1 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,440 I'm Jessica and this is K BA K Rambles where a couple of 2 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,280 friends review Korean dramas and we're back with another K drama 3 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,200 and I'm back with my good friend Caitlin from No Sleep for Dramas 4 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,160 podcast. And how are you, Caitlin? 5 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,720 Hello. I'm good, I'm good. 6 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,400 How are you Good We've. Been chatting for about 40 7 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:42,120 minutes before we started recording so we we are all 8 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,080 warmed up here. Caitlin, you haven't been on 9 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:49,400 Like Just You without Drama trio since Flower of Evil. 10 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,920 Yep. It has been a really long time 11 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:56,720 since I've had you on. And this is the funniest thing. 12 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:01,400 But this episode is on Stranger, which is something that we 13 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,720 discussed on one of the drama trio episodes. 14 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,160 And I was like, would you be willing to come on? 15 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,320 I've never seen it. Would you be willing to come on? 16 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,760 And you were like, hell yeah, like absolutely. 17 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,160 I rewatch it, like the whole bit. 18 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:18,040 And I was like, OK, cool. I initially I had such high like 19 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:23,320 aspirations of watching both seasons of Stranger and 20 00:01:23,320 --> 00:01:26,440 reviewing both seasons on this episode, Girl, that didn't 21 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:27,360 happen. That didn't happen. 22 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:28,640 We're just going to do season one. 23 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:33,960 We're just we're just going to review season one because your 24 00:01:33,960 --> 00:01:37,480 girl got busy. I watched 10 episodes of another 25 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,000 show and then that recording got pushed back. 26 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,600 So that ate into my time and then just life happened. 27 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:49,200 So it just didn't happen. I got 30 minutes into episode 28 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:54,560 one of season 2. We're just gonna we're just 29 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,120 going to review Stranger season one. 30 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,320 So before we do, this is your first time listening. 31 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,400 Thank you. Go ahead and subscribe on your 32 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,040 favorite podcast app. We're on Apple podcast, Spotify, 33 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,000 Google Podcasts and many more. 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Thank you for being patrons. 45 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:47,000 OK, so this is the My Drama list synopsis for season one. 46 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,240 Like I said, we are only going to cover season one of Stranger. 47 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,640 There are two seasons out so far. 48 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,240 Don't worry, I'm making her watch season two. 49 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,320 Yeah, because we're going to get, we're going to get there. 50 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,000 I told her I was like, we have to circle back and do Season 2. 51 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,200 I really still want to watch Season 2, so maybe for spooky 52 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:11,840 season we'll circle back and do Season 2 of Stranger because I'm 53 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,240 not done with it. I really do want to finish it. 54 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,440 I've had so apparently I'm doing the Lord's work because 55 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,920 apparently I've had so many people sense that drama trio 56 00:03:22,920 --> 00:03:26,000 episode where I like just I can't remember what it was. 57 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:30,120 Yeah, me neither it. Was like, it was like it was, it 58 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,040 was like a recommendation thing. It was like one of the like we 59 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,440 did. It was like bring 10 dramas or 60 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,040 something. Was it the genre to talk about 61 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,080 them? I think maybe, yeah, yeah, it 62 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,760 probably is a drunk. OK, Yeah. 63 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,080 I've had so many people DM me and be like, I'm watching 64 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,320 Stranger, like I just finished season one, how could they do 65 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,160 this? Oh my God, I've had like four 66 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,040 people message me since that episode and I'm like, thank you. 67 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,760 Thank you for actually watching the show. 68 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,440 I Yeah. So I'm one of these people 69 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:06,040 because I was so intrigued with your assessment of it and your 70 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,840 synopsis of it. You really sold it on that drama 71 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,120 tree episode And I was I literally you can hear it like 72 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,640 it's live on the show that we recorded. 73 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,399 I was like, if we if I do it like for tip Hock, would you 74 00:04:17,399 --> 00:04:20,680 come on? And you were like, tell me when 75 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,520 like name the date, right. So this is it. 76 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,560 Like, we're here finally. So I'll just go ahead and read 77 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,200 the synopsis. We'll go through some behind the 78 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,840 scenes people, and then we'll just talk about the show. 79 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:35,080 I have to be up front. I did not take a single freaking 80 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,080 note on this show. I was just, like, in it, OK? 81 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,880 I was, like, immersed. All right, So here's a synopsis. 82 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,520 Hung Shimok underwent brain surgery as a child to curb his 83 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,560 violent temper, which left him devoid of emotions. 84 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:52,640 Huang becomes a prosecutor known for his piercing intelligence or 85 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,040 intellect? That's what I wanted to say, 86 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,360 Intellect and logic. But he is ostracized because he 87 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,920 lacks empathy and social skills. He is also one of only a handful 88 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,880 of upright prosecutors who have refused to take bribes. 89 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,280 One day, he encounters a stabbing victim while 90 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:10,800 investigating corruption. He meets Lieutenant Hanyu Jin at 91 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,720 the crime scene. They join force forces to root 92 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,920 out corruption at the prosecutor's office and solve a 93 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,960 serial murder case. Serial murder case. 94 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:25,080 OK, not sure about that bit. All right, this it works. 95 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,000 Out it's it's literally it's a basically serial murder case. 96 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,920 Is like they have more than three murders. 97 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:37,400 That's a serial murder case, OK. So this aired from June to July 98 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,880 2017. It is 16 episodes long and it's 99 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,480 directed by Ankil Hope. He really hasn't done anything 100 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:54,480 much at all, just things like the glory, The glory part one 101 00:05:54,480 --> 00:06:00,040 and two happiness record of youth watcher memories of the 102 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,440 Alhambra rooftop prints, which I've highly recommend. 103 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,560 Rooftop prints. I, I don't know why, I just love 104 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:14,520 that show and it is written by Isuyon, who was inspired by the 105 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:20,280 Korean saying we cannot rule those who want nothing to create 106 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:23,000 the character of Shemalk, which I thought was interesting. 107 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,000 I'm not sure exactly what that means. 108 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,640 You can muse about that if you if you like Caitlin, but I think 109 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,440 there might be something lost in translation. 110 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,920 I truly do. She's had a pretty good run 111 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:44,200 because she's done things like Life from 2018, which is a 112 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:48,520 medical drama with Ido Mook and a ton of cast members from 113 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,320 Stranger, including the male lead. 114 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,320 She also wrote Stranger 2, the sequel, in 2020. 115 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,760 And then she's been partnering with Disney lately because she's 116 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:03,960 done Grid, a Disney Plus show from 2022 with Sulkung Jun from 117 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,640 Are You Human Too? And I thought when I saw him, I 118 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,880 was like, Oh my God. And then Blood Free, she wrote 119 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,400 Blood Free, which is currently airing on Disney Plus with 120 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:19,400 Jujuyun and Han Yoju. Yeah, which is so good if you 121 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,160 need a recommendation. So you're watching it? 122 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:28,720 Yeah, yeah, I'm liking it a lot. All right, but so this show 123 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,040 Stranger stars toe so MU he plays Huang Shimok. 124 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,600 He's been in about 18 movies and a few TV shows like divorce 125 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,600 attorney Shin. He is the divorce attorney Shin. 126 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,960 He's also been in Sisyphus, The Myth, Stranger 2, The sequel, 127 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,040 Life. Like I said before, God's Gift, 128 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,200 14 Days and The King's Doctor. This is my first time ever 129 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,640 seeing this man. Oh, really? 130 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:55,760 Oh, yeah. Yeah. 131 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,560 OK. Have you seen him as a good? 132 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,520 Actor Yeah, yeah, I watched this. 133 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,840 Sisyphus. I don't recommend it and it's 134 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,680 not for the actors. The writing is horrible, 135 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:10,280 obviously. Stranger, Stranger 2 God's gift. 136 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,040 I have watched, but I did not watch Life and I have not 137 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,320 watched The King's Doctor All. Right. 138 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:18,360 And then his. I like him. 139 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,960 He's good. He's like, it's like, I think 140 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,200 Stranger is my favorite character he has played really, 141 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,400 but I have I have a soft spot for his like character, but he 142 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:35,960 is a very versatile actor. Like he, he, he chooses roles 143 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,200 that you would never picture him doing and then he does the role 144 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,320 and you're like, oh, OK, I understand why he did this role 145 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:50,440 'cause he's not like in, in my mind, he's not the typical 146 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,720 Korean actor. Like he doesn't have some like 147 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,560 especially appearance wise. You look at him and you're like, 148 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,560 it's an interesting look. Like people don't really, I, I 149 00:09:01,560 --> 00:09:04,440 don't, I don't normally see people like talking about him a 150 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,880 lot, especially when it comes to like, oh, he's a good looking 151 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,680 guy. I think he's a good looking guy, 152 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:11,800 but he doesn't come up in those types of lists. 153 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,880 OK, I was about to slide in and be like, he's super handsome. 154 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,920 I find him. I know, I know. 155 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,120 Yeah, OK. He's very handsome and he. 156 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,360 I mean, I don't know, I just. I've never seen those types of 157 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:23,560 lists. I think he's. 158 00:09:23,680 --> 00:09:25,440 Very man. In those type of lists, yeah. 159 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,960 But I think he's a very versatile actor. 160 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:32,040 He doesn't. He chooses roles that you 161 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,720 normally wouldn't think he could do or like, picture him doing. 162 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,960 And then he does them and he does them really, really good. 163 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,720 So I, I love him as an actor. I wish he would do more. 164 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,760 But he, he's a, he's a very much a movie actor. 165 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,800 Like he does a lot of movies. Yeah. 166 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,360 So then his Co star is Bay Doona. 167 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,840 That Bay Doona she plays Hanyo Jin the cop. 168 00:09:55,160 --> 00:10:01,000 She is the Watson to his Sherlock in this show and she's 169 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:09,120 been in about 21 ish movies, including a lot that is in our 170 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,720 side of the world. You know like rebel moon parts 171 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,400 one and two, which are terrible movies. 172 00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:20,480 She's she's. Good in them though apparently I 173 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:21,720 haven't seen them. But I haven't. 174 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:26,320 I refuse. So she's also little about me. 175 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,320 Umm, she's also been in Broker from 20/22 with IU. 176 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:35,920 She's worked with that director before in umm, something about a 177 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,800 doll. I, it's like a blow, uh, air 178 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,040 doll I think is the name of the movie that she was in. 179 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,960 Anyway, she's worked with that director before, the director of 180 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,600 Broker. She's been in Persona also with 181 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,760 IUI. Don't know if you've seen 182 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:51,840 Persona. Persona's bizarre. 183 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,200 I did. It is bizarre, but I have seen 184 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:54,960 it. OK, me too. 185 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,440 It is Netflix, yeah, Tunnel from 2016. 186 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,760 I really want to see Tunnel. Really good. 187 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,160 It's it's really good. Yeah, Jupiter. 188 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:06,880 It's heartbreaking, but it's good. 189 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,880 Oh no, don't tell me Tunnel's heartbreaking. 190 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,960 Well, I mean like I I wouldn't. The premise already sounds 191 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,200 heartbreaking. Yeah, the yeah, it's like, in 192 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,760 terms of like, just because of the premise, it's like a very 193 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,320 intense, heartbreaking show, but like. 194 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:23,040 Well, tunnel, Tunnel the movie. Yeah, the movie. 195 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,280 From 2016. So for those who don't know what 196 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,200 tunnel is about, I read the synopsis and I was like, I 197 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:28,800 definitely need to see, need to see this movie. 198 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,160 It is this man who is on his way to his daughter's birthday party 199 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,120 to celebrate his daughter's birthday. 200 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,040 He's got nobody else in the car with him and he's got his 201 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:40,160 daughter. He's bringing his daughter's 202 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,680 birthday cake with him. A tragic tunnel collapse happens 203 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,560 while he's driving through the tunnel and when he wakes up from 204 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:55,960 this this collapse, he's stuck inside his car with nothing but 205 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,160 2 bottles of water and the cake. Yeah, yeah. 206 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:00,720 And like that's that's the setup. 207 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:01,960 Wife. Yeah. 208 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:06,000 And Baidu no plays his wife or ex-wife. 209 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,360 I want to say they were divorced or separated. 210 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,960 I don't think they were like happily married, but I could be 211 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,800 wrong. I I I haven't watched the movie 212 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,720 in a very long time. I really want to say it. 213 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,160 So that's 2016 Jupiter Ascending, which is one of the 214 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,000 worst movies ever made. Cloud Atlas, one of the 215 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,000 strangest movies ever made. That's with Tom Hanks, Hugo 216 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,160 Weaving, Halle Berry, big All Star cast, super weird. 217 00:12:29,560 --> 00:12:32,600 The host from 2006, that's Bong Joon Ho. 218 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,560 Like amazing movie, amazing monster movie. 219 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,320 Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance from 2002. 220 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,400 Bei Duna almost doesn't even look like herself because she's 221 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,040 so young. This is like a / 20 years old. 222 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:47,960 2002 This is a Pachanuk movie. It's part of the Vengeance 223 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:52,400 trilogy. I covered it on the Patreon feed 224 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,800 last year during Was it last year or the year before? 225 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,640 I can't remember because I watched all three movies in the 226 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,320 Vengeance trilogy. So that put me in a real Bad Men 227 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:08,200 mental place, but I did it anyway. 228 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,040 So that's her movie work and then she's also been in a 229 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,000 handful of TV. Not as much TV as she has done 230 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,280 movie work, but she's done since 8:00. 