1 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,240 I'm Jessica and this is T about K Rambles. 2 00:00:21,240 --> 00:00:24,520 We're a couple of friends review Korean dramas and we're back for 3 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,560 another season 6 episode. We're going to cover when the 4 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:34,520 phone rings and I got with me my friend Carol from the K Drama 5 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,880 Musings podcast. Carol, what is up? 6 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,200 How are you? New year, what's going on? 7 00:00:41,480 --> 00:00:43,360 Hi. Hi, everyone. 8 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,160 This is my first podcast recording of the year. 9 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:52,160 I'm very excited to be here. I'm doing OK. 10 00:00:52,160 --> 00:00:57,080 I'm just getting off of a cold, so forgive my voice, but I'm 11 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,960 doing OK. I'm ready to talk about when the 12 00:00:59,960 --> 00:01:04,560 phone rings. Listen, the show had me in a 13 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,840 chokehold until it didn't. And I'm trying to. 14 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,120 I was telling Jess, I'm trying to figure out, am I going to 15 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:18,640 like go hard and be in defense of the show or am I? 16 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,000 We'll see. We'll see, We'll see. 17 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,000 We'll stay tuned. So this episode came about 18 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:29,360 because we were set to record an episode on Love Next Door, and 19 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:34,800 what ended up happening was I dropped that show and Carol, you 20 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,880 managed to finish it. And so we ended up getting 21 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,040 together for a debrief. Episode. 22 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,000 On just the Patreon feed and we had a lot of fun. 23 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,720 We talked a lot of shit and I I was like, well, we had to like 24 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,080 do something else because I really do love recording with 25 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:50,800 you. I I want to get something up on 26 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:55,360 the on the real feed for Tibock. And when the phone rings was 27 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,960 taken the Airways by storm. Everyone was watching when the 28 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,960 phone rings. You were really excited about it 29 00:01:59,960 --> 00:02:01,920 and posting about it on social media. 30 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,120 And I was like, Carol, if I start when the phone rings, like 31 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,320 do you want to make that our replacement Love Next Door 32 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,080 episode on the Tibock feed? And you said, yeah, absolutely 33 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:11,800 for sure. Yeah. 34 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,560 I almost didn't even finish when the phone rings. 35 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,000 You were at. One point, like you got real 36 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,840 quiet about when the phone rings on your social and I was like, 37 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,200 this isn't looking good. And I messaged you and I was 38 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,120 like, Carol, are you still on for that? 39 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,680 Like, 'cause I can push through and like finish this show if you 40 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,440 want to do the episode. And you were like, we don't have 41 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:38,800 to like you were even like, we don't have to do anything. 42 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,280 And I was. Like. 43 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,680 Are you sure? Long story short. 44 00:02:42,920 --> 00:02:44,720 We're here, we're going to do it. 45 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,560 We have gathered some thoughts together about this show, about 46 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,680 this experience, and we're ready to like do a mini deep dive. 47 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,960 I really don't expect us to be here for like a 2 hour shindig, 48 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,520 but like, here we go. But before we do all this, 49 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,920 before we unleash, if this is your first time listening, go 50 00:03:02,920 --> 00:03:05,040 ahead and subscribe on your favorite podcast app. 51 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,360 What an interesting episode to jump in on. 52 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,760 We are on Apple Podcast, Spotify, Google Podcast and many 53 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,640 more. 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All right, we're gonna get into 74 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,240 this, Carol. OK. 75 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,040 OK. I have a disclaimer. 76 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,800 Yes, please. Please, any trigger warnings, 77 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,000 disclaimers, anything you wanna put at the front of this. 78 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:33,160 Two things #1 if you do follow me on social media, by now 79 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,160 you've seen the trend of me going so silent. 80 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:43,600 It just it just, you know, it could either mean I hate it, I'm 81 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,160 embarrassed, I don't want to talk about it anymore, or it 82 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:51,440 could be like just a personal experience for me, OK. 83 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:59,160 Yeah. #2 this was a fever dream and I stand on back when the 84 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,560 phone rings was a fever dream that I am here to defend. 85 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:08,320 So let's get into it all right. So the My Drama List synopsis 86 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,400 reads picks on. The youngest presidential 87 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,840 spokesman in Korea comes from a prestigious political family. 88 00:05:15,840 --> 00:05:21,080 His background includes roles as a war correspondent, OK hostage 89 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,480 negotiator and news anchor. Three years ago, he married Hong 90 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,600 Hiju, a mute sign language interpreter and the adopted 91 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,760 second daughter of a newspaper proprietor. 92 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,280 Maybe you could say media mogul. I feel like that's a better way 93 00:05:34,280 --> 00:05:36,120 to say what her family is and does. 94 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,920 Their marriage, based on convenience has been distant and 95 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,600 cold. However, when Hiju is kidnapped, 96 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,280 their lives and relationship are changed. 97 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,440 This show is adapted from the web novel The Number You Have 98 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,480 Dialed by Con O Munyo. I hope I said that right. 99 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:59,320 It has taken us by storm in just a few months, November 2024 100 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,320 through January 2025, it was airing. 101 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:07,520 And I think it was delayed a few times because of, I don't know, 102 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,200 the impeachment of the South Korean president. 103 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,840 And some other factors have pushed some episodes into 2025. 104 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:21,000 Because it's only 12 episodes long, there really should be no 105 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,760 reason why I was airing for three months. 106 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,800 But here we are. It's directed by Pak Sangu. 107 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:31,520 He's also directed The Forbidden Marriage, Never Twice and My 108 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,440 Secret Terrius, which I really do want to watch My Secret 109 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:35,560 Terrius. I've heard really good things 110 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,320 about that one, and I personally liked The Forbidden Marriage. 111 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,640 Have you seen this director's work before? 112 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:48,320 Yes, I've I've seen all of it and hit or miss, but generally I 113 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,280 like it. All right, this show is written 114 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,280 by or adapted you could say by Kim Jong Un. 115 00:06:54,720 --> 00:07:00,640 She has written Melancholia, Doctor John, Hi, Juggle me and 116 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,920 Tong Dong Dong Alice. When I saw she had written Tong 117 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:08,240 Dong Dong Alice I was like what a throwback. 118 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:13,920 That is a 20/12/2013 show that I remember vividly dropping. 119 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,200 Did you watch these shows? I did. 120 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,480 I did. I OK. 121 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:27,680 Chung Dung Dong Alice with Mungo in, I believe her name was. 122 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,800 Yeah, I watched it. I didn't drop it back then. 123 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,760 I didn't know how to drop a drama. 124 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,000 It just wasn't. Yeah, but hi, Jekyll and and me, 125 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:43,360 I watched it and I think I liked it at the time, but I tried to 126 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:50,640 watch it again recently and I was like, Oh no, no, OK, but I 127 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,200 haven't watched. I didn't watch Melancholia. 128 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:58,720 It's not my genre. This show stars you young suck 129 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,520 as Pixon. He's our male lead. 130 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,000 He is 40 years old. I just wanna say that 'cause I 131 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:09,560 feel like there's a movement online that's like, you can't 132 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,400 have age gaps, You can have people that are different ages. 133 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:16,480 And I'm the first one to cry about an inappropriate age gap. 134 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,280 He's 40 years old. No one said a word. 135 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,960 No one said shit about him being 40. 136 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,480 Chase Subin is the female lead playing Hong Yi Jo. 137 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,680 She's 30. That's a 10 year double digit 138 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,360 age gap here. OK, 10 years. 139 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,960 Ten years. No one said anything about it 140 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:38,360 but like The thing is, it's the same people that are salivating 141 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,080 over this show with a 10 year age gap between the leads. 142 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,320 Yeah. That bitch about the four years 143 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,200 in 2521? Between those. 2 characters. 144 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:56,720 Well, if you think about 30 and 40, that's different from 20 145 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,680 something and whatever they were and. 146 00:09:00,680 --> 00:09:02,160 People were like, she's in high school. 147 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:06,400 He's a grown man. I'm like, it's four years, OK. 148 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,640 I don't want to get into 2521 'cause I feel like I did. 149 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:14,400 We did cover that aspect in the review for it, but oh, I wanted 150 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:19,400 to say we did cover Mr. Sunshine from 2018, which is a Yu Yun Suk 151 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,440 drama that is the best he's ever looked. 152 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:27,160 I I was going to say I agree but. 153 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,760 Where are you? Where are you drawing the line 154 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,640 here? I personally like him. 155 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:37,840 I like Yu Yun Suk in terms of the best. 156 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,600 You know that. I call it the mane of glory, the 157 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:46,560 little mustache that was sexy, that was sexy, that was really, 158 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:49,880 really hot. But in this drama, I don't know 159 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,480 whether it was just him wearing black. 160 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,360 Maybe it was the whole like, I don't know. 161 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:57,560 I don't know. It worked. 162 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,480 It worked for me. Yeah, it worked for me. 163 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,160 OK, that was a discussion that I was having in the DMS too, 164 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,120 because I was like, I don't really get. 165 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,680 I mean, he's a wonderful actor. I've seen him in Mr. Sunshine 166 00:10:09,680 --> 00:10:14,600 Hospital Playlist, a werewolf boy movie from 2012 where he's 167 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,960 just awful, awful feeling character, the Royal Taylor, the 168 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,320 beauty inside, more, more of his movie stuff. 169 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,520 I vividly remember watching Reply in 1994 and thinking this 170 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:30,840 guy's ugly, so we're here. We're here all these years 171 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:35,640 later, over 10 years later, and I'm now realizing that people 172 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,720 really think he's attractive. You know. 173 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:43,080 And that's why I was like, oh, that's a sword for me. 174 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,200 But I, I. Swear for me but that's OK, I'm 175 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,440 not going to yuck your Yum. But it's surprising especially 176 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:54,000 now because he's ever since hospital playlist I feel people 177 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,280 have been talking about him. He's he's around circulating on 178 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,840 the socials and that's fine. Great love to see it for him. 179 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:06,760 Love that for him. But personally, he is baseline, 180 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,880 not my cup of tea, OK? For me personally, please don't 181 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,880 come for me and be like, oh, how can you think that way? 182 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,400 It's me. In my opinion, OK doesn't do it 183 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:21,480 for me, except for Mr. Sunshine. Oh my God, I was losing my shit 184 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,680 at Mr. Sunshine. He was fantastic. 185 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,400 Fantastic. He was, he was amazing. 186 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:31,200 Performance wise, looks wise. Just the the outfits he was 187 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:37,560 wearing and I think he is. I think a little bit more flesh 188 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,840 works for me. I feel that I'll just leave it 189 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,440 at. That I feel that, so I want to 190 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,400 put that at the top. Chesubin, What's your experience 191 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,120 with Chesubin, the female lead? Oh, I was. 192 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,320 I was going to come on really strong and I had. 193 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,000 To I thought you like check yourself. 194 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,840 What happened there? I remember it. 195 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,120 I got to be politically correct. She's not my favorite. 196 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:05,600 I do not like to watch her. In fact, I had no plans to watch 197 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,920 this drama, so I didn't know anything about the drama. 198 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:12,240 And when I hit episode one play, I was really watching for him 199 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:18,560 and I was like, you know what? Her expression is the same from 200 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:23,400 episode 1 to 12, but it works for her character, so let's move 201 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,000 on, OK? Let's just move on. 202 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,880 I really loved I'm Not a Robot, and that's the thing that I 203 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,720 remember her most from. Me too with the. 204 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,160 Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yui Sung Ho. 205 00:12:38,560 --> 00:12:39,520 Uh huh. Yes. 206 00:12:39,560 --> 00:12:41,920 Yes, that was good. That was good. 207 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:47,080 So what did you think about when the phone rings, Carol? 208 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:52,200 OK, with the mind that it was a fever dream, right? 209 00:12:52,680 --> 00:12:55,280 OK, I thought it was really entertaining. 210 00:12:55,520 --> 00:13:03,840 I will Episode 1 to like four. I was just like, OK, it took me 211 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:09,160 a while, but the endings always had me hooked to see what would 212 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,120 happen next. So I was like, OK, OK, I'll keep 213 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,360 watching. And then you rolled up. 214 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,800 It's just. The look on your face, the 215 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,280 furrow of the brows, You're just looking and you're looking 216 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,040 around the room like where's the where's the camera? 217 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,840 And I was watching this and I was just like, I'm not even 218 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:33,640 using my brain. There is like so much drama in 219 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,920 my real life. This, this makes my drama look 220 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,160 like peanuts. So I'm enjoying it, right? 221 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,240 And then we get to like 5 and 6 and I'm like. 222 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,680 When the Nigerian comes out, I just, I love it. 223 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,560 Didn't this guy say he's really smart? 224 00:13:55,880 --> 00:14:00,040 And what's going on? I don't know. 225 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,560 No. OK, Carol, just keep, just keep 226 00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:04,680 trucking along. By like bring it in. 227 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,560 Really. Episode 6. 228 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,160 Wait wait wait wait. No spoilers. 229 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,840 Not spoilers, but you could say episode 6. 230 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:19,720 OK, episode 6 just the we woke up in episode 7 and it was just 231 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,120 like, Oh yeah, episode 6 happened. 232 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,440 I was just like, oh, you guys are taking me for fools. 233 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,920 Oh, oh, so I'm, I'm really sitting here. 234 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,760 You didn't even give me memory loss. 235 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,360 I would have preferred memory loss. 236 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,160 I would have loved a little bit of amnesia. 237 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:47,640 It would have felt like home, but you robbed me of a memory 238 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,560 loss. We're going to have to start 239 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:55,960 there in the spoiler section, but I'll jump in here and say I 240 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,600 started watching the show again. Didn't know any, never read the 241 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,040 webtoon, never read anything or knew anything about the drama. 242 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,320 I just knew it was popular and people were really enjoying it. 243 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,080 And you young suck as a panty dropper. 244 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:12,120 Oh news to me. OK, so I showed up episode 1 and 245 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:17,320 again, I bring it up because in episode 1 he comes in with a 246 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,040 flourish and he's the talk of this party. 247 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,760 But this isn't a spoiler, but people are going Oh my God, he's 248 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,840 so handsome. And you can hear it in the bad 249 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,880 English that they have circulating in this scene and in 250 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,080 the subtitles. They're also calling attention 251 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,680 to the fact that he's so good looking. 252 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:42,040 And I'm like, unfortunately that's not working on me. 253 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,440 Like to to gaslight me into thinking that he's good looking 254 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,920 but OK. The suits didn't work for you. 255 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:49,160 No. He looks great. 256 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,280 He looks sharp, he looks fresh when I stop him on the street 257 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:53,480 and be like, can I have your number? 