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I'm Jessica and this is ATC 
presents. 

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Their Bucky Rambles. 
Were a couple of friends review 

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Korean dramas on a very special 
episode. 

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I have my guest today. 
Alex from the Holly been 

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podcasting Gasps how are you 
Alex? 

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I'm doing great. 
Thank you for having me. 

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How are you? 
I'm so happy for you to be. 

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Here, we have been very friendly
all over the socials for a while

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now and I'm just so excited who 
have a fellow podcaster on and 

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to talk about a very special 
drama. 

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It is the very first sangguk AKA
historical kdrama that were 

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covering on the biblical rumbles
podcast ever. 

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So I just wanted to break it in 
with a wonderful guest who was 

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willing and able to watch a 
psychic. 

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That is not One's cup of tea. 
If you don't know Alex she has 

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her own podcast, a k-drama 
podcast or Holly you podcast, 

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and she is just wonderful. 
Please go give her podcast a 

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listen. 
Please go give it a follow. 

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All over the socials as well. 
Alex, what was your introduction

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to kdramas? 
So my introduction was one that 

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I think was one for a lot of 
other people. 

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It was Boys Over Flowers. 
Yes, but I didn't watch it. 

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Until like the end of 2018. 
So it's like lately to the game.

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Wow. 
Okay, so you watched it almost a

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decade after it was aired. 
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school. 
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doing grad school and I was 
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But my school got hit by a 
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So we were out of class for like
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Wait, well, hurricane was this? 
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North Carolina. 
I don't. 

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Ok. 
Ok. 

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So as well as goes, yeah. 
Got you, I don't remember which 

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one it was, but the name of it 
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Like I was I'm I was in North 
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Inland. 
So it was fine. 

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Yeah. 
But like obviously my school 

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wasn't like it. 
Wilmington got hit really hard 

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like you can't even get in for 
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So no school for a month and 
that was the first time in 

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almost two years. 
I had free time. 

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So I was like, I don't know what
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of Netflix and I was like, you 
know what, I had heard a Boys 

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Over Flowers from the from, like
the manual or the mango or 

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whatever. 
Yeah. 

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Yes, says like I'm gonna watch 
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as when M Garden was airing. 
Oh shit. 

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That's right. 
The Chinese remake. 

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Yes. 
So I literally went from from 

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Boys Over Flowers, like binged 
it because it was amazing. 

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Even, you know in 2018 it was 
it's so good. 

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Like it's bad. 
Like it's cheesy but it's great.

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And and I went straight from 
that to like Meteor Garden, and 

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that's not just big step up to 
like, it is like the end of your

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same story. 
Over again. 

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It's the same thing but they 
made some improvements like 

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surgical Cuts is just very good.
Very well done and I can't 

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believe you just got skip to 
like you know it's hot. 

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I don't think I made the jump to
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for like years. 
They took no really I'm too yeah

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almost wasn't immediate like 
you've made the jump real fast 

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II, jumped ship from Korean 
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So with that and I just went 
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for a while like for a Longtime 
the Taiwanese dramas are like a 

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whole other ballgame. 
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Nice. 
Yes I did that. 

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And it wasn't until I got into 
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That I kind of went back to the 
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Nice. 
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Full circle. 
Full circle, love it. 

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Yes. 
So if you if you don't know 

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about Kate Boys Over Flowers, I 
highly recommend you go research

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it. 
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this day, I'm not sure if I 
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Flowers but it is foundational 
for so many people foundational 

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for me. 
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ever and I came out of that 
drama loving it and I was madly 

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in love with Lee Min-ho right? 
I mean so yeah yes so there is 

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if That was a tree that would 
definitely be a ring on the 

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trees like the Lehman haut de 
Lulu era. 

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So anyway, in that era, oh good,
I love to hear it. 

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Thank you so much for giving 
your background on kdrama. 

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I am going to ask this of more 
guests as they come on because I

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think that's always a fun 
question to ask. 

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How did you even get here? 
Because it's nice. 

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Never like a natural. 
Like, well, I was watching. 

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Ting. 
Once Upon a Time on ABC, Family,

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and then they showed a kdrama 
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is very natural. 
No, and never, it's not like 

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that, not that easy. 
Again, I'm going to go into some

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housekeeping really fast before 
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All right, so we're going to get

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started talking about the 
synopsis and the are day and all

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that for the Ground clown so 
I'll read them. 

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I'd Ramallah synopsis. 
I have cut it down tremendously 

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because it was long and weirdly 
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So here's here goes, Jocelyn is 
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uprisings in a power, struggle 
surrounding King, even to avoid 

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assassination, a clown named 
Hassan who looks almost 

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identical to the king is brought
to the Palace to take his place.

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Now, Hassan is nervous that 
someone in the palace will find 

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out, he's not the real King. 
He falls in love with the 

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beautiful queen. 
You saw. 

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So the crown clown originally 
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2019. 
It's 16 episodes long and I 

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believe you both watched it on 
Netflix, so it's currently 

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available on Netflix. 
If you want to watch it yourself

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it has Kim. 
He won as the Director. 

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She is a very prolific director 
because she's directed Vincenzo 

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soundtrack. 
Number one and Little Women, 

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which is currently airing right 
now in the year 2022. 

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And actually we just covered 
Vincenzo like an episode or two 

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two ago in this currencies and 
that we're on. 

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So that's wonderful. 
You can just scroll back in your

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podcast feed and listen to 
another Kimmy. 

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One drama. 
The ground clown was written by 

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Kim Sun duck and there's not 
much info on the screen writer. 

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I think that he wrote another 
Saga but it's quite unclear. 

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So I'm not going to go ahead and
say, like he wrote this, I don't

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know, and it's co-written by 
shouldn't happen. 

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She is a wonderful screenwriter 
who wrote Hometown, Ted chaough 

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from 2021. 
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that Kim Sun duck. 
It's brought a lot of the 

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historical and Saga aspect of 
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And then she known wrote, 
probably a lot of the more 

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tender moments throughout the 
show because of how her work on 

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Hometown, chatter child. 
Let's just divide that I get, is

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very good show Stars. 
Yes, I'm Tasha definitely watch 

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it. 
The show Stars Yeo Jin, goo as 

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Hassan and King Ethan he's been 
in about 13. 

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Movies including Hawaii a 
monster boy which is an action. 

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Since this action suspense 
thriller with an All-Star cast 

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and he's been at about 25 TV 
shows, he's played pretty much 

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every vert younger version of an
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You could possibly think of and 
he was a prolific child actor. 

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So it's kind of weird for a lot 
of people to see him grown up 

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and play a more mature roles. 
We did Cover a judging go drama.

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Last Is it on their back? 
And that was beyond evil. 

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So that was the 2021 drama. 
I think for 2022 people might 

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recognize him from link. 
Eat love kill you might 

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recognize him from hotel, de 
luna, my Absolute Boyfriend. 

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A lot of Dramas, he's very, he's
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I would feel like you could 
probably be like oh, it's that 

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guy. 
He's co-star. 

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Is he saying? 
As she plays Queen Stone? 

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Also a child actor. 
And she's been in dramas since 

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2002, and you might see her 
recently in the Reds leave from 

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2021, which was up for a bunch 
of facts on the wards and was 

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really well, received, 
critically, and commercially. 

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And recently, I think she's on 
the currently airing drama. 

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The law Cafe. 
Are you watching the law Cafe? 

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I'm not, I've never even heard 
of it. 

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Fair enough. 
Fair enough. 

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I'm not going to knock you for 
watching. 

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Curly, are you drama? 
I am constantly trying to play 

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catch-up. 
So yeah, that's a whole nother 

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story for me. 
A lot of kdrama washers, but you

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saying is a great actress, the 
supporting actors. 

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I'll go through two of them 
because there's a lot of actors 

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in this drama but just two of 
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Kim Seung Ki young as Chief 
secretary and he's been in like 

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nineteen movies, including the 
pirate. / Royal treasure from 

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this year 2022. 
And I think this is pretty big. 

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He started memories of murder 
from 2003. 

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He played Detective salt alien 
Big deal. 

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He's been about 14 TV shows, 
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racketboy is from 2021. 
And then, we also have one. 

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Hey, he'll as she's to the left 
State Chancellor, buzz, buzz 

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word in any psychic trauma. 
He's another crazy. 

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Great idea. 
She of kdrama and K Cinema. 

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He's been in about fifty two 
movies. 

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He's been acting since the 90s. 
I think I saw him last in 

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Peninsula from I need 20, which 
is the train to Busan Sequel and

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then he's been in 47k, trembles 
including winter Sonata from 20 

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2002. 
My name is Kim Sam Soon with 

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hyeongbin from 2005 Cain and 
Abel, which is such an 

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underrated kdramas knee. 
He's been in lie to me, which 

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was my first kdrama ever 
jealousy. 

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Incarnate searched www from 
2019, which we also covered this

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season on the pod. 
P on Netflix. 

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That's a 2021 drama. 
And I think most recently 

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forecasting love and whether off
from this year 2022, you watch 

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that one? 
No, no I did not. 

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So I sometimes my tone gives 
away like how I feel, but I'm 

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not a song kong person so it 
takes me a while to go through 

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his filmography. 
If I even like get there and 

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then POC menu and I was like, 
you know, whatever she's doing 

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like Same thing over and over. 
I love her and I actually have a

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little bit of a weather nerd, so
I was like, super excited about 

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it and I made it like four 
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Oh shit. 
Okay, so I'm okay and yeah 

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thinking yeah no I really need a
maybe post hurricane because 

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I've watched her kdramas post 
hurricanes and those are such a 

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weirdo state that you're in but 
here watching a gauge on. 

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Okay, so we are on the other 
side of who's behind the camera 

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and who's in front of the 
camera. 

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Alex, tell me, what are your 
general thoughts on the crowned 

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clown? 
So, the first episode took me 

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three weeks to watch because I 
hated it and I actually ended up

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really enjoying the show somehow
good night. 

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All right, the the first episode
was miserable to get through. 

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But after that, I think all the 
side characters are what sold it

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for me. 
Like, honestly. 

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Like, I love you. 
Oh, jingle. 

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Like, he was one of the first 
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recognized in movies or in 
dramas because I watched Hotel 

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Del Luna and Absolute Boyfriend,
like back. 

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To back and do my son. 
And I was like because I really 

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liked it, but I was like, just 
great and that was also my 

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introduction. 
I you I had no idea who she was 

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and Hotel Del Luna, right. 
Right. 

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Are you the fairy goddess Queen?
Right? 

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No idea. 
I was like, oh, she's great. 

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I love her and then everyone was
like, yeah, no kidding. 

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So how does I was really 
excited? 

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Because I'm not a big like, like
historical drama person anyway, 

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but I was like, it's not looking
good. 

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It's fine and and know No, he 
did not carry the show for me at

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all. 
Um, really okay. 

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So um, the the character 
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characters though when getting 
to know them I just I loved it. 

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It was there so good and like a 
eunuch Joe was adorable. 

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Yes. 
So there's some people that 

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you're like you leave a drama 
and you're like they are some of

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the heart of the show he and he 
was so cute what's adorable? 

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I would die for that man. 
He is Lovely. 

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Just absolutely wonderful. 
Okay. 

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So you were sold on the side. 
Characters weren't really even 

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though you loved you didn't gu 
you were not sticking around to 

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finish the show necessarily for 
him. 

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His acting was great, like, 
absolutely like being able to 

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play two characters and make 
them feel like, two different 

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characters is such a hard thing 
to do, but but I just, I hated 

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both the characters. 
Well, let me ask that, like, why

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did you Hey, those characters 
because he is playing two 

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different routes. 
So so the OG King, I don't 

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remember Lee. 
Hyung. 

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Yeah, without getting too much 
into spoilers. 

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He's just kind of a jerk all 
over like, no matter what he was

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mean to literally everybody. 
And I'm like, I just not here 

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for the toxicity. 
Like, yeah, it's sort of, it 

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makes sense. 
Like, as you kind of get to know

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more More like, what's going on?
It makes sense, which is why I 

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think it got better for me 
towards the later in the show. 

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When you start to figure out 
everything out a little bit more

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but like in the first episode 
where it's just like, he's just 

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like doing his thing. 
Killing a lot of people and I'm 

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like, this is pointless. 
Um, okay, I see you weren't 

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quite gelling with like the 
political know I'd about it all,

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okay. 
And then for like, Hassan, he he

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got better towards the end, but 
it was like, I don't know what 

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it was about him, but it was 
just like he was just kind of 

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like doing things that didn't 
make sense and not always 

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listening to people. 
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guess it fits his character 
like, like it makes sense, but I

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just didn't like, like, I 
everybody's infatuated with him 

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for some reason and I just 
wasn't like in the show, like, 

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people were like, oh, I kind of 
love you, You're great. 

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And I'm like, is he? 
Okay. 

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So let's put a, put a book Yak 
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dissect that. 
But for my general thoughts, I 

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thought this was one of the best
Saga books I have ever watched 

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in my life. 
Of that. 

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You got me so worried because 
you were sending me messages 

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saying, it took me three weeks 
to finish episode one, and I was

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like, what? 
Like that it started it yet and 

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I was so worried. 
I was like, oh shit, what am I 

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gonna do? 
I don't have like three weeks to

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just spend on one episode. 
So I was like, really bugging. 

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So I watched this show within a 
week. 

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All 16 episodes within a week. 
Took me no time. 

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Had no issues getting through 
the episode. 

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Thuds episode 1 was I found a 
very great episode, really good 

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ended on a cliffhanger. 
Showed you everything you needed

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to know all the players 
involved. 

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The factions or the political 
aspects that are at play here 

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and I think ultimately I was 
sold on this. 

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The story that's basically 
inspired by Mark Twain's The 

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Prince and the Pauper. 
Blueprint where someone is 

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replacing another person. 
There's doppelgangers involved. 

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And even though it's kind of 
one-sided because the king 

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doesn't replace the clown, you 
know what I'm saying? 

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I would have been sired. 
That would be you know what? 

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The way to the right things but 
they didn't do that. 

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It was just one-sided. 
Really liked you watching Goos 

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acting. 
Yeah. 

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It was a great away Blown Away 
by his acting. 

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I thought that he just had so 
much versatility. 

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One side of him was alarming and
unhinged and then the other side

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was incredibly endearing and 
righteous. 

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And I think the scenes that 
really spoke to me for his 

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performance were the ones where 
he was acting against himself 

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and there were precious few of 
them but they were so 

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captivating to watch him playing
off of himself, which again, 

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Parent Trap that somehow because
there's no way that he's in the 

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same frame at the same time. 
So it's really cool because he's

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probably playing off of nothing 
when he's filming it but then 

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they you know CG is superimposed
whatever both of them in post 

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and it's just really cool to see
him play. 

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This really crazy King who 
actually existed like a lot of 

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these characters and politician.
Ins are based on real-life 

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politicians of you're in Korea. 
So, I caught a like, oh my God. 

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Now it's like a semi 
historically accurate, not 

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historically accurate with a, 
with a clown taking over the 

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Kings, but doc, doesn't, that's 
not part of the history. 

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But I do like when I like when 
Saga Cooks, take a seed of like 

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a story in history and blow it 
out of proportions and that's 

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what this show is, I didn't have
that much issue. 

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With the political aspects, I 
find that over time. 

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I have gotten a lot more 
comfortable with Palace, 

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politics and etiquette, and all 
that crap. 

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That's in the historical. 
Dramas, if you had asked me 10 

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years ago, what I thought of 
this drama or whatever and you 

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made me watch it back then I 
probably wouldn't be so up on it

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because of all of the political 
machinations that are happening 

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throughout the show. 
Yeah, I think that was a lot of.

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My problem is, I've only watched
like two or three other like 

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historical dramas. 
Okay. 

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All right, let me know if you 
had any questions later on in 

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the spoiler section because I 
can try and answer them for you.

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I was trying to figure out stuff
too but then I was like I had 

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this thought in my head I was 
like man I don't know if Alex 

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has watched a lot of Psychics. 
Maybe this is like a like tough 

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anyway. 
What can talk about that later? 

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But you know one thing that I 
know 10 years ago I would have 

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liked as much as I loved today 
was the romance between Hassan 

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And the queen. 
Um, what did you think of that? 

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I felt really bad for the queen 
early on when it was like she 

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doesn't really know what she's 
getting into. 

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Um, okay. 
Because like, she's just clearly

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like falling for him, but I 
wasn't sure how I was going to 

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end. 
So I was like, this is going to 

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maybe devastate her at some 
point. 

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Um, so I feel really bad for her
on that end, but the actual like

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Rome edits from itself. 
I'm a sucker for romance. 

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I was here for it. 
I was here, I was like eating it

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up like it was a five course 
meal as well. 

