I'm Jessica and this is Tiba K Rambles, where a couple of
friends review Korean dramas and welcome back to another episode.
We are going to review our Blues today and for this episode I am
joined by Curtis from Infatuation Podcast.
Hey, Curtis, how are you? Hey, Jess, how's it going?
It's going well. Welcome back.
Welcome. Back, yeah.
And I also have Brandon from the Poacher Playlist podcast.
How are you, Brandon? I'm doing well, thank you for
the invitation. It's my first time on here.
You did an episode with Jenny from Poach a Playlist a few
episodes back, maybe one or two years ago.
I think that was on Goblin, right?
Yeah, we did Goblin and then she came back and we did your
beautiful that throwback and that was a lot of fun.
So I am so glad that you were keen to join for Our Blues
because I'm told that you really love Our Blues.
And the same goes for you, Curtis, that you are both fans
of this show and could bring a lot to the table, maybe a lot of
context. And just we're glad to talk
through this show. And this was my first time
watching this show. So I was like, I need people
who, you know, have been kind of simmering in this already and
I'm super excited to get to get going on this really quick.
What are you guys watching recently and what are you guys
enjoying in the Asian drama world?
If if you guys don't mind just kind of sharing what's on your
plate right now? Poach a playlist just finished
reviewing Midnight romance in Haguan that has we ha Jun in his
first leading role in a romance that was great and we are going
to be wrapping up a typical family.
That's a drama that me and my Co host Andy.
We really like that drama for this year.
I think we're going to rank it pretty well.
Yeah, same. I I just finished an episode on
a or an atypical family. I loved it as well and actually
currently, for better or for worse, I am watching Miss Day
and Nights. Miss day and nights.
Some actors from yeah, from our Blues.
There's a couple actors from our Blues in there, so yeah, I won't
give any opinions on that one just yet.
We got a couple more weeks on that one.
OK yeah, I did a big poll the other day on my Instagram
stories to see what people were feeling.
We are just past the halfway mark in 2024.
See what people are feeling about the best dramas of 2024.
And overwhelmingly people were saying an atypical family was
their favorite drama. Was the best drama of 2024,
followed by Lovely No no lovely runner I think.
Lovely runner, yeah. Yeah, those two were the top two
of the year. Pocha Pocha approved that one.
Yeah, I know, I know. So this is exciting.
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OK, so we are going to get going on our Blues.
This is actually going to be pretty difficult for us because
there are so many people in this cast.
There are so many storylines that we can talk about.
We are going to do our best to talk about as many as we can
within a reasonable time frame because we don't we're we don't,
we're not made of time. So we're going to get.
Comfortable people. Yeah, so here we go then.
I put together this like Frankenstein of a Netflix slash
Wikipedia synopsis and here it is really quick.
Romance is sweet and bitter and life riddled with ups and downs
in multiple stories about people who live and work on bustling
Cheju Island. The series revolves around the
sweet and bitter lives of people at the end, climax or beginning
of life and depicts their stories in an omnibus format,
which is basically telling stories of diverse characters
that are somewhat interconnected in one way or the other.
So Our Blues aired from April to June 2022.
I kind of feel that this, especially in terms of the
international K drama audience, this show was underrated, flew
under the radar for everybody. I think people were still
reeling from 2521, which had just finished airing in this
same time slot. Then Our Blues started.
People were still all about 2521 and about the end famous ending
on that show. And then after Our Blues
finished airing, it was preceded by Alchemy of Souls, which the
international audience ate up with gusto.
So. And coincidentally, both of
those shows have episodes on the 10 box feed if you want to
scroll back and listen to those. But I feel really badly about
Our Blues, especially when it comes to its reception
internationally, because I don't feel like I kind of got a chance
to really get there, you know? It's 20 episodes long, so it's a
little longer than I think people maybe nowadays,
especially new arcade drama fans are used to, but that is
traditional format, 20 episodes long, so it's nice to see.
Directed by Kim Kitay, he's directed a long list of dramas,
including A Love to Kill from O Five.
That's with Shimina, Worlds Within, Iris with Eve, Young
Gun. When I saw Iris on there, I was
like, oh. Yeah, yeah.
Iris Bro Padam Padam, which is with Hanjimin.
All of these actors are in our Blues that winter.
The wind blows with Choin Song and Song Akio.
He won best director at the 49th Beck Song Awards on this drama.
He directed It's all right, This is love from 2014, which is one
of my favorite dramas. Super good drama.
Secret love, moon lovers, scarlet heart Rio, which we
covered at the end of last season, season 4 bed buck feed.
If you want to go back and listen to that, he covered, he
directed Liv and he will be directing The Trunk, which is a
Netflix show airing sometime this year with Kong Yu as the
star. So that's Kim Kyute, I think
very, very decorated and well regarded director.
He's been around for a minute or two and he's worked with some
top talent. Do you guys like this director?
Do you like his stuff? I haven't watched a ton of his
stuff, to be honest. So yeah, just looking at this
list, I don't think I've watched any of these all the way
through. Oh, OK.
Besides, besides our Blues, yeah.
Unfortunately I can't say that I've seen any of these titles,
but I do know that like Moon Lover, Scarlet Heart, that's
super popular so that's always been on my list.
I might have to check it out. OK, Godspeed.
The show Our Blues was the show Our Blues was written by Noi
Kyung. She's been writing dramas since
the 90s, so this is just a few of the dramas that she's
written. Her beautiful story from O 4
this stars Koh Duchim. She's one of the one of the
actresses in our Blues world's within Padam Padam that one of
the wind blows. It's all right.
This is this is love. Four of the same dramas that the
director has directed. So she's worked with the
director basically five times before our Blues.
And then Dear My friends from 2016, she wrote with Kim Hee JA,
which is the terminal mom in our Blues.
This show won best screenplay at the 53rd Bexhung Awards.
So really, really decorated and and you know, she's been around
for a while. Screenwriter pretty well tested,
I would say. And in looking at this, I have
watched Padam Padam, or at least I watched maybe like half of it.
And then I kind of got a little sidetracked with another drama
or whatever. And I and I basically dropped it
out of like I watched something else and then I never went back
to it. But it wasn't like an
intentional drop, you know what I'm saying?
Like there's a difference between a life happened and I
watched something else. And like, yeah, I didn't
necessarily hate it. I would say that's a very
spiritually, very similar to our Blues.
Not that it's the same format, omnibus format with a lot of
different interconnected stories, but I would say Eben's
character is very similar to the male lead in Padam Padam.
So when I heard, when I saw that she had written that, I was like
both of the director and writer had worked on that.
I was like, oh, that makes too much sense.
So if you want something along those lines, check it out.
And then we're going to get into this cast.
So here we go. We're only going to we're going
to talk about a handful of people in this cast at length
and then. We're because there's like 50 of
them. I want to get this out there.
This is an All Star cast. This is a well regarded
decorated cast. OK?
Every one of these people has been on TV screens, has worked
with each other as well as the director and the writer before,
and it's all intertwined and there's a lot of history coming
into the show and putting together.
This is like Avengers Assemble here and going through and
making this spreadsheet, I would say for this cast felt like
making before End Game. It was like, Oh my God, we had
to have watched all this stuff beforehand to get like the
gravity of this movie. That's what it felt like making
this. My sister called it flash cards
when she saw what this looked like in here, 'cause it's like
their photo, the name of the character, their name,
everything. So here we go.
Eviogan plays Idung Sok, a truck merchant who was born in Chechu.
He has been in about 36 movies, including most recently Concrete
Utopia. He's been in an emergency
declaration, the Fortress. He played the T1000 in
Terminator Genesis. Matt, you're already laughing
Memories of the Sword from 2015, which I really liked that movie
for some reason. I watched it and was like, whoa,
this is mind blowing. And I tried to get it like in my
own personal collection of Blu rays, Masquerade from 2012,
which is an excellent, excellent movie.
It is the inspiration for the show The Crowned Clown.
Again, excellent show. So a lot of movies here going
even further back, I saw the Devil from 2010.
I recently saw this movie. And then I did experience a
little bit of Satan in this movie watching it.
He won the Day Song the grand prize in 2011 at the Beck Song
Awards for his role in I Saw the Devil.
Totally deserved. He was in Iris the movie.
This is back when the Cage dramas.
If they were so successful, they would do multiple seasons.
They made a sequel. Rare.
Then they would do another sequel that was a movie.
So this was where this was like the High School Musical
blueprint where it was like High School Musical, High School
Musical two and then High School Musical three was in theaters of
theatrical release. That's Iris the movie.
So other movies like Joint Security Area, Hero, Good Bad,
the weird, tons of things. He's got nearly 26 credits from
television. Squid Game is most recent.
I think he was frontman Mr. Sunshine.
Iris again. I bring up Iris because he won
Best actor at the 2010 Beck Song Awards for his role in Iris.
I have to be honest, I did not finish Iris when I first watched
I. Haven't seen it either.
Yeah, but yeah. Love Mr. Sunshine.
Love Squid Game. Yeah, he's he's classic.
Yeah, he's great. Classic classic K drama and film
actor. He I kind of consider him more
of a film actor, but how do you guys feel about EBO Nunn?
I I just love him but. I I definitely consider him a
film actor and I saw The Devil as one of my favorite horror
movies. And I have a great memory.
My my mom and I were visiting Korea and she was like, oh,
there's a new young movie do you want to go watch?
And I was like, Are you sure? She's like, yeah, it's young and
we got to go watch it. But she doesn't.
She didn't know what it was going to be about you.
Were like 12? How old were you?
You saw this with your mom. Yeah, I was around that age.
Yeah, but she, she didn't know what it was going to be about.
And and Chiming Chick is one of my favorite actors and hers as
well. He plays the the villain in the
movie, but her, her, her, you know, her face was in her hands
the entire time. But I loved it.
I thought it was great. Oh God it's so concerning like
the whole movie is. Yeah.
