I'm Jessica in. This is Deb aqui Rambles.
Were a couple of friends review, Korean dramas, and for this
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I'm well, how are you doing? Well, I haven't had you on since
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So I'm excited to get going on this review and we're going to
do today. We're going even further back in
time and the kdrama world. We're going back to the year
2004, so review Full House. Yeah, yes, so I know when we
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All right, so I'm going to go ahead and preface this by saying
I live in Florida. It is currently summer in
Florida and there is a summer storm happening outside.
It's a thunderstorm. So if you hear some noise in the
background I'm sorry. So that's just Florida.
I can't change the weather right back.
So for Full House my gosh, It changed the weather.
No, I can not currently no funny enough.
I just watched Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs the other
day for the first time ever that animated movie and I was like,
wow. So anyway talking about changing
the weather. So my drama listen Ops is for
Full House hunting in an aspiring script.
Script writer lives in a house called Full House built by her
late father. One day her two best friends
trick her into Believing. She has won a free vacation and
sell her house. While she's away on the plane,
she meets famous actor. EV en J through comedic events,
they get acquainted during her vacation.
And when she returns, she discovers that her house was has
been sold to him though. They don't get along with each
other because of her messy Tendencies, and his bad temper
and zealous cleanliness. They agree to live with each
other. In the beginning, Gian works as
his made, in order to buy her house back, they alter their
Moment when youngjae decides to win back the love of his life.
Kang hee won in a bid to make her one.
Jealous. The two protagonists enter into
a contract marriage with a six-month term complications
arise when the couple starts to fall for each other.
Yes. Oh we're gonna get into it.
This aired originally from July to September 2004, it is a
summer show and good for us. I have like 90-something degree
weather happening. Outside.
So we're in the peak of Summer. Y'all in Florida 2004.
I don't know if you if you care to say what you were doing in
2004, but I'll just go ahead and set the scene and I'll out
myself. I was 12 years old in 2004 and
your babysitter we'll put it out, okay.
Yeah. And to put it in perspective,
Brad Pitt was still married to Jennifer Aniston at the time.
This was the year that he met Angelina Jolie on the set of mr.
And mrs. Smith, but they were still, he
was still married to Jen. Mark Zuckerberg launched
Facebook in 2004 from his Harvard dorm.
It was not be Facebook. Metaverse that we have today.
It was the Facebook. It was called the Facebook.
Yes. Yes.
Watch The Social Network. If you haven't already,
excellent film the TV sitcom Friends, aired its season.
In Finale this year. I'm I'm pretty shocked that that
one. As a matter of fact, and here
are some movies that came out in 2004, Kill Bill, Vol 2, Howl's
Moving Castle. The Notebook, The Incredibles
Mean Girls Spider-Man, 2, Shrek 2 50, First Dates and the third
Harry Potter movie Prisoner of Azkaban.
What was on the radio? Well I'll let you know.
Mina, we have Yeah, the single by Usher featuring Lil Jon and
Ludacris it won a bunch of Grammys and a billboard song of
the year. Stop it.
Stop it Mina. It's more like, oh okay, I
didn't want to do. I didn't want to do that but I
went ahead and just did it, I got it out of the way.
Also the song, If I Ain't Got You by Alicia Keys was released.
This year and won some Grammys, Coldplay's Clocks.
The song Clocks was winning Grammys, and so was the band
Evanescence. So, I mean, this was a Zealand
time for music talk about Golden Era.
But honestly, this is the climate, this is the time.
Only three years removed from 9/11, this is when Full House
was Least nobody had an iPhone. Nobody knew what an iPhone was.
Okay this is the flip phone ERA. This is LimeWire downloading
music era, just like Blockbuster Video, the store and like movie
rental places. Yes, yeah.
Netflix did not exist. I mean the list goes on and on
so I just want to set the scene here when we're going back to
0-4 like it's a serious thing. So the show Full House is only
16 episodes long and the director is pure minsu.
He's directed things like worlds within from 08 which also Stars
so I'm like yo he directed heartstrings from 2011, which
stars what's her name? Oh my God, we just had her In
The Heirs, I forgot her name. I feel bad whatever.
Susie no no heirs. And I feel terrible, but anyway
it'll come to me later in the episode.
So heartstrings Iris to the producers, the third charm,
these are all his projects, it obviously was based on a web to
on a cartoon. Once who Ian wrote the cartoon
and Min Hyo, Jung wrote the screenplay mean he'll John
really hasn't done. Done anything else besides Full
House. The only two other writing
credits to their name rules of love, from 2005 and Cat on the
roof the year before Full House in 2003.
So I'm just going to list off our two leads because Full House
is led by song hye-kyo, she plays hon daeun, she was a grand
total of 23 years old when she did Full House.
And what do you think about song hye-kyo is?
Like full house because we covered the glory.
We've covered her in descendants of the sun, that's 2016 and 2020
3ish respectively and honestly, she's done a bunch of other
stuff and I we've discussed her and other episodes but what, how
are you feeling about? So I'm gonna kill in this show.
I it reminded me a lot of like this era in kdramas where there
was a lot of and that's a, they're still not, but female
protagonist who are Annoyingly endearing, or at least, that's
what they want you to think. I kept thinking of Boys Over
Flowers and John Dee, the character, John Dean, how truly
annoying? She was how much I actually
fully hated her, um, but I thought song hit you up in her
portrayal, actually managed as Jian to be endearing.
That was my opinion, at least that she was cute and endearing.
Except she's also like clumsy and like, you know, Annoying
dirty, all those things I agree. Completely.
So I feel like song hye-kyo has the reputation Being a serious
actress. Like, all of her characters are
very stoic. Beautiful, elegant.
And not very loose or bubbly or endearing, like, she is here in
this role. And this is sort of where I
first saw, her was in this show called Full House and granted.
I didn't watch and I was 12 years old, I watched it like,
2012 2013, it was one of the first Of years that I was
watching kdramas, and I loved her in Full House.
And this kind of informed, my opinion of her and her acting,
is that she can kind of do it all.
Rain or as I like to call him rain.
So rain plays youngjae the Celeb in this show, he was only 22
years old when he did the show he's gone on to do some other
shows like a love to kill my lovely girl.
Come back mr. Ghost doctor in 2022.
He had a cameo and under the Queen's umbrella and I think
he's got a Disney Plus show coming out.
And next year, Wayne family Scandal is the name of it right
now. What did you think of rain?
It's a show. I mean, I think he was
obviously, like, I don't know if the stunt casting is the word,
but like, he's there to be kind of play rain, you know, because
that was the peeker among the peak time of his popularity in
Korea as an idol. So, he's playing, he's playing
kind of the spoiled celebrity Idol guy who also acts and that
kind of thing. So he was just playing trying to
play himself. I don't think the acting was
very great but you know, it was and he was so young so I don't.
Know how much actor he done before that, but yeah, it was
there. So he had played on her.
He had been in only one other show before this song.
Do, let's go to school from 2003.
Where get this, he plays a gigolo who's a father of a
seven-year-old, who's sick? And so, he's sort of living
below the poverty line. Just so that he can pay the
hospital bills for his seven-year-old.
It's, I don't know. I don't know if anyone has seen
the show, if you have seen range, you watch this?
No, no. I've never seen this show, but
if you have, please, please reach out and let me know your
thoughts on it cuz I'm not. I'm really not about to fit in
this 2003. Sang-doo.
Let's go to school, show with rain and his very first acting
cred, but it seems like a heavy-handed role to play.
I'm curious how he was the dad of a seven-year-old at age like
20. And well, he was plenty.
I think the characters like 27 was supposed to be, 27 years
old, so he had the kid when He was about 20.
I anyway, that's like a totally different shows, but, you know,
tangent, but rain as youngjae, I will say, I still love rain.
I still love rain in this role. I still live Rana Z youngjae.
There's something really boyish about his character and about
his portrayal that really appeals.
Even after 20 years like this show is about 19, 20 years old.
And even no, it's not. Not the best acting whatsoever.
I do feel like there's a vulnerability to the character
that he brings out in certain parts and that was almost
mesmerizing to see those parts where he's lets down his guard
and be is is a little more vulnerable and open.
They're yelling basically the whole show, both of them, but I
thought for him to like, similar to Hung, oh gosh.
Thank you, seonguk. I was like, what's her name?
Yes. Like he portrayed a little bit
of, like something that seemed more endearing as well.
Surprisingly like it would kind of catch me off guard because
I'm just as like this character so annoying.
But then, when the script was trying to make it seem like he
had these like you said vulnerabilities and was some
kind of endearing like what? Because sometimes like, why does
she like him or why did she ever you know?
One interact with him. It sometimes it made sense.
So, he definitely had moments. Hmm.
What are your thoughts in? General, on the show?
Did you like it? Did you hate it?
Was it watchable after 20 years? Let me know.
It's definitely dated. I think in that you're never
like, oh, this is happening right now in real in
present-day. Yeah, it's definitely.
It's watchable and I love rain just separately.
So I really liked, you know, Him and song, hye-kyo.
So, like you said, a stoic actress, just like classic
Beauty, and they made her really kind of goofy and cute.
So, I think is really fun to watch.
Now, did you have any trouble getting through the episodes at
all? Yeah, it's he said only,
however, many episodes was like, that's too many Chinese episode
16 episodes is too many. Yeah, I would agree with that.
Personally, I think if this show was made today It would be 12
episodes 8 episodes Max. I don't think that it's It needs
to be sorry, I don't know why that really got me that made me
laugh. Okay, no, I think that it's not
warranted. The 16 episode count, what I
mean by it's only 16 episodes is that for me?
I blasted through these episodes.
It was very easy for me to re-watch the show and it felt
like it was giving me the same high as I did.
When I first watched it, the excitement that I felt Watching
this show was really all-time high something that is very
different from my experience, watching some of these other
kdramas that I've returned to and watch for the podcast where
it was really tough to get through airs.
It was really tough to get through your beautiful, but for
this one Easy Money, easy. Yeah.
This one, I think held up better than those then I hers and I,
yeah, I think it does hold up a little better than airs or even
your beautiful. There's some Urkel quality about
Full House and the tropes that employees, like the cohabitation
Trope, and The Contract Marriage Trope.
Are you kidding? Of course, these are still
around. They're still, you know, people
still love these tropes, so I don't feel like, if you come
into this thinking, this is going to be wildly different.
No, in fact, this is kind of where those Trends started,
right was Full House. And this, cohabitation this
couple, this contract marriage was like the blueprint for other
kdramas to Hello. So I really think that it's
foundational. It's important.
It did extremely well in, in ratings.
And in popularity, it was a huge export.
People love this show. And I felt that even when I was
first watching, it was like, this looks even though it's
freaking dated, everybody looks really mid-2000s and of death in
a shocking way in a shocking way.
You're like, oh my God, the Fashion everything that the
second female lead is wearing is some level of atrocious.
I'm telling you, it is painfully 2004, but at the same time I
feel like it's timeless. I will say, I cover the show a
little bit winter Sonata and one of my podcast episodes which was
considered the first drama to really start Hall you.
And this one too is one of them, but that one was the plot was
absurd, like absolutely absurd because he employed all these
tropes of like Amnesia. And yeah, that and and I like it
because, you know, course cohabitation.
And it was kind of insufferable to watch for me now in present
day, but Full House using those tropes and I was getting a
little nervous. Actually, it was like, oh gosh,
yeah. Barrage and living together, but
it actually worked. It just worked.
I think a much better. Yeah.
Whether it's because it had some good source material with the
cartoon. A lot of people have said that
the show is better than the cartoon.
I don't know how true that is, because I've never gotten my
hands on the Full House cartoon, but I kind of feel like there's
something to that statement because it is really watchable
it is this couple is really fun. Yeah, you know, they're annoying
to each other they're annoying sometimes to even watch but
there's some magic. I don't know what they were
eating on the site like I don't know what it is.
You're rooting for them to your. Yeah it worked out.
Yeah you hope it works out. You hope they make it, you hope
they get over themselves, you hope that they forget the love
of God communicate. So this is not rains first role
and this is not something that kills for a stroll but it just
did a lot for the tropes. It did a lot for both of them
career-wise because it was so popular.
What are some things that sort of made you think?
Oh my God, this is 2004 because I don't yeah.
Everything know the clothes the clothes and the hair, the side
ponies, a little Brave. How dare you her like no I'm not
saying it's a bad thing and The actually worked in retail during
this time and one of my I'm really not fashionable at all.
So I could relate to the character but my friend who is
way more fashionable was like, You Gotta Wear Kelly Green, that
is the color and I was like, what the hell is Kelly Green?
I don't even know what it was and she's like, no, that's the
popular color. And I had all this, like,
American Apparel, kelly, green stuff and I watching this I was
like in shock because she wears Kelly Green, like every other
scene like she wears so much, Kelly Green does and also those
weird little ruffle kind Dove ruffle skirt.
Yes, Hank tops. The multi-layer tank top under
the, I like everything was like really killing me.
The like, Hangul kind of hats like newsies hat.
Oh my God, the kitten heels, the kitten heels.
Yes, she was rocking every look, that was in.
So, yeah, is definitely the clothes.