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I loved you so long as the 
queen, I had only seen her 

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before in the red sleeve, which 
is another Saugatuck, from a 

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recent Saga house. 
Like she is amazing in the red 

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sleeve uncredible show, 
incredible performance. 

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And I thought, when I saw her as
a queen and this y'all was like,

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what is homegirl going to do? 
Because she has in my personal 

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bias opinion, or whatever. 
She has huge shoes to fill and 

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they're her own shoes. 
What am I gonna do if she was, 

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like, knock if she's not that 
good? 

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Good in this. 
She was great. 

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She was great, she was wonderful
Queen, I found her character. 

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So quiet, graceful, gentle 
sweet, a dignified and all these

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aspects that sometimes in 
Saugus, you don't have a love 

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interest that meets all of these
things, wonderful criteria. 

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You know, she was very 
intelligent and intuitive, 

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especially when it came to 
Palace Affairs and etiquette. 

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And ultimately, I admired how 
she had a way with words. 

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I found that she was a Rate 
Sweet Talker. 

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Yeah and she had the most 
romantic things to say. 

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I was like, homegirl. 
He is whipped already. 

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You don't need to do this. 
Like this is extra and it was 

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just beautiful, beautiful. 
I think that to your point to 

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talk about some of the other 
side characters, I found that in

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general, most of the characters 
were painted in Shades of Gray. 

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There were not like black and 
white good and bad characters. 

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So I think on the surface there 
are but if you look a little 

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closer, you're like, wow, these 
people have valid motivations or

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they have a really interesting 
backstory that makes them 

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interesting to juxtaposed 
against the other person that's 

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on the good, you know, quote 
unquote team for the, you know, 

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clown. 
And I love that about the show 

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that you can. 
You can chew on the fat a little

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bit on the other side 
characters. 

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And not just Is he oh my God, 
I'm messing up. 

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His name, haasan's clown 
character and his doppelganger 

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with the King. 
I think the last couple things 

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that I'll say, is that I found 
this show to be kind of, how do 

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I put it? 
Like, it was kind of like a loss

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of Innocence story in more ways 
than one. 

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Yes, and that's really 
compelling to me. 

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I don't feel like, hey, dramas 
necessarily are known for 

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painting pictures of like, loss 
of innocence. 

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And, you know, learning trial by
fire. 

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Fire and stuff like that. 
It's usually the person is the 

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protagonist is Good from the 
beginning and they just have a 

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lot of hardships, but they're 
still good throughout. 

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And sometimes in this show, 
that's not the case. 

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Like they go through a lot of 
moral quandaries and they have 

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they asked a lot of questions of
themselves and others. 

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So I found that really great, 
you know, in a in any drama. 

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That's a good thing, right? 
No, I agree. 

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I think they Did a really good 
job of that. 

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And like you said, with the 
Shades of Gray on the 

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characters, I'm a sucker for a 
great character. 

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Like it's one of those, it's a 
huge character can technically 

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go either way. 
It's not always clear that 

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they're going to stay on like 
one side or the other and it 

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like would make sense for them 
to jump ship somehow or have 

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some sort of ulterior motive 
that even if it's not like the 

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main villain side a false and 
they go Rogue somewhere else. 

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Like I could have easily seen 
that happen quite a few times. 

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Yeah, for sure. 
I think something that bothered 

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a lot of About the show. 
Is that a night in mind this 

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though was that it feels like a 
to act show. 

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The first Eight Episodes is kind
of one story and then something 

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happens at the end of episode 
eight like Ron that time. 

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And then the last half of the 
show is a whole different act 

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with kind of a different goal. 
And I like that about the show. 

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I am, I think it made sense for 
that to happen though. 

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Because yes, I do too. 
I think the big thing that we're

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trying not to talk about is kind
of granted in The Narrative of 

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the show. 
Like you just kind of think. 

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Yeah, this was going to happen 
at some point, but I think a lot

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of people found that when that 
happened it like lost some of 

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the dramatic tension, if found 
it elsewhere, that's all they 

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gained it elsewhere. 
So, that's how I wasn't an issue

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for me, but a lot of people An 
issue with that. 

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Yeah, I think maybe if I didn't,
oh, go for it in jibt, all in 

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like three days. 
Oh, II might have had more of an

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issue if I was dragging it out 
and like had like a week in 

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between episodes to process. 
Mmm. 

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And notice that like difference 
between like episode a even and 

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nine like that transition 
already. 

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But I I feel like watching it 
all almost like a really long 

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movie, it just made sense how it
shifted and I didn't bother me 

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either like like I honestly 
didn't even notice. 

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Yeah, yeah, like I said romance 
was wonderful. 

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The score on this show was 
stunning to me. 

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I'm a huge like movies. 
Soundtrack score nerd or 

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whatever. 
And so when a kdrama is a good 

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score, I'm like I sit up 
straight like I'm like oh my 

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God, they're actually doing 
something, it's not just OST 

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like this is orchestral score, 
you know what I'm saying? 

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Hmm. 
Did you feel any type of way 

446
00:25:37,700 --> 00:25:40,900
about the osc or the score? 
So with that was T. 

447
00:25:40,900 --> 00:25:42,600
I didn't. 
I only noticed one song that 

448
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,700
actually had vocals on it. 
Like only one of them like 

449
00:25:44,700 --> 00:25:46,200
normally I am all about the 
osts. 

450
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,100
Yeah. 
And I don't quite a few. 

451
00:25:48,300 --> 00:25:51,800
And so I was like, oh, like when
that one song Hit, I was like, 

452
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,500
oh, wait a second, there's been 
no vocals. 

453
00:25:53,500 --> 00:25:56,000
But I had to take some notes on,
like the score itself. 

454
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,000
There were some songs that were 
giving me parts and Caribbean 

455
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,200
Vibes which took me out a little
bit. 

456
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,300
Okay. 
So you're getting Hans Zimmer. 

457
00:26:02,500 --> 00:26:04,300
Yeah. 
Hospital fives from it. 

458
00:26:04,300 --> 00:26:05,400
Yeah. 
And I was like, I don't know 

459
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,300
where this is. 
Coming from. 

460
00:26:06,300 --> 00:26:09,100
And then every time there was 
tension, the, the score they 

461
00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:12,500
would use for that sounds like 
the Among Us sound like the 

462
00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:18,500
nearer. 
Oh, okay, a nice smooth. 

463
00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:22,400
Look at comparisons and so 
outside of that, like I thought 

464
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,300
the songs fit very well, it 
would just be like a few things 

465
00:26:25,300 --> 00:26:28,000
that kept taking me out a little
bit like, like the among us 

466
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,800
know. 
I never I didn't get that but 

467
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,800
I'm not, I have not really 
familiar with Among Us. 

468
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,100
So I'll, I'll see if I can clip 
it out of like the drama. 

469
00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:41,300
I'd like a find it in, like a 
monkey. 

470
00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:43,400
Yes. 
And send it to you and it to me.

471
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,300
Yeah. 
Because it just, it's so much. 

472
00:26:46,700 --> 00:26:50,100
Oh damn, what's your okay? 
So what trip me up was in the 

473
00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:53,300
score they had a love theme and 
it was stunning gorgeous but 

474
00:26:53,300 --> 00:26:56,300
what soon as they started 
playing at the melody was 

475
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,200
recognizable to me and I was 
like where the hell if I heard 

476
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,200
this before? 
Before I was going nuts, I'm 

477
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,300
talking like 3 a.m. 
I'm trying to get Google to 

478
00:27:03,300 --> 00:27:07,300
recognize what this this melody 
is. 

479
00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:11,300
Playing it on like a keyboard, 
piano app, on my phone, like 

480
00:27:11,300 --> 00:27:14,300
trying to like figure it out. 
I was like, have I heard this in

481
00:27:14,300 --> 00:27:17,200
another score before is it a 
classical piece of music? 

482
00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:23,700
I finally figured it out. 
So the Love Theme they used was 

483
00:27:23,700 --> 00:27:27,400
Franz Schubert's serenade. 
Oh, is a classical piece of 

484
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:32,000
music from the 1800s and I I 
lost my shit, because, you know,

485
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,700
it's been a couple of days of 
just like Mania trying to figure

486
00:27:35,700 --> 00:27:38,400
out where the score is from, 
where they took it from, where 

487
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,400
is it from all this stuff? 
Finally, I find it. 

488
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,000
And then it's on YouTube with, 
like, 61 million views on this 

489
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,000
like, and this YouTube video 
super serenade as soon as I 

490
00:27:50,008 --> 00:27:52,100
start playing, I'm like, like I 
will start crying. 

491
00:27:52,100 --> 00:27:55,700
Like I was that's it. 
That's lumpy a lot of people 

492
00:27:55,700 --> 00:27:59,400
might recognize the Love Theme 
though because it's associated. 

493
00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:03,600
Added with the classic four 
seasons, kdrama summer scent 

494
00:28:03,900 --> 00:28:07,200
with seungheon young and Legend 
song. 

495
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,800
That's a very old, not very old,
but it's a classic kdrama from 

496
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,900
back in the day. 
And I conveniently have never 

497
00:28:15,900 --> 00:28:18,900
watched Somerset. 
So I did not have any issues 

498
00:28:18,900 --> 00:28:22,500
associating. 
You know, the Schubert song with

499
00:28:22,700 --> 00:28:25,900
their love theme in the show. 
And in fact, I really liked how 

500
00:28:25,900 --> 00:28:29,400
they kind of added and changed 
the song. 

501
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:34,900
Bit to fit you know this show 
and how they didn't just stick 

502
00:28:34,900 --> 00:28:37,900
Schubert song in there. 
They re-recorded it you know for

503
00:28:37,900 --> 00:28:40,400
the show and I was in love with 
it. 

504
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,800
I am so happy that I found where
the melody is from and you can 

505
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,500
look it up yourself. 
The entire score is available on

506
00:28:47,500 --> 00:28:51,600
Spotify, which is how I like I 
found it and I was like where 

507
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,200
this is what I the Mania started
because I was like, okay I hear 

508
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,600
the Melody and I can't find it 
anyway. 

509
00:28:57,900 --> 00:29:01,500
That's beside the point. 
Anyway, let me give you some fun

510
00:29:01,500 --> 00:29:05,600
facts about the show and then we
can give our ratings and then we

511
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,200
can dive into spoilers. 
How does this home? 

512
00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:09,100
Sounds good? 
Okay. 

513
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:14,600
So there is a very, very 
professional, you know, 

514
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,500
well-researched list on 
Wikipedia that gives you the 

515
00:29:18,508 --> 00:29:22,000
highest rated series on cable 
television for kdramas. 

516
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,400
And the crowned clowned is 
sitting at number 24, so it's 

517
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,100
the 24th. 
Highest rated series on cable 

518
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:30,900
television, which is really 
good. 

519
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:36,600
Had high ratings throughout, I, 
you mentioned, Prince and the 

520
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,600
Pauper. 
So the whole show Crown cloud is

521
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,800
a remake of the 2012 movie, 
Masquerade, starring evm gun and

522
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,300
the queen in that movie is 
played by Han hyo-joo. 

523
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:54,800
From where's on YouTube? 
W0 leading lady from W. 

524
00:29:55,000 --> 00:30:00,500
Yeah so I conveniently have 
watched that movie and it is 

525
00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:01,700
excellent. 
I can tell you. 

526
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,000
So if you are not fully want to,
if you don't want to fully 

527
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,600
commit to Crown Cloud right now 
and you just want to get a taste

528
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,600
of what the story is. 
You can always watch this 

529
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,600
two-hour movie which won best 
film and director at the 49th. 

530
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,800
Baek zyoung Awards. 
It is an excellent movie. 

531
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,300
Highly recommended, I might have
to watch it now. 

532
00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:21,600
Definitely watch it. 
It's good. 

533
00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:23,400
I remember thinking like this is
cool. 

534
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,000
I vividly remember watching the 
movie and going, this is cool. 

535
00:30:26,300 --> 00:30:30,200
This is cool movie. 
I'm like, well done, almost 

536
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,500
everyone, like I said before, 
except for the clown, Hassan is 

537
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:38,600
based on a real historical 
figure of the Choson period And 

538
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,900
I have in my notes. 
I said this is a question to 

539
00:30:40,900 --> 00:30:43,300
myself. 
Did this win any awards? 

540
00:30:43,300 --> 00:30:45,000
Question mark question, mark, 
question, mark. 

541
00:30:46,300 --> 00:30:49,500
It did, it did win awards at the
55th Back song. 

542
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:54,100
Arts Awards, judging, goo was 
nominated for best actor and 

543
00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:55,400
actually didn't win. 
He didn't win. 

544
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,400
So it's just sad. 
But anyway, Kim Sung, Kyu, young

545
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,600
witch who played he played? 
Chief secretary Hawks on. 

546
00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:05,500
He was also nominated for best 
supporting actor in which is 

547
00:31:05,500 --> 00:31:07,200
great. 
So, they were nominated. 

548
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,700
They were it's just an honor to 
be nominated. 

549
00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:12,300
Just like it's an honor to be 
nominated for an Oscar. 

550
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,600
I wish that they had one and I 
think that's all for my fun 

551
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,100
facts. 
What would you rate this drama 

552
00:31:22,300 --> 00:31:26,700
out of five Soju bottles? 
Three and a half. 

553
00:31:26,700 --> 00:31:35,400
I think three and a half. 
Okay, I am in a rated. 4.5 4. 

554
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,000
So, 2 bottles out of, I love 
this show. 

555
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,800
I had a great time with it. 
I think that if you like 

556
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,300
political shows and you're 
definitely going to like it. 

557
00:31:45,900 --> 00:31:51,700
If you're a fan of really good, 
sweet, humble romances then 

558
00:31:51,700 --> 00:31:54,900
you're going to like the show 
and if you like yaojin goo, 

559
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,700
there is nothing that I can say 
that will deter you from 

560
00:31:58,700 --> 00:32:00,500
watching the show you should 
definitely watch. 

561
00:32:00,500 --> 00:32:04,000
This is like a Master Class. 
It's from your jinguk, I swear. 

562
00:32:04,700 --> 00:32:08,700
Okay, so with that, I think 
we're going to get into spoilers

563
00:32:08,700 --> 00:32:18,300
right after this. 
You want to come in? 

564
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,500
All right Alex run the other 
side of spoiler. 

565
00:32:20,500 --> 00:32:24,800
So anything goes where would you
like to start about this show 

566
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:32,000
and talking all things spoilers?
Gosh, um, the endings what's 

567
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,600
fresh on my mind but I kind of 
want. 

568
00:32:33,700 --> 00:32:37,900
Okay, listen about the ending. 
So let's talk about this. 

569
00:32:37,900 --> 00:32:42,200
I also had some qualms with this
ending which is why I gave the 

570
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,300
show a 4.5 instead of a 5 Stars,
the ending. 

571
00:32:46,900 --> 00:32:49,600
And I mean ending is in the 
final 20 or so minutes of the 

572
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,900
chest. 
Not the full hour because a 

573
00:32:52,900 --> 00:32:54,700
full, there's nothing wrong with
the flowers. 

574
00:32:54,700 --> 00:32:57,300
Just the last like, 20, 15, 20 
minutes of the show. 

575
00:32:57,700 --> 00:33:01,900
It was a bit agonizing because I
didn't think they necessarily go

576
00:33:01,900 --> 00:33:05,700
that route. 
I mean to me, it almost felt 

577
00:33:05,700 --> 00:33:08,900
like what else could they 
possibly throw at us? 

578
00:33:08,900 --> 00:33:11,500
It's the say it to me. 
It was almost the same as if 

579
00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:14,100
you're cooling down after a 
workout, you're trying to get 

580
00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:17,600
your heart rate down, you're 
stretching your doing all this. 

581
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,000
And then, the trainer comes in 
out of nowhere. 

582
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,900
And I can't drop and give me 
Honey, that's what the last 20 

583
00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:25,300
minutes of the show felt like, 
because like, for what? 

584
00:33:25,300 --> 00:33:26,900
Why did they have to go that 
far? 

585
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,700
Yeah. 
They had me, they cut me. 

586
00:33:30,700 --> 00:33:33,400
I was so happy with like how it 
was wrapping up and then it was 

587
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,700
like, yes, wait, yeah, wait 
what? 

588
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,800
Yeah, that's exactly how I felt 
too. 

589
00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:44,100
I felt that they were going 
about it the right way. 

590
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,200
They had, you know, I will 
accept a bit of a Time jump. 

