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me? 
Not everybody beats you on 

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leash. 
I just want to make sure 

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everybody's done complaining. 
Has everybody gotten their 

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whining out of the way? 
Is everybody done complaining 

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about how bad the Super Bowl 
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the halftime show, which was 
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Is everybody good? 
Is everybody OK? 

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Is everybody over their feelings
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Everybody ready to talk about 
something that I think is pretty

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important? 
Because I think what's happened 

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here, guys, right, is we have 
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important thing. 
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I'm going to bring to the table 
that that nobody really seems to

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bring to the table. 
And it's a very simple concept. 

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I'm going to say it and I'm 
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All right? 
And the concept is this. 

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The thought is this. 
My belief, my conviction is 

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this. 
Rodger Goodell has ruined the 

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NFL, period. 
There's nothing else to say. 

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Rodger Goodell has ruined the 
NFL. 

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Now, understand this, guys, that
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obviously make money. 
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get clear and distinct 
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I'm not talking about the 
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It's through the roof. 
I mean, you look at all the new 

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stadiums, you look at all the 
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different deals. 
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at the globalization of the game
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of each franchise. 
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The man has done his job in that
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So when you are hired as a 
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to the owners and obviously, you
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entire sport. 
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Goodell's Grand Slam, he's done 
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could do it. 
I'm not talking about that. 

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That's a waste of time. 
All you have to do is a very 

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rudimentary search on the growth
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understand the man's done his 
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I'm talking about how it affects
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impacts me. 
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it has been ruined on a lot of 
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Now also understand this. 
The NF LS got one built in 

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advantage. 
That's never going to go away. 

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That's gambling, right. 
So obviously you could gamble on

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the other sports and I certainly
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I do I've I've I've put some 
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U.S. 
Open, the British Open. 

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I bet some baseball, they'll run
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There's of course you can bet at
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You want to bet the overrun 
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right. 
You want to do some prop stuff 

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pre season win totals, you know,
get some odds on a team to get 

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to the championship. 
You can bet anything. 

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But, and this is not a byproduct
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Well, it's just more fun to bet 
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There really is. 
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on baseball's not profitable, 
but it's pretty freaking boring.

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Like if you bet baseball, it's a
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the Mets in Philly, and the over
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like, yeah, you know, you look 
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your homework, blah, blah, blah.
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spot to win money and you put 
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then you watch the game. 
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three run bomb in the first 
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That's obviously pretty good. 
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not quite halfway there, but 
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winning the bet. 
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It's not nearly as fun. 
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NFL and you get a quick turnover
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pick 6 or a 70 or touchdown or a
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changes and flips the field. 
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plays later, your team scores or
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It's a different energy. 
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Rodger Goodell didn't create 
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or about things that he had 
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gambling, whether it's 
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stuff's different. 
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this is part of my complaint, 
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it's been diluted a bit, but, 
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It's a long watch. 
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every night. 
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baseball. 
It's your, you know, forever 

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companion. 
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It's totally different energy. 
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you're not going to throw on 
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your Soto jersey if you go to 
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really sitting on the couch. 
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Rays, you know, Mets, Padres, 
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Are you really jacked up the way
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sure that we understand that I'm
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of sport in the financial sense.
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And Rodger Goodell has done a 
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Really all the commissioner. 
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make money at the unless you are
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platforms, the monetization on 
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outlets there. 
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if it if your sports become 
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can't stand Gary Bettman, but 
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because everybody was 
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watching. 
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back to the game. 
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as I've ever watched here, but I
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have no points. 
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competitive second-half and we 
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made it semi interesting, semi 
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complete bore. 
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this is my stance with 
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stuff that is laced with like 
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politics for some, you know, I 
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waters. 
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anybody, you know, in the 
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I'm not afraid to do it. 
I'm educated. 

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I watch multiple cable outlets. 
I know what's going on in the 

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world, but I don't shove it down
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Everybody feels this incessant 
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tweet something about, you know,
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Trump or pro world or anti. 
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really, as I just watched so 
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themselves. 
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about some of these tweets and 
some of these opinions, they're 

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not real that that's one of my 
I'll get back to you down with 

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them. 
This is a little sideswipe here.

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This bothers me more than 
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If there's an issue that you are
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passionate about and you want to
jump in and you want to express 

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yourself, then you've clearly 
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to do that. 
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democracy is all about and 
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this business and I have talked 
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business, both on the air and 
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off the air, which is more 
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And I would never name names, 
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people that I know pretty well 
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not because they're both pro and
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halftime, right? 
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or they, but because they want 
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That's really what's happening 
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A lot of the tweets that use and
a lot of the opinions that are 

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formed by a lot of people that 
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and that you listen to and that 
and that you are entertained by.

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They don't even believe half the
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there. 
They're trying to be accepted. 

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They're trying to fit in. 
They're trying to get some 

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equity. 
I don't do that because I don't 

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do that because I don't need to 
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And I don't need to do that 
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rational takes on on, you know, 
either side of the aisle that I 

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feel compelled to go and make 
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equity within the fan base. 
I'm a content producer. 

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I talk about sports. 
All right, I'll weigh into some 

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other stuff. 
You know, I enjoy doing that, 

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but I'm not going to shove it 
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carryover, I expected it's 
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whether it's a YouTube short. 
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Oh my. 
How important do you think that 

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you are that you've got to go 
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what you think about Bunny good,
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bad. 
Give me a break. 

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You're not that important, dude.
And as I learned very quickly, 

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jobs can be taken away like 
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So everybody who thinks they're 
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standing at their little pulpit 
of preaching, you know, let me 

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just throw this tweet out there 
to to either embolden people who

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are aligned with my thinking or 
to knock people who don't agree 

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with what I espouse. 
Give me that is the thing that 

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drives me the most nuts about 
the the way the sports world 

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goes now and it seeps and it 
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It seeps that it trickles into 

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every every show on TV, every 
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Invariably you are going to get 
takes that really for many are 

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offensive and some of you will 
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That's fine. 
That your prerogative. 

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I'm not going to tell you what 
to think. 

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I'm not going to tell you what 
to do. 

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You know, it's long. 
Listen, I long ago learned. 

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I long ago learned that as long 
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care who you vote for. 
I don't care what music you 

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I just don't care. 

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There's a lot of other stuff 
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If you think that I'm going to 
waste my time or I'm going to 

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waste your time shoving this 
stuff every way, every which way

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sideways just to to look, get a 
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social media equity, get lost. 
You couldn't pay me to play that

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game. 
That game is played out. 

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That game is weak. 
And I would like a lot of people

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in my business to figure that 
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You're not nearly as important 
as you think you are. 

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Nobody gives a shit about what 
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They really don't. 
I know that you think that they 

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do They don't. 
And just because you might get, 

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you know, 1700 likes and, you 
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people punctuating, which is, 
yeah, yeah, it is not 

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reflective. 
And then the rants over, we get 

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back to get down and then the 
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It is not reflective of what 
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It's really not. 
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Anytime something polarizing 
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into the sports world, I got 
news for everybody. 

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All right, take the 10% lunatics
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Take the 10% lunatics on the 
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If we could get rid of those 
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them go away and maybe start 
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say whatever they want to do 
whatever they want, I got news 

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for everybody. 
We'd have a lot more harmony. 

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We'd have a lot more peace. 
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consistency. 
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and we would have a whole hell 
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world and hate. 
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So if the messaging and I saw 
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great. 
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only thing strong with her and 
hate is love. 

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Like if you can't agree with 
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wrong with you. 
This that that's a you problem. 

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That's not a me problem. 
That's not a Bunny problem. 

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That's not a Trump problem. 
That's not a left or right or 

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centrist problem. 
That is a you problem. 

