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I'm Jessica and this is Teba K 
Rambles, where a couple of 

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friends review Korean dramas. 
Except we are back for another 

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spooky season, Episode A, and I 
am joined by Jessie and Natalia 

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from the Certified Nunes 
podcast. 

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How are you guys? 
Pretty good, pretty good, you 

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know. 
It's our favorite. 

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Season. 
It's my well, it's not my 

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favorite season, but I am an 
advocate, a huge advocate for 

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spooky season. 
Especially when I realized that 

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not all of the K drama girlies 
are into spooky season. 

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No, no they're not. 
Many are not. 

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Many do not see the joy. 
No spooky season like we do. 

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I was like, y'all don't smell 
the pumpkin spice and the blood 

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in the air. 
Like it's amazing. 

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And everyone was like, I'll I 
want my romantic drama. 

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And I was like, no, no, no, no. 
No, no, no, no, no. 

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No, you can get romance anytime 
but. 

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Yeah, OK, let us have this. 
Listen, at least put a little 

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bit of murder in it. 
Goes. 

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To zombies, we're all. 
Exactly, exactly. 

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So I was telling you guys before
we got on that I am a huge fan 

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of certified Nunes. 
I've been listening for a long 

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time. 
It's been a long time coming. 

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I've wanted you guys to come on 
Tipach and I was like, let's pop

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this cherry right now. 
Like let's let's have you guys 

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come on for a scoopy season for 
the perfect time, for the 

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perfect time for the perfect 
time. 

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And I had you guys come on for 
Bong Joon Ho's the host, which 

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is maybe an unusual poll because
I feel like maybe other Bong 

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Joon Ho movies get a lot of 
attention nowadays. 

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But I wanted to harken back to a
true monster movie for the 

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season. 
So before we get into it, maybe 

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it's just share what you guys 
are currently watching. 

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I know you guys are watching a 
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I just, I just listened to 
you're currently watching 

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episode, but maybe just a 
condensed version of what you're

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currently watching. 
Maybe something you want to 

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recommend to listeners? 
To watch. 

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Well, Jesse knows this because 
she heard I discussed it 

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slightly. 
I recently started the memorist,

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did not know what genre the 
memorist was. 

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I just so funny because I was 
like, yeah, OK, it's been on my 

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list for a while. 
Enjoying the real thriller 

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situation happening. 
Big fan of that. 

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But if for all those the, you 
know, the non spooky season 

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girlies, I'm also watching 
monster next door and it is the 

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most saccharine, sweet, lovely 
show that I've ever seen in my 

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life. 
It's a Gaga La La for all of 

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you. 
You know it's gay cause wasn't 

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if you, anyone who's hearing me 
for the first time, if you come 

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over to the noodles at some 
point, you'll know I'm I, I know

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a lot about a certain sub genre 
of fiction that I've been in the

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Yowie life for a while. 
So it's really good. 

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It's a cute show. 
Cute show. 

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Nice. 
Well, I have been in the holiday

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season and watching a lot of 
horror. 

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That's all I've been doing. 
I'm actually doing this 

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challenge where I'm trying to 
watch 100 horror movies that 

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finishes out at the end of the 
month that I started back in the

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beginning of August. 
I'm very close to finishing 

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though. 
I'm like on 85 I think right now

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so. 
What's your pace like? 

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Well, at work I got a little 
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like one specific project. 
So I was able to watch a couple 

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of movies, but like I can do a 
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especially with like horror, 
it's always like usually horror 

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is always like an hour and a 
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So it's like essentially like 2K
drama episodes, which is easy 

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for most people. 
So it's really nothing, you 

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know, and I watch like all types
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So it's kind of like easy just 
to be like, OK, to be tell me 

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what you want me to watch and 
I'll watch it. 

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So that's. 
What I put up the old boot up 

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the old shutter app and be. 
Like right And just like this 

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seems good. 
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I I feel like I watch a lot of 
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But when you said, you said a 
few episodes back it was 

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uncertified Nunes that you were 
doing this challenge and I was 

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like, did I hear that right? 
Because I shit ton of movies. 

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I know it's like. 
Crazy. 

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I've watched 190 movies in the 
entire year. 

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Yeah, that's it. 
That's not bad. 

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Yeah. 
So when you said? 

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Since August you were gunning 
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Movies. 
I was like, the fuck she's 

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saying. 
It like it does. 

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It does help that both Jesse and
I can like watch stuff at work. 

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Yeah, sometimes, yeah. 
Facing at work and stuff so 

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like. 
That's it was doing something 

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where it was like literally, I'm
just like making the same thing 

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over and over and I was like, 
OK, I can like sit here and 

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watch every fan. 
Footage on TV. 

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Yeah, so it was a little bit 
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now my evenings are like packed 
with things and I'm like oh OK, 

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I've got to slow down on this 
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But hey, you've made such a 
good. 

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Look yeah like I can be 
leisurely in October for this 

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like last 15 ish movie so. 
It works out good. 

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That's enough. 
You're. 

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Gonna breathe. 
That's like a week of work. 

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It's nothing. 
You're watching 2 movies a day. 

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You're gonna hit it in no time. 
You're. 

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Five. 
You're 5. 

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Well, I am so glad that you guys
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I'm just stoked really. 
But anyway, before we get into 

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it, before we get into the host,
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Yeah, are. 
Quiet, polite little clouts in 

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the background like this is so 
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Yeah, no one stopped for me when
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That is so cute. 
So we're going to get into it. 

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The host. 
I'll read the IMTV synopsis. 

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A monster emerges from Soul's 
Han River and begins attacking 

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people. 
One victim's loving family does 

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what it can to rescue her from 
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And that's it. 
That's all you need to know if 

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that's those that you know. 
What that pretty much like sums 

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up, literally it does sums up 
basically what you need to know 

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if you're deciding if you're 
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it's like that's what it will 
deliver. 

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You there's a monster in the Han
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It's like someone stopping 
someone on the street when an 

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emergency happens. 
Like, hey, what's going on? 

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There's a monster coming out of 
the Han River. 

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That's literally what the sign. 
Literally. 

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It's, it's brief, it's succinct,
it gives you, it's like the 

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first. 5 minutes, yeah. 
This movie was released July 

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27th, 2006. 
Yes, you heard that right, mid 

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2000s. 
It premiered at CON that year as

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well. 
It's two hours long. 

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It is directed by Pong Joon Ho, 
as I said at the top. 

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So what hasn't he direct? 
This was actually his third 

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feature film ever. 
He's directed Memories of 

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Murder, obviously, the host 
mother from 2009, Snowpiercer, 

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Okcha, and Parasite. 
He's got one more coming out I 

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think this year in time for 
Oscar season with Oh. 

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It's the one when Robert. 
Pattinson, I think, is in it. 

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Mickey. 17. 
Yeah, it looks good. 

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It looks good, actually. 
It looks unhinged. 

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I'm so excited. 
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Pumped. 
They actually pushed the release

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date on that. 
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earlier in the year. 
And then they scrapped the 

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release date altogether and I 
was like, this shit better come 

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out this year. 
I was like they. 

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Better. 
Like, yeah, I'll sit down for 

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anything that like bong and hoe,
thanks. 

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But anything that has Robert. 
Pat no, our Pats is. 

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Hinge little weirdo. 
Yes. 

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Please, I actually used to live 
in the town where he filmed the 

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lighthouse. 
No, you. 

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Didn't I Did. 
I lived in Halifax, which is 

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where it was filmed, and this is
just a fun little aside that has

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nothing to do with this. 
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from the grocery store and I saw
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And then I texted my husband. 
I was like, man, I just saw a 

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homeless man that looked exactly
like Willem Dafoe. 

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No, like he looked exactly like 
Willem Dafoe. 

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And my husband was like, honey, 
I would that was Willem Dafoe. 

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I was like, oh shit, you're 
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How about I fall out of this 
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Willem Dafoe just casually 
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Around I was just walking home 
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I have a bunch of allergies, the
fancy grocery store and I was 

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like, damn, like that's homeless
because like he was in like the 

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full grizzled, like he was in 
the lighthouse. 

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Like a he looked like a 
lighthouse keeper from the, 

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yeah, turn of the century, you 
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Oh my God. 
Rough. 

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You know, I was just like, man, 
like so weird. 

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Like, oh, what a doppelganger. 
He, he he like just going about 

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my business like I. 
Literally have. 

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I mean, this is such a tangent, 
but I say the most stupidest 

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line from the lighthouse and 
it's people want to say because 

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it says so much about me go. 
But it's this is a safe. 

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Space. 
Oh, OK. 

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Thank you. 
So first of all, The Lighthouse 

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is a movie by Robert Eggerts. 
It's completely in black and 

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white. 
I think the aspect ratio is like

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3-2, like basically a square. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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And so if that gives any context
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thriller, basically I say and 
you're farts because of the lie 

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in that movie of them arguing 
back and forth like an old 

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married. 
Couple it's a good movie. 

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It's not like it's completely 
unrelated to home discussion 

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today. 
Completely unrelated to watch it

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everywhere. 
I think it's a good movie. 

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It is. 
The Lighthouse is a it's a good 

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movie. 
It's very open to 

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interpretation. 
I thought it was weird and cool,

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but a lot of people might not. 
I appreciate it. 

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You know what? 
Just. 

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Nothing. 
Just give it a chance. 

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Yes, yeah. 
I mean, yeah. 

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But this is an opportunity to 
maybe watch something outside of

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your genre. 
Yeah. 

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Learn to love it. 
It's a. 

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Beautiful feature. 
The host. 

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The host, you wouldn't think 
they would go together. 

