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We've got a big one today. Hopefully everybody's doing
well. It is hot as hell out.
It's actually hot out today, Jay Rod.
I had to go out and make sure the sprinklers were working and
got to feed the grass. I woke up in like a pool of
sweat this morning. It's.
That hot buddy that's not. It's 85° out.
Already. Is it 85 already?
I think so. It's something like that.
Dude, I I took a step out. It was like I was sweating.
Would you rather be, Speaking of like, falling asleep at night?
Would you rather be freezing or sweating?
Sleeping. Freezing because.
You can always put more. Blankets on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But the other way around, it's
like you got to decide, all right?
Am I sleeping with the blanket? Am I doing just the sheet?
Like, what? Am I going to decide?
Or am I going? Nothing at all?
So what about you? Yeah, I would.
I don't. I don't know that I ever really
reached for a blanket anymore. I kind of just sleep shorts to
the T-shirt and I usually don't even go maybe a sheet here and
there. No, I like as soon as I go to a
hotel, I got to I got to bang it down to like 68 in the
thermostat. Like it's certainly in the
studio when I was in the studio like 68.
I like it nice and cool. Like I get my body that goes
back to the to the sweating episode when I was doing that
show on when they had to crank up to like 9697°.
No, I definitely prefer cool. You know, listen, I'm, but I'm
also a guy, Jay, and I told you this like during the dead of the
winter. Yeah, it could be 17, 1315° out
and snow on the ground. I'll get the shovel, I'll carve
a little pass to the fire pit and, and I'll, I'll rough it
like I, I don't mind being, I've got to, I've got to be dressed
properly. And obviously you know, if
you're holding a beverage or whatever or just kind of working
the fire, you got to have gloves on.
But always prefer to be cold. The only time I don't want to be
cold is when really when I'm playing or coaching baseball.
That's not fun. That is not fun.
We got a little baseball for you today.
A lot of footballs. We get to what, 9 days now
before the start of the drafts? Let's jump into it, guys.
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but I want to start with the NFL draft here.
Yeah, I was. I was doing some stuff this
morning just kind of piercing things together.
And I have said for a while now that I really think that there's
going to be I don't I don't know if I want to use the word
unprecedented. That's that's might be a little
bit much here, maybe prisoner of the moment.
But I do think whether it's leading up to the draft, like,
you know, two or three days before it or on draft night as
teams read the the draft board, as things unfold, I think that
we're going to get, you know, I yes.
And now that I think about it, J ride yesterday's one of the
Bernie questions over under 2 1/2 moves.
I think we have to double that. Like that was an easy yes for
me. I think it's going to be more of
the neighborhood of five to seven because I was thinking
about this and I did a little historical dive here.
So we've had over, you know, this goes back to the start of
the conventional draft. We've had over 400 first round
trades in the NF LS history, right?
13 times it involved the 1st overall pick.
Now that's not going to happen here.
Obviously, Mendoza is going to be drafted by the Raiders.
But you know, you go back somewhat recently, whether it's
the Bears, the Panthers back in 2023, the Titans and the Rams
had a big one back in 2016 with Jared Goff.
You had the Chargers and the Falcons in the early 2000s.
That would have been all one with Mike Vick.
Even The Jets and the Rams. That was the big Orlando pace
trade when Parcells came aboard in 97.
So there's been some some movement atop the board.
I don't necessarily mean that, but to see to to have the
perfect storm of activity, you've got to have two things
going on #1 you've got a lot of you have to have a lot of teams
that you think are willing to make trades.
And I think we absolutely have that.
Whether it's moving up or moving back, check #2 you've got to
have a lot of players who are graded.
I mean, it's all subjective, obviously.
I mean, some people think Mendoza is going to be a Hall of
Famer. Some people think that Ty
Simpson might actually be better.
Who knows? We'll eventually get the answer.
So it it's, it's hard to to really judge that.
Excuse me, but I think there's probably Jay.
I think there's a good seven or eight teams who are really,
really looking to get out. I don't think The Jets will make
a move it to, but I think that they could and I would like them
to. I'm on the record with that,
yeah. But I think that they can be
enticed to maybe moving off, too.
I've got great confidence that the Cardinals or I think the
Cardinals actually set the draft up.
Whether they go offensive lineman, whether they go
defense. I think whatever Arizona does is
going to kind of be a bit of an early curveball and kind of
shape at least the next 8-9 picks.
I think Arizona's open for business.
I'm talking, I think the Titans at #4 I think everybody's saying
that, you know, they're definitely going to take
Jeremiah Love. I'm I'm not sold on that even I
love the kid. I don't know for sure that
they're going to do that. I think the commanders at 7,
something we mentioned, yet somebody brought that up, I
think in the chat, the Saints at 8.
I think Kansas City at 9. How many more times would would
you think in the meet whatever remains of Patrick Mahomes's
prime? Do you think that Kansas City's
going to be drafted inside the top ten?
Unless there's like a trade, obviously, right, Not not much.
So that's an Ave. to do something that you ordinarily
wouldn't do. I absolutely believe that.
First of all, Dallas always likes to move.
But Dallas, whether it's a 12 or 20, I think Dallas is a player.
I think The Jets at 16, whether it's a Simpson or, you know,
Sadiq with tight with, with Oregon, the tight end or
something else that happens. And I don't see what are the
corners, whether it's McCoy, somebody like that.
And I even think, of course, Howie Roseman with the Eagles at
#23 So I, I just think it's a, it's a perfect storm of as I
anticipate a lot of action, which makes the NFL draft very
unique. You don't get this in Major
League Baseball. You used to get this a little
bit in the NBA, like when, when Antoine Jamison and Vince Carter
were dealt or a seat, Chris Webber was dealt early on.
Like you'll see that a little bit.
Even Stefan Marbury, I think he was drafted by the Bucks, right?
Was he drafted by the Bucks and then he went to Minnesota.
There was some early action in the, in the NBA draft that's
even kind of fizzled out a little bit.
I I think it's going to be a lot of a lot of movement because
really guys, there's a lot of players and we spent a lot of
time on this already and I love it.
Like there's, there's not many things to get me as excited as
the NFL draft, though certainly like Sunday to gust that we
talked about that. I mean World Series, Yankees,
that's next level, you know, final four championship game,
OK, no doubt. Wall court weekend, divisional
weekend, conference championship weekend, Super Bowl little less
because all the nonsense there. There's obviously a few staples
within the sporting calendar. The NFL draft to me is just, you
know, I don't want to say that it's #1 again, I don't want to
be a prisoner of the. But it actually might be.
Because when you think about everybody's involved, we know
all the, I mean, if you watch college football and you follow
Mox, we know all these players. And really one thing that's
changed, which I think gives the NFL another inherent advantage,
say over the NBA, is that we've watched these players for more
than one year now. They're bouncing around the
portal. Think about this.
Mendoza, prior to going to Indiana and winning the national
championship, he was a cow where they went six and five and they
squeezed into a bowl. So there's player movement for
sure. But I mean, we've, I just
shouted down some of these. We've watched Reese play for a
while. We've watched Downs play from
day one. We've watched.
Now, I don't watch Texas Tech that much, to be fair, but
there's a ton of film and there's a lot of familiarity
with Bailey and Bain at Miami. We saw him in the playoffs,
obviously in the championship. Sonny Styles, not that I'm out
here grading offensive line tape.
I'm I'm never going to front and say, Oh yeah, this guy's got
great hands. And I mean, I listen the
offensive lineman, it's really hard to judge, but I know
Spencer Fano from Utah is going to go very high.
Jeremiah Love we talk about all the time.
Tate McCoy, I just mentioned him the corner from Tennessee.
Kenyon Sadiq, I mentioned him, the tight end from Oregon.
These are all names that if you've got even more than it,
just as a slight a modicum of interest in in diving into a
football Saturday and watching the Buckeyes and the Oregons and
some of the higher level Michigan, of course, some of the
higher level teams there. You know, obviously in the end
of this year, you know, these players.
And and I just think I Jay, I think from first, I think we'll
get a traitor to going into the draft, which will set the table.
All right. And then once that first draft
curveball comes in, I think it's going to go bonkers and I think
it's going to be awesome and I cannot wait.
I'm pumped man. What I was seeing, you know,
some rumors, maybe The Jets trade up from 16 package one of
their later picks. What do you think about that?
OK, OK. Yeah, listen, I think that's
absolutely good question. I think that that's absolutely
in play of the two first round picks that The Jets have, I
think they're much more inclined to move off from 16 rather than
two because they'll have more options and it's more
justifiable. And at that point, the
quarterback comes into play and he's not in play #2 obviously I
would want to know are they moving up or are they moving
back, if you know? So do you, do you have a little
bit more specifics there? I think they're amenable to a
trade because Moogie's already shown a propensity to want to
trade. But go ahead, finish your.
Thought what I was seeing was move up was using using a later
pick, packaging it with 16 potentially a player and moving
up. OK.
Moving up to the neighborhood of the top 10 because if you're OK.
That was. That was the attempt at least,
like. OK, now that makes some sense
because think about this, Jay, if you're #16 and you take your
obviously your 16th pick and it's all based on the chart.
And and there's the the, you know, the charts of the point
system there. If you take, say, 30, 3 and 16,
I don't know exactly what that equates to, but it's going to
get you. Yeah.
I would think that that would get you in the neighborhood of
of nine and eight or nine. And and listen, that's where the
commanders, maybe even at 7, who I think are open to a trade.
I mentioned the certainly the Chiefs at #9 the Saints at #8
yeah, I would be more than amenable to it.
I just want to know at that point, are they going offense?
Are they thinking defense? Because look, if you think about
this now, just from a Jets perspective, and by the way,
we've got episode #4 coming up tomorrow night there, Jay, let's
get that up on the screen. My God, look at him.
He's quick, he's awake, he's locked in.
My guy. Jay Rod is ready for the draft.
The Jets collective hop on the on the page, give it a like,
give a sub, all that stuff. Myself and Jake Aspen, the great
Rich Samidi. So and Jake is great too, but
Rich obviously been doing this forever.
So no, no, no shade of Jake at all.
Great chemistry, awesome show, really well produced, great
opinions, great info. And Rich actually had an article
which I finally got to read yesterday.
As a matter of fact, I read it yesterday and it was.
I think he dropped it over the weekend.
So I was probably about a day or two behind You.
Get that off there. Thank you very much.
That's at 7:00 tomorrow night. Jets Collective, the three of
us, we're doing it every week. And then once the season starts,
we'll go from one show a week to two again.
It's called The Jets Collective. Yeah.
And then I'll be doing my own stuff, immediate name reactions,
all that stuff on BT and Lee. So the article, just as a quick
aside here, the article was how it was a very in depth, thorough
piece. And Keyshawn was the last wide
receiver to go first overall back in 96 at AUSA.
And it's just like, especially if you're old enough to have
lived that, which I obviously AM, I mean all all the different
machinations and like what The Jets were thinking and you know,
Peyton, is he going to come out? He's not coming out receiver
one. And it's funny, some of the
comments from some of the older at that point, Jets personnel
and decision makers. I don't think Parcells was
quoted, but everybody else was in the building at that point.
And it's funny, it's, it's really just another illumination
as to what has been historically wrong with The Jets.