231 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,400 From 2015 to 2018 she was a recurring character like she was 232 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:22,600 on this show. She was. 233 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:27,600 Fantastic. And Sansa Q was also in that 234 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,400 show, which, yeah, that's where I first saw her. 235 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,640 I first saw her in Sensei, right. 236 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,280 Which they're chemistry. I need them in a Korean drama 237 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,960 together. Like their chemistry is so good 238 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,520 at that. Show my Atlanta so Sense 8 that 239 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,120 was a real big hit for Netflix and that's why she's in so many 240 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:50,400 Netflix movies and so many Netflix shows including Kingdom 241 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,720 which was in 2019 and season 2 aired in 2020. 242 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,720 Kingdom is one of the best K dramas ever. 243 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:03,480 This was right at the start of when Netflix was investing in K 244 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,520 dramas right? And BAE Doona was like a Netflix 245 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:14,280 darling from Sense 8. And Kingdom is a zombie show of 246 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,120 epic proportions that is so good. 247 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,000 Jijiyun is in it as well. Stranger Two comes along in 248 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,360 2020. The Silence C which is also a 249 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:26,800 Netflix sci-fi show. K drama. 250 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,760 Not very good, but it's a, you know, out there if you want to 251 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,080 watch it was. It was fine. 252 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,880 It wasn't like the best ever, but it was decent. 253 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,600 Exactly. And then she will be in family 254 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,840 plan later this year. I don't know what that's about 255 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,920 at all, but I. Want to say it's another like 256 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,200 family of superheroes but I could be wrong. 257 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,320 Is it really? I I want to say it, it is oh. 258 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:51,720 Do you know that sounds familiar? 259 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,800 When they were announcing like the cast and Beiduna was in it. 260 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,720 I think it is like a superhero thing. 261 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,800 OK so that these two are the main. 262 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,200 I've seen, I've seen most of what BAE Doonas does. 263 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,880 I love her. I feel like I've seen a lot of 264 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,080 her too. I don't think she's a bad 265 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,760 actress at all. I think she's amazing. 266 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,680 And obviously she started as a model, kind of branched out and 267 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,840 made her name doing these movie like for all tours, right? 268 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:28,520 The Pacha Nuk and the Bong Joon Ho movies and the I forgot the 269 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,040 name of the director of Broker, but like that director too. 270 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,320 These three movies kind of put her on the map. 271 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,040 Right. Yeah. 272 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:40,560 And since then, she's been a staple of Western and Korean 273 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,920 media. Yeah, yeah. 274 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,600 She was like one of the first, even though I have been watching 275 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,040 Korean dramas years before she ever came onto the scene. 276 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:56,120 She was like one of the real first Korean actors that I 277 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,160 witnessed in American entertainment. 278 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:03,320 And nowadays you kind of see them pop up, like Kim Ji Hoon is 279 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,480 going to join Butterfly, for example. 280 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,680 But like back then when Sense 8 was happening, that did not 281 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,880 happen. That did not happen especially. 282 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,640 Because could we have like Daniel Dae Kim in Lost? 283 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,680 Yeah. And The thing is like and that 284 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,640 was even like Korean American like the fact they brought up. 285 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,000 Korean atrocious. Yeah, like. 286 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,400 When he spoke Korean, yeah. The fact that they brought over 287 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,080 like in sense 8, it made sense because it did take place in 288 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,000 Korea. Like they had to find Korean 289 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,160 actors, but like that was unheard of. 290 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:38,000 Usually you'd see like Asian Americans like they could. 291 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,280 They sometimes even didn't use the right ethnicity when they 292 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,520 were using Asians in American shows. 293 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:49,320 Like, so her being on Sense 8 and so Q is also. 294 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:54,680 And like, that was like my first exposure of, like, Korean actors 295 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,000 in an American show or movie. Yeah. 296 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,440 And not just in Korean productions. 297 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:06,400 Yeah, so already big cast. I don't want to go into 298 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,359 everybody else that's in this show. 299 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,920 Maybe Shin Hai San, who plays Unsu. 300 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,800 You've seen her before. I I I don't have her filmography 301 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,640 in front of me. EQ hyung as well is also in 302 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,640 this. I always consider him his loony 303 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,480 from prison playbook, that's how. 304 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:28,079 Her son was in like my 18th life for example. 305 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,320 Yeah, see you in my 19th. Life 19th. 306 00:17:31,360 --> 00:17:31,920 Life. Yeah. 307 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,640 See you in my 19th. Thank you for dragging my 308 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,560 memories. See you in my 19th Mr. Queen. 309 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:42,720 Mr. Queen shit, 30 but 17, which is I love that show. 310 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,760 So those are some shows from her. 311 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,240 And yeah, so there's some other people in the show as well, but 312 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,160 large, large cast, ensemble cast. 313 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:57,240 But those two, Chosung Wu and Beituna, are it like they are 314 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:02,480 the top billing of their show. This show did very, very well, 315 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,640 not just in ratings but also critically. 316 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:12,440 It did amazing. It was making topless on like 317 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,360 New York Times, like best list, best shows of 2017. 318 00:18:16,360 --> 00:18:20,560 I remember seeing that, like I remember seeing that list and 319 00:18:21,120 --> 00:18:24,200 when they, when they put that out, 'cause this is a 2017 show, 320 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:28,560 like it was their pic, The Stranger was a picture on that 321 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,440 article. It wasn't even like just like in 322 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,840 the article, I was like, and my, because my parents knew that I 323 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,600 watched Korean dramas, they like, pointed it out to me and 324 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,120 they're like, my dad's like, is this a good show? 325 00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:44,080 And I'm like, is this a good show? 326 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,560 Are you kidding me? It's a New York Times, of course 327 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,400 it's a good show. But like, that was a big deal. 328 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:53,400 That was like the first time I had ever witnessed a Korean 329 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:58,080 drama in like The New York Times Best of 2017 shows. 330 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,920 Like nowadays you kind of see that more commonly. 331 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:06,000 Like Kingdom was in it and Extraordinary Attorney Wu was in 332 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,800 it a couple years ago whenever that aired. 333 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,880 But like, that time was like the first time I had ever seen a 334 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,720 Korean drama in that whole article. 335 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,960 It was a big deal. So this thing did really well at 336 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:24,240 the Beck Song Awards, the 54th Beck Song Awards, and I am going 337 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,840 to read to you all the things that it won and was nominated 338 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,960 for. So it won just clean sweep the 339 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,720 Teh Song, the grand prize for TV, which is something that is 340 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,720 not announced beforehand. They don't announce who they are 341 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,600 thinking of nominee. They don't announce the 342 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,680 nominees. They don't announce who they are 343 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:47,320 considering for the day song until the night of and you they 344 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,560 announce the winner. They're just like this, this 345 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:54,440 person, this team, this TV show, this film won the day song, 346 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,440 which is incredible. Then later on they released like 347 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,640 who was in consideration and stuff like that, which is crazy. 348 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,600 But Tosung Wu, our male lead, won Best Actor cleanly. 349 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:10,000 Just won ISU Yon. ISU Yon, the screenwriter won 350 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,560 best screenplay. This is her debut work. 351 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,320 This is her first K drama she's ever written. 352 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,280 She won the best screenplay at the Beck Song Awards. 353 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,480 Incredible. This was not obviously nominated 354 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,560 for best drama. It lost to Mother that year. 355 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,640 It was on Kilhole. The director was nominated for 356 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:36,520 best director. He lost to Kim Yun Yun Chol for 357 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:42,560 The Lady in Dignity and EQ hyung who is loony from Prison 358 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:47,120 Playbook was nominated for Best New Actor and he lost to Yung 359 00:20:47,120 --> 00:20:51,120 Sejong for Temperature of Love. When I saw Temperature of Loving 360 00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:53,920 Yung Sejong, I like had a little conniption there. 361 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,440 I was like, Oh my God, I fucking love that show and I love Yung 362 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,040 Sejong in that show. So I was like, wow, he lost to 363 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:05,840 like a good newcomer, right? I, I, I just felt that it was 364 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,960 warranted because this guy was good, but like, not that. 365 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,800 I mean, it was he was a male lead in temperature of love and 366 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,080 stuff like that. He was just like a side 367 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:17,000 character in strangers. So anyway, I, I was reeling with 368 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,400 that reveal anyway, nominated 8 times. 369 00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:25,160 Crazy. Yeah, it was every. 370 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:29,440 It was everywhere. 3-4 anyway, nominated a lot of times. 371 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,360 I'm not sure if it was eight times, but a lot of time. 372 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,960 It was everywhere. Like it it took like it had 373 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,320 ratings. Like there's a reason why they 374 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,040 made season 2. Like everybody was really 375 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,560 surprised when they announced season 2 for this show. 376 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,160 I was not. I was like, dude, do you 377 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,600 remember how popular this show was? 378 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,640 Like it is it was a juggernaut in 2017. 379 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,600 Like ratings were double digits all the time. 380 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,800 It was obviously nominated a lot got recognition in New York 381 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,880 Times like that again, that never happened. 382 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,760 So like everybody was like, why are they making a season 2? 383 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,680 They never make season 2. And I'm like, it makes sense for 384 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,720 stranger. They're hecking they're they're 385 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,680 making like a spin off now this year. 386 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,280 So like I totally am. This is going to be one of those 387 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,280 shows that they're going to bring back every few years. 388 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,480 Like it's just built that way. I would not be surprised if we 389 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,440 get a season three. In my opinion, it just it's 390 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,960 yeah, I was not surprised whatsoever. 391 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,640 They made a season 2. Everybody else was. 392 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:34,440 I was like it makes total sense. Well, they built it I think to 393 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,680 be a multi season. Yeah, they did. 394 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,480 Yeah. And even season 2 ends up that 395 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,400 way where they could easily do a season three. 396 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,440 Like not even connected to either one of the other seasons. 397 00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:50,200 Not that Season 2 is not really connected to season one, but 398 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,400 like they, they built it that way. 399 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,600 It's kind of like Taxi Driver, like you can kind of just do a 400 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,040 season, yeah, every three years, every four years, whatever, 401 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,880 whatever. Yeah, it's great. 402 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:07,240 So this was my first time watching Stranger and my 403 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,360 experience watching Stranger, which let me just prep in case 404 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:12,720 you've gone this far and you didn't. 405 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,080 You can't quite wrap your head around what it is. 406 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,320 It is a crime thriller, drama. There is no romance. 407 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,880 We want romance, but there's not. 408 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,720 We want romance, so. There's no romance. 409 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:28,520 OK, That's what this is. So I went into this thinking I 410 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:36,720 have pretty good judgement of characters and people, and I can 411 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:42,440 figure out who the killer is and who the mastermind is because I 412 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,400 just have watched a lot of media and can do this or whatever. 413 00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:52,240 Baby, I didn't know who was go, who was who, what was going on, 414 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,160 who was the killer, who was the mastermind. 415 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,280 If things were changing each episode and you could only trust 416 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,560 two people and that was the two leads, Bei Duna and Shimo, the 417 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:10,120 the male lead, I was riveted to the screen. 418 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,760 I could not tear my eyes away. And it was right around episode 419 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,680 10 or 11 that I started getting real lost. 420 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,680 I was like, Oh my God, I don't know what's. 421 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:28,480 I literally was like, I have no idea what's going on because 422 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,880 they were doubling back on themselves. 423 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:36,000 And they were people that they had sort of cleared from 424 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,720 suspicion were back on the table. 425 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,720 You know what I'm saying? Like it was, it was very 426 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,960 cyclical and. Right, right. 427 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,280 If, if that's not your bag, if, if crime thrillers are not your 428 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:54,360 bag and rooting out corruption in the police force or the 429 00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:57,800 prosecution service is not your idea of a good time, I'm sorry, 430 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,840 don't watch. But this was so exciting to 431 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,880 watch because I can't, I don't know how to put it, but it was 432 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:11,960 very suspenseful. It was very Sherlocky and. 433 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,920 Right. I had, I had a tremendous sight. 434 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,120 I have crazy eyes right now. I I do talking about this. 435 00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:26,160 I was sending, I was sending Caitlin these crazy voice memos 436 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,120 of like, I just got to this episode and this happened. 437 00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:33,200 I don't know what's going on. I don't know who to trust. 438 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,960 I I thought this person was good, but they're not like, I 439 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,720 need help. Like, I was sending her really 440 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,680 unhinged messages and all the Caleb would send back would be 441 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,840 like, yeah, I told you it was crazy. 442 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,520 Like that's all. There would be no help at all. 443 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,280 She would just be like, Yep, keep going. 444 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,200 Because I didn't want to say anything because I'm afraid I 445 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,400 wouldn't spoil it. I had one guess it was wrong, 446 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,120 like it was I'm telling you. I was very entertained. 447 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,440 Yeah, you were super entertained. 448 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,720 And every time we would talk, you would just be like, Oh my 449 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,440 God, I would send you these crazy gifts of like, screaming 450 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,880 like things. And Oh my God, it was such a bit 451 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,120 of a haunted house thing where it's like you turn a corner and 452 00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:23,760 it was you didn't know what was there. 