1 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:11,960 leash Are you listening? Can you hear me? 2 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:13,200 Hear me? This is on leash. 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:14,520 Are you listening? Can you hear me? 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,000 Hear me? This is on leash Are you 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,000 listening? Can you hear me? 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:18,480 Hear me? This is on leash Are you 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:19,520 listening? Can you hear me? 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,440 J Rod cooking up a little extra juice for the open. 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,640 What's going on? Everybody beats you on leash. 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,960 Here we go. Yeah. 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,400 Go New York. Go New York. 12 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,960 Go I I got to be honest with you, This is this is a very 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:40,560 straight. It's an awesome feeling, 14 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,880 absolutely awesome. It's a little bit of a strange 15 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,720 feeling, man. It's it's like it if you told me 16 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,560 at any point, at any point. I mean, even when the Knicks 17 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,080 were like amazing in the mid 90s and even getting to the Finals 18 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,040 in 99 before they got waxed by the Spurs. 19 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:00,440 I it it's just it's almost, I say, I hesitate to say this 20 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,080 because I know it's not, but it's almost too easy. 21 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:08,320 Like I almost don't know how to feel like really, the last time 22 00:01:08,320 --> 00:01:14,760 you had a sweat was the Hawks series absolutely scintillating 23 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,120 historical run by our New York Knicks. 24 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,240 Absolutely crazy, J Rod. We're certainly not used to 25 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:23,560 this, buddy. What's happening, man? 26 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:23,880 Let's. Go. 27 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,080 I mean, I cannot, I cannot believe it. 28 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,720 If you had told me, you know, at the beginning of the season that 29 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,680 this team, at the beginning of the playoff season that this 30 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,640 team would be making a Finals run, dude, I wouldn't believe 31 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,400 you. It's it's incredible. 32 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,920 And you know, I was saying this to you beforehand. 33 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,560 Knicks have made the Finals every year. 34 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,280 Unleashed has been a program. Yeah, here we go. 35 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:52,120 One for one, one for one and the Yankees making the playoffs will 36 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,040 be two for two and the Johnny's getting to the Sweet 61 for one. 37 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,680 That we can't help you with the Mets and I'm not so sure that we 38 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,360 can help you with The Jets yet, but we will worry about those 39 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,600 teams at a later date. Today is today is a massive Nick 40 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:05,920 Day. All right, let's get into it. 41 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:07,600 Hopefully everybody had a great weekend. 42 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,240 Get the calls, get the chats fired up. 43 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,280 Today's show, as always brought to you by my friends at Sullivan 44 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,560 Propane. Find sullivanonline@trialo1.com. 45 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,600 That's trialo1.com. Remember the name Sullivan 46 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,760 Propane and my Premio sausage. Premio sausage is the way 47 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,800 sausage should be found with premiofoods.com or in your local 48 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,960 grocery store. Now the one thing about this 49 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,000 business is that you cannot escape, not that I tried to. 50 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,520 You cannot escape previous takes. 51 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,440 All right. And if you were to go on my my 52 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,760 ex account and had access to what I have access to, you can 53 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,560 see it anyway. But on a deeper level, what I'm 54 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,320 actually being hit with it, it's all good. 55 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,760 Some of my old takes about the Knicks this year, I'm not 56 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,720 talking about years ago. I'm talking about this year. 57 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,040 Well, true. That's and, and I was wrong. 58 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,680 And I've always said that I will happily take the L I'm going to 59 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,080 watch. I'm going to watch what I'm 60 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,080 watching. I'm going to dissect what I'm 61 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:03,800 watching. I'm going to tell you what I 62 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,200 see. And if I'm right, I'm right. 63 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,400 If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Now, before we even get into all 64 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,400 that nonsense, and there were a lot of takes that I, you know, I 65 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,240 trust me, I wouldn't mind running away from, but I can't, 66 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,120 I'm not going to run away from this. 67 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,600 And this is not to throw shade at Tom Thibodeau, but I'll never 68 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:21,960 forget this day. This was June. 69 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,720 Get it up there Jay. This was June 4th of 2025. 70 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,840 Knicks season had just ended. Me and Sal were discussing daily 71 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,520 on WFAN. What do you do with Tom 72 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,160 Thibodeau? And I said very clearly, I 73 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,480 believe with all due respect, they should move on. 74 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,240 We went back and forth callers all over the map, a little bit 75 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,720 of some people with me, some people against me. 76 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,840 And I remember I was at a stoplight coming back from the 77 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,480 show and we had pretty much done the entire show on this 78 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,800 particular topic after the Knicks lost to the Pacers. 79 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,320 And I opened up my phone at a stoplight and I saw the news 80 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,880 that Tom Thibodeau was was relieved of his job. 81 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,120 All right, so this was my response here. 82 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,840 Obviously you guys can read, but Tibbs is a very good coach and 83 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,800 Nick for life, always going to be revered by the true fans. 84 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,480 He's also, 20 years in, has not shown the ability to deviate 85 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,160 from past stubbornness and adapting up to the modern NBA. 86 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,040 Both can be 100% true. Meaning we could have great 87 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,120 reverence, great respect, profound respect for the 88 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,600 basketball lifer and coach that Tom Thibodeau is and and was not 89 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,320 just here but other spots, but also firmly believing it was 90 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,040 time to move on. Nick's did the right thing. 91 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,800 I don't think they're here if Tom Thibodeau was still the 92 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,840 coach. Now I know they're not here if 93 00:04:39,840 --> 00:04:43,120 some of the players don't obviously step up to a level 94 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,640 that is that is inconceivable. But the reason why I think that 95 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,200 things change so much here is because everybody bought in. 96 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:51,800 It's an incredibly selfless team. 97 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,200 I remember hearing God in after a while. 98 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,720 I'm just, you know, listen, and this is not a shot at the Ogs by 99 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,920 by I mean, you love these guys, Clyde Frazier, Pearl, everybody, 100 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,280 right, Bill Bradley, the Bush or Holtzman, all those guys. 101 00:05:04,280 --> 00:05:08,840 But you know, it's like nameth with the with The Jets and you 102 00:05:08,840 --> 00:05:11,960 know, like Daryl and Doc and Keith Hernandez with the 86 103 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,880 Mets, you just get tired of living in the past. 104 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:19,000 It is exhausting. It is burdensome, it is tiring, 105 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,880 it is old, it is depressing. And as much as those 73 teams in 106 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,400 69, of course, as well, you know, last Knicks team to win in 107 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:28,680 73. Everybody knows that. 108 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,440 But I just I get the the references. 109 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:32,720 I just I don't want to hear it anymore. 110 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,360 I just, I can't it they have to finish this race. 111 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,440 The Knicks must win the championship. 112 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,200 And I'm listen, man, I'm not trying to deliver some hot take. 113 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,520 I promise you I'm not. But everything that they've done 114 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,240 in the matter in which they done it to the degree in which they 115 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,080 have obliterated everybody in their path. 116 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,640 I know the East is not as good as the West. 117 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,800 I understand that. I'm pretty sure that if the 118 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,800 Knicks were in the West, they would not have an average margin 119 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,800 of victory of 19.9 points per game. 120 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,760 I get that. But you know what, There are a 121 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,720 lot of years where you had to go through Jordan or, you know, 122 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,640 Shaq, was that over there? Or some politics teams, whatever 123 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,800 it might be. And nobody was feeling bad for 124 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,600 the Knicks that they were in the Eastern Conference when the 125 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,400 Eastern Conference was better because of Michael Jordan, even 126 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:15,880 though the West has always been pretty strong. 127 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,120 So it's, it's a little bit of everything. 128 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,880 I just, I really, I, I think I'm a pretty creative person. 129 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,240 I've got a very vivid imagination and I've had that 130 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,000 since the time I was a kid, which is one of the reasons why 131 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,120 I can remember things very, again, very vividly. 132 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,320 Some, you know, 8 ages 3 and 4, like I just, I've got these deep 133 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:40,720 imprints seared in my mind and as creative as I could be and as 134 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,800 open minded as I can be. There is no way under any 135 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,480 circumstance, no matter what you told me, no matter how much you 136 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,240 told me that the Vegas odds said XY, which none of the Vegas odds 137 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,560 said that the Knicks would play like this. 138 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,480 Nobody. I mean, it's absolutely it's 139 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,080 historical. I mean, as we heard over and 140 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,040 over and over, there is no way I could have conceived of a run 141 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:06,760 that is really without any sort of angst pressure. 142 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,760 You know, the the up and down major of being a fan outside of 143 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,360 when they lost the two games to Atlanta and then they just came 144 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,680 back and went on this absolute tirade of a run. 145 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:21,480 And This is why like it, it's kind of, I mean, it's it's 146 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,160 awesome. It is amazing, but it it was as 147 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:30,720 strange and in a good way as strange of a watch for any team 148 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,560 that I've ever rooted for in my entire life. 149 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,280 Because there's been teams that have overachieved and went a 150 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:38,960 little further than you thought. Whatever. 151 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,240 I'm not talking about that. I'm just talking about the fact 152 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,280 that right around the middle of April when this thing start 153 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,560 again, outside of the early little blip against the Hawks 154 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,720 two games in a row, there has not been a moment where you had 155 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,840 to sit back and sweat. I mean, last night, pretty much 156 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,600 the same thing, by the way I'm sitting here, I got my notes and 157 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,120 by like the third quarter, I basically put my notepad down. 158 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,320 And it's been like that because there's nothing else to write 159 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,280 because the game's an absolute rap. 160 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:09,400 And it's been like this for a month where the Knicks just 161 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:14,040 literally beat the shit out of everybody in their way. 162 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:19,000 This is just insanity. I mean, listen, I know you've 163 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,000 had you've heard all the number. I do want to take you back to 164 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,920 one point in the game because there's a couple of things that 165 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,120 that speaks to the the the connectivity of this team, which 166 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,320 I've I've used that word a lot. They are connected on such a 167 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,559 deep level. And I didn't see that for a big, 168 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,400 I saw it during the cup. Got it. 169 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,360 But even since the cup, they're playing a different brand, 170 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,880 whether it's efficiency or how they actually play schematically 171 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,480 than they were for much of the season, which is why I had some 172 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,680 takes which are clearly erroneous, flat out, straight up 173 00:08:48,680 --> 00:08:52,320 wrong, and in some cases embarrassingly laughable, which 174 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,400 I have to own. But I mean, there was just, I 175 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,640 don't know what switch they hit, what button they push, what 176 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,520 lever they reach for whatever they did. 177 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,520 This is stunning. It is absolutely stunning. 178 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:12,520 It is unfathomable to think that we have sat here for a month and 179 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:17,880 not worried once about the ultimate fate of this team. 180 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,120 Think about that. I mean, even with Ewing, they 181 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,880 lost the game to the Nets. They won an overtime against the 182 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,120 Nets back in the day, You know, even without Jordan, you had to 183 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,160 sweat it out with cool coach making that last second shot 184 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,360 when Pippin wanted to stay because he was pissed off he 185 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,160 wasn't getting the last shot. Even like when the Knicks were, 186 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,880 you know, relative to their level of of, of of greatness 187 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:44,120 back then, you know, every single every series was a battle 188 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,160 of fights scraping to get to 90 points. 189 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,400 This looks like a glorified layup line. 190 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,960 It is absolutely bonkers. Now, this is crazy. 191 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,880 So in the closeout wins, all right, we know that they won by 192 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,680 51 against Atlanta. They beat Philly by 30. 193 00:10:00,680 --> 00:10:02,880 They won by 37 last night against Cleveland. 194 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:08,920 Jalen Brunson did not play a single second, not one second in 195 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:13,480 any of those three close out games to wrap up a series. 196 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,160 Not a second. I mean, not it's just this 197 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,520 doesn't happen. It doesn't happen. 198 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,080 We can watch the Knicks for 50 more years. 199 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,360 This will never happen again. But last night, this speaks to 200 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,400 their character, right? So you knew you were going to 201 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:28,760 get well. You thought you were going to 202 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,320 get hit with your best shot. Cavaliers, what a strange team. 203 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,360 You know, the analytics and I like Atkinson, they they've said 204 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,200 weird things. They played lazy, they played 205 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:38,560 soft. That's not our problem. 206 00:10:38,560 --> 00:10:41,040 That's stairs. But I really did think that the 207 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:45,640 Cavaliers were going to give you absolutely everything that they 208 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,360 had last night. And they came out, they knocked 209 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:48,960 down some shots. They took a little lead there, 210 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,640 right. Mitchell played well and they 211 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,200 said it on the broadcast last night too. 212 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,400 Like his numbers were really good, but there was no juice. 213 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,600 Like there was no big moment where I Mitchell's going to go 214 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,840 for 45 and just pull this team across the finish line and stave 215 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,440 off the firing squad for a night. 216 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,960 But there was a moment where where in the that was a third, 217 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:12,200 obviously third quarter. Yeah, Cavs cut it to 7256 and it 218 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,240 was, and I remember I just circled the sequence and it's 219 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:15,800 literally the last thing that I wrote, right? 220 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,760 The they cut it to 7256, the Knicks were up by 20 plus 221 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,080 points. They start chiseling away a 222 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,200 little bit, a little energy in the building. 223 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,760 A lot of Knick fans, what do you know, another venue, another 224 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,760 series, Knick fans take over. It's that's another part of it. 225 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,560 Knicks fans do whatever the hell they want. 226 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,680 They're walking into the homes. They're not even putting their 227 00:11:33,680 --> 00:11:36,120 feet up on the couches of the opponent's. 228 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,560 They are going and sleeping in the opponent's beds quite 229 00:11:39,560 --> 00:11:43,200 comfortably. It's crazy, but when they made 230 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,680 their when they when they when they made that little tiny push 231 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,600 and I wasn't worried. I'm like, I let's just see what 232 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,960 happens here. Cat blocks a shot and then a 233 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,680 little later down the other end of the floor, that sequence cats 234 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:56,920 hits A3. Cat hits a three and then Mobley 235 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,360 misses a three and then bridges sticks to three from the corner 236 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,000 on a beautiful. I think I believe that was OG 237 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,080 who gave him the pass and you even heard, you know, breeze. 238 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,760 He had so much time to shoot breeze like all right, he's 239 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,880 lining up the laces, finding the seams there. 240 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,400 That's the wrap timeout Cavaliers Nick party is on 241 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:18,640 Cavalier fans go home the 76 or 7000 Knick fans who were very 242 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:23,000 loud and took over last night. I mean it it's just it's just 243 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,400 absolutely wild, man. I just you're really there's and 244 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,680 I've said this before. It's it's not it doesn't make it 245 00:12:30,680 --> 00:12:34,200 it doesn't make it not fun. It makes it challenging to 246 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:41,120 properly contextualize just how great and how how many multiple 247 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:46,440 ass kickings and soul snatchings the Knicks have delivered. 248 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,800 Like, how many? Where's the praise end? 249 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,440 They were amazing, they were sublime, they were terrific, 250 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,240 they were awesome. They were locked in, they were 251 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,080 connected. I mean, there's really nothing 252 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:02,040 else to say. You cannot play better than the 253 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,840 Knicks have played. And really the circumstances 254 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,640 now, obviously the Western Conference going to have 255 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:11,080 homecourt, OK, different travel. Obviously, you know, Cleveland's 256 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,200 a quick hop, no, an hour, 10 minutes in the air where maybe a 257 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,440 little bit more, but not much. Obviously Philly is right there. 258 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,920 You know, Atlanta's not bad going South, homecourt 259 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,280 advantage. It's it it, it's going to it's 260 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:24,760 going to be different like the Finals. 261 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,120 I think we all know that and we'll get there when we get 262 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,280 there. Personally, I want to play the 263 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,720 Spurs. I'm not, I'm not sitting here 264 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,320 pounding my chest saying bring on the Spurs. 265 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:38,200 That's the championship route. But of the two, I would rather 266 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,200 play the Spurs and take my chance with with them. 267 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,440 Because think about this really for two reasons. 268 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,440 And not to get too far ahead of myself, but you know, there's 269 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,040 championships and then there's championships. 270 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,520 Like when you beat a Jordan or you beat a Bird or you beat a 271 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,160 Magic or you beat a Kobe and you beat a Shaq and you beat, if the 272 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:00,400 Knicks are to play the Spurs number one, if you're ever going 273 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,120 to play Wembe in the NBA Finals, you better get them now. 274 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,120 Because once that young buck gets some man man muscle on them 275 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,080 instead of being a little bean pole and he still, even as a 276 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,320 bean pole, he's a massive problem. 277 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,120 You're not winning. Like Wembe's about to have the 278 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,800 entire league on lock for a decade now. 279 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,640 He's very tall and there's a very short list of players that 280 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,080 tall that play, you know, 1518 years. 281 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,120 You have a lot of foot issues, you know, whether it's Walton, 282 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,760 Sam Bowie, not that kind of player, but still, you know, 283 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,360 even Patrick was limping toward the end. 99 was a bit peased in 284 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,400 play in the in the finals there, you know, jacked up lower, lower 285 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,600 calf there. But to me, number one, I think 286 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,040 it's a better match up. The Spurs don't have that 287 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,400 championship pedigree yet. But also think about if the 288 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,040 Knicks were to beat, were to face the Spurs were. 289 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,160 And again, I'll do more of this as we get closer to who. 290 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:53,720 Let's see who we're playing first. 291 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,800 I'm just giving you my initial thought, like the historical 292 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:01,960 context of punctuating a season with all these records that the 293 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:06,400 Knicks have. And you beat somebody who is, I 294 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,640 mean, if he stays healthy, he's destined to be a top 567 player. 295 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,720 That that's that's how good Wembe is. 296 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:17,640 So it's like beating Russell or Kareem or MJ or Bird or Magic or 297 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,680 LeBron, Like that's what it comes to. 298 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,440 But that's down the road, down the road. 299 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,640 So J Rod, check this out man, check this out. 300 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,240 We got the 2017 Warriors. We know about them all time 301 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,000 phenomenal 115 straight, longest win streak NBA playoff history 302 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,840 got the Spurs in 99112 straight. The Knicks right now. 303 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,440 Now again, they if they if they keep winning, they can actually 304 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,200 surpass everybody. Not that they're going to sweep 305 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,600 the finals, but like if they win four more, I mean to get into a 306 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:50,400 point where it's like, OK, the 2025 Knicks, the 2001 Lakers and 307 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,560 the 1989 Lakers all won eleven straight. 308 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:58,960 Think about that verified air. Think about that, the magnitude 309 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,480 of of God. Is insane. 310 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,840 Wow. Now really, I don't give a shit 311 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,160 if they want every like, I just need a championship. 312 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:07,880 I don't care if they want every other. 313 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:12,280 I don't need all these records. I need a championship is what I 314 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,080 need. And we had Joe on the show. 315 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,720 Joe B and Joe Nail. And that's exactly what he says. 316 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,400 Like don't give me the bullshit. Give me a championship. 