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I'm Jessica. 
And this is Deb icky Rambles. 

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We're a couple of friends review
Korean dramas and today I have a

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special friend with me. 
I have Carol from the K 

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Dramatics Club. 
Hey, Carol, Thank you so much 

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for having me. 
How's everyone doing for her? 

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Mandarin listeners that you how 
was she Carol? 

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Where sentencer language ubu to 
tie Bangla. 

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So super excited to be here. 
Carol, you blew my mind with a 

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mandarin, I had no idea of it. 
You knew to see how to speak 

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Mandarin. 
But that goes hand-in-hand with 

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what we're going to talk about 
today because we're not 

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reviewing a Korean drama today. 
We're reviewing a Chinese drama,

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a see drama today. 
The First one for the podcast 

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feed, I think a lot of you that 
follow their back on the 

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socials, know that I watch TV 
dramas whenever I feel like it 

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is kind of augmenting my kdrama 
watching and I've been doing it 

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for many years and I do it for 
the blog. 

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I do the reviews for see, dramas
on the blog and I always do a 

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lot of see, dramas, actually for
the patreon feed that I review. 

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And this is very, very special 
because Cuz I have never, we've 

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never done it for the regular. 
Dip out, feed and Carol was so 

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gracious enough to actually make
this episode happen. 

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I meant in the patreon, I do a 
final say episode. 

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Usually, when I finish a kdrama 
or see drama that I'm watching 

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outside, the regular debacle 
ramble season and I usually do 

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this by myself, but I always do 
it for the patreon feed and when

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I posted on my Instagram story 
about loving love and love 

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between Ferry and devil loves. 
In the show, I influenced a 

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bunch of people to watch the 
show including Carol and she 

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binged it, my DMs were buzzing. 
The tick-tocks were going viral 

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and Carol. 
So graciously and sweetly asked 

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if I was doing a podcast episode
on it and that she'd love to 

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join. 
So I figured we could just take 

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the final say and do it on the 
regular feed and so you all have

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Carol to thank for this. 
Really? 

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Thank you Carol. 
Thank you. 

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I was hooked in with your Tick, 
Tock videos. 

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The first one I was out, that's 
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I gotta watch. 
That's a show. 

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I gotta get on. 
So, thank you so much for having

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me. 
You're welcome. 

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I had a great time making note 
of those tick-tocks and then one

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of them went viral in kind of a 
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All of the sexist misogynistic 
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and they started commenting. 
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been up for like about a week 
and it kind of died down and now

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it's like over. 
I think it's over 3 million 

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views and the like every few 
days it keeps like the trolls 

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find it again. 
And I have to clean up the 

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comments at the Block like 
hundreds of people. 

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It is ridiculous out here. 
So Carol, I'm so glad that The 

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Tick-Tock actually found its 
target audience and that it 

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influenced you to watch the 
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It is. 
I think we're going to review 

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basically the C drom of the 
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Yeah, so many people have talked
about the show love between 

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Ferry and devil and how amazing 
it is and we're going to do the 

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same. 
I think it's no secret that like

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we're here because we had a 
great time watching this show 

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but before we get into it I'm 
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housekeeping. 
So if this is your first time 

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listening oh my God. 
Thank you so much for popping in

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on an episode. 
That is completely outside of 

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any season forward that Bach. 
You got a very special episodes 

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of Mama, please. 
Please go ahead and subscribe 

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doing, get ahold of my DMs, the 
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Everything. 
You got to follow us on 

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Tick-Tock, Twitter, Instagram, 
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Let this be a PSA. 
I have deleted ATC. 

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From all of the social handles. 
So it's just at the bach pot and

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lastly, if you're a fan, please 
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It is such a great way for you 
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Sure your support and get extra 
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the final say is and all the see
dramas and kdramas and I'm 

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watching outside of the regular 
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All right, we're going to get 

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into it. 
I will put this PSA, the second 

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PSA at the front end. 
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general behind the scenes, my 
drama, listen abscess and all of

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the people who made this show 
because we're not going to do an

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on spoiler section. 
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non-spoiler section after I get 
through the cast and everybody 

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we're going to launch headlong 
into the spoiler section. 

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So beware, if you Watch the 
show, you're going to get 

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spoiled. 
So I am going to read them, I'd 

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Ramallah synopsis, and it's kind
of long so bear with me. 

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But I feel like it's kind of 
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everyone to be on the same page.
If you haven't watched this in a

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while or what have you? 
So here we go. 

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According to Legend, in order to
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functioning song of the Moon 
tribe, became an emotionless 

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monster. 
He killed his father sees the 

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position of moon Supreme and led
an army of 100,000 Moon tribe 

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soldiers. 
On a Path of Devastation, SRI on

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Theon, The Immortal fairy realm,
Kang Yang, see the moon tribe 

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and you among see the mortar 
World. 

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We're in grave danger to save 
the world and stop. 

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Don't find Shang Tsung and his 
army. 

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The first God of War of XI XI 
and done. 

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Destroyed her primordial Spirit,
don't punching songs, Army and 

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primordial Spirit were sealed 
and his body was locked away and

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how Tiant our Under The Immortal
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This is like a tongue twister. 
I swear, however, it is, 

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however, if is primordial It was
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Functioning sang were to break 
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The world would be in danger. 
Once more Legend, says, that 

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only the goddess of shank and 
prevent this catastrophe, but 

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she vanished Without a Trace Q. 
Avatar theme 30,000 years after 

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the first God of War. 
Sacrifice there was a 

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disturbance in the how Town 
Matrix while attempting to help.

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The new God of War, reinforce 
The Matrix, or get a week. 

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And low-ranking flower flower 
fairy accidentally finds herself

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inside how Tiant our and 
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Faced with the moon Supreme 
himself, their encounter sets 

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off a chain of events that 
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the world. 
Once again, all right, that was 

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really wrong but that's 
basically episode one and I will

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say this love between Ferry and 
double aired. 

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This year, August 20, 22, it is 
36 episodes long. 

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It's directed by Zhang and I 
hope that I don't butcher their 

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names too much. 
But he's young and he's directed

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falling into you from 2022 and 
young blood from. 19 among other

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things. 
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and he's written things like the
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2022, which is a historical, 
see, drama, and the crack of 

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dawn also from this year. 
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He's done a bunch of other stuff
but that's just his stuff from 

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2022. 
He's done, he's written three 

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shows just in this year which is
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And then his co-writer this he 
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Busy. 
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So his co-writer on love between
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and this is her first writing 
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So I'm really excited to see 
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What else fills out her 
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I'm just going to say the first,
you know, the leaders of this 

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troop here and that's Esther you
stars as Orchid. 

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She made her acting debut in 
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Border Town, prodigal and she's 
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including my amazing boyfriend 
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a sequel. 
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that and she's also been in find
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main role. 
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character that well, which 
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So I remember watching that show
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like the cast. 
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excited about this next guy 
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Supreme, don't punching sign. 
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Carol, everybody knows him from 
his first leading role as Dom 

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and she in the 2018 remake be 
near a garden and that basically

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made him a star. 
That is what happened Carol's 

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like head against the wall like 
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I've just been going down a 
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Oh, God, watch the show and it's
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I know everything I need. 
I know girl. 

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So Dylan I've been in love with 
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then I never watched any of his 
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they're there I am. 
The love is back. 

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I like I never left and I think 
we're gonna say another PSA 

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here, before we get started, you
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seconds. 
If you have not watched the show

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and you want to stay unspoiled, 
you should watch it and then 

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come back here for this review, 
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Carol girl, what happened? 
Tell me what happened, how did 

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you love the show? 
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the roller coaster. 
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when I saw your Ted Talk where 
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I got my God, I gotta watch that
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At whole eclipse of the moon and
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And then he shows up and people 
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it? 
This is it, let's see. 

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So I started and in the first 
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So enamored with the God of War 
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Oh sorry I said the wrong name 
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Yeah she was she was enamored 
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this. 
I'm gonna sacrifice myself. 

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Helps to save him and I'm like, 
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It's not that deep. 
This guy hasn't even shown you 

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that he's interested. 
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I guess prison that they have 
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Yeah, and she falls into DC fq. 
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Is that what we're calling it? 
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D, fq v, fq c. 
The fqc. 

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Yeah. 
As she falls into him and they 

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have their first kiss and I was 
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table and everything. 
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this is so design one episode 
getting we're getting good kiss 

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and therefore sold one and I'll 
starkel drama. 

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Yeah Ima take that I was sold. 
I'll take it was just it was 

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just fantastic and the whole 
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Nothing for it, it had Freaky, 
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there, too, because I swapped 
that it was a body swap for. 

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For I don't, they did like two 
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back today. 
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right there. 
Just from them body-swapping. 

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Yeah, so you were hooked hooked 
immediately. 

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Yeah, same. 
So what happened with me was 

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that I had seen Some edits 
earlier in the year during the 

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summer. 
When this was airing and I was 

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like, oh my God, this is like, 
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Like I really want to watch the 
show, but I was in the middle of

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doing a lot of kdrama watching 
for the podcast for this, for 

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the season 3. 
And I had no time outside of 

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that to really dedicate to 
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And of course you, dramas are 
kind of what's the word, they 

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require a lot of time. 
Is it's not just 16 or 20 

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episodes. 
It's always like 50 60 episodes 

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or something. 
It's a big commitment. 

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So I was like, I can't do this 
right now, so I didn't then the 

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season ends but what season 3 of
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And I have some time and I 
thought oh my God I'm going to 

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press play on love between very 
and double finally girl, the 

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first freaking couple of 
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I was like, this is it like I'm 
hooked? 

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I Can't wait to finish the show 
and the my only thing was oh my 

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God, it's only 36 episodes. 
I think that's very accessible 

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of a see drama and they kept 
that plot tight and they had the

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writing doing so much heavy 
lifting. 

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And these actors were acting. 
Like, it was like, so much fun 

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to see all of these pieces that 
makes you dramas so great. 

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Right. 
Which is usually a combination 

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of like great cinematography and
A set pieces and stunning 

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costuming, beautiful head like 
jewelry, headpieces Flawless, 

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makeup, and wigs, and all of 
these things. 

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Plus the story, The acting the 
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together. 
It makes this show a stunner 

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like the best. 
See, drama that I've watched in 

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a really, really long time. 
I don't know if it was the same 

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for you, but I was like, it's 
like this is the best thing ever

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I couldn't. 
I was binging it and funny thing

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is I posted all those tick-tocks
and then I kind of sat back and 

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was like, I can't girl I gotta 
calm down. 

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I can't get through this too 
fast because I want this to last

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and I thought you texted. 
You messaged me and were like, 

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I'm almost done. 
Are you said I finished the 

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drama? 
You have fish. 

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What was that? 
Like a day, two days. 

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Yes, two days. 
And it has sir. 

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I was shocked. 
It was like you were shot. 

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Harrell were like, oh, I have 
more episodes. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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I have. 
I have my job. 

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Yeah. 
I don't just like, you were, 

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like, I made the time. 
Yeah. 

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You're like, like, I don't have 
a life. 

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Like, I don't have a job. 
And I was like, I do. 

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But yeah. 
That was my excuse. 

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Was that I was like, I'm so busy
and then you were like, I'm busy

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too, but I like just blasted 
through it. 

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And yeah, I oh my God. 
I didn't want it to end. 

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I did not want it to end. 
It was something to look forward

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to. 
Every time I came home and I'm 

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so glad I don't have to wait for
No episode. 

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Some people were like, yeah, I 
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airing and it was torture 
because the episodes would end 

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and then I have to wait the next
week. 

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Yeah, I was like, hmm, can't do 
that with a dram of this good. 

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Can't do that. 
No, thank you. 

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I can only sit and watch my 
cage, right? 

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Emma's currently, because now 
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Hmm. 
I got a bench, the whole, yes. 

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So talking about, see dramas. 
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with? 
See dramas, just so that, you 

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know, our listeners can kind of 
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from because I think I've won 
watching. 

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See dramas a lot for the number 
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I haven't been watching it as 
long as you have. 

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I don't think Okay. 
Okay, my first CD drama was a 

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1986 drama mind you. 
I was probably watching it and 

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like 1991, so I was a couple of 
years later. 

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Okay. 
Got ya got it was a drama called

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Journey to the West and it was 
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Ghana where I grew up and then I
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2004 when I got intimate at 
home, I had Crunchyroll and yes 

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just when Crunchyroll was free I
was gel hammering. 

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The drama is so yeah, nice. 
So good. 

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Yeah, I think I've been watching
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there 2016 or 2017 because I 
have been doing kdramas for a 

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while and I think I had watched 
like a. 

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Maybe I'd watched a Thai drama. 
And I had watched a, oh my God, 

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what's the language? 
Oh my God, a Turkish drama. 

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Okay, which was really 
interesting and I love the 

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language. 
I was a beautiful language but I

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don't think I ever finish 60 so 
long who's like a lot of 

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episodes. 
So anyway, so I had watched 

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those and then I got into see 
dramas and I never looked back 

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because I instantly found like 
my favorite genres. 

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I guess of see drama. 
I don't think I'd usually go for

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the modern ones. 
They're not. 

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Like 100 for me but I love the 
Lucia and the ciancia see 

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dramas, the costume period 
pieces and stuff. 

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I love those so much and funny 
story about I think one of my 

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first see dramas was I don't 
remember the name of it but it 

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was something about empresses of
the palace. 

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I think was the name of it. 
Okay. 

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Okay. 
So it was a lot of drama in the 

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Harem of the palace and it's 
like young girl gets picked up 

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and like she gets inserted into 
the Harem, and she becomes the 

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King's favorite, all the stuff 
like very typical, you know, 

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Royal fodder for a see drama, 
and I watch it on Netflix. 

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And I kept thinking my God, this
is such bad storytelling, 

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because they keep skipping over 
who killed her child like a 

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missing, entire scenes, entire 
scenes, entirely gone. 

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And I was like, wait, maybe it's
like maybe they didn't intend to

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It and I was like trying to 
reason with it and say, like, 

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maybe they don't know, maybe 
there's subtext that I'm missing

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from it, but it was like very 
herky-jerky storytelling and I 

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get to the end of it and I was 
like, this was good, but I feel 

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like it would the editing was 
terrible. 

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And I had all these questions 
because they were talking about 

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things and referring to things 
that had never seen before. 

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Never heard about in the show 
before. 

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So I looked it up, online, 
people were fucking livid, 

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Because Netflix had chopped up 
the drama and edited it for. 

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I guess they're audience that 
they assumed wouldn't want to 

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see the entire see drama which 
was a High episode count. 

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So they edited it down for 
Netflix. 

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And that's why entire scenes 
plot lines were like missing or 

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told terribly. 
And I was like, oh my God, this 

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is a crime. 
Like, I still want to prosecute 

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for what they did. 
Did to that drama because it's 

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so rude. 
Like how, why would you think to

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do that? 
It was anyway, so miracle that I

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kept watching, see dramas after 
that. 

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But yeah, I would like to know 
what are your favorite genres of

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see drama. 
And if you had to carve out a 

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mark Mount Rushmore of see 
dramas. 

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What shows would be up there. 
Okay, genres wrong. 

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RAB cough. 
Cough Ganda teenage school. 

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Oh yeah. 
Okay. 

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Yeah. 
And mushiya? 

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Yes. 
Yeah. 

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Those those are so good. 
Okay. 

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I kind of feel like we have 
basically the same taste and see

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dramas because I always it 
kdramas. 

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I will go all over the place for
genres. 

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I could do Thriller. 
I could do this. 

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I could do that. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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But now for see, dramas, I have 
Kept the same formula since I 

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started watching and it's always
like romance rom-com historical,

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's period pieces. 
If you're talking about a 

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Mortals I'm like, yeah. 
Sign me up like if this is very 

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similar to to my taste. 
So cool. 

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So we walked into this, 
basically guaranteed. 

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No, not guaranteed to like it, 
but, you know, it's made for us,

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exactly, highly possible that we
will enjoy it and we did Like 

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compared to other Russia. 
As we've said what we've seen 

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one. 
We didn't get as many kisses. 

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Oh yeah, I know I said kiss is a
lot but like it's important to 

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me. 
Okay, man. 

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Same same, so we don't get that 
many and the stories are much 

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longer. 
So we're looking at like that 70

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episodes etcetera and the 
writing is not as tight. 

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So yeah, I loved this so much. 
Much. 

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And what about your Mount 
Rushmore of? 

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See dramas, what are your 
favorites? 

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Dan, you know, I okay. 
This is a very old one, okay? 

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It was with Rainie Yang and 
Mikey and he was playing devil 

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beside me. 
So now. 

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Okay and then Ariel Lin did 
Tokyo Juliet and I will not love

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you or I'll never love you with 
Bolin Chen. 

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Okay? 
Fantastic job. 

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It was like a friends friends to
lovers. 

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Come lord, sign me up. 
Oh, my Let me write it down. 

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Oh, okay. 
Okay, please. 

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Yes, I'll send you the link. 
It's with Bolin Chen and Ariel 

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Ariel Lin. 
Mmm. 

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And they are love. 
Their story is, I'll Never Love 

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You. 
Okay, okay, yeah, no, sorry, any

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time with you. 
So in time with you, okay, and 

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time with you and then I'll say 
bars, so Mars. 

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Oh my gosh, oh my gosh, marzu 
Mars was such a traumatic girl 

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drama girl, but at the same 
time, I keep going back to its 

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addictive. 
So good. 

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Yeah, with Barbie shoes. 
You. 

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And that guy from Meteor Garden.
Yes. 

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I forgot his name to oh my God. 
Yeah, so Mars, if you haven't 

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watched Mars, it's based on a. 
What is it called? 

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It's not a manhwa, it's a book. 
What is it called? 

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Oh my God. 
What's the equivalent of a 

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manhwa anime? 
No. 

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Um, anyway, it's based on a 
graphic novel thing. that I 

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forget the name of and they 
turned it into a show and it is 

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so good, so good him and him on 
the motorcycle and like the hair

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that he had, no girl, girl. 
Oh my gosh. 

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And that painting, or that 
picture with fire around him, 

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quit their, quit it. 
So anyway, this will turn into a

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Mars drama real fast. 
So we're gonna so those are your

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Mount some more Mount Rushmore, 
see, dramas great. 

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So mine have to do exclusively 
With like Immortals and Sansa 

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and stuff. 
So I'll choose eternal love 

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which is I think it's also known
by like 10 miles of peach 

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blossoms or something like that.
Like the peach blossom show and 

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Ashes of love, for sure. 
And yes, oh my gosh, actions of 

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love and I will go ahead and put
love between Ferry and devil on 

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my Mount Rushmore because I 
loved it, I loved it, I think 

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it's fantastic. 
Okay, so thank you so much for 

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playing along and giving us your
Mount Rushmore and your genres 

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and your experience watching. 
See drama sorry. 

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What do you want to talk about 
first for the show? 

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Although because people know we 
love it. 

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Why do we love it? 
So I think We have to discuss 

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Dylan because Dylan is a huge 
part of this. 

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Um I am like madly in love with 
Dylan. 