591
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,200
They had he ruled for what? 
Maybe like a year or so they 

592
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,400
kind of made it seem like it was
only a short period of time but 

593
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,700
it could have been longer. 
It was kind of a big it was 

594
00:33:59,700 --> 00:34:05,500
about a year because they had 
talked about At one point, when 

595
00:34:05,500 --> 00:34:10,800
the gisaeng I can't remember her
name, but when she was leaving 

596
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,100
at the end to go to somewhere 
else, three years. 

597
00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:14,100
Yeah. 
Okay. 

598
00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:18,100
So that's why I'm thinking it 
was only a year so he ruled in 

599
00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:20,100
peace and prosperity for like a 
year. 

600
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:24,699
Then he leaves the throne to. 
Another Royal who is kind and 

601
00:34:24,699 --> 00:34:27,500
shares, his values. 
Whatever, honestly, solid move. 

602
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,100
It's all I move. 
Not have no issues with that. 

603
00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:33,400
Yeah, he never meant to pass on 
his bloodline anyway. 

604
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,100
He As which I found kind of like
odd because I'm like whatever 

605
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:38,800
you're there already. 
You know? 

606
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,800
I'm saying if I had you had your
at a theme park and you're like 

607
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,000
I'm not gonna ride that ride. 
Hey I hate tensions of writing 

608
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,800
the best right here which is 
character though. 

609
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,000
Of like he can. 
Yeah, he fixed everything and he

610
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,400
peaced out. 
He what I liked was that he left

611
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,500
the throne the monarchy better 
than how he found it. 

612
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,900
Yes, which I found really just 
in line with his character. 

613
00:34:59,900 --> 00:35:03,800
Exactly. 
Like you said the queen, Has 

614
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:04,900
dethroned. 
Which is fine. 

615
00:35:04,900 --> 00:35:07,900
She wanted it. 
I then I had a problem with that

616
00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:11,500
because the, yeah, because they 
made such a big fuss about being

617
00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:15,100
dethroned and then like they 
kind of glossed over it or 

618
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:17,600
they're like yeah sure we're 
going to let that happen to the 

619
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,100
move on and I'm feeling sitting 
was solid though because she 

620
00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:25,100
wasn't Dethrone necessarily for 
anything that she did wrong. 

621
00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:29,500
I think he probably dethroned 
her because she could no longer 

622
00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:33,600
have children, which is a very 
valid reason in back in charge 

623
00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:36,700
Dynasty to Dethrone a queen 
because he wanted a valid. 

624
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,100
Are yeah. 
I just uh so he dethroned her. 

625
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,300
I feel like she wanted to 
because she yeah. 

626
00:35:42,500 --> 00:35:46,200
She said the reason she was 
like, okay, Dethrone me first. 

627
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,600
Yeah, he was like, wow, he kind 
of had this look like No And she

628
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,200
was like if you leave and you 
leave me here without being 

629
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,100
dethroned, I will become the 
queen Dowager and I will never 

630
00:35:56,100 --> 00:35:58,500
get to leave the palace. 
We will never be together. 

631
00:35:58,900 --> 00:36:01,900
Yeah, like like okay of that 
little Logic, the logic behind 

632
00:36:01,900 --> 00:36:04,600
it makes sense. 
I just feel like They skipped 

633
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,200
over a lot of drama that would 
have happened between her being 

634
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,700
dethroned and him just 
abdicating. 

635
00:36:10,900 --> 00:36:13,400
Like, but he was a very easy 
discernment. 

636
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,900
I'll give you that. 
There's like that all of that 

637
00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:19,100
they're like, okay, we're going 
to give their land, I can't do 

638
00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:21,700
this. 
He desperately tried to keep her

639
00:36:21,700 --> 00:36:27,200
on the throne not have her dear 
owned for 16 episodes in the 

640
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,400
last 20 minutes. 
She's like, okay, go ahead, do 

641
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,200
it. 
It was a little bit like okay. 

642
00:36:33,700 --> 00:36:35,900
Then he abdicates. 
Yeah which also isn't a big 

643
00:36:35,900 --> 00:36:37,500
deal. 
Wasn't a big deal. 

644
00:36:37,500 --> 00:36:41,900
He wanted they have they gave 
him a lot of reverence and the 

645
00:36:41,900 --> 00:36:44,200
big walk out of the palace was 
great. 

646
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,500
I don't know if you noticed when
he's walking out and there's 

647
00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:50,100
other this giant Plaza, 
expansive, Stone Plaza, that 

648
00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:53,000
he's walking down, he's walking 
in the direct center of it. 

649
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,200
And he makes a point of stepping
off this Center path that he's 

650
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:02,500
on and on to like the regular, 
you know, area and what he's 

651
00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:04,500
doing is stepping off the Kings 
path. 

652
00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:06,800
Yes. 
So I love that. 

653
00:37:06,900 --> 00:37:10,600
Yeah, that was really cool 
symbolic moment for him and I 

654
00:37:10,607 --> 00:37:14,600
don't think a lot of people 
would necessarily know that if 

655
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,200
they hadn't watch a few 
psychics. 

656
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,500
But I found that very powerful 
where he was like, oh, wait, let

657
00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:23,000
me stop. 
And because it was him turning 

658
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,400
into a regular citizen again, 
and then he exits, and he's 

659
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,900
dressed in plain clothes and all
the stuff that's great. 

660
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,500
On his way to the queen. 
This is when it gets bad, he 

661
00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:36,900
attacked he's at Not by a gaggle
of soldiers, who wanted to 

662
00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:41,900
avenge the queen Dowager, and 
it's a mess like the Royal Guard

663
00:37:41,900 --> 00:37:44,600
officer Jang. 
I think is his name. 

664
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:49,900
Yeah, he dies say trying to save
him because that was the way he 

665
00:37:49,900 --> 00:37:52,300
wanted to go as well. 
He's like, I want to die like, 

666
00:37:52,300 --> 00:37:54,400
protecting you. 
I, when I have this honorable 

667
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,100
death and all that shit, he had 
it fine. 

668
00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:58,800
Give it to him. 
I cried over that, though. 

669
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,600
I loved him so much. 
He was great. 

670
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,600
He had a great Arc to because 
You know, initially he's 

671
00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:10,000
throughout the show, he's very 
loyal and very, very stoic, 

672
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,000
which is the blueprint for a 
bodyguard in the Royal Palace, 

673
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:20,800
but he does take orders that he 
ends up, you know, negating or 

674
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,400
going against and he tries to 
kill him at one point like dumps

675
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,300
him in the pit out in the middle
of nowhere and wild and then he 

676
00:38:28,300 --> 00:38:31,500
goes and picks him up and he 
doesn't kill him which is what 

677
00:38:31,700 --> 00:38:35,200
the OG crazy. 
He wanted the doppelganger 

678
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:40,600
wanted and ultimately, he goes 
through, you know speaking to 

679
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,900
him. 
Casually not using honorifics to

680
00:38:43,300 --> 00:38:46,500
using honorifics with him and 
accepting him as the king and 

681
00:38:46,500 --> 00:38:51,000
really showing loyalty fealty to
Hassan, which is beautiful. 

682
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,600
A great Arc for the guy and 
that's why he follows him out of

683
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,500
the palace. 
And it's like, you are you going

684
00:38:56,500 --> 00:38:59,300
to leave me behind? 
And it was very emotional and 

685
00:38:59,300 --> 00:39:01,300
your least. 
He's like there was just like 

686
00:39:01,300 --> 00:39:04,100
looking at each other that 
moment and then these Fucking 

687
00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:06,100
fools. 
Come out of them brush and are 

688
00:39:06,100 --> 00:39:08,500
just like for the queen. 
They order and you're like, for 

689
00:39:08,500 --> 00:39:13,600
what war? 
He, I don't know where so the 

690
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,100
guard dies. 
Yeah, we're all heartbroken 

691
00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:20,500
super obsessed son, gets shot by
two arrows in the back. 

692
00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:25,000
Keels over time. 
Jump two years later. 

693
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,700
I was like, no, they did not do 
this to us when they did the 

694
00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:31,600
time Jump, I knew he was going 
to survive, but it was just 

695
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:37,300
like, really we're going to do 
Even in the time Jump, I thought

696
00:39:37,300 --> 00:39:39,900
that they would not do a so 
dirty that the way they did. 

697
00:39:39,900 --> 00:39:43,200
Because you see the queen 
walking around this Village it 

698
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,400
with a deposed queen or whatever
walking around the village, 

699
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,600
having a good time. 
The clowns are in town and you 

700
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,500
see his sister, and his, you 
know, friend Uncle will however,

701
00:39:53,500 --> 00:39:58,400
whatever you want to call him. 
Also doing the show in the town.

702
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,900
And she's very emotional, gives 
gives away a couple of rings. 

703
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:04,500
She had Jade rings and she's 
like, oh, oh, you reminded me of

704
00:40:04,500 --> 00:40:08,800
my loved one, my beloved. 
And I thought when she went 

705
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,700
home, he would be there or 
something like that. 

706
00:40:12,700 --> 00:40:16,100
She may be looking at his 
Compass, the one that she gave 

707
00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:19,000
him and he would walk in the 
room like something like that. 

708
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:24,200
No, she just kind of, she just 
cries because he is legitimately

709
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,900
missing in action. 
They never found his body, and 

710
00:40:27,900 --> 00:40:30,800
as soon as I said, they never 
found his body, I was like, this

711
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,500
is the dumbest shit that they 
could have pulled. 

712
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,700
In the final 20 foot 15 minutes 
of. 

713
00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:40,200
I wish they had at least explain
better where he was for two 

714
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,600
years because it was kind of, 
like, time passed. 

715
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,600
I was unconscious. 
It made no sense. 

716
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,800
Like what, what is the protocol 
when you find an injured man in 

717
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:54,300
the wild you can't wear, is 
there a hospital or something 

718
00:40:54,300 --> 00:40:56,400
that he's been staying at 42 
years? 

719
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,800
Based on the kdramas. 
I watched you just kind of take 

720
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,100
them in and deal with it and 
don't look for like family. 

721
00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:07,600
I'm not sure who was rendering, 
care to him for two years for 

722
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:12,500
him to just be okay. 
He made it seem like I was 

723
00:41:12,500 --> 00:41:14,500
asleep or something for all this
time. 

724
00:41:14,500 --> 00:41:21,100
Then when I woke up, I was too 
weak to run back to you, which I

725
00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:22,700
thought was funny. 
I was like, is that implying 

726
00:41:22,700 --> 00:41:28,000
that he had physical therapy and
Dynasty so that he can walk his 

727
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,600
way back to his girl. 
It was they try to make it I 

728
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,100
Guess fall in line with what 
they had promised each other 

729
00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:40,400
before, which was he ended up 
taking the long way round, which

730
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,000
was, that was the quote from 
her. 

731
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,800
She was like even if you take 
the long way around, I'll still 

732
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,200
be here for you. 
Yeah. 

733
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:51,000
But they like to they did not. 
He did not need to take the long

734
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,500
way round. 
Okay like these this was done. 

735
00:41:55,500 --> 00:41:58,200
I went through enough over 16 
episodes. 

736
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,500
There was no need for them to 
pull this like dirty trick. 

737
00:42:01,500 --> 00:42:04,500
I thought this was dirty D. 
Yeah, I wasn't a fan. 

738
00:42:04,900 --> 00:42:07,700
It's really what it's like to 
cheer Gap and then he wasn't 

739
00:42:07,700 --> 00:42:11,100
there. 
I was like really, really. 

740
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:15,800
So she said around and just like
Pine for like somebody who she's

741
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,500
had assumed was dead, but was 
never going to be sure because 

742
00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:22,800
there wasn't a body so they're 
like, we found Master. 

743
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,300
We found officer Jang. 
Woo, didn't find him. 

744
00:42:25,300 --> 00:42:28,900
We don't find The King and I was
like, you're shitting me. 

745
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,900
Fuck out of here. 
Eyeless live, it, I was like, oh

746
00:42:31,900 --> 00:42:33,100
my God, they did not. 
Just do the. 

747
00:42:33,100 --> 00:42:37,900
So anyway, the ending points 
taken for the fight, literally, 

748
00:42:37,900 --> 00:42:41,100
the final 20 minutes or so show.
Yeah. 

749
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:46,100
We're on the same page, sir. 
I think that we have to talk 

750
00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:49,500
about the romance, so now that 
we've already like, talk through

751
00:42:49,500 --> 00:42:54,600
the ending of them because they 
do have a technically happy 

752
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,800
ending. 
Yes, the end up together. 

753
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,400
He does like return. 
I wasn't sure if they were going

754
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,300
to, you know what, I feel the 
same way. 

755
00:43:03,300 --> 00:43:08,100
I was kind of like this could 
end badly and it would still be 

756
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:12,300
a fair like a fear thing to do 
because the content of the show 

757
00:43:12,300 --> 00:43:14,000
The Narrative and I was like 
this. 

758
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,800
Has a fair chance of men eating 
badly for both of them. 

759
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:22,800
They just don't end up together 
but luckily they did finally end

760
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,100
up together. 
He took the long way around 

761
00:43:25,100 --> 00:43:29,300
whatever I said before spoiler 
break that I really like the 

762
00:43:29,300 --> 00:43:34,600
purity of the romance. 
There was just such a warmth and

763
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:39,900
kindness and consideration that 
he showed toward her and she 

764
00:43:39,900 --> 00:43:45,900
instantly gravitated towards him
because she was living Like a 

765
00:43:45,900 --> 00:43:50,800
zombie in the palace and she was
not getting any warmth or 

766
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:56,300
kindness or consideration from 
the OG King and some moments 

767
00:43:56,300 --> 00:44:00,500
between them are just a 
wonderful like he she trips over

768
00:44:00,500 --> 00:44:05,800
a stone and tries to play it off
but he notices the pebble that 

769
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,700
he starts kicking them, he 
starts kicking all the rocks and

770
00:44:09,700 --> 00:44:12,600
Pebbles out from the path 
because he's walking out of her.

771
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:18,400
I'll I was like, this is Is 
goals like this is I can see 

772
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,500
that he was written by a woman. 
You know what I'm saying? 

773
00:44:21,900 --> 00:44:24,300
Hmm. 
I'm trying to, I have a really 

774
00:44:24,300 --> 00:44:28,300
funny note. 
I don't have to there. 

775
00:44:28,300 --> 00:44:30,100
He ends up. 
Oh, go ahead. 

776
00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:33,200
Did you find it? 
There's in um, in one of the 

777
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,700
episodes when they're hanging 
out in the library and he's just

778
00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:40,000
staring at her. 
Oh, and it's my nose literally. 

779
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,800
Just I want a boyfriend that 
looks at me the way he's looking

780
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:47,500
at her right now. 
That her so preciously and 

781
00:44:47,500 --> 00:44:51,400
Tenderly and he ends up 
treasuring, her life above his 

782
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,000
own because he ends up taking a 
bullet for her so to speak. 

783
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,000
Yeah, he just reflexively Shield
her from the arrows because the 

784
00:44:58,008 --> 00:45:02,300
queen Dowager again, just trying
to murder them. 

785
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,600
It's ultimately a relationship 
that gets built on trust and 

786
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,800
equity which I found really 
refreshing in a saga of drama 

787
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,900
because usually there is some 
sort of inequality between 

788
00:45:15,100 --> 00:45:17,000
Between the male and female 
leads. 

789
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:23,400
And in this case even though he 
is playing royalty, there's so 

790
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:28,900
much Equity between them like 
she helps him read his reports 

791
00:45:28,900 --> 00:45:32,400
written in Chinese characters. 
I'm just like this is a key to 

792
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:37,400
see there are no barriers 
between them as as there would 

793
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:42,700
be, there should be between them
if he were a true Royal and she 

794
00:45:42,700 --> 00:45:44,300
ends up helping with his kingly 
duties. 

795
00:45:44,300 --> 00:45:47,000
Like that's very The, for the 
queen to be, so involved like 

796
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,700
that, and just be hanging out in
the Kings Library. 

797
00:45:49,700 --> 00:45:52,600
Things like that are just not 
usually done in the sagas. 

798
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:59,600
So it was very special, I think 
for both of them to not only get

799
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:04,300
to know each other, but like get
to know each other on a soul 

800
00:46:04,300 --> 00:46:06,400
level which was really 
refreshing. 

801
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,400
They have start over halfway 
through the show. 

802
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,400
Basically. 
Yes. 

803
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,700
She's like, what is your name? 
Like she had no idea which I 

804
00:46:12,707 --> 00:46:14,900
feel terrible about. 
Yeah. 

805
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,200
Yeah, I think that's where I 
would mentioned earlier. 

806
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,500
I felt really bad for her. 
I think it was everything 

807
00:46:19,500 --> 00:46:22,800
leading up to, like that point 
where I was like, this isn't 

808
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,900
great especially when the, the 
OG can comes back. 

809
00:46:26,500 --> 00:46:28,300
Oh yeah, so let's talk about 
that. 

