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What's going on? 
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this Tuesday. 
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We've got a big one today. 
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well. 
It is hot as hell out. 

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It's actually hot out today, Jay
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I had to go out and make sure 
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got to feed the grass. 
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sweat this morning. 
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That hot buddy that's not. 
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Already. 
Is it 85 already? 

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I think so. 
It's something like that. 

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Dude, I I took a step out. 
It was like I was sweating. 

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Would you rather be, Speaking of
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Would you rather be freezing or 
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Sleeping. 
Freezing because. 

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You can always put more. 
Blankets on. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
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like you got to decide, all 
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Am I sleeping with the blanket? 
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Like, what? 
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Or am I going? 
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So what about you? 
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I don't. 
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the T-shirt and I usually don't 
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hotel, I got to I got to bang it
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studio when I was in the studio 
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I like it nice and cool. 
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back to the to the sweating 
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show on when they had to crank 
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No, I definitely prefer cool. 
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also a guy, Jay, and I told you 
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and snow on the ground. 
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a little pass to the fire pit 
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like I, I don't mind being, I've
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But always prefer to be cold. 
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cold is when really when I'm 
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That's not fun. 
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We got a little baseball for you
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A lot of footballs. 
We get to what, 9 days now 

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before the start of the drafts? 
Let's jump into it, guys. 

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Get that chat rock and get 
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or in your local grocery store. 
I mean, the Mets still can't hit

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wild one with the Yankees last 
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you know, you know, bang for 
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but I want to start with the NFL
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unprecedented. 
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bit much here, maybe prisoner of
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we're going to get, you know, I 
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And now that I think about it, J
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So we've had over, you know, 
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the conventional draft. 
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trades in the NF LS history, 
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13 times it involved the 1st 
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I don't necessarily mean that, 
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perfect storm of activity, 
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Famer. 
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So it it's, it's hard to to 
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Excuse me, but I think there's 
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I think there's a good seven or 
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really looking to get out. 
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a move it to, but I think that 
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enticed to maybe moving off, 
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Cardinals actually set the draft
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defense. 
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going to kind of be a bit of an 
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shape at least the next 8-9 
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I think Arizona's open for 
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I'm talking, I think the Titans 
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that, you know, they're 
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Jeremiah Love. 
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they're going to do that. 
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something we mentioned, yet 
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think in the chat, the Saints at
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I think Kansas City at 9. 
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you think in the meet whatever 
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prime? 
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Unless there's like a trade, 
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Sadiq with tight with, with 
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something else that happens. 
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corners, whether it's McCoy, 
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And I even think, of course, 
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#23 So I, I just think it's a, 
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anticipate a lot of action, 
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unique. 
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League Baseball. 
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bit in the NBA, like when, when 
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were dealt or a seat, Chris 
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Even Stefan Marbury, I think he 
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Was he drafted by the Bucks and 
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There was some early action in 
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even kind of fizzled out a 
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I I think it's going to be a lot
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really guys, there's a lot of 
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time on this already and I love 
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Like there's, there's not many 
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the NFL draft, though certainly 
like Sunday to gust that we 

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talked about that. 
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that's next level, you know, 
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Wall court weekend, divisional 

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weekend, conference championship
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because all the nonsense there. 
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within the sporting calendar. 
The NFL draft to me is just, you

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know, I don't want to say that 
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be a prisoner of the. 
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Because when you think about 
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all the, I mean, if you watch 
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Mox, we know all these players. 
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changed, which I think gives the
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say over the NBA, is that we've 
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than one year now. 
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portal. 
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Mendoza, prior to going to 
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championship, he was a cow where
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squeezed into a bowl. 
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sure. 
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shouted down some of these. 
We've watched Reese play for a 

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while. 
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day one. 
We've watched. 

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Now, I don't watch Texas Tech 
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there's a ton of film and 
there's a lot of familiarity 

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with Bailey and Bain at Miami. 
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obviously in the championship. 
Sonny Styles, not that I'm out 

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here grading offensive line 
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I'm I'm never going to front and
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great hands. 
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offensive lineman, it's really 
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Spencer Fano from Utah is going 
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Jeremiah Love we talk about all 
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Tate McCoy, I just mentioned him
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Kenyon Sadiq, I mentioned him, 
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These are all names that if 
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just as a slight a modicum of 
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football Saturday and watching 
the Buckeyes and the Oregons and

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some of the higher level 
Michigan, of course, some of the

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higher level teams there. 
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of this year, you know, these 
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And and I just think I Jay, I 
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get a traitor to going into the 
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All right. 
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curveball comes in, I think it's
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it's going to be awesome and I 
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I'm pumped man. 
What I was seeing, you know, 

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some rumors, maybe The Jets 
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their later picks. 
What do you think about that? 

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OK, OK. 
Yeah, listen, I think that's 

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absolutely good question. 
I think that that's absolutely 

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in play of the two first round 
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think they're much more inclined
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two because they'll have more 
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justifiable. 
And at that point, the 

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quarterback comes into play and 
he's not in play #2 obviously I 

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would want to know are they 
moving up or are they moving 

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back, if you know? 
So do you, do you have a little 

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bit more specifics there? 
I think they're amenable to a 

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trade because Moogie's already 
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trade. 
But go ahead, finish your. 

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Thought what I was seeing was 
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up. 
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Moving up to the neighborhood of
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like. 
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because think about this, Jay, 
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obviously your 16th pick and 
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system there. 
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I don't know exactly what that 
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get you. 
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of nine and eight or nine. 
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commanders, maybe even at 7, who
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I mentioned the certainly the 
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yeah, I would be more than 
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I just want to know at that 
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this now, just from a Jets 
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we've got episode #4 coming up 
tomorrow night there, Jay, let's

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get that up on the screen. 
My God, look at him. 

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He's quick, he's awake, he's 
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My guy. 
Jay Rod is ready for the draft. 

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The Jets collective hop on the 
on the page, give it a like, 

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give a sub, all that stuff. 
Myself and Jake Aspen, the great

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Rich Samidi. 
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Rich obviously been doing this 
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So no, no, no shade of Jake at 
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Great chemistry, awesome show, 
really well produced, great 

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opinions, great info. 
And Rich actually had an article

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which I finally got to read 
yesterday. 

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As a matter of fact, I read it 
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I think he dropped it over the 
weekend. 

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So I was probably about a day or
two behind You. 

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Get that off there. 
Thank you very much. 

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That's at 7:00 tomorrow night. 
Jets Collective, the three of 

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us, we're doing it every week. 
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we'll go from one show a week to
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It's called The Jets Collective.
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And then I'll be doing my own 
stuff, immediate name reactions,

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all that stuff on BT and Lee. 
So the article, just as a quick 

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aside here, the article was how 
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piece. 
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receiver to go first overall 
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And it's just like, especially 
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lived that, which I obviously 
AM, I mean all all the different

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machinations and like what The 
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Peyton, is he going to come out?
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one. 
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comments from some of the older 
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and decision makers. 
I don't think Parcells was 

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quoted, but everybody else was 
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And it's funny, it's, it's 
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as to what has been historically
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Not the Keyshawn wasn't good. 
He was, he was very good for 

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four years. 
You know, they won the they won 

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the division first time ever in 
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They should have gone to the 
Super Bowl. 

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They should have beat Denver. 
They were we all know that. 

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I think they would have mopped 
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I have no, I can't prove that. 
That's what I think. 

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You had the greatest coach at 
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coordinator in Belichick. 
You had a Hall of Fame staff, 

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you had Curtis, you had Corbett,
you had Keyshawn, you had 

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defense, you just had it all. 
You had Kevin Hawaii in the as a

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center Hall of Famer. 
You were just ready to go. 

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And they lose, right? 
But when they chronicled that 96

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draft and they talked about as 
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process as of the morning of the
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just Leon has at that point 
still on the team. 

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And then what? 
He bought it in 2000. 

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Leon Hess was still alive 
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rooted in oil and The Jets 
weren't sure if they were going 

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to be able to put together and 
enticing enough package either 

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to entice Keyshawn or from The 
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wanted to spend that much on the
1st overall pick. 

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Because Jay, you got to remember
like right now, you get dredded 

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first. 
You get dredded forth and let's 

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say Jeremiah loves gold goes 
forth to Tennessee. 

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He already knows slotted what 
he's going to make. 

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Back then it was like, no, you 
got to sit down with the camp 

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and the agents and. 
Work it out with the player, 

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yes. 
Wild it's y'all and Keyshawn got

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a six year deal and they wound 
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year there to Tampa. 
They got a boatload back and 

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they had three first round picks
in 2001, of whom was Chad 

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Abraham Ellis and Anthony Beck, 
the tied in from West Virginia. 

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The point being, it's a really, 
really good article. 

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But they said in the article 
they're like, yeah, well, we we 

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know that we needed us. 
We knew that we needed a splash.

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And Keyshawn had this charisma. 
And I'm reading this all these 

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years later. 
And again, Keyshawn was really 

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good, not great. 
Wasn't Jerry Rice. 

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He was good, really good, right?
I'm reading this. 

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I'm saying that's not why you 
draft somebody first overall. 

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And one of the quotes actually 
attributed to one of their 

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personnel people. 
I think it may have been Pat 

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Kerwin. 
I, if I have that right, I think

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it was Pat. 
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Giants own the city and we were 
trying to get a little piece of 

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it and try to carve out our own 
identity and we needed a splash.

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Well, that's one of the problems
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You know, I've been making 
splashes with Brett Favre and 

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Aaron Rodgers. 
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they're doing it the right way 
now. 

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But but very quickly, because 
this is not just about The Jets,

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but you asked me about this, 
right? 

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I believe there's, you know, 
when you look at the two in the 

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16th overall pick and I'm, I'm 
on the record with this and I 

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have not changed my opinion. 
They're either going to go, it's

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probably about four options. 
First option is, and I'm going 

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to exclude trades for a moment 
because then we could just be 

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here all day and just 
incorporate 3 or 4 possible 

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trade. 
So they drafted 2, they drafted 

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16 #1 scenario defense, defense,
which I think is highly 

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plausible, obviously, because 
it's number one for me #2 if 

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they stick at 2 and 16, 
definitely go on defense too, no

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matter what. 
And then wide receiver, OK #3 

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would be defense 1st. 
And then maybe Kenyan Sadiq, the

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tight end from Oregon at 16. 
And Rich said on the show last 

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week, Rich Tamini, he's getting 
Intel. 

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He thinks he's gone. 
He thinks he's gone by 13 or 14.

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So The Jets love him. 
And to your point, if they want 

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to move up and what you read and
what you just brought to the air

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before, if that's the case, 
well, then they're gonna have to

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make a trade. 
The other scenario would be 

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obviously on a smaller level, 
maybe deep. 

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Well, defense is probably 5 
defense wide receiver, OK. 

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And there's four or five guys 
with first round grades, 

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although you just know one, one 
or two is going to slip it 

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around to what happens all the 
time. 

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And then the last one, you have 
to incorporate the quarterback 

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defensive to Ty Simpson. 
And again, if that's if they 

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stick at 16, but I think that 
that's where 33 becomes more in 

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play. 
They scoop back in play first 

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round like Lamar Jackson, the 
Ravens, blah, blah, blah. 

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So that's what's going on with 
that. 

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I, I think that this is just 
that the NFL does a lot of 

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things that drive me nuts, 
really play it on Christmas Day.

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They've taken away the, I don't 
know if intrigue is the right 

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word, but there's an 
overconsumption of football now,

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which I think was, you know what
I'm saying, which, which I've 

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always thought was football's 
greatest inherent strength. 

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Like, I love baseball. 
You know, I watched my son had a

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basketball game last night and 
my daughter had a softball game 

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before that. 
So I watch I listened going to 

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the basketball game had him on 
her judge's home run the first 

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one get to that later and then I
came home. 

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I watched a couple and then 
Yankees bullpen stinks. 

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By the way, Yankees bullpen this
might be I do have a solution 

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later in the show. 
This might be the worst Yankees 

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bullpen since really Buck 95 
wild card Tory championship in 

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96. 
It's the bullpen stinks. 

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All right. 
Everybody's focused on the 

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Yankees lack of hitting, 
although they did hit last night

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and maybe Grisham gets going. 
I don't trust anybody in the 

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book. 
They already sent Jake Bird 

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after the game. 
There's like a George Booth 

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dude, pack your bags. 
You stink, go back down to go 

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down a AAA. 
So anyway, I'm I watched the 

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Yankees last night. 
I watched a good chunk of the 

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Mets game before I fell asleep. 
But but that's me. 

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I'm a baseball guy. 
The beauty baseball is that it's

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always, it's a companion that is
never going to abandon you. 

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You know what I mean? 
It's like that safety blanket or

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that safety valve, when you want
it, you put it on. 

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You don't have to be locked in, 
like, on every single pitch. 

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Like, think, think about the 
difference. 

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Now, you're not married yet, 
but, you know, if you want to 

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get married someday, I mean, you
got to get a couple dates before

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you get married, to be fair. 
But yeah. 

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And those those who are new to 
the show, I just like to entice 

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my my young superstar sending 
young carrot. 

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On the stick with the carrot. 
On the stick, first you got to 

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get to date #1 and then that's 
got to go well. 

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And then once that goes well, if
it goes well, you obviously move

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to date #2 and then your boy BT 
will take care of date #3 at a 

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nice restaurant and I'm good. 
I got a couple of spots in mind 

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here in Jersey. 
Come out, come out, Yeah. 

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I was going to say when the chef
will come out, you know, make 

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you look like a big shot, you 
know, maybe pair a little vino 

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with the foods, depending upon 
if you go there, white, you 

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know, white wine, red wine, 
steak, whatever. 

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So we'll take care of that. 
But what what as as as J Rod 

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will learn eventually if he ever
gets married. 

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The the thing about watching 
football with a family now I'm 

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lucky it's my job. 
My son loves football, my 

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daughter, my daughter likes 
football. 

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My let my wife loves football. 
So we're a football fit. 

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My son plays my daughter. 
Cheers. 

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We're a football family, right, 
But if you're not a football 

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family, good luck sitting on the
couch, especially when there's a

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game in London from 10:00 in the
morning to the end of the Sunday

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night game. 
You know what, when your wife 

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wants not not the stereotype on 
a on a male female, you know, 

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sex or thing like, you know, 
women want to do this and guys 

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want to do that because that's 
ridiculous. 

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But you know, you know, maybe a 
little bit more applicable back 

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in the day, but your wife's 
nagging you. 

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I want to go apple pick and I 
want to get pictures for little 

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Joey. 
We we got a three-year old 

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birthday party that the kids, 
we're not going to be friends 

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within five years, but because 
he lives down the street, we all

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got to go. 
And the dads are looking at each

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other like this and looking at 
the phones and fantasy and bad 

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like good luck navigating that. 
So the advantage that football's

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always had clearly has been 
dissipated because they're 

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getting greedy. 
You know, with the international

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games and the Sunday night games
and the Monday night games and 

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the Thursday games and the 
Christmas games and the other 

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hot Thanksgiving. 
Now there's three. 

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Obviously you get deep in the 
season, you've got games on 

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Saturday, but but the inherent 
advantage that the NFL, even if 

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they tried to concoct a plan to 
mess it up and minimize the 

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impact and the strength as it 
buoys the product is the draft. 

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I mean, think about the NBA 
draft energy. 

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And I know you're a big NBA guy,
and so am I, but think about for

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the average sports fan, NBA 
draft, MLB draft, NHL draft, NFL

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draft, It's just. 
Got some sauce to it. 

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00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,080
I don't know what it is. 
I mean I I don't know it's it's 

445
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,360
just got a grander scale even 
the presentation they do it. 

446
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,280
It's such a you know bigger 
thing. 

447
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,680
You know the boats are like even
this year the stage looks 

448
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,800
absolutely wild. 
I didn't see the. 

449
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,560
Stage yet? 
You got to look at it, yeah. 

450
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,960
I got to pick, dude. 
It's huge. 

451
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:54,760
I mean, it's like futuristic oh 
wow, my God, Bret Michaels 

452
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,400
performing at it. 
Let's go. 

453
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,600
They really from poison? 
Dude. 

454
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,200
I did like an interview with him
last week. 

455
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,720
Bro Bret. 
Michaels him and. 

456
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,840
Brett, he's got to be from, he's
from Pittsburgh, dude, it was 

457
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:07,960
wild, really all. 
Right. 

458
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,000
No listen, it's funny. 
You just poison's great. 

459
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:12,880
Some of the tunes of bangers 
every. 

