1 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,160 I'm Jessica and this is Tabot K Rambles where a couple of 2 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,480 friends review Korean dramas and welcome back for another 3 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,000 episode. We are going to be reviewing 4 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,800 Connection. And for this episode I am joined 5 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,440 by my true crime crime thriller bestie, Caitlin from the No 6 00:00:37,480 --> 00:00:40,320 Sleep for Dramas podcast. How are you, Caitlin? 7 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,640 Hello, I'm good. I'm so excited I get a chance to 8 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:48,160 talk about this. Oh my God, So girl, like we have 9 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:51,600 been chatting on and off about this drama for a long time. 10 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,080 You're the one who put it on my radar because last year you said 11 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,080 it was in like your top five dramas of 2024. 12 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,720 And I said, whoa, what is this drama? 13 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,200 So we kind of were talking through and we were like, we 14 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,760 have to watch this drama. What if I, what if I covered it 15 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,440 on Tabak? Would you come on and review it 16 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:09,840 with me? And you were like absolutely, 17 00:01:09,960 --> 00:01:11,680 100%. I'll come on and review it with 18 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,040 you. So now the time has finally 19 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,680 come. I have watched it for the first 20 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,120 time. You have rewatched. 21 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,880 It. I'm just so excited, so excited. 22 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,920 To talk. I'm excited because, yeah, when 23 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,520 I watched this the first time, there were not a lot of people 24 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,800 who watched it for various reasons. 25 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,120 Like some of the dramas that were airing around the same time 26 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,720 were a lot more popular. Some people might not be fans of 27 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:40,320 G songs, so they skipped it. So like, I literally, it was 28 00:01:40,320 --> 00:01:45,680 like me and one other person on Instagram who were both watching 29 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,800 at the same time and we were both messaging each other. 30 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,280 And I, I have to remember who it was because I don't remember off 31 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,200 the top of my head right now. But we were both like, thank God 32 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,440 you're watching this. I need to talk about it with 33 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:55,840 somebody. Yeah. 34 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:58,840 If you remember the game, shut them out. 35 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,240 But I will, I, I'll, I'll look it up or maybe I'll give it to 36 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,800 you after and I'll you can put it in the notes or something. 37 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,880 Yeah, because honestly, this show, no, like barely anybody 38 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,560 was talking. I think I saw one person on 39 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,440 TikTok talking about connection and really it was not in a lot 40 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,440 of top ten, top five lists at the end of the year. 41 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,520 Creators just were not talking about this. 42 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,440 K drama. And I like to genre hop. 43 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,000 I like to dip my toes into a lot of different genres. 44 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,160 I don't just stick with romance. I don't just stick with slice of 45 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,840 life. I like dark and gritty dramas 46 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,160 and this one really grabbed my attention from the get go. 47 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,520 So before we get into it though, if this is your first time 48 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,440 listening, go ahead and subscribe on your favorite 49 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,040 podcast app. We're on Apple podcast, Spotify 50 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,880 and many more. And if you like us, please give 51 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,320 us a five star review on Apple Podcast and Spotify. 52 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,600 And if you like the episode, you can go ahead and actually 53 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,360 comment on the episode itself. 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All right, so we're going to 65 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,640 deep dive on connection. I have some notes. 66 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,200 I'm not sure if you have notes or if you're just going to wing 67 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,000 it because. I'm winging it. 68 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,480 I usually do. Caitlin doesn't show up with 69 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,480 notes, she just like wings it every time. 70 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,280 And I respect that. I respect that. 71 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,040 I really do. So we're going to start off as 72 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,520 always with the My Drama list synopsis for this non spoiler 73 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,080 section, it reads. Detective Dong De Kyung of 74 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,960 Onions Narcotics Unit is forcibly addicted to a 75 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,600 mysterious drug as his body deteriorates. 76 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,280 Reporter All Yunjin, his former high school friend, investigates 77 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,240 a drug related death and crosses paths with him again. 78 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,320 Their pursuit of the truth entangles them with Gung Hyung 79 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,519 Groups vice chairman and a prosecutor unraveling a dark 80 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:23,880 conspiracy tied to $50 million. As betrayals surface, Jake Young 81 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,080 bows retribution. But who is the real mastermind 82 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:33,440 and who will survive the battle? This aired from May to July 83 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,040 2024. So happy anniversary, one year 84 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,840 anniversary to Connection. Because when this episode airs, 85 00:04:39,840 --> 00:04:42,640 it will be, I think, a May 8th release. 86 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,320 This originally aired at the end of May. 87 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,000 But that's OK, We'll just give it the one year anniversary. 88 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,880 Happy one year. Some of the other dramas that 89 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,920 aired around this time, you mentioned that maybe this would 90 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,680 affect it. You know, the popularity of 91 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,040 Connection. Midnight Romans and Hogwan aired 92 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,200 May 11th and was airing around the same time. 93 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:10,480 The Atypical Family aired May 4th and Crash aired May 13th. 94 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,920 So some other dramas that we're cooking around this time, 95 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,280 there's other ones too, but I just thought, oh, these were 96 00:05:16,280 --> 00:05:18,920 like a little more popular than maybe some of some of the other 97 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,160 ones. This show is 14 episodes long, 98 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:28,160 1/4 and it looks like it has two directors, Kim Moon Kyo who's 99 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,880 directed Trolley and Lovers of the Red Sky and Quan Dassam 100 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,400 who's directed My Demon and Trolley. 101 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,400 So these directors have worked together twice on Trolley and 102 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,080 Connection. It's written by Ehion. 103 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,680 For some reason it looks like this person has only done 2 104 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,720 projects, Connection and Diary of a Prosecutor. 105 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,640 Wow, that's a very, very different genre. 106 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,520 So so you've watched some of these shows like have you 107 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,880 watched Trolley I? Have actually not watched any of 108 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,360 them. Trolley has been on my list 109 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,360 forever because I've heard very good things about it. 110 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,600 I have not watched Diary of a Prosecutor. 111 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,760 I've heard, again, very good things, but it's more of like a 112 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,920 slice of life for a prosecutor's life. 113 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,040 And so I'm very wishy washy when it comes to slice of life genre. 114 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,040 So I just haven't checked it out, but a couple of people have 115 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,000 been like, dying for me to watch it. 116 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,200 Gotcha. So, yeah, yeah. 117 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,680 All right, this show does have a large cast, a large ensemble 118 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,760 cast, but I'm only gonna focus on two people right now. 119 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:37,080 We can talk about other ones. Maybe that drew your eye in the 120 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,440 cast, but we have Ji Song as Zhang Jakyong. 121 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,640 He's the cop. He's been married to actress 122 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,680 Eboo Yong since 2013. They've been dating since 2007. 123 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:52,440 I hear from people in my DMS that this is a nice couple, that 124 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,360 they are, you know, well liked, well respected in the industry. 125 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,960 I have watched her in some dramas as well. 126 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,440 Ji Song has 6 movies to his name, 23 TV shows to his name 127 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,000 including Adamas the Devil, Judge, Doctor John, Familiar 128 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,120 Wife, Kill Me Heal me. Would you believe me if I said 129 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,840 this is my very first G Song drama? 130 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:19,240 Yes, I actually would. Yeah, yeah, 'cause I also have 131 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,520 not watched a lot of his famous ones. 132 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:25,360 Like again, the Devil Judge has been on my list to check out 133 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,840 forever. I still haven't clicked play, so 134 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,760 I actually am not really surprised by that. 135 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,200 Yeah, here's what I'll say about G Song. 136 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,000 I have always known of his existence. 137 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:43,040 I know of his, you know, career. I have seen the posters, I've 138 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:47,280 seen the trailers for his shows and have just never, ever felt 139 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:52,000 the urge to press play on anything, whether it be the plot 140 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,680 is kind of like I never felt drawn to any of his projects. 141 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,120 And maybe it's because in his younger years, I kind of didn't, 142 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,680 I think he looked very attractive. 143 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,920 This sounds weird to say because he's not ugly to me. 144 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,560 I just don't maybe. And I said this in Adm to 145 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,440 somebody because they were talking about how hot he is. 146 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,880 And I was like, he looks like a gecko to me. 147 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,160 Like, you know, some people just have a look to them and there's 148 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,000 no rhyme or reason. You're just like, that person 149 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,120 reminds me of a llama. And like you're just like, 150 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:22,760 there's no, it's, it's irrational. 151 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,600 Geez. It just looks like a gecko, a 152 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:32,360 very angular gecko face to me. And again, a very rational 153 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,000 thought. I have no beef at all with G 154 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,600 Song. However, I thought in connection 155 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,080 him being, oh, what is he like in his 40s now? 156 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:49,240 Has he has to be like in his 40s him, in his 40s him? 157 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,400 With he's almost 50. He's 48. 158 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,520 Oh, 48. OK, so he's 48. 159 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,560 He's 48. OK, so he's 48 years old. 160 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:03,200 And him with the police. Get up with the chunky black 161 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,560 jacket. Listen to me. 162 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:10,560 I was salivating. I was like, this is it like, I 163 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,480 love this look. I thought he was so hot. 164 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:15,520 Sorry. Like, sue me. 165 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,200 I thought he looked so attractive in connection. 166 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:25,680 Maybe it's just, you know, age meeting the right aesthetic 167 00:09:25,680 --> 00:09:28,000 look, right? I don't know. 168 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,840 I don't know. But him and connection really 169 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,280 connected with me. Nice one. 170 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:36,440 Nice one. Yeah, yeah. 171 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,560 OK so his main Co star is Chon me though she plays O Yunjin. 172 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,000 Quickly going back the the dramas I have seen him in Oh 173 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,120 yes, please were well, obviously kill me, heal me. 174 00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:52,320 That's like one of his most famous roles ever. 175 00:09:52,560 --> 00:09:56,360 I don't remember much of it, but I definitely have watched it. 176 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,800 And then I've watched most of like his more crazier dramas 177 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:07,560 like secret, which is like a Uber mahjong crazy, crazy drama, 178 00:10:07,560 --> 00:10:09,040 which I probably need to rewatch. 179 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:15,120 Defendant I've watched is a unbelievably good crime drama 180 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:20,040 like this is probably defendants my second favorite role of his, 181 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:25,400 but it's one of those like really, really well acclaimed 182 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,320 crime dramas and he's the star of it. 183 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,920 And then that's pretty much it. That's I've like watched a 184 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,600 really, really classic and then some more classic but crazier, 185 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,200 crazier dramas of his. Any of his more recent ones I 186 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,800 have not though. OK, OK, I thought you might have 187 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,440 watched some recent ones. The one that I almost feel like 188 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,720 I was closest to pressing play on was Familiar Wife. 189 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,160 Yeah, I've heard. I've heard good things, like if 190 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,200 it's a genre that works for you, it's just not a genre that works 191 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,840 for me. So I didn't click play on. 192 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,240 Yeah, I've always wanted to watch Adamus, but I have. 193 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:03,040 It's one of those things where I haven't heard anybody talk about 194 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,960 the show, so I don't know if it's good or bad. 195 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,160 Which means I should probably just check it out, because 196 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,080 again, connection no one was talking about. 197 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,880 It true. The thing is, I think when no 198 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,280 one talks about shows and we're like, man, I wonder if it's any 199 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,560 good, you're looking at the people who should be watching it 200 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,800 then. Because I think at this point, 201 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:26,240 we're the people who are checking out shows and telling 202 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:27,600 others. That they should have watched. 203 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,040 Them or not. Also, for like the longest time, 204 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,720 Adamus wasn't available anywhere in the United States. 205 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:37,000 It is now available, but it took at least a year, if not longer, 206 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,480 for it to become available overseas. 207 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,760 Yeah, that's the thing too, is that a lot of shows, especially 208 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,600 older ones, may or may not be available in your region through 209 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,480 reputable means. So you know G Song? 210 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,400 Also G Song has been famous for a really long time. 211 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,640 Really long time. And I feel like a lot of people 212 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,280 might not know him. Right. 