317 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,320 It's got to be a championship. They have to win. 318 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,600 They must win. And I feel like they're I feel 319 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,720 and I don't get wrapped up in this much. 320 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,520 I don't because you can't quantify it. 321 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,280 A lot of times the mind and the fandom kind of lead you in a 322 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,680 direction that is not always accurate because the, the mind 323 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,080 like the hope, all right, and the excitement sometimes 324 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,640 overtakes the logic. Like first, I am curious to see 325 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,200 who's going to be favored. If it's the Spurs, I mean, it's 326 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,840 probably even money. I, I don't know, maybe, maybe 327 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,440 slight, maybe maybe the spurs -130 like it's going to be very 328 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:56,680 close. They're not going to be, they're 329 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,200 not going to be -300 like the Knicks were against the Cavs. 330 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,280 If it's say, if the Thunder win two in a row and they look 331 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,480 phenomenal, they've got the championship chops, you got the 332 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,200 MVP, maybe it's a little bit higher, but I don't care about 333 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,720 that. Like aesthetically in terms of 334 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,440 winning. I just want to win now. 335 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:20,640 Aesthetics do matter when you're trying to formulate an opinion 336 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,560 on whether or not whatever team we're talking about, we think 337 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,240 that they've got the ability to win. 338 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,840 And I'm telling you right now, you guys can send me as many 339 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:34,720 clipped whatever of me saying whatever or screenshots of some 340 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,160 of the dopey takes now that I've had do you? 341 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,600 I don't care. I don't care. 342 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:45,120 Oh, old takes exposed. Who gives a fuck? 343 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,800 Old takes expose, expose this exposed. 344 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,040 You know, I see that last night, right? 345 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,080 And I really am laughing. I'm laughing at it. 346 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,520 But the people see there's two types of fans. 347 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,080 There's realistic fans and then there's fanboys, all right? 348 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,560 And I am the former, not the latter. 349 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,240 I'm not saying that I don't I don't sometimes get wrapped up 350 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,800 at the moment and have some of my judgments blurred by my 351 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,280 fandom. Like I'm not saying I'm above 352 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,720 that I'm not. And really, quite frankly, the 353 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,680 day that I become above that is the day that I probably don't 354 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,920 want to do this anymore. Because one of the reasons that 355 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,560 I love this and the reason why I got into this is because I love 356 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,360 sports and I love certain teams. And you guys know that right now 357 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,360 to get on the air every day with with a YouTube show and just, 358 00:18:34,360 --> 00:18:36,680 you know, wax poetic. Hey, listen, I really think, 359 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,440 even though I'm not a Mets fan, like say if I was a die hard 360 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,480 Mets fan, Mets don't look too good, right? 361 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,760 I've got the Mets look awful. God, they look they look like a 362 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,040 AA team. Mets are a joke right now. 363 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,880 My God. But like, if I'm getting on the 364 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,000 air talking about the Mets, well, you know, I saw Lindor 365 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,520 stretching yesterday and maybe he'll come back soon. 366 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,240 He can come back tomorrow. Mets ain't winning anything like 367 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:55,880 you. You. 368 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:00,680 You've got to incorporate at least a modicum of reality, all 369 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:05,000 right? And I have to be honest, I stand 370 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,080 by my takes about the Knicks. And I can even read some. 371 00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:10,920 You know what? I am going to read some of them. 372 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,920 I'm going to read some of them. This is how little I care like 373 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,840 people think. I got you, You got what you get. 374 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,880 I got you. You had a bad take. 375 00:19:22,120 --> 00:19:24,680 Come on now. But this is not a good one. 376 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:30,200 I will admit. I wrote this on January 15th, 377 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,720 2026. Now keep in mind, I was also, I 378 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,520 was had a lot going on. I was just launching unleashed 379 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,040 right? Just ended my run at WFAN trying 380 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,360 to get things going. So maybe the head wasn't as 381 00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:42,320 clear. I'm just kidding. 382 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,600 I I believe this. I wrote this. 383 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,880 I've never well, man, I've never wavered on this and I never 384 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,640 will. Knicks aren't winning a thing 385 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,520 with Cat being a primary piece of the puzzle. 386 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,800 Never was that guy never going to be that guy. 387 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:00,320 All right, now isolated, that looks like that, that is the 388 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,960 kind of tweet that should put you in social media jail. 389 00:20:04,360 --> 00:20:08,080 Like if you have a tweet that is that erroneous all these months 390 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,400 later, right? Like that pathetic. 391 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,920 And that off the mark, like there should be a little 392 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,560 punishment. I'll be the first to admit it. 393 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:19,240 See, the problem is, is that too many of you, and not all of you 394 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:25,600 obviously too many of you are narrow minded dopes. 395 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,560 I don't know how else to say it. Who can't incorporate context? 396 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,960 Because remember when I said before you're either a a fanboy, 397 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,080 right, The two types or or a pragmatic fan? 398 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,360 You evaluate things ration, maybe not always rationally, but 399 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,240 you take all the evidence and you give an opinion. 400 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,600 That's kind of what we do in this line of work, right? 401 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,040 And the only people that were hanging on to this Knicks 402 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:55,160 championship dream back then were fanboys. 403 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,120 Like, that's it. Because if you watch them every 404 00:20:58,120 --> 00:21:02,320 night like I do and like I did, I mean, I did it when they were 405 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:03,880 awful, You better believe I was doing it this year. 406 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,560 I'm trying to figure out what the hell is going on. 407 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:10,560 They were not playing the same type of a basketball. 408 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,840 It's like it's it's like this, right? 409 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,280 It's like the Yankees looked one way. 410 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,360 Now it didn't they didn't win the championship, but they 411 00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:20,680 looked one way. And then they're like, oh, man, 412 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,160 Devin Williams not exactly getting the job done here. 413 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,560 Closer. All right, let's get Bednar. 414 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:25,880 Now. Bednar is a problem this year, 415 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,760 whatever. But Bednar is going to become 416 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,280 the closer and we're going to flip things around or with the 417 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,880 World Series, we're going to Clay Holmes, we're going to kind 418 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,360 of reposition him and Luke Weaver is going to closeout 419 00:21:37,360 --> 00:21:38,640 games. And it was very, very good if 420 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:39,960 you remember as a Yankee fan, right? 421 00:21:40,120 --> 00:21:43,920 So think about that if you had the opinion back back then, and 422 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,120 I don't, I don't think that I quite said this, but because 423 00:21:46,120 --> 00:21:47,920 they had Soto the year that they got to the World Series, I was 424 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:48,800 feeling pretty good about things. 425 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,840 But if you had the opinion, if you have to take like, hey, this 426 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,440 Yankees team is not going to win a World Series the way they're 427 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:55,840 the way their bullpen has said it. 428 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,000 Well, when them and they didn't win it, that's so it didn't 429 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,160 really come to fruition, but close enough. 430 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,160 They change things. They altered things. 431 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,680 So I don't know how people don't see this. 432 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:10,840 If you think that the Knicks are playing the same way that they 433 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:15,080 played in late October, November, a little bit in 434 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,920 December, but they still weren't playing like this. 435 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,560 And I don't mean level of efficiency. 436 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,680 I mean schematically, how they actually played the game, where 437 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,240 the offense ran, what they looked for, how other guys were 438 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,440 empowered. Everything has changed. 439 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,000 And you know who deserves the most credit for that? 440 00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:33,840 Who do you think? The head coach, if we're going 441 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,880 to sit here and have those discussions, should Tom 442 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,040 Thibodeau stay? Should Tom pivotal go and does 443 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,440 he have a ceiling which that you know where I stood on that, 444 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,280 right? If we're going to have those 445 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,840 opinions. And then also, by contrast, have 446 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,680 the opinions, even though Mike Brown wasn't their first hire, 447 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,800 you know, when they looked at their most like their most 448 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,080 vulnerable point. If we're going to have those 449 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,800 opinions, hey, man, this team, they're going backwards. 450 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,840 And we heard a lot of people popping up like the whack a mole 451 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,560 on the, on the, on the, on the Jersey Shore, you know, not, not 452 00:23:04,120 --> 00:23:06,480 Broadway, whatever the whatever the hell. 453 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,880 Boardwalk thank. You the boardwalk, right? 454 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,720 You got one guy popping up, not going to work, not going to 455 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,880 work, not going to work, not going to work and just banging 456 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,400 them away. Well, guess what? 457 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,680 When? If you're going to hammer the 458 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,520 coach back, then you better be on your knees kissing his Nikes 459 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,960 because Mike Brown, in my opinion, has done something. 460 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,120 Again, with all due respect, Tom Thibodau was incapable of doing 461 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,200 and it's called adapting to a degree that I think would have 462 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,400 been uncomfortable for Tom Thibodau. 463 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,320 Number and and we all know about the bench. 464 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,160 We know that, but but also the allocation of rolls. 465 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,560 There's two things at play here, guys. 466 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,480 There's the allocation of minutes, all right, the 467 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,760 distribution of minutes. Then there's the shaping and 468 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:53,880 sizing and allocation of rolls and the roles of the players 469 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,160 have changed. There's a reason why Bridges 470 00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:00,360 looks like an All Star. The last, you know, I mean, 471 00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:02,320 usually does step it up a little bit in the playoffs anyway, even 472 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,480 going back to the Celtics last year. 473 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,080 But like, he looks like it all. There's a reason why that's 474 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,560 happening. There's a reason why Karl 475 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,960 Anthony Towns is playing an incredibly high level. 476 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,600 I know he's had some foul issues and what whatever, but I mean, 477 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,960 he's been even with the Sixers series, he's been finite. 478 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,920 He's been a different player. Like he's not, he's not getting 479 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,040 22 shots a night like he got in Minnesota or like he got even a 480 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,600 lot of nights year one with the Knicks. 481 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,640 He is being used in a way that maximizes his talents and the 482 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,560 talents around him. And Jaylen Brunson, my God, I 483 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,760 mean, start, get the chisel and go to the nearest granite and 484 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,200 start chiseling this guy's face out right? 485 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,400 As as, as the guy. I mean, listen, Aaron Judge is 486 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,360 phenomenal and Aaron Judge is he can stop playing today. 487 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:49,000 He's a Hall of Famer. What Jaylen Brunson's doing, 488 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,360 especially if Judge doesn't win the World Series, Brunson, 489 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,200 Brunson surpasses Aaron Judge Forget. 490 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,440 I mean, that's just the way it goes. 491 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:01,280 If he wins, if he wins, he surpasses Eli. 492 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,320 He obviously surpasses Judge. Like I'm not saying he's going 493 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,960 to necessarily surpass like a Mole or Jeter because those guys 494 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,400 did it over and over. But this is the track that the 495 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,920 train is on right now for Brunson and these other Knicks, 496 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,600 like Brunson's number is already in the rafters. 497 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,480 If you're having a discussion, should Carmelo's number 7 be 498 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,160 retired or I'm bringing it to the table, Should B KS #30 be 499 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,040 retired? Start printing it up now because 500 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,280 it's it's going to be up there. It is just amazing what this 501 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,160 team has done. Amazing, man. 502 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,880 Wow, I am pumped up now. It's it's weird though, because 503 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,240 now you got to sit there, you got to wait. 504 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:42,400 You got to wait, you know, and I think I would have been a little 505 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,080 more worried, but the Knicks have been waiting a while. 506 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,240 Had to wait for Philly for a little bit, had to wait for the 507 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,640 Cavs. Cavs back to, you know, 7 game 508 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,800 series, two in a row. I don't know if it's going to go 509 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,680 7 out in West, but it's going to go at least 6. 510 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,360 And I have to say there's an incredibly high probability that 511 00:25:58,360 --> 00:26:00,440 it will go 7. I don't see either team winning 512 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:01,400 two straight. I don't see it. 513 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,760 They're too evenly matched and each team has too many things 514 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,040 going for them. Like there's no way that I, I 515 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,640 don't think that Jay Gill, just Alexander's going to be so quiet 516 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,680 where the Spurs win two in a row or and as great as Wendy is, I 517 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:20,040 don't think that like Wendy is going to be so quiet where the 518 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,520 Thunder went to I I really believe it's going 7 and you got 519 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:24,840 to wait. You got to you got to do your 520 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,480 scout and you got to put your scout and head on. 521 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,360 But it's OK, guys. It's OK to admit that we may 522 00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:34,320 have missed some stuff with this Knicks team because they just 523 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:40,240 didn't look like that team. And there are myriad examples in 524 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,960 other sports, right? Whether it's even the Mets a 525 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,040 couple of years almost getting to the World Series, you know, 526 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,880 playing very well against the Phillies, not even winning 90 527 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,600 games and then knocking on the doorstep of the World Series, 528 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,640 losing to eventually the Dodgers, who were just a lot 529 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,040 better. The Nationals. 530 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,320 Juan Soto, you know, a kid 1920 years old, they start 19 and 31. 531 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,600 They win the World Series, the 2000 Yankees Subway Series when 532 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,880 they beat the Mets. Go back and look at the Yankees 533 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,280 September that year. They did not look like a 534 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,920 champion. But that's that's the cyclical 535 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,240 up and down nature of baseball. It's far more common. 536 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:20,040 Part of the reason why I was so alarmed and, and, and, and, and 537 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,520 very resolute, admittedly, in saying that I don't think that 538 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,840 this team has what it takes to be a champion is because you 539 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,640 don't see that as much in basketball. 540 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,960 In basketball, we're used to dominance, not dominance to this 541 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,760 degree. But if you look at the at every 542 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,680 NBA champion, you don't have any champions with 49 wins, you 543 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,400 know, like that. The fifth seed, you know, in the 544 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,360 East or the West or the second or third wild card like you get 545 00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:47,920 in baseball, generally, there's a correlation. 546 00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:52,600 When you've got supreme talent in the NBA, you're going to win 547 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,600 60 and you're going to kind of coast probably until the 548 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,920 conference championship, conference finals, right? 549 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,960 So, and in football, you're going to, you know, you're going 550 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,760 to get some wacky, you know, stuff, whatever. 551 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,840 You know, it's a little different in football too, but 552 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,480 in in a sport where you know, you just know, like Colby and 553 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,040 his peak is going to drop 30. Shaq's going to drop 30. 554 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,080 You know, Patrick's going to give you 20 something and 12 555 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,720 against whomever and give the Knicks a chance to win back 556 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,600 then. Same with Barkley, Malone, 557 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,360 Stockton, even the the non champions. 558 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:28,480 But they just I don't know they it it's it's one of the most 559 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,200 amazing transformations really not to be a prisoner of the 560 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,520 moment, not to be subject to hyperbole. 561 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,720 It's truly, not only is it one of the most amazing 562 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:43,240 transformations, it's it really is the most impressive run that 563 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,200 I've ever seen for any New York sports team, even the great 98 564 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,040 Yankees and those teams that were just beating the stuffing 565 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,640 out of everybody. And I know that they were 566 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,560 coasting for a minute there. I know that. 567 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,280 Trust me. It wasn't that long ago I was at 568 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,240 the Stadium most of those games, locked into every pitch like an 569 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,280 absolute lunatic, as you can imagine. 570 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,800 But this is just different. It's different. 571 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,360 I don't know. I don't know the I'd, I'd love 572 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,040 to know actually. And there will be a book written 573 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,520 about this someday. There will be a book, whether 574 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,560 it's you can keep that up in a second. 575 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,120 I get to like whether it's Ian O'Connor or Mike Vaccaro or 576 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,080 whomever, somebody is going to write a book about these Knicks, 577 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,640 especially if they win four more and or champions. 578 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,600 Think about think about that, man, We're four away. 579 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,960 Wow. And I there's going to be a 580 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,520 point of inflection that we don't know about yet, whether it 581 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,680 was in the locker room, whether it was on the practice floor, 582 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,840 whether it was cat knocking on Brown's door, whether it was 583 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,200 Brown in his office, whether it was Brown knocking on cats hotel 584 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,240 room door and saying, hey, big boy, let's let we got to figure 585 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,120 some stuff out. But what maybe there was not 586 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,080 that. Did you know you're not going to 587 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,800 have a fist fight in practice like the old days, but a little 588 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,240 flare up, verbal flare up in practice, something happened 589 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,720 because there's nobody that can convince me that this was the 590 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,360 plan because it it, it, it's two opposite sides of the I get. 591 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,720 I understand the part about, well, let's not just show 592 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,720 everything right away. You know, it's not like you, 593 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,280 you, you don't you don't go on a first date and show up with a 594 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,760 diamond ring and a tennis bracelet and at a $300. 595 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,120 I don't even know what shoes there are stilettos or boots, 596 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,160 whatever the hell they want to wear. 597 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:20,680 I. You. 598 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,360 Just you. You go get something to eat, you 599 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,600 know, you don't divulge everything, You don't show 600 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,200 everything. And there's something to that 601 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,800 because the NBA doesn't require you. 602 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,560 At least this NBA, you can win on the road with more frequency. 603 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,680 You don't have to win 63 games. You don't have to be the top 604 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,360 team of the conference. It's about being healthy, being 605 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,960 deep, being connected and being right when it matters most. 606 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,440 And they got there, and I didn't think that they did, and I 607 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,520 didn't think that they would, and I'm thrilled that they did. 608 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,880 It is awesome. Like the shock has worn off. 609 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,440 There were points during, you know, it really didn't go back 610 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,400 to the Hawks series when they're up 51 points, you know, and just 611 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,840 drilling the Sixers like that. But but it it wasn't even as 612 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,880 much of A shock as it would have been if it happened months ago 613 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,000 because they were playing. And I said this, this, I did say 614 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,440 the last month of the regular season, they changed how they 615 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,560 were playing. I just want to know, I can't 616 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,840 wait to read that book, hear that conversation about how, why 617 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,920 and exactly when did it change? All right, let's get some calls. 618 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,440 Let's get some chats. Let's go. 619 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,360 Let me just shut that off for one second there. 620 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,600 Question for BT means more jet ship or a Knicks chip. 621 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,640 Oh, God, I've been asked this so much. 622 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,040 I've really been asked this a lot. 623 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,200 First of all, Jay Rod, what do you think my answer is? 624 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:45,520 You got to take a guess. If it were to happen, Oh my 625 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,080 gosh, I think what? Would what would mean more to 626 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,480 me? Now remember for those who don't 627 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,600 know, hold on. I want to say oh that's your 628 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,240 answer, but hold on, maybe this could change it. 629 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,320 Not that I'm trying to change it, just want to get the proper 630 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,880 context for those who don't know, Jared was producing my 631 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,160 unkillable Jets podcast. Yes, Sir, he knows that you 632 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,320 guys. I won't say everybody knows, but 633 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,600 sure, many of you, you know, saw the saw me flip out when Rodgers 634 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:10,880 got hurt. We are unkillable. 635 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,480 So that's your answer. The Jets, huh? 636 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,600 Let let me. Expound a little bit though. 637 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,080 So I think this is what I think, I think you would believe and I 638 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,400 think, you know, a Knicks championship would obviously 639 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,040 mean more to New York as a city. 100% but I. 640 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:30,680 Think what would hit you as a more jarring shot and really 641 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,880 like, dude, this would this would change your life. 642 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,480 Like obviously this Knicks finals could, but I mean, I 643 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:42,120 think a jets championship would literally change your entire 644 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,000 outlook on on every on life. Yes. 645 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,480 Oh man, you know. It's a tough question. 