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Max freed. 
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actually not that worried what's
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on a Thursday. 
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the and a lot of the games have 
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at 8. 
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dropping now we know The Jets 
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Listen, I'm not going to, I'm 

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not going to front here. 
It was not a good day for the 

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Yankees yesterday. 
I obviously understand that. 

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I mean, poor Anthony Volpe, he's
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And I mean, he, he basically 
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player. 
We'll get to him in a minute. 

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We'll get to the Yankee offense,
which has been beyond Dorman and

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beyond embarrassing now for a 
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Max Freed, you know, we will we 
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point today. 
J Rod is feverishly, you know, 

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refreshing Twitter and making 
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whether it's passing, whether 
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know, all that Joel Sherman, 
Heyman, everybody who covers the

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the Yankees in Major League 
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I'm actually not really worried 
about this. 

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I'm really worried about the 
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to. 
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for some reason. 
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not worried is because of the 
location of the pain. 

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Now, I'm not saying he's out 
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he's making his next start. 
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say that he actually would hope 
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Listen guys, it, it's when 
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outside part of the elbow, the 
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never Tommy John. 
It's just not Tommy John. 

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You talk about the older 
collateral ligament that I've 

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got a nice little 6 inch gash 
here to prove it is on the 

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inside. 
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think about worst case scenario 
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the forearm tightness is 
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that. 
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backed up by imaging. 
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me alarmed. 
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doesn't feel right, then I'd 
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expect him to be on the 
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That's one. 
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actually just feel acute pain 
right here, that's something 

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else. 
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even though I just did to a 
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pretty much common baseball 
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bone chip like Tarek Schuble 
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I, I honestly don't know he's 
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hyperextension or almost like he
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when you're going for Tommy 
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So it is interesting though. 
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your bullpen. 
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Is it going to be Weathers or is
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So I do want to play this. 
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Max Free left with injury. 
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interesting. 
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who deserves to be a starter. 
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thing, but ultimately you're 
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tough conversation with one of 
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be somebody else, which I doubt.
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playing this out? 
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those two guys who might right 
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the bullpen? 
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ultimately we'll sit down if we 
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they're throwing great. 
They're they, they are really 

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good starting pitchers 
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what we're doing. 
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difficult decision when the time
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a ways away, we'll make it. 
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piping hot his coffee was that I
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caught on, I was like, this guy 
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He's got a little bonfire. 
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blunt, banging back a Marlboro 
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The Hell's going on? 
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Things hot. 
Pretty interesting timing there.

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Yeah, hot coffee's the worst. 
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here, obviously, right, because 
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machine that we have in our home
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So I'll just drop an ice cube in
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goes, I, I don't think it's 
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say 100 to like 80 with the ice 
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work this. 
I mean, boom, boom. 

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Seems like a a bit of a, a 
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wearing his head. 
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If you guys missed the 
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We had a lot of different stuff.
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obviously before a game late 
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moved the game up. 
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schedule and, you know, 
logistically kind of moving some

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things around. 
I first thing I said, I'm like, 

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dude, why are you wearing your 
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And we talked about jazz and we 
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I I do understand the the fear 
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of it is premature And I think I
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30 minutes, we can get the 
complete opposite and I'll look 

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like a dope. 
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will will really go unfounded. 
You know, they will not be 

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proven true. 
I am not worried about any news 

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today with Max freed. 
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we'll see you in a year and a 
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Like I just don't expect that. 
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the case, well, that's a 
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I do think that the Yankees 
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lot. 
You know, I'd rather not see, 

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you know, Max Freed or one of 
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you don't see anybody go down 
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surplus of above average 
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And when you have that you, 
you've got the ability to absorb

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some dents and and some issues 
that are going to invariably pop

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up at some point over the course
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The biggest issue right now is 
this pathetic poultry, 

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disgraceful and disgusting and 
impotent New York Yankee 

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offense. 
I mean it really is the same 

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damn thing every day. 
If Ben Rice doesn't crank A2 run

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shot, if Aaron Judge doesn't 
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doesn't do something, I mean, 
the Yankees are running out 

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essentially 5 automatic outs. 
And, and I understand, you know,

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you hear the term under the hood
and I love the numbers and I do 

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believe there's value there, you
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2O2177. 
All right, let's see, is he 

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hitting into bad luck? 
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What's the whiff rate? 
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What's the squared up rate? 
All those different rates that 

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that do tell you a more clear 
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somebody's just been in in a bad
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really lost. 
Like I will at least say this, 

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even though I'm not a Grisham 
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believer certainly is a lead off
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But if you look at Grisham's 
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at Jazz Chisholm's, I mean, they
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I mean, Grisham has truly been 
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But and, and Grisham and and 
Jazz has just been an absolute 

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unmitigated disaster. 
And I'll get back to Jazz in a 

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little bit here, but the the 
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heavily on some of these 
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you know, as as being maybe a 
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favorable results is because 
there's just too many years of 

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evidence where he's been a 
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I mean, now he hasn't always 
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I get that. 
And last year he really was 

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Plus 800 OPS, 34 bombs. 

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I get it. 
He was good, But that was the 

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outlier. 
Like that proved to be the 

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anomaly here. 
And you look at these averages 

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and it's not, it's not April 
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I mean, we're in the middle of 
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We're getting ready for the 
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And we'll get to the Mets in a 
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juice and, and Soto, Oh my God, 
I mean, Borois Soto's having a 

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rough go, but it looks like he 
avoided disaster with that foul 

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ball. 
We're getting ready for the 

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first Mets Yankees Subway 
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And you got Grisham hitting 
$1.75, Jazz hitting two O 3, 

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McMahon hitting 196, and he's 
hitting 196 after a three-week 

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run where he's been pretty good.
Volpe's, you know, Volpe's just 

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back. 
But until further notice, he's 

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still a mess. 
And Austin Wells just appears to

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never be the kind of hitter that
we either hoped or thought he 

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would be. 
So while many of you are are 

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fixated on Max Freed and and I 
understand that he's a terrific 

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pitcher. 
He's a workhorse. 

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He's one of the top 10 pitchers 
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And when you pair that with Cam 
and then you pair that 

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eventually with the return of 
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got a a rotation that's, as I've
said many times, has a real 

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chance to be the best in 
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You got to put that on pause for
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But I, I get as I, as I unpack 
what's wrong with the Yankees, 

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to me, it's very apparent that 
it's really their offense and 

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it's crazy because they hit it. 
But I mean, this, this part, 

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we've seen a lot. 
They hit a lot of home runs. 

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And I know that boom. 
Like there's been a lot of talk 

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about like the, The Who is it 
the Rays and maybe the Brewers 

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and, and what other team, not 
the Dodgers, the Braves, the 

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Brewers, I guess it's the 
Braves, the Brewers and the 

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Philly up. 
What am I saying here? 

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The Rays, the Braves and the 
Brewers have, you know, among 

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the most singles in baseball. 
You know, now there's and and 

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the Yankees have like the fewest
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on base. 
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really, with two strikes. 
Like those are all reflective of

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a team that, you know, is going 
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extra insurance run, which 
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That's why they flushed a couple
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weekend in Milwaukee the other 
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basically threw a no hitter. 
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double belly, you know, round 
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over to 3rd. 
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Swing it for the moon, Empty it 
bat Yankees leave what would 

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have been a very precious run on
third base. 

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So these are things that have 
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Like if you look at and then 
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obviously hasn't been the same, 
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the common themes here is that 
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reliant on on certainly one guy 
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And, and like, it's one thing if
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averages, which, which obviously
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on base guys, you know, and, and
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out some walks and, you know, 
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dudes, it's just, it's, it's 
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You know, I mean, I got, I got 
to be real here. 

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I I really do think that the 
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unless we get awful news on 
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but they're going to have to 
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have to get the young buck up 
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Now this made some news 
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I want to play this ass boon 
about Lombard. 

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Obviously, you know, he can come
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What about the offense? 
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Lombard, which would change a 
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2026? 
Here he is. 

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So somebody like Lombard, you 
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can put them in 3rd. 
He'd be great. 

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Short grade, 2nd grade, probably
throw them in left field. 

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Does he have a chance to be on 
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year? 
Walking a ton, he's hitting the 

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ball really hard. 
He's hitting some tough luck. 

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He can really defend. 
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be a factor for us this year. 
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necessarily too quick because 
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he's 21 years old and he's not 
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OK, so you look at the Yankees 
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around the horn, first, second, 
short, third. 

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Obviously Rice is going to play 
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You get a little Goldie as well.
Rice is the man. 

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You got Jazz at 2nd for now. 
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and you got McMahon at third 
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I actually think that there is a
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of the current Yankee infield is
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Rice will remain at first. 
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they trade jazz or start 
platooning him. 

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And I asked Aaron about that 
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if this keeps going on with 
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platoon, a candidate here? 
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He talked about meritocracy, 
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because he doesn't want to, you 
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But if you really listen to the 
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on the YouTube channel. 
I think you got the answer that 

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you were looking for. 
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certainly a real possibility. 
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I mean, do I think Volpe's 
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postseason? 
Probably not. 

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And then obviously Lombard, if 
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impact third base, could impact 
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You know, I I don't really know,
but here's what I do know, 

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right? 
And I really feel badly for 

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Anthony Volpe and it's one game 
and I don't want to go nuts 

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here. 
That was an easy ground ball. 

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Like the way he even the way he 
caught it. 

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You know, I don't want to get 
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you know, that's it. 
It's almost like he he he looked

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like a a young short stuff, a 
young kid playing shortstop 

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who's not really a shortstop and
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the ball up and keep it in front
of him. 

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And we started to see that last 
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defensively. 
We saw a lot of time he was 

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going down to one knee. 
I mean, forget about the throws 

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that are kind of, you know, 
losing steam as they go across 

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the diamond that that's pretty 
obvious. 

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He doesn't have a really good 
arm at all. 

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And the numbers back that up. 
But it it was almost like he was

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fielding grounders, like an 
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knee, trying to keep the ball in
front of them on a hard hit, you

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know, 2 hop rocket to the 
outfield. 

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So I do, I feel terribly for 
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You know, he's wearing it, you 
know, and then here he just 

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comes back and think about the 
circumstances, right? 

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So Caballero's bowling. 
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Caballero says when he's leaving
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nine days, you know, not that 
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that in his mind, that is his 
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That is his position. 
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He knows that the grip on the 
positions already gone because 

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Caballero has been terrific. 
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Caballero just itching again, 
who didn't even want to go on 

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the IL, who fought and kicked 
and screamed and protested. 

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And that's what Boone told me, 
and he told you guys as well. 

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So he's coming back and he's 
going to play shortstop, right? 

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Do I envision the the Yankees 
moving Volpe to second base at 

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some point this year? 
I don't know. 

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I mean, you're trying to get the
kid in in the right spot 

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mentally in the batter's box. 
Now you're going to have him 

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learn a new position. 
I mean, that's that's a little 

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risky, although I wouldn't be 
averse to it. 

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I'm not sure if they will, if 
they will be. 

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And then, you know, obviously 
Lombard can play second, short 

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or third. 
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minors and in spring training. 
See the problem with Anthony 

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Volpe right And this was really 
my biggest concern now if you go

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to my ex account and you go 
probably four or five, I was 

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actually tweeting quite a bit 
yesterday. 

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If you go down like four or five
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somebody had a Volpe strikeout 
and then you know, I sub tweeted

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it and I and I weighed in right 
and it's about a 15 or a 16. 

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I can't play it now because of 
trademarks and all that other 

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stuff whatever. 
So I'll just describe it and you

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don't even have to see it to 
know item number one, why Volpe 

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is just never going to be a 
consistent hitter until this is 

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addressed right. 
So it's a 15 or 16 second video,

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2 seconds in, you see his front 
foot. 

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As you know, again, I'm not 
trying to get coachy, but as you

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load and as you launch, think 
about this, right? 

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And it's hard to do for a young 
hitter. 

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But I mean, he was a first round
pick and he he's been in the 

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bigs for a couple of years. 
This should be figured out and 

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this, this what I, I try to 
teach my son and you know what I

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try to teach the kids I coach 
take a rubber band, right? 

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You if you take a rubber band 
and you pull it back like this 

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much and then you kind of fire 
it across the room, it's only 

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going to go so far. 
If you take the same rubber band

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and you maximize the the stretch
and then you release it, it's 

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physics. 
OK, So when you when you load 

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and when you launch with your 
front foot, obviously you want 

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to stay back, but and you want 
to get your front foot on the 

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ground. 
All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna, 

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I'm gonna stop with the hitting 
coach stuff there. 

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But that's basic stuff. 
You got to load, you got to 

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launch, you got to stretch and 
you got to be ready to just 

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unlike unleash that that rubber 
band. 

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And that's where the contact, 
the hard contact, the exit 

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velocity, those are the great 
hitters. 

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It almost doesn't matter what 
you do. 

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You know, you can stand like 
this eucalyptus. 

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It doesn't matter, Mattingly, 
you know, Carew, as long as you 

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get to there, you're going to 
hit and you can recognize 

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pitches, right? 
And then as soon as he starts 

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his load and his launch and gets
his front foot down, his front 

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foot, you have to see this on my
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His front foot starts to go 
toward the third baseline, third

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base dugout right away. 
And if you are a Major League 

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pitcher and you see that, all 
you do is feed sliders away, 

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change UPS away, elevate once in
a while, OK, just a little show 

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me fastball upstairs, out of the
zone, something that you can't 

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get on top of it. 
I mean, when that ball is coming

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in and it's letter high, it's 
like, oh, I got this. 

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But then when you actually try 
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hard to do, not only for Volpee,
for anybody, right? 

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So to me, there is so much wrong
with his swing and the reason 

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why and I'm rooting for him and 
I love him. 

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I really love him. 
I think he's a great kid. 

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I've become pretty good friends 
with his dad. 

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I actually texted his dad the 
other day. 

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I said welcome back and all that
stuff. 

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He got right back to me. 
I met his pops once. 

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Great guy, great guy used to 
listen on the fan came to the 

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came to our show at the Javits 
Center and I was waiting around 

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after me and Sal we're done and 
or during one of the breaks and 

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one of one of our producers 
said, hey, you know, Mr. Volpe 

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wants to introduce himself. 
So I went over and I said hi to 

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him and and we really struck up 
a nice friendship and you know, 

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you could just he's a doctor. 
He's he's a great, great family.

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Anthony's a terrific young man, 
well mannered, respectful of 

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great athlete in terms of speed 
and all that stuff. 

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But his swing is absolutely 
broken and busted. 

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And the problem with the surgery
and the rehabilitation this 

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offseason, see, when you've got 
a, when you've got a hole in 

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your game, the offseason is when
you fix it. 

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Yeah, you can try to tweak 
during the season, but if 

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there's a mechanical, whether 
it's shooting like Mitchell 

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Robinson with free throws, 
whatever it might be, when there

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is a mechanical overhaul, it's 
got to be where there's a lot of

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downtime and there's dead time. 
Because if you're trying to 

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figure things out and implement,
I don't mean little slight 

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tweaks. 
Those guys are always messing 

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around with little things. 
I'm talking about a radical 

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overhaul to to how you swing the
bat. 

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And if you're trying to do that 
in May or June against these 

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dudes at this level, it's good 
luck. 

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It's just not going to work. 
And. 

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And and if it does work, it's 
not going to be consistently 

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there for you. 
It's just not all right. 

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So the problem with Volpe and 
why I just, I just, I just don't

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think he's ever going to hit 
with any sort of consistency is 

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because the period that he could
have used to get better, it's 

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not his fault he got hurt. 
But what should have been a 

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dedicated 3 month window to 
finally address what's wrong 

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with his swing, the hole in his 
swing, which for some reason the

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Yankee coaches didn't find. 
Can somebody explain? 

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You got to take a little 
sidestep here. 

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Can somebody explain to me right
who a guy me me and this I'm 

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like I'm talking about me, the 
guy who played mid major, not 

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even not SEC, not big 10, not 
back in the PAC 12, mid major 

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Division One baseball and struck
out a lot more than I wanted to.

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How can I watch a 16 second clip
and within the 1st 2 seconds 

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tell everybody what's wrong with
his swing? 

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And here we are year 4 drafted 
right, right around COVID. 

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It's 2026 and the Yankee 
organization has not fixed his 

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swing. 
How is that possible? 

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I don't understand it it now 
it's again, it's one thing if 

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you just don't have like the 
requisite bat speed or you just 

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can't recognize pitches. 
Maybe. 

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And I have said about Anthony 
and I believe this he was 

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overdrafted. 
You know, to me, Anthony Volpe 

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as a first round pick with the 
expectations, not to mention 

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being a jersey kid, Yankee fan 
pressure like that's all stuff 

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that just makes his life more 
difficult. 

441
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,040
It's it's tough for the kid 
right. 

442
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:49,240
But when you swing that way, you
you're just not going to be a 

443
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,240
reliable, consistent night to 
night hitter. 

444
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,280
And this is not year one. 
He's not in high rookie ball 

445
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,240
where they're like, all right, 
we knew we can run. 

446
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,240
We knew we could pick it. 
He's got a little pop, he's got 

447
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,120
a little juice. 
We got to just tweak this. 

448
00:22:00,120 --> 00:22:03,040
We love the kids make up. 
He's a he's a great, great from 

449
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,440
a great family. 
We know with our coaching that 

450
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,760
we're going to unlock just that 
little 10/12/15 percent. 

451
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,840
He's got to fix and he's going 
to be an All Star. 

452
00:22:12,360 --> 00:22:15,400
It is 2026. 
This is Year 4 for Anthony 

453
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,560
Volpe, Year 4, and he's got the 
same exact swing. 

454
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,320
The only thing that changes once
in a while is, you know, they 

455
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,760
like the arc on his swing. 
Sometimes it's a little flatter,

456
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,880
which is good. 
Sometimes he's, you know, he's 

457
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,440
chasing, you know, he's chasing 
power and he's swinging from his

458
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,760
heels like it's just a broken 
swing. 

459
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,680
And you know, when, when you are
that vulnerable, I mean, man, 

460
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,400
you step into a Major League 
batter's box and nowadays and 

461
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,240
you're facing everybody's 
throwing 97, everybody's 

462
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,040
throwing 98. 
Everybody's RPMS are just the 

463
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,240
revolution. 
They're dropping off tables, 

464
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,680
whether it's vertical, whether 
it's horizontal. 

465
00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:57,440
I mean, what home plate? 
I think what 17 inches in, in 

466
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,040
terms of width, there are 
pitchers in baseball who 

467
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,800
actually have 1819 inches 
horizontal brake. 

468
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,840
Think about that. 
Their brake is bigger than home 

469
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:12,360
plate. 
So when, when Volpe steps in and

470
00:23:12,360 --> 00:23:15,080
they, they know he's going to, 
it's, it's kind of just stepping

471
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,920
in the bucket. 
It's like, you know, when you, 

472
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,080
when you're coaching T-ball, 
hey, don't step in the bucket, 

473
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:19,880
buddy. 
Come on now. 

474
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,760
Let's get that front foot to the
pitcher. 

475
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,960
I, it, it is really one of the 
more confounding things, and 

476
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,080
there's a lot of confounding 
things recently about, more than

477
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:34,600
recently about the Yankees. 
To me, that really might be #1 

478
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,000
it is their organizational 
hitting approach. 

479
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,320
I mean, it really is all right. 
Judge is, is obviously 

480
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,440
different. 
Bellinger, who is their third 

481
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,480
best hitter behind Rice. 
Rice and Judge. 

482
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,640
Bellinger came from a different 
organization. 

483
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,040
Ben Rice is is just a yeah, I 
think Ben Rice, the kind of kid 

484
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,840
came out of the womb. 
He was mashing everybody else. 

485
00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,080
Like they they've got the same 
broken fundamentals like 

486
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,280
Dominguez couldn't figure it out
for the right side. 

487
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,720
Spencer Jones strikes out 35% in
the minors and they'll do the 

488
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,440
same in the majors. 
You know, Anthony Volpe can't 

489
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,760
hit, you know, I mean, all the, 
you know, all the Oswaldo 

490
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,120
Cabrera and now suddenly he's 
pretty like all these other guys

491
00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:19,120
that find success peraza, that 
find success elsewhere are are 

492
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,960
are almost better when they 
leave it. 

493
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,560
It really is amazing. 
So it is a massive problem at 

494
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,960
shortstop. 
I don't expect much of an uptick

495
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,920
here because he has not been 
able to work on his biggest 

496
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,680
issue. 
And it is a colossal 1 that just

497
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,040
even slightly above average 
major. 

498
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,880
You don't have to be an elite 
pitcher, slightly above average 

499
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,840
Major League pitching. 
You will exploit that because 

500
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,280
it's so easy to exploit. 
He's giving away half the plate,

501
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,680
he's giving away half of the 
zone and that is like taking 

502
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,760
candy from a baby. 
You're on the mound. 

503
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,440
You're like, all right, man, let
me just buzz 1 upstairs, 

504
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,040
probably foul it back and then 
I'm just going boom, soft, soft,

505
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,480
maybe a show me fastball inside 
back them off an inch doop. 