213 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,720 Yeah, yeah, because it's not necessarily he doesn't, he 214 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,160 hasn't like stepped back from making noise. 215 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,760 I think he makes at least like once A1A year. 216 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,800 He already has one lined up for next year. 217 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,720 I don't think it's coming out this year, but he's not a 218 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:18,840 traffic star per SE anymore, whereas back in the day he was. 219 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:23,160 I mean, I wouldn't say he lost any of his fame because as you 220 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,640 said, he's he and his wife are very beloved in Korea and they 221 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,000 go on variety shows all the time, especially the married 222 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,400 ones. But I would say he's not the 223 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,240 traffic star that he was 15 years ago or something. 224 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,200 Right, right. So that's Jason. 225 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:44,880 His Co star John Middo plays Oyunjin and she's only been in 226 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:49,040 like 4 dramas and I remember covering her in Hospital 227 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,160 Playlist. This is where people will know 228 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,160 her best from. She's the neurosurgeon in 229 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,960 Hospital Playlist one and two, she has a background in theatre. 230 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,120 Hospital Playlist was basically her first major TV role and 231 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,000 obviously she can actually sing in real life. 232 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:12,760 She was in 39 in 2022 and I was pleasantly surprised to see her 233 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:17,680 in episode 1 of Connection and she plays just a huge role 234 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,520 throughout the show. What do you What is your 235 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:25,840 experience with John Nido? So I started watching 39 but I 236 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,440 eventually dropped it. So that is my, that was my only 237 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,240 prior experience of her. And of course I've heard of 238 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,840 Hospital Playlist, but that's not a genre I will ever watch, 239 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,280 so I'm never going to be watching that. 240 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:43,160 Yeah, but. Medical slice of life, right? 241 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,560 I can't imagine that you'd press clay on that. 242 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,360 Right, I actually did try just because I was curious about it 243 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,600 and I was like Nope I need like trauma code version of medical 244 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,640 show, not this. Not this. 245 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,720 It's so light and sweet and they're singing and it's like, 246 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,240 OK. Yeah, yeah. 247 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,560 So yeah, this is really my first full drama I have watched of 248 00:14:05,560 --> 00:14:07,360 her. She was great in 39. 249 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,960 I did like her character in 39 but the story just didn't work 250 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,280 for me. OK, yeah, it didn't work for a 251 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:14,600 lot of people. I I never. 252 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,800 Yeah, I know that a lot of people dropped that drop. 253 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,520 A lot of people were bitching about that show anyway, So tell 254 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,760 me though is in this show and is there anybody else that you 255 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,920 wanted to cover from the? Yeah, I want to touch base on 256 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,280 Quan Yul. OK, OK, Talk to me about South. 257 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,920 He plays Pactigeon. Yes. 258 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,480 And the the reason I want to point him out is he had a really 259 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:38,720 big year last year. Oh. 260 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,480 Did he? Yeah, he he's always been 261 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,680 around. He's always been supporting 262 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,760 characters and kind of just showing up everywhere. 263 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:52,520 I mean, he was in voice, he was in Connection, he was in Dolly 264 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,280 and the Cocky Prince. Like he he's been acting for a 265 00:14:55,280 --> 00:15:00,120 while, but last year it seemed like he was consecutively in a 266 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:05,840 drama like all year. So last year he was in frankly 267 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,160 speaking, which was just a guess role and that aired. 268 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,640 It was in May. So around the same time of 269 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,560 connection, then he did connection, then he did Sweet 270 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,680 Mobster, which he was ironically also a prosecutor, I think. 271 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,400 Because he did it so well. Yeah, and I think Sweet Mobster, 272 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,160 like, aired right after this. Like it was connection and then 273 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,000 it was Sweet Mobster. Yeah. 274 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,560 And then he showed up in Cinderella at 2:00 AM. 275 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,880 It was only a couple, like a guest role for a couple 276 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,200 episodes, but he was consistently on people's TV. 277 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,320 Screens for like. Six months. 278 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:45,240 That's the way you got to do. It right, which that was a lot 279 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,400 for him. He only does like two or three 280 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,040 or one or two dramas a year. If you look at his MDL. 281 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,680 So like to have three dramas was a lot. 282 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,160 And so I remember just, I remember when I was commenting 283 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,160 of like, wow, he's doing a lot this year. 284 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,120 And it's like good roles, like it's ones that people remember 285 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,320 him if they were watching. Every voice. 286 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,640 Yeah, that's where I know him from. 287 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,640 I was introduced to him in the Voice franchise, which they're 288 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,320 making my. Fairly from 2009. 289 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:20,880 Oh yeah. Dude. 290 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,920 Oh, he was in Let's Eat too. No wonder I thought he looked 291 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,240 familiar. Anyway, so that's our cast. 292 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,080 Anybody else that you wanted to talk about? 293 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:34,040 Well, you have Kim, King Nam, who people love and know very 294 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,120 well, and then you. Have I didn't know. 295 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:41,640 I mean, I know that he, I was surprised he was in this cast 296 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:46,880 because he hadn't done a drama in three years like this was, 297 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,360 and I couldn't remember if it was because he did the. 298 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,280 Military. Or he just was. 299 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,080 Where Stars Land, About Time, Come and hug me, Prison 300 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:55,680 Playbook. So I remember him from Prison 301 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,720 Playbook, which there's an episode on that. 302 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,960 Yeah, and Come and Hug me was a very prominent role for him too. 303 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,640 He was also in defendant. He was, You just mentioned 304 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,920 defending. He was defended as CL's 305 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,640 secretary. I don't know. 306 00:17:10,079 --> 00:17:13,040 Yes, yeah. And so, yeah, this was a this 307 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,480 was a surprise to me because like, he hadn't done the drama 308 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,640 in three years. And I was like, oh, you're in 309 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,400 this drama. Interesting. 310 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,520 OK. And it was a role I had never 311 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,160 seen him do because I don't want to do spoilers, so I'm not going 312 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,119 to say what his role was. We'll be doing that later. 313 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,160 And then the last person I want to mention is Jung Yu Min. 314 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:36,000 She was the lead from my perfect My perfect Marriage Revenge, 315 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,160 which again, like my perfect marriage revenge was her like 316 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,120 comeback drama. She hadn't been in the drama for 317 00:17:43,120 --> 00:17:46,080 years. And then she pops up in this and 318 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,720 I'm like, oh, you're like riding that wave. 319 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,520 Like people were excited to see her because they had just come 320 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:57,600 off of perfect marriage revenge, which she was excellent in and I 321 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,000 think she was excellent in this one. 322 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:03,080 So I find that it's I, it's funny that like a, a bunch of 323 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,240 these support characters have been acting for a really long 324 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,160 time and kind of use this as a comeback. 325 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,640 It was. A nice vehicle for everybody. 326 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,560 Yeah, because it like it was an ensemble drama. 327 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:20,280 Like obviously, yes, it was about G Song and the trio of him 328 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,960 and we'll get into that. But like the the other 329 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:27,800 supporting characters that you had still had pretty prominent 330 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,520 roles in this. Yeah, no, because how of how 331 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,160 well written it was. Right, right. 332 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,600 Yeah, so. I just wanted to point that out, 333 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:40,720 all right? Do we want to go into the awards 334 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,000 it got? Oh, sure. 335 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:47,240 Really quick OK, so I'm if people don't know I, I watch all 336 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:51,000 of the Korean drama awards on New Year's Day, like I'm 337 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:55,120 marathon them and that is like how I start out my year every 338 00:18:55,120 --> 00:18:56,520 single year. I've been doing it for five 339 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,960 years. So I watch the SBS, I watch the 340 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:03,040 like the three major networks. So this one, this is. 341 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:07,600 SBS. This is SBS so Jung me Do won 342 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,360 the top Excellence Award for a specialized genre or action 343 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:14,120 miniseries, and I want to say this was like her first award 344 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:16,720 she had ever won ever She. Barely has a career. 345 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:18,640 Not that she barely has a career. 346 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:23,040 She barely has a resume, especially compared to a lot of 347 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,960 the cast. Yeah, like this is the same 348 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,200 network that aired Flex Cop and Good Partner. 349 00:19:28,360 --> 00:19:30,320 Yeah. So like Good Partner was winning 350 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,680 a lot of awards. The judge from Hell was the same 351 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,560 network, Fiery Prince was the same network. 352 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:43,440 So let's see Kuan Yu one as a supporting actor, Kim Kyung Nam 353 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:48,120 1, You Some Bong 1 and Jung Yu Min all one for best supporting 354 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:53,320 actor. So basically all the friends and 355 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:59,040 Kimmy Ju won best new actor Kimmin Ju, which is one of the 356 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,160 high school students. With. 357 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,800 The one of the actors who played the high school students and 358 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,800 then it won best drama of the year. 359 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:11,160 Like it won the big, big award for the drama thing. 360 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,560 Obviously G Sum was up for day song, but he didn't win. 361 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,040 It was good partner, which made sense. 362 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,240 But yes, these award shows kind of are like everybody gets an 363 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,200 award type of thing. But that's how I feel like I 364 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,640 never it was. Yeah, yeah. 365 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:30,280 I never report on that. I know everybody wins one. 366 00:20:30,360 --> 00:20:34,800 Yes, it would be as if a network, as if The CW was giving 367 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:39,200 out awards for all The CW shows that aired that year. 368 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,560 And it's like, OK, it's just a pat on the back of the network. 369 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,840 So I never kind of put stock in those. 370 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,840 But yeah, absolutely. I feel like these people are 371 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,840 definitely deserved some recognition, especially at the 372 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:56,920 larger award ceremonies like Pak Song and the Blue Dragon Awards 373 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,480 and stuff like that. The but they it did not. 374 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:02,760 Right, it didn't. But what I will say though is 375 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,800 given the competition of last year for SBS with good partner 376 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,600 everything, I was surprised they even got awards because good 377 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,680 partner with the ratings. This did really good in Korea, 378 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,760 but good partner, like swept it out of like swept everything. 379 00:21:18,120 --> 00:21:22,200 So I wasn't expecting anybody to get awards at all, let alone be 380 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,200 nominated so. Yeah, I was looking at the 381 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,000 ratings for it and it was good for basically consistently 382 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,880 second place in Seoul and nationwide. 383 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,520 And so I was like, well, that that's not bad at all. 384 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,560 It was, it ended up with like 14% of viewership. 385 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:42,440 So that's fantastic for what it is, and considering nobody in 386 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,720 the international audience or the international sphere was 387 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:50,360 necessarily talking about it. So this show did fairly well. 388 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,240 So yeah, I'm going to switch gears and ask you, what did you 389 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,480 think of Connection? I think everybody knows what he 390 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,000 thought generally, but you know, please, in your own words. 391 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,880 So for me, it's nearly a perfect crime drama. 392 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,600 For me, there was one thing at the end I did not like and I did 393 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,920 not think was necessary. We can get into that, but I can 394 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,640 ignore that one thing. So I will say it's a 5 out of 395 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,040 five for me. I, I can, it wasn't necessary. 396 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,680 I could have done without it. Rewatching it, I kind of 397 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,120 understood more why they put it in there. 398 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,080 But my first like watch of this, I was like, oh, why are we 399 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,840 adding this thing? It's not needed, blah blah blah. 400 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:37,680 I gave it a 9.5 out of 10 due to that small minuscule thing that 401 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,720 they added at the end. I can ignore that now, but I say 402 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,680 it's 5 out of 5 for me. Wow, so you're already giving it 403 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:50,560 5 out of five toju bottles and you have very minuscule 404 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,640 complaints about it? Yes. 405 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,120 OK, Yep, Yep. All right, I will go ahead and 406 00:22:56,120 --> 00:22:59,480 say I fucking love this show. I had a fantastic time with this 407 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,080 show. I was messaging you throughout 408 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:06,080 my watch in all caps. I was sending you really 409 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:11,000 panicked messages because the experience of watching this was 410 00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:15,960 second to none. This was a wild, wild ride. 411 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:21,680 It was a Mr. A murder mystery. It was a crime thriller. 