I'm Jessica and this is a TC presents.
Their Bucky Rambles. Were a couple of friends review
Korean. Dramas and today, I am joined by
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amazing. Um, I think if I just in case
people don't No, like, who you guys are?
Do you want to give like an intro and like, what's like your
favorite kdrama genres or like your favorite key drama?
If you guys want to do that, okay?
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You got to go. All right, so be, it has our
long story short, we fell in love with BTS separately,
somehow or another Nez randomly message me, me and her knew each
other from church. Long story we started quote talk
about BTS and the net. This is like, do you watch
kdramas? And I was like, yeah, I guess.
And by the time my first kdramas, my whole love.
I watch that. Don't remember it, but it's a
running joke on our podcast, I don't remember.
Um, but yeah. So me and her kind of bonded
over our love for. Hey, traumas.
And then a year later, we're like, oh, all of these kdramas,
we listen to ATC, listen to a lot of different of the kdrama
community. We were like, well, why don't we
do a podcast? And me and as for a couple
months, I kept saying that and nobody ever nobody, ever did
anything we do, you're serious. Yeah.
So almost you know, two years from that conversation where
podcast left but yes, my first one was my whole of first kdrama
don't remember it but will be re watching it but my Hollow love
is good. That's a good really good gay
job. That's what they tell me.
I don't remember. Yeah, you think that she didn't
watch the show at all like you would be untrue.
No memory of it at all. I'm like, why don't you remember
this person this scene? She's like, nope, I do not write
election. Oh man, all right now as yes.
Um, so my first kdrama was romance is a bonus book.
That's the way I got introduced to eat junk sucks leaving a
special place in my heart because of that show.
Yeah, that's my first. Man, like I don't know.
I was it was love at first sight with kdramas from that point.
I was like, I love this, I'm never leaving.
Like, I literally only want to watch kdramas.
It was I just loved it so much. So yeah, that was my first one.
Okay. Yeah.
You jung-sook in that is very cute.
It's a Noona romance. And yes, I'll tell you.
There is a bit of a scathing review blog review from myself
Yours, Truly, on the site because mostly because I have a
background in publishing. And so all like the publishing
stuff that happens in that Joe I'm like this is bullshit.
Like I was like Miriam. It's like they're
misrepresenting the industry like this is nonsense.
So yeah, I'm sorry guys. It was that's what feels like a
personal thing or just like it was like not accurate and I do
it. Yeah, like I don't know.
I was it wasn't it wasn't for me.
But anyway, I'm gonna do a little bit.
I did do a little bit of housekeeping, real fast, is it?
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Okay, yay. Okay.
So now we're going to get going on this drama, we all watched
while you were sleeping. Yay.
Okay. Then rocker timing finally.
Finally. Okay.
Yeah, no, because everyone's talked about this drama for to
no end and I feel like I've been left Now yeah, saying how you
watch this drama, so I'll sure why I didn't why I avoided it
after like all the stuff I'm about to say.
So I'll read the synopsis, get to the cast and all that and
then we can share our thoughts on While You Were Sleeping.
Okay? The my drama listen office
reads, a young woman with a with bad.
Premonition dreams meets two people who suddenly develop the
same ability namjoo lives with her mother.
A widow who runs a small restaurant jung-jae chime a
rookie prosecutor and his Younger brother move in across
the street. Since Hong, Joo was young.
She has had the ability to see the good and bad events before
they happen. However, she is unable to do
anything about them. One day dish on has a strange
premonition dream about an accident involving Hong Joo and
bu bum, a ruthless attorney. Who used to be John's tutor did
tend to science to interfere in the course of events and ends up
saving the lives of Hangzhou. And Han will talk a young police
officer when Jetton hanju and woo Tak, then start having
dreams about one another. They realize that their Now,
somehow, entwined, but can the three discovered the reason that
they were brought together and can they prevent the people
closest to them from getting hurt?
I don't know. We'll find out.
Okay, our medic reading about us.
Yes, I love the dramatic. Do you, this was really long,
I'm sorry. That was the episode 1.
All right, so while you were sleeping, originally aired from
September to November 2017. It's 16 episodes long as
directed by. By Autumn wine and he's directed
a bunch of stuff, including my love from the star dr.
Hotel de luna startup and currently Big Mouth, starring
Lee Jung Suk of course. So currently airing drama it is
gu it's thundering outside. I hope you don't hear that
anyway. Um, It Is co-directed by Park
soojin and she's directed. Why her doctor romantic and they
co-directed doctors together from 2016.
While You Were Sleeping, it was written by pocket.
Yeah. And she wrote startup, she wrote
Pinocchio, she wrote, I can hear your voice from 2013 and she
wrote Dream High from 2011. I've talked about dream, I like
in almost every of these, it comes up a lot so much.
Why? I don't know.
Wow, I'm not going to Trend. Yes.
So basically, this writer and these directors have worked
together before startup, doctors and Dream.
High of course, like a couple of Dramas already star.
Bae Suzy and she stars as not hongju, she was in start-up, she
was in a Dream High, Gu Family, Book, control of uncontrollably
fond bag of on a bunch of stuff, we covered start up on season 2
of the box. So if you want to scroll back in
your podcast feed, you can hear our thoughts about that.
I had Curtis from the infatuation podcast on for that
one and he was a little bit contentious.
So just beware that when he looks out that was a fun
episode. You think the Devil's Advocate a
lot and was like, you don't need to do this he's like I want to
make it more interesting. I'm like why do you say that?
Yeah. And then of course, when you
while you were sleeping also Stars e jung-suk, we've
mentioned him before he plays Drunk Kitchen, and he's been in.
I can hear your voice from 2013, you just rented it out.
One Doctor, Stranger Pinocchio, W which we cover on season one
of the podcast. Last romance is a bonus book,
your first kdrama and he's currently starring in Big Mouth.
I'm not sure when that was gonna end but it's 2022 show.
Yeah, we got some supporting characters, I'll run through
really fast. We have junk Haines as Hannah
attack. That's off a be loved him.
Yeah, he's had a really good few years here, he's been in
Snowdrop DP, one spring night. Something in the rain prison
Playbook. I'll have you know that if you
scroll back and your podcast feed you can hear Thoughts on
Prison Playbook because we just covered that one.
Also with Curtis also with Curtis from infatuation.
We've also done something in the rain review.
Yeah. Also one season two.
That's one. That one's with Caitlin from no
sleep for dramas and those have been really fun.
Oh my God, we've also covered Snowdrop.
That was the first episode of season 3 so don't forget.
Anyway, in case you guys don't know, we're like a drunken
podcast now. It literally did not intend to
cover this much drug and dramas, but here we are.
So yeah, he's amazing. So I not.
Yes. So we also have Eastern Europe,
as you bomb the attorney that we mentioned in the synopsis, we
have chem 1A as investigator Choi and he's the nation's
largest, she like he really is wonderful, man.
I'd love to meet him someday. Yeah, I've been in everything so
a few things I'll mention He wasn't start up as well so you
can again. Something we've covered, he's
been in strong girl doubling soon.
We also covered that on the podcast, he's been in wat Ong,
youth of May. He's been in Signal, which we
covered as well in season one of the podcast.
So we got it. We've also become a human, a
podcast last person I'll say is call Sony plays protion Sheehan.
Heymann is her full name in the drama and she's the star of my
Hallo love. Hey Ari.
I asked or y'all she remembered her.
I was like, that's the main girl from my whole of, don't you
remember? And she was like, you know, I
don't remember sorry. Okay.
So this was my whole love pour my little old.
I feel so bad for her because it's a very good drama and she
doesn't miss really not. Yeah.
Okay. So all this being said, we've
come to the end of our Cast and whoever's behind the lens.
What did you guys think of while you were sleeping?
Now, as you can see, we don't have to go all at once.
It's okay, okay, I'll go first. Okay, yeah.
So okay, so I thought the show was good.
I thought the show was good. I would definitely recommend it
to people. Okay, it has all the things that
I like to see in a kdrama because it has it has comedy.
As drama has like a Sprinkle of romance.
I also loved like the I guess like the episodic nature of it,
like every few episodes, your kind of exploring like a new
situation and a new story. I really like it when dramas do
that. And of course like I thought the
cast was so good and on the cast had like really great chemistry
with each other, but yeah, I thought was a really good show.
I would definitely recommend it. It's just I felt like as the
show's. Yeah.
But as the show went on I think that things did start to waver a
little bit. Like in the middle things kind
of started to kind of come apart a little bit for me personally
and I'll go into that like deeper later.
But yeah, like, I'm really glad I watched it though because it
was always on my list was like, you guys know was watching
kdramas? Your list is ever growing.
It's always growing. And it's like, you know, like
when am I ever going to be able to get to these older shows?
And there's newer shows current shows on watching and it's just
like it's like a never-ending existential crisis situation
like I'm never going to watch everything.
I want to see you. So I'm really happy I watching.
You asked us to come on and you know, review it.
But yeah. I definitely have some thoughts
like the intricacies of the Good.
Yes, no. I have thoughts as well.
We don't have thoughts Lori. What did you say?
So I watch, I started watching this in May before you asked us
and I was just, you know, in my freedom phase of kdrama.
I don't know what that means, but I still really watching it.
And I watched the first two episodes and as talk, she asked
me, like, what do you think? I'm just like, it's okay.
I'll get to it eventually. So, um, when just asked us to
come on the podcast, I'm like, okay.
Yeah. Yeah, I'll go back to watching
it and now I see why I didn't like continue watching it.
It's not my favorite drama y'all.
I'm just going to say that right now and we'll get into why
later. I did like seeing Han for 16
plus h because I'm gonna come and I did like the mean romance,
but I it was not an enjoyable watch for me and whenever we get
to sold you bottle readings, Minds isn't hi.