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But we just made it. 
But we just. 

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Did you know what? 
I think they could, yeah. 

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I love it. 
Anyways, the host back on the 

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host. 
You guys are I'm assuming have 

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seen some bung Chun ho movies. 
Did you watch the Oscar? 

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The 2019 Oscars win Bung Chun Ho
God. 

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Parasite. 
Yeah, of course we've. 

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Seen no the Oscars when he won 
and he was telling people to 

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watch subtitles and watch 
Sanders horizons. 

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I was like, I was almost in 
tears. 

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Yeah. 
So yeah. 

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Bong Chun Ho is a household name
in Korea, and he's done some 

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amazing movies. 
Some of them, like Oak Chao, you

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can watch right now on Netflix. 
It's really easy to find 

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Snowpiercers almost entirely in 
English. 

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It has. 
Chris Evans stars in it. 

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Snowpiercers is such a good 
movie. 

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Like yes, it's you do not see 
anything coming that happens in 

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the the movie Snow Piercer. 
No, I haven't seen the TV show 

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they made about it but. 
Yeah, there was a spin off TV 

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show which I haven't watched 
either but I hear it's. 

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So the movie is incredible. 
The movie though, 10 out of 10 

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there's so I think he doesn't 
have like he just doesn't miss. 

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So anyway, he directed the host.
He also wrote it alongside Ha 

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Wenjin and Peck Chill Hyun and 
here's our cast. 

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So we've got some Congo. 
I mean, you throw a rock, you're

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gonna hit some Congo in what? 
You know, if you turn on a large

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portion of Bung and Hoes movies,
you will see that's true. 

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Kango in it. 
They're kind of they love to 

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work. 
Together, they love to work 

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together. 
They are frequent collaborators 

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and it's almost like a Leo 
Scorsese type of deal. 

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They go hand in hand. 
You've also got Pyonghi Bong 

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playing the father or the, you 
know, grandfather, depending on 

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how you look at it. 
In the movie, you have Pacquia 

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playing PAC Namil what? 
The brother of Song Congo's 

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character. 
You have Beduna. 

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Yes, that Beduna we. 
Love, love. 

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We're big. 
We're like a little obsessed 

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with it. 
Oh my. 

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Gosh, just like. 
Tiny lot just. 

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A little. 
Bit OK, I'm gonna join the fan 

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club that you guys have already 
started because I feel like it's

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only fan club sometimes for 
Beduna. 

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She's so cool. 
She's like the coolest human 

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alive. 
So cool. 

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I know, I know. 
Yeah, we covered Stranger Season

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1 earlier in this year and I was
fangirling again when we were 

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talking about her filmography 
and she's so good in that show. 

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So Beit Dune is in this, and 
then we have Kolosong playing 

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Pakyong. 
So she is the child in the 

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movie. 
I know. 

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She's so little. 
She's so really old. 

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Like this is this is like the 
the question I always ask every 

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time I'm like, but I've seen her
as an adult in things. 

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Oh. 
No. 

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Oh, no, no. 
No, wait. 

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Yeah. 
And then we have Scott Wilson as

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Douglas and Paul Lazar as an 
American, unnamed American 

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doctor. 
These two are actually very good

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actor, like Paul Lazar was in 
Silence of the Lambs, for 

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instance. 
And then Scott Wilson, I know 

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him from The Walking Dead. 
He's Herschel, and he's been in 

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other things too. 
He's just a great actor. 

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That's what I know him from. 
Too. 

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Oh, great. 
Oh, OK, good. 

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I don't, I don't really watch 
that many like Western things. 

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It's like outside of like HBO. 
So I'm just like, yeah. 

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It's Herschel. 
Hey. 

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You're white guy in Herschel. 
Yeah. 

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So that is pretty much our cast 
and that we've come to the end 

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of that. 
So what did you guys think of 

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the host? 
I don't believe this is your 

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first time watching it, but just
give me your general thoughts on

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how you feel about this 06 gem. 
First off, straight off, I own 

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it on DVD, so I think that says.
Every. 

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You know, it's pretty high. 
It is. 

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It is such a good, solid monster
movie. 

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It also has one of the most 
accurate depictions of just a 

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random American in a crisis that
I've ever seen. 

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From the scene where the monster
first emerges. 

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I was like, that, that's 
accurate. 

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The one the one American dude, I
was like. 

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Yes. 
It's just a good movie, like 

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it's just a solid fun movie to 
watch. 

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Like it's not, it's not too gory
and it's not really that scary. 

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So I think like a lot of people 
who pop like who might, you 

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know, be a little bit less into 
the spooky things, I don't think

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they'd have too much of A. 
Problem. 

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That's true. 
This is like really approachable

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for most people I think. 
I absolutely love it. 

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It's one of my favorite Korean 
movies. 

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I also am a very big creature 
feature person, so like it's 

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right up my alley, like a love 
monster. 

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So it's just always had a 
special place in my heart and it

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can just like watch it over and 
over, like and I have over and 

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over so. 
And I'll do it again. 

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And I'll do it again. 
Next year, Yeah. 

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This is maybe my second or third
time watching the movie and I 

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forgot how funny it was. 
Yeah. 

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It's like sort of like a lot of 
comedy. 

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Like dry humor, like it's not 
like a like over the top, like 

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it's not like the sitcom. 
Bumbling idiots. 

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Yeah. 
Like, it's just like these the 

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people in this, it's happening. 
Yeah, they have. 

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No, like there's no reason why 
they should be doing any of 

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this. 
They are the most I'll equipped 

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people to be. 
So. 

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But aren't we all like, aren't 
we all those people? 

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Like that's how we would all be 
doing. 

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We're like, oh, there's a 
creature. 

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Oh, he's coming after us right 
now. 

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What do I do? 
The focus on I've been throwing 

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deer cans at it. 
Is like the person with special 

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skills like you got Liam Neeson 
over here just fighting zombies 

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or what have you. 
And it's like I am just a 

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regular person who can't 
remember how many shotgun shells

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I shot. 
Like you know what I'm saying? 

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I didn't even make it to the 
shotgun. 

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I'm I'm like tripping, like 
there's no running for me. 

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Like I'm just like tripping. 
I don't do cardio like. 

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Exactly. 
I'm like, I don't work out OK. 

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Like, no, really what I would 
have been doing as soon as like 

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things were going on in the the 
water. 

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I'm from Florida. 
I'm like peace out, you know? 

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Bye bye. 
Let it part. 

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Of it, I don't need it. 
I'm just gonna go back to my 

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car. 
Wildlife and Fisheries. 

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Man, like yeah. 
This doesn't seem like my 

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problem at the moment. 
I pay taxes on the. 

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Thank you. 
Prayers. 

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I'm out. 
Goodbye. 

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Yeah. 
I thought this movie was 

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hysterical and also really fun 
and heartfelt because this 

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family has, they're stupid. 
Like, this is a literally, yeah,

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a stupid family with no 
marketable skills. 

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Their skills are really random. 
If they have a skill, they're on

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the bottom rung of society and 
they're like in over their heads

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trying to. 
It's it's basically like a 

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kidnapping movie. 
Kind of. 

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Yeah. 
And so how are they gonna when, 

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when a monster kidnaps somebody 
in your family, like, how are 

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you gonna deal with it when 
nobody and then nobody? 

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Believes them. 
Regular people, yeah. 

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And. 
They're they're just idiots. 

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They're all buffoons. 
Especially Sonkongwell's 

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character. 
Like Sonkongwell. 

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Plays one of the best buffoons. 
It's like at one point and 

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you're just like, is this man 
brain damned? 

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That's the dad literally says 
that in the movie. 

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He's like, I think. 
It's just like he just like, but

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it's like. 
Then the dad goes through this 

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long story about why he's 
pitiful, but it never actually 

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gets to the point like that 
explains anything. 

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It's just like. 
But with that you're like that 

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explains everything. 
Like. 

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He's. 
OK, just really dumb and inept. 

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OK, like. 
But he has heart, you know? 

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Like, listen, he's not a bad 
guy. 

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It's he's just. 
It's fun because it's like a 

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dysfunctional family, but 
they're not like dysfunctional 

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and like that they hate each 
other. 

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Like it's just that they're all 
like on their own paths of 

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weirdness and levels of 
intellect and then they just 

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like all love each other. 
And so that's like really like 

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part of this like whole movie is
that the the family being so go 

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together because they truly love
each other as a family. 100 

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percent, 100% so I definitely 
recommend this movie just 

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because it is a black comedy, 
you're gonna get a lot of laughs

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out of it. 
You're gonna fall in love with 

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this stupid ass family trying to
save the girl and this monster. 

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It's 2006, OK, like the CGI on 
it maybe at one point was a 

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really, really good but. 
Even by today's like. 

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It's fine by today's standards. 
Like, it's not. 

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You're not going to be like, 
like, you're just like, OK, 

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yeah, it was 2006. 
It's 2006. 

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They were doing, they were doing
their best, you know? 

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But I have to say, I've never 
seen a monster that looks like 

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this. 
Yeah, no, very. 

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Interesting like. 
Unique like sort of deep sea 

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creature. 
It's like deep sea Audrey 2 

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vibes. 
Too late. 

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Yeah, I. 
Feel like like deep sea mixed 

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with alien mixed with octopus 
tentacle beef. 

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It's got tentacles, it's got 
teeth, it's got it's got every. 

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It's got everyone. 
And it's amphibious. 

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And yet it's got everything. 
It kind of. 

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Looks like an evil tadpole half 
become a frog. 

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Yes, yeah. 
Like that's kind of the vibe of 

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this shape, like sort of 
spermatazoid shape with. 