258 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,480 No. OK, OK. 259 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,960 No, but the again personal thing. 260 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,360 So I was already kind of like thrown with the some of that 261 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,160 gaslighting too. It's the same thing that if an 262 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:09,200 obviously good looking person is playing what's supposed to be an 263 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,160 ugly character and everyone in the show is saying, God, they're 264 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,600 so ugly, I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? 265 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,640 That's how I felt. Yeah, true. 266 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,280 Oh, true beauty. Anyway, another episode you can 267 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,720 scroll back to and listen to because that was another crazy 268 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,320 one. But I'm already on my guard, on 269 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,240 guard here, like looking around. Where's the next thing that 270 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:31,520 they're going to try and make me believe? 271 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,840 And The thing is, I didn't have to wait too long. 272 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,920 This plot is preposterous. It's ludicrous. 273 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:41,560 This isn't a a spoiler, but like, she has selective mutism. 274 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,520 That's the story in episode 1. And I'm like, all right, all 275 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,240 right, it's a thing. It's real. 276 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:52,040 But already I'm like, this is going down a path that I don't 277 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,760 think I want to follow. But after episode 1, I was like, 278 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,800 you know what? Let me just shut my brain off. 279 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,200 Thank you. You critical thinking babes. 280 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,320 Yeah. I'm like, you know what? 281 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,440 Let me just shut it down. I'll watch this. 282 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,440 And I was coasting through each episode. 283 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,200 I did not think it was particularly amazing. 284 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,800 I did not think it was binge worthy. 285 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,359 I did not think that this was the best show in the planet. 286 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,079 I did not think their chemistry. I've never seen this kind of 287 00:17:19,079 --> 00:17:21,280 chemistry before in my life. No, no, no. 288 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:22,920 I was just. That's true. 289 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,560 Chill. I was chill watching the show, 290 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,200 happy as a clam. Like it was a nothing show, 291 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,000 whatever. Then episode 6 happens and I was 292 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,680 like, if you guys aren't going to fucking take this seriously, 293 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,160 Like I almost, I almost shut off the whole show. 294 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:39,480 I was like, you know what I remember? 295 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,880 You DM me and she's like Carol, explain yourself. 296 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,200 I'm like, what are you having? To explain. 297 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,840 Because we had already agreed that we were going to do this 298 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,400 episode review. And I was like, Carol, you need 299 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,000 to talk me through this because I'm struggling here. 300 00:17:58,360 --> 00:17:59,960 I can't believe they did this thing. 301 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,880 It really didn't improve after that for me. 302 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,760 Then I stopped watching at episode 10 and I was like, OK, 303 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,440 I'll watch other things like Squid Game. 304 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,520 I'll watch finish watching No game no love. 305 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,960 I'll watch spice up our love. I'll I'll watch anything but 306 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:20,120 this until this thing finishes and I got some time on my hands 307 00:18:20,120 --> 00:18:25,400 to finish out the show. Girl, when I saw the visceral 308 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:32,320 reaction to the final two episodes, I busted a gut from 309 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:37,320 laughing. I was so entertained by the 310 00:18:37,360 --> 00:18:42,200 uproar, the backlash, so to speak, to the final two 311 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,880 episodes. And I was like, oh, now 312 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,280 everybody thinks it's a bad show. 313 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,480 And The thing is. I don't know if people have 314 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,640 necessarily watched Makjiang before. 315 00:18:55,360 --> 00:18:57,160 You know, that's a fair comment, This. 316 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,480 Show was a crash course in Makjiang. 317 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,480 Yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree. 318 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:08,960 By like episode 11, people had taken enough ibuprofen and they 319 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:14,440 were just like, hang on, now I'm I'm getting some clarity. 320 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,080 I'm. I'm gaining enlightenment here. 321 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,680 It's. Like what is going on? 322 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:25,920 A lot of questions, very few answers, plot holes that were 323 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,920 really plot chasms and a lot of people didn't seem to care about 324 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,680 it until the final episode. I was genuinely shocked and 325 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,880 enthused by the reaction. I will. 326 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:45,040 I will say I was one of those people who by the ending I was 327 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,960 absolutely pissed off. Not because I was just like, 328 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,600 where's the growth of this character? 329 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:57,560 Talk about it. Where is the sense with this 330 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:02,120 character? You're supposedly a really smart 331 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:07,960 go to person and then you pull a oh, I'm leaving to punish 332 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,400 myself? What? 333 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,000 I thought you said you wanted this person in your life and you 334 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,280 want to spend time with them and then you just ghost them because 335 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:23,720 you feel so bad and you knew your wife knows and she still 336 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:28,040 chose you and you still dipped and then you're now dashing 337 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:32,240 people money in this economy left and right and you expect me 338 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:39,160 to be OK with like I I just, I didn't understand why he ghosted 339 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,880 her. I I can sort of I didn't like 340 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,080 the whole job. Let's. 341 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,040 Keep Let's keep non spoiler section so we'll talk about the 342 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,800 ending in depth and the spoilers like. 343 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,240 My bad, my bad. I just got heated. 344 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,440 No, it's OK. It's OK. 345 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,280 We'll get real heated, I'm sure, in the spoiler section. 346 00:20:55,880 --> 00:21:00,680 But I I agree with you in that there were plot holes. 347 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:05,000 I remember sitting in my couch and I was talking to myself and 348 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,200 I was talking to like, I had two personalities. 349 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:13,480 I was like, you know, I can excuse plot holes, but I draw 350 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:18,160 the line at incompetence police. And my other person is like, you 351 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,640 can excuse plot holes. Yeah. 352 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,400 What the heck? The cop incompetence police just 353 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:29,800 pissed me off and I and that's when I was finally like I'm not 354 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,200 really liking this show. I don't like incompetence 355 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:37,480 police, but somehow plot holes are fine so we move. 356 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,160 I have said this before and I will keep saying it. 357 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,240 I am a plot person. If the plot don't make no sense, 358 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:50,440 I just don't coast by on vibes and aura like that doesn't work 359 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:51,880 for me. Yeah, I get you. 360 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:56,480 And The thing is, I can get interesting vibes, sexy vibes, 361 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:01,600 whatever from a TikTok edit from a photo shoot that this couple 362 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,640 does, and I can get that high from that. 363 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:10,120 But if I'm sitting there to watch an hour long show and it 364 00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:14,640 don't make no sense, you're telling me a story like you're 365 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,680 storytelling. That's that's what I'm here for. 366 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,240 And the story is not making no sense. 367 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,880 That's when I'm like, you know what? 368 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,400 No, and I've said this before too, I'm not a mock Jung person. 369 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,800 I got scared by the last Empress. 370 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,280 I got real scared. And. 371 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,080 This show gave Last Empress vibes. 372 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,400 It's real mock Jung and I. I don't think people were 373 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,000 prepared for it. I don't know if it was 374 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,920 necessarily marketed as such. I don't know. 375 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:44,080 I don't know what went wrong. But you know, from episode 1, 376 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,880 you could tell this was stupid. Like it was going to be 377 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,960 unbelievable. And yeah, you have to suspend 378 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,960 your disbelief, but up to what point? 379 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,960 Up to episode 6. Up to episode 6. 380 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,720 For me, it was Episode 6. I wasn't going, this is a 381 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,600 masterpiece. This is my favorite couple ever 382 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,480 and and that's what I was seeing like everywhere. 383 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,200 I don't. I will never say they were my 384 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:16,600 favorite couple, but I will say that personally for me, when we 385 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:22,560 are talking about top dramas of 2024 in my list, it's up there 386 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:28,760 because it gave me something. Yeah, I think it gave you more 387 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,080 than it gave anything to me. Exactly. 388 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,400 Which is why I was excited to cover 'cause I was like, OK, 389 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,760 Carol loves it. Fantastic. 390 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,800 And. Then I went silent. 391 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:44,760 I just feel like last year did not give and to have that at the 392 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,680 end of the year, and I love a mahjong, I'm always seated for a 393 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:53,840 mahjong, but to have that at the end of the year felt very, it 394 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:59,200 had me like dissing people out loud in my own space. 395 00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:06,760 It gave me a reaction, which is what I wanted versus the trunk, 396 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:11,880 which I didn't really react to it like on social media 397 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,280 especially, but that has been on. 398 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:19,000 I've seen it 6 Times Now, but that has like constantly been on 399 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:23,240 my mind where I'm thinking. So that was my plot, if you 400 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,360 will. I know that's controversial. 401 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:32,320 That is controversial, okay. But when the phone rings gave me 402 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,320 like crash out. It was. 403 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,080 That's what it is. It allowed me to crash out and 404 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,640 be like yes this is what I needed so. 405 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,120 There's a lot going on in this show and actually like, not that 406 00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:49,480 much going on too. But what was your favorite 407 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,840 character like? Let's get some positives in 408 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:56,960 here. My favorite character, you know, 409 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:04,560 maybe he was so annoying, but he was entertaining the guy in his 410 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,640 office who was like taking the couple pictures and giving him 411 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,640 advice for his wife. Right. 412 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,720 So that's Lim Chul SU is that actor, and he's been in so many 413 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,280 things, right? Yes. 414 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,600 Vincenzo. I remember him in that. 415 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,120 Yeah. I feel like he might have been 416 00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:24,280 in Queen of Tears. As well, I think because of 417 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,560 Vincenzo and his character and that I really. 418 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,960 He got talk about it. He did, but, but I really 419 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,320 thought he would turn out to be a bad guy in this one. 420 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,840 Like that's where my mind was. So when by the end, when I was 421 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,440 like, oh, he's just, he's just just, I was like, well, that's 422 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,800 wasted potential. Right, like we're expecting a 423 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,560 subversion. Yeah, yeah. 424 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,960 Give me something. But yeah, I think I liked him 425 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:59,000 and I liked the male lead because, well. 426 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,120 Because, because Because. Like because he gives good 427 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,880 kissing scenes I will. Not take that from him. 428 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,360 No one's going to take that away from. 429 00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:09,880 I will not take that away from him. 430 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,280 He's a wonderful kisser. What was he doing? 431 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,560 He was like doing them open mouth kisses in this show and 432 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,920 just like eating her up. And yeah, that was great. 433 00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:21,760 Love it. Not going to complain about 434 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,280 that. And she's got a good kiss as 435 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:29,640 well in I'm Not a Robot. That's a damn big kiss that she 436 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,960 has in that show, too. So it's not like she's far 437 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:37,160 behind you young suck. But yeah, I would say my 438 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,840 favorite character has to deal. Well, it's two. 439 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,280 It's the second male lead and the second female lead who ends 440 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,280 up being the second couple in the show because I was like, 441 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,240 let's stick with them. I think there's something there. 442 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:55,800 And I was expecting more exploration of their romance and 443 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,520 just flushing that out more. And we're on like the 10th 444 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,480 kidnapping, and these two are like, nowhere to be seen. 445 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,440 And I'm like, but they're so compelling. 446 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,880 And I don't know, there was something, yeah, interesting 447 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,600 about them. They don't get the time of day 448 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,280 in this show. That's true. 449 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:18,560 The second male lead, there was one moment where I felt like, 450 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,520 oh, is this my bad guy? Like this is what I mean by when 451 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,080 I was watching this show I wasn't watching with any kind of 452 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:31,320 sense because I wasn't like forward thinking. 453 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:36,400 I was going at the pace the show is telling me to go and trying 454 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,840 to figure out who the bad person or bad guy or girl is. 455 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,840 So there was a point where I thought the second male lead, he 456 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,880 tricked me. In my opinion, he was driving 457 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:54,600 her from that orphanage or that rich people house in the car and 458 00:27:54,600 --> 00:28:00,360 the way man turned and looked at her, yeah, and said I know you 459 00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:02,120 can speak or something like that. 460 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:07,440 That moment was very threatening for foreboding to me. 461 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,120 So I was like, oh, is this? Is this my bad guy? 462 00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:11,520 And that's how he's written, right? 463 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,080 He's presumably going to be the second male lead the love 464 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,960 triangle between you and suck character Chase Subin and then 465 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:24,400 this guy who's Ho Nam Jun that actor and he plays Sangu and 466 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,880 that would have been fine. That would have been perfectly 467 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,520 adequate. And then they changed it and 468 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:34,080 were like, is this second male lead actually the villain and in 469 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,200 on this plot and somehow pulling strings and you don't know and 470 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,120 he sort of knows too much and what's going on here. 471 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,560 Why is he inserting himself in this investigation? 472 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,120 And I don't know. And maybe maybe the fact that 473 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:52,200 he's a YouTube, what was he, he was like a doctor YouTube who, 474 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,680 which have workout videos of himself, like shirtless and 475 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,840 working out in the gym. And I'm like, OK, this guy 476 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,440 exists. Like, first of all, second of 477 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:07,040 all, yeah, I can believe a YouTube is sketchy and yeah, you 478 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,080 know, has this double life or whatever, all of that taken 479 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,800 together. It it was a lot of misdirections 480 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,280 and red herrings. And he is a big red herring in 481 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,760 this show. I agree. 