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With the mink man with the mink 
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Let's check this out Hang on, 
Mink. 

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Are we good? 
Make sure we're good here, make 

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sure everything. 
Oh, what does that mean? 

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Getting the picture there, 
buddy. 

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Now we get it's like it's like 
the broadcast. 

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Well, I don't know why that 
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What's going on, everybody, we 
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I want to try to get that dude 
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it's not letting me do that. 
All right, so we are we're in 

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the team hotel here. 
We had a nice little breakfast, 

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you and I and we are getting 
ready for tonight, which is 

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going to be absolutely awesome. 
It's going to be so much fun. 

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This day is going to go so slow.
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other thing like when you know, 
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San Diego, but I certainly felt 
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I'm like, all right, especially 
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go. 
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slow. 
So we need to get a sense of how

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the vocal cords, are they going 
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tonight? 
How are you feeling me? 

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I'm feeling pretty good and and 
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you take a look at the matchups 
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is to me, this is a final four 
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Any of the four team. 
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the winner of this particular 
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championship. 
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know for another day. 
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players like to be on that 
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that big stage, and announcers 
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Oh my God. 
I mean, that's we, we crave 

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this. 
Are you kidding me? 

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One thing that I noticed, I 
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The players, like everybody 
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John's is very calm, very 
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just in a like you almost 
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certainly not even close to 
being overwhelmed. 

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But it's just like a business as
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I what they're projecting, I 
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in the hotel walking around. 
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I think they follow the head 
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things in the way he continues 
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way, at least the practices that
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back in November. 
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that lead because if the head 
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confident, I think the players 
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Mink's got his notes there. 
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dive into some notes and all 
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dive into them yet Mink because 
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certainly, and this is for the 
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who's been waiting for this 
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lean years in between. 
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the journey and we'll get into 
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journey, you know, let's let's 
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like where we where where St. 
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we've talked about this a lot. 
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all the years since the first 
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John's game, right? 
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sprinkle in there. 
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tournament one year. 
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year. 
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decent competitive teams, but 
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really, really wanted the first 
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And this is in succession from 
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this like you have to, and 
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St. 
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here and, and, and really just 
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I think it's almost unfair or, 
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rocky road, right? 
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succession guys from O3 to 
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Think that was my introduction 
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John's basketball. 6 and 21, 
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then 16 and 15. 
All right, little progress. 

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Then 11 and 19, then 16 and 18, 
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You're talking about 6-7 years 
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even being remotely relevant on 
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And, and I say that because it 
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far St. 
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Right? 
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You know what, you figured this,
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back-to-back thirty win seasons 
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where we had now thirty wins in 
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All the those other years that 
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games. 
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you're right. 
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because all of those, most of 
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and 1716 and 1117 and 15, so 
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peppered with a completely 
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schedule. 
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naming local schools. 
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anybody, but you know, schools 
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NEC like those kind of I 
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game. 
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with you. 
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If I'm wrong, correct me. 
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unveiled Carta Seca ring the 
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I don't think that was you. 
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Yeah, that was myself and Crispy
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They played Saint Francis that 
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Seca and they lost the game in 
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Terriers again, no disrespect, 
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My God, they don't have a team 
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They got got rid of the athletic
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Make think about that. 
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losing to Saint Francis to where
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Wow. 
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Mullen was coaching and St. 
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wins against Syracuse in the 
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fashion. 
I did that game with you. 

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That was on a weeknight, 
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We come back Sunday and lose to 
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Oh my God. 
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know if I know where. 
Is that a Texas school? 

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Yeah. 
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Right. 
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So it's been a an incredibly 
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And it's just, you know, it's 
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And it's crazy too. 
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Where, you know, I, I, I guess 
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something and you're great at 
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you've got your, your beliefs 
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players you need and what kind 
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what you demand of your players.
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that clearly works. 
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him on one of the TV shows on 
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I'm like, Rick, when, when you 
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conference and you looked into 
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right now, and you said, oh, St.
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I guarantee you St. 
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elevate St. 
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What do you think? 
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Ritz best characteristic. 
I've never asked you that. 

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I'm I'm very curious how you 
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Could very well. 
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evaluation of players, 
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that talent and seeing how it 
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The talent can adjust to his way
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So it's not to me it it's not 
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This is the system, this is what
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You got to adjust to this. 
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both. 
So he's, so he's flexible. 

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He's flexible, he said. 
If, if, if, if one of my players

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that I have great confidence in 
it can't do this particular 

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thing as well as I want him to 
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make a little bit of adjustment 
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Cover up a little bit him. 
Out and and and that way it 

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blends in better with the team. 
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some of those examples. 
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you play for for, for Rick is 
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you don't play defense, you're 
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And if you play sloppily, you're
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And you know, I think that 
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reasons why you have that very 
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this year. 
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Iowa State, you played Kentucky,
you know, Baylor good 

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conference, not a great team, 
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schedule and Rick did that for a
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moments like now, based on what 
happened against Arkansas last 

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year when you and I did that 
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Providence and they lost it in 
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You know, RJ Lewis got benched. 
We know the whole story. 

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I think that Rick was like, OK, 
that that's now now he really 

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knew the Big East because it was
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Big East is some of these other 
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So let me get them used to 
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maybe leaner, different type of 
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still, you know, a little blue 
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And I think it's worked. 
I think that I think whatever 

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talents that they have, and 
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transferable to almost any type 
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And on top of that, the other 
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defense, you have to play hard 
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year that they graded every 
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I effort, OK, and and and he 
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before the players were able to 
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back home, you know, he pointed 
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You didn't give it today. 

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You did. 
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translated to the second year 
that this is Zubi's first year, 

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because Zubi brought it every 
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talking to every game. 
I'm talking every day and he was

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making his first start against 
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recording the the pregame 
interview. 

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Was this the game when he hit 
the game winner? 

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No, no. 
OK. 

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The year before that first year.
Gotcha. 

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His first year. 
He's making his first start. 

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Got it for Soriano. 
Yeah. 

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And so which says when is this 
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And I said 5 minutes before the 
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right, ask me about the lineup. 
I said OK, And so I did. 

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And then the the second 
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the starting lineup. 
And then he went said that Zubi 

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was making his first start. 
And I asked coach why. 

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And then he went on for quite a 
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But the gist of it was that he 
brought it every single day in 

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practice every day. 
And then he then he said an 

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interesting thing. 
Oh, interesting to me. 

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He said, Soriano, I have no 
problem with his effort. 

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He brings it to, but not to the 
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So he's Soriano. 
Played hard, but not hard 

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enough. 
He didn't, I don't know that he 

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played desperate. 
It's almost like, you know, are 

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you playing hard? 
Are you playing desperate? 

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There's a big difference there 
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That desperation is obvious 
where, you know, fucking through

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screens and everything that you 
do. 

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There's just an element of, you 
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wall. 
See a lot of young players, 

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whether it's the AAU culture, 
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high school or by their parents,
There's not many coaches like 

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Rick. 
You know, if if you're a guy 

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that's, you know, could put up 
20 points a night and you don't 

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really want to play that much 
defense, most coaches will kind 

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of let you coast and get away 
with it. 

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And Rick is not that kind of 
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And I think one of the main 
exhibits here would be Ian 

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Jackson, where I think if Ian 
Jackson maybe had a different 

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coach this year, I I don't think
it would have stunned me if Ian 

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Jackson was a, you know, first 
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because he probably would have 
averaged close to 20. 

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But when you don't do the little
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do, which ultimately will make 
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going to get the right was in 
amount of minutes to even put up

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the amount of shots to give 
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second team. 
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and I do feel now like Ian 
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and learned that a while ago. 
Mitchell knew that right away. 

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Zoo will be obviously setting 
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Bryce Hopkins has obviously 
picked things up. 

