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I'm Jessica and this is Vivek. 
He Rambles were couple of 

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friends review Korean dramas and
we're back for another episode. 

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We're still in yesteryear and I 
have with me my two Two, good 

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friends, Kathy and Lauda from 
the ma 2K podcast. 

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How are you two? 
So happy to be here? 

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Yes, this is a bit of a 
reunions. 

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We haven't seen each other since
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And that was so much fun. 

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Yeah. 
And you guys went all over 

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Orlando like the day after it 
was like incredible. 

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I don't know. 
It was literally like we weren't

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even in Orlando for 24 hours. 
We went to eat k-pot, we got 

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ready for the concert, went to 
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day, we left the hotel, like, 
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and drove back home, like, it 
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So we had to make. 
So we were not even in town for 

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24 hours, we really weren't. 
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even that much. 
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things on my list of all. 
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there and I don't get to those 
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So you know it is what it is. 
You guys did the deed. 

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It was awesome. 
You did the thing and we're 

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going to be reviewing Dream High
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And I really wanted you guys to 
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particular, review this kdrama 
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influenced by the Kpop industry 
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where I learned a lot about the 
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that it is and so on and so 
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So I was like, I have to get to 
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like, oh perfect. 
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Dream High in multiple episodes,
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shows from these direct this 
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and this cast. 
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coming for us to cover, Dream 
High on the show, and I wanted 

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Thank you for being here. 
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So I'm going to I just get 
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There's not stop me. 
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anything in particular when it 
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shows that are going to crop up 
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covered on the podcast. 
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deeper well of knowledge when it
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these people especially the cast
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from the Kpop world. 
So Kathy, if you want to jump in

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at any point and say your piece 
on somebody like feel free. 

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Thank you so much for the yes. 
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and this is extremely 
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the first sentence of it Dream. 
High tells, the story of six 

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students at kid in art High 
School who work to achieve their

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dreams of becoming music stars 
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This show aired from January to 
February 2011, it is 16 episodes

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long and the director is Ian 
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He's directed things like Dream 
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this and we can talk a little 
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Secret Love descendants of the 
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We've covered it on the podcast 
Guardian, the lonely and great. 

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God aka the okay, be a massive, 
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Sunshine, which we've also 
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So these three bangers, three 
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from 2020 which is a Netflix, 
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and then Gigi sohn is his most 
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The Dream High show was written 
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Hey Ian and she's written, I can
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page-turner While You Were 
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Coincidentally, both of those 
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cover her first as like, I guess
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this ensemble cast Bae, Suzy 
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you don't know, was a member of 
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group. 
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uncontrollably fond Vagabond, 
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Netflix show called due no later
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startup. 
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Each of them that they're back 
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So we have Bae Suzy. 
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say, about Bae Suzy? 
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surprised about the director and
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that they had Had written all of
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you any kind of It's a little 
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sure a little bit. 
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all of a sudden the career took 
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a sudden he's like an amazing 
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But that's dramas were hits. 
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descendants of the sun, 
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Sunshine, sweet home. 
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around them. 
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Korea and the Holly wave and you
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I should say it shows. 
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because you could be on the 
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just putting out hit after hit 
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you working with big-name stars 
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Sunshine is one of the most high
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out there, and like a Prestige 
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So it's incredible, it really is
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thing that's like a little. 
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For those who don't know, Dream,
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got into maybe a couple of 
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for JB. 
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from Got7. 
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It was awful like Dream. 
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terrible shit when like it was a
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the first one, which is what 
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such a shame I guess. 
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book Rebounded. 
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like the Dream High versus 
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High 2 verses like is Dream 
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A good show. 
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talk about it a bit more. 
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director and the writer and Bae 
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six students. 
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playing song that song sung dong
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just covered My Love from the 
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which is a major like Holly wave
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Moon. 
Embracing the Sun, the producers

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crash-landing on you Cameo, it's
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Which is a huge one as well. 
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one Ordinary Day I low-key love 
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his career kind of picks up the 
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the top of his game, he had all 
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He was a top star and I just 
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necessarily like, I don't know, 
it's just me, I guess that's 

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wondering these things, but 
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Now we also have pick Ian as 
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don't know, he was a member of 2
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he's made a pretty successful 
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been in. 
Bring It On ghost, save me 

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Vincenzo, which was a huge sort 
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Vincenzo. 
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recently, Lee secret Royal 
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he's still working. 
He still around. 

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photos of like sets and like 
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stuff and he's around like, he's
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think he's pretty bankable, 
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Oh, keep going for sure. 
What's up? 

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Yes, I am hoping that that pans 
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think that he is a bankable 
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He's likable. 
He's very versatile and I think 

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I hope that he gets some 
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I remember, Like this is a kind 
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whenever when Jay Park signed 
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that was supposed to be like 
this huge thing and he was going

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to make a debut official debut 
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and whatever. 
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that it just like came and went 
and I hope that that's not with 

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a case for Tech. 
They don't have the same 

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problematic background. 
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That's not going to be the same 
case, for both of them and, you 

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know, Tech is very secretive. 
I don't, I mean, I, every KPop 

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star is secretive of their lives
and very protective of their 

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privacy as much as they can be. 
Like, I don't know anything 

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about tech, really. 
You know what I'm saying? 

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Yeah, yeah. 
I mean, he hasn't all we need to

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know is that he has an 
alienated, like an entire group 

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of people that I talked 
constantly and that just, you 

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know, are not really ever. 
Going to move on from certain 

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things that were said or done or
whatever. 

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So I think he has a really 
bright future with this move of 

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signing to do work here and we 
talked about it in our kdrama 

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episode with you just that we 
were like, oh, you know, now 

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that packs of Jonah's going to 
do Marvel's. 

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Who else do we think is going to
really like breakout on the 

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west? 
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possibility because he speaks 
English and everything. 

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So it just seems like it's 
falling into place as it should.

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So yeah. 
So for that, hoping praying for 

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the best for you to check if 
your Listening for some reason. 

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Okay. 
So then we have its private time

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and he just listens to kdrama 
bond gets in his spare time. 

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Okay. 
So to round out the cast, we 

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have hum hum and Jung plays 
young, Becky. 

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And she was a member of Tiara 
and she's been working but she's

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really just done like weekend 
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We can dramas are High episode, 
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sometimes over 100 episodes and 
so she's been steadily working 

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but I don't think she's 
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impact on the kdrama industry as
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I don't think she's very 
memorable and we have wooyoung 

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as Jason. 
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this is literally the only thing
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This is only acting credit ever 
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And then to round out the cast, 
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if you've heard of a Jian. 
AKA I, you she plays kimpo suck 

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and she's major major solo star 
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She's just amazing. 
I've called her the fairy 

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princess or very goddess before 
and various episodes. 

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She's been in shows, like you 
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Moon lover Scarlet REO which 
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season. 
She's been in my Mr. Which we 

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did a couple of seasons ago, 
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which is a pretty big show. 
What do you have anything to say

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about these three? 
I understand why, why we on the 

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knocked over again, I was gonna 
say the same thing. 

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It does. 
It does it makes it really done.

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Can we just talk about our 
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We're about to get into it 
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end of like our ensemble cast of
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caregivers and teachers that are
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that you've I've seen in other 
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just going to call it for for 
now. 

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What? 
I don't know who wants to go 

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first, but what did you guys 
think of Dream High? 

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Laura has watched it twice so I 
think she can go first. 

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Oh okay loud Echo. 
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personally have this like genre 
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aren't very good kind of really 
cringey but I really enjoy them 

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in their cringe and Dream High 
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I think in my opinion what saves
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difference between Dream High 
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like even though Not all six or 
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Most of them were, and that's 
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they sell this writing this 
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cringe-inducing goose-bumpy 
feeling and they, you know, they

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sell it, they give it, they give
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you're like, okay, this is 
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it. 
They cry really prettily. 

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Like it's just, I I think what 
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The actors not gonna lie? 
The watching it a second time. 

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The crunch went up like four 
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fast-forwarding. 
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was a little bit more painful. 
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definitely for me, one of those 
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you're going through a hard time
and you don't want to think 

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about anything and then never 
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Like, Got you, got you so who 
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actors? 
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based on the six, you know, 
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talked about who are for all 
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right? 
An idol drama and which ones 

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were the standouts for you? 
I think. 

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Well, I mean, you could tell I 
you was gonna go places like 

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she, you could tell I liked. 
How are you? 

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You acted. 
I liked Zoo, Khao suan. 

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How do you say? 
So, here's Kim. 

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Soo Yung. 
I like him too young and I like 

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taking I mean you could tell it 
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could tell he was going to 
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I'm not quite sure about Susie 
what! 

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Hmm well we talked about it. 
So Kathy over you this is your 

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first time watch of dream hide. 
This was my first and my last I 

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will start there. 
So okay. 

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Before I would have said that I 
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because like people would argue 
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I can always see where people 
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argue that The Devil's Advocate 
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why it's good or why, whatever? 
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with Dream High. 
I was surprised, I was scared to

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come and share my opinions here 
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cult classic and such a, you 
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All cultural impact, whatever 
that I didn't want people to 

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come for me. 
Not that I exist at all in any 

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way, sort of anything but it was
really hard for me to finish the

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show and I usually finish 
everything that I start with 

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like movies and stuff. 
Just out of curiosity of how 

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it's going to pan out. 
I had a really hard time with 

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the writing. 
I had a really hard time with 

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the acting. 
I had a really hard time with 

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the filming I I had a really 
hard time finding redeeming 

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things to say about the show and
I finished it exclusively 

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because we were doing this 
episode with you which we are. 

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So thankful to that you invited 
us over over virtually to talk 

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about it but and with all that 
said, I'm still grateful that 

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now I know what it is so I can 
be in the conversation whenever 

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it comes up so roasted but I'll 
be in the conversation to roast 

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it. 
Oh God. 

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Okay. 
So I mean, I kind of want to 

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talk more about like what what 
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I don't know if I have time. 
I'll say, my thoughts and we can

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come Circle back to some of the,
like, General terrible Miss of 

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the show. 
So, and I'm sorry, it's whiny 

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fans. 
I would just want to clarify. 

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This is just an opinion. 
I am nobody, don't worry about 

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me, like, That's it. 
So yeah again like I never show.

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I guess we should have a 
disclaimer that these are our 

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opinions, it's completely 
subjective. 

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You don't need to freak out 
about anything that we say were 

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not the Arbiters of taste here, 
okay. 

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Like we're just having fun. 
It's we're all here to have fun.

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So, Dream High, I had watched it
I think into around 2012 or 

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2013. 
It was probably one of the first

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like, in the first 25 kdramas 
that I I'd ever watched early on

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and I was not too far removed 
from the time period that they 

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had filmed it and from this era 
of Kpop, right? 

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Like this is kind of when I 
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had heard like a couple of 2 
p.m. songs and I had heard like 

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one miss a song and I you know I
was like baby Kpop fan and just 

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dipping my toes into it and then
I get to see Dream High and I 

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was like this It's a whole new 
world like this is nothing like 

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the industry here in the states 
where you like it's all based on

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like Glock or who you know, and 
there's not all this bureaucracy

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I guess or trainee process. 
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really was like eye-opening for 
me and even though there's like 

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giant differences between how 
its portrayed and Dream High and

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how it really is in the industry
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Yes they are. 
Are taught in classes and 

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having, you know, showcases and 
exhibitions and things with the 

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grated on like that is all 
pretty par for the course, true 

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of the Kpop industry and the 
trainee process and I was like 

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stunned out of my mind that this
was true like for it all 

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intensive purposes, it is true. 
Not that there's a cure in high 

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school. 
That's Outsourcing, you know, 

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trade he's into the companies, 
but You know, it was it was very

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eye-opening for me and I 
remember feeling a little bit 

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cringy about some things and I 
was like, this isn't like the 

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a-plus-plus writing like I was 
at for some reason I was just 

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like I'm still in my Boys Over 
Flowers era, right? 

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So I was very forgiving of a lot
of things and didn't necessarily

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feel that strongly about the 
puzzle pieces that make up a 

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great drama, great TV show, or a
great thing. 

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Film or something like that. 
Something to that effect. 

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So that wasn't concerned 
necessarily with the sound 

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mixing was horrendous. 
Oh, my hearing, why am I hearing

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all kinds of horrible? 
Horrible, horrible sound mixing 

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the cinematography is, like, 
non-existent. 

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It felt like they shot this on, 
like a digital camera micro we 

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think. 
Yeah. 

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I was like Overexposed and 
terrible and like the actual 

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Editing of it, like the shots 
were too long in so many 

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instances. 
I was like, why is this shot 

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still continuing, the pacing of 
the dialogue was terrible. 

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I was like, there's like beats 
here. 

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It's awkward like they this 
needs to be edited. 

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This needs to be like tone, you 
know, tightened up in the script

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and I was a very on this watch. 
I was like, this is awful. 

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Like, you know, all of these 
puzzle pieces, make up my 

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opinion of your show and And I 
was like, this is terrible. 

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But one thing that I didn't 
dislike about the show one thing

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that stayed the same from my 
initial watch was how much I 

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admired the heart of the 
characters and this General 

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message of follow your dreams 
like do whatever you can work 

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hard, you know, you'll achieve, 
what you what you set out to do,

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your Ambitions are you know, 
valid and all of this stuff. 

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So like it was very preachy like
even on this Around. 

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I was like, this is the 
prettiest message and they keep 

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saying it over and over again. 
Music brings us together, music 

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is a universal language and like
all of this hokey like 

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messaging, you know, hit me as 
way more cringe this time. 

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But at the end of the day, 
that's what people I think. 

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Connect to in Dream High is like
this heart and this this feeling

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that, you know, they can do it, 
it's very aspirational. 

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Well, I think for a lot of 
people not just, if you suddenly

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want to be a creative and want 
to get into the music industry 

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or want to be a professional 
dancer, what have you like? 

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It's kind of goes far beyond 
that and I think it might even 

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dip into just the culture of 
Korea, right? 

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Like here if we see a movie like
I don't know like a mission 

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impossible or something like 
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Like that's a very action-heavy 
that's very aspirational for a 

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lot of people were like, yeah, I
can do this. 

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Beat the got the bad guy I can 
save the world. 

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Like that's kind of embedded 
into like our DNA of like the 

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Air Force One, get off my plane.
Like, there's also like all of 

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these other facets of like, 
americanism that's in the movies

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that we watch here in the west 
and in Korea, this Kpop show 

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that did very well when it aired
and sort of launched. 

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All of these careers. 
Like, I feel like people, I'll 

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have a lot of nostalgia and good
feelings toward it because of 

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the messaging. 
And not just because of the set 

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dressing of it, not necessarily 
because they're putting drawing 

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giant stars on their eyes. 
And like, that's trendy not like

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it's if we're talking about the 
way that it's aged, it's aged 

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terribly in that respect. 
But, you know, I think it's, I 

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think it's cute. 
I think it's feel good. 

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I agree with that sentiment of 
the cuteness and the message. 

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And I understand why people like
that. 

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And why people might gravitate 
towards a feel-good thing of 

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like, if you work hard, you will
get the results that you're 

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after kind of thing. 
I understand that, for me, I 

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guess the problem lies with the 
fact that when we watch movies 

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or listen to music or watch a 
kdrama, there's something about,

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we're all looking for that. 
Suspension of disbelief moment, 

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we want to be transported to 
that moment. 

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And forget that like you are 
living in 2023 and you know 

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whatever is happening in the 
world wherever you are and 

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geographically speaking. 
I was not able to do that 

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because of all the other things 
that were happening at all 

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times. 
Everytime jyp came on the screen

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suspension of disbelief over 
like you know like it was it was

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every time that I was trying to 
kind of just like give it a 

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chance and get wrapped into the 
storyline, something would 

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happen. 
Either the sound mixing or the 

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shots or the cinema, something 
that I was just like, why is 

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this a thing? 
And I also I mean I think just 

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to give it I guess a couple of 
positive spins here and there 

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the first three to four episodes
are really badly shot, but it 

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gets better like the filming 
gets better after the fourth or 

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fifth episode. 
Those kinds of things improve. 

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And obviously, the chemistry of 
the cast is a whole also 

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improves as the as the show 
goes. 

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And I have to Say suhyun's 
acting. 

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Like I wish there was like maybe
two or three things that kept me

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alive. 
While I was watching the show, 

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one of them, was two hands 
acting. 

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Like he is incredible. 
I started looking into all of 

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his life and like II, the usual 
Obsession that kind of grows in 

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me when I start liking someone 
from Astro, or from a, like, 

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music or anything happen only 
with him, I already like text 

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icon already know stuff about 
him, I use same. 

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But from this show, he was the 
only one that I was like, I want

442
00:28:54,900 --> 00:28:56,900
to know more and I want to know 
What else has happened with 

443
00:28:56,900 --> 00:28:58,500
them? 
And what other works he's done 

444
00:28:58,500 --> 00:29:00,000
because I need to watch more of 
him. 

445
00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:02,900
Hmm. 
So I guess that's my thing. 

446
00:29:02,900 --> 00:29:08,700
Is just the quality of the shoe 
and all the other elements that 

447
00:29:08,700 --> 00:29:12,700
are usually, therefore either 
comedy or just keeping it light 

448
00:29:12,900 --> 00:29:15,200
didn't really work for me and 
that's my thing. 

449
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,300
Yeah. 
Yeah no suspension of disbelief 

450
00:29:18,300 --> 00:29:20,800
for me. 
Absolutely you're absolutely 

451
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,200
right and hitting it on the head
of especially with jyp in the 

452
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:30,700
show How do I put this? 
I girl, I have thoughts. 

453
00:29:31,900 --> 00:29:36,600
I mean, let's talk about it 
because jyp is first of all, the

454
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:42,900
drama is co-produced by Bae 
yong-joon ski East and jyp of 

455
00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:44,900
jyp entertainment, Park 
jinyoung. 

456
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:51,600
And then he also acts as like 
the music director for like the 

457
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,100
large swaths of the show. 
Bae yong-joon, I don't know. 

458
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,500
If you and I can have a face to 
go with any, that's my Oppa for 

459
00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:02,800
life of. 
Yes him, I needed more of him in

460
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:03,900
the show. 
They took him away. 

461
00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:06,400
He was like the only good thing 
that they had going for me and 

462
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,900
bro. 
So I forgot completely that. 

463
00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:12,700
I had this other dude, come in 
and he was like the principal 

464
00:30:12,700 --> 00:30:17,700
and like chairman of this Kirin 
Art School or whatever and then 

465
00:30:17,700 --> 00:30:20,800
he like completely takes himself
off the playing board and he's 

466
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,000
gone, you never see him again in
the show. 

467
00:30:23,500 --> 00:30:26,200
This is the male lead from the 
iconic. 

468
00:30:26,300 --> 00:30:31,400
Her Sonata drama if you, if 
you've seen that drama in the 

469
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,000
kdrama. 
So for him to be in the show and

470
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,300
then this was his first show in 
three years. 

471
00:30:39,300 --> 00:30:42,600
So this one ramanujan not seeing
this guy for like three years 

472
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,800
and then all of a sudden he 
shows up at Dream, High for like

473
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,400
45 episodes and then just like, 
fuck sake. 

474
00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:51,300
Even bro, that's all the budget 
covered for honest. 

475
00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:53,800
Yeah, it's giving that it's 
giving we had. 

476
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,100
But yeah, so bring this huge 
star for two. 

477
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,900
Episodes. 
And that's it. 

478
00:30:57,900 --> 00:31:04,900
Yeah, so he was a co-producer on
the on Dream High and then jyp 

479
00:31:04,900 --> 00:31:11,300
obviously was heavily involved. 
They like the winter Sonata guy,

480
00:31:11,300 --> 00:31:13,300
or whatever, for lack of a 
better term. 

481
00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:16,700
If you guys can't lie, don't 
have a face, the winter, Sonata 

482
00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:20,600
male lead guy, he was creative 
producer on the on Dream High, 

483
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,500
he provided the overall concept 
the goals, the ideas and then 

484
00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:26,100
jyp came in and compose the 
music. 

485
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,300
Zurich and choreographed the 
dance for the series. 

486
00:31:28,300 --> 00:31:35,300
So it down you can freaking tell
that this is what happened, you 

487
00:31:35,300 --> 00:31:41,100
know, like he's jyp the 
influence that he had on the 

488
00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:45,000
show behind the scenes. 
Great not taking anything away 

489
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,300
from that him in front of the 
camera I'm like offended. 

