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I'm Jessica and this is ATC 
presents there, but he Rambles 

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were a couple of friends review 
Korean dramas. 

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I'm here today with a special 
guest. 

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It is Nina from Kpop bookshelf. 
Hey, what's up, hey Hey, how is 

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it going? 
It's going well. 

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We were talking before we 
started recording and I am so 

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excited to have you on. 
I was telling you that I'm a 

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huge fan of your podcast that 
I've heard a bunch of episodes 

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and my favorite one actually 
it's like the most of divisive 

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one I guess. 
Is the 1982 like the feminist 

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Pros series that you did. 
It was like a series of like 

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three back-to-back podcast 
episodes and it was it like made

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me very upset, right? 
So that book. 

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Kim ji Young In 1982 was a very 
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I just found it so interesting. 
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rhetoric standards, I don't 
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crazy of a book or like 
outrageous of a book, but it 

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really hit a nerve in Korea. 
It hit a nerve and me too 

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especially because your podcast 
is so well-researched. 

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And so you were bringing in a 
lot of other stats. 

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And I was like, oh my God, I was
getting mad right? 

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Yeah, but I love your podcast 
and I'm so excited to have you 

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on. 
I Was actually a little bit 

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afraid because you're so 
soft-spoken and your podcast and

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I was like that's not my real 
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Right, right. 
We were talking before and I was

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like, oh my gosh, he's so like 
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So I was worried that you would 
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call with you but you're not 
you're amazing. 

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And again, your solo podcasting 
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I admire you so much for doing 
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I don't know if I've ever done a
solo pod before, but it's hard. 

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It's hard to keep it. 
It's hard to talk to yourself 

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and Like usually recording late 
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I'm a little bit more soft 
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it's always like 2 a.m. and I 
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So I don't want to disturb 
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yeah, I'm Hispanic. 
So I feel like I'm always 

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yelling in the mic and then 
Rico's like, you got to, you got

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to back away from the mic, like 
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pointers and I'm like, whatever 
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definitely can get very loud as 
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Yeah, it is so nice to see you 
and meet you for the first time 

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in an Effort to just get to know
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I know that some people may not 
have listened to your podcast. 

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So what is like your kdrama 
background before we jump into 

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this review that we're going to 
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Lera not be Larry. 
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So my kdrama background actually
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Dramas. 
I used to take Japanese classes 

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language classes at a Japanese 
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Japan. 
And I first started watching Jay

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dramas and I was like these are 
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I love it. 
It's like so weird because some 

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of the first ones I saw were 
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And then from, there are my 
cousins who were very big Kpop 

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bands. 
They were like, you got to get 

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into Kpop. 
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into it at all yet. 
And so then Chi from Exo is in a

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Japanese Drama. 
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Yeah. 
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I saw, I took one look at him 
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maybe I'm a mature guy is 
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Exactly. 
And I forgot the name of it now.

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It's like something about 
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But anyway, so I watched Chi and
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awareness of Who he was and then
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ready now to watch kdramas and 
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And so, I watched, you know, 
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kdramas Boys Over Flowers. 
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interesting to put it one way 
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as I think when you re-watch it 
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you're like what did I want? 
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dream. 
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but yeah so that's my kdrama 
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Of it. 
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My Odyssey. 
My mr. 

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So is that like a drama that you
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I do. 
I loved the acting in my ah, 

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just she also knows my mr. 
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funny because Boys, Over Flowers
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Dramas, I watch you're nothing 
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almost like police procedurals 
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Majesty is that but imagine 
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Very The Motions are kind of on 
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lot of a lot of talking because 
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kind of quiet people and I you 
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actor who is from parasite. 
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I just she and Majesty was so so
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And he's going like everything. 
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I mean, you would never know 
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episode for my mr. 
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been released yet like we're 
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The episode. 
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So I'm really hit a nerve for 
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And the show that we're going to
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Now is also one of those shows 
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right in the feels and the last 
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me. 
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Thank you so much for talking 
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feel like everyone is like oh 
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Oh God, what a drama. 
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So we're going to get going on 
our review of Novel era. 

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Would you want to do the honors 
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synopsis, I can read. 
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want to read it, be my guest. 
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I will read it. 
Okay, my glasses. 

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Wiki stops is shim. 
Stock tool has had a lifelong 

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dream of Performing ballet due 
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He put aside his dream of 
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worked a normal job to support 
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He is now 70 years old and 
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again. 
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learn ballet and there he meets 
each a dog. 

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Each Hook is a 23 year old man. 
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but she died from a disease when
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Eat. 
Eric learned that he has a 

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talent for ballet. 
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barely has contact with his 
father and he is a hard time 

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supporting himself financially 
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Shin duck Jewel appears in his 
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the synopsis novel era aired 
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20-21. 
So it's a pretty recent drama. 

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We are in the year 2022 right 
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because it's hard to tell this 
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16. 
Gene. 

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And it's directed by Honda quoi 
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Among other things, the show is 
written by hon and Jim in, which

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are they are. 
The writers of the webcomic. 

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This was originally a webtoon 
and then the screenwriter is he 

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on me? 
And she wrote tunnel from 2017 

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which is good to know the show 
Stars. 

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Pocking One as seemed old dog 
tool and he is a very well-known

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actor. 
He's been in the business Ever. 

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He's had. 
He has nearly 30 credits to his 

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name for just movies, and that 
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on sale from 2019, I recently 
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time, it's on Amazon Prime right
now, really? 

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Yes. 
He's, it's a zombie movie, but 

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it's a comedy. 
So definitely give it a watch. 

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It's funny. 
And he's also in Miss Granny 

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from 2014. 
Also, very funny. 

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I think that's on Netflix right 
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He has nearly 40 credits to His 
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beautiful from this year, this 
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and then School 2021. 
He's also in that show song 

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plays each attic and he is kind 
of well known now for being an 

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IT guy, I would say and he was 
first seen in the liar and his 

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lover that was like his breakout
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And then he went on to do love, 
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Netflix. 
I personally Not recommend. 

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Love alarm. 
Only did I? 

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Yeah I did not like levels are, 
did you like love wrong? 

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Did you see have it on my list? 
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SLI have gotten to it yet. 
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that. 
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love alarm. 
He was in Sweet Home which is 

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also a Netflix original in 2020 
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kdrama. 
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in 2021 and he's currently in 
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Love and weather with Park Min 
Young and the it's coming out. 

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This year's current Currently 
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recording. 
I think he's the Netflix guy 

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now. 
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Yeah because he's been in a ton 
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They just keep casting him. 
Don't they call him? 

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Like the prince of Netflix or 
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I was everything. 
Yeah, I saw that, that makes a 

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lot. 
Like, I don't know who calls him

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that but somewhat I saw it here 
and there that they call him, 

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the prince of Netflix, I believe
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And there's like the sun maybe. 
Oh, where folks is something 

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that's something like that. 
Yeah, he keeps getting cast an 

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F. 
Originals and good for him. 

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I mean good for him. 
Did you like the show after all 

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has all this has been said, the 
housekeeping's out of the way, 

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we know the cast and everyone 
behind the scenes. 

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What did you think of never 
Lera? 

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Checking my reading now? 
Or should I just oh oh you can 

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give your rating now if you want
to out of yet, what would you 

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give a shout out of five Soldier
bottles and like, why? 

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Why would you give it? 
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Okay. 
So I would give it only A A3 

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which is I think a low-balling a
little bit, but that's because I

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loved like the potential of the 
show and I don't think it ever 

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quite got to a certain point 
where I could get where I could 

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give it a file, I could see it 
being a 5 if that makes any 

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sense. 
But some of the things I didn't 

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like about it was like so many 
little individual character pot 

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lines but there was left a lot 
of like really undeveloped. 

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They didn't really delve into 
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establish. 
Like how do these people? 

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Why do these people care about 
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Why should I Care about them and
when they did manage to say some

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things about the characters I 
feel like it was really late in 

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the season, do the show. 
Yeah so that's why I give it 3 

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Soju bottles but I feel like 
they have a remake this or 

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something which probably never 
happen or if there's like 

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another countries like a 
Japanese or someone remakes that

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maybe it would be better. 
Wow. 

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Okay. 
So I didn't expect you to I mean

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yeah you kind of said that you 
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probably give it three and a 
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if I'm being generous but I 
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a three-and-a-half Soju bottles 
and basically, I thought that it

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could have been shorter. 
I could have been probably Eight

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Episodes versus 12 episodes. 
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that could have been trimmed. 
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disagree with when you say that 
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more development because I feel 
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a lot of arc's like were they 
did were completed High bunch of

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things. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
Which is Nice. 

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song Kong's character and in 
one's character is so beautiful 

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that beautiful. 
It covers a lot of sins. 

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and like it, that's why I say 
like they were so much potential

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but they end and like you were 
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longer for like what it really 
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And some of the characters there
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I was like I don't care about 
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Why are we dwelling on? 
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And then there was other 
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I was like, where is more of 
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Like where are they coming from?
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It was a little bit of a 
double-edged thing. 

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cinematography was absolutely 

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stunning. 
That's a major Plus for the 

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show, I would say that they're 
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quotable lines in this was like 
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Like you're just overwhelmed by 
the amount of nuggets out there.

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Throwing at you left. 
And right. 

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Yes. 
Honestly, it's or we need to 

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support her. 
Guy that yeah, well, we can talk

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about that too in the spoilers 
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mildly in love with the family 
and I thought that I would be 

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very in love with the family. 
Like there's other kdrama 

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families that you're like, I 
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crew, they're so mesmerizing to 
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I'm a part of their family 
watching them for 16 hours or 

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what-have-you. 
Makes me feel like I'm in this 

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drama with them. 
I'm feeling their emotions. 

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Ins and to a certain extent I 
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of the actual heart emoji, then 
I was like anybody else on the 

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show so when they were all 
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organic but not necessarily 
what's the word. 

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I didn't want to, like returned 
to them. 

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Okay, well, I mean, that's what 
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relationships with horrible G 
and like his granddaughter had a

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budgie and certain other. 
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Adult children like those are 
interesting but when the house 

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was completely full, even though
I do feel like I had they had 

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chemistry is like a store. 
They had chemistry as a family 

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on TV family. 
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just like the wonder why I was 
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their her kids are like two 
tokens heart emoji. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah I found that poor. 

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Is of the show hit too close to 
home for me and they felt like I

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was watching. 
The saddest thing I've ever 

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watched, yes, I don't want to 
give anything away in spoilers, 

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but I've had certain family 
members go through the same 

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thing that this main character 
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caregiver in a lot of instances,
I feel like this family was 

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going through the stages of 
grief. 

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Yes. 
And they were going on a really 

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strong heavy. 
Be emotional Journey that wasn't

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quite portrayed as well as it 
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There were certain scenes where 
I was like, this is very 

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accurate. 
I was like bawling but then 

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other scenes I was like we could
extend this like I don't know. 

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It just seemed like it was too 
much and not enough. 

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At the same time, I definitely 
can see that because I feel like

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they were kind of going with the
with this assumption that a lot 

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of the audience would kind of 
figure out the you know. 

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Oh yeah the situation trying to 
Yeah. 

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You know and and I don't know 
that everybody does necessarily 

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really understand like what 
exactly exactly that's exactly 

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what I'm trying to say is that 
there's a lot of implications 

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and underlying things like 
consequences I would say is a 

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good word for what hot emojis 
doing and like what what his 

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diagnosis means right. 
And I'm not sure that they 

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really kind of cover the gravity
of like what is happening and 

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Like the family how they're 
processing it like they're 

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throwing ideas out like how do 
we deal with this and I'm like 

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you don't get it. 
I will say this is going to 

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sound harsh or something, but I 
feel like they spent too much 

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time on ballet. 
Okay, no, because I felt like 

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they were gonna get so 
defensive, don't know. 

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Getting the one seen her. 
Like, I felt like I was just one

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scene that they filmed ones and 
they kept showing it over and 

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over again, which is Loom the 
body, double in the, in the 

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practice room, like, doing like 
pirouettes, sir. 

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I don't know the ballet terms, 
but right, he's doing all this 

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stuff. 
Which looked cool. 

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The first like few times within 
the cap. 

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I swear it seem like they're 
either just doing the exact same

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camera and yeah, playing the 
same footage. 

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I agree with you, we caught that
down a little bit. 

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We could have dealt more and 
just like what you were talking 

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about with the diagnosis or the 
families like struggle about 

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like how do we deal with this? 
How do we handle this? 

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I agree. 
Completely knowing that. 

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Yeah, they kept reusing it felt 
like they were reusing footage 

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in. 
You're right. 

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The ballet sequences of first, I
was like, oh, they're doing this

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really well and I was like, 
they're not doing this well at 

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all because the cut that was so 
abrupt. 

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Right? 
Like there was either they were 

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shown Um, the waist up or they 
were shown way far away like in 

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Shadow and you can tell that 
that's obviously not them. 

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Yeah, it's not out of a g and 
it's not song kong doing the 

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ballet. 
So it's annoying. 

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It's annoying because it's, it 
was distracting. 

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It was like, yeah, I was like, I
want to see their faces now. 

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These talented, lovely dancers. 
Yes, especially especially in 

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the finale. 
I was like, okay, maybe this is 

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their time to really showcase 
They can do what these actors 

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have learned over the course of 
12 episodes. 

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I know that they've probably 
been training behind the scenes 

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and actually song spent five to 
six months, training ballet 

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before they started filming. 
So I'm like, okay, they're going

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to Showcase these people and 
we're gets going to be evident 

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that, it's the actors doing this
belly. 

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Not the case. 
By the way, I have a fun fact 

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about song Kong from mnozil 
researching for this episode. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah his father is a door was a 

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gymnast o fact for you all. 
I wish I had those yeah relevant

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because he mentioned in some 
interviews just like how he was 

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worried about trying to do 
ballet and whether he'd be good 

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at everything he would look good
or like just looked look really 

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bad or like it'd just be a 
complete fail and then he talked

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it was revealed, I guess that 
his father was a gymnast in the 

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past and I don't know, like, 
what level of gymnic gymnastics 

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they were, you know, he was 
doing but song kong was able to 

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kind of talk about it with his 
dad. 

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Like, you know, right. 
That's good. 

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Yeah, no, I didn't know that and
there's a certain level of 

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athleticism that comes with just
watching song, do ballet, or 

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attempt to do ballet because I 
couldn't see if he was really 

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doing ballet, most of the time, 
but I think that he pulled it 

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off pretty well and I just wish 
that they had given them, the 

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given them performance, the time
that it should have been given 

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or the way That it should have 
been filmed. 

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Should have been different. 
What's an example of like Oh 

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Black Swan is a great movie, 
that has body doubles but you 

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know, they use CGI and all this 
stuff to put Natalie Portman's 

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face onto the ballerinas face. 
And of course, Natalie Portman 

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like songs, spend months 
learning ballet and getting the 

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forms, right? 
So that it could be as seamless 

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as possible. 
That's a movie that I feel could

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have been an inspiration for the
way that this was shot. 