810
00:46:28,300 --> 00:46:32,000
So they have all these Great 
Moments between them because 

811
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,200
he's the replacement and 
actually a nice hazelnut thing 

812
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,400
where he's that, he's the 
couldn't Queen could make her 

813
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,400
wish at the bridge and so you 
gave her some hazelnuts. 

814
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,800
He collected. 
What should who has hazelnuts in

815
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:45,700
there? 
It's leave. 

816
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:50,500
It was great, like, great moment
of levity and says, oh, there's 

817
00:46:50,500 --> 00:46:53,900
a legend that if you crunch on 
them, you'll start all the 

818
00:46:53,900 --> 00:46:56,800
goblin that lives under the 
bridge, or in your house, who 

819
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,400
would then Grant your wish. 
So that comes into play in 

820
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,600
episode 20 with the terrible 
ending that we don't really 

821
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,400
like. 
But anyway, so the hazelnuts are

822
00:47:04,408 --> 00:47:08,700
great, she holds onto it. 
It's like a token for her and, 

823
00:47:09,300 --> 00:47:13,100
you know, everyone's gravitating
toward Hassan everyone's falling

824
00:47:13,100 --> 00:47:14,900
in love with Hassan, which we 
can talk about later, you see, 

825
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:20,100
I'm to be quite annoyed by that,
you know, the real King comes 

826
00:47:20,100 --> 00:47:24,100
back like an episode 7. 
He's mad as hell. 

827
00:47:24,300 --> 00:47:29,600
Uh, nearly slices everyone up, 
you know, Hassan gets dumped 

828
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,800
into tiger pit up in the 
mountains to die and the real 

829
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:39,700
king is most upset by how the 
queen seems enamored by him how 

830
00:47:39,700 --> 00:47:44,900
her whole demeanor and her 
health has even improved by 

831
00:47:45,100 --> 00:47:48,400
Being near the clown and he 
fought. 

832
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,000
He's like most he's thinking 
back to interacting with the 

833
00:47:51,008 --> 00:47:53,800
queen and queens, like smiling 
lovingly at him. 

834
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,800
Never seen that before. 
And he moves up the consummation

835
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,400
date before the consummation 
date. 

836
00:48:02,100 --> 00:48:05,000
He had already written up his 
decree to Dethrone her and 

837
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,900
behead her before. 
Even attending the consummation,

838
00:48:09,100 --> 00:48:13,700
how fucking vial is that? 
The hall they I was just like, I

839
00:48:13,700 --> 00:48:16,200
hope something happens. 
To stop this conservation 

840
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,500
because I was like, I'm going to
have a major problem with the 

841
00:48:18,500 --> 00:48:22,000
show that goes through. 
I was like, yes, sucks. 

842
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,800
If he was like nice to her, for 
like, five minutes, their whole 

843
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,900
relationship would be different 
like this. 

844
00:48:27,900 --> 00:48:31,000
Let's talk about this because I 
think that I have a different 

845
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:35,000
view of the OG King and his 
relationship with the queen 

846
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:40,200
because she had some good 
memories with him before he took

847
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,200
the throne, right? 
She was saying oh, he held my 

848
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,500
hand. 
Never in comforted me when 

849
00:48:46,500 --> 00:48:51,200
things were kind of crazy in the
whole sphere sphere that they're

850
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,900
in and, you know, he told 
promise me that, you know, we 

851
00:48:54,900 --> 00:48:57,900
would stick together. 
We'd stay together and it just 

852
00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:00,600
kind of like generally nice 
stuff. 

853
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:05,400
We never see a full-on flashback
of him being wonderful to her 

854
00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:07,500
but she does. 
So it does seem like there's 

855
00:49:07,500 --> 00:49:11,300
enough there from when they were
crowned Prince and Crown 

856
00:49:11,300 --> 00:49:14,900
Princess to carry her into this 
really crazy. 

857
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,600
Loveless marriage, when he's 
King. 

858
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:24,000
So I feel really bad for her 
because not only is she stuck in

859
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:29,900
a Loveless marriage but he seems
to not care for her anymore. 

860
00:49:29,900 --> 00:49:32,800
The way that he used to. 
And there's some things that 

861
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,900
made me think maybe he still 
does care for her because early 

862
00:49:36,900 --> 00:49:41,000
on, they show him going to her 
chamber or whatever in a fit of 

863
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,500
rage but he's there and he tries
to like kiss her and she turns 

864
00:49:44,500 --> 00:49:49,400
away Yeah and instead you think 
that a man who's having 

865
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:55,500
hallucinations acting crazy is 
going through crazy episodes of 

866
00:49:55,500 --> 00:49:57,700
mania and rage. 
What? 

867
00:49:57,700 --> 00:50:00,400
Just just rape her, you know 
what I'm saying? 

868
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,500
Like what what does he have to 
lose? 

869
00:50:02,500 --> 00:50:07,900
There's nothing stopping him and
he doesn't go so far as that he 

870
00:50:07,900 --> 00:50:15,100
just kind of like tells her 
people think that It's me that 

871
00:50:15,100 --> 00:50:17,300
doesn't want you, who would 
think that it's the other way 

872
00:50:17,300 --> 00:50:18,800
around. 
Mmm. 

873
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,100
And I found that really 
poignant. 

874
00:50:21,100 --> 00:50:24,300
Like, you know, yeah, he's okay 
with these rumors about her 

875
00:50:24,300 --> 00:50:27,900
because who has the power in 
that relationship, it's really 

876
00:50:27,900 --> 00:50:34,100
her the whole time. 
So no I agree that there's some 

877
00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:37,000
glimmers that he does care for 
her right. 

878
00:50:37,100 --> 00:50:41,000
Like I'll say I he's not 
completely at fault either 

879
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,500
because there's a lot of like 
the the paranoia and in the 

880
00:50:43,500 --> 00:50:47,500
drugs and all that going on that
causes him to be like that. 

881
00:50:47,500 --> 00:50:50,100
Then there's like how long did 
it take for him to like, how 

882
00:50:50,100 --> 00:50:52,500
long was he gone to detox me? 
Still came in as just like the 

883
00:50:52,500 --> 00:50:54,800
most vile person I've ever seen.
Probably lonely. 

884
00:50:56,700 --> 00:51:02,500
Because I was confused too. 
I have No experience now, what 

885
00:51:02,500 --> 00:51:05,200
not only were drugs but with 
opium in particular, but it 

886
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:09,600
seemed like he was smoking. 
Opium completely addicted to 

887
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,900
Opium plus they were throwing on
some incense that was giving him

888
00:51:13,900 --> 00:51:16,000
hallucinations. 
So who know where the hell they 

889
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,800
got that, like, from whatever 
mushroom, they derive that 

890
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:23,800
incense from. 
But I felt extremely confused 

891
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:28,100
when again, he's up in the 
mountains, completely detox 

892
00:51:28,100 --> 00:51:32,200
removed from the The drugs and 
he's still messed up. 

893
00:51:32,700 --> 00:51:34,500
Yeah. 
I like I get the, like, the 

894
00:51:34,500 --> 00:51:36,400
anger and stuff because I think 
at that point, it's kind of 

895
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,600
become just as personality to 
just always be angry. 

896
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,300
But like the, everything else 
that came with it where I was 

897
00:51:41,300 --> 00:51:44,800
like the paranoia, some of that 
shit that used up but like he 

898
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,100
literally just don't trust 
anybody. 

899
00:51:46,100 --> 00:51:48,000
Besides the one, dude. 
You shouldn't trust. 

900
00:51:48,900 --> 00:51:50,600
The left State. 
Chancellor. 

901
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,800
Whatever is nice to lipstick 
chance late. 

902
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,600
Like guys, always a problem, 
never trust that guy. 

903
00:51:57,100 --> 00:52:00,600
Look, if you are watching a 
saga, And the left State. 

904
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,300
Chancellor is a good guy, you're
not watching a saga. 

905
00:52:03,300 --> 00:52:06,400
Look like that's not. 
That's, that's always the guy, 

906
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,000
you gotta watch out for. 
Yeah, but yeah. 

907
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,700
And then it's like he came in 
and like the guns blazing mad 

908
00:52:12,700 --> 00:52:14,300
that they did anything while he 
was gone. 

909
00:52:14,300 --> 00:52:16,900
It was like what what what, what
else? 

910
00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:22,000
Right right, yeah. 
So, it was a lot of a little bit

911
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:26,600
of questioning with his 
condition and how they've framed

912
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,500
it because it seemed like once 
he was got off the drugs, He 

913
00:52:29,500 --> 00:52:33,700
should be okay, but he wasn't 
no, not a still really paranoid 

914
00:52:33,700 --> 00:52:36,000
still having hallucinations 
still seeing his dead little 

915
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,300
brother, like craziness. 
Speaking of the little brother 

916
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,200
that was all the way in episode 
1. 

917
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,700
And I was pretty much 
heartbroken from episode 1 by 

918
00:52:45,700 --> 00:52:51,200
this, this whole sequence that 
they had the Old King does Cameo

919
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,900
by Jang. 
Hyuk, who's the old King 

920
00:52:54,900 --> 00:52:58,600
complex? 
Daddy issues here, and I wasn't 

921
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:04,200
quite sure. or who everybody was
because he had this queen who 

922
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,800
becomes obviously upon his 
death, the queen Dowager, she's 

923
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,900
a major player throughout the 
rest of the Moon, the movie, the

924
00:53:09,900 --> 00:53:16,500
rest of the show, and you had 
this half-brother and I thought 

925
00:53:16,500 --> 00:53:21,000
originally that the king with 
the OG King were just keep 

926
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,500
calling him the OG King. 
But the OG King. 

927
00:53:23,500 --> 00:53:28,600
I thought he was a legitimate 
Heir from the previous Queen, 

928
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,500
not the current Queen who 
becomes the queen Dowager, but 

929
00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:34,400
that wasn't the case he was from
similar concubine. 

930
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:40,300
Or oh, I didn't get that at all.
Yeah, so I have to figure it out

931
00:53:40,300 --> 00:53:43,700
and look up the history. 
So he was not technically a 

932
00:53:43,700 --> 00:53:45,400
legitimate heir. 
Because he came from some other 

933
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:51,900
concubine. 
But once the queen who was a 

934
00:53:51,900 --> 00:53:57,600
Barren died, his dad married, 
the queen Dowager in the show 

935
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,300
who was significantly younger 
and produced children for him. 

936
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:06,200
So that's why he was threatened 
by that little half-brother at 

937
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,100
the beginning of the show 
because everyone considered him 

938
00:54:09,300 --> 00:54:11,900
a legitimate Heir. 
And of course, You know, you 

939
00:54:11,900 --> 00:54:13,900
have to think of the political 
aspect of it. 

940
00:54:13,900 --> 00:54:16,500
It's a child, so you can do 
whatever you want. 

941
00:54:16,500 --> 00:54:21,500
Like raise the child Harvey, 
white rule in the child's dead. 

942
00:54:21,500 --> 00:54:26,200
So everybody who wanted 
something was gunning for the 

943
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:31,200
half-brother to be enthroned and
that just didn't happen. 

944
00:54:31,700 --> 00:54:34,000
No. 
Yeah, sad. 

945
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,000
That upset me. 
That upset me a lot did upset me

946
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:42,500
when He makes his dad beg to 
spare the sun like the 

947
00:54:42,500 --> 00:54:48,200
half-brother. 
And you see this complex like 

948
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,800
emotions running across the 
space because you see when he's 

949
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,800
telling his Bat his dad that's 
not how you ask for a favor on 

950
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:58,800
his deathbed and the dad like 
gets up and it's like I can't 

951
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,200
believe and it starts like, you 
know, giving a half-ass a 

952
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:06,700
begging. 
That was the King dies. 

953
00:55:06,700 --> 00:55:10,800
He's sad. 
So there was anger before and 

954
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:15,900
then once the king finally dies,
he's upset and visibly, you 

955
00:55:15,900 --> 00:55:18,100
know, shaken by the King's 
death. 

956
00:55:18,100 --> 00:55:21,300
So they're very complex daddy 
issues happening here which we 

957
00:55:21,300 --> 00:55:24,000
never quite get into. 
We just don't, there's not 

958
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,700
enough time for it. 
I guess and there's a massive 

959
00:55:26,700 --> 00:55:30,200
house cleaning upheaval Chief, 
counselor declares people 

960
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:34,100
Traders, whatever the little 
brothers arrested exiled. 

961
00:55:34,100 --> 00:55:39,600
And then finally, poisoned. 
I just so emotional and sad 

962
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,600
because he's so young. 
That little brother is a child 

963
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,800
completely innocent. 
He loves his brother, he loves 

964
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,500
his brother. 
That's the thing. 

965
00:55:48,500 --> 00:55:53,900
It's like he loves the OG King, 
like with unconditionally, 

966
00:55:53,900 --> 00:55:57,200
there's nothing. 
He doesn't know what's going on.

967
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:02,400
And you just feel so much for 
the kid cuz he's getting dragged

968
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,500
away from his mom. 
He doesn't know why they're 

969
00:56:04,700 --> 00:56:06,400
locking up in jail. 
Why? 

970
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,900
Doesn't know. 
And when he shows up when the 

971
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,700
oig king finally shows up, he 
runs that the kid runs out and 

972
00:56:12,700 --> 00:56:16,300
he's like what took you so long 
like but just very pitiful. 

973
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,900
Yeah. 
And that hurt it her and it was 

974
00:56:19,900 --> 00:56:25,200
unclear as well. 
If the OG King believed, the 

975
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:30,300
lies that they told about the 
little kid or he just accepted 

976
00:56:30,300 --> 00:56:34,200
them because he wanted to kill 
his own brother out of hate or 

977
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:35,700
spite. 
I don't know. 

978
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,200
Yeah, it's very Clear, there's a
lot that happened in that first 

979
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,100
episode, a lot of murder and 
that was like, I don't know who 

980
00:56:42,100 --> 00:56:44,100
any of these people are. 
I'm not sure who I'm supposed to

981
00:56:44,107 --> 00:56:50,200
care about and I was like, and 
all I see it's just this one 

982
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:54,100
dude killing everybody. 
Yeah, my little, my only note 

983
00:56:54,100 --> 00:56:56,600
for the first episode is 
literally the king and clown or 

984
00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:01,600
both annoying. 
Oh, I didn't go so far as to say

985
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:06,400
that if I have to hear, are you 
not afraid of the heavens one? 

986
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,900
More time. 
I think I'll just flip a table 

987
00:57:09,900 --> 00:57:12,600
because they said that's so much
throughout the show and 

988
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,400
especially in the first episode 
because that was when a lot of 

989
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:20,000
Carnage and stuff was happening.
But I do like how in the first 

990
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:24,000
episode they introduced, of 
course, Hassan and they have 

991
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:28,100
this big juxtaposition between 
the two of them, where Hassan is

992
00:57:28,100 --> 00:57:32,600
just, so good-natured and kind, 
and fun, and charismatic. 

993
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:37,000
And, of course, episode ends 
with the meeting of the Angers 

994
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:41,400
and you have this great sequence
of the king, just like get it OG

995
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,700
King getting up and like going 
to stand, close to him with the 

996
00:57:44,700 --> 00:57:47,300
light. 
I like the lamp in his face. 

997
00:57:47,300 --> 00:57:52,800
They're both shocked. 
And they the way that y'all 

998
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:57,700
jingu is standing between the 
two of them, like it's vastly 

999
00:57:57,700 --> 00:57:59,800
different. 
It is a very physical 

1000
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:04,200
performance that I feel he's 
putting on and the demeanor 

1001
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:08,300
everything about like the micro 
You know, facial changes that 

1002
00:58:08,300 --> 00:58:09,900
he's making between the two of 
them. 

1003
00:58:09,900 --> 00:58:12,900
It is a completely different 
character that he's putting on 

1004
00:58:13,300 --> 00:58:18,400
between the OG King and Hassan. 
And I love how the OG King is 

1005
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,900
like, repeat after me like say 
this you fool, can't you play 

1006
00:58:21,900 --> 00:58:27,000
your role properly and he ends 
up saying the same exact line is

1007
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,500
the king. 
He wants him to pretend to be 

1008
00:58:29,500 --> 00:58:33,700
him for a second and he says the
lie like you fool, can't you 

1009
00:58:33,700 --> 00:58:38,100
play a role properly and even It
is the same because it's your 

1010
00:58:38,100 --> 00:58:42,200
jingu like saying the same line.
It is still. 

1011
00:58:43,900 --> 00:58:46,200
A different performance. 
You know what I'm saying? 

