1 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,480 I'm Jessica and this is Devaki Rambles, where a couple of 2 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,680 friends review Korean dramas and we are out of hiatus to talk 3 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,960 about a really big drama that dropped this year. 4 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:28,640 We're going to talk about My Dearest. 5 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:33,680 For this episode, I am joined by Sarai from the K Drama Cafe 6 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,440 podcast. How are you, Sarai? 7 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,400 Sorry. I'm a little squeaky. 8 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,640 Hi, I'm good. Thank you for having me. 9 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,560 We were bonding earlier before we jumped on and we're both 10 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:50,560 really nervous to talk about my dearest I We've been friendly 11 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,120 for so long on social media and I've been following your podcast 12 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,080 and I was like, Sarai, have you watched my dearest? 13 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,320 And you were like, yeah. And I was like, can you come on 14 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,440 and talk about it with me? And you were like, yeah, let's 15 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,280 do it. So I am so glad that this 16 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,960 happened and you were super flexible and could work with me 17 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:15,640 on this because this was not the intention when I first started 18 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,520 watching My Dearest that it was going to be a big deep dive 19 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,120 podcast episode on Pivot. Like that was not gonna happen. 20 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,840 So I'm really appreciative of you and I'm so glad that your 21 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,080 first time on Pivot is with this giant big ass show. 22 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,640 No, I'm so excited. Thank you for asking and same. 23 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:40,080 I wasn't even planning to watch this show and I was funny story 24 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,240 how I even like I pretty much. Long story short, not to be like 25 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,640 a pick me, but I was in Korea, I was at a chicken shop and on the 26 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,200 TV was playing my dearest. And so I was like, oh, I was 27 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,040 like, oh, that's my dearest whatever, eating my chicken 10 28 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:57,800 minutes. And I'm like like watching him. 29 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,920 Oh heck no. I gotta go back to the Airbnb 30 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,800 and watch it. Yeah. 31 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,640 Wow. So you literally were in Korea, 32 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,320 saw some of my dearest on the television in a public place, 33 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,440 and we're like, I need to go back to my bedroom? 34 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,640 Yep. And get going watching this 35 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:16,880 drama from episode one episode. Is that good? 36 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,480 It was episode 18. No. 37 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:25,640 Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, yes. I was like, what is going on? 38 00:02:25,640 --> 00:02:27,320 Oh, heck no. Now I have to watch it. 39 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,200 So then what a good story. I know. 40 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,640 And then you asked me. I was like, OK, cool. 41 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,680 We'll talk about it. 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And lastly, if you're a fan, the 52 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,880 best way to be a fan is to actually get involved and show 53 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,480 your support by becoming a patron. 54 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,480 You can check out the page on patreon.com/alwayscriticpod and 55 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,960 shout out to our patrons Curtis, Bale, Cindy, CD, Alana, Grace, 56 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,920 Lorna, Caitlin, Sammy, 10 May, Michelle, Adya, Aaron, Martha 57 00:03:23,920 --> 00:03:26,680 and Janet. Thank you guys for being patrons 58 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,240 and being for being so supportive of the show. 59 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,840 I love you guys, and I can't wait to talk to you guys about 60 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:37,640 my dearest. And of course, Sarai's hot take. 61 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,920 Which we will remains to be seen what that is, but that's going 62 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,360 to show up on the Patreon feed as well. 63 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,160 OK, so without further ado, we're going to talk about my 64 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,520 dear, both parts of My Dearest, Part One and Part 2, the show as 65 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,040 a whole. And here is the My Drama List 66 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,880 synopsis, a love story between a noble woman and a mysterious man 67 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,400 who shows up in her hometown. Set in the 1600s during the Qing 68 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,400 invasion, Yukichi is a pretty bubbly and and a bit spoiled 69 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,920 young lady who's called the 99 tailed fox of Nungungui. 70 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,080 She is also a a bit of an outcast because other young 71 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,320 ladies are jealous of her. They seem to think she's too 72 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,720 straightforward and her behavior is inappropriate for a young 73 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,000 lady. While young noblemen think 74 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,720 highly of her, Kilche knows how to get men to fall for her, but 75 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,000 fails to capture the heart of the person she likes. 76 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,040 EI Dong Hyun is a mysterious man who suddenly appears in the 77 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,920 Nungun Liu social scene. Nobody really knows anything 78 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,280 about him. Young nobles don't like him, but 79 00:04:32,280 --> 00:04:33,840 the elderly are wrapped around his finger. 80 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,560 He's been dating around a lot, but he becomes curious about a 81 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,760 certain 99 tailed fox, and one day the said fox, quite 82 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,720 literally crash lands into his arms. 83 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,160 Once war is brewing, the pair finds themselves separated 84 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,800 before they could even start to make sense of their feelings, 85 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,880 and it spins out from there. OK, that's a little bit more 86 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,560 Part 1 synopsis, but that's fine. 87 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,360 It applies to both. Part 1 aired from August to 88 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:02,240 September 2023, there was a five week break, and then Part 2 89 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,040 aired from October to November 2023. 90 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,520 We are recording this at the very beginning of December, so 91 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,320 we are hot on the heels of the finale episodes. 92 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:17,240 It is 21 episodes long, 10 for part one and 11 episodes for 93 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,400 Part 2. It was directed by Kim Sung 94 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,560 Yong. He has directed The Veil, which 95 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,720 also stars Nam Kunmin, My Healing Love and The Flower in 96 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,120 prison from 2016. That is it. 97 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,160 That is all this director has done. 98 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,720 Yeah, I know. It's wild. 99 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,080 No, it's wild. I think it's wild for him to 100 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:43,960 have done like just big show. And this person only has three 101 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,560 shows under their belt. It's wild. 102 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,880 OK. It is written by Huang Jing 103 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,080 Yong. This female screenwriter has 104 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,200 written The Rebel from 2017 and The King's daughter Sue Beck 105 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,120 Young from 20/13/2014. And that's it. 106 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,160 Those are the only two shows that she's written. 107 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,000 The Rebel was six years ago. Whoa. 108 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,520 Big gap between now and her last project. 109 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,360 Wow, that. Yeah. 110 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,960 Well, already then. OK, that was not we're. 111 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:19,520 Already like I know I. Was not expecting OK already. 112 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:25,240 I know, I know. The show stars Nam Kumin as 113 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:30,400 Yisang Hyun, our male lead. He's done about 26 television 114 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,480 shows, including most recently $1.00 Lawyer and the Veil Hot 115 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,160 Stove, Lead doctor Prisoner. I remember him from Chung Dong 116 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,320 Dong Alice and becoming a millionaire, a billionaire girl. 117 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,800 What did you think? Did you watch him in that? 118 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,520 I am bad with names. Alice with Moon Gun Young. 119 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:52,200 Uh huh. Yeah. 120 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,240 That's the one that I remember him from. 121 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,440 Yeah, yeah. Which is basically a decade ago. 122 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:03,320 Yep, so. I haven't seen anything else 123 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,320 that he's in recently. Same thing. 124 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,240 OK, OK, so we're basically on the same page, yeah. 125 00:07:08,840 --> 00:07:12,440 Yep. He's a star of yesteryear who is 126 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,360 now, has had a career resurgence in the last few years and 127 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:16,560 they're in the pandemic years, Yeah. 128 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:19,280 And I'm like, who's? Strange. 129 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,360 Before I recognize them. Who's that guy? 130 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,040 But yeah. Who's that guy? 131 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,040 So his Co star is Anand Jin, who plays Yukichi. 132 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,840 She's had a very good year because she was in the good bad 133 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:38,120 mother earlier in 2023, which was a very popular show. 134 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,840 Everyone was pretty pleased with her performance in that. 135 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,840 I have yet to watch it. I will watch it in the next 136 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:48,520 couple of weeks because, yeah, So what happens is every 137 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:53,360 December, I think that I can watch all of the year's dramas 138 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,600 in like the span of a month. Same. 139 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,040 And because I have a couple of guest recordings that I'm doing, 140 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:05,360 I am gonna freaking try my bit. I'm gonna try and come in as 141 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,880 prepared as possible and so I'm trying to watch the whole year 142 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,880 inside two weeks. And that's why I say I will 143 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,960 probably have watched the good, bad Mother, the Good, bad mother 144 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,920 in the next couple of weeks. She's also been in Goodbye 145 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,080 Earth, the One and Only, which is Diner. 146 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,000 I know her from hospital playlist. 147 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,760 She's one of the doctors, not one of the main doctors, but you 148 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,400 know, in the hospital. OK, yeah, she looked. 149 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,040 Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 150 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,400 Yeah. So she's in Hospital, playlist 151 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,960 one and two, Diary of a Prosecutor, Strangers from Hell 152 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,520 from 2019. I think her career really 153 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:44,720 started in 2019 and going through the pandemic years and 154 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,520 of course this year was like basically her coming out party. 155 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,680 Yes, definitely. Mm hmm. 156 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,120 So this cast is pretty extensive. 157 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,840 I'm only going to cover those two. 158 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:59,360 There's other names that we will definitely touch on in the show, 159 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:04,120 but for now, Sorai, what did you think of my dearest? 160 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,760 Oh man, that is a scary question. 161 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:11,880 No, I'm just kidding. How do I start and where do I 162 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,160 begin? Because I. 163 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,040 Girl, I don't know. You're like, get out with it. 164 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:26,680 I do not know. So OK, it's really hard without 165 00:09:26,680 --> 00:09:28,880 spoiling it. Now that I now that I'm here, 166 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,560 right now, now that I think about it, I'm just like, crap. 167 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:42,400 OK, so at first, I like I said before, I wasn't planning on 168 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,040 watching it. However, I was kind of feeling 169 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,000 like a Sega drama. I was kind of like Craving 1. 170 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,080 And then when I watched it, I was like, oh, this is what I 171 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:57,080 kind of was looking for. Like I was, yes, this is 172 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:03,000 satisfying my craving, my historical Sega drama, too much 173 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,560 going on craving. Yeah. 174 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:09,920 So I I actually really, I watching it through. 175 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,480 I loved it. I definitely binged it. 176 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:18,000 I do have my some qualms obviously towards the ending, 177 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,560 but I think the big thing is that it was something that I was 178 00:10:22,560 --> 00:10:26,600 looking for through this year. And I think when I watched, I 179 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,280 was like, this is what I've been looking for because this year 180 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,160 was kind of weird with dramas. It was like dramas. 181 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,840 I I was watching dramas that I I felt like I should like, but 182 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,440 then realized I don't think I'm liking these dramas. 183 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,960 And then here comes this one. I wasn't expecting much and I 184 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,640 was like, oh, this is big. It was a big one. 185 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,680 So, yeah, those are my overall thoughts overall. 186 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,720 OK, in a nutshell, OK, I'll go a little. 187 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,480 I'll go a tiny bit into spoiler territory. 188 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,280 Not that much though, not that much. 189 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:06,040 I How do I put this? I didn't start watching until 190 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,960 Part 2 had come out, started airing. 191 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,120 What is it like 2 episodes a week for Part 2? 192 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,400 And then I was like, OK, I'm going to start watching part one 193 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:17,200 and just go straight into Part 2 because I didn't want to wait 194 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,080 for episodes. I'm not. 195 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,520 I never want to wait for episodes. 196 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:31,080 So this show is so sweeping and so immensely scaled. 197 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,640 It's an epic about survival and love. 198 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:39,600 That is the word it's. Yes, it's a gripping storyline. 199 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:44,360 I thought it was sensational. The backdrop of real historical 200 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,440 events, the Ching invasion of the 17th century makes the 201 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:53,200 stakes higher, the plot more intense, and I appreciated so 202 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:57,600 many elements that make a drama worth watching, like the great 203 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,560 acting, the amazing cinematography, the direction, 204 00:12:01,560 --> 00:12:05,400 the writing, my own personal investment in the characters and 205 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,080 their growth throughout the series. 206 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:14,120 So many characters saw real change, had arcs, and there is 207 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,200 so much commentary that this show does. 208 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,120 Deep commentary on gender roles and double standards. 209 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:26,360 Heavy-handed criticism of Confucian ideals and the demands 210 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,960 that women be sexually pure victim blaming. 211 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:35,200 In so many ways, I thought that the show was a love letter to 212 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:40,160 the resilience and fortitude of women as they battle like a very 213 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,360 internal fight with the fallacy of the patriarchy. 214 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:47,560 And it's so much about sticking together for survival, about 215 00:12:47,560 --> 00:12:50,760 being too smart for the era, about that's. 216 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,160 A good one. Yeah, yeah. 217 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:59,080 Because they're so smart and and yes and about being the backbone 218 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,120 of society when the men tell them that they're so much less. 219 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:08,880 And the only people who actually achieve this dominating 220 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,800 Confucian ideal of maintaining loyalty and protecting the 221 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:19,080 family are the women the men like lack throughout the show. 222 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:24,240 Like almost every man except for the male lead is like has some 223 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:29,000 sort of issue that you're like. That's a red flag, even if it is 224 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:34,400 very historically fitting. So I felt like the men and the 225 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,400 patriarchy are just taken to task in the show. 226 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:42,640 It holds up a giant mirror to those characters with lofty 227 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,840 morals and dreams of serving the nation. 228 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,480 These self-proclaimed intellectuals or scholars who 229 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,880 get called on their bluff like the plot itself calls them out 230 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,480 on their bluff over and over again. 231 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,400 And it reminded me a lot of, like, keyboard warriors today. 232 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,800 Everyone can be brave online or, you know, when you're talking 233 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,240 shit with like your friends and stuff with people in the 234 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,720 society, with your teachers and family. 235 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,080 But what these people risk it all on a real battlefield, say. 236 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,360 That again, girl. Sorry, sorry. 237 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,920 It's like, I can't look at you when I say these things because 238 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,560 you're like excited and you're like talking me up. 239 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,080 It's funny. Excuse me? 240 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,320 My. Excuse me. 241 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,640 I'm sorry, I get overexcited. My no. 242 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,080 No, no, but. Like I said, commentary. 243 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:36,720 It's OK. It's OK. 244 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,840 I feel like I'm in church. Like does that make any sense? 245 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,760 So it's like, yes, like you're that's right, talking up the 246 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,640 passage. So thank you. 247 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,000 So. It's like, I mean you're facing 248 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,680 right now, so OK. I'm almost done. 249 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,400 I swear, no, this is general. Thoughts. 250 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,160 I don't know how I was, like, everything you're talking about 251 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,920 I felt like was a spoiler, but you just did it beautifully 252 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:01,520 right now, so yeah. I'm not naming names, basically. 253 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:02,840 That's all. I'm not doing. 254 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:07,280 Beautiful. Let me see. 255 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:13,480 It's it's a very grim sometimes sarcastic look at the monarchy 256 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:23,560 and the political system and these traumatic ways of holding 257 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:28,520 national preservation and self-image above human life. 258 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:34,880 And we can talk about the king later and his son and this whole 259 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,920 drama. But you know it's like the show 260 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:43,200 also showcases national anguish. Yes. 261 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,920 Which is tough to do, right. I think it's tough to do. 262 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,480 Like there's some movies that you can see it like if you're 263 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:51,760 it's around 4th of July, these right. 264 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:56,360 There's like these movies that have these really deep 265 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:02,200 patriotism overtones and you feel like a certain way. 266 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,440 There's also movies that show national anguish. 267 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,440 What's a movie? It's like Schindler's List I 268 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,640 feel is a great movie that shows. 269 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,480 When I say great movie, like that movie swept at the Oscars, 270 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,120 it's like an iconic Holocaust movie. 271 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,800 Spielberg did it the same year, Jurassic Park. 272 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,560 It's wild. And that movie has a lot of 273 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:31,040 cultural national anguish in it. And this show does that really 274 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:35,400 well. You know, Let me see. 275 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,640 There's LGBTQ plus representation in this, which we 276 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,800 have to talk about later with that character. 277 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:47,840 But I feel like overall, the show is a masterpiece and you 278 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,920 could write a thesis on it if you wanted to. 279 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:57,320 Not that I want to, but I think a lot of people, I don't want to 280 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,360 say it's underrated, but when I was looking online for people 281 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,560 who had thoughts about my dearest, there were not a lot of 282 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,920 people because they don't watch historicals. 283 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:12,520 Yeah, like there's a whole subset of people in in K Drama 284 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:17,079 Land that don't watch Saguks or historicals, and that blows my 285 00:17:17,079 --> 00:17:19,200 mind that. Definitely, yeah. 286 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,200 Because I'm like how? If you're looking like I'm like, 287 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:24,760 talk to me, talk to. Me how can you? 288 00:17:24,839 --> 00:17:29,040 As I was watching the show I was like like how can people not 289 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:35,680 watch like this is what got me into K dramas like exact. 290 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,160 I'm speechless right now. I'm speechless. 291 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,000 But I I'm just like, how can you not? 292 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,840 This is my own personal opinion because I I was talking to 293 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,880 myself like how can how can you not like this right here? 294 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:52,480 Like because the reason why I got into K dramas was definitely 295 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,360 the culture, even though I didn't understand that at all 296 00:17:56,360 --> 00:17:59,080 because I was so young and my frontal lobe wasn't fully 297 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,520 developed. But but I loved like seeing 298 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,960 something different, you know, and I loved in general, I love 299 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,880 period pieces. So even in American films, I 300 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,640 love period pieces. So I think it's just amusing, I 301 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:19,440 think because I love just historical period pieces and and 302 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:24,320 I feel like there's something more more romantic and more like 303 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:29,480 land and like how you said epic seeing all that and seeing how 304 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:35,560 how love happened in that era because it's easier now and it's 305 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,240 kind of, But back then especially in that type of 306 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,600 culture, I always think like, how do they do it? 307 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,760 Because literally I'm like, do they do they even have boyfriend 308 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,160 girlfriend. Obviously they didn't have 309 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,400 boyfriend girlfriend and Joe Sinera. 