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Legs, you know, and appendages 
and. 

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Yeah. 
It's just. 

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You know, sort of like a 
Predator face opening situation 

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like 100. 
Percent the predator face. 

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Oh my God, you nailed. 
It they were doing things in the

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creature design you know someone
was having. 

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Fun they were, definitely. 
Having a lot of fun, you know. 

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But the movie, like any other 
Bong Turn home movie, does 

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comment on certain things. 
The story that it's based on, 

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which we'll get to in the fun 
fact section, is real. 

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Like the inciting incident at 
the beginning of the movie is 

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real and it features like 
footage of the Iraqi war and it 

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has a really bold stance against
like the American military, 

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which I I don't think it's that 
bold in this day and age, but in

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the mid 2000. 
In a bold the reasonable stance 

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to. 
Be honest, in the mid 2000s, I 

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can see why it was maybe bold, 
why people were like, oh wow, so

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he's saying something about it. 
And I like all of that. 

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I think it stands the test of 
time. 

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And the Korean sensibility is 
funny too. 

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And that stands up against a 
sense of time, too. 

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Like there's an interview at one
point, and this isn't a spoiler.

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They're interviewing this nurse 
on the news and there's she's 

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saying, oh, I'm going to sue 
them for, for damages or 

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whatever because he knocked me 
down when they were trying to 

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escape and all this stuff. 
And I got hurt. 

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And they're like, he's like, I 
didn't even push her down that 

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hard. 
Like they're like, and they 

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don't show the nurse's face. 
They just show her from like the

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waist down. 
Yeah. 

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And they've got her voice like 
through the voice changer as 

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well. 
So it's like, why? 

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Why hide so much of her 
identity? 

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It's a joke. 
It's like a social joke. 

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Because they do it how litigious
people get. 

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Yeah, and like everything going 
on, that's what you're worried. 

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About it. 
Literally. 

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Literally. 
People are dying. 

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Bitching about like I got I need
to sue them for damages anyway, 

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so things like that really work 
in the movie. 

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So is there anything else 
general that you would like to 

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say about the Host before we 
move into fun facts? 

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Because there's quite a few fun.
Facts about this? 

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There's many of fun facts, Yeah.
No, I think we can just go right

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to the fun. 
Facts. 

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All right, awesome. 
Let's get. 

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Fun it is, it is all right the. 
Estimated budget of the host was

453
00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:27,440
12 billion one, which is about 
$9 million. 

454
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,080
That's nothing. 
That's very, very small budget 

455
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,840
that's. 
Not with this cast. 

456
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,240
The amount of cast that you 
have. 

457
00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:38,640
Yeah, yeah, like 2. 
Listen, they were budgeting 

458
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,520
wisely. 
Yes, this one. 

459
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,880
They made that money work. 
The fact that there were so many

460
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:49,960
CGI shots of the creature full 
on in the daylight and stuff 

461
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,560
like. 
That interacting with humans 

462
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,560
too, like it's a pretty intense.
Stunt work as well, yeah. 

463
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,000
You know, people being thrown 
around and stuff. 

464
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,680
Yeah, incredible. 
So $9 million. 

465
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,680
It grossed $89.4 million 
worldwide. 

466
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,720
There you go. 
People. 

467
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,400
People really liked this one. 
Yeah, he hit it out of the. 

468
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,560
Park with this. 
One, are you kidding? 

469
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,800
It made $80 million. 
That's great. 

470
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,760
Like yeah, which is the little 
creature feature. 

471
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,920
That is good. 
It is currently #7 the highest 

472
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,080
grossing film in Korea. 
For reference, there are other 

473
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,640
Bong Joon Ho movies on the 
highest grossing list. 

474
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,080
Parasite is number 24, so 
Piercer 27. 

475
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:35,680
Memories of Murder number 83. 
It used to be the number one 

476
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,600
movie, highest grossing in Korea
for many years. 

477
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,240
Caveat, they only started 
recording these numbers in 2004.

478
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,160
So it's only for the last 20 
years, you know, not for the 

479
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,440
whole history of Korean cinema. 
So I don't know why they 

480
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,200
wouldn't do that, record that, 
but whatever. 

481
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,680
The Co writer and director of 
Pong Junho and the designer of 

482
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,360
the creature nicknamed it Steve 
Buscemi because they based it 

483
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,280
the design of it on the actors 
screen persona and the way he 

484
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,880
acted in Fargo from 1996. 
Sure, sure. 

485
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,600
That's why forgot it here. 
That's why, that's why 

486
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:18,400
absolutely, I believe that that 
is a true statement that they 

487
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,360
definitely stand behind. 
Oh. 

488
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,800
My God the Steve Buscemi thing 
like knocked me over. 

489
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,920
I love Steve Buscemi, he's a 
good guy, but. 

490
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,720
Like maybe the eyeball thing, 
like cuz it's kind of got like 

491
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,680
bulging eyes and stuff. 
I was like, whoa, he can't. 

492
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,640
Listen, he's made a good career 
out of being a weird looking 

493
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:39,440
little dude. 
Yeah. 

494
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,880
And you gotta, you gotta, you 
know, give him props for that. 

495
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,560
Props, man, Don't hurt Steve, 
All right. 

496
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,720
The The event described in the 
beginning of the film is based 

497
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:52,120
on an actual event in February 
2000 at AUS military facility 

498
00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:55,800
located in the center of Seoul. 
AUS military civilian employee 

499
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,880
named Mr. McFarland was ordered 
to dispose of formaldehyde by 

500
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,560
dumping it into the sewer system
that led to the Han River, 

501
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,080
despite the objection of a South
Korean subordinate. 

502
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,560
The government attempted to 
prosecute Mr. McFarland in 

503
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,160
court, but the US military 
refused to hand over custody of 

504
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,960
Mr. McFarland. 
Shocker Shocker. 

505
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,040
Later, a South Korean judge 
convicted Mr. McFarland in 

506
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,400
absentia. 
The public was enraged. 

507
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,200
Sort of a empty. 
Jail. 

508
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,560
Yeah, that. 
Point. 

509
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,360
I know he ain't here, but he's 
guilty. 

510
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,600
The public was enraged at the 
government's inability to 

511
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,800
enforce its law on its own soil 
in O5. 

512
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,720
Nearly five years after the 
original incident, Mr. McFarlane

513
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,120
was finally found guilty in a 
court in his presence. 

514
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,240
However, he never served the 
prison sentence. 

515
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,880
And of course not. 
And there have been no sightings

516
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,280
of a mutant creature in the Han 
River. 

517
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,920
Yet no, wasn't. 
I'm sure there are somewhere. 

518
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,880
Maybe it's slow growing. 
It's it's slow, it's time. 

519
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,800
I thought this was hysterical. 
There was a statue of the 

520
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,240
mutated creature from the movie 
erected in Seoul in around 

521
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,160
20/13/2014. 
It was positioned in a river 

522
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,880
park situated between Maple 
Bridge and One Hill Bridge as in

523
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,920
the movie. 
News hit just this year that the

524
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,920
city of Seoul is going to remove
it. 

525
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,560
The sculpture has faced 
increasing criticism over time 

526
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,040
for its perceived lack of 
aesthetics value, and people 

527
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,480
pointed out that it was a waste 
of money. 

528
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,200
People don't get it. 
They already spent the money. 

529
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,160
I'm like, of course they've 
already spent the money. 

530
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,480
Yeah. 
It's like they've already wasted

531
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,640
air quotes. 
The money, the money it's got. 

532
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,760
Let it live. 
Just let it listen. 

533
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,520
The world needs weird little 
dudes. 

534
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:37,880
Yeah, OK. 
And like. 

535
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,400
I saw a picture of it and I was 
like, it's literally the 

536
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,120
creature is literally there. 
You can take a photo with it. 

537
00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:45,840
It's for the tourists. 
That's fun. 

538
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,480
It's for the children. 
Places it's. 

539
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,400
For the children, it's for the 
children. 

540
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,480
Leave it. 
The crew of the film used metal 

541
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,800
barrels to make the splash 
effects whenever the monster 

542
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,080
would dive into the water. 
And I was like, yeah, that makes

543
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,960
sense. 
Bong Joon Ho felt that in many 

544
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:02,800
monster movies, it's always the 
scientists or the muscle bound 

545
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,320
hero who saves the day. 
He wanted the heroes of his film

546
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,280
to be everyday people, namely a 
dysfunctional family. 

547
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,160
He took the same approach with 
his previous film Memories of 

548
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,800
Murder, in which the police 
investigating the serial killer 

549
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,960
case were stupid. 
Critic and longtime friend of 

550
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,560
the director Tony Raines 
mentions this is common in Pong 

551
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,560
Chun Ho's films, the idea of a 
lower to middle class character 

552
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,200
who is on a downward track. 
The director mentions with these

553
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,040
characters he can bring out the 
humanity in them, whereas the 

554
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,280
typical superheroes types don't 
bring out much real drama. 

555
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,200
I agree. 
I agree. 

556
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,240
There's like, I feel like you 
can really connect more with 

557
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,680
just an average idiot because I 
think most of us are just 

558
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,480
average idiots. 
So like. 

559
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,680
Yeah. 
They just do more things that 

560
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,120
you would do too. 
You're like, Oh yeah, like yeah,

561
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,720
you have to use your 
surroundings more instead of 

562
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,040
just being strength, like strong
and stuff so. 

563
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,680
Yeah, Why is Scott Wilson in 
this movie? 