460
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:18,160
Rose. 
Has it's the one every night has

461
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,280
his down. 
All right, so I funny, I had 

462
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:23,920
this a little later in the show.
I'll jump into this now. 

463
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,840
Hey, get the chats, get the text
going. 

464
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,440
Let's everybody hop in, have a 
little fun. 

465
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,280
So do you do you're a big 
musical guy. 

466
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,760
For those who don't know, J 
Rod's in a band plays the bass. 

467
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,920
He plays in a lot of places down
Lower East Side. 

468
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,880
He is a he is a music person, 
all right? 

469
00:21:42,120 --> 00:21:44,400
You love rap, but fairly 
eclectic taste. 

470
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,600
You know, you got some old bands
for the Pops, obviously, right? 

471
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,240
Do you understand how the Rock 
and Roll Hall of Fame really 

472
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,560
works? 
Not at all. 

473
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,560
OK, I mean it. 
Seems like at this point, it's 

474
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,720
just like if you were a if you 
were a popular musician at any 

475
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,480
point, you're a candidate for 
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. 

476
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,480
Yeah, that's a very loose 
translation, like. 

477
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,760
Yeah. 
With I guess from the. 60s on 

478
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,960
sort of deal like even if you 
were like is Cyndi Lauper in the

479
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,920
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame now 
her music, your music is 

480
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,760
adjacent to rock, even though 
it's more poppy 80s kind of 

481
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,840
synth kind of deal. 
But you know, now it's just it's

482
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,880
basically I think it's pretty 
much comprised of the rap and 

483
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,160
rock Hall of Fame at this point.
Well at this. 

484
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,120
Point. 
They should probably just call 

485
00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:31,520
it the Music Hall of Fame, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, doesn't make 

486
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,120
sense, no. 
I don't. 

487
00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:36,960
I think it was. 
I think it was born or the idea 

488
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,040
was spawned in either the late 
80s or the early 90s. 

489
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,480
But rap wasn't in its infancy in
the early 90s. 

490
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,080
You had the West Coast game at 
that point. 

491
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,240
I mean, rap has been around 
underground since, you know, in 

492
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,600
terms of spinning records and, 
you know, up up in the Bronx. 

493
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,280
Like, no 70s, really. 
Yeah. 

494
00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:55,480
The mid 70s was went like Cool 
Hurricane, some of these guys 

495
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,600
like Grandmaster Flesh when they
were starting to spin and, you 

496
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,280
know, cut, you know, cut the 
records up and stuff. 

497
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,600
Like now, they weren't planted 
on the radio in 1974. 

498
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,960
That was still Led Zeppelin, and
I'm sure some Elvis stuff and 

499
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,560
The Who, whatever, But no, what 
you got into, certainly when I 

500
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,320
was in grammar school now, it 
wasn't as nearly as mainstream 

501
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,040
as it is now, but you know, I 
had run the MC and then I had 

502
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,280
the Beastie Boys, and then I was
even messing around with the Fat

503
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:21,840
Boys. 
The movie, The Disorderly. 

504
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,880
Yeah, like this, the Disorderly 
that came up. 

505
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,320
So to me. 
I just. 

506
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,840
I need somebody to let me know 
what the Hell's going on with 

507
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,560
this, so I just. 
Looked up the criteria. 

508
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:35,040
I got the criteria, I got it. 
Is it, is it just you have to 

509
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,120
have your first commercial 
release at least 25 years, 

510
00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:43,720
correct or that's the old the 
sole kind of criteria that's. 

511
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:49,360
Well, yeah, that's the sole like
non subjective point of 

512
00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:50,960
evaluation. 
You're right. 

513
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,120
But there's a few other things, 
not many. 

514
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,480
Yeah, you're eligible 25 years 
after the first, after your 

515
00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,040
first recording goes whatever 
the word, whatever word you use 

516
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,880
there. 
But then you get into like 

517
00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:07,680
musical excellence. 
Okay, that's kind of it varies. 

518
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,120
Then you get into impact and 
influence. 

519
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,720
All right. 
Well, I mean, who's voting on 

520
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:14,440
this? 
Well, I've got that. 

521
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:15,880
I got the I got that for you as 
well. 

522
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,120
I guess the nominees are chosen 
by committee, right? 

523
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,720
And then Yep. 
And then they're voted on by 

524
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,960
12150 industry experts. 
And I would have to think at 

525
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,960
this point, maybe not early on, 
which was some of the rap 

526
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,440
artists, you know, took a while 
for them to get in. 

527
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,560
But I would think that early on 
it was not a good cross section 

528
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:34,760
like it was. 
I don't want to say that it was 

529
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,040
biased, but it was like the old 
guard like that that I don't 

530
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,160
think that rapping house music 
and whatever else, I don't think

531
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,480
that that was really 
represented. 

532
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,040
I would think by now the year 
2026, when you have 1200 

533
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,400
industry experts, I would think 
that it's it's all-encompassing.

534
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:55,040
But here's the thing, right? 
So the nominees for 2026 new 

535
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,320
addition. 
I love the audition. 

536
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:58,800
Come on. 
Right, right. 

537
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,440
Was that was Ronnie Bobby. 
Wait, we got to cool it now. 

538
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,480
Got to cool it now. 
Do you know that song? 

539
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:06,680
I I do. 
I do. 

540
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,920
I'm like, familiar. 
Not I I can't say I ever spun it

541
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,440
on my own accord. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

542
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,240
Yeah, yeah. 
Wait, hold on. 

543
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,000
Ronnie, Bobby, Ricky, Mike. 
I like the girl. 

544
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,280
Who cares who you like? 
Oh, New edition was great. 

545
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,160
Pink. 
All right, some bangers, but 

546
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,360
not, not not a big fan. 
Black crows. 

547
00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:26,120
I love them pink, OK? 
I mean, it makes sense, but even

548
00:25:26,120 --> 00:25:29,480
for me, he's a beast. 
Really. 25 years, yeah. 

549
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,880
Think about that. 
I know. 

550
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,480
I mean, that's my. 
My entire existence, so they 

551
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:35,760
think. 
Think about that. 

552
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,360
Listen, you get older, things 
start, things start shrinking. 

553
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,840
Well, I mean maybe for some, but
time starts condensing itself, 

554
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,320
right and accelerate. 
So you got new edition Pink, The

555
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,800
Black Crowes, who I saw in 
Parents and I love the Black 

556
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,040
Rose, Shakira, who's a 
phenomenon. 

557
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,760
Lord Hill, The Fugees, but this.
But Lord Hill's great. 

558
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,880
I love Lord Hill, but Lord Hill.
This is just her own solo work. 

559
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:03,160
Melissa Etheridge, I'm coming 
home like that right up to my 

560
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,560
window. 
I think that's the song. 

561
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,240
And Mariah Carey. 
Now, first of all, unless I had 

562
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,880
this wrong and I did a fairly 
decent amount of research this 

563
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,320
morning, Mariah Carey did not 
get in. 

564
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,960
I mean, what, what? 
I'm not a huge Mariah Carey. 

565
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,640
I mean, young Mariah Carey I 
love. 

566
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,960
But you know, Reese or whatever.
Here's what I don't get. 

567
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,920
So I guess Iron Maiden finally 
got in this year? 

568
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,720
Iron Maiden with Ozzy Osbourne 
was not in until yesterday. 

569
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,720
So wait, no, you're thinking 
black. 

570
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:34,760
Sabbath. 
I mean black. 

571
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,760
Sabbath black steak. 
I knew the black. 

572
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,680
Sabbath wasn't in until 
yesterday. 

573
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:40,520
Wait, no. 
Or iron. 

574
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,560
Maiden wasn't in until 
yesterday. 

575
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:47,040
Timeout. 22nd Timeout Timeout 
The idiot on the floor Timeout 

576
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,040
ref I'm the idiot. 
Black Sabbath is in Black 

577
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,720
Sabbath. 
Ozzy Solo. 

578
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,800
Ozzy Iron. 
Maiden is not being in is still 

579
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,680
ridiculous I believe. 
They just got in yesterday's 

580
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,600
what I'm saying, but they were 
not on base. 

581
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,000
There, Yeah. 
Motorhead's not in Thin Lizzy. 

582
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,600
I don't know if you know who 
they are not. 

583
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,520
In whoa, Thin Lizzy's not. 
In the Rock'n'roll, they're not.

584
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,640
In No Dude, Jane's Addiction, 
Alice In Chains. 

585
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,560
I just, I don't understand it. 
I mean, if Harold Baines is in 

586
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:20,560
the Baseball Hall of Fame, why 
is Nas not in the Rock and Peja?

587
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,160
Stoyakovich is in the Basketball
Hall of Fame. 

588
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,760
How is Alice In Chains not in 
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? 

589
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,760
Well, but yeah. 
I appreciate the energy there, 

590
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,840
but on the I know and 
basketball's different. 

591
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,480
I know it's international. 
I get it. 

592
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,800
I get. 
Well, that's your answer. 

593
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,800
I mean, you know the answer 
there buddy, but still, 

594
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,240
listening him to even 
international basketball is not 

595
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,720
Alice In Chains to Rock'n'roll 
come. 

596
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,400
On I'm with you. 
I agree. 

597
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,760
Well look, look at the tiger 
coming out of the cage. 

598
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,120
Put the put the Rottweiler back 
in the Canada. 

599
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,840
No, look at him. 
J Rod, I love it. 

600
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,320
No, you're not. 
You're not wrong. 

601
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,600
And I have been to Cleveland. 
I imagine Feder I went to the 

602
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,560
Darrelle Revis and well, let me 
put that order properly. 

603
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,920
The Joe Klecko and the Darrelle 
Revis Hall of Fame and TriMet a 

604
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,680
couple year. 
I actually ran a trip there for 

605
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,640
my Jets getaway company, right. 
We had about 7580 people was 

606
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,360
absolutely awesome Hall of Fame 
game, the ceremony, big party 

607
00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:11,640
and all that stuff. 
So I was in Cleveland for that. 

608
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,120
I've been there for NCAA 
tournament years ago, like not, 

609
00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:20,480
not the not the championship, 
but like around before that. 

610
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,400
Been there a couple times, is my
point, right. 

611
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,080
And I always wanted to try to go
to the Hall of Fame, the 

612
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,000
Rock'n'roll whole fame. 
I just never had time and you 

613
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,840
know, but like what is even you 
think about some of the 

614
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,880
artifacts right around you know,
you think about the basketball, 

615
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,480
the pro basketball, as it's 
called the pro basketball Hall 

616
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,400
of Fame. 
You have like the initial Peach 

617
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,080
basket where Doctor Naismith 
where he invented the game and 

618
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,280
like those leather balls with 
with the lacing on it, right 

619
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,440
Early sneakers like the Chuck 
Taylor's, you know, uniforms, 

620
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,960
like the nut huggers that like 
you know, George Miket and these

621
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,560
dudes would wear outside of I 
and I need you to jump in on 

622
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,240
this outside of like maybe a a 
bass or a guitar like has the 

623
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,160
equipment drums? 
Has the equipment changed? 

624
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:08,080
Has it evolved at the rapid rate
of say the sneaker evolution? 

625
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,560
I don't mean popularity in. 
Terms of tech. 

626
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,920
Yeah, big. 
Time I don't know if the stuff 

627
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,800
that would be in the like if the
tech that artists use now here 

628
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,000
like let me shove it for 
example. 

629
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,160
Oh, look at J Rod is into it 
today. 

630
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,760
So like. 
Here, like here's like the tech.

631
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,440
So this is like a guitar pedal. 
Like people would know what that

632
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,000
is and like the chat maybe. 
So it's like that's like 

633
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,880
something an artist would use 
and it kind of like changes the 

634
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,600
sound of your instrument. 
So like in the Rock and Roll 

635
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,240
Hall of Fame, they probably have
like Kurt Cobain stuff like his 

636
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,400
equipment, his gear. 
And so it's like those are kind 

637
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,920
of the artifacts from the modern
day that would be in like, okay,

638
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,960
the. 
Okay, and listen, I'm sure 

639
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,280
you've got maybe a jumpsuit that
Elvis wore. 

640
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,760
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure. 
Now that I think about, I'm sure

641
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,080
they perhaps some pretty cool 
stuff like a Sequin Jackson, 

642
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,720
Michael Jackson, Sequin Blaze or
whatever. 

643
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,800
The glove. 
You know what's? 

644
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,040
Funny is like, I feel like a lot
of this stuff, I'm sure a ton of

645
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,560
it's in the Rock and Roll Hall 
of Fame. 

646
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,920
I've got a lot of this stuff is 
like either most of it is either

647
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,240
in just like weird auction house
collections or. 

648
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,480
Or like hard. 
Rock Cafes like have you ever 

649
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,200
gone to I should? 
Go there all the time. 

650
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,720
Yeah, I went to. 
One in it was in. 

651
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,480
It was the one in Niagara Falls,
NY and they had straight up, 

652
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:29,280
they had John Lennon's guitar in
Hard Rock Cafe in Niagara Falls.

653
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:30,080
New Year. 
I've been there. 

654
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,520
I've been to that hard ride with
my dad. 

655
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,240
Wow, that's funny. 
Yeah, yeah. 

656
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,440
My friends and I went on a trip 
that's cool up there back a 

657
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,720
couple years back. 
And yeah, so it's like, I feel 

658
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,640
like music artifacts are just. 
Since there's. 

659
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,920
Such a hot commodity price wise 
they're probably just spread out

660
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,960
everywhere I guess. 
So and listen, same with some of

661
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,600
the wrestling stuff. 
I know that they've read the WWE

662
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,800
has like the vault where they 
they had a show, I think it was 

663
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,840
on A&E, yeah, right. 
Where they had like the old 

664
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,760
Andres boots and like Harley 
Race's belt and, you know, Ric 

665
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,240
Flair's robe and Roddy Piper's 
killed. 

666
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,040
Like they just found some crazy 
stuff. 

667
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,520
Like I love that stuff. 
I would think, you know, to me 

668
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,360
what I, what I would think might
be, I think you appreciate this 

669
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,560
as as a musician. 
I think the coolest thing, like 

670
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,040
if you gave me an hour to like, 
either look at guitars that Led 

671
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,520
Zeppelin, you know, worked or 
whatever it might be, I think I 

672
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,840
would prefer give me a yellow, 
give me a legal pad with songs 

673
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,080
where they are writing down the 
lyrics and then they're crossing

674
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,200
out. 
And like, this is just some of 

675
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,360
the goals for the show today. 
And like, you see how they 

676
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,720
change a word and they actually 
go through the creative process.

677
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,280
They've got to have some of that
stuff in there. 

678
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,160
Oh my. 
Gosh, I'm that would be the 

679
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,640
coolest stuff to see ever. 
I bet that's in like museums. 

680
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,600
That would be awesome. 
Yeah. 

681
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,360
So I just, I, I don't know, I 
just saw this and I'm like, I 

682
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,600
don't know. 
But yeah, as I talk about this 

683
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,200
on the air, like, because I've 
been to Cooperstown a couple of 

684
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,720
times, I played up in 
Cooperstown. 

685
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,800
I played on the Doubleday field 
there twice. 

686
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,520
Once I think I was about 12, 
played against Japan, which was 

687
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,480
great. 
And then I played a college 

688
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,320
summer tournament. 
There haven't been. 

689
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,960
I don't know if I've been back 
since, man, I got, I got to take

690
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,360
my family there. 
I've not been there in a long 

691
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,120
time. 
But I mean, think about from a 

692
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,760
sporting perspective. 
Yeah, I guess I undersold all 

693
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,640
the different. 
You could have a guitar pick 

694
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,360
from, you know, name Eddie. 
Eddie. 

695
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,560
Great. 
Van Halen, Yeah. 

696
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,480
Yeah, Oh God, yeah. 
At Van Halen, sure. 

697
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,840
It's just it's so it's so 
nebulous and not that I'm 

698
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,280
surprised that it's that it is. 
But like even somebody like 

699
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,720
Baines or Sutton or Burp Lylev 
and like some of these names 

700
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,240
that if you're a real baseball 
fan, like a dyed in the wool 

701
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,040
baseball fan slash a story and 
whatever and you consume the 

702
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,640
numbers, there's at least 
tangible stuff that you can 

703
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,080
point to and you can say, yeah, 
but you know, even though we 

704
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,320
didn't have maybe the requisite 
300 win benchmark, he he was 

705
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,200
above league average. 
He had this war. 

706
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,880
Like you can quantify certain 
things. 