Pins and needles. Anyway, highly recommend,
definitely highly recommend it. And actually I have a a poll up
on the on the Patreon feed because there's a bunch of
movies that I've I'm looking to cover maybe, but I can't cover
them all for spooky season, which is coming up really fast.
And that's one of the movies that's on there.
I don't know if people realize like what it is.
And I'm really terrified to rewatch it, but I'll do it.
I'll do it for the pod. You know what I'm saying?
Like I'll brave it again. I'll do it for the pod.
So his mother in the show is played by Kim.
Hey JA, she plays Kangok Thong is the name of her character.
This woman is prolific. She's the first and only person
to have won the Tea Song four times at the Back Song Arts
Awards in 7989, 2009 and 20/19. She was on a recurring Almost
Like Days of Our Lives, but the show was called Country Diaries
in which she appeared for 22 years.
And this is notable because it made her a household name and it
cemented her image among the South Korean audience as an
iconic, unconditionally loving and self sacrificing mother.
Which comes into play because Our Blues that is called into
question that whole persona that she has built over the course of
her career playing amazing strong mothers.
She's been in five move only 5 movies and one of them is mother
from 2009. This is a very famous Bong Joon
Ho movie that Bong Joon Ho like famously was like I wouldn't
have created like I went after her to play this character and
it took years for her to agree to do it.
And I wouldn't have done it if it if she didn't play the title
character. And she was the first because of
this movie. She was the first actress to be
named best actress by the LA Film Critics Association.
It was so impactful I'd highly recommend watching it.
Plus one bin plays her son in the movie.
She's been in 90 plus TV dramas. If you if you look online I
think Wikipedia has it all. Asian Wiki doesn't have it all,
but she's been acting since the 60s and some things I know her
from are Princess Hours is the number one thing that I know her
from. She's the Queen Mother.
That's 2006. I loved her in that.
I thought she was so precious and she's been in things like
Dear My Friends from 2016 and then she was in The Light in
Your Eyes in 2019 with Hanji Min.
Also in our Blues. She won the grand prize, the
song for this role that she did in The Light in Your Eyes at the
55th Bexhang Awards. So she is really, really
decorated, really well known and I don't think international
audiences necessarily get the the big thing of putting her in
this role opposite Ebiogan. Yeah, definitely not in this
role. Definitely not Mom of the Year.
For this. Character that she's playing,
but yeah, she's great in this, you know, you feel for her.
Yeah, she does a lot to you in this in this one.
She does a lot to you exactly like she manhandles us.
She, she will make you feel, yeah.
She will make you feel something, yeah.
Yeah, So following her up, we got Shin Mina.
She plays Min so Na, a single parent with a child who came to
Jeju and works with Yi Dong Sok. I don't think that's necessarily
right. That's one like Wikipedia, but
let's keep it vague. That's fine.
That's fine, fine. She's been in 15 movies,
including A Bittersweet Life from 2005.
This is a reunion for her and EB Yungun because EB Yungun and her
starred in A Bittersweet Life together.
Yes, so very famously. And then she's also been in 15
TV shows. Everyone knows her from hometown
Cha Cha Cha. In 2021, that was a beloved
pandemic show. She's in chief of staff seasons
1:00 and 2:00 Tomorrow with You, Oh my Venus Arang and the
Magistrate. My girlfriend is a Kumio, so on
and so forth, but she's had a very long career.
She's household name as well, and she famously has also dated
chemo bin for I don't know how long.
I really don't know how long they've been dating, but it's
been a really long time. A long time.
Yeah, maybe close to a decade that they've been dating.
So what do you guys feel about Shimena?
Have you guys seen Bittersweet Life?
That was one of the first EB on the movies I've ever seen, no?
Kidding. At the time, I didn't know who
she was. I knew who, you know, I was just
discovering him. But after I rewatched it and I
was like, oh, that's Shimena. Yeah.
Yeah, she's great. You know, I think she's
fantastic. She's great in this role too.
We'll talk about it, but yeah, she stole this drama for me.
Like she really cared. Really.
Oh, that's so nice to hear. So we're going to follow her
with E Chungun, who plays Chunguni, the owner of a fish
store who has bubbly charm. I didn't write that part.
So she's been in 34 movies, including her first movie role
was in Mother 2009 with, yeah, the same Fung Jun Ho movie.
She was I Chung's relative. I don't know, some bit part in
there, I guess. And then she's been in the
wailing from 2016. She plays talkies wife.
Listen, the wailing. I had to like sit down and like
practice meditative breathing after that.
Like that movie put me in a state.
I don't know why I decided to watch horror movies at like
midnight when I'm trying to fall asleep.
I'm like, yeah, I can press play.
I'm like, these are really scary movies and think I'm going to
sleep well tonight. And I don't know what possesses
me to do this, but I'm not. It's not just once or twice that
I've done this. And this one I think I did in
December. I watched The Wailing and I had
I, I was wrecked. I mean crazy eyes wrecked after
that one I watched. So then she's also been in Okja
from 2017. Do you guys remember Okja?
Of course, Bung Jung Ho, right? Yeah, yeah.
She's in Battleship Island in from 2017, a taxi driver and of
course, Parasite from 2019. They did her dirty with a Peach,
Peach fuzz in that movie. She's been.
Yeah, she's been in 43 TV shows. I can't tell you what they all
are. We'd be here all day.
But some of them include Weightlifting Ferry Kimbukchu
from 20/16/2017 with Jong Nani from the Swag crew.
They are both in our Blues. She was in Tomorrow with you
alongside She Nina Fight for My way while You Were sleeping.
Mr. Sunshine alongside Yves Yungun.
She's been in familiar wife the light in your eyes both with Han
Ji Min and Kim Kim Hijab when the camellia blooms with Kole
Duchim. Like all these all these people
have worked together or have like been in the same shows
together. Juvenile justice from 2022.
She's been in daily dose of sunshine and most recently
Curtis Miss Night and day from this year, which I think is
currently airing. Yeah, yes.
So she's had a very illustrious, long, long life, as you know,
people's mothers, people's aunts.
And I think she's finally getting the the roles that I
would love to see her in that I'm really satisfied seeing her
in. And I love her as an actress.
I always perk up when I see her in a project.
Yeah, she's, she's got a toughness to her, but a warmth
and silliness. Yeah, she's she's got a really
wide range. She's fantastic in this one too.
Yes. So one person we wanted to shout
out as well was Chasungun, who plays Hansu, and he's related to
her story. He returns to the hometown early
on in the show. He's like in the first three
episodes, basically, and he masquerades as a perfect urban
man. And he is then his first love.
He's been in like 30 movies and 14 TV shows, including A Korean
Odyssey and The Greatest Love. I remember seeing him in The
Greatest Love and I was like, Oh my God, it's that ridiculous guy
from The Greatest Love when I saw him in our Blues.
He's quite famous in Korea. So how do you guys feel about
this guy? Did you have have you guys seen
him in other things? Oh, yeah, he's, he's really
famous in Korea 'cause he also is a model.
I mean, if you just, I mean, just clearly look at him see
like Holly is. Yeah.
But I, some of my favorite movies recently have him.
So Night in Paradise, he plays an amazing gangster in that a
really fun action series called Tokjun, also known as Believer.
He was in the first and second of those.
And then there was another movie recently called Sinkhole, where
he plays a great character in that movie as well.
So he is. He's a bona fide movie star.
He's a movie star. Yeah, Yeah.
So to follow him up, we got Kimo Bin.
This was oh, he plays PAC Jung Joon, a captain with a direct
and warm nature. This is this is his comeback
descriptions. I know these descriptions.
His comeback show since he was diagnosed with nasopharyngeal
cancer sometime in 2017, which was a bombshell back after
uncontrollably fond in 2016 came out.
Then it was revealed that he was struggling, had been diagnosed
with cancer and he was going to be taking a prolonged break from
acting. So this is his comeback.
This was he hadn't done anything since 2016, so this was a big
deal for Kim Woobin to reappear and be healthy and look great
and everyone was happy to see him in a show with Shin Min now,
which was is his long time love. They were not playing lovers in
our Blues and you might recognize him as well from the
airs in 2013. We have an episode on the airs
as well on the Timber Feed if you want to scroll back and
listen. So that that was fun.
He's been in Gentlemen's Dignity and most recently he was in
Black Knight on Netflix show from 2023.
So Kimo Bin, I think everyone loves Kimo Bin, but he doesn't
have a long resume like other actors and actresses on that
we've discussed so far that we've covered so far, Yeah,
yeah. Shoulders for days though, like
shoulders from it was coast to coast on this guy.
Yeah, he's pretty tall looking and got a good smile on him.
And yeah, people seem to really enjoy Kimovin, but.
Why not? Yeah.
Why not Sure. Sure, I think it.
Wait, is he the last one? I think.
He's yeah. I think we better.
The audience out there was like, Oh my gosh.
That we have agreed to discuss at length.
OK. There are many, many more.
No, there's way more where that came from everybody, but we're
just. Don't mention them.
Yeah. What did you guys think of our
Blues when you first watched it? And if you rewatched it, how did
you guys feel after the rewatch this time around?
Yeah, I agree with you, Jess, that this flew under the radar
from me. I didn't pick it up as it aired.
I picked it up maybe a year later, I think cuz Brandon
recommended it to me. He Brandon said that he really
loved this one and I should check it out.
And I was like, well, if Brandon says I should check it out, I
should watch it. And so I started it and yeah, I
love this kind of drama. I love ensemble casts.
I love intertwined stories. I think it may be like we just
talked about the cast and there's a lot of stars in it,
but the stars are solid and they're prolific, but they're
not necessarily the kind of stars that you say, oh, I have
to watch that drama because so and so is in it.
Like, I don't think for me at least, there's that person for
me that makes me say, oh, I have to watch that drama because so
and so is in it. But once you get started it, it
just sucks you in. The storytelling is fantastic.
Yeah. So I, I, I didn't notice it
right away, but yeah, I picked it up.