310 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,400 Absolutely not. Like, it's like you're engaged 311 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,080 and that's it, you know. And a lot of the times you don't 312 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,160 even know who your husband is or who your wife is. 313 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,760 And so just to see for me, I'm like, Oh my gosh, now that you 314 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:06,640 can definitely do like a a epic love story with that, doing 315 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,120 something that goes against all odds, which I'm a sucker for. 316 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,760 Yeah, they're star crossed lovers for for all intents and 317 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:19,800 purposes. I were so emotional. 318 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,760 So yeah, yeah, they're star crossed lovers. 319 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,760 I think 100% they are. And what I liked about the show 320 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,600 as well is that you couldn't tell if it was going to have a 321 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,400 happy ending or not. It was. 322 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,360 It kept you guessing until the last minute if it was going to 323 00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:42,440 happen or not. It did the only thing, OK, yeah. 324 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,360 That's rare, right? Like, you can pretty much watch 325 00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:47,440 a Cage drama and be like, that's going to happen, yeah. 326 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,320 That's true, right? This. 327 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,120 This one you start watching and you're like this could go 328 00:19:52,120 --> 00:19:55,280 anywhere either. Way, Yeah. 329 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,440 Anywhere. No one's safe. 330 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,480 No one's safe. No one is safe. 331 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,280 That's how I felt, like nobody's safe. 332 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,760 They could. All die like smallpox. 333 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,560 That could happen again and they all died like you don't know. 334 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,160 Yeah, like all they need is a little cough, cough from 335 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,720 somebody with tuberculosis or the smallpox and that's it. 336 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:18,520 Like the? End. 337 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:19,880 That's the end of that character. 338 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,480 They tell me they died. I'd be like, well, that that 339 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,320 tracks, you know, like there's nothing they could do which. 340 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,200 Well, I'll say that later, but yeah. 341 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,680 I know there's like a lot of like, land spoiler landmines 342 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,160 that we're trying to avoid. But let's talk about this 343 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,640 filming schedule, because I put on an APB on Instagram and 344 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,920 TikTok for people to send in their questions or concerns, 345 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,520 things that they wanted us to talk about. 346 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,720 Topics, characters, scenes, whatever. 347 00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:50,520 And I got AI got a little inundated. 348 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,160 So we're going to make our way through these as much as 349 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:57,120 possible. Someone said the crazy filming 350 00:20:57,120 --> 00:21:00,880 schedule slash extension episode 21 extended version. 351 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,240 They'd filmed for 11 months, but we're still shooting the night 352 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,920 before episode 21 and it snowed. Also, Vicki has updated episode 353 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,800 21 deleted scenes. Some people probably never saw. 354 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,720 The updated 21 also changed the last OST on the beach. 355 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,360 Why? So a few things in that that we 356 00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:23,520 can break down. The filming schedule was crazy. 357 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,520 They were filming for 9 or 10 months, right? 358 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,840 Basically the almost the whole year, the whole of 2023 they 359 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,280 were filming this. Show I can still see that 360 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,280 though. And I can see it because there 361 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:41,040 was a lot of, like, battle scenes, a ton of extras. 362 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,040 When you add these things together, this is time. 363 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,160 This is Money, right? Because they're hiring all of 364 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,600 these people to be in one shot, you know what I'm saying? 365 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,200 In one. Little like 2 second. 366 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,160 Scene, right, right. So there was a lot of logistics, 367 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,960 I'm sure that happened. Costuming that had to be done 368 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:05,120 and they, I think NBC announced that they were going to be 369 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:07,800 extending the drama by one episode because of its 370 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,160 popularity, so. Crazy. 371 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,360 Yeah, it was leading the ratings in its time slot, ranking first 372 00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:16,960 in drama popularity for three consecutive weeks. 373 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,720 And then they were like, we got to keep these good vibes 374 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,240 rolling. Let's go to 21 episodes, milk it 375 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,080 to the end. Yeah, let's milk it. 376 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,440 And of course, no one was upset. I was a little scared because 377 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,000 whenever they extend the episode for. 378 00:22:30,360 --> 00:22:32,760 Sure. I'm like, oh God, I hope they 379 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,200 don't ruin it. Yeah, same same girl, same. 380 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,520 They did that last year for the red sleeve which went to 17 381 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,240 episodes, and this year they did it for my Dears, which went to 382 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:49,520 21 instead of 20. They said that they also wanted 383 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,440 to influenced by the desire to fully unfold the story and 384 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,320 satisfy the dedicated fans who want to enjoy it for longer. 385 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,440 Weird way of saying that they wanted to get more money out of 386 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:07,760 it, but OK on as far as filming until the last moment. 387 00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:11,720 On November 15th, this outlet reported that My Dears will 388 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,720 conduct its final filming on November 16th, just a day before 389 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,920 the broadcast of the last two episodes, which was on November 390 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,280 17th and 18th. Subsequently, another outlet 391 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,920 shared that the drama is expected to. 392 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,400 I know. I'm like, sorry my commentary. 393 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,680 Well, it is shocking because you don't expect them to be doing 394 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,240 that in this day and age, filming so close to the airing 395 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,080 date. But they did. 396 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,280 And then this other outlet shared that they were expected 397 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,680 to conclude final filming in the early morning of November 18th. 398 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,000 That's the date. Like, that's the day of the last 399 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,480 episode. When did they have time to edit? 400 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,200 Well, that's the whole thing, right? 401 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,760 That was the magic of K dramas back in the day, or the trauma 402 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:04,480 of Cage dramas was that they would film week to week and they 403 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,800 would edit and write the episodes on the fly based on 404 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,440 audience reaction. And now they largely don't do 405 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,120 that. And you can see how much time 406 00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:18,000 and effort Part one and the bulk of Part 2 took to get here. 407 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,840 And then the last two episodes, I'm sure they were editing and 408 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,760 cutting and filming up until the last second. 409 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:32,360 So that might contribute to some of our nitpicks, I'm sure. 410 00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:36,160 Like we can pick some nits about this show, let me tell you. 411 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,840 Yeah. For. 412 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:38,520 Sure. Uh, huh. 413 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:44,920 So this show also had a bunch of controversy, most most notably 414 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,560 the plagiarism controversy with Gone With the Wind. 415 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:53,080 So in a report cited by a news portal, screenwriter Huang Jing 416 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:58,160 Young shared that My Dearest was planned for five years, and she 417 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:03,640 had said prior that I wanted to write stories of ordinary people 418 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,640 who are trapped in a tragic situation. 419 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,000 I didn't even dare to start writing the script, because the 420 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,880 Qing invasion is undeniably this history of defeat. 421 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,520 But the novel Gone With the Wind inspired me to start writing 422 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,440 casually. So she openly said that Gone 423 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:24,120 With the Wind was an inspiration for her and people were like, 424 00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:27,280 oh, this is plagiarism. It's the same story, blah blah 425 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,640 blah. And I wouldn't go so far as to 426 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:36,160 say it's it's plagiarism. I would say she took the broad 427 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,400 strokes of Gone With the Wind for sure and sort of like the 428 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,280 bones of it and re skinned it. This is a retelling, a loose 429 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,240 retelling. That's how it was sold to me as 430 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,240 well when I was reading up on Gone With the Wind. 431 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,400 It's like, right, Not Gone With the Wind. 432 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,080 When I was reading Up on My Dearest was that it was a loose 433 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,800 retelling of Gone With the Wind and I thought, oh, this is going 434 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,960 to be crazy. Yeah, yeah. 435 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,720 When I first heard that, it was like Gone with the Wind. 436 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:07,200 I was like, what? What would it look like? 437 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,960 Like what? So I was kind of, I was a little 438 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,640 bit concerned because I literally thought it was like an 439 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,720 like an adaptation. Like, literally, Like, they took 440 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,520 Gone With the Wind and they're just doing it all like, you 441 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,480 know, in just an era. But when I watched it, I 442 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,360 honestly didn't get those vibes. Was I looking for those vibes? 443 00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:29,160 Yes. Was I looking for like, OK, 444 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,200 Who's Who or whatever? Like, yeah. 445 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,840 But then towards, like, as I kept watching, I kind of forgot 446 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,280 about Gone With the Wind. I'm not going to lie. 447 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:42,880 By Part 2, though, the plot was not the same as Gone with the 448 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,640 Wind. Like, Again, broad strokes are 449 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,600 there. The character archetypes are 450 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:51,360 there for sure, but as far as like where they took the plot, 451 00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:53,640 no, that's not the same as Gone With THE Wind. 452 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,320 So I can't really subscribe to the fact that she plagiarized 453 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,160 Gone With The Wind. Like get Off, Get out of that. 454 00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,400 Like, did you watch? Settle down. 455 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,000 Did you watch the show? #1 #2 Have you? 456 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,520 This is a big #2. Have you watched Gone with the 457 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:07,840 Wind? I think the answer is yes. 458 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:13,080 Yeah, but like like with my. No, you don't need to say. 459 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:13,520 What? You watched. 460 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,360 You watched it. OK, because what I didn't know 461 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,000 until interacting with people on social media was that a lot of 462 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,120 people have not seen or read Gone With the Wind AM. 463 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,880 I that. Old and that alarmed me and it 464 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,960 baffled me it. Doesn't know Gone. 465 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,280 I was like you. That's what I That's what I 466 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,360 said. I was like you don't have any 467 00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:44,240 clue about the story. Clark Gable Every ROM Com and. 468 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,680 Literally I was like this. OK, the big dresses like. 469 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,960 I know, I know. Like we're we're on. 470 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:57,320 The same piece, But yeah, we're looking at each other's shot. 471 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,720 So Clark Gable as Rhett Butler. Vivian Lee as Scarlett O'Hara, 472 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,680 1939 Best Picture winner, swept the Oscars. 473 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,680 Who doesn't know who's? Such an important Who doesn't 474 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,320 know Scarlett O'Hare? So anyway, it is such an 475 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,960 important part of film history and it's wildly controversial 476 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,200 snapshot of the pre and post American Civil War South in 477 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,840 regards to its portrayal of slavery. 478 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:28,600 So with that being said, my dearest does showcase a ton of 479 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:34,040 slavery, yes, even in a tangent, tangential way, sexual slavery 480 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,960 as well. But this is like a big question, 481 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,280 so if you want to answer it later, that's fine. 482 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,560 I wonder if we can draw any conclusions from this, like, 483 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,920 especially as a Western audience, as to how Korea feels 484 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,720 about it enslaving its own people no matter the colour of 485 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,080 their skin and the ching enslaving Koreans. 486 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,480 Like perhaps the political approach taken by the Royals in 487 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:05,480 the show is the biggest sin. I don't know. 488 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,960 Like, did you have any thoughts about the portrayal of slavery 489 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,320 in this show in My dearest? Can I say it without? 490 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:22,760 Like, should I wait for later? I'll say this though, like I 491 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,920 think it was very I think it was insane exactly what you said. 492 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,240 How? I'll wait for later. 493 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,240 I'll wait for later. You'll wait for later. 494 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,400 OK, we'll circle back to the slavery question. 495 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,680 Here's also what I'll say in regards to Gone with the Wind. 496 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:43,040 So what my dearest, does extremely well, which feels very 497 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:48,680 gone with the Windish, is bring to life a world of Fair maidens 498 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:55,360 and brave men, of gallantry and chivalry and civility, of master 499 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,680 and slave. As the opening of Gone with the 500 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,840 Wind says, it's a world of flower picking festivals, much 501 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:06,440 like the elaborate barbecue on a plantation at the beginning of 502 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,400 Gone with the Wind. It's about it has these like my 503 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,360 Dears has these Technicolor silk on handbooks and these scenes of 504 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,880 just It's like a utopia for the elite, for the nobility. 505 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:24,880 And it's a world that even by the end of the show never 506 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,000 reappears. It dies. 507 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:33,560 And it's a historical study, true too, of the Qing invasion 508 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,200 and its effects on Tolson. It's people at all levels and 509 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:42,320 the future of that of Korea. And just like the beginning of 510 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,160 Gone with the Wind says it's a civilization Gone with the wind. 511 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,720 That is. What's magical and interesting 512 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,280 too, about the show is that these people lose their way of 513 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,440 life, but they still have slaves. 514 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,120 Yep. Yeah. 515 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,800 Sorry, I'm. Just. 516 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,320 Like yeah and and that's exactly what I was feeling when I as I 517 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,080 was watching like especially towards the end like they're 518 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:13,440 literally they don't even they're obviously divided you 519 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:18,080 know and easily easily divided within themselves and that's 520 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:23,120 exactly what the like I I I apologize if I offend anyone or 521 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,440 if I say something incorrectly just because I'm really bad with 522 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,400 names and I'm not I like watching historical stuff but 523 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,320 I'm not a historical person so that's. 524 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:32,800 It's hypocritical of me. Oh yeah. 525 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,000 Yes, thanks. Please help me. 526 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,360 But I just it was exactly, exactly what you said like the 527 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:45,400 fact that they I just, I thought it was interesting how they kind 528 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:50,680 of they were they were they thought that the Ching, which 529 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,200 they did brought them down but it was within themselves because 530 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:58,680 of I guess well it's a. Spoiler They caused division. 531 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,560 They caused division without even causing division. 532 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,440 They did 'cause major division, but they also did the more like 533 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,200 the emotional and mental intelligence, division between 534 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,760 themselves, especially with the Crown Prince and the king, and 535 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,440 you know what I'm saying? And and then even within the 536 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,360 people themselves. Right. 537 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,160 It exasperated issues that were already there. 538 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:29,480 So yeah, it's it's, it's interesting to say the least, to 539 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:35,160 see how it all unfolds and to see what the effects are on the 540 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,280 regular people, on the nobility, on the women who have gone 541 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,880 through this terrible, terrible ordeal to the slaves and the 542 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:49,200 people that are still captive in the chain as well. 543 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,960 You know, how are they, which like are how are they 544 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,320 negotiating to get them out of this? 545 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,680 Because these are citizens of of Tolson. 546 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:07,880 So that is crazy. And it is very close Cleaves, 547 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,800 very close to Gone With the Wind territory, especially the 548 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,000 juxtaposition of the beginning and the end of the show, you're 549 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,840 like, this is a whole new world they did not get back. 550 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,160 It almost you know. Where they were. 551 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,600 They were in a glass castle and it was completely broken because 552 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:31,120 like nobility and like, so all my terms are gone today, 553 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,640 apparently. But like, you know, like they're 554 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:40,880 like the they're, gosh, you know, the confusion, the ideals 555 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,200 of like, they have to be there has to be nobility. 556 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,840 There has to be like, you know, there has to be that separation 557 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,160 when it came to the that war and the, you know, the the invasion, 558 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,080 all that stuff. It didn't matter who you were 559 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,880 once. It leveled everybody. 560 00:33:54,880 --> 00:34:00,760 Like, especially when when someone who was a noble woman 561 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,720 got captured, it didn't matter. Yes, even though she was saying 562 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:06,960 I'm a noble woman, I'm a noble woman. 563 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,320 They're like and especially when she set foot in Shimyang. 564 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,239 So like, you're in Shimyang, Justin doesn't matter anymore. 565 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,920 Which is, to me, I was like, wow. 566 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:22,480 Like, they literally were in a glass castle of like very 567 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,560 conservative. And then this happened. 568 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,000 And then everything starts shattering and they start 569 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,719 shattering mentally. And yeah, obviously the key. 570 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:38,760 Yeah, so. So yeah, I I think that's also a 571 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,840 big part of the show and a parallel with Gone With the 572 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,239 Wind. The other controversy for my 573 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:51,239 dearest was I think in earlier like May 2023, NBC had to sever 574 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,159 ties with an external company supplying the background actors, 575 00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:56,560 which we've mentioned earlier. There were a ton of background 576 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:02,760 actors on the show following the revelation that this actor had a 577 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,200 sexual assault case back in 2004. 578 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,680 A background actor and they basically hired someone who 579 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,240 basically was blacklisted, was supposed to be blacklisted in 580 00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:16,760 the in the industry and I don't know, along along with the 581 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,280 plagiarism, which didn't seem very fair, but this one I was 582 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,800 like oh that's a little. Yeah. 583 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,960 So that was the other controversy for the show was 584 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,240 that they hired a sexual assault. 585 00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:33,560 And that kind of dude, that kind of frustrates me because I'm not 586 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,800 going to I I have to be honest, like I was really, as much as I 587 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:41,240 loved this show, I was very frustrated because I was 588 00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:45,520 applying a lot of stuff to myself in this in the way you 589 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:46,480 know. You're a. 590 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,520 What do you mean? OK, For example, just like you 591 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,880 said, like a guy who's blacklisted. 