490
00:31:48,300 --> 00:31:54,600
Like to this day, I The fact 
that he put himself in the drama

491
00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:59,200
it's has like awful. 
It's like heavily the fact that 

492
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,600
he just did a like a little mini
tour in the state's. 

493
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,400
It's like his delusion has not 
worn off but he can't do certain

494
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,600
things that he really shouldn't 
try in the first place. 

495
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,800
But really it's like, you know, 
it felt at some point and I if 

496
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,200
he were more self-aware, which I
don't think he is based on the 

497
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,800
fact that he even did a show and
in New York and California, the 

498
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,800
fact that he It almost felt like
he was doing a caricature of 

499
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,700
himself like yeah, like a 
self-deprecating character that 

500
00:32:28,700 --> 00:32:31,200
kind of played on the 
stereotypes that people had of 

501
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,000
him at the time, you know. 
So it's like, oh, maybe he's, 

502
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,300
like, in on the joke. 
No, like it, just as a show 

503
00:32:38,300 --> 00:32:39,900
evolved. 
And as he did more things, I'm 

504
00:32:39,900 --> 00:32:43,800
like the amount of airtime and 
screen time, that was dedicated 

505
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,400
to his dance sequence and his 
singing. 

506
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,600
It's like Mama. 
Pull the plug someone, turn the 

507
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,500
camera off. 
Yeah, please, it's not. 

508
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:52,900
Not good. 
It. 

509
00:32:52,900 --> 00:32:57,400
Yeah, it wreaked of him being 
like an extreme narcissist and 

510
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:02,200
couldn't give the Limelight to 
these kids who are his own true.

511
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,500
A lot of them were his own 
trainees, his discover them 

512
00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:09,600
like, or nurtured them, or 
whatever debut them out of jyp 

513
00:33:10,300 --> 00:33:13,700
entertainment and still, he 
decides to be in the drama, and 

514
00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:15,800
this was his acting debut. 
It wasn't like he was an 

515
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,400
established actor. 
Anything this was the first time

516
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:24,400
you ever see jyp in a show Tara 
he said coach the coach put me 

517
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,400
in and he put himself in as what
happened. 

518
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:32,900
It's a new kind of see like a 
tech and the rest of the actors.

519
00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:36,600
Like as much as they were trying
to do good acting, they would 

520
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,900
break any time. 
He was on the screen because 

521
00:33:38,900 --> 00:33:40,300
they just could see the full of 
shit. 

522
00:33:40,300 --> 00:33:43,000
And I was like, just coming 
through their, their suspension,

523
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,900
of disbelief also was not 
working right random and I said,

524
00:33:46,900 --> 00:33:54,300
yeah, it felt it felt to me, 
personally, I have now an 

525
00:33:54,300 --> 00:33:58,000
obsession with understanding the
behind the scenes of the inner 

526
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,400
workings of the Kpop industry 
and knowing what I know now and 

527
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,800
knowing what I know of jyp. 
And knowing, you know, the 

528
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,400
mismanagement of the group's, 
I'm his agency in general, to 

529
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,400
not name any group specifically.
But most importantly, Got7, and 

530
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,000
my heart. 
Seeing him on the show. 

531
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,699
Felt like he was on this kind of
redemption tour and trying to 

532
00:34:20,699 --> 00:34:24,000
portray Himself thinking that 
people would believe that thing 

533
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:29,900
as this like good director 
Company, CEO person that always 

534
00:34:29,900 --> 00:34:32,400
wanted to look for the talent 
and it doesn't matter. 

535
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,400
The looks. 
All that matters is the hard 

536
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,800
work and this is and I'm just 
like you cannot be more full of 

537
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,500
shit. 
Like you get off my TV right 

538
00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:42,900
now, you know, that was 
something that came up. 

539
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:45,800
That was something that came up 
in the comments section of a few

540
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,199
tick tocks that I posted was 
that people were saying, jyp is 

541
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:54,199
such a hypocrite and like, I 
absolutely 100% get it because 

542
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:58,400
if you watch the show, the way 
that his characters crafted is, 

543
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,600
he's like an advocate for the 
kids, and for their talent and 

544
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,300
it doesn't matter what you look 
like. 

545
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,000
It doesn't matter that I use 
pills. 

546
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,400
Look is overweight. 
It doesn't matter. 

547
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,500
She has the talent. 
She has the voice. 

548
00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:13,700
She can make it in the industry.
You shouldn't be trying to 

549
00:35:13,700 --> 00:35:17,200
change these kids. 
They're good the way they are. 

550
00:35:17,700 --> 00:35:21,900
And like all of that messaging 
that's tied into His character 

551
00:35:21,900 --> 00:35:26,200
is being this like righteous. 
You know, holier-than-thou 

552
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:31,800
person is flies right in the 
face of everything that he 

553
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,000
stands for and has built under 
jyp entertainment. 

554
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:42,000
And all of the changes that he's
made to his lineup of trainees, 

555
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,800
and debut debut. 
I don't dip debutantes or 

556
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,900
whatever all the groups that 
he's launched. 

557
00:35:47,900 --> 00:35:52,200
And the, the artist that he's 
Third and stuff like that. 

558
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,900
Sure he's probably doing a lot 
of good, but yes, he's done a 

559
00:35:54,900 --> 00:36:00,000
fuck ton of harm and has created
that system that they're trying 

560
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,000
to rail against with his 
character in Dream High. 

561
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,900
So I can understand why people 
are upset, not necessarily that 

562
00:36:07,900 --> 00:36:10,100
he's just a bad actor. 
The characters shoehorned into 

563
00:36:10,100 --> 00:36:12,200
her wise jyp and his own fucking
show. 

564
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,000
The fact that he's also like, 
spewing all of this. 

565
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:20,900
Revisionist nonsense is also 
deeply offensive. 

566
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,000
Yeah, I think we know who you 
are and he was trying to sell 

567
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,800
this thing to us, but he wasn't 
bad. 

568
00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:29,200
And it's just now even more 
offensive like ten plus years 

569
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,500
later that it's only gone worse,
right? 

570
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,900
Right. 
And with, In the show you could 

571
00:36:35,900 --> 00:36:41,200
see who his favorite were like 
the fact that he included. 

572
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,800
Susie, he included Justice two 
members from 2 p.m. like you 

573
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,900
could tell that he was trying to
sell specifically. 

574
00:36:50,300 --> 00:36:53,900
Yeah, mostly Susie. 
But then like, you know, threw 

575
00:36:53,900 --> 00:36:59,300
in some 2 p.m. members, just to 
kind of like mmm, Yeah, not look

576
00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:01,200
so bad. 
I guess it's a commercial for 

577
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:06,900
jyp entertainment and that's 
what's unnerving. 

578
00:37:06,900 --> 00:37:11,400
About the whole thing is that 
you can't like divorce yourself 

579
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:16,500
from the concept of jyp's, not 
just trying to Rebrand himself, 

580
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,800
only a few years into what 2nd 
gen Kpop, but he's also trying 

581
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:26,700
to introduce audiences and have 
sort of like a Groundswell 

582
00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:30,400
effect for these artists that. 
He's launching that are just a 

583
00:37:30,408 --> 00:37:35,300
few years into their career and 
might not be household names. 

584
00:37:35,300 --> 00:37:38,200
Like they are now like I feel 
like Tech and Suzy and Kim 

585
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,100
Soo-hyun like all these people 
and I you like don't literally 

586
00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:43,700
hi. 
These are household names now 

587
00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:45,900
maybe in part because of Dream 
High. 

588
00:37:45,900 --> 00:37:48,900
But mostly because they just 
they're amazing. 

589
00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:52,400
Like they have the talent, they 
have the giftings of someone 

590
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,800
that was going to go far in the 
first place and I don't know if 

591
00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:00,600
we should think jyp necessarily.
For, or if we should still like,

592
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,200
you know, shit on him. 
But like honestly it is quite a,

593
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,600
an experience to watch Dream 
High knowing what, you know now,

594
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,400
and knowing how their careers, 
turned out. 

595
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,500
Everyone's careers, I'm not 
gonna go as far as thanking him.

596
00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:16,700
I'll say even a broken clock is 
right, twice a day, and this far

597
00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:19,500
as I'm gonna go with giving him 
any sort of credit for anything.

598
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,000
Hmm. 
So I'm so glad that we talked 

599
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,100
about the dyp of it all. 
Get out of the way, so we, yeah.

600
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,000
Yeah, Glenn's are focused on 
after other things. 

601
00:38:30,700 --> 00:38:33,100
Yeah. 
So why mention Kim soohyun. 

602
00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:37,100
He is the only member of the 
ensemble cast who was not an 

603
00:38:37,100 --> 00:38:39,400
idol. 
In still, is not an idle. 

604
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:44,500
Never was part of a group or 
anything but he did train for 

605
00:38:44,500 --> 00:38:47,500
three months at jyp 
entertainment, in order to 

606
00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:51,600
portray this role. 
Well and kind of hone in on his 

607
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:56,900
singing and dancing. 
So that's a very admirable to go

608
00:38:56,900 --> 00:38:59,100
three months. 
I mean, I don't know if they put

609
00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:02,500
him through like the ringer 
necessarily but you know, I'm 

610
00:39:02,500 --> 00:39:06,800
sure that it was difficult. 
Difficult thing. 

611
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:10,800
Do you guys have anything to 
else? 

612
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,500
Adds? 
I have a little more fun facts 

613
00:39:12,500 --> 00:39:15,000
about the show. 
No, okay. 

614
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,600
So like I said before, I was 
really the drift of the show was

615
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,200
popular, especially popular 
among teenagers and the average 

616
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,100
viewership ratings were about 
15.7% during its two-month run. 

617
00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:28,900
And I don't know if you got 
Around to watching this, I 

618
00:39:28,908 --> 00:39:32,200
didn't have time to watch the 
special episode episode 17. 

619
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,800
I watched a chunk of it, 
unfortunately. 

620
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,100
Dead. 
Okay. 

621
00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:37,200
Couldn't couldn't bring myself 
to do it. 

622
00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:49,600
Not the first time not the 
second time we're making faces 

623
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,100
here, guys. 
Yeah. 

624
00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:55,700
So the cast of the show 
performed in a special concert 

625
00:39:56,100 --> 00:39:59,700
in Seoul and that was aired, the
After the series ended and 

626
00:39:59,700 --> 00:40:02,500
that's episode 17. 
I have to this day. 

627
00:40:02,500 --> 00:40:06,200
I don't think I've ever watched 
episode Just Clips here and 

628
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,500
there, but not well, produced, 
two home surprised. 

629
00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:12,200
Nobody's it's not like the, you 
know, the games and stuff, 

630
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,700
there's awkwardness. 
There's just it's not good. 

631
00:40:14,900 --> 00:40:17,900
I watch like maybe 20 minutes of
it because once the show ended, 

632
00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:19,400
I was like, did I really am like
this? 

633
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,700
Like this is it like there's no,
like nothing else. 

634
00:40:21,700 --> 00:40:23,800
That's that's where you're gonna
have, like, whatever? 

635
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,000
I'm like you guys thought 
through this. 

636
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,000
Like I sat through it and this 
is how you're going to freaking 

637
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,200
I like pay me back kind of 
thing. 

638
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,700
So, at some point I was like, I 
can't, so I stopped. 

639
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,600
Yeah, okay. 
Well, fair enough, I kind of had

640
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,100
the same feeling when I was 
like, you know what? 

641
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:41,600
This is that's enough. 
Do I need to watch episode 17? 

642
00:40:41,700 --> 00:40:46,200
No, I don't think I do. 
It's not required reading, but 

643
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,900
like I said, that the show did 
pretty well, like when it aired 

644
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,300
and it won a bunch of KBS drama 
awards, like best supporting 

645
00:40:54,300 --> 00:40:59,700
actress for Eun Ji. 
Best new actor, in popularity, 

646
00:40:59,700 --> 00:41:02,900
award for Kim Soo-hyun, best new
actress for Bae Suzy. 

647
00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:05,600
Well, I will say the second 
reason. 

648
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,900
So, the first thing that kept me
alive, was suing on the second 

649
00:41:08,900 --> 00:41:13,300
thing was even, geez acting, 
like I loved her, I hate who she

650
00:41:13,300 --> 00:41:16,700
became at the end of the show. 
She actually had like all the 

651
00:41:16,700 --> 00:41:18,800
substance. 
I was like the evil stepmother 

652
00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:24,500
teacher person and then love. 
I don't know when she became 

653
00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:26,300
this. 
Like something good is 

654
00:41:26,300 --> 00:41:28,000
happening, and I'm just going to
cry. 

655
00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:31,100
I 45 minutes for no. 
Absolute like reason, and the 

656
00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:33,500
whole like clipping in the 
flower thing on. 

657
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,000
Oh, yeah. 
Oh yeah. 

658
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,000
Oh mama like no. 
Yeah, this is, she was one of 

659
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,400
the teachers in the show, for 
those who don't know, she was 

660
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,200
teacher. 
She and she was like a freaking 

661
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,800
badass, the bad at all the 
bodies. 

662
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,200
Yes. 
And her hairstyle was like, kind

663
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,500
of like slightly before it was 
cool to do that like hairstyle. 

664
00:41:57,100 --> 00:42:01,600
Yeah. 
She's like, Ian flag, stop 

665
00:42:03,700 --> 00:42:05,900
before. 
The can I speak to your manager?

666
00:42:05,900 --> 00:42:11,300
She had this like, cool. 
But yeah, and she's been in so 

667
00:42:11,300 --> 00:42:15,700
many shows like princess hours. 
She was a princess haemyeong. 

668
00:42:16,300 --> 00:42:20,800
She's been in the King. 
Two hearts, as a cameo, she's 

669
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,600
been in Revolutionary. 
Love the third charm. 

670
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,800
Extraordinary attorney Wu as 
jisoo. 

671
00:42:27,100 --> 00:42:28,200
My don't remember that 
character. 

672
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,500
You guys remember that 
character? 

673
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:32,700
I was looking into it too 
because I saw that pekerman and 

674
00:42:32,700 --> 00:42:35,800
she had like both been on that. 
Yeah and I was like I don't 

675
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,900
remember her, it doesn't really 
ring a bell because I was like 

676
00:42:38,900 --> 00:42:40,300
wow what a bad bitch I need to 
watch more. 

677
00:42:40,300 --> 00:42:43,100
So she was so like a second 
person that I looked into that I

678
00:42:43,107 --> 00:42:46,500
wanted to see more of her. 
I'll tell ya, I think that if 

679
00:42:46,500 --> 00:42:51,000
you watch her in Princess hours,
you'll enjoy her character. 

680
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,600
She's like a really strong sweet
prince at the completely 

681
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,300
opposite of her. 
Her character here and Dream 

682
00:42:57,300 --> 00:43:00,700
High, but I think she's 
wheelchair-bound as long as it's

683
00:43:00,700 --> 00:43:02,800
like make sense. 
I just want the character to 

684
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,800
make sense. 
Oh, you know, it she makes 

685
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,400
sense. 
And Princess hours, I definitely

686
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,000
liked her character. 
She's a pleasure in that. 

687
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:14,500
So she 14, what was it? 
Yeah, best supporting actress. 

688
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,400
Best new actress for Bae Suzy 
best. 

689
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,600
Couple award for Kim Soo-hyun, 
and Bae Suzy. 

690
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,600
And this is all the KBS drama 
awards. 

691
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,000
The show was nominated for a 
bunch more, including a bunch of

692
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,200
back song Awards. 
They did not win any better. 

693
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,700
On the wards but they were 
nominated which is a big deal in

694
00:43:29,700 --> 00:43:33,500
and of itself. 
The sequel, like I said, aired a

695
00:43:33,508 --> 00:43:36,300
year later with a different 
cast. 

696
00:43:36,300 --> 00:43:43,500
Sorry, Kang soda, got7's JB and 
jinyoung 2am's jinwoon, Tiaras 

697
00:43:43,500 --> 00:43:49,500
jinyo Jian and sisters, Hulan a 
lie and park Puck. 

698
00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:52,100
So June like Park seojun was in 
Dream High 2. 

699
00:43:54,800 --> 00:44:01,100
Start somewhere Dream, High was 
adapted into a Japanese stage 

700
00:44:01,100 --> 00:44:03,200
Musical. 
And speaking of musicals, they 

701
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,300
have announced that it's going 
to be a stage musical in Korea. 

702
00:44:08,100 --> 00:44:11,100
It's supposed to open this year,
I don't know if that's still 

703
00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:13,600
happening, if they're working 
towards that or if it's just 

704
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,900
going to be like surprise here 
it is. 

705
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,000
But yeah, that's a it's quite a 
legacy that it has. 

706
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,200
You're not what I wondered while
I watched it because the Thing 

707
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:29,400
that I did talk with loud about 
is like, she knows that I can't 

708
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,500
do cringe and and and she knew 
that I wasn't going to like the 

709
00:44:33,500 --> 00:44:38,500
show because of that. 
So what I wondered in a few 

710
00:44:38,500 --> 00:44:43,600
times like of the moments of the
show did have some solid just 

711
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,900
grounding woman's. 
There is what if it had been 

712
00:44:46,900 --> 00:44:49,900
done in 2022. 
Uh-huh. 

713
00:44:49,900 --> 00:44:54,900
With love all play treatment 
like if it had been With that 

714
00:44:55,100 --> 00:44:59,900
writing style with that camera 
style with that acting style. 

715
00:45:00,500 --> 00:45:04,000
I don't think I would have had 
such a hard time watching it as 

716
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,200
I as you know, what it was again
it's just me because clearly 

717
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,800
like it did well when it when it
came out. 

718
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,400
And also I looked for other 
negative reviews because I felt 

719
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,100
very alone and I was like, I 
feel like I'm the only person 

720
00:45:18,100 --> 00:45:20,200
who's ever going to say anything
negative about the show and I 

721
00:45:20,207 --> 00:45:23,200
was like, I don't want to be 
cancelled at this point in my 

722
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,100
life. 
But and I really couldn't find 

723
00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:27,400
any negative reviews. 
Like, I mean, I'm not going to 

724
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,900
say I look for hours but I look 
like just briefly. 

725
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,800
Yeah and yeah, I couldn't find 
anything but I really was 

726
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,600
thinking if that show had been 
made today with the right 

727
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,700
budget, really? 
It's a problem and the right 

728
00:45:38,700 --> 00:45:40,800
people. 
It would have been better. 

729
00:45:41,900 --> 00:45:44,600
I think the people were right, 
like, the actors are right. 

730
00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:48,200
It was just, they were at the 
very beginning of their career. 

731
00:45:48,300 --> 00:45:53,100
I did YP was way too involved. 
So if you take away his grin 

732
00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:57,700
genus and like, I said, give it 
a whole different, like, backup,

733
00:45:57,700 --> 00:46:02,100
or like, sauces, it'd be pretty 
good. 

734
00:46:02,500 --> 00:46:06,900
I think some people wanted in 
the comments on Tick-Tock. 

735
00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:09,600
People were like, I hope they do
this with stray kids. 

736
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,100
Like, do a Dream High, like 
really targets immediately, 

737
00:46:14,900 --> 00:46:18,000
please. 
All right, I wanted to bring it 

738
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,500
up and see her reaction. 
Perfect. 

739
00:46:19,500 --> 00:46:21,400
So, you guys are like hell, no, 
no, no. 

740
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:26,000
Um, let our lotta friends who do
Like, the commercial acting keep

741
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,100
straight kids because they're 
doing great with those. 

742
00:46:28,100 --> 00:46:30,100
I love that for them, they're 
great for that. 

743
00:46:30,100 --> 00:46:32,900
They have the budget, they can 
do that, it's got you. 

744
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,400
Yeah, it's not that stray cats 
can act. 

745
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,500
Just to be clear. 
I think that they can act. 

746
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:42,100
I just don't want kdrama 
heaviness like cringy kdrama 

747
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:45,600
heaviness on. 
It was like to give an idea for 

748
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,200
people that are not gonna watch 
the show ever. 

749
00:46:49,700 --> 00:46:53,900
There is an entire TV Tropes 
dot-org article on the trope. 

750
00:46:54,100 --> 00:46:56,800
Is that are featured in Dream 
High which is pretty rare for 

751
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,400
them to do for a kdrama. 
I played a note about that how 

752
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,300
many tropes like it was. 
They were so sorry but it was. 

753
00:47:03,300 --> 00:47:05,100
Yeah. 
Single card with the tropes I 

754
00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:07,500
started scrolling through to see
if I could like include any in 

755
00:47:07,500 --> 00:47:09,100
the episode. 
I was like this is too many 

756
00:47:09,100 --> 00:47:14,100
troops to stay on a single, you 
know, podcast episode. 

