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in your local grocery store. Listen, I'm not going to, I'm
not going to front here. It was not a good day for the
Yankees yesterday. I obviously understand that.
I mean, poor Anthony Volpe, he's back.
And I mean, he, he basically looks like the same exact
player. We'll get to him in a minute.
We'll get to the Yankee offense, which has been beyond Dorman and
beyond embarrassing now for a while.
Max Freed, you know, we will we will get some update at some
point today. J Rod is feverishly, you know,
refreshing Twitter and making sure he's on top of this,
whether it's passing, whether it's, you know, Buster, only you
know, all that Joel Sherman, Heyman, everybody who covers the
the Yankees in Major League Baseball.
I'm actually not really worried about this.
I'm really worried about the Yankees offense, which I'll get
to. I'm not worried about Max Freed
for some reason. But I mean, the reason that I'm
not worried is because of the location of the pain.
Now, I'm not saying he's out there in a couple of days and
he's making his next start. Although let yesterday he did
say that he actually would hope to make his next start.
Listen guys, it, it's when you're dealing with the, the
outside part of the elbow, the triceps area, that's almost
never Tommy John. It's just not Tommy John.
You talk about the older collateral ligament that I've
got a nice little 6 inch gash here to prove it is on the
inside. All right.
And when you think about obviously Tommy John and you
think about worst case scenario for a pitcher, you know, the,
the forearm tightness is generally a great precursor to
that. Usually that, you know, is, is
backed up by imaging. And, and that would really have
me alarmed. Like if he said that my forearm
doesn't feel right, then I'd say, you know, I, I almost
expect him to be on the operating table.
That's one. And then obviously, if you
actually just feel acute pain right here, that's something
else. It's on the outside.
Now. I'm not going to play doctor,
even though I just did to a degree, but I think that that's
pretty much common baseball sensibility right there.
You know, I don't know. Is it a, is any floating loose
bone chip like Tarek Schuble had?
I, I honestly don't know he's the way he described it like a
hyperextension or almost like he banged it.
And you know, you, you definitely don't feel that when,
when you're going for Tommy John, when you have that, you
know that basically the kiss of death, at least for 18 months
for a, for a pitcher. That's, that's not the case.
So it is interesting though. I mean, man, oh man, This is why
you really, you try to plan things out.
You have 162 games. You think you have your line up,
you think you have your starting rotation, you think you have
your bullpen. And then, you know, hey, listen,
we're going to have to make some tough choices here.
Is it going to be Weathers or is it going to be, you know, who's
going to the bull, but will Warren?
So I do want to play this. Booty was on the show yesterday
and obviously this is before Max Free took the hill and before
Max Free left with injury. And we were talking about, you
know, who's best equipped to go to the bullpen.
What do you think? And the answer pretty
interesting. Here's Booty Weathers.
I mean, the way he's looked, he obviously looks like somebody
who deserves to be a starter. Same with, same with Will
Warren. Now, this is ultimately a good
thing, but ultimately you're going to have to have a very
tough conversation with one of those two men, unless it might
be somebody else, which I doubt. Are you already in your mind
playing this out? Like, do you have a sense of
those two guys who might right now be more equipped to go to
the bullpen? That's a tough call, man.
I try not to get too far ahead of myself with that because
ultimately we'll sit down if we have to make a decision and make
it. So the good thing, like you said
is you know, in in the case of the guys you mentioned, like
they're throwing great. They're they, they are really
good starting pitchers obviously, and a big part of
what we're doing. So if we have to make a
difficult decision when the time presents itself, which is still
a ways away, we'll make it. By the way, did you see how
piping hot his coffee was that I did?
A couple of comments from it because immediately when he
caught on, I was like, this guy got a smokestack next to him.
He's got a little bonfire. Who is booty lighting up a
blunt, banging back a Marlboro to start the day?
The Hell's going on? All right, so.
Things hot. Pretty interesting timing there.
Yeah, hot coffee's the worst. What I'll do is I, I made a cup
here, obviously, right, because it comes out of the of the
machine that we have in our home and it's pretty hot.
So I'll just drop an ice cube in there and then it'll say if it
goes, I, I don't think it's quite 100°, but if it goes from
say 100 to like 80 with the ice cube, you got to know how to
work this. I mean, boom, boom.
Seems like a a bit of a, a coffee rookie there and he was
wearing his head. That funny thing too.
If you guys missed the interview, it was great.
We had a lot of different stuff. And I appreciate Aaron coming on
obviously before a game late night the night before they
moved the game up. So he was great with the
schedule and, you know, logistically kind of moving some
things around. I first thing I said, I'm like,
dude, why are you wearing your hat like jazz?
You know, you look like a ballplayer, will you?
And we talked about jazz and we talked about a lot of other
stuff. All right, so I get it.
I I do understand the the fear for sure, but I do think a lot
of it is premature And I think I think now that, you know, in in
30 minutes, we can get the complete opposite and I'll look
like a dope. But I think that those fears
will will really go unfounded. You know, they will not be
proven true. I am not worried about any news
today with Max freed. Worst case scenario, Tommy John,
we'll see you in a year and a half.
Like I just don't expect that. And you know, listen, if that is
the case, well, that's a different level of evaluation.
I do think that the Yankees pitching is built to withstand a
lot. You know, I'd rather not see,
you know, Max Freed or one of the top of the rotation guys go,
you don't see anybody go down because their strength is the
surplus of above average pitchers that they have.
And when you have that you, you've got the ability to absorb
some dents and and some issues that are going to invariably pop
up at some point over the course of a six month season.
The biggest issue right now is this pathetic poultry,
disgraceful and disgusting and impotent New York Yankee
offense. I mean it really is the same
damn thing every day. If Ben Rice doesn't crank A2 run
shot, if Aaron Judge doesn't have a big night and a Bellinger
doesn't do something, I mean, the Yankees are running out
essentially 5 automatic outs. And, and I understand, you know,
you hear the term under the hood and I love the numbers and I do
believe there's value there, you know, guys hitting, you know,
2O2177. All right, let's see, is he
hitting into bad luck? What's the barrel rate?
What's the whiff rate? What's the chase rate?
What's the squared up rate? All those different rates that
that do tell you a more clear story as to whether or not
somebody's just been in in a bad luck streak or if they're just
really lost. Like I will at least say this,
even though I'm not a Grisham fan, Norm, I really a Grisham
believer certainly is a lead off hitter.
But if you look at Grisham's advanced analytics and you look
at Jazz Chisholm's, I mean, they are multiple planets apart.
I mean, Grisham has truly been victimized by some bad luck.
But and, and Grisham and and Jazz has just been an absolute
unmitigated disaster. And I'll get back to Jazz in a
little bit here, but the the reason why I don't lean too
heavily on some of these advanced numbers with Grisham,
you know, as as being maybe a foreshadow to to much more
favorable results is because there's just too many years of
evidence where he's been a substandard hitter.
I mean, now he hasn't always played every day.
I get that. And last year he really was
good. Plus 800 OPS, 34 bombs.
I get it. He was good, But that was the
outlier. Like that proved to be the
anomaly here. And you look at these averages
and it's not, it's not April 10th or April 20th or May 1st.
I mean, we're in the middle of May.
We're getting ready for the first Yankees Mets Subway Series
And we'll get to the Mets in a bit with, with Benj with some
juice and, and Soto, Oh my God, I mean, Borois Soto's having a
rough go, but it looks like he avoided disaster with that foul
ball. We're getting ready for the
first Mets Yankees Subway Series.
And you got Grisham hitting $1.75, Jazz hitting two O 3,
McMahon hitting 196, and he's hitting 196 after a three-week
run where he's been pretty good. Volpe's, you know, Volpe's just
back. But until further notice, he's
still a mess. And Austin Wells just appears to
never be the kind of hitter that we either hoped or thought he
would be. So while many of you are are
fixated on Max Freed and and I understand that he's a terrific
pitcher. He's a workhorse.
He's one of the top 10 pitchers in the game, but he's healthy.
And when you pair that with Cam and then you pair that
eventually with the return of Gary Cole, you know, now you've
got a a rotation that's, as I've said many times, has a real
chance to be the best in baseball.
You got to put that on pause for a little bit.
But I, I get as I, as I unpack what's wrong with the Yankees,
to me, it's very apparent that it's really their offense and
it's crazy because they hit it. But I mean, this, this part,
we've seen a lot. They hit a lot of home runs.
And I know that boom. Like there's been a lot of talk
about like the, The Who is it the Rays and maybe the Brewers
and, and what other team, not the Dodgers, the Braves, the
Brewers, I guess it's the Braves, the Brewers and the
Philly up. What am I saying here?
The Rays, the Braves and the Brewers have, you know, among
the most singles in baseball. You know, now there's and and
the Yankees have like the fewest and they've got one of the worst
on base. We're batting average or both
really, with two strikes. Like those are all reflective of
a team that, you know, is going to struggle to push across that
extra insurance run, which they've done this year.
That's why they flushed a couple the gems down the chute last
weekend in Milwaukee the other day with Weathers when he went
basically threw a no hitter. And then, you know, Judge gets a
double belly, you know, round her to the right side, moves
over to 3rd. And what does Jazz do?
Swing it for the moon, Empty it bat Yankees leave what would
have been a very precious run on third base.
So these are things that have played the Yankees for a while.
Like if you look at and then every team and every season
obviously hasn't been the same, but really since 2009, one of
the common themes here is that the Yankees have been far too
reliant on on certainly one guy Judge, sometimes 2.
And there's just been way too many dead spots in their lineup.
And, and like, it's one thing if you have guys that have like low
averages, which, which obviously is not ideal, but they're decent
on base guys, you know, and, and I know that Wells has cranked
out some walks and, you know, but you look at these other
dudes, it's just, it's, it's absolutely ridiculous.
You know, I mean, I got, I got to be real here.
I I really do think that the Yankees will be fine this year
unless we get awful news on Freed, which I'm not expecting,
but they're going to have to make trades or they're going to
have to get the young buck up here in Lombard.
Now this made some news yesterday.
I want to play this ass boon about Lombard.
Obviously, you know, he can come up today and play some defense.
What about the offense? Is there a chance we see
Lombard, which would change a lot for this line up here in
2026? Here he is.
So somebody like Lombard, you could call them up today and he
can put them in 3rd. He'd be great.
Short grade, 2nd grade, probably throw them in left field.
Does he have a chance to be on the team at some point this
year? Walking a ton, he's hitting the
ball really hard. He's hitting some tough luck.
He can really defend. So absolutely, I think he could
be a factor for us this year. You know, we don't race him up
necessarily too quick because he's just getting to AAA and
he's 21 years old and he's not far away, I'll tell you that.
OK, so you look at the Yankees infield right now around the
around the horn, first, second, short, third.
Obviously Rice is going to play the lion's share of first base.
You get a little Goldie as well. Rice is the man.
You got Jazz at 2nd for now. Right now you got Volbeat short
and you got McMahon at third base.
I actually think that there is a real chance that of the that 75%
of the current Yankee infield is different in the playoffs.
Rice will remain at first. I think there's a chance either
they trade jazz or start platooning him.
And I asked Aaron about that straight up about, hey, I mean,
if this keeps going on with Jazz, would he possibly be a
platoon, a candidate here? And he didn't say no.
He talked about meritocracy, danced around it a little bit
because he doesn't want to, you know, railroad this guy Jazz.
But if you really listen to the response, you guys can find it
on the YouTube channel. I think you got the answer that
you were looking for. So I think that that is
certainly a real possibility. Yeah.
I mean, do I think Volpe's playing shortstop of the
postseason? Probably not.
And then obviously Lombard, if and when he's called up, could
impact third base, could impact shortstop, could impact second.
You know, I I don't really know, but here's what I do know,
right? And I really feel badly for
Anthony Volpe and it's one game and I don't want to go nuts
here. That was an easy ground ball.
Like the way he even the way he caught it.
You know, I don't want to get too, too coachy here on you, but
you know, that's it. It's almost like he he he looked
like a a young short stuff, a young kid playing shortstop
who's not really a shortstop and he's just trying to kind of box
the ball up and keep it in front of him.
And we started to see that last year when he went backwards
defensively. We saw a lot of time he was
going down to one knee. I mean, forget about the throws
that are kind of, you know, losing steam as they go across
the diamond that that's pretty obvious.
He doesn't have a really good arm at all.
And the numbers back that up. But it it was almost like he was
fielding grounders, like an outfielder going down on one
knee, trying to keep the ball in front of them on a hard hit, you
know, 2 hop rocket to the outfield.
So I do, I feel terribly for him.
You know, he's wearing it, you know, and then here he just
comes back and think about the circumstances, right?
So Caballero's bowling. And the last thing that
Caballero says when he's leaving the clubhouse is I'm back in
nine days, you know, not that he's rooting against Volpe, but
that in his mind, that is his job.
That is his position. And Volpe knows that.
He knows that the grip on the positions already gone because
Caballero has been terrific. So, you know, you got a dog in
Caballero just itching again, who didn't even want to go on
the IL, who fought and kicked and screamed and protested.
And that's what Boone told me, and he told you guys as well.
So he's coming back and he's going to play shortstop, right?
Do I envision the the Yankees moving Volpe to second base at
some point this year? I don't know.
I mean, you're trying to get the kid in in the right spot
mentally in the batter's box. Now you're going to have him
learn a new position. I mean, that's that's a little
risky, although I wouldn't be averse to it.
I'm not sure if they will, if they will be.