453 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,440 And that is the best kind of plot, the best kind of writing 454 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:35,840 that it's not, you're not being taken for a ride in the in a in 455 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,920 the wrong sense. You're being taken for a ride in 456 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,880 the best sense. Right, right. 457 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,240 So I cannot recommend Stranger enough. 458 00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:52,080 I think it's a master class in telling a story and and putting 459 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,120 a lot of puzzle pieces in front of you. 460 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,000 And the audience is still like, I don't know how to put this 461 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,240 together. Right. 462 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,640 And that's what I loved about it because again, I watch a ton of 463 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:10,160 crime dramas and so if I can predict the ending, I usually 464 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:15,080 drop them because I, I, I don't know, my mind works in a way. 465 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,520 I'm not like boasting or anything. 466 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,120 There's definitely a lot that I'm unpredictable, like I can't 467 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:21,800 predict, but there are somewhere it's like, I totally know where 468 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,480 this is going. I'm not going to watch it. 469 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,400 Stranger was one of those where I had no idea what was going on. 470 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,280 Both seasons, like both seasons. Like I think the other thing 471 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,160 that helps out this show too is like you have multiple mysteries 472 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,680 that pop up. So it's not just one crime in in 473 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,080 stranger. You have murder, you have 474 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,560 corruption. You have like just sketchy 475 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,560 people like everything so and then. 476 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,720 Everything. And what are they hiding like? 477 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,840 And everything connected by the end. 478 00:27:55,280 --> 00:28:00,040 But like, you have so much crime and so many threads going on 479 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,840 there's you can't predict it. And it's just masterfully woven 480 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,680 together at the end. Yeah, yeah. 481 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,040 So I don't know how much else to say because it's it. 482 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,480 We'll get into spoiler territory very quickly. 483 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,200 Yeah. And I don't got any notes 484 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,840 either. I just said, I said at the top, 485 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,920 like I came in raw, like I don't have any notes. 486 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,960 I didn't take anything down when I was watching this show. 487 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,680 So I almost feel like we should just give our ratings or maybe 488 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:36,040 like no, even like favorite scenes and stuff. 489 00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:39,200 We'll get into spoilers. It would be spoilers, yeah. 490 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,560 Maybe is there a character that you really connected with? 491 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,240 I love Shebuk like he's he's my favorite. 492 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:52,760 I always I have a soft spot for like his type of character where 493 00:28:52,760 --> 00:29:00,400 it's like the quiet type, the calculating type, the like 494 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,920 observant type, like I couldn't I relate a lot to that type of 495 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,000 character. So I immediately loved him out 496 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,240 the get go. And then also just because he 497 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,320 his character brings a comedy side to the show that like he 498 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,440 never would have expected just because his brain works 499 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,320 differently that he doesn't. And I said this in the drama 500 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,600 trio, like he can't comprehend. Like, for example, we know all 501 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,360 of Korea has these like, society rules, how you have to be 502 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:38,440 respectful to your elders and like respect the rules and 503 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,480 authority and stuff. His mind can't comprehend that 504 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,520 Like they, he's like, why the heck are we following this? 505 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,720 And so he has much, a lot of these scenes in both seasons 506 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,000 where he's just like, Oh, yeah, I'm supposed to shake your hand 507 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,760 because you're like my son back or like, yeah, I should answer 508 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,920 that question because you're my son, BAE. 509 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,920 But like, why am I answering this question? 510 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,840 Like it's. And he brings A and he like in 511 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,880 his own mind. Like he doesn't see it as 512 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,440 comedy. He's just like, it's a logical 513 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:14,240 thinking of his brain. So then BAE Doon is like you 514 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,160 like you like, she explains it, which is why it's the Sherlock 515 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:23,240 Watson relationship. But yeah, I just, I love his 516 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,520 character. And then I love him and Beijuna, 517 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,120 like, together. Like, I love their relationship 518 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,240 so much. But yeah, I absolutely love his 519 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,000 character in this drama. I do too. 520 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,680 I love them both. I loved Shimuk so much. 521 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,800 I thought he was very endearing. Like considering the fact that 522 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:47,560 he has very little empathy. He's not smiling, he's not 523 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,560 laughing, he's not joking around with people. 524 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,040 There's very little to latch onto. 525 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,760 I found him incredibly endearing. 526 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,320 Yeah. And I think that goes to show of 527 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:04,480 like chosen Wu's like acting and like how he portrayed the 528 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:09,200 character because even when you are playing a character with 529 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:15,920 that type of like emotional block, you still latch on to 530 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,360 something with that. Character, in my opinion, it's 531 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:23,240 hard to do, yeah. Like you can see him constantly 532 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:31,200 working things out and the gears turning constantly and him 533 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,640 questioning things and how to. Like the social situations thing 534 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,480 is very comical at times and then also very tense at times 535 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,200 because it's suddenly very high in their society. 536 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,120 It's very high stakes, especially when you're dealing 537 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,200 with corruption and the person that he's not shaking hands 538 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,720 with, he's invested, he's investigating and possibly could 539 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,760 have done something very terrible. 540 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,200 Right. So then it becomes this whole 541 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,120 like thing, right? Like it spirals out of control, 542 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:07,200 his sort of withholding of respect in in these situations. 543 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,640 So you're kind of it's in some instances you're like, oh, 544 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:11,920 that's funny, like he didn't do this. 545 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,560 And then others, others you're like, is he making a statement? 546 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:20,400 Is he just being, you know, himself or does he he definitely 547 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,760 doesn't trust that he distrust this person. 548 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,800 So is he doing this on purpose? Like is he trying to get a rise 549 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,760 out of this person? So you're kind of like also 550 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,760 coming across all of these reasons why he couldn't be doing 551 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:39,520 for these performative actions, right? 552 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,920 And it's so interesting to read the room and read it like he 553 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,840 might. And then also, it's interesting 554 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:57,040 to see where like, even though he is not intentionally doing 555 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,720 some of these social things, he just like, realizes after the 556 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,080 fact, like, oh, I should have done this or oh, I need to do 557 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,560 that. Like, what else makes him 558 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,680 endearing is like, he still has people that want to be his 559 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:10,520 friend. Yeah. 560 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,720 There's just something about his character, even within the show 561 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,920 that. Other characters still want to 562 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,280 righteous. Yeah. 563 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:24,920 And commanding that people want to get to know him. 564 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,080 Yeah, yeah. And so and. 565 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,160 There's not much to get to know and like. 566 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,280 Exactly. That's what's. 567 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,760 Funny is that like there's not, it's very shallow, shallow water 568 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:34,920 there. So yeah. 569 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,440 And it's not like people treat him as a child. 570 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,680 Like, that's not, that's not what we're saying either. 571 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,680 It's like they very much understand he's adult, He 572 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,160 doesn't act like a child or anything like that, but like 573 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,920 there's just something as I can't like really describe it 574 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,280 anyway. There's something really 575 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,920 endearing about him, even though. 576 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,760 But it's a a strength. It's like it's not a weak 577 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,360 weakness, endearing like you would think maybe in a child 578 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,760 who's in very big situations like the the ones in the show. 579 00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:09,800 Right. It's like a strength. 580 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:11,760 Yeah. In the show. 581 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,400 Yeah. And then Beiduna, who I love, I, 582 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:20,800 I connected a lot with Beiduna because she is LED a lot by her 583 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:26,159 feelings and emotions, but she's very calculating and observant 584 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:31,159 as well. And I just love the how dogged 585 00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:32,600 she is. Yeah. 586 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:38,960 In the pursuit of justice and in the pursuit of, you know, 587 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,719 criminals and things, she's running after people and like 588 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,320 using judo on them and stuff. And I'm like, get it, girl. 589 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:49,120 And I love how she has this very nuanced take, especially like 590 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,000 towards the middle and like end of the show. 591 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,600 She has this very nuanced take on good and bad because no one 592 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,480 is all good and no one is all bad. 593 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:03,400 We are all Shades of Grey. And she has this opinion that's 594 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,400 like we like all of us are pretty. 595 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,320 Like none of us are good. Right, right. 596 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,920 You know what I'm saying? Like no matter like what, we 597 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,680 think that we're better than some of these criminals because 598 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,400 we didn't murder someone or do this or that and the other like 599 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:25,240 we're not good either just because we didn't do this 600 00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:28,160 criminal thing. Like what makes us good? 601 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,840 Are we better than them? Like just, you know, she has 602 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,360 this really cool ideology that I, because I took no notes and 603 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,280 didn't get the actual quote. I'm paraphrasing. 604 00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:43,840 But I really appreciate her take and how she is basically like, 605 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,400 look, we're all kind of sucky, right? 606 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,480 Let's just try and be a little better, yeah? 607 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,320 But I think that's why she's drawn to Shimak so much is 608 00:35:55,320 --> 00:36:02,200 because even though like he has this past where he wasn't very 609 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:07,120 good and that also still plays into that quote. 610 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,320 Currently, when the show is when he's an adult, he really is the 611 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:18,400 epitome of a good like, which is ironic because he's like doesn't 612 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,520 understand the societal norms and everything, but he literally 613 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,680 is the epitome of a good Korean citizen 'cause he. 614 00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:28,520 Follows the. Rules and like. 615 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,680 He's fair. Fair and like doesn't take 616 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,160 bribes. Like he's the best you could 617 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,800 possibly be in that situation. Which to take? 618 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,440 Like not take bribes. That's like bare minimum. 619 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,120 Exactly like. Bare minimum, don't take bribes. 620 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,720 Exactly. And like you'll see in the show 621 00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:49,520 that he does like there are things that he regrets and could 622 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,040 have done better and could have done that. 623 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:57,960 But like it's, it's not like the bad type of thing that like you 624 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,720 other see other people do. So like it's really interesting. 625 00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:04,240 Just like they do it, they do not having that mindset. 626 00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:08,720 And then meeting see, Mukim is like, OK, like he's like the 627 00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:13,280 best example ever. And he still has flaws, which we 628 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:18,760 will we find out later on. They're both willing to call 629 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,640 their colleagues out on their shit. 630 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,000 Which? Yeah, yeah. 631 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,720 Even today, if you were in a similar situation in, in a, 632 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,840 you're in the Justice Department, right? 633 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,200 Are you going to call out your colleagues who have seniority 634 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,640 over you in a very hierarchical society? 635 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,280 I don't know like. That's who. 636 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,640 And who like expect you to not call them out, right? 637 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:54,200 To have their back, to do the corrupt things they do to to 638 00:37:54,240 --> 00:38:00,000 make sure the the reputation, the reputation of the entity as 639 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,800 a whole stays intact. Right. 640 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,840 Yeah, yeah. That's a major theme in this 641 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,560 show. Yes, huge. 642 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,160 And they both say fuck that. Yes I will, and it's amazing 643 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,480 you're you're taking that's the ride. 644 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:19,000 That's literally the whole show is them going to bat for truth 645 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,680 and justice and the American way. 646 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,600 I'm just kidding. Not the American way, but you 647 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,920 know what I'm saying? It's like just what is right, 648 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:35,560 right, period. And I really just enjoyed their 649 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,160 camaraderie, their journey, how she softens him, how when 650 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,400 they're in situations together, she kind of plays the good cop 651 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,840 and he, because he's so direct, plays the bad cop like he 652 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,200 doesn't like because he has no filter. 653 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:56,320 He has no like levels to things. It's just one tone the entire 654 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,840 time. He inherently comes across as 655 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:04,360 the bad cop and then she can come in and sort of like finagle 656 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,560 and charm her way into being the good cop and get different 657 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:13,440 information or whatever. So I love their dynamic together 658 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,080 throughout the show and them eating together is great because 659 00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:20,640 they what is it? She? 660 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,800 He doesn't like salty food and he's constantly and they don't 661 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,320 say what it is until later in the show because they just show 662 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,200 him like going to eat by himself, which again, is very 663 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,000 he's an outcast in the prosecution service. 664 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,560 So he goes to eat by himself. He doesn't give a shit. 665 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,440 Everyone else gives a shit. He doesn't give a shit that he's 666 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,040 eating by himself And he he's constantly putting water in his 667 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,560 soup. And you see him kind of going 668 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:52,320 like, oh, like kind of do having these reactions to the soup, to 669 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,440 the food. And you're like, is it too hot? 670 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,400 Like, is it what, what is it? Is it too spicy? 