592 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:56,200 Got right, got hired. Yeah, it's just kind of a 593 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,840 reminder of how it was back in the day. 594 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,920 Like I could not stop thinking of like if I were, well, 595 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,040 obviously, like I was just so frustrated even though there's 596 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,160 nothing I could do about it. But I was frustrated how the the 597 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:13,120 men, like, the men can just do whatever they want, can sleep 598 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,320 with whatever they want, and they're clean and they're pure, 599 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:23,920 but just one, just by one like touch, like from a barbarian and 600 00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:29,040 they're defiled or just even like even like an encounter, you 601 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,960 know? And it's like, I don't, I don't 602 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:37,760 like hearing when when when like you know people who are who have 603 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:43,200 that in the background are are hired because it's like like how 604 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,200 come you guys make a big deal out of the dumbest things if 605 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,080 like if it's like a woman or if it's like something else that I 606 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,760 don't, I don't want to get into it. 607 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,840 Yeah, like other things. Like even like something 608 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,280 bullying versus, like, sex assault. 609 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,480 Right. You know, not obviously. 610 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,640 They're both bad. But like, how come one is being 611 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,080 swept under the rug and then someone just gets us like, 612 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,840 knocked down, loses their career for something that, you know, I 613 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,320 don't know. I don't want to get into it. 614 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,760 But yeah, I was just thinking about it a lot during this show. 615 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:28,400 Like the frustration, like, how come, like, why? 616 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,840 Why is it that if it's a man doing it, it's OK? 617 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:36,600 Or it's like, oh, it's not a big deal. 618 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:37,960 It's not a big deal, but it's a woman. 619 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:43,720 It's like, oh, no, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta excellent, 620 00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:46,680 you gotta, you know, that's just one part of it. 621 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,760 There's other stuff, but yeah. Yeah. 622 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,080 So I guess we should mention now trigger warning for anyone who's 623 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,800 listening about No, it's we gotta talk about anyway. 624 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:07,480 Trigger warning about sexual assault, suicide and just 625 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:12,440 violence, I guess toward women and and children and elderly 626 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:17,320 people. So do you want to talk about the 627 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,120 acting? Because I think that is a big, 628 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,680 big reason why this show sort of works. 629 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,560 Right. So you have Nam Kumene, who's 630 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,360 leading the charge. He's the male lead. 631 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:33,000 I think he's the one who largely made the show what it is, Like. 632 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:38,560 He took my breath away. He was so skillful in presenting 633 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:43,720 this character and inhabiting Chang Hyun truly, and he has 634 00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:48,400 these extremely expressive eyes. He sure does. 635 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,200 He's like a micro expression queen king and I think there was 636 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,160 AI know, I think there was like just a genuineness to him that 637 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,720 kept me riveted. He hit the comedic bits 638 00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:03,120 perfectly and he nailed all the emotional beats as well. 639 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:09,120 How did you feel about this man? So somehow I fell in love. 640 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:15,400 I'm just kidding. I always say that, but I feel 641 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,480 like it was so well casted. I think throughout the entire 642 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,040 drama I was watching, I was like this show is just like perfectly 643 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,240 casted. This is well casted. 644 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:30,400 He took, he took this role. He just like, I don't know if it 645 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,080 would have worked with anyone else, who knows? 646 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,760 But I feel like he just amazed me when there was moments where 647 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,040 like there was a lot of scenes where he didn't say anything, 648 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,880 right. He had no lines at all and like, 649 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,000 he didn't have to say anything. And it's so funny because 650 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,880 there's so many scenes where they ask him questions and he's 651 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,360 just there. He doesn't say anything at all 652 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,480 and they answer or they they ask another question and he's just 653 00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:00,680 like, I mean I can't get, I can't, you know give the facial 654 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,440 expressions that he does, but. They'll ask him something and 655 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,360 he's just like, he'll do his thing and then they'll ask him. 656 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,400 They're like they're having a conversation with him and he's 657 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,120 just there. Like he's just there. 658 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:17,640 And you know what he's saying. And I'm like, Oh my gosh, I I 659 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,240 haven't seen that in a really long time. 660 00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:23,040 It was very refreshing to see him, to see the his. 661 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,920 The way he portrayed this role was so, so refreshing to me. 662 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,280 I was like, this is like, this is a man. 663 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,360 This is a man. This is a man. 664 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,360 This is not like an actor trying to be a man. 665 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:37,920 This is a man. Just being a man. 666 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,760 And exactly what you say. Like, so genuine too. 667 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,360 I thought it was very, very genuine. 668 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,800 Yeah. And yeah. 669 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,360 Yeah, loved him. So good, what did you think 670 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,840 about our kill Che, played by An and Jen? 671 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,040 So I liked her. Female lead. 672 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,280 I liked her. You liked her? 673 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:09,760 I have to say though, at the beginning, I had to warm up to 674 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,000 her at the beginning, which is OK. 675 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,640 It's. I mean, I mean, it's OK because 676 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,960 like, it's like the first couple episodes, there's the actors are 677 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,920 getting used to their characters, yadda yadda. 678 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,720 Which is fine. But for me, I was like, OK, like 679 00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:26,360 she's cute. I like what she's doing. 680 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,760 I I, yeah. But I liked her. 681 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,480 I liked her. You liked her? 682 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:38,520 Yeah, on that note, she said. Anand Jin said it was really 683 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,840 difficult to approach period genre series to portray Yugi 684 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,040 Che. I always question myself if 685 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,800 there was, if this was the right way. 686 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:52,400 I started with getting myself used to the dialect first, so I 687 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,680 had to study the script more than I did with previous ones. 688 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,280 Towards the beginning of the production I focused on getting 689 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,920 used to the genre and now I've come to be more comfortable 690 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,600 around the set and found more room to express what I want. 691 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,880 It might not be perfect, but as you see from you's perspective, 692 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,280 you will be able to follow her story. 693 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,680 So I asked for much love. So she was basically like, 694 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:17,040 forgive me, this is a a big tall order for me to speak in a 695 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,600 different dialect. The saguks are notoriously 696 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,040 difficult. It's a whole different style of 697 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:27,320 speaking and inflections and different things, and I think 698 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:32,600 she did very well considering that this is such a layered 699 00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:36,560 character and I want to touch on the fact that so many people 700 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,360 were upset with this character. OK, can I? 701 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,560 Because I say though like they match really well and. 702 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,360 They kept up with. Each other. 703 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,000 Really. Well, I just want to say that I 704 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,920 did like her. I just wanted. 705 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,280 OK, go ahead, go. Ahead, I agree. 706 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,480 I agree that they complemented each other very well. 707 00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:00,520 And one thing about this couple is that this is a big age gap 708 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,120 between them. Ten years Nam Nam Kun Min is 45 709 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:09,640 years old in real life. Oh, wow. 45 I'm in Jen is 32 Oh. 710 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:10,400 Snap. OK. 711 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:17,040 So that's thirteen years between them, 13 year age gap, that's 712 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,680 huge age gap in real life. And I do feel like that is the 713 00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:24,560 age gap in the characters as well. 714 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,920 I think she starts to show as a teenager. 715 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,920 She ends the show maybe in her 30s. 716 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,120 I agree. There's a one point where he 717 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,160 does say like, I'm way much older than you and it doesn't 718 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:36,480 say. Yeah, he says. 719 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,560 I'm basically waiting for you to grow up because you're so 720 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:43,080 charming and cool and like bad ass right now, but you you have 721 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,280 some growing to do like internally. 722 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,920 Yep, yes, yes. You need a girl as a person 723 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,240 before you're like ready. For me, that's when he basically 724 00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:55,760 told her at one point and she was like, what the hell do you 725 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,560 mean? And as an audience, like we 726 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,120 totally understand where he's coming from. 727 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,840 But it is an age gap romance. He is way older than her, same 728 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,200 same as Gone With the Wind as well. 729 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:11,000 Like Brett Butler's supposed to be a man and I think she's a 730 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:16,560 teenager when she starts the the Movie or Slash book and it is a 731 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,080 span of 12 years in Gone with the Wind. 732 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,560 I also feel like this is a large span of time. 733 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,320 Especially when they talk about like, yeah, years ago and I'm 734 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,280 like, I swear I just saw two years ago on the thing I'm like, 735 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,600 oh, OK, we're doing all righty then, I think. 736 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,840 I think it's the same, right? Like it's got to be at least a 737 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:41,040 decade between the first episode and the last episode of the 738 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,720 show. So something to keep in mind 739 00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:46,800 there. As far as people getting upset 740 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,760 with the character, I didn't quite understand. 741 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:56,040 I understand, but I also don't understand because she's so much 742 00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:02,120 like Scarlett O'Hara who is prideful and stubborn and vain 743 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,880 and petulant. But she's soft hearted where it 744 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,080 counts and tactical where it counts. 745 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:12,360 And she's resilient and defiant and self assured and courageous. 746 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,120 And I love that fierceness about both of them, The fact that 747 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,920 she's flawed, she's human, she does make mistakes. 748 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,840 And who's that going to make mistakes? 749 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,080 We all Jack. Up when Look around what's 750 00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:29,920 what's happening around her? Yeah, for sure. 751 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:35,160 Yeah, I really liked. I mean, I like both characters, 752 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,600 but I liked when I first start towards the beginning, I liked 753 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:44,880 seeing like how she was so honest and why people the 754 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,760 character, why everyone's like oh she's so like out there. 755 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,280 She's like so brazen or she's so whatever. 756 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,760 Like she's you know I'm just like she's literally just being 757 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,040 herself and she's honest and she's like do. 758 00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:01,840 Especially when like she's she's trying to follow her friend's 759 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,960 lead and doing like cutie stuff and like say like they're like 760 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,160 doing. So for example, like they're 761 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,400 trying to do something and they have to be on their knees for a 762 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,240 long time and she's just like, Oh my God man, he's hurt like 763 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,320 she's not. I think they were praying. 764 00:46:17,720 --> 00:46:21,560 She's like, and then she's OK and I'm like that is so real. 765 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:27,400 Like, yeah, in reality, like as much as ladylike as I would like 766 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,880 to be a lot of times. It's hard. 767 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,880 It's hard. She is like, I like the fact 768 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,920 that she was Oprah. She was genuine about how, like, 769 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,160 there's a lot of things like the fact that she the way when she 770 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,920 would cry, when she when she found out so and so and so and 771 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,000 so we're getting married and she was like, crying. 772 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,280 Yeah, like just crying. She wasn't like. 773 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,680 She was just like, wailing to her heart, like. 774 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,320 Yeah, like a child. Like a child. 775 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,200 And then if she's doing something that's supposed to be 776 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,560 like kind or nice, but if it's uncomfortable for her, she says 777 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,920 it's uncomfortable for her. So, like, this is uncomfortable 778 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,960 or this hurts, but I really enjoyed that. 779 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,800 She was like, that just made her real. 780 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,320 Yeah, I think she was a fully realized character and she does 781 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,720 have a a really great arc that we can talk about in the 782 00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:23,920 spoiler. Section She does. 783 00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:26,920 You know, just like her man's. Oh, by the end of the show, 784 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:27,880 she's a different. Person. 785 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,040 She. I have so much to say about her, 786 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,640 but OK, yeah, yes. And then him too. 787 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,360 But yeah. Yes. 788 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,880 OK. So why don't we do this? 789 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:41,560 Why don't we talk about our ratings for the show and then 790 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,920 we'll just get into the spoiler section because girl, I think 791 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,400 we've had enough of, like, dancing around the characters 792 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:48,920 and what happens to them and all this stuff. 793 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,440 OK, So what would you give this show out of Five Soldier 794 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:58,680 bottles? OK this is so hard I would like 795 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:04,320 to give the show if wait no that is that makes no sense. 796 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:12,560 Can I do 4 social bottle Soulju bottles and a shot of Soulju? 797 00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:19,360 Yeah, like a 4.94 point. Five, yeah. 798 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,080 I'm very like recency bias right now, especially I'm kind of on 799 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,080 that high so. Talk about it. 800 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,240 Yes, speak on it. So there's a thing called 801 00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:31,720 recency bias, which I I completely agree with. 802 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,680 It's basically you're too close to the thing. 803 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,240 You need to give it some time before you can the Rose colored 804 00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:39,640 glasses come off and the experience wears off and you can 805 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,880 kind of see the flaws, see what it is for real in comparison to 806 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,920 other things as well, things that are a little bit older and 807 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,920 so I also think that it is a 4, 1/2, maybe even 5. 808 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,320 Soldier bottles, But I was like, I don't want to be extra. 809 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,640 I think it's a four and A5. Let's do 4 1/2 for me, 4 1/2 810 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:04,560 Soldier bottles and then you got four in a in a shot because it 811 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,840 is excellent. I'm not gonna deny it's 812 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:11,640 excellent. I think there are The plot gets 813 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,280 a little wobbly towards the end of the show. 814 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,600 I think Part 2 wasn't as strong as part one, but overall it is a 815 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,840 feat. It is to do this type of show so 816 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:26,720 well and to get people on board and really sort of sell the 817 00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:29,200 thing, you know what I'm saying? There's other shows that I've 818 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,560 done it really well and still the endings are a little wobbly. 819 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,160 But at the end of the day, you're like, that was a fucking 820 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,360 great show. Like Mr. Sunshine, it's one of 821 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,320 those shows. The red sleeve is another one of 822 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,280 those shows where you're like, Oh my God, that's a masterpiece. 823 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:48,320 But the ending we got, there's some things that I'm like, I can 824 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:53,640 nitpick here and there about this or that, but overall it's a 825 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:58,000 great experience, a great watch and I don't regret anything that 826 00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,840 happened. It made me feel things. 827 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:06,560 Like I felt like everything. I felt the I I was swelled. 828 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,800 I was swell. I was like I I felt everything. 829 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,680 I was like feeling things. I'm not just like watching like, 830 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,160 you know, watching. I'm just like, right, I'm being 831 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,920 enveloped. You can't passively watch this 832 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,680 show. You have to, you know, Eyes, 833 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,400 ears, hearts open when you watch my dears. 834 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,040 For sure, Even when I was like, all right, I'm so sorry, No, 835 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,440 keep going. Like, I get on my phone like, 836 00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:35,680 naturally or by an extinct, and then I look up. 837 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,320 I'm like, what happened? I'm actually usually I don't 838 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,120 rewind, but at this show I was rewinding. 839 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,360 I was like, no, hold on, let me put my phone away. 840 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:48,680 I can't miss this. Yeah, I would do that too. 841 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,680 I would like try and write a note down and then I'd be like, 842 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,960 wait, I missed something And then I'd be like, Oh no, I can't 843 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,080 do that. I I honestly didn't write any 844 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,080 notes. During. 845 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,400 My watch of the show. It was after the show had ended 846 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,680 in like weeks later that I was like, OK, I need to sit down and 847 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,640 like get this all out, but that's so rare for me. 848 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,400 I usually write things down as the show is ending while I'm 849 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,440 watching, but I did not this time. 850 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,120 I needed my full attention. Feel that it was hard, OK? 851 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,160 All right, so we're going to get into the spoiler section, so if 852 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:22,720 you don't care to be spoiled, keep listening. 853 00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:25,520 If you want to go off and watch my dears all 21 episodes, I 854 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,440 highly recommend you do that before coming back and listening 855 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,840 to the spoiler section. We'll see you on the other side. 856 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,320 You want to come in? All right. 857 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:41,800 We're on the other side of spoilers. 858 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,720 That's all right. Where do you want to start? 859 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,240 I think let's go back to the slavery thing that you like 860 00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:49,400 skipped over. So talk to me about slavery and 861 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,880 my tears. Just such AI know it's OK. 862 00:51:55,480 --> 00:52:00,040 I think there was a phrase like, I'm just gonna, like, copy you 863 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,360 today, 'cause you're just saying, like, the right, correct 864 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,440 terms and phrases. You said something about it was 865 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,840 a they had a reflection of themselves or they had a mirror 866 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,320 to themselves, right? Yeah, I feel like. 867 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,240 There's a big, big mirror to society. 868 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:19,760 To society, I feel like that was like it was interesting to see 869 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,560 in that culture, because I was like no one. 870 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,440 There's no there's discrimination without 871 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,520 discrimination. You know, like no one is. 872 00:52:29,240 --> 00:52:31,160 You're like there's nothing. Guys are the same. 873 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,160 I don't get it. No, there's discrimination 874 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,800 without discrimination if that makes no sense. 875 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,880 But like that no one is safe, you know? 876 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,040 And it's crazy. How? 877 00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:45,760 How, like you said, like they were enslaved. 