And then, you know, obviously Lombard can play second, short
or third. So, and we've seen that in the
minors and in spring training. See the problem with Anthony
Volpe right And this was really my biggest concern now if you go
to my ex account and you go probably four or five, I was
actually tweeting quite a bit yesterday.
If you go down like four or five tweets, you'll see a video that
somebody had a Volpe strikeout and then you know, I sub tweeted
it and I and I weighed in right and it's about a 15 or a 16.
I can't play it now because of trademarks and all that other
stuff whatever. So I'll just describe it and you
don't even have to see it to know item number one, why Volpe
is just never going to be a consistent hitter until this is
addressed right. So it's a 15 or 16 second video,
2 seconds in, you see his front foot.
As you know, again, I'm not trying to get coachy, but as you
load and as you launch, think about this, right?
And it's hard to do for a young hitter.
But I mean, he was a first round pick and he he's been in the
bigs for a couple of years. This should be figured out and
this, this what I, I try to teach my son and you know what I
try to teach the kids I coach take a rubber band, right?
You if you take a rubber band and you pull it back like this
much and then you kind of fire it across the room, it's only
going to go so far. If you take the same rubber band
and you maximize the the stretch and then you release it, it's
physics. OK, So when you when you load
and when you launch with your front foot, obviously you want
to stay back, but and you want to get your front foot on the
ground. All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna,
I'm gonna stop with the hitting coach stuff there.
But that's basic stuff. You got to load, you got to
launch, you got to stretch and you got to be ready to just
unlike unleash that that rubber band.
And that's where the contact, the hard contact, the exit
velocity, those are the great hitters.
It almost doesn't matter what you do.
You know, you can stand like this eucalyptus.
It doesn't matter, Mattingly, you know, Carew, as long as you
get to there, you're going to hit and you can recognize
pitches, right? And then as soon as he starts
his load and his launch and gets his front foot down, his front
foot, you have to see this on my account.
His front foot starts to go toward the third baseline, third
base dugout right away. And if you are a Major League
pitcher and you see that, all you do is feed sliders away,
change UPS away, elevate once in a while, OK, just a little show
me fastball upstairs, out of the zone, something that you can't
get on top of it. I mean, when that ball is coming
in and it's letter high, it's like, oh, I got this.
But then when you actually try to get on top of it, it's really
hard to do, not only for Volpee, for anybody, right?
So to me, there is so much wrong with his swing and the reason
why and I'm rooting for him and I love him.
I really love him. I think he's a great kid.
I've become pretty good friends with his dad.
I actually texted his dad the other day.
I said welcome back and all that stuff.
He got right back to me. I met his pops once.
Great guy, great guy used to listen on the fan came to the
came to our show at the Javits Center and I was waiting around
after me and Sal we're done and or during one of the breaks and
one of one of our producers said, hey, you know, Mr. Volpe
wants to introduce himself. So I went over and I said hi to
him and and we really struck up a nice friendship and you know,
you could just he's a doctor. He's he's a great, great family.
Anthony's a terrific young man, well mannered, respectful of
great athlete in terms of speed and all that stuff.
But his swing is absolutely broken and busted.
And the problem with the surgery and the rehabilitation this
offseason, see, when you've got a, when you've got a hole in
your game, the offseason is when you fix it.
Yeah, you can try to tweak during the season, but if
there's a mechanical, whether it's shooting like Mitchell
Robinson with free throws, whatever it might be, when there
is a mechanical overhaul, it's got to be where there's a lot of
downtime and there's dead time. Because if you're trying to
figure things out and implement, I don't mean little slight
tweaks. Those guys are always messing
around with little things. I'm talking about a radical
overhaul to to how you swing the bat.
And if you're trying to do that in May or June against these
dudes at this level, it's good luck.
It's just not going to work. And.
And and if it does work, it's not going to be consistently
there for you. It's just not all right.
So the problem with Volpe and why I just, I just, I just don't
think he's ever going to hit with any sort of consistency is
because the period that he could have used to get better, it's
not his fault he got hurt. But what should have been a
dedicated 3 month window to finally address what's wrong
with his swing, the hole in his swing, which for some reason the
Yankee coaches didn't find. Can somebody explain?
You got to take a little sidestep here.
Can somebody explain to me right who a guy me me and this I'm
like I'm talking about me, the guy who played mid major, not
even not SEC, not big 10, not back in the PAC 12, mid major
Division One baseball and struck out a lot more than I wanted to.
How can I watch a 16 second clip and within the 1st 2 seconds
tell everybody what's wrong with his swing?
And here we are year 4 drafted right, right around COVID.
It's 2026 and the Yankee organization has not fixed his
swing. How is that possible?
I don't understand it it now it's again, it's one thing if
you just don't have like the requisite bat speed or you just
can't recognize pitches. Maybe.
And I have said about Anthony and I believe this he was
overdrafted. You know, to me, Anthony Volpe
as a first round pick with the expectations, not to mention
being a jersey kid, Yankee fan pressure like that's all stuff
that just makes his life more difficult.
It's it's tough for the kid right.
But when you swing that way, you you're just not going to be a
reliable, consistent night to night hitter.
And this is not year one. He's not in high rookie ball
where they're like, all right, we knew we can run.
We knew we could pick it. He's got a little pop, he's got
a little juice. We got to just tweak this.
We love the kids make up. He's a he's a great, great from
a great family. We know with our coaching that
we're going to unlock just that little 10/12/15 percent.
He's got to fix and he's going to be an All Star.
It is 2026. This is Year 4 for Anthony
Volpe, Year 4, and he's got the same exact swing.
The only thing that changes once in a while is, you know, they
like the arc on his swing. Sometimes it's a little flatter,
which is good. Sometimes he's, you know, he's
chasing, you know, he's chasing power and he's swinging from his
heels like it's just a broken swing.
And you know, when, when you are that vulnerable, I mean, man,
you step into a Major League batter's box and nowadays and
you're facing everybody's throwing 97, everybody's
throwing 98. Everybody's RPMS are just the
revolution. They're dropping off tables,
whether it's vertical, whether it's horizontal.
I mean, what home plate? I think what 17 inches in, in
terms of width, there are pitchers in baseball who
actually have 1819 inches horizontal brake.
Think about that. Their brake is bigger than home
plate. So when, when Volpe steps in and
they, they know he's going to, it's, it's kind of just stepping
in the bucket. It's like, you know, when you,
when you're coaching T-ball, hey, don't step in the bucket,
buddy. Come on now.
Let's get that front foot to the pitcher.
I, it, it is really one of the more confounding things, and
there's a lot of confounding things recently about, more than
recently about the Yankees. To me, that really might be #1
it is their organizational hitting approach.
I mean, it really is all right. Judge is, is obviously
different. Bellinger, who is their third
best hitter behind Rice. Rice and Judge.
Bellinger came from a different organization.
Ben Rice is is just a yeah, I think Ben Rice, the kind of kid
came out of the womb. He was mashing everybody else.
Like they they've got the same broken fundamentals like
Dominguez couldn't figure it out for the right side.
Spencer Jones strikes out 35% in the minors and they'll do the
same in the majors. You know, Anthony Volpe can't
hit, you know, I mean, all the, you know, all the Oswaldo
Cabrera and now suddenly he's pretty like all these other guys
that find success peraza, that find success elsewhere are are
are almost better when they leave it.
It really is amazing. So it is a massive problem at
shortstop. I don't expect much of an uptick
here because he has not been able to work on his biggest
issue. And it is a colossal 1 that just
even slightly above average major.
You don't have to be an elite pitcher, slightly above average
Major League pitching. You will exploit that because
it's so easy to exploit. He's giving away half the plate,
he's giving away half of the zone and that is like taking
candy from a baby. You're on the mound.
You're like, all right, man, let me just buzz 1 upstairs,
probably foul it back and then I'm just going boom, soft, soft,
maybe a show me fastball inside back them off an inch doop.
Let me drop the slider outside, bring them up.
He's either going to take it. He's either going to roll it
over to shortstop or he's going to, you know, just whiff and and
miss by be out in front of it. I I just, it really, really is
frustrating and it's really a shame because that is one thing
that the Yankees have proven to be very bad at.
That's just got to be said. I don't know what they're doing.
The moment that these young men are drafted and they go to
rookie or hi a or as as they progress through the system,
there's just no what what I whatever their organizational
offensive philosophy is, it stinks.
It stinks. It really just stinks.
So by the time they get to the show, it's it's almost too late
in in a in a lot of circumstances.
You know, I'll tell you what I think is going to happen with
Volpe in a minute, but I want to read this here.
It's the maid K star in the but usually it's the June swoon.
So it's starting early for the Yankees here.
All right, so we're getting the get the jokes out of the shoot.
Richie Squires 986 with a special guest appearance by
Anthony Volpe. I mean, listen, yeah, it really,
it couldn't start off worse. Routine Grounder bobbles it
strike out, you know, so and then listen, here's what I think
is going to happen to Volpe. I think that and I am rooting
for him. You guys know that.
I don't need to keep saying it. That's probably the last time
I'll say it. You know, I'm rooting like hell
for this young man. But you just get the sense that
that Anthony Volpe is going to have to find himself somewhere
else. You know, like he's going to be
a throw in at some point in in a trade, you know, like the only
way I don't see that because he's not playing shortstop.
Like Lombard's the shortstop period.
You know, Caballero's going to be the shortstop, but he's
healthy for the for most of the season.
And then it's the George Lombard Show and it's going to be a hell
of a show. That guy.
That's one guy who the Yankees can't mess up.
I think he's different. I think he's built different.
I think his IQ is different. I think his feel for the game is
different. I think his skill sets
different. Like Lombard is going to be
phenomenal and Lombard is going to be the shortstop.
So, you know, a couple of things going to happen here.
He's either going to be, he's going to be the shortstop and
Caballero is going to move over to 2nd or if Volpe, you know,
shows that he can actually get the job done, you know, after
this year, you move on from McMahon, maybe Caballero plays a
little bit of third base. Maybe, you know, you punt Volpe
over the second. But it is absolutely gross
watching this Yankee, this Yankee line up here.
Everybody's worried about Max Freed.
To me, it's the offense even, you know, I'm not trying to
tempt fate here. And I don't think that this is
the case. But even if we got the worst
news possible for Max Freed today, right, the Yankees will
still be fine. It will still be fine whether
it's Rodriguez, whether it's Legron, Hay, Clark, Schmidt's
coming back. Roldan's fine at the back of the
bull, at the back of the rotation.
Schlitzler's an ace, one of the best pitchers in baseball.
You know, you obviously there's a bit of a variable here.
You hope that Garrett Cole is still kind of close to being
Garrett Cole. And if he is, then everything's
good. Now, if he's not, you know, and
there's no Max Freed, all right, maybe that's that.
That not maybe that would be a different consideration, a
different level of fear. But you know, here we are and
you know, every night it's the same stuff.
There's Grisham. And I just don't want to hear
about Grisham. I'm like, that is one guy.
I'm just not interested in hearing what's under the hood.
I don't care about his advanced analytics.
And this is coming from somebody who embraces and understands and
implements advanced analytics. In almost every show that I do,
at some point it comes up, some obviously a little bit more than
others. I just don't want to hear about
it with Trent Grisham, unless he's batting 7th or 8th.
That's different. Lead off, man, Not interested.
So here we are, the first little wrench J Rod in the New York
Yankee season. And again, just to finish the
thought on Volpe, Poor Volpe comes back.
Obviously Caballero's been bowling.
He said he's telling you, I'll be back in nine days, 8 days,
whatever. This guy's a dog.
And now you got to throw Volpe right in the middle of the
Subway Series with all that it's, you know, I mean, good
luck. Don't be rough.
It's. Going to be rough now.
I mean, I hope I don't know how you how it doesn't look like
it's. I don't know how it's going to
be anything other than rough. I really don't.
But I'm not really worried about Freed.
Have you been checking? Oh, I mean, I know you've been.
Checking. Yeah, I've been checking.
Haven't seen anything yet though.
Yeah, just people saying that's all I can think about today.
Yeah, you know, I will tell you that I didn't know what the hell
happened and I was watching the game.
Well, it has commands off and it's not the first like really
like 3 games in rows. Commands been a little bit off
there. So usually, like when it's a
real issue, usually there's a discernible drop in velocity.
Not the case. There's obviously in, in, in
inside pane rather than outside pane.
Not the case. And he didn't, you know, he
didn't just like leave in the middle of the game.
Not the case. I mean, he did, but he didn't
like walk off the mound holding his arm is what I mean.
And he didn't express, I didn't detect really an ounce of of
fear or trepidation in terms of what he thinks that that imaging
is going to spit back. So I'm not worried about Freed,
but it does go to show you, you know, that like just the
vulnerability of a baseball season.
He just. Things could change in a snap.
They do change in a snap. I mean, look at school now.
He'll be back, But look at school.
You know, really, the Dodgers have proven to be the only team
who have been able to absorb all these injuries.
It's like they seem to always get healthy at the right time.
It's almost like they planned this out, like they sit their
starters for a while, bring it back at the end of the year and
they're nice and fresh and ready to go on a run.
But this is I mean, this this has always been the case with
baseball. I think it's more amplified in
the last 2530 years. Like, I don't, I don't know,
maybe I'm misremembering this. And we, we have a tendency to do
this. Like we, we feel like we saw one
thing. But let me, let me take a step
back. Something today bothers us a
little bit. And then when we try to draw the
comparison to back in the day, we almost embellished like what
back in the day was, you know what I mean?
They're almost even unknowingly to justify our point about today
or our reservations about today. But like when I was growing up,
I don't know, man. I feel like Ron Guidry never
missed the start. You know, Steve Carlton never
missed the start and all he starts at Dwight Goodman was
when he was in drug rehab, you know, like Fernando.