Okay, so I'll jump in here and give my general thoughts on the
show. I thought this show was going to
be amazing. Just baked yam the first episode
because same, I want a new episode.
Holy shit. This is amazing.
Yeah, good, right. Yeah.
It had so much, like, momentum and potential and I had the
tension going throughout it and you can sense the Romantic, you
know, couple like happening. And it just felt right like it
hit all the right notes and beat in the first episode.
Perfect. First episode, perfect villain,
like whatever and then it kept going and I was like, hmm.
I don't know about this show like, actually, I think that I
wasn't bought into Susie, and jong-seok as a couple.
Oh, my goodness, Jess. Thank you.
Wait. I was so nervous and I love
these ideas to talk about. Okay.
I don't think it's a secret that
Susie and jungkook's characters are supposed to be endgame, like
they're supposed to be together. Oh, yeah, you're the romantic
leads, right? So you kind of go into it.
You can't sense that this is where the writers are, the
writer wants to take it and then like a few episodes in.
I'm like, why do they like each other?
Right. You know, like I was like
where's the basis of? Like they're like love like why
does he actually a give her the time of day because she's just
seems so not delusional, but delusional like she's making it
seem like he's like after her and he's like doesn't want to
yeah do with her. So it goes from that to like 0
to 60 he like loves her. Yeah so it didn't seem
believable to me and that's saying something when it's a
fantasy show about like them having a premonition dream,
Eames and clear. So right, I thought they had a
really good villain and he kind of sold the last few episodes
for me because lutely, he was like a recurring like villain in
all of these episodic trials and cases that they're trying to
solve together and then it's like, like, where's the through
line? Like, how does this wrap up an
end? Like how does he get his
comeuppance and all that stuff? Like that comes into play final,
few episodes. So so, for most of the show's,
trying to recast Susie because I hated Susie in this role, oh, I
was like, so, I just think late this row.
Sing her Praises so hard in the startup episode.
I was actually kind of impressive like with Susie in
this episode is show then I get to the show.
And I'm like, why is Susie can like, it's just Susie like all I
could see was Susie and I couldn't see her character
hyungju, and I feel like she was just overpowering, you know, her
presence was just so overpowering in the show, her
celebrity was Whirring and I wanted someone with less like
baggage, you know, hmm. And like I just didn't like her
delivery of certain things that just seem like she wasn't doing
anything different and she has that like when she gets very
excited or whatever she always has the same Cadence for her
lunches. Oh yeah, look at that.
Yeah, like it's always been that Cadence.
Yeah, it's very excited. If she's upset or whatever and
I'm like, oh, that's like such a Susie is Like I don't want that
anymore, so I was very distraught by her and I recast
it in my head to maybe Han Sol é, from my name, or
nevertheless, like diarrhea dress because I wanted something
a little harder for the character because she's seen so
much, you know, right in her dreams and she has this guilt.
Mm, she puts blame on herself and so I'm like, I want to see a
little more of that tortured. Like Persona versus she's very
like happy-go-lucky sometimes and like, yeah, thanks things
lie. Very well and is very bubbly and
like I kind of want a little bit of a darker, more personality,
more Edge to her. Exactly.
So I thought upon solely or confetti.
Who does a really good job? Balancing both the light and
dark aspects of this character, which I was like, I think we
need someone with like that Vibe.
You know, that was my recasting that I For Susie.
Yeah, that I have a question. So you guys so comparing Susie's
character and start up to while you're sleeping.
What did you guys think? Because for me, they seem like
the same person exactly. Then I think that's what was
like throwing me off. Like yes, I forgot her name
wasn't startup but oh, it's okay, whatever, excuse me and
Steph. Yes, and Susan startup and
Susie. While you were sleeping.
I was a psych. There's I feel like there's the
same character. Yeah.
And that. Throwing me off as well, and I'm
like, but I felt differently if I had like some time, like a
little bit more time between when I saw start up and I saw
this or if I never saw startup. So I was thinking about that
too. When you guys, you guys see any
similarities? Can you say the same thing about
jong-suk though? Because I was telling you, how
his romance and it's a bonus book.
Condo was the same character to me, like the jokey and then like
really serious. But I don't know if that's just
how he the characters already. I'll save it.
Yeah. So I'll say this that I think
that he is doing much the same as some of his other characters
that he starred in and I'll say this that it's they're not
demanding much of these two actors, right?
I'm sure like there's nuances to every character and this plot
like goes gets very thin and then gets very thick at times
and it's right. No, a revolving door of
characters and scenarios that they have to overcome.
But on the whole, they're not flexing anything that we haven't
seen before, you know, right? The same sort of like a script
for a fantasy Romance. Take a drama like if feels like
beefer be a little bit like w. It feels a little bit like you
know, Susie stuff as well like startup.
Yeah. And I don't think it's a
coincidence because we're good we got the same writer from
startup we have yeah Dame one of the same directors from startup
as well, right? So like they're playing to
Susie's strains but at the same time we've seen this strength
already, right? Right.
Yeah. So I feel bad.
And again, like he you don't look as currently starring in
Big Mouth. Which again one of the directors
is on Big Mouth. True.
So yeah, there it's like too much like intertwining that it
doesn't feel they collaborate a lot.
Yeah. Yeah.
They've collaborated with these people many times before so and
I will say that, I feel bad that we saw start up first because
this came before start of this can be very wary for start-up,
right? So if we had seen it in order, I
kind of still feel Like we'd probably say the same thing that
we'd be like I'm not really sure like why she's playing the same
character feels like the same thing and yeah I think it's done
on purpose. Like they want this Vibe
playing. Yeah.
Playing to the strength. Yeah, yeah.
That's a good point. That's a good point though.
It was only. I've only seen romances one
spoke, of course. But I felt like this role.
I saw more sides to him. Like I saw likes it like, you
know, like especially like the Comedic side of him because I
didn't see like I'm a lot of that bonus book.
Something. Oh, I didn't know they could be
so loose and silly. Yeah, he's a little, you know?
Yeah, yeah. So I was just like, oh, that's
new. So, okay, but it is like there
are elements of like, you know, his character here that are
similar to most visible in this book, but I guess that's why
those directors really like them because it seems like they've
done a lot of like projects with those two actors and what they
really like Susie and you don't suck a lot big mouth.
I haven't seen any of the episodes but in the promos and
some of the clips that I've seen he is Seen that like really
harsh dark, you know, vengeful kind of character with the more
goofy light side of a character. So right, he's doing again, like
the same thing that he's doing in this show.
I'm big mouth came out. Oh my God, I can't do math,
three, four, five, five years. It's coming off five years after
right, while you were sleeping, right?
Yeah. This is a conversation to have
because I feel like people if they like startup or if they
like one of these other dramas you can come to this drama and
get more of the same. Yes.
Right. But if you're like us or
probably wanting something a little different, and I think
that's what we're getting at here.
Is that we weren't thrilled? We weren't surprised.
We weren't, you know, given a New Journey, right?
It's just act leap. Actually, it's a repast exactly
I think that's that's where like the I guess on the
discontentment is it's just kind of like, all right.
It's kind of more of the same type of thing.
Yeah, I'm sure. Okay, question that has nothing
to do with the plot. Well, so kind of to do with the
plot. Did you have you guys ever had a
vivid dream and what was it? Oh, and or to, you know,
piggyback off that question. Have you ever had a dream that
actually came true? Oh, oh, a really good question.
I'll go first because I, you know, I have a question in the
back of my head hurt. Ya.
So I had a friend. This hadn't happened to me, but
a friend of mine. Was like good friends with
another with another girl and she dreamt that the girl with
was pregnant and she liked hanging out hung out with her.
Not too long. After the dream was like man I
had this really Vivid dream that you told me that you were
pregnant and the friend was like oh and she was pregnant.
Wow! Amazing!
I mean, I don't know what she likes sniffed at how she sniffed
it out, how it happened. But like it cause it was true.
I have never had a dream come true on me.
I would freak out if I ever did, but I tend to have very vivid
dreams and, and when I have them, I just like, blurt them
out, like, whatever it was, and then I completely forget about
the dreams. So I went to my sister, I was
like, I have told you every single crazy dream that I've
had, like, what were your favorites and she listed two of
them. So one is very quick.
I don't know why we were sleeping in the same bed that
night but I was, she was like, I woke, we woke up.
But, you know, in the morning. Like, man, I had this crazy
dream and she was like, what was it?
And I was like, I lost my retainers, she does work.
Where did you lose them? She does.
And I go on the Titanic. My Vivid dream was that, I lost
my retainers on the Titanic Titanic.
They're sitting at the bottom of it like of the Atlantic.
And then the other dream that I really like, and she reminded me
of was, I told her this whole freaking dream that I had.
I watched this Steve Aoki documentary, you know the hmm.
Oh yeah. Yeah, whatever.
Hmm producer. So Steve Aoki documentary it was
very interesting and then I went to sleep that night.
I dreamt this really really intense Vivid dream where Steve
Aoki was my cousin and we went to his house.
It was me and my sister we went to his house to like hang out in
space. And all of a sudden he was
having this big party and they were like buses out front like,
bringing people in and taking people away.
And I was like, I don't think we should stay here.
Like it's to like, essentially we were leaving because it was
like too much going on. And he and Steve Aoki was
literally about was like, where you guys going?
Like, whatever? And I woke up and the feeling
was still within me. Like, deep-set.
I was like, 60, I woke up and I thought Steve Aoki is my cousin,
like, literally, I was like Steve Aoki like Evernote.
To my mind. So so this data do I need to
call in some Street? Like could this actually be
okay? There's like zero chance.
It's okay based on this stupid dream I had
and I recall it like even now Like, I have this deep feeling
that I have, but I'm cousins with teriyaki.
I do not like I'm actually crying.