646 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,920 It must. Be it's a tough question because 647 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,000 there are really a couple of different ways to answer it. 648 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,080 Like what would be more shocking Jets? 649 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:04,240 What would be more satisfying? That's where it's really I got 650 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,080 to be. I it's the Knicks. 651 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,040 Believe it. The Knicks. 652 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,280 Yeah, I'm going to tell you why. Now, maybe I'm taking the easy 653 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,440 way out with this, But whenever The Jets win that Super Bowl, 654 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,320 right, whenever that is, right, hopefully I'm around for it. 655 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,400 So let's say that I am. Let's say that they eventually 656 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,680 do it. Now, if you win the Super Bowl, 657 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,120 you're having a good regular season. 658 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,560 Like you might not be 15 to 2, but you're going to have a fun 659 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,320 regular season. You kind of know who the you 660 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,120 know made there's always surprises going into a year like 661 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,760 what like Detroit last year under commanders took a step 662 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,560 back. There's always examples of what 663 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,200 we thought would happen that somehow does him based on 664 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,360 circumstance, tough schedule injury, whatever it might be. 665 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,760 But all things considered, even the if you if you're a Super 666 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,760 Bowl team, you've had at you've had a double digit win season, 667 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,240 even if it's like the lowest wild card 10 and said whatever. 668 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,280 So you've had a lot of fun for a couple of months right now. 669 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,960 But most Super Bowl winners now it's a little different. 670 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,920 You only get the one buy in in each conference here. 671 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,240 But you know, a lot of times like the Pats would have a buy. 672 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,840 So that's one less game. OK, one less game, which means 673 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,040 you're not watching anything. What you're not, you know you're 674 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,679 not going through. The. 675 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,639 Chins and the the you know your friends over and all that stuff, 676 00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:18,880 right, the whole hubbub that is watching your team take each 677 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,679 step of the championship and then all right, so you sit out 678 00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:24,120 wild card weekend because you get a buy or you play wild card 679 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,400 weekend and you dismantle somebody. 680 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,040 I'm not saying it's not fun, but it's one game done. 681 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,400 Then you're on to the divisional one game done. 682 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,400 Then you're on to the obviously to the conference championship 683 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,760 and then if you win that, you're in the Super Bowl. 684 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:41,360 Now the difference here is that where now, I mean, I, I, well, I 685 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:47,320 would find my way out there, but I went to probably, I probably 686 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,960 went to at least eight or nine with Tiki and I've probably been 687 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,120 to about 12 or 13 Super Bowls, like radio row broadcasting the 688 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,040 whole week, Arizona, Indianapolis, Detroit, you name 689 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,920 it, I've been there, right? And, and, and that's not to 690 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,320 break. That's just to kind of answer 691 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,240 the question because I'm, I'm kind of working through it 692 00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:07,640 myself a little bit as well. Want to make sure I have the 693 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,040 right answer. I first said Knicks, but I want 694 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,240 to see if that's really, really true. 695 00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:13,360 What I think it is. The thing that I would have 696 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,760 loved more than anything is to be in a radio row, right, 697 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:23,040 talking about The Jets for a week, you know, outside the and 698 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,880 we're joined by a former, you know, 12 year so and so five 699 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,880 time old pro. He's got the I don't know, he's 700 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,320 got a heart medicine that he's pushing some other boring push 701 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,480 interview that you got, which by the way, we stopped doing. 702 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,920 Well, I'm like, I can't do these anymore. 703 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,280 I can't have these inane, boring, you know, useless 704 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,720 conversations like if you're pushing a product, push it 705 00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:43,880 somewhere else. And and like, not to sound like 706 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,560 a jerk, but one of the great things, especially doing it with 707 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,320 tiki, doing the national stuff. You know, Jim Rome was on right 708 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,960 after us. So we and Tiki and I were on TV 709 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:57,000 for most of our tenure together. So we were on the TV set, which 710 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,080 means, you know, like Jim Horribaugh, Brett Favre, Aaron 711 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,360 Rodgers, like guys Tim Tebow at the height of his, you know, 712 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,080 craziness. They would bring them to us in a 713 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:11,560 more specialized way rather than just having and no knock at all. 714 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,920 I mean, these guys were like, say Ronnie Lott going from 715 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,640 table, who was amazing, one of the 15 best players probably of 716 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,800 all time in the NFL, but still going from table to table, 717 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,680 pushing the same product, having the same conversation now. 718 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,000 So that would be like I like Hampton and and basically every 719 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,680 not not basically every year that I was there. 720 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,280 The Jets, not only were The Jets not there, The Jets were a joke. 721 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,320 They didn't start going until right after Rex Ryan. 722 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,200 OK, so they were awful, Yeah. And we're talking about a 15 723 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,560 year run of no playoffs, which is the longest North American 724 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:46,880 drought in team sports as we know. 725 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,000 So that would have that. That may have amped it up a 726 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,200 little bit. But honestly, dude, I go back to 727 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,760 my default here and it's always my childhood. 728 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,320 I'm a very sentimental person, you know that and and I remember 729 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,400 and I've told the stories I'm not going to tell them over and 730 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,480 over. My dad taken me to you know, you 731 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,120 took me to 1 jet game. You just didn't want to deal 732 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,440 with the crowds whatever like 80,000 people took me to a jet 733 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,440 steal their game. But we would took me to a ton of 734 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,640 nick playoff games. I remember the night that they 735 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,160 drafted Kenny Skywalker. So they got they. 736 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,000 Did you even know the name Kenny Skywalker? 737 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,320 I don't think so. Time ago, the old edge will 738 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,480 anyway. The Knicks get Patrick Ewing in 739 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,200 1985. Patrick Ewing And how great is 740 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,040 it to see the big fella out there with the hardware 741 00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:37,040 midcourt? Dude, I love Patrick Ewing. 742 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,440 My my favorite thing about this guy, he dresses like he's in 743 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,520 like an 1880s saloon. Like he's he's like the only 744 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,760 dude who's still rocking the Derby hat and like the brown 745 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,400 vest. Yes, with the striped shirt. 746 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,360 It's almost like, is it a twill or a tweed? 747 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,160 Vest, You know what? I. 748 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,200 Mean, that's funny. He does. 749 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,320 My son said that too last night. He's like, you know, he knows 750 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,040 Patrick. He's like, he's like Patrick 751 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,080 Dress is interesting. I'm like, yes, it's called old, 752 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,600 old school flavor. Man gets taking after out of. 753 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,760 School like he's riding horses. It's awesome and I love it. 754 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,480 Yes, yes, yes. So I remember. 755 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,280 So Pat was drafted in 85, first overall pick out of Georgetown 756 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:17,960 the next year. And they weren't good. 757 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,880 They were. They won like 23 games his first 758 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,280 year. They won the rookie of the year. 759 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,840 I remember he sat out the final 20 something games with a bum 760 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,200 knee and his knees were always jacked up, even when he was 761 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,000 young. And then the next year they took 762 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,520 Kenny Skywalker from Kentucky, who was a forward who won a dunk 763 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,240 contest. You know, he had like the kid 764 00:38:33,240 --> 00:38:35,240 and play flat top and the gold chase. 765 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,040 I loved them. I you know, the blue and white 766 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,960 Nike dung. See just that style. 767 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,160 And I back then, not every college game was on TV. 768 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,320 So you got a lot of Kentucky, like you got a lot of Len Bias 769 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,560 that that was the year that Len Bias was drafted first overall 770 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,960 about the Celtics. Kenny was a couple of picks 771 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,680 after that. Anyway, I remember I, I had to 772 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,720 be coming back from a baseball game because the draft was 773 00:38:56,720 --> 00:39:01,440 always in June and we were in a Burger King and it would have 774 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,360 even been on WFN because WFN wasn't born yet because he was 775 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,480 drafted in 86. FN came in 87, as you guys know. 776 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,280 And my dad and I, we heard the Knicks may have been 1010 wins, 777 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,320 honestly, may have been an update that my dad just put on 778 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,920 and we heard Kenny Skywalker drafted by the Knicks. 779 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:21,400 So, and like I, I look at the database of memories, all those 780 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,880 games just sitting in the basement with my dad. 781 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,520 I used to call my friends, my my friend still laughing, me, my 782 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,880 college buddies, right, Especially my the guys that I 783 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,000 live with, Trevor and Maddie. So I would we would just yeah, 784 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,760 I'm school. We just go out. 785 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,080 We were there, we were, we were there to play baseball. 786 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,000 We were there to have fun. You know, school was a little 787 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,760 secondary too often, but we would go out all the time, 788 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,600 right? And we'd play Sega, we'd have a 789 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,040 40, we'd have a dip, we'd play Sega, and then we'd go out 790 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,960 right. And I can't tell you, Jay. 791 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,880 Now think about this is when Pat Riley's coaching the Knicks. 792 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,080 All right? This is when I'm at Marist. 793 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,840 I would, I would, I would tell my buddies, hey, I'll meet you 794 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,280 guys at whether it's birdies, whether it's Renaissance, 795 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,400 whether it's, you know, whatever, I'll meet you there. 796 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,000 I'll meet you there a little. I got to call my pops, talk 797 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,400 about the and I would call my dad and talk to him. 798 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,760 You know, because he is he is my best friend. 799 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,240 But just talk Knicks, talk Knicks and I would get up and my 800 00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:18,600 friends still they always they're like, dude, we we you 801 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,440 know, like like when when people I was talking a quick Side 802 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,400 Story. I was talking to my buddy Trevor 803 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,280 on Friday night late. He coaches. 804 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:29,760 He's got that facility down in Florida. 805 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,560 Great coach, sons a good ball player. 806 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,440 And I played with him at Marist right, and I love him. 807 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,360 He's awesome. Lived with him and played with 808 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,200 him and we don't get to talk that much. 809 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,120 So I came back, my son had a game, whatever, had a couple 810 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,800 drinks, did a little fire pit hanging out. 811 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,360 My neighbor was hanging out. He went home. 812 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,040 So I'm like, you know what, I haven't talked to Trevor in a 813 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,880 long time. I got to call Trev and we were 814 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,280 talking and Trevor put his 13 year old son Preston on the 815 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,520 phone and he's like, so this is Trevor. 816 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,240 He's go he goes yo B, he goes. Preston wants to be on the air 817 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,240 and he's like, you know, he's, he's thinks it's easy. 818 00:40:58,240 --> 00:40:59,800 Can you talk some sense into this young guy? 819 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,960 And I told and I did doesn't matter what I said, but I, I had 820 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,120 a real good conversation with, with the young man. 821 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,760 Try to try to steer him in the right direction. 822 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,720 And Trevor goes, he goes, he goes press, let me tell you 823 00:41:09,720 --> 00:41:12,400 something. He goes B, he calls me B, He 824 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:17,000 goes, he goes BB would get up at 7:00 in the morning, right, and 825 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,880 go to the deli and get the news and the post and a bottle of 826 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:25,760 water and before practice before anything and read every single 827 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,920 article about the Knicks and the Yankees and the Mets and the 828 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,080 bike. His point was if you're not 829 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,840 dialed in and invested like you're not, you're not going to 830 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,320 make it like you have to. You have to, you have to work 831 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:37,840 your ass off like it doesn't happen. 832 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,400 You might see him now with, you know, with some some like you 833 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,760 make you think. I think he made it. 834 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,960 But it it's a hard route was the point. 835 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,560 And of all the articles that I would get up and read, I could 836 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,200 not wait to inhale the Knicks stuff more than anything, even 837 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,640 slightly more than the Yankees, as much as that is a strange 838 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,320 thing to say. So that was a very long answer 839 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,600 because it's one of the toughest questions you could ask me 840 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,440 because I've never seen either team win. 841 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,000 I'm a devout fan. I love both teams. 842 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,400 You guys know that Knicks, Knicks, Knicks, Knicks. 843 00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:14,800 And you also get to stretch it out more like, and this, this is 844 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,840 part of this is part of my answer. 845 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,840 Like I'm not trying to take the easy way out, but to win an NBA 846 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,960 championship, you know, you start right around tax day in 847 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,000 the middle of April, you're rolling until middle of June. 848 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,920 That is months upon months like that is multiple months and and 849 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,240 it's two or three times a week now a little less because the 850 00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:35,960 Knicks are sweeping everybody at this point. 851 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,280 But it's just a constant, you know, every other night, sit 852 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,560 down, watch and then the next day you unpack and process what 853 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,560 you watched and then you slowly transition that day to 854 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,560 anticipate what you're going to watch the next game. 855 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,600 It's just is more frequency. My answer is Knicks. 856 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,480 You said jets. My answer is Knicks. 857 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:55,960 There we go. My answer man. 858 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:01,400 I mean, yeah, I think the Knicks just hold a very special heart 859 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,800 and like a lot of New York, you know, seemingly a lot of New 860 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,840 York fans hearts and like, especially with that, the 861 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,920 childhood ties there. I gotta say, man, you know, some 862 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,920 was saying this couple first, let me answer one person's 863 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:20,960 comment blaming me and then and then let me say something else. 864 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,680 Is J Rod really a Celtics fan? He gets way too excited about 865 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,040 the Knicks. Yeah, imagine. 866 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,080 Imagine if I hopped on this pod and I was just going, yeah, I'm 867 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,200 not even excited. Honestly, though, but you, yeah, 868 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,680 but hold on. You, you got to be you. 869 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,000 I mean, I'm not saying that that's a completely accurate 870 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,000 take there, but I understand where he's coming from. 871 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,320 I understand. And here's. 872 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,040 I, I did have AI did have a certain thought last night where 873 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,800 I went. I don't know if I really want to 874 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,280 see this team win the. Well then, say it I. 875 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:54,120 Don't care really, because it will be insufferable for the 876 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,760 rest of time. I mean, if the Knicks win a 877 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,960 championship that is never lived down, ever. 878 00:43:59,960 --> 00:44:03,960 Not that any championship really ever is, but especially that one 879 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,440 will never be let down. And now let me say something. 880 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,440 That Ben Stiller video was awesome. 881 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:11,680 Yeah. Yeah, Ben. 882 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,760 Oh, my God, dude. That that video of cat 883 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,040 whispering into Jalen Brunson's ear. 884 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,040 Four more. Four more. 885 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:20,920 I mean that. Is just. 886 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,000 How about this too? That is. 887 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,120 Freaking juice. Now, I don't know how I feel 888 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,360 about this. I get it and it it sounds good 889 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,760 and I like it. I definitely like it a lot more 890 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,480 than I don't. Let me say that up front. 891 00:44:31,240 --> 00:44:33,280 Nixon Poppity Champagne, which I get. 892 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,160 They also didn't even crack a beer like. 893 00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:38,440 That's great. I I. 894 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,160 Know, I know it's going to, you know, if they finish the job and 895 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:46,520 they win more before they lose 4, that's going to speak to like 896 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,920 that's going to be the cherry on top, as locked in and as focused 897 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,320 as you can humanly be. But I'm also a staunch believer 898 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,680 in enjoying the checkpoints. Like I remember over the years, 899 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,880 right, you know, not as much recently, but like when the 900 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,920 Yankees were just dominating everybody, right, winning 901 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,720 championship after championship. I remember being a little bit of 902 00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:07,040 a topic like, all right, you made a wild corridor. 903 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,080 All right, you know, big deal. You you won the first round, but 904 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,200 why celebrate? Well, I I number one, I think 905 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,000 it's good for team unity. There's also guys on that team 906 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,520 that didn't that maybe weren't alone for the ride when you did 907 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,240 win the championship. So I just, I don't know, like 908 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,440 I'm not, I'm not taking champagne and getting the 909 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,120 goggles, but I'd have to think I'd be hammering back a few 910 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,760 beers. Yeah, I mean, you know. 911 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,520 Dumping it on the Brunson's head, I. 912 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,000 Mean, you know it like I do and like you're saying, like I do 913 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,520 respect them, I guess, for that cold move. 914 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,280 Like, you know, we're not celebrating. 915 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,640 There's nothing to celebrate. But I will say, I think I've 916 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,800 seen a video of pretty much every single finals maker prior 917 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,960 celebrating after their conference final. 918 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,000 Yeah, yeah. Like like like pretty much every 919 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:55,640 other team regardless champion or not previous has usually 920 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,320 celebrated after the conference finals victory. 921 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,920 It's amazing too. And listen, we we do national 922 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,720 stuff too here. So, you know, the Cavaliers, 923 00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:05,960 this team, I'm listening to Atkinson and the analytics art. 924 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,520 That was that was odd. Whatever. 925 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,280 I don't even need to really, you know, get on them for that. 926 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,040 That just didn't make a whole lot of sense in my opinion. 927 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,200 But you know, he was asked about, you know, next year and I 928 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,320 remember sitting here, we took a massive step and and and and I 929 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,720 thought that Kenny Smith's post game take was great because they 930 00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:23,320 had Atkinson since presser. Then they went back to the 931 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,880 studio with with Chuck and Kenny and the and the crew. 932 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,680 They were great last night. They were dancing there at the 933 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:29,480 top. That's on. 934 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,480 That was like the robots out. Yep, I saw you tweeted like that 935 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,000 little video of like Jack and Kenny doing the thing. 936 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,680 That was like one of the first times in a while I was watching 937 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,360 that show and I just like straight up audibly like laughed 938 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,200 out loud, like I. Was just like, this is 939 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:44,840 hilarious. Time. 940 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:46,440 I laugh all the time without you. 941 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,520 I think that show is legitimately funny. 942 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,280 But anyway, the point is, is that I think that, you know, if 943 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,600 I can, I can only evaluate it like so if I'm a Cavaliers fan 944 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,040 and I'm listening to my head coach talk about how we, you 945 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,360 know, we took massive steps, we made a lot of progress. 946 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,680 Well, you did based on how far you went and you did advance 947 00:47:07,720 --> 00:47:10,760 under duress. And you know, Max Struce missed 948 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,360 a lot of time and who knows, maybe they would have been a 949 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:13,560 higher seat. I know he didn't play well in 950 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,720 the series. Nobody really did, but he's a 951 00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:17,520 good player. I mean, Max Struce could play 952 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,200 and they just missed a lot of threes that were wide open 953 00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:23,240 really from from game one. And if they have Struce, I don't 954 00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:24,920 know, do they win 456 more games? 955 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,160 Probably. I think they're a little bit 956 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,960 higher seat, whatever. But I I would be very reluctant 957 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,040 to hear. I would not buy in myself if my 958 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,320 coach was telling me that we made significant progress when 959 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,200 we just got swept, all right, and got obliterated every single 960 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,600 game. And oh, yeah, by the way, in a 961 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,840 close out game in my crib, I'm losing by 19 points at the half. 962 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,320 I've been out rebounded by 9 by 9. 