It's kind of later after, after hearing other people talk about
it. So it's kind of one of those
dramas, I think. And you liked it?
Absolutely. I liked it.
Yeah. OK.
I'll talk to you more when we get to the ratings.
I'll talk to you more when we. Get to OK, OK, OK.
So, Brandon, let me know what do you think of the show?
Yeah, so for poach a playlist, we we actually picked this title
up. So we watched it from the first
day that it came out. And for me, you know, IB young
Hon is one of the greatest actors.
So there was no way that we weren't going to pick this up.
I mean, this was his venture back into another K drama and
the ensemble cast, as Curtis mentioned, really drew me in.
I loved the format where it's a it's set in Chejo and you have
different vignettes, like every two episodes is set on a
different relationship and it's all intertwined.
It's kind of like a anthology and it all kind of ends
perfectly and it just tells this phenomenal story of all of these
great characters played by wonderful actors and actresses.
I mean, what's not to like for a drama like this?
It made me laugh. It made Jenny cry.
There's I don't want to misspeak, but I think this might
be one of the dramas that Jenny and I go back to the most.
And it's for specific scenes. Jenny and I will say, Oh my God,
remember that one scene from our Blues off?
We have to go turn it on. And we'll just like, Fast
forward to that one scene and we're like, oh, this is an
amazing, amazing. This is a masterpiece.
And we'll just cycle through that every once in a while.
Yeah, I so I didn't pick it up in 2022 when it aired and it
really had nothing to do with anything.
Like I was just watching other things and watching things for
the podcast as well. So, and I have to say, slice of
life is not my bag. It takes a lot for me to think,
oh, I need to watch this slice of life show and I need to watch
it right now. Slice of live shows have a long
shelf life and so to me, it's never, there's never a sense of
urgency to watch it. And for some reason, like I just
never gravitate towards slice of live shows.
It's takes something really special to drag me in and hold
my attention. And for some I really enjoy it
and for others I I don't like for famous ones too.
What's a famous slice of life like?
The Reply series is a really famous slice of life set of trio
of shows and for those I only like one of them.
And the most famous one that everyone raves about.
I don't really enjoy it that much.
It was not an enjoyable experience to watch it.
So if there was any hype around our Blues I didn't hear it.
And if if there was anybody speaking nice things about it, I
was like, OK, another good show that I have to put on my
extensive watch list of like, hundreds of shows at this point.
Like, it's take a number. You know what I'm saying?
Yeah. Yeah.
So it wasn't until this, you know, late last year when I was
putting together the lineup that I was like, you know what, I
kind of do want to press play on our Blues 'cause I took a closer
look at the cast and I was like, you know what, I kind of I'm
feeling it. I was in the mood.
I've said this before, I'm a mood watcher.
And later on, after I had already put it on the docket for
season five of Tabak, I saw a scene of Shimena in the show and
I was like, Oh my God, thank God.
I'm already planning on watching this show because this scene is
tremendous. And I won't say what it is.
I will, I'll say what it is in spoilers, but I was like taken
aback by the incredible depth of the scene and the way it was
acted and the incredible cruelty from some of the character, the
other character that was playing, playing the scene with
her and the subject matter of what the character was, what her
character was going through. And I was like, well, shit, if
that's one character and there's a whole plethora of characters
that the show is about, then absolutely like, sign me up.
Because I run the risk of getting bored when there's so
many characters and it's an ensemble cast.
I don't want to be in it for like one or two people.
And then the rest I'm kind of like, oh, OK, whatever, that's a
fine story. I felt like every story had
merit. Every story was important, every
storyline was interesting. And even though some are more
like favorites definitely and maybe some made me cry and
others didn't, but overall I felt like the stories and the
show was super well done. I thought it was brilliant and I
had a wonderful time. I appreciated getting to know
the characters like I was at the end of the show.
I was like, it was an honor to like watch this show and
experience this little corner of Teju and, you know, be in this
in their little slice of life, you know, and I think that's the
goal of slice of life. And maybe I'm like, I have too
high of a standard for a slice of life where I like want to be
so immersed and so honored and in love with every character.
Even if I don't like the character, I'm like, I'm happy
to be here and watching your story.
You know what I'm saying? That so many don't meet my
standard and I just get bored or I check out at some point and
this one exceeded my expectations.
So from everything like from the way it was shot, it was
stunning. The location, the vistas,
everything about Cheju was so beautifully captured.
The music was great, even the stuff that wasn't OST, it was
very ratatouille, French music, cooking, playlist type music
that was playing and I was like, this is right up my frickin
alley. The way it was shot again, like
cool handheld shots. They were kind of taking some
risks, like they were shots of being in the passenger seat POV
alongside characters. Someone opens a door and the
camera follows them through the door and stuff like that is
really immersive and makes you feel like you're just a family
on the wall versus stuff that's a little more static or, you
know, immovable things that feel a little more staged.
And this felt like you were in it in the action with them and
walking through the door with them, going into their house
with them, getting in the car with them and things like that.
Really, you know, if you're not paying attention, you you just
feel the effects of it. But that is really difficult to
do, right? Like technically difficult to do
over and over again for 20 episodes over so many different
stories. So really appreciated that
attention to detail in the cinematography and I the acting
was so top notch. You know, we have already gone
through a handful of actors, but there's even more that we didn't
go through their phommography and discuss them at length.
But like, honestly, it is a feat just to assemble this amount of
talent. Yeah, no weak links at all.
No weak links and it's all good. Everyone is solid.
Everyone is solid and they covered a lot of themes that K
dramas just don't tend to do things.
Themes about, you know, disability, themes about mental
illness, mental health, fractured relationships between
elderly parents, you know, mother and son and teen
pregnancy. Like, you name it, it's in this
show and they handle it with care.
So all that just to say it was a great experience and they they
exceeded my expectation. It was really good, really good.
Held my attention. Do you recommend this to
everyone? Yeah, yeah, I think I would.
I mean, caveat not if you're not a slice of life person, if you
maybe don't like small town shows, if you've watched a few
and you're like, I'm not a small town person.
Like take me back to Seoul, maybe don't watch the show.
Like sorry to say, like this is not said in the big city.
Let me see, if you're not a fan of anthologies and that sort of
storytelling, perhaps this isn't the show for you.
And especially this one set up per episode.
So each episode is focused on a different character and their
journey and it pushes their story forward a little more each
episode. You'll know who it is the story
is about because it is named. This episode title is the
characters names. If that's not your bag, perhaps
don't watch. So these are very specific, like
caveats. Don't watch if you don't like
this sort of thing. But overall I think that it's a
lovely show, really relaxing at a lot of points and a really
stressful in a lot of points. So something for everybody.
Yeah, not a light watch. Definitely one that you have to
kind of be in the in the mood for and ready for.
There's not that one romances several love story arcs, but
some of them are messy and there's a lot of messiness, a
lot of sadness in this. There's a lot of sad, the themes
of loss. And you know, if you're a person
that wants instant gratification in your K dramas, this isn't the
K drama for you because you're not going to get the perfect
love story that's A to B to C You're going to get A to C,
maybe to D. To gamma you.
Know what I'm saying? Like it like skips around and
that's how life is like. You don't get easily digestible
content in this. Yeah.
So in that case, if you're if you're looking for that and you
want that in this Seaside K drama, then no, like that's not
what this is. Yeah, I mean, it's intimidating
too. Like if you look at 20 episodes,
like I don't think if I saw it, I don't know if I would turn it
on right away. Like, oh, twenty episodes,
that's a lot. But there are no wasted
episodes. How long did it take you guys to
get through the 20 episodes? Was it easy to binge or did you
find yourself needing to just take some breaks and pauses
because of how heavy some of the subject matter was?
Good question. I think my wife and I did in
about two weeks, I think. So we didn't power through it.
We, we moved pretty steadily. But you know, one a day, maybe
two a day. I'm not going to do six in a
row, you know, something like that.
Yeah, I did the same thing. And that was mostly because I
was working through holiday weekends, family visits, and I
could do two to three a day. And then I would do no episodes
for like 3 days and then I would come in and do one episode and
then two episodes and so on and so forth.
So it was really herky jerky my watching, but theoretically, I
could get through multiple episodes before I got really
sleepy and then had to like, actually go to sleep.
But yeah, I think it was really easy for me to watch the
episodes. I didn't feel like any of them
were a chore at all. And even when I got through a
few episodes that were about a favorite character, I really
resonated with that storyline. And then the next episode is
something new, a new storyline, and we're pushing something else
forward. I was like, oh, let's let's look
at this, let's see this new thing now.
And I was very open to the other stories.
And that's something that I think is a testament to the
writing. It's a testament to the the
acting and the way that the ensemble cast has so much
chemistry. And even if you're seeing this
character's story, you've already seen that character,
like throughout the other episodes.
And now you're focusing on like, what's their beef?
What is their deal? Why?
Why are they mad? Why are they sad?
Why are they whatever? Why are they the way they are?
And it just goes to show that I think in my mind, you have to
have good writing, then a good cast, and then everything flows
from there. Yeah, yeah, I agree.
This drama was nominated for a Three Pics Song Awards Best
drama, Best director and best Actor for EB Young.
I was taken aback that he didn't win, but I know.
Yeah, but it's OK. This OST.
What did you guys think of this OST?
I mean, as a big BTS fan, I had to support Chimin, who has a
great song on here. I feel bad.
I always forget the other singer on that song because it's it's
like a duet. Oh yeah.
But I I do know. That Chimin is on there Ha Song
Moon is the other singer on the song which is called With You.
Yep, and I think some of the Espa girls did a song on this as
well. But overall the soundtrack
really fits this Teju vibe and it's out of some of the dramas
that we've seen in the past. I listened to this OST.
Maybe top three, Top five most listen.
Oh my gosh, that's so cool. So I forgot that Chimin was on
the OST because I had in the back of mine, I was like, there
was an OST that Chimin was on and everyone was really excited
about it. And then the first time I heard
the actual song was in the context of the show.
