1 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,680 I'm Jessica and this is Teva K Rambles, where a couple of 2 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,280 friends review Korean dramas and welcome to another episode. 3 00:00:24,740 --> 00:00:27,260 Where I have my good friend Carol back with me. 4 00:00:27,540 --> 00:00:32,820 Carol from K Drama Musings and an admin for K Drama K Dramatics 5 00:00:32,820 --> 00:00:34,500 Club. I am so thrilled that you're 6 00:00:34,500 --> 00:00:35,620 back. Carol, how you been? 7 00:00:37,340 --> 00:00:38,820 I've been good. How have you been? 8 00:00:39,860 --> 00:00:43,740 I've been well, let's just really quick just say that the 9 00:00:43,740 --> 00:00:46,500 last time we were together was for love between fairy and 10 00:00:46,500 --> 00:00:50,090 devil. Which I think everyone and their 11 00:00:50,090 --> 00:00:53,690 mom listen to that episode. It's very well received. 12 00:00:53,730 --> 00:00:56,730 People are very excited to hear us talk about love between fairy 13 00:00:56,730 --> 00:00:59,090 and devil. And now we've got a few C dramas 14 00:00:59,090 --> 00:01:02,770 in rotation now for Tebak, because it's it. 15 00:01:02,770 --> 00:01:04,970 I love C dramas. It's not a problem for me to 16 00:01:04,970 --> 00:01:09,570 cover Z dramas, but I know we are K rambles and we are here to 17 00:01:09,570 --> 00:01:13,730 talk about a very huge Korean drama today. 18 00:01:14,010 --> 00:01:19,780 Carol Carol's like already. I'm already losing my mind 19 00:01:19,780 --> 00:01:22,940 because this is my absolute favorite K drama. 20 00:01:23,780 --> 00:01:28,780 When I approached you for covering coffee prints, I think 21 00:01:28,780 --> 00:01:30,300 this was the beginning of the year. 22 00:01:30,300 --> 00:01:32,820 I want to say it was like six months ago and I was like, 23 00:01:32,820 --> 00:01:35,700 Carol, do you want to come on and do coffee prints? 24 00:01:35,780 --> 00:01:39,470 And you freaked out. And you were, like, absolutely 25 00:01:39,630 --> 00:01:41,830 so fucking lutely. I want to do it. 26 00:01:42,430 --> 00:01:45,630 And I feel bad that it's taken so long for us to get here. 27 00:01:45,630 --> 00:01:48,070 It feels like we were. I've given birth to something 28 00:01:48,430 --> 00:01:51,870 and we're finally going to talk about coffee prints together. 29 00:01:53,030 --> 00:01:55,430 You know what? I don't mind it at all, because 30 00:01:55,430 --> 00:02:02,070 it gave me a chance to rewatch it twice in the time that we in 31 00:02:02,070 --> 00:02:07,690 the time that you asked me and. I got so nerdy, I got to a point 32 00:02:07,690 --> 00:02:11,730 where I was like trying to figure out their MB TI and it 33 00:02:11,770 --> 00:02:14,050 was it took me away, It took me away. 34 00:02:15,450 --> 00:02:18,010 Carol, I think I might have to lean on you a little bit for 35 00:02:18,010 --> 00:02:21,970 this episode because this is the first time I've rewatched coffee 36 00:02:21,970 --> 00:02:26,050 prints since originally watching the show, I want to say a decade 37 00:02:26,050 --> 00:02:30,450 ago. What I watched it like you know 38 00:02:30,450 --> 00:02:35,590 that meme. 50 time? No. 500 time likely. 39 00:02:35,750 --> 00:02:38,110 That's me. This is my show. 40 00:02:38,150 --> 00:02:40,310 Definitely me. Yeah, I knew I was my right 41 00:02:40,310 --> 00:02:42,790 person. I knew that I had asked the 42 00:02:42,790 --> 00:02:46,910 right person to join me for this adventure into coffee prints 43 00:02:47,150 --> 00:02:50,270 when you were like, this is my favorite K drama. 44 00:02:50,270 --> 00:02:52,990 I can't believe it. Like you were so thrilled. 45 00:02:53,430 --> 00:02:56,330 And we're finally here. Before we get started, a little 46 00:02:56,330 --> 00:02:58,770 housekeeping If this is your first time listening, please go 47 00:02:58,770 --> 00:03:00,890 ahead and subscribe on your favorite podcast app. 48 00:03:01,170 --> 00:03:04,450 We're on Apple Podcast, Spotify, Google Podcasts, and many more. 49 00:03:04,810 --> 00:03:07,370 And if you like us, please give us a 5 star review on Apple 50 00:03:07,370 --> 00:03:10,330 Podcasts or Spotify. That goes such a long way for 51 00:03:10,330 --> 00:03:12,650 listeners just like you to discover the podcast. 52 00:03:13,290 --> 00:03:16,050 And please come say hi. 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I feel like I'm rapping when I 64 00:03:49,070 --> 00:03:51,510 say your names, but thank you guys so much. 65 00:03:51,510 --> 00:03:55,070 You guys are wonderful. And I mean this is it. 66 00:03:55,070 --> 00:03:56,510 We're going to get into it right now. 67 00:03:56,510 --> 00:03:58,230 Coffee. Prints. 68 00:03:58,230 --> 00:04:00,430 I will read the My Drama List synopsis. 69 00:04:00,430 --> 00:04:04,550 It reads Cheyhan Gill is the grandson of Chairwoman. 70 00:04:04,970 --> 00:04:08,370 Ang of Dong in Foods. He has never had a job and does 71 00:04:08,370 --> 00:04:12,410 not care for responsibility. Han Kil is hung up on his first 72 00:04:12,410 --> 00:04:15,490 love, Han Yuju, who only sees him as a friend. 73 00:04:16,329 --> 00:04:20,209 Konchan is a 24 year old tomboy who is often mistaken for a guy. 74 00:04:20,209 --> 00:04:23,730 Her father died when she was 16 years old and since then she has 75 00:04:23,730 --> 00:04:26,090 taken over as the breadwinner of her in her family. 76 00:04:26,470 --> 00:04:30,150 When Han Kil and Untan meet, he, not knowing that she's a girl, 77 00:04:30,150 --> 00:04:33,950 decides to hire her to pretend to be his gay lover so that he 78 00:04:33,950 --> 00:04:36,870 can escape the blind dates arranged by his grandmother. 79 00:04:37,190 --> 00:04:41,150 After getting an ultimatum from his grandmother, Han Kil takes 80 00:04:41,150 --> 00:04:46,590 over a rundown old coffee shop, later renamed Coffee Prince, to 81 00:04:46,590 --> 00:04:49,910 prove that he's capable to both his grandmother and you two. 82 00:04:50,350 --> 00:04:52,870 In order to attract female customers, he only hires good 83 00:04:52,870 --> 00:04:56,360 looking male employees. And Untan, desperate for money, 84 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,480 continues to hide her gender. Gender. 85 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,160 To get a job at coffee prints. Yeah, so. 86 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,720 How is this not a good premise? Tell me. 87 00:05:08,280 --> 00:05:10,560 Oh my God. So I was reading some articles 88 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,920 from back in the day from when this aired, and it's some 89 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,840 interviews with the creators, which we'll get into in a 90 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:19,360 second. And they they were like some 91 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,480 people were complaining that this is not a realistic show. 92 00:05:23,850 --> 00:05:29,170 And I was like, OK, so first of all, second of all and third of 93 00:05:29,170 --> 00:05:31,410 all, did you not read the synopsis? 94 00:05:31,410 --> 00:05:33,930 This is not a realistic show by any stress. 95 00:05:34,370 --> 00:05:39,610 No and and I find it so funny that depending on the show, 96 00:05:39,890 --> 00:05:45,210 we're always arguing this is not realistic or I want to escape 97 00:05:45,290 --> 00:05:46,050 like, what do you. Want. 98 00:05:46,050 --> 00:05:47,530 What do you want? What do you want, babe? 99 00:05:47,730 --> 00:05:51,610 Because this is not really about not watching coffee prints for 100 00:05:51,610 --> 00:05:56,790 realism, OK? Exactly, but I will say it's one 101 00:05:56,790 --> 00:05:59,830 of the realest shows out there to me. 102 00:06:00,110 --> 00:06:02,110 That's two different definitions of real. 103 00:06:02,230 --> 00:06:05,190 Two different definitions for real okay. 104 00:06:05,310 --> 00:06:06,950 So Coffee Prints, I didn't know this. 105 00:06:06,950 --> 00:06:09,870 Coffee Prints was adapted from the novel Coffee Prints by 106 00:06:09,870 --> 00:06:13,790 Easton Lee, and it aired originally from July to August 107 00:06:13,790 --> 00:06:17,880 2007. We're back with another summer 108 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,560 show in the summer. I know I. 109 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:25,680 Know it's 17 episodes long and it was directed by female 110 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,320 director Ian Zhong. I feel like that's pretty rare 111 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,080 to have a female director or PD, however you want to call it. 112 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,760 And she's directed other things like she's in the trap. 113 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,080 Sorry about it. I'm so sorry that we had to say 114 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,080 she's in the Trap and bring it back on the show, but she 115 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,240 directed Cheese in The Trap, The Lies Within in 2019, as well as 116 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,950 Summer Strike. From 2020 to yes, I loved 117 00:06:48,950 --> 00:06:50,950 summer. I loved so much, right? 118 00:06:51,470 --> 00:06:54,310 Yeah, the. Vibe and and she wrote it. 119 00:06:54,510 --> 00:06:56,070 Oh yeah, that's right. That's right. 120 00:06:56,510 --> 00:06:58,710 Yeah, so. So that's huge. 121 00:06:58,790 --> 00:07:03,230 I know For coffee prints, the writers are E Young E Jung Ah, 122 00:07:03,670 --> 00:07:07,070 and Jung Hyung New. I'm sorry, Jung Hyun Do. 123 00:07:07,350 --> 00:07:10,150 And this was their first writing credits ever. 124 00:07:10,510 --> 00:07:15,010 Both of them. yo-yo. Yo, perfect. 125 00:07:15,130 --> 00:07:17,610 Yeah. And of course, we'll get into 126 00:07:17,610 --> 00:07:22,130 who stars and coffee prints. Kong Yu stars as Han Kil. 127 00:07:22,290 --> 00:07:26,690 He was a grand total of 28 years old when he did coffee prints. 128 00:07:27,130 --> 00:07:32,810 Talk to me about your feelings around Kong Yu. 129 00:07:35,730 --> 00:07:40,690 Kong Yu I have to comport myself. 130 00:07:40,890 --> 00:07:42,410 No, I see. It but. 131 00:07:43,470 --> 00:07:50,190 I love that man so much. I think he is very talented. 132 00:07:50,230 --> 00:07:53,710 I love what he has done with his career. 133 00:07:53,710 --> 00:07:59,110 So earlier, you know, I really loved him and his first one, he 134 00:07:59,110 --> 00:08:02,470 was like a high school kid and then he does. 135 00:08:02,590 --> 00:08:05,670 Hello Biscuit. No before Biscuit. 136 00:08:05,950 --> 00:08:10,470 So this is before he got bigger. So I saw him and I saw all of 137 00:08:10,470 --> 00:08:13,110 that and then I saw Hello, my teacher. 138 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,240 Or biscuit teacher. And I loved it so much. 139 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,560 It was problematic because there's a teacher and a student, 140 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:27,400 but it was really well acted. He acted the part of a very 141 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,600 emotional teenager very well to me. 142 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:37,480 And then Coffee Prince came along and I was just like, I'm 143 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,980 short circuiting because what? What the fuck did you watch 144 00:08:41,980 --> 00:08:44,220 coffee Prints when it aired in 2007? 145 00:08:44,220 --> 00:08:45,900 Because you were watching. You've been watching K dramas 146 00:08:45,900 --> 00:08:47,780 for a very long time. Did were you? 147 00:08:47,780 --> 00:08:50,260 There. Yeah, I was not there. 148 00:08:50,260 --> 00:08:54,540 I watched it in October 20, 2007. 149 00:08:55,100 --> 00:08:58,420 Oh, so few months after, yeah. Basically, you were there. 150 00:08:59,940 --> 00:09:04,860 Basically, it was harder to find currently airing dramas back 151 00:09:04,860 --> 00:09:08,520 then. That was my soul Jew that. 152 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,120 It was a website I was using and that's where I watched it and it 153 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:19,200 was just perfect. Kung Yu has, I think, become a 154 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,320 household name. He's a national treasure, and 155 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,120 this was his this was his breakout role in Coffee Prince. 156 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,040 This is where everybody was like, Oh my God, they fell head 157 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:33,170 over heels for Kung Yu. And he's gone on to do really 158 00:09:33,170 --> 00:09:36,810 varied, interesting projects in movies and TV. 159 00:09:37,410 --> 00:09:41,450 And we talked about it a little bit on our Goblin episode, 160 00:09:41,450 --> 00:09:44,010 because of course we covered Goblin a couple seasons ago. 161 00:09:44,010 --> 00:09:49,610 And I mean Goblin itself. 2016 was a huge year for him, The 162 00:09:49,610 --> 00:09:52,010 cameo and Squid game. We got Squid Game 2 coming up 163 00:09:52,010 --> 00:09:55,450 next year in 2024. He's a Netflix guy now since he 164 00:09:55,450 --> 00:09:58,490 started in the silent see. And I really like his his 165 00:09:58,490 --> 00:10:00,210 movies, to be quite honest with you. 166 00:10:00,210 --> 00:10:05,890 I love the movies that he's done Silenced in 2011, which he sort 167 00:10:05,890 --> 00:10:09,450 of pioneered and was like a producer on. 168 00:10:09,450 --> 00:10:12,930 Basically, I'm one of the best movies I've ever seen in my 169 00:10:12,930 --> 00:10:15,690 life, very moving, very hard to watch. 170 00:10:17,370 --> 00:10:21,810 So do you have any, like thoughts on him as a persona? 171 00:10:21,810 --> 00:10:25,290 Because I think we can obviously sort of look to his works and be 172 00:10:25,290 --> 00:10:26,890 like he's a great actor, really good. 173 00:10:27,940 --> 00:10:32,300 Performer, but I think a lot of people also sort of feel like 174 00:10:32,300 --> 00:10:35,580 he's a bit endearing, especially now that he has an Instagram 175 00:10:35,580 --> 00:10:39,900 account and all. That it took forever, I was. 176 00:10:40,020 --> 00:10:44,460 Like him and his cats and the pets, because he's a cat man. 177 00:10:45,460 --> 00:10:50,100 I was like one of the 1st 100 people I remember. 178 00:10:50,850 --> 00:10:53,370 To follow him on Instagram because I was losing my miles, 179 00:10:53,370 --> 00:10:57,090 like finally. And then he's just a dork on 180 00:10:57,130 --> 00:11:01,210 Instagram. A pure nerd, so he. 181 00:11:01,290 --> 00:11:06,410 Made me He definitely made me reconsider my swiping left on 182 00:11:06,410 --> 00:11:09,210 apps for guys who have fish in their hands. 183 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,760 Because to me, I was like, oh, he's hot. 184 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,160 Like, yes, a fish. But on the dating apps, I'm just 185 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,560 like, what is fish? Are you expecting me to cook? 186 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,600 Like, what's what's going on here? 187 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,240 Swipe left every single time. So now I've worked on my 188 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,760 prejudice. Yeah. 189 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:34,960 But I think, yeah, I think his persona is I love that he's 190 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,160 mysterious. He keeps me very. 191 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:39,760 Interested in what's happening with Gong You. 192 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,880 He's very private, but he's also very loyal, which I really 193 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,080 appreciate and really love seeing to be honest. 194 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:55,840 Because he's been with his stylist, for example, since 2005 195 00:11:55,840 --> 00:12:02,720 or 2006, and they've become best friends and you see pictures of 196 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:07,610 them on her profile. And like they went on a trip for 197 00:12:07,610 --> 00:12:11,210 her birthday and they had matching shirts and like a group 198 00:12:11,210 --> 00:12:14,810 of friends and it's just adorable, adorable and he's 199 00:12:14,810 --> 00:12:19,970 still working with her. So I I found that very, very 200 00:12:20,250 --> 00:12:24,450 endearing And his relationship or friendship with Eden walk to 201 00:12:24,490 --> 00:12:31,890 his absolute it's fantastic, so. I I really like him. 202 00:12:31,890 --> 00:12:37,010 I also like how he doesn't actually make any political 203 00:12:37,010 --> 00:12:41,370 statements except through his work, so through Silenced 204 00:12:41,810 --> 00:12:47,370 through supporting or being a member of 1982 Kim G Young, that 205 00:12:47,490 --> 00:12:48,570 movie. He did, yeah. 206 00:12:48,570 --> 00:12:50,890 He was a husband. Of that movie. 207 00:12:51,330 --> 00:12:53,970 Great, great guy to me all around. 208 00:12:53,970 --> 00:12:56,610 I agree. I think he's really sort of a 209 00:12:56,610 --> 00:12:59,350 perfect. Sort of specimen. 210 00:12:59,350 --> 00:13:04,470 I feel like he's Leo DiCaprio without all of the Ibiza Yaffes, 211 00:13:04,790 --> 00:13:09,550 with the with the hot models that are 25 or younger. 212 00:13:09,950 --> 00:13:14,390 He is just without all that. He is the Leo DiCaprio to be of 213 00:13:14,590 --> 00:13:18,070 Korea, you know? Yes, I agree. 214 00:13:18,190 --> 00:13:19,590 Yeah, I agree. What a babe. 215 00:13:19,950 --> 00:13:24,360 Great guy. Great guy. 10 out of 10. 10 out 216 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,320 of 10 So his Co starring Coffee Prince is Yunnan Hey who plays 217 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,800 Untun. She was a grand total of 23 218 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:35,440 years old when she starred in Coffee Prince and I don't know 219 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,120 if a lot of people know this about her, but she debuted as a 220 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,480 member of a girl girl group, Baby Vox or Baby Vox. 221 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,920 I'm not sure how you say some of these K Pop group names and she 222 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:50,200 was with the group until 05 and then she was with a project 223 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:56,740 group WSG Wannabe. In 20 up to 2022, so she is an 224 00:13:56,740 --> 00:14:01,180 idol turned actor. There's a ton of idol do you 225 00:14:01,180 --> 00:14:04,980 throw rock and you hit an idol in Page drama world okay. 226 00:14:06,420 --> 00:14:11,220 I think that she is sort of a divisive figure now that I 227 00:14:11,220 --> 00:14:14,340 didn't notice many years ago when I was watching her works, 228 00:14:14,940 --> 00:14:21,340 but now she's just sort of relegated to the reality. 229 00:14:22,410 --> 00:14:26,290 What are they called, like Running Man and those kind of 230 00:14:26,290 --> 00:14:30,210 shows instead of doing K dramas? She really hasn't done any K 231 00:14:30,210 --> 00:14:34,130 dramas or TV or sorry, movie works since 2018. 232 00:14:34,570 --> 00:14:40,930 But Yunnan hey is such a formative figure in the early 233 00:14:40,930 --> 00:14:51,240 2000s and I I just, I loved her. And she was the my first K drama 234 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,880 was one of her K dramas. So she holds a very special 235 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,560 place for me. She was in Lie to Me in 2011, 236 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,000 which is one of her most terrible shows. 237 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,320 Like it was not well received. People didn't like that show and 238 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,120 I watched it. That was my first K drama ever. 239 00:15:11,420 --> 00:15:15,180 Yeah, So she's holds a very special place in my heart 240 00:15:15,180 --> 00:15:18,380 because she's my first K drama leading lady that I ever saw. 241 00:15:18,820 --> 00:15:21,420 And then I went on to watch a bunch of her other works, like 242 00:15:21,420 --> 00:15:25,220 Princess Hours, aka Kung Yeah, which is 06. 243 00:15:25,580 --> 00:15:29,180 The year before Coffee Prince, she starred in Princess Hours, 244 00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:32,620 which by the way is getting a remake that's happening next 245 00:15:32,620 --> 00:15:34,700 year. I saw that. 246 00:15:34,780 --> 00:15:38,220 Unbelievable. And then My Fair Lady in 09, I 247 00:15:38,220 --> 00:15:41,290 missed you from 2012. Which I don't know if you've 248 00:15:41,290 --> 00:15:43,650 seen that one. She was like, I don't even want 249 00:15:43,650 --> 00:15:47,010 to go over the plot, but that was a very, I think the term is 250 00:15:47,010 --> 00:15:50,170 mellow thriller. Yeah, so she was. 251 00:15:50,210 --> 00:15:51,730 I saw that one. Yeah. 252 00:15:52,490 --> 00:15:57,050 I think the one I did not like the most was My Fair Lady. 253 00:15:57,170 --> 00:16:00,010 OK, I never watched that one. I don't know why, but I. 254 00:16:00,010 --> 00:16:05,370 Stayed clear of it. I loved my favorite from her are 255 00:16:05,530 --> 00:16:07,410 Princess Hours, which was her first time. 256 00:16:09,470 --> 00:16:14,550 Coffee prints and lied to me. I actually really. 257 00:16:14,870 --> 00:16:17,030 Lied to me. Okay, Let's talk. 258 00:16:17,270 --> 00:16:21,630 Really like a minute on lied to me because lied to me. 259 00:16:21,630 --> 00:16:24,190 Had every trope, right? It had. 260 00:16:24,670 --> 00:16:27,470 What was it like? She lied that she was in a 261 00:16:27,470 --> 00:16:31,110 relationship with this dude, Then he found out about it, got 262 00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:35,390 upset, then went along with it. I believe there was a cherry 263 00:16:35,390 --> 00:16:39,010 blossoms scene. There was the wrist grabbing 264 00:16:39,010 --> 00:16:43,770 Cocacola, the Cocacola Kiss. Are you joking me? 265 00:16:44,290 --> 00:16:46,370 Are you? That was the best Cocacola. 266 00:16:47,690 --> 00:16:52,130 Ever I was shook it when I saw this And you know what I came 267 00:16:52,130 --> 00:16:56,090 from watching. I'm telling you like this summer 268 00:16:56,090 --> 00:16:58,730 or something after I got out of college and I got my first job 269 00:16:58,730 --> 00:17:01,570 and I had all of this extra time on my hands that I wasn't 270 00:17:01,570 --> 00:17:03,410 studying. I wasn't going to class. 271 00:17:03,410 --> 00:17:06,130 I was just going to work had what do I do with all this time. 272 00:17:06,839 --> 00:17:11,640 So I watched Lie to me that's I think that summer and I had just 273 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,400 come off of binging True Blood. OK. 274 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:19,280 Like I talked to my friends now and I'm like, yeah, I watched 275 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,280 True Blood. I I cannot tell you any specific 276 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,119 thing about True Blood. It was like a fever dream me 277 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,920 binging True Blood on this off the wall like bootleg site that 278 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,480 I had like it gave my computer viruses. 279 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,870 I. Watched True Blood and then I 280 00:17:35,870 --> 00:17:39,750 got hooked on K dramas. So to me, I was shocked that I 281 00:17:39,750 --> 00:17:45,950 was so into this whole like wrist grab and like glances and 282 00:17:45,950 --> 00:17:50,630 like really it was playing up the intimacy and the romance of 283 00:17:50,630 --> 00:17:53,230 everything, right? And then you hit, then you hit 284 00:17:53,230 --> 00:17:58,110 the Cocacola kiss scene 10 on it. 285 00:17:58,470 --> 00:18:01,430 Never got empty. Damn fantastic. 286 00:18:02,590 --> 00:18:04,950 So so that's just putting it into context for you. 287 00:18:05,390 --> 00:18:09,910 Lie to me is probably not the best show that I've ever 288 00:18:09,910 --> 00:18:13,710 watched, but I think it's underrated to a point. 289 00:18:13,710 --> 00:18:15,710 I think you should watch it if you have. 290 00:18:16,030 --> 00:18:17,670 It I do think you should watch it now. 291 00:18:17,670 --> 00:18:24,470 Granted, Kanjiwan is no longer like in the sphere of acting 292 00:18:24,470 --> 00:18:26,870 because of his scandals and everything, but. 293 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,640 He's a great actor. Hon Gil Dong. 294 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,520 He did a show called Hon Gil Do He? 295 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:33,720 Did, yeah. Yeah. 296 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:35,680 Yeah. Yeah, and he did. 297 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,480 Capital Scandal. Those are two really, really 298 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,480 good shows. Yeah, well, Yunnan had her own 299 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,280 scandals, right? Like she. 300 00:18:44,730 --> 00:18:47,370 Was embroiled in the scandal with her management and she 301 00:18:47,370 --> 00:18:49,410 tried to, she notified the contract. 302 00:18:49,410 --> 00:18:52,650 It was this whole thing. She had haters online when the 303 00:18:52,650 --> 00:18:54,930 Internet was new and it was very fierce. 304 00:18:54,930 --> 00:18:57,170 She got death threats and things like that. 305 00:18:57,170 --> 00:19:01,850 She was fearful of her life and I think then she went on some 306 00:19:01,850 --> 00:19:04,490 reality show where she designed an outfit. 307 00:19:05,530 --> 00:19:08,650 And it was. Plagiarized quote, UN quote. 308 00:19:08,690 --> 00:19:12,050 And that sort of sank her battleship. 309 00:19:12,050 --> 00:19:14,410 She didn't recover after that, and. 310 00:19:14,670 --> 00:19:19,430 You can tell by her body of work post like 2015 ish. 311 00:19:19,990 --> 00:19:23,830 Yeah, yeah, what? Just the types of projects that 312 00:19:23,830 --> 00:19:24,990 she's getting. It's not. 313 00:19:25,350 --> 00:19:28,630 Yeah, it's not the same anymore. Yeah, and she got criticized. 314 00:19:28,630 --> 00:19:30,750 She got ill. And yeah, and then she was ill, 315 00:19:30,750 --> 00:19:34,470 She was battling alcoholism. She said that she's sober about 316 00:19:34,470 --> 00:19:36,590 8 years now in a recent interview. 