1012
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,400
Yeah, no. 
That was, even though I didn't 

1013
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,900
necessarily like, either 
characters seojun, go just did 

1014
00:58:50,900 --> 00:58:53,300
such an amazing job of 
establishing that they are 

1015
00:58:53,300 --> 00:58:57,700
different people and there's a, 
there's a lot of movies, like, 

1016
00:58:57,700 --> 00:59:00,200
you mentioned, like, The Parent 
Trap earlier, like where it's 

1017
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,500
very clearly. 
The same person just just 

1018
00:59:02,500 --> 00:59:05,800
they're playing the same person 
twice more or less, right? 

1019
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,600
But no, he does such a good job 
of. 

1020
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,500
It doesn't like you could have 
told me that you didn't go has 

1021
00:59:10,500 --> 00:59:12,500
like a twin and they were just 
both there and like I'd have 

1022
00:59:12,500 --> 00:59:14,100
been like that makes. 
Right. 

1023
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:15,600
Okay. 
If I didn't know anything, I'd 

1024
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,200
be like know. 
That makes a lot of people. 

1025
00:59:17,500 --> 00:59:21,900
A lot of people thought Lindsay 
Lohan, had a twin Yeah, it's the

1026
00:59:21,900 --> 00:59:25,800
same kind of deal here. 
I feel like he just knocked it 

1027
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,000
out of the park. 
He did. 

1028
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,300
It was like, even just watching 
like the the two characters, 

1029
00:59:30,300 --> 00:59:33,800
like walk like the king had like
the Swagger all the time, it was

1030
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,600
really funny. 
I was like I wouldn't expect him

1031
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,400
to and like because he's a king 
but men like because of his 

1032
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,800
personality kind of makes sense.
He has more of like a Swagger 

1033
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:46,200
when he walks whereas Hassan was
actually more like up, right? 

1034
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,500
And proper and I think it's 
because he's more unsure of 

1035
00:59:48,500 --> 00:59:51,300
himself most of the time. 
So he's like I have to like Be 

1036
00:59:51,300 --> 00:59:54,500
this and I'm like if you had 
like five seconds to watch the 

1037
00:59:54,500 --> 01:00:00,000
king walk around like no. 
Yeah but yeah, it was absolutely

1038
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,800
riveting to see the two vastly 
different performances and I 

1039
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:10,100
think that people don't talk 
about this a lot. 

1040
01:00:10,100 --> 01:00:12,500
Like I don't hear people talking
about guilty and go in the 

1041
01:00:12,500 --> 01:00:15,400
clowns and the crown clown. 
No, I remember. 

1042
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,200
It was really popular when it 
was airing and then like no one.

1043
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,500
Nothing. 
Yeah. 

1044
01:00:20,500 --> 01:00:22,900
Like where's the give the man 
his due? 

1045
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,900
He's amazing. 
I wonder though if that's 

1046
01:00:24,900 --> 01:00:28,300
because like early. 
So, this is 2019 right early. 

1047
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:32,300
Yeah. 
Early. 2019 was because Hotel De

1048
01:00:32,300 --> 01:00:34,500
Luna came out immediately after 
and Absolute Boyfriend. 

1049
01:00:34,500 --> 01:00:36,000
I think was airing at the same 
time. 

1050
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:40,500
So it was like so much back to 
Act like everyone jumped from 

1051
01:00:40,500 --> 01:00:42,300
the crown clown to like hotel de
luna. 

1052
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,500
I think so that might because he
did a really good job in that 

1053
01:00:45,500 --> 01:00:50,400
too, in my opinion. 
I so I dropped hotel de luna, 

1054
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,900
all, really? 
I it's one of my favorites. 

1055
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,300
Like, I actually scary watching 
it before before. 

1056
01:00:57,900 --> 01:01:01,600
So it's, this is a total 
tangent, but I stopped watching 

1057
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,500
hotel de luna because they were 
trying to make. 

1058
01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:09,200
I you like this really fabulous 
villain, And I was like, I don't

1059
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,300
see I you as a Villain Like 
period, she's not threatening in

1060
01:01:12,300 --> 01:01:14,800
any manner. 
So she's so she's not a villain 

1061
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,400
in the show. 
No, I understand. 

1062
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,800
I get that from the promo and 
everything and the tiny Clips 

1063
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,900
I've seen on social media. 
She's not the villain but she is

1064
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:29,200
kind of an antihero kind of dude
and like it just wasn't working 

1065
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,500
for me. 
I was like, she's a fairy, you 

1066
01:01:32,500 --> 01:01:34,700
know. 
No saying, knowing I, you know 

1067
01:01:34,700 --> 01:01:37,000
that that makes sense. 
I think going in being like, I 

1068
01:01:37,008 --> 01:01:39,200
have no, like, I went in because
Him not her. 

1069
01:01:40,300 --> 01:01:42,600
I was like, I'm gonna watch this
one because it's fantasy too 

1070
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,400
because, you know, Jin goo. 
So yeah. 

1071
01:01:45,500 --> 01:01:48,600
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1072
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,300
I feel you. 
And it's a well like drama. 

1073
01:01:51,300 --> 01:01:53,000
I'm just um, one of those 
people. 

1074
01:01:53,300 --> 01:01:55,300
Anyway. 
Um, getting back to the ground 

1075
01:01:55,300 --> 01:01:58,300
clown. 
They kill off this poor little 

1076
01:01:58,300 --> 01:02:00,100
Palace. 
Maid and like episode two 

1077
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:06,800
brutal, she get poisoned and I 
like how the queen is the only 

1078
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:10,400
person who can be Near him. 
And she gently cleans his hands 

1079
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,500
off because he still has all 
this blood on his hands and 

1080
01:02:13,700 --> 01:02:18,700
she's got such a calming effect 
on, not just him but on the 

1081
01:02:18,700 --> 01:02:20,600
audience, I feel. 
Because as soon as she enters 

1082
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:25,100
the frame I'm like I'm just so 
calm and relaxed right now, like

1083
01:02:25,100 --> 01:02:27,800
she's just very ethereal in that
way. 

1084
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,900
Something that was not ethereal 
at all. 

1085
01:02:31,900 --> 01:02:38,700
Was the heartbreaking episodes, 
like, 435 haasan's little sister

1086
01:02:38,700 --> 01:02:41,600
gets raped. 
Oh my gosh, I the left State 

1087
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,600
councillor, son. 
And I was just devastated. 

1088
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,700
I was devastated. 
Like she goes, mute and 

1089
01:02:46,700 --> 01:02:49,900
everything from the trauma. 
It's just so bad. 

1090
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:55,800
I am glad he got Punished a lot 
for that. 

1091
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,700
I don't. 
So you were okay with it. 

1092
01:02:58,700 --> 01:03:00,700
We're not. 
Okay, but you felt like the 

1093
01:03:00,700 --> 01:03:02,300
punishment fit the crime. 
No. 

1094
01:03:02,300 --> 01:03:08,100
But at least something happened.
Well, he made a fun distinction,

1095
01:03:08,100 --> 01:03:10,500
though, not long after that 
because he gets scared and 

1096
01:03:10,500 --> 01:03:13,100
leaves the palace and it comes 
back after. 

1097
01:03:13,100 --> 01:03:15,000
You know he finds out what 
happened to the sister and 

1098
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:21,500
everything and he's just full of
Rajon wants to avenge her, his 

1099
01:03:21,500 --> 01:03:26,900
sister like rightfully so and he
says I don't want to kill him, I

1100
01:03:26,900 --> 01:03:29,300
don't just want to kill that 
dude. 

1101
01:03:29,300 --> 01:03:34,500
Like I want him to suffer and be
punished for the crime that he 

1102
01:03:34,500 --> 01:03:37,700
committed not just for me to 
kill him for some of the thing 

1103
01:03:38,300 --> 01:03:41,900
or punish him for some other 
misdeed and I found that really 

1104
01:03:41,900 --> 01:03:44,900
interesting like it's almost 
delayed satisfaction. 

1105
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,400
Yes and he waited What I'm 
saying? 

1106
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:53,500
You waited all that time to have
this opportunity on meant to 

1107
01:03:53,500 --> 01:03:56,100
punish him and brand him for 
being a rapist. 

1108
01:03:56,100 --> 01:04:00,400
And he not only did that but he 
established a new precedent. 

1109
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:01,900
He was like, I'm going to change
the law. 

1110
01:04:01,900 --> 01:04:05,100
How about that? 
And I was like damn like that is

1111
01:04:05,300 --> 01:04:07,600
like King King material right 
there. 

1112
01:04:07,700 --> 01:04:10,100
Yeah, it was definitely a boss. 
Move of. 

1113
01:04:10,100 --> 01:04:12,400
We're just going to rewrite the 
law which the law should have 

1114
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:17,000
been rewrote, where the bottom 
tier and the hierarchy, there 

1115
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,300
doesn't. 
Matter what happens to them, 

1116
01:04:19,300 --> 01:04:22,300
like there's punishment for 
everything except them. 

1117
01:04:22,300 --> 01:04:25,600
Like are you kidding, didn't you
just want to like, shoot the guy

1118
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:30,800
when the kid goes He standing in
front of the King, right? 

1119
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,500
He just got accused of rape and 
he did it. 

1120
01:04:33,500 --> 01:04:37,000
He's not denying that he did it,
but he's like, it doesn't 

1121
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:40,400
matter. 
I'm it doesn't matter because 

1122
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:44,800
she's a low-class of kid, like, 
low-class girl, I was just 

1123
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,600
matter. 
So, angry I was like, oh my God,

1124
01:04:49,700 --> 01:04:51,800
I just want to throw hands at 
that point, right? 

1125
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,000
And then they're still like 
human punish you anyway. 

1126
01:04:55,500 --> 01:04:59,700
I feel like he doesn't think of 
her as you know, and the King 

1127
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,000
Hassan is saying like, oh, I'm 
gonna do all this and he's like,

1128
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,200
you can't your highest. 
You can't do that. 

1129
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,400
Like, who the hell do you think 
you are? 

1130
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,100
Like, telling me what I can and 
cannot do. 

1131
01:05:09,500 --> 01:05:12,200
Like, it was just mistake after 
mistake, after mistake with that

1132
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,700
kid. 
You taught. 

1133
01:05:15,700 --> 01:05:18,400
Let's talk about like how the 
side characters and everyone 

1134
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,800
around. 
Hassan fell in love with him 

1135
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,800
because you said earlier that, 
you didn't like that. 

1136
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,500
So talk to me about that. 
Like, what do you, what do you 

1137
01:05:26,500 --> 01:05:31,000
think in there? 
I just I I don't know what it is

1138
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,200
about Hassan, this is really 
rubs me the wrong way, where I'm

1139
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,700
like, what honestly, I feel like
if I was like in his presence to

1140
01:05:36,700 --> 01:05:38,900
like in that I'd have been like 
the same of know this kids great

1141
01:05:38,900 --> 01:05:40,200
like whatever. 
But the same time I'm like, 

1142
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,100
everybody's like, oh we're gonna
pretend you're the king for a 

1143
01:05:43,100 --> 01:05:46,300
while and we're gonna just fall 
in line and you're great and 

1144
01:05:46,300 --> 01:05:48,800
charming, and it's not like he's
an actor. 

1145
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,200
Of course, he's Charming. 
Like like, he's a clown. 

1146
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:57,000
That's that's it sound like I 
hope, I don't know. 

1147
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:58,200
I have trust issues. 
I guess. 

1148
01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:59,200
So I would have been like, I 
don't know. 

1149
01:05:59,300 --> 01:06:04,700
I want to trust this kid. 
And then like he had his moments

1150
01:06:04,700 --> 01:06:06,900
where he was hot-headed to and 
he would go do really stupid 

1151
01:06:06,900 --> 01:06:09,700
stuff that they don't have to go
get fixed or a lot of people 

1152
01:06:09,700 --> 01:06:11,800
were going to die that were 
trying to help him. 

1153
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:16,100
It's like I also feel like he 
was very impulsive. 

1154
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:20,500
Yes, decisive in ways that the 
people around him in the chief 

1155
01:06:20,500 --> 01:06:24,600
secretary more not and sometimes
he it definitely worked outside.

1156
01:06:24,700 --> 01:06:26,500
Yeah. 
Push things forward in a 

1157
01:06:26,508 --> 01:06:30,700
positive way and made good 
decisions, while he was on the 

1158
01:06:30,700 --> 01:06:32,400
throne. 
And what was cool was. 

1159
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,400
Even though he had the chief 
secretary like, breathing down 

1160
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,500
his neck, telling him what to 
say, telling him, you know how 

1161
01:06:38,500 --> 01:06:42,200
to comport himself and, you 
know, memorize this and you 

1162
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:46,300
can't read and all this stuff as
soon as he walks in, and he's 

1163
01:06:46,300 --> 01:06:48,700
sitting on the throne, whatever 
he says goes. 

1164
01:06:48,900 --> 01:06:51,300
Yep. 
So he can go Rogue and he does 

1165
01:06:51,300 --> 01:06:55,900
pretty heated of the time. 
And it was really entertaining 

1166
01:06:55,900 --> 01:06:59,400
to see as an audience member, 
but it was really satisfying to 

1167
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:03,700
see also as an audience member 
because you have Tagging is here

1168
01:07:03,700 --> 01:07:05,600
with an. 
In fact he's an infallible 

1169
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:09,400
protagonist and everyone falls 
in love with him. 

1170
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:13,100
Not just because he's so young 
Jin, goo and handsome and 

1171
01:07:13,100 --> 01:07:16,500
Charming. 
Um, they are moved by him and 

1172
01:07:16,500 --> 01:07:20,300
his impeccable moral compass by 
his righteousness and his caring

1173
01:07:20,300 --> 01:07:24,200
attitude towards the people. 
Because he comes from the 

1174
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:28,900
people, he is of that lower 
class and so he is making giant 

1175
01:07:28,900 --> 01:07:32,600
changes in the government, that 
is benefiting. 

1176
01:07:32,700 --> 01:07:37,300
Being not just the ruling class.
It's benefiting everybody and 

1177
01:07:37,900 --> 01:07:39,800
it's throwing everybody in a 
tizzy. 

1178
01:07:40,300 --> 01:07:43,100
Yeah, I like the the side where 
it's the stuff that like helps 

1179
01:07:43,100 --> 01:07:46,200
the more common people like 
definitely like respect, but 

1180
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:47,200
it'd be like the other things 
were. 

1181
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,500
He just go have like a ranting 
like have a fit with like the 

1182
01:07:49,500 --> 01:07:52,900
queen Dowager because she likes 
lighted the queen or something. 

1183
01:07:52,900 --> 01:07:56,200
I was like, okay, I get it but 
I'm like I'll give you the right

1184
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,300
move dude. 
You that? 

1185
01:07:58,300 --> 01:08:00,400
Yes, he's kind of going 
head-to-head with the queen 

1186
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,600
Dowager and there's a lot of 
tete-a-tete. 

1187
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,700
It's between them where you're 
just like you don't really have 

1188
01:08:05,700 --> 01:08:06,900
the upper hand here. 
Yeah. 

1189
01:08:06,900 --> 01:08:08,900
So why are you dig yourself a 
deeper hole? 

1190
01:08:08,900 --> 01:08:11,500
Your other people are going to 
have to clean it up or you're 

1191
01:08:11,500 --> 01:08:14,300
gonna get somebody killed that. 
You're trying to not get killed,

1192
01:08:14,500 --> 01:08:16,200
I don't understand where you're 
coming from. 

1193
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:20,500
There is a long laundry list of 
achievements that Hassan did 

1194
01:08:20,500 --> 01:08:22,500
throughout the show and I have 
them here. 

1195
01:08:22,500 --> 01:08:26,700
So here let me know, let me know
if I'm missing any so here go he

1196
01:08:26,700 --> 01:08:30,399
saves the Queen's father from an
unjust execution. 

1197
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:35,800
So instead he exiled Him he 
saves the queen from analyzing 

1198
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,899
herself because at one point she
like took a dagger, she was 

1199
01:08:38,899 --> 01:08:43,300
going to stab herself because 
the whole thing he saves her, he

1200
01:08:43,300 --> 01:08:47,399
recruits the lowborn Huggle, 
who's like the mathematician 

1201
01:08:47,399 --> 01:08:52,500
like I love Rehan character. 
He also has like crush on Hassan

1202
01:08:52,500 --> 01:08:58,300
by the end of it was adorable, 
loved it on that vein. 

1203
01:08:58,300 --> 01:09:01,600
He literally steps all over the 
aristocratic some kumquats 

1204
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:05,100
Scholars for A horse whole girls
promotion because they weren't 

1205
01:09:05,100 --> 01:09:09,300
even letting him in the palace, 
like, makes no sense but he 

1206
01:09:09,300 --> 01:09:12,000
holds special stating exams were
anybody? 