Oh my God. Okay Ari while NASA finishes
great for covering. Yeah you have a dream.
If y'all, I mean I feel like you guys probably already knows
about me from listening to the podcast.
I don't have really good memory, but I feel like, I'm like the
same. Like, you just like if I listen
to something before I go to sleep, I don't like dream about
it. So I think me and as our own
like a 17 K-pop Those spills I would have, I would listen to
their music and then like, just something random with them like
eat it. Nothing involving each any
members, but it will be like, I'm listening to their song in
my dream and then, I'll wake up something really weird.
But I haven't, I don't think I've had anything come true or
like anything that I really vividly.
Remember though, ding. Yeah.
All right, Nancy. Do you have a meat for me?
Honestly, my dreams like I can't really point to one dream
because I just my dreams are so random and they just don't
really make any sense. It's like a lot of scene changes
and just like flying and like honestly, like just weird stuff
that I don't know where it comes from the morning.
I'm like, what was that? Like, I honestly my just have
weird random dreams like, and I, I can't point to one in
particular that I'm like, hmm, um, I'm trying to think of what
I dreamt about last week. I'll say one last week, but no,
yeah, yeah, go for it. Okay, this is another stupid
dream. So this was when I was like a
teenager, I think, and I was playing guitar at the time and I
in my dream, I was trying to get my guitar case with my guitar,
in it, into the trunk of my car, and I had a Mazda 3 at the time.
So it was like kind of a little bit, had to shimmy it in because
we yeah, bigoted are in the smoker anyway and someone came
to help me and it was Bill Murray, Bill Murray came out of
nowhere and was Like I let me help you put your guitar in
your, in your car house. And in my dream, I was like, oh
my God, you're bilberry. And I was so excited and I took
a selfie with Bill Murray in my dream and when I woke up, I was
like, oh shit. I gotta send that selfie to,
like all my friends and family that I met Bill Murray because
it was so deep like the incestuous, so deep that I was
like item. I met Bill Murray and I took a
selfie with him. So I went a literally went in my
phone. I was like looking for the
selfie. And I was like, oh no!
Oh my God! It was a dream.
Like I literally get the calm down was so harsh because I
thought I had met Bill Murray and so this day like I think
that dream was to real. Like it was too Vivid because
you know how Bill Murray like is like effervescent and like goes
wherever he wants it shows up, I hate weddings and stuff like
randomly so it was it's like within reason that like Bill
Murray would have been like in his parking lot that I was
trying to get my guitar in the car and I was sweet.
But did you were you watching something with him in it?
No Bill Murray up here. A drink.
There was no provocation just I was here.
I teach my beard anyway we've gone on a little bit of a danger
but that's okay. I initiated it.
Do you guys I felt like this show reminded me of like other
TV shows and movies that had like a similar plot line.
Do you, I was trying to like figure it out.
So here's what I came up with. Okay, okay.
Okay. These are cells.
Okay, other TV or TV shows and movies about premonition /
dreams. So, we have, yeah, the movie
Premonition with Sandy right in Tripoli, right?
I was thinking about that. Yeah, she's yeah, we have
butterfly effect with Ashton Kutcher and give me Smee that
movie, scary them, that movie F me up.
Okay? Okay, I can't see we have That's
So Raven. Just teach me.
Oh my gosh. Classic.
We have the character Alice Cullen from Twilight who can see
into the future. Oh yes.
That's that's his favorite movie.
Yeah. Favor we had our he's okay.
She hates it. Just wasn't like it was like oh
shit. We'll leave that at the.
Abel. So yay.
We have also Minority Report which is like a dystopian future
with Tom Cruise where he's like, yeah.
Arresting people. Based on crimes, they haven't
committed yet because the precogs and all that crap, like
it's like really interesting but already were then the last two I
like, couldn't stop laughing as I wrote them down.
So I'm going to try and get through this without laughing we
have next with Nicolas Cage. And Jessica Biel Okay, ever seen
that movie. Good, don't watch it, don't
watch it. It's okay.
So he can see a few minutes into the future, but he's a magician
in Las Vegas. Like that's how he uses his
skill. But with Jessica Biel's
character, the, you know, female leader, whatever, he can see
farther into the future. And like all of this stuff
happens where he's trying to like stop an apocalypse.
Oh gosh, I have feelings about Nicolas Cage, movies, Literally
the worst movie but I remember because it was so stupid, right?
It was so like dumb. And then I, lastly, I have Déjà
Vu with Denzel Washington. Oh yes, yes, yes, yes.
We're he like just I have wacky time.
Oh yes, for sure. What do you have Final
Destination? Because that movie and all of
them. Oh my God.
Right? Yeah.
Right. I cannot go past the truck on
the highway. Because of that movie.
Yeah, I think much like a one and a half of the because it's
like they have like multiple movies in that franchise like
the Final Destination franchise and they're all like really
gruesome crazy ass. Yeah.
That they have a good one Oriel. That's good.
It traumatized. Okay.
Perfect. Okay, is there anything else
that you want to add before I talk about the osce and then we
can give our scores. No, thanks.
Oh ok. Ok.
So I love this osc. I don't know how you guys feel
about the and see what. I love it.
It has actually two songs from Susie and two songs from each
jung-sook on the OST. Oh I don't know that he's saying
to me. Yeah.
And then my favorite song is the one from Henry which is all in
English. Oh Henry.
That was your the right time at the right time.
Okay. Okay, okay.
I like that one. So yeah, I love it.
And I will like, actually say that when the song came on.
The first time I was like, God, this sounds like Henry and then
I go look in the OSU on Spotify and I was like, yes it's
actually Henry. Like damn, I'm so good.
The city was built that boys. All right.
What did you guys give this show out of five Soju bottles.
Um, okay, so I did 3.5 out of 5 Soju bottles.
Okay, okay. Um, yeah, so I thought it was a
good show, I just didn't think it was a great show and like you
said, Jess, the first two episodes for me, I was like,
wow. Like this is I don't remember
what episode of our podcast were.
I'm talking about, it were real but like we're talking about how
we like just started the show and I'm just like, wow.
Like this is the best show ever. Like the first two episodes I
was like, this is amazing. Like this is going to be one of
my favorite shows. I No it and then like as things
went on, I was like huh? Okay.
And I was kind of bummed because I was expecting just of
expecting more. I was going to war but the
things they did well they did really well.
Yeah but yeah. Like I definitely have some
qualms but like I like I thought it was like a good child think.
It's a great show. It's not like I want to call it
like a favorite of mine so that's why I gave it like a 3.5.
I kind of like put it kind of like in the middle of the road
and like if I had to rank all The dramas that I've ever seen
like a kind of be land somewhere towards the middle because like
it was good. I'm glad I don't regret watching
it. I have no regrets because it was
on my list and I think it's kind of like one of those shows that
like you probably should watch but it wasn't a favorite.
So yeah, so 3.5, okay, I kind of broke the rules with Minds just
you may say, I don't know, I gave it to .89 Soju bottles.
How many as eight nine? I don't know.
Three. So I was just like, 89 sounds
great. Okay, that's all I got, that's
good. I'm gonna go with 30 give it
three and a half stars as well as because it had here's the
thing. My sister asked me today because
you watch the last two episodes with me and she was like do you
like the show? And I was like I do and I don't
Ryan I told her if I had watched this a few years ago, I would
have loved this. Like I would have been right up
my alley. Yeah, I'm watching it now like
after a few more seasons of having watch kdramas and having
watched these actors and other things and I'm just like this is
not like doing it for me, right? So I feel bad because I know for
a fact that I would have eaten the shit up like in 20 years
now. I'm like no.
Like this is not a yeah. Yeah.
Think we're jumping is always standard right dog and he's the
highlight of the whole Tire experience taught to you.
Talk about me, what's up? Yeah, but yeah, no, I agree
because I was thinking like, I feel like if I watched this like
early on in my journey, I probably would have been like
this is the best show ever. But I think, because I've seen
so many and I know like what these actors can do.
And I've seen, like, similar plots, like, done, done better.
I'm like, I know that something like, this could be done better.
I know. There could be like a tighter
story, so that's why I was like yeah, it's 3.5 so, yeah.
Okay. Can I make a request?
Best for you golf. I think that's very sad.
She may watch this eventually, but just based off your comments
for Susie, can both y'all watch uncontrollably van because I
love grunting them. That I've seen uncontrollably
fun. Did you like it?
Uncontrollable melodrama.
Oh, okay. So let's talk real fast about
the show before we get into spoilers for a while you were
sleeping. So, yes, uncontrollably funds is
very, very sad. Okay.
Does not have a happy ending for people who are like wandering or
should I watch this if you don't like happy, if you need the
happy ending, do not watch and uncontrollably fun.
Um, I felt that it was okay, right?
Because it's also her being like a journalist Like she was in my
room sleeping. Yeah, but it's just so much
emotions. Like running through the show.
I don't know if I would like necessarily recommend it to
somebody who's like, just in it for like the rom-com stuff.
Like, it's not a wrong. Yeah, I would love to re-watch
uncontrollably van to see how it holds up and how I feel about it
now. But I think at the time that I
was watching it, I was just like very calm Confuses the wrong
word but I was just like dumbfounded.
I was like, is this really happening?
You know, I was like what is going on?
This is getting way out of hand and then you just you're just
like okay I guess. Like that's that was the show.
It was just Like everything all at once.
Yes that is just that's like my top.
I think it's my top two it's what I love that drama.
Like it was number one for a minute.
Yeah I love that drama so much. I love like soaking and emotion
but then I need something happy after by Life beer emotion.
Like the same thing with not rain or shine just between
lovers. That's really like a lot too but
I don't know. I just I liked it and then the
ending I was just crying and I was like, oh good.