757
00:47:14,100 --> 00:47:19,500
I was like, this is so so many 
atoms children, swim that a 

758
00:47:19,508 --> 00:47:21,700
character. 
It's not even like, even like 

759
00:47:21,700 --> 00:47:28,400
more like collectors. 
Like Niche ones, put on a bus. 

760
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,300
I didn't know that was a Trope 
and in-universe example 

761
00:47:31,300 --> 00:47:34,100
jinguk's, politician, dad aims 
to do this, to him, by sending 

762
00:47:34,100 --> 00:47:36,300
him out of the country, out of 
the country. 

763
00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:38,300
So that no one can find out. 
He abandoned, his might like, 

764
00:47:38,300 --> 00:47:43,100
that's a put on a bus Trope, 
thin here, punch a wall tro, 

765
00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:48,500
princess in rags, Trope, I'm 
telling you, it's endless Master

766
00:47:48,500 --> 00:47:53,000
of the mixed message Trope, love
triangle Trope. 

767
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,600
I mean, I mean It's endless. 
So I might link that in the show

768
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,900
notes in case, anybody is 
interested in seeing every 

769
00:47:59,900 --> 00:48:05,800
single trip, that Dream, High 
utilized throughout, and I'll 

770
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:21,400
ask quickly, it's like a like, a
novela like eight style is the 

771
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,800
way that it's shot. 
So maybe, Maybe you like that, 

772
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,900
so maybe you would like, maybe 
you like it. 

773
00:48:26,900 --> 00:48:29,300
I mean, I didn't like it. 
I didn't feel any type of way 

774
00:48:29,308 --> 00:48:31,600
about it. 
My parents would love it. 

775
00:48:31,700 --> 00:48:35,400
They love this type of Novella 
type that you like, only heirs 

776
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:40,200
around 4 p.m. or 7:00 p.m., oh, 
they love it, they love it. 

777
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,400
Yeah, I didn't feel any type of 
way about it. 

778
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,400
The first time I watched him 
high this time I was like this 

779
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:51,300
is unwatchable. 
But speaking of unwatchable, the

780
00:48:51,300 --> 00:48:53,600
last topic that I wanted to talk
about before we give her scores 

781
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,200
and get into spoilers was Bae 
Suzy, what did you think of 

782
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,700
basis? 
He's acting. 

783
00:49:01,700 --> 00:49:06,700
Personally, it wasn't bad, but 
it was just very, I mean, don't 

784
00:49:06,700 --> 00:49:08,700
get me wrong. 
Take you on was also kind of 

785
00:49:08,700 --> 00:49:14,800
OneNote, but he was, I love him.
So it's like there's no real 

786
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,800
reason but to hers was very just
one note throughout. 

787
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,200
And what I did appreciate is the
way that she could form. 

788
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,100
These really, really big, big 
tears that like, rolled down her

789
00:49:26,100 --> 00:49:28,300
face. 
I was like, damn girl you 

790
00:49:28,300 --> 00:49:31,300
hydrated. 
It's like Really big tears. 

791
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,300
I mean, I'm not quite sure if 
this was her first one. 

792
00:49:36,300 --> 00:49:38,200
I think it might be her first 
one. 

793
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,200
So you could. 
I mean, you could just tell that

794
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:47,600
they just didn't have a lot of 
Experience is indeed. 

795
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:52,200
The first thing that Susie has 
ever done, ever in her acting 

796
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,400
career. 
All of them, could cry really 

797
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:56,900
easily. 
And that's another note that I 

798
00:49:56,900 --> 00:49:59,500
was positive that I wrote like 
whatever acting training, they 

799
00:49:59,500 --> 00:50:01,900
received or whatever, trauma 
they've been to in their lives. 

800
00:50:01,900 --> 00:50:04,500
Like I feel bad for them because
of ability to cry on cue. 

801
00:50:04,900 --> 00:50:07,800
All of them was extremely 
impressive to me, because I'm 

802
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,000
like, I'm like, I know actors 
are trained for this, but even 

803
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,300
this level of crying, I was very
surprised with her. 

804
00:50:13,300 --> 00:50:16,400
I will tell you and this is 
about the character not about 

805
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,200
Susie, so please no one. 
Come for me. 

806
00:50:18,500 --> 00:50:21,300
What I wrote from episode one, 
at the end was no redeeming 

807
00:50:21,300 --> 00:50:23,200
qualities of than a sad story 
complete. 

808
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,600
Oh bitch, I hate her like that 
kind of person who just like is 

809
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,500
entitled to, like, everyone give
me my flowers just cuz I exist. 

810
00:50:31,500 --> 00:50:33,700
Like, I don't, I don't like 
those characters at all. 

811
00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:37,100
And the fact that at the end of 
the story, they tried to make 

812
00:50:37,100 --> 00:50:39,500
sense of it of like oh she's 
just a clone of her dad and 

813
00:50:39,500 --> 00:50:44,300
that's why she's the way she is.
Oh, true also doesn't math as a 

814
00:50:44,300 --> 00:50:48,900
reason for being the way she 
was, as far as Susie's acting it

815
00:50:48,900 --> 00:50:52,400
gave Kristen Stewart with like, 
oh, this is the face that I make

816
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,900
when I'm sad and this is the 
That I make when I'm happy and 

817
00:50:54,900 --> 00:50:59,200
whatever like it tried, they 
tried to make a comedic but I 

818
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,200
wasn't really even at the end 
when she had transformed and now

819
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,800
she was like, actually like 
allowing herself to feel things.

820
00:51:05,900 --> 00:51:09,600
It wasn't really there for me. 
So I okay was not a fan of her 

821
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,200
first acting job, but I'm 
looking forward to seeing what 

822
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:16,000
she's done more recently. 
The only acting part where I was

823
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:20,700
like, okay, I believe it was not
the only one, but one that's 

824
00:51:20,700 --> 00:51:24,100
really stuck to me was oh, but 
this is Ehlers. 

825
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,600
Okay, you know what will say 
that for spoilers? 

826
00:51:26,900 --> 00:51:30,100
I will just say my general 
thoughts about will jump right 

827
00:51:30,100 --> 00:51:34,200
back into Susie after spoilers. 
But my general thought on her 

828
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:40,100
acting in this was that I was 
Atrocious. 

829
00:51:41,500 --> 00:51:46,000
I thought I thought she was 
atrocious and like coming back 

830
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,500
to it. 
After seeing seeing other Susie 

831
00:51:48,500 --> 00:51:53,400
performances, I'm like either 
she's improved or she's done a 

832
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:59,100
really good job of hiding how 
bad she is at acting by being in

833
00:51:59,100 --> 00:52:02,800
great dramas. 
Mmm, because dramas better than 

834
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,900
she is watching her, but I had 
heard so many good things about 

835
00:52:05,900 --> 00:52:09,100
her, I think Also came in with 
pretty high expectations. 

836
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,900
So the shock and the fall was 
even harder for me when I 

837
00:52:12,900 --> 00:52:16,300
watched the acting here. 
So and we'll was sad for me, is 

838
00:52:16,300 --> 00:52:19,900
that I could see glimpses of 
other characters and other 

839
00:52:19,900 --> 00:52:24,400
acting performances that she's 
done since Dream High in Dream 

840
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,100
High. 
And I'm like, oh no, is it just 

841
00:52:27,100 --> 00:52:32,000
because she's a bad actress and 
she's sort of like, masking her 

842
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:38,000
inadequacies very well nowadays.
I was like, Thinking my entire 

843
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,200
opinion. 
Yeah, it's her inexperience 

844
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,000
acting with terrible writing is 
not good formula. 

845
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,300
True. 
It's not as she really didn't 

846
00:52:47,300 --> 00:52:49,700
have a lot to work with to be 
exact because of the bad 

847
00:52:49,700 --> 00:52:51,800
writing. 
So it was just a bad. 

848
00:52:52,100 --> 00:52:55,200
Yeah, I feel bad. 
I feel terrible. 

849
00:52:55,300 --> 00:52:58,400
But anyway, what would you give 
the show out of five Soldier 

850
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:03,700
bottles? 
Oh no. 

851
00:53:04,300 --> 00:53:06,800
Realistically like 
realistically? 

852
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:14,500
I think just let it fly anything
above a to his wrong but just 

853
00:53:14,500 --> 00:53:19,000
for like Nostalgia, I guess a 
three. 

854
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,600
But like anything above a 2 is 
wrong. 

855
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,700
In my personal opinion, I'm 
sorry Tyson. 

856
00:53:26,300 --> 00:53:31,100
I actually do like it, but if I 
have to be like II like the 

857
00:53:31,100 --> 00:53:34,500
drama and like this is the first
time that you watched it without

858
00:53:34,500 --> 00:53:36,800
anything of these, you know 
conversation. 

859
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:44,800
Oh the first time I watched it, 
I knew it was bad but again I 

860
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:52,400
have this really, really nice. 
Genre of movies or cage. 

861
00:53:52,500 --> 00:53:55,600
Dramas that I really enjoy the 
cringe. 

862
00:53:55,700 --> 00:53:58,700
Like the cringer it is the 
better like sometimes on 

863
00:53:58,700 --> 00:54:01,200
Netflix. 
I'll watch like the really 

864
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,800
cringey like Teenage stuff 
without like everyone's like it.

865
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,100
And I'm like, oh, this is 
terrible. 

866
00:54:06,100 --> 00:54:08,300
What am I doing? 
I questioned my whole life but I

867
00:54:08,308 --> 00:54:11,000
can't stop watching it and this 
is that. 

868
00:54:11,300 --> 00:54:16,400
So it ranks high in my personal 
but I know that it's not good. 

869
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,300
You like yeah, does that make 
sense? 

870
00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:20,600
Like I do? 
I do understand that completely.

871
00:54:20,700 --> 00:54:24,300
Yeah, well, okay for me. 
I had thought about if I wanted 

872
00:54:24,300 --> 00:54:27,500
to get cancelled by reading at a
one or if I was going to give it

873
00:54:27,500 --> 00:54:30,000
a 2 just for Who's Gonna Cancel 
you? 

874
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,000
I don't know. 
Girl, I just you know, social 

875
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,500
media makes me think things and 
I'm just scared of people but 

876
00:54:35,500 --> 00:54:39,300
okay, no I just honestly 
speaking, I was somewhere 

877
00:54:39,300 --> 00:54:42,000
between A1 and A2 like I'm not 
going to give it a 1.5. 

878
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:46,100
I think I could solidly say like
for me it's a 1025 unwatchable. 

879
00:54:46,100 --> 00:54:49,800
Would never recommend it to 
anyone that I like a pretty like

880
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,300
I respect it. 
I respect someone I would never 

881
00:54:52,500 --> 00:54:53,900
Be like you should watch stream 
high? 

882
00:54:53,900 --> 00:54:55,600
Like, no, go on. 
If you want to know what 

883
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,100
happened going, Wikipedia don't 
even watch a clip because it's 

884
00:54:58,100 --> 00:55:00,400
not worth it like clips of what 
the dancing. 

885
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:05,300
That was terrible. 
You know okay like it's a 1025 I

886
00:55:05,300 --> 00:55:07,600
said what I said, cancel me fuck
it. 

887
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,500
Oh wow. 
Okay so for me I think I'm going

888
00:55:11,500 --> 00:55:16,100
to give it a two and a half if 
you if I think of it on a good 

889
00:55:16,100 --> 00:55:18,800
day after listening to it like a
bunch of to p.m. songs and maybe

890
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,300
I'll give it a 3 out of 5 for 
this. 

891
00:55:22,500 --> 00:55:26,900
Nostalgia pure Nostalgia because
even after I watched Dream High 

892
00:55:26,900 --> 00:55:29,300
and if you look go back and 
listen to some other episodes 

893
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,800
Depok, where I talk about Dream 
High briefly, I'm like it's a 

894
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,800
joke, like it's a joke of a 
kdrama. 

895
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,100
It's not a true, right? 
Kdrama. 

896
00:55:39,100 --> 00:55:44,400
It is a tongue-in-cheek. 
These are Idols. 

897
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:49,100
It's an idol drama before. 
Like it was cool to be an idol 

898
00:55:49,100 --> 00:55:54,700
in a drama, you know, nothing. 
It is worst-case scenario. 

899
00:55:54,700 --> 00:55:58,100
I would say because they're 
playing to their strengths, 

900
00:55:58,100 --> 00:56:01,200
their playing affects families 
of themselves. 

901
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:05,800
And, you know, it's not heavy 
lifting at all for them. 

902
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,400
So maybe a three on a good day, 
but really, it's like a two and 

903
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,300
a half. 
Yeah, I had half out of five, so

904
00:56:12,300 --> 00:56:15,000
I'll give it five out of five 
bottles of Soju. 

905
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,500
In terms of, I would have to 
drink five bottles, to be able 

906
00:56:17,500 --> 00:56:23,100
to you know, just for Or so he 
owns eyes. 

907
00:56:23,100 --> 00:56:26,700
I'd give it a 5 out of 5. 
Do you know what the real gets a

908
00:56:26,700 --> 00:56:30,300
5 out of 5 for me, guess 10 out 
of five my God. 

909
00:56:31,900 --> 00:56:33,800
So good in this. 
Oh my God. 

910
00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:37,700
Alright, so we're just we're 
just about done with the general

911
00:56:37,700 --> 00:56:39,900
section. 
We're going to get into spoilers

912
00:56:40,300 --> 00:56:50,100
right after this. 
You want to come in. 

913
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,400
All right, we're on the other 
side of Let's jump back to Susie

914
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,000
and what allowed are you were 
talking about? 

915
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,800
This is going to be a bit of a 
spoiler. 

916
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:04,100
So why don't you show us the 
only time that I believed her? 

917
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:09,100
And this is only because she was
literally in her element was 

918
00:57:09,300 --> 00:57:15,300
when one of the exams came up 
and they had to emote, or sing 

919
00:57:15,300 --> 00:57:20,000
the song with like, emotion when
she sang that I believed her 

920
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:24,700
because she's a Singer and she's
literally been training to do 

921
00:57:24,700 --> 00:57:27,100
this. 
So when she sang it, I was like,

922
00:57:27,300 --> 00:57:30,300
okay. 
Like, if you could do this for 

923
00:57:30,300 --> 00:57:34,100
the rest of the look of the like
series, it's be great, but it 

924
00:57:34,100 --> 00:57:37,500
was just like a slight little 
moment where I was like, okay, 

925
00:57:37,700 --> 00:57:41,800
she has potential, but it was 
just her doing her job. 

926
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:45,200
So it was a pivotal moment for 
the character that I was a 

927
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,400
turning point for her. 
So it showed like she did it. 

928
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,100
Well, she played wounds with. 
Yeah. 

929
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:54,500
Yeah. 
But that's what all right there.

930
00:57:54,900 --> 00:57:57,700
And I'd have all the emotions 
looking at talking a face like 

931
00:57:57,700 --> 00:58:02,400
that, like, singing. 
Well thing, not just that back 

932
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,400
in my chair. 
Like, um, how do I put this? 

933
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:12,100
This show is maybe like a Cross 
between Step Up, High School 

934
00:58:12,100 --> 00:58:20,300
Musical and Camp Rock and the 
story, super obvious. 

935
00:58:20,300 --> 00:58:24,000
The conflicts are very clear. 
This drama doesn't do anything, 

936
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:28,400
terribly new, but it does tap 
into, like I said before, a lot 

937
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:32,500
of stuff that's positive about 
youth dramas or School, dramas. 

938
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,800
And that it's all about feels, 
it's all about heart. 

939
00:58:36,900 --> 00:58:39,300
And ultimately, the story is a 
nun. 

940
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,600
About an underdogs, it's an 
Underdog Story and we can all 

941
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:50,100
root for underdogs. 
So the I think in episode 1, 

942
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:54,200
they teased that there's this 
artist K whose we're going to 

943
00:58:54,207 --> 00:58:57,200
perform at the Grammys and he's 
a huge star. 

944
00:58:58,100 --> 00:59:03,700
The first Korean artists to 
perform at the Grammys and this 

945
00:59:03,700 --> 00:59:09,100
is in 2018 that is the present 
day. 

946
00:59:09,100 --> 00:59:12,600
I guess that were at the rest of
the shows a flashback 

947
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:19,000
essentially, but did any of you 
guess who artist K was I, when I

948
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:23,500
first watched it, no, I mean not
that very end, you realize who 

949
00:59:23,500 --> 00:59:26,200
it is? 
But no, I didn't. 

950
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:30,000
Okay, I thought I didn't group, 
I didn't person. 

951
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:34,400
So, I at first, it was just 
giving a lot of like the current

952
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,800
conversation with like South 
Korean talent and all the groups

953
00:59:38,100 --> 00:59:40,900
vying for American attention. 
So I thought it was like, 

954
00:59:40,900 --> 00:59:43,200
immediately from that, I didn't 
really like understand on the 

955
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,100
moment until the end that I was 
a solo person. 

956
00:59:46,100 --> 00:59:50,600
Yeah, I see. 
Okay, how sick of the pendant 

957
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,500
necklace? 
Did you get by the end of the 

958
00:59:52,500 --> 00:59:53,500
show? 
Girl? 

959
00:59:55,100 --> 00:59:57,900
I wanted it. 
I was like, yo, where's the 

960
00:59:57,900 --> 00:59:59,800
merch? 
Can I get a pendant? 

961
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,500
Like to be lucky for x amount of
time, please? 

962
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,900
I thought it was really ugly 
necklace too. 

963
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:09,200
Disgusting disgusting. 
It look like a, you know, an 

964
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:13,600
Olympics logo from 1998. 
Those like stuck in, just 

965
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,800
looking up and inform it look 
like, you know, now when kids 

966
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,900
the commercial like your kid can
draw an animal and we can bring 

967
01:00:20,900 --> 01:00:24,100
it to life, it looked like a 
director asks, his kids to do 

968
01:00:24,100 --> 01:00:27,200
like a Logo. 
And then they printed it like 3D

969
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:28,500
prints of it. 
Uh-huh. 

970
01:00:30,300 --> 01:00:32,800
I also thought this was funny 
that the in episode 1, the 

971
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,100
introduced Susie as an opera 
singer. 

972
01:00:35,300 --> 01:00:43,300
Oh awesome. 
I was like, what literally have 

973
01:00:43,300 --> 01:00:47,800
a note that says it's in. 
Spanish can lick it up. 

974
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:53,200
Susie get account and Oprah, 
don't know, no, but Kalama, who 

975
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,400
would believe she's singing it. 
She She's it. 

976
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,500
Oh my God, it was so bad. 
It was bad. 

977
01:00:58,700 --> 01:01:00,500
Is that? 
And then she got accepted into 

978
01:01:00,500 --> 01:01:04,400
Juilliard, you expect me to 
believe that I don't. 

979
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,700
So that's a question that I had 
watching this whole drama. 

980
01:01:08,900 --> 01:01:10,700
How old are they? 
So like, how old are they 

981
01:01:10,700 --> 01:01:13,600
supposed to be? 
Like, are they supposed to be 

982
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:17,500
just getting into High School? 
Are they at the end of high 

983
01:01:17,500 --> 01:01:20,600
school? 
So like Juilliard. 

984
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,700
What a 12? 
Like, no, they have to be tea. 

985
01:01:24,900 --> 01:01:28,600
M, I want to say like 17 or 18 
years old, which is why they can

986
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,300
be considered freshman because 
they still have a further two 

987
01:01:31,300 --> 01:01:34,000
years before they're considered 
adults, and they're 20 years old

988
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:38,600
and out of high school. 
So, I guess there H is 18 and 

989
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,200
going to Juilliard. 
I guess she doesn't need to 

990
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:45,500
finish her version of high 
school of the suspension of 

991
01:01:45,500 --> 01:01:50,100
disbelief at the end. 
Also, when like, oh your aunt, 

992
01:01:50,100 --> 01:01:52,800
got you a spot of Juilliard. 
Oh no, that's not how this 

993
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,300
works. 
Like that was terrible. 

994
01:01:54,300 --> 01:01:57,700
That's what I'm Saying like the 
the math wasn't mouthing the, 

995
01:01:57,700 --> 01:02:00,800
the eyes weren't daughter. 
The t's were not crossed like it

996
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,700
was impossible. 
How they were getting from point

997
01:02:03,700 --> 01:02:06,600
A to point B, every rent of 
this. 