1207
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:16,200
No matter their station. 
Could sit for the tax reform 

1208
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:17,899
thing. 
We're only land owners will have

1209
01:09:17,899 --> 01:09:23,700
to pay taxes, refuses to send 
tens of thousands of soldiers to

1210
01:09:23,700 --> 01:09:27,700
Ming for their war. 
And he has these lines that are 

1211
01:09:27,700 --> 01:09:30,800
really wonderful. 
He's like as a father of this 

1212
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:34,800
nation, how could I send? 
They're my sons to their death. 

1213
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:40,399
That also like he takes 
ownership of the people and he 

1214
01:09:40,399 --> 01:09:44,700
really advocates for them. 
And at that point he tears all 

1215
01:09:44,700 --> 01:09:47,300
the ministers to personally go 
to war for me. 

1216
01:09:47,500 --> 01:09:49,800
If it's so important to them 
like why don't you just pick up 

1217
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:55,800
and go and I'm like it's great 
he refuses to depose the queen 

1218
01:09:56,200 --> 01:10:00,500
because she has a little hissy 
after finding out that he's not 

1219
01:10:00,500 --> 01:10:05,200
the king and like just Leaves 
the palace to go visit her dad 

1220
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:10,000
and Exile. 
And that was frustrating because

1221
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:11,900
it was not on his end, but on 
hers. 

1222
01:10:11,900 --> 01:10:14,100
Because, like, I get why she 
left and then, like, you gotta, 

1223
01:10:14,100 --> 01:10:17,300
like, save her basically, but he
couldn't say why he wasn't mad 

1224
01:10:17,300 --> 01:10:20,200
at her. 
It was like, like, yeah, 

1225
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:24,800
situationally aggravating true. 
He's like, he's not like, well, 

1226
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:29,000
I'm not really who I said I was.
So, she got mad and just like, 

1227
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:30,900
jump shit. 
No, he can't say that. 

1228
01:10:30,900 --> 01:10:32,500
What he does is he blackmails 
the queen? 

1229
01:10:32,700 --> 01:10:34,700
Dowager's, so that she could 
return. 

1230
01:10:34,700 --> 01:10:41,200
No consequences, great idea. 
He refused to Simply kill the 

1231
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:44,400
left State Chancellor's sun, 
which we talked about before he 

1232
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,900
waits until he can be punished 
for the crime that he committed 

1233
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:50,900
and sets a new precedent. 
All this great stuff. 

1234
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:55,300
Then he at in the final, couple 
of vessels crushes, the coup 

1235
01:10:55,300 --> 01:10:58,400
from the giant villain team-up 
that I didn't because I was 

1236
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:02,100
Queen, Dowager joins hands with 
the left state councillor. 

1237
01:11:02,700 --> 01:11:07,700
And one of the princes Prince, 
Jim peeing, or whatever was also

1238
01:11:07,700 --> 01:11:10,500
in the mix and like, had 
develops the army of, like, 

1239
01:11:10,500 --> 01:11:12,300
3,000 soldiers. 
It's like nuts. 

1240
01:11:12,300 --> 01:11:17,200
So, all these three people join 
hands and were trying to 

1241
01:11:17,300 --> 01:11:19,300
Dethrone him. 
That was so messy too, because 

1242
01:11:19,300 --> 01:11:21,200
they were all like plotting 
against each other. 

1243
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,600
The same time. 
Nobody was like on their side. 

1244
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:29,900
Like nobody was truly. 
Loyal to the other person. 

1245
01:11:29,900 --> 01:11:33,700
So there was a lot of like in 
squabbles between them and stuff

1246
01:11:33,700 --> 01:11:39,300
which is fun like fun to watch. 
There's so much stuff, good 

1247
01:11:39,300 --> 01:11:43,300
stuff that he did and he also 
stopped the queen from analyzing

1248
01:11:43,300 --> 01:11:46,200
herself a second time. 
This. 

1249
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,300
Oh my God. 
That's right. 

1250
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,400
The second time. 
And then he saves her. 

1251
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,500
Like I said before, you took to 
two arrows in the back or 

1252
01:11:54,508 --> 01:11:55,900
something, one are on the back 
for her. 

1253
01:11:56,600 --> 01:12:01,600
Yeah, this is great. 
I really liked speaking of the 

1254
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:06,500
queen in episodes 6 to 7 or so 
they go. 

1255
01:12:06,700 --> 01:12:10,000
A date out in the town. 
That was so cute. 

1256
01:12:10,100 --> 01:12:15,500
Is fucking wonderful. 
So they eat like a stew with 

1257
01:12:15,500 --> 01:12:20,000
tripe and pig's heart and it's 
kind of like low, not low 

1258
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:24,100
quality cuts of meat, but it's 
just like common, a commoners 

1259
01:12:24,100 --> 01:12:27,800
meal and it's so sweet. 
How she eats it like a champ. 

1260
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,600
He's like, what is this? 
And then he tells her what it 

1261
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:31,600
is. 
She kind of makes a face and 

1262
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:33,800
then she just he's like, well we
don't have to eat her if you 

1263
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,200
don't want to, she's just like 
already swallowing asleep. 

1264
01:12:36,900 --> 01:12:39,500
Great. 
And then she'd noticed that 

1265
01:12:39,500 --> 01:12:41,800
this, at this point, she's like 
noticing different things about 

1266
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:43,400
him. 
And she's like, it seems like 

1267
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,900
you've eaten this before and 
he's like, no, no, no. 

1268
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,600
I have I haven't done anything 
yet. 

1269
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:53,800
They go to buy the compass later
and he haggles with the sales 

1270
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:57,000
guy and she's like, it seems 
like you've done this a hundred 

1271
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,400
times before it. 
He's like, I've never done that 

1272
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:00,600
before. 
It's great. 

1273
01:13:01,500 --> 01:13:04,000
I really liked when he asked her
when they were eating and he 

1274
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,200
asked her, the question of like,
which house would they want to 

1275
01:13:06,208 --> 01:13:08,700
stay? 
And she's like this one and he's

1276
01:13:08,700 --> 01:13:10,300
like, that's the smallest one 
here. 

1277
01:13:10,300 --> 01:13:13,700
She's like, why exactly? 
Like so? 

1278
01:13:13,700 --> 01:13:16,100
I, we don't have to do anything 
besides turn our heads to see 

1279
01:13:16,100 --> 01:13:18,900
each other and I was like, oh, I
want this kind of love. 

1280
01:13:18,900 --> 01:13:22,500
This is why I'm single. 
This is what a standard, such a 

1281
01:13:22,500 --> 01:13:27,700
good green flag, man, and such a
wonderful well-spoken lady 

1282
01:13:27,700 --> 01:13:30,800
because she's just like, want 
that house over there small 

1283
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,100
house while you want it. 
We just have to turn our heads 

1284
01:13:34,100 --> 01:13:37,800
to look at each other and it's 
so sad because in the X of the 

1285
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,900
palace. 
They have entirely separate 

1286
01:13:40,900 --> 01:13:43,900
wings, that are far from one 
another. 

1287
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:48,900
And so she's speaking from 
experience, she would rather be 

1288
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:53,300
close to him and she would 
rather have this long commute 

1289
01:13:53,300 --> 01:13:56,100
home to be with him for longer 
periods. 

1290
01:13:56,100 --> 01:14:01,400
Of time is just like, uh, 
beautiful beautiful words and I 

1291
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:05,600
adore the queen and that date 
that they had was just 

1292
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:09,000
beautiful. 
I think in that episode though, 

1293
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:16,200
he gets tossed in the pit, I 
think it's the tiger pit comes 

1294
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,000
back. 
Can comes back. 

1295
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,300
He gets tossed. 
In the tiger pit. 

1296
01:14:19,500 --> 01:14:22,600
Did you get like Dark Knight 
Rises Vibes or was that just me?

1297
01:14:24,900 --> 01:14:27,300
Is it just me? 
It's been a while because he 

1298
01:14:27,300 --> 01:14:32,000
knows, okay, okay, so Dark 
Knight Rises, they throw Batman 

1299
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:33,900
in a pit. 
Basically, I don't remember that

1300
01:14:33,900 --> 01:14:36,400
at all. 
And he has to cut, not adapt it,

1301
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:41,500
but it's like almost looks like 
a giant well, and it's full of, 

1302
01:14:41,500 --> 01:14:42,900
you know, a bunch of other 
prisoners. 

1303
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:47,200
And the only way to get out is 
to climb out and that's why I'm 

1304
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,300
saying that this seeing kind of 
felt like Dark Knight Rises, 

1305
01:14:50,300 --> 01:14:56,600
because he climbs out of this It
and bit by bit. 

1306
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,300
He's almost out. 
There's a flashback of him, 

1307
01:14:59,300 --> 01:15:02,700
getting stabbed by the chief 
secretary and the chief 

1308
01:15:02,700 --> 01:15:05,300
secretary going, like, clown. 
Hassan is dead. 

1309
01:15:05,300 --> 01:15:08,700
You are now the king, like 
furniture, mattock, and just as 

1310
01:15:08,700 --> 01:15:12,400
he's about to, essentially, get 
out and be reborn. 

1311
01:15:13,300 --> 01:15:17,400
These wolves descend and pushing
back down into the pit and I 

1312
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,000
felt like, oh, this is like a 
metaphor. 

1313
01:15:19,100 --> 01:15:22,500
This is my thinking cap, right? 
This is like a metaphor for like

1314
01:15:22,500 --> 01:15:24,200
the beasts of the political 
thing. 

1315
01:15:24,500 --> 01:15:27,400
But he's trying to overcome and 
they keep like tearing him down 

1316
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:28,900
and all this stuff. 
Yeah. 

1317
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:33,100
I quite like that seen and felt 
very important felt so bad. 

1318
01:15:33,100 --> 01:15:35,400
When he fell back down after 
like the wolves or whatever, 

1319
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:38,100
showed up, I was just like, oh 
oh, oh he's in so much pain 

1320
01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:41,200
already. 
Yeah, no. 

1321
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,500
Yeah. 
But the king comes back and that

1322
01:15:45,500 --> 01:15:52,400
episode is crap because he tries
to undo everything that Hassan 

1323
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:56,900
did even if it was good. 
Out of spite or jealousy or so 

1324
01:15:56,900 --> 01:16:02,500
frustrating reassert himself 
into the mix and he imprisons 

1325
01:16:02,500 --> 01:16:06,900
the kissing lady and the Rain 
Man guy. 

1326
01:16:06,900 --> 01:16:12,400
All song, whatever his name is 
and the chief secretary has no 

1327
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:16,000
choice but to come back and 
kneel before him and what the 

1328
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:21,300
king says is. 
So just diabolical, he says, do 

1329
01:16:21,300 --> 01:16:23,200
not turn your back against me 
ever again. 

1330
01:16:23,700 --> 01:16:26,900
Should you be Tre me, I will 
crush all of your loved ones to 

1331
01:16:26,900 --> 01:16:32,400
death and see everything, your 
everything in your life. 

1332
01:16:32,700 --> 01:16:35,300
Everything you've worked for in 
your life, come to nothingness. 

1333
01:16:35,300 --> 01:16:38,000
And I was like, he said it with 
a smile on his face and I was 

1334
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:43,900
like, Damn yeah, that is pretty 
bad, pretty Sinister. 

1335
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:48,100
Yeah, he's just not a not a good
guy all around let's put it. 

1336
01:16:48,100 --> 01:16:50,600
Let's finish talking about him 
because in the very next episode

1337
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:55,400
episode 8, the chief secretary 
kills him honestly, as much as I

1338
01:16:55,407 --> 01:16:58,700
didn't like him that like death 
scene got to me. 

1339
01:16:58,700 --> 01:17:02,500
I cry. 
I was like, it is the emotion 

1340
01:17:02,500 --> 01:17:06,400
that the Betrayal, like, the 
whole, like death, like speech. 

1341
01:17:06,500 --> 01:17:10,500
Oh, like him, like fighting it. 
And I Like talking about how 

1342
01:17:10,500 --> 01:17:15,500
betrayed he feels and I'm like, 
yeah my heart. 

1343
01:17:15,500 --> 01:17:22,900
Why do I feel bad for you? 
Yeah yeah you feel satisfaction 

1344
01:17:22,900 --> 01:17:27,600
that he's dying because he's 
just gone gone, completely mad 

1345
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:32,100
and you feel so much pity at the
same time because his life could

1346
01:17:32,100 --> 01:17:34,600
have been different. 
I was just saying like earlier 

1347
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:38,300
like he seemed to have been 
gentle and somewhat carrying 

1348
01:17:38,300 --> 01:17:40,300
toward the queen. 
Early in their marriage. 

1349
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:46,000
And he also did want to enact 
the tax, the landowners law 

1350
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:49,700
initially. 
And that just goes to show that 

1351
01:17:49,700 --> 01:17:53,000
he was so twisted and different.
By the end, there was just no 

1352
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:56,800
saving him and the scene is so 
devastatingly beautiful. 

1353
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,800
The way it's shot like 
throughout the show is just 

1354
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:04,700
beautiful cinematography but 
this scene what them silhouetted

1355
01:18:04,700 --> 01:18:08,800
against the beach and the waves 
and the overhead shots of them 

1356
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,100
like from Drone or helicopter or
something? 

1357
01:18:12,300 --> 01:18:15,000
Golden Light is just the right 
Vibe. 

1358
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:19,700
It's just heartbreaking and that
he died the same way that he 

1359
01:18:19,700 --> 01:18:22,000
killed. 
His little brother in episode 1.

1360
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:27,700
It's just so, so sad and chief 
secretary is pulling through an 

1361
01:18:27,700 --> 01:18:32,500
all-time performance here 
because it's almost as if the 

1362
01:18:32,500 --> 01:18:35,300
king had asked to be killed. 
Mmm. 

1363
01:18:35,700 --> 01:18:38,900
And he's doing it against his 
better judgment, right? 

1364
01:18:39,900 --> 01:18:44,200
He's doing it because he wanted 
to die and that's not the case 

1365
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:45,700
at all. 
Chief secretary like took it 

1366
01:18:45,700 --> 01:18:49,400
upon himself to just kill the 
king halfway through the show 

1367
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:54,700
and it's so sad and mournful, 
and especially when the OG King 

1368
01:18:54,700 --> 01:18:58,900
says I wish you were my father 
as he's like trying to fight it 

1369
01:18:58,900 --> 01:19:02,400
and talking about like all this.
It just emotional. 

1370
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:04,000
Yeah. 
You could tell they were at one 

1371
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:09,900
point really close. 
So yes, yeah, he's I don't want 

1372
01:19:09,900 --> 01:19:11,600
to do it but he knows that he 
has to do it. 

1373
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:13,400
It's all these things put 
together. 

1374
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:18,300
Just make it very important 
point in seen on a production 

1375
01:19:18,300 --> 01:19:19,500
side. 
Did you catch what they did with

1376
01:19:19,500 --> 01:19:22,600
the score there? 
What did they do with the score 

1377
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:23,500
of the mining? 
Oh my God. 

1378
01:19:23,500 --> 01:19:27,200
Okay, so so as he like die. 
So the way every episode was 

1379
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:30,700
ending at least on Netflix was 
like, the seemed like the 

1380
01:19:30,700 --> 01:19:32,000
episode would. 
And, and then they would have 

1381
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,500
liked the the few like snapshots
of like different parts of the 

1382
01:19:35,500 --> 01:19:37,300
like thing, and they would have 
some score playing. 

1383
01:19:37,300 --> 01:19:38,800
It would be different for most 
episodes. 

1384
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,900
I think to kind of fit the vibe.
There was no music playing at 

1385
01:19:41,900 --> 01:19:45,200
the end of that. 
So as he dies, it's all you hear

1386
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:47,000
is the beach waves. 
And then when they start doing 

1387
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:50,100
the photos from earlier in the 
episode, it's just the beach 

1388
01:19:50,100 --> 01:19:57,700
waves. 
I just I really I'm just really 

1389
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:01,100
oh my God, as far as I remember,
that was the only episode. 

1390
01:20:01,100 --> 01:20:04,100
They didn't have some sort of 
score playing with the photos. 

1391
01:20:05,100 --> 01:20:07,600
It's it's done, right? 
You know what I'm saying? 

1392
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:11,200
Like it was just really well. 
Yeah, it was done really well 

1393
01:20:11,900 --> 01:20:15,700
really well damn. 
Damn. 