482 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,000 Did I hate it? Not really, because it was it 483 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,840 was almost like on the list of concerns, like he's wasted way 484 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,680 down here on the show. But once they kind of clear his 485 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:34,640 name, I'm like, give me more. Like I'm confused, he's fine as 486 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,640 shit, why am I here? That's true. 487 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,680 That's true. And honestly, even for the 488 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,880 reporter or the is she a reporter or like a? 489 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,600 Yeah, she was like a news. Anchor, anchor even for her. 490 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,920 They could have turned up the Mack Jong with her like really 491 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:57,520 going after him in front of her face and she doesn't know she's 492 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,640 the wife. And I expected a, I guess I 493 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,600 expected a richer reveal, like she's the wife. 494 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:11,040 And yeah, they could have done. It was just like a little with 495 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,440 the second couple, like everything about them. 496 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,600 Was. Was just a little lackluster for 497 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:23,200 Dung Cutie that that's the actress who plays Judy, the news 498 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,480 anchor. I just thought she was so nice 499 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,640 and precious and refreshing because I thought from episode 500 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,200 one that she was going to be in this mean girl role because she 501 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,440 could have easily been the mean girl to hate. 502 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,920 You. And that just didn't happen. 503 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:45,120 She was a lot more layered. And I like this, this character 504 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,880 a lot. And again, and she's just 505 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,160 shortchanged in this show. I feel shortchanged with them 506 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,280 too. You know what the show feels 507 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:58,400 like and I want to shout out Marissa from the K3 'cause I 508 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:03,680 visited her and she had this book of Korean, all the Korean 509 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:09,520 actors, and it was sort of like a portfolio to sell them to 510 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,480 Hollywood. This really like from beginning 511 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:21,520 to end it felt like a promo video for you Yun suck to go on 512 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:26,640 to bigger things, it really did. 100 percent, 100% because I'm 513 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,080 not going to fault the show for having a pretty good male weed 514 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,280 who can act his way through a shitty script. 515 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,240 Like I'm sorry to tell you like that happens all the time. 516 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,800 Anywhere you go, Hollywood and obviously K drama land. 517 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,800 You can have a great actors spinning a bad script into gold, 518 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,400 but to me it always it's very telling that they're just doing 519 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,040 the best they can off of a crap script. 520 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,160 Yeah, with what they've got. With what they got like he can 521 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,680 give 110% and he's. Like. 522 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:04,040 Doing something stupid, ridiculous, and that's the whole 523 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,680 show. It's just a lot of ridiculous 524 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,520 and they're doing the best they can. 525 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,760 That's why I can't completely hate it, because they worked 526 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,080 really hard and you can. I don't think I've seen. 527 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:24,200 That I don't fault the actors. True, that's a story. 528 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,840 They don't have anything to do with the scripts. 529 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,200 They don't write it. They didn't write the web novel. 530 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,840 They have really nothing to do with the issues that we're 531 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,440 talking about because they're unless they were acting shit. 532 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,560 They did their job right. Like I'm not mad at Yu Yun Sok, 533 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,000 Chesubin Ho, Nam Jun or Dung Cutie. 534 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,240 They showed up to work like it's a paycheck for them and they did 535 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,280 what they were supposed. To. 536 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,480 They did Pak. Jayun who plays. 537 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,640 The kidnapper. He showed up and did what he. 538 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,280 Was supposed to do. He played crazy, he was chewing 539 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,440 up seeing her, he had these facial ticks and shit. 540 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,840 And I'm like OK, I hope that check. 541 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,560 Cleared. Because he's doing it, he's 542 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,440 doing it. He's showing up it. 543 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,520 It looks crazy, as it should, that whole storyline. 544 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,880 Well, ridiculous. I don't know if we. 545 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,360 Can get into it right now, but did you have a least favorite 546 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,640 character? Least favorite? 547 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:25,480 Character. Oh, I don't know, Actually, 548 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,400 maybe No, I don't. Grandpa. 549 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:33,920 The grandpa who died, OK. Yeah, that's Jung Dong Huang. 550 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:39,840 He plays Pick Jungle. He's the patriarch who has giant 551 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,880 portraits of himself and all of the properties the family owns. 552 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,640 That guy, I knew he was. Oh God, I knew he was villain 553 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,840 from jump because he was the dad in the airs. 554 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,400 Yeah, that's. Right. 555 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,720 Yes, He's never gotten. Off my shit list ever since the 556 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,800 airs. I don't care that the airs is a 557 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,080 bad show. Like I consider it a bad show. 558 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,520 It's not good. But he again did his job. 559 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,360 He was terrible. Bile made everybody miserable, 560 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,239 and I'm like, he's going to keep doing that. 561 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,719 Honestly. Him and Hiju's mom, I feel like 562 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,760 they deserve each other. They do. 563 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,880 Also the sister. The sister I did. 564 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,800 Like what she did was shitty. Yes, we're gonna have to talk 565 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,520 about. Her little and she was useless. 566 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,120 Useless, useless. Character like her like. 567 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,199 The sister and Hiju's dad. I'm just like what are you 2 568 00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:39,040 people doing here? The story you just taking up 569 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,239 space. Exactly. 570 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,719 It can't go on without. You like the sister coming back 571 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,280 made no sense to me 'cause I feel like the story would have 572 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:53,120 progressed at the pace it would have even if she weren't there. 573 00:34:55,159 --> 00:35:00,680 The dad who's in the facility, Hong E Ju's dad, yes, another 574 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,160 completely. Like I feel like a lot of 575 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,640 characters, side characters. Are just conduits. 576 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,680 To push this ridiculous plot forward and they have like one 577 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,400 line and then they do one thing and then they're they're written 578 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,840 off like basically written off the show because they've served 579 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,480 their purpose. And that's not how I view 580 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,400 characters and so many characters right. 581 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,280 We just actually like 4 characters that do one shitty 582 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,720 thing and it like makes everything fall apart or. 583 00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:31,800 Or they don't do a shitty. Thing, but they express some 584 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,720 craziness or have a line that serves some function in this 585 00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:40,760 plot and I don't think that makes a good character, no. 586 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,800 I don't think so too. Kind of like the secretary. 587 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,120 The secretary of yeah, the like minion guy. 588 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,560 Peck sounds. Dad he had the most useless 589 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,880 conversation that has ever happened in the history of K 590 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,840 drama because I was just like he choose leaving. 591 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,200 Can I get into it? OK, you know what? 592 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,840 Let's just rate the show out of five soldier bottles and then 593 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,680 we're going to get into the spoiler section and all bets are 594 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,040 off. OK, I thought we went for the 595 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,600 jugular in the non spoiler section, but oh, buckle up. 596 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,680 So. What did What would you rate the 597 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,840 show? Out of five soldier bottles, I'd 598 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,840 rate it a four. Over 5 no. 599 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,680 I can't believe. It so you would still rate it 600 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,080 high? I'm still rating it high. 601 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,960 I'm still rating it high because just for the experience. 602 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,240 Yeah, what? About you, I would well. 603 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:43,360 I would rate it to OK what? Would you rate Queen of Tears? 604 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:44,720 Well, I haven't watched Queen of. 605 00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:46,800 Tears number one. OK, then that's the. 606 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,200 End. OK, that's it. 607 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,920 I'm not gonna say. But I have several people in my 608 00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:58,000 DMS who I don't know quarterly tell me to watch Queen of Tears. 609 00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:00,080 I'm here to set the record straight. 610 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,400 I don't think I ever will watch Queen of Tears if you think 611 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:05,360 that. What I'm? 612 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,560 Saying on when the phone rings is harsh. 613 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,880 I don't think you want me watching Queen of Tears. 614 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,880 OK, I don't. And again, I am not here to to 615 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,480 have a bad time watch AK drama that I didn't like. 616 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,400 I tend to choose dramas based on if I will like them or not. 617 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,360 And so I rarely drop dramas nowadays. 618 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,640 I don't have high numbers of drops every year because I am 619 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,440 choosy. I am curating what I watch. 620 00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:37,520 You really taught. Me to drop dramas, I'm so glad. 621 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,760 I'm so glad. So at this point I'm not about 622 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,920 hate watching. I someone brought up alchemy 623 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,120 souls in my DMS too. They were like, I haven't felt 624 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,960 this way since Alchemy souls and I was like, I don't want to talk 625 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,720 about alchemy souls. That might have been my. 626 00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:55,920 Last hate watch I. That was two years ago. 627 00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,640 I don't like to do that OK to myself or to others now that I 628 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,000 have a platform. I don't like to hate watch. 629 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,080 This wasn't necessarily a full on hate watch because it was so 630 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,160 crazy. I was like, you know what fuck 631 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:14,560 it like but yeah, it wasn't good. 632 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:19,040 I did not have a good time. Generally 2 soldier bottles I I 633 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,680 pretty much disliked it. OK, but I. 634 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:22,920 Found some. Merit. 635 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,960 In it, there was something to latch onto and it wasn't the 636 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,800 worst drama I've watched. It was not the. 637 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,440 Worst. Drama I've watched but. 638 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,080 It's it's. Pretty bad for like the current 639 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,240 year, right? Like the current 2024-2025. 640 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,440 But that's where I want. To push back though, because 641 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,920 2024 was a shitty year for K dramas. 642 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,800 So I'm just. Like Nah, this was for 2024 643 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,720 standard. This was a really good show. 644 00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:57,520 OK, I. I see where you're coming from. 645 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,320 That's the bar is low. It's oh. 646 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,160 The bat was in hell. I'm sorry. 647 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,160 I'm sorry. OK. 648 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,080 OK. Enough. 649 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,160 Enough. We're going to get it to 650 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:13,760 spoilers when the phone rings right after this. 651 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,360 Excuse me, I can't tell. I can't. 652 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,480 Tell you know I have no. Jingles. 653 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,520 Oh, sorry. Swear, discussing shit. 654 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,800 What? All right, we're on the other 655 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,000 side. Of spoilers, Carol, I'm just 656 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,320 going to set you loose. Really. 657 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:34,960 Like, what do you want to talk about? 658 00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:38,520 OK, OK. First of all, back to the 659 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,040 useless conversation that I mentioned with the secretary. 660 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:47,040 So we see Hiju leaving and so she came to her in laws to say 661 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,200 find my man. Yeah. 662 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,680 And then she's like, do something. 663 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,440 And they're like, we'll take it into consideration. 664 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,600 It's like, wild, wild. Yeah. 665 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,160 And at this point, she doesn't know that he's not other 666 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,880 biological son. Exactly. 667 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,840 So secretary comes out, he follows her and he's like, what 668 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,440 else does he know about the kidnapper? 669 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:14,680 And, you know, when he came into this house, he had surgery and 670 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,920 his eye, like, they fixed up his eye and he doesn't remember. 671 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:20,880 And I was just like, now hold on. 672 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:26,120 Are you telling me that he's the twin of the kidnapper? 673 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,360 Like, what is the point of that conversation? 674 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,240 You just confused, babe. So, you know, when I watched 675 00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:33,760 that, I was like, you know what, Carol? 676 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,640 Just hold your horses. Maybe next episode they'll do, 677 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,040 like, a flashback of the conversation and give it 678 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,640 context. No, context, never. 679 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,720 Context was not in the room with us. 680 00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:50,480 Yeah, that was a Rd. Closed type of clue that they 681 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,600 dropped there. It was like, oh, I drove to the 682 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,280 end of this, where's the rest? Where's the rest? 683 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:02,360 And who were you talking about? Because Mr. Kidnapper still has 684 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:08,480 mismatched eyes, eye colours. So I was just like, oh, you 685 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,560 wasted my time for free. OK, OK, let's move on to the 686 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,200 next clue. Yeah, yeah. 687 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,400 It was he because he made a point of stopping her. 688 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,960 Yeah, the eye. He had his. 689 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,320 Surgery to change his eye. Who had this? 690 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,880 OK. Thanks. 691 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:27,600 Yes. No. 692 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,120 Make no sense. I. 693 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,760 Yeah, I was. Really pissed off with that. 694 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:37,080 And I know like, in the grand scheme of things and you know, 695 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,920 the number of plot holes, it's really nothing. 696 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,200 But I just, you wanted to talk about it. 697 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,240 That one I wanted to talk. About because you wasted my 698 00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:53,280 goddamn time. I wanted to say this. 699 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:58,200 Quote from Time magazine when I saw this. 700 00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:00,920 Article I was like. Time magazine is writing about 701 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,440 when the phone rings, so here is what. 702 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,240 It says. The story of two people 703 00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:08,960 overcoming issues of communication to be together. 704 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,440 This may be highly relatable, but the story elements are 705 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,280 intentionally taken to the mock Jung extreme than they have in 706 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,760 parentheses. The descriptor mokjang is 707 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,600 applied to a Korean drama that stretches its depiction of 708 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,720 reality, putting its characters in increasingly extreme 709 00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:27,560 situations that heighten the stakes and emotions, and 710 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,840 populating its world with toxic characters who often act 711 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,880 contrary to any known system of logic. 712 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:38,640 I spit up my water when I saw they're just defying logic. 713 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,000 That is what a mokjang is. They go on to say. 714 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,720 When the Phone Rings is one of the best Mokjang dramas we've 715 00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:51,480 gotten in a few years, with a plot driven by kidnapping, 716 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,240 murder, contract marriages, arson, fake deaths, assumed 717 00:42:55,240 --> 00:42:57,320 identities and political intrigue. 718 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,800 No. No, it's not OK. 719 00:43:01,720 --> 00:43:04,800 OK. I don't want to shade anybody, 720 00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:12,720 but of late, these writers, these reporters, Yeah, writing 721 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,160 out of thin air. I'm just like me and you. 722 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,320 We watch that show. What you're saying is not what 723 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,960 was in the show, and I'll leave it at that. 724 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,240 This show, I think a lot of people class it as a guilty 725 00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:27,400 pleasure. It is a guilty pleasure. 726 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,840 I'd say that too. I think I started all right, 727 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,880 like. Episode 1 is crazy. 728 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,120 The writing is on the wall on episode 1, but it starts out 729 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,920 kind of intriguing. Like this whole thing is 730 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,080 masquerading as an enemies to lovers because at the end of the 731 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,560 episode you find out she can freaking talk. 732 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,640 She has the ability to speak and she's speaking. 