I was surprised at the outfits that they put on the second.
Female lead had won her character because they were
pretty risqué to me. Did you feel the same way?
Yeah a lot of Skin showing I was kind of surprising like push-up
bra to. Yeah like thing and I was like
is this Allah same thing? I was like why do I feel like
kdramas now and even in the last 10 years or so are extremely
conservative when it comes to dressing their leads right?
Right. Because this same thought right?
Because she's out here with like exposed bra straps and like
freely. The bra straps, but just out and
showing her arms. I was, I saw cleavage and I was
like, there is a lot I'm seeing, like, her the side of her
stomach and stuff. I feel like I saw side boob, I
was like, she's not dressing like terribly.
It's just very Runway Fashion from 2004, and for some reason
they don't afford that sort of risky look too.
Yeah, leads nowadays or even second leads.
Now, it has exact same observation and I don't know why
that is either. Okay, just thing to think about.
Yeah, super interesting to see that on screen, I think what
makes it really shook me was the cinematography because there was
no cinematography, everything was washed out hat that they
never heard of white balance. It was just over exposed.
Like literally all I can think of is Is just the color white
when I think of Full House. And the way that it was shot,
the landline that was in the house.
That was sort of integral to the story.
So many times was like, they're waiting for calls.
They're waiting to, you know, out.
I was like, oh, that was back. Then you're just sat around and
waited for people, or you, sat in a restaurant, waited for
someone to show up. Honestly hanok, you just sit
there for hours, you were just deal with it.
And they would Answer the phone and not know who was on the on
the line, like, they were just like, hello as if they had no
clue. Who was the cop?
Caller ID wasn't a thing in 2004.
It was but Iran had it. Exactly.
That's what, that's what I mean is that they, the phone that
they had, in the show, didn't have caller ID?
No, so they were just like hello: no clues on the other
line, the anyone, it could be anybody the Again, with the
front door. Now, we have front door cameras.
We don't just pop over to people's houses.
No, I was appalled, it was appalling.
It was rampant rampant in this show.
They just egregious. They would anybody would just
come over and they would open the door.
Like hella get like they have no idea who's at the door.
That was really throwing me this time to be alive and then I
Confused also by a cut like blunders production blenders
that were just kept in. Like what?
Like, there's that one point. You see a light?
Like a production light in a nighttime shot and I was like,
yeah, is that the light that's lighting the scene?
And then there was a shadow of the of the camera passing over.
Like, I guess lighting, but stuff like that.
The little icon or something. This is like a Wednesday
Thursday. A drama or Tuesday, Wednesday,
drama or whatever, except, like popping up.
So it's like where they just like, on a time crunch because I
mean, they just like, we don't time, I don't know that there
was even a shot where you saw a production person in the
background and I was like, you could tell was an error because
it's a like mid shot of rain from like the chest up.
And you can see the background there at the Full House and it's
just wooded and they're supposed to be of it supposed to be a
very secluded area. Eight no other houses around but
there's this random dude in the background and then he like
ducks out and I was like this is a mess in the best way possible.
Because it's, it took, it takes nothing away from exactly.
Also, why were there so many bugs in the frame?
So many bugs. Why aren't we mentioned the
words? I am really was like, oh, the
bugs the bostic's? Yeah, I was so.
Confused. Why there were so many bugs and
like, not little bugs. I'm talking like a giant fly,
moths that you see come up to the window and stuff because
they're in a very secluded area that was.
I was like I don't think I've ever seen a bug in a recent
kdrama. I don't ya I don't know what.
Yeah climate change who knows? It was it was a lot though.
There's a lot. So, I know.
So, the location of the House, the full house is a house built
specially for the series. I want to pause for a second,
and just mention that because I don't know if anyone hasn't seen
this, but full has the name of the house.
She lives in. Yes.
Okay. It's like then it's just name of
the house. We're not just weirdly.
Calling it The Full House. No, no.
I think I said in the my job the my drum.
Listen Officer says it hon. Do you and inspires fear a
script, writer lives in a house called Full House but built by
her late father. So, when we say Full House, it
could just use context clues, it's either the name of the show
or were talking about the actual house.
Okay? So full house is a house built
specially for the series and it's located in Quang, Tri Area
of Incheon near the airport and it's only a 10-minute boat ride
from some Oak Harbor. I don't know if it's actually
still there. I don't think it would be.
I doubt it. It's been 20 years.
I don't think this house that was Pacific Lee built for the
production is still there. I would be really surprised if
it was the house was made mostly of wood and cost about a hundred
about a million dollars, u.s. dollars to build.
So, glad you mentioned this because I was wondering, like,
why are they on the beach and like, what body of water and as
I had to get to Seoul so fast all the time, like they're going
from there to like like Guam moon in like five seconds like
all the time. And I'm like, how is this
happening? And then he gives her a bike and
I'm like okay man get ahead of myself but no, but there's this
house. I agree with you because there
Some, there's I think we're trained once we watch kdramas
that waterways are far from the city except for the Han River.
Yes, except for the hundred, you're right except for the Han
River. Every other body of water is far
away and this was by the end of the show, I was like, this is
not the ocean. This can't be the ocean.
This is a lake or something, but it has like, it kind of had a
wave like a current, right? I was very confused.
I was like, where are they? But The harbor so now I'm like
okay it's something. Yeah.
So it's not it still seemed
far-fetched for them to run back and forth between like downtown
Seoul and Incheon so fast. Yes, I agree with you
completely. What would you say?
Your thoughts were on the OST? I liked it, I liked it that I've
no complaints. I like the OST even to this day.
I really love this the main song that ends every episode.
I said, I just start clapping, like, I don't know, I get really
excited. It was this show and something
in the rain where I'm like, why are they why is like an English
song playing so much? It was like, that's only thing
that Drew me about it. There's language, I know there
is something really strange and not the main OST, like there's
like two main OST song. That they use throughout the
show that are not in English, but there's other OST songs and
just needle drops that. I don't know why they're in
English and their bad covers of different.
Yes. Like bad covers and honestly, it
just enhanced experience to listen to some of these.
Like there was a Dean Martin song or something, the girls
kept playing 60s like the turtles.
Like It's very, it makes you whirl around and just think what
is going on, but it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
This is not OST songs are good, like you said, yes.
Yeah, yeah. The main OST songs are good and
this is not a serious show. Like, let me get this out of the
way. Like, this is not a serious
show. This is criminally unserious,
okay? Like This is the reasons why
they get together are really bogus.
Even I I never get to it but like her best friend selling her
house bro. An idol.
Yes it will. Okay, so this is part of the
synopsis. I don't think this is
necessarily a spoiler because it's just episode 1 basically.
But if how do I put this if I don't I don't think I would be
this gullible. But if my friends, my best
friends since childhood, send me off to Shanghai and said, you
have a free trip enjoy. You're going to have so much
fun. We'll see you when you get back
and when I I get stranded in Shanghai have to borrow money
from some a-lister that I met in first class and pestered and
lied to, to get out of Shanghai, back to Korea and I get back my
house, that my father, Built deceased.
Father, late father, right? Late father built.
They sold it behind my back. I think there would be this
would be a crime drama. Yeah.
For this would not be a romance drama.
That should be a great joke, comedic drama.
I'd be like no. So those two friends would not
be my friends anymore to say the least.
I ringing my doorbell like, breaking into my house and all
this other stuff. So I I'm, I don't want my blood
pressure to go up and I because honestly, I don't know how she
stayed for. Friends with them throughout the
duration of the show. Yes, she kind of was, didn't put
up with her bullshit for a few different scenarios that happen.
But for the most part, she was on relatively good terms with
them and they swindled her out of her house.
That was her only think that she said this was the only thing I
had. Yep, the whole that whole thing
was your because it's like you've won a contest.
What contest? I, yeah.
That's you know, and she's like, okay, and she's like your shirts
first. You're sure someone's gonna meet
me there Port. They're like, yeah, it's fine.
It's fine. Just go on ahead and like they
totally played her and then she like was pissed at them but yet
still was like in they were stealing each other's lives, and
I just really couldn't wrap my head around that.
I like there's, there's no way. You guys are installing
identities and move because I would be after you, I would, you
don't want to know what I would do to those two friends and
what's sad is that like she basically had nobody else and I
guess that's what this show is. Also trying to say is That she
had no other family, no other friends, just those two friends,
and then they screwed her over and ironic name full house
because it was an empty house. Oh my God.
You're right. That's a great point.
Is that the house is called Full House that house had two people
in it at Max Maxie. I'm Max staying in it.
So like we said before Full House considered a pioneer of
the rom-com genre for kdrama and the drama was a huge success and
helped Propel the K-Wave. Korean wave, and it spawned a
spin-off. See our season, to however, you
want to look at it Full House, Take 2, which aired in 2012
with. I can't remember.
It's another set of like K drug, not kdrama K-Pop Stars.
Okay, I can look it up really fast but then also Full House
spawned a musical. Oh my God.
Yeah so it's Stars, no min-woo Oh, I know this guy.
I've seen this guy. Oh my God.
He is in the Forbidden, marriage.
That's the most recent thing. He's been in in a bunch of all
their stuff. My girlfriend is a Gumiho pasta.
Okay. Okay.
If you look at a movie like, oh, I know him he apparently was a
drummer for Rock Band. T-Rex tracks.
I don't know, track probably tracks.
Yeah. Yeah.
He's got a pretty face so that's Full House.
Take to start a him and some other folks.
So and then Hong Jong. I'm she was in, she was in, she
was pretty yes, a with Park Soldier.
Yes, I know. Yeah, so that she was the female
lead. One thing that I liked was this
quote from, so I'm going to kill where she said in an interview
in my previous work, I've only played very innocent prude
characters who are careful about their behavior and words.
However, this time hon Jian is a completely different character.
She is so bubbly and Lively that I could say, she is a bit
bizarre and freaky, thanks to this role.
I've noticed that my personality to has become more bright and
Lively. That's cool.
Which is a nice. I don't, I don't know, it's
really nice quote and again just puts in perspective.
How song hye-kyo was choosing her projects back in the day 20
years ago? And it's kind of crazy to see
how she's narrowed in and been sort of Typecast whether it's by
her design or just us. Those are the scriptures she
gets or what have you. I don't know what this is.
Like double down on like serious.
Yeah people. Yeah it's really Pleasant to
see. ER in Full House, right?
I agree. Like there's something so nice
about seeing something, like you just sort of being a bully her
like she's giggling, she's goofy, she's loud, she's messy,
all these things. It's just makes her character.
Really likable, really likeable? So what would you give the show
out of five Soldier bottles? I think I've honestly it would
kind of rated High, even though Not like it's not like
Shakespeare but it is. I'm like for you to I think it's
so lovely and really washable so much fun.
I mean honestly a lot of fun even though the plot is super
repetitive not much is happening in the grand scheme of things,
this was I feel like this was a genuinely cheap show to produce
because they're in one location, just the house basically, and a
couple other places. It's literally just them in the
house and it's great. It's really, really because it's
so character-driven. Yes, on the characters.
Yeah, they're in. Jeju, and now they're in here.
I mean in the beginning when they go to Shanghai, there's a
little bit of that but then there's not like those episodes.
Other shows were like they go to all these exotic places and now
the whole yeah you know yeah it's not like Goblin or
descendants of the Sun or Stars. You know.
Some of these other shows that in 2016 See the stuff that was
the trend was to just go out of the country and spend some money
on taking the production overseas.
That's not the case for Full House.
They went to Shanghai. Well actually they didn't like
the film in Thailand and some other places but yeah, they did
but it wasn't as elaborately. Yes.
Integral to the story. Ryan what they were doing?
Yeah. As it is in other shows, right?
Exactly. Yeah.
It's just them, just going, stir crazy in the house and fighting
and yelling, and Getting misunderstood and not
communicating and just it's very childish and maybe that's what I
like is that I'm getting the high of maybe a high school show
without the high school. It's like, it's like a WB show
like or UPN show my dating myself.
I'm just think of 2004, you know, like it gives giving
Dawson's Creek. It's giving like, yeah, you're
Veronica Mars or something, I don't know.
It's like giving these old shows of that time, at least in the
US. Like we had.
So yeah. I think it's, I think nowadays
is probably a guilty pleasure. For sure, the last thing that
I'll say before we get into spoilers is, I was posting some
tick-tocks about Full House and this came up in the comments
section. Some people were like, this is
this rain oh my God, Lorraine looks so good and then some
people started posting about rain stinky breath.
So real quick. Yeah, this is a vicious rumor
that was started by an asshole Idol.
Who is now blacklisted and canceled for talking shit online
about Rain and other celebrities.
So if you are use canceled though, no, that's not what
that's not even why you that guy was cancelled, but I'm just
saying sucks generally. Yeah, he just sucks.
So that guy who was posting about rains breath being stinky
and I don't know why this rumor still persists and people either
believe in it or they believe in it as a joke.
Either way, I don't find it. I don't find it that funny.
In fact, it was a pretty, it's not that funny.
And I will have bad breath sometimes.