963 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,360 I've given up 23 points on the fast break and a -, 13. 964 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,440 They actually gave him 25, but it was 25 to 2. 965 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,240 So they were -23 fast break points allowed and they were -13 966 00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:01,800 points off turnover. And the thing that you saw right 967 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,200 away, this when I saw this, I'm like, I like I thought, I 968 00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:07,560 thought there was a chance the Knicks could lose a tight one 969 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,400 last night. I didn't think that they would 970 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,640 destroy him now. I thought if it got off the 971 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,960 rails a little bit that the foundation of the Cavaliers 972 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,360 would eventually crack and then they would blow them out. 973 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,960 But like I did expect much more of, you know, a back and forth 974 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,800 to an extent, although Mitchell might go for 35. 975 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,720 I thought Harden might have a bit of a throwback game. 976 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,320 I thought some of the role players would knock down more 977 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,600 threes, whatever. But as soon and you saw this 978 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,280 right away, as soon as you saw the Cavs not getting back on 979 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,160 defense, I'm talking about in the first freaking half when 980 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:43,360 you're playing for your lives, constant barrage stream of guys. 981 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,840 It's like dudes running wide open in the secondary and like 982 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,080 the linebacker and the safety looking at each other like 983 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,200 what's going on, man? Oh, somebody behind this 10 984 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,320 yards, like, you know, it's on film. 985 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,760 The Knicks knew that the Cavaliers just did not get and I 986 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,160 don't understand how you can't get back on defense. 987 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,920 There are certain limitations that you just that you have as a 988 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,080 team, right? If you have a shitty offensive 989 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,280 line, no matter how much you try and scheme and this and that, If 990 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,920 you're overmatched by the four, by the three, depending upon 991 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,240 3443 or whatever, blitz or whatever. 992 00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:18,520 But conventional stuff, a couple of bodies across from you lining 993 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,720 up that are just stronger, more ferocious, quicker, younger, 994 00:49:21,720 --> 00:49:24,080 better. I mean, I can't crush you with 995 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,600 that. I could maybe crush the GM, 996 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,760 crush the GM for giving us a shitty old line. 997 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,800 But there's only so much you can do right when the guy, when the 998 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,680 guy in front of you is clearly better. 999 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,920 But things that are born on one, recognition and two effort, 1000 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:44,120 those have to be non negotiable. And 20 minus at the half. 1001 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,000 Not for the game -23 fast break points. 1002 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,400 It is just layup. Oh, there there's OG, Oh, 1003 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,720 there's hard, Oh, there's cat beautiful outlets outlet pass. 1004 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,320 Oh, there's Brunson who he who basically tried to dunk. 1005 00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,400 He was so wide open on that one play. 1006 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:00,800 You guys know what I'm talking about. 1007 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,320 That to me is enough evidence and I like Kenny acts. 1008 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,040 I think he's a terrific coach. They got to do a lot to that 1009 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:08,280 team. That team's going to win times 1010 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:09,880 because that team's going to win nothing the way they're 1011 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,000 currently built. Maybe I should stop saying that, 1012 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,200 although I I I do believe it with them. 1013 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:18,680 Harden's not getting younger, whatever, but Kenny Smith really 1014 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,360 pointed out some good things like they've got to learn to 1015 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,600 play differently. They've got to get their bigs 1016 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,400 involved more. Not that you get a dump, dump it 1017 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,520 down to Jared Allen very much, but you've got to use Mobley 1018 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,240 next year a little differently. They got a couple of rim 1019 00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:31,680 runners. You just didn't see a ton of rim 1020 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:32,800 runs. As you know this series. 1021 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,560 You saw a lot for the Knicks. I saw a lot of up top alley 1022 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,160 oops, you know, to Mitchell Robinson flying out of nowhere, 1023 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,280 you know, going up to the to the ceiling and hammered it down 1024 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,400 like they are just the Knicks look freaking awesome right now. 1025 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,760 Wow. It's just it's crazy. 1026 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,400 And the cavalier years I that that's unforgivable. 1027 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,600 Like you know, when when you're desperate and you're trying to 1028 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,080 stave off elimination and you're home and you start out well, 1029 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,120 like not that they were up 13 to 2, but they had a couple of 1030 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,760 couple of possession lead there and the NBA so volatile in terms 1031 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,000 of three-point scoring and comebacks and all that other 1032 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,760 stuff. It's not that you think, oh, 1033 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,080 they're UPS 8 to 2, whatever the hell it was like Cavs are going 1034 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,640 to coast now. It's like you're up five nothing 1035 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,920 to baseball or 21 three in the NFL. 1036 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,680 We know it's different, but at least there was a competitive 1037 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,280 tone and they still just didn't get back on defense. 1038 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:26,320 So with all due respect to Kenny Atkinson, who I really do admire 1039 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,880 and and and I'm rooting for because he is a local guy, of 1040 00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:31,560 course not this series. I wasn't informed, but I think 1041 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,120 he's a terrific coach. I thought he was done dirty by 1042 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:33,880 the Nets. Whatever. 1043 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,320 Nobody wants to hear that. Like if Mike Brown said that 1044 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,760 last night and the Knicks were on the other end of the beat 1045 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,640 down like the Cavs were, I'd be getting on the air. 1046 00:51:41,720 --> 00:51:44,160 I promise you, I'll be getting on the air right now and saying 1047 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,800 Mike Brown's got to go get rid of him. 1048 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,320 Gone Loser mentality not going to work. 1049 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,480 Fire him. So you know what is this guy see 1050 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,560 to me this is the we'll get some calls, but can we get this guy 1051 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,760 to call in? I I want to have this 1052 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,840 conversation with you know, I don't even know your name at 1053 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,320 PG17 under score 89. I'm going to guess you were a 1054 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,520 point guard. If I can extrapolate here, I 1055 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,360 don't. Think he's talking to you I 1056 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,800 don't think he's talking to you bro I think he's talking to 1057 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,680 someone in the chat I. Was going to say. 1058 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,840 Let's just say, let's just say listen PG 17. 1059 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,440 Listen, big time fan, big time follower of the program he 1060 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,280 likes. He likes getting into some jabs 1061 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,400 with I Got you with the other fans to say the least. 1062 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,360 OK, see, by the way, do you think that my instincts are 1063 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:30,720 right? He was a point guard who awarded 1064 00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:33,960 #17 who graduated in 89. I would love that. 1065 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:38,320 I mean, he could also be named, OK, well, this is just such an 1066 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,760 easy name, but that's this wouldn't be his actual name. 1067 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,520 He could be named like something like Paul George, you know, And 1068 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,120 his number was 17. Yep, Yep, yo, how about, how 1069 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:47,920 about shamit? How about? 1070 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,200 How about I just read? Something wait, I have a thing. 1071 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,080 I have a question that I wrote down for you about Shamit. 1072 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,680 Go ahead. OK, If you because he just made 1073 00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:00,560 himself millions. He just made himself millions 1074 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,600 this offseason. Yeah, probably, Honestly, 1075 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:09,560 probably about, I'd say probably about 30 to $40 million. 1076 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,320 Like in total of the contract? Yeah, OK, OK. 1077 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,600 No, no, no. I was going to say, I think he's 1078 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:20,320 making, I think 17 to 20, dude. Well, that's what I've got, 17 1079 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,440 to 20. Yeah, I mean, but you think 1080 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,920 either way, go ahead. Here's a crazier hypothetical. 1081 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:32,360 Yep, If you knew that you are going to sign an NBA player and 1082 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:37,800 they were going to go 12 for 13 in an NBA playoff series down 1083 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,320 the line, you don't know which playoff series, but you know at 1084 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:45,200 some point in your in your NBA playoff run, Yep, players gonna 1085 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,280 do that. How much per year you pay? 1086 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:51,520 It's a good question. If you know one time for one 1087 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:55,800 series, they are shooting 92% on the three-point line. 1088 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,560 Yeah, yeah. Make sure that you add not, not 1089 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,320 12 out of 13 overall, 12 out of 13 from behind the arc. 1090 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,480 Yes, yeah, from three. From three. 1091 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,480 That's a tough one. I would. 1092 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,840 I'm not trying to cop out. I'll get you an answer. 1093 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,640 I would have to know what else is there like, because if you 1094 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,800 don't have like a Brunson and and the cat dynamic and and two 1095 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,640 wings, like if he's like the second best player or third, 1096 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,600 that's probably not going to be enough to really do anything 1097 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,560 significant. If if you tell me that's the 7th 1098 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,680 or 8th man, 7th man, 6th Mike. Oh yeah, by the way, Deuce can 1099 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,200 knock him down too. I've always liked Shamit. 1100 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:32,920 I Remember Me and Sal getting into Shamit. 1101 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,720 I'm like, dude, I mean, he was at we we watched a couple of 1102 00:54:35,720 --> 00:54:39,200 Nick playoff games together last year in my backyard together 1103 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,000 with the fire pigs. He doesn't live too far for me 1104 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,520 and I was always on Sham like Shamit. 1105 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,920 I remember after one of the playoff games on the air, I'm 1106 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,120 like before he, you know, started playing well, I'm like, 1107 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,760 you got to play Shamit. He's like Shamit. 1108 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,240 I have always liked Shamit. I've always been a Shamit fan. 1109 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:57,120 He's perfect for the modern NBA, you know, now and his story is 1110 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:58,080 even amazing. He was. 1111 00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,560 We didn't even know he's going to be on the team. 1112 00:54:59,960 --> 00:55:01,720 Remember, they weren't sure what they were going to do. 1113 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,480 Oh, they were really, They were thinking about letting him go at 1114 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,280 a certain point or like maybe, you know, buying him out or 1115 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,360 whatever, waving him. That's crazy. 1116 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:14,000 He he he signed the unique contract and he signed it. 1117 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,960 It was the kind of like, no, I I think it was non guaranteed. 1118 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,840 I think. And then if you make the team, 1119 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:23,480 you it it's it's kind of, you know, whatever, it's an exercise 1120 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,440 where it becomes somewhat becomes guaranteed. 1121 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,640 Not a ton of money, you know, relative to his peers. 1122 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,440 But yeah, he went to camp and he had, I think he had some other 1123 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,360 situations and there were no promises. 1124 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,320 And if you remember, what what's the guy? 1125 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,280 Oh, Jesus, who was in camp? I've got so many names in my 1126 00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,840 head who they brought in. Somebody's going to text this or 1127 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:44,920 chat this. The veteran guard Malcolm 1128 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:45,840 Brogdon. Thank you. 1129 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:47,000 Thank you. Malcolm Brogdon. 1130 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,600 Wait. I I thought he was going to make 1131 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:50,360 the team. Me too. 1132 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,440 And, and I think that they thought that, like, if he 1133 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,760 doesn't retire, I think he's on the team. 1134 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,200 But I think Shabbat's gone. Oh yeah. 1135 00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,480 I I really, really do. It's amazing. 1136 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,000 So you've got to be good. Also got to be a little lucky. 1137 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,440 Yeah, a little bit. Circumstances. 1138 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,000 The health, all the things that could have happened that didn't. 1139 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:10,920 It is. It's amazing. 1140 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:11,560 Go ahead, Jay. I know you. 1141 00:56:11,720 --> 00:56:13,600 No. Brogdon I saw like a little 1142 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,360 Instagram, just it was like a meme. 1143 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,080 What do you say last night? Malcolm Brogdon Think about the 1144 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,920 NBA teams that he was on and what the team went on to do the 1145 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,960 next season. He was on the 2020 Milwaukee 1146 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:31,240 Bucks, he was on the 2023 Boston Celtics, and he was slated to be 1147 00:56:31,240 --> 00:56:33,640 on this Knicks team. Yep, yes. 1148 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,680 And I remember when I remember when that came to fruition. 1149 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,520 And I'm like, all right, champagne, good pedigree, good 1150 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,480 veteran. I've always respected Brogdin. 1151 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:46,200 I was so shocked that he retired this quickly and granted he has 1152 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,560 dealt with ACL injuries and a bunch of lower leg injuries 1153 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,680 throughout his career but man like he was still a solid 1154 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,760 player. He won six man of the year 2. 1155 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,720 Literally 2. Seasons ago, Twice, yeah. 1156 00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,320 Didn't he win it? Twice he won, we got. 1157 00:56:58,400 --> 00:56:59,480 Two years. He won it twice. 1158 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:00,040 Yeah. Yeah. 1159 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,960 For the player, probably. For the Bucks back in the day, 1160 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,280 yeah. It's a good question here, Avery 1161 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,680 Summit been with the channel for really from day one. 1162 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,880 By the way, what do we got there? 1163 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,240 How are the likes? How are the likes doing about? 1164 00:57:13,240 --> 00:57:15,440 It I got to, I got to pull it up on my phone and then I can 1165 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:16,920 check. Let's go get the likes up. 1166 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,960 Slam It 270 likes Slam. All right, at least. 1167 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,240 All right, so SBT, is there a single player on this Knicks 1168 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,680 team, from Brunson to Kolik? Who? 1169 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,480 Who you would be unhappy if your kid wanted their jersey? 1170 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,040 That is a good question. Goes to show the character of 1171 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,200 this roster is Immaculate. Hashtag be real. 1172 00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,640 Yeah. And listen, I don't know that I 1173 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:42,120 really thought about it through that prism, but I have thought 1174 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,960 about often how likable this group is. 1175 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,560 You know, I'm not trying to hide the Cat. 1176 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:51,080 Of course, Cat frustrated me, you know, at points and. 1177 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,480 And so every once in a while, still does, by the way, He's not 1178 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:58,680 perfect, but Bridges, you know, was the source of consternation 1179 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:02,720 for many. Not just me, but I mean, 1180 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:09,640 character, A+ human beings, selfless, playing for the guy 1181 00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:14,440 next to all the things that, you know, what if you coach or you 1182 00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,200 played? And it really doesn't matter 1183 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,480 what level, but as long as you have a good coach, you don't 1184 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,880 need Newt Rockney or Pat Riley or John Wooden. 1185 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,480 But if you were blessed to have a good coach, whether it was in 1186 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:30,280 the 4th grade, travel baseball, 7th grade CYO, college division, 1187 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:35,880 3D1 minors, majors, what overseas, if you had one of 1188 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,680 those types of coaches, that's kind of the message that they 1189 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,880 espouse, you know, before they get into the concepts and all 1190 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,080 that other stuff. You talk about playing for the 1191 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,080 for the guy next to you. You talk about being unselfish. 1192 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:53,840 Like those are very core components of team play, right? 1193 00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,520 More important in basketball and and hockey, a little less 1194 00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,880 important in baseball because it's more series of individual 1195 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,840 sports. But you still, you know, if if 1196 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,080 you're old for four and your buddy hits a three run shot and 1197 00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,360 and you're sulking in the corner because you had a rough game, 1198 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,280 well then you know you're not you're not being a good 1199 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:11,040 teammate. We know that. 1200 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,360 So I'm not saying it never pops up in baseball, but it's 1201 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,160 certainly more obvious. And especially when you have a 1202 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,280 chance to shoot, you just pass up a good shot for a better 1203 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:20,640 shot. Like a lot of the shitty teams 1204 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,800 aren't doing that. The Knicks character is just 1205 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,000 it's all time. It's all the, and really, it's 1206 00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,120 crazy because I always thought now they've got these, these 1207 00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,600 qualities as well. But every time we talk about the 1208 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,760 Knicks, there's always, you know, since for those of us who 1209 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,640 didn't see the championship teams, right, just the 90s and, 1210 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:41,280 and whatever, you know, like the Knicks have always been scrappy 1211 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,280 and tough and a little bit of an underdog status. 1212 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:47,360 You know, never like 2 or never two or three. 1213 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,640 You know, even though Kat and Brunson have made all NBA 1214 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,560 together as players, they did it last year. 1215 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,560 You know, I'm, I'm not saying it, it didn't happen at all. 1216 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:58,320 But nobody looks at Kat the way you look like Pippen to Jordan 1217 00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,320 or, you know, maybe a Kareem to Magic or a Mikhail to Berg. 1218 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,160 You know what I mean? No, no disrespect. 1219 01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,000 It's just a different level. It's a, it's a level lower, 1220 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:11,080 right? But they, they play, it's like a 1221 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,720 Symphony. It like everybody's got a a 1222 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,800 unique instrument. And everybody plays it to 1223 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,920 perfection. It really is amazing. 1224 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,720 And I remember the first thing that my dad told me about those 1225 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:27,200 championship teams was the unselfish nature, the IQ and how 1226 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:28,720 they really were great teammates. 1227 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,360 How they just they're passing and you just see it in the black 1228 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,960 and white or that the grainy color photo video, you know, of 1229 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,800 everybody kind of doing the right thing, You know, beautiful 1230 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,040 ball movement, getting the open shot guys knowing their role and 1231 01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:45,120 playing the way they were required to play to maximize 1232 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:49,880 what they did as a team. And that's what this team does. 1233 01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,160 You know, it's crazy because as much as we love the 90s teams, 1234 01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:55,600 Starks didn't always play that way. 1235 01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,280 Now, Starks always played with his hair on fire and like an 1236 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,680 absolute dog. So we give him a pass for, you 1237 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,280 know, jacking up some bad shots and having some rough nights. 1238 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,960 Starks is golden in, in my book, no matter what he did against 1239 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,760 the Rockets, whatever. But you didn't always get that 1240 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,640 with those teams. You know, there was a little 1241 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:16,120 friction, probably more than you guys know because I remember 1242 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:20,120 talking to Charles Oakley about this specifically and friction's 1243 01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:21,240 relative. I don't mean they were throwing 1244 01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,680 fists in the locker room, but you know, a little disconnect 1245 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,840 where Patrick was kind of doing his own thing and you know, some 1246 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,400 of the other guys kind of felt it and we're bothered by it to 1247 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,160 an to an extent. This Knicks team is just, they 1248 01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,240 are their Symphony. I don't know how else to say it. 1249 01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,960 They really are their Symphony. Everybody just sounds. 1250 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,120 It is beautiful music. All right, Jay, let's get a 1251 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:42,280 couple of calls up. Let's go. 1252 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,600 Let's get the likes going. Appreciate everybody hopping in. 1253 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:45,760 Go ahead. What do we have? 1254 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:50,680 Sir, we've got our friend Dan from Port Jefferson. 1255 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,080 Danny, Dan, can you hear us? I can hear you. 1256 01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:55,640 What up, Danny Boy? What's? 1257 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:57,560 Up beat D. What's going on, man? 1258 01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:57,960 How? Are you? 1259 01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,320 Oh man, Oh jeez, this is this run. 1260 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,960 It's like it's incredible. It's like unprecedented. 1261 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:06,160 I've never seen like it's 11 games and they're just 1262 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:10,600 dominating everybody, I think. What the two losses were dealt 1263 01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,400 with, the one point loss to the Hawks and then every other game 1264 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:14,960 they're just winning by double digits. 1265 01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:16,200 They're just completely dominating. 1266 01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,040 And they're doing it on the road that's they're doing. 1267 01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:19,280 It on the road. Too, man. 1268 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:24,760 I mean, 51 in Atlanta, 30 in Philly, and 37 in Cleveland. 1269 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,080 It's just crazy stuff. Yeah, these close out games too. 1270 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:29,960 Like what's the point? The point differential is 1271 01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,200 insane. Yeah, well, I think that they're 1272 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,880 +2. I got to update it from last 1273 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,000 night, +2 Whatever they are, I mean, they first of all, they've 1274 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:39,600 won. They've won by the average of 1275 01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:44,040 19.9 per game in the playoffs from game one against the halt. 1276 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,080 Like everything, it's just they are. 1277 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,120 They're destroying people destroying. 1278 01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,040 People and they made the Cavs quit. 1279 01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:53,240 I mean, in the in the halftime show, I don't know if you saw 1280 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:54,080 it. I saw it. 1281 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:58,040 Chuck, he puts a little thing on the on the screen of like, quit 1282 01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,720 and it's the Cavaliers. Yeah, I think he made it like a 1283 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,320 verb, right to quit. I saw he was. 1284 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:04,880 I'll tell you he was on a heater last night. 