733 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,120 In a kidnapping scenario, she is. 734 00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:54,360 Mad as shit. She's angry with him, with what 735 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,040 you overheard on the phone because he said like, bring me a 736 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,680 body or something. Like I can't even remember what 737 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,920 the line is. She loathes him and she starts 738 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,440 with her blackmail shit, which was. 739 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,600 Which was half baked at. Best it was home, girl was in 740 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,360 over her head. How are you taking pictures? 741 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,240 Of your thigh, Are you saying you're cheating? 742 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,680 Like what was up? What was up with that? 743 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,520 It was really. One of the worst plans I've ever 744 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,200 seen. She didn't take 2 seconds to 745 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,040 think it through. Of course, the phone. 746 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,480 Is. Tracked everything she does on 747 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,760 it is being recorded like I was confused like she just thought 748 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,640 oh I'll pick up this phone and continue this and get out of 749 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,600 this merit. I was literally like, all right, 750 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:44,720 let's turn up, I guess go off sis, like, OK, which was so. 751 00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:45,640 Wild to. Me. 752 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:51,040 Because I said, wait, is he not the one who said she's so clumsy 753 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,280 and he can? See right. 754 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:59,160 Through her, maybe he has selective vision, but he did not 755 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,960 catch on at any point, even at the point where she's on the 756 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,840 roof talking into the phone. No, honestly, I was just like. 757 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:12,200 Now. Hold on, that was me the whole 758 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:12,960 show. Like wait. 759 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:20,400 Because wait, what? The other major? 760 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:25,680 Gripe I had was I remember a conversation and I don't read, I 761 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,800 don't know what episode it was, but I remember Pixon talking to 762 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:37,760 Hiju and saying, oh, the sister must have seen younger Pixon and 763 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,120 that's why there was a hit on the brother. 764 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,880 And so I swear that conversation happened. 765 00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:50,040 So at the end when he asked, oh, does Heju know? 766 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,840 And he disappears? I was like, no, but you already 767 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:58,640 knew Heju knew, so where did you go? 768 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,720 Like what happened to that whole conversation you had with her? 769 00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:04,920 And yeah, it was miscommunication. 770 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,160 Even after they learned how to communicate 100%. 771 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,960 What is that the? Only thing they know how to 772 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,120 communicate. On is to kiss each other. 773 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:20,000 And you know, I felt like this show overcompensated with with 774 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,400 that. Because. 775 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,720 It felt very much OK. The audience is getting pissed 776 00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:26,400 off that this doesn't make sense. 777 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,000 Throw in a kiss. Oh yeah, let's just have a. 778 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:33,000 Dream of a. Kiss Yeah, I dream of what 779 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:33,800 could. Be if. 780 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,000 They were communicating from day one. 781 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:38,560 I swear. Joseph did. 782 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:43,520 Not have that many dreams in the Bible like I was just like OK 783 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,400 another dream and another dream like no it's. 784 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,440 Embarrassing really. It's embarrassing. 785 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,160 The like montages and things. And it could have been 8. 786 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,280 Episodes. What a tease. 787 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,920 Like this whole show? Is just a tease. 788 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:57,960 It is a tease. It is. 789 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,200 A tease and then. Like he did it and the whole 790 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,040 miscommunication thing. He married her and this was a 791 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,880 whole reveal. Like that wasn't really a 792 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,360 reveal. You obviously knew he had the 793 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:13,280 hots. For her he. 794 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,680 Loves her, likes her, definitely knew about who he was asking for 795 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:23,320 right when he swapped sisters in the contract marriage it was no. 796 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,720 Surprise, I was like. I'm not surprised here. 797 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,440 Yeah, he. Just didn't get to. 798 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,360 Know her at all during the three years of their marriage. 799 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,560 Because why? He didn't want to pressure her 800 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,480 into a relationship that he thought she felt trapped in? 801 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,280 Which, yeah, of course you'd feel trapped if you're not 802 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,760 telling me what's going on. Shit. 803 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,640 Like you know so. It was just a prison of his own 804 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,560 making. True, but. 805 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:54,400 We've also The show also established that Pexon had no 806 00:47:54,880 --> 00:48:00,840 relationship experience, like he was clueless when it came to 807 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,120 relationships. And The thing is. 808 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,080 I'm. Looking at their professions as 809 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,480 well, yeah, he is. A. 810 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:15,280 Erstwhile war correspondent, maybe a foreign operative, I 811 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,360 don't fucking know. Like they they just like threw 812 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,760 everything at the wall that he could do. 813 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,320 He was basically Jason Bourne by the end of this whole thing. 814 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:26,080 And currently he's a a spokesperson for the 815 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,400 presidential office. Great. 816 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,320 That means he's dealing with people all day long, fielding 817 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,440 questions, taking interviews, talking to the press. 818 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,240 And his whole thing is communicating. 819 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,840 That's his whole job is to communicate a message and do it 820 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:47,640 in in a proper way, in a way that makes sense to the Korean 821 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,000 public. So I'm like, OK, he is 822 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,640 communicating all day long and he has no other problems with 823 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,000 even other family members like his fake, you know, father and 824 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,440 mother. He's telling it like it is. 825 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,560 He's constantly butting heads with them and communicating that 826 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,320 he's not going to just go along with their plans. 827 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:14,080 And when it comes to Heju, he can't seem to get any word in 828 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,320 edgewise. Well, and I'm. 829 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,760 Confounded. By the fact that it took first 830 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,560 of all, they grew up together, they were basically neighbours. 831 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,880 Never says anything when they're married and living in the same 832 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:32,160 house again never says anything. I feel like it's just the toxic 833 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,080 nature of how he got her into the marriage in the first place. 834 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,080 I'm just like, let me just trap her. 835 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,520 I'm doing it out of the best of intentions. 836 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,200 I think she's got a terrible home life. 837 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,800 She's about to be married off to some skeeze ball who's going to 838 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:49,440 treat her badly. I'll just marry her, fine, fine, 839 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:54,400 and keep the good intentions. But after he's got her in the 840 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,680 house and he's setting up all of these boundaries and putting up 841 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:03,800 walls and things between them. OK, beast, like, let's talk 842 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,720 about it. I This is very Beauty and the 843 00:50:05,720 --> 00:50:10,520 Beast, true And I. Also believe that he really 844 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:15,280 couldn't see past what he felt he was supposed to be doing, 845 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:21,000 which is I do think I'd characterize him as a very 846 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:28,160 narcissistic person because he's just so consumed with himself. 847 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:33,840 And this whole thing of you were not part of my plan like Mana's 848 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:39,240 tunnel vision focused on. I don't at this point, I can't 849 00:50:39,240 --> 00:50:40,840 even remember what the revenge was. 850 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,520 I was confused about his revenge. 851 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,120 Plan too. Was it just like I'm not going? 852 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,240 To. Be part of your presidential 853 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,880 ticket ticket candidacy and involved in any way and speak 854 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,280 good of you. Was that his the end all be all 855 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:59,640 of his revenge just to not let the father become the president 856 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,560 and use his clout? Oh it. 857 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,640 Couldn't have been just that. That would be maybe it was had 858 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:07,800 to. Do with just like bringing the 859 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,880 whole family down and revealing his identity especially. 860 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:16,160 With the the. The ring that he put back on his 861 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,120 dying grandpa. At that point, he thought he 862 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,080 was. The grandpa and he was like, I 863 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,720 need some dirt. I want to know what the hell is 864 00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:25,200 going on. I want to know who I am. 865 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,400 Maybe I can get something out of it if I insert a camera into 866 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,800 this signet ring and put it back on this man wheezing in the ICU. 867 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,920 That maybe that had something to do with the revenge. 868 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,240 But again, it's never really laid out A to B to C. 869 00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:42,760 It's always just like, I can't. I guess I have to infer here how 870 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,520 he wants to raze this thing to the ground. 871 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:49,000 But Even so, I didn't feel like he was particularly gung ho on 872 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,600 any sort of revenge, no. And also, I feel like by the 873 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:57,120 time he was putting the ring on grandpa, he knew that was his 874 00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,320 dad, not his. It's so. 875 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,920 Ambiguous. It's not like he had a moment 876 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,160 where he was like, I know I'm your son, I'm going to put this 877 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,160 ring back on you because I think she's going to go down or I'm 878 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:12,560 going to get something else out of you. 879 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:17,440 No word about that, really. No clues there. 880 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,880 I don't like this. Feeling of making me question 881 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,840 why I read that it's a four out of five. 882 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,840 The thing is, they had a lot. OK, so the good stuff about this 883 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,000 show is basically whenever these two, the female lead and the 884 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,840 male lead, are trapped in a room together, sparks fly, I guess. 885 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,280 And that was at one point he, like, tried to pull up her skirt 886 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,040 to see her. Oh yeah. 887 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,120 Mole or. Something. 888 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:44,400 That she had. The. 889 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,520 Birthmark. And she was like, oh, stop. 890 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:52,880 Like it was very like, OK, it's very kind of icky because she 891 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,000 obviously doesn't want him touching her. 892 00:52:55,720 --> 00:52:57,200 She doesn't want him to. Pull up her. 893 00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:02,600 Skirt it's very sexual assaulty, a little whiff of sexual assault 894 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,480 in here and people were salivating over the scene. 895 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,720 They were like, Oh my God, he's so sexy. 896 00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:12,880 He just got done getting roasted in this weird fire that the 897 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:17,720 kidnapper found his location and it exploded his secret office. 898 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,200 See. But like. 899 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:26,000 I, I did not like that scene, but in that scene I would have 900 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,920 been asking hard questions because you have a bodyguard 901 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,880 with this woman. You know her schedule, when does 902 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,320 she have the time to go have an affair and take a picture of her 903 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:42,640 thigh and post it up? And just even the POV, like I 904 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,960 just felt like critical thinking wasn't part of the characters 905 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,680 what critical skill set there was. 906 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,440 Not even thinking at. All anyway he was looking. 907 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,720 Trying. To look up her skirt and see the 908 00:53:54,720 --> 00:53:58,360 birthmark, or if there was a birthmark, to basically Fact 909 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,800 Check the kidnapper on the phone. 910 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,520 Yeah. And then she's shocked. 911 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,960 That he's doing it and I'm just like, why would you be shocked? 912 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,760 Why are you? Shocked you sent. 913 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,280 Him the photo, it was such a stupid thing. 914 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,440 Like to send her like he said she sent him like a. 915 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:19,000 Boudoir. Photo and expected him to just 916 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:24,000 take it and not like do any further investigating because he 917 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,840 obviously at this point he's clueless doesn't know that's his 918 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,240 wife on the phone. So he's like, Oh my God, does 919 00:54:31,240 --> 00:54:34,360 the kidnapper really have but the angle? 920 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,120 Everything. About the photo that makes zero 921 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,040 sense and her. Retrying and. 922 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,120 Retrying and retrying to take the photo. 923 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,520 I'm like bitch, give it up. Like, yeah. 924 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,120 Even the. Mom who gave. 925 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,960 Her the lingerie, she wasn't even committed. 926 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,720 Quit. I was just like, what's what's 927 00:54:55,720 --> 00:54:57,960 your angle? What's your point? 928 00:54:58,240 --> 00:55:01,680 Because I guess she was like. Oh, I have two rabbits stuck in 929 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,200 a cage together. I have to get them to breed. 930 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,520 Yeah. Otherwise this whole charade is 931 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,080 null and void. So she is the. 932 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,600 Real mom of Hiju, Yeah. And she got. 933 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:18,040 With. Dad and she dumped Dad and I 934 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,400 guess she, this is me making up the story. 935 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,960 I guess she moved into the House of the chairman. 936 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,240 Oh, it was very the heirs. Coated. 937 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,040 Yeah, it was very. Heirs coated, she, he. 938 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,120 We had a mistress living. In the house, I don't know. 939 00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:34,440 Yeah, did where they actually. Married. 940 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,520 And she? Was the official stepmom to to 941 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:39,360 biological. Kids. 942 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:45,200 No, I was thinking. More she came in and the older 943 00:55:45,240 --> 00:55:50,840 Hayan's mother died and then she's sort of like a caretaker 944 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,400 who has her daughter living in the house just like airs. 945 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:59,000 And then it turns into something more and she becomes sort of 946 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:04,160 like a step mom to Hayan and he drew as her daughter. 947 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,040 I just couldn't quite. Wrap. 948 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:11,280 My head around the fact that the dad, he just step dad, left her 949 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:17,560 in the house knowing everything, that she had been coercing her 950 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:22,600 biological daughter Hiju to pretend to be mute, have 951 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:27,280 selective mutism to maintain her position in this house. 952 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,800 It didn't make sense and the dad knew the whole thing the whole 953 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,720 time and he didn't. Say shit like that. 954 00:56:32,720 --> 00:56:36,600 Family does not care about Hiju no no. 955 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,200 Nobody in the family cared about Hiju. 956 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,560 At all, because otherwise the dad. 957 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,240 Would be like. Hey, I know we're sleeping 958 00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:46,920 together every night. I think you can let your 959 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,200 daughters talk now. Right. 960 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,840 I'm not going to kick you out. Like again, where is what does 961 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:59,000 it cost for some people to open their mouths and communicate 962 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,640 because I really don't understand why the secrets why 963 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:06,480 would he keep that secret? I'm sure I can understand the 964 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:11,000 stepmom. He just mom keeping it up for 20 965 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,800 years. But what's with the dad? 966 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,520 So the dad hates he do. Is he getting a? 967 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,920 Kick out of seeing. Them squirm and try and no 968 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,160 tiptoe. Around him with this. 969 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:25,520 Lie. I don't. 970 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,040 I don't get that at all. I fell flat. 971 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,000 Yeah, so many things. But yeah, like people were just 972 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,680 gravitating, I guess toward the skinship in the in the show, 973 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:39,440 100% the. I think it's episode. 