Like, I don't know, you know, it's It's it was concerning when
people were commenting on it on the video in mass and I was
like, I don't, are you joking? Or are you serious that you
believe this rumor? I couldn't tell and that was a
little scary. That's why I wanted to bring it
up now is because this is rain 20 years ago before the internet
basically was the internet. Yeah.
And some of y'all are real goofy talking about rains breath.
When you're not even Like, you are not even a fought in your
mama's brain, when he was making a name for himself and putting
out music. And if you're listening right
now and genuinely think that rains breath stinks, you better
check yourself because your breath smells like stale, Hot
Cheetos and underage drinking, I swear to God.
If I if you genuinely, believe everines breath stinks in a real
palpable way. That's like off-putting to other
K-pop Idols. I don't know what to tell you.
I will also say a that's not grounds like that has nothing,
do they? Even if you're right right?
What does that mean? I don't that's not an insult,
really? I know that's what to say.
The other thing is I don't know to contextualize for people who
don't know about rain or don't follow Idol or K-pop.
Idols, our Kpop rain is like the stock has huge.
Yes, let's talk about the reign of it because he was a
phenomenon. Yes, he's a legend.
He was so huge and he didn't have a group to help back him
up. So it's not like, if you didn't
like, like most people like to rain, it was like, I put this
member that member to like, you just Like to bring in himself
and he was the height of like, sexy and like doing kind of
innovative things that wasn't really happening in Korea.
To that extent. He had offers do and he did do I
think Hollywood movies. I know a long time ago, he
appeared on like The Colbert Report or some, like American
thing was as before K-pop Idols routinely.
Shut up on Late Night. American talk shows.
You know, I knew who Reign was before, I knew a single other
Kpop person like years and years before I got into Kpop and it's
you have to respect, like, you don't have to like him or right
hand, right? Understand And respect that he
was like, a really groundbreaking artist, and he
did so many things, and a lot of the people you like, now, if
you're a Kpop fan were inspired by him, so you can hate him or
like, clown him for his breath, or whatever you want to do.
But he was and still is a legend, and he might not be the
best, like morally a person. I don't know.
Ideally, as far as I know, he's like, not like a scandal-ridden
person and he's a father and he's a husband, he's got his own
like life. He Has a group called Cipher, I
think, which is like a boy group.
Now, that's debuted recently, so he has a lot going on and if
this what you want to choose to pick on him for you can but like
compared to him, you're probably know, nobody just say that like
you know, I like his music but I'm not like honestly I think
the bottom line is put some more spec on his name because rain
was doing this way before your favorite Idol.
And again he's A Pioneer and I think a lot of people also don't
like rain because of his association with jyp who was a
tremendous mentor to him and sign him to jyp and stuff.
I think a lot of people also don't know.
The rain was pretty groundbreaking in that jyp and
other industry insiders were telling him to get plastic
surgery and get the double eyelid surgery and he never did.
Hmm. Yeah, I've seen them on, other
shows being like, Oh, I auditioned and didn't get into
SM Entertainment or like, I addition for all these other
companies, I don't know for sure if like, gaap gave him his break
or his chance or whatever. But I mean, they do have a
professional relationship. Everyone finds gaap a little
cringey and that's whatever but but on he he stands on his own
as well you know regardless of gaap associations.
I think. Yes by now for sure.
I agree. I agree.
Also watch him in Ninja Assassin from 2009 because A movie is
trash but I'll it was like good trash.
So, on that note, I think we're going to get into spoilers for
Full House. So, keep listening.
If you want to be spoiled or have already watched Full House.
You want to come here? All right.
We're on the other side of spoilers.
So we're going to talk about Full House and all of the plot
details. Not too many plot details
because there's not that much. But Mina, I think you had
something specific. You wanted to start off on so
hit me with it. Okay.
I want to know why her bestie AK?
Someone who defrauded her jin-hee.
Why was she never showing signs of pregnancy.
Okay, so really bothersome to me I have in my notes BFF who is
pregnant but never looks pregnant question.
Mark question mark because the whole thing of why they robbed
her Of her house and sold it under her, was because she was
pregnant, and they were a couple of bombs.
They had no money. She got cut off from her, rich
dad, and they were like, well married, yeah, they yeah, out of
wedlock and stuff. They were pregnant out of
wedlock and they needed money. They needed funds or whatever.
For the baby evidently. There was no baby because she
never appeared pregnant throughout the course of the
show. And I'm talking like it.
Was a logical how she never seen?
He was a size zero the yes. Right.
Right, but she also kept saying like the baby's coming soon, the
bees any day now. It's coming thither like
Eminence. So it's not that they kept like,
looking at her belly and be like, oh, the baby.
Like what? Baby, what, baby, where are you?
Hiding this baby? Because she was not with child.
There is no way that woman was with child.
No, and I remember thinking that too and I first watch Full House
was like, what the fuck is this? Like she's not pregnant and in
no way. Has some like Health scares were
like she gets pushed her she falls, it's like, oh no, we
gotta get the baby. Like, we gotta go to the
hospital, make sure the baby's, okay.
It's like, okay, fine. But then later there was like,
she looked exactly the same. Like there was never even a hint
of a bump or hint of anything. Nothing.
I hated it.
I hated it so much. Much.
And something else that I had a question about was rain.
Comes from an affluent, well educated family.
His father is a surgeon or a doctor in a hospital setting
well regarded and they said that rain also got into medical
school. Yeah.
And I was like, okay, wait, wait, wait, do we actually
believe that brain was a smart cookie and could?
Into medical school that character, okay?
I thought read this as more of like a nepotism thing and I
don't know how easy or difficult it is or was back then to do
that to be like I'm the like chief of whatever of this
hospital. So my son's going to med school
and the fact that it seemed like rains character didn't go to med
school and didn't become a doctor to spite his father.
So it wasn't even about like his smartness or lack thereof is not
relevant. It was just like I'm here
disappoint, my father bear. You know, it never occurred to
me about the nepotism thing. Well I don't know if that's the
thing, I don't know, but in the world of this, it could be like,
why not? You know, this lady Zara
pregnant you don't need to actually like apply to med
school. You can stuff your dad calling
calling to to attend, but I don't know.
I also feel like rains character is a little bit, had a little
more Integrity than that, I don't know, maybe a maybe for
med school. He was a little more serious and
bit up for everything else, he's pretty goofy.
But, anyway, let's talk about Episode 1 because it starts with
rain shirtless in bed which that sets the tone that sets the
tone. For the whole show is like rain
getting up and going through his routine as a celebrity and he
has no privacy and he doesn't like when people are asking
about his private life and who he's dating in the tabloids and
all this shit. Like it's established that he
wants some distance from the city and it's no surprise that
he gets this. He wants this house that's
secluded and by this Lake and you know, There's no Paparazzi
whatsoever at the house, the friends Swindle her and they
sell they send her on the trip, the flight over to Chiang Rai.
Oh my God, a comedy of errors. It's hysterical.
What did you think of this sequence?
Well, okay vomiting on raid, the Mayberry thing Just one of the
best meat cubes I've seen because it's Preposterous and
it's unrelenting everything that she's doing on the flight is
unacceptable to pretty much any standard.
Like, it doesn't matter if you're a person who likes to
dress up four flights or go in your PJs and take a fucking
teddy bear with you, everything that she's doing is just bad,
practice it on a flight. Right.
Reaching over him, asking for more food asking for this
asking, if I attended for that and then getting ill enough to
puke on him and because she is struggling.
She's yeah, shoveling food into her gullet.
And there is noticing her in-flight magazine and being
like, hey, are you this? The celebrity guys that?
Yeah. I'm on the shoulder.
Like, is this you and he's like, bro, leave me alone.
He was like, he pretends to go to sleep.
And she's like, okay, rude. And I'm like, Shut up like a
song hye-kyo, please when she's tossing, the nuts up and she
liked apples. Like, did you see that?
I caught the knife, my mouth, get you scheduled it, with her
mouth, the throwing up all over it for.
She's like, looking at his customs, declaration car, trying
to like, figure out how to do it.
And he's like, like they're take as if they're taking a test in
school, and she's copying him, and he's like, like leaning
over. It's so great.
Like, you know, how that you put on those cards, like what
address you'll be at in. Yeah, the cognac Landing in, I
thought he was like, covering it because he was like this, this
could be like a crazy psycho stalker fan of mine.
So like, I don't know where, you know, where my address in
Shanghai is going to be, so I'm covering it.
Maybe I'm just too immersed in a, that's the truth.
I so, you know, that's something that I didn't even think of that
his address might be on there. And he doesn't want her looking
at it. I think she was just, it's not
just that she's nosy. See, it's that she does.
She's literally never been on a plane before.
Never been out of the country before.
So she doesn't know how to fill up the cup of what to put on the
Customs card. But Chic Mom it's all over him
because she Taps him and she's like I don't know if you know
this was like my first time on a plane.
My first time flying. Did you know that you can
swallow to get rid of like the pressure in your ears and he's
listening to her just rolling. His eyes doesn't want anything.
To do with her and she's like, watch me swallow like this and
she likes to swallow pukes all over him.
It's hysterical and his shock just like it's like
shell-shocked. It's not even upset necessarily.
He gets more upset later when he's trying to get the vomit out
of a shirt. But oh my God, it's comedy gold.
I was recently in London a few months ago and they had this
exhibit for the how you wave the Korean wave at the Victoria and
Albert Museum in London. And one of the things they had
it was like all this kdrama stuff and they had everything
like Kpop kdrama and they had, they were just playing on a loop
at the scene of them on the plane, but it wasn't like the
whole thing because they didn't just to watch her projectile,
vomit the whole time, but it was like her like a sitting down him
sitting down and her being like are you the celebrity?
And they just kept. Yeah, I was like Full House and
need to watch that. And so, So that was great to see
you later. Oh my God.
Yeah, it's such a good scene and really the hijinks that happens
the sort of slapstick comedy is so common.
I feel like now in the lighter kdramas especially not like the
squid game. All of us are dead kingdom ones
but the glory didn't have any of this but you feel me?
No her meeting her meet Q with the second male lead when they
go to the hotel. She finally gets to the hotel,
she stiffs, the cab driver. That was brutal to watch.
I think you can possibly died of second-hand embarrassment from
watching the show because everything, she the first
episode of the show. Yeah.
So she gets in there. Obviously there's no reservation
at this nice hotel but the second male lead roles up.
Start speaking Japanese on the phone.
And when he hangs up, he looks at her because they're both
standing at the check-in counter and she starts.
Talking to him in Korean thinking, he's Japanese and
doesn't understand Korean. And she says stuff.
Le why are you looking at me? Do you think I'm pretty?
And I was like, shut up like, just shut up.
So I'm gonna kill and he ends up helping obviously, they turned
to her. The front desk girl goes.
You have no reservation and she doesn't speak Mandarin English.
Oh, yeah, I know, was she Really started.
And yeah. And then she's the front desk.
Lady switch to English and she didn't understand either, right?
So then he swoops in and saves her and he starts talking in
Korean, and I was like, oh God, this is so embarrassing and he
helps her get the reservation set up because he's speaking to
the different density in English, when he walks away,
she's just like oh my God, she puts her head on the counter and
just it was such a great moment and He walks away smiling, which
is an even greater like even greater, right?
He's, he was just entertained and handsome and cute and I was
like, oh my God. Yeah, I just love those meet
cutes. I love that bit of episode 1
because it hooks you in, right away, right away.
The first episode also had something that was really
questionable because towards the end rain brings her to this
dinner with the second female lead and the second male lead
thinking that this is huge misunderstanding.
He thinks that some guy kill is the ex-girlfriend of the yeah of
the best friend minhyuk, the second male lead and he gets
upset that that's not the case she Said this made it seem like
she was related to him so that he would give her money so she
could get the hell back to Korea because he had no funds.
And he motions to like hit her. Like he goes like this.
Like raises his hand to hit her. And I remember this distinctly
that she calls him out on it saying like, oh yeah.
Oh you're a real jerk and taunts him and goes like your hippie
hippie. Go ahead like hit me.
Yeah. And then boom, she headbutts
him. Yeah.
And he's like ah so I was like damn girl.
Like yeah, she's like Shameless. Yeah.
So to get into the more like a little bit into the more I
guess. Poignant parts of her
characters. She is an orphan her.
Her parents died in an accident when she was in Middle School.
She had to bring herself up in this giant empty house somehow
which they never fully. Explain how exactly that
happened and then heard only two friends in the world like are
jerks and so she doesn't care. Like she kind of has like, no
F's to give. She doesn't care if you're a
celebrity, she doesn't care about like you know kind of
pretense. So when he's acting like that
with her, she doesn't care. She's like, oh well go ahead and
hit me. What do you do?
Like doesn't have any could care less.
She's nothing to lose by being kind of tacky and she kind of is
like, etiquette wise a little on the tacky side because I'm super
tacky her. Yeah, yeah.
At the 30 later, I think in episode 2, they go to like this
launch party and she shows up and he's like, what are you
doing here? Because they he'd refused to
take her to the party. So she just shows up and she's
eating at the buffet and she Drew she drops like chocolate or
something on her dress. Yeah.