707
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,160
I guess you could do it in 
music. 

708
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,120
Well, this artist had X amount 
of number one hits or platinum. 

709
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,080
So I mean, I can't do that. 
I mean, I have a feeling. 

710
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:10,880
It's like I would guess they the
criteria, maybe they don't like 

711
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,440
I would imagine they don't 
necessarily go off of numbers 

712
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,560
exactly. 
I feel like they probably just 

713
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,360
get a lot of musicians in a room
and they're just like, all 

714
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,720
right, who's iconic? 
Like who are these iconic? 

715
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,800
Influences. 
Yeah, exactly. 

716
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,520
More. 
So than maybe the numbers, but I

717
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,040
totally agree. 
But obviously the numbers not 

718
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,200
played into account into how 
popular you are. 

719
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,160
And then I want to move into 
some some other stuff here. 

720
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,280
Yeah. 
And keep the football stuff 

721
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,640
going, getting some baseball as 
well. 

722
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,520
Hopefully everybody's having a 
good Tuesday here. 

723
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,040
Unleashed, fam. 
J Rod is bringing it today. 

724
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,000
J Rod, look at him. 
He always brings it. 

725
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,200
I did not know that The 
Commodores, unless I was fed 

726
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,840
erroneous information. 
The Commodores are not in the 

727
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,600
whole fame, not rock, the whole 
thing. 

728
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,480
The Commodores, who are the 
best? 

729
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,200
Songs of all time, easily. 
Brick. 

730
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,960
House and brick House and easy. 
Oh, God. 

731
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:07,320
Well, they remember the old, 
there was an NFLI, don't know if

732
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,639
it was DIRECTV. 
There was an NFL commercial that

733
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:13,719
actually used that song. 
And it was like, yeah. 

734
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,560
And I remember some dude like 
waking up and I think he was 

735
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,000
putting on a Titans jersey, just
here easy locks and he's getting

736
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,360
ready for game day, maybe 
putting some wings out. 

737
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,400
Yeah, I I listen, I don't 
profess. 

738
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,800
To know what's quintessential 
movie song, it's got to be in 

739
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,520
every movie ever. 
No, not every, but it's it's 

740
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,719
that's like that's a film class.
OK, but hold. 

741
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:39,080
On so OK name one movie that 
it's in think of that. 

742
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,880
I'm not to put you on the spot. 
You did. 

743
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,800
You did, I mean. 
I mean, listen. 

744
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,719
Sometimes I got to put you on 
the spot, you know? 

745
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:45,719
No clue. 
Make a bolt. 

746
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,040
I know, I've heard it. 
I know. 

747
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,000
I've heard it in a movie. 
Yeah, yeah. 

748
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,520
I can't think of which. 
One I understand one of the 

749
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,040
Shreks, probably Shrek. 
Shrek. 

750
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:56,600
One time my my wife got mad at 
me. 

751
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,360
She's like, you look like Shrek.
He actually dropped the Shrek on

752
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,840
me, No? 
That's like one of the coldest 

753
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,280
insults a man can get. 
I know because Chuck one time 

754
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:12,280
called Shaq it on on NBA on TNT.
He was like, he was like, you 

755
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,640
look like he was like Shaq. 
You're like Shrek. 

756
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,920
Oh. 
My God, it's funny. 

757
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,720
What do we got here? 
MO Cage? 

758
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:22,240
What up MO All right, man, so 
he's got a he's got a giants 

759
00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:25,960
logo so you guys can do some 
interesting things there at #5 

760
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,440
you got your new coach. 
So things are going to be 

761
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,000
turning for the G man So happy 
if you happy for you guys with 

762
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,480
that. 
Best trade The Jets can make is 

763
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,320
trading their owner for somebody
better. 

764
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,440
Let me tell you, I wish like I 
learned. 

765
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,080
Thank you for that MO appreciate
you popping in. 

766
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,920
You're not wrong. 
Woody's a clown. 

767
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,440
You know, I, I, it's very easy 
to say The Jets will never win 

768
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,360
with Woody. 
It's, it's a little lazy. 

769
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,040
Even even shitty owners 
sometimes find a way to just, 

770
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,880
you know, stay out of the way. 
Think about James Dolan. 

771
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,960
I mean, think about the energy 
like that guy was in, in New 

772
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:01,440
York, James Dolan, he was 
despised. 

773
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:06,960
He was abhorred. 
He it was vilified like. 

774
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,720
Just keep. 
Going in that direction of words

775
00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:13,240
and eventually you'll stumble 
upon really all of them fit how 

776
00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:15,160
we felt about Dolan. 
But things change. 

777
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,600
Why? 
Because he made a smart hire in 

778
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,320
Leon Rose and he stayed out of 
the way. 

779
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,080
Now listen, playoff start. 
We'll do a lot of Knicks stuff, 

780
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,960
obviously coming up a lot of NBA
playoffs here. 

781
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,920
I can't wait. 
I do like the way the Knicks 

782
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,080
finished the season, even 
though, you know, they rested 

783
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,800
guys that last game, whatever, 
but you know, the pick and roll 

784
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,560
and and I think that you know, 
OG getting healthy, having some 

785
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,880
time off his ankle. 
A very curious and excited and 

786
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,920
and also a little skeptical to 
to see what the Knicks do. 

787
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,840
But there's no denying that the 
Knicks are good, that the Knicks

788
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,120
are top five team. 
Everybody knows that. 

789
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,960
And now you don't hear one 
person complain about James 

790
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,840
Dolan. 
I I got to be honest with you in

791
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,680
the not that anybody would have 
really done it when Tiki and I 

792
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,480
were doing the national stuff in
the three years that I was on 

793
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,240
the fan, almost just about 3 
years. 

794
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,280
I don't we didn't take one 
negative James Dolan call if I 

795
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:10,680
had a penny for every you know 
Woody Johnson slight or dis 

796
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:15,360
tweet on air comment call, you 
know I mean we. 

797
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,160
Here's the question. 
So like, if Mooji can pull 

798
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:25,160
things together, do you think 
maybe Woody a little bit of 

799
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,880
slack? 
Do you think you. 

800
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,240
Yeah, potentially. 
Sure. 

801
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,000
I mean think because James Dolan
did. 

802
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,160
And again, I don't think what 
he's like. 

803
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,920
If you look at Dolan and you 
look at Woody and take Dolan at 

804
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:42,280
the height of his idiocy and 
Woody now, which is the height 

805
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,600
of his whatever any it. 
Is the height of idiocy as a 

806
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,240
word, yeah. 
Yeah, I do think they're 

807
00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:52,080
different in this regard. 
But just to answer you directly,

808
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,640
I mean, if The Jets start 
cooking and Mooji eventually 

809
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,520
finds a quarterback, that that 
vitriol, that energy that's 

810
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,160
that's shifted, you know, the 
last four or five years, because

811
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,600
for The Jets, it was always Jets
are going to jet. 

812
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,680
Jets are a joke. 
Jets are a punchline. 

813
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,000
Really the last four 5-6 years 
and and I've been I've been I 

814
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,640
don't want to say that I led the
charges. 

815
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,520
I don't want to be that, you 
know, that egotistical, but I I 

816
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,200
can tell you I was on the front 
lines, man. 

817
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,680
I don't know if I was the first 
guy carrying the rifle, but I 

818
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,600
might have been because I'm like
that dude's the problem that 

819
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,520
there's got to be a correlation.
At some point. 

820
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,880
You find any shitty team, you 
know, whether it's just teams 

821
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,920
that can't figure it out. 
Sacramento Kings, the old 

822
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,440
Knicks, the Cleveland Browns, 
you know, you know, the dorm, 

823
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,040
the Cardinals, like the the 
Lions up until this recent 

824
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,800
renaissance here. 
Like though, they always seem to

825
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,040
make the mistakes. 
They reach for quarterbacks when

826
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,400
they fire people incessantly. 
And there's never any stability,

827
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,880
right? 
So there's always some some 

828
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,360
common traits for for poorly run
franchises. 

829
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,600
But The thing is, and I do think
there's one difference, though, 

830
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,640
between Dolman and Woody, which 
I'll tell you in a minute. 

831
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,960
But yes, if The Jets get their 
act together, I'm not saying 

832
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,000
people will praise Woody. 
They'll just ignore them. 

833
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,880
And then they'll praise Muji and
Glenn. 

834
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,800
And if, you know, if Glenn's 
still here, and then from a 

835
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,640
football point of view, those 
guys will receive the accolades 

836
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,080
and rightfully so. 
The difference though, and this 

837
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,480
is I think what really worries 
me about Woody Johnson. 

838
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,720
Bigger picture than any other 
New York GM, more than Dolan 

839
00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:24,560
with both teams, you know, 
certainly more than Cohen. 

840
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,000
More than how. 
How doesn't worry how just 

841
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,960
frustrates me a little bit with 
his patience. 

842
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,080
He doesn't worry me. 
You know, Giants ownership has 

843
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,640
been knocked around lately and 
and praying for Mr. Mayor. 

844
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,000
I haven't read much about him. 
John Mara battling cancer. 

845
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,000
Hopefully he's doing well. 
A good man, really good man. 

846
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,080
And and the Mara, you know, 
family is just one of the great 

847
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,360
stewards of the NFL. 
But the The thing is, I think 

848
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,280
the difference between Woody, I 
think that and this scares me. 

849
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,440
And this what really problem 
number one with The Jets for me.

850
00:39:57,240 --> 00:40:00,200
I think he's one of these dudes,
unlike Dolan, like Dolan sits 

851
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:02,520
there in the front row, you 
know, kind of like schlump like 

852
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,560
this. 
And that was a horrendous image 

853
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,280
when they stunk because he was 
just slumped over on the under 

854
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,560
the baseline. 
Like, dude, just can you project

855
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,440
a little interest in the team? 
Can you project a little 

856
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,680
happiness, a little hope instead
of this negative vibe that just 

857
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,400
resonates out of every poor or 
oozes out of every poor. 

858
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,160
What is different in this 
regard? 

859
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,160
I think. 
That Woody's one of those dudes.

860
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,320
When things start going well, I 
think Woody is going to want to 

861
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,440
get some credit. 
And I think Woody, I think he's 

862
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,080
got that demeanor. 
Not that he's like volatile or 

863
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,600
crazy unpredictable, like George
back of the day or, you know, 

864
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,800
Dolan early on, like, you know, 
petulant. 

865
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,320
Yeah, he's a little petulant, 
but petulant like Dolan is worst

866
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,680
moment. 
I think Woody's a glory hound. 

867
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,440
I think Woody's a bit of a jock 
sniffer. 

868
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,520
And I think that Woody needs to 
be involved in any renaissance 

869
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,480
stabilization of The Jets. 
I think that Woody's going to 

870
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,680
try to insert himself into the 
equation. 

871
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,120
And my biggest fear because 
eventually The Jets will stumble

872
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,200
upon success. 
Eventually. 

873
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,200
The Jets and all these teams, 
the Browns, the Cards, man, the 

874
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,240
Carders weren't a Super Bowl, 
you know, back in the day. 

875
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,360
I mean, it's certainly in my 
lifetime, within the last 2015 

876
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,080
years, whatever it was. 
So I think inside of that either

877
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:18,520
way, I think that if The Jets 
get going, I think I could see 

878
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,240
Woody having a power struggle 
with either Mooji or somebody 

879
00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:24,920
else. 
And he wants to, he wants to, 

880
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,720
you know, that he wants to cred 
and he fires somebody because he

881
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:32,200
feels like he's not getting the 
credit when in reality, he did 

882
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,960
nothing but cut checks. 
All right? 

883
00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:35,840
That's what worries me about 
him. 

884
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,080
John Marrick. 
I'd have no worries about that 

885
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,960
with John. 
That's why the Giants are 

886
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,120
different than The Jets. 
John Mayer. 

887
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,840
Now again, they've had a very 
you know, and Tisha has some 

888
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,120
other issues when they've had a 
very rough Rd. recently, you 

889
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:50,520
know, firing coaches, blah, 
blah, blah. 

890
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,680
But John Mayer is the kind of 
stable person where now that 

891
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,120
it's Horbaugh show, all right, 
go get him coach. 

892
00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:59,920
You know, I'm here. 
I'm here if you need me. 

893
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,120
I don't think Woody's capable 
of. 

894
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:07,480
I hope I'm wrong, you know, but.
Here's a little just follow up 

895
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,760
from MO Cage. 
When my dad moved us from Syria 

896
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,800
to New Jersey in the late 90s, 
he left us to pick our fandom. 

897
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,400
My brothers went with Jets 
because of my cousins but IA 9 

898
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,440
year old went giants like my 
dad. 

899
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,880
Best decision ever. 
That's a good decision, man. 

900
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,960
That is a very good. 
I'd like to know how old he is. 

901
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,400
I don't know if it's the best. 
I mean, he could have been a 

902
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,440
Pats fan. 
He could have been, you know, 

903
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,880
other teams that win more. 
But point being, based on the 

904
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,560
the the New York football 
pecking order. 

905
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,280
No, I mean, I I made the mistake
like an idiot and I don't even 

906
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,400
know why. 
Well, I do, but like there was 

907
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,360
no real reason for me to become 
a Jets fan. 

908
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,560
Like The Jets weren't shoved 
down my throat like my dad by my

909
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,560
dad. 
You know, he big baseball guy, 

910
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,680
big basketball fan, big golf 
fan, loves, you know, loves 

911
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,080
football and for years would bet
football. 

912
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,160
Yeah, I remember, like, seeing, 
because I would always read the 

913
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,920
papers, even when I was young. 
I remember seeing, like, the 

914
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,080
Daily News. 
And he would have like, you 

915
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:04,520
know, Giant 49ers if Dallas, 
like, he'd have his reverses 

916
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:05,960
going. 
And back then he'd have to call.

917
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,640
He had a secret code name. 
You got to put the bets in that 

918
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:08,920
way. 
Yeah. 

919
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,280
No, for sure. 
So he watched football every 

920
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,080
single Sunday all day while my 
mom was making the, you know, 

921
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,400
the meatballs and everything, 
but. 

922
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,680
And I was down in the basement 
with him. 

923
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,400
But it wasn't like he. 
He never once had a jet shirt, 

924
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,200
never unless I got him one, 
never once had a Giants hat. 

925
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,840
It was just, you know, football.
And he wanted both teams to do 

926
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,720
well because he wanted that 
storyline to go into the 

927
00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:28,800
postseason, right, the playoffs 
for The Jets and the Giants. 

928
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,840
There was not there wasn't an 
uncle, not an older brother. 

929
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:37,080
There was 00 gravitational pull 
on my to pull me in as a Jet 

930
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,920
fan, I had no excuse except that
I'm a loser. 

931
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,680
No, I. 
Mean listen, that was that was 

932
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,120
your calling your your calling 
was to be a Jets fan. 

933
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,000
Think about this. 
If I didn't, If I wasn't a Jets 

934
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,080
fan, I wouldn't have been able 
to do the whole we are 

935
00:43:54,080 --> 00:44:00,000
unkillable speech. 
And I don't know about that if 

936
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,600
you weren't a. 
Jets fan, I wouldn't. 

937
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,120
Be on. 
I wouldn't be on planet Earth. 

938
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,120
I wouldn't be doing no no. 
I don't know about that. 

939
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,960
I I just think, I just think, I 
think that's like an essential. 

940
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,280
I think that's like an essential
butterfly in this in this 

941
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,080
pattern, here, in this chain. 
Look at, look at. 

942
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,200
You very poetic today, Jay. 
I hear you. 

943
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,360
What else we got here? 
All right, so did I, I thought I

944
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:21,960
was going to get to the 
rock'n'roll stuff a little bit 

945
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,200
later, but yeah, I I understand 
it, but it's just way, way too 

946
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,120
confusing. 
I mean, the the checkpoints to 

947
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,400
get in. 
I I don't, I don't know how The 

948
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:31,920
Black Crowes aren't in. 
I I don't get it. 

949
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,160
Lauren Hill's not in. 
Pink's not in New editions, not 

950
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,960
in. 
I mean, Iron Maiden finally got 

951
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,120
in. 
What are we doing here, man? 

952
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,560
Motorhead's not in. 
Finn Lizzy's not in. 

953
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,400
Nas is not in. 
What are we doing? 

954
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,040
That's what I read this morning.
Yeah, I believe he's been 

955
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,680
rejected. 
I believe, and I read it quick, 

956
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,160
that a lot of different bands, I
was trying to get the whole 

957
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,000
cross section, you know, rock 
and rap and whatever. 