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Dylan Wing is like, so appealing
to me. 

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I this is like oh my God I don't
can't believe I'm saying this 

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but like he has like my my ideal
body type like ever since. 

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I was like a preteen the tall 
lanky slightly more like barely 

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muscular kind. 
Of dudes with like a pretty 

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face. 
That that is my tight ever since

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I was a child. 
Basically, my crush is have sort

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of looked like Dylan, Dylan 
Wang, not that they were 

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beautiful Asian men all the 
time. 

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But like, you know, they were 
that kind of style and oh my 

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God, every time I see Dylan, I'm
like reminded of this like deep 

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sets like attraction. 
I acted this kind of dude and he

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has played basically One of the 
most famous roles you could 

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possibly have in the Drama 
World. 

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He's played The Boys Over 
Flowers, Meteor Garden. 

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Yeah, guy and so I like I said 
before I've been madly in love 

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with him since then, then I 
popped off the bandwagon. 

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Now I'm back on it and I'm 
obsessed. 

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I think that his acting was 
pretty good and Meteor Garden. 

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Now, looking back at, Meteor 
Garden. 

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It's probably not that great. 
This drama love between fair and

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devil. 
Impress me, completely, with his

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acting his ability and just how 
far he's come. 

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It seems like he's improved so 
much. 

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Do you agree with that? 
I agree. 

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The first time I saw Dylan was 
in the rational life. 

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Oh, okay. 
That drama is now on Netflix. 

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Yes, it is. 
And confession. 

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Did not see him and Meteor 
Garden. 

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Like I just heard cuz I was 
partial to the first time you 

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need. 
Yes, your garden? 

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Yes, okay. 
And I was like, no, I'm not 

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going to do that. 
Then I watched voiceover. 

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No, I watch the Japanese one. 
Had a you read angle. 

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Yes. 
Regarding okay. 

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And then I watched Boys Over 
Flowers and at that point, I was

447
00:27:37,900 --> 00:27:41,700
like, you know why Carol no 
sense in delaying it this time 

448
00:27:41,900 --> 00:27:44,900
Toxic life. 
It's over like, let's not do it 

449
00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:49,500
and I didn't see that. 
So how you held out after that 

450
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,500
exactly. 
Matter going into his his 

451
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,900
portfolio. 
Like okay, let's let's go back. 

452
00:27:57,900 --> 00:28:01,900
I think this is worth it. 
So I've heard you talk about it.

453
00:28:01,900 --> 00:28:04,200
It's on my list now. 
Oh my God. 

454
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,800
I do still haven't seen media 
Garden. 

455
00:28:06,500 --> 00:28:08,700
Okay. 
So we might have to do a Meteor 

456
00:28:08,700 --> 00:28:11,700
Garden episode. 
Then when Carol finishes me, 

457
00:28:11,900 --> 00:28:15,900
Your garden from 2018. 
I thought it was excellent. 

458
00:28:15,900 --> 00:28:20,400
I think I have a review. 
I think on the blog for it which

459
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,900
has like my raw thoughts like 
right after I finished it, I 

460
00:28:23,900 --> 00:28:27,900
think they just updated it so 
well for the times that were in 

461
00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:33,200
and they kind of left off at 
least a good chunk of what makes

462
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:39,900
that character so toxic and kind
of cringey to return to in 2022 

463
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,500
and He at pineapple head is such
a great character because you 

464
00:28:45,500 --> 00:28:50,000
find him, so adorable and 
vulnerable and places and then 

465
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,800
like really hard and cool in so 
many other places. 

466
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:58,400
So he's got that cool dichotomy 
that he keeps up in this love 

467
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,800
between Ferry and devil as well,
where you like, he's very 

468
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,700
vulnerable and places and other 
places. 

469
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:11,600
You can't get a read on him. 
He's very careful and cold. 

470
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,800
So That's, I don't know. 
I think he does that really 

471
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:18,100
well. 
Yes, so, okay, when this show 

472
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:25,700
started I was over the moon with
how If you can, we swear on the 

473
00:29:25,708 --> 00:29:28,500
shit. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, fuck. 

474
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,900
I'm gonna do my thing. 
This is the girl I want. 

475
00:29:32,900 --> 00:29:38,900
This is mine. 
Very toxic, but he played it so 

476
00:29:38,900 --> 00:29:43,900
well. 
My, yes, you sexy you sexy. 

477
00:29:43,900 --> 00:29:45,600
I'm buying into it. 
Yep. 

478
00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:50,400
And then you see him transform 
into this vulnerable. 

479
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:55,900
Person, not serving, just 
himself or his Is Moon tribe. 

480
00:29:56,100 --> 00:30:02,900
He is, he wants to be of service
to Orchid and I'm just like, oh,

481
00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:07,100
girl, girl, it's The Taming of 
the Beast. 

482
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,800
It's The Taming of the Beast 
rope, which of course in real 

483
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:16,500
life doesn't fly. 
You can just like, tame a toxic 

484
00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:24,000
rude Tyrant, dude with like 
kindness but and this show it's 

485
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,100
up. 
It's a fucking high fantasy. 

486
00:30:27,700 --> 00:30:29,700
See drama. 
It's fake. 

487
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,700
Give it to me, anytime of the 
day. 

488
00:30:31,700 --> 00:30:36,200
Like, I love that Trope, and I 
do love how you're alluding to 

489
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,600
his character Arc, which amazing
amazing character Arc that he 

490
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,600
has. 
He like, I said, starts off 

491
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:47,900
really cold and emotionless, 
really, and towards the end, 

492
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,100
he's the complete opposite. 
He's very emotional. 

493
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:57,000
And in touch, with his feelings.
What he He wants he has so much 

494
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:02,800
affection and just love for 
orchid that he completely shirks

495
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,200
his responsibilities. 
As the moon Supreme and 

496
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,200
full-time takes care of her 
tries to get closer to her. 

497
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,600
And of course, there's like 
reasons for it in the plot for 

498
00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:20,300
him to want to be closer to her,
or she doesn't remember who he 

499
00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:22,600
is. 
But anyway, that's beside the 

500
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,500
point. 
I love how They tame him and I 

501
00:31:25,508 --> 00:31:33,500
love how he is able to reconcile
with his family and it's all 

502
00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:37,300
because of her because she's in 
his life, he changes. 

503
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,700
Oh my God, it's so beautiful to 
see his ark and to see we can 

504
00:31:43,700 --> 00:31:45,800
talk a little bit more about it.
I mean there's no reason to like

505
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:52,200
not but she cared for him a lot 
for the first, maybe half of the

506
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,100
show or the mocha the show like 
three. 

507
00:31:54,300 --> 00:31:57,900
Three quarters of the show, 
she's taking care of him, and 

508
00:31:58,100 --> 00:32:01,700
she helps him reconcile with his
brother and his dad died. 

509
00:32:01,700 --> 00:32:05,300
She recognized resurrects, his 
emotions, his emotions tree. 

510
00:32:05,300 --> 00:32:07,300
And, like his, you know, all 
this crap. 

511
00:32:07,700 --> 00:32:11,900
She made him come alive, and she
nurtured him back to life. 

512
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,700
And I really like an episode 18.
When he's confronting his dad in

513
00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:22,000
the afterlife and the dad is 
like, well, I had to do all 

514
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,200
these things so that you could 
become this. 

515
00:32:24,300 --> 00:32:26,800
Supreme and learn how to harness
Hellfire. 

516
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:33,300
You had to get tortured 
essentially to learn that the 

517
00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:36,900
Motions were no good and like 
you basically killed off 

518
00:32:36,900 --> 00:32:43,600
something inside of yourself. 
And yes it was how do I put this

519
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:50,300
really sad and a really intense 
part of the show to see him 

520
00:32:50,300 --> 00:32:53,700
getting the answers that he 
wanted the D fq C was like why 

521
00:32:53,700 --> 00:32:57,100
did you do This to me. 
Did you even love me and asking 

522
00:32:57,100 --> 00:33:00,600
these hard hard questions. 
And the dad was like, it killed 

523
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:07,300
me inside to do this to you. 
And I could no longer live with 

524
00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:09,300
myself. 
So like the other Surefire way 

525
00:33:09,300 --> 00:33:12,000
to make sure that you cut off 
your emotions and learned how to

526
00:33:12,008 --> 00:33:14,000
use Hellfire was. 
If you killed somebody that you 

527
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,700
loved. 
So I could know. 

528
00:33:16,700 --> 00:33:19,200
Let it was like a suicide 
basically. 

529
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,700
This dad was like, it wasn't you
murdering me? 

530
00:33:21,700 --> 00:33:26,500
It was really suicide. 
Which is really sad, and the dad

531
00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:30,600
was like, well, I see that your 
emotions tree is alive again. 

532
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:35,200
It's been resurrected. 
Why don't you just scatter my 

533
00:33:35,700 --> 00:33:38,500
primordial Spirit. 
Now here and now and kill me 

534
00:33:38,500 --> 00:33:43,700
again, so that you can return to
being this lofty, Moon Supreme 

535
00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:47,200
with these Almighty Hellfire 
Powers because otherwise you're 

536
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,500
kind of a Sitting Duck. 
And you can't fulfill this 

537
00:33:50,500 --> 00:33:55,200
Destiny of like Reviving The 
Moon tribe in all this crap and 

538
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,900
D. 
Fq C does something really 

539
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,400
really Brave here because he 
he's chooses himself and he 

540
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,900
says, I'm going to choose for 
myself. 

541
00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:06,900
I'm not going to cut off 
anything and I choose to feel 

542
00:34:06,900 --> 00:34:14,800
pain and love in equal measure 
and I brutal. 

543
00:34:15,500 --> 00:34:18,900
And I just think that I've all 
of us have come to that. 

544
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:25,000
That place where, you know, buy 
some design of life, we come 

545
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,800
across a really hard rock, where
we were just like we're stuck in

546
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,000
this place. 
We don't I would rather not feel

547
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,900
anything. 
Then feel always pain and 

548
00:34:35,900 --> 00:34:40,900
suffering that I'm feeling right
now and this character is like 

549
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,500
nah man. 
I just I'd rather feel 

550
00:34:42,500 --> 00:34:46,699
everything than nothing. 
You know, I love that you bring 

551
00:34:46,699 --> 00:34:51,800
it up because in the beginning 
of the show, when he is in her 

552
00:34:51,800 --> 00:35:00,900
Library, where Orchid works and 
lives, he starts so because of 

553
00:35:00,900 --> 00:35:04,300
their kiss, he starts feeling 
everything, she feels. 

554
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,300
Hmm. 
And I remember there was a 

555
00:35:06,308 --> 00:35:10,800
particular scene where she is 
having a bad dream or a 

556
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:15,800
nightmare when she's sleeping, 
and he can feel what Feeling 

557
00:35:15,900 --> 00:35:18,700
mmm. 
And he feels fear and he's like,

558
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,300
this is what I feel. 
I haven't felt that in so long. 

559
00:35:22,300 --> 00:35:24,600
Oh my gosh. 
That's what it feels like. 

560
00:35:24,900 --> 00:35:29,900
And then you see him later on in
the show, actually, experiencing

561
00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:33,600
all these feelings of fear, and 
grief, and anger. 

562
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,300
And it's just so beautiful to 
see because he or someone who 

563
00:35:38,300 --> 00:35:41,900
could not emote or whose 
emotions were caught off 

564
00:35:42,300 --> 00:35:47,000
intentionally to someone. 
Who is brave enough to want to 

565
00:35:47,008 --> 00:35:51,100
explore it and even his 
awkwardness and exploring things

566
00:35:51,100 --> 00:35:56,500
like for some reason? 
Yes, I want you, I like you 

567
00:35:56,500 --> 00:35:58,500
Orchid. 
I'm going to spend my time with 

568
00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:02,100
you, but then with his brother, 
he's like, oh yeah, he wants to 

569
00:36:02,100 --> 00:36:06,000
kill me, whatever, like yeah. 
And she's like, trying to teach 

570
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:13,600
him how to hug his brother smile
at your brother and he's open. 

571
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,300
That's the thing that I really I
loved about his character as he 

572
00:36:18,300 --> 00:36:21,400
was growing. 
It wasn't just, I'm just doing 

573
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,200
this for you and I'm going to 
concentrate on you, but he was 

574
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:30,100
showing it to his first first 
hand man. 

575
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:35,100
His brother to the leaders and 
the moon tribe. 

576
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,500
Right rightful. 
Yeah, I agree completely that 

577
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,100
the show. 
I think see dramas normally take

578
00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:44,900
the bad guy villain is strop 
that he is. 

579
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:50,800
The archetype of that and they 
only apply any goodness and 

580
00:36:50,900 --> 00:36:53,900
benevolence and love to the 
female lead. 

581
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:59,400
Like the one person who has like
can you know talk to him the way

582
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,800
that you're talking to him, you 
know what I'm saying? 

583
00:37:01,500 --> 00:37:06,400
And be close to him and stuff 
and in this show they extended 

584
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:11,900
further than her Orchid for sure
gets the brunt of his love and 

585
00:37:11,900 --> 00:37:14,900
affection and care. 
But you know she teaches him. 

586
00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:20,100
Everyone else deserves that 
much, as well, and especially 

587
00:37:20,100 --> 00:37:22,200
your brother, especially your 
right-hand, man. 

588
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,600
Who for the large part of the 
show, he was like, I can't even 

589
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,900
trust him like I don't, I don't 
trust anybody around me and 

590
00:37:29,900 --> 00:37:32,800
she's like, um, he's extremely 
loyal to you. 

591
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,000
Of course, you can trust him. 
Like she sees straight through 

592
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,500
everybody. 
I thought that that was a 

593
00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:43,500
tremendous thing to have in the 
her character was she may not be

594
00:37:43,500 --> 00:37:47,900
strong physically, but But she's
super strong relationally and 

595
00:37:47,900 --> 00:37:51,900
emotionally, she's got so, so 
much emotional intelligence and 

596
00:37:51,900 --> 00:37:54,400
intuition. 
And she's constantly reading the

597
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,800
room and translating, subtext 
and undertones to dfq. 

598
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,500
See, who's completely clueless 
half the time and they 

599
00:38:02,500 --> 00:38:05,500
complement each other. 
And she's the one who ushers in 

600
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:10,500
this era of him being more 
intuitive emotionally. 

601
00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:14,900
And what's the word straight? 
Not straightforward. 

602
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:21,000
It forthcoming in his emotions 
and a great initiator because 

603
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,100
the brother is almost was 
brought up the same way. 

604
00:38:24,300 --> 00:38:29,500
He cannot really bridge the gap 
here between him and d f g c and

605
00:38:29,500 --> 00:38:32,400
she's like hey it kind of seems 
like your brother wanted to talk

606
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,800
to you about something in that 
conversation you were having. 

607
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,200
She just like has to tell d fq c
like hey I think you missed 

608
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:43,400
something here and she hated us 
that it's amazing to see that 

609
00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:46,500
you know, even though Orchid is 
So weak, like, they call her a 

610
00:38:46,500 --> 00:38:49,500
week, even in the, my drama list
synopsis that she's really 

611
00:38:49,500 --> 00:38:52,200
actually very strong. 
Yeah. 

612
00:38:52,500 --> 00:38:57,300
Yeah, emotional intelligence. 
She has it. 

613
00:38:57,300 --> 00:39:06,900
Mmm-hmm, I do think that it's 
every bit of a struggle for me 

614
00:39:06,900 --> 00:39:13,400
to believe and OK, you can, this
is a fantasy drama. 

615
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:18,700
I have to remind myself. 
Because I was, I think I wanted 

616
00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:23,300
to see a moment of hesitancy for
her, especially when she was 

617
00:39:23,300 --> 00:39:25,400
gun. 
Who about you do not kill the 

618
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,200
fairy kingdom. 
That's, those are my people. 

619
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,800
That's where I grew up. 
Yeti Yeti. 

620
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,000
Yeah. 
And then you find out that 

621
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,800
actually the fairy kingdom ain't
shit like they're not, they're 

622
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,400
not that good. 
And one of them is the reason 

623
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,200
why your parents died. 
So why are you holding me back 

624
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,000
from? 
Killing them off. 

625
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:54,600
Like I there was never a moment.
Yeah, these people are bad. 

626
00:39:54,900 --> 00:39:58,000
But hmm. 
I see what you're saying. 

627
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,400
Can't do that. 
I see her saying she never 

628
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,800
struggles with who's good and 
who's bad. 

629
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,800
Yes, she never does. 
She kind of thinks that 

630
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,900
everybody is there's good and 
bad and everybody or that. 

631
00:40:10,900 --> 00:40:12,600
They're sorry there's good in 
everybody. 

632
00:40:13,300 --> 00:40:15,700
Yes she did believe. 
Leave that. 

633
00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:20,400
He was bad. 
Well, yeah he was she believed 

634
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,400
he was ambiguous at first and 
then she hears stories and she's

635
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,900
like, oh you're the bad guy and 
then she sits with herself and 

636
00:40:27,900 --> 00:40:31,000
she's like, actually he's been 
very good to me. 

637
00:40:31,300 --> 00:40:34,100
Like I think y'all are just 
misunderstanding him and that's 

638
00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:38,400
when you see her trying to 
protect him, trying to hide him.

639
00:40:39,700 --> 00:40:41,800
And she did a very good job of 
that. 

640
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:49,200
But in terms of who's I, Is her 
super power, really is seeing 

641
00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:54,700
through people and understanding
what their motives are and why 

642
00:40:54,700 --> 00:40:58,300
they are doing the things they 
are doing and she just happens 

643
00:40:58,300 --> 00:41:00,500
to be correct. 
So I love that. 

644
00:41:00,500 --> 00:41:05,300
Yeah but also a, my girl give me
some revenge. 

645
00:41:05,900 --> 00:41:14,300
Give me some yes, yes, she never
takes the low road to speak of 

646
00:41:14,300 --> 00:41:20,900
her. 
I love how you bring up that she

647
00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:23,800
kind of had this skewed view of 
the Moon Supreme. 

648
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,900
And obviously, she didn't know 
that the fqc was a moon Supreme 

649
00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:30,600
for like a long time. 
Like, he was lying to her. 

650
00:41:30,900 --> 00:41:34,700
And she's talking shit about the
moon Supreme in front of him, 

651
00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:38,200
and she's like, oh yeah. 
Like he loves to eat, like dirt 

652
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,700
or whatever, like she has, all 
this like crazy misinformation 

653
00:41:40,700 --> 00:41:43,800
about the moon Supreme passed 
down through Legend. 

654
00:41:43,900 --> 00:41:48,000
Basically, cuz it's been Thirty 
Thousand years since he's quote,

655
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,500
unquote died and he gets upset, 
it's like a very cute to see. 

656
00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:56,200
But finally, I like when they 
are, they've swapped bodies, 

657
00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:00,000
she's in his body and he's in 
hers and there in the moon 

658
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,000
Supreme Kingdom there in the 
moon tribe Kingdom. 