And he's like, she's like she was are filling up her plate to
with like every everything from the buffet table, I like eating
stuff from the buffet table, while also like trying to put on
the plate with it. It was, it's a little it's
painful. It's painful knowing why I
cringe? It's a lot of Courage for us the
viewer. Yes, but she has, I mean, you
touch on like her personality traits but I also think that she
has a lot of Pride because when she finds out that rain has
bought her house and he's living.
Now in her house, he asks, her, if she's homeless and she never
thought of it that way, that right now, she's Destitute and
homeless and he tries to give her money out of pity.
He's like, just take this money and go and live your life and
like figure out your situation and she takes this gesture so
badly. She doesn't consider herself at
all homeless and out of Pride. She rejects the money and storms
out. So it's interesting to see how
she, I mean, if I was in that situation and someone was like,
here's a Wad of money for you to just get back on your feet.
I'd be like, you know what? Thank you because I don't have a
penny to my name right now. They've cleared out my savings.
She doesn't have a home, like she really didn't think it
through and was had a bad temper about it.
If whatever you want to call it and she storms out of the house.
Yeah. But I think the fact that her
late father built the house with his own, two hands and designed
it and That's all she has of that family.
Yes that's all that's why she's like I'm not fucking leaving
like a look like but then also my thing is she doesn't report
the friends to the police know which would essentially start
the criminal process because they committed a crime.
Oh, I don't understand that either is like she has no, like
she wants to stay in the house. She's imposing upon this guy who
thinks that he bought the house fair and square.
When really it was fraud and like she doesn't remedy, try and
remedy the situation in any legal way.
I wondered about that too. I was like, is it?
Because she doesn't have like legal funds, you know, for that
or like what that would entail like.
It's not as simple as you file, a police report and it's over.
You have to like, get lawyers involved you to like go to court
all the time and she has to her a little internet writing to do
wherever she makes money your, but it's whatever she does
before this happens. So I wondered if that was and
also the loyalty to like her friends, don't look, who has
the, the guy, right, couple her, a couple friends, that that's
her childhood friend. And maybe he did in some point
in her life, like Out for her. And he/she does view him as
family. So she was gonna sell him out
even though they sold her out, literally, she was going to sell
him out. I don't know.
That's that's just the thoughts. I had about that because I was
so was like, can you sort this out a different way?
But I think yeah that that whole thing is like a debacle to me is
very baffling to see how she handled the situation.
But one thing that I think is really nice about the show is in
re watching it, I saw that rains character.
Youngjae started to like her almost immediately.
Which I thought was very, I don't know it just made me
really happy, you know, he kicks her out of the house and episode
2. Yeah.
She catches a really mean fever, high fever and he takes care of
her and he cooks her porridge and he lets her stay in the
house and all this stuff. And then when she is pissed,
after he offers her money, she goes down the street to the
local bus stop and he watches her.
He is driving out for something in his little tiny Mercedes car.
And he's watching her at the bus, stop, like annoyed, he's
like annoyed when she mouths off at him, but then he wants her to
be okay, and he's worried about her well-being and he sort of
Tricks her into coming back to the house and be signing this
weird agreement that says like oh I'm going to be your maid
live-in. Maid and I'm going to work off
like the value of the house or something like that.
It's really weird. Yeah, which he doesn't have to
do all this. Yeah, I wondered like, I kept
trying to think of reasons like their motivations for everything
that they were doing, because honestly, the first few episodes
I was just baffled. I was like, this is all
happening too fast. Like she's, she's in Shanghai.
And now she's like penniless and now she's back in Korea and now
she's on this like double date and like all that's happening,
so fast. And so, with regards to like,
why he wanted her around, like I think he liked her, like you
said, because maybe the fact that she's so, like, it doesn't
have pretension does not is not fazed by him being a celebrity
and he That's refreshing for him because everyone's always like
trying to grab his attention and impressed by him everywhere he
goes and she's not really, and that she has her own Pride
despite like he was like here, I'll throw money at this
problem. I could do to all my problems.
Maybe and that didn't do anything for her and then my
think he didn't want to be alone.
Yeah, he wanted seclusion and all that he just didn't want to
be alone alone. Hmm, yeah, exactly.
I think he really craved that. Extra person because he's been
alone for so long. He doesn't have a good
relationship with his family, he eats alone and everything.
And so her is, she's livening up his life and even in episode 2,
where he refuses to take her to the launch party.
He gives her shitty ass script, to his manager at the party and
is like, hey, like check this out and see if it's any good and
even though he doesn't say like it's this lady that's living in
my house. It's where's this is her house
and she's My live-in housemaid, he doesn't give any of that
context, but he actually is trying to look out for her and
trying to push her work forward and I was like, that's a huge
step, you know, I think it humanized him because it's
especially nowadays in kdramas when you see two balls or like,
celebrities are powerful people characters.
They're always, like, heartless, cold and horrible and youngjae
character is so humanized. He has this like whole bag is
like, sad sob story backstory this thing with his family.
His life isn't easy. I thought one of the really
well-done scenes and your, the film critic.
So you tell me, but was in episode 1, when he's going
through the Press, call or whatever.
The Press thing, like continuous lie, saying the same, like
regurgitating, the same answers to the same questions to like
various languages and like, kind of canned responses.
And his life isn't that great. Even though he is a celebrity
and what most people especially 2004, perceived of as being like
God, like or being like the luckiest man on Earth.
He wasn't that. Yeah, I love that.
Scene. I love that scene and it reminds
me of a few were privy to the breast or of a star is born with
Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper a little bit.
Okay, this is, I mean, this was a phenomenon, but because of the
internet, this made the rounds of Lady Gaga doing the kick, and
responsive it, whether there's a hon, if there's a hundred people
in a room, all it takes is one person to be driving every time
and it became so me mobile. Well, and so funny to hear these
Super Cuts that people made of her saying the same freaking
response over and over. It's real like that felt like a
very real seen. Not only see him going through
modern day. Yeah, it always relied modern
day. We have that context now that
like the smoke and mirrors of being a celebrity is a lot more
lifted. Now, compared in 2004 where,
that might have been People's First Time, realizing what it's
like to go through a press call like that, damn white.
Eight. Right exactly.
I completely agree with you that it did pull back the curtain a
little bit and inform his character and see that he's
lonely. Yeah you know, poor little rain,
pour a little rain, but don't feel too bad for him because
he's like kind of a terror, the rest of them show a little bit
of a tyrant. So I was confused about the
second female lead because help, let's talk about anyone because
I want is a freaking mess. Yeah.
Um, mess and she had feelings for minhyeok the second male
lead, so there was a love square that was happening in the show
for the bulk of it. If you're into love squares and
good on you, this is a show for you this.
So in episode 2, she is trying to assert her A feelings over.
The second male lead over Min yolk and milk is not having it.
He's like, I don't like you. I see you as a sibling, it's
not, we're not good together. I don't, you know, you don't
really like me. He's challenging her feelings.
And he says, also youngjae likes you young, she has feelings for
you and it never occurred to her in all the years that they've
been friends that she is, has friend-zoned like youngjae, I
said, And so at this big party, she like aggressively and
cruelly, confronts rain about his feelings and she's like do
you like me in a very like maliciously?
You know, and challenges him to confess on the spot and that's
when he goes He instead of actually you know, broaching the
subject with her, he takes it badly and he says, I really like
you. You and Ian and grab something
that kills character and pulls her in for a kiss.
And that's how the episode ends in this big.
Like, oh my God, with all of these other celebrities and
people in the industry and Paparazzi and media.
There he does. This huge gesture in front of
everyone and declares he likes Han jieun.
So it just spirals from there, the contract, marriage and
stuff, which I don't know why they would jump to marriage
after that. It's like, I think because,
like, in conservative societies, it's hard to justify living
together as a guy and a girl. Unless I gave more, I need like
more backstory to be explained and they didn't explain like
anything. So I was just filling in my own
life as far as what's going on, but that was my take on.
It was like, they needed to like show like a legitimate reason to
be living in this house together.
Yeah, she's my live-in. Maid.
In episode 3, she gets kidnapped basically by his estranged
family. And she meets the grandma For
the First Time, The Hominy and hungy and has no idea how to
kowtow like the big bow, and it's funny, it's really funny.
And even now I think it's funny, the grandma is not happy that
her parents are dead and that she's that she's 20.
She's only T3. And that's what she says in the
show that her character is also 23 show.
She matches the age of the character in real life and I
thought this was so refreshing. This is something we don't see
in kdramas, nowadays, this overt Korean - right, like, what is
the grandma so upset about, right?
It's that he got engaged and she doesn't, she's never met this
girl before. He's never taken her by the
house. He's never introduced her to the
family. She's Going to become part of
the family without having met them.
And that's why she's upset because in their culture that's
just frowned upon and then she comes and meets the elders.
They kidnap her, like they're like, get in the car and the
come. So, but anyway, she gets there.
She's meeting the elders and she doesn't bow deeply and
respectfully enough enough. Yeah, she does this weird
curtsy, which it's funny but it's all funny.
Furnace is. Yeah.
I know. She's super awkward and the
Grandma's not Not happy about her being an orphan.
And you're like, what gives, what does it matter that she's
an orphan. So I will speak to this a little
bit and again, I'm not Korean since this is a voice
podcasting, but my family South Asian there from Bangladesh and
in that culture was like arranged marriages and things
like that. Having a quote unquote good
match is seems like, you know, you come from a comparably good
or better than your family and families, marry each other.
Like it's your family, marry their family, so they have to
come from. Family.
Having at least how I understand it.
And this is again, my understanding I never lived in
Bangladesh. So like I don't know, I'm
talking about necessarily and this is like an old-school
thought. Anyway, I don't think this is
something that is still a thing and I think Grandma represented
definitely old school. Korean s versus whatever is
going was going on 2004 and Beyond.
But I know in my family of kind of heard here and there about
like Marrying, an orphan can be considered if you buy into this
old-school, frame of thought a bad thing because it's not like
you come from a good family, you come from, no family, have
nothing. Being so you have no like title
or lineage or this or that or I don't know.
And I also kind of struggle to understand why that's like a
quote unquote bad thing to that extent.
I kind of realized or identified more with like the whole grandma
getting upset that we don't even know this girl, you never
introduced her to us, like, how, you know who is she like, how
can we meet her now? Like this?
And we have to hear about this after you're engaged or
whatever, but, but yeah, there is possibly a school of thoughts
and again, consult a Korean person.
Because I don't know that marrying into an orphaned
person's life, I guess. She's they don't have much of a
family. The, in this show, she didn't
have like extended family, either like, Aunts Uncles or
anything. So she's just her alone.
So there's nothing to go off of. You don't know if she's like
from a good family or not. Exactly.
Yeah, I think that's exactly what the case was was that she
doesn't have people like she doesn't have people to back her
up. She doesn't have people to teach
her right from wrong and that's why I think in a lot of older
shows. Especially when kids are orphans
or when people are young people are orphans.
They're like no they're just going to be a bad influence
because they have nobody at home.
That's keeping them in check. You also have no one to reflect
back. Like what kind of person you may
be? So if I'm meeting you for the
first time and I don't have any contacts, you're not like my
father is a judge or like, my mother was a schoolteacher like
that. You kind of start to formulate
like, oh, you, you're probably maybe motherly because your
mother was a schoolteacher. So she's probably with kids and
you can formal these little background.
Sera, Sera. And if you are someone who
doesn't have parents or were you were not raised by parents.
You'd there's nothing for you to go off of to judge you.
And unfortunately that's what they want to do is like judge.
I also do know that in Korea they used to do arranged
marriage through like the 90s, all those like not uncommon.
So I think all that combined was just like showing its ugly head
at this in this episode. Yeah.
And throughout the show whenever she visits the in-laws, there's
different things that are so Korean.
It's so much Steeped in their culture that you feel.
And I still feel like this show had no idea that it was going to
be seen by anybody outside of Korea.
And that's a nice. I feel like that's a nice
feeling to see. Like the raw, this is was
intended. Not for me.
And I'm gleaning so much from it.
I'm getting so entertained by it.
I love these characters and I'm learning, right?
I'm learning about their culture, I can look things up
the same thing happens later in the show where they come back
from their honeymoon, which We will talk about the honeymoon,
but they come back and they go over to the house.
After getting a really mad call, like, they call over and the
in-laws are pissed or like, what get over here right now.
Why aren't you at the house? Why don't you come visit us and
hungy and comes over and she's wearing regular clothes.
And the grandma says, like, how is she?
Why is she here in regular clothes?
She should be wearing hum book. Which again this is part like
I'm like oh my God like this is very creepy and right, we don't
get this in recent dramas where it doesn't necessarily matter
that the newly married, couple, go to visit the parents and they
the bride is wearing hum book and they bring this traditional
dinner for them to eat and stuff like that.
That is all there. That's all culture that were not
getting any more in kdramas because they there Building
these kdramas and making them for an international audience.
Don't I don't think they do that because I can tell you in
Bangladesh. There's not as many people
walking around in like sarees and stuff.
So right right there are for sure.
But I mean like the whole like like a ceremonious like I need
to greet my grandmother-in-law with like home-cooked,
traditional dishes that proving how well I cook in traditional
outfits knowing like, showing I know how to dress like, how to
be a traditional quote unquote, good girl.