And I'm watching it and I hear Chimin's voice and I'm like,
holy shit. I think this is the show that he
did the OST on. And it was like making
connections, but it was like really delayed connect
connections, you know what I'm saying?
Like, if I was a true BTS fan, I would know exactly like which
show he was doing this for and what the song was.
I would have already heard the song in its entirety and all
this stuff. But yeah, I really enjoyed this
OSC as well. All the songs are really good.
You have familiar, like, faces, so to speak, on the OSC.
You have like Davici is on here at the Yon Mellow Man Stacy
Punch Highs is on here. Some of the if you look up these
artists, you'll be like, Oh my God, I love this OSC from XYZ
other show. So these are really comforting
sort of artists that provided a wonderful soundtrack to art
Blues and I thought kept kept thinking over and over, this is
a really good OSD. Like I got to add some of these
songs when I get done with this. I got to circle back on this OSD
and add these songs to my playlist for sure.
Yeah. Is there anything else you guys
wanted to talk about before we get into the spoiler section
'cause we're going to give our scores and then spoiler section
but. I'm ready to rock'n'roll.
OK, let's do it. Let's do it.
OK, so before we get into the spoiler section, what would you
give our Blues out of fives? Hold your bottles.
Five being the best and one or zero being like terrible.
I would give it like 4.5 out of five, yeah, 4.5 out of five.
Yeah. All right, Curtis.
All right, You know, I'm. I'm going to give it.
I'm going to give it five out of five.
It's on my it's on my Mount Rushmore.
Wait, wait, wait. It's on my downplay because I
asked you earlier, you didn't say if you liked it.
And then I asked you, did you like it?
And you were like, yeah, yeah. And then you come in hot with a
5 out of five soldier bottles like you like.
To you got to add some dramas. We need some tension.
We need some tension here. No, I I would put it on my Mount
Rushmore. I would say, you know, top five,
top four, top five drama for me. Like I really, I, I liked it.
I liked everything about it. So I would put it up there.
Definitely. I've only watched it twice.
I could I could watch it a few more times.
There's so much going on. So I would again, I don't know,
like it took me a while to recommend it to my wife, but we
sat down and we started watching it and, and she loved it as
well. It's, it's a slow burn, but it's
such a good burn, you know, so it's so like heartwarming isn't
the right, it's just, it just hits you, you know, hits you in
in some good places. So I I would give it a high
rating. I think my .5 deduction is just
for some of the storylines that I didn't care that much for, but
others I absolutely loved. And so I think that's why I gave
it a .5 deduction. But Curtis, I'm happy that a
wreck that I gave you made it to your Mount Rushmore.
That makes me very happy. Yeah, this is full circle
because Brandon recommended our Blues to you, Curtis, and then I
think at some point you recommended it to me and then it
was floating in the ether. And then I'm sure that that
played into my decision. She'll be finally like, hey, I
need to watch our Blues. So wow, we're just influencing
each other is what I'm saying. Well, where do you put it?
You haven't given us your number yet.
I think my number is 4.5, maybe five out of five because I loved
it. It was, it was really a solid
show. I had almost nothing.
There's I can't think of anything bad to say about it.
It's not, it's not, it's not worth like deducting anything.
Like, I don't know. There are some storylines that
after seeing the whole body of work, I'm like, OK, that wasn't
my favorite. But still in the moment I was
like, oh, this is really hitting me like in I don't know.
I was still like, it's deep and it's real when I was in it and
now after seeing it and I was like, all right, that's so good.
It's up. Worth deducting anything.
I don't know. I don't know.
Five out of five. We'll just give it five out of
five, four and a half, five and five and a five out of five
soldier bottles. We are going to get into
spoilers right after this. Excuse me, I can't try.
I can't try, you know. I have no tingles.
Oh, sorry. This crossing shit.
What? All right, we're on the other
side of spoilers, so anything goes.
We are going to spoil the storylines in our Blues.
If you want to preserve your first watch of our Blues, then
stop listening. Watch our Blues and come back.
But if you don't care, they keep listening.
I think the storyline that nobody particularly likes, for
lack of a better word, is the first one, the first three
episodes. Am I correct in thinking that
that's Unni and Hansu's story? Is that right?
I mean, you need it. You need it there to set up the
relationships between the other townsfolk.
Yeah, yeah. Don't love the actual story.
You need all the periphery things and how she interacts
with everybody and how she's sort of like the backbone of the
town financially because she owns this very successful
business. She owns buildings, and she's a
very wealthy woman who is still on that grind, you know what I'm
saying? Like, it also sets up her
character, her persona. But it is a reunion of first
loves. And you get Han Soo, who's back
in the mix. And I for sure thought he was
going to be a bigger part of the show, like he was going to
continue living in church. Didn't happen, no.
He makes 15 minute appearance at the end.
Yeah, they like brought him back for the final lap and I was
like, oh, just leave him where he was.
Like, he didn't even need to be back here in the episode. 20 He
didn't need that, Yeah. But I did like the old, like
he's an old banker, burned out, exhausted with life.
And they had the scene on the beach where he's reminiscing on
their golden youth, and he's overwhelmed with nostalgia.
And he runs into the water and floats next to his teenage self,
who is so young and carefree. And that visual and the the
juxtaposition of his younger self to his current self was
something like, I was like, there's something in that.
And I really felt that where maybe people can relate to that,
where you feel like life has just beat you down.
And if you look back on your life and you look back on your
youth, you, you miss who you used to be, that naive person
who wasn't concerned with working, wasn't concerned with
responsibilities, wasn't exhausted all the time, wasn't
in debt, so on and so forth. The list goes on.
So that part of their story resonated with me.
And of course, like the way that it plays out was really
heartbreaking. Did you guys like feel any type
of way about it or was it just me that it was like kind of in
my fields the first three episodes?
I thought it was an important story to set the stage for the
village and all the characters. I was just bummed because I
really like that actor and I thought it would be interesting
if he was a recurring member across the other episodes.
We really don't see him after Episode 3 until the the last
episode. I think when they're playing the
friendly soccer game. I think it was a soccer game.
It was like a field day that they had.
I, I don't even know where they're playing against, like
other village people that weren't in the in the ensemble
cast. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But.
I grew to love when he's character across the the
episodes and I really wanted her to have some type of love line
later on and I was shocked that they didn't give her one.
So then I think back and I'm like, oh, it would have been
great if she could kind of have some relationship with her first
love, but obviously it doesn't work out like that.
But I was kind of bummed for in here as well.
Yeah, I was so bummed for her. I was so bummed for her,
especially when she's talking to him like her first love Han SU
about how she's really hesitant to go on 1st dates and stuff
like that. She says I think I'm turning
into an awful person. I measure the pros and cons even
when it comes to love. I'm a horrible person who only
cares about my interests. I I think I'll die alone like
she's she's so hurt by the fact that she might die alone because
she has all of these conditions right?
Like for falling in love that she says to him, she rejects
people because maybe the guy is sick or he's taking care of
someone who's sick and that means that he wants a caregiver
wife or he's just interested in me because I'm rich, he's after
my wealth or he's the eldest son who has to care for his aging
parents. That'll def she'll definitely
rejected because that responsibility and burden as she
sees it would likely fall on her and put a strain on her and
their brand new marriage. So all of these things, the, the
responsibility and exhaustion of life and the, all of these
societal expectations of women especially, she's like, I don't
know. I don't want to fucking deal
with that. Like I'm an independent lady.
I have my own income, I'm wealthy.
I don't need a man. And like, how's he going to make
my life better? Basically?
I don't want him to make my life worse.
And it's like a I'm like, this is serious.
Like I don't know how you guys felt about it, but I was like,
she's she's preaching something good right now.
Like, I don't know. It was, it was a very real
lament, I think for her because she she was feeling like she was
too picky. But I'm like, you can afford to
be picky. You know what I'm saying?
Anyway, it was heartbreaking to to see that little story play
out, but then we get to, I think it's no, we don't get to Shin
Mina yet, it's Yong Oak and Jong UN story do what did you guys
think of this story? Wait, refresh my memory on.
This So Yong Oak is Hanjiman. She is the Oh yeah, OK, younger
hanyo. Yeah, let's give her a nickname.
So like she has the sister with the with Down syndrome.
I don't know a nickname, Brandon, you got a nickname,
but. Just call her Hanyo.
Hanyo. Hanyo, OK, the young hanyo.
So it's her and Chong Joon Kimobin's character.
OK, yeah, it's a it's a cute love story.
I mean, it's again, there's it's what I love about this drama is
that none of this is super clean.
Everyone's, everyone's got some stuff, you know, everyone's got
some history, some baggage, secrets.
And and yet there's this, there's a love story brewing
throughout the whole drama between these two.
And you know, he comes through and he's as solid as you can be,
you know, basically loving her even through her warts and her
flaws. And she's a great character.
You know, like she I think she shows some depth in her acting
ability as well as the way they wrote her.
Like she's got some real depth to her.
And I just, yeah, I like this is my second favorite love story in
this draw. Second favorite, OK, so we'll
well, I'm sure we'll get to the your first favorite at some.
Point. So this story was difficult for
me, I think because I wanted them to get together.
Obviously, I really loved their romance especially.
There was such such an effortlessness when they showed
them together, like especially after like they got together and
started their relationship. Their little vignettes and
montages of them spending time together and watching TV and,
you know, laughing together and things like that, that I was
like, that's a real relationship.
Like what is where is Shimena? Because that looks real.
I was convinced acting is is incredible in this.
So I was like taken aback completely because they sold me
on this relationship and their their love, right?
That she's catching feelings and he was had already caught
feelings like a long time ago. But he like initially this was
funny to me initially. He's concerned about her body
count and he writes down in his in his bus.