317 00:19:36,590 --> 00:19:39,750 And I'm just like Home Girl has been through it. 318 00:19:40,610 --> 00:19:44,810 Luru it so unan. Hey, if you really want to sink 319 00:19:44,810 --> 00:19:49,810 your teeth into some K dramas from yesteryear, look up unan 320 00:19:49,810 --> 00:19:55,570 his filmography and get to step in because this is what I that 321 00:19:55,610 --> 00:19:58,730 this is my introduction to K dramas was her K dramas and I 322 00:19:58,730 --> 00:20:03,130 feel like she is so great in a lot of things. 323 00:20:04,450 --> 00:20:07,370 Yeah, yeah, she is. So we'll wrap up the cast really 324 00:20:07,370 --> 00:20:10,690 fast. We have Ishan Kyun as Hansong, 325 00:20:11,610 --> 00:20:15,410 if you might know him as just Ajasi because he is the Ajasi 326 00:20:15,410 --> 00:20:21,490 from my Mr. in 20. 18 the. Voice so butter the voice so let 327 00:20:21,490 --> 00:20:23,730 me just say it. When I first watched coffee 328 00:20:23,730 --> 00:20:26,250 prints, I did not understand the appeal. 329 00:20:26,830 --> 00:20:29,350 Of Easton Kyun. I was like, why is this guy even 330 00:20:29,350 --> 00:20:31,270 a player? You know what I'm saying? 331 00:20:31,430 --> 00:20:33,350 Because I didn't get. I did not get it. 332 00:20:33,630 --> 00:20:39,470 I re watching Coffee Prince. The level of attraction that I 333 00:20:39,510 --> 00:20:42,670 feel for Easton Kyun, like what? Up through the roof? 334 00:20:42,950 --> 00:20:47,990 And it might be because I am way closer to his age that he was 335 00:20:47,990 --> 00:20:51,510 when he filmed the drama, because he was 32 years old when 336 00:20:51,510 --> 00:20:56,160 he filmed Coffee Prince, right? And that's exactly the same as 337 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,360 his character's age in the show. And I was like, I don't know, 338 00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:04,600 maybe it's just because I'm getting older and like the voice 339 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:09,000 and the little like mid 2000s get up that they had him in. 340 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:13,560 I was like babe. I ate it up. 341 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:18,400 I ate it all up. Oh God, so he's in the show. 342 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,280 He's the second male lead. I might call him cousin like. 343 00:21:22,670 --> 00:21:25,310 Throughout the show because I feel like Hansong, his 344 00:21:25,310 --> 00:21:31,430 character's name and the Hanco for Cole's character, really, 345 00:21:31,950 --> 00:21:33,750 that's been a cut. But I was listening to a 346 00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:35,270 podcast, I'd be like, are they the same guy? 347 00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:39,830 I'd get confused. So he's either Odyssey or Cousin 348 00:21:40,350 --> 00:21:42,990 as we're talking through. But yeah, you might have seen 349 00:21:42,990 --> 00:21:47,390 him in Parasite. Also in 20/19, he has like 40 350 00:21:47,390 --> 00:21:50,350 something credits to his name for just movies. 351 00:21:50,350 --> 00:21:53,060 He's a prolific actor. Amazing. 352 00:21:53,300 --> 00:21:54,220 My gosh. Yeah. 353 00:21:54,460 --> 00:21:58,260 You should see his show on Apple TV. 354 00:21:58,460 --> 00:22:00,900 I think it's Dr. Brain. Dr. Brain. 355 00:22:01,180 --> 00:22:04,380 Really good. And then on Prime Video. 356 00:22:07,410 --> 00:22:09,330 Money and power. Something around money and 357 00:22:09,410 --> 00:22:10,850 power. It was so good. 358 00:22:11,210 --> 00:22:13,090 Yeah, it was so. Oh, that man. 359 00:22:13,250 --> 00:22:15,810 Yeah. What a man, What a man. 360 00:22:15,970 --> 00:22:18,650 I don't know. I don't know him at 32 years old 361 00:22:18,650 --> 00:22:21,330 and 07 was like doing things to me this time. 362 00:22:22,250 --> 00:22:25,490 And I was like, maybe I was, didn't watch coffee prints at 363 00:22:25,490 --> 00:22:28,450 the right time in my life to, like, appreciate this second 364 00:22:28,450 --> 00:22:33,010 male league because I had a bad, I had second lead syndrome so 365 00:22:33,010 --> 00:22:35,420 bad. On this rewatch of coffee 366 00:22:35,420 --> 00:22:37,220 prints, to be quite honest with you. 367 00:22:39,020 --> 00:22:42,820 I feel you, OK. So TE Jong UN plays Han Yu Ju. 368 00:22:42,820 --> 00:22:45,860 She's the second female lead. She is also a singer turned 369 00:22:45,860 --> 00:22:48,580 actress. And then we have a host of 370 00:22:48,580 --> 00:22:50,860 Princess here that we can go through really fast. 371 00:22:51,500 --> 00:22:54,180 We have. I don't know if this counts as a 372 00:22:54,380 --> 00:22:55,780 one of the Princess, but I guess it does. 373 00:22:56,100 --> 00:23:00,860 Kim Jong 1 plays Geshi. He's like the coowner. 374 00:23:01,660 --> 00:23:03,980 Yeah, another Audrashi who've you seen everywhere. 375 00:23:03,980 --> 00:23:06,340 You're like, oh, it's that guy. He's a that guy. 376 00:23:06,420 --> 00:23:08,500 I feel for most people here in the West. 377 00:23:08,740 --> 00:23:14,340 We have Kim Dong Wook as Halim. He was recently in My Perfect 378 00:23:14,340 --> 00:23:16,140 Stranger. Yo. 379 00:23:16,180 --> 00:23:18,940 And he's doing delightfully deceitful. 380 00:23:19,300 --> 00:23:22,900 So he has two dramas airing and. He's doing. 381 00:23:23,020 --> 00:23:26,420 Well glow up. What A glow up, Glow up, glow 382 00:23:26,540 --> 00:23:29,620 up. I gotta say, the whole cast 383 00:23:29,780 --> 00:23:31,740 except RIP. But the whole. 384 00:23:31,820 --> 00:23:34,420 Cast, Yeah, the whole cast blow up. 385 00:23:35,140 --> 00:23:38,260 Blow up, Major, But let's continue. 386 00:23:38,300 --> 00:23:40,540 Yes. Then we have King Jewuk. 387 00:23:41,020 --> 00:23:43,580 Yes, that King Jewuk playing Songki. 388 00:23:45,660 --> 00:23:52,540 Yeah, I OK, so besides Isung Kyung throwing me for a loop 389 00:23:52,900 --> 00:23:55,210 this rewatch. I was. 390 00:23:55,650 --> 00:24:00,930 I was smitten with Kim Jouk in this because for those who don't 391 00:24:00,930 --> 00:24:05,370 know Kim Jouk, you might have seen him in her private life. 392 00:24:06,330 --> 00:24:10,370 Yes, he's the main guy in her private life, among other 393 00:24:10,370 --> 00:24:15,770 things. And him looking really young 394 00:24:15,770 --> 00:24:19,170 with the long hair. The long hair was it for me like 395 00:24:19,290 --> 00:24:21,130 I was? With the pony with the. 396 00:24:21,130 --> 00:24:27,030 Pony. You know what? 397 00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:30,470 We'll get to why I loved the show so much. 398 00:24:30,670 --> 00:24:32,110 But let's continue. OK. 399 00:24:32,110 --> 00:24:37,070 And then we. OK, then we have Eon plays 400 00:24:37,190 --> 00:24:41,750 Mignon and unfortunately this actor, why haven't we seen him 401 00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:45,550 anywhere else? Well, he died tragically in a 402 00:24:45,550 --> 00:24:49,510 motorcycle accident the very next year after coffee prints in 403 00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:51,750 2008. Right. 404 00:24:51,910 --> 00:24:54,390 I had no idea until very recently. 405 00:24:55,550 --> 00:24:58,030 I cried. I cried so much because it 406 00:24:58,030 --> 00:25:02,310 happened while it happened, while he was filming a drama. 407 00:25:02,310 --> 00:25:05,350 So he wasn't on his way back from work, I think. 408 00:25:06,190 --> 00:25:08,070 Something like that. Yeah. 409 00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:09,910 Yeah. And it was just a rock event. 410 00:25:10,790 --> 00:25:11,430 Yeah. Yeah. 411 00:25:11,470 --> 00:25:15,030 Yeah, Actually, Yeah. And it was in the middle of Gong 412 00:25:15,030 --> 00:25:19,150 Yu's enlistments because Gong Yu enlisted right after coffee 413 00:25:19,150 --> 00:25:22,080 prints. And there are pictures of him, 414 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,400 like being excused from the military to come to the funeral 415 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:32,640 and just the, oh, my baby, the devastation from the whole cast. 416 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,240 I felt that in my spirit. I still feel it. 417 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,520 I still feel it. And watching their reunion 418 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:44,040 episode where they get to talking about him and it starts. 419 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,920 Ringing. And I'm just like, oh. 420 00:25:49,010 --> 00:25:50,610 What a what a great guy. It's. 421 00:25:50,610 --> 00:25:56,290 Emotional and life cut too short for sure and RIP eon. 422 00:25:56,690 --> 00:26:00,250 Yeah, yeah. At least we have this thing to 423 00:26:00,250 --> 00:26:03,890 remember him by, the coffee prints where he is sort of like 424 00:26:03,890 --> 00:26:08,650 a bumbling fool and he becomes like a model or something at the 425 00:26:08,650 --> 00:26:11,210 end of the show. Yeah, at least it gets like a 426 00:26:11,210 --> 00:26:13,850 good ending. And then to wrap up, this is not 427 00:26:13,850 --> 00:26:16,410 a Prince. We have Kim Yung look playing 428 00:26:16,410 --> 00:26:21,270 Hangill's grandmother. She is everybody's grandmother, 429 00:26:21,350 --> 00:26:23,030 OK? She is. 430 00:26:23,350 --> 00:26:26,630 She put a lovely lady. I what a class act. 431 00:26:26,670 --> 00:26:29,390 I love her. I love following her on TikTok. 432 00:26:29,870 --> 00:26:35,070 All of her Tik toks are really weird and stupid and funny and I 433 00:26:35,070 --> 00:26:36,510 just love that she's even on there. 434 00:26:36,510 --> 00:26:41,150 And I think maybe a lot of people know her as the grandma 435 00:26:41,150 --> 00:26:43,990 from hometown Cha. Cha cha, Yeah. 436 00:26:45,820 --> 00:26:49,060 Yes, what a blessing. What a blessing to have her. 437 00:26:50,420 --> 00:26:54,660 And what a oh the her character and hometown Cha Cha Cha was 438 00:26:54,660 --> 00:27:00,580 really a gift to me because I'm like 01 day if she's no longer 439 00:27:00,580 --> 00:27:03,500 here. Just the words and the wisdom 440 00:27:03,540 --> 00:27:08,780 and all that, she said in Hom Cha ah what a gift. 441 00:27:09,100 --> 00:27:09,780 Beautiful song. Yeah. 442 00:27:10,660 --> 00:27:13,900 So workout. We come to the end of it, I 443 00:27:13,900 --> 00:27:15,730 think. I know how you feel. 444 00:27:15,730 --> 00:27:17,450 I think everybody knows how we feel about this show. 445 00:27:17,450 --> 00:27:22,730 But please talk to me about coffee prints, your unspoiled 446 00:27:22,890 --> 00:27:27,890 thoughts. Unspoiled, OK, I watched this 447 00:27:27,890 --> 00:27:33,130 like I said in October 2007, I was in a very emotional space of 448 00:27:33,650 --> 00:27:36,530 I want to find my place in the world, like who am I? 449 00:27:36,530 --> 00:27:39,370 And and I need people who believe in me. 450 00:27:39,370 --> 00:27:43,730 And it just it was just perfect. It was the perfect show to 451 00:27:43,730 --> 00:27:46,620 watch. Because it helped me process my 452 00:27:46,620 --> 00:27:49,500 emotions. It helped me understand 453 00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:54,380 friendships. It helped me even process how I 454 00:27:54,380 --> 00:27:57,340 was interacting with my parents at the time. 455 00:27:57,580 --> 00:28:03,660 Because I really did feel like both Hangyo and Gunchan, just 456 00:28:03,660 --> 00:28:06,420 with what was happening in my life at the time. 457 00:28:07,420 --> 00:28:12,700 And so it was like my outlets, because I was, I felt like. 458 00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:19,180 As a kid, I didn't have the space to explore my feelings 459 00:28:19,180 --> 00:28:23,780 with my parents because I'm from Ghana and this was just it. 460 00:28:23,780 --> 00:28:25,620 Everything I was seeing felt like it. 461 00:28:25,620 --> 00:28:31,220 So it's a fantastic show on friendship, on found family, on 462 00:28:31,220 --> 00:28:37,060 family, on purpose, on love. Yeah, you can't go wrong with 463 00:28:37,140 --> 00:28:40,000 coffee brands. I love that answer. 464 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,040 I don't think I can give a better answer than that because 465 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,560 when I watched coffee prints I was just like a punk and had not 466 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,880 been exposed to a lot of K dramas. 467 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:55,440 This was maybe in my first 50K dramas that I watched and I 468 00:28:55,440 --> 00:29:00,400 thought it was really good and I could totally understand why 469 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,600 this was making waves and why I was seeing this on top. 100 top 470 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,880 50, top 20 list that I was going through at the time trying to 471 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,000 find really good K dramas. You know, I don't know if people 472 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,640 realize this, but it's really was really hard to find credible 473 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,520 critique or rankings or ratings on K dramas. 474 00:29:21,810 --> 00:29:24,050 Back in the day, right? And I started way later than 475 00:29:24,050 --> 00:29:25,370 you. And I had the Internet at my 476 00:29:25,370 --> 00:29:27,690 disposal, and I was still like, where do I even start? 477 00:29:28,010 --> 00:29:30,570 How do I find these K dramas? Where do I watch like, all this 478 00:29:30,570 --> 00:29:32,450 stuff? Yeah, today you just go on 479 00:29:32,450 --> 00:29:35,690 TikTok and people someone tells you, like what to watch, how to 480 00:29:35,690 --> 00:29:38,650 watch it, whatever. Or you just go on Netflix. 481 00:29:38,650 --> 00:29:40,810 It's so easy. So it's so easy. 482 00:29:41,450 --> 00:29:47,590 Now, yeah, y'all don't know. You guys legitimately don't 483 00:29:47,590 --> 00:29:49,310 know. And so when I watch coffee 484 00:29:49,310 --> 00:29:52,590 Prints, I appreciated it immensely and I thought it was 485 00:29:52,590 --> 00:29:54,190 really good. I thought some of those scenes 486 00:29:54,190 --> 00:29:57,190 were like, like K drama crack moments. 487 00:29:57,190 --> 00:30:00,670 And I've said K drama crack a few times lately in different 488 00:30:00,670 --> 00:30:03,230 episodes because there are so many K drama crack moments and 489 00:30:03,230 --> 00:30:06,070 coffee prints, really iconic ones, that I still remember. 490 00:30:06,070 --> 00:30:08,870 They're ingrained in my memory. Yeah, yeah. 491 00:30:09,190 --> 00:30:13,110 But I think rewatching today, I'm struck by how. 492 00:30:14,290 --> 00:30:16,650 Woke it is, I guess. Thank you. 493 00:30:16,690 --> 00:30:21,250 Yeah, thank you. It's yo. 494 00:30:21,450 --> 00:30:26,770 This drama was ahead of its time compared to all the dramas 495 00:30:26,770 --> 00:30:31,370 during that time period. This drama was like, it talked 496 00:30:31,370 --> 00:30:36,050 about feminism. It talked about, you know, 497 00:30:36,050 --> 00:30:40,210 purpose and finding yourself and and really putting what you want 498 00:30:40,250 --> 00:30:44,640 ahead of love and. It's just it's just perfect. 499 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,520 I don't know anyone who doesn't like it. 500 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:48,960 I feel sorry for you, that's all. 501 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,120 I have this quote here from Rolling Stone, India that says 502 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,440 Coffee Prince was a cut above the rest and that it was the 503 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,160 determination of the cast which truly brought each character to 504 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,800 life. You made her character 505 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,160 believable both as a boy and a girl in love for the first time. 506 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,000 Goong's well balanced portrayal of the Moody Han Kyl made him 507 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,280 lovable throughout the show. His dilemma on his sexuality, 508 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,960 reactions leading to soul searching and the chemistry 509 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,440 between him and Yun is seamless. The show raised questions on 510 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,840 gender identity, social norms and notions around samesex 511 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,440 relationships, femininity, masculinity, which makes it more 512 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,160 suitable a show for everyone, even today. 513 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,720 Exactly. I'm standing ovation. 514 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,840 Yes, stand ovation for that paragraph from Rolling Stone 515 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,400 India, because I fully 100% agree. 516 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:40,760 That it covered a lot of ground. And I don't necessarily feel 517 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,920 like there was a ton of plot either. 518 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,480 We are just sitting with these feelings with these people all. 519 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,120 We were just going to the coffee shop every day like you know 520 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,000 what I'm saying? Exactly. 521 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:55,120 What was there to it, you know? It felt, you know what it felt 522 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,840 like? It felt like I was just getting 523 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:03,230 a vlog from my friends. Oh, I like that. 524 00:32:03,230 --> 00:32:06,350 Because it just, it just felt like daily life. 525 00:32:06,390 --> 00:32:10,350 It just felt even like the struggles they were having, the 526 00:32:10,390 --> 00:32:14,470 emotional struggles. It just really felt like I was 527 00:32:14,470 --> 00:32:17,030 watching a vlog with my friends on YouTube, Yeah. 528 00:32:18,190 --> 00:32:22,590 I appreciated the chemistry between Gongyu and Yunnan hey so 529 00:32:22,590 --> 00:32:24,880 much. This time around, I know. 530 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,840 I knew it was good the first time I watched coffee prints. 531 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,760 But on this watch, I was like, look, if it's some shows 532 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,760 nowadays currently airing shows, recent shows wish that they 533 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:40,840 could have welcome you and Yunnan had back in coffee, you 534 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,280 know what I'm saying? Absolutely. 535 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,280 Yeah. Yeah, I agree. 536 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:49,840 It's a very natural, sexually tense relationship that they 537 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,850 had. And a lot of give and take, push 538 00:32:52,850 --> 00:32:57,970 and pull, feelings, angst, all this stuff. 539 00:32:58,050 --> 00:33:00,770 And then on top of that, he's grappling with his sexual 540 00:33:00,770 --> 00:33:01,690 identity. Like, what? 541 00:33:02,130 --> 00:33:05,490 Is he gay now? What does that mean? 542 00:33:05,490 --> 00:33:08,890 How is he going to pursue her? I mean, when him, how he 543 00:33:08,890 --> 00:33:10,850 thought, he thought he was like, exactly. 544 00:33:11,090 --> 00:33:13,330 It was amazing. Amazing. 545 00:33:13,330 --> 00:33:17,690 And and I loved that he did not like. 546 00:33:17,690 --> 00:33:20,570 They did not air on the side of homophobia. 547 00:33:21,170 --> 00:33:25,090 And the reason I'm saying that is because I've heard the 548 00:33:25,090 --> 00:33:28,610 criticism that people are like, oh, it was homophobic. 549 00:33:28,770 --> 00:33:30,610 No, that's not fair. Not exactly. 550 00:33:30,610 --> 00:33:35,530 If you yeah, if you've been heterosexual all your life and 551 00:33:35,530 --> 00:33:41,370 then all of a sudden you are. Attracted to someone of the same 552 00:33:41,370 --> 00:33:45,410 sex, right. I can imagine that you start 553 00:33:45,410 --> 00:33:48,330 wondering. Yeah, you'll start thinking 554 00:33:48,330 --> 00:33:50,650 like, yo-yo, yo, what's going on with me? 555 00:33:50,650 --> 00:33:55,930 And I think he presented that so well in the drama, his struggle 556 00:33:55,930 --> 00:33:58,810 with it, right. And finally accepting. 557 00:33:59,170 --> 00:34:01,490 Oh, it's beautiful. It's very. 558 00:34:02,660 --> 00:34:06,780 I mean, in that sense, it's very realistic because if something 559 00:34:06,780 --> 00:34:09,580 like that happened to someone even today, I don't feel like it 560 00:34:09,580 --> 00:34:16,139 would be a an easy ask or an easy decision for someone today 561 00:34:16,139 --> 00:34:19,820 to go through that. Whether it's you've been gay all 562 00:34:19,820 --> 00:34:21,659 your life and all of a sudden you're attracted to someone of 563 00:34:21,659 --> 00:34:25,580 the opposite, Like whatever the case is, you got something, an 564 00:34:25,620 --> 00:34:28,980 outlier that's pulling at your heartstrings. 565 00:34:29,260 --> 00:34:33,489 How do you handle that? You know, and it's all about his 566 00:34:33,489 --> 00:34:36,810 identity and how he thought of how he thought of himself. 567 00:34:36,810 --> 00:34:39,210 And yes, how is his family going to take it? 568 00:34:39,210 --> 00:34:40,650 Yes. How is society going to take it? 569 00:34:40,650 --> 00:34:44,570 Do I overcome this in some? Do I? 570 00:34:44,850 --> 00:34:46,449 Do I go for it? You know what I'm saying? 571 00:34:47,010 --> 00:34:49,449 Or do I not? Do I shut it down? 572 00:34:49,449 --> 00:34:50,690 But how is that going to hurt me? 573 00:34:50,690 --> 00:34:53,610 It's literally a spiral for the man. 574 00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:58,360 And I loved how he played it because he it was a battle of 575 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,560 self loathing. But then he like loves her and 576 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,920 slash him and what is he going to do? 577 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:11,000 Like he can't live without her. So it's it's quite emotional and 578 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,120 believable for how kung you sort of acted it out. 579 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,600 And I think with as much respect as 2007 could afford it, even 580 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,320 more respect than even a struggle like this today I would 581 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,760 feel. Absolutely. 582 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,080 I was watching an interview with him maybe 2 weeks ago and the 583 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:33,360 interviewer, Jung Doyon, asked him what helped you become the 584 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,280 actor you are today? And he said Coffee Prince. 585 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,800 And then she's like, oh, if you were and if you were to love in 586 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,400 real life, which character would you like to follow? 587 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,920 And he said Choi and Gill like he had. 588 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,840 They're just. He loved so passionately. 589 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,400 Yeah. And even. 590 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,080 And he had so much courage. And that's what stood out to to 591 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:00,600 him. Yeah. 592 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,280 So it's like, oh, you get it, Boo. 593 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:04,560 He. Get it? 594 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:09,480 Yeah, he's really great. I loved seeing some of those 595 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,920 clips of them returning and watching the series all those 596 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,680 years later. I think the documentary aired a 597 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,720 couple of years ago or something. 598 00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:18,620 Yeah. Yeah. 599 00:36:18,780 --> 00:36:22,100 I think maybe on the 10th anniversary, I don't, I can't 600 00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:26,140 remember exactly, but they brought the whole cast back, 601 00:36:26,820 --> 00:36:28,020 actually. Maybe it was the 20th 602 00:36:28,020 --> 00:36:30,300 anniversary. No, no, that's stupid. 603 00:36:30,300 --> 00:36:32,740 Not the 20th anniversary, because I'm going to be 2027. 604 00:36:33,020 --> 00:36:37,420 Anyway, they brought everybody back and they had them watch 605 00:36:37,420 --> 00:36:41,020 certain scenes and they had little interviews with everybody 606 00:36:41,420 --> 00:36:45,050 and I loved how. There's like a soupy article 607 00:36:45,050 --> 00:36:47,290 that does a really good job of summarizing all of these little 608 00:36:47,290 --> 00:36:52,410 clips and the documentary itself and Kong you commented to, 609 00:36:52,410 --> 00:36:54,770 Yunnan said. I remember everything we did. 610 00:36:54,810 --> 00:36:59,650 We kissed a lot Since I've aged. I know since I've aged. 611 00:36:59,650 --> 00:37:01,410 I can talk about it without feeling shy. 612 00:37:01,410 --> 00:37:06,610 And Yunnan says I'm shy and was. I know she was like really 613 00:37:06,610 --> 00:37:10,010 bashful about it because honestly, they were all over 614 00:37:10,010 --> 00:37:13,720 each other in. The show and I would be 615 00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:18,400 completely mortified to return to it after the fact and watch 616 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,720 it wait. Wait, I don't think they had a 617 00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:25,800 lot of kisses, though. No, what I'm saying is well. 618 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,680 Compared a lot of intimacy. Yes, but and and then also I 619 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,840 feel like compared to more recent shows even that was a lot 620 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,920 of kissing because there's some shows that like you don't get 621 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,880 any kisses like some are strike from the same director. 622 00:37:40,490 --> 00:37:41,330 Yeah, yeah. No. 623 00:37:41,330 --> 00:37:44,290 Kissing. Yeah, so that's what I say. 624 00:37:44,890 --> 00:37:47,090 And then Yunnan. Hey, they were watching their 625 00:37:47,090 --> 00:37:48,890 own kissing. Yunnan. 