506
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,120
Let me drop the slider outside, 
bring them up. 

507
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,240
He's either going to take it. 
He's either going to roll it 

508
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,520
over to shortstop or he's going 
to, you know, just whiff and and

509
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,880
miss by be out in front of it. 
I I just, it really, really is 

510
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,720
frustrating and it's really a 
shame because that is one thing 

511
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,200
that the Yankees have proven to 
be very bad at. 

512
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,040
That's just got to be said. 
I don't know what they're doing.

513
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,080
The moment that these young men 
are drafted and they go to 

514
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:35,720
rookie or hi a or as as they 
progress through the system, 

515
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,680
there's just no what what I 
whatever their organizational 

516
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,440
offensive philosophy is, it 
stinks. 

517
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,280
It stinks. 
It really just stinks. 

518
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:53,200
So by the time they get to the 
show, it's it's almost too late 

519
00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:55,400
in in a in a lot of 
circumstances. 

520
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,360
You know, I'll tell you what I 
think is going to happen with 

521
00:25:57,360 --> 00:25:58,880
Volpe in a minute, but I want to
read this here. 

522
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:04,040
It's the maid K star in the but 
usually it's the June swoon. 

523
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,960
So it's starting early for the 
Yankees here. 

524
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,320
All right, so we're getting the 
get the jokes out of the shoot. 

525
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,680
Richie Squires 986 with a 
special guest appearance by 

526
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,520
Anthony Volpe. 
I mean, listen, yeah, it really,

527
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,600
it couldn't start off worse. 
Routine Grounder bobbles it 

528
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,160
strike out, you know, so and 
then listen, here's what I think

529
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,800
is going to happen to Volpe. 
I think that and I am rooting 

530
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:26,840
for him. 
You guys know that. 

531
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,680
I don't need to keep saying it. 
That's probably the last time 

532
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,840
I'll say it. 
You know, I'm rooting like hell 

533
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:35,320
for this young man. 
But you just get the sense that 

534
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,920
that Anthony Volpe is going to 
have to find himself somewhere 

535
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,200
else. 
You know, like he's going to be 

536
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:46,680
a throw in at some point in in a
trade, you know, like the only 

537
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,280
way I don't see that because 
he's not playing shortstop. 

538
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,880
Like Lombard's the shortstop 
period. 

539
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,240
You know, Caballero's going to 
be the shortstop, but he's 

540
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,440
healthy for the for most of the 
season. 

541
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,320
And then it's the George Lombard
Show and it's going to be a hell

542
00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,080
of a show. 
That guy. 

543
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,640
That's one guy who the Yankees 
can't mess up. 

544
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,320
I think he's different. 
I think he's built different. 

545
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,720
I think his IQ is different. 
I think his feel for the game is

546
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,680
different. 
I think his skill sets 

547
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,600
different. 
Like Lombard is going to be 

548
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,320
phenomenal and Lombard is going 
to be the shortstop. 

549
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,000
So, you know, a couple of things
going to happen here. 

550
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,280
He's either going to be, he's 
going to be the shortstop and 

551
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,600
Caballero is going to move over 
to 2nd or if Volpe, you know, 

552
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,480
shows that he can actually get 
the job done, you know, after 

553
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,080
this year, you move on from 
McMahon, maybe Caballero plays a

554
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,880
little bit of third base. 
Maybe, you know, you punt Volpe 

555
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,200
over the second. 
But it is absolutely gross 

556
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,800
watching this Yankee, this 
Yankee line up here. 

557
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,120
Everybody's worried about Max 
Freed. 

558
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,840
To me, it's the offense even, 
you know, I'm not trying to 

559
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,600
tempt fate here. 
And I don't think that this is 

560
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,520
the case. 
But even if we got the worst 

561
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:54,600
news possible for Max Freed 
today, right, the Yankees will 

562
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,520
still be fine. 
It will still be fine whether 

563
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,800
it's Rodriguez, whether it's 
Legron, Hay, Clark, Schmidt's 

564
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,840
coming back. 
Roldan's fine at the back of the

565
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,120
bull, at the back of the 
rotation. 

566
00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:10,560
Schlitzler's an ace, one of the 
best pitchers in baseball. 

567
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,600
You know, you obviously there's 
a bit of a variable here. 

568
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,840
You hope that Garrett Cole is 
still kind of close to being 

569
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,800
Garrett Cole. 
And if he is, then everything's 

570
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,680
good. 
Now, if he's not, you know, and 

571
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,600
there's no Max Freed, all right,
maybe that's that. 

572
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,600
That not maybe that would be a 
different consideration, a 

573
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,520
different level of fear. 
But you know, here we are and 

574
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,560
you know, every night it's the 
same stuff. 

575
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,200
There's Grisham. 
And I just don't want to hear 

576
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,360
about Grisham. 
I'm like, that is one guy. 

577
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:38,920
I'm just not interested in 
hearing what's under the hood. 

578
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,640
I don't care about his advanced 
analytics. 

579
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:46,160
And this is coming from somebody
who embraces and understands and

580
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,560
implements advanced analytics. 
In almost every show that I do, 

581
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,200
at some point it comes up, some 
obviously a little bit more than

582
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,680
others. 
I just don't want to hear about 

583
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,600
it with Trent Grisham, unless 
he's batting 7th or 8th. 

584
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,440
That's different. 
Lead off, man, Not interested. 

585
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:06,240
So here we are, the first little
wrench J Rod in the New York 

586
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,680
Yankee season. 
And again, just to finish the 

587
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,640
thought on Volpe, Poor Volpe 
comes back. 

588
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,560
Obviously Caballero's been 
bowling. 

589
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,280
He said he's telling you, I'll 
be back in nine days, 8 days, 

590
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,720
whatever. 
This guy's a dog. 

591
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,920
And now you got to throw Volpe 
right in the middle of the 

592
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:25,680
Subway Series with all that 
it's, you know, I mean, good 

593
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:26,800
luck. 
Don't be rough. 

594
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,960
It's. 
Going to be rough now. 

595
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,560
I mean, I hope I don't know how 
you how it doesn't look like 

596
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:33,640
it's. 
I don't know how it's going to 

597
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,960
be anything other than rough. 
I really don't. 

598
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,600
But I'm not really worried about
Freed. 

599
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,680
Have you been checking? 
Oh, I mean, I know you've been. 

600
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,640
Checking. 
Yeah, I've been checking. 

601
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,360
Haven't seen anything yet 
though. 

602
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,960
Yeah, just people saying that's 
all I can think about today. 

603
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,520
Yeah, you know, I will tell you 
that I didn't know what the hell

604
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,280
happened and I was watching the 
game. 

605
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,800
Well, it has commands off and 
it's not the first like really 

606
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,000
like 3 games in rows. 
Commands been a little bit off 

607
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,080
there. 
So usually, like when it's a 

608
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,400
real issue, usually there's a 
discernible drop in velocity. 

609
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,080
Not the case. 
There's obviously in, in, in 

610
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,440
inside pane rather than outside 
pane. 

611
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,720
Not the case. 
And he didn't, you know, he 

612
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,760
didn't just like leave in the 
middle of the game. 

613
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,320
Not the case. 
I mean, he did, but he didn't 

614
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,360
like walk off the mound holding 
his arm is what I mean. 

615
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,720
And he didn't express, I didn't 
detect really an ounce of of 

616
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,760
fear or trepidation in terms of 
what he thinks that that imaging

617
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,880
is going to spit back. 
So I'm not worried about Freed, 

618
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,080
but it does go to show you, you 
know, that like just the 

619
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,960
vulnerability of a baseball 
season. 

620
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,880
He just. 
Things could change in a snap. 

621
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,200
They do change in a snap. 
I mean, look at school now. 

622
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,400
He'll be back, But look at 
school. 

623
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,840
You know, really, the Dodgers 
have proven to be the only team 

624
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,080
who have been able to absorb all
these injuries. 

625
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,400
It's like they seem to always 
get healthy at the right time. 

626
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,960
It's almost like they planned 
this out, like they sit their 

627
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,440
starters for a while, bring it 
back at the end of the year and 

628
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,680
they're nice and fresh and ready
to go on a run. 

629
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,000
But this is I mean, this this 
has always been the case with 

630
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,520
baseball. 
I think it's more amplified in 

631
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,960
the last 2530 years. 
Like, I don't, I don't know, 

632
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,400
maybe I'm misremembering this. 
And we, we have a tendency to do

633
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,640
this. 
Like we, we feel like we saw one

634
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,160
thing. 
But let me, let me take a step 

635
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,320
back. 
Something today bothers us a 

636
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,320
little bit. 
And then when we try to draw the

637
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,240
comparison to back in the day, 
we almost embellished like what 

638
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,040
back in the day was, you know 
what I mean? 

639
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:35,040
They're almost even unknowingly 
to justify our point about today

640
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,920
or our reservations about today.
But like when I was growing up, 

641
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,400
I don't know, man. 
I feel like Ron Guidry never 

642
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,880
missed the start. 
You know, Steve Carlton never 

643
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,800
missed the start and all he 
starts at Dwight Goodman was 

644
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,240
when he was in drug rehab, you 
know, like Fernando. 

645
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,560
I don't know. 
These guys just never missed 

646
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,360
starts. 
It's absolutely it's it's weird,

647
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,080
dude. 
So, yeah, I'm in a I'm in a 

648
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,600
strange mood with the Yankees 
here. 

649
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:03,960
Now, I will say this, what I 
said last week, I stand by, I 

650
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,640
think that this Yankees team is 
different than the recent ones I

651
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,320
do now. 
It's a little harder to sell 

652
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,960
today understood. 
Nobody wants to hear that today.

653
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,480
Understood. 
But it's still got to be about 

654
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,520
the big picture. 
I know that I know, listen, I 

655
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,720
know the game. 
I played the game in terms of 

656
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,320
actual like the content game. 
I don't mean the actual game. 

657
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,360
Play the game for a long time. 
I've done the dance for a long 

658
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,760
time, right? 
I understand. 

659
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,360
Even back in the day, Mariano, I
remember Beau blew a couple of 

660
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,920
saves against the Red Sox in 
April, whatever year that was, 

661
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,880
and everybody was all over them,
including me. 

662
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,960
I'm like, huh, maybe this is the
end of MO. 

663
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,920
Like this is what we do, this is
what we do, and this is who we 

664
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,840
are. 
The micro analysis for baseball 

665
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,880
is it's very unique to to a few 
cities, most of which are in the

666
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,800
Northeast there. 
And that's just part of the 

667
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,360
deal. 
That's what that truth of the 

668
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:00,800
matter is. 
That's why it's one of the big 

669
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:06,200
reasons why I've been a a Boon 
supporter #1 they've won a lot. 

670
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,520
But I also think when you, when 
you deal with the, the 

671
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,480
day-to-day stuff, especially 
when you're the Yankees that 

672
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,280
that are going, that's going to 
pop up, right? 

673
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,240
And even back in the day, like 
Tori would handle that stuff 

674
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,520
with a rod really well. 
You know, any little step, David

675
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,960
Wells, like, hey, whatever, 
we're just playing ball. 

676
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,760
I'm going to, you know, we're 
going to get into it behind 

677
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,480
closed doors and I'm the boss 
and like, if you have the right 

678
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,400
guy in charge. 
And I do think that Boone and 

679
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:35,040
and Tori are different in in 
terms of demeanor, but I think 

680
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,960
Aaron Boone's greatest asset, 
and I've said this to him and 

681
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,800
I've said this about him many 
times, is that he he very he is 

682
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:45,400
very good at he actually, I 
think he's great at managing any

683
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:51,840
sort of smoke or or noise or 
flare up or anything that could 

684
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,760
get in the way of a baseball 
conversation. 

685
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,240
Like, listen, I get it. 
You want to criticize some of 

686
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,080
the bullpen moves that's 
justified, whether it's Cortez 

687
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,840
in the World Series or whether 
it's, you know, taking weathers 

688
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,000
out the other day, which which I
kind of agreed with some of you 

689
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,639
didn't, or over the weekend in 
Milwaukee more specifically. 

690
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,360
Yeah, that's always going to be 
fair game. 

691
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:15,480
But one thing about the Yanks is
like it very rarely like a 

692
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,760
story. 
It a story happens and then it 

693
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,480
it's big and then it like seeps 
into the next day. 

694
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,360
He just he cuts it off. 
And truth of the matter is, I 

695
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,800
also think they have a pretty 
good clubhouse. 

696
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,560
So there's not a lot of issues 
there. 

697
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,679
So I think it's policed very 
well by by judge and and 

698
00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:33,239
Stanton, who's hurt. 
But I think those guys said a 

699
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,719
really good professional tone 
and and the and the guys follow 

700
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,080
suit. 
But you know, it's, it's a long 

701
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,560
race and, and there's going to 
be some moments where you're 

702
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,920
like, man, it's, it's going to 
flip. 

703
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,639
The energy is going to flip 
immediately. 

704
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,000
Like one thing about these 
Yankees, they are streaky like 

705
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,320
that. 
I, I will say, and I didn't 

706
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,000
think that they were going to be
streaky this year. 

707
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,080
They started playing great. 
Remember that? 

708
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,000
And then they lost five straight
and then they got red hot and 

709
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,880
then they lost four in a row and
they just went what, one in 

710
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:03,320
five, one in five, I think it 
was on the road trip here. 

711
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,880
So they're showing this 
propensity to be a little up and

712
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,080
a little down. 
It's not because of the 

713
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,720
pitching. 
It's not because they're kicking

714
00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:13,240
the ball all around the field. 
It's not because their base 

715
00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:15,440
running is sloppy. 
It's not because Boone's not 

716
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,080
doing a good job, because 
they're not hitting, which goes 

717
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:22,160
back to my ultimate point. 
The Yankees just are not hitting

718
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,880
enough. 
Now a lot of my confidence in 

719
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,160
the Yankees this year is derived
from the belief that the team 

720
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,560
that were watching, you know, 
over the weekend and against the

721
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,640
Mets and yesterday against the 
Orioles and over the weekend 

722
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,200
against the Brewers when they 
didn't hit much. 

723
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:38,360
I just don't think that that's 
going to be the same line up. 

724
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,680
I I just don't you know, when it
really matters. 

725
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,800
And if it is, then guess what? 
I will not I will not believe 

726
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,760
that the Yankees will win the 
World Series. 

727
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,680
You know, I just like it really 
does come. 

728
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:51,600
You got to hit a little bit more
man, you know, and and I know 

729
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,440
that and I know I know that Jazz
Chisholm, who's on my last 

730
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,560
nerve. 
Jazz is going to have a month 

731
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:03,440
where he hits three O 9 with 
nine home runs and twelve stolen

732
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,520
bases and an OPS of 910. 
I understand he's going to look 

733
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,040
great for a little bit. 
And like, unless the contract 

734
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,720
really gets into his head and it
just morphs into a disastrous 

735
00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:17,080
season, which I don't really 
anticipate, Jazz is going to 

736
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,280
flash. 
But then Jazz at some point, 

737
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,840
probably at the most inopportune
time, the playoffs is going to 

738
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,080
morph back to the player and 
regress back to the player that 

739
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,000
he too often has been. 
And that is somebody who is just

740
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,960
fundamentally sloppy and Askew 
and not emotionally and 

741
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,760
physically reliable enough. 
So though that that's that's a 

742
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,880
little bit of a of an updated 
state of the Yankees, though I 

743
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:45,040
do still feel bullish on their 
chances to to do some big stuff 

744
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,920
this year because I'm I'm not 
really worried about Max Freed. 

745
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,600
Do you think that I'm under 
selling this here with Free J? 

746
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:54,560
No, I mean, listen, based on 
like his post game interview, 

747
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,320
just his emotionality, I think, 
I think you're right. 

748
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,640
There wasn't a ton of nerves in 
it. 

749
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,200
But it's all really to be 
determined, I guess. 

750
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,800
You know, it's still like in 
that weird period of up in the 

751
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,680
air. 
But based on his reaction, you 

752
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,240
know, it reminds me similarly to
the OG thing a couple weeks ago 

753
00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:13,680
where, yeah, this guy has dealt 
with a very serious injury to 

754
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,120
this area in the past, but 
because of that, they know that 

755
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,440
this current situation is not as
serious. 

756
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,040
OK, All right, let's let me just
reiterate this year. 

757
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,240
Let me reiterate this year and 
tell you guys really what the 

758
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:27,120
biggest issue with the Yankees 
has been for a long, long time. 

759
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,440
And it it goes back to what I 
was saying about Volpe and some 

760
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:31,760
of their other younger players, 
right? 

761
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,160
We have had so many different 
conversations and so many 

762
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,760
different versions of the 
conversations. 

763
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,920
The Yankees are cheap. 
They're not. 

764
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,000
But that's been said. 
The Yankees are the little 

765
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,600
brother, OK? 
I mean, that's been said, but we

766
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,320
know that that's nowhere near 
being true. 

767
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,000
The Yankees don't want to win 
the way that they used to want 

768
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,840
to win with George. 
Maybe a little bit of a version 

769
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,760
of of that is somewhat true. 
Cashman's lost his fastball that

770
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,080
I, I believe to an extent. 
Certainly with the offense, 

771
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,560
right. 
The Yankees developed pitchers. 

772
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,520
They don't develop hitters. 
The Yankees don't have enough 

773
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,720
enough good defenders. 
Like over the years, Yankees 

774
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:11,320
don't run the bases enough. 
Yankees strike out too much. 

775
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,720
Yankees are too reliant on the 
home run. 

776
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:19,000
Like, there's been so many 
different causes for either 

777
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,760
concern or alarm with the 
Yankees, but I got to tell you, 

778
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,560
I I think I just nailed it 
before. 

779
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,720
If you ask me, like, what is the
big picture, You know, 50,000 

780
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,520
feet from the sky macro 
snapshot. 

781
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,640
What's the Yankees biggest 
issue? 

782
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:40,240
The Yankees just do not draft 
and develop enough good hitters.

783
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,680
They don't they don't do it. 
There's a reason why all went 

784
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,400
through. 
I'm saying get Nico Horner, go 

785
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,760
get him. 
You know, like these are things 

786
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,440
that you got to do. 
These are players that you got 

787
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,000
to pump out. 
These are players that you have 

788
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,160
to have at the top of the lineup
who are just gritty. 

789
00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:57,520
Look at the Brewers second 
baseman. 

790
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,480
I'm phenomenal as hey, you know,
I mean, whether it's a walk off 

791
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,000
over the weekend or being on 
base or just playing the right 

792
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,800
way. 
How different would the Yankees 

793
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,760
look if you had that guy won or 
even Nico Horn or somebody like 

794
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,320
that? 
That guy won and then, you know,

795
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,360
Rice 2 and then Judge 3 and then
Beldy 4 or some version of that.

796
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,200
Like it's just a completely 
different feel. 

797
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,480
And right now, I mean, I, I 
will, even though he drives me 

798
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,080
nuts, I will put Jazz in a bit 
of a separate category here. 

799
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:31,760
I I really will because he's got
more of a track record than a 

800
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,760
lot of these guys. 
But I mean, I don't, I don't 

801
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,560
expect some amazing 
transformation to some buttoned 

802
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,920
up baseball player, but he's 
going to be better than he's 

803
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,360
can't be worse. 
He's going to be better at some 

804
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,000
point. 
There's a better version of of 

805
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,400
Jazz that will come out. 
But what about the other guys? 

806
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,160
Honestly, I mean, Volpe's going 
to hit 260 all of a sudden, 

807
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,920
really Austin Wells going to hit
250 all of a sudden. 

808
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,920
Like this is going to happen 
with with with a much lower 

809
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,600
strikeout rate. 
Why would that happen? 

810
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,000
You know, so we saw a little a 
little flicker of hope from Ryan

811
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,000
McMahon. 
I mean, even with that being 

812
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,880
said, after a three-week hot 
streak, he said 1196. 

813
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,480
That's going to change. 
You know, up Jazz has hit the 

814
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,760
ball hard, hit the ball all 
right, great. 

815
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,840
I mean, Grisham, Grisham hit the
ball hard hitting 175 and he had

816
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,280
three seasons where he hit under
200 before he got here. 

817
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,800
So. 
I really just think, and I've 

818
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,280
said this, and this is probably 
been my biggest point of 

819
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,320
contention with Brian Cashman, 
right? 

820
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,920
Which is why like this, this 
actually, if I put myself back 

821
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:37,120
to the day that I said that with
tiki on WFAN, the quote that 

822
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,240
many of you remember because 
they played on the morning show.

823
00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:41,600
I don't know if they still play 
it, but they did play it for a 

824
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:42,600
while. 
And you know, I've messed 

825
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:43,560
around, had a little fun with 
it. 

826
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,000
You know, Brian Cashman has not 
earned the right to rebuild the 

827
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,800
Yankees the way the Yankees need
to be rebuilt. 

