I'm Jessica and this is Tabaki Rambles, where a couple of
friends review Korean dramas and I'm back for another spooky
season episode. This is episode three of our
little Halloween special season and Rico's back.
Hey, Rico. Hey, what's up?
How you doing, Jess? I'm doing well.
How are you? I'm doing pretty well this.
This gap that we've had between the the two episodes is not very
big. It's actually, I know.
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Two weeks ago. Oh, true.
Yeah. Two weeks ago we recorded the
Ballerina episode, which is a movie on Netflix.
And what's funny is it's kind of making the rounds.
This is as I know. But that movie is making the
rounds a little bit on social media because, you know, the
villain dude. OK, so he posted like a carousel
of images, and the first images of him in the mask, in the BDSM
mask, people have been losing their shit.
They're like, wait, I know I wasn't prepared.
Like nobody told me, because obviously, like, that's spoilery
but. It's spoilery, and it's
triggering for some people as well, so you never know how
people approach that photo. Uh huh.
So And then I know. And he's shirtless, like the
whole bit. Like he he knows what to post on
his Instagram. Yeah, of course.
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Are you ready to review Moving the K Drama?
Moving. I am.
I am one thing, I will say. Is that, you know, this is a
theme of you're in your Halloween spooky season for the
show. Yeah.
I feel like this show does not fit that criteria at all.
So then what had happened was, I'll tell you so I saw the
aesthetic of it and I was like, oh, it's like really dark and
it's shot differently and it's not a typical looking cage drama
at all. Plus, I heard that it was gory.
I like violent. Right.
So I get that for sure. So that's when I was like, oh
perfect, we'll review moving and then a little bit later I was
like, this doesn't seem at. All scary spooky.
Like, no, Like thrillers pushing it.
Yeah, pushing it is thriller, but even then, even then it's
manageable. It's not like you're really
scared. Yeah, so if you're not a person.
If you're a person who does not like scary stuff, this is fine.
This is this is perfect. Not scary.
So no, no. But I will say the next episode
or the last episode in this little spooky season will
definitely be in the spooky Halloween wheelhouse.
Definitely more on brand this one.
Kind of like I was too late to change it and I actually really
wanted to watch the show anyway, so I was like, whatever, stick
with it. Yeah, yeah.
So that's how it ended up here in Spooky Season, even though
it's not really ghosts and zombies and whatever else.
Fools comb and zombies with no conscience.
A terrible Jay-Z line from Monster?
Oh man. That's because Nikki ate them up
on that track. No, no.
She definitely has the best verse.
Oh my gosh. But yeah, I've never heard such
a bad Jay-Z verse. Ever.
Wait, wait, wait. What are we talking about for
the people that don't know? So for people who don't know the
song Monster, this is the track from my Dark Twisted Fantasy
from Kanye's album and this is the song monster that is Kanye
Jay-Z. And Nicki Minaj with a little
bit of Man, I forgot his name. Oh, Rick Ross at the beginning.
So yeah, so each one has a verse.
Kanye starts it off. It's it's good.
There's some memorable lines. Jay-Z comes second and boy is it
awful. Like, it is terrible.
Like like he just starts naming like all these different like
monsters that you would see in Universal Pictures from like the
30s. And, like, it's just so
terrible. At one point, he goes, I know
what my biggest deal is, love. I don't get enough of it.
And I'm just like, this is terrible.
But thank God that Nikki comes third to save that monstrosity.
No pun intended. Yeah, Nikki's incredible.
She's lace, OK? So just context, Yeah, so sorry.
We move really, really fast. Like we just known each other so
long. We've done podcasting for so
long that we just, it'll be real quick.
So we have to slow it down. Sometimes we have to slow it
down, explain how we know something so well to each other.
Exactly. All right, Well, I'll go ahead
and read the MDL synopsis. My drama list.
It reads Kimbong Sook, Jang He Soo, and E Kung UN.
Seemingly typical high school students bear extraordinary
inherited powers. Bung Sook can fly, Hisu
possesses exceptional athleticism and rapid injury
recovery, and Kong Moon wields uncanny strength and speed.
As they conceal their gifts, their parents fight to shield
them from exploitation by others, navigating A delicate
balance between secrecy and protection.
If you didn't catch the name of it, I don't know if we said it,
but the name of the K drama is moving.
Yeah, we said it a little earlier, but yes, we.
Wanted to make sure it aired from August to September 2023.
This year was released weekly, a few episodes a week I believe,
and it is 20 episodes long. I know that's pretty long.
However, each episode is only like 40 minutes.
This is what network television used to be back in the day where
like. The West Wing is the best
example. There are 23 episodes a season.
They're all about 42 minutes long.
Oh, that's. Oh bless.
Bless. So, so that's exactly what
you're looking at. It's like you're looking at one
season of network television from back in the day.
Yeah. And it.
And I love it. I I really do.
Yeah, me too. Wasn't it great?
I love it. It was.
Each episode was like, so, yes. Yes.
There's an internal clock that I have in my head, not that I'm
keeping track, but like there's like an alarm that goes off if a
show that I'm watching that is an hour.
And I put that in quotations because of commercials and
stuff. But once it goes past a certain
time, I'm like the show's not, you know, resolving.
But that's because I'm so used to that 42 minute thing that
when a show goes over that and is like an hour, an hour 10 and
I'm just like oh this this just feels long, you know, so.
Very, very appreciative that moving.
Decided to do the 40 to 42 minute yeah episode thing.
I love it. It's good stuff.
It is adapted from the webtoon moving by Kung Fu AKA Kung Pool.
It I guess just depends on how you pronounce it.
There is no F sound in Korean, so there's that.
It's a nickname, however, so it's a what's it called?
Pen name he He also wrote the screenplay.
So he is the author of the web comic and the screenwriter.
He's written 8 movies and this is his first show.
I think the 8 movies are adaptations of his webtoon as
well. Oh, OK, different webtoons.
Nice. He is obviously a webtoon author
artist and he's regarded as a first generation webtoon artist.
Is it because, like webtoons are so new?
That's the only thing I can think of, You know, it has to do
with, I guess that when he kind of got in the game and then I
also feel like in K culture, they'd love to put things in
eras, right? So consider K pop with like
first Gen. second Gen. third Gen. and 4th Gen.
They're they just like delineating the eras like that.
Yeah, Fearless speak now, Red. Yeah.
Exactly. Exactly, exactly.
You get me? I totally get it.
So we just watched the Taylor Swift eras to our movie and we
reviewed it on Always the Critic podcast.
So that's where that's come. It's it's relevant.
Yeah. OK, So Moving was directed by
Parkin Jay. He's also directed Kingdom
Season 2, which is a zombie show on Netflix.
Really good. I think each season of it is
only 8-6 or eight episodes, and then there's two seasons total.
Freaking easy to binge that. It is such an amazing show.
I highly recommend you watch it. I don't.
I would love to recommend it to Eureka, but I know that you're
not a zombie person. It's just so excellent.
And we talked about it actually on our Sweet Home episode.
Yes, briefly I mentioned it because it's got all the things
that you kind of wanted out of Sweet Home.
And I was like, we should have watched Kingdom.
So he directed only season 2 of Kingdom and two movies and
that's it. He's pretty green.
Yeah, he is green. That's not really big resume, so
I mean same for the screenwriter, Kung Fu or Kung
Fu. The adults, the cast stacked
like in a word, this is a really high profile cast and some of
these faces you've seen before Rico, because conveniently
you've watched some of their previous work.
So we'll just go through them. We have Rio Sung Ryong plays
Jang Ju One and I have him here as the Hulk.
Yeah, the nickname he's Chicken Shop.
Yeah, he runs the chicken shop. Yeah.
And yeah, super strength Hulk type figure.
Yep. I totally agree with the cool.
So if you want to call him the Hulk later in the show, well,
that's fine. You know what I was comparing
the show to? Just so like, I in my head?
Yeah, yeah. I was comparing this kind of to
the X-Men. Oh really?
Yeah. A lot of people have been
likening the show to Heroes. Oh yeah, you know, I can see it.
I only saw one season of Heroes but like I saw clips on YouTube
of Heroes so save the cheerleaders.
But I have seen Just stop It. But I've seen every freaking
superhero movie you can think of.
That's true. Plus those shitty Disney Plus
shows. So except for one Division I
love one division. I can't shed on one division
that. Much.
No, no. One division's great.
No, no, no. It's.
And I love Loki. I haven't started season 2 yet.
What I saw we saw the first two episodes of season 2.
Anyway, Long story short, it's superheroes.
Yeah, it's superheroes. So yeah, so Sung Ryong, you
might have seen him in the 36 movies that he's done, including
Miracle and Cell number 7, Masquerade from 2012 with IB
Young UN and all About My Wife, War of the Arrows, the list goes
on. I think that was his best film
era was 2011 through 2013. That was like the best time to
me. And then he's done 11 TV shows,
including Kingdom, using both seasons of Kingdom.
So that's where he met the director and he was also in
personal taste in 2010 which is this really weird show with even
though like. So what's the plot of personal
taste? So there's this woman living,
and it's the female lead from Crash landing on you, Sonia Jin.
Got it. She is living in a traditional
Korean house and an architect, Lee Min Ho wants to, I think
either like survey the house or something like that, or use the
house as inspiration for a a new project, and I can't remember
which one it is. But he wants into the house.
She lets nobody into the house, but she's looking for a
roommate. So he decides to apply to become
her roommate and masquerade as a gay man to do it.
So she she gets this gay roommate she thinks is like
safe. And obviously he's not gay.
It's this whole thing. It's wild.
So anyway, Ryu Song Ryong was in personal taste in 2010.
I am beyond scared to revisit some of those older shows that I
watched. And see if it holds up.
I know it doesn't hold up, but anyway.
We also have Han Yoju who plays IMI Hyon.
She is our leading lady. I call her the sniper slash
tonkatsu. Mom, do you have Do you have
another nickname for her at all? Not really.