There's some crying B in While You Were Sleeping as well, but
we're just gonna get, we're going to turn ourselves
completely loose on the spoiler side so you do it.
You, if you're ready, let's do it.
We're going to head into spoilers right after this.
You want to come in? All right, we're on the other
side of spoilers, guys. So anything goes.
If you don't care to be spoiled on while, Sleeping then keep
listening. We're going to go all-in.
So ladies where would you like to start on this show?
I actually, for early on I was like this is kind of heavy on
the law stuff on the yes. You'd roll aspect of Law and Law
and Order or whatever. And yeah those are not my
favorite dramas. So anytime like that happens.
I'm like immediately kind of taken out of the drama a little
bit because I was hoping for a little more.
More fantasy side. And certainly there was like, a
lot of fantasy because of the dreams, the shared dreams.
But right, I'm not sure if I was necessarily too invested in the
whole paperwork there. He's a prosecutor side, right?
If you feel me, however, we did see some startup.
Actors in this show and of course, like startup came later.
So the domestic abuser husband from like early on he was in
Yeah, he was in start-up he was like the stepdad who was like
rich and stuff. Oh my God, I knew he looked
familiar but I don't do you to break like it.
He breaks his name plate. Like, on his desk.
Most, I've gotta remember. Yes, I was like, oh my God.
And then obviously Kim sohyun from love.
Alarm is armed. Sucks.
Don't watch Love alarm people terrible.
I have walked away I know run run don't walk away from level
or okay she is so I think that the bus explosion sequence.
Do you think that it's some other like kid and it's not it's
her. Yeah wild.
Yeah. It's like an extended flashback
for her kid and you think it's a like a little boy but it's not
it's her. That's a part of big reason why
I didn't like Susie and this role because Ken I imagine Susie
getting like a pixie cut and wanting to be a baseball player
in passing off as a boy and stuff.
Like no, again, no really dive into that really?
It was just kind of like, so, did you take have like a tomboy
face? Exactly.
She had like a tomboy phase and it never came back around to,
like, right stylus on this idea that like Susie was a tomboy.
And what like, she doesn't really follow baseball anymore.
Like, what's the deal? Like, how did she go from like
gun who I want to be a baseball player.
You now she's like a very voracious journalist, right?
Right. So I would have, we agree,
there's like no connection to them.
I guess, because of the trauma of her daughter at her dad
dying, and like the bus explosion and the dreams and
stuff. Like, but again, like, it
doesn't, like, why was it so extreme?
Like, she cut her hair, she was like dressing, like a boy, and
she was a correcting people when they were like, oh, that little
boy over there. Like she didn't write that.
She was like, whatever. Right.
So I thought that was a big hiccup for me.
Me. You got jhn, like punch her in
the face and I was okay as well. Yeah, right.
Right. As well as her as a child.
And she just said she was like, yeah, I needed that.
Like, what? Right?
This is like ha. Like oh man.
So I think that I don't like how they started having dreams about
each other and then it seems like this supernatural.
Phenomena was like contagious. Yes, yeah, so because she had
never saved anybody up. Until that point with using her
dreams that nobody else had started dreaming about her
because they didn't know that they weren't saved by Susie's
character whatever. Yeah right but it was not until
You know, John sucks, character saves John Haynes character,
that junk hands, like it feels so much gratitude towards him
that he starts dreaming about him, right?
And then, at the end, everybody has dreams.
It's like, you get a dream and you get a dream, you can write,
right? I thought that there was no,
like luck. Sure.
There was logic, but it was not very sad and logic to me.
Hmm. Because everybody started
dreaming about each. Other.
And there was like no surprises, like the stakes didn't seen that
high at one point because everyone was like, having
alternate versions of the same scenario.
So, it was like, okay, right. You have one scenario, I have
the other half and like, let's put it together and like, solve
this thing. So, yeah, it just felt very easy
and convenient writing wise to have everyone to start dreaming
about each other because they've just felt so thankful to the
other person who saved them. Like what and then why did
jungkook's are having dreams so much later in life.
Like she's by that logic. You should have started having
dreams immediately after Jesus. He will linger.
Yes. And Sage saved each other in the
flashback when they were younger.
Yeah. Yeah.
But just so much, like why? Like, it doesn't hmmm.
I also wish, they'd, like explained why Hong Joo was
having dreams. Like, they never explained,
like, why she has premonition exactly.
It was just like what she just born that way.
Like, and didn't seem like her mom ever had them.
So it was like, Either right? So just like, well, what
happened? Yeah.
So I wish they explored that a little bit more 2mn.
Director Choi, was he having dreams?
And he just wasn't interfering until later and he said yes.
That's exactly. Yeah, exactly.
Exactly. Because as we need, like 20
years, he had and his first like dream or whatever was about his
own demise. Hmm, which is like, how do you
deal with? He seemed very calm.
Yeah, as well. Like he was like Like the friend
is saying something like his partner, whatever is in the room
and he's like you're not thinking of like committing
suicide again or in his words he was like you're not thinking
weird thoughts. Again, you and he's like no no
no I'm not thinking that my end is much later.
So he knew that what he had seen was a premonition and was like
totally fine but he had seen his own death and a dream.
Yeah. Yep.
We're not going to talk about that.
Like there's nothing. I'm back here.
Like well, yeah, just like yeah, I knew this was going to happen
and this is The choice I made and it's like okay, like you her
having dreams to like it was just it was so much.
Yeah. It felt like they were just, you
know, they were trying to write themselves out of like loopholes
and like okay well they just had a dream about how they're going
to die in a burning Fire Inferno.
So how do we get them out of that?
Oh, so and sprays dreams, right, dumb it was dumb.
I don't really understand that cuz he can have dreams about
himself and Other people. I mean I guess I don't know how
his work because all of their other three like there's one in
the circle kind of they had dreams about one person to save
them. He can't have drinks while
himself and the rest of them. I'm confused on that but maybe
I'm confused about how Hong Joo also piggy.
Backing up what you're saying. Won't you was having dreams
about randos people like her? Yeah her power was I'm calling
it a power but hers was different than everybody else is
because hers was like I'm just having premonitions about
everyone everybody and then you know Right.
Right. And then datong has dreams only
on her and seems we'll talk dreams about j.chan and then
prosecutor under. Sorry investigator, Lee
director, Troy Troy Troy, oh my gosh.
But yeah, then he has dreams about J-Town, I guess because he
was the one that saved him. So just kind of like, so all
these other people, our only link to the people that saved
them but her, it's just like everybody and they never
explained why, but they never explain why.
And also halfway through the show she stopped having dreams
about Other people, she was like, Ryan, I'm having dreams
about you going to work early. Like I know we're driving like,
right, right when before she was just doing about old random man
with a cigarette, he's gonna blow up or like, you know, her
dad or whoever and she's like, so she's her mom.
Like yeah, I don't know. I wish I'd got more explanation.
You just seemed a little bit annoying to me that she never
tried to, like, I'm sure you tried, but there was didn't seem
like a true effort on her part. To change these people's fate,
until all of these guys start, like, circling around her.
And I'm like, okay, that takes away.
A lot of, like, her agency as a person, as a female character
who, like, started this whole thing, like, she doesn't seem to
want to do anything that she can, she's like a damsel in
distress like the whole time even though she has the greatest
power, right? I don't like that.
We agree. Yeah.
You speaking of the plot hole like what is this?
Asshole. They fill it with more dreams
are just like, yeah, becoming drinks.
You got a dream, you gotta dream a dream over me.
So jeonghan, let's talk about this guy, amazing s.
Oh, my goodness. So precious, he has a freaking
Corgi. This is the first time I've ever
seen a corgi in kdrama. The me too.
At first, I was eatin corrugator.
Oh, why is it so cute? And he has like a lot.
Like superhero and like Batman paraphernalia, like he's always
like bring a Batman cap or a Batman shirt.
Not always but, you know, towards the beginning of the
show, in the end of the show, they have him like wearing like
the superhero stuff, right? Yeah.
And I found that so endearing and cute and he's genuinely just
wants them to be okay and there's no effort on his part to
try and woo her or try and cost issues in their relationship.
He was just like silently, loving her and there was
something so So genuine about that, because a lot of the times
you have a second lead who at some point turns like slightly
like villainous or tries to call.
Yeah, main couple. That's always, yeah.
Becomes obsessive stalker, whatever.
And he wasn't like that at all, he was actually very chill and I
feel like in real life. If someone has a crush on
somebody else and they see no Avenue for like pursue or
whatever, and they're feeling like their feelings are on
what's the word? Not reciprocate, but it yeah,
unrequited. That's it.
Yeah, you're not going to go crazy and start chasing after
them and like trying to break up this couple especially when you
have this shared experience of the dreams together.
So like right now I feel like it was very believable for him to
just be like you know whatever like never confesses to her or
nothing, you know. Right.
She was oblivious it's just makes him a better second male
little get makes him the better man, you know.
Yeah, absolutely. I do you have to talk about
since we're on, we'll talk. Can we talk about episode 8?
I don't know if you have specific notes for this.
Just okay, episode 8? Yes so yeah.
No, yeah. All right.
I was trying to build up looking but Dad for her so many times so
many times injured for her. Yeah I was traumatized it was
too much but yeah, he went Die for her.
He would die for it literally would divert he is.
So here's the thing, he got the date and time for from what's
his face is dream. What's his name?
Oh my God, let me get his name jhv turn.
Yeah he gets all this info from date on the stream and then
deliberately walked in first and tries to stop the bad guy and he
like holds on to his legs and like tells you to run and all
this stuff like he's buying her time and like he did Is on on
purpose. Like, he knew like everything
was gonna happen. Yeah.
Oh my gosh, he's yeah, we got a real Lifeline out of this
because they do also them feel really guilty like, J tan and
Hong Joo. Yeah, who's extremely guilty
about what happened and we have this line that says, like, only
cry for a little while. Only blame yourself a little
while in return, don't forget it for a long time.