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That not Alaric could have been 
shot. 

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I'm going to age myself and 
Shout out another ballet movie, 

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which is Center Stage, which 
came out like in maybe 2002 or 

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something, but they and it it 
featured actual ballerinas and 

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Mallory nose. 
So it's little bit different in 

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terms of how to film it. 
But how to film The Dancing? 

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I agree because like, there's a 
way I felt watching Center Stage

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that it was so exciting. 
It was so like you got like, how

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Cutthroat is the ballet like 
fields or like how like intense 

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everything as Nothing is just 
like whatever, it's like life or

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death, for all the dancers, and 
for some Kong's character to 

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talk. 
You do feel like it's life or 

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death for him, but he is like 
these other survival struggles. 

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Anyway, but in Center Stage, it 
was just like, wow, this is this

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is like good dance versus, this 
is bad dance. 

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And this is like amazingly hard 
versus you ever watch like 

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Project Runway and used like 
starch or something like that 

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and you're like oh that Stitch 
is wrong or like oh right. 

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Right. 
This is like suddenly like an 

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expert in fashion or whatever or
like enough clothing 

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manufacturing. 
So Got that sense from like 

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Center Stage which was kind of a
corny movie, but like, I loved 

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it when I was younger and I was 
hoping I'd be there. 

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I would kind of inspire these 
feelings of me about dance. 

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I also only be really passionate
dance, I want to take ballet 

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lessons and I didn't feel like 
that partially because it's 

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like, recycled footage or 
whatever was going on. 

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I don't know what that one. 
Yeah. 

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But Tara, I song Gangnam, I'm 
like, honey bees character James

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Hong Kong. 
Did do I thought a good job of 

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like, at least giving off 
ballarino Vibes, right? 

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However, much dancing, he 
actually did pain on the 

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footage. 
So yeah, I don't think that 

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maybe the filmmakers, or sorry, 
those showrunners weren't as 

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comfortable with showing the 
actors from the waist down. 

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And maybe I'm not going to throw
this out there. 

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Is it because they were in 
Tights? 

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No, I actually think, Balor from
what I know. 

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And again, a lot of ideas from 
Center Signature than box, one 

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is that the footwork and stuff 
is, has to be so precise. 

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Yes. 
From like a ballet, like to be 

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his level of a ballarino. 
He would have to be nailing the 

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footwork and I don't know who 
they hired to have a bunch of 

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time to be on a drama as like a 
body double and do these kinds 

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of scenes. 
But I mean, it probably wasn't 

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like the principal ballarino of 
whatever Korean, you know, dance

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company. 
So that's my thing. 

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They just were trying to 
downplay any kind of technical 

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critique, they might have gotten
from the dance Community. 

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If that's a thing, I kind of 
agree, it might be. 

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So I think that's why the kind 
of I was thinking more like, oh,

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it's a protector like dignity, 
because they'd be in Tights, 

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but, yeah, I agree. 
We that they're not good enough,

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get a double but at the same 
time it was it was like 

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Flashdance level. 
Like it's like okay, that's a 

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man dressed as a woman and I'm 
like well that's doing slashing.

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Watching the seen so many times 
are scenes of them practicing in

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the practice room. 
So felt monotonous repetitive 

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recycled. 
Yes boring and maybe dance with 

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boring like why? 
So right I agree. 

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That's a major complaint of 
mine. 

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Did you have any other major 
complaints that you? 

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Need to talk about generally 
before we get into spoilers. 

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Um, well without giving 
spoilers, I did think the 

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characters were so this is just 
me maybe but the catcher so 

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confusing. 
Like I didn't understand why the

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Magna a doctor was not. 
They his youngest son was like 

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this depressed, former doctor 
like what was his whole deal and

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then I and I we finally got some
of that way way later like, what

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it was, what his deal was. 
Yeah. 

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Or like, you know, I felt like 
the daughter's husband was seen 

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as like a kind of a loser 
because he didn't go to college.

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College and I was like, why are 
we care about this again? 

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Like I know why? 
But like, why why does this 

450
00:23:03,300 --> 00:23:06,900
family care that much about this
or the bully? 

451
00:23:06,900 --> 00:23:10,500
There's like a bully, not just 
boiler anything but the bullies 

452
00:23:10,500 --> 00:23:13,700
whole dilemma with. 
Oh yeah, that was bullshit. 

453
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,700
That was bullshit. 
Like what is this? 

454
00:23:15,700 --> 00:23:19,000
Yeah happening like anyway so 
that's my biggest complaint was 

455
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,300
like everything took too long to
develop and then some of these 

456
00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:23,600
didn't get like as developed as 
I would have liked to have seen 

457
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,700
it so yeah, true true. 
Okay. 

458
00:23:25,700 --> 00:23:28,900
I agree with you completely. 
And at this point, I think we're

459
00:23:28,900 --> 00:23:33,000
just gonna get Into spoilers. 
So if you don't care to be 

460
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,400
spoiled, keep listening. 
But if you haven't watched now 

461
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,300
Valera, I would suggest you go 
watch it and then come back and 

462
00:23:38,308 --> 00:23:41,300
listen to her spoiler talk. 
So we're gonna get started on 

463
00:23:41,300 --> 00:23:51,400
spoilers right after this, you 
want to come in. 

464
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,200
Okay, so we're on the other side
of spoilers for Navi Lera. 

465
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,100
And we're going to talk through 
all of the things that probably 

466
00:23:58,700 --> 00:24:02,400
we didn't like, Like so you 
mentioned the the Magna a 

467
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,600
character who is the youngest 
son of our heart emoji? 

468
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:11,700
And he was like a surgeon and 
gave up his whole career for 

469
00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:14,700
what? 
Like I got it kind of at the 

470
00:24:14,700 --> 00:24:20,200
beginning when he was like kept 
wearing the, the clogs, the 

471
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,500
Crocs, that's what they are. 
He kept wearing Crocs, and it 

472
00:24:22,500 --> 00:24:26,100
was like the middle of winter 
and he's wearing Crocs and it 

473
00:24:26,100 --> 00:24:29,500
was to remind him of the blood 
that fell. 

474
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,800
On the Crocs. 
During one of his last 

475
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:37,200
surgeries, he lost a patient and
he was saying, oh, I already 

476
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:42,300
like said his time of death, but
his blood was still falling on 

477
00:24:42,300 --> 00:24:45,500
my shoes and I it was warm his 
blood was still warm. 

478
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,800
Yeah, it sounded like he had a 
botched surgery and that's why 

479
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,000
it correct me if I'm wrong. 
And that's why he quit the field

480
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,200
of medicine entirely which like 
bro you're going to be a doctor 

481
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,200
like that's going to happen. 
I wish they said, I know I know 

482
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,100
first of all I know Oh, you 
should be Jaded by now because 

483
00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:04,600
your you cannot save 100% of 
your patients. 

484
00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:07,900
Unfortunately, unfortunately. 
And that's very, very sad 

485
00:25:07,900 --> 00:25:10,800
reality. 
And I guess he kind of hit up 

486
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:15,400
against this wall in his mind 
and heart where he was feeling 

487
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,500
hopeless. 
And I think they should have 

488
00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:20,700
said that a little bit better in
the dialogue. 

489
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,800
Maybe they, he had a personal 
like not an actual personal 

490
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,100
connection to this. 
The patient he has to wait, 

491
00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:27,500
mate, but maybe he saw something
in him. 

492
00:25:27,500 --> 00:25:29,200
Like oh my gosh, this guys, my 
age are. 

493
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,000
Oh my Just persons a brother and
a father or whatever. 

494
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,000
This person is living so amazing
life. 

495
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,700
Or they did gave us nothing 
about why he cares so much about

496
00:25:36,700 --> 00:25:39,000
this patient. 
And I was I thought that was 

497
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,600
like why is he this depressed? 
It just didn't make sense. 

498
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,100
It didn't make sense that he 
wanted to do a whole documentary

499
00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:48,600
on the patient and the patient's
that he lost which seemed like a

500
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,400
terrible thing to do. 
Like I'm like are you thinking 

501
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,600
this through? 
You don't think that. 

502
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,500
That's there's going to be a bit
of a backlash from the family or

503
00:25:56,500 --> 00:25:59,300
the friends from these deceased 
patients. 

504
00:25:59,500 --> 00:26:01,400
Like he didn't, like think if 
they're, he thought he was gonna

505
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,500
doing a good thing, or maybe 
just, it was so selfish almost 

506
00:26:05,500 --> 00:26:07,400
for him to, like, go poking at 
this. 

507
00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:10,500
Well, because he obviously had 
unanswered questions, but we 

508
00:26:10,500 --> 00:26:12,900
don't know what they were. 
We had no reason to like yeah, 

509
00:26:12,900 --> 00:26:14,400
or like, why? 
Why are you making a 

510
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,300
documentary? 
Just seems so random and I 

511
00:26:16,300 --> 00:26:18,400
thought. 
Okay, go, go over it in going 

512
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,100
National say even wearing the 
Crocs. 

513
00:26:20,300 --> 00:26:21,000
Okay. 
Yes, yes. 

514
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,200
The blood was a warm but like it
takes, I don't know. 

515
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,400
The whole thing is like if you 
work for any amount of time and 

516
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,400
around a hospital it's like not 
that deep not to be. 

517
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,900
About it, but just like blood 
gets cold. 

518
00:26:31,900 --> 00:26:35,200
After someone dies, you have to 
go around wearing those Crocs 

519
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:35,900
forever. 
I don't know. 

520
00:26:35,908 --> 00:26:38,600
Like, they try to make it more 
sentimental than it was. 

521
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,100
And I think if you're, if you've
ever seen someone who's gone 

522
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:43,200
through medical school and 
training or if you've been 

523
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,600
someone who's gone through out 
of school training, like this is

524
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,800
not your first death. 
It's not probably not your first

525
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,600
death at your hate video by your
hand almost, you wouldn't get 

526
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,200
this worked up unless you're 
like, oh my gosh, this was my 

527
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,400
brother, right? 
Oh my gosh, this is my best 

528
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,100
friend. 
Yeah, there has to be a certain 

529
00:26:57,100 --> 00:26:59,700
level of professionalism and 
even though Or in a 

530
00:26:59,708 --> 00:27:03,500
life-or-death situation and 
people are depending on you, you

531
00:27:03,900 --> 00:27:06,800
this is your job. 
You do this day in and day out 

532
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,600
and sure it gets to you. 
But like do you quit your entire

533
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,100
career over it? 
It didn't seem like there was 

534
00:27:12,100 --> 00:27:15,100
enough for him to dislike the 
job. 

535
00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:18,200
Like maybe he didn't. 
I'm I'm in my mind. 

536
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,900
This was I was bored. 
I was thinking was that he was a

537
00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:25,600
closeted creative and that he 
wanted to be in a more creative 

538
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,600
job and so he chose documentary 
I was I was He's a filmmaker 

539
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,100
like he wants to be in that 
field versus in the medical 

540
00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:35,600
field. 
So it was never a good fit for 

541
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,800
him. 
Not the case at all. 

542
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,500
Like I made up this whole story 
in my head. 

543
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,000
No he was not say cuz that was 
kind of where or what? 

544
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,000
I thought were the I thought I 
was going to wear like his you 

545
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,300
kind of became a doctor to 
satisfy his parents and deal, 

546
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,200
but then he kept going to visit 
his former doctor colleagues and

547
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,900
friends and he was like honestly
at the hospital. 

548
00:27:53,900 --> 00:27:54,800
Yes. 
Ali. 

549
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,700
And he was never actually making
almost never actually making a 

550
00:27:57,700 --> 00:27:59,300
documentary except for like a 
couple steps. 

551
00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:01,900
You made her like Scout a 
location and he, you know, had 

552
00:28:01,900 --> 00:28:03,700
some cameras or whatever, then 
he finally started doing other 

553
00:28:03,700 --> 00:28:06,400
documentary. 
So I was like, I do not get this

554
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,900
and not to, you know, she many 
ones, whatever mixed feelings 

555
00:28:09,900 --> 00:28:12,700
depression, trauma, whatever you
going on, but I wish they would 

556
00:28:12,700 --> 00:28:14,600
have shared it with us. 
Have been like when he, you 

557
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,600
know, when he was younger, he 
wished he did this and he felt 

558
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,400
if like a failure. 
What was it? 

559
00:28:18,408 --> 00:28:19,400
That was so bad. 
Right? 

560
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,900
Was he feel like he failed to 
feel like he left something 

561
00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:24,900
down, himself down, it just made
no sense. 

562
00:28:24,900 --> 00:28:27,900
Real sense. 
Ultimately, yes, were we agree 

563
00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:31,400
on that? 
We can talk About the son-in-law

564
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,800
character, who was, like trying 
to be a politician, who's like a

565
00:28:33,808 --> 00:28:37,900
wannabe politician, trying to go
for like local government? 

566
00:28:37,900 --> 00:28:42,800
And to me, that was kind of a 
poop storyline because it was 

567
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,900
very, it was very 
unsatisfactory. 

568
00:28:45,900 --> 00:28:49,700
The guy didn't win his election,
he you seem to be a burden on 

569
00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:52,200
his wife, who was very 
frustrated with him. 

570
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,600
Kept saying like, oh I don't 
know about this and kept like 

571
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,300
just looking down upon him and 
not necessarily because he 

572
00:28:58,300 --> 00:29:00,800
didn't have a college education.
Asian but because he didn't have

573
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:05,000
any, he didn't have any 
realistic goals and he didn't 

574
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,100
have a wishy-washy was 
wishy-washy and just needed a 

575
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:14,400
lot of confidence boosting and 
then he wasn't good at anything 

576
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,300
he did. 
So like at that point like you 

577
00:29:16,300 --> 00:29:17,700
should probably switch to 
something else. 

578
00:29:17,700 --> 00:29:19,900
It seemed like they were in debt
all the time. 

579
00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:25,100
The mom, the mom character hajis
wife kept giving her money like 

580
00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:28,100
they were struggling. 
Yeah. 

581
00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:31,000
And also it was interesting 
because the I felt like towards 

582
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,400
the end finally if the husband 
redeem that sounds horrible, 

583
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,400
redeemed himself because he went
hard but she's facing his 

584
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,100
diagnosis. 
Everything he was the one who's 

585
00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:41,700
like we can take care of him. 
We can manage this. 

586
00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:43,700
If you're my family, I'm your 
son too. 

587
00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:45,900
Yeah and it's sort of like 
painted the thinks. 

588
00:29:45,900 --> 00:29:48,000
I felt like in the beginning 
they were pinning had a bunny 

589
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,300
the grandma to be like someone 
who was so hung up on maybe 

590
00:29:51,300 --> 00:29:54,000
status or like just never wanted
to be like struggling with money

591
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:54,600
again. 
Yeah. 

592
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,200
Want our kids to be super 
settled successful etcetera. 