Not the Keyshawn wasn't good. He was, he was very good for
four years. You know, they won the they won
the division first time ever in 98 when they went 12 and four.
They should have gone to the Super Bowl.
They should have beat Denver. They were we all know that.
I think they would have mopped the Falcons in the Super Bowl.
I have no, I can't prove that. That's what I think.
You had the greatest coach at that .1 of them yet a great
coordinator in Belichick. You had a Hall of Fame staff,
you had Curtis, you had Corbett, you had Keyshawn, you had
defense, you just had it all. You had Kevin Hawaii in the as a
center Hall of Famer. You were just ready to go.
And they lose, right? But when they chronicled that 96
draft and they talked about as they were going through the
process as of the morning of the draft, they didn't know if they
just Leon has at that point still on the team.
And then what? He bought it in 2000.
Leon Hess was still alive obviously and his money was
rooted in oil and The Jets weren't sure if they were going
to be able to put together and enticing enough package either
to entice Keyshawn or from The Jets point of view, if they
wanted to spend that much on the 1st overall pick.
Because Jay, you got to remember like right now, you get dredded
first. You get dredded forth and let's
say Jeremiah loves gold goes forth to Tennessee.
He already knows slotted what he's going to make.
Back then it was like, no, you got to sit down with the camp
and the agents and. Work it out with the player,
yes. Wild it's y'all and Keyshawn got
a six year deal and they wound up trading him after the 4th
year there to Tampa. They got a boatload back and
they had three first round picks in 2001, of whom was Chad
Abraham Ellis and Anthony Beck, the tied in from West Virginia.
The point being, it's a really, really good article.
But they said in the article they're like, yeah, well, we we
know that we needed us. We knew that we needed a splash.
And Keyshawn had this charisma. And I'm reading this all these
years later. And again, Keyshawn was really
good, not great. Wasn't Jerry Rice.
He was good, really good, right? I'm reading this.
I'm saying that's not why you draft somebody first overall.
And one of the quotes actually attributed to one of their
personnel people. I think it may have been Pat
Kerwin. I, if I have that right, I think
it was Pat. And he's like, you know, the
Giants own the city and we were trying to get a little piece of
it and try to carve out our own identity and we needed a splash.
Well, that's one of the problems with The Jets.
You know, I've been making splashes with Brett Favre and
Aaron Rodgers. Like I actually feel like
they're doing it the right way now.
But but very quickly, because this is not just about The Jets,
but you asked me about this, right?
I believe there's, you know, when you look at the two in the
16th overall pick and I'm, I'm on the record with this and I
have not changed my opinion. They're either going to go, it's
probably about four options. First option is, and I'm going
to exclude trades for a moment because then we could just be
here all day and just incorporate 3 or 4 possible
trade. So they drafted 2, they drafted
16 #1 scenario defense, defense, which I think is highly
plausible, obviously, because it's number one for me #2 if
they stick at 2 and 16, definitely go on defense too, no
matter what. And then wide receiver, OK #3
would be defense 1st. And then maybe Kenyan Sadiq, the
tight end from Oregon at 16. And Rich said on the show last
week, Rich Tamini, he's getting Intel.
He thinks he's gone. He thinks he's gone by 13 or 14.
So The Jets love him. And to your point, if they want
to move up and what you read and what you just brought to the air
before, if that's the case, well, then they're gonna have to
make a trade. The other scenario would be
obviously on a smaller level, maybe deep.
Well, defense is probably 5 defense wide receiver, OK.
And there's four or five guys with first round grades,
although you just know one, one or two is going to slip it
around to what happens all the time.
And then the last one, you have to incorporate the quarterback
defensive to Ty Simpson. And again, if that's if they
stick at 16, but I think that that's where 33 becomes more in
play. They scoop back in play first
round like Lamar Jackson, the Ravens, blah, blah, blah.
So that's what's going on with that.
I, I think that this is just that the NFL does a lot of
things that drive me nuts, really play it on Christmas Day.
They've taken away the, I don't know if intrigue is the right
word, but there's an overconsumption of football now,
which I think was, you know what I'm saying, which, which I've
always thought was football's greatest inherent strength.
Like, I love baseball. You know, I watched my son had a
basketball game last night and my daughter had a softball game
before that. So I watch I listened going to
the basketball game had him on her judge's home run the first
one get to that later and then I came home.
I watched a couple and then Yankees bullpen stinks.
By the way, Yankees bullpen this might be I do have a solution
later in the show. This might be the worst Yankees
bullpen since really Buck 95 wild card Tory championship in
96. It's the bullpen stinks.
All right. Everybody's focused on the
Yankees lack of hitting, although they did hit last night
and maybe Grisham gets going. I don't trust anybody in the
book. They already sent Jake Bird
after the game. There's like a George Booth
dude, pack your bags. You stink, go back down to go
down a AAA. So anyway, I'm I watched the
Yankees last night. I watched a good chunk of the
Mets game before I fell asleep. But but that's me.
I'm a baseball guy. The beauty baseball is that it's
always, it's a companion that is never going to abandon you.
You know what I mean? It's like that safety blanket or
that safety valve, when you want it, you put it on.
You don't have to be locked in, like, on every single pitch.
Like, think, think about the difference.
Now, you're not married yet, but, you know, if you want to
get married someday, I mean, you got to get a couple dates before
you get married, to be fair. But yeah.
And those those who are new to the show, I just like to entice
my my young superstar sending young carrot.
On the stick with the carrot. On the stick, first you got to
get to date #1 and then that's got to go well.
And then once that goes well, if it goes well, you obviously move
to date #2 and then your boy BT will take care of date #3 at a
nice restaurant and I'm good. I got a couple of spots in mind
here in Jersey. Come out, come out, Yeah.
I was going to say when the chef will come out, you know, make
you look like a big shot, you know, maybe pair a little vino
with the foods, depending upon if you go there, white, you
know, white wine, red wine, steak, whatever.
So we'll take care of that. But what what as as as J Rod
will learn eventually if he ever gets married.
The the thing about watching football with a family now I'm
lucky it's my job. My son loves football, my
daughter, my daughter likes football.
My let my wife loves football. So we're a football fit.
My son plays my daughter. Cheers.
We're a football family, right, But if you're not a football
family, good luck sitting on the couch, especially when there's a
game in London from 10:00 in the morning to the end of the Sunday
night game. You know what, when your wife
wants not not the stereotype on a on a male female, you know,
sex or thing like, you know, women want to do this and guys
want to do that because that's ridiculous.
But you know, you know, maybe a little bit more applicable back
in the day, but your wife's nagging you.
I want to go apple pick and I want to get pictures for little
Joey. We we got a three-year old
birthday party that the kids, we're not going to be friends
within five years, but because he lives down the street, we all
got to go. And the dads are looking at each
other like this and looking at the phones and fantasy and bad
like good luck navigating that. So the advantage that football's
always had clearly has been dissipated because they're
getting greedy. You know, with the international
games and the Sunday night games and the Monday night games and
the Thursday games and the Christmas games and the other
hot Thanksgiving. Now there's three.
Obviously you get deep in the season, you've got games on
Saturday, but but the inherent advantage that the NFL, even if
they tried to concoct a plan to mess it up and minimize the
impact and the strength as it buoys the product is the draft.
I mean, think about the NBA draft energy.
And I know you're a big NBA guy, and so am I, but think about for
the average sports fan, NBA draft, MLB draft, NHL draft, NFL
draft, It's just. Got some sauce to it.
I don't know what it is. I mean I I don't know it's it's
just got a grander scale even the presentation they do it.
It's such a you know bigger thing.
You know the boats are like even this year the stage looks
absolutely wild. I didn't see the.
Stage yet? You got to look at it, yeah.
I got to pick, dude. It's huge.
I mean, it's like futuristic oh wow, my God, Bret Michaels
performing at it. Let's go.
They really from poison? Dude.
I did like an interview with him last week.
Bro Bret. Michaels him and.
Brett, he's got to be from, he's from Pittsburgh, dude, it was
wild, really all. Right.
No listen, it's funny. You just poison's great.
Some of the tunes of bangers every.
Rose. Has it's the one every night has
his down. All right, so I funny, I had
this a little later in the show. I'll jump into this now.
Hey, get the chats, get the text going.
Let's everybody hop in, have a little fun.
So do you do you're a big musical guy.
For those who don't know, J Rod's in a band plays the bass.
He plays in a lot of places down Lower East Side.
He is a he is a music person, all right?
You love rap, but fairly eclectic taste.
You know, you got some old bands for the Pops, obviously, right?
Do you understand how the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame really
works? Not at all.
OK, I mean it. Seems like at this point, it's
just like if you were a if you were a popular musician at any
point, you're a candidate for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Yeah, that's a very loose translation, like.
Yeah. With I guess from the. 60s on
sort of deal like even if you were like is Cyndi Lauper in the
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame now her music, your music is
adjacent to rock, even though it's more poppy 80s kind of
synth kind of deal. But you know, now it's just it's
basically I think it's pretty much comprised of the rap and
rock Hall of Fame at this point. Well at this.
Point. They should probably just call
it the Music Hall of Fame, yeah. Yeah, I mean, doesn't make
sense, no. I don't.
I think it was. I think it was born or the idea
was spawned in either the late 80s or the early 90s.
But rap wasn't in its infancy in the early 90s.
You had the West Coast game at that point.
I mean, rap has been around underground since, you know, in
terms of spinning records and, you know, up up in the Bronx.
Like, no 70s, really. Yeah.
The mid 70s was went like Cool Hurricane, some of these guys
like Grandmaster Flesh when they were starting to spin and, you
know, cut, you know, cut the records up and stuff.
Like now, they weren't planted on the radio in 1974.
That was still Led Zeppelin, and I'm sure some Elvis stuff and
The Who, whatever, But no, what you got into, certainly when I
was in grammar school now, it wasn't as nearly as mainstream
as it is now, but you know, I had run the MC and then I had
the Beastie Boys, and then I was even messing around with the Fat
Boys. The movie, The Disorderly.
Yeah, like this, the Disorderly that came up.
So to me. I just.
I need somebody to let me know what the Hell's going on with
this, so I just. Looked up the criteria.
I got the criteria, I got it. Is it, is it just you have to
have your first commercial release at least 25 years,
correct or that's the old the sole kind of criteria that's.
Well, yeah, that's the sole like non subjective point of
evaluation. You're right.
But there's a few other things, not many.
Yeah, you're eligible 25 years after the first, after your
first recording goes whatever the word, whatever word you use
there. But then you get into like
musical excellence. Okay, that's kind of it varies.
Then you get into impact and influence.
All right. Well, I mean, who's voting on
this? Well, I've got that.
I got the I got that for you as well.
I guess the nominees are chosen by committee, right?
And then Yep. And then they're voted on by
12150 industry experts. And I would have to think at
this point, maybe not early on, which was some of the rap
artists, you know, took a while for them to get in.
But I would think that early on it was not a good cross section
like it was. I don't want to say that it was
biased, but it was like the old guard like that that I don't
think that rapping house music and whatever else, I don't think
that that was really represented.
I would think by now the year 2026, when you have 1200
industry experts, I would think that it's it's all-encompassing.
But here's the thing, right? So the nominees for 2026 new
addition. I love the audition.
Come on. Right, right.
Was that was Ronnie Bobby. Wait, we got to cool it now.
