1 00:00:18,780 --> 00:00:21,580 I'm Jessica and this is Taba K Rambles, where a couple of 2 00:00:21,580 --> 00:00:24,340 friends review Korean dramas and we're back. 3 00:00:24,580 --> 00:00:27,700 We're back with AK Drama. For this episode, I am joined by 4 00:00:27,700 --> 00:00:31,180 Liliana from TN Soju Asian Drama podcast. 5 00:00:31,180 --> 00:00:34,960 How are you, Liliana? I'm doing well, thank you. 6 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,240 I'm very excited for this drama because this has been on my list 7 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,680 for a long time, so I'm really, really excited for us to talk 8 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:46,120 about it. Yes, we're missing Caitlin, our 9 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:50,360 third drama trio, but we'll be back together soon. 10 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,400 It feels a little weird to be here without her, but we we miss 11 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,760 her and we're going to soldier on without her. 12 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,800 On this review of It's OK, That's Love. 13 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,400 And like Lillian said, we are really excited, like super 14 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:08,040 excited to cover this one. I have been wanting to talk 15 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,960 about It's OK That's Love on the podcast for like ever. 16 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:14,680 Like I it's been like a season or two that I've really wanted 17 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,280 to cover it. I was going to do it last 18 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,120 season. It kind of fell through and I 19 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,600 asked you if you wanted to do it to cover it. 20 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,200 I know that you haven't really watched some older K dramas. 21 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,280 This one I haven't is celebrating A10 year 22 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,760 anniversary. It is 10 years old. 23 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,200 And I was like, Lily on our you game. 24 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,960 And you were like, yeah, like, it's been on my watch. 25 00:01:37,960 --> 00:01:41,760 List for a really long time, so. So I was like, Oh my God, 26 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,320 perfect. So we watched it and we are 27 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:49,560 going to deep dive on It's OK that's love on this episode. 28 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,680 Liliana, what is what do you like you watching this week? 29 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,560 Like what's in your besides it's OK that's love. 30 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,000 Like what did you watch this week? 31 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:02,640 So I've been catching up on love next door, the Jung he and Jung 32 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,280 swimming drama. I'm really enjoying it. 33 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:11,320 Like I I'm a little bit behind just because TN soldier is on a 34 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:16,240 break and I think, I think I I took a break even from watching 35 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,640 anything. So like last week I've not 36 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:23,120 watched a lot, but I'm going to catch up with it this weekend. 37 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,360 I'm going to have like all the episodes and I'm going to be 38 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,240 caught up with it, but I'm really enjoying Love Next Door. 39 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,120 What about for Chinese dramas? I think I have to break. 40 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:37,640 Oh, I'm watching the Are You the 1A Chinese drama and that is 41 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:42,560 basically about an assassin that falls in love, not falls in 42 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:47,360 love. She basically gets injured and 43 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,280 forgets all of her, like her memories. 44 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,960 And then when she wakes up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 45 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,800 I'm still watching that one. But I'm going to wrap it up this 46 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,560 weekend because that's finished now and it's been done for about 47 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,600 a week. So I'm going to finish up that 48 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,000 one this weekend as well. I'm watching the story of 49 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,720 Minglon, which is just like. That'll take you. 50 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,720 That'll take me a minute. I'm re watching ashes of love 51 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:20,760 which my God I'm already like for reasons for reasons but my 52 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:26,240 goodness I as of now I've watched like 8 episodes already 53 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,440 and I'm just just binging through these and I'm just like. 54 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,840 God, it's so easy. Like when you hit those, those 55 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,640 are the best dramas. When you're, you're just like, I 56 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:41,480 can't get myself to stop. Those are the best dramas. 57 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,520 Yeah, yeah, I was. I'm not going to lie. 58 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,080 I was petrified to go back to Ashes of Love. 59 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,040 I mean, it was my first Asian drama ever. 60 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,880 It is really, really special. And I was like, I am petrified 61 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:58,120 if I go back in and this is not as good as I remember. 62 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,160 But so far I'm just like, I'm loving it. 63 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:07,280 And I'm like seeing it with such different eyes this time around. 64 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,640 And it's been a really fun experience so far. 65 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,840 And then I'm just watching a Japanese drama, which is called 66 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,240 Where the Sea Begins. And my God, this drama has my 67 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:23,000 whole heart. I'm like, I love it so much to 68 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,400 the point where I think it may make it into like my best dramas 69 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,720 of 2024 just because I adore it that much. 70 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,160 It's about it's, I don't think there's not a lot of people 71 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,920 talking about it, which is also interesting. 72 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,560 I hear nobody talking about it. It's a beautiful story of people 73 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,040 like connecting and whatnot. It's like it's brilliant. 74 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,040 So that's that's what I'm watching right now. 75 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,720 So yeah, I think that one's probably one of my favorites 76 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,600 that I'm watching. All right. 77 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,440 Well, thank you so much for sharing what you're currently 78 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,000 watching. I am basically not watching 79 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,480 anything. I I basically was binging this 80 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:08,240 show that we, well, we watching it and binging it this week in 81 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,920 preparation for this podcast. I binge it in the span of three 82 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:18,440 days. So yeah, my pace was 4 1/2 83 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,360 episodes a day. A day. 84 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:26,200 A day, 4 1/2 episodes I had to get through every day and I was 85 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:31,360 watching it at 1.25 speed, which isn't really that much of A like 86 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,160 speed up. No, no, no, no. 87 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,400 Yeah. No, it's not. 88 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,200 It's. Not just a little, it's just a 89 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,760 little touch of a of a. Especially with like old Korean 90 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,600 dramas, and I find this with both old Korean dramas, at old 91 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,440 Chinese dramas, they speak really slowly and there's like 92 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,840 really long pauses between people talking, at least like 93 00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:55,160 this is very common in Chinese dramas, I think older Chinese 94 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,960 dramas. So if you speed it up a little 95 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,640 bit, it just feels like it. It makes no difference. 96 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,640 It just feels better. Natural rhythm. 97 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,480 Exactly. But I did it out of necessity 98 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,240 because I was like, let me cut like a couple of minutes off of 99 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,240 these episodes, yeah. Yeah, yeah, we just. 100 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,240 Need to get through it faster. 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I am going to start with the My 121 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:21,680 drama synopsis work through the director, writer, cast and we'll 122 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:22,960 get into the non spoiler section. 123 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,640 Didn't give us our general thoughts. 124 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,560 Then we'll get into our soilery thoughts. 125 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:32,160 Maybe some surprises along the way because I have a couple of 126 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,000 notes that I wanted to bring. U OK? 127 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,000 My drama was synopsis. Despite being a bit of a prickly 128 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,920 pear, Deng Jayol has become famous for authoring mystery 129 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,200 novels and for hosting a popular radio show. 130 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,520 While sitting on a talk show panel with psychiatrist Jesus, 131 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,320 it became clear to all that the two just rubbed each other the 132 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,720 wrong way. The unthinkable happens when 133 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:59,120 Tayol's girlfriend plagiarizes his work, forcing him to lie low 134 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,720 until the media storm blows over. 135 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,360 Only then he can prove his innocence. 136 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,080 Jayol moves into a house he owns but rents out. 137 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,840 One of the current tenants. Is none other than Jesus, 138 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,560 unwittingly making them housemates. 139 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,600 So we get 2 tropes here. Enemies to lovers. 140 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,200 We got cohabitation. Yeah. 141 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,280 Add to the mix to Dong Min Jesus, senior colleague and 142 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,600 fellow psychiatrist, and Park Sue Kwang, a young man with 143 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,280 Tourette's syndrome. As personalities clash, Tail and 144 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,960 Hesu help the other heal from deeply rooted emotional scars. 145 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:39,000 All right, so this show aired from July to September 2014. 146 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,280 As I said, we are celebrating its 10th anniversary. 147 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,440 Happy birthday to It's OK, that's love. 148 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,800 It is September when we are recording this and it is 149 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,800 September when this will be aired as well. 150 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:55,200 So 16 episodes long, the standard 16 from back then. 151 00:08:55,560 --> 00:08:59,720 Kim Kyutai is the director. I just actually covered another 152 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,880 Kim Kyutai drama, Our Blues from 2022. 153 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:08,040 This director, I really, really like this director. 154 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,000 He's got some wins under his belt. 155 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,080 Like I said in the R Blues episode, he's done live from 156 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,320 2018, Moon Lover, Scarlet Heart Rio, which is another episode. 157 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,520 You can scroll back in your podcast feed and listen to that 158 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,200 one. That was a swerve Secret love 159 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,160 That winter the wind blows. Also with Joy and sung and 160 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,440 Songhekio. This director won best director 161 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,400 at the 49th Beck Song Awards with that drama That Winter the 162 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,280 wind blows. Padam Padam Iris worlds within a 163 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,160 love to kill. He's been in the game for a very 164 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:43,600 long time, basically 20 years. This drama is written by Nohi 165 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,640 Kyung, the writer from Our Blues Again. 166 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,600 So this this is a a writing and directing partnership. 167 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,400 They've done a few dramas together, including, you know, 168 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,000 Our Blues and It's OK That's love. 169 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,320 They've done live together, Padam padam worlds within that 170 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,120 winter the wind blows. They tend to work well together. 171 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,720 As you can see this screenwriter. 172 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:11,840 No Hi Kyung. She won best screenplay for Dear 173 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,280 My Friends at the 53rd Beck Song Awards. 174 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,160 So they are both, you know, highly regarded showrunners, you 175 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:23,400 know, So the cast. Cho and Sung plays Zhang Jiyol. 176 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:28,240 He's the male lead. He's obviously been in a lot of 177 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:32,120 things that people recognize. He's a household name. 178 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:37,560 He might not have as many things like the number, the quantity of 179 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:42,840 things is not that many, 11 movies, 11 TV shows, but they 180 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,360 are, they're in the zeitgeist. How? 181 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,080 I don't know how else to put it like they. 182 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,280 Yes. Really recognizable movies and 183 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:58,520 TV shows that are formative for people in Korea, formative for 184 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,280 people in the international audience of K dramas as well. 185 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,560 I think he's a star. Like to me, he's like a major 186 00:11:06,560 --> 00:11:11,440 star at I love him and I think you recently saw him Liliana in 187 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:12,960 moving because you. Were. 188 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,520 Watching Moving Finally, yeah. Yeah, yeah. 189 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:22,040 So it's kind of funny story, but I was actually just coming up to 190 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,440 finishing moving while I was watching this as well. 191 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:32,160 And it was a lot of fun to see the roles because it's night and 192 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,400 day. They are two very different 193 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,800 roles. And I was like, this actor has 194 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,160 demonstrated that he has range and he's really good at doing 195 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,560 different things. So I, I'm kind of glad that 196 00:11:45,560 --> 00:11:48,720 that's how it worked out actually, because I hadn't seen 197 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,040 him and anything else before. I don't think so it worked out 198 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,920 really well that I just happened to be watching two dramas where 199 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,360 he, you know, was in both of them. 200 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:02,520 And I, you know, I kind of got to see what he was all about in 201 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,760 that sense. Yeah, yeah. 202 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,160 The significance of him cannot be understated. 203 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:13,040 I'll also, I have to say this, I have still been scarred by 204 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:17,640 something happened in Bali, which from 22,000 and four I, I 205 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:25,960 say this every time it's, it's hard to imagine unless you were 206 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,520 there or it's not that I was there in 2004 when this 207 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,480 happened. But yeah, I came into the show 208 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:37,600 blind, not knowing the vibe, the, the, the way it was going 209 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,280 to shake out or anything. And it's it's a it was a totally 210 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:46,160 different experience to how people watch K dramas now, which 211 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:51,200 is this group watch element this, you know, you theorize 212 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,480 with people, you talk about it. If you don't catch an episode, 213 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:59,800 you get spoiled online. And that was not how I watched 214 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:03,200 something happened in Bali. I watched it based off of a 215 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,160 friend recommendation. Obviously, Miguel, if people 216 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,240 have heard previous episodes where I've talked about this, 217 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,400 Miguel, I was like, you got to watch this show. 218 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,680 It's so good. You're going to your life is 219 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:15,720 going to be changed. All this stuff recommended. 220 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,040 Something happened in Bali from O 4 and I was like, Oh my God, 221 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,280 really? OK, Bet I watch it. 222 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,280 I was flabbergasted. I was like shocked. 223 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,760 It was like going, it was like, I don't know how else, but it 224 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,200 was like walking in to maybe go see Disney on Ice. 225 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,560 You think you're going to see Disney on Ice and it's like a 226 00:13:35,560 --> 00:13:38,000 cabaret show. Like you're like, well, I 227 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,160 thought like, you know, it was that feeling. 228 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:48,040 Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're just shocked I always 229 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,080 have to mention it. Anyway, there is an episode on 230 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,480 moving if you want to scroll back in your podcast. 231 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,480 If you didn't listen to it. I think it's one of the best 232 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:00,120 shows of 2023. OK his Co star and it's OK 233 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:05,280 that's love Kong Hyojin. I fucking love Kong Hyojin. 234 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:11,480 I think she is one of the best actresses in K drama land and 235 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:16,080 people that started watching K dramas like during the pandemic 236 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,160 don't know. Who she is, they don't know who 237 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:19,360 she is. They don't know her. 238 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,440 And I'm like, put some respect on her name. 239 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:26,360 That's how I feel, truly. She plays, you know, our female 240 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,880 lead in this show, Jesus. And she's been in about 23 241 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,160 movies. She's been in shows like When 242 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:38,320 the Camellia Blooms from 2019, The Masters Son from 2313 with 243 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,600 Soji, sub pasta biscuit teacher and Star candy. 244 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:46,680 And I have to, I have to say, I am so excited for whenever this 245 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,160 show drops. When the Stars Gossip is the 246 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:54,120 current title of it, it's with Lee Min Ho or Immano. 247 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:59,280 She plays an astronaut and he plays a gynecologist and the 248 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:00,680 whole. Thing is talking about this. 249 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,120 Oh my, it's like a sci-fi romance or something. 250 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,200 I'm like fucking there like I am so there. 251 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:13,680 It's insane so. You know, I'm not even a Imman 252 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,960 Ho fan, but I was like this. I I just need to check this out 253 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:23,440 because it just sounds, you know, it sounds so different. 254 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,560 It sounds wild. I'm like, I just need to and 255 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,640 I'll, I'll gladly like even if I'm not his biggest fan, I'll 256 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,120 gladly go in for this actress because she tends to deliver. 257 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,560 So I I'll more than happily go in like to watch. 258 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,200 What she? Puts right and so. 259 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,560 You like? I did, I did. 260 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,880 And funnily enough, I had watched The Master's Son before 261 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:53,760 and I was like, it's OK. But I don't think her role does 262 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,840 a lot of justice to her in like the Master Son. 263 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,320 She's very like almost drab in that, no, I don't know if drab's 264 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,840 the right word, but she's very, I don't know, she's sleep. 265 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,800 Deprived. Yeah, exactly. 266 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,440 I mean, it's a different character. 267 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,640 Yeah, see, But I understand what you're saying. 268 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:20,240 She's muted. So in this one, in this one I 269 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:21,480 got she's so. Fun. 270 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,320 Like I remember her being very fun in that show. 271 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,720 Anyway, talk to me about her in this show. 272 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:32,000 So I liked her way more in this one because it's like you get to 273 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,480 see a different side to her. Not only is she she's quite 274 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,480 smart in this. She plays, I mean she plays a 275 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,200 psychologist. So you know, she obviously is 276 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,920 going to be a smart character in terms of that. 277 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,680 At least she can be a little bit. 278 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:54,240 She's sassy and she's fun and she's I don't know, I liked her 279 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,680 character in this one. Probably I probably liked her 280 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,920 weigh more in this than I did in the master son. 281 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,319 But like the master son, I liked it, but it wasn't like a show 282 00:17:04,319 --> 00:17:09,440 that I loved, if that makes sense, Whereas this one, I 283 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,960 really, really liked this one. So I was like this one if 284 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:18,119 people, I was kind of thinking people always hype up this show 285 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,960 like it's OK, that's love. And I'm like, do you know what 286 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,880 hype it? I I think it deserves the hype 287 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,280 that it gets. So, you know, whereas with the 288 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,800 master son, whereas with the master son, I'm like, I don't 289 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,000 quite get the hype, if that makes sense. 290 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:39,640 So I think that's why I liked her weigh more in this role. 291 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,680 Oh nice. Oh my God I love that. 292 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:48,200 OK, so we do have some supporting cast members that are 293 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,840 recognizable people names of their own. 294 00:17:51,120 --> 00:17:55,560 Sung Dong Yiel plays Dong Min. I called him Sung Be Dock some 295 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,920 of the doc in my notes. He said in like 40 movies 296 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:02,880 including Miss granny, midnight runners, great battle, the 297 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,280 pirates, last royal treasure, 48 TV shows. 298 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:12,160 What hasn't he been in the entire reply series including 299 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:16,040 Moon Lovers, Scarlet Heart, Rio, Legend of the Blue Sea, Wadong 300 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:21,360 Prison Playbook, Miss Hammer, Robbie, Liv, GD, San Sisyphus, 301 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,400 most recently If you wish upon me in my sweet mobster. 302 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,640 I mean he's been in the game for like 20 years. 303 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,240 He was in Lovers in Paris in 04. Iconic. 304 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,760 So you've definitely seen this guy. 305 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,840 He's been everywhere. He's been everywhere. 306 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:41,480 Ekwang SU plays SU Kwang, the guy with Tourette's syndrome. 307 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,440 I just call him running man. Running man, Yeah, he just has 308 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:46,920 been. In Running, he was in Running 309 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:52,120 Man for 11 years. So he's Running Man in my notes. 310 00:18:52,360 --> 00:18:56,160 He's been in 14 movies, including the same movie as 311 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,240 before, Pirates, The Last Royal Treasure. 312 00:18:58,240 --> 00:18:59,480 I feel like everybody was in that one. 313 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,480 I feel like it employed half of Korea anyway, 22 TV shows, 314 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,920 including most recently The Killer's shopping lists, and he 315 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,480 was in live as well. Sound of Your Heart, Entourage, 316 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,520 Innocent Man from 2012, which is a really good show. 317 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,840 City Hunter from 2011. Yes, and Dong Yi. 318 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:24,480 Films 2010 he's been. Yeah, he has done a lot of cameo 319 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,640 work as well. I just didn't include that in 320 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:32,000 his filmography that I've wanted to mention because if you see 321 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,320 him pop up as like a big character in an episode or two, 322 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,840 that's also why his filmography is so long. 323 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,360 When you when you see him. I think we have two more people. 324 00:19:40,360 --> 00:19:41,760 No, three more people. Jin Yong. 325 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:46,480 Jin Kyong plays Yongjin. She is the female psychiatrist 326 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,440 in the friends group. She used to be married to Sonbe. 