Can I date a woman who's already been in so many relationships
and all she had shared with him was that she had two past
relationships. At this point she just says that
there's two past, she has two exes, that he's as tall as one
of her exes, and then there's another ex in the mix. 2 guys
and I go, my guy, it's two exes. What are you talking so many
Like he has made this story up in his mind that she's got like
all of these. Guys, they kind of made her.
Right, right. They kind of made her out to be
a tease though, you know, like she was teasing with that other
captain and yes. I wanted to get your.
Perspective. It made him wonder.
Right.
I wanted to get your perspective on this.
Because the other captain, who was problematic by the way, she
goes out with him when she goes dancing or something with him.
And that escalates, 'cause that guy thinks he has some sort of
claim like to her because she went out with him.
They have a drunk night out. I have in my notes as the ugly
captain, That's my nickname for that guy, the ugly captain.
And he starts, he's drunk and he starts demanding they go to a
motel and they she won't, he won't take no for an answer.
What do you guys think about this whole situation?
Because she is just, she's like deflecting, deflecting the whole
time and trying to defuse the situation versus outright
telling him, no, we're never going to go out.
And I think she reads that drunk captain way better than anybody
else in the cap in the town does.
And she's like, he's good for a good time, but not for anything
else. And I want to do what I want to
do. And you know, that's that I saw
there's I have a hiccup here with like calling her a tease
necessarily because the show wants us to think she's a tease,
you know what I'm saying? But like, all she did was go
dancing with him. Maybe it's my Western lens.
I think it's a bit of the, I think it's a bit of the Western
lens as well. But you know, Korea is obviously
more conservative. But when I was watching the
show, in my head, I was thinking Yongl could have been a little
bit more clear and a little bit more transparent on certain
things. Obviously, she doesn't have to
reveal anything she doesn't want to reveal, especially about her
younger sister. But I just felt like she could
have always kind of put some of the rumors down easily if she
chose to. But she would always stay quiet.
She would always act alone. I think if I'm remembering
correctly, she she acts alone in one scene, which then puts some
of the other hanyas in jeopardy I think if I'm remembering that
correctly. Yeah, yeah.
She starts harvesting. What is it?
She starts. They're supposed to resurface
every time they get something. They've harvest something.
They get one thing and they're supposed to come up for for air.
And The thing is, they're diving.
They're not diving like 10 feet, they're diving 60 plus feet in
the water. That's six stories down.
So when they're telling her, hey, you need to do this, this
is our procedure. This is our workflow, so to
speak. And you're staying down longer
just to grab more mollusks and, and, and sea creatures down
there. You're harvesting more than one
thing at a time. It's putting you at risk because
we're supposed to do this together.
We're in it all together. And your partner and you are
supposed to keep an eye on each other.
And if one person is 60 something plus feet above you
catching a breath, she can't save you if anything goes wrong
on the bottom of the ocean floor, is what they're saying.
And so they're saying, they kept saying she was greedy.
Right, so I think I think some of her actions definitely made
her image in the village kind of worse than it really needed to
be. I also don't mind her
relationship with the The Ugly Captain as you call him because
the scenes with Ki Mubin's character POC Jung Jun and the
Ugly Captain were some comedic gold scenes so I didn't mind it.
Yeah, like, you kind of want them to butt heads if only to
see Kimu Bin, like stand tall next to this dude who thinks
he's hot shit and it's funny, like just anyway.
And then he like, busts him for drunk driving.
Like he's a mess. Like, guy is a mess anyway.
But the T the tease thing, I had a real hiccup with that.
It was everything else. About her, that she was really
mysterious and kept up that mystery and didn't set any
record straight, was content to like not clear any error when
people were bad mouthing her and spreading rumors about her.
And even though she was telling the truth about her parents,
yes, they were artists, yes, they lived here, yes they did
this as they own some sort of thing.
All of these individual things were true at one point in her
life. Everyone took it to mean she's
telling three different separate stories.
She's lying to all of us because all of these three things can be
true. And I also thought the villagers
were just. So I guess this goes into like
the village as a whole was so simple minded, right?
Like they can't think to themselves, hey, she just wants
her privacy like she's entitled to.
Like she doesn't have to share who her parents are, what her
parents do, who keeps calling her all the time while she's out
at sea harvesting. Like it's not your business, you
know what I'm saying? Yeah, I mean, well, they set
her. They, like you said, they, they
wrote her a certain way, 'cause there's that one scene, I think
the first time we see her, they're heading out to sea on
Wubin's boat, you know, and she's waving to ugly captain and
like, I love you, you know, like she's yelling to his boat and
waving to. She's just waving.
And super. They meet up and sit to.
See him and everyone's like. Yeah, looking at her like, what
is she doing? What is she doing?
And then at the bar, I mean, at, at the, at the little restaurant
that she helps out at too, you know, he comes in there and
she's, she's a little friendly, you know, not not being
scandalous or anything. That's what I need.
I know I. Know but but you know, in a
small town where everyone's in everyone's business they're kind
of setting this up you know this is her this is her role of in.
The town yeah. So, yeah, so we get this girl
and I think I was on her side, even though like she has a very
and I have to preface this by saying this actress, I I like
her, but I don't like her, if that makes any sense.
Handyman ever since 1 spring night, I'm kind of like about
her because she was mean to a single dad who's a very
precious, like kind soft hearted person and she's being really
wishy washy with that with that character.
And I was like, why? Why is she giving this guy the
run around? And so I dropped that show
because of her, the way she played that that character in
particular was so grinding. And I've never recovered from
from that character. And this character that she
plays in our Blues is more of that side of Hunji Min, right,
where she is a slippery character, right?
You kind of can't get a read on her sometimes.
And that that aspect of her, it kind of spirals into this
relationship that she this really fraught relationship that
she has with her twin sister, the sister with Down syndrome.
And it was at this point that I thought this story got way more
complex in a way that no other K drama I've seen has done, where
you have a, first of all, an actress with downs.
Yeah. And even the younger version,
like, they had some flashbacks and stuff.
And even the younger version of that sister was another actress,
a younger actress with Downs. And I was like, this is amazing.
This is so great. Very unique and groundbreaking
to me. And this relationship is so
complicated. I don't know if you guys have
ever done any caregiving for someone who's sickly or or
mentally incapacitated in any way, but I have.
And so this relationship, I was like, it was like 2 halves of me
pulling at each other like taffy.
Did you guys like feel this way at all with this relationship?
Yeah, it, I've done a little caregiving and it it's tough.
It takes a toll on you in so many ways, you know,
financially, physically, especially emotionally.
And, you know, the idea of her being out of town, you know,
while her sister is on, on the mainland is, is complicated,
right? Like she needs her space, she
needs to live her life. But there's this constant drain
on her coming from the mainland. And yeah, it's tough.
That was, it was rough. It's so well done.
Like, I don't, I didn't think I would like it.
You know, when they first revealed it, I was like, I don't
know if this is going to go over well because you have a real
act. You have a real person who's not
acting necessarily in some of the things that she was going
through, you know, and, and she was, she was great.
And that the way they handled it was beautiful and heartbreaking
and but endearing at the same time.
So yeah, I got super complicated.
You really felt for her at that point and it was really good.
Yeah. How did you feel about it,
Brandon? I thought it was, I think you
mentioned it in the beginning. The, the, the story was
delicately told. And you know, I can't say that I
have experience being a caregiver, but I just can only
imagine the amount of stress that it must weigh on you.
And it kind of goes to show why Young Oak was so focused on
trying to, I don't know, make as much money as she could, even
though that meant she wouldn't get along with the other hanyas.
It's because she has to care for her younger sister.
And I thought that it was a great love story between Young
Oak and Chung Jun. And one thing that I can't get
out of my head was this innocent scene.
I think when Chung Jun first meets her sister, I don't even
think he realizes what Down syndrome even is.
And so it was like a learning experience for him in a very
innocent way. I thought that was great.
So it was very educational as well.
So overall, I thought it was a great segment.
Yeah, I thought they really went there.
It was really hard to watch in a lot of places, especially when
she is being super harsh to her sister and you can tell that she
just doesn't want to be around her.
She wants almost nothing to do with her.
And there is this resentment, this deep resentment there, and
there's also this deep love there.
And these things, these duality that's within this character was
really addicting to see them unpack.
She says in this I think voiceover, she says Yong Hui is
special. She's especially weird.
She's especially ugly and she especially makes my life
miserable. And I was like, we can stop
right now. Like that's it is really cruel.
I think the the storyline plays out really in terms of cruelty.
And do you understand the cruelty?
Like, can you understand where she's coming from?
Yeah. And.
Yeah, there's no winners in this.
There's no it's like a serial sum game.
This storyline especially, well, all of them like true, truly.
She's tries to break up with Kim Woobin.
He won't have it. He's taken aback by the by the
twin with downs. He says yes, no hesitation when
she reveals that they're orphans.
They lost their parents when they were 12 years old.
That's a strike against them in Korean society.
There's a stigma around orphans. And then she throws it in his
face. She'll have to care for her, for
her sister for the rest of her life.
And that is a really sad, brutal reality that she has this person
that has to, she has to care for them.
They're family, They're all they have.
And it's super sweet of him. But I understand where she's
coming from when she tries to break up with him, when she's
like, why don't you just save yourself?
Like you don't understand what the gravity of it is.
This is a lifelong commitment. You're not just committing to
me, you're committing to the both of us.
Like you, we are a package deal. And I think the show really gets
across the burden of being a caregiver, the sacrifice of
giving up your life, the expense of living for someone else.
That is not just monetary. It's time, it's energy, it's
mental load, and in this case, the threat of becoming a social
pariah because they start going in public, the three of them,
and it is a shit show. They get stares, there's
rudeness, people are inconsiderate, and society at
large is cruel. You have a child that's like
actively making fun of the sister in public and the parents
are unconcerned about correcting that behavior and apologizing
for on behalf of their child. And that is really jarring to
see in the show. And I don't think that it's
necessarily far off the mark, you know what I'm saying?
For. It's realistic.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Korea society.
So that was really tough. It's a tough.