2 where 974 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,200 this is post the first kidnapping and she has some 975 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,960 bruising on her neck and like a cut and stuff. 976 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:53,400 He brags her into some dark room and pins are up against the wall 977 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,760 and it's like inspecting her neck and stuff that shit. 978 00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:01,720 It is K drama crack it is. At this point in episode 2, it 979 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,040 was. It worked, right? 980 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,560 It did, yeah. It's book. 981 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:06,600 Talk. Magic. 982 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,840 Like that's what exactly I'm. Not going to fault the show for 983 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,120 that, but like the whip of sexual assault on the latter one 984 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,320 that we were having talking about about the mole inspection. 985 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,200 Yeah. I don't know if I would 986 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,080 necessarily classify that as sexy. 987 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:27,160 Sure, he looks good, but you can see me disassociating like 988 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,040 further into the more deeper into the show I get. 989 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:35,520 I remember after like. Episode 2 calling him a green 990 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,080 flag. No, you didn't. 991 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:39,920 I did. I did. 992 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,920 Was it episode 2 or maybe on a later episode? 993 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,880 Because like you said, immediately you knew he loved 994 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,840 her. Yeah, he cared for her for sure. 995 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:54,680 Yeah, he cared for her. And I just think I really, there 996 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:59,720 was 1 scene that I appreciated which he didn't really even go 997 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,440 all the way when they were lying in bed at one point. 998 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:08,120 And he's like, just forget everything that you heard and 999 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,680 that was said or something like that. 1000 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:15,600 I think I thought that was the beginning of an apology. 1001 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:20,000 He could have definitely gone all the way with an apology or 1002 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:25,160 an explanation, but it goes back to that lack of communication 1003 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,600 between them. But even with that, she seemed 1004 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:34,040 content with that explanation. And I was like, OK, if it works 1005 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,560 for you, girl, it will work for me. 1006 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,520 Whatever, but I. Just found. 1007 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:45,600 There were moments of sheer panic from him at the thought of 1008 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,960 danger coming to her. Yeah, that's good stuff. 1009 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:54,680 Those those were the moments I. Really enjoyed because I just 1010 00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,680 felt like his face. He was very expressive. 1011 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,800 You could see fear, you could see anger. 1012 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,880 I was like, OK. OK, Ian, suck. 1013 01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,040 Do something here. You can give it some go off, go 1014 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:09,240 off. Yeah, but. 1015 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,000 Yeah, so I I liked those scenes, but I did. 1016 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,280 That's not bad stuff at all, no. I'm not complaining about that 1017 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,760 stuff. It's, it's plot related stuff. 1018 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:24,160 And the show functions best when I guess you're watching it as 1019 01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:28,680 it's airing because you do get that break where you can come up 1020 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,880 with theories. Yeah, about the show, where it's 1021 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,720 headed, who's who. And that's what's fun with the 1022 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:38,880 groupthink aspect of social media is you read a theory and 1023 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,400 you're like, Oh my God, I agree, or no, I don't agree. 1024 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,760 Or, you know, something actually being right. 1025 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,680 Like you, you make a theory and it's right. 1026 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,000 It turns out to be right. That's the fun, I guess, of 1027 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:54,720 watching this unhinged show. I don't watch shows when they're 1028 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,840 airing, so I'm completely removed from this. 1029 01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:02,560 I don't really get a thrill necessarily out of making 1030 01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:06,480 theories about the show. I don't necessarily thrive off 1031 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,320 of the. Theories and I feel like people 1032 01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:12,000 were really excited to come and talk about the show and like 1033 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:16,160 who's the killer and who's the you know who owns the phone and 1034 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,080 suck a male lead. He's shady and all this stuff. 1035 01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:20,680 I get it. I get it. 1036 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,840 I don't subscribe to that. I asked on Instagram for people 1037 01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:30,320 to give me their thoughts, concerns, topics they wanted us 1038 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:34,560 to cover on this podcast. Some people said great couple. 1039 01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,320 He looks great in a black shirt. Perfect. 1040 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,600 Yeah, that, yeah. Fine, fine, sure. 1041 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:45,080 Argon plotline, super weird. Last two episodes look 1042 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:48,160 ridiculous and weird. It seems like mock young easy to 1043 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:49,760 watch actually. What's bothering me? 1044 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:53,240 How is the kidnapper so smart to control the female lead's car? 1045 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,400 Unless I miss something, I stopped trying to find logic and 1046 01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,560 just enjoy the story without paying attention to some 1047 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,120 details. Truly messy show. 1048 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,840 I think they pulled off being compelling and sensational at 1049 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,960 the beginning, but the writing relied so heavily on being 1050 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,680 sensational instead of writing their characters to be logical. 1051 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,520 Maybe this is just the mock Jong way. 1052 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:16,000 Someone else said cheese fest. All of these things are true, 1053 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:18,560 someone said. So much waste of potential plot 1054 01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:20,040 holes galore in an absurd ending. 1055 01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,240 Yeah, you're right. You're right. 1056 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,960 So what's this was so funny. I love when people read a lot 1057 01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:33,480 into it, as in like, they're squeezing milk out of an almond. 1058 01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,080 You know what I'm saying? To get almond milk. 1059 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,920 And this person said Pixelmon is a man of his words. 1060 01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:44,240 Heju is a woman of her actions. They were talking about the 1061 01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,920 journey that he do goes on, which is, you know, she was 1062 01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:48,760 faking being. Her. 1063 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,040 Own kidnapper and blackmailing her husband to give her a 1064 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:56,640 divorce then she goes to transitions to trusting and 1065 01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:00,320 loving him unconditionally and protecting him at all costs, 1066 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,560 even with a knife at. Her throat at. 1067 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:06,120 The, I don't know, 10th kidnapping, so on and so forth. 1068 01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,200 And that's fine. Like, yeah, that sure. 1069 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,240 That's a journey. Did I care? 1070 01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,600 No, no, that's my. Point. 1071 01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,800 It's like. For me personally, man, I didn't 1072 01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:19,280 give a shit. I feel you. 1073 01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,920 Are there any other? Complaints that you had about 1074 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,680 the show before we go into the last two episodes. 1075 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,720 Well, let's talk about the sister, OK? 1076 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,240 This girl comes. Back from. 1077 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,720 Overseas, she was Mia, they didn't know where she was for 1078 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:39,440 three years, fucked off on her wedding, leaving Heju to clean 1079 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:40,880 up the mess and be the substitute. 1080 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:45,800 Fine, we now know that Pixone orchestrated this whole thing, 1081 01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:50,560 was in cahoots with the sister, and like, requested he choose to 1082 01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,600 be his bride. Fine, fine, fine. 1083 01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:57,080 She comes back. Yeah, I did not like this 1084 01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:58,760 character. I didn't like how they 1085 01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:04,360 miraculously found some surgical cure to fix her vocal cords or 1086 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,600 whatever damage was done during the accident. 1087 01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:12,160 As a child she never learned how to use sign language in all of 1088 01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,840 the, I don't know, 20 years that she was mute? 1089 01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:17,600 No, she wasn't mute. She. 1090 01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,160 Was hard of hearing oh. Was it hard of hearing? 1091 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:21,120 Oh. Man, I'm sorry. 1092 01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,280 I'm sorry. Well, she would. 1093 01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:24,920 Be mute because. She can't hear. 1094 01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,080 Was she mute? No, no, no, I, I think it. 1095 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:29,560 Was hard of hearing. She lost her hearing. 1096 01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,280 You're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, my bad, my 1097 01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,120 bad. But anyway, surgical cure to fix 1098 01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:39,600 her ears and her hearing and she never learned sign language in 1099 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,240 all those years. Nope. 1100 01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:42,480 And I'm like. How? 1101 01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:46,080 Much. Of a selfish, self pitying bitch 1102 01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:48,000 you. Have to be. 1103 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:53,320 To not only not refuse to learn that you're silencing yourself. 1104 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:57,800 At that point you had 20 years to learn how to sign. 1105 01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,560 She doesn't. And instead she's holding out 1106 01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,400 hope that she can just miraculously get cured. 1107 01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,120 And she does. They give it to her that she 1108 01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,200 does get cured. And then when she comes back and 1109 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,000 talks to Heju, she's like T he's sorry. 1110 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:18,160 I knew that you could speak all of these years and you made 1111 01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:24,240 yourself be silent just to keep me company in my miserable state 1112 01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,520 because I needed to bring somebody down here with me. 1113 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,440 That was trash. And. 1114 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,960 It's experienced this. Calamity, even though you didn't 1115 01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:36,800 need to, whether out of guilt or some misguided idea that you're 1116 01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:40,880 getting a kicked out if you're whole Let's be friends that that 1117 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:44,680 was the whole. Speech at the aquarium. 1118 01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,640 Yep, that was her. Arc actually she didn't even say 1119 01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:48,120 sorry. She. 1120 01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,800 Was just like I knew that you could speak. 1121 01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:54,400 But now I can speak. So. 1122 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:58,280 All is well, all is forgiven. Let's pick up where we left off 1123 01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,840 and I'm like fuck you, bitch. What the fuck do you mean? 1124 01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,480 No, she was a. Horrible person, just so 1125 01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,080 selfish. She was very selfish. 1126 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:15,280 And I actually felt bad for her because she has a look of I'm 1127 01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:20,120 going to be a bitch in the show. And so you're always 1128 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:26,240 anticipating her to do something shady, something that will harm 1129 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,440 Hiju, etcetera. And then she's just like, no, 1130 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,360 no, I'm endearing. I just want to be friends. 1131 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,040 I love myself. I've always wanted a sister. 1132 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:40,320 I just don't like her mom. It it's just fell flat for me 1133 01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:46,520 because, you know, I don't fault her too much for being a kid and 1134 01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:50,880 pretending because she wanted someone to go through the pain 1135 01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:54,320 with her. I I really don't fault her for 1136 01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,520 that because at her big age though, at. 1137 01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,080 Her big age though, How old was she she? 1138 01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,920 Was older than. He do No, no when when? 1139 01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,080 They had the accident. They were kids. 1140 01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,360 Oh yeah, When they had the. Accident. 1141 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,080 They were kids, yeah, but as they. 1142 01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,320 Grew up. That's what I'm saying is like 1143 01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,200 at her. Big age, that's true. 1144 01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:16,640 She should have fixed it a long time. 1145 01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:18,160 Where's the apology like you went to? 1146 01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:22,160 College like you, your frontal lobe is fully developed that's 1147 01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:23,640 true where's. The. 1148 01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,000 Come to Jesus moment which to me tells. 1149 01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,480 Me that she isn't a good person. No. 1150 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:34,120 If you were a kid, let's say you were like up to 14. 1151 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:38,600 She was like a preteen. The older sister was when she 1152 01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,000 lost her hearing. Oh, she's not a good. 1153 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:45,440 Person, we can't defend her in any way I can see maybe. 1154 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:49,280 Keeping it up until you're, I don't know, in high school, 1155 01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,040 Yeah, yeah. I can't. 1156 01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,320 There's just no. Empathy. 1157 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:58,760 Coming from honing that character and I couldn't get 1158 01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,400 behind her character, couldn't get behind anything she did. 1159 01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:06,800 Even the apology at the end of the show, I was like 11th hour, 1160 01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:09,040 yeah. No, I. 1161 01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:12,960 Agree so I felt like she shouldn't have come back and he 1162 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:18,279 I heed you is such. A old school female lead, right? 1163 01:08:18,319 --> 01:08:21,479 Yes. Being gaslit by everyone, even 1164 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:25,720 to the point of shouting stop gaslighting me I'm like bitch 1165 01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,279 you knew they've been gaslighting. 1166 01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:34,439 Like she's. Stupid and naive and very warm 1167 01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:39,240 hearted. Innocent at heart and did 1168 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:43,479 everything just to be loved. And ain't no love coming from 1169 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,880 anybody in that family. Just got bamboozled and 1170 01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:50,359 hoodwinked into shutting up for 20 years. 1171 01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,880 Yeah, that. Type of female. 1172 01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:56,359 Lead. That's very 2006, yeah. 1173 01:08:56,720 --> 01:09:02,160 Yeah, I agree 2024 we're. Getting this lead and everyone's 1174 01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,640 like, Oh my God, poor Heeju, poor this. 1175 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:08,720 I'm like, this is very old school of a characterization. 1176 01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:13,840 And something else about Heeju is that when she was signing, 1177 01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:18,760 she was very animated, she was very feisty, she had a lot of 1178 01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,200 gumption and. She was serving. 1179 01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,920 Attitude and and you know, getting angry and things at 1180 01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:29,760 people when she's signing at them, when she stopped signing, 1181 01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:33,399 it's almost like all of those qualities go away and that's why 1182 01:09:33,399 --> 01:09:37,000 a man said. He enjoys, that's why he said he 1183 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:41,000 enjoys the heju that was on the phone with him. 1184 01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:42,800 Matter of fact, they had to address. 1185 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,040 It in the final episode, in the final two minutes of the show, 1186 01:09:46,359 --> 01:09:49,920 they had to address this crazy character switch that happened 1187 01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:53,000 when she stopped signing. She lost a whole bunch of 1188 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:57,280 personality traits and she had to come and tell her like, hey. 1189 01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:00,800 I want you to get angry with me. I want you to tell me what's 1190 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,760 going on and communicate. I want you to nag me and I'm 1191 01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,240 like, does that fix? It I. 1192 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:10,320 Don't think so, but OK, great on you for putting this the 1193 01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:15,280 stipulation here in your marriage for her to open up a 1194 01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:19,040 bit more because she was pissed when she was. 1195 01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,280 Signing. She was she. 1196 01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:24,560 Was and, you know, you know, I hadn't even thought of that. 1197 01:10:25,480 --> 01:10:31,120 I think I was just focused on when she could speak, she was 1198 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:35,360 letting him have it. And she definitely met made him 1199 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,280 nervous or made him pay attention. 