327 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:56,560 Doc for My Notes, 32 movies, 34 TV shows. 328 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,080 Most recently the story of Park's marriage contract, My 329 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:03,200 Lovely Liar, all the doctor romantics, a ton of things. 330 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,480 She's been in so many things. E Song Kyung plays Sonia. 331 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:12,560 This was her first role ever. This is the E Song Kyung from 332 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,000 Weightlifting Fairy. Kimbok Chu. 333 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,680 This is Kimbok Chu herself. It is. 334 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,480 In her very first acting role ever. 335 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,000 You know she's been in She's in the Trap While You Were Sleeping 336 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,280 as a cameo. What did you this? 337 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,680 This was her first acting role ever. 338 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,880 What did you think about Issan Kyung? 339 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:33,600 This character reminded me a little bit of her character from 340 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,360 Weightlifting Book 2. Really. 341 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:41,200 Really. But like more on the female 342 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,280 side, if that makes sense, because like what Drew is very 343 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:49,440 because of the sport she plays and whatnot, she tends to be not 344 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,080 as feminine, if that makes sense. 345 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,400 And I think in this one, but I liked her. 346 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,520 I think like for a first role she did fairly good. 347 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:02,560 For a first role she didn't have a lot to do, but I think her 348 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,760 character overall wasn't that bad for a first role. 349 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,040 So I think, I think she did OK. Yeah, I think she did pretty 350 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,920 good. I don't think I would ever 351 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:16,400 necessarily guess that it's her first role or I would. 352 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:21,480 I guess that she would go on to be such a big star also, like 353 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:26,480 from the same show. I thought that her character in 354 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,040 It's OK That's Love was giving a lot of what she gave, and she's 355 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:34,640 in the trap, which was like this neurotic, yeah, energy and 356 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:40,080 selfish, bratty person. Yeah, that's what she was giving 357 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:44,200 in this show. But anyway, yeah, do Kyung Soo. 358 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:50,960 Also in this show, AKA Dio from EXO, he plays Kong Wu. 359 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,800 This is the most awesome. He's a baby. 360 00:21:57,360 --> 00:21:59,400 He's just a little baby. Yeah. 361 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:05,320 This is his first role ever. Also, he's since been in nine 362 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,880 movies. He's been in four TV shows of 363 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:13,560 relatively small filmography for, I think, such an excellent 364 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,640 Idol actor. He's so good. 365 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,320 He needs to be. I feel like he could do, he 366 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:24,360 could become a really good like household name in the acting 367 00:22:24,360 --> 00:22:27,960 industry because he has the chops to do it. 368 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,960 Like he has the talent to do it, He really does. 369 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:38,320 And so I wish, I wish he would lean into the acting career a 370 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,280 bit more. And I can't believe this was his 371 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,120 first role and he's only got 4 TV shows under his belt. 372 00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:47,000 That's wild. To me, I mean, not counting the 373 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,720 first that I think it was to the beautiful you in which Exo 374 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,200 appears in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 375 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,080 Yeah. And that I didn't count that. 376 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,560 I'm like that's. Not no, no. 377 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,280 Anyway. Well, I was just going to say 378 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,680 when he came on screen, I was like, Oh my God, he looks like a 379 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:10,800 baby because I know him from like 100 days my Prince and like 380 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,960 old like from what he looks like now, like I really, I don't 381 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,960 think I've watched him in anything else but 100 days my 382 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,080 Prince. And I was like, he came on. 383 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,480 He was like, oh, he looks like a dad. 384 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,240 So precious. Yeah, yeah. 385 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:33,120 So that's our cast, pretty big, but it's an ensemble cast. 386 00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:41,400 This is a bit of a found family show as well, but I think I know 387 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,360 the answer to this. But what do you how did you feel 388 00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:46,840 about this show? How did you think it went? 389 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:52,680 I really, really, really liked it and I think it reminded me of 390 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,920 why I like K dramas. I like and I always say, I think 391 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,600 K dramas can do this type of show really well. 392 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:05,200 Like this is the type of K drama that I fall in love with time 393 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,720 and time again. And unfortunately, I don't think 394 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:15,200 we've seen much of it lately, But I this, like I said, this 395 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,360 had been on my to watch list for ages. 396 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:22,720 Everybody takes it as like a really, really good drama. 397 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,480 And I've been burned so many times with people saying, you 398 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,920 know, this, this is a great classic drama, you know? 399 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,680 And I'm like, OK, yeah, OK. But I went in and I was like, 400 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,720 I'm going to keep a very open mind. 401 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,040 I was worried about a couple of things. 402 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,320 I was worried that because it's an older drama and because of 403 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,680 what it centers around, it centers a lot around mental 404 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,200 health. And I was like, in the dear 405 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:56,040 Lord, year of 2024, they still get mental health problems 406 00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:00,680 really wrong in Korean dramas. And I'm like, how is a 10 year 407 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:06,560 old show gonna do OK with like this type of topic? 408 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:12,120 So I was worried about it. And I don't think actually, for 409 00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:15,760 a show that is 10 years old, I actually think they did an OK 410 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,200 job with it. I think they handled, you know, 411 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,400 a lot of those aspects of the show well. 412 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,040 I think it still stands the test of time. 413 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,480 Like there's nothing there that I would be like, Oh my God, this 414 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:34,800 feels so old and so outdated. It's a 2014 show, but it still 415 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:39,280 translates well in terms of it, you know, being watched in 2024, 416 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,480 ten years later. So that is, I think a real 417 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,400 advantage and a real, it really shows what it's about. 418 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,400 The fact that 10 years later it can still be watched and enjoyed 419 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,040 so much. So overall, I really liked it. 420 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,680 I think there's like literally a couple of things that I wasn't 421 00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:04,040 such a fan of, but we can get into that in the the spoiler 422 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,720 section. But I liked the acting. 423 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,240 I think the acting was so well done here. 424 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:15,440 Yeah, I was mind blown. I the last three episodes I was 425 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,200 crying non-stop. I was like bowling for the last 426 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,360 three episodes, I'm like, Oh my God, this is so good. 427 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:28,960 The emotion that the these actors deliver is just so well 428 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,160 done. Overall. 429 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,160 I just really, really liked it, I think. 430 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,400 I am so glad to hear you say that you enjoyed the show, that 431 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,840 it didn't feel dated for you, that because I think that's a 432 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,680 concern right for anybody. This is a huge reason why I want 433 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:49,160 to cover older dramas is because they don't get the love and 434 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:54,640 appreciation that they deserve. And people, newer K drama fans, 435 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,800 younger K drama fans, are averse to dipping back into this vast 436 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:05,720 well, this library of K dramas and instead just choose to watch 437 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,000 currently airing dramas. And that's fine, except I feel 438 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,520 like you're just missing all of this great content. 439 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,600 You're missing all of these great writing. 440 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,400 You're missing references. Like there's dramas and people 441 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,120 that you're watching now that you don't get the significance 442 00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:21,920 of. You don't know their 443 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,360 filmography. And it's almost to me, like 444 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:31,080 watching a movie with like, I don't know, Ben Affleck now. 445 00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:34,400 And you're like, this movie sucks. 446 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,680 Why is Ben Affleck a thing? Yeah. 447 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,160 OK, slow down. You haven't watched Ben Affleck. 448 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,280 You don't understand. Like Ben Affleck, you have to go 449 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:49,520 back and watch Goodwill Hunting and like all these, you have to 450 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:56,360 get the thing before you can really understand the yeah, this 451 00:27:56,360 --> 00:28:00,200 isn't top tier Ben Affleck, this is sucky Ben Affleck. 452 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,240 But. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 453 00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:04,600 The whole thing of of Ben Affleck and why he's important 454 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,920 and why he's famous is because of all this other stuff, this 455 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,920 foundational things. That's what made him famous, why 456 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:16,800 he's worth watching sometimes. And I think I think as well with 457 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,800 like the older K dramas, realistically speaking, they are 458 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,280 the blueprints for what you watch now. 459 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,960 So it's like you can still see the same track, like you can 460 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:34,840 still see traces of those old K dramas on, you know, the new K 461 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:39,600 dramas that you watch now. Say I, I think it's good to go 462 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,760 back and I will hold my hands because I was very much a person 463 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:48,520 that was a first. I was like, I did not want to go 464 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,720 and watch older dramas. I was like, I don't want to 465 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,080 touch them. I just don't feel like I need 466 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,400 to. But to be fair, I, I think I'd 467 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,520 started, I think the oldest ones I'd kind of watched were like 468 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:03,960 20-15, maybe 2014. Well, now 2014, but I think I've 469 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,240 watched all the stuff now and the beginnings. 470 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:08,840 Yeah. Yeah. 471 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,400 But in in the beginning, because there was none of this, you 472 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,240 know, blown up when I started watching, there was none of 473 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,120 these blown up dramas that there is now that are on air and 474 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,840 that's so easily accessible. I went back and I watched a 475 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,880 whole load of dramas from like especially like 20/16/2016 was a 476 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,120 great Korean drama. Yeah. 477 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,640 And like, so I think going back and watching some of those, it 478 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,080 is also really, really good, especially when K dramas aren't 479 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,440 having the best of times lately, at least for me. 480 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,880 At least for me. Yeah, when there's a dry spell, 481 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:51,360 a drought, it's always nice to be like, oh, right, I have a 20 482 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,040 years of K dramas that I haven't really. 483 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,680 Yeah. Looked at. 484 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,960 Anyway, I'm gonna get off my soapbox now. 485 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,680 So the way that I felt about this drama, it was so great. 486 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,000 Like I love this drama. Re watching it, I was a little 487 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,360 bit afraid that I was going to like it as much and it was going 488 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,240 to lose its Sheen a little bit. But no, no, no, no, no. 489 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:19,840 It was really, really good. And I just think these 490 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:24,120 characters are so well written. They're so strong. 491 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,400 They're so, they're so flawed, right? 492 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,240 They're making weird, funky decisions. 493 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,440 And they're working through these little, you know, they're 494 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,360 having conversations with each other and they're dissecting it 495 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:44,120 in real time. And you're like, oh, that's what 496 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,560 I do. Like, you know, that's how. 497 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,960 You. Go about your life. 498 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,720 They feel human, they feel real to you. 499 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,000 I. Think they have their little 500 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,720 idiosyncrasies right? They tease each other I I don't 501 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:04,280 have words exactly for how real they felt and organic their 502 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,840 relationships felt. I think that probably the 503 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,880 difficulty in the show comes in the fact that it's been 10 years 504 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,720 and we as an audience have a better understanding of mental 505 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,040 health and mental illness than we did 10 years ago. 506 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:25,960 And of the protocols, the medical protocols around such 507 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,040 things, right? There's certain hospital 508 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,280 protocols that I think we're not followed. 509 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,200 Oh yeah. Or just ignored in the show. 510 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,280 And, you know, there's a lot of like conflict of interest things 511 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,440 in the show that wouldn't fly just like don't lie. 512 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,240 And I understand that it's AK drama and they can take creative 513 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,640 liberties with certain things. But I think on the whole, it 514 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,880 nailed like the spirit of mental health and mental illness. 515 00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:01,400 And in portraying these things with a lot of intent, they had 516 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,800 definitions for things popping up on the screen for the 517 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,800 audience and they were taking their time to explain certain 518 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,560 things. And I think we forget that ten 519 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,960 years ago nobody was talking about mental health and mental 520 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,440 illness. No, no, they barely talk about 521 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,640 it now in Asia, so. Nobody was talking about it. 522 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,280 No, back then this was groundbreaking. 523 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:32,720 This was a whole new thing. To do back then was to have 524 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,280 these characters be psychiatrists, right, doctors of 525 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:41,760 the mind, and then to have the plot unfold the way it does, to 526 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,000 have this sort of twist that happens. 527 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,240 I don't know about you, but like, I was the first time I 528 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,920 watched it, that twist. I got got. 529 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,200 I got got. I did not see it coming. 530 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,880 I didn't not see it coming. That was what I was gonna ask 531 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,080 you. Like, I don't wanna spoil it, 532 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,840 but we're just gonna talk about the twist generally right now. 533 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,320 But like when the twist happened the first time I watched it, I 534 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:08,120 was completely taken aback. I shocked this. 535 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,400 I have a friend of mine who lives with me. 536 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,920 I've known her for a really long time. 537 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,840 We went to college together and whatnot. 538 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,560 She loves this drama and she watched it all like she watched 539 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,720 it when it was airing I think or just after it was airing. 540 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,320 So she watched it really long time ago. 541 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,720 She loves that. And I had gone for coffee with 542 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,960 her and I said, I'm finally watching this. 543 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,160 And she got so excited that I was like, watching it and what 544 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,960 not. And then she goes, you'll have 545 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,280 to keep me updated. Like just message me how you're 546 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,080 feeling about it. And when I got to that twist, I 547 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,640 messaged her and I was like, get out of here. 548 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,720 Like this is even happening every time. 549 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,800 Like, how did I not see that coming? 550 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,720 And The thing is, it's so well written. 551 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,520 It is. The clues are all they're there. 552 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,960 On 2nd watch I was like I'm a fucking idiot like you were the 553 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,679 whole time. So I think that just shows how 554 00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:13,480 good it's written and how well it's written. 555 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:19,320 The fact that they layer these little clues for you, You don't 556 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,520 see it you. Literally don't see it like I 557 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,840 again and I was way more familiar than the native Korean 558 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,040 audience on mental health and mental and the and the specific 559 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,400 ones that come into play with A twist back then back when I 560 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:40,239 watched it 10 years ago. But Even so, I did not freaking 561 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,400 see it coming. I got hit by a freight train and 562 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,639 honestly it made the show better. 563 00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:51,120 It did it did it. Truly, the show was great and 564 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,239 then it like took it to another stratosphere. 565 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,880 It was almost like it could happen to anybody. 566 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,600 Like it was it was a very if they kept talking about it 567 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:06,720 throughout the show that like all of us can have issues like 568 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,320 mental health issues and nobody is immune. 569 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,680 They were, I mean, early on in the show they were talking about 570 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,720 if you're a surgeon, does that mean you don't get cancer? 571 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,880 Things like that were very powerful statements to make. 572 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,920 You know, if you're a doctor, do you not get a cold suddenly 573 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,240 because you're treating people that have have colds And that is 574 00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:31,760 not the case at all. And the same goes for mental 575 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:36,480 health and mental illness, like anyone can suffer from these 576 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,920 things and it's OK to get treatment, to seek. 577 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,240 Help. Do you know what I, I think I 578 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,840 first of all, I think I gave this grace because it is 10 579 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:53,520 years old. But even saying that it was, you 580 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,960 know, the fact that they had again, people playing 581 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,600 psychiatrists, but not just that, but they had people 582 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,440 seeking the help of these psychiatrists was a really big 583 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,680 step. I I feel like I want to rewatch 584 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,440 it because I feel like it would be the perfect follow up show to 585 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,920 what after watching this one. It would be daily dose of 586 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,720 sunshine. I knew you were going to bring 587 00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:18,000 this. Up very similar, but it's that 588 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,840 it is, though. It's so similar. 589 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,400 You take away the romance because there's not really a lot 590 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,120 of romance in Daily Dose of Sunshine. 591 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:30,400 There is some, but it's so like comparable to like these two 592 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,800 shows are so comparable in terms of like what they deal with, but 593 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:40,200 it's like Daily Dose of Sunshine is a 20/24/23 updated version of 594 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,720 it, if that makes sense. Right, right. 595 00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:47,920 Even even saying that the you know, it's OK that's love still 596 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,920 stands on its own and still like 10 years later it. 597 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,120 Feels current. It feels relevant. 598 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,240 Exactly, exactly, exactly so and I would say. 599 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,200 You wouldn't have shows like. Daily dose of sunshine. 600 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,280 Daily Dose of Sunshine. Yeah. 601 00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:05,040 If it wasn't for shows like It's OK, That's Love. 602 00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:07,000 Exactly. Breaking ground. 603 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,600 And I saw this article from the Korea Herald, from the director. 604 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,280 It was a little interview with the director talking about why 605 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:18,840 it's this is such a necessary drama regarding its message to 606 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,840 society. And I'll read a little bit of 607 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,680 it. It was at the premiere in Seoul, 608 00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:26,840 he admitted that some of the socially awakening ideas 609 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,780 embedded in It's Okay that's love could appear heavy quote UN 610 00:37:30,780 --> 00:37:35,160 quote and unfamiliar UN quote UN quote to the audience, but 611 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,320 dramas with social messages should not be shunned, he 612 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,120 alleges. This is his quote. 613 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,640 I think it the show is a necessary drama. 614 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,360 I am sorry that some dramas with social messages have been 615 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,560 shunned. Both the writer and I tried to 616 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,040 pay much attention to have the message delivered more 617 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,000 effectively. Fun and comfortable the drama 618 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,440 contained. This is not his quote. 619 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,640 The drama contains both ROM com plots and character development, 620 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,560 and addresses the discrimination of minorities such as mentally 621 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,720 ill people, criminals and emotionally ailing people. 622 00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:09,440 Some scenes include Konko Jin, the psychiatrist, bathing her 623 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,600 physically and mentally impaired father or being attacked by 624 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,840 psychologically disoriented patients. 