998
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,000
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

999
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,100
The aunt had some art that we 
never see is like going to pay 

1000
01:02:11,100 --> 01:02:15,300
for her tuition and like, but 
you got her, the dead disappear 

1001
01:02:15,300 --> 01:02:19,400
so that this girl didn't have 
to, like, literally go into it. 

1002
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,100
No, it's not. 
It's very confusing. 

1003
01:02:22,100 --> 01:02:25,700
Overall, did you guys get 
excited with Kim hyung Young at 

1004
01:02:25,700 --> 01:02:30,700
the airport in episode 1. 
He's one of the members is Over,

1005
01:02:30,700 --> 01:02:32,700
Flowers F4. 
Did you get excited? 

1006
01:02:32,700 --> 01:02:37,300
Yeah, I'm just because just 
because I I really liked him, 

1007
01:02:37,700 --> 01:02:41,200
even though I hated the drama, I
just liked him. 

1008
01:02:41,500 --> 01:02:44,600
So, when I, when I saw him I was
like, okay, cute. 

1009
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,400
Don't know why you're there but 
cute. 

1010
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,700
Okay, I see ya. 
Did you recognize him Kathy? 

1011
01:02:50,900 --> 01:02:54,200
All right, that's fair. 
His career is basically done. 

1012
01:02:55,900 --> 01:03:00,900
I don't think he's done anything
recent look, you know, but he 

1013
01:03:00,900 --> 01:03:06,300
was a famous Alum of kid in arts
high school and that's how he 

1014
01:03:06,700 --> 01:03:09,100
looks like shoehorned into the 
drama. 

1015
01:03:11,100 --> 01:03:14,300
Very cool though, but Tech gets 
introduced. 

1016
01:03:14,300 --> 01:03:17,800
I thought Tech was so cool. 
Like from day one I was like 

1017
01:03:18,300 --> 01:03:22,200
text character. 
Is such a cool dude. 

1018
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:26,000
Like he's a bad bad boy 
archetype but with a heart of 

1019
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:31,300
gold and he saves Susie from 
these Thugs who like water to 

1020
01:03:31,300 --> 01:03:36,300
pay back her father's debt with 
her body and because that's a 

1021
01:03:36,300 --> 01:03:42,200
thing I guess and what is it? 
He starts jumping over cars and 

1022
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:46,700
in slow motion Crazy 88 like 
being with like 10 people coming

1023
01:03:46,700 --> 01:03:49,000
at you and you're like and got 
all of them. 

1024
01:03:51,300 --> 01:03:53,200
Yeah. 
You just doing parkour? 

1025
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,400
Oh God. 
Some of the references though 

1026
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:04,800
that they do for current K-pop 
stars or current artists are 

1027
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:08,700
like way dated because the debt 
collector dude who becomes like 

1028
01:04:08,700 --> 01:04:14,400
a Ally later in the show. 
He, yeah, he wants to use. 

1029
01:04:14,700 --> 01:04:21,100
He wants Susie to pay back the 
debt in by becoming a famous 

1030
01:04:21,100 --> 01:04:25,000
K-pop artists and debuting. 
He wants to To be famous like 

1031
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,800
Iggy OD. 
And I was like, whoa, that's 

1032
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:33,300
like Whiplash because that's a 
name that you don't even hear 

1033
01:04:33,300 --> 01:04:36,100
nowadays. 
Yo, D, you know? 

1034
01:04:36,900 --> 01:04:41,100
Yeah, it's dated. 
It's dated, but I don't know 

1035
01:04:41,100 --> 01:04:43,500
about you guys, but there was 
some needle drops that like I 

1036
01:04:43,500 --> 01:04:48,400
did end up listening to after 
the show finished and one of 

1037
01:04:48,408 --> 01:04:53,500
them happens in episode 2 where 
wooyoung is dancing outside of 

1038
01:04:53,500 --> 01:05:01,500
the audition Hall and the end. 
Is watching him do this like 

1039
01:05:01,500 --> 01:05:04,100
weird ass like dance routine? 
I, what I think weird, it's 

1040
01:05:04,100 --> 01:05:09,600
just, it's like, dated as hell 
like it's that's not considered 

1041
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,900
Stellar dancing by today's 
standard. 

1042
01:05:12,900 --> 01:05:21,100
So he's like doing these like 
really, like, dated America's 

1043
01:05:21,100 --> 01:05:24,200
Got Talent. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1044
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,800
And go through. 
He doesn't. 

1045
01:05:26,900 --> 01:05:31,400
Not go through but we young is 
dancing to NEOS one in a million

1046
01:05:32,700 --> 01:05:35,900
and I was like, oh my God, I 
love this song. 

1047
01:05:36,500 --> 01:05:43,500
Like even today Tech, I know 
usually about the OST at the end

1048
01:05:43,500 --> 01:05:45,200
of the. 
Yeah, the recording. 

1049
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,100
But that's just like talked 
about. 

1050
01:05:47,100 --> 01:05:51,200
The only thing that I was like, 
you know what, I'm gonna sit 

1051
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:55,200
back and enjoy the fact that 
like, the Star Wars OST is 

1052
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:56,800
playing right now, like, why is 
what? 

1053
01:05:56,900 --> 01:05:58,900
Are so much John Williams in 
this show. 

1054
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:04,100
I know there are little Wayne 6 
ft 7 in this. 

1055
01:06:04,100 --> 01:06:09,400
So want to know like Neo power. 
See I get it. 

1056
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:10,500
Okay. 
All right. 

1057
01:06:10,500 --> 01:06:11,400
Right right right. 
Yeah. 

1058
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:16,800
Oh I go wait six foot seven Star
Wars, I don't know. 

1059
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:20,800
Cool I had a moment when I don't
I don't know what episode this 

1060
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,900
is but Tech is on like a 
daytime. 

1061
01:06:23,900 --> 01:06:26,800
Talk show with his dad because 
the dad's trying to spin this 

1062
01:06:26,900 --> 01:06:30,000
This story like oh he's not my 
biological son, he's my adopted 

1063
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:34,100
son whatever because he's an 
asshole and a politician and 

1064
01:06:34,100 --> 01:06:38,100
when he's saying this whole 
excessive story of how he 

1065
01:06:38,100 --> 01:06:44,900
adopted text character, they're 
playing the main theme of 

1066
01:06:44,900 --> 01:06:51,800
Schindler's List about that and 
I was like what? 

1067
01:06:52,900 --> 01:06:57,100
I was just taken aback. 
I was so taken aback because 

1068
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,800
you're telling me the like sad 
violin music that you choose to 

1069
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:05,700
put behind this. 
Very fake sob story. 

1070
01:07:05,700 --> 01:07:08,200
That the dad is giving on 
daytime television here in the 

1071
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:13,000
show is Schindler's like 
Schindler's List. 

1072
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,000
Are you kidding? 
Which is why I was saying like 

1073
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:20,000
it's not just Star Wars. 
John Williams, it's Schindler's 

1074
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,500
List. 
John Williams tube in the show. 

1075
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,700
I mean, that's, I mean, that was
a lot. 

1076
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,900
I just did they get the rights? 
Like are they paying royalties? 

1077
01:07:29,900 --> 01:07:32,400
Are they gonna go? 
I don't know. 

1078
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,700
That's what I wondered to. 
I'm like, you can't use the Star

1079
01:07:34,700 --> 01:07:36,300
Wars. 
I'm like, I know they use it for

1080
01:07:36,300 --> 01:07:38,900
less than 10 seconds but you 
can't use like sorry, oops, 

1081
01:07:38,900 --> 01:07:42,400
that's seriously. 
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. 

1082
01:07:42,900 --> 01:07:44,200
That's where all their money 
one. 

1083
01:07:45,100 --> 01:07:48,500
Oh to licensing these songs. 
Yeah the John Williams stuff 

1084
01:07:48,700 --> 01:07:52,200
instead of properly warming 
they're actors. 

1085
01:07:53,500 --> 01:07:56,400
I was so pissed off. 
These people were freezing the 

1086
01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:02,300
whole time. 
Oh, Swan Lake yeah, that was 

1087
01:08:02,300 --> 01:08:05,500
another one where they did a 
whole routine freezing breath. 

1088
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,200
And the okay, so what we're 
referring to, for those who 

1089
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,800
haven't watched the show in her,
in the spoiler section, But 

1090
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,900
entire show was shot during the 
winter. 

1091
01:08:15,900 --> 01:08:19,000
It's a winter show through and 
through and they apparently 

1092
01:08:19,700 --> 01:08:23,399
evidently had zero Heating in 
any of the production. 

1093
01:08:23,399 --> 01:08:28,100
And so you see their breath 
throughout the show every actor 

1094
01:08:28,100 --> 01:08:30,100
when they're breathing when 
they're talking you see their 

1095
01:08:30,100 --> 01:08:35,600
breath and it's unnerving that 
all your entire production was 

1096
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:39,600
it in freezing temperatures and 
they're dressing. 

1097
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,200
These they're wearing miniskirts
are worrying. 

1098
01:08:42,300 --> 01:08:47,100
Little clothing little Blazers 
and that's it. 

1099
01:08:47,100 --> 01:08:49,600
Like the only one that was okay.
Was, I you because she had a fat

1100
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:53,000
suit for half. 
Literally I, oh, my God. 

1101
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,600
Everyone else was struggling. 
Let's talk about. 

1102
01:08:55,600 --> 01:09:02,100
Hey, cuties you years where? 
Oh my God, they were so they and

1103
01:09:02,100 --> 01:09:05,899
body inside the building than 
and the outside. 

1104
01:09:05,899 --> 01:09:09,800
See ya? 
I got bronchitis from watching 

1105
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:11,200
the show. 
Horrible horrible. 

1106
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:22,000
All of them guts, super sick. 
That's like it was terrible. 

1107
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:26,600
It was very distracting as well.
Are we watching real? 

1108
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:28,100
Like I don't care what they're 
saying. 

1109
01:09:28,100 --> 01:09:31,200
That girls freezing freezing 
your ass off like Jenna of 

1110
01:09:31,207 --> 01:09:33,200
disbelief? 
Yeah yeah. 

1111
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,100
So let's talk about IU in the 
fat suit. 

1112
01:09:36,100 --> 01:09:40,399
Now when I first of all, when I 
originally watched the show I 

1113
01:09:40,399 --> 01:09:44,399
had no idea who I you was. 
So when they started, removing 

1114
01:09:44,399 --> 01:09:48,000
the fat suit and the Prosthetics
on her face and stuff, I was 

1115
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:53,100
shocked at how beautiful this 
random like woman was, I was 

1116
01:09:53,100 --> 01:09:56,200
like this girl is stunning and 
her voice is amazing. 

1117
01:09:56,500 --> 01:10:00,000
This was my introduction to. 
I you what did you guys feel 

1118
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:04,900
about IU in the fat suit and her
whole characterization and how 

1119
01:10:04,900 --> 01:10:09,300
the cast are not cast but how 
the other characters treated her

1120
01:10:09,300 --> 01:10:13,100
throughout the show? 
I hated every second of it. 

1121
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:16,700
Yeah. 
Like, the fat suit was horribly 

1122
01:10:16,700 --> 01:10:20,600
made like they only it wasn't a 
fat suit. 

1123
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:22,300
They just took her leggings or 
whatever. 

1124
01:10:22,300 --> 01:10:25,300
She was wearing them and then 
patted them but they patted it 

1125
01:10:25,300 --> 01:10:28,500
like horrible. 
Like it would not have gone well

1126
01:10:28,500 --> 01:10:31,100
in like drag race like it was 
just terrible. 

1127
01:10:31,100 --> 01:10:34,200
Terrible terrible. 
He's like lumpy and like weird 

1128
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:35,900
and then it stopped at the 
knees. 

1129
01:10:35,900 --> 01:10:38,100
They didn't go all the way up 
the thighs. 

1130
01:10:38,100 --> 01:10:43,200
So it was just like Really 
really like bulb Louis like 

1131
01:10:43,900 --> 01:10:47,900
lower part of the leg and then 
like super skinny, super skinny 

1132
01:10:47,900 --> 01:10:51,000
thighs. 
And it was just, it was I, I 

1133
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:58,400
hated every second she had 
started losing weight even 

1134
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,500
though she was like, still 
eating a lot, but it was like 

1135
01:11:01,500 --> 01:11:04,000
they just took off the face 
Prosthetics, but her brother was

1136
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:08,200
the same, right, right. 
And then the storyline it. 

1137
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,200
So I mean the only thing that I 
I like didn't hate and I was 

1138
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:15,600
okay props to them was like okay
she lost the weight after the 

1139
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:20,100
200 days or whatever and then 
Jason was trying to like get 

1140
01:11:20,100 --> 01:11:22,600
something out of her and she's 
like actually I just realized 

1141
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,600
that you were trash. 
So like by, oh my God, that was 

1142
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:41,900
like that too. 
The children who wears a fedora 

1143
01:11:41,900 --> 01:11:48,100
like this over one. 
I gotta hit it that Fedora and 

1144
01:11:48,100 --> 01:11:50,400
the Bad English. 
Like the bad pronunciation, I 

1145
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:53,700
think I heard that Tech was 
helping him with his English 

1146
01:11:53,700 --> 01:11:55,600
pronunciation. 
But I was like, wow, do 

1147
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,400
something about that? 
I'm like, the irony of like, 

1148
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,500
Tech, actually speaking English,
but they didn't put them on that

1149
01:11:59,500 --> 01:12:01,900
role, but they put Young on that
role of the police. 

1150
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:05,500
Anything makes sense. 
Do you know? 

1151
01:12:05,500 --> 01:12:09,700
I thought, I didn't think much 
of the English the first time I 

1152
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:14,900
Watched it of Jason's English, 
but on this watch I was like 

1153
01:12:14,900 --> 01:12:16,800
he's terrible. 
Like, it's terrible 

1154
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:18,400
pronunciation. 
Yeah. 

1155
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:23,900
He's trying though. 
There's always led into the 

1156
01:12:24,100 --> 01:12:28,000
thing of why he started out 
basically like only speaking 

1157
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,000
English and no one could 
understand him but he speaks 

1158
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,100
perfect Korean and he has a 
sister named Julie but like 

1159
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,700
Jason and Julie. 
So like do you have an American 

1160
01:12:35,700 --> 01:12:37,300
mom? 
Like what is the tsys? 

1161
01:12:37,300 --> 01:12:39,600
Like we were got it. 
Exactly understood. 

1162
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:40,700
Why? 
Why they don't care. 

1163
01:12:40,700 --> 01:12:44,300
I mean, it's my villain origin 
story and I think it's why 

1164
01:12:44,300 --> 01:12:45,900
Jason. 
Who is Jason? 

1165
01:12:45,900 --> 01:12:50,000
Tell us who he is. 
What was I talking about? 

1166
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:51,200
Oh, I use. 
So. 

1167
01:12:52,900 --> 01:12:58,100
Are you in the fat suit? 
I think it's really sad because 

1168
01:12:58,100 --> 01:13:05,300
the show doesn't do such a good 
job of providing a or refuting 

1169
01:13:06,300 --> 01:13:11,800
like this that phobia. 
The teachers are the ones that 

1170
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,100
tell her like you got, you got 
to lose weight. 

1171
01:13:14,500 --> 01:13:17,800
And what was the teacher was? 
She was saying, like, you should

1172
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,700
eat breakfast like a queen and 
lunch like a whatever. 

1173
01:13:20,700 --> 01:13:22,500
And then my whole life growing 
up by the way. 

1174
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:29,100
Yeah, it's a common everyday of 
my life advice for people if you

1175
01:13:29,108 --> 01:13:32,100
want to lose weight weight like 
don't eat a large dinner, eat a 

1176
01:13:32,100 --> 01:13:37,600
large breakfast and whatever and
I just feel like it's just 

1177
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,300
perpetuating this terrible 
cycle. 

1178
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:45,200
Kle of, you know, self-loathing 
and self-hatred that she ends up

1179
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:48,100
talking briefly about towards 
the end of the show where she 

1180
01:13:48,100 --> 01:13:50,700
was. 
Like, if I continue down this 

1181
01:13:50,700 --> 01:13:55,100
road, trying to be an idol and 
trying to get famous, they're 

1182
01:13:55,100 --> 01:13:58,400
just going to dig up these 
photos of me when I was fat. 

1183
01:13:58,500 --> 01:14:02,900
And I was happy when I was fat, 
I loved my life when I was fat, 

1184
01:14:02,900 --> 01:14:06,600
I was I didn't hate myself in 
the slightest and they're going 

1185
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:11,100
to make me hate myself. 
That was cute and I was like, 

1186
01:14:11,100 --> 01:14:16,900
that's a lot, that's a nice. 
An incredibly nuanced take on, 

1187
01:14:17,700 --> 01:14:21,200
you know, being overweight in 
this in an industry, that just 

1188
01:14:21,300 --> 01:14:25,500
will not support that and the 
way that she ends up at the end 

1189
01:14:25,500 --> 01:14:27,900
of the show, which is, I don't 
know if you guys liked it or 

1190
01:14:27,900 --> 01:14:29,500
hated it or had no feelings 
toward it. 

1191
01:14:29,500 --> 01:14:32,500
But she ends up being like, an 
elementary school or preschool 

1192
01:14:32,500 --> 01:14:34,500
teacher teacher. 
Yeah. 

1193
01:14:34,500 --> 01:14:37,400
And she's singing to the 
students that's like her Outlet.

1194
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:39,400
Her musical Outlet is just to 
like sing to her. 

1195
01:14:39,500 --> 01:14:43,500
A little students and she's 
gained back some weight. 

1196
01:14:43,500 --> 01:14:46,200
Not like how she was with the 
beginning with the Prosthetics 

1197
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:49,600
but she's gained back, some of 
some weight, and she's still 

1198
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:54,300
semi dating Jason, I guess I 
don't even know what's going on 

1199
01:14:54,300 --> 01:14:59,300
there. 
But I think the way that they 

1200
01:14:59,300 --> 01:15:02,200
handled the relationship between
her and Jason turned out to be a

1201
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:08,500
plus for me because Jason ended 
up liking her when she was fat. 

1202
01:15:10,100 --> 01:15:14,000
And the photo that he had on his
phone background was her with 

1203
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,100
all of the Prosthetics. 
And when she was at her 

1204
01:15:16,100 --> 01:15:20,200
heaviest, and I was like, that's
something right. 

1205
01:15:20,300 --> 01:15:25,800
The American thing, he had to 
literally only thing that makes 

1206
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,700
sense, right? 
I wish they had written it 

1207
01:15:28,700 --> 01:15:29,800
better. 
I guess. 

1208
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:34,800
When, because he'd rejected her 
when she confessed her feelings 

1209
01:15:34,900 --> 01:15:39,000
and she was still overweight. 
So I was like I think that was a

1210
01:15:39,008 --> 01:15:40,300
mess. 
I think he should have 

1211
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:44,200
definitely done more, I guess. 
Romantically when she was 

1212
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:47,800
overweight, then suddenly 200 
days later and she starved 

1213
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:53,500
herself to be. 
I you now suddenly he wants the 

1214
01:15:53,500 --> 01:15:55,500
confession out of her. 
I agree. 

1215
01:15:55,500 --> 01:15:58,600
But I say, I don't know. 
If I was the only one who liked 

1216
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:02,000
saw it this way when he, like 
she was the one that offered, 

1217
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:03,800
she's like, give me 200 days and
I'll be, yeah. 

1218
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:05,000
Wait, yeah. 
Yeah, he didn't. 

1219
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,100
He knew that? 
It was like, the commercial 

1220
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:10,500
like, right? 
Play so I thought like he was 

1221
01:16:10,500 --> 01:16:13,300
like, okay fine, lose the weight
but it wasn't for him. 

1222
01:16:13,300 --> 01:16:15,600
It was no, it was for the better
for the music. 

1223
01:16:15,700 --> 01:16:18,400
Exactly. 
It was for her career, liked it 

1224
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,600
liked I liked it. 
Wasn't he wasn't at by, don't 

1225
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,800
know if he wasn't expecting her 
to actually go through with it. 

1226
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:27,300
I'm like lose the weight but I, 
at least appreciated that he 

1227
01:16:27,500 --> 01:16:30,500
really had no selfish interest 
there. 

1228
01:16:30,500 --> 01:16:32,800
He just wanted her to get her 
flowers. 

1229
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:37,500
Yes, absolutely. 
Yeah, he was sort of tricking 

1230
01:16:37,500 --> 01:16:41,200
her into Losing weight so that 
she could further her career and

1231
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,400
get credit where she deserved 
credit, because they were 

1232
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:46,300
stealing her voice like Singing 
in the Rain Styles. 