878 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,360 And then within themselves they have that slavery. 879 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:54,240 And I was like, and to me, I'm just like, Oh my gosh, it's just 880 00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:56,400 you. You see, that's just a part of 881 00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:05,360 everything else of how how blind, how blind, how blind, you 882 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,360 know, they were or they can be. I'm just going to stick to the 883 00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:14,960 show how how blind they they were to see like literally what 884 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,120 they're doing, what they're doing to you. 885 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,920 You guys are doing, you've been doing or you guys are doing to 886 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:24,200 them? I think there's a difference 887 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,200 between the slavery in Korea and the slavery in the Ching when 888 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,560 they get captured and taken away. 889 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,560 And I'm not sure if this is accurate. 890 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:40,120 You know what I'm saying? Like, I think that the it's the 891 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,360 same problem as Gone With the Wind where it's like this 892 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,560 idyllic society where the slaves are not. 893 00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:49,280 They're treated well and like nothing's wrong here. 894 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,800 And they're happy to be working the fields and, you know, 895 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,400 dealing with the house and having, you know, having a 896 00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,640 master and stuff like that. And that's not. 897 00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:02,160 Being friends with your. I mean, that's problematic. 898 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:07,760 Friends are like, yeah, I mean, it's not like it's not possible, 899 00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:09,360 but exactly what you were saying. 900 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:15,800 So the fact that, you know, shit basically goes down in the chain 901 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:21,320 and not necessarily in Korean society, I don't know, like the 902 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,600 only time where I'm like, oh, this is a real negative 903 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:28,640 portrayal of slavery in Korea is that back story that we get with 904 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:33,440 Chung Hyun and his father and him killing the kid that was in 905 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,160 love with his daughter and stuff like that. 906 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:40,440 Like that story is like, oh, and we got that super late in the 907 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,520 show. We got, yeah. 908 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,240 In that scene I was like. I mean that we could talk about 909 00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:49,280 a little bit, OK, I don't know if we should talk about it now 910 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:50,600 or later, but like, that's a nitpick. 911 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,000 But I do too. I do too. 912 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:57,600 Regardless, I think there's. I'm not sure what we can say in 913 00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,920 conclusion about my dearest and slavery other than it seems 914 00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:09,240 incomplete and not necessarily portrayed to the in the best way 915 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:15,240 because they were so they were so accurate with other things, 916 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,320 right? Like what happened and the whole 917 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,560 invasion and the way that the Ching look. 918 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:25,000 They did their homework like this isn't like a party city 919 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:31,040 looking group of people that came to invade Korea like they 920 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:35,880 look real, right? This looks like a real quasi 921 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:40,440 Mongolian force that calms down. And then the way that their 922 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:48,040 whole society looks when we're in Shimyang, it's a well formed 923 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:53,240 like portrayal of them. And of course the slavery over 924 00:55:53,240 --> 00:55:58,280 there is like brutal and and and terrible and then they don't 925 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,600 necessarily do the same hard look. 926 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:08,240 Yeah, but they don't do the same hard look for the Tolson like 927 00:56:08,240 --> 00:56:10,720 slavery, so. It was in their face, but they 928 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,720 were like. Right. 929 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:13,400 What? Happened. 930 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,680 No, we're cool here. I don't know. 931 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:22,240 We're cool here. So let's talk about the Let's 932 00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:27,040 talk about the character Jong Hyun and just his, the way he 933 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,440 starts to show and the way that he ends the show. 934 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,960 Because I feel like he is so, so cool and so central to 935 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,920 everything. Because at the at the beginning 936 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,120 of the show, he has, like this inability to commit to a 937 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:44,440 relationship and the story of him hanging out like sans 938 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,920 chaperone with a young maiden and then him not proposing 939 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,560 marriage that's taken straight from Gone with the Wind. 940 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:55,000 He's a scoundrel, a man who's not bound by restrictive social 941 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:59,880 norms or patriotism. He's pragmatic, not dogmatic. 942 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,080 He's at odds with the conservative Korean society. 943 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:08,400 And by the end of the show, he's undoubtedly one of the most 944 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,840 heroic characters in K drama, and he finds something worth 945 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,000 fighting for. And it's her. 946 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:19,680 It's his deep love for Kilje and the compulsion to keep her 947 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,360 alive. And it's also this big sense of 948 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:27,320 justice and compassion for the Korean slaves that were taken as 949 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:31,480 captives to Ching. He's doing like these explosive 950 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,520 defenses of his people and the woman he loves. 951 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:39,640 He'll do anything for what's right versus doing anything for 952 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,680 himself. And that's how he was at the 953 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:46,160 beginning of the show. But all of this with like this 954 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:52,920 calculated calm and that is fun to see. 955 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:58,560 And I don't know if you had anything else to say about Tang 956 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,800 Hyung, because I thought he was such a great part of the show. 957 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:07,560 He definitely was my favorite character for sure. 958 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,600 I'm just gonna say he was definitely my favorite 959 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,720 character. I obviously was rooting for him 960 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:19,680 and I just the fact that everything you mentioned, I I 961 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,560 fell in love with him for that. I'm like can that be like a real 962 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:27,320 man like that Like he he's just, he comes out of nowhere and 963 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,320 everyone's talking about him like oh who's this guy? 964 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:33,280 Or like oh he's definitely a fake this or like he's such a 965 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:37,800 coward or he's this or like he mocks like, you know our ideas, 966 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,080 our ideals. He mocks like, you know the 967 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,640 monarchy. He marks like he he's he he's 968 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,680 like, oh, he has this like whole unmarried concept that he wants 969 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,680 to do and he wants to do whatever he wants and stuff like 970 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,000 that. And I don't know why I feel like 971 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,080 that was so freeing. Like I I saw him. 972 00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,240 I'm like, he's just like so free and he doesn't care. 973 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,520 And because of that, it was so easy for him to fight for what 974 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,960 he wanted to fight for. From my opinion, especially when 975 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:13,000 he fell in love with her and I I was like, it all started because 976 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,240 he was like, oh, I'm a bucket. When, you know the first time 977 00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:19,720 that they were going to in the little little Nunguri where they 978 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,560 had, they were like forming this little militia to go and save 979 00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,720 the king. And he was. 980 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:29,520 Like peace out this. No, I'm I'm I'm heading out to 981 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,240 this this this sounds this is like dumb. 982 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,360 I'm gonna leave in my terms. Obviously you said it better 983 00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,320 than I did. But he and then you know once he 984 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:48,800 once he knew that it it involved her because you know because she 985 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,160 was in love with another man. Is it? 986 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:52,760 Is it crazy? That was a home and. 987 00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,800 Like he I was just like bro, like he's like, I'm going to 988 00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,640 make sure he's safe for her sake, you know? 989 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:02,280 Yeah. Like, yeah. 990 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,120 Who does that? What kind of man is that? 991 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:05,800 You know, like, what kind of man? 992 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,680 Obviously. Like he didn't do the the 993 01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,120 regular. Like, what? 994 01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,800 You want to see what you want from an actual man? 995 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,040 Like, OK, like, I want marriage. I want this. 996 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,200 I want that. He wasn't doing any of that, but 997 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,840 he was doing like even grander things. 998 01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,680 He was doing even better things. He's like she's he saved her so 999 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,000 many times. And from there it kind of 1000 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,960 trickled like this whole. Here's the thing, like, I I 1001 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,520 thought that it started with his love for her because he wanted 1002 01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,840 to make sure she's safe, you know, and make sure she's OK And 1003 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:41,000 then from there he's he joined, you know, the he joined the war. 1004 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:45,000 He joined, You know, he started helping out with like all these 1005 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,800 different political, you know, scenarios and stuff like that 1006 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:52,280 because he's really smart, very very smart, very intelligent. 1007 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:54,920 He knows how to, like, play people. 1008 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,400 He knows how to play. Like he knows how to play the 1009 01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:01,320 game between, like, politics and between Ching and between Josen. 1010 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:05,640 And he knows how to talk with people and he knows how to like 1011 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,680 he knows, you said calculating and exactly like he knew. 1012 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,520 He knew other people's next move. 1013 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,280 And before they make that next move, he would say like do this 1014 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,360 and that because this person's going to do this. 1015 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,920 He was very like that. But I'm like, that was so 1016 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:23,840 attractive to me because I'm like because here here's what I 1017 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:28,240 I wrote somewhere I said this male lead is proactive. 1018 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,960 I love, we love a proactive male lead. 1019 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:38,000 Like a proactive male lead. Like he's always proactive. 1020 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:42,000 He's always doing something, whether it's for her or if it's 1021 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,560 like from there, then like he started. 1022 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,560 Obviously, like you said it, it started with her. 1023 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,000 OK, well, he's always been what's? 1024 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,960 Weird is that the protection, the protection extended beyond 1025 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:55,160 her. Exactly from their. 1026 01:01:55,640 --> 01:02:02,000 It was like, Oh yes, like people that she cared about, including 1027 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:07,640 his, his love rival, the man that she loves, who does that. 1028 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:12,920 That's true love right there. Not here, I don't say. 1029 01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,640 I'm just kidding. Yeah, yes, very proactive. 1030 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:20,200 And I love when a male lead is proactive and and not just like 1031 01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:24,640 he, he definitely was proactive and doing something in general 1032 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,360 actually helping out and making some kind of difference and 1033 01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:32,360 using, you know whatever He has read over resources he has, but 1034 01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:36,840 he was also proactive with her and I love that even though at 1035 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,640 first she was, he was like like I know that that also counts. 1036 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:44,160 He told you straight up like I I'm gonna. 1037 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,240 I'm living the unmarried life. But I like you, you know, like 1038 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,880 this, you know you don't like he was straight up from the 1039 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,680 beginning. This is what I this is what I 1040 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:55,400 want for right now. But I really like you. 1041 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,080 I want you in my life. She's like, Oh no. 1042 01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,800 And then it keeps going like he's always proactive with her. 1043 01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:04,720 Like he never he always is straight up with her and tells 1044 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:11,720 her like, well, except for except for except for some. 1045 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,320 You know when he saved, when she saved her like from like 17 1046 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,920 soldiers or 13 soldiers. But anyways, we're. 1047 01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,440 Oh, yeah, right. That was, that was like a little 1048 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:26,720 a big life. So I I like I said Gilche goes 1049 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,760 through a big change throughout the show and she saw the most 1050 01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:34,280 growth. Yes, to me, she her teenage 1051 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:39,800 immaturity, her nonchalance over the serious Ching invasion, the 1052 01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:43,440 way she's too. She's so shallow and feisty and 1053 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:48,600 outspoken, and she comes into her adulthood with a compelling 1054 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:52,480 inner strength that taps it. She taps into it during the war 1055 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:56,680 years, the invasion years, and she later runs her own business. 1056 01:03:56,680 --> 01:04:01,160 She takes responsibility for her helpless circle of dependence. 1057 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,320 Her family and the servants slash slaves. 1058 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:10,320 And to me, people were also seemingly upset with Kilche 1059 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:14,080 because she doesn't choose him time and time again. 1060 01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:19,000 OK. And it seemed like I I honestly 1061 01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:20,600 didn't hold it against her at all. 1062 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:24,000 That she kept was like, no, and like didn't understand her own 1063 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,240 feelings and all this stuff for so long. 1064 01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:30,120 He was the right person at the wrong time. 100,000 percent 1065 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:32,520 100,000. Percent so. 1066 01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:38,120 And even if he was a green flag and he loved her deeply, he he 1067 01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:42,040 could see her fire. He could see her grit, her 1068 01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:45,000 determination as a survivor before she ever could. 1069 01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,520 And that to me means that they're not. 1070 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,520 They don't. How do I put this? 1071 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:55,000 They're he's a complete person. Even if he changes later and has 1072 01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,320 a character arc, he's a complete person and he knows who he is. 1073 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,560 She is not. She's not there yet. 1074 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:07,000 Like her frontal lobe hasn't developed yet so exactly so. 1075 01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:09,960 He always knew who she was, but she did not. 1076 01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:14,640 And it's her brazenness that he admires deeply. 1077 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:21,240 I I honestly don't get why people were like, upset with 1078 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:22,080 her, because I was. Upset. 1079 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:24,480 That's crazy. I don't know. 1080 01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,600 Like it was just I I can't name names of like this person was 1081 01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,560 upset with Kill Chip. Like, I feel like a lot of 1082 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:35,920 people were just annoyed with her, with her antics and the 1083 01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,040 fact that she was so in love with Ashley. 1084 01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,400 I mean Yongjun. Ashley I was kidding, Yeah. 1085 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,440 Ashley is the equivalent character in Gone With the Way. 1086 01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:50,640 Yeah, But yeah, I I think this love story is a slow burn. 1087 01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,680 It's a lot of push and pull between them. 1088 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:55,800 Will they, Won't they? Yes. 1089 01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,840 And that's what's appealing to me, like let that's what keeps 1090 01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:02,320 you coming back, is that they keep having these run insurance 1091 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:06,480 in really stressful life or death situations. 1092 01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:10,800 He saves her, He's continually looking after her and she's 1093 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,480 continually looking after her own people as well and getting 1094 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,600 them out of scrapes and delivering babies in the 1095 01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:23,600 wilderness and the list goes on. So they're both on their own 1096 01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,600 separate journeys, and it's like they intersect in certain 1097 01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:30,240 moments throughout the show. And what's frustrating is that 1098 01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:34,920 they always have this like crazy emotional goodbye where one of 1099 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:38,240 them wants something out of the other one and they don't get it 1100 01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:42,120 exactly exactly. And. 1101 01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:46,160 It's angsty and I'm an angsty bitch, so I love like. 1102 01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,760 Give me the angst. Give me the angst. 1103 01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:53,800 Yes, I I feel like I. One thing that I appreciated is 1104 01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,480 there was so many. There's a lot of like a good 1105 01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,920 chunk of the show where they were not together, but yet I 1106 01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:03,600 still felt like the love, like I still felt the longing. 1107 01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,680 And I'm like, especially coming from him. 1108 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:11,080 And like, even if they didn't, even if there was so many scenes 1109 01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:15,800 without them together, I still felt like, oh, this is a love 1110 01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,520 story. Like, I feel it across, like 1111 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:25,480 across from like I just, I yeah, he was portraying it really well 1112 01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,960 on his own. Really, really well. 1113 01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:29,680 Like really well. So yeah. 1114 01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:37,560 Someone wanted us to talk about Kilche's character growth and 1115 01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,560 him being the greenest flag ever. 1116 01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:44,760 I think we have touched on that. Someone wanted us to talk about 1117 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,040 the metaphors of their love, like the sound of flowers on the 1118 01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:51,320 moon thing. OK, so talking about their love 1119 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:55,800 story. There were, I mean, he fell in 1120 01:07:55,800 --> 01:08:02,200 love with her at first sight #1 and he said, I think in episode 1121 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:05,600 I have it here, episode seven, he says. 1122 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,760 Did I tell you when you smile, I can hear the spring flowers 1123 01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:13,120 bloom? Let me just, let's just end the 1124 01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,479 episode right here. Because like, he can hear the 1125 01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:20,520 fucking flowers bloom when she smiles. 1126 01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:24,240 Are you fucking kidding me? This is romance. 1127 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:31,760 This is romance. OK, so this metaphor of him 1128 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,240 hearing the sound of flowers and at the end of the show, it comes 1129 01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,560 back again when she's like, why don't you remind me what did you 1130 01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:42,040 hear when you first saw me? And he says he remembers that he 1131 01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:45,040 heard the sound of he heard flowers, which flowers make no 1132 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,120 noise. It's like amazing. 1133 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:54,560 An amazing, like, juxtaposition. It's so poetic for him to say 1134 01:08:55,319 --> 01:08:57,120 literally he's like, do you hear that? 1135 01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:01,439 And his buddy's like, Nah man, he's like, I hear the flowers. 1136 01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,960 That was such a good scene. That was such a good scene, 1137 01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:05,960 yeah. And the fact that he heard of. 1138 01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:09,040 Such a great scene. I believe it was his servant 1139 01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:14,800 first when he he was in love with his sister and he's like, I 1140 01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,399 I he said the same thing, right? He said when she smiles like 1141 01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:21,279 weird sound of flowers And so he's like, well, that's weird as 1142 01:09:21,279 --> 01:09:23,600 a kid. That's what love is. 1143 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,720 That means to me is he learned what love is through that 1144 01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:30,560 relationship between the slave in his household and his older 1145 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,880 sister, and that crashed and burned. 1146 01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,000 But he kept that like sound of flowers. 1147 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:40,240 So then when it happened, it's like, oh, this is what he was 1148 01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:43,240 talking about. This is it, He. 1149 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,399 Loved it. Which you can see how that is a 1150 01:09:46,399 --> 01:09:54,080 very sad visual slash like metaphor for their relationship, 1151 01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:58,040 I think. Because flowers don't last. 1152 01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,480 Good point. That's a good point. 1153 01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:10,200 Flowers wither and bloom all the time, and the sound of flowers 1154 01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:14,000 like that's another level of like it doesn't exist. 1155 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,840 Like the sound of flowers doesn't exist. 1156 01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:22,480 First of all, doesn't exist. They wither so, so. 1157 01:10:22,480 --> 01:10:27,720 Fast. It is a stunning, beautiful 1158 01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,840 line. If your man doesn't hear the 1159 01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,520 flowers bloom when you smile, he's not the one. 1160 01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:39,240 OK, break up. He is not the one. 1161 01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,120 He has to hear for flowers. OK, Bloom. 