564
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,280
That's because Pong. 
Joon Ho was impressed with his 

565
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,920
performance after having seen 
him in the movie Monster from 

566
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,280
2003, among other things. 
So he approached him by sending 

567
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,840
him a copy of the script and a 
DVD of his previous film, 

568
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,320
Memories of Murder, which is an 
excellent film if you haven't 

569
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,080
seen it it. 
Is. 

570
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,320
Really good. 
The actor later agreed to be in 

571
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,040
the film. 
He's like, he's like 

572
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,600
auditioning. 
He's like, hey, he's like. 

573
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,240
Please, it's like a little love 
letter. 

574
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,720
He's. 
Like, hey, I would do the same 

575
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:24,760
thing. 
Yeah. 

576
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,320
Hi. 
It's me. 

577
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,160
It's a little old. 
Function, The design of the pod 

578
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,440
used to deploy Agent Yellow was 
specifically designed to 

579
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,920
resemble the look of the 
creature when it is first seen 

580
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,960
hanging upside down under the 
one heel bridge. 

581
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,800
And once I read that, I was 
like, Oh yeah, I'm an idiot. 

582
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,760
It totally does look just like 
that. 

583
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:49,760
Yeah, there were five companies 
involved to execute and animate 

584
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,880
the creature, but the designs of
the creature were done by Widow 

585
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,320
Workshop. 
Oh hell yeah, Widow. 

586
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,960
Workshop they they were doing it
back then like. 

587
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,120
I was so excited when I read 
that Widow Workshop, for those 

588
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:08,240
who don't know, did everything 
for Lord of the Rings. 

589
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,600
And that was how that company 
got its start, by doing 

590
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,960
everything for Lord of the 
Rings. 

591
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,720
I'm very happy to say we're a 
workshop. 

592
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,560
And it's because I've watched 
all of the extended editions and

593
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,960
the the special features on 
that. 

594
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,840
Yes, they say we're a workshop. 
I don't know, 50 million times. 

595
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,760
They're just getting a little 
advertising for their little, 

596
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,520
you know, New Zealand or little 
Kiwi situation. 

597
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,400
They're so. 
Excited about everything during 

598
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,320
that so. 
Like it's very rare that like a 

599
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,040
Jessie knows this. 
It's very rare that props people

600
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,760
get to like be front and center.
So they're just like, look at 

601
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,720
this cool. 
Stuff we've made like exactly. 

602
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,240
Moving on to Tony Raines again, 
he mentions the tradition of 

603
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,640
withholding the monster in 
typical monster movies and the 

604
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,200
fact that Bone completely breaks
the tradition. 

605
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,080
Bong Joon Ho mentions how much 
he hates this tradition and 

606
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,920
jumped at the chance to show his
creature fully and early. 

607
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,440
This also got the aspect of the 
film out of the way so the 

608
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,280
audience could focus on the 
impact the creature has on the 

609
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,160
family. 
I love that this film movie just

610
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,280
does that. 
It's like, here's the first 

611
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,080
10-15 minutes of the movie. 
Here's a creature. 

612
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,120
Yeah, no suspense. 
Yeah, it's time for the mayhem, 

613
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:23,920
my friend. 
Yes. 

614
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,320
See exactly what the creature 
looks like. 

615
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,720
You don't have to like sit here 
and like guess or just like look

616
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,520
in the shadows. 
No there full sunlight running 

617
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,880
around tossing people, eating 
people. 

618
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:37,680
It's foul. 
It's great. 

619
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,880
Perfect. 
Yeah, it's great. 

620
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,520
Bong Joon Ho also decided to 
incorporate footage from the 

621
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,800
Iraq war in the film's news 
footage for two reasons. 

622
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,600
First, it allowed the story to 
progress, but it also gave Bong 

623
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,960
Joon Ho the ability to include 
political satire. 

624
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,680
Bong Chin Ho. 
Political satire, I say. 

625
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,320
This and so I'm. 
Sheared I'm personally. 

626
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,960
She's like the first I've ever. 
Seen it? 

627
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,440
Not that jacked, but the. 
Blonde hair with black roots 

628
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,480
showing through on some Congo 
was a deliberate choice to make 

629
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,240
the character appear lazy and 
not very bright. 

630
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,160
Nailed it. 
I mean, listen. 

631
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:17,040
It worked. 
My extremely oh, get up, come 

632
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,720
on. 
No, come on man, some of us just

633
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,160
have a lot going on. 
That fun fact? 

634
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:29,320
Wasn't calling you out. 
Time, money and eating are two 

635
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,360
important motifs Pong Chunho 
points out in the film. 

636
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,080
Which is very true. 
The monster eats. 

637
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,680
The people eats, everybody eats.
And then there's a lot of like 

638
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,120
money issues. 
The family had has money issues.

639
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,720
You get to pay for things. 
They get hustled like at one 

640
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,640
point in the movie. 
Because of its themes, which can

641
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,760
be seen as critical of the 
United States, the film was 

642
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,560
lauded by North Korean 
authorities, a rarity for a 

643
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,360
South Korean blockbuster film 
that's. 

644
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,400
Like a real like enemy of my 
enemy situation happening right 

645
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,520
here. 
It's like, oh, oh, yeah, we hate

646
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:05,880
them too. 
Yeah, yeah. 

647
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,920
All right. 
Oh, God, that really, that 

648
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,680
tickled me. 
And they were like North Korea 

649
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:16,280
really liked it because of the 
undercurrent of criticism. 

650
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,400
All right, so now that we've 
gone through all the facts, 

651
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,480
which were very, very fun, we're
going to get into a rating this 

652
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,560
movie out of five soldier 
bottles. 

653
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,200
So I don't know who wants to go 
first, but what would you rate 

654
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,320
this movie out of five soldier 
bottles? 

655
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,360
Well, on MTLI have it rated 9 
out of 10. 

656
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:40,160
So if that's out of five, that's
a four and a half five if my 

657
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:45,920
math is to be believed. 
I looked on my letterbox and I 

658
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,480
have this at 4 1/2 out of five 
as well. 4 1/2 out of five. 

659
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:55,600
I will give it four out of five 
just cause the CGI maybe is a 

660
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,600
little dated. 
You know, I get that. 

661
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,840
But it's very fun. 
It's very, it moves. 

662
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,760
Like even though it's two hours 
long, it totally moves. 

663
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,920
It's not boring. 
It's really funny and it says a 

664
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,960
lot. 
It's definitely satirical. 

665
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:14,199
And this family is just great to
watch and it's a great cast and 

666
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:16,600
smart script and everything's 
great. 

667
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,000
No really bad things to say 
about it. 

668
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,639
I'm really choosy with my 
ratings for movies, especially 

669
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:27,040
if if I look in my letterbox, I 
really give something five 

670
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,800
stars. 
I don't know why. 

671
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,760
My rating system enrages some 
people because I don't rate 

672
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,159
movies based on how, like, 
quality they are. 

673
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:39,520
I rate them based on how much I 
enjoyed them. 

674
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,159
Yeah, So I enjoyed it. 
A nine out of 10. 

675
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:44,159
Yeah, which is a four and a half
out of five. 

676
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,760
And that's so, you know, people 
are always like, but that's a 

677
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,760
terrible thing. 
And you rated it so highly. 

678
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,880
I'm like cuz. 
I enjoyed it, yeah, my rating. 

679
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,280
So it's my my feeling. 
It's like your opinion, man, 

680
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,240
Yeah. 
I will give whole stars for a 

681
00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:00,480
needle drop in the movie. 
I'll be like, that was an 

682
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,200
amazing needle drop. 
I can't believe they got that. 

683
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,120
Like a terrible movie for me, 
but if I enjoyed it and had fun 

684
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,720
with it, it's gonna get lots of 
stars for me. 

685
00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:10,480
I'll be like, yeah. 
Whatever the script. 

686
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,800
Quite terrible things are fun. 
OK. 

687
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,760
And if you enjoyed that? 
The movie has. 

688
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,280
Yeah. 
Yep, Yep. 

689
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,760
I also think that, like, ratings
should be personal so that like 

690
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:26,320
if I were like, oh, I really 
like Natalia's, like picks for 

691
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,600
things a lot. 
So I can go to her and look at 

692
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,480
what she writes high and then be
like, OK, probably like what she

693
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,760
rated high versus what, like 
just the general population is 

694
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,560
rating high. 
It's not going to be the same 

695
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,840
effect for me if, especially 
when I'm, like, out looking for 

696
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,640
options to watch myself. 
Yeah. 

697
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,760
Have a trusted person that you 
know shares your you know the 

698
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,280
same things you like and people 
can you can like bad things 

699
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,640
people, it's OK. 
You don't have to pretend you 

700
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,640
don't. 
You can just like it. 

701
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,760
It's fine like. 
That is literally don't worry 

702
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,560
there's always everyone rates 
differently and it's always the 

703
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,400
struggle between like I 
personally love it but I know 

704
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:11,240
it's trash So what do I rate it?
Here's The thing is that you 

705
00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:14,840
know the one person's trash is 
another person's treasure. 

706
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,520
Like it may be trash to some 
people but to you it was a 

707
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,760
treasure and that means to 
someone else it will be as well.

708
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,880
So leave your truth with your 
ratings. 

709
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,920
I love creature features and I 
will watch the worst ones 

710
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,440
imaginable and still be like 
this was the best movie ever. 

711
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,560
But this is an. 
Exact $0.50 on the entire it's. 

712
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,400
Not a bad creature feature 
movie. 

713
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,800
But this however, is great. 
Yeah. 

714
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,280
And Jesse knows that side of my 
reading. 

715
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,640
Most of my likes are some of the
most questionable like things 

716
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,080
you've ever seen. 
That I'm just like, listen. 

