1 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,160 I'm Jessica and this is Tiba K Rambles, where a couple of 2 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,240 friends review Korean dramas and welcome back to another episode. 3 00:00:25,240 --> 00:00:29,760 We are going to review our Blues today and for this episode I am 4 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,840 joined by Curtis from Infatuation Podcast. 5 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,120 Hey, Curtis, how are you? Hey, Jess, how's it going? 6 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,160 It's going well. Welcome back. 7 00:00:38,160 --> 00:00:39,600 Welcome. Back, yeah. 8 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:45,320 And I also have Brandon from the Poacher Playlist podcast. 9 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,000 How are you, Brandon? I'm doing well, thank you for 10 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,120 the invitation. It's my first time on here. 11 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,800 You did an episode with Jenny from Poach a Playlist a few 12 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,040 episodes back, maybe one or two years ago. 13 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,400 I think that was on Goblin, right? 14 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,560 Yeah, we did Goblin and then she came back and we did your 15 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,200 beautiful that throwback and that was a lot of fun. 16 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,320 So I am so glad that you were keen to join for Our Blues 17 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,240 because I'm told that you really love Our Blues. 18 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,480 And the same goes for you, Curtis, that you are both fans 19 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,160 of this show and could bring a lot to the table, maybe a lot of 20 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,240 context. And just we're glad to talk 21 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,200 through this show. And this was my first time 22 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,280 watching this show. So I was like, I need people 23 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,080 who, you know, have been kind of simmering in this already and 24 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:34,920 I'm super excited to get to get going on this really quick. 25 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,080 What are you guys watching recently and what are you guys 26 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,000 enjoying in the Asian drama world? 27 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,440 If if you guys don't mind just kind of sharing what's on your 28 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,400 plate right now? Poach a playlist just finished 29 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,080 reviewing Midnight romance in Haguan that has we ha Jun in his 30 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,360 first leading role in a romance that was great and we are going 31 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,360 to be wrapping up a typical family. 32 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,240 That's a drama that me and my Co host Andy. 33 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,240 We really like that drama for this year. 34 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:04,680 I think we're going to rank it pretty well. 35 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,479 Yeah, same. I I just finished an episode on 36 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:15,240 a or an atypical family. I loved it as well and actually 37 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,760 currently, for better or for worse, I am watching Miss Day 38 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,600 and Nights. Miss day and nights. 39 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,000 Some actors from yeah, from our Blues. 40 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,520 There's a couple actors from our Blues in there, so yeah, I won't 41 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,360 give any opinions on that one just yet. 42 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,720 We got a couple more weeks on that one. 43 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:36,040 OK yeah, I did a big poll the other day on my Instagram 44 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,760 stories to see what people were feeling. 45 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,800 We are just past the halfway mark in 2024. 46 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,600 See what people are feeling about the best dramas of 2024. 47 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,960 And overwhelmingly people were saying an atypical family was 48 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,560 their favorite drama. Was the best drama of 2024, 49 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:58,160 followed by Lovely No no lovely runner I think. 50 00:02:58,640 --> 00:03:01,560 Lovely runner, yeah. Yeah, those two were the top two 51 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,560 of the year. Pocha Pocha approved that one. 52 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,040 Yeah, I know, I know. So this is exciting. 53 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,600 I can't wait to get going. But before we do, if this is 54 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,840 your first time listening, go ahead and subscribe on your 55 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,720 favorite podcast app. We're on Apple Podcast, Spotify 56 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,440 and many more. And if you like us, give us a 57 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,560 review on Apple Podcast and Spotify. 58 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,360 That goes a long way and come check us out on social media to 59 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,600 stay up to date on our latest episodes and reviews. 60 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:31,080 You can find us on Instagram, Facebook, and TikTok at Tibac 61 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,080 Pod. 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Yeah, so here we go then. 76 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,400 I put together this like Frankenstein of a Netflix slash 77 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,280 Wikipedia synopsis and here it is really quick. 78 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,280 Romance is sweet and bitter and life riddled with ups and downs 79 00:04:30,280 --> 00:04:33,160 in multiple stories about people who live and work on bustling 80 00:04:33,280 --> 00:04:35,720 Cheju Island. The series revolves around the 81 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,040 sweet and bitter lives of people at the end, climax or beginning 82 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,840 of life and depicts their stories in an omnibus format, 83 00:04:42,280 --> 00:04:45,840 which is basically telling stories of diverse characters 84 00:04:45,840 --> 00:04:48,360 that are somewhat interconnected in one way or the other. 85 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:53,240 So Our Blues aired from April to June 2022. 86 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,960 I kind of feel that this, especially in terms of the 87 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:02,680 international K drama audience, this show was underrated, flew 88 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,040 under the radar for everybody. I think people were still 89 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,280 reeling from 2521, which had just finished airing in this 90 00:05:09,280 --> 00:05:12,200 same time slot. Then Our Blues started. 91 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:17,120 People were still all about 2521 and about the end famous ending 92 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,120 on that show. And then after Our Blues 93 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:24,880 finished airing, it was preceded by Alchemy of Souls, which the 94 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,720 international audience ate up with gusto. 95 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:29,840 So. And coincidentally, both of 96 00:05:29,840 --> 00:05:32,480 those shows have episodes on the 10 box feed if you want to 97 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,840 scroll back and listen to those. But I feel really badly about 98 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:40,280 Our Blues, especially when it comes to its reception 99 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,920 internationally, because I don't feel like I kind of got a chance 100 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:50,600 to really get there, you know? It's 20 episodes long, so it's a 101 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,280 little longer than I think people maybe nowadays, 102 00:05:53,280 --> 00:05:55,880 especially new arcade drama fans are used to, but that is 103 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,520 traditional format, 20 episodes long, so it's nice to see. 104 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:05,440 Directed by Kim Kitay, he's directed a long list of dramas, 105 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,320 including A Love to Kill from O Five. 106 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:13,440 That's with Shimina, Worlds Within, Iris with Eve, Young 107 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:14,880 Gun. When I saw Iris on there, I was 108 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,600 like, oh. Yeah, yeah. 109 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,400 Iris Bro Padam Padam, which is with Hanjimin. 110 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:26,120 All of these actors are in our Blues that winter. 111 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,240 The wind blows with Choin Song and Song Akio. 112 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,880 He won best director at the 49th Beck Song Awards on this drama. 113 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,280 He directed It's all right, This is love from 2014, which is one 114 00:06:38,280 --> 00:06:40,800 of my favorite dramas. Super good drama. 115 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,520 Secret love, moon lovers, scarlet heart Rio, which we 116 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,840 covered at the end of last season, season 4 bed buck feed. 117 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,840 If you want to go back and listen to that, he covered, he 118 00:06:51,840 --> 00:06:57,080 directed Liv and he will be directing The Trunk, which is a 119 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,120 Netflix show airing sometime this year with Kong Yu as the 120 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,480 star. So that's Kim Kyute, I think 121 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,920 very, very decorated and well regarded director. 122 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,560 He's been around for a minute or two and he's worked with some 123 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,400 top talent. Do you guys like this director? 124 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,000 Do you like his stuff? I haven't watched a ton of his 125 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,720 stuff, to be honest. So yeah, just looking at this 126 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,120 list, I don't think I've watched any of these all the way 127 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,760 through. Oh, OK. 128 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,000 Besides, besides our Blues, yeah. 129 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,200 Unfortunately I can't say that I've seen any of these titles, 130 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,560 but I do know that like Moon Lover, Scarlet Heart, that's 131 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,200 super popular so that's always been on my list. 132 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,000 I might have to check it out. OK, Godspeed. 133 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:46,080 The show Our Blues was the show Our Blues was written by Noi 134 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,360 Kyung. She's been writing dramas since 135 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,840 the 90s, so this is just a few of the dramas that she's 136 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,680 written. Her beautiful story from O 4 137 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,560 this stars Koh Duchim. She's one of the one of the 138 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,120 actresses in our Blues world's within Padam Padam that one of 139 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:04,960 the wind blows. It's all right. 140 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,080 This is this is love. Four of the same dramas that the 141 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,320 director has directed. So she's worked with the 142 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,400 director basically five times before our Blues. 143 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:21,560 And then Dear My friends from 2016, she wrote with Kim Hee JA, 144 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,920 which is the terminal mom in our Blues. 145 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,120 This show won best screenplay at the 53rd Bexhung Awards. 146 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:36,039 So really, really decorated and and you know, she's been around 147 00:08:36,039 --> 00:08:40,360 for a while. Screenwriter pretty well tested, 148 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,679 I would say. And in looking at this, I have 149 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:48,200 watched Padam Padam, or at least I watched maybe like half of it. 150 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,560 And then I kind of got a little sidetracked with another drama 151 00:08:51,560 --> 00:08:54,720 or whatever. And I and I basically dropped it 152 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,120 out of like I watched something else and then I never went back 153 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,360 to it. But it wasn't like an 154 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,040 intentional drop, you know what I'm saying? 155 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,640 Like there's a difference between a life happened and I 156 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,840 watched something else. And like, yeah, I didn't 157 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,320 necessarily hate it. I would say that's a very 158 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:13,200 spiritually, very similar to our Blues. 159 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,160 Not that it's the same format, omnibus format with a lot of 160 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,680 different interconnected stories, but I would say Eben's 161 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:23,520 character is very similar to the male lead in Padam Padam. 162 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,920 So when I heard, when I saw that she had written that, I was like 163 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,320 both of the director and writer had worked on that. 164 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,040 I was like, oh, that makes too much sense. 165 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:35,920 So if you want something along those lines, check it out. 166 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,960 And then we're going to get into this cast. 167 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,320 So here we go. We're only going to we're going 168 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:46,320 to talk about a handful of people in this cast at length 169 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,080 and then. We're because there's like 50 of 170 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,680 them. I want to get this out there. 171 00:09:50,680 --> 00:09:56,080 This is an All Star cast. This is a well regarded 172 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,120 decorated cast. OK? 173 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:04,160 Every one of these people has been on TV screens, has worked 174 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,440 with each other as well as the director and the writer before, 175 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:16,720 and it's all intertwined and there's a lot of history coming 176 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,160 into the show and putting together. 177 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:23,280 This is like Avengers Assemble here and going through and 178 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:29,760 making this spreadsheet, I would say for this cast felt like 179 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,320 making before End Game. It was like, Oh my God, we had 180 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,960 to have watched all this stuff beforehand to get like the 181 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,680 gravity of this movie. That's what it felt like making 182 00:10:40,680 --> 00:10:44,920 this. My sister called it flash cards 183 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,600 when she saw what this looked like in here, 'cause it's like 184 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:52,160 their photo, the name of the character, their name, 185 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,000 everything. So here we go. 186 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,960 Eviogan plays Idung Sok, a truck merchant who was born in Chechu. 187 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:04,800 He has been in about 36 movies, including most recently Concrete 188 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,320 Utopia. He's been in an emergency 189 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:12,360 declaration, the Fortress. He played the T1000 in 190 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,320 Terminator Genesis. Matt, you're already laughing 191 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,520 Memories of the Sword from 2015, which I really liked that movie 192 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,080 for some reason. I watched it and was like, whoa, 193 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,360 this is mind blowing. And I tried to get it like in my 194 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,560 own personal collection of Blu rays, Masquerade from 2012, 195 00:11:29,560 --> 00:11:31,720 which is an excellent, excellent movie. 196 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,440 It is the inspiration for the show The Crowned Clown. 197 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:40,840 Again, excellent show. So a lot of movies here going 198 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,560 even further back, I saw the Devil from 2010. 199 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,640 I recently saw this movie. And then I did experience a 200 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:50,400 little bit of Satan in this movie watching it. 201 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:57,040 He won the Day Song the grand prize in 2011 at the Beck Song 202 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,480 Awards for his role in I Saw the Devil. 203 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,840 Totally deserved. He was in Iris the movie. 204 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,560 This is back when the Cage dramas. 205 00:12:04,560 --> 00:12:07,360 If they were so successful, they would do multiple seasons. 206 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:08,680 They made a sequel. Rare. 207 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,880 Then they would do another sequel that was a movie. 208 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,000 So this was where this was like the High School Musical 209 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,640 blueprint where it was like High School Musical, High School 210 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:20,520 Musical two and then High School Musical three was in theaters of 211 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,240 theatrical release. That's Iris the movie. 212 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:29,000 So other movies like Joint Security Area, Hero, Good Bad, 213 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:34,280 the weird, tons of things. He's got nearly 26 credits from 214 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,680 television. Squid Game is most recent. 215 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,960 I think he was frontman Mr. Sunshine. 216 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,680 Iris again. I bring up Iris because he won 217 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:48,360 Best actor at the 2010 Beck Song Awards for his role in Iris. 218 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,280 I have to be honest, I did not finish Iris when I first watched 219 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:54,160 I. Haven't seen it either. 220 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,480 Yeah, but yeah. Love Mr. Sunshine. 221 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,240 Love Squid Game. Yeah, he's he's classic. 222 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,800 Yeah, he's great. Classic classic K drama and film 223 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,840 actor. He I kind of consider him more 224 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,880 of a film actor, but how do you guys feel about EBO Nunn? 225 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,040 I I just love him but. I I definitely consider him a 226 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,800 film actor and I saw The Devil as one of my favorite horror 227 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,640 movies. And I have a great memory. 228 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,440 My my mom and I were visiting Korea and she was like, oh, 229 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,120 there's a new young movie do you want to go watch? 230 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,160 And I was like, Are you sure? She's like, yeah, it's young and 231 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,760 we got to go watch it. But she doesn't. 232 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,280 She didn't know what it was going to be about you. 233 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:30,440 Were like 12? How old were you? 234 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,240 You saw this with your mom. Yeah, I was around that age. 235 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,560 Yeah, but she, she didn't know what it was going to be about. 236 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:39,680 And and Chiming Chick is one of my favorite actors and hers as 237 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:41,360 well. He plays the the villain in the 238 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,280 movie, but her, her, her, you know, her face was in her hands 239 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,040 the entire time. But I loved it. 240 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:53,080 I thought it was great. Oh God it's so concerning like 241 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,920 the whole movie is. Yeah. 242 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,080 Pins and needles. Anyway, highly recommend, 243 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:04,240 definitely highly recommend it. And actually I have a a poll up 244 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,120 on the on the Patreon feed because there's a bunch of 245 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,240 movies that I've I'm looking to cover maybe, but I can't cover 246 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,880 them all for spooky season, which is coming up really fast. 247 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:16,400 And that's one of the movies that's on there. 248 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,160 I don't know if people realize like what it is. 249 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,200 And I'm really terrified to rewatch it, but I'll do it. 250 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,120 I'll do it for the pod. You know what I'm saying? 251 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,760 Like I'll brave it again. I'll do it for the pod. 252 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,080 So his mother in the show is played by Kim. 253 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:38,600 Hey JA, she plays Kangok Thong is the name of her character. 