828
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,880
Well, I was talking about their 
lack of productive hitters that 

829
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,880
come through the organization. 
Like this has been going on for 

830
00:40:54,880 --> 00:41:02,920
a long time and exhibit A, this 
won't be I I don't know how they

831
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:09,240
didn't chain chain that young 
man to a hitting T and basically

832
00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:14,880
put, you know, a 50 LB weight on
his front foot and say dude hit 

833
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,440
the ball up the middle, hit the 
ball hard the other way, let it 

834
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:23,200
get a little deep and stop 
bailing with that front foot. 

835
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,280
So listen, if if you want to 
leave the door of possibility 

836
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,760
open and say that the Yankees 
have tried to do that and 

837
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,480
Anthony Volpe's not receptive to
coaching, I don't think that at 

838
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:33,680
all. 
I mean, I don't think that 

839
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,560
there's anybody on the team that
wants to do better than Volpe. 

840
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,680
I mean, a lot of guys want to 
win and they've got a lot of 

841
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,520
grinders on the team. 
So it's not a knock on the other

842
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,280
dudes. 
But this guy grew up a Yankee 

843
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,320
fan, first round pick, New 
Jersey shortstop. 

844
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,760
I mean, his idol was Cheater 
Pops is a massive, massive 

845
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,640
Yankee fan. 
This has to be killing him. 

846
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,960
So I would imagine if the 
Yankees were instructing him to 

847
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,800
do something, that he's doing 
it. 

848
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,720
I just, I just don't think that 
they're instructing him to do 

849
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:04,320
it. 
And and I don't know. 

850
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,400
I don't, I don't know. 
I don't know why. 

851
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,720
All right. 
Are you excited about the 

852
00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:13,880
schedule leaks here or no? 
I mean, I'm definitely, I'm 

853
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,600
certainly intrigued to see 
what's going to happen. 

854
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,160
I'm not, I'm not like super 
locked in on it. 

855
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,280
But yeah, I mean, I'm looking 
for it. 

856
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:22,840
Well, hang on a SEC, hold that 
thought here. 

857
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,280
What does? 
This say I want, I want you to 

858
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,320
respond. 
To this virtual discourse, you 

859
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,040
will eviscerate Jazz but defend 
Volpe because you know the 

860
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,200
family. 
That is just an asinine, you 

861
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,680
know, how about this? 
How about call, call, you know, 

862
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,800
I'll respond to it, but how 
about you call? 

863
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,080
Get him on the phone. 
All right, I'm going to take 

864
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:45,600
some calls today, call, get on 
the phone and and elaborate and 

865
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,960
explain yourself. 
No, the reason why I get on Jazz

866
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:53,080
Chisholm is because he's in 
space and because half the time 

867
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,640
he acts like a clown. 
That's why. 

868
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:01,360
All right, Anthony Volpe, just 
as I've said many times, was 

869
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,800
likely overdrafted. 
You know, should not have been a

870
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,120
first round pick. 
Probably needed the refinement 

871
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,280
of, you know, playing in the 
SEC. 

872
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,240
He was going to go to Vanderbilt
with with his buddy lighter If 

873
00:43:11,240 --> 00:43:12,640
he didn't get drafted by the 
Yankees. 

874
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,160
And who knows, maybe we'd have a
totally different player. 

875
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,120
Maybe he'd be an outfielder, but
maybe he'd be a left fielder. 

876
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:19,880
I don't know. 
He'd have a totally different 

877
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,360
approach. 
Has first of all, I just met 

878
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,600
Volpe's family. 
I've never met his mom. 

879
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,840
I just met Michael Volpe last 
year. 

880
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,840
This is year 4 for Anthony 
Volpe. 

881
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,840
No, it's it's you couldn't be 
more wrong. 

882
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,040
It's really not a bad. 
I mean, if that's what you take 

883
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,320
away from it, I mean, that's 
your opinion. 

884
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,160
And but that's why I'm 
encouraging to call. 

885
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,520
I'd like to hear a little bit 
more than than just that. 

886
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,040
Like give me some evidence. 
Let's get into it, but pick up 

887
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,760
the phone and call. 
I mean, that's why we have this 

888
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,520
here. 
This is an outlet. 

889
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:53,960
Obviously, I'm going to start 
the show when I'm going to tell 

890
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,960
you what I think. 
And I've got a ton of ton of 

891
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,040
content things lined up. 
But listen, my favorite thing 

892
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,960
with all this stuff has always 
been the back and forth and 

893
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:09,520
anybody, anybody, anybody. 
I don't care if you work, you 

894
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,640
know, if you live in Detroit or 
if you listen to 1050 back in 

895
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,560
the day, or it was with Tiki or 
with I don't care who you listen

896
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:22,040
to when you listen to me, I 
promise you I'll let you talk. 

897
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,800
I'll let you go because that's 
what it's all about. 

898
00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:28,000
But I don't think you're going 
to call. 

899
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,320
I don't think he's going to call
Jay. 

900
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,480
I don't either. 
I don't either you. 

901
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,560
Know, and that's disappointing. 
We've got, I'm not sure if he's 

902
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:37,840
ready yet. 
He might be away. 

903
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,320
Yeah, I think he's away from the
screen. 

904
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,920
But we've got our buddy St. 
who's trying to debate you later

905
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,280
in the show on your 
international football. 

906
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,320
I figured that, yeah, hopefully 
he's not offended. 

907
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,280
Man, I stand by what I said, but
yeah, we'll get my boy St. up in

908
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,120
a little bit. 
I like a big fan out in London 

909
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:52,640
there. 
Yeah. 

910
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,880
I mean, listen, 9 international 
games and we'll give STA chance 

911
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,520
to speak. 
Nine international games is an 

912
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,960
absolute freaking joke. 
I mean, pretty soon the Super 

913
00:44:59,960 --> 00:45:02,080
Bowl is going to be 
international and they just 

914
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,520
don't care about you. 
And Speaking of the some of the 

915
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,520
schedule stuff here, right? 
So we'll do the show tonight. 

916
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,400
As I said myself, Jake and Rich 
Samini, Jets collective going to

917
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,680
be a lot of fun. 
So as soon as The Jets schedule 

918
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,520
drops, we'll dissect it. 
They're opening with Tennessee. 

919
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:17,640
That has already been leaked. 
We know that. 

920
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,640
So you got a little Robert Sala 
Week 1. 

921
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,960
You've got it looks like three 
of the first four games will be 

922
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,320
on the road, which I don't 
really love. 

923
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,200
Week 2 will be home to the Green
Bay Packers, which is cool. 

924
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,000
I'll be at that game. 
I was going to the Giants 

925
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,920
schedule as well. 
Giants schedule seems pretty 

926
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,040
favorable. 
There is a chance for the Giants

927
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,840
to to really get off to a very 
good start. 

928
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,880
Looking at the Saints in Week 6 
and some of these other teams 

929
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,080
that they play. 
Obviously Dallas early, which 

930
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:44,880
you know, you never know. 
It's a good rivalry and stuff 

931
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,280
and Dallas should be able to put
some points up, but I think that

932
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,040
it's going to be a lot of fun 
with the schedule tonight. 

933
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,680
I I'm not sitting there with 
bated breath. 

934
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,480
I mean, if there was like I one 
thing I don't get like I'm I'm 

935
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,680
going to get the news right. 
I'm going to find out who's 

936
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,480
playing where. 
Now tonight's different only 

937
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:01,840
because I'm doing the jet show, 
right. 

938
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,040
But in years past, I'll just 
I'll find the schedule as soon 

939
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,920
as it's out. 
Like if you think that I'm now 

940
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,280
again, tonight will be fun 
because we'll dissect it and 

941
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,120
we'll talk about, you know, is 
it fair or maybe not? 

942
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,600
Is it fair? 
But is is it a is it a are there

943
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,720
early wins? 
Is it a treacherous Rd. 

944
00:46:17,720 --> 00:46:20,400
I mean, what do we think here to
Aaron Glenn like there that'll 

945
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,440
be fun. 
But in all the other years when 

946
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,880
they started doing this on ESPN 
and the NFL Network when they 

947
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,720
release the schedule, like 
whatever, man, wake me up when 

948
00:46:27,720 --> 00:46:29,400
it comes out. 
Like if I'm if you think I'm 

949
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,480
sitting there IA lot of times I 
do the I do the same with the 

950
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,120
NFL draft there like if if the 
if the Yankees now it's a little

951
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,800
different, like Yankees and Mets
in in obviously early in the 

952
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,680
year, but Knicks are playing a 
game and which which they were. 

953
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,880
You got a Knick playoff game. 
You got the NFL draft there. 

954
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,160
I mean, I'm I'm locked into the 
NFL draft. 

955
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,240
I'm pardon me, I'm locked into 
the NBA game. 

956
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,880
And then I'm just going to, you 
know, pop in, open up my phone. 

957
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,080
All right, now I will try to 
time it out. 

958
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,680
All right, Jets are picking 
giants picking. 

959
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,920
I know when they're picking so 
you can navigate that, but 

960
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,280
anytime and this came up with 
Jerry and it's funny, I don't 

961
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,360
know if you caught this. 
So the 8 DPHR and Rothenberg you

962
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,160
see this this morning there, J 
Rod. 

963
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,480
Yes, Sir, someone commented 
about that too. 

964
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:15,560
They said DT because one of them
said I think Dave said he wanted

965
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,760
to come on unleashed. 
Is that what he said? 

966
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,080
Yeah, I think so. 
On it, definitely bring him on 

967
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,200
Unleashed, no question about it.
I'd love to bring him on. 

968
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,360
I don't know him I but I've said
I've been a fan of his work. 

969
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,840
He's a passionate fan. 
I think he's a great Giants fan.

970
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,760
And you know, him and Jerry seem
to have this little squabble 

971
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,080
back and forth. 
And I think it started I maybe 

972
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,240
I'm wrong, but I think I know 
there's a lot of mixed up there 

973
00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:40,280
between those two guys, right? 
But I think it started with 

974
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,400
either Dave wasn't sure if he 
was going to watch like the 

975
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,680
Knicks or the draft. 
And I don't want to misrepresent

976
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,840
the point. 
And, and Jerry was like nothing,

977
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,840
you watch the game and then you 
just kind of figure out who's 

978
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,440
drafted. 
I think that was the origin of 

979
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,960
it. 
I think I'll definitely get Dave

980
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,360
on the show there. 
I have no question about it, is 

981
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,920
that if he said that I don't 
have his number, so I'd have to 

982
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,840
get it from like the Greca or 
Kay or somebody. 

983
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,680
I mean, maybe, maybe I'll be the
peacemaker instead of getting 

984
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,880
dragged into these beeps, you 
know, like I was two months ago.

985
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,560
I will. 
Maybe I'll just, you know, I'll 

986
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,600
be the good guy and I'll make 
sure everybody's happy and 

987
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,600
friendly. 
Everybody's getting along. 

988
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,920
I would, I listen, I would 
genuinely listen to those guys 

989
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,480
in the morning. 
I would flip around. 

990
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,280
You know, I want, yeah, I'd want
to get Jerry's update, which is 

991
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,160
always money. 
Jerry, of course, rat goes 

992
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,320
updates great. 
And then I would listen to those

993
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,360
guys quite a bit. 
I think they do a really, really

994
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,680
good job, so. 
Yeah, I have to. 

995
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,120
I'll watch through the whole 
video. 

996
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,280
But someone commented saying he 
wanted he he mentioned wanted to

997
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,840
come on so. 
All right. 

998
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,280
I mean, we can we can make that 
happen. 

999
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:42,440
Yeah. 
I got never. 

1000
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,920
I don't even know if I've ever 
been in the same room as him. 

1001
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,400
I think the only time that I 
mentioned this the other day I I

1002
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,600
met Rick and it was kind of in 
passing could do though, where 

1003
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,040
we were at a charity golf outing
for our old boss, Tim McCarthy, 

1004
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,480
one of the great guys in our 
business. 

1005
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,640
Timmy ran ESPN Radio for 
basically 20 years and he's the 

1006
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,120
one who hired me. 
So I've got he's a good friend 

1007
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:07,680
and he's a great mind from a 
sales point of view, programming

1008
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,040
one of the best people in our 
business, Timmy McCarthy, love 

1009
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:11,720
him. 
Shout out, talk to Timmy. 

1010
00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:14,840
Great dude, man, wild man too. 
We had, we had some fun nights 

1011
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:19,800
and and his brother passed away 
years ago and he would do a 

1012
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,040
charity golf outing and we would
all go and like Jim Layridge 

1013
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,000
would be there and a bunch of 
Yankees and everybody at the 

1014
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:30,120
station. 
And that's when Allen and DPHR 

1015
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,160
were working together. 
I've known Allen forever. 

1016
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,400
Matter of fact, when Allen, when
I was at 10:50 and Allen was 

1017
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,920
covering the Knicks for Newsday,
I was getting, you know, and I, 

1018
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,120
I joke around like out where's 
my 10%? 

1019
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:43,760
I could use it now. 
I'm the one who put you on the 

1020
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,760
radio for the first time. 
Now he's on MSG. 

1021
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,840
Now he's doing games, now he's 
doing radio. 

1022
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,840
And I just knew he was good and 
and I loved his, his Nick 

1023
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,560
content and we had a great 
rapport. 

1024
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,000
And I'm, I'm pretty tight with 
Allen. 

1025
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,840
I know him really well. 
But I did meet DPH for that day 

1026
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,040
and and he was cool. 
But yeah, we'll get, we'll get 

1027
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,280
we'll get Roth on the show. 
I would love to do that. 

1028
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,240
But anyway, just to finish the 
thought here about the schedule 

1029
00:50:07,240 --> 00:50:11,800
release, I mean, it's not 
appointment TVI think really The

1030
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,000
Jets Collective will be, if 
you're a Jets fan, appointment 

1031
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,720
watch because we're going to 
break it down. 

1032
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,000
Here's what we know so far. 
All right, so let me see. 

1033
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,600
We got about 12 or 13 things, 
and then there's a lot of other 

1034
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,000
stuff that's kind of confirmed 
but not fully confirmed. 

1035
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,160
I'm not going to waste time on 
that. 

1036
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,200
Here's what we absolutely know. 
All right, Week 1. 

1037
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,880
So we know three-week one games.
We got the Niners at the Rams, 

1038
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,720
that's in Australia. 
We got the Cowboys, Giants, 

1039
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:36,680
Sunday Night Football. 
That's going to be awesome. 

1040
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,640
Broncos at the Chiefs, Monday 
Night Football, great rivalry, 

1041
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,480
awesome Week 2 Lions at the 
Bills. 

1042
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,680
And that's when the Bills will 
open their new stadium. 

1043
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,480
I can't wait to see it. 
That's going to be really, 

1044
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,000
really good. 
That's Thursday Night Football. 

1045
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:55,960
Then the Week 3 matchup would be
Ravens at the Ravens, Cowboys in

1046
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,200
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, right? 
And then you've got the Colts in

1047
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,400
the Commanders in London. 
That's Week 5. 

1048
00:51:01,720 --> 00:51:04,040
You get the Eagles, Jags in 
London, now we get the London 

1049
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,280
Games, you get Texans, Jags, and
then Week 7 you got steal their 

1050
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,520
Saints in Paris. 
I mean, whatever. 

1051
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:10,920
I don't. 
I really don't think I'll watch 

1052
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,680
a second of that game. 
I don't care what's going on. 

1053
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,320
Bengals, Falcons in Spain. 
OK. 

1054
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,480
I mean, maybe if Joe Burrow was 
on my fantasy team, sure. 

1055
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,560
What else? 
We got Pat's Lions Week 10 in 

1056
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,440
Munich, Germany. 
That, I mean, that could be a 

1057
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,320
game that you have to watch for 
a lot of reasons. 

1058
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,960
If Rabel's still there, which 
I'm not so sure he will be, and 

1059
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,440
I touched on that about a week 
or so ago. 

1060
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,080
If you guys missed the the 
segment, go check it out on the 

1061
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,960
channel Vikings and Niners 
Mexico City. 

1062
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,120
I mean, Vikings should stink 
depending upon what I'm doing. 

1063
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,280
We'll see if I watch that. 
But I'll tell you what, and I 

1064
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,360
know I've been all over the NFL,
too many international games. 

1065
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,880
They don't care about you. 
It's all about the almighty 

1066
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,400
dollar, which we obviously know.
But what are the limits of the 

1067
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,240
greed and the gluttony here? 
Like at some point, the people 

1068
00:51:56,240 --> 00:52:00,000
who built the sport, us, our 
parents, their parents, you 

1069
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,120
know, I mean, the NFL used to be
a distant, let's see, I would 

1070
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:10,040
say between baseball, between 
boxing, between horse racing. 

1071
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,440
I mean, the NFL, when the NFL 
was, was in its infancy, you 

1072
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,600
know, it was, it was just, I 
mean, it's kind of niche and 

1073
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,760
really what it was. 
So, you know, now I, I just, I 

1074
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,800
feel like I've got to defend the
fans because there's only so 

1075
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,000
many voices that could do it. 
And, you know, a lot of the 

1076
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,560
people that are making good 
money and good for them, they 

1077
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,960
will never take shots at the NFL
because they're, they're 

1078
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,800
basically in bed with the NFL. 
You have people on the NFL 

1079
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,720
Network shitting on 
international games. 

1080
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,640
He'll be off the channel in a 
heartbeat. 

1081
00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:40,640
I mean, that doesn't work that 
way. 

1082
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,360
That's one of the beauties of 
being an independent contractor.

1083
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,600
I say whatever I want. 
J Rod, you know, I wouldn't mind

1084
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,080
that. 
I wouldn't mind that paycheck 

1085
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,480
though there. 
But no, the point is you just 

1086
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,760
don't have enough voices. 
I'm not saying there's none, but

1087
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,760
you don't have enough voices who
are keeping it real with this 

1088
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,320
international slate. 
It's crazy. 

1089
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:57,880
But I will give them credit 
here. 

1090
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,680
The Thanksgiving like wrap 
around is awesome. 

1091
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,760
So Thanksgiving Eve, Packers at 
the Rams, Netflix awesome. 

1092
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,720
I mean, you know, you would 
think big NFC high seed 

1093
00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:14,640
implications, you know, 
quarterbacks who can play, you 

1094
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,960
know, coaches, you know, 
Lafleur's, you know, not not 

1095
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,240
quite McVeigh, but you know, 
higher profile coaches, good fan

1096
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:23,920
bases money right Then 
Thanksgiving and depending upon 

1097
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,160
the year, this would have been a
shit game. 

1098
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,520
But Bears at the lions, it's 
going to be a good one. 

1099
00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:28,960
It's going to be an important 
one. 

1100
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,480
Then you got the Eagles and the 
Cowboys that's obviously in 

1101
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:32,800
Dallas. 
Then you have the chiefs and the

1102
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,520
Bills that's in Buffalo. 
That's going to be really good. 

1103
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,160
And then Black Friday, the 
Broncos and the Steelers, I 

1104
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,240
mean, really, of the five games 
that that one has the potential 

1105
00:53:43,240 --> 00:53:45,240
to be the biggest snoozer 
potentially. 

1106
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,400
Not saying that it's going to be
a completely, you know, useless 

1107
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,400
game, but you know, I don't I 
don't really know what to expect

1108
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,960
from the Steelers this year. 
And I'm not even incredibly, 

1109
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,800
incredibly high, like massively 
high on the Denver Broncos. 

1110
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,920
But they did get that right. 
Like they say. 

1111
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,720
And I do like the Thanksgiving 
Eve game. 

1112
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,400
I have railed on the NFL like 
Christmas Day games. 

1113
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:07,600
I think that there's got to be, 
there's got to be limits, right?

1114
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,920
This is my opinion. 
Some of you disagree with this 

1115
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,760
and I get it. 
Many of you do agree though, cuz

1116
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,680
you get it. 
Cuz you, you have families. 

1117
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,880
I'm just not a fan of 
interrupting the family 

1118
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,120
structure to the extent in which
they do. 

1119
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,400
I mean, it's if you already 
think about, I mean, I'm not 

1120
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,360
trying to get overly 
philosophical or, you know, 

1121
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,320
shove stuff down your throat 
here, but like, if you already 

1122
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:32,880
think about the way life has 
been speed up for so many 

1123
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:36,720
people, you know, I mean, those,
those precious days, Christmas 

1124
00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:40,160
morning, you know, the 
Thanksgiving, but that's 

1125
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:41,400
different. 
We've always been used to that 

1126
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,360
with football, you know, 
Saturday football late in 

1127
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,240
December, you know, dance 
recitals, basketball games, 

1128
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:50,680
youth football games. 
Like, you know, it's it's a 

1129
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,040
tough dance. 
But when, when we and I know 

1130
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,360
this is so long ago and I know 
that the world has changed and 

1131
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,560
I'm not trying to make it about 
me, but it's my only point of 

1132
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,840
reference. 
Like we never had that juggle at

1133
00:55:01,240 --> 00:55:04,480
all at all. 
Now, my sister played sports a 

1134
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,480
little bit much more of a, of an
intellect. 

1135
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,200
Like she, her sport was reading 
and every textbook and homework.

1136
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:15,280
She loved it, right. 
But like, like we never once 

1137
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,480
have because they, they didn't 
have baseball facilities. 