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So get over yourself because the
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think about politics, if you're 
a sports guy, they are quickly 

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coming to an end under get that 
memo, understand that and just 

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incorporated an ounce of 
awareness and an ounce of 

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sensibility. 
So what you tweet, there's 

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repercussions that might not be 
immediate, but downstream that's

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coming back to roost. 
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disenchanted I am and how 
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many reckless opinions and the 
infighting. 

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It is a joke, absolute joke. 
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table today. 
You know, it just, it's crazy. 

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I read these tweets. 
I'm like, man, people. 

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I know people I call friends. 
Like, what the hell is wrong 

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with you? 
You really think that you matter

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that much? 
You don't mean anything in the 

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grand scheme of the world. 
You don't mean anything in the 

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grand scheme of life. 
Platforms can be taken away. 

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Shows will move on. 
Stations and networks will move 

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on. 
Understand that, people, because

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you are you're you're burying 
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You just don't know it. 
You're too dumb to know it. 

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You're too stuck into whatever 
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somebody's throat to know it. 
All right, All right. 

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So I had to get that off the 
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I had to get that off my chest. 
I absolutely had to. 

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I had to. 
Like I felt it Sunday. 

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I'm going to move on. 
I felt it Sunday night, but I 

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was at a party. 
Great people. 

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I told you we had both on. 
We had buddy on one tube and it 

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wasn't at my house. 
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They have ATV in the kitchen and
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when the hell does the game get 
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Like can we crowd a champion? 
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great commissioner for the 
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He's a horrendous commissioner 
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So I started writing some things
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these in a moment. 
I just want to want to rifle 

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through some things that that 
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I think, I think unfortunately, 
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it's it's irreversible, the 
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I really do. 
All right, so #1 the officiating

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week to week is a massive issue.
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that, you know it, the league is
fixed. 

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I, I don't subscribe to that 
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If you believe the league is 
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you. 
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occurrences. 
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There's been some things that 
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kind of make you think, oh jeez,
do they really want to get this 

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guy to the big game where they 
really want to penalize this 

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team? 
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the ratings like you used to 
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time, like in a in a Eastern 
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get to the fine, maybe not the 
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in the NBA playoffs and there's 
a you you start hearing this 

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like, well, all right, let's at 
Oklahoma. 

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Let's take OK C like Oklahoma 
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box like, is that really good 
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No, it's not because it's not a 
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representation of the of the 
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for some bigger teams like the 
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etcetera. 
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like even Jordan, you know, or 
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Kobe and Shaq and and some other
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don't need to run through. 
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thought that all right, you'll 
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Hey, listen, this team's down 2 
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Make sure they get the whistle 
tonight. 

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We got to make sure we extend 
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We got to make sure we get the 
extra game. 

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We got to make sure we make the 
extra money. 

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We got to make sure we put 
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the absolute best ratings match 
up in the NBA Finals or whatever

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it might be. 
So I get the complaints with the

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officiating. 
It's madding. 

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I mean, you can't do anything. 
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could be watching 1 channel, 
like you could be watching The 

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Jets game on CBS and there's one
call that's made, It's one 

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interpretation of the rule. 
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Giants against, I don't know, 
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they happen to be playing at the
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And it's a very similar play, 
pass interference, whatever it 

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might be illegal contact 5 yards
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of those kind of calls. 
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crew, that officiating crew 
interpreted completely 

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differently, much like a strike 
zone of all the strikes. 

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Those things are madding. 
They've forever been an issue. 

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I'm not dumping that all at 
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I don't think that that's fair. 
But the officiating week to week

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is a massive issue #2 the 
constant rules changes, there is

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always something new every year 
that it takes us forever to 

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understand what the hell they're
looking for. 

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of goes back to the the 
officiating, like the 

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interpretation of what they saw 
based on what they're looking 

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for. 
It just leaves you scratching 

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your head. 
And I think anytime the 

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conversation becomes more about 
those ancillary things, which 

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actually do become fairly big 
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who wins and job security and 
legacies and all that stuff 

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downstream. 
But like, when you're talking 

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about a bad call and you're not 
talking about the game or a 

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great player or a great matchup 
or a great possibility, that's 

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not good for the sport. 
We know that #3 the overall, 

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this is a massive 1. 
And this is all on Rodger 

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Goodell. 
I cannot exonerate him. 

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Not that I'm looking to at all. 
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The overall dilution of the 
product is absolutely 

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ridiculous. 
Now, what are the great 

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advantages about football is 
that we're wired in a way. 

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That's why I gave you like when 
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Tuesday night against whomever a
fairly benign game. 

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I don't mean Yanks, Red Sox, I 
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something else right where you 
know, you want your team to win.

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You want you got to hit a home 
run. 

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You want your pitcher to pitch 
well, whatever. 

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But it's it doesn't really have 
that that that midweek juice big

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picture and the advantage with 
the NFL. 

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And it was it was a gift. 
It was handed to him just based 

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on the sheer physical violence 
of the sport. 

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You can't play everyday. 
You can't play three times a 

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week. 
Now we've seen that that time in

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between games truncated, like 
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Sunday night game and then be 
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And players obviously protest 
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And they're absolutely right 
because now the product is 

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diminished on Thursday. 
But the dilution of the game, it

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was always all right. 
I got like you play on Sunday 

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and and, and, and, and you react
right after the game, right? 

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And then like Monday, you unpack
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you still unpack the game a 
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I'm talking about from my point 
of view on the air and and 

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obviously he's a fan. 
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making that turn. 
All right, who's up next 

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storylines bench this 
quarterback? 

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Is this guy going to get whacked
as a coach? 

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Like all that stuff? 
And it was a basically a week 

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long dance, like going through 
the labyrinth of emotions that 

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really, really made it fun. 
But when I talk about dilution, 

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there's just too many games and 
this like I I don't I don't 

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really need meaningful pre 
season games. 

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I get it. 
I don't need Patrick Mahomes to 

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play into the third quarter. 
You know, the third game, like 

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the like, you know, like they 
used to back in the day. 

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I mean it was a point Jets 
giants, that third game, Eli 

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Pennington, whomever they 
Patiki, they play into the third

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quarter stray hand, you know, 
all those guys, Curtis Martin 

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and it represented a game. 
But it was fun because at least 

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you can glean something from 
that and get a sense of what the

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team had, right? 
So, and it's just more fun than 

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watching backups, many of which 
we don't really know, like third

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string tight ends, guys like 
that trying to make the roster. 

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It's important to them, but it's
not incredibly appealing to us. 

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So. 
So now what's happened? 

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Because the Summer Games mean 
absolutely nothing. 

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Nobody plays. 
I mean, nobody, all right, I'm 

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not even going to fight that 
because I do get that. 

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But what's happened now with the
extra game and the lengthening 

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of the season, September has now
become less important. 

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You could start one and three. 
Hell, you can start O and four. 

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And if you've got the right team
and the right quarterback and 

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the right coach, you can still 
climb your way back into it and 

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be a playoff team like when I 
was growing up. 

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You're owing 4, you're dead. 
It's over. 

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Man sees pull the plug. 
It's over. 

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It's nothing else to watch. 
You're going to watch, but 

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there's really nothing to hope 
for over. 

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Even one in three kind of over. 
So the urgency in September and 

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the feeling out process of guys 
getting their wind, guys getting

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their legs, guys get getting 
used to getting hit, guys 

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getting used to hitting people 
again as though 2A days like 

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they used to be with Parcells. 
So you're not popping each other

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in training camp really. 
It's all pads and it's all, you 

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know, controlled tackling, which
I also understand. 

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But that should never bleed into
September. 

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And it does. 
So now you talk about the 

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dilution overall of the product,
right? 

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And long ago, this is #4 Rodger 
Goodell, more than any other 

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commissioner, was the first to 
succumb to corporate greed. 

