way different ways. 770 00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,440 We don't need necessarily. I fully understand. 771 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:07,040 OK, if I prompt YouTube description or something like 772 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:13,120 that makes my life easier because maybe I'm not good at 773 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:19,600 what are the best hashtags for whatever or in in a way that you 774 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:25,000 want to create inspiration for what you actually want to 775 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,720 create. But I feel like AI can be much 776 00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:34,200 better be used, you know, in in healthcare or something like 777 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:38,880 they there are improvements in Oh yeah, maybe AI can at some 778 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:45,640 point discover some diseases or cancer much easier than a human 779 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,760 being. And this is a direction I say 780 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:53,360 I'm totally good with that. If it's something like, OK, we 781 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,680 have graphics that are generated based on real art. 782 00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:05,640 This is still something it shouldn't be necessarily 783 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,120 accessible for everyone in my opinion. 784 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,280 And there there should be restrictions. 785 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:16,360 There should be restrictions on who's going to use it and how 786 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:22,240 and how often, and especially restrictions for the sources 787 00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:26,360 they are the AI engines are using for. 788 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,200 Agreed. I agree, but unfortunately I do 789 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,120 think it's something we're going to see more and more and more. 790 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,480 And like I said, I think a lot of it we're not even going to 791 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:43,880 know because AI is so crazy. It evolves so quick, like it is 792 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:50,480 even for us in at work. We are not trained but we were 793 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:55,240 in an education program to learn about AI and how to do Proms and 794 00:49:55,240 --> 00:49:59,600 something like that. But it's really hard to tell 795 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,000 apart. I don't know. 796 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:05,400 Have you ever seen a real or a TikTok where there are two 797 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,560 videos and one is fake and one is real and you have to choose 798 00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:14,800 which one is 1 and it's really hard to tell right now? 799 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,280 I think so. I all I know is like, I'm a 800 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,280 Britney Spears fan. And right now the Britney Spears 801 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,680 fans are so thirsty for new Britney Spears content because 802 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,960 she's not working. And I swear every time I open up 803 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,560 like Twitter or TikTok, there's like some video of her that 804 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,760 looks so real that it's like, OK, this is like she'd never has 805 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,720 to work again. Like she could, they could just 806 00:50:37,720 --> 00:50:42,240 do this for for the rest of, you know, eternity because it looks 807 00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:44,880 so legit. But it freaks me out like I'm 808 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,200 like, and it must. I mean, I can't imagine it 809 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:52,680 wouldn't freak her out like. I I don't know, I I was thinking 810 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:57,800 about they are people on YouTube making whole album concepts with 811 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:02,000 her real voice of new music. And it's like, I don't know if 812 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,200 she would hate it or if she's like, oh, that's cool. 813 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:10,120 You know, the tricky thing about Britney Spears specifically, and 814 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,680 it's so unfortunate. And like, you know, I love her 815 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,960 forever and always. I, I personally don't think 816 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,240 she'll be working ever again. And that's fine. 817 00:51:19,240 --> 00:51:21,800 That's her choice. And that's the whole point of, 818 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,360 you know, all the stuff that Free Britney had to do. 819 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:31,200 But it's also like if she does release music in the future, all 820 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,680 everyone forever, it's always going to be in the back of our 821 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,280 mind. Like is this, do we think this 822 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,760 is AI? It doesn't matter. 823 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,280 It's we're all, it's always good. 824 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,440 It's been ingrained in our brains now. 825 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,280 And like, it's something we're always going to wonder no matter 826 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,800 what. I think this is our future now. 827 00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:54,240 Yeah, No, no matter what, no matter if it's if it's a 828 00:51:54,240 --> 00:52:00,520 magazine shoot or any record, we, we will ask ourselves, is 829 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,360 this real, especially with the state of Britney Spears right 830 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:08,520 now. And if she says or I mean, she 831 00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:12,120 said a couple of times like I will never work again. 832 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,480 And, and I'm like, yeah, that's totally cool. 833 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:20,200 You, you had you have fully rights to never go in in that 834 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,760 business again. Totally. 835 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,400 But you know, people still want to make money off of her, so it 836 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,160 wouldn't shock me if they put out an entire album that was 837 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,320 just all AI of her. It's just really crazy. 838 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,600 And like I said, I think it can be used for good. 839 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,560 I think especially for people who necessarily who can't 840 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:41,160 necessarily afford certain things like it's a ChatGPT is so 841 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,880 helpful, but big corporations should not. 842 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,680 They have access to all of that stuff without having to use AI, 843 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,760 and you know, they're using it way more so. 844 00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:56,600 They shouldn't fire people that are professionals in that craft 845 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,960 and totally if it if, especially if they can afford them. 846 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:06,720 And I feel in even in products. I don't know. 847 00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:13,160 How do you feel about let's just talk about because we know for a 848 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:18,920 fact that they're using the Firefly AI engine for, for their 849 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,480 packaging is for Barbie or Mattel. 