626 00:37:48,890 --> 00:37:51,650 Hey like averted her eyes and said ohh, it's hot in here. 627 00:37:52,330 --> 00:37:55,530 Go, you go. You said Untan was a very 628 00:37:55,530 --> 00:37:58,050 motivated girl. She was not passive. 629 00:37:58,050 --> 00:38:00,730 I didn't know what on his hands were doing, but after watching 630 00:38:00,730 --> 00:38:03,210 the broadcast, our hands were pulling up my tshirt. 631 00:38:03,210 --> 00:38:05,490 I guess he never noticed that. She was like. 632 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,760 Clawing at him, It's great. It's so great. 633 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,120 She was into it. She was into that's why he said 634 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:19,080 she was motivated. I would be like cut, cut please 635 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,800 cut because I don't want you to see me blushing right now. 636 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:29,000 Let me see Isung Yun who is Aji? Said Chaihan Gil is gong. 637 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,680 You didn't suit him better than any other role. 638 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,400 However, Kong, you hesitated to join the production. 639 00:38:35,830 --> 00:38:38,470 Explaining It was a time when I had a bit of opposition against 640 00:38:38,470 --> 00:38:40,910 romantic comedies after becoming an actor. 641 00:38:40,910 --> 00:38:43,630 It was the first time I had experienced that puberty I 642 00:38:43,630 --> 00:38:46,110 wanted to grow while fulfilling my sense of achievement. 643 00:38:46,350 --> 00:38:49,950 The vibe around me was you have to do this you that's how you 644 00:38:49,950 --> 00:38:52,190 become a star, get advertisements and get main 645 00:38:52,190 --> 00:38:56,110 roles. And this is something that's 646 00:38:56,110 --> 00:39:00,470 even happening today, is that a lot of people are not taking 647 00:39:00,510 --> 00:39:05,550 melodrama, dramas, thrillers, these genres seriously. 648 00:39:06,990 --> 00:39:10,590 Stars get made with, like, romantic comments. 649 00:39:10,590 --> 00:39:16,150 Yeah, romance, right? Like, consider Ryan Gosling or 650 00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:19,950 Matthew McConaughey over here. It wasn't until they did The 651 00:39:19,950 --> 00:39:21,990 Notebook. It wasn't until they did you 652 00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:24,710 know how to this guy in 10 Days that they were really getting 653 00:39:25,150 --> 00:39:28,830 play. And they were hesitant to keep 654 00:39:28,830 --> 00:39:32,030 doing that because they were afraid of getting typecast, even 655 00:39:32,030 --> 00:39:35,390 though the money was good doing these romances right. 656 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:42,960 So I feel like Kong use got a had a valid hesitancy, right? 657 00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:49,320 He did, he did. But at the same time, we hadn't 658 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:54,160 gotten like a proper romance from him. 659 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,040 Oh yeah, no. Cuz when you say biscuit, 660 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,320 teacher? That's a very strange show. 661 00:40:01,220 --> 00:40:03,980 Because I remember watching it and I was like, I feel weird. 662 00:40:06,500 --> 00:40:11,300 It is a very strange show. And then he did one fine day, 663 00:40:11,580 --> 00:40:15,500 which was OK. It didn't have the same hype as 664 00:40:15,980 --> 00:40:20,380 coffee prints, but really, coffee prints really felt like 665 00:40:20,380 --> 00:40:22,940 the start of Gong Yu. It's. 666 00:40:22,940 --> 00:40:26,260 His notebook. It's his notebook, exactly. 667 00:40:26,260 --> 00:40:29,260 I haven't seen the notebook, but it's his notebook. 668 00:40:30,830 --> 00:40:35,270 I haven't seen the notebook. Not that I am a advocate for The 669 00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:39,350 Notebook, but I feel like everyone should see The Notebook 670 00:40:39,350 --> 00:40:41,150 at least once. OK, I don't care who you are, 671 00:40:41,150 --> 00:40:43,350 just watch The Notebook at least once you can get it and then 672 00:40:43,350 --> 00:40:47,430 move, move on with your life. So watch The Notebook Carol. 673 00:40:48,550 --> 00:40:51,910 Stay tuned for The Notebook Movie Corner on the Patreon 674 00:40:51,910 --> 00:40:56,470 Feed, because I don't know why, but I want to be there for when 675 00:40:56,470 --> 00:40:58,470 you when you give me your thoughts on the Notebook. 676 00:40:58,830 --> 00:41:00,310 Otherwise it'll just be in our TM's. 677 00:41:03,010 --> 00:41:07,890 So regarding the situation, PD Ian Jung explains some actors 678 00:41:07,890 --> 00:41:11,490 may feel apprehensive about idol turned actors, referring to 679 00:41:11,530 --> 00:41:14,010 Uninha. However, Kung you said I am the 680 00:41:14,010 --> 00:41:16,490 problem for myself. He said he wasn't in the 681 00:41:16,490 --> 00:41:20,370 position to discuss his costars acting and that made me think 682 00:41:20,490 --> 00:41:24,580 this person is cool. Because Golia didn't have an ego 683 00:41:24,580 --> 00:41:29,100 about working with Yunnan, who had just received a ton of Flack 684 00:41:29,340 --> 00:41:31,540 for her acting in Princess hours. 685 00:41:32,140 --> 00:41:36,780 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we see behind the scenes 686 00:41:36,780 --> 00:41:40,380 videos of Yunnan, hey working so hard. 687 00:41:40,420 --> 00:41:45,740 Oh my gosh, she worked so hard because of that Flack she was 688 00:41:45,740 --> 00:41:48,490 getting. And I was watching the wrap up 689 00:41:48,490 --> 00:41:52,930 party videos where she goes outside and she's just crying 690 00:41:52,930 --> 00:41:57,130 her eyes out and people are coming to her like you did such 691 00:41:57,130 --> 00:41:58,170 a good job. He did. 692 00:41:58,810 --> 00:42:02,330 Like we're so proud of you. It was it was a beautiful 693 00:42:02,330 --> 00:42:04,570 moment. Yeah, and Kong, you praised her. 694 00:42:04,570 --> 00:42:07,490 Even to this day, he maintains. The reason I was able to become 695 00:42:07,490 --> 00:42:10,530 Chaihan Kill was go on, Chan and Union. 696 00:42:10,530 --> 00:42:13,730 Hey, that's her character's name and then her real name Union. 697 00:42:13,730 --> 00:42:15,930 His passion made me feel embarrassed and helped me to 698 00:42:15,930 --> 00:42:17,470 grow. It made me wake up. 699 00:42:18,910 --> 00:42:23,990 Yes, which is so interesting because that's what I feel like. 700 00:42:23,990 --> 00:42:30,790 That's what her like, to see her work so hard as an idol actor 701 00:42:31,510 --> 00:42:34,750 because of that Flack. And then to see her character 702 00:42:35,150 --> 00:42:40,230 also work so hard. I could tell the moment he fell 703 00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:44,750 in love with her in the show and it was so early on. 704 00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:53,360 It was like, well, can I say. It or the show is really old, 705 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:58,160 2007. It is old spoiler alert, but he 706 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:03,320 fell in love with her when he went to her house and he sees 707 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:08,240 her schedule and he's like, Oh yes, so she does this and this 708 00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:12,880 and this and karate and and walnuts and and milk and he's 709 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,760 just like, wow, this person is. Living so passionately. 710 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,680 And that's when he starts falling for her. 711 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,560 Yeah, he starts appreciating her. 712 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,640 Yeah, he understands her a bit more after that. 713 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:26,800 Exactly. Yeah. 714 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,160 It's nice. He doesn't have the full 715 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,040 picture. No. 716 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,680 But he understands her. Yeah. 717 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:35,600 But seeing how her day is mapped out to the minute is really kind 718 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,150 of blew him. Yunnan Hey expressed her 719 00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:40,630 admiration for the drama, saying after appearing on coffee 720 00:43:40,630 --> 00:43:43,910 prints, I no longer heard the term idol turned actress. 721 00:43:43,910 --> 00:43:45,910 It's the project that made me into an actress. 722 00:43:45,910 --> 00:43:49,110 That's so. Beautiful I. 723 00:43:49,470 --> 00:43:53,430 Forget getting really emotional about it because I mean, knowing 724 00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:57,070 how her career turned out and how she struggled throughout her 725 00:43:57,070 --> 00:44:00,310 life and the different scandals and stuff, I feel like coffee 726 00:44:00,310 --> 00:44:04,470 prints has to be super special to her to have that. 727 00:44:05,470 --> 00:44:06,640 Yeah. Yeah. 728 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,600 Last thing I'll say about is about Kongyu his. 729 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,160 There's a quote from him. Coffee Prints is the project 730 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,280 that revived my dying passion. I think I was healed through the 731 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,400 drama. We became brighter and hotter 732 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,240 together. That's why I think it's that 733 00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:22,560 much harder to forget everyone. And that's what makes this 734 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,120 project that much more meaningful. 735 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,480 I'm sorry. Yeah. 736 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,880 So if you haven't watch Coffee Prints and you're listening to 737 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,560 this, please just watch Coffee Prints, OK? 738 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,320 It's great. It's one that's great. 739 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,800 I loved it. I mean, I don't know if I said 740 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,080 my thoughts, but yeah, I loved it. 741 00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:44,760 I think I have some qualms that we could talk about in this in 742 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:49,680 the spoiler section, certainly, But it is a top tier drama, one 743 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,080 of the best out there. It's why I watch K drama, you 744 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,240 know what I'm saying? It's for these kinds of dramas. 745 00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,960 Yeah, I agree. Same my number one drama. 746 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,240 It's not my number one, but it's up there. 747 00:45:04,070 --> 00:45:07,350 So fun facts really quick. Yunnan hey won Best Actress at 748 00:45:07,350 --> 00:45:11,950 the 44th Becksong Awards and so did Yun Jung, the director. 749 00:45:12,550 --> 00:45:15,350 She won Best New Director at the 44th Becksong Awards. 750 00:45:15,870 --> 00:45:18,230 This has spawned remakes. Of course. 751 00:45:18,230 --> 00:45:21,150 You've got remakes coming out of coffee prints coming out of 752 00:45:21,150 --> 00:45:25,390 Thailand, the Philippines, Malay, Malaysia and China as 753 00:45:25,390 --> 00:45:28,230 well. And then a couple of fun facts 754 00:45:28,230 --> 00:45:31,910 about the locations, because I feel like these are iconic 755 00:45:31,910 --> 00:45:33,550 locations. The coffee prints. 756 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:39,200 Like Store Coffee Shop was an old coffee shop in Hyundai which 757 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,840 was remodeled for the filming. The eponymous cafe was reopened 758 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,080 after filming concluded. Sorry, reopened after filming 759 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,400 concluded with The Wallflowers painting by Hanyuju and other 760 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,280 props from the drama on display. I do not know if it is still 761 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,440 there. It's still there. 762 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,720 I visited it in 2015. Oh my God. 763 00:46:01,540 --> 00:46:02,620 Tell me. About the coffee drinks. 764 00:46:03,820 --> 00:46:08,060 Oh my God. How I did my whole pilgrimage. 765 00:46:08,340 --> 00:46:12,380 To. To the coffee shop it was not 766 00:46:12,380 --> 00:46:13,740 good. Shut up. 767 00:46:13,740 --> 00:46:20,700 It was not good by that time yo by that time the the leer like 768 00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:22,820 the allure of it. Yes. 769 00:46:23,460 --> 00:46:27,660 It was gone and it wasn't well maintained. 770 00:46:28,230 --> 00:46:32,150 I am curious to see if they've brought it back up because you 771 00:46:32,150 --> 00:46:36,150 know, people are still watching the show, right, And want to 772 00:46:36,150 --> 00:46:39,470 visit, but holy yeah, at the time it wasn't that so. 773 00:46:39,670 --> 00:46:42,750 Eight years after the show, it was. 774 00:46:43,110 --> 00:46:45,350 No good. It wasn't good. 775 00:46:45,470 --> 00:46:47,670 It wasn't good. My gosh. 776 00:46:48,190 --> 00:46:51,110 I broke my heart, Oh my, but I was still so happy. 777 00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:57,070 OK, so wow, so the soul animation center at the foot of 778 00:46:57,070 --> 00:47:01,510 Namzan in Ye Jung Dong jungle. That is the rooftop that was 779 00:47:01,510 --> 00:47:04,350 used as the exterior terrace for a hung Gill's house. 780 00:47:04,670 --> 00:47:08,790 And you can see this rooftop garden thoroughly from the scene 781 00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:12,070 in episode 17. But I mean, there's so many 782 00:47:12,070 --> 00:47:16,310 scenes that are outside of his house, which is a beautiful 783 00:47:16,350 --> 00:47:19,450 terrace. Yo, let's talk about it. 784 00:47:19,770 --> 00:47:24,210 Because that was, what, 2007? That was going to be my first 785 00:47:24,210 --> 00:47:27,730 apt. I was just like, if I ever build 786 00:47:27,730 --> 00:47:30,650 something, it's going to be Chaihan Gill's APT. 787 00:47:31,210 --> 00:47:34,570 I sent you a floor plan of it that I drew. 788 00:47:34,930 --> 00:47:37,570 Like no one could tell me nothing. 789 00:47:37,970 --> 00:47:40,090 That was that was a beautiful apartment. 790 00:47:40,090 --> 00:47:44,130 What a great location. I was like, this is luxury. 791 00:47:44,370 --> 00:47:46,530 OK? It is beautiful. 792 00:47:46,810 --> 00:47:49,280 So. Those are some fun facts about 793 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,360 coffee prints. Would you care to rank the, I'm 794 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,760 sorry, rate the drama out of five Sojo bottles? 795 00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:00,520 Give me a face right now. You're like, please. 796 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:07,240 I'd rate it A5 Sojo bottles and I'll explain why as we go into. 797 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,560 The no problem. Spoilers and whatnot. 798 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,440 I think I'll give it a four, maybe 4 1/2. 799 00:48:13,370 --> 00:48:14,570 That's so much of. Bottles. 800 00:48:14,570 --> 00:48:16,090 Yeah. No, you'll find out why. 801 00:48:16,090 --> 00:48:18,010 You'll find out why. I don't want to ruin it because 802 00:48:18,010 --> 00:48:20,330 I still really believe in the show. 803 00:48:20,570 --> 00:48:22,530 You feel me? But yeah. 804 00:48:22,530 --> 00:48:26,170 So we're going to talk spoilers for coffee prints right after 805 00:48:26,170 --> 00:48:34,650 this. You want to come in? 806 00:48:34,970 --> 00:48:37,490 All right, we're back in the spoiler section. 807 00:48:37,490 --> 00:48:39,850 We're going to talk spoilers for coffee prints. 808 00:48:40,130 --> 00:48:45,450 Carol, where would you? Like to start because I don't 809 00:48:45,450 --> 00:48:49,610 have very good notes for the drama. 810 00:48:49,610 --> 00:48:52,850 I gotta be honest, I was just watching to watch basically. 811 00:48:53,130 --> 00:48:56,850 But if you want to, I told you I was gonna lean on you. 812 00:48:56,890 --> 00:48:59,330 Did you wanna talk about anything specific right now? 813 00:49:00,090 --> 00:49:06,170 Let's talk about the easy ones like the low hanging fruits that 814 00:49:06,450 --> 00:49:11,010 didn't have that much context I'd love to 1st talk about. 815 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:17,240 The relationship between Handgill and Hansen Ajashi, his 816 00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:17,720 cousin. OK. 817 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,120 OK. OK. 818 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,920 Do you want to do that first or are you just listing off some 819 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,080 topics that you want to? Cover. 820 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:25,440 I'll do it. Let's do that first. 821 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:32,240 OK, so him and his get so Konyu's character and his cousin 822 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:37,720 are in love with the same woman for the better part of a decade. 823 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:42,120 And the cousin was dating her for like 9 years before she 824 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:47,400 cheated on him and moved abroad. And the the whole show starts 825 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:52,280 with her coming back to Korea and he, the cousin is really 826 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,680 messed up about it. And then Kung Yu's just like 827 00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:02,760 hovering for a decade and I don't know how to fit. 828 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,210 This is icky. Okay. 829 00:50:05,210 --> 00:50:08,010 It is icky. It was so annoying for that. 830 00:50:08,370 --> 00:50:13,770 It was so annoying for that. Super annoying and we're coming 831 00:50:13,770 --> 00:50:17,570 from at it. From not a Korean perspective, I 832 00:50:17,610 --> 00:50:21,450 felt that Kung Yu's character was extremely inappropriate with 833 00:50:21,450 --> 00:50:23,450 her. You know what? 834 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,560 I actually don't think so from a K drama perspective. 835 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,240 Really. Because even thinking of like, 836 00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:34,840 the conservative nature of Korea, I was like, they are all 837 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,240 over each other. It's bizarre. 838 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,640 I'm only saying this because when you're looking at the 839 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:47,080 dramas of that time, it was very much we can be brothers, we can 840 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,920 love the same girl. Whoever wins, wins. 841 00:50:50,380 --> 00:50:52,860 It was very much like that. I just. 842 00:50:52,860 --> 00:50:58,420 Don't agree with that. I think it's weird. 843 00:50:58,460 --> 00:51:02,140 I think it's weird for sure. But it was a thing. 844 00:51:02,140 --> 00:51:04,980 And shows when you look at my lovely Kim Sam. 845 00:51:04,980 --> 00:51:12,580 Soon when you look at lovers in Paris, you had an uncle and a 846 00:51:12,580 --> 00:51:18,140 nephew who loved the same girl. When you look at Kane and Abel. 847 00:51:18,980 --> 00:51:21,940 So she stopped. It stop it. 848 00:51:22,900 --> 00:51:26,940 I'm No one has ever brought up Cain and Abel to me. 849 00:51:27,340 --> 00:51:30,820 I fucking love that drama. Girl, it's me. 850 00:51:30,820 --> 00:51:31,740 I'm gonna ring it up. Oh. 851 00:51:32,940 --> 00:51:35,340 My God, I have had so many people on this show. 852 00:51:35,340 --> 00:51:38,420 I can. Oh my God, no one has ever. 853 00:51:38,500 --> 00:51:40,460 You've watched Cain and Abel. We are. 854 00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:44,380 I've watched Cain and Abel. We are one of the only people, I 855 00:51:44,380 --> 00:51:45,580 feel like, who have watched that. 856 00:51:45,580 --> 00:51:49,940 It's so good, It's so good. It is so good. 857 00:51:51,780 --> 00:51:55,660 Oh my God, yeah, yeah, yeah. But OK, So to your point, yes, 858 00:51:55,660 --> 00:52:00,580 they love the same woman, but it wasn't as, I don't know, but it 859 00:52:00,580 --> 00:52:04,660 wasn't like this younger dude who was. 860 00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:09,740 Hanging around. This nuna and she was, she was 861 00:52:09,740 --> 00:52:14,060 very flirtatious back to him. Maybe it was because there was 862 00:52:14,060 --> 00:52:16,740 like that still tension between them. 863 00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:20,750 If she entertained his his like fences. 864 00:52:21,230 --> 00:52:26,230 Yes, she entertained it, but I think that's just who she was. 865 00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:28,630 Well, we have to talk about her. Who? 866 00:52:29,070 --> 00:52:32,950 Exactly. I got issues with her okay. 867 00:52:33,070 --> 00:52:37,910 I got major issues until until she has our conversation with 868 00:52:38,510 --> 00:52:42,070 with cousin I had major. Issues with her so but look so 869 00:52:42,070 --> 00:52:46,630 going back to the cousins so it happens twice to them. 870 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:52,800 Because Han Kyle is in love with you Ju second female lead and 871 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:57,480 then Han Song the cousin falls in love with Unchan. 872 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:04,000 So it's like a love square and the cousins love the same women. 873 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,440 Yeah, they just have a type. What can we say? 874 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,880 No. They're like wildly different 875 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:15,450 women and. I don't know what to say like 876 00:53:15,570 --> 00:53:17,970 this, I don't think. Would this fly today? 877 00:53:19,250 --> 00:53:20,970 I don't think it would fly today. 878 00:53:21,090 --> 00:53:25,970 I think that what you said about them being different women, 879 00:53:26,330 --> 00:53:32,370 Hanyu Chu was sort of like the ideal type of woman and artist, 880 00:53:32,370 --> 00:53:40,340 soft spoken, gentle a bit. Off standoffish but also warm. 881 00:53:40,340 --> 00:53:44,300 Like she kept you in. She had that exactly. 882 00:53:44,500 --> 00:53:51,860 Well, Yunnan hey was just loud and vibrant and yeah, open book 883 00:53:51,860 --> 00:53:57,020 and and something that made someone who made them really 884 00:53:57,020 --> 00:54:00,340 think about their lives and what they're doing and. 885 00:54:01,140 --> 00:54:04,020 Then I have a followup question. Yeah, go ahead. 886 00:54:04,420 --> 00:54:08,940 Do you feel like these ladies were relegated to being the 887 00:54:08,940 --> 00:54:14,980 Manic Pixie Dream Girl because? I don't. 888 00:54:15,420 --> 00:54:18,700 I mean keep going get like I'll just leave the question out 889 00:54:18,700 --> 00:54:28,860 there so you can ponder it, but. I don't think so, because Yuna 890 00:54:28,860 --> 00:54:32,980 Nahey had her own life, right? And her own. 891 00:54:34,030 --> 00:54:40,350 And she was very adamant and persistent in her arc that she 892 00:54:40,350 --> 00:54:44,030 was so adamant that she ends up getting his support. 893 00:54:44,470 --> 00:54:51,270 So yes, yes, she was there to help him grow, but at the same 894 00:54:51,270 --> 00:54:55,150 time, I feel like he was there to. 895 00:54:55,830 --> 00:55:00,190 Once she realized her dreams and goals and whatnot, he was there 896 00:55:00,190 --> 00:55:03,160 to support her too, and. Yeah. 897 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:09,800 And that was, to me, balance, because you can't just always be 898 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,240 the one taking. Yes, yes. 899 00:55:13,240 --> 00:55:16,160 They bring up that imbalance way later in the show because it 900 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:20,280 seems like we get a lot of their relationship. 901 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,960 Like they get together pretty early in the show, which I feel 902 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,640 like a lot of people might bulk at that. 903 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,840 They might be like, why did they get together so early in the 904 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,600 show? We, it feels like maybe there's 905 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:35,860 way less tension. And stakes throughout the last 906 00:55:35,860 --> 00:55:36,540 few. Episodes. 907 00:55:36,540 --> 00:55:39,020 What do you mean they got together early? 908 00:55:39,060 --> 00:55:42,500 Yeah, Han Kyl and UN Chan got They work together for a few 909 00:55:42,500 --> 00:55:44,820 episodes at the end versus they get together at the end of the 910 00:55:44,820 --> 00:55:45,780 show. Does that make sense? 911 00:55:46,500 --> 00:55:48,980 Oh, OK, they did get together. Yes. 912 00:55:49,260 --> 00:55:52,340 And episode. I'd say officially 12. 913 00:55:52,420 --> 00:55:56,540 Right, Yeah. So then we have a bunch of 914 00:55:56,540 --> 00:55:59,300 episodes left. Like there's 17 episodes, so. 915 00:55:59,870 --> 00:56:02,830 They're together for a while and we get to see them grow 916 00:56:02,830 --> 00:56:05,230 together. We get to see them, their 917 00:56:05,230 --> 00:56:10,190 relationship, right? And I don't, I don't necessarily 918 00:56:10,350 --> 00:56:12,630 like even though I brought it up like Mannepixie Dream Girl. 919 00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:16,830 I think thinking it through, you're absolutely right that 920 00:56:16,830 --> 00:56:21,150 they have sort of a balanced scenario here where he ends up 921 00:56:21,150 --> 00:56:26,310 supporting her dreams and he lets go of his right or he finds 922 00:56:26,350 --> 00:56:30,320 a new dream, so to speak. But I think with her 923 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:34,320 relationship with Aja, she is a bit of a manic Pixie dream girl. 924 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,640 She sort of, she sort of flips out of his life in and out. 925 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,920 She delivers milk, she plays with his dog, They have these 926 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:45,600 like park dates and he's like sort of enamored with her and 927 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,240 her outlook of life and her zest and her zeal and her youth. 