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That's what he did. 
His hands were out Gimme, Gimme,

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Gimme, Gimme, Gimme, Gimme, 
Gimme. 

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And I get it while he's saying 
Gimme and he's getting guess 

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who's guess who's suffering? 
Not the owners, right? 

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Not the coaches, not the players
who and they should make as much

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money as they possibly could. 
Like I'll never especially 

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football non guaranteed 
contracts, but without the 

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guaranteed money like the the 
the the back end of contracts 

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restructure cut a guy, make as 
much money as you can. 

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I will never begrudge a football
player for fighting for or 

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holding out and getting every 
penny that they can conceivably 

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get. 
But what I mean by succumbing to

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corporate greed, everything 
around the game has has taken 

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less, feels less big. 
You know, again, it's hard for a

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Tuesday night may match up 
between whomever and baseball to

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feel big and maybe Sunday night.
Yanks, Red Sox, the Dodgers, 

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Giants, Dodgers, Padres, 
Phillies, Braves. 

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Sure, that's got about as big as
you can have for regular season 

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baseball game, but the corporate
greed that has permeated the 

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sport, they've all gotten rich. 
And I don't begrudge them for 

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doing that either because they 
are owners and they've they've 

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00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,400
and they're there whether it's 
been handed to them by their dad

449
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,720
or their uncle. 
They've got generational wealth.

450
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,720
And when you've got generational
wealth, I'm not mad at you. 

451
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,240
I just hope you're responsible 
and I hope that you get back to 

452
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,640
the community a little bit. 
But the corporate greed has 

453
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:39,840
destroyed the NFL overall. 
Fan alienation is now #5 I mean,

454
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:44,040
what do you really feel good as 
a football fan think about this.

455
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,320
Do you really feel good about 
the NFL? 

456
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,960
Let me read this real quick at 
Matt Shevon yesterday. 

457
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,600
The NFL wouldn't give a specific
date for the 2028 Super Bowl in 

458
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,040
Atlanta because they're adding 
an 18th game. 

459
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,040
Exactly. 
So it'll push it back to 

460
00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,360
Presidents Day weekend. 
It just gets deeper and deeper 

461
00:23:00,360 --> 00:23:02,520
and deeper and deeper. 
We've got limits as to how much 

462
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,200
we're going to watch you sport, 
bottom line. 

463
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,560
And it's getting very expensive.
So there's the investment of 

464
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,280
time and then there's the 
investment of the dollar. 

465
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,960
Now time is is all relative. 
If you're young, you know, and 

466
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:19,800
you're 232425, just out of 
college, not married, no kids, 

467
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,000
maybe you got your first 
apartment, couple of buddies, 

468
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,360
couple of girlfriends, whatever 
it is you want to go to the bar,

469
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,320
you want to, you know, bet every
game known to man like I've 

470
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,400
done, you know, that's a, that's
fun. 

471
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,960
But eventually that expires that
eventually, you know, even if 

472
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,520
you don't get married and have 
kids, there's more real life 

473
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,480
responsibility. 
So the, the, the desire is one 

474
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,120
thing, but the, the ability to 
commit yourself to the sport, it

475
00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:45,640
just evaporates compared to what
it once was. 

476
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,680
So fan alienation is a real, 
real problem. 

477
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,400
It doesn't seem like they're 
serving us at all. 

478
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:52,760
They don't care about us one 
bit. 

479
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,880
And I've always known Matt, not 
on me when I was 12. 

480
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,280
And I don't even think I really 
thought that when I was getting 

481
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,240
into the business. 
But I long ago learned they 

482
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,440
don't care about you. 
They don't care about me. 

483
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:09,000
And even more sad, and this is a
real important subset of fan 

484
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,160
alienation, they don't really 
even care about America anymore.

485
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,080
We got a football game in 
Australia next year. 

486
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,360
What the hell are we doing, 
Australia? 

487
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,000
And I love Australia. 
I've got fans on this channel 

488
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,320
from Australia. 
Beautiful country, a country 

489
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,040
that I want to visit at some 
point when I can. 

490
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,000
You know, it's just so far and 
it's, you know, it's, it's just 

491
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,040
a lot of logistical things that 
I can't get there now. 

492
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,040
Gorgeous land, gorgeous 
tradition, beautiful, beautiful 

493
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,480
piece of that's God's country. 
It's God's earth. 

494
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,640
It's beautiful, but I don't 
understand. 

495
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,520
Well, I do that's let me say I 
do understand. 

496
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,520
It's greed. 
Let me let me reframe it. 

497
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:54,280
I I find it patently offensive, 
right, to take a game, whether 

498
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,720
it's at Lambeau, whether it's in
Baltimore, whether it's in 

499
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,680
MetLife, which sucks, but that's
not the point. 

500
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,880
Whatever team that you watch to 
take one of those eight or nine,

501
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,800
depending upon the season, 
sacred home games and give it to

502
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,920
Australia or give it to London 
or give it to Mexico or give it 

503
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,400
to Brazil. 
That is about making money 

504
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,440
because that's not doing a damn 
thing for us. 

505
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,000
It is it is taxing on the 
players, especially if you're 

506
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,800
traveling to Australia, you 
know, it's just far away. 

507
00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:26,880
You know, it's it's the feel a 
lot of time the turf is like the

508
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,960
standards aren't the same. 
And please, this is this is not 

509
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,480
a knock. 
I'm not trying to sound like 

510
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:36,600
that territorial, you know, 
American, you know, whatever, 

511
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,120
but it's OK to have American 
pride. 

512
00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:41,880
Like I'm, I'm never going to shy
away for that's our sport. 

513
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:47,040
That's our sport, all right. 
And the more we do that, we 

514
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,800
become desensitized to it. 
And the more it's OK, and guess 

515
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,280
what? 
The more it's OK, the more 

516
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,240
they're going to take. 
They're more they're going to 

517
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,960
keep grabbing. 
And instead of missing one game 

518
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,800
at Lambeau watch in 10 years, it
might be two. 

519
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,720
So you are now taking tried and 
true traditions, generations of 

520
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,640
football fans that help build up
your sport. 

521
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,560
And you know what you're doing, 
you give them the finger, that's

522
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,400
what you're doing. 
You don't care about them. 

523
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,120
So somebody's got to say this 
because the NFL to me right now 

524
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,800
is broken. 
It's absolutely broken. 

525
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,760
So fan alienation is a massive 
problem. 

526
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,280
Number six, and this is part 
they're all kind of woven 

527
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,680
together on some level. 
Broadcast fragmentation. 

528
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,640
What the hell does that mean? 
Yeah. 

529
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,080
What channel is the game on? 
Is it on CBS? 

530
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,760
Is it on Fox? 
Is it on Peacock? 

531
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,400
Is it on Prime? 
Where's the game? 

532
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:41,800
Is it on NFL? 
I don't know. 

533
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,680
Do you have the now I have them 
all because what I do for a 

534
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,000
living, etcetera. 
But do you have the game? 

535
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,320
I know for a fact there's games.
My dad can't find it. 

536
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,840
Even if he could. 
I don't even know if he has it. 

537
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,760
Like there are just certain 
games where the older generation

538
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,880
gets shut out. 
Nobody stands up for the older 

539
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,640
generation. 
I do because they were the ones 

540
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,120
who built the sport on their 
backs. 

541
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:07,960
Just look at all and look at any
old NFL Films video, right, And 

542
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,880
you know you've got you've got 
the the stadiums full of working

543
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,360
class people, working class 
people. 

544
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,280
They could afford it. 
They could go now. 

545
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,600
And I don't go to as many games 
as I used to when I used to have

546
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,800
season tickets for The Jets, 
right, But I've so I'm not going

547
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,720
to get too deep into it. 
But I told you the story. 