412 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:26,840 It was a noir. It was just the seedy, underbill 413 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:30,440 corruption. It was everything all at once. 414 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:35,480 It wasn't just one thing. And I loved this paranoia, like 415 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:40,280 running through it because of Chi Song's character, not 416 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,640 knowing who to trust, not knowing who got him addicted to 417 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:49,080 drugs and who knows and you know all these things. 418 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:54,040 Who can he trust? And I love the the concept of 419 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,400 ethics and morality in not just the police force, but also in 420 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:03,160 journalism with Tonido's character of Eunjin. 421 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,760 I love that. I loved the friends group, who 422 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,040 is the one that kind of like received all the awards. 423 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,520 You named all the actors, but that ensemble group. 424 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,880 Really cool to see them in action and to see how all of the 425 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,800 roles are split up because they each have a function within the 426 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,800 group and you're not quite sure what they do until like, because 427 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,120 it plays out right. Like you're just not everything 428 00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:32,680 is given to you all at the same time. 429 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,240 And I love that. I love how they're it's drip 430 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,800 drip instead of drip marketing drip storytelling you. 431 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,640 Basically find out when the characters find out, which is in 432 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,680 my in my opinion, the best way to do a crime show. 433 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,880 Yes, yes. And everybody knows, not 434 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,680 everybody, but I would say a vast majority of people who 435 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:58,600 consume Korean dramas and Asian media kind of understand 436 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:04,360 implicitly that Korea has some of the strictest narcotics laws 437 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:09,520 and are the hardest on drugs. If you do drugs outside of Korea 438 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,240 and you come back, they can still pick you up for that. 439 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,160 They will still go after you for that. 440 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,640 People have gone down. People have committed suicide 441 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,240 over getting drug allegations thrown at them, right? 442 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,920 It is like a death sentence for your career in Korea. 443 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,640 If you are some sort of entertainer and you get caught 444 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,960 up in drug allegations and the fact that this is a narcotics 445 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:34,840 unit and the cop is the one that got addicted, I Oh my God, I was 446 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,240 like living. I remember when they announced 447 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,760 this story and I was like, how the hell are they going to pull 448 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,160 that off? Because I know, like, just from 449 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,280 what you said just now, like they have the strictest drug 450 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,240 laws. How is that going to be received 451 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,960 by the public who's grown up in this society that has a very 452 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,680 strict drug law? Because in like America, we have 453 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,040 drugs in our shows all the time. It comes to like, because it's 454 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,840 kind of dude. Your neighbor down the street 455 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:01,840 is. Addicted to drugs? 456 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,040 Exactly. Yeah, and they have a full time 457 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,120 job. They they pay their bills on 458 00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:09,040 time. Like it's crazy here in America. 459 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,560 Yeah, so I thought they pulled it off very well. 460 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,640 It like exceeded my expectations just because I didn't really 461 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,480 know what to expect. Yes, yes, there is so much 462 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,520 anxiety in this show. I love the reveals. 463 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,360 The cliffhangers at the end of every episode had me pressing 464 00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:31,000 place it's so freaking hard. Imagine me watching this week by 465 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:31,520 week. Oh no. 466 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,640 I don't know how you did it. I do not know how you did it 467 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,160 because it was so compelling. It was so engaging. 468 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,640 I was guessing different things. I had all these theories and 469 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,800 then all this at the same time. I was like, I don't even know. 470 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,560 Live and let God like I don't even know. 471 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,200 Right, I just. Let him go. 472 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:54,000 I likened the experience of watching this to watching Uncut 473 00:26:54,000 --> 00:27:02,760 Gems or Uncut Gems the Julia Fox audio. 474 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,480 My sister reminded me of it the other day. 475 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:08,760 Anyway, Unka Gems for those who don't know, is an Adam Sandler 476 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,960 movie that is not a typical Adam Sandler movie. 477 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,560 Like he could have been nominated for an Oscar for it. 478 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:20,520 It is an anxiety inducing ride that does not let up on the gas 479 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,800 pedal I had to put. I told you this yesterday when 480 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,840 we were recording. I had to put my head between my 481 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,000 legs at the end of the the theater showing when I watch 482 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,960 Uncut Gems because I was like hyperventilate. 483 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,240 I like could not stop my heart from pounding out of my chest 484 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,440 after Uncut Gems. So that's how I felt watching 485 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:47,120 Connection, and I was so thrilled with every part of it. 486 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,520 I do have, like, little qualms with it, but for the most part, 487 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,560 I loved it the way that it was filmed. 488 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,320 Oh my gosh, yeah. My gosh. 489 00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:03,480 I thought it was so well done. It was visceral and tactile. 490 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,960 The experience, watching him struggle with his addiction and 491 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,640 with the withdrawal symptoms, him stumbling around, 492 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,280 collapsing, disorientation, headaches, extreme sweating. 493 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,440 He was pale. Like all these things were also 494 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,240 told visually, like on screen and the way that it was shot. 495 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,120 I keep saying like the way it was shot, the way that it was 496 00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:26,920 edited. They had like first person POV 497 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,880 shots. Yeah, yeah. 498 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,560 I love those like every time they do this I'm like, this is 499 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,040 entirely effective every time. Gives you that disorienting 500 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,440 effect of losing control, losing your balance. 501 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,120 There's a shot, and this isn't necessarily a spoiler, but 502 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:45,920 there's a shot of CEO Yoon. She has like a, a person behind 503 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,680 her comes out from a hidden door behind her, looking kind of 504 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,560 haggard and blocking what's in the room behind him because it's 505 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,320 like a hidden door that he emerges from. 506 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,320 And when he moves out of the doorway, it reveals what's 507 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,280 behind him in the room. And it's a body that's hanging. 508 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,560 It's a man strung up, evidently being tortured. 509 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,960 And it is so shocking. That's a visual shock to the 510 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,840 audience, right? I love when they set up things 511 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:13,720 like that. Right. 512 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,720 And it gives you a like she already had a presence, but this 513 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,360 adds to. Yes. 514 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,560 Her presence and her lore of her character. 515 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,320 Exactly. I loved it. 516 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,520 It was she was so nonchalant, like she was in the foreground, 517 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,240 just really chill. And this is happening behind 518 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,160 her, some sort of henchman evidently killing or torturing 519 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,960 somebody in this hidden room behind her. 520 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,880 I'm like, Oh my God, this adds so much. 521 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,080 But I love the editing and the blocking of that. 522 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,760 There's an elevator shot of the prosecuted character and G Song 523 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,440 and G Song is behind and the prosecutors in the foreground 524 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,560 and they do deep focus photography. 525 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,400 I love when they do deep focus photography where it's both 526 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,720 characters or both people. Foreground and background are 527 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,840 both in focus. That's where deep focus comes 528 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,880 from. And it's very Hitchcockian, 529 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,360 right? Hitchcock used to do this all 530 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,600 the time. And you see the stressed dipshit 531 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:16,480 prosecutor asking questions and nervous and then answering these 532 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,880 questions back to G Song, who's behind him. 533 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,600 You understand implicitly that the male lead G Song has the 534 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,560 upper hand, right? Right. 535 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,640 Yeah. It's just so effective. 536 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,560 They changed the aspect ratio for flashbacks. 537 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,400 They narrowed it with the bigger. 538 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,320 Color grading too. And the integrating too. 539 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,040 Yeah, bigger letterbox lettering on the top and bottom. 540 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,080 Oh my God, just so expertly done. 541 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,480 I loved everything about it. So I love that the show was 542 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:51,040 constantly surprising you and subverting exectations because 543 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,400 it wasn't just like twist. It was like, oh, and here's 544 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,800 something else about this character that you didn't know. 545 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:02,720 Right, yeah, it reminded me of AI mean we I know Liliana has 546 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,480 talked about this show and I also have talked about this 547 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:10,720 show, but murder in something something tower. 548 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,720 It's the Chinese crime show. I can't remember it, but it this 549 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,840 is the same thing is like all the episode. 550 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,720 The first episode is a perspective one person and then 551 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,520 you learn something about something from that perspective. 552 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,320 And then they the next episode goes to the next perspective, 553 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,040 you learn something new and it goes on like that. 554 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,680 This, this is kind of it's not explicitly like that in 555 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,040 connection, but it I felt like it was like that because you 556 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,680 again are learning as Joo Sung finds things out or Jung Bido's 557 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,240 character finds things out. And then that show you learn as 558 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,480 the cops who are investigating find things out. 559 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:48,920 So it's the same thing. Yeah. 560 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,920 Anything else you wanted to add before I I don't want to say too 561 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,640 much else, I kind of just want to get into spoilers. 562 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,600 Well, what's your what's your rating? 563 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,040 I would probably do five. I would also probably do 5 cool 564 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,400 5 out of five hold you bottles because I loved it. 565 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,480 So you're like me, like you had some qualms with it, but like 566 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,920 you could overlook them. I can and still give. 567 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,160 Five out of five. Just such a ride. 568 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,720 Yeah, yeah. Such a ride. 569 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,720 And I, my sister, I think she was downstairs as I was watching 570 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:25,440 some episodes yesterday and she goes, I heard you earlier and I 571 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,120 was like, what do you mean? She's like, I heard you watching 572 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,200 that show. I heard you go. 573 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,520 I knew it from all the way upstairs. 574 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,000 I'm screaming. I knew it and like just it was 575 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:42,480 such a great watch experience and my only fear is that if I go 576 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:47,400 and rewatch it, it won't live up to the first time I watch it 577 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,640 because I already know what's coming. 578 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,000 Maybe you can speak to this because you've rewatched. 579 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,160 It I would say, I would say to some extent, yes, because yeah, 580 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,480 like part of the first time watches, like you don't know 581 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,200 what's coming, but you will notice other things that you 582 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,080 might have missed. Like I said, I did, I still 583 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,960 disliked the one thing in the end, but I noticed something 584 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:16,160 about it that I didn't realize in the first watch that made me 585 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:21,280 dislike it a little less. I still disliked it, but still. 586 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,480 So I would say if you want to rewatch this, give it time 587 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,840 though, because you might forget some of the details, you know, 588 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,200 because I I for sure did, even though I just watched this last 589 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,320 year. I was like, Oh yeah, that's 590 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,920 right. That's how this played out. 591 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,360 Yeah. So, but yeah, I it definitely 592 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,400 you lose that shock factor a lot of the time. 593 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,840 What are some comps maybe that people, if they're on the fence 594 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,520 about watching it, if they've watched these other shows or 595 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,000 they like to these other shows, then definitely. 596 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,920 Watch connection. That's a hard question because 597 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,320 again, this is like the first ever like drug drama. 598 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:07,800 I've like drum K drama. I've ever watched defendant. 599 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,000 I will always say defendant like it's just such a good crime 600 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,400 drought and it's one of those things again, where it's like 601 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,199 it's revealed after and after and after that. 602 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,080 Trying to think of ones that would be like shock value. 