1162 01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:43,440 Yeah. Hear flowers bloom and then the 1163 01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:46,440 moon thing. He has to hear the flowers move. 1164 01:10:46,440 --> 01:10:48,640 So and then the moon thing, which was the other thing this 1165 01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,240 person wanted us to talk about. Did you want to take over the 1166 01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,720 moon thing? I have no notes on the moon. 1167 01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:59,120 I love the moon. I literally have a wallpaper of 1168 01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,840 the moon. Quit. 1169 01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:05,320 I'm serious. I'm so serious. 1170 01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,680 Like I have a a wallpaper of the moon. 1171 01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:10,760 You do? Oh my God. 1172 01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,680 Talk to me, Moon. Girl, I think it's just so it's 1173 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,360 kind of like the whole flowers thing, like you said. 1174 01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:20,400 Like they they bloom, they wither, and then another one 1175 01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,080 comes out. It's like there's always a new 1176 01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:25,120 moon, you know? You always have. 1177 01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,280 Which means no moon. And it's just, I love the fact 1178 01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,400 that he's like every time there's this moon, this 1179 01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,040 beautiful new moon. And he didn't say New Moon, but 1180 01:11:34,480 --> 01:11:37,160 I'm always meeting you like this and I think that is so beautiful 1181 01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:39,480 because. Yeah, yeah. 1182 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,400 They kept the meeting on like the full moon. 1183 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,920 Which is like. Which is once a month, right? 1184 01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,440 Yes, literally once a month. I don't know. 1185 01:11:47,440 --> 01:11:53,040 I just think it's such AI love. I love the idea of like, there's 1186 01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,440 always something new coming, you know? 1187 01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:59,080 There's always like a new thing coming, especially in your life 1188 01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,880 when you know things go bad or whatever. 1189 01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:03,720 There's always hope for something else, hope for 1190 01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:05,640 something new. And the fact that there's always 1191 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:09,280 like a new moon, it dies out. It goes into Half Moon, it goes 1192 01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:13,040 into like, you know, no moon. And then it goes back into it. 1193 01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,720 No, Right. Just like just like flowers. 1194 01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,920 They withered and then the other one blooms. 1195 01:12:21,480 --> 01:12:25,520 So I just think it's. I just think it's so beautiful 1196 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:29,560 that he's like that he was watching the the moon. 1197 01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:32,040 Oh, we were spoilers at the end, right? 1198 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:35,360 Where was he? Yeah. 1199 01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:39,720 We're in sport, yeah, yeah, Someone said. 1200 01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,600 Let's see. I'm thinking of characters. 1201 01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:46,360 Oh, please cover the relationship between unne and 1202 01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,240 kilche. It's so underrated. 1203 01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,480 So what do you think about the female relationships in this 1204 01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:53,400 show? I love them. 1205 01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:59,160 I thought it was like, as much as I love the romance, I loved 1206 01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:00,720 what they. I mean, obviously not not what 1207 01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:04,520 they went through, but how they just went through it all 1208 01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:06,440 together. And they always stuck together. 1209 01:13:06,440 --> 01:13:11,000 And they were like as whether one one of them was about to die 1210 01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,760 or one was, you know, about to give up or one was about to, you 1211 01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:17,600 know, you know, end it. They always reach out for each 1212 01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:18,920 other. They always were like, Nope, 1213 01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,960 which is mostly Gilche who was like, let's do it. 1214 01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:23,800 Let's do it. Like, no, we got it. 1215 01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,480 We got this. And you know, I love there's 1216 01:13:26,480 --> 01:13:29,000 this, you know, regarding them too. 1217 01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:35,520 There's this scene disclaimer where a barbarian, they're this 1218 01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,760 is literally right after left. They left Hungary, They're 1219 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:39,480 running away. They're. 1220 01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,840 This is part. One, it's winter, it's cold, 1221 01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:47,520 they separate for a little. No, Gilche goes in to look for 1222 01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:50,840 more resources. And Anne is like, kind of like, 1223 01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:53,760 where are you? So she goes after her and runs 1224 01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:58,640 into a barbarian. And a barbarian pretty much not 1225 01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:03,400 fully assaults her. But you know she encounters her 1226 01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:08,920 about to and then here comes Gilche and you know kills him. 1227 01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:13,160 She kills him. She's like And the fact that she 1228 01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:17,400 and it was like remembering what that old lady told her like if 1229 01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:20,280 you even encounter might as well just die. 1230 01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:22,480 And so she's like, OK, might as well die. 1231 01:14:22,480 --> 01:14:24,280 You know like who's going to want me like this. 1232 01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:27,240 And so guilty is like, no, that never happened. 1233 01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:29,840 I never killed a man. Yeah. 1234 01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,240 You never that this never happened. 1235 01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,600 OK. And I I think that's so powerful 1236 01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:42,720 because trigger warning, like when it's, you know, when people 1237 01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:46,080 that go through stuff like that and they go through healing and 1238 01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:49,600 stuff like that, there's this moment where it's like, you know 1239 01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,480 what? Where they go through the 1240 01:14:51,480 --> 01:14:54,120 healing process. And like, I'm a new person, you 1241 01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,800 know, I'm a new person. I'm not that defiled person 1242 01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:58,520 anymore. You know, they believe that. 1243 01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:00,600 And so I thought it was very powerful because she was like, 1244 01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:05,960 no, you're still pure believe that you're pure girl. 1245 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,600 You still like you still got everything that you're Matt 1246 01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,400 wants like don't even like this is my own personal take. 1247 01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,200 But I thought it was just very powerful between the two. 1248 01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:18,960 And ever since then, even though Anne already kind of, you know, 1249 01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,440 loved her and and, you know, kind of look after her, even 1250 01:15:22,440 --> 01:15:24,160 though Gilche was trying to get Herman. 1251 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,000 But you can see that there was still affection within each 1252 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,480 other. And ever since then, like, she's 1253 01:15:30,480 --> 01:15:36,760 like, no, I got to make sure that she's OK to the point that 1254 01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:39,800 she gets sick when when she gets, you know, taken away, 1255 01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,440 which I'm like, well, damn, yeah, damn. 1256 01:15:42,480 --> 01:15:45,360 Yeah. I think this is a very special 1257 01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:48,680 relationship. It's one between wildly 1258 01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,400 different personalities, like these two women could not be. 1259 01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:53,360 More different. And I love that so much. 1260 01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,240 Love it. I know, I I love that. 1261 01:15:56,240 --> 01:16:02,760 And there is definite jealousy, like from Kilche toward Inne, 1262 01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:04,760 because Inne has the man that she wants. 1263 01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:15,120 And the fact that Kilche is so powerful in their journey to 1264 01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:21,760 survive and escape and find refuge during the invasion and 1265 01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:25,440 even afterward, like when they have no money and they're 1266 01:16:25,440 --> 01:16:26,560 starving. Like guilt. 1267 01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,240 Just the one that really leads the charge and creates that 1268 01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:33,880 business and starts to feed them through her own creative means, 1269 01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:37,880 through her own skills and business savvy. 1270 01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,800 Unn. You feel like she is naive. 1271 01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,480 She's a fool. You feel like she doesn't 1272 01:16:45,480 --> 01:16:49,560 understand that guilt just going for her man, like loves her man. 1273 01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:56,560 You feel like Unn is just sort of, like, useless because she 1274 01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,160 faints when the baby's being born. 1275 01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:02,240 She's not even a help there. She's like dead weight in the in 1276 01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:08,000 the group, and even afterward, when they're trying to make ends 1277 01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,200 meet after the invasion and there's peace, relative peace in 1278 01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:15,240 the land. Anne is not the one who's, you 1279 01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:18,800 know, getting her hands dirty the way that Gilche is. 1280 01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:24,400 And despite all that, like they really come to a deep 1281 01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,880 understanding and not deep sisterhood between all of those 1282 01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,440 women, even the the slaves slash servants. 1283 01:17:30,440 --> 01:17:36,200 They go with them on this journey and there is a a bond 1284 01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:39,240 and a camaraderie that they have that the men never. 1285 01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:42,280 You don't see that with. Them really achieve in the same 1286 01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:43,760 way? Yeah, like their friends and 1287 01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:45,480 their buddies and they care for each other and they would die 1288 01:17:45,480 --> 01:17:48,160 for each other. But, like, have you ever stopped 1289 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:52,840 your friend from being raped? That's like, like, this is a new 1290 01:17:52,840 --> 01:18:00,240 level of trust and compassion between each other and 1291 01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:04,840 understanding on a deep level. And one day I feel like it's 1292 01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:06,680 really special. Because she. 1293 01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:11,800 It turns out that even though she subscribes to all of these 1294 01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,480 ideals that they've trained into them like these patriarchal 1295 01:18:14,480 --> 01:18:19,080 ideals and the Confucian ideals of you need to kill yourself. 1296 01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:25,440 If you are even remotely defiled by a barbarian, that's your duty 1297 01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,280 as a as a woman, as a wife or whatever. 1298 01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,200 Don't come back because it's shameful. 1299 01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:35,040 Like you should die. You should be willing to die for 1300 01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:38,360 your purity. And even though she subscribes 1301 01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:45,720 to that, she is very surprised when Yongjun is like, so upfront 1302 01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:49,640 about it later in the show. And he's like spouting these 1303 01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:54,600 ideals to her face and she it's very brave of her to say that's. 1304 01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:56,760 Kind of shocked. Not going to lie, I almost got 1305 01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:01,280 raped. Yeah, even though I didn't like 1306 01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:05,680 he, like, touched me and like, should I kill myself? 1307 01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:10,800 And she sort of challenges him, you know what I'm saying? 1308 01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:12,880 Like it? It would have been so easy for 1309 01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:14,280 her to just shut up. Right. 1310 01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:19,320 And not say anything and not. Tell her story and she says no. 1311 01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:25,000 Like Kilchek killed the guy and I'm here because of her. 1312 01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:30,240 We all are shit. Like what? 1313 01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:31,800 What are you going to do about it? 1314 01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:33,760 You know what I'm saying? Like, it's a fair challenge that 1315 01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:37,040 she poses to Yonjun and it like, breaks him and we can talk about 1316 01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:41,120 him in a SEC. But I think that one is very 1317 01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:44,960 compassionate and good-natured, and that's something she has in 1318 01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:48,400 common with her equivalent character, Melanie in Gone With 1319 01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:52,880 the Wind. And same as Melanie who in Gone 1320 01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,760 With the Wind, she's the one who's pregnant and Scarlett 1321 01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:58,840 delivers her baby under the rest. 1322 01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:03,440 But besides that being like a switcheroo that they did in this 1323 01:20:03,440 --> 01:20:08,920 story, I think that she's very motherly. 1324 01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:14,080 Yes. And I I think that the way that 1325 01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:19,840 Gilche is so aggressive and like domineering at times and so 1326 01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:24,880 powerful, Una is very much like a feminine archetype and they 1327 01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:28,640 complement each other really well in their friendship. 1328 01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:32,080 And I love how Una is like a ride or die for Gilche. 1329 01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:36,200 Gilche is a ride or die for everybody around her, but Inne 1330 01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:39,520 is also a writer. Die for Kilchi, and she's always 1331 01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:44,840 advocating for her when she gets kidnapped to the Ching Dynasty. 1332 01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:47,280 Like she is the one that's like, you need to do something. 1333 01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:49,960 We need to get her back. I'm going to go get her myself. 1334 01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,280 Oh, she's so. Cute. 1335 01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,120 And that was a big I know she's so cute and that was a big 1336 01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:58,280 moment for her to be like she would do the same for me. 1337 01:20:58,280 --> 01:20:59,760 Yes. Yes. 1338 01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:03,560 How can I not try and get her back? 1339 01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:06,280 Love. That she had a certainty like 1340 01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:11,400 she would. Yeah, yes, she had a certainty. 1341 01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:16,120 I like that word. Yeah, yeah, I honestly, I love 1342 01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,480 that. I honestly feel like although 1343 01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:23,520 she was naive, I feel like and this could just be me, that when 1344 01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:25,840 you know, when they were younger, when they were still 1345 01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:31,760 teens, I feel like she knew that, you know, guilty was after 1346 01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:36,160 Yunjun. I feel like she knew, but she 1347 01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:39,600 just was like, I don't know, she was like, you know, like, yeah, 1348 01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:41,800 she is. But like, I know who she really 1349 01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:44,560 loves. So she just needs to like, you 1350 01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:46,320 know, figure that out. So it's OK. 1351 01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,640 I feel like there's, I think there was a scene where she's 1352 01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:57,880 like where she told when he told Male Lead, she told him like, I 1353 01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,720 know she's kind of after Yunjun or am I making that up? 1354 01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:05,160 No, no, no, she did say like I She doesn't realize it now, but 1355 01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:05,720 she loves you. She. 1356 01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:07,800 Doesn't realize it now, but she does love you because she's 1357 01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:11,680 she's. She looked at you during the 1358 01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:14,360 announcement that they were going to war, that there was an 1359 01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:17,880 invasion, and she looked at you and everyone was looking at the 1360 01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:20,880 person they most cared about. And she was, like, concerned and 1361 01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,520 looked at you. So I know that deep down she 1362 01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:26,480 loves you. She you're the person she's 1363 01:22:26,480 --> 01:22:29,960 worried about, even if she doesn't realize it. 1364 01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:33,600 So she one is very astute. Yeah. 1365 01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:37,360 Because since day one, she was like, Oh yeah, Gilche loves 1366 01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:42,720 Tony. No, out of my mind, yeah, yeah. 1367 01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:47,360 Someone said it was interesting seeing what the female 1368 01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:50,200 characters went through, and it made me think about purity 1369 01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:56,280 culture as a whole. So I guess we need to talk a 1370 01:22:56,280 --> 01:23:04,560 little bit about just that and how they I almost want to just 1371 01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:09,280 bring up Yong Joon and his bullshit because he that's 1372 01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:14,120 Ashley like that character. Because he done lost his fucking 1373 01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:18,560 mind in the last few episodes. He lost his fucking mind in the 1374 01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:20,920 last few episodes. No, for real. 1375 01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:29,560 I'm like because like, bra, bra. What do you mean? 1376 01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:31,560 What do you mean? You're preaching, You're 1377 01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:35,640 preaching to the women about how they need to commit suicide, and 1378 01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:40,240 you don't even want to go on an envoy to the Ching because you 1379 01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,120 know it's a suicide mission, and it's. 1380 01:23:42,480 --> 01:23:45,200 Like this is that's. Exactly what you're a coward you 1381 01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,320 know about. Exactly what you just said, yes. 1382 01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:53,600 OK, he's a coward. Since the beginning and and and 1383 01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,880 Hyun Jiang Hyun, he calls him out for it and I love that scene 1384 01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:00,200 so much when he's like you're. Yes, I love that scene as well 1385 01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:01,880 because. He's like, you're a coward 1386 01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:05,320 because you do like her, but you feel like you can't handle her, 1387 01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:10,200 so you just leave on and so and you're a coward. 1388 01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:12,800 And I'm like, I love that scene, but yeah, he's a coward. 1389 01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,720 Yeah, that was a really frustrating aspect of the show 1390 01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:21,520 Was not only that the guys were just kind of at odds with each 1391 01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:26,760 other and Yongjun was a a little bitch like for the whole of the 1392 01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:30,360 show, but like the purity, the fact that the women are so 1393 01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:37,080 strong throughout everything. And it was very heart wrenching 1394 01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:43,760 to see so many like women. Not not just our main like 4 1395 01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:47,280 ladies, but like there were other women who were choosing to 1396 01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:53,000 commit suicide throughout the show just to get away from the 1397 01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:57,600 shame of being raped by a barbarian or being sexually 1398 01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:59,720 assaulted or put in sexual slavery. 1399 01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,200 Because that reality is very real and I don't. 1400 01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:08,240 I don't, I will never presume to know what the right answer is. 1401 01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:11,880 Like if I'm in that situation, would I jump off a Cliff or 1402 01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:15,560 would I choose to live? I think the show is trying to 1403 01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:21,360 say that you should strive to live, that it's not a shame to 1404 01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:26,040 experience that, and that it's it's not the end of the world. 1405 01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:32,000 You can heal through this even if society is dead fucking set 1406 01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:36,880 against you. So yeah. 1407 01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:41,400 That is the message that I think the show is trying to. 1408 01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:44,880 To say I agree, I I I definitely. 1409 01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:51,360 Because even even when Crown Prince who took him there, was 1410 01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:55,680 it was it he, John Young? Was it him who took him to the 1411 01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:58,840 marketplace in Shimyang? Who? 1412 01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:00,560 I can't remember. Someone took him there. 1413 01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:02,760 I can't remember who took him there, but he went because he 1414 01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:04,440 needed. Did he need farmers at? 1415 01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:05,440 Is it farm? No. 1416 01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:07,800 What did he need? Like? 1417 01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:09,040 I don't remember. I'm sorry. 1418 01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:11,240 Everything's jumbling, but he need. 1419 01:26:11,440 --> 01:26:12,360 It's OK. It's a long show. 1420 01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:18,040 But he, they took him to the marketplace where he saw the the 1421 01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:20,880 captives there and how they're being treated and how. 1422 01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:25,720 And there's this scene where they're auctioning off some of 1423 01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:30,720 the captives and one of them is a female and she's like she's a 1424 01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:34,600 virgin and everybody in the car is like show, I wanna see more, 1425 01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,880 I wanna see more. And so they don't show it on 1426 01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:43,640 screen, but it's implied that they show her private parts of 1427 01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:49,320 her body and he literally just he books it to like a corner and 1428 01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:55,560 started like throwing up and he says like why would she bring 1429 01:26:55,600 --> 01:27:00,080 shame on her country like that? Yeah, he starts trying her. 1430 01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:03,080 Bro, I just get so triggered when that happens. 1431 01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:06,440 I'm like. It's so triggering it, really. 1432 01:27:06,440 --> 01:27:09,160 Is not. But yeah, like, yeah, that scene 1433 01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:13,920 was like, bro, no, like. Wrong approach, wrong thing to 1434 01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:15,640 say. Absolutely wrong approach. 1435 01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:19,360 Like you saw everything that's going on with your people and 1436 01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:21,880 that's what you're gonna say. You're gonna say and. 1437 01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:26,320 As if she had a choice. As if exactly as if she had a 1438 01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:27,960 choice. As if they have a choice. 1439 01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,680 The other choice that he's talking about is death. 1440 01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:35,480 He's just like, oh why is she choosing to go for this? 1441 01:27:35,480 --> 01:27:38,120 Because the other option is she could just be dead. 1442 01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:44,080 Dead. I'm like, OK, you know, And I 1443 01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:47,520 think it was what's that one girl's name, which I'm just 1444 01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:49,640 gonna say right now, I don't really like her. 1445 01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:53,680 She's the Princess of. The Crown Princess. 