1138
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,360
I wish they did. 
They didn't have baseball 

1139
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,520
facilities for winter training. 
So like my winter schedule would

1140
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,520
be all right. 
We got a CYO game at Saint Pat's

1141
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,120
at 1:00 on Saturday or noon on 
Sunday and that was it. 

1142
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,520
You know, that was literally it.
And then during, you know, 

1143
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,440
baseball season, I did play a 
fair amount of travel baseball. 

1144
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,560
Not to the extent that my son 
plays now. 

1145
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,440
It wasn't like that back then 
schedule wise. 

1146
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:47,080
But like now we are literally 
running around and racing around

1147
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,800
coming home. 
Like last night, we walked in 

1148
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,320
the door at 9:25, you know, 
which means they had to eat 

1149
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,440
before, which means that's a 
little rushed, which means not 

1150
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,880
that you're rushing homework, 
but you know, you got to get it 

1151
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,200
done. 
And then if you don't get it all

1152
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,560
done, you got to finish. 
And then, you know, again, if 

1153
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,160
you have young kids, even though
they're not babies, but you'd 

1154
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,840
think that you would think that 
you're asking them to like try 

1155
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,640
to lift up a car and climb a 
mountain when you tell them to 

1156
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:14,400
go take a shower, you know, but 
it's like they, my daughter 

1157
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:15,960
doesn't do this. 
She's phenomenal with it. 

1158
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,960
But like my son comes in, he 
takes off 1 sock right after a 

1159
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,960
game, takes off off 1 sock, it's
on the couch, takes off the 

1160
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,120
other sock, it's on the floor. 
You know, it's you know, he's 

1161
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,480
got a 3D printer, he's got a 
little business, like a little 

1162
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,000
fidget gadget business. 
So we so it, which is awesome. 

1163
00:56:31,240 --> 00:56:34,160
He goes and he checks on no. 
He's into that stuff. 

1164
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:38,720
Yeah, that's sick, dude. 
I believe my generation had that

1165
00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:41,280
bro dude. 
He makes some great stuff and 

1166
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:42,920
he's made some what he doing. 
For sure. 

1167
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,760
Yeah, dude, my no, no. 
Good, good it. 

1168
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,600
Was it was just a small aside on
the youth and 3D printers? 

1169
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:55,160
No, I mean my roommate's 
girlfriend's brother super into 

1170
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,680
it and we've got like we've got 
a little, I'll grab it and I'll 

1171
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,760
show it next time I'm on Cam. 
A Little Rock octopus, a 

1172
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:08,040
Roctopus. 
So it's an A 3D printed octopus 

1173
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,360
with Dwayne the Rock Johnson's 
face. 

1174
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,320
Are you serious? 
Yeah, wait, I'll, I'll show it 

1175
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:13,800
to you in a SEC. 
It's awesome, man. 

1176
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,160
You could do some wild stuff 
there. 

1177
00:57:15,240 --> 00:57:18,600
He makes, he made a ball marker 
for my father-in-law, who's a 

1178
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,560
great golfer who was here this 
past weekend. 

1179
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,200
He's made again. 
Like I, I guess those fidgets 

1180
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,320
were made for, you know, kids, 
maybe with focus. 

1181
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,240
I'm, I'm not, I'm not really 
sure why fidgets were born. 

1182
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,480
I mean, jeez, but you know, he, 
he doesn't need them and my 

1183
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,720
daughter doesn't, but they make 
them. 

1184
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,680
He makes fidgets like Oreo 
cookies. 

1185
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,560
So he's black, then the white 
and then the black and you click

1186
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,080
them. 
He, he, he really does. 

1187
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:44,720
And he's got the invoices he's 
got. 

1188
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:48,200
I told you the other day there, 
literally there were 300 boxes 

1189
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,480
dropped on my doorstep. 300 
boxes. 

1190
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,400
God Dang, what? 
The fuck is this 300 boxes? 

1191
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:55,520
I'm like, what are we doing 
here? 

1192
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,920
I said. 
And so then I said get rid of 

1193
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,360
these, you got enough. 
Yep. 

1194
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,520
So he wrote a note and he put it
on the door and he told it was 

1195
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,600
either UPS or USP or whoever it 
was, I don't know, you know, 

1196
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,840
please don't deliver anymore. 
Because I guess if you don't 

1197
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,440
tell them to stop delivering 
boxes, they just keep delivering

1198
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,280
them. 
What the Hell's going on here, 

1199
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,640
man? 
Anyway, the point is, yeah, 

1200
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,880
it's, I appreciate the I was 
saying I respect. 

1201
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,520
The entrepreneurial spear, 
right? 

1202
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,160
So do I, so do I and he's got 
the little Venmo deal, but he's 

1203
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,720
got, you know, a couple of his 
buddies, like 1 is the, you 

1204
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,640
know, he's obviously the owner, 
but you know, like, like there's

1205
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,520
different roles like marketing 
and some other. 

1206
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,280
It's, it's good. 
It's great for the mind, it's 

1207
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,720
great for the, for the mind and 
for, you know, critical thought 

1208
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,960
and, and working together and 
all that stuff and 

1209
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,640
responsibility because you got 
to get them done. 

1210
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,240
If you, you know, if you take 
the money, you got to get the, 

1211
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,440
got the, you got to build the 
product, which is something I 

1212
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:44,800
made sure. 
I'm like, dude, you better make 

1213
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,920
sure that these are going out. 
Like you can't have just people 

1214
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,480
pay you 8910 bucks to do this 
and then you don't send it. 

1215
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,720
I was like, my only concern 
early on anyway, there's a long 

1216
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,040
way of getting to this. 
There's just so much stuff going

1217
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:59,400
on and and I really do think 
that the NFL has been a little, 

1218
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:04,440
not a little very cavalier in 
how they, you know, how they 

1219
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,120
just basically force fetus all 
this stuff. 

1220
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,720
But it has been happening more 
and more. 

1221
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:17,200
And like anything in life, once 
you start to get a little used 

1222
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,880
to it, even if you resist it, 
you know, vehemently kicking and

1223
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:25,160
screaming early on, you will 
eventually conform. 

1224
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,880
And then you will eventually 
stop complaining. 

1225
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,320
And then you will eventually 
consume. 

1226
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,880
And then when you consume, you 
will eventually spend, right? 

1227
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,960
Like think about this like I 
remember, you know, like I don't

1228
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:39,280
know why I had such an issue 
with it. 

1229
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:40,400
Probably because I was just 
lazy. 

1230
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,320
But you know, when EZ pass first
came out and I'm not getting EZ 

1231
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,440
pass man. 
I'm just I'm used to it's like 

1232
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,920
long time ago when I obviously 
first started driving. 

1233
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,880
But I'm like, Nah, I'll just you
know, I'll just throw the money 

1234
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,080
in the thing or, or whatever. 
Or you hand them dollars if it's

1235
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:55,640
coins you flip them in or 
dollars. 

1236
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,040
You know, if you don't have the 
exact change you do it make the 

1237
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,040
transaction. 
I waited for that forever. 

1238
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,280
I I just waited forever. 
And then finally I acquiesced. 

1239
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,400
And you know, like I like I 
couldn't imagine my life without

1240
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,560
EZ pass right now. 
Now I wish it wasn't as 

1241
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,160
expensive. 
We're getting bent over with 

1242
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,280
that. 
But you know, when I'm traveling

1243
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,000
to whether it's Staten Island or
Jersey, all these games and I 

1244
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:18,960
see people getting ready to pay.
I'm like, you know, 

1245
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,200
conventionally with the with the
money, I'm like suckers and I'm 

1246
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,400
just driving through you get 
used to it. 

1247
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,600
I mean every when the first 
streaming streaming. 

1248
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,680
Line or whatever came out, you 
know it was like confusing I'm 

1249
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,880
like oh man, I just want to kind
of stick with regular TV and HBO

1250
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,080
and TiVo and then all of a 
sudden I got Netflix, I got 

1251
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:43,120
Hulu, I've got the prime, you 
got everything and yeah, we 

1252
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:44,800
complained a little bit about 
it, right. 

1253
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,160
We complained a little bit about
it, but then it becomes 

1254
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,320
normalized. 
Same thing with the phones. 

1255
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,640
Oh man, my bill is how much a 
month 100, whatever it like a 2,

1256
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:54,960
I don't know an Apple, an iPhone
is 1000 bucks. 

1257
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,240
Wow jeez 1000 bucks for a phone?
What are we doing here? 

1258
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,680
Need a new phone? 
Here's 1000 bucks. 

1259
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:02,480
I know you can do trade 
insurance and all that stuff, 

1260
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,600
which I do, but when you first 
buy it like we are always 

1261
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,960
resistant to stuff early on. 
Same thing with the prices for 

1262
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,280
parking. 100 bucks to go watch 
The Jets and the Browns in the 

1263
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,920
rain, which is what I paid 100 
bucks. 

1264
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:16,760
Guess what? 
I didn't make AU turn and go 

1265
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,840
home. 
I paid the 100 bucks, thank you 

1266
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,200
very much. 
May I have another? 

1267
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,760
And I sat in the rain and I 
watched two dog teams play. 

1268
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,840
Just played well, they had some 
special team touchdowns that 

1269
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,360
day. 
But anyway, it, it's, it's just,

1270
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:33,400
it's my aversion to and it's my 
resistance to just letting these

1271
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,440
leagues do whatever they want to
do. 

1272
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,680
And and I realized that one 
voice is not going to change 

1273
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,760
everything, but by at least 
they're going to try. 

1274
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaking of football right I'm 
I'm trying I really don't know 

1275
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,200
what to think about Malik 
neighbors. 

1276
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:51,720
I got to be very honest with you
about this. 

1277
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:55,560
I don't know you know you saw 
the news yesterday you had a 

1278
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,280
second procedure. 
Malik neighbors all right, so 

1279
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,880
torn ACL obviously happened very
early in this Jackson darts 

1280
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:06,480
first start and then we knew we 
had we had to wait a month 

1281
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,640
because of the swelling and a 
lot of people and this is 

1282
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:09,880
unfair. 
A lot of people like why is he 

1283
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,840
waiting so long? 
Because you can't operate with 

1284
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,000
swelling. 
It's actually very common now it

1285
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,400
does delay the return, but you 
can't get in you can't get in 

1286
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,960
there surgically and probe 
around when they're swelling. 

1287
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,320
That's just basic stuff. 
So he has the torn ACL, then 

1288
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,560
he's got a a full meniscus 
repair, which obviously you 

1289
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,920
know, you're going to, you're 
going to heal, but it, it 

1290
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,640
complicates the recovery attacks
on a little bit more time there.

1291
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:34,840
And then we found out that what 
the surgery was delayed for 

1292
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:38,320
months with the swelling and 
then he had a second surgery a 

1293
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,720
7-8 months later. 
All right, So after the initial 

1294
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:48,000
one month wait for the torn ACL 
and the meniscus repair, there 

1295
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:52,480
was a second and you know, it 
was scar tissue and scar tissue 

1296
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,560
is painful, man. 
And it's funny, I was just 

1297
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,800
talking about Max Fried's, you 
know, and I don't think he's 

1298
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,640
going to be Tommy John. 
You know, I just, I feel pretty 

1299
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,800
good about that based on what he
said and, and, and the optics of

1300
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,040
it. 
But I remember when I, when I 

1301
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:10,520
had my Tommy John surgery about 
two years later, because I was 

1302
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,520
obviously done playing ball. 
Maybe if I was still playing, it

1303
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,200
would have been a year later. 
But like 2 years later, I went 

1304
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:18,720
in and I had a second procedure,
arthroscopic in and out, no big 

1305
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,840
deal on the same elbow because I
had the scar tissue. 

1306
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,120
And the scar tissue, like when 
they're, if you ever, if you 

1307
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:28,200
ever had a surgery and they're 
breaking up the scar tissue, 

1308
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,480
it's actually more painful than,
I mean, well, I mean, you're out

1309
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:32,680
during the surgery, but you know
what I mean? 

1310
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,280
Like breaking up a scar tissue 
is no joke. 

1311
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,160
I mean, it's, you are riding in 
pain. 

1312
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,600
Like you got to, you got to 
strap it and you got to suck it 

1313
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,160
up. 
And you just have to let the, 

1314
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,080
the orthopedic surgeon or, you 
know, usually that's who you go 

1315
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,880
to the orthopedic doctor, do 
what they have to do. 

1316
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,880
And then that's what the second 
procedure was to break up the, 

1317
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:52,440
the scar tissue. 
Because the scar tissue 

1318
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,440
basically just think of just 
like an inflammation that then 

1319
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,560
limits the ability to like move 
back and forth. 

1320
01:03:58,080 --> 01:03:59,600
So full movement and all that 
stuff. 

1321
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:04,520
Now they say that the timeline 
is unaffected and they are 

1322
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:08,520
hopeful for week 1. 
Again, I'm I'm not trying to be 

1323
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,280
irresponsible with this. 
I'm not worried about Malik 

1324
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:15,640
neighbors of like eventually 
regaining all of his burst and 

1325
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,280
all of his cut and all of his 
explosion. 

1326
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:22,400
He's a wonderful athlete, man. 
He's just 1% of the athletes in 

1327
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,960
the world. 
But that was a little 

1328
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,040
disconcerting there. 
I I don't know how anybody could

1329
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:28,520
just say, all right, no big 
deal. 

1330
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:30,960
You know, there, there could be 
in between. 

1331
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:32,960
Like, it doesn't have to be. 
Oh, my God. 

1332
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,040
Malik Neighbors had a second 
surgical procedure. 

1333
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:36,800
Wow, we're screwed. 
What are we going to do? 

1334
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,680
He's not going to be ready. 
He won't be back till October. 

1335
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:41,880
No, I don't think that that's 
going to be the case at all. 

1336
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:43,640
And then the opposite of that 
would be. 

1337
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,200
Yeah, he's fine. 
No big deal. 

1338
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,520
I mean, you know, listen, when 
you are young and they go in 

1339
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:52,080
there and they probe around with
medical instruments, there is 

1340
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:57,480
some downstream residual impact 
to the body that might not pop 

1341
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:01,840
up right away but is going to 
eventually resurface. 

1342
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,520
My right elbow kills me, 
absolutely kills me. 

1343
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:09,600
I mean, to this day I just plow 
through it like an idiot. 

1344
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:11,920
Now I'm an idiot and I'm not a 
real athlete. 

1345
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,240
He is not an idiot and he is a 
real athlete. 

1346
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:18,480
So he's going to be fine. 
But you know, I mean, it's just,

1347
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:22,720
it's, it's a very delicate thing
and the advancement for knee 

1348
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,680
procedures, even like knee 
replacements and hip 

1349
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:29,520
replacements for older people, 
Tommy John surgery has become 

1350
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,200
much more advanced. 
As, as, as you know, as I know, 

1351
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:37,920
back surgery has been really the
last one to really medically 

1352
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,320
take that big, big because it's 
so complex. 

1353
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:43,080
It's so hard to navigate the 
back with, with the nerves and 

1354
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:44,680
the spine. 
It's just a different type of, 

1355
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:49,880
of, of surgery and potential bad
results. 

1356
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:51,760
But even that's gotten much 
better. 

1357
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,560
Like you look at Europe and 
they've, they've come up with 

1358
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:57,560
these, you know, these gel 
cushions when you're in between 

1359
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,720
the vertebrae, you can kind of 
stack them and you can kind of 

1360
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,520
regain some flexibility and take
away the paint, all that stuff. 

1361
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:06,160
So even that has advanced 
tremendously. 

1362
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:10,040
But you know, I, I would say 
pertaining to Malik neighbors 

1363
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:14,280
here on a scale of 1 to 10, I 
mean, honestly, last week I was,

1364
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,200
I was at a one. 
I'm like, he's fine, dude, he's 

1365
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,280
fine. 
I'm not saying I'm going to 

1366
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,280
sound the alarm over the top. 
I'd probably bring that up to a 

1367
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:25,160
three and seal and I'd say it's 
about a three 3 1/2 and and and 

1368
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,720
really just look at it and say, 
all right, all right, I'm going 

1369
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,800
to look at this just a little 
differently because when you 

1370
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:36,560
hear in the middle of May that 
the timeline is, is relatively 

1371
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,880
unaffected. 
All right, that's fairly 

1372
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,080
comforting now. 
But before you know it, it's 

1373
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,240
going to be training camp and 
you don't need him ready on the 

1374
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,840
first day coming out of burst 
and cutting out a dime. 

1375
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,680
He won't be doing that, but you 
you wouldn't like him ready for 

1376
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:50,760
the start of the season. 
And if he's not, it's not the 

1377
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,680
biggest deal in the world 
because the Giants aren't going 

1378
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,480
to win the Super Bowl this year.
And, you know, Dart's a kid and 

1379
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,360
obviously he's a kid neighbors 
and you want to protect their 

1380
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:02,080
bodies. 
But interesting, you know, you 

1381
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,880
know, if if it's an offensive 
lineman, if it's a tight end, 

1382
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:09,280
you know, even if it's a safety,
you know, it's like a linebacker

1383
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,400
who's more of a tackler than a 
guy who's whose game is built on

1384
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,440
burst. 
Less of a concern. 

1385
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:19,360
Torn ACL, full meniscus repair. 
Again, the swelling, not a big 

1386
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:20,640
deal. 
So you wait the one month and 

1387
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:24,120
then second surgery 7-8 months 
later. 

1388
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:29,520
So as I talk about the freed 
possibility there, Jay and I 

1389
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,440
talk about the neighbor's 
situation. 

1390
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,000
What do you feel about the 
neighbor's situation? 

1391
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:41,960
Listen, I'm not as concerned, 
but yeah, I mean, I don't 

1392
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:43,800
listen. 
I don't know too much about the 

1393
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:48,680
neighbors compared to the Freed 
injury, but either of them I 

1394
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,360
don't think are like too much of
A cause for concern for either 

1395
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,600
team all. 
Right, doctor, that is. 

1396
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,200
You know what? 
I'm going to call you out to me.

1397
01:07:58,120 --> 01:07:59,520
What were you doing? 
What were you looking up? 

1398
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:00,880
I said. 
Fella, you were half listening 

1399
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:01,200
there. 
What? 

1400
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,240
Were you? 
Listen, I I caught the freed. 

1401
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,160
I didn't catch the neighbors. 
I got you. 

1402
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:06,600
I got you. 
I got you. 

1403
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,360
That's why I got to be. 
I got to be careful when I ask 

1404
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,000
you stuff because I know you're 
doing a lot of stuff back there.

1405
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,120
It's all good, buddy. 
What happened to Joe B coming on

1406
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:13,360
this week? 
I probably missed it when they 

1407
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:16,399
announced he wouldn't be on. 
When they announced he wouldn't 

1408
01:08:16,399 --> 01:08:17,479
be on. 
What do you mean Charlie? 

1409
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:18,760
He was on last week. 
He was awesome. 

1410
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:20,960
Joe was great. 
He was After that, the numbers 

1411
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,880
were off the charts. 
The viewership was incredible. 

1412
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,240
Joe was was awesome. 
Oh, he went nuts on Stearns. 

1413
01:08:26,359 --> 01:08:28,800
Check it out, Charlie. 
Yeah, check it out, Charlie. 

1414
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,600
He he did keep the politics to a
minimum to make sure we didn't 

1415
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,800
get too much. 
You know, you listen to Joe, you

1416
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,080
know that Joe is on a Saturday 
show. 

1417
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:37,880
Joe's always going to weave in 
some politics. 

1418
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:41,279
That's his right, you know, but 
we we made sure we you know, and

1419
01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:44,279
it was going to gloss over one 
or two things, but not over the 

1420
01:08:44,279 --> 01:08:45,600
top. 
I'm not saying there was none of

1421
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,439
it, but really it was a lot of 
sports up And really the thing 

1422
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,600
that was great about Joe and 
this what's so great about a lot

1423
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,760
of these conversations here is 
that they're just it's not like,

1424
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,279
oh, Joe, what do you think about
David Stern? 

1425
01:08:56,279 --> 01:08:58,960
We then what about the Mets 
chances to be a wild card team? 

1426
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,600
Joe, like when I get these 
people on the show, it's it's a 

1427
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,560
real conversation. 
That's one of the reasons why to

1428
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,200
me, Rothenberg would be 
appealing because I don't know 

1429
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:10,760
anything about his background 
and I know his son was a pretty 

1430
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,000
good high school baseball player
who hit some home runs. 

1431
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,560
I remember him talking about 
that, hearing that on the radio 

1432
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,000
a little bit. 
I'm not sure if he's done yet. 

1433
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,920
I'm not sure if he's playing 
collegiately, but obviously Dave

1434
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,439
is a is a really proud dad. 
I'm very humble about it. 

1435
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,120
But I would hear that come up a 
little bit when when Rick would 

1436
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:26,880
bring it up or, or they would 
talk about it. 

1437
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:31,359
But I, I love the, the freedom 
and, and the, the ability just 

1438
01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:34,640
to bounce from topic to topic. 
And Joe got, Joe got really deep

1439
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,680
about his childhood. 
Like, I didn't know a lot. 