Only because like that type of character I can't really eyeball
in in like maybe Deadshot. A female Deadshot would be the
only thing that I can think of. OK.
That would be the only thing. And that's a.
Yeah, that's a comic book character.
So that's what I'm thinking in my head, because like, these are
kind of comic book characters. They're facsimiles.
Yeah, they're facsimiles. So like if if I were to put like
a, you know, something similar in this, I would probably go
with a female Deadshot. Yeah, I so I so you've seen her
because she was in W2 Worlds Apart.
Yeah, yo, that show. So we reviewed that for the
podcast. Rico was there.
He remembers it all too well. And I really appreciate that
show, even though it's not 100. Like, it's got its flaws, it's
got its issues, there's problems, but it still holds a
very special place in my heart. She's been in so many things and
they're all excellent. She chooses her projects really,
really well. Even her movies.
I love her movies. I've seen her in always from
2011 with Suji Sub. That one was so sad.
It's a melodrama. I don't want to give anything
away. I don't want to give anything
away, but watch that one. You will need tissues masquerade
as well, so you see kind of things start to intertwine.
Because Hulk Sung Reung was also in Masquerade with her.
She was in love 911 Beauty inside which they they turned
that into K drama soon after that because it was so
successful. She was in Love Lies, which I
have a Patreon review up for that movie, The pirates sequel,
The Last Royal Treasure and then recently in 20th Century Girl
which broke everyone's hearts because they just didn't see it
coming like that ending it was heartbreaking.
Also she was in Happiness, which is another zombie show.
Excellent show. Love it.
What do you think of her in this show?
So in the show, out of the, out of the adults, I I liked her.
It wasn't as captivating, I would say, as some of the other
characters, right? Like there was, there were two
characters out of the adults that I was really drawn to.
We've already spoken about one. Jean.
Jean Juan is the name of the character Hulk.
Really enjoy. We still haven't mentioned the
next one, but like her character was fine.
There was a lot of times where I kind of felt like she she was
more just kind of in a very what's the word that I'm looking
for? Just she was kind of in the back
seat a lot and there was a lot of times where you know that
she's important and there's, you know, there's an importance to
her character. But we we don't see it too
often, We don't get a lot of it. So she kind of falls in the
background Sometimes I see that. I see that it's not a flashy
role. Not flashy at all and but I like
her, her character. I think there's something really
cool and mysterious about her and super guarded as well.
That's just how the character was was written.
We have her Co star Choyan Song who plays Kim Doshik.
I just have him here as Superman.
I know. I mean, pretty much, yeah bro.
So two things. One is Hanihodu people.
Very surprised to see her as a mother because we've seen her
young and you know, childless in pretty much every one of her
roles so far. So this is a had a shift change
in her career. Yeah, and not just like a kid
Oman Gansong. Like Oman Gansong.
Just like a big ass a grown. Yeah, Like, yeah, that.
That's the big thing about it. Like, it kind of happened to me
recently when I watched this new movie.
Then she came to me. It's with Peter Dinklage, Anne
Hathaway. Anne Hathaway is a mother to a.
To a child who's about to graduate high school, and I was
like, damn, she's already there. I was like, damn, dude, like, it
doesn't feel like that. Like, she just turned 40.
But it still doesn't feel that way, you know?
Yeah, Hani Hadju is in her 30s. She's in her 30s and she's like,
you know, a 1617 year old, whatever the age of.
That of that boy. Yeah.
So yeah. Like, yeah, she does not look
like she should be. The mother.
Of And if you see her on the press tour and in some of the
photo shoots that they've done for this show, if she does not,
look, they aged her up to play this game.
They had to age her up. And even like that, Like, it's
still kind of like, hmm, she's the mom, huh.
Interesting. So it's a little strange for
people. A little jarring.
I for 1:00 AM, OK with it. I think that she can.
She's a grown woman. She knows how to fucking pick
her projects. She's very picky.
And it's worth like, this show is proof of that because I think
once you saw some stills of her, you were probably a little
hesitant to watch her in something like this.
And then once you see the finished product, you're like,
Oh my God, it was worth it to, like, age her up.
Yes, yes, yes, yes. For Toy and Sung, though, this
is a big deal that he's in this drama because he hasn't been
starring in a drama. Since 2014, the last time you
saw him was in 2016 in a special guest appearance in the show
called Dear My Friends, and he basically just goes off the grid
when he's not working. Oh, so he just disappears?
He just does like a big show. He gets paid handsomely and then
he just dips. Got it.
Which I appreciate that lifestyle a lot and.
I think it's hard for people who are just starting out watching K
dramas because they don't know who he is, especially if you
haven't gone back to like like see some of the older work.
Right, because I I mean, I grew up watching him in the K dramas
that I started out watching. I start.
I came in like early 2000 tens and he, that was his era.
Like that he was popping off. In 2010, like they're twenty
10s. Gotcha.
Oh my God. So he was in that winter the
wind blows with some Hekio, the female lead from descendants of
the sun. Oh, OK.
She was a blind heiress and he was deceiving her so that he
could get her her inheritance. It was fucking nuts.
I mean these plots, right? The plot lines are.
Fantastic plots are plotting. So he was in that he looks so
good. It's OK.
This is Love or it's OK That's Love from 2014, one of my
favorite K dramas of all time and he's in that.
He stars in that. I again, if you're if you see
him and you're like wow, I want to see more of him, there's
more. Go back in the catalogue and and
dig deep, right? Like watch these dramas because
they're good memories of Bali. AKA something happened in Bali.
I just have to say, he's not here to defend himself.
But Miguel knows what he did. He told me to.
What's up? This show, something happened in
Bali is from 2004. It's an older drama, almost 20
years old, actually. And Miguel was like, you got to
watch this drama. It's so great, blah, blah, blah.
And I was like, oh, OK, cool. So I took his advice and I
watched the show. I swear to you, I still think
about the night, the nightmares that I had watching this show
and the ending that it had. It is pure trauma.
There is, I mean, if you think that like endings from the red
sleeve and 2521 and, I don't know youth of May are traumatic,
listen what something happened to Bali.
Is Trump's all of that? It was.
I hated it. It was terrible to I hated the
show. I was livid when I because I
came back. I think we went out for like
pizza or something in Hunter's Creek here in Orlando and I walk
in and I was like, Miguel, I think you owe me an apology
because it was so bad. So I know a lot of people like
that show. But anyway, Long story short,
Cho and sung icon. Icon and he's here in this, in
this fucking show. It's amazing.
Kim Sung Kyun, another icon, he plays Jaiman.
He is the character with an intellectual disability and he
has super strength and he's super fast as well.
Yeah, he can. He can also like, leap.
Yeah, like super far. Kind of like, it's almost like
Hulk, yeah, Where he can, like, jump really far.
Or when Superman and Man of Steel is like starting to try to
fly, like, it's like these giant ass hops.
It's basically that. He has been in everything you
can think of. 34 movies including Secretly Greatly,
Hawaii and Monster Boy, The Suspect.
All of these with All Star cast. He's been in 14 TV shows,
including DP, which we covered earlier in our spooky season.
Divorce attorney Shin We KIRO Class One Grid Moon Lovers
Skylar How Rio which we've covered as well.
Not in the spooky season at the end of season four that was the
finale episode Moon Lovers. So this guy really well known
household name. Then we have Kimi Wan as Che
Yihuan. He is the PE slash homeroom
teacher, yes. Well, another icon.
Another icon. He's been in 36 movies.
Including Unlock The Beauty Inside, which is the same movie
that Han Yoju was in Cart. No Tears for the Dead, The Man
From Nowhere, which I just reviewed for the Patreon fee
because I did my annual rewatch of that movie.
Fucking love this man. These are great names that I'm
throwing out here. And then we have our kids as
well. Thankfully, there's not that
many of them because I'm already feeling like we're running long
in the tooth, but we have Koyun Jung.
As he sue, she is. I call her home girl in my
notes. She's the PE major monster baby.
I don't know what you want to call her.
Yeah, I was getting just AX23 or Wolverine Vibes, so.
You're getting Wolverine vibes just because of the the
regenerative power of being able to heal like that, that that's
the the very classic person who can heal in that way is
Wolverine and in turn the daughter X-23.
So that's what I was getting those vibes.
I see. I like it.
OK, so X-23 is Koyun Jung. You might have seen her in
Alchemy of Souls, which there's a 2 parter 2 part episode on the
feed. And then you might have seen her
in law school, school, nurse files.
He is psychrometric Rico. You've seen her in Sweet Home?
Yes, I did. I did.
I was like, wait a minute. Is that?
Wait a second from Sweet Home and I was.
Right. Yes, it was.
She's here as a student. I think she's like 27 or 28 in
real life. I mean, she's like a high school
student. It's it's it's all the dilemmas
we always face with all these high school movies where they're
having 27 year olds play. High school students like we've
seen it all the time. I know we've seen worse.
Stalker Channing. Stalker Channing.
Yeah, yeah, from Greece.
For those who one of my one of my favorite things ever is
Family Guy. No, no, not Family Guy.
American Dad, where the alien Roger is like, oh, he knew or he
knew Stocker Channing in her 40s.
Oh no, no, I'm sorry. He knew Stocker Channing in the
40s. She was 50.
Just like it's so messed up. It's a running gag with the.
Running gag and pop culture, but Grease especially cast, because
you look at that cast like there are people who are in high
school in that movie. That's a man.
That is a man who's been divorced.
Like, like, ridiculous divorced with kids.
Like get out of here with that high school student.
It is hilarious. T birds my ass.
Anyway, we also have. He Dong Ha who plays Kimbong
Sook. He is my fly boy.
I have him as my little peanut. I don't know if you had a
nickname for him. I didn't, but he yellow.
Yellow is his color, yellow is his color.
I just found him. I felt like he was Comic Relief
to me. Kind of.
Or just a light levity to like darker scenarios?