254 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:44,200 This woman is prolific. She's the first and only person 255 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,160 to have won the Tea Song four times at the Back Song Arts 256 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:54,760 Awards in 7989, 2009 and 20/19. She was on a recurring Almost 257 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,040 Like Days of Our Lives, but the show was called Country Diaries 258 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,000 in which she appeared for 22 years. 259 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:06,160 And this is notable because it made her a household name and it 260 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,880 cemented her image among the South Korean audience as an 261 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:14,000 iconic, unconditionally loving and self sacrificing mother. 262 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:20,720 Which comes into play because Our Blues that is called into 263 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:25,960 question that whole persona that she has built over the course of 264 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:30,240 her career playing amazing strong mothers. 265 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,800 She's been in five move only 5 movies and one of them is mother 266 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,760 from 2009. This is a very famous Bong Joon 267 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:42,320 Ho movie that Bong Joon Ho like famously was like I wouldn't 268 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:47,440 have created like I went after her to play this character and 269 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,680 it took years for her to agree to do it. 270 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,280 And I wouldn't have done it if it if she didn't play the title 271 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,360 character. And she was the first because of 272 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,800 this movie. She was the first actress to be 273 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,920 named best actress by the LA Film Critics Association. 274 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:05,320 It was so impactful I'd highly recommend watching it. 275 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,560 Plus one bin plays her son in the movie. 276 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:14,120 She's been in 90 plus TV dramas. If you if you look online I 277 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,160 think Wikipedia has it all. Asian Wiki doesn't have it all, 278 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:22,800 but she's been acting since the 60s and some things I know her 279 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:27,160 from are Princess Hours is the number one thing that I know her 280 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,560 from. She's the Queen Mother. 281 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,640 That's 2006. I loved her in that. 282 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,120 I thought she was so precious and she's been in things like 283 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,640 Dear My Friends from 2016 and then she was in The Light in 284 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,880 Your Eyes in 2019 with Hanji Min. 285 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:49,040 Also in our Blues. She won the grand prize, the 286 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:53,480 song for this role that she did in The Light in Your Eyes at the 287 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,560 55th Bexhang Awards. So she is really, really 288 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,280 decorated, really well known and I don't think international 289 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:05,319 audiences necessarily get the the big thing of putting her in 290 00:17:05,319 --> 00:17:10,319 this role opposite Ebiogan. Yeah, definitely not in this 291 00:17:10,319 --> 00:17:12,119 role. Definitely not Mom of the Year. 292 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,440 For this. Character that she's playing, 293 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:20,319 but yeah, she's great in this, you know, you feel for her. 294 00:17:20,319 --> 00:17:22,599 Yeah, she does a lot to you in this in this one. 295 00:17:22,599 --> 00:17:26,079 She does a lot to you exactly like she manhandles us. 296 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,240 She, she will make you feel, yeah. 297 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:29,920 She will make you feel something, yeah. 298 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,880 Yeah, So following her up, we got Shin Mina. 299 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:38,320 She plays Min so Na, a single parent with a child who came to 300 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:42,360 Jeju and works with Yi Dong Sok. I don't think that's necessarily 301 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,800 right. That's one like Wikipedia, but 302 00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:46,520 let's keep it vague. That's fine. 303 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:52,320 That's fine, fine. She's been in 15 movies, 304 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,800 including A Bittersweet Life from 2005. 305 00:17:55,160 --> 00:18:00,000 This is a reunion for her and EB Yungun because EB Yungun and her 306 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,720 starred in A Bittersweet Life together. 307 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:07,400 Yes, so very famously. And then she's also been in 15 308 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,920 TV shows. Everyone knows her from hometown 309 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,080 Cha Cha Cha. In 2021, that was a beloved 310 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,880 pandemic show. She's in chief of staff seasons 311 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,320 1:00 and 2:00 Tomorrow with You, Oh my Venus Arang and the 312 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,120 Magistrate. My girlfriend is a Kumio, so on 313 00:18:24,120 --> 00:18:28,280 and so forth, but she's had a very long career. 314 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:33,440 She's household name as well, and she famously has also dated 315 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,320 chemo bin for I don't know how long. 316 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,360 I really don't know how long they've been dating, but it's 317 00:18:39,360 --> 00:18:42,360 been a really long time. A long time. 318 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,920 Yeah, maybe close to a decade that they've been dating. 319 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,720 So what do you guys feel about Shimena? 320 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,720 Have you guys seen Bittersweet Life? 321 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,400 That was one of the first EB on the movies I've ever seen, no? 322 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,160 Kidding. At the time, I didn't know who 323 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,080 she was. I knew who, you know, I was just 324 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,040 discovering him. But after I rewatched it and I 325 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,400 was like, oh, that's Shimena. Yeah. 326 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,320 Yeah, she's great. You know, I think she's 327 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,120 fantastic. She's great in this role too. 328 00:19:08,120 --> 00:19:11,560 We'll talk about it, but yeah, she stole this drama for me. 329 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,120 Like she really cared. Really. 330 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,760 Oh, that's so nice to hear. So we're going to follow her 331 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:22,960 with E Chungun, who plays Chunguni, the owner of a fish 332 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:27,120 store who has bubbly charm. I didn't write that part. 333 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:32,360 So she's been in 34 movies, including her first movie role 334 00:19:32,360 --> 00:19:39,480 was in Mother 2009 with, yeah, the same Fung Jun Ho movie. 335 00:19:40,120 --> 00:19:43,040 She was I Chung's relative. I don't know, some bit part in 336 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,560 there, I guess. And then she's been in the 337 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:50,120 wailing from 2016. She plays talkies wife. 338 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:55,600 Listen, the wailing. I had to like sit down and like 339 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,560 practice meditative breathing after that. 340 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,320 Like that movie put me in a state. 341 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,640 I don't know why I decided to watch horror movies at like 342 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,400 midnight when I'm trying to fall asleep. 343 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,920 I'm like, yeah, I can press play. 344 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:13,160 I'm like, these are really scary movies and think I'm going to 345 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:18,080 sleep well tonight. And I don't know what possesses 346 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,120 me to do this, but I'm not. It's not just once or twice that 347 00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:23,560 I've done this. And this one I think I did in 348 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,960 December. I watched The Wailing and I had 349 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,640 I, I was wrecked. I mean crazy eyes wrecked after 350 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:36,920 that one I watched. So then she's also been in Okja 351 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,560 from 2017. Do you guys remember Okja? 352 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,360 Of course, Bung Jung Ho, right? Yeah, yeah. 353 00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:49,280 She's in Battleship Island in from 2017, a taxi driver and of 354 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:54,480 course, Parasite from 2019. They did her dirty with a Peach, 355 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,120 Peach fuzz in that movie. She's been. 356 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:05,040 Yeah, she's been in 43 TV shows. I can't tell you what they all 357 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,080 are. We'd be here all day. 358 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,920 But some of them include Weightlifting Ferry Kimbukchu 359 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:17,240 from 20/16/2017 with Jong Nani from the Swag crew. 360 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,440 They are both in our Blues. She was in Tomorrow with you 361 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,160 alongside She Nina Fight for My way while You Were sleeping. 362 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,720 Mr. Sunshine alongside Yves Yungun. 363 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,640 She's been in familiar wife the light in your eyes both with Han 364 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:38,400 Ji Min and Kim Kim Hijab when the camellia blooms with Kole 365 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,880 Duchim. Like all these all these people 366 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,440 have worked together or have like been in the same shows 367 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,520 together. Juvenile justice from 2022. 368 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,160 She's been in daily dose of sunshine and most recently 369 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,840 Curtis Miss Night and day from this year, which I think is 370 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,800 currently airing. Yeah, yes. 371 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:03,600 So she's had a very illustrious, long, long life, as you know, 372 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,760 people's mothers, people's aunts. 373 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:11,800 And I think she's finally getting the the roles that I 374 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,040 would love to see her in that I'm really satisfied seeing her 375 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,960 in. And I love her as an actress. 376 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,080 I always perk up when I see her in a project. 377 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:28,280 Yeah, she's, she's got a toughness to her, but a warmth 378 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,840 and silliness. Yeah, she's she's got a really 379 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,920 wide range. She's fantastic in this one too. 380 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,720 Yes. So one person we wanted to shout 381 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:42,360 out as well was Chasungun, who plays Hansu, and he's related to 382 00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:46,240 her story. He returns to the hometown early 383 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,680 on in the show. He's like in the first three 384 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,760 episodes, basically, and he masquerades as a perfect urban 385 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,080 man. And he is then his first love. 386 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:02,960 He's been in like 30 movies and 14 TV shows, including A Korean 387 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,640 Odyssey and The Greatest Love. I remember seeing him in The 388 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,200 Greatest Love and I was like, Oh my God, it's that ridiculous guy 389 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,000 from The Greatest Love when I saw him in our Blues. 390 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,160 He's quite famous in Korea. So how do you guys feel about 391 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,680 this guy? Did you have have you guys seen 392 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,840 him in other things? Oh, yeah, he's, he's really 393 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,320 famous in Korea 'cause he also is a model. 394 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,040 I mean, if you just, I mean, just clearly look at him see 395 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,840 like Holly is. Yeah. 396 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,000 But I, some of my favorite movies recently have him. 397 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:35,640 So Night in Paradise, he plays an amazing gangster in that a 398 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,160 really fun action series called Tokjun, also known as Believer. 399 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,680 He was in the first and second of those. 400 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,480 And then there was another movie recently called Sinkhole, where 401 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,480 he plays a great character in that movie as well. 402 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,280 So he is. He's a bona fide movie star. 403 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,040 He's a movie star. Yeah, Yeah. 404 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,040 So to follow him up, we got Kimo Bin. 405 00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:00,440 This was oh, he plays PAC Jung Joon, a captain with a direct 406 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:06,640 and warm nature. This is this is his comeback 407 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,560 descriptions. I know these descriptions. 408 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:14,240 His comeback show since he was diagnosed with nasopharyngeal 409 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:19,640 cancer sometime in 2017, which was a bombshell back after 410 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,080 uncontrollably fond in 2016 came out. 411 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,960 Then it was revealed that he was struggling, had been diagnosed 412 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,400 with cancer and he was going to be taking a prolonged break from 413 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,000 acting. So this is his comeback. 414 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:37,600 This was he hadn't done anything since 2016, so this was a big 415 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:43,440 deal for Kim Woobin to reappear and be healthy and look great 416 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,400 and everyone was happy to see him in a show with Shin Min now, 417 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:53,040 which was is his long time love. They were not playing lovers in 418 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,600 our Blues and you might recognize him as well from the 419 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:02,920 airs in 2013. We have an episode on the airs 420 00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:06,080 as well on the Timber Feed if you want to scroll back and 421 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,560 listen. So that that was fun. 422 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,680 He's been in Gentlemen's Dignity and most recently he was in 423 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,760 Black Knight on Netflix show from 2023. 424 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:21,000 So Kimo Bin, I think everyone loves Kimo Bin, but he doesn't 425 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,880 have a long resume like other actors and actresses on that 426 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,560 we've discussed so far that we've covered so far, Yeah, 427 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,040 yeah. Shoulders for days though, like 428 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,000 shoulders from it was coast to coast on this guy. 429 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:40,280 Yeah, he's pretty tall looking and got a good smile on him. 430 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,320 And yeah, people seem to really enjoy Kimovin, but. 431 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,440 Why not? Yeah. 432 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:50,520 Why not Sure. Sure, I think it. 433 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,680 Wait, is he the last one? I think. 434 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:53,720 He's yeah. I think we better. 435 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:55,920 The audience out there was like, Oh my gosh. 436 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,280 That we have agreed to discuss at length. 437 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,160 OK. There are many, many more. 438 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,680 No, there's way more where that came from everybody, but we're 439 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,480 just. Don't mention them. 440 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,800 Yeah. What did you guys think of our 441 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,160 Blues when you first watched it? And if you rewatched it, how did 442 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,480 you guys feel after the rewatch this time around? 443 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,920 Yeah, I agree with you, Jess, that this flew under the radar 444 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,800 from me. I didn't pick it up as it aired. 445 00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:29,360 I picked it up maybe a year later, I think cuz Brandon 446 00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:33,120 recommended it to me. He Brandon said that he really 447 00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:34,560 loved this one and I should check it out. 448 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,120 And I was like, well, if Brandon says I should check it out, I 449 00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:40,400 should watch it. And so I started it and yeah, I 450 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,240 love this kind of drama. I love ensemble casts. 451 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:48,480 I love intertwined stories. I think it may be like we just 452 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,720 talked about the cast and there's a lot of stars in it, 453 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:55,440 but the stars are solid and they're prolific, but they're 454 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,440 not necessarily the kind of stars that you say, oh, I have 455 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,480 to watch that drama because so and so is in it. 456 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:07,600 Like, I don't think for me at least, there's that person for 457 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,560 me that makes me say, oh, I have to watch that drama because so 458 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,960 and so is in it. But once you get started it, it 459 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,360 just sucks you in. The storytelling is fantastic. 460 00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:18,800 Yeah. So I, I, I didn't notice it 461 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,320 right away, but yeah, I picked it up. 462 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,120 It's kind of later after, after hearing other people talk about 463 00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:25,040 it. So it's kind of one of those 464 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,840 dramas, I think. And you liked it? 465 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,280 Absolutely. I liked it. 466 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,280 Yeah. OK. 467 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,360 I'll talk to you more when we get to the ratings. 468 00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:33,440 I'll talk to you more when we. Get to OK, OK, OK. 469 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,880 So, Brandon, let me know what do you think of the show? 470 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,600 Yeah, so for poach a playlist, we we actually picked this title 471 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,120 up. So we watched it from the first 472 00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:45,920 day that it came out. And for me, you know, IB young 473 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,400 Hon is one of the greatest actors. 474 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,440 So there was no way that we weren't going to pick this up. 475 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,440 I mean, this was his venture back into another K drama and 476 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,720 the ensemble cast, as Curtis mentioned, really drew me in. 477 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:05,600 I loved the format where it's a it's set in Chejo and you have 478 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,120 different vignettes, like every two episodes is set on a 479 00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:10,640 different relationship and it's all intertwined. 480 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,200 It's kind of like a anthology and it all kind of ends 481 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,680 perfectly and it just tells this phenomenal story of all of these 482 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,240 great characters played by wonderful actors and actresses. 483 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,600 I mean, what's not to like for a drama like this? 484 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,600 It made me laugh. It made Jenny cry. 485 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,880 There's I don't want to misspeak, but I think this might 486 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,800 be one of the dramas that Jenny and I go back to the most. 487 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:39,000 And it's for specific scenes. Jenny and I will say, Oh my God, 488 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,640 remember that one scene from our Blues off? 489 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,280 We have to go turn it on. And we'll just like, Fast 490 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,560 forward to that one scene and we're like, oh, this is an 491 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,440 amazing, amazing. This is a masterpiece. 492 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,320 And we'll just cycle through that every once in a while. 