659
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,300
Sorry. 
And she sits down to eat or 

660
00:42:06,300 --> 00:42:09,300
heat. 
Guess her in his body sits down 

661
00:42:09,300 --> 00:42:12,100
to eat and she's like, oh my 
God, what are they going to 

662
00:42:12,100 --> 00:42:13,800
serve me? 
I heard that, he likes to eat 

663
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,600
live animals and it's like this 
crazy. 

664
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,100
She's freaking out in his head 
because she thinks she's about 

665
00:42:20,100 --> 00:42:23,300
to be served like some crazy 
dish and you, like unload, like 

666
00:42:23,300 --> 00:42:27,100
all of the dishes and she's 
like, oh, this sucks even better

667
00:42:27,100 --> 00:42:30,200
than what I eat in the fairy 
kingdom like this looks really 

668
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,200
delicious and she's like, 
pleasantly surprised. 

669
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:40,300
Things like that, really kind of
break down her Prejudice or or, 

670
00:42:40,700 --> 00:42:43,500
you know, the misinformation 
that she has about Moon Supreme 

671
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,600
and it makes her kind of 
appreciate him. 

672
00:42:45,700 --> 00:42:48,800
More because look at the, you 
know, food that he eats look at 

673
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,200
the life that he lives. 
And it's she has all these 

674
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,200
misconceptions about the moon 
tribe and when she's living over

675
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,800
there, like they all come to 
naught. 

676
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,100
Yes, it's the dark kingdom. 
Yes, they were dark clothes and 

677
00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:07,200
they it was very what did they 
like the look of the kingdom and

678
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:12,000
the palace and stuff reminded me
of like like a middle eastern 

679
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,200
Kingdom. 
Like they went for that kind of 

680
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,700
Middle Eastern, looking 
aesthetic. 

681
00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:23,400
And I really appreciated that 
because I think that's also 

682
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,900
playing into, I don't know. 
This might be reading too much 

683
00:43:27,900 --> 00:43:32,900
into it, but like I feel like 
post 9/11, it has been a kind of

684
00:43:32,900 --> 00:43:38,200
Journey to bring the Middle East
into back into the good graces 

685
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,600
of like the West, right? 
And I'm sure it's kind of the 

686
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,700
same way. 
Worldwide. 

687
00:43:43,700 --> 00:43:46,900
Like I kind of expected to be on
some level, a little bit of the 

688
00:43:46,900 --> 00:43:54,000
same for other cultures and to 
see them kind of play that up in

689
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:59,300
the show a little bit to see 
them almost like, appreciate the

690
00:43:59,300 --> 00:44:01,700
Middle Eastern aesthetic and the
culture. 

691
00:44:01,700 --> 00:44:07,900
And you know they have all of 
these motifs around the palace 

692
00:44:07,900 --> 00:44:10,700
and stuff and the moon tribe and
I'm like this is stunning, this 

693
00:44:10,700 --> 00:44:14,400
is gorgeous. 
And of course The fairy kingdom 

694
00:44:14,500 --> 00:44:18,700
has all of these like crazy 
Notions about this evil Moon 

695
00:44:18,700 --> 00:44:25,200
tribe when they're just as sick 
I guess, civilized right? 

696
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,600
And and terrible as the fairy 
tribe. 

697
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,500
Like there's no, there's no 
apples and oranges here. 

698
00:44:30,500 --> 00:44:33,300
It's pretty much like green 
apple and red apple. 

699
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,600
Exactly. 
Right. 

700
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,400
So I found that kind of cool. 
Mmm. 

701
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,700
Yeah. 
So we were talking about It's we

702
00:44:43,700 --> 00:44:45,300
are actually talked about 
Orchid. 

703
00:44:45,300 --> 00:44:49,100
I think I want to talk about 
Esther a little bit because 

704
00:44:49,700 --> 00:44:54,500
Esther you, who plays Orchid 
does a pretty good job. 

705
00:44:54,500 --> 00:44:58,000
I said, in my mid, say, episode 
on the patreon feed that I was 

706
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,600
kind of annoyed by her portrayal
of orchid just because she's a 

707
00:45:02,607 --> 00:45:05,700
little bit cringy. 
She's very childish, she plays 

708
00:45:05,700 --> 00:45:08,300
egg. 
Yo lot, she's acting very cutesy

709
00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:12,400
and that sort of thing is 
compounded because he's doing it

710
00:45:12,500 --> 00:45:13,400
all the time. 
Time. 

711
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,200
It's not for a gag, it's not 
for, you know, a couple of 

712
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,100
scenes here and there, it's all 
the time. 

713
00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:23,200
She's always giggling always 
like prancing around and it 

714
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:28,400
feels just annoying to me. 
It's a little bit frustrating to

715
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:33,000
see her kind of like, almost 
like ditzy in a way like it just

716
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,400
seems like she's not all there, 
all the times. 

717
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:43,400
It doesn't care and I think that
I was expecting expecting hard 

718
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:49,200
expecting a change, whenever she
realized her identity and became

719
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,800
the goddess again, I was like, 
there's gonna be a personality 

720
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,800
change here. 
A hard left turn here because 

721
00:45:54,800 --> 00:46:01,300
she's so lovable and lovely as 
Orchid and childish and naive 

722
00:46:01,300 --> 00:46:05,100
and innocent and all this stuff.
The Goddess that she really is 

723
00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:07,800
definitely is not like that 
though, in my mind there was no 

724
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,300
way and I was Like when she 
turns back into the goddess 

725
00:46:11,300 --> 00:46:17,100
towards the end of the show, she
is quite wise and has a totally 

726
00:46:17,100 --> 00:46:19,900
different Persona. 
She doesn't like to sleep late. 

727
00:46:19,900 --> 00:46:23,500
She wakes up early, she doesn't 
need to eat food before. 

728
00:46:23,500 --> 00:46:25,900
She was a glutton and she loved 
to eat. 

729
00:46:25,900 --> 00:46:28,100
And now she's fasting all the 
time. 

730
00:46:28,100 --> 00:46:31,800
Like, lots of differences 
between Orchid and the goddess. 

731
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,500
And I kind of like that, what 
did you think about Orchid? 

732
00:46:35,500 --> 00:46:40,100
And her Esters portrayal of her?
And the Between Orchid and the 

733
00:46:40,100 --> 00:46:47,000
goddess, you know? 
I don't like too much egg yolk, 

734
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:53,700
like the cutesy bitsy Behavior, 
but I also see it as that is a 

735
00:46:53,700 --> 00:47:00,800
way that she was protecting 
herself against bullies because 

736
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:05,100
you would see her either, there 
were moments where they would be

737
00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:07,300
gossiping behind her back or 
something. 

738
00:47:07,300 --> 00:47:12,300
And then she would walk straight
up to them and say, hey, like 

739
00:47:12,300 --> 00:47:14,800
I'm going to win this thing or 
I'm participating. 

740
00:47:15,100 --> 00:47:19,300
In this competition to be made 
for Chunk on. 

741
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:26,200
And apart from that when she is 
by herself though, she does have

742
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,100
this child. 
Like she has no friends. 

743
00:47:29,300 --> 00:47:32,600
She's not really interacting 
with people people and becoming 

744
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:38,700
take their Leaf Books, and leave
and her friends were the 

745
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:44,300
fireflies, but if I like 
flowers, they were the flowers 

746
00:47:44,300 --> 00:47:46,100
in her garden. 
And that were like cultivated 

747
00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:49,100
enough to like take human form 
for a couple of minutes and then

748
00:47:49,100 --> 00:47:54,800
like go back. 
Exactly, so I feel like she was.

749
00:47:55,100 --> 00:47:57,600
She did have a lot of she's 
lovable. 

750
00:47:58,100 --> 00:48:02,300
And I think that's why chumhum 
fell for her to in the beginning

751
00:48:02,300 --> 00:48:07,400
because she was so caring of him
when he was injured, well, she's

752
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,500
a nurture by Nature. 
Yeah, exactly. 

753
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:23,900
And, and then you would see her 
sort of play up this role when 

754
00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:28,500
she was being bullied. 
Just so that I felt like she was

755
00:48:28,500 --> 00:48:32,400
using it as a protection 
mechanism, sometimes, and then 

756
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,800
other times, it was okay. 
When I have to stand up for 

757
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,100
myself, I'll stand up for myself
and then, you know, run away 

758
00:48:41,300 --> 00:48:45,200
walk away. 
So I I liked her. 

759
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:50,300
I think it was enough. 
I think her being that we really

760
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,700
Amplified the way. 
Don't fencing. 

761
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,000
Kissing, yes, the fqc. 
Yes, it's a lot. 

762
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,400
It's a lot to say every time you
say his name, it's like don't 

763
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,700
punching fun. 
Uh, see if you see. 

764
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:09,900
Okay, so his, you could see the 
contrast between the two because

765
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,600
of just how much she played her 
egg yolk. 

766
00:49:12,900 --> 00:49:16,400
Mmm. 
It was, it makes him look even 

767
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,300
more like even worse. 
I guess. 

768
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,100
I see what you're saying 
exactly, because there are 

769
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:24,400
complete Polar Opposites. 
When he doesn't have emotions 

770
00:49:24,700 --> 00:49:27,600
and history is still Like, 
rugged and nasty. 

771
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,400
Yes, the difference between them
is wild. 

772
00:49:32,900 --> 00:49:37,600
You know, she's like sunshine 
and he's like the moon, like a 

773
00:49:37,607 --> 00:49:41,200
truly is like a, he is the moon 
Supreme. 

774
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:45,200
Very, you know, barely. 
Well I can't say like Moon 

775
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,000
barely gives off light but you 
know what I'm saying? 

776
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,400
Like he's dark and she's not, 
he's brooding and he's and she's

777
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:57,100
not and yeah the juxtaposition 
of them is drastic because 

778
00:49:57,300 --> 00:49:59,200
especially because of how she's 
playing it. 

779
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:00,300
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

780
00:50:00,700 --> 00:50:04,600
I want to hear some of your 
Scenes my favorite scenes. 

781
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,000
Oh my God. 
So they have to do a lot with me

782
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,600
swooning over whatever is 
happening. 

783
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:15,500
I swear to God, I cannot believe
how many spoons are the moments 

784
00:50:15,500 --> 00:50:20,500
are in this show and I think 
that my favorite moments were, 

785
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,200
this is a long list. 
I have a, like, a laundry list 

786
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:24,800
here. 
So, just feel free to jump in, 

787
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,300
with whatever you have. 
If you agree or if you have 

788
00:50:28,300 --> 00:50:32,500
something to say about these. 
Anytime d, fq c takes. 

789
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:37,300
Care of orchid. 
IE, collecting morning, do for 

790
00:50:37,300 --> 00:50:41,500
her taking her to see the 
sunrise making her flower, soup,

791
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,400
Etc. 
All of this stuff completely 

792
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,500
sent me into a tizzy. 
What your you have, like, your 

793
00:50:47,500 --> 00:50:50,900
hand on your forehead like 
texting? 

794
00:50:50,900 --> 00:50:54,800
You like, if you're not picking 
morning, do for me, do you even 

795
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,500
love me? 
Yes, you're not taking me to see

796
00:50:57,500 --> 00:50:59,200
the sun, right? 
Do you love me? 

797
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:04,600
Like, it was so it was so, so, I
died. 

798
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,900
I was like, the get. 
If your man's is not collecting 

799
00:51:07,900 --> 00:51:10,300
morning, do for you and taking 
you to see the sunrise and 

800
00:51:10,300 --> 00:51:15,300
making you flowers soup. 
Dumped him like, he know, we 

801
00:51:15,300 --> 00:51:19,500
don't want him, okay? 
He is not goals, anytime that he

802
00:51:19,500 --> 00:51:23,500
saved her in the show. 
I like we mentioned one where he

803
00:51:23,500 --> 00:51:27,500
likes, he causes an eclipse 
splits the sky and saves her, 

804
00:51:28,300 --> 00:51:31,600
but I think that was the first 
time, but he constantly is 

805
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:36,600
saying really Dumb cheesy shit. 
When he shows up that I ate a, I

806
00:51:36,607 --> 00:51:39,500
was like eating it up. 
He was like, how dare you touch 

807
00:51:39,500 --> 00:51:41,700
my woman? 
And like, saying things like 

808
00:51:41,700 --> 00:51:45,800
that, when he showed up to save 
her and I was like hand over 

809
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:51,800
heart, I am living for it. 
I don't know why I am this way, 

810
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,900
but like, it's scratching an 
itch that I have. 

811
00:51:55,400 --> 00:52:01,200
And it's really fun to sit. 
Not fun like, you know, going on

812
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,700
a Merry-Go-Round fun. 
I'm talking Like fun 

813
00:52:03,700 --> 00:52:08,200
entertainment and like, I don't 
know. 

814
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,000
I'm swooning with every time he 
saves her that first time was 

815
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:15,300
great when he said, oh God, when
he saves her in front of the, 

816
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,500
the lord of the fairies or 
whatever. 

817
00:52:17,500 --> 00:52:19,100
And they're in this giant throne
room and they got her. 

818
00:52:19,300 --> 00:52:21,600
They got her strung up in the 
middle of their whipping her 

819
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,700
with this magical whip. 
Girl, he shows up in like he's 

820
00:52:25,700 --> 00:52:30,500
got all the the Hellfire look 
swirling around and he says his 

821
00:52:30,500 --> 00:52:32,500
cheesy line and like laying 
here. 

822
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,500
He comes up behind her and like,
puts his arm around. 

823
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,600
We're spazzing right now. 
Let's explain exactly what 

824
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:50,200
happened. 
So she is in her initiation 

825
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,400
thing to find her purpose. 
Yeah. 

826
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,600
And it doesn't work out and they
well, they like the China I, 

827
00:52:56,700 --> 00:52:59,900
what isn't it? 
The turd of the great turtle is 

828
00:52:59,900 --> 00:53:02,700
verifying all of their 
identities before their 

829
00:53:02,700 --> 00:53:06,200
initiated, as a mortal fairies, 
whatever the hell it is. 

830
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:11,900
And the turtle, she goes in the 
turtles, like, hey, I know you. 

831
00:53:11,900 --> 00:53:15,000
And she's like, what? 
And like, he just gives her some

832
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,200
like, a Scary answer. 
Like it's not time for you to 

833
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,900
like be here, some time for you 
to be a fairy. 

834
00:53:20,900 --> 00:53:24,100
Like it's good to see you old 
friend and she has no idea 

835
00:53:24,100 --> 00:53:26,900
what's going on. 
It's Spitzer back out and the 

836
00:53:26,900 --> 00:53:30,300
turtle doesn't say anything 
about her that everyone's like, 

837
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:35,300
this has never happened before. 
Oh my God, she's not an orchid. 

838
00:53:35,300 --> 00:53:38,900
What kind of thing is she like 
there was no confirmation about 

839
00:53:39,100 --> 00:53:41,500
who she is or what she is. 
So they got release us. 

840
00:53:41,900 --> 00:53:44,600
They I think what did the guys? 
The lord of the fairies like 

841
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:49,900
sent down like What a fire, 
something to harm her and the 

842
00:53:49,900 --> 00:53:54,000
Hellfire bracelet like the 
bracelet made out of his blood. 

843
00:53:54,700 --> 00:53:58,700
It activates and likes ends up 
like a flurry of Hellfire to 

844
00:53:58,700 --> 00:54:02,200
protect her and they're like oh 
my God it's what was that 

845
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,500
Hellfire and then that's when 
they get really suspicious of 

846
00:54:05,500 --> 00:54:09,000
her in these Stringer up to try 
and figure out who is she is? 

847
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,000
She from the Moon tribe, like 
what's going on? 

848
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,100
As this is like I got a fucking 
clue. 

849
00:54:20,100 --> 00:54:23,400
Yeah, they're like, where is 
don't function song and she's 

850
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,700
like, I don't know why I thought
he was dead, like she has no 

851
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,900
clue. 
And he shows up, he shows up, 

852
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:36,200
I'll see why she's in pain. 
He's doing his thing, trying to 

853
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:40,800
revive the moon tribe Army and 
he feels her pain. 

854
00:54:41,100 --> 00:54:47,000
So he shows up while she's like 
being strong and the air with 

855
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,800
these gold, I guess. 
Chains chains. 

856
00:54:50,900 --> 00:54:58,500
Yeah, and he comes behind her 
and grabs her. 

857
00:54:58,900 --> 00:55:01,200
Waste. 
And we see that shot of his 

858
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,500
house. 
Come on, yes. 

859
00:55:03,500 --> 00:55:06,300
But then they pan up to his face
and he's just like glitter. 

860
00:55:06,300 --> 00:55:12,400
He looks up at the guy glares at
the man and I'm like, oh God, it

861
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,400
does something. 
I just really like I know, I 

862
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:21,800
know, I know, I know, I know and
then he like gingerly like sets 

863
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,300
her down and he's like, you 
know, dealing with her while 

864
00:55:25,300 --> 00:55:27,600
they're in the bubble of 
Hellfire, like nothing can 

865
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,300
penetrate. 
This Shield that he put up and 

866
00:55:30,300 --> 00:55:33,100
he's just like, taking his times
like, are you okay? 

867
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:37,200
She's talking, like, you lied to
me and he's like, sorry about 

868
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,500
it. 
Like it's not like there's 

869
00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:41,500
nothing he can, he has no 
emotions at this point. 

870
00:55:41,500 --> 00:55:45,700
So he's just like, yeah. 
Um, oh my God. 

871
00:55:45,700 --> 00:55:49,400
Then he like reaches out to the 
side and like pick gets the 

872
00:55:49,500 --> 00:55:53,200
bracelet that she had thrown out
like puts it back on her like 

873
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:58,500
it's very like oh my God, a lot 
of possession happening. 

874
00:55:58,700 --> 00:56:04,400
And what's it called? 
Like territorial stuff. 

875
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:09,900
That feels very like animalistic
but I don't know why it works 

876
00:56:09,900 --> 00:56:18,000
for me. 
I don't like to explore with our

877
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:22,100
therapist. 
Yes, what he's like. 

878
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,200
How dare you touch? 
What is mine also? 

879
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,100
You got to tell him every time 
he saves her. 

880
00:56:32,100 --> 00:56:36,800
I am super bunny so wounding. 
Yeah. 

881
00:56:36,900 --> 00:56:41,000
Oh God, absolutely. 
So I don't know if there's any 

882
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,000
other times that you can think 
of that he saves her but those 

883
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,000
are like the two main times that
I thought of right now. 

884
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:51,000
He takes the 51 bolts of 
lightning shirtless. 

885
00:56:53,100 --> 00:57:00,200
I was going to school. 
Go for it, go for it because I 

886
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,200
think he had a slightly 
different reaction than I did. 

887
00:57:03,100 --> 00:57:07,900
Yeah. 
So, his brother is taking these 

888
00:57:07,900 --> 00:57:14,100
bolts for punishments for, you 
know, trying to pull a fast one 

889
00:57:14,100 --> 00:57:19,100
on him. 
And he collects 30, and it's 

890
00:57:19,100 --> 00:57:23,600
left with like 51. 
And his mother is like, you know

891
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:27,800
what, I'm gonna take care for 
him, takes off his shirt and all

892
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,900
sigh. 
Oh well, it's like a Tearaway 

893
00:57:29,900 --> 00:57:33,800
shirt. 
Yes, why the shirt is terribly? 