671 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,640 Like what's going on? No, it's too salty. 672 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,360 Right. And she understands him. 673 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,160 Like they go to eat at one of those tents, I forgot what 674 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,080 they're called, but like the tents, the outdoor tents, right? 675 00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:10,800 And he orders a soup. He does the same thing. 676 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,080 And she's like, oh, it's too salty. 677 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:16,160 And it she understands him. Yeah, well, the other thing is, 678 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,120 is she's the only one that allows him to eat. 679 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,520 Like that's also the running joke in both seasons is where 680 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,440 it's like he goes to take a bite and like something. 681 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,120 He gets a call. He gets a call. 682 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,440 Or like somebody walks in or like whatever. 683 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,680 So like. The you. 684 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,800 The only times you see him eat is if he's with her. 685 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:41,200 So it's like, or even like alone when he's in his apartment. 686 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,200 You'd never see him eat ever in his apartment. 687 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,160 So yeah. And that's also like a running 688 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,200 joke where he, like, has no time to eat ever. 689 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:55,640 Yeah, I also like the the the juxtaposition of like his 690 00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:00,360 apartment is very sterile and there's no personality but 691 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,760 there. But something about him and the 692 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,720 way that he plays his character, Tosungu is warm. 693 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,280 Yeah, yeah. Like he treats people with a 694 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,560 baseline respect. Right. 695 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,520 Yeah. No matter their status. 696 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:25,640 And the personality that starts to inject itself into his home 697 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,720 comes from her because of the little doodles that she gives 698 00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:32,160 him, right? And instead of throwing them 699 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,880 out, which you would expect this dude to just be like, OK, like, 700 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,800 she threw a brain. And like, this little bit is 701 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:42,800 like, my emotional capacity. And this part is like, my desire 702 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,480 to finish the case and think like, it was like, this thing in 703 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,760 the show, this moment in the show for this one doodle. 704 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,000 And you expect him to throw out these doodles, which accumulate. 705 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,240 Instead, he saves them. Yeah, because he looks annoyed 706 00:41:57,240 --> 00:41:58,760 when she gets these. Yeah. 707 00:41:59,720 --> 00:42:03,800 These doodles to him, yeah. And later on in the show, she's 708 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,680 in his apartment and she sees them, and she just, like, smiles 709 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:11,720 to herself. And those moments are so cute 710 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:16,440 and, like, establish this relationship between them. 711 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,480 And it's those moments, those glimmers between them that 712 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,480 you're like, why aren't they together? 713 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,880 Exactly? That's what we mean. 714 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,360 That's what we mean by there should be romance, but there 715 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,520 isn't. There's literally no romance at 716 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:36,040 all in this show. It's because they have such a 717 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,640 connection. Right. 718 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,320 Yeah, that's that's that's going on. 719 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,000 Two seasons. Two seasons, No romance going 720 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,840 on. To see that, oh God, 32 721 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,320 episodes. I honestly don't. 722 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:55,400 I mean, knowing the character like you know there you can 723 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,600 never comprehend romance really. Like it just won't. 724 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,680 It wouldn't make sense. It really wouldn't. 725 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,200 So I think like this relationship is pretty much as 726 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,680 close of like quote UN quote or romance you will get with his 727 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,920 character. Like he just cannot comprehend 728 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,840 that at all because he's just too logical. 729 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,480 So it wouldn't make sense if all of a sudden they started dating 730 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,000 in like season three or something. 731 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,160 It's just, it wouldn't make sense at all. 732 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,200 But we can hope and pray that would happen. 733 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,480 And like look off into the distance and kind of look at him 734 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,400 in the alternative world because they they have such chemistry 735 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:34,880 like the. Chemistry is so. 736 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,960 Good. Yeah, good. 737 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,760 Anyway, I don't know if there's anything else we can talk about 738 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,080 without getting into, like, true spoilers, Right? 739 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,280 Right. Anyway, we did our best. 740 00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:49,320 What would you rate this show out of five sold you bottles? 741 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:55,840 I think I know the answer, yeah. Like I would rate this one of my 742 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,720 favorite shows. Oh my God, Yeah, yeah. 743 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,000 I would rate this 4 1/2 out of five and the .5 is literally 744 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,920 just because I have a pea brain and I was a little bit too lost 745 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,600 last few episodes. But I'm positive that if I 746 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:14,000 rewatch the show I would appreciate it even more. 747 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,200 That happened to me with season 2 because I rewatched season 2 748 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,360 and I rated it like a nine when I first watched it. 749 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,000 I still loved it, but it was it all. 750 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,720 It was really confusing when I first watched it 'cause I was 751 00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:31,600 watching it as an aired. So I think it helped that I like 752 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,520 was binging it this time. So I raised it to a 9.5 'cause I 753 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,280 could appreciate the drama more. But got you. 754 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,400 Yeah, I completely understand why this would be confusing. 755 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,920 It is one of those dramas you have to really pay attention. 756 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,440 You have to like, you cannot. Just. 757 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,080 Put it in the background and expect to. 758 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,920 Get it? You have to pay attention. 759 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,520 You can't look at your phone like you can't do any. 760 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,920 It's one of those. Even season 2 is the same way 761 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,160 like you cannot. It's not one of those where 762 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,680 you're half assed watching it. You have to watch it to 763 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,960 understand what's going on. For sure, for sure. 764 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,240 OK, so those are our ratings. We're going to get into spoilers 765 00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:11,520 right after this as much as I can. 766 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:16,240 Again, I don't have a very good memory and I was very confused 767 00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:18,720 for a little bit of the show, so we'll see. 768 00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:22,920 And I have no notes, so we'll see how much I can contribute to 769 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,600 the spoiler section. But yeah, we're going to do 770 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:30,080 spoilers right after this. Excuse me, I can't tell. 771 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,560 I can't tell you know. I am noting. 772 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,200 Oh sorry, swear this crossing shells. 773 00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:43,520 What? All right, we're on the other 774 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,080 side of spoilers. So if you don't care about 775 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,640 spoilers, keep listening. But if you want to preserve your 776 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:55,080 first time watch of stranger season one, then stop watching, 777 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,200 stop listening and come back later. 778 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,560 Keep listening after you've watched the show. 779 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:04,240 So I don't know where you want to start Caitlyn or what you 780 00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:13,120 want to say, but like, I, I thought that the Oh my God, I 781 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,480 don't have, I don't, I don't even have nicknames written down 782 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:20,360 for these people. So Yu Jian Myong plays Ichang 783 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,840 Jun, who is like the chief prosecutor. 784 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,360 And then he gets promoted to the Blue House. 785 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:33,600 He quits the prosecution service and then he gets not promoted, 786 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:38,760 but like affirmed into the Blue House or whatever, Right, Right. 787 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:48,160 And he has the crazy wife and the the table father-in-law, 788 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,400 right. So this guy, I always thought he 789 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,240 was sketchy. I was like he's for sure in on 790 00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:58,880 it. Like he he has to be the 791 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:03,280 murderer of Mr. Park because Mr. Park is the dead body. 792 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:07,240 Mr. Body. We'll call him Mr. Body because 793 00:47:07,240 --> 00:47:11,720 he's the first body that we see. He's the the murder that kind of 794 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,240 colors the whole show. He's the. 795 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,160 One found in the house. He's the one found in the house, 796 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,560 he's the one that was stabbed to death in his own house. 797 00:47:21,720 --> 00:47:24,920 But this guy wasn't a savory character at all. 798 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:30,680 He was bribing almost the entire prosecution service and 799 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:36,920 providing them with women, underage girls of money 800 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,040 services, what you name it. He was like procuring it for 801 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:44,160 them, for his own gains as well as other people's gains. 802 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,640 He was like a broker. Yeah, because he was using all 803 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:52,400 of that as leverage in terms of blackmail when it if he needed 804 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,800 to, if he had, he had all this information against basically 805 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,760 anybody in leadership on both, like just not even the 806 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,520 prosecution. Like the IT was like cops, it 807 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,720 was CEO, it was, it was everybody, everybody who was 808 00:48:05,720 --> 00:48:08,040 anybody. He had everyone's dirty laundry. 809 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,120 Yeah, yeah. So it was just a matter of time 810 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,080 before he, I mean, he had a target on his back because. 811 00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:16,800 Absolutely. And he knew it, that's why. 812 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:17,960 And he knew it. House. 813 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,360 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 814 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:25,840 So Mr. Body dies and Ichangjun, the chief prosecutor, I'm just 815 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,800 going to call him the chief prosecutor, even though like 816 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,160 another chief prosecutor comes in. 817 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,240 It's very confusing. But anyway, chief Prosecutor 818 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:37,880 Changdun, he's sketchy because you think that he was like 819 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,720 sleeping with an underage girl. They had like video footage of 820 00:48:41,720 --> 00:48:48,160 her going into his hotel room at like this conference, conference 821 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,120 that they went to and stuff like that. 822 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,720 And he didn't sleep with her. He like swore up and down and 823 00:48:53,720 --> 00:48:58,200 like he didn't sleep with her. And he was just, he hated she 824 00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:59,680 Monk. Like you could tell that there 825 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:05,440 was animosity between him and well, not she Monk didn't give a 826 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,560 shit. But like he hated she Monk 827 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,280 didn't like that he was so righteous that he was so 828 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:17,560 proactive against like all this corruption and fine. 829 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:24,000 Well, I think he also didn't like the fact that he didn't bow 830 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,960 down to him. Like, he, he, he because Shima 831 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:32,040 didn't understand that this dude was your boss. 832 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,480 Like, you needed to bow to him. You needed to shake his hand. 833 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,840 Yeah, he didn't like that. He didn't like the fact that 834 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,920 there was this guy who unintentionally, like, he viewed 835 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,080 it as intentional. He did not think like the, the 836 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,400 chief prosecutor didn't think like 'cause at the time when 837 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,840 this was going on, the chief prosecutor didn't know what 838 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:56,240 actually was happening with Shamuk and his head, but like he 839 00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:58,800 thought it was intentional. He thought Shamuk was doing it 840 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,720 in terms of like to undermine him. 841 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,840 So he didn't like that either. Like he on one hand, he didn't 842 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,880 like the fact he was like digging up all this dirt and. 843 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,640 Like he was good at his. Corruption but also didn't like 844 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,880 the fact he didn't bow to him and view him as his boss. 845 00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:16,760 Yeah, yeah. Didn't show him proper. 846 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,760 But then at the end you find out he kind of did at the same time, 847 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,640 like he did respect him at the same time. 848 00:50:23,240 --> 00:50:26,760 It was interesting. I almost don't know if they did 849 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:31,480 it. I don't know because what threw 850 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:36,920 me off the scent was this like holier than thou speech that he 851 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,120 gave in. Like, I don't, I don't think it 852 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,400 was midway through the show, maybe like 1/4 of the way 853 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:48,920 through the show, he comes to like Shemukh and he says like, I 854 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,640 basically, I believe in justice. I believe in the prosecution 855 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,000 service. I didn't do this thing that you 856 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,520 accused me of. And basically, again, I'm 857 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,200 paraphrasing because I don't got the quote in front of me at all. 858 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:08,880 He was like, I don't, you know, I believe in, in the process, 859 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,760 the process, the justice system and stuff like that. 860 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,880 And he did. And his acting was so good 861 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:21,440 because I believed him. I was like, I think maybe he's 862 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:26,000 telling the truth that he, he, this is his religion. 863 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,920 You know what I'm saying? That he. 864 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,040 Well, I think The thing is is. Actually righteous. 865 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,080 I think that's like that, that what was great about the speech, 866 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:38,160 Is it it that's what he thought. He trusted the process and he 867 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:43,600 trusted the system, but he then got married to Hanjo's heiress 868 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,000 and that's when it went downhill. 869 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:53,320 Like that's the problem is like he did he he, he was Shemukh 870 00:51:53,720 --> 00:51:57,400 before he got married and before he got entangled in Hanjo. 871 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:04,960 And then he at the end, he was like, I am aware, I'm fully 872 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,120 aware that I am not the person I was before I married this 873 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,320 person. While I love her, I have done 874 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:16,080 very sketchy things and I will own up to it, quote UN quote 875 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,920 Shimuk. And Shimuk is the only person I 876 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:27,640 can trust because I'm well aware that he is never going to take a 877 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,240 bribe. He's never going to be corrupt, 878 00:52:29,240 --> 00:52:32,400 he's never going to do all that. So he literally is the only 879 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,400 person I can trust with all this information and whatever. 880 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,720 So I respect him. Like the The thing is, is like 881 00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:45,800 he realized I might hate the guy because he never like it might 882 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,520 rub my mind. Yeah, it. 883 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,960 But I have to respect him. I have to respect his his. 884 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,200 I got to respect the game. Yeah, I have. 885 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,440 Yeah, his yeah. So I mean it it, it was a very 886 00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,040 interesting dynamic with this character because he he was 887 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,600 Shimuk before he married Hanjo and then Hanjo got. 888 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,240 Corrupted. Along with like everybody else, 889 00:53:07,240 --> 00:53:10,280 got corrupted by. It wasn't just a corruption of 890 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:18,360 like deeds, it was like a corruption of his soul. 891 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:23,400 Almost like he felt like he betrayed his own values and his 892 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:28,480 moral, his own sense of morality by marrying this person that he 893 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:33,800 loves who has a the devil as a father. 