548
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,880
I went to the I went to two jets
games this year. 

549
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,840
Jets Browns was the first one. 
It was raining. 

550
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,480
What else is new? 
Although The Jets did win. 

551
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,280
So that was a big surprise at a 
welcome one. 

552
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,800
It was it was fun. 
Anyway. 

553
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,480
My father-in-law is from Ohio. 
He's in Texas now. 

554
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,800
He's kind of become a Cowboys 
fan, but in his core, it is 

555
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,800
blood. 
He's a Browns fan. 

556
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,200
I remember when we were first 
dating, I got him a really cool 

557
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,120
Browns hoodie, like a really 
good that he actually wore to 

558
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:50,040
the game. 
So he's had it well over 10. 

559
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,240
You're probably 15 years at this
point anyway. 

560
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,560
Grew up rooting for the Browns, 
watching every game, going to 

561
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,840
the games. 
And they were coming in for 

562
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,720
their anniversary and my wife 
said, hey, what, what do you 

563
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:00,840
think about going to The Jets 
game? 

564
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,440
I had already gotten the tickets
because I'm that kind of, I'm 

565
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,800
that kind of person. 
I got, I'm that kind of husband 

566
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,440
and I got some, I got some 
points that week. 

567
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,600
It was good, right? 
So I did it before she even 

568
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,440
asked me and she was stunned. 
She like, you already got them? 

569
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,680
Yeah, I got them. 
Anyway, it's me, it's her. 

570
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,800
It's my two kids, my 
mother-in-law, my father-in-law.

571
00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:20,480
Really good seats, access to the
Corona Club. 

572
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,480
So when it's raining, but you 
know, get you get dry, you want 

573
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,440
to go to the bathroom, There's 
not a massive line. 

574
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,840
You want to get all sorts of 
food. 

575
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,080
It's fun. 
Like if you go to MetLife and 

576
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,080
you have the money and the means
to do it and you go to the 

577
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,800
Corona Club or one of the other 
clubs, it's actually a pretty 

578
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,200
good experience. 
It's not really an experience 

579
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,960
that like compared to my 
experiences back in the day, 

580
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,160
going with my buddies, hammering
9 beers in the parking lot and 

581
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,800
not taking my eyes off the field
unless I really, truly, truly 

582
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,080
had to go to the bathroom 
because I already ate in the 

583
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,400
parking lot. 
I'm not going to get food. 

584
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,440
I'm just sneaking beers in and 
I'm watching The Jets with 

585
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,320
Parcells, right? 
So I know people consume games 

586
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,720
differently, right? 
But I remember pulling it to the

587
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,120
parking lot and I'm not cheap. 
I'm also not, you know, 

588
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,280
generationally wealthy. 
So all right, 100 bucks for 

589
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,000
parking. 
Wow, 100 bucks for parking. 

590
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,200
My God, it's The Jets and the 
Browns. 100 bucks. 

591
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,800
What are you going to do? 
No, I can't pay it. 

592
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,360
I am going to stand my ground 
today and I'm going to be on 

593
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,200
principle. 
I refuse to pay the 100 bucks. 

594
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,240
All right, make AU turn, go back
home. 

595
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,880
Everybody's miserable. 
Of course you're going to pay 

596
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,560
the 100 bucks like an idiot. 
They got you by the short ones. 

597
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,280
They know it, we know it. 
So you pay it right. 

598
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:29,840
And then the tickets were up the
ass. 

599
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:37,680
It was probably probably about a
14 or a little more, maybe about

600
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:43,040
a 15 or a $1600 day just for one
day, you know, you know, shit, 

601
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,880
if I knew I was going to lose my
job, I don't know if I would 

602
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,720
have done it. 
It was great. 

603
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,920
We loved it and, and it's good 
for the family and all that 

604
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:53,040
great stuff, but it is just 
ridiculously expensive to go. 

605
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,840
And the more you look around the
stadiums, the more empty seats 

606
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,720
you see, the more you know, not 
to associate blue collar fans 

607
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,120
with being better fans. 
But that's been stripped away 

608
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,360
and it's just a a little bit of 
a different clientele because 

609
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,160
the the the Arden football fans,
those those fans who really help

610
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,280
support the sport and elevate 
it, they've been priced out and 

611
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,600
the NFL just doesn't care about 
you. 

612
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,120
So I know you have a choice. 
Nobody's holding the gun to you 

613
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,680
had to go to the game. 
But I mean, jeez, you want to go

614
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,920
to a game once in a while. 
Crazy prices, right? 

615
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,720
So, but that's what I mean when 
I talk about overall fan 

616
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,360
alienation, and that goes into 
the broadcast fragmentation as 

617
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,840
well, because if you want to 
watch certain games, you got to 

618
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,000
have certain streaming systems. 
There was, what was it the 

619
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,800
Dolphins game couple of years 
ago where, yeah, it was a wild 

620
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,200
card game. 
I think it was not that. 

621
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:47,680
I know it wasn't this year. 
It was two or three years ago, I

622
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,040
forget which one. 
I had to go to a boat, which I 

623
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,840
don't mind doing. 
You know, I had a couple beers, 

624
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,360
had some wings, a few buddies in
town. 

625
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,960
Not that I really care who won 
the game, but I wanted to watch 

626
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,800
an NFL playoff game. 
I did. 

627
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,960
I didn't have the streaming, so 
I think it was on Peacock before

628
00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:01,400
I got it. 
Now I have it. 

629
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:02,520
St. 
John's is on there, but I'm not 

630
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,160
a big soccer fan. 
So that's more soccer oriented, 

631
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,520
which is fine, but you got to 
jump through hoops just to watch

632
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,120
the game. 
And that's another anthem. 

633
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,920
That's another, you know, hey, 
Exhibit 9000 as to how the NFL 

634
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,120
and sports in general does not 
care for you. 

635
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,480
Now, the other thing too, and 
that's one thing that bothers me

636
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,800
the most. 
It it just really does like the 

637
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,600
fragmentation finding it. 
Do you have it, watching it, you

638
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,560
know, and then God forbid this 
drives me. 

639
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,640
And this applies to baseball as 
well. 

640
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,760
Yankees opening day is on 
Netflix. 

641
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,240
What Yankees, Yankees opening 
day is on Netflix. 

642
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:43,520
I remember when I was young and 
my mom knew what I was doing, 

643
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,200
but she was cool about it. 
And what I mean, young, not not 

644
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,480
high school. 
She I wouldn't get away with it 

645
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:48,560
in high school. 
I didn't even try it. 

646
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:54,120
But you know, first, second, 
third, maybe even 4th grade, 

647
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,600
That's kind of what it fizzled 
out a little bit. 

648
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,440
I would pretend I was sick on 
Opening Day so I could sit at 

649
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,920
home. 
But I could watch Scooter, watch

650
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,520
Mattingly, watch the Yankees. 
Then, of course, whenever the 

651
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,760
Mets were on, watch Connor watch
the Mets, right, Channel 11, 

652
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,400
Channel 9. 
I knew where the game was, 

653
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,480
right. 
But now it is on Netflix. 

654
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,360
I have Netflix. 
I'd love that. 

655
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,600
It's it's tremendous. 
Most of us do. 

656
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,640
What if you don't? 
What if you don't? 

657
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,400
What if you are? 
What if you're, I mean, it's 

658
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,680
going to, I don't mean to sound 
morbid here, but you know what 

659
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:29,080
if you are a 79 year old married
couple and like you're, you're 

660
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,640
and, and you're the man, right? 
You're the husband and you like 

661
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,520
your wife has all the 
subscriptions and you know, like

662
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,520
if my, I'm really talking about 
my like if my mom didn't sign up

663
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,720
for all this stuff, my dad, he 
would watch 5 channels. 