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He's learned to trust his body. 
And Bryce Hopkins last game 

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against Kansas hit 63 pointers, 
6 in an NCAA tournament game. 

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And Rick kept saying imploring 
him shoot, shoot, shoot. 

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And he didn't miss many. 
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the effort and it goes back to 
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John's. 
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it first started, especially the
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the start of the season that 
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But there was a point somewhere 
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that that changed that the ball 
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All the things did not run 
through. 

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So it became Jenkins team and 
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personability, sure, but but 
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that. 
And and and and DJ, he's like 

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Subi, he gives the effort. 
You know, Minx, so Mike 

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Anderson, Emily is different 
because he's a Saint John's 

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legend. 
So I'm going to, I'm going to 

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kind of push Chris to the side a
little bit here. 

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Mike Anderson for sure. 
Lavin, who had some success here

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with Saint John's, you know, to 
me like it's one thing and and 

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fans would have taken whatever 
they could get. 

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I mean, fans just wanted to 
become nationally relevant and, 

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and here we are on the Sweet 16 
down in DC, You and I getting 

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ready to play Duke tonight at 
7:10. 

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We'll get into some of the 
matchups in a bit, but the the 

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like, it's almost amplified and 
almost hits a completely 

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different level because it's 
Pitino. 

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Like he's from here. 
He coached the Knicks. 

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You were around the Knicks when 
he was coaching the New York 

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Knicks back in 87 when Mark 
Jackson won the Rookie of the 

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year coming out of St. 
John's for Rick. 

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And they just took all those 
threes and he was ahead of the 

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curve with it, with the math 
behind that as well. 

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Like it St. 
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incredible national profile, but
they almost feel like a 

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professional team. 
You know what I mean? 

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That aura that Rick just brings 
that I don't know that any other

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Calvin's coach has right now, 
even Tom Izzo, who's amazing, I 

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think Rick's aura is is 
different than anybody in the 

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game right now. 
And and you know what's what? 

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I'm not going to try and pat 
myself on the back. 

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I'll do it for you. 
But I'm double jointed. 

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But, but, but, but, but, but 
figure this the last time that 

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we were together in San Diego 
doing this program, you know, I 

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hypothesize about the, the 
seating and why they were in San

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Diego. 
And the way you talk about 

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Pitino is exactly what CBS was 
thinking about. 

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And I think that they wanted 
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window on a Friday night. 
And they wanted Saint John's, 

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oh, Kansas for the, the window 
preceding 60 minutes on Sunday. 

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They wanted Saint John's. 
They wanted Rick Pitino. 

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I'm sure they wanted Peterson 
too. 

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But but but and and they got 
like 10 million, no? 

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No, it was 10. 
It was over 10 mil. 

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For for the Kansas game, so you 
know what you're talking about 

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and then the relationship with 
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accident. 
I think that that's something, 

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and I don't think that tonight's
game, the 7:00 game on CBS and 

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the East Winter will probably 
play 4:30 on Sunday. 

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I don't think that that's by 
accident either. 

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OK, I, I think that's 
interesting. 

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That's in a lot of ways that's 
still unfair to see. 

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Not that it matters. 
I mean, here we are, they won. 

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But like, if they're plotting 
this out well, and I think I, I 

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certainly know what you mean. 
And I think that you might be 

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right because you want to 
manipulate the ratings and you 

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want to have a Saint John. 
I, I get that put in the same 

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vein, like if Saint Johns would 
have lost the other day. 

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I mean, you know, so as they set
this up theoretically for these 

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big TV showdowns, well, what you
really did was penalize Saint 

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John. 
I mean, now it worked out. 

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I mean, so you're worrying about
the TB schedule and. 

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Well, that's I see that's. 
But that's not right. 

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But you might be. 
But that's not fair. 

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CBS goes to the committee. 
It was CBS spending a lot of 

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money. 
I have the CBS goes to the 

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committee and says, all right, 
how we're going to. 

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We want this and we want. 
That How about you just see them

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what they're supposed to be? 
That's an old story. 

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I'm not trying to do much with 
that, but but like if they're 

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sitting in the room, OK, so you 
know we're going to give Saint 

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Johns A5 seat even though 
they're probably more based on 

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the Ken Palm and all the other 
analytics and everything else, 

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blah, blah, blah Big East 
champions, regular season 

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tournament beat UConn, all that 
stuff and 119 to 20 games blah, 

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blah. 
Well, just because of a 

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potential team we're going to 
we're going to ship. 

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That seems pretty back door to 
me, but you might be right. 

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But that but that's why I think 
the NCAA committee's a bunch of 

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dopes. 
I mean, that's what I think. 

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I think that they're lost. 
I think that they're awful. 

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I think that you might be right 
about this, I just think that 

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seems to me inherently unfair. 
But you might be right. 

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But with all the money that's 
involved, it's not unfair to 

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them. 
Well, I. 

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I I hear you. 
I hear you. 

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I got a crazy stat for you too. 
Oh, before I before I move on to

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the stat, Mink is right. 
So I saw this last night, maybe 

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in the hotel. 
So the St. 

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John's, Kansas game had over, I 
think it was like 10.1 or 10.2 

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million viewers, which was the 
most watched first or second 

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round game thus far in the NCAA 
tournament. 

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St. 
John's number one. 

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Now, is that because of Kansas? 
No disrespect to Kansas blue 

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blood, although Rick said 
yesterday there are no more blue

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bloods and I want to get your 
opinion on that. 

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But let's let's call for what it
is. 

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That number was driven by Saint 
John's. 

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Now Saint John's was playing 
Omaha or like a team for last 

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year or a lesser profile team 
this year in Round 2. 

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Sure, you need 2 to dance. 
I obviously understand that. 

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But Duke didn't get 10.1 million
or you know, some of these other

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like Texas didn't get the Texas 
what a game last night. 

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By the way, with Texas like good
God, Oh God with like that's a 

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brutal way to lose. 
The point is Saint John's drove 

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that rating. 
And when I say like the profile,

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it's just it's all come 
together. 

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The garden's been packed. 
Patino was just a 5 star 

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platinum. 
I think he's the best coach of 

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all time. 
I've said that I think he's the 

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best college coach of all time. 
And this place is buzzing and 

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there's be a lot of red and 
white tonight. 

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And I would have to think Ming, 
just based on the proximity from

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here. 
But you know, back home compared

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to these two to San Diego, 
there'll be a lot of St. 

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John's fans here tonight. 
Oh sure, it'll be a lot of fans.

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Yeah, Amtrak comes right down. 
That's right. 

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But it does it does that for U 
Conn too. 

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I know. 
And Michigan State generally 

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travels pretty well, but I, I do
think there's going to be a 

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massive. 
Contingent Duke travels well. 

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That's true. 
I do. 

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Duke always travels well. 
All right, so here's a crazy 

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stat for you. 
So St. 

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John's has played two. 
I know you know this, but I want

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everybody. 
This is this. 

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This is one of the most amazing 
stats. 

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Really, without even being 
hyperbolic, this is an amazing 

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stat. 
Saint John's has played 200 

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postseason minutes, All right. 
They started out talking about 

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the three games in the Big East 
tournament, when they smacked 

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Providence, when they beat Seton
Hall, when they smacked UConn, 

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then obviously Northern Iowa. 
And then of course the the other

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day San Diego, when I were 
there, when they beat Kansas at 

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the buzzer with Big Bell's 
darling, you know, at the horn 

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with the right hand for a lefty.
5 games that they played in the 

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postseason, 200 minutes, they 
have led for 196 and like 25 

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seconds out of 200 minutes. 
I mean, it's it's really now 

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they didn't jump on Kansas quite
the way they did on the other 

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teams, but they did hit a three 
to start that game and they did 

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take the lead. 
If Saint John's falls behind 

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tonight, all right, because 
they've been playing, kind of 

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playing downhill, you get out to
a lead and he coasted a little 

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bit. 
Most of these games. 