928 00:56:49,240 --> 00:56:54,360 And for for him, it is a bit of a Manic Pixie Dream Girl 929 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:58,640 scenario with, but not by Han Gill's. 930 00:56:59,010 --> 00:57:00,770 Character or Kong use. Character. 931 00:57:02,450 --> 00:57:04,930 We have strayed a little from the cousins. 932 00:57:05,370 --> 00:57:09,090 No, but the Cousins, What did you specifically want to talk 933 00:57:09,090 --> 00:57:15,410 about with the Cousins? I absolutely loved how they 934 00:57:15,410 --> 00:57:17,450 spoke to each other. Oh, really? 935 00:57:17,570 --> 00:57:20,770 OK. There was, yes, because there 936 00:57:21,130 --> 00:57:26,960 there was a scene where. He's talking about his 937 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,640 frustrations with Han Yu Chu, the cousin. 938 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,080 Talking about his frustration with Han Yu Chu and Chohan Gil 939 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,000 is like, that's because you want to catch her. 940 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,320 You want to. Love her scene. 941 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,720 OK, that's early. That's pretty early. 942 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:46,040 Early. And that's when it that's when 943 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:50,440 the show became a different show for me, because I'd never seen 944 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:55,360 that before having that. Call in of saying you're being 945 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:59,600 an asshole, this is what you're doing, This is she is a person 946 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,600 of her own. And I was like, damn, OK. 947 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:08,600 That was in episode 4, and what the cousin says is that he can't 948 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,240 get used to her again. Yes. 949 00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,760 And Kongyu says that's because you're trying to tame her. 950 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:16,400 Her. Wildness. 951 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,720 Is her appeal. Exactly. 952 00:58:20,250 --> 00:58:22,530 And then he reads like a quick headline. 953 00:58:22,530 --> 00:58:25,290 The the cousin reads a headline in an art magazine that says she 954 00:58:25,290 --> 00:58:30,330 doesn't want to get married, which compounds the issue 955 00:58:30,450 --> 00:58:31,970 because he does want to get married. 956 00:58:34,090 --> 00:58:37,850 Tough. Tough to to like for that guy 957 00:58:37,850 --> 00:58:40,730 for their relationship, the second relationship with him in 958 00:58:40,730 --> 00:58:46,370 the second female lead. It's very interesting to see how 959 00:58:47,850 --> 00:58:52,110 Kongyu understands. Her better than he does. 960 00:58:52,150 --> 00:58:56,070 Yeah, yeah. And Kongyu is like, don't try to 961 00:58:56,070 --> 00:58:59,270 change her. That's because. 962 00:58:59,350 --> 00:59:01,230 He's feeling the same things, right? 963 00:59:03,030 --> 00:59:06,150 He's feeling the same things where he feels like everyone is 964 00:59:06,150 --> 00:59:09,390 trying to change him into something he doesn't want to be. 965 00:59:11,550 --> 00:59:17,150 Yeah, and maybe it's how do I put this. 966 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:22,720 I feel like this is too smart of a thing for men to actually 967 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:29,440 realize and say out loud. Yo, don't try to change her. 968 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:33,000 Her wildness is her appeal. Yes, she's sort of like a cat. 969 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:34,880 She comes and goes when she wants. 970 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:39,120 She has these flirtations. She has these, like, trysts now 971 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:40,880 and then. That's part of her. 972 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,960 That's why you like her, is that she's sort of unpredictable. 973 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,150 Yeah. Yeah, that's why I'm like the 974 00:59:48,150 --> 00:59:51,870 show was ahead of. It and I'm like, look, I there's 975 00:59:52,590 --> 00:59:57,070 no way that a man would say. That in real, no shade. 976 00:59:57,110 --> 01:00:02,870 But no shade to men. But I have never heard such a 977 01:00:02,870 --> 01:00:06,270 profound thing. Yeah, and Kong, you supposed to 978 01:00:06,270 --> 01:00:10,870 be 29 years old, right? Exactly with the show. 979 01:00:13,850 --> 01:00:16,810 No way in hell is a 29 year old coming through with that, like 980 01:00:16,810 --> 01:00:23,090 nugget for his 32 year old cousin to to get over his 981 01:00:23,410 --> 01:00:28,690 complex with his longstanding girlfriend who he wants to 982 01:00:28,690 --> 01:00:31,930 marry. And it's like, well, why do you 983 01:00:31,930 --> 01:00:33,930 even. Yeah, what do you think about 984 01:00:33,930 --> 01:00:35,210 that? I just threw like a little 985 01:00:35,210 --> 01:00:40,210 zinger in there because it's very much, it's very much giving 986 01:00:40,250 --> 01:00:42,130 throughout the show. It's very much giving. 987 01:00:42,540 --> 01:00:45,860 Man written by a woman. Yes, that's what I was just 988 01:00:45,860 --> 01:00:48,460 about to say. That's why the show is written 989 01:00:48,500 --> 01:00:53,060 by a woman, because they also have an opportunity for Hansung 990 01:00:53,060 --> 01:00:56,900 the cousin, to say something a nugget like that to Hanggill 991 01:00:57,300 --> 01:01:01,140 when Hanggill is like. What's wrong with paying my 992 01:01:01,140 --> 01:01:03,100 girls debt? Like, why is she mad at me? 993 01:01:03,420 --> 01:01:07,500 This is later in the show. He serves it back to Gongyu's 994 01:01:07,540 --> 01:01:09,220 character. That's right. 995 01:01:09,220 --> 01:01:13,180 And you see, and you see Gongyu's character be like, oh 996 01:01:13,180 --> 01:01:16,340 Oh my gosh, I've been so dumb. Of course you're right. 997 01:01:17,060 --> 01:01:20,140 And that's what I really appreciated about their 998 01:01:20,140 --> 01:01:24,940 friendship is they could challenge each other and the way 999 01:01:24,940 --> 01:01:29,020 they think. Without the other person bulking 1000 01:01:29,020 --> 01:01:32,500 and saying, oh, I'm going to do it my way, F you and and all of 1001 01:01:32,500 --> 01:01:36,940 that, so you could see that they respected each other and they 1002 01:01:36,940 --> 01:01:40,860 listened to each other and yeah, so I love their friendship. 1003 01:01:40,900 --> 01:01:46,900 I think what you're referring to is episode 16, and the cousin 1004 01:01:46,900 --> 01:01:49,820 says the moment a man makes a woman his, the man wants that 1005 01:01:49,820 --> 01:01:51,700 woman to live according to his wishes. 1006 01:01:53,110 --> 01:01:56,630 Which just because he's won her over, can he force her to do as 1007 01:01:56,630 --> 01:01:59,190 he wants. Exactly. 1008 01:01:59,510 --> 01:02:00,990 Only could be written by a woman. 1009 01:02:01,230 --> 01:02:05,430 There is no way in hell, but this was written by a man 1010 01:02:05,870 --> 01:02:08,870 thinking that a man would say this out loud. 1011 01:02:09,190 --> 01:02:12,550 It's a bit preachy. It's everything a woman would 1012 01:02:12,550 --> 01:02:15,070 want to hear. And us two women sitting here 1013 01:02:15,150 --> 01:02:18,350 talking about it, 110%, we're eating it up. 1014 01:02:18,350 --> 01:02:20,070 You could see it's eating it up right now. 1015 01:02:20,660 --> 01:02:26,540 So I mean, my criticism is, I guess, is it forced upon the 1016 01:02:26,540 --> 01:02:29,940 characters to say this or do you do you feel like it rings hollow 1017 01:02:30,780 --> 01:02:33,780 because it's sort of detached and unrealistic for a man to 1018 01:02:33,780 --> 01:02:36,700 muse about a woman's role in society? 1019 01:02:36,700 --> 01:02:41,580 Or do you feel like it works? I think it works, and I think it 1020 01:02:41,580 --> 01:02:47,980 works because Hanson's character is came off cousin. 1021 01:02:48,380 --> 01:02:54,980 Came off as such a wise a wiser person who is in tune with 1022 01:02:54,980 --> 01:02:58,380 people's emotions, not always his own. 1023 01:02:58,900 --> 01:03:01,620 So he definitely had anger issues. 1024 01:03:02,140 --> 01:03:08,900 Very, very typical. He had anger issues. 1025 01:03:08,900 --> 01:03:15,140 He had a lot of ego and pride. They both did, but to see them? 1026 01:03:15,980 --> 01:03:23,060 Grow past it and let go of their ego and be like yo, I just, I 1027 01:03:23,060 --> 01:03:26,460 just need you. I just want you because at the 1028 01:03:26,460 --> 01:03:32,300 end of the day you find that both of them are very private 1029 01:03:32,380 --> 01:03:36,060 about their relationships. It's just me and her, you hear 1030 01:03:36,060 --> 01:03:40,410 him many times saying. Oh, this is just what happens 1031 01:03:40,410 --> 01:03:43,250 between honey or Jew and me. It's like we've been going at 1032 01:03:43,250 --> 01:03:46,490 this for 10 years. We'll be all right, you know? 1033 01:03:47,330 --> 01:03:52,890 So yeah, we'll work it out. But that doesn't mean that they 1034 01:03:52,890 --> 01:03:57,450 will make stupid decisions. They won't make stupid 1035 01:03:57,450 --> 01:03:58,570 decisions. Sorry. 1036 01:03:58,970 --> 01:04:03,650 And they won't say bad things, but they have each other to draw 1037 01:04:03,650 --> 01:04:06,650 them in. I'm a little. 1038 01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:14,680 With Hengiel's character, I'm like, you're too wise because 1039 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,000 you don't have any friends you don't have. 1040 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:24,600 So Henkiel is like a shut in. Yeah, like your job is just you. 1041 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,680 Let's just talk about Henkiel first. 1042 01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:28,800 That's Gonggiu's character, right? 1043 01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:33,360 I don't. Believe this man exists, right? 1044 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,480 Obviously, like, man written by women and all that. 1045 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:39,480 But the way that they created this character, we first see him 1046 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:43,800 on the plane back to soul and he's flirting aggressively with 1047 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:47,280 his seat partner, playing cards with her, and he's like, 1048 01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,000 smiling. He's chumming it up with her. 1049 01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,440 And then when she's like, let me get your number, she wants to 1050 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,680 contact him and stay in touch. After he's like, why would we do 1051 01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,400 that? And, like, shut her down, Then 1052 01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,640 I'm like, Oh my God, bitches, so. 1053 01:05:01,300 --> 01:05:03,620 And then he's sort of mean in the first few episodes. 1054 01:05:04,020 --> 01:05:07,220 Yeah, right. And then you come to find out 1055 01:05:07,340 --> 01:05:10,340 that he's actually a little teddy bear inside and he's 1056 01:05:10,340 --> 01:05:14,340 really sweet and sort of like a golden retriever boyfriend, 1057 01:05:14,340 --> 01:05:16,980 which is all fine and good. Then you find out what he did in 1058 01:05:16,980 --> 01:05:19,980 New York for the past few years. I thought, oh, he's just romping 1059 01:05:19,980 --> 01:05:24,820 around in New York like eating Shay and doing whatever he wants 1060 01:05:24,900 --> 01:05:27,940 on his titles. Like dime, right? 1061 01:05:27,940 --> 01:05:29,460 Because he's rich. His family's rich. 1062 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:34,520 No, no, no, no. He was working freelance for a 1063 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:42,280 toy company for a few years, trying to get enough like clout 1064 01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:48,360 to actually get a job as a toy designer, working on like Legos, 1065 01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:50,280 it looked like. But they didn't say they were 1066 01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:51,760 Legos. They were some other company. 1067 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,080 Whatever. Does Lego know that they did 1068 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:57,880 that? And I was like, OK, and then 1069 01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,640 when she goes into the room finally, that's in his. 1070 01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,040 Penthouse apartment that he doesn't let her go in initially. 1071 01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:08,040 They go in and I'm like, what the actual fuck it is. 1072 01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:12,040 A room full of Legos and a giant. 1073 01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:16,080 What's it called? Like a play space that's like 1074 01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:21,440 immaculately detailed. It looks like a medieval like, 1075 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:23,800 yeah, space. It's one of those things that 1076 01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,640 people pay thousands and thousands of dollars to create a 1077 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,320 custom Dungeons and Dragons like. 1078 01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:31,200 Thing. You know what I'm saying? 1079 01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,400 Yeah. And I was like, this is really, 1080 01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:39,280 I did not expect that they would take it in this direction. 1081 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,640 And for some reason, I completely blanked blocked it 1082 01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:47,000 from my memory on the rewatch. So when the rewatch hit and I 1083 01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,600 was, I was watching this scene, I was like, you're joking, 1084 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,680 you're joking. This man is sitting in here 1085 01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:57,480 playing with toys by himself. Because. 1086 01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,540 Because he is an only child. So that's the first. 1087 01:07:00,540 --> 01:07:01,620 Thing No. Yeah, Yeah. 1088 01:07:02,780 --> 01:07:09,580 And he had issues with his parents, so with his dad to be 1089 01:07:09,580 --> 01:07:14,340 specific. So he's trying to make sense of 1090 01:07:14,340 --> 01:07:18,420 his world. I don't think it was strange 1091 01:07:18,420 --> 01:07:20,940 that he was playing Lego only because. 1092 01:07:21,550 --> 01:07:26,670 I felt like he had this facade for his family, whether it was 1093 01:07:26,670 --> 01:07:31,070 his grandma or his mom. He always had this playful, 1094 01:07:31,430 --> 01:07:37,430 outgoing facade and when he was by himself, he was more 1095 01:07:37,430 --> 01:07:40,790 reclusive. It was really Gon Chan's 1096 01:07:40,790 --> 01:07:46,270 character who made him talk more and and pushed his emotional 1097 01:07:46,350 --> 01:07:50,720 boundaries, but otherwise. When he's not around people, 1098 01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:55,320 he's just by himself and I think I get. 1099 01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:58,600 The recluse I get, I get that he doesn't have any friends. 1100 01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:02,680 I get that he has this issue with his dad. 1101 01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:04,200 I understand he's got daddy issues. 1102 01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:08,560 I understand he's not really close with his dad and that he 1103 01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,280 wanted to get away and do his own thing and find his own dream 1104 01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:14,880 and making toys was something he could do in his own. 1105 01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:17,800 Yeah, and. That's what he says later on in 1106 01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:19,370 the show. I get all that. 1107 01:08:19,490 --> 01:08:23,729 It's literally the shock of she's like, what's in the room 1108 01:08:23,729 --> 01:08:31,529 and they go in and it is this entire play space that is not 1109 01:08:31,529 --> 01:08:36,130 even I I was questioning the level of the play space because 1110 01:08:36,130 --> 01:08:40,529 I was like, OK, why is this entire game board that's the 1111 01:08:40,529 --> 01:08:43,649 size of the room on the floor. Why can't you put it on like a 1112 01:08:43,649 --> 01:08:47,370 custom table that's closer to, like, chair height? 1113 01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,520 That he can play and like, not be huddled over on the floor 1114 01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,880 with like some pillows and stuff for comfort. 1115 01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:59,680 I was like, I was like, look, I'm all for creating a space 1116 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:03,319 that's your own and having this hobby, having this passion, 1117 01:09:03,319 --> 01:09:06,880 whatever. I was like, he's rich, let's 1118 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,680 take it up a notch. Like, let's like level up. 1119 01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:14,840 But it wasn't about the setup. It was more so about he's still 1120 01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:18,910 a child. I know, I, you know, I agree 1121 01:09:18,910 --> 01:09:20,590 with you and I understand what you're saying. 1122 01:09:21,109 --> 01:09:26,189 Maybe it's just me that I'm like, if I was untan and I never 1123 01:09:26,189 --> 01:09:29,189 mind that I have nowhere near the same background as untan. 1124 01:09:29,189 --> 01:09:32,390 If I walked in and I saw this, I would have been like, first of 1125 01:09:32,390 --> 01:09:35,149 all, what the fuck? Second of all, get me a chair 1126 01:09:35,750 --> 01:09:40,270 and I want a cushion and I don't want to sit on the floor and I'm 1127 01:09:40,270 --> 01:09:43,550 going to order you a nice table to put this thing on because. 1128 01:09:44,069 --> 01:09:48,350 I am not getting scoliosis playing with you in this middle 1129 01:09:48,350 --> 01:09:51,710 room, OK? I feel like your expectations 1130 01:09:51,710 --> 01:09:56,270 are high for a bachelor who doesn't want to work. 1131 01:09:56,950 --> 01:10:00,190 Right. Who did not design his space 1132 01:10:00,190 --> 01:10:02,110 himself? His grandma did. 1133 01:10:02,190 --> 01:10:04,150 Like he just shows up. You got a point. 1134 01:10:04,350 --> 01:10:08,150 Guys, Yeah, guys keep going to guys places. 1135 01:10:09,030 --> 01:10:10,790 True. He does keep it pretty clean, so 1136 01:10:10,790 --> 01:10:13,830 I'm not far off from like, you know. 1137 01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:18,440 Maybe he's just an orderly person, but you'll go to a guy's 1138 01:10:18,440 --> 01:10:22,040 house and all he'll have is his computer channel. 1139 01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,400 Stop, stop. Because this is a running joke. 1140 01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,840 This is a running joke in just society, right? 1141 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:31,280 That they'll have, like, a mattress on the floor and a 1142 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,880 really nice game console and a TV with the wires still, like, 1143 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,000 sticking all over the place, and they'll be like, welcome. 1144 01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:43,950 And I'm like, no, no, no. Get your life in order. 1145 01:10:44,310 --> 01:10:49,910 Get a freaking bed frame. Exactly like I love that running 1146 01:10:49,910 --> 01:10:52,630 joke, though. I do I just. 1147 01:10:52,630 --> 01:10:56,750 You go to that stuff A. Few times so I know what I'm 1148 01:10:56,750 --> 01:10:58,790 saying. It's scary. 1149 01:10:59,030 --> 01:11:01,590 It's scary and he's very scary. He's not at that level, though. 1150 01:11:01,950 --> 01:11:04,590 He's not at that level. He's way above that level. 1151 01:11:05,370 --> 01:11:07,930 OK, He's got furniture. He's got food in the house. 1152 01:11:07,930 --> 01:11:10,410 He's got dining chairs. He cooks. 1153 01:11:10,690 --> 01:11:12,330 He cooks. OK, like, I'm. 1154 01:11:12,530 --> 01:11:14,490 I'm not far off from, like, coming in here and being like 1155 01:11:14,490 --> 01:11:17,290 this is bare minimum. Let's level up, OK? 1156 01:11:17,890 --> 01:11:21,330 Well, wasn't it the same in House of Cards? 1157 01:11:21,410 --> 01:11:23,570 Did you ever watch House? No, I never watched House of 1158 01:11:23,570 --> 01:11:28,370 Cards, The American or The The. American one. 1159 01:11:28,530 --> 01:11:34,800 The guy had a whole. What's what's the war in the war 1160 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,840 between the North and South in America? 1161 01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:38,240 I'm in Canada. Sorry. 1162 01:11:38,440 --> 01:11:41,160 Yeah, that one. I'm in Canada. 1163 01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:42,720 OK, Sorry, I'm saying. Civil War? 1164 01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:46,880 Civil War. Yeah, he had a whole toy setup 1165 01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:51,440 thing that he was always playing with and it was on the floor. 1166 01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:53,320 I can know. Can know. 1167 01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,920 No media. Oh my gosh, you're telling me 1168 01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,840 Kevin Spacey was on the floor? Yes. 1169 01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:01,840 Kevin Spacey. That's him. 1170 01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:04,360 Yeah. Let's not get into Kevin Spacey 1171 01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,680 at the moment, but OK. That's a word. 1172 01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:09,800 Sorry, we just cursed on the show. 1173 01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:17,560 We mentioned Kevin Spacey, so, OK, so that's how Kyle kung Yu's 1174 01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,240 character. He's got, he's got a lot going 1175 01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:25,960 on, but I would say that I didn't like the whole drama with 1176 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,440 his dad. Which I thought was very simple 1177 01:12:28,440 --> 01:12:30,360 to understand, and they complicated it because they were 1178 01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:35,560 like, he's an illegitimate child, that's what he believes. 1179 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:39,920 And that's not his real mom and his dad had an affair and all 1180 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:44,520 this stuff. Come to find out, he's just some 1181 01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,880 other kid. Like they had friends that fell 1182 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:50,600 in love and then he was born out of wedlock or so. 1183 01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:52,920 No, no, they were married. And then they got divorced. 1184 01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,800 And then his mom died in a car, in a car accident. 1185 01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:01,120 And then he was in an orphanage and the dad who moved to 1186 01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:05,200 Australia just like, fucked off and didn't care about his child. 1187 01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:09,800 And then he was adopted by his current family. 1188 01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:18,000 And I'm like, it's so annoying to me that they, yes, I found it 1189 01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:22,400 so annoying and that they were trying to derive drama out of 1190 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,680 it. And I was like, this is not 1191 01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,240 where the draw. This is not where the drama is 1192 01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:32,440 at, you know? It's lack of communication and 1193 01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:38,120 the good old, you know, guys who are stoic like the dad, never 1194 01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:42,040 actually saying anything. And I and I in part understood 1195 01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:45,280 him because this is the child of his first love. 1196 01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:49,720 He's not gonna every day be like, yo, this is my first love 1197 01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:54,010 when he's married this woman. And unfortunately. 1198 01:13:54,930 --> 01:13:57,010 Messed up. It's so messed up. 1199 01:13:57,010 --> 01:13:58,730 It's too messed. It is so messed up. 1200 01:13:59,010 --> 01:14:04,090 It is too messed up. But I think the mom character is 1201 01:14:04,090 --> 01:14:09,730 more loving than necessary. More loving than that. 1202 01:14:09,730 --> 01:14:15,250 Situation in that situation like how are you bringing your first 1203 01:14:15,250 --> 01:14:18,410 loves? You just can't get over her. 1204 01:14:18,650 --> 01:14:23,220 Your husband's first love. Had a child, died. 1205 01:14:24,180 --> 01:14:27,580 Now you're gonna raise your husband's first loves child. 