I don't know. These guys just never missed
starts. It's absolutely it's it's weird,
dude. So, yeah, I'm in a I'm in a
strange mood with the Yankees here.
Now, I will say this, what I said last week, I stand by, I
think that this Yankees team is different than the recent ones I
do now. It's a little harder to sell
today understood. Nobody wants to hear that today.
Understood. But it's still got to be about
the big picture. I know that I know, listen, I
know the game. I played the game in terms of
actual like the content game. I don't mean the actual game.
Play the game for a long time. I've done the dance for a long
time, right? I understand.
Even back in the day, Mariano, I remember Beau blew a couple of
saves against the Red Sox in April, whatever year that was,
and everybody was all over them, including me.
I'm like, huh, maybe this is the end of MO.
Like this is what we do, this is what we do, and this is who we
are. The micro analysis for baseball
is it's very unique to to a few cities, most of which are in the
Northeast there. And that's just part of the
deal. That's what that truth of the
matter is. That's why it's one of the big
reasons why I've been a a Boon supporter #1 they've won a lot.
But I also think when you, when you deal with the, the
day-to-day stuff, especially when you're the Yankees that
that are going, that's going to pop up, right?
And even back in the day, like Tori would handle that stuff
with a rod really well. You know, any little step, David
Wells, like, hey, whatever, we're just playing ball.
I'm going to, you know, we're going to get into it behind
closed doors and I'm the boss and like, if you have the right
guy in charge. And I do think that Boone and
and Tori are different in in terms of demeanor, but I think
Aaron Boone's greatest asset, and I've said this to him and
I've said this about him many times, is that he he very he is
very good at he actually, I think he's great at managing any
sort of smoke or or noise or flare up or anything that could
get in the way of a baseball conversation.
Like, listen, I get it. You want to criticize some of
the bullpen moves that's justified, whether it's Cortez
in the World Series or whether it's, you know, taking weathers
out the other day, which which I kind of agreed with some of you
didn't, or over the weekend in Milwaukee more specifically.
Yeah, that's always going to be fair game.
But one thing about the Yanks is like it very rarely like a
story. It a story happens and then it
it's big and then it like seeps into the next day.
He just he cuts it off. And truth of the matter is, I
also think they have a pretty good clubhouse.
So there's not a lot of issues there.
So I think it's policed very well by by judge and and
Stanton, who's hurt. But I think those guys said a
really good professional tone and and the and the guys follow
suit. But you know, it's, it's a long
race and, and there's going to be some moments where you're
like, man, it's, it's going to flip.
The energy is going to flip immediately.
Like one thing about these Yankees, they are streaky like
that. I, I will say, and I didn't
think that they were going to be streaky this year.
They started playing great. Remember that?
And then they lost five straight and then they got red hot and
then they lost four in a row and they just went what, one in
five, one in five, I think it was on the road trip here.
So they're showing this propensity to be a little up and
a little down. It's not because of the
pitching. It's not because they're kicking
the ball all around the field. It's not because their base
running is sloppy. It's not because Boone's not
doing a good job, because they're not hitting, which goes
back to my ultimate point. The Yankees just are not hitting
enough. Now a lot of my confidence in
the Yankees this year is derived from the belief that the team
that were watching, you know, over the weekend and against the
Mets and yesterday against the Orioles and over the weekend
against the Brewers when they didn't hit much.
I just don't think that that's going to be the same line up.
I I just don't you know, when it really matters.
And if it is, then guess what? I will not I will not believe
that the Yankees will win the World Series.
You know, I just like it really does come.
You got to hit a little bit more man, you know, and and I know
that and I know I know that Jazz Chisholm, who's on my last
nerve. Jazz is going to have a month
where he hits three O 9 with nine home runs and twelve stolen
bases and an OPS of 910. I understand he's going to look
great for a little bit. And like, unless the contract
really gets into his head and it just morphs into a disastrous
season, which I don't really anticipate, Jazz is going to
flash. But then Jazz at some point,
probably at the most inopportune time, the playoffs is going to
morph back to the player and regress back to the player that
he too often has been. And that is somebody who is just
fundamentally sloppy and Askew and not emotionally and
physically reliable enough. So though that that's that's a
little bit of a of an updated state of the Yankees, though I
do still feel bullish on their chances to to do some big stuff
this year because I'm I'm not really worried about Max Freed.
Do you think that I'm under selling this here with Free J?
No, I mean, listen, based on like his post game interview,
just his emotionality, I think, I think you're right.
There wasn't a ton of nerves in it.
But it's all really to be determined, I guess.
You know, it's still like in that weird period of up in the
air. But based on his reaction, you
know, it reminds me similarly to the OG thing a couple weeks ago
where, yeah, this guy has dealt with a very serious injury to
this area in the past, but because of that, they know that
this current situation is not as serious.
OK, All right, let's let me just reiterate this year.
Let me reiterate this year and tell you guys really what the
biggest issue with the Yankees has been for a long, long time.
And it it goes back to what I was saying about Volpe and some
of their other younger players, right?
We have had so many different conversations and so many
different versions of the conversations.
The Yankees are cheap. They're not.
But that's been said. The Yankees are the little
brother, OK? I mean, that's been said, but we
know that that's nowhere near being true.
The Yankees don't want to win the way that they used to want
to win with George. Maybe a little bit of a version
of of that is somewhat true. Cashman's lost his fastball that
I, I believe to an extent. Certainly with the offense,
right. The Yankees developed pitchers.
They don't develop hitters. The Yankees don't have enough
enough good defenders. Like over the years, Yankees
don't run the bases enough. Yankees strike out too much.
Yankees are too reliant on the home run.
Like, there's been so many different causes for either
concern or alarm with the Yankees, but I got to tell you,
I I think I just nailed it before.
If you ask me, like, what is the big picture, You know, 50,000
feet from the sky macro snapshot.
What's the Yankees biggest issue?
The Yankees just do not draft and develop enough good hitters.
They don't they don't do it. There's a reason why all went
through. I'm saying get Nico Horner, go
get him. You know, like these are things
that you got to do. These are players that you got
to pump out. These are players that you have
to have at the top of the lineup who are just gritty.
Look at the Brewers second baseman.
I'm phenomenal as hey, you know, I mean, whether it's a walk off
over the weekend or being on base or just playing the right
way. How different would the Yankees
look if you had that guy won or even Nico Horn or somebody like
that? That guy won and then, you know,
Rice 2 and then Judge 3 and then Beldy 4 or some version of that.
Like it's just a completely different feel.
And right now, I mean, I, I will, even though he drives me
nuts, I will put Jazz in a bit of a separate category here.
I I really will because he's got more of a track record than a
lot of these guys. But I mean, I don't, I don't
expect some amazing transformation to some buttoned
up baseball player, but he's going to be better than he's
can't be worse. He's going to be better at some
point. There's a better version of of
Jazz that will come out. But what about the other guys?
Honestly, I mean, Volpe's going to hit 260 all of a sudden,
really Austin Wells going to hit 250 all of a sudden.
Like this is going to happen with with with a much lower
strikeout rate. Why would that happen?
You know, so we saw a little a little flicker of hope from Ryan
McMahon. I mean, even with that being
said, after a three-week hot streak, he said 1196.
That's going to change. You know, up Jazz has hit the
ball hard, hit the ball all right, great.
I mean, Grisham, Grisham hit the ball hard hitting 175 and he had
three seasons where he hit under 200 before he got here.
So. I really just think, and I've
said this, and this is probably been my biggest point of
contention with Brian Cashman, right?
Which is why like this, this actually, if I put myself back
to the day that I said that with tiki on WFAN, the quote that
many of you remember because they played on the morning show.
I don't know if they still play it, but they did play it for a
while. And you know, I've messed
around, had a little fun with it.
You know, Brian Cashman has not earned the right to rebuild the
Yankees the way the Yankees need to be rebuilt.
Well, I was talking about their lack of productive hitters that
come through the organization. Like this has been going on for
a long time and exhibit A, this won't be I I don't know how they
didn't chain chain that young man to a hitting T and basically
put, you know, a 50 LB weight on his front foot and say dude hit
the ball up the middle, hit the ball hard the other way, let it
get a little deep and stop bailing with that front foot.
So listen, if if you want to leave the door of possibility
open and say that the Yankees have tried to do that and
Anthony Volpe's not receptive to coaching, I don't think that at
all. I mean, I don't think that
there's anybody on the team that wants to do better than Volpe.
I mean, a lot of guys want to win and they've got a lot of
grinders on the team. So it's not a knock on the other
dudes. But this guy grew up a Yankee
fan, first round pick, New Jersey shortstop.
I mean, his idol was Cheater Pops is a massive, massive
Yankee fan. This has to be killing him.
So I would imagine if the Yankees were instructing him to
do something, that he's doing it.
I just, I just don't think that they're instructing him to do
it. And and I don't know.
I don't, I don't know. I don't know why.
All right. Are you excited about the
schedule leaks here or no? I mean, I'm definitely, I'm
certainly intrigued to see what's going to happen.
I'm not, I'm not like super locked in on it.
But yeah, I mean, I'm looking for it.
Well, hang on a SEC, hold that thought here.
What does? This say I want, I want you to
respond. To this virtual discourse, you
will eviscerate Jazz but defend Volpe because you know the
family. That is just an asinine, you
know, how about this? How about call, call, you know,
I'll respond to it, but how about you call?
Get him on the phone. All right, I'm going to take
some calls today, call, get on the phone and and elaborate and
explain yourself. No, the reason why I get on Jazz
Chisholm is because he's in space and because half the time
he acts like a clown. That's why.
All right, Anthony Volpe, just as I've said many times, was
likely overdrafted. You know, should not have been a
first round pick. Probably needed the refinement
of, you know, playing in the SEC.
He was going to go to Vanderbilt with with his buddy lighter If
he didn't get drafted by the Yankees.
And who knows, maybe we'd have a totally different player.
Maybe he'd be an outfielder, but maybe he'd be a left fielder.
I don't know. He'd have a totally different
approach. Has first of all, I just met
Volpe's family. I've never met his mom.
I just met Michael Volpe last year.
This is year 4 for Anthony Volpe.
No, it's it's you couldn't be more wrong.
It's really not a bad. I mean, if that's what you take
away from it, I mean, that's your opinion.
And but that's why I'm encouraging to call.
I'd like to hear a little bit more than than just that.
Like give me some evidence. Let's get into it, but pick up
the phone and call. I mean, that's why we have this
here. This is an outlet.
Obviously, I'm going to start the show when I'm going to tell
you what I think. And I've got a ton of ton of
content things lined up. But listen, my favorite thing
with all this stuff has always been the back and forth and
anybody, anybody, anybody. I don't care if you work, you
know, if you live in Detroit or if you listen to 1050 back in
the day, or it was with Tiki or with I don't care who you listen
to when you listen to me, I promise you I'll let you talk.
I'll let you go because that's what it's all about.
But I don't think you're going to call.
I don't think he's going to call Jay.
I don't either. I don't either you.
Know, and that's disappointing. We've got, I'm not sure if he's
ready yet. He might be away.
Yeah, I think he's away from the screen.
But we've got our buddy St. who's trying to debate you later
in the show on your international football.
I figured that, yeah, hopefully he's not offended.
Man, I stand by what I said, but yeah, we'll get my boy St. up in
a little bit. I like a big fan out in London
there. Yeah.
I mean, listen, 9 international games and we'll give STA chance
to speak. Nine international games is an
absolute freaking joke. I mean, pretty soon the Super
Bowl is going to be international and they just
don't care about you. And Speaking of the some of the
schedule stuff here, right? So we'll do the show tonight.
As I said myself, Jake and Rich Samini, Jets collective going to
be a lot of fun. So as soon as The Jets schedule
drops, we'll dissect it. They're opening with Tennessee.
That has already been leaked. We know that.
So you got a little Robert Sala Week 1.
You've got it looks like three of the first four games will be
on the road, which I don't really love.
Week 2 will be home to the Green Bay Packers, which is cool.
I'll be at that game. I was going to the Giants
schedule as well. Giants schedule seems pretty
favorable. There is a chance for the Giants
to to really get off to a very good start.
Looking at the Saints in Week 6 and some of these other teams
that they play. Obviously Dallas early, which
you know, you never know. It's a good rivalry and stuff
and Dallas should be able to put some points up, but I think that
it's going to be a lot of fun with the schedule tonight.
I I'm not sitting there with bated breath.
I mean, if there was like I one thing I don't get like I'm I'm
going to get the news right. I'm going to find out who's
playing where. Now tonight's different only
because I'm doing the jet show, right.
But in years past, I'll just I'll find the schedule as soon
as it's out. Like if you think that I'm now
again, tonight will be fun because we'll dissect it and
we'll talk about, you know, is it fair or maybe not?
Is it fair? But is is it a is it a are there
early wins? Is it a treacherous Rd.
I mean, what do we think here to Aaron Glenn like there that'll
be fun. But in all the other years when
they started doing this on ESPN and the NFL Network when they
release the schedule, like whatever, man, wake me up when
it comes out. Like if I'm if you think I'm
sitting there IA lot of times I do the I do the same with the
NFL draft there like if if the if the Yankees now it's a little
different, like Yankees and Mets in in obviously early in the
year, but Knicks are playing a game and which which they were.
You got a Knick playoff game. You got the NFL draft there.
I mean, I'm I'm locked into the NFL draft.
I'm pardon me, I'm locked into the NBA game.
And then I'm just going to, you know, pop in, open up my phone.