1233
01:16:46,300 --> 01:16:51,300
So I like ended up liking Jason 
as a character. 

1234
01:16:51,300 --> 01:16:55,400
I thought he had, you know, a 
lot of these characters had 

1235
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:58,900
major growth throughout the 
series and Jason's one of them. 

1236
01:16:58,900 --> 01:17:01,800
I you I don't think she 
necessarily changed throughout 

1237
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:03,700
the show, her character sort of 
say the same. 

1238
01:17:03,700 --> 01:17:09,600
She was very sweet and Just a 
lovely sort of character who 

1239
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:14,000
loved herself if she was fat or 
skinny or whatever which is 

1240
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:15,400
powerful, I thought that was 
powerful. 

1241
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:17,700
That's what I said that it was 
cute when you mention the 

1242
01:17:17,700 --> 01:17:20,500
speech, like the fact that she 
said like I was happy then 

1243
01:17:20,700 --> 01:17:23,300
that's a powerful thing that I 
don't think we get to hear often

1244
01:17:23,300 --> 01:17:26,000
on TV. 
People actually like being happy

1245
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,300
and accepting themselves when 
they're not at the weight that 

1246
01:17:28,300 --> 01:17:30,200
everyone wants them to be. 
Hmm. 

1247
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,000
That was a I think it would have
been even more powerful in the 

1248
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:36,700
long run. 
If I use appearance sort of 

1249
01:17:36,700 --> 01:17:38,200
changed over time, Time. 
Right? 

1250
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:43,000
She still looks exactly like she
did in the show. 

1251
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:48,100
She still is sort of ageless 
she's still super skinny and I 

1252
01:17:48,108 --> 01:17:49,600
don't know if there's any truth 
to this. 

1253
01:17:49,700 --> 01:17:52,700
I remember hearing some people 
like on Tick-Tock trying to 

1254
01:17:52,700 --> 01:17:57,600
trying to do the IU diet, which 
is like a sweet potato and a 

1255
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,000
carrot or something like that. 
It was like something wild. 

1256
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:03,300
Like, she basically doesn't eat 
that sounds about, right? 

1257
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:09,000
And I was like, so then I'm 
like, this is like Not not that 

1258
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:13,300
she necessarily needs to believe
the message that she puts forth 

1259
01:18:13,300 --> 01:18:17,500
in any of the dramas or movies 
that she does, but it would be 

1260
01:18:17,500 --> 01:18:22,100
really nice if she just ate like
a regular person wasn't eating 

1261
01:18:22,100 --> 01:18:24,700
sweet but to do sweet potatoes, 
a day or whatever it is. 

1262
01:18:25,100 --> 01:18:27,400
No idle eats like a normal 
person. 

1263
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,700
It's sad. 
It's so sad. 

1264
01:18:29,900 --> 01:18:31,100
Like literally. 
No. 

1265
01:18:31,100 --> 01:18:32,700
I don't eat like a normal 
person. 

1266
01:18:32,700 --> 01:18:34,100
When did you see them when we 
see? 

1267
01:18:34,100 --> 01:18:36,100
Like, the biggest evidence is, 
when any of them go to the 

1268
01:18:36,100 --> 01:18:38,900
military like know. 
Jin just posted a picture, not 

1269
01:18:38,900 --> 01:18:40,100
to make everything about Idols 
all the time. 

1270
01:18:40,100 --> 01:18:43,300
But he just posted its entire 
drama and it's like oh they're 

1271
01:18:43,300 --> 01:18:46,400
eating three times a day and 
they look like a normal person. 

1272
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:50,800
Every like BTS is one of the 
idol groups that tend to talk 

1273
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,300
about dieting and starving 
themselves more than other 

1274
01:18:54,300 --> 01:18:57,300
groups do. 
And most of them eat one meal a 

1275
01:18:57,300 --> 01:19:00,000
day. 
If if, at all like they say 

1276
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:03,400
specifically, like today is no 
food day. 

1277
01:19:03,500 --> 01:19:07,200
Like today, I only had a protein
shake, they're all like to get 

1278
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,000
there. 
Little jaw looks and everything 

1279
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:12,000
they don't eat like any normal 
person. 

1280
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:16,500
So I'm not surprised that if I 
if you told me, I you eats three

1281
01:19:16,500 --> 01:19:18,900
little, like things of grass I 
would be like. 

1282
01:19:18,900 --> 01:19:20,800
Yeah, that makes sense. 
I don't not. 

1283
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:24,000
Yeah. 
So who is the person that I was 

1284
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,500
just talking to somebody about 
the oh ray rain. 

1285
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:31,500
So I was talking to somebody 
about rain because rain is still

1286
01:19:31,500 --> 01:19:36,000
keeping up, his insane physique.
He's incredibly fit and I think 

1287
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:37,400
he's still just eats one meal a 
day. 

1288
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,800
Day. 
Yeah you call one like large 

1289
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,500
meal a day famously eats only 
one meal a day. 

1290
01:19:42,500 --> 01:19:46,700
Like the most of the people will
talk about this openly because 

1291
01:19:46,700 --> 01:19:49,300
for them Eating Disorders are 
normal, right? 

1292
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:53,500
And that way. 
So yeah, it's it's incredibly 

1293
01:19:53,500 --> 01:19:56,500
disheartening like Kai talks 
about it a lot. 

1294
01:19:56,500 --> 01:20:02,100
He says to all his fans he's 
like you guys need to eat not 

1295
01:20:02,100 --> 01:20:04,700
like us because we don't eat 
correctly. 

1296
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:09,000
If this wasn't my job, I would 
eat like Normal person, but 

1297
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:12,800
because I chose this life, I 
have to eat the way that I have 

1298
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:17,300
to to maintain the body but you 
guys shouldn't follow what we do

1299
01:20:17,300 --> 01:20:20,500
because it's not good. 
You know, they did say that in 

1300
01:20:20,500 --> 01:20:22,300
the show, I think. 
One of the teachers was like, 

1301
01:20:22,300 --> 01:20:26,600
you know, part of this career or
part of this job is maintaining 

1302
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:32,400
this look right. 
And if everyone could do it then

1303
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,500
they would but not everyone can 
do it. 

1304
01:20:34,500 --> 01:20:37,800
So that's why people respect and
admire this sort of Of 

1305
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:42,500
aspirational, look that you 
project as a KPop star and I was

1306
01:20:42,500 --> 01:20:44,500
like, okay cool. 
So we're just going to starve 

1307
01:20:44,500 --> 01:20:48,700
people and create Eating 
Disorders, left and right just 

1308
01:20:48,700 --> 01:20:51,400
to maintain up. 
Prop up this industry and I'm 

1309
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:53,500
like I'm like this is all 
problematic, right? 

1310
01:20:53,500 --> 01:21:00,700
Like nothing is is okay about 
idolizing these people that look

1311
01:21:00,700 --> 01:21:02,700
like this? 
When what do they have to do to 

1312
01:21:02,700 --> 01:21:05,000
create this isn't natural, you 
know. 

1313
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:07,400
And I'm sure a lot of girls 
especially because you're my 

1314
01:21:07,500 --> 01:21:10,400
Mentioned earlier like the, they
had a heavy demographic of 

1315
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:12,300
teenagers watching the show back
there. 

1316
01:21:12,300 --> 01:21:14,800
Yeah. 
Tried the diet that I use 

1317
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,900
character did because they kind 
of showed some sketches on TV of

1318
01:21:17,900 --> 01:21:21,000
like the food that she would eat
in the morning and right night, 

1319
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:25,200
I'm sure many girls tried it 
themselves, just to get the same

1320
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:29,600
results kind of thing and it's 
just not healthy for the society

1321
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,300
as a whole. 
But Korea is not there yet, not 

1322
01:21:32,300 --> 01:21:36,900
yet. 
Do you know, I My sister has a 

1323
01:21:36,900 --> 01:21:41,000
friend or an acquaintance, who 
is Asian and she said that she 

1324
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,600
was a trainee. 
And I when my sister told me 

1325
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:45,600
that I was like, oh fuck like 
what did she? 

1326
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:47,700
What was the group that she was 
possibly going to be in? 

1327
01:21:47,700 --> 01:21:50,000
And they were she was like, she 
said that she was going to be an

1328
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:54,200
SNSD Girls Generation allows 
like you're fucking joking. 

1329
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:59,600
So the reason why she quit was 
because they wanted her to get a

1330
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:03,400
bunch of plastic surgery, but on
top of that, she is on the 

1331
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:07,600
normal side as far as Height, I 
guess she's like 54 so and they 

1332
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:11,600
wanted her to get leg extension 
surgery, which is a major 

1333
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:16,600
freaking surgery for her to get 
a little more height for her to 

1334
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,900
be taller. 
And she was like, now I'm 

1335
01:22:18,900 --> 01:22:22,400
tapping out, like, I'm not doing
that and I was like, are you 

1336
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:23,300
kidding? 
Like even? 

1337
01:22:23,300 --> 01:22:27,300
I didn't think to that effect. 
Oh no, they would go. 

1338
01:22:27,500 --> 01:22:32,600
Yeah, so I was I mean what other
podcast episode? 

1339
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:34,700
Can I talk about this crazy 
story? 

1340
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,600
But, yeah, I was like insane. 
What are we here? 

1341
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:42,100
Nothing is really surprising. 
When it comes to like agencies, 

1342
01:22:42,100 --> 01:22:44,300
and the lens idle Idols will go 
to. 

1343
01:22:44,900 --> 01:22:50,400
And I had seen recently, some, I
guess, Wes tarnish, interviewer 

1344
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:52,700
went to some K-pop group. 
Like, I don't know if their 

1345
01:22:52,700 --> 01:22:56,000
trainees or what they are, like 
a girl group to interview them 

1346
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,500
at their dorms, and I don't know
why they ended up opening the 

1347
01:22:58,500 --> 01:23:01,200
fridge. 
And it was only eggs and chicken

1348
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,900
like eggs and chicken breast. 
Like, they don't have they can 

1349
01:23:05,100 --> 01:23:07,900
Not cheat because they don't 
have a way to cheat and get 

1350
01:23:07,900 --> 01:23:09,900
food. 
Like they genuinely, don't, 

1351
01:23:09,900 --> 01:23:12,700
they're not afforded, they're 
not given because they live on 

1352
01:23:12,700 --> 01:23:14,900
the stipend of the company. 
So, whatever they're allowed to 

1353
01:23:14,900 --> 01:23:17,200
buy, like they don't really have
money of their own. 

1354
01:23:17,700 --> 01:23:22,900
So, eating is not a priority. 
And plastic surgery is literally

1355
01:23:22,900 --> 01:23:25,900
for everyone, and they have to 
just do these crazy things, 

1356
01:23:25,900 --> 01:23:27,800
because they get brainwashed 
into thinking that this is the 

1357
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:30,500
only way that they'll succeed, 
right, and that they have to do 

1358
01:23:30,500 --> 01:23:34,300
these things. 
So it doesn't truly, like, I 

1359
01:23:34,308 --> 01:23:38,500
don't discuss It is closed, 
which is why, which is why going

1360
01:23:38,500 --> 01:23:43,100
back to our non-spoiler section.
We were so pissed about jyp 

1361
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:47,800
being. 
So the champion of, yeah, of the

1362
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:52,000
kids that, you know, I should 
get all the awards based on 

1363
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:55,800
their talent and nothing about 
looks and nothing about this. 

1364
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:57,400
Yeah, shut up. 
Like get out. 

1365
01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:02,600
The Justin has current lineup of
groups it see. 

1366
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:04,900
Oh my God! 
They're everywhere. 

1367
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:08,200
Time. 
I look at them, I it just makes 

1368
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:12,700
me like my whole like stomach 
and like everything just starts 

1369
01:24:12,700 --> 01:24:16,400
to like, flip over and do a 
bunch of things because there's 

1370
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:21,900
no way, there's no way like 
there's zero like muscle like, 

1371
01:24:21,900 --> 01:24:25,700
no, well, body fat in general, 
but like like these girls are 

1372
01:24:25,700 --> 01:24:29,500
like like skin on bone like 
because, you know, it's a 

1373
01:24:29,500 --> 01:24:32,500
contrast to see twice because 
twice, actually, like they look 

1374
01:24:32,500 --> 01:24:36,200
more normal and they look like 
they have Have meat on them and 

1375
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:40,800
they are not seemingly at least 
like starving, but it see. 

1376
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:45,500
Looks like they're starving like
the, the clavicles like that 

1377
01:24:45,500 --> 01:24:48,800
hallowed like faces. 
It's not good. 

1378
01:24:48,900 --> 01:24:52,000
The city did not good. 
The hit the head like you can 

1379
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,500
see it like you can see it like 
come. 

1380
01:24:54,500 --> 01:24:59,400
It's just you see that and then 
you see what he was trying and 

1381
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:02,700
is still trying to portray 
himself as it's like my guy. 

1382
01:25:02,700 --> 01:25:07,900
No, no. 
Okay, well, okay. 

1383
01:25:07,900 --> 01:25:10,600
So let's talk about games, 
dookie on, and a little bit 

1384
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:15,300
about his relationship with Susy
because when we first meet Kim 

1385
01:25:15,300 --> 01:25:19,700
sohyun, he's literally wearing a
fertilizer bag as a costume. 

1386
01:25:19,700 --> 01:25:24,600
I never wore that his talents 
contest in his small hick town 

1387
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:30,100
and Susie's like the city girls.
And I have this Trope of like 

1388
01:25:30,100 --> 01:25:37,000
the country boy in the city girl
but she Lies to him outright to 

1389
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:42,700
get him to come to Seoul. 
And it's so sad. 

1390
01:25:42,700 --> 01:25:46,400
I mean, you just how do I put 
it? 

1391
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:49,800
I'm never on Susie side like 
throughout the show. 

1392
01:25:49,900 --> 01:25:53,300
Her character is just horrendous
and even when she sort of sobers

1393
01:25:53,300 --> 01:25:57,700
up and learns to feel and learns
how to be a human and learns, 

1394
01:25:57,700 --> 01:25:59,700
how to have empathy and sympathy
for others. 

1395
01:26:00,300 --> 01:26:02,900
I'm still like, yeah, I don't 
like this bitch. 

1396
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:07,200
And what I don't know how you 
guys felt about their 

1397
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:11,100
relationship in the way that you
know, the whole scene of him 

1398
01:26:11,100 --> 01:26:15,300
running. 
After the bus and one just to 

1399
01:26:15,300 --> 01:26:17,900
ask you when she was leaving his
town. 

1400
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:22,600
And she run, he runs after the 
bus and she tells him that she 

1401
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,300
likes him. 
But oh, I like you, what come to

1402
01:26:25,300 --> 01:26:27,400
Seoul. 
She this is the only time I'll 

1403
01:26:27,407 --> 01:26:30,000
defend her the entire time. 
She asked him. 

1404
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:31,800
What would it take? 
Like, what do you want me to 

1405
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:35,300
hear? 
Ye so you can come like she if 

1406
01:26:35,300 --> 01:26:37,100
you fall for that, that's on you
about. 

1407
01:26:37,100 --> 01:26:40,500
Like it's it's not, it's not her
like wussy. 

1408
01:26:41,500 --> 01:26:42,800
What's sad? 
Is that? 

1409
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:46,200
He knows that she's lying 
because he turns around and he's

1410
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:48,700
like, clutching his chest like 
his, if he's just like 

1411
01:26:48,700 --> 01:26:52,300
completely stirred and he goes, 
oh, she's such a bad. 

1412
01:26:52,300 --> 01:26:54,600
She's so terrible. 
She's lying. 

1413
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:59,600
I know she's lying to me and 
you're immediately on his team 

1414
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:01,200
on his side because he's so 
adorable. 

1415
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:07,100
So lovable, so gullible and he 
still goes to Soul even though 

1416
01:27:07,100 --> 01:27:10,700
he his common sense is telling 
him, this bitch is lying to him 

1417
01:27:10,700 --> 01:27:14,200
just to get To go to Seoul and 
join the school. 

1418
01:27:15,300 --> 01:27:21,000
I appreciated the fact that she 
I think this is the only drama 

1419
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:25,600
that I've seen where they take 
the main characters, bitchiness 

1420
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:29,400
to this level because there has 
been other dramas where the main

1421
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:32,400
lead the mail for the main 
female lead is a little bit 

1422
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:35,300
bitchy, but they have a lot of 
redeeming qualities. 

1423
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:41,300
This one, she barely has any so 
it's very it's very unique. 

1424
01:27:41,500 --> 01:27:45,900
Because it's very unique II. 
Do appreciate the fact that they

1425
01:27:46,900 --> 01:27:50,700
even when she changes her core 
is still very much the same. 

1426
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:54,900
There isn't really a very big 
180 because that 180 would have 

1427
01:27:54,900 --> 01:27:57,900
been even less believable than 
like, right. 

1428
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,100
A lot of things are unbelievable
here, but like, that would have 

1429
01:28:02,100 --> 01:28:05,100
been just like this is your guys
aren't need a break right now. 

1430
01:28:05,100 --> 01:28:10,100
Like this is too much, so I do 
like the fact that even when she

1431
01:28:10,100 --> 01:28:15,100
changes for the good, it's It's 
not that good still because 

1432
01:28:15,500 --> 01:28:17,900
she's such a bitch like so 
terrible. 

1433
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:23,600
Yeah. 
It's yeah, did you guys laugh 

1434
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:25,500
though? 
She stays at their house at his 

1435
01:28:25,500 --> 01:28:27,300
house, is a pooping with his 
mom. 

1436
01:28:27,300 --> 01:28:32,300
Well sipping seen. 
I hated he so she's like I got 

1437
01:28:32,300 --> 01:28:35,100
out of the bathroom, they live 
in the middle of nowhere and the

1438
01:28:35,100 --> 01:28:37,600
moms like okay you know, Kim 
Sue. 

1439
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,100
He owns character will take you 
and she goes. 

1440
01:28:40,100 --> 01:28:42,000
Why do I need somebody to go 
with him? 

1441
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:46,300
If with me and they're like oh 
the wild boars are it could 

1442
01:28:46,300 --> 01:28:49,900
could come up on you and like 
wreck you and she's like what 

1443
01:28:49,900 --> 01:28:53,100
there's a freaking out. 
Outhouse and it's like we said, 

1444
01:28:53,100 --> 01:28:55,000
freezing in the middle of 
winter, so there's snow on the 

1445
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,200
ground. 
He walks her to this Outhouse 

1446
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:00,200
and she's poop shy 
understandably. 

1447
01:29:00,900 --> 01:29:04,100
And I think she tells him, like,
why don't you sing something for

1448
01:29:04,100 --> 01:29:05,800
me and he's like, no, why don't 
you sing? 

1449
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:11,500
And she starts singing. 
This song Only Hope from. 

1450
01:29:11,500 --> 01:29:13,300
I know it from A Walk to 
Remember. 

1451
01:29:13,300 --> 01:29:19,500
Do you guys remember that movie?
Oh my God, that song. 

1452
01:29:19,500 --> 01:29:22,000
It's just a suspension of 
disbelief. 

1453
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:24,100
How am I supposed to like 
understand? 

1454
01:29:24,100 --> 01:29:27,400
And and problem that you can 
sing while you are literally 

1455
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:29,700
pooping like pulling? 
No, Mom. 

1456
01:29:29,700 --> 01:29:32,400
Aunt. 
And you're already pooped. 

1457
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:35,000
I like that. 
Yeah gonna work out they have 

1458
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:39,000
phones like she could have just 
played something true true like 

1459
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:43,900
it's it just I hate it. 
I don't like the toilet humor 

1460
01:29:43,900 --> 01:29:49,400
that a lot of kdramas use It's 
not, it's not funny, it's cheap 

1461
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:52,700
and unnecessary to be quite 
honest. 

1462
01:29:53,100 --> 01:29:55,500
You guys know, like, the first 
drama that I watched was Hong 

1463
01:29:55,500 --> 01:29:58,700
Kong, and there's a lot of poop 
humor in that drama. 

1464
01:29:58,700 --> 01:30:01,100
And I remember texting Lauda, 
every time that I saw him like I

1465
01:30:01,108 --> 01:30:03,100
don't get it, like, I don't get 
it. 