Yes, yes. He was such a breath of fresh
air. He was needed to bring a little
bit of comedy. Yeah, like, like you said to the
show. Speaking of comedy, I watched on
TikTok because TikTok knows, like, what I'm doing, what I'm
watching. It just knows, so of course they
do. It brought me this video of him
auditioning to debut as a singer on a survival show called the
Unit Idol Rebooting Project. And he was adorable.
Adorable. All of the judges who are a
list. You know, K Pop celebs were just
pushing him through because he was so endearing.
Even though he didn't have the chops, he didn't have the
skills. He was going one-on-one.
Like Rain gave him like a little tutorial on how to dance like he
was making him do that. Like body roll.
Yeah, the body roll that like. But the kid had no rhythm.
No brother couldn't do the body roll but a one-on-one thing with
rain is a huge or I'm not saying it right rain.
So he rain couldn't even do it with a straight face because he
was so cute and smiley with his little dimples.
That Rain just kept laughing. My goodness.
It was adorable, so I encourage you guys to sneak out this
little video of him. Apparently Yi Jong Ha was a
trainee under JYP, which makes a lot of sense.
However, he left the company because he lacked confidence and
could not keep up with other trainees as he felt they were
better than him. Seeing what I saw on TikTok,
that little clip, I yeah, I don't even know how he got into
JYP. You don't even know how he got
in. I don't even know how he got in
so. He was also in nevertheless from
2021. That's kind of a curse word of a
show. No, not a lot of people like
that one. I can't believe I watched him
myself. He was on Run on And rookie
historian Gujario, I got to be real honest with you, I don't
remember this man in these shows, this little boy at all.
So if you if you saw him in these shows, I would love to
see. Your hear your thoughts on him
from those small bit parts in those shows.
And lastly we have Kim do Hyun Kim to Hoon who plays E Kong
Hoon and he's like the glasses kid like the class prez.
Yes, OK Who in the very first episode is collecting
everybody's cell phones? Yeah, yes, exactly.
Exactly. That kid hall monitor.
Hall monitor. So he's in the Escape of the
Seven. From 2023, I think that's coming
out a little later this year, The LA Cafe and today's Web Two.
Again, these are largely untested younger actors paired
up with big names in the K the K cinema and K drama.
You can you can almost say it would be kind of a passing of
the baton type of scenario. Maybe, you know, working so
closely with these generational actors and actresses, you know,
trying to give the new generation kind of, you know, a
good stepping stone. I mean, you can kind of liken it
since I'm on the X-Men train days, Future Past, where you
have the old cast and the new cast, you know, kind of sharing
screen time. So something similar.
Yeah, absolutely. So we have finally gone through
this whole cast and we're here at the end of that.
Rico, what did you think of moving?
So I'll be honest, I think this is a really good show.
Oh, my God. The way you've gone the first
episode, when the first character that we're introduced
to is what's it called? Kim Bong Sook, like when that's
the first character, I was kind of like interesting that this is
the character. So I thought it would be more of
a, you know, like humorous, good-natured type of show just
by him being like the first character.
What really sold me on the show was when we start getting the
more interactions with Jung Kyu Soo that that's Koyu Jung's
character and also Rio Song Ryong's character of Jang Wu,
Jang Ju Wong So Hulk and X-23, you know, father daughter.
That was the one that sold me the most.
Also, what also sold me was the character Frank.
Oh, OK. Because like being a cleaner and
coming out and basically taking out like EX Super people like
that was like intriguing like first that's.
Very Incredibles of him, exactly.
Just like The Incredibles, yeah. What was the name of that red
haired character? It's a syndrome.
Syndrome. Yeah, he's basically syndrome.
He's except with Powers, right? Exactly.
He's not faking it like Syndrome.
But yeah, those characters like, really captured my attention
early on, which helped carry the show.
There's a couple episodes that really stand out for me that I
really enjoy and we'll get into them a little bit later.
But for the most part, I I enjoyed the action.
I enjoyed the very the very Hans Zimmer Slash Ludwig Gorensen
score. Because Oh my God, yes, there's
a moment where it sounds like it's like bom bom, so it sounds
like Hans Zimmer. It sounds a little bit like the
score from Dark Phoenix. Yes, Dark Venix, which is Ron
Zimmer. But it also sounds a little bit
like the like the score from Tenet, from Ludwig, where it's
like and I'm just. Like, that's a very bad
interpretation. Yes, it is.
But or imitation. Yeah, it's a very bad imitation.
Go listen to the real one. But yeah, you can tell it's like
heavily inspired by, like, Zimmer and Ludwig Gorenson.
I can even see a little bit of the score in Loki.
The show, yes, right. Yes, for sure.
The cinematography of it, I think it looks beautiful, I
think. And it's coherence, thank God.
So compared to last week's episode of Ballerina, right?
If it was last week, maybe. Yeah, it was.
It was. So when you come here to last
week's episode of ballerina, which like they're cutting and
editing style kind of leaves you confused, This is very clear on
how they style the action, how they choreograph everything.
You know, where characters are in relation to one another, how
tall someone is versus someone else.
The way the camera positions it, I thank you also.
It looks great. You know, there's one or two
moments where the CGI is, you know, a little shaky, but I'm
not going to fault it. It's just like one or two
moments and that's it. I.
Think that's huge coming from you, I know that is.
I think the acting is very well for each character's purpose.
Because, you know, you have the heartwarming with Kim Bunsuk.
You have like the intrigue from, you know, Hulkinex 23.
You also have like Frank in the entire like, what is what's
behind? What's that?
What's behind him, You know, who's in charge of him doing
everything that he's doing. He's chasing after these
characters. You feel sympathy.
Sympathy for a Lee JA man you know or E JA man.
Is that how you pronounce it? I.
Oh, EJ, man. Yeah, Kim Sung Kyun's character.
Yeah, you feel Hulk too, Hulk too.
And so you feel sympathy for the characters.
You start to care for them with all the machinations that are
happening behind the scenes of trying to get after these adult
super people who in turn the kids are being affected as well.
So overall, really like the show.
I I don't really have many negatives really to say about
it. I'm so glad.
I am thrilled because you know, like and you, the audience know
if you've been keeping track. Like, I feel like I've struck
out so many times suggesting K dramas to you, and we'll watch
them together and review them on the podcast and you're just
like, yeah, it was fine, or I didn't like it or whatever, and
nothing has beat signal for you. But I knew as soon as I had
heard some rumblings that this was going to be a good one, that
people were really enjoying this.
And then I was like, I think, I think we should watch this.
And then it came out that these people were superheroes.
I was like, oh, could not be more perfect for Rico to watch
this movie, this movie, this show.
Because this is your wheelhouse. Like you're an MCU person.
You're very invested in sort of this, this genre.
And what's a better way to like it would be it's K drama and
superheroes. It's like two of our favorite
things, right? Yeah, in one child, yeah.
And I really enjoyed it. I thought it was very well done.
You know what? What the big thing is because
sometimes when if you try to do something with superheroes,
you're so reliant on the CGI, you know you're trying to do
something, you know, fantastical that sometimes story gets
ignored and here story was. Not ignored?
Yes, that's what's keeping you invested in the show, is the
story, yeah. It's I thought this was a
character study. Yeah, really, really good job of
looking at each character, their motivations, how they got to the
point that we're seeing them now.
So I so we'll talk about that more, but yeah, I think it is
very well done. It's a Tour de force.
I'm hearing rumblings of people saying it's the best cage drama
of 2023. I honestly think it might be.
I think it's up there. I think it's in the
conversation. And I hope that when award
season comes around next year that it gets nominated.
It's already being, you know, thrown around.
In certain circles, it's winning some awards.
I think Ryu song Ryon, which is Hulk number one, he won a best
actor thing recently. I I'm just really thrilled that
people have have loved it and are are just rooting for it.
Moving became Disney's most watched Korean drama ever in
just a week, seven days. Nice.
That's really good. It's really great and.
I think it would be even more popular than it is had it been
on another streaming platform, let's say Netflix.
Yeah, I can. Understand.
Because it was, yeah. I think it would have been
another squid game. Oh, OK.
So you think it would have even been that popular?
100% in my mind it would have done squid game numbers and.
Because it's on Disney Plus, which is not as well established
of a streaming platform around the globe as Netflix is, doesn't
have as much cloud, doesn't have as much subscribers.
And historically the show, the K dramas that have come out on
Disney Plus have done OK, but they really haven't had this
like staying power that you know Netflix once do right.
And I know that in some countries it was split off into
a different streaming service, so like here I saw it on Hulu,
correct? So.
Which is owned by Disney, right? Owned by Disney, but other
countries it was Disney Plus that had it on their service and
not Hulu. So just that divide also could
affect the way a show can gain popularity.
Exactly. And over here, not everyone has
Hulu. I think more people might have
Disney Plus than they do Hulu here in the state.
I could be wrong, but. It feels that way, right?
It could be close. True, but overseas?
I really don't see Disney's trying to become like Netflix
overseas, especially with investing in these K dramas.
And over time, there's been a bunch.
Snowdrop was one that we reviewed.
Miguel was on that one. Soundtrack number One Big Mouth
kiss Six cents connect with Jong Han Rookie Cops Vigilante, which
is coming up with Namju Hilk, Who's in the milk serving in the
military right now. So that's a huge deal because
he's not even around to promote that, but they're going to
release it later this year. The worst of evil.
This was huge because that one brought together 2 huge stars.
One of them actually was in squid game.
That's Oh my God, his name is oh I forget.
But anyway, two huge stars and it's an action, Action K drama.
And then we have Revenge of Others.
Big bet. Lots of Disney Plus shows now
moving. I think surpasses them all.
OK that's awesome. Surpassing them all, I haven't
really got a chance to gone go through the different K dramas
that are on there so but if you're saying that it's
surpassed them. So good.
Like well and I wait. I don't even think I gave my
thoughts on the actual show moving, but I love it.
I thought it was fantastic. I don't really have a bad thing
to say about it either. And yeah, so those are my
general thoughts and the other shows I have watched Snowdrop as
you don't, as your head drops right now.