603 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,639 I kind of thought stranger was a little bit. 604 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,600 Stranger would fit in there. The Memorist probably is a good 605 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,560 one that's like a little underrated, but it definitely 606 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,239 went places that I didn't think it would go. 607 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,120 I would say voice to an extent like that was a pretty. 608 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,440 It's visceral in the way that this show is visceral. 609 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,440 It is definitely gory and things this isn't as gory as voice at 610 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,600 all. Yeah, I would say that if you're 611 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:55,600 afraid of blood and guts and butchering of people, really 612 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,360 this, this show doesn't have that at all. 613 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,560 Right. But yeah, I would say like 614 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,640 defendant if you're looking for like the shock value, Stranger 615 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:07,600 if you're looking for like the corruption part of it, voice if 616 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,000 you're just looking for a classic crime drama. 617 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,760 Yeah, yeah. Those are three I can think off 618 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,560 of the top of my head. I'd add signal for like just a 619 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,080 fantastical. Yeah. 620 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,400 Supernatural side of yeah crime fighting anyway we're going to 621 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,880 break for spoilers and talk about everything that happens in 622 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,360 connection and I can't wait to do it we're going to get back to 623 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:33,240 it right after this excuse me I. Can't tell. 624 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,000 I can't tell you know I have no signal. 625 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,960 Oh sorry, swear. Discussing what? 626 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,880 All right, we're on the other side of spoilers. 627 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:52,040 We really have not talked about any details regarding 628 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,160 connection. If you do not want to be 629 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,960 spoiled, you need to stop now, watch the show and come back 630 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,800 later. If you don't care, if you want 631 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,760 to spoil yourself, then fine, keep listening. 632 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,000 Or if you've watched, then of course, keep listening. 633 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,720 All right, the first surprise that I've wanted to talk about 634 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,480 was that. I'm diving in, right? 635 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,360 I'm. Diving right the fucking so join 636 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,920 me though, who is you know the basically the one of the only 637 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,800 female characters in the show. She was our hospital playlist 638 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,720 girl. Maybe we'll just call her 639 00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:25,160 hospital playlist journalist girl. 640 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,960 You see her in episode 1. Yunjin is the name of the 641 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:38,720 character and I was jaw on the floor because she is a corrupt 642 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,960 journalist who takes bribes and can be bought. 643 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:47,600 She's even extorting money from the guy sitting across from her 644 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,560 who's like some representative from some company there who's 645 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,000 done some wrong and I. Was. 646 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,520 Shocked, because let me tell you something, she's like an Angel. 647 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,000 In a. Hospital playlist An Angel. 648 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:07,000 So to see her in the show was a shock to the system. 649 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,160 I loved how morally Gray she was. 650 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,800 Yeah, and she's consistently morally Gray. 651 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,680 It wasn't like just that scene. No, I remember being so angry at 652 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,320 her character. Something really especially 653 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:26,200 well, especially when she like is literally actually thinking 654 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,000 about. Well, First off, yes, I realized 655 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,640 she had problems with her ex and money problems and whatever. 656 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,360 But like when she was actively thinking about the money and 657 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,960 then trying to go to Kwan Yul's character and gets attacked with 658 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,360 that. And I'm just like you creedy son 659 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,880 of a bee. Like I remember being so angry 660 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,640 in those types of scenes because it was consistent throughout the 661 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,080 show. She was constantly thinking 662 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,880 about money and constantly bringing it up and constantly 663 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,280 trying to find a way to make to blackmail these people and to 664 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,680 get more money out of them. Yes. 665 00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:07,960 Yeah. Yeah, the only reason why she 666 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,600 joins hands with Chi Song is that there's a potential that 667 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,280 she could get the insurance money right if they prove the 668 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,400 murder versus the suicide. Yeah, she gets a payout. 669 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:25,080 And I was like, Oh my God, I loved it. 670 00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:29,640 I loved it. Like this is, it's such an 671 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,360 interesting complex character, let alone all the other 672 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,760 characters too. But her as a mother, they keep 673 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,920 harkening back to this, that she is separated from her daughter 674 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,280 who's living in Canada with her like shitty ex. 675 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,760 And she keeps having to send her whole paycheck and all of this 676 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,600 alimony and like money and child support to Canada for her 677 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,560 daughter. And she misses her and wants her 678 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,720 back in Korea to live with her. And everything that she's doing 679 00:38:56,720 --> 00:38:58,160 is so that she can bring her back to Korea. 680 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,480 I totally understand that, totally understand that. 681 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,400 But she is also just kind of despicable. 682 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,000 Yeah, yeah. And I love that. 683 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:14,040 Yeah, it's a very, very fun character to watch. 684 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,720 Like, because on one hand she is like, yeah, on one hand, you do 685 00:39:17,720 --> 00:39:19,600 root for her. You know that she's like, she 686 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,760 may be despicable, but the people they're fighting against 687 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:23,880 is are. Even more. 688 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,960 Despicable. So like, you're like, OK, pick 689 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,600 the the lesser of two evils here. 690 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,920 Exactly. You know, yeah, like, she may be 691 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,960 greedy. She may be all for the money. 692 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,720 She would never go and murder some people. 693 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,720 The other people are greedy, corrupt and would murder people 694 00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:41,640 on a dime. Right, Right. 695 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,440 Yeah. I, I loved that. 696 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,720 That was the initial subversion was that most audience members 697 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:51,000 would see her as a hospital playlist girl. 698 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,040 They barely see her in a drama. They've seen her in 39, they've 699 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,760 seen her in hospital playlist. That's pretty much it. 700 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,960 I think One other mother, I think she was in as like a. 701 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,280 Maybe a sporting role? But she is fairly clean. 702 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,240 She does not have history, right? 703 00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:10,760 She doesn't have baggage like G Song may have baggage like 704 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,120 people have seen him on television. 705 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,200 They see him in the variety shows. 706 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,000 They know who his wife is. They don't know about her as 707 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,560 much. They know has a hospital 708 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:19,920 playlist. But they've seen her singing. 709 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,800 They see her in a group, you know, right? 710 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:29,200 And I love that they played off of that because she's so great 711 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,960 and she's so greedy in the show, right? 712 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,880 You're just taken aback immediately. 713 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,440 You're like, wait, wait a minute, wait a minute. 714 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,080 Yeah, and it's interesting to see her just to this. 715 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:46,520 What is the word just next to, I'll say that next to G, son, 716 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:54,480 because G overall being a cop is the more goody 2 shoes of the 717 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:55,480 show. Super righteous. 718 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:56,680 Yeah. Yeah. 719 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:01,160 But then you have the third of their trio who's like, really, 720 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,000 really, really righteous. Oh my God. 721 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,760 He's like a regular dude. Yeah, he's a regular guy who 722 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,880 like, just thinks everybody is good and like, would never do 723 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,280 anything and is constantly shocked that people would lie to 724 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:14,200 him. Right. 725 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,080 He's like, you guys did this without me, like he's just a 726 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:18,800 puppy dog. I thought he was a dog. 727 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,800 Here's my thing. I thought he was going to be 728 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,360 evil in some way, shape or form. Same. 729 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,520 Same. OK, yeah. 730 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,800 But then he became too much of the Comic Relief. 731 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,400 Or like, they're not going to make this guy evil. 732 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,960 Like it it fell back on the cliche puppy cop being the evil 733 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,800 person, one of the evil people. Yes, yes, because either when 734 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,360 you have a puppy cop, either they're dead by episode 12 or 735 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,640 they turn out to be a betrayer and end up taking a bribe or 736 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,400 doing something. That's one of the two cliches of 737 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:55,840 a crime drama. OK, so the the moment when they 738 00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:01,080 find the dead and putured body of the third beneficiary in the 739 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:05,840 insurance policy, it was like a pharmaceuticals researcher who 740 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,040 presumably concocted the new drug. 741 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,920 Yeah, the lemon Mulberry drug. Yes, the lemon Mulberry. 742 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:17,200 Well, he, he concocted the original iteration like, yeah, 743 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,320 the the first version of it, yeah. 744 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,960 Yeah, I love this part, too, because they found his body and 745 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,640 they're like, it was frozen, but then they thawed it out and they 746 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,240 put it in back in his house. And they left all of this, like, 747 00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:32,600 paraphernalia around to make it seem like he was related to the 748 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,320 audiophile group. Like, we were going to find this 749 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,760 body. And then these Molotov cocktails 750 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,120 start flying in the house. And I'm like, what is going on? 751 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,920 Destroying all this evidence, trying to kill them. 752 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:50,200 Obviously, that was another big, you know, surprise because now 753 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,760 there's some sort of dissension in the ranks of the evil people 754 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:59,120 who are out here killing drug engineers and putting them back 755 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,480 in their houses. Someone put the body there for 756 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,400 them to find and someone is trying to kill them. 757 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,960 Right. So I just. 758 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,760 The wheels are started falling off. 759 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,040 Yes, yes, yeah. I love when you figure out that 760 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,720 someone deleted the footage of him taking Lemon Mulberry in the 761 00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:21,400 police precinct. Oh my God, that gave me OK, so 762 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:27,320 the the the parts that gave me anxiety for a lot is when he was 763 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:28,800 high. Well, not high. 764 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,000 He was going through a withdrawal looking for a drug in 765 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,560 the police station. Yes, like that was the most 766 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,560 anxiety inducing parts because it happened multiple times. 767 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,280 It wasn't just like once. It was like multiple times 768 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,760 because obviously he's a cop. So he's not only avoiding his 769 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,320 own unit. There's also there's other 770 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,160 really annoying unit in the police station that is 771 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,440 suspicious of him because they work for the corrupt dude. 772 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,800 Prosecutor. That unit can suck ass. 773 00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:58,680 They. Were. 774 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,720 Horrible. They had no integrity whatsoever 775 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,960 and they were active. It looked like they were 776 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,680 actively sabotaging their investigations in the drug. 777 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,960 And even if they were asking seemingly innocent questions 778 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,560 about their investigation, they were like, no, we're not going 779 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,040 to share information. This isn't your. 780 00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:19,160 It was like all of this. Yeah. 781 00:44:19,720 --> 00:44:23,040 Territorial. They're so territorial now. 782 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,560 I will say in real life that does happen in police stations. 783 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:32,200 People can be very protective of their own cases because if they 784 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,560 solve it, it will be like they'll get the credit, right? 785 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,760 You're right. So, like, it made sense on some 786 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,800 in terms of the territorialness of it. 787 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,040 But what I was mad about is like, they just kept going at G 788 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,000 Song the entire time, like being suspicious of him. 789 00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:50,480 Granted, yeah, he was going through withdrawal symptoms. 790 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,280 Of course they were suspicious of him. 791 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,280 But like the whole getting his hair at the end, I remember 792 00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,200 being so angry because I was like, that is totally illegal. 793 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,720 What you just did. Yes, yes, good for them like 794 00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:07,000 calling them out, but I was just like, really dude, it's like 795 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,120 you're already. Corrupt. 796 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,800 I liked that. They're, I like that the unit 797 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,920 chief for the narcotics unit was this older female. 