717
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,920
To tell you also watches 
everything, yeah. 

718
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:55,400
I watch every so I have. 
I have no litmus for like Eddie.

719
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:56,920
I like everything. 
I'm easy. 

720
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,520
To please, as they say. 
But this was an easy a movie 

721
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,720
that I think many people would 
find pleasing, so that's fine. 

722
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,000
Agreed. 
I think like the reception to it

723
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,840
like speaks volumes about that 
too. 

724
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,440
So. 
It's very well received 

725
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,440
critically and obviously in the 
box office, the audiences loved 

726
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,360
it as well and still continue to
love it. 

727
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,400
All right, so those are our 
ratings. 

728
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,000
It was 4, four and a half and 
five. 

729
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,800
Do I? 
Have that right Four and a half,

730
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,120
4 1/2 and 4. 4/4 and 1/2 and. 
Four. 

731
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,440
Yeah. 4 1/2 Two. 
Four and a halfs. 24 and a halfs

732
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,480
1 four, yeah. 
Did it There you go. 

733
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,760
Did it round that out all right.
Numbers are hard. 

734
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,200
The numbers are so hard I. 
Did numbers all, especially now.

735
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:44,600
OK, so we are going to spoil the
host right after this. 

736
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,040
The greatest trick Houston, We 
have a problem. 

737
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:49,880
I am the father. 
I see dead people. 

738
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,120
The devil ever pulled. 
Pay no attention to that man 

739
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,520
behind the curtain. 
Was convincing the world. 

740
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,360
You can't handle the truth. 
He didn't exist. 

741
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:05,840
No, What's in the box? 
All right, we're on the other 

742
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,560
side of spoilers, so we are 
going to spoil the host. 

743
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,440
As we said, there's a monster, 
it terrorizes this hole, it 

744
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,240
comes out of the Han River, and 
this poor family gets their kid 

745
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,680
kidnapped. 
I mean, we kind of spoiled it 

746
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:18,880
already, but. 
Like. 

747
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,640
But like that's really happens 
very in the beginning. 

748
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,280
I do talk about this over the 
Nunas a lot, is that there is 

749
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,760
plot driven media and there's 
also character driven media. 

750
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,080
And this is really a character 
driven media. 

751
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,360
So the plot is very basic and 
doesn't actually, yeah, it 

752
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,680
doesn't. 
It's not that complex. 

753
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:43,600
Like it's a simple plot, but 
what's important is like what 

754
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,840
the characters do within this 
very bare bones of a plot. 

755
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,080
Yeah, absolutely. 
But also, there's like a 

756
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,720
secondary monster in within, 
like the scientists and the 

757
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:56,400
government that you don't really
immediately see. 

758
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,800
You see the monster, the 
creature before all the other 

759
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,920
stuff happens too. 
So there is, you know, some 

760
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,080
developments throughout the 
entire movie. 

761
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:11,000
You get some surprises. 
Yeah, I do enjoy, you know, post

762
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,840
COVID post. 
Oh yeah, you know, I do enjoy 

763
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,920
the, you know, here I was 
actually talking about this with

764
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,080
my husband today where when you 
watch movies like this before 

765
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,920
COVID, when like they would 
bring up like a pandemic like, 

766
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,840
you know, cuz there's like a 
mysterious virus apparently that

767
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,400
they've invented. 
OK. 

768
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:32,880
And you like people, you know, 
people wouldn't really act like 

769
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,880
this. 
But no, we all know they do and 

770
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,880
will. 
And so I was just like, yeah. 

771
00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:43,720
Yeah, this is exactly how it 
would play out. 100. 

772
00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:47,360
Percent. 
How this would happen, yeah. 

773
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,960
And so he was a bit ahead of his
time for that. 

774
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,200
Absolutely. 
Where it's just like and I think

775
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:58,680
that really shows he has a real 
good sense of like humanity and 

776
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,720
like human nature with all with 
like a lot of his with pretty 

777
00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:04,560
much every one of his movies. 
Yeah, it's like one thing you 

778
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,120
can say about, you know, bunch 
and hoe films is that he knows 

779
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,720
how humans are. 
And it's like and I feel like a 

780
00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:14,240
lot of movies really present 
like an idealized version of 

781
00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:17,280
humanity, Like, oh, humanity 
will always like work for the 

782
00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:19,920
for everyone will eventually do 
the right thing. 

783
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,160
And it's like, no. 
No. 

784
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,160
And it's not even like, you 
know, a sinister villain. 

785
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,280
It's just like, normal people 
are just stupid. 

786
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:27,280
Yeah. 
And. 

787
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,880
Like various degrees too. 
Like there are some people who 

788
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,680
are just like just don't want to
do it just to self preserve 

789
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,480
themselves. 
But like then there's also like 

790
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,920
actual terrible people, but then
there's also people who are just

791
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,320
like, I'm just trying. 
I just, I'm not good at it too. 

792
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,880
I'm. 
Just, you know, just enable. 

793
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:50,280
I really enjoyed how he's sort 
of very succinctly, without 

794
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,840
saying too much would craft like
the like the family. 

795
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:58,560
He would give you enough without
explicitly saying it to make 

796
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,640
sense of their actions. 
So like, for example, like the 

797
00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:05,760
the brother character, he'd like
when they're on the run, he goes

798
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,160
and he meets his friend and 
there's all these references 

799
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,520
like, well, you went to college,
though you then find out he 

800
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,200
didn't spend that much time in 
the classroom because he and his

801
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,240
buddies were all part of like 
the student protests that were, 

802
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,240
you know, quite violent in like 
the 90s in Korea. 

803
00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:23,800
And so then later when they're 
in a cab and he's making like, 

804
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,760
Molotov coffee. 
Oh my God, yes. 

805
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,160
So you bought and like the taxi 
drivers like damn, like you are 

806
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,480
like really efficient and good 
at that. 

807
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:32,880
He's like just keep driving, 
just keep driving. 

808
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,560
Don't worry about it. 
Like and so and that shows a lot

809
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,520
about his character and like the
way that he can quickly like 

810
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,440
light all other Molotovs And 
then, you know, of course, 

811
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,480
because he is who he is, biffs 
it at the last moment. 

812
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,920
Absolutely, because that's him 
as a person, right? 

813
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,720
Yes. 
And yeah. 

814
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,600
And it's these, they're just 
like these little things that he

815
00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:00,440
always adds just that are small 
little takeaways, right? 

816
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,640
That really sort of like, 
they're not quite Chekhov guns. 

817
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,240
Like, they're not, you know, 
it's not that much of like, no, 

818
00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:09,840
but they are. 
They're character building and 

819
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,320
you. 
Yeah, they're talking. 

820
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,200
If we stay on the brother, 
they're talking about him going 

821
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,920
to college. 
And they're like, you know, it's

822
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,720
kind of a sense of they have so 
much pride around that. 

823
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:21,040
He went to college. 
He's the only one in the family 

824
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,800
that. 
Yeah, he's still an unemployed, 

825
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,680
but he's still unemployed. 
So like, even though he has like

826
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,640
this one up in the family, this 
is obviously Korea values 

827
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,240
education highly. 
He went to college, but he's 

828
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,720
unemployed. 
He's still a bum at the end of 

829
00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:36,720
the day. 
They're gonna show that like 

830
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,160
other side. 
It's like they are talking about

831
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,600
this like kind of outward 
persona of like everybody. 

832
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,240
But, like, that doesn't mean 
that they're actually, like, 

833
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:45,600
good at anything. 
Yeah. 

834
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,120
Or like, above anyone else. 
Yeah. 

835
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,880
I also really like how the 
family ties together in that way

836
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,880
too, because, like, Bei Dumo's 
character, she is constantly 

837
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,240
failing at our archery, too. 
Like, so like, you get like, 

838
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,640
more of a sense of like, yes, 
this is where this family is. 

839
00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:06,800
But like once they start to 
actually come together and 

840
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,960
really focus on each other and 
focus on like A1 specific thing 

841
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,360
and that's so important for 
them, you start to see them also

842
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,040
develop their skills more. 
And that's kind of like a really

843
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,840
nice evolution within this 
movie. 

844
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,800
Yeah, I like that too. 
Yeah. 

845
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,320
Cuz you get the sense that 
individually they're sort of on 

846
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,080
the cusp of graziness. 
Except, I mean, except for some 

847
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,040
Congo's character, like, that's 
just beyond like, yeah, 

848
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,880
anything. 
They're like all like different 

849
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,040
levels. 
But you know what? 

850
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,720
I will like give him. 
I got to give him a little bit 

851
00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:41,800
of credit because despite the 
fact he's stupid, he's 

852
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,280
incredibly stupid, but he's so 
stupid that he doesn't know how 

853
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,200
not to actually do brave things.
He's earnest. 

854
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,880
He doesn't consciously you can 
very see he's not consciously 

855
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,920
realizing that's what he's 
doing. 

856
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,560
But like in, you know, in the 
scene where like the monster 

857
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,800
first appears, he's genuinely 
trying to help people like he 

858
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,800
he's the only one who like goes 
with the gung ho American 

859
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,840
soldier to like try to fight 
back against the monster. 

860
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,760
Like he, you know he. 
True. 

861
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,560
Ineptly attempts to save his 
daughter. 

862
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:18,040
Like he, he fucks it up because 
that's like this whole arc. 

863
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,400
But like, he tries, yeah. 
And so he, I feel like a lot of 

864
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,920
times they, they made him 
stupid, but they sometimes make 

865
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,240
stupid people unlikable. 
No, he's lovable. 