1446 01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:55,440 That's the crown. Princess, not his wife. 1447 01:27:56,440 --> 01:27:59,640 All girl the Ching Princess. Girl, that home. 1448 01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:01,840 Girl, OK. That bitch girl, OK? 1449 01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:03,800 Girl. Yeah. 1450 01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:08,600 So I didn't like her. I didn't like her. 1451 01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:09,520 I'm just going to say that right now. 1452 01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:10,520 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 1453 01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:14,120 I don't like her. When she was like what? 1454 01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:17,560 You know, looking at, she's like how like the fact that you 1455 01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:20,640 people, you chosen people, you know, went through all the 1456 01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:24,400 humiliation, that you look so pathetic, still still trying to 1457 01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:28,560 strive to live after being enslaved after going through all 1458 01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:30,280 this. And then then I'm just like girl 1459 01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:33,960 like you sound so dumb right now. 1460 01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:36,680 I know you. I know you sound dumb. 1461 01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:37,080 You're. Saying. 1462 01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,400 Sit down, girl. Sit, sit down, sit down. 1463 01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:44,120 And you're saying this to the guy that you Segun sorry, 1464 01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:48,120 supposedly. Like So it's like she's like not 1465 01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:49,680 impressed. You don't know who you're 1466 01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:51,200 talking. To right now, OK, this is a 1467 01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,720 whole of it. Like, that is character and her 1468 01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:55,520 mentality is like a whole other side. 1469 01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:56,920 I know. They're conversation, but. 1470 01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:57,560 Yeah. OK. 1471 01:28:58,280 --> 01:28:58,680 Great. Great. 1472 01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:07,560 Yes, girl, that's that's not OK. But on that note, on that note, 1473 01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:11,800 like on this topic, someone said that they wanted us to talk 1474 01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:14,160 about the line he gives her in episode 17. 1475 01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:18,360 I love Gilche and lists all of the qualities of her. 1476 01:29:18,440 --> 01:29:22,920 So I have the line here. Two people actually wanted us to 1477 01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:24,960 talk about this, that line when he listed all the parts that he 1478 01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:30,000 liked about her. So this is episode 17, he says. 1479 01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:31,960 Do you not you? Do you still not understand how 1480 01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:34,120 I feel? For me, you are enough. 1481 01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:37,160 Poor Gilche. Wealthy Gilche. 1482 01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:39,800 Cheeky Gilche. Gentle Gilche. 1483 01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:43,560 Gilche, who does not love me? Kilche who does. 1484 01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:46,320 All I need is Kilche. All I need is you. 1485 01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:52,400 And she at this point had already sort of implied that 1486 01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:55,720 something happened to her while she was a captive. 1487 01:29:56,320 --> 01:30:00,800 And she says, like, this is huge for her to after the divorce, 1488 01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:06,640 after everything, after he's finally here back with her, like 1489 01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:10,480 this is the love of her life. And she's about to tell her how, 1490 01:30:10,480 --> 01:30:13,840 tell him something that she got divorced over. 1491 01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:20,640 So she says very bravely, what about Kilche, who was defiled? 1492 01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:26,800 And I don't think I was breathing at this point. 1493 01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:30,320 Like I was holding my breath, like I knew he wasn't going to 1494 01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:33,960 say something shit, but I was still like, Oh yeah, what is he 1495 01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:37,400 going to say? He says the perfect thing. 1496 01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:44,360 He says I'd embrace her and hugs her and says you must have 1497 01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:48,040 suffered so much. But even if you push me away, 1498 01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:51,920 I'll be by your side from now on tonight can I hold you? 1499 01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:57,120 And they finally kiss and she kisses him back and and I'm 1500 01:30:57,120 --> 01:31:01,360 like, I needed to pause the show at that point I was. 1501 01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:02,640 Like. I. 1502 01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:07,880 Need a minute? Yeah, he. 1503 01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:12,280 Could not have had a more perfect reaction. 1504 01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:16,480 Yeah. To her confessing that she had 1505 01:31:16,480 --> 01:31:20,440 gone through a whole era of sexual assault in her life, 1506 01:31:20,440 --> 01:31:23,640 yeah. And I think what hit me the 1507 01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:27,080 most, not the most, but really just was like, he didn't make it 1508 01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:31,320 about himself at all. I just like he didn't make it 1509 01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:33,720 about himself. Like I feel like. 1510 01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:36,480 Which is? He didn't say, like, well, I 1511 01:31:36,480 --> 01:31:38,440 feel like shut up. No, Like, you know, or like a 1512 01:31:38,440 --> 01:31:40,400 man. Like, what is this need for me? 1513 01:31:40,440 --> 01:31:42,320 Like, it's not about you right now. 1514 01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:45,080 It's not about you right now. You know he didn't. 1515 01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:46,600 Bring it back. To himself. 1516 01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:49,480 He didn't make it about himself or how he feels or anything. 1517 01:31:49,480 --> 01:31:53,240 He focused on how you must have, you must have suffered, you 1518 01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:55,680 know. I love that, Love that. 1519 01:31:56,720 --> 01:32:01,560 I love the complex emotions playing on his face that he's he 1520 01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:04,360 already knew what she was going to say, OK? 1521 01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:09,080 I have no doubt that he already suspected that this happened. 1522 01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:13,160 He's smart and she had already like started broached the 1523 01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:18,960 conversation with this in mind and he read the tea leaves on it 1524 01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:22,160 OK way long ago and he still was there. 1525 01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:25,200 Like when she finally confessed he was heartbroken. 1526 01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:30,840 Yeah. And went to comfort her like 1527 01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:32,480 this is huge I. Know. 1528 01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:43,000 The juxtaposed that to Young. Tune So Girl. 1529 01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:46,840 I could not. I was like, ain't the one. 1530 01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:50,600 If I had cabbage, if I had Rotten Tomatoes, I would have 1531 01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:54,840 thrown it at the screen when good name was talking to Yunjun 1532 01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:57,120 about almost getting raped. The quasi rape. 1533 01:32:57,640 --> 01:33:00,000 Which is still fucking traumatic. 1534 01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:06,520 Traumatic as fuck, OK? And he's like, shocked. 1535 01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:06,920 What? How? 1536 01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:11,360 How does this mean for me? This is like crippling my world. 1537 01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:13,520 What I say? How could you? 1538 01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:16,800 How could you lie to me like he was saying every fucking wrong 1539 01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:17,040 thing. Yeah. 1540 01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:17,680 Me. How can you? 1541 01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:21,440 Yeah. Made it by himself. 1542 01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:28,160 Made it about him. Anyway, so this, that was a big 1543 01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:34,080 part of like the way that they got together, Kilche and 1544 01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:37,760 Changyun, that was a big turning point for them and their 1545 01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:40,800 relationship. And after that they have sex 1546 01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:42,520 too. Like, we we go into the bedroom 1547 01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:46,480 with them and I'm like, Oh my God, this is amazing. 1548 01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:49,640 It wasn't gratuitous though. They didn't show anything. 1549 01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:51,600 Like just in case you're listening to this and you 1550 01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:55,920 haven't watched the show. Like it wasn't like suddenly NC 1551 01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:57,040 17 in here. Beautiful scene. 1552 01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:58,920 It was a beautiful. Scene. 1553 01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:01,240 It was beautiful. It was very intimate and it was 1554 01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:09,080 on her terms because earlier in the show he had saved her, he 1555 01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:13,600 had rescued her out of slavery and then she was kind of living 1556 01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:17,240 with him because he was still injured from that like arrow in 1557 01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:20,360 the back. That's a whole nother fucking 1558 01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:23,400 thing. But he's so fine and he was like 1559 01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:27,120 pretending to be injured for a while so that she would stay and 1560 01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:31,480 take care of him and so cute cure his little Boo boos and 1561 01:34:31,480 --> 01:34:35,960 stuff and he comes on to her real strong. 1562 01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:40,240 Like do you remember he was like changing his, like dressing on 1563 01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:44,280 the on his and they showed his body and I was like, OK, Nam 1564 01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:48,360 Kunman is like walking. Ripped Loki I'm not going to 1565 01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:51,880 lie, he is jacked. I feel ashamed, but I was very 1566 01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:57,280 shocked that he was like that. Jacked that was not expecting 1567 01:34:57,280 --> 01:35:02,920 like disrespectfully, disrespectfully, like hot. 1568 01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:08,080 Damn. So he's there, you Sir. 1569 01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:11,880 But yeah. I underestimate the truth. 1570 01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:16,400 That ass. No. 1571 01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:22,600 OK, so sorry, sorry. Oh God. 1572 01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:25,400 I need to. I need to calm down. 1573 01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:29,600 So you're fanning yourself. So there's that scene where he 1574 01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:33,920 is half naked. He puts on like a his hat, his 1575 01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:37,360 shirt or something and then walks over to her and he kisses 1576 01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:40,480 her on her forehead and like cradles her face. 1577 01:35:40,480 --> 01:35:43,200 And I'm like, this is so amazing and intimate, but she's not 1578 01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:45,280 really reciprocating at that point. 1579 01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:49,400 It I didn't tell that. She's very hurt and nervous and 1580 01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:52,240 she's technically still married at this point, so she is has a 1581 01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:56,720 lot of stuff going on. But the second time around when 1582 01:35:56,720 --> 01:36:02,840 he says that he loves all parts of her, right, he is completely 1583 01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:04,840 in love with her. He loves her good side and he 1584 01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:08,360 loves her bad side. He loves everything. 1585 01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:10,560 Like everything that she's been through, it's OK. 1586 01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:15,960 And at that, it's at that point where she trusts him enough with 1587 01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:21,080 her story, with her experience, with her pain that she lets him 1588 01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:24,120 in and they finally have sex and everyone's happy for them. 1589 01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:29,520 But it was a process to get there because back in Chang back 1590 01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:32,480 when she was taking care of him and she was technically free and 1591 01:36:32,480 --> 01:36:35,840 could I think she could have had sex with him whatever back then 1592 01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:39,160 because even if she was still married her husband abandoned 1593 01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:43,600 her. If I was her I would have been 1594 01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:49,960 like let's go but beside the point where he at where he room 1595 01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:56,920 at time to come down. Is it is it this to right I will 1596 01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:57,880 go wherever. OK. 1597 01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:04,200 I have someone said. Someone said every time he 1598 01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:07,160 confessed to her no matter what happened to her that was that. 1599 01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:10,080 I think that same scene and everyone was fucking reeling 1600 01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:15,640 over episode 17 and that perfect confession from him which he had 1601 01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:18,040 confessed to her little by little throughout the show. 1602 01:37:18,480 --> 01:37:22,880 But it like this is the one that really shook people up. 1603 01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:28,160 I think talking about her sexual assault experiences, someone 1604 01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:31,800 said how let's we had to talk about how they didn't show 1605 01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:34,280 unnecessary rapes but suggested it. 1606 01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:38,640 And I also think this is really important because there's some 1607 01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:45,880 films and shows that are super out of pocket with rape scenes 1608 01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:51,440 and the show did not at all like, besides the fact that it's 1609 01:37:51,440 --> 01:37:55,560 airing on NBC, not Netflix or Amazon Prime or whatever. 1610 01:37:55,560 --> 01:38:00,640 The fuck They did not. They chose a very tasteful way 1611 01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:05,080 of presenting really horrific violence toward women. 1612 01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:08,480 And I appreciate that. Yeah. 1613 01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:12,520 I didn't think they need to go that far. 1614 01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:16,840 Yeah. And they they just suggested and 1615 01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:20,760 and the fact that she says it without us having seen it, like 1616 01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:24,360 we can all up assume that this happened to her. 1617 01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:30,960 But you know, her voicing it is more impactful than us seeing 1618 01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,960 it. Yeah, because it must be so hard 1619 01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:36,800 to say it out loud and then. Oh my God. 1620 01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:39,120 Said say it out loud too. You know the man she's in love 1621 01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:41,160 with? Too Woo she. 1622 01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:47,160 I think it's even more evident when he reaches for her. 1623 01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:53,080 By the way, can I just say I love that scene, I love that 1624 01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:57,560 scene when he when he finds out that she's there and she's being 1625 01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:00,360 auctioned off. Oh, fuck off. 1626 01:39:01,440 --> 01:39:03,240 Fuck off. I love that scene. 1627 01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:06,880 It had me. Balling it had me like I was 1628 01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:12,600 like, like I I was speechless. I was breathless, like my heart 1629 01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:18,720 was like not in like I. Fuck out of here like that scene 1630 01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:24,080 was written and acted. He did so good and I was kind of 1631 01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:27,200 nervous on how that scene was going to play out because it was 1632 01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:31,280 like like that's so difficult. It could go either way. 1633 01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:35,480 It could be like kind of like unclimited or like anti 1634 01:39:35,480 --> 01:39:37,880 climactic. Yeah, yeah, it could be anti 1635 01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:40,880 climactic, but it. Wasn't be like, oh, you extra. 1636 01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:47,480 He was like, he was like, he's perfect, perfect. 1637 01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:52,640 I know from the I know when he spots her through the crowd and 1638 01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:57,800 she's like like she's you could see that she's just praying that 1639 01:39:57,800 --> 01:40:03,480 he doesn't see her because she's so prideful and so ashamed of 1640 01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:06,560 her situation. And I would be too. 1641 01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:09,800 Like if I if the love of my life, if I saw the love of my 1642 01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:14,000 life in that situation, I would be like, you know, one of two 1643 01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:16,640 minds, one of be like, get me the fuck out of here or #2, I'd 1644 01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:19,840 be like, please, I don't want you to see me like this. 1645 01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,040 Exactly. And that's how she. 1646 01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:26,400 Felt it, was she. And he just like cuts through 1647 01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:29,520 the crowd. He's mowing down people 1648 01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:32,240 aggressively, trying to get to her. 1649 01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:36,760 And then he comes up just devastated and screaming. 1650 01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:40,440 Why? Yeah, so good. 1651 01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:45,320 And I'm like a pause. I need to calm down. 1652 01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:47,360 I had to pause and I was like, crying. 1653 01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:51,400 I'm like, I'm like that. Is that was how the episode 1654 01:40:51,400 --> 01:40:53,200 ended? Yes, that is right. 1655 01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:57,560 That was like, what was that like 13 or 4 episode 14 or 1656 01:40:57,560 --> 01:40:58,600 something? I think so. 1657 01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:01,080 One of those. Around there I. 1658 01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:07,240 That was my heart was bounding and I was crying and yeah, he 1659 01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:09,040 did amazing. She did really well. 1660 01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:12,720 She did so good too. It them together in that scene 1661 01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:17,280 was just like oh holy holy smokes but when he reaches for 1662 01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:20,920 her her shoulder she like does this. 1663 01:41:21,240 --> 01:41:24,520 And she. Oh, I was and I was like that is 1664 01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:29,120 the evidence right there. And I think he he also like he 1665 01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:32,600 though he was he put two and two together that moment as well And 1666 01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:34,200 I'm like. Yes. 1667 01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:38,680 Thank, yeah. I don't. 1668 01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:41,200 I don't know. I don't even know what. 1669 01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:45,360 That's, that's that has to be one of my favorite scenes, one 1670 01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:48,720 of my favorite scenes for sure. It is pitch perfect the way they 1671 01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:51,520 did that scene. But OK, let me see. 1672 01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:56,680 Someone said they wanted us to talk, to talk about Mr. Goo, 1673 01:41:56,960 --> 01:42:02,280 Ryangam, Yongjun and how these men have been trash all along. 1674 01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:05,280 And I was like cool. Say like, yeah, no. 1675 01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:09,280 Trash. Mr. Goo is her husband. 1676 01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:11,720 Because there's like a lot of Mr. Goo's and I figured it was 1677 01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:15,120 the husband. Mr. Goo is the husband. 1678 01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:19,960 Then you have Ashley, Yongjun and Ryangam which is one of the 1679 01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:23,040 besties, one of his the the gay best friend. 1680 01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:28,840 Let's talk about Ryangam first, because he is the the represent 1681 01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:34,800 the LGBTQ plus representation in this show and I thought that for 1682 01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:39,000 the for the largest part of the show I was so annoyed. 1683 01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:43,520 With him. Absolutely could not stand. 1684 01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:44,240 Him. Yeah, same. 1685 01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:50,040 Could he's so. I mean, he's so obviously loved. 1686 01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:53,800 Zhang Hyun, respected and admired him, would die for him. 1687 01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:58,880 But he was openly jealous of Kilche and multiple times 1688 01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:02,800 sabotaged their relationship. Say that again please, Yes. 1689 01:43:03,440 --> 01:43:09,280 He's a saboteur. OK, Yes, so I could. 1690 01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:15,880 He was like the best the the gay best friend from hell to me and 1691 01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:20,880 I couldn't. I could not get behind him and 1692 01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:26,520 have sympathy for him until much, much later in Part 2 when 1693 01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:30,560 they showed more of his back story and more of how he came 1694 01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:32,200 into the fold and Chung Hyun's life. 1695 01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:39,440 And how he was basically a child sex slave in the household of 1696 01:43:39,440 --> 01:43:44,440 some nobleman there who was literally torturing him if he 1697 01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:49,920 perceives some sort of sexual advance from somebody else that 1698 01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:54,120 he accepted as a child. Literally a child. 1699 01:43:55,040 --> 01:44:01,800 And he had this whole journey in Ark himself, and I felt that the 1700 01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:03,760 show maybe didn't do his character. 1701 01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:08,200 Justice at all. I agree, because I'm not going 1702 01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:11,520 to lie, he wasn't really some scenes. 1703 01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:13,320 He was. But a lot of the times he wasn't 1704 01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:16,680 really doing it for me. And I think I don't know if it's 1705 01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:20,680 the character or the actor, because I know. 1706 01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:24,280 I know because he's not like, he's not like a bad actor or 1707 01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:28,200 anything. It's just like he wasn't likable 1708 01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:31,160 to me the way that he was portraying. 1709 01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:35,920 Again, character writing or the way he was portraying it wasn't 1710 01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:40,440 likable, you know, in my opinion, because a lot of time 1711 01:44:40,440 --> 01:44:45,600 he was just like, OK, you know? And I'm like. 1712 01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:47,960 I guess he wasn't giving. He just wasn't giving. 1713 01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:54,720 Personally, again, it's just how I how I saw it and it. 1714 01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:57,320 Don't want to sit and this is a safe space. 1715 01:44:57,920 --> 01:44:59,520 That's how I don't worry. That's how I was like. 1716 01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:03,040 It's not making it better that I'm not liking this character 1717 01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:07,520 because it could be a likable character, but that way the way 1718 01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:10,640 he's portraying the characters making it not likable for me 1719 01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:15,560 until later on when he kind of. And maybe that's the point, 1720 01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:17,960 because later on he kind of figures out OK, when you love 1721 01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:21,400 Someone Like, You got to like it's not about you. 1722 01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:25,720 Yes. He starts to kind of subscribe 1723 01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:31,440 to Jang Hyung's level of love, where it's not necessarily about 1724 01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:35,440 me being with them, it's about them being happy. 1725 01:45:35,440 --> 01:45:37,840 Exactly. And that's when I was like, OK, 1726 01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:41,920 we're OK, right. That's about when I was like, 1727 01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:43,520 OK, I cannot. And then they were giving them 1728 01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:48,240 me that back story of him and I was like, OK, I can kind of see 1729 01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:51,560 him a little better. It's a little more in focus for 1730 01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:54,160 me. But again, for large parts of 1731 01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:57,480 the show, he was just like, so irritating. 1732 01:45:57,840 --> 01:45:59,320 He and. Was he? 1733 01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:02,640 Treated or talked to Gilche, I don't think that was fair. 1734 01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:04,760 Oh, oh. Out of pocket. 