Got to cool it now. Do you know that song?
I I do. I do.
I'm like, familiar. Not I I can't say I ever spun it
on my own accord. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Wait, hold on.
Ronnie, Bobby, Ricky, Mike. I like the girl.
Who cares who you like? Oh, New edition was great.
Pink. All right, some bangers, but
not, not not a big fan. Black crows.
I love them pink, OK? I mean, it makes sense, but even
for me, he's a beast. Really. 25 years, yeah.
Think about that. I know.
I mean, that's my. My entire existence, so they
think. Think about that.
Listen, you get older, things start, things start shrinking.
Well, I mean maybe for some, but time starts condensing itself,
right and accelerate. So you got new edition Pink, The
Black Crowes, who I saw in Parents and I love the Black
Rose, Shakira, who's a phenomenon.
Lord Hill, The Fugees, but this. But Lord Hill's great.
I love Lord Hill, but Lord Hill. This is just her own solo work.
Melissa Etheridge, I'm coming home like that right up to my
window. I think that's the song.
And Mariah Carey. Now, first of all, unless I had
this wrong and I did a fairly decent amount of research this
morning, Mariah Carey did not get in.
I mean, what, what? I'm not a huge Mariah Carey.
I mean, young Mariah Carey I love.
But you know, Reese or whatever. Here's what I don't get.
So I guess Iron Maiden finally got in this year?
Iron Maiden with Ozzy Osbourne was not in until yesterday.
So wait, no, you're thinking black.
Sabbath. I mean black.
Sabbath black steak. I knew the black.
Sabbath wasn't in until yesterday.
Wait, no. Or iron.
Maiden wasn't in until yesterday.
Timeout. 22nd Timeout Timeout The idiot on the floor Timeout
ref I'm the idiot. Black Sabbath is in Black
Sabbath. Ozzy Solo.
Ozzy Iron. Maiden is not being in is still
ridiculous I believe. They just got in yesterday's
what I'm saying, but they were not on base.
There, Yeah. Motorhead's not in Thin Lizzy.
I don't know if you know who they are not.
In whoa, Thin Lizzy's not. In the Rock'n'roll, they're not.
In No Dude, Jane's Addiction, Alice In Chains.
I just, I don't understand it. I mean, if Harold Baines is in
the Baseball Hall of Fame, why is Nas not in the Rock and Peja?
Stoyakovich is in the Basketball Hall of Fame.
How is Alice In Chains not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?
Well, but yeah. I appreciate the energy there,
but on the I know and basketball's different.
I know it's international. I get it.
I get. Well, that's your answer.
I mean, you know the answer there buddy, but still,
listening him to even international basketball is not
Alice In Chains to Rock'n'roll come.
On I'm with you. I agree.
Well look, look at the tiger coming out of the cage.
Put the put the Rottweiler back in the Canada.
No, look at him. J Rod, I love it.
No, you're not. You're not wrong.
And I have been to Cleveland. I imagine Feder I went to the
Darrelle Revis and well, let me put that order properly.
The Joe Klecko and the Darrelle Revis Hall of Fame and TriMet a
couple year. I actually ran a trip there for
my Jets getaway company, right. We had about 7580 people was
absolutely awesome Hall of Fame game, the ceremony, big party
and all that stuff. So I was in Cleveland for that.
I've been there for NCAA tournament years ago, like not,
not the not the championship, but like around before that.
Been there a couple times, is my point, right.
And I always wanted to try to go to the Hall of Fame, the
Rock'n'roll whole fame. I just never had time and you
know, but like what is even you think about some of the
artifacts right around you know, you think about the basketball,
the pro basketball, as it's called the pro basketball Hall
of Fame. You have like the initial Peach
basket where Doctor Naismith where he invented the game and
like those leather balls with with the lacing on it, right
Early sneakers like the Chuck Taylor's, you know, uniforms,
like the nut huggers that like you know, George Miket and these
dudes would wear outside of I and I need you to jump in on
this outside of like maybe a a bass or a guitar like has the
equipment drums? Has the equipment changed?
Has it evolved at the rapid rate of say the sneaker evolution?
I don't mean popularity in. Terms of tech.
Yeah, big. Time I don't know if the stuff
that would be in the like if the tech that artists use now here
like let me shove it for example.
Oh, look at J Rod is into it today.
So like. Here, like here's like the tech.
So this is like a guitar pedal. Like people would know what that
is and like the chat maybe. So it's like that's like
something an artist would use and it kind of like changes the
sound of your instrument. So like in the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame, they probably have like Kurt Cobain stuff like his
equipment, his gear. And so it's like those are kind
of the artifacts from the modern day that would be in like, okay,
the. Okay, and listen, I'm sure
you've got maybe a jumpsuit that Elvis wore.
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure. Now that I think about, I'm sure
they perhaps some pretty cool stuff like a Sequin Jackson,
Michael Jackson, Sequin Blaze or whatever.
The glove. You know what's?
Funny is like, I feel like a lot of this stuff, I'm sure a ton of
it's in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
I've got a lot of this stuff is like either most of it is either
in just like weird auction house collections or.
Or like hard. Rock Cafes like have you ever
gone to I should? Go there all the time.
Yeah, I went to. One in it was in.
It was the one in Niagara Falls, NY and they had straight up,
they had John Lennon's guitar in Hard Rock Cafe in Niagara Falls.
New Year. I've been there.
I've been to that hard ride with my dad.
Wow, that's funny. Yeah, yeah.
My friends and I went on a trip that's cool up there back a
couple years back. And yeah, so it's like, I feel
like music artifacts are just. Since there's.
Such a hot commodity price wise they're probably just spread out
everywhere I guess. So and listen, same with some of
the wrestling stuff. I know that they've read the WWE
has like the vault where they they had a show, I think it was
on A&E, yeah, right. Where they had like the old
Andres boots and like Harley Race's belt and, you know, Ric
Flair's robe and Roddy Piper's killed.
Like they just found some crazy stuff.
Like I love that stuff. I would think, you know, to me
what I, what I would think might be, I think you appreciate this
as as a musician. I think the coolest thing, like
if you gave me an hour to like, either look at guitars that Led
Zeppelin, you know, worked or whatever it might be, I think I
would prefer give me a yellow, give me a legal pad with songs
where they are writing down the lyrics and then they're crossing
out. And like, this is just some of
the goals for the show today. And like, you see how they
change a word and they actually go through the creative process.
They've got to have some of that stuff in there.
Oh my. Gosh, I'm that would be the
coolest stuff to see ever. I bet that's in like museums.
That would be awesome. Yeah.
So I just, I, I don't know, I just saw this and I'm like, I
don't know. But yeah, as I talk about this
on the air, like, because I've been to Cooperstown a couple of
times, I played up in Cooperstown.
I played on the Doubleday field there twice.
Once I think I was about 12, played against Japan, which was
great. And then I played a college
summer tournament. There haven't been.
I don't know if I've been back since, man, I got, I got to take
my family there. I've not been there in a long
time. But I mean, think about from a
sporting perspective. Yeah, I guess I undersold all
the different. You could have a guitar pick
from, you know, name Eddie. Eddie.
Great. Van Halen, Yeah.
Yeah, Oh God, yeah. At Van Halen, sure.
It's just it's so it's so nebulous and not that I'm
surprised that it's that it is. But like even somebody like
Baines or Sutton or Burp Lylev and like some of these names
that if you're a real baseball fan, like a dyed in the wool
baseball fan slash a story and whatever and you consume the
numbers, there's at least tangible stuff that you can
point to and you can say, yeah, but you know, even though we
didn't have maybe the requisite 300 win benchmark, he he was
above league average. He had this war.
Like you can quantify certain things.
I guess you could do it in music.
Well, this artist had X amount of number one hits or platinum.
So I mean, I can't do that. I mean, I have a feeling.
It's like I would guess they the criteria, maybe they don't like
I would imagine they don't necessarily go off of numbers
exactly. I feel like they probably just
get a lot of musicians in a room and they're just like, all
right, who's iconic? Like who are these iconic?
Influences. Yeah, exactly.
More. So than maybe the numbers, but I
totally agree. But obviously the numbers not
played into account into how popular you are.
And then I want to move into some some other stuff here.
Yeah. And keep the football stuff
going, getting some baseball as well.
Hopefully everybody's having a good Tuesday here.
Unleashed, fam. J Rod is bringing it today.
J Rod, look at him. He always brings it.
I did not know that The Commodores, unless I was fed
erroneous information. The Commodores are not in the
whole fame, not rock, the whole thing.
The Commodores, who are the best?
Songs of all time, easily. Brick.
House and brick House and easy. Oh, God.
Well, they remember the old, there was an NFLI, don't know if
it was DIRECTV. There was an NFL commercial that
actually used that song. And it was like, yeah.
And I remember some dude like waking up and I think he was
putting on a Titans jersey, just here easy locks and he's getting
ready for game day, maybe putting some wings out.
Yeah, I I listen, I don't profess.
To know what's quintessential movie song, it's got to be in
every movie ever. No, not every, but it's it's
that's like that's a film class. OK, but hold.
On so OK name one movie that it's in think of that.
I'm not to put you on the spot. You did.
You did, I mean. I mean, listen.
Sometimes I got to put you on the spot, you know?
No clue. Make a bolt.
I know, I've heard it. I know.
I've heard it in a movie. Yeah, yeah.
I can't think of which. One I understand one of the
Shreks, probably Shrek. Shrek.
One time my my wife got mad at me.
She's like, you look like Shrek. He actually dropped the Shrek on
me, No? That's like one of the coldest
insults a man can get. I know because Chuck one time
called Shaq it on on NBA on TNT. He was like, he was like, you
look like he was like Shaq. You're like Shrek.
Oh. My God, it's funny.
What do we got here? MO Cage?
What up MO All right, man, so he's got a he's got a giants
logo so you guys can do some interesting things there at #5
you got your new coach. So things are going to be
turning for the G man So happy if you happy for you guys with
that. Best trade The Jets can make is
trading their owner for somebody better.
Let me tell you, I wish like I learned.
Thank you for that MO appreciate you popping in.
You're not wrong. Woody's a clown.
You know, I, I, it's very easy to say The Jets will never win
with Woody. It's, it's a little lazy.
Even even shitty owners sometimes find a way to just,
you know, stay out of the way. Think about James Dolan.
I mean, think about the energy like that guy was in, in New
York, James Dolan, he was despised.
He was abhorred. He it was vilified like.
Just keep. Going in that direction of words
and eventually you'll stumble upon really all of them fit how
we felt about Dolan. But things change.
Why? Because he made a smart hire in
Leon Rose and he stayed out of the way.
Now listen, playoff start. We'll do a lot of Knicks stuff,
obviously coming up a lot of NBA playoffs here.
I can't wait. I do like the way the Knicks
finished the season, even though, you know, they rested
guys that last game, whatever, but you know, the pick and roll
and and I think that you know, OG getting healthy, having some
time off his ankle. A very curious and excited and
and also a little skeptical to to see what the Knicks do.
But there's no denying that the Knicks are good, that the Knicks
are top five team. Everybody knows that.
And now you don't hear one person complain about James
Dolan. I I got to be honest with you in
the not that anybody would have really done it when Tiki and I
were doing the national stuff in the three years that I was on
the fan, almost just about 3 years.