1206 01:14:28,700 --> 01:14:30,340 Yeah, like. It's a lot. 1207 01:14:30,340 --> 01:14:31,660 Come on. Come on. 1208 01:14:31,740 --> 01:14:33,100 It's a lot. It's a stretch. 1209 01:14:33,180 --> 01:14:35,300 It's such a stretch. You see what I'm saying? 1210 01:14:35,300 --> 01:14:38,980 Like it's, yeah, as much as they wanted to and then they kept. 1211 01:14:39,020 --> 01:14:43,060 It felt like they just kept adding to the drama versus 1212 01:14:43,060 --> 01:14:45,020 taking away. Like I'm like to simplify. 1213 01:14:45,020 --> 01:14:46,740 He has daddy issues. We're done. 1214 01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:48,680 I don't think. I think it could have been 1215 01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:54,640 enough where the dad was just ill prepared to raise a child. 1216 01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:57,320 Maybe he has issues of his own and they had to work it out 1217 01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:02,320 versus he's raising his first loves child and the dad, the 1218 01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,960 biological dad coming back. I was like I don't give a shit 1219 01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:09,160 like it was not good. I did not appreciate the 1220 01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:13,120 biological dad. What a talk to me. 1221 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,590 Talk to me. I I did not appreciate that 1222 01:15:16,590 --> 01:15:19,670 scene because I'm just like, what do you want? 1223 01:15:19,990 --> 01:15:22,390 Why are you, why are you back here? 1224 01:15:22,390 --> 01:15:27,110 And I think they used it as a way to tell him the truth of 1225 01:15:27,110 --> 01:15:31,670 his, you know, origin story, but I didn't care for it. 1226 01:15:32,030 --> 01:15:33,990 And they're like, oh, you have a brother. 1227 01:15:33,990 --> 01:15:37,950 And I was just like, I don't, I don't care. 1228 01:15:37,990 --> 01:15:42,110 I don't care. And I don't think they it wasn't 1229 01:15:42,110 --> 01:15:45,830 that important because the same way he struggled with his 1230 01:15:46,750 --> 01:15:51,270 sexuality and and family and found family, you don't see him 1231 01:15:51,270 --> 01:15:55,590 struggle with this whole dad situation. 1232 01:15:56,030 --> 01:15:58,350 So it's not that important. It's not that important. 1233 01:15:59,310 --> 01:16:04,310 I do appreciate how going Chan supported him in it. 1234 01:16:04,390 --> 01:16:06,510 Oh, sure, sure. But. 1235 01:16:07,820 --> 01:16:09,500 Comma, I don't care. I don't care. 1236 01:16:09,500 --> 01:16:13,460 He didn't seem to mind. It was it was a lot for him, but 1237 01:16:13,460 --> 01:16:17,220 he seemed to take it in stride and just felt like a waste of 1238 01:16:17,220 --> 01:16:19,500 time. And the drama is sitting pretty 1239 01:16:19,500 --> 01:16:24,980 at 17 episodes. So to me, if this was made 1240 01:16:24,980 --> 01:16:27,260 today, this would be 12 episodes. 1241 01:16:28,060 --> 01:16:30,700 They would cut down so much of that crap. 1242 01:16:31,060 --> 01:16:34,500 They would cut down on the mom like Going Ton's mom. 1243 01:16:35,420 --> 01:16:38,300 And the neighborhood butcher who have like an on and off again 1244 01:16:38,300 --> 01:16:39,540 like every conversation they have. 1245 01:16:39,540 --> 01:16:41,260 I'm like it's the same conversation. 1246 01:16:41,420 --> 01:16:44,580 Literally the same conversation. Every time that he has a crush 1247 01:16:44,580 --> 01:16:47,220 on her he wants to marry her. Why isn't she giving him the 1248 01:16:47,220 --> 01:16:48,900 time of day? And it's just nothing 1249 01:16:48,900 --> 01:16:50,500 Conversations, you know what I'm saying? 1250 01:16:50,900 --> 01:16:55,300 That would have been cut the whole drama with conchants mean 1251 01:16:55,300 --> 01:17:00,000 little bratty sister and. And so I got. 1252 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,640 Oh my God. Entitled little bitch. 1253 01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,360 I hated her for so much of the show. 1254 01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:09,280 And then her with Mignon. I hated the way she treated. 1255 01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:12,160 Her. She treated him like shit, like 1256 01:17:12,440 --> 01:17:14,040 shit. So every time they were together 1257 01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:17,000 and she was demanding things and he was smitten over her and 1258 01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:18,840 would do anything she she wanted. 1259 01:17:19,440 --> 01:17:22,960 I was sick of it. It happened so much so if this 1260 01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:27,240 was 12 episodes made today, all of that would be cut down or 1261 01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:32,400 gone entirely. So many things would be taken 1262 01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:37,040 out, like the whole drama. Also I hated this of Kinjewuk's 1263 01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:43,120 character Sony Songki, him and the the Japanese lady or 1264 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:44,800 something that he fell in love with. 1265 01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,120 But she was married in an abusive relationship and then 1266 01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:50,640 she escaped to Korea and he followed her to Korea and he was 1267 01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:54,360 stalking her, his her. Son or something in the daycare. 1268 01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:55,400 And he was like, where do you live? 1269 01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:59,040 And I was like, what is this? What is this? 1270 01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:00,240 And then she packs up and leaves. 1271 01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:02,080 She kept warning him like stop coming by here. 1272 01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:06,200 I don't want to deal with you. And even if I like you a little 1273 01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:08,520 bit it's not that much. It's not that serious. 1274 01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:12,600 Why are you here exactly. And she just up and leaves 1275 01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,120 leaves like doesn't tell her, doesn't tell him where she's 1276 01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:21,470 going, cuz so Kim J looks drama. Another hindrance of the show. 1277 01:18:21,470 --> 01:18:23,070 I was skipping most of that shit. 1278 01:18:24,070 --> 01:18:27,990 I mean, the list goes on for different things that I don't 1279 01:18:27,990 --> 01:18:31,750 care about. Yeah, you know. 1280 01:18:32,150 --> 01:18:36,750 So that's the major qualm with the show for me, because we got 1281 01:18:36,750 --> 01:18:42,590 17 episodes and you're not just watching Kung, You and Yun and 1282 01:18:42,590 --> 01:18:45,390 hey, you're watching all of these characters and their 1283 01:18:45,390 --> 01:18:47,680 various. Idiosyncrasies. 1284 01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:51,640 And I'm like, I don't care. I don't. 1285 01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,560 And maybe that makes me a bad person or maybe it just makes it 1286 01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:58,680 really obvious on rewatch what I care and don't care about in 1287 01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,680 stories and what is the meat right. 1288 01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,160 I don't want to keep eating you know. 1289 01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:08,920 Breadsticks all episode. I want to fill up on the main 1290 01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:13,040 course, OK? And to me they're they were the 1291 01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:17,170 main course. OK, yeah, I agree. 1292 01:19:17,730 --> 01:19:19,450 I agree. I think. 1293 01:19:19,570 --> 01:19:21,290 I feel bad because I feel like we've gone to the part of the 1294 01:19:21,290 --> 01:19:24,330 episode where I'm just like shitting on this show. 1295 01:19:25,810 --> 01:19:31,890 But I, you know, I think. That because they had 17 1296 01:19:31,890 --> 01:19:35,610 episodes, they got to show a little bit about everybody's 1297 01:19:35,610 --> 01:19:37,250 life. Was that necessary? 1298 01:19:37,930 --> 01:19:41,050 I don't know. But does that make them 1299 01:19:41,210 --> 01:19:44,520 memorable at this time? Absolutely. 1300 01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:49,560 When you think of Kim J Woo, you do think of his character in 1301 01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:55,320 Coffee Prince. Each person had a distinct story 1302 01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:58,320 to them that you remember, right. 1303 01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:04,920 The cofounder of The Coffee Prince, I felt like his story 1304 01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:13,040 with his love life was there to to show and to like be a lesson. 1305 01:20:13,620 --> 01:20:19,540 To Cher, hang out and Sunky. I liked his love story and the 1306 01:20:19,540 --> 01:20:23,180 way that he told it was very well done because he does it on 1307 01:20:23,180 --> 01:20:27,540 the rooftop and this is after home use characters found out 1308 01:20:28,020 --> 01:20:30,820 the jig is up. Like he knows that Untine is a 1309 01:20:30,820 --> 01:20:32,620 is a girl and he's. Really. 1310 01:20:32,620 --> 01:20:36,780 Oh my gosh, that is That moment is one of my favorite lines in 1311 01:20:36,780 --> 01:20:41,620 the show when he says something along the lines of. 1312 01:20:42,460 --> 01:20:45,460 Yes, I know I'm angry. But when I think about it, can I 1313 01:20:45,460 --> 01:20:52,380 live without this person? That that yo perspective and 1314 01:20:52,380 --> 01:20:57,380 just forgiveness and letting it go so that you can move to the 1315 01:20:57,380 --> 01:21:01,180 next stage. I was like, Oh my God, that's 1316 01:21:01,180 --> 01:21:03,740 amazing. I thought it was a very good use 1317 01:21:03,740 --> 01:21:07,860 of that story. From what was it hometown? 1318 01:21:08,620 --> 01:21:12,540 The the other co-owner or something of the coffee prints. 1319 01:21:12,540 --> 01:21:17,900 He was very good at inserting some much needed perspective 1320 01:21:17,900 --> 01:21:20,300 throughout the show, but that scene was amazing for him. 1321 01:21:20,660 --> 01:21:23,700 I didn't like how they thought that was juicy enough to bring 1322 01:21:23,700 --> 01:21:27,940 around in the final episode where he meets that first love 1323 01:21:27,940 --> 01:21:31,940 again, the one who ditched him and was like really bad to him. 1324 01:21:32,480 --> 01:21:35,160 And she's married and has a kid and all this stuff. 1325 01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:36,280 And I'm like, we don't need this. 1326 01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:39,600 We do not need this. That was a standalone thing in 1327 01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:41,240 an earlier episode. We don't need it. 1328 01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:45,920 So that's what I mean by There was a lot of little things that 1329 01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:49,160 added up, and I just didn't like some of these side stories that 1330 01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,000 didn't need to be. Side stories that could have 1331 01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:54,760 just been. Oh really cool monologue instead 1332 01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:58,640 of like, oh, now we have to find out what happened to him in his 1333 01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:00,440 first level. Did we need to circle back on 1334 01:22:00,440 --> 01:22:01,120 that? No. 1335 01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,560 No we didn't. Know I agree. 1336 01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:11,920 Let me see. I also that character Hongge 1337 01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:16,840 Hongge Chic. That dude was disgusting. 1338 01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:19,720 I don't know how he lived. I don't know how he lived. 1339 01:22:22,210 --> 01:22:24,810 See, it made sense that he was on the floor. 1340 01:22:24,970 --> 01:22:30,210 Filth, because he was in episode one, he was like picking his 1341 01:22:30,210 --> 01:22:35,210 nose and I was like weird, ill and then he kept doing really 1342 01:22:35,210 --> 01:22:39,650 gross hygiene things. The towel that he used. 1343 01:22:39,650 --> 01:22:41,210 On no, no, stop, stop, stop something. 1344 01:22:42,890 --> 01:22:47,490 I was like this is nasty and then him picking like some gum 1345 01:22:47,490 --> 01:22:51,050 off the glass in coffee prints and then like. 1346 01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:55,920 Putting it in his mouth and stuff, he was disgusting. 1347 01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:59,360 A cesspool. A cesspool. 1348 01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:02,480 So that's a side note for that guy. 1349 01:23:02,480 --> 01:23:06,000 Because I was like, I don't think they would ever make such 1350 01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:11,240 a gross dude in a current drama. I don't know why they made this 1351 01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:17,960 guy so repulsive that I was not laughing. 1352 01:23:18,470 --> 01:23:20,550 But he was really good at his job, though. 1353 01:23:20,550 --> 01:23:21,270 True. True. 1354 01:23:21,270 --> 01:23:23,750 And then I couldn't tell if it was real or not because the way 1355 01:23:23,750 --> 01:23:28,310 they shot it, I was like, did he really just do that? 1356 01:23:28,310 --> 01:23:33,910 Like take a towel and like clean the tow cheese out from his feet 1357 01:23:33,910 --> 01:23:37,590 and then clean his teeth with the same towel? 1358 01:23:37,590 --> 01:23:41,590 The shot is unbroken, so I'm convinced that they made him do 1359 01:23:41,590 --> 01:23:45,070 all these nasty things over and over again for the take. 1360 01:23:46,610 --> 01:23:47,370 It's. Nasty. 1361 01:23:47,730 --> 01:23:49,490 Imagine. It's so good. 1362 01:23:49,570 --> 01:23:54,290 Yeah, it was. So let's talk really quick about 1363 01:23:54,290 --> 01:23:55,090 the meat. Cute. 1364 01:23:55,170 --> 01:23:58,730 And then we can talk about the whole tension of them falling in 1365 01:23:58,730 --> 01:24:00,730 love and some great scenes that we have. 1366 01:24:00,770 --> 01:24:05,530 OK, so she's really poor. She's living paycheck to 1367 01:24:05,530 --> 01:24:07,170 paycheck. She's a delivery driver. 1368 01:24:07,170 --> 01:24:10,090 She's a Taekwondo instructor. She's peeling chestnuts. 1369 01:24:10,090 --> 01:24:13,650 She's sewing eyes on little plushies. 1370 01:24:14,220 --> 01:24:19,220 And it's all menial work, and her mother is an overspender. 1371 01:24:19,220 --> 01:24:22,420 She's spending $100 on shoes that they can't afford. 1372 01:24:22,420 --> 01:24:26,260 It's really messed up. But she delivers food to Kong 1373 01:24:26,260 --> 01:24:32,100 Yu's penthouse apartment, and he is nearly naked. 1374 01:24:33,540 --> 01:24:38,460 He's just in a towel, and he's sitting on a on a couch, using a 1375 01:24:38,460 --> 01:24:43,300 smaller towel to wipe the shower, the water off of his. 1376 01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:50,360 Legs and she looks up his towel as he's drying himself and 1377 01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:56,280 definitely sees him naked. I had got I got questions 1378 01:24:56,280 --> 01:25:00,280 though, because why? First of all, he gets out of the 1379 01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:05,320 bathtub Because he's taking a bath full of soap and it's like 1380 01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:10,680 a bubble bath. He gets out, still covered in 1381 01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,570 soap sets. OK, that was and I was like. 1382 01:25:14,010 --> 01:25:18,210 He's a maniac. He's a maniac because he cuts 1383 01:25:18,210 --> 01:25:19,610 out of the shower. He's like on the phone or 1384 01:25:19,610 --> 01:25:22,930 something. And I was like, is he going to 1385 01:25:22,930 --> 01:25:25,490 get back in the bath? I was so confused. 1386 01:25:25,490 --> 01:25:27,690 And then he starts drying himself off, just puts a towel 1387 01:25:27,690 --> 01:25:31,770 on with soap still on his body. And I was like, somebody call 1388 01:25:31,770 --> 01:25:35,650 91, call 911 because he needs help. 1389 01:25:36,490 --> 01:25:39,650 That was uncalled for. I was like, who does that? 1390 01:25:41,180 --> 01:25:43,780 And then she shows up and he's like, Oh yeah, just leave the 1391 01:25:43,780 --> 01:25:48,780 food there at the front table. Yeah, And I'm like, who the hell 1392 01:25:49,180 --> 01:25:55,460 takes delivery in a towel still covered in soap sets? 1393 01:25:55,460 --> 01:25:58,100 And I will. Say. 1394 01:25:59,620 --> 01:26:02,500 It was so K drama. It was so K drama. 1395 01:26:03,060 --> 01:26:06,780 I don't think it was K drama, because sometimes it's crucial. 1396 01:26:07,180 --> 01:26:10,620 Listen, I was sick a couple of months ago. 1397 01:26:10,620 --> 01:26:12,540 What are you telling me? What are you telling me, Carol? 1398 01:26:13,180 --> 01:26:14,700 Let me just finish. Let me just finish. 1399 01:26:15,100 --> 01:26:17,340 I was sick. That's the context. 1400 01:26:17,340 --> 01:26:21,420 I was sick and I put it on my Instagram and this person I 1401 01:26:21,420 --> 01:26:26,260 hadn't worked with in like 4 years was like, hey, I have some 1402 01:26:26,260 --> 01:26:29,780 antibiotics, I will get you, I will bring it to you. 1403 01:26:29,780 --> 01:26:31,700 And she told me she'll come at 12. 1404 01:26:32,390 --> 01:26:34,870 So I'm in the shower, I'm washing my hair. 1405 01:26:34,950 --> 01:26:41,510 I have, I'm black, I have like 4C hair and she's, I'm washing 1406 01:26:41,510 --> 01:26:43,950 my hair and I get a text. Hey, I'm here. 1407 01:26:44,270 --> 01:26:48,110 She was 2 hours early and she was on her way to drop her 1408 01:26:48,110 --> 01:26:50,230 sister, her daughter off at a birthday party. 1409 01:26:50,230 --> 01:26:54,510 So I'm like, ooh, I got to go. So I just put on my shower cap, 1410 01:26:54,910 --> 01:26:59,670 I put on my robe, I ran downstairs and that was like 1411 01:26:59,750 --> 01:27:02,330 conditioner. All over me. 1412 01:27:02,930 --> 01:27:05,050 So you know what? It happens. 1413 01:27:05,090 --> 01:27:06,450 It happens. I was just like. 1414 01:27:07,730 --> 01:27:12,530 How do I put it? He No, he didn't Even he wasn't 1415 01:27:13,010 --> 01:27:14,970 care. He did not care because he was 1416 01:27:15,010 --> 01:27:18,850 already out of the back before she ever knocked on the door. 1417 01:27:19,610 --> 01:27:23,410 Yeah, he didn't care. OK, he's. 1418 01:27:23,530 --> 01:27:25,450 I was surprised billing that he was. 1419 01:27:25,570 --> 01:27:30,970 Billing because of what? First of all, he had a studio, 1420 01:27:30,970 --> 01:27:35,370 so it was just one big space. It was an extended bathroom, OK, 1421 01:27:35,850 --> 01:27:38,850 with a couch. So he was. 1422 01:27:38,850 --> 01:27:40,850 No. But then he's kind of tickled by 1423 01:27:40,850 --> 01:27:44,930 the fact that she get she looked at him or he because at this 1424 01:27:44,930 --> 01:27:47,410 point he thinks that delivery driver is a man. 1425 01:27:47,930 --> 01:27:49,970 He's like, oh, did he see something that he liked? 1426 01:27:50,010 --> 01:27:53,770 I think that was around the line that he said, yeah, and I was 1427 01:27:53,770 --> 01:28:00,690 like, this man is out of bounds. Out of bounds because that is, 1428 01:28:00,690 --> 01:28:03,810 so he's. Playful he's. 1429 01:28:03,810 --> 01:28:07,890 So open and. He's so open and playful. 1430 01:28:08,450 --> 01:28:12,650 Tickled by the fact that she she might have seen, so he might 1431 01:28:12,650 --> 01:28:17,610 have seen something I was like, Oh my God, I wouldn't like. 1432 01:28:18,330 --> 01:28:21,530 I don't know if this is just a man thing or what, Like if you 1433 01:28:21,530 --> 01:28:24,890 are one of these people that is OK with this scene and would be 1434 01:28:25,210 --> 01:28:30,860 the Kong Yu's character. Do this reaction, have this this 1435 01:28:30,860 --> 01:28:32,780 play out and you're perfectly fine with it. 1436 01:28:32,780 --> 01:28:35,740 Please talk to me because I want to know what kind of personality 1437 01:28:35,740 --> 01:28:40,060 you have and I don't know if it's just a personality thing. 1438 01:28:40,060 --> 01:28:44,460 I'd love to know her meet cute with the second male lead which 1439 01:28:44,460 --> 01:28:48,900 is our cousin is really good. I think this is the better me 1440 01:28:48,900 --> 01:28:53,300 cute to be quite honest with you because she I know she delivers 1441 01:28:53,300 --> 01:28:56,100 milk to his house every morning and. 1442 01:28:56,490 --> 01:28:59,850 She's on the other side of the gate of the gate at his house 1443 01:29:00,050 --> 01:29:05,930 and he has got a giant sheep dog named Terry, which I love the 1444 01:29:05,930 --> 01:29:11,090 name Terry for a dog. Terry is like a human name and 1445 01:29:11,650 --> 01:29:14,330 she's petting the dog, she's playing with the dog, she's 1446 01:29:14,450 --> 01:29:16,410 awooing the dog. She's like, oh, trying to get 1447 01:29:16,410 --> 01:29:21,130 the dog to howl with her. And it's so charming and. 1448 01:29:21,730 --> 01:29:25,490 She tells the dog, oh, like, get your owner, get your dad to come 1449 01:29:25,490 --> 01:29:28,090 out and, you know, have some fresh air or something. 1450 01:29:28,250 --> 01:29:32,250 And he hears her talking to the dog and being really good to the 1451 01:29:32,250 --> 01:29:34,850 dog. And she leaves and all he 1452 01:29:34,850 --> 01:29:37,890 catches is like a glimpse of her leaving on her bike. 1453 01:29:38,890 --> 01:29:42,450 Yeah, and I was like. This is a really good me. 1454 01:29:42,450 --> 01:29:44,250 Cute. It is. 1455 01:29:44,290 --> 01:29:48,570 And I think that it's especially fascinating because his 1456 01:29:48,570 --> 01:29:51,930 introduction to her is a girl, because he heard her voice 1457 01:29:53,130 --> 01:29:57,570 while. And Chan, let's talk about it 1458 01:29:57,570 --> 01:30:00,810 for a second. During those times, all the jobs 1459 01:30:00,810 --> 01:30:06,370 she was doing were for men. So because she passed as a guy, 1460 01:30:06,370 --> 01:30:12,560 she was able to get those jobs. And so you could see in their 1461 01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:18,440 head the, What is it? I don't want to say prejudice, 1462 01:30:18,440 --> 01:30:22,960 but they already have those linked images to yeah, oh, 1463 01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,880 delivery guy, oh, this guy, guy, guy. 1464 01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:30,320 And for him to see her as a woman first. 1465 01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:33,360 I was like, oh, this is so cute. This is perfect. 1466 01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:38,530 Yeah, it's really cute and. I love that later on she he 1467 01:30:38,530 --> 01:30:42,490 meets her outside the wine bar where she's like temping for a 1468 01:30:42,490 --> 01:30:45,410 night and she gets the gender of the dog wrong. 1469 01:30:47,050 --> 01:30:49,450 I thought this is such a great touch because she goes, she 1470 01:30:49,450 --> 01:30:53,050 thought it was a girl dog and he goes, oh it's a boy and she's 1471 01:30:53,050 --> 01:30:55,410 like, oh Dang, I thought it was like, I thought it was a girl 1472 01:30:55,490 --> 01:31:01,130 and I'm like, wow, wait wait a I guess inside joke I guess is 1473 01:31:02,130 --> 01:31:04,530 good. I like that little nice touch. 1474 01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:08,720 But then they enter here and Kong, Kong, you entered the 1475 01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:12,920 contract relationship. She plays his fake boyfriend. 1476 01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:17,120 He doesn't believe her when she gives her ID number and it has a 1477 01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:21,520 13 in it, which signifies that she's a female. 1478 01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:24,520 He's like no, no, no, give me your real ID number. 1479 01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:28,240 See. But that's what I mean by he 1480 01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:30,720 already had his preconceived notions. 1481 01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:34,600 I know of what a girl should look like and what a guy. 1482 01:31:35,100 --> 01:31:38,380 Looks. Like, I know it's crazy, but I 1483 01:31:38,380 --> 01:31:39,980 did. I thought I took a step back 1484 01:31:39,980 --> 01:31:42,580 when I think there's a moment where she's talking about 1485 01:31:42,580 --> 01:31:45,580 payment and she wants payment for every little thing of 1486 01:31:45,580 --> 01:31:48,020 skinship that he does to her on these blind dates. 1487 01:31:48,220 --> 01:31:52,780 So she's like, what does a handhold cost that should be 1488 01:31:52,780 --> 01:31:56,420 Cost this, this cost this. If you touch me here, cost this. 1489 01:31:56,740 --> 01:32:01,660 And then she stops short of the kissing price and he follows 1490 01:32:01,660 --> 01:32:03,620 that up with, what if I rape you? 1491 01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:08,240 And I was like what I was like. Did I read that wrong? 