664
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,400
He wouldn't know how to do this 
right. 

665
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,600
So like in this, in this 
example, because unfortunately 

666
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,680
this is real life. 
You know what happens when your 

667
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,920
spouse passes away and you don't
know how to do this stuff? 

668
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,800
He's not watch the game. 
I mean, think about that. 

669
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,160
You could be a 55 year Yankee 
fan. 

670
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,320
I don't mean being 55 years of 
age. 

671
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,680
I mean being a Yankee fan for 55
or 60 years. 

672
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,240
You can't watch opening day. 
It's a sacred gift of baseball. 

673
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,640
Opening day. 
You can't watch it, man, oh man.

674
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,120
And if you can, again, you got 
to jump through hoops to do it. 

675
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,720
But these are all things that 
drive me nuts. 

676
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,640
But I think the NFL by far is 
the worst at this. 

677
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,440
Now, this one bothers me as 
well. 

678
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,200
Part of it I get. 
Part of it I can't stand. 

679
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,720
I'm going to push back the 
sanitization of the league. 

680
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,880
It's been homogenized. 
There's no personalities 

681
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,400
anymore. 
And I'm not talking about 

682
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,760
vicious hits where you come in 
with your elbow when you take 

683
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,080
somebody's head out across the 
middle. 

684
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,200
I'm not talking about concussion
and and protocol. 

685
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,320
I don't mean that stuff. 
But celebrate you. 

686
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,240
You celebrate too excessively. 
There's a 15 yard penalty. 

687
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,600
Can't do that, can't have fun. 
So let me get this straight. 

688
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,440
You are asking these grown men, 
these warriors who live in the 

689
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,920
weight room and who every time 
they step on a field, literally,

690
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:59,000
this is not hyperbole, literally
put their life on the line and 

691
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,520
they celebrate and you're trying
to take that out of the game. 

692
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,960
Like these guys, they, they 
deserve that. 

693
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,360
They've earned that right. 
And I don't mean demeaning the 

694
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,440
other team. 
I'm not talking about that. 

695
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,199
I'm not talking about being a 
bad sport. 

696
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:14,719
I'm not talking about that. 
Like spiking the ball in 

697
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,679
somebody's face when he's on the
ground. 

698
00:34:16,679 --> 00:34:19,280
If you beat him on a 25 yard 
pass, I nobody wants that. 

699
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:20,960
That's classless. 
I don't mean that. 

700
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:23,800
But even if you like, you drop 
the ball in the direction, 15 

701
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,800
yard penalty. 
I mean, come on, come on. 

702
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,800
And then, and this is also a 
subset of many different things,

703
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,440
the expanded schedule, it's just
going to keep coming. 

704
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,520
It's going to keep coming. 
And the more games you get, the 

705
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,679
less the quality of like the, 
the quality lessons. 

706
00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:45,159
I should say the quality 
lessons, because if there's 16 

707
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:49,560
games, every game matters 116, 
you know, you've, you've got, 

708
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:52,159
you've got an established 
parameter. 

709
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,639
And generally, you know, going 
back in the day and there's a 

710
00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:59,960
couple of outliers, The Jets in 
2015, but if you play 16 games 

711
00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:03,200
and you win 10, you go into the 
playoffs, You know, a lot of 

712
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,920
times you could be, you know, 
nine and seven and you could 

713
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,240
squeak in as a wild card. 
You can't really do it now, so 

714
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,600
you the more games you have and 
the more real estate you have to

715
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,160
figure things out, the less 
urgency there is to the first 

716
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,160
game and the second game and the
third game and really into the 

717
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,160
4th game, which encompasses 
obviously the entire month of 

718
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,320
September. 
So now it bleeds in. 

719
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,880
You get nothing during the 
summer except a bunch of names 

720
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,920
you don't know and you get 
really September, which is 

721
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,720
sloppy and just it it's a very 
different watch. 

722
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:41,520
So by expanding the schedule, I 
mean the residually what they've

723
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,640
done, they've just gone for for 
quantity over quality. 

724
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,600
They've increased injuries 
because based on the sheer odds,

725
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,440
the more times you step on a 
football field, the more chances

726
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,040
you have of getting hurt, 
period. 

727
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,960
Just like the more times you get
up to bat, the more times you 

728
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,200
have of getting it out. 
You know, the averages kind of 

729
00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:03,200
remain the averages. 
So it is just one big mess now. 

730
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,680
I can't stand it. 
Nobody's got the guts to say it 

731
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,280
because half the people that you
watch are on a network and all 

732
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,200
they do is kiss the ass of the 
sport or the network that 

733
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,480
they're on because they've got 
these monstrosity of broad 

734
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,160
broadcasting rights. 
God forbid you say anything 

735
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,680
about the commissioner. 
God forbid you have any sort of 

736
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,800
real biting criticism. 
Instead, it's always about 

737
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,040
legacies, and it's nonsensical 
regurgitation that is largely 

738
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,720
boring and largely played out. 
I mean, really is like, this is 

739
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:34,520
the stuff that matters because 
this is the stuff that impacts 

740
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,680
you and this is the stuff that 
impacts me. 

741
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,560
You got to have the guts to say 
it can't ignore it, you know, 

742
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,240
and I, I get it, I guess if 
you're on TV and you're making 

743
00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:47,760
millions and you got this lavish
lifestyle, like why would you 

744
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,080
bite the hand that feed you? 
Like it takes a it takes a 

745
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,840
strong broad set of shoulders to
do that, to have the fortitude 

746
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,360
and the guts to do that. 
But without name names, there's 

747
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,600
been times over the years where 
somebody has taken that route. 

748
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:02,680
Guess what? 
They weren't around very long 

749
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,760
and their peers know there's a 
line. 

750
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,600
If I cross that, I'm getting the
call from the network executive 

751
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,640
because that network executive 
is getting a call from somebody 

752
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,200
from the NFL, from the NBA, from
Major League Baseball. 

753
00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:17,960
It is what it is. 
Everybody's in cahoots. 

754
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:23,920
And as time goes on, we become 
accepting of it and we 

755
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,760
shouldn't. 
Now, I wish I had a great 

756
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:28,480
solution. 
Why? 

757
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,800
I mean, I do. 
You're not going to like it. 

758
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,360
Don't watch. 
I mean, but why penalize 

759
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,240
yourself here? 
And I really believe like, it 

760
00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:37,040
really should be boiled down to 
a simple question. 

761
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,360
Do you? 
I don't want you guys to text 

762
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,360
this. 
I want you to answer this. 

763
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,560
You can expand on it a little 
bit. 

764
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,720
Do you really feel about the 
like the way you used used to 

765
00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:49,640
feel about the NFL? 
Do you really, truly feel that 

766
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:54,800
way now? 
Do you or do you maybe convince 

767
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,080
yourself that you do because you
were programmed to feel that way

768
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,520
for so long? 
And even if you were to look in 

769
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,000
the mirror and, you know, be 
introspective, you know, you 

770
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,760
know, the answer is not quite 
the same that it used to be, but

771
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,040
you just kind of you're along 
for the ride and you're a 

772
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,680
sucker. 
All right, let me get this 

773
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:11,800
subscription. 
Sure. 

774
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:12,960
All right. 
Jerseys. 

775
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,320
How much? 
190 bucks now? 

776
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,000
OK, Parking's 100 bucks. 
Sure. 

777
00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:20,040
A hot dog, A beer is 18 bucks. 
That's a little expensive, but 

778
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,560
OK, I want a beer. 
Here you go. 

779
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,520
Like if you don't resist it, you
know they're just going to keep 

780
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,080
doing it, keep bending everybody
over. 

781
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,280
That's it. 
That is it. 