493 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:56,120 Yeah, I so I didn't pick it up in 2022 when it aired and it 494 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,960 really had nothing to do with anything. 495 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,440 Like I was just watching other things and watching things for 496 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,280 the podcast as well. So, and I have to say, slice of 497 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:11,280 life is not my bag. It takes a lot for me to think, 498 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,640 oh, I need to watch this slice of life show and I need to watch 499 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,520 it right now. Slice of live shows have a long 500 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:21,400 shelf life and so to me, it's never, there's never a sense of 501 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:28,200 urgency to watch it. And for some reason, like I just 502 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,760 never gravitate towards slice of live shows. 503 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,280 It's takes something really special to drag me in and hold 504 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:41,120 my attention. And for some I really enjoy it 505 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,520 and for others I I don't like for famous ones too. 506 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,720 What's a famous slice of life like? 507 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,680 The Reply series is a really famous slice of life set of trio 508 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,560 of shows and for those I only like one of them. 509 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,040 And the most famous one that everyone raves about. 510 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,920 I don't really enjoy it that much. 511 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,960 It was not an enjoyable experience to watch it. 512 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,320 So if there was any hype around our Blues I didn't hear it. 513 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,320 And if if there was anybody speaking nice things about it, I 514 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,440 was like, OK, another good show that I have to put on my 515 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:21,520 extensive watch list of like, hundreds of shows at this point. 516 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,560 Like, it's take a number. You know what I'm saying? 517 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,400 Yeah. Yeah. 518 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,600 So it wasn't until this, you know, late last year when I was 519 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,880 putting together the lineup that I was like, you know what, I 520 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,640 kind of do want to press play on our Blues 'cause I took a closer 521 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,680 look at the cast and I was like, you know what, I kind of I'm 522 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,560 feeling it. I was in the mood. 523 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,400 I've said this before, I'm a mood watcher. 524 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,160 And later on, after I had already put it on the docket for 525 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:56,200 season five of Tabak, I saw a scene of Shimena in the show and 526 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,240 I was like, Oh my God, thank God. 527 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,800 I'm already planning on watching this show because this scene is 528 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,440 tremendous. And I won't say what it is. 529 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,480 I will, I'll say what it is in spoilers, but I was like taken 530 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:15,760 aback by the incredible depth of the scene and the way it was 531 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:21,280 acted and the incredible cruelty from some of the character, the 532 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,520 other character that was playing, playing the scene with 533 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:29,440 her and the subject matter of what the character was, what her 534 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,960 character was going through. And I was like, well, shit, if 535 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,840 that's one character and there's a whole plethora of characters 536 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,320 that the show is about, then absolutely like, sign me up. 537 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,640 Because I run the risk of getting bored when there's so 538 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,360 many characters and it's an ensemble cast. 539 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,960 I don't want to be in it for like one or two people. 540 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,960 And then the rest I'm kind of like, oh, OK, whatever, that's a 541 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,720 fine story. I felt like every story had 542 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,320 merit. Every story was important, every 543 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:07,920 storyline was interesting. And even though some are more 544 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:13,520 like favorites definitely and maybe some made me cry and 545 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:18,080 others didn't, but overall I felt like the stories and the 546 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:22,240 show was super well done. I thought it was brilliant and I 547 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,760 had a wonderful time. I appreciated getting to know 548 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,320 the characters like I was at the end of the show. 549 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,920 I was like, it was an honor to like watch this show and 550 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:38,160 experience this little corner of Teju and, you know, be in this 551 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,240 in their little slice of life, you know, and I think that's the 552 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,400 goal of slice of life. And maybe I'm like, I have too 553 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:49,160 high of a standard for a slice of life where I like want to be 554 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:55,640 so immersed and so honored and in love with every character. 555 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,040 Even if I don't like the character, I'm like, I'm happy 556 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,840 to be here and watching your story. 557 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:05,160 You know what I'm saying? That so many don't meet my 558 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:10,240 standard and I just get bored or I check out at some point and 559 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,960 this one exceeded my expectations. 560 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,280 So from everything like from the way it was shot, it was 561 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,160 stunning. The location, the vistas, 562 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:25,600 everything about Cheju was so beautifully captured. 563 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,240 The music was great, even the stuff that wasn't OST, it was 564 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:37,040 very ratatouille, French music, cooking, playlist type music 565 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,440 that was playing and I was like, this is right up my frickin 566 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,000 alley. The way it was shot again, like 567 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,440 cool handheld shots. They were kind of taking some 568 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:51,400 risks, like they were shots of being in the passenger seat POV 569 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,800 alongside characters. Someone opens a door and the 570 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,680 camera follows them through the door and stuff like that is 571 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,680 really immersive and makes you feel like you're just a family 572 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:08,480 on the wall versus stuff that's a little more static or, you 573 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,280 know, immovable things that feel a little more staged. 574 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:17,000 And this felt like you were in it in the action with them and 575 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,639 walking through the door with them, going into their house 576 00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:23,000 with them, getting in the car with them and things like that. 577 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,679 Really, you know, if you're not paying attention, you you just 578 00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:29,480 feel the effects of it. But that is really difficult to 579 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,239 do, right? Like technically difficult to do 580 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,560 over and over again for 20 episodes over so many different 581 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,360 stories. So really appreciated that 582 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:46,239 attention to detail in the cinematography and I the acting 583 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,639 was so top notch. You know, we have already gone 584 00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:53,440 through a handful of actors, but there's even more that we didn't 585 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,080 go through their phommography and discuss them at length. 586 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,720 But like, honestly, it is a feat just to assemble this amount of 587 00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:04,680 talent. Yeah, no weak links at all. 588 00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:09,120 No weak links and it's all good. Everyone is solid. 589 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:14,920 Everyone is solid and they covered a lot of themes that K 590 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,240 dramas just don't tend to do things. 591 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:25,040 Themes about, you know, disability, themes about mental 592 00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:31,880 illness, mental health, fractured relationships between 593 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:38,600 elderly parents, you know, mother and son and teen 594 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,040 pregnancy. Like, you name it, it's in this 595 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,920 show and they handle it with care. 596 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:50,600 So all that just to say it was a great experience and they they 597 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,480 exceeded my expectation. It was really good, really good. 598 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,000 Held my attention. Do you recommend this to 599 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,360 everyone? Yeah, yeah, I think I would. 600 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:04,280 I mean, caveat not if you're not a slice of life person, if you 601 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,680 maybe don't like small town shows, if you've watched a few 602 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,240 and you're like, I'm not a small town person. 603 00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:13,280 Like take me back to Seoul, maybe don't watch the show. 604 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,840 Like sorry to say, like this is not said in the big city. 605 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:22,440 Let me see, if you're not a fan of anthologies and that sort of 606 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,200 storytelling, perhaps this isn't the show for you. 607 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,360 And especially this one set up per episode. 608 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:36,440 So each episode is focused on a different character and their 609 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,440 journey and it pushes their story forward a little more each 610 00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:43,800 episode. You'll know who it is the story 611 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,440 is about because it is named. This episode title is the 612 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:52,440 characters names. If that's not your bag, perhaps 613 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,440 don't watch. So these are very specific, like 614 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,640 caveats. Don't watch if you don't like 615 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:02,120 this sort of thing. But overall I think that it's a 616 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,400 lovely show, really relaxing at a lot of points and a really 617 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,640 stressful in a lot of points. So something for everybody. 618 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,160 Yeah, not a light watch. Definitely one that you have to 619 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,920 kind of be in the in the mood for and ready for. 620 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:24,680 There's not that one romances several love story arcs, but 621 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,560 some of them are messy and there's a lot of messiness, a 622 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:32,760 lot of sadness in this. There's a lot of sad, the themes 623 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,840 of loss. And you know, if you're a person 624 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,920 that wants instant gratification in your K dramas, this isn't the 625 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,600 K drama for you because you're not going to get the perfect 626 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:50,920 love story that's A to B to C You're going to get A to C, 627 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,680 maybe to D. To gamma you. 628 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,320 Know what I'm saying? Like it like skips around and 629 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:04,200 that's how life is like. You don't get easily digestible 630 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,760 content in this. Yeah. 631 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:13,560 So in that case, if you're if you're looking for that and you 632 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,800 want that in this Seaside K drama, then no, like that's not 633 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,640 what this is. Yeah, I mean, it's intimidating 634 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,840 too. Like if you look at 20 episodes, 635 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,840 like I don't think if I saw it, I don't know if I would turn it 636 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,840 on right away. Like, oh, twenty episodes, 637 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,680 that's a lot. But there are no wasted 638 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,400 episodes. How long did it take you guys to 639 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,480 get through the 20 episodes? Was it easy to binge or did you 640 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,440 find yourself needing to just take some breaks and pauses 641 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,880 because of how heavy some of the subject matter was? 642 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,560 Good question. I think my wife and I did in 643 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,360 about two weeks, I think. So we didn't power through it. 644 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,480 We, we moved pretty steadily. But you know, one a day, maybe 645 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,120 two a day. I'm not going to do six in a 646 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,680 row, you know, something like that. 647 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,840 Yeah, I did the same thing. And that was mostly because I 648 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,800 was working through holiday weekends, family visits, and I 649 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,520 could do two to three a day. And then I would do no episodes 650 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,160 for like 3 days and then I would come in and do one episode and 651 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,200 then two episodes and so on and so forth. 652 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,400 So it was really herky jerky my watching, but theoretically, I 653 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,160 could get through multiple episodes before I got really 654 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,640 sleepy and then had to like, actually go to sleep. 655 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,880 But yeah, I think it was really easy for me to watch the 656 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,840 episodes. I didn't feel like any of them 657 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,040 were a chore at all. And even when I got through a 658 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,480 few episodes that were about a favorite character, I really 659 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,480 resonated with that storyline. And then the next episode is 660 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,120 something new, a new storyline, and we're pushing something else 661 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,480 forward. I was like, oh, let's let's look 662 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,400 at this, let's see this new thing now. 663 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,280 And I was very open to the other stories. 664 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,160 And that's something that I think is a testament to the 665 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,920 writing. It's a testament to the the 666 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:07,040 acting and the way that the ensemble cast has so much 667 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,920 chemistry. And even if you're seeing this 668 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,960 character's story, you've already seen that character, 669 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,960 like throughout the other episodes. 670 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,640 And now you're focusing on like, what's their beef? 671 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:19,880 What is their deal? Why? 672 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,640 Why are they mad? Why are they sad? 673 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,440 Why are they whatever? Why are they the way they are? 674 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:29,880 And it just goes to show that I think in my mind, you have to 675 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:34,320 have good writing, then a good cast, and then everything flows 676 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,200 from there. Yeah, yeah, I agree. 677 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,120 This drama was nominated for a Three Pics Song Awards Best 678 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,160 drama, Best director and best Actor for EB Young. 679 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:51,160 I was taken aback that he didn't win, but I know. 680 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,520 Yeah, but it's OK. This OST. 681 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,040 What did you guys think of this OST? 682 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,800 I mean, as a big BTS fan, I had to support Chimin, who has a 683 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,160 great song on here. I feel bad. 684 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,840 I always forget the other singer on that song because it's it's 685 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,200 like a duet. Oh yeah. 686 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,560 But I I do know. That Chimin is on there Ha Song 687 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,720 Moon is the other singer on the song which is called With You. 688 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:23,200 Yep, and I think some of the Espa girls did a song on this as 689 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,000 well. But overall the soundtrack 690 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:30,600 really fits this Teju vibe and it's out of some of the dramas 691 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,320 that we've seen in the past. I listened to this OST. 692 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,400 Maybe top three, Top five most listen. 693 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:44,360 Oh my gosh, that's so cool. So I forgot that Chimin was on 694 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,480 the OST because I had in the back of mine, I was like, there 695 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,080 was an OST that Chimin was on and everyone was really excited 696 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:55,440 about it. And then the first time I heard 697 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,000 the actual song was in the context of the show. 698 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,400 And I'm watching it and I hear Chimin's voice and I'm like, 699 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,400 holy shit. I think this is the show that he 700 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,080 did the OST on. And it was like making 701 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,800 connections, but it was like really delayed connect 702 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,000 connections, you know what I'm saying? 703 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:16,040 Like, if I was a true BTS fan, I would know exactly like which 704 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:20,640 show he was doing this for and what the song was. 705 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,280 I would have already heard the song in its entirety and all 706 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,040 this stuff. But yeah, I really enjoyed this 707 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,840 OSC as well. All the songs are really good. 708 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,680 You have familiar, like, faces, so to speak, on the OSC. 709 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,880 You have like Davici is on here at the Yon Mellow Man Stacy 710 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:43,920 Punch Highs is on here. Some of the if you look up these 711 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,120 artists, you'll be like, Oh my God, I love this OSC from XYZ 712 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:51,600 other show. So these are really comforting 713 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:57,880 sort of artists that provided a wonderful soundtrack to art 714 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:02,360 Blues and I thought kept kept thinking over and over, this is 715 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,520 a really good OSD. Like I got to add some of these 716 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,560 songs when I get done with this. I got to circle back on this OSD 717 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,760 and add these songs to my playlist for sure. 718 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,480 Yeah. Is there anything else you guys 719 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,880 wanted to talk about before we get into the spoiler section 720 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,440 'cause we're going to give our scores and then spoiler section 721 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,480 but. I'm ready to rock'n'roll. 722 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,280 OK, let's do it. Let's do it. 723 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,560 OK, so before we get into the spoiler section, what would you 724 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,440 give our Blues out of fives? Hold your bottles. 