894 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:40,120 Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that and that was his 895 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:44,320 downfall. Like he he was ended up being 896 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,560 the devil's advocate. Yeah, and then you, I always 897 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,360 love the scene when they're in the courtroom where he's like, 898 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,160 you're never going to see me on trial. 899 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,240 Because like, you'll never see me. 900 00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:58,240 You'll never prosecute me. Because like, I never predicted 901 00:53:58,240 --> 00:54:00,600 his ending. I thought he would like, go on 902 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,080 trial. And then I was like, oh, he was 903 00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,560 like, that was foreshadowing he. Literally was like, you will 904 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,840 never catch me alive. Right? 905 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,560 Exactly. And we both thought we're going 906 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,000 to see him alive at the end of the show. 907 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:24,000 Psych No, he ends up killing himself, which I despite the 908 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:29,920 fact that this was always foreshadowed, I and and the I 909 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,200 don't like when they do this. Like I I'm going to precipice 910 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,800 this whole thing by saying I don't like when they do this in 911 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,360 general in K dramas. Is that the person who has done 912 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:41,040 the most wrong, who is at fault for everything? 913 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,280 Hold on, hold on, let me finish. Hold on, hold on, let me finish. 914 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,520 So the person who is at fault like the the murderer, the 915 00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,840 rapist or whatever, they end up killing themselves to escape 916 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,480 consequences, punishment, what have you. 917 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,320 I hate when that happens because then and then the show like 918 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,040 moves the fuck on like quickly They're like, OK, I guess that's 919 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,120 done. Can't prosecute a dead person. 920 00:55:07,720 --> 00:55:12,120 In this case, they did it the best way possible because this 921 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:18,400 person was going through internal turmoil for the better 922 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:24,600 part of 20 years and he was like, his letter to his wife was 923 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,200 wild, was like unhinged. She was like Korea's on the 924 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,840 brink of societal collapse, blah blah blah blah. 925 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:36,280 Nothing sacred. Well, it was like crazy and I 926 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:40,880 was like, Oh my God, there's no he for years wanted to kill 927 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,920 himself because he felt so trapped. 928 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,160 Trapped. That's a great word. 929 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,320 He felt so trapped because he loved his wife. 930 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:54,920 He never cheated on her and loved his daughter and, and 931 00:55:54,920 --> 00:56:00,760 like, but at the same time, look at everything that his 932 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,960 father-in-law made him do, made him say yes to. 933 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:10,280 And you can't like choose in Korean society especially. 934 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:14,160 I feel like that's cutting off your father-in-law. 935 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,160 Right. And especially in his situation, 936 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:19,280 like in his. Situation. 937 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:20,960 He wasn't rich when he married the. 938 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,440 Family. Like it was very apparent he 939 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:28,880 came from a poor upbringing. He was like lucky to be married 940 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,440 to her in terms of society terms. 941 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,840 Like he could not say no to his. He married. 942 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:36,360 Could not. Yeah, he married. 943 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,160 To everyone else's eyes, he married up. 944 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,200 Yeah, and his father-in-law knew and exploited that. 945 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,480 Yeah. Yeah, it was foul. 946 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:51,600 And there was no escape like his daughter was studying abroad, 947 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:56,760 like this would never happen if he was like, we can't be aligned 948 00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:01,400 with your chaebol family. Like we have to go it alone. 949 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:03,640 Right. Yeah. 950 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:11,400 So it was, it was undeniable that he would kill himself to 951 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:12,880 escape. Yeah. 952 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,800 And make. Himself the scapegoat yeah, but 953 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,840 at the same time like he revealed everything and revealed 954 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:26,320 like he he can't he went out as a morally Gray character in my 955 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,880 opinion because. Because whether he did what he 956 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,560 did, yeah. He did, still at. 957 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:32,880 The end of the show, you're like, what did he? 958 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,880 Think yeah, but the one thing you. 959 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,240 Know he did. Was a whistleblower at the. 960 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,240 Same. Yeah, he was a exactly He was a 961 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,040 whistleblower, but you don't know exactly what he did. 962 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:47,840 The only thing you know for sure is that he instigated Looney 963 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:52,360 from Prison Playbook or Seven O. We'll call him Seven O because 964 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:53,520 of the tattoo. Yeah. 965 00:57:54,880 --> 00:58:00,640 He instigated 7 O to kill. Mr. Body Yeah, yeah. 966 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,160 And like, orchestrated that whole thing for him. 967 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,680 Right. Which means he is a murderer. 968 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:12,480 Like I said, maybe that's it. Like that. 969 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:13,920 Is that the worst thing that he did? 970 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,840 Like on paper, I don't know. They showed him like winning and 971 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:22,960 dining with people in a one of those bars, not bars, sushi host 972 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,000 clubs, sushi restaurants or something. 973 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,200 And he obviously maintained that he never cheated on his wife, so 974 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,240 it's not like he was taking sexual favors. 975 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,480 Right. But like, what else did he do? 976 00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,120 Like he, I think it was all paper. 977 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:38,800 I think he was all doing stuff on paper. 978 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,240 Yeah, it was all about like money. 979 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,240 Yeah, it was all about. Laundering. 980 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,720 Money it was. It was all had to do with that, 981 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,160 that town or city that they were like building. 982 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,440 Yeah. And he was basically funneling 983 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,600 money through it. He was basically laundering 984 00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,960 money like he was laundering money through it. 985 00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:03,560 And then also all of these people, because he was so high 986 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:08,560 up, he got some people off the hook in terms of crimes and in 987 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,040 terms of that too, so. Like which to me? 988 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,080 Helped people. Through the system. 989 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:17,000 It wouldn't be so bad if he was a defense attorney, right? 990 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,640 Unless he was doing something illegal, like, you know, 991 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,400 altering evidence and like, you know what I'm saying. 992 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,480 Like, well, that's what the law. And that's I think was part of 993 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,760 it. Plus he was on the wrong side. 994 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,440 Plus he was on the prosecution service side. 995 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:37,480 So is just bad. But again, they don't go into 996 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,640 detail about what he did so wrong. 997 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:44,200 But anyway, he kills himself and I think it was done the best 998 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,040 way. This is terrible to say like 999 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,240 that. The suicide was done in the most 1000 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:52,600 tasteful way. I think it was presented in the 1001 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,440 most tasteful way. Right. 1002 00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,800 Yeah. Yeah, but it you were, you were 1003 00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:06,320 taken aback. Well, I at the first time I'd 1004 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,680 ever watch this, I just didn't predict it even though they 1005 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:14,800 foreshadowed it. Like so I I it made sense for 1006 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,560 the character after it happened. Like I totally agreed why they 1007 01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,560 went direction they did with his character. 1008 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:24,600 But just the first time watching it, I never predicted that he 1009 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:30,240 would be like I knew very early on he was a bad guy, like he was 1010 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,360 one of the people involved, but like I just didn't A, didn't 1011 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,720 predict he was the lesser of evils compared to other people. 1012 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:42,160 And B, like while it made sense in hindsight, like I never 1013 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:46,040 predicted that he would just go and kill himself. 1014 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,560 But because the, the surroundings of why he killed 1015 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:53,160 himself and like how he did it and what came afterwards made 1016 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,400 sense in hindsight. But I just, it was a, it's a 1017 01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,760 terms of just like I didn't predict it happening. 1018 01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:06,160 I think he was also, so he found himself so reprehensible and the 1019 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:11,400 fact that he could have been on trial in the very courtroom that 1020 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:17,800 he so respected, it would have broken him. 1021 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,560 And it would have been so embarrassing for him to have led 1022 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,320 the prosecution service as a chief prosecutor. 1023 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:29,120 And then it comes out, all this shit comes out and then he's on 1024 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:30,520 trial. I think it would have it. 1025 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:35,680 It would have ruined him internally and his whole life. 1026 01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,440 It would have imploded his whole life, so he knew like it just it 1027 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,200 couldn't go down like that. Right. 1028 01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,920 Yeah. And I think another thing that 1029 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,360 he did, it is like he revealed all this dirt that he had 1030 01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,880 recorded, the whistle blowing stuff and whistle blow. 1031 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,600 He knew if he didn't kill himself, somebody would. 1032 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:55,680 Oh, yeah. Like it would it? 1033 01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,400 He would never have surprised Sur Sur survived. 1034 01:01:58,440 --> 01:01:59,720 And it would have been his father-in-law. 1035 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,960 Yeah, it would have been something his father-in-law did 1036 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,920 and he never would have survived it. 1037 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:10,400 So he was like, I'd rather go out in my own way and do my own 1038 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,080 thing. Have the agency. 1039 01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:16,200 Over it versus knowing I'll be killed two months from now yeah, 1040 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:20,680 it yeah, is is. And that way he got all the 1041 01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:24,720 information out too, like he didn't have, he didn't have to 1042 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:31,160 be the Mr. Body with all this leverage because he like it was 1043 01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:34,600 all out and everybody, everybody's dirt was there and. 1044 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,160 Yeah, all the recordings and the paperwork and everything. 1045 01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,600 So his wife, I want to touch briefly on his wife because I 1046 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,120 saw her. I was like, where is she from? 1047 01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,480 Where's she from? I haven't watched Sky Castle 1048 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:49,280 yet. That is later in Season 5. 1049 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,560 Nice, nice. Just I have not. 1050 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:55,040 I have not watched that either. Oh OK, well anyway, first time 1051 01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,520 for everybody. So his wife, I watched her in 1052 01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,960 Snowdrop and when I realized that I had watched her in 1053 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,520 Snowdrop, I had like a full body chills. 1054 01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:12,680 So the the wife, I found her so cool because you couldn't tell 1055 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:16,760 if she was good or bad. You couldn't tell if she was out 1056 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:24,040 here trying to kill mistresses or if she was just suspicious of 1057 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,160 the people that could be his mistress. 1058 01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:28,920 You know what I'm saying? Right, right. 1059 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,840 So it turns out that she wasn't killing mistresses. 1060 01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,640 She was. She was just going to lay eyes 1061 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,120 on them. Yeah, she was just curious. 1062 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,480 She was just curious. Yeah, she has a bigger role in. 1063 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,760 Season 2, yeah, I saw. I saw that she was like a top 1064 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,400 building in Season 2. I was like, oh, cool. 1065 01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:54,160 So she also, I was like, we need to talk more about the 1066 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:58,320 conversation that the wife has with BAE Doona at that awkward 1067 01:03:58,320 --> 01:03:59,480 dinner. Yep. 1068 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:06,400 That she tries to host with the investigation crew because I was 1069 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,760 like, what is this? This is like I could write a 1070 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:13,680 thesis on this. Because the dynamic they were, 1071 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:19,200 it was like 2 lionesses in a room together and everyone else 1072 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:24,960 was just, they were like zebras. Like they had no, you know, they 1073 01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:29,160 had no say. They didn't matter because 1074 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:33,400 Beduna, like she is. So I don't know how to describe 1075 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,840 this conversation because I don't have the conversation in 1076 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:37,080 front of me. But you know which one I'm 1077 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:38,280 talking about, right? Yeah. 1078 01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:39,880 Oh, yeah. Like the one where the wife was 1079 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:44,800 like, oh, it's so weird to see a female cop. 1080 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:51,000 Like, it starts like that. And Beduna's like, yeah, like 1081 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,800 I'm a female cop, Like, what of it? 1082 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:58,200 And it turns into like this housewife versus working woman 1083 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:02,240 thing. It was a feminism versus 1084 01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:06,760 traditional, Yeah, feminism versus trad wife thing and 1085 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:11,560 classism thing all together. Right. 1086 01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:17,200 I think it would. I think in one way it was just 1087 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:21,640 due to the upbringing that the wife had and the fact that her 1088 01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,080 father probably catered to her every need. 1089 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:30,120 She somehow thought that she could host this dinner with the 1090 01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:37,760 team and either get information somehow from them or manipulate 1091 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:42,440 them into not pursuing the case or whatever. 1092 01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:47,720 And then the fact that Schumach and Beduna like do not accept 1093 01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:49,440 bribe like nobody in that room did. 1094 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:53,880 But like, it was, it was like it, it became very apparent very 1095 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:58,000 quickly that she was not going to get her way and she couldn't. 1096 01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:02,520 She needed to keep up this facade of a perfect housewife 1097 01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,200 while hosting this, even though you could tell she was like 1098 01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:11,480 fuming inside. So it, it, I think that that's 1099 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,840 how I interpreted that scene where like she was trying to 1100 01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,640 either get information or basically tell them to knock it 1101 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:20,160 off and leave this alone. And then real. 1102 01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:25,440 I quickly realized that was not going to happen and it's all of 1103 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,400 this. And I think the and I. 1104 01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,440 Think the other thing is because she went she literally was 1105 01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,680 talking directly to Beduna because she was the only other 1106 01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,720 female in the room so she felt I think she could. 