I don't we didn't take one negative James Dolan call if I
had a penny for every you know Woody Johnson slight or dis
tweet on air comment call, you know I mean we.
Here's the question. So like, if Mooji can pull
things together, do you think maybe Woody a little bit of
slack? Do you think you.
Yeah, potentially. Sure.
I mean think because James Dolan did.
And again, I don't think what he's like.
If you look at Dolan and you look at Woody and take Dolan at
the height of his idiocy and Woody now, which is the height
of his whatever any it. Is the height of idiocy as a
word, yeah. Yeah, I do think they're
different in this regard. But just to answer you directly,
I mean, if The Jets start cooking and Mooji eventually
finds a quarterback, that that vitriol, that energy that's
that's shifted, you know, the last four or five years, because
for The Jets, it was always Jets are going to jet.
Jets are a joke. Jets are a punchline.
Really the last four 5-6 years and and I've been I've been I
don't want to say that I led the charges.
I don't want to be that, you know, that egotistical, but I I
can tell you I was on the front lines, man.
I don't know if I was the first guy carrying the rifle, but I
might have been because I'm like that dude's the problem that
there's got to be a correlation. At some point.
You find any shitty team, you know, whether it's just teams
that can't figure it out. Sacramento Kings, the old
Knicks, the Cleveland Browns, you know, you know, the dorm,
the Cardinals, like the the Lions up until this recent
renaissance here. Like though, they always seem to
make the mistakes. They reach for quarterbacks when
they fire people incessantly. And there's never any stability,
right? So there's always some some
common traits for for poorly run franchises.
But The thing is, and I do think there's one difference, though,
between Dolman and Woody, which I'll tell you in a minute.
But yes, if The Jets get their act together, I'm not saying
people will praise Woody. They'll just ignore them.
And then they'll praise Muji and Glenn.
And if, you know, if Glenn's still here, and then from a
football point of view, those guys will receive the accolades
and rightfully so. The difference though, and this
is I think what really worries me about Woody Johnson.
Bigger picture than any other New York GM, more than Dolan
with both teams, you know, certainly more than Cohen.
More than how. How doesn't worry how just
frustrates me a little bit with his patience.
He doesn't worry me. You know, Giants ownership has
been knocked around lately and and praying for Mr. Mayor.
I haven't read much about him. John Mara battling cancer.
Hopefully he's doing well. A good man, really good man.
And and the Mara, you know, family is just one of the great
stewards of the NFL. But the The thing is, I think
the difference between Woody, I think that and this scares me.
And this what really problem number one with The Jets for me.
I think he's one of these dudes, unlike Dolan, like Dolan sits
there in the front row, you know, kind of like schlump like
this. And that was a horrendous image
when they stunk because he was just slumped over on the under
the baseline. Like, dude, just can you project
a little interest in the team? Can you project a little
happiness, a little hope instead of this negative vibe that just
resonates out of every poor or oozes out of every poor.
What is different in this regard?
I think. That Woody's one of those dudes.
When things start going well, I think Woody is going to want to
get some credit. And I think Woody, I think he's
got that demeanor. Not that he's like volatile or
crazy unpredictable, like George back of the day or, you know,
Dolan early on, like, you know, petulant.
Yeah, he's a little petulant, but petulant like Dolan is worst
moment. I think Woody's a glory hound.
I think Woody's a bit of a jock sniffer.
And I think that Woody needs to be involved in any renaissance
stabilization of The Jets. I think that Woody's going to
try to insert himself into the equation.
And my biggest fear because eventually The Jets will stumble
upon success. Eventually.
The Jets and all these teams, the Browns, the Cards, man, the
Carders weren't a Super Bowl, you know, back in the day.
I mean, it's certainly in my lifetime, within the last 2015
years, whatever it was. So I think inside of that either
way, I think that if The Jets get going, I think I could see
Woody having a power struggle with either Mooji or somebody
else. And he wants to, he wants to,
you know, that he wants to cred and he fires somebody because he
feels like he's not getting the credit when in reality, he did
nothing but cut checks. All right?
That's what worries me about him.
John Marrick. I'd have no worries about that
with John. That's why the Giants are
different than The Jets. John Mayer.
Now again, they've had a very you know, and Tisha has some
other issues when they've had a very rough Rd. recently, you
know, firing coaches, blah, blah, blah.
But John Mayer is the kind of stable person where now that
it's Horbaugh show, all right, go get him coach.
You know, I'm here. I'm here if you need me.
I don't think Woody's capable of.
I hope I'm wrong, you know, but. Here's a little just follow up
from MO Cage. When my dad moved us from Syria
to New Jersey in the late 90s, he left us to pick our fandom.
My brothers went with Jets because of my cousins but IA 9
year old went giants like my dad.
Best decision ever. That's a good decision, man.
That is a very good. I'd like to know how old he is.
I don't know if it's the best. I mean, he could have been a
Pats fan. He could have been, you know,
other teams that win more. But point being, based on the
the the New York football pecking order.
No, I mean, I I made the mistake like an idiot and I don't even
know why. Well, I do, but like there was
no real reason for me to become a Jets fan.
Like The Jets weren't shoved down my throat like my dad by my
dad. You know, he big baseball guy,
big basketball fan, big golf fan, loves, you know, loves
football and for years would bet football.
Yeah, I remember, like, seeing, because I would always read the
papers, even when I was young. I remember seeing, like, the
Daily News. And he would have like, you
know, Giant 49ers if Dallas, like, he'd have his reverses
going. And back then he'd have to call.
He had a secret code name. You got to put the bets in that
way. Yeah.
No, for sure. So he watched football every
single Sunday all day while my mom was making the, you know,
the meatballs and everything, but.
And I was down in the basement with him.
But it wasn't like he. He never once had a jet shirt,
never unless I got him one, never once had a Giants hat.
It was just, you know, football. And he wanted both teams to do
well because he wanted that storyline to go into the
postseason, right, the playoffs for The Jets and the Giants.
There was not there wasn't an uncle, not an older brother.
There was 00 gravitational pull on my to pull me in as a Jet
fan, I had no excuse except that I'm a loser.
No, I. Mean listen, that was that was
your calling your your calling was to be a Jets fan.
Think about this. If I didn't, If I wasn't a Jets
fan, I wouldn't have been able to do the whole we are
unkillable speech. And I don't know about that if
you weren't a. Jets fan, I wouldn't.
Be on. I wouldn't be on planet Earth.
I wouldn't be doing no no. I don't know about that.
I I just think, I just think, I think that's like an essential.
I think that's like an essential butterfly in this in this
pattern, here, in this chain. Look at, look at.
You very poetic today, Jay. I hear you.
What else we got here? All right, so did I, I thought I
was going to get to the rock'n'roll stuff a little bit
later, but yeah, I I understand it, but it's just way, way too
confusing. I mean, the the checkpoints to
get in. I I don't, I don't know how The
Black Crowes aren't in. I I don't get it.
Lauren Hill's not in. Pink's not in New editions, not
in. I mean, Iron Maiden finally got
in. What are we doing here, man?
Motorhead's not in. Finn Lizzy's not in.
Nas is not in. What are we doing?
That's what I read this morning. Yeah, I believe he's been
rejected. I believe, and I read it quick,
that a lot of different bands, I was trying to get the whole
cross section, you know, rock and rap and whatever.
If there was some disco bands from the 70s, whatever.
I, I, I thought I read very quickly that Nas has been
rejected. He, he's been up for nomination
I want to say either 8 or 9 times and he's old for 8:00 or
old for 9:00. What are we doing?
It's Nas the greatest. Rap album of all time I forgot
about. That not for me.
Is that for you Top? Three top top 3, not 3, probably
not one, it's probably 2. And then what would?
Number one be so with Jay-Z we go Lord forgive me the.
College Dropout by Kanye West Kanye.
Wow. He, I mean, he's, he's.
My guy through and through I got.
Still, even even crazy Kanye. I got you.
No, you're gonna roll with your dog, man.
Don't abandoned Kanye just because society says that you
should have some scruples. Have a backbone.
There you go. I like Conway.
Conway, You like Conway? You like Con Kanye?
You like him? You know, I love them.
I'm a big fan. I've never.
Downloaded a Kanye West song and there's a couple that like if I
hear I'm like that's an old I was going back in the day.
Never downloaded one Kanye song. If I was to, I mean, I, I got to
always Beastie Boys are always, I mean that's, that's like my
Babe Ruth, like Beastie Boys, you know, a license to I'll
drop. That was in the 7th grade.
I had the cassette. I mean, come on, I was banging
it ever rhyming and stealing. Oh my God, I was.
Listening over. Fear.
Were you really? Yeah, of.
Course, man, of course. BC boys are still in the
rotation. Yeah, you know, shake your rump.
I love that song. OK?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If I don't, but I don't I can't
count the boys because they're just different.
If I had to pick, this is going to get me in troubles in East
Coast, you know, New York City guy.
I honestly there there was just something about Snoop and Drake
where I'm like, yo, this is this is insane.
I mean, got to get yourself the chronic.
I mean. Musically, I think he was just
on a doctor. Dre is just on a different level
than most other people. Like instrumentally, you know,
just beat wise, he's the best. That's right, I know.
He obviously, you know, he he took Eminem and he and he and he
and Eminem was with D12, I believe before that right back
in the day with D12. But the Dre like I don't know
any D12 hits. I I just don't.
So there's. There's one song, they have one,
It's called My Band. It's a pretty, it's like a very
Eminem, tongue in cheek song about how he's like the lead
singer of his band and all his bandmates hate him.
It's a funny, Yeah, it's a, it's a good one is.
Is he still friends with any of those guys?
They're all I'd assume, yeah. Yeah, they're all from Detroit.
I'd assume they're still buddies.
Wow. All right, Yeah.
But I mean, to me when first, when it was obviously the
chronic and doggy style, I just couldn't get enough of that.
Like that was on loop. I told you we would play.
We would play doggy style. Me and my buddy Dan, before
this, when we lived off campus in college, before we go out,
that's what we would play, you know, and he was, you know, Dan
loves his weed still to this point.
You know and. Even then, even as an athlete,
like he just, he's the kind of guy that can, you know, smoke
something and just walk into a boardroom and you would never
know. Like you would never know.
Like he is a he plays golf, he hits at 300 yards and you know,
he's doing whatever he's doing on the side.
He's one of those guys. But so he actually introduced me
to some of that. Like he didn't introduce me to
Led Zepp, but he got me to Pink Floyd and I love Floyd.
Roger Waters is nuts, but I but I love Pink Floyd and and I got
him into that stuff like, you know, even though those guys are
from the West Coast, but because he's a Rockland County, a little
bit of an upstate guy. So he wasn't listening to what I
was listening to in Brooklyn and I wasn't listening to what he
was listening to in the burbs. That was cool.
So, and he had this great old system that we're talking, you
know, basically mid 90s basically.
And we would just crank that up before, you know, you, you
taking the shower, you getting the, the button down shirt on,
you go to the bar, you get the hat and you would just hear and
it had a good base. So you would just hear it
reverberating throughout our entire bar I.
Wish our generation grew up with like sound systems.
It's like how we listen to music because it's like it's all just
been like the small speakers or the phones.
Also just quick side funny dog doggy style story.