1285 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,080 I think at some point Kenny, Kenny, I think it was Kenny, but 1286 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:09,520 it could have been Jack, but I think it was Kenny. 1287 01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:11,760 Kenny's like, dude, what do we turn this into the Cavaliers 1288 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:13,560 roast? Because you know, at one point 1289 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:17,360 somebody said, you know, the Knicks and it was funny that he 1290 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,760 said this. I I forget who it was, may have 1291 01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:21,440 been already like you know, no, I already wouldn't have said 1292 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:26,400 this like putting the the boot to the Cavaliers ass and Charles 1293 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,920 like they put it up their Hess. Remember that he. 1294 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,960 Said it before the yeah yeah, I think even said it in the 1295 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,640 pregame. I thought that was at half, but 1296 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,480 either way they they were. Then you got the robots coming 1297 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:37,960 out. I mean, they were phenomenal 1298 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,440 last night, those guys. I know it's, it's great hearing 1299 01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,520 Chuck because like he usually hates on the Knicks all the 1300 01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:43,560 time. Yeah. 1301 01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,360 Well, I mean, let, let hold on, but let Danny, let's be honest 1302 01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:47,800 here. It's not like the Knicks have 1303 01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:51,440 given anybody who covers the NBA a lot of reasons to to to 1304 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:53,800 glorify them here. Trust me, I, I know, I 1305 01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,040 understand. I, I get it. 1306 01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:58,080 I mean, they've been so bad for so long and now they're just on 1307 01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,200 on top of the world until they get the next four wins. 1308 01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,960 They got to get that obviously and did. 1309 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:04,800 Did you catch James Harden in the post game? 1310 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,720 I did. Like is this guy delusional? 1311 01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,160 I I can't. James Harden to me is the guy 1312 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:14,600 that I just, yeah, I don't have any interest. 1313 01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:15,480 I don't have. Any I don't. 1314 01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,680 Like him like he's flopping and he just like says he's stupid 1315 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:19,760 he's. Not a winner, dude. 1316 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,280 That's the bottom line, Dan. Yeah, Oh yeah. 1317 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:23,440 Not winner. Not winner at all. 1318 01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,040 I mean at the at. The ultimate level. 1319 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,480 I mean, of course he's the winner in life and he's a great 1320 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:34,080 like to the peers, like the the assassins, the guys who are 1321 01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,280 possessed by winning, including Brunson. 1322 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,720 He just ain't that guy. No, he does not. 1323 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,680 He's never been that guy. No playoff Harden is like a real 1324 01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:43,080 thing. Like he just does not come 1325 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,120 through for. His Nope, I agree. 1326 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:50,280 I just saw a video of when he of James Harden, he was on the the 1327 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,280 Rockets when Chris Paul was there when they were like the in 1328 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,520 the huddle and like Chris Paul was like trying to like, you 1329 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,360 know, amp him up. But I'm not sure exactly what he 1330 01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,040 was saying. And then James Harden just wax 1331 01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:00,360 his hand. Like Chris Paul is trying to 1332 01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,600 give him like a pound. Like, no, let's go, let's go. 1333 01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:04,040 And then James Harden just wax him. 1334 01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:08,600 I'm like, this guy's just a bad teammate, the way he plays. 1335 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,280 Hey, listen, I guess what though, Danny ain't no problem 1336 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,520 man. No, no, no, not a problem. 1337 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:15,480 I know. It's never our problem. 1338 01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,800 Let's get these four wins now. Whoever it is, let's just get 1339 01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:19,880 it. Let's go, buddy. 1340 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,640 I know we'll be talking a lot next couple of weeks. 1341 01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:22,720 Thanks, Dan. Appreciate it. 1342 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,440 Here you go. How about this? 1343 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,480 Let's get another chat up here at Andrew Miller 513. 1344 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,200 I worry that the West plays a different game. 1345 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:32,520 I'm not poo poo with the Nixon in any way, but the fact that 1346 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,280 they didn't really get tested scares me a bit. 1347 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,800 Like a majority, like a major reality check might be coming. 1348 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:44,360 You know, I, I, I understand that fear to an extent, but I 1349 01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:49,120 don't, it's not the same as like say, I don't know why this is 1350 01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,200 popping into my head, but I'll give you an example here. 1351 01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:55,720 It's a million years ago, as many of my examples are, when 1352 01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,440 Bobby Hurley came in as a young player at Duke and they played 1353 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:03,480 Larry Johnson's UNLV run Rebels and got absolutely dismantled, 1354 01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,480 right? It was his first year dismantled 1355 01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,080 and then Bobby and company came back and beat him the next year, 1356 01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,120 that UNLV team. And I think it's a little bit 1357 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,320 more in college, even on the college football level, or even 1358 01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,480 like Tyson when he's in the ring with Buster Douglas in Japan. 1359 01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:23,440 And Buster's not going away when you are the bully, right? 1360 01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:28,280 And you know, you just you win, you get downhill immediately. 1361 01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,400 People fear you and people fear that you want to, you want. 1362 01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,880 I don't know why I can't say that you want LV team. 1363 01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,240 I'm just say the rebels, they feared, you know, that team, 1364 01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,600 everybody in the world feared Mike Tyson. 1365 01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,240 And even like, you know, another stupid deal. 1366 01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:46,880 Even when Drago gets cut, you see, he's not a machine. 1367 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:48,160 He's a man. Like you cut him. 1368 01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:52,480 And to me, when you get when you're a bully and you get cut, 1369 01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:56,760 you know, some bullies, most bullies go backwards rather than 1370 01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,560 going forwards. The Knicks aren't a bully like 1371 01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,120 the Knicks. And again, I know what you mean. 1372 01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,400 There's going to be first of all, they're not going to sweep 1373 01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,040 the finals. News flash, it's not going to 1374 01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,320 happen. They're going to play a 1375 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:09,680 different brand. They're going to play different 1376 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,360 players, different skill sets, different challenges, who if 1377 01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,400 they play the Thunder, they're playing a champion. 1378 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:15,880 I mean that that just start with that. 1379 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,920 If they play the Spurs, they're playing somebody who seems to be 1380 01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:25,040 the next version of Wilt, Kareem and and Jack and then him like 1381 01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,600 the modern version of of those three, right? 1382 01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:31,960 So it's not going to be easy. But I think the greatest asset 1383 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:35,680 of the Knicks, they have a slow heartbeat like the Knicks don't, 1384 01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:37,960 even though they they have gotten ahead and they have 1385 01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,200 played downhill and they have hit a barrage of threes and done 1386 01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,720 whatever they want in the half court, gotten out in transition, 1387 01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,920 gotten stops. I mean, going on these 1388 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,840 ridiculous, you know, 18 to 20 to two runs, basically whenever 1389 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,640 they want and winning by, you know, 30 plus points multiple 1390 01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:57,200 times in each round. Like I think I would be a little 1391 01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,960 concerned if I felt like that's the only way that they can win. 1392 01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,640 But because they can play different types of stuff, like 1393 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,160 listen, fights, you know, styles make fights. 1394 01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,720 And you know, if it's going to be a race to 130 getting up and 1395 01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,160 down the court, we've seen the Knicks can do that because 1396 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,320 they've got a ton of guys who can shoot and they got a lot of 1397 01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:14,800 guys who can finish on the wing as well. 1398 01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:18,720 If it's half court, you know, and and and and you're you're 1399 01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,359 running the ball more through cat now, ideally it's going to 1400 01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:22,840 be a hybrid. You're not you're not going to 1401 01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,520 like run all night like the Lakers with Magic and you're not 1402 01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,600 going to take the air out of the ball like, you know, like it's 1403 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:33,560 1959 or whatever and black and white team, you know, in in on 1404 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:35,800 on like you see the old highlights like a koozie and 1405 01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:37,120 amazing. But you're not going to play 1406 01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:38,680 like that. I think you're going to get a 1407 01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,520 mixture of running up and down, banging threes and then doing 1408 01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,319 what you have to do what it calls for in the half court. 1409 01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,760 But I think they're equipped to do that And the DNA of the team. 1410 01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:50,399 We keep saying it, but I think it really is worth saying now 1411 01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:54,200 based on that, that fear, that question that I just read like 1412 01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,720 it's it all started. And obviously with Leon Rose and 1413 01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:59,960 Dolan staying out of the way and of course, blah, blah, blah. 1414 01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:03,800 Moving on from Tom Pivotal. Tom pivotal bringing consistency 1415 01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:07,240 and toughness and energy and focus night tonight. 1416 01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,800 And Julius Randle was a piece of that puzzle for sure. 1417 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,920 Shout out respect to him. He got it going and then more 1418 01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:14,479 talent brought it to where we are now. 1419 01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:17,800 But what do we always say about these Knicks, the Nova Knicks? 1420 01:09:18,279 --> 01:09:21,880 And Brunson's got it, and Hearts got it, and Bridges has him, and 1421 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,319 Debo had it. And I wish Debo was here rather 1422 01:09:24,319 --> 01:09:27,120 than on crutches watching right now with that ruptured Achilles. 1423 01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:32,160 But I do believe that they had the character, if they fall 1424 01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,560 behind two games to one in the series or one game to none or 1425 01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,479 whatever it might be, or, you know, they're down by 10, but 1426 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,200 they were down. Think about what they did last 1427 01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,040 year against the Celtics. You know how they came back 1428 01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:47,319 twice from 20 points. So we've seen it before, again, 1429 01:09:47,319 --> 01:09:49,840 different matchups, different rosters, different styles. 1430 01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:53,319 I'm not saying it's absolutely going to equate to previous 1431 01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,360 comebacks, but we know that they've got it in them. 1432 01:09:56,360 --> 01:10:00,040 So you could be aware of it, but I it's not a fear of mine. 1433 01:10:00,440 --> 01:10:03,320 It's not, you know, it's I really don't have much fear with 1434 01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:06,600 this team right now. It's confidence, not arrogance, 1435 01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,280 it's confidence. It's hope, it's enjoyment, it's 1436 01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:13,520 pride. You know, you just hope that 1437 01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:17,760 they finished the race and I'm not, you know, I'm not going to 1438 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,320 guarantee that they will. I want to see who they're 1439 01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,160 playing. I want to see what happens in 1440 01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:25,000 these next couple of games here. But I mean, we're four away. 1441 01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,160 We're four away from all the shit that we've talked about. 1442 01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,880 But all these years about this team. 1443 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,760 I remember being asked to be part and I said no because I'm 1444 01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,400 I'm just not that kind of guy. But I remember being asked to be 1445 01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:41,680 a part of an anti Dolan anti Knicks demonstration in front of 1446 01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:44,360 Madison Square Garden. I'm like, you guys do that. 1447 01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,360 Like I think I was even doing the Nick Supreme poem. 1448 01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,480 I'm like, I probably shouldn't do it, you know, even though I 1449 01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:52,440 wanted to, you know, But now it's like the the the entire 1450 01:10:52,440 --> 01:10:55,800 energy has changed. And it's almost like Dolan, who 1451 01:10:55,800 --> 01:11:00,920 seemed for so long like the anti hero, like he just reveled in 1452 01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,600 being despised. I know that that sounds crazy. 1453 01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:07,440 Just got sitting there like this courtside looking miserable and 1454 01:11:07,440 --> 01:11:10,160 frumpy. But if you see a lot of these 1455 01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,360 videos after the games, now you got James Dolan coming out of a 1456 01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:17,520 limo or, you know, you know, a nice, nice SUV which signed 1457 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,080 basketballs and interacting with the fans. 1458 01:11:20,440 --> 01:11:22,920 Hey, Woody, take it take. I never thought I'd say Woody, 1459 01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:26,480 if Woody Johnson could become James Dolan, we got some good 1460 01:11:26,480 --> 01:11:29,120 stuff coming. Just watch what he's done. 1461 01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:30,360 You know which. Is why. 1462 01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,360 Imagine saying that 10 years ago. 1463 01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:33,480 Oh my. Gosh. 1464 01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:38,080 But This is why. This is why I don't like, I 1465 01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,800 don't believe that bad ownership is terminal like I don't, I know 1466 01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,480 it seems that way with Woody. I know it seemed that way with 1467 01:11:44,480 --> 01:11:46,640 Dolan. I know it seemed that way at 1468 01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:50,000 times with the Wilpons and other ownership groups throughout the 1469 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:51,960 entire country with different teams, right? 1470 01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:55,880 But to me now, if you're a team that doesn't spend the money, 1471 01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,720 like you just don't reinvest, that's different. 1472 01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:00,440 I can't help you. I mean, there's got to be a 1473 01:12:00,440 --> 01:12:03,720 certain threshold that you're willing to hit if you're truly 1474 01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,000 willing to compete and go for it, right? 1475 01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:10,080 And all of the teams in New York have that, but some other teams 1476 01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:13,160 in other cities don't, right? But if you spend the money, and 1477 01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:15,560 Dolan was never reluctant to spend, he just didn't know how 1478 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,680 to spend it and he didn't know how to stay out of the way, it 1479 01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,240 really just takes 1 smart decision. 1480 01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:25,120 And once you see early evidence of that decision paying off and 1481 01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,560 coming to fruition, you got to know to lay out. 1482 01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,560 And that's what James Dolan changed. 1483 01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:34,640 He gave he basically said he basically said, Leon, save me, 1484 01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,680 help me, save me. All right, you got all the 1485 01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:40,960 juice. Do whatever you want and I'm 1486 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,440 going to be there. I'm cutting the checks, all 1487 01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:47,960 right. And Leon Rose has proven to be 1488 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:52,680 the most valuable hire. I mean, you know, I mean, let's 1489 01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:55,280 I I would say Pat Riley, but Pat didn't win. 1490 01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:59,840 So I can't even say Pat. You know, I mean, shit, even 1491 01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:01,960 even if the Knicks weren't to win the champ, weren't to win 1492 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:05,880 the championship here, it's not like they have their windows 1493 01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,400 sealed shut and everybody's 34 years old and it's over. 1494 01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,080 You know, you're 1 little creative roster tweak away. 1495 01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,640 I don't mean blowing it up from, you know, being in a position 1496 01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,400 to, you know, battle for a championship for a couple years. 1497 01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:18,560 I think it's going to be very tough. 1498 01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:22,000 It's going to get tougher, which is why you've got to cash in 1499 01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:25,560 this year. But I mean, the transformation 1500 01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:30,240 of James Dolan is nothing short of absolutely amazing. 1501 01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:34,040 It's stunning because he finally stayed out of the way. 1502 01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:38,120 It's not that bad. Bad owners never hire the right 1503 01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,440 person. Sometimes you hire the right 1504 01:13:40,440 --> 01:13:43,920 person and you know your petulance, or I'm not even 1505 01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:45,840 talking about Dolan now, although he was very petulant 1506 01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,280 for many years. Your petulance or your lack of 1507 01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:51,040 vision or your stubbornness, whatever it might be, gets in 1508 01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:55,000 the way of the early stages of a plan that may have actually 1509 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:56,360 worked. You just never gave it enough 1510 01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,920 chance to bake and to grow and to evolve. 1511 01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,160 And that that that worries me about Woody Johnson. 1512 01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:04,120 You know, I'm not I'm not going to turn this into a jet. 1513 01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,240 You know, what do you think? But to contrast it to the and it 1514 01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:09,240 terrified me about the Knicks, obviously, because what I always 1515 01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:14,240 worried about now he's proven to have moved on and grown from 1516 01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:16,600 this Dolan. What I was worried about with 1517 01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,760 Dolan, aside from, well, the ridiculousness, which we talked 1518 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:24,560 about chapter and verse, my fear was that when the Knicks finally 1519 01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,360 got to the precipice of a championship, like he was going 1520 01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:30,080 to want to be the guy that got all the credit, you know? 1521 01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,640 And I don't I don't think that he's like that. 1522 01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,320 Like he always stayed out of the way of the Rangers. 1523 01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:38,760 Now the Knicks, you know, Rangers, I'm not taking a shot 1524 01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:40,560 at hockey, but there's just a lot more Knicks fans than the 1525 01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:43,560 Royal Ranger fans. Like NBA is more popular than 1526 01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,240 the NHL, right? We can't agree on that. 1527 01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:47,520 I'm sorry. It's no disrespect. 1528 01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,720 Hockey's great. Those guys are warriors. 1529 01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:52,600 It's the best trophy in sports. I've got respect for hockey, but 1530 01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:56,280 it's it's not the same, right? So I know a lot of people have 1531 01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:57,880 an issue with that. It's not a diss. 1532 01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,040 It's my reality. If it's something, if you have 1533 01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:01,320 something else, that's fine. I respect that. 1534 01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,960 But the point is, is that I feel the same way about Woody, like 1535 01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,280 my biggest fear. And Woody ain't getting the 1536 01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,640 benefit of anything because he's been an absolute train wreck, 1537 01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,760 right? So to me, Woody's one of these 1538 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,840 dudes who's seeking all the glory, like Woody Johnson. 1539 01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:19,280 It's almost like it's like, yeah, I'm not calling him the 1540 01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:20,360 little nerd. I don't want to. 1541 01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:22,640 I'm not getting personal. But that's like the little nerd 1542 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,120 in school who wants the validation. 1543 01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:27,760 Like, I feel like Woody, you know, needs the validation. 1544 01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:29,960 And my fear is like, when things start getting. 1545 01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,440 And I think that they're getting in a better spot now because, 1546 01:15:32,440 --> 01:15:34,160 you know, I have full belief in Muji. 1547 01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:35,400 Different story with Aaron Glenn. 1548 01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:38,880 We'll see, but like, if The Jets start incrementally getting a 1549 01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:42,320 little bit better, which I believe that they will, and then 1550 01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,720 it stagnates for a second, does that petulance come back? 1551 01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,960 Does he make them talk about Woody do something that now 1552 01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,600 derails the progress and we're back to phase one? 1553 01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,760 Like that is my legitimate fear with Woody because he spends 1554 01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,120 money. You know, they've drafted a lot 1555 01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,720 of good players now, a lot of Magan, like Sauce was good. 1556 01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,440 Q was good. You know, it's like they they 1557 01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:07,400 they had no players when when Joe Douglas was here. 1558 01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,840 But it really is like you can't talk about the Knicks today. 1559 01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:14,240 You can you can't talk about them and just gloss over and 1560 01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:17,440 say, hey, good job James Dolan. It's got to be more than that. 1561 01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,560 Because the vitriol, and he earned every ounce of it, the 1562 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:27,160 vitriol that we unleashed toward him, he earned it all. 1563 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,640 But it was hot. Like it was it was deep and it 1564 01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:34,040 was it was rough. And if you're going to come with 1565 01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:38,080 that energy, even though it was warranted, I believe, I don't 1566 01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:41,120 mean personal attacks, but everything else warranted, well, 1567 01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,840 you better be man enough to man up and say this man's changed. 1568 01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:48,480 And this man has hired smart people and allowed them what a 1569 01:16:48,480 --> 01:16:51,960 concept to do their job and stay out of the way. 1570 01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,000 You know, I met James Dolan twice. 1571 01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:58,360 You want to hear When I met him? Yeah, I mean of course of. 1572 01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:00,520 Course not. A very impressive exchange here. 1573 01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:05,240 So Isaiah's coach of the Knicks, all right, And I'm doing a pre 1574 01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:08,120 and a post game and the halftime show for the Knicks on the radio 1575 01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:10,000 back in the day. And I would go and I would 1576 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:13,240 interview Isaiah before every game in his office. 1577 01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:15,520 Which which was cool, I got a lot of times. 1578 01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,960 Oh. My God, yes, I liked Isaiah. 1579 01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:20,880 I I truly did. He he, he was cool. 1580 01:17:21,480 --> 01:17:25,600 And one time we were wrapping up and me and Zeke were just kind 1581 01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,720 of shooting the shit. They was not good. 1582 01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:30,800 Like there was more bury. There was they, they were mess. 1583 01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,520 They were more contro. Whatever the problem was we were 1584 01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,680 talking about, it was being pretty honest with me and where 1585 01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:39,640 his office was in the in, I guess, I guess it still is for 1586 01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:43,120 Mike Brown in the bowels of the garden, although it's it's been 1587 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:44,880 reconfigured so maybe it's in a different spot. 1588 01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:47,440 Actually, I think it is, but the Nick's lock room is right there. 1589 01:17:47,440 --> 01:17:49,720 Anyway, I'm wrapping up. We do the interview on talking 1590 01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:57,600 to Zeke, Knock knock incomes Dolan, Steve Mills, shit, one or 1591 01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:59,120 two other big Nick executives right. 