1200 01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:43,920 But when she didn't speak, it was just like, oh, this is the 1201 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:45,200 chaser, Ben. I know. 1202 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,040 Yeah, this is. Why I don't? 1203 01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:53,000 Watch her but surprisingly and like press tours and whatnot, 1204 01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,560 she's very spunky like Chase had. 1205 01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,080 Been the. Actress. 1206 01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,080 So I was just like sis. Why are you? 1207 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:04,440 Always so dull. Yes, it's just just. 1208 01:11:04,440 --> 01:11:06,680 So dull. Every time she. 1209 01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,720 Wasn't on the phone and she wasn't signing. 1210 01:11:10,440 --> 01:11:12,280 Was like she was a non playable character. 1211 01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,960 Like she just like, where'd she go? 1212 01:11:15,440 --> 01:11:17,600 Yeah, like a Sims. Character. 1213 01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:22,040 Just stuck and waiting for waiting for him to save her 1214 01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,120 because. I can't lost count of how many 1215 01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:27,640 times and she was kidnapped. Waiting to be saved. 1216 01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,160 I mean, you fucking name it like they did it to this girl. 1217 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:35,320 Let's talk about episode 6 because we mentioned. 1218 01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:38,440 Episode 6. Before the break, so. 1219 01:11:38,440 --> 01:11:42,400 What had happened was. They went hiking as a group 1220 01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:46,480 activity in the presidential spokesperson's office. 1221 01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:48,440 This turned into an office romance. 1222 01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:51,480 I do not like office romances, I have to say. 1223 01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,640 So when it turned out that she was starting to work with him 1224 01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:59,440 alongside him, interpreting for him, I was like another thing 1225 01:11:59,480 --> 01:12:02,200 that I can't just rubs me the wrong way. 1226 01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,520 They go hiking with the rest of the group. 1227 01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:11,400 And the guy that you mentioned, Nin Chilsu, who plays like the 1228 01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,480 office manager or something. Yes, OK. 1229 01:12:14,480 --> 01:12:16,000 So that guy he's in there for? Comedic relief. 1230 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:20,160 But he was climbing that mountain and he was huffing and 1231 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,440 puffing. He had two walking sticks. 1232 01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:26,400 People were like, wow, this is really hard to climb up the 1233 01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:28,440 mountain. This is my train of thought. 1234 01:12:28,440 --> 01:12:32,920 I was like, I feel seen because I fucking hate hiking. 1235 01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:38,720 And I'm always that person who is 50 steps behind, always 1236 01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,760 falling behind. I almost died in the the Canyon 1237 01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,640 in Las Vegas doing like a fun little hike. 1238 01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,800 Yeah, the fuck not. Hills and shit and rock 1239 01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,040 scrambling. No, no, you're going to get a 1240 01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:51,640 different Jessica. It's a mess. 1241 01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:56,080 I am a sight to behold. And when I saw that character, 1242 01:12:56,080 --> 01:13:00,240 the office manager, I was like, Oh my God, you'd never see this 1243 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:04,120 in the K dramas where someone's actually struggling to do one of 1244 01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:05,840 these mountain hikes. That's true. 1245 01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:08,720 I hate. Hiking I hate hiking and. 1246 01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:11,400 Then they come to the lookout point. 1247 01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,280 He gets inundated with fans trying to take selfies. 1248 01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:21,320 He gets her shit rock. She gets pushed off of this 1249 01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,040 lookout point. It's a sheer drop. 1250 01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:28,440 She falls off a mountain. It's a basically a Cliff and 1251 01:13:28,440 --> 01:13:29,880 I'm. Like, Oh my God. 1252 01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:33,160 She died. Like I was like, there's no. 1253 01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:35,800 Way. There's no way she survived that 1254 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,920 fall. Not only did she survive, she 1255 01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:42,960 thrived. She had no broken bones near a 1256 01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:46,280 scratch. She was fine Babe. 1257 01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:48,840 People break ankles. Just missing. 1258 01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:53,040 A step on the stairs. It was hard on. 1259 01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,360 Me. This is the point where I said, 1260 01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,040 you know what? I don't have to finish this 1261 01:13:58,040 --> 01:13:59,960 show. They're not. 1262 01:13:59,960 --> 01:14:04,880 Taking this seriously? This is insulting that. 1263 01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:08,320 They would even think. That I would suspend my 1264 01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:13,760 disbelief that this girl would survive a severe fall. 1265 01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:20,520 They were so serious when he's trying to find her, calling her 1266 01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:25,120 and getting of her to call him on the kidnappers phone and 1267 01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:29,240 where are you and of this roundabout thing and him like 1268 01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:33,480 traversing the mountain at night by himself. 1269 01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:37,480 It was done sincerely. It really was. 1270 01:14:37,480 --> 01:14:39,560 And I'm like get. The fuck out of here. 1271 01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,920 Listen, he was like just beside. Himself wanting to save her, 1272 01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:49,600 couldn't get to her. You've got to be joking. 1273 01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:55,280 I you. Listen, I loved seeing him in 1274 01:14:55,280 --> 01:15:01,280 pain, seeing him in anguish, seeing him desperate. 1275 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:05,160 I loved that. But I. 1276 01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:06,400 Also understand what you're saying. 1277 01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,880 Oh my God. When episode. 1278 01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:10,720 Six happened. I shook my head. 1279 01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,440 I was like, no, we can't keep going. 1280 01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:18,800 They have all this great hospital like time and he's 1281 01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:22,600 taking care of her and he never left her side and I'm like, she 1282 01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,040 should be dead. She should. 1283 01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:28,680 Be in a body bag. I was beside myself. 1284 01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,680 So then episode 6 happened. I check out, I checked out. 1285 01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:35,120 I was like, there's nothing they can do that's going to be like 1286 01:15:35,480 --> 01:15:39,520 worse than this because we've reached a big low here. 1287 01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:45,320 Oh my God, the unraveling the spaghetti in the last 6 episodes 1288 01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:47,360 to figure. Out. 1289 01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:54,440 Who the real kidnapper was and how Pakhtoje, who was his right 1290 01:15:54,440 --> 01:15:57,680 hand man, was like a. Kidnapper. 1291 01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:03,920 And hacker extraordinaire and that he was a twin at the 1292 01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:08,160 orphanage school who lost his twin back in the day, presumably 1293 01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:15,040 from the murders that happened. And I mean, it escalates from 1294 01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:16,000 there. Yeah. 1295 01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:17,960 I was messaging. You going? 1296 01:16:18,440 --> 01:16:22,520 How the fuck did? Pacto. 1297 01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:30,760 J the right hand man fall ass backward into enlisting the real 1298 01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:38,320 murderer AKA the real Pakhseon into being his puppet and 1299 01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:41,480 exacting this revenge and kidnapping ploy. 1300 01:16:41,480 --> 01:16:45,160 That was not it. And then he was, I was like, how 1301 01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:48,360 did? Even Pakthoje get all of this 1302 01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:52,880 information about the murderers because that was under lock and 1303 01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,200 key. That family LED none of that 1304 01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:59,080 slip of who was the real culprit and there was no police 1305 01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,800 investigation. I'm like did he sniff the 1306 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,200 leaves? Like I'm did he put his ear to 1307 01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,520 the ground and just the earth told him? 1308 01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:11,680 Like I'm confused about how even that dude got his Intel. 1309 01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:13,200 Because. No one. 1310 01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:15,440 Gave it to him. No one gave it to him. 1311 01:17:15,440 --> 01:17:17,680 He was. He just divine it, just figured 1312 01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:19,400 it out. But how? 1313 01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:24,600 Maybe his brother who? Had died, visited him in a dream 1314 01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:28,640 and told him and you know that the show could have gone with 1315 01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:32,160 that and we'd have to believe but. 1316 01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:35,320 That didn't make. Sense and then the whole and 1317 01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:40,760 they tried to explain why he got together with the real pyxeon 1318 01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:43,800 and I was just like, this is so lazy. 1319 01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,480 Like what are we? What are we? 1320 01:17:46,480 --> 01:17:48,720 Doing so that. Was they let that guy? 1321 01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:52,920 Go like the real pixon slash kidnapper. 1322 01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:56,880 They let that guy go, I don't know, half dozen times he 1323 01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:01,480 escapes after kidnapping people and clobbering them over the 1324 01:18:01,480 --> 01:18:04,200 head. And lots of attempted murder 1325 01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:07,400 here. I don't understand why the real 1326 01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:11,400 kidnapper was mad at the fake pixon like that. 1327 01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:17,920 Seems a little misguided because obviously that's not the guy who 1328 01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:19,840 that's. Not the guy you should be. 1329 01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:23,080 Exacting your avenger. Like I don't know why he chose 1330 01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:29,240 Pixon Yu Yun Suk's character as his target because that kid had 1331 01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:32,520 nothing to do with the switcheroo that. 1332 01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:34,800 Happened. And you almost dying. 1333 01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:38,360 I think he really. Thought Park Dolce Really 1334 01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:41,080 thought Pexon killed his brother. 1335 01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:42,960 Yeah, but I'm like, how'd you get? 1336 01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,760 That name? No contacts. 1337 01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:47,160 No contacts. No. 1338 01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:48,960 Nothing there. They're just like, he's just 1339 01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,800 like, I thought it was you and you were my main suspect. 1340 01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:53,520 Then I had to figure out if it was you. 1341 01:18:53,520 --> 01:19:00,920 And so I hatched this kidnapping plan with the real guy. 1342 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:04,080 They'd like tried to explain it. They were like, oh, he was 1343 01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:08,920 coming out of the office building talking crazy, 1344 01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:13,800 threatening Pixel. And he's like, OK, perfect blunt 1345 01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,680 instrument to use this stupid plan. 1346 01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:20,360 I was just floored. Yeah, I agree with. 1347 01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:24,800 You, it was very much the enemy of my enemy is my friend. 1348 01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:27,080 I think that's what they were trying to go for. 1349 01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:28,960 Absolutely. And. 1350 01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:32,840 I feel. Like man was on a fool's errand, 1351 01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:39,840 like his whole life was a joke and I just felt so bad for him. 1352 01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:47,480 I feel like if he had partnered with Doctor Slash YouTube, oh 1353 01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:51,640 that would make more sense because Mr. YouTube had 1354 01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:54,480 something to work off. He had incomplete files. 1355 01:19:54,480 --> 01:19:56,480 But at least he had a memory to go off of. 1356 01:19:56,480 --> 01:19:59,120 And he was like, oh, I saw this kid and I played with him. 1357 01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,360 Yeah. And the kid was near. 1358 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,400 Yeah. But the whole the other part is 1359 01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:09,560 why couldn't young pixel on be outside? 1360 01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:13,880 And why was it such a huge secret like someone had seen him 1361 01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:16,600 because he had sociopathic. Tendencies. 1362 01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:20,120 And they were like, oh, he's killing the squirrels, we need 1363 01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:21,200 to lock him. Away. 1364 01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:25,120 And then the locking key was nothing to this little murderer 1365 01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:29,520 because he went out to the local orphanage and was really having 1366 01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,720 a ball. Like he I think he took out like 1367 01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,920 4 kids, yes. And they knew about it. 1368 01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:37,360 Because they were consistently getting rid of the bodies. 1369 01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:39,000 It's wild. So I. 1370 01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,840 Was like wow. Wow, wow, wow. 1371 01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:43,280 Like what else? What else? 1372 01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:47,360 And I think the the. Thing that drove me nuts a 1373 01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:50,000 little bit. One of the very few things that 1374 01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:52,880 drove to nuts. Is you know when you. 1375 01:20:52,880 --> 01:21:00,600 Watch that show with Ijungi where he takes the place of the 1376 01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,080 murderer. It's that flower of evil, right? 1377 01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:04,680 Flower of Evil. Oh, it is. 1378 01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:10,200 Yeah, it is Flower of Evil. So in Flower of Evil he is very 1379 01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:15,680 much like you see the parents actively covering their kids 1380 01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:20,240 tracks and and whatnot. But in this show, the parents 1381 01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:23,560 don't really cover his tracks. They're not invested. 1382 01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:28,320 It was grandpa who was invested in covering everything and they 1383 01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:32,480 were just hating on grandpa. So even the real Pex Allen's 1384 01:21:32,480 --> 01:21:37,920 parents weren't as invested in their son. 1385 01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:42,760 And it just made it feel like you're such a lazy villain. 1386 01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:47,280 I don't even understand because they didn't even know that 1387 01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:51,560 Hiju's dad had a deal with grandpa. 1388 01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:57,640 Like they were just in the show. Like we were watching Clueless. 1389 01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:00,800 Oh. But you know going into. 1390 01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:04,160 The final two episodes that mom lost her shit. 1391 01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:07,000 She did that, mom. Lost her ever loving. 1392 01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:08,760 Shit. And she crashed out. 1393 01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:10,960 I was. Not following. 1394 01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:15,280 Her line of logic, and maybe you're not supposed to. 1395 01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,840 She was just mad. She was mad at the old man. 1396 01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:20,720 The grandpa. Yeah. 1397 01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,560 That he hoodwinked her into raising his own child. 1398 01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:27,520 Because that's who Yu Yun Suk's character is. 1399 01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,640 Nice. We don't know who his mom is, 1400 01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:33,600 but his daddy is the grandpa character. 1401 01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:38,200 Yo, I was waiting. For the show, because she hated 1402 01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,040 and that was the theory too, that people. 1403 01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:43,360 Had you had this theory too? Yes, I was. 1404 01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:47,760 Waiting for the show to tell me that maybe grandpa sexually 1405 01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:52,720 assaulted her and the fake pixel on is actually her son. 1406 01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:55,080 That's why she loathed the old. Man, yeah. 1407 01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:58,440 So I was just she was spitting on his portrait. 1408 01:22:58,440 --> 01:23:00,880 And shit and just, yo, she was she. 1409 01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:02,440 Was ready to host. Yeah, she. 1410 01:23:02,440 --> 01:23:06,360 Killed him. So I just felt like OK to even 1411 01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:10,520 be mad. After years later that you've he 1412 01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:16,000 stuck a pillow in his face and he died at your hands, she still 1413 01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:17,120 don't feel. Like he's. 1414 01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:20,240 Gotten the what? He deserves punishment. 1415 01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,120 Yeah. What he deserves. 1416 01:23:22,440 --> 01:23:23,960 Yeah, she's still spitting. On. 1417 01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:28,760 Him and kidnapping some innocent girl here, you know she kidnaps 1418 01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:33,400 Heeju. It's all to fuck with Pixel and 1419 01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:37,040 Yuyun Suk's character, the fake Pixel, and I'm just. 1420 01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:40,840 Like why? What what was the her long con 1421 01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:46,320 was literally I'm going to keep this girl hidden for 20 years, 1422 01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:53,360 same as my son was missing for 20 years whom I thought was dead 1423 01:23:54,440 --> 01:23:55,800 and I'm going to make. Sure, Yuyun Suk. 1424 01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:57,200 Is in pain. He's suffering. 1425 01:23:57,200 --> 01:24:01,000 He thinks his beloved is dead. And then I'm going to pull the 1426 01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:02,680 rabbit out of the hat and here she is. 1427 01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:08,480 You've lost. 20. Years of time together again. 1428 01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:13,480 This doesn't seem it's very much the same as he do. 1429 01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:16,200 Calling you gonna suck every night half baked. 1430 01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:18,680 Intriguing. Plot. 1431 01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:22,160 Intriguing thought lady, but 20 years? 1432 01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,040 You think you could keep this up for 20 years? 1433 01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:26,360 Yeah, No. It didn't. 1434 01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:27,240 It didn't. Home girl. 1435 01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,240 Yeah. So who would you say? 1436 01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,640 Which character made sense on the show? 1437 01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:39,200 Which character made sense? I would say the dad like. 1438 01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:43,440 The presidential hopeful dad OK 'cause he. 1439 01:24:43,440 --> 01:24:46,320 Was pretty. Not easy to read, but I would 1440 01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:48,880 just say he made sense. He made sense. 1441 01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:52,800 He was focused on being the presidential candidate, on 1442 01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,880 winning that. He's highly regulated. 1443 01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:59,560 Everything about him is a regulated, can't control his 1444 01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:03,160 emotions, he's violent, he's has outbursts. 