1492 01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:12,040 Wait, what? Yes, yes. 1493 01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:16,000 No, I gotta look that up this. Is episode 2 episode two. 1494 01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:20,960 He says that to her in a playful tone because she stopped short 1495 01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,400 of kissing. Then he I guess he thought this 1496 01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:26,160 would be funny if I follow this up and tease her about what if I 1497 01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:30,960 rape her and I was like ho ho. Wait, did that did he say sleep 1498 01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:32,720 with you or did he actually say rape? 1499 01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:37,030 The translation. On Vicki was rape. 1500 01:32:37,830 --> 01:32:39,790 Stop it. Yes. 1501 01:32:40,270 --> 01:32:42,590 OK, that just brought it down for me. 1502 01:32:42,950 --> 01:32:48,550 And then in that same episode, he parks his Mini Cooper in the 1503 01:32:48,550 --> 01:32:52,390 middle of two spaces, 2 parking spaces, like he parks on the 1504 01:32:52,390 --> 01:32:58,470 line and I was like red flag, red flag like. 1505 01:32:58,510 --> 01:33:01,070 If I don't, I don't know how to drive, so I'm just. 1506 01:33:01,270 --> 01:33:04,070 Like, Oh my God, Carol, you do not park. 1507 01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:09,040 In the middle of two spaces, OK, that's just not that. 1508 01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:12,200 That's asshole behavior. And so those two things taken 1509 01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:15,600 together, I was like, is there other stuff that I'm missing 1510 01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:18,680 that I don't remember happened that are super red flaggy for 1511 01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:21,680 this guy? Oh my gosh, now you're gonna 1512 01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:25,600 make me watch this again. I can't believe you didn't see 1513 01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:28,040 this. And then he manhandles her so 1514 01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:30,740 much throughout the show. He does. 1515 01:33:31,100 --> 01:33:35,020 Like, just yanking her around and oh, let's go talk and he 1516 01:33:35,020 --> 01:33:36,860 grabs her wrist and like, Yanks her out. 1517 01:33:36,860 --> 01:33:43,940 I'm like, this stuff is really annoying and sort of dated and 1518 01:33:44,180 --> 01:33:46,740 uncomfortable to watch. So all of those things were 1519 01:33:46,780 --> 01:33:48,700 early, right? Well, those two things. 1520 01:33:48,740 --> 01:33:50,340 And then the manhandling happened throughout. 1521 01:33:51,540 --> 01:33:54,660 I have an episode 4. This is my note. 1522 01:33:54,820 --> 01:34:00,300 I swear, all these guys are gay. This is my note because I said I 1523 01:34:00,380 --> 01:34:06,180 have like proceeds too, because at the first team dinner that 1524 01:34:06,180 --> 01:34:09,460 they have Mignon that unfortunately the actor that 1525 01:34:09,460 --> 01:34:15,380 died, that character gets drunk and kisses Jaewuk, Kim Jaewuk on 1526 01:34:15,380 --> 01:34:19,300 the back of his head. And then the other guy, Kim Dong 1527 01:34:19,340 --> 01:34:21,780 Wook, that guy, that's his real name in real life. 1528 01:34:22,340 --> 01:34:26,910 He sucks on his toe. And then he kisses Kongyu. 1529 01:34:27,310 --> 01:34:32,910 He kisses Kongyu on the head, smothers the old man Kim Jong 1530 01:34:33,030 --> 01:34:35,030 Tang one, that's the real actor's name. 1531 01:34:35,430 --> 01:34:41,710 And then he kisses Yunhe Yunhe on the lips. 1532 01:34:42,390 --> 01:34:45,750 And presumably all of these guys are straight and I'm like, 1533 01:34:46,270 --> 01:34:49,990 bullshit, bullshit. All these guys queer, OK? 1534 01:34:49,990 --> 01:34:52,030 Like, this is not. I mean. 1535 01:34:53,090 --> 01:34:55,610 What do you feel about the I feel like they're blending the 1536 01:34:56,890 --> 01:35:01,570 the as much as the show talks about explicitly like the 1537 01:35:02,090 --> 01:35:05,530 homosexuality. I feel like the show is just 1538 01:35:05,530 --> 01:35:10,290 gender bending and a fluid sexuality all around. 1539 01:35:11,010 --> 01:35:19,130 Yeah, I think it was. Let me see, 22,007. 1540 01:35:19,170 --> 01:35:21,850 I'm gonna age myself. OK, it's for a moment. 1541 01:35:21,850 --> 01:35:30,440 Don't worry about it. So please forgive me, Okay. 1542 01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:35,240 So 2007 was the first time I had heard the name the term 1543 01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:37,160 metrosexual. Really. 1544 01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:41,080 Yes, and I just had to look it up again. 1545 01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:45,240 The definition relating to or denoting men who live in urban 1546 01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:48,040 areas, enjoy shopping, fashion and similar interest 1547 01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:50,960 traditionally associated with women or gay men. 1548 01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:57,040 I think that there was, there seemed to be a lot of 1549 01:35:57,040 --> 01:36:02,160 representation of that in the show with with Sungi, the waffle 1550 01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:07,600 guy and and then just the way they spoke. 1551 01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:15,720 But I also think that without saying, I don't know, I don't 1552 01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:20,600 know how to explain it because. Growing up I would see guys like 1553 01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:23,800 hold hands and and do stupid shits. 1554 01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:28,680 OK. Which now we would put 1555 01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:30,360 definitions on. Uh huh. 1556 01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:34,640 Which we didn't back in the day. And you know what, maybe that's 1557 01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:37,920 my hang up is that I feel like there's definitions for things 1558 01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:42,440 now that happened throughout the show and they didn't put any 1559 01:36:42,440 --> 01:36:44,800 labels on anything throughout the show exactly. 1560 01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:46,960 Exactly. Labels. 1561 01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:53,360 That's, that's the word. So I didn't find it weird 1562 01:36:53,360 --> 01:37:00,480 because I also went to a boarding school for for three 1563 01:37:00,480 --> 01:37:02,440 years. So I was in a boarding school 1564 01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:07,320 and it was a mixed school, but you had separate quarters for 1565 01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:10,760 the guys and the girls, but you heard and you saw this shit all 1566 01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:14,220 the time. And so OK. 1567 01:37:14,460 --> 01:37:17,460 So you're a little desensitized. Yeah, yeah. 1568 01:37:17,460 --> 01:37:20,460 I wasn't desensitized, but OK, it was more so I didn't have a 1569 01:37:20,460 --> 01:37:22,660 label. It's normal. 1570 01:37:23,100 --> 01:37:25,740 Right, right. I don't. 1571 01:37:26,260 --> 01:37:28,900 I don't know what's right or wrong in this case to put a 1572 01:37:28,900 --> 01:37:31,340 label on it or to just leave it the way it is. 1573 01:37:31,980 --> 01:37:32,620 It is. What is? 1574 01:37:33,540 --> 01:37:38,220 I I I think it is what it is, is what I prefer, OK? 1575 01:37:38,500 --> 01:37:42,180 Because I think labeling has become a little too political. 1576 01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:49,440 Absolutely, yeah. Episode 4, they go play 1577 01:37:49,440 --> 01:37:58,800 basketball and shirtless. Kongyu will always be top tier 1578 01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:03,840 like K drama to me because they go, they like ditch work one day 1579 01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:05,560 because it's slow at the coffee prints. 1580 01:38:06,010 --> 01:38:08,490 And they go play basketball. Com you starts to chew them out, 1581 01:38:08,490 --> 01:38:10,930 starts to reprimand them and then he's like, I'll play you 1582 01:38:10,930 --> 01:38:12,810 for whatever out. I don't even know how they get 1583 01:38:12,810 --> 01:38:15,410 to the baseball. I'm sorry basketball. 1584 01:38:16,650 --> 01:38:21,570 But A+ plus scene that follows it up because after the 1585 01:38:21,570 --> 01:38:25,290 basketball they sort of they come together as a group right 1586 01:38:25,690 --> 01:38:27,530 of like you talk about found family earlier. 1587 01:38:27,530 --> 01:38:30,890 Now the guys are even closer after doing this like basketball 1588 01:38:30,890 --> 01:38:32,920 scene. I'll know how you And then hey 1589 01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:36,240 kept it together because they're like dripping in sweat. 1590 01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:41,000 And Kongyu's got his shirt, like wide open and I'm like, I can't 1591 01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:42,640 even handle this. And I'm sitting in an air 1592 01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:46,920 conditioned room in 2023, so I don't, I don't know how she was 1593 01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:51,460 there to do it. Because she had not come into 1594 01:38:51,580 --> 01:38:55,340 her like sexuality, like she's oh. 1595 01:38:55,380 --> 01:38:56,940 My God, we have to talk about that too. 1596 01:38:57,060 --> 01:38:58,940 Yeah. But anyway, so then they 1597 01:38:58,940 --> 01:39:03,580 followed the basketball scene up with the fountain scene, friends 1598 01:39:03,580 --> 01:39:08,340 style, and they make like a pack, like, oh, let's fight. 1599 01:39:08,380 --> 01:39:10,780 Fighting, fighting. We're going to do well at the 1600 01:39:10,780 --> 01:39:13,980 Coffee Prince. Let's make three times our 1601 01:39:13,980 --> 01:39:16,500 investment or whatever it was that going you promised the 1602 01:39:16,500 --> 01:39:19,830 grandmother. And they throw a coin in this 1603 01:39:19,830 --> 01:39:22,430 giant fountain and then they all jump in the fountain. 1604 01:39:23,150 --> 01:39:27,790 Yeah, it looks like so much fun, So refreshing. 1605 01:39:27,790 --> 01:39:29,950 I'm not even bothering with the fact that they're in a public 1606 01:39:29,950 --> 01:39:32,790 fountain romping around. I don't even care. 1607 01:39:32,790 --> 01:39:35,730 I'm like, this is top. Like, this is cinema. 1608 01:39:35,810 --> 01:39:39,330 You know what I'm saying? Like and the needle drops 1609 01:39:39,330 --> 01:39:42,090 throughout the show. I wasn't concerned at all with 1610 01:39:42,090 --> 01:39:45,650 the OSCI was concerned with the music that they had license, 1611 01:39:45,650 --> 01:39:48,890 just music that was not created for the show specifically. 1612 01:39:49,290 --> 01:39:52,290 And they had songs like This Will Be Everlasting Love from 1613 01:39:52,290 --> 01:39:55,370 Natalie Cole, which I'm like how much did they pay for that? 1614 01:39:55,610 --> 01:40:00,410 And then they had on the The Fountain scene, You and Me song 1615 01:40:00,410 --> 01:40:02,390 from the Wannadies. Yeah. 1616 01:40:02,750 --> 01:40:05,550 Oh my God, I love that song so much. 1617 01:40:06,030 --> 01:40:10,110 So really fun sequences that kind of stick in your brain. 1618 01:40:10,470 --> 01:40:14,390 They don't have much to do with the plot at all. 1619 01:40:14,390 --> 01:40:16,350 This is just like music video fodder. 1620 01:40:16,590 --> 01:40:20,110 But I love it. I love it. 1621 01:40:20,190 --> 01:40:24,230 Yeah. So I don't know if you had any 1622 01:40:24,230 --> 01:40:27,790 other scenes before we get to She turns into a girl for a 1623 01:40:27,790 --> 01:40:30,920 night. Yes, I loved when they went, 1624 01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:37,400 when they went to like the team event where Gongyu is selling 1625 01:40:37,440 --> 01:40:40,840 apples or something like. That, Oh yes, the orchard. 1626 01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:44,560 That whole, yeah, the orchard, that whole scene where they work 1627 01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:48,720 together, collect the apples and they go into the water and many 1628 01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:50,760 help is like, no, no, you're a girl. 1629 01:40:51,690 --> 01:40:55,410 He was so cute. He was so cute when he found out 1630 01:40:55,690 --> 01:40:58,810 she was a girl. So I loved that. 1631 01:40:59,210 --> 01:41:07,170 And I also loved when the guys were living together and just 1632 01:41:07,170 --> 01:41:10,210 how deplorable it. Was. 1633 01:41:11,290 --> 01:41:14,050 And how you I. Mean. 1634 01:41:14,090 --> 01:41:17,010 I thought it was worse than the like the parasite basement. 1635 01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:20,200 It was worse. I was like, this was worse, 1636 01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:22,120 Yeah. But you could see their 1637 01:41:22,120 --> 01:41:28,240 personalities in that space with Sungi like being super clean and 1638 01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:30,840 he had his like mosquito coil he's. 1639 01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:37,040 Yes, it's good it. Was it was good? 1640 01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:41,680 Yeah. She gets a makeover K drama 1641 01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:44,280 trope. She gets a makeover for the art 1642 01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:47,240 exhibition that she goes to with Aja she cousin. 1643 01:41:48,390 --> 01:41:51,390 I forgot how horrendous she looks when she leaves the house 1644 01:41:51,390 --> 01:41:52,030 and he picks. Her up. 1645 01:41:52,070 --> 01:41:55,190 Oh my gosh, I wipe that out of my memory. 1646 01:41:55,990 --> 01:41:59,790 I don't know how they let her leave the house like that. 1647 01:42:00,550 --> 01:42:04,270 Yo, they don't like her. Like the mom, let me just say 1648 01:42:04,270 --> 01:42:07,270 because of the way she left the house to go to the art 1649 01:42:07,270 --> 01:42:10,390 exhibition, I think her mother and her little sister hate her. 1650 01:42:12,270 --> 01:42:16,470 There is no way that they should have let her step foot looking 1651 01:42:16,470 --> 01:42:17,870 like that. She looked like a clown. 1652 01:42:18,770 --> 01:42:21,010 She. Did she literally look like a 1653 01:42:21,050 --> 01:42:24,010 clown? And so he takes her to get 1654 01:42:24,330 --> 01:42:27,250 spruced up and get a change of clothes and everything, and she 1655 01:42:27,250 --> 01:42:32,210 comes down looking amazing. And I love she falls down the 1656 01:42:32,210 --> 01:42:35,010 stairs, not fully. She just like, skips a step and 1657 01:42:35,010 --> 01:42:37,730 he catches her from falling. And it's so she's all that. 1658 01:42:37,730 --> 01:42:43,410 It hurts like, I'm like, Oh my God, a dream. 1659 01:42:43,730 --> 01:42:44,930 Sequence. Yeah. 1660 01:42:45,810 --> 01:42:48,570 It's it's good. And then obviously hijinks 1661 01:42:48,570 --> 01:42:52,570 because Kongyu ends up attending the art exhibition instead of, 1662 01:42:52,930 --> 01:42:55,250 you know, her just being there Incognito. 1663 01:42:55,290 --> 01:42:58,770 She's now trying to avoid Kongyu and all stuff. 1664 01:42:58,890 --> 01:43:03,570 Yeah, that's great. And he doesn't recognize her at 1665 01:43:03,610 --> 01:43:08,810 all. I like at all, because that was 1666 01:43:08,810 --> 01:43:11,690 a bit unbelievable for. Yeah, yeah. 1667 01:43:14,270 --> 01:43:20,870 But I'm just like, wow are we? So, like, how strongly do we 1668 01:43:20,870 --> 01:43:23,870 believe what we believe and do not challenge our thoughts? 1669 01:43:24,110 --> 01:43:25,790 I don't. You're trying about suspension 1670 01:43:25,790 --> 01:43:27,790 of disbelief? Or are you just talking about? 1671 01:43:28,190 --> 01:43:29,790 For him. Oh, for him. 1672 01:43:29,950 --> 01:43:33,430 OK. For him and even for me, I'm 1673 01:43:33,430 --> 01:43:38,030 just like, OK, I'm seeing A and that's A and now you're telling 1674 01:43:38,030 --> 01:43:41,350 me it's B and I'm like, no, that's A like. 1675 01:43:42,590 --> 01:43:48,350 Come on Guy, open your eyes. Yeah, he's a blind. 1676 01:43:48,670 --> 01:43:55,590 Just completely blind to her. Yeah, In episode six, he is 1677 01:43:55,590 --> 01:43:57,430 already. I mean, he already likes her. 1678 01:43:57,430 --> 01:44:01,790 He's already bothering her at work and just like a school kid 1679 01:44:01,790 --> 01:44:03,710 with a crush, he's like ordering her around. 1680 01:44:03,710 --> 01:44:06,750 She's getting frustrated. She blows her bangs up. 1681 01:44:07,850 --> 01:44:10,850 Like she does like thing with her bangs and he's like, why 1682 01:44:10,850 --> 01:44:12,570 don't you stop doing that? I need you to stop. 1683 01:44:12,570 --> 01:44:16,850 He's so hot and bothered he's. So hot and bothered. 1684 01:44:16,850 --> 01:44:22,290 And he aggressively drags her up to the rooftop And he got like, 1685 01:44:22,730 --> 01:44:25,010 he's so hot and bothered. He looked like he got a fever. 1686 01:44:25,010 --> 01:44:29,530 He just like, can I hug you? And she's super uncomfortable 1687 01:44:29,810 --> 01:44:32,410 And she backs away from him and he says it's just like when they 1688 01:44:32,410 --> 01:44:36,140 were doing the blind days. Come on, he doesn't bite, but he 1689 01:44:36,140 --> 01:44:39,540 doesn't wait for her consent. He just grabs her and pulls her 1690 01:44:39,540 --> 01:44:43,700 in for the hug. And I was like, okay, not not my 1691 01:44:43,700 --> 01:44:47,660 favorite, but he's doing it to gauge his physical reaction to 1692 01:44:47,660 --> 01:44:49,820 the hug to see if he's attracted to her. 1693 01:44:50,380 --> 01:44:53,620 Because earlier he had hugged you do the second female lead 1694 01:44:53,620 --> 01:44:56,180 and was like, oh thank God I'm still straight because I guess 1695 01:44:56,180 --> 01:45:00,820 he felt something so he does it to her on time. 1696 01:45:01,370 --> 01:45:04,570 And I love their reactions to after the hug. 1697 01:45:05,450 --> 01:45:08,490 Yeah. Because she's like like Shook 1698 01:45:08,490 --> 01:45:13,690 and grabbing the wall and shit to keep keep up and he does the 1699 01:45:13,690 --> 01:45:15,930 same and he's just like clutching his heart like, oh 1700 01:45:15,930 --> 01:45:20,170 shit, you know? I think that was the first time 1701 01:45:20,170 --> 01:45:28,650 for her to sort of recognize that she feels different and. 1702 01:45:29,350 --> 01:45:33,030 And the feelings may be strong. Uhhuh. 1703 01:45:34,190 --> 01:45:37,750 Uhhuh. Grandma gets sick with stage 4 1704 01:45:37,750 --> 01:45:44,270 stomach cancer around episode 7, and they did absolutely nothing 1705 01:45:44,270 --> 01:45:50,150 with the stomach cancer with like that was just nothing. 1706 01:45:50,150 --> 01:45:53,150 Almost like given that the elderly character would get 1707 01:45:53,150 --> 01:45:54,430 sick. Yeah. 1708 01:45:55,230 --> 01:45:58,150 So I didn't like that. I feel like that was half baked. 1709 01:45:59,380 --> 01:46:02,300 And OK. Do you have thoughts on that? 1710 01:46:03,540 --> 01:46:05,700 I'm just. Thinking I'm just thinking about 1711 01:46:05,700 --> 01:46:10,060 the sequences of that, and I think they put it in there to 1712 01:46:10,060 --> 01:46:16,380 show just how much Hanggill adores the women and his family. 1713 01:46:17,780 --> 01:46:24,220 Because for Grandma and Mom, that guy would burn the earth 1714 01:46:24,300 --> 01:46:29,590 for those two women. So to to get to see him obsess 1715 01:46:29,630 --> 01:46:36,190 over her and his mom and just be like an adorable baby for them 1716 01:46:37,790 --> 01:46:41,430 and for me, I'm just like, OK, yes, he loves them, but is he 1717 01:46:41,430 --> 01:46:45,230 also overcompensating because his dad is lacking? 1718 01:46:45,870 --> 01:46:48,750 Oh, I got nothing to add to that. 1719 01:46:48,750 --> 01:46:53,630 We're going to move on because I was really Episode 8. 1720 01:46:54,550 --> 01:46:59,330 She gets a kiss. She gets kissed by the cousin at 1721 01:46:59,330 --> 01:47:02,730 his house. Ohh another iffy area. 1722 01:47:02,730 --> 01:47:03,330 Iffy. Yeah. 1723 01:47:03,330 --> 01:47:04,970 Iffy. Iffy. 1724 01:47:05,970 --> 01:47:09,250 I did not. It's very surprising. 1725 01:47:09,250 --> 01:47:11,290 And I could see why. She just ran out the house. 1726 01:47:11,970 --> 01:47:14,490 Yeah, because there was no provocation. 1727 01:47:14,490 --> 01:47:17,530 He just, like, came up on her. Yeah. 1728 01:47:17,610 --> 01:47:19,090 Yeah. And, you know, obviously no 1729 01:47:19,090 --> 01:47:22,610 consent or anything. And I was like, then later on in 1730 01:47:22,610 --> 01:47:26,290 the episode, she's over at Komu's house. 1731 01:47:27,700 --> 01:47:31,180 And he says you're gay, right? I'm not. 1732 01:47:31,540 --> 01:47:37,700 So stop trying to seduce me. And I'm like, Oh my God. 1733 01:47:39,140 --> 01:47:44,660 Brah, it's not that simple. I was like babe and then he. 1734 01:47:44,940 --> 01:47:47,580 Borrowed the notebook like it's not that simple, it's. 1735 01:47:47,940 --> 01:47:51,180 Not that simple. And then he gums up with that 1736 01:47:51,180 --> 01:47:53,540 sworn brothers thing with a young name. 1737 01:47:54,480 --> 01:47:57,880 Thing and then they get the he gets their ears pierced as like 1738 01:47:57,880 --> 01:48:00,960 their sworn brothers oath. I don't even know. 1739 01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:02,960 OK, OK. OK. 1740 01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:07,320 But that brings up what we just, we talked about earlier about 1741 01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:12,120 you know not having labels and all these things being normal 1742 01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:19,960 and so he's trying to like find normal for him and and. 1743 01:48:20,420 --> 01:48:25,100 Make it seem less without actually saying or accepting 1744 01:48:25,100 --> 01:48:33,700 that he has stronger feelings. Then I think this is I have 1745 01:48:33,700 --> 01:48:36,660 notes for episodes 9 through 12, but the night at the beach. 1746 01:48:38,540 --> 01:48:42,260 Get out, get out. This is the Oh my God, this is K 1747 01:48:42,260 --> 01:48:44,180 drama crack. This is the crackiest of crack. 1748 01:48:46,410 --> 01:48:48,490 She there's like walking on the beach and she sort of go and 1749 01:48:48,490 --> 01:48:50,050 saying like, what do you like about me? 1750 01:48:50,050 --> 01:48:51,970 Which part of me do you find pretty? 1751 01:48:52,410 --> 01:48:56,890 Of course I like you. dot, dot, dot as a sworn brother and she 1752 01:48:56,890 --> 01:49:02,530 is really testing this man, OK. I thought that was just kind of 1753 01:49:02,530 --> 01:49:07,210 rude of her, I thought because she knows what he thinks of her 1754 01:49:07,810 --> 01:49:12,090 and she's still really flirty, like cannot keep it together. 1755 01:49:12,770 --> 01:49:16,730 Does she know though? Because you know she did. 1756 01:49:17,130 --> 01:49:22,610 She does say that I never like how can you look at me and say 1757 01:49:22,650 --> 01:49:25,130 you like me? She she had some major. 1758 01:49:25,130 --> 01:49:27,090 No, girl, we'll get to it because this is part of these 1759 01:49:27,090 --> 01:49:31,450 sets of episodes, because I feel like it's we have to talk about 1760 01:49:31,450 --> 01:49:36,410 the whole in time being like a doe idea and headlights through 1761 01:49:36,410 --> 01:49:39,810 the whole thing. But he holds her hand. 1762 01:49:41,020 --> 01:49:43,140 And intertwines the hands as lovers do. 1763 01:49:43,460 --> 01:49:45,660 And then they watched. She's like, let's stay and watch 1764 01:49:45,660 --> 01:49:48,220 the sunrise. And they spend the night out on 1765 01:49:48,220 --> 01:49:53,420 the beach and she puts her head on his lap like she saw him do 1766 01:49:53,420 --> 01:49:56,900 with you do the second female. She was definitely testing him, 1767 01:49:57,140 --> 01:50:00,740 testing him. And then right, I'm like, girl 1768 01:50:00,780 --> 01:50:04,740 is really testy. So then he gives her his 1769 01:50:04,740 --> 01:50:06,740 cardigan. Real cute because it's, I guess, 1770 01:50:06,740 --> 01:50:08,540 chilly up on the beach. I live in Florida. 1771 01:50:08,540 --> 01:50:12,510 We don't got that. And then it's hot, like, take we 1772 01:50:12,510 --> 01:50:19,510 have no cardigans at the beach. So as she's sleeping, he spoons 1773 01:50:19,510 --> 01:50:23,710 her spoons with her. And I love this scene. 1774 01:50:23,710 --> 01:50:29,110 It's very complicated. Like complicated, right? 1775 01:50:29,110 --> 01:50:34,710 So he's cupping her hand in his and he's just crying as he 1776 01:50:34,710 --> 01:50:37,510 kisses her head and he looks just terrified. 1777 01:50:38,230 --> 01:50:41,870 At the realization that he loves a man and he's trying to 1778 01:50:41,870 --> 01:50:44,950 reconcile this feeling, he goes missing for three days after the 1779 01:50:44,950 --> 01:50:49,870 scene because he's just wrecked. He's spiraling. 1780 01:50:50,550 --> 01:50:53,790 He has having an identity crisis, if you even have a 1781 01:50:53,790 --> 01:50:57,590 mirror scene at his place after where he's like puts the shaving 1782 01:50:57,590 --> 01:51:00,110 cream on his face and he's looking at himself in the mirror 1783 01:51:00,110 --> 01:51:02,310 and he's just like, smears the mirror with shaving cream. 1784 01:51:03,150 --> 01:51:04,790 He doesn't even want to look at himself. 1785 01:51:05,980 --> 01:51:08,220 And. He struggled and I felt. 1786 01:51:08,300 --> 01:51:11,540 Struggling. Yeah, Yeah. 1787 01:51:12,660 --> 01:51:15,180 What did you think of the beach scene and sort of the aftermath 1788 01:51:15,180 --> 01:51:20,340 of that? It was very I loved it. 1789 01:51:20,340 --> 01:51:22,860 It was very cute. It was very poignant. 1790 01:51:25,060 --> 01:51:32,460 I think that the aftermath, though, was immature. 1791 01:51:32,580 --> 01:51:35,220 Yes, I was thinking that too, because. 1792 01:51:35,670 --> 01:51:36,950 Let's just put it in perspective. 1793 01:51:36,950 --> 01:51:39,110 He's almost 30. Yeah. 1794 01:51:41,230 --> 01:51:43,670 Yes, he's having a sexual identity crisis. 1795 01:51:44,590 --> 01:51:48,550 He loves a man. But for him to go AWOL for three 1796 01:51:48,550 --> 01:51:51,710 days? And he's a business owner and 1797 01:51:52,030 --> 01:51:55,430 just leaves the coffee shop unattended for three days? 1798 01:51:55,830 --> 01:51:57,590 Nope. Not receiving any calls. 1799 01:51:57,590 --> 01:52:02,830 This is like teenager behavior. It is and that comes with. 1800 01:52:03,300 --> 01:52:05,860 The immaturity of not having friends. 1801 01:52:05,860 --> 01:52:08,260 You're building your own levels. Because it's not. 1802 01:52:08,260 --> 01:52:10,940 It doesn't have friends. No I I. 1803 01:52:11,900 --> 01:52:13,340 Like. There's that. 1804 01:52:13,340 --> 01:52:16,380 I don't think he has a lot apart from his cousin. 1805 01:52:16,820 --> 01:52:21,900 A lot of interaction, meaningful relationships with people. 