1440
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:40,279
And I know Joe well, like Joe's 
a friend and I, you know, I know

1441
01:09:40,279 --> 01:09:41,279
Terry. 
I love Joe. 

1442
01:09:41,279 --> 01:09:43,880
I've known him for a long time. 
And some of those things I just 

1443
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,279
did not know. 
And then he's getting into acid 

1444
01:09:46,279 --> 01:09:47,760
trips. 
You get, you just got the whole 

1445
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:49,560
Joe B experience. 
It was absolutely phenomenal. 

1446
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:53,960
Dude, it was, I just, I loved 
how free flowing it was and man,

1447
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:57,240
dude, there's the picture of him
like in front of the old school 

1448
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,440
TV with the broom with the 
broom. 

1449
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:03,240
Oh my God, I love it dude. 
Like he's still using the TV 

1450
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:04,880
from like 20. 
Well, you know. 

1451
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,600
What's funny and a lot and his a
lot of people I guess were 

1452
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,120
clowning him on that and I love 
it. 

1453
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,400
Yeah, no, I know me too. 
But I know Samantha, his 

1454
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:17,680
daughter used felt compelled to 
kind of jump in and defend Joe 

1455
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,080
like Joe was getting hit for 
that. 

1456
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:22,040
Like I mean, what what kind of 
person? 

1457
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,920
I don't know, like what would 
compel somebody? 

1458
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,320
It's one thing if you joke 
around like Joe, I mean, you 

1459
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,200
know, how about getting a flat 
screen like, but it seemed like 

1460
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,680
it was pretty mean spirited 
where she felt like she had to 

1461
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,160
jump in and defend her pops a 
little bit, which I I respect, 

1462
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:37,600
you know, but Joe with the broom
and Joe, you know, with, with 

1463
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:39,920
the shirt tucked in. 
That's another thing too. 

1464
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:43,000
One thing about I'm not saying 
Joe's old, but older people, 

1465
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:44,960
right? 
Why do they tuck the shirt in 

1466
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:46,760
like that? 
I've never understood that. 

1467
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,840
Everybody does that. 
My dad does it, my father-in-law

1468
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:51,000
does. 
I I don't. 

1469
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,680
Even when I'm doing TV, true. 
Even when I'm doing TVI have 

1470
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:58,160
always been the guy. 
I don't tuck in until two or 

1471
01:10:58,160 --> 01:10:59,680
three minutes before I go on the
air. 

1472
01:10:59,920 --> 01:11:02,720
Like, you know, when I was doing
SNY for seven years, right? 

1473
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:04,720
We get makeup now. 
I don't even, I think they got 

1474
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:08,600
rid of the makeup artist for 
COVID and then, you know, the 

1475
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,400
business has changed, financial 
reasons, whatever. 

1476
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:15,240
But we had a full makeup artist 
back then and I would just go in

1477
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:18,560
like, you know, and I would have
my my dress pants and I would 

1478
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:21,200
have my shirt, you know, I 
wouldn't even have my tie on 

1479
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:22,480
yet. 
I would have like 2 buttons 

1480
01:11:22,480 --> 01:11:25,440
open, my shirt untucked. 
And I would get makeup. 

1481
01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:27,760
And then like I'd go in the 
green room, I'd shoot the shit. 

1482
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:31,240
And then like, you know, I was, 
I think my show was on at 5:30, 

1483
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,360
I think 5:30 or 6. 
I think it was 532. 

1484
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,080
Six. 
You know, 522. 

1485
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:36,800
All right, let's let let. 
Come on, Pharrell. 

1486
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:37,840
Come on, Moose. 
Come on. 

1487
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:39,880
Whoever's on the show with me. 
Let's go. 

1488
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,880
Then I would tuck in like you 
can't pay me to tuck in. 

1489
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,200
I hate it. 
I feel uncomfortable and but the

1490
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,280
older. 
Generation they are tuckers. 

1491
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:53,680
Maybe it's like the the pant 
along, like the protruding gut, 

1492
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,680
like maybe that's more 
comfortable. 

1493
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:59,600
Like having like your. 
Joe's not built like that really

1494
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:03,040
Joe like, but like, I don't 
know, like maybe that's more 

1495
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:06,240
comfortable to have like the 
pants around like your stomach 

1496
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:08,080
line rather than your waist 
like. 

1497
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,440
You pull the pants up. 
Yeah, well, but you can still do

1498
01:12:10,440 --> 01:12:12,000
that and just have the shirt 
hanging out. 

1499
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,600
Yeah, absolutely. 
You're totally right. 

1500
01:12:15,480 --> 01:12:17,480
I don't know if it's as 
comfortable and Joe has no 

1501
01:12:17,480 --> 01:12:19,280
protrusion. 
Joe was a runner for a long 

1502
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,080
time. 
Joe's in, you know, I'm, I'm not

1503
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,640
saying he's out there lifting 
weights everyday, but Joe's out 

1504
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,000
there playing golf. 
He's in he's in pretty decent 

1505
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,040
shape, you know, but there is 
something about the, you know 

1506
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,840
what it is. 
It's probably more like of a, 

1507
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:38,360
you know, military, just a more 
conforming to societal dress 

1508
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:40,520
codes. 
I mean, even think about the 

1509
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:42,360
industry. 
Like what? 

1510
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:45,760
What I don't know, Are kids 
still suiting up for interviews?

1511
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:47,560
Are they? 
I would hope so. 

1512
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:53,200
Dude, interviews now are 
different man, cuz you, I will 

1513
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:56,320
tell you right now, I've never 
done an in person interview 

1514
01:12:56,320 --> 01:13:01,400
other than for like Guitar 
Center working like a retail job

1515
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,440
for, for my podcasting stuff and
any of this. 

1516
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:06,800
I've never done an in person 
interview. 

1517
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,480
So yeah, you're still kind of 
dressing up nice. 

1518
01:13:09,480 --> 01:13:11,840
But dude, you could have 
freaking your Hanes underwear on

1519
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:13,320
underneath and it doesn't 
matter. 

1520
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:17,400
Yeah, I know it's changed a lot,
even like, you know, do you go 

1521
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,000
to a wedding? 
There's some people like dress 

1522
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,640
sneakers now. 
I've got into that probably well

1523
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:24,400
over 10 years ago. 
That's always been big. 

1524
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:25,960
Like the Jordan. 
I'm not always. 

1525
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,960
That's certainly not always, not
always in my lifetime. 

1526
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:32,200
I feel like the Jordan ones at 
the wedding have been like a 

1527
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:35,320
huge thing. 
Yes, even for, you know, like 

1528
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:39,560
any dude really like the Jordan 
ones, the 11 sometimes people 

1529
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:41,760
aware at the wedding. 
Oh yeah, yeah. 

1530
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,440
I'm pretty, yeah. 
I I've honestly been to some, I 

1531
01:13:44,440 --> 01:13:46,960
don't know if I've been to a 
wedding, but I've been to some 

1532
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:50,320
formal events where like some of
the main people, a part of it 

1533
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,200
were just wearing Jordans and 
stuff like that. 

1534
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:55,080
And they're like, yeah, that's 
what I listen, what I'm doing 

1535
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:56,400
with the Saint John's games, 
with Mink now. 

1536
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,800
Mink is Mink again. 
Mink's old school, right? 

1537
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,680
Mink is tucked in. 
Mink is suited up. 

1538
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,360
Mink's got the little, you know,
little pin on his lapel. 

1539
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,240
Saint John's, you know, you 
know, always the company guy. 

1540
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:08,760
So am I me. 
Hell, I'm wearing Saint John's 

1541
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:09,880
today. 
You know, I love Saint John's, 

1542
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,080
but I mean he is the ultimate 
company guy. 

1543
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:15,880
He's got the tie fully shaved, 
the dress shoes, the dress 

1544
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:19,600
socks, the belt, the suit, all 
this stuff I shot me. 

1545
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:24,040
When I do games I wear jeans, 
nice jeans, brand new Jordans. 

1546
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,520
I got, you know, two pair black 
and, you know, always get 2 

1547
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:28,440
pairs for the season, Black and 
red. 

1548
01:14:28,440 --> 01:14:31,040
Johnny's colors low cuts, right?
Yeah. 

1549
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,480
The BT Classics. 
You know, those the ankle socks,

1550
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,840
I wear ankle socks, right, But 
then and then I'll have on, you 

1551
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,360
know, a really nice shirt and 
you know, the blazer. 

1552
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:45,080
The blazer is my I've got a a 
nice collection of, you know, 

1553
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,360
really good Blazers. 
And then if I want to pop it 

1554
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:51,160
with like, you know, whether 
it's one of those little like 

1555
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:55,160
lapel, like those flower 
flowery, like lapel things which

1556
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:58,200
are pretty popular, which kind 
of accent with the tie or bring 

1557
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,800
out certain colors in the 
blazer, or if I want to go 

1558
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,360
pocket square, probably got 
about 50 of those things. 

1559
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:06,600
But even up until the game, like
I'm doing the pregame, I'm I'm 

1560
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:08,960
my shirt's not even tucked in. 
I just can't tuck in. 

1561
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,280
Like, that's something I'm 
surprised that that would be 

1562
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:15,600
either a good Seinfeld bit or a 
good Curb bit, right? 

1563
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,800
There, there, honestly, there 
could be. 

1564
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,280
I I just have to check it out, 
but not that I've seen. 

1565
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:22,840
That is a good, that is a good 
thought. 

1566
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:27,040
You know, something I've 
realized though, I, I think now 

1567
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:30,240
the sign of like not 
professionalism, but kind of the

1568
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:35,440
sign of like wealth or the flex 
is wearing sweatpants instead of

1569
01:15:35,440 --> 01:15:38,200
a suit. 
Like I think due to wear it like

1570
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:43,160
like the athleisure Lululemon 
sweatpants with like the quarter

1571
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:46,000
zip top. 
Not that I I don't think that's 

1572
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:47,440
fresh in any sort. 
Of. 

1573
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:50,920
Context But I think those are 
the dudes who that's like, 

1574
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:54,160
that's how people kind of flex 
and explain themselves. 

1575
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:58,040
Is is I'm the kind of guy who I 
don't have to show up, dress 

1576
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,480
informally, I can show up 
anywhere, dressing in sweatpants

1577
01:16:01,480 --> 01:16:04,440
and anything, and it won't 
matter because I am who I am. 

1578
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,440
Give you a good example. 
I don't know if he's always 

1579
01:16:06,440 --> 01:16:07,960
wearing sweats. 
And I know it's different now, 

1580
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,240
but like when Cuban bought The 
Mavericks, he was there in, 

1581
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:13,800
like, jeans and a Mavericks 
jersey or AT shirt. 

1582
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:16,600
Yeah. 
Yeah, that's kind of. 

1583
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,600
I guess that's kind of true. 
Hey, have you got into the show 

1584
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:21,200
on Is it Netflix? 
Hold on. 

1585
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,680
I think it is running point. 
Have you gotten into that? 

1586
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:25,160
I don't believe. 
So no, no. 

1587
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,720
About like this fictitious team 
that's supposed to be the Lakers

1588
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:29,880
with Kate Hudson. 
Oh, I'll check that out. 

1589
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,720
Yeah, watch on. 
It's good and it's good because 

1590
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:36,080
and they they released it more 
in the old school way where it's

1591
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,640
not like season after season. 
It like they they had one 

1592
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:40,680
season. 
I think there was 8 episodes and

1593
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:42,640
I really like it's funny. 
It's a it's a light view. 

1594
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,880
It's not like it's deep thought,
but it's well written and it's 

1595
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:48,800
it's comedically, it's on point.
It's good. 

1596
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,240
And I'm a big Hudson fan. 
And then they had I had to wait 

1597
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:53,200
a year for season 2. 
Oh man. 

1598
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,280
And I was actually pumped. 
I'm like, when's it coming out? 

1599
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:56,840
When it it came out, I think 
late. 

1600
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:58,840
No way, Chet. 
Hanks is in this. 

1601
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:00,960
Yes, Oh my. 
Gosh, I need to watch this dude.

1602
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:03,920
Oh my God, I love that dude. 
It's absolutely fun. 

1603
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:09,480
Dude I watched the the the roast
and this is my main take away. 

1604
01:17:09,480 --> 01:17:11,000
Like the roast? 
Kevin. 

1605
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:15,320
Hart Yep, dude, Tom Brady is the
stiffest man and I'm a Pats fan.

1606
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:18,400
He's the stiffest guy on planet 
Earth, dude. 

1607
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:22,800
Like it's like they walk out a 
robot with like human skin on it

1608
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,360
and have it tell some jokes and 
stuff like that. 

1609
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:28,360
Like there's just something 
about him that just like hits me

1610
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:33,120
as like it's so off. 
It's so Kardashian like, like 

1611
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,600
his vibe. 
I mean, not really, dude. 

1612
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,640
I don't, no. 
Just something about Tom Brady 

1613
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:41,480
just hits me as like he's an 
incredibly like stiff and like 

1614
01:17:41,480 --> 01:17:45,320
very calculated guy. 
Like everything he says, like 

1615
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:47,080
you could tell he's thought 
about it. 

1616
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,240
Like there's just nothing off 
the cuff with him. 

1617
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:54,720
It just it's not natural. 
OK, I mean, I I don't get that. 

1618
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,680
I almost feel like the Tom Brady
that we used to get was that 

1619
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,800
way, where I think this is more 
who he is. 

1620
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:05,400
I mean, he is a guy who is, I 
mean, we are, his level of 

1621
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,320
competitiveness is, is 
legendary. 

1622
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:11,440
But you know, dropping the F 
bombs and doing these roasts 

1623
01:18:11,440 --> 01:18:14,760
here and, and just letting 
himself out there. 

1624
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,040
I, I think that that's more him.
I I've seen him on a bunch of 

1625
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,200
podcasts where he's just 
chilling. 

1626
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:21,840
I don't think he's now you want 
to tell him he's had some work 

1627
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:23,440
done. 
I yeah, maybe that's a little 

1628
01:18:23,480 --> 01:18:25,280
different. 
No, I don't know. 

1629
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:27,320
Yeah, I don't. 
Know if it's just that it's just

1630
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:28,760
like something about him, he was
just like. 

1631
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:32,320
Oh really? 
Like he's just. 

1632
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:35,200
Like kind of stiffish, like kind
of robotic. 

1633
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:39,040
Little C3PO for you. 
Speaking of Tom Brady, let me 

1634
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:40,480
get into this first. 
I had this written down. 

1635
01:18:40,480 --> 01:18:42,320
I want to get into it now here. 
I don't know if you guys caught 

1636
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:46,960
this, but the, the thought about
Bill Belichick's been pushing 

1637
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:51,840
this for a while now about 
renaming the Lombardi Trophy, 

1638
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:56,720
the Tom Brady trophy. 
And it's when you first hear it.

1639
01:18:57,760 --> 01:18:59,880
Well, I don't, I don't know how 
you feel when you first hear it.

1640
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:04,120
When I first hear it, I'm like, 
no, like, because to me, that's 

1641
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,560
just another example of trying 
to always change things. 

1642
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:09,240
You know, I don't know why we 
have to change anything. 

1643
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,440
Like, well, I mean, there's 
certain things in the world that

1644
01:19:11,440 --> 01:19:13,040
we have to change, understood, 
right. 

1645
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,440
And, and we have, but I think 
there's been too much 

1646
01:19:16,480 --> 01:19:18,560
unnecessary change with certain 
things. 

1647
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:23,200
And you know, Lombardi, you 
know, if I, if you ask any 

1648
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:25,920
football fan, hey, who's the 
greatest coach of all time? 

1649
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,800
Now, depending upon how old they
are, let me ask you, who do you 

1650
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:30,760
think the greatest coach of all 
time is in the NFL? 

1651
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,000
Who is it? 
And you got to see. 

1652
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:34,640
Belichick. 
I mean, yeah, I'm going 

1653
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:36,040
Belichick. 
You you have to. 

1654
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,040
From my experience, yeah. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1655
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:39,880
No, you should. 
From what I've seen, just for, 

1656
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:41,680
yeah, from what I've seen, I'm 
going Belichick. 

1657
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:45,000
Agreed. 
OK, Now I never saw Lombardi 

1658
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:49,280
obviously at all. 
And to me it's, it's Lombardi 

1659
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,680
and Belichick and it's Belichick
and Lombardi. 

1660
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:54,320
You know, whatever order you 
want to put those guys in, I I 

1661
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,320
don't have an issue with it. 
And then I think after that, you

1662
01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:59,760
know, I've always put Parcells 
up there, like I've always said,

1663
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:04,080
if I've got one team. 
And you know, I've got 1 coach 

1664
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,240
to win and, and like shape 
A-Team. 

1665
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:09,360
Parcells will be my guy. 
He is my all time favorite. 

1666
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,960
He might actually be my all time
favorite coach in any sport. 

1667
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,200
You know, I'm really, I mean, I 
and I love Joe Torre, but you 

1668
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:19,400
know, Joe did not win early at 
all with the Mets and you know, 

1669
01:20:19,480 --> 01:20:22,480
with the Cardinals and didn't 
want a little bit with the 

1670
01:20:22,480 --> 01:20:24,280
Braves. 
But like he won with the Yankees

1671
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:27,240
because he had amazing talent 
and he was able to, you know, 

1672
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:29,440
navigate Steinbrenner and all 
the New York pressure. 

1673
01:20:29,440 --> 01:20:30,680
And you gave him a world of 
credit. 

1674
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:31,920
And I love Joe. 
Like Joe. 

1675
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:34,760
Joe and I, I mean, we're from 
the same area. 

1676
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:38,880
Like literally where I grew up 
and where Joe grew up is 

1677
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,960
probably 7-8 blocks away, 
literally across the park, 

1678
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,080
across Marine Park. 
He was just. 

1679
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,280
He was just on the other side, 
you know, and we played for the 

1680
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:49,800
same youth team growing up. 
He played for the Cadets and I 

1681
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,520
played for the Cadets. 
Anyway, I love Joe, like Joe's 

1682
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:54,880
the best, right? 
But I don't think like Joe's an 

1683
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,600
all time great manager myself. 
He's an all time great Yankee 

1684
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:00,960
based on the results. 
But if I think about like 

1685
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:05,320
tacticians, you know, I'm going 
to throw somebody like Miller 

1686
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:06,800
Huggins. 
I mean, just just based on the 

1687
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:08,280
research, obviously never saw 
him. 

1688
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,760
Tony Larussa. 
I think Sparky Anderson is up 

1689
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:16,440
there. 
I think that let's see here. 

1690
01:21:16,480 --> 01:21:18,200
I mean, those are a couple of 
the names that I've always kind 

1691
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:21,880
of said and and I I just don't 
think Joe Torry's necessarily in

1692
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:25,320
in Earl Weaver, Billy Martin, I 
think was a a better, much 

1693
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:28,720
better tactician than Joe Torry.
Again, no disrespect to Joe 

1694
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:33,720
Torry, but when I think about 
football, I don't know how 

1695
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:37,280
Lombardi could have been better 
than Parcells. 

1696
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:40,480
Now you can tell me all right, 
championships, this that, and 

1697
01:21:40,480 --> 01:21:42,520
obviously in terms of 
championships, Belichick's got 

1698
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:49,200
everybody beat. 
But I also look at Belichick's 

1699
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:53,360
accomplishments and I don't just
go to the end result of the 

1700
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:55,560
championships. 
I look at the whole picture 

1701
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:57,960
where he didn't do much with the
Browns. 

1702
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:02,120
Now he was getting it better 
before he got fired and he was 

1703
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,320
the DC for those great giant 
teams when they won the 

1704
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:08,080
championships with Bill. 
But see, to me, and maybe, maybe

1705
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:11,560
this is the wrong way to look at
it, I I almost give more points 

1706
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:15,840
to somebody who is a proven 
rebooter. 

1707
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:18,000
And Parcells. 
You always say it. 

1708
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:20,080
I do. 
You always say with Pitino, man,

1709
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,560
you know what I say? 
Yeah, It's the adaptability, 

1710
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:23,800
bro. 
There you go. 

1711
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:26,240
I wasn't even going to use the 
word adaptability, but I always 

1712
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:28,880
do lean on that. 
But true, you know, and and like

1713
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:33,160
the messaging, the adaptability,
the the instincts. 

1714
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:36,560
Like I think the toughest thing 
to do is to walk into a room, 

1715
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,360
you know, a football locker 
room, 53 dudes. 

1716
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:43,320
And you know, for a team that's 
been moribund, not, not not 

1717
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,720
disciplined, a lot of penalties,
an offensive line that gives up 

1718
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:50,720
a lot of sacks, a lot of 
turnovers like The Jets, I mean,

1719
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:53,240
basically, you know, maybe 
outside of giving up the sacks 

1720
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:56,200
because the old line is good, 
but take a team like that and to

1721
01:22:56,200 --> 01:23:00,360
walk into that room and to 
immediately, I mean immediately.

1722
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:03,720
And it's all documentable where 
you just what whatever you 

1723
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:06,560
espouse, whatever you teach, 
whatever you demand, whatever 

1724
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,240
you preach like it works 
immediately. 