725 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,760 Five being the best and one or zero being like terrible. 726 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:40,400 I would give it like 4.5 out of five, yeah, 4.5 out of five. 727 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,960 Yeah. All right, Curtis. 728 00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:45,760 All right, You know, I'm. I'm going to give it. 729 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,440 I'm going to give it five out of five. 730 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,000 It's on my it's on my Mount Rushmore. 731 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,080 Wait, wait, wait. It's on my downplay because I 732 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,360 asked you earlier, you didn't say if you liked it. 733 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,840 And then I asked you, did you like it? 734 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,240 And you were like, yeah, yeah. And then you come in hot with a 735 00:43:59,240 --> 00:44:02,080 5 out of five soldier bottles like you like. 736 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,880 To you got to add some dramas. We need some tension. 737 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,560 We need some tension here. No, I I would put it on my Mount 738 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,120 Rushmore. I would say, you know, top five, 739 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,600 top four, top five drama for me. Like I really, I, I liked it. 740 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,440 I liked everything about it. So I would put it up there. 741 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,600 Definitely. I've only watched it twice. 742 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,240 I could I could watch it a few more times. 743 00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:25,640 There's so much going on. So I would again, I don't know, 744 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,240 like it took me a while to recommend it to my wife, but we 745 00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:31,360 sat down and we started watching it and, and she loved it as 746 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,040 well. It's, it's a slow burn, but it's 747 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:41,440 such a good burn, you know, so it's so like heartwarming isn't 748 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,800 the right, it's just, it just hits you, you know, hits you in 749 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,240 in some good places. So I I would give it a high 750 00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:49,440 rating. I think my .5 deduction is just 751 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,200 for some of the storylines that I didn't care that much for, but 752 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:57,840 others I absolutely loved. And so I think that's why I gave 753 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,560 it a .5 deduction. But Curtis, I'm happy that a 754 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,960 wreck that I gave you made it to your Mount Rushmore. 755 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,040 That makes me very happy. Yeah, this is full circle 756 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,400 because Brandon recommended our Blues to you, Curtis, and then I 757 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,520 think at some point you recommended it to me and then it 758 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,120 was floating in the ether. And then I'm sure that that 759 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,480 played into my decision. She'll be finally like, hey, I 760 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:23,040 need to watch our Blues. So wow, we're just influencing 761 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,040 each other is what I'm saying. Well, where do you put it? 762 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,400 You haven't given us your number yet. 763 00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:34,720 I think my number is 4.5, maybe five out of five because I loved 764 00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:37,920 it. It was, it was really a solid 765 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,080 show. I had almost nothing. 766 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,400 There's I can't think of anything bad to say about it. 767 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:49,000 It's not, it's not, it's not worth like deducting anything. 768 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,560 Like, I don't know. There are some storylines that 769 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,200 after seeing the whole body of work, I'm like, OK, that wasn't 770 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,080 my favorite. But still in the moment I was 771 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:05,000 like, oh, this is really hitting me like in I don't know. 772 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,160 I was still like, it's deep and it's real when I was in it and 773 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,360 now after seeing it and I was like, all right, that's so good. 774 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,000 It's up. Worth deducting anything. 775 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,160 I don't know. I don't know. 776 00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:18,320 Five out of five. We'll just give it five out of 777 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,400 five, four and a half, five and five and a five out of five 778 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,160 soldier bottles. We are going to get into 779 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:29,120 spoilers right after this. Excuse me, I can't try. 780 00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:34,080 I can't try, you know. I have no tingles. 781 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,480 Oh, sorry. This crossing shit. 782 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,920 What? All right, we're on the other 783 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,760 side of spoilers, so anything goes. 784 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,520 We are going to spoil the storylines in our Blues. 785 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,040 If you want to preserve your first watch of our Blues, then 786 00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:54,440 stop listening. Watch our Blues and come back. 787 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:56,880 But if you don't care, they keep listening. 788 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:02,520 I think the storyline that nobody particularly likes, for 789 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,640 lack of a better word, is the first one, the first three 790 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,800 episodes. Am I correct in thinking that 791 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:13,240 that's Unni and Hansu's story? Is that right? 792 00:47:13,240 --> 00:47:15,600 I mean, you need it. You need it there to set up the 793 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,760 relationships between the other townsfolk. 794 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,200 Yeah, yeah. Don't love the actual story. 795 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,640 You need all the periphery things and how she interacts 796 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,400 with everybody and how she's sort of like the backbone of the 797 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:33,440 town financially because she owns this very successful 798 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,560 business. She owns buildings, and she's a 799 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,120 very wealthy woman who is still on that grind, you know what I'm 800 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:41,600 saying? Like, it also sets up her 801 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:46,760 character, her persona. But it is a reunion of first 802 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,520 loves. And you get Han Soo, who's back 803 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,520 in the mix. And I for sure thought he was 804 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,200 going to be a bigger part of the show, like he was going to 805 00:47:55,200 --> 00:48:00,480 continue living in church. Didn't happen, no. 806 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,120 He makes 15 minute appearance at the end. 807 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,920 Yeah, they like brought him back for the final lap and I was 808 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,600 like, oh, just leave him where he was. 809 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,320 Like, he didn't even need to be back here in the episode. 20 He 810 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:19,080 didn't need that, Yeah. But I did like the old, like 811 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,600 he's an old banker, burned out, exhausted with life. 812 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,680 And they had the scene on the beach where he's reminiscing on 813 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:30,000 their golden youth, and he's overwhelmed with nostalgia. 814 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:35,560 And he runs into the water and floats next to his teenage self, 815 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:41,240 who is so young and carefree. And that visual and the the 816 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:46,400 juxtaposition of his younger self to his current self was 817 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,360 something like, I was like, there's something in that. 818 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:54,840 And I really felt that where maybe people can relate to that, 819 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,920 where you feel like life has just beat you down. 820 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,640 And if you look back on your life and you look back on your 821 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:06,600 youth, you, you miss who you used to be, that naive person 822 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,800 who wasn't concerned with working, wasn't concerned with 823 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:14,320 responsibilities, wasn't exhausted all the time, wasn't 824 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,640 in debt, so on and so forth. The list goes on. 825 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:23,000 So that part of their story resonated with me. 826 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,240 And of course, like the way that it plays out was really 827 00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:29,160 heartbreaking. Did you guys like feel any type 828 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,680 of way about it or was it just me that it was like kind of in 829 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,160 my fields the first three episodes? 830 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,880 I thought it was an important story to set the stage for the 831 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,880 village and all the characters. I was just bummed because I 832 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,720 really like that actor and I thought it would be interesting 833 00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:46,360 if he was a recurring member across the other episodes. 834 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,840 We really don't see him after Episode 3 until the the last 835 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,280 episode. I think when they're playing the 836 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,200 friendly soccer game. I think it was a soccer game. 837 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,640 It was like a field day that they had. 838 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,200 I, I don't even know where they're playing against, like 839 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,240 other village people that weren't in the in the ensemble 840 00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:02,600 cast. Yeah. 841 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,760 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But. 842 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,960 I grew to love when he's character across the the 843 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:15,040 episodes and I really wanted her to have some type of love line 844 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,520 later on and I was shocked that they didn't give her one. 845 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,000 So then I think back and I'm like, oh, it would have been 846 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:25,480 great if she could kind of have some relationship with her first 847 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,400 love, but obviously it doesn't work out like that. 848 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,160 But I was kind of bummed for in here as well. 849 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,000 Yeah, I was so bummed for her. I was so bummed for her, 850 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:38,880 especially when she's talking to him like her first love Han SU 851 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,840 about how she's really hesitant to go on 1st dates and stuff 852 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,240 like that. She says I think I'm turning 853 00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:47,400 into an awful person. I measure the pros and cons even 854 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,640 when it comes to love. I'm a horrible person who only 855 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,360 cares about my interests. I I think I'll die alone like 856 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:58,880 she's she's so hurt by the fact that she might die alone because 857 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,400 she has all of these conditions right? 858 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,360 Like for falling in love that she says to him, she rejects 859 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,440 people because maybe the guy is sick or he's taking care of 860 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,120 someone who's sick and that means that he wants a caregiver 861 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,800 wife or he's just interested in me because I'm rich, he's after 862 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,760 my wealth or he's the eldest son who has to care for his aging 863 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,560 parents. That'll def she'll definitely 864 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,760 rejected because that responsibility and burden as she 865 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,160 sees it would likely fall on her and put a strain on her and 866 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:34,640 their brand new marriage. So all of these things, the, the 867 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:39,360 responsibility and exhaustion of life and the, all of these 868 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:45,080 societal expectations of women especially, she's like, I don't 869 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,200 know. I don't want to fucking deal 870 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,920 with that. Like I'm an independent lady. 871 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,120 I have my own income, I'm wealthy. 872 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:55,400 I don't need a man. And like, how's he going to make 873 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:56,920 my life better? Basically? 874 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,680 I don't want him to make my life worse. 875 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,520 And it's like a I'm like, this is serious. 876 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,600 Like I don't know how you guys felt about it, but I was like, 877 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,080 she's she's preaching something good right now. 878 00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:13,440 Like, I don't know. It was, it was a very real 879 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,720 lament, I think for her because she she was feeling like she was 880 00:52:17,720 --> 00:52:20,440 too picky. But I'm like, you can afford to 881 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,760 be picky. You know what I'm saying? 882 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,840 Anyway, it was heartbreaking to to see that little story play 883 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:35,600 out, but then we get to, I think it's no, we don't get to Shin 884 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:40,240 Mina yet, it's Yong Oak and Jong UN story do what did you guys 885 00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:42,640 think of this story? Wait, refresh my memory on. 886 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:48,040 This So Yong Oak is Hanjiman. She is the Oh yeah, OK, younger 887 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,920 hanyo. Yeah, let's give her a nickname. 888 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,680 So like she has the sister with the with Down syndrome. 889 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,760 I don't know a nickname, Brandon, you got a nickname, 890 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,480 but. Just call her Hanyo. 891 00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:01,840 Hanyo. Hanyo, OK, the young hanyo. 892 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,760 So it's her and Chong Joon Kimobin's character. 893 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,760 OK, yeah, it's a it's a cute love story. 894 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:13,120 I mean, it's again, there's it's what I love about this drama is 895 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,960 that none of this is super clean. 896 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:19,480 Everyone's, everyone's got some stuff, you know, everyone's got 897 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:24,760 some history, some baggage, secrets. 898 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,720 And and yet there's this, there's a love story brewing 899 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,800 throughout the whole drama between these two. 900 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:36,320 And you know, he comes through and he's as solid as you can be, 901 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:40,960 you know, basically loving her even through her warts and her 902 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,840 flaws. And she's a great character. 903 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,240 You know, like she I think she shows some depth in her acting 904 00:53:47,240 --> 00:53:49,160 ability as well as the way they wrote her. 905 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,720 Like she's got some real depth to her. 906 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:55,760 And I just, yeah, I like this is my second favorite love story in 907 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,160 this draw. Second favorite, OK, so we'll 908 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,240 well, I'm sure we'll get to the your first favorite at some. 909 00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:06,200 Point. So this story was difficult for 910 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,080 me, I think because I wanted them to get together. 911 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,520 Obviously, I really loved their romance especially. 912 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,680 There was such such an effortlessness when they showed 913 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,720 them together, like especially after like they got together and 914 00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:23,520 started their relationship. Their little vignettes and 915 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:28,480 montages of them spending time together and watching TV and, 916 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,160 you know, laughing together and things like that, that I was 917 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:32,720 like, that's a real relationship. 918 00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:37,080 Like what is where is Shimena? Because that looks real. 919 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:41,280 I was convinced acting is is incredible in this. 920 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:48,080 So I was like taken aback completely because they sold me 921 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,960 on this relationship and their their love, right? 922 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:55,120 That she's catching feelings and he was had already caught 923 00:54:55,120 --> 00:55:00,920 feelings like a long time ago. But he like initially this was 924 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,880 funny to me initially. He's concerned about her body 925 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:08,960 count and he writes down in his in his bus. 926 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,280 Can I date a woman who's already been in so many relationships 927 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:17,280 and all she had shared with him was that she had two past 928 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,280 relationships. At this point she just says that 929 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:24,000 there's two past, she has two exes, that he's as tall as one 930 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:32,240 of her exes, and then there's another ex in the mix. 2 guys 931 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:37,760 and I go, my guy, it's two exes. What are you talking so many 932 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:42,800 Like he has made this story up in his mind that she's got like 933 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,160 all of these. Guys, they kind of made her. 934 00:55:45,240 --> 00:55:47,240 Right, right. They kind of made her out to be 935 00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:50,200 a tease though, you know, like she was teasing with that other 936 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,880 captain and yes. I wanted to get your. 937 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:53,840 Perspective. It made him wonder. 938 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,760 It made him wonder. Right. 939 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,640 I wanted to get your perspective on this. 940 00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:02,520 Because the other captain, who was problematic by the way, she 941 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,200 goes out with him when she goes dancing or something with him. 942 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:11,560 And that escalates, 'cause that guy thinks he has some sort of 943 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,760 claim like to her because she went out with him. 944 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,680 They have a drunk night out. I have in my notes as the ugly 945 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:24,920 captain, That's my nickname for that guy, the ugly captain. 946 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,440 And he starts, he's drunk and he starts demanding they go to a 947 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:34,240 motel and they she won't, he won't take no for an answer. 948 00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:37,360 What do you guys think about this whole situation? 