Like that's like a whole ceremony as thing and I don't
know that anyone's doing that anymore.
Right, because it's 2023. However, in 2004, I feel like
they were still on the cusp of this, right, right.
This era of like new school and the old ways and the grandma
keeps saying daughter showed that they need if she needs to
move in with them so that they can teach her things and I'm
like, what are they trying to teach on Jian and they're
talking about cooking cleaning that the family ways to societal
rules, these sort of ceremonial things that she has no idea
because Living in Full House by herself for most of her life.
And now in Korea you don't need like the emphasis on that as
much because everyone works outside of the home, right?
Both men and women people are like ordering you know, ubereats
or whatever, the Korean version isn't that coupon eat coupon
eats to their home for food. They're not like cooking a bunch
of stuff and wearing Han Buck here and there so that's why we
don't see it now I think and it's I think you're right, you
hit on something which is that this turn this Millennial kind
of show where there's still kind of got one foot in like
traditional. Well, Korean stuff.
That was more important back then and old-school style
thinking versus This Modern because like the mom does it,
rains mom or the characters mom? She's not.
Yeah, she doesn't care as much. She's just like they're just let
them be happy. It's fine.
If they don't visit us right after their honeymoon like it's
just she's took a peacemaker, she's very sweet and caring and
she'll cook anything that that hungy and likes and prefers
food-wise. But she's really Just a product
of, you know, being subservient to her mother-in-law this
grandmother character. So she's just going along with
whatever she's want, sirs complaining about but she's not,
she's not believing the right stuff.
Yeah. No, she's not into that.
Yeah, the in-laws playing go stop as well.
My God so cute. I was like, this is a dorm.
I miss this stuff seeing this. Is that she endured her.
I mean, she kind of grew up seemingly without grandparents
without elders, and she fits so well into a family and it was,
like, kind of heartbreaking when you stop to think about.
Like she didn't have this kind of familial like we're just
going to informally play go-stop or like a guest America, play
Monopoly, or whatever. It is like family game night
stuff. But she fits in so.
Well despite her like kind of tackiness her kind of unpolished
you know presentation. She's just like a super
endearing and real person and ears every herself to everyone.
Yeah. Yeah, she becomes Three Bears to
the family because when she gets up with see these, fantastic,
they're like you didn't bring any gifts to us after the
honeymoon. And she was like, well, I
prepared a gift for you guys and then she goes, I brought a song
for you guys. I prepared a song.
So she stands up and performs this children's song about the
three bears, and there's the look on their Her face when she
finishes the song. It's just seared In My Memory
because it's so funny. And they're shocked that she's
like so childish and almost like it.
She has to be joking. But she's not.
She was completely sincere. Right?
Oh God. So then they call her three
bears for the rest of the ship. Three Bears is coming over.
I called three bears and it's so great.
Yeah. Also, one other thing that I
thought was like, oh man, we don't see this in kdramas
anymore is hungy and Prix rains finger after he nearly chokes
on, like bibimbap that he would, he made fun of her for eating
bibimbap and then later he's alone in the house, she's not
obviously there to cook for him and he creates his own bibimbap
bowl and she walks in on him, stuffing his face with this
bowl. He starts choking on it so
indigestion, right? This was a thing like this is an
old wives tale, right? Where are like, maybe it's
related to to like Eastern medicine.
Yeah, exactly. Where if you have indigestion or
stomach issues, you prick your thumb and it just solves the
issue. So I don't.
Yeah, I mean, that God, right? Exactly, so when I saw that, I
was like, holy shit. When was the last time I saw
someone prick, somebody's finger in a kdrama with, for getting
rid of stomach issues like that, was that Kind of stuff that I
was very excited to see, again, everything she did.
And again, I am an over-thinker. So, I was just overthinking all
the stuff but, like the singing, the three bears and using these
kind of old remedies old wives tales type remedies.
I think it's just everything. She remembered her parents doing
in the short time, they were with her is what she just kept
like modeling. So she's like, I know this
nursery rhyme, they sing to my parents and then they
unfortunately passed away by the time I reached like adolescence
and I can do these like really old school remedies.
But But because that's all that she had time to witness them
doing for her. And and so she takes the care
and whatever she had from her family for the short time that
they were there and and kind of like puts it back out in the
world, every she goes like, yeah, hon.
Jian is such a cute. So I took cute character.
Truly episode were jumping back to episode 3 because we were
jumping around with like the Korean this stuff.
But in episode 3, she tries to run away from the wedding which
I found really. Kind of funny like The Runaway
Bride thing, because she fights with him, and it's like, I'm not
getting married to you. Why am I doing this?
And she goes over to her. Swindler friends is Jump of a
house to get away and they trick her into going to the wedding
venue which humbly. I was like, wow, she's really
stupid and gullible but I love to see the wedding scene because
his dad is really sweet to her. And he tells her that she looks
beautiful and that, you know, his boy is short-tempered, but
he's a good kid. Please take care of him and he
walks her down the aisle since she literally has no family and
I found that. So just emotional.
And even though the show is unserious, like we said before
this moment was really nice. Okay, but that wedding dress,
though, ugliest wedding dress. I have ever seen the back of it
looked nice because it had the long back, the long train and
stuff and then you look at the front and I'm like, what is
going on? O.o girl like 2004 I was like, I
don't know what is happening. Like it was short and there was
a lot of like loose lace or something.
Yeah, not a little remedy things.
Yeah, I don't even know. 80s in the front.
Yeah, I don't think in the back. I was like, girl they did you
dirty with this wedding? Because she did pick, it was all
just sort of arranged for her but then you get the honeymoon
scene. Yeah I frickin love honeymoon.
It is so. So the Thailand honeymoon so he
says they should work out their fight, they fight.
Oh, they're always fighting and obviously they're not sharing a
bed and so She's like, where am I going to sleep?
And he says that she's gonna sleep outside and island in the
summer and she's like, I'm not sleeping outside.
So they have a little fight and she says, they that they should
work out there fight like grown-ups and he starts like,
unbuttoning his shirt and insinuate insinuates that he
wants her. And she gets totally smooth
spooked and she like Falls overboard at some point like he
has to say we're good. She can't Swim.
I'm like this is never ending. It's called someone likes comedy
set piece after another of course he saves her life and it
looks like she's drowning in a cup of water, though.
Like the water level is not very deep.
Well, there's two scenes of fighting over the bed because in
the like yacht or whatever and then also the yes, guest houses
and then the get right? And then in the actual house
that Yeah, they're staying at a bun.
I like this moment to is when after he saves her, he feels her
forehead to gauge if you see if she's got a fever because she
was sick before. So he knows that she's prone to
these high fevers or whatever and she just got completely
submerged. So I like it.
He's caring for her in like his own way.
Yeah, I also like the fight over the bed when the actual bed in
there that it's that one is that was so funny, all-time all-time.
Yeah, yeah, there's Rolling around like yanking covers and
like, you know, like trying to like, hog the bed.
Yeah. Because he says seductive
seductively that they can share the bed and she's like no goes
outside and she calls his, she gets mad and comes back inside,
calls. His bluff isn't how much she
knows like the first bug experience of the show.
Yes. There was like bugs outside in
Thailand in the summer and she comes back and she's like I'm
not sleeping outside. So she tasted like, rips off.
Her little tiny sweat shirt that she was wearing and she gets in
the bed with him and she's like, haha, I'm not that easy to like,
you know. Yeah, he starts.
Then he gets mad and rips off their shirt, which I'm like,
here we go, shirtless rain again.
Yay! Yay.
And he takes off his. I'm sorry.
He takes up the most space on the bed.
Yeah. And then he tries to like me,
they're like size difference is so comfortable to.
He's tiny and very tricky. He's like bus and he's like
quite tall and it's just so comic comic all the watch them
fighting and on the bed. Right?
It's great. I really like, it's not like
weirdly sexual or suggestive is. No, it's not.
Yeah. It's like like, like our youth,
your brother over like space on the bench.
Exactly. That's exactly the dynamic that
they have. Even though it turns romantic
that the early episodes especially feel like they're
just fighting siblings. Yeah.
Or cousins or something more. Cousins or something.
It's Yak, yeah, it's just comedic tension, not sexual
tension. Even though rain is shirtless
and she's got a tank top on that.
I don't feel like anything lead because especially if you're in
2004, living in Korea and you love rain, or you at least are
aware of how famous and popular. He is, and he's like out here
getting shirtless, but then they're playing off this like
Laurel and Hardy comedy thing like, during during all this, I
think that was like really that was the part where I was like
they're they're both acting pretty well here like in those,
yeah. Mhm!
He teaches her how to ride a bike.
Oh my God. Which I just there's something
about this. That really just scratches in
it. It's funny when they're in
Thailand because he's like why can't you get it?
You're so dumb. Like, why can't you ride a bike?
But then she starts wailing, like a kid when she falls off
the bike and he goes, stop crying.
I'll buy you ice cream and she's like, do you think I'm a child?
To just, you can just placate me with ice cream cut to.
She's happy as a clam eating her ice cream and they have this
nice day out. On the town, where she's riding
behind him on the bike. He's obviously riding the bike
and they fall asleep on the Park Bench.
Overlooking the ocean Sunset and I'm just like, this is it right
here? Like, if you weren't invested
before this, you you Should be invested by episode 3 with like
then because it's not like enemies.
Two lovers where they're just being like hateful to each other
in a way that's so cynical. They are like obnoxious to each
other and they're like bickering the whole time, but it's not.
So like, I don't know. For me, I sort of don't like the
lovers are enemies to lovers kinds of plots because it's, so
it's just tired. And even in this show, I think
there were moments where they got tired how much they were
bickering until they were. But for these the First episodes
kind of nice and they don't and it's also not like a Hi.
I'm pining for you secretly and you don't know it.
And now we're like, you know like little some one of them is
looking longingly at the other is just like just a really good
like it's genuine comfortable. Yeah they're getting more
comfortable with each other and they're like genuinely like
getting to know each other and like each other at the same pace
which is kind of nice to watch. Yeah yeah.
So from then on it just becomes basically record skip of a show
because it'll be fight after fight after huge fight.
He comes. I'm late, doesn't tell her he
loses his wedding ring and she gets upset over and over again.
And it's a just them making up with each other.
It's the cycle, you know, fight the makeup, and then they fight
and make up over and over again. Did you have certain moments
that you really liked throughout the rest of their sort of like
relationship where they get divorced?
Look at her? But of course a glow up.
We need to what we talked. That later oh yes.
Yes we will glow up. Um but I have in my notes for
young day who is played by rain, I wrote never not shouting an
actor but has very little to do for some reason at an editing
meeting today. Wrote squatting at her house.
Essentially, he's a millionaire, you can literally live anywhere
else. So a necessary.
So that was like some of my hot takes where I was just getting
pissed situation. So so let's talk about each each
note. So the first one is Were not
yelling. Yeah, rain.
I mean I've Seen Rain and other things, obviously he can remote
in different ways and not just holler the whole time.
He is literally blowing out the mic.
Every time he's yelling and the freaking Echo.
That's in the house. Yeah.
Unbelievable. How much he's yelling in the
show insults, like like really Petty, but like so repetitive
just honestly gets annoying where he's like calling her his
little rice cooker. The me like kicking the pie.
Yes, yes, like the chicken, the chicken or whatever.
Like I don't know. Like she was getting so mad and
I was like, on her side because I was like, this is annoying.
She's like your brain doesn't work your brain.
Like he is going to be calling her stupid.
But like he kept saying, like something like you're messed up
in the head. I like he kept saying like that
and I was like this is so Tiresome right?
Which is why I say it just becomes this repetitive thing
over and over again and it just depends on the strength of the
individual like thing that they're fighting about.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
I need to go back though it's and I don't know if this is the
right time to get to hey Lon because this is the right time
to get better. So let's talk about guys bitch.
You're so she is the second second female lead.
She is this prissy spoiled SS. And when she doesn't get
attention, she is liable to just put herself in the hospital with
some bogus psychosomatic illness.
Yes, yes, she's physically making herself ill and its
really annoying. That at first, she had these on,
she could not detach herself from her feelings toward Min
yolk and then lo and behold, he rejects her repeatedly and then
she's all of a sudden like I like, you and Jay.
Yeah, and I guess that's like the appearance of thicker
afraid, her name in the show, her character, like, suddenly
makes her piston-like pimp competitive.
And, like, I need young day to, yes, like me again.
And then she's like, upset, like both cases, shoes, weirdly
obsessed. She's really fixing.
I'm in hyuk that she's really obsessed with youngjae and I
need like more backstory on this because like nothing they were
saying, made sense. It's like, he's, like, I need
rain is like, I needed to protect her and I used to buy
her ice cream. And I'm like, what?
Like they're talking. He's like, this is my first love
but it's like Like stories from the second grade.
It's not like junior high or High School were like a lot more
like romantically feeling to be happening.
So right. I was like I don't Justice.
I don't get this. Like remember that time that you
bought me ice cream after I got pushed to the ground by that kid
in third grade. And I'm like, flirt grade.