866
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,560
True. 
Yeah, but he's just like you 

867
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,560
feel such compassion for this 
guy because you're like, I'm 

868
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,520
pretty sure you're brain damaged
like cuz that's, but you're 

869
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:42,840
actually kind like like he's 
been trying to save up money to 

870
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:47,360
buy his daughter a new phone, 
but all he saved is like $0.10 

871
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:48,600
and pence. 
He's got like. 

872
00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:51,960
And his daughter's like, thanks 
for that, but you're never going

873
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,960
to be able to buy a new phone. 
It's just like a. 

874
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,120
Ramen cup. 
Yeah, full of coin. 

875
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,720
And she's like, there's not even
any orders in here. 

876
00:45:01,720 --> 00:45:02,360
Broly. 
Yeah. 

877
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,320
Buy me a new phone. 
It's gonna do nothing. 

878
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,200
It's basically like a take a 
penny, leverage penny. 

879
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,880
But he's also genuinely doing 
it. 

880
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,360
It's not like he's like being 
like lazy about it. 

881
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,440
It's like, genuinely, he's like 
sitting there trying his best 

882
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,400
and that's his best. 
Yeah, yeah, His best isn't very 

883
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,440
good, but like it's his best. 
And, you know, and she actually,

884
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,960
and what I liked about her 
relationship with him is you 

885
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,600
very quickly find out that she 
doesn't actually seem to resent 

886
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,880
him for being. 
Yeah, just so stupid because 

887
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,440
she's not. 
She could have been a lot. 

888
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,600
Worse than she was. 
Yeah, she's just a middle 

889
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:36,480
schooler. 
She's just. 

890
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,600
A middle schooler, she wants a 
new phone. 

891
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,960
Her phone is old. 
She was embarrassed that her 

892
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,960
drunk uncle went to parents day 
or some part sort of 

893
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,720
presentation where the parents 
went and she was the only one 

894
00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:50,920
whose parent didn't go and uncle
went and he was drunk as a skunk

895
00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:53,440
and so she was complaining about
that. 

896
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,760
Which, honestly, same. 
Yeah, that's a. 

897
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,160
Valid. 
Absolutely, yeah. 

898
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,320
And then later on you find out 
that she actually, despite not 

899
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,760
being stupid, she's cuz she's 
not. 

900
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:08,480
She actually has that same sense
of kindness that you see in her 

901
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,200
father. 
Because unlike pretty much 

902
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,280
everyone else in this movie 
who's out for themselves, she 

903
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,200
actually saves someone. 
Unlike anyone else in this 

904
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,920
movie, she actually manages to 
save a little kids life, a 

905
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,800
little homeless child. 
Yeah, and no one, literally no 

906
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,320
one else has ever saved this 
movie. 

907
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,920
She is the only one who actually
accomplishes her goal of saving 

908
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:33,960
someone. 
And she's. 

909
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,880
Oh sure, the actress is so good,
but. 

910
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,680
Yeah, she's so good. 
I love how you brought up Donald

911
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,920
though, which is the American. 
Good old Donald. 

912
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:49,360
Who is trying just to be heroic 
during the initial onslaught of 

913
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,120
the monster emerging from the 
Han River and just wreaking 

914
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:57,000
havoc along the shoreline? 
And he seemed to have like a 

915
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,600
Korean girlfriend who was like 
Donald. 

916
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,320
Get back here. 
Like stop helping everybody. 

917
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,760
And he had a very American 
spirit. 

918
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:10,560
Like they got it right, Yeah. 
Yeah, within the face of danger,

919
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,920
doing something stupid. 
But heroically, that's like the 

920
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:18,200
very American ideal, yeah. 
But it's also the very that's 

921
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,560
the person who would have been 
the main lead of the film. 

922
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,800
Absolutely. 
Like the American? 

923
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,640
Version of this movie. 
Yeah, would be. 

924
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,040
They're gonna be the. 
Yeah, the a muscle guy that can 

925
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,520
like throw things, like really 
heavy things. 

926
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:32,560
Has an idea. 
It's the. 

927
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:37,080
One to like stop and actually do
things and not just like run 

928
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,640
screaming around. 
But he nearly dies a hero. 

929
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:46,160
He gets gobbled up by the 
monster, loses an arm, gets 

930
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:51,680
treatment at the US Army camp. 
Is patient 0 for this quote UN 

931
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,640
quote virus fake virus? 
It's a fake virus. 

932
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,720
It's not a creature, it's a 
virus. 

933
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,680
It's a virus. 
What I loved about that is I'm 

934
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,320
like, so that's like a severe 
allergic reaction to chemicals. 

935
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:10,800
Like that's not a virus, but 
like, OK, I put two in two 

936
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,640
together. 
That man has like, chemical 

937
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:19,280
burns and like, good job. 
It's formaldehyde. 

938
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,800
Yeah, like he got his arm bitten
off and then was in the Han 

939
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,080
River, which is not the world's 
cleanest river. 

940
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,000
No. 
OK. 

941
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,040
This man was dying of like 
toxic. 

942
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:35,360
He also got spit by a creature 
that was created by that. 

943
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,720
Yeah. 
So like, and it's bangs. 

944
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:38,920
It's just poison. 
This is. 

945
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,960
Yeah, this is. 
Like chemical poisoning, right? 

946
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,560
That's what this is. 
But you know, I, I understand 

947
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,720
like because I feel like a lot 
of people who weren't really 

948
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:52,040
watching it the movie that 
closely or like perhaps didn't 

949
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,800
have any conception of like the 
relationship between the US 

950
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,120
military and Korea would be 
like, why would they make up 

951
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,840
this fake virus? 
Like that doesn't make sense, 

952
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,040
but it actually does because 
they're trying to be like, it 

953
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,640
wasn't the formaldehyde. 
We didn't do this. 

954
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,480
Not this. 
Nope, not a. 

955
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,840
Furious Virus did this. 
Not us. 

956
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,520
You can hide A lot with the 
virus. 

957
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,400
And so and so we're gonna bomb 
it contagious out of existence, 

958
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:27,200
which is also a very American. 
I'm, you'll listen, I know I 

959
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,640
sound real quick. 
Listen, my mom's American, but 

960
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,160
I'm Canadian, so I'm gonna say 
it. 

961
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:36,560
That's a very American response 
to a problem is to bomb the 

962
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,520
problem out of it. 
But like, you know, I just 

963
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,760
thought it was very clever the 
way that they connected this and

964
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,960
then. 
But everyone knows all of these 

965
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,320
scientists when they have, you 
know, like the main dude, like 

966
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,840
if they're doing experiments, 
they all know it's bullshit. 

967
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,080
Yeah. 
That's the crazy part, is that. 

968
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,840
And well, the other thing is it 
seems like all of the Korean 

969
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:03,000
scientists don't know. 
Yeah, because they're not. 

970
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,680
They're lying. 
They're lying to the entire 

971
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,560
country. 
But yeah, I love when Stone 

972
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,560
Congo figures I'm skipping to 
the end a little bit. 

973
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:17,440
But when he hears no virus and 
he figures it out and puts two 

974
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,640
and two together, and then the 
doctor, the American doctor, is 

975
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,320
like, why don't we just, like, 
lobotomize him? 

976
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,440
And I've been like he. 
Won't know. 

977
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,240
But like, he barely knows 
anything to begin with. 

978
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,280
I don't know. 
A lobotomy would have changed 

979
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,160
too much about this guy. 
I did, I did. 

980
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,560
I did enjoy his escape. 
Oh my. 

981
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,600
Where he just does the syringe 
of his own blood. 

982
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,120
He's like, I'll squeeze it after
he was. 

983
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:44,800
Like I said, everybody looking. 
At just. 

984
00:50:45,240 --> 00:50:49,040
Syringe of blood and they're 
like, it was so great so. 

985
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:53,040
Just like the energy of this is 
just so just frantic and 

986
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,800
ridiculous. 
And he's great. 

987
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,520
He's like, get on the floor, 
Fatty, you too like get on the 

988
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,640
like just his whole escape was 
great. 

989
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,280
The amount of clarity that he 
had after the lobotomy was just.

990
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,880
Yeah, chefs get wiped away. 
All the previous issues that he 

991
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:14,440
was dealing with. 
Just I just, I just thought 

992
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,080
there's so many just like small 
things in this movie that 

993
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,800
combined together to be just so 
clever, like. 

994
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,360
But only if you already know 
some of the background. 

995
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,640
Like, I feel like a lot of 
people who are unfamiliar with 

996
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:35,080
the history of the region may 
not quite get as much from it as

997
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,680
other people would. 
Yeah. 

998
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,320
It's just, it's a good. 
It's. 

999
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,160
Yeah, it's good. 
Yeah. 

1000
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,800
And and as we said, it's like 
the plot is very minimal. 

1001
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,600
So like, we can't even spoil 
that much plot because. 

1002
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,080
You know the family, it's just 
to they escape quarantine and 

1003
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,200
they go for the kid like they 
get. 

1004
00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:56,640
Honestly, it's just like watch a
loving family be loving in their

1005
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:00,560
own dysfunctional yeah. 
Yeah. 

1006
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,200
Like they're, you know, it's 
good and it has like a sort of 

1007
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:09,880
bittersweet ending to it that's 
just sort of, oh God, I feel 

1008
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:14,760
like perhaps would be alienating
to people who are seeking a more

1009
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,760
like concrete. 
Absolutely. 

1010
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:22,120
Like satisfying ending, but it 
has a much more like realistic 

1011
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,480
ending. 
Realistic and I also think it 

1012
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:30,520
like in a way gives the daughter
character true hero status in a 

1013
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:31,600
way. 
She. 

1014
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,080
Is the one that is the hero in 
this? 