1592 01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:04,960 And now it's incumbent upon me. I'm just a little tiny radio guy 1593 01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:08,200 and the and the Knicks and Dolan had to clear me to do it. 1594 01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,800 So I was very thankful. I don't expect him to introduce 1595 01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:14,000 himself to me. I'm just a little a little peon. 1596 01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:15,720 He owns the Knicks. I'm going to I'm going to show 1597 01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:19,120 the respect. All right, So I introduced 1598 01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:22,800 myself and I shake his hand and I'm like, and I said to myself, 1599 01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:25,840 just get out. Like, it's not, it's not a good 1600 01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,440 meeting that, you know, she didn't even look me in the eye, 1601 01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:30,000 right? Yeah, yeah. 1602 01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,760 Like I get all the shit going on, but still. 1603 01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:36,120 All right, I'm like, OK. And then like a month later, it 1604 01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:38,880 happened again. And I got the, I got a symbol 1605 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,120 that were sitting out the times that things were not getting 1606 01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:42,240 better. So it's not like he was in a 1607 01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:47,160 different mood, but same thing. Barely shook my hand, didn't 1608 01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,760 look at me. And I and I remember saying, 1609 01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,160 fuck that. I I'll never, I'll never say 1610 01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:55,360 I'll never, I'll never say hi to him again, you know, but you've 1611 01:18:55,360 --> 01:19:00,680 got to be again, you know, aware and, and and big boy enough to 1612 01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,680 understand that, you know, I mean, first of all, people can 1613 01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,240 change. But even if he even if he would 1614 01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:10,480 do that today, the job that he's done as the owner of the. 1615 01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:13,040 Knicks is what really matters. You'd have to go. 1616 01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:15,440 Hey, I still respect it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1617 01:19:15,440 --> 01:19:16,000 I remember. I was. 1618 01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:17,040 I was. Annoyed with the second time. 1619 01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:18,720 I'm like, I'm never shaking his hand again. 1620 01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:20,920 That's too fun. But you've seen the videos of 1621 01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:22,560 him coming out of the the cars, right? 1622 01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:25,280 He's been like, absolutely. I remember he came up to 1623 01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:26,640 somebody the other day. They're like, who's your 1624 01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,160 favorite Nick, right. He said it. 1625 01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:30,800 He's like, who's your favorite Nick of all time? 1626 01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:34,960 And I, I think the kid said the guy said Clyde just hands him a 1627 01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:36,880 basketball with Clyde Frazier signed. 1628 01:19:37,440 --> 01:19:39,520 Like that is a connectivity that is awesome. 1629 01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:43,320 And credit and credit to him for capitalizing on that. 1630 01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,400 He could very easily just go his own way and go back to his 1631 01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:49,560 palatial, you know, get on the chopper, go out to the Hamptons. 1632 01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,680 It is, you know, 80 or $90,000,000 compound, whatever 1633 01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:55,400 he's got and remain disconnected from the world. 1634 01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:57,800 He's got that kind of money. He's got that kind of affluence, 1635 01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:02,200 but give him a lot of credit there. 300 likes Drop them. 300 1636 01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:06,240 likes We need 300 likes, right? Now you tell them baby, this 1637 01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:11,360 instant. OK couple First off the chat, I 1638 01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,520 just I've been loving this. I don't know if you saw it in 1639 01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,440 the top in the bottom left. I have not just been. 1640 01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:23,400 Rattling off every, you know, down rotten Knicks player Frank 1641 01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:26,240 Langston Galloway. Galloway was a guard. 1642 01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:27,560 Roddy Baker. Hold on. 1643 01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:28,040 Hold on. Hold on. 1644 01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:28,680 Go through. Hold on. 1645 01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:30,520 Who was the last one? Rodney Baker. 1646 01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:32,320 Roddy Baker. I thought Wichita State. 1647 01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:33,280 I thought he was going to be good. 1648 01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,400 Rod Baker, Chris Duhon from Duke. 1649 01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:36,400 Point guard. Keep going. 1650 01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:40,600 Who else? Yes, I think he went to 1651 01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:42,240 Michigan. I I couldn't be awful. 1652 01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:43,040 Was he a Michigan? Kid. 1653 01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:46,000 Yeah, I believe so. He was pretty solid there too. 1654 01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:47,920 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he may have been a 1655 01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:50,600 lefty, too. Mike Sweetney. 1656 01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:52,800 I was at the draft when they drafted him. 1657 01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:55,680 Yeah, he was top 10 from Georgetown. 1658 01:20:55,960 --> 01:21:00,960 Who else we got here? Who else? 1659 01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:02,200 Who else we got there? Who else? 1660 01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:03,960 James. I've never even heard of it. 1661 01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:04,960 James. White. 1662 01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:08,760 I believe he was a forward I I remember it's also a very common 1663 01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:10,680 name. Maybe I'm conflated with some 1664 01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:12,880 other, but I feel like I really do remember him. 1665 01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:14,960 Who else? I think it like James Young. 1666 01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,320 This is the number one guy. Oh, absolutely. 1667 01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:21,160 The man bun. He's mentioned Louie had the man 1668 01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:22,560 bun. He had the big man bun. 1669 01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:23,840 The going on. Yeah, of course. 1670 01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:25,560 Remember Louie? Vonley. 1671 01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,400 Noah Vonley, I remember him, played for the Magic for a 1672 01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:30,640 little bit as well. Tony Douglas. 1673 01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:32,960 Florida State. I like Tony Douglas. 1674 01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:34,400 Tony Douglas was going to be good. 1675 01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:37,200 Oh, God, I thought half these guys were going to be good. 1676 01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,320 Stevie Francis. I remember, hold on. 1677 01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:43,640 I remember doing a the postgame show. 1678 01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:45,720 We you could easily check. It doesn't matter. 1679 01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,600 But Stevie Francis, I believe it was down in nation's capital 1680 01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:52,400 against the Wizards hit a buzzer beater and the Knicks absolutely 1681 01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:54,880 sucked. And he stood up on the scores 1682 01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:58,840 table or did something crazy. It was like Marbury and Francis 1683 01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:00,960 and Crawford. Now, Stevie was nice. 1684 01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:05,120 Stevie was nice at Maryland. Stevie was nice in the NBA 1685 01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:08,160 before his knees. But Stevie Francis, you know, 1686 01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:11,080 but yeah, I remember that that game winner against, I believe 1687 01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:12,040 it was the Wizards. Go ahead. 1688 01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:13,040 Who else we got? Anybody else? 1689 01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:15,240 We got some old. Malik Rose. 1690 01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:17,160 Malik was one of my favorite guys ever. 1691 01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:22,320 He was my go to guy from Drexel. Anybody question my Knick fandom 1692 01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:24,640 suck on this. Let's see how many people that 1693 01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:26,920 you listen to could run through this without anything in front 1694 01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:28,920 of them. I see a name, I give you a story 1695 01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:30,960 so stop with that nonsense Malik. 1696 01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:34,320 What I loved about Malik Rose now he was on those bad teams 1697 01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:37,440 with Marbury and those guys. Malik Rose was always my go to 1698 01:22:37,440 --> 01:22:39,080 guy. Jamal Crawford as well and David 1699 01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,800 Lee too. But Malik was the OG that the 1700 01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,240 Jedi cuz he came from those spurs teams that won the 1701 01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:44,960 champion. Really. 1702 01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:47,160 OK, yeah, yeah. And he played against my buddy 1703 01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,200 that I grew up with in college. Malik was at at Drexel, my buddy 1704 01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:52,000 was at Hofstra. So we talked. 1705 01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:53,760 That's how I kind of started the relationship. 1706 01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:55,040 He's like, Oh yeah, I remember Jimmy. 1707 01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:56,840 So we talked about that a little bit. 1708 01:22:56,840 --> 01:23:01,400 He was always a great voice of, of, of realness of, of where 1709 01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,200 they were. And he would just tell me he's 1710 01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:06,080 like this team man, like he was, you know, he just said he don't, 1711 01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:06,960 don't say that. I said it. 1712 01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,360 But, you know, we're not this and we're not professional, 1713 01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:10,640 whatever, whatever it might be. Like. 1714 01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:13,280 I love Malik Rose. Who else said the other name? 1715 01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:15,520 Old Penny. Penny. 1716 01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:17,760 Yeah. Old, old old Jalen Rose came out 1717 01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:19,840 for a minute. Barnyani. 1718 01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:21,200 Yeah. I actually got excited for 1719 01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:24,120 Barnyadi because he was, you know, he he average juice. 1720 01:23:24,480 --> 01:23:27,480 He scored like 21 or 22 points a game for the Raptors at one 1721 01:23:27,480 --> 01:23:28,560 point there. Barnyadi. 1722 01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:32,000 And we'll end it on this Eddie F and Curry. 1723 01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:35,600 Oh, God, that Eddie, Eddie, Eddie Curry was one of the more 1724 01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,320 frustrating people that I had to go. 1725 01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:41,640 That we that we not I, that we went through because Eddie Curry 1726 01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:47,040 was incredibly talented and you wound up having a heart issue, 1727 01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,640 which was a problem for Eddie. He just, he just wasn't a 1728 01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,320 serious professional man. He did not take his cramps. 1729 01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:54,480 And I'm not trying to shit on him now. 1730 01:23:54,480 --> 01:23:55,920 He's, you know, he's he's not playing. 1731 01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,320 I'm not trying to, you know, take a shot here, but just 1732 01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:00,920 reacting to these names. He was never in shape. 1733 01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:04,040 And I remember like, you know, going into he wasn't here for 1734 01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:05,840 that long, but for the couple of seasons, especially when they 1735 01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:09,600 first got him for the Bulls, where I liked it because I'm 1736 01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,240 like, he's young. Remember, he was drafted at a 1737 01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:13,160 high school along with Tyson Chandler. 1738 01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:16,440 And I'm like, this guy's big. He's a decent athlete. 1739 01:24:16,440 --> 01:24:18,280 You know, I'd have to think he's going to get in better shape. 1740 01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,800 Pretty good hands, pretty nimble for a big guy. 1741 01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:22,680 And he just, and he had everyone. 1742 01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,560 So he'd have a throwback night where I'm like, there we go, 23 1743 01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:27,040 and 11. It's coming. 1744 01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:31,600 The amount of time that I talked about Eddie Curry as a 1745 01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:36,080 potential, not savior, but as a stabilizer and all that, how 1746 01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,200 much of a waste of energy that was. 1747 01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:40,800 Oh my God, who else? Keep them coming, dude. 1748 01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:43,720 I mean, this is fun. This is fun because I'm seeing 1749 01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,120 ones that are like, horrified. Benny Baker. 1750 01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:48,120 Benny Baker. From listen, I know he had a 1751 01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:50,800 similar kind of thing to Eddie Curry where he dealt with some 1752 01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:52,640 off court. Issues yeah, well, he had he he 1753 01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:55,760 went to rehab, he was, but he was alcohol issue he was he's. 1754 01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,800 Like one of those forgotten All Stars of the 90s. 1755 01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:03,200 He was, he was great for. The box I believe Benny was 1756 01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:06,600 number 42 from Hartford University from from up in 1757 01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:10,600 Connecticut, obviously was with the Bucs All Star team came 1758 01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:12,680 here. Vinny Baker, wow, who else we 1759 01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:15,920 got? I remember him guard. 1760 01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,040 This is fun. What a game this is Keep. 1761 01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:22,520 It let's go old Dikembe. Rest in peace, Dikembe. 1762 01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:25,080 RIPRIP. Great, great. 1763 01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:27,360 Absolutely. And Drake Vice I. 1764 01:25:27,440 --> 01:25:29,520 Mean, first of all, you spelled it wrong, but I get the point 1765 01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:32,320 and I'm not I'm not going to bank on it, was Weis. 1766 01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:33,840 I'm not going to bank on Freddie Weiss. 1767 01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:37,840 He, he had some real issues like his run with the Knicks and in 1768 01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,640 the NBA. Well, with just with the Knicks, 1769 01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,880 you know, not not literally with the Knicks, but all the stuff 1770 01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:46,800 that went down when they drafted him over on our test led him to 1771 01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:50,120 a very dark place. I don't know if it was pills or 1772 01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:52,920 oh, wow, like the contemplation. I believe he contemplated 1773 01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:54,680 killing himself. Like I'm, I'm not going to beg 1774 01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,440 on Freddie, Vice said. But we all, we all know. 1775 01:25:57,440 --> 01:25:59,080 What? I mean, wait, we've got our man 1776 01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:01,480 in the call room. We'll pull him up in a SEC. 1777 01:26:01,480 --> 01:26:03,040 Anybody going to stump me by the way? 1778 01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:07,720 I just ran through. Dirty I I kind of disagree with 1779 01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:09,840 this one a little bit. Seth, I don't know. 1780 01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:13,520 Is Kyle Quinn really? Was he really that horrific? 1781 01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:16,400 No, no, no. He wasn't a great center, but he 1782 01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:18,080 wasn't like no. Horrible. 1783 01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:20,120 I agree with you. He was from Queens, I believe. 1784 01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,880 I know he's a local kid, Kyle. Oh, yeah, I liked him. 1785 01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,440 Thick, strong, tough. Now I got no, I had no problems. 1786 01:26:25,440 --> 01:26:28,160 I mean, the teams weren't good. But no, I got no disrespect. 1787 01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,280 Shane Larkin. Shane Larkin. 1788 01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,280 Oh my God almighty. OK, I thought this guy was 1789 01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:36,400 decently solid, too. He wasn't good for the Knicks, 1790 01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:39,440 not never mind no Wayne. Was he a Carolina? 1791 01:26:39,440 --> 01:26:41,840 Where'd he play in college? Carolina, probably. 1792 01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:44,560 I remember him for Lakers and he. 1793 01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:46,400 Maybe I'm off on that season. He just double check Wayne 1794 01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:50,680 Ellington was it you win C. Yep, there. 1795 01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:52,480 You go. Who else we got? 1796 01:26:52,480 --> 01:26:54,120 What was the one after Wayne or before it? 1797 01:26:54,480 --> 01:26:55,920 One more Courtney. Lee. 1798 01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:58,480 Oh yeah, Courtney Lee, Shooter, a little guard. 1799 01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,120 And here. Here's another ultimate one I 1800 01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:03,600 like to teach you about that I liked him. 1801 01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:08,280 No way really. I remember that was, you know 1802 01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:09,880 where he went, you know what trade he was in. 1803 01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:14,440 Well wait, did he get traded to the Knicks or away from the 1804 01:27:14,440 --> 01:27:15,360 Knicks? Away. 1805 01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:17,720 Oh gosh, oh gosh. Jr. 1806 01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:19,720 Smith and Aman Shumpert. What, what? 1807 01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:20,520 What? No, wasn't he with? 1808 01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:24,200 He wasn't it Mozgov and Chandler and he wasn't to Denver? 1809 01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:27,160 You and Carmelo. You right, You they. 1810 01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:29,920 Sent like 4 guys there. It was definitely Chandler, 1811 01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:33,200 definitely Gallo, because Gallo played well before he ripped up 1812 01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:35,160 his knee. Timber Faye Mozgoff. 1813 01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:38,480 Yeah, Timber Faye. I mean he was the original 1814 01:27:38,480 --> 01:27:42,320 overpaid NBA player like. There's a lot of them, dude. 1815 01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:44,640 No, no, no. He was not the I'm going to, was 1816 01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:46,720 he not? Mama, Mama. 1817 01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:49,920 Modern 2016 era but school me, school me, school me. 1818 01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:51,720 Stop I'm I'm going to school you here. 1819 01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,440 Look up the name John Konkak Jay. 1820 01:27:54,440 --> 01:27:59,640 I believe it's Joni don't even think there was an HJONKONCAK 1821 01:27:59,920 --> 01:28:03,960 and just have contract. John Konkak in the late 80s or 1822 01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:08,760 early 90s got a big deal from I believe it was the Atlanta Hawks 1823 01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:12,200 and he became the poster. As a you dude, you weren't even 1824 01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:13,280 born so I don't expect you to know it. 1825 01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:17,440 It's all good, but this was this guy talking about going into a 1826 01:28:17,440 --> 01:28:20,360 bank and stealing. I'm looking at his numbers. 1827 01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:24,560 Dude was making an NBA contract that you could make today. 1828 01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:25,600 Yeah. What was the number? 1829 01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:26,480 What? What was it? 1830 01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:31,960 Six years, 13 million and he was averaging 2 points. 1831 01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:36,520 I told you, yeah, that was. A2 points A, you're right. 1832 01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:38,600 What year did he get that contract again? 1833 01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:45,440 He got that contract in the year 1989 I. 1834 01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:49,440 Said 89 or early I'm late in these early nights OK, so in 1835 01:28:49,440 --> 01:28:52,560 eight I've got a stats up here and John was announced one of 1836 01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:58,000 these guys who was a very good college player, John Konkak. 1837 01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:00,280 He was an SMU. You didn't see him on TV a lot, 1838 01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,960 but he could he was I remember hearing his name I remember 1839 01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:06,160 seeing him in like Sports Illustrated, like the top 25. 1840 01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:09,120 I would always like cut out the pictures of, you know, of the 1841 01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:10,720 Big East players, put them on my door. 1842 01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:13,680 And I'm so I, I was pretty familiar with John in college. 1843 01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:19,680 So we signed it in 89 and then he comes back and he averaged 1844 01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,320 3.7 points per game off that contract. 1845 01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:29,440 Then he went for 4.13 point 1. And I mean jeez, I mean 3.5. 1846 01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:34,160 Like the guy shouldn't have even been remotely touching a cord 1847 01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:37,880 but as an MBA player. Listen, let's just call it the 1848 01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:42,000 way it is and, and the NBA used to have a lot of these guys and 1849 01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:45,000 no disrespect to John, John Konkak was one of those 7 foot 1850 01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:47,560 white guys who couldn't do anything but bring 6 fouls to 1851 01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:49,120 the table. I mean, that's it. 1852 01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:51,680 I mean, there was no European influence yet. 1853 01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:55,560 There was no step backs and no, no look passes like, you know, 1854 01:29:55,560 --> 01:30:00,160 like Sabonis coming from from Russia or obviously players 1855 01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:03,920 today and there's a ton of them. But no, he was just he was a 1856 01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:06,360 stiff. I couldn't move, couldn't run, 1857 01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:08,000 couldn't jump, couldn't, couldn't do anything. 1858 01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:12,080 But he had 6 fouls and back then, I know it sounds crazy you 1859 01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:15,480 needed dudes like that. You needed guys who were, no, he 1860 01:30:15,480 --> 01:30:18,520 wasn't an enforcer like Oakley, but he had no problem, you know, 1861 01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:21,720 fouling you and playing, you know, he was played with 1862 01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:23,720 Dominique and those guys. Those were good teams. 1863 01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:27,920 This, this one, this literally sent like a chill. 1864 01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:31,960 Like, I saw this name and I was like, yeah, this dude is the 1865 01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:35,320 epitome of like, you know, no dishes, no. 1866 01:30:35,440 --> 01:30:36,840 Like, we get it, he's a. Hooper. 1867 01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:43,560 He is the literal epitome of like holy NBA NBA player. 1868 01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:45,400 Yep. Holy NBA player. 1869 01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:47,800 I've got a better one. I'm not trying to top you and 1870 01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:50,720 trust me, that fits right. By the way, this is turning into 1871 01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:52,080 a fun bit. I mean, I love this. 1872 01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:56,840 I mean, I'm seeing Joshi Shinjo Mets. 1873 01:30:56,840 --> 01:31:00,200 OK, OK, OK, OK. I'll field her. 1874 01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:03,040 I think he had like orange hair. Shinjo and Mets. 1875 01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:05,200 He probably bet in 3rd for the Mets now. 1876 01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:08,320 Freaking Mets. This weekend was crazy for that. 1877 01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:13,600 Also, I had a let me just give a quick 10 second aside this 1878 01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:17,440 weekend I became addicted. I don't know if your son's into 1879 01:31:17,440 --> 01:31:19,480 this to MLB The Show. Oh. 1880 01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:23,040 Yeah, he's got it. It has got me in a baseball 1881 01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:24,960 hole. I don't think life, I don't 1882 01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:26,640 think I don't think I ever expected. 1883 01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:28,480 Dude, I'm watching documentaries. 1884 01:31:28,480 --> 01:31:31,240 I'm watching vids. I watched like a whole an hour 1885 01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:34,920 thing on a rod yesterday just on like the most controversial 1886 01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:36,680 player to ever play. Are you serious? 1887 01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:39,320 I am deep right now, bro. Nice. 1888 01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:41,320 Actually, Alex. Just texted me before I'm trying 1889 01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:42,720 to get him on this week. Nice. 1890 01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,600 I saw I saw him courtside at the Knicks game last week. 1891 01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:51,800 Alex single now. Oh, OK, it's not a you know, I I 1892 01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:54,160 I love this ex-girlfriend. So I'm like, you know, I was, I 1893 01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:55,880 was surprised. OK, Rob. 1894 01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:58,880 And listen, maybe they get back together, but you know, in the 1895 01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:01,560 meantime, single Alex is going to be hitting that, hitting that 1896 01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:02,000 path. I would. 1897 01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:04,040 Imagine. There you go already hard M 1898 01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:07,360 kudos is begging me. Jerome James. 1899 01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:11,000 That's that was a problem, yeah. He got paid off one game, one 1900 01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:15,200 series Jerome James I still he was an absolute I saw Jerome 1901 01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:16,240 James. This is a true story. 1902 01:32:16,440 --> 01:32:21,240 I saw Jerome James. So my old station 1050 was at 1903 01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:23,680 the Garden, right? Literally in Madison Square 1904 01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:27,720 Garden. And there was a Verizon around 1905 01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:33,640 the corner on 34th St. and I had to go something with my phone 1906 01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:36,160 and I'm in there. Jerome James gets out of a 1907 01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:38,800 limousine. It's the middle of the day and 1908 01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:42,920 he's wearing pink slippers like these big pink furry, stylish 1909 01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:47,360 pimp slippers and something else that was wacky. 1910 01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:49,280 And I'm like, what the fuck? Look at this. 1911 01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:52,320 No wonder why we suck. Look at this guy. 1912 01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:54,560 But nobody has mentioned the name. 1913 01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:58,120 Nobody's mentioned the name. To me, that is the perfect 1914 01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:02,680 encapsulation of everything that was wrong with the Knicks. 1915 01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:04,360 We've got a lot of good ones. Trust me. 1916 01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:07,600 There's a lot of people vying for that prize that now it also 1917 01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:10,880 comes with a personal story. So that's if I, if I hadn't 1918 01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:12,520 experienced this, I don't know that I would. 1919 01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:15,400 I would say this name, but I wouldn't say it #1 You ready for 1920 01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:17,640 the name? Yeah, Ronaldo, Bachmann. 