593
00:29:57,700 --> 00:30:00,500
And he wasn't like helping her 
daughter to achieve that. 

594
00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:03,200
But then he was like, look, I'm 
family like we're a family and 

595
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,300
so it's not always about, I 
think it's like a reminder of 

596
00:30:05,300 --> 00:30:08,800
like it's always about status or
position in Life or, you know, 

597
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,400
whether or not you're you can 
make decisions. 

598
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,400
It's also just about being 
reliable family member. 

599
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,000
Yeah, I agree with that. 
That was something that I wish I

600
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,800
would have touched on more, is 
that there was a weird dichotomy

601
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,300
between the spouses that married
into the family and then the 

602
00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:27,000
Sons and Daughters of how to 
Boogie. 

603
00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:30,600
And that they seem to be like 
second class has since within 

604
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,300
the family, like they didn't 
have any say they were voicing 

605
00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:35,200
their opinions and like the 
other siblings are like you 

606
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,000
can't say anything, you're not 
even, you're not even part of 

607
00:30:37,008 --> 00:30:41,400
the family which out of line. 
They should have been slapped 

608
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,900
years ago. 
Like the, you can tell these are

609
00:30:42,900 --> 00:30:45,400
like old married couples have 
been married for like over a 

610
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,300
decade and still like the oil. 
They both were like, yeah, I'll 

611
00:30:49,300 --> 00:30:50,700
take him in. 
Well, do whatever. 

612
00:30:50,700 --> 00:30:53,500
Like will drop everything and I 
was like, why are you again? 

613
00:30:53,500 --> 00:30:57,100
The like lack of like explaining
motivations or people's like, 

614
00:30:57,300 --> 00:30:59,500
Whatever like yeah, why are you 
doing this? 

615
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,600
They didn't. 
It's not like we saw, how do I 

616
00:31:01,608 --> 00:31:04,800
would be super close to either 
of those children in law because

617
00:31:04,900 --> 00:31:06,900
it just wasn't within the scope 
of this drama? 

618
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,300
Yeah, probably was something, 
but we didn't see it. 

619
00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:15,400
I think that they showcased the 
spouses being taken care of by 

620
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:21,500
the hot Emoji, especially with 
the wife of the oldest son, who 

621
00:31:21,900 --> 00:31:24,500
supported how to achieve when he
came out and said he wanted to 

622
00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:27,100
do badly, she was 
unconditionally support. 

623
00:31:27,300 --> 00:31:30,100
Of him. 
And they did a flashback of her 

624
00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:33,800
as a new mom. 
And she was struggling, she was 

625
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,300
struggling to find her identity 
as a new mom, she struggled 

626
00:31:37,300 --> 00:31:40,900
because she wanted to go back to
working full-time and her 

627
00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:43,200
husband was like relegating her 
to the house, and being a 

628
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,000
full-time mom. 
And so she was like, he 

629
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,600
supported me during that. 
I know that you came to the 

630
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,800
house and were taking care of 
your granddaughter. 

631
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,800
While I was struggling at 
talking through my issues with 

632
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,000
my mom. 
On the phone and it seemed like 

633
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,600
that was so profound to her. 
And it left such a mark on her 

634
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,600
that she was like, I'll your, 
you're mine, I'm yours and I'm 

635
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,800
gonna support you. 
I didn't feel like there was 

636
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,200
that closeness with the husband,
the politician husband, right? 

637
00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:18,300
It's social cause he got dragged
on so much by G but like 

638
00:32:18,300 --> 00:32:19,700
everybody else. 
Yeah. 

639
00:32:20,300 --> 00:32:24,700
But his wife which was stirred 
daughter had this profound 

640
00:32:24,700 --> 00:32:27,100
amazing, emotional moment in the
final episode. 

641
00:32:27,300 --> 00:32:32,700
Or she cries, and begs her. 
Dad, not to go into the nursing 

642
00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:34,400
home, and let them take care of 
him. 

643
00:32:34,500 --> 00:32:37,800
Let her take care of him. 
She was going through this whole

644
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,100
infertility crisis throughout 
her married life and they never 

645
00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:46,000
were able to have children. 
It's a huge emotion emotional 

646
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,700
Journey that kind of came to an 
end during the show where she 

647
00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:51,700
said I'm giving up like a can't,
I can't kiss. 

648
00:32:51,700 --> 00:32:54,900
Wondered like she was giving up.
Anyways, on trying to pursue 

649
00:32:54,900 --> 00:32:58,100
this building a family, at least
your biological Yeah, and when 

650
00:32:58,100 --> 00:33:01,500
she found out about hot emojis 
diagnosis, I almost feel like 

651
00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:03,400
maybe they're trying to tell us 
and it could just be me like, 

652
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,500
making this up, but maybe 
they're trying to us that she 

653
00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:08,100
found a purpose, like the 
purpose or whatever role. 

654
00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:10,500
Like, having a child would have 
filled in her life, or whatever.

655
00:33:10,700 --> 00:33:12,500
Fulfillment, that would have 
give brought her now. 

656
00:33:12,500 --> 00:33:14,600
She was kind of channeling that 
into taking care of her father. 

657
00:33:14,700 --> 00:33:17,900
Exactly. 
Yeah, she basically said instead

658
00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:22,000
of paying it forward with her 
own children, she'd pay him back

659
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,500
for all the kindness and care 
that he showed her growing up 

660
00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:27,100
and she cited. 
This one thing of he always 

661
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,600
Picked her up from school. 
Whenever it rained we just like 

662
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,700
I was crying. 
I was crying. 

663
00:33:32,700 --> 00:33:37,200
I was emotional. 
It was a I personally my 

664
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,500
grandfather passed away many 
years ago, but he also had 

665
00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:44,800
Alzheimer's and he died 
basically bedridden and of 

666
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:49,900
Alzheimer's, like his body, just
shut down and the fact that she 

667
00:33:49,900 --> 00:33:53,000
cited that he came to get her 
from school and it was a rate 

668
00:33:53,100 --> 00:33:56,200
whenever it rained, he was, is 
such a subtle thing. 

669
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,700
But my grandfather used to pick 
me up from school every day. 

670
00:34:00,500 --> 00:34:05,100
Yeah so it was like oh just like
gut-wrenching, it hit me right 

671
00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:08,100
in the feels because it was so 
close to home. 

672
00:34:08,699 --> 00:34:10,800
You know, when she was like, 
please don't do this. 

673
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:15,000
And at this point, I mean, I 
guess you can kind of, if you 

674
00:34:15,300 --> 00:34:18,500
are sticking around and you 
haven't watched novel, are you 

675
00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:22,900
can kind of guess that like the 
heart emoji has Alzheimer's. 

676
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,100
He's in the early speech in the 
early stages of Alzheimer's. 

677
00:34:26,100 --> 00:34:31,699
Which you I knew immediately 
like when He got lost the first 

678
00:34:31,699 --> 00:34:34,100
time. 
We got lost in the museum. 

679
00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:36,300
I was like, so some kind of 
cognitive decline. 

680
00:34:36,300 --> 00:34:39,900
Yes, I was like oh no he's got 
Alzheimer's or he's got 

681
00:34:39,900 --> 00:34:41,199
dementia. 
Yeah. 

682
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,500
The earlier on I kind of was 
guessing like it was like a 

683
00:34:43,507 --> 00:34:45,400
terminal illness. 
Like yes, sir. 

684
00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:47,000
Yes. 
And then when he like you said, 

685
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,900
when you start getting lost or 
having these like confusion 

686
00:34:48,900 --> 00:34:51,199
moment, you're like, oh, it's 
something like dementia. 

687
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,199
I'm gonna take a little minute 
to talk to you about Alzheimer's

688
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:56,500
and cry because I looked up at, 
yes, absolutely tell her. 

689
00:34:56,500 --> 00:35:01,700
Yeah, so Korea is as you already
probably No population where a 

690
00:35:01,700 --> 00:35:05,500
lot of the people are aging just
like Japan for example, and it's

691
00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:08,500
the fastest aging country among 
the organization for economic 

692
00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:11,700
cooperation and development also
known as oecd countries. 

693
00:35:12,500 --> 00:35:15,300
This is something I'm quoting, 
by the way, from a medical 

694
00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:17,400
journal called the annals of 
geriatric, medicine and 

695
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,500
research. 
So projects with projection, 

696
00:35:19,500 --> 00:35:22,400
showing it possibly becoming the
country with the highest number 

697
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,700
of older people in 2075. 
So, it's a very big concern in 

698
00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:27,900
Korea just like, how to do elder
care. 

699
00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:30,500
It's also a country, where not a
lot of Of children are being 

700
00:35:30,500 --> 00:35:33,600
born or so, there's this, this 
fear of like, in the future 

701
00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:36,500
Society, won't be able to 
sustain or support their elderly

702
00:35:36,500 --> 00:35:39,600
population. 
And in fact, an article that I 

703
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,400
read that interviewed Park in 
Han the gentleman who played 

704
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,300
Hadji he himself said, one out 
of four people in Korea are 

705
00:35:47,300 --> 00:35:49,200
seniors. 
That's how many seniors there 

706
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,800
are now, dramas, films and plays
are all works, that reflect on 

707
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,600
contemporary Society. 
I hope that subjects become more

708
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,200
Diversified such as care 
facilities or nursing homes. 

709
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,700
So, I think he means like film 
the subject On such a place, 

710
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,100
maybe they'll take place in, you
know, they can't be, uh, 

711
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:07,000
neglected population. 
So and all timers in general is 

712
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,700
just such a devastating 
diagnosis to get. 

713
00:36:09,700 --> 00:36:12,300
And I'm also going to just 
randomly say this here, that I 

714
00:36:12,308 --> 00:36:16,600
thought it was interesting that 
as soon as chaddock realized 

715
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,700
that Hadji had Alzheimer's, he 
was so devastated and I was 

716
00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:24,600
like, I wonder if it's super 
realistic to think not to rain 

717
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,300
on this parade that it's 20, 
however, your old would like 

718
00:36:27,300 --> 00:36:31,200
realize the gravity of this Hmm.
I wow. 

719
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:36,000
That's a, that's a good point is
that I don't think I this is 

720
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,400
hard because I my grandfather 
got Alzheimer's and I think I 

721
00:36:39,408 --> 00:36:43,800
was in my late teens and I 
didn't think, I mean, I was 

722
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,500
like, oh yeah, he's going to 
forget stuff but like, as soon 

723
00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:49,000
as I had to start coming over 
and changing his diaper, like, 

724
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,000
if things could totally change. 
I was like, oh no, this is like 

725
00:36:53,100 --> 00:36:58,200
a real. 
Debilitating disease, like, in 

726
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,800
his case, he really, I mean, it 
was a decline but it wasn't as 

727
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:08,800
rapid as other family members 
who also have been diagnosed 

728
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:13,800
with Alzheimer's. 
So, I for a 23 year, olds 

729
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,700
understand the gravity of the 
situation and think that it's a 

730
00:37:16,700 --> 00:37:19,800
terminal illness because it it 
is a term to me, it is a 

731
00:37:19,808 --> 00:37:22,000
terminal illness. 
Like your might not have died 

732
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,800
from Alzheimer's, but you're 
going to forget how to hold a 

733
00:37:23,808 --> 00:37:25,400
spoon. 
You're going to forget your 

734
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,200
family members. 
You there was a sense of loss 

735
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,700
before the death actually occurs
arising cause of death in Korea,

736
00:37:32,700 --> 00:37:35,800
when it's getting into the top 
10 causes of death. 

737
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,000
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

738
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:41,500
I a lot of people just don't 
understand like I've talked to 

739
00:37:41,500 --> 00:37:44,900
friends and other family members
who never had to go through it 

740
00:37:44,900 --> 00:37:48,500
directly and like they don't 
understand it's like oh they 

741
00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:51,100
forget stuff for they repeat 
themselves, like, you know, just

742
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:53,200
play along with whatever they're
saying is like no, you don't 

743
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,000
understand so much more 
devastating. 

744
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,500
Yes, it's not just that and I 
and chaddock it was obvious 

745
00:37:59,500 --> 00:38:02,200
didn't have like a ton of family
members so did he have personal 

746
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,500
experience? 
You know someone again it's like

747
00:38:04,500 --> 00:38:07,600
another thing of this drama not 
giving us a ton of information 

748
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,800
like back early and work with 
that but he That this was like 

749
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,800
such bad news for hydrology and 
he felt so bad for her money and

750
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,500
her head was his grand daughter.
Who was kind of friends would 

751
00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:20,800
like it was just he realized the
gravity but is that like 

752
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:21,600
realistic? 
I don't know. 

753
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:26,600
I agree, I agree that didn't 
seem realistic to me. 

754
00:38:26,700 --> 00:38:30,200
I mean, it seem realistic to me 
as an audience member because 

755
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,800
I'm like, oh God. 
Yeah. 

756
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:38,000
Like that's say goodbye because 
it's really, it'll take, I don't

757
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,700
know, say it's going to take its
time, but the progression is Is 

758
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,000
difficult to Grapple with as a 
caregiver. 

759
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,700
Think it's so unpredictable. 
So, like exactly. 

760
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,800
And he seemed very kind of shook
about it. 

761
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,200
Like, oh my gosh, how did what 
she has Alzheimer's? 

762
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,800
He was like struggling, like how
do I break this news to anyone 

763
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,900
else in the family? 
Or should I break it this news 

764
00:38:55,900 --> 00:38:58,700
or like it's his news to give he
was going through the struggle? 

765
00:38:58,700 --> 00:39:00,600
Which I thought was really well 
portrayed and Sung. 

766
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,800
Kang did a great job acting all 
that out that dilemma and his 

767
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,700
worry and his concern and fear. 
But I but you know for example 

768
00:39:07,700 --> 00:39:10,000
you had this personal experience
of knowing someone with 

769
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,300
Alzheimer's Someone who's very 
close to you, and you saw 

770
00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:14,400
firsthand like what they go 
through on a day-to-day basis. 

771
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,100
As they continued progress, I 
don't have chaddock had that 

772
00:39:17,100 --> 00:39:19,300
experience or how he exactly 
knew. 

773
00:39:19,300 --> 00:39:21,200
I was just wondering. 
I was really curious, like, how 

774
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,900
does he know it was not like I'm
like, oh, he doesn't know. 

775
00:39:23,900 --> 00:39:25,300
That's ridiculous. 
But I was just more like, how 

776
00:39:25,300 --> 00:39:27,300
does he know? 
Like that's really amazing that 

777
00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:30,400
he knows that I was curious. 
He's so attuned to it. 

778
00:39:30,700 --> 00:39:33,000
It was, It was kind of bizarre. 
I almost stopped for a second. 

779
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,600
His mom had her something 
because rules mom died. 