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If they were to fall behind by a
couple of buckets, do you think 

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they they flinch? 
You think they're prepared to 

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win that kind of a game if they 
have to? 

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Yes, I, I think now, I think 
earlier on in the season they 

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they won a lot of a lot. 
They won a number of games in 

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the second-half. 
The Xavier game, the Xavier game

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in Cincinnati that we did, and 
the whole game as well. 

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The Garden. 
Those are those are two right 

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there and there and there were 
others they got. 

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They've gotten off the slow 
starts in in a number of games, 

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but here as we come, you know, 
to the Big East tournament, 

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neither a few games but well, 
even Georgetown, they didn't 

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before the Big East tournament. 
They didn't get off to a real 

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good. 
Start. 

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Nor did they get off to a great 
start on New Year's Eve. 

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Down here in DC, there's a 
little bit of a slow, slow 

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cooking for the. 
But that's the, but that's the 

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thing with this group now, 
there's more consistency at the 

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start of the game and in the 
first half of the game. 

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Now the one thing that does 
concern me, they do have their 

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droughts from time to time. 
And obviously the key to that is

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how long will it be? 
There will be a drought, but 

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lately it's been coming in the 
second-half as opposed to the 

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first half. 
And I you can live with droughts

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to an extent, provided they're 
not, you know, 8910 minute 

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stretches, then that's going to 
really sabotage the season. 

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But you can live with a drought 
when your defense is this great 

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because your defense gives you a
chance to navigate the droughts.

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Got to work through them, find 
your way, get a keep, get a 

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couple of cheap buckets, tip 
bins or a steal and a dunk. 

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And that's obviously an energy 
kind of a basket there. 

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Yes, we'll say John's based on 
the Kent Palm 8th rated defense.

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All right, and here's another 
amazing step for you. 

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St. 
John's forces turnovers on 19 

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percent, 19% of their opponents 
possessions. 

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So to me, I mean, this is just a
a macro broad snapshot, but I 

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want to see St. 
John's get to the line. 

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I want to see him hit some. 
They've they've got their 

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efficiency from the stripe, has 
to be better. 

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Has to. 
I also think very sneakily it 

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got lost in the outcome because 
it was so jubilant and they won.

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Saint John's failed to box out a
few times late in that Kansas 

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game where they gave up some 
weak side offensive rebound. 

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Tippins. 
You got to you, you've got to 

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you've got to seal people. 
You've got to get to the line 

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and you're probably going to 
have to hit. 

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If I had to give you a number 
over under on threes, I think 

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they're going to have to be. 
I'd say it's probably 8 1/2. 

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I think if you hit 9, I think 
St. 

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John's wins. 
I think if you're below that, I 

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think it's going to be a tough 
game. 

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They've attempted quite a few 
threes here in the last couple 

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of games and all valid points. 
I think one of the match ups, 

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rebounding is the key, but I 
think some sometimes I look at 

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it as it comes to the back 
court. 

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I don't know how much Foster is 
going to play tonight for Duke 

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if at. 
All I don't know if he's going 

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to play at all. 
Yeah. 

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00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,000
If at all. 
And he is their number one 

446
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,120
playmaker and he's been out for 
a while. 

447
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:52,080
Because of. 
A broken ankle and so you know 

448
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:57,440
what's going to happen there. 
But here's a similarity from a 

449
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,840
point guard position, whether it
be frontline or depth or 

450
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,600
whatever. 
Neither team is very strong in 

451
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:10,680
in that area. 
So I'm looking at you know, how 

452
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:15,320
will players like Jackson and 
Sellers and Hopkins and and 

453
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:20,360
Saturn operate in the open floor
tonight against what Duke 

454
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,440
offers? 
I know that that Saint John's is

455
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,960
going to put a lot of pressure 
if they didn't do it against 

456
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,080
Kansas. 
They did give them some space on

457
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,480
the perimeter, but they're going
to really be on top of them 

458
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,800
tonight. 
Now, the difference between one 

459
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:41,600
of the differences between the 
Duke guards and the Saint, The 

460
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,400
Duke guards are better 
rebounders, They're better 

461
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,560
around the basket and they're 
better in the restricted. 

462
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,640
I'm not restricted anymore, 
folks. 

463
00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:55,760
And, and, and they're they're 
strong in the restricted area. 

464
00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,240
So the St. 
John's guards have got to 

465
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,400
rebound the ball tonight. 
And that means San, and that 

466
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,480
means Jackson, you know, and 
Sellers tries. 

467
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,240
Yeah, he does. 
He does, but but I think that 

468
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,680
that that has to happen and, and
I'm not talking two or three 

469
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,400
rebounds. 
You talk about 5% at. 

470
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,240
Least three or four or five, you
know, somewhere, somewhere in 

471
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,840
that vicinity. 
And I think you can make, you 

472
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,520
can make an argument. 
And I know how good Boozer is 

473
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,040
and, and I mean, he has his 
fingerprints on everything. 

474
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,840
He's great and be a top three 
taking the. 

475
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,640
Drive. 
But The thing is though, he he 

476
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:39,240
is not as good a defensive 
player as you think because he 

477
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,760
shies away, He doesn't get in 
foul trouble and he's not a 

478
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,920
prolific shot blocker. 
No, no. 

479
00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:46,520
No. 
Or anything like that. 

480
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,760
So, you know, we'll see if St. 
John's takes the ball inside 

481
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:50,440
against. 
Him. 

482
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,000
Are they better? 
I think they're going to try to 

483
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:53,560
run right through his chest. 
Kidding me? 

484
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:54,800
He's 19 years old. 
But. 

485
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,680
I mean, he doesn't have that 
grown man strength. 

486
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,480
That's a massive advantage for 
Saint John's. 

487
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,520
But but the but the other 
Gangba, who's back from injury, 

488
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:07,440
missed five games prior to the 
last game, He's 611 and and he's

489
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,840
pretty good. 
And that combination, especially

490
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:17,200
when they put a boozer on the 
perimeter, I know will be 

491
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,160
interesting to watch and for 
Saint John's to match up. 

492
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,480
Against who do you think opens 
up guarding Cam? 

493
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,920
He's got his brother Kaden. 
But but Cam, do you think it's 

494
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,120
going to be Dylan Mitchell to 
start? 

495
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,040
I would agree with that. 
So let me get back to Caleb 

496
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,920
Foster here. 
I've got two different thoughts 

497
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,840
and I want to hear which one you
subscribe to. 

498
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:38,160
So he's their point guard. 
Obviously Kaden has has filled 

499
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,560
in and Kaden's a completely 
different player than his 

500
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,520
brother Kaden's 64, you know, 
more finesse, not a great 

501
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,600
shooter, you know, good, but but
certainly just no disrespect. 

502
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,720
He's not Cam Boozer. 
He's not on any mock draft. 

503
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,600
He's just not thought to be that
that player yet, if ever. 

504
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,920
But to me, Caleb Foster, when 
you basically break your foot on

505
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:03,520
March 7th, which in essence he 
did, there's a as good as he is,

506
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,480
there's a part of me that almost
says, I don't know, maybe it 

507
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,840
would be a benefit to the 
beneficial to St. 

508
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,560
John's for him to play tonight 
because he's going to be rusty. 

509
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,240
If you like, listen, if you hurt
your foot, what kind of cardio 

510
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,520
are you doing? 
Like you're really off your 

511
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,320
feet. 
It's not like you, you hurt your

512
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,000
rib and you could still run and 
you could still work out your 

513
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,840
legs. 
So he's been fairly inactive, at

514
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,280
least in terms of that, like 
that high energy cardio stuff. 