Yeah. He he like, of all this.
Second male leads. He's definitely on my list of
favorites. He was such a precious little
sheol and it's funny because like in a lot of like a drama
like lists and compilation videos like that they always
talk about like oh like the shows they gave us like the
worst second lead syndrome and they always mentioned this show
and after finishing the show, I was just like I understand why I
like people love him like second male lead but I didn't
necessarily, I don't know. Like I I thought we were going
to get like a lot more of Because I was like, the way that
people talked about the second second lead syndrome.
I thought that he was like, coming on strong.
Like, yeah, love. Like I thought it was gonna be,
you know, laying it on really thick, but he was so chill.
So I was just like, oh, like he's super chill, but it's just
like his character, his heart that it just like, it literally
just makes you love him. So much.
His character was just the sweetest guy like it.
You're just rooting for him the entire time and he never
overstepped his boundaries. You never try to cross the line.
He never try to like, take her to the side and be like, hey,
I'm too, I just I need to tell you that I like you like you
know, he never did that. Like yeah you know, like and I
don't know like it was even like I guess towards the middle of
the show, I was thinking like, okay.
Like I mean clearly has a crush on her whatever but then I start
kind of daddy in the middle. Like, does he really have a
crush on her? Because I don't know, he's so
chill about it. But then towards the end I feel
like they kind of crammed all this stuff in like with like the
pimp taking the picture of the Shadow and everything so I was
like okay like I wish there was like a little bit more of this
like sprinkled throughout because it was just it was
really cute but yeah exactly and they've second lead of mine.
I think that and they kind of went back circled back and show
the actual scene of him taking a photo of your shadows, now that
they could have just done that throughout.
Like they should have had that Stinger of him, like, doing
something like, you know, doing something for her.
Where were, you know, secretly, you know, doing x y z, because
it would have helped that s like lead story line a little bit
better, right? Kind of bridge some gaps, but we
only got that one. Still Care of him like taking
the shadow photo of them, which was like, really cute.
Like it was so cute, very adorable.
Yeah. Like he's just like, oh my God,
we actually look really cute. As Shadows looks like she's
leaning on my shoulder and then like secret and she can't
recognize her own freaking Shadowland, right?
He's like who's that stupid? Like sometimes you're like oh
yeah, she's smart. No, she's stupid.
Let's talk about how stupid she is.
Okay. So look, my goodness.
Final episodes. She I don't know why she insists
on meeting attorney you bomb by herself multiple times.
Yeah, when she knows from the very first episode that he's
dirt, he's trash. He frames her for murder in an
alternate, like, basically alternate reality.
Because that ended up not happening.
And she loses everything because of him and still, she decides.
Oh, I'm going to like meet up with him and like, talk with him
without any sort of like precautions.
And again, it comes back to bite her in the final episode.
He drugs, her gets with the serial, killer tries to kill her
like he's like expecting her not to make it so that he could
spend the story. However he wants well like what
the hell? Like what the hell was she
thinking? Yeah, it was just like what you
put yourself in a situation. Yes.
Why would you put yourself in that situation?
You knew you knew. She's so trusting.
Uh it's like why is she the damsel?
She knows better. For the story.
Anything I have to save the day reporter reporter Gene.
She's like, I gotta go scoop it out for myself.
What can we talk about? And I won't go to because I know
we'll get it to him, but I have some thoughts on Sango poke that
performance. He killed it, he killed it.
One of the best villains I've seen in kdrama yali.
I killed it. Yeah.
And they gave him a little bit of like remorse, because every
time he would have some sort of trial, go his way or not go, his
way, he would feel guilty and go to the bathroom and like scrub,
his hands trying to wash himself of like, you know, the Dirty
Deeds that he's been doing as an attorney.
And like I don't know if you've, you know, interacted with
attorneys and the in defense attorneys at all.
But my mom. For a law firm, and she's worked
for law firms, like her whole career.
And so I've been in and out of, like, Law Firm offices, and I
just think that they kind of portrayed, this kind of weird
because defense attorneys know that a lot of the clients that
they have are guilty but you know, they deserve due process.
That's their whole thing in America and in the you know,
system that I've witnessed with a defense attorneys, they're
like yeah sometimes they'll be guilty but But they deserve due
process as well. And that's like the leg that
they stand on, is they they look to that tenant of our, you know,
law system. Yeah.
To get through kind of like a morally, morally, gray areas.
I guess, is how to put it and he wasn't coming at it from that
angle. At all like he wasn't like,
well, even though they're guilty like they deserve.
Have their day in court or whatever?
No, he was like, yeah, like I'll get you out of it.
Like right? He was check straight
villainous. Yeah, he was evil, he was
terrible. Yeah, he played the heck out of
that role like I was like wow. Like did you just want to slap
him the whole time? Right?
Because if you really can't stand him the entire time and
yes but like just to kind of piggyback off of what you were
saying it. Just like it did.
Show that like okay like you do have a conscience because he
knows bad. Like wrong getting people off
for like, and basically, literally going to, every time
he liked, would refute the prosecution, with literally
something he made up like a reach, like such a far reach.
I'll just roll my eyes, if you like.
Are you kidding me, right? Are you serious?
He's like, oh, yeah. Like the guy didn't die because
of falling. He died because of the autopsy,
just like. Are you kidding me?
Like what's wrong with you? Think about it?
It's like least. Like think about it like a
horrible. Horrible person.
Yeah, he played the heck of a lot role as the first time I've
seen sign job in a shell. So I was just like, wow, yeah,
he's let me see. He's been an eve.
He's been in shooting stars. As a cameo, he was in doctors as
a cameo. Which doctors is I think?
Yeah, the dirt both of the directors worked on doctors.
So he had already, you know, it worked with the directors
before. He's also in the innocent man
with some doing key. Why?
I think, is that from, Jimmy key?
No, it's a show from 2012, so I go.
Okay, really lay back. No, it's a throwback.
And I really like that show. I don't remember, who the hell
is character was, but he was in there, like you stay.
I don't remember there and that's a good show, so, I
recommend it, but yeah, I also was very taken aback.
Again, I don't really like to watch the police procedurals and
the prosecutor Seed rolls that they have in kdrama.
I don't really like that. Drama, the legal drama Leo job,
but I just hate the fact that they're going through some of
these trials and they don't have a jury.
They just have a panel of three judges and like, that really
bothers me because they're not being tried by like a jury of
their peers but not being judged by a jury of their peers.
Like it is in the US but in other shows, they do sometimes
have a jury. They do is like it, just like,
it depends and I don't know what the Why it is or isn't that way
sometimes but right, it's like a little bit frustrating like
there. Yeah there are laws and stuff.
Like if it's real then it's like what I did leave.
I did like the court Sister Act Dance theme that one was really
heavy, just you remember that? Yes, I do.
That was amazing because yes, she goes, I love him and you do.
I love drunken, hence, character in uniform, I'm like a man in
uniform. He's like fuck.
Yeah uniformed you have a choir robe over that scene was
hilarious. I feel like 10 times.
Yeah it's good. That's a good one but yeah, I do
agree because I'm watching um extraordinary attorney Wu and
she had like a jury at least four episode one and I was like
oh they do have juries and like quartz.
So that's a good point. Yes, that's why I don't know
why. Yes and why know sometimes but
yeah, right. Speaking of like, going back to
this romance that I like, I don't really buy into, they try
to up the stakes in the middle of the show around episode 11
when the mom suddenly, like withdraws, support from j.chan,
like, what those so confusing and exhausting.
Yeah, I would even like rewind and be like, did I miss
something? Was going on with her?
Like, yeah, she cuts him off. Basically from recuperating at
the house for more than two days.
He got freakin Shot in the street and she's like, you're
not saying more than two days, right?
Like it's like for what? And then she basically and she
steals the ring that he gave her, that he gets like aah.
And she's like, oh, I'm thinking back to Susie's character
because she was a wailing mess essentially when he got injured
and in, she was crying because she made the reality worst.
Like she changed her dream to the so that it was worse.
Ass off, then hurt him getting stabbed and all this stuff, and
it reminded her of her reaction to her dad dying.
Yeah, the bus crash or the bus explosion.
And she says, like, sorry, I can't watch my daughter, like
breakdown, like that, again, like, she's losing like her mind
basically. Yeah, and I was like your
daughter sees. So let's take, let's take a
break it out. So, your daughter sees the
future in dreams and she suddenly can't have any intense
feelings about her messing around with the future or her
boyfriend getting shot. Like, come on, like, give her a
break, you know, seriously. Like it didn't You, come on
lady. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense
why she was doing it. She did it for like multiple
like episodes and she even does the same thing to woo.
Tak it 1.2 and I was like, why are you doing this?
Like, she kept doing it people. And I'm like, you're being
petty. Sounds like Petty.
And then she even said like I'm sorry I was being petty.
Like she stole a ring like she's thieving and stuff in her own
house like no. No.
It was funny that she was keeping score between the boys,
I love. Yeah.
So she was like those funny you like pickles?
Cool. And then she doesn't bring down.
I think he did. He did when he was like salty
about it. He was like what is more points
than me outing? Yeah, jeonghan will always be
the winner. Number one, number one.
Yeah, yes. Speaking of some, of the cases
that they went through. So I found the case where they
had to choose between the autopsy, doing the autopsy, or
doing the organ transplant. That one was really emotional
and intense and in all the good, good ways.
Right? Because, yeah, I feel like they
put that other prosecutor on the under extreme pressure.
And she ends up showing extreme empathy toward The parent who
lost their son, the parent, who like, had their son murdered,
she was like, you know, I think that they should do the autopsy
because if I look at it from the Tas parents perspective, like I
would want my child, like I want Justice For My Child, right?