894
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,800
I don't know. 
I don't know. 

895
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:42,500
But the effect that it needed to
have happened and they and then 

896
00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:45,500
I thought it was a beautiful 
moment, you know. 

897
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,400
Know what. 
Even though you're a fucking up,

898
00:57:47,500 --> 00:57:51,900
you're still my brother. 
I still care for you at that 

899
00:57:51,900 --> 00:57:55,600
time, though. 
I don't know if I was, I just 

900
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,100
wanted to get the brother felt 
like an annoying tick that you 

901
00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:00,900
wanted to take off. 
All right? 

902
00:58:00,900 --> 00:58:07,200
I'm just like, let's just get 
rid of him but I also see that 

903
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,900
okay? 
It is your family at the time, 

904
00:58:10,900 --> 00:58:15,500
he couldn't really or he was 
just starting. 

905
00:58:15,700 --> 00:58:17,500
Into grass. 
Mmm. 

906
00:58:17,700 --> 00:58:23,000
The effect of killing his dad. 
Yeah, starting to feel all the 

907
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,300
yeah, I'm shins and he sees 
where his brother is coming 

908
00:58:26,300 --> 00:58:29,200
from. 
So it was a very sweet moment 

909
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,700
and I'm not sure in that moment,
the brother got it, he felt 

910
00:58:33,700 --> 00:58:38,500
like, oh, you're just trying to 
show off or something and after 

911
00:58:38,500 --> 00:58:40,600
the brother was like you know 
what, you didn't have to do 

912
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,400
that. 
That was that was really nice of

913
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,000
you, right? 
Well Orchid, helps that. 

914
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,600
A pout because after you takes 
the bolts of lightning, he's 

915
00:58:49,100 --> 00:58:52,600
injured and can't really speak 
for himself and or get helps him

916
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,200
off the floor. 
And this is when the brothers, 

917
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,300
like, I can't believe you did 
this little blond like talking 

918
00:58:58,300 --> 00:59:01,500
shit about him again. 
And she says, he didn't do this 

919
00:59:01,500 --> 00:59:04,500
for any. 
You no reason to look Brave or 

920
00:59:04,500 --> 00:59:10,900
anything he did this as a result
of, you know, feeling guilty and

921
00:59:11,300 --> 00:59:13,200
all this. 
All these new feelings that he 

922
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:17,400
has guilt and grief and remorse.
These things and she sets down 

923
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,500
that mirror thing that like, 
recorded their conversation in 

924
00:59:20,500 --> 00:59:25,200
this spiritual realm with his 
dad and like, that whole entire 

925
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,600
thing. 
And so, the brother gets to hear

926
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:32,000
the father talk about why he set
out his emotions and why 

927
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:38,000
tortured him and he gets to hear
this reconciliation and that's 

928
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,600
when the brothers like, oh wow, 
I totally read that wrong. 

929
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:44,600
The 51 bolts of lightning, so 
yeah, that was good. 

930
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:48,600
But What did you think of Dylan 
shirtless? 

931
00:59:53,100 --> 00:59:55,800
It's all the shallow and I feel 
like this is the shallowest I've

932
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,800
ever been on the show ever. 
Been on that bike. 

933
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,900
I like so. 
What did you think of Dylan 

934
01:00:02,900 --> 01:00:08,000
shirtless? 
Okay, go. 

935
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,500
It did not look like he was 
wearing one of those prosthetic 

936
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,900
know that. 
Yes, because that made the 

937
01:00:14,900 --> 01:00:18,000
rounds on Tick. 
Tock to was this lady sharing 

938
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:23,700
this, like behind the scenes, 
look at a Out of these see drama

939
01:00:23,700 --> 01:00:25,600
stars that have to do is to 
shirtless seeing. 

940
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,000
They don't work out for it. 
They don't like beef up Marvel 

941
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,100
style. 
What they do is they have this 

942
01:00:30,100 --> 01:00:34,100
like bodysuit the type where 
that has like ABS in it and it 

943
01:00:34,100 --> 01:00:36,900
makes him look really buff, but 
its fake. 

944
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:43,400
So I don't think it was the body
suit like that Tick Tock. 

945
01:00:44,300 --> 01:00:49,200
Yeah, expose thing happened. 
I think it was a body double but

946
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,400
now I'm not sure because As I'm 
currently watching, Miss the 

947
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,500
Dragon. 
And there's a moment where he 

948
01:00:56,500 --> 01:01:00,700
see him like, you know, 
shirtless and I was like, man, 

949
01:01:00,700 --> 01:01:05,600
that looks pretty identical to 
his body in this scene when he 

950
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,900
like rips off his shirt about to
take the lightning. 

951
01:01:08,300 --> 01:01:11,600
And I was like, that. 
Is that is that really be Dylan?

952
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:15,400
I don't know that I still have 
say a body double I don't. 

953
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,400
It could also be the same body 
double so I don't know. 

954
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:25,700
I did see a behind-the-scenes a 
Scenes is putting it lightly. 

955
01:01:25,700 --> 01:01:30,900
I binge-watched a bunch of 
behind-the-scenes videos on 

956
01:01:30,900 --> 01:01:33,300
YouTube. 
I was going apeshit on YouTube 

957
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:38,700
fell into a hole like ours, I 
was on there, looking at behind 

958
01:01:38,700 --> 01:01:43,100
the scenes footage and some of 
it was was subbed so that I 

959
01:01:43,100 --> 01:01:44,700
could understand what they were 
saying. 

960
01:01:44,700 --> 01:01:49,200
But a lot of it was not, I was 
there like, you know, raw 

961
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,000
Mandarin. 
I had no idea what they were 

962
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,700
even saying but I was like 
watching behind The scene stuff.

963
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,000
And they but this was an 
interview that Dylan had done 

964
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,300
done, and they asked him, like, 
how did you prepare for that 

965
01:02:01,300 --> 01:02:04,100
scene? 
And he said, oh, I just did like

966
01:02:04,100 --> 01:02:07,300
a bunch of push-ups before hand 
and then just like shot at Point

967
01:02:07,300 --> 01:02:12,100
Park, please. 
And I was like, okay, okay, so I

968
01:02:12,100 --> 01:02:13,900
don't know. 
But then, you know, other 

969
01:02:13,900 --> 01:02:15,700
interviews, he was saying, like,
look, I'm very calm. 

970
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,100
He didn't say he was 
competitive, but this is what I 

971
01:02:18,100 --> 01:02:20,100
got that. 
He was very, he is very 

972
01:02:20,100 --> 01:02:24,700
competitive and if he sees other
peers or seeds, Rama stars that 

973
01:02:24,700 --> 01:02:26,500
are posting like Jim sell visa 
and shit. 

974
01:02:26,500 --> 01:02:29,800
He'll go to the gym. 
He like, wants to one-up them. 

975
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:35,100
He wants to look really good and
yeah, so he goes to the gym and 

976
01:02:35,100 --> 01:02:37,300
he works out and stuff, but I 
don't know if it was like all 

977
01:02:37,300 --> 01:02:41,600
that, you know say, I don't know
if it was enough to pass for me 

978
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,600
thinking. 
It's a body double. 

979
01:02:45,300 --> 01:02:49,100
Yeah, I don't know. 
He's worth in, I don't know. 

980
01:02:50,300 --> 01:02:54,300
I don't think I thought about. 
He could be like slimthick. 

981
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:59,800
He could be slimthick. 
I of Carol. 

982
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:01,200
I've never heard that in my 
life. 

983
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,400
What do you mean? 
I've never slid thing. 

984
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,900
Oh my God. 
Okay, talk to me like like 

985
01:03:07,900 --> 01:03:13,100
slimthick is your skinny but we 
can tell you work out. 

986
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,300
So okay. 
Okay, definitions. 

987
01:03:16,900 --> 01:03:21,100
Maybe your back muscles or your 
Your biceps not kind of. 

988
01:03:21,100 --> 01:03:23,600
Are you happy? 
I got you. 

989
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:29,500
So I think he is slimthick, huh?
But it could also feel we should

990
01:03:31,100 --> 01:03:37,600
actually say, let's just say, I 
went to shirt came off. 

991
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:42,900
I was on the floor. 
I hit the ground. 

992
01:03:43,300 --> 01:03:45,300
I hit, I hit the ground. 
Yeah. 

993
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,600
Yeah. 
If this is how we're gonna get 

994
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,200
it, we'll take it. 
Mmm. 

995
01:03:49,500 --> 01:03:55,400
Sure. 
Okay. 

996
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,800
Okay. 
So, that's that scene. 

997
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:03,700
I think any time they kissed her
swap bodies was great. 

998
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:08,600
The one in front of Lord tongue.
Yeah, the forest surrounding the

999
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:14,200
moon tribe, Palace. 
I talk to me Carol, Carol. 

1000
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:24,900
So so bodies. 
And run, how and chunk hung on. 

1001
01:04:24,900 --> 01:04:27,000
Yeah. 
Okay this is a moment to 

1002
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:35,600
actually completely kill 
Supreme, mmm, and sex is like, I

1003
01:04:35,607 --> 01:04:37,700
can't you but I don't want you 
to do that. 

1004
01:04:37,700 --> 01:04:41,600
So I'ma kiss him back. 
So the kiss and they switch back

1005
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:47,100
and that could have been it. 
My, the second case the second 

1006
01:04:47,100 --> 01:04:49,300
kiss. 
Oh, so what? 

1007
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:54,000
He does is why why he grabs the 
back of her neck. 

1008
01:04:55,900 --> 01:05:01,100
I had full body Goosebumps 
because heat it, so they switch 

1009
01:05:01,100 --> 01:05:03,200
back. 
It's a great moment because 

1010
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:07,100
they're both like, no, they 
don't want each other to, you 

1011
01:05:07,107 --> 01:05:11,300
know, die or leave or whatever, 
especially her because they were

1012
01:05:11,300 --> 01:05:13,900
literally, like you said, they 
were like, okay, great, they 

1013
01:05:13,900 --> 01:05:17,300
swap bodies, he's in her 
weak-ass body, we can just kill 

1014
01:05:17,300 --> 01:05:22,400
her or that body kill him and 
then take her inside the 

1015
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:26,100
excuses, body back to the fairy 
realm and like Grow and her a 

1016
01:05:26,107 --> 01:05:31,400
new body or whatever, like swap 
them, and that was the plan for 

1017
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,600
Cheung Kong and wrong out there.
Like, oh yeah, good plan. 

1018
01:05:33,900 --> 01:05:37,500
We can just kill the Moon Moon 
Supreme right now that she's 

1019
01:05:37,500 --> 01:05:39,900
like, she's like no goes to kiss
him. 

1020
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,200
They switched back. 
It's like a full-on 

1021
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,600
transformation. 
Every time. 

1022
01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:48,000
They swap bodies because they're
both. 

1023
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:52,100
So great at playing each other 
and they swap back. 

1024
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,200
He's got the glare back on. 
He's got the cool vibes. 

1025
01:05:55,300 --> 01:06:00,200
Like the man again and oh my God
he I think she's like in his in 

1026
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,000
his on his arm or something at 
this point and she starts 

1027
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,100
running to chungcheong. 
She's like chonga and like 

1028
01:06:05,100 --> 01:06:10,200
steaks off toward him Carol. 
When I tell you, when he reached

1029
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:14,900
out and grabbed the back of her 
neck and pulled her back and 

1030
01:06:14,900 --> 01:06:19,700
kisses her like plants went on 
her and then as she still like 

1031
01:06:19,700 --> 01:06:24,500
kind of in his in his hand he 
looks up and glares at chunking 

1032
01:06:24,500 --> 01:06:26,700
like yeah. 
Yeah, marking my territory. 

1033
01:06:26,700 --> 01:06:30,400
This is mine. 
She's not yours like very much a

1034
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,700
possession. 
Like another, like possessive 

1035
01:06:32,700 --> 01:06:39,500
seen, and I have no night. 
I was like, call me toxic, call 

1036
01:06:39,500 --> 01:06:42,800
me toxic, because this was 
feeding me in a way that I 

1037
01:06:42,808 --> 01:06:44,400
didn't know. 
I needed to be fed. 

1038
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:51,000
I was, oh my God. 
I just was like, it was such an 

1039
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,400
unnecessary move. 
Oh my God. 

1040
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:57,700
Yeah. 
But he wanted to show his 

1041
01:06:57,700 --> 01:07:02,600
dominance. 
Mmm chunk like you ain't shit. 

1042
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,800
Like it's also, it's also 
dominance to like, not just like

1043
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,600
she's mine. 
It's also, you know, she's not 

1044
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,600
yours. 
Yes. 

1045
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,500
Yes. 
That's the important thing that 

1046
01:07:13,500 --> 01:07:17,400
he I think he was trying to 
communicate to Chunk on saying, 

1047
01:07:18,500 --> 01:07:22,200
she may not be mine, she is in 
my arms right now but she's 

1048
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:28,100
definitely not yours. 
So, back off very much dominance

1049
01:07:28,100 --> 01:07:32,500
move. 
And let's explore why we like 

1050
01:07:32,500 --> 01:07:35,200
this so much. 
Do we do we need to explore? 

1051
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:38,900
I thought we were gonna leave 
that for a therapist because, oh

1052
01:07:38,900 --> 01:07:39,700
God. 
Okay. 

1053
01:07:39,700 --> 01:07:45,400
Go like I'm just comparing the 
two guys, and the thing with 

1054
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:49,800
Cheung Kong was. 
Yes, he loved or yeah, we seem 

1055
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:53,900
to think he loved Orchid. 
Yeah, he loved or cared for her.

1056
01:07:53,900 --> 01:07:56,300
Yeah. 
Cared for her, he took care of 

1057
01:07:56,300 --> 01:08:01,200
her and the way he could Xin the
bounce of within the bounds of 

1058
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:02,700
what he could. 
Uh-huh. 

1059
01:08:02,700 --> 01:08:08,200
But at the same time, it was 
kind of like I'm waiting around 

1060
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,800
for potential and potential is 
not coming. 

1061
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,000
Like what the what's wrong with 
you? 

1062
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:17,300
Why can't you be? 
I don't want to say be a man why

1063
01:08:17,300 --> 01:08:20,300
can't you be a sort of? 
Yeah. 

1064
01:08:20,500 --> 01:08:24,899
And what you want and tell me. 
Hey I'm It. 

1065
01:08:24,899 --> 01:08:29,300
Can you I want to be with you. 
Let's do this F, the world. 

1066
01:08:29,300 --> 01:08:32,800
Like he came to that realization
too late for me. 

1067
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:40,000
Yes that yes, wow, wow, Moon. 
God was just like, it's you from

1068
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,399
number one and that's it. 
Everything else will have to 

1069
01:08:43,399 --> 01:08:48,899
work around it while I felt like
with Chuck Hung She had to work 

1070
01:08:48,899 --> 01:08:54,100
around everything. 
Oh okay so yes I agree with you 

1071
01:08:54,108 --> 01:08:55,899
completely. 
Why this has to do a lot with 

1072
01:08:55,899 --> 01:08:59,300
Cheung Kong and his ark. 
And the way they formatted his 

1073
01:08:59,300 --> 01:09:04,700
character because he is the 
archetypal hero, and he is 

1074
01:09:04,700 --> 01:09:09,800
duty-bound. 
And so, a lot of his personal 

1075
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:14,800
life is not his personal life. 
He can't choose his own bride. 

1076
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:20,200
He can't kind of work outside of
his duty as the god of war. 

1077
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:24,600
And so, I agree with you, that 
that moment is also kind of 

1078
01:09:24,700 --> 01:09:27,899
Highlighting the fact that he 
can't. 

1079
01:09:27,899 --> 01:09:29,700
He can't even like stake a claim
really. 

1080
01:09:29,700 --> 01:09:34,500
He has no right to stake a claim
on Orchid, and her feelings. 

1081
01:09:34,500 --> 01:09:37,700
And even tell her that he has 
feelings for her. 

1082
01:09:39,500 --> 01:09:46,800
A lot of the I think that What's
fun about the not fine. 

1083
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,899
But like what's interesting 
about the show is that Moon 

1084
01:09:49,899 --> 01:09:54,800
Supreme is definitely choosing 
her like throughout the show. 

1085
01:09:55,100 --> 01:10:00,900
He is trying to also bridge the 
gap between her and his people, 

1086
01:10:01,100 --> 01:10:04,300
like the moon tribe is very 
against them being together and 

1087
01:10:04,300 --> 01:10:07,500
they consider her unlucky and 
you know, there's all these 

1088
01:10:07,500 --> 01:10:10,100
things that he hopes that he has
to jump through to be with her 

1089
01:10:10,100 --> 01:10:14,600
but he's willing to do it and 
towards the end of the show. 

1090
01:10:14,700 --> 01:10:20,700
He's torn because his love for 
her is directly contrasting. 

1091
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:27,900
What he can do to free 100,000 
of his people and revive his 

1092
01:10:27,900 --> 01:10:32,500
Moon tribe and like fulfill his 
own destiny and it's just it's 

1093
01:10:32,500 --> 01:10:37,100
really sad to see him. 
Do that to see him, struggle 

1094
01:10:37,100 --> 01:10:40,000
with that. 
But Chung is basically doing the

1095
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,000
same thing only earlier in the 
show. 

1096
01:10:42,100 --> 01:10:49,600
Were he is, can Deviate from his
Immortal path and he's just so 

1097
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:55,700
Bound by his role in the fairy 
kingdom, and his brother and all

1098
01:10:55,700 --> 01:11:00,400
this stuff. 
He's not brave enough to even 

1099
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:05,600
step outside of that. 
William and Harry! 

1100
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,900
Oh my god. 
Wow, what a time capsule. 

1101
01:11:10,900 --> 01:11:12,700
This episode is going to be. 
All right, I'm assuming you're 

1102
01:11:12,700 --> 01:11:14,800
watching the Megan and Harry 
dock, right? 

1103
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:18,500
I'm not. 
You're not, I grilled the tea is

1104
01:11:18,500 --> 01:11:20,500
hot. 
Okay is it? 

1105
01:11:20,500 --> 01:11:23,800
It's small pits, the Tweety we 
know about but yeah, it's still 

1106
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,000
pretty warm. 
Pretty warm to eat. 

1107
01:11:28,700 --> 01:11:33,400
Okay, I just love drama. 
Okay, so yeah, a tongue. 

1108
01:11:34,500 --> 01:11:36,500
One last thing I'll say about 
him is that I love how they 

1109
01:11:36,500 --> 01:11:41,400
never wrote him to become a 
secondary villain because yes, a

1110
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:46,400
lot of second male leads in see 
dramas, especially turn out to 

1111
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,900
be some sort of villainous 
person towards the end. 