515
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,840
And what kind of shape is he in?
Because he's been on ice for 

516
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,440
three weeks and if he's not 
100%, I think it could be 

517
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,680
advantageous Mink, even though 
he's a hell of a player, to have

518
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,080
him on the court and just go 
right at him and attack him. 

519
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,400
And from the mental standpoint, 
and, and by that, I mean, you 

520
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:50,200
know, here's Caleb Foster, you 
know, coming up the ball, coming

521
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,920
up the court with the ball and 
he decides he's going to take it

522
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,440
to the rim down the right side 
of the lane. 

523
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,720
Well, he tells his ankle, this 
is what we're going to do. 

524
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:08,000
What is the ankles response? 
Does the ankle tell Caleb, I'm 

525
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:13,320
not ready for that? 
You know, I got you. 

526
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,000
You're right. 
And you know, you know, 

527
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,280
sometimes, you know, players 
don't listen to their body and, 

528
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,320
you know, body tells them 
something and I don't know, 

529
00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:26,560
you're the heck with you. 
I'm going to the basket and and 

530
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,680
and and so you know that from a 
mental standpoint point. 

531
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,560
And so he would have that to 
worry about on the floor as as 

532
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,000
well. 
So you know, we're we're going 

533
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,680
to see. 
But but you know what though, 

534
00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:44,080
and I've always thought this, we
can go for six hours breaking 

535
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,080
down this, breaking down this, 
breaking down this, but if 

536
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,720
someone's got 2 fouls by the 10 
minute mark of the first half, 

537
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,520
all that commentary that we had 
goes out the window. 

538
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,880
I know, I know. 
And that was something, you're 

539
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,000
right. 
And that was something that you 

540
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,240
and I were obviously looking at 
going into first, the Northern 

541
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,360
Iowa game and of course Kansas, 
where even though there was a 

542
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,600
Big East official in the was it 
the Northern Iowa game? 

543
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,320
Yeah, I know, I know. 
But I know Kansas, but Northern 

544
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,120
Iowa too. 
Yes, yes. 

545
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,160
But you just never know what 
you're going to get. 

546
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,960
So if you if you've read St. 
John's games this year and 

547
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,480
you're familiar with the Big 
East style of play, you 

548
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,640
understand what how St. 
John's operates. 

549
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,080
And you probably give them a 
little more latitude because you

550
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,920
know how well principled they 
are. 

551
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,640
And that that's what they do 
every night where you get some 

552
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,440
guy for the Big 10. 
Also a physical conference 

553
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,800
historically or somewhere out 
West, whatever might. 

554
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,840
The ACC was a little bit more 
finesse and they're not really 

555
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:37,680
used to it. 
You're right. 

556
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,600
I mean, best laid plans, throw 
them in the fire pit because we 

557
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,400
could sit here for six hours and
hit this. 

558
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,880
And most sellers has to hit some
shots and zoobies gotta do this.

559
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,760
And Mitchell gotta play D and 
Hopkins gotta stick a couple 

560
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,640
more threes and one of the 
guards gotta help out the 

561
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,840
rebounds. 
A couple of early fouls for St. 

562
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,000
John's or for Duke. 
No matter what we say it, it all

563
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,920
kind of changes abruptly. 
So I hope they let him play 

564
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,320
tonight. 
And I think that they will let 

565
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,200
him play tonight. 
But that's your anticipation, 

566
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,280
right? 
I don't think they're going to 

567
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,960
change now. 
Yeah, no, I, I would think, you 

568
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,160
know, we're, we're getting at 
least, you know, 2 from another 

569
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,800
conference. 
Yeah, you would hope that they 

570
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,240
would would let them play and 
and from the inside standpoint, 

571
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,520
the only other step I would 
bring up is between Cam, 

572
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:30,520
Cameron, Boozer and Gangba. 
They actually combine for half 

573
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:35,800
half of their shots, almost 
exactly half of their shots at 

574
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,400
the rim. 
Yeah, well, that that to me 

575
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,720
that's a massive advantage for 
St. 

576
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,240
John's because number one, St. 
John's defence is phenomenal. 

577
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,560
I just gave you one of the 
stats, 8th overall in terms of 

578
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,120
defensive efficiency in the 
entire country as per Ken Pom. 

579
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,240
But now you're going to give a 
great defense with great 

580
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,000
defensive defensive coaches and 
you're going to basically have 

581
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,560
only two options at the rim. 
Well, now you're giving a great 

582
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,880
defense even more more to focus 
on where they can really just 

583
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,360
take that and assert that 
defensive prowess in in more 

584
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,800
specific directions. 
Listen, I do think that Saint 

585
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,680
John's is going to win tonight. 
I'm not just saying that of 

586
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,080
course I want Saint John's to 
win. 

587
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,280
Obviously so does so does mink. 
I want to go to final four man 

588
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,360
with this four. 
Let's keep going. 

589
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,080
I do think that Saint John's is 
going to win because I think 

590
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,280
ultimately Saint John's 
strength, their toughness, their

591
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,280
just their fear, their sheer 
physical prowess is going to be 

592
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,480
a little bit too much for some 
of those younger, lesser 

593
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,680
developed physical bodies on 
Duke, even though they've got a 

594
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:33,920
couple of future pros on the 
team, you know, but I also, even

595
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,760
if they weren't to lose this 
game, I can't see a situation 

596
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,480
where Duke just lights him up 
for like 8587 point. 

597
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,880
I I just I don't see that under 
any circumstance. 

598
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,600
I don't think Saint John's 
defense will let that happen no 

599
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,200
matter what, Mink. 
Duke is going to play in the 

600
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,200
half court. 
Duke is not that great as the 

601
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,920
three-point shooting. 
Team No they're not. 

602
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,600
And, and I think from a Saint 
John's standpoint, you know, I 

603
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,520
mentioned the blitzing and 
they're really going to crowd 

604
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,560
the perimeter, especially early 
in the game. 

605
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,000
And, and I know that they play 
the quick tempos, especially 

606
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,320
getting the ball at the court. 
I think you'll see them playing 

607
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,960
not quick, but quicker than what
you've seen. 

608
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,120
That was something that they 
worked on yesterday and they 

609
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:25,640
said, no, coach says no, it's 
not fast enough, more fast. 

610
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,760
Wow. 
And and wanting to play extra 

611
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:36,440
fast without the turnovers. 
I like a little point of 

612
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,160
emphasis without the turnovers, 
just to let you know what's a 

613
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,520
serious point there. 
I got you mate. 

614
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,480
So there's a there's a 
difference that's good, good, 

615
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,160
like good background about 
playing fast, but playing fast 

616
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,960
but not rushing. 
Are, are, are two very 

617
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,320
different? 
No, and I know that, you know 

618
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,480
that, but there's, you know, you
can try to play fast. 

619
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:56,960
You get all frenetic and all 
wacky. 

620
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,280
Try to play above the speed that
you're used to. 

621
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:00,440
And I don't think that'll happen
to St. 

622
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:01,600
John's at all. 
I think they'll play with great 

623
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,120
poise. 
But I'm just saying in 

624
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,680
generalities or in general, when
you try to, you know, hasten a 

625
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,000
pace, if you're not conditioned 
to play that quickly, generally 

626
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,320
you start to rush. 
And when you start to rush is 

627
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:14,720
when you make those mistakes. 
And St. 

628
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,160
John's doesn't make a lot of 
mistakes. 

629
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,640
Like what was the last game that
we call where they had 17 

630
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,840
turnovers? 
Like some I can't. 

631
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,200
I really can't remember the 
like. 