1015
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:35,600
Yeah. 
Because. 

1016
00:52:35,720 --> 00:52:39,960
And she also helps a kid go on 
because then the dad takes the 

1017
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:44,600
kid in too. 
So now, like it's not for not 

1018
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:50,040
it's someone is now going to be 
able to live and live in a 

1019
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,360
better life than they had 
previously because of what she 

1020
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:59,200
sacrificed. 
Very solid movie that gives 

1021
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,120
everything it promises, it's 
going to give. 

1022
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,400
Like there's it doesn't build up
your expectation and then you're

1023
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,240
like, oh, you're like, listen, 
it's got fire. 

1024
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,320
We've got fire archery. 
We've got going through the 

1025
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,960
sewers. 
We've got you know, we got ooze,

1026
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,880
we got some creepy ooze. 
Like that's always fun, 

1027
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:18,760
everyone. 
Loves to. 

1028
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:23,360
Slime in a creature feeder. 
Like it's got, you know, just 

1029
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,600
sort of a bizarre, you know, I 
like the beginning where there's

1030
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,680
this one scene where this guy's 
committing suicide. 

1031
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:32,640
Well. 
Yeah, and that's something that,

1032
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,960
again, the audiences won't get. 
No. 

1033
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,160
It's a little bit harder, yeah. 
What is this whole thing? 

1034
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:44,680
But it just, it shows like a 
very foreboding shadow, like in 

1035
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,080
the water. 
And that's sort of like, and 

1036
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,320
then it's like, what? 
The promise of that foreboding 

1037
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:56,440
shadow is immediately like 
delivered like 5 minutes later. 

1038
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,720
It's just, it's chef's kiss. 
It's a chef's kiss of a show. 

1039
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,920
Yeah, I would love it if you 
guys would give me your favorite

1040
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,760
part of the movie and the 
scariest part of the movie or 

1041
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:13,560
maybe the most tension filled 
moment in the movie for you guys

1042
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,600
that you've for each of you. 
I mean it can be different for 

1043
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,200
either of you. 
I think my favorite part of the 

1044
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:25,680
movie has to be it's sort of a 
turning of the heroic moment on 

1045
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,160
its head. 
And it is when the the uncle 

1046
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,720
character is throwing the 
Molotov cocktails and for like 

1047
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:40,120
12 seconds he's looking heroic 
as hell and he has his last 

1048
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,720
Molotov and he's like, I'm going
to whip this right at the 

1049
00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:45,800
creature. 
And then he drops it behind him.

1050
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:47,800
And I was just like this 
perfectly. 

1051
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:52,880
Like exemplifies the entire vibe
of this whole movie. 

1052
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:57,320
And then of course, then the 
sister is like size and then 

1053
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,400
lights an arrow on fire and does
what the brother couldn't do. 

1054
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,960
It's really scary. 
The thing is, I don't actually 

1055
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:09,360
find this movie scary. 
Like, I don't, I don't think 

1056
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:14,840
it's a particularly frightening 
movie because of the fact that 

1057
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,040
there's it's just so like, goofy
isn't the right word. 

1058
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,720
It is a little silly it. 
Will say if I'm going to go with

1059
00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:24,960
something scary, I think the 
scary parts are when is the 

1060
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,720
daughter with the monster by 
itself. 

1061
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,240
I think that's like where I 
would say that like if someone 

1062
00:55:30,240 --> 00:55:33,440
were to be scared in this movie,
it's not, especially because she

1063
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,840
is a child and then there's 
another child with her. 

1064
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,920
So like there's that fear of 
what's gonna happen to them. 

1065
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,800
And that is where you see most 
of the gory type parts because 

1066
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:47,000
it's like pieces of bodies after
the, you know, monster has 

1067
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,240
killed things. 
So that's like where the the 

1068
00:55:49,240 --> 00:55:53,000
creepiest part, I think lives in
this. 

1069
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,160
That's like the closest to a 
jump scare that the movie gets, 

1070
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,840
because it doesn't really do 
jump scares. 

1071
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,400
It's just like, no, here you go,
here's the creature. 

1072
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:04,000
Yeah, I agree. 
I'm. 

1073
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,920
Trying to think of like a 
favorite scene. 

1074
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:11,400
I think like when they're 
escaping the quarantine spot, 

1075
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,920
when it's like finally they're 
like, you know what, we're going

1076
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,720
to go find the daughter in 
whatever way she is. 

1077
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,800
Like we're going to hope that 
she is alive, but we're just 

1078
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,360
going to do it. 
And just kind of that like 

1079
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:27,520
ragtag team getting into that 
van and like making their way 

1080
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,000
out. 
I think that's like the the fun.

1081
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,360
It's like the journey begins. 
Here, I mean there's so many 

1082
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:37,080
funny parts of the movie they 
like they forget Bayduna on 

1083
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,800
their escape. 
Yeah, I just be a nap like as 

1084
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,520
they drive around the parking 
lot and she's like. 

1085
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,720
And she's like trying to get it.
Trying to like follow where the 

1086
00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:50,320
car is going, but they're being 
chased by like security people. 

1087
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:55,160
And she's like, come on, man So 
good. 

1088
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,760
She's just and she the best part
about Bethuda in this is that 

1089
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,200
she doesn't really have that 
many lines. 

1090
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,280
Like she doesn't talk a lot but 
she delivers such a just a vibe 

1091
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,080
of a. 
Performance just like she is 

1092
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,320
definitely the sister you. 
Can just tell you're like. 

1093
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,960
This is what this is the only. 
Sister is dealing with yeah. 

1094
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:16,200
She really has her little, like,
niece as the only other female 

1095
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,760
in the family. 
And it's mostly like males. 

1096
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,520
And she's like, this is how it's
been my entire life. 

1097
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,400
I think for me it's a couple of 
moments. 

1098
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:29,760
I really like their when they 
break into the quarantine area, 

1099
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,840
not quarantine area, but like 
it's that cordoned off area by 

1100
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,280
the river and they can't go near
it. 

1101
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:38,400
And the dad spends an obscene 
amount of money, all of his life

1102
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,920
savings, basically getting 
hustled into buying one of the 

1103
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:48,240
decontamination vehicles, some 
hazmat suits that are not the 

1104
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,960
right color. 
They're not high viz and like 

1105
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,480
two or three shotguns, I think, 
or something like that. 

1106
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:55,840
Maybe a couple of rifles I 
think. 

1107
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,160
And that's it. 
Like 11 grand for the whole 

1108
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:04,240
escape, everything, all of that 
stuff and them getting in. 

1109
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,560
It was so easy. 
Yeah. 

1110
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:08,720
And then they come. 
Up on these do any of. 

1111
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,480
That no, they didn't have to 
shoot anybody. 

1112
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,360
They'd have to run any 
barricades. 

1113
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,120
They didn't have to anything. 
They just come up against one 

1114
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:17,680
guy who's like, yeah, I'm the 
chief of stone. 

1115
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:22,320
So it's kind of like a sleazy 
looking guy and then they pay 

1116
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:26,200
him off with the the ramen cup 
full of coins. 

1117
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,760
And then just. 
Drive off and you expect there's

1118
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,400
to be some consequences for them
just driving. 

1119
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,920
Nothing ever happens, nothing 
ever comes of it. 

1120
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,000
They're just, they just get in 
so easy. 

1121
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,480
It's so funny. 
So I love that part. 

1122
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:42,720
I love when they leave Bayduna. 
The everything about like those 

1123
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,680
little moments that those little
pockets of comedy. 

1124
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,600
Love it. 
There's this one quiet moment 

1125
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,280
that I remember on this wash and
I was like, oh, this is so 

1126
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,520
interesting that he took the 
time to do this. 

1127
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,760
And it was they had just been 
searching through the sewer 

1128
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,200
system for her. 
They have had no luck. 

1129
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,120
And they go to that shipping 
container full of food, which I 

1130
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:07,360
guess is like to a stock 
container for all of those food 

1131
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,120
stalls that are on the Han 
River. 

1132
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,240
And so they go inside and 
they're they're starving. 

1133
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,520
So they start eating ramen. 
They start breaking open some 

1134
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,720
snacks and stuff and they're 
sitting there. 

1135
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,760
And then all of a sudden the 
girl is it. 

1136
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,920
The daughter pops up behind them
and starts eating the Keem Bob 

1137
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,280
starts eating the food and they 
start feeding her. 

1138
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:30,960
And it was such a quiet, 
interesting moment to represent 

1139
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,920
that the family loves her. 
They're thinking of her. 

1140
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:38,000
They want to feed her. 
They're so caring of her. 

1141
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,280
Yeah. 
And she's like, they are in 

1142
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:41,840
spirit. 
They want to feed her. 

1143
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,320
It's, it's very, you know, 
Koreans when they say hello, 

1144
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,240
they're like, have you eaten? 
And this is like a one of those 

1145
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:52,120
things where it's like they know
she hasn't eaten in so long, but

1146
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,120
they're here and they're eating 
and they want to feed her too. 

1147
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:58,400
It was just such a very poetic 
way to express that and put that

1148
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,280
into a visual medium, even 
though obviously she's not 

1149
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:03,680
there. 
She's starving in a pit in 

1150
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,360
sewers so. 
She's starving. 

1151
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,520
Next to a bound of bodies at the
moment but. 

1152
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:10,920
Flesh and bone. 
And. 

1153
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,280
Goo and God knows what. 
Yeah, lots of. 

1154
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,960
Yeah. 
So those were the a few moments 

1155
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,000
that I really enjoyed. 
Yeah. 

1156
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:23,400
The only scary moment was like 
when the creature fakes her out.