All right, now I will try to time it out.
All right, Jets are picking giants picking.
I know when they're picking so you can navigate that, but
anytime and this came up with Jerry and it's funny, I don't
know if you caught this. So the 8 DPHR and Rothenberg you
see this this morning there, J Rod.
Yes, Sir, someone commented about that too.
They said DT because one of them said I think Dave said he wanted
to come on unleashed. Is that what he said?
Yeah, I think so. On it, definitely bring him on
Unleashed, no question about it. I'd love to bring him on.
I don't know him I but I've said I've been a fan of his work.
He's a passionate fan. I think he's a great Giants fan.
And you know, him and Jerry seem to have this little squabble
back and forth. And I think it started I maybe
I'm wrong, but I think I know there's a lot of mixed up there
between those two guys, right? But I think it started with
either Dave wasn't sure if he was going to watch like the
Knicks or the draft. And I don't want to misrepresent
the point. And, and Jerry was like nothing,
you watch the game and then you just kind of figure out who's
drafted. I think that was the origin of
it. I think I'll definitely get Dave
on the show there. I have no question about it, is
that if he said that I don't have his number, so I'd have to
get it from like the Greca or Kay or somebody.
I mean, maybe, maybe I'll be the peacemaker instead of getting
dragged into these beeps, you know, like I was two months ago.
I will. Maybe I'll just, you know, I'll
be the good guy and I'll make sure everybody's happy and
friendly. Everybody's getting along.
I would, I listen, I would genuinely listen to those guys
in the morning. I would flip around.
You know, I want, yeah, I'd want to get Jerry's update, which is
always money. Jerry, of course, rat goes
updates great. And then I would listen to those
guys quite a bit. I think they do a really, really
good job, so. Yeah, I have to.
I'll watch through the whole video.
But someone commented saying he wanted he he mentioned wanted to
come on so. All right.
I mean, we can we can make that happen.
Yeah. I got never.
I don't even know if I've ever been in the same room as him.
I think the only time that I mentioned this the other day I I
met Rick and it was kind of in passing could do though, where
we were at a charity golf outing for our old boss, Tim McCarthy,
one of the great guys in our business.
Timmy ran ESPN Radio for basically 20 years and he's the
one who hired me. So I've got he's a good friend
and he's a great mind from a sales point of view, programming
one of the best people in our business, Timmy McCarthy, love
him. Shout out, talk to Timmy.
Great dude, man, wild man too. We had, we had some fun nights
and and his brother passed away years ago and he would do a
charity golf outing and we would all go and like Jim Layridge
would be there and a bunch of Yankees and everybody at the
station. And that's when Allen and DPHR
were working together. I've known Allen forever.
Matter of fact, when Allen, when I was at 10:50 and Allen was
covering the Knicks for Newsday, I was getting, you know, and I,
I joke around like out where's my 10%?
I could use it now. I'm the one who put you on the
radio for the first time. Now he's on MSG.
Now he's doing games, now he's doing radio.
And I just knew he was good and and I loved his, his Nick
content and we had a great rapport.
And I'm, I'm pretty tight with Allen.
I know him really well. But I did meet DPH for that day
and and he was cool. But yeah, we'll get, we'll get
we'll get Roth on the show. I would love to do that.
But anyway, just to finish the thought here about the schedule
release, I mean, it's not appointment TVI think really The
Jets Collective will be, if you're a Jets fan, appointment
watch because we're going to break it down.
Here's what we know so far. All right, so let me see.
We got about 12 or 13 things, and then there's a lot of other
stuff that's kind of confirmed but not fully confirmed.
I'm not going to waste time on that.
Here's what we absolutely know. All right, Week 1.
So we know three-week one games. We got the Niners at the Rams,
that's in Australia. We got the Cowboys, Giants,
Sunday Night Football. That's going to be awesome.
Broncos at the Chiefs, Monday Night Football, great rivalry,
awesome Week 2 Lions at the Bills.
And that's when the Bills will open their new stadium.
I can't wait to see it. That's going to be really,
really good. That's Thursday Night Football.
Then the Week 3 matchup would be Ravens at the Ravens, Cowboys in
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, right? And then you've got the Colts in
the Commanders in London. That's Week 5.
You get the Eagles, Jags in London, now we get the London
Games, you get Texans, Jags, and then Week 7 you got steal their
Saints in Paris. I mean, whatever.
I don't. I really don't think I'll watch
a second of that game. I don't care what's going on.
Bengals, Falcons in Spain. OK.
I mean, maybe if Joe Burrow was on my fantasy team, sure.
What else? We got Pat's Lions Week 10 in
Munich, Germany. That, I mean, that could be a
game that you have to watch for a lot of reasons.
If Rabel's still there, which I'm not so sure he will be, and
I touched on that about a week or so ago.
If you guys missed the the segment, go check it out on the
channel Vikings and Niners Mexico City.
I mean, Vikings should stink depending upon what I'm doing.
We'll see if I watch that. But I'll tell you what, and I
know I've been all over the NFL, too many international games.
They don't care about you. It's all about the almighty
dollar, which we obviously know. But what are the limits of the
greed and the gluttony here? Like at some point, the people
who built the sport, us, our parents, their parents, you
know, I mean, the NFL used to be a distant, let's see, I would
say between baseball, between boxing, between horse racing.
I mean, the NFL, when the NFL was, was in its infancy, you
know, it was, it was just, I mean, it's kind of niche and
really what it was. So, you know, now I, I just, I
feel like I've got to defend the fans because there's only so
many voices that could do it. And, you know, a lot of the
people that are making good money and good for them, they
will never take shots at the NFL because they're, they're
basically in bed with the NFL. You have people on the NFL
Network shitting on international games.
He'll be off the channel in a heartbeat.
I mean, that doesn't work that way.
That's one of the beauties of being an independent contractor.
I say whatever I want. J Rod, you know, I wouldn't mind
that. I wouldn't mind that paycheck
though there. But no, the point is you just
don't have enough voices. I'm not saying there's none, but
you don't have enough voices who are keeping it real with this
international slate. It's crazy.
But I will give them credit here.
The Thanksgiving like wrap around is awesome.
So Thanksgiving Eve, Packers at the Rams, Netflix awesome.
I mean, you know, you would think big NFC high seed
implications, you know, quarterbacks who can play, you
know, coaches, you know, Lafleur's, you know, not not
quite McVeigh, but you know, higher profile coaches, good fan
bases money right Then Thanksgiving and depending upon
the year, this would have been a shit game.
But Bears at the lions, it's going to be a good one.
It's going to be an important one.
Then you got the Eagles and the Cowboys that's obviously in
Dallas. Then you have the chiefs and the
Bills that's in Buffalo. That's going to be really good.
And then Black Friday, the Broncos and the Steelers, I
mean, really, of the five games that that one has the potential
to be the biggest snoozer potentially.
Not saying that it's going to be a completely, you know, useless
game, but you know, I don't I don't really know what to expect
from the Steelers this year. And I'm not even incredibly,
incredibly high, like massively high on the Denver Broncos.
But they did get that right. Like they say.
And I do like the Thanksgiving Eve game.
I have railed on the NFL like Christmas Day games.
I think that there's got to be, there's got to be limits, right?
This is my opinion. Some of you disagree with this
and I get it. Many of you do agree though, cuz
you get it. Cuz you, you have families.
I'm just not a fan of interrupting the family
structure to the extent in which they do.
I mean, it's if you already think about, I mean, I'm not
trying to get overly philosophical or, you know,
shove stuff down your throat here, but like, if you already
think about the way life has been speed up for so many
people, you know, I mean, those, those precious days, Christmas
morning, you know, the Thanksgiving, but that's
different. We've always been used to that
with football, you know, Saturday football late in
December, you know, dance recitals, basketball games,
youth football games. Like, you know, it's it's a
tough dance. But when, when we and I know
this is so long ago and I know that the world has changed and
I'm not trying to make it about me, but it's my only point of
reference. Like we never had that juggle at
all at all. Now, my sister played sports a
little bit much more of a, of an intellect.
Like she, her sport was reading and every textbook and homework.
She loved it, right. But like, like we never once
have because they, they didn't have baseball facilities.
I wish they did. They didn't have baseball
facilities for winter training. So like my winter schedule would
be all right. We got a CYO game at Saint Pat's
at 1:00 on Saturday or noon on Sunday and that was it.
You know, that was literally it. And then during, you know,
baseball season, I did play a fair amount of travel baseball.
Not to the extent that my son plays now.
It wasn't like that back then schedule wise.
But like now we are literally running around and racing around
coming home. Like last night, we walked in
the door at 9:25, you know, which means they had to eat
before, which means that's a little rushed, which means not
that you're rushing homework, but you know, you got to get it
done. And then if you don't get it all
done, you got to finish. And then, you know, again, if
you have young kids, even though they're not babies, but you'd
think that you would think that you're asking them to like try
to lift up a car and climb a mountain when you tell them to
go take a shower, you know, but it's like they, my daughter
doesn't do this. She's phenomenal with it.
But like my son comes in, he takes off 1 sock right after a
game, takes off off 1 sock, it's on the couch, takes off the
other sock, it's on the floor. You know, it's you know, he's
got a 3D printer, he's got a little business, like a little
fidget gadget business. So we so it, which is awesome.
He goes and he checks on no. He's into that stuff.
Yeah, that's sick, dude. I believe my generation had that
bro dude. He makes some great stuff and
he's made some what he doing. For sure.
Yeah, dude, my no, no. Good, good it.
Was it was just a small aside on the youth and 3D printers?
No, I mean my roommate's girlfriend's brother super into
it and we've got like we've got a little, I'll grab it and I'll
show it next time I'm on Cam. A Little Rock octopus, a
Roctopus. So it's an A 3D printed octopus
with Dwayne the Rock Johnson's face.
Are you serious? Yeah, wait, I'll, I'll show it
to you in a SEC. It's awesome, man.
You could do some wild stuff there.
He makes, he made a ball marker for my father-in-law, who's a
great golfer who was here this past weekend.
He's made again. Like I, I guess those fidgets
were made for, you know, kids, maybe with focus.
I'm, I'm not, I'm not really sure why fidgets were born.
I mean, jeez, but you know, he, he doesn't need them and my
daughter doesn't, but they make them.
He makes fidgets like Oreo cookies.
So he's black, then the white and then the black and you click
them. He, he, he really does.
And he's got the invoices he's got.
I told you the other day there, literally there were 300 boxes
dropped on my doorstep. 300 boxes.
God Dang, what? The fuck is this 300 boxes?
I'm like, what are we doing here?
I said. And so then I said get rid of
these, you got enough. Yep.
So he wrote a note and he put it on the door and he told it was
either UPS or USP or whoever it was, I don't know, you know,
please don't deliver anymore. Because I guess if you don't
tell them to stop delivering boxes, they just keep delivering
them. What the Hell's going on here,
man? Anyway, the point is, yeah,
it's, I appreciate the I was saying I respect.
The entrepreneurial spear, right?
So do I, so do I and he's got the little Venmo deal, but he's
got, you know, a couple of his buddies, like 1 is the, you
know, he's obviously the owner, but you know, like, like there's
different roles like marketing and some other.
It's, it's good. It's great for the mind, it's
great for the, for the mind and for, you know, critical thought
and, and working together and all that stuff and
responsibility because you got to get them done.
If you, you know, if you take the money, you got to get the,
got the, you got to build the product, which is something I
made sure. I'm like, dude, you better make
sure that these are going out. Like you can't have just people
pay you 8910 bucks to do this and then you don't send it.
I was like, my only concern early on anyway, there's a long
way of getting to this. There's just so much stuff going
on and and I really do think that the NFL has been a little,
not a little very cavalier in how they, you know, how they
just basically force fetus all this stuff.
But it has been happening more and more.
And like anything in life, once you start to get a little used
to it, even if you resist it, you know, vehemently kicking and
screaming early on, you will eventually conform.
And then you will eventually stop complaining.
And then you will eventually consume.
And then when you consume, you will eventually spend, right?
Like think about this like I remember, you know, like I don't
know why I had such an issue with it.
Probably because I was just lazy.
But you know, when EZ pass first came out and I'm not getting EZ
pass man. I'm just I'm used to it's like
long time ago when I obviously first started driving.
But I'm like, Nah, I'll just you know, I'll just throw the money
in the thing or, or whatever. Or you hand them dollars if it's
coins you flip them in or dollars.
You know, if you don't have the exact change you do it make the
transaction. I waited for that forever.
I I just waited forever. And then finally I acquiesced.
And you know, like I like I couldn't imagine my life without
EZ pass right now. Now I wish it wasn't as
expensive. We're getting bent over with
that. But you know, when I'm traveling
to whether it's Staten Island or Jersey, all these games and I
see people getting ready to pay. I'm like, you know,
conventionally with the with the money, I'm like suckers and I'm
just driving through you get used to it.
I mean every when the first streaming streaming.
Line or whatever came out, you know it was like confusing I'm
like oh man, I just want to kind of stick with regular TV and HBO
and TiVo and then all of a sudden I got Netflix, I got
Hulu, I've got the prime, you got everything and yeah, we
complained a little bit about it, right.
We complained a little bit about it, but then it becomes
normalized. Same thing with the phones.
Oh man, my bill is how much a month 100, whatever it like a 2,
I don't know an Apple, an iPhone is 1000 bucks.
Wow jeez 1000 bucks for a phone? What are we doing here?
Need a new phone? Here's 1000 bucks.