1107 01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:38,840 She thought she would get something out of her. 1108 01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,720 Like she thought she could manipulate the only female. 1109 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:43,880 Right. That they would have some sort 1110 01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,880 of camaraderie or like, girl, you know what I'm saying? 1111 01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:49,520 Like they would connect. Yeah. 1112 01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,240 It didn't happen. It was like oil and water. 1113 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,520 Yeah. And the way that her fate, the 1114 01:06:55,520 --> 01:07:00,480 wife, the her face changes when I can't even remember what 1115 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:05,320 Beiduna said, but like her face like changes and falls and she 1116 01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,520 looks like she's about to kill Beiduna. 1117 01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:11,520 She like made a joke, like Beiduna made a joke. 1118 01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:15,040 It's some she said something and Beiduna being Beiduna like her 1119 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,040 character just was like and it wasn't even her character was 1120 01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,560 trying to get back at her. She just, like, made a joke 1121 01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:25,120 trying to, I think kind of like trying to like, like cut the 1122 01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,440 tense, like the tension in the room because everybody could 1123 01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,400 tell there was it. So she, like, made a joke trying 1124 01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:37,200 to, like, cut the tension. And then the wife didn't like it 1125 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:41,880 because it obviously made her look bad with an. 1126 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:43,400 It was insulting. Yeah. 1127 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:47,120 It was insulting, Yeah. Oh my God, I loved it. 1128 01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,280 Yeah, I was eating up that messy trauma. 1129 01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:54,120 This is so tense. Like they nobody wanted to be 1130 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:55,800 there, but they can't say no because it's the chief 1131 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,480 prosecutor's wife that, you know, it's all of this politics, 1132 01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:03,680 right? Like these relationship politics 1133 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:05,400 that are happening? Right. 1134 01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,520 And I think the prosecutor also invited them over because he 1135 01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:12,520 thought he could do the same thing, like get information and 1136 01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,000 either tell them to knock it off. 1137 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,040 And obviously that also didn't happen, so. 1138 01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:24,200 So let's move forward and talk about the weasel, which is Ijun 1139 01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,279 Hyuk. His character's name is Dong 1140 01:08:26,279 --> 01:08:28,040 Jay. Like that guy. 1141 01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:33,279 Like fuck that guy bro, like. He he's getting like a spin off. 1142 01:08:33,279 --> 01:08:35,479 So is he really? Yeah. 1143 01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,880 That's the that's the that's the show that's coming out this 1144 01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:38,399 year. He's. 1145 01:08:38,399 --> 01:08:41,960 Getting Oh my God. And no one really know if it's a 1146 01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:43,520 prequel or a sequel or something. 1147 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,479 I'm assuming it's like a like a spin off spin off. 1148 01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,479 But yeah, that's it's literally going to be his story. 1149 01:08:53,279 --> 01:08:57,960 Oh my God, this guy's the worst. The worst. 1150 01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:05,520 He is super easily. No, he choked out home girl 1151 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,960 Unsu. Like when he choked her almost 1152 01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:12,040 to the point of death. I was like, yeah, you're done. 1153 01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:17,240 We can't refer you anymore. You almost killed a woman in an 1154 01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:20,880 alley over actually nothing at all. 1155 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:24,240 She just said, I'm not going to let you get away with something 1156 01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,760 like she just goaded him in the street, which she was stupid for 1157 01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:31,520 that. But no sense at all. 1158 01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:39,479 That man, he had no sense. And he was, he was fully, fully 1159 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:42,080 taking bribes, taking everything. 1160 01:09:42,279 --> 01:09:44,319 They had all of this evidence on him. 1161 01:09:44,319 --> 01:09:47,000 And then he was like, why don't you just let me go and I'll help 1162 01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,359 you out? And then he becomes like this 1163 01:09:48,399 --> 01:09:51,920 quasi ally for the last half of the show. 1164 01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:56,120 Yep. Yep, I cannot believe they let 1165 01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:58,840 him back onto the prosecution. I mean, they couldn't really, 1166 01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,360 they didn't really have anything on him specifically. 1167 01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:05,160 He was a small fish. Like they they used him 1168 01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,760 basically and he knew he he was going to be used so he took that 1169 01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:12,080 to his advantage. Like they had bigger fish to 1170 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,560 fry. But him tampering with evidence 1171 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,040 with the phone? Yeah, of course. 1172 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,400 I mean, I'm not saying like he's a great character. 1173 01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:22,800 He's a very great character. Like he, he's not a good guy, 1174 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,080 but they they were like there's bigger fish to fry. 1175 01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,520 We need him to get evidence of other people. 1176 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:32,640 We need him to do this. Like he and he, that's the also 1177 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:36,440 his character though, like he's not loyal to anybody. 1178 01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:40,880 Like the minute either people are going after him or he is 1179 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:45,520 going to get fried, he switches sides and that's his character. 1180 01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:49,960 That's his characters through and through, especially in 1181 01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:52,160 season one. The. 1182 01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,160 But that's the fun of his. Character I hate it. 1183 01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,720 He's he is fun. He is fun but also a so 1184 01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:00,760 annoying. Yeah, so annoying. 1185 01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:04,040 Yeah, he's he's a lovable, annoying character. 1186 01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,200 I love him. He's so good. 1187 01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:11,680 Because you think he might have murdered someone like earlier on 1188 01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,240 the show, you think he might have murdered the girl, the 1189 01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:18,080 hooker. And then you're like, maybe not. 1190 01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:19,680 And then you're like, well, maybe he did. 1191 01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:23,640 Like you're flip flopping back and forth like then you find out 1192 01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,440 maybe he didn't murder her but why the fuck does he have his 1193 01:11:26,480 --> 01:11:27,880 her phone? Right. 1194 01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,680 And it's like this whole back and forth and this goes for 1195 01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:33,720 every single sketchy character in the show. 1196 01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:37,880 Like you're unsure of every single person besides the lead 2 1197 01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,960 characters. This is the, this is how it goes 1198 01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:41,880 for the whole show. You're like. 1199 01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,880 Well, even though we even there was a time where you were like 1200 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:48,520 Ishimuk actually a good guy though like that's the beauty of 1201 01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:53,520 this show too. Like because he is so reserved 1202 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:57,800 and so closed off you for a couple episodes even him is 1203 01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,680 looking a little sketchy until everything is revealed. 1204 01:12:01,440 --> 01:12:03,600 Craziness Don Jay is. Craziness. 1205 01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,160 So good. Don Jay. 1206 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:09,640 So when he choked out Unsu, that's when I was like, you're 1207 01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:13,240 done, you're done. And then he was like, Oh my God, 1208 01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:14,240 is she alive? Is she alive? 1209 01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,880 Oh, thank God she's alive. I'm like fuck out of here, bro. 1210 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,720 Like you suck. What a punk. 1211 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,160 OK, then Unsu, who's played by Sheena son. 1212 01:12:24,480 --> 01:12:29,680 I found her so annoying as well because she just didn't have 1213 01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,080 like street smarts. She didn't. 1214 01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:36,440 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Didn't I see? 1215 01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:38,760 Smarts. Yeah, I also found her quite 1216 01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:40,880 annoying in in the first watch like. 1217 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,360 And she was just like banging her head against the wall and 1218 01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:49,080 not really realizing, oh, I have a concussion, right? 1219 01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,480 Or she was like. Yeah, and then like she would 1220 01:12:51,480 --> 01:12:54,960 run off and like, follow people without telling anybody. 1221 01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,440 Just so reckless. You knew it was coming. 1222 01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,120 You knew it was coming with her. Yeah. 1223 01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,040 So when they were like, it was a possibility. 1224 01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:03,280 At the end of the show, we get a second body. 1225 01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:05,440 Finally, we have a second body. Yeah. 1226 01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:10,400 And it's in the hooker's house, so it's either the hooker who 1227 01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,120 went missing at the hospital or it's someone else. 1228 01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:16,560 And when they're not saying who it is, I'm like, it's in Sue, 1229 01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:19,920 it's unsu. It's got to be unsu. 1230 01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:24,360 And lo and behold, they like uncover the the blanket that 1231 01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:28,160 they have they put on her and 1st there she is, she's dead. 1232 01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:32,960 Yeah, yeah. Just Bluetooth close to the sun 1233 01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,560 there. Just not that she deserved it. 1234 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:41,920 I'm saying like she. Well, I mean, like I think you, 1235 01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,320 you knew. You knew the minute you saw the 1236 01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:45,880 zero. She saw the 07. 1237 01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,080 She was daughter. Marked her death. 1238 01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:53,160 You knew. She saw the text like how did 1239 01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:54,680 you? How did you feel about that 1240 01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,360 reveal? Oh, that was the worst one to 1241 01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,000 me. That was the. 1242 01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:00,560 That was the one that I sent you, I think. 1243 01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:04,280 I I was waiting for that. Voice memo I was like screaming 1244 01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:08,760 in the voice memo because the the end of the episode like that 1245 01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:15,600 that he so this is we're talking about say 17-O looney from 1246 01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:22,440 prison playbook EQ hyung, that guy seven O he you thought he 1247 01:14:22,440 --> 01:14:24,360 was an ally. You thought he was just kind of 1248 01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:30,320 like a straight laced internal affairs dude that got taken on 1249 01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,640 great chemistry with everybody on the on the show, on the 1250 01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:38,920 investigation team and a really good investigator and he was 1251 01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:44,040 very supportive, very helpful. Girl, when that juice or 1252 01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:47,400 whatever fell on his shirt and it turns see through and you 1253 01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,560 could see the tattoo, I was like, Oh my God, is that a 70? 1254 01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:55,160 Is that A70 on this man's body? And sure enough, it looks like 1255 01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,040 it's not a 70, but it looks like A70. 1256 01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:03,760 Yeah, I start hyperventilating. I was like, Oh my gosh, Is he 1257 01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:06,200 the killer? Has he been the killer the whole 1258 01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:07,440 time? Right. 1259 01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,360 The whole the whole time. Yep. 1260 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,920 The whole time he's right there it embedded. 1261 01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:19,920 Embedded, so there was no rebounding from the. 1262 01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:26,280 I couldn't handle it. That was. 1263 01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,200 Well, then you got that wonderful scene in the airport, 1264 01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:32,640 which that was the scene when I that was the that was like, I 1265 01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:35,760 need to put this scene on my social media, but I can't do it 1266 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:40,320 yet because she had an. Airport scene is amazing. 1267 01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,400 It is astonishing. Like him. 1268 01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:46,080 Like yeah, over Beiduna. One of my favorite scenes in 1269 01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:49,880 season one. It is such it should go down as 1270 01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:53,080 like in the in the pantheon of chase scenes in K drone like 1271 01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:59,680 that is a really good chase scene and he's plowing through 1272 01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,240 police officers like nothing. Right. 1273 01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:06,120 Yeah. Like they're made of cardboard. 1274 01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:09,200 Yeah. Yeah. 1275 01:16:09,440 --> 01:16:11,400 Like he's truly gifted. That man is true. 1276 01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:16,960 That's truly gifted criminal. So I enjoyed the heck out of 1277 01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:20,200 that reveal. I was super entertained. 1278 01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:23,920 And yeah, it spirals out of control because then after they 1279 01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:27,960 figure out he's the killer. Is he the killer of Mr. Body 1280 01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:32,320 alone? Is he the killer of also Unsu? 1281 01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:36,080 Did he attempt to kill the hooker as well? 1282 01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,240 Like what to? What's the? 1283 01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:45,840 Extent of this, right, Yeah. Yeah, so it's it's crazy. 1284 01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,440 It kind of goes pretty fast from there. 1285 01:16:48,440 --> 01:16:50,560 Once they catch him, it goes pretty fast from there. 1286 01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:54,760 At the end of the show right now, my only guess, and I'll 1287 01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:58,760 tell you this was straight wrong, was that Kyung Wan, who 1288 01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:02,280 is Mr. Body's son? I thought he was the killer. 1289 01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:08,680 I thought that he killed his dad and that didn't happen at all. 1290 01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:14,720 I especially thought he was suspicious because he was 1291 01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,880 running from police and shit and he was deleting photos of the 1292 01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:23,240 hooker from his phone. Right, right, because he had a 1293 01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:27,880 crush on her in high school. And then his dad, like, hired 1294 01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:31,840 her to be this underage hooker. It was nuts. 1295 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:35,240 It was nuts. Oh my God, Bedlam. 1296 01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:40,640 So he had motive for killing his dad and then he ended up not 1297 01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:47,160 right not killing his dad. Yeah, but this came up recently 1298 01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,800 and I can't remember. Oh reset when we did our drama 1299 01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:54,800 trio reset review and we were spoilers for reset spoilers for 1300 01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:59,560 reset that see drama the. I'm going to try and make this 1301 01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,880 as non spoiler as possible, but at the end of that show we 1302 01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:06,360 figure out who is the assailant. Right. 1303 01:18:07,480 --> 01:18:15,520 The bomber on the bus and we were like, look, it, it kind of 1304 01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,840 gives because of the reason for why they were doing that. 1305 01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:25,880 It kind of gave them a license. Anybody who was in that same 1306 01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:29,680 situation, a license to kill, right? 1307 01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:34,440 Because because of that crazy sad back story and the situation 1308 01:18:34,440 --> 01:18:41,800 that they were in and in this very similar case for say 170, 1309 01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:47,800 he lost his son in this fiery bus crash. 1310 01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:52,440 And it was very, it was completely heartbreaking to hear 1311 01:18:52,440 --> 01:18:54,840 the story coming from him when he was being interrogated by 1312 01:18:54,840 --> 01:19:00,600 Shiwan and he was saying, like, I looked into the situation and 1313 01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,160 it was, you know, basically a big corruption case, big cover 1314 01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:06,320 up. And my son died for nothing. 1315 01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:08,920 Like unnecessarily like it was, it was not an accident. 1316 01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,880 It was, it was negligence. Yes, yes. 1317 01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:21,600 And what Baiduna's character ended up saying to him was that 1318 01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:29,120 anybody who's lost a child has a can do what you did then, like 1319 01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:32,280 they have a license to anybody. There's so many people who have 1320 01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:38,040 gone through terrible, wrongful situations and does that mean 1321 01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,640 they can start killing people? Right. 1322 01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:45,840 And the answer is overwhelmingly, profoundly no, 1323 01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:50,080 No, yes. It's no like this. 1324 01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,520 This level of vigilante justice, like, where does it end? 1325 01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:54,640 It's a slippery slope. Exactly. 