632
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,680
Not, not lately. 
No, it's been a disparity that 

633
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,440
favors them. 
They turn you over more 

634
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,640
generally, they out rebound you 
generally they get to the free 

635
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,480
throw line more. 
I got a question for you. 

636
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,920
So Dylan darling, right, By the 
way, did you see the commercial 

637
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,640
that he made? 
Did you see the commercial? 

638
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,320
No, Oh my God. 
He made a commercial, I think it

639
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,400
was for TurboTax. 
It was for some sort of tax 

640
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,080
return thing, right? 
Yeah. 

641
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,640
And it, it was wild. 
I mean, he, they we got back 

642
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,320
from San Diego, they got back to
campus. 

643
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,520
You and I went through our 
respective homes and then the 

644
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,000
next day I'm getting ready for 
Unleashed here on YouTube and 

645
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,400
I'm on social media dealing with
some other stuff as well. 

646
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:05,240
And I see a little a video of 
Dylan Darling, a commercial. 

647
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,240
And it was he's like dribble the
ball in Carter SEC arena. 

648
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,080
And he's like, hey, he's like, 
don't wait till the last second 

649
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,480
to get your taxes in. 
And then you just see him drive 

650
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,400
to the rim and put up a righty 
layup, but he's already cashed 

651
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,560
in. 
It's absolutely phenomenal. 

652
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,000
But my question about Dylan is 
this. 

653
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,360
It's not going to. 
That's not happening at Idaho 

654
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,760
State. 
No, no, it's not. 

655
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,800
It's definitely not not it's not
So he he's what O for his less 

656
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:31,040
15 shooting threes, correct? 
Yeah, I think that's. 

657
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,560
I think it's over 15. 
I don't know if you remember 

658
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,200
this. 
I said during the Northern Iowa 

659
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,560
game, he took a foul shot and I 
saw I'm a writer. 

660
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,480
So I still just like almost like
an ugly. 

661
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,080
I saw a hitch and I'm like, and 
I said to you in real time, I'm 

662
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,720
like, oh, 'cause he's a pretty 
good free throw shooter anyway, 

663
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,480
I said. 
I said he missed one. 

664
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,360
I said that didn't look right, 
that looked ugly. 

665
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,640
I said. 
And I, I specifically said I'm 

666
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,640
going to circle that and I'm 
going to follow that away. 

667
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:02,520
And since then he's missed every
3 of it he's taken but. 

668
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,440
Some of them, really. 
That's, that's what, that's my 

669
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:06,840
point. 
Couple of air balls here. 

670
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,880
Not that Rick would go out of 
his way to make him. 

671
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,880
Well, I mean, maybe he would. 
I guess I'm going to ask you the

672
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,159
question because he's had such a
rough time shooting. 

673
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:18,480
If you try to get him an easy 
open look early to get him like 

674
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,880
immersed in the game, because 
the more the game goes on, as 

675
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,159
great as he was finishing up the
game the other day against 

676
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:26,800
Kansas, he's going to have to 
stick a three at some point. 

677
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,280
Like if St. 
John's going to win a national 

678
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,120
championship beer and get to 
Indianapolis and get and and get

679
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,880
to the Final Four, their 
starting point guards going to 

680
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,080
have to hit some some shots just
for spacing purposes, let alone 

681
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,719
sheer points. 
Do you go to them early? 

682
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,000
Try to get that confidence 
going. 

683
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:47,360
You know what I say? 
Yes, and two, Dylan Mitchell has

684
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,080
not hit a three all. 
Year as amazing. 

685
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,679
He's like old for 15 or 
something like that. 

686
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:55,719
The only thing he can't do, he 
does everything else like an NBA

687
00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:00,360
player, and I mean everything. 
Yeah, and, and even against the 

688
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,120
Kansas, Rick gave him the 
opportunity from the corner. 

689
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,960
You know, I remember that one. 
And and you know, the airboat 

690
00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:11,160
and once he wants those corner 
threes and someone asked them 

691
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,080
about it once. 
Well, they're not guarding them.

692
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:14,880
Yeah, I know. 
So I know. 

693
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,040
But but, but he he did give him 
Dylan Mitchell the opportunity. 

694
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,200
So, you know, why wouldn't he do
it for Dylan darling? 

695
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,440
Well, listen, there's a big 
difference. 

696
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,400
I think that I mean, most St. 
John's fans know this by now, 

697
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,640
but those who are from the 
somewhat of the outside looking 

698
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,720
in, they're, you know, they, 
they probably still associate 

699
00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:34,560
because they see like Rick and 
tents and and yelling Rick. 

700
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,920
No, his players love him and the
reason why Rick can get away 

701
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,760
with that and and be so in the 
moment raw is because the 

702
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,640
players know that he has their 
back. 

703
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:47,560
And when you have that 
relationship, you can get to a 

704
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,000
level that for some seems well, 
that's aggressive. 

705
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,240
By the way, society is also 
completely soft. 

706
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,040
Oh, wow, a coach yelled at a 
player, but a lot of people 

707
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,240
today. 
Oh, what are you doing, Rick? 

708
00:35:57,240 --> 00:35:59,440
You're up 20 to 3:00. 
That that on social media the 

709
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,720
other day it was a joke that 
that's why he's Rick Pitino. 

710
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:08,080
He clowns, but the point is, is 
that as much as he will get on 

711
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,520
somebody, you know, usually 
those strict coaches like a 

712
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,440
Bobby Knight or some other ones,
Dean Smith, they would not give 

713
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,160
you the freedom offensively to 
basically do whatever you want. 

714
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:22,560
Like Rick never, and I mean 
never gets on a player for 

715
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,400
shooting an open shot, even if 
it's an air ball and even if 

716
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,960
you've missed your first nine, 
keep shooting. 

717
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,320
It's the defensive principles 
that he will never compromise. 

718
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,320
If you go under when you're 
supposed to go over screen or 

719
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,360
you don't communicate or you 
don't box out, weak side comes 

720
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,560
and gets a rebound, you get 
burned, your behind's either on 

721
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:40,960
the bench or you're getting 
chewed out. 

722
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:45,800
And that's the way it should be.
And the key I think for Rick is 

723
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:51,640
not so much to play hard play. 
As I mentioned earlier, play 

724
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,120
hard to his standards, not to 
your. 

725
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:56,680
Stand. 
Yep. 

726
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,080
Yep. 
His standards and if you do 

727
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,600
that, he'll have your. 
Back and and they all know his 

728
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,400
standards by now maybe they 
didn't know like the mulch maybe

729
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,480
they didn't know what the first 
month he come here and you're a 

730
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,800
couple of new guys you. 
Figure out do his ass to be. 

731
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,440
I know, I know. 
Figure out really fast, OK, This

732
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,640
is the way it's going to be. 
I'm either going to be I'm 

733
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,440
either going to lock you or I 
got some problems here with 

734
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,640
Saint John's. 
And obviously everybody's locked

735
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,720
in and somebody who's locked in 
doesn't play, you know, big, 

736
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:23,800
big, big minutes. 
But I got to tell you, I'm 

737
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,000
impressed with Reuben Pray. 
I have been, you know, he's a 

738
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:31,840
long versatile, pretty quick 
twitch in terms of moving his 

739
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,200
feet and switching up top. 
Like he's away from the basket a

740
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,640
lot, guarding guards and, and 
and and some smolder wings. 

741
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,280
And his defensive versatility 
when he plays is big for Saint 

742
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,160
John's. 
He becomes a factor tonight, he 

743
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:50,800
becomes a factor moving forward.
He was a factor at the start of 

744
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,240
this tournament and into the Big
East because you know, you get 

745
00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:59,080
to this level and you keep 
advancing, you're getting more 

746
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,760
physicality on the part of the 
opponent. 

747
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:06,280
You've got to match it. 
And Reuben pray ten matches. 