Because I don't want to get into like, why that show sucks, but
it just does. You can listen back to the
episode on Snowdrop in the in your podcast feed.
But Long story short, moving is sort of a crossover drama to me.
It has mass appeal. It had the budget.
It had the cast look at the cast that they enticed to be in the
show. The script was amazing,
airtight. It really was the best of both
worlds. Like you had that 40 minute
episode, 20 episode length of the show, top cast.
I mean, there's a lot. It's has so much going for it.
It's perfect. What more can you want?
Yeah. So fun fact, baby boy Ichanga
our bong sook gained roughly 66 pounds to play.
Bong sook. How?
Christian Bale of him. Bro, stop it with the Christian
Bale because I feel like every other day on Facebook I get
those stupid ass posts of people.
Make of like, him in every single movie where he's had,
like, a drastic physical change. Yeah, I know what you.
It's too much. It's too much.
But yeah, he goes all out with his roles.
Yeah, anyway, Christian Bale was Batman, this man said.
I was really happy to be able to eat as we all are.
And I was like, that makes it seem like he's not eating like
usually. To being pretty slim.
He's usually pretty slim, and he said he was disheartened when
his friends didn't recognize him in the show.
Because he was little chunkers. He was a chunker.
Oh. Not even that much.
Like, he wasn't even right. It wasn't that much.
I mean, he definitely was a, you know, a little bigger, but.
Which is also different from K Drums.
You have this leading kid who, well, he's not a kid, He's in
his 20s, but usually. You have this leading guy.
Who is not? He doesn't look like the typical
cage on Malid. No, he doesn't.
He, he definitely breaks that mold where it's like very thin
and athletic, lean. You know, here he is, not those
things. No.
And but I love that. I think they do a really good
job of using him as a character And you know how they use him as
a character and how his mom babies him and feeds them all
this food, you know, just to keep them down on the ground.
On the ground. OK, so I think we would like to
get into spoilers at this point, but I'm excited to ask you,
Rico, what would you give the show out of five SOLDIER
bottles? So out of five soldier bottles,
I think I'm going to settle on a four.
What? Maybe I don't want to go 4.5
like 4.25 out of five. I guess we have to start with
the issues that brought your rating down because mine's A5
out of five, bruh. Yeah, I don't.
So I I wouldn't say it's perfect, but like, that's a
really high score. You know, you know, maybe I'll
give it a four, I'll get a four and a half and I'll it.
It has to do with the ending. OK.
Oh yeah, we we should definitely get into.
Well, we'll talk about the ending, don't worry.
Details here. OK, so that's it this is.
Concludes the non spoiler section.
We're going to go right into spoilers right after this.
You want to come in? All right, we're on the other
side of spoilers, so anything goes.
Rico, I don't know if you want to start with your issues with
the show, whatever those are or if you want to kind of go like
character by character or talk about your favorite episodes.
What do you want to do? Let's.
OK, so let's. Because I'd rather end on a high
note than end on a low note. So let's start with like issues
and they're very small issues. It's not like giant things.
I think that the kids are good. I I do wish that it was a little
more centered around who I'm calling X-23.
Like, yeah, so that is like the storyline that I'm a little more
invested in because there's more mystery behind it to start off
with versus having someone who is just.
But you mean her story or her dad's story?
You mean her story? The two of them, The two of
them. I I would say the two of them,
because I think that's where you get the most meat off the bone.
And I think so. I feel that way because there's
a mystery that comes in and maybe it's because it's tied to
two of my favorite episodes of the show.
So, OK, so. Talk to me.
So one of my favorite episodes
is episode 5, which is basically the bullying episode, which is
the episode where the flashback to where she was at her old
school. And I just, I really got
invested in the fact that like this girl who was the class
president was being bullied for no reason.
You know, like you know, the the, the bullies, the girl
group, you know, was very abusive to her.
They would take her things from her, you know, They would
manipulate her to giving away those things.
They would intimidate her. Nobody was saying a damn thing.
Nobody was even turning an eye over to the situation.
And you know, you get this internal monologue that she's
saying like, you know, if if an act happens and nobody sees it,
then it really happened. You know, she says.
And it really culminates when she finally, like with her
orange highlighter, just runs it across her book onto the table.
She's had enough and she gets up.
Hey you outside. Bro doesn't even like say
anything else, just says outside.
Yes. And then that's when we get the
image from the very beginning of the episode where we see her
looking at herself in a reflection, where she's all
messy, dirty and bloody, and we see how she got there and we see
those powers manifest themselves there.
Where these girls. Yeah, for the first time
because. She didn't know.
No, she didn't know that. She was exactly so now, like.
She went into that knowing it was 17 to one and she didn't
know that she had. No, she was like, I'm, I'm tired
of this bullshit. I'm going to stand up for this
girl that nobody else is standing up for except for one
guy. One guy was like, stop it.
Like she had a a box cutter in her hand and so but then like
the bully's boyfriend comes and beats the shit out of him.
So like, and then even he says something along the lines of
just stay quiet. Yeah, it's stupid.
I shouldn't have spoke up. It's senior year.
We're almost out of here. Yeah.
So kind of just this passive nature of like just letting
things happen and going about your day and but she was like, I
can't do that. I can't.
And so then, you know, she fights off these girls.
She's healing while she's beating the shit out of these
girls. She bites a girl's calf and you
know, she gets expelled for, you know, fighting and it affects.
She's the only one. She's the only one who gets
expelled. Which?
Because there's no evidence of any right like and they can't
even do the self-defense thing because she has no, that's.
The whole thing is that it looks like she beat the shit out of
all the girls and not the other way around, right?
Exactly, because they were ganging up on her.
They were slashing her up, yeah, but they were fucking her up,
yeah. And she was bleeding all over
like someone. A giant brick, a giant stoned
hit her over the head and you see the blood running down her
forehead, but like she is just stone cold on the leader of the
group. But it comes to a head because
then the dad gets affected because now he to so it doesn't
he she doesn't go to jail and she there's no prosecution or
anything. He basically has to pay off
these families. A settlement, yeah.
Yeah. He has to sell the home, has to
do all these things. But I really love when they're
walking out of the school, they're walking through the
field. And she asked.
Do you, did you know that I was like this?
And he says, not until today. And and then it continues.
It's like your mom would still, well, she would be proud because
you turned out like me. She'd be so happy.
Yeah, she'd be so happy because you turned out like me.
Someone who stands up, you think he's about to say something
else, maybe like, you know you you have a power that I have or
something that you turned out like me.
But no, he's saying your character is just like mine
because I wouldn't have just let that happen.
So that was an episode where I was just like, damn, this is a
really good episode, really showing not only how she got to
where she is now, where she's like doing the tests over and
over and trying to get faster, trying to get stronger.
But you see where she comes from mentally.
Like, you know, if she gets involved in stuff, she's a good
person. But if she gets involved, she
sees how it can affect people close to her.
So that's why she's a little guarded when she first arrives
at the school and doesn't really want to like fully show herself
to everyone. And I just love that the episode
ends with a new student coming to the school and it's the the
class president from the old school who was being bullied.
She comes to the new school so. Oh, OK.
So yeah, so that is one of my which is a.
Huge deal because it's their senior year, right?
Yeah, they only have a few months left.
Yeah. So imagine in the middle of your
senior year you get up and go to a different school.
So I mean, and then that all the bullet bullying.
Does the same thing. Just to be with the person who
stood up for her? Yes, exactly.
Who risked her life to to stand up to the bullies?
Yeah, exactly. So.
So that's one of my favorite episodes that.
So that really helped me tie with those two characters for
sure. And then my other episode.
And again, it's still with Hulk. It's episode 10, the monster.
Oh, this is fantastic. I love this episode.
Yeah, talk to me. This episode is going back in
time, showing you how he used his powers back in the day.
Yeah, at first he was like basically the the guy in the
Mafia who he was, He was the meat shield.
He was. He was in the game, yeah.
He was in the game. He was the muscle.
Yeah, exactly. He was the muscle.
That's what I was trying to word.
So he was the muscle. And then it gets to the point
where he he's done with this mob boss, he's done with it.
So. Well, so there's like a merger
happening, right? Well, that that's happening
later, but before that, like as the episode is showing us, it's
it's showing us the, the early part of it where he goes and
basically ends like what's happening with the particular
mob boss with the glasses, with like he's got like the really,
really wide. Cartoonish.
Really cartoonish. Lapels on his shirt, the collar,
so you know, And then he becomes the boss of this nightclub
establishment because, I mean, he becomes a force because he
shows that, yeah, you can't kill me, you can stick machetes and
knives and everything. That was nuts when he came in to
take over that club. Yeah, and he's like.
Has like 3 stabs. He like, rips open his stomach
and stuff. Yeah, he's like, where's my
gallbladder? Like he's trying to, like,
pinpoint the fact that he can go into his stomach, try to search
for something. You can't kill him.
Like he's scaring the guy on purpose to get him to sign the
papers. And what's cool about the
character that you find out is that he doesn't care about the
money. No, he does not.
He's not in the gang to make money.
And that was something that his superior was saying.
He's like, we're all in this to make money.
That's the whole point of us being in this gang.
And he's like, that's not why I'm in the gang.
It's about protecting my my friends, the boys, yeah.
It's his family, this adopted family that he has loyalty,
right? Because the mob is messing
around with peoples in in the different territories.
So he's doing it for that. But what I like about the
episode is that it is taking that and it's juxtaposing it
with a different time in his life.
That is like almost immediately after that.
It's not in the present, it's like.
Several months after, right? So like, you keep jumping back
and forth between this man who seemingly is on top and then
this in the next moment we see him.
Sort of a neutered, yeah, like getting run over by hidden run,
but he's doing it just so he can settle money right there on the
spot. Yeah, that's his income.
Exactly.