1806 01:52:22,420 --> 01:52:27,900 I thought it was very unfair to understand just how much work 1807 01:52:28,180 --> 01:52:31,220 meant to her. And what she could do for her 1808 01:52:31,220 --> 01:52:35,820 family and to take that away, so to lash out on her. 1809 01:52:35,860 --> 01:52:38,380 I was pissed. Yeah, because he kept saying 1810 01:52:38,420 --> 01:52:41,100 every other episode he was like, you're fired, you're done. 1811 01:52:41,180 --> 01:52:46,980 Yeah, like you don't play people like a yo-yo, It was very 1812 01:52:46,980 --> 01:52:51,580 annoying to watch. But I also understood him 1813 01:52:51,580 --> 01:52:55,620 because. He was in an era of we don't go 1814 01:52:55,620 --> 01:52:59,580 to therapist, see how he struggled to go to the 1815 01:52:59,580 --> 01:53:04,900 psychiatrist and. And the psychiatrist was office 1816 01:53:05,060 --> 01:53:08,700 dismal. Yes, that was a bad I was like. 1817 01:53:08,700 --> 01:53:12,660 That was a terrible. Portrayal of therapy and going 1818 01:53:12,660 --> 01:53:15,860 to a psychiatrist and the psychiatrist was like. 1819 01:53:16,290 --> 01:53:19,250 How long have you been having fantasies of dressing as a woman 1820 01:53:19,250 --> 01:53:21,250 and thoughts of doing this? And I'm like, what? 1821 01:53:21,250 --> 01:53:24,130 Completely wrong. Yeah, completely wrong. 1822 01:53:24,530 --> 01:53:26,690 Did. And I was like, but you'll be 1823 01:53:26,690 --> 01:53:28,890 fine in a few days if you just take this medication. 1824 01:53:28,890 --> 01:53:29,730 I'm like, what? What? 1825 01:53:32,050 --> 01:53:36,010 That was the problematic, oh really problematic moment for 1826 01:53:36,010 --> 01:53:40,210 me, because it's almost like you're saying pray the gay away, 1827 01:53:40,210 --> 01:53:41,690 so take in a sense. Yeah. 1828 01:53:41,690 --> 01:53:44,240 Or medicate the. Yeah, medicate, yeah. 1829 01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:48,600 And that was that was crossing the line for me. 1830 01:53:49,120 --> 01:53:57,960 However, I want to recognize the error and the lack of of empathy 1831 01:53:57,960 --> 01:54:03,600 and knowledge and just respect. It was present, so I get it, but 1832 01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:07,280 it's it's a hard scene to watch. It is very difficult to see 1833 01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:10,360 those three days for him and especially him going to the 1834 01:54:10,360 --> 01:54:13,620 psychiatrist. Cohen Chen says. 1835 01:54:13,620 --> 01:54:16,500 At this point, I'd rather be his good friend as a man than get 1836 01:54:16,500 --> 01:54:19,220 turned down as a woman. As a woman. 1837 01:54:19,700 --> 01:54:25,740 And that's so heartbreaking because she has never gotten to 1838 01:54:25,860 --> 01:54:28,180 be a woman. This is someone who is the 1839 01:54:28,740 --> 01:54:31,060 primary breadwinner of her home. She's. 1840 01:54:31,060 --> 01:54:34,980 Interroginous takes over. She has, I guess, masculine 1841 01:54:34,980 --> 01:54:38,860 features if you want to call them fat, Masculine, but OK, 1842 01:54:39,540 --> 01:54:41,220 she's not traditionally feminine. 1843 01:54:41,660 --> 01:54:45,700 She's not traditionally feminine presenting correct era. 1844 01:54:45,740 --> 01:54:49,740 And even in flashback sequences of her as a child, she still had 1845 01:54:49,740 --> 01:54:51,820 short hair. She was still dressing a little 1846 01:54:51,820 --> 01:54:56,580 more like a tomboy, to use the term in the My Drama List 1847 01:54:56,580 --> 01:55:00,660 synopsis. And I genuinely felt bad for her 1848 01:55:02,060 --> 01:55:06,740 in her struggle, up to a point, because around this time when 1849 01:55:06,740 --> 01:55:10,150 he's going through it. And he's not getting any help. 1850 01:55:10,910 --> 01:55:15,070 And she says she has this pity party. 1851 01:55:15,070 --> 01:55:17,310 It just has many pity parties. She's constantly crying. 1852 01:55:18,430 --> 01:55:23,070 And I have in my notes. I'm so sick of her blubbering, 1853 01:55:23,950 --> 01:55:26,870 You can't I say in my notes, you can't start a relationship based 1854 01:55:26,870 --> 01:55:28,950 on a lie. You have to tell the truth. 1855 01:55:29,070 --> 01:55:30,670 You have to open up and be vulnerable. 1856 01:55:30,670 --> 01:55:32,750 Let them in. And she wants to have her cake 1857 01:55:33,070 --> 01:55:36,870 and eat it too. The entire drama, and I don't 1858 01:55:36,870 --> 01:55:40,990 mean coffee prints as a whole, I mean the drama of this section 1859 01:55:41,150 --> 01:55:46,310 of the show. Their issues would be wrapped up 1860 01:55:46,310 --> 01:55:51,630 if you just manned up, no pun intended, and told him the truth 1861 01:55:51,630 --> 01:55:55,710 that she's a woman. I honestly didn't get the 1862 01:55:55,710 --> 01:56:02,310 spinning wheels of that section of the show because to me. 1863 01:56:02,820 --> 01:56:04,820 She's suffering. He's suffering. 1864 01:56:05,700 --> 01:56:08,500 What's gonna change? Like something has to give. 1865 01:56:09,660 --> 01:56:11,220 Yes. Oh my gosh. 1866 01:56:11,260 --> 01:56:16,060 And I love that when he found out and finally when, you know, 1867 01:56:16,060 --> 01:56:18,220 they move forward, he called her out on it. 1868 01:56:18,220 --> 01:56:21,420 I think two or three times. Oh, I have the direct quotes 1869 01:56:21,420 --> 01:56:22,660 here. I don't worry. 1870 01:56:22,660 --> 01:56:25,300 We'll get to it in a second because we still have a couple 1871 01:56:25,300 --> 01:56:28,380 of things before the shit hits the fan, because I love when she 1872 01:56:28,380 --> 01:56:32,280 says in this pity party. With the cousin there, she says. 1873 01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:35,200 But look at me, I'm not a man or a woman. 1874 01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:41,120 I'm too scared to tell him. And that's something that the 1875 01:56:41,120 --> 01:56:44,640 cousin brings up later when shit hits the fan and people are 1876 01:56:44,640 --> 01:56:47,920 trying to reconcile the two of them by saying what they know of 1877 01:56:47,920 --> 01:56:50,560 the story. And the cousin says she doesn't 1878 01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:53,880 even know who she is. There you go. 1879 01:56:54,280 --> 01:56:57,760 And it's like, that's really profound, That's really deep. 1880 01:56:58,120 --> 01:57:02,930 She's very young. And she's been put in a box for 1881 01:57:02,930 --> 01:57:06,010 her whole life, which is you're not good enough. 1882 01:57:06,010 --> 01:57:08,410 You don't look the right part to be a woman. 1883 01:57:09,610 --> 01:57:12,770 You're not feminine presenting. And so you're just going to get 1884 01:57:12,770 --> 01:57:16,610 put in the box of you're a boy, we're going to consider you a 1885 01:57:16,610 --> 01:57:21,690 man. And it's this whole complexity 1886 01:57:21,690 --> 01:57:25,260 of not being wanted. Of not knowing how to be a 1887 01:57:25,260 --> 01:57:27,300 woman. What is femininity can is she 1888 01:57:27,300 --> 01:57:30,100 still a woman even though she's dressing like this and acting 1889 01:57:30,100 --> 01:57:32,060 like this and has these jobs and all this stuff? 1890 01:57:32,420 --> 01:57:35,580 It's very interesting. I have a question. 1891 01:57:35,620 --> 01:57:39,460 Yeah. So she was a tomboy with her 1892 01:57:39,460 --> 01:57:43,180 dad, right? You see that sequence of of her 1893 01:57:43,500 --> 01:57:46,900 playing with her dad and her dad playing with her as if he's a 1894 01:57:46,900 --> 01:57:51,900 son or she's a son. But when she grows older, is 1895 01:57:51,900 --> 01:57:57,220 she? Forced into this box that she's 1896 01:57:57,260 --> 01:58:00,900 in, I think so in order to be able to provide for. 1897 01:58:00,900 --> 01:58:03,900 Her family, I think it's a little bit of both that she's 1898 01:58:03,900 --> 01:58:07,900 comfortable wearing these clothes and with the short hair, 1899 01:58:07,940 --> 01:58:10,220 that's fine. Maybe she's comfortable not 1900 01:58:10,220 --> 01:58:11,380 wearing makeup. That's totally fine. 1901 01:58:11,380 --> 01:58:15,100 But I also think it's that she was forced into it to provide 1902 01:58:15,100 --> 01:58:17,700 for her family and to. Provide for her family. 1903 01:58:17,700 --> 01:58:22,380 Patriarchal stand in for her dad who died early and now she has 1904 01:58:22,380 --> 01:58:25,380 to provide for her family. So absolutely, it's a little bit 1905 01:58:25,380 --> 01:58:28,260 of both to me. It's it's it's really a 1906 01:58:28,260 --> 01:58:33,420 conversation on society. Oh yeah, for me because. 1907 01:58:34,350 --> 01:58:39,910 Back then, you may be working at a cafe, or you may be like a bar 1908 01:58:39,910 --> 01:58:44,590 host or a waitress. You cannot excuse the fact that 1909 01:58:44,590 --> 01:58:47,190 she had very little options to go with because. 1910 01:58:47,190 --> 01:58:51,470 She had very little options. She was very young, in her 20s. 1911 01:58:51,710 --> 01:58:55,310 She did not have a college education, she repeatedly said. 1912 01:58:55,310 --> 01:58:57,030 She had no dreams, She had no talent. 1913 01:58:57,030 --> 01:59:00,590 She didn't do well in school, so there's no recourse for her 1914 01:59:00,590 --> 01:59:04,830 other than to do these. Dirty jobs for essentially these 1915 01:59:04,830 --> 01:59:10,350 jobs that are meant for men with no education, Men who are young 1916 01:59:10,590 --> 01:59:14,830 like part time, which. Probably, which probably paid 1917 01:59:14,830 --> 01:59:17,590 more. Yes, which probably paid more 1918 01:59:18,110 --> 01:59:21,350 than if she was saying that she's a woman and she wants 1919 01:59:21,350 --> 01:59:23,350 these jobs because of the pay gap. 1920 01:59:24,950 --> 01:59:28,040 It's completely unfair. It is unfair. 1921 01:59:28,280 --> 01:59:35,680 So I I understand her, but I my issue with her is when she saw 1922 01:59:35,720 --> 01:59:41,160 that it was getting serious. Yes, she she has gotten the same 1923 01:59:41,160 --> 01:59:45,280 courage that Hangill worked through. 1924 01:59:45,400 --> 01:59:48,200 Yes, to speak up, but she didn't get that courage. 1925 01:59:48,200 --> 01:59:50,680 Didn't. And then we get to the kiss in 1926 01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:54,440 the coffee shop, which is iconic and. 1927 01:59:55,650 --> 01:59:57,330 I don't know what else to say about that. 1928 01:59:58,090 --> 02:00:00,450 Because it's amazing. It's amazing. 1929 02:00:00,610 --> 02:00:03,410 He comes in hot. He's like is all over her. 1930 02:00:03,410 --> 02:00:05,610 And I think this is that part where and when they were 1931 02:00:05,610 --> 02:00:11,090 rewatching it now closer to the present day, I think she was 1932 02:00:11,090 --> 02:00:14,130 grabbing his shirt or something in that scene and I was like, 1933 02:00:14,490 --> 02:00:17,730 like, that's a lot. But he says this line, I like 1934 02:00:17,730 --> 02:00:19,770 you. I don't care if you're a man or 1935 02:00:19,770 --> 02:00:23,610 an alien anymore. See. 1936 02:00:24,010 --> 02:00:28,090 OK. It's an iconic line. 1937 02:00:28,210 --> 02:00:32,610 People keep saying it in every variety show whenever the skits 1938 02:00:32,610 --> 02:00:38,090 comes up. Was it necessary to say Alien? 1939 02:00:38,090 --> 02:00:39,810 I don't know. I don't know. 1940 02:00:41,090 --> 02:00:45,050 I get the sentiment is what he's saying, that I don't care who 1941 02:00:45,050 --> 02:00:47,290 you are, you're just you and I like you. 1942 02:00:47,610 --> 02:00:52,170 That's fine. To compare being in love with a 1943 02:00:52,170 --> 02:00:53,970 man to being in love with an alien. 1944 02:00:54,810 --> 02:00:57,410 That was a bit. Hasn't aged well at all. 1945 02:00:57,450 --> 02:01:04,090 But no, it's 2007. But people still like that line. 1946 02:01:04,130 --> 02:01:07,530 They like to drive. Yeah, I I'm just shocked at it. 1947 02:01:07,690 --> 02:01:09,690 Yeah, I just love the kiss. That's a. 1948 02:01:09,690 --> 02:01:12,450 Kiss. I just distinctly remember 1949 02:01:12,450 --> 02:01:16,770 watching this kiss in 2011 or so when I first watched show and I 1950 02:01:16,770 --> 02:01:20,210 was like, Oh my God, I think I I was rebound rewinding it. 1951 02:01:20,570 --> 02:01:21,730 I was like, I gotta see it again. 1952 02:01:21,850 --> 02:01:26,040 I gotta see it again. Yeah, it's steamy. 1953 02:01:26,040 --> 02:01:27,360 It's good. It's spicy. 1954 02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:34,080 Then shit hits the fan. The poser boyfriend who is my 1955 02:01:34,080 --> 02:01:37,520 perfect stranger dude, He spills a beans. 1956 02:01:38,280 --> 02:01:41,440 He spills a blabbermouth. He's such a blabbermouth because 1957 02:01:41,440 --> 02:01:44,240 he thinks that she told him the truth when he gets to work that 1958 02:01:44,240 --> 02:01:47,680 morning, but she chickens out. And then he starts talking about 1959 02:01:47,680 --> 02:01:53,000 her as if Kungyu knows the truth, the intensity of that 1960 02:01:53,000 --> 02:01:56,640 moment. Yo, the intensity. 1961 02:01:57,160 --> 02:01:59,440 That's why I'm like, go for the best actor. 1962 02:01:59,520 --> 02:02:02,800 Oh my God. And I hate her reaction. 1963 02:02:03,280 --> 02:02:06,080 I do hate on Chan's reaction because she can't look him in 1964 02:02:06,080 --> 02:02:09,000 the eye, which fine, I feel like that's a cultural thing that 1965 02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:13,000 like if you are at fault, if you are, you know, have a lower 1966 02:02:13,000 --> 02:02:16,960 position, if you're sorry, you don't make eye contact with 1967 02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:18,360 somebody. That's rude. 1968 02:02:18,600 --> 02:02:21,840 Yeah, so fine, she doesn't look him in the eye, but then she 1969 02:02:21,840 --> 02:02:26,240 doesn't say anything. She's so ashamed that she 1970 02:02:26,240 --> 02:02:27,840 doesn't say anything. She doesn't offer any 1971 02:02:27,840 --> 02:02:30,440 explanation. She doesn't say I'm sorry, even 1972 02:02:30,760 --> 02:02:33,640 he's got nothing to go off of. And again he goes AWOL. 1973 02:02:33,640 --> 02:02:37,880 He goes driving down the street, thinking back on all the moments 1974 02:02:37,880 --> 02:02:40,240 they've had together and how he should have seen it coming that 1975 02:02:40,240 --> 02:02:45,920 she was a girl the whole time. And that's his bad, because you 1976 02:02:45,920 --> 02:02:47,200 should have challenged your thoughts. 1977 02:02:47,640 --> 02:02:50,920 You should have heard her when she first said. 1978 02:02:51,410 --> 02:02:54,570 Her I D and started with two. But no. 1979 02:02:54,690 --> 02:02:57,570 You're like it's a you know what? 1980 02:02:57,650 --> 02:02:59,610 He had every right to be angry. He. 1981 02:02:59,690 --> 02:03:03,530 Did have every right to be angry, I feel, And his world 1982 02:03:03,530 --> 02:03:06,330 came crashing down in a very key drama fashion. 1983 02:03:06,330 --> 02:03:10,650 But I love his line when he's talking to the cousin later, 1984 02:03:10,650 --> 02:03:12,770 because the cousin knew the whole time he got mad that the 1985 02:03:12,770 --> 02:03:16,770 cousin was lying to him too, feeding into the ruse. 1986 02:03:17,410 --> 02:03:20,490 And Kony says, will the world end if I find out she's a girl? 1987 02:03:23,850 --> 02:03:28,890 And I'm like, he got points. He's got points, OK? 1988 02:03:30,490 --> 02:03:32,930 He says to her later. Tell me this isn't true. 1989 02:03:32,930 --> 02:03:34,570 Tell me you didn't lie to me for months. 1990 02:03:34,850 --> 02:03:37,170 You don't do that to someone you love. 1991 02:03:41,090 --> 02:03:44,530 OK, I'm going to watch this again when we finish because 1992 02:03:44,690 --> 02:03:46,610 those lies. Impactful. 1993 02:03:47,200 --> 02:03:49,800 I hope you do one of those posts that you do. 1994 02:03:50,400 --> 02:03:52,320 With like with the lines, the quotes. 1995 02:03:52,400 --> 02:03:55,240 Yeah, with the quotes, because it's impactful. 1996 02:03:55,440 --> 02:03:56,960 I'll do it. I'll do it, don't worry. 1997 02:03:56,960 --> 02:04:01,680 But he, I mean, they talk to that each other scattered 1998 02:04:01,680 --> 02:04:04,960 throughout the episode, because of course, they're just angsty 1999 02:04:04,960 --> 02:04:08,400 and upset, and he has every right to be, he says later. 2000 02:04:08,920 --> 02:04:11,160 You were selfish. You didn't care what I was going 2001 02:04:11,160 --> 02:04:13,160 through. You didn't tell me, even when I 2002 02:04:13,160 --> 02:04:16,160 told you that I like you, even though you're a guy. 2003 02:04:17,120 --> 02:04:22,600 So I love that he hits on the the selfishness of her, not 2004 02:04:22,600 --> 02:04:27,040 telling him that he she didn't consider how he'd feel. 2005 02:04:28,280 --> 02:04:31,400 And then he does it like this is inexcusable. 2006 02:04:31,400 --> 02:04:34,760 But he, like comes on her and they have this aggressive kiss 2007 02:04:34,760 --> 02:04:37,960 in the coffee house. And then he pulls away and says 2008 02:04:37,960 --> 02:04:41,480 I like you better as a man. That was that. 2009 02:04:41,600 --> 02:04:46,840 That was the moment. That was the moment for me, 2010 02:04:46,960 --> 02:04:49,720 because I told you I was in a very special space. 2011 02:04:50,840 --> 02:04:56,920 That was the moment where I decided that no matter how angry 2012 02:04:56,920 --> 02:05:00,320 I am, I will not intentionally hurt someone. 2013 02:05:01,240 --> 02:05:05,200 And I've lived by that, like, forever. 2014 02:05:06,280 --> 02:05:08,960 And so there was a moment in my life where. 2015 02:05:09,710 --> 02:05:14,110 My dad did that to me and I remember having a panic attack 2016 02:05:14,630 --> 02:05:20,350 because I was like, you did not need my dad and my sister shout 2017 02:05:20,350 --> 02:05:24,310 out to my sister. I love her but and my dad, 2018 02:05:24,390 --> 02:05:30,270 sorry, but I was like, you don't need to intentionally hurt 2019 02:05:30,270 --> 02:05:33,870 people the way you know it would hurt them the most. 2020 02:05:34,270 --> 02:05:36,430 Right. And I could not forgive that 2021 02:05:36,430 --> 02:05:39,030 moment. Yeah, it's very. 2022 02:05:41,400 --> 02:05:44,000 Below the belt, very below the belt. 2023 02:05:44,000 --> 02:05:46,920 For him to do that. And then he says what do we have 2024 02:05:46,920 --> 02:05:48,320 now? Do we have trust? 2025 02:05:48,640 --> 02:05:50,960 You don't know what I gave up in my life to have you. 2026 02:05:50,960 --> 02:05:53,480 You've been weighing your choices because you didn't want 2027 02:05:53,480 --> 02:05:56,160 to get hurt. Oh my gosh. 2028 02:05:56,320 --> 02:05:58,400 Vulnerability. Fuck yeah. 2029 02:06:00,920 --> 02:06:03,920 It's so much. It's so much. 2030 02:06:03,920 --> 02:06:05,960 But they make up, they get over it. 2031 02:06:06,120 --> 02:06:07,880 They get through it. They. 2032 02:06:08,670 --> 02:06:11,910 You know, reconcile. And then we get a bunch of 2033 02:06:11,910 --> 02:06:15,550 episodes where they're together and it's very sweet, even 2034 02:06:15,550 --> 02:06:18,030 sweeter than the other episodes that came before it. 2035 02:06:18,030 --> 02:06:20,950 They're very giddy with each other, especially him. 2036 02:06:20,950 --> 02:06:25,870 I feel like Kong, Yu's character, is just smitten with 2037 02:06:25,870 --> 02:06:27,910 her. Anytime he sees her, he's just 2038 02:06:27,910 --> 02:06:30,470 like, like, it's so cute to see them. 2039 02:06:32,630 --> 02:06:34,310 And then we get those final episodes. 2040 02:06:34,310 --> 02:06:36,230 Where is he? Or is he not going to go back to 2041 02:06:36,230 --> 02:06:37,390 New York? Let me just say. 2042 02:06:38,370 --> 02:06:43,730 New York has been a problem in K dramas since Time Immemorium. 2043 02:06:44,050 --> 02:06:46,890 OK, this is not a business proposal. 2044 02:06:46,890 --> 02:06:49,730 Recent thing. He goes to New York and leaves 2045 02:06:49,730 --> 02:06:52,530 her and there's a time jump. No baby like New York was a 2046 02:06:52,530 --> 02:06:57,730 threat since the early 2000s. It's always been in the ether. 2047 02:06:58,690 --> 02:07:01,970 And he ends up deciding, deciding not to go back to New 2048 02:07:01,970 --> 02:07:09,050 York and design toys. Because he's found new meaning 2049 02:07:09,210 --> 02:07:12,210 to life. He just found new, meaning new 2050 02:07:12,210 --> 02:07:15,650 fulfillment in what he's doing at the coffee shop, which is. 2051 02:07:15,810 --> 02:07:18,290 That's the word. Really interesting concept to 2052 02:07:18,290 --> 02:07:21,130 give up on a dream because you found a new one. 2053 02:07:21,850 --> 02:07:24,810 Yes, Yeah. Yes. 2054 02:07:24,890 --> 02:07:27,290 Oh, my gosh. OK, random. 2055 02:07:27,370 --> 02:07:31,250 I was talking about men that I admire. 2056 02:07:31,810 --> 02:07:36,250 And why I admire them. And the common thread was one of 2057 02:07:36,250 --> 02:07:40,170 these points where you have one dream and you're just like, you 2058 02:07:40,170 --> 02:07:43,210 know what, I'm going to lay it down and go after this one 2059 02:07:43,210 --> 02:07:48,010 because I I love that. I'm like, ooh, let's put that on 2060 02:07:48,010 --> 02:07:49,330 my vision board. Let's go. 2061 02:07:50,290 --> 02:07:54,250 I mean, we're leaving out the fact that he is enamored with on 2062 02:07:54,250 --> 02:07:56,730 time and wants to stay with her, doesn't want to do long distance 2063 02:07:56,730 --> 02:08:00,090 or break up. True but. 2064 02:08:01,050 --> 02:08:04,330 Does he need to design toys anymore to feel something? 2065 02:08:04,330 --> 02:08:06,730 No. No, Yeah. 2066 02:08:06,970 --> 02:08:11,290 No. I was devastated when he tells 2067 02:08:11,290 --> 02:08:14,530 the grandmother and the family that Unchan is actually a girl 2068 02:08:14,650 --> 02:08:17,450 and that they're dating. And their reaction? 2069 02:08:17,450 --> 02:08:19,530 The reaction? From grandma. 2070 02:08:19,770 --> 02:08:24,170 From grandma was shocked. Fair, but grandma was vicious. 2071 02:08:24,330 --> 02:08:28,050 Oh my gosh. So one of the worst blowout 2072 02:08:28,050 --> 02:08:30,410 reactions, and it hurts and so much. 2073 02:08:30,410 --> 02:08:34,810 I mean, it hurt me and I'm just a casual audience member 2074 02:08:35,290 --> 02:08:39,130 watching this after the fact, but it was very sad. 2075 02:08:43,010 --> 02:08:45,970 Oh my God. But then you two and the cousin 2076 02:08:46,810 --> 02:08:48,850 who have had their ups and downs, they're back together, 2077 02:08:48,850 --> 02:08:56,170 She gets pregnant and then she proposes to to him that they get 2078 02:08:56,170 --> 02:09:01,630 married. Well, he proposed to her and she 2079 02:09:01,630 --> 02:09:06,670 was noncommittal, you know, with the, I don't know, cheese stick 2080 02:09:06,670 --> 02:09:10,030 or whatever it was. And then she comes back and 2081 02:09:10,030 --> 02:09:13,150 proposes to him, and that was beautiful. 2082 02:09:13,310 --> 02:09:18,830 I know the girlies were up in a bunch about it, but it was. 2083 02:09:19,270 --> 02:09:21,550 I think mean the girlies were up in a bunch. 2084 02:09:22,170 --> 02:09:25,450 They hated that scene. They're like, why should a girl, 2085 02:09:25,690 --> 02:09:30,170 Why should a girl propose? It should always be the guy. 2086 02:09:30,210 --> 02:09:35,050 And OK. Babes, So my thing is the the 2087 02:09:35,050 --> 02:09:37,770 show is groundbreaking in all kinds of ways. 2088 02:09:37,770 --> 02:09:41,490 So many ways. And they had set up earlier that 2089 02:09:41,490 --> 02:09:43,370 her character doesn't want to get married. 2090 02:09:43,650 --> 02:09:45,930 She's not about that life. She's a free spirit, whatever 2091 02:09:45,930 --> 02:09:47,890 the hell. And. 2092 02:09:48,230 --> 02:09:50,030 I feel, and I've said this in another episode, I can't 2093 02:09:50,030 --> 02:09:54,430 remember which one might have been searched. www.withyouthat. 2094 02:09:54,990 --> 02:09:58,750 That's a deal breaker in a relationship, right? 2095 02:09:58,750 --> 02:10:01,030 When one person wants to get married and the other person 2096 02:10:01,030 --> 02:10:05,390 doesn't, on moral, ethical, whatever grounds that they want, 2097 02:10:06,550 --> 02:10:08,590 that's a deal breaker. To me. 2098 02:10:08,590 --> 02:10:14,110 That's spells the end of the relationship and the fact that 2099 02:10:14,110 --> 02:10:17,780 she sort of works through it. And gets over the trauma because 2100 02:10:17,780 --> 02:10:19,580 her mom's been married four times. 2101 02:10:19,580 --> 02:10:23,460 And, like, it's this whole thing complex that she has about 2102 02:10:23,460 --> 02:10:26,980 getting married. She plucks up the courage to 2103 02:10:26,980 --> 02:10:29,020 actually propose to him. And then she knows that it's 2104 02:10:29,020 --> 02:10:30,740 something that he's wanted for many years. 2105 02:10:31,140 --> 02:10:33,140 Talk about being together for nine years and not getting 2106 02:10:33,140 --> 02:10:35,380 married. I'm like, that was not on him. 2107 02:10:35,380 --> 02:10:37,780 He would have gotten married long ago, but it was on. 2108 02:10:37,860 --> 02:10:39,420 Her. That's true. 2109 02:10:40,060 --> 02:10:42,590 And. You know him sort of cheating on 2110 02:10:42,590 --> 02:10:44,550 her. Her definitely cheating on him. 2111 02:10:44,550 --> 02:10:48,910 They've come so far and it's very good. 2112 02:10:49,630 --> 02:10:53,950 I can't understand why it's it's a character development for her, 2113 02:10:54,190 --> 02:10:56,110 yeah, to propose. I would. 2114 02:10:57,710 --> 02:11:02,390 I would like to say it may not be a deal breaker if you find 2115 02:11:02,390 --> 02:11:05,830 the right guy when you're thinking about Su young from 2116 02:11:06,190 --> 02:11:09,910 Girls' Generation and her guy and who's saying. 2117 02:11:10,950 --> 02:11:15,750 Him saying and interviews like I want her to have the success, 2118 02:11:15,750 --> 02:11:19,270 all the success she wants, and the work she wants to do and 2119 02:11:19,270 --> 02:11:21,550 whatnot. Like, yes, I'd like to get 2120 02:11:21,550 --> 02:11:24,790 married, but her dreams are just as important. 2121 02:11:24,830 --> 02:11:27,030 I died. Oh my God, I love that man. 2122 02:11:27,590 --> 02:11:28,870 But yeah. Right. 2123 02:11:28,870 --> 02:11:31,590 I think what I said on the search www.episodewasthat, 2124 02:11:31,590 --> 02:11:34,990 somebody has to compromise. Yes. 2125 02:11:36,030 --> 02:11:37,710 Yes, you did say that, I remember. 2126 02:11:37,710 --> 02:11:41,670 That, and yeah, that's a real life compromise with that 2127 02:11:41,830 --> 02:11:44,230 celebrity. That's true. 2128 02:11:44,630 --> 02:11:49,070 But in the show we also see, we see him compromise. 2129 02:11:49,590 --> 02:11:51,430 We see everyone compromise. Yeah. 2130 02:11:51,470 --> 02:11:55,670 Which is so beautiful. Because that's very realistic, 2131 02:11:56,790 --> 02:11:59,350 yeah. But Kong You's character fumbles 2132 02:11:59,350 --> 02:12:02,550 a bag in the final couple of episodes because he gets 2133 02:12:02,550 --> 02:12:08,580 marriage hungry. And he gets approval from his 2134 02:12:08,580 --> 02:12:11,220 entire family. He convinces his whole family 2135 02:12:11,780 --> 02:12:13,700 that Untine is the perfect daughterinlaw. 2136 02:12:14,820 --> 02:12:18,220 The co-owner is talking, talking her up to the grandmother. 