949 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:44,480 Because she is just, she's like deflecting, deflecting the whole 950 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:50,720 time and trying to defuse the situation versus outright 951 00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:54,600 telling him, no, we're never going to go out. 952 00:56:55,280 --> 00:57:00,280 And I think she reads that drunk captain way better than anybody 953 00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,080 else in the cap in the town does. 954 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,800 And she's like, he's good for a good time, but not for anything 955 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,800 else. And I want to do what I want to 956 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:12,680 do. And you know, that's that I saw 957 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:18,920 there's I have a hiccup here with like calling her a tease 958 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:23,520 necessarily because the show wants us to think she's a tease, 959 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,400 you know what I'm saying? But like, all she did was go 960 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,800 dancing with him. Maybe it's my Western lens. 961 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,440 I think it's a bit of the, I think it's a bit of the Western 962 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,080 lens as well. But you know, Korea is obviously 963 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,960 more conservative. But when I was watching the 964 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:44,440 show, in my head, I was thinking Yongl could have been a little 965 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,600 bit more clear and a little bit more transparent on certain 966 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,000 things. Obviously, she doesn't have to 967 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,480 reveal anything she doesn't want to reveal, especially about her 968 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,600 younger sister. But I just felt like she could 969 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:58,720 have always kind of put some of the rumors down easily if she 970 00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,160 chose to. But she would always stay quiet. 971 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,240 She would always act alone. I think if I'm remembering 972 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:08,800 correctly, she she acts alone in one scene, which then puts some 973 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,320 of the other hanyas in jeopardy I think if I'm remembering that 974 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,160 correctly. Yeah, yeah. 975 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,320 She starts harvesting. What is it? 976 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,280 She starts. They're supposed to resurface 977 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,560 every time they get something. They've harvest something. 978 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,880 They get one thing and they're supposed to come up for for air. 979 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:30,800 And The thing is, they're diving. 980 00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:36,680 They're not diving like 10 feet, they're diving 60 plus feet in 981 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,160 the water. That's six stories down. 982 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,840 So when they're telling her, hey, you need to do this, this 983 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,320 is our procedure. This is our workflow, so to 984 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:48,720 speak. And you're staying down longer 985 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:54,240 just to grab more mollusks and, and, and sea creatures down 986 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,840 there. You're harvesting more than one 987 00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,520 thing at a time. It's putting you at risk because 988 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:00,880 we're supposed to do this together. 989 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:05,200 We're in it all together. And your partner and you are 990 00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:06,720 supposed to keep an eye on each other. 991 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:11,680 And if one person is 60 something plus feet above you 992 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:17,280 catching a breath, she can't save you if anything goes wrong 993 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,720 on the bottom of the ocean floor, is what they're saying. 994 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,080 And so they're saying, they kept saying she was greedy. 995 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:29,680 Right, so I think I think some of her actions definitely made 996 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:35,200 her image in the village kind of worse than it really needed to 997 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,000 be. I also don't mind her 998 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,360 relationship with the The Ugly Captain as you call him because 999 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:45,600 the scenes with Ki Mubin's character POC Jung Jun and the 1000 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:49,880 Ugly Captain were some comedic gold scenes so I didn't mind it. 1001 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:55,360 Yeah, like, you kind of want them to butt heads if only to 1002 00:59:55,400 --> 01:00:00,200 see Kimu Bin, like stand tall next to this dude who thinks 1003 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:06,480 he's hot shit and it's funny, like just anyway. 1004 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,960 And then he like, busts him for drunk driving. 1005 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:13,680 Like he's a mess. Like, guy is a mess anyway. 1006 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,720 But the T the tease thing, I had a real hiccup with that. 1007 01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:22,680 It was everything else. About her, that she was really 1008 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,040 mysterious and kept up that mystery and didn't set any 1009 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:31,520 record straight, was content to like not clear any error when 1010 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:35,360 people were bad mouthing her and spreading rumors about her. 1011 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:40,000 And even though she was telling the truth about her parents, 1012 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,360 yes, they were artists, yes, they lived here, yes they did 1013 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,160 this as they own some sort of thing. 1014 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:49,600 All of these individual things were true at one point in her 1015 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,560 life. Everyone took it to mean she's 1016 01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,360 telling three different separate stories. 1017 01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:59,200 She's lying to all of us because all of these three things can be 1018 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,760 true. And I also thought the villagers 1019 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,120 were just. So I guess this goes into like 1020 01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:09,200 the village as a whole was so simple minded, right? 1021 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:14,800 Like they can't think to themselves, hey, she just wants 1022 01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,720 her privacy like she's entitled to. 1023 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:22,040 Like she doesn't have to share who her parents are, what her 1024 01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:26,120 parents do, who keeps calling her all the time while she's out 1025 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,720 at sea harvesting. Like it's not your business, you 1026 01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,520 know what I'm saying? Yeah, I mean, well, they set 1027 01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:33,840 her. They, like you said, they, they 1028 01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,880 wrote her a certain way, 'cause there's that one scene, I think 1029 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:40,760 the first time we see her, they're heading out to sea on 1030 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:44,520 Wubin's boat, you know, and she's waving to ugly captain and 1031 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,160 like, I love you, you know, like she's yelling to his boat and 1032 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:48,960 waving to. She's just waving. 1033 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:50,280 And super. They meet up and sit to. 1034 01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:54,800 See him and everyone's like. Yeah, looking at her like, what 1035 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,640 is she doing? What is she doing? 1036 01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:01,240 And then at the bar, I mean, at, at the, at the little restaurant 1037 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:04,120 that she helps out at too, you know, he comes in there and 1038 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:08,480 she's, she's a little friendly, you know, not not being 1039 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,520 scandalous or anything. That's what I need. 1040 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,760 I know I. Know but but you know, in a 1041 01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,960 small town where everyone's in everyone's business they're kind 1042 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,280 of setting this up you know this is her this is her role of in. 1043 01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:23,800 The town yeah. So, yeah, so we get this girl 1044 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:30,040 and I think I was on her side, even though like she has a very 1045 01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:36,800 and I have to preface this by saying this actress, I I like 1046 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,240 her, but I don't like her, if that makes any sense. 1047 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:46,160 Handyman ever since 1 spring night, I'm kind of like about 1048 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:50,760 her because she was mean to a single dad who's a very 1049 01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:55,800 precious, like kind soft hearted person and she's being really 1050 01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,840 wishy washy with that with that character. 1051 01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,440 And I was like, why? Why is she giving this guy the 1052 01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,080 run around? And so I dropped that show 1053 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,880 because of her, the way she played that that character in 1054 01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:13,520 particular was so grinding. And I've never recovered from 1055 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:18,560 from that character. And this character that she 1056 01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:23,480 plays in our Blues is more of that side of Hunji Min, right, 1057 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:27,760 where she is a slippery character, right? 1058 01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,080 You kind of can't get a read on her sometimes. 1059 01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:39,320 And that that aspect of her, it kind of spirals into this 1060 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:42,520 relationship that she this really fraught relationship that 1061 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:47,360 she has with her twin sister, the sister with Down syndrome. 1062 01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:54,280 And it was at this point that I thought this story got way more 1063 01:03:54,280 --> 01:04:00,200 complex in a way that no other K drama I've seen has done, where 1064 01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:04,600 you have a, first of all, an actress with downs. 1065 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,080 Yeah. And even the younger version, 1066 01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:09,760 like, they had some flashbacks and stuff. 1067 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:15,040 And even the younger version of that sister was another actress, 1068 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,480 a younger actress with Downs. And I was like, this is amazing. 1069 01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:24,040 This is so great. Very unique and groundbreaking 1070 01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:28,680 to me. And this relationship is so 1071 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:32,120 complicated. I don't know if you guys have 1072 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:38,400 ever done any caregiving for someone who's sickly or or 1073 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:43,200 mentally incapacitated in any way, but I have. 1074 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:49,000 And so this relationship, I was like, it was like 2 halves of me 1075 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:50,840 pulling at each other like taffy. 1076 01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,920 Did you guys like feel this way at all with this relationship? 1077 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,720 Yeah, it, I've done a little caregiving and it it's tough. 1078 01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,800 It takes a toll on you in so many ways, you know, 1079 01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:06,160 financially, physically, especially emotionally. 1080 01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:12,120 And, you know, the idea of her being out of town, you know, 1081 01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:17,880 while her sister is on, on the mainland is, is complicated, 1082 01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:19,360 right? Like she needs her space, she 1083 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:23,800 needs to live her life. But there's this constant drain 1084 01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:27,240 on her coming from the mainland. And yeah, it's tough. 1085 01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,440 That was, it was rough. It's so well done. 1086 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,120 Like, I don't, I didn't think I would like it. 1087 01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,960 You know, when they first revealed it, I was like, I don't 1088 01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:38,080 know if this is going to go over well because you have a real 1089 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,440 act. You have a real person who's not 1090 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:44,400 acting necessarily in some of the things that she was going 1091 01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,720 through, you know, and, and she was, she was great. 1092 01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:52,000 And that the way they handled it was beautiful and heartbreaking 1093 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,400 and but endearing at the same time. 1094 01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,000 So yeah, I got super complicated. 1095 01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:01,000 You really felt for her at that point and it was really good. 1096 01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,040 Yeah. How did you feel about it, 1097 01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:06,040 Brandon? I thought it was, I think you 1098 01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,280 mentioned it in the beginning. The, the, the story was 1099 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:12,320 delicately told. And you know, I can't say that I 1100 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,120 have experience being a caregiver, but I just can only 1101 01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,440 imagine the amount of stress that it must weigh on you. 1102 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:23,640 And it kind of goes to show why Young Oak was so focused on 1103 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:28,280 trying to, I don't know, make as much money as she could, even 1104 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,680 though that meant she wouldn't get along with the other hanyas. 1105 01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,680 It's because she has to care for her younger sister. 1106 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:38,080 And I thought that it was a great love story between Young 1107 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:42,640 Oak and Chung Jun. And one thing that I can't get 1108 01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:46,160 out of my head was this innocent scene. 1109 01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:50,160 I think when Chung Jun first meets her sister, I don't even 1110 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:54,960 think he realizes what Down syndrome even is. 1111 01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,200 And so it was like a learning experience for him in a very 1112 01:06:58,200 --> 01:06:59,960 innocent way. I thought that was great. 1113 01:06:59,960 --> 01:07:01,840 So it was very educational as well. 1114 01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,800 So overall, I thought it was a great segment. 1115 01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:08,560 Yeah, I thought they really went there. 1116 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:13,720 It was really hard to watch in a lot of places, especially when 1117 01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:18,160 she is being super harsh to her sister and you can tell that she 1118 01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:19,480 just doesn't want to be around her. 1119 01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,080 She wants almost nothing to do with her. 1120 01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:26,240 And there is this resentment, this deep resentment there, and 1121 01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,000 there's also this deep love there. 1122 01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:32,240 And these things, these duality that's within this character was 1123 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:35,120 really addicting to see them unpack. 1124 01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,520 She says in this I think voiceover, she says Yong Hui is 1125 01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,640 special. She's especially weird. 1126 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,920 She's especially ugly and she especially makes my life 1127 01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:48,320 miserable. And I was like, we can stop 1128 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:53,120 right now. Like that's it is really cruel. 1129 01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:58,120 I think the the storyline plays out really in terms of cruelty. 1130 01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,600 And do you understand the cruelty? 1131 01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,080 Like, can you understand where she's coming from? 1132 01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:05,640 Yeah. And. 1133 01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:06,960 Yeah, there's no winners in this. 1134 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,560 There's no it's like a serial sum game. 1135 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:14,360 This storyline especially, well, all of them like true, truly. 1136 01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,920 She's tries to break up with Kim Woobin. 1137 01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:22,680 He won't have it. He's taken aback by the by the 1138 01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:27,279 twin with downs. He says yes, no hesitation when 1139 01:08:27,279 --> 01:08:28,920 she reveals that they're orphans. 1140 01:08:29,359 --> 01:08:31,439 They lost their parents when they were 12 years old. 1141 01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:34,439 That's a strike against them in Korean society. 1142 01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:40,560 There's a stigma around orphans. And then she throws it in his 1143 01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,439 face. She'll have to care for her, for 1144 01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:43,840 her sister for the rest of her life. 1145 01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:50,479 And that is a really sad, brutal reality that she has this person 1146 01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,319 that has to, she has to care for them. 1147 01:08:53,399 --> 01:08:55,560 They're family, They're all they have. 1148 01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,680 And it's super sweet of him. But I understand where she's 1149 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,200 coming from when she tries to break up with him, when she's 1150 01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:03,920 like, why don't you just save yourself? 1151 01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:08,560 Like you don't understand what the gravity of it is. 1152 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,479 This is a lifelong commitment. You're not just committing to 1153 01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,720 me, you're committing to the both of us. 1154 01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:20,520 Like you, we are a package deal. And I think the show really gets 1155 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:24,840 across the burden of being a caregiver, the sacrifice of 1156 01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:29,319 giving up your life, the expense of living for someone else. 1157 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:34,760 That is not just monetary. It's time, it's energy, it's 1158 01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:38,720 mental load, and in this case, the threat of becoming a social 1159 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:42,560 pariah because they start going in public, the three of them, 1160 01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:46,160 and it is a shit show. They get stares, there's 1161 01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:49,080 rudeness, people are inconsiderate, and society at 1162 01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,439 large is cruel. You have a child that's like 1163 01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:55,360 actively making fun of the sister in public and the parents 1164 01:09:55,360 --> 01:10:01,040 are unconcerned about correcting that behavior and apologizing 1165 01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:08,880 for on behalf of their child. And that is really jarring to 1166 01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:12,040 see in the show. And I don't think that it's 1167 01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:15,040 necessarily far off the mark, you know what I'm saying? 1168 01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:16,880 For. It's realistic. 1169 01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:18,840 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Korea society. 1170 01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,720 So that was really tough. It's a tough. 1171 01:10:22,440 --> 01:10:25,880 They're holding up a big mirror to Korean society and they're 1172 01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:31,040 saying look at what what this is and it's provocative. 1173 01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:35,280 Later on. I think the sister of the Peno 1174 01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:41,760 has, like, a little hissy fit at the house later when the sister 1175 01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:46,120 is outside drawing in the cold, It's freezing outside, and she's 1176 01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:50,240 drawing outside. No one knows how to act around 1177 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:53,640 people with disabilities, how to treat them with dignity because 1178 01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,000 they are so removed from society. 1179 01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,000 And she says this, they're sent to care facilities instead of 1180 01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,040 being cared for at home. And if they're with family, 1181 01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:05,120 they're clearly a burden. And any public outbursts are a 1182 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:08,000 shameful embarrassment that draws the attention of a society 1183 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:11,320 that has no compassion. There is no ADA compliance in 1184 01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:16,360 Korea. There is, you know, no laws 1185 01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:20,800 prohibiting discrimination of people with disabilities in 1186 01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:24,040 Korea. This is a serious thing. 1187 01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:28,120 You know what I'm saying? Almost feeling like it's 1188 01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:32,240 sanctioned. And she is devastated and at the 1189 01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:36,080 same time really angry at the whole situation. 