625 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,880 A confined murderer with mental disorder also appears in the 626 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,280 drama. In such context, the director 627 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,400 has underscored the fact that the drama breaks away from the 628 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,000 traditional genre of a medical ROM com. 629 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,080 He called It's OK That's Love, a hybrid that puts more weight on 630 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,160 breaking the social prejudices toward the minority groups, he 631 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,760 quotes Miss No. The writer has the seriousness 632 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,720 and the wait, and I have the lightness and mass friendliness. 633 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,320 Together we make a great synergy, he said. 634 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,880 The director said he was pressured about the difficulty 635 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,320 of bringing the story to the screen without deviating too 636 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,080 much from the ROM com frame. Which makes me think that the 637 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:59,000 studio or the the network was like hey I don't want this to. 638 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,880 Be like not. Fun like, I don't want this to 639 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:06,440 not be a ROM com because we want people to watch, he says. 640 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,240 I personally found it hard to keep the balance between a ROM 641 00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:11,040 com and a conventional melodrama. 642 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,040 Everyone seen would contain both features. 643 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,000 So long as this balance stays unbroken, the drama will be 644 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,480 close to a perfection, the director confided. 645 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,160 Yeah, so I really agree with what he's saying. 646 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:29,200 You can see that he's trying to break new ground here with the 647 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,280 drama and how it portrays mental illness, mental health. 648 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:38,320 Because it's very obvious that the native Korean audience is so 649 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,880 unfamiliar with these topics, with why they're important to 650 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:46,320 talk about. And to have big stars like Toen 651 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,600 Song and Kong Hyojin being front and center and talking about 652 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,480 these things openly as psychiatrists and as like the 653 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,760 male lead, going through these struggles very openly and 654 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,320 honestly. But also with this like ROM com 655 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,120 fun light hearted atmosphere with this found family with 656 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:10,880 these really lively characters that is in so enticing. 657 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,120 And it totally works. Yeah, I think they did a great 658 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:22,040 job of managing that line between what obviously the 659 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:27,400 studios and, you know, the networks would accept, and still 660 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:32,000 being able to push beyond anything that had been done up 661 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,200 to that point. So I think they did a really, 662 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,080 really good job. Both the screenwriter and the 663 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:41,000 director just worked so well together in tandem to bring this 664 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,240 story to life. And again, yes, you can still 665 00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:50,080 see the tropes that the drama hits, like the cohabitation, the 666 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,880 quasi. They say enemies to lovers, but 667 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,400 to me it's not really enemies to lovers. 668 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,160 It's kind of like mildly dislike of each other to. 669 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,240 Yeah, yeah. I don't think he ever 670 00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:06,120 necessarily disliked her either. She really disliked him. 671 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,040 Yeah, she did. She really did. 672 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:13,160 But you know, you have those beats that Korean dramas tend to 673 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:19,200 hit, but then he go, they both go beyond and they push into 674 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:24,040 almost unchanted territory. And that's like what made the 675 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,640 drama so special, I think, to me at least. 676 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,400 I'm also going to point out the fact that this is an older 677 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,440 couple, right? These protagonists, the female 678 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,400 lead and the male lead, are in their 30s. 679 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,840 Yep, which is lovely. It's lovely, I love it. 680 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,600 They're in their 30s, they're older, they're at a totally 681 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,480 different stage in life. They're not in their 20s, 682 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,920 they're not teenagers. And I feel like back then it was 683 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,640 way more prevalent to have drama centered on younger 684 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,480 protagonists. Young people in their 20s are in 685 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:58,240 high school school dramas. And today I just read a, a 686 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,600 headline that was saying that Korean dramas, it's like the 687 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,800 first time that they really don't have high school dramas 688 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:11,440 people or dramas with young people in them centred on people 689 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:16,280 in their 20s beginning their lives because of the aging 690 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,600 Korean populace. As we all know, the birth rate 691 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,480 in Korea is extremely low. They are not having children in 692 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,400 Korea. And because of that, there is an 693 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,160 aging population. And so a lot of the K dramas 694 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,200 that are coming out of Korea are about older people, people in 695 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,840 their 30s, forties, fifties, right? 696 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:41,160 If you look at the dramas that are currently airing, they are 697 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,480 not about, you know, kids in school uniforms. 698 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:49,360 I mean, but also, there's only so much you can push. 699 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,440 You're putting all the actors in school uniforms, isn't there? 700 00:42:54,120 --> 00:43:01,560 You know, it's it's true, but it's a different world and it's 701 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:02,960 OK. That's Love was doing this 10 702 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,480 years ago. Yeah, exactly. 703 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:10,920 So one of the last things that I wanted to discuss was I found 704 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:16,320 out that there is a bit of a fan war situation between It's OK, 705 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:21,920 that's love and it's so. It's OK to not be OK. 706 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:28,440 It's OK to not be OK. I I had no idea that this was 707 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,440 the thing. I love both shows. 708 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,240 I wanna. Put on the record I. 709 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,240 Love both shows I. Remember watching? 710 00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:40,800 Hands up, I love both shows. I had no idea that they were 711 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,440 being compared. I think it's because they're 712 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:49,480 similarly named and they cover similar topics of mental health 713 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,880 and mental illness. They are fucking different 714 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,240 shows, OK? They are wildly different shows. 715 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,560 They have totally different vibes, different casts, 716 00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,640 different writers, different, different directors. 717 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,840 They are like a good ten years apart. 718 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:08,960 I think what it's It's OK to not Be OK was aired in 20 and 20, I 719 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,040 think. I think it's a pandemic show, 720 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,320 yeah. Yeah, yeah, I think 2020. 721 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,360 Almost a 10 year age difference between them. 722 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:22,400 I think people, I put it, I put a poll up on Instagram to see 723 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,840 what people were saying, like, how did you, how do you feel 724 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:31,440 about this? And a lot of people, it was a 725 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,440 mixed bag. Some people were like, I love 726 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,760 it's OK to not be OK more because of the cinematography 727 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,560 and the cast and the story and yadda, yadda, yadda. 728 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,680 It's better. Some people thought that it's OK 729 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,440 that's love was dated, which I don't know about that 730 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,720 subjective, but OK. Yeah, even the vibes are so 731 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:57,360 different, like It's OK to not be OK has almost like this 732 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,680 gothic vibe over it. It's such a different. 733 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:06,520 Like I love both shows. And also, The thing is, for me, 734 00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:12,320 I watched It's OK to Not Be OK live like as it was airing. 735 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:16,000 So I had a very different experience with that show than I 736 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,800 had with it. It's OK That's love. 737 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,920 I watched it, you know, in my own little bubble of sorts. 738 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,720 But even saying that, like, I still loved both shows. 739 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,320 And the fact of the matter is, if you put it out there that 740 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,280 you're watching, it's OK, That's love. 741 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,480 There will be people for you to talk to about this show because 742 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:42,000 it's a very well loved drama. Like there's people that love it 743 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,880 and will still want to talk about it. 744 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:48,760 So I don't, I never understand the point of fan wars. 745 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,120 You are allowed to enjoy both things. 746 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,920 Like you don't, it doesn't have to be either or. 747 00:45:54,920 --> 00:46:00,360 I don't understand this, you know, mentality of something has 748 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,120 to be better Like than what you like. 749 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,520 It's like it's a useless mentality. 750 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:10,640 It's like again, yes, they have similar they cover similar 751 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,880 topics. They both cover mental health, 752 00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:17,640 but one is way, way more into the romance than the other, I 753 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,840 would say. And they're very different 754 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,520 vibes, very different stories at the end of the day. 755 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,200 And I. Wait, which one is more into the 756 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,240 romance do you think? I think it's OK. 757 00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:29,960 That's love. No, I think it's it's OK to not 758 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,600 be OK. They lean a very heavily into 759 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:39,240 like the romance story of it. It's centered around those two. 760 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,080 It's centered around like their story, whereas I think you get 761 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,440 more of a bigger found family and it's okay. 762 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:52,120 That's love, even though in the other one, God, it gets so when 763 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,680 you're talking about these two and it's OK to not be OK, you 764 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,640 have like a smaller found family because you have the main couple 765 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,520 plus the brother. So you have like a smaller found 766 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,200 family. But I think in it's OK, that's 767 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,880 love. It's just a bigger one. 768 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,640 And you have like, you know, the psychiatrists and you do get to 769 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:16,560 go more into the hospital side of it and you get to see a lot 770 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,480 more of that. But I, I don't know, I just 771 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:23,000 think they're different shows. And I think why pick when you 772 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,760 can enjoy both? I could, yeah. 773 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,600 I couldn't understand. Yeah, I was like, why choose 774 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,040 between vanilla cake and chocolate cake? 775 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:38,000 Just have both cakes. Yeah, I had people saying, oh, 776 00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:41,760 it's OK, that's love. The costumes were dated. 777 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,240 It was really zany lighting and sets. 778 00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:48,520 I was like, I don't understand. That's not dated. 779 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,280 Someone said it's OK, That's love was very easy and simple to 780 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,120 understand. Like they were talking about it 781 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,360 positively that way. And even though they had watched 782 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,280 It's OK to Not Be OK more recently because it's a more 783 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,640 recent show, they couldn't fucking remember any details 784 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,840 about that show at all. They were just like, yeah, the 785 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:11,240 female lead was rude and like, they was what she was like, not 786 00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:12,480 gonna lie. They're right about that. 787 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,160 Another person was talking about the tonal shifts and it's OK, 788 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,600 that's love being weird. And I was like, I don't, I 789 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,280 didn't get a tonal shift at all. Like I I guess maybe they're 790 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,120 talking about the twist. Yeah, but that was it was there. 791 00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:30,240 We were just dumb to not see it. We're just stupid like. 792 00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:32,400 We just did a. It's almost like watching the 793 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,160 6th Sense and being like Oh my God. 794 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,320 Exactly. He's dead all the time. 795 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:45,120 Do you know when it comes to these type of comparisons? 796 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:50,840 I also always think it's so unfair to compare to compare 797 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:55,360 especially to dramas like this. Like it's OK to not be OK. 798 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,720 It had Netflix money behind it. I was. 799 00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:02,000 Going to say the same cost. Of course the costumes are going 800 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,680 to be better. Of course the sets are going to 801 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,320 be better. It's almost 10 years apart. 802 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,800 Things have developed. The male lead in that is the 803 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,800 most expensive male like he gets paid the more. 804 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,440 Yeah, of course. It's going to have more budget. 805 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,560 It's good. It's such a big budget drama. 806 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:25,000 I mean, they ended up selling the books that she wrote in 807 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,360 this. They ended up making merchandise 808 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:33,320 out of it and selling it. They I just feel like it's an 809 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:37,480 unfair comparison because you can't. 810 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,680 It's like comparing apples to oranges almost. 811 00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:46,360 It's like, you know, there it's an older drama that had maybe 812 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:51,400 half the budget of that one. It's a maybe win, maybe even 813 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,160 less. Like you can't go in and say, 814 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,720 oh, their costuming sucks. And I was like, their costuming 815 00:49:57,720 --> 00:50:01,200 is adequate for the time that it was being recorded and 816 00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:04,040 distributed in like, I don't know. 817 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:08,000 I don't know what to say but. Yeah, also the Sunboat Song 818 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:12,160 talking about the OST, we gotta talk about the OSD on It's Okay, 819 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:13,840 That's Love. Jesus. 820 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:19,360 Did you like it or? I'm not gonna lie, I did get a 821 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,040 little because they kept using the same song. 822 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:29,640 They they kept using the the same songs and I I think I knew 823 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,480 the songs off by heart by the end of it. 824 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,600 There is actually. There is something, but I can't 825 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,800 talk about it until we're in the spoiler section. 826 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:41,600 OK, All right, all right, so I have a few fun facts that I 827 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,440 wanted to talk through. This is kind of funny because 828 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,600 there's a couple of episodes where Komi Ojin has like an arm 829 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,800 cast. Yeah, Oh my God. 830 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,040 Is there something to do with that? 831 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,880 Because I was like, this is a very over exaggerated cast. 832 00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,280 She actually broke this is she actually broke her arm. 833 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:06,560 At 1:00 AM on June 19th, 2014, Konghya Jin was riding in a van 834 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,200 that became involved in a three vehicle rear end collision with 835 00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:12,440 two trucks. She was on her way back to Seoul 836 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,120 after filming in Kungi Province. This resulted in a left arm 837 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,360 fracture and knee injury and scratches to her face. 838 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,120 After recuperating, she and Co star Chun Sung later left for a 839 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,680 shoot in Okinawa, Japan. They actually filmed in Okinawa, 840 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,160 Japan For those that episode where their characters go on a 841 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,320 romantic trip. Her fractured arm was 842 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,160 incorporated into the story. And I was like. 843 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:32,920 Oh. My God, how funny. 844 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,040 That makes so much sense. That makes so much sense. 845 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:43,080 It was like, she just fired. It's like one. 846 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:48,520 It's like a sitcom when, like, a female cast member gets pregnant 847 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,960 and they, like, just incorporate it into the story. 848 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:56,080 Yeah. I was like, this cast is so big 849 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,200 but it's supposedly very minor. Interesting. 850 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:03,040 Yeah, in the drama, yeah, it looked too real, you know what 851 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,720 I'm saying? Like they didn't like fudge it. 852 00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:08,880 It looked like a real cast. Anyway, so the show ended up 853 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:13,880 with modest ratings, which is about 10 to 12% on average and 854 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:18,720 it ranked 3rd on the year end. Content power index, CPI for 855 00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:23,400 short, developed by CJE and M and AGB Nielsen Media Research, 856 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,760 which monitors non traditional variables such as number of 857 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,960 mobile and Internet streaming viewers and online buzz in 858 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,360 social media. And I have to be honest, 10 859 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,640 years ago that probably didn't matter as much. 860 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,160 Now that matters. That's the only thing that 861 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:43,200 matters, I would say. So it did well by today's 862 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,040 standards, you know. Yeah. 863 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,320 It also received praise for addressing the discrimination 864 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,320 and social stigma attached to people with mental health issues 865 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,200 and other minorities. It was nominated for three picks 866 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:58,320 on awards and I will close out the section of the non spoilers 867 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:03,560 section with a portion of a of a review that I saw from my My 868 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:08,400 Drama List MDL. This reviewer posted a very long 869 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,600 review. Sometimes I don't like reading 870 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,760 the My Drama List reviews, but this one caught my attention 871 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,880 because they started off by saying that they have bipolar 872 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:21,680 disorder and it was a very involved several paragraphs of 873 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,840 them talking about their disorder and how it feels to be 874 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:30,200 in a manic state and and all of this stuff and how it was very 875 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,040 poetically written. I was very well written, but 876 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,760 then they go into their basically five star 10 however 877 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,280 many points, top points you can give. 878 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,440 An MDL? Yeah, it's 10 out of 10 on MDL. 879 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:44,760 So this is from Surprise Lobotomy from October 2014, so 880 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,640 very close to when this finished airing. 881 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,840 This is a 10 year old review from MDL. 882 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:54,000 They say if there is a single safe harbour in all of this, 883 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,320 it's love. When 2 souls dredge through the 884 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,080 fire and connect, the bond can become unbreakable. 885 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,360 Empathy is the great uniter. Shared pain is like cement. 886 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,440 Love will harden through pain. This is what separates this 887 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,520 drama from the rest. This is why it's OK. 888 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,960 That's Love is a masterpiece. Mental health is not a topic 889 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,000 that is addressed very often in Korean dramas, and when it is, 890 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,800 it's often come comes across as comical. 891 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,720 It's usually presented as one of the two extremes, something too 892 00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:24,480 light, often existing as Comic Relief or a silly quirk meant to 893 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,800 add flavor without substance, or as something too heavy existing 894 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,840 as some ethereal force that twists the mind into something 895 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,960 less than human. It's Okay That's Love is able to 896 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,640 present something serious and keep a light hearted tone 897 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,720 without being insulting. If you're looking at the 898 00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:43,760 melodrama tag and expecting something that borders on 899 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,440 mahjong, this drama is not that. The feeling of melancholy 900 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,080 threads this drama together, but it does not weigh it down. 901 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,840 You won't find endless sobbing, misunderstandings, or 902 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,360 two-dimensional characters. Instead, this drama showcases 903 00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,200 the marriage of two souls through unconditional love and 904 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,840 growth. Love is strongest when flaws can 905 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,680 fit together like a jigsaw puzzle, and the characters in 906 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,960 this drama complement each other perfectly. 907 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,320 It's important to emphasize that these characters are flawed. 908 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:15,080 Too often drama shy away from characters with real problems 909 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,800 and instead settle on external conflict to move the story in 910 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,400 its entirety. The characters in these dramas 911 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,520 are perfect outside of the experiences they undergo and the 912 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,440 forces that act on them, and it makes them two-dimensional. 913 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,360 This is not the case in this drama. 914 00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:34,240 Most of the conflict is internal, but it's relatable and 915 00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:36,520 organic. Every single character is 916 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:40,040 presented in a manner that allows you to love and empathize 917 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,320 with them. It's a multi layered story. 918 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,240 The supporting cast is also very well developed. 919 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,720 In addition to a perfect atmosphere, this drama does 920 00:55:47,720 --> 00:55:49,800 something almost unheard of in a Korean drama. 921 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,600 It presents a love story that is not about the chase but rather 922 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,840 endurance. Adult topics such as sex, 923 00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,200 intimacy, and trust are at the forefront and allow the drama to 924 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,520 paint a picture of actual couplehood instead of 925 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,800 traditional guy chase girl or girl chase guy fair. 926 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,240 You'll watch the couple grow not only as individuals but as 927 00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:12,080 loving creatures. It doesn't stop at love either. 