958
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,240
If there was some disco bands 
from the 70s, whatever. 

959
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:00,560
I, I, I thought I read very 
quickly that Nas has been 

960
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,360
rejected. 
He, he's been up for nomination 

961
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,440
I want to say either 8 or 9 
times and he's old for 8:00 or 

962
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:07,680
old for 9:00. 
What are we doing? 

963
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,440
It's Nas the greatest. 
Rap album of all time I forgot 

964
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,880
about. 
That not for me. 

965
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:19,760
Is that for you Top? 
Three top top 3, not 3, probably

966
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,120
not one, it's probably 2. 
And then what would? 

967
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,480
Number one be so with Jay-Z we 
go Lord forgive me the. 

968
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,240
College Dropout by Kanye West 
Kanye. 

969
00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:29,800
Wow. 
He, I mean, he's, he's. 

970
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,360
My guy through and through I 
got. 

971
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,000
Still, even even crazy Kanye. 
I got you. 

972
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:35,720
No, you're gonna roll with your 
dog, man. 

973
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,440
Don't abandoned Kanye just 
because society says that you 

974
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,800
should have some scruples. 
Have a backbone. 

975
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,000
There you go. 
I like Conway. 

976
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,400
Conway, You like Conway? 
You like Con Kanye? 

977
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,400
You like him? 
You know, I love them. 

978
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:47,960
I'm a big fan. 
I've never. 

979
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,720
Downloaded a Kanye West song and
there's a couple that like if I 

980
00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:53,880
hear I'm like that's an old I 
was going back in the day. 

981
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,840
Never downloaded one Kanye song.
If I was to, I mean, I, I got to

982
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,440
always Beastie Boys are always, 
I mean that's, that's like my 

983
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,520
Babe Ruth, like Beastie Boys, 
you know, a license to I'll 

984
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:06,800
drop. 
That was in the 7th grade. 

985
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,200
I had the cassette. 
I mean, come on, I was banging 

986
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,600
it ever rhyming and stealing. 
Oh my God, I was. 

987
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:12,760
Listening over. 
Fear. 

988
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,040
Were you really? 
Yeah, of. 

989
00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:18,320
Course, man, of course. 
BC boys are still in the 

990
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,400
rotation. 
Yeah, you know, shake your rump.

991
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,080
I love that song. 
OK? 

992
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,840
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
If I don't, but I don't I can't 

993
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,720
count the boys because they're 
just different. 

994
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,720
If I had to pick, this is going 
to get me in troubles in East 

995
00:46:31,720 --> 00:46:33,080
Coast, you know, New York City 
guy. 

996
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,240
I honestly there there was just 
something about Snoop and Drake 

997
00:46:37,240 --> 00:46:40,280
where I'm like, yo, this is this
is insane. 

998
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,960
I mean, got to get yourself the 
chronic. 

999
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,200
I mean. 
Musically, I think he was just 

1000
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,560
on a doctor. 
Dre is just on a different level

1001
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,760
than most other people. 
Like instrumentally, you know, 

1002
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,960
just beat wise, he's the best. 
That's right, I know. 

1003
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,840
He obviously, you know, he he 
took Eminem and he and he and he

1004
00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:03,160
and Eminem was with D12, I 
believe before that right back 

1005
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,640
in the day with D12. 
But the Dre like I don't know 

1006
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,240
any D12 hits. 
I I just don't. 

1007
00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:10,840
So there's. 
There's one song, they have one,

1008
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,240
It's called My Band. 
It's a pretty, it's like a very 

1009
00:47:13,240 --> 00:47:16,640
Eminem, tongue in cheek song 
about how he's like the lead 

1010
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,160
singer of his band and all his 
bandmates hate him. 

1011
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,720
It's a funny, Yeah, it's a, it's
a good one is. 

1012
00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:24,400
Is he still friends with any of 
those guys? 

1013
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,240
They're all I'd assume, yeah. 
Yeah, they're all from Detroit. 

1014
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,040
I'd assume they're still 
buddies. 

1015
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,040
Wow. 
All right, Yeah. 

1016
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,400
But I mean, to me when first, 
when it was obviously the 

1017
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,320
chronic and doggy style, I just 
couldn't get enough of that. 

1018
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,240
Like that was on loop. 
I told you we would play. 

1019
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,840
We would play doggy style. 
Me and my buddy Dan, before 

1020
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,000
this, when we lived off campus 
in college, before we go out, 

1021
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,520
that's what we would play, you 
know, and he was, you know, Dan 

1022
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:50,960
loves his weed still to this 
point. 

1023
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,320
You know and. 
Even then, even as an athlete, 

1024
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,640
like he just, he's the kind of 
guy that can, you know, smoke 

1025
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,600
something and just walk into a 
boardroom and you would never 

1026
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,280
know. 
Like you would never know. 

1027
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,360
Like he is a he plays golf, he 
hits at 300 yards and you know, 

1028
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,920
he's doing whatever he's doing 
on the side. 

1029
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,360
He's one of those guys. 
But so he actually introduced me

1030
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,480
to some of that. 
Like he didn't introduce me to 

1031
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,520
Led Zepp, but he got me to Pink 
Floyd and I love Floyd. 

1032
00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:17,720
Roger Waters is nuts, but I but 
I love Pink Floyd and and I got 

1033
00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:20,000
him into that stuff like, you 
know, even though those guys are

1034
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,600
from the West Coast, but because
he's a Rockland County, a little

1035
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,240
bit of an upstate guy. 
So he wasn't listening to what I

1036
00:48:25,240 --> 00:48:27,600
was listening to in Brooklyn and
I wasn't listening to what he 

1037
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,680
was listening to in the burbs. 
That was cool. 

1038
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,920
So, and he had this great old 
system that we're talking, you 

1039
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,480
know, basically mid 90s 
basically. 

1040
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,240
And we would just crank that up 
before, you know, you, you 

1041
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,920
taking the shower, you getting 
the, the button down shirt on, 

1042
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,600
you go to the bar, you get the 
hat and you would just hear and 

1043
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,480
it had a good base. 
So you would just hear it 

1044
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,280
reverberating throughout our 
entire bar I. 

1045
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,360
Wish our generation grew up with
like sound systems. 

1046
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,520
It's like how we listen to music
because it's like it's all just 

1047
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,560
been like the small speakers or 
the phones. 

1048
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:59,240
Also just quick side funny dog 
doggy style story. 

1049
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:04,880
When I was like a child, like 
7-8, my dad would like play that

1050
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,680
album and like N.W.A Straight 
Outta Compton for me and 

1051
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,280
Compton. 
And it would, I remember I would

1052
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,200
cry like it would scare me 
because it would He was just 

1053
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,640
like, he was like swearing so 
much. 

1054
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,880
I thought it was just like, I 
thought it was like evil music. 

1055
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,520
Like I thought it was like, like
just like bad person stuff. 

1056
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:24,800
And I would be like, turn it 
off. 

1057
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,680
I. 
Still, it's funny that you say 

1058
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,640
that because like I would, I 
would never play that in front 

1059
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:34,200
of my daughter and I don't even 
never never literally 0 out of 0

1060
00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:39,080
time that will not happen. 
And I, I, I don't even really, I

1061
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,160
don't like proactively put it on
and I'm in the car more with my 

1062
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,840
son because just a lot of long 
drives, baseball, whatever and 

1063
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,680
I'll put on. 
Actually. 

1064
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,440
Metaphor my, my serious 
subscription just ran out and I,

1065
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,680
I love bouncing around like 
whether it's yacht rock or like 

1066
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,080
seventies, 80s. 
I mean, I hit the whole spiel 

1067
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,840
right. 
So I like to do that on these 

1068
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,720
long drives for, for baseball. 
So right now without that I, I 

1069
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:04,680
do, I really like it. 
I've got to renew it. 

1070
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,040
I'll put on like 104.3 classic 
rock and stuff like that. 

1071
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,480
And sometimes I put sports on 
the cartoon, usually not, and 

1072
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,640
not just because I'm not there 
anymore, just because I even 

1073
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,040
when I was there, I didn't 
really listen to it that much. 

1074
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:17,320
You know, I want to kind of 
decompress. 

1075
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:22,320
But like if I do put on from my 
phone and you know it, it's 

1076
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,520
wildly eclectic. 
You could go from Billy Joel to,

1077
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,760
you know, to Snoop to the stones
to some cheesy grease music to 

1078
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,520
Pink Floyd to Eminem to like, 
it's just all over the map, bro.

1079
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,000
And like even when one of those 
song ACDC, when one of those 

1080
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,000
songs comes up, like and I hear 
a couple because it's the non 

1081
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,280
edited stuff and I hear a couple
of I'll just kind of peer 

1082
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,360
through the rear view and I'm 
like, is he? 

1083
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,200
Is he understanding what's being
said here? 

1084
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,360
It's always how old is he? 
He just. 

1085
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,160
Turned 11 earlier he's. 
Understanding. 

1086
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,040
I know he's got it. 
That's too funny. 

1087
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,200
A little bit more. 
Than I want him to, but you know

1088
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:56,920
you can't shield them from that 
stuff forever. 

1089
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,960
All right, get some of those 
more get some more of those 

1090
00:50:59,960 --> 00:51:03,240
texts up there. 
J Rod, my guy told you about the

1091
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,200
The Jets collective episode #4 
tomorrow night, myself and Jake 

1092
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,160
and Rich. 
You don't have to put it up. 

1093
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:10,920
You're good man. 
Jake and Rich and and myself. 

1094
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,040
Episode 4 at 7:00 tomorrow. 
Last week was pretty much all 

1095
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:15,840
draft stuff. 
Tomorrow will be all draft 

1096
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,440
stuff. 
And it leads us into this. 

1097
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,520
So MO is popping back in. 
Thank you MO, you have a Super 

1098
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,640
Bowl show for, for the draft 
like others. 

1099
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,920
OK, I told you there's, there's 
some business elements that are 

1100
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,840
still not yet fully buttoned up.
I don't know if they'll come to 

1101
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,120
fruition. 
I hope they do. 

1102
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:37,520
If they do, then I will be doing
something that would be separate

1103
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,960
from this. 
If, if they don't, then I got to

1104
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,920
go live during the draft. 
I, we absolutely have to go live

1105
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,960
and we will go live. 
And you know, get yourself a 

1106
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,880
nice little pour, get yourself a
nice little whatever it is to 

1107
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,560
kick back and relax. 
And I'm in my Home Office and 

1108
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,400
boom, pop on the TV. 
Obviously you got to, you know, 

1109
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,920
you can't play it because you're
a trademark and copyrights and 

1110
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,840
all that stuff. 
But yeah, I mean, how do you not

1111
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,360
how do you not, you know, so 
I'm, I'm going to do that. 

1112
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,960
I'm going to do something. 
That's the long answer. 

1113
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,200
So I appreciate you asking 
there. 

1114
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:12,000
Oh, by the way, Jay Gio will be 
happy about this. 

1115
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,480
The the. 
Old the. 

1116
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:14,760
Glare. 
Oh. 

1117
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,440
There we go. 
Should be gone. 

1118
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,920
Today by guys coming today it 
took a while to make and they've

1119
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,920
been busting hump and busting 
ass. 

1120
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,440
Dude took a while to make this, 
but if you could just get the 

1121
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,880
full screen up, so where the 
right underneath the B and the E

1122
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,920
that's obviously illuminated 
this guy right over here, you 

1123
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,320
know that's going to be gone. 
You can. 

1124
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,320
This is one of my windows here. 
I mean, you can see the window 

1125
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,000
there and even where it's a 
little bit lighter on that side,

1126
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,640
just kind of like the remnants 
of light. 

1127
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,920
It'll be like a matte finish and
and then I I might mess around 

1128
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,920
with a few other things too, 
whether it's the book show you 

1129
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,160
said you liked, I like. 
The bookshelf. 

1130
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,000
I like the bookshelf element, 
yeah. 

1131
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,120
You said that I did that with 
Stephen A and you guys, if you 

1132
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,440
guys missed the combo with Steve
couple of weeks back, go check 

1133
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:58,840
it out. 
He was for not two hours, me and

1134
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,120
Steve just just cutting it up. 
It's got The Jets helmet there. 

1135
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,160
I got some cool, got the Emmy, 
got some cool stuff, got a, you 

1136
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:09,760
know, world map photo behind me.
Yeah, I, I, I, I got to find a 

1137
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:10,760
way to incorporate some new 
stuff. 

1138
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,240
So we are working on that. 
So. 

1139
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,080
But at least the mat will that 
glare because, you know, like a 

1140
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,320
good put the eye black on soon, 
as I've said jokingly. 

1141
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,800
Now let me get to get to the 
Mets here. 

1142
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,920
Oh, my God, the Mets. 
You got three hits last night. 

1143
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:31,440
My good God, the Mets. 
Now Mendoza's got problems, 

1144
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,280
whether it's right or wrong, 
it's unavoidable. 

1145
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:38,000
Carlos Mendoza has issues. 
And if they're not resolved 

1146
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,440
soon, he's going to get fired. 
He's going to lose his job. 

1147
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,520
And at that point, it would be 
pretty hard to defend because it

1148
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,600
would be in line with what I've 
said for a couple of months now.

1149
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,480
So certainly wouldn't disagree 
with it. 

1150
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,440
And you don't want to see 
anybody lose their job. 

1151
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,600
Trust me, I went through it. 
It's it's it's not fun, you 

1152
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,800
know, and I'm sensitive to that.
I truly do. 

1153
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,760
I don't, I don't want to be 
cavalier with I'll fire this 

1154
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,400
guy, get rid of that guy. 
They they expire him. 

1155
00:54:03,720 --> 00:54:06,320
Like I always try to plot it out
and, and really give a real 

1156
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,040
sense of what's fair and what's 
not. 

1157
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:13,160
And you know, and I don't mean, 
you know, if they lose tonight, 

1158
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,600
but I'm talking about like if 
this thing's not rectified and 

1159
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,760
it looks really bad out in LA 
and it's off to a wretched 

1160
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,000
start. 
Last night was basically 

1161
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,160
unwatchable, really. 
I talk about an anemic offense, 

1162
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,960
but and then it trickles into 
Chicago. 

1163
00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:29,160
You know, if this continues, 
it's going to be booze in Queens

1164
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,040
when they come back home. 
And then it might be untenable 

1165
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,760
and then Steve Cohen might might
have to react and it wouldn't 

1166
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,000
be, you know, it wouldn't be an 
over the top reaction like it 

1167
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,560
wouldn't be anything. 
That's without justification 

1168
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,000
because this is the year of 
measurement for him. 

1169
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,800
You know, 2024 was really good 
NLCS. 

1170
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:48,920
And you dive into the numbers, 
right? 

1171
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:54,240
We all know 2024 good Caveman 
knows 2024 good, 2025 bad. 

1172
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,880
You know 20/20/26 split 
difference. 

1173
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,800
No kidding, we all know that. 
But in 2025, you know they were 

1174
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,560
45 and 24 to start. 
They finished 83 wins, no 

1175
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:05,920
playoffs. 
Year one with Soto. 

1176
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,720
Awful optics, but you dig even 
deeper into it. 

1177
00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:14,320
So they were 38 and 55 after an 
outstanding start where they 

1178
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,800
were basically 2020 games above 
500. 

1179
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,400
But then you even extrapolate a 
little bit deeper and they from 

1180
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,040
August 1st on, which is when 
everything went, the pitching 

1181
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,440
broke down. 
I mean, they could, they, they 

1182
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,280
were just oh God, they were, 
they were rough to watch like 

1183
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,480
now, although they hit more, but
jeez, their pitching was 

1184
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:35,360
wretched. 21 and 32 from August 
1st on. 

1185
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,960
So this is now a continuation, 
and that's a big problem for 

1186
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,200
Mendoza. 
It's a continuation of 

1187
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:47,400
lackluster, uninspired, you 
know, unbuttoned up, if you will

1188
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,000
play. 
They're 7 and 10 now. 

1189
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,960
All right, so the August swoon, 
a rough start. 

1190
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,160
And think about this. 
You know, Adam Ottavino, who 

1191
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:57,600
bounced around baseball quite a 
bit. 

1192
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:02,120
No good pitcher. 
He destroyed Mendoza on his 

1193
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,600
podcast this was last year where
he basically said Mendy has no 

1194
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,640
idea how to use a bullpen really
went in on him. 

1195
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,320
You know, the Mets don't care. 
Mendoza doesn't care. 