So, you know, and then finally the the episode like kind of
hits you in the middle of like here was the rise and here was
the fall and the fact that these two mob bosses, the one that he
was a part of originally, turns out that he was sacrificing him
and sending him in. But at the end they they still
did their merger because it was about the money at the end of
the day. Yeah, and of course there are
consequences when you go and you don't say yes, you, you decide
no, and then you, you, one of your associates goes ahead and
betrays the. The betrayal from the friend.
Like, took me out, brah. Yeah man, just a pure betrayal,
which really sucks. And you're still not going to
kill him even if you tie him up the scene.
Of them, like tying him up and then making, but they they put
him in the car. They were on one of those
barges? Yep.
And they dumped the car. They dumped the car with him.
Sea or something. Yeah.
I was like, no, they did not. Yeah, they did.
Sleeping with the fishes? Yeah.
So yeah, they tried. With the gang shit, yeah.
So they tried to get him to sleep with the fishes, but he
was like, no, no, no, I'm not tired yet.
So he goes and he breaks his thumb so he could get out of the
handcuffs. He rips off the head seat so he
could get the rope around his neck off.
And then they cut to him in the club again, murder a bunch of
people and his former friend on his knees begging him for his
life. Yeah, it it's.
A little similarity here with ballerina because both that
betrayal. That that friend that betrayed
him in the gang and the villain in Ballerina have like the sides
of their mouth cut. Yes, I.
Don't know what that was about, but yeah, for some reason they
they like like that that Joker scar.
Yeah, I don't know how I got these scars.
So. So those are two of my favorite
episodes. No, but you didn't.
Oh my God, you skipped this whole thing in episode 10.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Where two things.
Sun one is the sunfish. What do you think of the
sunfish? Like the?
Which was swimming throughout the episode and that's his
favorite fish to eat, like the dish that he kept wanting to
eat. And it wasn't customary to eat
this in this new city that the gang was in.
I I want to say that it was kind of his.
Spirit animal, yes. Yeah.
I don't know what the significance of a sunfish is to
different people or maybe to that community, so I'm not sure.
But it could be his spirit animal.
It could. Be It's a giant fish.
Have you ever seen a sunfish? It's a it's a giant fish.
It's. Huge, yeah.
I had in that moment where he's in the water and he hears the
fish, it it felt to me like a Man of Steel.
Where? Where?
Clark Kent after he saved all those people from that oil rig?
He's like laying in the water and he just sees the whale, just
like. Oh my God.
Swimming by. You're right.
Yeah, it's very similar to that. But yeah, so I.
Stopped drawing comparisons to the plethora of superhero movies
that we've watched in our lifetime.
I know there's so many. There's too many.
Too many anyway. But I want to go back in the
episode though, because you can clearly see that he he does have
a heart of gold when after his fall after he is down on the
dumps like he's. Living in that Moto?
Yeah, exactly. Where he he can only pay 1A week
because once a week because he has to get money to do it, yeah.
But he meets his wife here. What do you think of his
romance? See, I I I like it because I
like that it is not the most common way of meeting someone.
No, pretty unconventional. Yes, very unconventional.
But he's so cute. He is so cute, 'cause he sees
her and oh she she was getting hassled by these assholes in the
same hallway as him. At first.
And she just takes care of it herself.
But he was ready to like jump in.
Like he had opened his door and was like about to come out.
And then he's like, Oh no, no, she's got it and came back
inside. And then later he starts trying
to get her to come and bring the coffee, deliver the coffee,
which I had never heard of this service before.
But if, I don't know, it's the 90s and I don't know anything
about Korea in the 90s, That's true.
I was like this is strange but anyway the delivery like Uber
eats now. No, but she comes in and makes
the coffee for him. Oh yeah, that's right.
You're right. Never mind.
And all of the all of the people that come, the ladies that come
look a little like, I don't know, they're like flirtatious
and they. Ask if they want if he wants a
ticket. Right, there's a.
There's a little hint. It's like an of.
Undercurrent of like sex work. I don't know if that's.
Accurate, but that is what I it's a hint because if you look
at, if you go back to the argument in the hallway with the
other patron, like he says 10,000, he's.
Trying to pay her to to sleep right their their dollars.
I'm not sure how. 01 one 10,001 for a cup of coffee.
Like there's no way it's that. Like, that was the charge that
she was saying. And so then like, she explains,
like First off it's two cups, That's the minimum order.
And then with the service fee and everything, it's 10,000.
But when she gets up, like just the way she's dressed with the
hoop earrings and all that and made-up little chunga.
Yeah, little chunga. So you know, you there's an
undercurrent there. Obviously it's not explicit or
anything, but you can tell like there is a type of service where
they masquerade. I don't know if it's guaranteed,
like if you order coffee 100% like you saw.
You see what I'm saying? So I think there's kind of.
If they offer, great. But I guess If not, then you're
just getting coffee, right? I don't know.
I think it's it's not explained. It's very well at all.
It's probably a special type of service of like, hey, we have
beautiful women who can make you coffee.
Right. I think that's the appeal.
That's the appeal, like, and and some people probably read too
much into it and think that it's something more.
Do you know what I mean? I don't know.
Maybe the people do. Like what I'm saying is the
people ordering or maybe coming to the conclusion of, hey, maybe
these pretty women coming to make coffee, they're not just
going to make coffee, you know what I'm saying?
So May, and then we're going to see the prize.
I'm so, I'm so sorry I did that. I don't know.
So, but what I like is he, what does he order like 5 different
coffees just to get her to deliver it?
Right. Exactly, exactly.
You know, don't forget to put cream in it.
So yeah, so, so those two episodes right there.
No, but when he cleaned up the little apartment that he's in
and stuff like that was like after he complained, like you
guys don't even clean it. And he's like and the the woman
is like you're living there. We don't offer that for long
term. You want your room clean?
Go stay in a hotel. Because he was like trying to
like haggle, I guess on the price of the the room.
And he was like, you don't even come and clean the room.
I don't know. I could see it both ways, but I
see what you're saying, yeah. Yeah.
Anyway, I really like this, this love story because it's not,
it's unconventional and she's sort of a hard on him and it
takes a few of these coffee dates for her to, like figure
him out for her to for him to figure her out.
He like what it, what is it? I think we're in episode 11
actually. But you know, he closes the
window because she's cold and he, like always has it open.
Yeah. He talked to her about Hulk
Hogan and martial arts novels, and that these novels are
actually romantic and they have happy endings and the hero gets
the girl at the end of these stories and stuff and just
sharing interests with each other, like true dates, you
know? Exactly.
And again, I know. And then he turns off the TV
because she doesn't seem to like it when the TV is on.
Like he's learning her and he's very considerate.
And it's so cute. I don't know, like, it's really
cute. But going back to episode
episode 10, he when he gets lost, yes, at night trying to
find the motel and he cries when he sees her again on the moped.
I was almost in tears. I it was so shockingly endearing
and he just says I can't find my way.
Literally and figuratively. Because without the gang, he
feels lost without purpose or direction in life and he's doing
these stupid things to get money.
Literally putting himself in harm's way to get money.
And then he's also lost, like literally he cannot find his way
out of this maze like, you know, suburban area or urban area and.
I just felt for him immediately. Like, did you feel for the like,
I was completely sold on this dude.
I was like in his corner 110%, yeah.
Because you can tell that even when he was part of the Mafia or
the OR the gang, there was never like a sense of like he's doing
it to be, you know, he's not trying to do a put on of like,
oh, I'm a mafia. So I'm like, you know, he's
never doing it for the intention of getting rich.
Or, you know, he's just doing it for protecting people because
that's what his natural, you know, inclination is.
He's a protector. He's a protector.
So that's what he wanted to do in that game.
He wanted to protect his own people.
And now that he has no people to protect, he doesn't view himself
valuable as he does other people.
He always values the other more than himself.
So if he doesn't have anyone to protect, what is he protecting?
Right. Oh, I got nothing to add to
that, Nothing to add to that at all.
That was perfect. Episode 11.
The one in the hallway, Yes. The one in the hallway.
Yes, yes, yes. Tell me they did not try and
pull a Netflix on Netflix They. Like, this is like double
dutching on Netflix to me. Yeah, I think they it's man,
it's a really good job. It's such a great sequence.
And then the chase sequence afterward is great.
When he's like running around on foot, they're like trying to
drive him down. I mean, it's so compelling.
It is really compelling. They do a really good job with
this episode. Yeah.
And just this entire action sequence.
I think that's one thing I will give the show is that just about
all of their action sequences are just so well done.
Well done, yeah. Yeah.
I don't really have any complaints for them.
Again, I mentioned it before, they're coherent is it's the big
thing which a lot of directors just in general like to do all
this fancy editing around it and you don't need to.
Yeah, have a medium shot and let us see where they're going.
Show me what's going on. See who they're punching, you
know? See how they're reacting to the
punch? That's what I want.
And the show. The show delivers with that.
She saves him on the moped again and repeats the line that he
said back to her earlier, because initially, well, they're
sitting in the coffee with the coffee in his room.
She asked him why haven't you asked me why I'm doing this, why
I'm like a coffee girl? And he told her, you must have
had a reason. And basically just gives her the
benefit of the doubt. And if she doesn't want to share
it, she doesn't have to share it.
And with all of the chaos, pure chaos that's happening, a couple
of action sequences later, she saves his ass.
And he basically asked her like, why aren't you asking me what
the fuck's going on? And she says, you must have had
a reason. Yes, I was like, this is cinema.
Like, I love it. Yeah, trust.
That they built over time, and they've just endeared themselves
to one another. And at the end he finally comes
back after he's been recruited by that asshole in the in the
NIS. Or at that point it was ANSP.
He's, he tells her in the coffee.
I think it was a coffee shop. Still, he tells her I'm still
bad at finding my way. I just tried to find you so bad.
She's like, that's smooth. Like even she says something to
that effect. He's got the Rizz.
Godly. Yeah.
So I love them. So what are your favorite
episodes? Well, Episode.
So it still has to do with Hulk. Hulk number one.
That's what I thought. Let me see.