748
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,680
Getting very, very theatrical 
all of a sudden make very with 

749
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,880
the, with the, with the pauses, 
the hesitations, the 

750
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,000
Annunciation. 
You see that I noticed that he's

751
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,840
getting into game mode. 
This is what I this is what I 

752
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,360
see with the make man when I'm 
sitting next to him, you know, 

753
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,160
during the game. 
He's starting to, he's starting 

754
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,280
to lock it. 
I won't keep you a whole lot 

755
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,000
longer. 
What do we have? 

756
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,040
So we are 710 obviously first 
tip or first tip tonight. 710 

757
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:34,720
pregame at 6:59. 50 on ESPN New 
York AM 1050 New York 10:50 AM 

758
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:38,440
The varsity work at that is the 
only place where you can stream 

759
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:44,040
it and for those around the 
country and so it's those two 

760
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,080
places. 
So the, let's, let's face it, 

761
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,480
unless these, these announcers 
are great, obviously, you know, 

762
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,000
at this point, you know, you're 
just getting great announcers at

763
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,400
this, at this part of the 
tournament. 

764
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,760
But you know, sync us up. 
I mean, you want to roll with 

765
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,400
your boys here, BT and Mink. 
I mean, you, you want that 

766
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,880
varsity app as, as, as John just
said, it's, it's great. 

767
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,720
My parent, you know, before we 
got back on the radio, that's 

768
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:09,040
how my wife and kids would, 
would, would listen to the 

769
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,320
games. 
They would put the TV on and 

770
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,680
they would put us up on the 
varsity app. 

771
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,600
It's free. 
So it's like I'm trying to make 

772
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,000
money pushing this. 
It's free. 

773
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,920
It's great. 
There's no glitches. 

774
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,920
You get everything and there's a
way to do it. 

775
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,640
It's basically I think it's 10 
seconds behind so you can easily

776
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,800
sync it up with the actual 
action on the court. 

777
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,480
I'm pumped up tonight, man. 
I I am pumped up. 

778
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,600
Do you let me ask you this, man,
do you get I don't get that. 

779
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,400
I get like an energy, like an 
excitability. 

780
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,600
Do you get a a big game 
nervousness as a broadcaster do?

781
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,440
You I get nervous for every game
what I I do. 

782
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,600
What I think John's playing 
Wagner, you get nervous. 

783
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:51,960
I've done games for, I've, I've 
done games for 50 years and no, 

784
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:57,360
I, I and, and I've always 
thought if I don't have that 

785
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:02,640
nervousness prior to the game, 
then it'll be time to leave. 

786
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,560
And and it's the reason now 
folks, you would I I write the 

787
00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:10,320
intros. 
At the beginning of the game, 

788
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,000
it's typed. 
Word for word, Oh it is. 

789
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,440
Keep going. 
And I've seen it, and I get that

790
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,840
from the person that basically 
taught me how to do everything, 

791
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:26,560
Don Fisher. 
No Don Fisher out, no IU. 

792
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,720
He's. 
Done. 

793
00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:29,880
He's done. 
IU called the national 

794
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,360
championship football game. 
Oh, that's right, he's been. 

795
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,240
Doing Indiana University 
football and basketball for 53 

796
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:40,000
years and I worked with him at 
radio station in Indianapolis 

797
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,880
for 10 and he taught me 
basically how to do that and the

798
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,840
reason why. 
And I owe, and this I always 

799
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:55,520
tell you, even if you get off to
a good start, you have a better 

800
00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:00,720
than average chance for that to 
carry over for the rest of the 

801
00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:05,040
broadcast. 
If you get off to a long start 

802
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,280
on the Open, I'm going to sit 
there and AD Lib. 

803
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,200
Oh no, we can't have you ad Lib.
We you, you that's. 

804
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:17,280
The thing and and and and 
everything becomes muddled and 

805
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,760
everything like that. 
Then there is a better than 

806
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,720
average chance that the entire 
broadcast will be that way. 

807
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,280
And that's where I learned that 
from. 

808
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:30,840
And I've been doing that ever 
since he caught me and told me 

809
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,400
why to do it that way. 
I you know what I think would be

810
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,360
pretty cool Number one, have you
written it out yet for tonight 

811
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,320
or Sure. 
So you you type and you print it

812
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,360
on. 
When I say print it everything 

813
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,440
out, yeah, that includes my 
name. 

814
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,200
I hear you. 
I've seen it, I've seen it, I've

815
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,280
seen it, I've seen it every 
game. 

816
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,400
And he's right, you know he 
does. 

817
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,600
And even when you say the you 
know, NGO Chris Magic, like, you

818
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,640
know your point, like you have 
literally the same routine. 

819
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,800
It's almost like a hitter going 
up to the batter's box and 

820
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,480
having the same exact routine. 
It gets your mind quiet. 

821
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,040
It gets it gets you comfortable,
gets you in rhythm. 

822
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,160
And I don't, you know, I I'm 
more of like and I don't, I 

823
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,400
don't play by play. 
So it's different. 

824
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,000
So I have a different process. 
It's more about obviously like a

825
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,000
word or two. 
Even doing a radio show doing 

826
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,000
this, I'll write down a word or 
two and I'm comfortable seeing 

827
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,480
that word and then kind of 
transforming it into a, a longer

828
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,960
style thought. 
You know, a delivery like that 

829
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,600
works for me. 
But will you do me a favor after

830
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,120
tonight's game? 
Can I, would you mind if I 

831
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,280
actually like post that either 
on it? 

832
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,000
I, I think people would love to.
I think they get a kick out of 

833
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,840
it and I think that they can see
clearly what you're talking 

834
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,000
about because ever since you 
when I started working together,

835
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,120
I have noticed that you write 
every single just to start the 

836
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,760
game, just to get yourself off 
to that first that bat get going

837
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,120
there. 
And I do that we'll get that out

838
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,560
for you see, folks, And and and 
this because it's radio, you 

839
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,320
would would know this when when 
I throw it to the first break, 

840
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,840
Brandon or what maybe whoever 
might look over might not. 

841
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:10,560
And I'll I'll either be Yep, and
you know, I'll either be happy 

842
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,760
with it or I won't. 
And I've been happy with it 

843
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,960
pretty much the entire season. 
So and and that's why I do that 

844
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,800
to to tell myself that. 
All right, we got through this 

845
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:29,560
first segment in good shape. 
There's a better than chance 

846
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,600
that we're going to get through 
this entire broadcast in good 

847
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:33,600
shape as well. 
Yep. 

848
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,840
And I've got my own way of of 
letting you know that I like 

849
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:36,920
that. 
I'll give you a little pound. 

850
00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:39,400
We'll look at each other, 
usually go the thumbs up and 

851
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,840
I'll and then I'll say so. 
You can hear me and that's, and 

852
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,920
that's, that's that's why I, I 
do that. 

853
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,920
Mink if St. 
John's gets to the final four. 

854
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,280
No, Yeah, I know. 
Yeah. 

855
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,480
Think about how I know. 
Think about how long you've done

856
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,640
this. 
You know, 5053 years you've been

857
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,200
broadcasting just to a hold of 
fame or a hold of fame guy. 

858
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,160
I mean, just a great voice. 
I mean, all those years work 

859
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,800
with Mike and Chris. 
The best show, you know, maybe 

860
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,480
in the history of sports radio 
in terms of, you know, changing 

861
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,920
the medium for sure. 
If they get to the Final Four, 

862
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,560
would that be the highlight of 
your career? 

863
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,680
It would have to be no. 
Yeah, already a Kansas game was.

864
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,320
I was, I was gonna, I was gonna 
say. 