I know you can do trade insurance and all that stuff,
which I do, but when you first buy it like we are always
resistant to stuff early on. Same thing with the prices for
parking. 100 bucks to go watch The Jets and the Browns in the
rain, which is what I paid 100 bucks.
Guess what? I didn't make AU turn and go
home. I paid the 100 bucks, thank you
very much. May I have another?
And I sat in the rain and I watched two dog teams play.
Just played well, they had some special team touchdowns that
day. But anyway, it, it's, it's just,
it's my aversion to and it's my resistance to just letting these
leagues do whatever they want to do.
And and I realized that one voice is not going to change
everything, but by at least they're going to try.
Speaking of football right I'm I'm trying I really don't know
what to think about Malik neighbors.
I got to be very honest with you about this.
I don't know you know you saw the news yesterday you had a
second procedure. Malik neighbors all right, so
torn ACL obviously happened very early in this Jackson darts
first start and then we knew we had we had to wait a month
because of the swelling and a lot of people and this is
unfair. A lot of people like why is he
waiting so long? Because you can't operate with
swelling. It's actually very common now it
does delay the return, but you can't get in you can't get in
there surgically and probe around when they're swelling.
That's just basic stuff. So he has the torn ACL, then
he's got a a full meniscus repair, which obviously you
know, you're going to, you're going to heal, but it, it
complicates the recovery attacks on a little bit more time there.
And then we found out that what the surgery was delayed for
months with the swelling and then he had a second surgery a
7-8 months later. All right, So after the initial
one month wait for the torn ACL and the meniscus repair, there
was a second and you know, it was scar tissue and scar tissue
is painful, man. And it's funny, I was just
talking about Max Fried's, you know, and I don't think he's
going to be Tommy John. You know, I just, I feel pretty
good about that based on what he said and, and, and the optics of
it. But I remember when I, when I
had my Tommy John surgery about two years later, because I was
obviously done playing ball. Maybe if I was still playing, it
would have been a year later. But like 2 years later, I went
in and I had a second procedure, arthroscopic in and out, no big
deal on the same elbow because I had the scar tissue.
And the scar tissue, like when they're, if you ever, if you
ever had a surgery and they're breaking up the scar tissue,
it's actually more painful than, I mean, well, I mean, you're out
during the surgery, but you know what I mean?
Like breaking up a scar tissue is no joke.
I mean, it's, you are riding in pain.
Like you got to, you got to strap it and you got to suck it
up. And you just have to let the,
the orthopedic surgeon or, you know, usually that's who you go
to the orthopedic doctor, do what they have to do.
And then that's what the second procedure was to break up the,
the scar tissue. Because the scar tissue
basically just think of just like an inflammation that then
limits the ability to like move back and forth.
So full movement and all that stuff.
Now they say that the timeline is unaffected and they are
hopeful for week 1. Again, I'm I'm not trying to be
irresponsible with this. I'm not worried about Malik
neighbors of like eventually regaining all of his burst and
all of his cut and all of his explosion.
He's a wonderful athlete, man. He's just 1% of the athletes in
the world. But that was a little
disconcerting there. I I don't know how anybody could
just say, all right, no big deal.
You know, there, there could be in between.
Like, it doesn't have to be. Oh, my God.
Malik Neighbors had a second surgical procedure.
Wow, we're screwed. What are we going to do?
He's not going to be ready. He won't be back till October.
No, I don't think that that's going to be the case at all.
And then the opposite of that would be.
Yeah, he's fine. No big deal.
I mean, you know, listen, when you are young and they go in
there and they probe around with medical instruments, there is
some downstream residual impact to the body that might not pop
up right away but is going to eventually resurface.
My right elbow kills me, absolutely kills me.
I mean, to this day I just plow through it like an idiot.
Now I'm an idiot and I'm not a real athlete.
He is not an idiot and he is a real athlete.
So he's going to be fine. But you know, I mean, it's just,
it's, it's a very delicate thing and the advancement for knee
procedures, even like knee replacements and hip
replacements for older people, Tommy John surgery has become
much more advanced. As, as, as you know, as I know,
back surgery has been really the last one to really medically
take that big, big because it's so complex.
It's so hard to navigate the back with, with the nerves and
the spine. It's just a different type of,
of, of surgery and potential bad results.
But even that's gotten much better.
Like you look at Europe and they've, they've come up with
these, you know, these gel cushions when you're in between
the vertebrae, you can kind of stack them and you can kind of
regain some flexibility and take away the paint, all that stuff.
So even that has advanced tremendously.
But you know, I, I would say pertaining to Malik neighbors
here on a scale of 1 to 10, I mean, honestly, last week I was,
I was at a one. I'm like, he's fine, dude, he's
fine. I'm not saying I'm going to
sound the alarm over the top. I'd probably bring that up to a
three and seal and I'd say it's about a three 3 1/2 and and and
really just look at it and say, all right, all right, I'm going
to look at this just a little differently because when you
hear in the middle of May that the timeline is, is relatively
unaffected. All right, that's fairly
comforting now. But before you know it, it's
going to be training camp and you don't need him ready on the
first day coming out of burst and cutting out a dime.
He won't be doing that, but you you wouldn't like him ready for
the start of the season. And if he's not, it's not the
biggest deal in the world because the Giants aren't going
to win the Super Bowl this year. And, you know, Dart's a kid and
obviously he's a kid neighbors and you want to protect their
bodies. But interesting, you know, you
know, if if it's an offensive lineman, if it's a tight end,
you know, even if it's a safety, you know, it's like a linebacker
who's more of a tackler than a guy who's whose game is built on
burst. Less of a concern.
Torn ACL, full meniscus repair. Again, the swelling, not a big
deal. So you wait the one month and
then second surgery 7-8 months later.
So as I talk about the freed possibility there, Jay and I
talk about the neighbor's situation.
What do you feel about the neighbor's situation?
Listen, I'm not as concerned, but yeah, I mean, I don't
listen. I don't know too much about the
neighbors compared to the Freed injury, but either of them I
don't think are like too much of A cause for concern for either
team all. Right, doctor, that is.
You know what? I'm going to call you out to me.
What were you doing? What were you looking up?
I said. Fella, you were half listening
there. What?
Were you? Listen, I I caught the freed.
I didn't catch the neighbors. I got you.
I got you.
That's why I got to be. I got to be careful when I ask
you stuff because I know you're doing a lot of stuff back there.
It's all good, buddy. What happened to Joe B coming on
this week? I probably missed it when they
announced he wouldn't be on. When they announced he wouldn't
be on. What do you mean Charlie?
He was on last week. He was awesome.
Joe was great. He was After that, the numbers
were off the charts. The viewership was incredible.
Joe was was awesome. Oh, he went nuts on Stearns.
Check it out, Charlie. Yeah, check it out, Charlie.
He he did keep the politics to a minimum to make sure we didn't
get too much. You know, you listen to Joe, you
know that Joe is on a Saturday show.
Joe's always going to weave in some politics.
That's his right, you know, but we we made sure we you know, and
it was going to gloss over one or two things, but not over the
top. I'm not saying there was none of
it, but really it was a lot of sports up And really the thing
that was great about Joe and this what's so great about a lot
of these conversations here is that they're just it's not like,
oh, Joe, what do you think about David Stern?
We then what about the Mets chances to be a wild card team?
Joe, like when I get these people on the show, it's it's a
real conversation. That's one of the reasons why to
me, Rothenberg would be appealing because I don't know
anything about his background and I know his son was a pretty
good high school baseball player who hit some home runs.
I remember him talking about that, hearing that on the radio
a little bit. I'm not sure if he's done yet.
I'm not sure if he's playing collegiately, but obviously Dave
is a is a really proud dad. I'm very humble about it.
But I would hear that come up a little bit when when Rick would
bring it up or, or they would talk about it.
But I, I love the, the freedom and, and the, the ability just
to bounce from topic to topic. And Joe got, Joe got really deep
about his childhood. Like, I didn't know a lot.
And I know Joe well, like Joe's a friend and I, you know, I know
Terry. I love Joe.
I've known him for a long time. And some of those things I just
did not know. And then he's getting into acid
trips. You get, you just got the whole
Joe B experience. It was absolutely phenomenal.
Dude, it was, I just, I loved how free flowing it was and man,
dude, there's the picture of him like in front of the old school
TV with the broom with the broom.
Oh my God, I love it dude. Like he's still using the TV
from like 20. Well, you know.
What's funny and a lot and his a lot of people I guess were
clowning him on that and I love it.
Yeah, no, I know me too. But I know Samantha, his
daughter used felt compelled to kind of jump in and defend Joe
like Joe was getting hit for that.
Like I mean, what what kind of person?
I don't know, like what would compel somebody?
It's one thing if you joke around like Joe, I mean, you
know, how about getting a flat screen like, but it seemed like
it was pretty mean spirited where she felt like she had to
jump in and defend her pops a little bit, which I I respect,
you know, but Joe with the broom and Joe, you know, with, with
the shirt tucked in. That's another thing too.
One thing about I'm not saying Joe's old, but older people,
right? Why do they tuck the shirt in
like that? I've never understood that.
Everybody does that. My dad does it, my father-in-law
does. I I don't.
Even when I'm doing TV, true. Even when I'm doing TVI have
always been the guy. I don't tuck in until two or
three minutes before I go on the air.
Like, you know, when I was doing SNY for seven years, right?
We get makeup now. I don't even, I think they got
rid of the makeup artist for COVID and then, you know, the
business has changed, financial reasons, whatever.
But we had a full makeup artist back then and I would just go in
like, you know, and I would have my my dress pants and I would
have my shirt, you know, I wouldn't even have my tie on
yet. I would have like 2 buttons
open, my shirt untucked. And I would get makeup.
And then like I'd go in the green room, I'd shoot the shit.
And then like, you know, I was, I think my show was on at 5:30,
I think 5:30 or 6. I think it was 532.
Six. You know, 522.
All right, let's let let. Come on, Pharrell.
Come on, Moose. Come on.
Whoever's on the show with me. Let's go.
Then I would tuck in like you can't pay me to tuck in.
I hate it. I feel uncomfortable and but the
older. Generation they are tuckers.
Maybe it's like the the pant along, like the protruding gut,
like maybe that's more comfortable.
Like having like your. Joe's not built like that really
Joe like, but like, I don't know, like maybe that's more
comfortable to have like the pants around like your stomach
line rather than your waist like.
You pull the pants up. Yeah, well, but you can still do
that and just have the shirt hanging out.
Yeah, absolutely. You're totally right.
I don't know if it's as comfortable and Joe has no
protrusion. Joe was a runner for a long
time. Joe's in, you know, I'm, I'm not
saying he's out there lifting weights everyday, but Joe's out
there playing golf. He's in he's in pretty decent
shape, you know, but there is something about the, you know
what it is. It's probably more like of a,
you know, military, just a more conforming to societal dress
codes. I mean, even think about the
industry. Like what?
What I don't know, Are kids still suiting up for interviews?
Are they? I would hope so.
Dude, interviews now are different man, cuz you, I will
tell you right now, I've never done an in person interview
other than for like Guitar Center working like a retail job
for, for my podcasting stuff and any of this.
I've never done an in person interview.
So yeah, you're still kind of dressing up nice.
But dude, you could have freaking your Hanes underwear on
underneath and it doesn't matter.
Yeah, I know it's changed a lot, even like, you know, do you go
to a wedding? There's some people like dress
sneakers now. I've got into that probably well
over 10 years ago. That's always been big.
Like the Jordan. I'm not always.
That's certainly not always, not always in my lifetime.
I feel like the Jordan ones at the wedding have been like a
huge thing. Yes, even for, you know, like
any dude really like the Jordan ones, the 11 sometimes people
aware at the wedding. Oh yeah, yeah.
I'm pretty, yeah. I I've honestly been to some, I
don't know if I've been to a wedding, but I've been to some
formal events where like some of the main people, a part of it
were just wearing Jordans and stuff like that.
And they're like, yeah, that's what I listen, what I'm doing
with the Saint John's games, with Mink now.
Mink is Mink again. Mink's old school, right?
Mink is tucked in. Mink is suited up.
Mink's got the little, you know, little pin on his lapel.
Saint John's, you know, you know, always the company guy.
So am I me. Hell, I'm wearing Saint John's
today. You know, I love Saint John's,
but I mean he is the ultimate company guy.
He's got the tie fully shaved, the dress shoes, the dress
socks, the belt, the suit, all this stuff I shot me.
When I do games I wear jeans, nice jeans, brand new Jordans.
I got, you know, two pair black and, you know, always get 2
pairs for the season, Black and red.
Johnny's colors low cuts, right? Yeah.
The BT Classics. You know, those the ankle socks,
I wear ankle socks, right, But then and then I'll have on, you
know, a really nice shirt and you know, the blazer.
The blazer is my I've got a a nice collection of, you know,
really good Blazers. And then if I want to pop it
with like, you know, whether it's one of those little like
lapel, like those flower flowery, like lapel things which
are pretty popular, which kind of accent with the tie or bring
out certain colors in the blazer, or if I want to go
pocket square, probably got about 50 of those things.
But even up until the game, like I'm doing the pregame, I'm I'm
my shirt's not even tucked in. I just can't tuck in.
Like, that's something I'm surprised that that would be
either a good Seinfeld bit or a good Curb bit, right?
There, there, honestly, there could be.
I I just have to check it out, but not that I've seen.
That is a good, that is a good thought.
You know, something I've realized though, I, I think now
the sign of like not professionalism, but kind of the
sign of like wealth or the flex is wearing sweatpants instead of
a suit. Like I think due to wear it like
like the athleisure Lululemon sweatpants with like the quarter
zip top. Not that I I don't think that's
fresh in any sort. Of.