I think it's episode 13 it when she dies.
I was. I was just crying into my bowl
of cereal. Heartbreaking her death, his
wailing in the in the funeral when he's like changing into the
funeral clothes and stuff and he just cannot stop crying and
wailing. I felt his pain.
He was whimpering at one point. I was like, Oh my God, like it
was heart wrenching. Tore me up.
And I also liked how in this episode we got to see an
evolution of their of their family because it was just them
at 1st and he had this cushy, not cushy, but he had a job
study job with the government and she was, I think it was
every month they were having BBQ at the house.
Do you remember this? Yes.
And she finally reveals to him like, oh, you're not going to be
home for, you know? Barbecue tonight and he says no,
but we can have BBQ next time, next month or whatever.
And she goes. The only reason why I wanted you
here in the in the house to have BBQ once a month.
We can have BBQ at any time, but today is my ovulation day and
it's revealed she's been trying to get pregnant this whole time.
Yeah, wants to get pregnant. So fertility issues are brought
up in the show briefly, like they don't linger on it, but.
No, but that's enough for her to be like I was hoping to get
pregnant on these BBQ nights because, you know, I'm the most
fertile today. I was shocked that they even
went this far. Yeah, this show contains a lot,
You know, like they're, you know, something that really
stands out to me is like they allow for the male characters to
really emote. They they get to show their
emotions, whether they're angry, they're sad, they're frustrated,
you get to see it. So like, obviously their example
with Hulk or he's crying, whimpering after the death of
his wife. Another example is later on in,
I want to say it's episode 19. Yeah, episode 19 where you have
the the bad guys who are fighting at the school against
the adults. The last few episodes is a fight
at the school. Yeah, it is.
That's like a downright brawl. It really is.
And it lasts for several hours. It it does so Hulk is facing
basically a bigger Hulk. Yeah, and but that bigger Hulk
has a connection with the dude who's like kind of controls the
weather in a way. Controls the weather.
That controls the weather. Sorry, but like it looked like
he was controlling the weather. Just.
Because, oh, he had like, a clap.
Yeah, he had like this clap that just would send.
Like Supersonic Clap? Yeah, pretty much.
But there was a connection between the two and after the
Sonic Clap guy dies. Like he breaks down.
I know what he cries like and you see, like the connection
that they had, Like, you know, he was a guard and he was a
prisoner. Well, that's the thing, you
know, helps him escape and all this stuff.
The thing is, like the show gives you character studies for
each and every fucking character, and the Sonic Clap
guy had a whole history that we got to see where he was in a
North Korean concentration camp in a fucking hole in a
mountainside somewhere. And that's where he grew up,
because he's a survivor. Maybe his powers just gave him
that extra resilience and he survived where others were
constantly dying of malnutrition, of exposure, of
whatever in the jail. And the scene of them, like
opening up the the cell to reveal this decomposing body
right there at the entrance. And then he's huddled in the
corner as a child. How can you not feel bad?
For this Sonic clap guy, even though he's trying to take down
your favorite hero characters in South Korea like that is
incredible that you have so much growth and so much back story
and and just they built these characters right brick by brick.
You're feeling some type of way about these characters and how
they go out because a Sonic clap guy, what, he's a victim.
He's a victim of the of the ongoing war between North and
South Korea. Of the dictatorship in North
Korea. And his whole family was
slaughtered. And he's alone and they have to
put sunglasses on him because he's like a a mole down there.
Can't adjust to the light anymore.
Nuts. Yeah, nuts.
You sympathize with characters. You empathize for characters.
Yeah, they do. An amazing And so that the Hulk,
The North Korean Hulk, Yes, you feel bad for that too.
That dude too, because you saw him climbing up a sheer
mountainside trying to get back up to, I guess, the chief of the
of this division, the Super division.
But he died. Like he effectively died because
he was. They were all pushed off the
Cliff to see if they had powers. Wild ass way to test if they
have powers, But all of his comrades were murdered and he
died. And then he came back and
started climbing up. There was no other way.
They weren't going to go get him, no.
It, I mean, and it also showed it's incredible it, but it also
shows the way that the two countries deal with, you know,
super powered people where you know.
Neither way is great. Neither way is great.
That's the that's the worst part of it is that neither way is
great because all these kids have to hide in secret.
You know they can't show their powers.
You know you have the parents that are doing everything they
can to protect them. You have government agencies
tracking and hunting the Super powered people down, which is
why I said damn, this is the X-Men.
Like these are super powered people who in the face of
society are not fully accepted. And government agencies either
want mutants, they're mutants. They either want to hunt them
down to kill them or they want to experiment on them and use
them as weapons. So yeah, So either way, like the
way they're treated just in general, by society, by each
other, by the nature of these governments and what they want
to use them for, it sucks for them.
And the kids didn't ask for that life.
No, none of them did. No, none of them did.
But they have to make do the best they can with the.
They have to survive. They have to survive.
Yeah, yeah. So my favorite episodes had to
do with Hulk and X23. Although I I really, I love
that. I love that you adopted the
name. Well, I'm not going to sit here
and try and remember it because I'll remember their real name
and not their character name and vice versa.
And then it gets confusing. So and then if you've never
watched a show, but you're listening to the spoiler
section, like you don't know who the hell I'm talking about.
So yeah, it's a little easier. But episode 12, bro, we got to
see the dynamic duo. We got to see Hulk and Superman.
On a couple of their missions and how the two men met, how
they work together. This is something that is
missing from so many shows, from so many friendships.
Consider Star Wars prequel. This is like that in between
stuff like how they kind of work together, how they met.
All this stuff in between, they're not just talking, like,
remember that job in Argentina? Blah, blah.
That was a crazy job. We don't get none of that
change. No, no, no.
We're there in Argentina with yet.
That's what I mean. Yes, that's what I love when
they do that. Because there's so many movies
that'll be like, remember that time where we it's like just
show us the damn thing. Just show us.
Don't tell us. Show us.
Don't tell us, show us. So it's just a little side
tangent that I wanted to say real quick.
So like there was a recent show just now on Disney plus Ahsoka
where the the season was only 8 episodes long for for no reason
at all. Like it was short for what?
I thought it was because there were episodes that you could
have shown us things that you didn't get to show us either
with this show or even with the show that preceded it, Rebels
where a lot of characters came from.
So like you could have shown us like.
Ezra and Thron, how did they end up on that planet?
Show us, you know, instead of like, oh, I've been here a long
time, you know, and like, OK, what did you do in that time?
Like how did you get away from Thron that he's not chasing you?
Like, so show us that. Like I see what you're saying.
You know, Star Wars is a big, grand example of what not to do.
And moving this show really came through.
And you see this dynamic, this bromance that they have together
and the bond that they share. It's palpable.
And you're rooting for them and you want, you're wanting to know
what the fuck happened to Choyan Sung's character, Superman,
right? Because in this episode, it's
unclear if Superman went to kill the North Korean dictator or
not. Then you find out what the fuck
happened in North Korea later and it's so cool.
It really is also going back to family because I mentioned
infertility issues earlier with Hulk and his wife.
Not that they had infertility issues, they just didn't.
I don't know what was going on because if she was having sex on
her ovulation day and nothing was happening, I don't know,
maybe she did have infertility issues.
But you never see in K dramas, they cover the newborn era in a
family with a family, right? Actually, the act of actually
starting a family of, you know, changing dirty diapers and
things like that, you see kids in K dramas, but they're already
grown and talking and the family unit is already built.
But you don't ever see two people coming together to get
get married, be together and partner together in child
rearing. That's really unique.
And it's heartwarming to see both couples, Superman and
Hulk's families, get started and how they're like staying up late
and the baby's crying and you know it.
That's cool. It's different and it's
character building as well. The character building, world
building in this show is man, it's so strong.
Like you could put it up against a lot of different other, like,
you know, types of properties where they're trying to build a
world and a lot of them fail where moving succeeds, like, Oh
yeah. Yeah, they do a great job.
Now the fact that they had 20 episodes to do it is really
good. So you have time to fill so you
could back story stuff for sure. For sure versus.
You know, shows nowadays are only like. 6810 episode
miniseries and it's like you're not going to get the full depth
and scope of the characters if you're rushing through from
point A to point B. Here the show does not rush from
point A to point B. He takes us on little side
adventures. Oh, you want to know what Hulk
was like when he was younger? Here it is.
And do you want to know these different adventures?
Here they are. Or Pokémon the Electricity dude.
Yes, electricity, dude. You find out about this bus
driver who has like a very small part in the final episode but is
like a recurring character. And you're also rooting for him.
And you're wondering, is he ever going to use his powers?
Because they they, you know, kind of go about it like at one
point Frank is leaving the building and.
Electricity man's in the building with like a little
battery in his hand but he's like, but what was cool about
the batteries was that contain memories.
That was cool too. Yeah, that's a cool thing to
show us. And and so, like, he is so like,
you know, emotional at that moment that it's like flickering
with the lights of the entire building.
So like, you're kind of waiting and they're building up that
character. When is he finally going to
unleash this power? And he does in a really
satisfying way. Yes, exactly.
Do you want to talk about Frank and how he was basically stolen
to the US? Yes, we have to.
OK, OK, talk about Frank. Go go for.
It no, no, no. Like, lead us in, I'll jump in.
So there's this character named Frank.
Who is the assassin sent by you don't know.
You don't know. They figured you find you find
out it's the US and he starts assassinating all of the supers.
Right, exactly. And he gets a back story.
It's like, you'll get a back story and you'll get a back
story. You'll get a back story.
He gets a back story. And it's very interesting.
He was stolen as a child. He was a a kid out of wedlock.
His mother was like a bar singer.
And he, I think, was also the son of AUS military service.
Member I think it was, yeah, I was in stationed in Korea.
So they find out he has powers or something and they just ship
him right off to is it Idaho or Iowa?
It was Iowa. It was Iowa, right, with the
cornfields. Yep, Iowa.
And they start training them brutally.