1196
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:14,040
Just uses these guys too much 
and he doesn't he's got no feel 

1197
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,760
for, you know, when a guy needs 
a day off and he's just a little

1198
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,560
bit cavalier. 
I'll use that word again. 

1199
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,720
Cavalier running guys out there 
when they probably just need to 

1200
00:56:21,720 --> 00:56:24,120
sit and just kind of regenerate 
then come back the next night. 

1201
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,160
So there's a lot of smoke around
this team right now and they 

1202
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:31,600
don't seem like they have the 
the like, I don't know, it 

1203
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,840
doesn't seem and and you need 
Soto back before you make any 

1204
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,280
ultimate decision. 
And I want to grant Mendoza that

1205
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,720
that runway, you know, it's, you
know, because this is also a 

1206
00:56:41,720 --> 00:56:45,600
Stearns issue, guys, this is not
just about the manager. 

1207
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,600
I mean, the Mets took a Wrecking
Ball to their roster, which I 

1208
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,640
believe was the right move. 
And I've said that, but it's one

1209
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,800
thing for me to think it I'm not
the GM. 

1210
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,720
And then when you execute it, 
you know, and you let Pete walk 

1211
00:56:58,720 --> 00:57:01,320
and you ship out Nemo, who by 
the way, looks fantastic for the

1212
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,520
Texas Rangers right now. 
He's hitting the heck out of it.

1213
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,000
You know, you messed up the the 
Daniel Diaz blue was saved the 

1214
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,560
other night, but you messed up 
the Diaz stuff and for what, 

1215
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,720
three more $1,000,000? 
You really didn't give him a 

1216
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:14,880
chance to come back and maybe 
accept your offer. 

1217
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,480
So from a critical point of 
view, just the business aspect 

1218
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,520
that looks sloppy. 
It looked a little disjointed, 

1219
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,200
you know, and then they they 
broke up the core, which again, 

1220
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,560
I thought that they had to. 
But again, my job is to talk 

1221
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,440
about sports, OK, and create 
content and create compelling 

1222
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,640
stuff. 
My job is not to structure a 

1223
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,680
roster for the Mets so you know,
whether they win 109 games and 

1224
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,640
win the World Series or, you 
know, win 83 games again and 

1225
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,800
failed to make the playoffs 
again with set with Soto here 

1226
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,160
year, really it's no sweat off 
my back. 

1227
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,200
I'd like to see the Mets be good
because it's better for 

1228
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,000
business. 
It's fun when the Yankees and 

1229
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,000
the Mets are both really, really
good and really, really viable 

1230
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:59,120
because it keeps in play the 
possibility which we never get. 

1231
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,080
Although let's face it, the one 
time we did get it last, we all 

1232
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,240
know who won that will be the 
Yankees, the 2000 Subway Series.

1233
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,480
Like I I, you know, I'm not a 
met hater. 

1234
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,040
I know some of you think that I 
am a bot. 

1235
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,840
I'm a baseball observer who 
happens to be a Yankee fan who 

1236
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,360
crushes the Yankees when it's, 
you know, necessary cash men 

1237
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,920
Target 1, you know, and all the 
other issues with the Yankees 

1238
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,920
who I'll get to in a minute, 
even though they won last night.

1239
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,120
I just don't know how long this 
is going to go on. 

1240
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,080
I, I really, really don't. 
He signed. 

1241
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:32,240
It was a three-year deal and 
this is year 32027's A-Team 

1242
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,520
option. 
So there's no nothing Cohen 

1243
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:38,240
cares about money. 
There's no monetary connection. 

1244
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,240
There's no like financial 
impediment. 

1245
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,960
Like, wow, we just gave him a 
three-year extension. 

1246
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,640
All right, let's give him a rope
here. 

1247
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,360
You better fix this man. 
Now, the good thing is there's a

1248
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:51,360
lot of teams in baseball that 
are very I noticed this last 

1249
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,600
night. 
Like nobody's running away with 

1250
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,400
anything. 
Like obviously the Dodgers are 

1251
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,920
phenomenal, but you look around 
baseball, every division is 

1252
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,840
really, really crowded. 
So when the Yankees trying to 

1253
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,800
figure things out with their 
hitting, when the Mets try to 

1254
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,720
figure things out with basically
everything, you got a lot of to 

1255
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:09,720
think about this guys the 
American League East right now, 

1256
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:14,120
Baltimores 9 and seven Yanks are
nine and seven, Razor 8 and 7. 

1257
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,320
Blue Jays are look a little, you
know, under at 6:00 and 9:00 and

1258
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,800
and the Red Sox, even with that 
good pitching, are 6 and 10, 

1259
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,920
right? 
So to me, that's the best 

1260
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,880
division in baseball. 
And I I think it will still be 

1261
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,120
that way. 
But it's all said and done very 

1262
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,200
bunched together. 
Nobody's running away. 

1263
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,160
So no real pressure right there,
even if the optics aren't good. 

1264
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,920
And during the five game losing 
streak, they weren't for the 

1265
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,240
Yankees to get to the Central. 
I mean, the Twins, I don't think

1266
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:40,680
they stay there, that's for 
sure. 

1267
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,400
They lead the way with the 
Guardians. 

1268
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,160
Guardians are good, 10 and seven
each, right? 

1269
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,880
You know, Royals 7 and 9, Tigers
7 and 9, White Sox 6 and 10 

1270
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,760
Jumbled. 
Now you get to the West. 

1271
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,160
The Rangers with memo nine and 
seven. 

1272
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,480
The A's are 8 and eight. 
You know the Angels last night, 

1273
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:57,840
they could easily beat the 
Yankees. 

1274
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,800
They're 8 and 9. 
Seattle, 8:00 and 9:00, and the 

1275
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,120
Astros are 6:00 and 11:00. 
Every team. 

1276
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,000
In the American League is within
a game or two of each other. 

1277
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,640
It's insane. 
Then you get to the Mets 

1278
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:11,040
division now, All right, so the 
Braves have played 17 games. 

1279
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,480
If the Braves are like 13 and 
4:12 and 5:00, this would look a

1280
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,400
little different. 
It would feel a little 

1281
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,200
different. 
They're not pulling away yet. 

1282
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:19,680
Now they might. 
They got a really good team. 

1283
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,320
I like the Braves. 
I think the Braves probably, you

1284
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:23,960
know, they're pitching some 
injuries. 

1285
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,480
I I think the Braves are, well, 
yeah, I don't know if I'm going 

1286
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:27,800
to just say that they're the 
best team. 

1287
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,400
Phillies are good. 
Mets have, you know, I I don't 

1288
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,200
know, it's close, right? 
But the Braves are 10 and 7. 

1289
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,960
The Marlins are 9:00 and 8:00. 
You got the Phillies at 8:00 and

1290
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:37,840
8:00. 
Mets 7 and 10 behind. 

1291
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,160
The Mets are in last place. 
And then again, you know, 

1292
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,720
Pirates 10 and six, and they got
9 and 78 and 7-8 and eight, 

1293
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:47,040
seven and nine in succession. 
Reds, Brewers, Cardinals, 

1294
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,600
Cubbies. 
The only team that's rocking the

1295
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,040
Dodgers, who are 12 and 4. 
Padres look good after a really 

1296
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,600
slow start. 
They've actually cranked things 

1297
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,480
up. 
San Diego's ten and six 

1298
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,280
Diamondbacks got some good 
players. 

1299
01:00:58,280 --> 01:00:59,960
Obviously. 
Corbin Carroll's a young star. 

1300
01:00:59,960 --> 01:01:02,280
We know that. 
They're nine and eight. 

1301
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,560
The Giants can't hit. 
We saw the Yankees open up with 

1302
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:05,960
them 6 and 10. 
They stink. 

1303
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,080
And the Rockies, who are awful, 
they're even 6 and 10. 

1304
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:14,920
So the pressure is not there. 
Like the immediate pressure is 

1305
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,640
not there. 
But that only lasts for so long.

1306
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:23,960
And it is going to be incredibly
interesting to get a real read 

1307
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,480
on Cohen and his lack of 
tolerance for being embarrassed.

1308
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:33,200
Because Steve Cohen, I don't 
care if he's got $15 billion net

1309
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,400
worth, which I believe he might 
even be higher by now. 

1310
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,000
I think it's 15. 
But in the neighborhood, I don't

1311
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:42,440
care if you got $100 billion, 
the money stuff is 1 aspect of 

1312
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,320
it. 
And even with all that money, 

1313
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,880
when you're that affluent, you 
don't want to lose money. 

1314
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,840
You don't want to flush money 
down the chute because the 

1315
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:54,840
reason you got to that point is 
through savvy investing acumen, 

1316
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,080
you know what I mean? 
Or unless you were born into it,

1317
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,000
you know, like some others. 
But I'm not talking about that. 

1318
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,240
Somehow for the most part, 
self-made people, right? 

1319
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:03,560
And you take great pride in 
that. 

1320
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:08,640
And when you cut big checks, as 
Steve Cohen does, and your team 

1321
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:13,840
looks listless and disconnected 
and not mentally engaged, you're

1322
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,480
not putting up with it for a 
whole lot longer. 

1323
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:19,240
You just not, you know, so the 
stuff with Pete, all right, 30 

1324
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,960
years old, righty, righty first 
baseman, not a good athlete. 

1325
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:24,760
How's he going to age? 
All right, That was baseball 

1326
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:28,000
stuff. 
Nimmo, weak arm, some injuries 

1327
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,040
the last couple of years, lower 
extremities, right? 

1328
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:33,880
He's had some of those issues on
base percentage for Nimmo last 

1329
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:37,080
couple of years incrementally, 
you know, shrunk by year going 

1330
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,480
in the wrong direction. 
You know the Diaz thing I 

1331
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,840
mentioned, but then there was 
also the thought was it was it 

1332
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:43,400
politically fueled? 
I don't know. 

1333
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,880
I mean, to be honest with you 
kind of feels that way given 

1334
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,480
Lindor situation. 
But I I don't know, I can't 

1335
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,320
prove that. 
But the point is, is that Cohen 

1336
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:55,120
is watching this and you know 
that he's pissed and he's not 

1337
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:56,800
going to tolerate it for much 
longer. 

1338
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:00,440
So it's probably be wise for 
Mendoza. 

1339
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:04,800
Not that he's not trying. 
I know that he is, but trying is

1340
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:08,040
one thing, doing is another, and
he ain't doing. 

1341
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,920
He ain't do it the end of last 
year and he's not doing this 

1342
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,280
year. 
And they brought in Correa, who 

1343
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,240
was right next to him on the 
bench for a reason. 

1344
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,520
All right? 
And they've got their next 

1345
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:21,320
Lieutenant on the bench if they 
make a move in season. 

1346
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,200
So I think Evan even said this 
yesterday. 

1347
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,720
And Evans not one to jump the 
gun, like I respect that about 

1348
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,400
Evan. 
You know, I think Evan is. 

1349
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:30,880
I didn't listen. 
He loves sports, that goes 

1350
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,280
without saying. 
But I think Evan's pretty 

1351
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,520
measured with this stuff. 
And I saw somewhere on on social

1352
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,080
media, you know, even Evan was 
saying that. 

1353
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,200
And and I agree. 
I really think that's the only 

1354
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:42,160
way to process this. 
Like you don't just get an 

1355
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,880
unlimited amount of runway to 
get your act together. 

1356
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:46,600
I mean, this is big boy 
businessman. 

1357
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,480
This isn't like low level high 
school ball where the coach 

1358
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:54,480
goes, you know, 16 and 14. 
And at the awards banquet, all 

1359
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,960
the parents are happy just 
because they had fun. 

1360
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,440
Like, you better win, man. 
You better win. 

1361
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,360
And I got to tell you this, too.
Now I get to the Yankee bullpen,

1362
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:03,800
get some more, some more of 
these chats. 

1363
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,600
The difference to me, now I know
it. 

1364
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,360
I know it drives Yankee fans 
nuts. 

1365
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,800
A lot of the things that Aaron 
Boone says, even when they're 

1366
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,200
losing, right? 
We'll get it going. 

1367
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:18,720
You know, hey, we had some good 
at bats. 

1368
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,120
We're not far away. 
This guy's a really good player.

1369
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,200
This guy's got a really good 
history. 

1370
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,160
He's done it before. 
We fully expect he's going to do

1371
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:28,880
it again. 
Like these are some of the 

1372
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,400
default things that that Boone 
reaches for. 

1373
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,160
But the difference with Boone, 
and even if that drives you 

1374
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,640
nuts, and I know it does drive 
many of you nuts, the difference

1375
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:40,000
with Aaron Boone and the 
difference to me with Mendoza 

1376
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,600
when they talk about the 
situations, when the situations 

1377
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:47,360
are not good, is that Boone's 
got a track record of figuring 

1378
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,600
things out now. 
I mean, to the point where he's 

1379
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,000
won a World Series. 
Yeah. 

1380
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,560
He's the longest tenured Yankee 
manager without a World Series. 

1381
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:55,840
Matter of fact, we were going 
to. 

1382
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,160
I told you, But my daughter had 
a softball game, and then my son

1383
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:03,520
had a hoops game, and we had to 
lead the softball game like an 

1384
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,520
inning early for me to get him 
to his basketball game. 

1385
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:09,040
But the Yankee game on right, 
her judge's home run and my son 

1386
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:10,840
asked me, he said, do you think 
Boone's going to get fired 

1387
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:14,160
because they weren't you know 
that up this before they snap 

1388
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,200
the five game skid. 
I said no, I said they're not 

1389
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:18,560
going to fire many times too. 
And I said, but I said, you 

1390
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,920
know, listen, at the end of the 
year, if it doesn't look good, I

1391
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,000
feel like this is the year that 
Boone's going to be out of a 

1392
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,160
job. 
And at that point you'd be OK 

1393
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,120
with you'd have to be. 
You know, as much as I love 

1394
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,920
Boone, I mean, you don't get 
unlimited runway like I just 

1395
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,440
said with Mendoza to win a 
championship if you're the 

1396
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,000
Yankees manager. 
And I was explaining to my son, 

1397
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,720
I said, you know, no Yankee 
manager. 

1398
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:40,560
I said, he just got his 800th 
win the other day. 

1399
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:45,160
I said, but no Yankee manager 
has had, you know, that amount 

1400
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:49,320
of wins and and that long tenure
without world's championship. 

1401
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,680
So that's, you know, that's one 
form of evaluation. 

1402
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,840
And it's obviously very, very 
different for how then from 

1403
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,240
George. 
But the point is, you know, you 

1404
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,320
can mock it. 
You know, you can talk about it.

1405
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:02,280
You know, we heard this before. 
If Boone says stuff after a 

1406
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:05,760
rough game or a bad moment or a 
guy who his head is in space, 

1407
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,240
like you'll not know the rule 
book or whatever it might be. 

1408
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:12,240
Last year in Miami when Jazz 
was, you know, doubled off 

1409
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,680
secular first. 
But like he did the the the 

1410
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,760
excuses or the 
contextualization, I think of 

1411
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,160
excuses does bother me. 
But I also understand that he's 

1412
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:22,440
just not going to railroad his 
guys. 

1413
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,600
So I don't go nuts on that 
anymore because it's not what 

1414
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,920
he's going to do. 
I believe behind closed doors 

1415
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:30,160
he's doing a little bit, but the
point also remains, you know, if

1416
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,680
you do it behind closed doors 
and you want to respect that the

1417
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:36,360
players reputation and not do it
for the entire media to react 

1418
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,520
to, if they don't adjust to what
you're saying behind closed 

1419
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,800
doors, then you might not be 
doing it well enough. 

1420
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:43,240
And that's a different 
conversation. 

1421
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,720
But I I feel different maybe 
because the Yankees have been 

1422
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:50,360
better than the Mets. 
I just feel different when Boone

1423
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,440
says what he says and when 
Mendoza says what he says. 

1424
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,400
Like I remember saying this last
year, go Google it. 

1425
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,280
Like, there's there's, you know,
YouTube videos from, you know, 

1426
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,880
the show, midday show and 
articles, whatever it might be. 

1427
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:07,000
I just don't feel like when 
Mendoza says we're going to be 

1428
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,880
good, we're going to be fine. 
I don't really feel it. 

1429
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,160
I don't really believe it. 
And it's not. 

1430
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,160
Yeah. 
It's about Mendoza, and it's 

1431
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:18,960
also a lot largely about the 
Mets lack of track record as an 

1432
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:22,960
organization, which is unfair to
fully lump that or drop that at 

1433
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:24,640
Mendoza's doorstep, which I'm 
not doing. 