1394
01:20:15,700 --> 01:20:19,900
Okay. 
Now going back to Hassan episode

1395
01:20:19,900 --> 01:20:24,300
10 and 9 there's like a lot of 
love vowels exchanged between 

1396
01:20:24,300 --> 01:20:28,200
the queen and Hassan. 
And in episode 10 he does like 

1397
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:31,000
the scavenger hunt for him 
because for her because he 

1398
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:34,500
leaves all these notes in the 
library and I of course you have

1399
01:20:34,500 --> 01:20:37,400
the Like I miss you, even when 
I'm looking at you, I miss you 

1400
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:40,200
line. 
They meet at the highest place 

1401
01:20:40,500 --> 01:20:43,700
in the palace and they kiss and 
it's so sweet and she tells him 

1402
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:45,900
that she wants to have his 
child. 

1403
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:52,600
Listen. 
So it's she tells him that she's

1404
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:55,200
ready to have his child or 
whatever because she had been of

1405
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,800
course, denying him the entire 
time. 

1406
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:03,800
She doesn't know yet that it's 
Hassan the clown it ends up that

1407
01:21:03,900 --> 01:21:06,100
the queen dowager. has been 
poisoning the queen this whole 

1408
01:21:06,100 --> 01:21:12,500
time for like a few months and 
she's now infertile Heartbroken 

1409
01:21:12,500 --> 01:21:15,900
for her because that is like 
such a core part of what she's 

1410
01:21:15,900 --> 01:21:21,000
obligated to do as Queen. 
But like it's part of any of ya.

1411
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:25,200
Any other king would have had to
Dethrone her, pretty much family

1412
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:28,400
to go have it and he's like, no,
it's like that's like this 

1413
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:29,600
matter to me. 
It's fine. 

1414
01:21:29,700 --> 01:21:31,000
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1415
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,800
And in fact, he goes out of his 
way to keep his secret so that 

1416
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:36,600
the court doesn't demand that 
she be dethroned because she 

1417
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:40,500
can't have any kids. 
I found this devastating Being 

1418
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:45,100
in the best way possible, if you
get my drift because it was 

1419
01:21:45,100 --> 01:21:49,400
proper drama and properly teased
throughout the show so that when

1420
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:53,000
it came upon us, we weren't 
like, oh my God, this came out 

1421
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:54,700
of nowhere. 
They're just pulling stuff out 

1422
01:21:54,700 --> 01:21:58,000
of their hats. 
No, no it was, this was earned 

1423
01:21:58,700 --> 01:22:02,900
and I really appreciated that 
not only did he stick by her but

1424
01:22:02,900 --> 01:22:06,200
he, it wasn't like a factor for 
him. 

1425
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:09,100
Like he it didn't affect his 
love for her at all. 

1426
01:22:09,300 --> 01:22:13,900
It's just It makes me feel 
better and their communication 

1427
01:22:13,900 --> 01:22:17,000
was excellent like throughout 
the rest of the the show. 

1428
01:22:17,100 --> 01:22:23,400
And you know, she is dealing 
with not just a loss but it's a 

1429
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:26,500
loss for, you know, her 
identity. 

1430
01:22:26,500 --> 01:22:30,900
And the reason why she's giving 
even in the palace and I love 

1431
01:22:30,900 --> 01:22:34,600
how he just supports her 
unconditionally he's like, oh my

1432
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,800
god, of course he's upset. 
Of course he wants to kill 

1433
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,400
everybody involved. 
Of course he goes and fights 

1434
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:41,900
with the queen dowager. 
Right after he finds out and 

1435
01:22:41,900 --> 01:22:45,600
it's all, you know, yes, but 
it's never directed at her. 

1436
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,500
Yes. 
You know, it's never know, 

1437
01:22:48,500 --> 01:22:52,600
victim blaming or what have you.
There's nothing of that and it 

1438
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:56,600
just deepens their bond, really?
Yeah, I think that's definitely 

1439
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:58,800
a turning point because she 
tried to keep it secret from him

1440
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,900
too, and that's fine. 
Like her like made was like, no,

1441
01:23:01,900 --> 01:23:05,000
I'm gonna spill it be. 
That's my favorite thing is, 

1442
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,000
when he comes up to the baby's 
like tell me what the hell's 

1443
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:08,700
going on here? 
Why is the queen said? 

1444
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,600
She just drops she goes. 
By right underneath these look, 

1445
01:23:11,608 --> 01:23:14,300
I'm so sorry but I'm sorry, I 
just have to be punished or 

1446
01:23:14,308 --> 01:23:19,300
whatever the languages and 
there's like, not a ton the 

1447
01:23:19,300 --> 01:23:21,600
Queen's, like had the secret for
what? 

1448
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:22,600
Two hours. 
Yeah. 

1449
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,700
What's know, yeah, I liked it a 
lot. 

1450
01:23:27,500 --> 01:23:29,700
I liked it. 
She finds his writing The 

1451
01:23:29,700 --> 01:23:32,700
Secret, Gets Out, because she 
finds the scraps of paper that 

1452
01:23:32,700 --> 01:23:36,600
he's been practicing the Chinese
calligraphy on and it's just 

1453
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:38,700
that's when she leaves the 
palace. 

1454
01:23:38,700 --> 01:23:42,200
She had A really tough reaction 
to him. 

1455
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:45,900
She's like, who the hell are? 
You don't touch me. 

1456
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,000
How dare you? 
And she has this really visceral

1457
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:52,200
reaction II. 
Don't blame her. 

1458
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:55,100
But it's such a hard point 
because I'm like, I'd been like,

1459
01:23:55,100 --> 01:23:58,100
okay, I don't know who this guy 
is, but he's clearly better than

1460
01:23:58,100 --> 01:24:03,300
what I had. 
Yeah, because she starts like 

1461
01:24:03,300 --> 01:24:05,700
trying to piece it together. 
Like, when were they switched? 

1462
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:08,700
Yeah. 
And she does realize when the 

1463
01:24:08,700 --> 01:24:11,100
real king king. 
Came back and they had those 

1464
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:15,100
really bad like consummation 
night that never happened and 

1465
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:19,800
she's like, oh, that wasn't him,
you know, she's realizing when. 

1466
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:23,000
Yeah I got I was in. 
I feel like I personally 

1467
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:27,200
probably would have like, maybe 
not in the best judgment just 

1468
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:29,000
been. 
Like, no, I'm fine with this. 

1469
01:24:32,900 --> 01:24:35,500
Nearly getting raped guy, who 
actually treats me. 

1470
01:24:35,500 --> 01:24:39,200
Nice, you know? 
Like, that's the thing is, like,

1471
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,200
she is. 
And they were saying, the, the 

1472
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:44,800
chief secretary was saying that 
she's gonna dump you as soon as 

1473
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:48,400
she finds out who you are, 
because she is so upright and 

1474
01:24:49,300 --> 01:24:55,800
thermal and she, she does end up
against her tiny against her 

1475
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,300
guilty conscience, and she ends 
up doing like three days of 

1476
01:24:58,308 --> 01:25:01,700
mourning for the, the OG King 
because Of course, she doesn't 

1477
01:25:01,700 --> 01:25:05,500
even like this, like terrible to
her and then she's like fully 

1478
01:25:05,500 --> 01:25:08,200
onboard. 
She's like, okay, you're you're 

1479
01:25:08,500 --> 01:25:11,700
the king, okay? 
I think it fits her character 

1480
01:25:11,700 --> 01:25:14,300
while it just putting myself in 
the position. 

1481
01:25:14,300 --> 01:25:16,000
I definitely would like no, this
is fine. 

1482
01:25:17,500 --> 01:25:20,000
Yeah, like I did then on board 
way sooner. 

1483
01:25:20,300 --> 01:25:22,200
I would not have tried to throw 
myself off a cliff. 

1484
01:25:22,700 --> 01:25:24,300
No. 
Damn, it was something about her

1485
01:25:24,300 --> 01:25:26,000
trying to run alive herself 
after that. 

1486
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:28,900
That was just like oh girl don't
like come on. 

1487
01:25:28,900 --> 01:25:30,400
He's a guy Under full team. 
Yeah. 

1488
01:25:30,500 --> 01:25:35,000
Yeah, he was just lovely to you.
Just accept the man and move on 

1489
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:39,500
the villain left State 
councillor catches Hassan in the

1490
01:25:39,500 --> 01:25:44,700
lie with the dagger around 
episode 12 13 and originally, 

1491
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:46,800
the left state councillor was 
like, oh yeah, you had, you had 

1492
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:49,800
this dagger given to you by the 
Ming and all that stuff. 

1493
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:53,300
Complete lap lie fabrication 
because it was gift from the 

1494
01:25:53,308 --> 01:25:56,900
previous King to commemorate 
him, becoming the Crown Prince 

1495
01:25:56,900 --> 01:26:02,500
whatever I loved. 
That's when he threw the two 

1496
01:26:02,500 --> 01:26:06,400
coins at the yes let's say 
counselor and was like I am that

1497
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:10,200
dog that cost two coins or 
whatever and reveals who's his 

1498
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:14,800
true identity to him and his 
full of like, Vigor and 

1499
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:18,200
confidence and like Swagger and 
you're just like, yeah, like 

1500
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:21,800
damn get it. 
I think I was so concerned with 

1501
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:24,200
what was going to happen next. 
I was I really like super like 

1502
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:25,900
into the moment even though it 
was a really cool moment. 

1503
01:26:25,900 --> 01:26:30,100
But I was like, okay, you got a 
problem, why are you so chill 

1504
01:26:30,100 --> 01:26:31,800
about it? 
It to where you can be like, 

1505
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:35,100
like this because well, I think 
he was just like, well, The Jig 

1506
01:26:35,100 --> 01:26:38,800
Is up like when we gonna do? 
Yeah, let me come into it, like,

1507
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:43,500
with a little bit of a Swagger 
and just own it, you know, own 

1508
01:26:43,500 --> 01:26:45,900
up to it. 
I just, it would have put me 

1509
01:26:45,900 --> 01:26:48,300
straight to panic. 
I'd have been like, oh no, I 

1510
01:26:48,300 --> 01:26:50,800
would have been crying. 
Like, I'm not a person that if 

1511
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:54,300
someone yells at me, or start 
screaming at me for whatever 

1512
01:26:54,300 --> 01:26:57,000
reason. 
I just start crying, babe. 

1513
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:02,100
You caught me in a lie. 
This is the second crying right 

1514
01:27:02,100 --> 01:27:04,900
there. 
Don't tell me the real king 

1515
01:27:04,900 --> 01:27:07,800
tried to so curious. 
You were forced to do this. 

1516
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:13,000
Yeah, I don't think I would have
taken out the two coins from 

1517
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:14,800
them at the man who has my 
secret. 

1518
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:19,600
Anyway, what was brutal as well?
Was that they killed her, dad, 

1519
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:24,400
the Queen's Dad after he was 
finally exonerated so close to 

1520
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,600
like a real reunions and it's 
taken away. 

1521
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:32,400
Oh my god. 
Um, But after that she Grieves, 

1522
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:36,300
it's terrible but he tip but 
Hassan takes her to the beach 

1523
01:27:36,300 --> 01:27:41,100
and like episode 14. 
And I adore this conversation 

1524
01:27:41,100 --> 01:27:43,500
that they have not just the 
cinematography, in the way, it's

1525
01:27:43,500 --> 01:27:47,200
just gorgeous, right? 
She says, I will engrave this 

1526
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:49,500
scenery on my heart so that I 
may come back to it. 

1527
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:51,900
Even after we return to the 
palace. 

1528
01:27:51,900 --> 01:27:55,500
And he says, when spring comes, 
let's go see the flowers and 

1529
01:27:55,500 --> 01:27:57,400
summer. 
We will stand in the rain 

1530
01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:00,000
together and in the fall. 
How about we go Gathering? 

1531
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:05,800
And he's making plans, like, 
that's a year's time, right? 

1532
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:07,100
To get back to the winter 
weather. 

1533
01:28:07,100 --> 01:28:09,800
Now at the beach and she says is
much. 

1534
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:12,100
She's like, it seems like we're 
gonna be together for a while, 

1535
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:17,300
and it's just beautiful 
beautiful lines, very romantic 

1536
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:23,800
and it soothes her, you know. 
And it also kind of hints at the

1537
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:27,700
ending right where they leave 
the palace because in all those 

1538
01:28:27,700 --> 01:28:30,400
scenarios of them standing in 
the rain together, seeing the 

1539
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:33,900
Hours Gathering chestnuts, 
there's not really an 

1540
01:28:33,900 --> 01:28:36,000
implication that there in the 
palace, when they do that, they 

1541
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:39,200
are free and outside of the 
restrictions of the palace. 

1542
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:44,200
And so I think that was a hint 
at the ending, which is there 

1543
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:50,000
free of the palace and all of 
the politicking that we had seen

1544
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:55,100
throughout the entire show. 
So I really like that, that's 

1545
01:28:55,100 --> 01:28:59,200
just so nice. 
I one of the top at things top 

1546
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:04,300
scenes in the show. 
Chief secretary throws it in the

1547
01:29:04,300 --> 01:29:05,900
queen. 
Dowager has faced a he killed 

1548
01:29:05,900 --> 01:29:12,300
her son in very classic like put
salt in an open wound to get a 

1549
01:29:12,300 --> 01:29:17,300
confession out of somebody that 
details of how her poor innocent

1550
01:29:17,300 --> 01:29:22,200
son died and she just loses it. 
And what's sad to me is that the

1551
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:28,200
root, the OG King was so blinded
by paranoia, that he ordered the

1552
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:32,400
killing of this innocent kid, 
but Hassan is the one that has 

1553
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:37,500
to pay the consequences for what
his doppelganger did and I find 

1554
01:29:37,500 --> 01:29:40,800
that really interesting. 
I don't know if there's anything

1555
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,600
else you want to add to that 
because I feel like that's kind 

1556
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:47,200
of like I don't know. 
There's something about that. 

1557
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:49,600
That makes. 
Yeah no I mean I guess I hadn't 

1558
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:52,300
really thought about that too 
much but yeah like when it came 

1559
01:29:52,300 --> 01:29:55,400
to the queen Dowager really her 
Vendetta was against the OG 

1560
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:58,000
queen king. 
So everything she did was 

1561
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:01,100
because of that. 
And how. 

1562
01:30:01,100 --> 01:30:06,300
Yeah, he was at the legitimate 
heir to the throne and and like 

1563
01:30:06,300 --> 01:30:10,500
that was her whole thing. 
So, Honestly her hatred towards 

1564
01:30:10,500 --> 01:30:14,500
his son wasn't really wanted. 
It was weird just because he was

1565
01:30:14,700 --> 01:30:16,100
the wrong place wrong time. 
Hi. 

1566
01:30:17,900 --> 01:30:21,200
Yeah, she and I like we were 
saying before how certain 

1567
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:23,600
characters had Shades of Grey. 
I feel like she has Shades of 

1568
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:28,800
Gray because she has every right
to be upset and angry that her 

1569
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:32,000
son was killed like nevermind 
installing him on the throne. 

1570
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:35,300
He was straight up mert. 
Yeah. 

1571
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:41,100
And for no reason, obviously he 
had no Nothing no traitorous 

1572
01:30:41,100 --> 01:30:43,600
thoughts or anything coming from
like the 10 year old or 

1573
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:46,900
whatever. 
So I found that really 

1574
01:30:46,900 --> 01:30:51,000
intriguing to think that she had
reason she was. 

1575
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:55,100
Well, within reason to try and 
like overthrow Hassan even if he

1576
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:58,700
was the was the kind of like 
wasn't even the real King, it's 

1577
01:30:58,700 --> 01:31:04,100
just like you're representing 
pain to me, you've wronged me 

1578
01:31:04,100 --> 01:31:08,800
the where you are and the chief 
secretary found this really 

1579
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:12,900
Important as well where he 
finally swears fealty to Hassan 

1580
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:19,100
and that he reveals that he held
back, trusting him for fear that

1581
01:31:19,100 --> 01:31:21,900
the throne would corrupt him 
just like the OG King. 

1582
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:28,200
But after everything Hassan 
remains righteous and empathetic

1583
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:33,100
and despite the chief secretary 
revealing that he unilaterally 

1584
01:31:33,100 --> 01:31:36,300
killed the OG King Hassan is 
like. 

1585
01:31:37,300 --> 01:31:39,700
Takes the blame. 
He's like, this is my fault too,

1586
01:31:39,700 --> 01:31:44,400
for because I wanted to be king 
and it obviously means that one 

1587
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:48,600
of us had to go. 
And it's when he says that you 

1588
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:52,000
just see it like the gears 
turning in the chief secretary's

1589
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:55,500
head, and he just kneels down, 
he does. 

1590
01:31:55,500 --> 01:32:00,000
And then him, and then Haase, 
first time, Austin kneels down 

1591
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:02,700
and that whole scene. 
Oh my gosh. 

1592
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:08,100
When Hassan kneels down I'm just
like this is too perfect. 