They're holding up a big mirror to Korean society and they're
saying look at what what this is and it's provocative.
Later on. I think the sister of the Peno
has, like, a little hissy fit at the house later when the sister
is outside drawing in the cold, It's freezing outside, and she's
drawing outside. No one knows how to act around
people with disabilities, how to treat them with dignity because
they are so removed from society.
And she says this, they're sent to care facilities instead of
being cared for at home. And if they're with family,
they're clearly a burden. And any public outbursts are a
shameful embarrassment that draws the attention of a society
that has no compassion. There is no ADA compliance in
Korea. There is, you know, no laws
prohibiting discrimination of people with disabilities in
Korea. This is a serious thing.
You know what I'm saying? Almost feeling like it's
sanctioned. And she is devastated and at the
same time really angry at the whole situation.
And despite people with downs having developmental delays and
and intellectual disability, they have high emotional
intelligence. And so the sister is outside and
she understands everything. She is crying because she knows
what the sister is saying. She hears her and she completely
understands that her sister borderline hates her.
And this whole thing, I mean, it's rough, man.
It's so rough, that whole thing, unbelievable, unbelievable.
The end of that storyline when she sees all of the hand drawn
portraits, the whole thing of the sister saying like, you
can't draw, you're not an artist, I don't know why you're
doing this. And then she sees the obscene
amount of of art that she has created while she was in Cheju
for that week and she. They did it really well, you
know, like she doesn't, she doesn't come across as like, you
know, an amazing, amazing artist.
But the drawings she did are so endearing and you know, they're
they're beautiful and they they capture more than just the
accuracy of of what these people look like.
She captures the heart. And I thought they did that
really good. Like whoever was the actual
artist who did all these, like they did a really good.
Job, I can tell you who the actual artist was.
It was the actress Jungle who plays the sister with dance Yung
Hui. Oh, really?
Yeah, all hand drawn portraits that were displayed in episode
15 were sketched by Jung. Oh wow.
Her Wow. Yeah, the actual artist.
The actual actress, I should say.
Yeah, no, I mean, 'cause it can't, it came out across as
really good, you know, 'cause I was like, I was wondering, you
know, was she gonna be super amazing, you know, like, like.
Really. Detailed, but they the way they
did it, they were simple. But yeah, so that's perfect.
That's perfect. So that was another storyline.
What were other storylines that you guys wanted to bring up?
I think we maybe want to leave the Ibiungun one for the one
with him and his mom, I guess for last maybe.
But what were the other other ones that you guys want to bring
up? Some some that I really
appreciated. So the little girl and I, I, I,
I'm blinking on her name. Maybe I can find it.
Oh, Ungi her her father is a childhood friend to the village
and he is getting surgery. And so they all climb to the top
of the mountain the the 1000 moons and they get all the
sailors. I thought that was one of the
most. Oh my God.
Heartwarming scenes ever. It made Jenny cry so much.
And then my personal favorite storyline for this show is the
the not just the teen pregnancy, but then also their father's
relationship. So then for I that that was my
my favorite storyline of the show.
Mm hmm. What was What made it your
favorite? Well, it's definitely a topic
that we casually don't see teen pregnancy in in Kane dramas.
And I just thought they truly captured how realistic and how
how accurate they depicted how people would make decisions in
those in that situation. So do we, do we try to get the
abortion or, or I can, or hey, we can do it.
We can raise the kid or can we? Can we?
Not them telling their parents. I thought like those two scenes
in that night. It was amazing.
Amazing in the sense that that is exactly how most Korean
parents would react. If I told my father, I'm sure it
would have been the exact same situation as that young kid.
Same for the daughter. And so I just felt like this was
the realist depiction for such a harsh topic.
And they did it on AK drama. They weren't afraid to really go
there. And I appreciated that.
And not to like generalize, but I remember like me, my mom, all
all my friends who are Korean, we're watching this show.
When we got to this segment of episodes, everyone was like, Oh
my God, these episodes were amazing.
Like everyone has to go watch our Blues like the storyline
before. And we already mentioned like
the first three episodes and then kind of the love line was
building. So up until that point, it was a
decent show. We weren't sure how crazy it was
going to go, but when it got then you.
Hit like episode 5 and that's when you hit the teen teen
pregnancy and you're like, yeah, you don't know where to look.
You're just like, Oh my God. Right.
And so Curtis, you mentioned your, I think you mentioned that
Kimubin's love line was your second favorite, is that right?
Yeah, yeah. So my favorite love line was the
two kids. OK, OK.
Oh. That's so cute.
Oh. Yeah.
I love. Them, the dads are amazing, the
dads, you know, the, the characterizations of the dads,
they just went with it. They're so committed to who they
are playing, the actors and the you just the, when the kids are
like, well, if I tell my dad, he's going to cry for days.
And if I tell my dad, he's going to break a lot of things, you
know, and, and then it exactly plays out exactly that way they
thought it would because they knew their their dads so well
and their dads are well known in the community for being those
things too. And it's just the whole town was
feeling what they were feeling and it and then just their beef
that goes back 20 years. It was it was so well done.
Yeah. The beef.
The beef killed me. So I agree completely that the
teen pregnancy was surprising and well done.
And again, another taboo subject, right?
It was very emotional cheese. I I was caught up from the very
like she goes to the an OBGYN who was awful and condescending
to her. He tells her it's your fault for
not using contraception and like they're the condom failed or
something like that. And so they did use
contraception. It was like she she was gagged
like by this doctor and it's super frustrating to see her in
that environment. I don't know if you ever you've
ever had someone in your life tell you horror stories about an
OBGYN and they're like, I don't never want to see that person
again. But like, honestly, I, I've
experienced something similar to this, not with a pregnancy,
thank God, but like with, you know, just a regular visit where
I'm like, I hate that doctor. I need to report that doctor to
look bored. And this was tough to watch,
especially because it's a teenager.
They're helpless. She's helpless, right?
Like she doesn't have a guardian with her.
She doesn't have any person to advocate for her.
She's never gone to an OBGYN before and he's out here telling
her telling her things like all you teenagers are the same.
When she suspects she's she tells the doctor, I think I'm
three weeks, 3 months pregnant and she's actually 22 weeks
pregnant, which is 6 months. So she's been pregnant for six
months, twice the amount of time she thought she was.
He demands that she get parental consent and they, I think I've
misread the subtitles, but she was, I think she said earlier
that it's not needed by law anymore, but the doctor was
being a Dick basically and saying like, you know, you need
parental consent or whatever. It was like this whole like shit
show. So ever since that doctor's
visit, I was like, this is going downhill fast, you know what I'm
saying? And then we get the beef between
the dads and I mean, it was bad like the IT culminates in this
jail cell. To me it culminates when they
get arrested together. For fighting each other, it's.
For fighting, Yeah. And he said her dad tells his
dad, how did it feel to get beaten by her son?
He says that's how he felt the night that he went to him in
desperate need and said I need, I need money.
Like my child is hungry. My wife has left me.
And he called him a dirt poor loser.
Yeah, and and he said that that's fine.
He goes. Yeah, I know I was, but you just
don't do that in front of my daughter.
You. Know you don't do that in front
of my daughter. And he called him a dirt poor
loser and made his daughter beg for money.
Yeah. And he was cruel and degrading
when he was most vulnerable. And he went to him because he
was the only friend he could rely on.
He was all he had and that is to go to someone with all of your
heart and for them to like to humiliate you.
That is what stuck that that is the beef that stuck.
And so to see that play out and to see how the kids were just
pummeled by the the two dads in various ways, emotionally and
physically. I mean, it was bad.
But then the reconciliation was was like sad and beautiful.
Yeah, and realistic to a point. You know, where it didn't, it
didn't happen over one, one episode.
You know, it did took some time. And yeah, there, there needed to
there, there needed to be a lot of steps in between.
But the the arc was great. Yeah.
I thought the arc was really great.
Demanding apologies for things like he like he said shit about
his daughter that she was sleeping around and she was like
he dragged her out of the hotel, the motel room at one point and.
Yeah, that's. Literally take her to the
hospital to get an abortion. It was like wildness, wildness.
So that whole thing was was great.
I had this moment ingrained into my brain was episode 6 when the
the two kids decide to keep the baby and they said promise.
She said, promise me you won't change.
And it starts raining on them. She covers her, her tummy like
it starts to rain and she's like this covering her forehead.
And then she's changes and covers her little tummy.
And then he comes over and like covers her and I Oh my God, it
was so adorable. Do you remember this moment?
No. I don't actually.
No, then they start kissing in the street and that's when Ani
drives by in her truck and she sees them and she's like, what
the fuck is going on? Like she's like, didn't know
they were dating. Anyway, all this stuff, these
set of episodes were really, again, super powerful.
Curtis, what was your number one?
Then what was your number one? OK, so my number one was the
Shimena. I I thought, you know the Dong
suck and sauna that one, it spans what at least 1520 years
goes back to when they were kids and they had nothing but each
other and they were just drowning in misery.
But they had each other for a week or two.
It wasn't even that long of a time.
But it just, they, the, IT started there where they of
course they loved each other, but they kind of got separated
and didn't see each other for 15 years or something like that.
And they met randomly on Seoul, at Seoul or in Seoul.
And then that lasted a month or so and they were just hanging
out and having fun. But then she, she dumps them on
the beach when he tries to kiss. He's the worst.
He has the worst timing ever of when to kiss someone, but he
tries to kiss her on the beach and she's like, OK, Take Me
Home. I'm done.
And he's like, well, what what I do, what I do.
And then they meet up later in life and he's super mad about
everything, but mad about her too.
And then they slowly and then so in your notes, you have, you
know, what's your favorite scene?
The, the way they portrayed her depression of just symbolically,
everything gets dark for her and she's drowning, you know, in
those moments, just covered in water and, and emotionally
drowning, maybe even physically drowning and dying.
She's literally dying or figuratively dying.