The scene of him running through and like having one on ones with
the other kids and fighting to the death, like battle Royale
style. Yeah, you're just shocked.
Like I'm looking around like where's the camera, Office
style. And it does explain the fact
that, like, early on, before you know him, like he's talking crap
to that superhero guy, the first one that he kills, and he's like
talking in English. And you're like, yeah,
interesting that he's speaking English, because nobody else in
this show has. Any inkling of speaking any
English? And here's this character.
So it does bring a bit of intrigue.
Like, OK, where is he from? Who is he working for?
What are his powers so? And they you figure it out.
Yeah, they they. So I really enjoyed that about a
character like this. And then they also planted the
seed for possible Season 2, right?
Yes, they did. And his age, whatever agency
he's a part of, because there's other kids in this program that
have powers and he's only F for Frank.
Exactly. So there's also like, what was
the end of this show? They had that post credits scene
E for Elias. E for Elias, another super,
super agent that gets called in, We have to call from the US.
So the US is like an antagonist, right?
Like, yeah, they're the they want to be the only people that
have supers. Exactly.
And also that leads into. Man, too many comparisons with
X-Men. I'm so sorry, but like, wait,
wait, wait. Before you make comparisons,
hold that thought. Hold that thought because Frank
also represents, like, Finding Your Roots and the adoption
story of so many people in Korea.
Because Korea, as a lot of you guys know, is the number one
exporter of babies. Oh man.
And so there's a lot of adoption stories that are extremely
moving, no pun intended. And Frank represents this like
subset to people who are yearning for connection,
yearning to know where they came from, who their parents are.
And at the end, in the post credits scene, you see him, he's
missing like Mia, but he's really tracing his roots back to
that club that his mother used to sing at and who knows where
that is going to lead. Yeah, in a possible season too,
right? So it's interesting.
It it really is, it's covering so much.
And. Just to go back to that point
that I was going to say because like you said F for Frank and
there's like E for Elias. It does remind me of when the
company I'm, I can't remember the name of the company, but the
company that is trying to use the mutant DNA to create mutants
and that's where X-23 comes from, because they number them
X1X2 and all that, so. X-23 is the 23rd iteration of
the mutant that they they assembled, so there's a
similarity there. Also, there's a similarity kind
of in using using someone from a, you know, from a different
country and having them come back and do all these types of
work. The Winter Soldier.
Type of like scenario, right, right.
You know, like, so there's like similarities there.
That is very similar to Winter Soldier, yeah?
So, yeah, this show. OK, so Frank is Winter Soldier.
Frank's The Winter Soldier. Trying to remember his past.
Oh my God, it's too perfect.
Yes. Yeah, so, so we got The Winter
Soldier, we got Hulk, we got X-23.
We got so many people. OK, let's do two more
backstories and then let's jump into end game episodes.
OK, so I think the most, the most or not the most, the best
parts of Han Yoju are when Bong Sok is a child.
OK, yes. And you see her in the snow and
she's carrying him on on her back and she's got like this
rolling bag and it's it's like very overwhelming.
The conditions are crazy and she's tired.
Yeah, you know, she's put in everything to just keep them
alive and surviving and that moment when he starts to float
in the restaurant. And she, like, puts a foot down
on the chair and puts them back on the ground.
And she says, Mom's tired. Like, I just felt that deep in
my bones. Everyone, poor one out for your
mom. Yes, because they are
superheroes. Like I think this show is really
sheds also the theme of women. Mothers are superheroes and
fathers are superheroes. Like parents are everything.
They don't have to have super powers to be super.
Exactly. Exactly.
Every single parent. Every single mom and dad out
there. Like they're doing miracle work
every day. Yeah.
Yeah, the good ones, 'cause I know there's horror stories and
everyone's got their issues. I I totally get that.
But, you know, yes, but I think Hanyuju excels when the child,
when Bong Sook is a child and when he's already grown, she's
still great, but she doesn't have like moments to shine like
she does when she's like teaching him how to walk without
floating and, you know, being on her guard.
And it's very it's very much that I think everyone felt
something when she was just breaking down from the heaviness
of the situation, losing her husband and having to be a
single mom. Yeah, And they bring that that
visual moment, full circle where she's carrying him, and then he
gets to return the favor of carrying her.
I had this in my notes as well because I it's very emotional
for me. I don't know why the full circle
moment with the the piggyback ride really got me, but the
reciprocation is precious. This is in the very last
episode. The child she's so dearly raised
and protected is now protecting her.
Exactly. And just as she suffered in the
snow carrying him on her back, now he carries her and she just
Mumbles like my son is all grown up now.
But she actually uses the word udi udi which means our like us.
Ah, OK, she says. Like our son is all grown up
now. Gotcha.
So, like, I guess talking about like she's almost like she's
talking to her, her husband. Her husband who's missing.
Yes, I love it. Don't you love it?
It's great. It's great stuff.
All right, Precious, any other
characters you want to go over? Did we want to talk about Kim
Sung Kyun Hulk #2? Hulk #2, because, bro, that
story was also, like, really emotional.
And he is such a loving father. He really is such a loving
father in a very different way than the others and it I think I
was almost moved to tears again when he comes back after that
big brawl with the protest that was broken up by the police and
his wife was like taken away in the Paddy wagon and like he
starts a fight with the. Cops don't mess with his family,
man, bro. Do not mess with his family.
He comes back after this whole brawl where he ends up in the
sewer system. They save a child.
They got sucked into the sewers. I mean it was it was extensive.
But he ends up back home and his little boy is sitting there just
waiting for him and he's like, I'm so sorry I was late.
And then they bust in like the
NIS busting to take him. I remember that like that was
really sad that. It was so sad.
It was sad. And in the final episodes, Hulk
#2 slash Fist of Fury, that's what I have in my notes.
Fist of Fury is still wearing that same red shirt.
He is when he takes off running towards the school and he's
taking these giant leaps. And I love that scene in the
brawl where he sends that North Korean Hulk flying out the
window. Actually, it's not even a Hulk.
It's like a Hulk #4. Yeah, it's more of like the.
I know who you're talking about. Yeah, 'cause he was there.
With the North Koreans, yes, he's wailing on the sun.
And at one point he has torturing him, basically.
The sun up in a chokehold and he's like stepping on the
teacher. Yeah, the PE teacher got in the
fray. Yes, He's trying to help, trying
to help the kids. He's good, yeah.
Yeah, he's a good guy. So then that's where the dad
when he showed up. Oh, oh oh, what a great moment.
And he just starts wailing on this guy, throwing him against
anything and everything. There's a move where damn he,
the guy is laying on the floor. So Dad.
Kicks them up into the air and then punches them back down into
the ground. I was like, damn dude, what's
cool about their powers? Because they all have very
similar powers. They're similar, yeah.
Fist of Fury #2 basically has the same exact powers as Hulk #2
and they do not heal. Right.
So whatever impact and and they're feeling every punch,
everything. Exactly.
They're not impervious to to the pain and to breaking bones and
whatever. They're gonna heal just like any
other person. It takes a long time and they
can die. And they can die.
It's it's just more super strength is really the thing,
yeah. Which is interesting to have
super strength without like having no feeling, no pain or
having no healing ability. Yeah, because that kind of feels
like if I punch a brick wall and I break the brick wall, but I
still feel the fucking brick wall.
You're going to break your arm, yeah.
In multiple places. So great job of breaking down
the brick wall, but you're down for the count, huh?
You're going to be in a cast for a year and a half.
It's it's a very catch 22 of a of a superpower.
But. Anyway, I would say he throws
this guy out the window. It's a deterrent, yes.
Like I can destroy you with a punch, but I don't want.
Right. I don't want to do it because if
not, we'll both be injured. But you're going to, you're
going to be the one that really feels it.
So Hulk #2 sends this guy out the window and when he turns
around his his his son is there, but they cut to him as a child
again, sitting on the floor waiting for him to come back to
the house. Tears.
That was so well done and
unfair. Yes, it's so manipulative.
It really was. So do we want to OK, so end
game. Yeah, end game.
So let's discuss last couple of episodes because I know we're
starting to run a little long. So OK, so Bong Sook can fly.
Now for real. For real, like he can control
it. Like, I really enjoy that
moment. I really enjoyed the moment
where it's after the gymnasium, after X-23 gets shot, but she
starts to heal and he she's like, go to your mom.
So then he takes off and there's like this inspiring music behind
them as he's like learning how to, you know, maneuver himself
around buildings and everything. And again, sorry for the
comparison. Man of Steel flight when he
flies for the first time that inspiring music that's lifting
him right underneath. I I I was just like damn, this
is good. I love I I love a good like hero
finally masters their power moment.
I love that like they finally get it clicking and the fact
that he's able to get the flying down and now it can match like.
Him with taking on people and stuff like that, it's wonderful.
And he said during the gymnasium fight.
Oh, you take off your, the villain said oh, you take off
your dad. Because the two flying dudes had
a showdown before in North Korea, and he says I take after
my mother. Yeah, man.
Oh my God, Awesome mom's rule. The confession scene.
What do you think of that little confession?
Oh, where The gymnasium like someone that I like and
whatever. And then it's like, wait a
minute. What'd you just say?
What'd you say? Like what do you mean what?
Yeah, you just said something weird.
Yeah, he just said something weird.
Yeah, but then she you said she takes a bullet for him.
She takes a bullet for him in the forearm.
Yeah. Just as her dad did earlier to
protect Bong Sok's mom. And the PE homeroom teacher who
had that, like, was in the past in that whole showdown with the
North Korean soldiers back in the early 2000s, was it?
Yeah, late 90s, early 2000s. So I love that Another full
circle moment. Yeah, because it Speaking of
like the gunshot wound, there's the moment in, I can't remember
what episode, but the dad goes to see this guy about getting
payment and like, the guy tries to act tough to him and then
he's like, then like, he turns on a switch there.
He's like, where's that accent from?
Oh yeah, he and he's like. Clocks him on the accent.