1112
01:11:49,300 --> 01:11:52,600
They don't respect her choice. 
They kind of force their way 

1113
01:11:52,900 --> 01:11:57,200
into a relationship with the 
female leader, what have you? 

1114
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,500
And in this case, he was very 
respectful of her choice and 

1115
01:12:00,500 --> 01:12:03,300
actually supported her whenever 
he could. 

1116
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,900
And by the end of the drama, you
know, he's out of place of 

1117
01:12:06,900 --> 01:12:10,700
acceptance and he ends up. 
Shirking off the burdensome duty

1118
01:12:10,700 --> 01:12:14,900
of being the god of war, and 
he's happy to relinquish it to 

1119
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:20,500
the up-and-coming ferried. 
I mean, I love how you know 

1120
01:12:20,900 --> 01:12:26,300
tongue hung again. 
We were saying that he's not of 

1121
01:12:26,300 --> 01:12:27,100
one. 
What is it? 

1122
01:12:27,100 --> 01:12:31,200
Like a divided like he's divided
in his heart about what to do 

1123
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,400
with Orchid and how to proceed 
with. 

1124
01:12:33,900 --> 01:12:37,500
Even pursuing her and saving her
because he thinks she's in 

1125
01:12:37,500 --> 01:12:39,200
danger by going to the being in 
the moon. 

1126
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:42,700
Try but all this stuff but by 
the time they come back from 

1127
01:12:42,700 --> 01:12:48,600
their mortal realm trial like 
he's like full-on like fuck you 

1128
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,600
I don't want to be the God of 
War anymore. 

1129
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:51,800
I don't want to fight your 
battles. 

1130
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,300
You just you're just a war 
mongering dude. 

1131
01:12:54,500 --> 01:12:58,700
You just hateful and I don't 
want to be doing your bidding 

1132
01:12:58,700 --> 01:13:02,700
anymore and he has this whole 
like there's a rift now between 

1133
01:13:02,700 --> 01:13:04,600
him and his brother. 
And it's great to see. 

1134
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,400
He helps them get away back to 
the Moon tribe. 

1135
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:09,800
It's great. 
Like he actually takes a stand 

1136
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:13,600
at that point and it's still a 
stand where he's supporting her.

1137
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:19,400
He's not like trying to woo her 
at this point, that just got me 

1138
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:26,700
to the next kiss. 
Kissy, when he super weak and 

1139
01:13:26,700 --> 01:13:33,000
she gives him stop. 
And she gives him her blood 

1140
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:37,000
because she's like my My blood 
has healing powers and he's 

1141
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:40,000
like, don't be giving your blood
to just anybody. 

1142
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:46,400
Yes, he's like don't do that. 
Even for me even for me and this

1143
01:13:46,500 --> 01:13:52,900
in your lap kiss that was 
supposed to go on but we had 

1144
01:13:52,900 --> 01:13:57,700
some interrupt errs place. 
Can you guys go away? 

1145
01:13:58,300 --> 01:14:00,800
It was such a precious moment. 
God. 

1146
01:14:03,900 --> 01:14:06,800
You got the campfire, the Cozy 
campfire. 

1147
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,300
She just saves him with her 
blood, she's desperate. 

1148
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,100
And yeah, he tells her don't do 
that again. 

1149
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:16,200
Even for him and he starts 
asking her like why did you save

1150
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:17,600
me? 
Why did you come back to the 

1151
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:19,900
Moon tribe? 
You had a way out. 

1152
01:14:19,900 --> 01:14:22,200
Yeah, I know that all this time,
you've wanted to go back to she 

1153
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:26,400
and John, I know that you wanted
to go home, why didn't you take 

1154
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:31,000
this opportunity to go home and 
she deflects, she doesn't want 

1155
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,000
to talk about it and then he 
grabs her and pulls her Back 

1156
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:37,500
into his lap and then he's like,
he's gently like Whispers again.

1157
01:14:37,500 --> 01:14:42,100
Like why did you save me? 
And before she can respond he 

1158
01:14:42,100 --> 01:14:44,800
like kisses her and it's such a 
culmination. 

1159
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:51,200
What a moment I it's been a long
time coming because they had 

1160
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:55,100
been throughout the Mortal trial
just at odds with each other 

1161
01:14:55,100 --> 01:14:58,100
bickering and weren't kind of 
succumbing. 

1162
01:14:58,100 --> 01:15:00,300
So their feelings at this point 
even though everyone knows they 

1163
01:15:00,300 --> 01:15:05,300
catch the cat feelings for each 
other, and And oh my God, it was

1164
01:15:05,300 --> 01:15:06,800
great. 
And there are wedding attire. 

1165
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:16,500
Like you're just Uh-huh. 
Well, comes to the realization 

1166
01:15:16,500 --> 01:15:25,000
like he likes Orchid and and 
then he walks over and he's 

1167
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:29,600
like, oh, you're meeting my wife
and I like Bravo you're doing 

1168
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:34,100
the same thing again. 
Carol. 

1169
01:15:34,700 --> 01:15:37,200
Well, let's talk about the 
Mortal trial for a couple of 

1170
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:40,500
minutes here, because I think 
that this is actually a lot more

1171
01:15:40,500 --> 01:15:43,200
episodes than I was anticipating
happening. 

1172
01:15:44,500 --> 01:15:49,800
My complain about the Mortal 
trial is that the, they were 

1173
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,300
just a little bit boring. 
Like, the episodes were 

1174
01:15:52,300 --> 01:15:56,900
generally a little bit boring, a
little bit, lighter tone, and I 

1175
01:15:56,907 --> 01:15:58,400
think I would have preferred 
more steaks. 

1176
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:02,300
These episodes, again, were 
punctuated by neither of them 

1177
01:16:02,300 --> 01:16:04,400
letting go. 
Oh, of their pride so that they 

1178
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,500
can finally come together. 
Share their feelings for each 

1179
01:16:06,500 --> 01:16:08,200
other. 
They were muddling around in a 

1180
01:16:08,208 --> 01:16:12,000
lot of jealousy and they were 
serving attitude to each other 

1181
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,500
and doing a lot of underhanded, 
comments to each other pushing 

1182
01:16:15,500 --> 01:16:17,400
each other away. 
And I think it just lasted too 

1183
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:23,000
long, but I feel like the end of
the Mortal trial was a 

1184
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,600
highlight. 
I think the that episode was 

1185
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:29,500
really, really juicy. 
And some of the stuff that he 

1186
01:16:29,500 --> 01:16:32,900
does in the Mortal tri-d fqc 
does in the Mortal trial is 

1187
01:16:33,500 --> 01:16:37,400
Really fun because again, he's 
like claiming her as his wife 

1188
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:40,500
and he's like calling her like 
darling and honey and like all 

1189
01:16:40,500 --> 01:16:45,300
these things and he's very 
unwilling to marry her off. 

1190
01:16:45,300 --> 01:16:47,600
To The Reincarnation of Lord 
chunga. 

1191
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:54,300
He will just not let her go and 
he is also very Resolute. 

1192
01:16:54,300 --> 01:16:57,500
That marriage is a serious thing
and they shouldn't fake it or 

1193
01:16:57,500 --> 01:17:00,000
metal in it. 
And I'm like, well that's 

1194
01:17:00,500 --> 01:17:02,300
hitting all the right notes. 
You know what I'm saying, like 

1195
01:17:02,300 --> 01:17:07,000
that. 4D fqc to be. 
So like, no, we can't just marry

1196
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:10,300
the wrong Partners just so that 
we can like help them get 

1197
01:17:10,300 --> 01:17:12,800
through their mortal trial. 
That's just that. 

1198
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:19,500
Yeah, like fuck them like no. 
So very much slight light, Swoon

1199
01:17:19,500 --> 01:17:22,800
worthy, moment throughout. 
And then the final episode of 

1200
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:27,000
the human trial was super juicy 
because they're together 

1201
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,300
drinking on the wedding night 
even though they didn't marry 

1202
01:17:29,300 --> 01:17:32,900
each other, but yeah, you know 
she's asking him. 

1203
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,600
Really loaded questions. 
Like what is his true purpose in

1204
01:17:35,608 --> 01:17:38,900
luo Chun. 
Why did he lie to her? 

1205
01:17:39,300 --> 01:17:43,400
And she refuses to go along with
this plan that wrong, how had 

1206
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:47,100
developed that, she has to 
poison him, and she's refuses to

1207
01:17:47,100 --> 01:17:50,600
poison him. 
And again he's talking dfq, 

1208
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,500
cease talking about like, 
raising the fairy realm to the 

1209
01:17:53,500 --> 01:17:59,200
ground that he has all these 
plans for war and she's 

1210
01:17:59,700 --> 01:18:04,000
overwhelmed with Despair and 
love because As despite her best

1211
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:09,100
efforts in all of this time, he 
still wants war and he still 

1212
01:18:09,100 --> 01:18:11,500
wants to destroy her Homeland 
and her people. 

1213
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:16,100
So she's torn. 
She's devastated and very sad. 

1214
01:18:16,100 --> 01:18:19,800
But then you have this fight 
scene because like they possess 

1215
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:23,900
lady Chidi with like evil Chi 
and she like comes after them 

1216
01:18:23,900 --> 01:18:30,800
and they run how put like a evil
Chi bead and the the fairy 

1217
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,600
orchids headpiece. 
Since stuff. 

1218
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:37,600
So like that goes off like a 
little bomb of evil Chi and he 

1219
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,300
saves her. 
Even though she's basically 

1220
01:18:40,300 --> 01:18:44,200
impervious to evil Chi because 
of her goddess Powers, he's 

1221
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:48,700
still enters this like Maelstrom
of evil Chi saves her. 

1222
01:18:48,700 --> 01:18:55,000
Then this is great she finally 
saves him because so far in the 

1223
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,000
show she has been a damsel in 
distress. 

1224
01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:00,700
And at this point she finally 
saves him. 

1225
01:19:00,700 --> 01:19:03,700
She like, kind of dips into 
those Goddess powers. 

1226
01:19:03,700 --> 01:19:07,900
And it's the stunning green like
color as she like fends off the 

1227
01:19:07,900 --> 01:19:11,100
evil Chi and she like stands up 
and looks really powerful and 

1228
01:19:11,100 --> 01:19:14,800
fierce for a minute and you're 
just like, yes, like your cut. 

1229
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:16,400
It's like turning in the right 
direction. 

1230
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:20,700
Like I see this ship of the plot
kind of steering in a different 

1231
01:19:20,700 --> 01:19:25,000
direction at this point because 
she's finally becoming who she's

1232
01:19:25,100 --> 01:19:26,800
always been. 
Yeah. 

1233
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:29,800
And at this point, you have QC 
realizes who she is. 

1234
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,500
And he's like, oh my God, it's 
the goddess, and it's great, 

1235
01:19:32,500 --> 01:19:34,700
it's great. 
Then we get to that whole. 

1236
01:19:34,700 --> 01:19:40,100
Like she saves him on the shores
of Oblivion River. 

1237
01:19:40,100 --> 01:19:44,000
And he protects her until he 
collapses, and it's like, Lord, 

1238
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:48,200
chumhum gets shows up and he's 
like beckoning her to come home 

1239
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:53,500
and she chooses him, she chooses
the FTC and that's when you get 

1240
01:19:53,500 --> 01:19:56,100
to like the campfire scene with 
the kiss at all. 

1241
01:19:56,100 --> 01:20:00,700
It's like all of this is all 
strung together and I loved that

1242
01:20:00,700 --> 01:20:02,800
episode and I love the end of 
there. 

1243
01:20:02,900 --> 01:20:05,900
Mortal trial. 
I loved it. 

1244
01:20:06,100 --> 01:20:09,700
I didn't think that mortal trial
was slow. 

1245
01:20:09,700 --> 01:20:12,800
Like you said, I'm just like, 
what are we doing here? 

1246
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,400
Like humans have no power. 
They're so boring. 

1247
01:20:17,100 --> 01:20:18,400
Yeah, they're like we can't use 
our powers. 

1248
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:21,500
Don't like why? 
Exactly. 

1249
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:28,000
And then towards the end when 
she comes into her priesthood, I

1250
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:31,000
was like oh this is this is 
fire. 

1251
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:37,000
I love that she saved him. 
And we'll get there but towards 

1252
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:42,500
the end when she becomes the 
Priestess and she has to she 

1253
01:20:42,500 --> 01:20:45,100
sort of disconnects from her 
emotions. 

1254
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,900
Hmm. 
And wants to focus on her 

1255
01:20:48,900 --> 01:20:51,000
Mission. 
Just like he did when he was 

1256
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:56,500
Moon Supreme and had Hellfire 
and I thought just the journey 

1257
01:20:56,500 --> 01:20:58,900
for both of them beautifully 
done. 

1258
01:20:59,300 --> 01:21:02,600
Get around a couple goals for 
sure. 

1259
01:21:03,500 --> 01:21:05,800
I have in my notes, their 
relationship started out very 

1260
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:09,800
imbalanced, but they grow into 
each other, they grow into each 

1261
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:11,800
other, and by the end, they're 
just so balanced. 

1262
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:15,300
Because, of course, he was 
calling all the shots. 

1263
01:21:15,300 --> 01:21:17,700
He was very aggressive, a 
tyrant. 

1264
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:21,900
And by the end, they have this 
mutual respect for each other 

1265
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:26,300
and it is wonderful to see that 
in a see drama where he humbles 

1266
01:21:26,300 --> 01:21:30,700
himself and she humbles herself 
and they just, they just end up 

1267
01:21:30,700 --> 01:21:32,900
being like this match made in 
heaven, even though they're 

1268
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:36,600
technically Star-crossed lovers.
So I love to see that. 

1269
01:21:36,700 --> 01:21:39,400
For sure. 
Oh my gosh. 

1270
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:43,200
Enter into the cave of pain for 
him. 

1271
01:21:44,100 --> 01:21:50,900
Okay so I this was a moment that
I adored because they are 

1272
01:21:50,900 --> 01:21:54,600
finally together, right? 
They realized that they love 

1273
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:56,800
each other. 
They declared that they love 

1274
01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:02,900
each other and it's great. 
And he I think this this is like

1275
01:22:02,900 --> 01:22:08,500
a series of things that happens 
because she they go to the. 

1276
01:22:08,700 --> 01:22:11,900
Okay, here we go. 
He goes out of the palace to 

1277
01:22:11,900 --> 01:22:13,900
meet up with her for the Moon 
Festival where they're like, 

1278
01:22:13,900 --> 01:22:15,800
they have the engraved locks and
stuff. 

1279
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:19,000
They're going to do like the 
lock on the bridge and a whole 

1280
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:22,500
mess of people instigated by his
brother beg for him to 

1281
01:22:22,500 --> 01:22:27,000
reconsider being with her, that 
she's bad luck that she can't be

1282
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,000
trusted. 
She should be killed. 

1283
01:22:29,300 --> 01:22:33,100
And he declares in front of all 
of these people that he loves 

1284
01:22:33,100 --> 01:22:35,300
her. 
That she will be his wife and he

1285
01:22:35,300 --> 01:22:39,600
will love no other. 
And I'm like, I'm like, 

1286
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:41,200
Breathing hard over here in the 
corner. 

1287
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:46,600
It is such a great moment and he
has Mercy on them because you 

1288
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:50,100
know, if he was the old Moon 
Supreme with no emotions, he 

1289
01:22:50,100 --> 01:22:51,700
would have just slaughtered 
these people. 

1290
01:22:52,100 --> 01:22:54,400
Exactly. 
But he has Mercy on them, he's 

1291
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:57,800
like, watch what you say, I'm 
going to be with her, they have,

1292
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:02,600
he goes to actually, he takes, 
oh my God, there's even more 

1293
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:07,200
because he takes those bone 
devouring spikes as punishment 

1294
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:09,600
to it, to atone for like the 
ongoing. 

1295
01:23:09,700 --> 01:23:14,200
Going loss of 100,000 soldiers 
and for being with Orchid. 

1296
01:23:14,300 --> 01:23:19,800
So he does this then he goes to 
see her on the bridge which is a

1297
01:23:19,808 --> 01:23:23,100
beautiful moment, they declare 
their love on the bridge and 

1298
01:23:23,100 --> 01:23:26,600
they kiss under the full moon, 
then he collapses, it's this 

1299
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:30,100
whole thing. 
Then after this whole thing 

1300
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:34,200
where she realizes that his 
people are basically dead set 

1301
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:37,500
against her. 
She says she wants to go into 

1302
01:23:37,500 --> 01:23:42,000
this non abidance cave. 
To earn the honor of being the 

1303
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:45,100
moon Queen. 
And she tells him something. 

1304
01:23:45,100 --> 01:23:50,800
Super why's, she invokes her own
agency here and says, you know, 

1305
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,500
throughout the entire 
relationship, the entire thing 

1306
01:23:53,500 --> 01:23:58,000
has been on his terms, whether 
to kill her, to love her, to 

1307
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,600
keep her. 
It was all his decision, but now

1308
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,000
that they're about to become 
husband and wife like that 

1309
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,200
should change. 
He needs to respect her 

1310
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:08,900
decision. 
She says things like there's no 

1311
01:24:08,900 --> 01:24:12,200
hierarchy between Between a 
couple and no matter what we 

1312
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:14,900
have to bear it together. 
What happens? 

1313
01:24:14,900 --> 01:24:20,800
We have to bear it together and 
I like, all of this is amazing 

1314
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:24,800
to me that she recognizes like 
it's in the script. 

1315
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,500
She recognizes that it's been in
balanced. 

1316
01:24:27,500 --> 01:24:31,500
Their relationship has been in 
Balance this whole time and 

1317
01:24:32,100 --> 01:24:36,100
despite all that she realizes 
that she needs to just like he's

1318
01:24:36,100 --> 01:24:40,200
been doing on and off for her 
throughout the show kind of Take

1319
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:47,200
a hit like suffer for their love
to be, you know, bona fide and 

1320
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:50,300
she chooses to undergo that 
trial suffer pain. 

1321
01:24:51,100 --> 01:24:56,400
And she knows that in their 
culture, they value respect, and

1322
01:24:56,800 --> 01:25:01,000
they value and respect power. 
And she has to earn his her 

1323
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,000
place by his side fair and 
square. 

1324
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,200
No assistance from him, and I 
love it. 

1325
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:08,900
I, you know, of course, he 
doesn't want to let her do it. 

1326
01:25:08,900 --> 01:25:12,700
He won't subject her to torture.
She says, the entire 

1327
01:25:12,700 --> 01:25:18,100
relationship is, is basically 
come to this and she wants to 

1328
01:25:18,100 --> 01:25:21,600
prove herself to his people and 
it's she knows the significance 

1329
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,700
of the ACT. 
She wants control over this one 

1330
01:25:24,700 --> 01:25:29,800
thing and it's fantastic. 
I love this moment and of 

1331
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:32,200
course, I love the moment that 
he doesn't drink the tea. 

1332
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,700
I was just going to say that. 
Yeah. 

1333
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:37,900
What else do you want to say 
that? 