When I was like a child, like 7-8, my dad would like play that
album and like N.W.A Straight Outta Compton for me and
Compton. And it would, I remember I would
cry like it would scare me because it would He was just
like, he was like swearing so much.
I thought it was just like, I thought it was like evil music.
Like I thought it was like, like just like bad person stuff.
And I would be like, turn it off.
I. Still, it's funny that you say
that because like I would, I would never play that in front
of my daughter and I don't even never never literally 0 out of 0
time that will not happen. And I, I, I don't even really, I
don't like proactively put it on and I'm in the car more with my
son because just a lot of long drives, baseball, whatever and
I'll put on. Actually.
Metaphor my, my serious subscription just ran out and I,
I love bouncing around like whether it's yacht rock or like
seventies, 80s. I mean, I hit the whole spiel
right. So I like to do that on these
long drives for, for baseball. So right now without that I, I
do, I really like it. I've got to renew it.
I'll put on like 104.3 classic rock and stuff like that.
And sometimes I put sports on the cartoon, usually not, and
not just because I'm not there anymore, just because I even
when I was there, I didn't really listen to it that much.
You know, I want to kind of decompress.
But like if I do put on from my phone and you know it, it's
wildly eclectic. You could go from Billy Joel to,
you know, to Snoop to the stones to some cheesy grease music to
Pink Floyd to Eminem to like, it's just all over the map, bro.
And like even when one of those song ACDC, when one of those
songs comes up, like and I hear a couple because it's the non
edited stuff and I hear a couple of I'll just kind of peer
through the rear view and I'm like, is he?
Is he understanding what's being said here?
It's always how old is he? He just.
Turned 11 earlier he's. Understanding.
I know he's got it. That's too funny.
A little bit more. Than I want him to, but you know
you can't shield them from that stuff forever.
All right, get some of those more get some more of those
texts up there. J Rod, my guy told you about the
The Jets collective episode #4 tomorrow night, myself and Jake
and Rich. You don't have to put it up.
You're good man. Jake and Rich and and myself.
Episode 4 at 7:00 tomorrow. Last week was pretty much all
draft stuff. Tomorrow will be all draft
stuff. And it leads us into this.
So MO is popping back in. Thank you MO, you have a Super
Bowl show for, for the draft like others.
OK, I told you there's, there's some business elements that are
still not yet fully buttoned up. I don't know if they'll come to
fruition. I hope they do.
If they do, then I will be doing something that would be separate
from this. If, if they don't, then I got to
go live during the draft. I, we absolutely have to go live
and we will go live. And you know, get yourself a
nice little pour, get yourself a nice little whatever it is to
kick back and relax. And I'm in my Home Office and
boom, pop on the TV. Obviously you got to, you know,
you can't play it because you're a trademark and copyrights and
all that stuff. But yeah, I mean, how do you not
how do you not, you know, so I'm, I'm going to do that.
I'm going to do something. That's the long answer.
So I appreciate you asking there.
Oh, by the way, Jay Gio will be happy about this.
The the. Old the.
Glare. Oh.
There we go. Should be gone.
Today by guys coming today it took a while to make and they've
been busting hump and busting ass.
Dude took a while to make this, but if you could just get the
full screen up, so where the right underneath the B and the E
that's obviously illuminated this guy right over here, you
know that's going to be gone. You can.
This is one of my windows here. I mean, you can see the window
there and even where it's a little bit lighter on that side,
just kind of like the remnants of light.
It'll be like a matte finish and and then I I might mess around
with a few other things too, whether it's the book show you
said you liked, I like. The bookshelf.
I like the bookshelf element, yeah.
You said that I did that with Stephen A and you guys, if you
guys missed the combo with Steve couple of weeks back, go check
it out. He was for not two hours, me and
Steve just just cutting it up. It's got The Jets helmet there.
I got some cool, got the Emmy, got some cool stuff, got a, you
know, world map photo behind me. Yeah, I, I, I, I got to find a
way to incorporate some new stuff.
So we are working on that. So.
But at least the mat will that glare because, you know, like a
good put the eye black on soon, as I've said jokingly.
Now let me get to get to the Mets here.
Oh, my God, the Mets. You got three hits last night.
My good God, the Mets. Now Mendoza's got problems,
whether it's right or wrong, it's unavoidable.
Carlos Mendoza has issues. And if they're not resolved
soon, he's going to get fired. He's going to lose his job.
And at that point, it would be pretty hard to defend because it
would be in line with what I've said for a couple of months now.
So certainly wouldn't disagree with it.
And you don't want to see anybody lose their job.
Trust me, I went through it. It's it's it's not fun, you
know, and I'm sensitive to that. I truly do.
I don't, I don't want to be cavalier with I'll fire this
guy, get rid of that guy. They they expire him.
Like I always try to plot it out and, and really give a real
sense of what's fair and what's not.
And you know, and I don't mean, you know, if they lose tonight,
but I'm talking about like if this thing's not rectified and
it looks really bad out in LA and it's off to a wretched
start. Last night was basically
unwatchable, really. I talk about an anemic offense,
but and then it trickles into Chicago.
You know, if this continues, it's going to be booze in Queens
when they come back home. And then it might be untenable
and then Steve Cohen might might have to react and it wouldn't
be, you know, it wouldn't be an over the top reaction like it
wouldn't be anything. That's without justification
because this is the year of measurement for him.
You know, 2024 was really good NLCS.
And you dive into the numbers, right?
We all know 2024 good Caveman knows 2024 good, 2025 bad.
You know 20/20/26 split difference.
No kidding, we all know that. But in 2025, you know they were
45 and 24 to start. They finished 83 wins, no
playoffs. Year one with Soto.
Awful optics, but you dig even deeper into it.
So they were 38 and 55 after an outstanding start where they
were basically 2020 games above 500.
But then you even extrapolate a little bit deeper and they from
August 1st on, which is when everything went, the pitching
broke down. I mean, they could, they, they
were just oh God, they were, they were rough to watch like
now, although they hit more, but jeez, their pitching was
wretched. 21 and 32 from August 1st on.
So this is now a continuation, and that's a big problem for
Mendoza. It's a continuation of
lackluster, uninspired, you know, unbuttoned up, if you will
play. They're 7 and 10 now.
All right, so the August swoon, a rough start.
And think about this. You know, Adam Ottavino, who
bounced around baseball quite a bit.
No good pitcher. He destroyed Mendoza on his
podcast this was last year where he basically said Mendy has no
idea how to use a bullpen really went in on him.
You know, the Mets don't care. Mendoza doesn't care.
Just uses these guys too much and he doesn't he's got no feel
for, you know, when a guy needs a day off and he's just a little
bit cavalier. I'll use that word again.
Cavalier running guys out there when they probably just need to
sit and just kind of regenerate then come back the next night.
So there's a lot of smoke around this team right now and they
don't seem like they have the the like, I don't know, it
doesn't seem and and you need Soto back before you make any
ultimate decision. And I want to grant Mendoza that
that runway, you know, it's, you know, because this is also a
Stearns issue, guys, this is not just about the manager.
I mean, the Mets took a Wrecking Ball to their roster, which I
believe was the right move. And I've said that, but it's one
thing for me to think it I'm not the GM.
And then when you execute it, you know, and you let Pete walk
and you ship out Nemo, who by the way, looks fantastic for the
Texas Rangers right now. He's hitting the heck out of it.
You know, you messed up the the Daniel Diaz blue was saved the
other night, but you messed up the Diaz stuff and for what,
three more $1,000,000? You really didn't give him a
chance to come back and maybe accept your offer.
So from a critical point of view, just the business aspect
that looks sloppy. It looked a little disjointed,
you know, and then they they broke up the core, which again,
I thought that they had to. But again, my job is to talk
about sports, OK, and create content and create compelling
stuff. My job is not to structure a
roster for the Mets so you know, whether they win 109 games and
win the World Series or, you know, win 83 games again and
failed to make the playoffs again with set with Soto here
year, really it's no sweat off my back.
I'd like to see the Mets be good because it's better for
business. It's fun when the Yankees and
the Mets are both really, really good and really, really viable
because it keeps in play the possibility which we never get.
Although let's face it, the one time we did get it last, we all
know who won that will be the Yankees, the 2000 Subway Series.
Like I I, you know, I'm not a met hater.
I know some of you think that I am a bot.
I'm a baseball observer who happens to be a Yankee fan who
crushes the Yankees when it's, you know, necessary cash men
Target 1, you know, and all the other issues with the Yankees
who I'll get to in a minute, even though they won last night.
I just don't know how long this is going to go on.
I, I really, really don't. He signed.
It was a three-year deal and this is year 32027's A-Team
option. So there's no nothing Cohen
cares about money. There's no monetary connection.
There's no like financial impediment.
Like, wow, we just gave him a three-year extension.
All right, let's give him a rope here.
You better fix this man. Now, the good thing is there's a
lot of teams in baseball that are very I noticed this last
night. Like nobody's running away with
anything. Like obviously the Dodgers are
phenomenal, but you look around baseball, every division is
really, really crowded. So when the Yankees trying to
figure things out with their hitting, when the Mets try to
figure things out with basically everything, you got a lot of to
think about this guys the American League East right now,
Baltimores 9 and seven Yanks are nine and seven, Razor 8 and 7.
Blue Jays are look a little, you know, under at 6:00 and 9:00 and
and the Red Sox, even with that good pitching, are 6 and 10,
right? So to me, that's the best
division in baseball. And I I think it will still be
that way. But it's all said and done very
bunched together. Nobody's running away.
So no real pressure right there, even if the optics aren't good.
And during the five game losing streak, they weren't for the
Yankees to get to the Central. I mean, the Twins, I don't think
they stay there, that's for sure.
They lead the way with the Guardians.
Guardians are good, 10 and seven each, right?
You know, Royals 7 and 9, Tigers 7 and 9, White Sox 6 and 10
Jumbled. Now you get to the West.
The Rangers with memo nine and seven.
The A's are 8 and eight. You know the Angels last night,
they could easily beat the Yankees.
They're 8 and 9. Seattle, 8:00 and 9:00, and the
Astros are 6:00 and 11:00. Every team.
In the American League is within a game or two of each other.
It's insane. Then you get to the Mets
division now, All right, so the Braves have played 17 games.
If the Braves are like 13 and 4:12 and 5:00, this would look a
little different. It would feel a little
different. They're not pulling away yet.
Now they might. They got a really good team.
I like the Braves. I think the Braves probably, you
know, they're pitching some injuries.
I I think the Braves are, well, yeah, I don't know if I'm going
to just say that they're the best team.
Phillies are good. Mets have, you know, I I don't
know, it's close, right? But the Braves are 10 and 7.
The Marlins are 9:00 and 8:00. You got the Phillies at 8:00 and
8:00. Mets 7 and 10 behind.
The Mets are in last place. And then again, you know,
Pirates 10 and six, and they got 9 and 78 and 7-8 and eight,
seven and nine in succession. Reds, Brewers, Cardinals,
Cubbies. The only team that's rocking the
Dodgers, who are 12 and 4. Padres look good after a really
slow start. They've actually cranked things
up. San Diego's ten and six
Diamondbacks got some good players.
Obviously. Corbin Carroll's a young star.
We know that. They're nine and eight.
The Giants can't hit. We saw the Yankees open up with
them 6 and 10. They stink.
And the Rockies, who are awful, they're even 6 and 10.