1466
01:30:03,100 --> 01:30:07,200
And again, I'm still less than 
10 K dramas and to make a drama 

1467
01:30:07,300 --> 01:30:09,300
like experience. 
And every time I see it, I'm 

1468
01:30:09,300 --> 01:30:13,400
just like, well, why? 
I get like, it's lowbrow it, 

1469
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:15,300
bro. 
It's a cultural thing but it 

1470
01:30:15,300 --> 01:30:17,100
just doesn't make sense to me. 
Yeah. 

1471
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:20,600
Yeah. 
So they had this whole CC seen 

1472
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:22,200
worse. 
Susie's pooping. 

1473
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:26,200
And she sings the song, I could 
not write this myself. 

1474
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:30,100
Anyway, one of my favorite 
things about Suzanne to also his

1475
01:30:30,100 --> 01:30:32,400
relationship with his mom was 
really sweet and when they're 

1476
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:34,900
all sweet each other. 
The solder either dialect. 

1477
01:30:35,300 --> 01:30:39,700
Oh my God. 
I heard it was just so so cute. 

1478
01:30:39,700 --> 01:30:44,300
He's talking and I like the 
whole move the whole show and 

1479
01:30:44,300 --> 01:30:46,200
when he's with her he's like 
heavier. 

1480
01:30:46,900 --> 01:30:50,400
Also miss our country bumpkin 
can't like you know not doesn't 

1481
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:52,400
know anything about life ends up
in Japan. 

1482
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:56,900
Speaking like an English to the 
like understanding the English. 

1483
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:59,900
You know, it's a girl. 
How many things do you want me 

1484
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:02,400
to like, how do you want? 
How much do you want me to gas 

1485
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:06,200
like myself for me to think that
this is actually like feasible 

1486
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:12,400
any of this? 
And I don't know the answer that

1487
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:19,900
but still here on ends up being 
artists K right by the end. 

1488
01:31:19,900 --> 01:31:23,500
He's the big artists performing 
at the Grammys which that didn't

1489
01:31:23,500 --> 01:31:25,300
look like the Grammys by any 
stretch. 

1490
01:31:25,300 --> 01:31:27,800
But okay more. 
Especially as dismal. 

1491
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:30,100
No. 
No, no. 

1492
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:36,200
But I kind of like that he was, 
he made it, you know, even 

1493
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:41,300
though they had this whole whole
freakin medical drama with him 

1494
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:45,500
and his Progressive hearing loss
in the tinnitus and all of that 

1495
01:31:45,500 --> 01:31:50,100
was like, I remember that being 
a huge deal, a huge reveal as 

1496
01:31:50,100 --> 01:31:52,100
well. 
When I first watched the show 

1497
01:31:52,100 --> 01:31:56,900
was like, they had this scene 
where he's watching Susie and 

1498
01:31:56,900 --> 01:32:00,100
Tech kiss on the ferris wheel, 
which was like, oh my God, what 

1499
01:32:00,100 --> 01:32:02,600
a blow and then he like 
collapses and I'm like, what's 

1500
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:04,700
going on? 
The start of the very next 

1501
01:32:04,700 --> 01:32:08,400
episode is them, is him in the 
hospital receiving this Gnosis 

1502
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:11,900
that he's got progressing here a
progressive hearing loss, and 

1503
01:32:11,900 --> 01:32:18,200
he's got to sort of shore up for
eventual deafness and I was 

1504
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:22,300
like, oh my God I like was 
really cut up about it because 

1505
01:32:22,500 --> 01:32:26,500
he's just getting going. 
He's just starting to train and 

1506
01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:29,400
sing and dance and all this 
stuff and now he can't sing 

1507
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:33,300
anymore. 
I mean, it was this is very old 

1508
01:32:33,300 --> 01:32:38,400
school kdrama, but go through 
all his It's like, you know, 

1509
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:42,500
fighting his demons thing. 
And yes, thank creep because or 

1510
01:32:42,500 --> 01:32:45,600
like the creeps on truck comes 
on because of course creep has 

1511
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:50,500
to be a part of every piece of 
like legendary to me or if not 

1512
01:32:50,500 --> 01:32:54,100
it's not legendary. 
I love the fact that he cut his 

1513
01:32:54,100 --> 01:32:59,000
hair and got a 0 earring like a 
piercing bad boy. 

1514
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:02,400
He looked it, though. 
It's okay with me. 

1515
01:33:02,900 --> 01:33:09,000
I remember me. 
And then he was like, fine for 

1516
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:12,000
two episodes and like he didn't 
have a hearing problem anymore. 

1517
01:33:12,300 --> 01:33:14,300
Uh-huh. 
Unlike later, I would come back 

1518
01:33:14,300 --> 01:33:16,700
or it wouldn't. 
And then I'm like, there were 

1519
01:33:16,700 --> 01:33:19,600
entire videos on YouTube back. 
When I don't know, a bunch of 

1520
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:22,800
YouTubers that I used to watch 
that, they were doing singing 

1521
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:25,600
challenges. 
We're like singing with noise 

1522
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:28,000
canceling things, so I can't 
hear my own like voice. 

1523
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:31,000
You can't sing. 
Cannot if you can't hear 

1524
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:35,600
yourself, no, like the 
unbelievable - of this isn't 

1525
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:37,500
this, this tumult. 
I'm high. 

1526
01:33:38,100 --> 01:33:41,100
This all I want. 
Yeah. 

1527
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:44,400
I mean in 2012 or 13. 
I was like I don't think that's 

1528
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:46,600
true but I just want to believe 
it. 

1529
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:48,700
And then today I really we 
watching it. 

1530
01:33:48,700 --> 01:33:52,800
I'm like, this is impossible. 
You can't. 

1531
01:33:52,900 --> 01:33:55,400
You just can't. 
You need to be able to hear 

1532
01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:59,300
yourself in order to sing. 
It's just, he can't just find 

1533
01:33:59,300 --> 01:34:00,100
him. 
Then he had there were this 

1534
01:34:00,100 --> 01:34:03,600
thing where he was trying to 
learn Perfect Pitch and they 

1535
01:34:03,608 --> 01:34:05,200
were like, you can do it. 
You could do it. 

1536
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:14,300
Like no, you can't hear you. 
Speaking of disbelief and just 

1537
01:34:14,300 --> 01:34:20,400
out there, the fact that we're 
supposed to accept and forgive 

1538
01:34:21,100 --> 01:34:27,000
bakey for throwing a pot, trying
to murder her friend. 

1539
01:34:35,300 --> 01:34:38,300
That happened and we're okay 
with her character by the end of

1540
01:34:38,300 --> 01:34:42,100
the show, we're like, you know 
what, it wasn't that bad like 

1541
01:34:42,100 --> 01:34:47,400
this is a case of it's a it's a 
criminal case that they never 

1542
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:52,500
sort of went into the even the 
teacher Kang was I we're not 

1543
01:34:52,500 --> 01:34:54,800
going to talk about like the 
murder that almost noticed. 

1544
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:57,800
She was missing the bun. 
How does she fix it it? 

1545
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:01,800
Because Tech like found the 
button and then she, no, no, 

1546
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:05,800
definitely had a, yeah, yeah. 
She By the time he confronted 

1547
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:08,100
her and then he was like, oh I 
guess, but again I don't know. 

1548
01:35:08,100 --> 01:35:10,400
Like how does she notice that 
the fun went flying hottest, you

1549
01:35:10,407 --> 01:35:16,200
know to fix it or change her 
jacket or whatever like he was 

1550
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:21,300
an a-plus-plus. 
Murderer I guess because she 

1551
01:35:22,900 --> 01:35:27,100
knew what to fix the let her 
Alibi was okay and tecton. 

1552
01:35:27,100 --> 01:35:30,300
It's just Spector anymore. 
But also how she starts with 

1553
01:35:30,300 --> 01:35:33,500
like the braids and things with 
like oh she's matching. 

1554
01:35:33,700 --> 01:35:36,500
She's matching bases. 
He's character to team, like the

1555
01:35:36,500 --> 01:35:38,900
haircut, which actually suited 
her really well. 

1556
01:35:39,100 --> 01:35:42,500
And when they go into, like the 
Showcase later they add these 

1557
01:35:42,500 --> 01:35:47,800
horrid extension cord that you 
do you like the hair, it looked 

1558
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:51,800
like a mullet, that was true. 
So like revived or not, because 

1559
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:54,000
it's just too pollitos. 
Like two little strands of hair.

1560
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:57,200
It's not even like a snot. 
It's tear, it wasn't like 

1561
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:00,500
layers. 
You know what I'm saying? 

1562
01:36:00,500 --> 01:36:02,500
Like, if you're going to do 
that, you have to put like 

1563
01:36:02,500 --> 01:36:06,000
multiple layers that it wasn't 
just like her Kirill hair and 

1564
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:09,500
then long extensions. 
Again, the budget was limited 

1565
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:13,300
and very it looked awful. 
And she looked terrible. 

1566
01:36:14,100 --> 01:36:15,600
She saw so, talking about 
terrible. 

1567
01:36:16,100 --> 01:36:20,000
She starts dancing, too. 
I think fly on the Wall by Miley

1568
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:23,600
Cyrus. 
There's a early episode. 

1569
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:28,300
She's dancing, dip. 
All of those dancing sequences 

1570
01:36:28,300 --> 01:36:31,500
and scenes were really bad. 
Like I know Mom can't dance and 

1571
01:36:31,500 --> 01:36:35,300
like they're talented but the 
way that the either the camera 

1572
01:36:35,300 --> 01:36:38,200
work or the way that they didn't
have enough time to practice 

1573
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:41,700
those dance sequences, it wasn't
good like I don't know what was 

1574
01:36:41,700 --> 01:36:44,400
it like sharp, it wasn't clean 
choreo. 

1575
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:48,400
It was very messy and very like,
but they were trying to make up 

1576
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:50,100
her with some of the Editing 
that they were doing. 

1577
01:36:50,100 --> 01:36:54,200
It was like cutting back to make
it worse which made it worse in.

1578
01:36:54,500 --> 01:36:58,000
Yeah, it wasn't for these being 
real Idols. 

1579
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:02,200
I didn't feel at all but they 
were dancing to the caliber that

1580
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:05,000
they should be. 
It was giving like the So You 

1581
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:08,000
Think You Can Dance contest and 
that like cannot dance and is 

1582
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:10,200
still going to audition, but 
it's just getting airtime 

1583
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:13,900
because the show needs diversity
or whatever or links up the butt

1584
01:37:13,900 --> 01:37:15,500
of the joke. 
That's what I was giving. 

1585
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:21,300
There was a lot of Butt of the 
joke like meta hilarity that was

1586
01:37:21,300 --> 01:37:25,300
happening throughout the show. 
And there was, I think there was

1587
01:37:25,300 --> 01:37:30,800
like a jyp song that they 
played, don't leave me early on 

1588
01:37:31,500 --> 01:37:38,700
and they started playing what 
was it like Genie by SNSD as 

1589
01:37:38,700 --> 01:37:40,100
well. 
They were dancing to that song 

1590
01:37:40,100 --> 01:37:44,100
outside of the chicken shop. 
Like this is like current stuff 

1591
01:37:44,100 --> 01:37:49,200
and if you don't know who jyp 
was you wouldn't get The needle 

1592
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:52,400
drop of his 90s song, you know 
what I'm saying? 

1593
01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:59,600
There was also a lot of like If 
you know, you know type of jokes

1594
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:04,300
about being a trainee like the 
yeah, the jyp test dance thing 

1595
01:38:04,300 --> 01:38:06,100
that they deal with like the 
wave-like. 

1596
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:09,500
Only funny part of jyp being 
there. 

1597
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:11,500
Like the only time that I was 
like, okay I would have been 

1598
01:38:11,500 --> 01:38:14,100
fine if you were here for this, 
just one scene but the rest of 

1599
01:38:14,100 --> 01:38:16,300
it. 
But because at that point, like 

1600
01:38:16,300 --> 01:38:20,300
they kind of showed take you on 
a little bit and he really could

1601
01:38:20,300 --> 01:38:23,700
not hold his laughter. 
Yeah, because he was just like 

1602
01:38:23,700 --> 01:38:25,800
this is this is my life right 
now. 

1603
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:27,400
Just you might not have seen 
those. 

1604
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:30,400
This was more like Kpop content,
but I think I came out last 

1605
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:33,400
year, like rain, when to see 
stray cats. 

1606
01:38:33,900 --> 01:38:37,900
And he kind of talked about the 
backstory of that of, like jyp a

1607
01:38:37,900 --> 01:38:42,400
strain to help him with like a 
choreography training program 

1608
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:45,400
for trainees. 
And then he was the one that 

1609
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:47,700
came up with this. 
Like wait, wait. 

1610
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:53,000
And like every jyp trainee has 
to master that in order for them

1611
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:58,100
to be able to remain and be 
Right. 

1612
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:02,900
So that's why that's a big joke 
for like the idol Community or 

1613
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:06,500
whatever people in the jyp know 
I've heard of the wave. 

1614
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:09,000
I don't think I've seen that 
Rain video though. 

1615
01:39:09,100 --> 01:39:10,900
So I definitely have to go back 
and watch that. 

1616
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:15,400
But I mean, I'm 2012. 
Did I know that that was a 

1617
01:39:15,407 --> 01:39:16,200
thing? 
No, no. 

1618
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:21,600
Of course, it's the girlies that
know, and the ones who don't 

1619
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:25,500
like shit out of luck. 
Yeah, like oh sorry. 

1620
01:39:25,500 --> 01:39:26,800
I was gonna go ahead there 
scene. 

1621
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:28,100
So you can finish I thought 
here. 

1622
01:39:28,300 --> 01:39:29,300
No. 
No, go ahead. 

1623
01:39:29,900 --> 01:39:32,700
I was just gonna say how, like 
Jason wasn't at the actual 

1624
01:39:32,700 --> 01:39:35,200
showcase, and he still made the 
group. 

1625
01:39:36,300 --> 01:39:38,700
Yes. 
Like I just 

1626
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:55,900
like in the first episode when 
they're like, or was it the 

1627
01:39:55,900 --> 01:39:58,600
second episode when they decided
they're going to go to Kieran 

1628
01:39:58,700 --> 01:40:02,200
High School when Becky like does
a split and she's like, see I 

1629
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:05,100
could make it to and it's like, 
okay, so you're going to just do

1630
01:40:05,100 --> 01:40:30,100
a split and not gonna get you 
Well, I'm the arch nemesis Becky

1631
01:40:30,300 --> 01:40:32,700
unforgivable. 
He's so good looking at. 

1632
01:40:32,700 --> 01:40:34,300
Okay. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

1633
01:40:34,300 --> 01:40:36,800
He's like, oh my dad would have 
liked taking me to the US. 

1634
01:40:37,100 --> 01:40:38,500
Sir, you would have found your 
way back. 

1635
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:40,900
I am done with you. 
That is treason. 

1636
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:44,700
That is an ox top. 
You know that is absolutely how 

1637
01:40:44,700 --> 01:40:49,700
I feel felt Then and Now on 
re-watch that Tech did some like

1638
01:40:49,700 --> 01:40:55,500
unforgivable like fully sins 
here and not the anything was 

1639
01:40:55,900 --> 01:41:00,000
directly. 
You know, it was not malicious 

1640
01:41:00,500 --> 01:41:05,400
but he should know the meaning 
of these things, right? 

1641
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:10,100
Performing with Becky abandoning
the team debuting without them. 

1642
01:41:10,100 --> 01:41:13,400
Even though he like was like, oh
let's promise to be on the same 

1643
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:16,400
stage together and perform 
together whatever, like he just 

1644
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:20,000
like completely went solo and 
all this stuff. 

1645
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:23,500
So, another text that I sound 
louder while I was watching, was

1646
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:26,000
this entire show, could have 
been one episode had, they 

1647
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:30,300
actually like texted each other 
and Absolutely 100% was like, 

1648
01:41:30,300 --> 01:41:32,400
hey, let's communicate talk to 
you later. 

1649
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:34,700
Like my dad's about to kick me 
out of the country and kidnap 

1650
01:41:34,700 --> 01:41:36,800
me. 
Like, you know, it's just, 

1651
01:41:36,900 --> 01:41:40,000
there's something so annoying 
about text character when it 

1652
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:42,900
comes to those, like Middle 
episodes where he's at odds with

1653
01:41:42,900 --> 01:41:45,800
Susie and the rest of the 
underdog kids in the regular 

1654
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:48,600
prep class. 
Because he's that guy that's 

1655
01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:50,500
like less talk. 
Like every time you see me like 

1656
01:41:50,500 --> 01:41:54,000
let's talk, let's go here to 
talk and I'm like that is so 

1657
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:55,100
freaking annoying. 
You ever had? 

1658
01:41:55,100 --> 01:41:57,300
Like a let's talk person your 
life. 

1659
01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:00,800
Looks like there's nothing to 
talk about like we're done. 

1660
01:42:04,500 --> 01:42:07,800
Oh my God. 
I was so annoyed and also how 

1661
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:09,700
they like debuted and then 
they're perfect. 

1662
01:42:09,700 --> 01:42:11,900
And they're winning like music 
shows for six months and then 

1663
01:42:11,900 --> 01:42:13,500
they come back. 
And they're like, guys, we can't

1664
01:42:13,500 --> 01:42:16,200
graduate if we don't. 
Like when there's nothing on 

1665
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:19,300
spreading hours, we don't have 
enough credit hours to graduate 

1666
01:42:19,300 --> 01:42:22,500
from this bogus school. 
So you have to go back and start

1667
01:42:22,500 --> 01:42:30,000
taking classes again. 
My I just remembered know 

1668
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:35,200
because, like, I just went back 
to like the other the other side

1669
01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:39,300
of the story with the teacher, 
the dad, and the mom owned the 

1670
01:42:39,300 --> 01:42:44,900
fact that this father left or 
left his two, daughters in Korea

1671
01:42:44,900 --> 01:42:48,300
by themselves, with his 
ex-wife's. 

1672
01:42:48,300 --> 01:42:53,700
Like, I don't know, if this 
doesn't make any lick of sense, 

1673
01:42:53,700 --> 01:42:58,000
is that Susie's back story is 
that her dad fucking I fled the 

1674
01:42:58,008 --> 01:43:03,300
country and was trying to Stage 
a comeback of his own and get 

1675
01:43:03,300 --> 01:43:08,600
back on his feet, financially in
the States but he abandoned his 

1676
01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:13,000
two kids in Korea and was like 
why don't you guys go State not 

1677
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:16,700
with family or some other like 
person that he knows good? 

1678
01:43:16,700 --> 01:43:19,500
Well enough. 
He was like, why don't you stay 

1679
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:24,700
with this man? 
Who owes me all supposed to do? 

1680
01:43:24,700 --> 01:43:29,100
Steer your mom. 
And had an affair with your mom.

1681
01:43:33,100 --> 01:43:36,700
And, you know, I still don't 
understand if they knew that she

1682
01:43:36,700 --> 01:43:39,700
died, or if they just thought 
that she liked left them. 

1683
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:43,300
No, no, they knew that she got 
sick and died but they just 

1684
01:43:43,300 --> 01:43:56,800
didn't have this whole getting 
sick and dying to live during 

1685
01:43:56,800 --> 01:44:01,100
this Was babies. 
He has sung the child character,

1686
01:44:01,100 --> 01:44:03,800
the child actors. 
Oh yes, and her little sister 

1687
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:06,000
there. 
He cannot seen like the fact of 

1688
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:08,500
how much she loved Tech and like
would kiss him every chance that

1689
01:44:08,500 --> 01:44:10,200
she could. 
And that's the end of the end 

1690
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:12,800
were like she's holding not at 
the end but like when she's so 

1691
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:16,000
little she's holding text hand. 
And so he on goes for it and she

1692
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:18,500
goes black and like a knocks it 
out of the way. 

1693
01:44:18,500 --> 01:44:21,300
I was like, oh my queen like 
that little child was 

1694
01:44:21,300 --> 01:44:23,200
everything. 
So that was my third and final 

1695
01:44:23,200 --> 01:44:26,400
reason to live and that. 
Yeah, she's very much a Vibe. 

1696
01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:28,300
The Unseen Was a little weird 
though. 

1697
01:44:28,300 --> 01:44:31,300
A little crazy with all grown up
and she was like, yeah. 

1698
01:44:31,300 --> 01:44:32,900
Okay, hold on. 
Let's let's pause on that. 

1699
01:44:32,900 --> 01:44:34,900
Let's talk because I have a 
couple more things and then we 

1700
01:44:34,900 --> 01:44:37,000
can get to the ending scene in 
Little Rock this episode. 