1157
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:28,960
Yeah, in the pit, because she's 
trying to escape and it catches 

1158
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:30,920
her mid hair. 
It was like this whole thing, 

1159
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,920
Yeah. 
Yeah, and that was like the 

1160
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,080
closest it got to a jump scare. 
But at that point, you're kind 

1161
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,640
of expecting it. 
Yeah, because I feel like the 

1162
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,720
point of this movie wasn't 
actually to be scary. 

1163
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,240
At all, Yeah. 
Which is, you know, an 

1164
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,400
interesting way to take a 
creature feature, But I feel 

1165
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,680
like sometimes when you're 
watching some creature, maybe 

1166
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,200
some of the less good creature 
features, the more enjoyable as 

1167
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:59,040
versus quality is that when they
try too hard to make them scary,

1168
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,720
they become just goofy and 
you're just like, so he said, 

1169
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,480
why not? 
We just like, we can't have 

1170
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:09,600
terror mixed with the goofiest 
family you've ever seen. 

1171
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,320
Like that doesn't mesh. 
He's like, so it'll be off 

1172
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:17,040
putting like the creatures 
appearance is off putting. 

1173
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:21,480
Like it's, you know, kind of 
gross, you know, but it's never,

1174
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:26,200
he's not leaping out of, you 
know, corners and like, you 

1175
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,560
know, like jump scaring the 
audience and stuff. 

1176
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,840
Like it's just like, yeah, he's,
he's there. 

1177
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,520
Like, I think the only like 
there's only a few moments that 

1178
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,040
are just like suddenly the 
monsters there. 

1179
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,520
It's like when he unfurls from 
like where he's hanging. 

1180
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,280
From the. 
You know, bridge and you know, 

1181
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,480
like the OR you know, appears 
suddenly like in the pit. 

1182
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:48,080
But I don't think that the 
purpose of this film was to be 

1183
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,800
scary. 
I think it was more about the 

1184
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:55,120
social commentary than it was 
about the chills and thrills. 

1185
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:59,720
Wanton evil, like that's so 
overt, it's so in your face. 

1186
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,480
It's coming out in the daytime, 
you can't escape it. 

1187
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,600
That sort of thing is the 
creature that we're dealing 

1188
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:09,920
with, as well as the evil that 
created it, so. 

1189
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,480
Yeah, yeah. 
Because I think like it's 

1190
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,120
really, you know, it's, it's 
interesting in the sense that 

1191
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:19,480
it's very realistic that like 
evil isn't like some maniacal 

1192
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,800
mustache twirling villain tying 
someone to train tracks. 

1193
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:27,120
It's just like people doing 
shit, just banal stuff that 

1194
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,600
people do to make the world a 
worse place. 

1195
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:34,800
And it's just so commonplace 
that, yeah, throwing, you know, 

1196
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:39,280
random chemicals down the sink. 
Yeah, hundreds of bottles of 

1197
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:43,360
formaldehyde will, yeah, 
definitely fuck up your river, 

1198
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:43,880
of course. 
Why? 

1199
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:47,920
Not, you know, like. 
And that's when you see it all 

1200
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,840
the time. 
Like this isn't like a, a random

1201
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,880
person being evil. 
Like corporations are doing it. 

1202
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,720
Yeah, all the time. 
Like governments are doing it 

1203
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,040
all the time. 
And then it's just then it's 

1204
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:02,120
juxtapose that against like the 
average person who doesn't 

1205
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:04,360
actually have any power to stop 
these people from. 

1206
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,840
Doing it and then it's the one 
that's directly impacted by it. 

1207
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,760
Yeah, they're the ones who 
suffer because of what you know,

1208
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:15,160
these people who are untouchable
in the sense of, you know, they 

1209
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,960
have too much power or too much 
prestige or too much influence 

1210
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,000
or whatever. 
They're never the ones who 

1211
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,360
suffer because of their own. 
Actions. 

1212
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:30,640
So it's well, listen, he wasn't 
actually doing anything that 

1213
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,680
bad, OK? 
He was, he was one of us, OK? 

1214
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:39,000
He was just, he was a leader who
wanted, listen, he wanted to pay

1215
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,920
for his education. 
So we joined the Army and ended 

1216
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,640
up in Korea. 
You know, he probably, he 

1217
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,360
probably got seized in high 
school. 

1218
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,240
He didn't know any better. 
You know what I mean? 

1219
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,640
Like, he's just, he had more 
bravery than brains, OK? 

1220
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:58,640
He's one of us. 
He just wanted to help people. 

1221
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,320
Oh man. 
Do you guys have anything else 

1222
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:06,600
you'd like to say about the Host
or any other moments you want to

1223
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,040
discuss about the movie? 
I think when the the grandpa 

1224
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:13,520
dies or the dad dies was the 
moment that I completely forgot 

1225
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,720
about. 
When he, I think the creature 

1226
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,760
like slams him on the concrete 
or something. 

1227
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,800
I was like oh shit, fuck, I 
forgot all about that moment. 

1228
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:23,760
And then. 
He's not allowed to like go up 

1229
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:27,720
and like mourn him the all the 
army stops him too. 

1230
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,600
And it's just like a really sad 
yeah. 

1231
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:35,240
And it's sort of like reflects, 
I think, this idea again, where 

1232
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:38,800
real people don't get a 
superhero ending. 

1233
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,080
Sometimes they get wet. 
Newspaper. 

1234
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:45,520
Yeah, Shrouding they're. 
Put over his face like it's very

1235
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:49,040
real in that way for like a 
movie about like a creature, a 

1236
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:53,360
mutant creature attacking 
people, It's a very it feels 

1237
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:58,360
very real despite it being like 
over the top and these people 

1238
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:02,000
being ridiculous who are in it. 
It's like no, this has like a 

1239
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:08,520
core of like reality to it that 
I think makes it sort of really 

1240
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,240
relatable when you're watching 
it, even though you're like, 

1241
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,320
there's nothing that should be 
relatable in this. 

1242
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,240
It is at the same time, and I 
think that's sort of like speaks

1243
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:21,720
to the genius of and like this 
cast is like a entirety yeah. 

1244
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,160
My only final thought is if you 
haven't watched the host you 

1245
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,440
should go watch it cuz even with
these spoilers it doesn't 

1246
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,000
actually. 
Yeah, you actually just have to 

1247
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,960
watch it. 
And be totally enamored with it,

1248
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:34,760
like. 
And who knows, like, maybe like 

1249
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,360
now knowing, like what happens 
to the girl, it's much more 

1250
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:38,680
approachable. 
Yeah, to it. 

1251
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,120
So you're not like always. 
You're not stressed on the edge.

1252
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:42,840
You know what's gonna happen. 
But. 

1253
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,400
She don't make it. 
She doesn't. 

1254
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,280
I'm sorry she doesn't make it 
because. 

1255
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:51,280
Sometimes they don't make it, 
but the little kid, the little 

1256
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:52,560
little kid. 
The child. 

1257
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:56,080
Don't who got a sweet base of 
Asian yellow? 

1258
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,560
He makes it. 
He makes it, Yeah, because 

1259
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,120
listen, I feel like Asian yellow
was bullshit too. 

1260
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:06,440
I think it was all a pack of 
lies, the whole thing. 

1261
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,680
Lies on lies. 
Lies upon lies upon lies, I'm 

1262
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:14,080
telling you. 
Yes, it's a good movie. 

1263
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,680
That's not a lie. 
That's that's a truth. 

1264
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,200
I would never lie to you, the 
listener. 

1265
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:25,000
That's a good movie. 
Well, if there is nothing else 

1266
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,360
you guys want to say, we are 
going to get out of here and 

1267
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:32,320
continue on our spooky season. 
Jesse has 15 more movies to 

1268
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,960
watch and we have a lot more 
dramas to catch up on before the

1269
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,480
year is out. 
So thank you again for coming 

1270
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,200
on. 
This was so much fun. 

1271
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,720
Where can people find you online
in case they don't know where to

1272
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,280
find certified Nunes? 
Don't know where. 

1273
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:49,440
So passionate to find us. 
We have a website 

1274
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,880
certifiednunes.com you can watch
all our episodes there. 

1275
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:56,760
We also we do our podcasters and
video so you can watch us on 

1276
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,440
YouTube but we're also in audio 
if you prefer the audio things 

1277
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:01,680
we also. 
Do live streams too. 

1278
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,600
Yeah, we do live. 
Streams on YouTube, we have a 

1279
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:07,120
good time there. 
We're always at certified nunas 

1280
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:11,360
everywhere but if you want to 
find me I'm at Soju under score 

1281
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:16,480
nights on Twitter. 
That's where I mostly live and I

1282
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:20,080
just post nonsense there so but 
love chatting with people. 

1283
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:23,600
You know how it be. 
Yeah, and for me, I am at wine 

1284
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:27,280
and AK. 
Drama everywhere, even a website

1285
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:28,280
too. 
I have a blog. 

1286
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,680
So very nice you. 
Can catch up on all those movies

1287
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:32,200
that she's. 
Doing. 

1288
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,280
Yeah, guys. 
I can't wait. 

1289
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,160
I can't wait to hear like the 
final verdict on all of it. 

1290
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,600
Yes. 
What an undertaking. 

1291
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:45,240
Oh my gosh. 
OK, thanks again. 

1292
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,080
This is fun. 
Thank you, Bong Joon Ho for 

1293
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,520
creating the host. 
And that's it, that's our show. 

1294
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,760
I'm Jessica and this has been 
the Teba K Rambo's podcast. 

1295
01:08:40,359 --> 01:08:40,439
The.