1593
01:32:08,100 --> 01:32:13,900
Like it's, it was such a moving 
moment of like mutual respect 

1594
01:32:13,900 --> 01:32:17,400
for each other. 
And and finally coming to a real

1595
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:20,400
understanding and Trust on both 
sides because there was a trust 

1596
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:25,200
on either side. 
Yeah that was a I loved it. 

1597
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:28,000
I really liked the secretary, 
I'm not gonna lie. 

1598
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:31,700
It was like I didn't fully 
understand everything with him 

1599
01:32:31,700 --> 01:32:33,600
because I was like the, the one 
guy that died. 

1600
01:32:33,700 --> 01:32:36,500
I'd before the show started that
they kept mentioning and then 

1601
01:32:36,500 --> 01:32:39,000
there was like that whole like 
group of people that they kept 

1602
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:43,400
meeting out in the woods and 
like yeah he was an extremist 

1603
01:32:43,500 --> 01:32:45,400
leader we're inside. 
Yeah. 

1604
01:32:46,500 --> 01:32:49,100
Yeah, yeah and they didn't I 
feel like they didn't do as good

1605
01:32:49,100 --> 01:32:52,000
of a job kind of like dealing 
with that whole subplot. 

1606
01:32:52,900 --> 01:32:54,700
Right? 
Because he was basically 

1607
01:32:54,700 --> 01:32:56,300
undercover. 
Yeah. 

1608
01:32:56,400 --> 01:33:01,300
In the government still trying 
to do his best, which get the 

1609
01:33:01,300 --> 01:33:04,300
agenda, but she was doing, but 
it was like they Really explain,

1610
01:33:04,300 --> 01:33:05,200
like, who these other people 
are. 

1611
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:07,700
Like, obviously like some sort 
of extremist but like, outside 

1612
01:33:07,700 --> 01:33:13,100
of that I was like there's some 
guy who died here's book, like I

1613
01:33:13,100 --> 01:33:15,400
don't know. 
Like are you just common people 

1614
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:19,600
or like exiled or like I did. 
That was one of my issues with 

1615
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:22,700
the show I will say is like that
whole like story arc just kind 

1616
01:33:22,700 --> 01:33:25,300
of came and went as needed 
without excite agree. 

1617
01:33:25,300 --> 01:33:29,400
Anything I agree. 
Yeah they did a bad job 

1618
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:31,800
explaining like why he was 
meeting these people in the 

1619
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:34,700
bamboo forest and Why they were 
mad at him? 

1620
01:33:34,700 --> 01:33:38,800
I guess, he liked because of his
part in the killing of their 

1621
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:40,200
leader. 
Yeah. 

1622
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:44,500
And then, he stayed basically in
power in the government while 

1623
01:33:44,500 --> 01:33:47,400
everyone else had to like, deal 
with it and like become peasants

1624
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:50,200
and try and make ends meet some 
other way and live their lives 

1625
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:53,600
similar way. 
You know, they held it against 

1626
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:54,600
him. 
Yeah. 

1627
01:33:54,700 --> 01:33:57,300
Like it sounded like a pretty 
valid what they did. 

1628
01:33:57,300 --> 01:34:00,300
But no. 
Yeah, but it was like, I wish I 

1629
01:34:00,300 --> 01:34:03,400
had some kind of like, 
Connection to it. 

1630
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:06,900
Or I could care about these 
random people because it would 

1631
01:34:06,900 --> 01:34:09,000
make more sense. 
Why he's like, kneeling on the 

1632
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:10,600
ground trying to ask for 
forgiveness. 

1633
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:13,600
Okay. 
And I was like we can we can 

1634
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:17,700
skip the sea. 
Yeah I mean it just wasn't 

1635
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:22,200
written quite well. 
I think we're all ready towards 

1636
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:25,500
the end game episodes though, in
our, in our talk and I'm not 

1637
01:34:25,500 --> 01:34:27,500
sure if there's anything else 
you wanted to say about it. 

1638
01:34:27,500 --> 01:34:31,500
Other than this part was 
satisfying to me, I had no 

1639
01:34:31,500 --> 01:34:35,400
issues with Now the whole coup 
and then trying to work it out. 

1640
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:38,600
How is Hassan going to 
strategize his way out of this? 

1641
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:41,400
Without the chief secretary by 
his side, he's rising to the 

1642
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:44,200
occasion. 
He's playing things out. 

1643
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:47,900
They never find the treacherous 
letter and it gets thrown in 

1644
01:34:47,900 --> 01:34:50,000
their faces at the assembly. 
All that stuff. 

1645
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:53,400
I found that fine perfectly a. 
Yeah, I think it's okay. 

1646
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:57,100
I think from not understanding 
kind of that time period in like

1647
01:34:57,100 --> 01:34:59,900
Korea too much of like oh sudden
they keep meeting and they keep 

1648
01:34:59,900 --> 01:35:01,400
telling each other what they're 
going to do. 

1649
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:05,200
I was like why why are you 
telling people what you're gonna

1650
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:07,000
do? 
Like why does it take so long to

1651
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:11,100
Dethrone the queen Dowager? 
Like there they even they in the

1652
01:35:11,100 --> 01:35:13,900
end gate of episodes they were 
like you're not technically 

1653
01:35:13,900 --> 01:35:17,100
dethroned yet so you could just 
take the throne and she was like

1654
01:35:17,100 --> 01:35:20,600
you're right there was some of 
that where I was like okay how 

1655
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:22,200
long have they been talking 
about the throne in her? 

1656
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:25,200
They had ample time to just send
her away. 

1657
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:26,700
She was banished to The West 
Wing. 

1658
01:35:26,700 --> 01:35:29,300
Like I don't understand there 
was a little bit of like 

1659
01:35:29,300 --> 01:35:32,300
questions there that were 
lingering. 

1660
01:35:33,300 --> 01:35:35,800
I think the last thing that I 
have in my notes had to do with 

1661
01:35:36,500 --> 01:35:41,200
Hassan having a one-on-one with 
the queen Dowager and it's a 

1662
01:35:41,208 --> 01:35:46,700
culmination for me all his 
troubles with his confidence or 

1663
01:35:46,700 --> 01:35:51,100
feeling inadequate or out of his
depth in the palace are all gone

1664
01:35:51,100 --> 01:35:53,300
here. 
He's literally standing 

1665
01:35:53,300 --> 01:35:58,200
toe-to-toe with her and there 
are there's no Rage or explosive

1666
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:01,900
outbursts to make him seem 
lesser than her, they're on 

1667
01:36:01,900 --> 01:36:05,100
equal. 
Playing fields and she's talking

1668
01:36:05,100 --> 01:36:08,800
all this shit about social 
status and Royal Blood. 

1669
01:36:09,100 --> 01:36:14,300
And he's countering her with a 
full open heart and integrity, 

1670
01:36:14,300 --> 01:36:17,200
talking about Behavior. 
How can you act this way? 

1671
01:36:17,900 --> 01:36:20,600
And at one point, he says, like 
blood is all you have. 

1672
01:36:24,700 --> 01:36:28,300
And he wins like he wins there, 
talk their argument or whatever.

1673
01:36:28,300 --> 01:36:32,300
In this tete-a-tete they have. 
And I was like, this is strong. 

1674
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:35,100
That kingly shit that he's doing
here. 

1675
01:36:35,300 --> 01:36:39,400
Then he just walks away. 
He's like by like no he's not 

1676
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:41,900
really worried that she called 
him there to kill him like he's 

1677
01:36:41,900 --> 01:36:46,900
just there to buy time and show 
face and it's wonderful. 

1678
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:50,400
I really like that. 
Yeah that was definitely a good 

1679
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:52,700
team but yeah. 
Overall like the last like 

1680
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:56,300
ending like the last few 
episodes with like the coup and 

1681
01:36:56,300 --> 01:36:58,800
everything it was like it was 
mostly well done. 

1682
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:01,600
I would say Yeah, yeah, I would 
agree. 

1683
01:37:02,900 --> 01:37:04,200
Okay. 
And then we already talked about

1684
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:06,000
the last 20 minutes, so we don't
have to do that. 

1685
01:37:07,700 --> 01:37:13,200
Um, is there any other God, any 
other notes that you have about 

1686
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:16,300
the crown clown? 
No, I think that was those 

1687
01:37:16,300 --> 01:37:18,800
everything I just, I had like, 
these are just random like 

1688
01:37:19,100 --> 01:37:23,300
comments or really funny like 
when um, when the secretary 

1689
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:26,900
stabs how soon to. 
So it's a mimic the scar from a 

1690
01:37:26,900 --> 01:37:31,600
bro right bro, but it was so 
funny when it And and has to go.

1691
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:33,900
So you're telling me not to run 
away or die and then why'd you 

1692
01:37:33,900 --> 01:37:35,700
stab me? 
And I was like, that's such a 

1693
01:37:35,708 --> 01:37:38,400
mood and then like my next note 
goes. 

1694
01:37:38,500 --> 01:37:44,100
Oh, there is a reason right? 
Well, I'm confused about, I 

1695
01:37:44,108 --> 01:37:46,400
guess. 
Why did he March him up this 

1696
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:51,400
Giant mountain only to like drag
him nearly to the edge of the 

1697
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:54,700
cliff, and then stabbed him 
directly in the chest and give 

1698
01:37:54,700 --> 01:37:58,600
this super dramatic line. 
Like the Clown house on this 

1699
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:02,100
bed, like the q word. 
Oh the king and for what like 

1700
01:38:02,100 --> 01:38:04,700
you could have just done this 
somewhere else. 

1701
01:38:04,700 --> 01:38:07,500
Like I don't know. 
It was it's for just a quick 

1702
01:38:07,500 --> 01:38:09,100
Harry. 
Yeah. 

1703
01:38:09,100 --> 01:38:10,900
It's for the nice. 
Yes, for the G. 

1704
01:38:10,900 --> 01:38:15,800
You know, just to show not for 
any particular reason to be like

1705
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:18,900
drag him up and he was like 
Breathing heavily heavily 

1706
01:38:18,900 --> 01:38:22,800
breathing, he had sweat all over
him, like it was a trek to get 

1707
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:23,800
up there, you know what I'm 
saying? 

1708
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:30,000
I think it was a bit of 
symbolism, really of like, I 

1709
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:32,900
think is where it comes from of,
like, like the disclosure of 

1710
01:38:32,900 --> 01:38:37,400
like your real life and like, 
starting a new life, we're gonna

1711
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:41,500
more or less toss the old life 
off the off the cliff here. 

1712
01:38:42,700 --> 01:38:44,500
I think that was the point of 
that. 

1713
01:38:44,500 --> 01:38:47,800
If we're gonna do this here and 
also there's so many eyes in the

1714
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:50,900
walls of the palace that I feel 
like Kim just stop. 

1715
01:38:51,500 --> 01:38:54,900
And then they're like, it's just
asking somebody to walk in right

1716
01:38:54,900 --> 01:38:58,300
at the wrong moment. 
Yeah, here's my thing too. 

1717
01:38:58,300 --> 01:39:01,200
Is that they're often like 
Having important conversations 

1718
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:04,800
between one another revealing 
conversations between one 

1719
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:07,600
another. 
And I'm like so look the what 

1720
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:10,100
the walls are literally made of 
paper saying. 

1721
01:39:11,500 --> 01:39:16,000
There's no way that there's 
nobody else that hears this and 

1722
01:39:16,500 --> 01:39:21,100
knows your story and the secret.
So it was kind of funny to me, 

1723
01:39:21,100 --> 01:39:24,500
it's a recurring thing in socks 
with a like shut the doors. 

1724
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:28,700
Everyone leave the room and I'm 
like, they're standing right 

1725
01:39:28,700 --> 01:39:30,900
outside the door. 
Like all of your everything's 

1726
01:39:30,900 --> 01:39:35,700
aren't there. 
Yeah I it's a silly problem. 

1727
01:39:35,700 --> 01:39:38,600
I have in like all of the 
historical dramas I watch but 

1728
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:41,300
there is the the one with the E 
Min-ho. 

1729
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:47,700
Faith. 
No, no, it's modern day. 

1730
01:39:47,900 --> 01:39:49,900
Like palace stuff and I'm 
living. 

1731
01:39:49,900 --> 01:39:52,600
I owe the king of tournament. 
Yes. 

1732
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:54,400
Yes. 
I would, they actually pointed 

1733
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:58,200
out in that one, they're like, 
because it's like somebody's 

1734
01:39:58,200 --> 01:39:59,700
literally standing there and 
they're like, yeah. 

1735
01:39:59,700 --> 01:40:03,000
I was listening on the other 
side of the wall, I was like, 

1736
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:04,900
thank you. 
I'm glad it's acknowledged 

1737
01:40:04,900 --> 01:40:08,100
somewhere, right? 
It's literally a paper. 

1738
01:40:08,900 --> 01:40:12,500
It's literally like you could 
poke a hole through that. 

1739
01:40:12,700 --> 01:40:17,400
At and it'd make no difference 
anyway um I really appreciate 

1740
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:20,100
you coming on the show and 
talking for an extended length 

1741
01:40:20,100 --> 01:40:22,700
of time on a very well done 
Saga. 

1742
01:40:22,700 --> 01:40:25,300
Look, I think you can agree. 
It's pretty well done. 

1743
01:40:25,300 --> 01:40:29,000
Despite your qualms with it and 
your low Hoops or for it. 

1744
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:32,300
I would still recommend it to 
people who like this type of 

1745
01:40:32,300 --> 01:40:35,100
show because it's just not for 
me personally. 

1746
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:37,600
Gotcha. 
But I think it was really well 

1747
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:39,100
done. 
The acting was amazing. 

1748
01:40:39,100 --> 01:40:41,700
The production is amazing. 
Yeah. 

1749
01:40:41,900 --> 01:40:44,200
Even like the little Settle 
things with like the score, like

1750
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:48,300
with the the episode, where the 
King dies and then it's just the

1751
01:40:48,300 --> 01:40:49,600
beach. 
Waves is all you here. 

1752
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:55,100
Stop like I'm getting emotional,
it's just so good. 

1753
01:40:55,100 --> 01:40:57,600
Well done. 
So no, I would still recommend 

1754
01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:02,900
it, even though I personally 
wasn't super super into it fair 

1755
01:41:03,100 --> 01:41:04,800
fair. 
I would definitely recommend it.

1756
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:08,200
I think it's actually quite 
underrated because I just don't 

1757
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:11,100
see people talking about the 
crown clown, like, they should, 

1758
01:41:11,100 --> 01:41:13,700
you know, people talking about 
hotel do Luna same year. 

1759
01:41:13,700 --> 01:41:15,400
What are we doing? 
Why are we talking about the 

1760
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:17,700
crown clown? 
Like, come on anyway. 

1761
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:21,400
Yeah, thank you Alex, thank you 
so much for being able to watch 

1762
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:25,200
16 hours of television with me. 
I had so much fun. 

1763
01:41:26,100 --> 01:41:27,700
Oh good. 
I'm so glad every day. 

1764
01:41:27,700 --> 01:41:28,800
So it was like, I had so much 
fun. 

1765
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:31,000
I'm like, oh, that is music to 
my ears. 

1766
01:41:31,100 --> 01:41:33,800
I love to hear it. 
Where can people find you 

1767
01:41:33,808 --> 01:41:34,800
online? 
Alex. 

1768
01:41:34,900 --> 01:41:38,900
Um, well, the podcast is on all 
the platforms and then I am on 

1769
01:41:38,900 --> 01:41:42,000
Twitter and Instagram and I'm 
slowly getting it, a tick tock 

1770
01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:44,200
but I don't know. 
Doing so it's just kind of 

1771
01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:46,900
there. 
Yeah mostly on Instagram I think

1772
01:41:46,900 --> 01:41:50,500
at this point. 
So okay nice so follower at all.

1773
01:41:50,500 --> 01:41:54,600
Hull you been. 
Wow I'm so sorry at how you been

1774
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:58,000
I have that right yeah okay 
perfect definitely give Alex a 

1775
01:41:58,008 --> 01:42:00,500
follow. 
She's wonderful she will talk to

1776
01:42:00,500 --> 01:42:03,700
you about Kpop kdrama. 
Anything. 

1777
01:42:03,700 --> 01:42:07,100
How you wave? 
She's a really great friend on 

1778
01:42:07,100 --> 01:42:10,200
the social. 
So I again want to thank you so 

1779
01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:12,500
much for coming on this humble 
podcast. 

1780
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:14,700
And I think that's it. 
That's a wrap for the crown 

1781
01:42:14,700 --> 01:42:16,200
Cloud. 
That's been our show. 

1782
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:19,700
I'm Jessica and this has been 
the debacle Rambles podcast.