1326 01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:59,360 Yeah, so that's what she was. Saying in his, in his case, it 1327 01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,440 wasn't one person too. It's like, Oh yeah, it's not 1328 01:20:02,440 --> 01:20:06,520 like, yeah, it's not like he just like went and killed the 1329 01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:09,920 driver. He like killed the people who 1330 01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:14,840 didn't fix the bus. He killed the person who hid the 1331 01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,040 the people who didn't fix the bus. 1332 01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:21,600 Like it was like a whole thing. Yeah, yeah. 1333 01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:26,920 So I found that really important. 1334 01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:28,040 Like that? She said That, yeah. 1335 01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:32,120 Yeah, yeah. I don't. 1336 01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:34,120 I was going to say I don't have anything in my notes. 1337 01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:38,960 Look, I have no notes but. So what did you think in terms 1338 01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:44,000 of like, what did you think of BAE Doona and Shimuk's, like, 1339 01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:48,400 first encounter together? Because they had, well, they 1340 01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,520 technically two encounters. I'll say one is like when 1341 01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:55,680 they're chasing after the suspect and like, they both meet 1342 01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:57,720 each other and they both are like, what the hell are you 1343 01:20:57,720 --> 01:20:59,160 doing? Like you're a prosecutor. 1344 01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:00,920 I'm a cop. Like, we're chasing the same 1345 01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:01,720 guy. What the heck? 1346 01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,520 And like they go through all the alleys and everything. 1347 01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:08,920 And then Beduna like, is up on that second floor, whatever. 1348 01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,200 The guy like, jumps down and then she looks there. 1349 01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,080 So like, what did you think of that meeting? 1350 01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:16,480 And then the other meeting was like, when they're in the guy's 1351 01:21:16,480 --> 01:21:20,520 house, like the, the, the Mr. Body's house and she comes 1352 01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:24,600 around the corner and she looks like this there was a night like 1353 01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:28,280 in his own world, like trying to figure out scenarios of how this 1354 01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:31,760 dude could get killed. Like what did you think of 1355 01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,880 those? Two scenes I like the meet cue 1356 01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:41,840 of them chasing the same suspect and then he takes the suspect 1357 01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,360 and like, leaves her high and dry and all of her colleagues 1358 01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,880 are like, why the hell did you let the prosecutor take the 1359 01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:48,680 perp? Like, that is bizarre. 1360 01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:53,200 You, Jim, you both chased him. And then, yeah, that moment that 1361 01:21:53,200 --> 01:22:01,800 she sees him like whipping around this kitchen knife, this 1362 01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:06,520 giant kitchen knife, trying to recreate the scene and figure 1363 01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:13,200 out what what possibly happened in the amount of time that the 1364 01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:18,920 that the perp had to do it to make to do the murder is. 1365 01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:22,720 I thought that was hysterical. And I know it's not meant to be 1366 01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:24,120 hysterical. You're supposed to be surprised. 1367 01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:27,200 You're supposed to be like, oh, no, she's seeing him like figure 1368 01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,040 it out. And there's no context for her. 1369 01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,560 And he's not going to explain anything because he doesn't give 1370 01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:35,640 a shit and he doesn't realize that he looks like a lunatic 1371 01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,240 and. And that like speaks to his 1372 01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:42,160 character in general. Like he does that a lot in like 1373 01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,240 where it's like he imagines himself. 1374 01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:46,440 Like this is a trope in crime dramas. 1375 01:22:46,440 --> 01:22:49,480 You have these characters that kind of imagine himself as the 1376 01:22:49,480 --> 01:22:52,960 criminal. He does that a lot in in both 1377 01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,560 seasons. So it's like you ran like just 1378 01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:59,600 you imagine him like like just being in a room with him and 1379 01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,800 he's just standing there imagining fix the entire time. 1380 01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,000 Oh my God. Yeah. 1381 01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,880 Also, I enjoyed the red herring of like this. 1382 01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,440 What was it? I think it was Ausb drive with 1383 01:23:15,480 --> 01:23:21,320 evidence on it of tax evasion of the chaebol family that the 1384 01:23:21,480 --> 01:23:25,840 ousted. I don't know what what was he 1385 01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:32,320 like because this was unsu. 'S dad Yeah, he was the he was 1386 01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:35,560 the previous chief prosecutor. Was he OK? 1387 01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:38,080 Yeah. So the previous chief 1388 01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:43,040 prosecutor, that old man, he had all this evidence and he was 1389 01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:47,320 hiding it for three years and then Unsu got murdered. 1390 01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:50,760 And they thought it was because she had this evidence on her. 1391 01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,880 She like specifically went to get this USB drive and bring it 1392 01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:58,440 to Chimok to help the case and she gets slaughtered. 1393 01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:03,160 I love the red herring that this was kind of like building up and 1394 01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:05,280 we were wondering what's going to happen to this USB drive? 1395 01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:06,960 When is Shima going to get his hands on it? 1396 01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,520 He was requesting this evidence for the longest time from the 1397 01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:12,360 from the old man and he wasn't giving it up. 1398 01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:16,320 And then finally she gets murdered and you think, Oh no, 1399 01:24:16,480 --> 01:24:20,360 the bad guys have the evidence. They have this USB drive. 1400 01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:23,560 Finally they got their hands on it and it didn't even matter. 1401 01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:26,040 They were like, get rid of all her shit. 1402 01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:29,040 Like it doesn't even factor in the. 1403 01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:33,160 Overall story, this tax evasion evidence, right, right. 1404 01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:35,440 It's so I thought that was some of the. 1405 01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:38,640 I love that red herring. Well then even with her 1406 01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,040 character because you have these scenes throughout where it's 1407 01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:44,960 like like you don't even know if she's a good person. 1408 01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:49,640 Oh yeah, the longest time, like there was that like coffee scene 1409 01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:53,600 where he like goes and like sees like the footage talking to the 1410 01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:57,640 guy, talking to the Mr. Body and she's the one talking to him. 1411 01:24:57,880 --> 01:24:59,320 She was the last person to see him alive. 1412 01:24:59,480 --> 01:25:02,960 So you're like, what the heck? Yeah, you're like, Oh my God. 1413 01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,560 Did she have her boyfriend or ex-boyfriend murder him? 1414 01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:06,840 Right. Exactly. 1415 01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,040 Yeah, yeah. It was good. 1416 01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:13,480 I liked it. Again, everyone is morally Gray. 1417 01:25:13,480 --> 01:25:17,720 No one is safe from being suspicious. 1418 01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:20,320 And I liked it. I liked it a lot. 1419 01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:23,040 I thought it ended on a on a interesting note. 1420 01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,320 You thought he was going to America to tour every single 1421 01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:26,760 state? I was like, that sounds like 1422 01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:30,720 torture. They said he was going to every 1423 01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:34,200 single. What was it like? 1424 01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:37,040 State Department. State. 1425 01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:40,960 Yeah, it was like prosecution department when they said he was 1426 01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,520 going to all 50. I was like, Oh my God. 1427 01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:46,440 That's a lot. That's a lot. 1428 01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:51,280 Somebody stop him. Yeah, I just love the fact that 1429 01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:57,360 like going back to like, Shimok and like Beiduna's relationship, 1430 01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:58,520 like. Yeah, yeah. 1431 01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:02,040 I love that she kind of like, once they got over the fact 1432 01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:05,800 that, like love, like the realizing they have to work 1433 01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:11,880 together, she kind of just like pops up in randomly, like, like 1434 01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,400 in his office, for example. He'll like walk in and she's 1435 01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:17,640 like sleeping on the chair. Yeah, because she's been 1436 01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:18,080 waiting. For. 1437 01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,600 But then he lets her keep. Sleeping exactly. 1438 01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:21,360 Yeah. Like. 1439 01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,720 She's tired. It's like those moments where 1440 01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:30,360 it's like, it's just, it's funny how like going back to the 1441 01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:36,680 Sherlock Holmes Watson thing, like it was like he didn't say 1442 01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:38,960 anything. He didn't like request that her 1443 01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:42,960 like to be in his life or anything, but she kind of was 1444 01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:47,240 just like, I'm going to barge in on your life and kind of just be 1445 01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:50,640 there all the time. Yeah. 1446 01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:55,400 And like, what did you think of that whole? 1447 01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:00,600 Well, two things. So there was like the the the 1448 01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:05,320 suit in his head in his house. Like, what did you think of that 1449 01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:08,800 whole scene? Like, like, 'cause like what I 1450 01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:11,480 liked about this is like we, we touched on it was like found 1451 01:27:11,480 --> 01:27:15,760 family. It was like the, it started with 1452 01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:20,880 Beijuna and then it brought into her other cop buddy and then it 1453 01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,200 was unsu. And then it was like the 1454 01:27:23,480 --> 01:27:31,720 assistants and then it was 07 and then it was the, the, the 1455 01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:33,840 other guy. What's, what's his other guy 1456 01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:34,440 name? Yeah. 1457 01:27:34,440 --> 01:27:36,000 So it was like a bunch of them, right? 1458 01:27:36,440 --> 01:27:40,440 So like they he gets he. The HR specialist. 1459 01:27:40,440 --> 01:27:46,120 Yeah, he, he walks in on this suit and he calls her very 1460 01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:48,720 deadpan. Is like, Oh yeah, you, you 1461 01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:51,760 should come over here. OK, so the suit that we're the 1462 01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:55,320 suit that we're talking about is that someone illegally entered 1463 01:27:55,320 --> 01:28:00,080 his house while he wasn't there and literally chopped up a a 1464 01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:05,120 suit of his and hung it up by a noose. 1465 01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:07,880 Yeah. And like, and when when the 1466 01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:10,480 lights were off, you thought it was a person like. 1467 01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,640 Yeah, like, and then he's burning on the lights and you 1468 01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:15,960 realize it was a suit, but it looked like an hanging body. 1469 01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:19,560 Yeah. So like he calls up Beiduna and 1470 01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:20,840 Beiduna's like. What? 1471 01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:25,560 And like runs over, but not only her, like everybody runs over to 1472 01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:26,360 his. House, it's her. 1473 01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:29,720 It's her and the other cop, the one that gave the evidence to 1474 01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:33,440 the the police chief. Yeah, yeah. 1475 01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:38,040 So also the police chief, kind of like the first watch. 1476 01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:39,960 I was annoyed by the police chief a lot. 1477 01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:46,560 Yeah, he's wrong anyway. Well, not, not, not not that 1478 01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:48,640 police chief, not the one that went on trial. 1479 01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:50,560 The. One, the other one, the boss. 1480 01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:51,800 I know exactly who you're talking about. 1481 01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:55,560 Yeah, he's he never. Yeah, we never got a resolution 1482 01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:57,000 for him. No, no. 1483 01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:58,640 And you don't really. He's in Season 2. 1484 01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:01,880 Like he's a little more in Season 2, but like in Season 2, 1485 01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:07,120 it's the same thing, kind of. We have squinty eyes over here 1486 01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:10,720 'cause we're just like. But I just love the fact like 1487 01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:14,400 there's those moments that you like live for is like they all 1488 01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:16,480 come racing over and you're like, are you OK? 1489 01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:18,480 Are you OK? He's like, I'm fine. 1490 01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,640 And then they look at it and they're like, it's much, much 1491 01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:23,600 worse than you said over the phone. 1492 01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:27,720 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like, are you OK staying here? 1493 01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:29,800 He's like, yeah, I'm totally OK staying here. 1494 01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:31,800 And they're like, Are you sure about that? 1495 01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:35,240 What the hell? Yeah. 1496 01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:38,280 And then the other thing is like, what did you think about 1497 01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:43,600 his whole head situation? I thought this was a convenient 1498 01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:47,160 thing that they kept pushing was every time he was in a stressful 1499 01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:49,560 situation he would get these. It was like tinnitus or 1500 01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:54,400 something and ringing loud ringing in his ears or 1501 01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:56,160 something. Yeah. 1502 01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:59,680 I thought they would bring it up more often and it would come 1503 01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:05,320 into play in situations, high fake situations, but it really 1504 01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:06,160 didn't. It would. 1505 01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:11,280 It came into play like 3-4 times in the whole show and it started 1506 01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:13,800 the show. Because he stops traffic because 1507 01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:17,680 he has one of these episodes and you see him kind of come to and 1508 01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:23,520 he's backed up an entire bridge because he's pulled over, which 1509 01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:26,960 he could have just gone off the bridge entirely, like having one 1510 01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:30,360 of these episodes, but he had the wherewithal to stop and park 1511 01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:32,040 the car in the middle of the street. 1512 01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:36,480 And then he wakes up and just keeps on going towards Mr. 1513 01:30:36,480 --> 01:30:39,160 Body's house, which is when all hell breaks loose. 1514 01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:45,560 I, I don't know, I, I had, I think they could have utilized 1515 01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:49,240 it more, but when it came in, you were like, oh, right. 1516 01:30:49,480 --> 01:30:52,880 He has this recurring thing. Yeah, yeah. 1517 01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:55,240 And that was one of the things I wish they had. 1518 01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:58,960 Like, it was heartbreaking to see eBay Dunas character find 1519 01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:04,520 out, like, what was going on. Yeah, because even I I still 1520 01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:07,560 remember the line where because it was like right after Unsu, 1521 01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:10,640 they found Unsu when he had the big episode. 1522 01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:13,960 And he goes to the he goes to the autopsy. 1523 01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:17,040 Yeah, which they were. Everyone was like, why are you 1524 01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:18,800 serious? You're going to go to the 1525 01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:22,240 autopsy of Unsu. And he was like, yeah, I'm going 1526 01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:25,120 to do it. And right after the autopsy, he 1527 01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:26,320 collapses. Right. 1528 01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:29,120 Yeah. And so like the line that she 1529 01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:36,360 comes in is like he she sees him on the bed and she's like, can 1530 01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:39,080 we stop seeing people in this way? 1531 01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:42,600 Or like, can we like this is too much or something like that? 1532 01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:50,680 Like I I interpreted that as like her saying what Seemukh 1533 01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:55,640 wanted to say like 'cause we have fully know like with with 1534 01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:59,840 his reaction to Unsu like that was like like his. 1535 01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:02,960 Body's reaction. Yeah, so like the whole point of 1536 01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:08,360 the especially like the really bad episode he had was like he 1537 01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:14,040 could not express how guilty and how much regret he had and how 1538 01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:19,400 much like feelings he had towards unsu and the death he he 1539 01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:23,360 saw it as it was his fault like fully and he couldn't express 1540 01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:29,320 that whatsoever. So that in that caused his 1541 01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:34,000 entire episode to him like going like falling down in the hallway 1542 01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:37,240 and everything because that was the culmination of all of these 1543 01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:41,320 emotions being built up for the last 12 hours to 24 hours or 1544 01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:45,160 whatever. But yeah, like her character 1545 01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:50,400 walking in and basically saying what he wanted to say in a way 1546 01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:57,320 and having that feelings of expression that he wanted to do 1547 01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:00,000 and then. I didn't take it that way. 1548 01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:02,440 I thought it was it was sort of her sentiment. 