Clocks him and he's like, why are you trying to put on that
accent? Like, why are you trying to be
hard, right. You know, being from that area,
you know, can get you in some trouble right here.
And like he like, turns it on and that's where we where the
guy goes, oh, are those, what are those like on his arm?
And it's like, are those like scars from something.
It's like, those are bullet scars, scars from a bullet.
And he's like, oh wow, like like he got psyched out.
It's big deal because like I said in the ballerina episode,
guns are illegal in Korea. So the fact that somebody's
taking a bullet, Yep, it's a big deal.
It's huge, yeah. So more end game stuff here.
More end game stuff. So, oh Mama Bear, Mama Bear goes
fucking ape shit in school. I love her and she turns on.
Yes, gets that gun. Fierce, yes, sniper, she says to
one of the one of the North Koreans.
I think it was Hulk #4, Fist of Fury #2 that he got sent out the
window. He she says to him.
I'll become a monster anytime if it's to protect my child.
And then shoots him dead, Shoots him dead because he could tell
he's like grabbing like either like a knife or something like
he's grabbing glass like so he could try to get up and move on
her and before he can make the move got him.
The tension throughout that episode or that series of
episodes, especially when people start to show up at the school,
Yes. And you're like, oh, the mom's
there. Oh, what's up with the guard at
the school? Like he's in on it too.
And oh, now Hulk is coming to the school and, oh, the North
Koreans are pulling up and they got another dude in the trunk.
Like, it's just, like progressively upping the ante
each episode. And you're just in one spot.
You're just at the school. Yeah, man.
They do a really good job of getting it.
I was fearful for those last couple episodes because you
know, and I was fearful that we would run into a scenario that
runs into a lot of these superhero movies where the final
act is just punching and just like nonsense.
You can't understand what they're doing type of thing, CGI
fest. And the the show, Well, First
off, it's at night. So they kind of hide themselves
with it, but they don't make it so about punchy, Punchy, you
know, destroying everything. Sure things.
People are punching stuff and each other and a building does
collapse at one point, but it never it's.
A little man of Steely, right? A little.
But it never takes away from, like, the actual story that's
being told between the characters.
So it's never one of those things where I'm just like, I
glazed my eyes or was like, OK, let's see how long like this
takes this entire you're. Getting like a little
desensitized and bored, right? With it.
But no, they it was very they do a good job to keep you in the
moment because you want to see how these characters resolve.
So they do a good job with that. I died with the electricity man,
though, 'cause he does his like, bone care man like thing?
Yep. Like his like, little.
Like what's that called? His moves, yeah, he was like
doing his whole entire choreographing move, charging up
and then finally just unleashing it into the air.
I love it. He blows off this dude's arm.
It's fantastic. It's so good.
No notes so good. So one thing I will say about
Korean shows that kind of throw me off is that the, the big
action sequence happens in basically in episodes 18 and 19
and then in episode 20 is like it almost feels like an epilogue
type of episode. A little bit, yeah, because a
little bit, you're just tying up the loose ends.
Well, some of them, and leaving an, you know, like a a
cliffhanger. Well, not a cliffhanger, but
you're leaving something. Not a cliffhanger, but you're
you're leaving something for the future as well, so.
Did you expect that Chuan Sung was alive and in North Korea
this whole time? Oh man.
For the missing husband, Superman.
Yeah, Superman. Well, when they kept saying like
he's missing, when they were saying he's missing, that clued
me into like, we're going to see him.
I don't know when, but we'll see him.
I didn't expect it to be like in a North Korean prison, but.
But I'm glad that they finally revealed where he was, that he
got reintroduced to the show. It's necessary if, especially if
they're going to do it Season 2. I wanted more from the reunion
scene, personally. That would have been nice.
Bigger moment. It's a big deal.
What's you can tell that Joinsung is a really famous.
Player. Because he doesn't come into the
show until like, episode seven or eight.
Yeah, don't see him, one of my pet peeves, but yes.
And he's missing for large swathes of the show.
And then they bring him in at the end.
It's like, tada, here's the rabbit in the hat.
Yep, it's. It's one of those things where
it's like, all right, we're kind of going over budget.
We're going to have to cut some of your scenes from some of
these episodes here. Right.
It feels a little like Wonder Womany in the cameos that she's
done. We can't use you for the entire
movie. Can't have gal, Can't have her
for the whole thing. Here's a one scene.
That's what it felt like, but otherwise a really, really nice
happy ending. Happy ish.
As happy as they can be. I will say Chuan Sung does have
a fantastic scene where he is trying to assassinate the North
Korean dictator. Yes, like that whole sequence of
him, like flying around. Mm hmm, really?
I was like, I've never seen that before.
You know how many fucking superhero things you've seen,
And I've never seen that. That's the first time.
It's just like a sniper flying around.
Yeah, you don't. Yeah, They were innovative with
stuff. It was.
They were felt innovative. That last episode.
Yeah. Gets us through a couple major
things. One thing that stood out to me
is when what is it the general from North Korea.
It's like did you get the did you get the file and the guy who
lost an arm to because of electricity man, blowing it off
of. Punkin man.
Yeah, you know, he he makes a comment of like, what did the
kids have to do with it? Pretty.
Much right? There's an undercurrent of like
the kids are innocent. Why are we pursuing children?
Right, Exactly. And.
'Cause they're not in this fight.
No, they're not. They're not.
Trained assassins like their
parents are exactly. And so it culminates to he is
not happy with the what they told him that he needed to do so
with that arm that was blown off, he pops a little a gun out
of it and shoots that general dead right there.
I didn't expect that, no. Neither did I.
It was very Kingsman. I don't know.
Kingsman. Yes, it.
Yes. Yes.
Yeah, manners maketh, man. Yeah.
So yeah, there's some things that stood out, but there's also
things that are going to possibly gives us a Season 2.
Do you think we're going to get a Season 2?
Look, I think it's not out of the question because they've
left so much open. They had post credit scenes like
a real superhero movie and there's loose ends like EU at
the North Koreans or ended up being like the big big bad
organization of the of the show. But you still have the internal
South Korean NIS. That secret part of NIS that's
dealing with the supers and you had that replacement like they
killed the guy they killed that asshole.
Question, May, did I, did I see this wrong?
But did the class president? Yeah, join the NIS.
She did it, was it. Wasn't what are you talking
about? It wasn't my imagination that I
was like seeing her in that final episode and she was like
you, you couldn't do your job or something like that that.
Oh no. It what?
What in the final? Are you talking about what?
No, hold on, Hold on. So you're talking about what
class president? You know, because they look so
similar. Maybe this is me.
I don't. I think.
I think I'm. No, you're wrong.
You're wrong. I'm looking at them.
This is my fault. This is on me.
The guy that replaces Yongtun,
which is that NIS chief 'cause he gets shot dead by Chun Sung,
is Sangu Pak Pyong Gun. That's another very famous actor
and he takes the spot of what? What?
What's the equivalent of that in the MCU?
I don't know Robert Redford. I like if if someone was taking
over SHIELD or something. Like that?
Yeah, exactly. But SHIELD is Hydra.
No, there was there was a moment I was thinking about a woman.
Because I saw a woman. OK, her name is Kwan Hansel.
Yeah, and that's not the same as the same person that I saw then.
Yeah, I was just being stupid. And no, no it's fine.
But the the. Hulk number two son Kangolin
does join the NIS. He does.
He does get recruited, yes, he does that.
I that I definitely remember. He accepts the position.
So we still got to deal with that.
We still got to deal with now Bong Sook is a superhero because
he's like flying around the city we've seen another people from.
It's a bird. It's a plane.
It's the yellow man because he's.
Wearing yellow jacket. I know.
So cute. So again, he's like a superhero.
Are we going to deal with that? What the hell is he soo doing?
X-23? What's she up to?
Is she just going to school for on a PE major?
Yeah, on a PE scholarship, like what?
What's going on with her? So a lot of different loose ends
that. They can come back to you and
tap into. They can easily come back to
you. This does feel like the end of a
season one. It does.
It feels like it. But it's so well done.
Yeah, it was very well done because you resolved the main
conflict in the first season, but you leave the, you know, all
the chess pieces are on the board to be able to move forward
with something else. Yeah, exactly.
Well, you watch season two. Yeah, I would watch Season 2.
You're like, yeah, of course, Yeah, I would definitely watch
Season 2. Gosh, OK, Because now we've
already been teased with with a new name of Alliance.
I know Elias, another agent is coming to Korea.
Frank and him got to have a showdown.
Yes, Frank's got to get inducted into the superhero.
Into the superhero society. We got to deal with the US
intervention. We got to deal with maybe North
Korea comes back into the pictures somehow.
Maybe they have their own Superman, you know that.
Well, they had. Well, I mean, is that flying man
going to come back, right? Is he going to come back?
The one armed flying Superman #2 is he going to?
Right? Is he going to play a bigger
part? You know, who knows?
Yeah. So there's questions that can
be. Answered there's right.
Right. There's enough, definitely.
For a Season 2. It's exciting.
It's exciting stuff. I liked it as well.
I would never have thought that I would be like, yeah, I I'm
looking forward to a Season 2. But yeah, genuinely not big on
season twos, especially for Korean dramas.
No, but this is basically a Western show.
Yeah. It, it kind of, it has all the
trappings of one. Yeah.
So, yeah, great. It's so hard to very good show,
Very good show. Very good show and I highly
recommend if you've come this far in the episode.
We've spoiled the whole thing, but go watch it for yourself on
Hulu or Disney Plus wherever you can get a hold of it.
If you're in the States, it should be Hulu.
If you're outside Disney Plus, I don't know, but Rico, that's it.
You've come to the end of the show.
Yes, we have. Thank you for watching movie
with me. Yes, thank you for first
recommending. Watching it and having me on the
show to talk about it was a lot of fun.
Oh, I'm so glad you feel that way.
Well, we're just going to get out of here.
This has been our show. I'm Jessica.
And I'm Rico. This has been the Tivaki Rambles
podcast.