1334
01:25:37,900 --> 01:25:40,800
He cut? 
He goes through it with her, you

1335
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:45,200
know, he chooses to also go 
through the torture with her 

1336
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:49,000
couple goals for Real. 
Oh my God. 

1337
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:56,600
Hmm, sickness and in health. 
Yes, yes, everything everything 

1338
01:25:56,900 --> 01:26:01,400
I feel like if If she were 
giving birth. 

1339
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:05,200
Okay, what he would be feeling 
the same. 

1340
01:26:05,300 --> 01:26:10,100
Like he would feel the pain to 
write instead of being I don't 

1341
01:26:10,100 --> 01:26:14,100
like Mary I don't like he would 
be present which I really 

1342
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:19,700
respect about him the same way 
she was trying to gain respect 

1343
01:26:19,700 --> 01:26:23,900
of her people. 
I'm glad that he did not drink 

1344
01:26:23,900 --> 01:26:26,200
the tea and went through it with
her. 

1345
01:26:27,300 --> 01:26:34,600
It's yeah, it's hot in my God. 
It is, it's poetic I guess we 

1346
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:38,700
can segue into moments that 
broke you into little pieces. 

1347
01:26:41,100 --> 01:26:50,200
So, I like a lot of scenes here,
but I think that the one that 

1348
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:54,600
broke me into pieces. 
The worst was both of their 

1349
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,400
goodbyes want. 
The first one was orchids. 

1350
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:59,600
Goodbye. 
Why she sacrifices herself? 

1351
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:05,500
And I was a wreck, like, when 
she tells him not to cry, and to

1352
01:27:05,500 --> 01:27:08,700
smile and like, takes her little
bloody fingers and turns up the 

1353
01:27:08,700 --> 01:27:11,600
corners of his mouth, just like 
they had done before when she 

1354
01:27:11,608 --> 01:27:16,900
was teaching him how to smile. 
And like, That completely sent 

1355
01:27:16,900 --> 01:27:20,100
me. 
I don't know if you had anything

1356
01:27:20,100 --> 01:27:22,100
to say about that. 
Could by seeing the entire 

1357
01:27:22,100 --> 01:27:27,400
sequence was stunning, and 
well-edited well-acted. 

1358
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:34,400
I was telling you what his what,
his pain, his pain right angle, 

1359
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:39,900
it's anguish like you just and I
was watching talking about 

1360
01:27:39,900 --> 01:27:44,300
English, the behind-the-scenes 
footage of, he sent omong the 

1361
01:27:44,300 --> 01:27:47,000
scene and ice. 
I sent it to you because I was 

1362
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:52,300
like you got to see this and the
scene is really well. 

1363
01:27:52,300 --> 01:27:56,200
Acted he's giving it so much 
he's screaming and hollering and

1364
01:27:56,200 --> 01:28:00,700
like throwing himself on the 
ground and really a lot of 

1365
01:28:00,700 --> 01:28:05,400
physical kind of exertion hear 
from him from Dylan. 

1366
01:28:06,100 --> 01:28:10,800
And when the director yells cut,
he still on the ground. 

1367
01:28:11,700 --> 01:28:16,700
And he's like, inconsolable on 
the ground really tired looking 

1368
01:28:16,700 --> 01:28:19,300
and just he gave it so much 
Esther. 

1369
01:28:19,300 --> 01:28:23,500
You has to come over and kind of
knock him out of it. 

1370
01:28:23,500 --> 01:28:28,000
Get him back to a place and 
yeah, she's like you know, she 

1371
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,500
takes his hand, she's kind of 
like wiggling it and like, oh, 

1372
01:28:30,500 --> 01:28:33,000
come on. 
Like, you know, she's patting 

1373
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:38,800
him on the back and he finally 
sits up on the stage and she's 

1374
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:41,200
telling him like, you know, 
don't worry I'm alive. 

1375
01:28:41,300 --> 01:28:44,000
Live. 
I'm not dead and comforting him 

1376
01:28:44,300 --> 01:28:47,300
in such a Rahway because they 
just went through this whole 

1377
01:28:47,300 --> 01:28:52,500
scene in sequence, which is kind
of odd, you know, in regular 

1378
01:28:52,500 --> 01:28:55,500
filmmaking. 
And in the west, you have movies

1379
01:28:55,500 --> 01:28:58,000
and TV shows shot out of order. 
And then, of course, when they 

1380
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:02,400
edit it, they put it in order in
sequential order and she, I 

1381
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:05,100
mean, they did this completely 
in order from the time they're 

1382
01:29:05,100 --> 01:29:09,500
like crawling in on the sand 
dunes all the way up to he loses

1383
01:29:09,500 --> 01:29:10,400
her. 
It's done. 

1384
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:13,900
It was shot in. 
It looks like and so, I mean, it

1385
01:29:13,900 --> 01:29:17,900
was just a crescendo of emotions
and he looked devastated. 

1386
01:29:18,900 --> 01:29:21,700
You really? 
We pray actor. 

1387
01:29:21,700 --> 01:29:27,500
I was sold. 
I uh I don't know people. 

1388
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:31,000
Yeah. 
Des it's not cool. 

1389
01:29:32,300 --> 01:29:36,000
Yeah. 
Yeah something about his acting 

1390
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:37,400
which I thought was really sad 
was. 

1391
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:40,300
And one of the interviews he 
said, I'm really happy that 

1392
01:29:40,300 --> 01:29:44,100
people are so enamored with the 
show. 

1393
01:29:44,500 --> 01:29:47,400
I'm so happy that people are 
giving it positive feedback that

1394
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:50,300
they're loving the characters 
and everything because my 

1395
01:29:50,300 --> 01:29:53,600
previous, Obvious show or my 
previous work. 

1396
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:57,100
You know, I got a lot of 
criticism for it and I learned a

1397
01:29:57,108 --> 01:30:00,500
lot through, you know, reading 
the comments. 

1398
01:30:00,500 --> 01:30:03,700
He said something to that effect
that people had like shit on his

1399
01:30:03,700 --> 01:30:08,400
previous show and that he, it 
take took the notes and he's 

1400
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:10,600
improving like actively trying 
to improve. 

1401
01:30:11,100 --> 01:30:14,400
And I thought to myself, this is
really sad. 

1402
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:17,900
First of all that, this poor guy
who's like, just, you know, 

1403
01:30:17,900 --> 01:30:20,500
plucked from obscurity. 
I think he was like a fly. 

1404
01:30:20,700 --> 01:30:22,400
Attendant before he became 
famous. 

1405
01:30:23,100 --> 01:30:29,500
I kid you not? 
Yes and he he's learning but 

1406
01:30:29,500 --> 01:30:33,300
like trial by fire because you 
know, it's not like he took 

1407
01:30:33,300 --> 01:30:37,900
acting classes and now he's in a
professional actor and stuff 

1408
01:30:37,900 --> 01:30:42,800
like know, he was like a model 
like a, you know, nobody and now

1409
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:48,300
he's this great actor and I just
felt terrible because I feel 

1410
01:30:48,300 --> 01:30:50,300
like sometimes I contribute to 
that too. 

1411
01:30:50,300 --> 01:30:52,700
When I'm reviewing dramas on 
like this suck that can't 

1412
01:30:52,700 --> 01:30:56,700
believe like whatever and it's 
we just all have to like have a 

1413
01:30:56,708 --> 01:31:00,000
little Grace and remember that. 
These are real people and it 

1414
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:04,400
takes a village to make these 
dramas especially like a see 

1415
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:08,200
drama with all these crazy 
elements in it and special 

1416
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:10,600
effects and people that 
contribute behind the scenes and

1417
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:14,300
post-production and stuff, it's 
not just the people on screen 

1418
01:31:14,300 --> 01:31:19,700
that you see that make the drama
what it is and I just felt 

1419
01:31:19,700 --> 01:31:22,400
horrible when he he said that he
was like yeah you know my 

1420
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:24,700
previous drama wasn't 
well-received and stuff and I 

1421
01:31:24,700 --> 01:31:29,300
was like oh my God but all of 
also like which drama was that 

1422
01:31:29,300 --> 01:31:31,900
was that miss the dragon or was 
that the rational life? 

1423
01:31:33,100 --> 01:31:36,000
You know. 
Maybe it was mr. 

1424
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:38,900
Dragon, I think it might have 
been missed the dragon because 

1425
01:31:38,900 --> 01:31:41,800
I'm currently like an episode 
for something of it. 

1426
01:31:42,100 --> 01:31:46,500
And it's good, but I can sense 
that it's probably not going to 

1427
01:31:46,508 --> 01:31:51,000
maintain this momentum and maybe
the writing for won't live up 

1428
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:55,500
to, you know, whatever. 
So I can probably guess what it 

1429
01:31:55,500 --> 01:31:56,900
was Miss the dragon. 
Because you've watched the 

1430
01:31:56,900 --> 01:31:59,200
rational life was it, was it? 
Okay. 

1431
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:01,700
It was a good. 
It was okay. 

1432
01:32:02,100 --> 01:32:10,500
Ah, si si mind you mind you. 
I don't think that Chinese 

1433
01:32:10,500 --> 01:32:14,700
dramas, rom-com wrong romance. 
Has been doing it lately. 

1434
01:32:15,100 --> 01:32:20,600
Like, the last one I loved was 
love is sweet or something. 

1435
01:32:20,700 --> 01:32:22,400
Okay, that sounds familiar. 
Yes. 

1436
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:28,000
Where she when she cries, she 
gets an allergic reaction and 

1437
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:33,400
she okay, got you? 
The guy? 

1438
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:36,400
If you have not watched it, oh 
my God. 

1439
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:37,900
You got to. 
Okay. 

1440
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:41,000
So that's a good one. 
Okay, that's a really good one. 

1441
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:43,000
Love is sweet. 
Okay, yeah. 

1442
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:49,200
And then love designer. 
Okay, those two felt very much 

1443
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:51,500
contemporary romance, being 
done. 

1444
01:32:51,500 --> 01:32:55,700
Well, but the rational, life, I 
think you had too much work in 

1445
01:32:55,700 --> 01:32:57,900
it. 
Oh yes, there's a workplace 

1446
01:32:57,900 --> 01:32:59,600
drama. 
Yeah. 

1447
01:33:00,900 --> 01:33:03,100
Okay, okay. 
Yeah. 

1448
01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:07,800
Boring. 
Yeah I don't like I don't like 

1449
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:10,400
workplace dramas like personally
and I've said this in our. 

1450
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:13,200
What's wrong with secretary? 
Kim episode as well where I'm 

1451
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:14,700
like. 
This is not really my job every 

1452
01:33:14,700 --> 01:33:17,900
time they set something in the 
workplace and like, you know, 

1453
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:20,800
but that's just me. 
Personally, other people love 

1454
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:24,500
that. 
As far as others love between 

1455
01:33:24,500 --> 01:33:26,000
Foreign Devil scenes, that broke
me. 

1456
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:31,500
After she dies, he gets stuck in
a dream and he dreams that 

1457
01:33:31,500 --> 01:33:33,200
they've been married. 
Yeah, he dreams that they've 

1458
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:36,000
been married for 5. 
Hundred years and he's basically

1459
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:37,700
committing suicide. 
As he's trying to keep this 

1460
01:33:37,700 --> 01:33:41,900
dream alive Inception style and 
it's just as Grand Illusion 

1461
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:45,300
into. 
He thinks that she's alive and 

1462
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:49,900
the scenes of their married life
are so adorable and enticing and

1463
01:33:49,900 --> 01:33:53,500
it is so so sad. 
When he has to say goodbye and 

1464
01:33:53,500 --> 01:34:00,500
like implode the dream. 
I my God, like tears, real 

1465
01:34:00,500 --> 01:34:01,600
tears. 
I was sad. 

1466
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:05,800
I was so devastated when he To 
say goodbye to her in the dream.

1467
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:08,700
Yeah. 
Oh my God. 

1468
01:34:08,700 --> 01:34:16,100
Yeah, but then, oh my God. 
I live and, and killing yourself

1469
01:34:16,100 --> 01:34:19,700
in the process. 
Like you could just tell how 

1470
01:34:19,700 --> 01:34:23,200
much he had grown to love 
Orchid. 

1471
01:34:23,300 --> 01:34:25,200
Mmm. 
And trying to do that. 

1472
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:31,000
Trying to keep that, you know, 
Vision alive. 

1473
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:34,300
And yes, it was cute. 
I agree with you was very Cute. 

1474
01:34:34,300 --> 01:34:36,800
But it was also very 
heartbreaking for the people in 

1475
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:41,000
the outside. 
Look at it looking in at him 

1476
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:43,400
doing this, hmm. 
Even Chun? 

1477
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:46,000
Ha is like yo, bro. 
Like yeah. 

1478
01:34:46,300 --> 01:34:48,200
What's going on? 
Comes in and he's like, you got 

1479
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:50,500
to stop this, you're killing 
yourself. 

1480
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:52,800
Your people need you. 
And there's a possibility. 

1481
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:54,800
We can bring her back. 
You need to get out of this. 

1482
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:56,800
You can't just kill yourself 
over this. 

1483
01:34:57,400 --> 01:35:02,700
And oh my God, I It was so much 
to see him say goodbye to her 

1484
01:35:02,700 --> 01:35:05,200
and she's like, I'm alive, I'm 
right here, like she's sick. 

1485
01:35:07,500 --> 01:35:13,500
It was a lot scenes that broke 
me, he, you know, they go 

1486
01:35:13,500 --> 01:35:16,400
through the motions of saving 
her, the extractor Little 

1487
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:18,500
Spirit. 
They put it, it turns into a 

1488
01:35:18,500 --> 01:35:24,000
seed, then he starts taking care
of her all over again as a seed 

1489
01:35:24,500 --> 01:35:28,200
and the same that you repeating 
the same thing, he's giving her 

1490
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:32,400
Sunshine. 
He's collecting morning, do for 

1491
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:37,700
her, and is talking to her and 
really kind of of making it seem

1492
01:35:37,700 --> 01:35:41,300
like she is, as if she's 
listening, she's a plant mind, 

1493
01:35:41,300 --> 01:35:44,500
you, but he's talking to her, 
he's like, I miss you so much. 

1494
01:35:44,500 --> 01:35:48,700
I like, you know, just having 
conversations with this plant 

1495
01:35:48,700 --> 01:35:53,700
and it's adorable. 
She finally turns back into 

1496
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:59,600
human form and she or top she 
doesn't remember Emma, you see 

1497
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:02,700
her talking with the great 
Turtle before she turns back 

1498
01:36:02,700 --> 01:36:06,100
into her human form and she's 
like, yeah, I understand that. 

1499
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:09,000
That, you know, I have this 
Grand purpose and I can't 

1500
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:16,100
succumb to my feelings and 
indulge in love and the great 

1501
01:36:16,100 --> 01:36:17,700
Turtles. 
Like I'm so glad you understand 

1502
01:36:17,700 --> 01:36:19,900
this, you got a great purpose, 
whatever, and sends her back, 

1503
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:24,900
sends her packing to shine that 
town that she's from And oh my 

1504
01:36:24,900 --> 01:36:27,600
god, when she turns around and 
she doesn't recognize him. 

1505
01:36:31,100 --> 01:36:33,100
It was like the air just got 
sucked out of the room. 

1506
01:36:33,100 --> 01:36:35,400
You know what I'm saying? 
And I expected it to like, 

1507
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:40,200
obviously she just went through 
this great transformation. 

1508
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:43,900
She's now the goddess and I 
fully expected her to have 

1509
01:36:43,900 --> 01:36:48,200
amnesia or just to forget him 
and their love. 

1510
01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:50,600
And her time is Orchid and but 
when it really happen, when it 

1511
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:56,700
finally happens on screen, I was
like, no is brutal. 

1512
01:36:56,700 --> 01:36:58,600
It was brutal. 
And then him just sticking 

1513
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:01,100
around. 
And and like I said before 

1514
01:37:01,100 --> 01:37:03,500
humbling himself. 
What did you think of him? 

1515
01:37:03,700 --> 01:37:06,800
Just saying, like, I want to 
serve you, I want to be your 

1516
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:14,500
servant and stuff and what it 
was very beautiful because 

1517
01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:17,800
here's Stephen. 
Who doesn't he built or Arbiter 

1518
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:22,900
Hall again? 
Exactly, again again. 

1519
01:37:22,900 --> 01:37:26,600
And she's walking through like 
she don't remember nothing, you 

1520
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:28,600
know? 
Damn well she knows. 

1521
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:30,400
I can think that have it. 
Yes. 

1522
01:37:30,700 --> 01:37:33,900
She's like, I love this place 
and I'm like, no fucking shit 

1523
01:37:33,900 --> 01:37:40,400
seat. 
And he's like, I just want to be

1524
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:44,400
near you. 
I just want to serve you. 

1525
01:37:44,500 --> 01:37:49,200
I'll just uh that was such a 
beautiful. 

1526
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:56,200
String of words and moments, 
like I know you don't remember 

1527
01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:59,700
me. 
Just just let me hang around and

1528
01:37:59,700 --> 01:38:02,200
it's so torturous to him. 
Yes. 

1529
01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:04,400
Yes. 
Want to do that. 

1530
01:38:04,500 --> 01:38:06,900
Yeah. 
Just like now I have faith. 

1531
01:38:06,900 --> 01:38:08,900
I think I can make her. 
Remember me? 

1532
01:38:08,900 --> 01:38:12,300
And I'm just, yeah, he's 
repeating all these things that 

1533
01:38:12,300 --> 01:38:15,700
they had done and trying to like
try to jog her memory. 

1534
01:38:16,700 --> 01:38:19,500
It's brutal when he realizes 
that she's not orchid. 

1535
01:38:20,300 --> 01:38:23,100
Yeah. 
Who knows to her for going 

1536
01:38:23,100 --> 01:38:28,400
through all those memories with 
him and still pretending like 

1537
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:31,500
she can't remember. 
Yeah, she was good at that. 

1538
01:38:31,500 --> 01:38:34,200
She was like I there was no love
in her eyes, you know what I'm 

1539
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:35,600
saying? 
Yeah. 

1540
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:37,000
There was nothing. 
Yeah. 

1541
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:41,100
And when she woke up early and 
she's telling him like you don't

1542
01:38:41,100 --> 01:38:42,200
work. 
Wake up early. 

1543
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:47,600
I'm like girl, really is this 
who we are. 

1544
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:50,100
She was like I was meditating 
but in front of the Sun. 

1545
01:38:50,300 --> 01:38:51,700
Rise. 
And I said I was like, 

1546
01:38:51,700 --> 01:38:54,300
meditating. 
Oh my gosh night and day 

1547
01:38:54,300 --> 01:38:59,600
difference between her and 
Orchid, but he finally decides 

1548
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:02,600
to leave. 
Yes. 

1549
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:09,800
Oh my God. 
That was that was Accepting what

1550
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:17,400
it is, now one but also like I I
think I've done all I could I 

1551
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:24,300
love myself, too. 
It's time to let go, mmm, Brad. 

1552
01:39:24,300 --> 01:39:26,700
It's really Brave. 
It's very brave. 