1701
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:42,700
So, you said in the pre, in the 
general non spoilery section, we

1702
01:44:42,700 --> 01:44:45,700
talked about other 2 p.m. 
members that made an appearance 

1703
01:44:45,700 --> 01:44:48,800
in the show and it's cause there
were these crazy cameos. 

1704
01:44:48,900 --> 01:44:53,400
Like up the other members 
Nichkhun made his Cameo dressed 

1705
01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:57,000
as like Romeo lying on the 
ground pretty sleepy. 

1706
01:44:57,100 --> 01:44:59,700
Playing dead. 
And then, they also had this 

1707
01:44:59,700 --> 01:45:04,000
score p, played it on his phone,
a Franco, zeffirelli's Romeo and

1708
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:08,400
Juliet. 
So that famous score was playing

1709
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:12,900
on his phone and then I felt 
like the whole jingle that he 

1710
01:45:12,900 --> 01:45:15,600
was a part of because that's 
when these soul I use voice like

1711
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:19,400
do this. 
Sing sing this jingle to sell. 

1712
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:21,000
I think it was a cell phone or 
something. 

1713
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:22,700
Yeah. 
Okay. 

1714
01:45:23,700 --> 01:45:27,300
That whole thing reminded me of 
like The Lollipop Song from back

1715
01:45:27,300 --> 01:45:30,800
in the day, you know Lollipop 
song with I recently heard about

1716
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:32,800
the lollipop thing but I don't 
know what it is. 

1717
01:45:33,100 --> 01:45:39,300
Me neither okay So in a nutshell
I'm actually like looking it up.

1718
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:42,500
Oh know if I look up lollipop 
just give me a little Wayne. 

1719
01:45:42,500 --> 01:45:49,200
That's not the right thing. 
Lollipop with big bang and 21. 

1720
01:45:49,300 --> 01:45:55,700
Okay. 
So this is weird. 

1721
01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:58,200
So there's a song called love, 
okay. 

1722
01:45:59,900 --> 01:46:03,400
Oh my God, there's obviously on 
it while they were asking her 

1723
01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:09,500
like oh, you know like the 
iPhone this was out. 

1724
01:46:09,500 --> 01:46:11,100
So when you debuted what was the
phone? 

1725
01:46:11,100 --> 01:46:13,700
And she goes lollipop and I was 
like I don't know, I don't know.

1726
01:46:13,700 --> 01:46:16,400
I'm not an okay. 
So this is the first paragraph 

1727
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:20,300
of the Wikipedia so it's 
legitimate information. 

1728
01:46:21,300 --> 01:46:25,500
Soak a lollipop is a song by Big
Bang in 21 created to promote a 

1729
01:46:25,508 --> 01:46:30,200
cell phone by LG Scion, it 
interpolates a 1958 Lollipop 

1730
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:32,700
written by Julius Dixon. 
And Beverly, Ross song, achieves

1731
01:46:32,700 --> 01:46:34,200
top spot on the various online 
charts. 

1732
01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:39,200
It was like super popular and a 
lollipop is used to debut 21 

1733
01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:43,600
unofficially as it does not 
serve technically as their debut

1734
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:45,600
single. 
So then they followed that up 

1735
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:47,300
with their official debut song. 
Fire. 

1736
01:46:47,500 --> 01:46:50,700
Which is, if have you seen the 
music video for a lollipop? 

1737
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:53,000
Oh my God. 
Okay, so this was like a whole 

1738
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:57,300
freaking thing. 
This is back in 2009, right? 

1739
01:46:57,400 --> 01:47:01,700
They basically used this custom 
song Ang this custom jingle so 

1740
01:47:01,700 --> 01:47:07,000
to speak, lollipop with big bang
and 21 singing this song to 

1741
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:09,200
promote this phone. 
And if you look at the music 

1742
01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:12,500
video, it's like a commercial 
for this phone for this LG phone

1743
01:47:12,500 --> 01:47:16,200
or whatever. 
This doesn't ring any bells at 

1744
01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:17,400
all. 
No, no. 

1745
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:19,900
We haven't scared. 
Like again, I only know that 

1746
01:47:19,900 --> 01:47:22,500
it's CL and 21 because I just 
watched the interview like two 

1747
01:47:22,500 --> 01:47:23,800
days ago, where she mentioned 
it. 

1748
01:47:24,300 --> 01:47:25,600
Okay. 
So that's what she's talking 

1749
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:29,200
about is this LG Sion phone or 
whatever and lollipop. 

1750
01:47:29,300 --> 01:47:32,900
I encourage you to anyone, 
listening to look up the song, 

1751
01:47:32,900 --> 01:47:38,600
but lollipop, and this part of 
this show Dream High where they 

1752
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:43,100
are taking like this jingle and 
promoting a cell phone with to 

1753
01:47:43,100 --> 01:47:46,400
K-pop Idols, essentially. 
Is to a tee. 

1754
01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:50,500
What lollipop was got it. 
Okay. 

1755
01:47:50,900 --> 01:47:56,000
Wow, you see, you can see the 
girl it's just, you know, I 

1756
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:59,600
guess. 
Yeah, I guess we have to talk 

1757
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:04,700
about the God of dance. 
Oh God sequence with jyp in this

1758
01:48:04,700 --> 01:48:08,400
red silk suit, dancing to 
Michael Jackson's Billie Jean. 

1759
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:16,000
I definitely fast forward over 
that this time around. 

1760
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:19,600
I quit watched I watched judging
Lee. 

1761
01:48:23,300 --> 01:48:25,700
I don't know who this man thinks
he is. 

1762
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:29,100
Right? 
Right. 

1763
01:48:29,100 --> 01:48:31,500
I couldn't. 
That's that's my thing too. 

1764
01:48:31,500 --> 01:48:36,900
Is like he thinks he's hot shit.
He really, really, really done. 

1765
01:48:36,900 --> 01:48:38,400
He does. 
Hmm. 

1766
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:43,500
I'm sorry for his did a whole 
concert in New York and La where

1767
01:48:43,500 --> 01:48:45,900
they ended up having to put the 
tickets on Groupon and giving 

1768
01:48:45,900 --> 01:48:49,500
them out for free, just to be 
able to fill the venue somewhat 

1769
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:53,900
and he's out here like posting 
whenever his stupid song came 

1770
01:48:53,900 --> 01:48:56,700
out, the groov box on and he's 
like, I gotta get, gotta get 

1771
01:48:56,700 --> 01:48:59,000
with like the stupidest fucking 
Corey of all time. 

1772
01:48:59,300 --> 01:49:03,100
He like some people were like 
posting challenges actually. 

1773
01:49:03,100 --> 01:49:06,500
Like you, I don't know why 
trying to get his attention and 

1774
01:49:06,500 --> 01:49:10,400
then he like posted and he's 
like here, here's a Toriel to 

1775
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:15,200
help people like yourself. and 
like, he actually thinks he is 

1776
01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:21,500
better than literally anyone 
like it's terrible. 

1777
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:28,500
He's got a complex. 
Yeah, but in that saying that 

1778
01:49:28,500 --> 01:49:33,800
same episode, The Girl Who Stole
I use voice is like, who is 

1779
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:35,000
that? 
Girl, I've never seen her around

1780
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:39,900
here before. 
It's I you And Jason is she's 

1781
01:49:39,900 --> 01:49:42,300
like taking a oh just because 
you lose some weight doesn't 

1782
01:49:42,300 --> 01:49:46,400
mean you can debut and he goes 
well you debuted and you're 

1783
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:48,700
talentless singer. 
So he's like if you're a 

1784
01:49:48,700 --> 01:49:51,200
five-second thing or whatever. 
Yeah, that was very that was a 

1785
01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:55,000
good burn. 
That was like, oh my God. 

1786
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:59,000
I love that burns so much. 
I thought it was a plus plus 

1787
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:01,700
it's up there for me with sing 
to me. 

1788
01:50:01,700 --> 01:50:05,600
Paulo just like one of the 
sickest Burns in history. 

1789
01:50:05,600 --> 01:50:09,600
It's like so stupid, I have This
weird list in my head, okay? 

1790
01:50:11,500 --> 01:50:16,600
And, you know, when he said that
a couple of Idols came into my 

1791
01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:18,700
mind. 
Oh God, that are. 

1792
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:21,600
Who were they named them? 
Oh, I'm not gonna do that. 

1793
01:50:22,900 --> 01:50:32,700
Oh no. 
Some people don't mind. 

1794
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:35,300
You know, what I wrote down this
is just stupid, but I just saw 

1795
01:50:35,300 --> 01:50:41,600
it and I made me laugh that 
Becky went Showgirls with the 

1796
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:43,400
Pearl. 
Spilling thing with like with 

1797
01:50:43,400 --> 01:50:47,000
the Thumbtack in the shoe and 
all the other like nasty things 

1798
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:50,700
that she did during the show, 
like going back to your thing of

1799
01:50:50,700 --> 01:50:55,000
like forgiving her for literal 
assassination attempts, right? 

1800
01:50:55,000 --> 01:51:02,200
And they're both of those 
characters were Redeemable, it's

1801
01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:04,000
true. 
Did you feel any type of way 

1802
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:11,800
about the Dream High song? 
Yeah, I mean, it's it's good for

1803
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:14,300
what it was, I guess. 
Like, I'm not going to play it 

1804
01:51:14,300 --> 01:51:17,500
but maybe I should add a lot 
more Nostalgia for it because 

1805
01:51:17,500 --> 01:51:19,500
when they started playing it 
again and I was like oh my God 

1806
01:51:19,500 --> 01:51:23,000
it's the dream, my song. 
Yeah really excited about that 

1807
01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:27,200
was like yeah it was cute like 
it's better than the drama I 

1808
01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:31,100
guess for sure in terms of like 
quality and delivering what it 

1809
01:51:31,100 --> 01:51:34,600
like it did what I needed to do 
because Rama didn't. 

1810
01:51:37,700 --> 01:51:40,400
Wow. 
But last Cami, I think I have 

1811
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:45,100
here from 2 p.m. is the 
chan-sung Cambio where he's 

1812
01:51:45,100 --> 01:51:49,100
Meats like the house Noona in 
the snow boxer, back to the 

1813
01:51:49,100 --> 01:51:52,800
house and like covers her head 
with a scarf and she kisses him 

1814
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:56,400
because she's drunk and when she
pulls back it's actually like 

1815
01:51:56,400 --> 01:52:03,400
the nightclub Oishi. 
So I think I had a problem with 

1816
01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:07,000
it because there's an obvious 
large age gap between them. 

1817
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:15,200
Between ton song in 2011. 
And this this lady, I mean, she 

1818
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:17,600
had money problems and 
alcoholism was one of them. 

1819
01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:23,500
So she was an alcoholic. 
Yeah. 

1820
01:52:23,500 --> 01:52:26,000
So that was the chan-sung Cameo 
there. 

1821
01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:30,100
There was also a cameo by some 
of the Super Junior guys and the

1822
01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:33,700
radio station young Hawkins off.
They had like an interview show.

1823
01:52:33,700 --> 01:52:36,400
Well, yeah, with are you? 
Yeah. 

1824
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:42,200
I think a lot of my memories are
memories of Dream, High are of 

1825
01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:44,400
them in the classroom, learning 
different things. 

1826
01:52:44,400 --> 01:52:47,200
And one of them that I 
remembered vividly was the pitch

1827
01:52:47,200 --> 01:52:51,700
test of where they sing the site
read, and there's two of them, 

1828
01:52:51,700 --> 01:52:53,500
like, doing it at the same time,
they have to have my eyes and 

1829
01:52:53,500 --> 01:52:55,900
stuff and I was like that is 
super memorable memorable and I 

1830
01:52:55,907 --> 01:53:00,100
remember that whole thing that 
whole scene from when I had 

1831
01:53:00,100 --> 01:53:02,900
originally watched Dream High, 
the teacher who talked about 

1832
01:53:02,900 --> 01:53:05,200
like, cords and things. 
Like I thought that I was like, 

1833
01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:07,300
oh look, an actual education, a 
woman, what? 

1834
01:53:07,300 --> 01:53:12,100
Yeah. 
Yeah, so let's get into some 

1835
01:53:12,108 --> 01:53:17,300
endgame episodes because Becky 
gets sexually assaulted by the 

1836
01:53:17,300 --> 01:53:21,500
company president and text saves
her and then he gets cancelled 

1837
01:53:21,500 --> 01:53:23,600
and there's this whole Scandal 
because there's footage of him 

1838
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:26,100
beating up this their company 
president. 

1839
01:53:26,100 --> 01:53:33,100
And I watch this, you know, in 
2012, 2013 like way. 

1840
01:53:33,100 --> 01:53:36,600
This was shot way before the me 
to movement way before 

1841
01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:40,300
Weinstein. 
And all the tests were exposed 

1842
01:53:40,300 --> 01:53:47,200
and sent to jail and stuff, but 
This is sad as shit, okay? 

1843
01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:50,700
Like I thought this was really 
sad, and I think the only 

1844
01:53:50,700 --> 01:53:55,200
drawback to this storylines 
inclusion is that it is meant to

1845
01:53:55,200 --> 01:54:00,600
redeem Becky. 
Yeah, you know what, solder 

1846
01:54:00,700 --> 01:54:02,800
that? 
We went through me to on this 

1847
01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:05,400
out of the world, but Korea 
hasn't correct. 

1848
01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:08,700
And not just like women and girl
groups. 

1849
01:54:08,700 --> 01:54:15,900
But boys, and boy groups are 
also suffering heavily from like

1850
01:54:15,900 --> 01:54:20,500
complete mismanagement, 
misconduct and abuse some of its

1851
01:54:20,500 --> 01:54:26,600
sexual from their managers. 
So, that's really what is not 

1852
01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:29,500
guy. 
That it was ahead of its time 

1853
01:54:29,800 --> 01:54:36,100
and it's still comments heavily 
on the victim shaming that has. 

1854
01:54:36,100 --> 01:54:37,500
Yeah. 
Right. 

1855
01:54:37,500 --> 01:54:39,500
They didn't want the key to come
teachers. 

1856
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:41,900
Yeah. 
Those two teachers teachers are 

1857
01:54:41,900 --> 01:54:45,900
kind of irrelevant but they 
basically give the viewer 

1858
01:54:45,900 --> 01:54:48,700
commentary the whole time 
records show there like a good 

1859
01:54:48,700 --> 01:54:52,800
narration for like a pulse check
on what Korean people were like 

1860
01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:55,200
back. 
Then a lot of it really hasn't 

1861
01:54:55,200 --> 01:55:00,100
changed yet but they were really
like You know, giving everyone 

1862
01:55:00,100 --> 01:55:02,300
the opinions. 
I mean, I did in this case was 

1863
01:55:02,300 --> 01:55:06,000
mushy that she said it like more
specifically, because she was so

1864
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:09,700
attached to protecting Becky, 
but it was like, she has a 

1865
01:55:09,708 --> 01:55:12,000
Scarlet Letter. 
Now, like she won't be left 

1866
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:15,700
alone, no one will believe her. 
And even it happened, they kind 

1867
01:55:15,700 --> 01:55:18,200
of play it out of the TV station
of like, well. 

1868
01:55:18,200 --> 01:55:21,000
But, you know, the rumor is that
she was the one who seduced him.

1869
01:55:21,500 --> 01:55:25,600
So yeah, that's it's very real 
still today. 

1870
01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:29,100
So that's what ya get Super 
unfortunate. 

1871
01:55:29,200 --> 01:55:32,900
And what's sad is that you can't
say like oh things have changed.

1872
01:55:33,500 --> 01:55:37,300
Yeah, I know. 
So it's very sad to me. 

1873
01:55:37,400 --> 01:55:41,100
I think it was used to redeem 
both her and Tech because like 

1874
01:55:41,100 --> 01:55:44,000
him selflessly, basically 
throwing himself under the bus 

1875
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:47,200
and throwing his dad and his 
campaign under the bus. 

1876
01:55:47,600 --> 01:55:50,900
So yeah. 
Protect us girls, you know, 

1877
01:55:50,900 --> 01:55:56,800
dignity and image. 
Yeah, yeah that's a lot but 

1878
01:55:56,800 --> 01:56:01,500
teacher, she has As a great Arc 
as well because she's like the 

1879
01:56:01,508 --> 01:56:04,400
principal's daughter which was 
like a whole like kdrama reveal 

1880
01:56:04,400 --> 01:56:06,900
as well. 
But she started out as this very

1881
01:56:06,900 --> 01:56:10,800
cold and calculating teacher, 
she's cutting her losses with 

1882
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:15,300
students deemed unworthy or a 
lost cause and she, and she was 

1883
01:56:15,308 --> 01:56:19,300
the one who encouraged Becky to 
treat to win the Showcase solo. 

1884
01:56:19,500 --> 01:56:22,800
So over the course of the show, 
she's kind of learned the error 

1885
01:56:22,800 --> 01:56:26,600
of her ways and now subscribes 
to the same school of thinking 

1886
01:56:26,600 --> 01:56:29,100
as teacher Kang. 
You know, you should help the 

1887
01:56:29,100 --> 01:56:32,100
kids lift them up, encourage 
them and not trample, on their 

1888
01:56:32,100 --> 01:56:34,600
dreams. 
And their job isn't necessarily 

1889
01:56:34,600 --> 01:56:37,300
to be realistic. 
It's to be optimistic and to 

1890
01:56:37,300 --> 01:56:41,800
help them as much as they can. 
And, you know, it was nice to 

1891
01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:46,900
see her go through her own arc 
and be so supportive of Becky 

1892
01:56:46,900 --> 01:56:50,000
during her time of need towards 
during the whole sexual, 

1893
01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:53,400
harassment thing or sexual 
assault, Scandal that broke 

1894
01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:57,400
because she just simply told the
truth and just to get Tech out. 

1895
01:56:57,700 --> 01:57:02,600
Of hot water here because he was
getting lampooned fleetly. 

1896
01:57:03,500 --> 01:57:05,300
I didn't like the extreme to 
what she took. 

1897
01:57:05,300 --> 01:57:09,200
It her transformation again, the
whole like the flower clip at 

1898
01:57:09,200 --> 01:57:10,300
the on the top. 
No, no. 

1899
01:57:10,300 --> 01:57:12,400
That was too cutesy that but 
that is. 

1900
01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:14,600
That's a Trope. 
Yeah. 

1901
01:57:15,100 --> 01:57:20,800
And like just her character, the
end ventilation and the AQ, you 

1902
01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:25,100
know, it was too far like the 
pendulum swung to like far to 

1903
01:57:25,100 --> 01:57:27,600
the other side. 
I am. 

1904
01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:30,000
Understand why she ended up 
falling for mr. 

1905
01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:33,600
Teacher, savior person, and all 
of that. 

1906
01:57:33,600 --> 01:57:37,600
But she and her defense. 
So when she was like evil at the

1907
01:57:37,608 --> 01:57:40,800
beginning she didn't say she was
in favor of cheating because she

1908
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:42,800
wasn't, she was right. 
Okay. 

1909
01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:46,800
With lying to an extent and what
she told Becky was like this 

1910
01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:50,600
girl's lying. 
So don't feel bad about taking 

1911
01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:52,400
her spot. 
She didn't say go put a 

1912
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:54,400
thumbtack in her shoes so she's 
like right? 

1913
01:57:54,400 --> 01:57:57,500
We unable to do the thing. 
Uh-huh, when Becky, try to like 

1914
01:57:57,500 --> 01:57:59,000
turn. 
Turn that on her and be like, 

1915
01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:01,400
you're the reason why. 
Now, I don't feel anything when 

1916
01:58:01,400 --> 01:58:08,100
I try to murder people. 
That's not, that's not what she 

1917
01:58:08,100 --> 01:58:09,900
said. 
That's not what happened, like 

1918
01:58:09,900 --> 01:58:11,800
you you were falling a murderer 
before. 

1919
01:58:12,100 --> 01:58:16,400
Yeah. 
So yeah, absolutely related 

1920
01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:19,800
Concepts over here. 
One thing that I wanted to touch

1921
01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:25,000
on about Susie and Tech and 
Susie on which is like their 

1922
01:58:25,400 --> 01:58:30,600
love triangle is that they said 
Of tech as the female there. 