780
00:39:35,700 --> 00:39:38,200
Yeah. 
They never said, they know how 

781
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:43,600
she died either. 
So And I was like going crazy, 

782
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,300
he kept visiting her and talking
to her while in the columbarium,

783
00:39:48,300 --> 00:39:50,900
and I'm like, but how did she 
die? 

784
00:39:50,900 --> 00:39:53,900
Like, why did she die? 
So something the relationship 

785
00:39:53,900 --> 00:39:55,200
like? 
Yeah, that's really should like 

786
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,200
with his dad. 
Who, you know, obviously went to

787
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,000
jail, was she alive? 
During I think she was. 

788
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,300
But anyway, I was like, I needed
so much more about his mom and 

789
00:40:02,300 --> 00:40:04,300
that like his wife before his 
dad, went to jail. 

790
00:40:04,300 --> 00:40:06,400
Yes. 
And I wanted so much more from 

791
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,500
the dad character as well who 
they seem to want. 

792
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,300
A have they did like a 
half-baked reconciliation with a

793
00:40:14,308 --> 00:40:18,600
dad and I actually have big is 
half big because there was a 

794
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,200
couple of conversations a couple
of couple of words had and then 

795
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,300
like what will be just forgive 
all the years of abuse. 

796
00:40:25,300 --> 00:40:30,500
Like we're like there's 
something in the dad abuse 

797
00:40:30,500 --> 00:40:33,300
Channel because well or debuts 
only as part of the soccer team 

798
00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:35,700
by ioc beating kids in the 
soccer team, like Iowa. 

799
00:40:35,700 --> 00:40:38,300
So I'm lost. 
Yes, it was a bizarre things 

800
00:40:38,300 --> 00:40:40,200
happen. 
Why did he go to prison for 

801
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,200
beating? 
Ting children. 

802
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,000
The White Sox. 
Yeah. 

803
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:48,200
Not uncommon in Korean - to be 
children but you know from like 

804
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,300
it's teachers or like I mean I 
think it's less common now but I

805
00:40:51,300 --> 00:40:53,400
know like there's other dramas 
where they show teachers 

806
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,700
practicing corporal punishment. 
Yeah. 

807
00:40:56,500 --> 00:40:58,600
So I was like, is this a crime 
like genuinely? 

808
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,600
I was like, it's a crime. 
Why was it a crime? 

809
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,700
Why was this incident? 
A crime and other incidents. 

810
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,900
Did he like, he didn't like 
murder anyone not to sound 

811
00:41:05,900 --> 00:41:09,000
flippant about it but then the 
bully having this like a whole 

812
00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:11,800
giant dead. 
Hope they'll yeah, total been 

813
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,900
done against the family like, of
course, that makes sense, 

814
00:41:13,900 --> 00:41:15,300
because but then it was like 
the. 

815
00:41:15,300 --> 00:41:17,000
Why? 
Because he's like, my career is 

816
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,100
over and then the grandpa was 
like, no, it's not over and I 

817
00:41:19,107 --> 00:41:20,600
was like, what is going on right
now? 

818
00:41:22,700 --> 00:41:26,200
Okay, what anyone's doing this 
drama, the bully. 

819
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,000
I couldn't get a read on him for
a lot of times. 

820
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,100
It was. 
So one note and you're just 

821
00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:33,600
like, oh, he's such a good boy 
when he was like a little soccer

822
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,800
player. 
Yeah, fully with bleached hair 

823
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,700
and then like just 
indiscriminately beating up 

824
00:41:37,700 --> 00:41:39,800
people. 
It seems like and then I don't 

825
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,900
know, it was It's weird. 
I didn't like that. 

826
00:41:41,900 --> 00:41:45,000
No, no. 
Okay, I can go. 

827
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,000
Go ahead. 
What are you gonna say, okay? 

828
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,100
This is about the best friend, 
tear ducts best friend. 

829
00:41:49,100 --> 00:41:52,900
Who's the goalkeeper in the 
soccer team and new the bully. 

830
00:41:52,900 --> 00:41:55,100
And but yeah, it wasn't really 
afraid of the bully because he's

831
00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:57,500
like, this is not my deal. 
This is between like, chugs down

832
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,000
and the bully. 
I was like what are these 

833
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,000
relationships because he seemed 
close to both of them. 

834
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,100
Sort of, unlike many not friends
with the bully, but he seemed 

835
00:42:04,100 --> 00:42:07,800
like they like how this history.
They were team and who each 

836
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,100
other. 
There may be friends. 

837
00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:11,600
And then when the dad goes to 
But that surely was not the 

838
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,600
first time he like whooped all 
these soccer players. 

839
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,700
So like I don't really I don't. 
Yeah, there's so many questions.

840
00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:20,200
Unanswered questions are piling 
up here. 

841
00:42:21,700 --> 00:42:23,400
Here's a question. 
We can probably answer, though. 

842
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,300
Do you think song that's a good 
actor? 

843
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,700
So at first I was like, this guy
is not good, okay. 

844
00:42:29,100 --> 00:42:32,400
I've never seen a local farm and
I haven't watched over the last.

845
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,200
I haven't watched a lot of, but 
I know he's very popular so kind

846
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,200
of had high expectations in my 
mind for a minute versus like, 

847
00:42:37,300 --> 00:42:40,000
this is not good at acting but 
then I realized actually it was 

848
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,100
pretty good. 
Acting because the parts where 

849
00:42:42,300 --> 00:42:44,600
so chair rock just to like 
backtrack a little. 

850
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,900
Chadwick was essentially 
abandoned in a way like his 

851
00:42:46,900 --> 00:42:48,300
mother died. 
She did intentionally abandon 

852
00:42:48,300 --> 00:42:50,900
him but she's gone and then his 
dad is like, in jail. 

853
00:42:50,900 --> 00:42:52,300
Also not intentional, but he's 
gone. 

854
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,700
And he's like, just so alone and
he's the struggles were, he's 

855
00:42:55,700 --> 00:42:58,000
like alone in his apartment and 
it's just like, hitting him in 

856
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,500
like, emotional waves, that I'm 
alone, and no one's there for 

857
00:43:01,500 --> 00:43:04,300
me. 
And I have to survive, somehow, 

858
00:43:04,300 --> 00:43:06,000
I had to like, my dad is even 
care. 

859
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,600
Is that how he feels right? 
He just like pieces out after 

860
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,200
his release from prison. 
And I think I thought those 

861
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,700
Quiet Moments where he's just 
like, I'm going through really 

862
00:43:15,700 --> 00:43:19,100
Deep Emotions were so amazing. 
She doesn't say anything, right?

863
00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:21,500
It's like not. 
There's no dialogue, right? 

864
00:43:21,900 --> 00:43:24,800
Okay, just feeling the feels, so
here's the keys. 

865
00:43:24,900 --> 00:43:27,700
You think he is a good? 
Okay, here's my take. 

866
00:43:28,500 --> 00:43:31,800
This is a hot take, all right, I
don't think some kind is a good 

867
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,300
actor. 
Okay. 

868
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,700
I mean I didn't either at first,
so I have watched him in the 

869
00:43:36,707 --> 00:43:37,600
lion. 
His lover. 

870
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,300
I've watched him in season 1 of 
Love alarm, I've watched him. 

871
00:43:40,500 --> 00:43:44,400
Nevertheless, I don't think he's
a good actor. 

872
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,800
There's something about looking 
at song Kong and there's 

873
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,400
something about his little beady
eyes that I can't get a read on.

874
00:43:51,900 --> 00:43:56,000
I feel like there's nothing 
there and that scares me that 

875
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,300
there. 
It seems so empty. 

876
00:43:57,300 --> 00:44:00,100
He seems so empty, a lot of 
emotionless. 

877
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,200
So I think that's what happened 
with novel era where I was like 

878
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,700
this guy is doesn't remote and 
then I was like, well as 

879
00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:09,000
character sort of like, you 
know, a trauma response is to be

880
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,900
like in a frozen sort of Date, 
right? 

881
00:44:10,900 --> 00:44:12,000
If that's what you want to call 
it. 

882
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,900
I'm kind of diagnosing him from 
over here without any 

883
00:44:13,900 --> 00:44:17,200
credentials. 
But if he's like, he's like 

884
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,000
traumatized or if he's like 
going through it essentially and

885
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,600
he just can't like you don't 
have time to feel his feelings. 

886
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,700
It's sort of then did make sense
of he's so like Stony and like 

887
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,200
emotionless and but then like, 
yeah, I thought they had my his 

888
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,000
moments hopefully that gives 
them. 

889
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:37,500
I would agree that in this show,
he probably did the best that 

890
00:44:37,500 --> 00:44:41,900
I've seen him act, especially 
Like when he was driving a car 

891
00:44:41,900 --> 00:44:44,100
at one point, he was like 
freaking freaking out because he

892
00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:46,800
can't drive very well. 
I was like, okay, and some 

893
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,000
emotion, he's acting the goodbye
scene. 

894
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,700
He porchetta. 
Yes. 

895
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,900
Yeah, that was good to area more
like in general in the bathrooms

896
00:44:56,900 --> 00:44:59,400
of the ballet studio, right? 
Yeah. 

897
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,100
He's panicked and you're like, 
okay, I feel this, I feel the 

898
00:45:02,100 --> 00:45:05,400
urgency, I feel the panic. 
I think when he said goodbye too

899
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,700
hot to go G and the airport as 
well, I was like oh God, Sung 

900
00:45:09,700 --> 00:45:12,700
Kang you're bringing It was very
emotional because he starts 

901
00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:17,400
crying too and they hug which is
very uncommon and kdramas for 2,

902
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,600
male figures to hug and I was 
like, oh God. 

903
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:23,100
So I would say that he did the 
best. 

904
00:45:23,100 --> 00:45:25,800
In this one. 
Still, not Stellar still not a 

905
00:45:25,808 --> 00:45:28,800
great actor to me. 
I think he has a long way to go.

906
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,700
He's got the model look but like
not the chops. 

907
00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:36,300
The acting chops yet so that's 
the end of my hot sake. 

908
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,900
Um hot of oh geez wife. 
She goes through quite an arc 

909
00:45:41,900 --> 00:45:48,300
actually where she is very 
close-minded and upset at his 

910
00:45:48,700 --> 00:45:53,500
him learning ballet and I just, 
I was had very little sympathy 

911
00:45:53,500 --> 00:45:55,500
for her. 
I was like, she has no leg to 

912
00:45:55,500 --> 00:46:00,500
stand on, and I just didn't. 
I felt so much anger toward her 

913
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,400
towards the first time because 
the reason she gave a 

914
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:04,700
ridiculous. 
She's like, do you want to live 

915
00:46:04,700 --> 00:46:06,300
here kids? 
Why are you doing your own 

916
00:46:06,300 --> 00:46:07,700
thing? 
I was like, what he's retired. 

917
00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:10,300
Kids are his kids are adults 
like what? 

918
00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:13,500
Supposed to do exactly like, she
kept packing food for them and 

919
00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:15,200
giving them. 
I come over, get the soup come 

920
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:16,400
over and get this, whatever she 
made. 

921
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,700
And that's nice, but they didn't
need that. 

922
00:46:18,700 --> 00:46:20,800
It was like these children. 
Adult children were had any kind

923
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,300
of me that the hardwood you 
should have been attending to. 

924
00:46:23,500 --> 00:46:25,600
And so, she was just getting mad
at him for like no reason. 

925
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,200
Yes, ridiculous. 
Every moment you live should be 

926
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,500
for your kids. 
It's like what? 

927
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,200
That's ridiculous. 
Even for like Asian family. 

928
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,000
Yeah, she had a skewed version 
of like, what her role is at 

929
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,800
this point in life, where she 
was still trying to be the mom 

930
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,300
and it's like, no, you're pretty
much done. 

931
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:41,900
Done like they're already 
cooked. 

932
00:46:41,900 --> 00:46:45,200
Like the youngest the Monday is 
39 years old. 

933
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,600
You're done. 
He said that so many times. 

934
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,500
He's like I'm 39 and 39. 
Yeah, you said it over and over 

935
00:46:51,500 --> 00:46:54,000
again. 
And now I remember it, but when 

936
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:58,700
she guilted him into quitting 
ballet, I I was seething. 

937
00:46:58,700 --> 00:47:02,800
I was seething know when she cut
into his leg is ready to throw 

938
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,500
something. 
God, I was throwing had, oh my 

939
00:47:05,500 --> 00:47:08,500
God, the worst, the worst ever 
moment. 

940
00:47:08,500 --> 00:47:09,600
Yeah. 
Like that whole drama. 

941
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,300
I felt like was when she Cut 
again, really cut up his dance 

942
00:47:12,300 --> 00:47:13,300
legging. 
Yes. 

943
00:47:13,300 --> 00:47:16,500
He cut up his leotard and then 
said, age gracefully like that 

944
00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:17,700
was the thing. 
She kept saying like age 

945
00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:19,200
gracefully, just go hiking with 
me. 

946
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,300
Like, why do you need to do 
this? 

947
00:47:20,300 --> 00:47:21,700
Just like you're such an 
embarrassment. 

948
00:47:21,700 --> 00:47:24,700
You said, and I did feel like 
her tail was like the status quo

949
00:47:24,700 --> 00:47:27,200
that she like works so hard to 
achieve and wanted to maintain 

950
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,100
it. 
All costs for her kids, even 

951
00:47:29,100 --> 00:47:31,700
like her kids had to live up to 
and I feel like in her mind her 

952
00:47:31,700 --> 00:47:33,500
husband had to live up to what 
she had to live up to it. 

953
00:47:33,700 --> 00:47:36,100
And I think and I know they 
struggled in the early days of 

954
00:47:36,100 --> 00:47:39,200
their marriage, but then she was
so hung up on it. 

955
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:40,300
Still. 
I was like this. 

956
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,700
This is ridiculous. 
Yeah, you don't you don't give 

957
00:47:42,700 --> 00:47:45,300
her an inch in the show as an 
audience member. 

958
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,300
She yeah she kept citing her 
kids. 

959
00:47:48,300 --> 00:47:52,900
She was like they were just too 
poor to send their kids school 

960
00:47:52,900 --> 00:47:57,000
fees when they were younger and 
the kids grew up, well, despite 

961
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,100
all these circumstances. 
So can't he stop ballet for the 

962
00:48:01,100 --> 00:48:05,800
kids now when they're so against
it like bullshit, we've already 

963
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,900
established a grown-ass kids 
like let. 

964
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,900
How about do you live and 
Achieve this level of success 

965
00:48:11,900 --> 00:48:14,000
like you said, like despite 
their yes they had hardships. 

966
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,500
But now they're all kind of like
maybe not as subtle as she would

967
00:48:16,508 --> 00:48:18,000
like or as successful as you 
like. 

968
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,500
But they're they're they're at 
the point, she brought them up 

969
00:48:20,500 --> 00:48:22,700
to be at so I don't know what 
more she really wants. 