And it was, I think that kind of thing should have been explored
a little more like maybe some of these stories should have had
that look like angle where someone else has to make the
decision. Yes, or no?
Oh, to do x y z because it seemed like that was more
meaningful than jet on making the call.
You know what I'm saying? Right, right.
Because her son was like supposed to get the transplant.
He did get the transplant l so it ends up being like not an
issue because they do both at the same time to translate and
the autopsy and I was like okay that was a little bit of a
letdown because like you want it to be one or the other, but they
end up doing both. So I'm like, okay There was a
lot of that in the show, where it's like, oh we have this like
dilemma and then like, they choose a very obvious like
alternative that's like, yeah, it ends.
Get everyone lat. Yeah.
Like everyone gets a win-win throughout the show.
Yes. The beginning of her love story
though, the other prosecutor and the other prosecutors love
story. They had the better.
They had the way better love story.
Yeah, they're asleep. They had the best love story.
Yeah, these are dating in the office and stuff, and yeah.
You know he's very supportive of her when she's going through all
that stuff with her child right in a medical emergency you know,
like this is serious stuff and he's very he's there for her and
he keeps her secret and he's advocating for her so it's way
better of a story for them to get together then for our main
couple to catch feelings and get together way.
So what you know about the the prosecutors I got together on
the side As I seen on there in the elevator was really funny
because like, she was, like, really sad about like me was
going on with her son. And he was just like, yeah, like
don't worry, like, I won't say a word, like, I'm really
tight-lipped and he's like, if I wasn't tight lift, I wouldn't
tell you that prosecutors should is a Buddhist and prosecutors
so-and-so gets fillers. I started spilling some cheese
there and she got distracted and it was like, very excited about
this, like Jesus in Spanish, it's cheese me.
So that's why these cheese. Yeah, no, he's are spilling the
tea and their, the elevator has, what should, like, what mind off
of it? Yeah.
So, Kurt her, you know, she was so fixated on the transplant and
her son and stuff, and he was like, um, did you know that?
So it's okay. It's pillars that she was like,
I beg your pardon, it was really funny.
Yeah, it was okay. I want to go back to ditch on
because I'm sorry, John Haynes character because his big
secret. Looking around to make sure no
one's looking no, one hears this.
It's a big secret. He's colorblind.
Whoa, the blown up blown up y'all.
That was the most. I was waiting for something
else. I was like something else is
coming. Hey.
See you like? I cannot wait to hear you guys
thoughts on that because I was like is this is the big secret
that his friend was going to reveal to the world that he was
colorblind? His friend was being tried for
murder and he was like I'm gonna tell your secret And I was like,
all right bet let's hope this Secrets, juicy sweetie.
He just can't see red and green, okay?
Like it was not that serious. He was colorblind and that
meant. He couldn't be a police officer
which I get that. He's gonna lose his career over
it. But at the same time like in the
context of this whole show, like we have murderers, you have to
fucking serial killer in the final episode.
Like what he's colorblind. And that's the thing, that
that's the thing, the thing that I don't worry, but this whole
case wide open. What else?
Like what is? No, this was so weak.
It was so weak. And my sister was like, because
she saw the last episode she was like.
So I guess it follows that principle, right?
That you always talk about and I was like, yes, chekhov's gun.
If you introduce a concept or, you know, in this case,
chekhov's gun, if you have a gun in the scene, by the end of the
scene, you have to shoot the gun.
So, in this case, they had the color blindness.
And at the end, the colorblind is comes into.
Play, right. He again like I said, it ends up
being a win-win. He reveals that he's Colorblind
on the stand. He does not lie in perjure
himself and loses his entire career and still the case is
one. It's not a big deal in the grand
scheme of things and I was like, okay there it is.
This writing that's like oh it's got to be one of the other A or
B and then they're like how about H like they're just like
let's choose something else like and it's not a big deal.
Yeah, I'm so sorry wild and also frustrated with that, yeah, it
was weird. Also like I get that ended up
kind of coming back around with like being able to identify the
umbrella and everything, but that could have been entirely
left out. I don't under like, that was
not. I was like, did he kill someone
when he was like a teenager like, what did he do?
Yes, I wanted it to be sole. Shh sighs.
I wanted gossip I want Hey, I got water.
Looks like he's colorblind like and I'm like, you're like,
you're literally being accused of murdering somebody, you look,
well, I'm going to tell everyone that you're color blind.
Like what does it? How does that make any sense?
Dramatic music. Like, I'm gonna tell everyone
your secret and then to find out that secret is being colorblind.
I was like, that is actually ridiculous.
It was like, you know, you could have chosen 20 other things, I
would've been better than color blindness because it was, it was
like, equivalent of like, oh man, like I'm gonna Take you
down with me when you tell people that you had braces like
what. But above all things, I had
ordered Orthodontics. Like no, it was that like, out
of left field. Oh man, oh man, oh man, like
literally, that's what you thought like.
Pop carry on, get it together. Girl, like, you had a better.
She had a better time to start up better time and dream.
Higher than she did with this. This side plot of him being
another plan. Oh my God, all of the twists in
the show, they didn't land well with me.
So this was one of them. I was like, yeah, like the big
reveals kind of like that was kind of the trend like for me as
well, just kind of like it ends up falling flat and you're just
like, that's it like, Literally literally just it's so
disappointing. Like Anyway, investigator toy
ends up being the cop that they saved from drowning back in the
day. Of course, of course, like, it
has like something had to be somebody that we had seen
before, right? It's true.
Yeah. How did you not recognize him
though? I don't, I just think get that.
But they found no, no, he was committing suicide and then it's
been, I don't know what, 15, 20 years you're telling me, they
can't ID this guy. Yeah, I don't know.
I feel so blowing that when it was revealed, like he saved them
from that burning trailer tobacco thing and I was just
like, why it could have been it. Somebody else like not him.
Come on Mom. But yeah, no, you know what for
me, like actually really wasn't. I wasn't mad at that.
Like I was just like, okay, like, that's a cool, like, I
actually didn't have a problem with it being him.
I had a problem with what happened later.
We'll talk about it, that way. What happened?
Okay, let's go for it. Go for it yourself, right?
Okay, yeah, so I think I'm sorry, I'm not gonna lie, I like
a massive I roll. When he got hit by the car, bro,
massive I roll. It was very reminiscent of why
her. So that's why I was like, oh,
this makes a lot of sense with like this, the directors and the
writers. Yeah.
Because something similar happened and why her, you know,
you know, oxygen, that's kind of like, yeah.
Just kind of like why like this Is so like it I just seemed like
kind of like the easy way out very cliche.
Very just yeah, I was so disappointed, that that's the
choice that they took and I was like, of course he got hit by a
car, so they label. So they were able to save tons
of people throughout the show and each other, like, countless
times. We, they can't save investigator
Troy. They can't save this man.
That's cause no one was dreaming about him.
Evidently you can only say something, Jun bok, choy.
He died. Oh yeah.
I'm so sad because the end it was you bum as well.
Like attorney you bomb again like goes on a rampage and runs
him down in the street. I don't know why he did that so
I guess maybe he was already like I'm going to jail anyway.
I don't know. Why would he good to you?
Exactly. He was so like, um, What's the
word he was so intelligent about, like, what to do and what
not to do, throughout the entire day.
He was not trying to incriminate himself, even during the last
bit of his trial. He was like, you know, I'm
innocent. I didn't do this.
Whatever. Maintaining her innocence and it
wasn't until like his CEO or his boss who again we never seen
before was like, right, you know, fool on is going to be
here. Next time, I'm not going to do.
I mean, I could be your attorney.
Yep. And he found that so offensive.
Been like maddening, I guess that he just like went off the
rails. When investigator Troy was like
don't run just admit your guilt and like deal with it.
Like you can probably get a lighter sentence if you just
admit to what you did. And again that was apparently,
so awful, that he runs like runs him over with his vehicle.
In my mind, it was just the writer trying to come full
circle. Because in the first episode you
have that dream where he runs Junkin over in the street.
The hit-and-run. Run.
So they were like, okay well he has to actually fulfill the
destiny somehow. So then they he runs over
investigator Choice instead. Mmm, wow.
Just you a genius girl. I really like right there.
Yeah, that that might have been their logic as to why they did
that, but it was a horrible Choice, horrible.
Like that wasn't terrible. The same thing happens to
what's-her-face. Susie.
So Seuss, character ends up in a coma in the first episode.
Yeah. By the last episode.
She's Through a coma as well. Which seemingly wasn't even that
bad of a deal for her health wise?
Because she comes out of the coma remembers, everything about
the attempted murder, the color of the umbrellas.
She's walking around, doesn't need assistance.
No brain damage to speak of. She's fine.
Wow, Jess, you're in both in just in shock it out.
Wow. Oh, no, I didn't mean to blow
anybody's mind but that I didn't like that.
They still stuck with the original like Destiny, like the
original fear that they had. Yeah, like he has to kill
somebody by running them over with the car and like she has to
pee in a comatose and all the stuff, like just doesn't make
sense, just didn't? You didn't need it.
You didn't need it, it wasn't necessary.
Or I guess ultimately it also sells the idea that like, they
opt, he could not fix. The fake, you know, that's
right, right? Right.
It kind of, yeah, it kinda makes you think about like, you know,
how, like time travel movies or like, even like Avengers and
stuff and they're just like, well, if we change stuff here,
it's Gonna Change stuff as gonna mess everything up.
So I was wondering if like all the any of the things that they
change would come back around. So girl you crack the code, you
figured it out and I didn't. Mm, yeah, I didn't even think
about that. But we're y'all that was a good
point. What you made about like why my
goodness I'm gonna call him sign you off, I don't remember you
bomb. I'm sorry you beneath me.