1725
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:11,400
It worked. 
Now his his first year with the 

1726
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:13,840
Giants, I think he only won 
three games, almost got fired, 

1727
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:15,680
but then bang got fixed right 
away. 

1728
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:20,240
And then obviously, you know, 
he's with the Patriots and 

1729
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:24,440
they're in the Super Bowl and he
won a very this I will use the 

1730
01:23:24,440 --> 01:23:27,320
word adaptability because with 
the Giants, he wanted to run the

1731
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:30,840
ball and he wanted to play great
defense with his linebackers, 

1732
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:32,800
right? 
And that's how they won Lawrence

1733
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:36,920
Taylor, etcetera. 
And then he goes to the Pats and

1734
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:40,200
he's got Drew Bledsoe and he's 
letting Drew Bledsoe, who could 

1735
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:43,560
spin it, spin it, who could 
really throw it. 

1736
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:47,240
He'd let him throw 4550 * A game
like that happened pretty 

1737
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:49,760
frequently. 
And he was adaptable there. 

1738
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:52,040
And then when he came to the end
and the Patriots were down when 

1739
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,200
he went there and then he got 
him to the Super Bowl. 

1740
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:57,520
Then he bounces and then he 
comes to The Jets. 

1741
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:00,120
And before he gets to The Jets, 
they're 3 and 13. 

1742
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:03,000
They're one and 15. 
It's the Co tight circus and the

1743
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:07,080
first year that he's with The 
Jets, they go nine and seven and

1744
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:09,600
the first game that he ever 
coached for the New York Jets, 

1745
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:16,320
they won 40 to 6 at Seattle, 
coming off for one and 15 seats.

1746
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:19,200
I remember because I had season 
tickets at that point, I 

1747
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:24,480
remember sitting in my first 
apartment with my buddy Rob and 

1748
01:24:24,480 --> 01:24:27,120
watching the game and then like 
five guys and we had actually 

1749
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,800
had a grossly fun day. 
Like 5 spits came over cab. 

1750
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:33,160
We had a, we had a pretty good 
day and we didn't know what to 

1751
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:35,680
expect, man. 
Like The Jets were horrendous 

1752
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:41,280
the year before. 
One in 15-1 in 15 and they're up

1753
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:45,680
in Seattle or over in Seattle 
and they win 40 or 43 to 6. 

1754
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,400
I'm like, what? 
Like that transfer? 

1755
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:50,640
And then they went nine and 
seven and that, and then they 

1756
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,160
went 12 and 4 the next year and 
they won the AFC East for the 

1757
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,280
first time ever. 
And then, you know, who knows 

1758
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,600
what would happen in 99 if he 
doesn't get hurt week one 

1759
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,400
against the Pats. 
The point is like the ability to

1760
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:05,960
so quickly implement whatever 
you believe and whatever you're 

1761
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:10,520
non negotiable with right and 
toward and weed out the guys 

1762
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:12,600
immediately that that you know 
you cannot. 

1763
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:15,160
You can identify them a mile 
away. 

1764
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:18,680
Nope, not my kind of guy. 
Nope, not all in. 

1765
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:21,280
Nope. 
Little selfish, little soft, a 

1766
01:25:21,480 --> 01:25:24,960
little dumb in terms of the 
football IQ, a little too 

1767
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:27,120
reckless off the field. 
And unless you're Lawrence 

1768
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:30,080
Taylor or a couple of others, 
we're not going to look the 

1769
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:32,440
other way because your talent 
doesn't, you don't have like, 

1770
01:25:32,440 --> 01:25:33,520
you're just not going to get 
that. 

1771
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:36,040
You don't deserve it because 
you're not Lawrence Taylor. 

1772
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:39,640
You know, I just think he's the 
absolute master at that. 

1773
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:43,360
You know, I didn't see, I didn't
see Belichick do that. 

1774
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:47,640
He didn't do that with Cleveland
and he didn't really even do 

1775
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:50,920
that with the Pats. 
I mean, if you look at I'm going

1776
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:52,720
to pop something up here real 
quick, I want to make sure that 

1777
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:56,200
I'm I don't miss anything. 
If you look at the Patriots, 

1778
01:25:56,200 --> 01:26:02,560
this will take one SEC guys, 
Pat's year by year, year by year

1779
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:06,040
record, all right, and then here
you go. 

1780
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:09,000
And football. 
They want the verification. 

1781
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,680
Come on, man. 
All right, maybe this will be it

1782
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,600
by the season. 
All right, What what year did 

1783
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:18,960
what was his first year there? 
Let's see No, he left The Jets 

1784
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:23,160
in so Al grow was in 2000. 
All right. 

1785
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:29,000
So if you go to 2000, so yeah, I
think his first year was 5 and 

1786
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:34,440
11, right and then eleven wins 
9/14/14 dynasty well off and 

1787
01:26:34,440 --> 01:26:38,200
running right. 
But if you go to like a couple 

1788
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:41,320
of years before that, you know, 
they were eight and eight the 

1789
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:43,280
year before he got there 
competitive. 

1790
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:45,520
The year before that they were 
nine and seven. 

1791
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:47,800
The year before that they were 
ten and six. 

1792
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:50,480
And the year before that, I was 
with Parcells. 

1793
01:26:50,480 --> 01:26:54,600
They were 11:00 and 5:00. 
So what he inherited with the 

1794
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:58,880
Pats was nowhere comparable to 
what Bill inherited with The 

1795
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:01,640
Jets. 
And like this is all about, I'd 

1796
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:03,880
say just tuning in, I started 
the conversation about what 

1797
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:06,640
Belichick saying about he thinks
it should be the Tom Brady 

1798
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:10,120
trophy and and I get it. 
And there is merit to that. 

1799
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:14,880
But if nobody had the 
conversation, you know, about 

1800
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:18,960
turning it into the Joe Montana 
Trophy back then when Joe went 

1801
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:22,160
to four Super Bowls and never 
lost, you know, I don't think we

1802
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:23,680
need to do it now with Tom 
Brady. 

1803
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,880
If you want to make another 
award after him, that's fine. 

1804
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:29,240
But it's got to stay the 
Lombardi Trophy. 

1805
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,960
That's my opinion on that. 
And I'm open, I'm open to the 

1806
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:34,880
conversation. 
I'm not so married to everything

1807
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,200
from back in the day where I'm 
like, Nope, resistant, can't 

1808
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,720
listen to it, not interested. 
I'm interested. 

1809
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,320
I just don't think that that 
one, I want to say it doesn't 

1810
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:44,920
make sense because I think it 
does on certainly on some level.

1811
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,240
I would not do it. 
And there's no way the NFL is 

1812
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:49,520
going to do it. 
Bill Walsh was thought of as the

1813
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:51,480
best coach of his time by his 
peers. 

1814
01:27:51,480 --> 01:27:54,680
Yeah, most dominant team in the 
80s and the 90s era for sure. 

1815
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:57,040
Well, I mean, Dallas is pretty 
good as well with all those 

1816
01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:59,600
championships. 
But yes, Charlie checks in there

1817
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:03,600
what Bill Walsh was thought to 
be and and I would agree with 

1818
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:07,000
this was the most innovative. 
Like you still, when you you 

1819
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:09,400
think about the the West Coast 
offense and there's so many 

1820
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:13,760
variations of it now, like 
that's that's an innovative mind

1821
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,560
that was able to really change 
the NFL. 

1822
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:20,240
Like if you think about and 
that's hard to do, like how many

1823
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:24,400
coaches in any sport, there's a 
lot of great coaches, right? 

1824
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:26,320
Like you can tell me. 
I'm going to take Steve Kerr, 

1825
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:30,160
right. 
All right, Steve Kerr won a ton,

1826
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:33,320
you know, all time dynasty for a
couple years, Warriors, right? 

1827
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:35,280
But did Steve Kerr change the 
NBA? 

1828
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:38,880
No, Steph Curry changed the NBA 
in terms of shooting prowess, 

1829
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:43,120
right? 
Gregg Popovich, Popovich, great 

1830
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:46,280
coach Duncan, you know, all time
one of the top three or four NBA

1831
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:47,880
coach NBA coaches of all time, 
right? 

1832
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:51,600
Did he change the NBA? 
No, he didn't change the NBA. 

1833
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:57,200
But I think if you look at Bill 
Walsh, he changed the NFL. 

1834
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:01,040
I even think that, you know, the
Buffalo Bills, what they were 

1835
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,000
running, even though they didn't
have any championships there. 

1836
01:29:03,440 --> 01:29:06,120
I, I think that, you know, in 
terms of innovation and how they

1837
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:08,120
would spread things out the run 
and shoot offense. 

1838
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,280
I think they changed the outfit 
that you, the oil Oilers a 

1839
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:13,920
little bit. 
I can't really speak to the 

1840
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:16,320
hockey aspect of it. 
Baseball, that's really hard to 

1841
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:19,080
change. 
Maybe you want to look at who 

1842
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:22,000
really leaned on analytics 
first, which is pretty much 

1843
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:23,840
thought to be somebody like Tony
Larussa. 

1844
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:27,840
But I think even that that's a 
stretch to to say and and and by

1845
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:32,120
the way, so did so did Buck 
Showalter very reliant on the 

1846
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:34,800
binder and eventually as an 
extension of that, the numbers. 

1847
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:39,040
But I think, you know, as as I 
think about this out loud, you 

1848
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:44,000
know who who changed sport the 
most at the professional level. 

1849
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,960
I would even say that Walsh 
changed it more than Parcells, 

1850
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:51,520
who to me is the greatest coach 
I ever saw, changed it more than

1851
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:53,480
Lombardi. 
I know that they had that one 

1852
01:29:53,480 --> 01:29:55,000
running play that nobody could 
stop. 

1853
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:57,880
I get it. 
But, you know, no free agency. 

1854
01:29:57,880 --> 01:29:59,200
The league was a little bit 
different. 

1855
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:01,280
Not trying to discredit 
Lombardi, but I think that that 

1856
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:06,440
matters. 
Belichick didn't change the NFL.

1857
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:10,840
Yeah, I I think that he's the 
greatest offensive innovator. 

1858
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:15,960
Pioneer mind that the game's 
ever seen and you know he's 

1859
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:18,680
never been recognized on that 
level so I don't really think 

1860
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:20,560
Tom Brady should be recognized 
on that level but it's 

1861
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:22,240
interesting. 
That's interesting. 

1862
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:24,000
All right, Jay. 
What else do we have here today 

1863
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:26,160
Anything else, buddy? 
What do we got got our friend 

1864
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:31,840
STSTS in the house St. now I've 
heard that STS got some issues 

1865
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:36,000
with me checking in from London 
about my takes on the the 

1866
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:38,840
gluttony of the NFL with all 
these international games. 

1867
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:40,400
What's up man? 
We OK? 

1868
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,200
What's going? 
Yeah, I'm all good, brother. 

1869
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:43,360
How are you? 
I'm good. 

1870
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:44,800
No, I'm making sure you and I 
are OK. 

1871
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:46,240
We OK? 
We're good, right buddy? 

1872
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:49,920
Like, like I said this, I didn't
want to debate you. 

1873
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:53,840
I just wanted to try to convince
you and other people to kind of 

1874
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:56,480
look at it from a different 
lens. 

1875
01:30:56,520 --> 01:31:00,760
And I know, I know that you got 
a move calls, but I'll try my 

1876
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:05,520
best because I listened to the 
snippet, the clip about five 

1877
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:07,680
times just to make sure I heard 
everything clear. 

1878
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:10,040
And you made a lot of valid 
points. 

1879
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:13,360
Just let me put that there. 
I think the best the genesis of 

1880
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:16,840
this conversation between us. 
BT I think I would say this is 

1881
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:18,640
very simple. 
You mentioned earlier in the 

1882
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:20,920
show that the NFL is quite 
niche. 

1883
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:22,760
My friend, that is niche no 
more. 

1884
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:27,360
Apart from you know, ultra 
processed fast food which we all

1885
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:30,920
look, know and love. 
The NFL is the United States 

1886
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:37,000
greatest export and there's a 
reason why the NFL is the most 

1887
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:41,200
money making sports league on 
the planet even though it is not

1888
01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:47,280
globally consumed. 
You, you people ask why it costs

1889
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:51,520
up in excess of seven to 10 
million for a slot on the Super 

1890
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:53,080
Bowl. 
There's your there's your answer

1891
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:53,520
why. 
Yep. 

1892
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:56,720
And I, and I just want to give 
you kind of a bit of insight 

1893
01:31:56,720 --> 01:32:03,320
Like I've, I've, I've basically 
gone to damn near as much as I 

1894
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:05,920
can every NFL game in London. 
I know you love the London 

1895
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:06,560
Games. 
I do. 

1896
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:08,800
I do. 
Props you for that, I do. 

1897
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:10,040
But what? 
But what? 

1898
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:12,200
What? 
What you don't see or what you 

1899
01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:16,120
may see is that you know, the 
the type of people that are 

1900
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:18,040
coming there. 
We're talking about people from 

1901
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:21,720
all over the continent. 
I've I've had plenty of beers 

1902
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:26,240
and conversations with people 
from Hungary, with people from 

1903
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:30,360
Deutschland, with people from 
even Italians are coming over 

1904
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:33,520
here like wanting to consume the
NFL. 

1905
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:38,040
And, you know, the demand is so 
big that, you know, Goodell and 

1906
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:40,480
the powers that be had to rise 
above that. 

1907
01:32:40,480 --> 01:32:43,640
I mean, people travel all over 
the world to see the NFL. 

1908
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:46,400
And the what's what's special 
about it is that you get the 

1909
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:50,400
diehards, that not everyone has 
the disposable income as you had

1910
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:55,160
mentioned in your clip. 
But like, you know, some diehard

1911
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:59,680
Steelers fans are going to flood
Paris this year. 

1912
01:32:59,960 --> 01:33:01,960
And the Marines are? 
Going to love it. 

1913
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:04,440
But you know. 
I I met, I met this older 

1914
01:33:04,440 --> 01:33:07,600
couple. 
It was years ago when, you know,

1915
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:10,640
you mentioned rivalry games, 
when it was The Jets, Dolphins 

1916
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:13,640
at Wembley, and we won. 
I remember they they, they, they

1917
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:16,280
were like, yeah, Fitzpatrick 
went off. 

1918
01:33:16,480 --> 01:33:17,200
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1919
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:19,720
He's great. 
But they were, they were saying 

1920
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:21,120
to me, they're like. 
Oh, you know. 

1921
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:24,400
This was just another excuse for
us to come to London and da da, 

1922
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:26,960
da, da, I was. 
It just brought like smiles to 

1923
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:28,960
my face. 
And they, what's his name? 

1924
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:32,840
Ryan Reinhard was his name from 
where is he from? 

1925
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:36,640
Frankfurt. 
The man just loves NFL and 

1926
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:40,640
that's why it is continued to go
on and go further. 

1927
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:43,040
And you, you know, you mentioned
they are greedy. 

1928
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:46,600
Like listen, we don't even have 
to talk about the money issue we

1929
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:47,440
get. 
That's a given. 

1930
01:33:47,480 --> 01:33:49,520
We all know. 
Yeah, we, we get it just as you 

1931
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:53,400
said my friend, but it's like, 
you know, I, I think about the, 

1932
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:57,960
the people, you know, that 
consume this sport a lot like 

1933
01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:02,320
Sky Sports over here we have 
Dominican Sue is one of our main

1934
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:04,720
broadcasters, Jason Bell over 
here. 

1935
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:07,840
These guys are getting paid to 
talk about the games that they 

1936
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:10,720
televised. 
But diehards like me have NFL 

1937
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:13,320
game Pass, so I got 4 screens on
at the same time. 

1938
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:16,400
And of course, as you know, the 
NFL season never ends so I'm 

1939
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:19,760
always watching G Good morning 
football, so on and so forth. 

1940
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:22,800
I think what's, what's 
interesting about the Australia 

1941
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:26,320
game for me is that there are 
lots of Kiwis, you know, the All

1942
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:30,880
Blacks, the rugby, they are like
the most successful sport team 

1943
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:34,680
in history. 
They absolutely love the NFL. 

1944
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:37,600
And it's just a hop, skip and a 
jump for them to go consume that

1945
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:41,000
in Australia. 
And I, I, I, it warms my heart 

1946
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:45,360
personally because it is 
literally my favorite sport. 

1947
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:48,920
I live, sleep, eat and breathe 
the NFL. 

1948
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:52,000
And to see it being embraced 
while, you know, when I first 

1949
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:55,280
moved to London, everyone's 
like, oh, egg ball, yeah. 

1950
01:34:55,440 --> 01:34:56,400
Yeah, yeah. 
You know. 

1951
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:58,840
Every, everybody, every. 
It shouldn't be called football,

1952
01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:03,160
should be called egg ball. 
But now that everybody is just 

1953
01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:06,120
loving it, I mean, you know, you
go to Texas all the time with 

1954
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:09,440
your father-in-law. 
The the day FA game in Mexico, 

1955
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:12,600
in Mexico makes absolute sense 
because that is cowboy nation. 

1956
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:15,240
No, it is it is. 
They can't get enough of them 

1957
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:16,440
boys. 
So Yep, Yep. 

1958
01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:18,440
Oh, let me just say one thing. 
It's SD all ahead, please. 

1959
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:20,520
Yeah, I talked a lot. 
No, no, it's all good. 

1960
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:22,440
The salient points. 
And I'm with you, obviously the 

1961
01:35:22,440 --> 01:35:25,120
economic growth, all that stuff.
And I wrote this down and you 

1962
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:26,840
said it pretty early. 
So I want, I wanted to be able 

1963
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:29,920
to get back because you said 
that the demand was there. 

1964
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:33,960
Well, when you say that I, the 
response has been there, I would

1965
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:36,360
challenge you and say I don't 
think that the demand was 

1966
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:40,600
necessarily there because that 
means or you and you would be 

1967
01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:45,360
insinuating that people were 
clamoring in Australia or Rio de

1968
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:47,960
Janeiro or Paris. 
We want foot. 

1969
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:51,800
No, I think the NFL just took 
it, brought it there and they 

1970
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:54,600
have been receptive to it. 
But I don't saying that they 

1971
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:56,080
were screaming and begging for 
it. 

1972
01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:58,440
So the demand, I wouldn't use 
the word demand. 

1973
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:02,040
I would it just myself. 
That's just my opinion. 

1974
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:04,240
You know what? 
And that makes sense. 

1975
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:07,880
And actually, there's no way I 
can prove that having heard you.

1976
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:11,880
But don't you believe, because I
know that Game Pass is 

1977
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:14,880
accessible in all of these 
countries in their currency, 

1978
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:18,240
Don't you think there's some 
metrics and analytics at the NFL

1979
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:21,880
had kind of deeped over and say,
right, these IP addresses are 

1980
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:23,640
consuming lots and lots of 
football? 

1981
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:26,320
To an extent, yeah. 
Yeah, to an extent. 

1982
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:27,040
I mean, that's. 
I agree. 

1983
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:28,760
I agree with you. 
I agree with you. 

1984
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:30,200
I just wanted to kind of push 
back. 

1985
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:33,040
On that I got you. 
And I think, I think when I say 

1986
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:36,440
demand, even though it might be 
the wrong word to use, it's only

1987
01:36:36,440 --> 01:36:39,600
based off of what I see when I 
see people from different 

1988
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:44,200
countries literally flocking to 
the NFL just to see games, You 

1989
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:47,720
know, when it wasn't 9 games, 
when it was only three and we 

1990
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:51,200
had all three of them. 
London, when I saw that, it was 

1991
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:53,480
just like, these guys get it, 
man. 

1992
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:57,880
It's like they get it, you know?
And because you know, people not

1993
01:36:57,920 --> 01:37:01,400
not a lot of people are 
consuming baseball, I believe 

1994
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:07,120
say in Greece, but they are the 
NFL baseball over here in the UK

1995
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:09,280
is actually getting is on the 
rise. 

1996
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:10,560
And I know it is. 
And I know. 

1997
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:13,160
And I, and I wish, you know, you
talk about rivalry games. 

1998
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:16,480
Guess who was at London Stadium 
watching the Sox and the 

1999
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:17,600
Yankees? 
Oh, you went to that? 

2000
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:22,280
You know, yeah, and, and and the
Cardinals and the Cubs, yeah, 

2001
01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:24,680
man, those, I wish they would 
bring them back. 

2002
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:25,880
Almost. 
But I and the Mets and the 

2003
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:26,880
Phillies didn't. 
The Mets and the. 

2004
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:28,480
Phillies go out there as well. 
They did. 

2005
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:30,080
Yeah, you're right. 
Yeah, you're right. 

2006
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:34,120
Yeah, absolutely right. 
And I and you know, like the the

2007
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:36,760
other thing is you know this 
guy, you might not know him 

2008
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:38,120
anyway. 
He plays for Wells. 

2009
01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:41,840
He's a winger, Luis Reed Zammit.
He loves the NFL. 