970
00:48:22,700 --> 00:48:24,300
Yeah. 
Why she's to bring hot Emoji 

971
00:48:24,300 --> 00:48:27,200
into this. 
She kind of saw ballet is being 

972
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,400
this frivolous thing when they 
sacrificed so much to raise 

973
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,300
their kids. 
But of mind, I'm like, babe. 

974
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,700
It's been 20 years since you 
were like raising a child. 

975
00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:40,100
So this is the time, this is the
time for him to he can do ballet

976
00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:43,100
it. 
It was very frustrating to watch

977
00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:47,100
the family, have family many 
meetings over the hot Emoji 

978
00:48:47,300 --> 00:48:49,400
learning ballet. 
Like what is that? 

979
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,100
Why do we need a family meeting 
about? 

980
00:48:51,500 --> 00:48:55,400
No idea and it occurs like he 
took put on a tutu, walk down 

981
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,800
the street and then like went to
ballet class and maybe that's an

982
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,000
issue and their neighborhood of 
but that would be an issue in 

983
00:49:00,008 --> 00:49:02,800
their neighborhood but he just 
was casually going to Studio 

984
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,800
doing his thing and coming home.
That's it, like, it's like going

985
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,400
to the gym. 
Almost, he's not even hurting 

986
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:13,400
anybody like no, no, the 
Asshole, son the oldest son, I 

987
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:14,600
call them to asshole. 
Son. 

988
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,000
The in the one I really was 
like, why are we? 

989
00:49:17,300 --> 00:49:18,500
I didn't want to. 
I didn't care about him. 

990
00:49:18,700 --> 00:49:21,700
Yeah because he's you can't Brew
for him at all. 

991
00:49:21,700 --> 00:49:25,900
Like he's terrible. 
He I think I won't point the why

992
00:49:25,900 --> 00:49:28,700
his wife was going back to work 
right after 20 years, like she's

993
00:49:28,700 --> 00:49:31,300
going back to work. 
Finally full-time is what she's 

994
00:49:31,300 --> 00:49:34,000
wanted like since the child was 
born, she's wanted to go back to

995
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,200
work full time and he was 
offended that she wanted to go 

996
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,200
back to work offended that she 
had an interview for the job. 

997
00:49:40,500 --> 00:49:43,500
She was like, he was demanding 
that she still fulfill her 

998
00:49:43,500 --> 00:49:45,900
responsibilities as a mom and a 
wife. 

999
00:49:45,900 --> 00:49:48,200
So I really did not understand 
this because I feel like they 

1000
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,700
met as sort of equals or peers 
or whatever is colleague 

1001
00:49:51,700 --> 00:49:54,900
something? 
So why are you so weirded out by

1002
00:49:54,900 --> 00:49:57,000
her desires to go back to that 
status special. 

1003
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,500
She did fulfill her duties as a 
mom. 

1004
00:49:58,500 --> 00:50:01,000
It exactly. 
You want her to keep packing 

1005
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,200
Bento boxes for you like I don't
understand. 

1006
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,400
Like it was very weird. 
It was very weird. 

1007
00:50:05,700 --> 00:50:08,600
It was so annoying. 
And then of course, his reaction

1008
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,100
to the dad. 
Doing ballet. 

1009
00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:15,400
I mean, he thought he kept 
saying that, are you doing this 

1010
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,100
to me? 
Why are you doing this to me? 

1011
00:50:17,900 --> 00:50:22,200
Like, like I said, bad starting 
ballet was like to spite him as 

1012
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,800
a punishment to him, like he's 
the victim. 

1013
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,400
I think that was very much a 
reflection of his mom. 

1014
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,700
His mom's attitude was like 
you're ruining our whole family 

1015
00:50:29,700 --> 00:50:32,800
by you doing this little thing 
and the oldest son or eldest, 

1016
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:37,000
son kind of mirrored that like 
you're ruining my life, the most

1017
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,000
prestigious one here basically 
this attitude the whole time. 

1018
00:50:40,500 --> 00:50:41,900
So he's like this is going to 
affect me. 

1019
00:50:41,900 --> 00:50:44,600
The most I have the most to lose
and I guess it's supposed to 

1020
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,400
show like his him and his mom 
being on the same page was over 

1021
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,200
and I was like, we don't care 
this much but I think the tide 

1022
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:56,100
finally changes when that sun 
drops in on them and sees the 

1023
00:50:56,100 --> 00:50:59,500
dad and his leotard and blows a 
gasket. 

1024
00:50:59,500 --> 00:51:04,800
Like he completely is out of 
line and disrespectful the way 

1025
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,800
he speaks to his father. 
And finally, the wife, the 

1026
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,700
Hominy is like, just Hitting him
and just like, why are you 

1027
00:51:11,707 --> 00:51:14,800
talking that way to your father?
He's done so much for this 

1028
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,100
family. 
You don't understand. 

1029
00:51:16,100 --> 00:51:20,000
Because he was saying stuff that
like he's never, I've never 

1030
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,900
asked you for a favor ever. 
You know, I've had to make 

1031
00:51:22,900 --> 00:51:26,100
sacrifices growing up while you 
got to live comfortably and 

1032
00:51:26,100 --> 00:51:28,300
like, no, no, no, it's the other
way around. 

1033
00:51:28,300 --> 00:51:32,200
Get ya out of pocket. 
Mmm, it's still so 

1034
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,400
disrespectful. 
So the Mom finally she sticks up

1035
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,200
for heart emoji. 
And she says, why does your why 

1036
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,500
does our sons success have to 
make us feel so small. 

1037
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,500
Why does your father have to 
feel sorry when you've grown up 

1038
00:51:44,500 --> 00:51:48,200
so well, so profound. 
Yeah. 

1039
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:52,800
So it is I love that line and I 
love that she finally is like, 

1040
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,400
do belly, like it's fine. 
Actually, for me, that was a 

1041
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,800
moment to where she was like 
because prior to that she had 

1042
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,500
been like, I do everything for 
my kids, I sacrificed my whole 

1043
00:52:00,500 --> 00:52:02,200
life for my kids and then she 
finally was like, actually there

1044
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,200
should be more reciprocal than 
it may be. 

1045
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,500
Is like they there could, they 
were kind of up until that point

1046
00:52:06,500 --> 00:52:08,900
ignoring them a little bit. 
Like they were always bugged by 

1047
00:52:09,100 --> 00:52:12,200
her and they're like oh Mom CNO.
They she wants to pick up soup 

1048
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,000
again or whatever and they were 
like very bothered and then she 

1049
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:19,500
finally was like, actually you 
guys need to respect us and 

1050
00:52:19,500 --> 00:52:21,600
appreciate us. 
And that was kind of good. 

1051
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,100
Yeah, I liked that part. 
Yeah, I have so many lines here.

1052
00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:29,500
I cannot go through each one but
like I face my problem head-on 

1053
00:52:29,500 --> 00:52:34,200
because I wanted to be happy. 
What makes you happiest. 

1054
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,600
Someone asked me that question 
today but I couldn't answer it. 

1055
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,100
I'm going to find out and that's
something that's own Kong asks. 

1056
00:52:40,300 --> 00:52:43,300
The granddaughter because 
they're like semi friends. 

1057
00:52:44,300 --> 00:52:47,600
That was an interesting 
relationship and I don't think 

1058
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:52,500
they really gave her our a lot 
of play as much as they did in 

1059
00:52:52,500 --> 00:52:58,200
like the Middle episodes where 
she is shown at work with song 

1060
00:52:58,500 --> 00:53:01,700
and she's getting treated badly.
She's doing badly on the job. 

1061
00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:06,000
She gets played by her evaluator
who wanted her to look translate

1062
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,000
her thesis paper into English 
and then gave her a c on the 

1063
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,400
evaluation and like, Shut down 
his chances at Landing, a 

1064
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:13,700
permanent position at the 
company. 

1065
00:53:14,100 --> 00:53:17,300
It was like all this drama and 
then like we don't get as much 

1066
00:53:17,300 --> 00:53:19,900
drama the rest of the show for 
her. 

1067
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,600
She had like this really juicy 
moment and then like yeah done. 

1068
00:53:24,700 --> 00:53:26,600
Yeah and then she's like, I love
working at the radio. 

1069
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,300
I was like whoa. 
Like that happened way too 

1070
00:53:28,300 --> 00:53:30,200
quickly. 
Yeah, from like she had this 

1071
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,100
other idea of her life and then 
she's like I don't want this 

1072
00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:33,700
radio internship and then she 
gets it. 

1073
00:53:33,700 --> 00:53:34,900
She's like just kidding. 
I love it. 

1074
00:53:34,900 --> 00:53:36,000
And I was like, what's that 
happened? 

1075
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,300
So fast. 
That was weird to. 

1076
00:53:37,300 --> 00:53:38,700
Yeah. 
Because at the end, she sits 

1077
00:53:38,700 --> 00:53:40,100
down with song and she's like, 
oh, yeah. 

1078
00:53:40,300 --> 00:53:41,800
Found it. 
I found what makes me happy and 

1079
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,700
he's like what is that? 
Just like working at the radio 

1080
00:53:44,700 --> 00:53:46,900
station makes it was up about. 
Hold on, hold on. 

1081
00:53:46,900 --> 00:53:49,000
How do we get there? 
You were being awesome because 

1082
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,700
she was just like a coffee 
bringer copies maker. 

1083
00:53:52,700 --> 00:53:55,900
She wasn't like yeah, anything 
important not to be me. 

1084
00:53:55,900 --> 00:53:58,100
That is important. 
Yeah. 

1085
00:53:58,100 --> 00:53:59,800
But she wasn't doing meaningful 
work. 

1086
00:53:59,900 --> 00:54:00,800
Right. 
Right. 

1087
00:54:00,900 --> 00:54:01,800
Right. 
Fulfilling work. 

1088
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:06,300
Yeah, she was just showing up. 
I do like that they didn't have 

1089
00:54:06,300 --> 00:54:08,400
any like they seemed like they 
were going to get like kind of 

1090
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,900
romantical. 
Let's talk about this because I 

1091
00:54:10,900 --> 00:54:14,400
thought I was like, oh, they're 
gonna get their song on the 

1092
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,600
granddaughter are going to make 
it as a couple by the end of the

1093
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,800
show or something to that 
effect. 

1094
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,200
Yeah, never happened. 
Never happened. 

1095
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,300
What the hell? 
It was both frustrating, but I 

1096
00:54:24,308 --> 00:54:27,000
was kind of like, actually, this
is good because for one thing I 

1097
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,000
think towards the end, maybe 
this again, just me, but they 

1098
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,300
almost had a sibling Dynamic 
there, like, we share a grandpa.

1099
00:54:31,300 --> 00:54:34,000
So now it's like, okay, we don't
want them to get together. 

1100
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,500
Also, To fulfill his dreams. 
There's no way he could really 

1101
00:54:36,500 --> 00:54:38,300
be with her because she's like, 
working in a local radio 

1102
00:54:38,300 --> 00:54:39,900
station. 
He's like, I gotta go be a 

1103
00:54:39,900 --> 00:54:42,400
ballerina and Italy or whatever 
he was doing those kind of 

1104
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,500
Impractical. 
And yeah, he just was so adopted

1105
00:54:46,500 --> 00:54:49,400
by The Harem. 
Only had a body that it seemed 

1106
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:50,900
almost incestuous. 
I would've been almost 

1107
00:54:50,900 --> 00:54:54,200
incestuous, you know, that was 
my take on it right again. 

1108
00:54:54,300 --> 00:54:57,000
I could be reading this in a 
really weird way but they did 

1109
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,700
have this really nice 
camaraderie and understanding 

1110
00:54:59,700 --> 00:55:02,200
and she's like, you look after 
my grandpa and I think she does 

1111
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,600
such appreciation for how he did
look. 

1112
00:55:04,700 --> 00:55:08,000
After her grandma, she 
recognized that acknowledge that

1113
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,700
and she's just like, I'm here 
for you, bro. 

1114
00:55:09,700 --> 00:55:12,400
Like, I like that dynamic as a 
change. 

1115
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,600
But yes, at some point, I was 
like, are they gonna kiss? 

1116
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,600
I think it gets a guy hired all 
that. 

1117
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,500
Yeah, I was kind of hoping it's 
sunk. 

1118
00:55:20,500 --> 00:55:23,400
I'm gonna blankly look out a 
window and like they cut to the 

1119
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,100
granddaughter and so he's 
obviously thinking of her like, 

1120
00:55:26,100 --> 00:55:30,600
no, it never happened. 
It's kind of refreshing, the 

1121
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,500
kind of a letdown if you're into
kdrama. 

1122
00:55:32,500 --> 00:55:34,600
I agree. 
Completely it is. 

1123
00:55:34,700 --> 00:55:37,100
Like okay, I was expecting. 
It would have been okay with it 

1124
00:55:37,100 --> 00:55:38,700
but then they didn't do it. 
I'm like okay. 

1125
00:55:38,700 --> 00:55:40,700
Yeah. 
Platonic friendship is okay to 

1126
00:55:40,700 --> 00:55:44,500
like, it's fine. 
Yeah, either way, but it was a 

1127
00:55:44,508 --> 00:55:48,700
bit of a fake. 
Oh yes, the incompatible this 

1128
00:55:48,700 --> 00:55:50,200
company. 
Yeah, they're compatible. 

1129
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:55,900
Yeah, I was very emotional 
during the ballet scene in the 

1130
00:55:55,900 --> 00:56:00,200
snow and there were three ballet
scenes in the snow. 

1131
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,000
Right. 
Right where and this one was an 

1132
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,500
episode a where Hollywood? 
He loses his memory and he's 

1133
00:56:07,500 --> 00:56:10,400
like been in standing in the 
street Frozen for like over 30 

1134
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,600
minutes and he couldn't remember
Chadwick. 

1135
00:56:13,100 --> 00:56:17,700
So chaddock starts dancing in 
the, in the walkway there. 

1136
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:22,800
Oh my God. 
Beautiful beautiful. 

1137
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:27,100
Any got the park in one, like 
his portrayal of someone so 

1138
00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:29,300
freaked out. 
Cannot doesn't know where he is,

1139
00:56:29,300 --> 00:56:30,600
doesn't know who he's talking 
to. 

1140
00:56:30,700 --> 00:56:31,800
She doesn't know what's 
happening. 

1141
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,500
It's just having this like 
moment where his Alzheimer's 

1142
00:56:34,500 --> 00:56:37,200
symptoms are flaring if that's 
the way I could describe it. 

1143
00:56:38,100 --> 00:56:40,000
I thought that was such a good 
portrayal because he looks so 

1144
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,100
freaked out. 
And then and then putting that 

1145
00:56:43,100 --> 00:56:45,500
scene in the writers to me that 
seated with songkong like 

1146
00:56:45,500 --> 00:56:48,900
dancing to jog his memory. 
So genius I thought like yeah 

1147
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,100
you know, he could have just 
been like remember we take 

1148
00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:52,500
ballet together and I'm your 
teacher. 