850 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:27,960 And I feel like the latest, you know, how they present their 851 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,680 dolls in in the packaging is really not appealing to me, 852 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:38,040 which is which is fine because I used to store the empty packages 853 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,120 in in the ceiling in the basement. 854 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,160 And now I'm just throwing them away because they, they don't 855 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:49,600 look good to me. It's very, you can really tell 856 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:56,720 OK, they they have fired a little too many people that have 857 00:53:56,720 --> 00:54:00,520 an eye or that have an eye for a good packaging. 858 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,280 Oh, for sure. And it's going to, it's all 859 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,720 going to start look, it looks very, it's starting to look very 860 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,720 there's no uniqueness left. It's, I mean, AI is going to 861 00:54:11,720 --> 00:54:17,240 take away any kind of creativeness and like humanness 862 00:54:17,240 --> 00:54:21,120 from these these designs because it's all going to start to look 863 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,120 the same. Yes, it's kind of same. 864 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:29,080 It it lacks of the humanity, it lacks of some personal touch it 865 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:33,680 and especially it lacks of the profession that someone made a 866 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,760 thought of it, like how does it sell well or how is it 867 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:42,520 appealing? Or sometimes just pitching back 868 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:47,400 and forth like this idea or that idea and then coming up with the 869 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,640 best result for it. And I feel like this is totally 870 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:55,840 lacking. It all looks rushed to me, like 871 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,120 I don't know. Have you been into the 872 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:02,000 reintroduction of Barbie Basics that they released last year? 873 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:10,160 I I know about them. Yeah, and I felt like I just 874 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:16,200 bought one of one of the dolls because I wasn't really 875 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,480 interested into them. And especially I, I looked 876 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:24,400 online and then I saw the packaging, I thought, OK, it 877 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,280 really doesn't look good. So I don't feel a desire to get 878 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,760 them. So especially this kind of 879 00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:38,240 packaging when it looks rushed to me or not not good, then it's 880 00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:43,960 a, it's like a big factor for me and maybe a big factor for inbox 881 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,400 collectors as well. But I don't know if many care. 882 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,000 I think I have a different eye for that than maybe other 883 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,600 consumers. I think, you know, maybe, but I 884 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,440 think definitely overtime collectors who are inbox 885 00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,600 collectors are going to see the quality dip in everything. 886 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,200 And I think I think it's a, it's going to be a learning process 887 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:06,320 for everyone really. But honestly, yeah, I, I'm not, 888 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,360 we're not far enough into it now for me to like, say what will or 889 00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:14,280 will not happen because I mean, the other truth is that AI keeps 890 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,080 getting better and better and better. 891 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,040 And it's like, so we'll just have to see. 892 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,160 But I know you wanted to chat about that because I think it is 893 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,560 going to be something that starts affecting toys and dolls 894 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,880 and packaging way more than any of us think. 895 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,240 So we should all be ready for that. 896 00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:34,320 We should, yes. We cannot avoid them and same 897 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,280 for social media. We cannot avoid it there. 898 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:43,280 It's just ask yourself in my opinion or maybe it's even a 899 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,640 fact, but don't don't quote me for that. 900 00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:51,040 If you provide any of your pictures or photos for AI 901 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:57,200 engines for free, so you can generate something else out of 902 00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:02,160 them. I'm not sure if you want to like 903 00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,840 just give them all your information for free, right? 904 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,320 I have the feeling that's the reason why it is so easily 905 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:14,520 accessible because everyone is like, OK, there's a new trend. 906 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:19,240 I, I just recently saw. OK, now people discovered a 907 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:23,560 trend like generating a girlfriend or boyfriend next to 908 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:28,280 themselves and say OK. And so they are providing their 909 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:33,960 own photos, their real photos, to the engines for free for much 910 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,840 more learning. Oh yeah, I mean, that's how an 911 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:38,400 AI is learning. Yeah. 912 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,960 Yeah, we're we're giving, I mean, we're putting, we're 913 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,920 putting it in, we're putting the work in for this AI to take all 914 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,720 of this information and just become like a freaking huge ass 915 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,040 brain. And it's going to be, it's going 916 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,120 to be interesting. That's all I can say. 917 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:59,400 But like I said, Mattel of all companies should not ever 918 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,480 consider using AI because they can. 919 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:05,440 They have the funds to pay someone to do that. 920 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:10,480 So moving, you know, forward just because AI is an intense, 921 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,560 intense topic. I want to get back to dolls. 