So the pressure is not there. Like the immediate pressure is
not there. But that only lasts for so long.
And it is going to be incredibly interesting to get a real read
on Cohen and his lack of tolerance for being embarrassed.
Because Steve Cohen, I don't care if he's got $15 billion net
worth, which I believe he might even be higher by now.
I think it's 15. But in the neighborhood, I don't
care if you got $100 billion, the money stuff is 1 aspect of
it. And even with all that money,
when you're that affluent, you don't want to lose money.
You don't want to flush money down the chute because the
reason you got to that point is through savvy investing acumen,
you know what I mean? Or unless you were born into it,
you know, like some others. But I'm not talking about that.
Somehow for the most part, self-made people, right?
And you take great pride in that.
And when you cut big checks, as Steve Cohen does, and your team
looks listless and disconnected and not mentally engaged, you're
not putting up with it for a whole lot longer.
You just not, you know, so the stuff with Pete, all right, 30
years old, righty, righty first baseman, not a good athlete.
How's he going to age? All right, That was baseball
stuff. Nimmo, weak arm, some injuries
the last couple of years, lower extremities, right?
He's had some of those issues on base percentage for Nimmo last
couple of years incrementally, you know, shrunk by year going
in the wrong direction. You know the Diaz thing I
mentioned, but then there was also the thought was it was it
politically fueled? I don't know.
I mean, to be honest with you kind of feels that way given
Lindor situation. But I I don't know, I can't
prove that. But the point is, is that Cohen
is watching this and you know that he's pissed and he's not
going to tolerate it for much longer.
So it's probably be wise for Mendoza.
Not that he's not trying. I know that he is, but trying is
one thing, doing is another, and he ain't doing.
He ain't do it the end of last year and he's not doing this
year. And they brought in Correa, who
was right next to him on the bench for a reason.
All right? And they've got their next
Lieutenant on the bench if they make a move in season.
So I think Evan even said this yesterday.
And Evans not one to jump the gun, like I respect that about
Evan. You know, I think Evan is.
I didn't listen. He loves sports, that goes
without saying. But I think Evan's pretty
measured with this stuff. And I saw somewhere on on social
media, you know, even Evan was saying that.
And and I agree. I really think that's the only
way to process this. Like you don't just get an
unlimited amount of runway to get your act together.
I mean, this is big boy businessman.
This isn't like low level high school ball where the coach
goes, you know, 16 and 14. And at the awards banquet, all
the parents are happy just because they had fun.
Like, you better win, man. You better win.
And I got to tell you this, too. Now I get to the Yankee bullpen,
get some more, some more of these chats.
The difference to me, now I know it.
I know it drives Yankee fans nuts.
A lot of the things that Aaron Boone says, even when they're
losing, right? We'll get it going.
You know, hey, we had some good at bats.
We're not far away. This guy's a really good player.
This guy's got a really good history.
He's done it before. We fully expect he's going to do
it again. Like these are some of the
default things that that Boone reaches for.
But the difference with Boone, and even if that drives you
nuts, and I know it does drive many of you nuts, the difference
with Aaron Boone and the difference to me with Mendoza
when they talk about the situations, when the situations
are not good, is that Boone's got a track record of figuring
things out now. I mean, to the point where he's
won a World Series. Yeah.
He's the longest tenured Yankee manager without a World Series.
Matter of fact, we were going to.
I told you, But my daughter had a softball game, and then my son
had a hoops game, and we had to lead the softball game like an
inning early for me to get him to his basketball game.
But the Yankee game on right, her judge's home run and my son
asked me, he said, do you think Boone's going to get fired
because they weren't you know that up this before they snap
the five game skid. I said no, I said they're not
going to fire many times too. And I said, but I said, you
know, listen, at the end of the year, if it doesn't look good, I
feel like this is the year that Boone's going to be out of a
job. And at that point you'd be OK
with you'd have to be. You know, as much as I love
Boone, I mean, you don't get unlimited runway like I just
said with Mendoza to win a championship if you're the
Yankees manager. And I was explaining to my son,
I said, you know, no Yankee manager.
I said, he just got his 800th win the other day.
I said, but no Yankee manager has had, you know, that amount
of wins and and that long tenure without world's championship.
So that's, you know, that's one form of evaluation.
And it's obviously very, very different for how then from
George. But the point is, you know, you
can mock it. You know, you can talk about it.
You know, we heard this before. If Boone says stuff after a
rough game or a bad moment or a guy who his head is in space,
like you'll not know the rule book or whatever it might be.
Last year in Miami when Jazz was, you know, doubled off
secular first. But like he did the the the
excuses or the contextualization, I think of
excuses does bother me. But I also understand that he's
just not going to railroad his guys.
So I don't go nuts on that anymore because it's not what
he's going to do. I believe behind closed doors
he's doing a little bit, but the point also remains, you know, if
you do it behind closed doors and you want to respect that the
players reputation and not do it for the entire media to react
to, if they don't adjust to what you're saying behind closed
doors, then you might not be doing it well enough.
And that's a different conversation.
But I I feel different maybe because the Yankees have been
better than the Mets. I just feel different when Boone
says what he says and when Mendoza says what he says.
Like I remember saying this last year, go Google it.
Like, there's there's, you know, YouTube videos from, you know,
the show, midday show and articles, whatever it might be.
I just don't feel like when Mendoza says we're going to be
good, we're going to be fine. I don't really feel it.
I don't really believe it. And it's not.
Yeah. It's about Mendoza, and it's
also a lot largely about the Mets lack of track record as an
organization, which is unfair to fully lump that or drop that at
Mendoza's doorstep, which I'm not doing.
But you know, he's I think he says the same thing over and
over. And you know, when the message
is not resonating and the team looks sluggish and you've got a
monstrosity of a pay of a payroll and you've got your
owner like last year, imploring fans to show up.
Hey, I'm spending for you. Come show up.
I got news for you, Cohen. They're going to show up.
They're going to Boo your team because your team looks awful.
I mean, your team looks inept. The New York Mets look like a
doormat right now. I don't think that they'll be
that when it's all said and done.
But that's what they look like. So the onus isn't on me to fix
it. The onus is on Mendoza to get it
right. And if he doesn't, he's out.
It's going to be that simple. And I don't think it's going to
last more than certainly want Soto back.
As I've said a few times, like if this is not rectified within
a month, he's gone. He's gone.
How do you read that at Cheryl? What do you got?
How would you, Cheryl? SF3Y, thank you very.
Much Beltron be great for the Mets, though they also now have
JD Martinez, so there's a couple of Mendoza replacements that are
easily accessible. Yeah.
I mean, think about think about what the.
And I like this and I love them for it.
Think about what the Mets have done in the last, you know, when
did JD come back? About a week or so ago.
So they are now obviously aware that something's awry.
To what extent, I don't know. Clubhouse relation, I don't
know. All right.
But they bring in JD Martinez, they bring back Tommy Pham, who
started last night. And you know, the thought is,
you know, he can get the clubhouse in order.
I mean, you know, with the $325 million payroll, he shouldn't
need to bring in Tommy Pham. He just shouldn't need to do it.
Like, if you want to start the season with Tommy Pham as a
fourth outfielder, pinch hitter, good clubhouse guy, tough as
nails, no bullshit, Fine. I mean, a lot of teams do that.
That's great. That used to be the older model
back in the day when and the games obviously changed
economically here. But for a long time, those
veterans, you know, they would just bounce around that Chilly
Davis was actually still pretty viable with the Yankees.
But a guy like Chilly Davis or Tim Reines at the end, who is
also still pretty viable. But guys like that, you know,
the veterans I'm thinking about, like I remember the 86 Mets
brought back Lee Mazzilli and they got rid of George Foster.
Foster was a bit of a malcontent, was kind of
chirping, whatever it was back then.
They brought back Maz to keep things fresh and he didn't play
that much, but to keep it healthy, keep it upbeat, you
know, And now it's really those last couple of the roster spots.
You know, Rusty Stop is a pinch hitter.
Think about the older pinch hitters, Regrando Raj, Rusty,
you know, those guys would would squeeze an extra 2-3 years, four
years sometimes out of their baseball existence because there
there was a place for them to land as a sage voice, as a pinch
hitter and then maybe eventually transition into a coaching role
right on an ancillary level. But now it's like all really the
roster 20, you know, say slots 20 through 25.
They're pretty much all young, young kids, you know, non stars.
It is. It's a different dynamic.
So I like that they brought in Tommy Pham.
I think Tommy Pham is a no nonsense, you know, MF or you
don't want to mess around with. And I think that they need that
little kick in the ass there. But should it really be
necessary at this point? That's my point.
If the leadership was where it was supposed to be, Lindor, if
the production was where it was supposed to be many, including
Lindor, but others, you wouldn't need Tommy Pham.
Like the Mets didn't feel like they needed to start the year
with Tommy Pham on the Opening Day roster.
So why now? I mean, I know Sonos hurt, so
maybe that's a little part of it.
But yeah, I don't know. And it is amazing.
I listen, I've watched baseball forever, if you told me and he
wasn't hurt, although, you know, coming off the handmade injury,
all that stuff. It is tax day, right?
I think it's April 15th, right? So we did.
That was a while ago, but I think it's April 15th, right?
If you told me that like, I don't know, 17 games in
Francisco, Lindor would not have an RBI, not an RBI, not a little
roll over to the right side, not a little number, not a little
bloop, not a SAC fly. Forget about a two run double
like 0. That is one of the most
astounding early season figure like stats that I that I've come
across in a long time. And you just look no home runs,
no RBIs. It is perplexing.
Now, if the hand hurts, then he shouldn't be playing.
And you know, yesterday I was all over Lindor.
So if you missed it, you want to check it out, go and do it.
But I think that if Francisco Lindor, I've heard, I've heard
others and I've seen others now weighing on this.
Well, maybe he's feeling the after effects of of a concussion
that went undiagnosed when he got tagged out of the plate.
That's when remember obviously trying to score from first on
the double by one Soto late in that game and got thrown out
kind of an odd slide got hit in the head.
I mean, I hope not because concussions you don't mess
around with that. But like, I mean, it is 3 weeks
ago, man. I mean it's basically Saint
Patty's Day like a like a week after that.
If it's still undiagnosed or there's still the remnants of a
concussion, well #1 Lindor's got to say something #2 the Mets
medical staff needs to recognize that.
So to me, and that was gaining a lot of traction.
I I think evident Tekin may have even said that yet.
I didn't hear it, but I saw that on X.
I'm not buying that why? I mean, the after effects of a
concussion, well, a concussion was never even reported, so why
are we going to lean on that now?
He always starts slow, Mom. He's had one or two good starts
with the Mets, but you know, basically four or five of the
six years he's been here have been very slow offensive
outputs. And to attribute it to being hit
in the head on a plate, the plate for having no RBI's.
But I'd rather hear about the hand.
That's one thing that's going to ZAP you of your power.
You know, he got a late start, spring training, catching up,
blah, blah, blah. All right.
To me, that's a more sensible, viable baseball, not even
excuse, but context of a rough start by Lindor after effects, a
concussion. What concussion did he have?
Where was the report? I know the Yankees messed that
up the dopes with with with that situation with Rizzo a couple of
years ago. And if that's the case, then
shame on the Mets and shame on Lindor.
You got to say something. You have to.