1735 01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:06,720 Just so unacceptable. Yeah. 1736 01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:09,640 And that that's what made me more frustrated towards him 1737 01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:14,200 because I'm like a brick. Like Brick? 1738 01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:18,920 Yeah, I think. And I I love that line when I 1739 01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:22,840 can't remember what it was, but I think that he Rangam went and 1740 01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:25,480 told Jong Hyun that she was a curse. 1741 01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:32,880 In which one she was enslaved in In by the chain And that she was 1742 01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:34,440 there, in that town that he was in. 1743 01:46:34,440 --> 01:46:38,160 Right. And he was like, why the fuck 1744 01:46:38,160 --> 01:46:40,800 didn't you tell me sooner, basically. 1745 01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:43,520 And he was like, well, I didn't want you to be with her. 1746 01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:47,680 Basically the audacity. Like, I'm. 1747 01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:51,880 I know at the audacity, but I'm paraphrasing and Dang Hyun 1748 01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:55,000 responds with That's because you don't know what she means to me. 1749 01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:56,160 I love. That. 1750 01:46:57,040 --> 01:46:59,960 You don't know what she means to me. 1751 01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:06,120 And that's when I think Jiang Jiang sort of change. 1752 01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:09,320 It starts to change his mentality around being with 1753 01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:12,920 Jiang Hyun and the fact that he's never going to going to 1754 01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:16,720 love him the same way that Jiang loves him, right. 1755 01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:21,400 Jiang is not looking for a same sex relationship like period. 1756 01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:27,400 And he's like, oh, but I do understand, like how you feel. 1757 01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:31,480 But he doesn't because he's not on the same level, right? 1758 01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:35,320 It's obsession and it's possession. 1759 01:47:35,400 --> 01:47:39,840 Territorial. Yes, exactly. 1760 01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:45,560 So Ryangam, I think they did him dirty, like with the writing and 1761 01:47:45,560 --> 01:47:49,240 even though he was extremely complex, I I just don't feel 1762 01:47:49,240 --> 01:47:55,120 like they did him well, especially him being the plot 1763 01:47:55,120 --> 01:48:00,280 device of the whole show. He ended up being he. 1764 01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:04,320 So there's two people wanted us to talk about this. 1765 01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:08,480 One person said they want us to talk about Youngam. 1766 01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:12,360 Why is his hair white when no one else seemed to age? 1767 01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:19,040 And then another person said I want to talk about, oh wait, 1768 01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:21,360 where is it? Anyway, people wanted us to talk 1769 01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:23,200 about Youngam. So here's. 1770 01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:28,080 Because he was the the like, the framing device of the whole 1771 01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:31,840 show. Evidently he was the mysterious 1772 01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:34,800 prisoner, the storyteller, through which we're getting this 1773 01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:41,600 rich story in a flashback form. What the hell happened? 1774 01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:49,960 Like this is my theory that that wasn't the initial concept, no 1775 01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:52,000 when they first shot that scene in episode one. 1776 01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:56,480 Definitely so. I really was kind of dying 1777 01:48:56,480 --> 01:48:58,480 laughing at that. But I'm like, hold on. 1778 01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:00,080 Like, let me get. Let me get. 1779 01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:00,960 Serious. I wonder. 1780 01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:02,840 I truly. Because I'm like. 1781 01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:07,000 I truly wonder if they, the writer, had written a happy 1782 01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:09,840 ending initially. I don't think she did. 1783 01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:14,720 I don't think so. I think that was meant to be 1784 01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:16,200 Dang hyun. I thought. 1785 01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:19,200 I thought that was maybe I'm like. 1786 01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:22,000 It was a whole mystery, like people were trying to guess who 1787 01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:24,560 it was In the sanitary, in the sanatorium I. 1788 01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:27,640 Swear when they were like, Oh yeah, we're looking for Jong 1789 01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:30,120 Hyun. I swear they said something like 1790 01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:32,320 that. And so they're like, oh, there, 1791 01:49:32,480 --> 01:49:36,000 that's Jong Hyun and then when? No. 1792 01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:39,520 I know they mentioned Jong Hyun. It was pretty. 1793 01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:41,480 They do. They're like, can you tell us 1794 01:49:41,480 --> 01:49:43,240 about him? And he like, perks up. 1795 01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:45,440 OK, maybe I. And then they say, oh, we know 1796 01:49:45,440 --> 01:49:48,440 you're not crazy. OK, then I'm wrong, OK? 1797 01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:53,960 And then he sort of initiates this whole flashback story, the 1798 01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:57,640 entirety of the show. He is essentially the narrator, 1799 01:49:57,680 --> 01:50:04,040 even though we don't hear him speak and like they make it seem 1800 01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:07,240 like it's it was Rihanna the whole time. 1801 01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:11,680 I don't think that. I honestly don't think that was 1802 01:50:11,680 --> 01:50:15,440 in the first draft, I. Don't think so. 1803 01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:18,680 It literally makes no sense. Like in the final episode, 1804 01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:23,880 Ryangam is like, I'm going to pretend to be you and Jiang Kyun 1805 01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:28,040 is like, no, you're not. Reverse Uno card steals his idea 1806 01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:33,800 and like runs off to face off against all of these. 1807 01:50:35,480 --> 01:50:38,960 What are they like Royal? They're sent from the palace 1808 01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:41,120 like to try and catch him or whatever. 1809 01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:45,720 And no, what the hell happens to Ryangam in that? 1810 01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:48,840 How does scenario? Because he's just unconscious? 1811 01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:49,880 How does he? Get imprisoned. 1812 01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:53,400 He was no one thought to look for him like investigate where 1813 01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:55,680 he was, break him out of the sanatorium. 1814 01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:58,320 How did he get captured? We don't see that happens off 1815 01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:00,840 screen. How did they connect him to Jang 1816 01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:03,080 Hyun? Like does he have an ID card on 1817 01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:07,240 him that says my name is Ryangam and I'm involved with Jang Hyun 1818 01:51:07,240 --> 01:51:10,000 who's a a traitor of the state. Like what? 1819 01:51:10,760 --> 01:51:12,920 How did they connect him to Jong Hyun? 1820 01:51:13,280 --> 01:51:14,760 They just found this dude in the forest. 1821 01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:19,400 From my memory, and again, it was a good minute since I 1822 01:51:19,480 --> 01:51:24,040 watched the first episode. Like, it just made it seem like 1823 01:51:25,160 --> 01:51:27,320 that he was waiting because didn't they say like, Oh yeah, 1824 01:51:27,320 --> 01:51:29,600 he's going to come get me or he's waiting for him to get you 1825 01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:33,000 or he's waiting for him to. Something, yeah. 1826 01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:35,080 I'm waiting for him to either, he said. 1827 01:51:35,080 --> 01:51:37,960 I'm waiting for him to come get me or he's been waiting for 1828 01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:41,120 years for this to get him or someone to get him. 1829 01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:45,000 It's something. Oh, this is a tragic story then. 1830 01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:46,400 Because he's there. He's old. 1831 01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:49,200 Apparently he's not that old. Apparently, he's not that old. 1832 01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:53,200 That was like, OK. I'm like, oh, it's tragic. 1833 01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:57,600 It's like he's old and like, you know, I don't know, they put 1834 01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:00,120 this wig, they put this. Wig on beyond. 1835 01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:04,000 I mean, it's like Gray and shit and he turns around in the final 1836 01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:09,840 episode like bitch and it's literally the same actor playing 1837 01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:14,920 Rangam Young playing him now with like a full on Gray ass 1838 01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:17,840 wig. What the hell is that? 1839 01:52:18,120 --> 01:52:20,960 Yeah, they refused to age. Him. 1840 01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:22,560 I don't know. And and OK. 1841 01:52:22,920 --> 01:52:25,520 How much time has passed? Exactly? 1842 01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:29,720 Like what was the point of the investigation? 1843 01:52:29,720 --> 01:52:33,840 And that an official going to investigate and talk to the 1844 01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:37,800 young I'm in the sanatorium. Like I'm this whole red herring 1845 01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:40,040 thing, like the framing device of the whole show. 1846 01:52:40,360 --> 01:52:45,520 Shit, shit shit, 100,000. Percent at the Yeah, no for 1847 01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:49,640 real. OK, so justice for Diango, 1848 01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:55,880 because that was fucking weird. And then someone said, oh, we 1849 01:52:55,880 --> 01:52:58,640 have to talk about Mr. Goo, her ex-husband, real fast. 1850 01:52:58,640 --> 01:53:02,560 So piece of shit, motherfucker. So let's talk about him. 1851 01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:09,200 Piece of shit, motherfucker. So I feel like Sam Jackson, this 1852 01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:14,600 part of the show, OK, this man, he took credit for saving her in 1853 01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:19,720 the woods against that like 17 on one fight later, he tried to 1854 01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:20,960 fix it. He was like, no, no, no, it 1855 01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:22,440 wasn't me. I just killed the last guy. 1856 01:53:22,440 --> 01:53:26,080 And she was like, yeah, right, too little, too late. 1857 01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:37,680 And he, he sort of liked her because she was audacious and 1858 01:53:37,680 --> 01:53:40,560 had a great survival instinct and she would do anything to 1859 01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:44,640 live. And he liked he liked her 1860 01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:48,000 because of that. But to me it was like he wanted 1861 01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:51,040 a bad bitch but didn't want a bad bitch at home. 1862 01:53:51,040 --> 01:53:52,600 Yes. You know what I'm saying? 1863 01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:54,640 And that was so like he wanted to tame a bad bitch. 1864 01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:57,680 Exactly. And that's a trash person. 1865 01:53:58,440 --> 01:54:03,840 My finger, she told him. She she told him like people 1866 01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:09,880 like me and and the guys like me for how I am because the end 1867 01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:15,040 they think that once I'm married I'll change think that they can 1868 01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:17,560 take me once I once I once I get married. 1869 01:54:17,920 --> 01:54:24,080 And he and she told him like no like you're you like the idea of 1870 01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:26,640 me but I'm not going to change when I'm I'm going to be the 1871 01:54:26,640 --> 01:54:29,080 same girl. I'm not going to change in my 1872 01:54:29,080 --> 01:54:34,640 paraphrase. So, so yeah, that was very it 1873 01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:40,160 was telegraphed that he wasn't going to take her back after she 1874 01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:42,160 had been taken. He done. 1875 01:54:42,680 --> 01:54:45,120 He done. He wasted so much time. 1876 01:54:45,120 --> 01:54:50,080 He wasted so much time and he wasted so much time being all 1877 01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:53,440 paranoid like. Oh yeah, I was. 1878 01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:56,800 Like, no, not even believe. Like he believed that she was 1879 01:54:56,800 --> 01:55:00,480 gone, but she was like, but he said, you know, oh, you know, 1880 01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:03,000 she ran off again. Like you're not going to trust 1881 01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:05,800 your wife. You're going to trust your wife? 1882 01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:11,640 He's demanding loyalty from a woman who they're saying got 1883 01:55:12,200 --> 01:55:14,680 napped. I'm like officer. 1884 01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:18,120 He's like, she's she. She has a history of running 1885 01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:23,760 away from your marriage, not from her livelihood and all of 1886 01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:26,360 her family. And this little kid, this random 1887 01:55:26,360 --> 01:55:28,720 little kid, they're going to hire this random little kid to 1888 01:55:28,720 --> 01:55:35,440 be like, Oh yeah, like officer. He was, So what a freaking 1889 01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:40,920 problem. So Mr. Goo, again, just a trash 1890 01:55:40,920 --> 01:55:43,720 person. I could not stand him. 1891 01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:46,800 Yeah. I couldn't stand him before and 1892 01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:51,600 I couldn't stand him after he made these just terrible 1893 01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:53,080 decisions. Moment that I had that. 1894 01:55:53,440 --> 01:55:55,600 And then he not, he knocks up some. 1895 01:55:55,600 --> 01:55:56,640 Girl, I was going to say that too. 1896 01:55:56,920 --> 01:56:04,760 The fact that she oh. Girl like he goes, we're just 1897 01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:09,520 like speech. So he goes, they pressure him 1898 01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:11,040 into going to get her. Yeah. 1899 01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:14,960 And he's like, oh shit, OK, so he takes some money, ransom 1900 01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:17,320 money, and go on the way to Chang. 1901 01:56:17,320 --> 01:56:21,840 He like, meets some dudes who were like, Oh yeah, I'm trying 1902 01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:26,520 to ransom my son, I think back from Chang, 'cause he was taken 1903 01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:31,400 unjustly. And they steal his ransom money, 1904 01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:34,040 like the funds that he brought to get her out. 1905 01:56:34,680 --> 01:56:38,000 And they're like, you don't he? Fucking kisses. 1906 01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:41,840 Even after he catches them stealing, he catches him 1907 01:56:41,840 --> 01:56:44,840 thieving and he's like, yeah, you can have my money so you can 1908 01:56:44,840 --> 01:56:47,640 get your son out because. They're like my son is my and 1909 01:56:48,400 --> 01:56:51,560 yeah. Yeah, and they told her while 1910 01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:54,920 she was in that, like slavery camp. 1911 01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:57,000 The marketplace, right? Oh yeah. 1912 01:56:57,000 --> 01:56:58,880 No one ever comes to pick up the women. 1913 01:56:59,680 --> 01:57:02,520 Yeah. No one's ever going to come. 1914 01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:05,440 For well. What they said was no one comes 1915 01:57:05,800 --> 01:57:09,120 for a wife, They'll come for a daughter, not a wife. 1916 01:57:09,120 --> 01:57:12,280 Yeah, but they'll never come for a wife. 1917 01:57:14,280 --> 01:57:18,000 Yeah. Which is like, fuck the 1918 01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:21,920 patriarchy. Say that again, girl key. 1919 01:57:21,920 --> 01:57:24,480 Chain on the ground, we were always. 1920 01:57:24,920 --> 01:57:28,440 Skipping a turf. Sorry, me and my Taylor Swift 1921 01:57:28,440 --> 01:57:32,640 obsession. So, Lord, I got. 1922 01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:37,600 So I was like upended with this character because I was so mad 1923 01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:40,880 at him and he made this the worst decision after worst 1924 01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:43,480 decision. When she comes back, he's like, 1925 01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:47,240 Oh yeah, I'll get rid of this bitch real quick if you tell me 1926 01:57:47,240 --> 01:57:51,360 that you were not. Yeah, the oh, I'm like you. 1927 01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:54,680 She's outside. Like, this is paper. 1928 01:57:54,760 --> 01:57:57,320 Thin walls. She can hear you. 1929 01:57:58,040 --> 01:57:59,680 The walls are made of paper. Yeah. 1930 01:57:59,920 --> 01:58:04,440 So literally, literally, like, oh, that's just AI can fix that. 1931 01:58:07,840 --> 01:58:11,080 What do you mean fix it? Lady outside that you just were 1932 01:58:11,080 --> 01:58:13,840 saying bye to, like if she's your wife. 1933 01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:17,800 What, you mean that's your baby? Like what? 1934 01:58:19,040 --> 01:58:21,800 My gosh, how are? You going to be like JK my real 1935 01:58:21,800 --> 01:58:23,640 wife's back? What a menace. 1936 01:58:23,680 --> 01:58:26,840 Seriously, what a menace. I'll take you back if you're not 1937 01:58:28,360 --> 01:58:30,880 what? I liked about their breakup was 1938 01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:33,600 that not only were we just waiting for it and it finally 1939 01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:38,400 happened, but she says I'm not divorced. 1940 01:58:38,400 --> 01:58:42,240 She just takes ownership of it and takes some agency over it 1941 01:58:42,640 --> 01:58:48,840 and says I'm not divorcing you because I was defiled in the in 1942 01:58:48,840 --> 01:58:51,760 when I was taken. I'm divorcing you because I 1943 01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:53,960 fell. I fell in love with John Hyun. 1944 01:58:54,440 --> 01:58:56,560 That's right. That's right, girl. 1945 01:58:56,960 --> 01:59:01,360 Because he was over there and he saved me and he was like, like 1946 01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:03,440 he was like shocked. What do you? 1947 01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:09,320 I'm speechless. I'm sorry he had me so 1948 01:59:09,320 --> 01:59:10,680 speechless. And not in a. 1949 01:59:10,920 --> 01:59:13,360 Good way. My God, he had me like gagged, 1950 01:59:13,640 --> 01:59:15,960 bro. Like I was like, OK, so let's 1951 01:59:15,960 --> 01:59:18,400 jump off him. And what was the last one that 1952 01:59:18,400 --> 01:59:24,360 people wanted me to talk about? Oh, Yanjun. 1953 01:59:24,360 --> 01:59:27,040 Well, we took him to task already, I think. 1954 01:59:28,080 --> 01:59:30,120 OK, let's not. Let's not belabor the point. 1955 01:59:30,120 --> 01:59:33,720 So Howard, that's done, someone said. 1956 01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:36,880 Talk about the fact that Zhang Hyun was like a third lead in 1957 01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:39,280 his own drama for part of the show. 1958 01:59:39,280 --> 01:59:41,960 So this is a big nitpick of mine too. 1959 01:59:43,240 --> 01:59:50,600 Was that Part 2 felt a little repetitive and irritating 1960 01:59:50,920 --> 01:59:54,160 because the writer kept breaking up and separating our couple 1961 01:59:54,160 --> 01:59:57,800 like for seemingly no reason, especially after she comes back 1962 01:59:58,200 --> 02:00:02,600 from being kidnapped. From being enslaved, there's 1963 02:00:02,600 --> 02:00:05,720 really no reason. Like the episodes, yes. 1964 02:00:05,720 --> 02:00:10,800 Mm hmm. So, And they also took a lot of 1965 02:00:10,800 --> 02:00:15,840 the narrative away from Kilche and focus more on Chang Hyun and 1966 02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:17,680 his whereabouts and what he's up to. 1967 02:00:18,160 --> 02:00:21,360 So that was still very interesting and compelling, but 1968 02:00:21,360 --> 02:00:25,280 it made the story uneven because in the first part it was a lot 1969 02:00:25,280 --> 02:00:27,680 of Kilche and a lot of Chang Hyun, and it was they were 1970 02:00:27,680 --> 02:00:31,080 flipping back and forth between them at a much better pace. 1971 02:00:31,080 --> 02:00:34,440 And in Part 2 it felt really uneven. 1972 02:00:34,440 --> 02:00:36,440 So I see where that person is coming from. 1973 02:00:37,000 --> 02:00:43,320 Where they said it was like he was his own, he had his own, 1974 02:00:43,320 --> 02:00:45,560 like part of the drama. 3rd lead like a third lead. 1975 02:00:45,600 --> 02:00:48,280 I don't know. The fact that he was like a 1976 02:00:48,280 --> 02:00:50,640 third lead. So like not the first lead, but 1977 02:00:50,640 --> 02:00:55,160 a third lead. Well, I don't know what that 1978 02:00:55,160 --> 02:00:59,000 means. 3rd lead in his own drama for part of the show. 3rd lead 1979 02:00:59,000 --> 02:01:00,760 in his own drama for part of the show. 1980 02:01:00,760 --> 02:01:03,520 So like not the lead? Interesting. 1981 02:01:03,520 --> 02:01:07,800 Oh, is it because like of this big like love triangle square? 1982 02:01:08,080 --> 02:01:10,680 I I. Well, it's not even like a love 1983 02:01:10,680 --> 02:01:13,600 triangle at this point. It's like so many players, 1984 02:01:13,600 --> 02:01:14,040 right? Oh. 1985 02:01:14,560 --> 02:01:22,360 Yeah. So love the I love rhombus so. 1986 02:01:23,360 --> 02:01:25,920 I I don't know. Just joking. 1987 02:01:26,320 --> 02:01:29,160 I don't. OK, maybe. 1988 02:01:29,640 --> 02:01:31,640 I feel like. I don't know. 1989 02:01:31,880 --> 02:01:35,320 I didn't feel that way. I don't feel that he was like. 1990 02:01:35,800 --> 02:01:38,080 OK. I always felt like he was the 1991 02:01:38,080 --> 02:01:41,280 first lead. Yeah, I don't think he was the 1992 02:01:42,120 --> 02:01:46,200 3rd lead. OK, so another person's let's 1993 02:01:46,200 --> 02:01:51,040 talk about the ending of part one where she chooses her family 1994 02:01:51,040 --> 02:01:52,760 instead of being selfish and running away with him. 1995 02:01:52,760 --> 02:01:54,800 OK, this is where a lot of people were pissed at. 1996 02:01:54,800 --> 02:02:01,560 Guilty because she didn't elope with him and I. 1997 02:02:03,440 --> 02:02:08,000 The problem with that is that she it happens late. 1998 02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:12,360 Like the problem is later because she felt such loyalty 1999 02:02:12,880 --> 02:02:15,600 toward her family, like all this love and devotion toward her 2000 02:02:15,600 --> 02:02:19,640 family, her father, her siblings, the women that she 2001 02:02:19,640 --> 02:02:23,040 went through the invasion years with and stuff. 2002 02:02:23,920 --> 02:02:29,320 So all of that, it was like, no wonder that she didn't elope 2003 02:02:29,320 --> 02:02:31,800 with him, because what was that life gonna be like? 2004 02:02:32,280 --> 02:02:36,520 Yeah, I feel like my like my own. 2005 02:02:36,520 --> 02:02:40,880 This is another like where I kind of put my own self into 2006 02:02:40,880 --> 02:02:45,800 this because I was like, I totally understand because she 2007 02:02:45,800 --> 02:02:49,760 had, you know, her loyalty. Well, yeah, same thing. 2008 02:02:49,760 --> 02:02:54,000 Like, you know, she, she felt like she had that burden to 2009 02:02:54,000 --> 02:02:56,600 carry to take care of her father, you know, and to take 2010 02:02:56,600 --> 02:03:00,000 care of her siblings because, you know, they don't, first of 2011 02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:03,760 all, her father can't, you know, can't take care of himself. 2012 02:03:04,240 --> 02:03:07,200 He has a little brother and that needs someone to raise. 2013 02:03:07,200 --> 02:03:10,520 And the sister is not there yet to like really take care of the 2014 02:03:10,520 --> 02:03:15,920 household. So yeah. 2015 02:03:19,080 --> 02:03:21,520 I see where she's coming from too, with the relationship with 2016 02:03:21,520 --> 02:03:25,000 him, because he's constantly leaving he. 2017 02:03:25,280 --> 02:03:29,120 He's known to not. He is constantly in and out of 2018 02:03:29,120 --> 02:03:33,240 her life and not a consistent part of it, right? 2019 02:03:33,240 --> 02:03:35,600 Like, absolutely. He helps her in times of need. 2020 02:03:35,600 --> 02:03:38,120 Absolutely. He's trying to keep her alive. 2021 02:03:38,680 --> 02:03:44,800 But I feel like she picks the the security like the secure 2022 02:03:44,800 --> 02:03:46,240 choice. Yeah. 2023 02:03:47,240 --> 02:03:51,800 And I think in that society, love is a luxury. 2024 02:03:52,400 --> 02:03:53,680 True. And at that point she didn't 2025 02:03:53,680 --> 02:03:55,600 have that luxury. She, you know what I'm saying? 2026 02:03:55,600 --> 02:03:56,960 Like she couldn't afford it. Exactly. 2027 02:03:58,880 --> 02:03:59,440 And. Yeah. 2028 02:03:59,560 --> 02:04:02,360 So I I see where she was coming from. 2029 02:04:02,360 --> 02:04:07,680 I see that she would had so much love for him and wanted to be 2030 02:04:07,680 --> 02:04:10,720 with Tang Hyun, but he's a he's a bet. 2031 02:04:10,720 --> 02:04:14,320 Yeah, that's like she's betting her life on him. 2032 02:04:15,160 --> 02:04:19,760 We are introduced to him and how the whole non goody town knows 2033 02:04:19,760 --> 02:04:22,480 him that he doesn't stay and he knows it too. 2034 02:04:22,480 --> 02:04:24,160 He doesn't stay in one town for that long. 2035 02:04:24,760 --> 02:04:27,760 He decides because of her to be like, I'm going to, I'm going to 2036 02:04:27,760 --> 02:04:29,840 prove her wrong, I'm going to establish my life here and then 2037 02:04:29,840 --> 02:04:32,280 goody no. So he was kind of already known 2038 02:04:32,880 --> 02:04:34,400 for, like, not really being stable. 2039 02:04:35,960 --> 02:04:37,960 Not really. Putting down roots and being 2040 02:04:37,960 --> 02:04:40,640 this perpetual bachelor and you can't pin him down. 2041 02:04:40,680 --> 02:04:41,800 Not that he. Wouldn't know. 2042 02:04:41,800 --> 02:04:43,720 She didn't really know him exactly. 2043 02:04:45,240 --> 02:04:47,960 She didn't really know him. So I get it. 2044 02:04:48,360 --> 02:04:51,040 And the problem comes later for me. 2045 02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:58,400 It's when she, like, after the fact, after she moves out on her 2046 02:04:58,400 --> 02:05:04,680 own post divorce with Jong Jong. Yes, she had like, her father 2047 02:05:04,840 --> 02:05:08,080 just came in and tried to kill her. 2048 02:05:10,120 --> 02:05:12,840 And that was like a whole traumatic experience. 2049 02:05:12,880 --> 02:05:15,640 I don't think I would ever fully recover after that. 2050 02:05:16,400 --> 02:05:20,040 And she's like, why don't you and they take care of my family 2051 02:05:20,040 --> 02:05:21,320 for me and I'll come back for them. 2052 02:05:23,080 --> 02:05:24,720 So right. She never does. 2053 02:05:25,080 --> 02:05:26,400 She never. Comes back for. 2054 02:05:26,840 --> 02:05:30,120 Her mentally ill father for the younger sister, she leaves the 2055 02:05:30,120 --> 02:05:33,120 brother behind. And the promise of taking care 2056 02:05:33,680 --> 02:05:37,400 of them, of the helpless little brother, the bratty little 2057 02:05:37,400 --> 02:05:40,840 sister, even going so far as to vow to give her sister like this 2058 02:05:40,840 --> 02:05:45,160 fine wedding, All of these promises fell by the wayside, 2059 02:05:45,920 --> 02:05:50,640 and she refused to elope with Jonghin because of her fiance, 2060 02:05:51,240 --> 02:05:53,040 basically holding her family hostage. 2061 02:05:53,280 --> 02:05:58,400 But like, what happened to that? Like the family after the family 2062 02:05:58,680 --> 02:06:01,720 after she moves out? That's a thing it's in. 2063 02:06:01,760 --> 02:06:03,840 We never see the family again. Yeah. 2064 02:06:04,600 --> 02:06:07,560 Like her father, the brother the What happened to them? 2065 02:06:07,560 --> 02:06:10,760 Who's taking care of them? That's the thing where, yeah, 2066 02:06:11,240 --> 02:06:13,880 where it's like, OK, I get you, but. 2067 02:06:14,560 --> 02:06:16,800 I get you in the in the middle like of the show. 2068 02:06:16,880 --> 02:06:19,720 I get you in between part one and Part 2, but at the end of 2069 02:06:19,720 --> 02:06:21,440 the show. And then she spends all this 2070 02:06:21,440 --> 02:06:24,360 time looking for Chung Hyun because he's missing. 