1921 01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:21,480 Oh, I don't even know. I don't even come close. 1922 01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:24,600 And. It's a late first round pick who 1923 01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:27,040 actually showed a little bit of promise, could defend the great 1924 01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:30,240 athlete, right? But this was the height of the 1925 01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:34,520 Knicks dysfunction now, and this is all when I was doing the 1926 01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:37,120 stuff with the radio broadcast where he was. 1927 01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:40,040 What year was this? If I had to guess, Who the hell 1928 01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:44,120 knows, 2005, 6, something like that, right? 1929 01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:46,600 Possibly 7. I don't think it would have been 1930 01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:49,920 beyond that, but I might be off a year or two where, I mean, 1931 01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:51,560 they were just a disaster on the court. 1932 01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:53,640 They were a disaster off the court, right? 1933 01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:59,240 And I remember there was, now this is not like 2 1/2 hours 1934 01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:02,480 before the game. This is about like basically the 1935 01:34:02,480 --> 01:34:05,600 layup line had kind of started before the game. 1936 01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:09,280 And I'll never forget I saw Ronaldo Balkman. 1937 01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:11,560 Now I'm not mad at him. I mean, it's actually this 1938 01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:14,760 pretty. It's pretty bolder in hindsight, 1939 01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:16,600 but when you're trying to win, it's probably not a good look. 1940 01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:20,200 He's sitting courtside in his fucking uniform. 1941 01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:23,720 He's wearing his next uniform because he's getting ready to 1942 01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:28,520 play a game and he's there like basically where Spike would sit. 1943 01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:32,720 What? With a model on each side. 1944 01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:37,480 What the hell again? It's hard to get mad at them. 1945 01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:40,400 What bowler? You know, if you're playing at 1946 01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:42,280 Rucker Park, you're playing a little pick up, you have a 1947 01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:43,680 little fun little celebrity game. 1948 01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:45,840 It was a regular season Knick game. 1949 01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:52,720 Oh my God, bar mitzvah bro. Yo that is crazy. 1950 01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:54,880 And you would met Jay. Now, I wouldn't have done it 1951 01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:56,600 just based on my affiliation with the team. 1952 01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:59,880 But at that point, could you imagine if I would have taken a 1953 01:34:59,880 --> 01:35:02,640 picture of that and just put that on social media? 1954 01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:05,320 You know, him chilling. It is Nick's uniform with he's 1955 01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:07,480 still got his warmups. I like, I think it may have been 1956 01:35:07,480 --> 01:35:10,840 this one, I think it was Reebok back then or some version of it 1957 01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:13,360 just chilling with two, you know, 2 models, one on either 1958 01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:15,720 side. I mean look how far. 1959 01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:17,120 That's kind of baller it's. Kind of. 1960 01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:18,640 Now they just get the models after the game. 1961 01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:21,400 Come on man, scroll up. Oh, OK, somebody. 1962 01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:23,320 I didn't see it. I didn't see it, but I've been 1963 01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:24,080 hit. With a lot of. 1964 01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:26,960 Names here respect Alan Z Yeah. Anybody. 1965 01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:29,080 Are there any other good ones? Anybody. 1966 01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:31,280 Else dude, I think. We, I mean we ran through a. 1967 01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:33,920 Lot. Oh, Quintel. 1968 01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:36,560 I don't even you don't know the name Quintel, but here's a 1969 01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:37,920 little Side Story to Quintel Woods. 1970 01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:41,560 So did you see the Blazers documentary yet that I told you 1971 01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:42,520 to watch? You probably didn't. 1972 01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:46,440 See I need to I. Need to all right, I don't know 1973 01:35:46,440 --> 01:35:48,880 if it was Netflix or Amazon. I saw the day that it came out. 1974 01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:50,920 Awesome, right, absolutely awesome. 1975 01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:55,000 Stoudemire, she'd phenomenal and they Quintel Woods comes up 1976 01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:57,640 there. Quintel Woods was, I think he 1977 01:35:57,640 --> 01:36:01,320 was about 6-8, chiseled, good athlete, interesting, but he had 1978 01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:07,160 some multi chord issues and he was involved in some, I think it 1979 01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:09,960 was pitbulls some dog fighting scandal. 1980 01:36:10,440 --> 01:36:12,520 Man. Yeah, no, legit, legit. 1981 01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:15,840 I remember him very well. Isaiah brought him in, no doubt. 1982 01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:20,200 Quintel Woods or Kintel. I I I don't know how you, but 1983 01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:21,360 yeah, I remember him. I do. 1984 01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:23,320 I do. What is this? 1985 01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:27,560 BT's got a story for everybody. Not not everybody, but, you 1986 01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:30,520 know, when you have access, as I did for, you know, for a lot of 1987 01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:32,520 those years, you can you can see a lot of stuff there. 1988 01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:33,760 Impressive. Speaking of. 1989 01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:36,200 Yeah, we said, we said Freddie Vice, of course, that's one of 1990 01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:38,680 the first names that comes up. So Speaking of this here, Jay, 1991 01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:41,480 I've got a real dilemma. I think my wife thinks I have 1992 01:36:41,480 --> 01:36:44,680 powers that I just don't have. She's like, you've got to take 1993 01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:46,880 you got to take our son to to the NBA Finals. 1994 01:36:47,480 --> 01:36:49,240 And I'm like, you know, of course you don't think I've 1995 01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:50,800 thought about it. I mean, first of all, how much 1996 01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:52,480 is it going to just to get get in right? 1997 01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:57,000 I mean, do you have, do you have that kind of or like do you have 1998 01:36:57,000 --> 01:37:00,600 that kind of power, bro? I mean, not really, to be fully 1999 01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:03,440 honest, I'd like to say yeah. I mean, I mean, what can I, can 2000 01:37:03,440 --> 01:37:05,560 I, what am I going to do? I mean, I did text Spike. 2001 01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:07,960 I want to get Spike on the show. Haven't heard back yet. 2002 01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:10,760 I'm not going to go and ask Spike, yo, you got extra tickets 2003 01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:12,960 or what are you going to do? Because I listen, I'm not 2004 01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:14,800 paying. I cannot. 2005 01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:18,480 I'll be totally honest with you. It's irresponsible for me to 2006 01:37:18,480 --> 01:37:23,280 justify paying a couple of $1000 for a couple of hours. 2007 01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:25,560 I mean. I don't blame you for that. 2008 01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:29,120 You know, and this is coming from the guy who, you know, 2009 01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:32,720 always looks into this camera or a microphone and says, hey, if 2010 01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:34,880 Yanks are in the World Series and it's a late game where 2011 01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:37,560 Knicks my son's staying up, he's watching, he's going to school 2012 01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:39,360 tired. Like I create those. 2013 01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:42,520 I am all about that stuff. But it's got to be financially 2014 01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:44,680 prudent. I mean, you know, I've, I've, 2015 01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:48,280 I've done pretty well for a long time and there were many times I 2016 01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:50,800 wouldn't even flinch said sure, how much couple thousand, let's 2017 01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:53,480 go, you know, but you know, I've, I've got to consider that 2018 01:37:53,480 --> 01:37:55,280 a little bit now as, as we build this thing out. 2019 01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:56,960 And then this is where she has no idea. 2020 01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:58,600 She's like, oh, just get credentials. 2021 01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:01,400 I'm going to get credential BT unleash credential. 2022 01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:05,440 I mean, my gosh, I appreciate, by the way, that's not a knock 2023 01:38:05,440 --> 01:38:07,480 at her at all. I appreciate her. 2024 01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:09,280 I it is. I appreciate her. 2025 01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:11,640 She even, you know, because she texted me that last night. 2026 01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:14,480 She didn't want to forget. We were down here watching the 2027 01:38:14,480 --> 01:38:15,360 game. She was upstairs with my 2028 01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:17,480 daughter and she's like, you got it, you got it. 2029 01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:18,680 You got to get there. You got to take them. 2030 01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:22,120 So what I'm thinking is maybe the happy sweet spot, but I 2031 01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:25,760 don't even know how to do this would be to to go go watch party 2032 01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:28,320 at Radio City for for for an awake. 2033 01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:30,240 Game if yo, if you're going, let me know. 2034 01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:32,960 Like dude, that would be awesome, right? 2035 01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:34,720 The tickets for that are only $10. 2036 01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:37,160 Yeah, I don't know. Yo, that's not a price thing. 2037 01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:39,600 That's just an access thing. There's only, I think there was. 2038 01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:41,760 Well, how many 600? What did they get out? 2039 01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:45,120 I'll make it. That looks so much fun though. 2040 01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:47,440 It does. That looks so much fun. 2041 01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:50,880 Yeah, when I saw the get in price, I mean, I had to film a 2042 01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:52,920 show, but I was like, dude, I wish I went to that. 2043 01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:56,720 Like that would have been great. Yeah, I mean, I mean, listen, 2044 01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:59,040 there's a lot of things that I could do, you know, like when I 2045 01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:01,200 was in the fan, I I took him to the World Series game. 2046 01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:03,040 He'll be a fan home for the Yankees. 2047 01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:05,400 Yeah, God's got the oh. The game Wait, that was the game 2048 01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:07,560 when Volpe hit the. Granite, Yeah, Volpe hit. 2049 01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:10,040 The Grand Speaking of decent weekend for the Bullet. 2050 01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:11,840 Decent. Weekend for the bullet to run. 2051 01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:13,280 Knock left field. Let's go. 2052 01:39:13,440 --> 01:39:15,520 There we go, I. Love it, I love it. 2053 01:39:15,560 --> 01:39:16,960 You know what? Let me give you 1 stat on the 2054 01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:18,560 Yankees. Obviously Knicks, I do have to 2055 01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:20,160 get 2 little baseball things over here. 2056 01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:24,400 All right, So I don't know if you guys saw it's not just about 2057 01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:26,120 the Yankees, but couple of days ago. 2058 01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:27,920 Obviously Tigers need to get their act together. 2059 01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:29,240 Tigers are a complete mess right now. 2060 01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:31,200 School Bulls still out. It was not a very invasive 2061 01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:35,200 procedure, just some, you know, loose bodies floating around the 2062 01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:36,560 elbow. You suck them out, you come 2063 01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:39,360 back, it's fine. It's actually a a process that 2064 01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:42,320 they've really or surgery that they've really perfected the 2065 01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:43,680 last couple of years. It's basic. 2066 01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:46,400 It's basic like arthroscopic. I mean, it's basic stuff, right, 2067 01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:48,800 compared to shoulder and ligament transplant. 2068 01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:52,200 So he's coming back, obviously now, you know, because his 2069 01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:55,000 contract is up after this year. And you know, he's going to 2070 01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:56,800 enter with Boris. He's going to enter the free 2071 01:39:56,800 --> 01:39:58,960 agent pool as he should to maximize his value. 2072 01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:01,160 Like, what are you really willing to give up? 2073 01:40:01,160 --> 01:40:03,960 And basically, the teams I know, the Dodgers were stunning. 2074 01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:06,960 The Dodgers would be won. The Yankees were listed. 2075 01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:09,520 I didn't even know if the Mets were listed, but I, I think 2076 01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:11,880 Toronto, there was like 4 or five teams that were listed as 2077 01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:13,880 the the prime players for school. 2078 01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:16,440 You don't need school if you're the Yankees. 2079 01:40:16,440 --> 01:40:18,760 You need a bat. You need somebody who can hit. 2080 01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:22,000 All right, great with the walk off by Judge over the weekend. 2081 01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:23,560 Great. The two run knocked by Volpe, 2082 01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:27,200 but Yankees just can't hit a lick. 2083 01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:29,920 You just can't. And I'm look look at this the 2084 01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:33,760 last time, one time through the rotation, all right, Schlittler 2085 01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:36,760 gave up two earned runs. Rodan gave up one, Cole gave up 2086 01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:39,840 none. Weathers gave up none and and 2087 01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:41,480 obviously Warren gave up two yesterday. 2088 01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:45,680 Think about that. You have two, three in in in 5 2089 01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:50,320 starts, the Yankees gave up five earned runs and they're two and 2090 01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:53,760 three in those five games and both wins they had to come back 2091 01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:57,240 and win it in the 9th inning. I mean, it's don't tell me about 2092 01:40:57,240 --> 01:40:59,200 Tarek school. Tell me about where's the 2093 01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:02,920 offense we going to import? Like who's going to hit for this 2094 01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:05,040 team? You know, that's what they got 2095 01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:06,200 to focus on. Now. 2096 01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:10,440 You want to be really greedy. You want to get schoolable and a 2097 01:41:10,440 --> 01:41:14,200 prime time stick, go for it. But this thought that the 2098 01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:15,920 Yankees and I don't know, they're going to have 2099 01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:19,320 conversations and Yankees farm systems become and some of the 2100 01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:22,200 pitchers who are in the majors now, not Schlittler, maybe 2101 01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:26,560 Warren, whatever they they'll command some interest now with 2102 01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:27,720 schoolable. So you're going to have to give 2103 01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:31,360 up a lot and but but if it if that's the case, that's fine, 2104 01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:34,320 But it can't like you got school. 2105 01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:36,560 Can he hit? Can he bat lead off? 2106 01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:39,360 Can you bat 6th or 7th or 8th or 9th? 2107 01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:44,240 You got to get another stick to win every single time, which is 2108 01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:47,000 every night you watch the Yankees, their starters do the 2109 01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:49,200 job. They either hit like shit or the 2110 01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:54,000 bullpen takes a gas can to the game and they lose offense. 2111 01:41:54,320 --> 01:41:57,520 That's it. You don't need school bull. 2112 01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:01,840 All right, And then listen, I just I can't waste a lot of time 2113 01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:05,200 on the Mets here. But he just the Mets are 2114 01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:09,320 unwatchable, you know, and we just ran through all those Knick 2115 01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:11,160 teams, right? Think about that. 2116 01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:14,960 All those Knick players out of we rifle those 20 or 30 names 2117 01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:19,480 that are synonymous with lost, empty, hopeless, pathetic 2118 01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:22,600 seasons. The difference in the NBA, not 2119 01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:26,840 that it's fun, but like, you can still watch any one of those 2120 01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:29,600 names. And most nights there's a guy on 2121 01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:32,240 the other team that is at least fun to watch. 2122 01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:36,200 You know, whether it was a Penny or whether it was, you know, a 2123 01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:38,720 young Stevie Francis or Yao Ming or whatever. 2124 01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:41,400 It may have been young Jack Colby, somebody rolling in for 2125 01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:43,440 the Western Conference. You'll Dirk for the one time at 2126 01:42:43,440 --> 01:42:46,000 the Garden. So you sit through two hours of 2127 01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:49,880 horrendous basketball, but at least you get to watch a star do 2128 01:42:49,880 --> 01:42:51,520 his thing. Oh, that's what it's like to be 2129 01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:53,240 good. Well, that's what it's like to 2130 01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:57,120 have those kind of players, right, Gasol, whatever it might 2131 01:42:57,120 --> 01:42:58,720 be, you know, the names from back in the day. 2132 01:42:59,440 --> 01:43:02,440 Baseball's different. I mean, unless you're watching 2133 01:43:02,440 --> 01:43:05,560 like a school ball or one of the best pitchers in baseball deal. 2134 01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:08,320 And it's just amazing to watch. And you and you like that kind 2135 01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:10,320 of stuff. When you don't hit, I don't give 2136 01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:12,600 a shit who you're playing. It's it's just no fun. 2137 01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:17,240 I mean, the Mets can't hit. Talk about the Yankees not 2138 01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:19,200 hitting. I mean, when I know Soto's going 2139 01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:22,440 to be back, he's sick. But whoa, my God, I don't know 2140 01:43:22,440 --> 01:43:23,920 how you sit through this nonsense, man. 2141 01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:28,800 The Mets have scored four runs in their last four games. 4 2142 01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:33,720 They're utterly unwatchable. And you know the thing about the 2143 01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:37,080 Mets, we are very quickly at this point, unfortunately, 2144 01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:39,880 there's nothing even to yell about at this point. 2145 01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:45,000 Like, to me, when you scream and you yell, at least I know when I 2146 01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:46,200 scream. And yeah, sometimes it's 2147 01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:48,200 cathartic. So even if it's not going to 2148 01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:49,880 change anything, it does make me feel a little bit better. 2149 01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:52,920 Like when I'm yelling about The Jets, I will admit it sometimes 2150 01:43:52,920 --> 01:43:55,320 makes me feel a little bit better temporarily that it's 2151 01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:56,000 gone. Whatever. 2152 01:43:56,240 --> 01:44:01,040 Even if even if it provides no solution, but to yell about the 2153 01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:03,840 Mets now is the height of stupidity. 2154 01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:05,960 Look at the light up that they're rolling out. 2155 01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:09,000 What do you expect? I mean, if you rolled out this 2156 01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:11,520 line up and you put them in it in whatever. 2157 01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:13,120 I don't know the AAA Easter, what? 2158 01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:14,240 I don't know. I can't even think right now. 2159 01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:17,320 I don't know whatever AAA wherever the Yankees and the 2160 01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:19,440 Mets place here. I know what towns, but the name 2161 01:44:19,440 --> 01:44:23,120 of the league dude, I'm not even going to win the division with 2162 01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:28,320 this offense. They are just a rag Ted group of 2163 01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:33,280 guys who were just never be never going to be nearly as good 2164 01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:38,440 as you wanted them to be like Vientos, like Beatty. 2165 01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:41,040 Really. We are another week or two away 2166 01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:44,360 and even if we don't get there in the next week or two, I still 2167 01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:46,960 think unfortunately we're going to get there eventually. 2168 01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:50,680 But like it's, it's more and more pressing based on winning 2169 01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:52,000 two out of three against the Yankees. 2170 01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:54,560 And then what they did after that, any little flicker of hope 2171 01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:57,480 that they were generating after playing pretty well against the 2172 01:44:57,480 --> 01:44:59,720 Yankees. It's it's, it's it's gone, it's 2173 01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:03,520 gone again, right. What are they 1415 out of the 2174 01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:05,320 division? Like it's hopeless, dude. 2175 01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:09,440 So I I guess we're another bad week, another, you know, two and 2176 01:45:09,440 --> 01:45:12,640 five or three and six over their next 9. 2177 01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:15,960 The only thing that you watch for and the only thing that you 2178 01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:20,760 hope for is to feel instead of feeling good, you feel really 2179 01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:24,560 good about going into next season with Benj and Ewing. 2180 01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:28,520 OK, that's where we're at. And the other place that we're 2181 01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:31,120 at, and nobody's done this for a while, but people were doing it 2182 01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:33,360 for a minute. Tap the brakes on McClain. 2183 01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:36,280 Tap the brakes, man. I've heard conversations. 2184 01:45:36,280 --> 01:45:38,360 Who's better, Camp Schlitter or McClain? 2185 01:45:38,480 --> 01:45:45,600 And I like the kid, I really do. Cam Schlittler is one of the 2186 01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:47,800 three or four best pitchers in baseball right now. 2187 01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:51,320 Mcclain's ERA is basically what 5I mean. 2188 01:45:51,320 --> 01:45:53,160 He's been you've been getting tattooed, you've been getting 2189 01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:58,320 hit and giving up home runs. So Mets or This Is Not Me, just 2190 01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:00,560 deliver the punch line and taking the easy shot. 2191 01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:03,920 Didn't do the show yesterday. Lot of baseball's been played 2192 01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:05,840 for both of these teams. Even though it's a next day. 2193 01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:08,800 I got to give you some thoughts. Yes, Google sounds great. 2194 01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:13,600 Yanks need more offense, OK. And the Mets are just they're 2195 01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:15,880 just it's disgusting to watch. It really is. 2196 01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:17,600 All right, who's up next there on the phones? 2197 01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:18,920 What do we got, Jay? What do we have? 2198 01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:22,400 We've got our buddy. Seth. 2199 01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:26,880 Seth, can you hear us? Loud and clear. 2200 01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:31,960 Seth. Seth Yep, go ahead, buddy. 2201 01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:38,280 That thing I'm starting to green Barrett with how shit they are, 2202 01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:41,600 because at this point I just want a damn regime change and 2203 01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:44,240 then maybe I'll be happy. You'll probably get it after 2204 01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:46,640 this, after the season. If this keeps up, Stern's 2205 01:46:46,640 --> 01:46:48,720 probably gone, so you you might get your wish. 2206 01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:51,960 I want Mendoza gone too. Well, that's easy. 2207 01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:54,400 I mean, and I, I don't know what we really expect. 2208 01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:56,480 I don't think Mendoza's as good as some people do. 2209 01:46:56,480 --> 01:46:58,440 And hell, I even want. Lynn, but he's not this bad. 2210 01:46:58,440 --> 01:47:01,320 I even want Lynn Dorgon. Yeah, I mean we're you can. 2211 01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:02,640 Win the cause of. All that. 2212 01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:05,360 Since he's the cause of all this. 2213 01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:10,520 Why is he the cause? His wife is on Mendani's 2214 01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:11,960 cabinet. No, I don't bring. 2215 01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:13,640 Come on. Don't bring the politics into 2216 01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:15,760 it. Come on, come on, It's true. 2217 01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:18,640 Well, I mean, it's true for you, but it's not true for my entire 2218 01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:20,080 audience. So, you know, come on. 2219 01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:24,400 You know what I'm saying? And As for the Knicks, I'm happy 2220 01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:25,920 that we're back in the Finals after. 2221 01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:27,080 Overtime. Yeah, you sound. 2222 01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:32,560 Yeah, you sound thrilled. Now we wait. 2223 01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:36,480 The big question is who wins the chess match in the West? 2224 01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:40,440 Who do you want to play? Who would you rather play? 2225 01:47:41,160 --> 01:47:43,720 I'd rather get San Antonio. Me too. 2226 01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:47,560 Cuz at the very least we're capable of beating them. 2227 01:47:48,320 --> 01:47:50,920 Well, yeah, that's the goal. I mean, so you don't think they 2228 01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:52,240 have any chance to beat the Thunder? 2229 01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:55,760 If the reps are as deep in the pocket as people perceive them 2230 01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:59,160 to be because of how much of STHS flock fest they put up 2231 01:47:59,160 --> 01:48:03,400 with, no. I got you. 2232 01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:04,520 I got you. Seth. 2233 01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:06,480 Where do you watch these games? How do you watch the Nick 2234 01:48:06,480 --> 01:48:11,040 playoff games with anybody? On a Discord server that belongs 2235 01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:13,920 to a guy that goes by the pet name of Uncle Freezy, the 2236 01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:17,840 Blanched Tears channel. I'm not sure what that is, but 2237 01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:18,960 OK, it's a. Nickname channel. 2238 01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:21,000 Oh, OK, I got you. Good. 2239 01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:23,720 I got you. OK, All right. 