1434
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:31,240
But you know, he's I think he 
says the same thing over and 

1435
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:34,120
over. 
And you know, when the message 

1436
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:38,640
is not resonating and the team 
looks sluggish and you've got a 

1437
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,840
monstrosity of a pay of a 
payroll and you've got your 

1438
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:45,160
owner like last year, imploring 
fans to show up. 

1439
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:46,920
Hey, I'm spending for you. 
Come show up. 

1440
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:48,920
I got news for you, Cohen. 
They're going to show up. 

1441
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:51,520
They're going to Boo your team 
because your team looks awful. 

1442
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,920
I mean, your team looks inept. 
The New York Mets look like a 

1443
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,120
doormat right now. 
I don't think that they'll be 

1444
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:58,360
that when it's all said and 
done. 

1445
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,360
But that's what they look like. 
So the onus isn't on me to fix 

1446
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,440
it. 
The onus is on Mendoza to get it

1447
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,200
right. 
And if he doesn't, he's out. 

1448
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,120
It's going to be that simple. 
And I don't think it's going to 

1449
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,440
last more than certainly want 
Soto back. 

1450
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,240
As I've said a few times, like 
if this is not rectified within 

1451
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,000
a month, he's gone. 
He's gone. 

1452
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,960
How do you read that at Cheryl? 
What do you got? 

1453
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:22,680
How would you, Cheryl? 
SF3Y, thank you very. 

1454
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,200
Much Beltron be great for the 
Mets, though they also now have 

1455
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,800
JD Martinez, so there's a couple
of Mendoza replacements that are

1456
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,359
easily accessible. 
Yeah. 

1457
01:08:29,359 --> 01:08:31,000
I mean, think about think about 
what the. 

1458
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,240
And I like this and I love them 
for it. 

1459
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:37,439
Think about what the Mets have 
done in the last, you know, when

1460
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,439
did JD come back? 
About a week or so ago. 

1461
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:44,120
So they are now obviously aware 
that something's awry. 

1462
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:47,160
To what extent, I don't know. 
Clubhouse relation, I don't 

1463
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:47,840
know. 
All right. 

1464
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:52,200
But they bring in JD Martinez, 
they bring back Tommy Pham, who 

1465
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,160
started last night. 
And you know, the thought is, 

1466
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:56,760
you know, he can get the 
clubhouse in order. 

1467
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:59,680
I mean, you know, with the $325 
million payroll, he shouldn't 

1468
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,479
need to bring in Tommy Pham. 
He just shouldn't need to do it.

1469
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,479
Like, if you want to start the 
season with Tommy Pham as a 

1470
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,960
fourth outfielder, pinch hitter,
good clubhouse guy, tough as 

1471
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,800
nails, no bullshit, Fine. 
I mean, a lot of teams do that. 

1472
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:13,960
That's great. 
That used to be the older model 

1473
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:17,560
back in the day when and the 
games obviously changed 

1474
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,040
economically here. 
But for a long time, those 

1475
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,560
veterans, you know, they would 
just bounce around that Chilly 

1476
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,080
Davis was actually still pretty 
viable with the Yankees. 

1477
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,439
But a guy like Chilly Davis or 
Tim Reines at the end, who is 

1478
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:33,080
also still pretty viable. 
But guys like that, you know, 

1479
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:36,600
the veterans I'm thinking about,
like I remember the 86 Mets 

1480
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,479
brought back Lee Mazzilli and 
they got rid of George Foster. 

1481
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,840
Foster was a bit of a 
malcontent, was kind of 

1482
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:43,439
chirping, whatever it was back 
then. 

1483
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,080
They brought back Maz to keep 
things fresh and he didn't play 

1484
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:48,600
that much, but to keep it 
healthy, keep it upbeat, you 

1485
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:53,200
know, And now it's really those 
last couple of the roster spots.

1486
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,160
You know, Rusty Stop is a pinch 
hitter. 

1487
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:59,680
Think about the older pinch 
hitters, Regrando Raj, Rusty, 

1488
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,720
you know, those guys would would
squeeze an extra 2-3 years, four

1489
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:07,440
years sometimes out of their 
baseball existence because there

1490
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:11,320
there was a place for them to 
land as a sage voice, as a pinch

1491
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,720
hitter and then maybe eventually
transition into a coaching role 

1492
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:19,520
right on an ancillary level. 
But now it's like all really the

1493
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:23,920
roster 20, you know, say slots 
20 through 25. 

1494
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:28,320
They're pretty much all young, 
young kids, you know, non stars.

1495
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,080
It is. 
It's a different dynamic. 

1496
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,440
So I like that they brought in 
Tommy Pham. 

1497
01:10:32,440 --> 01:10:35,560
I think Tommy Pham is a no 
nonsense, you know, MF or you 

1498
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,520
don't want to mess around with. 
And I think that they need that 

1499
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,760
little kick in the ass there. 
But should it really be 

1500
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,080
necessary at this point? 
That's my point. 

1501
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:47,240
If the leadership was where it 
was supposed to be, Lindor, if 

1502
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:50,440
the production was where it was 
supposed to be many, including 

1503
01:10:50,440 --> 01:10:53,080
Lindor, but others, you wouldn't
need Tommy Pham. 

1504
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,360
Like the Mets didn't feel like 
they needed to start the year 

1505
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,720
with Tommy Pham on the Opening 
Day roster. 

1506
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,240
So why now? 
I mean, I know Sonos hurt, so 

1507
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:02,000
maybe that's a little part of 
it. 

1508
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,320
But yeah, I don't know. 
And it is amazing. 

1509
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:09,760
I listen, I've watched baseball 
forever, if you told me and he 

1510
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,440
wasn't hurt, although, you know,
coming off the handmade injury, 

1511
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,960
all that stuff. 
It is tax day, right? 

1512
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,280
I think it's April 15th, right? 
So we did. 

1513
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,040
That was a while ago, but I 
think it's April 15th, right? 

1514
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:26,360
If you told me that like, I 
don't know, 17 games in 

1515
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:33,240
Francisco, Lindor would not have
an RBI, not an RBI, not a little

1516
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:36,000
roll over to the right side, not
a little number, not a little 

1517
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:39,080
bloop, not a SAC fly. 
Forget about a two run double 

1518
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,320
like 0. 
That is one of the most 

1519
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:46,440
astounding early season figure 
like stats that I that I've come

1520
01:11:46,440 --> 01:11:49,800
across in a long time. 
And you just look no home runs, 

1521
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,400
no RBIs. 
It is perplexing. 

1522
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,520
Now, if the hand hurts, then he 
shouldn't be playing. 

1523
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,520
And you know, yesterday I was 
all over Lindor. 

1524
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:00,920
So if you missed it, you want to
check it out, go and do it. 

1525
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:05,920
But I think that if Francisco 
Lindor, I've heard, I've heard 

1526
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:07,720
others and I've seen others now 
weighing on this. 

1527
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:12,240
Well, maybe he's feeling the 
after effects of of a concussion

1528
01:12:12,480 --> 01:12:15,840
that went undiagnosed when he 
got tagged out of the plate. 

1529
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,360
That's when remember obviously 
trying to score from first on 

1530
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:22,520
the double by one Soto late in 
that game and got thrown out 

1531
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:24,520
kind of an odd slide got hit in 
the head. 

1532
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:27,080
I mean, I hope not because 
concussions you don't mess 

1533
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,480
around with that. 
But like, I mean, it is 3 weeks 

1534
01:12:29,480 --> 01:12:31,360
ago, man. 
I mean it's basically Saint 

1535
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,280
Patty's Day like a like a week 
after that. 

1536
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,040
If it's still undiagnosed or 
there's still the remnants of a 

1537
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:40,120
concussion, well #1 Lindor's got
to say something #2 the Mets 

1538
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:41,840
medical staff needs to recognize
that. 

1539
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:45,000
So to me, and that was gaining a
lot of traction. 

1540
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:46,800
I I think evident Tekin may have
even said that yet. 

1541
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:48,840
I didn't hear it, but I saw that
on X. 

1542
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:53,680
I'm not buying that why? 
I mean, the after effects of a 

1543
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:57,480
concussion, well, a concussion 
was never even reported, so why 

1544
01:12:57,480 --> 01:12:58,640
are we going to lean on that 
now? 

1545
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:02,280
He always starts slow, Mom. 
He's had one or two good starts 

1546
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,120
with the Mets, but you know, 
basically four or five of the 

1547
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:08,360
six years he's been here have 
been very slow offensive 

1548
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:11,320
outputs. 
And to attribute it to being hit

1549
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:15,080
in the head on a plate, the 
plate for having no RBI's. 

1550
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:16,640
But I'd rather hear about the 
hand. 

1551
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:18,800
That's one thing that's going to
ZAP you of your power. 

1552
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:22,480
You know, he got a late start, 
spring training, catching up, 

1553
01:13:22,480 --> 01:13:23,640
blah, blah, blah. 
All right. 

1554
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:26,800
To me, that's a more sensible, 
viable baseball, not even 

1555
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:31,120
excuse, but context of a rough 
start by Lindor after effects, a

1556
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,520
concussion. 
What concussion did he have? 

1557
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,880
Where was the report? 
I know the Yankees messed that 

1558
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:40,840
up the dopes with with with that
situation with Rizzo a couple of

1559
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,120
years ago. 
And if that's the case, then 

1560
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:45,160
shame on the Mets and shame on 
Lindor. 

1561
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,640
You got to say something. 
You have to. 

1562
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:50,000
All right, what do we got? 
What else we got there, Jay? 

1563
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:51,840
What do we got here? 
Boone. 

1564
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:53,880
Oh, there's no question. 
Well, let's see. 

1565
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:55,880
Here, let me read the whole 
thing at Avery Summit. 

1566
01:13:56,440 --> 01:13:59,400
Boone is safer than Mendoza, not
due to performance, but because 

1567
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,320
he's more aligned than In Sync 
with cash. 

1568
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,160
But how? 
While the Mets organization 

1569
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,680
doesn't seem to be as smoothly 
aligned as such. 

1570
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,880
I think that that's fair. 
Now, is it truly aligned? 

1571
01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:12,320
Yeah, I mean it. 
But. 

1572
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,080
But is it philosophically 
aligned? 

1573
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,160
I, I do think it is. 
I do think the Yankees are, are 

1574
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:21,200
fairly philosophically aligned 
now, I'm sure like if I'm 

1575
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:24,480
sitting with Boone, you know, 
before the BT and South live 

1576
01:14:24,480 --> 01:14:27,520
show, whatever, and he knows 
there's no cameras around that 

1577
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,120
we're having a little drink, 
whatever, before we go on stage,

1578
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:33,160
which we did. 
And, you know, nobody else is 

1579
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,040
around. 
And I'm like, dude, you really 

1580
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,120
like this roster. 
I know that he espouses a lot 

1581
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,720
that he loves it. 
But like, if he was truly 

1582
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,920
honest, you know, Aaron Boone's 
a baseball man. 

1583
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:46,960
There's no way he loved the fact
that his shortstop situation is 

1584
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,520
a disaster. 
Third base is a disaster. 

1585
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:51,560
The catcher can't hit his 
second. 

1586
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:55,000
Baseman's a space cadet. 
I mean, his bullpen is in 

1587
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:56,680
shambles, which I'll get to in a
moment. 

1588
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:01,560
So I do, like, philosophically. 
Are they in alignment? 

1589
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,200
Yeah, but maybe not as much as 
you think. 

1590
01:15:04,440 --> 01:15:08,280
But consistency and familiarity 
leads to comfort. 

1591
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:12,200
So it's a relationship that has 
been very good. 

1592
01:15:12,480 --> 01:15:14,280
It just has not been great 
because there's no 

1593
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,640
championships. 
Whereas with the Mets, you know,

1594
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:20,400
you had Cohen got here 
tumultuous for, you know, not 

1595
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:22,440
his fault. 
Some of these GMs they brought 

1596
01:15:22,440 --> 01:15:25,960
in my God, wow. 
Some of the matters managers 

1597
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,200
they've I'm not talking about 
buck, but some of the recent 

1598
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,160
string of managers and some 
volatility there before buck. 

1599
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,560
All right, So but that's that's 
OK because it's new ownership 

1600
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:35,920
and you try to figure things 
out. 

1601
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:41,040
Do I think that Cohen and 
Stearns and Mendoza are aligned 

1602
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,840
as the Yankees trio? 
No, but that's only because it's

1603
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:46,520
been the last time. 
Yeah. 

1604
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:50,360
So I, I, I don't think that 
you're wrong, Avery, but I don't

1605
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:53,280
know that it's rude in anything 
other than, you know, three guys

1606
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:57,560
have worked together for, you 
know, basically a decade and Hal

1607
01:15:57,560 --> 01:15:59,680
and Cash have worked together 
forever. 

1608
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:04,000
And, you know, Cohen's a fairly 
new owner and Stearns is a, is a

1609
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,920
young general manager and 
Mendy's, you know, when he was 

1610
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:08,480
hired, he's the first, first 
year skipper. 

1611
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:13,760
You know, those things are true.
All right, So I was looking up 

1612
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:17,320
right, the Yankees bullpen and I
was trying to get a sit like, 

1613
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:21,640
you know, the Yankees bullpen. 
They've had some versions that I

1614
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,640
have not liked, obviously. 
Now that's what about the, the 

1615
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:28,720
the Mariano stuff. 
You go back to the start of the 

1616
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:33,160
dynasty and you know it was on 
lock 789. 

1617
01:16:33,440 --> 01:16:36,400
Obviously in the championship, 
Wetland was the closer. 

1618
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,880
MO was before that. 
And then when MO took over, 

1619
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,680
moving on after the 96 
championship, you know, you had 

1620
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,840
the Stanton's and the Jeff 
Nelson's and like the Mendoza, 

1621
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:50,960
Ramiro Mendoza's earlier on. 
Yanks always have a good 

1622
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:52,640
bullpen. 
And one thing that Cashman 

1623
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:56,880
really does very well is, you 
know, uncover some hidden gems 

1624
01:16:57,240 --> 01:17:02,520
and, you know, repackage and 
identify guys who were somewhere

1625
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,080
else. 
And they come here and they 

1626
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:08,120
carve out viable roles. 
But this, this Yankee bullpen, 

1627
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:11,560
this version is without 
salvation. 

1628
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:16,480
It's terrible. 
This Yankee bullpen is not not 

1629
01:17:16,480 --> 01:17:19,080
good enough. 
And I don't care what happens 

1630
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:20,520
tonight. 
I don't care what happens the 

1631
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:23,320
next month. 
I like Bednar, I do. 

1632
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,840
I know his numbers stink, but 
he's a bulldog and I do trust 

1633
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:28,800
him as much as you can. 
Somebody who's blown a couple. 

1634
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:32,440
But I just think that, you know,
outside of, you know, Moe and 

1635
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:36,560
Devin Williams before he came to
the Yankees and you know, Diaz, 

1636
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:40,160
you know, with the Mets and it's
just not many like that, that 

1637
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:43,600
it's kind of a volatile 
position, you know, So I don't 

1638
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,640
want to overreact to Bednar, 
spit in the bit a little bit 

1639
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:47,880
this year. 
I'm not really talking to him, 

1640
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,040
but that's kind of his MO. 
You know, walk a guy, you know, 

1641
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,960
dance around the strike zone, go
deep and counts, just strike 

1642
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,760
somebody out. 
There's a blue base hit first 

1643
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:58,800
and second one out. 
I got a wiggle out of it. 

1644
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,880
Then he buckles down. 
I think he's got massive guts 

1645
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,960
and I trust him. 
Like there's certain guys like 

1646
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:08,120
Devin Williams was worrying me 
last day because it's I'm like, 

1647
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:09,600
maybe this dude is not built for
New York. 

1648
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:12,080
I actually think he is because 
if he wasn't he, I don't think 

1649
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:13,400
he would have rebounded the way 
he did. 