782
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,560
Now, I also understand that it's
all relative. 

783
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,760
That's why I said before about 
like where you are in life. 

784
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,960
Like when I woke up, I had a 
tradition. 

785
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,640
God, I love this too. 
This is how long ago it was. 

786
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,360
Remember when I think it was 
edge, like the shaving cream 

787
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,560
they used to come up with those 
seasoned in reviews like the VHS

788
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,960
tapes And the three years I had 
season tickets to The Jets 

789
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,320
coincide with Parcells, right? 
I would wake up and I would slap

790
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,600
that in the VHS and I was still 
living at home two of those 

791
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,920
years. 
And then I had my first 

792
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:06,080
apartment out of college, right?
And I would put it in and I 

793
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,640
mean, I would have my Corbett 
jersey. 

794
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,840
Like I felt like I was going to 
play a game. 

795
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,480
Like I the energy that I had 
pulsating through my body. 

796
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,000
Yeah, I was also a lot younger. 
I get it. 

797
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,960
The Jets were good with parcel. 
I get it, but it just it felt 

798
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,200
different. 
It wasn't divisive. 

799
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,360
You know it it when it was 
polarizing, it was polarizing 

800
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,120
for the right stuff, not all 
this other again, ancillary 

801
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,280
stuff that just strips away at 
the enjoyment. 

802
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,360
Like each year guy think about 
take a foot. 

803
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:38,760
I wish I had a football. 
I'd actually grab it. 

804
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,600
I have I got a basketball, take 
a football and put it on a 

805
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,400
conveyor belt right. 
This is now the factory of the 

806
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,320
NFL and conveyor belt, you know,
just obviously just churns 

807
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:49,840
along. 
And whatever product you're 

808
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,360
making, you know as it gets to 
certain points, whether it's 

809
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,320
stamping the logo, signing the 
commissioner's name, doing the 

810
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,080
laces, putting the leather on 
whatever the conveyor belt's 

811
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,200
doing along the conveyor belt 
route. 

812
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,080
They are building the football. 
What the conveyor belt now 

813
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:09,880
represents is the deconstruction
of football for you and me, the 

814
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,040
football fan. 
Because every year, right as 

815
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,520
that football just slowly goes 
along that conveyor belt, 

816
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:19,560
instead of adding something to 
the ball, just slicing off a 

817
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,640
little piece of the ball before,
you know, it's going to look 

818
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,920
like a tennis ball, like a golf 
ball, because it's certainly not

819
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,280
the same size that it used to 
be. 

820
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,080
You know, So think of, think 
about and when I tell you I did 

821
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,440
not even give much of these read
like the, you know, I love doing

822
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,360
research, but I didn't really 
have to do a ton for this. 

823
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:38,720
I just sat in my office last 
night and I finished it this 

824
00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:43,240
morning and I constructed a list
of things that Rodger Goodell 

825
00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:47,680
has done that has helped really 
destroy the sanctity of the game

826
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,120
of football. 
The officiating week to week 

827
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,280
issue hasn't solved it yet. 
The constant rules changes 

828
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,760
hasn't solved it yet. 
The overall dilution of the 

829
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:01,280
product again, you know, into 
September, September largely 

830
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,400
pretty much what August used to 
be succumbing to corporate 

831
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:09,880
greed, overall fan alienation, 
broadcast fragmentation, the 

832
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,400
sanitization and the 
homogenization words today and 

833
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,320
homogenization of the of the 
league of the product. 

834
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,320
That's very evident. 
I already laid it out for you. 

835
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,520
The expanded schedule, more 
injuries, less importance. 

836
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,040
Like they've just, they've, 
they've, they've basically done 

837
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:31,960
something that I really thought 
was impossible to do and that is

838
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,360
make football less enjoyable. 
That's what they've done. 

839
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,240
It's like a change. 
It's not going to reverse 

840
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:40,440
itself. 
What do you think? 

841
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,160
So if I paid 100 bucks, I think 
that was in November to park at 

842
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,200
MetLife, what do you think it 
would have paid in in five years

843
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,840
or three years or, you know, I'm
not going to pay 80. 

844
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,200
It's not going to go backwards. 
Now it's 120. 

845
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,880
Now it's 150. 
Before you know it, 200 is going

846
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,720
to represent 100 and all the 
other prices are going to keep 

847
00:41:57,720 --> 00:42:00,800
getting jacked up. 
The merch, the food, the beer, 

848
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,040
you name it, the programs, 
whatever you want, up, up, up, 

849
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,840
up, up. 
And it is. 

850
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:11,680
It's less about, you know, I'm 
going to give you an example. 

851
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:12,720
I don't know if it's going to 
make sense. 

852
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:14,080
It just kind of popped into my 
mind. 

853
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,520
I love, I think you guys are 
like this too, if you're a 

854
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,000
wrestling fan. 
So when Vince McMahon bought out

855
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,080
the territories, right. 
And I love watching the stuff on

856
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,840
YouTube. 
I, I do it all the time, 

857
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,960
probably too much. 
I love the when you have the 

858
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:35,080
shoot interviews and the old 
school guys and when they really

859
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,760
lift up the curtain, you know, I
started watching in the 80s, not

860
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,840
the 70s. 
So for me, the 80s, but even 

861
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,000
just historically to kind of 
connect the dots before I 

862
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,080
started watching like Bruno, 
Superstar, Billy Graham, Pedro 

863
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,480
Morales, those guys back with of
course, the champion for a long 

864
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,880
time, they were largely house 
shows, right? 

865
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,640
And you could actually go, I 
know that this isn't practical. 

866
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,320
I'm not even I'm not clamoring 
for this. 

867
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:57,360
I know it's ever going to 
happen. 

868
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,560
But I want you to see where 
where we've gone and then 

869
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,040
correlate it back to football in
a moment. 

870
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:06,160
So there was a point from about 
70 whatever till right up till 

871
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:11,080
WrestleMania, WrestleMania 1, 
where you go to any Catholic 

872
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,640
parish in Brooklyn or Queens, 
right? 

873
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,160
And Andre the Giant was showing 
up and Bruno was showing up and 

874
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,080
Jimmy snooker was showing up And
you know, all these guys were 

875
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,840
showing up and they were right, 
John Studd, they were wrestling,

876
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:28,520
right? 
So to me, the the those small 

877
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,280
shows, couple of 100 people, 
right? 

878
00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:33,520
And then eventually with Vince 
buying out the territories and 

879
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,000
the N.W.A and the regional 
Memphis and the AWA, like, I do 

880
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,200
love this stuff, love getting in
the weeds on this, right? 

881
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,360
That eventually went away. 
And look at the monstrosity that

882
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,600
WWE has become. 
Massive success. 

883
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,600
And in a lot of ways, back in 
the day, whether it was at the 

884
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,280
Meadowlands or Chase Stadium, 
obviously Yankee Stadium, Yale 

885
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,680
Bowl, back and back, back, back 
in the day for the Giants, those

886
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,560
football crowds. 
I mean, same with the other 

887
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,200
sports too, but I'm just going 
to stick with football here. 

888
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,640
Those football crowds were kind 
of like the house shows, you 

889
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,760
know, up in Poughkeepsie where 
they would film a lot, you know,

890
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:16,840
WWF back in the day, or, you 
know, Saint Rose CYO or Saint 

891
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,320
Tom's and Bensonhurst or Saint 
Thomas Aquinas and Flatbush 

892
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,320
playing a lot of basketball 
there too, you know. 

893
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,520
So it's it. 
Think about the people that used

894
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:30,120
to go to those venues to support
the product and elevate the 

895
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,200
product and a lot of those 
people get chanted because they 

896
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,240
just can't afford it anymore. 
And that's what's happened in 

897
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:43,840
the NFL and all the sports here.
So I firmly believe that the 

898
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:49,800
only thing that's really saving 
the perception and like the need

899
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,480
for some people to still say all
the NF LS king and and it is in 

900
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,920
terms of money. 
I'm not saying it's not long ago

901
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,960
took over for Baseball America's
pastime. 