Yes he hit investigator toy like cut off.
Just kind of like y. Like it's like logically
speaking like why cause you're already in trouble?
Like you're already going down. So I was just like well you're
going down with me or was it just like him just trying to
like just seek revenge or be like you blow up my spot?
Like you expose everything, like I don't it just he didn't make
sense. Logically, he didn't even seem
that upset like after he parted ways with joy, is like and
likewise talking about this car and you're just like, okay,
conversation over we're done like he's going to jail,
whatever know he comes flying through with the car like like
and then he doesn't even like actually commit the hit-and-run.
Like he doesn't run. He sticks around.
They catch you 26 there. Yeah, I did it.
Years ago. Bird bar.
Oh, goodness gracious. Here's another qualms that I
have in the last couple of episodes.
They introduced the serial killer, I knew immediately that
it was a female serial. Killer, there was no doubt in my
mind that it was a female. I don't know why, but I was
like, it's a lady. They're looking for the wrong
person, whatever. They have the wrong ammo and
sure enough. It's a lady.
And the reason why she started being a serial killer and
killing off the people in the hospital Ward was because she
was basically jealous of them for getting better while she was
you know getting through her illness and wasn't getting
better and all this stuff. What was her illness?
This is this really really irked me.
Oh my goodness, her illness was Crohn's disease.
It's funny but yeah, it was definitely a facepalm moment.
I was like Crohn's disease that you can live with that.
I know somebody with crohn's disease.
Of course, they avoid certain things.
Of course, is painful for them sometimes and they get that are
here. They have like lapses but as far
as like, should there be open lesions all over their body and
face like why? I don't know what the hell was
that. What was that?
They like got the symptoms of Crohn's Disease, all wrong.
Looks like you can look this up. Like it should be, she was like,
oh they took a part of my intestines and I was like, okay
I can understand that. Like that's yeah falls in love
with crohn's disease, but then she was like right couldn't move
like she was laid up in bed with all of these like facial lesions
and see ya body like why are we having open sores if you had any
sores, that would be on the inside of her mouth?
Like it was like, right? I was like the basic like due
diligence to look at this disease.
Like right fit figure out what would make sense.
I wish it was like something more dressy like cancer, you
know, in that respect, like maybe there were like a can't be
cancer. Everyone does cancer in kdrama.
Let's do something else. Right, they chose Crohn's
disease disease. Yeah, it was bizarre like it was
that was another anti climactic moment.
It was just kind of like to just to find out that it's this lady.
That was bitter that she was sick and other people in her
room or getting better. And No one like aspect her.
When all right, the other people in the ward died.
Yeah, it was, it was just weird. It was just like, okay, like,
that's why she did it. But then like I also don't
really like how they molded the story, like a rounded because,
like, the random guy that like stole cell phones and like him.
Having a daughter, like, that's passed away ten years before I
was like, this was not necessary, but quite and that
being the lead up to like the lady, it was just kind of like
what is this? Keep going.
There's more I do this work.
Oh my God, guys. Son and stuff that I didn't like
when I was switching umbrellas with people, then all of the
stuff with the sun and then the guy who like was falsely accused
and stuff to just build upon everything.
You said Nez just yeah. All that whole thing mess lazy,
it's lazy. Yeah, you know, Then
investigator Choi said that you bum had the same birthday as his
brother. His younger brother that like
died. Every single thing is like, it's
just like, what the heck? Not honestly, nothing was making
sense. What's the end?
I'll be like it was. I thought I was a coincidence,
has over and over and over again.
And okay, dramas are built on coincidences.
I get it. But this was too much, it was
and there's a way to do it. Well, like, we've all seen.
Dramas that like kind of have this kind of similar thing going
on, like there might be a mystery, there might be a crime,
whatever childhood connection, whatever, but like it can be
done well and it could be done in an intentional way and not
just a whole bunch of Randomness and just like lazy coincidences,
like we've seen it done well to. So to kind of see how they kind
of constructed the story I was just kind of like, yeah, this is
not, this is not up to par. I would say if you want to watch
something that's like a fantasy story that has some sort of like
time element or, you know, trying to fix events that are
not so good from happening. And that sort of thing I would
go with either signal, which is a police procedural.
Okay. Excellent drama.
Definitely, recommend of my list or if you want yes, watch it or
if you want to go more romance, you could go with tomorrow with
you which starter my list to yes.
I know what this guy's name again, I love him.
The gospel and you Joan, you doin it.
I love him so much. I loved him from you to have and
I was like, I love you. He's really such a good actor,
stunning, such a great actor, highly recommend.
No one talks about tomorrow with you, it's so good.
So, those two I would definitely recommend for if you if this
because we've really shot on this show, I don't want to wrap
up this. They love it.
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. When were some good things about
the strut? I know we're coming to and then
we're kind of wrapping it up. But like what were some good
things about this drama that you liked?
Well, I kind of know I'm like, you know, on other side, but I
like the romance. Like one of my favorite scenes
was like after the whole stabbing thing and they both met
like the little Pond Park area, and she was crying.
And then he gave her his tie, his shoes and raping her time
with that's what their heart tears.
I was like you're really cute maybe in another drama with a
different like writing team and stuff them to try it again.
I felt like They were really cute.
They were together it just for me.
I thought they were cute. Don't know, I know you guys.
I agree. I think they had a lot of cute
moments. Like, really cute moments, like
the tide, like the crying Look Down, Show tie, like the kiss in
the rain and just like their, which didn't actually have their
right? I'm not through the cherry
blossom kiss, which never happened it, right?
That didn't happen yet. But the rain kiss, happy?
Yes, yes. So let's leave They definitely
had some cute moments but hopefully we can talk about our
chemistry like a little bit after because I do have some
issues. Okay?
But no, I think they did have some really sweet moments.
Yes, my name is sweet moment then we can talk about their
chemistry. So I liked that he watches over
her on her way to work and he's like, oh, I'll take you to work
and all this stuff and he leads her across the street, when
she's really scared to return to her job.
Because, of course, she saw her demise, and she was wearing the
SBS, like, uniform or whatever and she was, like, I can't go
back. Work.
Otherwise, I will eventually die on the job.
And, you know, she was very scared and he leads her across
the street. And sincerely says that like,
yeah, I'll take you to work everyday.
If that makes you feel at peace. And yeah, you can whine to me
about protecting you if you want.
And you know, he lets her hug him and it's just he's catching
more feelings toward that point and it felt like that moment was
very important for them. So I like that a lot.
Okay. Yeah.
Oh, one more thing.
I just have like one more sweet woman.
I love whenever they did, like, kind of like the juxtaposition
between when they were kids and when there were adults, so, like
the scene, when they were at the funeral hall, for inspector toys
funeral, they kept cutting and yeah, that was bat.
Bat, bat got me a little choked up up from that seed.
And also like the scene that they had went.
After J tan got shot and Um like he was she was like at his
bedside and they kind of like did the same thing like kind of
like a flashback when they're yeah kind of like the chocolate
chip, the child version of them and it was that was really,
really sweet. Yeah but the funeral part I did
a little choked up a little bit then but yeah it was.
That was sweet. Oh sorry one more thing.
This other sweet moment. This is Han.
Woo Tak and his sunbae that I went when they think about it at
the end. Yeah.
And what's cried in that scene. Yeah.
Like that that I was literally, like, going like this, like I
was like, oh wow, I agree. That was very emotional because
he's saying goodbye to his longtime partner in the partner.
Like kept his secret, he knew he was colorblind the whole time
was like helping him out and learn Like he just says a very
poetic things like he's because he refers to the emblem of the
public, the police badge or whatever and he's like this felt
so heavy on me but I like did it, you know?
Anyway and I you know, wanted to be a good, you know, police
officer whatever. And it's just like, that's all
right. I think I cry.
Yeah. Like fryer.
He's a good like you're like, oh my God, he's about to fall over.
Like he's just so overcome and I believe him like every time he's
like crying or wailing or whatever and yeah, that goodbye
with him. And his part I was like Bromance
is alive. Like this is bleep.
What a fool, like it's more emotional than like anything.
Else that happened. And yeah, that was the most fun
part of the entire show for me. I was like, Yep.
This is this. It I was like, legit, like not.
Okay, yeah, mmm, yeah, it's good, it's good.
Okay, Chemistry Between the leads rapid fire.
Let's go. What do you guys think?
I do. Now, I'm thinking back, I do
agree with you guys because I was thinking, like, in the
beginning, she was really clingy.
And then she stopped being clingy in the next episode.
He was in love with her, and I was like, yeah, you but you were
mad at her for being clingy, then you became clingy.
How did you fall in love with her?
Was it the dreams? Was it?
Because her mother told you don't go with her.
Like what happened? Yeah.
Yes like there was yes, exactly. I don't know what to say but it
was like, just, yes. Like there was no, where did it
come from? Like, why was he suddenly not
annoyed with her being clingy? And like, assuming that they
were in a relationship in that? He liked her and all the stuff
like, no. She was dilute for like five
years. Those.
And then he was like, boom. I like you.
Hmm. For what?
Why? That's my puppy whistles when I
can't figure out. Why the leads like each other.
It's like, why do you like them? Why do you like she can't?
Yeah, no reason. Uh, no reason at all.
Yeah, no. Yeah for me it was something I
was thinking about throughout the whole show because I was
like something's off and I don't know what what it is but
something's off about this. I just and like I said before
like they did have a lot of Sweet Moments like I like the
way that like the Sweet Moments were written and everything but
like It just wasn't it wasn't consistent from he was like very
up and down like I wasn't getting that that that Sizzle
like I wasn't getting like the fuzzies like yeah and I really
wanted to because I felt like on paper like they look great
together like right. You know, they're both very
talented, of course but it just wasn't I wasn't feeling it and
honestly like I feel like hyung Jun will tack on more chemistry
like yeah. I felt the chemistry between
them. Even if feels like even those
just friend the chemistry or whatever, he liked her, whatever
unrequited but I felt like more chemistry.