1650
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:15,560
I think it'd be fine for the 
Mets if the Mets could ever get 

1651
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:19,960
him a freaking lead. 
But what's before Bednar is just

1652
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:23,040
unacceptably awful. 
Jake Bird already sent to the 

1653
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,880
minors. 
Now the bad news is, is that 

1654
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:30,000
it's it's it's just wretched. 
It is not even close to being 

1655
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:34,080
championship worthy. 
That's the bad slash obvious 

1656
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,960
news. 
The good news is, is that there 

1657
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:40,520
are solutions and the solutions 
are going to come when the 

1658
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:46,000
starters get healthy. 
Freed Cold, Schlittler, Roldan 

1659
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,720
All right, those in in whatever 
word you want to put those going

1660
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:52,840
to be the four right. 
And then, you know Weathers who 

1661
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:58,000
who has great stuff. 
I think Weathers, you know, he's

1662
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:01,680
probably going to stay at #5 I 
think what's going to happen, I 

1663
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:05,160
think there's going to be 3 arms
that become incredible #1 going 

1664
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,400
to make a trade like they always
do with the deadline for some 

1665
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:09,240
arm, right? 
Got a couple of young guys to 

1666
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:12,840
the Miners who throw absolute 
cheese, who I know they love and

1667
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:14,440
trust. 
So they'll be here as well. 

1668
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:16,920
So there's bad news, but I think
it's kind of overshadowed by 

1669
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:18,920
good news. 
I think this will resolve 

1670
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:20,920
itself. 
You just got to have the stomach

1671
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,760
to deal with some late 
implosions and some three hour 

1672
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,800
and 20 minute games. 
Because the bullpen stinks, as I

1673
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:28,400
said, right? 
And it's not going to get better

1674
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:30,640
starting tonight. 
It's going to get better in a 

1675
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,160
month or two or three. 
Now, I think what's going to 

1676
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:36,000
happen if I were the Yankees, I 
mean, I shouldn't say I think 

1677
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,800
this is what's going to happen. 
Here's what I would do if I was 

1678
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,680
running the Yankees. 
When those guys, when Rodan and 

1679
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:43,920
Gary Cole come back, will 
Warren's going to the bullpen? 

1680
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:48,520
Will Warren's not a starter in 
my opinion, because there's you 

1681
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,680
look up every single, will 
Warren start? 

1682
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,200
He's going to have strikeouts 
and I think he's got good stuff.

1683
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:57,240
I'm not disparaging him, but 
when I look at what he's built 

1684
01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:02,400
for, his pitch count just gets 
too high too fast. 

1685
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,840
Every single start. 
It's untenable. 

1686
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,040
So it's a problem because he 
never goes deep. 

1687
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,640
And then obviously, you know, 
you've got to bring the bullpen 

1688
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:13,320
and then now residually 
downstream, whether it's that 

1689
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:16,360
series or later that week or 
later that month or later that 

1690
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:19,320
year, you just got you got a 
world of problems because people

1691
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,080
always bail him out and and the 
prop. 

1692
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:24,080
The same thing will probably 
happen with Ryan Weathers, who 

1693
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:27,240
has more electric stuff. 
Than will war and will war again

1694
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,760
will war has good stuff lot of 
strikeouts as a rookie. 

1695
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,440
I think he may have had the most
of of any no second. 

1696
01:20:32,440 --> 01:20:34,200
I think the second most case of 
any rookie. 

1697
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:38,160
I'm not saying he's not viable. 
He's going to be on this team 

1698
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,800
and he's going to get some 
important outs, but he's not 

1699
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:42,800
going to be a starter. 
I I don't think what it's all 

1700
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,240
said and done and you've got an 
option here. 

1701
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:50,720
If two of these three guys pop 
right and they become trusted, 

1702
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:55,000
reliable, higher leverage arms, 
then the Yankees pitching staff,

1703
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,520
one through 12, whatever. 
And you'll carry the extra guy 

1704
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:59,560
once in a while here, you know, 
done 13. 

1705
01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:02,960
But I'll say one through 12, 
Yankees pitching staff has a 

1706
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:06,200
chance, like I've always said, 
to be the best in baseball. 

1707
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:10,560
Now, the rotation, absolutely. 
But how about Will Warren in the

1708
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:14,440
pen, Louise Hill in the bullpen 
and Clark Schmidt eventually in 

1709
01:21:14,440 --> 01:21:16,160
the bullpen? 
And if you want to tell me when 

1710
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:19,800
Clark Schmidt comes back, well, 
then maybe Will Warren, Louise 

1711
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:23,160
Hill, Ryan Weathers in the 
bullpen, Clark Schmidt, 5th 

1712
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:25,840
starter. 
Like there are internal options,

1713
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,440
not to mention on the trade 
market, which the Yankees will 

1714
01:21:28,440 --> 01:21:31,000
eventually tap into. 
So you just got to have the 

1715
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,040
stomach to deal with this 
nonsense every night. 

1716
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:35,080
I'll tell you though, last night
was fun number one. 

1717
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:40,000
It was fun because the Yankees 
hit and it was fun because the 

1718
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:41,880
whole Trout Judge thing was 
awesome. 

1719
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:45,560
I was telling you guys, I was 
down in Millville, NJ this 

1720
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:48,240
weekend for a baseball 
tournament, the home of Mike 

1721
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,080
Trout. 
So my son's too young. 

1722
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,760
Like, you know, he know he knows
who Mike Trout is, but he 

1723
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:54,480
doesn't know what Mike Trout 
was. 

1724
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:58,880
I'm like, dude, this he was 
basically he was this 

1725
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:04,320
generations Willie Mays early, 
like MVPMVP, second in the MVP 

1726
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:08,160
that way, just the perfect 
combination, speed, strength, 

1727
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:13,200
power, defense, 5 tool ratio, 
built like a linebacker, ran 

1728
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:17,960
like a corner, you know, hit 
like a a slugger, high average, 

1729
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,960
just unbelievable. 
So it was pretty cool. 

1730
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,720
It's since we were just down 
there and you know, I'm like you

1731
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,360
got to see, I got to show you 
some highlights of my trout like

1732
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:28,280
I'll I'll do that with I did it 
with Griffey. 

1733
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:30,680
Obviously he's you've seen a 
million Mattingly highlights, 

1734
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:34,440
but so I showed him a little 
Mike Trout montage last night. 

1735
01:22:34,440 --> 01:22:36,480
He's like, wow, he's like he 
really could run. 

1736
01:22:36,480 --> 01:22:38,720
I'm like, yeah, I mean, you 
know, I don't know what his 

1737
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,080
sixty time was, but I would have
to guess Mike Trout when he was 

1738
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:45,160
a kid, Mike Trout was running a 
6-5, maybe 6 high 64. 

1739
01:22:45,480 --> 01:22:48,760
So it was good to see a little 
bit of a throwback game for 

1740
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:52,720
Trout, who's been buried out 
there in Anaheim forever and you

1741
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:54,720
know, go deep twice. 
And how about the second home 

1742
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:59,560
run when they throw up in it? 
I love this, you know, I listen,

1743
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:03,680
I will even say this, you know, 
and you know what, when I 

1744
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,880
played, guys didn't throw up and
in much, you know, I got hit a 

1745
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:11,800
bunch. 
But I it it like Pedro Clemens, 

1746
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:15,440
like you didn't get that in 
college too much in high school.

1747
01:23:15,440 --> 01:23:17,000
If you got hit and pretty much 
got away from you. 

1748
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:21,440
I remember one time this pitcher
threw behind me, which was 

1749
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:25,240
really like totally under 
actually, that probably would 

1750
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:27,440
have hurt my back if I think 
about it, because he was a left 

1751
01:23:27,440 --> 01:23:30,520
hand, was a lefty hitter and one
of my buddies in a home run. 

1752
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,160
But he was overly celebrating. 
I forget what it was. 

1753
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:36,120
He threw the ball behind me. 
And you are conditioned to, as a

1754
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:39,200
young hitter to turn away from 
the ball, duck your head, take 

1755
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:41,840
it on the, you know, the meaty 
part, the skeleton of the bone, 

1756
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,200
whatever. 
But when the balls behind you, 

1757
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:47,320
you like, it's just, it's a 
weird reaction. 

1758
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:51,560
And you know, I don't think 
because I don't think I well, I 

1759
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:53,400
know I never saw anybody 
throwing 100. 

1760
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:58,840
I think the hardest I ever dug 
in, there was a kid from NC 

1761
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:03,880
State who just absolutely toyed 
with us these all of us was 

1762
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:06,960
throwing like 94. 
And I believe his name was his 

1763
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:10,080
nickname was Pork Chop Wallace. 
His name was his last name was 

1764
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,200
Wallace, I think. 
And he was the quarterback for 

1765
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:15,360
NC State as well. 
And he threw like, I remember 

1766
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:17,360
there were a lot of scouts there
when we played them. 

1767
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:20,280
And one of my one of my 
teammates said he sold the gun 

1768
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,560
94. 
Like back then there was just no

1769
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:23,800
data. 
You just you had to guess. 

1770
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:27,440
And I'm like, this is this is 
different, you know, but I don't

1771
01:24:27,440 --> 01:24:33,400
know how these major leaguers, 
how I watch baseball every 

1772
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:34,840
night. 
And the thing that probably 

1773
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:39,440
amazes me more than anything is 
for you to dig in there. 

1774
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:44,200
Somebody throw one up and in 
like at your head, under your 

1775
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:46,760
chin, right? 
And then you just don't even 

1776
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:49,720
flinch. 
Not only do you not flinch, but 

1777
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:54,680
you hit a home run a pitch or 
two later like Aaron Judge, like

1778
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:57,520
this thing can kill you, as we 
know. 

1779
01:24:57,960 --> 01:24:59,760
And that's why they're 
different. 

1780
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:03,880
They are just different. 
So did you first to see Judge do

1781
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:05,840
that? 
As I don't, I can't stand this 

1782
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:07,160
Yankee lineup. 
You know that. 

1783
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:10,520
I want them to get rid of Jazz. 
I love Ben Rice. 

1784
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:14,720
Judge is the man Grisham's been 
a disaster until last night. 

1785
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:17,200
You know, Stanton's going to 
start hitting some bombs. 

1786
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:19,280
So like the Yankees will hit a 
little bit more. 

1787
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:24,560
But I I don't like this line up 
as you know, but the the the 

1788
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:28,440
home runs by Grisham last night.
I mean, Judge is going to do 

1789
01:25:28,440 --> 01:25:31,480
that, but the home runs by 
Grisham that may have that might

1790
01:25:31,480 --> 01:25:34,800
be a little bit of a checkpoint.
Like we kind of circle, hey, 

1791
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,080
remember when Grisham came off 
the bench, hit that big pitch at

1792
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:39,000
home run that hit another one to
tie it up at you? 

1793
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:42,200
Like who knows? 
I'm not going to go nuts because

1794
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:44,880
I don't like this Yankee lineup.
And the bullpen is not good 

1795
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,600
until they do the adjustments, 
which I believe they eventually 

1796
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,040
will. 
But it just always amazes me to 

1797
01:25:50,440 --> 01:25:57,440
see a a spherical object coming 
at you 9790901-O1 with action 

1798
01:25:57,440 --> 01:26:00,680
and man, oh man. 
And then you just not you don't 

1799
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:04,200
give an inch and then you go 
yard or you hit a bullet through

1800
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:06,760
the box. 
It's it's amazing. 

1801
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:08,600
It they that's why they are 
different. 

1802
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:11,840
MO MO cage is very generous 
today. 

1803
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,480
Thank you. 
Bo is MO new I believe. 

1804
01:26:14,480 --> 01:26:16,920
So I believe is. 
New I, I I. 

1805
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:19,720
Mean I'll have him answer in the
chat I guess. 

1806
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:23,080
Maybe, but I believe this is a 
new new face I'm seeing here. 

1807
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:24,880
New I thought I. 
Thought so. 

1808
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:26,800
Thank you, MO. 
All right, we got another one. 

1809
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:27,800
Here you go. 
Build things out. 

1810
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:30,720
Welcome to the fam, MO. 
If I had a team at a sport with 

1811
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,760
no salary cap and I'm a 
billionaire, we'll have a super 

1812
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:36,920
team in a year or two. 
Yeah. 

1813
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:40,120
Yeah, I I do agree with that. 
I think that there's a couple of

1814
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:44,400
things, depends on the sport. 
You know, like football, you can

1815
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:47,560
go out there and you can just go
bonkers and free agency. 

1816
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:52,360
But NFL free agency for me is 
not a viable way to build the 

1817
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,800
team. 
It is a a viable way to 

1818
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,720
accessorize a team. 
You know, you go out there, you 

1819
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,080
get that, you know, one or two 
like, yeah, we need a we need an

1820
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:02,960
extra quarter. 
We need a nickel corner. 

1821
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:06,160
You know, we need an offensive 
lineman like Linda Baum, 

1822
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:08,840
somebody like that who got paid 
big bucks MO Y back in the day 

1823
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,600
for The Jets like that, that 
that that's that's a stunt move 

1824
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:14,720
there. 
But I think a lot of NFL teams 

1825
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:17,960
chase bad money because this 
these contracts that even though

1826
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,240
you could, they're voidable and 
get out of it as fungible the 

1827
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:22,480
money as we know. 
You know, if you are trying to 

1828
01:27:22,480 --> 01:27:27,440
build an NFL power free agency, 
good luck because a lot of these

1829
01:27:27,440 --> 01:27:30,720
guys that hit free agency hit 
free agency for a reason. 

1830
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,240
And it's a game of the ultimate 
attrition. 

1831
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,520
So who knows how that money's 
going to go. 

1832
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:38,160
So I would disagree. 
You would try, but you would not

1833
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:42,280
have a super team in the NFLI. 
Don't care if you have $197 

1834
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:46,960
billion net worth portfolio. 
You can't buy a good football 

1835
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:51,400
team #1 in the NBA you got to 
get lucky. 

1836
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:53,480
You know, you got to get lucky 
with somebody like a Kate 

1837
01:27:53,480 --> 01:27:57,200
Cunningham or, you know, lucky. 
And now, well, I think the Heat 

1838
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,880
kind of created their luck by 
being well run with Pat Riley 

1839
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:03,160
and and that stuff. 
But have LeBron go to you or 

1840
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:05,920
have Shaq go to the Lakers after
the Magic. 

1841
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,080
Stuff like that. 
When Jerry West recruited him 

1842
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:11,560
and he left Orlando, that set 
off a mini dynasty with the 

1843
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:14,400
Lakers. 
Like OK if you can do that, God 

1844
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,480
bless you. 
But you still eventually have to

1845
01:28:16,480 --> 01:28:20,440
do like Kobe was drafted. 
Magic was drafted by the Lakers.

1846
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:22,680
Kareem was not. 
Kareem was drafted by the Bucks 

1847
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:27,000
as we know other dynasties, you 
know, the Warriors, Klay 

1848
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:29,920
Thompson, I mean, obviously 
Steph, but I'm talking about the

1849
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:32,320
previous. 
Well, I mean the last Lakers 

1850
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:35,720
died the the last Warriors 
dynasty Steph drafted by the 

1851
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:39,000
Warriors, Klay Thompson drafted 
by the Warriors, Draymond Green 

1852
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,600
second round pick, drafted by 
the Warriors. 

1853
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:46,280
Then once you have that, that 
appealing, you know, home base, 

1854
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:48,680
if you will. 
Well now, hey KD, that looks 

1855
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:49,800
good, man. 
I'm going to join those guys 

1856
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:51,080
over there. 
I'm going to go win with those 

1857
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,360
dudes, man. 
That looks fun, you know? 

1858
01:28:53,480 --> 01:29:00,200
So I think the one sport where 
it's probably the easiest would 

1859
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:04,360
be baseball. 
But now that's kind of offset a 

1860
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:07,440
little bit by the randomness of 
the sport. 

1861
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:12,080
If you've got the best NBA team 
and you've got a LeBron in your 

1862
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:16,000
prime or in his prime and Dwyane
Wade and you get a boss who's a 

1863
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:18,600
Hall of Famer, you can win. 
You just going to win. 

1864
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:22,040
But you know the Yankees do I 
think the Yankees were better 

1865
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:26,160
than the Diamondbacks in O1. 
I do you know, but broken bat 

1866
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:29,360
base hit off the best closer, 
maybe the best pitcher, along 

1867
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:32,000
with a Pedro and a Seaver and 
some of the older names, Cy 

1868
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:33,680
Young, Walter Johnson, names 
like that. 

1869
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:37,440
You know, Sandy Koufax, Mariano 
gives up a broken bat. 

1870
01:29:37,440 --> 01:29:39,000
Believe the Yanks lose the World
Series. 

1871
01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:41,640
That's probably not going to 
happen in the NBA. 

1872
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:44,360
So I I get the sentiment. 
I hear you. 

1873
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:47,400
It's probably easiest to 
construct the power in baseball 

1874
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:49,040
because you can just go out and 
buy your bike. 

1875
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:54,280
If you say if I own the Yankees 
now, I would have my outfit 

1876
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:56,280
first. 
I would have said qualify. 