1553
01:39:26,700 --> 01:39:29,900
And it's really hard to get to 
that moment where you're like, 

1554
01:39:29,900 --> 01:39:33,600
I've given it my all. 
But now, I choose me and I 

1555
01:39:33,608 --> 01:39:36,300
choose my people, and my 
response and all those other 

1556
01:39:36,300 --> 01:39:42,800
things and I'm To go and then 
she's like, she puts her hands 

1557
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:58,400
on his Linux and smile smile. 
And I'm like you bitch, what are

1558
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:01,800
you doing? 
She's giving him exactly. 

1559
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:03,600
You're giving him hope number 
one. 

1560
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:10,000
Number two, you clearly had 
remember Why couldn't you talk 

1561
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:13,000
to him? 
And the communication lack of 

1562
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:14,000
communication. 
There's a stick. 

1563
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:17,300
Why she cut, she cut him off. 
So dirty when she came back as 

1564
01:40:17,300 --> 01:40:21,200
the God because she was talking 
all this shit about, oh I'm 

1565
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:24,800
gonna basically commit suicide 
to stop this apocalypse from 

1566
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:28,900
happening and stop this evil 
monster cloud from taking over 

1567
01:40:28,900 --> 01:40:31,900
and that's her Destiny. 
All the goddesses before her 

1568
01:40:31,900 --> 01:40:35,300
have done the same thing, 
they're very self-sacrificing. 

1569
01:40:35,300 --> 01:40:44,300
And whatever. but my issue with 
her was D CQ f d. 

1570
01:40:44,300 --> 01:40:45,700
F. 
G c d. 

1571
01:40:45,700 --> 01:40:47,800
Excuse me. 
Sorry d. 

1572
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:54,400
Fq c was doing the same thing in
the beginning with his Hellfire,

1573
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:57,700
right? 
And being Moon supreme, but he 

1574
01:40:57,700 --> 01:41:05,000
found a way to work with her to 
still, you know, save his people

1575
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:10,200
and like I felt like he was more
open to finding another path. 

1576
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:15,400
Well back. 
Well that's the thing is that he

1577
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:21,100
was at first very much trying to
make peace with his Destiny and 

1578
01:41:21,100 --> 01:41:23,100
saving the moon tribe and then 
being with her. 

1579
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:26,600
But because of all these 
machinations, he was basically 

1580
01:41:26,900 --> 01:41:31,600
choosing his people at the end 
and he was trying his best to 

1581
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:34,200
save her. 
And the way to save her was 

1582
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:36,900
like, we got to get this 
bracelet off of her. 

1583
01:41:36,900 --> 01:41:40,200
Now that she loves me 
unconditionally, the bracelet is

1584
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:42,400
basically, Ali, a death 
sentence, if you take it off of 

1585
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:44,800
her, but it's got evil chi in 
it. 

1586
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:48,500
So it's killing her from the 
inside out and sucking up on all

1587
01:41:48,500 --> 01:41:51,700
of her goddess energy. 
And like, there was a lot of 

1588
01:41:51,708 --> 01:41:54,900
things that he was trying to 
make happen, which was bring 

1589
01:41:54,900 --> 01:41:58,300
back the hundred thousand people
that were frozen in time for 

1590
01:41:58,300 --> 01:42:02,500
30,000 years and also save her 
life and he was like, the best 

1591
01:42:02,500 --> 01:42:05,600
way to get that bracelet off of 
her, is to kill her love for me.

1592
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:09,300
So he was like, being really 
mean to her and like, saying 

1593
01:42:09,300 --> 01:42:12,500
really crazy. 
Lines to her that were 

1594
01:42:12,500 --> 01:42:17,400
heart-wrenching, and okay, of 
course, she never stopped loving

1595
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:18,600
him. 
So like there was no way to take

1596
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:23,300
the bracelet off. 
So then how can he unleash these

1597
01:42:23,300 --> 01:42:28,500
hundred thousand people without 
lady TD's spirit and all this 

1598
01:42:28,500 --> 01:42:32,400
stuff to break this curse that 
she put on this battlefield. 

1599
01:42:32,500 --> 01:42:34,900
So, I was like, all of these 
things taken together, like, he 

1600
01:42:34,900 --> 01:42:38,500
basically did the best that he 
could because he was trying to 

1601
01:42:38,500 --> 01:42:42,300
save her, but then trying to 
say, His people and ultimately, 

1602
01:42:42,300 --> 01:42:45,000
it felt like he chose his 
people. 

1603
01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:47,900
I think as the audience you're 
thinking, oh he chose his people

1604
01:42:47,900 --> 01:42:52,000
because he's being so 
insufferable to her and doing 

1605
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:57,200
this 180 imprisoning her again 
and being kind of like his old 

1606
01:42:57,200 --> 01:43:00,500
self. 
Yeah, versus the Lovestruck Moon

1607
01:43:00,500 --> 01:43:02,800
Supreme who is very in touch 
with his feelings. 

1608
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:09,500
He was trying to, you know, make
her unloved him and it wasn't 

1609
01:43:09,500 --> 01:43:14,100
working. 
Yeah, it was a lot but she 

1610
01:43:14,100 --> 01:43:18,100
doesn't go so far. 
Well, I should say she does go 

1611
01:43:18,100 --> 01:43:21,700
so far as the goddess because 
she is trying to like, shut down

1612
01:43:21,700 --> 01:43:26,200
his feelings for her not Inland 
in an overt way, like, you know,

1613
01:43:26,500 --> 01:43:29,300
talking to him in a certain way 
or being mean to him 

1614
01:43:29,300 --> 01:43:31,900
necessarily. 
But she was, like, let's choose 

1615
01:43:31,900 --> 01:43:35,200
the path of least resistance. 
I just don't remember, I don't 

1616
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:39,900
have, I'm not Orchid, you know? 
Yeah, so I think it she chose a 

1617
01:43:39,900 --> 01:43:43,400
little bit more. 
Sifl route to try and get him to

1618
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:45,800
go away and maybe stop loving 
her and move on. 

1619
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:51,400
But man, so it culminates into 
this bridge seen they have like 

1620
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:55,000
this bridge seen represe where 
he takes her there to hang the 

1621
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:58,000
locks he's like do me this one 
last favor, they go to the 

1622
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:00,200
bridge where they declare their 
love for each other. 

1623
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:05,100
And he admits that Orchid is 
gone that the goddess xishan is 

1624
01:44:05,100 --> 01:44:10,100
not her and it's this last bit 
of Hope here because he wants to

1625
01:44:10,100 --> 01:44:16,100
hang this lock with her name on 
it, because if you put the lock 

1626
01:44:16,100 --> 01:44:18,900
on the bridge, it means they'll 
be together forever. 

1627
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:22,100
And so it's like this latch the 
last ditch effort that's like 

1628
01:44:22,100 --> 01:44:26,700
superstitious effort, but she is
not having it. 

1629
01:44:26,700 --> 01:44:30,700
She starts walking away and he 
says he starts crying. 

1630
01:44:30,700 --> 01:44:33,700
He's just crying on this bridge 
and he says I just want her to 

1631
01:44:33,700 --> 01:44:39,300
know that I'm not bad anymore. 
And then I said, all these 

1632
01:44:39,300 --> 01:44:41,400
terrible things to her to try 
and get her to not love me 

1633
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:45,400
anymore because of this bracelet
and the, you know, the magic of 

1634
01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:49,600
the bracelet. 
It was killing her and she 

1635
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:53,200
listens on to hint at the 
revealing this and also saying, 

1636
01:44:53,200 --> 01:44:55,000
like, you know, I'm just I'm not
bad anymore. 

1637
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:59,300
I'm not that person I was and 
I'm he's like I want to tell all

1638
01:44:59,300 --> 01:45:02,800
these things and she's there 
she's listening to him break 

1639
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:08,100
down and still decides. 
To walk away and submit her 

1640
01:45:08,100 --> 01:45:10,600
higher calling in the that the 
fate of the world is in her 

1641
01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:14,100
hands and so she chooses the 
world over him. 

1642
01:45:15,900 --> 01:45:22,800
And I'll it's heartbreaking. 
It is Because she loves him. 

1643
01:45:22,900 --> 01:45:28,000
She's crying. 
She remembers and still and 

1644
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:31,500
still. 
Oh man. 

1645
01:45:31,500 --> 01:45:33,600
Going back to Esther low really 
fast. 

1646
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:36,500
I wanted to talk about since 
some of the behind-the-scenes 

1647
01:45:36,500 --> 01:45:39,900
footage. 
Dylan was talking about how she 

1648
01:45:39,900 --> 01:45:44,700
was so integral to producing 
such great chemistry, you know, 

1649
01:45:44,700 --> 01:45:49,600
and creating these scenes where 
they might have been kind of 

1650
01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:53,400
referencing or paying homage to 
They're see dramas because she's

1651
01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:57,900
an avid see drama Watcher and 
she would read the script and 

1652
01:45:57,900 --> 01:46:00,900
come in and be like, Oh yeah, 
this reminded me of this and 

1653
01:46:00,900 --> 01:46:05,400
maybe we should try this and 
bringing ideas to the table and,

1654
01:46:05,500 --> 01:46:08,100
you know, pulling the things up 
on her phone and showing Dylan 

1655
01:46:08,100 --> 01:46:10,600
and be like, well that's try 
this, or they did this. 

1656
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:14,500
Maybe we could try this and 
being very proactive about 

1657
01:46:14,500 --> 01:46:18,700
setting up their scenes together
and it wasn't just the director 

1658
01:46:18,700 --> 01:46:22,800
who was kind of fostering. 
They're their chemistry and 

1659
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:25,800
their scenes. 
So I really wanted to just say 

1660
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:30,800
that about Esther that she, I 
think the importance of her and 

1661
01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:34,300
her creative contributions. 
Can't be understated because 

1662
01:46:34,300 --> 01:46:35,900
we're talking about, great 
chemistry. 

1663
01:46:35,900 --> 01:46:37,800
We're talking about great spoon 
or these scenes. 

1664
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:42,600
It's kind of endless for us, but
Esther was, you know, she's one 

1665
01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:44,200
of us. 
She's time watching seizure 

1666
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:49,100
almost all the time, and she 
recognizes the kind of things 

1667
01:46:49,100 --> 01:46:51,300
that would make sense for the 
viewer. 

1668
01:46:51,500 --> 01:46:53,500
Hours and what we would 
appreciate because she is a 

1669
01:46:53,508 --> 01:46:56,500
viewer. 
So yeah, I wanted to say that. 

1670
01:46:56,500 --> 01:46:59,300
I appreciate her love for the 
craft for sure. 

1671
01:46:59,300 --> 01:47:04,900
I think the only other couple 
that I had heard about this was 

1672
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:11,000
Well, actually I've heard a lot,
he hadn't been and so you Jin 

1673
01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:14,300
Joo. 
Ha ha shows. 

1674
01:47:14,300 --> 01:47:19,300
And they did that for crash. 
Landing on you and Alchemy of 

1675
01:47:19,308 --> 01:47:25,200
souls, because they were such a 
young crowd, they've definitely 

1676
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:30,700
got a chance to encourage each 
other to do things differently 

1677
01:47:30,700 --> 01:47:33,300
and try this instead and things 
like that. 

1678
01:47:33,300 --> 01:47:36,000
And he's some ghee. 
Does that quite a bit too? 

1679
01:47:36,100 --> 01:47:42,200
To so Mmm. 
Yeah, I think I love it when You

1680
01:47:42,200 --> 01:47:46,600
see people really enjoying a 
crack, Mmm. 

1681
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:49,800
Yeah. 
Thinking about different ways to

1682
01:47:50,200 --> 01:47:54,200
bring the plot alive and and 
yeah, it's beautiful. 

1683
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:57,800
Mmm. 
Okay, so we're now in the 

1684
01:47:57,800 --> 01:48:02,600
endgame episodes where he 
decides d, fq c decides to 

1685
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:05,300
sacrifice himself and there's 
the second goodbye that I 

1686
01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:09,200
referenced earlier. 
I could not function. 

1687
01:48:11,100 --> 01:48:13,600
I just couldn't because it was 
like their wedding day. 

1688
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:17,600
She was about to get married to 
Chung and again, Chung Hong come

1689
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:21,400
in, come in and clutch, because 
he was like, I'm not happy about

1690
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:25,800
her marrying me, even though I 
love her and I do want her to 

1691
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:30,500
marry me. 
It's not something that I am. 

1692
01:48:30,500 --> 01:48:34,300
Happy about that. 
I am gloating about because she 

1693
01:48:34,300 --> 01:48:37,100
doesn't, she doesn't love me. 
She loves you. 

1694
01:48:37,100 --> 01:48:39,800
And what's worse is to, she 
doesn't realize she loves you. 

1695
01:48:40,700 --> 01:48:43,500
And she doesn't remember her 
time as Orchid. 

1696
01:48:43,500 --> 01:48:48,600
Like, I want Orchid back and 
he's very Level-headed about it,

1697
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:51,400
you know, again at this point 
you kind of expecting to see 

1698
01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:55,700
drama for him to be gloating for
him to be happy that he gets the

1699
01:48:55,708 --> 01:49:00,200
girl, but it's not on his terms.
It's not, it's out of like 

1700
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:03,900
necessity because of this whole 
like destiny that they have over

1701
01:49:03,900 --> 01:49:06,500
their relationship. 
She needs to marry him to like a

1702
01:49:06,500 --> 01:49:08,400
locker goddess powers or 
whatever the fuck. 

1703
01:49:08,700 --> 01:49:13,300
So the wedding gets like 
interrupted because DF, you see 

1704
01:49:13,300 --> 01:49:17,100
is in the middle of confronting 
this, like evil. 

1705
01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:21,900
Loud, what is it 10 tension or 
Tashan or something? 

1706
01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:24,200
Forget the name of the demon 
dashing. 

1707
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:28,700
Yeah, so she ends up on the 
battlefield with all of the 

1708
01:49:28,708 --> 01:49:32,100
fairy kingdom to try and stop 
dfq. 

1709
01:49:32,100 --> 01:49:35,100
See who, you know, he was 
initially trying to kill the 

1710
01:49:35,100 --> 01:49:40,100
thing using, whatever is left of
her spirit and powers that is 

1711
01:49:40,100 --> 01:49:44,900
like imprinted in his heart, 
which God inside him from like 

1712
01:49:45,300 --> 01:49:48,800
their first encounter, fine. 
So much symbolism there. 

1713
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:54,400
But okay. 
So then he I think the demon 

1714
01:49:54,400 --> 01:49:56,900
like distracts him with like, 
saying like, I don't know what 

1715
01:49:56,900 --> 01:49:59,800
he said, I can't remember what 
it was but it's an Avenue. 

1716
01:50:00,700 --> 01:50:06,000
Yeah, I was trying to find 
cracks in his resolve. 

1717
01:50:06,100 --> 01:50:10,400
Yes him back. 
Slide and say yo I can give you 

1718
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:12,300
what you want. 
Uh-huh. 

1719
01:50:12,500 --> 01:50:18,800
Sort of an Enticer or in Mirror 
into The deepest desires? 

1720
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:21,500
Yes, that's what he was trying 
to get. 

1721
01:50:21,500 --> 01:50:23,400
Yes. 
So he finally did find a little 

1722
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:28,100
chink in his resolve and that's 
when he entered him and looked 

1723
01:50:28,100 --> 01:50:31,200
possessed his body. 
They like became one and it was 

1724
01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:33,900
this whole thing, he started, I 
mean he was back with the blue, 

1725
01:50:34,100 --> 01:50:39,100
the white hair and like hovering
over the valley and it was like 

1726
01:50:39,100 --> 01:50:42,800
really cool to see. 
But yeah, she's back on the 

1727
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:49,400
battlefield wedding is like 
interrupted and She Braves this 

1728
01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:52,700
Maelstrom to get to him. 
There's this epic mid-air kiss 

1729
01:50:52,700 --> 01:50:57,200
when she finally gets to him and
she enters his like figurative, 

1730
01:50:57,200 --> 01:51:00,400
heart to where she sees what's 
left of him. 

1731
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:05,500
His tree by his heart tree and 
he starts begging her to, to 

1732
01:51:05,500 --> 01:51:11,600
kill him to let him go and she 
won't and like the entire scene 

1733
01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:14,800
is so well done because, you 
know, on the outside, they're 

1734
01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:19,200
still in an Embrace or so. 
Kissing and like all of a 

1735
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:23,000
sudden, she has activated her 
goddess Powers, she's like 

1736
01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:28,800
completely consumed in green 
like Elemental like energy or 

1737
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:32,300
whatever the hell and then he 
suddenly starts is able to use 

1738
01:51:32,300 --> 01:51:36,400
glazed fire and the whole like 
the Heavenly realm is like, oh 

1739
01:51:36,407 --> 01:51:40,600
my God, this is like an ancient 
method that's been lost to time 

1740
01:51:40,600 --> 01:51:45,100
and like only people with great 
love and compassion can Master 

1741
01:51:45,100 --> 01:51:47,000
it and so, you know, they're 
real. 

1742
01:51:47,100 --> 01:51:50,000
Wreathed in like glazed fire and
the green from her powers and 

1743
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:54,200
it's beautiful beautiful scene. 
And then inside of his, you 

1744
01:51:54,200 --> 01:51:58,700
know, heart or mind, they're 
having this last conversation. 

1745
01:52:00,200 --> 01:52:04,400
And she, you know, she finally 
does, she like just shoots him 

1746
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:09,500
with her powers and they start 
rising up. 

1747
01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:14,000
They start like rising up into 
the celestial Galactic space. 

1748
01:52:15,300 --> 01:52:19,400
And it's gorgeous and then oh my
God then he like kind of comes 

1749
01:52:19,400 --> 01:52:24,100
to a little bit and like says 
goodbye and and then 

1750
01:52:24,100 --> 01:52:26,600
disintegrates he's just 
disintegrates right in her arms.

1751
01:52:30,300 --> 01:52:34,700
I, I was devastated. 
I was forlorn. 

1752
01:52:35,500 --> 01:52:38,200
I could not be comforted at this
point. 

1753
01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:41,200
I don't know about you guys, 
listening, but this was another 

1754
01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:45,200
like moment where it cut me to 
pieces and all, that's all 

1755
01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:47,800
that's left. 
Is like this little, what is it?

1756
01:52:48,300 --> 01:52:52,100
That little piece that he had 
given her write a little piece 

1757
01:52:52,100 --> 01:52:55,800
of his heart basically made from
his blood or something? 

1758
01:52:55,900 --> 01:52:59,100
I don't know. 
Little Memento leftover, she 

1759
01:52:59,100 --> 01:53:03,600
takes it and I I love how she's 
talking with the brother later 

1760
01:53:03,600 --> 01:53:06,600
in the brothers. 
Like she asked the brother, do 

1761
01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:10,700
you believe in miracles and the 
bows like I don't know. 

1762
01:53:11,900 --> 01:53:14,600
I don't know. 
And she's like, well and she 

1763
01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:18,400
hangs it up and her little 
garden Arbiter Hall and, you 

1764
01:53:18,400 --> 01:53:21,600
know, feeds it her little spirit
and she takes care of it. 