928 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,600 The concept of friendship as a refuge is just as strong. 929 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,200 The entire cast grows over the course of the show. 930 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,160 So I thought they summed it up perfectly. 931 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:26,760 And I love that they had such a read on the show. 932 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,440 The same same as my read and I don't have such a close 933 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:36,080 connection or experience with mental illness, you know? 934 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,680 That's so beautifully written. It was beautifully. 935 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,280 Written I just. Had to. 936 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,120 I had to share it so. So well written. 937 00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:47,440 Yeah, whoever you, wherever you are, surprise lobotomy, I hope 938 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,400 you're doing well. I know it's been 10 years, but 939 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,400 it was a beautiful review. And it really was. 940 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,240 Really hit everything on the head. 941 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,520 So, Liliana, before we get into the spoiler section, what would 942 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,000 you rate this show out of five's Hold you bottles? 943 00:57:01,720 --> 00:57:06,640 I've been thinking because I don't know, would I put it out 944 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,360 that do you do halves? I do half. 945 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,640 Yeah, I. Probably say, then I probably 946 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,280 say a 4.5. Like I, I don't think I would go 947 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,400 like 5. There's a couple of *** things 948 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:23,760 that I don't think I can ignore. So I don't think I will go 5, 949 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:29,080 but I would go 4.5. That would be my rating 4.5. 950 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:34,320 Same 4.5 both 4 point fives across the board. 951 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,240 We really, really love this show. 952 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:41,040 Yeah, as you can see, and it's very nuanced and layered and the 953 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:47,520 characters are just so fun to be around and very interesting and 954 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,680 a lot of positives about this show. 955 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:54,480 And we really did not spoil anything about the show. 956 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,600 No, we did not give away anything, nothing, all. 957 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:04,640 So we are going to get into spoilers right after this. 958 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,120 Excuse me. I can't. 959 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:12,800 I have. No, I'm sorry. 960 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:19,560 What? All right, we're on the other 961 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,240 side of spoilers. Anything goes, we are going to 962 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:23,240 spoil. It's okay. 963 00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,000 That's love. It is a 10 year old drama, but 964 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,240 we highly encourage you to go watch it for yourself. 965 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:34,120 Please, please go watch it for yourself and come back and 966 00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:35,800 finish listening to this episode. 967 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,640 So I guess we'll start in the beginning. 968 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:44,520 In episode 1, they show him being stabbed by his brother 969 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:48,240 immediately after the older brother is released from 970 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,760 president. We jump right in, don't we? 971 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:53,400 We just. Go right into it. 972 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:57,600 It is so shocking. We get the shared house, so we 973 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,360 get introduced to these three people that live together, this 974 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,200 found family so to speak. And then we get a time trip of 975 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:11,040 26 months later, 2 years later, she's a psychiatrist and they 976 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,280 are treating Lee L like the actress. 977 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:19,400 Lee L is playing a battered trans woman who is being 978 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,080 admitted because her family abused her for chopping off her 979 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,480 balls. And I don't say that like to be 980 00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,360 flippant. That is what her brother said 981 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,000 like that. That's literally the line that 982 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:37,520 her, the trans woman's brother said and the aunties or calling 983 00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:41,600 a shaman to beat the demon out of her and all this stuff like 984 00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,040 trying to cure the trans out of her. 985 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:49,200 Yeah. And our female lead, Jesus, who 986 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:54,200 like wants to transfer Lee L to a psychiatric ward. 987 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,960 Otherwise the family can do whatever they want to her within 988 00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,640 the hospital, which I don't quite understand that either. 989 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,960 Like you can just beat up on a family member while they're in 990 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:06,080 the hospital. I was confused about that, but 991 01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:10,040 OK. She quizzes the interns that she 992 01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:14,240 has with her because it seems like she is of a higher ranking. 993 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,480 Like, she's not necessarily a resident, but she's not a 994 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,720 professor yet. No, no, I think she's like in 995 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,200 the between. She's training to become one, 996 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,720 but she's not quite, you know, quite yet. 997 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,920 She's an inbetweener, but she has some underlings that are 998 01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,040 interning with her that are residents or something with with 999 01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,040 her and so she quizzes them. What are we going to do about 1000 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:39,720 this trans woman patient Lee L What is our plan of care for 1001 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,600 her? One guy says let's take her 1002 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:46,880 history down about their childhood, adolescence, gender 1003 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,800 roles, that she's like bye, no next, what do you think? 1004 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:54,080 And goes to the next intern. The next one's like she didn't 1005 01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,240 do anything wrong so we should just discharge. 1006 01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,320 Her. I was just going to say next, 1007 01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,200 Next, Barry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1008 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,040 She was. The intern was like, yeah, she, 1009 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,320 she when she was getting sex reassignment surgery, she didn't 1010 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,160 have any psychological problem except for gender identity 1011 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,720 disorder. And another intern chimes in. 1012 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,080 Being gay isn't a psychological problem, but a problem that has 1013 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,680 to do with preference. And she's just like, bro, like, 1014 01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,480 shut up. Like she can't like deal with 1015 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:28,000 these interns who have competing and wrong ideas about the plan 1016 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:32,840 of care for this poor trans woman who is just getting beat 1017 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,840 on by her family. Like it's a basically attempted 1018 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:37,840 murder at this point. It really is. 1019 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:44,080 It really is so off the bat, like from jump we get a very 1020 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:49,120 interesting and controversial patient. 1021 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,040 We do. We do, right? 1022 01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,640 It's not something that you would have like 10 years ago, 1023 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,520 like just going to 10. Years ago 10. 1024 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:05,200 Years ago, seeing that in a show in a light that isn't mocking or 1025 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:09,640 anything, it's again, we'll, I think we'll say this a lot 1026 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,320 throughout this episode, but it's groundbreaking. 1027 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,000 It is. It's groundbreaking and you can 1028 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:21,240 see that these interns have varying levels of experience, 1029 01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,960 but also they are audience proxies. 1030 01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:26,880 Yeah, I was going to say that's yeah. 1031 01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,400 They are meant to represent the audience and their limited 1032 01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:33,520 knowledge or how they might feel toward this patient like the 1033 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:37,440 trans woman. So her reaction and how she 1034 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,520 eventually handles this patient, which is with compassion and to 1035 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:45,680 obviously just get her out of the situation like her, she was 1036 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:49,320 basically saying why don't you just go non contact with your 1037 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,600 family there? They do not understand you. 1038 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,200 They will never understand you. You. 1039 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,240 Need to leave. That's basically. 1040 01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,240 You just need to leave. You need to leave the situation. 1041 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,760 They're going to kill you was her point. 1042 01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,240 She was basically saying you need to prioritize yourself. 1043 01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:11,400 Like you need to stop trying to understand your abusers, these 1044 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:16,680 aggressors, which they're your blood relations and you know, 1045 01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:20,560 prioritize yourself. But just you're on the line. 1046 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:25,600 Yeah, just that alone as well. In a society where your elders 1047 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,200 are to be respected. Exactly. 1048 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,440 Flies in the face of Confucianism. 1049 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,960 It's so I was just like, I can't. 1050 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,440 It's right off the bat. It's right there. 1051 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:39,800 It's right there. They are just showing you such 1052 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:46,400 to us right now in 2024, even in a like even in Asia right now 1053 01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,840 now that's such a rare thing to say. 1054 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:54,440 It's changing, but it's so slow. But like to us Westerners, 1055 01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,960 that's even like that's a more obvious thing. 1056 01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:02,080 If something is not working for you, you need to prioritize 1057 01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,640 yourself, your mental health, your mental well-being. 1058 01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:09,160 And I think like millennials onwards are really taking that 1059 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:12,920 into account and pushing that forward into other generations. 1060 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:19,120 But I think to have that in a show, in a Korean show 10 years 1061 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:23,920 ago, I as soon as I pressed play, I was like, this is mind 1062 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:29,560 boggling to me that that is what's happening straight off 1063 01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,320 the bat. Like I it's flying against 1064 01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:37,720 everything that Korean culture kind of stands for, in a sense. 1065 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:43,040 Yeah, So then we move on. We find out because nobody's 1066 01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,240 perfect in this show. Literally nobody is perfect. 1067 01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:50,160 Just like life. She has a sex phobia. 1068 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:52,320 Our female lead has a sex phobia. 1069 01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,280 Really. She says it's an insecurity and 1070 01:04:56,560 --> 01:05:01,240 relationship avoidance. And even though she has a 1071 01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,720 boyfriend who's cheating on her, which comes out later, which is 1072 01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:08,920 really funny of a, of a situation, but that's her thing. 1073 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:12,840 Like, that's her issue that she has to work through throughout 1074 01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,920 the show. She meets the male lead in the 1075 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,760 first episode. They're going on like, a 1076 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,760 television program together. Yeah. 1077 01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:26,080 And she is the expert, like psychiatrist that they bring on 1078 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:30,120 this show. And he is this famous writer who 1079 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:35,800 is also on this panel. She comes in and she jokes that 1080 01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,320 he she hopes he's not disappointed that she's a woman 1081 01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,000 psychiatrist instead of the scheduled male psychologist 1082 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,840 because it was going to be Sombe who was going to go on the show. 1083 01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,200 And he was like, why don't you go on and said he was like off 1084 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,240 like having sex with his wife before she like boarded a plane 1085 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,480 to the states. That like he was like, I don't 1086 01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,600 want to go on the show. You go on for me. 1087 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:56,160 You guys, you. Go. 1088 01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:00,960 So she's filling in, the male lead says. 1089 01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:05,680 Dead ass. Yes, he was hoping for a fiery 1090 01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:09,200 debate, but because she's too pretty, it'll be a distraction 1091 01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:17,880 and you get the instantly that he is a male chauvinist. 1092 01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:22,000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's like looking down the 1093 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:26,160 makeup artist, like Blouse to like, look at her cleavage in 1094 01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:30,320 the mirror and like the female lead is clocking all of this 1095 01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:31,160 shit. And. 1096 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,880 She's like, I got you, I know who you are. 1097 01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:38,560 He's just made to be unlikeable. Like right from the get go it's 1098 01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:42,120 like. Yeah, he's a likable asshole. 1099 01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:44,520 Exactly. Yeah. 1100 01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,360 And they do this show. It's a very interesting but 1101 01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,720 seemingly flawed audience participation experiments that 1102 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,240 they do. They're talking about inherent 1103 01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,800 human goodness versus human evil. 1104 01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:00,120 And they're asking if the audience if they've had bad 1105 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:04,360 thoughts versus if they've acted on them or if the men felt 1106 01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:08,400 sexually aroused by a stranger versus if they've actually 1107 01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,640 sexually assaulted them. And I was like, whoa, whoa, 1108 01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,920 whoa. Like, this is a lot for episode 1109 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:14,200 1. Yeah. 1110 01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,680 This is all to promote some book that was just released. 1111 01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:22,320 And she argues that the male leads books because it. 1112 01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,360 I don't think. I don't think that he wrote this 1113 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:28,640 book that they were talking about, but that his fictional 1114 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:33,960 books promote unhealthy cycles of violence and sexual deviancy. 1115 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,240 Nowadays she'd probably say that his books are sexploitation or 1116 01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:42,000 the exploitation of sexual assault for sensationalist 1117 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,120 literature. That is what she was getting at. 1118 01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:49,040 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He says she shouldn't be looking 1119 01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:54,200 at the rapist in his presumably there's maybe a book or two 1120 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,040 about a rapist that he's written. 1121 01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:00,200 He says she shouldn't be looking at the rapist as a patient in 1122 01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,760 need of treatment, but have compassion for the sexual 1123 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:08,680 assault victim who gets revenge on their aggressors in the same 1124 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:12,240 manner that they were assaulted. Like they get their look back in 1125 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,560 my book. Why aren't you looking at, like, 1126 01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:18,319 that aspect of my books? And you're looking at me 1127 01:08:18,319 --> 01:08:23,840 promoting something based on the fact that I have this rapist in 1128 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:29,479 my book. It's a very controversial take 1129 01:08:30,279 --> 01:08:32,319 of them talking about this. Yeah. 1130 01:08:32,359 --> 01:08:35,920 In Episode 1, she ends the broadcast by saying there is 1131 01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:40,120 hope no matter how difficult the situation is, and that is the 1132 01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:44,640 thesis for the whole show. Yeah. 1133 01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:46,960 The entire. Basis, yeah. 1134 01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:52,760 And I will say like right off the bat from that section there, 1135 01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:57,439 I loved it like the back and forth between them. 1136 01:08:57,840 --> 01:08:58,800 The. Banter. 1137 01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:03,319 It's so good and I'm like, I exactly. 1138 01:09:03,319 --> 01:09:09,080 And it's like it's toe to toe. There's no her being, you know, 1139 01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,960 she is. And This is why it's beautiful 1140 01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,600 when you write a female character in her 30s, because 1141 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:20,080 the kind of woman that you are in your 30s is not necessarily 1142 01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,279 the same that you are in your 20s. 1143 01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:26,120 You are more self assured, you are more confident. 1144 01:09:26,319 --> 01:09:30,359 And I'm not saying 20 year olds can't be that, but in a 1145 01:09:30,359 --> 01:09:36,319 situation like this where she is a very popular author and you 1146 01:09:36,319 --> 01:09:42,520 know, in a situation where she is almost made to feel less than 1147 01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,800 because she is a woman, he does that. 1148 01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:48,560 He says that right off the bat, but she does not back down. 1149 01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,880 She's like, no, no, no, no, this is my career. 1150 01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:54,160 And the banter that they have. She doesn't stand down. 1151 01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,200 There's no like hesitation on her part. 1152 01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,960 There's no like she gives it as good as she gets it. 1153 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:05,840 And I'm like, I love this. This is what I mean when I want 1154 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:09,800 strong female lead characters, I don't mean I want them to be 1155 01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:14,480 physically strong. I want her to be womanly strong 1156 01:10:14,480 --> 01:10:18,640 in the sense that she can see the situation, but she doesn't 1157 01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,680 back down. And in that type of situation, 1158 01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,520 she is calling things as she sees them. 1159 01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,640 She's sharp. She's determined, she's dogged, 1160 01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:32,360 she's intelligent and like. And that catches his attention 1161 01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,960 as well, yes. Yes, he like is instantly 1162 01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:37,800 attracted to her. Exactly. 1163 01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,920 And it's not like necessarily because I mean, she's a 1164 01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:45,360 beautiful, she's a beautiful actress, but he kind of like 1165 01:10:45,480 --> 01:10:51,080 sees this woman that is standing toe to toe with him and that 1166 01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,960 attracts him. And I find those relationships 1167 01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:59,240 to be way, way better than that instant love of, you know, 1168 01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:02,040 you're gorgeous. I'm in love with these sort of 1169 01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:06,080 type of situation, if you know what I mean, rather than we 1170 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:12,120 intellectually match and that and that makes me attracted to 1171 01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,680 you. Like I just feel like that 1172 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,200 speaks to me so much better. I agree. 1173 01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:19,320 I agree. So I love their meet cute. 1174 01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:23,400 It is, you know, they're seeing the good and the bad in each 1175 01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,760 other because she's she's already doesn't like him. 1176 01:11:27,480 --> 01:11:29,480 She got a bad first impression of him. 1177 01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,200 Rightfully so. I I mean. 1178 01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:41,400 Yeah, so we head into episode 2. There is this chase scene with 1179 01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,680 the schizophrenic patient off his meds that was at the club. 1180 01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:49,920 It was crazy. She hits our male lead over the 1181 01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:52,600 head and causes like a head injury. 1182 01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:57,000 His head is like split open, he's bleeding and she's she's 1183 01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:02,760 defending her patient. And this is rare to see that 1184 01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,160 like the male lead comes to her rescue when she's being 1185 01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:08,200 assaulted by her patient and she's like, no, don't hurt the 1186 01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:13,240 patient. That is like that go flies 1187 01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:19,120 against like K drama tropes. It's subverting the trope of 1188 01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:20,840 like, oh, it's a damsel in distress. 1189 01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:24,240 She needs his assistance. He comes to her rescue and she's 1190 01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,840 fighting this guy in the club who's obviously distressed and 1191 01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,400 she's like, fuck off, get off of him. 1192 01:12:30,440 --> 01:12:34,080 And like, yeah, it's great. It's great. 1193 01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:38,360 And you see how dedicated she is as a physician. 1194 01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:42,520 I was just going to say again, she's very dedicated to her job 1195 01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:49,280 and she doesn't allow this man to just sort of bulldoze his way 1196 01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,840 in. In fact, she's kind of like, I 1197 01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:55,240 don't need your assistance right now. 1198 01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,600 In fact, you're, you're making this much more difficult than it 1199 01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:02,640 needs to be. Yeah, yeah, I, I, I enjoyed that 1200 01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,080 scene as well. It's crazy. 1201 01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:08,440 There's a car chase scene. I mean, it's wild. 1202 01:13:08,480 --> 01:13:13,480 It's wild. Then we get a new housemate in 1203 01:13:13,480 --> 01:13:16,680 the house. A new bombshell joins the villa 1204 01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:23,840 because there he goes to live in his Hongbei house. 1205 01:13:24,480 --> 01:13:28,080 He rents it out to these three people running Man Tourette's, 1206 01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:32,240 Guy Sombe and our female lead Jesus. 1207 01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:37,440 He goes to live there because of the plagiarism scandal with his 1208 01:13:37,440 --> 01:13:42,400 like Bessie and his girlfriend who were cheating together. 1209 01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:48,280 That was like a little like not so great because it was the the 1210 01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:53,280 impetus for him leaving his office, Tel Penthouse apartment 1211 01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:57,040 or whatever to go live in the hung their house. 1212 01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:00,400 But I don't know, like they'd never really circle back on it. 1213 01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:04,200 And he stayed friends with his bestie like it was like nothing. 1214 01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:10,240 I for some reason thought that that was like one of his 1215 01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:14,240 brothers as well. I don't know why, I don't know 1216 01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:17,320 why. Because he was, so he was. 1217 01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:20,920 He would hang out with his mother all the time. 1218 01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:24,120 Exactly. So I honestly thought, Oh my 1219 01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,560 God, So his brother did this to him. 1220 01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,920 And also I don't understand, that is one of the 1221 01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:35,040 inconsistencies that I kind of wish because that aspect of it 1222 01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:39,480 was used to sort of plow the story through to put him into 1223 01:14:39,480 --> 01:14:42,400 that house to force that cohabitation, right. 