798 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,760 I was like, Oh yeah, I get it. Bitch loved her. 799 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:18,720 Loved her? Sure. 800 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,920 Always on his side, even if she didn't like understand, like she 801 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,960 wasn't really involved in a lot of like decent stuff. 802 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,960 But you know, the fact that she had such a position of authority 803 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,120 and was on his side, especially in the latter episodes when it 804 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,440 comes out that he's an addict and all this stuff, I was like, 805 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,400 yes, like, she's amazing. Him going through the police 806 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,080 station, trying to get to the one place where these drugs were 807 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,320 stored because they found some, and then taking them. 808 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,200 I was just like, Oh my God, you're going to get caught. 809 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,800 Somebody's going to walk in. And then when they when the 810 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,000 footage was erased, I was like, who the hell erased the footage 811 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:55,960 for you? That was a that was a thing. 812 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,800 That was what he's going on. It's because like the the 813 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,640 episode like ends and you're like. 814 00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:05,200 Who the hell? Deleted the footage, who saw it, 815 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,400 who helped him, who gave him the drugs? 816 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,200 All these questions. Every and then you're like 817 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,400 suspicious of everybody. Like it was. 818 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,800 Just so well written because you did not know who the trust other 819 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:21,280 than G Sung and then like you. I mean because like for 820 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:25,560 instance, because Jung Migo was so corrupt in her own space, you 821 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,160 couldn't honestly trust her for a lot of it too. 822 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,920 And then like it, I mean, it was revealed that Jung SU Wan, like 823 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,600 the the third of the trio, the the insurance person, he was 824 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,240 talking to Jung me Dong, but never telling things to Gsong. 825 00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:41,640 And Gsong was talking to Jummy Doe and never telling things to 826 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,040 him. Like, yeah, even though they 827 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,880 were working together, no one was communicating because no one 828 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,480 trusted anybody. Right. 829 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,080 It was so great. But then you compare that to the 830 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,440 villain group and they were doing the same bullshit they 831 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:55,640 were. Same thing. 832 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,400 Doing things. Two of them would do something 833 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,080 and not tell the others, and then one of them would do 834 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,160 something not to the others, and three of them would do something 835 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,280 and not tell the others. It would breed all of this 836 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:12,480 animosity between them, distrust in the group and the other group 837 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,800 imploded before our, you know, quote, UN quote, good trio. 838 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,160 Yeah, definitely. But. 839 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,080 Yeah, but miscommunication was way worse on the villain side 840 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,960 than it was on the side of truth. 841 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:31,160 Justice in the American way. But the I loved when the that 842 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,880 moment when he goes to see the CCTV footage and it's already 843 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,040 been scrubbed. Such a great moment. 844 00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:44,120 I also loved when you found out that June So's widow and the 845 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:49,440 prosecutor were in on it together and they were having an 846 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:50,920 affair. Oh my God. 847 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,880 Yeah. The affair reveal was so great 848 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,120 because the prosecutor bust into her home. 849 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:02,240 She opens the door like, hello, welcome to my home, like, 850 00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:05,000 nothing. And he comes busting and 851 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,120 immediately starts strangling her. 852 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,600 And you're like, Oh my God, what's going on? 853 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,280 Why is he strangling her? When he stops strangling her, 854 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:19,000 that's when it's revealed that they were having an affair. 855 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,880 And they they, you know, they have all this history together 856 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,400 and you're like, Oh my God, this bitch, this bitch, because you 857 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,320 thought that she was this loyal wife, right? 858 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:36,200 She didn't want her husband to have a big why on his chest from 859 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,960 the autopsy that they were gunning for and stuff because 860 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,800 she didn't want her husband to meet up with her daughter in the 861 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,480 afterlife and like him have this. 862 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,920 Scar. Scar, all this thing and I was 863 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,640 like, this page was cheating on him the whole time. 864 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,800 Oh my God right? I also love the scene where G 865 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,920 Song was in her apartment and like basically questioning her 866 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,640 but not officially questioning her. 867 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,760 Yes, he was going through all of their home videos and footage 868 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,840 trying to get some sort of. Evidence. 869 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:14,080 And then he was leaving. He was leaving and the door and 870 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:18,880 the door starts beeping. And I, I remember watching this 871 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,080 like, OK, who the hell is on the other side of that door? 872 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,560 It's prosecutors. And then all of a sudden it 873 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,880 opens up the prosecutor and everybody just like phrases. 874 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,680 And that's the end. That's the end of the episode. 875 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,280 Yeah, like a lot of the cliffhangers were relationship, 876 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,560 yeah, had to do like relational issues, right. 877 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,040 And that that's another one. Is that the cliffhanger? 878 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:46,040 Was he potentially could find out that they were having an 879 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,920 affair because the prosecutor just knew the House code? 880 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,600 Knew the house. Code and was walking into the 881 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:56,560 widow's apartment and like what the fuck so yeah yeah I'm like 882 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,600 breathing hard and everything over here the. 883 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,600 The taxi driver? Yeah, the taxi driver. 884 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:04,920 He was I. Thought shit. 885 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,040 Crazy. Bat shit crip. 886 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,840 Bat shit crazy. I thought he played bat shit 887 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,800 crazy in Psychopath. So great. 888 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,200 Like he was doing something with his jaw, like he would kind of 889 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,000 like hang his jaw a certain way. And I don't even know how to 890 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,600 describe it, but I was like, that's genius. 891 00:50:21,720 --> 00:50:25,200 He looks crazy. And then he had crazy eyes too. 892 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,880 Yeah, of it. Yeah, He had really nice crazy. 893 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,200 Eyes, but he could turn. Crazy eyes. 894 00:50:29,240 --> 00:50:31,800 Really good. Yeah, Definitely, definitely. 895 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,560 Because there were some scenes where I was like, OK, he looks 896 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,120 kind of sane here. Right. 897 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,360 The other two were angry, but other than yeah, yeah, so. 898 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:40,760 Great. Like when he was washing his 899 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,440 hands of the blood in some public bathroom or whatever and 900 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,720 the kid sees the blood, some child in the bathroom sees the 901 00:50:47,720 --> 00:50:50,440 blood and he makes eye contact with the kid. 902 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,360 I was like, oh, there goes the kid. 903 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,520 The kids going to tell. There goes the elementary school 904 00:50:55,640 --> 00:51:00,760 kid, because he looked at he looked crazy. 905 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,040 He did. He did. 906 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:06,600 Oh, so great. They revealed that the puppy dog 907 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,920 police cop was in on it as well. Not in on it. 908 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,880 When I say in on it, it's like in on something else. 909 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:19,640 Like he knew CEO Yun, who was one of the distributors of Lemon 910 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:23,720 Mulberry and was like a drug cartel leader in town. 911 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,840 This was the stupidest part of the show though, because this 912 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:32,920 guy really thought, he really thought that if he made a deal 913 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:40,160 with this CEO Yun, a drug cartel leader, to keep the streets 914 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,160 clean. OK, you take out some rival drug 915 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:48,600 cartel, A rival drug family, and I, CEO Yun says. 916 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,360 I will keep the streets clean. Right. 917 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,640 Yeah, like you're. Why do you? 918 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,640 Believe anything that's coming out of her mouth. 919 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,400 The. Cop that E Chung SU, Detective E 920 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,280 Chung SU. Stupid. 921 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:05,080 He's stupid and then he would come to her and like be mad at 922 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,280 her. Right. 923 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:07,920 I was like, do you know who you're dealing with? 924 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,520 Dude, you're going to end up in the Han River. 925 00:52:11,240 --> 00:52:13,680 Keep going right? It's great. 926 00:52:15,720 --> 00:52:19,440 It was just so like, why would he believe anything that she 927 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,920 says? Right, exactly it. 928 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,560 Just like. He was that cop was just in over 929 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,000 his head. Well, it was the. 930 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,400 Same thing with like so like. Another anxiety inducing part 931 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,200 was when he was deleting the CCTV in her backroom. 932 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,280 Of him, yes, yes, yes, yes. And I was. 933 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,560 Just like you're doing this in front of everybody in the front 934 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:38,160 room. Yeah. 935 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,760 Yeah. Like, obviously he had to do it 936 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,120 right then and there, but it was just like, oh, my God. 937 00:52:43,720 --> 00:52:47,000 But that was it was the same thing with when he drove the van 938 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,520 into the lake. I was just like. 939 00:52:49,720 --> 00:52:54,680 The band in the lake was like such a oh, you talk about it, 940 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,080 you talk about. It, it was just like, I mean, it 941 00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,080 was true for what they they said this beautifully in the show. 942 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,120 It was just the things did not match up. 943 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:07,040 The guy, the handcuffs being on handcuffed because when you have 944 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,480 a suspect in the back, you usually handcuff them to 945 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,400 something. So the fact that those were 946 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:15,480 undone, the fact that the window was open when it drove in, how 947 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,640 he easily was on shore already like, and things just did not 948 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,400 match up. And I'm just like, you got you. 949 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,520 Clearly this was impulsive. It was an impulsive decision. 950 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:28,200 He didn't plan to do it because obviously the guy that they had 951 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,720 just arrested threatened him to reveal everything. 952 00:53:31,720 --> 00:53:34,800 So he impulsively had to choose to kill the guy. 953 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,000 But it was just you didn't think this through. 954 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,760 You did not think any of this through, which matches the 955 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,840 impulsiveness of the decision. But yeah, it's just you. 956 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,360 Eventually we're going to get found. 957 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,280 It was a matter of time. It was just Elaine the 958 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,160 inevitable. And he really did not like he 959 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:55,520 said. He just didn't think it through. 960 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,360 He like lowered the window and like jerked the yeah. 961 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:04,400 Honestly I thought the delivery bike kid was going to get in 962 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,080 more trouble. I thought he was Juico. 963 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:13,360 I thought he was Juico's fair kid for like the longest time. 964 00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:16,720 Like I bet it was obviously revealed it wasn't. 965 00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:19,400 But I was like, dude, this dude had an affair and his wife had 966 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,040 an affair. Like everybody was cheating but 967 00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:24,760 that kid. Was old like he was like a. 968 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,040 But they've been married teen like high school, they've been 969 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,320 married for a really long time. Like they got together like 970 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,120 right after. No, yeah. 971 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:35,840 I. Think so and the why I. 972 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,680 Think the yeah I think they were married for a while. 973 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,520 No. I could be wrong, I don't know. 974 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,440 Maybe they never said how long they were married. 975 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,880 I don't know. But I thought that he was like a 976 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,400 love child somewhere. I don't know. 977 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,160 I I that never crossed my mind but wow. 978 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,760 No they couldn't have done that because Chunzo had to stay this 979 00:54:55,760 --> 00:55:01,200 like perfect Angel of a of a dead person otherwise nobody 980 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,840 would have done anything to prove who murdered him. 981 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:08,520 He would have been also like an ambiguous villain in this whole 982 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:13,440 thing, which we don't. I guess he gets a free pass for 983 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,240 everything that he does. Hey, there's. 984 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,320 Nobody that well, there's nobody that prosecute. 985 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:23,160 Of course he does well like. Yeah, but I thought that 986 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,480 delivery by kid was going to get in more trouble because he's the 987 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,640 one that swapped the drugs. Right. 988 00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:30,520 Yeah. He does get run over in the 989 00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,120 rain. You thought he was going to get 990 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,480 murdered at some point? But I thought he was going to 991 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,080 get prosecuted. I thought he was going to get 992 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:40,400 murked something because he swapped the drugs on the drug 993 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:45,480 run that June so was supposed to do and he ended up killing the 994 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,440 old lady with a brain tumor. Right. 995 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,800 Right, because she got the wrong drugs. 