And he gives her a little light. You know, like that, that stupid
little soundtrack he does on the island that that's my favorite
scene where he said, here's something to, to make you laugh.
And he sends it to her and, and it's not again, it's not like
fairy tale where it's like, oh, everything's, everything's
cured. He sent me this crazy little
tape and now I'm cured from depression.
But it wasn't like that. It was a slow burn where she's
coming out of it and it's just the and and it didn't even end
where it was, you know, wedding bells or anything necessarily.
Like she's still digging herself out of her hole, right.
And he's, he's got some issues too, got a ton of issues too to
dig out from. But they, they've had each other
for a couple decades and then they kind of meet up again when
they need each other most. And it kind of works for me.
I, I really like that I picked that as my number one romance
when we did our Valentine's show.
Jess, where you, you submitted your answer to that was mine,
that I picked this, this romance as the Oh yeah, Brandon, you
were on that episode too. But yeah, this is the one I
picked for my it. It's it's a really ugly, messy
relationship, but I I really like the way they did it.
Yeah, this relationship is pretty different than a standard
romance, right, where you have a lot of time in between when they
were kids and they were each other's first loves.
And she has a really bad home life.
He has a horrible home life as well.
And they kind of find each other in the madness and they are each
other's safe haven. And then she leaves.
Like she just, it's just the one that got away, you know what I'm
saying? And the moment that I remember
seeing on TikTok after I had already decided to watch Our
Blues was in episode 4. The episode starts, it's not
about the episode is not about Dong Sok or Shin Mina's
character, but it starts with Shin Mina.
And I was like whoa, this scene of her and intro ING her
depression and her husband being completely over it.
Exasperated with her. He screams at her to go to the
hospital to get treatment and they say depression can be
cured. He complaints about the laundry
and the cleaning of the state of the house.
She counters why doesn't he do it himself?
Why does she have to do all the household chores?
He fires back. She wants him to work and do all
the housework. My blood was boiling like this
scene and then particularly the part where he says she reeks,
that she stinks. And the passage of time thing,
we're just time is this amorphous thing to her.
She's unreachable and she didn't.
She thinks that it's still the morning and it's actually the
evening and she didn't pick up her kid from preschool.
It's the middle of the night. It is a sucker punch, this
introduction to Shimena, and then poof, we don't see her or
hear from her for several episodes as we go into other
storylines and the pregnancy, the teen pregnancy and things
like that crop up. Shimena did an incredible job, I
thought, playing this character and playing a character who
loves her son. Right, like the Depression, she
doesn't take away the fact that she loves her son and wants to
provide for her son and be there.
It is impeding her ability to do that.
And her husband is like the worst.
I, like, couldn't get over the fact that he was so, so cold
toward her and almost, like, wouldn't pick up the slack, you
know what I'm saying? Like, if she's struggling and
she's at 10%, OK, you got to do 90, you know what I'm saying?
Like, that's all there is to it. Yeah.
But, you know, it's pretty realistic, though.
Honestly, I-20 you got to do 80 like I sorry, like that's how
life works. So he just was not willing to, I
don't know how. How did you?
If I was to play devil's advocate, because Jenny and I
talked about this a lot and we have some experience with
depression and anxiety disorder, one thing that the show doesn't
clarify for us is how long she has been in that state of
depression. And so I want to be, I, I try to
be sympathetic to the husband's character if this had happened,
you know, initially and he just wasn't willing to pitch in.
Totally understand he's being unhelpful.
But they're obviously parents to this young child.
And what happens when it goes six months, one year, you know,
two years? And he does make the comment,
like, can you at least go get treatment?
So it seems like she wasn't taking the necessary steps to
get better, at least how that's how I took it.
And so I kind of understood his frustrations.
If you're not going to pick up, if you told me you're going to
pick up the kid and you did it, like now you're putting our son
in danger. And I'm obviously happy that she
goes on her mental health journey and she goes to the
countryside and, and finds her shine her her light, as you
mentioned, Curtis and Yi Byung on.
But you know, she also had to have been a, a, a parent to her
son. And I think the dad was thinking
for the sun's safety first, so I I wanted to just give him a
little bit of slack when I watched the.
Show and I think there were two things that didn't let me take
my foot off his neck. So the one thing was he knew.
Sorry, maybe there's a better way to say that.
But one thing was he knew about her depression from the jump
before he even married her when they were dating, he knew knew
about her depression. That's true.
And I don't know if that played into their breakup initially,
because when he she met Ebogan's character however many years ago
and they went joyriding, they were on the outs.
They had broken up. So who knows?
They don't say like why they broke up, but to me that says,
OK, I'm signing up. You know, I'm for better, for
worse, You know what I'm saying? Like, that is a promise and he
knew it's not like it this cropped up later and he's got
to, you know, adjust. And second of all, I think that
what played into her losing custody was the accident, the
traffic, the car accident that happened.
And he blamed her for that accident.
When I watch it back, I don't think she was at fault at all.
Like she got cut off and ran into the car and I was like, how
is that her fault that she got cut off in traffic?
Like, you know what I'm saying? Like I'm like, where's where's
the fault that she was like, how is this playing into like she
was depressed and like ran into a car that didn't scream.
She needs to lose custody because she picked up the kid.
She was being responsible. The kid was strapped into the
sea. If there were other
circumstances, like it was a different kind of accident and
she was at fault where the kid wasn't in a seat belt or
something like that, like that would have signaled to me, yeah,
the kid is unsafe with her. But for all intents and
purposes, this was a pretty bad traffic accident that she was
not at fault for. And then he takes it upon
himself to initiate this really ugly custody battle.
Jess, did you rewatch the episodes recently 'cause I, I, I
didn't. So your memory might be better
than mine on the show. So I just watched them.
Wasn't there a scene where they ask the son like his opinion on
the mom and the dad and I forget the answers he gives and I
forget what he says about the? Mom, do you remember?
He says he calls his dad. Oh, my dad's like a friend.
He calls him friend and then he's they ask him his opinion on
the mom and he says, oh, mom is sick.
So he just thinks that she is sick, not that she is, you know,
mom, she's great. Whatever.
Some other verbiage that would have passed in the courts for
her to get custody. Just him knowing that she was
struggling was I guess a strike against her.
So and what was terrible again, was during that custody battle,
she the husband was bringing up. It was like us mini microcosm of
marriage story. Have you seen that movie story
with that ugly custody battle between Scarlett Johansson and
No No. I haven't seen it about the
other story, yeah. There's the other one too.
Kramer versus Kramer. Yeah, so good.
Right, the original. Yeah, so it's the same thing
basically where it all comes out, but it's not the whole
truth. So the husband and saying, oh,
she didn't pick up the kid, she didn't do this, she didn't do
that. And she's like, OK, I didn't
pick up the kid on one day, but I pick him up 364 other days out
of the year. Like I'm doing well all the
other times. And I didn't play with him maybe
three or four times out of the month, but I play with him all
the other days, like out of the month and so on and so forth.
Like all of these strikes against her are like a small
percentage of the time that she is full time caregiving for her
son that she is out of Commission or unable to care for
him. So it was enough.
Well, you know, honestly, though, I, I, I think the courts
probably made the right call in this case, like just purely
speaking, safety of the child. I, I think they probably made
the right choice. Even though we like Shima, you
know, we, we know she's going through a lot.
We like her, you know, we like her character.
There's obviously some room for compassion, but the bottom line
is like, which parent? Which would he be more safe
with? And it isn't about emotion.
At that point. The court has to make a decision
on the welfare of the child physically, you know, just keep
the kid alive. And so they probably made the
right choice, though we could all see that in the long run,
you know, who's who's going to love him more?
We know the mom would, but. I also thought it was funny that
they were asking the dad like, OK, who's going to do this?
Who's going to cure a gift while you're at work?
And he's like, oh, my parents are.
And they're, So she's like, OK, so you're not going to cure a
gift for him. Your parent, your elderly
parents are going to be raising him while you're working and
who's going to pick him up from school and all this stuff.
And it was never him. It was always his parents.
No. But in Korean culture, that's in
Korean culture, that's very, that's the standard, almost like
my generation of kids, like there's AI have a lot of friends
who are closer to their grandparents than their parents
just because that was the all families live together and the
parents help out. So I I didn't think that was
that weird. That's pretty common in Korea.
And and shame and I had no one. You know, she has no parents.
I'm not. Saying it's weird because I got
picked up every day after school for my with my grandparents.
What I'm saying is if it's between aging grandparents or
his mother, like you know what I'm saying?
Like they were asking questions. Have to work full time though.
Pointed questions about like, who is going to raise him, who
is going to be caregiving? And it was not him.
Yeah. So it it was hard.
But they asked her too and and she didn't have anyone.
She was like, I was going to. She's going to have to work full
time, so someone else. I can do this and pick him up
and all this stuff. So yeah, it was going to she was
going to be single mom in it. Anyway, Long story short, this
storyline was harsh. And then you add in the love
story that she like, doesn't love him Ebiungun's character at
first, but she grows to love him and need him.
So I really like that. And her meeting his mom at the
end, I was like, like, I was like in tears.
Yeah, they just, it is written so well, you know, like it just
at that moment, he has to make up with his mom just in time,
just within a day, right. To to make it.
Work what I liked about their relationship and especially when
Thong Suk is there for when she loses custody, right?
Which is devastating for any parent, I'm sure.
Yeah. She sobs uncontrollably for
hours, she won't eat or drink and she and he gets fed up.
Like he tells her she should do her best to gird up, prepare
herself for the appeal and not wallow in self pity.
And she's devastated at the this horrible thought that her son
might hate her and probably doesn't want to be around her
etcetera. And she basically says that she
just can't help it. It's how she is.
And instead of criticizing her like her husband did, just leave
her be, leave her to her own devices and how she processes
things. He ends up asking her questions
about her depression. What does it feel like?
And he starts consoling her. When did it start?
And she says it started when her dad committed suicide by driving
himself into the ocean. Like wildness, more wildness for
these back stories. It's trauma upon trauma.