2240 01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:26,840 That's just you 2 that you just you watch it like the whole 2241 01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:28,280 group. Oh, I got you. 2242 01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:29,400 All right. Who is it? 2243 01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:33,880 Blanched tears. That's not CP the franchise, is 2244 01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:35,440 it? No, it's not. 2245 01:48:35,720 --> 01:48:39,320 OK, he does a good job, but and I'm sure the the people that you 2246 01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:42,400 hang with too do a good job, but I I don't know them as much. 2247 01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:44,600 All right, so you guys get after a little watch party. 2248 01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:48,200 All right there, Seth. I mean, it's just going to be, I 2249 01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:50,920 don't care who wins. I just want to see that check. 2250 01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:54,360 I've never seen the Knicks win the Kings. 2251 01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:57,520 I've seen win the title from New York for the New York New Jersey 2252 01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:06,000 area in my lifetime. 94 Rangers. 95 Devils 9698992000 Yankees 2253 01:49:06,720 --> 01:49:11,360 2007 Giants. Look at you 2. 1008 Same thing 2254 01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:12,240 in 11. I know. 2255 01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:16,440 Yankees in O 9 actually forgot. About that, I know I was waiting 2256 01:49:16,440 --> 01:49:20,960 for that. 24 I guess you could say Liberty, but who gives a 2257 01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:23,160 crap about the WN? BAI mean, come on. 2258 01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:25,080 I mean, Seth, why are you trying to make enemies here, buddy? 2259 01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:27,520 I mean I I'm not a huge WNBA. Come on. 2260 01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:28,720 I was. I was pretty deep in the 2261 01:49:28,720 --> 01:49:30,760 highlights yesterday. Seth, come on now. 2262 01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:32,120 They're looking for Sophie Cunningham. 2263 01:49:32,120 --> 01:49:34,360 That's what he's looking for. Skyler Diggins. 2264 01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:39,960 I mean, I have yet to see an Islander Cup, a Met World Series 2265 01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:44,160 or a Jack Lombardi or a Nick O'Brien Nick or Nick O'Brien. 2266 01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:47,200 Mary O'Brien Yep, I got you. Understood me too. 2267 01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:52,240 So yeah, I'm older than you, but I did not see that 73 Knicks 2268 01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:54,120 championship. And the only other team I do 2269 01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:57,600 like that has one entire like witness Carolina, you know, six 2270 01:49:57,600 --> 01:49:59,600 with the cop. Oh, the. 2271 01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:02,760 Hurricanes, OK, that does nothing for me. 2272 01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:06,720 But no, it was a good team fun. All right, Seth, let's let's 2273 01:50:06,720 --> 01:50:08,120 talk again soon. OK, buddy? 2274 01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:09,800 Late. Thanks, man. 2275 01:50:10,440 --> 01:50:14,480 Seth, He's he's an interesting bird, isn't he? 2276 01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:16,680 He's a legend. Dude, I, I fucking love this 2277 01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:18,240 dude. Listen this comment, this 2278 01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:20,560 comment's a little mean, but I, I think it's a self. 2279 01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:22,480 I think it's so funny. It's not being mean here. 2280 01:50:22,480 --> 01:50:23,160 Why it's? Not mean. 2281 01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:24,280 It's not mean. It's nice. 2282 01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:26,200 It's it's funny. It's more funny. 2283 01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:27,520 I just think of the character dude. 2284 01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:31,040 That is funny. Yes, that's set this for the pad 2285 01:50:31,040 --> 01:50:32,080 itself. He gets one call. 2286 01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:35,680 It's the BT everyone dude. Seth, like, let me just tell 2287 01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:40,400 you, bro, dude, if you hit the social media, bro, you would be 2288 01:50:40,520 --> 01:50:42,720 you would be, I mean, and you already do. 2289 01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:44,600 So I'm not listen, I'm not pressing you there. 2290 01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:47,000 You do your thing and you're having a good time and you're 2291 01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:49,640 having fun and I fucking love you and thank you for calling 2292 01:50:49,640 --> 01:50:50,560 bro. Absolutely. 2293 01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:55,360 If you, if you went after this dude, you would be a star, don't 2294 01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:56,960 you? You would be a star. 2295 01:50:57,120 --> 01:51:00,200 So go for it man. I I just love you, Seth. 2296 01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:02,480 Thank you so much there. You go, yeah, you do get extra 2297 01:51:02,480 --> 01:51:05,280 happy when Seth checks. It's just dude, he, he brings 2298 01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:07,800 such a great, you know, funny energy. 2299 01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:09,560 The chat loves him. Yep. 2300 01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:13,160 Like, I just think, I think that kid is special. 2301 01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:15,680 I saw now there's yeah, no, he he he's good. 2302 01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:17,880 He's he's a very different presentation and that's good. 2303 01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:21,320 The I we, we don't have, we don't have to dump on the WNBAI 2304 01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:23,840 mean again, I don't watch it, but it's incredibly high level 2305 01:51:25,040 --> 01:51:27,600 and I have to take a shot at the WNBA, try to keep politics out 2306 01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:28,760 of it. Outside of that, Seth doing a 2307 01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:32,240 pretty good job. So there was a guy and I saw his 2308 01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:34,880 name in the chat a few times, like much earlier in the show, 2309 01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:37,800 Omar, that would call me and Sal. 2310 01:51:38,440 --> 01:51:41,640 I think we call Sal overnight. Omar Youssef or a different 2311 01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:43,680 Omar? I think Omar Youssef's a 2312 01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:46,640 different Omar than the one who used to call you inside. 2313 01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:49,400 I think it is too. I think he is too, dude. 2314 01:51:49,480 --> 01:51:52,720 He was bananas, man. We got to get this guy in here. 2315 01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:57,080 Got to get him in at some point. Omar, drop a call if you're if 2316 01:51:57,080 --> 01:51:59,760 you're the right Omar. Speaking of Omar Youssef, 2317 01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:01,760 though, man, I mean, I don't know. 2318 01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:03,480 We don't have to go back to this. 2319 01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:06,360 He is throwing out some names that are just. 2320 01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:10,640 You got some more He's throwing. I've I've yet to be stumped 2321 01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:12,680 here. Damien Dotson. 2322 01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:14,480 Yep, shooter. He was a guard. 2323 01:52:14,480 --> 01:52:15,800 He was two guard I. Remember him? 2324 01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:18,320 He's a dude who was in two. K he may have been from Texas 2325 01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:20,320 Tech if I'm not mistaken. I thought Datsun was going to 2326 01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:23,480 actually be pretty good. He could shoot good body. 2327 01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:25,040 There's gonna be like a three and D guy. 2328 01:52:25,040 --> 01:52:27,360 Datsun I remember very well. Who else keep it going? 2329 01:52:27,440 --> 01:52:31,280 Player Maurice. Indoor, if I'm not mistaken. 2330 01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:34,600 Like a biggish forward, but he's a little more obscure to me. 2331 01:52:34,720 --> 01:52:37,960 I can't lie on that one. Oh my gosh, just when DeAndre 2332 01:52:37,960 --> 01:52:39,800 Jordan played for the Knicks. Yeah. 2333 01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:42,160 I mean, yeah, Wesley Matthews for five. 2334 01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:45,000 Wes Matthews. From Marquette. 2335 01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:52,240 O Aldridge. Oh Jesus, ridiculous God. 2336 01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:55,360 He was, oh, but you know, here's a good one. 2337 01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:58,240 This is a very notable guy because he he's one of those 2338 01:52:58,240 --> 01:53:03,080 guys who you'll always remember alongside Ron Baker cause 2339 01:53:03,080 --> 01:53:06,360 Minskis. Here's another one, Jared Jack 2340 01:53:06,440 --> 01:53:08,480 from Georgia Tech. Jared Jack, a little point 2341 01:53:08,480 --> 01:53:09,560 guard. His motable. 2342 01:53:09,560 --> 01:53:14,560 His most notable play as a Nick was that bomb full court shot 2343 01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:17,120 like that. Just completely missed the 2344 01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:20,320 backboard like it it was a bug hazard beater and he went for 2345 01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:24,480 the full court shot and even for a full court shot it's a bad 2346 01:53:24,480 --> 01:53:26,480 miss. Jarrett Jack played a long time. 2347 01:53:26,480 --> 01:53:28,320 He was at Georgia Tech. They had a good team. 2348 01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:30,120 I like Jarrett Jack not with the Knicks of the. 2349 01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:33,760 Ramon Sessions. Oh yeah, Ramon Sessions, 2350 01:53:34,280 --> 01:53:37,480 Milwaukee Bucks guard. I think he tore his Achilles 2351 01:53:37,480 --> 01:53:40,880 too. Jared Jeffrey's from Indiana. 2352 01:53:41,120 --> 01:53:42,800 Hey Jared. Honestly, this is going to sound 2353 01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:45,000 crazy. Of all the names that we've 2354 01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:48,360 thrown out there, Jared Jeffrey's like this is going to 2355 01:53:48,360 --> 01:53:50,880 sound crazy. Could have actually fit on this 2356 01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:53,360 team. Yeah, I thought he was a decent 2357 01:53:53,360 --> 01:53:55,160 center. I thought he kind of had a some 2358 01:53:55,160 --> 01:53:58,160 good like body to him, like some decent toughness. 2359 01:53:58,280 --> 01:54:01,760 Like he wasn't a great bucket getter, but a lot of the centers 2360 01:54:01,760 --> 01:54:03,000 from that time weren't. Really. 2361 01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:05,400 I think. But I've looked at Jared Moore's 2362 01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:08,800 as a, as a versatile front. I don't look at him as a center. 2363 01:54:09,080 --> 01:54:10,840 I look at him because Eddie Curry's playing a lot. 2364 01:54:10,840 --> 01:54:13,600 I look at him more as like a versatile. 2365 01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:14,680 You know, he could, he could step out. 2366 01:54:14,680 --> 01:54:18,280 He was quick enough to guard A3. Certainly if I look at him more 2367 01:54:18,280 --> 01:54:21,000 as a four, no, but he was a great college player. 2368 01:54:21,240 --> 01:54:22,520 But yeah. Jared Jeffries. 2369 01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:26,080 Who else? Mumpe, yes. 2370 01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:28,360 Mumpe no. Clue let. 2371 01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:33,200 Me, see if I can nail the year. Look him up. 2372 01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:37,960 They had that's when they had I think they took 3 picks that 2373 01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:40,800 year. This was early 2000, like mid 2374 01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:46,200 2000s. Hold on, don't tell me Lompe, I 2375 01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:52,520 want to say was like O3O4. Yo-yo, I mean, I First off, I am 2376 01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:55,880 just like a jar. It's O3. 2377 01:54:55,880 --> 01:54:59,440 You're right on O3 bro. What? 2378 01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:00,880 What do you show me the way he looks? 2379 01:55:00,880 --> 01:55:04,760 Just bro what's? Why are you making fun of the 2380 01:55:04,760 --> 01:55:08,520 way he looks dude? This dude just looks like like 2381 01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:12,880 he look he like just the look in his eyes is like reminds me of 2382 01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:15,240 like that of like Jokic's brothers. 2383 01:55:15,240 --> 01:55:17,440 Like he's overwhelmed or he's ready to kill somebody. 2384 01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:22,280 Or like that 1000 yard stare, like you're just like, like 2385 01:55:22,280 --> 01:55:25,560 there's nothing going on up there other than just like. 2386 01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:28,760 Well, don't. Mammalian Instinct. 2387 01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:32,240 I mean, come on already. I mean, I mean. 2388 01:55:32,320 --> 01:55:36,400 I remember and there. Was another guy go sluris 2389 01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:41,200 bronchus or something like that? See the the Knicks for Ronnie 2390 01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:42,120 Turioff. He's the. 2391 01:55:42,160 --> 01:55:44,880 Guy that gets ripped. But now, like people on 2392 01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:48,840 Instagram will be like, yo, Ronnie Turioff's like great ball 2393 01:55:48,840 --> 01:55:50,760 knowledge. Like if you know Ronnie Turioff, 2394 01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:53,400 you know ball. And he'll actually respond in 2395 01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:56,640 the comments of the videos. No, I think he was a Gonzaga. 2396 01:55:56,640 --> 01:55:58,320 He was a good pro. Like he he played for like, 2397 01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:01,200 let's not bro Ronnie Curry app and some of these other names 2398 01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:02,680 here. The the Knicks. 2399 01:56:02,680 --> 01:56:04,560 I remember my biggest gripe with the Knicks. 2400 01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:07,360 It was right when the European wave was really starting to hit 2401 01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:09,640 the NBA. And I'm like, why can't they 2402 01:56:09,640 --> 01:56:12,040 just find the European? And then they finally got the 2403 01:56:12,160 --> 01:56:14,520 Danilo Gallinari, and I was pumped. 2404 01:56:15,160 --> 01:56:18,280 Right. And, you know, I mean, I I 2405 01:56:18,280 --> 01:56:20,400 actually thought Danilo was going to be outstanding. 2406 01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:22,280 Yeah, I did. I liked him. 2407 01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:25,480 He he's on a whole other tier than the other guy they're 2408 01:56:25,480 --> 01:56:28,040 talking about. No, if you look at if you look 2409 01:56:28,040 --> 01:56:30,040 at Gallo's numbers with the Denver Nuggets, he put up. 2410 01:56:30,040 --> 01:56:32,400 Oh, my gosh, yeah. He, he he got to the free throw 2411 01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:36,640 line a lot. The thing that surprised me with 2412 01:56:36,640 --> 01:56:39,400 Gallo, I'll tell you, I got a quick Gallo story for you, too. 2413 01:56:39,400 --> 01:56:44,280 Where I was like, OK, I'm like this guy, this guy's got some 2414 01:56:44,280 --> 01:56:47,920 balls here, but I thought he was going to be a drop dead like 2415 01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:52,480 from downtown. It was more like get to the 2416 01:56:52,480 --> 01:56:55,160 line. Now he became a little bit 2417 01:56:55,160 --> 01:56:57,000 better shooter with Denver, but I thought he was going to be a 2418 01:56:57,000 --> 01:56:58,560 shooter. He was actually more of a a 2419 01:56:58,920 --> 01:57:02,160 little bit of a a penetrator and and then he had a bad back. 2420 01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:03,560 Yeah, I think he had back surgery. 2421 01:57:04,320 --> 01:57:05,760 Gala was good. But this where I'm like, all 2422 01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:07,360 right, this guy's this guy's got hope. 2423 01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:10,560 They're playing now. I don't I don't mean this any 2424 01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:12,400 other way than just telling you what I heard. 2425 01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:15,240 And this happens. I'm sure probably less now, but 2426 01:57:15,240 --> 01:57:17,440 back in the day you could imagine they're playing the 2427 01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:19,520 Celtics and they're playing Garnett. 2428 01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:23,560 You're playing your boys right. And I just now where I used to 2429 01:57:23,560 --> 01:57:26,480 sit when I was doing the next pre post in half was right 2430 01:57:26,480 --> 01:57:32,640 underneath the basket and I would sit next to Alan Han, 2431 01:57:33,320 --> 01:57:37,440 Frank Isola, Al Troutwick. I always sat literally right 2432 01:57:37,440 --> 01:57:40,240 next to Al, who was the best. Rest in peace, Al. 2433 01:57:40,240 --> 01:57:43,640 And I wish Al was still around for this great, great man, 2434 01:57:44,360 --> 01:57:47,160 awesome dude. And you can hear everything. 2435 01:57:47,160 --> 01:57:51,440 You can hear all all the smack talk and I hear Garnett yell and 2436 01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:53,560 yo, give me the rock. I got white boy on me. 2437 01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:55,520 That's how that's how little he respects Gallo. 2438 01:57:55,880 --> 01:57:57,880 I don't blame him. I mean, Gallo's like pencil fan. 2439 01:57:57,880 --> 01:58:00,520 He's got this floppy. You're like you just floppy 2440 01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:01,600 hair. Looks like he's 12. 2441 01:58:02,360 --> 01:58:05,600 But where I knew that Gallo had some balls and wasn't going to 2442 01:58:05,600 --> 01:58:08,440 be abused if like if he could stay healthy and he eventually 2443 01:58:08,440 --> 01:58:10,640 got there in Denver and even with the Knicks, he played hard. 2444 01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:13,360 He went back at him the next trip down the board. 2445 01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:17,120 He was demanding the ball and he actually got a couple of buckets 2446 01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:19,360 and not wide open. I mean, where he like caught it 2447 01:58:19,360 --> 01:58:23,320 in the mid post and like turn Gallo 611 turned like used his 2448 01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:26,840 footwork like a fall away. I'm like, OK, all right. 2449 01:58:26,920 --> 01:58:29,720 I mean, and they used to say the same thing to David Lee. 2450 01:58:30,800 --> 01:58:33,560 Oh whoa, we got this white boy. Yeah, they, you know they. 2451 01:58:34,080 --> 01:58:38,080 David Lee was so solid. He's such a solid NBA player. 2452 01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:42,240 I saw someone, I mean MK Doza, David Lee, he could play on this 2453 01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:44,200 team. Oh, God, yeah, yeah. 2454 01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:46,080 I still remember doing the other stuff. 2455 01:58:46,080 --> 01:58:48,640 David Lee's tipping at the buzzer against the Bobcats. 2456 01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:51,160 Oh, that's at the Garden. Literally tipped in it at the 2457 01:58:51,160 --> 01:58:54,240 buzzer was like 2 seconds left. Whatever it was that was a, that 2458 01:58:54,240 --> 01:58:57,240 was a rough OK. Wait, OK, Avery Summit has this 2459 01:58:57,240 --> 01:59:02,280 and let me just disregard this chats from from earlier. 2460 01:59:02,640 --> 01:59:05,040 Oh, wait, no, I found it. Here's one of my thoughts. 2461 01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:07,400 So the other day, I was saying this and this like a little 2462 01:59:07,400 --> 01:59:08,320 side. Whatever. 2463 01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:09,360 Quick side. Yeah. 2464 01:59:09,360 --> 01:59:14,200 So Linsanity was the biggest Knicks moment since this team. 2465 01:59:14,520 --> 01:59:18,960 And the other day I was debating whether Linsanity was still 2466 01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:21,560 bigger than this team's final run. 2467 01:59:21,960 --> 01:59:23,800 Last night ended that completely. 2468 01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:26,280 I mean, last night completely ended that. 2469 01:59:26,320 --> 01:59:27,600 Say that again. Say that again. 2470 01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:30,640 I want to. Make sure I understand and you 2471 01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:32,800 and you might completely disagree. 2472 01:59:33,160 --> 01:59:38,480 Do you think Linsanity, like the idea of Linsanity, is still a 2473 01:59:38,480 --> 01:59:42,240 more popular singular event than this Knicks Finals? 2474 01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:45,680 Rock, are you fucking crazy? Yes or no? 2475 01:59:46,240 --> 01:59:48,720 No. OK, that Agreed. 2476 01:59:48,720 --> 01:59:50,560 Agreed. Agreed. 2477 01:59:50,840 --> 01:59:53,040 Agreed. I mean, I hope so. 2478 01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:59,760 But, but let me let me say, listen, a lot of people's moms 2479 01:59:59,760 --> 02:00:05,000 my age are a lot of, you know, knew Jeremy Lin's names, name. 2480 02:00:05,120 --> 02:00:08,720 I don't know if all of them would know a single player on 2481 02:00:08,720 --> 02:00:11,360 this Knicks team's name. OK, I mean. 2482 02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:14,680 Like the the Linsanity story I got. 2483 02:00:15,040 --> 02:00:16,800 You. Nationwide. 2484 02:00:17,560 --> 02:00:18,960 Well, no worldwide. Really. 2485 02:00:19,600 --> 02:00:22,840 More so than you're right. Listen, you know, you saw my 2486 02:00:22,840 --> 02:00:24,560 reaction. I'm obviously messing with you 2487 02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:27,040 here. But I mean, it's I think you get 2488 02:00:27,040 --> 02:00:32,320 that anytime you have a moribund team and there's like a flicker 2489 02:00:32,320 --> 02:00:35,480 of hope, doesn't that little flicker of hope always get 2490 02:00:35,480 --> 02:00:37,560 elevated? And I'll just because you're so 2491 02:00:37,560 --> 02:00:40,240 desperate for something to gravitate to and to latch on to. 2492 02:00:40,560 --> 02:00:43,000 Like we almost view so and so as the savior. 2493 02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:44,280 It happens with like quarterbacks. 2494 02:00:44,520 --> 02:00:47,800 I mean, it happened with DeVito and you know, love Tommy DeVito, 2495 02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:49,600 but it happened with Tommy DeVito for a second. 2496 02:00:50,080 --> 02:00:51,640 Syracuse legend. Yep, Yep. 2497 02:00:52,120 --> 02:00:55,680 Yep, Yep, Tommy the beater. I mean, it, it happens. 2498 02:00:55,680 --> 02:00:57,760 There's a lot of it happened, you know, back, back, back the 2499 02:00:57,760 --> 02:01:00,680 day Kevin Moss with the Yankees, you know, like, oh, he went 2500 02:01:00,680 --> 02:01:04,720 from, you know, a left-handed hitting first baseman who played 2501 02:01:04,720 --> 02:01:08,720 at Stanford to the next Mickey Mantle, Rodger Maris, when he 2502 02:01:08,720 --> 02:01:11,200 hit like 12 home runs in his first 80 or 90 at bats, whatever 2503 02:01:11,200 --> 02:01:12,720 it was. And you know, he had like the 2504 02:01:12,720 --> 02:01:16,600 movie star looks in the square jaw, 6 foot 5, big old school 2505 02:01:16,600 --> 02:01:19,760 stance and hitting bombs. And Yankees were terrible at 2506 02:01:19,760 --> 02:01:22,240 that point. Donnie's back was at his 2507 02:01:22,240 --> 02:01:26,400 absolute worst. This would be 4 stumped, pardon 2508 02:01:26,400 --> 02:01:28,720 me, before Buck really came and fixed things. 2509 02:01:28,720 --> 02:01:31,520 It was kind of at the end of the stump era where the Yankees were 2510 02:01:31,520 --> 02:01:34,320 awful. And I know Moss kind of was 2511 02:01:34,320 --> 02:01:36,280 around a little bit more than a year for sure. 2512 02:01:36,280 --> 02:01:40,680 But when you're down and you see a little something, that's why 2513 02:01:41,200 --> 02:01:43,240 all the conversations and that that's what makes it so 2514 02:01:43,240 --> 02:01:46,440 gratifying that I've had on the radio about Eddie Curry, about 2515 02:01:46,440 --> 02:01:49,400 whatever draft pick we're talking about, about, you know, 2516 02:01:49,400 --> 02:01:52,840 maybe LeBron coming to save us back in the day, or Amari who 2517 02:01:52,840 --> 02:01:56,120 actually tried, or the Carmelo stuff and the insanity stuff. 2518 02:01:56,120 --> 02:01:58,960 Or hey, Phil Jackson's coming. Even though he's not the coach, 2519 02:01:58,960 --> 02:02:01,360 he's the executive. We got a champion coming to make 2520 02:02:01,360 --> 02:02:04,400 this like with these things that we just latch onto out of 2521 02:02:04,400 --> 02:02:07,080 desperation. It really it is. 2522 02:02:07,080 --> 02:02:10,440 It is more times than not, overwhelmingly it's just a 2523 02:02:10,480 --> 02:02:14,520 fruitless endeavor. It's a complete waste of time. 2524 02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:18,600 So you get this. You get this as you you're a 2525 02:02:18,600 --> 02:02:22,320 Knick fan once in a lifetime in terms of like, well, I mean in 2526 02:02:22,320 --> 02:02:25,080 terms of making the finals three times for me, but you know what 2527 02:02:25,080 --> 02:02:26,760 I mean? I didn't think that any chance 2528 02:02:26,760 --> 02:02:28,360 in 99. I thought we were going to win 2529 02:02:28,360 --> 02:02:31,880 in 94, but that's also decades ago at this point. 2530 02:02:31,880 --> 02:02:34,440 Enjoy it save Rick. I can't wait to run through this 2531 02:02:34,440 --> 02:02:36,080 with you guys in terms of the journey. 2532 02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:38,560 Really, really just you know, it's crazy. 2533 02:02:38,560 --> 02:02:40,880 We're here. We are three rounds in, but now 2534 02:02:40,880 --> 02:02:43,720 it's just starting now it's going to be a different watch. 2535 02:02:44,160 --> 02:02:47,200 It's going to be a different fear, like a different, it's 2536 02:02:47,200 --> 02:02:49,600 going to be a different energy because they're just not going 2537 02:02:49,600 --> 02:02:52,160 to mop, whether it's the Spurs or the Thunder, this is over 2538 02:02:52,560 --> 02:02:55,720 like winning by 20 points a night and winning by 51 and 31 2539 02:02:55,720 --> 02:02:58,600 and 37 on the road. And Jalen Brunson not playing a 2540 02:02:58,600 --> 02:03:01,640 single second in the close out game of the fourth quarter. 2541 02:03:01,880 --> 02:03:04,600 And us watching Tyler Kolek and and you know, all the other 2542 02:03:04,600 --> 02:03:07,320 reserves who we respect, but doing floaters and hitting bombs 2543 02:03:07,320 --> 02:03:10,560 like Theo are like just shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot. 2544 02:03:10,760 --> 02:03:15,760 Like it's it's crazy like it is, it's just it's been an awesome 2545 02:03:15,760 --> 02:03:19,000 run. So we're just getting going now. 2546 02:03:19,000 --> 02:03:21,880 The tough part, they're all tough, but now is the now it's 2547 02:03:21,880 --> 02:03:26,480 the last round, it's the last climb and I can't wait. 2548 02:03:26,480 --> 02:03:28,520 So that's about it, man. I'm going to wrap it up now. 2549 02:03:28,520 --> 02:03:29,840 Jay, do you have anything else for us here? 2550 02:03:29,840 --> 02:03:33,640 I mean, I've got one more chat you can hit on a on a certain 2551 02:03:33,720 --> 02:03:38,360 potentially divisive topic that could lead to a great segment or 2552 02:03:38,360 --> 02:03:40,960 clip. And it comes from a super chat 2553 02:03:40,960 --> 02:03:43,320 from our friend Johnny Boy. Are you willing? 2554 02:03:43,320 --> 02:03:47,440 Are you willing to to to breach the topic unleashed? 2555 02:03:48,200 --> 02:03:50,200 Obviously you touched it on Twitter already. 2556 02:03:50,240 --> 02:03:52,800 I did, yeah. And you and you know your answer 2557 02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:56,600 was pretty reasonable. Yeah, yeah, of course. 2558 02:03:56,600 --> 02:03:58,240 Like I'm not afraid to touch anything. 2559 02:03:59,200 --> 02:04:02,640 Yeah, I had that written, but I was going to actually save it 2560 02:04:02,640 --> 02:04:05,560 for tomorrow. I mean, we can do that too. 2561 02:04:05,840 --> 02:04:09,680 I know, but it was a couple of days ago and I don't want to 2562 02:04:09,680 --> 02:04:12,400 just stuff it in here and not give it the time that I'm going 2563 02:04:12,400 --> 02:04:14,440 to save it for the ball. I'm going to save it. 2564 02:04:14,440 --> 02:04:15,920 I'm going to save it. Yeah. 2565 02:04:15,920 --> 02:04:18,040 Make just, I haven't written down, but make a note. 2566 02:04:18,040 --> 02:04:19,600 He doesn't need to do another super chat. 2567 02:04:19,600 --> 02:04:22,520 Like I appreciate school, but just make a notation of that. 2568 02:04:22,520 --> 02:04:24,000 I'm going to do something like that. 2569 02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:26,360 I don't want to just cherry pick and selective. 2570 02:04:26,440 --> 02:04:29,240 I am like, you know, I'm also, you know, 2 hours and 10 minutes 2571 02:04:29,240 --> 02:04:32,160 with just going hard. You know, my my head starting to 2572 02:04:32,160 --> 02:04:35,280 hurt a little bit and I want to have that discussion and I also 2573 02:04:35,280 --> 02:04:38,720 don't want that discussion to get in the way of reveling where 2574 02:04:38,720 --> 02:04:39,960 the Knicks. Are you know what? 2575 02:04:40,080 --> 02:04:42,640 I'm saying no. This is This video is Knicks. 2576 02:04:42,640 --> 02:04:45,160 This is a Knicks video right here. 2577 02:04:46,080 --> 02:04:49,000 Yes, yes. So I will do a little bit of 2578 02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:50,560 that tomorrow. I promise you I'll do more than 2579 02:04:50,560 --> 02:04:52,920 a little bit on that tomorrow 'cause it's not just, it's more 2580 02:04:52,920 --> 02:04:54,960 of a deeper commentary on society. 2581 02:04:55,160 --> 02:04:58,040 Like it's not just Carter tweeting what he tweeted, 2582 02:04:58,640 --> 02:05:02,360 Jackson Dart coming and and introducing President Trump. 2583 02:05:02,360 --> 02:05:05,400 Like that's just that. That's the New York example. 2584 02:05:05,400 --> 02:05:06,880 Like that's the most recent example. 2585 02:05:06,880 --> 02:05:09,960 But there's so many other tentacles to it, which which I 2586 02:05:09,960 --> 02:05:12,160 will intelligently discuss and look forward to it. 2587 02:05:12,160 --> 02:05:14,280 So I'll do that tomorrow. You never know what else is 2588 02:05:14,280 --> 02:05:18,760 going to pop on. I'm trying to lock in Alex. 2589 02:05:19,600 --> 02:05:22,120 He told me he's good this week. I don't have a day yet. 2590 02:05:22,440 --> 02:05:24,720 I see a lot of messages here from some numbers I don't even 2591 02:05:24,720 --> 02:05:26,440 recognize. So I've got some feelers out 2592 02:05:26,440 --> 02:05:29,000 there for some other guests. It's going to be a big week on 2593 02:05:29,000 --> 02:05:31,200 the show, put it that way. So thanks to everybody who 2594 02:05:31,200 --> 02:05:33,360 chimed in. Appreciate you guys liking it, 2595 02:05:33,360 --> 02:05:37,120 subbing it, sharing it, getting it out there, a couple of calls, 2596 02:05:37,120 --> 02:05:41,120 some great chats, great energy. And obviously, you know, we get 2597 02:05:41,120 --> 02:05:44,400 a little deeper diversify some stuff like like the dart and the 2598 02:05:44,400 --> 02:05:47,240 Abdul Carter stuff. But it's going to be A and not 2599 02:05:47,240 --> 02:05:48,840 just Knicks. I mean, you're a Thunder fan. 2600 02:05:48,840 --> 02:05:52,240 You're you're a spurs fan and I will be following this series 2601 02:05:52,640 --> 02:05:55,000 every single possession like this is where I put on the 2602 02:05:55,000 --> 02:05:58,000 advanced scouting hat like that's what I was doing, you 2603 02:05:58,000 --> 02:06:00,560 know, on what's today with the off date always throws me off 2604 02:06:00,600 --> 02:06:02,200 next on Sunday. That's what I was doing on 2605 02:06:02,200 --> 02:06:05,840 Sunday night watching that game. So it's it's going to be fun and 2606 02:06:05,840 --> 02:06:07,360 hopefully it culminates with the parade. 2607 02:06:07,360 --> 02:06:10,320 And then we just lose our minds and we go absolutely bonkers. 2608 02:06:10,320 --> 02:06:12,840 All right, so have a great rest of you Tuesday. 2609 02:06:13,000 --> 02:06:15,960 Catch you guys tomorrow at at 10. 2610 02:06:16,440 --> 02:06:20,080 Now Jay, quickly as we go out here, right, do we have the new 2611 02:06:20,080 --> 02:06:22,040 little open? Did you do it on the back end as 2612 02:06:22,040 --> 02:06:22,960 well or? What? 2613 02:06:23,240 --> 02:06:24,800 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we got that. 2614 02:06:24,800 --> 02:06:26,840 We we got that outro looking clean. 2615 02:06:27,120 --> 02:06:30,240 So the all right, so if you mix the the intro just a little 2616 02:06:30,240 --> 02:06:32,720 little subtle. Little subtle difference we'll 2617 02:06:32,720 --> 02:06:34,240 keep. We'll keep making tweaks all the 2618 02:06:34,240 --> 02:06:35,880 time, babe. That's right, hit me with it now 2619 02:06:35,880 --> 02:06:37,480 and I'll catch you guys tomorrow, Pace. 2620 02:07:02,280 --> 02:07:02,560 Listening.