902
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,160
I get it. 
But like the only thing really 

903
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,560
keeping people from I think 
checking out more is gambling. 

904
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,040
Like, imagine if you couldn't 
gamble on football. 

905
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,320
Would you really watch the 
Thursday night game between the 

906
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,280
Titans and the Jaguars? 
Would you really watch that? 

907
00:45:15,720 --> 00:45:18,400
And you know, I mean gambling in
the sense of, you know, whether 

908
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,640
it's parlays reverses like real 
money, but also fantasy 

909
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,080
football, all right, which is 
fun. 

910
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,120
And I know other sports have 
fantasy fantasy leagues for 

911
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,560
sure, day-to-day props and all 
that stuff, right. 

912
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,040
But if you think about it, 
what's the most enjoyable 

913
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,120
fantasy draft that you do with 
your buddies? 

914
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,560
What's the football 1? 
It's got the most energy. 

915
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,960
Now. 
I did a fantasy baseball one 

916
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,520
with about 9 or 10 guys at to 
this day, some of my best 

917
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,440
friends in the world. 
I mean, couple of guys at my 

918
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,240
wedding, like my core, some of 
my real true core friends. 

919
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,920
And then I just, you know what 
it was like and I would just go,

920
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,040
and I've said this before, 
baseball, right? 

921
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,080
And we would do it, you know, 
right around Saint Patty's Day. 

922
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,760
They would, I appreciate always 
work around my Saint John 

923
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,880
schedule. 
And you'd go there and we'd have

924
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,080
the whole house to ourselves, 
you know, no wives, no kids, 

925
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,160
everybody out. 
And you draft and, you know, 

926
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,360
you, you bang back beers and you
catch up because we've all been 

927
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,400
holed up in the winter. 
And it was a chance. 

928
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:16,880
For me, it was more of a social 
thing. 

929
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,240
Like I took the baseball draft 
serious. 

930
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,280
But once the season started, as 
much as I love baseball, I had 

931
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,360
no interest in hitting waiver 
wires for relief pitchers. 

932
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,200
And while like it's just. 
And every year choked like I was

933
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,760
the guy who did it for a living 
and who played baseball was the 

934
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,080
worst fantasy baseball player in
the entire group. 

935
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,760
Like without I I want it one 
year, but that was pretty much 

936
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,840
by accident. 
I mean, every year, last place, 

937
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,200
second to last place just handed
over money. 

938
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,000
And then the entry fee, I got up
to like 6-7 hundred bucks. 

939
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,480
And and not that I'm cheap, but 
I'm like, I don't even really 

940
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,560
enjoy doing it. 
But fantasy football's 

941
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,360
different, you know. 
And yeah, you can have a fantasy

942
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,360
basketball draft, but you 
probably can do it online. 

943
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,800
Like the thing about football 
that keeps football elevated 

944
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:05,640
really is that it's a tight knit
community and it's it's really, 

945
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:08,920
it's best in groups. 
Goodell didn't create that. 

946
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,560
Like that's not a Rodger Goodell
thing. 

947
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,920
So they're just kind of lucky at
Fabian Concepts. 

948
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,040
Shane, what's up? 
Shane, did you see this year's 

949
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,880
new Super Bowl merch? 
That's just the tip of the 

950
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,400
iceberg with corporate greed. 
Yeah, I so thank you for that, 

951
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:21,200
Fabian. 
I appreciate it. 

952
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,440
I saw some of that stuff on, 
well, all over social media and 

953
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,040
I know that a lot of fans were 
pissed off. 

954
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,880
I I guess it's Fanatics and I 
didn't, I think I saw some like 

955
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,280
black jerseys and, and like 
white jerseys. 

956
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,720
I, I don't, I don't know. 
I mean, I've been to a lot of 

957
00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:38,240
Super Bowls even before Fanatics
took over. 

958
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,080
And like a lot of the merch was 
kind of wack, kind of corny. 

959
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,400
I don't know, like I would, I 
would and I would always come 

960
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,080
home with something for my kids 
and my wife. 

961
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,520
As a matter of fact, my daughter
was wearing because I got it was

962
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,800
too big for years ago, less 
Super Bowl that I was at in 

963
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,440
Miami. 
I brought her this. 

964
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,840
It's like AI don't know. 
It's like a Super Bowl 90 and 

965
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,280
she was probably 3 and now she's
9. 

966
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,000
So it finally fits her and she 
still wears it. 

967
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,520
I would get like my son a zip 
up, get something from my wife 

968
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,920
and I would always come back 
that Saturday because I wanted 

969
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,680
to watch the game here with my 
family. 

970
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,800
I always come back so we could 
always wear some Super Bowl 

971
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,440
merch, watching the game, eating
pizza, whatever we're doing. 

972
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,200
And I I'm like, I didn't really 
like the gear. 

973
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,280
Maybe I'd get something for the 
golf course at some point, like 

974
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,120
a zip up or a nice golf shirt 
that I thought I would want when

975
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,320
the weather, when the weather 
changed. 

976
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,800
But yeah, I mean, for the most 
part, the the merchandise at the

977
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,360
Super Bowl is just corny. 
But I did see that. 

978
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,800
I did see there was additional 
heat to stick with wrestling 

979
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,160
towards some of the companies 
that produce that stuff. 

980
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,880
But I I don't, I don't really 
know why. 

981
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,360
I just don't think it looked 
good. 

982
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,760
I think that's the general 
consensus from people who 

983
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,160
complained about it at all. 
Right. 

984
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,440
You know what? 
You going to read this one? 

985
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,720
I told anytime there's a name 
and there's like, it's tough to 

986
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:48,240
decipher. 
Boy Goodell, Come on. 

987
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:53,200
A little soprano at Boy Goodell.
Right, he's got the Annunciation

988
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,160
too. 
He's got the hands. 

989
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,480
He's got the DeVito. 
Look at him come and correct 

990
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:57,000
that. 
A boy. 

991
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,800
Say it once more before I read. 
It go ahead. 

992
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,920
Woof, nice. 
That is a classy young man right

993
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,120
there, folks. 
He's got some. 

994
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,800
He's got some culture in them 
all right from New Haven. 

995
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,440
Been scraping money for the G 
Men season tickets since 1974. 

996
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,320
God bless you man. 
They built that new dump and and

997
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,760
the ticket wait list went from 
30 years to zero. 

998
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,440
They made us panic and shook me 
down for 40,000 and I still pay 

999
00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:25,880
the power of the NFL. 
All right, I get it. 

1000
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,440
The PS: LSI remember when that 
first dropped at MetLife Jet 

1001
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,000
fans, 'cause I was on 10:50 at 
that point. 

1002
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,080
Thank you. 
You can get rid of that, Jay, 

1003
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,480
because that dropped when the 
new stadium opened and like PS: 

1004
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,640
Li mean it was largely A 
curveball. 

1005
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,120
Like you own it and people like,
oh, what an investment. 

1006
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,880
You owe nothing, right? 
So you basically own the right 

1007
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:45,760
to just hemorrhage Money is what
you own. 

1008
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,880
You own a massive bill. 
Congrats, you are you are the 

1009
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,640
proud owner of $40,000 bill. 
Come on down. 

1010
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,320
What do you get to see? 
Awful football. 

1011
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,480
Cut that check. 
But I'll tell you, you don't 

1012
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:00,840
have to. 
You don't have to cut the check.