You could say it's generational trauma.
And the next morning, he ponders more about his own circumstances
and his own relationship with his mom, meaning he's wondering
if his mother struggled with depression.
He wonders if she ever loved him because she neglected him.
And just as he told Shimena's character to just call up her
son and ask him how he feels about her, Shimena tells him he
should ask his mom outright. Instead of avoiding the problem
and burying your worries by ignoring the person scared of
what they'll say, he should talk to her.
And she says she went through a whole crisis of hating her
father, wondering why he never said that he was having a hard
time, wondering if he loved her at all.
And she concluded that he did love her, but life is just
terrible and it beat him down. And then she felt guilty for
seeing him Rage Against life, being a violent alcoholic and
never asking him what was wrong, why was he so mad or sad.
And she tells him to talk to his mom or risk living in regret.
That you could have done more, said more, probed more so.
That circles back. That's like an earlier episode.
Then we hit episodes like 18/19/20 and this circles back
around right with his relationship with his mom and
him finally asking some tough questions to her.
And I guess we can wrap, we can wrap up with this story.
Is that does that sound good? I think so.
The last storyline that we're going to talk about is Thong
suck with his mother. And I mean, this relationship
and these set of episodes is tough because you, I mean, I
keep saying it's tough, but I felt.
Look the mom. Is so freaking detached and
disassociated like she's just spaced out.
And I thought I kept thinking like maybe she has something
like maybe he's right like maybe she has some sort of mental
illness that she's struggling with.
And I could never like put my finger on it.
I was like, she's the way she is looking around like I was, I was
like, where is she? She's not there.
Like I couldn't figure it out, couldn't get past it because the
flashbacks were so visceral. We're super visceral of her
slapping him multiple times because she needs she he he
needs to call her aunt instead of mother and her getting
married within a month of the husband dying and all this stuff
like it's. Or not even married, right?
Just. Becoming a YEAH and taking care
of care of a sickly woman for 515 years, the wife for 15
years. I was livid for him and I could
see why he was so angry. Yeah.
No, it's it's. So rough, it's so rough.
So how did you guys feel about this and did you guys have
thoughts on the mom and his reaction to her and the final
moments with him and the trip that they take?
Well, yeah, I mean, she, she comes across as so frail and so
weak. And everyone's like, why are
you? Why are you so mean to her?
You know, why don't you take care of her?
She look at her, she's so little.
And then you find out why. And it's like, oh, it's, it's,
it's, yeah, there's layers upon layers in this drama.
And they do a good job of. And like, again, there's no
winners. You know, it's just like, yeah,
you're not totally wrong to hate this person, but you know, you
gotta do what you need to do sometimes to, to mend these
relationships. So.
There's a shit show that happens in Mokpo because they go to the
step dads memorial service. I was like going like this, like
I wanted to flip a table and I wanted to not go to that
memorial service as much as he did or did not want to go
because why the fuck would he? Would you want to go to that
guy's memorial service and see the brothers again?
And it ended up being even let like only one brother was there
was that brother was there. None of the grandkids, step
grandkids were there even. And yeah, EB Young's character
is indignant. He's crass.
It ignites this fight between him and the abusive stepbrother
who beat him to bits when they were younger.
And the and the mom comes through.
Actually says. Shame him.
Finally. Finally.
Finally that he because the stepbrother starts blaming him
for the death of the dad. And I was like, whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa. Then the mom comes through.
Yeah, the dad was a knuck. 30 years too late.
She's defending him and saying no, your dad was an alcoholic
who got drunk and hurt himself after you sold off his boats and
basically lost his fortune. Wasn't we're in the process of
losing his fortune? Not that measly $20,000 that my
son stole that had nothing to do with why he ended up basically
bedridden for the rest of his life or something and died.
So the mom sticks up for him and sets things straight with facts
and tells the fan that there's nothing her son should be
apologizing for. And she's super agitated all of
a sudden because she's so passive the rest of the show.
And you're so surprised. You're thinking at this point
you're thinking we're going to get some more When he confronts
her and our starts asking her shit, she's going to apologize
or she's going to say something really profound.
Brandon and Curtis when he asked her why didn't you ever
apologize to me? It seemed like you were aware of
how difficult my life was because of you.
Do you even feel sorry? Do you really feel sorry about
how you mistreated me and hurt me?
She says Why should I feel sorry about you?
And I nearly shut off the TVI was like, Oh no, no, no, no, no,
we're back to square one. We're back to square one.
Because I genuinely still can't understand why she wouldn't
apologize. He's asking for it.
He's confronting her directly and she's still like, I can't
think of anything I need to apologize for.
She just said all that shit in front of those people.
It was mind boggling. It was mind boggling to me.
It was bothering me. I think maybe, maybe in her mind
she's like, well, I kept you alive.
Look, you're still alive. You know, a bare minimum of
mothering is keep your kid from dying.
And she did that. I think that's right, Curtis.
And, you know, not everyone becomes a mother by because they
want to for some people it it that that's the the cards that
they're dealt. And she, I think you mentioned
this earlier, Curtis, she did what she had to do to get
herself by and make sure that her son had a roof over his
head. Yes, I'm sure it hurt her.
Maybe, maybe not seeing her kid get beat, but at least he got
some meals, you know, had a house and and she is not
educated, right. I don't think she even went to
school. So honestly, how can you really,
you know, she she did what she could.
I think. I, I thought that was a really
raw moment because between IB Young on and the mom, they're
saying, I don't owe you any apologies.
But externally she still defended him against the
brothers, which I thought was nice.
I was confused because she still has this feels this pull toward
this family that did not appreciate her, did not love
her, treated her like shit, treated her son even worse.
And she's still like, let me go over there and run this memorial
service and bring them food and go to their weddings and and I
was like, she treated that family so well.
And in my mind, I'm like for what?
Like to what end? Like there was nothing there, no
blood like there, You know what I'm saying?
Like I was confused about their sure loyalty to them and her
lack of loyalty to her son. And absolutely I felt way less
angry at her when you put it in perspective that she was a
simpleton. She had no education, she was
illiterate, literally into her. She was imminently dying of
cancer and she was still learning her AB CS, very
infantile of a personality. And she had this survivalist
mentality where she was just like, I just need to eat.
I just need a roof over my head. I just need this.
I just need that. And despite all that, I was
like, OK, but now he's an adult. You don't need to do shit for
him. And he is.
You know he's hurt. He went no contact for years.
You know he's hurt. That's your blood, Sun.
Why would you not say I'm sorry like I did the best I could?
Yeah. I know.
She's just said why would I feel like it was such the wording as
well? Like I'm sure it was a
translation but I was like, this is the worst thing you could
possibly say. Yeah.
As well, so it was a lot of things at play.
Yeah, unless there, unless her, her unless her long game was OK,
let me show up at this memorial service and finally tell these
people off in front of my son. Unless that was her long game,
which I don't know if that was. I mean, it worked out that
that's how it turned out. But yeah, I don't know why she
would it. Literally made no sense to me.
OK, anyway, well. I think Korea is just very big
on tradition, especially when it, you know, there is the the
mothers doing air quotes, you know, responsibilities.
And I think there's also a concept in Korea called Chung.
It just means that when you've spent enough time with someone,
even if you're not related, you just develop some type of bond.
And so my thought was she just spent so many years with this
family and she was technically the, the matriarch, I guess of
that immediate family. You know, she still needed to do
her, her duties every year. And so I, I didn't think too
much of that to be honest. OK, Yeah, I don't think I've
spoken about Chung. Maybe in the My Mr. episode
Chung came up, but yeah, I again, this is the level one of
Chung versus level 10. Maybe because there I they hated
her like they they were like, why are you here?
Why did you call like, Oh my God, it was the worst.
It was the worst. I she was so unloved and then
she still went back to it was like bad habit.
It was like a bad habit. Anyway, she dies.
It is awful. The no music when she passes was
a powerful choice to me. And then he decides to lie next
to her and hugs her body and cries and calls her mom over and
over again. Something that he refused to do
throughout the show was call her mom.
And the voiceover just like is like a nice little bow.
Wraps it up real nicely. She never said she loved me or
that she was sorry. My mom, Kangak Song, made a bowl
of my favorite food, Donjiang soup, a Sue.
Then she returned to where she used to be.
I hugged my dead mom's body and cried.
That's when I realized something.
I had never resented her my entire life.
I just wanted to embrace and reconcile with her.
I just wanted to hug her for a very long time and cry as much
as I wanted. And I was like, he just wanted
his mom. And she was always like, I'm not
your mom. I'm your aunt.
And I'm like, we're not going to unpack this like this.
You know what I'm saying? Like.
She. Wanted it, but didn't want it.
Yeah, well, so he's got, he's got time.
He was. He's heartbreaking faggot.
The next heartbreaking 70 years. Anyway, I love the show and I'm
so glad that both of you love the show and we're into doing
this episode with me and covering, I think most of the
storylines, if not, no, I think a couple of them were left off,
but that's fine. We did pretty.
Good. I think we did pretty good.
Yeah, we did most of that. Two hours later, but.
That's fine. Thanks, Lee.
If listeners, if you're still listening, thanks for sticking
it out man. We appreciate it.
Do you guys? So real quick the storyline that
I hate, I've not hated, but that I disliked the most was actually
the umjong and unis storyline. I thought that one was the
weakest but I'm curious like which one did you guys like the
least? So that one hit me like a ton of
bricks because I was the unni in a relationship when I was
growing up and I had a friend who looked like Pocahontas and
she was the in the relationship and it it hit me like a ton of
bricks. I I felt deeply for that
relationship. So it's personal to you.
Yeah, so I. I mean, it wasn't bad, but it
yeah, it wasn't this, no. Compared to everything, you're
kind of like, but yeah, it's deep.
It was deep and it's real for for me, maybe for a lot of
people. But yeah.
So thank you guys again for coming on and for coming on for
a really long time to talk about this show.
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