Between them. But I was not feeling the
Romantic chemistry, like, between Hong Joo and a town,
like, at all, like, sometimes I feel like, but for the most part
it was like, not really and like they have a great chemistry as
like, friends that the, when the three of them were together, it
was like the cutest thing like the two of them, I was just like
something about this just feels forced.
It feels unnatural like, I don't know, like there was something
about it that was just off. Yeah.
And that sucks because their kisses were so good, right?
Like it was a good quality kissing I guess.
They were and still like the chemistry was in there and I
would say that. Why are you guys laughing a
really good quality kissing? I've never heard that before.
I've never so everyone makes fun of like the fisheye kisses or
like dogs kisses tile of Kiss. Ya almost felt like they didn't
have none of that. So I was like, right.
Okay. High-quality kisses.
So right, here's my thing, is that we've I'm gonna trade mark
that, I You should? You said, they'll make it your
thing you should handle, do it? Yeah, but we've seen Duncan
Duncan, hey, Jung. Suk with other female leaves and
he's had great chemistry with them.
Like, let's look at w for instance, I don't know if you
guys have seen that one but like he has great chemistry with Han
hyo-joo and that one, right? And it's kind of their
chemistry, the drives the whole show because it goes off the
rails plot-wise, but then two together like invested in them.
Or he's like yes yes goes nuts. I have outside conversation
about that. I have a question for y'all
though. And maybe y'all can explain to
me. Do you think that maybe he
started to like her because plot twist at the end.
He was suspecting who she was from the ball cap so he was
drawn to her, maybe from that, I don't know.
Maybe maybe start to put things together.
Yeah, he had. Inkling.
For sure. They made it seem like he was
like, Oh, I thought it was a boy when I was a kid.
Yeah, it's he likes Idols Usher at the bus, stop again.
Like it does, it does it quite like, there's something missing
here like, connective tissue that were missing between like,
hey, I thought that kid that saved my life as a kid was a boy
like we're stuck. The rest of your thought like
okay I'm just gonna like go to work with her on the bus like
yep. Yeah.
Oh my God, you know? You know, II the way I took it
was I thought he just, I thought she just wore him down.
Yeah, you could say that as well.
Like that's the only kind of plausible explanation that I
have come to, as well as that she kind of just like between
the dreams being unrelenting and him like constantly being like
bombarded with them, right? And having to save her multiple
times in her just being, I guess endearing like this Behavior.
I guess it should be seen as an earring, he was Okay, I kind of
like you right? Like, okay, we'll see how this
goes like here. She's showing up to your coffee
shop and getting you coffee and waiting for you and like just
showing up wherever you are, you're like, okay, whatever.
I was, let's see where this takes us.
The one thing that I didn't, this last thing I'll say
actually is he kind of when he gets shot he has this like, the
extended voiceover. He's like I wanted to say this
thing to you, but I wanted to tell you.
And finally, he says that he wanted to tell her That he was
sorry because when she confronted him on like his
commute to work one time, he said he didn't believe her, even
though he had already experienced these dreams and
knew that she was telling the truth.
You still told her, he didn't believe her and that she should
feel guilty as a matter of fact, because if she's been having
these dreams that come true, and people are in danger than she
should feel responsible for trying to change her fate and
trying to say these people. So their blood is on her hands
as what he was saying. Earlier in the show and then
during the voiceover he's like you know dying he's flatlining.
All the stuff he's like, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say that
I should have just taken the umbrella that you handed me and
said, okay, like I believe you and I will except, you know this
umbrella because it's going to rain or whatever.
Even though the forecast says, no rain.
Yeah, I liked that. And he doesn't quite say this to
her. I mean.
Yes later on when he like comes to and he's like, there's that
joke of Like him and the chief prosecutor.
Like he's like got his hands all over him and he's like, up,
sorry, I knew that you're here. It's like as a joke later and
she does show up and they kind of just, he doesn't say
necessarily all this stuff that happened in the voiceover.
He just says, you know, I I recognized you, why don't you
say that, you recognize me all this stuff like, and go straight
to their past with the suicidal Cobb and their dads died on the
same day and all this stuff their shared trauma.
But he doesn't reference like this very important.
Like I feel like that's very important for him to say like,
yeah, I'm sorry I believe you and like I shouldn't have kind
of made you become a superhero, like try and stop these things
from happening because you know, it's not your response, not your
responsibility necessarily to try and like block all these bad
things from happening but then they also like he negates that
by like become the. Yes he tries to stop all these
that things from happening. Yep.
So yeah, they still like fall into the trappings of like,
trying to like out outmaneuver the dreams and the future.
Right. Right.
Yeah, I agree. I wish that was Revisited
because I was like, one of my favorite scenes until you find
out that it was his chief prosecutor.
Here's caressing. But I was like, how are we going
to like, go back to that? Are you gonna talk to her about
that? Yeah, like okay, no.
All right. It's kind of messy, it's kind of
messy. Because she's like, I don't.
What do you mean? And she doesn't wear the You
know, the stuff and she's like, they don't go back to.
Yes, she was there and yes, it was real.
He wasn't like hallucinating after the surgery, right?
See you tomorrow. So I still thought he was
hallucinating, until we just talked it out.
I was just like, oh, but like, but honestly like that's valid
though because like it got like that's one of my clams too.
Because of the things got confusing.
A lot of the time and you're just kind of like Even know
what's real? It's like Inception.
Like he's like, I don't know what's happening, I don't know
what's a dream. I don't know what happened and
like, it's it kind of, kind of, kind of became a lot to kind of
keep track of. So, like I could understand that
because that scene was kind of confusing.
Yeah. Okay.
I have come to the end of my notes because I feel like if we
will just continue bashing the show.
Oh, no, man, it's just so much. Oh, last thing I'll say, Let me
see if I can find it. The chicken guy who purposely
killed his brother for the insurance money that was Kang
Chi Yong from attorney Wu, who is now like a big heart throb
now. Yeah.
Oh that is him because I've been seeing his pictures around.
Oh okay. Okay, that makes sense.
Yeah. And I was like oh he's like a
villain. He's one of these killers that
he's Prosecuting and he like killed like The cats or
something in the neighborhood. Like, you was like, running
weird. It was weird.
Did you like him as like playing a?
Not a villain but I guess. Yeah.
Like a villain character versus. He's usually like a sidekick
character. Someone who's not necessarily
good, not necessarily bad. Like I didn't attorney Wu.
He's very sympathetic and people seem to really rally behind him.
But in this one, he sleeps like a baby serial killer who's
killing off siblings for insurance money.
So two different people to me. Because and attorney Wu I was
like he's so charismatic like habla and then yeah.
And here, I don't even. Yeah.
It was it could be two different people to me honestly.
Yeah. I yeah, I think he was
unrecognizable a little bit. Yeah.
Oh man. Okay, I got a lot of off my
chest. I feel like this is a venting
session. I hope you guys felt the same
way and that you don't regret watching this show.
I don't regret watching. It was just not this, excellent
drama. That I was led to believe, you
know, right. Totally agree.
I would agree with that statement.
For sure, it's not terrible. I don't regret watching it.
I wouldn't like tell people not to watch it.
I just I was expect--. I had high expectations like
This is like one of those like staple dramas at people, you
know, like they say, it's their favorite and like it has
generated so high. Yeah, like it's gonna be
amazing. So then I watch it.
I was like, okay. Hi little.
Sorry for real. Look, at the whole time, I'm
watching the show, like, I like follow the story.
I'll be like, okay, like how would a person do you want?
Like, how you feel with the show that she's this like, um, it's
okay. And I'll just like, what's wrong
with they're like, What's the problem?
Is that this point? I still like liked it like me,
like five episodes in In and she's just a slight, I don't
know. Like, you'll just you'll look,
let's talk after you're done with it.
And then once I finish the show, I was like, I understand why she
was just very well. I'm about it.
Yeah, it's kind of all over the place but I kind of like this.
Really how I felt about why her as well because like there's
really good aspects to it. But there's also this like also
what is going on here? So it's just like I liked it but
I didn't like it and it's a great conflicted feeling that I
had with that show as well. So yeah.
Okay yeah. All right.
I do want to look more into those threads of wife.
People liked it because I didn't really look into that.
So, I'm going to do that because I know y'all y'all messin with
us and let her know. Yes.
Message us at ATC double pod, on all the social.
Psych tell us what exactly were missing from the show this
please, we watched all 16 hours. And I'm like, where's the wire
people like up? I miss something here.
Cause I'm not seeing it right? I feel so bad.
The first couple of episodes. Excellent, really good episode.
Yeah, I can't in good conscience, like recommend the
show. Anyway, that's a Nori.
Thank you guys so much for coming.
This is like a family reunions. I love talking to you guys.
Yes, thank you for coming on. Making the time watching the
show. I know it's real.
Foucault to watch those outside of like your own, like personal
watch list or your own podcast list.
Like you're just like, oh, one more thing.
So I really appreciate you guys taking the time to do this and
to talk, we've gone on for almost two hours.
I feel so bad, but thank you. Where can we find you guys
online? Yes, I do.
I do want to Echo and say thank you just for having us.
Hopefully we'll do this again. 3 Peak.
Okay. But you can find us on Instagram
and YouTube at Soul Sistas pot and yeah we Love pink here.
Thanks so much girl. Yeah, we're so honored like this
was so much fun. So thank you so much for asking
us to be on. This was so much fun.
I'm sorry that we had a show that we ended up bashing but
that's just how the way I feel bad.
How the cookie crumbles? Anyway, that's been our show.
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It's you baby. I'm falling deeper in everything
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