922 00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,920 What? What are some dolls that are on 923 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,880 your must have list that you don't have yet? 924 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:27,640 You know, I've been thinking about what doll do I really need 925 00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:31,200 because I have so many. I don't know how many I do have, 926 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:40,360 but I feel like I have so much of everything that I yes, I used 927 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:45,840 to have some grail dolls like you know, I really like the 928 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:51,000 haunted beauty line from 2012 ish something. 929 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:57,800 But I feel like, OK, now we have the adolescent Muertos and I can 930 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:02,160 kind of compensate it with that or what else. 931 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:09,800 I really like the some of the historical Barbie dolls like the 932 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:14,280 line when they did Clint and the Mona Lisa. 933 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,080 I think it's it was around the same age, something like that. 934 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:23,120 But I feel like especially with the secondary market, I don't 935 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,560 feel like I want to spend what they are offering. 936 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:31,840 So I'm currently I'm good but who knows maybe I'm craving. 937 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,160 You never know, someday you might wake up and be like, I 938 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,920 really want to buy a Totally Hair Barbie just because I want 939 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,400 1 yes. Someday I have a bad day at work 940 00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:45,760 and like OK today I deserve it. Yes, that's how that's how I 941 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,360 that's how I justify it too. But I will say I also feel like 942 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:53,360 I'm in a very good place with Barbie, at least where it's like 943 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,560 I feel like I have all the Barbies I ever wanted. 944 00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:00,880 And I'm not like, you know, scouring through Facebook 945 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,520 marketplace anymore or eBay for Barbies. 946 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,760 If I, I do a lot of thrifting. So if I see one, I'll get them. 947 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,640 But I have been getting a lot better about leaving dolls 948 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:13,000 behind at the thrift store. I never, I used to just I just 949 01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,080 buy them whatever because they're not, you know, they're 950 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,480 not terribly expensive. It does add up. 951 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,880 But I just feel like, I mean, of course, I'm expecting a Barbie 952 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:22,680 in the mail today. So like, I can't. 953 01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:28,240 I can't say like I'm, you know, totally, you know, over it, but 954 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,120 I do feel I, I'm in a comfortable spot with my Barbie 955 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:35,000 collection at least. So I, I, I don't think there's 956 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,600 really I can't, I can't, I don't have an answer for that 957 01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:39,320 question. I can't think of any dolls that 958 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,720 I that I don't have, no. Matter what line. 959 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,120 Yeah, I don't. I think I'm good. 960 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,520 There's nothing like that screams out to me. 961 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,080 Then I'm like, Oh well, I have to have that, you know, So 962 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,640 that's good. What's the most recent doll you 963 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,640 purchased? I purchased but she's still not 964 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:58,520 there because I got her from mater creations of course. 965 01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:04,600 And it takes you know, sometimes they they are here in within 5 966 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,880 days and sometimes it's like 3 months. 967 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:13,520 You never know. I I just bought the recent style 968 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:18,040 by Andrew Dahl with the superstar face and this is 969 01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,360 something I first I told myself I don't need her. 970 01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:26,400 I have so many superstar Barbie dolls and then I see people 971 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,640 posting her online. I'm like, I like her, so maybe I 972 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:35,880 should get her because first I was telling myself I like the 973 01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:41,400 outfit, but I don't like how the outfit is shaped on her like the 974 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:45,400 this, the long skirt and and the way her jacket was made. 975 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:49,520 It looked to me she has something you would throw over 976 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,440 you when you're in a hospital for some reason. 977 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,720 And then but I saw that you can, you know, mix and match her 978 01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:00,880 outfits and she has this mini dress underneath and and like, 979 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,800 OK, that's kind of cute. So that that's the door I'm 980 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:08,120 expecting next. I love that I didn't get that 981 01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,480 one. That was one where I had to be 982 01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:14,160 like, do I really want to spend $50 on this? 983 01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,680 I don't think so, because that's the other thing they keep 984 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,760 putting. I mean, it's like every couple 985 01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,520 weeks, like there's a new one of these collector dolls and I'm 986 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:22,800 like, I can't. Exactly. 987 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,720 I can't do that. And at some point when you 988 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:29,200 already have $3000 or I don't know how many at home, and then 989 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:33,360 you really think twice. And this is something as a 990 01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:37,800 collector you you will learn about, you know, do I really 991 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,920 need it? Do I do I can afford it right 992 01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:42,400 now? Do I want to spend it? 993 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:47,640 And a lot of my budget still goes into dolls. 994 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,880 So we will see. Same, same, same. 995 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,480 It's a It's a permanent learning curve. 996 01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:59,160 I, I just, there's so many dolls that I have that I've just been 997 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,800 sitting in the same spot in their box and I haven't looked 998 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,960 at them for years. And it's like, eventually I do 999 01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,520 need to go through this shit. And like, I mean, I, and the 1000 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:12,040 good news is like, I think there's money to be made and 1001 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,840 like, you know, cuz most often, you know, depending on which 1002 01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,040 dolls that they are, like, you know, value increases. 