1224 01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:49,000 But later on that, again, like you said, that's never circled 1225 01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:53,800 back on. And in fact, that fringe is key 1226 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:58,560 to deciphering everything that comes later on. 1227 01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:03,640 And he's so and he's like, he obviously cares so much for him. 1228 01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:07,520 And I'm like but but but didn't. You it's a 20 year friendship 1229 01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:11,560 that he threw away from like this bitch who was very 1230 01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:18,000 obviously that's shady and obviously didn't care for him. 1231 01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:23,120 Like he couldn't tell that she was just using him to get ahead 1232 01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:27,200 and plagiarize his work. And it was bizarre. 1233 01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:31,040 So like I that was like, in the grand scheme of the show, 1234 01:15:31,480 --> 01:15:35,160 whatever. But yeah, we find out that she 1235 01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:40,920 has a sexual trauma because of her mother, her mother. 1236 01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,400 She thinks that mothers should be motherly. 1237 01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:49,760 Her mother is the legendary Kimikyon, by the way, legendary 1238 01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,640 actress. I love her. 1239 01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:59,760 I love her and she plays a, you know, someone who a mother who 1240 01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:03,960 is flawed. Like every character is so 1241 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:08,680 flawed and so the mother, we don't find out until later, but 1242 01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:13,320 the mother was basically having an affair for like all her life. 1243 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:17,480 All of the female leads, adult life and childhood life with 1244 01:16:17,480 --> 01:16:20,200 this President Kim. We never see President Kim, 1245 01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:21,640 which great. I don't want to see President 1246 01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:22,760 Kim. Yeah, yeah, 9. 1247 01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:29,280 Doesn't matter because her dad is in a wheelchair, severely 1248 01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:34,480 disabled, non verbal. I think they said later that he 1249 01:16:34,480 --> 01:16:36,560 was. He's paralyzed with the mind of 1250 01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:41,640 a three-year old. But do you know what that's I'm 1251 01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:45,880 just going to slide this in because it's much, much later 1252 01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:47,840 on. Like there is actually a 1253 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:51,680 conversation between the mother and our female lead and she kind 1254 01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:55,080 of says your father doesn't even understand anything. 1255 01:16:55,240 --> 01:17:00,000 And then she comes into the room and, like the father, cries. 1256 01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:01,160 That's not right and. Yeah. 1257 01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,600 So, yeah. So it's like, no, you know, 1258 01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:07,440 there is something that like, I think he does understand. 1259 01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:11,320 I think he does understand. But I think the point is that he 1260 01:17:11,440 --> 01:17:14,040 needs 24/7. Yeah. 1261 01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:17,840 She's a caregiver before she really is a wife. 1262 01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:22,240 And that is a really like speaking from personal 1263 01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:26,040 experience a little bit here, that is a really hard role. 1264 01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:33,080 That is an extremely hard role. My my dad was in. 1265 01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:37,440 He had a brain aneurysm and that left him in a very critical 1266 01:17:37,440 --> 01:17:42,480 situation for a fairly long time and my mom became his carer. 1267 01:17:42,480 --> 01:17:45,960 And it's hard, like it is hard work. 1268 01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:50,600 And I think that that is emphasized like that's you get a 1269 01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:56,880 little look of that in this show a bitch that it takes a village 1270 01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:00,000 to the point where, you know, female lead her sister. 1271 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,480 They're all coming in to kind of help. 1272 01:18:02,480 --> 01:18:06,880 But at the end of the day, it is the mother's like, you know, 1273 01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:11,120 doing, but she still has to work and keep a roof over their heads 1274 01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,520 and raise the at that point, I can't quite remember. 1275 01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:19,320 Do were they already adults when the father had the accident? 1276 01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:21,480 I don't think they were, I think. 1277 01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,080 They were, they were. Children. 1278 01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,520 Yeah, yeah. So not only does she have to be 1279 01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:34,040 a caregiver to her husband, but she also has this whole thing 1280 01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:39,080 where she has two kids to look after and a restaurant to keep 1281 01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:41,880 going, and it's all she. She did. 1282 01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:45,880 It's a lot, she. Was having this affair out of an 1283 01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:51,800 emotional need? Yeah, fulfillment out of that 1284 01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,360 need, but also out of, like, a financial need. 1285 01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:56,960 Yeah. Right. 1286 01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,680 Because President Kim was also apparently giving her money. 1287 01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:02,640 I don't know if she was like prostituting herself, Like it 1288 01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:05,280 kind of made it seem like why was President Kim like paying 1289 01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:08,600 for college? Like I didn't understand that 1290 01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:14,840 necessarily why there was large sums of money being sent to the 1291 01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:19,440 family. But and the whole thing of her 1292 01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:24,520 not being loyal to the father and having this long standing 1293 01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:31,600 affair with this President Kim that hurt the female lead to the 1294 01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:36,720 point where she was distrustful of relationships and had this 1295 01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,240 sexual phobia. Like she did not want to have 1296 01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:43,400 sex was basically a version of 30s in her 30s. 1297 01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:48,880 And the whole thing for her to unpack that I thought was really 1298 01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:53,160 well done. And for her to finally 1299 01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:58,840 understand where her mom was coming from and why she needed 1300 01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:02,520 that. She needed that relationship to 1301 01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:08,120 help her sustain her so that she could do this caregiving 24/7. 1302 01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:12,200 You know she's not getting that emotional. 1303 01:20:12,440 --> 01:20:14,240 Support. Support. 1304 01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:17,160 No, she is the emotional support. 1305 01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:24,120 From her husband at all. It's like she's she's let alone 1306 01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:26,880 physical needs. Like her, her, you know, she 1307 01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:28,880 wants to have sex like that's not that's. 1308 01:20:29,440 --> 01:20:31,960 She's not getting any of that. Next, not getting any of that, 1309 01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:36,280 she has no partner. But yeah, she still has to give 1310 01:20:36,440 --> 01:20:40,680 a lot of herself to everything. And it's like at the end of the 1311 01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:44,560 day, there's only so much you can give of yourself without 1312 01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:47,200 looking after yourself, if that makes sense, Like. 1313 01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,200 Exactly. There has to be a point where 1314 01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:53,080 you have to put your own needs 1st. 1315 01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,400 And that is interesting because I feel like that's a message 1316 01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:00,800 that holds true throughout the show for various parts of the 1317 01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:02,800 show. And it comes around for I think 1318 01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:07,520 every single character character that at some point the character 1319 01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:12,560 to resolve their own trauma or their own problems, they have to 1320 01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,920 put themselves 1st. And I think that was very 1321 01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,560 interesting and also very cleverly done, like just 1322 01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:23,640 throughout the whole drama. I felt that it was the term 1323 01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:28,640 nowadays would be self-care. It was a form of self-care and 1324 01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:34,080 self love to you know, have this affair no matter how cuz it was 1325 01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:37,480 selfish. And sometimes you need to be a 1326 01:21:37,480 --> 01:21:39,920 little selfish you. Need to be selfish, and I think 1327 01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,800 that's what she came to terms with, is that like mom needed to 1328 01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:46,280 be selfish in order to be selfless toward her father. 1329 01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:55,040 I think, like it's beautifully done in this show, that at first 1330 01:21:55,040 --> 01:22:00,240 glance you really dislike the mother, like at first glance, 1331 01:22:00,480 --> 01:22:02,680 because you don't understand her, you don't understand where 1332 01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:06,720 she's coming from. Like you don't get her, but as 1333 01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:11,400 the show goes on, you become to you come to empathize with her. 1334 01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:15,280 And it's like that review was saying you kind of come to 1335 01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,440 empathize with every single character in one way or another. 1336 01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:25,760 And the mother's journey, I like that she's not even in essence, 1337 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:30,160 not even that big of a character, but she has depth and 1338 01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:33,840 she's well developed and you come to understand her. 1339 01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:38,920 So I I think that's a plus all around for this show that most 1340 01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:42,560 of the characters even like secondary, you know, characters 1341 01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:45,760 that a lot of people would dub, you know, not necessary for the 1342 01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:50,040 show or, you know, reasons or they would be used to further 1343 01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:51,880 the plot. That's not the case here. 1344 01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:54,760 Like these characters are well developed and I really really 1345 01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,680 enjoyed that. So moving on, at the end of this 1346 01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:03,560 episode we get a really funny, funny scene because our male 1347 01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,680 lead sticks his foot in it. He spills the beans at the 1348 01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:10,200 soccer game night that her boyfriend is cheating on her 1349 01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:15,400 with the PA and she goes when she goes. 1350 01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,720 What did you say? Like, she like, clarifies and he 1351 01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:23,360 says, yeah, I saw them when we were at that TV recording, yadda 1352 01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:25,160 yadda, yadda. And he, like, spills the beans 1353 01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,680 because he thought they were in an open relationship. 1354 01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,480 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He like got it in his head. 1355 01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,960 Relationship, hey. He was like, oh, I didn't know 1356 01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:39,160 she was like that. He smells of beans and she goes 1357 01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:40,280 ape shit. She go. 1358 01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:43,440 When she turns off the TV in the middle of the game, I was like 1359 01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:47,080 Oh my God, like I braced myself even though I had already seen 1360 01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:51,120 this episode. And she confronts the boyfriend 1361 01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:53,880 like right there. See, that is something that I 1362 01:23:53,880 --> 01:24:00,640 really, really liked. I really liked the fact that she 1363 01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:07,200 doesn't let him like the boyfriend ex-boyfriend talk her 1364 01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:09,720 out of it. She's like no we're done we are 1365 01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:13,440 done. Like I but it makes sense. 1366 01:24:13,480 --> 01:24:16,360 It makes sense with her character to do that. 1367 01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:21,240 If they have gone the route of her character kind of like being 1368 01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:23,680 on the fence about taking him back or anything. 1369 01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:25,680 It wouldn't make sense because her character. 1370 01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:29,760 One of her issues is that relationship phobia and it is 1371 01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:32,320 stemmed from her mother having an an affair and everything. 1372 01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:36,840 It would be ridiculous for her to even for one second to be 1373 01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:38,200 like. Wishy washy and like. 1374 01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:40,680 I don't exactly I. Think I'll take him back? 1375 01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,320 And she's like he was. Sorry, she's like fuck you 1376 01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,080 leave. Go. 1377 01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:46,240 We're done. Bye. 1378 01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,240 No explanation needed. Done. 1379 01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,560 And. We were together for almost a 1380 01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:54,360 year, 300 days. They were celebrating the 300 1381 01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:57,480 day anniversary and he was like, yes, we're finally going to have 1382 01:24:57,480 --> 01:24:58,400 sex. Do you remember? 1383 01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,680 He was like so excited because he thought that they're going to 1384 01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:05,800 have sex. 100 you thought I laughed so hard at the ensuing 1385 01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,760 fight with the food because they had all this food game night, 1386 01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:12,600 game day food out and they started throwing food, throwing 1387 01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:16,240 crunches, crotch shots. Our male lead gets like hit in 1388 01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:18,800 the crotch and he's like, I don't understand, like how? 1389 01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:20,800 This is why. Am I getting my? 1390 01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:22,520 Games and why am I catching strays? 1391 01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:29,120 It was so funny. It is classic K drama humor and 1392 01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:33,680 ROM com shenanigans and you know what it what a recent show 1393 01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:37,360 reminded me of like this type of humor was Love next door. 1394 01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:39,360 Love next door. Yes, in the 1st 2:00. 1395 01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:41,720 Episodes there was. Like spring onions? 1396 01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:44,160 Yes, with the spring onions, she was like hitting. 1397 01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:49,320 That whole scene from Love Next Door is reminiscent of like 10 1398 01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:52,240 years ago. This was the style. 1399 01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:56,280 But this is what we mean when we're saying these are the 1400 01:25:56,280 --> 01:26:00,760 blueprints that you still see in today's dramas. 1401 01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:06,560 Like you, I don't think you can quite grasp these new dramas 1402 01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:09,800 without at least knowing. I'm not saying go back and watch 1403 01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:13,360 the full catalogue, but like, without at least knowing a 1404 01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:17,280 couple of the older dramas. All that was needed was the 1405 01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:19,160 bloody kimchi slap at that point. 1406 01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:22,680 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it was great. 1407 01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:27,560 But because the housemates rally like so like because they're 1408 01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:30,920 like you fucking cheated and like running man, just like 1409 01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:32,920 flies at the boyfriend. It's so. 1410 01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:34,360 Great. I love it. 1411 01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:40,240 So this episode ends with because our male lead is so 1412 01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:45,920 suave and charming and like he's always like putting on the 1413 01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:47,440 moves. You know what I'm saying? 1414 01:26:47,440 --> 01:26:48,760 Like it always seems like he has. 1415 01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:55,880 So he comes up to her room with a bottle of wine and two wine 1416 01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:59,400 glasses, and he's like, I think you need a drink. 1417 01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,120 And like, is offering her some wine. 1418 01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:03,840 And she's like, yeah, I'll take some wine. 1419 01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:07,680 I love when she fills up her glass and she's like, no more 1420 01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:10,880 all the way to the top, keep it going, keep it coming. 1421 01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:14,720 He fills up the wine glass all the way and she goes to take a 1422 01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:18,200 sip and goes and like throws it. Right in his. 1423 01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,320 Face just this full wine glass right in his face. 1424 01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:26,840 And I vividly remember that scene from when I first watched 1425 01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:28,480 it 10 years ago. I love that scene. 1426 01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:31,040 It's so. Iconic to me, yeah. 1427 01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:35,560 And also because you can see like on the male lead's face 1428 01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:37,960 that he was not expecting that at all. 1429 01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:40,480 Like you could just see it in his face. 1430 01:27:40,480 --> 01:27:44,360 And he's like, he has that face of what the hell did, What did 1431 01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:48,760 just happen? Yeah, she closes, but then she 1432 01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,120 goes back in her room, closes the door and she's like, I can't 1433 01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,640 believe this guy, yadda yadda, like bitching about him. 1434 01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:56,320 And he knocks on her door again and she's like, what the hell 1435 01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:59,200 does he want now? She opens the door and he throws 1436 01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:03,960 wine in her face because his whole shtick is like, I give as 1437 01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:06,840 much as I get. I, you know, I'm you give me, 1438 01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:09,040 I'm going to give it back as much as I get. 1439 01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:13,840 He's always like tit for tat and so he throws the wine back in 1440 01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:15,600 her face. It's so funny. 1441 01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:17,040 It really is. It really is. 1442 01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:19,400 And that that's like back and forth the. 1443 01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:23,320 Light this is a ROM com enemies. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1444 01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:24,840 yeah, yeah. And it's. 1445 01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:29,840 So fun to see them. So we get into episode 3. 1446 01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:33,080 She wants to kick him out of the house because he's annoying her 1447 01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:35,760 and she's calling it sexual harassment. 1448 01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,080 I don't know if I would go so far as to call it sexual 1449 01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:43,440 harassment, but he's basically pursuing her when she wants 1450 01:28:43,440 --> 01:28:46,760 nothing to do with him. But he's not he's not going like 1451 01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:49,240 too far necessarily. I would say I. 1452 01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:52,440 Don't think he is, but I think like for her she just doesn't 1453 01:28:52,440 --> 01:28:56,200 like him so she. Has her her complexes right, 1454 01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:58,640 Like she's she's a verse to relationships. 1455 01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:00,280 She doesn't like this guy already. 1456 01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:01,680 She thinks he's a male chauvinist. 1457 01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:02,920 She wants him to fuck out the house. 1458 01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:07,800 So like she's using all of these tricks and and buzzwords to get 1459 01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:09,480 him out. So she's calling sexual 1460 01:29:09,480 --> 01:29:12,400 harassment on him. What she does, though, is she 1461 01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:16,040 clocks his narcissistic personality disorder, and she 1462 01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:19,640 says he's like a hunter pursuing his quarry, that he's obsessed 1463 01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:21,520 with conquering her and getting her into bed. 1464 01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:25,320 And I would say at this point in the show, she's not necessarily 1465 01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:26,640 wrong. She's not. 1466 01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,560 No, she's not. And she's also thinking that he 1467 01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:33,480 broke up her relationship on purpose, like unleashing this 1468 01:29:33,480 --> 01:29:36,640 bombshell revelation at the opportune time. 1469 01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:40,200 And he says, like, no, it's a true mistake. 1470 01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:44,800 It all this bravado that I have that I displayed at the talk 1471 01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:48,080 show. I'm really like, kind of dumb. 1472 01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:50,800 I'm not that tactful. In. 1473 01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:53,600 Real life. So he's trying to convince her 1474 01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:58,120 like, look, I'm not this isn't a strategy to try and get you 1475 01:29:58,480 --> 01:30:01,360 like, I really thought you were in an open relationship. 1476 01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:04,280 I like I read the whole thing wrong, she says. 1477 01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:07,680 Is someone else's pain funny to you that you would even write 1478 01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:09,840 about it? Because by now she's bitching at 1479 01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:13,360 him in his room and he's got all these sticky notes. 1480 01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:18,480 He's planning his next book. And he says I even sell off my 1481 01:30:18,480 --> 01:30:21,000 pain to live. Why would I care about another's 1482 01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:22,240 pain? Yeah. 1483 01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:29,360 And I'm like, yeah. The ex-boyfriend comes back in 1484 01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:31,160 the rain. Oh my God, that scene. 1485 01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:36,400 Bro begging for a second chance. She's just like which part of 1486 01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:39,040 no. He says that she's abnormal 1487 01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:42,040 because he waited 300 plus days to have sex with her. 1488 01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:46,120 She's not putting out. He says do you know how hard it 1489 01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:48,040 was? And I have my notes in all caps 1490 01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:51,840 bro fuck off. Right off. 1491 01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:54,560 Like right off dude, he's a douchebag. 1492 01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:58,760 And I think that the show is also like with the boyfriend 1493 01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:03,560 demanding sex, that is also like audience proxy. 1494 01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:10,520 Because I feel like even today in Korea, there's such a 1495 01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:15,400 prevalence for this right in this highly patriarchal society 1496 01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:18,760 that men get what they want. Men have needs. 1497 01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:22,400 Men don't need to use a condom because like, yada yada yada, 1498 01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:26,440 all these things in this show, it makes him look stupid. 1499 01:31:26,440 --> 01:31:28,360 It makes him look like an asshole. 1500 01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:31,320 Yeah, because he is. Because he is. 1501 01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:36,200 And so I like that they are challenging these things that 1502 01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:39,840 like, you should have sex with them because you've been dating 1503 01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:41,480 for so long. And it's like, why? 1504 01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,320 I have issues. I have things I need to work 1505 01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:45,840 out. Like you couldn't just wait. 1506 01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:52,800 And I love the fact also that she doesn't let his opinions 1507 01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:56,960 define who she is. And I adored that because 1508 01:31:56,960 --> 01:32:01,160 normally you would kind of see he's trying to shift all the 1509 01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:04,560 blame onto her. What he's doing is I went to 1510 01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:08,120 that, I went out and cheated because you're not putting out. 1511 01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:09,920 That's basically what he's saying. 1512 01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:12,200 She's like, no, no, it's your fault. 1513 01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:15,560 If you are, it's your fault. You cheated because you wanted 1514 01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:19,440 to cheat. If you wanted to be a respectful 1515 01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:23,320 person, you would have waited. It's that simple. 1516 01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:25,840 It's that simple. If you were truly in this 1517 01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:29,320 relationship for the right reasons, you would have waited. 1518 01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:33,520 And I like I said, I love the fact that she doesn't let his 1519 01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:37,720 actions define who she is as a person. 1520 01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:43,320 I think by this point I was like, Dio, he's not real. 1521 01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:46,840 Really. Not my original watch. 1522 01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:49,800 Oh, OK, OK. On the re watch, I was like, 1523 01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:55,880 it's very obvious that he's not real because he shows up to drop 1524 01:32:55,880 --> 01:33:01,080 off his manuscript for review and like, how would he know 1525 01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:03,720 where he lives? How would he know where the male 1526 01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:06,760 lead lives? How would he know this whole 1527 01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:09,280 drama with the plagiarism and all this stuff with the 1528 01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:12,640 childhood friend? That's not public knowledge. 