1445 01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:05,440 And I was like, yeah, I get that guy. 1446 01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:11,480 I think I got him. And I got Hanum June, yes, the 1447 01:25:11,480 --> 01:25:12,280 second male. Lead. 1448 01:25:12,480 --> 01:25:15,080 Yeah, the second male lead. Those are the only two people I 1449 01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:17,080 got. He's just dad. 1450 01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:19,880 I did not. No, I didn't get that. 1451 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:21,760 That step dad like. Hated her. 1452 01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:26,960 I'm convinced the condone SIL. He condoned it basically for 20 1453 01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:29,280 years. Yeah, and then has a. 1454 01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:32,440 Oh, she can talk. Oh God, so. 1455 01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:36,640 And I have my notes because I went ape shit taking notes on 1456 01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:39,080 episodes 11 and 12. None of the other episodes I 1457 01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:40,560 have notes for but 11:00 and 12:00. 1458 01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,600 I was like let me sit down here and watch this and write some 1459 01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:48,000 notes down I have here. Is she out of her fucking mind? 1460 01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:51,920 If something happens. To her, these were her 1461 01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:55,320 instructions, right? The mom's instructions where if 1462 01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:59,200 something happens to her, she has the secretary. 1463 01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:04,000 Such bodyguard. I can't even say save my 1464 01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:09,720 murderous son and kill he do. No sense whatsoever, No. 1465 01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:12,680 Sense No. Sense at all She was like, I'm 1466 01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:15,160 still going to go for the revenge and I'm still going to 1467 01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:19,480 be behind my son who's literally murdered like four or five 1468 01:26:19,480 --> 01:26:23,000 innocent children, a couple of people, I think fully grown 1469 01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:26,760 adults, I think during the cross of the show, just completely 1470 01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:32,320 unhinged, cannot redeem him or just medicate away this 1471 01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:38,280 sociopathic murderous tendency. Yeah, let him out. 1472 01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,160 Let him free and kill this innocent girl. 1473 01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:45,960 I just don't understand like the beef that she had was so deep 1474 01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:49,040 and for what? Nada, Just. 1475 01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:52,960 Yeah, the fucking underground. Chamber with the two bank 1476 01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:55,520 vaults. Oh my gosh. 1477 01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:59,480 And the the assistant. This I'm sorry. 1478 01:26:59,480 --> 01:27:04,200 The secretary opens it with a key that slots into the lock on 1479 01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,920 the old man's portrait and the lock was his signet ring. 1480 01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,680 I have in my notes. What in the parasite in all 1481 01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:13,040 caps? I was. 1482 01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:15,960 I was. Expecting I don't know why I was 1483 01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:20,760 expecting that too, but the way the secretary was going hard for 1484 01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:27,720 mom, I thought he was gonna be the father of oh the real pixon 1485 01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:33,040 and maybe they had an affair like that's there's so many ways 1486 01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:34,840 and The thing is what's sad is you're. 1487 01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:40,960 Coming up with better mock John. That's what's sad is. 1488 01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:42,840 That. Probably both of us can sit here 1489 01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:47,320 and spitball a better show that's even more outrageous, but 1490 01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:50,200 it works better than what we got. 1491 01:27:50,480 --> 01:27:53,840 That's true. That's true, but maybe that's 1492 01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:59,960 what was sustaining me because my active imagination was just 1493 01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:05,000 running wild with this could have and this could happen and 1494 01:28:05,440 --> 01:28:08,400 and then I just get disappointed like and then you're just like, 1495 01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:10,760 oh. Oh. 1496 01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,680 I got mad when the. Secretary, let's heed you out. 1497 01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,680 Yeah, which I felt like was very Snow White, Right, Snow White 1498 01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:20,200 and the Huntsman type of deal where like the huntsman's like, 1499 01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:25,000 she's after your heart run away and very much Snow White coated. 1500 01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:29,600 So she gets out and I'm like, OK, so she's been starving 1501 01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:33,480 herself for four days. She has energy. 1502 01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:35,800 And her hair looks perfectly. Clean. 1503 01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:39,640 Her skin is moisturized and it just wasn't computing. 1504 01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:42,480 If I don't get out of bed for a day, I look like shit. 1505 01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:48,800 She was locked in. A bank vault basically for four 1506 01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:53,240 days. Was not eating, barely drinking. 1507 01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:55,240 She looks like she came out of the salon. 1508 01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:00,280 She did crash her car. And then was taken. 1509 01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:03,080 Yeah, she crashed into the. Fucking barrier. 1510 01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:07,640 So where's the neck brace? Like I'm, I was just like, Oh my 1511 01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:11,320 God, this show just. Don't understand? 1512 01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:13,840 Why? The cop was like, I'm going to 1513 01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:17,280 follow closely behind you. I was like, OK. 1514 01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:19,320 Great, great. Great, Got it. 1515 01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:22,440 Noted that cop was 15 minutes behind them. 1516 01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:24,720 Yeah, yeah. He was. 1517 01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:27,280 I mean, what protection? What Police protection? 1518 01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:30,440 That's what I. Mean by incompetent police I 1519 01:29:30,440 --> 01:29:33,920 cannot do it and then. This fucking. 1520 01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:38,000 Guy you young sucks character. Once the real pixon comes up 1521 01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:42,600 with a shotgun or a rifle and is taunting them from outside the 1522 01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:47,040 vehicle, I'm like OK, perfect. Yu Yun Suk is. 1523 01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:49,440 Going to step. On the gas and run this guy 1524 01:29:49,440 --> 01:29:51,400 over. That was in my mind. 1525 01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:53,360 I was like, OK, this is what's going to happen next. 1526 01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:55,080 No, no, no, that's not what happens. 1527 01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:57,240 Yu Yun Suk. Gets. 1528 01:29:57,440 --> 01:30:02,680 Out of the car and I was like just run him the fuck over. 1529 01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:05,560 You have a one like a 1 1/2 ton vehicle. 1530 01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:09,440 He's not going to brace himself and make it OK. 1531 01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:14,320 It was baffling, baffling. That choice for him to get out 1532 01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:17,160 of the car and face off against him one-on-one. 1533 01:30:17,440 --> 01:30:19,760 Enough time for the cops to come and surround him. 1534 01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:24,240 And then we see this nightmare scenario that happens in Heju's 1535 01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:28,920 head, where kids get shot by the killer, by the real. 1536 01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:31,680 Just stop. Just. 1537 01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:34,160 Stop with it these terrible edits. 1538 01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:38,000 Oh my gosh. And then the real pixel. 1539 01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:43,240 On just says a word to him and his whole world crumbles. 1540 01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:46,760 What Listen to? Me. 1541 01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:52,800 Hiju has never spoken about the stepbrother, has never shown 1542 01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:56,560 interest in the stepbrother. We don't have a scene of her 1543 01:30:56,560 --> 01:31:01,400 going to the mausoleum or the grave of this little boy and 1544 01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:04,440 paying her respects and feeling so sorry and missing him and all 1545 01:31:04,440 --> 01:31:06,160 that shit. We don't have any sort of 1546 01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:07,960 relationship. That's a word. 1547 01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:10,000 For her SO. What? 1548 01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:16,080 Why does you Yunsuk think? Oh my God, I need to fuck off 1549 01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:20,600 across the world to Argon and Ghoster. 1550 01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:22,360 You know what I thought? I. 1551 01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:26,080 Really thought he was going to say or it was going to be 1552 01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:29,760 revealed. It was actually grandpa who was 1553 01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:35,320 killing the kids and framed the real Pixar on and got rid of him 1554 01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:39,720 so he'd feel like, Oh my gosh, it was my dad. 1555 01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:41,120 That's what I thought too. I thought. 1556 01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:45,800 Oh, maybe that killer is just crazy because he was almost 1557 01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:49,240 drowned to death by exactly a grandfather. 1558 01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:52,080 So that's. What where all the ticks and all 1559 01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:56,040 of his mania comes from? But no, it's not what what you 1560 01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:58,920 said, which was had this working theory that the old man was the 1561 01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:00,720 real killer of all the orphanage kids. 1562 01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:03,800 Yeah. And he was blaming it on PIXA 1563 01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:05,680 and or just. Killing his grandchild because 1564 01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:08,920 he's. Murderer, which would to me 1565 01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:14,080 would also make sense with. Doctors Hutchins like 1566 01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:17,800 investigation and who has seen this ring? 1567 01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:21,480 And there used to be rich people who used to live here and the 1568 01:32:21,480 --> 01:32:24,960 orphanage like that would have made sense to me. 1569 01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:28,760 But all you came to tell me was, oh, it was. 1570 01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:33,840 He caught the hit on What's the. Yeah, no, it was stupid. 1571 01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,040 It was stupid. I would have preferred that. 1572 01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:41,800 He whispered in in his ear and said, hey, your dad is the real 1573 01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:45,240 killer of all of these kids. I've never killed anybody in my 1574 01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:46,680 life. I'm innocent. 1575 01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:51,320 You are the son of a murderer. That would have been in five 1576 01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:55,120 times that would have been. Way better of a gotcha. 1577 01:32:55,120 --> 01:33:00,240 Moment in that scene where you young sucks character is just 1578 01:33:00,440 --> 01:33:05,440 crumbles yeah his world is shaken and he. 1579 01:33:05,440 --> 01:33:10,160 Just. Fucks off for six months to. 1580 01:33:10,160 --> 01:33:13,760 Do penance in. This form of self flatulation, 1581 01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:17,640 yeah, because of the sins of the father thing that a lot of K 1582 01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:19,480 dramas like to do. Again, it's very old school. 1583 01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:22,840 Yeah, very old school. But I would have taken that, but 1584 01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:23,520 I would have. Taken it. 1585 01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:25,240 I would have taken that way over. 1586 01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:29,400 Hey, you killed this little. Boy, your dad killed this little 1587 01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:33,840 boy, so not enough. Not enough. 1588 01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:36,080 And it just reduced. I thought it was a character 1589 01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:39,720 assassination. You know, all this growth and if 1590 01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:43,160 you can call it all this growth over the course of the show of 1591 01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:46,440 him and her getting to know each other and communicating and 1592 01:33:46,440 --> 01:33:49,920 really expressing their wants and needs and falling deeper and 1593 01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:53,640 deeper in love. He just like doesn't think, oh, 1594 01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:56,520 she's going to hear about this. She's going to find out if she 1595 01:33:56,520 --> 01:34:00,000 doesn't already. And she's not going to forgive 1596 01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:01,560 me. She's not going to be with me, 1597 01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:05,920 baby, She ran her motherfucking car off a Cliff for you. 1598 01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:09,760 Of course she's going to listen to what you got to say, and 1599 01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:10,680 she's going to. Forgive you, She's a. 1600 01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:14,800 Rider die literally ride or die like that bitch is crazy for 1601 01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:16,840 you. Which is so wild because she 1602 01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:22,040 wanted a divorce and. You know, I don't know man, I 1603 01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:25,240 got mad even in episode 11 with the. 1604 01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:26,920 Vignette of what could have been. 1605 01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:28,920 And it's like this whole Christmas thing. 1606 01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:33,240 I got mad because sure. They had a. 1607 01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:35,240 Christmas make out scene and it was sexy. 1608 01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:36,520 It was hot. Sure, sure, sure. 1609 01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:41,800 They were cooking steak in a toaster oven and I got offended. 1610 01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:45,960 I was just getting mad at like any little thing in. 1611 01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:49,360 This show. By the end of it, you just be 1612 01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:51,160 triggered because you're triggered by. 1613 01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:52,800 Every fucking thing. I was like. 1614 01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:56,880 Is that a fucking steak? Are they cooking 2 steaks in the 1615 01:34:56,880 --> 01:35:00,840 toast oven and he burned it? It could have been an air fryer. 1616 01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:03,640 It was no air fryer. It wasn't no air fryer. 1617 01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:05,760 I was like, did they? Just put it in there to broil 1618 01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:07,760 it, like after cooking it in a pan. 1619 01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:11,840 And I had all these questions about the stupid steak in this 1620 01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:15,560 Christmas vignette. Even her nightmare just didn't 1621 01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:18,240 make no sense either. The nightmare of the police 1622 01:35:18,480 --> 01:35:24,920 surrounding them, the police just letting the killer shoot. 1623 01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:28,400 Union suck. What I was like, wait, wait. 1624 01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:29,800 Wait, what? World. 1625 01:35:29,800 --> 01:35:34,280 Yeah, the gratuitous shot of the real pixon. 1626 01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:36,840 They show him on television, on the news. 1627 01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:40,520 His hand, his dead arm flops out from underneath the sheet. 1628 01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:43,720 Never. That would never happen on 1629 01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:46,080 television. Never happened on television. 1630 01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:51,360 I even got mad at the mom who lost her shit, Pixon's mom, 1631 01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:55,520 because they show her crying in prison over the flop, the arm 1632 01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:58,080 flopping out and she's like, Oh no, my son is dead. 1633 01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:01,640 She starts crying. I got mad at her Botox and 1634 01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:05,360 filler face. I was like, she can't even cry. 1635 01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:11,040 Then they go oh. She appealed to get the death. 1636 01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:13,800 Penalty because life in prison wasn't enough for her she want 1637 01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:17,680 to be reunited with her dead son who's literally the worst 1638 01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:22,880 problem and I'm like yeah, do it do it I don't care I don't give 1639 01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:24,000 a shit and. Then. 1640 01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:30,840 The male lead disappeared, gave all his assets away to charity. 1641 01:36:31,440 --> 01:36:33,760 I was like, why? Why? 1642 01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:38,520 You can live in luxury. There was no corruption to be 1643 01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:41,240 like this is dirty money, why did you? 1644 01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:42,360 Need Why give the money? Away. 1645 01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:43,720 I'm confused. I'm like we. 1646 01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:45,840 Can go to Bora Bora when? You're back, Hun. 1647 01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:47,920 Why are you giving all the money away? 1648 01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:50,480 I was getting mad at everything. Everything. 1649 01:36:50,480 --> 01:36:51,800 I was getting pissed at everything. 1650 01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:55,680 I got mad at her Christmas tree. She had this dollar store 1651 01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:58,560 Christmas tree and it just looked horrible. 1652 01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:01,840 Horrible for a fake tree. I've seen Dillard's have better 1653 01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:04,200 artificial trees. I was mad. 1654 01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:06,840 I was big mad in the last two episodes because it just 1655 01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:09,280 culminated right? Like I was already frustrated. 1656 01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:10,920 I was already picking this shit apart. 1657 01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:13,440 But this is just me writing down notes at this point. 1658 01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:16,920 I was mad at the six O 4 area code. 1659 01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:19,640 Because he was. Calling her on a new number from 1660 01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:23,840 Oregon that was four O 6 and she was putting 22 together 4O66O 1661 01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:27,520 four. I was like babe fuck off, fuck 1662 01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:29,080 off. Then they come and say, oh, he 1663 01:37:29,080 --> 01:37:30,840 was a war. Correspondent back in the day. 1664 01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:34,720 That was a if. I looked away for a second in 1665 01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:39,640 episode one or two and didn't see when they said offhand, 1666 01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:41,520 yeah, he was a war correspondent. 1667 01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:45,480 No, no, just bringing that back in the final episode. 1668 01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:50,080 I heard so many people bitching online saying oh this was all in 1669 01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:52,840 the book, This was how the web. Tune was written. 1670 01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:55,280 Argon was in there. He fucked up Argon. 1671 01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:57,520 It's all in there. I'm like babes, I don't give a 1672 01:37:57,520 --> 01:37:59,120 fuck. I don't give a fuck. 1673 01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:01,520 Let me tell you right now what's wrong. 1674 01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:04,160 Is that people don't look at if you read. 1675 01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:07,880 The book, any book that something is based on, you're 1676 01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:11,320 going to have all the context. You're going to have everything 1677 01:38:11,480 --> 01:38:15,920 in mind already. And to me, movie adaptation or 1678 01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:19,040 AK drama adaptation in this case, should stand on its own. 1679 01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:22,240 Yeah, it's a separate thing, separate entity, separate piece 1680 01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:23,280 of art. I agree. 