996 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,520 Yeah. Poor lady, you know. 997 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:57,080 What I'm saying, I know it's crazy how this title connection 998 00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,560 has more than one meeting in this show. 999 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,640 Yes. Because it's like the little 1000 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,440 intricate connections of the threads that revealed throughout 1001 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,720 this show, for one. Then it was like the 1002 00:56:07,720 --> 00:56:11,560 relationships between everybody. Because one of the more 1003 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,680 surprising parts for me was when, when you first enter this 1004 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:20,320 show, you're like, OK, June So's an old high school friend who 1005 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:21,800 ends up dead. Like, that's it. 1006 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,960 I was like, OK, he's going to be he's going to be finding out who 1007 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,160 murdered this dude. And then he's always going to 1008 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,360 figure out who drugged him. Like, that was the story. 1009 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,080 And then as you go along, you realize that this had been 1010 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:38,200 stemming from high school, like these connections and these 1011 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,120 feelings and these relationships. 1012 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:44,680 And then you find out like, how deep this dude was, Jinso, the 1013 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:50,040 dead guy, how deep he was in Yeah, how deep he was in this 1014 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,960 and how everything was connected not only with the high school 1015 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:58,960 relationships, but also the evil squad over here who all knew 1016 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,440 each other in high school, were friends, were not technically 1017 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,920 friends with G Sung in high school, but like, knew each 1018 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,320 other in high school. And like how everything stemmed 1019 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,680 back to the high school, the incident that happened in the 1020 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,840 high school. And then just like it, all the 1021 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,560 threads just connected. I think I had questions about 1022 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,000 what happened in the flashbacks and what happened in high school 1023 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,760 because who the hell was the kid that they killed? 1024 00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:24,080 I thought you would. So it basically it was just a 1025 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,400 kid they bullied as far as I remember. 1026 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:31,360 But they made it seem like that kid bullied 4 eyes. 1027 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,080 Maybe. Maybe I'm just not remembering 1028 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,480 that part. Because there was a scene where 1029 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,520 they were all together. All the bullies were together. 1030 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,120 I don't even know what's called him the Doom Squad. 1031 00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,040 All the Doom Squad were together in a classroom. 1032 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,840 And they were like, hey, you got bullied again. 1033 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:51,640 And Four Eyes, the one who created Mulgarry in the future, 1034 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,640 He's sitting there with like a busted lip. 1035 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,640 Right. Yes, yes. 1036 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,640 So I'm like OK, did he get bullied by another kid? 1037 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,200 No, yeah, I think I, I think you're right. 1038 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,520 I think they bullied. I think it was bullied by that 1039 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,600 guy, or at least hit by that guy, right? 1040 00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,680 Something about like, oh, you got your lunch money taken 1041 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:10,600 again. I don't even know if it was 1042 00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,240 lunch money, but it was something. 1043 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:17,440 And then they went to go. Bullying to rough the guy up? 1044 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,520 Yeah, they went to rough the guy up. 1045 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,280 Yeah. And things went awry. 1046 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,120 Things did not go how they planned. 1047 00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:28,800 So awry which number one? Number one, when they showed the 1048 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:33,640 debt, the guy that the kid that ends up dying and his friend in 1049 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,200 this, this traditional house has no running water, no 1050 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:38,480 electricity. Right. 1051 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:43,000 Even though it's wired for electricity because there is an 1052 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,120 on and off switch in the bathroom or a light. 1053 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,720 So that was strange. They spilled an obnoxious amount 1054 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,320 of gas on the ground. They did. 1055 00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:53,880 They did. And they didn't seem fazed by 1056 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:55,360 it. I would have been freaking out. 1057 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,560 Yeah, because that's not. That's not a few drops of gas. 1058 00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:01,640 No, it's not. No, it was a puddle. 1059 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,000 It was, it was a big, it was a whole. 1060 00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:07,880 Last puddle of gas and then they just they just sit in it with a 1061 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:14,320 lighter and light up the grill. I was like no no no. 1062 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:18,840 Is this just because I'm older now or is this the stupidity of 1063 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:22,080 youth? Or are they just more stupid 1064 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,440 than usual? I I couldn't wrap my hand around 1065 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,040 why they would still can even if they spilled that much gas. 1066 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:34,120 You have move move away from the gas to light up the grill just. 1067 00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:41,120 Yeah, the reveal of the fact that Jung SU Kim Kyung Nam's 1068 00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:42,200 character. Yeah. 1069 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,320 Came back, Oh yes and killed the guy. 1070 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,640 He came back for his name tag that fell off at some point and 1071 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,840 then he beat him to death. Yeah, was like, Oh my God, 1072 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,440 'cause like, obviously he already killed the guy. 1073 00:59:56,200 --> 01:00:00,960 Like, I see, I I was like, I was surprised because technically he 1074 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,960 already had killed the guy because he was going to die 1075 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,520 anyway from the injuries that he already had. 1076 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,240 Yeah, but. They cracked his skull open. 1077 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:17,040 Yeah, to add on that layer of viciousness and the layer of no 1078 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:21,120 one can touch me, no empathy, the inhumanity, like I'm the 1079 01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:27,000 rich kid no one can touch even though I'm crazy high on drugs. 1080 01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,800 I need a best friend hired by my father to like, keep me under 1081 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:36,000 wraps and keep me into control. Comes back and just with nobody 1082 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,200 else. So he just goes crazy and 1083 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:43,200 actually kills this guy. I was so surprised by that 1084 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,040 because I thought like, OK, this dude's already dead, like he 1085 01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,040 killed them. But to add on that layer of 1086 01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:52,200 viciousness and that layer to that character was the 1087 01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:56,960 surprising part for me, not the fact that he came back. 1088 01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,680 But no, no, it was the fact that he took a freaking. 1089 01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:00,920 He doubled down. He doubled. 1090 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:02,960 Basically I was not expecting the double down. 1091 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:07,560 Oh, I see, I see, I see. OK, I guess I had a worse 1092 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:11,720 opinion of the character than you did, mostly because I don't 1093 01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:12,400 know. I don't know. 1094 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,680 I just thought he was shit. He was shit. 1095 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:19,480 Of course he'd like finish it. And it wasn't because he it 1096 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,720 wasn't out of necessarily malice. 1097 01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:23,400 No it wasn't. No it. 1098 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,200 Was out of fear, right? It was out of fear. 1099 01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,160 And he had proven himself, even up to this point in the show, 1100 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,200 that he was a coward. Yeah, definitely, definitely. 1101 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,320 So it totally made sense to me that when he kind of came back 1102 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:39,320 to life and was begging for his life and was touching him and 1103 01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,840 stuff, it scared him enough that he started to just beat him to 1104 01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:43,760 death. So. 1105 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,120 Yeah, because he was afraid of his father. 1106 01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:47,960 He's. He's afraid of consequences. 1107 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,640 Yeah. Yeah, not necessarily, you know, 1108 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,280 justice system consequences, his. 1109 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,160 Father, he was afraid of his father. 1110 01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:57,200 Consequences. Yeah. 1111 01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:58,720 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 1112 01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,240 So it totally made sense to me. I was as surprised in the 1113 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:04,280 slightest. I I don't think I even blinked 1114 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:09,640 harder during that far. I was like, Yep, here we go, the 1115 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,720 table doing more damage. Right, right. 1116 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,520 I thought the kid that was hiding in the bathroom though 1117 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:20,040 was June. So for like an episode? 1118 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,560 Yeah, that happened to me too. I thought it was June so far. 1119 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:25,520 Yeah, that was. Like, not clear who that kid 1120 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,480 was. Yeah, but speaking a word on the 1121 01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,920 kids though, in the flashbacks they were excellent at 1122 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:36,720 portraying their characters and matching the adults 1123 01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,440 performances. Yes, and I think they I. 1124 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,040 Don't know if you like. Had thoughts on that or? 1125 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,720 Picked up on that, but. Oh yeah, I thought they did very 1126 01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:45,880 well. I also thought the likeness of 1127 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,480 them, too, They found kids that, like, obviously didn't 100% 1128 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,920 match, but like, matched enough, Yeah, that you knew exactly who 1129 01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:54,800 each one of them were. Yeah. 1130 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:59,000 I thought that was impressive. So going back to I think it's 1131 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:04,520 episode 7. Yeah, Episode 7 our home girl 1132 01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:08,840 get our home girl journalist hospital playlist girl, she gets 1133 01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:13,480 abducted, like straight up abducted by the linebacker. 1134 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,400 Like I have no other way to describe. 1135 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,720 It's just like the. Muscle, the bodyguard. 1136 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,560 The bodyguard in the in the Dune squad. 1137 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,800 And they try. He tries to pay her off. 1138 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:28,320 He tries to blackmail her with all of this evidence that she's 1139 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:34,000 been bribed as a journalist for so long, and she ends up 1140 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,040 returning the payoff money. Yep. 1141 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,400 And she says I'm known in this field for easily accepting 1142 01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,520 what's offered to me. Everyone will be tired of it. 1143 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,600 Hey, it would be worth a news article if a giraffe ate some 1144 01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,240 meat. Who cares if a wolf has some 1145 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,640 meat? And I was like yes girl. 1146 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,880 Like she has some balls on her. Oh yeah. 1147 01:03:55,120 --> 01:04:00,400 She has some balls on her. This was a very slow, slow 1148 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:06,160 journey back to being ethical and moral and somewhat 1149 01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:10,440 journalistic integrity or just integrity period for this 1150 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:16,200 character and her valuing friendships and the chase, like 1151 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:22,760 the satisfaction of the chase of a story more than getting paid 1152 01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,760 off. And the money aspect and her 1153 01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:31,480 feeling the weight of what Chun so was unable to say to her when 1154 01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:35,960 she last saw him before he died. So I really liked that about the 1155 01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,040 show. And that was very slow because 1156 01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,760 she, again, very morally Gray throughout the show. 1157 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:46,880 But, you know, talking about on the opposite side, the cop, our 1158 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:51,080 cop character from G Song, his journey is also interesting 1159 01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:54,280 because besides the fact that he's dealing with all the 1160 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,920 addiction at the beginning of the show, he's like this 1161 01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,440 independent cop who didn't believe in friendship anymore 1162 01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:05,880 and was not relying on others and didn't trust people and was 1163 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:10,080 doing all of this on his own, you know, living on his own and, 1164 01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,200 you know, trying to make it and rise up through the ranks all on 1165 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,080 his own. And by the end of the show, you 1166 01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,720 realize that he he needed all of these people. 1167 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:23,120 He needed a tribe, right? It's about him learning to trust 1168 01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:27,000 people again and, you know, have friends again, make friends. 1169 01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:34,240 So I liked that journey as well. I thought the password for the 1170 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:38,680 crypto account was going to be her birthday. 1171 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,840 I thought it was going to be Yuno's birthday. 1172 01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:42,680 Yeah, I love that piece of writing. 1173 01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,160 Cuz you, you really do. Think it's going to be DID? 1174 01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,200 You really do think it was going to be the birthday? 1175 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,800 That it was going to be the birthday, and it was not. 1176 01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,960 It was not her birthday. I love that twist. 1177 01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,600 I loved it. And then after that, I thought 1178 01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:02,280 it was going to be the SOS code 1882. 1179 01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,880 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't, I don't think they 1180 01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:09,880 landed that necessarily, that the last four digits were the 1181 01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:15,000 friendship day. Yeah, that was one of the small 1182 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:16,960 qualms I had. I was like, they could have 1183 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:20,160 picked a definitely a better story with that part, yeah. 1184 01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,560 I think it should have been the SSI. 1185 01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:24,720 Think so too. I like that idea more. 1186 01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:29,440 I think it was a good choice to not have it be her birthday. 