All right, what do we got? What else we got there, Jay?
What do we got here? Boone.
Oh, there's no question. Well, let's see.
Here, let me read the whole thing at Avery Summit.
Boone is safer than Mendoza, not due to performance, but because
he's more aligned than In Sync with cash.
But how? While the Mets organization
doesn't seem to be as smoothly aligned as such.
I think that that's fair. Now, is it truly aligned?
Yeah, I mean it. But.
But is it philosophically aligned?
I, I do think it is. I do think the Yankees are, are
fairly philosophically aligned now, I'm sure like if I'm
sitting with Boone, you know, before the BT and South live
show, whatever, and he knows there's no cameras around that
we're having a little drink, whatever, before we go on stage,
which we did. And, you know, nobody else is
around. And I'm like, dude, you really
like this roster. I know that he espouses a lot
that he loves it. But like, if he was truly
honest, you know, Aaron Boone's a baseball man.
There's no way he loved the fact that his shortstop situation is
a disaster. Third base is a disaster.
The catcher can't hit his second.
Baseman's a space cadet. I mean, his bullpen is in
shambles, which I'll get to in a moment.
So I do, like, philosophically. Are they in alignment?
Yeah, but maybe not as much as you think.
But consistency and familiarity leads to comfort.
So it's a relationship that has been very good.
It just has not been great because there's no
championships. Whereas with the Mets, you know,
you had Cohen got here tumultuous for, you know, not
his fault. Some of these GMs they brought
in my God, wow. Some of the matters managers
they've I'm not talking about buck, but some of the recent
string of managers and some volatility there before buck.
All right, So but that's that's OK because it's new ownership
and you try to figure things out.
Do I think that Cohen and Stearns and Mendoza are aligned
as the Yankees trio? No, but that's only because it's
been the last time. Yeah.
So I, I, I don't think that you're wrong, Avery, but I don't
know that it's rude in anything other than, you know, three guys
have worked together for, you know, basically a decade and Hal
and Cash have worked together forever.
And, you know, Cohen's a fairly new owner and Stearns is a, is a
young general manager and Mendy's, you know, when he was
hired, he's the first, first year skipper.
You know, those things are true. All right, So I was looking up
right, the Yankees bullpen and I was trying to get a sit like,
you know, the Yankees bullpen. They've had some versions that I
have not liked, obviously. Now that's what about the, the
the Mariano stuff. You go back to the start of the
dynasty and you know it was on lock 789.
Obviously in the championship, Wetland was the closer.
MO was before that. And then when MO took over,
moving on after the 96 championship, you know, you had
the Stanton's and the Jeff Nelson's and like the Mendoza,
Ramiro Mendoza's earlier on. Yanks always have a good
bullpen. And one thing that Cashman
really does very well is, you know, uncover some hidden gems
and, you know, repackage and identify guys who were somewhere
else. And they come here and they
carve out viable roles. But this, this Yankee bullpen,
this version is without salvation.
It's terrible. This Yankee bullpen is not not
good enough. And I don't care what happens
tonight. I don't care what happens the
next month. I like Bednar, I do.
I know his numbers stink, but he's a bulldog and I do trust
him as much as you can. Somebody who's blown a couple.
But I just think that, you know, outside of, you know, Moe and
Devin Williams before he came to the Yankees and you know, Diaz,
you know, with the Mets and it's just not many like that, that
it's kind of a volatile position, you know, So I don't
want to overreact to Bednar, spit in the bit a little bit
this year. I'm not really talking to him,
but that's kind of his MO. You know, walk a guy, you know,
dance around the strike zone, go deep and counts, just strike
somebody out. There's a blue base hit first
and second one out. I got a wiggle out of it.
Then he buckles down. I think he's got massive guts
and I trust him. Like there's certain guys like
Devin Williams was worrying me last day because it's I'm like,
maybe this dude is not built for New York.
I actually think he is because if he wasn't he, I don't think
he would have rebounded the way he did.
I think it'd be fine for the Mets if the Mets could ever get
him a freaking lead. But what's before Bednar is just
unacceptably awful. Jake Bird already sent to the
minors. Now the bad news is, is that
it's it's it's just wretched. It is not even close to being
championship worthy. That's the bad slash obvious
news. The good news is, is that there
are solutions and the solutions are going to come when the
starters get healthy. Freed Cold, Schlittler, Roldan
All right, those in in whatever word you want to put those going
to be the four right. And then, you know Weathers who
who has great stuff. I think Weathers, you know, he's
probably going to stay at #5 I think what's going to happen, I
think there's going to be 3 arms that become incredible #1 going
to make a trade like they always do with the deadline for some
arm, right? Got a couple of young guys to
the Miners who throw absolute cheese, who I know they love and
trust. So they'll be here as well.
So there's bad news, but I think it's kind of overshadowed by
good news. I think this will resolve
itself. You just got to have the stomach
to deal with some late implosions and some three hour
and 20 minute games. Because the bullpen stinks, as I
said, right? And it's not going to get better
starting tonight. It's going to get better in a
month or two or three. Now, I think what's going to
happen if I were the Yankees, I mean, I shouldn't say I think
this is what's going to happen. Here's what I would do if I was
running the Yankees. When those guys, when Rodan and
Gary Cole come back, will Warren's going to the bullpen?
Will Warren's not a starter in my opinion, because there's you
look up every single, will Warren start?
He's going to have strikeouts and I think he's got good stuff.
I'm not disparaging him, but when I look at what he's built
for, his pitch count just gets too high too fast.
Every single start. It's untenable.
So it's a problem because he never goes deep.
And then obviously, you know, you've got to bring the bullpen
and then now residually downstream, whether it's that
series or later that week or later that month or later that
year, you just got you got a world of problems because people
always bail him out and and the prop.
The same thing will probably happen with Ryan Weathers, who
has more electric stuff. Than will war and will war again
will war has good stuff lot of strikeouts as a rookie.
I think he may have had the most of of any no second.
I think the second most case of any rookie.
I'm not saying he's not viable. He's going to be on this team
and he's going to get some important outs, but he's not
going to be a starter. I I don't think what it's all
said and done and you've got an option here.
If two of these three guys pop right and they become trusted,
reliable, higher leverage arms, then the Yankees pitching staff,
one through 12, whatever. And you'll carry the extra guy
once in a while here, you know, done 13.
But I'll say one through 12, Yankees pitching staff has a
chance, like I've always said, to be the best in baseball.
Now, the rotation, absolutely. But how about Will Warren in the
pen, Louise Hill in the bullpen and Clark Schmidt eventually in
the bullpen? And if you want to tell me when
Clark Schmidt comes back, well, then maybe Will Warren, Louise
Hill, Ryan Weathers in the bullpen, Clark Schmidt, 5th
starter. Like there are internal options,
not to mention on the trade market, which the Yankees will
eventually tap into. So you just got to have the
stomach to deal with this nonsense every night.
I'll tell you though, last night was fun number one.
It was fun because the Yankees hit and it was fun because the
whole Trout Judge thing was awesome.
I was telling you guys, I was down in Millville, NJ this
weekend for a baseball tournament, the home of Mike
Trout. So my son's too young.
Like, you know, he know he knows who Mike Trout is, but he
doesn't know what Mike Trout was.
I'm like, dude, this he was basically he was this
generations Willie Mays early, like MVPMVP, second in the MVP
that way, just the perfect combination, speed, strength,
power, defense, 5 tool ratio, built like a linebacker, ran
like a corner, you know, hit like a a slugger, high average,
just unbelievable. So it was pretty cool.
It's since we were just down there and you know, I'm like you
got to see, I got to show you some highlights of my trout like
I'll I'll do that with I did it with Griffey.
Obviously he's you've seen a million Mattingly highlights,
but so I showed him a little Mike Trout montage last night.
He's like, wow, he's like he really could run.
I'm like, yeah, I mean, you know, I don't know what his
sixty time was, but I would have to guess Mike Trout when he was
a kid, Mike Trout was running a 6-5, maybe 6 high 64.
So it was good to see a little bit of a throwback game for
Trout, who's been buried out there in Anaheim forever and you
know, go deep twice. And how about the second home
run when they throw up in it? I love this, you know, I listen,
I will even say this, you know, and you know what, when I
played, guys didn't throw up and in much, you know, I got hit a
bunch. But I it it like Pedro Clemens,
like you didn't get that in college too much in high school.
If you got hit and pretty much got away from you.
I remember one time this pitcher threw behind me, which was
really like totally under actually, that probably would
have hurt my back if I think about it, because he was a left
hand, was a lefty hitter and one of my buddies in a home run.
But he was overly celebrating. I forget what it was.
He threw the ball behind me. And you are conditioned to, as a
young hitter to turn away from the ball, duck your head, take
it on the, you know, the meaty part, the skeleton of the bone,
whatever. But when the balls behind you,
you like, it's just, it's a weird reaction.
And you know, I don't think because I don't think I well, I
know I never saw anybody throwing 100.
I think the hardest I ever dug in, there was a kid from NC
State who just absolutely toyed with us these all of us was
throwing like 94. And I believe his name was his
nickname was Pork Chop Wallace. His name was his last name was
Wallace, I think. And he was the quarterback for
NC State as well. And he threw like, I remember
there were a lot of scouts there when we played them.
And one of my one of my teammates said he sold the gun
94. Like back then there was just no
data. You just you had to guess.
And I'm like, this is this is different, you know, but I don't
know how these major leaguers, how I watch baseball every
night. And the thing that probably
amazes me more than anything is for you to dig in there.
Somebody throw one up and in like at your head, under your
chin, right? And then you just don't even
flinch. Not only do you not flinch, but
you hit a home run a pitch or two later like Aaron Judge, like
this thing can kill you, as we know.
And that's why they're different.
They are just different. So did you first to see Judge do
that? As I don't, I can't stand this
Yankee lineup. You know that.
I want them to get rid of Jazz. I love Ben Rice.
Judge is the man Grisham's been a disaster until last night.
You know, Stanton's going to start hitting some bombs.
So like the Yankees will hit a little bit more.
But I I don't like this line up as you know, but the the the
home runs by Grisham last night. I mean, Judge is going to do
that, but the home runs by Grisham that may have that might
be a little bit of a checkpoint. Like we kind of circle, hey,
remember when Grisham came off the bench, hit that big pitch at
home run that hit another one to tie it up at you?
Like who knows? I'm not going to go nuts because
I don't like this Yankee lineup. And the bullpen is not good
until they do the adjustments, which I believe they eventually
will. But it just always amazes me to
see a a spherical object coming at you 9790901-O1 with action
and man, oh man. And then you just not you don't
give an inch and then you go yard or you hit a bullet through
the box. It's it's amazing.
It they that's why they are different.
MO MO cage is very generous today.
Thank you. Bo is MO new I believe.
So I believe is. New I, I I.
Mean I'll have him answer in the chat I guess.
Maybe, but I believe this is a new new face I'm seeing here.
New I thought I. Thought so.
Thank you, MO. All right, we got another one.
Here you go. Build things out.
Welcome to the fam, MO. If I had a team at a sport with
no salary cap and I'm a billionaire, we'll have a super
team in a year or two. Yeah.
Yeah, I I do agree with that. I think that there's a couple of
things, depends on the sport. You know, like football, you can
go out there and you can just go bonkers and free agency.