1190 01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:41,360 And despite people with downs having developmental delays and 1191 01:11:41,440 --> 01:11:44,600 and intellectual disability, they have high emotional 1192 01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,720 intelligence. And so the sister is outside and 1193 01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:53,280 she understands everything. She is crying because she knows 1194 01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:57,480 what the sister is saying. She hears her and she completely 1195 01:11:57,480 --> 01:12:01,000 understands that her sister borderline hates her. 1196 01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:05,280 And this whole thing, I mean, it's rough, man. 1197 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:10,960 It's so rough, that whole thing, unbelievable, unbelievable. 1198 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,760 The end of that storyline when she sees all of the hand drawn 1199 01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:18,400 portraits, the whole thing of the sister saying like, you 1200 01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,440 can't draw, you're not an artist, I don't know why you're 1201 01:12:20,440 --> 01:12:23,800 doing this. And then she sees the obscene 1202 01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:29,320 amount of of art that she has created while she was in Cheju 1203 01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:33,160 for that week and she. They did it really well, you 1204 01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,320 know, like she doesn't, she doesn't come across as like, you 1205 01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:39,000 know, an amazing, amazing artist. 1206 01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:45,520 But the drawings she did are so endearing and you know, they're 1207 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,920 they're beautiful and they they capture more than just the 1208 01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,520 accuracy of of what these people look like. 1209 01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,240 She captures the heart. And I thought they did that 1210 01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,800 really good. Like whoever was the actual 1211 01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,480 artist who did all these, like they did a really good. 1212 01:12:59,480 --> 01:13:01,280 Job, I can tell you who the actual artist was. 1213 01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:05,880 It was the actress Jungle who plays the sister with dance Yung 1214 01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:07,160 Hui. Oh, really? 1215 01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:10,160 Yeah, all hand drawn portraits that were displayed in episode 1216 01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,160 15 were sketched by Jung. Oh wow. 1217 01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:16,320 Her Wow. Yeah, the actual artist. 1218 01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:18,440 The actual actress, I should say. 1219 01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,400 Yeah, no, I mean, 'cause it can't, it came out across as 1220 01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:24,440 really good, you know, 'cause I was like, I was wondering, you 1221 01:13:24,440 --> 01:13:27,720 know, was she gonna be super amazing, you know, like, like. 1222 01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,760 Really. Detailed, but they the way they 1223 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,960 did it, they were simple. But yeah, so that's perfect. 1224 01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:38,120 That's perfect. So that was another storyline. 1225 01:13:38,480 --> 01:13:41,840 What were other storylines that you guys wanted to bring up? 1226 01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:46,240 I think we maybe want to leave the Ibiungun one for the one 1227 01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,920 with him and his mom, I guess for last maybe. 1228 01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:52,200 But what were the other other ones that you guys want to bring 1229 01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:55,560 up? Some some that I really 1230 01:13:55,560 --> 01:14:00,200 appreciated. So the little girl and I, I, I, 1231 01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,920 I'm blinking on her name. Maybe I can find it. 1232 01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:08,440 Oh, Ungi her her father is a childhood friend to the village 1233 01:14:08,440 --> 01:14:12,560 and he is getting surgery. And so they all climb to the top 1234 01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,960 of the mountain the the 1000 moons and they get all the 1235 01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,160 sailors. I thought that was one of the 1236 01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:19,640 most. Oh my God. 1237 01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:23,680 Heartwarming scenes ever. It made Jenny cry so much. 1238 01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:27,920 And then my personal favorite storyline for this show is the 1239 01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:32,120 the not just the teen pregnancy, but then also their father's 1240 01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:35,640 relationship. So then for I that that was my 1241 01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:37,160 my favorite storyline of the show. 1242 01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:39,880 Mm hmm. What was What made it your 1243 01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:43,040 favorite? Well, it's definitely a topic 1244 01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:46,720 that we casually don't see teen pregnancy in in Kane dramas. 1245 01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:51,880 And I just thought they truly captured how realistic and how 1246 01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,600 how accurate they depicted how people would make decisions in 1247 01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:02,480 those in that situation. So do we, do we try to get the 1248 01:15:02,480 --> 01:15:05,520 abortion or, or I can, or hey, we can do it. 1249 01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,520 We can raise the kid or can we? Can we? 1250 01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:12,600 Not them telling their parents. I thought like those two scenes 1251 01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:14,560 in that night. It was amazing. 1252 01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:19,880 Amazing in the sense that that is exactly how most Korean 1253 01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:23,120 parents would react. If I told my father, I'm sure it 1254 01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:27,680 would have been the exact same situation as that young kid. 1255 01:15:28,440 --> 01:15:32,920 Same for the daughter. And so I just felt like this was 1256 01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,600 the realist depiction for such a harsh topic. 1257 01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,720 And they did it on AK drama. They weren't afraid to really go 1258 01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:40,320 there. And I appreciated that. 1259 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:45,200 And not to like generalize, but I remember like me, my mom, all 1260 01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:49,080 all my friends who are Korean, we're watching this show. 1261 01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:54,240 When we got to this segment of episodes, everyone was like, Oh 1262 01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,920 my God, these episodes were amazing. 1263 01:15:56,920 --> 01:16:00,240 Like everyone has to go watch our Blues like the storyline 1264 01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,000 before. And we already mentioned like 1265 01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,960 the first three episodes and then kind of the love line was 1266 01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,040 building. So up until that point, it was a 1267 01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,880 decent show. We weren't sure how crazy it was 1268 01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:11,280 going to go, but when it got then you. 1269 01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:16,400 Hit like episode 5 and that's when you hit the teen teen 1270 01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,320 pregnancy and you're like, yeah, you don't know where to look. 1271 01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,480 You're just like, Oh my God. Right. 1272 01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:25,240 And so Curtis, you mentioned your, I think you mentioned that 1273 01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:29,320 Kimubin's love line was your second favorite, is that right? 1274 01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:33,440 Yeah, yeah. So my favorite love line was the 1275 01:16:33,480 --> 01:16:35,880 two kids. OK, OK. 1276 01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:37,920 Oh. That's so cute. 1277 01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:39,280 Oh. Yeah. 1278 01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:42,760 I love. Them, the dads are amazing, the 1279 01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:46,400 dads, you know, the, the characterizations of the dads, 1280 01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,720 they just went with it. They're so committed to who they 1281 01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:54,720 are playing, the actors and the you just the, when the kids are 1282 01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,800 like, well, if I tell my dad, he's going to cry for days. 1283 01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,000 And if I tell my dad, he's going to break a lot of things, you 1284 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,480 know, and, and then it exactly plays out exactly that way they 1285 01:17:03,480 --> 01:17:06,440 thought it would because they knew their their dads so well 1286 01:17:06,440 --> 01:17:08,960 and their dads are well known in the community for being those 1287 01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:12,080 things too. And it's just the whole town was 1288 01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:15,720 feeling what they were feeling and it and then just their beef 1289 01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:20,600 that goes back 20 years. It was it was so well done. 1290 01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:22,600 Yeah. The beef. 1291 01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:27,680 The beef killed me. So I agree completely that the 1292 01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:32,000 teen pregnancy was surprising and well done. 1293 01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:36,280 And again, another taboo subject, right? 1294 01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:42,000 It was very emotional cheese. I I was caught up from the very 1295 01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:47,200 like she goes to the an OBGYN who was awful and condescending 1296 01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,240 to her. He tells her it's your fault for 1297 01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:52,880 not using contraception and like they're the condom failed or 1298 01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:54,760 something like that. And so they did use 1299 01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:57,920 contraception. It was like she she was gagged 1300 01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:04,640 like by this doctor and it's super frustrating to see her in 1301 01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,880 that environment. I don't know if you ever you've 1302 01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,840 ever had someone in your life tell you horror stories about an 1303 01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,480 OBGYN and they're like, I don't never want to see that person 1304 01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:15,040 again. But like, honestly, I, I've 1305 01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,920 experienced something similar to this, not with a pregnancy, 1306 01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:23,120 thank God, but like with, you know, just a regular visit where 1307 01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:26,280 I'm like, I hate that doctor. I need to report that doctor to 1308 01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:31,400 look bored. And this was tough to watch, 1309 01:18:31,440 --> 01:18:33,240 especially because it's a teenager. 1310 01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:35,360 They're helpless. She's helpless, right? 1311 01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:36,880 Like she doesn't have a guardian with her. 1312 01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,880 She doesn't have any person to advocate for her. 1313 01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:44,560 She's never gone to an OBGYN before and he's out here telling 1314 01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,640 her telling her things like all you teenagers are the same. 1315 01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,360 When she suspects she's she tells the doctor, I think I'm 1316 01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,520 three weeks, 3 months pregnant and she's actually 22 weeks 1317 01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:57,240 pregnant, which is 6 months. So she's been pregnant for six 1318 01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,360 months, twice the amount of time she thought she was. 1319 01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:03,880 He demands that she get parental consent and they, I think I've 1320 01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:08,480 misread the subtitles, but she was, I think she said earlier 1321 01:19:08,480 --> 01:19:11,480 that it's not needed by law anymore, but the doctor was 1322 01:19:11,480 --> 01:19:13,960 being a Dick basically and saying like, you know, you need 1323 01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:17,360 parental consent or whatever. It was like this whole like shit 1324 01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,840 show. So ever since that doctor's 1325 01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:25,000 visit, I was like, this is going downhill fast, you know what I'm 1326 01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,920 saying? And then we get the beef between 1327 01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:33,920 the dads and I mean, it was bad like the IT culminates in this 1328 01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,480 jail cell. To me it culminates when they 1329 01:19:36,480 --> 01:19:40,640 get arrested together. For fighting each other, it's. 1330 01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:45,440 For fighting, Yeah. And he said her dad tells his 1331 01:19:45,440 --> 01:19:48,480 dad, how did it feel to get beaten by her son? 1332 01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:53,400 He says that's how he felt the night that he went to him in 1333 01:19:53,480 --> 01:19:58,160 desperate need and said I need, I need money. 1334 01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:01,040 Like my child is hungry. My wife has left me. 1335 01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:05,000 And he called him a dirt poor loser. 1336 01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,600 Yeah, and and he said that that's fine. 1337 01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,720 He goes. Yeah, I know I was, but you just 1338 01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:12,080 don't do that in front of my daughter. 1339 01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:13,320 You. Know you don't do that in front 1340 01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:16,440 of my daughter. And he called him a dirt poor 1341 01:20:16,440 --> 01:20:18,680 loser and made his daughter beg for money. 1342 01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:23,160 Yeah. And he was cruel and degrading 1343 01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:27,920 when he was most vulnerable. And he went to him because he 1344 01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:29,280 was the only friend he could rely on. 1345 01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:34,040 He was all he had and that is to go to someone with all of your 1346 01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:37,160 heart and for them to like to humiliate you. 1347 01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:42,480 That is what stuck that that is the beef that stuck. 1348 01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:49,560 And so to see that play out and to see how the kids were just 1349 01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:54,320 pummeled by the the two dads in various ways, emotionally and 1350 01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,720 physically. I mean, it was bad. 1351 01:20:56,720 --> 01:21:02,800 But then the reconciliation was was like sad and beautiful. 1352 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:07,880 Yeah, and realistic to a point. You know, where it didn't, it 1353 01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,400 didn't happen over one, one episode. 1354 01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:15,320 You know, it did took some time. And yeah, there, there needed to 1355 01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,920 there, there needed to be a lot of steps in between. 1356 01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:19,600 But the the arc was great. Yeah. 1357 01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:20,840 I thought the arc was really great. 1358 01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:26,120 Demanding apologies for things like he like he said shit about 1359 01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:30,600 his daughter that she was sleeping around and she was like 1360 01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:34,200 he dragged her out of the hotel, the motel room at one point and. 1361 01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:37,160 Yeah, that's. Literally take her to the 1362 01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:40,760 hospital to get an abortion. It was like wildness, wildness. 1363 01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:44,840 So that whole thing was was great. 1364 01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:50,360 I had this moment ingrained into my brain was episode 6 when the 1365 01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:56,520 the two kids decide to keep the baby and they said promise. 1366 01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:58,360 She said, promise me you won't change. 1367 01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:04,000 And it starts raining on them. She covers her, her tummy like 1368 01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,600 it starts to rain and she's like this covering her forehead. 1369 01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:10,240 And then she's changes and covers her little tummy. 1370 01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:14,520 And then he comes over and like covers her and I Oh my God, it 1371 01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:18,280 was so adorable. Do you remember this moment? 1372 01:22:19,440 --> 01:22:21,080 No. I don't actually. 1373 01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:24,800 No, then they start kissing in the street and that's when Ani 1374 01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:28,080 drives by in her truck and she sees them and she's like, what 1375 01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:31,600 the fuck is going on? Like she's like, didn't know 1376 01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:36,480 they were dating. Anyway, all this stuff, these 1377 01:22:36,480 --> 01:22:40,280 set of episodes were really, again, super powerful. 1378 01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:42,000 Curtis, what was your number one? 1379 01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:46,200 Then what was your number one? OK, so my number one was the 1380 01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:50,840 Shimena. I I thought, you know the Dong 1381 01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:57,360 suck and sauna that one, it spans what at least 1520 years 1382 01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:01,000 goes back to when they were kids and they had nothing but each 1383 01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:04,240 other and they were just drowning in misery. 1384 01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:07,120 But they had each other for a week or two. 1385 01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:08,720 It wasn't even that long of a time. 1386 01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:13,160 But it just, they, the, IT started there where they of 1387 01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,600 course they loved each other, but they kind of got separated 1388 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,720 and didn't see each other for 15 years or something like that. 1389 01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:23,080 And they met randomly on Seoul, at Seoul or in Seoul. 1390 01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:28,280 And then that lasted a month or so and they were just hanging 1391 01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,960 out and having fun. But then she, she dumps them on 1392 01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,080 the beach when he tries to kiss. He's the worst. 1393 01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:37,880 He has the worst timing ever of when to kiss someone, but he 1394 01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:41,000 tries to kiss her on the beach and she's like, OK, Take Me 1395 01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:41,760 Home. I'm done. 1396 01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:45,200 And he's like, well, what what I do, what I do. 1397 01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:48,400 And then they meet up later in life and he's super mad about 1398 01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:51,440 everything, but mad about her too. 1399 01:23:51,440 --> 01:23:56,040 And then they slowly and then so in your notes, you have, you 1400 01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:57,440 know, what's your favorite scene? 1401 01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:03,160 The, the way they portrayed her depression of just symbolically, 1402 01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:08,080 everything gets dark for her and she's drowning, you know, in 1403 01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:13,120 those moments, just covered in water and, and emotionally 1404 01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:16,480 drowning, maybe even physically drowning and dying. 1405 01:24:16,480 --> 01:24:19,760 She's literally dying or figuratively dying. 1406 01:24:20,480 --> 01:24:24,080 And he gives her a little light. You know, like that, that stupid 1407 01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:27,400 little soundtrack he does on the island that that's my favorite 1408 01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:29,880 scene where he said, here's something to, to make you laugh. 1409 01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:34,880 And he sends it to her and, and it's not again, it's not like 1410 01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,560 fairy tale where it's like, oh, everything's, everything's 1411 01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:39,080 cured. He sent me this crazy little 1412 01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:41,400 tape and now I'm cured from depression. 1413 01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:45,120 But it wasn't like that. It was a slow burn where she's 1414 01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:50,040 coming out of it and it's just the and and it didn't even end 1415 01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:53,440 where it was, you know, wedding bells or anything necessarily. 1416 01:24:53,440 --> 01:24:56,880 Like she's still digging herself out of her hole, right. 