1681 01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:26,120 You can't come and tell me. Oh, it's all in the literature. 1682 01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:29,280 I'm like, babe, no, the lit that I saw is right in front of me. 1683 01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:32,040 And it really doesn't track that. 1684 01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:37,280 He was a spy, basically, and could survive six months in a 1685 01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:39,080 Hut in Oregon. OK. 1686 01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:42,960 He was wearing tailored suits the entire time we saw him, and 1687 01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:47,800 now he's up here in tactical vests, and yeah, he looks good. 1688 01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:49,240 He looks good. Great. 1689 01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:53,000 I guess that's the only reason to put this in here is because 1690 01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:56,240 he's rocking it. Yeah, but that doesn't work. 1691 01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:57,800 Doesn't work. Doesn't compute. 1692 01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:00,760 She gets kidnapped another time when she goes to Oregon and 1693 01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:04,240 trying to find him. Maybe this is the one kidnapped. 1694 01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:07,280 What is she going? What was she thinking? 1695 01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:11,320 I oh, I was so mad at her. Even her. 1696 01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:14,040 Outfit to go traipsing. Along in the woods, I was like, 1697 01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:17,480 I'm mad at that. Are you wearing slacks in the 1698 01:39:17,480 --> 01:39:20,600 jungle? I was mad all around. 1699 01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:23,080 Yeah. He basically just exiled himself 1700 01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:24,800 because he felt guilty for ruining her life. 1701 01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:27,120 He didn't do shit like he's the victim. 1702 01:39:27,480 --> 01:39:30,840 And then he comes back. Where's the therapy like I need? 1703 01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:34,120 Therapy just as. Much as these characters, after 1704 01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:38,520 watching all this bullshit, she was fine. 1705 01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:41,480 She heard what he had to. Say about. 1706 01:39:41,480 --> 01:39:45,240 His dad ordering the hit and she was like, I'm here, I'm in front 1707 01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:48,360 of you. There's nobody to punish. 1708 01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:51,680 You're only punishing me. Come back to me. 1709 01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:54,360 I have this direct quote. I needed to punish myself. 1710 01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:58,440 I needed an excuse. Oh my God, what happened to 1711 01:39:58,440 --> 01:40:01,120 Don't let? Anyone tell you they don't want 1712 01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:04,320 you twice or show you they don't want you twice? 1713 01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:09,880 I don't think she got that memo. Because the way oh you left 1714 01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:14,400 after all this shit we've been through, we're done, we're done. 1715 01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:17,960 Yep, the only thing she didn't do was catch a grenade for. 1716 01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:18,760 Him. She did. 1717 01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:22,640 Everything else, yeah, it went too far. 1718 01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:25,840 And then you get this steamy sex scene in the self. 1719 01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:30,600 Flatulent shack in Oregon with some crazy open mouth kissing 1720 01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:34,800 and I'm like, I skipped too little too late yeah I was so 1721 01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:36,040 pissed off I. Just. 1722 01:40:36,440 --> 01:40:39,240 Skipped that. Whole scene and I was super 1723 01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:41,440 pissed. I remember being super pissed 1724 01:40:41,440 --> 01:40:44,200 off with the background because I'm like, why does the 1725 01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:50,080 background look like a life action cartoon that's not a real 1726 01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:53,200 background? Like why does it look like an 1727 01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:58,960 episode of the Survivor cartoon? Like I was, oh, I was pissed 1728 01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:00,360 off. And then I turned it off and I 1729 01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:02,800 was like, OK, let's go on to love Scout. 1730 01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:07,400 Just let's move on. Because. 1731 01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:07,960 He. I. 1732 01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:11,840 Was shocked. That he even went so far as to 1733 01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:15,640 say, oh, I came to Oregon because the sunsets. 1734 01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:22,440 I love sunsets, and the sunsets reminded me there's. 1735 01:41:22,440 --> 01:41:24,840 Sunsets everywhere. All around the. 1736 01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:28,880 World Why you got to go to Oregon in this active war zone 1737 01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:33,000 or whatever the fuck. Go to Guatemala, go to Fiji. 1738 01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:36,520 Go to Canada. Go to Japan like you can go 1739 01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:40,080 anywhere and see sunsets and make yourself feel bad. 1740 01:41:40,440 --> 01:41:43,640 I think they just wanted to give the. 1741 01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:47,800 Folks who have read the book Like a token. 1742 01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:51,200 He never showed an interest in sunsets before. 1743 01:41:51,440 --> 01:41:54,760 Well, he. Did he did. 1744 01:41:55,040 --> 01:42:02,960 There was his phone background was a sunset and sorry I'm. 1745 01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:07,840 Rolling my eyes. Can't see that, but I am and. 1746 01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:10,560 I think he. It was because of. 1747 01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:16,920 Her like he was watching her through one of like her windows 1748 01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:20,080 or something like that. And he turns around and he takes 1749 01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:23,120 a picture of the sunset. Something like that. 1750 01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:26,920 He found a way to link sunsets to her. 1751 01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:31,080 OK, you sound very skeptical. Well, I am. 1752 01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:32,120 I am. It's the same. 1753 01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:35,240 Thing as the the war. Correspondence and Oregon and 1754 01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:38,800 all these things that are mentioned just once in passing. 1755 01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:40,560 Yeah. I don't feel like the sunsets 1756 01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:43,000 were necessarily a token that I should have held onto. 1757 01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:46,120 So no, that's true. That's true. 1758 01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:49,680 They wear it and the show. That much for us to feel like, 1759 01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:54,640 oh, that's unimportant. That's the sky that he took a 1760 01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:58,440 picture of when he saw Heju for the first, it didn't have any 1761 01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:01,480 significance. I mean he should have just went 1762 01:43:01,480 --> 01:43:03,440 to China where they manufacture phones. 1763 01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:08,120 Since their relationship really started on the phone and they 1764 01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:09,800 should have continued on the phone. 1765 01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:15,320 Oh God, a lot of like. Just overtly. 1766 01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:19,080 Sickeningly romantic things like he changes his name to Yuyang, 1767 01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:23,640 meaning you and love. I thought that was silly because 1768 01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:27,080 he would have had a name. While he lived with the fishing 1769 01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:30,120 guy, what was his name? Then what was his name? 1770 01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:32,680 Second couple babies get engaged. 1771 01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:35,760 We didn't see any of their romance or courtship. 1772 01:43:36,280 --> 01:43:39,480 They're just engaged. It's a shame the mom 1773 01:43:39,480 --> 01:43:43,040 reconciliation that again, I don't believe for a second, I 1774 01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:46,560 don't think it was enough. It was just not addressed that 1775 01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:53,280 the mom was so toxic and cruel to heed you throughout the show. 1776 01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:56,800 And then at the end she's just like, Oh my God, my baby, she's 1777 01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:59,880 missing. And then at the end she's all of 1778 01:43:59,880 --> 01:44:04,160 a sudden just devastated. We don't get closure with dad 1779 01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:07,440 then 11. Final shove to push us over the 1780 01:44:07,440 --> 01:44:11,080 Cliff. Is the controversial, what is it 1781 01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:14,040 war-torn Ismail? Oh no. 1782 01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:16,160 And some other country. I can't remember the other 1783 01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:17,360 country. Which is. 1784 01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:22,120 A conflict all too familiar to us today. 1785 01:44:22,120 --> 01:44:27,200 It's just a stuff actively for. Israel. 1786 01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:34,320 And the struggles in Gaza with Hamas, that really pissed me off 1787 01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:37,680 and. Yeah, there was just no need. 1788 01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:40,040 It was so controversial. It's such. 1789 01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:43,440 A hot topic, and no matter where you stand on the issue, for the 1790 01:44:43,440 --> 01:44:50,680 creators to include this was just too controversial as to be 1791 01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:53,520 stupid. It was really unnecessary. 1792 01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:57,360 So unnecessary. That knocked it down another. 1793 01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:02,280 Peg for me, so I'd give. It 3/3 social models. 1794 01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:04,560 Yeah, three social. Models. 1795 01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:08,160 Somebody told me that the. 2nd. Female lead that actress. 1796 01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:12,400 Was getting a lot of hate on her social media pages for 1797 01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:16,200 delivering the lines about why blame her. 1798 01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:18,200 I'm like why blame her? She didn't write it. 1799 01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:19,920 Yeah, she didn't write it. That's. 1800 01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:22,120 Ridiculous. Get smart, people. 1801 01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:25,240 It was just too bold and stupid to have him. 1802 01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:27,560 And then the whole thing was he was going to negotiate some 1803 01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:32,280 hostage situation over there and presumably the Middle East. 1804 01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:34,680 As an international audience especially, I think we're 1805 01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:36,440 reeling. We're just like, wow, what? 1806 01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:39,160 Yeah. I remember turning off my TV 1807 01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:40,160 when I saw that. I was like. 1808 01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:47,400 You just of everything, you just had to destroy it, make it go 1809 01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:49,320 all the way to the bottom for me. 1810 01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:51,480 Yeah, I didn't. I didn't like that. 1811 01:45:51,480 --> 01:45:54,000 I thought it was. It really cheapened it. 1812 01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:56,440 Yeah. And the conflict is. 1813 01:45:56,440 --> 01:46:00,200 Not. Something you just say by the 1814 01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:03,520 wayside and think it's OK and move on. 1815 01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:08,440 No, you're getting me serious. But let's just say I did not 1816 01:46:08,440 --> 01:46:12,200 appreciate it. And I was very disappointed, but 1817 01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:15,120 not surprised. They have a way of fucking 1818 01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:18,240 things up at the end. It was just very insensitive. 1819 01:46:18,480 --> 01:46:20,480 Yeah, that's the. Word. 1820 01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:22,080 They could have made-up anything. 1821 01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:25,960 I agree they could have. North Korea is right there. 1822 01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:29,840 Not even North Korea, if they. Wanted a fictional place they. 1823 01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:34,240 Could have gone to that place in descendants of the sun. 1824 01:46:34,520 --> 01:46:38,080 They could have revived that and it's it's all in the same 1825 01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:39,400 universe. It would be a. 1826 01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:44,520 You know, a multiverse of because the way they've set him. 1827 01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:49,920 Up at the end it feels like he could actually be in a new show 1828 01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:53,040 of Vagabond and it wouldn't make sense. 1829 01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:57,720 So I just feel like they could have done just a Vagabond tie in 1830 01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:01,160 universe. No, Yeah. 1831 01:47:01,160 --> 01:47:02,360 And I. Saw some people saying. 1832 01:47:02,360 --> 01:47:03,680 This felt like descendants of the sun. 1833 01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:07,360 Ending babe Descendants of the Sun ending did it better and it 1834 01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:11,840 actually sort of made sense because he was a soldier and 1835 01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:13,800 then he gets captured. He's kind of like this prisoner 1836 01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:17,880 of war thing with the second male lead of the second couple. 1837 01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:20,160 He like by some miracle makes it back. 1838 01:47:20,160 --> 01:47:22,120 OK, fine, I'll take it. It makes sense. 1839 01:47:22,120 --> 01:47:24,680 Like why he would even be over there, why he would even be 1840 01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:28,280 gone. And lest we forget, I think the 1841 01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:32,480 final scene in Descendants of the Sun is they get an SOS call. 1842 01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:36,160 There's an emergency. There's a volcano erupting in 1843 01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:38,960 Canada. Don't get me started. 1844 01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:42,800 And that's where we. Where do we end in the Senate? 1845 01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:49,400 It's I mean, that's super out of left field, but Nah, you just 1846 01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:51,560 reminded because I was so. Pissed off. 1847 01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:53,720 They were like, we're in Vancouver. 1848 01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:56,640 I think they were supposed to be in Vancouver and they showed the 1849 01:47:56,640 --> 01:47:59,560 Seattle skyline and I got pissed off. 1850 01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:05,600 I was like, what the hell, like. Stop it. 1851 01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:08,040 Also we've covered. Descendants of the Sun on the 1852 01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:09,480 Tabak feed. So if you want to go. 1853 01:48:09,480 --> 01:48:12,440 Back you can listen to our full thoughts and hear me and Rico 1854 01:48:12,440 --> 01:48:17,080 just go into it go into it so. That's it. 1855 01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:19,760 Like that's. The show a pappy ending. 1856 01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:23,520 Yeah, I love how you said I don't expect this to. 1857 01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:27,560 Be a long episode I did. I did say that. 1858 01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:28,920 And here we are, two hours later. 1859 01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:31,960 But we had some shit to talk about. 1860 01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:35,840 We did I, I think I got it all off my chest. 1861 01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:38,600 Did you have anything? Else you wanted to add about 1862 01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:44,400 this show, it was a ride for 20/24 and. 1863 01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:46,240 That's it. I can't. 1864 01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:51,200 I tried to rewatch it to talk about this and all of a sudden 1865 01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:57,760 my brain was like absolutely not blocked What you needed from 1866 01:48:57,760 --> 01:48:58,760 that. Time. 1867 01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:02,440 You got. Oh, you don't need it right now. 1868 01:49:02,440 --> 01:49:05,880 There was a season for this show and that. 1869 01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:07,920 Season is gone. That season is gone. 1870 01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:10,240 Yeah, you've benefited. As much as you could. 1871 01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:13,840 From this show and now you're just going to set it down, leave 1872 01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:16,120 by the wayside. Yeah, the last thing I'll say, 1873 01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:18,320 and this comes from Time magazine and I was like, oh, 1874 01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:21,200 great point that same Time magazine thing thing that said 1875 01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:22,520 this was the mock Jiang of the year. 1876 01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:26,360 They said it's worth noting that, like the ending of other 1877 01:49:26,400 --> 01:49:30,080 drama Lovely Runner, when the Phone Rings falls into the 1878 01:49:30,080 --> 01:49:34,440 Magical Cure, or throwing off the disability trope, which 1879 01:49:34,440 --> 01:49:37,280 links a happy ending to a character no longer having a 1880 01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:41,680 disability. Oh, it goes doubly because the 1881 01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:43,480 sister got. Miraculously cured. 1882 01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:48,400 And Heju also can speak barely using sign language. 1883 01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:51,760 And then she decides at the end of the show I'm going to go back 1884 01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:53,720 to interpreting. Yeah. 1885 01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:56,360 And really, like, she doesn't have lasting consequences. 1886 01:49:56,360 --> 01:49:59,000 She's not really disabled. Yeah. 1887 01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:02,960 It's hard when, like a lot of K dramas, fall into this pitfall. 1888 01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:05,520 Of. You know, you got somebody in a 1889 01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:07,800 wheelchair, you got somebody who's deaf, somebody who's mute. 1890 01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:10,720 Somebody with amnesia. Somebody with whatever they did 1891 01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:13,760 this in Good Bad Mother as well from 2023. 1892 01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:17,080 And that really bothered me really bothered me in that show. 1893 01:50:17,920 --> 01:50:22,520 And it's a blight another blight on the show too, as they put it 1894 01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:25,000 in Time magazine. This trope can reinforce the 1895 01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:28,680 idea that disabled people are unable to live fulfilling lives 1896 01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:31,120 without being cured of their disability. 1897 01:50:31,440 --> 01:50:34,240 And that's just not not a good message. 1898 01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:38,360 It's not. It keeps the marginalized on 1899 01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:40,000 the. Fringes of society. 1900 01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:43,520 And I don't think not. I don't think it's not a good 1901 01:50:43,520 --> 01:50:47,680 message to send out with that. We're going to put a, put a stop 1902 01:50:47,680 --> 01:50:48,880 on this. We're just not. 1903 01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:50,320 We're not. Going to return to it. 1904 01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:54,000 I, I'm sure that Carol would love to hear from you guys. 1905 01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:57,960 Carol, where can they find you online to talk about when the 1906 01:50:57,960 --> 01:51:02,240 phone rings? Well, with the landscape of 1907 01:51:02,240 --> 01:51:08,840 social media right now. I am on Instagram as K Dramas 1908 01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:14,840 musings and and on Blue Sky as K Drama Musings and you can find 1909 01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:18,480 me on those two platforms now. Nice, nice. 1910 01:51:19,360 --> 01:51:23,560 You can talk to me or Carol. About when the phone rings, but 1911 01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:25,560 that's a wrap. That's been our show. 1912 01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:29,760 Thank you, Carol, for coming on and doing this extensive dress 1913 01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:33,480 down when the phone rings. Thank you for having me. 1914 01:51:33,480 --> 01:51:36,840 I had fun. I'm glad I have the show. 1915 01:51:36,840 --> 01:51:40,080 Out of my system and we move on to the next. 1916 01:51:40,440 --> 01:51:42,720 On to the next big one. That's our show. 1917 01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:44,760 I'm Jessica and this has been the TEBA. 1918 01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:46,120 Kia Rambles Podcast.