1187 01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,040 Oh yeah. Because it just, it just sounds, 1188 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:34,000 it shows more of like the paranoia part of it all. 1189 01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:38,320 And then it brought his widow into the paranoia now. 1190 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,760 But yeah, I that was one of the small issues I had at the end 1191 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:45,280 was like, I I think they could have wrote that part of the 1192 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:49,400 story better or picked a different significant date than 1193 01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,880 that. This insurance guy had 1194 01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:55,720 superhuman strength though. I love I cheered when that 1195 01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:57,000 happened. When? 1196 01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:02,680 He picked up like Superman picked up the prosecutor who was 1197 01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:06,520 choking out, you know, and threw him across the room. 1198 01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:07,560 Yeah. I. 1199 01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,680 I have a speechless. I was like, where is where is 1200 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:14,840 this coming from? Does he compete like this is? 1201 01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:17,280 Incredible. Is he high on? 1202 01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:21,360 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I I had so many more 1203 01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,640 questions than answers. I was like, I don't know where. 1204 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:27,920 He just has this unbelievable Herculean strength. 1205 01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:30,040 Right. Right. 1206 01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,440 It's never addressed. Then we go back. 1207 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,080 And then I thought, oh, maybe I saw it wrong. 1208 01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:37,600 No, then they go back and they had the prosecutor look at the 1209 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,360 CCTV footage, right? And you see it again. 1210 01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,320 You see the scene again. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, 1211 01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,840 that's that was nuts. That was actually nuts. 1212 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,680 Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. 1213 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:54,120 The one thing we're dancing around is who is the doctor? 1214 01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:56,120 Yeah. Who was the doctor? 1215 01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:59,720 Who was the doctor? And I said before our spoiler 1216 01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:04,640 break that I yelled out I knew it, and my sister overheard me. 1217 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:09,440 This is what I knew from the funeral of Chun. 1218 01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:14,080 So was that Four Eyes who have been calling? 1219 01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,800 Four Eyes was the doctor. Yeah. 1220 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:18,800 I was like, that guy's shady as shit. 1221 01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:23,000 I clocked him early too. What I didn't clock was how 1222 01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,399 crazy he was. No, no, no, that was crazy. 1223 01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:28,840 Like, like I did. I was like, oh, no, he 1224 01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:30,600 definitely is like some bad person. 1225 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,319 I might not have like, clocked he wasn't a doctor until 1226 01:08:33,319 --> 01:08:35,040 somebody started mentioning the doctor. 1227 01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,319 But I was like, Oh no, he's in on it somehow. 1228 01:08:37,319 --> 01:08:40,520 Like he's too innocent over here and he's too much, like, on 1229 01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:45,760 screen for not to be important. Yeah, but I didn't clock how 1230 01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,960 crazy he was going to be. It was. 1231 01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,640 Did it work for you how crazy he was? 1232 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:56,840 Yeah, I think it worked because it was just the the audacity of 1233 01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:01,399 it all was just like it was fun. I wouldn't say it was 100% 1234 01:09:01,399 --> 01:09:07,319 worked for me, but it was fun. And the same with Kwan Yules 1235 01:09:07,319 --> 01:09:12,240 character, the descent that he had by the end, it didn't 100% 1236 01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:16,399 make sense but it was fun, at least for him. 1237 01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,399 At least for Kuan Yew's character, it made a little more 1238 01:09:19,399 --> 01:09:24,279 sense in his reasoning because he was just so arrogant by the 1239 01:09:24,279 --> 01:09:25,840 end. Oh yeah, the. 1240 01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:29,720 Doctor, his reasoning, especially for drugging Jason 1241 01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,479 just was not. It was not 100. 1242 01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,880 Like it wasn't there like I think it helped to prove it was. 1243 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:39,240 It was shaky, but it also helped to prove how insane he was. 1244 01:09:39,319 --> 01:09:41,040 Yeah, he was. He didn't need a. 1245 01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:44,840 He didn't need a sane reason because that wasn't his 1246 01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,640 character. Yeah, like we need it. 1247 01:09:48,279 --> 01:09:54,760 You'd think that the rest of the Doom Squad are crazy psycho. 1248 01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:56,440 You know, they're willing to kill people. 1249 01:09:56,440 --> 01:10:01,480 They're willing to, you know, freeze people right in there. 1250 01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:04,200 What is it called? Cold storage cold. 1251 01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:08,400 Storage, thank you in the cold storage and just do despicable 1252 01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,160 things. Half of them creating this lemon 1253 01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:15,640 Mulberry demand in the drug market and creating this 1254 01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:19,440 business basically and the other half not realizing that that's 1255 01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:22,200 what they were doing. Let alone like distributing 1256 01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:24,120 outside of their organization too. 1257 01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,160 It wasn't just them within their organization. 1258 01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,680 They were taking bribes and distributing outside of it 1259 01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,960 because they were all arrogant. So they they're doing all of 1260 01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:36,240 this and then you have and you're like, that's crazy. 1261 01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:39,800 That's they're wild. Then you have sang Sanghi, I 1262 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:44,600 think is his name sang Sanghi 4 eyes and I had clocked that's 1263 01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,680 the doctor. But you're like, why? 1264 01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:51,480 Why do this? The next question is why get our 1265 01:10:51,480 --> 01:10:55,760 male lead who never heard a family addicted to drugs 1266 01:10:55,920 --> 01:11:00,440 addicted to London Mulberry. You see in this crazy flashback 1267 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,760 that, you know, this incident happened. 1268 01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:07,600 They killed this other kid in this fiery inferno. 1269 01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:11,440 It burned down his whole house, and they're covering it up. 1270 01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:16,200 And they just got our male lead expelled and, like, transferred 1271 01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,200 to another school. So you think that's going to be 1272 01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,920 the end of it? Then you see Sangy for our Four 1273 01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,240 Eyes character go, is that enough? 1274 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:25,400 Yeah. And you're like, what the fuck? 1275 01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,600 Wait, wait. There he goes. 1276 01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:33,480 That's not enough. We need to break up June so and 1277 01:11:33,480 --> 01:11:38,960 you know the the Mr. Body who eventually becomes Mr. Body and 1278 01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:42,680 our journalist hospital playlist girl because they were dating in 1279 01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,800 high school. Break them up and this group 1280 01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,880 should have never created this club and music club audiophile 1281 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:50,600 and all the stuff so we could fuck up the club. 1282 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:56,800 This guy had June so literally vandalize his own beloved school 1283 01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:00,840 club with a baseball bat and then violently cut ties with, 1284 01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:05,160 you know, and he relished. It Yeah. 1285 01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:09,080 And that's when you're like, OK, I think he beat all of them. 1286 01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,680 He's psycho, yeah. This dude is insane. 1287 01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,520 Yeah, yeah. And then you hear him spouting 1288 01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:18,840 to Ji Sung and Jummy Doe the reasoning the episode. 12 1289 01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:22,480 exposition dump. I don't like exposition dumps, 1290 01:12:23,480 --> 01:12:25,880 but this is when he starts saying I just didn't like you. 1291 01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:31,400 Yeah, also I didn't like you, but I also was was friends with 1292 01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:35,200 June, so for 20 years. So I was like his biggest 1293 01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:39,400 support and how dare he like includes you in the will. 1294 01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:43,040 How dare that. How dare that you only talk to 1295 01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:45,520 him a handful of times and he thinks you're. 1296 01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,360 It was a jealousy thing in a way. 1297 01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,960 Right, but it was a jealousy thing. 1298 01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:56,080 But I don't know. Did Sangi for Eyes know about 1299 01:12:56,080 --> 01:13:01,440 the will before June so died? No, I don't think so because it 1300 01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:04,200 happened after. OK, no. 1301 01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:05,800 I don't. No, I do not think he did. 1302 01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,680 That's what I thought too, because by the time the funeral 1303 01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:12,400 happens, the male lead is already addicted to lemon 1304 01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,080 Mulberry. Yeah, so he didn't drug him 1305 01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,160 because of the will. He drugged him, as you said, 1306 01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,040 because he just didn't like him. He just didn't like him. 1307 01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,400 But then he, he, I think he drug. 1308 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,760 Jealous of their. Collection, yeah. 1309 01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:30,160 Or just the connection that Jung so thought they had. 1310 01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,120 I think, I think it was a combination of a lot of things. 1311 01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:37,040 He didn't like him in general. He didn't like that even though 1312 01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:40,680 he was 20 years friendship with Jung so and like there for him, 1313 01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:45,400 Jung so could not let go of the guilt of what happened to Ji 1314 01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:49,080 Sung's character and was trying to make amends for those 20 1315 01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:53,360 years and G Sung and he was mad at G Sung because G Sung didn't 1316 01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:57,800 let him have that resolution. Yes, Never gave him forgiveness. 1317 01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:01,480 So I think he drugged him first, just didn't like him because he 1318 01:14:01,480 --> 01:14:04,760 wanted to kind of get rid of him so Jung so would be able to move 1319 01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,760 on. But then when the will was read 1320 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:12,000 and then he found that out, then he doubled down and was like, 1321 01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:16,960 oh, I really don't like you and I'm so jealous of you and I'm 1322 01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,480 just going to make your life miserable and haunt you with 1323 01:14:19,480 --> 01:14:23,520 this stuff. But he also wanted to use him as 1324 01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:27,840 revenge because he'd been like, bullied by the Doom Squad and 1325 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,360 John. So for that matter, yeah, he was 1326 01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:33,120 like using him at the same time to get revenge on the people. 1327 01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,920 That was a it was all about June so for him, right? 1328 01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:40,440 In a way, both in revenge, but also in jealousy and like 1329 01:14:40,440 --> 01:14:43,120 wanting to get rid of them so he could have June so to himself. 1330 01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,120 Yeah, he, yeah. Which was nuts it. 1331 01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:50,000 Was about half crazy. I told me you guys can't see 1332 01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:51,960 this but I'm just shaking my head with crazy eyes. 1333 01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:58,280 He also, it made it sound like he and you mentioned this, that 1334 01:14:58,440 --> 01:15:02,240 he set him loose right near the drug hand off in the subway 1335 01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:07,440 station so that he could bust those guys that were part of the 1336 01:15:07,440 --> 01:15:09,840 Lemon Millbury distribution system. 1337 01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:14,240 And it would lead back to him, lead back to Four Eyes, and 1338 01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:18,400 eventually lead back to the prosecutor and get at all of the 1339 01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:22,600 Doom Squad, right? Found out and arrested for this 1340 01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,040 lemon Mulberry. Trafficking thing, yeah. 1341 01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,080 But then it didn't happen that way. 1342 01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,320 He kept saying like, you're a bad cop, basically, you keep, 1343 01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:32,800 you keep letting these guys go right? 1344 01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:36,760 I keep handing things to you and like you, you can't get your 1345 01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:42,080 shit together right. And honestly, it's stupid only 1346 01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:44,960 because he got him addicted to lemon Mulberry, and lemon 1347 01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:50,000 Mulberry is impairing him the entirety of the show, right? 1348 01:15:50,440 --> 01:15:54,440 Yeah. So it's just, it's so he's 1349 01:15:54,440 --> 01:15:59,440 getting upset that he can't do his job at the efficiency that 1350 01:15:59,440 --> 01:16:02,360 he wants him to. But it's entirely his. 1351 01:16:02,480 --> 01:16:04,440 Fault, but it's entirely his. Fault. 1352 01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:06,560 Exactly. Exactly. 1353 01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,880 Yeah, stupid. It's just psycho. 1354 01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:11,720 It was psycho, baby. It was psycho. 1355 01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:16,120 It was psycho, yeah. Yeah, anyway, I had questions 1356 01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:21,400 about the last episode where our prosecutor, because I genuinely 1357 01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:23,400 thought he was admitting to killing June. 1358 01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,720 So yeah. Mm hmm, that was the part I did 1359 01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:28,720 not like. OK, talk to me about it. 1360 01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:33,280 So I wanted it to hit be him. I wanted it to be him and done 1361 01:16:33,480 --> 01:16:37,800 me too. And then to have the CEO father 1362 01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,240 come in at the very last second and be like, Oh no, it was 1363 01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:44,520 actually my plan. I was like, why like it was? 1364 01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:49,480 That was not needed at all. Kwan Yul did a amazing 1365 01:16:49,480 --> 01:16:54,440 performance, went off the deep end, was so arrogant, was so 1366 01:16:54,440 --> 01:16:59,160 good in that scene. And then four Eyes just shut him 1367 01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:03,800 up, him up out of nowhere. I'm just like, Oh my God, I was 1368 01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:08,000 not like I was because I knew he had the gun, but I wasn't at the 1369 01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,440 same time. I yes, yeah. 1370 01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,760 Just because, like, if he didn't do it, somebody in that room was 1371 01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,280 going to either punch him or kill him because they were like 1372 01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:19,920 boiling over at that point because he was just talking way 1373 01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,240 too long. He was doing them the the cliche 1374 01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:23,680 manifesto. Oh, yeah. 1375 01:17:24,440 --> 01:17:25,760 Of a correct thing. Yeah. 1376 01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,480 Because he was just so arrogant because he thought he had beat 1377 01:17:28,480 --> 01:17:30,720 everybody. Yeah, So I would would have been 1378 01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,120 very, very pleased with that ending. 1379 01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,560 I would have been 100% OK with that ending. 1380 01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:41,720 And then you had to bring in like, yes, the shoe thing was 1381 01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,280 still bugging people. I understand that. 1382 01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:49,880 But it was just like, OK, it was explained in that scene. 1383 01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:54,080 It didn't really need to be investigated more. 1384 01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:57,240 And then they just went down the rabbit hole of the cliche 1385 01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:04,840 corruption CEO hired somebody to do the job again, which I just 1386 01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,360 did not. I did not like That was the one 1387 01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,320 thing I did not like at the end. I wish they had left that out 1388 01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:12,240 because it wasn't needed. It was not needed. 