Context But I think those are the dudes who that's like,
that's how people kind of flex and explain themselves.
Is is I'm the kind of guy who I don't have to show up, dress
informally, I can show up anywhere, dressing in sweatpants
and anything, and it won't matter because I am who I am.
Give you a good example. I don't know if he's always
wearing sweats. And I know it's different now,
but like when Cuban bought The Mavericks, he was there in,
like, jeans and a Mavericks jersey or AT shirt.
Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of.
I guess that's kind of true. Hey, have you got into the show
on Is it Netflix? Hold on.
I think it is running point. Have you gotten into that?
I don't believe. So no, no.
About like this fictitious team that's supposed to be the Lakers
with Kate Hudson. Oh, I'll check that out.
Yeah, watch on. It's good and it's good because
and they they released it more in the old school way where it's
not like season after season. It like they they had one
season. I think there was 8 episodes and
I really like it's funny. It's a it's a light view.
It's not like it's deep thought, but it's well written and it's
it's comedically, it's on point. It's good.
And I'm a big Hudson fan. And then they had I had to wait
a year for season 2. Oh man.
And I was actually pumped. I'm like, when's it coming out?
When it it came out, I think late.
No way, Chet. Hanks is in this.
Yes, Oh my. Gosh, I need to watch this dude.
Oh my God, I love that dude. It's absolutely fun.
Dude I watched the the the roast and this is my main take away.
Like the roast? Kevin.
Hart Yep, dude, Tom Brady is the stiffest man and I'm a Pats fan.
He's the stiffest guy on planet Earth, dude.
Like it's like they walk out a robot with like human skin on it
and have it tell some jokes and stuff like that.
Like there's just something about him that just like hits me
as like it's so off. It's so Kardashian like, like
his vibe. I mean, not really, dude.
I don't, no. Just something about Tom Brady
just hits me as like he's an incredibly like stiff and like
very calculated guy. Like everything he says, like
you could tell he's thought about it.
Like there's just nothing off the cuff with him.
It just it's not natural. OK, I mean, I I don't get that.
I almost feel like the Tom Brady that we used to get was that
way, where I think this is more who he is.
I mean, he is a guy who is, I mean, we are, his level of
competitiveness is, is legendary.
But you know, dropping the F bombs and doing these roasts
here and, and just letting himself out there.
I, I think that that's more him. I I've seen him on a bunch of
podcasts where he's just chilling.
I don't think he's now you want to tell him he's had some work
done. I yeah, maybe that's a little
different. No, I don't know.
Yeah, I don't. Know if it's just that it's just
like something about him, he was just like.
Oh really? Like he's just.
Like kind of stiffish, like kind of robotic.
Little C3PO for you. Speaking of Tom Brady, let me
get into this first. I had this written down.
I want to get into it now here. I don't know if you guys caught
this, but the, the thought about Bill Belichick's been pushing
this for a while now about renaming the Lombardi Trophy,
the Tom Brady trophy. And it's when you first hear it.
Well, I don't, I don't know how you feel when you first hear it.
When I first hear it, I'm like, no, like, because to me, that's
just another example of trying to always change things.
You know, I don't know why we have to change anything.
Like, well, I mean, there's certain things in the world that
we have to change, understood, right.
And, and we have, but I think there's been too much
unnecessary change with certain things.
And you know, Lombardi, you know, if I, if you ask any
football fan, hey, who's the greatest coach of all time?
Now, depending upon how old they are, let me ask you, who do you
think the greatest coach of all time is in the NFL?
Who is it? And you got to see.
Belichick. I mean, yeah, I'm going
Belichick. You you have to.
From my experience, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
No, you should. From what I've seen, just for,
yeah, from what I've seen, I'm going Belichick.
Agreed. OK, Now I never saw Lombardi
obviously at all. And to me it's, it's Lombardi
and Belichick and it's Belichick and Lombardi.
You know, whatever order you want to put those guys in, I I
don't have an issue with it. And then I think after that, you
know, I've always put Parcells up there, like I've always said,
if I've got one team. And you know, I've got 1 coach
to win and, and like shape A-Team.
Parcells will be my guy. He is my all time favorite.
He might actually be my all time favorite coach in any sport.
You know, I'm really, I mean, I and I love Joe Torre, but you
know, Joe did not win early at all with the Mets and you know,
with the Cardinals and didn't want a little bit with the
Braves. But like he won with the Yankees
because he had amazing talent and he was able to, you know,
navigate Steinbrenner and all the New York pressure.
And you gave him a world of credit.
And I love Joe. Like Joe.
Joe and I, I mean, we're from the same area.
Like literally where I grew up and where Joe grew up is
probably 7-8 blocks away, literally across the park,
across Marine Park. He was just.
He was just on the other side, you know, and we played for the
same youth team growing up. He played for the Cadets and I
played for the Cadets. Anyway, I love Joe, like Joe's
the best, right? But I don't think like Joe's an
all time great manager myself. He's an all time great Yankee
based on the results. But if I think about like
tacticians, you know, I'm going to throw somebody like Miller
Huggins. I mean, just just based on the
research, obviously never saw him.
Tony Larussa. I think Sparky Anderson is up
there. I think that let's see here.
I mean, those are a couple of the names that I've always kind
of said and and I I just don't think Joe Torry's necessarily in
in Earl Weaver, Billy Martin, I think was a a better, much
better tactician than Joe Torry. Again, no disrespect to Joe
Torry, but when I think about football, I don't know how
Lombardi could have been better than Parcells.
Now you can tell me all right, championships, this that, and
obviously in terms of championships, Belichick's got
everybody beat. But I also look at Belichick's
accomplishments and I don't just go to the end result of the
championships. I look at the whole picture
where he didn't do much with the Browns.
Now he was getting it better before he got fired and he was
the DC for those great giant teams when they won the
championships with Bill. But see, to me, and maybe, maybe
this is the wrong way to look at it, I I almost give more points
to somebody who is a proven rebooter.
And Parcells. You always say it.
I do. You always say with Pitino, man,
you know what I say? Yeah, It's the adaptability,
bro. There you go.
I wasn't even going to use the word adaptability, but I always
do lean on that. But true, you know, and and like
the messaging, the adaptability, the the instincts.
Like I think the toughest thing to do is to walk into a room,
you know, a football locker room, 53 dudes.
And you know, for a team that's been moribund, not, not not
disciplined, a lot of penalties, an offensive line that gives up
a lot of sacks, a lot of turnovers like The Jets, I mean,
basically, you know, maybe outside of giving up the sacks
because the old line is good, but take a team like that and to
walk into that room and to immediately, I mean immediately.
And it's all documentable where you just what whatever you
espouse, whatever you teach, whatever you demand, whatever
you preach like it works immediately.
It worked. Now his his first year with the
Giants, I think he only won three games, almost got fired,
but then bang got fixed right away.
And then obviously, you know, he's with the Patriots and
they're in the Super Bowl and he won a very this I will use the
word adaptability because with the Giants, he wanted to run the
ball and he wanted to play great defense with his linebackers,
right? And that's how they won Lawrence
Taylor, etcetera. And then he goes to the Pats and
he's got Drew Bledsoe and he's letting Drew Bledsoe, who could
spin it, spin it, who could really throw it.
He'd let him throw 4550 * A game like that happened pretty
frequently. And he was adaptable there.
And then when he came to the end and the Patriots were down when
he went there and then he got him to the Super Bowl.
Then he bounces and then he comes to The Jets.
And before he gets to The Jets, they're 3 and 13.
They're one and 15. It's the Co tight circus and the
first year that he's with The Jets, they go nine and seven and
the first game that he ever coached for the New York Jets,
they won 40 to 6 at Seattle, coming off for one and 15 seats.
I remember because I had season tickets at that point, I
remember sitting in my first apartment with my buddy Rob and
watching the game and then like five guys and we had actually
had a grossly fun day. Like 5 spits came over cab.
We had a, we had a pretty good day and we didn't know what to
expect, man. Like The Jets were horrendous
the year before. One in 15-1 in 15 and they're up
in Seattle or over in Seattle and they win 40 or 43 to 6.
I'm like, what? Like that transfer?
And then they went nine and seven and that, and then they
went 12 and 4 the next year and they won the AFC East for the
first time ever. And then, you know, who knows
what would happen in 99 if he doesn't get hurt week one
against the Pats. The point is like the ability to
so quickly implement whatever you believe and whatever you're
non negotiable with right and toward and weed out the guys
immediately that that you know you cannot.
You can identify them a mile away.
Nope, not my kind of guy. Nope, not all in.
Nope. Little selfish, little soft, a
little dumb in terms of the football IQ, a little too
reckless off the field. And unless you're Lawrence
Taylor or a couple of others, we're not going to look the
other way because your talent doesn't, you don't have like,
you're just not going to get that.
You don't deserve it because you're not Lawrence Taylor.
You know, I just think he's the absolute master at that.
You know, I didn't see, I didn't see Belichick do that.
He didn't do that with Cleveland and he didn't really even do
that with the Pats. I mean, if you look at I'm going
to pop something up here real quick, I want to make sure that
I'm I don't miss anything. If you look at the Patriots,
this will take one SEC guys, Pat's year by year, year by year
record, all right, and then here you go.
And football. They want the verification.
Come on, man. All right, maybe this will be it
by the season. All right, What what year did
what was his first year there? Let's see No, he left The Jets
in so Al grow was in 2000. All right.
So if you go to 2000, so yeah, I think his first year was 5 and
11, right and then eleven wins 9/14/14 dynasty well off and
running right. But if you go to like a couple
of years before that, you know, they were eight and eight the
year before he got there competitive.
The year before that they were nine and seven.
The year before that they were ten and six.
And the year before that, I was with Parcells.
They were 11:00 and 5:00. So what he inherited with the
Pats was nowhere comparable to what Bill inherited with The
Jets. And like this is all about, I'd
say just tuning in, I started the conversation about what
Belichick saying about he thinks it should be the Tom Brady
trophy and and I get it. And there is merit to that.
But if nobody had the conversation, you know, about
turning it into the Joe Montana Trophy back then when Joe went
to four Super Bowls and never lost, you know, I don't think we
need to do it now with Tom Brady.
If you want to make another award after him, that's fine.
But it's got to stay the Lombardi Trophy.
That's my opinion on that. And I'm open, I'm open to the
conversation. I'm not so married to everything
from back in the day where I'm like, Nope, resistant, can't
listen to it, not interested. I'm interested.
I just don't think that that one, I want to say it doesn't
make sense because I think it does on certainly on some level.
I would not do it. And there's no way the NFL is
going to do it. Bill Walsh was thought of as the
best coach of his time by his peers.
Yeah, most dominant team in the 80s and the 90s era for sure.
Well, I mean, Dallas is pretty good as well with all those
championships. But yes, Charlie checks in there
what Bill Walsh was thought to be and and I would agree with
this was the most innovative. Like you still, when you you
think about the the West Coast offense and there's so many
variations of it now, like that's that's an innovative mind
that was able to really change the NFL.
Like if you think about and that's hard to do, like how many
coaches in any sport, there's a lot of great coaches, right?
Like you can tell me. I'm going to take Steve Kerr,
right. All right, Steve Kerr won a ton,
you know, all time dynasty for a couple years, Warriors, right?
But did Steve Kerr change the NBA?
No, Steph Curry changed the NBA in terms of shooting prowess,
right? Gregg Popovich, Popovich, great
coach Duncan, you know, all time one of the top three or four NBA
coach NBA coaches of all time, right?
Did he change the NBA? No, he didn't change the NBA.
But I think if you look at Bill Walsh, he changed the NFL.
I even think that, you know, the Buffalo Bills, what they were
running, even though they didn't have any championships there.
I, I think that, you know, in terms of innovation and how they
would spread things out the run and shoot offense.
I think they changed the outfit that you, the oil Oilers a
little bit. I can't really speak to the
hockey aspect of it. Baseball, that's really hard to
change. Maybe you want to look at who
really leaned on analytics first, which is pretty much
thought to be somebody like Tony Larussa.
But I think even that that's a stretch to to say and and and by
the way, so did so did Buck Showalter very reliant on the
binder and eventually as an extension of that, the numbers.
But I think, you know, as as I think about this out loud, you
know who who changed sport the most at the professional level.
I would even say that Walsh changed it more than Parcells,
who to me is the greatest coach I ever saw, changed it more than
Lombardi. I know that they had that one
running play that nobody could stop.
I get it. But, you know, no free agency.
The league was a little bit different.
Not trying to discredit Lombardi, but I think that that
matters. Belichick didn't change the NFL.
Yeah, I I think that he's the greatest offensive innovator.
Pioneer mind that the game's ever seen and you know he's
never been recognized on that level so I don't really think
Tom Brady should be recognized on that level but it's
interesting. That's interesting.
All right, Jay. What else do we have here today
Anything else, buddy? What do we got got our friend
STSTS in the house St. now I've heard that STS got some issues
with me checking in from London about my takes on the the
gluttony of the NFL with all these international games.
What's up man? We OK?
What's going? Yeah, I'm all good, brother.
How are you? I'm good.
No, I'm making sure you and I are OK.
We OK? We're good, right buddy?
Like, like I said this, I didn't want to debate you.
I just wanted to try to convince you and other people to kind of
look at it from a different lens.
And I know, I know that you got a move calls, but I'll try my
best because I listened to the snippet, the clip about five
times just to make sure I heard everything clear.
And you made a lot of valid points.