1529 01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:17,080 In my mind I was just like, oh, he must have told him off 1530 01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:19,880 screen, my good mind of mine. Right. 1531 01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:22,440 Like, you start making up, like, little things. 1532 01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:26,000 Exactly. Fill in the blanks and make it 1533 01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:30,480 work so that Dio isn't like this outlier and you have no red 1534 01:33:30,480 --> 01:33:34,240 flags for him. But really, he's just showing up 1535 01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:37,640 out of nowhere, like random places. 1536 01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:41,600 Yeah, Yeah. And The thing is when they go 1537 01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:47,560 back and explain it, it makes no sense because she's like, she's 1538 01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:52,960 like, he says, oh, I had the script in my hand and she 1539 01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:57,640 remembers and he's like, he's, he's making, but he has nothing 1540 01:33:57,640 --> 01:34:01,360 in his hand. And I'm like, remembers to look 1541 01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:06,080 at his hand like it's I, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1542 01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:10,840 And then even early on, Dio's manuscript seems to imply that 1543 01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:14,280 the male lead is the culprit in a murder. 1544 01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:18,960 And the title of the story that Dio is writing is Two brothers, 1545 01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:26,440 and the imprisoned older brother insists that he's innocent of 1546 01:34:26,440 --> 01:34:30,920 the murder of their father. This whole thing is very close 1547 01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:32,680 to. Hey, story. 1548 01:34:33,120 --> 01:34:35,160 The Male Leads story, exactly. Yeah. 1549 01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:39,920 There's a reference to One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest in the 1550 01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,440 Male Leads radio broadcast. He says psychiatrists will say 1551 01:34:42,440 --> 01:34:45,360 that we are all patients. Just as we catch a cold, we 1552 01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:48,840 continually bear an illness of the mind we need. 1553 01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:51,680 We need to acknowledge that and understand that we are all 1554 01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:53,640 hurting. Then the world will be a bit 1555 01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:56,960 more beautiful than it is now. And I'm like, oh, that's so 1556 01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:58,680 nice. That is. 1557 01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:02,880 We don't understand that like later in the show, he is going 1558 01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:06,600 to be severely I'll. Yep, Yep, Yep. 1559 01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:09,440 We're still in episode 3. They are. 1560 01:35:09,480 --> 01:35:14,760 The housemates are out drinking and Homeboy brings up consent 1561 01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:21,200 when the two psychiatrists are talking about who needs therapy. 1562 01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:26,400 Slash, who's a perv in this couple because she what happens 1563 01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:28,520 with the female lead, which I don't know if this is 1564 01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:33,080 necessarily kosher, but she workshops her patients and their 1565 01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:36,280 care when she's like with her friends and especially when 1566 01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:39,680 she's with her somebody. She's like, I watched a movie 1567 01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:44,000 The other day where this couple was going through this and this 1568 01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:47,000 and this and like, what do you think they should do? 1569 01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:49,520 How do you think they should handle it? 1570 01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:54,120 And like she workshops their care, like how she should handle 1571 01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:58,040 their their situation. That's probably where you think 1572 01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:00,840 this is probably not ethically right. 1573 01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:05,560 Not probably ethically, right, But also she keeps getting good 1574 01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:07,680 answers. So I'm sure that's why she keeps 1575 01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:10,320 doing it is because doing it. Yeah, good answers. 1576 01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:13,840 So. But in this case, she says she 1577 01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:16,640 watched a movie. They're actually her patients. 1578 01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:21,800 And he says the point is when the man was sleeping with the 1579 01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:25,880 woman, did he have her consent? Can I use the handcuffs? 1580 01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:28,840 Can I use the belt? You need to ask if the girl 1581 01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:33,040 doesn't want to, you shouldn't. And I was like Nope, got to 1582 01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:35,240 pause the show 10 years ago. Years. 1583 01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:42,240 This is years before the Me Too movement here in the West, years 1584 01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:45,600 before Burning Sun. This show was talking about 1585 01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:50,320 consent, clear as day. And doing it very well. 1586 01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:52,560 And doing it very well. Yeah. 1587 01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:56,640 Yeah, so he brought that up. We're in episode 4. 1588 01:36:56,640 --> 01:37:00,240 He kisses her. This is after like they get into 1589 01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:02,800 this scuffle. Yeah, yeah. 1590 01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:06,640 At the bar that same night, they get into a scuffle and they 1591 01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:09,440 start running. They book it and they're evading 1592 01:37:09,440 --> 01:37:12,520 the police and these awful like gangster like young people who 1593 01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:16,440 like came over and laid hands on running man, triggering a 1594 01:37:16,440 --> 01:37:18,160 Tourette's episode. A Tourette's? 1595 01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:21,640 Yeah. Yeah, so they land back at his 1596 01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:24,840 office till apartment and he kisses her. 1597 01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:27,920 And I remember this scene like it was yesterday, like I was 1598 01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:30,240 watching it. I was like Oh my God, yes, he 1599 01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:32,880 kisses her. I don't know if I like the 1600 01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:37,680 placement of this kiss though, because she just finished saying 1601 01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:41,800 how much how she's much better than she was 10 years ago in 1602 01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:47,920 terms of like the severity of her phobia of her complex that 1603 01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:49,760 she can kiss and stand to be touched. 1604 01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:54,120 Now she's worked on how she perceives love, but while she's 1605 01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:58,400 off medication and not breaking out in cold sweats over kissing 1606 01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:00,240 a guy, she's still working on it. 1607 01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:01,680 Yeah, exactly. It's. 1608 01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:04,680 Still a work in progress. And he kisses her right after 1609 01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:06,200 this. And I was like, what? 1610 01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:11,600 And right after he had just talked about consent and like, 1611 01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:14,520 if she doesn't want to and all this stuff and she's so averse 1612 01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:20,840 to him right so far in the show. And he's just like, plants one 1613 01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:23,080 on her. And I'm like, I don't know if 1614 01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:26,000 that's the best lad. Like, it doesn't land. 1615 01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:31,720 Yeah, like 10 years later. That's probably a dated kiss, if 1616 01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:35,720 I if I would say. So what he was saying before the 1617 01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:40,000 kiss was you keep imagining like the way that she's prepping 1618 01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:43,800 herself for a scenario where she's going to kiss a guy or 1619 01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:46,760 she's going to have sex or something is she keeps imagining 1620 01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:50,800 like kissing somebody over and over again and it's sort of like 1621 01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:53,400 desensitizing her to the concept of it. 1622 01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:56,000 And he's just like, you just got to do it. 1623 01:38:56,120 --> 01:38:58,080 Yeah, and he's like, you just got to do it. 1624 01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:03,800 And that's when he kisses her so I understand what he was on 1625 01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:08,080 about but also like not. It's not timed very well I would 1626 01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:08,960 say. Not good timing. 1627 01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:13,720 She slaps him, but then this, the follow up, I was like, this 1628 01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:17,960 is strangely super sexy because she gets up to leave. 1629 01:39:18,480 --> 01:39:22,320 He has a like up against a wall and he keeps turning on and off 1630 01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:28,120 the lights using and then he's like using a lighter to like 1631 01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:30,560 light up the room and light them up as well. 1632 01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:34,640 And his face is right there in front of her, basically 1633 01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:36,760 caressing. Hers is very intimate. 1634 01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:41,800 And he's making this gigantic point that when she finally 1635 01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:47,360 falls in love, it'll only be a moment that will lift this love 1636 01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:49,800 darkness that she's been experiencing. 1637 01:39:50,360 --> 01:39:54,800 And it's OK that she hasn't loved for 30 years and that her 1638 01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:57,840 300 day relationship ended like it's fine. 1639 01:39:58,440 --> 01:40:00,840 Just kind of, yeah. Almost comforting her, but in 1640 01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:04,880 this very cheeky way. It's in his very own way. 1641 01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:07,840 I would say it's very him the way he does it. 1642 01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:12,080 Yeah, exactly. But I like that part more than 1643 01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:16,440 the kiss that preceded that. I would agree. 1644 01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:20,000 I would agree. There's little zingers here and 1645 01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:22,720 there that are like a little bit problematic and dated and it's 1646 01:40:23,400 --> 01:40:27,560 running man is worried because she didn't come home last night. 1647 01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:31,560 She ended up she was so like tired and drunk that she just 1648 01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:36,920 slept over at his house in in the office till running man is 1649 01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:39,560 worried. He's like, what if the male lead 1650 01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:43,440 like raped her? He's got valid concern, right? 1651 01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:47,000 Valid concern. Completely valid concern, but 1652 01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:52,360 the Sombe dock says. Do you think she'd fall victim 1653 01:40:52,360 --> 01:40:56,160 to that? And is the male lead lacking 1654 01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:59,120 that he'd resort to raping her basically? 1655 01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:05,600 And I was like, that is totally flawed, outmoded thinking. 1656 01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:08,920 Could happen to anyone. Yes. 1657 01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:13,760 So I was like, Oh no. You're showing your age now. 1658 01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:16,680 Yes, that was that little thing was showing its age. 1659 01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:22,800 They go and visit this like schizophrenic, old schizophrenic 1660 01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:27,840 patient of hers who's pregnant but married, married and 1661 01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:30,400 pregnant now. Foreshadowing Foreshadowing. 1662 01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:36,200 Foreshadowing. Yeah, but he saves her from 1663 01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:40,720 drowning because she has like a suicidal attempt. 1664 01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:41,760 Episode. Yeah. 1665 01:41:42,440 --> 01:41:43,640 This whole thing was really strange. 1666 01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:45,760 I thought this was really strange because the scene. 1667 01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:48,680 Of was. Mostly because of the staging of 1668 01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:53,000 it was weird. She's standing with her husband 1669 01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:58,560 at the shore and all of a sudden she's like 20 feet out in the 1670 01:41:58,560 --> 01:41:59,840 water. He made it nowhere. 1671 01:41:59,840 --> 01:42:01,440 And her husband's still on the shore. 1672 01:42:01,440 --> 01:42:03,320 And I'm like, yeah, what was he doing? 1673 01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:05,320 He, she was standing right next to him. 1674 01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:07,600 It's not like he went anywhere. And then he came back and she 1675 01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:10,200 was trying to commit suicide by, like, drowning herself. 1676 01:42:10,480 --> 01:42:14,400 No, he was still standing there, like yelling at her to come 1677 01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:16,120 back. And I'm like, what the fuck? 1678 01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:18,600 I I was confused about the logistics on that. 1679 01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:20,480 I was like, does he not know how to swim? 1680 01:42:20,480 --> 01:42:22,920 But even if. Not then he got in the water and 1681 01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:28,480 that's like right then he got in the water and he couldn't swim. 1682 01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:31,720 So then two people were drowning a drowning. 1683 01:42:32,360 --> 01:42:37,800 But then then the male lead goes out and someone else goes to get 1684 01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:41,080 the husband and the male lead goes to get the pregnant 1685 01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:44,960 schizophrenic wife. So it's just the scene at the 1686 01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:50,240 the shot of him grabbing her and then just standing up in like 4 1687 01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:54,400 feet of water with her on his shoulder, pounding on him, 1688 01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:56,240 beating on him, struggling against him. 1689 01:42:56,240 --> 01:43:00,800 But then she like just all of a sudden goes limp and the female 1690 01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:04,080 lead has to do see like terrible CPR on her. 1691 01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:05,240 That's just. So bad. 1692 01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:08,120 It's so bad. I was like, that is not CPR. 1693 01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:11,400 That's something else. Yeah, so bad. 1694 01:43:11,480 --> 01:43:14,880 So that whole scene, I was like, can we just like, delete it? 1695 01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:16,160 Like, I don't know. What is this? 1696 01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:17,200 It's not. Necessary. 1697 01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:23,160 So I didn't like that they end up spending the night, I think, 1698 01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:27,040 out in this town. And she asked him, are you 1699 01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:29,440 someone who thinks love conquers all too? 1700 01:43:29,440 --> 01:43:33,480 That love will always give you only happiness, joy, flutters 1701 01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:36,440 and courage. And he says it will also give 1702 01:43:36,440 --> 01:43:39,960 pain, blame, hurt, sadness, despair and misery. 1703 01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:42,640 It will also give the strength to overcome those. 1704 01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:45,080 It has to be at least that to be love. 1705 01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:49,040 And I was like, Oh my God. That's a beautiful description, 1706 01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:51,840 yeah. She catches him asleep in the 1707 01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:55,960 park bathroom. The cleanest park bathroom that 1708 01:43:55,960 --> 01:44:00,000 I've ever seen in my life. So clean I was like where? 1709 01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:05,240 Share your tips. Sparkling and he shares with her 1710 01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:08,360 that his stepfather would beat him and his older brother would 1711 01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:11,720 beat him. His older brother would beat him 1712 01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:16,640 for getting beat by the stepdad. So one day the stepdad 1713 01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:21,080 physically abused him so bad because he wanted the gambling 1714 01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:23,600 money. So homeboy just took off on 1715 01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:24,880 foot, no? Shoes. 1716 01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:29,800 Just like Dio earlier in the show. 1717 01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:33,080 And that is key. That is such a key. 1718 01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:38,160 So key, Because it was a rural town, there weren't many places 1719 01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:42,760 to hide, so we just hid in the public latrine and dove into the 1720 01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:46,680 filthy pile of shit at the bottom just to evade his 1721 01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:49,640 stepdad. And he's laughing as he tells 1722 01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:53,280 the story. And since then he's slept in the 1723 01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:56,480 bathroom because he's felt it's the safest place. 1724 01:44:56,480 --> 01:45:01,320 So this is like another piece of the puzzle right for our mill 1725 01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:04,960 lead is that he has OCD, which we'd never even covered before, 1726 01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:08,080 but he has OCDI think it's pretty mild, but he has OCD. 1727 01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:10,160 He sleeps in the bathroom because it's safe. 1728 01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:12,720 Based on childhood trauma. Yep. 1729 01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:17,320 And she's OK with these things. She understands him. 1730 01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:21,240 She understands what it is. And she knows that her, his 1731 01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:25,440 brother is in prison for murder and she's OK. 1732 01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,640 It's just like he has found his person. 1733 01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:34,720 He has because he's truly shown her all of his aspects and she 1734 01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:38,160 still there. She's not running for the hills. 1735 01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:41,200 So. They go on this hike in this 1736 01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:44,920 most beautiful valley with the most beautiful water feature, 1737 01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:48,680 and he dunks her in this like Clearwater. 1738 01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:50,680 They're playing around, splashing together. 1739 01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:53,200 All this I remember from my original watch. 1740 01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:56,480 I was like, Oh my God, it's, it's so vivid. 1741 01:45:56,880 --> 01:46:00,120 It's beautiful. He kisses her again. 1742 01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:04,080 And. She's speechless, she's 1743 01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:07,360 flustered, her heart's beating wildly, she's having a physical 1744 01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:11,560 reaction to him, she doesn't know what to do with herself and 1745 01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:13,280 they like have a full on make out session. 1746 01:46:13,440 --> 01:46:17,400 Yep. She is rocked like to her core 1747 01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:21,640 after this whole interaction, they had to go get new clothes. 1748 01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:23,720 Like he low key like buys her clothes. 1749 01:46:24,440 --> 01:46:26,240 That's another like little trope as well. 1750 01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:28,840 And he confronts her outside the car. 1751 01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:32,320 He wants to know if this reaction that she's having 1752 01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:36,280 because she's trying to push him away is because of her anxiety 1753 01:46:36,280 --> 01:46:38,720 disorder or not. Like what's going on. 1754 01:46:39,160 --> 01:46:42,200 He says the second kiss because they kissed again and they made 1755 01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:44,440 out. He's like that second kiss. 1756 01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:47,200 You like that one like? He's like, yeah, yeah, he's. 1757 01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:49,120 Literally like in her face about it. 1758 01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:51,880 He's like, no, we got to talk about it because you like that 1759 01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:54,160 kiss. She was into that one. 1760 01:46:54,360 --> 01:46:56,680 She's like denial, denial, denial. 1761 01:46:57,480 --> 01:46:59,800 Yeah, she. Thinks and she keeps saying like 1762 01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:03,280 throughout the show he's such a Playboy he'll just hate on 1763 01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:06,840 anyone. And it's basically like she's 1764 01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:09,840 she's trying to like distance herself from him because she 1765 01:47:09,840 --> 01:47:13,160 doesn't want to get hurt and he does give off Playboy vibes. 1766 01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:14,920 So anyway. He really does. 1767 01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:18,600 He does. He's such a player, so. 1768 01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:24,200 That's like as you as again, as the show goes on, that's just 1769 01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:28,320 the facade that starts to peel away from him, and it's so 1770 01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:33,800 nicely done. So he says not just anyone. 1771 01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:37,520 He doesn't just flirt and hit on anyone but people I have 1772 01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:40,320 feelings for. I wasn't just hitting on you, I 1773 01:47:40,320 --> 01:47:45,400 kissed you because I like you. And he full on confesses. 1774 01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:49,760 He does and it's like it's so and The thing is, I will say 1775 01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:54,160 when I while I was watching it, I was like, Oh my God, he's 1776 01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:57,120 already confessing. It's only episode 5 and he's 1777 01:47:57,120 --> 01:47:59,840 already confessing. It's like, you know what I mean? 1778 01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:06,240 Everything happens quite early, but has this show proved that's 1779 01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:10,120 fine, It works out, that's fine? Yeah, yeah. 1780 01:48:10,440 --> 01:48:12,320 This is the episode, I think it's episode 6. 1781 01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:15,360 He fights with Dio's dad in this rural area. 1782 01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:20,760 This is my OST background music. OK. 1783 01:48:21,160 --> 01:48:23,720 Problem that I had with this scene, right? 1784 01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:27,480 Talk to me. So first of all, I wrote down 1785 01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:34,840 that because these are my notes before knowing that Dio was 1786 01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:40,520 imaginary, right? So I write even if the male lead 1787 01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:45,440 is damaged, he still tried to help like Dio's character like 1788 01:48:45,440 --> 01:48:51,200 because he see and like I wrote this because he sees himself in 1789 01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:57,520 Dio's character and I'm like. How true that was. 1790 01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:01,880 How true that was. And I was like, this is wild. 1791 01:49:02,040 --> 01:49:06,360 But the little thing that I said is so while this scene is 1792 01:49:06,360 --> 01:49:11,440 happening, they sort of have almost like this cheery 1793 01:49:11,440 --> 01:49:15,440 background music happening. It's kind of like this. 1794 01:49:15,440 --> 01:49:20,280 I don't know, but it's kind of like it sounds it. 1795 01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:22,600 Remember what the needle drop was on that? 1796 01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:25,960 Is it the So let me go. No. 1797 01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:30,440 No no, no, no, no. Like it wasn't even AI. 1798 01:49:30,440 --> 01:49:35,120 Don't think it was a song itself, I think it was just like 1799 01:49:35,120 --> 01:49:37,400 a background music. I. 1800 01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:39,040 Can't. I can't. 1801 01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:42,160 Quite remember, but what I wrote is I didn't like how there was 1802 01:49:42,160 --> 01:49:46,280 almost a cheery song playing while this scene was happening 1803 01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:50,560 because it almost like when I, I, I spoke to my friend about 1804 01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:53,960 this and I said to her, this has been so far the only thing that 1805 01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:57,160 I haven't liked because it's such a heavy scene. 1806 01:49:57,400 --> 01:50:01,120 Obviously at that point, I don't know that he's imaginary and 1807 01:50:01,120 --> 01:50:04,880 that realistically nothing is happening around him. 1808 01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:10,520 He's just on the floor in fetal position, but nobody is around 1809 01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:12,760 him. Like I don't know that when I'm 1810 01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:17,080 watching this episode. So to me, there's a real 1811 01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:21,320 domestic violence scene happening, right? 1812 01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:27,440 And they have this cherry almost like Cherry song or background 1813 01:50:27,440 --> 01:50:31,440 music behind it and it downplays the whole scene. 1814 01:50:31,440 --> 01:50:35,040 It almost like contradicts the scene. 1815 01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:38,240 I don't remember what it was, but I don't remember feeling 1816 01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:40,160 that way about that particular scene. 1817 01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:44,200 But yeah, like that never happened. 1818 01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:52,840 Like he doesn't find nobody. And I was like, I was like, oh, 1819 01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:57,440 maybe they're trying to downplay the scene because there is no 1820 01:50:57,440 --> 01:50:59,040 scene. The scene is irrelevant. 1821 01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:01,440 Oh, very true. Like maybe they picked the music 1822 01:51:01,440 --> 01:51:04,000 so that it's almost to throw us off the scent. 1823 01:51:04,280 --> 01:51:07,560 Exactly. So I was like by the end, but 1824 01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:11,560 while I was in that moment, you. Were like, what's up with him? 1825 01:51:12,480 --> 01:51:16,400 Exactly. Watching this man getting beaten 1826 01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:20,880 up and this kid all beaten up and this mother all beat, I was 1827 01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:26,440 like, I don't like it So because it always felt like it was this 1828 01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:31,560 disrespectful to like the hard moment that we were watching on 1829 01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:35,480 screen. But then again, you come back 6 1830 01:51:35,480 --> 01:51:39,240 episodes later or however many, 5, four episodes like, well, 1831 01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:43,040 however many and it's like it's irrelevant because that scene 1832 01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:46,360 never happened. And it's kind of like, OK. 1833 01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:50,240 Yeah, I think around here they said like, he goes to the police 1834 01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:52,240 station and they're like, why were you? 1835 01:51:52,480 --> 01:51:55,200 Why were you over there like that? 1836 01:51:55,200 --> 01:51:57,120 The house is abandoned and all this stuff. 