2010
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:45,600
He actually left, quit his 
international career and quit 

2011
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:49,240
his IT and quit his club career 
over in the Rugby Premiership, 

2012
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:51,840
the Gallagher Premiership over 
here to actually go to the 

2013
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:54,760
combine in the. 
NFL, I didn't know that yeah, 

2014
01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:57,680
yeah, he got. 
He got signed, the Chiefs tried 

2015
01:37:57,680 --> 01:38:03,200
to deploy him as AI, think was 
it wide out first, No running 

2016
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:05,040
back first because he's a 
winger. 

2017
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:06,880
So he's really, really slippery 
and fast. 

2018
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:08,840
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Then they used him on special 

2019
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:10,360
teams, but then they cut him in 
the end. 

2020
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:14,840
I mean, obviously you would know
that rugby and NFL football are 

2021
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:18,960
two different sports, but it 
just for for for an absolute 

2022
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:24,200
blazing young kid like this 
Zanet to like just fob off his 

2023
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:28,480
career in rugby to go chase his 
dream of playing in the NFL. 

2024
01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:30,920
That's got to get. 
That's got to say something. 

2025
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:32,000
It does. 
It does. 

2026
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:34,640
But again and NST good call man.
I'll check in. 

2027
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:36,120
Check back in. 
Good call. 

2028
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:38,520
Good things to chew on. 
I like the counterpoints. 

2029
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:41,080
We agree on a lot of the stuff, 
but I'm I'm happy you made the 

2030
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:42,960
call. 
Yeah, it's not about thank you 

2031
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:44,800
for doing that. 
It's not about the viability. 

2032
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:46,480
Those are two very different 
things. 

2033
01:38:46,480 --> 01:38:49,800
When when I talked about this 
the other day, it's me pushing 

2034
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:55,440
back on how American fans are in
my opinion, being penalized, not

2035
01:38:55,440 --> 01:38:59,880
that it's not working overseas 
and the globalization of the 

2036
01:38:59,880 --> 01:39:03,520
game is a waste of time and it's
not good and they're not making 

2037
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:08,160
money And you know in 1520 years
even less that residually don't 

2038
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:11,680
they won't read the rewards of 
you know this early plan that 

2039
01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:13,880
they've hatched to expand the 
game globally. 

2040
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:16,720
All those things are happening. 
I understand that that's very 

2041
01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:21,680
easy basic stuff to comprehend. 
This goes back to, I guess, 

2042
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:24,280
what's the limit, man? 
Like, what's the limit? 

2043
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:29,480
And to me, when you take a game 
away from Lambeau Field or, you 

2044
01:39:29,480 --> 01:39:36,280
know, Cowboy Stadium or Heinz 
Field or Arrowhead or some of 

2045
01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:38,640
these, I mean, listen, you can 
take them from MetLife all you 

2046
01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:41,800
want, but I mean, like some of 
the real good venues and great, 

2047
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:44,960
you know, fabled fan bases in 
the NFL. 

2048
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:47,400
To me now, you do what a 
disservice to the people who 

2049
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:49,640
built the league. 
And that that's all I'm saying. 

2050
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:51,760
And you know, I did this the 
other day, right? 

2051
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:55,080
The growth is it's impressive 
for sure. 

2052
01:39:55,440 --> 01:39:57,720
And the response has been 
impressive for sure. 

2053
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:00,720
But I just wonder what the limit
is because when they when they 

2054
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:03,640
broached the concept, this came 
up in the early 2000s where they

2055
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:06,000
were thinking about this. 
And the first time they did this

2056
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:08,400
was in 2005. 
They had one game and it was 

2057
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:10,680
obviously in London. 
And I'm like, oh, that's, that's

2058
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:13,280
unique, that's cool, that's 
appealing. 6 hours from New 

2059
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:15,080
York. 
All right, logistically makes 

2060
01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:15,800
sense. 
All right. 

2061
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:18,040
I like it. 
Football early on a Sunday, I'll

2062
01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:19,960
take it once in a while. 
Then the next year. 

2063
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:21,720
And I don't know the reason why 
there were none. 

2064
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:25,280
And then, you know, they were 
still very conservative in 2007.

2065
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:31,080
They had won and then for the 
next 5 years, it was 208-0910, 

2066
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:35,040
eleven and 1222222. 
And again, they were just kind 

2067
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:37,800
of sticking their toe in it, you
know, throwing a line out there,

2068
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:41,160
seeing if you get a nibble, 
early stages, early phase of 

2069
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:43,520
rolling this out. 
And then they started to all 

2070
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:44,760
right, hey, listen, this is 
gone. 

2071
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:49,440
Well, let's try another one. 
And then in 2013 and 2014, they 

2072
01:40:49,440 --> 01:40:52,320
had three international games. 
And guess what? 

2073
01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:55,160
And 2015. 
So they had three straight years

2074
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:57,360
where they went from 2:00 to 
3:00. 

2075
01:40:57,720 --> 01:41:00,160
Then what do you know? 
I mean, now it's like, hey, 

2076
01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:03,600
let's push it to four, which is 
what they did in 2014. 

2077
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:05,360
But now we got four games, all 
right? 

2078
01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:08,400
Now it's a little nuts here, in 
my opinion. 

2079
01:41:08,720 --> 01:41:12,840
And then in 2017, they had five.
And now it's like really a 

2080
01:41:12,840 --> 01:41:15,360
little cavalier in my opinion. 
Again, not everybody shares that

2081
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:17,640
opinion, but that's fine. 
And then for whatever reason, 

2082
01:41:17,640 --> 01:41:20,840
they they regressed, they went 
back to three, then COVID hit. 

2083
01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:24,480
Then they had, you know, a soft 
relaunch, if you will, where in 

2084
01:41:24,480 --> 01:41:28,360
2021 they had two international 
games and then right away it 

2085
01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:31,600
went to four. 
And then it's 2023 and 2024 went

2086
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:35,760
to five and then it went to 
seven and now it's up to 9. 

2087
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:40,240
So my question is my only 
contention, my only problem with

2088
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:44,240
this, you know, SD is not the 
economic viability or the growth

2089
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:48,040
of the game, but at what point 
are the American consumers, 

2090
01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:52,000
those who helped really truly 
build the sport, being penalized

2091
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:56,160
to a point where it's unfair? 
And I believe we're crossing 

2092
01:41:56,160 --> 01:42:00,240
that boundary when the Chiefs 
lose the home game or, you know,

2093
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:02,920
you had the Eagles and the 
Packers playing Brazil. 

2094
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:06,080
I mean, come on. 
I mean, and then we're hold on. 

2095
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:07,600
And some of these other games, 
too. 

2096
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:10,320
The problem is that some of 
these other games are going to 

2097
01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:15,120
really, you know, in large part,
you know, determine, you know, 

2098
01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:17,360
divisional supremacy. 
Where the hell is that? 

2099
01:42:17,360 --> 01:42:18,440
I got so many. 
No, I can't find it. 

2100
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:23,200
But from the other day, you 
know, if you want to put like an

2101
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:25,720
obscure match up out there just 
to kind of all right, you give 

2102
01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:28,600
them something. 
Not that the fans of the teams 

2103
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:30,520
that don't matter wouldn't be 
pissed off. 

2104
01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:33,200
They would. 
But you don't have to send them 

2105
01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:38,520
like Chiefs, Chargers or, you 
know, Chargers, Raiders or 

2106
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:43,040
Niners Seattle or Niners, Rams, 
Niners, Rams going out to 

2107
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:46,080
Australia, right? 
Week one, Week 1, they've got to

2108
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:50,480
go to or think about the 
logistical impact flying out and

2109
01:42:50,480 --> 01:42:52,800
the Niners based on their 
schedule and and what they've 

2110
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:55,480
got to do this year. 
Like the mileage count is just, 

2111
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:57,280
I don't think it's healthy on 
the body. 

2112
01:42:57,280 --> 01:43:00,520
I mean, that's not really my 
concern, but it's an aspect of 

2113
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:02,440
it that they don't consider 
because they don't care. 

2114
01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:06,080
That's why there's now 17 games 
and then they'll be 18 and 

2115
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:07,520
before you know what, there will
be 20. 

2116
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:10,640
So this is me just just checking
the NFL little bit. 

2117
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:12,000
You guys don't have to accept 
it. 

2118
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:14,960
You don't have to agree. 
I'm not trying to shove it down 

2119
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:17,000
your throat. 
All I'm merely doing is 

2120
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:19,400
illuminating. 
Understand what's happening to 

2121
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:22,280
you year by year by year by 
year. 

2122
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:25,080
Take a little more, take a 
little more, take a little more,

2123
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:27,920
take a little more. 
And you're going to look up at 

2124
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:31,640
some point and it's really going
to be barely recognizable. 

2125
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:34,320
It's going to be a shell of what
it once was. 

2126
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:36,360
And if you're OK with that, 
that's fine. 

2127
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:39,080
I'm not here to convert you now.
You do what you want. 

2128
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:40,880
I'm just telling you I don't 
like it. 

2129
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:43,760
I really don't. 
I really don't like it. 

2130
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:47,480
You know, if like are we going 
to get to a point now, 

2131
01:43:47,480 --> 01:43:51,400
eventually my Jets will be 
competent and as you know, I 

2132
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:53,320
think they'll be a little bit 
more competitive this year. 

2133
01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:55,520
They better win that first game 
against the Titans. 

2134
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:57,920
If they if you don't beat Robert
Sala and Tennessee, who's not 

2135
01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:00,800
going to be very good this year.
I don't think that's going to be

2136
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:02,120
a rough tone for the season, 
man. 

2137
01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:05,600
But either way, like eventually 
The Jets will be good. 

2138
01:44:06,440 --> 01:44:09,640
I mean, if The Jets were like 
really good now, like they if, 

2139
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:13,640
say, if they were the Bills and 
The Jets were playing the Bills 

2140
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:19,040
or the Pats or another really 
good AFC team, the Ravens, 

2141
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:25,320
somebody like that in Australia 
or in Greece or in Paris, I 

2142
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:28,680
mean, I would be incensed. 
Like this is tame right now. 

2143
01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:32,840
I'm just trying to be the good 
guy protecting you, the American

2144
01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:36,480
football fan, while also seeing 
the global benefits. 

2145
01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:42,240
But if this intimate when this 
intimately impacts me and I know

2146
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:44,520
they played the Dolphins 
overseas and the Falcon, like I 

2147
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:47,320
know they've gone overseas, 
obviously, but they've been so 

2148
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:49,720
bad it hasn't mattered. 
You know, there's going to be a 

2149
01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:52,680
year where The Jets have finally
had their franchise quarterback 

2150
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:55,560
and are messing around and 
winning 1213 games and have a 

2151
01:44:55,560 --> 01:44:59,960
chance to get to the Super Bowl.
And if one of those games is Jit

2152
01:44:59,960 --> 01:45:04,920
Ho, 15 hours away, 6000 miles 
away, whatever it is, and just 

2153
01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:08,160
throwing numbers out, I'm going 
to be pissed because it's going 

2154
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:10,040
to be a competitive 
disadvantage. 

2155
01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:13,040
That's all. 
So I'm just separating the the 

2156
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:16,760
epic, the economic viability, 
which everybody can understand 

2157
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:19,800
because it's pure irrefutable 
mathematical data. 

2158
01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:23,560
And in the other hand, I'm just 
like, yo, understand what 

2159
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:27,440
they're doing. 
Understand 7's going to be 9, 

2160
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:31,600
which it is, 9's going to be 
1111's, going to be 15. 

2161
01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:34,960
And then before you know it, 
there will be expansion and 

2162
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:38,240
there will be multiple non 
American teams. 

2163
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:41,320
And if you're OK with that, 
great, that's fine. 

2164
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:45,720
If you're OK with an 
international Super Bowl, fine. 

2165
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:49,320
You have more limits than me. 
I don't want to see that. 

2166
01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:53,440
And I mean Jay. 
Straight up. 

2167
01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:56,600
Straight up. 
We've got a couple more calls. 

2168
01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:57,960
All right, let's get them up 
real quick. 

2169
01:45:57,960 --> 01:45:59,560
I got a couple things. 
I got to take the kids to the 

2170
01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:02,600
orthodontist today. 
Oh, I see no fun. 

2171
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:09,320
Yeah, let's get the calls, man. 
Yeah, toss it in. 

2172
01:46:09,440 --> 01:46:11,800
And then they just got to. 
Toss it up, Toss it in. 

2173
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:13,520
Let me begin. 
Yep. 

2174
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:15,560
Who do we? 
Got We've got Charlie from Pearl

2175
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:18,680
River, NY. 
Charlie and Pearl River, home of

2176
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:21,040
the the Irish police officer 
right there. 

2177
01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:24,440
Charlie, what's going on, man? 
How you doing, BT Great show. 

2178
01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:29,280
Just wanted to say yeah, I was 
just listening to you talk about

2179
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:32,080
the NFL going overseas and 
whatnot. 

2180
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:34,880
What do you I just wanted to ask
what do you think the the 

2181
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:37,280
ultimate end goal is for the 
NFL? 

2182
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:39,640
Is it to is it to add teams 
overseas? 

2183
01:46:39,640 --> 01:46:43,120
I know like the Jaguars, the 
Jaguar owner wanted to, you 

2184
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:44,240
know, was. 
Shot Khan. 

2185
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:47,640
Yes, I heard, you know, he's 
very interested in going to 

2186
01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:49,160
London. 
Yes, absolutely. 

2187
01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:52,920
And do they plan on doing that? 
And like you said, it's, you 

2188
01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:56,960
know, right now with the way 
travel is and everything, and I 

2189
01:46:56,960 --> 01:46:59,760
mean, that seems to be like a 
big disadvantage some for 

2190
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:01,640
certain teams. 
Well, think about this Charlie 

2191
01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:02,520
and I'll let you finish. 
So. 

2192
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:04,840
So there is a disadvantage. 
What do I think my ultimate for?

2193
01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:06,800
A couple things here. 
What do I think the ultimate 

2194
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:08,760
goal of the NFL? 
I at this point, I think their 

2195
01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:10,600
ultimate goal is to play a game 
on Mars. 

2196
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:15,200
That's what I'm starting to 
think #1 #2 like the travel and 

2197
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:18,440
the logistics, which is a 
competitive disadvantage is one 

2198
01:47:18,440 --> 01:47:21,040
thing for whatever teams have. 
And the Jaguars will be 1. 

2199
01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:24,960
I think that eventually, you 
know, move off American soil. 

2200
01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:27,920
But what about the disadvantage 
in terms of attracting free 

2201
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:31,240
agents? 
Like, think about that now, you 

2202
01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:34,560
might say some people might 
think it's glamorous, like, but 

2203
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:37,880
if, if I was born and raised, 
you know, where I was born and 

2204
01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:40,320
raised and I was in the NFL, 
whether I was playing for The 

2205
01:47:40,320 --> 01:47:43,960
Jets, the Giants or the Chiefs 
or the Raiders or or the Rams, 

2206
01:47:44,480 --> 01:47:46,360
I, I think I'd want to stay in 
the United States. 

2207
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:49,120
I, I don't think that I would, 
you know, there's the kids 

2208
01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:51,960
schools and there's just a lot 
to consider. 

2209
01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:55,160
So I just think they're going to
keep going and keep pushing. 

2210
01:47:55,480 --> 01:47:58,520
I do think that there will be 
teams in, in Europe. 

2211
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:02,160
I do think there will be an 
international venue for a Super 

2212
01:48:02,160 --> 01:48:03,800
Bowl. 
And I think that's just the 

2213
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:05,880
start of it. 
And I think other start of other

2214
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:08,840
teams and other sports will 
start doing it more and we will 

2215
01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:12,440
become ultimately desensitized 
to it where it becomes 

2216
01:48:12,440 --> 01:48:14,800
normalized. 
So that's why I'm in the early 

2217
01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:17,800
stages of pushing back just so 
people know where I stand. 

2218
01:48:17,960 --> 01:48:20,120
But it's going to happen. 
Yeah, 100%. 

2219
01:48:20,120 --> 01:48:22,200
I agree with you. 
And also just another thing too,

2220
01:48:22,200 --> 01:48:24,920
if they they expand to Europe, 
what about if they expand to 

2221
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:28,560
South America or Australia? 
I mean, now you're talking like,

2222
01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:30,760
you know, how, how could they 
possibly even do? 

2223
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:33,320
That I don't, I don't, I don't 
know that I mean to expand to 

2224
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:36,080
Australia. 
It seems to me while I guess 

2225
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:39,720
nothing's impossible with 
advancements in in travel. 

2226
01:48:40,200 --> 01:48:41,920
I mean that seems incredibly far
fetched. 

2227
01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:43,960
But thanks for making the the 
call there, Charlie, but you 

2228
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:46,440
never know who knows what 
they're craft and appreciate it.

2229
01:48:46,440 --> 01:48:48,040
Who's up next there, Jay? 
Fire him up. 

2230
01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:50,040
Buddy got our buddy. 
Benji. 

2231
01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:55,080
Benji, Benji, What up, Benj? 
I think Benji, is your mic 

2232
01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:58,000
muted? 
Sorry about that. 

2233
01:48:58,000 --> 01:48:59,760
Hey BT, what's? 
Up, man. 

2234
01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:02,480
Hey, I'm doing good, man. 
I think I spoke too soon on the 

2235
01:49:02,480 --> 01:49:05,120
Yankee stuff with the Freed 
injury, but hopefully it's minor

2236
01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:06,480
and it's. 
Just I'm not too worried. 

2237
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:08,520
I'm not nothing yet, though 
today I'm not. 

2238
01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:10,600
I'm not worried. 
I'm worried about the offense, 

2239
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:13,480
which is kind of gross to watch 
every day, but I'm not worried 

2240
01:49:13,480 --> 01:49:16,120
about Freed. 
Yeah, even my kids know Jaycee 

2241
01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:18,760
Ascara is kind of terrible. 
But yeah, I'm more worried about

2242
01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:20,960
Wells because he plays more. 
That's true. 

2243
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:24,160
He's been brutal this year. 
Well, he's got three home runs, 

2244
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:28,160
five RBI. 
He's terrible, but terrible on 

2245
01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:32,360
our Knicks. 
So I what an amazing result last

2246
01:49:32,360 --> 01:49:34,880
night. 
Now if the Cavs can seal the 

2247
01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:39,720
deal here and end this series on
Friday, it it opens up so many 

2248
01:49:39,720 --> 01:49:41,960
possibilities for me on a 
schedule level. 

2249
01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:46,600
Like you, I'm a father. 
I've got 2 two boys it free it, 

2250
01:49:46,640 --> 01:49:49,520
it just makes number one. 
I know I'll be there on Sunday, 

2251
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:51,880
which is glorious. 
So there's that's non 

2252
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:55,000
negotiable. 
And then #2 I'm heading out east

2253
01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:59,000
for Memorial Day, as I always 
do, to open up the summer. 

2254
01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:03,000
And the Tuesday to Saturday 
break is glorious because it 

2255
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:05,400
creates no travel issues, no 
delays, and. 

2256
01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:07,280
Well, what do you mean Tuesday 
to Saturday? 

2257
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:08,280
You're not off. 
You're not off. 

2258
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:10,040
Wednesday, Thursday. 
Oh, there are, yes. 

2259
01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:11,400
That's true. 
I mean no. 

2260
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:13,800
You're right. 
That's the in, in, in both 

2261
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:15,040
possibilities here. 
Hold on. 

2262
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:16,480
I do have a screenshot. 
I wanted to. 

2263
01:50:16,480 --> 01:50:18,040
I want to make sure we're 
buttoned up on this. 

2264
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:19,360
Hold on. 
I thought I sent it. 

2265
01:50:19,360 --> 01:50:21,240
I had it somewhere. 
I had it last night. 

2266
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:25,080
I thought I sent it to myself. 
Here we go. 

2267
01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:27,600
Thought I sent it to myself. 
Jared, did I sent it to you? 

2268
01:50:28,440 --> 01:50:30,280
I, I had it. 
How did I send it? 

2269
01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:35,080
Damn. 
Either way of the two scenarios,

2270
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:38,480
because there's still 2 versions
here, there's only one situation

2271
01:50:38,480 --> 01:50:40,480
where there would be and I don't
like 3 days. 

2272
01:50:40,480 --> 01:50:43,920
I know it seems to fit your 
schedule 3 days kind of getting 

2273
01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:45,080
out of the flow a little bit 
there. 

2274
01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:46,840
Give me the two days. 
Everything else is out. 

2275
01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:48,960
It's one day, but then there 
would be the three days. 

2276
01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:50,640
You're right. 
And one of the scenarios, yes, 

2277
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:52,120
it's. 
Perfect when when you're someone

2278
01:50:52,120 --> 01:50:55,320
like myself and it and it's and 
it's a whole journey in itself 

2279
01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:58,520
just to get to watch the games. 
It that stuff is important. 

2280
01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:02,200
But as far as the Cavs go, 
amazing match up for us. 

2281
01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:04,640
I mean, look, we're gonna 
bludgeon whoever is in front of 

2282
01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:07,120
us. 
But with the Cavs, I'm just not.

2283
01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:09,640
They never scare me. 
They scare me a little bit more 

2284
01:51:09,640 --> 01:51:13,240
with Hardin versus Garland. 
But they they do have more 

2285
01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:17,520
obviously offensive players that
are that are that are worth 

2286
01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:20,000
noting than Detroit, right? 
Detroit has nothing. 