1417 01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:00,200 And he's, he's got some issues too, got a ton of issues too to 1418 01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:03,440 dig out from. But they, they've had each other 1419 01:25:03,440 --> 01:25:08,520 for a couple decades and then they kind of meet up again when 1420 01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,880 they need each other most. And it kind of works for me. 1421 01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:14,920 I, I really like that I picked that as my number one romance 1422 01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:16,320 when we did our Valentine's show. 1423 01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:20,200 Jess, where you, you submitted your answer to that was mine, 1424 01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:23,760 that I picked this, this romance as the Oh yeah, Brandon, you 1425 01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:27,560 were on that episode too. But yeah, this is the one I 1426 01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:31,200 picked for my it. It's it's a really ugly, messy 1427 01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:33,800 relationship, but I I really like the way they did it. 1428 01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:39,640 Yeah, this relationship is pretty different than a standard 1429 01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:44,560 romance, right, where you have a lot of time in between when they 1430 01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,520 were kids and they were each other's first loves. 1431 01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,800 And she has a really bad home life. 1432 01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,280 He has a horrible home life as well. 1433 01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:59,840 And they kind of find each other in the madness and they are each 1434 01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,400 other's safe haven. And then she leaves. 1435 01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,840 Like she just, it's just the one that got away, you know what I'm 1436 01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:09,360 saying? And the moment that I remember 1437 01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:12,160 seeing on TikTok after I had already decided to watch Our 1438 01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:17,560 Blues was in episode 4. The episode starts, it's not 1439 01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:21,040 about the episode is not about Dong Sok or Shin Mina's 1440 01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:23,720 character, but it starts with Shin Mina. 1441 01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:29,760 And I was like whoa, this scene of her and intro ING her 1442 01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:36,560 depression and her husband being completely over it. 1443 01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:39,800 Exasperated with her. He screams at her to go to the 1444 01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:44,400 hospital to get treatment and they say depression can be 1445 01:26:44,440 --> 01:26:47,360 cured. He complaints about the laundry 1446 01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:49,840 and the cleaning of the state of the house. 1447 01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:53,360 She counters why doesn't he do it himself? 1448 01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:55,720 Why does she have to do all the household chores? 1449 01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,840 He fires back. She wants him to work and do all 1450 01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:02,920 the housework. My blood was boiling like this 1451 01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:08,240 scene and then particularly the part where he says she reeks, 1452 01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:14,080 that she stinks. And the passage of time thing, 1453 01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:17,360 we're just time is this amorphous thing to her. 1454 01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:19,520 She's unreachable and she didn't. 1455 01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:24,000 She thinks that it's still the morning and it's actually the 1456 01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,960 evening and she didn't pick up her kid from preschool. 1457 01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:31,840 It's the middle of the night. It is a sucker punch, this 1458 01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:36,520 introduction to Shimena, and then poof, we don't see her or 1459 01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:40,440 hear from her for several episodes as we go into other 1460 01:27:40,440 --> 01:27:44,120 storylines and the pregnancy, the teen pregnancy and things 1461 01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:49,680 like that crop up. Shimena did an incredible job, I 1462 01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:56,280 thought, playing this character and playing a character who 1463 01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:00,960 loves her son. Right, like the Depression, she 1464 01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:06,200 doesn't take away the fact that she loves her son and wants to 1465 01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:09,440 provide for her son and be there. 1466 01:28:09,440 --> 01:28:13,440 It is impeding her ability to do that. 1467 01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:17,760 And her husband is like the worst. 1468 01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:28,520 I, like, couldn't get over the fact that he was so, so cold 1469 01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:33,960 toward her and almost, like, wouldn't pick up the slack, you 1470 01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:36,400 know what I'm saying? Like, if she's struggling and 1471 01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:41,600 she's at 10%, OK, you got to do 90, you know what I'm saying? 1472 01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,760 Like, that's all there is to it. Yeah. 1473 01:28:45,480 --> 01:28:47,080 But, you know, it's pretty realistic, though. 1474 01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:51,120 Honestly, I-20 you got to do 80 like I sorry, like that's how 1475 01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:55,880 life works. So he just was not willing to, I 1476 01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:56,800 don't know how. How did you? 1477 01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:01,160 If I was to play devil's advocate, because Jenny and I 1478 01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:04,280 talked about this a lot and we have some experience with 1479 01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:09,200 depression and anxiety disorder, one thing that the show doesn't 1480 01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:13,280 clarify for us is how long she has been in that state of 1481 01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:17,520 depression. And so I want to be, I, I try to 1482 01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:22,120 be sympathetic to the husband's character if this had happened, 1483 01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:25,800 you know, initially and he just wasn't willing to pitch in. 1484 01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:28,200 Totally understand he's being unhelpful. 1485 01:29:28,480 --> 01:29:32,320 But they're obviously parents to this young child. 1486 01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:35,520 And what happens when it goes six months, one year, you know, 1487 01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:37,720 two years? And he does make the comment, 1488 01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:39,880 like, can you at least go get treatment? 1489 01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:43,280 So it seems like she wasn't taking the necessary steps to 1490 01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:46,160 get better, at least how that's how I took it. 1491 01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:50,760 And so I kind of understood his frustrations. 1492 01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:53,720 If you're not going to pick up, if you told me you're going to 1493 01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:57,240 pick up the kid and you did it, like now you're putting our son 1494 01:29:57,240 --> 01:30:00,720 in danger. And I'm obviously happy that she 1495 01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,400 goes on her mental health journey and she goes to the 1496 01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:07,840 countryside and, and finds her shine her her light, as you 1497 01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:09,240 mentioned, Curtis and Yi Byung on. 1498 01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:15,120 But you know, she also had to have been a, a, a parent to her 1499 01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:17,560 son. And I think the dad was thinking 1500 01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:22,680 for the sun's safety first, so I I wanted to just give him a 1501 01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:25,320 little bit of slack when I watched the. 1502 01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:28,400 Show and I think there were two things that didn't let me take 1503 01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:32,000 my foot off his neck. So the one thing was he knew. 1504 01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:34,680 Sorry, maybe there's a better way to say that. 1505 01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:39,080 But one thing was he knew about her depression from the jump 1506 01:30:40,440 --> 01:30:44,600 before he even married her when they were dating, he knew knew 1507 01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:46,120 about her depression. That's true. 1508 01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:50,320 And I don't know if that played into their breakup initially, 1509 01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:54,480 because when he she met Ebogan's character however many years ago 1510 01:30:54,480 --> 01:30:58,120 and they went joyriding, they were on the outs. 1511 01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:00,560 They had broken up. So who knows? 1512 01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:05,840 They don't say like why they broke up, but to me that says, 1513 01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:11,760 OK, I'm signing up. You know, I'm for better, for 1514 01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:16,880 worse, You know what I'm saying? Like, that is a promise and he 1515 01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:20,840 knew it's not like it this cropped up later and he's got 1516 01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:26,640 to, you know, adjust. And second of all, I think that 1517 01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:32,080 what played into her losing custody was the accident, the 1518 01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,400 traffic, the car accident that happened. 1519 01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:36,440 And he blamed her for that accident. 1520 01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:40,120 When I watch it back, I don't think she was at fault at all. 1521 01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:46,680 Like she got cut off and ran into the car and I was like, how 1522 01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:50,600 is that her fault that she got cut off in traffic? 1523 01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:53,480 Like, you know what I'm saying? Like I'm like, where's where's 1524 01:31:53,480 --> 01:31:57,800 the fault that she was like, how is this playing into like she 1525 01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:02,400 was depressed and like ran into a car that didn't scream. 1526 01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:05,000 She needs to lose custody because she picked up the kid. 1527 01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:08,480 She was being responsible. The kid was strapped into the 1528 01:32:08,480 --> 01:32:09,640 sea. If there were other 1529 01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:14,000 circumstances, like it was a different kind of accident and 1530 01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:17,960 she was at fault where the kid wasn't in a seat belt or 1531 01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:22,160 something like that, like that would have signaled to me, yeah, 1532 01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:26,160 the kid is unsafe with her. But for all intents and 1533 01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:30,000 purposes, this was a pretty bad traffic accident that she was 1534 01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:33,240 not at fault for. And then he takes it upon 1535 01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:36,480 himself to initiate this really ugly custody battle. 1536 01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:40,560 Jess, did you rewatch the episodes recently 'cause I, I, I 1537 01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:42,240 didn't. So your memory might be better 1538 01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:44,800 than mine on the show. So I just watched them. 1539 01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:50,480 Wasn't there a scene where they ask the son like his opinion on 1540 01:32:50,480 --> 01:32:53,920 the mom and the dad and I forget the answers he gives and I 1541 01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:56,240 forget what he says about the? Mom, do you remember? 1542 01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:59,880 He says he calls his dad. Oh, my dad's like a friend. 1543 01:32:59,880 --> 01:33:05,760 He calls him friend and then he's they ask him his opinion on 1544 01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:08,480 the mom and he says, oh, mom is sick. 1545 01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:15,680 So he just thinks that she is sick, not that she is, you know, 1546 01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:17,560 mom, she's great. Whatever. 1547 01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:22,120 Some other verbiage that would have passed in the courts for 1548 01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:26,240 her to get custody. Just him knowing that she was 1549 01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:30,040 struggling was I guess a strike against her. 1550 01:33:31,480 --> 01:33:35,960 So and what was terrible again, was during that custody battle, 1551 01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:40,560 she the husband was bringing up. It was like us mini microcosm of 1552 01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:44,400 marriage story. Have you seen that movie story 1553 01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:47,640 with that ugly custody battle between Scarlett Johansson and 1554 01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:50,880 No No. I haven't seen it about the 1555 01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:53,680 other story, yeah. There's the other one too. 1556 01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:57,840 Kramer versus Kramer. Yeah, so good. 1557 01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,440 Right, the original. Yeah, so it's the same thing 1558 01:34:00,440 --> 01:34:04,800 basically where it all comes out, but it's not the whole 1559 01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:07,280 truth. So the husband and saying, oh, 1560 01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:09,360 she didn't pick up the kid, she didn't do this, she didn't do 1561 01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:11,280 that. And she's like, OK, I didn't 1562 01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:15,920 pick up the kid on one day, but I pick him up 364 other days out 1563 01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:20,160 of the year. Like I'm doing well all the 1564 01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:22,920 other times. And I didn't play with him maybe 1565 01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:26,360 three or four times out of the month, but I play with him all 1566 01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:30,120 the other days, like out of the month and so on and so forth. 1567 01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:34,960 Like all of these strikes against her are like a small 1568 01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:39,520 percentage of the time that she is full time caregiving for her 1569 01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:43,920 son that she is out of Commission or unable to care for 1570 01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:46,160 him. So it was enough. 1571 01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:51,520 Well, you know, honestly, though, I, I, I think the courts 1572 01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:55,720 probably made the right call in this case, like just purely 1573 01:34:55,720 --> 01:35:01,080 speaking, safety of the child. I, I think they probably made 1574 01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:03,040 the right choice. Even though we like Shima, you 1575 01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:04,760 know, we, we know she's going through a lot. 1576 01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:07,680 We like her, you know, we like her character. 1577 01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:12,040 There's obviously some room for compassion, but the bottom line 1578 01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:14,720 is like, which parent? Which would he be more safe 1579 01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:17,600 with? And it isn't about emotion. 1580 01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:19,800 At that point. The court has to make a decision 1581 01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:24,080 on the welfare of the child physically, you know, just keep 1582 01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:27,720 the kid alive. And so they probably made the 1583 01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:31,640 right choice, though we could all see that in the long run, 1584 01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:33,360 you know, who's who's going to love him more? 1585 01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:36,960 We know the mom would, but. I also thought it was funny that 1586 01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:40,120 they were asking the dad like, OK, who's going to do this? 1587 01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:41,960 Who's going to cure a gift while you're at work? 1588 01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:43,680 And he's like, oh, my parents are. 1589 01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:46,120 And they're, So she's like, OK, so you're not going to cure a 1590 01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:48,480 gift for him. Your parent, your elderly 1591 01:35:48,480 --> 01:35:52,880 parents are going to be raising him while you're working and 1592 01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:54,600 who's going to pick him up from school and all this stuff. 1593 01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:58,400 And it was never him. It was always his parents. 1594 01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:01,480 No. But in Korean culture, that's in 1595 01:36:01,480 --> 01:36:06,400 Korean culture, that's very, that's the standard, almost like 1596 01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:10,040 my generation of kids, like there's AI have a lot of friends 1597 01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:11,920 who are closer to their grandparents than their parents 1598 01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:15,040 just because that was the all families live together and the 1599 01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:17,920 parents help out. So I I didn't think that was 1600 01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:20,080 that weird. That's pretty common in Korea. 1601 01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:23,000 And and shame and I had no one. You know, she has no parents. 1602 01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:25,280 I'm not. Saying it's weird because I got 1603 01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:28,280 picked up every day after school for my with my grandparents. 1604 01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:33,320 What I'm saying is if it's between aging grandparents or 1605 01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:36,200 his mother, like you know what I'm saying? 1606 01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:38,840 Like they were asking questions. Have to work full time though. 1607 01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:42,080 Pointed questions about like, who is going to raise him, who 1608 01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:44,960 is going to be caregiving? And it was not him. 1609 01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:48,960 Yeah. So it it was hard. 1610 01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:51,600 But they asked her too and and she didn't have anyone. 1611 01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:53,680 She was like, I was going to. She's going to have to work full 1612 01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:56,680 time, so someone else. I can do this and pick him up 1613 01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:59,080 and all this stuff. So yeah, it was going to she was 1614 01:36:59,080 --> 01:37:03,120 going to be single mom in it. Anyway, Long story short, this 1615 01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:09,000 storyline was harsh. And then you add in the love 1616 01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:14,800 story that she like, doesn't love him Ebiungun's character at 1617 01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:21,080 first, but she grows to love him and need him. 1618 01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:24,760 So I really like that. And her meeting his mom at the 1619 01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:28,120 end, I was like, like, I was like in tears. 1620 01:37:29,440 --> 01:37:31,960 Yeah, they just, it is written so well, you know, like it just 1621 01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:35,560 at that moment, he has to make up with his mom just in time, 1622 01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:38,600 just within a day, right. To to make it. 1623 01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:42,400 Work what I liked about their relationship and especially when 1624 01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:46,240 Thong Suk is there for when she loses custody, right? 1625 01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:48,720 Which is devastating for any parent, I'm sure. 1626 01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:52,080 Yeah. She sobs uncontrollably for 1627 01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:55,680 hours, she won't eat or drink and she and he gets fed up. 1628 01:37:55,680 --> 01:38:00,400 Like he tells her she should do her best to gird up, prepare 1629 01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:04,480 herself for the appeal and not wallow in self pity. 1630 01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:10,680 And she's devastated at the this horrible thought that her son 1631 01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:14,760 might hate her and probably doesn't want to be around her 1632 01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:17,120 etcetera. And she basically says that she 1633 01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:19,880 just can't help it. It's how she is. 1634 01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:23,480 And instead of criticizing her like her husband did, just leave 1635 01:38:23,480 --> 01:38:27,440 her be, leave her to her own devices and how she processes 1636 01:38:27,440 --> 01:38:31,720 things. He ends up asking her questions 1637 01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:34,560 about her depression. What does it feel like? 1638 01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:37,440 And he starts consoling her. When did it start? 1639 01:38:37,440 --> 01:38:41,320 And she says it started when her dad committed suicide by driving 1640 01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:45,800 himself into the ocean. Like wildness, more wildness for 1641 01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:48,240 these back stories. It's trauma upon trauma. 1642 01:38:49,480 --> 01:38:51,240 You could say it's generational trauma. 1643 01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:59,160 And the next morning, he ponders more about his own circumstances 1644 01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:03,120 and his own relationship with his mom, meaning he's wondering 1645 01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:05,040 if his mother struggled with depression. 