How do you live 25 years old? Why do you talk about third
great for? It wasn't weird because it was,
there's nothing. There's no stories from like it.
I think an American stories, you hear like it sixth grade summer
camp or like Junior High dance or like high school whatever.
They're talking about literally Elementary School way, way way
before puberty and and not to say those that's on a valuable
time in people's lives but this like hold on each other that
they have is so weird right based on nothing, the childhood
and then he promised her to be with her somewhere to always be
there for her because she used to get scared as a child
sometime. Yeah.
And he's like well, I'll protect you and it almost seemed like
she was a substitute for his sister who passed away his
little sister passed away from. Yeah.
I'm assuming cancer because they mentioned she liked his new
hair. And yeah, ill and he that's also
why he's like a kind of in a fight with her dad.
I think his own dad. I think because his dad was a
doctor but couldn't see her. See ya Grudge there and so, as
since he couldn't save his sister, he's trying to save Halo
on and that's why he's stuck on her.
But that was also like a weak sauce kind of story to me.
Yes, yeah, that long when you have more like story, right?
Better, reminisce about, right? And then same thing with minhyuk
where he was, he was seemed like he was close with many have, but
then, at the same time, it's like, I don't know.
When men, whose birthday is and I'm like, what the fuck?
What are you talking about? You don't know what menu, looks
like a 30 year old man. How do you not know since
childhood, if you've been friends minhyeok?
Okay what has been hectic? Because he's like media Mogul,
he's in the screen. Publishing, wait, one thing at a
time. It's not because I'm not done
with him on because I'm sorry I I'm not done with this girl.
So hey one she just I mean at one point I think in episode 5
she's having this pity party and it's in this case.
She goes to like a bar or something, she's drinking her
feelings and youngjae goes over to the console her and be with
her. And just sort of listen to her
issues because he's the sure The Crying Shoulder always.
For her. And he and I mean, jung-jae ends
up standing up, don't kill his character but that's a separate
issue. And one says, I feel like dying
Because our second male lead minhyuk said that she doesn't
love him. She just wants to possess him.
And I was like minhyeok Bravo because she if I mean the truth
hurts. Yeah it's not it's absolutely
true that her love was all about infatuation and possession and
that's why when suddenly youngjae was unavailable to her
because he got married. She was like, oh, she's been
taken from me? Yeah, she was entitled to him.
It's like her. But yeah, exactly.
Yeah. Super toxic.
Super rude. So I don't like him.
One seemed like she liked him in heck.
I don't know if this I was reading too much into this, but
I still like minhyeok is like a status thing to like she didn't
really even know him that well and was look at this like Dapper
dashing like I speak three languages and I have like you
know, the CEO all these companies or whatever he's doing
and she just wanted like the idea of him and that's maybe why
he was also kind of like no bro. Like it's not happening.
Yeah. She's like Cloud chasing.
Yeah. And then I she works in fashion
has like zero clients other than than Reigns.
I was like, what up, what a burn.
Wow, what an observation? Yeah.
Absolutely. She had no other celebrity
clients except for youngjae and every time every single time
that we see her working, she's just fiddling with the clothes
on the rack. Like, what the hell was she even
doing? What she just looking at the
clothes, every time you see her at work, which is often they
reuse this set a lot? Yeah, she's just looking at
clothes, just browsing the racks.
And then if someone walks up and is like, hey one, she's like,
oh, hey, what are you doing here?
Yeah, she also looks to them like, all right, there, youngjae
youngjae. Okay, and like, who else comes
here? Like I don't understand.
Yeah. And then does she own this shop?
Or is she an amazing stylist, a designer.
But I think she's a style like the car designer.
Like that's her story and her designs, but I was like, I don't
know, I don't know, like that one sad rack and not much else.
I need a couple of Because they show a few other rocks, but not
that much, because not like this popping League or, yeah, I don't
know what it is. Yeah, she lost a lot of points
for me when she had the psychosomatic illness, and then
she starts in on ji Ahn, sung-ki kills character, and she
insinuates that she's out of his League.
Yeah. But then she hides the wedding
ring, don't forget that part. Yeah.
Oh God. I'm so I said that wrong.
She insinuates that he's out of her League.
Yes. Yes.
And that they've been friends a long time.
That's not about to change because he's married now and she
full-on steals the wedding ring that he leaves behind at her
place of business and huge huge. Like I don't think she could
come back from that. But yeah, well I I thought this
for both ginni and Dong-wook Who are the Mary like unmarried
common-law married like about to have a non-existent baby people.
Yes, it could. Hey, I want that.
They are all three of them are so crazy.
Crazy lie. Brazen like you're going to
steal your best friend's house and sell it to someone from cash
like Fast Cash and you're like, unapologetically showing up
every five seconds, that's those two.
And then, hey, one trying to, like come at this, married
woman, it doesn't matter how, or what, circumstances under, which
they're married or like, what you think about whether or not
she deserves him. Like it was just Brazen and
that. Yeah, see of these people.
Killing me. Yes, I agree completely but we
got some good moments because of these people.
And here's two of my favorite ones.
So for the two best friends, who should be shot, they get into a
huge fight with rain because they show up at the house
looking for home girl, and she's not in, so they just stay until
she comes and he's like, okay, do what you do as you please and
goes upstairs, leaves them to their own devices on the first
floor and they start eating up. The pantry like she's chopping
up fruit as if it's her own house and he's trying on rains
close. Yeah, they're opening rooms
opening closets. Yes.
It's going through. Its, it's Bedlam.
So he catches them downstairs, doing all this nonsense in there
try. He's got his reins clothes on
and my God race. She's Like Rain celebrity
clothes are a whole atrocious, the best in the tight teeth and
stuff. I don't know.
Anyway, so the he I think rain insults them.
He's like, what are you doing? Starts yelling at them.
Rightfully, so and he calls them beggar.
What kind of Beggars are you guys?
And the bitch starts throwing hands and was like, how dare you
talk to my hug? Dear, you like, touch my husband
and stuff like that. And starts hitting up on rain
and hit, like she comes home home girl song, hye-kyo.
Gets home at that, exact moment and the utter look of joy and
relief on rains face when he pops up and sees her there and
smile. It's It's the smile that lights
up his face. I love that moment.
I made a tick tock video about because I loved it so much.
And she takes his side. She's like, why won't you get
your hands off? My husband and walks up and gets
in their faces. And what does she say?
I think the pregnant lady tries to block her husband from so
many kills character comes in, pretty, odd, and she goes, are
you the pregnant friends? Like, are you take?
I can't believe. Taking your husband's side and
she's like, yeah. So what and they cut terrains
face and rains like oh my God, she's like taking my job.
I right. It's like such a cute moment.
He's like, ordering her around the whole time.
Be like, hugging me? This cook me that and clean this
to clean that. And it's kind of, really
annoying at that point. But then this is like her domain
finally, where she has the upper hand and she has the power.
These are her friends, she can get overly friendly and familiar
with them because they are her literal friends and he's like,
I'm just try not to hit a pregnant lady.
You know. Like he's like right right.
But it was I really loved that moment to because she gets a
chance to like be in her own like in that moment and stand up
for him and her and likes kind of solidify their this like
weird relationship that they're building even though they're
calling you like husband-wife. That's not their relationship.
You know obviously. But yeah.
How dare you touch my husband? Like I just appreciate that.
I never took care about marriage until now like the like the like
that is sanctity of marriage until now until now Right.
Yeah. How dare you touch her husband
Todd? Are you get your fucking hands
off of me? And then she scratches his face
to like he has a little a little cut in space teaches.
Did you cut that? You cut this hell, you Stars
face or something like that. Like she says, how dare you
touch his face? Yeah, it's great.
And then she puts ointment on his little, on the little cut on
his face and he loves it. He's like, right now, I'm right
here. Likely And that's not.
What's up bickering? And it was a full house.
My favorite room was their bathroom.
Oh yeah. Cause that's where they're
always like having these like moments of for they usually
don't fight in the bathroom or if they do it's like very Petty
like like I like you but I hate you kind of fighting the there's
like this intimacy there that they there's no other way for
them to express their feelings more than the bathroom because
it's like, oh I don't know if they necessarily literally do
this. But like let me hand you this
tube of toothpaste or like whatever.
Like this is your child is my towel.
That kind of stuff. So I really liked their moments
in the bathroom, which was it will be early pivotal place,
right? Yeah.
And the kitchen to like the kitchen, the dining table, I
guess. Yeah.
Where the two big places? Because obviously, when she
whenever she threatens to move out, or she believes for the
night or she's out or something, he will look at her toothbrush
and he's like, oh, I miss her, like he.
Yeah, the bathroom is a good place and so is the dining room
table. I love the moment with with what
after he realizes that his ring is missing and he confesses that
he lost his wedding ring to her. She, he feels extremely guilty
and even though he's sort of like yelling still and he's
like, don't get on my case. Like if I forgave you for losing
that recorder, that I bought you for your birthday, you can
forgive me for doing this. This thing to, for losing my
wedding ring, and I'll buy another one.
Don't worry, it's coming, it's on the way.
She draws on a wedding ring on his little hands.
Oh my God. I was like mad at myself for
liking that so much. I was like, they got me, they
got so good. They got me, I love that scene.
It's so cheesy, but I love it and the way she backs into it,
she's like, you know, I found the ring today, I just found it
today and he's like, oh my God, where was it?
And she goes, give me your hand and she starts drawing on the
Ring and he's like, oh like what are you doing?
It's so good. It's so childish.
And yes, the way they like go about it and it's sort of
refreshing because sometimes what happens is is you just
heard he ducked event. Yeah, it's yeah, it's not that
but it's still so good to not have that for once.
I know it's almost I don't know, this is a very rated PG even if
that rated G romance and I'm Eating it up, it's so adorable.
And their moments are really pure when they're good, it's
good. And when it's bad, it's really
annoying. But you know they're just a
couple of kids. I kept saying that in my head
when I was watching was there just a couple of kids like
they're they don't know what they're doing.
They're in the early 20s they don't give it.
They don't know how to love somebody.
They don't know how to express their feelings.
And that's the major thing about the show is that if you even if
If you're getting frustrated that they can't just talk to
each other, they have to have their own like immature,
complexes that prevent them from doing that, it's weird to that.
They both kind of understand each other when they pick up on
these signals, when he's like, for now and talk to me by
writing a note on the fridge or whichever one, you know, and
there they connected or like when someone comes home, late
and I go where you were, you waiting for me?
Are you pissed off right now? And like you know they can tell
like something up, but then like especially rains character
youngjae Doesn't know his own mind.
He's like so torn between Halen and daeun but then she's like a
lot less confused about it. And yeah, I thought that was
like, very like, like, Angry Young Man of them, you know,
like, he doesn't know. Like, he's so confused.
These he can't emotes and all this other stuff, he's
emotionally mature is generally immature, but I just liked the
way. They portray the communication,
the fact that you could tell the, she's picking up, what he's
putting down, basically. And though, he doesn't even know
what he's putting down, right? It was great, right?
I like that scene where they go visit Hawaii.
One in the hospital because he's running sprinting to her
bedside. And she, he doesn't need to say
a word. She knows just by looking at his
reaction, to the news that she's in the hospital, and seeing him
Sidle up to her at the hospital. And just so concerned over her
well-being, just completely cut up about heroin, she's like, oh,
he likes her. You know, and I'll let me wait
to go in the room. Let me just make myself scarce
because this is who he really wants.
And, no, words are said, right? Nothing is in the, this is all
acting, right? This is not, you know, dialogue,
right? And this is why it kind of what
I was doing to before we're like, they didn't need to rely
on flashy sets or a lot of different like on location
shoots to convey a bunch of like, get your emotions turned
up. It was like Kind of cerebral.
You're like in their minds. Like there there's a lot of
things were there alone sitting in that big empty house.
Having like yeah, thoughts about each other and like, you know,
they show a little bit of like, you know she's thinking of him
or he's going to her like it's more even in their face when
they fly in a pan back to their faces.
And that moment just sitting there alone in the house, you
can see it in their face. So I think both of them did a
great job and they the directors and stuff.
Did a great job of making that come through.
Yeah. Did you like the movie theater
date? That happened early on?
So here's the thing I thought, Thought it was cute because he
had to come in after the movie started left before the movie
ended, this whole hullabaloo because he's a celebrity.
But the clip the clip that was shown of what they were, what I
was like, it's been Helsing with first of all, I think it was a
trailer from for Van Helsing. Okay.
And then when the movie starts going and Rain sits down, the
music is clearly Spider-Man. Like the Sam Raimi Spider-Man.
And I was like, holy shit. That's Danny.
Elfman score from Spider-Man. So it, like threw me for a loop.
Because I could not get into the scene without thinking Tobey
Maguire's also in the room with it.
Exactly. Exactly.
Imagine. Oh my God.
Yeah. Did you have other moments that
you really liked before we kind of get to the divorce?
Yes, I really liked. I know, we're kind of tabling
minhyeok a little bit, but I just liked.
How oh, yes, no, let's talk about him.
I'm sorry. Yes, I forgot to go back to him.