1837 01:51:57,120 --> 01:52:00,320 He's like, that's not abandoned. I think it was around this time, 1838 01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:08,040 episode 6-7, that I realized on original watch that Dio was not 1839 01:52:08,040 --> 01:52:10,640 real. He's a hallucination. 1840 01:52:11,280 --> 01:52:14,440 See. I had no clue, No clue until 1841 01:52:14,440 --> 01:52:17,840 they hit you right with it and they reveal it. 1842 01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:22,280 Yeah, I was like, no clue. Maybe, maybe I'm giving myself 1843 01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:24,400 too much credit and it was around here that I was getting 1844 01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:30,120 antsy and getting a little bit like, is DIO not like, but it's 1845 01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:31,600 questioning. Yeah. 1846 01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:36,880 But not fully accepting the fact that idea is not real. 1847 01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:41,120 Unoriginal Watch. Let's shout this character and 1848 01:52:41,120 --> 01:52:44,000 you it's. So it's so tangible. 1849 01:52:45,160 --> 01:52:48,960 It's it's, it's hard to explain unless you watch it, but it is 1850 01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:51,920 such a Tangier. It's like, again, I've made the 1851 01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:56,080 comparison of 6th sense before. It's like sixth sense. 1852 01:52:56,080 --> 01:53:01,800 Like, you're like, this is a real tangible person with real 1853 01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:04,560 issues. They have a domestic violence 1854 01:53:04,560 --> 01:53:11,000 situation at home, and he feels particularly called to save him 1855 01:53:11,440 --> 01:53:15,960 because of his own past. It made total sense. 1856 01:53:16,440 --> 01:53:18,200 It made sense. Yeah. 1857 01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:24,320 And I was today, today when I finally like realized that DO 1858 01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:28,200 was not, you know, it was part of his imagination. 1859 01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:31,080 It was part of his psychosis and whatnot. 1860 01:53:31,480 --> 01:53:36,200 I came, I had this thought. How is it that an imaginary 1861 01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:42,680 character is more fleshed out in this show than in 50% of other 1862 01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:45,240 shows out there where the characters are real like. 1863 01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:50,640 Stop. It's like, how is it possible 1864 01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:56,520 that they wrote an imaginary character so well that I would 1865 01:53:56,520 --> 01:54:01,880 be hard pressed to believe you have to pay like super attention 1866 01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:07,040 to every single detail to hit it on the nose before, you know, or 1867 01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:11,320 to get first couple of episodes and, you know, or you, you have 1868 01:54:11,320 --> 01:54:13,280 an inkling. Do you know what I mean? 1869 01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:16,160 Like, you have to to be so. Yeah. 1870 01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:21,240 So I goodness, yeah. I just have one note for episode 1871 01:54:21,240 --> 01:54:22,200 6. Yeah. 1872 01:54:22,480 --> 01:54:28,720 And I said, it's like the whole she goes into his bathroom and 1873 01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:31,640 it's like the camel picture on the wall. 1874 01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:36,240 And I wrote down like, because he says, do you know what the 1875 01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:39,440 picture of the camel is? The nomads of four desert tie up 1876 01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:42,640 their camels at night like this to a tree in the morning. 1877 01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:45,440 They untie the rope, but the camel doesn't run away. 1878 01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:47,800 It doesn't. It's because it remembers the 1879 01:54:47,800 --> 01:54:51,520 night when it was tied to a tree, just like we remember our 1880 01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:54,360 wounds from the past. It means that the wounds from 1881 01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:58,000 the past, the trauma is holding onto our ankles right now. 1882 01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:02,600 And I'm like, stop. Like, this is, it's so well 1883 01:55:02,640 --> 01:55:05,960 written. It's imagery. 1884 01:55:05,960 --> 01:55:11,560 It's imagery done so well. And it's such great dialogue 1885 01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:17,000 because he's explaining exactly what he's feeling through this 1886 01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:19,080 image and like, through art. The trauma. 1887 01:55:19,120 --> 01:55:22,080 Yeah, this trauma is holding on to him. 1888 01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:25,120 And I, I love that little like scene. 1889 01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:28,200 I really did. Yeah, that was beautiful. 1890 01:55:28,440 --> 01:55:35,120 So skipping to episode 8, they go on vacation to Okinawa and 1891 01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:39,640 she tells him that she, I think earlier he had discovered that 1892 01:55:39,640 --> 01:55:45,320 she had her passport in her purse at all times and it's 1893 01:55:45,320 --> 01:55:49,360 because she always wants to be free and travel the world and 1894 01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:50,680 that's why she always keeps it on her. 1895 01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:53,920 So they go to Okinawa. She breaks her arm running 1896 01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:57,120 through the parking lot on the way to the terminal. 1897 01:55:57,120 --> 01:55:59,600 And that's why she has the cast. That's what we were talking 1898 01:55:59,600 --> 01:56:01,280 about in the non spoiler section. 1899 01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:04,400 How about the? Cast on her arm. 1900 01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:09,840 Yeah. He says to her that if he could 1901 01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:12,080 not write, he wouldn't know what to do. 1902 01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:15,600 He jokes that maybe he'd kill himself, like Hemingway. 1903 01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:19,680 And she says that if she was like, what if you couldn't 1904 01:56:19,680 --> 01:56:21,280 write? Of course you could do other 1905 01:56:21,280 --> 01:56:24,880 things, like trying to come at it from a different angle. 1906 01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:27,760 Like, you don't have to kill yourself just because you can't 1907 01:56:27,800 --> 01:56:30,160 write. That doesn't make no sense. 1908 01:56:30,160 --> 01:56:35,080 Like you can do other things. She says she became a doctor 1909 01:56:35,080 --> 01:56:38,360 because when the school kids started calling her dad a 1910 01:56:38,360 --> 01:56:42,280 retard, she decided I'm going to become a doctor. 1911 01:56:42,280 --> 01:56:45,120 And she did, out of pride. She wanted to learn more about 1912 01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:49,200 the human mind, to understand her own mother better, as well 1913 01:56:49,200 --> 01:56:52,680 as understand herself better. She said it was also an 1914 01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:56,240 ascension of class and ambition because she grew up poor. 1915 01:56:56,360 --> 01:56:58,440 She did. I really liked how she kind of 1916 01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:00,640 broke down why she chose her profession. 1917 01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:05,280 And it really had. It wasn't like a noble pursuit, 1918 01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:09,160 right? Which I think is very key is 1919 01:57:09,160 --> 01:57:12,160 that she was like, this is going to elevate me. 1920 01:57:12,520 --> 01:57:16,040 You know, my father was completely incapacitated. 1921 01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:19,080 Like, he became bedridden, essentially. 1922 01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:21,120 My mom became a full time caregiver. 1923 01:57:21,120 --> 01:57:24,400 And this affected me because I was bullied. 1924 01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:28,880 Yeah, my father was bullied. And she's such a strong willed 1925 01:57:28,880 --> 01:57:31,200 character. She was like, fuck all that 1926 01:57:31,200 --> 01:57:32,560 noise. I'm going to become a doctor. 1927 01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:35,320 Yeah, I'm getting one better. Yeah. 1928 01:57:35,320 --> 01:57:37,880 OK. I'll level up, that's all. 1929 01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:42,000 Yeah, and I love that. I think that's different, right? 1930 01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:42,840 She. Wasn't like this. 1931 01:57:42,840 --> 01:57:45,400 Compassionate. She's not this compassionate 1932 01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:49,440 person and that's something that she works on throughout the show 1933 01:57:49,720 --> 01:57:54,320 is she is compassionate, but she's not as compassionate as 1934 01:57:54,320 --> 01:57:57,800 some of like the Doctors and other shows and other case 1935 01:57:57,800 --> 01:57:59,200 dramas that you might come across. 1936 01:57:59,200 --> 01:58:01,440 She is not inherently compassionate. 1937 01:58:01,440 --> 01:58:04,760 It's something that she is working on and something that he 1938 01:58:04,760 --> 01:58:08,960 helps her, the male lead helps her is to gain a new perspective 1939 01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:12,000 on her patients and their unique plans of care. 1940 01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:16,160 He causes her to ask different questions and empathize and 1941 01:58:16,160 --> 01:58:19,000 breakdown even further her prejudices. 1942 01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:23,000 So I really like that about this couple and about her as a 1943 01:58:23,000 --> 01:58:27,760 doctor. In this scene, his phone rings, 1944 01:58:28,160 --> 01:58:33,080 quote UN quote, but it doesn't. Dio is on the line and she goes, 1945 01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:35,680 oh, does your phone ring? He's like, yeah, you didn't do 1946 01:58:35,680 --> 01:58:37,040 it. And he gets up to talk to Dio. 1947 01:58:37,040 --> 01:58:40,560 It is so fucking subtle. It's there, It's there. 1948 01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:43,160 It's all there though. It's literally all there. 1949 01:58:43,600 --> 01:58:46,480 I was so mad at myself for not catching me to that one. 1950 01:58:46,480 --> 01:58:51,720 Yes, so mad. I know at the end of this 1951 01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:53,200 episode they have sex on the beach. 1952 01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:55,760 Big day. What a beautiful scene. 1953 01:58:56,040 --> 01:58:57,840 Beautiful scene. Beautiful scene. 1954 01:58:57,840 --> 01:58:58,640 Beautiful. Scene. 1955 01:59:00,440 --> 01:59:06,280 She she cries post coitus. He's just like strokes her hair. 1956 01:59:06,640 --> 01:59:11,520 He's crying with her. Definitely empathizing with her 1957 01:59:11,520 --> 01:59:13,600 deeply. Where she's at, Yeah. 1958 01:59:13,600 --> 01:59:17,960 Where she's at and he calls himself passive but really he's 1959 01:59:18,160 --> 01:59:19,720 I think he's just empathizing with her. 1960 01:59:19,720 --> 01:59:24,440 He's like feeling with her. And she asks him if he loves her 1961 01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:30,280 and he says yes. And she goes but I don't love 1962 01:59:30,280 --> 01:59:33,240 you yet. And I was like, she's so fucking 1963 01:59:33,240 --> 01:59:36,560 real for that. Like she's so real. 1964 01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:40,400 She's like, it's only been two months since we've known each 1965 01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:43,320 other. And she's just like, I don't 1966 01:59:43,320 --> 01:59:45,040 love you yet. Like I'm not there yet. 1967 01:59:45,080 --> 01:59:46,320 I'm not going to say it back yet. 1968 01:59:47,200 --> 01:59:50,280 And he just like takes it. Yeah, he's just like, OK, it's 1969 01:59:50,280 --> 01:59:51,400 fine. That's cool. 1970 01:59:51,640 --> 01:59:54,120 Yeah. She won't say why she's crying. 1971 01:59:54,440 --> 01:59:59,000 She says she'll share it later and if he hears how bad she's 1972 01:59:59,160 --> 02:00:02,960 really is, what she was thinking about and still loves her, then 1973 02:00:02,960 --> 02:00:05,640 she'll believe that he loves her for real. 1974 02:00:06,760 --> 02:00:11,240 Episode 10 and 11, it's them working through their 1975 02:00:11,240 --> 02:00:15,160 relationship, you know, setting boundaries instead of him 1976 02:00:15,160 --> 02:00:19,600 snapping at her that he's working and writing and not 1977 02:00:19,600 --> 02:00:23,240 using a coherent sentence of like, hey, I'm working. 1978 02:00:23,240 --> 02:00:25,280 Like can you come back in an hour or whatever? 1979 02:00:25,960 --> 02:00:29,400 Or disappearing for days and not calling her while he works and 1980 02:00:29,400 --> 02:00:33,200 neglecting food and sleep. Maybe they can agree to meet on 1981 02:00:33,200 --> 02:00:35,360 certain days so then they come up with like, oh we'll meet on 1982 02:00:35,360 --> 02:00:38,040 Fridays, we'll do date night, yadda yadda. 1983 02:00:38,640 --> 02:00:45,040 The only note that I have for episode 10 is Dio being 1984 02:00:45,040 --> 02:00:48,400 imaginary of our male Eat Get out of here. 1985 02:00:49,360 --> 02:00:51,200 So that's that's when you realize. 1986 02:00:52,040 --> 02:00:56,720 That is when I realized that that is the only note that I 1987 02:00:56,720 --> 02:01:02,080 have for episode 10 because I was like, I get it. 1988 02:01:02,440 --> 02:01:06,560 They're having this whole discourse of like they're trying 1989 02:01:06,560 --> 02:01:09,200 to figure each other out. They're trying to, what they're 1990 02:01:09,200 --> 02:01:14,640 really trying to do is they're trying to figure out how they as 1991 02:01:14,640 --> 02:01:17,440 individuals slot into a relationship. 1992 02:01:17,440 --> 02:01:19,720 That's what they're trying to do, right? 1993 02:01:19,720 --> 02:01:22,240 And I was like, yes, this is very important. 1994 02:01:22,240 --> 02:01:26,400 What about DIO just happened? What just happened? 1995 02:01:26,800 --> 02:01:30,640 What the fuck just happened? Exactly because that's when you 1996 02:01:30,640 --> 02:01:35,200 start to see like his brother gets called in because they find 1997 02:01:35,200 --> 02:01:40,800 his purse out by the house. Like he gets to look at the 1998 02:01:41,720 --> 02:01:44,960 camera footage and he's just like in his fetal position. 1999 02:01:44,960 --> 02:01:50,840 And the Caddy is the TV footage of him in the field on the 2000 02:01:50,840 --> 02:01:54,640 street fighting with nobody. Yeah, is jarring. 2001 02:01:55,040 --> 02:01:57,200 It's so jarring. I was like, what? 2002 02:01:57,200 --> 02:02:02,520 Just so that for that episode and then like even to episode 2003 02:02:02,960 --> 02:02:08,000 11, that was all my brain was focused on and they were having 2004 02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:11,480 all the like these conversations and yes, I I clocked to those 2005 02:02:11,480 --> 02:02:15,640 and yes, I was watching, but all like my, I was like, it felt 2006 02:02:15,640 --> 02:02:20,000 like I was being told. And exactly, you're reeling from 2007 02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:25,560 that and you almost, almost miss everything that's happening with 2008 02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:28,800 our main couple because you're like, but, but I just got hit 2009 02:02:28,800 --> 02:02:34,080 with this and This is why I am not a big rewatcher, but I 2010 02:02:34,080 --> 02:02:36,360 think. You might need to rewatch it. 2011 02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:40,200 Yeah, but I was like, at some point, not in the immediate 2012 02:02:40,200 --> 02:02:44,840 future, you know, not right now. I would say, you know, in a 2013 02:02:44,840 --> 02:02:47,520 couple of years time or whatever, it would be something 2014 02:02:47,520 --> 02:02:51,280 that I would probably not mind going back because now knowing 2015 02:02:51,280 --> 02:02:54,880 what it is and what's happening, I would probably pick up on 2016 02:02:54,880 --> 02:02:57,600 other things that I was just like, for these two episodes, 2017 02:02:57,600 --> 02:02:59,680 like I said, I was just like, what? 2018 02:02:59,680 --> 02:03:03,920 What, what, what, what, what, What do you know that meme, that 2019 02:03:03,920 --> 02:03:07,920 Jennifer Lawrence meme of meme, You know, what do you mean? 2020 02:03:08,000 --> 02:03:11,360 That was me. I was like, what do you mean? 2021 02:03:11,480 --> 02:03:13,040 He said that. What do you mean? 2022 02:03:14,200 --> 02:03:19,240 I thought I was I was waiting for Adm from you or a voice note 2023 02:03:19,240 --> 02:03:24,680 from you for when when you got to these episodes, because I 2024 02:03:24,840 --> 02:03:30,280 recommend their show to people every so often and I expect them 2025 02:03:30,280 --> 02:03:32,800 to circle back and be like, what the fuck? 2026 02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:37,400 Like, because these couple of episodes is when it's truly 2027 02:03:37,400 --> 02:03:40,520 like, this is a reveal. This is when shit hits the fan. 2028 02:03:41,680 --> 02:03:45,640 I feel like these are the episodes when they walk away 2029 02:03:45,640 --> 02:03:49,160 from the ROM com. Like they start, there's still 2030 02:03:49,160 --> 02:03:53,760 bits there, but this is the breakaway from the ROM com and I 2031 02:03:53,760 --> 02:03:56,560 could kind of understand. A tonal shift. 2032 02:03:56,840 --> 02:04:00,000 The tonal shift, this is when it happens. 2033 02:04:00,120 --> 02:04:04,720 But like to me, whereas some people might find that, I don't 2034 02:04:04,720 --> 02:04:08,840 know, they don't like it or they might find that it's, you know, 2035 02:04:08,880 --> 02:04:12,800 they don't see it coming. I always thought there was going 2036 02:04:12,800 --> 02:04:15,880 to be a tonal shift. I just didn't think it was going 2037 02:04:15,880 --> 02:04:19,480 to be done in this manner. I didn't expect it to be with 2038 02:04:19,480 --> 02:04:24,360 him getting severely, you know, him being ill and him having. 2039 02:04:24,800 --> 02:04:29,240 Yeah, like I didn't see that necessarily being the tonal 2040 02:04:29,240 --> 02:04:33,680 shift, but I saw that there was going to be 1 coming because 2041 02:04:33,680 --> 02:04:37,400 like you can't stain, you know, 16 episodes. 2042 02:04:37,400 --> 02:04:42,600 And plus by that point our female lead is fairly, we've got 2043 02:04:43,120 --> 02:04:46,600 quotation marks exactly. So like. 2044 02:04:46,640 --> 02:04:51,120 What else is going to happen? So it's going to have to be his 2045 02:04:51,120 --> 02:04:54,240 story in the second-half. And I always thought it was 2046 02:04:54,240 --> 02:04:58,240 going to be his brother and like that whole situation, which it 2047 02:04:58,240 --> 02:05:03,840 is, right, It is, but I always thought but it's not at the same 2048 02:05:03,840 --> 02:05:07,280 time because it's like it's the male lead. 2049 02:05:07,280 --> 02:05:09,360 That's where the focus is on it's truly. 2050 02:05:09,640 --> 02:05:11,920 Smart. I mean, it's their story and how 2051 02:05:11,920 --> 02:05:15,800 they, how they endure, how they work through it, how she 2052 02:05:15,800 --> 02:05:21,520 processes this news and how he processes the news that he's 2053 02:05:21,520 --> 02:05:23,840 actually schizophrenic. Yeah. 2054 02:05:24,560 --> 02:05:26,920 It's wild. I'm like, it's wild. 2055 02:05:27,000 --> 02:05:32,000 I yeah, for those two episodes, like I said, I was just reeling. 2056 02:05:32,000 --> 02:05:34,640 I was like, what do you mean? And. 2057 02:05:35,000 --> 02:05:38,640 It's not like they didn't. It's not like they did it like 2058 02:05:38,720 --> 02:05:42,000 without laying any Easter eggs for us. 2059 02:05:42,160 --> 02:05:44,040 It's there. It's there. 2060 02:05:44,480 --> 02:05:46,400 This was. Always the plan. 2061 02:05:47,040 --> 02:05:50,960 Yeah, and as soon as they say it, it clicks in your mind. 2062 02:05:50,960 --> 02:05:52,960 You're like, Oh my God. This makes sense this. 2063 02:05:52,960 --> 02:05:55,880 Scene makes sense. This makes how did I not see 2064 02:05:55,880 --> 02:06:00,440 that how dumb I am? And it's like it's brilliant 2065 02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:06,400 that a script or a show makes you feel dumb in the best way, 2066 02:06:06,560 --> 02:06:11,200 in the best way. Because it's like, because I 2067 02:06:11,560 --> 02:06:16,080 watching this now, I've watched a lot of dramas, a lot of 2068 02:06:16,080 --> 02:06:20,360 things, and I feel like I can see a lot of things coming. 2069 02:06:20,360 --> 02:06:25,240 Like it just sort of happens. Yeah, you get comfortable with 2070 02:06:25,240 --> 02:06:27,920 the plot piece, with the writing, the style. 2071 02:06:28,480 --> 02:06:31,560 You just, and I'm sure other people that have watched lots of 2072 02:06:31,560 --> 02:06:34,720 dramas feel the same way. You're it takes a lot for to 2073 02:06:34,720 --> 02:06:36,720 surprise you. Exactly. 2074 02:06:36,720 --> 02:06:40,240 Exactly. So when it's a lot rarer 2075 02:06:40,240 --> 02:06:44,120 nowadays that I'm like so shocked and so caught off God, 2076 02:06:44,120 --> 02:06:48,280 Oh my God, I promise. And this happened and I was 2077 02:06:48,280 --> 02:06:50,920 like, what? What? 2078 02:06:50,920 --> 02:06:54,680 Oh my. God, I'm like turning red. 2079 02:06:54,680 --> 02:06:57,520 I'm so like jazzed. I'm like so pumped. 2080 02:06:57,880 --> 02:07:03,360 Yeah, so I I was just like, I can't believe that a 10 year old 2081 02:07:03,360 --> 02:07:06,040 drama is that is like it's that good. 2082 02:07:06,040 --> 02:07:09,520 I can predict the plots of pretty much touch everything 2083 02:07:09,520 --> 02:07:12,880 that I'm watching right now, but a 10 year old drama is just like 2084 02:07:13,280 --> 02:07:15,400 taking it out. Yeah. 2085 02:07:15,400 --> 02:07:18,880 I like I said, those two episodes, I was absolutely 2086 02:07:18,920 --> 02:07:20,720 reeling. Absolutely reeling. 2087 02:07:21,280 --> 02:07:24,640 Yeah. And I have to say, going back to 2088 02:07:24,640 --> 02:07:28,440 the fan wars for a minute for it's it's OK to not be OK. 2089 02:07:28,680 --> 02:07:31,680 There is a twist in it's OK to not be OK. 2090 02:07:32,280 --> 02:07:35,600 There is for the identity of a character that you had seen 2091 02:07:35,600 --> 02:07:39,480 throughout the show. I always felt that that was the 2092 02:07:39,480 --> 02:07:44,360 most contrived, shitty reveal of the show. 2093 02:07:45,480 --> 02:07:47,280 Because they've done. So much better. 2094 02:07:47,680 --> 02:07:49,360 They could have written it better. 2095 02:07:49,360 --> 02:07:52,520 Like it was just not it. There were no Easter eggs. 2096 02:07:53,000 --> 02:07:55,120 It comes out of nowhere. It comes out of nowhere. 2097 02:07:55,840 --> 02:08:01,080 That is, you know, a tonal shift really big that nobody sees 2098 02:08:01,080 --> 02:08:02,880 coming. Like, but you don't see it 2099 02:08:02,880 --> 02:08:04,800 coming because there's nothing there. 2100 02:08:05,080 --> 02:08:11,400 This I will absolutely agree. This one, for example, it makes 2101 02:08:11,400 --> 02:08:15,040 you feel dumb because it's all there, like all there, all 2102 02:08:15,040 --> 02:08:16,720 appeal, all the info. Yeah. 2103 02:08:16,960 --> 02:08:19,920 You just don't know how to put it together until they you. 2104 02:08:19,920 --> 02:08:22,200 Just got bamboozled. Yeah, exactly. 2105 02:08:22,320 --> 02:08:29,520 Whereas with it's OK to not be OK, they don't give you 2106 02:08:29,560 --> 02:08:31,760 anything. So when it happens it's like I'm 2107 02:08:31,760 --> 02:08:34,120 not dumb, they just didn't do it properly. 2108 02:08:34,360 --> 02:08:38,680 Right, right. So I'm being facetious, but 2109 02:08:38,680 --> 02:08:41,320 like, if you want to talk about writing. 2110 02:08:41,600 --> 02:08:47,200 Anyway, going back to our show, I am so glad that it caught you 2111 02:08:47,600 --> 02:08:50,160 off guard. Oh my God, so off God. 2112 02:08:50,400 --> 02:08:54,600 I was not prepared for what hit me and by that point I love that 2113 02:08:54,600 --> 02:08:56,040 character. I. 2114 02:08:56,720 --> 02:09:01,520 You're so invested in his journey, in his, in his 2115 02:09:01,960 --> 02:09:06,840 problems, in his complexes and in his childhood trauma. 2116 02:09:06,840 --> 02:09:10,160 Everything about him is so clear. 2117 02:09:10,720 --> 02:09:16,680 Yeah, I wanted him to finish his book and succeed and get out of 2118 02:09:16,680 --> 02:09:19,480 that shitty situation with his mother. 2119 02:09:19,760 --> 02:09:23,760 And then it's like, oh, OK, then it does come back. 2120 02:09:23,760 --> 02:09:27,000 And he says, if you want to see me, just look in the mirror and 2121 02:09:27,000 --> 02:09:30,000 look at what you've built. And that's the scene that we 2122 02:09:30,000 --> 02:09:34,480 have to get to because bowling, I was bowling. 2123 02:09:34,480 --> 02:09:38,680 And The thing is, I was watching this every day before I went to 2124 02:09:38,720 --> 02:09:41,880 work, like, because I have time in the morning. 2125 02:09:41,880 --> 02:09:44,960 And I was, like, crying my eyes out. 2126 02:09:44,960 --> 02:09:47,160 And I'm like, what do I do with myself? 2127 02:09:47,160 --> 02:09:50,880 Like, what do I do with myself going into work now? 2128 02:09:51,280 --> 02:09:54,760 But yeah, it's like, you care about this character. 2129 02:09:54,760 --> 02:09:57,400 You want to see him succeed. You want to see him? 2130 02:09:57,400 --> 02:10:00,720 Well, exactly. And it's like, oh, he's not 2131 02:10:00,720 --> 02:10:02,000 real. He's not. 2132 02:10:03,800 --> 02:10:07,400 OK, So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna go really fast through the 2133 02:10:07,400 --> 02:10:10,280 next couple of episodes and then we're gonna get into the finale 2134 02:10:10,280 --> 02:10:13,760 episodes and we can talk about his treatment because that's 2135 02:10:13,760 --> 02:10:16,760 what the final few episodes is, is because he has to get 2136 02:10:16,760 --> 02:10:18,680 admitted. Like there's no other way around 2137 02:10:18,680 --> 02:10:19,400 it. Yeah. 2138 02:10:19,400 --> 02:10:25,480 So yeah, in episode 11 they go on a on a talk show cuz he's got 2139 02:10:25,480 --> 02:10:30,080 he's like a radio DJ part time. They talk about the Before 2140 02:10:30,080 --> 02:10:34,840 trilogy from Richard Linklater. Do you know those 3 movies? 2141 02:10:34,840 --> 02:10:38,520 No, I don't. Oh my God you have to watch 2142 02:10:38,520 --> 02:10:41,320 those 3 movies they're so good. It stars I. 2143 02:10:41,400 --> 02:10:45,840 Swear to God, every time I record with you, you discover 2144 02:10:45,840 --> 02:10:47,600 that I haven't watched something you. 2145 02:10:47,600 --> 02:10:49,760 Gotta watch these movies. They're so good. 2146 02:10:50,640 --> 02:10:52,920 You have to watch them. It's called the before trilogy 2147 02:10:52,920 --> 02:10:55,960 because there's 3 movies in the trilogy and they all have before 2148 02:10:55,960 --> 02:10:59,000 in the title. So it stars Julie Delpy and 2149 02:10:59,000 --> 02:11:02,120 Ethan Hawke when they, I've totally forgot that they did 2150 02:11:02,120 --> 02:11:05,920 this, but he they particularly talk about Before Midnight, 2151 02:11:05,920 --> 02:11:09,120 which is the last movie in the trilogy and it shows. 2152 02:11:09,120 --> 02:11:13,000 It's the same couple at different phases in their life, 2153 02:11:13,600 --> 02:11:15,800 at different stages in their relationship. 2154 02:11:16,680 --> 02:11:20,800 And at this stage and before midnight, they're married and 2155 02:11:20,800 --> 02:11:24,640 they're in their 40's. The female lead chose to cover 2156 02:11:24,640 --> 02:11:31,440 this movie on his radio show for the ending scene, which is a big 2157 02:11:31,440 --> 02:11:33,760 fight. And in this point in the show, 2158 02:11:33,760 --> 02:11:36,680 they're fighting like they're they're on the House. 2159 02:11:37,000 --> 02:11:40,000 Yeah, she says. For me, unlike the two main 2160 02:11:40,000 --> 02:11:43,640 characters in Notting Hill or Pretty Woman, not because 2161 02:11:43,640 --> 02:11:47,680 they're characters whom anyone would fall in love with, not 2162 02:11:47,680 --> 02:11:51,440 because they're pretty, sexy, cool, nor because they're young, 2163 02:11:51,800 --> 02:11:55,880 but just because it's you, just because it is that person, even 2164 02:11:55,880 --> 02:11:59,120 if they are a little lacking, I'll tempered and old, they're 2165 02:11:59,120 --> 02:12:04,040 loving relationship despite all that was very moving to me, just 2166 02:12:04,040 --> 02:12:06,520 like the couple. And before midnight, they 2167 02:12:06,520 --> 02:12:10,600 reconcile at the end of the movie and they reconcile at the 2168 02:12:10,600 --> 02:12:14,200 end of the broadcast. And I thought that was a very 2169 02:12:14,280 --> 02:12:23,280 like they the pull of the Before trilogy is so cool and 2170 02:12:23,360 --> 02:12:28,400 significant to me because they've have characteristics of 2171 02:12:28,400 --> 02:12:32,240 those two characters from the Before trilogy, Ethan Hawke's 2172 02:12:32,240 --> 02:12:37,280 character and Julie Delby. They are like very witty and 2173 02:12:37,280 --> 02:12:43,240 clever and well read intelligent people that are constantly 2174 02:12:43,400 --> 02:12:48,640 butting heads intellectually and like having these teta tets and 2175 02:12:48,840 --> 02:12:52,960 and verbal teta tets. It's this like bickering banter 2176 02:12:52,960 --> 02:12:54,320 between them? Yeah. 2177 02:12:54,800 --> 02:12:59,560 Quick dialogue, but they have this intense sexual chemistry 2178 02:12:59,560 --> 02:13:02,000 and they love each other and they would do anything for each 2179 02:13:02,000 --> 02:13:04,320 other and they'd just grow together. 2180 02:13:04,640 --> 02:13:07,760 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that is what this couple is. 2181 02:13:08,040 --> 02:13:12,640 It it definitely is. So they go grocery shopping 2182 02:13:12,640 --> 02:13:14,920 together in this episode as well, which is very significant. 2183 02:13:14,920 --> 02:13:18,040 It's a very domestic chore. Only committed couples of 2184 02:13:18,040 --> 02:13:20,360 married couples do this in Korea. 2185 02:13:20,360 --> 02:13:24,240 So it's a very big deal. And she's so contrary. 2186 02:13:24,240 --> 02:13:29,000 I just love that she's almost purposely difficult, like in 2187 02:13:29,000 --> 02:13:32,840 this moment especially. She asks if he prefers seasoned 2188 02:13:32,840 --> 02:13:35,640 soybeans or horseradish. Soybeans, he says seasoned. 2189 02:13:35,640 --> 02:13:37,640 She puts the opposite in the cart. 2190 02:13:37,640 --> 02:13:40,360 She asks apple juice or orange juice. 2191 02:13:40,480 --> 02:13:42,960 He says apple juice she gets. She puts orange juice in the 2192 02:13:42,960 --> 02:13:45,440 cart and says they can juice the apples they have at home and 2193 02:13:45,440 --> 02:13:48,400 drink that. His face is so priceless. 2194 02:13:48,400 --> 02:13:55,760 He's just like, like, Oh, my God, like, he's like, so annoyed 2195 02:13:56,040 --> 02:14:00,280 but mildly entertained. And she kisses him in the aisle 2196 02:14:00,280 --> 02:14:02,040 and there's couples all in the background. 2197 02:14:02,040 --> 02:14:05,320 And it's just such a cool scene. Like, you're just like, Oh my 2198 02:14:05,320 --> 02:14:07,920 God. Like they're going all the way. 2199 02:14:07,920 --> 02:14:10,680 They've been talking all this time about, like, marriage. 2200 02:14:10,680 --> 02:14:13,040 And they talk about babies in the next scene. 2201 02:14:13,040 --> 02:14:17,120 He wants 3, she wants one. This was, I think, the moment 2202 02:14:17,120 --> 02:14:19,560 where I, like, deviated from really liking him to, like, 2203 02:14:20,240 --> 02:14:22,360 maybe not so much. And it's just my personal 2204 02:14:22,360 --> 02:14:25,480 preference. She asked what his ideal wife 2205 02:14:25,640 --> 02:14:29,320 would be, and he says his ideal wife would give birth every 2206 02:14:29,320 --> 02:14:33,120 three years to a total of three children, spacing out the kids 2207 02:14:33,600 --> 02:14:35,920 as one does every exactly every three years. 