1877
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:57,720
I don't care about the draft 
pick. 

1878
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:01,160
Whatever, Tred Grisham get lost.
You're not playing here anymore,

1879
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:04,400
right? 
So if I own the Yankees, I would

1880
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:06,160
have Yep, I would have bought 
Max Freed. 

1881
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:11,120
I would be I would have won the 
Soto sweepstakes again. 

1882
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:15,560
Easy easy to say now, but but I 
would have just kept going like 

1883
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:17,480
to the point of the text there 
or the chat. 

1884
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:19,760
Keep going. 
You're a billionaire. 

1885
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:21,520
Hey, I want Sodo. 
All right, Mets offer you what? 

1886
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:23,480
All right, we'll do this. 
We'll do Yep, let's keep playing

1887
01:30:23,480 --> 01:30:25,600
long game cards. 
Yep, I'm in here's my chips 

1888
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:27,840
Mets, you done? 
I'm going to play this game all 

1889
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:31,000
day and then you get Sodo. 
So you got and then maybe what 

1890
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,360
you do is you go out there and 
you get Tucker who's not off to 

1891
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:37,120
a great start, but whatever or 
you would have won the Yamamoto 

1892
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:40,360
sweepstakes a couple years ago. 
You make sure that you win the 

1893
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:44,320
Terek Skubal sweepstakes or I 
don't think now he's going to 

1894
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:46,200
hit free agency. 
I think Schoolbo will. 

1895
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:49,080
I think even though that's the 
wrong move, that's a dumb move 

1896
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:51,560
by the Tigers. 
He's much more inclined to hit 

1897
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:55,960
it before compared to somebody 
like Paul Skeens, who's got 

1898
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:57,680
multiple years of 
controllability. 

1899
01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:01,280
So I think that he'll be dealt 
probably more so than schemes, 

1900
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:03,000
even though both could 
conceivably get dealt. 

1901
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,880
But the point is, Skeens hits 
the open market. 

1902
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:07,840
Come on, let's go. 
You know I'll be a Yankee or 

1903
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:09,120
whatever team you own. 
Here you go. 

1904
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:11,640
Blank check. 
Come on, Like, yeah, you can 

1905
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:13,160
control that more than the other
sports. 

1906
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:16,960
I get it. 
But you know, one of the 

1907
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:20,680
differences here, and that's why
the Yankees always enjoy that 

1908
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:24,360
massive financial edge. 
You you want to go go back and 

1909
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:30,080
look at some of the late 90 and 
early 2000 payrolls, you know, 

1910
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:32,880
even up to the O 9 championship 
with the Yankees spend $250 

1911
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:36,160
million bringing in CC to share 
AJ Burnett to win the 

1912
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:38,640
championship, right, to help 
them get in a position to win 

1913
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:41,800
the championship after O8, right
with the new stadium in O9, 

1914
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:44,440
etcetera. 
But before that, I mean, it was 

1915
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:46,960
like the Yankees had years where
they were out spending, you 

1916
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:51,360
know, teams who were like 2nd, 
4th, 7th by 30, forty $70 

1917
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:53,360
million. 
Like the disparity was glaring. 

1918
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:57,720
It was massive and you know, 
George just had a lot more 

1919
01:31:57,720 --> 01:31:59,240
money. 
It was a different financial 

1920
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:03,240
pool, economic pool, terms of 
like the Rogers Group that owns 

1921
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:06,200
Toronto, the ownership group 
that took over the Dodgers, 

1922
01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:09,480
Cohen that took over the Mets 
and some real money out there 

1923
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:14,360
and how by those standards 
standards is actually destitute.

1924
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:17,960
I saw something. 
Was it Forbes, maybe even Forbes

1925
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:21,640
the other day? 
J Rod, if I said to you, all 

1926
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:23,480
right, what are they, 30? 
I always get mixed up. 

1927
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:26,680
Are the 30 Major League teams? 
I I still all the sports messed 

1928
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:29,000
me up. 
There's 32 NBA teams, right? 

1929
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:33,880
No. 30 NBA teams you see. 
There's 324A12. 

1930
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:37,120
Yeah, there's 32 NFL teams. 
Yeah, and there's. 30 in 

1931
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:39,520
baseball or 32? 
I know it's pathetic. 

1932
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:43,000
I don't know this. 
MLB 5/10/15, I think it's 30. 

1933
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:45,840
Yeah, it's it should be 30 
because you got 5 in each 

1934
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:47,560
division, right? 
Yep, Yep, Yep, Yep. 

1935
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:50,120
All right, so one through 30. 
If I said is the Yankees we're 

1936
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:52,640
talking about, what do you think
Hal ranks in terms of net worth?

1937
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:55,080
Hal Steinbrenner, owner of the 
Yankees. 

1938
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:58,480
OK. 
And it's been in the family 

1939
01:32:58,480 --> 01:32:59,880
forever. 
Think about the ability to 

1940
01:32:59,880 --> 01:33:02,000
monetize that brand, whether it 
was 6. 

1941
01:33:02,480 --> 01:33:05,760
No, no, no. 
Keep going deeper than. 

1942
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:16,000
That yeah, 11 Keep going. 15 
Keep going 20 keep going 2521 or

1943
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:19,520
22 whoa. 
And I say only. 

1944
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:20,960
I guess it's because it's like 
it's an. 

1945
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:24,640
Older pass down money and it's 
not from like some big tech 

1946
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:27,240
organization or something like 
that you. 

1947
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,760
Just said it again. 
Organization, come on. 

1948
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:32,480
I love it. 
Organization, all right, I was 

1949
01:33:32,480 --> 01:33:35,520
raised. 
I was born and raised to say or 

1950
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:38,440
no no born and raised. 
In the mean streets of Manitoba,

1951
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:42,040
No, Jay. 
It's stunning because you know, 

1952
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:46,640
you think about this and George,
the shipbuilding money, I think 

1953
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:49,760
George paid $10 million for the 
Yankees when he bought them in 

1954
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:52,840
in the early 70s. 
And then obviously, you know, 

1955
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:56,600
the Yankees were one of the 
first to, to really, you know, 

1956
01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:59,640
be an attractive destination for
that Japanese star. 

1957
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:02,400
You know, Mats Arabu didn't 
become a star, but they but they

1958
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:06,160
monetized it. 
Obviously Matsui was and some 

1959
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:08,080
others along the way too. 
That's changed now. 

1960
01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:12,440
Most go to the Dodgers, but the 
the family business is baseball 

1961
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:16,920
oriented, the owners of other 
teams, it's tech driven or other

1962
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:20,680
like whether it's a target, 
maybe like the the I think the 

1963
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:24,880
Twins owner is the target. 
I think either way, when you're 

1964
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:28,760
21 or 22 in all the Major League
Baseball and you still have a 

1965
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:33,000
top three payroll, that's why I 
think it's unfair when people 

1966
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:34,280
say how's cheap, how's not 
cheap? 

1967
01:34:34,440 --> 01:34:36,520
Matter of fact, if you were to 
prorate and and like take a 

1968
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:40,960
percentage of net worth versus 
money reinvested into the team, 

1969
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:44,640
I think I would think that how 
would be #1 I, I would think the

1970
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:47,520
difference is you just ain't. 
Got it like that It's true. 

1971
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:48,560
It's. 
True. 

1972
01:34:49,480 --> 01:34:53,600
Like to me how it the big 
criticism, what how would be his

1973
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:56,920
his patience. 
That's what bothers me. 

1974
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:58,040
Yeah. 
I think he's just too patient 

1975
01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:00,400
with some of the shortcomings. 
I I wish he was a little bit 

1976
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:02,880
more visible, not nutty like his
pops, because that's not his 

1977
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:05,920
personality, but just a little 
bit more present, check in a 

1978
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:09,840
little bit more a little more 
intolerant to some of the things

1979
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:13,120
that go on from a roster or 
production point of view. 

1980
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:15,440
But but that's just me. 
But no, it's yeah, he's like 21 

1981
01:35:15,440 --> 01:35:17,280
or 22. 
Crazy. 

1982
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:19,760
All right, what else we got? 
Did I miss anything? 

1983
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:21,280
What do we got here? 
What do we got? 

1984
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:23,160
What do we got? 
We good. 

1985
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:26,280
Nixon 5 All right, there we get 
30 up 3232. 

1986
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:28,360
Let me. 
Throw that Nixon 5 on up real 

1987
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:31,960
quick and get Nixon 5. 
Yeah, I people are I'll do more 

1988
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:33,120
of this as we get deeper in the 
week. 

1989
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:35,120
Thank you. 
B You know, a lot of people 

1990
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:39,640
worried about the the Yankees up
the Knicks in in this series. 

1991
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:41,320
Yeah, Raptors would have been a 
better matchup. 

1992
01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:45,960
I mean, listen, I I think that 
the Knicks probably lose a game 

1993
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:48,800
down there, maybe a tight game 
real late where there's a little

1994
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,760
guard magic early in the series.
I I'd say right now probably 

1995
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:53,200
Nixon five. 
Yeah, I feel pretty good about 

1996
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:54,840
that. 
I I agree with that. 

1997
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:57,720
Easy. 
I mean, listen, the Hawks are a 

1998
01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:00,560
little tough. 
CJ Mccomb's playing extremely 

1999
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:01,800
well. 
I've always liked. 

2000
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:02,800
Him. 
Yeah, I like him. 

2001
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:04,000
I've never watching him back at 
Lehigh. 

2002
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:06,880
I've always liked him. 
Yeah, Was it like when he was 

2003
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:11,000
still like a smaller dude, like 
'cause the he was like one of 

2004
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:13,800
those guys who had like AI guess
this might have been in high 

2005
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:17,960
school who had a ridiculous 
growth spurt, like freshman, 

2006
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:20,480
sophomore in high school. 
He was like 5 foot 10 or 

2007
01:36:20,480 --> 01:36:21,440
something. 
Oh, you serious? 

2008
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:23,040
Wow. 
And there are pictures of him 

2009
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:26,480
and he literally looks like a 
baby, like on the basketball 

2010
01:36:26,480 --> 01:36:27,960
court. 
And then like a year later. 

2011
01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:29,880
Well, that's. 
Truth of the matter is like 

2012
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:32,520
that's the best way to be like 
if you were now this didn't 

2013
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:33,840
quite happen to him to this 
extent. 

2014
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:36,480
But if you, if you're growing 
up, but I mean, like basketball 

2015
01:36:36,480 --> 01:36:38,480
is truly your sport and you're 
playing all year round and 

2016
01:36:38,480 --> 01:36:40,600
you're playing AAU and you're 
not playing like two or three or

2017
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:43,000
two other sports. 
So it's basketball, basketball, 

2018
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:44,960
and that's your focus and your 
guard, right. 

2019
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:47,960
And then all of a sudden, you 
know, sophomore to junior year, 

2020
01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:50,280
you shoot up five inches. 
Now all of a sudden you're a 

2021
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:53,160
6-7, you know, guard who can 
handle and grew up playing 

2022
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:54,960
point. 
You got the vision, you got the 

2023
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:56,600
handle. 
You could you could obviously 

2024
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:58,760
learn how to defend against ones
and pick and roll and all that 

2025
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:00,600
stuff. 
Like that's a separator that 

2026
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:03,680
that's actually quite common. 
No, I don't, I don't know. 

2027
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:05,640
I didn't even know that he was 
that small in high school, but I

2028
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:07,240
just always. 
Just like always liked his. 

2029
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:11,040
His efficiency, just a lot of 
respects for CJ McCollum, always

2030
01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:13,880
out in Portland, Lehigh. 
As I said, great shooter, 

2031
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:16,880
clutch, steady, a stabilizer, 
good team guy. 

2032
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:20,240
All right, man, that's about it.
That's all she wrote. 

2033
01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:23,360
That is all she wrote. 
Put in about an hour 40 today. 

2034
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:24,800
There we go. 
Yep, Yep. 

2035
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:28,000
Just a reminder tomorrow episode
#4 we got The Jets Collective 

2036
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:31,520
coming up as we was really, 
really holding just on the Jet 

2037
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:34,600
stuff specific to the draft. 
So make sure you check it out, 

2038
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:37,880
like it, sub it, hook it up. 
Rich left to right myself, Jake 

2039
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:40,240
Aspen. 
Check out Rich's article on ESPN

2040
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:43,480
or just find it. 
I know he linked it obviously on

2041
01:37:43,480 --> 01:37:46,880
his ex account. 
It's really good about why he 

2042
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:49,840
and and others and so many 
personnel people chimed in about

2043
01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:53,920
why they're probably will never 
be another wide receiver taking 

2044
01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:57,320
first overall because this is 30
years to the draft of of 

2045
01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:59,400
Keyshawn first overall that USC 
to The Jets. 

2046
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:02,200
So, so check that out. 
We'll start moving more into the

2047
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:05,760
NBA playoffs. 
Obviously only 9 days to the NFL

2048
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:08,280
draft. 
We'll see if last night's 

2049
01:38:08,280 --> 01:38:12,480
Yankees hitting explosion just a
respite from what has ailed them

2050
01:38:12,480 --> 01:38:16,920
or, you know, maybe a little bit
momentum and, you know, let's 

2051
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:18,280
see what happens with these Mets
here. 

2052
01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:19,760
I mean, nobody's running away 
with anything. 

2053
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:21,840
I just went through every 
division in baseball before. 

2054
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:25,720
So that's that's a saving grace.
But if, you know, the Braves get

2055
01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:29,240
red hot or the Phillies get red 
hot and the Mets are sluggish 

2056
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:32,240
and the optics look the way they
do, Mehndi's going to lose his 

2057
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:34,120
job as it's just going to 
happen. 

2058
01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:38,400
You can't have that payroll with
those expectations and flounder 

2059
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:42,440
last year after a great start, 
54 and 25 and then, you know, 

2060
01:38:42,440 --> 01:38:46,640
basically be 15 to 18 games 
under 500 from August 1st to the

2061
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:49,320
end of the year, not make the 
playoffs year one with Juan 

2062
01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:52,760
Soto, win 83 games and have a 
job for a couple of years. 

2063
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:55,400
It's not going to happen. 
So hopefully for his sake, 

2064
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:58,560
because I do like Carlos 
Mendoza, I did expect a little 

2065
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:00,560
bit more from these Mets and 
we'll see. 

2066
01:39:00,680 --> 01:39:03,000
All right, so have an awesome 
rest of your Tuesday. 

2067
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:04,680
Got a bounce, J Rod. 
Have a good day, buddy. 

2068
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:06,520
OK. 
Yes, Sir. 

2069
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:08,240
All. 
Right there you go. 

2070
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:10,760
Yeah, no doubt. 
Peace out to the entire BT 

2071
01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:12,080
Unleashed fam. 
Like it. 

2072
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:13,680
Subscribe it, share it, get it 
out. 

2073
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:16,280
Get the word out there. 
I've got asked this a lot. 

2074
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:18,320
Hey, is it just a New York show?
Nope, it's not. 

2075
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:21,000
If you missed it, if you jumped 
in late today, go back to the 

2076
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:24,160
start a lot of NFL draft. 
That's not about the that's not 

2077
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:27,280
about The Jets or the Giants. 
Obviously talked a lot of 

2078
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:29,040
masters the last couple of days 
here. 

2079
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:31,920
So no, it is it's probably 
always going to be the jump off 

2080
01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:35,720
point unless there's a national 
sports story that that just, you

2081
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:38,440
know, usurps everything. 
But it's it's kind of an entry 

2082
01:39:38,440 --> 01:39:40,360
into it and then we just get 
into what we get into. 

2083
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:43,440
So I appreciate you guys again, 
like it sub it, share, get that 

2084
01:39:43,440 --> 01:39:44,760
out there. 
The comments. 

2085
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:47,880
The more you do, the more 
YouTube says all right, this 

2086
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:50,000
this show, it's growing. 
Let's pump it out in the 

2087
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,040
algorithm. 
Trust me, what I tell you, I 

2088
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:53,520
don't want bags, so I'm going to
end it there. 

2089
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:57,360
But it matters like that is that
is the secret sauce for these 

2090
01:39:57,360 --> 01:39:59,640
kind of shows. 
So if you like Unleashed, if you

2091
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:03,000
support BT Unleashed, do your 
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2092
01:40:03,240 --> 01:40:06,960
I am here every day at 10:00. 
And you know, you guys got it 

2093
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:09,320
and most of you have carried the
mail and done a great job. 

2094
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:11,640
But the likes, the comments, the
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2095
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:14,360
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