Sure. Sure, I know they were like, oh,
he's a player. He said this, he said that, but
like he was soda me and maybe I'm being fooled, but genuine
with his affection for because I think it was mostly affection,
really are like he found her endearing and it was last like,
something weird or creepy. But G on that when she was like,
she's like I'll buy you dinner. I'll buy you spaghetti.
Like okay. Sure.
You like it was like, are you serious?
Like he's like having all these important fancy meetings and you
know, meetings of Shanghai and meetings and wherever and doing
Going to America and she's like, I'm gonna treat you at this.
Like all you can eat spaghetti place.
The spaghetti joint. He's like cool.
Sounds good. And he like, lets her do it.
He just like, lets her like, be who she is, and how she is,
which is such a nice change. From youngjae it constantly
berating her. Like why did you cook this like
this? And why did you do this like
this? And I need you home by this time
I hurry up because of my term. You're like yeah yeah I really
it was a bad case of like second lead syndrome like you should
have gone with him sometimes with sometimes because up for
this This is something that I don't know how the show managed
to do. Maybe it's just the power of
rain in this role, but for such a bossy, Road screaming match,
kind of male lead. I never wanted her to go with
men, yoke. I was always like, no, it has to
be rain. I know he's an emotionally
stunted and can't express himself at all and he's
constantly making the wrong decision coming home late,
standing her up. And God knows what else.
And It despite all this I'm like it's him or nobody because like
there's these are the only one who's a match for him, you know?
Like there's no one else like on the planet.
Who could be a match for youngjae's character?
Right. Because lot, but logically
minhyeok is such a great option. Oh, yeah.
What I, okay. So, this away my prom with
minhyeok was similar to like the lack of Baxter for him on which
is like, why is he following this girl to Spaghetti Factory?
Like go get another like millions of other girls that you
can hang out with? She is nice, it's so bright and
she's a bad writer. He craps her into a good writer.
He's constantly critiquing her work and making her think about
her her writing and the craft of doing a screenplay and all that
crap. So he's taking mentoring her and
she's so criminally unsophisticated and that's okay
I guess but like then just be platonic I don't know this like
trying to like win her over and like get her to see him.
The way she could tell she was seeing Hong Kong Jay.
Yeah, get it. I was like, why are you doing
that? And let's choose a body.
She seems so young compared to him, too.
Yeah. Like unworldly young immature.
All these things and he knows he's like, got really Savvy.
I know I was trying to also decide if I thought he was a
player or not even though we never really see him like dating
there was at. Okay, so there was only one
scene where he was with, hey, one in a bar and he goes that
you see that girl over there, she She basically said she wants
me and like, gets up and lie. Like goes to talk to this other
girl at the bar and leaves. Hey, one hanging, and that was
the only indication that maybe he slept around, maybe he had
multiple women or something, but when he was with Hunty and she
was completely sincere, and I love the birthday date that he
goes on with her, or he tells her, that he does have feelings
for her and that most girls like him, which I thought was a
little funky. Him to say he was like, most
girls really liked me. And he says, please like me,
too. I'm thinking I'm thinking of how
to take you away from youngjae. And he tells her out, right?
Like, I'm looking to steal you away from youngjae.
I know that he likes. Hey Juan, I know there's issues.
I know the Contract Marriage situation, like the berating
constant Brooke. She he was mistreating her
young. Yeah.
So Min hyuk was, like, you deserve better.
I could. Yeah, you could be better off
with me. It said, Surah.
So yeah, and he says likes him a lot, but I know there's
something about it that didn't sit right with me.
And there's something about rain that I was like, that's the one,
that's the one that she did. So, I don't know what it is.
It's really bizarre. It is because it's bizarre and I
wonder why she like charged him in yet because I can kind of see
how she Charmed rains character youngjae because John Jay was
used to like everyone just like falling all over themselves for
him. But many of them eniac a little
bit of that to mean you is like too cool for all that so that
when he still pursued her after a while, I was like I don't
understand why your soul I It is, is like we said before rain
and some guy kills character, they're just a couple of kids.
And maybe it's the fact that it's feels like, you know, this
is a side note but my parents got married when they were real
young, 20 years old, right? This is unheard of today, like
people get married when they're older today, just that's the
trend and they have these crazy stories of them being young and
married. And I'm like, y'all were just
stupid together and like, growing up together.
And going to college together. And it was very like their
stories felt in a real way, like the vibe of Han Jian and
youngjae together where they're just in this hot, they're
playing house with that without the sex part.
Like they're just like exact you digging around together all day
long and fighting and learning how to make up with each other.
He learns that she likes flowers.
So he gets her flowers and, you know, it's very much a learning
to be together. Her story for them and growing
together and growing together and minhyeok is a straight
meant, like a straight-up. A man, he's already done
cooking. He's don't write, he's an adult.
He's not a kid by any stretch, you know, so maybe that's right.
Sure. Yeah and it just doesn't click,
it's even more. Why I'm like, why are you so hot
stock on her because I feel like that plot line of him trying to
pursue her went a little too long because at first it made
sense. She's cute.
She's endearing. He's like got this like kind of
vibes. With her and terms like wanting
to help her improve her writing seeing potential in her, but
then he just kept doing it for like a little too long for me
was like, why are you still like hanging around sniffing around
her? Let it go.
Yeah, I think it's towards the
end of the show that we see some growth with rains character.
And I love this conversation that they have at the dinner
table in episode 11, where now we have minhyeok like trying
really hard to win over hon Jian.
And Reigns character says, now that I think about it.
I don't think I've ever bought you a decent meal.
I always stood you up Gian if you want to be with Min hyuk,
you should date him. You don't have to ask me since
the contract doesn't dictate, how you should feel our marriage
is just business but your heart isn't your heart belongs to you.
Who knew that youngjae was so woke.
So yeah. Feminist is says, he's like, you
know, I I'm post pretty shitty to you.
Yeah. And many oak is over here.
Buying you luxury meals, and taking you out and the types of
dates that you like to go on or just like window shopping and
out in the town and stuff. And he does that with you, he
gives you what you want. He's there for you and supports
why I liked minhyeok so much like she's like Like I just
don't eat Street dog bulky. And look at through like she
window shop and he's like cool. Yeah.
And he liked so much of their marriage is youngjae just being
pissed off at her for something or another and it is so
emotionally. It's such an emotional like
lightbulb moment for him when he's like, oh yeah, you're like
a person with feelings and interesting, right?
For me to order around, yeah, it's it's nice to see that
growth and for him to try and be the bigger person and say.
I have no claim to you, you know, which is huge.
As I mean, even if this was written today, I'd be like shook
about this. What I'm saying that I was kind
of joking about him being so like you know, emotionally woke
early emotionally in touch with like I mean I'm kidding but like
you know what I mean? Like he's he's got this
awareness that even in today's scripts is what you want us here
in Chase, real life, hmm. You know, communication with
people, you want to see them realize this, that, that your I
am not in charge of you, you're not in control of your feelings.
And that's not what this is. So you're entitled to your
feelings, and you're entitled to your real, whatever your real
heart is, right, right? So things spiral out of control,
there's some crazy rumors about Jian being a gold digger,
basically, and the family finds out about the contract marriage,
and this is episode 14. Like I'm skipping way ahead.
Okay, at this point had one has like, relinquished your claim
on? Jane's character because she
realizes that he has deep feelings for hundun and hygiene
was like going to go to the Venice film festival or
something with many oak and she turns right around.
She's like I can't go imagine that.
That would have been amazing. Yeah I would have had been in
today's script she would have gone and they would have been at
the Venice Film Festival, you know, they would have gone done
the overseas shoot and everything but so she comes back
home and there's this This whole misunderstanding because rains
character sees them outside at the house not at the Venice Film
Festival. He comes back to the house drunk
and sees them together and he's like oh she loves him or they're
there they have a relationship going.
Yeah I thought the most heartbreaking part of them
breaking up and pause and getting the whole divorce.
Was her breakup with the family, her in-laws 100%.
Oh my God, that was heart wrenching.
Oh my God tattoo. Yeah, go ahead.
Sorry to interrupt you, is that I am reading this one book about
Korean women's rights movements and the Gold Digger part.
And I don't remember what the word they used in Korean, but
apparently, and I'm sure more so 20 years ago, but being a gold
digger being pursued gold digger.
As bad as it is in. America seems like a hundred
times worse, maybe in Korea. And again, I'm not a creative
person. So take it with a grain of salt
and I read one book. So I'm not trying to say this is
exactly true, but it's actually like kind of Of social, I don't
want to use the word suicide but I don't know what other word to
use for its to like, you know, for that kind of thing to come
out that you're in a contract marriage with a celebrity and
being perceived as a gold digger, it's extremely damaging
to women's reputations in Korea or and again like 20 years ago
more. So so that the family thinking
that of her because I just read that when I got to that part I
was like, oh no, this is like more even more worse than maybe
we're perceiving it as westerners.
So that was like, kind of heavy Said it was, it was and she kept
trying to play it off like it doesn't matter what people think
of me, I know the truth, but it was extremely stressful and
heartbreaking for her. Especially when I mean the
conversation that she has with his dad was the worst to me,
because the dad says, I don't think it's appropriate for you
for you to call me father anymore.
And you were never really my daughter-in-law and I hope we
never see you again. These are really and after him
walking her down, the aisle and being so sweet to her and
supportive of her in the family. Even in his Stern way.
I was like, I was playing the ghost that play.
I was honestly really cut up during this part where she
loses. This father figure this this
dude who was a stand-in and the whole going over to the
grandmother's house in her. The grandmother doesn't even
want to see her she's like Game for forgiveness.
And oh my God, she's not giving it to her.
I was honestly so difficult to watch.
She was trying so hard and I think too, like for her in the
beginning when she's like it's fine to rains character youngjae
that it's fine. If they're saying that people
can talk and that also, again, I connected to her kind of like,
you know, I have no lineage, it's just, you know, I'm putting
air quotes, I have no like history.
Anyway, no reputation. Anyway, I'm already kind of seen
as like an outcast because I'm an orphan potentially, like, I
think She was like, whatever. I don't have any reputation to
go off of anyway, which is a matter of people think I'm this
like hateful, gold digger, but like you said it like wasn't
something. She could like, sustained
emotionally because it was taking its toll, especially,
when her own in-laws, saw her that way, right?
Right. And there's a, I think an
episode 14. She gets home late and rain has
been waiting for her. He's super jealous and throws.
The whole minhyuk thing back in her face, which again, I think
of a flip-flop back and forth over the same tried.
And true fights. But anyway, he starts a fight
and she's already just been through the wringer because of
all of these rumors and because of his sort of constant abuse.
And she says, do you even know what it means to protect
someone? Is buying me ice cream when I
cry protecting me. You don't even know anything.
You know, nothing. You don't know how to like,
someone don't know how to express it and you don't know
what it means to protect someone.
He's it felt like she was saying, he never fights for her,
you know, real sense. And she was finally like it got
to her by then she's like I can't deal with this anymore,
right? So if he wants to be Petty,
Batman, hockey can, but she was like, over it at that point,
she's like, yeah. Oh my God, it was brutal.
And then the frickin press conference to announce the
divorce, which he says, oh, really great line in this thing.
Or he said he's referring to her.
Everyone thinks he's referring to some other woman but he says,
she's just Terry and kind, but she's more special and precious
to me than anyone else in the world.
And he announces the divorce, but it's a divorce to protect
her because of these like her. Yes, yeah.
The media and free her because she feels, you know, he thinks
that she likes minhyuk and she's trapped in this contract
marriage and it's just sort of an effort to quell.
All of that. All that noise, which makes me
even more meaningful. Yeah.
But at the same time, it's like he loved her.
She loved him and they still couldn't work it out while they
were still married. So, It's it's a little while but
yeah, it's very emotional episode 15.
We find out he's been in a monastery for months, get the
fuck out. Fuck outta here with that shit.
Which opening me how many months did you say?
Because I couldn't figure out how long a mic what time had
passed since they're divorced. So I think it only been a few
months. I because like, her hair friend,
the friend is still supposedly pregnant.
True. True.
Okay.
So, even though the friend is not pregnant, she didn't even
make an effort to look like she was pregnant, she is still
within the nine months of pregnancy.
I think she found out, she got pregnant like the day.
It happened, the way that this pregnancy right week of week of.
Yeah. No.
But yeah, her hair was so much longer by.
Yeah. And she's like, her like glow up
that we reference little bit before the glut she look.
Crash in the house, because she can do what she wants now,
because he's not there and like yeah, yeah, yeah.
She has the pigsty is back in the house, but she's a full-time
writer. A serious screenplay doing.
I guess her screenplay is seriously.
Going to be made into a movie and they're shopping around
looking for actors and stuff. So she's Bonafide.
Like she's legitimate. She doesn't need his money.
She doesn't need his clout. She obviously doesn't need The
pettiness and him ordering her around.
She doesn't need a maid or anybody to clean up after her.
She doesn't care and the fashion glow up.
I don't know why she just looks better after the divorce.
I gosh. So they made her look.
I feel like as she is. So beautiful song Hit.
Kill is just a yes lady and I like you could find at 23.