But NFL free agency for me is not a viable way to build the
team. It is a a viable way to
accessorize a team. You know, you go out there, you
get that, you know, one or two like, yeah, we need a we need an
extra quarter. We need a nickel corner.
You know, we need an offensive lineman like Linda Baum,
somebody like that who got paid big bucks MO Y back in the day
for The Jets like that, that that that's that's a stunt move
there. But I think a lot of NFL teams
chase bad money because this these contracts that even though
you could, they're voidable and get out of it as fungible the
money as we know. You know, if you are trying to
build an NFL power free agency, good luck because a lot of these
guys that hit free agency hit free agency for a reason.
And it's a game of the ultimate attrition.
So who knows how that money's going to go.
So I would disagree. You would try, but you would not
have a super team in the NFLI. Don't care if you have $197
billion net worth portfolio. You can't buy a good football
team #1 in the NBA you got to get lucky.
You know, you got to get lucky with somebody like a Kate
Cunningham or, you know, lucky. And now, well, I think the Heat
kind of created their luck by being well run with Pat Riley
and and that stuff. But have LeBron go to you or
have Shaq go to the Lakers after the Magic.
Stuff like that. When Jerry West recruited him
and he left Orlando, that set off a mini dynasty with the
Lakers. Like OK if you can do that, God
bless you. But you still eventually have to
do like Kobe was drafted. Magic was drafted by the Lakers.
Kareem was not. Kareem was drafted by the Bucks
as we know other dynasties, you know, the Warriors, Klay
Thompson, I mean, obviously Steph, but I'm talking about the
previous. Well, I mean the last Lakers
died the the last Warriors dynasty Steph drafted by the
Warriors, Klay Thompson drafted by the Warriors, Draymond Green
second round pick, drafted by the Warriors.
Then once you have that, that appealing, you know, home base,
if you will. Well now, hey KD, that looks
good, man. I'm going to join those guys
over there. I'm going to go win with those
dudes, man. That looks fun, you know?
So I think the one sport where it's probably the easiest would
be baseball. But now that's kind of offset a
little bit by the randomness of the sport.
If you've got the best NBA team and you've got a LeBron in your
prime or in his prime and Dwyane Wade and you get a boss who's a
Hall of Famer, you can win. You just going to win.
But you know the Yankees do I think the Yankees were better
than the Diamondbacks in O1. I do you know, but broken bat
base hit off the best closer, maybe the best pitcher, along
with a Pedro and a Seaver and some of the older names, Cy
Young, Walter Johnson, names like that.
You know, Sandy Koufax, Mariano gives up a broken bat.
Believe the Yanks lose the World Series.
That's probably not going to happen in the NBA.
So I I get the sentiment. I hear you.
It's probably easiest to construct the power in baseball
because you can just go out and buy your bike.
If you say if I own the Yankees now, I would have my outfit
first. I would have said qualify.
I don't care about the draft pick.
Whatever, Tred Grisham get lost. You're not playing here anymore,
right? So if I own the Yankees, I would
have Yep, I would have bought Max Freed.
I would be I would have won the Soto sweepstakes again.
Easy easy to say now, but but I would have just kept going like
to the point of the text there or the chat.
Keep going. You're a billionaire.
Hey, I want Sodo. All right, Mets offer you what?
All right, we'll do this. We'll do Yep, let's keep playing
long game cards. Yep, I'm in here's my chips
Mets, you done? I'm going to play this game all
day and then you get Sodo. So you got and then maybe what
you do is you go out there and you get Tucker who's not off to
a great start, but whatever or you would have won the Yamamoto
sweepstakes a couple years ago. You make sure that you win the
Terek Skubal sweepstakes or I don't think now he's going to
hit free agency. I think Schoolbo will.
I think even though that's the wrong move, that's a dumb move
by the Tigers. He's much more inclined to hit
it before compared to somebody like Paul Skeens, who's got
multiple years of controllability.
So I think that he'll be dealt probably more so than schemes,
even though both could conceivably get dealt.
But the point is, Skeens hits the open market.
Come on, let's go. You know I'll be a Yankee or
whatever team you own. Here you go.
Blank check. Come on, Like, yeah, you can
control that more than the other sports.
I get it. But you know, one of the
differences here, and that's why the Yankees always enjoy that
massive financial edge. You you want to go go back and
look at some of the late 90 and early 2000 payrolls, you know,
even up to the O 9 championship with the Yankees spend $250
million bringing in CC to share AJ Burnett to win the
championship, right, to help them get in a position to win
the championship after O8, right with the new stadium in O9,
etcetera. But before that, I mean, it was
like the Yankees had years where they were out spending, you
know, teams who were like 2nd, 4th, 7th by 30, forty $70
million. Like the disparity was glaring.
It was massive and you know, George just had a lot more
money. It was a different financial
pool, economic pool, terms of like the Rogers Group that owns
Toronto, the ownership group that took over the Dodgers,
Cohen that took over the Mets and some real money out there
and how by those standards standards is actually destitute.
I saw something. Was it Forbes, maybe even Forbes
the other day? J Rod, if I said to you, all
right, what are they, 30? I always get mixed up.
Are the 30 Major League teams? I I still all the sports messed
me up. There's 32 NBA teams, right?
No. 30 NBA teams you see. There's 324A12.
Yeah, there's 32 NFL teams. Yeah, and there's. 30 in
baseball or 32? I know it's pathetic.
I don't know this. MLB 5/10/15, I think it's 30.
Yeah, it's it should be 30 because you got 5 in each
division, right? Yep, Yep, Yep, Yep.
All right, so one through 30. If I said is the Yankees we're
talking about, what do you think Hal ranks in terms of net worth?
Hal Steinbrenner, owner of the Yankees.
OK. And it's been in the family
forever. Think about the ability to
monetize that brand, whether it was 6.
No, no, no. Keep going deeper than.
That yeah, 11 Keep going. 15 Keep going 20 keep going 2521 or
22 whoa. And I say only.
I guess it's because it's like it's an.
Older pass down money and it's not from like some big tech
organization or something like that you.
Just said it again. Organization, come on.
I love it. Organization, all right, I was
raised. I was born and raised to say or
no no born and raised. In the mean streets of Manitoba,
No, Jay. It's stunning because you know,
you think about this and George, the shipbuilding money, I think
George paid $10 million for the Yankees when he bought them in
in the early 70s. And then obviously, you know,
the Yankees were one of the first to, to really, you know,
be an attractive destination for that Japanese star.
You know, Mats Arabu didn't become a star, but they but they
monetized it. Obviously Matsui was and some
others along the way too. That's changed now.
Most go to the Dodgers, but the the family business is baseball
oriented, the owners of other teams, it's tech driven or other
like whether it's a target, maybe like the the I think the
Twins owner is the target. I think either way, when you're
21 or 22 in all the Major League Baseball and you still have a
top three payroll, that's why I think it's unfair when people
say how's cheap, how's not cheap?
Matter of fact, if you were to prorate and and like take a
percentage of net worth versus money reinvested into the team,
I think I would think that how would be #1 I, I would think the
difference is you just ain't. Got it like that It's true.
It's. True.
Like to me how it the big criticism, what how would be his
his patience. That's what bothers me.
Yeah. I think he's just too patient
with some of the shortcomings. I I wish he was a little bit
more visible, not nutty like his pops, because that's not his
personality, but just a little bit more present, check in a
little bit more a little more intolerant to some of the things
that go on from a roster or production point of view.
But but that's just me. But no, it's yeah, he's like 21
or 22. Crazy.
All right, what else we got? Did I miss anything?
What do we got here? What do we got?
We good.
Nixon 5 All right, there we get 30 up 3232.
Let me. Throw that Nixon 5 on up real
quick and get Nixon 5. Yeah, I people are I'll do more
of this as we get deeper in the week.
Thank you. B You know, a lot of people
worried about the the Yankees up the Knicks in in this series.
Yeah, Raptors would have been a better matchup.
I mean, listen, I I think that the Knicks probably lose a game
down there, maybe a tight game real late where there's a little
guard magic early in the series. I I'd say right now probably
Nixon five. Yeah, I feel pretty good about
that. I I agree with that.
Easy. I mean, listen, the Hawks are a
little tough. CJ Mccomb's playing extremely
well. I've always liked.
Him. Yeah, I like him.
I've never watching him back at Lehigh.
I've always liked him. Yeah, Was it like when he was
still like a smaller dude, like 'cause the he was like one of
those guys who had like AI guess this might have been in high
school who had a ridiculous growth spurt, like freshman,
sophomore in high school. He was like 5 foot 10 or
something. Oh, you serious?
Wow. And there are pictures of him
and he literally looks like a baby, like on the basketball
court. And then like a year later.
Well, that's. Truth of the matter is like
that's the best way to be like if you were now this didn't
quite happen to him to this extent.
But if you, if you're growing up, but I mean, like basketball
is truly your sport and you're playing all year round and
you're playing AAU and you're not playing like two or three or
two other sports. So it's basketball, basketball,
and that's your focus and your guard, right.
And then all of a sudden, you know, sophomore to junior year,
you shoot up five inches. Now all of a sudden you're a
6-7, you know, guard who can handle and grew up playing
point. You got the vision, you got the
handle. You could you could obviously
learn how to defend against ones and pick and roll and all that
stuff. Like that's a separator that
that's actually quite common. No, I don't, I don't know.
I didn't even know that he was that small in high school, but I
just always. Just like always liked his.
His efficiency, just a lot of respects for CJ McCollum, always
out in Portland, Lehigh. As I said, great shooter,
clutch, steady, a stabilizer, good team guy.
All right, man, that's about it. That's all she wrote.
That is all she wrote. Put in about an hour 40 today.
There we go. Yep, Yep.
Just a reminder tomorrow episode #4 we got The Jets Collective
coming up as we was really, really holding just on the Jet
stuff specific to the draft. So make sure you check it out,
like it, sub it, hook it up. Rich left to right myself, Jake
Aspen. Check out Rich's article on ESPN
or just find it. I know he linked it obviously on
his ex account. It's really good about why he
and and others and so many personnel people chimed in about
why they're probably will never be another wide receiver taking
first overall because this is 30 years to the draft of of
Keyshawn first overall that USC to The Jets.
So, so check that out. We'll start moving more into the
NBA playoffs. Obviously only 9 days to the NFL
draft. We'll see if last night's
Yankees hitting explosion just a respite from what has ailed them
or, you know, maybe a little bit momentum and, you know, let's
see what happens with these Mets here.
I mean, nobody's running away with anything.
I just went through every division in baseball before.
So that's that's a saving grace. But if, you know, the Braves get
red hot or the Phillies get red hot and the Mets are sluggish
and the optics look the way they do, Mehndi's going to lose his
job as it's just going to happen.
You can't have that payroll with those expectations and flounder
last year after a great start, 54 and 25 and then, you know,
basically be 15 to 18 games under 500 from August 1st to the
end of the year, not make the playoffs year one with Juan
Soto, win 83 games and have a job for a couple of years.
It's not going to happen. So hopefully for his sake,
because I do like Carlos Mendoza, I did expect a little
bit more from these Mets and we'll see.
All right, so have an awesome rest of your Tuesday.
Got a bounce, J Rod. Have a good day, buddy.
OK. Yes, Sir.
All. Right there you go.
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