1389 01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:16,120 It didn't add anything. And because it also didn't 1390 01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,800 really make sense for the father like it did and it didn't 1391 01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:24,200 because like the on one hand, it did because he was very, very he 1392 01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,320 was set on image. He needed a certain image. 1393 01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,960 His company was failing. He he needed that. 1394 01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,200 That wasn't. Just come to work out, it was 1395 01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:34,680 the entire conglomerate, the group. 1396 01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,840 Yeah, and he needed that project to work out. 1397 01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,280 It obviously wasn't going to work out. 1398 01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:46,320 So he obviously did the cliche thing and hired the person who 1399 01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:50,760 was going to reveal everything. The show did a great in part of 1400 01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:54,080 that reasoning, but then they also threw in like, I needed to 1401 01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:58,840 protect my son, which was not believable at all, because he 1402 01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,560 hated his guts. He hated his entire life. 1403 01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,480 His entire life he hated his guts. 1404 01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:05,640 Yeah. He was embarrassed of him. 1405 01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,960 Yeah, yeah. And he clearly wanted the 1406 01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:12,080 prosecutor. To some extent, he wished he was 1407 01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:13,160 his son. Yeah. 1408 01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:15,160 I loved every. Time. 1409 01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:16,640 It never was going to happen. Oh. 1410 01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:22,000 Not the CEO every time that old man chairman humbled the 1411 01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,160 prosecutor. Yeah, yeah. 1412 01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:27,560 That was always an interesting. That was a fun thing to watch. 1413 01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:29,040 Yeah. Yeah. 1414 01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,320 So that was the. That was literally the only part 1415 01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:34,200 I did not like in this room because it just did not. 1416 01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:35,320 It wasn't needed. It was. 1417 01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:38,280 It was not necessary. I thought I was genuinely 1418 01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:43,200 surprised when they do it like a two months later time jump after 1419 01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:48,040 he gets the prosecutor gets shot in the head by four eyes and 1420 01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:51,120 they still don't have the insurance payout and they're 1421 01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:52,280 like, we still need to figure out who it is. 1422 01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,720 I was like, what do you what right. 1423 01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:58,480 I was like, it was not the prosecutor because he had, he 1424 01:19:58,480 --> 01:20:01,840 was the shadiest 1. He was the one blocking every 1425 01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:05,880 attempt at solving the murder. He didn't want the autopsy. 1426 01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,720 He stopped the elevator before they got to the 9th floor. 1427 01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:13,800 All these things really did add up that he was the murderer, or 1428 01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:17,440 at least, you know, hired somebody to push him off the 9th 1429 01:20:17,440 --> 01:20:18,840 floor. Right. 1430 01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:22,200 Yeah. I don't I completely agree with 1431 01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:27,440 you that it the chairman being the big bad of a murderer didn't 1432 01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:33,200 sit right right and him having this thin reason of. 1433 01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:39,080 The shoes, right, which you said even pointed out was like, yeah, 1434 01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:42,880 but 50% of people don't actually take off their shoes. 1435 01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:46,320 They even wrote that into the script was which was, which was 1436 01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,240 hilarious to me. But yeah. 1437 01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,200 They caught him in like a weird technicality and I didn't. 1438 01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:54,240 I didn't appreciate that. But anyway, that's neither here 1439 01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:57,800 nor there. And then I like the paycheck 1440 01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:00,920 ending, though where I don't know if you've seen the movie 1441 01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:04,760 Paycheck with Ben Affleck. A long time ago, I barely 1442 01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:06,080 remember it. And you know what? 1443 01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:11,080 I I also have only watched this movie once like 20 years ago 1444 01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:14,840 when it came out but the ending has always stuck to me where 1445 01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,560 they have the winning. Oh, spoilers for this movie. 1446 01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:20,640 By the way. I guess where they find the 1447 01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:23,000 winning lottery ticket, they still have it. 1448 01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:26,280 Yes, yes. And so this is their winning 1449 01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:30,120 lottery ticket moment, right? They have the final four digits 1450 01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:35,400 of this cryptocurrency account that has all of the profits, all 1451 01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,640 of the proceeds of the Lemon Mulberry business, right? 1452 01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:40,880 And they're able to get into it and you see their reaction. 1453 01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:43,720 They're super excited because not only did they get the payout 1454 01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:45,640 and they're splitting it and they're giving some to the 1455 01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:48,880 cheating wife and they're putting some away for this and 1456 01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,680 that and the other had to pay taxes and all this stuff, but 1457 01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:55,040 they also got into The Dirty money account. 1458 01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:57,880 The Dirty money, yeah. And I really like that. 1459 01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,120 I like that too, yeah. Because you don't know what they 1460 01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:01,680 actually do with it. That. 1461 01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,600 I like that part. You just that's that's the end. 1462 01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:07,800 As you know, they got in. Yeah, Yeah. 1463 01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:10,840 The first part, I, I had to rewatch that scene the first 1464 01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:14,640 time because when they were zooming out and it was just the 1465 01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,640 dialogue, yeah. I, I thought they had entered it 1466 01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:20,280 wrong. Or I also had thought that the 1467 01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,960 laptop had died and I was like, wait, what? 1468 01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:27,440 So I had to like, rewatch it. I was like, oh, OK, that's not 1469 01:22:27,440 --> 01:22:30,240 actually what happened. Yeah. 1470 01:22:30,440 --> 01:22:31,800 No, it's good. It's good. 1471 01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,880 I think that's everything that I had in my notes. 1472 01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:39,800 Is there anything else that you wanna talk about for connection? 1473 01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:43,560 Because I think we made it all the way through the show and we 1474 01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:46,400 talked about the ending. It was a happy ending. 1475 01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:50,200 He gets clean. G Song's character gets clean. 1476 01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:52,760 No more Lemon Mulberry, which I really like that name by the 1477 01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:56,680 way, for the drug. So you have here, like, thoughts 1478 01:22:56,680 --> 01:23:00,120 on the music and OST? I like the music. 1479 01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,280 I thought the music was was good. 1480 01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:05,000 Yeah. I thought it fit the show very 1481 01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,400 well. I mean, it actually, it 1482 01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:12,040 obviously added to like, the anxiety of watching him go 1483 01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,920 through withdrawal symptoms. Withdrawal symptoms. 1484 01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:19,480 I mean, I, I mean, I don't know, I just think of the cliched 1485 01:23:19,480 --> 01:23:21,560 withdrawal symptoms. So I don't know any. 1486 01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:23,520 Oh. My God, you brought up with the. 1487 01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,640 Withdrawal symptoms or everything but like I thought 1488 01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,720 they were extreme. So two things they were. 1489 01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:31,400 Oh my God, you reminded me of two things. 1490 01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:36,400 One was the freaking copico product placement throughout the 1491 01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:39,280 show. I remember, I remember cuz it 1492 01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:41,880 was very heavy at the end of the show. 1493 01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:43,680 It was heavy throughout the show. 1494 01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:46,320 What are you talking about? Like it was noticeably heavy for 1495 01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:48,280 me at the end cuz. I don't understand. 1496 01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:50,040 Three times in the last two episodes. 1497 01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:53,080 I thought this was the biggest irony of the show is because 1498 01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:56,760 this is about a narcotics unit. This is a cop getting addicted 1499 01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,480 to drugs. They're trying to figure out, 1500 01:23:59,960 --> 01:24:02,560 you know, this whole system, the lemon, Mulberry, all the shit 1501 01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:07,840 and they're they're still peddling caffeine tablets, 1502 01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:13,360 caffeine gum. This is legalized stimulants is 1503 01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,880 what you're doing. I'm like, this is a drug. 1504 01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:19,840 People have withdrawal symptoms. They don't have coffee like 1505 01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,280 caffeine. People have caffeine addictions. 1506 01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:25,600 I'm like, you're feeding into this addiction and shit. 1507 01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:30,840 I don't understand why they would take the Coffee Co, the 1508 01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:34,720 Coffee Co product placement. That was completely strange to 1509 01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:37,360 me. I was like, I understand there's 1510 01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:39,680 money in this, but this is diluting the message, don't you 1511 01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:45,000 think? Like, I don't know and #2 every 1512 01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:49,440 single person who saw G Song was like, are you OK? 1513 01:24:49,440 --> 01:24:52,360 You look pale, you're sweating, your eyes are red, but 1514 01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:54,280 everything. It didn't matter if they were a 1515 01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:58,720 doctor, a nurse, a coworker, someone he saw on the street, a 1516 01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:00,720 grandma who was fixing talkbookie for him. 1517 01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,600 Didn't fucking matter. Everybody was commenting on his 1518 01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:08,400 appearance and everybody to me was a narc. 1519 01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:12,880 I'm like, is the entire society looking out for drug addicts? 1520 01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:15,840 Yeah, I mean, that was part of the anxiety of the show too, 1521 01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,360 Yes. It's like it was noticeable on 1522 01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:19,440 him. Right. 1523 01:25:19,480 --> 01:25:22,480 But even when it wasn't, even when it wasn't and he just kind 1524 01:25:22,480 --> 01:25:24,360 of looked a little pallid. Yeah. 1525 01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:26,760 They were like, are you like? Jumping no, trying to like 1526 01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:29,840 constantly feed him because it was a it was an appetite 1527 01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:31,760 suppressant. Yes, so. 1528 01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:35,040 Yeah. I did like that detail is that 1529 01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,320 you almost you'd never see him eat, right? 1530 01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,680 Never see him eat. You only see him drinking water, 1531 01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:44,760 stuffing pills down his gullet, and you never see him sleep. 1532 01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:46,120 You never see him eat. Yeah. 1533 01:25:46,480 --> 01:25:50,480 So yeah. Really really crazy show if you 1534 01:25:50,480 --> 01:25:54,960 don't want high glasses. Yeah, if you yeah, make sure 1535 01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:58,000 you're ready for anxiety inducing ride, Yes. 1536 01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:02,480 So obviously the the throw against the computers was very 1537 01:26:02,480 --> 01:26:05,920 satisfying with the prosecutor, but what did you think of the 1538 01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:12,440 slap in the next? Oh my God, I loved it. 1539 01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:14,600 Oh, that was one note that I almost didn't say. 1540 01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:17,960 Thank you for bringing it up. Because they go to the hospital 1541 01:26:18,480 --> 01:26:24,160 after the cheating wife, the widow attempted murder because 1542 01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,320 the taxi drivers on the loose, right? 1543 01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:30,080 He's literally roaming town trying to get away from the cops 1544 01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:34,120 and he tries to kill the widow because he thinks there's 1545 01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:34,880 evidence. Whatever. 1546 01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:40,360 She's in the hospital, and G Song clocks Quaniel's character 1547 01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:44,320 in the face, the prosecutor, and the prosecutor hits him back. 1548 01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,680 But he's, you know, weak and stuff. 1549 01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,920 He's trying to make it through another, like, withdrawal 1550 01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,280 episode. And he just falls on the floor, 1551 01:26:52,440 --> 01:26:54,320 collapses. Yeah, collapses. 1552 01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:59,920 And I love when you and Jin, the journalist shows up because she 1553 01:26:59,920 --> 01:27:04,080 just walks down the hallway and she's like, like, she winds back 1554 01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:10,000 and hits the prosecutor so hard. I was like, yes, girl, like 1555 01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:11,840 what? Come and get him. 1556 01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:15,080 Come and get this man. And she said, I just came down 1557 01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:19,440 here to see who was fighting. Like she was just, Oh my God, I 1558 01:27:19,440 --> 01:27:22,880 loved her character so much. Also, Oh, we didn't talk about 1559 01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:29,080 this last thing, the chemistry between Tomido and G Song. 1560 01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:34,440 These crime dramas, they just, they just. 1561 01:27:34,440 --> 01:27:37,880 Really get you delusional about these ships. 1562 01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:39,840 Yeah. Yep, Yep. 1563 01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:42,960 They get you all riled up and then nothing happens. 1564 01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:46,080 Yep. Because tell me why those two 1565 01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:47,840 should have been married with three kinds by the end of the 1566 01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:50,240 show. Right, right. 1567 01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:55,720 Anyway, that's all I have to say about connection. 1568 01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:57,840 Anything else? Yep, that's it. 1569 01:27:57,840 --> 01:27:59,600 That's. All right, nice. 1570 01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,040 Thank you so much for coming on, Caitlin. 1571 01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,600 I haven't absolutely every time you're on. 1572 01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:06,480 Yes. Thank you for watching 1573 01:28:06,480 --> 01:28:10,160 Connection again, going on this wild ride with me. 1574 01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:13,800 Before we get out of here, where can people find you online in 1575 01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:16,320 case they don't know? I'm I'm everywhere. 1576 01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:21,800 I have TikTok, I have Instagram, I have a blog, I have a podcast. 1577 01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:24,680 You can find the podcast on Apple podcast and Spotify. 1578 01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:28,920 I now have a YouTube channel under the same name, No Sleep 1579 01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:34,960 for dramas #4 No Sleep Number 4 Dramas podcast, and you can find 1580 01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:38,720 that and use that in all of those places to find me. 1581 01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,240 Thank you so much, Caitlin. This was so much fun. 1582 01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,200 And that's been our show. I'm Jessica and this has been 1583 01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:45,920 the Teba Kia Rambles podcast.