1549 01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:03,880 Well, it. Was for the. 1550 01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:06,120 Whole situation plus things she look like. 1551 01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:09,920 That yeah, it was, but I think, I mean I interpreted it was, I 1552 01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,760 mean I interpreted it was her, but also I interpreted it as 1553 01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:16,640 like she was translating him. As well. 1554 01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:18,800 I like that. I like that double meaning. 1555 01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:21,920 And then I also, one of my favorite scenes in the entire 1556 01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:26,160 show is the funeral scene where he explodes. 1557 01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:28,520 Bro. Because thanks for bringing me 1558 01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:31,760 one of the best acting scenes I've ever seen him do. 1559 01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:33,040 Because it's. Just Oh my God. 1560 01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:34,760 You don't expect it. Yeah. 1561 01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:37,800 Start screaming, starts getting really angry. 1562 01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:40,720 You don't expect it. Like, obviously no one expected 1563 01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:42,600 it because he's never done that before. 1564 01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:48,680 But it's just like you, you and like, at that point, the chief 1565 01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:52,520 prosecutor, like the the guy who committed suicide at the end of 1566 01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:56,920 the show, like knows about his condition and knows like what 1567 01:33:56,920 --> 01:34:01,240 led to his condition. So like, you kind of could tell 1568 01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:03,960 he was a little scared in that scene too. 1569 01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:08,840 He like he knew what this. Dude could like did when he did 1570 01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:11,600 get angry before he had the filter of the surgery. 1571 01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:16,880 So if people don't understand, like, so Shumuk's character, the 1572 01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:21,960 reason why he got the surgery to basically got a lumbotomy in a 1573 01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:27,440 way, is because he had some violent outbursts, like really 1574 01:34:27,440 --> 01:34:30,480 violent outbursts when he was a child and in school. 1575 01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:36,080 And they just couldn't do anything to quell those 1576 01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:38,320 emotions. And he couldn't express them 1577 01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:42,160 very well and couldn't. He was just like, yeah, he 1578 01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:44,360 couldn't control them. So they basically gave him a 1579 01:34:44,480 --> 01:34:47,760 lumbotomy. They removed parts of his 1580 01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:50,840 frontal temporal lobe, which is where your personality is. 1581 01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:55,200 Right. It's who you are, and that is 1582 01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:58,680 how he turned into who he is today. 1583 01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:01,680 Yeah. And so there they explained it 1584 01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:06,640 in the show where there are times where because he cannot 1585 01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:10,320 process that anymore, Like, and when he was a child, he was over 1586 01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:12,640 processing stuff and couldn't control them. 1587 01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:15,840 But now it's the other way around where like he still has 1588 01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:18,320 those emotions. They're just very, very, very 1589 01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:22,920 deep within him and his body cannot process those emotions. 1590 01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:28,200 And when he becomes too stressed or has too many emotions of 1591 01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:32,200 these built up and his brain cannot comprehend them and can't 1592 01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:37,240 find a reasonable way to quell them and to make him understand, 1593 01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:43,680 he has these episodes. And so in the funeral scene, I 1594 01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:49,120 think it was a combination of him again feeling regret himself 1595 01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:53,280 and being guilty himself. But also getting really angry 1596 01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:56,600 that like basically everybody who led to her death because he 1597 01:35:56,600 --> 01:36:01,120 fully knows there's somebody in the room that did kill her, kind 1598 01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:03,280 of just like talking business in the funeral. 1599 01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:06,040 Like they were very disrespectful at this funeral. 1600 01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:10,120 And he got angry because no one was saying anything. 1601 01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:12,480 And he finally just was like, are you kidding me? 1602 01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:16,600 So I love that scene. It was one of my favorite. 1603 01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:19,280 Scenes. Well, the father, her dad, the 1604 01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:25,680 OG chief prosecutor started going for the Blue House. 1605 01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:28,440 Chief prosecutor Changjun, who showed up? 1606 01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:33,880 Which bad form to show up when it's so sketchy your involvement 1607 01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:35,880 in this whole thing? They do it all the time though. 1608 01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:36,520 Gripe. Shows. 1609 01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:39,400 They do it all the. Time, I'm sure, yeah. 1610 01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:41,640 And I, yeah. So he shows up to the well. 1611 01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:45,400 Even the father-in-law was there, which I always never was. 1612 01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:51,120 Like, I was like, why? Like there's no reason for the 1613 01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:53,800 father-in-law to be there. Like he didn't know unsu. 1614 01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:54,840 He didn't. Yeah. 1615 01:36:55,480 --> 01:37:02,160 So UNSU's dad goes feral on his ass and it's like you killed my 1616 01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:05,000 daughter how can you be here? And he like takes his cane and 1617 01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:08,960 like tries to hit him and it hits Dongje, which thank God it 1618 01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:10,680 hits Dongje like he needs to be hit. 1619 01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:17,280 And then like fuck that dude. And and that's when because all 1620 01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:21,120 it it it's very I think he got over stimulated also like she 1621 01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:23,920 milk in this situation. And he goes alright. 1622 01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:26,240 Like then he starts screaming at everybody. 1623 01:37:26,480 --> 01:37:29,120 Yeah. And the dad, and he says like, 1624 01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:31,600 why didn't you do anything when you had the chance, right? 1625 01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:35,600 Yeah. And I think did you? 1626 01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:37,640 Did you? Think you were hiding the truth 1627 01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:39,200 for your family? Because look what? 1628 01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:41,560 Look what's happened. Yeah, and that speaks to Shima's 1629 01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:44,880 character because again, we said he's very blunt about anything. 1630 01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:47,080 Like he does no filter whatsoever. 1631 01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:51,520 To blame her father for her death at her funeral, Yeah, 1632 01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:53,440 like. That's yeah, that's just 1633 01:37:53,440 --> 01:37:56,720 something you don't do. And again, I think that scene 1634 01:37:56,800 --> 01:38:01,200 also was him realizing it was also his fault. 1635 01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:04,400 Like he has always, I mean, you'll see this in season 2. 1636 01:38:04,480 --> 01:38:08,000 It's a it's a ongoing thing. He'll bring up unsu in season 2 1637 01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:12,080 as well, where it's like you fully know he regrets what he 1638 01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:16,040 did with this character. Like, and The thing is with this 1639 01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:19,840 character is like she, even though we did find her annoying 1640 01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:22,360 a little bit like she tried to work with him. 1641 01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:27,920 He, she tried to help him out and yeah, and she had her own 1642 01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:30,000 agenda and own motives to do that too. 1643 01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:32,920 But he also was like and. He didn't trust that he didn't. 1644 01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:36,720 Trust she had an agenda and he also was trying to protect her 1645 01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:39,040 at the same time. It wasn't all just like he 1646 01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:41,200 didn't trust her. He also was like, if you get 1647 01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:45,160 involved in this, something's going to happen and I don't want 1648 01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:50,080 you to have that. But on the other hand, in 1649 01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:54,200 hindsight, you kind of see that he thought he should have 1650 01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:58,640 involved her because at least she would have been more safe. 1651 01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:01,320 Like, in hindsight, I think he realized she would have been 1652 01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:02,680 more safe. Yeah. 1653 01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:04,440 She wouldn't have been alone. Exactly. 1654 01:39:04,440 --> 01:39:08,360 So the funeral scene I think was also him kind of yelling at 1655 01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:14,280 himself and realizing that all these people in the room led to 1656 01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:17,320 her death. But he also could not be 1657 01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:21,480 completely absolved of the reason why he was dead. 1658 01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:24,640 It's heavy. It's heavy, yeah. 1659 01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:26,360 And I love that scene. I'm glad you brought it up. 1660 01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:28,200 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 1661 01:39:28,440 --> 01:39:30,280 Well, did you have anything else in your notes? 1662 01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:37,120 Anything at all. So you have a question that in 1663 01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:45,040 here that I I've always loved the OS TS for this drama and 1664 01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:47,520 season 2. Like I I woke up this morning 1665 01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:49,720 because I finished season 2 like two days ago. 1666 01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:52,000 I still have season 2 OST in my head. 1667 01:39:53,440 --> 01:39:59,080 I absolutely love the music of this like not even the OS TS. 1668 01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:01,880 I love the background instrumental of this like 1669 01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:06,280 whenever there's like when there's like something revealed 1670 01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:10,880 or like at the at the. Very the viol. 1671 01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:14,640 Like the violins, like it's like my head, like the drums come. 1672 01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:20,520 In Yeah, I hear it right now. It's good love that I like. 1673 01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:23,600 It's very one of my. Favorite, favorite background 1674 01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:27,440 musics of all time? Yeah, I love it. 1675 01:40:27,440 --> 01:40:30,480 Yeah, it's very good. Great, Great point. 1676 01:40:31,440 --> 01:40:33,200 It's not even OSC, it's just score. 1677 01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:34,600 It's score. Yeah, it's a score. 1678 01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:37,480 It's a memorable score. It's like one of those things 1679 01:40:37,480 --> 01:40:39,600 where it's like the OS TS. I hear it. 1680 01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:42,560 I'll be like, Oh my God. Exactly, exactly and season 2 1681 01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:45,600 kept the same thing like you'll you'll see that it's the same 1682 01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:48,800 like they have different OS TS, but it's the same like score 1683 01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:53,200 played differently, like you know, it's it's the same 1684 01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:58,720 concept, like they have the same like violins and drums and 1685 01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:01,560 everything, but it's differently sounded in a way, but it's 1686 01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:03,680 familiar. OK. 1687 01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:08,040 But yeah, I absolutely love the instrumental backgrounds of 1688 01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:09,760 this. I mean I like the OS TS too, but 1689 01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:10,640 like. Nice. 1690 01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:13,800 Hands on one of my favorite scores in a drama ever. 1691 01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:18,400 I love that. I'll say the last thing that I 1692 01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:24,280 have on my mind is he shows Shemukh, shows the wife, the 1693 01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:28,960 chief prosecutor's widow, the suicide note that he leaves 1694 01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:31,960 behind for her. It's it's with him because he 1695 01:41:31,960 --> 01:41:34,160 left it to for Shima to give to her right. 1696 01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:38,640 And she reads it because she comes in so hot, like guns 1697 01:41:38,640 --> 01:41:40,280 blazing. She goes, I'm going to take you 1698 01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:41,800 down. There's not going to be anything 1699 01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:43,360 left. Like she talks such a big game. 1700 01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:45,520 And then he doesn't say shit to her. 1701 01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:47,280 He just goes and gives her the note. 1702 01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:51,240 He gives her the letter. She reads it and she doesn't say 1703 01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:53,600 anything. She just gets up and leaves. 1704 01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:59,600 Yes check bounce so appropriate she's just like you know what my 1705 01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:02,120 husband had his head on straight as a matter of fact, and you 1706 01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:05,400 know what I think I'm a little bit embarrassed. 1707 01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:08,160 I'm going to leave because there's nothing to there's 1708 01:42:08,160 --> 01:42:11,800 nothing to take down here. This is exactly what he wanted. 1709 01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:15,240 Was this whole. Investigation. 1710 01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:19,480 Well, and the fact is like she realized because I mean, one of 1711 01:42:19,480 --> 01:42:21,880 the reasons why she came in hot is because she fully blamed 1712 01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:25,160 Shivoke for her husband's death. That's what she said, that you 1713 01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:28,240 killed him. And in season 2, she still 1714 01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:31,200 thinks this a little bit, but like, there's things said to her 1715 01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:33,600 in season 2 that kind of writes her even more. 1716 01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:39,440 But like, I think obviously reading that suicide note, she 1717 01:42:39,440 --> 01:42:42,640 knows like, because in the suicide note he's like, Shumuk 1718 01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:44,640 is the only person I trusted, like. 1719 01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:49,880 And I think that also kind of irked her a little because he 1720 01:42:49,880 --> 01:42:51,320 didn't realize. Yeah, he. 1721 01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:54,000 She realized because he. Could have left all that stuff. 1722 01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:56,160 With her exactly. But he didn't. 1723 01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:59,840 Yeah, yeah. Which like says a lot about 1724 01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:05,480 their relationship and his relationship with him and things 1725 01:43:05,480 --> 01:43:08,640 like that, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's bad. 1726 01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:11,960 It was toxic. It was toxic. 1727 01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:13,280 He might have loved it, but it was toxic. 1728 01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:17,080 Anyway, I think that's it. Like, did you have anything else 1729 01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:18,720 you wanted to say before we get out of here? 1730 01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:22,040 I don't think so. Oh my God, well this was 1731 01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:24,320 wonderful. As you can see, we had a 1732 01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:28,440 fantastic time watching Stranger season one and we will likely, 1733 01:43:28,440 --> 01:43:31,960 very likely be back for Stranger season 2 to talk that through. 1734 01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:36,040 Caitlin's already done the hard work and rewatched season 2. 1735 01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:43,840 I have about 15 1/2 episodes to watch before I'm done, but it'll 1736 01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:45,920 it'll happen. It'll happen this year for sure. 1737 01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:48,160 We would love to hear from you guys. 1738 01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:50,600 If you have watched Stranger and you want to hear more from us, 1739 01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:52,880 talk to me. But obviously talk to Caitlin 1740 01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:54,000 because Caitlin's watched it twice. 1741 01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:56,440 Now three times. Three times. 1742 01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:57,800 Oh my. God 'cause I re I re. 1743 01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:00,960 I rewatched this when season two came out so this was my third 1744 01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:05,160 time rewatching season. 1/3 time rewatching season one. 1745 01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:09,040 So where can we find you online, Caitlin, in case people haven't 1746 01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:12,480 listen to the drama trio episodes or Flower of Evil or 1747 01:44:12,480 --> 01:44:15,080 something in the Rain or all the all the episodes that you're on? 1748 01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:19,440 You can find me on Instagram and Tiktok and Twitter under no 1749 01:44:19,440 --> 01:44:23,520 sleep, the number for dramas. I'm mostly on Instagram and 1750 01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:27,440 Tiktok though, so yeah. Or you can go and listen to my 1751 01:44:27,440 --> 01:44:29,400 podcast or blog like. Exactly. 1752 01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:31,880 Yeah. All right. 1753 01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:35,360 Well, that's been our show. I'm Jessica and this has been 1754 01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:39,120 the Tibba K Rambles podcast. None.