I mean she's just you know. Yeah I'm unblemished that
there's nothing to like the cheese.
Yeah you know but the her prime so so kindergarten Like tacky
and to fit her character. Yeah.
Earlier episodes. And then we get to this episode
and she's just like, you know Herbal Essences or like so I'm
like, oh my God. Like maybe she just looks weird.
Yeah, she just looks more sophisticated.
More elegant will put together. Yeah.
Yeah, her style is just you better make up.
Yeah, her style has just metamorphic it.
Why that happens like, oh, true other than like, the
post-breakup glow up is his real identity.
It's all like I'm trying to upset, right?
Right. Right.
And then he ends up rushing back because don't woke that friend
that swindled her says that. She's sick hanji and is sick.
And he's like, what if he comes back to the house, he did.
I like how you didn't even care of those grandmas.
Like he's like she got sick all the time and he's like, okay
well hunch, he's like he's like wait what?
I gotta go. You're absolutely right because
Don't look, just like your mom. I've your grandmother's in the
hospital in the hospital and he's like, yeah, she's old, and
it happens, you know, He's like thoughts and prayers anyway, so
Rose praise. Yeah, but there is a huge
emphasis in the final Apple couple of episodes on asking the
dad, his dad for forgiveness, asking the family for
forgiveness, which I still find so odd.
This doesn't necessarily drive with me and maybe it has to do
with that culture. Bit that we're getting in mass
in this show. But the filial piety, I mean
that honestly threw me for a loop in the final couple of
episodes. We're doing is like you can stay
in this house if you apologize to your dad so that I can
basically get back in their good graces.
Yeah, I know there's some cultures were like groveling as
like a very real thing. You have to do.
I don't know if Korean culture is or was one of them or just in
their family. That's like something that was
expected, I don't know. It was weird, but there was that
big emphasis like his to make this big formal apology and
request or beg for forgiveness. Yes, on both of their behalf,
right? So like it would also kind of
absolve Jian if he did this. Hmm.
So I thought that was interesting.
What did you think of his proposal?
I don't even remember it. Oh, my God.
So he buys a ring thinking that she doesn't have her wedding
ring from their contract marriage, and he presents it to
her on the porch of the hot, what the back porch of the
house, and I thought it was really cute.
He basically says that it's true.
He doesn't know how to love her or make her happy, but that he's
willing to learn. If she'll teach him and he'll do
whatever she wants, if she wants him to sing, he'll sing it.
She wants him to dance, he'll dance, whatever she wants.
And you know he tops it off with.
Will you marry me? And she's like, uh, hmm.
Yeah, it's coming back to me now.
Yeah, action is what brought me back because I was like, kind of
half listening to him because I also was like, not sure.
Like I was like, I don't know why he's doing this, right?
Kind of like hot and colds that I was like, okay, sure he's
proposing. Uh-huh.
Reaction of like, what are you talking about?
It's been like six, not even six months, as we got divorced.
Like I don't how it what it like, think this through buddy,
like I don't know, it was, it was interesting.
I think he was being sincere but he's still, it just goes back to
his immaturity, I think tank, for me at least that he has.
Still no concept of like, how to like be a person yet.
He's still working that out friends, right?
And it's the totally wrong timing.
Yes, he does, he's just off. Yeah, he's just out of sync, a
mature reaction to, like, try and resolve an issue.
And it's like, okay, you thought, you thought this
through? But you did not think it through
correctly. So, but in the next episode, the
last episode, she rejects his proposal.
She's like, yeah, but he's like messes up her script or
something. The computer doesn't save it.
And her work is lost. And then on top of that, she's
like what did you do? No, we did not have the And plus
0, when she delivers, one of the scripts to minhyuk, she gives
him a floppy disk. Oh, right.
And I was like, oh, like my heart, my heart, the floppy
disk, that's like a sign, I know, I know.
But anyway, she and then he says that she has no Talent when she
starts. Like what did you do?
To my computer? I can't find my work.
It's all gone. And she's upset and he says,
well, you don't even have any Talent anyways, and she's Well
you know what? We're not getting married, but
I'm saying no to your proposal and it's so good.
I just love it because of course, she's gonna say no.
Like, he's not at this point. What?
What has changed right? Right, right.
Yeah, it's just sort of this guy who thinks he can resolve things
very like, neatly and tightly and he really glosses over a lot
of nuance and like, you know, other like Logistics of things
because maybe his life Was relatively easy as an as an idol
or celebrity where people just hand things to or like on a
plate and like they figure stuff out for you and you just have to
go and do whatever they said for you to do.
So he's trying to operate in this like way that makes sense
to him, but it's like not he's not quite there and also I feel
like rain rains dad in the show is very serious.
I can't imagine that man has a romantic bone in his body.
So I am sure that when he grew up, he didn't see a lot of
Really good communication between his parents.
So he's really just flying in the dark flying solo.
Just trying to figure it out and tour.
Little rain for a little rain. Can't get it together.
They have the magic land date which felt a lot like Boys Over
Flowers because he goes and stands on the ice rink for
hours, waiting for her and she shows up late.
It's very much like the Namsan Tower date from Boys Over
Flowers. Yeah, and I like to see of him
practicing, what he's going to say, yeah.
Where he's like, yeah, that's not good.
And he's like, he's really an effort.
He's trying. Yes.
He's like lacking and he's trying to achieve like maturity
and adulthood and like this, like these trying to get to her
level or like any level, that's not where he was, but it's cute
to watch him kind of fall. Shut up.
And then her still be like, bro, like what the heck?
Yeah, then they have the ice skating day 2.0.
And she finally shows up because they had an ice-skating moment
earlier in the show and he's just falling all over the place.
I want to reiterate something that I don't think there was any
stunt doubles or stunt, oh my God, this production shirt for
this because they were they were throwing themselves over a hard
surface of presumably ice for this show for television and And
it looked real and brain like he's very bright, right?
Like I imagined something like like, you know, Park Soju.
Now, trying to like fling himself, although they be like,
no, no, like can't. Yeah, sure.
You we need to have like safety stuff in place and they would
just do not seem like any that was going on at everland over
magic land on everything. Yeah, magical.
And I don't know what the hell they were thinking, both of them
were. Just honestly, I'm hesitant to
fall once ice skating. They were, I don't know how many
takes they did. They were Constantly looking
fragile upon that did not seem particularly cold.
I was like, sure. I don't think it was.
No, I don't. I think it was like a chilled
surface, not necessarily ice. Okay.
But I don't know what else to call it other than ice skating
because they were wearing ice skates.
Yeah. They were.
So, I don't know if it was just like, frozen concrete or
something that they were even worse in a way.
I feel like I don't, it was it look dangerous, like, What they
were doing. So anyway, he finally confesses,
I love you and the Zamboni driver kicks up some noise and
drowns him out. Which again very Boys Over
Flowers, which came a few years later.
I guess, you could say it's the other way around Boys Over
Flowers. It's like borrowing from full
house because Full House is 04 and Boys Over Flowers is 09.
Right? His final confession is good,
though. I was like, you know, this is a
pretty good one. He says, loving you is something
I can't stop. I love you.
I love you enough to make the universe explode or dry up.
All the waters on the earth enough to divide my soul again
and Scatter it. That's how much I love you.
Dang, damn, damn, damn genuinely good blind from somewhat of an
oaf who maybe got into medical school.
So by the way, I speak to his personality, like I think rain
is attractive but he has like whole, like sob story in real
life is that he was too ugly to be an idol until I guess, you
know, whenever he became one and rain is so cute in this show.
Oh yeah. No, he is, but the Like the
quote, unquote ugliness. Again, I don't think he actually
is ugly at all, but like, he's not, he doesn't look like some
of the idols, you know, like looking like anime at the time.
Yes, looking very yelled. He was a, he's not like that
either. So that lends itself to his
like, bumbling this in the show because if he had looked like,
just someone just like, cut with ice and glass and like, you
know, looked very perfect because he, like, let's just
say, what's a good Idol? That has like a perfect tan.
No sound from Astro, is basically a Specimen, right?
Right. If challenge new is falling all
over this concrete ice and looking pretty worse for wear.
A lot of the time and looking really stupid.
I don't think people would believe it and being a doofus in
manners and like, yeah, it's been the whole time.
It like not just like the ice scene but all of it.
Yeah, I wouldn't have worked in nearly as well without reins
kind of like not. So like you didn't get past
surgery like you said he didn't have like a quote unquote like,
you know, beauty standards at that time or whatever.
Ever a perfect face, it lends itself to his character, being
this Goofy and ultimately endearing and do very annoying
guy. Yeah, yeah.
So at the end, we have a happy ever after barbecue, with the
both of the fief of the leads. We have hail 100 and was
shocking minhyuk. Both there at the barbecue.
In fact, they carpooled. So the barbecue at the house
gather, like, I don't know what was going on and, you know,
they, I don't think they were together.
No. Okay they're just happy in their
lives like hey yeah yeah yeah. And I was like whoa, this is
throwing me a little bit because they were so like many Aqua so
great but then we have qualms with him anyway and then head
one was like a terrible bitch to her throughout Taiwan in their
lives because it later like I won, I won so fickle or
something that she very easily like when she's in something
she's in it which is as soon as she's out of it because she fell
out of love with me Huck like in one second.
And then she like She accepted their marriage is like You know
despite everything real enough. She was like done, she like
stopped obsessing over youngjae she yeah, couraging Jian.
She's like yeah you should do this.
You should do that. You should make up with him.
Yeah, ever. Yeah.
And then they just had this like report together.
I was like, I get it. I also don't get it.
Like why are you still around? Like I would be like, I would
want her gone but yeah, I would want her out.
I don't want her in my house. Yeah, she was like friendly nice
or whatever later. I'd be like.
Well yeah, don't be at my house. And also, we're going to meet up
somewhere outside the hand on mine.
House. Yeah, so yeah, that was a little
bit odd, but okay, we'll take it.
And then final shot is them writing bike together and she
has her own bicycle It was great.
Yeah. Full circle, full circle moment.
Yes about the about the comic just to know if it was like that
or not or like, I don't know, I think I don't know and I don't
think I want to read a 20 year old comic right now.
I don't think I had the bandwidth.
I don't think I had the energy necessarily summary somewhere.
Yeah, maybe true true. But anyway, we've come to the
end of my notes. I don't know if you had stuff
that you still wanted to. Mention before we get out of
here cuz this is a bit of a long one but I think it's necessary
full house is so iconic. Yeah, I don't have much else to
say in terms of my notes although I did write in my
notes, Han jihun work from home Pioneer, you're right.
Because she was working from home the whole time the whole
time. Yeah.
But I had and I still haven't bothered by like the fact that
we really don't know. Either how dire her
circumstances were when her parents died she's alone in that
house or how much maybe her friends all looks family helped
her and I wish we had more of that.
That's something I really missed even more than like Where the
other two second leads were coming from.
Uh-huh. I'm more of her like childhood
stories. Yeah, the friends and because we
don't really have a frame of reference for how much they mean
to her. We just know that they mean
something to her enough to keep them in her life.
I want to know how mad do I need to be at this guy for selling
her house up from under, you know, because I was already mad
enough. But like if you're if you were
her benefactor or your family was rather during your guys's
childhood, yeah did this to her than you.
Even scum here than I thought the right thing to do then it's
even worse. Yeah.
So anyway, I recommend this show a lot.
Yeah, I recommend it to you. If you've come this far and we
spoiled it all the things about the show for you great now, I
think you should definitely give it a watch, even though it could
be shortened, a lot of these fights just seem repetitive and
the plot is not really applied, but it's fine.
Like this really does work. I like this show.
A lot is 4 out of 5 for me. And it's criminally dated but in
a really fun way. I mean yeah it feels like a
time. Someone gets a fax.
I was shocked, but you and the flip phone, what she'd action.
One last note is that I miss flip phones, the they're coming
back the for the flourish the satisfaction of shutting, the
phone after you had a bad conversation, you got in a fight
over the Phone or he's not coming to pick you up.
Whatever the case was in the show, I was like, oh God.
I miss that. And the little charms that you
put on the phone. Oh, I missed it.
I missed it so much. Damn, I miss a flip phone and
then they could throw the phone anywhere.
They wanted the they'd have to charge it all the time.
You remember, those times you didn't have to charge your phone
every day because a text cost like 25 cents to send.
So you weren't really using it, you are calling people, you
couldn't go on the internet, it would charge you.
Make the time and now, like I have a diaper on my iPhone.
Like it's literally, it's, it's a baby.
I have to take care of it. I know you look at it wrong and
it's like, decides not to work. I'm right.
It's like, software update needed God anyway.
So, I think that on that note, we're going to get out of here.
Thank you so much Mina for dropping by, for watching this
show, and for just being game to go back to 2004 with me.
What a time. Anytime back to 2004.
Anytime uh where can we find you online in case people haven't
heard you on some of the other day Buck episodes?
I am on Instagram at Kpop bookshelf.
All one word and that's the main place.
You're going to find me. Nice.
All right, we're gonna get out of here.
That's been our show. I'm Jessica.
And this has been that they Balki Rambles podcast.