1923
01:58:30,600 --> 01:58:33,000
Sorry. 
That's of you the male lead, you

1924
01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:35,400
know, the person that she's 
going to end up with because 

1925
01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:40,300
he's just this archetypal like 
bad boy and they had all this 

1926
01:58:40,300 --> 01:58:42,900
history together. 
They met as children and he's 

1927
01:58:42,900 --> 01:58:46,600
just so cool and you just feel 
like they're going to end up 

1928
01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:48,800
together. 
She likes him for sure at some 

1929
01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:52,100
points throughout the show but 
Kim Soo hyun's character is set 

1930
01:58:52,100 --> 01:58:55,800
up as the second male lead and 
you never feel necessarily. 

1931
01:58:55,800 --> 01:58:58,200
They're going to end up together
because he's just so So pitiful,

1932
01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:03,100
he's not on the same playing 
level Aztec and they don't have 

1933
01:59:03,100 --> 01:59:08,300
all of this childhood history 
together, and I was stunned. 

1934
01:59:08,400 --> 01:59:11,900
The first time I watched Dream 
High, that she ends up with Kim 

1935
01:59:11,900 --> 01:59:15,000
Soo-hyun. 
It's not until the photocard 

1936
01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:17,600
comes up that like we know 
exactly how she feels. 

1937
01:59:17,600 --> 01:59:19,200
Like, I always knew she was 
confused. 

1938
01:59:19,700 --> 01:59:21,700
Hmm. 
But, and even loud and I were 

1939
01:59:21,700 --> 01:59:24,500
talking just before, like when 
we got on zum-zum to talk to you

1940
01:59:24,500 --> 01:59:29,000
today, like I just found out 
like 30, Seconds ago that you 

1941
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:32,300
know Tech was not the actual 
male lead like it didn't really 

1942
01:59:32,300 --> 01:59:35,000
register on the woman I'm like 
oh so I was like oh nice they 

1943
01:59:35,000 --> 01:59:37,000
ended up the show with like the 
second male lead and it's like 

1944
01:59:37,000 --> 01:59:41,800
oh no he was never the funnies 
lead he set up as the male bee. 

1945
01:59:41,800 --> 01:59:45,300
I still contend to this day that
they really wanted the audience 

1946
01:59:45,300 --> 01:59:49,900
to sort of roof for Tech and 
101st. 

1947
01:59:49,900 --> 01:59:53,000
Maybe not root for them but 
think that they were going to 

1948
01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:55,600
end up together. 
I was just trying to have a 

1949
01:59:55,608 --> 01:59:59,200
review, right? 
I was telling Kathy that this 

1950
01:59:59,200 --> 02:00:05,500
was the first series where I 
didn't go for the second male 

1951
02:00:05,500 --> 02:00:07,600
lead, which was Soo, Young's 
character. 

1952
02:00:07,600 --> 02:00:11,500
Like, I always just really like 
taken, even though he did a lot 

1953
02:00:11,500 --> 02:00:14,900
of terrible, terrible thought. 
Well, you were younger because 

1954
02:00:14,900 --> 02:00:20,700
Tech is a second. 
Oh, in a sense he is technically

1955
02:00:20,700 --> 02:00:22,900
the second really because she 
doesn't end up with him. 

1956
02:00:23,000 --> 02:00:25,100
Yeah, she ends up the suit. 
Look at that then. 

1957
02:00:25,100 --> 02:00:27,600
And when the cast, I saw it, 
like, I realized on Google. 

1958
02:00:27,800 --> 02:00:32,200
When you look for the cast in 
order, it's Susie and scallion 

1959
02:00:32,600 --> 02:00:35,300
like that is the the male lead. 
So now you're just being 

1960
02:00:35,300 --> 02:00:38,400
consistent with your because 
that NADA is considered because 

1961
02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:42,600
she did gum for the second male 
lead, even though he's honestly 

1962
02:00:42,600 --> 02:00:45,100
like if you look at his 
characterization, yeah. 

1963
02:00:45,200 --> 02:00:49,000
It would, anyone would think he 
was gonna end up with her? 

1964
02:00:49,000 --> 02:00:51,800
But yeah. 
So I was like, stunned that she 

1965
02:00:51,800 --> 02:00:56,100
ended up with like this country.
Kid, who's talking and dialect 

1966
02:00:56,100 --> 02:01:02,900
and is Going deaf and like has 
all of these like issues and 

1967
02:01:04,100 --> 02:01:05,800
confidence issues and things 
like that. 

1968
02:01:05,800 --> 02:01:09,200
Like Tech doesn't have like 
confidence issues at all. 

1969
02:01:09,200 --> 02:01:14,900
Like he's very much set as 
delicious. 

1970
02:01:15,400 --> 02:01:18,600
Yeah also have my back you 
should have ended up together 

1971
02:01:18,600 --> 02:01:21,600
for all that he protected her 
and say after honestly at this 

1972
02:01:21,600 --> 02:01:25,000
point I'm just thinking them not
not that I wanted it but I'm 

1973
02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:27,500
just like, I mean homie was 
writing for her. 

1974
02:01:27,700 --> 02:01:30,800
Better than their miconia for 
Beyonce at this point. 

1975
02:01:31,500 --> 02:01:36,200
I'm just saying like it was kind
of if they kept the show, going,

1976
02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:38,500
that would have ended up like 
happening at some point. 

1977
02:01:38,500 --> 02:01:41,800
I don't know. 
You make a good case though, do 

1978
02:01:41,800 --> 02:01:45,200
you make it? 
So let's talk about the time, 

1979
02:01:45,200 --> 02:01:48,300
Jump that happens. 
So whatever they get like 

1980
02:01:48,300 --> 02:01:53,200
through and they sort of Debut, 
they have a baby version of 

1981
02:01:53,200 --> 02:01:56,900
going viral because they did 
this flash mob thing and they 

1982
02:01:56,900 --> 02:02:00,400
were doing an online PR so that 
they could sell this Dream High 

1983
02:02:00,400 --> 02:02:03,200
group. 
And then they have their 

1984
02:02:03,200 --> 02:02:05,000
official debut performance on 
TV. 

1985
02:02:05,000 --> 02:02:09,800
Finally, when some of those / P 
d--'s see the the Groundswell 

1986
02:02:09,800 --> 02:02:11,900
that's happened because the 
group dropped out which was 

1987
02:02:11,900 --> 02:02:15,000
giving BTS before, BTS by. 
Yes. 

1988
02:02:15,100 --> 02:02:18,000
Yes, the group a group drop-down
that where we going to find 

1989
02:02:18,000 --> 02:02:21,700
another group to replace them in
like Dream High crew comes 

1990
02:02:21,700 --> 02:02:26,000
through. 
So that was all fine and good. 

1991
02:02:26,300 --> 02:02:29,700
A little ahead of its time I 
guess because in 2011 I guess 

1992
02:02:29,700 --> 02:02:31,500
flash mobs weren't quite a 
thing. 

1993
02:02:31,600 --> 02:02:34,700
I'm like they were a few years 
later, they were, they were 

1994
02:02:34,700 --> 02:02:37,800
flash mobs, I don't remember 
flash mobs, until a few years 

1995
02:02:37,800 --> 02:02:41,900
later being like a thing. 
I don't know, I feel like I saw 

1996
02:02:41,900 --> 02:02:45,400
a lot of flash mob content and 
college, so and yeah, saying, 

1997
02:02:45,400 --> 02:02:48,700
2007 to 2011, she know, same 
things. 

1998
02:02:48,700 --> 02:02:54,000
I do think that you may be in 
Korea, it wasn't maybe, I don't 

1999
02:02:54,000 --> 02:02:56,600
know. 
So, then we have a time Jump. 

2000
02:02:56,700 --> 02:03:01,300
I used the preschool or 
kindergarten teacher and Becky 

2001
02:03:01,300 --> 02:03:04,500
is now a teacher at Kirin Art 
School. 

2002
02:03:04,900 --> 02:03:08,800
She's taking the place of 
teacher, she who, and she does, 

2003
02:03:08,800 --> 02:03:11,900
like the same stunt with the 
Thumbtacks thing because she 

2004
02:03:11,900 --> 02:03:14,100
doesn't know originality. 
If I hit her in the face. 

2005
02:03:14,100 --> 02:03:17,200
Correct to make sense. 
I like this just tracks for her 

2006
02:03:17,200 --> 02:03:20,700
character because she's tried to
plagiarize the song earlier in 

2007
02:03:20,700 --> 02:03:22,300
the show. 
And now she's like taking the 

2008
02:03:22,300 --> 02:03:29,500
same same approach to teaching 
as teachers she Tech is a famous

2009
02:03:29,500 --> 02:03:33,200
artist. 
President Ma married the Noona 

2010
02:03:33,400 --> 02:03:40,000
character and had a kid with her
and Kim Soo-hyun is artist K. 

2011
02:03:40,200 --> 02:03:42,400
He's he won a Grammy or 
whatever. 

2012
02:03:44,900 --> 02:03:47,600
I think I have issues with just 
like the seat. 

2013
02:03:47,600 --> 02:03:52,200
The final scene, which is Kim 
soohyun and Susie's character. 

2014
02:03:52,600 --> 02:03:56,900
She's trying to convince him to 
go to the states and sort of 

2015
02:03:57,200 --> 02:04:01,400
become a bigger star than if he 
had stayed in Korea. 

2016
02:04:02,600 --> 02:04:07,300
And she tells him a version of 
like the Boys Over Flowers thing

2017
02:04:07,300 --> 02:04:11,200
which is why don't you go and 
like, improve on yourself and 

2018
02:04:11,200 --> 02:04:13,000
get, famous and become a great 
man. 

2019
02:04:13,000 --> 02:04:18,100
And then I'll consider being 
with you even though she clearly

2020
02:04:18,100 --> 02:04:23,700
like loves him already and 
That's, that's it. 

2021
02:04:23,700 --> 02:04:28,700
Like, they have a repeat of the 
of the makes no sense bus scene 

2022
02:04:28,800 --> 02:04:32,600
where she's now running after 
the bus, they tried to have 

2023
02:04:32,600 --> 02:04:35,800
like, that full circle moment, 
but that it is Messy as hell 

2024
02:04:35,800 --> 02:04:38,300
with. 
It was like the flash box on the

2025
02:04:38,300 --> 02:04:41,400
forwards and it was a little 
hard to understand. 

2026
02:04:41,500 --> 02:04:45,600
It was, yeah, yeah. 
I remember being fooled. 

2027
02:04:45,800 --> 02:04:50,200
I still don't understand where 
Susie's character ended like, 

2028
02:04:50,500 --> 02:04:51,000
yeah. 
What? 

2029
02:04:51,000 --> 02:04:53,800
She like a famous. 
Does she go back to opera 

2030
02:04:53,800 --> 02:04:56,000
singing? 
I was very confused. 

2031
02:04:56,000 --> 02:04:58,900
It's unclear. 
I think it's ambiguous and I 

2032
02:04:58,907 --> 02:05:00,800
don't know why they would make 
it so ambiguous. 

2033
02:05:01,200 --> 02:05:04,400
She was sick a celebrating her 
100th performance concert. 

2034
02:05:04,400 --> 02:05:09,200
Yeah or 100th concert and then 
she sings the dang Walk to 

2035
02:05:09,200 --> 02:05:12,000
Remember Song again. 
Yeah. 

2036
02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:15,200
To honor of sue him because his 
character is like you know 

2037
02:05:15,200 --> 02:05:19,300
living his bus but also lonely. 
Yeah, it's like they didn't work

2038
02:05:19,300 --> 02:05:21,700
out because they both focus on 
their careers. 

2039
02:05:23,700 --> 02:05:26,600
It's weird. 
It's frustrating because it 

2040
02:05:26,600 --> 02:05:28,500
shouldn't. 
We shouldn't be guessing at it, 

2041
02:05:28,500 --> 02:05:30,700
you know, and then I use 
character. 

2042
02:05:30,700 --> 02:05:32,500
Did I want to go pills look to 
the thing? 

2043
02:05:32,500 --> 02:05:35,100
Because she didn't want to be 
photographed because a now she 

2044
02:05:35,100 --> 02:05:37,500
had gained weight again. 
She gained back weight and he 

2045
02:05:37,508 --> 02:05:40,200
was like, all right fine, like I
guess Netflix and chill. 

2046
02:05:40,800 --> 02:05:44,800
Truly truly, truly the only 
character that achieved her goal

2047
02:05:44,900 --> 02:05:55,500
was Susie's little sister. 
Parkland, been in this Cameo as 

2048
02:05:55,500 --> 02:06:00,000
the little sister and she kisses
check on the cheek against 

2049
02:06:00,000 --> 02:06:01,200
early. 
She say what? 

2050
02:06:01,200 --> 02:06:03,400
She's like, yes, she knew what 
she wanted. 

2051
02:06:03,400 --> 02:06:08,100
Had marked her territory and I 
mean presumably, it's been what 

2052
02:06:08,100 --> 02:06:11,700
87 years ago? 
I thought I was a six-year jump.

2053
02:06:12,100 --> 02:06:14,600
Yeah. 
From the moment like the last 

2054
02:06:14,600 --> 02:06:17,900
moment that was that time, I 
don't know like something around

2055
02:06:17,900 --> 02:06:25,200
here so I guess she's now a 
teenager ER pakkun bin and so 

2056
02:06:25,200 --> 02:06:31,600
problematic. 
It's so problematic at least 10 

2057
02:06:31,600 --> 02:06:35,300
years it's good, it's over and 
Lindsay Wilmer. 

2058
02:06:36,400 --> 02:06:47,600
Mandy will stray bullets in this
episode and 

2059
02:06:59,000 --> 02:07:03,100
All right. 
So the ending was a miss and 

2060
02:07:03,100 --> 02:07:05,000
there that's it. 
Like, we're at the end of the 

2061
02:07:05,000 --> 02:07:07,900
show. 
We're done, thanks. 

2062
02:07:11,300 --> 02:07:14,800
Did you guys have anything else 
to add to this? 

2063
02:07:15,500 --> 02:07:19,500
Think? 
Oh Lord. 

2064
02:07:19,500 --> 02:07:23,100
I'm appreciative that we that I 
watched a really bad drama 

2065
02:07:23,100 --> 02:07:25,900
because up until now I had been 
like, oh my God. 

2066
02:07:25,900 --> 02:07:30,800
Maybe I just like everything and
I don't have like a distinction 

2067
02:07:30,800 --> 02:07:33,700
or are like a temperature check 
thing but I do know. 

2068
02:07:33,700 --> 02:07:36,500
Now I know that I don't like 
certain things so thank you 

2069
02:07:37,000 --> 02:07:43,000
know. 
I wish that I could bestow like 

2070
02:07:43,100 --> 02:07:46,900
all of these years of like a 
Drama watching on other people 

2071
02:07:46,900 --> 02:07:50,600
because Sometimes the drama's 
nowadays are two. 

2072
02:07:50,600 --> 02:07:57,000
Good people can't like really 
parse out if anything was not so

2073
02:07:57,000 --> 02:08:02,300
great and I started watching 
during this era of kdrama we're 

2074
02:08:02,300 --> 02:08:07,800
like Dream High was very popular
and dream Heist, not a very good

2075
02:08:07,800 --> 02:08:15,400
show, it is passable, but but is
it like the best show ever? 

2076
02:08:15,900 --> 02:08:17,500
No is Camp. 
Rock. 

2077
02:08:17,700 --> 02:08:21,400
Like the best movie ever and 
there was a time where we could 

2078
02:08:21,400 --> 02:08:24,300
have like stomach to because of 
our age and right. 

2079
02:08:24,300 --> 02:08:28,100
That's what I'm saying. 
This feels like a step up, Save 

2080
02:08:28,100 --> 02:08:32,800
the Last Dance, High School, 
Musical Camp Rock type of movie.

2081
02:08:32,800 --> 02:08:36,900
I've said, type of show what 
this show made me conclude, was 

2082
02:08:36,900 --> 02:08:40,100
that I probably wouldn't have 
the best time watching kdramas 

2083
02:08:40,100 --> 02:08:43,700
from before 2015. 
Not to generalize. 

2084
02:08:43,700 --> 02:08:46,100
I'm sure there's great ones that
I could probably go back to, 

2085
02:08:46,100 --> 02:08:49,500
there are great ones. 
Yeah, it really misses an 

2086
02:08:49,500 --> 02:08:54,200
experiment right to also going 
back further than 2015 because 

2087
02:08:54,200 --> 02:08:58,200
so many people say they can't 
watch something pre 2015. 

2088
02:08:58,200 --> 02:09:01,800
I'm like you could just okay, 
you can do it, okay? 

2089
02:09:01,800 --> 02:09:04,700
If there's some really great 
dramas out there and there's 

2090
02:09:04,700 --> 02:09:08,700
some iconic, dramas like Dream 
High that, don't hold up. 

2091
02:09:08,800 --> 02:09:12,900
So and iconic doesn't 
necessarily mean good, right? 

2092
02:09:12,900 --> 02:09:16,800
Like, you know cultural reset 
for the time being or whatever? 

2093
02:09:16,800 --> 02:09:17,500
Yeah. 
Underneath. 

2094
02:09:17,800 --> 02:09:20,300
Hmm. 
So I think that's it. 

2095
02:09:20,400 --> 02:09:23,400
I want to thank you guys for 
coming on the show for watching.

2096
02:09:23,400 --> 02:09:27,500
Dream, I in its entirety and 
just going on this journey with 

2097
02:09:27,500 --> 02:09:31,100
me. 
I think it was very eye-opening 

2098
02:09:31,200 --> 02:09:34,500
to Return to Dream High for both
me and Lauda. 

2099
02:09:34,500 --> 02:09:38,800
And it was probably I don't want
to say was a time-waster for 

2100
02:09:38,800 --> 02:09:43,700
you, Kathy, but I think it was 
educational at the very least, 

2101
02:09:44,200 --> 02:09:47,700
especially because you guys are 
so immersed in Kpop like, This 

2102
02:09:47,700 --> 02:09:52,800
is part of Kpop history to. 
Yeah no I don't regret it. 

2103
02:09:52,800 --> 02:09:56,800
I don't like as much as I have 
roasted it I'm enjoying roasting

2104
02:09:56,800 --> 02:10:00,900
it and I again I always like to 
be part of the conversation like

2105
02:10:00,900 --> 02:10:03,600
when Game of Thrones was really 
big like season 5. 

2106
02:10:03,800 --> 02:10:06,000
I wasn't watching Game of 
Thrones and I just watched like 

2107
02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:08,400
the first episode of season six 
just to understand what you're 

2108
02:10:08,400 --> 02:10:11,500
talking about. 
So I have this like general fomo

2109
02:10:11,500 --> 02:10:14,800
of wanting to know and wanting 
to have context. 

2110
02:10:15,000 --> 02:10:18,200
So now I have the context to 
Dream High so I Don't consider 

2111
02:10:18,200 --> 02:10:20,400
it a time waste at all at 
awesome. 

2112
02:10:20,500 --> 02:10:22,900
Yeah, awesome. 
Well, if you're listening 

2113
02:10:22,900 --> 02:10:26,700
online, you can find my girls 
Kathy and Lauda on all of the 

2114
02:10:26,700 --> 02:10:31,700
socials at em, a 2K podcast, and
listen to their pot. 

2115
02:10:31,700 --> 02:10:36,200
If you loved Kpop or in any way,
shape, or form, love kpop, 

2116
02:10:36,900 --> 02:10:39,200
listen to their show. 
It's amazing. 

2117
02:10:39,400 --> 02:10:45,100
They're super fun to listen to, 
and we got more concerts to see 

2118
02:10:45,100 --> 02:10:46,900
together. 
As a matter of fact, like we're 

2119
02:10:46,900 --> 02:10:49,900
still going, Owen. 
Yeah, not next week but the week

2120
02:10:49,900 --> 02:10:50,500
after? 
Yeah. 

2121
02:10:50,500 --> 02:10:52,100
Like a couple of weeks. 
Yeah. 

2122
02:10:52,100 --> 02:10:56,000
For more Kpop, or cake. 
R&B goodness. 

2123
02:10:56,000 --> 02:10:59,300
So, I want to thank you guys and
we're just we're gonna get out 

2124
02:10:59,300 --> 02:11:02,400
of here. 
Got more shows to watch more 

2125
02:11:02,400 --> 02:11:04,600
music to listen to thank you for
having us. 

2126
02:11:04,600 --> 02:11:06,400
Just, I really appreciate it. 
Thank you guys. 

2127
02:11:06,600 --> 02:11:10,400
Thank you so much. 
So this has been our show and 

2128
02:11:10,400 --> 02:11:12,300
I'm Jessica, and this has been 
the Dybbuk. 

2129
02:11:12,300 --> 02:11:28,000
He Rambles podcast three months,
Soon, as he does.