1149
00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:54,100
He did do a little bit of that, 
but then he's like, okay, I'm 

1150
00:56:54,100 --> 00:56:56,600
just gonna start dancing because
it shows how yeah, this art is. 

1151
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,000
So moving your heart of a g in 
particular. 

1152
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,100
It's more than words, it's more.
Then anything else? 

1153
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,600
Oh my God. 
Yes, it's transcending. 

1154
00:57:05,700 --> 00:57:08,800
You know, totally God. 
Great word. 

1155
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,800
It was beautiful and I didn't 
care that that wasn't Sung Kang 

1156
00:57:12,900 --> 00:57:16,200
dancing in the, the silhouette 
or whatever. 

1157
00:57:16,500 --> 00:57:19,600
I was just moved. 
I was moved when that scene came

1158
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,400
up and of course, had a woody 
does. 

1159
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,800
Remember him, he liked it, does 
jog his memory. 

1160
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:29,800
So it's I think of it as like 
movie Magic because In real 

1161
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:34,600
life, I do not think that a 
little dancing. 

1162
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:38,600
Boy will jog, an Alzheimer's 
patients memory. 

1163
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,400
Never know, you never know. 
It's a very unpredictable 

1164
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,500
disease and a funny story my 
grandmother. 

1165
00:57:44,500 --> 00:57:46,800
She just recently passed away 
like a couple of months ago, but

1166
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:51,100
she thank you. 
She also got dementia and 

1167
00:57:51,100 --> 00:57:53,200
hurlers way later than my 
grandfather did. 

1168
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:57,400
She was in her late 80s but she 
got dementia and it was a very 

1169
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,900
rapid decline for her. 
But she never forgot that my 

1170
00:58:00,900 --> 00:58:04,800
friend met her husband on a 
cruise, like, they would come 

1171
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,100
and visit, she wouldn't remember
who they were and then they'd 

1172
00:58:07,100 --> 00:58:09,900
start talking like, oh yeah, you
guys met on the cruise, right? 

1173
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,900
So like random. 
Yeah, the most random thing that

1174
00:58:13,900 --> 00:58:18,500
she remembered but the dancing 
in the snow sequence, in episode

1175
00:58:18,500 --> 00:58:22,100
10, also shook me up. 
That was when Haji starts 

1176
00:58:22,100 --> 00:58:26,100
dancing in the like lights from 
the car and it's snowing again. 

1177
00:58:26,700 --> 00:58:31,700
Oh my gosh, I thought Because 
the traditional kdrama Trope is 

1178
00:58:31,700 --> 00:58:35,600
no means romance, right first? 
No first time you like get 

1179
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,500
together or whatever is like 
there's always those things 

1180
00:58:37,500 --> 00:58:39,800
about snow not that this was 
first no necessarily. 

1181
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:43,500
But in this drama they used to 
know for these pivotal moments 

1182
00:58:43,500 --> 00:58:46,300
that are related to ballet which
was like in a way his first 

1183
00:58:46,300 --> 00:58:47,900
love. 
If you think about it moving you

1184
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,100
getting to it? 
No keep going. 

1185
00:58:50,100 --> 00:58:53,300
Keep going. 
But yeah like it's something 

1186
00:58:53,300 --> 00:58:56,600
that's so meaningful and and his
passion and he like kind of 

1187
00:58:56,607 --> 00:58:59,000
tamped it down for so long. 
And then every time it snows, 

1188
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,300
Knows there's like this 
important dance scene. 

1189
00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:04,600
I thought that was a nice again.
I kind of appreciate some of the

1190
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,500
variations away from the regular
drama tropes and regular, 

1191
00:59:08,500 --> 00:59:11,800
expectations of what the drama 
will be because it's so much 

1192
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,800
more creative and kind of more 
meaningful. 

1193
00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:15,600
I thought. 
Anyway, yes. 

1194
00:59:15,900 --> 00:59:19,900
Beautiful interpretation of that
because yes, no is usually a 

1195
00:59:19,908 --> 00:59:23,500
Romancing. 
But this is a bromance with an 

1196
00:59:23,500 --> 00:59:25,900
art form. 
Yeah. 

1197
00:59:25,900 --> 00:59:27,000
Yeah. 
It's really good way to put it. 

1198
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:32,000
Yeah, beautiful. 
I I think that I kind of lost it

1199
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,500
and started crying during the 
family meeting where they're 

1200
00:59:35,500 --> 00:59:39,000
talking about the nursing home 
situation and that discussion 

1201
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,000
that's all of kids have with 
each other. 

1202
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,000
And then, that granddaughter was
my hero. 

1203
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:49,100
The So they're talking about 
what they're going to do, right?

1204
00:59:50,300 --> 00:59:52,400
The oldest son says oh we're 
going to take him, we're going 

1205
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:53,800
to take him in. 
We're going to take care of him 

1206
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:55,400
and that's when the sister says 
no. 

1207
00:59:55,500 --> 00:59:58,100
You know, we're going to take 
him in and her politician 

1208
00:59:58,100 --> 01:00:00,100
husband stepson. 
Some steps up and says it 

1209
01:00:00,107 --> 01:00:03,000
before, she can get the words 
out and says, no will take him. 

1210
01:00:04,300 --> 01:00:08,000
I been in these conversations. 
You know, I've been in these 

1211
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,400
family meetings. 
What are we going to do? 

1212
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:15,100
Because it's getting worse and 
you guys can't take care of, you

1213
01:00:15,100 --> 01:00:19,100
know, so and so, So, it almost 
felt like I've been, I've been 

1214
01:00:19,100 --> 01:00:22,300
in that room and the tension, 
the emotions. 

1215
01:00:22,300 --> 01:00:25,300
And the fact they have kind of, 
to put on a different hat 

1216
01:00:25,300 --> 01:00:27,300
because you have to think 
logically. 

1217
01:00:28,100 --> 01:00:30,400
You cannot think emotionally, 
like, what are you? 

1218
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,300
He cannot take care of himself. 
He can't stay by himself, but I 

1219
01:00:34,300 --> 01:00:37,500
work full time, right? 
I cannot be with him 24 hours a 

1220
01:00:37,508 --> 01:00:39,900
day and he needs 24/7 
supervision. 

1221
01:00:39,900 --> 01:00:44,500
So, something's got to give 
Yeah, my family's from 

1222
01:00:44,500 --> 01:00:48,100
Bangladesh and there's like a 
big stigma about like nursing 

1223
01:00:48,100 --> 01:00:50,900
homes or let's talk. 
Like that's like abandoning your

1224
01:00:50,900 --> 01:00:54,200
family and you have to be the 
one to take care of your family.

1225
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,000
So the Elder son was like, no, 
we we are the family in the 

1226
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,700
sister was like, but 
realistically we need help. 

1227
01:00:59,700 --> 01:01:02,700
We have professional nurses or 
whoever to come. 

1228
01:01:02,700 --> 01:01:05,400
We either in the home or we have
to sent like, you know, it was 

1229
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,400
like a huge emotional battle but
that struggle between logic and 

1230
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:09,700
emotions. 
I thought was really well 

1231
01:01:09,700 --> 01:01:13,000
portrayed really well. 
Portrayed, it was a Very well 

1232
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,100
written. 
And like you said, I come from a

1233
01:01:16,100 --> 01:01:19,700
Hispanic culture. 
It's the same exact thing in our

1234
01:01:19,700 --> 01:01:23,900
culture where the older, you get
that the older generation 

1235
01:01:23,900 --> 01:01:27,600
expects that their children will
take care of them in their old 

1236
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,900
age, no matter what going into a
nursing home is like, not an 

1237
01:01:30,900 --> 01:01:32,000
option. 
It's taboo. 

1238
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,900
Like you don't do that. 
It seems like you're abandoning 

1239
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,700
your family member throwing them
away or something. 

1240
01:01:37,700 --> 01:01:39,200
Yes. 
Like just, like, putting them 

1241
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:43,500
away in a nursing home and 
that's That's not the case at 

1242
01:01:43,500 --> 01:01:45,300
all. 
I've learned I've had to 

1243
01:01:45,300 --> 01:01:47,800
unlearn. 
This actually like as a as a 

1244
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,600
Hispanic coming from this 
culture and dealing with it. 

1245
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:56,300
Firsthand three different times.
Actually, I feel completely 

1246
01:01:56,300 --> 01:01:58,000
that. 
It's not the case. 

1247
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,200
You're not abandoning, your 
family member, you need help, 

1248
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,900
they need help, they need 
specialized help, right? 

1249
01:02:04,900 --> 01:02:07,500
That is a taking care of them. 
Yes. 

1250
01:02:07,500 --> 01:02:10,300
Yes, give them the best care. 
If unless you're a trained 

1251
01:02:10,300 --> 01:02:12,700
geriatric nurse you're not going
to be able to provide Vide. 

1252
01:02:12,700 --> 01:02:14,900
That care or Jared? 
Yes, you got it. 

1253
01:02:14,900 --> 01:02:16,500
You need to leave something. 
A diagnosis like this. 

1254
01:02:16,500 --> 01:02:18,700
It's not just regular aging or 
what? 

1255
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:19,700
Yes. 
Yes. 

1256
01:02:19,700 --> 01:02:23,100
Like a different thing entirely,
and they're not capable, and 

1257
01:02:23,107 --> 01:02:24,300
they're not equipped. 
Especially if you have a 

1258
01:02:24,308 --> 01:02:26,600
full-time job, especially don't 
know what you're doing in this 

1259
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:30,500
scenario and you do need to 
consider something like under a 

1260
01:02:30,500 --> 01:02:34,100
home or a special facility or at
least in home care. 

1261
01:02:34,100 --> 01:02:36,500
Something. 
Yeah, something I mean my case, 

1262
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:40,100
if it went three different ways.
So my grandfather, my 

1263
01:02:40,100 --> 01:02:44,000
grandmother swore that Take care
of her husband, she's going to 

1264
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,000
do it, no matter what, and she 
took care of him for seven 

1265
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:48,300
years. 
He was bedridden and she took 

1266
01:02:48,300 --> 01:02:51,600
care of him on his own, on her, 
own would not recognize her at a

1267
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,800
time where recommend, because it
really chipped away at her, 

1268
01:02:54,808 --> 01:03:01,100
spirit chipped away at her 
energy and feel like an aged her

1269
01:03:01,100 --> 01:03:03,900
a lot more, and she needed help 
all the time. 

1270
01:03:03,900 --> 01:03:06,200
So, we were going over there. 
All the time we were moving him,

1271
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,200
you had to move them. 
So he wouldn't get bedsores and 

1272
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,600
then he got a bed sore and it 
was devastating and it was all 

1273
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,700
these things zero. 
At a time we were I commend 

1274
01:03:12,700 --> 01:03:16,200
them. 
My aunt got um, was it called 

1275
01:03:16,500 --> 01:03:19,800
frontotemporal dementia, which 
is an early onset dementia, she 

1276
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,900
was in her 50s and she basically
got dementia and the same thing 

1277
01:03:22,900 --> 01:03:25,400
she became bedridden and she 
couldn't function, and my 

1278
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,000
grandmother was like, I'm going 
to do it all over again. 

1279
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,200
I'm going to take care of him. 
We were like no we're not going 

1280
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,300
to do that again. 
It went horribly, you need help.

1281
01:03:32,300 --> 01:03:33,900
You can't deal with her on your 
own. 

1282
01:03:33,900 --> 01:03:37,100
So we hired a help we hired a 
nurse who would come and like 

1283
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,700
take care of her during the day 
and help out and stuff. 

1284
01:03:40,100 --> 01:03:42,900
Which again I don't think that 
was enough at all because They 

1285
01:03:42,900 --> 01:03:45,600
didn't want the nurse to, or 
have another nurse to spend the 

1286
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,400
night and have an overnight 
nurse. 

1287
01:03:48,100 --> 01:03:51,100
So it was like wild at night 
that because sundowning is a 

1288
01:03:51,107 --> 01:03:54,000
real thing. 
And then my grandmother, which 

1289
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,900
was most recent, you know, P 
were I'm older now. 

1290
01:03:57,900 --> 01:04:01,600
So I was I had more of a say in 
like what the care was going to 

1291
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,200
look like and I was like, you 
guys can't do this. 

1292
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:09,100
I was talking to my dad, right? 
He's the only son left and they 

1293
01:04:09,100 --> 01:04:12,700
were doing their best. 
My mom was basically the Option 

1294
01:04:12,700 --> 01:04:16,200
in, in this story where she was,
she married into the family and 

1295
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:17,200
she was like, we're going to do 
it. 

1296
01:04:17,207 --> 01:04:20,300
We're going to take care of her 
and she's a sweet sentiment. 

1297
01:04:20,300 --> 01:04:23,600
Yes, that's just sweet. 
They, you know, it's hard 

1298
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:27,400
because when my family, my 
mother's parents died young. 

1299
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:34,400
And so the, my my father's 
parents, my grandmother were, 

1300
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,900
they were like a second parents 
to her and they, it was like a, 

1301
01:04:38,100 --> 01:04:39,900
they've known each other for 
like over 40 years. 

1302
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:48,800
So it was very much An emotional
decision to make logically to 

1303
01:04:48,900 --> 01:04:50,900
now, is that we can't do this 
anymore we have to put her in a 

1304
01:04:50,908 --> 01:04:54,400
home with memory care which was 
a whole nother thing, right? 

1305
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,200
Because there's nursing homes 
for people that don't have 

1306
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,100
dementia and then there's Memory
Care who's just like a whole 

1307
01:04:58,100 --> 01:05:01,900
nother thing. 
But I mean, in this case, seeing

1308
01:05:01,900 --> 01:05:07,500
this conversation and not 
Valera, and seeing how they kind

1309
01:05:07,500 --> 01:05:11,000
of like, we're like, oh, he's 
doing okay right now, like we 

1310
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,800
can take care of him. 
I'm like again, this is when I 

1311
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,800
was like, you don't understand. 
It's like Progressive, like they

1312
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,900
will not be able to maintain 
this. 

1313
01:05:20,900 --> 01:05:25,300
Like he will not remember the 
moment where he forgets them in 

1314
01:05:25,300 --> 01:05:29,500
the final episode. 
And it's the day, D-Day, the day

1315
01:05:29,500 --> 01:05:31,600
of the performance. 
And he forgets, everybody 

1316
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:33,800
forgets, like, who he is 
forgets, how to dance? 

1317
01:05:34,300 --> 01:05:35,900
I was like. 
Oh no. 

1318
01:05:35,900 --> 01:05:38,300
And then, I have, I have a 
little bit of pessimism, like, 

1319
01:05:38,300 --> 01:05:42,200
in my view because I'm like, 
well who knows when he'll 

1320
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,000
return. 
And like, be able to remember 

1321
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:50,400
everything and the families face
when they the relief and joy, 

1322
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,500
when he recognizes them finally,
for I found that heartbreaking, 

1323
01:05:53,500 --> 01:05:54,900
most people would be like, oh 
yes. 