1003 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,320 But like, there's so many dolls that I've bought and that 1004 01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,120 literally they were, they're in a stack in the corner and 1005 01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,400 they've just been been there. And I'm like, clearly I wouldn't 1006 01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,040 even notice if someone took that. 1007 01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,800 Like I wouldn't even know. So like, I didn't need it. 1008 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:36,280 Yeah, yeah, exactly. Some sometimes they just hang 1009 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,920 around in the corner, don't you don't even look at that. 1010 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,600 Yeah, that's something. But by the way, since you 1011 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:45,680 mentioned the, the thrift stores, something we're really 1012 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,080 missing here are the big thrift stores you have. 1013 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:54,640 Because I, I see sometimes people in America or in North 1014 01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:58,760 America in general are like making flocks of their thrift 1015 01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,400 store halls. And, and I see the stalls and 1016 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,360 the plastic bags hanging around and they're finding really cool 1017 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,240 stuff. And it's like, why don't we have 1018 01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,840 this year? That's crazy concept. 1019 01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,320 That's crazy. Yeah, I where I live especially, 1020 01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,680 I have 10 thrift stores within like a 15 mile radius. 1021 01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,760 Amazing. And I'm always shocked, like 1022 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,160 because there's so many current dolls, it's, you know, during 1023 01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:26,360 the Rainbow High season when they were at their peak, and 1024 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,240 then sometimes a dog got released and two weeks later 1025 01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,000 they're in those thrift throws. I'm like what? 1026 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,000 Oh, yeah. I, you know, I find already, I 1027 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,920 find like some of the new Barbie besties, like I've seen those in 1028 01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,640 the thrift stores already. I've seen a lot of like the 1029 01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:45,320 Barbie movie dolls in, in the thrift stores because I, you 1030 01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,200 know, I think kids today don't care about toys as much as 1031 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,240 adults do. So a lot of times they'll get 1032 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,480 things as presents or whatever and they don't want it. 1033 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,040 But how? God, there was one doll I saw 1034 01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:59,000 the other day. Oh, the Wicked dolls are already 1035 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:04,120 in thrift stores. I think it's all about micro 1036 01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:08,120 trends as well, or trends that aren't as sustainable as they 1037 01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,640 used to be. And like you said, children 1038 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:14,440 aren't that into toys anymore. Yeah, for sure. 1039 01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,280 That sucks that you guys don't have any thrift stores. 1040 01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:23,000 No, they're flea markets and in my city I went to a couple flea 1041 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:28,440 markets to very different, but it's very it's not really much 1042 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:33,760 toys, maybe maybe Legos or Playmobil, if you know that, but 1043 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:38,680 with dolls now maybe some teddy bears and I have plenty of teddy 1044 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,800 bears, so I'm good with that. But mostly of those flair 1045 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:47,720 markets, it's just OK, we clean out the basement of grandma's 1046 01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,720 and then we make some coins with that. 1047 01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:55,760 Yeah. So it's not really it's fun, but 1048 01:05:56,280 --> 01:06:00,600 most of the time I because it's always in the early mornings. 1049 01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:05,920 So most of the time I just I still sleep so I miss them out. 1050 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,640 Yeah, you got to go early to get the to. 1051 01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:14,040 Get the treasures. Yeah, well, Ricardo, thank you 1052 01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:17,760 so much for coming on and telling me all about your doll 1053 01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,880 journey and chatting with me today. 1054 01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,400 Please let everyone know where they can find you on social 1055 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:27,680 media. I use Instagram, it's at lonely 1056 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,760 dot dot under score. I know it's not the best way, 1057 01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,720 but it is what it is. Well, thank you so much for 1058 01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,640 coming on the show and we will keep in touch. 1059 01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:41,680 Thank you. All right, that was so much fun. 1060 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,200 Thank you, Ricardo so much for coming on the show. 1061 01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,960 I, you know, obviously I love every guest that I have on the 1062 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,000 show, but it really means a lot to me that people around the 1063 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:53,160 world are willing to adjust their schedules to chat with me 1064 01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,320 for the show. So thank you so much for that. 1065 01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,600 I think that conversation was really, really great. 1066 01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,760 Unfortunately, I'm not going to do a doll check in this month. 1067 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,840 I just don't have I just don't have enough time. 1068 01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:08,080 The doll show is is happening on the day that this episode 1069 01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,560 dropped. So I, I will have a different 1070 01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,360 episode for you guys. I think next week. 1071 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,680 If if not, just check on my socials at iconic doll cast. 1072 01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:18,400 I'll have some updates on there for you. 1073 01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:22,000 Things are getting a little crazy busy over here for me, but 1074 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,680 I'm doing the best that I can. Thank you guys so much for 1075 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,080 listening. It means so much to me. 1076 01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,320 Follow me on all the things and I will talk with you guys next 1077 01:07:31,320 --> 01:08:01,680 time. I.