2071 02:06:24,360 --> 02:06:27,280 And then they finally reveal that there was no body, so like 2072 02:06:27,680 --> 02:06:30,560 he could be alive somewhere. She goes in search of him. 2073 02:06:30,560 --> 02:06:33,560 Like who the fuck cares about the family at that point? 2074 02:06:33,560 --> 02:06:36,360 But like, I think that's a huge part of her. 2075 02:06:37,720 --> 02:06:40,520 I mean, I mean, unless she was like, you know what I should 2076 02:06:40,560 --> 02:06:47,520 have this is, yeah. You know, so that was my issue 2077 02:06:47,920 --> 02:06:51,040 with not the ending of part one, but the ending of the whole 2078 02:06:51,040 --> 02:06:55,160 show. They didn't quite resolve that 2079 02:06:55,160 --> 02:06:56,800 the way that I think they should have. 2080 02:06:58,040 --> 02:06:59,200 Unless they're just implying like she. 2081 02:06:59,400 --> 02:07:04,200 Someone said they liked the 1st 10 episodes and so they said 2082 02:07:04,200 --> 02:07:07,120 like the 1st 10 episodes then was implausible and too 2083 02:07:07,120 --> 02:07:08,120 repetitive. Bad writing. 2084 02:07:08,120 --> 02:07:12,320 Acting was great. I sort of agree with that in a 2085 02:07:12,320 --> 02:07:16,320 very in a very minor way, which I already I think I already. 2086 02:07:16,320 --> 02:07:22,760 Said agree it was repetitive, but yeah, agreed minor. 2087 02:07:25,000 --> 02:07:28,480 Let's talk about. So we already talked about 2088 02:07:28,480 --> 02:07:31,520 Iyangam being a plot device. Like a shameless plot device. 2089 02:07:32,000 --> 02:07:36,600 We already talked about Gilche and her I know, and the loyalty 2090 02:07:36,600 --> 02:07:38,320 to her family. Oh my God. 2091 02:07:38,320 --> 02:07:40,720 Let's talk about the amnesia trope that they had not once, 2092 02:07:40,720 --> 02:07:44,280 twice, but twice in the show. OK, once. 2093 02:07:44,920 --> 02:07:46,000 Once. OK. 2094 02:07:46,000 --> 02:07:50,680 Because I I don't even like I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm kind of, you know, 2095 02:07:50,720 --> 02:07:53,440 cheesy and corny. Like I do like a good amnesia 2096 02:07:53,440 --> 02:07:56,080 trope. But they did it twice. 2097 02:07:56,080 --> 02:07:59,040 I'm like, was it? Necessary. 2098 02:07:59,880 --> 02:08:02,080 Yeah. No, no, it wasn't necessary. 2099 02:08:02,280 --> 02:08:05,960 I think the first one I was kind of going with it, and then the 2100 02:08:05,960 --> 02:08:07,440 second one I was like fuck out of here. 2101 02:08:07,760 --> 02:08:10,440 But now that I'm removed from the show a little bit, I think 2102 02:08:10,440 --> 02:08:11,640 they should have cut out the first one. 2103 02:08:11,720 --> 02:08:15,560 And then this one, right? Left the last one. 2104 02:08:15,600 --> 02:08:17,360 That would have been more impactful because I feel like 2105 02:08:18,120 --> 02:08:23,160 the first one was like, really? I mean, I mean, it was kind of 2106 02:08:23,160 --> 02:08:24,840 cute. It was just like it was felt 2107 02:08:24,840 --> 02:08:28,400 like filler, like she was taking care of him. 2108 02:08:29,280 --> 02:08:31,920 He couldn't remember her, and he was like they. 2109 02:08:31,960 --> 02:08:35,640 Probably got some like some notes from. 2110 02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:38,240 They had some cute moments together. 2111 02:08:38,840 --> 02:08:41,200 She was kissing him on the cheek and hugging up on him and he was 2112 02:08:41,200 --> 02:08:42,840 like, what the fuck are you doing, lady? 2113 02:08:42,840 --> 02:08:45,040 Who are you? And she was like, we're allowed 2114 02:08:45,040 --> 02:08:48,800 to do this, like that sort of stuff. 2115 02:08:48,800 --> 02:08:52,040 It was cute, I know, But that I could have done without it 2116 02:08:52,040 --> 02:08:53,880 though. For sure. 2117 02:08:54,720 --> 02:08:59,640 It's the amnesia thing. Like, bro, it's 2023. 2118 02:09:00,120 --> 02:09:03,600 Even me who likes it, I was like and I do. 2119 02:09:04,080 --> 02:09:08,760 I was shocked. I honestly wasn't expecting it. 2120 02:09:08,760 --> 02:09:11,480 But then I'm like, oh, OK, like we're gonna do this right now. 2121 02:09:12,200 --> 02:09:14,360 And then the second time around, we're gonna do this again. 2122 02:09:14,360 --> 02:09:17,960 OK, cool. I feel like they. 2123 02:09:17,960 --> 02:09:20,480 I feel like they got the writer got notes. 2124 02:09:20,480 --> 02:09:23,200 Like we need more them two together. 2125 02:09:23,440 --> 02:09:24,600 What do you got? What do you got? 2126 02:09:27,360 --> 02:09:32,240 I can give him amnesia and then they're like, we got to have a 2127 02:09:32,240 --> 02:09:34,840 reason for him to, like, disappear at the end of the show 2128 02:09:35,600 --> 02:09:38,640 to match, like the fact that Jangam isn't been in prison, and 2129 02:09:38,640 --> 02:09:42,120 because otherwise Jangam Jangam would have definitely busted the 2130 02:09:42,120 --> 02:09:43,200 Yangam. Oh yeah. 2131 02:09:43,840 --> 02:09:46,920 Out of out of the sanatorium. Had he known he was? 2132 02:09:46,920 --> 02:09:47,920 There. Yes, exactly. 2133 02:09:49,200 --> 02:09:50,960 And how did he end up there? So. 2134 02:09:52,000 --> 02:09:55,240 OK, that's another. That's the that's what I said. 2135 02:09:55,360 --> 02:09:58,160 I was like, why? Why is he even in there, OK and 2136 02:09:58,160 --> 02:10:00,040 not in a regular prison? Why was it? 2137 02:10:00,040 --> 02:10:03,520 Why was he left alive? Did he feign insanity? 2138 02:10:03,760 --> 02:10:06,000 Like I have all these questions? It doesn't matter anyway. 2139 02:10:06,480 --> 02:10:07,560 Amnesia. Twice. 2140 02:10:07,800 --> 02:10:12,840 I feel like that was a misstep. The ending reminded me of the 2141 02:10:12,840 --> 02:10:14,240 crowned clown. Have you seen that show? 2142 02:10:14,240 --> 02:10:16,680 I haven't. OK, you got to see it. 2143 02:10:16,680 --> 02:10:18,920 It's amazing. Oh shit. 2144 02:10:18,920 --> 02:10:22,400 I might spoil it for you. OK. 2145 02:10:23,240 --> 02:10:26,320 It's out of my God, the end. OK. 2146 02:10:26,600 --> 02:10:30,280 The ending of Crown Clown is basically everyone thinks that 2147 02:10:30,280 --> 02:10:33,200 he died. The male lead dies but in fact 2148 02:10:33,200 --> 02:10:36,880 he was injured and then comes back years later after being in 2149 02:10:36,880 --> 02:10:40,640 a coma and like some random good-natured man like taking 2150 02:10:40,640 --> 02:10:44,120 care of of like of his feeble unconscious body for years, 2151 02:10:44,560 --> 02:10:49,360 which is not how like comas work, but OK. 2152 02:10:50,480 --> 02:10:52,480 OK. It was like the worst, the 2153 02:10:52,480 --> 02:10:54,640 worst. Like, little like hiccup in the 2154 02:10:54,960 --> 02:10:57,920 in the ending on the way to a happy ending. 2155 02:10:58,600 --> 02:11:00,760 And that's kind of what happened here, right? 2156 02:11:00,760 --> 02:11:04,440 Like, he goes missing for all of these years and he was injured. 2157 02:11:05,000 --> 02:11:09,880 And it turns out that he was retracing his steps in their 2158 02:11:09,880 --> 02:11:14,000 relationship without him realizing exactly who he's 2159 02:11:14,680 --> 02:11:21,080 recalling and sets up this life together based on one of the 2160 02:11:21,080 --> 02:11:23,000 last conversations that they had. 2161 02:11:23,920 --> 02:11:25,640 Which, again, this makes no sense. 2162 02:11:25,640 --> 02:11:30,720 That's not really appealing. Very plausible as far as memory 2163 02:11:30,720 --> 02:11:35,400 loss goes, but OK. That ring has to be a powerful 2164 02:11:35,400 --> 02:11:38,800 ring or something. It has, it's it it it has 2165 02:11:38,840 --> 02:11:41,240 powers. Oh, guilty, said she did curse 2166 02:11:41,240 --> 02:11:45,080 it cause twice. Yeah, true, true, he. 2167 02:11:45,080 --> 02:11:49,200 Dropped it twice and all of a sudden he has his back, right? 2168 02:11:49,200 --> 02:11:50,640 Didn't he drop it again at the beach? 2169 02:11:51,240 --> 02:11:53,240 I swear he dropped it again. Yeah, he did drop it. 2170 02:11:53,240 --> 02:11:55,960 Yes, he did. So here's what I like. 2171 02:11:55,960 --> 02:12:00,840 Here's what I liked about the ending is that, well, I guess we 2172 02:12:00,840 --> 02:12:03,320 have to go back to Kilche's dream because she had a 2173 02:12:03,320 --> 02:12:08,880 recurring dream. I personally have vivid dreams. 2174 02:12:09,560 --> 02:12:14,760 So if I had, if we had this recurring dream of running to 2175 02:12:14,760 --> 02:12:18,200 catch up to the red string of fate, only to never catch a 2176 02:12:18,200 --> 02:12:22,080 glimpse of my beloved on the beach during golden hour, I'd be 2177 02:12:22,080 --> 02:12:26,040 fucking concerned. But she was like I keep having 2178 02:12:26,040 --> 02:12:28,400 this dream, the same dream every time. 2179 02:12:28,400 --> 02:12:29,640 I can never catch up. Look at. 2180 02:12:29,640 --> 02:12:31,400 Him the same dream. Weird. 2181 02:12:32,000 --> 02:12:36,320 So I was like very concerned for her, But then at the end of the 2182 02:12:36,320 --> 02:12:41,760 show, with Kilte and Jong Hyun on the beach, her finding him, 2183 02:12:41,960 --> 02:12:45,280 it's just like her dream, which was. 2184 02:12:45,280 --> 02:12:46,040 Literally. When? 2185 02:12:46,120 --> 02:12:48,200 Like a port end of what was going to happen? 2186 02:12:48,560 --> 02:12:51,320 Jump through hoops. She wanders the land in search 2187 02:12:51,320 --> 02:12:56,200 of her love and finds him on the beach, and at first it's about 2188 02:12:56,200 --> 02:12:59,720 her realizing or recognizing him, but in the end it's a 2189 02:12:59,720 --> 02:13:05,000 reversal with it being about him recognizing her that. 2190 02:13:06,760 --> 02:13:11,400 Is so true. Which I liked that bit that like 2191 02:13:11,440 --> 02:13:17,760 full circle nature of it and like it being a call back to the 2192 02:13:17,760 --> 02:13:21,720 dream and stuff, That's fine. But. 2193 02:13:22,200 --> 02:13:27,600 That's fine, but it, I don't know. 2194 02:13:27,600 --> 02:13:29,560 It's just not 100. I guess. 2195 02:13:31,320 --> 02:13:32,400 And does she ever? Yeah. 2196 02:13:32,480 --> 02:13:34,520 Does she ever figure out that it's him? 2197 02:13:37,720 --> 02:13:39,400 What do you mean? Yeah, she does. 2198 02:13:39,400 --> 02:13:41,800 She realizes it's him. Yeah, in her dream. 2199 02:13:43,360 --> 02:13:45,760 Cuz I feel like she was, Or she was just denying it. 2200 02:13:45,760 --> 02:13:48,680 What was that after? No, no, no. 2201 02:13:48,680 --> 02:13:51,440 She. Yeah, She realized it was him 2202 02:13:51,480 --> 02:13:53,000 the whole time. Like he was the one. 2203 02:13:54,160 --> 02:13:58,800 He was the one. He is the one, OK, Yeah. 2204 02:13:59,120 --> 02:14:00,480 Yeah. I mean, yeah. 2205 02:14:01,200 --> 02:14:04,080 So the only other person that we haven't talked about is the 2206 02:14:04,080 --> 02:14:05,880 Ching Princess Kakwa. I mean, hi. 2207 02:14:08,560 --> 02:14:11,120 Yes. So here's my problem with her. 2208 02:14:13,000 --> 02:14:15,840 It is just, I'm gonna go real fast because we've been here a 2209 02:14:15,840 --> 02:14:18,440 while. So this is just another foul 2210 02:14:18,440 --> 02:14:22,920 woman who's had everything she's ever wanted getting murderous 2211 02:14:22,920 --> 02:14:26,320 because she can't have a man. It's tired. 2212 02:14:26,800 --> 02:14:28,560 It's tired. It's been done to death. 2213 02:14:28,560 --> 02:14:30,760 Seriously. The chatter online was that, 2214 02:14:31,560 --> 02:14:36,360 yeah, so the chatter online was that NBC, which is the network 2215 02:14:36,360 --> 02:14:40,320 that aired the show, insisted that this happened, that she 2216 02:14:40,320 --> 02:14:44,040 like be a recurring character in Part 2 because they think it's 2217 02:14:44,040 --> 02:14:49,200 an epic reunion of actors. Because both her and Nam Kunmin 2218 02:14:49,200 --> 02:14:52,040 were in Awaken and $1.00 lawyer together. 2219 02:14:54,160 --> 02:14:58,400 To which I say they're not Kate and Leo, OK? 2220 02:14:58,400 --> 02:15:00,800 They're not Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan. 2221 02:15:01,200 --> 02:15:05,040 So like, settle down, NBC. If that was true, like, who 2222 02:15:07,480 --> 02:15:08,600 cares? Like, who the fuck cares? 2223 02:15:08,600 --> 02:15:12,400 Yeah, I thought that her character was doing too much 2224 02:15:12,720 --> 02:15:15,720 like it seemed like she was. She was a device. 2225 02:15:15,720 --> 02:15:18,520 Cat playing with a toy. She was a device, but she was 2226 02:15:18,520 --> 02:15:21,880 also like kind of a a cat playing with a toy. 2227 02:15:21,880 --> 02:15:24,280 I expected her to get bored and move on to some other. 2228 02:15:24,280 --> 02:15:29,640 Thing, I mean, she looked. By the time that and I was like, 2229 02:15:29,640 --> 02:15:33,000 not her going all the way to Korea just to drag him back. 2230 02:15:34,960 --> 02:15:39,800 Girl, here's the thing, the whole that character, every time 2231 02:15:39,800 --> 02:15:42,240 she was on screen, I felt so uncomfortable. 2232 02:15:43,960 --> 02:15:47,200 What a smug bitch. Girl. 2233 02:15:47,800 --> 02:15:50,560 Like I could not. I was so uncomfortable and 2234 02:15:50,560 --> 02:15:52,600 uneasy. And I'm like, oh, can we move 2235 02:15:52,600 --> 02:15:55,800 along these scenes? And there was so like, awkward. 2236 02:15:55,800 --> 02:15:58,000 And I know that they're trying to do like some kind of tension 2237 02:15:58,000 --> 02:16:00,640 between them. But I'm like, it's not about me. 2238 02:16:00,640 --> 02:16:03,120 Like, it's just like she's looking at him with these dead 2239 02:16:03,120 --> 02:16:05,800 eyes. And like, he's just like. 2240 02:16:06,760 --> 02:16:08,360 Like there's nothing. No, humanity. 2241 02:16:08,400 --> 02:16:10,560 There her like he wants to kill her. 2242 02:16:11,040 --> 02:16:13,800 So like, just have him kill her. No, I'm just kidding. 2243 02:16:14,520 --> 02:16:17,680 Just it was just like, I didn't enjoy the scenes that they had 2244 02:16:17,680 --> 02:16:20,840 together. So I feel like like there was no 2245 02:16:20,840 --> 02:16:23,840 point with her. Literally just a device. 2246 02:16:25,280 --> 02:16:29,560 Yeah, something else that was annoying in the last few 2247 02:16:29,560 --> 02:16:30,920 episodes. The reveal. 2248 02:16:30,920 --> 02:16:36,000 That was it. Girl. 2249 02:16:37,559 --> 02:16:40,920 This wasn't the final few episodes that they touch on, 2250 02:16:40,920 --> 02:16:44,719 this recurring nightmare slash repressed memory, and we get the 2251 02:16:44,719 --> 02:16:50,160 full story, and even though it's really like a chunky story, like 2252 02:16:50,160 --> 02:16:56,080 really kind of interesting and impressive, it they had this 2253 02:16:56,080 --> 02:16:59,400 intense moment too with the father and him, This reunion 2254 02:16:59,400 --> 02:17:01,240 scene where he's like, I'm going to take away everything you 2255 02:17:01,240 --> 02:17:03,440 loved, I took away something that was precious with you from 2256 02:17:03,440 --> 02:17:07,719 you and blah blah blah, it's it's too late. 2257 02:17:07,719 --> 02:17:08,920 Like too. Little too late. 2258 02:17:09,480 --> 02:17:12,520 We're too much too late. By this time, I'm like, I don't 2259 02:17:12,840 --> 02:17:15,840 it was. Give it to me like it was too 2260 02:17:15,840 --> 02:17:20,959 much, too late. And I like the I liked it. 2261 02:17:20,959 --> 02:17:23,920 Like by itself. It's good because it had like it 2262 02:17:23,920 --> 02:17:27,080 was touching on the hypocrisy and like the deconstruction of 2263 02:17:27,080 --> 02:17:31,600 his father's problematic ideals and like his murderous politics. 2264 02:17:32,320 --> 02:17:35,959 But all this happened too late, which makes it seem half baked. 2265 02:17:35,959 --> 02:17:39,840 No, Yeah. By the time that it came to 2266 02:17:39,840 --> 02:17:43,120 fruition, I was like, no, one can't at this point. 2267 02:17:43,120 --> 02:17:45,879 We're just going to just move this alone and make sure that 2268 02:17:46,879 --> 02:17:48,520 our main characters get together. 2269 02:17:48,559 --> 02:17:52,200 And you know, maybe if they trickled it in a little bit so 2270 02:17:52,200 --> 02:17:54,760 that we can anticipate it, at least for me at least I can 2271 02:17:54,760 --> 02:17:58,400 anticipate it. Because even his, from my 2272 02:17:58,400 --> 02:18:03,200 memory, his, his flashbacks, I just remember that he's outside 2273 02:18:03,200 --> 02:18:06,840 in the pouring rain and he's looking at this gate and it's 2274 02:18:06,840 --> 02:18:10,879 like someone's getting beat. And I he's yelling out for his 2275 02:18:10,879 --> 02:18:12,760 father. And the whole time I thought it 2276 02:18:12,760 --> 02:18:18,680 was his father getting beat because no, I'm like, where did 2277 02:18:18,680 --> 02:18:21,639 I go wrong? Like, what did I miss? 2278 02:18:22,000 --> 02:18:25,320 Because then later on it was the dad beating the guy. 2279 02:18:25,959 --> 02:18:29,120 I'm like, what? I'm I'm not like, what did I 2280 02:18:29,120 --> 02:18:30,360 miss that? I didn't get that. 2281 02:18:30,360 --> 02:18:34,200 I didn't get that because, you know, he, we played around with 2282 02:18:34,200 --> 02:18:36,840 the whole, oh, he's not a real noble guy or a noble man, you 2283 02:18:36,879 --> 02:18:42,000 know, And it turns out. He bought his title and he was 2284 02:18:42,000 --> 02:18:42,799 noble. So I'm like. 2285 02:18:43,799 --> 02:18:49,879 Yes, it was like, I don't know it was just too much like a lot 2286 02:18:49,879 --> 02:18:52,600 of back story thrown at us in a very little amount. 2287 02:18:52,600 --> 02:18:54,240 It's not. It's just an exposition dump 2288 02:18:54,280 --> 02:18:59,600 because and it was important, like I think it was important 2289 02:18:59,600 --> 02:19:04,200 because he you needed to know all this, to know why he feels 2290 02:19:04,200 --> 02:19:09,480 that's this way about society, why he's such a trend, what's 2291 02:19:09,480 --> 02:19:12,240 the what's the word that he's like going against trends. 2292 02:19:14,719 --> 02:19:16,240 He's such a rebel. That's it. 2293 02:19:17,360 --> 02:19:24,280 He is such a rebel and feels this way about women in society 2294 02:19:24,280 --> 02:19:31,320 and women's place in society and how he's so like real and and 2295 02:19:31,440 --> 02:19:36,200 ahead of his time liberal. He's so liberal with his 2296 02:19:37,000 --> 02:19:42,040 thoughts about like women and and purity culture and stuff 2297 02:19:42,040 --> 02:19:44,760 like that. It's because of the situation 2298 02:19:44,799 --> 02:19:48,160 that happened in his past where his sister committed suicide 2299 02:19:49,040 --> 02:19:52,520 because the father would not accept this relationship between 2300 02:19:52,520 --> 02:19:54,400 her and the servant because this. 2301 02:19:54,400 --> 02:19:56,760 And then there was this whole thing of like the servant was 2302 02:19:58,000 --> 02:20:01,040 the last family of some. I'm like. 2303 02:20:01,280 --> 02:20:06,480 Like other noble family that the dad, like, unjustly took down. 2304 02:20:06,480 --> 02:20:09,680 And so he was working in the household and the father didn't 2305 02:20:09,680 --> 02:20:13,040 trust that he, like, truly loved her, that this was just a ploy 2306 02:20:13,520 --> 02:20:17,240 for him to get revenge for his. I was like, what the fuck this 2307 02:20:17,240 --> 02:20:18,160 is too. Much I would. 2308 02:20:18,320 --> 02:20:24,520 I would listen. It's OK if he's not a noble man. 2309 02:20:24,800 --> 02:20:27,560 It's OK, noble man. That's true. 2310 02:20:27,600 --> 02:20:30,480 It's OK. We're going to be OK. 2311 02:20:31,600 --> 02:20:36,400 If if the servant was not a no good and even if you know John 2312 02:20:36,400 --> 02:20:38,760 Hyun wasn't one, it would have been fine too. 2313 02:20:39,000 --> 02:20:42,240 But you're right though, that back story was important to see 2314 02:20:43,280 --> 02:20:45,920 why he's like that. You know where it came from and 2315 02:20:45,920 --> 02:20:47,160 stuff like that. But. 2316 02:20:48,040 --> 02:20:49,760 Why he's so compassionate toward her? 2317 02:20:50,120 --> 02:20:54,680 And compassionate towards towards that you know, but we 2318 02:20:54,680 --> 02:20:57,200 got it like at. The Unbelievable. 2319 02:20:58,440 --> 02:21:01,200 That's the end. 02 more things, Two more nitpicks that I have. 2320 02:21:01,200 --> 02:21:04,520 I don't know if you have these same picky nits, but I don't 2321 02:21:04,520 --> 02:21:06,600 think Anne should have taken background. 2322 02:21:06,600 --> 02:21:10,840 Doing say that again. They should have stayed broken. 2323 02:21:10,840 --> 02:21:11,720 Up. They should have stayed broken. 2324 02:21:11,920 --> 02:21:15,320 Up she goes to visit. She goes back to the house. 2325 02:21:15,320 --> 02:21:20,000 The house is of mess and he's like, can I come with you Back 2326 02:21:20,000 --> 02:21:20,680 to Nungun. Shameless. 2327 02:21:22,160 --> 02:21:24,240 Call him the audacious. The audacious. 2328 02:21:24,960 --> 02:21:28,080 The Audacious. No, I can't. 2329 02:21:28,920 --> 02:21:32,040 Like. The shamelessness on him because 2330 02:21:32,040 --> 02:21:35,800 he killed, he basically kills Jiang Hen and saves him at the 2331 02:21:35,800 --> 02:21:40,720 same time like this backward ass way he like saves him, but he's 2332 02:21:40,720 --> 02:21:45,680 been nothing but ruthless to her after she bared her soul to him. 2333 02:21:47,080 --> 02:21:48,920 And Endei was such a precious soul. 2334 02:21:48,920 --> 02:21:53,040 She didn't deserve that at all. He did not deserve her at. 2335 02:21:53,600 --> 02:21:56,240 All. Yongjun did not deserve her, so 2336 02:21:56,240 --> 02:21:57,680 I don't think she should have taken him back. 2337 02:21:57,960 --> 02:22:00,920 And number last thing I have here is Big Hyung Nim. 2338 02:22:01,200 --> 02:22:04,760 Did he did he have to die? Actually, I don't think he did. 2339 02:22:05,160 --> 02:22:08,600 They. Big Hyung Nim played by one of 2340 02:22:08,600 --> 02:22:14,080 the best actors to Trey MU. Oh my God, Trey MU Song. 2341 02:22:14,400 --> 02:22:17,400 I love that actor. He's been in so many things and 2342 02:22:17,400 --> 02:22:19,600 I don't think he had to die. Like I thought they were going 2343 02:22:19,600 --> 02:22:23,600 to give him a little arc for him to get over his own misogyny and 2344 02:22:23,600 --> 02:22:25,880 unfair prejudice and get with that Lady who ended up 2345 02:22:25,880 --> 02:22:29,360 tragically losing her baby. I was. 2346 02:22:29,360 --> 02:22:30,920 Waiting I was waiting for. That never happened. 2347 02:22:30,960 --> 02:22:33,120 He died. I'm like don't give, don't tease 2348 02:22:33,120 --> 02:22:35,120 me like that, Don't tease me with. 2349 02:22:35,800 --> 02:22:38,840 Don't tease me. Because I'm like, you're giving 2350 02:22:38,840 --> 02:22:40,960 little hints here and there between them too. 2351 02:22:41,040 --> 02:22:44,000 And I'm like, oh, nothing, He died. 2352 02:22:44,240 --> 02:22:47,600 I'm like, OK, Yep, that was unnecessary. 2353 02:22:48,280 --> 02:22:49,480 Yeah, He didn't have to die for sure. 2354 02:22:50,400 --> 02:22:54,480 I don't think so. Yeah, I will always remember 2355 02:22:54,480 --> 02:22:57,760 them kissing in the fields. That is such an iconic scene. 2356 02:22:58,000 --> 02:22:59,440 In part one, I. Love that scene. 2357 02:22:59,640 --> 02:23:04,080 Iconic scene, lots of sweeping shots, color and movement in the 2358 02:23:04,080 --> 02:23:08,120 cinematography and I will always remember some of that OST as 2359 02:23:08,120 --> 02:23:08,960 well. Good stuff. 2360 02:23:09,920 --> 02:23:17,120 Yeah, my basic notes are well casted and well OST like the 2361 02:23:17,120 --> 02:23:20,360 OST. I love that. 2362 02:23:20,360 --> 02:23:24,600 Well, OST. The OST just fits so perfect. 2363 02:23:26,240 --> 02:23:29,920 I was like, oh, this is so good. Perfect for this, the, you know, 2364 02:23:29,960 --> 02:23:34,440 psychic. And just for the whole, Yeah, I 2365 02:23:34,480 --> 02:23:35,480 loved it. Epic. 2366 02:23:36,720 --> 02:23:38,200 I have come to the end of my notes. 2367 02:23:38,200 --> 02:23:40,960 They were extensive. I'm so sorry, but I had to get 2368 02:23:41,280 --> 02:23:45,040 it all out now so that I can close the book on the my dearest 2369 02:23:45,040 --> 02:23:46,520 era for myself. OK. 2370 02:23:47,480 --> 02:23:49,360 Do you have anything else you want to add to Rush? 2371 02:23:49,400 --> 02:23:54,600 See, my last notes are I said, I said that. 2372 02:23:54,600 --> 02:23:58,760 I said that I have to do an honorable mention. 2373 02:24:00,720 --> 02:24:03,880 OK, so we don't really touch much on the king. 2374 02:24:04,200 --> 02:24:06,560 He was trash. Oh my God, the. 2375 02:24:07,280 --> 02:24:08,880 King. He was definitely trash. 2376 02:24:10,760 --> 02:24:11,560 What a. Farce. 2377 02:24:12,760 --> 02:24:17,840 But however I did actually, I think I really like Crown 2378 02:24:17,840 --> 02:24:19,240 Prince. Like, I really liked his 2379 02:24:19,240 --> 02:24:20,720 character, even though he wasn't a. 2380 02:24:21,240 --> 02:24:23,440 Interesting. He wasn't a perfect character, 2381 02:24:23,520 --> 02:24:27,680 but I liked his development and where he came from. 2382 02:24:27,680 --> 02:24:31,840 And then at one point he was like he he was able to see. 2383 02:24:32,360 --> 02:24:33,760 I feel like he would have been a good king. 2384 02:24:34,240 --> 02:24:36,680 He was able to develop. Into a good king. 2385 02:24:36,680 --> 02:24:39,520 And with the help of, you know, John Han too. 2386 02:24:40,360 --> 02:24:42,760 And I feel like it was a shame that he died. 2387 02:24:43,800 --> 02:24:46,200 It was a shame that he died. It was a shame that he died. 2388 02:24:46,960 --> 02:24:48,520 Were you surprised when he died? I was so shocked. 2389 02:24:50,320 --> 02:24:55,200 I was shocked like he was. So he was looking really sickly 2390 02:24:55,400 --> 02:24:59,840 and tasty throughout the like progressively throughout the 2391 02:24:59,840 --> 02:25:04,520 show and he ends up finally back home in Korea or toss on. 2392 02:25:04,520 --> 02:25:08,080 And when he says like, oh, I have to wait for the Crown 2393 02:25:08,080 --> 02:25:12,960 Princess to for her to come back with her like porridge or 2394 02:25:12,960 --> 02:25:16,920 something like that, milk tea or something she was going to bring 2395 02:25:16,920 --> 02:25:19,360 him. And then that's it. 2396 02:25:19,360 --> 02:25:21,880 He fucking like breathes his last right there, like open 2397 02:25:21,880 --> 02:25:24,160 eyes, just the soul leaves the body. 2398 02:25:24,160 --> 02:25:26,880 And I was like, what? I was shocked. 2399 02:25:27,600 --> 02:25:29,720 That's it though. That's it. 2400 02:25:29,880 --> 02:25:30,640 That's it. Because. 2401 02:25:31,120 --> 02:25:39,080 That's all he said. I was very annoyed because him 2402 02:25:39,160 --> 02:25:43,880 his interaction between him and Jong Hyun, I loved. 2403 02:25:44,480 --> 02:25:48,720 I loved it so much because they challenge each other well, Jong 2404 02:25:48,800 --> 02:25:52,640 Hyun challenged him so much and. Yes. 2405 02:25:52,840 --> 02:25:56,760 As much as like you know. Questioned his authority? 2406 02:25:57,040 --> 02:25:59,360 Invalid. Ways definitely. 2407 02:25:59,360 --> 02:26:04,160 And at some point he starts to get it and he starts to like be 2408 02:26:04,160 --> 02:26:07,320 open, open minded. And it's just such a shame 2409 02:26:07,320 --> 02:26:08,560 because he could have been a good king. 2410 02:26:08,560 --> 02:26:13,960 And I feel like they I was just expecting and their relationship 2411 02:26:13,960 --> 02:26:17,680 between John Kian and the Crown Prince to develop which I was 2412 02:26:17,680 --> 02:26:22,600 happy when he when John Kian said to the king like I was not 2413 02:26:22,600 --> 02:26:25,840 just the interpreter, I was a very cherished his. 2414 02:26:26,080 --> 02:26:29,720 Cherished. Interpreter So I feel like 2415 02:26:29,720 --> 02:26:32,800 justice to Crown Prince, even though, like he wasn't, you 2416 02:26:32,800 --> 02:26:36,600 know, the best. He was a little, he was a little 2417 02:26:36,680 --> 02:26:42,040 nasty earlier. But I feel like it's it was a 2418 02:26:42,040 --> 02:26:48,920 good got like you know 2 male. Well they're not friends but how 2419 02:26:48,960 --> 02:26:51,880 they're you know he John, he had just impacted him. 2420 02:26:52,720 --> 02:26:55,120 He just impacted him. There was like a mutual respect 2421 02:26:55,120 --> 02:26:56,800 there by the end. Because they kept looking for 2422 02:26:56,800 --> 02:26:58,960 John Young. What do I do now, bro? 2423 02:26:59,200 --> 02:27:02,680 Yeah, you know, And he's done. Yeah, he was a playmaker. 2424 02:27:02,800 --> 02:27:05,880 And so I just yeah. Also shout out to the Crown 2425 02:27:05,880 --> 02:27:10,360 Princess who died really brutally, like she was poisoned 2426 02:27:10,360 --> 02:27:11,720 for days. It was bad. 2427 02:27:11,880 --> 02:27:17,240 It was bad. She got framed by the by the 2428 02:27:17,240 --> 02:27:22,920 concubine that she was leaving trinkets around the palace that 2429 02:27:22,920 --> 02:27:26,200 were cursing her elders and the the the king. 2430 02:27:26,440 --> 02:27:27,600 That was a little frustrating to. 2431 02:27:27,720 --> 02:27:29,520 It was dumb as shit, all right? It was dumb. 2432 02:27:29,880 --> 02:27:31,200 That's it. Yeah. 2433 02:27:31,320 --> 02:27:33,520 Anyway, great show, great show, great show. 2434 02:27:33,560 --> 02:27:36,640 I got a great time. Great show. 2435 02:27:36,760 --> 02:27:38,840 Yeah, highly recommend. If you've come this far. 2436 02:27:38,840 --> 02:27:42,000 I am so sorry, but we might have spoiled the whole show for you. 2437 02:27:42,000 --> 02:27:45,000 It was a happy ending. Finally, I think everyone was. 2438 02:27:45,600 --> 02:27:48,080 It's not that I'm upset that it was a happy ending, I'm just 2439 02:27:48,080 --> 02:27:50,760 upset the the little baby journey that we took at the end 2440 02:27:50,760 --> 02:27:53,000 there was like a little necessary. 2441 02:27:53,000 --> 02:27:54,920 Annoying but. Yeah. 2442 02:27:54,960 --> 02:27:57,560 Whatever. That's it though. 2443 02:27:58,080 --> 02:28:00,400 We've come to the end of it. Sarai, I want to thank you so 2444 02:28:00,400 --> 02:28:03,240 much for coming on this show and for spending all of this time 2445 02:28:03,240 --> 02:28:07,720 and coming prepared and just being so enthusiastic about my 2446 02:28:07,720 --> 02:28:10,960 dearest with me. Because I was like, look, I was 2447 02:28:10,960 --> 02:28:14,760 like looking for someone to share this experience with who 2448 02:28:14,760 --> 02:28:18,640 would just, like, get it and be super on board with doing this 2449 02:28:18,640 --> 02:28:21,240 last minute episode that I was like, you know what, I think we, 2450 02:28:21,480 --> 02:28:22,800 I think I need to talk about this. 2451 02:28:22,800 --> 02:28:26,840 So thank you so much. Where can we find you online? 2452 02:28:27,520 --> 02:28:31,800 Instagram for sure. You'll find me there at K Drama 2453 02:28:31,800 --> 02:28:35,680 Cafe under score Podcast and that's pretty much it. 2454 02:28:35,680 --> 02:28:38,560 I have a TikTok K Drama Cafe under score Podcast. 2455 02:28:38,560 --> 02:28:41,680 I barely post anything there, but for sure Instagram. 2456 02:28:41,720 --> 02:28:47,400 And then my podcast is you can find K Drama Cafe Podcast. 2457 02:28:48,640 --> 02:28:50,840 Yeah, Spotify. K Drama Cafe. 2458 02:28:51,080 --> 02:28:54,680 So we had sold You and Cafecito today. 2459 02:28:58,880 --> 02:28:59,960 What is it? Combo. 2460 02:28:59,960 --> 02:29:04,960 But you know, combo so. Yeah, gumbo shots. 2461 02:29:04,960 --> 02:29:09,080 So that's it. We'll see you next time. 2462 02:29:09,200 --> 02:29:12,000 I'm Jessica and this has been the Tabaki Rabbits podcast. 2463 02:29:30,680 --> 02:30:02,800 The. The.