1324
01:05:54,900 --> 01:05:58,400
He can do it. 
He can, he can dance in the, in 

1325
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,900
the Showcase. 
And I'm like, oh no girl. 

1326
01:06:00,900 --> 01:06:05,100
Like because you this is 
heartbreaking lab because there 

1327
01:06:05,100 --> 01:06:08,200
is no doubt in my mind that this
is going to happen more 

1328
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,300
frequently. 
And the times when he remembers 

1329
01:06:11,300 --> 01:06:12,800
them is going to be less. 
And Les. 

1330
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,100
It was so sad. 
So to me it was it was sad. 

1331
01:06:16,100 --> 01:06:20,200
It was heartbreaking. 
It was like, it's weird as a 

1332
01:06:20,207 --> 01:06:22,200
viewer. 
And you're just thinking of the 

1333
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,900
these characters are like I want
to see the dance like a crazed, 

1334
01:06:24,900 --> 01:06:29,300
right? 
We build up to this but yeah, I 

1335
01:06:29,300 --> 01:06:30,500
and then it was so 
heartbreaking. 

1336
01:06:30,500 --> 01:06:32,500
When he couldn't recognize his 
wife he couldn't recognize Chau 

1337
01:06:32,500 --> 01:06:36,200
doc, he didn't remember ballet 
and then he like the he was sort

1338
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,600
of getting it again and they're 
like all right you gotta like 

1339
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:40,600
remember and he's like it's so 
much pressure. 

1340
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,300
I feel like that level of stress
on someone who's going through 

1341
01:06:43,300 --> 01:06:44,700
it. 
This is like, this would kind of

1342
01:06:44,700 --> 01:06:46,600
exacerbate their symptoms, 
almost more. 

1343
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,100
So I was like, and I was a 
moment from your, like, this is 

1344
01:06:49,100 --> 01:06:49,700
realistic. 
I don't know. 

1345
01:06:49,700 --> 01:06:51,900
But we're in dromoland. 
So I'll just like go with it, 

1346
01:06:53,100 --> 01:06:54,200
right? 
Yeah. 

1347
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaking of things that are in 
dromoland, I noticed that song 

1348
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:00,400
kong was using chopsticks with 
his left hand. 

1349
01:07:01,300 --> 01:07:05,400
And then when he wrote the like 
spell quote-unquote in the 

1350
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:09,200
ballet, shoe for heart emoji, he
was using his right hand to the 

1351
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:13,400
right and I was like, wait is 
song I made extras. 

1352
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,700
He could just like I know some 
people were like trying to do 

1353
01:07:16,700 --> 01:07:18,700
some random things with their 
right hand, so maybe that's all 

1354
01:07:18,700 --> 01:07:20,600
it was there like it's school, 
maybe he was because I was 

1355
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,000
actually born left-handed and my
parents read us. 

1356
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,400
Something in the news about like
studies show left-handed 

1357
01:07:25,500 --> 01:07:28,200
children, blah, blah, whatever, 
adults grow up to something. 

1358
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,300
So they're like, oh, you're 
switching Jeremy into the have 

1359
01:07:30,300 --> 01:07:34,000
to like train me. 
So you know, you ain't happy 

1360
01:07:34,100 --> 01:07:36,000
necessarily ambidextrous but 
maybe he liked. 

1361
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:37,500
What was told at school, you 
gotta write with your right. 

1362
01:07:37,500 --> 01:07:40,600
Oh yeah, I've heard of that 
happening. 

1363
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,900
I actually the only thing that I
do Lefty is Play pool. 

1364
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,600
I don't know why. 
And I didn't learn like I wasn't

1365
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:51,600
like, someone's gonna teach me 
how to play pool is like a 

1366
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,400
natural like this feels 
comfortable. 

1367
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:58,400
I can control it like this is 
just and I don't know why if you

1368
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,300
if anyone is listening out there
and it's like I can do things 

1369
01:08:01,300 --> 01:08:03,800
with my right hand and I can't 
do with my left hand vice versa.

1370
01:08:04,300 --> 01:08:07,100
Let us know like, how are you? 
Oddly ambidextrous. 

1371
01:08:09,700 --> 01:08:11,400
Yeah. 
Is there anything else that you 

1372
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,900
would like to say about novel 
era? 

1373
01:08:14,300 --> 01:08:17,899
Cuz we're coming up on like the 
end of the show was wanted to 

1374
01:08:17,899 --> 01:08:22,600
touch on TED Talks coach the 
former famous ballarino himself 

1375
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:26,200
who had a back injury. 
Yes, whole deal with his ex-wife

1376
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:30,200
/ new wife, and that was a very 
strange part. 

1377
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,399
Like a person to me, I didn't 
know how to feel about him. 

1378
01:08:32,500 --> 01:08:35,399
It seemed like Jack was hiding 
his struggles with. 

1379
01:08:35,399 --> 01:08:37,800
Like, you know, I'm alone. 
I'm trying to live on my own. 

1380
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,700
I have multiple jobs. 
He wasn't telling him. 

1381
01:08:39,899 --> 01:08:41,100
And I was like, what about 
China? 

1382
01:08:41,100 --> 01:08:43,500
Iraq? 
Did this ballarino guy, fine. 

1383
01:08:43,500 --> 01:08:45,899
So, like he said, It. 
But we didn't like see it or if 

1384
01:08:45,899 --> 01:08:47,800
we did we didn't like, come 
through to me that. 

1385
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,600
This was like amazing dance. 
Work for like a almost untrained

1386
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,899
child, but he like took him 
under his wing and he's like, 

1387
01:08:53,899 --> 01:08:55,700
this is my protege. 
I was like, but why? 

1388
01:08:55,700 --> 01:08:57,800
And then he like how this whole 
deal with his ex-wife and I was 

1389
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,500
like, but why? 
And then you know he was famous 

1390
01:09:00,500 --> 01:09:03,899
and then his like career engine 
mated show like any almost any 

1391
01:09:03,899 --> 01:09:07,500
of his like struggles with that 
depression or whatever feelings 

1392
01:09:07,500 --> 01:09:09,000
you might have had after that he
just was like. 

1393
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:12,100
Anyway now I have this Ballet 
company and I was just like, 

1394
01:09:12,100 --> 01:09:13,300
what are you doing with this 
guy? 

1395
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:17,200
He seemed Fine. 
But yeah I agree I thought that 

1396
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:20,899
they again a half-baked the 
subplot with this guy and his 

1397
01:09:20,899 --> 01:09:24,700
background where I didn't quite 
understand like what was 

1398
01:09:24,700 --> 01:09:28,500
happening until like the later 
episodes where he was like I was

1399
01:09:28,500 --> 01:09:31,300
in a rut. 
I got this injury, I tried to 

1400
01:09:31,700 --> 01:09:34,500
dance through it, and it ended 
up ending my career and not. 

1401
01:09:34,500 --> 01:09:38,500
So he had like an identity 
crisis, an existential crisis 

1402
01:09:38,500 --> 01:09:40,300
and then song came into the 
picture. 

1403
01:09:40,300 --> 01:09:42,800
So I was like, oh, he was 
dancing until like recently, 

1404
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:44,100
then, yeah. 
Yeah. 

1405
01:09:44,300 --> 01:09:46,700
All happened so fast. 
It's like Revelation about 

1406
01:09:46,700 --> 01:09:49,200
exactly how this all went down 
was very, very fast in one 

1407
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,100
episode and I was like, oh 
there's like no, like builds up 

1408
01:09:52,100 --> 01:09:54,300
or like it's not about him. 
I get that the show is not about

1409
01:09:54,300 --> 01:09:57,300
him, but it was weird. 
I also I did appreciate that for

1410
01:09:57,300 --> 01:09:59,200
Navi Lera. 
How there was like this sort of 

1411
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,200
it was kind of diverse. 
There's like an elder person 

1412
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,700
trying to do ballet. 
There was that Valley company 

1413
01:10:04,700 --> 01:10:06,100
that had like the wheelchair 
use. 

1414
01:10:06,100 --> 01:10:07,600
Yes. 
Yeah. 

1415
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,000
That was really cool but I 
thought it was weird and kind of

1416
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,200
fun. 
Likely that really? 

1417
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,800
Very little was About men in 
ballet. 

1418
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,300
There was no, like, the bully 
wasn't bullying him about that. 

1419
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:20,600
That's like, like, boy him about
that. 

1420
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:24,400
Maybe like a fire here. 
They didn't really make that the

1421
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:25,800
girls. 
It was not weird, no one was 

1422
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:27,800
weird. 
And I feel like in Korea, maybe 

1423
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,800
people would be more, like, they
didn't talk about like the 

1424
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:34,800
gender politics of it. 
Yeah. 

1425
01:10:34,900 --> 01:10:36,900
Yeah. 
We're all about the al-jalil. 

1426
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:38,600
Yeah. 
You too old to do ballet. 

1427
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,300
Okay fine. 
But then almost like glossed 

1428
01:10:41,300 --> 01:10:44,600
over gendered stuff. 
You are Lately. 

1429
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,600
Right? 
Because I think that's more 

1430
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:49,600
realistic than probably a lot of
the other subplots that they had

1431
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,200
going on and what they were 
bullying. 

1432
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:56,000
Like the bully bully was like 
bullying out in a very complex 

1433
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,000
way, like, a complex reason for 
the bully. 

1434
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:02,200
And I was like, no, man, 
simplify simplify, I wonder if 

1435
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,100
the webtoon kind of delves into 
this more. 

1436
01:11:04,100 --> 01:11:06,200
I didn't read. 
All right, right? 

1437
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:07,300
Yeah. 
No, I didn't either. 

1438
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,600
I forgot to mention that in the 
first half, but I agree. 

1439
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:15,500
The Bullying could have been a 
little more traditional, So I 

1440
01:11:15,500 --> 01:11:18,100
find me, that's why I found it 
odd, very distracting and the 

1441
01:11:18,100 --> 01:11:20,700
fact that they kind of divulged 
the reasons for some of these 

1442
01:11:20,700 --> 01:11:22,800
things, very late in the game. 
I was like, when I don't even 

1443
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:24,700
care, I like accepted that this 
bullies weird. 

1444
01:11:24,700 --> 01:11:27,200
I've accepted that this Coach 
Guy like, kind of cares. 

1445
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:28,500
What charge? 
What kind of doesn't care about,

1446
01:11:28,500 --> 01:11:31,300
you know, and I kind of was just
like at peace with these things 

1447
01:11:31,300 --> 01:11:33,000
and then I'm like, oh this is 
why I like this is what 

1448
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:34,700
happened. 
I'm like, oh yeah, I forgot. 

1449
01:11:34,700 --> 01:11:37,100
I care about that for a second 
ago. 

1450
01:11:38,100 --> 01:11:41,900
I agree and I think we've been 
bashing the show a lot more than

1451
01:11:41,900 --> 01:11:46,900
I like intended to bash it but 
This show, genuinely it's worth 

1452
01:11:46,900 --> 01:11:49,400
watching. 
I would recommend it to people. 

1453
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:53,400
It has a lot of this. 
I think we mentioned this in the

1454
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:54,300
my mr. 
Episode. 

1455
01:11:54,300 --> 01:11:57,600
But like this Korean concept of 
Jang which is like a kindred 

1456
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:02,400
spirit, someone you're not 
related to by Blood who seems to

1457
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:03,800
have the strange connection with
you. 

1458
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:07,300
And that is the relationship 
between songs Chadwick and the 

1459
01:12:07,300 --> 01:12:10,400
hot Emoji. 
Like they have this like weird 

1460
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,800
sort of connection where they 
understand each other and 

1461
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:16,600
they're almost like Two sides of
the same coin they're like soul 

1462
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,400
mates, there's so many, there's 
so many, it's essentially like 

1463
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:23,000
that's the only equivalent of 
this relationship is just saying

1464
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,100
that they're, they're soul 
mates. 

1465
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:29,600
And that's why I like this show 
is that this one that's why I, 

1466
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,600
like, my odds are she choose the
same thing, right? 

1467
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,800
Like you just said, it's like, 
sometimes in dramas, I love 

1468
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:36,300
romance. 
Dramas don't get me wrong but 

1469
01:12:36,300 --> 01:12:38,600
it's kind of nice to see like 
there's nothing romantic going 

1470
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:40,700
on, but it's very deep and 
intimate. 

1471
01:12:40,700 --> 01:12:43,300
Anyway, or I guess in Majesty, 
there's like some sort of like 

1472
01:12:43,300 --> 01:12:48,300
mini man. 
But it was it's more like this 

1473
01:12:48,300 --> 01:12:50,700
intimacy. 
That is very much unspoken. 

1474
01:12:50,700 --> 01:12:53,500
It's not like super outward and 
they both are feeling at the 

1475
01:12:53,500 --> 01:12:56,600
same time and I think about that
in real life like the energy 

1476
01:12:56,600 --> 01:13:00,000
vibrations like between them 
must have been like really so 

1477
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,300
intense and The Chemistry 
Between the actors are so good. 

1478
01:13:02,300 --> 01:13:05,300
Like I was totally buying that. 
Check was friends with like a 

1479
01:13:05,308 --> 01:13:06,900
seven-year-old, man. 
He's right there. 

1480
01:13:06,900 --> 01:13:07,600
He's. 
Yeah. 

1481
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:08,800
He's buddies. 
His best friend. 

1482
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,300
Like the 73-year old. 
And the an even when. 

1483
01:13:11,300 --> 01:13:12,600
Huh? 
Demony like adopts charak 

1484
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:14,300
immediately. 
She's like, okay, you're my And 

1485
01:13:14,300 --> 01:13:17,400
so now and I was like this is 
this is so hard, it's precious. 

1486
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,500
It's precious. 
This show goes out to all the 

1487
01:13:19,500 --> 01:13:22,400
dreamers out there who want to 
pursue something that seems like

1488
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,700
a pipe dream that seems 
unlikely. 

1489
01:13:24,700 --> 01:13:26,300
That seems like you have no 
Talent. 

1490
01:13:26,300 --> 01:13:28,100
You shouldn't be wasting your 
time. 

1491
01:13:28,500 --> 01:13:32,200
This one goes out for all of 
you, all of us like there's so 

1492
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:35,600
many quotes in here, like, just 
trust yourself and keep going 

1493
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:37,500
happiness. 
Could be felt in the little 

1494
01:13:37,500 --> 01:13:39,100
details. 
You don't always have to achieve

1495
01:13:39,100 --> 01:13:41,300
something Grand, even if you 
make a mistake. 

1496
01:13:41,300 --> 01:13:42,800
Don't stop. 
Just keep going. 

1497
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:47,900
It's like Is like a love letter 
to the struggle, to the Grind, 

1498
01:13:47,900 --> 01:13:52,100
to trying something new, and 
it's beautiful. 