2208 02:14:36,480 --> 02:14:39,640 And Yep, have dinner ready when he gets home. 2209 02:14:39,960 --> 02:14:41,720 Just basically be a stay at home mom. 2210 02:14:41,880 --> 02:14:45,760 And she laughs in his face. She's like, like. 2211 02:14:45,880 --> 02:14:48,080 That's not me. Yeah, that's not me. 2212 02:14:48,280 --> 02:14:50,280 Yeah, that's exactly what's happening. 2213 02:14:50,640 --> 02:14:55,080 Not happening. And it's just like such a common 2214 02:14:55,080 --> 02:14:59,640 thing that you hear Korean men want the stay at home mom or 2215 02:15:00,760 --> 02:15:05,200 just that concept of women will quit their jobs when they get 2216 02:15:05,200 --> 02:15:08,520 married, quit their jobs when they have children in Korea, 2217 02:15:08,920 --> 02:15:12,720 which contributes to them just not getting paid as much in 2218 02:15:12,720 --> 02:15:19,640 Korea and and the gender wage gap and all sorts of shit right 2219 02:15:19,880 --> 02:15:22,440 in Korea. And she's over here. 2220 02:15:22,440 --> 02:15:25,360 She is a highly educated professional. 2221 02:15:25,680 --> 02:15:27,400 She's like, I've worked hard for my degree. 2222 02:15:27,400 --> 02:15:30,120 She's like. I have speed debt and I'm not 2223 02:15:30,120 --> 02:15:34,760 gonna give up my profession. I like worked hard. 2224 02:15:36,640 --> 02:15:40,440 She's like, maybe I want one, if that. 2225 02:15:41,560 --> 02:15:44,280 If that. She's just so real, like it's a 2226 02:15:44,320 --> 02:15:47,760 tangible character. Anyway, moving forward, his 2227 02:15:47,760 --> 02:15:50,400 hallucination gets stronger and stronger with Dio. 2228 02:15:51,160 --> 02:15:54,840 It's revealed that neither brother, the male lead or the 2229 02:15:54,840 --> 02:15:56,880 imprisoned brother killed the stepdad. 2230 02:15:57,280 --> 02:16:01,080 He died of asphyxiation. So the mother who lit the fire 2231 02:16:01,080 --> 02:16:04,240 that burned their house down is to blame. 2232 02:16:04,240 --> 02:16:06,600 She's the one who actually killed the stepfather. 2233 02:16:06,600 --> 02:16:09,880 The mother is under like disassociation. 2234 02:16:09,880 --> 02:16:15,160 She's completely forgotten that she did this arson back in the 2235 02:16:15,160 --> 02:16:17,120 day which ended up killing the dad. 2236 02:16:17,400 --> 02:16:20,280 The fact, the way that the doctor put that together, 2237 02:16:20,280 --> 02:16:23,360 though? Oh yeah, that the mirror thing. 2238 02:16:24,040 --> 02:16:28,280 Yeah, I was just like, really? Really I was like, that's a 2239 02:16:28,280 --> 02:16:29,400 threat I will let. You have it. 2240 02:16:29,640 --> 02:16:30,960 Yeah, Yeah. I'll let you have it. 2241 02:16:31,000 --> 02:16:33,959 There's been a lot of like non K dramatisms in this. 2242 02:16:34,120 --> 02:16:36,840 We'll give you this K Dramatism. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2243 02:16:36,840 --> 02:16:40,639 We'll let you have it. We'll, we'll look the other way. 2244 02:16:41,360 --> 02:16:44,959 So he proposes to her at the end of this episode. 2245 02:16:45,559 --> 02:16:49,680 She's shocked, she's shocked. And I think at the beginning of 2246 02:16:49,680 --> 02:16:53,280 episode 12, he basically tells her, like, put me into your life 2247 02:16:53,280 --> 02:16:55,760 schedule. I've already put you into mine, 2248 02:16:56,440 --> 02:16:59,639 which is a very nice concept because she's like, I have all 2249 02:16:59,639 --> 02:17:01,280 these plans. I want to travel and go in 2250 02:17:01,280 --> 02:17:04,200 sabbatical for a year and like, it's going to be very difficult 2251 02:17:04,200 --> 02:17:06,120 to keep a hold of this relationship, yadda, yadda, 2252 02:17:06,120 --> 02:17:08,320 yadda. And he's like, plan for me 2253 02:17:08,400 --> 02:17:10,040 because I'm playing for you. Yeah. 2254 02:17:10,160 --> 02:17:12,040 Yeah, yeah. Let's talk about the last three 2255 02:17:12,040 --> 02:17:14,760 episodes. My God, where do you want to 2256 02:17:14,760 --> 02:17:16,480 start, God? Where do you want to start? 2257 02:17:17,120 --> 02:17:22,799 Well, but the fact that they, obviously the doctor and the 2258 02:17:22,799 --> 02:17:28,760 friend find out and diagnose him and then, you know, the Sunbey 2259 02:17:28,760 --> 02:17:33,080 and the friend find out and they have to bring it up to her and 2260 02:17:33,080 --> 02:17:37,559 she's just in denial. Like for the first little bit 2261 02:17:37,760 --> 02:17:43,040 she's in denial, but her mind starts clicking things together 2262 02:17:43,680 --> 02:17:47,480 and they're like, he is becoming a danger to himself. 2263 02:17:47,480 --> 02:17:50,360 Has he shown you know? And she starts. 2264 02:17:50,360 --> 02:17:53,520 Regressive self harm behaviors. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2265 02:17:53,559 --> 02:17:56,760 He's she starts putting these together and being like, Oh my 2266 02:17:56,760 --> 02:18:00,920 God, this is happening. And then that's when they sort 2267 02:18:00,920 --> 02:18:05,840 of bring his mother in and they kind of tell her that they're 2268 02:18:05,840 --> 02:18:08,600 going to have to have him committed. 2269 02:18:08,600 --> 02:18:13,200 And it's like, that must have been tough on a female lead to 2270 02:18:13,240 --> 02:18:17,280 have to say that to the mother and to be like, this needs to 2271 02:18:17,280 --> 02:18:20,840 happen now. Maybe would have been better if 2272 02:18:20,959 --> 02:18:25,080 an unrelated Dr. put that across to the mother as opposed to the 2273 02:18:25,120 --> 02:18:26,559 girlfriend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2274 02:18:26,600 --> 02:18:30,360 This whole thing of like conflict of interest, friends of 2275 02:18:30,360 --> 02:18:35,320 his psychiatrist, friends of his are handling his care, 2276 02:18:35,320 --> 02:18:39,400 diagnosing him, treating him, and his girlfriend is working in 2277 02:18:39,400 --> 02:18:44,120 the same hospital in the same ward as him being treated. 2278 02:18:44,120 --> 02:18:47,520 Not supposed to see him. Not supposed to see him. 2279 02:18:47,520 --> 02:18:49,360 She's like breaking hospital rules. 2280 02:18:49,360 --> 02:18:53,840 She does get disciplined, but it's like a slap on the wrist. 2281 02:18:53,840 --> 02:18:59,280 Basically, yeah. It's like very unethical. 2282 02:18:59,879 --> 02:19:03,280 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I will say that is one thing 2283 02:19:03,280 --> 02:19:07,400 about this drama, but it is quite unethical in certain 2284 02:19:07,400 --> 02:19:09,959 places. But maybe, you know, 10 week, 2285 02:19:09,959 --> 02:19:13,879 this is where you have to give it a bit of grace and be like, 2286 02:19:13,959 --> 02:19:17,120 this was 10 years ago. It's AK drama. 2287 02:19:17,480 --> 02:19:21,240 It's AK drama, yeah. You got to give it a bit of 2288 02:19:21,240 --> 02:19:23,000 grace. Yeah, exactly. 2289 02:19:23,000 --> 02:19:28,879 So, So for me then episode 14 is like one of the episodes that I 2290 02:19:28,879 --> 02:19:32,480 have quite a lot of notes because a lot happens in episode 2291 02:19:32,480 --> 02:19:38,959 14 because like, it's, it's the scene basically where he gets 2292 02:19:38,959 --> 02:19:45,639 into a car accident and he's seeing oh God, dying. 2293 02:19:46,160 --> 02:19:51,880 So that's, and I'm like sobbing, absolutely sobbing because 2294 02:19:51,880 --> 02:19:55,760 nobody sees it. But to him, that is his reality. 2295 02:19:55,800 --> 02:20:00,200 Yeah, that is what's happening. And he's begging everybody 2296 02:20:00,200 --> 02:20:04,640 around him to save DO he's like, I'm trying to just save him. 2297 02:20:04,640 --> 02:20:06,800 Just sit. And he's begging our female 2298 02:20:06,840 --> 02:20:10,280 lead, and our female lead is just like holding on to him for 2299 02:20:10,400 --> 02:20:15,880 dear life at this point. And it's just like, Oh my God, 2300 02:20:16,120 --> 02:20:20,120 Oh my God. And I'm like sobbing, absolutely 2301 02:20:20,120 --> 02:20:24,400 sobbing throughout that. The acting in this scene, Oh my 2302 02:20:24,400 --> 02:20:27,160 God, phenomenal. Oh my God, phenomenal. 2303 02:20:27,960 --> 02:20:31,840 Not only from our main couple, but everybody around him and 2304 02:20:31,840 --> 02:20:35,880 from DO like this is his first role. 2305 02:20:35,880 --> 02:20:39,880 And I'm like. DoD throughout the show is just 2306 02:20:40,040 --> 02:20:43,640 devastating. He is, he is, He's so. 2307 02:20:43,640 --> 02:20:46,200 Good, he's. So good. 2308 02:20:46,400 --> 02:20:50,920 This is his first acting role. I would have never guessed. 2309 02:20:51,320 --> 02:20:53,520 No, I wouldn't either. I wouldn't either. 2310 02:20:53,520 --> 02:20:56,680 I would have thought he came from the Juilliard School of 2311 02:20:56,720 --> 02:20:59,840 yadda yadda yadda because he is that good. 2312 02:21:00,160 --> 02:21:01,760 It's crazy. It's crazy. 2313 02:21:02,160 --> 02:21:04,520 And then obviously. Unassailable. 2314 02:21:05,440 --> 02:21:09,120 It's, it's, it's wild. And then our male lead gets put 2315 02:21:09,120 --> 02:21:13,960 into care, he gets admitted. And like one of the lines that I 2316 02:21:13,960 --> 02:21:19,000 have is him, you just see the shift because obviously he's on 2317 02:21:19,000 --> 02:21:22,480 all of these medications and he's just like vacant. 2318 02:21:22,680 --> 02:21:24,960 He's not there. Like he's not there. 2319 02:21:25,240 --> 02:21:29,720 And the acting for this is insane. 2320 02:21:30,040 --> 02:21:35,440 Insane because up to this point, we've seen this almost larger 2321 02:21:35,440 --> 02:21:39,640 than life character. We've seen this very funny 2322 02:21:39,640 --> 02:21:42,920 character, this. And this is the point. 2323 02:21:43,080 --> 02:21:44,360 Yeah. This is the point. 2324 02:21:44,360 --> 02:21:50,520 You realize, Oh, my God, A lot of it was an act, a persona that 2325 02:21:50,520 --> 02:21:55,640 he put out to the world so that he would, you know, keep people 2326 02:21:55,640 --> 02:22:00,120 away. And I, and even then he says it, 2327 02:22:00,120 --> 02:22:04,600 he says it to a female lead. She isn't supposed to visit him, 2328 02:22:04,600 --> 02:22:09,240 but she does. And he says to her, I'm not like 2329 02:22:09,240 --> 02:22:12,920 myself in here of seeing Gong Wu is a disease. 2330 02:22:12,920 --> 02:22:17,480 I'll cure it myself. And it's just like, Oh, no. 2331 02:22:18,520 --> 02:22:22,960 Oh my God, Gong. Wu is like his safety blanket. 2332 02:22:23,080 --> 02:22:27,960 That is his safety blanket and he it's like taking that away 2333 02:22:27,960 --> 02:22:29,400 from somebody. It is. 2334 02:22:29,680 --> 02:22:31,760 It must be. Because he needs him. 2335 02:22:32,360 --> 02:22:33,920 He needs him. He needs him. 2336 02:22:33,920 --> 02:22:36,320 And it's just like you get to the point where he's just like, 2337 02:22:36,360 --> 02:22:38,280 I don't know what's real. I don't know. 2338 02:22:38,360 --> 02:22:43,320 Like I can't. I can't imagine. 2339 02:22:43,920 --> 02:22:45,880 I can't. That's something that I can't 2340 02:22:45,880 --> 02:22:50,440 imagine. You know myself, I've never been 2341 02:22:50,440 --> 02:22:52,720 through that. And I think it's one of those 2342 02:22:52,720 --> 02:22:55,760 things where unless you've been through a situation like that, 2343 02:22:55,920 --> 02:22:59,480 yes, we can try to empathize with the character, but we're 2344 02:22:59,480 --> 02:23:02,680 not going to know what it's truly like. 2345 02:23:03,280 --> 02:23:06,040 To the point where he is a broken man. 2346 02:23:06,240 --> 02:23:08,720 He is vacant, he's almost not there. 2347 02:23:08,720 --> 02:23:12,360 And he is even saying to this girlfriend that he wanted to 2348 02:23:12,360 --> 02:23:14,280 marry. I don't know if you're real. 2349 02:23:14,280 --> 02:23:16,760 I don't know what's real. I'm not me. 2350 02:23:16,760 --> 02:23:18,600 I don't know like. What's? 2351 02:23:18,600 --> 02:23:21,280 Happening anymore, I don't feel like myself. 2352 02:23:21,600 --> 02:23:27,440 And it takes courage on her part to step away and be like, but 2353 02:23:27,440 --> 02:23:32,720 this is what's best for you. Like I can't this me not doing 2354 02:23:32,720 --> 02:23:36,520 anything is me helping you. I can't get you out of here. 2355 02:23:36,880 --> 02:23:42,520 And it's just like, it is such beautifully well written. 2356 02:23:42,520 --> 02:23:44,880 It is angsty. It is this, you know, gut 2357 02:23:44,880 --> 02:23:48,880 wrenching, like you're saying. It's just so well acted because 2358 02:23:48,880 --> 02:23:51,440 you have these two broken people. 2359 02:23:52,000 --> 02:23:58,480 And it's she becomes almost his reason in a sense to kind of, 2360 02:23:58,480 --> 02:24:02,560 you know, hold on. And I don't know, I it's just so 2361 02:24:02,560 --> 02:24:05,240 well written. It's just so well written, so 2362 02:24:05,240 --> 02:24:08,800 well acted. Her family demands that she 2363 02:24:08,800 --> 02:24:09,760 break up with him. Oh. 2364 02:24:10,040 --> 02:24:15,640 My God yes I wrote down because I was like I can see on this 2365 02:24:15,680 --> 02:24:18,520 watch coming from. I completely understood the 2366 02:24:18,520 --> 02:24:21,280 family. I understood it like I didn't. 2367 02:24:22,000 --> 02:24:25,160 I didn't agree with them, but I understood them. 2368 02:24:25,520 --> 02:24:29,680 That's my point. Because like to especially to 2369 02:24:29,680 --> 02:24:34,400 her mother, her mother is a constant caregiver. 2370 02:24:34,400 --> 02:24:38,480 She doesn't want her daughter to be in that situation. 2371 02:24:38,760 --> 02:24:42,040 And although it's very different situations, like there is no 2372 02:24:42,040 --> 02:24:46,440 cure for her father, for him with the right medication and 2373 02:24:46,440 --> 02:24:50,280 the right observations. He can have a good quality of 2374 02:24:50,280 --> 02:24:51,600 life. Exactly. 2375 02:24:51,600 --> 02:24:55,760 So it's very different for her mother. 2376 02:24:56,160 --> 02:25:01,480 All she can see is this tag of disability of this tag of her 2377 02:25:01,480 --> 02:25:04,880 daughter, this stigma that her daughter is going to have to 2378 02:25:04,880 --> 02:25:08,400 care for her partner, that her daughter is going to have to 2379 02:25:08,400 --> 02:25:12,840 give more of herself then she's going to get back. 2380 02:25:12,840 --> 02:25:14,960 And that's probably all the mother can see. 2381 02:25:15,160 --> 02:25:19,800 So actually when I first watched it, I was so angry at the at it. 2382 02:25:19,800 --> 02:25:23,800 I was so angry at the mother, but a little bit like as I was 2383 02:25:23,800 --> 02:25:28,240 sitting on it and I was, you know, thinking through it, I was 2384 02:25:28,240 --> 02:25:31,720 like, actually, I don't agree with the actions, but I 2385 02:25:31,720 --> 02:25:34,480 understand the actions. I understand where they're 2386 02:25:34,480 --> 02:25:35,960 coming from. So. 2387 02:25:36,280 --> 02:25:38,920 So yeah. I don't think I, I don't agree 2388 02:25:38,920 --> 02:25:42,760 and I don't, I don't think it was right for her to slap her 2389 02:25:42,760 --> 02:25:45,360 and like get lay hands on her and stuff like that. 2390 02:25:45,360 --> 02:25:48,280 But I understand where it was coming from and what she said. 2391 02:25:48,760 --> 02:25:51,160 And at one point she even says, do you know what it's like to 2392 02:25:51,160 --> 02:25:53,560 live with a patient? And like that says it all. 2393 02:25:53,560 --> 02:25:58,320 Like that is the crux of the issue is that she would be not 2394 02:25:58,320 --> 02:26:00,120 living with a partner, living with a patient. 2395 02:26:01,400 --> 02:26:04,360 Something else that was added, which I did not like this 2396 02:26:04,360 --> 02:26:06,520 character. I thought this was the worst 2397 02:26:06,520 --> 02:26:08,960 written character of the show, especially when everybody else 2398 02:26:08,960 --> 02:26:11,160 is so well written. The sister. 2399 02:26:11,160 --> 02:26:11,960 Oh. I didn't like. 2400 02:26:12,520 --> 02:26:15,520 Her she added nothing, added nothing they could have. 2401 02:26:15,520 --> 02:26:17,160 Written out. Yeah, she was not necessary. 2402 02:26:17,240 --> 02:26:21,600 Yeah, she was not necessary. She says this juicy ass bit in 2403 02:26:21,600 --> 02:26:23,760 this episode. She says because she quits her 2404 02:26:23,760 --> 02:26:27,160 job at the cafe, which I guess she felt obligated to do because 2405 02:26:27,160 --> 02:26:31,320 that's homeboys building and technically his his cafe. 2406 02:26:31,920 --> 02:26:35,880 She comes in and like glares at the female lead and says that 2407 02:26:35,880 --> 02:26:39,720 she went to Community College because of her because the 2408 02:26:39,720 --> 02:26:42,760 sister, like the female lead, went to medical school. 2409 02:26:42,960 --> 02:26:45,120 Yeah, but she worked her ass off to get there. 2410 02:26:46,000 --> 02:26:51,160 But the family could only afford to send one of the daughters to 2411 02:26:51,440 --> 02:26:54,400 a very expensive or prestigious school. 2412 02:26:55,160 --> 02:26:57,400 So there's a lot of resentment and bitterness there. 2413 02:26:57,400 --> 02:27:02,880 And we never unpacked that at all in the show or even hinted 2414 02:27:02,880 --> 02:27:06,040 that that was there until this one moment. 2415 02:27:06,040 --> 02:27:09,040 And I was like, oh, that didn't like that. 2416 02:27:09,040 --> 02:27:13,120 But that was juicy. Earlier in this episode, the 2417 02:27:13,120 --> 02:27:16,480 brother, the imprisoned brother that I think by now is out, 2418 02:27:17,240 --> 02:27:22,400 tells the Sunday doc to unleash the truth of the whole situation 2419 02:27:22,400 --> 02:27:25,920 on his disassociated mom, on the mother. 2420 02:27:27,240 --> 02:27:32,280 But the doc someday says no, you should do it yourself. 2421 02:27:32,280 --> 02:27:34,280 I. Didn't understand that the. 2422 02:27:34,840 --> 02:27:36,840 This is what he said. Like basically he was saying 2423 02:27:37,040 --> 02:27:41,480 you're so abrasive and basically you could just torture her with 2424 02:27:41,480 --> 02:27:45,120 the truth until she remembers the quote is there's no medical 2425 02:27:45,120 --> 02:27:47,720 basis. But who knows, Like maybe it'll 2426 02:27:47,720 --> 02:27:50,560 work. And I was like, what? 2427 02:27:51,520 --> 02:27:55,680 What do you mean what? Do you mean torture the poor 2428 02:27:55,680 --> 02:27:59,000 woman with the truth until she like, has a breakthrough? 2429 02:27:59,200 --> 02:28:00,520 Are you? Joking. 2430 02:28:01,120 --> 02:28:03,920 Oh, you break her and she has a breakdown. 2431 02:28:04,120 --> 02:28:06,600 Yeah, like I was like, that's just wrong. 2432 02:28:06,600 --> 02:28:09,840 So I feel like they gave the Sombe doc like the most 2433 02:28:09,840 --> 02:28:15,160 questionable like medical practice things in the whole 2434 02:28:15,160 --> 02:28:18,640 show. I have the quote from when she 2435 02:28:18,640 --> 02:28:21,600 goes to see the female lead goes to see him. 2436 02:28:21,840 --> 02:28:24,560 This is against ethical standards, against his plan of 2437 02:28:24,560 --> 02:28:26,720 care, against hospital regulation. 2438 02:28:26,720 --> 02:28:30,720 She's not supposed to see him. And she goes in and they're 2439 02:28:30,720 --> 02:28:32,920 having this conversation. It's just like you said, he's 2440 02:28:32,920 --> 02:28:37,720 like really vacant. He's low energy and he looks 2441 02:28:37,720 --> 02:28:41,040 bad. And he says words won't come to 2442 02:28:41,040 --> 02:28:43,560 me that well. It's hard to walk to. 2443 02:28:43,960 --> 02:28:48,000 I want to see you but suddenly get sleepy even now seeing you 2444 02:28:48,000 --> 02:28:50,640 in a while. I want to make you laugh, but I 2445 02:28:50,640 --> 02:28:52,080 don't know how to make you laugh. 2446 02:28:52,760 --> 02:28:56,200 I can't think of any words. I want to hug you but I don't 2447 02:28:56,200 --> 02:28:58,480 think I can. I'm not sexy, huh? 2448 02:28:59,320 --> 02:29:02,600 And I started crying. Broken I was. 2449 02:29:02,840 --> 02:29:07,680 So I started crying, sobbing. I was, I lost it because he 2450 02:29:07,680 --> 02:29:09,480 said. Being here, I feel so small. 2451 02:29:09,840 --> 02:29:15,640 Jess, when I tell you I started crying in episode 13 and I did 2452 02:29:15,640 --> 02:29:21,920 not stop crying until episode 16, I was just like sobbing the 2453 02:29:21,920 --> 02:29:26,640 whole way through those last episodes, completely sobbing. 2454 02:29:26,640 --> 02:29:31,600 It was so much. It was so so much very high 2455 02:29:31,600 --> 02:29:36,320 intensity emotions the last few episodes and thankfully like we 2456 02:29:36,320 --> 02:29:39,400 do get a happy ending. We do we. 2457 02:29:39,920 --> 02:29:43,320 Do we do like there's like several time jumps, I think in 2458 02:29:43,320 --> 02:29:47,560 the last episode. She does go on sabbatical and 2459 02:29:47,560 --> 02:29:51,480 travel while he gets treatment. He's in and out of treatment. 2460 02:29:51,480 --> 02:29:55,360 He does make a comeback. Oh my God, that scene episode 2461 02:29:55,360 --> 02:30:00,720 15, I I have to talk about it. I have to talk about it in where 2462 02:30:01,080 --> 02:30:03,560 he no. The goodbye to Dio. 2463 02:30:04,520 --> 02:30:10,120 Yeah, but just before that he finally clicked that Dio's 2464 02:30:10,120 --> 02:30:13,120 character is not real. Right, because she tells him. 2465 02:30:13,120 --> 02:30:16,440 She tells him to find the contradiction in the illusion in 2466 02:30:16,440 --> 02:30:19,000 order to break it. She's like, there's always 2467 02:30:19,000 --> 02:30:21,320 something wrong. Yeah. 2468 02:30:21,560 --> 02:30:24,760 About it, about the hallucination. 2469 02:30:24,880 --> 02:30:27,800 And it's not the doctors that can find it, it's only you. 2470 02:30:28,160 --> 02:30:29,760 It's him, yeah. Yeah. 2471 02:30:30,200 --> 02:30:34,560 And it's the fact that he's been the same age and the same, yeah, 2472 02:30:34,680 --> 02:30:39,440 school kid for three years. Or it was so awful. 2473 02:30:39,440 --> 02:30:43,160 He's like, what year? He asked EO, what year are you 2474 02:30:43,240 --> 02:30:44,080 in? In high school? 2475 02:30:44,080 --> 02:30:47,000 He's like, oh, I'm in second year and he's like, how long 2476 02:30:47,000 --> 02:30:49,160 have we known each other? He's like three years. 2477 02:30:50,040 --> 02:30:51,880 Don't don't like. It's just. 2478 02:30:51,880 --> 02:30:56,200 Such a moment and everything starts coming back, yeah. 2479 02:30:56,200 --> 02:31:00,560 And then he starts noticing all the wrong things that he didn't 2480 02:31:00,560 --> 02:31:04,080 see or didn't realize before. And he gets admitted again. 2481 02:31:04,080 --> 02:31:09,640 And then he washes his feet and he brings out some trainers. 2482 02:31:10,480 --> 02:31:14,680 And I think I just have this. And I wrote it down because in 2483 02:31:14,680 --> 02:31:18,960 episode 16, he says, so Dio's character says, shouldn't I come 2484 02:31:18,960 --> 02:31:21,200 anymore? And he says, my girlfriend said 2485 02:31:21,200 --> 02:31:24,360 to say thank you, that if I hadn't met you, I probably 2486 02:31:24,360 --> 02:31:26,400 wouldn't have survived the guilt. 2487 02:31:26,600 --> 02:31:29,800 I was actually comforting me as I was comforting you. 2488 02:31:30,080 --> 02:31:31,520 Thank you for everything, Guanggu. 2489 02:31:31,800 --> 02:31:36,280 I realized after I met you, even though I act tough, the assaults 2490 02:31:36,280 --> 02:31:39,120 from my stepfather and brother were really scary. 2491 02:31:39,280 --> 02:31:42,480 I really hated how weak I was for not being able to do 2492 02:31:42,480 --> 02:31:45,360 anything while my mom was being beaten. 2493 02:31:45,560 --> 02:31:49,000 When I was running away barefoot, even though I wasn't 2494 02:31:49,000 --> 02:31:52,960 crying, I was really scared. It's all in the past now, right? 2495 02:31:53,000 --> 02:31:56,000 I think I've become quite a decent adult now. 2496 02:31:56,480 --> 02:31:59,040 And then he goes, I'm leaving and I'm like. 2497 02:31:59,480 --> 02:32:03,040 Zombing And he's like, even Dio says like even if you see me 2498 02:32:03,040 --> 02:32:05,840 again, like don't acknowledge me. 2499 02:32:06,040 --> 02:32:08,160 Yeah, just ignore me. Just ignore me. 2500 02:32:10,320 --> 02:32:11,520 I can't. I can't. 2501 02:32:11,520 --> 02:32:13,880 I can't. And I'm like, I'm tearing up. 2502 02:32:13,880 --> 02:32:17,760 Just it's always about it. I know it's always been a 2503 02:32:17,760 --> 02:32:22,120 facsimile of himself, right? A mirror image of his younger 2504 02:32:22,120 --> 02:32:23,920 self. And so it's like it's, it's a 2505 02:32:23,920 --> 02:32:29,520 part of him. It's just so layered and deep. 2506 02:32:30,400 --> 02:32:33,440 It's I, yeah. You know, healing your inner 2507 02:32:33,440 --> 02:32:35,960 child kind of thing. And yeah. 2508 02:32:37,080 --> 02:32:38,920 And. Not that all schizophrenic 2509 02:32:38,920 --> 02:32:44,120 patients have such a, like, inner child hallucination that 2510 02:32:44,120 --> 02:32:47,520 they need to say goodbye to and make peace with, but like, in 2511 02:32:47,520 --> 02:32:52,680 this specific K drama case, that's what was happening, Yeah. 2512 02:32:53,000 --> 02:32:57,640 And actually, I think watching it, so I'm just going to mention 2513 02:32:57,640 --> 02:33:00,560 this because I, I thought it was quite interesting. 2514 02:33:00,960 --> 02:33:04,880 Daily Dose of Sunshine has a schizophrenic story in it. 2515 02:33:05,200 --> 02:33:10,840 And they say it's really stigmatized in South Korea to 2516 02:33:10,840 --> 02:33:15,880 the point where they won't like rent to people houses and stuff 2517 02:33:15,880 --> 02:33:18,680 if they know that this is schizophrenic and whatnot. 2518 02:33:19,120 --> 02:33:23,280 And like having watched that in Daily Dose of Sunshine and then 2519 02:33:23,280 --> 02:33:27,000 seeing it, you know, in this drama 10 years ago, it was 2520 02:33:27,000 --> 02:33:31,080 really like impactful. And I think that's what kind of 2521 02:33:31,080 --> 02:33:34,800 made me click even more with the mother situation as well. 2522 02:33:35,280 --> 02:33:39,680 And I was like, the way that they did it here, it really 2523 02:33:39,680 --> 02:33:42,080 worked. It really really worked. 2524 02:33:42,320 --> 02:33:46,040 I think that we have to say one last thing about the twist is 2525 02:33:46,760 --> 02:33:49,960 the significance is also in the fact that Choin Song, this 2526 02:33:49,960 --> 02:33:56,400 household name, this Hot K drama actor has a mental illness like 2527 02:33:56,400 --> 02:34:02,160 he, he is suffering from a very serious schizophrenia, a very 2528 02:34:02,160 --> 02:34:06,440 stigmatized illness in Korea that a lot of people don't even 2529 02:34:06,560 --> 02:34:09,720 a 10 years ago, let alone today, don't even know the symptoms, 2530 02:34:09,720 --> 02:34:13,160 don't even know like what that is, how to treat it, yadda yadda 2531 02:34:13,160 --> 02:34:17,800 yadda. To see him of all people be the 2532 02:34:17,800 --> 02:34:22,640 vehicle for this story, I think is brilliant. 2533 02:34:22,640 --> 02:34:24,680 Like, that's part of the brilliance of the show. 2534 02:34:24,680 --> 02:34:27,440 Yeah. Is that he's the one that told 2535 02:34:27,440 --> 02:34:30,440 the story like through him is is how people are learning about 2536 02:34:30,440 --> 02:34:32,760 this? Yeah, and it's heart wrenching. 2537 02:34:33,040 --> 02:34:35,320 And it's heartbreaking. It's good shit. 2538 02:34:35,360 --> 02:34:37,200 It's good drama as well. Yeah, so. 2539 02:34:37,640 --> 02:34:39,640 Good. It's so good, it's so good. 2540 02:34:39,920 --> 02:34:41,440 We got through the end of the show. 2541 02:34:41,840 --> 02:34:43,240 I'll as we said, it's a happy ending. 2542 02:34:43,240 --> 02:34:44,600 I don't know if we want to go like going to do that. 2543 02:34:44,600 --> 02:34:47,360 She they get married, she gets pregnant, and they're still 2544 02:34:47,360 --> 02:34:49,480 living in the house with the housemates. 2545 02:34:49,480 --> 02:34:52,440 I will say, I will say I really enjoyed. 2546 02:34:52,440 --> 02:34:54,480 That's just like my last little thing. 2547 02:34:54,720 --> 02:34:58,160 I really, really enjoyed the fact that coming out on the 2548 02:34:58,160 --> 02:35:01,920 other side, she still went and did what she was supposed to do. 2549 02:35:01,920 --> 02:35:06,080 She didn't stop herself because she was meant to go abroad to do 2550 02:35:06,160 --> 02:35:09,200 some medical thing. You know she's going to work 2551 02:35:09,200 --> 02:35:11,240 abroad or something. She's going to answer that. 2552 02:35:11,680 --> 02:35:13,840 Yeah, yeah. And he's like, that's fine. 2553 02:35:13,840 --> 02:35:17,840 You go do you? We can still be, you know, we'll 2554 02:35:17,840 --> 02:35:19,800 work on each other. And it's like it's beautiful 2555 02:35:19,800 --> 02:35:22,160 that they went away. They worked on each other and 2556 02:35:22,160 --> 02:35:24,720 they came back even stronger than before. 2557 02:35:24,720 --> 02:35:28,720 And I'm like, I this is brilliant writing because like. 2558 02:35:28,720 --> 02:35:32,080 It's a time jump done correctly. Exactly. 2559 02:35:32,080 --> 02:35:35,560 That's exactly what I thought. It's not a time jump for time 2560 02:35:35,560 --> 02:35:36,520 jump's. Sake. 2561 02:35:36,800 --> 02:35:38,720 Exactly. It's not a breakup. 2562 02:35:38,720 --> 02:35:41,280 They don't break up for breakup's sake. 2563 02:35:41,280 --> 02:35:44,800 It's not, it's not even that. It's just that they go away. 2564 02:35:44,800 --> 02:35:47,920 They work on each other, you know, they work on themselves. 2565 02:35:47,920 --> 02:35:49,520 They have the goals that they like. 2566 02:35:49,520 --> 02:35:52,800 He needs to get better and like she can't even be that. 2567 02:35:52,800 --> 02:35:56,920 She's she's not allowed to be there like ethically and like 2568 02:35:57,000 --> 02:36:00,520 for a plethora of reasons, she really can't help him in this 2569 02:36:00,520 --> 02:36:04,520 journey. And she is his goal and her 2570 02:36:04,520 --> 02:36:06,360 goals were already there from the get go. 2571 02:36:06,360 --> 02:36:09,480 Like she wanted to travel, she wanted to be free, she wanted to 2572 02:36:09,480 --> 02:36:12,160 go on sabbatical and she always wanted that. 2573 02:36:12,160 --> 02:36:15,000 So like they do that. Yeah, this is her showing, for 2574 02:36:15,000 --> 02:36:19,400 example, her mother that she can still have her life and she can 2575 02:36:19,400 --> 02:36:23,680 still be herself and she can still be in the relationship as 2576 02:36:23,680 --> 02:36:26,760 well. It's like it's it's just so well 2577 02:36:26,760 --> 02:36:29,880 done. This is a strong female lead. 2578 02:36:30,040 --> 02:36:33,760 Well written. Like this is what I mean when I 2579 02:36:33,760 --> 02:36:39,920 say I like strong female leads. It's the fact that the woman can 2580 02:36:39,920 --> 02:36:41,920 have it all. She can have the relationship 2581 02:36:41,920 --> 02:36:46,680 and she can have the career and she can do what men do. 2582 02:36:46,680 --> 02:36:50,480 It's just like, I don't even know what else to say. 2583 02:36:50,480 --> 02:36:52,400 I just, I loved it. I really did. 2584 02:36:52,880 --> 02:36:56,760 This warms my heart if you have gotten this far in the episode 2585 02:36:56,760 --> 02:36:57,360 Which. Is a really? 2586 02:36:57,520 --> 02:37:01,560 Long one, thank you so much for listening this far and if you 2587 02:37:01,920 --> 02:37:05,480 spoiled the whole show for yourself, I promise you you will 2588 02:37:05,480 --> 02:37:09,200 not be disappointed. Watch the show for yourself and 2589 02:37:09,240 --> 02:37:11,480 just experience it. There's a lot that we didn't 2590 02:37:11,480 --> 02:37:14,160 talk about, a lot that we left on the table, so many scenes 2591 02:37:14,160 --> 02:37:17,160 that we didn't dissect and this just not not enough time in in 2592 02:37:17,160 --> 02:37:20,760 the day. Thank you so much for for doing 2593 02:37:20,760 --> 02:37:25,040 this Liliana, for watching the all the 16 episodes and for deep 2594 02:37:25,040 --> 02:37:29,200 diving on It's OK That's love. Where can people find you online 2595 02:37:29,200 --> 02:37:31,600 in case they haven't listened to all the other episodes with you 2596 02:37:31,600 --> 02:37:33,480 on it? Or any drama trio episodes? 2597 02:37:35,120 --> 02:37:40,120 So you can catch the tea and soju see drama podcast on any, 2598 02:37:40,120 --> 02:37:44,080 you know, if you're listening sites, Spotify, Apple podcasts, 2599 02:37:44,080 --> 02:37:47,440 Amazon Music, all of those. And we don't just do, although 2600 02:37:47,440 --> 02:37:51,400 we do focus mainly on Chinese dramas, we do dive into other 2601 02:37:51,400 --> 02:37:55,520 Asian dramas too. And then on the socials, it's 2602 02:37:55,520 --> 02:37:57,960 just tea and soju pod on all of them. 2603 02:37:58,040 --> 02:38:04,080 So that's Instagram, TikTok X Twitter, Yeah, on all of those 2604 02:38:04,080 --> 02:38:05,480 as well. Awesome. 2605 02:38:05,480 --> 02:38:07,400 Thank you again, Liliana. We'll talk soon. 2606 02:38:07,480 --> 02:38:08,520 So. Much. 2607 02:38:08,720 --> 02:38:10,760 Yay. All right, that's been our show. 2608 02:38:10,760 --> 02:38:12,960 We'll get out of here. I'm just, and this has been the 2609 02:38:12,960 --> 02:38:14,760 Tabaki Rambles podcast.