Just let me put that there. I think the best the genesis of
this conversation between us. BT I think I would say this is
very simple. You mentioned earlier in the
show that the NFL is quite niche.
My friend, that is niche no more.
Apart from you know, ultra processed fast food which we all
look, know and love. The NFL is the United States
greatest export and there's a reason why the NFL is the most
money making sports league on the planet even though it is not
globally consumed. You, you people ask why it costs
up in excess of seven to 10 million for a slot on the Super
Bowl. There's your there's your answer
why. Yep.
And I, and I just want to give you kind of a bit of insight
Like I've, I've, I've basically gone to damn near as much as I
can every NFL game in London. I know you love the London
Games. I do.
Props you for that, I do.
But what? But what?
What? What you don't see or what you
may see is that you know, the the type of people that are
coming there. We're talking about people from
all over the continent. I've I've had plenty of beers
and conversations with people from Hungary, with people from
Deutschland, with people from even Italians are coming over
here like wanting to consume the NFL.
And, you know, the demand is so big that, you know, Goodell and
the powers that be had to rise above that.
I mean, people travel all over the world to see the NFL.
And the what's what's special about it is that you get the
diehards, that not everyone has the disposable income as you had
mentioned in your clip. But like, you know, some diehard
Steelers fans are going to flood Paris this year.
And the Marines are? Going to love it.
But you know. I I met, I met this older
couple. It was years ago when, you know,
you mentioned rivalry games, when it was The Jets, Dolphins
at Wembley, and we won. I remember they they, they, they
were like, yeah, Fitzpatrick went off.
Yeah. Yeah.
He's great. But they were, they were saying
to me, they're like. Oh, you know.
This was just another excuse for us to come to London and da da,
da, da, I was. It just brought like smiles to
my face. And they, what's his name?
Ryan Reinhard was his name from where is he from?
Frankfurt. The man just loves NFL and
that's why it is continued to go on and go further.
And you, you know, you mentioned they are greedy.
Like listen, we don't even have to talk about the money issue we
get. That's a given.
We all know. Yeah, we, we get it just as you
said my friend, but it's like, you know, I, I think about the,
the people, you know, that consume this sport a lot like
Sky Sports over here we have Dominican Sue is one of our main
broadcasters, Jason Bell over here.
These guys are getting paid to talk about the games that they
televised. But diehards like me have NFL
game Pass, so I got 4 screens on at the same time.
And of course, as you know, the NFL season never ends so I'm
always watching G Good morning football, so on and so forth.
I think what's, what's interesting about the Australia
game for me is that there are lots of Kiwis, you know, the All
Blacks, the rugby, they are like the most successful sport team
in history. They absolutely love the NFL.
And it's just a hop, skip and a jump for them to go consume that
in Australia. And I, I, I, it warms my heart
personally because it is literally my favorite sport.
I live, sleep, eat and breathe the NFL.
And to see it being embraced while, you know, when I first
moved to London, everyone's like, oh, egg ball, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. You know.
Every, everybody, every. It shouldn't be called football,
should be called egg ball. But now that everybody is just
loving it, I mean, you know, you go to Texas all the time with
your father-in-law. The the day FA game in Mexico,
in Mexico makes absolute sense because that is cowboy nation.
No, it is it is. They can't get enough of them
boys. So Yep, Yep.
Oh, let me just say one thing. It's SD all ahead, please.
Yeah, I talked a lot. No, no, it's all good.
The salient points. And I'm with you, obviously the
economic growth, all that stuff. And I wrote this down and you
said it pretty early. So I want, I wanted to be able
to get back because you said that the demand was there.
Well, when you say that I, the response has been there, I would
challenge you and say I don't think that the demand was
necessarily there because that means or you and you would be
insinuating that people were clamoring in Australia or Rio de
Janeiro or Paris. We want foot.
No, I think the NFL just took it, brought it there and they
have been receptive to it. But I don't saying that they
were screaming and begging for it.
So the demand, I wouldn't use the word demand.
I would it just myself. That's just my opinion.
You know what? And that makes sense.
And actually, there's no way I can prove that having heard you.
But don't you believe, because I know that Game Pass is
accessible in all of these countries in their currency,
Don't you think there's some metrics and analytics at the NFL
had kind of deeped over and say, right, these IP addresses are
consuming lots and lots of football?
To an extent, yeah. Yeah, to an extent.
I mean, that's. I agree.
I agree with you. I agree with you.
I just wanted to kind of push back.
On that I got you. And I think, I think when I say
demand, even though it might be the wrong word to use, it's only
based off of what I see when I see people from different
countries literally flocking to the NFL just to see games, You
know, when it wasn't 9 games, when it was only three and we
had all three of them. London, when I saw that, it was
just like, these guys get it, man.
It's like they get it, you know? And because you know, people not
not a lot of people are consuming baseball, I believe
say in Greece, but they are the NFL baseball over here in the UK
is actually getting is on the rise.
And I know it is. And I know.
And I, and I wish, you know, you talk about rivalry games.
Guess who was at London Stadium watching the Sox and the
Yankees? Oh, you went to that?
You know, yeah, and, and and the Cardinals and the Cubs, yeah,
man, those, I wish they would bring them back.
Almost. But I and the Mets and the
Phillies didn't. The Mets and the.
Phillies go out there as well. They did.
Yeah, you're right. Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, absolutely right. And I and you know, like the the
other thing is you know this guy, you might not know him
anyway. He plays for Wells.
He's a winger, Luis Reed Zammit. He loves the NFL.
He actually left, quit his international career and quit
his IT and quit his club career over in the Rugby Premiership,
the Gallagher Premiership over here to actually go to the
combine in the. NFL, I didn't know that yeah,
yeah, he got. He got signed, the Chiefs tried
to deploy him as AI, think was it wide out first, No running
back first because he's a winger.
So he's really, really slippery and fast.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then they used him on special
teams, but then they cut him in the end.
I mean, obviously you would know that rugby and NFL football are
two different sports, but it just for for for an absolute
blazing young kid like this Zanet to like just fob off his
career in rugby to go chase his dream of playing in the NFL.
That's got to get. That's got to say something.
It does. It does.
But again and NST good call man. I'll check in.
Check back in. Good call.
Good things to chew on. I like the counterpoints.
We agree on a lot of the stuff, but I'm I'm happy you made the
call. Yeah, it's not about thank you
for doing that. It's not about the viability.
Those are two very different things.
When when I talked about this the other day, it's me pushing
back on how American fans are in my opinion, being penalized, not
that it's not working overseas and the globalization of the
game is a waste of time and it's not good and they're not making
money And you know in 1520 years even less that residually don't
they won't read the rewards of you know this early plan that
they've hatched to expand the game globally.
All those things are happening. I understand that that's very
easy basic stuff to comprehend. This goes back to, I guess,
what's the limit, man? Like, what's the limit?
And to me, when you take a game away from Lambeau Field or, you
know, Cowboy Stadium or Heinz Field or Arrowhead or some of
these, I mean, listen, you can take them from MetLife all you
want, but I mean, like some of the real good venues and great,
you know, fabled fan bases in the NFL.
To me now, you do what a disservice to the people who
built the league. And that that's all I'm saying.
And you know, I did this the other day, right?
The growth is it's impressive for sure.
And the response has been impressive for sure.
But I just wonder what the limit is because when they when they
broached the concept, this came up in the early 2000s where they
were thinking about this. And the first time they did this
was in 2005. They had one game and it was
obviously in London. And I'm like, oh, that's, that's
unique, that's cool, that's appealing. 6 hours from New
York. All right, logistically makes
sense. All right.
I like it. Football early on a Sunday, I'll
take it once in a while. Then the next year.
And I don't know the reason why there were none.
And then, you know, they were still very conservative in 2007.
They had won and then for the next 5 years, it was 208-0910,
eleven and 1222222. And again, they were just kind
of sticking their toe in it, you know, throwing a line out there,
seeing if you get a nibble, early stages, early phase of
rolling this out. And then they started to all
right, hey, listen, this is gone.
Well, let's try another one. And then in 2013 and 2014, they
had three international games. And guess what?
And 2015. So they had three straight years
where they went from 2:00 to 3:00.
Then what do you know? I mean, now it's like, hey,
let's push it to four, which is what they did in 2014.
But now we got four games, all right?
Now it's a little nuts here, in my opinion.
And then in 2017, they had five. And now it's like really a
little cavalier in my opinion. Again, not everybody shares that
opinion, but that's fine. And then for whatever reason,
they they regressed, they went back to three, then COVID hit.
Then they had, you know, a soft relaunch, if you will, where in
2021 they had two international games and then right away it
went to four. And then it's 2023 and 2024 went
to five and then it went to seven and now it's up to 9.
So my question is my only contention, my only problem with
this, you know, SD is not the economic viability or the growth
of the game, but at what point are the American consumers,
those who helped really truly build the sport, being penalized
to a point where it's unfair? And I believe we're crossing
that boundary when the Chiefs lose the home game or, you know,
you had the Eagles and the Packers playing Brazil.
I mean, come on. I mean, and then we're hold on.
And some of these other games, too.
The problem is that some of these other games are going to
really, you know, in large part, you know, determine, you know,
divisional supremacy. Where the hell is that?
I got so many. No, I can't find it.
But from the other day, you know, if you want to put like an
obscure match up out there just to kind of all right, you give
them something. Not that the fans of the teams
that don't matter wouldn't be pissed off.
They would. But you don't have to send them
like Chiefs, Chargers or, you know, Chargers, Raiders or
Niners Seattle or Niners, Rams, Niners, Rams going out to
Australia, right? Week one, Week 1, they've got to
go to or think about the logistical impact flying out and
the Niners based on their schedule and and what they've
got to do this year. Like the mileage count is just,
I don't think it's healthy on the body.
I mean, that's not really my concern, but it's an aspect of
it that they don't consider because they don't care.
That's why there's now 17 games and then they'll be 18 and
before you know what, there will be 20.
So this is me just just checking the NFL little bit.
You guys don't have to accept it.
You don't have to agree. I'm not trying to shove it down
your throat. All I'm merely doing is
illuminating. Understand what's happening to
you year by year by year by year.
Take a little more, take a little more, take a little more,
take a little more. And you're going to look up at
some point and it's really going to be barely recognizable.
It's going to be a shell of what it once was.
And if you're OK with that, that's fine.
I'm not here to convert you now. You do what you want.
I'm just telling you I don't like it.
I really don't. I really don't like it.
You know, if like are we going to get to a point now,
eventually my Jets will be competent and as you know, I
think they'll be a little bit more competitive this year.
They better win that first game against the Titans.
If they if you don't beat Robert Sala and Tennessee, who's not
going to be very good this year. I don't think that's going to be
a rough tone for the season, man.
But either way, like eventually The Jets will be good.
I mean, if The Jets were like really good now, like they if,
say, if they were the Bills and The Jets were playing the Bills
or the Pats or another really good AFC team, the Ravens,
somebody like that in Australia or in Greece or in Paris, I
mean, I would be incensed. Like this is tame right now.
I'm just trying to be the good guy protecting you, the American
football fan, while also seeing the global benefits.
But if this intimate when this intimately impacts me and I know
they played the Dolphins overseas and the Falcon, like I
know they've gone overseas, obviously, but they've been so
bad it hasn't mattered. You know, there's going to be a
year where The Jets have finally had their franchise quarterback
and are messing around and winning 1213 games and have a
chance to get to the Super Bowl. And if one of those games is Jit
Ho, 15 hours away, 6000 miles away, whatever it is, and just
throwing numbers out, I'm going to be pissed because it's going
to be a competitive disadvantage.
That's all. So I'm just separating the the
epic, the economic viability, which everybody can understand
because it's pure irrefutable mathematical data.
And in the other hand, I'm just like, yo, understand what
they're doing. Understand 7's going to be 9,
which it is, 9's going to be 1111's, going to be 15.
And then before you know it, there will be expansion and
there will be multiple non American teams.
And if you're OK with that, great, that's fine.
If you're OK with an international Super Bowl, fine.
You have more limits than me. I don't want to see that.
And I mean Jay. Straight up.
We've got a couple more calls.
All right, let's get them up real quick.
I got a couple things. I got to take the kids to the
orthodontist today. Oh, I see no fun.
Yeah, let's get the calls, man. Yeah, toss it in.
And then they just got to. Toss it up, Toss it in.
Let me begin. Yep.
Who do we? Got We've got Charlie from Pearl
River, NY. Charlie and Pearl River, home of
the the Irish police officer right there.
Charlie, what's going on, man? How you doing, BT Great show.
Just wanted to say yeah, I was just listening to you talk about
the NFL going overseas and whatnot.
What do you I just wanted to ask what do you think the the
ultimate end goal is for the NFL?
Is it to is it to add teams overseas?
I know like the Jaguars, the Jaguar owner wanted to, you
know, was. Shot Khan.
Yes, I heard, you know, he's very interested in going to
London. Yes, absolutely.
And do they plan on doing that? And like you said, it's, you
know, right now with the way travel is and everything, and I
mean, that seems to be like a big disadvantage some for
certain teams. Well, think about this Charlie
and I'll let you finish. So.
So there is a disadvantage. What do I think my ultimate for?
A couple things here. What do I think the ultimate
goal of the NFL? I at this point, I think their
ultimate goal is to play a game on Mars.
That's what I'm starting to think #1 #2 like the travel and
the logistics, which is a competitive disadvantage is one
thing for whatever teams have. And the Jaguars will be 1.
I think that eventually, you know, move off American soil.