2287
01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:23,800
The Cavs have Struce that, you 
know, they have Merrill, they 

2288
01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:25,240
have back. 
Struce from DePaul. 

2289
01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:26,480
I remember watching him against 
St. 

2290
01:51:26,480 --> 01:51:28,920
John's when he was at DePaul and
and obviously with the Heat 

2291
01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:31,200
before this team. 
But I'm like, this guy's an NBA 

2292
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:32,840
player. 
I remember he dropped 40 against

2293
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:33,200
St. 
John's. 

2294
01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:36,720
Like this guy's good. 
He say he saved the Cavs last 

2295
01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:39,120
night and he makes key plays. 
As we know back in his Heat 

2296
01:51:39,120 --> 01:51:43,080
days, he always tortured us. 
So, look, we're rolling, man. 

2297
01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:47,000
It's an amazing matchup. 
The stars are aligning, all the 

2298
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:49,400
the Nick haters are getting 
their their scrapbooks out to 

2299
01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:51,840
make the excuses. 
But whatever it is, we're going 

2300
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:53,240
to take care of business in 
front of us. 

2301
01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:55,760
Now for Game 1. 
You know, my wife is for game 

2302
01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:57,040
one. 
She's got the game ones. 

2303
01:51:57,040 --> 01:52:00,720
She went to one of Atlanta, game
one of of the Philly series, 

2304
01:52:00,760 --> 01:52:02,720
both wins. 
I mean, she comes back for 

2305
01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:04,160
Sunday, assuming they seal the 
deal. 

2306
01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:10,600
Now, Tuesday, game 28P, likely 
an 8 PM 8:09 PM tip off. 

2307
01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:17,360
I am summoning Brandon Tierney 
to join me here for a game two 

2308
01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:18,520
of the Eastern Conference 
Finals. 

2309
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:20,560
Let's get this done. 
Oh my God, Bench. 

2310
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:23,480
Magical journey and let's roll. 
OK, here's what we're going to 

2311
01:52:23,480 --> 01:52:25,000
do When you hang up, get your 
number. 

2312
01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:26,760
First of all, give your phone 
number to J Rod. 

2313
01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:27,400
Number one. 
Gotcha. 

2314
01:52:27,440 --> 01:52:29,800
All right #2. 
Toss it in the private chat. 

2315
01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:31,360
We're getting serious now. 
Yeah. 

2316
01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:32,640
Don't put, don't chat it for the
whole world. 

2317
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:34,560
Otherwise everybody's going to 
be knocking your door down, 

2318
01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:36,600
trample me and they want to go 
with you. 

2319
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:38,240
Tuesday. 
What's the date on that? 

2320
01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:40,160
I know what's coming up next. 
What's the exact date again? 

2321
01:52:40,360 --> 01:52:44,920
It is May 19. 
It's either going to be a 7:00 

2322
01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:47,680
PM or an 8:00 PM tip. 
Based on my experience, I think 

2323
01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:51,680
it'll probably be 8:00 PM. 
Let's see, I'm looking at the 

2324
01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:54,160
schedule. 
All right, practice. 

2325
01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:58,280
This is all just for Tuesday. 
Practice, practice, basketball 

2326
01:52:58,280 --> 01:53:01,160
game for my son. 
I'm not coaching that night, 

2327
01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:04,800
that is. 
This might be happening dude. 

2328
01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:07,120
This the cosmic might be 
happening. 

2329
01:53:07,160 --> 01:53:09,960
Cosmic stars are aligning. 
All the Cavs have to do is win a

2330
01:53:09,960 --> 01:53:13,400
basketball game at home, get to 
the Eastern Conference finals, 

2331
01:53:13,480 --> 01:53:15,920
and we're ready to get to the 
Finals ourselves and make this 

2332
01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:18,040
magical journey continues. 
This is you. 

2333
01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:19,880
You're the best man. 
Make sure you give him your 

2334
01:53:19,880 --> 01:53:21,520
number and. 
Yeah, that number in the. 

2335
01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:23,640
Chat got you. 
Yeah, not, not in the chat. 

2336
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:26,040
Not in the, not in the chat. 
Chat the private chat. 

2337
01:53:26,160 --> 01:53:28,360
You know, private chat real 
quick. 

2338
01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:29,840
Benj. 
And then you and I will hook up 

2339
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:31,080
all fair. 
He'll shoot me a number. 

2340
01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:32,560
I'll shoot you mine. 
What? 

2341
01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:36,560
Just give me an answer. 
Give me a number if if it's the 

2342
01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:38,960
Cavs, Knicks win. 
In how many games in your 

2343
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:42,400
opinion fast go? 
I want to say 4 but I say 54. 

2344
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:47,440
Wow, if it's the Knicks, win in.
I want to say 5, but it's going 

2345
01:53:47,440 --> 01:53:48,560
to be 6. 
All right. 

2346
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:50,840
So you're a little more fearful,
the Pistons, which I kind of 

2347
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:52,360
get. 
They're dirty. 

2348
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:54,200
They're dirty. 
Yeah, that's OK. 

2349
01:53:54,200 --> 01:53:57,240
So we're dirty, too, man. 
Mitch could get in those weeds. 

2350
01:53:57,240 --> 01:53:59,920
We can get a little dirty. 
Josh Hart, McHale Bridges, How's

2351
01:53:59,920 --> 01:54:01,840
that happened back to me? 
How's that feel there? 

2352
01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:03,800
Indeed, we could be a little 
dirty as well. 

2353
01:54:04,040 --> 01:54:06,280
But I hear you. 
They try to be dirty with my guy

2354
01:54:06,280 --> 01:54:08,760
cat and and get them frustrated,
but that's not even going to 

2355
01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:10,440
happen because the Cavs are 
going to close this out on 

2356
01:54:10,440 --> 01:54:11,840
Friday and we're. 
Going to we just got to make 

2357
01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:15,280
sure Cat gets back to not 
picking up all these fouls. 

2358
01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:17,280
He's starting to go back into 
that routine and I'm not going 

2359
01:54:17,280 --> 01:54:19,080
to start bagging on him because 
he's been great. 

2360
01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:22,400
But I would like to see this 
trend end immediately. 

2361
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:24,040
Benji, I'll talk to you probably
later. 

2362
01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:25,120
I'll shoot you a text. 
All right. 

2363
01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:27,400
Thanks BT appreciate it man. 
Thank you, man. 

2364
01:54:27,520 --> 01:54:29,320
How awesome is that J Rod? 
What are you kidding? 

2365
01:54:29,320 --> 01:54:30,960
Me. 
Come on now, get this. 

2366
01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:32,360
Get this guy out of the ECFI 
used. 

2367
01:54:33,080 --> 01:54:35,040
To go to Nick playoff games all 
the time with my dad. 

2368
01:54:35,680 --> 01:54:39,560
Oh man, really? 
Yeah, Dang, yeah, I used to go. 

2369
01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:41,840
We used to go. 
I mean, not just playoff games, 

2370
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:48,280
but I remember he'd always get 
tickets like, oh man, I would 

2371
01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:52,840
say 5-6 games like December, 
January. 

2372
01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:56,040
And I, I like remember seeing up
on the little scoreboard at the 

2373
01:54:56,040 --> 01:54:57,840
Garden. 
Like they would, I mean, it was 

2374
01:54:58,120 --> 01:55:00,200
the older Garden. 
It was just like, you know, it 

2375
01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:02,200
wasn't visually or 
aesthetically, you know, 

2376
01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:04,600
beautiful like it is now, 
although back then it seemed 

2377
01:55:04,600 --> 01:55:06,200
pretty futuristic. 
Either way, it would tell you 

2378
01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:08,960
who's coming into town. 
Like, you know, Nick's warriors.

2379
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:11,080
I'm like, oh, Mullins coming 
into town, you know, his only 

2380
01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:13,960
trip here or Nick's Bulls. 
Oh, Dad, we got to get, we got 

2381
01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:16,600
to go watch Jordan. 
You know, it's funny. 

2382
01:55:16,600 --> 01:55:20,480
I, I used to go a lot and 
sometimes we had amazing seats. 

2383
01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:22,800
We never had horrendous seats, 
but he always got pretty good 

2384
01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:24,000
tickets. 
God bless him, man. 

2385
01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:27,160
And I remember one time, I don't
think I've ever told you the 

2386
01:55:27,160 --> 01:55:28,360
story. 
I'm going to keep it short and 

2387
01:55:28,360 --> 01:55:33,960
then I'm going to bounce. 
So Bill Cartwright, a big gangly

2388
01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:37,480
centre who was actually pretty 
good third overall pick out of 

2389
01:55:37,480 --> 01:55:39,440
San Francisco back in the day 
for the Knicks, right? 

2390
01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:43,080
Either way, and this is not him 
early, this is him right before 

2391
01:55:43,080 --> 01:55:45,800
he was kind of dealt in that 
Oakley trade, Nick fans rolled 

2392
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:48,960
over him and his nickname was 
Medical Bill because he was 

2393
01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:50,200
always hurt. 
Bill Carr. 

2394
01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:52,120
Medical Bill was actually pretty
witty. 

2395
01:55:52,120 --> 01:55:53,840
I remember reading that in the 
papers when I was young. 

2396
01:55:54,160 --> 01:55:57,800
So what I would do is like, and 
you could do this at the Garden 

2397
01:55:57,800 --> 01:56:00,840
back in the day. 
You can't do it now because it's

2398
01:56:00,840 --> 01:56:03,080
just too much security. 
I, I would say I was probably 

2399
01:56:03,080 --> 01:56:04,640
like 10-11. 
I'd say, Dad, I'm going to go 

2400
01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:06,040
watch the layup line. 
I'll be right back. 

2401
01:56:06,040 --> 01:56:07,160
He'd be like, yeah, go ahead, go
ahead. 

2402
01:56:07,160 --> 01:56:08,440
He didn't even worry about 
anything. 

2403
01:56:08,840 --> 01:56:11,800
So I'd run down and I'd get 
pretty close to the court man. 

2404
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:15,760
And I remember like sometimes I 
get the occasional fist bump, 

2405
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:19,400
very rare once or twice. 
And then I I went back to the 

2406
01:56:19,400 --> 01:56:23,280
seat and this one night the fans
were just, I mean, all over him.

2407
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:25,080
Cartwright would have having a 
rough game. 

2408
01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:28,360
I think he picked up fouls, he 
missed a dunk, just a rough 

2409
01:56:28,360 --> 01:56:30,800
night. 
And he really was a nice guy. 

2410
01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:33,560
I kind of felt bad for him. 
Patrick was already there. 

2411
01:56:33,560 --> 01:56:35,640
So he would they were trying to 
do that twin tower experiment 

2412
01:56:35,640 --> 01:56:38,160
with Hubie Brown, which didn't 
work out either way. 

2413
01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:41,000
Then what I would do at halftime
is I would run to the tunnel 

2414
01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:44,240
right, instead of the layup, I'd
run to the tunnel right by the 

2415
01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:48,240
Marty Glickman radio booth. 
And I would like really get high

2416
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:50,960
fives, right? 
And then, you know, sometimes 

2417
01:56:50,960 --> 01:56:53,040
like I'd lean over and I'd get a
little bit too close. 

2418
01:56:53,040 --> 01:56:55,920
And one time the cop was like, 
I, oh, I mean, actually more 

2419
01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:57,200
than once. 
All right, kid, you know, you 

2420
01:56:57,200 --> 01:56:58,960
get a little come on, come on, 
go back to your seat. 

2421
01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:00,680
You have a ticket. 
No, all right, go back. 

2422
01:57:01,120 --> 01:57:03,280
And, and I remember, so I was 
kind of used to the deal. 

2423
01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:05,040
So whenever then of course I'm 
going to respect the officer. 

2424
01:57:05,040 --> 01:57:06,600
I'd wait 10, you know, 10 more 
seconds. 

2425
01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:09,320
But whenever he'd say, all 
right, kid, you got to go, I'd 

2426
01:57:09,320 --> 01:57:10,480
string it out. 
Then I'd leave. 

2427
01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:12,720
And this one time he's like, 
hey, you got to, you know, kid, 

2428
01:57:12,720 --> 01:57:14,840
kid, kid. 
And I'm like, I know I'm going. 

2429
01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:17,400
He goes, no, no, he goes this 
night where they were booing 

2430
01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:19,280
Bill Cartwright. 
This is a true story, hand to 

2431
01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:22,240
Bible. 
He goes, hey, he goes, this is 

2432
01:57:22,240 --> 01:57:25,800
from Bill Cartwright and he 
throws me up Bill Cartwright's 

2433
01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:31,480
white towel that he had on the 
Knick bench, bro, and it had a 

2434
01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:34,360
NYK stamped on it. 
It was an official. 

2435
01:57:34,360 --> 01:57:38,720
Towel for the Knicks and I, I 
don't I don't know how Bill 

2436
01:57:38,720 --> 01:57:40,880
picked me. 
I don't know how that happened 

2437
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:43,520
because, yeah, I was 10 or 11, 
wasn't that loud. 

2438
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:45,720
I wasn't sitting on the court, 
that's for sure. 

2439
01:57:46,080 --> 01:57:47,720
I don't even. 
It was like the mean Joe Green 

2440
01:57:47,720 --> 01:57:50,120
commercial with the Coca-Cola 
with the kid in the in the 

2441
01:57:50,200 --> 01:57:52,920
tunnel, the old one from like 
the late 70s, early 80s. 

2442
01:57:53,320 --> 01:57:55,760
And can I tell you for like 
that, first of all, that entire 

2443
01:57:55,760 --> 01:57:59,280
year, I would come out of a CYO 
game and I would wrap that towel

2444
01:57:59,280 --> 01:57:59,880
around my neck. 
Oh. 

2445
01:58:00,200 --> 01:58:02,600
That's too cool. 
How great of a story is that? 

2446
01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:04,400
That's great. 
True story. 

2447
01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:07,360
Dude the only guy the only guy 
I've met out of game is I have a

2448
01:58:07,400 --> 01:58:10,480
pick from when I'm like 16 with 
scalabrini. 

2449
01:58:11,200 --> 01:58:13,560
That's hilarious. 
Scalabrady Dang. 

2450
01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:16,520
White Jesus Scalabrady. 
Yes. 

2451
01:58:16,720 --> 01:58:17,560
Sir. 
Yes, Sir, man. 

2452
01:58:17,560 --> 01:58:19,440
Jeez. 
What was his what was his other 

2453
01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:20,240
nickname? 
Yeah, White. 

2454
01:58:20,280 --> 01:58:21,800
Mamba. 
He's the white mamba. 

2455
01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:23,240
No, that's what I say. 
White cheese. 

2456
01:58:23,240 --> 01:58:25,240
No, white cheese. 
I knew that didn't sound white. 

2457
01:58:25,440 --> 01:58:26,720
Yes. 
The white mamba. 

2458
01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:30,320
That's right, the white mamba. 
Oh my God, he's funny. 

2459
01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:33,120
He does a show with. 
Frankie Oh no red. 

2460
01:58:33,120 --> 01:58:38,000
The red mamba was Matt Bonner. 
Matt Bonner from Florida. 

2461
01:58:38,160 --> 01:58:40,560
Yeah, I played it you. 
Played for the play for the 

2462
01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:41,680
Spurs. 
All I know is. 

2463
01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:44,080
What I'm saying, but he right in
collegiate he played for Gators,

2464
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:45,720
I played for things, so I'm 
pretty sure he did. 

2465
01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:48,560
He had a brother too, Bonner, 
right, didn't he? 

2466
01:58:48,560 --> 01:58:51,880
What's his name? 
Yeah, I mean, neither of them 

2467
01:58:51,880 --> 01:58:54,320
were, you know, stars of any 
probably. 

2468
01:58:54,320 --> 01:58:57,520
I guess Matt Bonner did like 
that free throw line dunk during

2469
01:58:57,520 --> 01:59:00,200
the dunk contest. 
I don't even remember that, but 

2470
01:59:00,200 --> 01:59:04,280
no, Brent Barry did that back. 
Oh, Brent Barry did that with 

2471
01:59:04,280 --> 01:59:06,120
the Clippers. 
Yes, yes. 

2472
01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:08,280
Yeah, no, not Bonner. 
I don't think Bonner was doing 

2473
01:59:08,280 --> 01:59:10,280
that. 
Bonner's lucky if he's squeaking

2474
01:59:10,280 --> 01:59:12,080
one down. 
I I remember him dunking too 

2475
01:59:12,080 --> 01:59:14,320
much. 
All right, man, let me bounce. 

2476
01:59:14,920 --> 01:59:17,040
Hey, shoot me Benjy's number. 
I think I'm gonna have to. 

2477
01:59:17,120 --> 01:59:20,400
He got me his e-mail, so I'll 
send you that. 

2478
01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:22,520
I don't know if he's sending me 
the phone number, but we'll. 

2479
01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:24,040
I got you. 
Take care of that. 

2480
01:59:24,040 --> 01:59:25,360
I got you. 
Good. 

2481
01:59:25,520 --> 01:59:27,400
Good job today, Jay. 
Rod, appreciate it, buddy. 

2482
01:59:27,400 --> 01:59:30,400
If you guys missed the Aaron 
Boone interview, obviously you 

2483
01:59:30,400 --> 01:59:32,960
know, some of the stuff is, is 
potentially a little dated. 

2484
01:59:32,960 --> 01:59:36,560
I mean, unless, unless healed, 
pardon me, unless Max Freed is 

2485
01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:39,480
really hurt because he talked a 
lot about Weathers and talked a 

2486
01:59:39,480 --> 01:59:42,680
lot about, you know, Warren who 
who's more equipped to move to 

2487
01:59:42,680 --> 01:59:45,600
the pen. 
You know any aversion to maybe 

2488
01:59:45,600 --> 01:59:48,800
having 60% of rotation lefties, 
which is what you would have 

2489
01:59:48,800 --> 01:59:52,400
with Freed, Rodon and Weathers 
if it is Warren to the pen, 

2490
01:59:52,640 --> 01:59:55,920
Talked about Jazz, talked about 
Volpe, talked about Lombard. 

2491
01:59:55,920 --> 01:59:57,040
You got to see this for 
yourself. 

2492
01:59:57,040 --> 02:00:00,720
What he told me about George 
Lombard to me gives me no doubt 

2493
02:00:00,720 --> 02:00:03,920
that Lombard will be in the Yu 
this year. 

2494
02:00:04,160 --> 02:00:06,640
He will be playing for the 
Yankees and I believe he will be

2495
02:00:06,640 --> 02:00:09,600
playing in October. 
So if you missed Boone 

2496
02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:12,320
yesterday, it was great. 
We had a lot of different stuff.

2497
02:00:12,880 --> 02:00:14,720
Go check it out. 
Some of the other stuff I know 

2498
02:00:14,720 --> 02:00:16,440
Joe came up today. 
If you missed the Joe B 

2499
02:00:16,440 --> 02:00:19,400
interview, check that out. 
I got to maybe follow up if 

2500
02:00:19,400 --> 02:00:22,400
there's any interest on their on
the Rothenberg angle, pop him on

2501
02:00:22,400 --> 02:00:24,000
the show, get to know him a 
little bit. 

2502
02:00:24,360 --> 02:00:26,840
Try to squash the. 
Beef with Jerry and and 

2503
02:00:26,840 --> 02:00:29,040
Rothenberg. 
So everybody have a great 

2504
02:00:29,040 --> 02:00:32,840
Thursday. 
I am back tonight at 8:00 with 

2505
02:00:32,840 --> 02:00:34,960
myself and Jake Asmin and Rich 
Simini. 

2506
02:00:34,960 --> 02:00:38,840
The Jets Collective episode #8 
breaking down the entire Jets 

2507
02:00:38,840 --> 02:00:40,680
schedule. 
We know that they'll be in 

2508
02:00:40,680 --> 02:00:43,440
Tennessee week one. 
We know, or at least we strongly

2509
02:00:43,440 --> 02:00:45,920
think they'll be home to the 
Packers Week 2. 

2510
02:00:46,160 --> 02:00:48,520
And then all the other stuff, no
international trips. 

2511
02:00:48,520 --> 02:00:49,800
Thank God for The Jets this 
year. 

2512
02:00:49,800 --> 02:00:52,320
But we'll flush through it. 
So check that out tonight. 

2513
02:00:52,760 --> 02:00:54,480
Have a great day. 
Like it? 

2514
02:00:54,480 --> 02:00:56,520
Subscribe, share it, get the 
word out. 

2515
02:00:56,520 --> 02:00:57,680
I'll check you guys later. 
Bye bye. 

2516
02:01:08,000 --> 02:01:09,640
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2517
02:01:09,640 --> 02:01:10,520
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2518
02:01:10,560 --> 02:01:12,120
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02:01:12,160 --> 02:01:13,080
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02:01:13,120 --> 02:01:14,640
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02:01:14,640 --> 02:01:15,560
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02:01:15,600 --> 02:01:17,160
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02:01:17,160 --> 02:01:17,800
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