1646 01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:09,680 He wonders if she ever loved him because she neglected him. 1647 01:39:10,480 --> 01:39:14,880 And just as he told Shimena's character to just call up her 1648 01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:18,320 son and ask him how he feels about her, Shimena tells him he 1649 01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:22,760 should ask his mom outright. Instead of avoiding the problem 1650 01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:28,120 and burying your worries by ignoring the person scared of 1651 01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:30,960 what they'll say, he should talk to her. 1652 01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:34,920 And she says she went through a whole crisis of hating her 1653 01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:38,920 father, wondering why he never said that he was having a hard 1654 01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:41,880 time, wondering if he loved her at all. 1655 01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:47,920 And she concluded that he did love her, but life is just 1656 01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:51,720 terrible and it beat him down. And then she felt guilty for 1657 01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:55,320 seeing him Rage Against life, being a violent alcoholic and 1658 01:39:55,320 --> 01:40:01,040 never asking him what was wrong, why was he so mad or sad. 1659 01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:05,200 And she tells him to talk to his mom or risk living in regret. 1660 01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:09,000 That you could have done more, said more, probed more so. 1661 01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:13,120 That circles back. That's like an earlier episode. 1662 01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:19,080 Then we hit episodes like 18/19/20 and this circles back 1663 01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:23,840 around right with his relationship with his mom and 1664 01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:27,720 him finally asking some tough questions to her. 1665 01:40:29,480 --> 01:40:33,840 And I guess we can wrap, we can wrap up with this story. 1666 01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:36,520 Is that does that sound good? I think so. 1667 01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:39,720 The last storyline that we're going to talk about is Thong 1668 01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:44,840 suck with his mother. And I mean, this relationship 1669 01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:50,120 and these set of episodes is tough because you, I mean, I 1670 01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:53,200 keep saying it's tough, but I felt. 1671 01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:58,320 Look the mom. Is so freaking detached and 1672 01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:00,920 disassociated like she's just spaced out. 1673 01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:04,240 And I thought I kept thinking like maybe she has something 1674 01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:06,720 like maybe he's right like maybe she has some sort of mental 1675 01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:08,440 illness that she's struggling with. 1676 01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:12,240 And I could never like put my finger on it. 1677 01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:18,760 I was like, she's the way she is looking around like I was, I was 1678 01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:20,840 like, where is she? She's not there. 1679 01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:25,600 Like I couldn't figure it out, couldn't get past it because the 1680 01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:31,280 flashbacks were so visceral. We're super visceral of her 1681 01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:34,240 slapping him multiple times because she needs she he he 1682 01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:36,680 needs to call her aunt instead of mother and her getting 1683 01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:41,280 married within a month of the husband dying and all this stuff 1684 01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:43,680 like it's. Or not even married, right? 1685 01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:45,920 Just. Becoming a YEAH and taking care 1686 01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:51,200 of care of a sickly woman for 515 years, the wife for 15 1687 01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:55,440 years. I was livid for him and I could 1688 01:41:55,440 --> 01:41:59,320 see why he was so angry. Yeah. 1689 01:41:59,440 --> 01:42:02,640 No, it's it's. So rough, it's so rough. 1690 01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:06,960 So how did you guys feel about this and did you guys have 1691 01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:12,600 thoughts on the mom and his reaction to her and the final 1692 01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:15,600 moments with him and the trip that they take? 1693 01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:19,640 Well, yeah, I mean, she, she comes across as so frail and so 1694 01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:20,880 weak. And everyone's like, why are 1695 01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:22,480 you? Why are you so mean to her? 1696 01:42:22,480 --> 01:42:24,520 You know, why don't you take care of her? 1697 01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:25,920 She look at her, she's so little. 1698 01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:31,320 And then you find out why. And it's like, oh, it's, it's, 1699 01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:34,040 it's, yeah, there's layers upon layers in this drama. 1700 01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:37,280 And they do a good job of. And like, again, there's no 1701 01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:39,880 winners. You know, it's just like, yeah, 1702 01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:43,480 you're not totally wrong to hate this person, but you know, you 1703 01:42:43,480 --> 01:42:47,360 gotta do what you need to do sometimes to, to mend these 1704 01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:48,880 relationships. So. 1705 01:42:49,120 --> 01:42:51,920 There's a shit show that happens in Mokpo because they go to the 1706 01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:56,840 step dads memorial service. I was like going like this, like 1707 01:42:57,560 --> 01:43:02,240 I wanted to flip a table and I wanted to not go to that 1708 01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:05,840 memorial service as much as he did or did not want to go 1709 01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:09,520 because why the fuck would he? Would you want to go to that 1710 01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:12,280 guy's memorial service and see the brothers again? 1711 01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:16,840 And it ended up being even let like only one brother was there 1712 01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:20,240 was that brother was there. None of the grandkids, step 1713 01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:25,400 grandkids were there even. And yeah, EB Young's character 1714 01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:27,240 is indignant. He's crass. 1715 01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:30,640 It ignites this fight between him and the abusive stepbrother 1716 01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:33,480 who beat him to bits when they were younger. 1717 01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:36,560 And the and the mom comes through. 1718 01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:38,720 Actually says. Shame him. 1719 01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:41,160 Finally. Finally. 1720 01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:46,080 Finally that he because the stepbrother starts blaming him 1721 01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:48,440 for the death of the dad. And I was like, whoa, whoa, 1722 01:43:48,440 --> 01:43:50,520 whoa, whoa. Then the mom comes through. 1723 01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:54,080 Yeah, the dad was a knuck. 30 years too late. 1724 01:43:54,160 --> 01:43:59,240 She's defending him and saying no, your dad was an alcoholic 1725 01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:03,720 who got drunk and hurt himself after you sold off his boats and 1726 01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:07,400 basically lost his fortune. Wasn't we're in the process of 1727 01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:13,360 losing his fortune? Not that measly $20,000 that my 1728 01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:18,720 son stole that had nothing to do with why he ended up basically 1729 01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:21,720 bedridden for the rest of his life or something and died. 1730 01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:26,880 So the mom sticks up for him and sets things straight with facts 1731 01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:29,920 and tells the fan that there's nothing her son should be 1732 01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:33,200 apologizing for. And she's super agitated all of 1733 01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:36,920 a sudden because she's so passive the rest of the show. 1734 01:44:37,480 --> 01:44:40,040 And you're so surprised. You're thinking at this point 1735 01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:42,320 you're thinking we're going to get some more When he confronts 1736 01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:46,480 her and our starts asking her shit, she's going to apologize 1737 01:44:46,480 --> 01:44:48,600 or she's going to say something really profound. 1738 01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:56,080 Brandon and Curtis when he asked her why didn't you ever 1739 01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:59,720 apologize to me? It seemed like you were aware of 1740 01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:02,000 how difficult my life was because of you. 1741 01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:06,640 Do you even feel sorry? Do you really feel sorry about 1742 01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:08,560 how you mistreated me and hurt me? 1743 01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:15,440 She says Why should I feel sorry about you? 1744 01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:20,000 And I nearly shut off the TVI was like, Oh no, no, no, no, no, 1745 01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:23,160 we're back to square one. We're back to square one. 1746 01:45:23,640 --> 01:45:28,800 Because I genuinely still can't understand why she wouldn't 1747 01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:32,360 apologize. He's asking for it. 1748 01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:38,560 He's confronting her directly and she's still like, I can't 1749 01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:40,720 think of anything I need to apologize for. 1750 01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:44,720 She just said all that shit in front of those people. 1751 01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:49,160 It was mind boggling. It was mind boggling to me. 1752 01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:54,440 It was bothering me. I think maybe, maybe in her mind 1753 01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:56,760 she's like, well, I kept you alive. 1754 01:45:56,760 --> 01:46:00,120 Look, you're still alive. You know, a bare minimum of 1755 01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:03,040 mothering is keep your kid from dying. 1756 01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:07,480 And she did that. I think that's right, Curtis. 1757 01:46:07,480 --> 01:46:10,840 And, you know, not everyone becomes a mother by because they 1758 01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:15,240 want to for some people it it that that's the the cards that 1759 01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:18,040 they're dealt. And she, I think you mentioned 1760 01:46:18,040 --> 01:46:22,480 this earlier, Curtis, she did what she had to do to get 1761 01:46:22,480 --> 01:46:27,200 herself by and make sure that her son had a roof over his 1762 01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:29,680 head. Yes, I'm sure it hurt her. 1763 01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:33,800 Maybe, maybe not seeing her kid get beat, but at least he got 1764 01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:39,280 some meals, you know, had a house and and she is not 1765 01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:42,480 educated, right. I don't think she even went to 1766 01:46:42,480 --> 01:46:46,320 school. So honestly, how can you really, 1767 01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:48,120 you know, she she did what she could. 1768 01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:50,880 I think. I, I thought that was a really 1769 01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:55,120 raw moment because between IB Young on and the mom, they're 1770 01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:58,080 saying, I don't owe you any apologies. 1771 01:46:58,840 --> 01:47:02,360 But externally she still defended him against the 1772 01:47:02,360 --> 01:47:03,800 brothers, which I thought was nice. 1773 01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:10,680 I was confused because she still has this feels this pull toward 1774 01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:15,360 this family that did not appreciate her, did not love 1775 01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:19,200 her, treated her like shit, treated her son even worse. 1776 01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:23,000 And she's still like, let me go over there and run this memorial 1777 01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:27,600 service and bring them food and go to their weddings and and I 1778 01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:31,520 was like, she treated that family so well. 1779 01:47:32,320 --> 01:47:35,240 And in my mind, I'm like for what? 1780 01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:39,200 Like to what end? Like there was nothing there, no 1781 01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:42,080 blood like there, You know what I'm saying? 1782 01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:47,600 Like I was confused about their sure loyalty to them and her 1783 01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:54,880 lack of loyalty to her son. And absolutely I felt way less 1784 01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:58,560 angry at her when you put it in perspective that she was a 1785 01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:00,680 simpleton. She had no education, she was 1786 01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:04,920 illiterate, literally into her. She was imminently dying of 1787 01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:08,240 cancer and she was still learning her AB CS, very 1788 01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:11,880 infantile of a personality. And she had this survivalist 1789 01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:15,120 mentality where she was just like, I just need to eat. 1790 01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:17,840 I just need a roof over my head. I just need this. 1791 01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:21,800 I just need that. And despite all that, I was 1792 01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:26,000 like, OK, but now he's an adult. You don't need to do shit for 1793 01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:27,880 him. And he is. 1794 01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:32,440 You know he's hurt. He went no contact for years. 1795 01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:36,480 You know he's hurt. That's your blood, Sun. 1796 01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:43,800 Why would you not say I'm sorry like I did the best I could? 1797 01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:45,760 Yeah. I know. 1798 01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:50,960 She's just said why would I feel like it was such the wording as 1799 01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:52,040 well? Like I'm sure it was a 1800 01:48:52,040 --> 01:48:55,560 translation but I was like, this is the worst thing you could 1801 01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:56,880 possibly say. Yeah. 1802 01:48:57,720 --> 01:49:01,720 As well, so it was a lot of things at play. 1803 01:49:02,480 --> 01:49:06,240 Yeah, unless there, unless her, her unless her long game was OK, 1804 01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:08,640 let me show up at this memorial service and finally tell these 1805 01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:11,680 people off in front of my son. Unless that was her long game, 1806 01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:15,200 which I don't know if that was. I mean, it worked out that 1807 01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:18,160 that's how it turned out. But yeah, I don't know why she 1808 01:49:18,160 --> 01:49:20,120 would it. Literally made no sense to me. 1809 01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:24,320 OK, anyway, well. I think Korea is just very big 1810 01:49:24,440 --> 01:49:31,240 on tradition, especially when it, you know, there is the the 1811 01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:34,240 mothers doing air quotes, you know, responsibilities. 1812 01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:38,280 And I think there's also a concept in Korea called Chung. 1813 01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:42,480 It just means that when you've spent enough time with someone, 1814 01:49:42,480 --> 01:49:46,080 even if you're not related, you just develop some type of bond. 1815 01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:50,920 And so my thought was she just spent so many years with this 1816 01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:57,360 family and she was technically the, the matriarch, I guess of 1817 01:49:57,360 --> 01:49:59,920 that immediate family. You know, she still needed to do 1818 01:49:59,920 --> 01:50:05,000 her, her duties every year. And so I, I didn't think too 1819 01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:09,160 much of that to be honest. OK, Yeah, I don't think I've 1820 01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:12,480 spoken about Chung. Maybe in the My Mr. episode 1821 01:50:12,480 --> 01:50:19,240 Chung came up, but yeah, I again, this is the level one of 1822 01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:24,440 Chung versus level 10. Maybe because there I they hated 1823 01:50:24,440 --> 01:50:26,720 her like they they were like, why are you here? 1824 01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:31,000 Why did you call like, Oh my God, it was the worst. 1825 01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:35,600 It was the worst. I she was so unloved and then 1826 01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:38,600 she still went back to it was like bad habit. 1827 01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:41,920 It was like a bad habit. Anyway, she dies. 1828 01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:46,160 It is awful. The no music when she passes was 1829 01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:50,400 a powerful choice to me. And then he decides to lie next 1830 01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:53,920 to her and hugs her body and cries and calls her mom over and 1831 01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:55,960 over again. Something that he refused to do 1832 01:50:55,960 --> 01:50:58,600 throughout the show was call her mom. 1833 01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:03,600 And the voiceover just like is like a nice little bow. 1834 01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:07,120 Wraps it up real nicely. She never said she loved me or 1835 01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:10,760 that she was sorry. My mom, Kangak Song, made a bowl 1836 01:51:10,760 --> 01:51:14,920 of my favorite food, Donjiang soup, a Sue. 1837 01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:16,920 Then she returned to where she used to be. 1838 01:51:16,920 --> 01:51:19,440 I hugged my dead mom's body and cried. 1839 01:51:19,440 --> 01:51:20,840 That's when I realized something. 1840 01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:23,720 I had never resented her my entire life. 1841 01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:26,480 I just wanted to embrace and reconcile with her. 1842 01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:30,800 I just wanted to hug her for a very long time and cry as much 1843 01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:33,120 as I wanted. And I was like, he just wanted 1844 01:51:33,120 --> 01:51:35,760 his mom. And she was always like, I'm not 1845 01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:36,720 your mom. I'm your aunt. 1846 01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:40,160 And I'm like, we're not going to unpack this like this. 1847 01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:41,760 You know what I'm saying? Like. 1848 01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:45,200 She. Wanted it, but didn't want it. 1849 01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:49,520 Yeah, well, so he's got, he's got time. 1850 01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:52,080 He was. He's heartbreaking faggot. 1851 01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:57,120 The next heartbreaking 70 years. Anyway, I love the show and I'm 1852 01:51:57,160 --> 01:52:01,040 so glad that both of you love the show and we're into doing 1853 01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:05,160 this episode with me and covering, I think most of the 1854 01:52:05,160 --> 01:52:08,120 storylines, if not, no, I think a couple of them were left off, 1855 01:52:08,120 --> 01:52:10,200 but that's fine. We did pretty. 1856 01:52:10,280 --> 01:52:11,880 Good. I think we did pretty good. 1857 01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:14,800 Yeah, we did most of that. Two hours later, but. 1858 01:52:15,240 --> 01:52:17,240 That's fine. Thanks, Lee. 1859 01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:19,320 If listeners, if you're still listening, thanks for sticking 1860 01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:20,960 it out man. We appreciate it. 1861 01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:23,960 Do you guys? So real quick the storyline that 1862 01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:28,360 I hate, I've not hated, but that I disliked the most was actually 1863 01:52:28,360 --> 01:52:31,800 the umjong and unis storyline. I thought that one was the 1864 01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:34,320 weakest but I'm curious like which one did you guys like the 1865 01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:37,480 least? So that one hit me like a ton of 1866 01:52:37,480 --> 01:52:41,840 bricks because I was the unni in a relationship when I was 1867 01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:47,160 growing up and I had a friend who looked like Pocahontas and 1868 01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:53,920 she was the in the relationship and it it hit me like a ton of 1869 01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:56,360 bricks. I I felt deeply for that 1870 01:52:56,360 --> 01:52:58,160 relationship. So it's personal to you. 1871 01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:02,160 Yeah, so I. I mean, it wasn't bad, but it 1872 01:53:02,160 --> 01:53:04,280 yeah, it wasn't this, no. Compared to everything, you're 1873 01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:06,800 kind of like, but yeah, it's deep. 1874 01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:09,760 It was deep and it's real for for me, maybe for a lot of 1875 01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:11,240 people. But yeah. 1876 01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:15,600 So thank you guys again for coming on and for coming on for 1877 01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:17,400 a really long time to talk about this show. 1878 01:53:17,440 --> 01:53:19,600 Thank you for having us. Before we get out of here, where 1879 01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:23,520 can we find you guys online? Probably Instagram is best for 1880 01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:26,680 me at Infatuation podcast. You'll see updates there. 1881 01:53:27,840 --> 01:53:31,840 And you can find us at Poach a Playlist across all of social 1882 01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:35,240 media and anywhere that you like to listen to your podcasts. 1883 01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:37,880 Awesome. Well, that's been our show. 1884 01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:41,480 I'm Jessica and this has been the Teba K Rambles podcast. 1885 01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:50,880 And just take it off and nothing without your love. 1886 01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:56,920 I promise I'll never leave your love. 1887 01:53:57,120 --> 01:54:00,520 My heart is beating because of you. 1888 01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:10,680 Forever and ever and ever. Holy, you can't take my heart, 1889 01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:19,440 dear. My love, love, love, I want a 1890 01:54:19,480 --> 01:54:24,360 thing with you.