But what about the disadvantage in terms of attracting free
agents? Like, think about that now, you
might say some people might think it's glamorous, like, but
if, if I was born and raised, you know, where I was born and
raised and I was in the NFL, whether I was playing for The
Jets, the Giants or the Chiefs or the Raiders or or the Rams,
I, I think I'd want to stay in the United States.
I, I don't think that I would, you know, there's the kids
schools and there's just a lot to consider.
So I just think they're going to keep going and keep pushing.
I do think that there will be teams in, in Europe.
I do think there will be an international venue for a Super
Bowl. And I think that's just the
start of it. And I think other start of other
teams and other sports will start doing it more and we will
become ultimately desensitized to it where it becomes
normalized. So that's why I'm in the early
stages of pushing back just so people know where I stand.
But it's going to happen. Yeah, 100%.
I agree with you. And also just another thing too,
if they they expand to Europe, what about if they expand to
South America or Australia? I mean, now you're talking like,
you know, how, how could they possibly even do?
That I don't, I don't, I don't know that I mean to expand to
Australia. It seems to me while I guess
nothing's impossible with advancements in in travel.
I mean that seems incredibly far fetched.
But thanks for making the the call there, Charlie, but you
never know who knows what they're craft and appreciate it.
Who's up next there, Jay? Fire him up.
Buddy got our buddy. Benji.
Benji, Benji, What up, Benj? I think Benji, is your mic
muted? Sorry about that.
Hey BT, what's? Up, man.
Hey, I'm doing good, man. I think I spoke too soon on the
Yankee stuff with the Freed injury, but hopefully it's minor
and it's. Just I'm not too worried.
I'm not nothing yet, though today I'm not.
I'm not worried. I'm worried about the offense,
which is kind of gross to watch every day, but I'm not worried
about Freed. Yeah, even my kids know Jaycee
Ascara is kind of terrible. But yeah, I'm more worried about
Wells because he plays more. That's true.
He's been brutal this year. Well, he's got three home runs,
five RBI. He's terrible, but terrible on
our Knicks. So I what an amazing result last
night. Now if the Cavs can seal the
deal here and end this series on Friday, it it opens up so many
possibilities for me on a schedule level.
Like you, I'm a father. I've got 2 two boys it free it,
it just makes number one. I know I'll be there on Sunday,
which is glorious. So there's that's non
negotiable. And then #2 I'm heading out east
for Memorial Day, as I always do, to open up the summer.
And the Tuesday to Saturday break is glorious because it
creates no travel issues, no delays, and.
Well, what do you mean Tuesday to Saturday?
You're not off. You're not off.
Wednesday, Thursday. Oh, there are, yes.
That's true. I mean no.
You're right. That's the in, in, in both
possibilities here. Hold on.
I do have a screenshot. I wanted to.
I want to make sure we're buttoned up on this.
Hold on. I thought I sent it.
I had it somewhere. I had it last night.
I thought I sent it to myself. Here we go.
Thought I sent it to myself. Jared, did I sent it to you?
I, I had it. How did I send it?
Damn. Either way of the two scenarios,
because there's still 2 versions here, there's only one situation
where there would be and I don't like 3 days.
I know it seems to fit your schedule 3 days kind of getting
out of the flow a little bit there.
Give me the two days. Everything else is out.
It's one day, but then there would be the three days.
You're right. And one of the scenarios, yes,
it's. Perfect when when you're someone
like myself and it and it's and it's a whole journey in itself
just to get to watch the games. It that stuff is important.
But as far as the Cavs go, amazing match up for us.
I mean, look, we're gonna bludgeon whoever is in front of
us. But with the Cavs, I'm just not.
They never scare me. They scare me a little bit more
with Hardin versus Garland. But they they do have more
obviously offensive players that are that are that are worth
noting than Detroit, right? Detroit has nothing.
The Cavs have Struce that, you know, they have Merrill, they
have back. Struce from DePaul.
I remember watching him against St.
John's when he was at DePaul and and obviously with the Heat
before this team. But I'm like, this guy's an NBA
player. I remember he dropped 40 against
St. John's.
Like this guy's good. He say he saved the Cavs last
night and he makes key plays. As we know back in his Heat
days, he always tortured us. So, look, we're rolling, man.
It's an amazing matchup. The stars are aligning, all the
the Nick haters are getting their their scrapbooks out to
make the excuses. But whatever it is, we're going
to take care of business in front of us.
Now for Game 1. You know, my wife is for game
one. She's got the game ones.
She went to one of Atlanta, game one of of the Philly series,
both wins. I mean, she comes back for
Sunday, assuming they seal the deal.
Now, Tuesday, game 28P, likely an 8 PM 8:09 PM tip off.
I am summoning Brandon Tierney to join me here for a game two
of the Eastern Conference Finals.
Let's get this done. Oh my God, Bench.
Magical journey and let's roll. OK, here's what we're going to
do When you hang up, get your number.
First of all, give your phone number to J Rod.
Number one. Gotcha.
All right #2. Toss it in the private chat.
We're getting serious now. Yeah.
Don't put, don't chat it for the whole world.
Otherwise everybody's going to be knocking your door down,
trample me and they want to go with you.
Tuesday. What's the date on that?
I know what's coming up next. What's the exact date again?
It is May 19. It's either going to be a 7:00
PM or an 8:00 PM tip. Based on my experience, I think
it'll probably be 8:00 PM. Let's see, I'm looking at the
schedule. All right, practice.
This is all just for Tuesday. Practice, practice, basketball
game for my son. I'm not coaching that night,
that is. This might be happening dude.
This the cosmic might be happening.
Cosmic stars are aligning. All the Cavs have to do is win a
basketball game at home, get to the Eastern Conference finals,
and we're ready to get to the Finals ourselves and make this
magical journey continues. This is you.
You're the best man. Make sure you give him your
number and. Yeah, that number in the.
Chat got you. Yeah, not, not in the chat.
Not in the, not in the chat. Chat the private chat.
You know, private chat real quick.
Benj. And then you and I will hook up
all fair. He'll shoot me a number.
I'll shoot you mine. What?
Just give me an answer. Give me a number if if it's the
Cavs, Knicks win. In how many games in your
opinion fast go? I want to say 4 but I say 54.
Wow, if it's the Knicks, win in. I want to say 5, but it's going
to be 6. All right.
So you're a little more fearful, the Pistons, which I kind of
get. They're dirty.
Yeah, that's OK.
So we're dirty, too, man. Mitch could get in those weeds.
We can get a little dirty. Josh Hart, McHale Bridges, How's
that happened back to me? How's that feel there?
Indeed, we could be a little dirty as well.
But I hear you. They try to be dirty with my guy
cat and and get them frustrated, but that's not even going to
happen because the Cavs are going to close this out on
Friday and we're. Going to we just got to make
sure Cat gets back to not picking up all these fouls.
He's starting to go back into that routine and I'm not going
to start bagging on him because he's been great.
But I would like to see this trend end immediately.
Benji, I'll talk to you probably later.
I'll shoot you a text. All right.
Thanks BT appreciate it man. Thank you, man.
How awesome is that J Rod? What are you kidding?
Me. Come on now, get this.
Get this guy out of the ECFI used.
To go to Nick playoff games all the time with my dad.
Oh man, really? Yeah, Dang, yeah, I used to go.
We used to go. I mean, not just playoff games,
but I remember he'd always get tickets like, oh man, I would
say 5-6 games like December, January.
And I, I like remember seeing up on the little scoreboard at the
Garden. Like they would, I mean, it was
the older Garden. It was just like, you know, it
wasn't visually or aesthetically, you know,
beautiful like it is now, although back then it seemed
pretty futuristic. Either way, it would tell you
who's coming into town. Like, you know, Nick's warriors.
I'm like, oh, Mullins coming into town, you know, his only
trip here or Nick's Bulls. Oh, Dad, we got to get, we got
to go watch Jordan. You know, it's funny.
I, I used to go a lot and sometimes we had amazing seats.
We never had horrendous seats, but he always got pretty good
tickets. God bless him, man.
And I remember one time, I don't think I've ever told you the
story. I'm going to keep it short and
then I'm going to bounce. So Bill Cartwright, a big gangly
centre who was actually pretty good third overall pick out of
San Francisco back in the day for the Knicks, right?
Either way, and this is not him early, this is him right before
he was kind of dealt in that Oakley trade, Nick fans rolled
over him and his nickname was Medical Bill because he was
always hurt. Bill Carr.
Medical Bill was actually pretty witty.
I remember reading that in the papers when I was young.
So what I would do is like, and you could do this at the Garden
back in the day. You can't do it now because it's
just too much security. I, I would say I was probably
like 10-11. I'd say, Dad, I'm going to go
watch the layup line. I'll be right back.
He'd be like, yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
He didn't even worry about anything.
So I'd run down and I'd get pretty close to the court man.
And I remember like sometimes I get the occasional fist bump,
very rare once or twice. And then I I went back to the
seat and this one night the fans were just, I mean, all over him.
Cartwright would have having a rough game.
I think he picked up fouls, he missed a dunk, just a rough
night. And he really was a nice guy.
I kind of felt bad for him. Patrick was already there.
So he would they were trying to do that twin tower experiment
with Hubie Brown, which didn't work out either way.
Then what I would do at halftime is I would run to the tunnel
right, instead of the layup, I'd run to the tunnel right by the
Marty Glickman radio booth. And I would like really get high
fives, right? And then, you know, sometimes
like I'd lean over and I'd get a little bit too close.
And one time the cop was like, I, oh, I mean, actually more
than once. All right, kid, you know, you
get a little come on, come on, go back to your seat.
You have a ticket. No, all right, go back.
And, and I remember, so I was kind of used to the deal.
So whenever then of course I'm going to respect the officer.
I'd wait 10, you know, 10 more seconds.
But whenever he'd say, all right, kid, you got to go, I'd
string it out. Then I'd leave.
And this one time he's like, hey, you got to, you know, kid,
kid, kid. And I'm like, I know I'm going.
He goes, no, no, he goes this night where they were booing
Bill Cartwright. This is a true story, hand to
Bible. He goes, hey, he goes, this is
from Bill Cartwright and he throws me up Bill Cartwright's
white towel that he had on the Knick bench, bro, and it had a
NYK stamped on it. It was an official.
Towel for the Knicks and I, I don't I don't know how Bill
picked me. I don't know how that happened
because, yeah, I was 10 or 11, wasn't that loud.
I wasn't sitting on the court, that's for sure.
I don't even. It was like the mean Joe Green
commercial with the Coca-Cola with the kid in the in the
tunnel, the old one from like the late 70s, early 80s.
And can I tell you for like that, first of all, that entire
year, I would come out of a CYO game and I would wrap that towel
around my neck. Oh.
That's too cool. How great of a story is that?
That's great. True story.
Dude the only guy the only guy I've met out of game is I have a
pick from when I'm like 16 with scalabrini.
That's hilarious. Scalabrady Dang.
White Jesus Scalabrady. Yes.
Sir. Yes, Sir, man.
Jeez. What was his what was his other
nickname? Yeah, White.
Mamba. He's the white mamba.
No, that's what I say. White cheese.
No, white cheese. I knew that didn't sound white.
Yes. The white mamba.
That's right, the white mamba. Oh my God, he's funny.
He does a show with. Frankie Oh no red.
The red mamba was Matt Bonner. Matt Bonner from Florida.
Yeah, I played it you. Played for the play for the
Spurs. All I know is.
What I'm saying, but he right in collegiate he played for Gators,
I played for things, so I'm pretty sure he did.
He had a brother too, Bonner, right, didn't he?
What's his name? Yeah, I mean, neither of them
were, you know, stars of any probably.
I guess Matt Bonner did like that free throw line dunk during
the dunk contest. I don't even remember that, but
no, Brent Barry did that back. Oh, Brent Barry did that with
the Clippers. Yes, yes.
Yeah, no, not Bonner. I don't think Bonner was doing
that. Bonner's lucky if he's squeaking
one down. I I remember him dunking too
much. All right, man, let me bounce.
Hey, shoot me Benjy's number. I think I'm gonna have to.
He got me his e-mail, so I'll send you that.
I don't know if he's sending me the phone number, but we'll.
I got you. Take care of that.
I got you. Good.
Good job today, Jay. Rod, appreciate it, buddy.
If you guys missed the Aaron Boone interview, obviously you
know, some of the stuff is, is potentially a little dated.
I mean, unless, unless healed, pardon me, unless Max Freed is
really hurt because he talked a lot about Weathers and talked a
lot about, you know, Warren who who's more equipped to move to
the pen. You know any aversion to maybe
having 60% of rotation lefties, which is what you would have
with Freed, Rodon and Weathers if it is Warren to the pen,
Talked about Jazz, talked about Volpe, talked about Lombard.
You got to see this for yourself.
What he told me about George Lombard to me gives me no doubt
that Lombard will be in the Yu this year.
He will be playing for the Yankees and I believe he will be
playing in October. So if you missed Boone
yesterday, it was great. We had a lot of different stuff.
Go check it out. Some of the other stuff I know
Joe came up today. If you missed the Joe B
interview, check that out. I got to maybe follow up if
there's any interest on their on the Rothenberg angle, pop him on
the show, get to know him a little bit.
Try to squash the. Beef with Jerry and and
Rothenberg. So everybody have a great
Thursday. I am back tonight at 8:00 with
myself and Jake Asmin and Rich Simini.
The Jets Collective episode #8 breaking down the entire Jets
schedule. We know that they'll be in
Tennessee week one. We know, or at least we strongly
think they'll be home to the Packers Week 2.
And then all the other stuff, no international trips.
Thank God for The Jets this year.
But we'll flush through it. So check that out tonight.
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