1499
01:13:52,100 --> 01:13:54,900
It's very encouraging. 
And I like that about the show, 

1500
01:13:54,900 --> 01:13:59,300
the just like the Grandeur 
themes of it, where you don't 

1501
01:13:59,300 --> 01:14:02,800
have to be a young spring 
chicken to learn ballet, which 

1502
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:08,100
is a highly technical athletic 
performance art and your goal 

1503
01:14:08,100 --> 01:14:11,100
doesn't have to be like Prima 
ballerina, right? 

1504
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,600
Of blah, blah blah like yeah, 
that is a good goal because it 

1505
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:15,300
but now, I'm ready. 
Gonna make that, you know, get 

1506
01:14:15,300 --> 01:14:16,900
there. 
And so just pursue is only for 

1507
01:14:16,900 --> 01:14:18,900
the sake of pursuing, it is also
valuable. 

1508
01:14:19,300 --> 01:14:24,200
Yeah, I loved that part of the 
show, I loved that, you know, 

1509
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:29,000
don't give up all of these like 
almost mantras that the show 

1510
01:14:29,100 --> 01:14:32,800
explores and talks directly to 
the audience at times. 

1511
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:34,600
It feels like in some of the 
dialogue. 

1512
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,600
Feels like it's like fourth wall
breaking because they're true. 

1513
01:14:37,700 --> 01:14:41,800
It's like so uplifting and 
they're speaking directly to you

1514
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:43,600
the audience. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1515
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:44,800
Seems like That. 
Yeah. 

1516
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:50,000
And then of course they put on 
all these extra clothes with all

1517
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:53,700
of the other subplots and it was
too much man. 

1518
01:14:53,700 --> 01:14:56,000
And I did I just still don't get
why it's best friend, like, it 

1519
01:14:56,008 --> 01:14:58,300
was like the worst best friend 
ever or like he was the worst 

1520
01:14:58,300 --> 01:15:01,600
best friend to him, like he was 
like, what is this relationship?

1521
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:05,900
But but yeah, he had a lot more 
love than he felt like he had 

1522
01:15:05,900 --> 01:15:08,500
and I thought that was 
interesting to show because he 

1523
01:15:08,500 --> 01:15:11,500
was so alone, but he wasn't. 
And then the new friends, the 

1524
01:15:11,508 --> 01:15:14,300
found family aspect of it with a
hot about Gee. 

1525
01:15:14,300 --> 01:15:17,800
But then how do I took him in 
immediately the his play cousin 

1526
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:21,200
his like, you know, his daughter
but she's granddaughter. 

1527
01:15:21,500 --> 01:15:26,000
That also was really touching. 
I thought, yeah, I thought nah, 

1528
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:28,800
Valletta means something in 
Spanish because to me when I 

1529
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:32,000
read I was like, oh, it says 
kind of side of it's a maybe 

1530
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:33,000
it's a Spanish word or 
something. 

1531
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,400
No, it's not. 
It's a Korean word that combines

1532
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,200
the word for butterfly with an 
old literary suffix. 

1533
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:42,200
And it roughly translates to 
like a butterfly. 

1534
01:15:42,700 --> 01:15:45,000
Yes. 
A flask. 

1535
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,700
God sorry. 
Not this time the Spanish 

1536
01:15:49,700 --> 01:15:50,500
Korean. 
Oh yeah. 

1537
01:15:50,500 --> 01:15:55,000
No drama crossover as Annabella.
Yeah it'll happen one day but 

1538
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:56,300
not yet. 
Yeah, no. 

1539
01:15:56,300 --> 01:16:00,100
This was not it but I love that 
the word has something to do 

1540
01:16:00,100 --> 01:16:03,100
with a butterfly and then there 
was a lot of aspects of the show

1541
01:16:03,100 --> 01:16:05,800
where they said a lot of 
dialogue, where they said, did 

1542
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,100
you soar? 
He's going to soar like an eagle

1543
01:16:08,500 --> 01:16:13,200
and just representing that sort 
of potential that is within both

1544
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:16,400
of them both songs character and
the hot emoji. 

1545
01:16:16,500 --> 01:16:19,900
I also like that they talked a 
lot about like how important is 

1546
01:16:19,900 --> 01:16:22,600
to practice basic steps. 
Even if you're a pro even if 

1547
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:26,200
you're like the the best 
ballerina and Korea like you 

1548
01:16:26,208 --> 01:16:29,500
still have to practice the based
you to go back to basics and not

1549
01:16:29,500 --> 01:16:32,400
neglect, how important that is 
or not neglect your body. 

1550
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:36,100
Like when the ballerina Coach 
Guy, ballerina coach guy was 

1551
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:37,300
injured but he like dance 
through it. 

1552
01:16:37,300 --> 01:16:39,600
Like those are all lessons. 
So many lessons in this show. 

1553
01:16:39,700 --> 01:16:42,100
Yes, it's lesson heavy but I 
like it. 

1554
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,300
That's what I like preachy way. 
No, no Ricci! 

1555
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,500
No, no, just encourage. 
It's touching, it's touching and

1556
01:16:48,500 --> 01:16:50,900
also butterfly. 
I know you haven't watched 

1557
01:16:50,900 --> 01:16:53,800
nevertheless but butterfly, 
nevertheless are directly 

1558
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,600
related and there's something 
about a tattoo and there's a 

1559
01:16:56,608 --> 01:16:59,900
like I don't want to say nothing
much but I don't want to spoil 

1560
01:16:59,900 --> 01:17:05,600
nevertheless but it's very 
fitting that this novel era also

1561
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,500
means like a butterfly for some 
time. 

1562
01:17:08,500 --> 01:17:11,400
Netflix. 
Son of Netflix Hong Kong, son of

1563
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:15,200
Netflix. 
Okay, I think I've reached the 

1564
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:16,400
end of my notes. 
Did you have anything? 

1565
01:17:16,500 --> 01:17:20,100
Thinking, oh my God. 
Oh my God, the sewing gook cameo

1566
01:17:20,100 --> 01:17:22,400
in episode. 
I know I was like, is that 

1567
01:17:22,407 --> 01:17:23,400
something good? 
Is that him? 

1568
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:25,400
Is that him? 
Like I was having a moment? 

1569
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,000
I was like, am I hallucinating 
this? 

1570
01:17:27,500 --> 01:17:30,700
Yeah, that was great. 
Yes, I freaked out and I'll tell

1571
01:17:30,700 --> 01:17:32,300
you something. 
I didn't think that I was such a

1572
01:17:32,300 --> 01:17:34,900
sewing, good fan. 
But every time like, he walked 

1573
01:17:34,900 --> 01:17:38,000
into the room and you don't even
see his face. 

1574
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:40,600
I just saw like silhouette like 
the his body and I was like is 

1575
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:42,800
that sawing? 
Gook apparently. 

1576
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,600
I know him by like the shape of 
his General body. 

1577
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,400
So I was like, Huh? 
I always liked impressed with 

1578
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:51,100
myself that I was like, oh God, 
it's something good. 

1579
01:17:51,100 --> 01:17:54,800
And they hadn't even done any 
close-ups on him yet, so kudos 

1580
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:59,000
to me for being a closet. 
Songo Super Fan apparently. 

1581
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:04,400
Yeah, that was, I was going to 
also mention that Taemin OST cuz

1582
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:08,300
I love him and I, it was like a 
such a easy breezy little song. 

1583
01:18:08,300 --> 01:18:10,800
It wasn't like, it wasn't like 
Taemin doing all his like 

1584
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:16,400
Tammany stuff, but it was like, 
it was like a sweet song. 

1585
01:18:16,500 --> 01:18:19,600
And his voice is really soothing
in that song. 

1586
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:21,700
And so that to me, that was like
a its own Cameo, right? 

1587
01:18:21,700 --> 01:18:23,700
Taemin. 
So, I can cook just like 

1588
01:18:23,900 --> 01:18:28,800
stealing the scenes. 
Yes, thank you for that. 

1589
01:18:29,100 --> 01:18:33,500
The 10-minute this one goes on. 
Yes, beautiful, all around. 

1590
01:18:34,100 --> 01:18:37,400
Is there anything else that you 
would like to add about Neville?

1591
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:42,800
Er, um, I wanted to add a little
bit about the webtoon writers. 

1592
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,000
What they said is something 
about doing ballet. 

1593
01:18:45,300 --> 01:18:49,100
So, the webtoon writer There's 
who also were part of the drama 

1594
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:52,600
creation or production or 
something they mentioned. 

1595
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,400
So this is from an article I'm 
just going to quote it. 

1596
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:58,600
It says Park of just parking on 
the person who played Hadji is 

1597
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,000
76 years old. 
Okay, so side note, he's playing

1598
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:04,200
a seven year old but he was 76 
and he does not look 76 whenever

1599
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,100
that might not look like this on
that. 

1600
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,900
But anyway it says Park is 76 
years old and while he may have 

1601
01:19:08,900 --> 01:19:11,500
found the ballet seems difficult
to Han said that he didn't want 

1602
01:19:11,500 --> 01:19:14,400
to cast a younger actor and you 
special makeup because he 

1603
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:16,400
thought it was important to get 
across the line. 

1604
01:19:16,500 --> 01:19:19,100
Lifetime's worth of wisdom 
through each word and wrinkle of

1605
01:19:19,100 --> 01:19:20,600
the actor. 
He added that he had. 

1606
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:25,500
No doubt that part could pull it
off and then for his part. 

1607
01:19:25,500 --> 01:19:27,600
Yeah, so cute. 
And I also appreciate like 

1608
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,500
again, reading, bringing more 
diversity and everything into 

1609
01:19:30,500 --> 01:19:33,200
kdramas is always important. 
So been considering like an 

1610
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:36,400
elder actors. 
Postal like aging young actor, I

1611
01:19:36,407 --> 01:19:39,000
thought was important and so 
park in one himself said in 

1612
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,500
another interview. 
He just I thought this was 

1613
01:19:41,500 --> 01:19:45,400
funny. 
He said it was challenging 

1614
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:46,400
enough that I had to wear 
ballet. 

1615
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:50,400
If it's that stuck to my body 
and park, when you become my 

1616
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,800
age, it's hard to exercise 
because your body gets stiffer. 

1617
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,800
I took on the challenge as if I 
was ductile and trying something

1618
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:57,100
new. 
So I thought that was really 

1619
01:19:57,100 --> 01:19:59,400
cool. 
Yeah, he also has granddaughters

1620
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:01,600
like laughed at him at the 
thought of him like doing ballet

1621
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:03,900
but that now they just keep 
playing it all his about Lacey. 

1622
01:20:03,900 --> 01:20:08,800
Oh, that's adorable. 
That's adorable. 

1623
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:10,800
Yeah, thanks for sharing that. 
That's beautiful. 

1624
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,400
And that, you know what, I was 
kind of right though, because it

1625
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:17,100
sounds like he was a little bit 
self-conscious about Out the 

1626
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,400
tight clothing that he wore. 
Yeah. 

1627
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:20,700
I mean, I know all times in 
Korea. 

1628
01:20:20,700 --> 01:20:23,100
A lot of men in leotards, our 
Tides will put on like shorts 

1629
01:20:23,100 --> 01:20:26,000
over it anyway. 
So yeah, I think like culturally

1630
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,800
yeah, that might have been a 
consideration but I did think to

1631
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,000
maybe they were because they 
could have just done my laughs 

1632
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,500
eat close-ups me didn't really 
do that as much either as I 

1633
01:20:33,500 --> 01:20:36,000
thought they might. 
So maybe like a combination of 

1634
01:20:36,100 --> 01:20:39,200
like modesty and we're not 
professionals out here. 

1635
01:20:41,100 --> 01:20:45,900
Yeah, well if that's all you 
have for Neville era, I 

1636
01:20:45,900 --> 01:20:48,300
definitely. 
Thank you so much for coming on 

1637
01:20:48,300 --> 01:20:51,600
and providing so much Insight. 
You did research for this which 

1638
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:55,000
is amazing. 
Not only like watching all this,

1639
01:20:55,100 --> 01:20:57,300
all these hours of Television 
but coming on and being so 

1640
01:20:57,300 --> 01:20:59,100
prepared. 
I want to thank you so much. 

1641
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:01,800
I hope you had a great time I 
did. 

1642
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:06,200
Okay, yeah, I love your podcast.
So, you know, where can we find 

1643
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:09,000
you online? 
For those who don't know, I'm on

1644
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,700
Twitter at Kpop bookshelf. 
And I'm on Instagram. 

1645
01:21:11,700 --> 01:21:13,800
I think it's Kpop bookshelf, 
pot, I don't know. 

1646
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,400
I forgot already like what my 
yeah, those are there Lil Bit. 

1647
01:21:16,500 --> 01:21:18,500
On each but I'm on Instagram 
more than Twitter. 

1648
01:21:18,500 --> 01:21:21,000
I can tell you that. 
So yeah, yes. 

1649
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:23,400
And you have wonderful book, 
recommendations, obviously, 

1650
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:26,800
because you're your podcast is 
about reading the book and then 

1651
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:29,700
discussing the book and I 
actually bought one of the books

1652
01:21:29,700 --> 01:21:32,000
that you recommended. 
It was like, yeah, the Korea, a 

1653
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:35,000
history book, and a beautiful 
cover on it. 

1654
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:37,900
I think you like, you got the 
hardback and I got the pipe, got

1655
01:21:37,900 --> 01:21:40,700
to pay for back because that was
like the only expensive 

1656
01:21:40,900 --> 01:21:43,200
expensive. 
But like I was like, so in love 

1657
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:44,500
with the cover and I was like, 
oh yeah. 

1658
01:21:44,500 --> 01:21:47,000
I want to read about Korean 
history from like An actual 

1659
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:50,600
expert and I think a lot of Kpop
and kdrama fans and not to say 

1660
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:52,800
this is good or bad, but 
sometimes we are a little bit 

1661
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,300
superficial about our knowledge 
of Korea and were just like 

1662
01:21:55,300 --> 01:21:56,000
yeah. 
Ramyun. 

1663
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,900
And Cho are like you take like 
weird little like to pop 

1664
01:21:58,900 --> 01:22:02,000
culture, a things and run with 
it and I am someone who is 

1665
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:03,700
likely what are they eating? 
What are they doing? 

1666
01:22:03,700 --> 01:22:05,700
What's the seonbae? 
Like I have like a thousand 

1667
01:22:05,700 --> 01:22:08,200
question so I was like I wanted 
to start the pockets as a way 

1668
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:11,200
for me to learn about Korean 
culture in a more in-depth way 

1669
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,800
so that gives better context to 
what I'm consuming from a media 

1670
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,100
standpoint. 
So beautiful love to hear it. 

1671
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,400
I love it. 
Thank you so much for coming on 

1672
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:22,900
the show again. 
Well, that's been our show. 

1673
01:22:22,900 --> 01:22:26,000
I'm Jessica and this has been 
the ATC presents daebak. 

1674
01:22:26,000 --> 01:23:01,700
He Rambles podcast. 
Moody fire.