2137 02:12:18,220 --> 02:12:20,700 He's like, you don't even realize what a Jemmy you have 2138 02:12:20,700 --> 02:12:23,620 here because she's better than him and all this stuff. 2139 02:12:24,620 --> 02:12:28,700 So he proposes to her, puts a ring on her finger. 2140 02:12:28,700 --> 02:12:33,700 She thinks it's just a promise. Ring, A couple ring. 2141 02:12:35,410 --> 02:12:39,890 And she assumes and talking with her little sister and stuff, 2142 02:12:40,250 --> 02:12:44,210 that they would get married in 4-5 years or something. 2143 02:12:45,410 --> 02:12:53,090 He's shocked, shocked because he wants to get married now, like 2144 02:12:53,090 --> 02:12:56,850 in the next year. And she's all about I need to 2145 02:12:56,850 --> 02:12:59,590 work on myself. I have this. 2146 02:12:59,670 --> 02:13:03,350 I finally have something I want to do, something I'm good at, 2147 02:13:03,350 --> 02:13:06,990 something I'm interested in, and that's becoming a great barista. 2148 02:13:07,310 --> 02:13:09,750 I want to be the best barista ever. 2149 02:13:09,750 --> 02:13:13,830 I want to study this. I this is my dream now and to 2150 02:13:13,830 --> 02:13:16,710 provide for my family on my own terms and stuff. 2151 02:13:17,390 --> 02:13:20,230 And he's over here like, I swear I'll take responsibility for 2152 02:13:20,230 --> 02:13:22,550 your family. And that was something that the 2153 02:13:22,550 --> 02:13:24,950 sister was bringing up to. She was like, is he going to buy 2154 02:13:24,950 --> 02:13:26,830 us a house before you move to New York? 2155 02:13:27,310 --> 02:13:29,750 I know. I'm like, bitch, what entitled. 2156 02:13:29,950 --> 02:13:32,390 Entitled little brat. What makes you think that her 2157 02:13:32,390 --> 02:13:35,710 boyfriend should buy you a house? 2158 02:13:35,710 --> 02:13:36,510 It was like. Exactly. 2159 02:13:37,710 --> 02:13:41,470 And Unchan says in that moment, responsibility. 2160 02:13:41,950 --> 02:13:44,070 How? For how long? 2161 02:13:44,390 --> 02:13:46,670 It's better not to make promises you can't keep. 2162 02:13:46,870 --> 02:13:49,550 Will you live forever and never die? 2163 02:13:49,870 --> 02:13:52,950 My father said he'd take responsibility for our family 2164 02:13:52,950 --> 02:13:54,870 forever, but he couldn't do that. 2165 02:13:55,260 --> 02:13:57,940 A person can't take responsibility over another 2166 02:13:57,940 --> 02:14:00,500 person. You can only take responsibility 2167 02:14:00,700 --> 02:14:03,260 for yourself, for yourself, until you can accomplish. 2168 02:14:03,660 --> 02:14:07,060 Until I can accomplish things on my own, I won't marry. 2169 02:14:09,140 --> 02:14:11,820 You know, I feel. The ground, I feel the ground 2170 02:14:11,820 --> 02:14:15,220 shaking. I feel it shaking because this 2171 02:14:15,220 --> 02:14:21,310 is so very. Amazing of them to write into 2172 02:14:21,310 --> 02:14:24,790 her character, and it felt very genuine for her to have this 2173 02:14:24,790 --> 02:14:28,550 pride over her life and this fierce independence. 2174 02:14:28,550 --> 02:14:31,150 Of course she does. She's been doing this on her own 2175 02:14:31,150 --> 02:14:35,230 since she was 16, and why should she be a kept woman? 2176 02:14:35,230 --> 02:14:37,550 Why should he have to provide for her family? 2177 02:14:37,550 --> 02:14:42,070 She can do it on her own and all of these things. 2178 02:14:42,670 --> 02:14:47,670 I was watching with my mom and at this scene she was like. 2179 02:14:48,360 --> 02:14:51,440 You see, This is why I tell you, you have to make your own money. 2180 02:14:51,480 --> 02:14:54,880 Go to school, start working, make your money before you go 2181 02:14:55,280 --> 02:14:56,920 and do this. Laugh, laugh, laugh, laugh. 2182 02:14:58,160 --> 02:15:02,640 I laughed my head off, but it was so important, yeah, to to 2183 02:15:02,640 --> 02:15:04,760 learn that. It's very important to. 2184 02:15:05,360 --> 02:15:08,480 I think in today's day and age, there's so many horror stories 2185 02:15:08,640 --> 02:15:11,960 of. You just don't have any skills 2186 02:15:11,960 --> 02:15:15,880 to survive on your own and then you get stuck in a relationship 2187 02:15:15,880 --> 02:15:18,960 that is providing for you and a lifestyle that you can't 2188 02:15:18,960 --> 02:15:23,880 maintain on your own and. And knowing his behavior, oh, 2189 02:15:23,960 --> 02:15:28,040 his anger issues, he can just take it away and then what? 2190 02:15:28,360 --> 02:15:29,680 Right. Cuz he was threatening her with 2191 02:15:29,680 --> 02:15:33,040 her job for half the show. And so she was like, uh oh, 2192 02:15:33,040 --> 02:15:36,520 we're not marrying. And me just like live as your 2193 02:15:36,520 --> 02:15:37,400 wife. Like I want. 2194 02:15:37,400 --> 02:15:39,760 I have dreams. I want things I want to do. 2195 02:15:39,760 --> 02:15:42,960 I have things I want to do. And I was like, damn mad 2196 02:15:42,960 --> 02:15:44,560 respect. I'll tell you what though. 2197 02:15:44,560 --> 02:15:50,120 When I first watched this in 2011, I was in a different spot 2198 02:15:50,120 --> 02:15:51,480 in my life. Yes, I had a job. 2199 02:15:51,480 --> 02:15:55,120 Yes, I was educated. But holy hell, I was on Kongyu's 2200 02:15:55,120 --> 02:16:00,000 side during this whole thing. I was like, why isn't she 2201 02:16:00,000 --> 02:16:03,000 marrying him? I don't understand why they're 2202 02:16:03,000 --> 02:16:05,480 waiting. I don't understand why she wants 2203 02:16:05,480 --> 02:16:09,720 to become a barista. Of all the I was like really 2204 02:16:10,120 --> 02:16:17,240 upset with her not accepting the proposal right away And to like 2205 02:16:17,400 --> 02:16:19,600 watching it today, I'm like, maybe I'm just. 2206 02:16:19,600 --> 02:16:21,560 In a different. Place in my life. 2207 02:16:21,560 --> 02:16:23,280 I'm like, absolutely fucking lutely. 2208 02:16:23,280 --> 02:16:26,440 Why would she get married now? She's so young. 2209 02:16:26,440 --> 02:16:30,480 She has so much she wants to do. Let her study coffee, whatever 2210 02:16:30,480 --> 02:16:34,120 the fuck she wants. I don't care It it made no sense 2211 02:16:34,120 --> 02:16:37,200 for him to want to marry her after three months. 2212 02:16:37,629 --> 02:16:41,350 Together three months that they've known each other. 2213 02:16:41,790 --> 02:16:47,990 But sometimes I feel like, did he wants to marry her or do he 2214 02:16:47,990 --> 02:16:51,110 want to have sex with her because they have that scene. 2215 02:16:51,270 --> 02:16:56,820 Did have that talk to me? They did have that scene where 2216 02:16:57,379 --> 02:17:00,740 he's like, yeah, and we'll live in New York together and you'll 2217 02:17:00,740 --> 02:17:02,860 go to Chelsea and we'll have pizza. 2218 02:17:02,860 --> 02:17:06,059 And he was painting this whole picture, which is so funny 2219 02:17:06,059 --> 02:17:10,940 because he was telling handsome like once you marry, you want 2220 02:17:11,180 --> 02:17:14,620 that person to live according to your. 2221 02:17:14,620 --> 02:17:21,780 They have that conversation. But for him, he's like, oh. 2222 02:17:22,290 --> 02:17:24,809 Wait, wait, she says. Are we getting married? 2223 02:17:24,809 --> 02:17:29,330 He's like, what are you saying? We have to get married before we 2224 02:17:29,610 --> 02:17:32,090 live together, sleep together? So what? 2225 02:17:32,570 --> 02:17:38,370 This was a little jarring for me because this goes into first of 2226 02:17:38,370 --> 02:17:41,129 all, she's very naive about anything having to do with 2227 02:17:41,129 --> 02:17:43,610 relationship. Anything sexual just kind of 2228 02:17:43,730 --> 02:17:48,370 blows her mind and. I mean earlier when they and 2229 02:17:48,370 --> 02:17:51,969 that when the second leads, the second couple announces that 2230 02:17:51,969 --> 02:17:55,250 they're pregnant, She's very happy for them, but she's like, 2231 02:17:55,250 --> 02:17:58,530 I wonder how they got pregnant and they're not even married. 2232 02:17:59,650 --> 02:18:03,450 No, I. And I was like, so Kongyu's 2233 02:18:03,450 --> 02:18:06,290 characters, like, looks at her and she's like, oh, right. 2234 02:18:06,290 --> 02:18:08,930 And she's like, are you fucking for real? 2235 02:18:11,730 --> 02:18:16,850 Be fucking for real. But, but, but, but, but. 2236 02:18:17,209 --> 02:18:21,889 Gonyu has lived in New York. He's part of the, you know, 2237 02:18:21,889 --> 02:18:26,129 cosmopolitan life, if you will. Cousin is 32. 2238 02:18:26,209 --> 02:18:28,330 He ain't playing no games either. 2239 02:18:28,809 --> 02:18:35,250 But culturally there was still, and I'm sure there still is this 2240 02:18:35,330 --> 02:18:38,730 vibe culturally that you don't get pregnant before you're 2241 02:18:38,730 --> 02:18:40,139 married. Right, right. 2242 02:18:40,139 --> 02:18:43,820 And that's why, you know, celebrities have these shotgun 2243 02:18:43,820 --> 02:18:49,180 weddings. And so I understand how she was 2244 02:18:49,219 --> 02:18:51,459 thinking. And I watched it when I was 18, 2245 02:18:51,860 --> 02:18:56,459 so I I was just on that train of what? 2246 02:18:56,459 --> 02:18:59,059 You mean we're going to have sex and we're not married. 2247 02:18:59,700 --> 02:19:03,299 Okay, but also how presumptive of them to be like. 2248 02:19:03,690 --> 02:19:05,690 Yeah, we'll just live together in New York together. 2249 02:19:05,690 --> 02:19:10,610 And they just started their relationship like, he's like, 2250 02:19:10,610 --> 02:19:13,570 let's live together. We've been together for 72 2251 02:19:13,570 --> 02:19:15,650 hours. Sir, I think we should take it a 2252 02:19:15,650 --> 02:19:21,450 little slower because he was very quick about it and he never 2253 02:19:21,490 --> 02:19:23,490 gave. He never had this conversation 2254 02:19:23,490 --> 02:19:26,610 with her before about what stage are we at? 2255 02:19:26,610 --> 02:19:28,530 Do you want to? Do you even want to live with 2256 02:19:28,530 --> 02:19:31,570 me? He was leading the relationship, 2257 02:19:31,570 --> 02:19:34,490 the girlies are looking for leaders and he was leading. 2258 02:19:34,610 --> 02:19:37,330 What can you say? He was dragging her along like a 2259 02:19:37,330 --> 02:19:41,850 horse behind the cart and she put the brakes on that and she 2260 02:19:41,850 --> 02:19:45,209 was like, no, I wanna do the first of all. 2261 02:19:45,410 --> 02:19:48,890 First of all, she was like, we're not gonna live together 2262 02:19:49,530 --> 02:19:54,930 before we're married, #1 #2 sexist. 2263 02:19:55,170 --> 02:19:58,250 I can't believe you just wanna have sex and then not get 2264 02:19:58,250 --> 02:19:59,490 married. It was like very. 2265 02:20:00,800 --> 02:20:03,120 A conservative of her. But also, I understood where she 2266 02:20:03,120 --> 02:20:05,440 was coming from. I was like, yeah, yeah, I can 2267 02:20:05,440 --> 02:20:06,840 kind of see why she was like, what? 2268 02:20:07,280 --> 02:20:10,360 And then third of all, when she finally realizes her barista 2269 02:20:10,360 --> 02:20:12,760 dream, she's like, we're not getting married before I 2270 02:20:12,760 --> 02:20:15,240 complete all this stuff that I want to do. 2271 02:20:15,880 --> 02:20:18,600 Yeah. So again, he was. 2272 02:20:18,640 --> 02:20:21,400 And then he's like making plans without her, which got her 2273 02:20:21,400 --> 02:20:25,120 really upset. Yes, she was like that. 2274 02:20:25,120 --> 02:20:28,520 Was the whole thing. Yes, how can you do this to me 2275 02:20:28,520 --> 02:20:30,880 without even telling me? Yeah. 2276 02:20:32,280 --> 02:20:34,280 Communication, Communication. Communication. 2277 02:20:34,280 --> 02:20:36,880 Communication. And he couldn't understand why 2278 02:20:36,880 --> 02:20:40,920 she was so upset because to him, he's like, giving her this 2279 02:20:40,920 --> 02:20:42,480 Cinderella life. Yeah. 2280 02:20:42,880 --> 02:20:45,240 And she's like, I don't want to be Cinderella. 2281 02:20:45,840 --> 02:20:47,320 I want to be a con Chan. Uh. 2282 02:20:47,640 --> 02:20:48,440 Huh. Uh huh. 2283 02:20:49,320 --> 02:20:52,520 So I think now. Back in 2011 when I watched 2284 02:20:52,520 --> 02:20:54,880 watched this, I was like, she should totally just get married 2285 02:20:55,520 --> 02:20:58,720 to him and they live together and that's the end of it. 2286 02:20:59,560 --> 02:21:03,280 I think now I'm of two minds of it because she was so young, 2287 02:21:03,440 --> 02:21:05,920 right? Just 20 something years old. 2288 02:21:05,920 --> 02:21:11,640 And he's 29, almost 30. And I'm like, first of all, if a 2289 02:21:11,640 --> 02:21:14,840 man wants to marry you and you love each other, just get 2290 02:21:14,840 --> 02:21:16,960 married. There shouldn't be this giant 2291 02:21:17,040 --> 02:21:22,760 engagement that's years long. Second of all, if you want to be 2292 02:21:22,760 --> 02:21:27,040 a cap woman and not have to work and grind and hustle, more power 2293 02:21:27,040 --> 02:21:29,600 to you just get that bag, sweetie. 2294 02:21:29,600 --> 02:21:32,040 Like marry the man. So that's why. 2295 02:21:32,040 --> 02:21:34,000 I mean, I'm like, I'm up two minds of it. 2296 02:21:34,200 --> 02:21:37,200 I think generally. I was definitely supportive of 2297 02:21:37,200 --> 02:21:41,240 her wanting to not get married right away and become a barista 2298 02:21:41,240 --> 02:21:44,730 and all that stuff. Because she never done anything 2299 02:21:44,770 --> 02:21:46,930 remotely like that. He's already studied, he's 2300 02:21:46,930 --> 02:21:50,530 already been abroad. He's just more cultured than she 2301 02:21:50,530 --> 02:21:52,810 is, and she doesn't have all of that experience. 2302 02:21:53,090 --> 02:21:57,970 Not only that he's gotten to live life for him and she has 2303 02:21:57,970 --> 02:22:01,970 lived life for her family this whole time and for the first 2304 02:22:01,970 --> 02:22:07,130 time she's getting to live life for her and it it's it is her 2305 02:22:07,130 --> 02:22:10,610 first relationship and her first time falling in love and. 2306 02:22:12,080 --> 02:22:15,200 Like there's just so many factors like. 2307 02:22:15,240 --> 02:22:17,800 Let her breathe, please. Let her breathe. 2308 02:22:17,920 --> 02:22:20,200 And back then, when I was watching it, I was like, 2309 02:22:20,400 --> 02:22:22,200 definitely don't get married right now. 2310 02:22:22,200 --> 02:22:23,560 Oh, really? Because. 2311 02:22:23,920 --> 02:22:28,800 Oh yeah, Because you can. You have an opportunity to live 2312 02:22:28,800 --> 02:22:30,480 out your dreams. So do it. 2313 02:22:31,120 --> 02:22:35,080 And it's nice to have someone encouraging you along the way, 2314 02:22:35,720 --> 02:22:40,360 but you don't necessarily need it because it's your dream. 2315 02:22:40,740 --> 02:22:47,140 Go after it like I also. Feel like in the Even when I was 2316 02:22:47,140 --> 02:22:50,740 watching it initially, and even now, I feel like we have 2317 02:22:50,980 --> 02:22:54,900 culturally way different stances on what a marriage entails. 2318 02:22:56,340 --> 02:22:59,740 And to me, back in the day and even now, I'm like if she gets 2319 02:22:59,740 --> 02:23:02,740 married, she can still study, she can still become a barista. 2320 02:23:02,740 --> 02:23:06,820 It's not even a thing. But perhaps we're missing the 2321 02:23:06,820 --> 02:23:09,220 part that if they get married, she's going to have to care for 2322 02:23:09,220 --> 02:23:11,550 this man. This manchild is playing with. 2323 02:23:11,550 --> 02:23:16,590 Legos and household, yeah. And his family and her family 2324 02:23:16,630 --> 02:23:18,830 have. Responsibilities and cultural 2325 02:23:18,830 --> 02:23:20,590 duties and all this. Stuff. 2326 02:23:20,910 --> 02:23:23,470 She was seeing all that and she's like, I don't want to do 2327 02:23:23,470 --> 02:23:26,510 that, right? Now and just get that as a I. 2328 02:23:26,830 --> 02:23:30,150 Literally, yeah. I literally just finished doing 2329 02:23:30,150 --> 02:23:32,430 that with my family. What are you talking about? 2330 02:23:33,550 --> 02:23:35,310 And you want me to jump into it again? 2331 02:23:35,310 --> 02:23:37,750 No. And that's very much the space 2332 02:23:37,790 --> 02:23:41,610 I'm in personally right now. With I'm living my life. 2333 02:23:41,610 --> 02:23:44,930 My kids, aka my siblings, have graduated. 2334 02:23:44,970 --> 02:23:46,490 I don't have to care for them anymore. 2335 02:23:46,490 --> 02:23:48,970 Da da da da. It's now about me. 2336 02:23:49,330 --> 02:23:52,810 There's no way I'm going to take that responsibility, jump into 2337 02:23:52,810 --> 02:23:57,410 it head first, yeah. Yeah, so a lot of context that I 2338 02:23:57,410 --> 02:24:00,890 feel like we might be missing or glossing over when we say she 2339 02:24:01,010 --> 02:24:03,410 should just get married or she should just wait and then get 2340 02:24:03,410 --> 02:24:06,530 married, whatever the case is. Now we get a time jump of two 2341 02:24:06,530 --> 02:24:08,290 years. She goes to Italy to become a 2342 02:24:08,290 --> 02:24:14,050 barista and I will tell you, I remember vividly watching the 2343 02:24:14,050 --> 02:24:17,610 scene and I remember this scene where she comes back. 2344 02:24:18,650 --> 02:24:21,890 And and she's fam presenting. She's fed well, a little more 2345 02:24:21,890 --> 02:24:23,370 fam presenting. I still don't think she's like 2346 02:24:23,370 --> 02:24:24,890 not in a skirt. She's not. 2347 02:24:24,930 --> 02:24:27,610 Doesn't have a full face of makeup or anything. 2348 02:24:27,610 --> 02:24:28,810 That's true. She's. 2349 02:24:28,810 --> 02:24:32,010 Quite a nice balance. She still have short hair, but 2350 02:24:32,010 --> 02:24:34,260 it's shoulder length now. Yeah. 2351 02:24:34,660 --> 02:24:38,580 You know, it's like a nice evolution of her. 2352 02:24:38,700 --> 02:24:42,860 It seems like this is where she wanted to be over time. 2353 02:24:42,860 --> 02:24:47,220 Not only. Yeah, I I loved that that she 2354 02:24:47,220 --> 02:24:52,260 didn't come show up in a dress with heels and and all of that. 2355 02:24:52,260 --> 02:24:58,060 I loved that she found her style that still speaks to her. 2356 02:24:58,530 --> 02:25:02,290 And just the new way she wants to move through the world. 2357 02:25:02,610 --> 02:25:06,770 If you, the glow up was real. The glow up was real, yeah. 2358 02:25:06,970 --> 02:25:10,370 And the way he looked at her. Oh yeah. 2359 02:25:10,450 --> 02:25:14,970 I think the only scene that we skipped was the sex scene that 2360 02:25:14,970 --> 02:25:17,370 happened right before she left for Italy. 2361 02:25:18,210 --> 02:25:19,970 That she. Are we talking, are we talking 2362 02:25:19,970 --> 02:25:23,130 about the dream sequence or are the actual sex scene? 2363 02:25:23,130 --> 02:25:26,010 No. The actual sex scene, OK, which 2364 02:25:26,050 --> 02:25:27,410 they didn't show anything, I mean. 2365 02:25:27,920 --> 02:25:30,840 You know, it's OK, drama, but that scene where she goes over 2366 02:25:30,840 --> 02:25:33,800 to his house and he's hot and bothered, he like wants her, she 2367 02:25:33,800 --> 02:25:36,280 doesn't get it. She put his hands on her and she 2368 02:25:36,280 --> 02:25:40,320 freaked out. And that night or something she 2369 02:25:40,320 --> 02:25:44,960 calls him and she goes over late at night and he had was like put 2370 02:25:44,960 --> 02:25:48,360 the kibosh on anything coming, coming close to her and stuff 2371 02:25:48,360 --> 02:25:52,840 because he wants her and she stays over intentionally. 2372 02:25:52,840 --> 02:25:57,220 He's like, please leave. If you, if you don't leave right 2373 02:25:57,220 --> 02:26:04,380 now, I'm not sending you home. You have your face in your hands 2374 02:26:04,380 --> 02:26:11,780 because Carol, this scene is so again iconic for cock because 2375 02:26:11,780 --> 02:26:14,820 she puts her little foot in, he locks her out without her shoes. 2376 02:26:14,820 --> 02:26:17,940 She's like, I need my shoes. Whatever, open up and she puts 2377 02:26:17,940 --> 02:26:20,140 her little foot in and she puts her head in and she makes her 2378 02:26:20,140 --> 02:26:22,540 way inside And he had just warned. 2379 02:26:22,540 --> 02:26:29,370 He's like, please be warned. And boom, he like got her up 2380 02:26:29,370 --> 02:26:32,010 against the door. Whoa, whoa. 2381 02:26:32,050 --> 02:26:33,370 When he put. Her up against the door, I was 2382 02:26:33,370 --> 02:26:39,850 like, I remember screaming the first time I saw. 2383 02:26:40,170 --> 02:26:42,570 Yeah, on the second watch I wasn't screaming, but the first 2384 02:26:42,570 --> 02:26:43,970 time I watched it, I remember screaming. 2385 02:26:44,650 --> 02:26:48,890 I've never been able to watch that scene again just because I 2386 02:26:48,890 --> 02:26:50,890 can't. I can't do it because I'm just 2387 02:26:50,890 --> 02:26:54,290 like. I lose my shit. 2388 02:26:54,330 --> 02:26:59,610 Too many emotions, yeah. Yeah, I lost my shit and I lost 2389 02:26:59,610 --> 02:27:02,210 my shit now in 2023 when I rewatched it. 2390 02:27:03,410 --> 02:27:07,130 What a quality, like scene. That was a long time coming for 2391 02:27:07,130 --> 02:27:10,610 this couple and all of a sudden she got so much courage. 2392 02:27:11,050 --> 02:27:14,290 Yeah, I agree. Yeah, it was. 2393 02:27:14,930 --> 02:27:17,890 It was really good. And you could tell like she 2394 02:27:17,930 --> 02:27:25,440 didn't know what she was doing. She was like, she was like new. 2395 02:27:25,440 --> 02:27:31,120 It was her first time and so he had to take leadership. 2396 02:27:31,120 --> 02:27:36,320 But she just, you could see her moving according to what she was 2397 02:27:36,320 --> 02:27:41,520 feeling. Yeah, it wasn't all one sided. 2398 02:27:41,560 --> 02:27:43,040 I would. Say it wasn't all one sided. 2399 02:27:43,080 --> 02:27:47,880 Yeah, yeah. But before we move on, we forgot 2400 02:27:47,880 --> 02:27:49,040 something. One of my. 2401 02:27:49,700 --> 02:27:58,980 Favorite scenes ever, oh God, ever is when he calls her and 2402 02:27:58,980 --> 02:28:01,060 he's like, what are you, are you sleeping? 2403 02:28:01,220 --> 02:28:04,180 And she's like, no, he's like, can you come over? 2404 02:28:04,820 --> 02:28:07,340 And she goes over and she's sitting on the couch eating 2405 02:28:07,420 --> 02:28:10,500 chicken and he's like, how was your day? 2406 02:28:10,500 --> 02:28:13,100 And and and then she gets pissed off, like, why are you asking me 2407 02:28:13,100 --> 02:28:16,620 all these things? And finally she's like, you 2408 02:28:16,620 --> 02:28:18,020 weren't there. I kind of missed you. 2409 02:28:18,100 --> 02:28:19,660 He's like. I missed you. 2410 02:28:19,700 --> 02:28:21,980 Yeah, because he was. He was like and. 2411 02:28:22,940 --> 02:28:24,980 Yeah, exactly. Exactly. 2412 02:28:26,260 --> 02:28:33,100 That whole couch sequence was the most loving thing for me. 2413 02:28:33,180 --> 02:28:38,500 Top top three loving moments for me in the show because it was so 2414 02:28:38,500 --> 02:28:44,180 underrated. Very common to do in real life. 2415 02:28:44,890 --> 02:28:48,850 And yes, I only touched me. We were talking earlier about 2416 02:28:48,850 --> 02:28:52,530 how this show was not realistic. What's realistic is them 2417 02:28:53,530 --> 02:28:54,290 together. Yes. 2418 02:28:55,010 --> 02:28:59,450 Their scenes together, their chemistry, the way it's so easy 2419 02:28:59,450 --> 02:29:01,970 and way it's so hard sometimes for them. 2420 02:29:02,850 --> 02:29:06,010 The look on Kongyu's face when he's giddy about something that 2421 02:29:06,010 --> 02:29:08,610 she said. Or they're on the phone. 2422 02:29:09,120 --> 02:29:11,480 And she surprises him and says, I love you, I love you, I love 2423 02:29:11,480 --> 02:29:14,320 you over and over again. And he was standing on his couch 2424 02:29:14,320 --> 02:29:18,280 and he like collapses. He's like because she shakes him 2425 02:29:18,280 --> 02:29:20,160 up so much by saying I love you and. 2426 02:29:21,080 --> 02:29:24,400 Then he decides I'm gonna be petty or pissed and he's like, 2427 02:29:24,680 --> 02:29:26,960 let's not get it twisted. I love you more. 2428 02:29:27,320 --> 02:29:32,560 Hang up. That shit is what's realistic 2429 02:29:32,560 --> 02:29:35,520 and what's addicting to watch. Yeah. 2430 02:29:36,660 --> 02:29:38,620 OK, I think I've come to the end of my notes. 2431 02:29:38,620 --> 02:29:40,860 Did you have anything else you wanted to add about? 2432 02:29:40,940 --> 02:29:44,580 That was the last thing I wanted to add to this. 2433 02:29:44,580 --> 02:29:48,180 Is so much fun. I just want everyone to watch 2434 02:29:48,220 --> 02:29:49,500 the show. I do too. 2435 02:29:49,500 --> 02:29:51,500 If you haven't watched coffee prints and you've gotten this 2436 02:29:51,500 --> 02:29:54,620 far and we've spoiled it for you, please just experience it 2437 02:29:54,620 --> 02:29:58,620 for yourself. It is such a wonderful 2438 02:29:58,620 --> 02:30:02,420 experience and despite of some of the stuff that I was harping 2439 02:30:02,420 --> 02:30:05,620 on earlier, it is a top tier cave drama. 2440 02:30:05,620 --> 02:30:09,440 It is. Did so well internationally and 2441 02:30:09,440 --> 02:30:11,600 in Korea. Everybody loved it. 2442 02:30:11,680 --> 02:30:14,920 Everybody still loves it. And just watch it. 2443 02:30:15,360 --> 02:30:18,760 Just watch it. Don't let the 2007 of it, like, 2444 02:30:18,920 --> 02:30:21,960 get you, get you down. Exactly. 2445 02:30:23,200 --> 02:30:25,300 All right, Carol. Is there anything you'd like to 2446 02:30:25,300 --> 02:30:27,820 plug before we get out of here? So I know you do K dramatics, 2447 02:30:27,820 --> 02:30:32,220 you do K drama musings. Yes, please follow me on K drama 2448 02:30:32,380 --> 02:30:36,380 music, K dramas, musings. OK On Instagram. 2449 02:30:36,900 --> 02:30:41,060 I'm sure I'll plug it in somewhere on socials and tag. 2450 02:30:41,060 --> 02:30:44,580 Jessica, Jessica, thank you so much for having me back. 2451 02:30:45,500 --> 02:30:47,340 Thank you for coming on completely. 2452 02:30:47,580 --> 02:30:50,220 Enjoy myself anytime. I'm chatting with you. 2453 02:30:50,220 --> 02:30:52,820 I can't believe it's been 2 hours plus. 2454 02:30:53,120 --> 02:30:55,960 Yes, I know. And I said before we got on that 2455 02:30:55,960 --> 02:30:57,720 I'm going to cut it short. Don't worry. 2456 02:30:58,120 --> 02:31:00,080 Yeah, here we are again, 2 1/2 hour episode. 2457 02:31:00,080 --> 02:31:04,560 But hopefully people have have stuck around and listened to the 2458 02:31:04,560 --> 02:31:06,720 whole discussion and everything that we love about the. 2459 02:31:06,720 --> 02:31:11,400 Show it's it's fantastic. I'm currently hosting watch 2460 02:31:11,400 --> 02:31:17,000 parties for a King of Land on Sundays, so if you would like to 2461 02:31:17,000 --> 02:31:19,120 join to join. Nice. 2462 02:31:19,480 --> 02:31:22,020 All right, that's it. That's our show. 2463 02:31:22,300 --> 02:31:25,220 I'm Jessica and this has been the Tebaki Rainbows podcast. 2464 02:31:49,080 --> 02:32:05,840 On go, so let jabber jaw change and nada. 2465 02:32:06,920 --> 02:32:12,760 No change, nada. You sit down here, you. 2466 02:32:48,000 --> 02:33:02,520 You're so we call my while you're Edo, Kimmel, Jana again 2467 02:33:04,800 --> 02:33:06,960 there is some more head job.