1765
01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:26,700
And then all the, you know, he 
comes back, I think she had her 

1766
01:53:26,700 --> 01:53:37,900
back to to him and he's like, 
yes, that's just like the tears 

1767
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:41,300
tears of joy and then they just 
end it there and like we're 

1768
01:53:41,300 --> 01:53:44,300
left. 
Process this show and like, the 

1769
01:53:44,300 --> 01:53:47,800
meaning of life. 
And oh, my God, yes. 

1770
01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:51,700
So symbolism and this show talk 
to me. 

1771
01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:54,800
Talk to that. 
Gave me why even like the tree 

1772
01:53:54,800 --> 01:54:00,600
inside and caring for the tree 
and nurturing? 

1773
01:54:00,600 --> 01:54:06,400
Its that was such a beautiful 
way of putting up growing up and

1774
01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:10,900
learning your emotions and how 
the leaves just represents the 

1775
01:54:10,900 --> 01:54:14,100
differences. 
Emotions that we go through and 

1776
01:54:14,100 --> 01:54:18,800
mmm. 
And then there was, you know, 

1777
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:23,500
Hellfire and glazed fire. 
Yeah, glaze fire. 

1778
01:54:23,500 --> 01:54:28,900
You have to lose all your 
emotions to be able to get that 

1779
01:54:28,900 --> 01:54:30,400
in the beginning. 
Mmm. 

1780
01:54:31,100 --> 01:54:34,900
And he lost all his emotions to 
be the strongest person in the 

1781
01:54:34,900 --> 01:54:40,900
world, but on the other side 
with so much emotion, you're 

1782
01:54:40,900 --> 01:54:45,600
able Master glaze fire and no 
one is able to do that. 

1783
01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:49,300
And only the people who have 
reached like the highest level. 

1784
01:54:49,300 --> 01:54:50,300
Yeah. 
Okay. 

1785
01:54:50,700 --> 01:54:53,900
And then of course it's ironic. 
Exactly. 

1786
01:54:53,900 --> 01:54:55,400
Yes. 
And it's ironic because it's 

1787
01:54:55,400 --> 01:54:59,900
like the most brutal Moon 
Supreme, dude, that the 

1788
01:55:01,300 --> 01:55:05,800
archetype of villain of the show
is the one who can summon glazed

1789
01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:07,700
fire. 
I mean, it's beautiful, it's 

1790
01:55:07,700 --> 01:55:11,700
beautiful and I think that one 
last thing that we had talked 

1791
01:55:11,700 --> 01:55:16,400
about before was the villain 
wrong how and his relationship 

1792
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:23,100
with Lady TD and how they are 
kind of, what's the word? 

1793
01:55:23,100 --> 01:55:25,400
They're like two halves of the 
same coin, like rhonchi landlady

1794
01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:31,000
Chidi on one side and then you 
have Orchid or the goddess and 

1795
01:55:31,100 --> 01:55:36,200
moon Supreme dfq see, on the 
other side because they both are

1796
01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:41,500
trying to go against fate or 
destiny to save. 

1797
01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:44,300
Another person to save their 
partner to save their Master 

1798
01:55:44,300 --> 01:55:48,200
whatever and the difference 
between wrong. 

1799
01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:55,100
Holly TD, + d fq c an orchid. 
Is that the they don't love each

1800
01:55:55,100 --> 01:55:57,000
other, like they love each 
other, they care for each other,

1801
01:55:57,000 --> 01:56:00,600
but they don't love each other 
wrong, how and Lady. 

1802
01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:05,300
TD don't, but Orchid and DF. 
You see, do they have this 

1803
01:56:05,300 --> 01:56:10,200
all-consuming love and one thing
that the Arbiter, the real 

1804
01:56:10,200 --> 01:56:14,800
Arbiter said, Said was that love
Falls outside of Fate which is 

1805
01:56:14,800 --> 01:56:17,100
why you have these Destiny 
leaves that are so like 

1806
01:56:17,100 --> 01:56:20,500
Buckwild. 
And that's what Orchid was 

1807
01:56:20,500 --> 01:56:22,800
saying. 
She was like, yo why are these 

1808
01:56:22,800 --> 01:56:23,700
stories? 
So wild? 

1809
01:56:23,700 --> 01:56:25,900
Like these things are happening.
These terrible things are 

1810
01:56:25,900 --> 01:56:28,700
happening. 
And these people like go through

1811
01:56:28,700 --> 01:56:32,800
it and she's like, well it's not
really part of Fates plan, but 

1812
01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:36,300
love intervenes, love Falls 
outside of fate and that's why 

1813
01:56:36,300 --> 01:56:40,400
you have like this craziness 
happening and I loved how I 

1814
01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:45,400
think you mentioned this How the
efficacy was the only person who

1815
01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:48,300
could change. 
Her Destiny. 

1816
01:56:48,700 --> 01:56:52,400
Yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes. 
Because that's what. 

1817
01:56:53,800 --> 01:56:57,300
Q. 
Not Cupid, our Master. 

1818
01:56:58,100 --> 01:57:03,100
Our kids Master said like, yeah.
And who can save her? 

1819
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:07,400
You are the only one who can 
change her Destiny and he didn't

1820
01:57:07,400 --> 01:57:09,600
understand it. 
It looked like he didn't 

1821
01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:11,900
understand it when she says 
first said it. 

1822
01:57:12,300 --> 01:57:16,500
But then he definitely 
understood it towards the end 

1823
01:57:16,500 --> 01:57:20,600
when she was getting married, 
you know, following her path. 

1824
01:57:21,700 --> 01:57:28,200
And he's like, oh, okay so yeah 
in the end she's going to die. 

1825
01:57:28,600 --> 01:57:32,300
Mmm, I'm gonna die in her stead 
and that's. 

1826
01:57:32,900 --> 01:57:36,400
Yeah, I mean I thought idea, I 
would love for both of those 

1827
01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:40,000
live and right. 
That's what we get in the end. 

1828
01:57:40,100 --> 01:57:46,600
But yeah, I was pleasantly 
surprised by the end when we had

1829
01:57:46,600 --> 01:57:53,400
a happy ending and I'm so used 
to Lofts at the end of my 

1830
01:57:53,400 --> 01:57:58,700
wishes. 
Yes so it was just as very 

1831
01:57:58,700 --> 01:58:00,900
happy. 
I was very happy as well. 

1832
01:58:01,200 --> 01:58:04,100
I was very happy. 
They got a happy ending last 

1833
01:58:04,100 --> 01:58:07,300
thing I'll say about wrong. 
How and Lady TD was that I 

1834
01:58:07,300 --> 01:58:11,000
thought their story was really 
compelling and I also found that

1835
01:58:11,000 --> 01:58:15,300
interesting that the writers 
felt that they needed to redeem 

1836
01:58:15,300 --> 01:58:20,400
wrong hell and that he was 
actually redeemable sort of in 

1837
01:58:20,400 --> 01:58:24,200
the end. 
And you kind of end up feeling 

1838
01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:26,700
badly for him. 
And for, especially for lady 

1839
01:58:26,700 --> 01:58:30,100
cheesy, when she is finally 
resurrected, and she has all of 

1840
01:58:30,100 --> 01:58:34,500
these she's tortured basically 
by the evil Chi. 

1841
01:58:34,500 --> 01:58:40,400
And by what he's done and how he
brought her back, and the way 

1842
01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:43,900
she begs to, for him to kill her
because she's just, she's not 

1843
01:58:43,900 --> 01:58:51,800
the same and he realizes that he
got got By the evil, you know, 

1844
01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:57,000
cloud teshan or something he 
realizes that he's been tricked.

1845
01:58:57,500 --> 01:59:01,900
But you know, I I don't have a 
pity for him. 

1846
01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:05,300
You don't have I see. 
No, I remember seeing him in 

1847
01:59:05,300 --> 01:59:07,100
episode 7. 
I was like this guy's the bad 

1848
01:59:07,100 --> 01:59:12,200
guy because I don't think that 
he was even a good friend to 

1849
01:59:12,200 --> 01:59:16,000
tell him. 
Because technically, okay, ciao 

1850
01:59:16,100 --> 01:59:20,300
was looking for chitti. 
Oh yes, here's yeah. 

1851
01:59:20,300 --> 01:59:24,800
And I'm and he knew where she 
was and he never said anything, 

1852
01:59:25,300 --> 01:59:29,500
so yeah, I don't think he was a 
good person to begin Camp, base 

1853
01:59:29,500 --> 01:59:31,200
of friendship. 
Ally. 

1854
01:59:31,700 --> 01:59:35,500
And that's exactly what wrong. 
How did even though he was very 

1855
01:59:35,500 --> 01:59:40,400
close to, you know, try the 
second God of War tongue hung, 

1856
01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:45,800
he was still withholding so much
of what made him him, you know, 

1857
01:59:45,900 --> 01:59:49,700
and made him unique what his 
story was and how he was. 

1858
01:59:49,700 --> 01:59:59,100
So now I don't think maybe 
devastate her, but reft bereft. 

1859
01:59:59,100 --> 02:00:02,000
Yeah. 
After lady, HED died. 

1860
02:00:02,000 --> 02:00:05,100
And how he, you know, had this 
grand plan to bring her back. 

1861
02:00:05,400 --> 02:00:09,200
All of this was not part of 
their 10,000-year relationship. 

1862
02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:13,900
I will say that. 
I thought that they had a little

1863
02:00:13,900 --> 02:00:19,100
bit of boy love Vibes between 
them when they were interacting,

1864
02:00:19,100 --> 02:00:21,900
especially like towards the 
earlier episodes when he was 

1865
02:00:21,900 --> 02:00:24,700
coming over to drink and they 
were like in the painting 

1866
02:00:24,700 --> 02:00:28,500
together and like, writing this 
boat and just drinking the two 

1867
02:00:28,500 --> 02:00:30,900
of them. 
I was like, this has As a little

1868
02:00:30,900 --> 02:00:33,900
vibe to it and I can ship them 
easily. 

1869
02:00:34,400 --> 02:00:36,100
Hold on. 
I have a question. 

1870
02:00:36,300 --> 02:00:40,300
Yeah, that time it did. 
Chaka. 

1871
02:00:40,300 --> 02:00:44,300
Khan know that wrong house. 
Master was cheating. 

1872
02:00:46,100 --> 02:00:48,200
Hmm. 
Oh I can't remember. 

1873
02:00:48,700 --> 02:00:54,500
Okay, I think that's a thing. 
I don't know if you knew I 

1874
02:00:54,500 --> 02:00:58,200
think. 
So then I would expect him to 

1875
02:00:58,200 --> 02:01:06,900
also get upset and angry at at 
chungcheong for liking Orchid, 

1876
02:01:06,900 --> 02:01:09,900
right? 
Like, you're betraying my master

1877
02:01:10,100 --> 02:01:13,800
but there was none of that. 
It clearly told me that. 

1878
02:01:14,700 --> 02:01:17,200
Wrong. 
How did not care for chumhum? 

1879
02:01:17,200 --> 02:01:20,000
And that's something that okay. 
I think that's a little 

1880
02:01:20,000 --> 02:01:22,200
far-fetched. 
Like I do think that he cared 

1881
02:01:22,200 --> 02:01:24,100
for him especially because you 
saved his life when he didn't 

1882
02:01:24,100 --> 02:01:27,400
have to. 
And he knew that there was like 

1883
02:01:27,700 --> 02:01:31,600
beef between them that he was in
the wrong that he was killing 

1884
02:01:31,600 --> 02:01:34,600
people left and right to create 
evil Chi and he was like doing 

1885
02:01:34,600 --> 02:01:40,700
things against the heavens plan 
and that he was a bit like wrung

1886
02:01:40,700 --> 02:01:41,900
out. 
Knew he was the villain. 

1887
02:01:42,300 --> 02:01:44,800
No, I'm saying some villains. 
Don't think they're the Ellen, 

1888
02:01:45,000 --> 02:01:46,900
he actually was a villain. 
Yes, sir. 

1889
02:01:46,900 --> 02:01:50,600
That's true. 
And he was concentrating on 

1890
02:01:50,600 --> 02:01:54,500
getting Sheedy back. 
I guess made more efforts than 

1891
02:01:54,500 --> 02:02:02,200
chun-hyang to bring GT back, but
I just feel like, overall, I 

1892
02:02:02,200 --> 02:02:11,000
think that tri-d and wrong how 
failed in their training, mmm, 

1893
02:02:11,000 --> 02:02:15,700
because I feel like as a master 
whose Teaching you have to 

1894
02:02:15,700 --> 02:02:21,500
understand Evolution and 
acceptance and Fades and all of 

1895
02:02:21,508 --> 02:02:25,300
that. 
And I don't think he learned 

1896
02:02:25,300 --> 02:02:31,400
that from her, got you. 
Yeah she was like why are you 

1897
02:02:31,400 --> 02:02:36,600
doing and you know, he she was 
talking about your devolving 

1898
02:02:36,600 --> 02:02:41,700
into your basest, human 
instincts here and wanting to 

1899
02:02:42,200 --> 02:02:45,800
save me and keep me alive and he
Like, well, I don't care like 

1900
02:02:45,800 --> 02:02:48,800
fuck the world. 
I want you back and she was like

1901
02:02:48,800 --> 02:02:51,900
the only time I ever like 
succumb to human emotion, or 

1902
02:02:51,900 --> 02:02:58,800
feeling was when I saved you. 
And that was really sad and 

1903
02:02:58,800 --> 02:03:01,300
wrong and she went to the 
Arbiter and was like can you 

1904
02:03:01,300 --> 02:03:05,200
save this boy and the Arbiter 
was like I can. 

1905
02:03:05,400 --> 02:03:09,100
But are you okay with being an 
agent of evil in the future? 

1906
02:03:09,500 --> 02:03:15,700
She was like yeah sure 
everything comes at a price and 

1907
02:03:15,700 --> 02:03:20,700
the price of their bond was too 
much either. 

1908
02:03:20,700 --> 02:03:25,700
That was like so many people 
were murdered and Are they 

1909
02:03:25,700 --> 02:03:27,600
weren't the same. 
Like even she was like your 

1910
02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:31,300
music has changed. 
You're different, where's the 

1911
02:03:31,308 --> 02:03:35,000
Purity in your music? 
And where's the Purity? 

1912
02:03:35,000 --> 02:03:42,600
In your fighting ability, like 
what happened to you anyway? 

1913
02:03:42,600 --> 02:03:45,100
I think I have come to the end 
of my notes. 

1914
02:03:45,100 --> 02:03:48,700
Did you have anything else you 
wanted to add about love between

1915
02:03:48,700 --> 02:03:51,400
Ferry and devil other than its 
life-changing? 

1916
02:03:51,400 --> 02:03:52,800
Definitely go watch it. 
I'm so sorry. 

1917
02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:57,100
If you've listened to this far 
and And you have been spoiled. 

1918
02:03:57,100 --> 02:03:59,400
I wear. 
It's better than how we 

1919
02:03:59,400 --> 02:04:01,600
explained it. 
Please go watch the show. 

1920
02:04:02,400 --> 02:04:06,600
But Carol, what is up at last 
thoughts? 

1921
02:04:06,600 --> 02:04:09,900
Final thoughts. 
Final thoughts. 

1922
02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:13,100
It was a great drama. 
It was a great ride. 

1923
02:04:13,200 --> 02:04:16,800
I'm excited to see what both 
needs do. 

1924
02:04:17,000 --> 02:04:19,300
Hmm. 
Next, I'm going to watch the 

1925
02:04:19,300 --> 02:04:21,900
next drama. 
Today. 

1926
02:04:24,100 --> 02:04:27,800
Okay I'm gonna get my hair done 
so I got to download episodes 

1927
02:04:27,800 --> 02:04:37,600
and oh I got you but yeah I I 
loved it. 

1928
02:04:37,700 --> 02:04:41,500
Yeah, Mount Rushmore. 
Yes, it is up there. 

1929
02:04:41,900 --> 02:04:43,500
Yeah, for sure. 
It's up there. 

1930
02:04:43,500 --> 02:04:47,100
It's really good. 
Johnny 22 for sure. 

1931
02:04:48,100 --> 02:04:50,800
All right. 
Carol, thank you so much for 

1932
02:04:50,800 --> 02:04:51,800
coming. 
This episode. 

1933
02:04:51,800 --> 02:04:54,800
Thank you for making the time 
for being so gracious. 

1934
02:04:54,800 --> 02:04:58,200
And even suggesting that we do 
this episode, I have had so much

1935
02:04:58,200 --> 02:05:02,000
fun watching the show, and so 
much fun talking with you online

1936
02:05:02,000 --> 02:05:05,600
and offline. 
I can't believe that we actually

1937
02:05:05,700 --> 02:05:08,000
cover to see drama on the 
regular debauch feed. 

1938
02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:11,500
It is a long time coming and 
it's kind of like in between 

1939
02:05:11,500 --> 02:05:13,400
Seasons. 
Like it doesn't even fits like a

1940
02:05:13,400 --> 02:05:16,300
special episode but I'm so glad 
I shared it with you. 

1941
02:05:17,000 --> 02:05:18,500
Where can we find you online, 
Carol? 

1942
02:05:19,500 --> 02:05:26,000
You can find me at a Dramatics 
Club on Instagram and at Carol 

1943
02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:29,800
markway, also on Instagram and 
on Twitter. 

1944
02:05:30,300 --> 02:05:34,500
I yeah I just hang out online, 
do reviews. 

1945
02:05:34,500 --> 02:05:37,900
We're not can and I'd love to 
meet everyone to. 

1946
02:05:37,900 --> 02:05:39,800
So thank you so much for having 
me. 

1947
02:05:39,800 --> 02:05:42,800
I'm so glad I was your first see
drama. 

1948
02:05:42,800 --> 02:05:46,500
Yes. 
Hopefully, I come back. 

1949
02:05:46,700 --> 02:05:48,300
Yes. 
Thank you. 

1950
02:05:49,200 --> 02:05:50,900
Thank you. 
And if you want more Carol, 

1951
02:05:50,900 --> 02:05:55,000
definitely listen to our search 
www episode, where we reviewed 

1952
02:05:55,400 --> 02:05:59,300
that show with Demi has 
welcomed, he's a trip. 

1953
02:06:00,300 --> 02:06:05,100
So if you want to know, Carol's 
background in kdrama and some 

1954
02:06:05,100 --> 02:06:09,700
other suggestions from her watch
listen to that episode, It's 

1955
02:06:09,700 --> 02:06:13,000
amazing. 
So I think that's been our show.

1956
02:06:13,700 --> 02:06:16,700
We gotta get out of here, we got
things to do, we got more dramas

1957
02:06:16,700 --> 02:06:19,100
to watch. 
So that's been our show. 

1958
02:06:19,500 --> 02:06:21,500
I'm Jessica and this has been 
the Dybbuk. 

1959
02:06:21,500 --> 02:06:22,900
He Rambles podcast.