865
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,160
To Mike is the highlight. 
I mean, I've never done a game 

866
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,960
that big and I'm not going to, 
you know, tonight that gets 

867
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,560
topped, you know, because we're 
we're in the Sweet 16 and I've 

868
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,640
never been, you know, to a a 
broadcast in a in a Sweet 16 

869
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,480
game. 
But, but it's odd that you bring

870
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,080
ironic that you bring that up 
because I'm friends with the 

871
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:45,640
Michigan State announcer. 
Is that a not Blevins? 

872
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,600
Will Teeman. 
Oh, no. 

873
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,200
I'm thinking somebody else. 
Who was the guy who used to do 

874
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,480
Michigan State football. 
Pistons. 

875
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,400
George blah, yeah. 
George blah. 

876
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,000
Yeah, no. 
Will Teeman does. 

877
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,520
George, stop doing it, because 
George did Michigan State 

878
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,280
football for a long time. 
Yeah, and the Pistons. 

879
00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:05,680
Yeah, but will Teamans? 
OK, I'm not saying he doesn't, 

880
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,960
but. 
Will team has done it a long 

881
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,400
time. 
We were together in Indiana, he 

882
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,960
worked in the northern part of 
the state and I worked at the 

883
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,600
station in Indianapolis and we 
were in the Indianapolis Motor 

884
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,680
Speedway tower every month of 
May doing qualifications and 

885
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,000
practice sessions for the entire
month. 

886
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,600
He would spend the entire month 
in Indianapolis and of course I 

887
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,160
live there. 
And, and so, so we had a long 

888
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:36,320
and we had a long discussion 
about about that, he said. 

889
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,600
And that's where I get my you 
know, the players love the 

890
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,280
stage, the coaches love the 
stage, and so do the announcers.

891
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,320
And we talked about that stage 
if one of us, Michigan State or 

892
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,800
St. 
John's, made it to Indianapolis 

893
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,280
and how thrilling it would be 
for one of us. 

894
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,760
And it it's ironic that we had 
that discussion yesterday. 

895
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,760
And if, if that's the case, if 
if Johnny's win tonight and 

896
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,400
then, you know, UConn goes down 
to Michigan State, it's mano Y 

897
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,920
mano, I'm going to put my money 
on the make man taking out that 

898
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,520
that guy from Michigan State, 
Can't let him win that battle, 

899
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,520
right. 
Did you watch the Mets 

900
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,280
yesterday, by the way? 
Yes, I did. 

901
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:14,080
Boys look pretty good, those 
Mets. 

902
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:15,600
They sure did. 
Yeah. 

903
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,040
What a beautiful day in New 
York. 

904
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:18,920
I was gorgeous. 
Now I came in yesterday's, you 

905
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,960
know, it was like it was like at
one point when, when did I leave

906
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,280
New Jersey? 
Right around 4 change. 

907
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:29,040
I got my carts at 82 degrees 82.
It was absolutely gorgeous. 

908
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,080
And I mean, that was, I mean, 
they knocked Paul's skeens out 

909
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,360
in the front. 
You can't have a better fur. 

910
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,880
I don't know if you got a better
opening Day, like you knocked 

911
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,520
skeens out. 
The Mets always went on opening 

912
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,040
day no matter where they play. 
They're great at that. 

913
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,400
So they're. 
Going all the way now, but the 

914
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,520
line up the Yankees, we got a 
Subway Series. 

915
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,160
Little series, listen, we're 
we're fielding ourselves with 

916
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,560
this Johnny Run. 
We're going to tell and Nick's 

917
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:48,560
are going to get to the 
championship. 

918
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,400
Little Yanks Mets Subway series.
No, but the Mets line up to me. 

919
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,120
Yeah, let's see. 
I might get too deep into this 

920
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,600
with you, but one of the reasons
why I thought that there was a 

921
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,880
better route other than Pete and
and Nimmo and obviously all the 

922
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,560
things that they did. 
They won't hit as many home runs

923
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,120
this year, but they're going to 
be, I think more professional at

924
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,640
bats, more balls in play. 
I I think this Mets lineup and 

925
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,200
not to mention the pitching, I 
think the Mets have a chance to 

926
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,720
be really good this year. 
And defence, they, they, they 

927
00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:20,880
need to catch the ball. 
They'll catch it better at 

928
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,440
second with Simeon, obviously 
Lindor. 

929
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:28,120
Lindor's good at short. 
Roberts great in center bench. 

930
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,120
I mean, I know he hit the big 
bomb. 

931
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,040
That was a beautiful swing, but 
I think he's going to be a plus 

932
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,480
defender. 
And right, yeah. 

933
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,520
I mean, you got to hope that 
Bichette doesn't kick it around,

934
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,680
which I, I think, I think, I 
think Bichette, most of his 

935
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,960
errors this year, however many 
has, I think they're going to be

936
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,000
more on the throws than actually
receiving the ball. 

937
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,760
I think it'd be fine catching 
the ball and I think it'd be 

938
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,600
pretty good throwing the ball. 
He'll be an average third 

939
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,240
baseman. 
You know, you'd like to see 

940
00:47:47,240 --> 00:47:49,680
Alvarez stay healthy and you 
want to see Polanco get adjusted

941
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,960
to playing first base. 
But you know, listen, those, 

942
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,920
those menses, man, I mean, one 
at all. 

943
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,720
And now you got McLean getting 
ready to pitch the young stud. 

944
00:47:57,240 --> 00:47:59,720
So it's it's a good time to be a
New York sports fan. 

945
00:47:59,720 --> 00:48:02,800
I know the Knicks lost last 
night to the Hornets, but it's 

946
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,120
it seems like everything's 
starting to coalesce a little 

947
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,280
bit here Where then between 
Harbaugh coming to the Giants 

948
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,680
and the Knicks playing a lot 
better the last month or so, 

949
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,840
Saint John's here in the Sweet 
16. 

950
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,680
Yanks are going to be good. 
Mets are going to be good. 

951
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,640
Good time. 
We got to have we got to start 

952
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,480
some maybe some more updates 
again, Man, if it would you want

953
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,920
to do updates anymore or you 
what you're done. 

954
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,480
No, I'm done with. 
That, but what is it? 

955
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,040
But only because of the commute,
right? 

956
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,040
If Oliveira was like, hey, Mink,
reverse out. 

957
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,800
Chris, who runs the fan. 
Mink, you know we miss you and 

958
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,960
we're not going to bring back 
updates the entire day. 

959
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,360
Obviously Jerry does them for 
Boomer. 

960
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:42,120
But if you if you want to do 
updates from your home, like 

961
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:43,640
we'll tell you how to do it. 
We'll set you up. 

962
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,360
Would you want to do a couple 
updates every day from home or 

963
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:46,920
no? 
No. 

964
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,920
Why not? 
No Mink, I'm done. 

965
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:56,720
It's happening out 33 years, 33 
years. 

966
00:48:56,720 --> 00:48:58,360
I know alright. 
What else do you have to say to 

967
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,200
our beautiful audience here, the
great St. 

968
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,840
John's family? 
What else you want to say 

969
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:02,280
tonight? 
Make. 

970
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:03,360
You go St. 
John's. 

971
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:04,960
Uh huh. 
Enjoy the night. 

972
00:49:05,720 --> 00:49:08,240
Is enjoy, it's a Friday night, 
Saint John's. 

973
00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:11,040
I mean, it's a Friday night. 
Saint John's has played Duke, 

974
00:49:11,240 --> 00:49:13,360
Rick Pitino's coaching Saint 
John's. 

975
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,680
It's 710 on CBS. 
I mean, it's it you got us on 

976
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,520
the radio. 
It's it's basically perfect now 

977
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,120
all they have to do is win and 
then win again on Sunday and 

978
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,520
then win a couple of more so. 
And then I'm going back to 

979
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:26,520
India. 
There you go. 

980
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,240
All right, they go Get some 
sleep, buddy. 

981
00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:29,840
I'm going to wrap up here. 
Thank you, buddy. 

982
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,760
I appreciate it. 
Ladies and gentlemen, the great 

983
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,120
areas. 
That was very presidential wave 

984
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,560
there, mate. 
He's waving like this. 

985
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,960
The make man, the make man. 
That's how I start my broadcast.

986
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:46,400
He starts his broadcast as he 
looks at yeah, at his notes, 

987
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,560
right. 
I always do the I don't know why

988
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,680
I start singing this, but I'm 
just like, right, Mink, here's 

989
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,440
the Minky, the Minky winky. 
I don't know where the hell it 

990
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:55,440
came from. 
It's weird. 

991
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,640
It's bizarre. 
I maybe that's my way of getting

992
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:02,120
my my mind sound by singing the 
mink man song that that I came 

993
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,320
up with. 
But we have an absolute blast. 

994
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,120
Match is not with us tonight. 
Match is doing the Mets stuff. 

995
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,680
Obviously Chris Majikowski the 
the immortal Chris Majikowski. 

996
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,720
But we've we've had a lot of fun
here and hopefully you guys have

997
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,800
really enjoyed the ride. 
I'll give you some more stuff 

998
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,720
when I get to the arena. 
What time we, what time is the 

999
00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:21,040
bus leaving? 
What time you and I, are we 

1000
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,960
going to walk you and I? 
Right, All right. 

1001
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,080
If it's not raining. 
Yeah, it is raining now, right 

1002
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,520
around. 
OK, so we're going to leave the 

1003
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,640
hotel, the team hotel, right 
around 4:00-ish. 

1004
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,360
And he's right, because it was 
raining when we woke up this 

1005
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:34,840
morning. 
If it's not raining, we'll walk.

1006
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,400
You know, it's about 3/4 of a 
mile. 

1007
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:37,800
Mink, you're going to make it on
the walk. 

1008
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,600
You're all right. 
OK. 

1009
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:40,840
I like it. 
That a boy. 

1010
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,280
Very. 
He's he's ready. 

1011
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:43,440
No, no, no. 
Mink, They. 

1012
00:50:43,720 --> 00:50:47,240
What's for lunch? 
You just ate breakfast, dude, 

1013
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,680
It's God damn it. 
Yeah, you got to see him. 

1014
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,160
He he is. 
He is the gem. 

1015
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,360
There is there are very few 
people like the mink man. 

1016
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,600
He is a special breed in his own
crazy unique way. 

1017
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,080
Listen, office in this business 
are are whacking in some regard.

1018
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,320
He is a trip, though. 
He is a trip. 

1019
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,400
And he's not lying. 
Like he literally writes 

1020
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,920
everything out. 
Good evening everybody and 

1021
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,400
welcome like word for word. 
And but he's right though. 

1022
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,600
Like it's funny even like when I
start a show, it's crazy and 

1023
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:22,840
it's hard to explain it. 
Like when the 1st, it's 

1024
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,400
definitely a mental thing, 
obviously. 

1025
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,240
But like when those first 3456 
words pop and they mesh and you 

1026
00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:31,880
feel good and the mind and the 
body's In Sync, Generally, those

1027
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:36,800
first couple of minutes are 
really strong, you know, and 

1028
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,920
there's times where either, you 
know, you might have a technical

1029
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,560
issue or you get a little 
distracted or you stumble on a 

1030
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,960
word because we're human. 
And then he's right. 

1031
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,960
It's like you're playing catch 
up, even though it doesn't sound

1032
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,240
as bad to the audience. 
But in our mind we're like, man,

1033
00:51:50,240 --> 00:51:52,560
I just, I just messed that up 
and I was so ready to start the 

1034
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,200
show. 
And now you're kind of chasing 

1035
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,880
that, that, that, that better, 
you know, that better foundation

1036
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,480
to get the show going. 
He's not wrong with that. 

1037
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,720
So I'm going to go do a little 
bit more work on the game notes 

1038
00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:03,880
here. 
Get ready for Duke. 

1039
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,640
Obviously, you know Pam Boozer 
is the horse out there top three

1040
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,280
NBA pick his brother brother 
Kaden becomes a lot more 

1041
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:14,480
important if if they don't get 
their their their their point 

1042
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,080
guard back in in foster. 
I don't know if he's going to 

1043
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:18,840
play. 
We don't know yet with the foot 

1044
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,720
injury got hurt March 7th. 
But in in a lot of ways, even 

1045
00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:25,320
though he's he's an upright and 
and and Kaden's played pretty 

1046
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,520
well too, but Foster's 
different. 

1047
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,560
Like he's their point guard. 
And to me, I don't know, it's 

1048
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,600
pretty enticing. 
Like if he's out there and he 

1049
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,960
doesn't fully trust his body yet
and he's not great 

1050
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,840
cardiovascularly because he 
couldn't really do much running 

1051
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,640
since March 7th a couple weeks 
ago. 

1052
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,800
Now you're off your feet for a 
couple of weeks, you know, 

1053
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,360
stationary shooting and you 
know, riding a bicycle is not 

1054
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,400
going to get you ready for that 
up tempo St. 

1055
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,040
John's defense when they come 
trapping you or they try to not 

1056
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,880
try or they make your life 
absolutely miserable trying to 

1057
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,520
inbound the ball. 
That's the other thing guys, if 

1058
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,920
you're if you're just kind of 
jumping into the St. 

1059
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:02,760
John's stuff, watch how St. 
John's even on like them, it 

1060
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:07,360
could be 36 seconds into the 
game, the most benign inbound 

1061
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,440
right. 
I don't mean with 9 seconds left

1062
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,240
in the game every time their 
opponent inbounds the ball 

1063
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,960
underneath the basket, I'm 
meaning underneath the 

1064
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,600
opponent's basket. 
St. 

1065
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,760
John's either a 5 second 
violation, A turnover, A 

1066
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,120
timeout. 
It is uncanny make am I right 

1067
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,440
with that? 
I don't think that I've ever 

1068
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:31,520
seen a team so adept and so 
precise and locked in in and and

1069
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,920
making somebody else 
uncomfortable just trying to 

1070
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,840
inbound the ball. 
It's amazing. 

1071
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:37,280
They are they're not good at 
that. 

1072
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,400
They are great at that. 
All right, so I'm going to go 

1073
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,760
chill for a little bit. 
Got to sip some coffee, relax, 

1074
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,080
suit up in a couple of hours, 
get ready to walk over to 

1075
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,080
Capital One, home of the 
Wizards, home of the Georgetown 

1076
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,480
Hoyas. 
But after tonight, it will be 

1077
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,280
the home of the Johnnies. 
So have yourself an awesome 

1078
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,160
Friday. 
I'll catch you a little later. 

1079
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,480
More content in the arena behind
the scenes. 

1080
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,840
I'll bring you on the court and 
all that stuff as St. 

1081
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,960
John's warms up. 
Appreciate you guys checking in.

1082
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:08,040
Like it subscribe it and on the 
road with the red storm and so 

1083
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,120
far life is good and has been 
one awesome ride that we have 

1084
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:15,920
all waited for for so long. 
So let's let's keep it moving. 

1085
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,880
By the way, shout out to my 
buddies over at Sullivan for 

1086
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,080
pain. 
Of course, big sponsor of the BT

1087
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,720
on Lee show Sullivan for pain, 
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1088
00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:27,680
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That's trial law1.com to check 

1089
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,240
that out. 
And that's it. 

1090
00:54:29,240 --> 00:54:32,360
I will see you in a couple of 
hours inside of Capital One 

1091
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:33,800
Arena Peace.