1013
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,480
I'm not telling you what to do. 
I'm just merely pointing out if 

1014
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,440
you can't do it or you don't 
want to do it, or even if you 

1015
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,040
can do it and you don't feel 
like you're getting a return on 

1016
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,440
the investment, well, you could 
bail now. 

1017
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,080
The difference between the jet, 
the giant fan right now is that 

1018
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,080
the giant fans, they're 
energized. 

1019
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,400
You got John Horrible coming in.
I mean, Lord knows what The Jets

1020
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:22,800
are going to be. 
And you know, I like mood, you 

1021
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:23,880
know, I'm pumped up for the 
draft. 

1022
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,200
And I do think that, you know, 
Glenn could figure it out with 

1023
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,720
Reich and hopefully this works 
out, blah, blah, blah. 

1024
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,480
But like there's a little bit of
a different, I would think 

1025
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,400
certainly energy and willingness
to commit to the next 3-4 five 

1026
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,160
years to the Giants than there 
is for The Jets. 

1027
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,040
Now, let me also be clear about 
this. 

1028
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,160
I don't want you guys to think I
do a lot of local content. 

1029
00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:45,680
That's how that's how I really 
buttered a lot of my bread 

1030
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,800
professionally, But I've also 
worked in San Francisco, I've 

1031
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,640
worked in Detroit and I'm a 
national sports guy too. 

1032
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,160
I did a national show for 10 
years. 

1033
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,440
So this is not just local 
content, but I want to make sure

1034
00:50:56,720 --> 00:50:59,480
that I'm not jaded here. 
All right, So outside of the 

1035
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:04,040
Harbaugh hire and outside of 
the, you know, nine wins and you

1036
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,240
know, Danny Jones and the Giants
winning a role playoff game in 

1037
00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:08,280
Minnesota couple years. 
Brian Naples first year. 

1038
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,720
The the the word that I it's not
even anger, really. 

1039
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:14,160
With The Jets and the Giants 
fans. 

1040
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:18,080
It's become largely apathetic. 
Now that apathy has obviously 

1041
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,240
eroded for the Giant fan. 
They're pumped up. 

1042
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,840
The Giants will be back. 
And with the Giants are good, 

1043
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,320
the NF LS better. 
Like, you know, trust me, as 

1044
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,800
much as I am a Jets fan, even I 
know like, the NFL doesn't need 

1045
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,560
The Jets for anything. 
They just need them to fill out 

1046
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,040
a schedule. 
Yeah, All right. 

1047
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,000
You want to tell me when The 
Jets are good? 

1048
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,920
Whenever the hell that is over 
my life, you're going to get a 

1049
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,600
higher rating, all right? 
But there's probably, you know, 

1050
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,840
6535% Giant fans anyway. 
So are you going to really get 

1051
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,400
that massive national pop, 
unlike the Yankees, who are 

1052
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,560
probably 6040 or or 6535 Yankee 
fans versus Mets fans? 

1053
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,800
Probably not. 
But I'm sure there's a bit of a 

1054
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,800
financial uptick when The Jets 
are good. 

1055
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,880
Like like any big market, of 
course. 

1056
00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:03,560
However, I really think that 
this is not just a local, 

1057
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,640
regional thing. 
I think what I'm saying has 

1058
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,080
permeated every fan base in 
America. 

1059
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,840
Now, I also understand the 
timing matters here. 

1060
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,480
Like, think about the 
disgruntled, dischanted, 

1061
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,920
disenchanted Bears fans for 
years, right? 

1062
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,560
No good quarterbacks, you know, 
going through coaches fumbling 

1063
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,360
their way around getting their 
head kicked in, you know, by the

1064
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,080
Vikings, by the Packers. 
Good division, All right, We 

1065
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:29,160
know that. 
Well, the Bears are going to be 

1066
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,040
good for a while. 
You would have Caleb. 

1067
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,600
Caleb Williams is a problem. 
I mean, he made some, he made 

1068
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,160
some of the best throws in the 
playoffs. 

1069
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,280
A couple rolled out to his left 
off 1 foot against the grain, 

1070
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,880
which I mean with three or four 
guys bracketing his intended 

1071
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,720
target that I don't even know if
Mahomes is making that that 

1072
00:52:47,720 --> 00:52:50,880
throw on his best day like that 
was a special unique throw. 

1073
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,480
So I'm not talking about the 
Bear fan now, I'm not talking 

1074
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,680
about the Lion fan pre 
renaissance. 

1075
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,120
I know they had a bad year this 
year, but you know, pre 

1076
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,080
renaissance with Campbell. 
I'm talking about the Lion fans 

1077
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,640
when I worked in Detroit and 
they drafted Joey Harrington a 

1078
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,760
million years ago and Marty 
Mortingwig was the coach and 

1079
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,600
Wayne Fonts and all the drops we
play on the radio when they were

1080
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,800
still at the Silverdome. 
Like Mayans fans were never 

1081
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:19,320
apathetic, but they're I think 
that their days were were their 

1082
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,760
days were still enjoyable 
because it was about football 

1083
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,360
still again, the tailgate and 
the tradition. 

1084
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,800
I think that even that's been 
stripped away. 

1085
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,800
And I'm going to ask you 
straight up, if you're not 

1086
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,800
gambling, if you're not gambling
and you're not going to the 

1087
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,480
games, and very small percentage
of viewers and consumers of the 

1088
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,840
sport actually go to the games, 
if you think about it. 

1089
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,280
I mean, I'll take MetLife, for 
example, but it's not empty, 

1090
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,160
let's say 80,000 potential 
seats. 

1091
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,560
I mean, you take any game for 
The Jets or the Giants, 

1092
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:55,440
Patriots, Bills, Dolphins, when 
The Jets are bad, there's 3040 

1093
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,480
thousand fans of the other team.
Week one of the Aaron Glennier 

1094
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,440
of this year against the 
Steelers. 

1095
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,440
The Steelers had 40,000 fans and
the Giants heard of you into 

1096
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,880
this either Dallas Cowboy fans 
infiltrate the building, take it

1097
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,080
over. 
They don't Eagle fans make 

1098
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,200
themselves comfortable. 
Even the Commanders, not quite 

1099
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,720
as big as the other ones, but 
you know, they've got a, a, a 

1100
00:54:15,720 --> 00:54:19,640
national brand that, that that's
eroded a bit for sure over the 

1101
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,920
years. 
But still old Redskin fans 

1102
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,680
command their fans. 
They'll still go watch their 

1103
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,200
team play. 
So if there's just say 40,000 

1104
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:32,520
Jet fans at MetLife or 50,000 
Giant fans at MetLife during 

1105
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,880
any, say, Week 7 game, how many 
people that are Jet fans or 

1106
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,880
Giant fans do you think are 
watching on TV? 

1107
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,400
Hundreds upon hundreds of 
thousands. 

1108
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:46,200
So it's really not about like 
the game experience impacts very

1109
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,640
few of you. 
It's really about again, the 

1110
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,240
commercialization of the sport, 
the globalization of the sport, 

1111
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,320
which I understand 
pragmatically, it's business, 

1112
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,520
but I really push back on 
because I don't think it's fair 

1113
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,640
to us. 
I mean, I got a question for 

1114
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,920
everybody. 
Why don't other countries give 

1115
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,960
us their sports? 
I why I got news for you. 

1116
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,800
I don't want their sports and I 
don't need their sports. 

1117
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,240
Why do we feel this incessant 
need? 

1118
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:12,720
I understand the United States 
world power. 

1119
00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:14,280
I understand our place in the 
world. 

1120
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,840
I always have and I always will 
and I respect that, right? 

1121
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,680
But it doesn't mean you just 
have to take what we've what we 

1122
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,080
built. 
And then here you go. 

1123
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:28,040
He and I love Australia. 
He go Australia, he go Brazil. 

1124
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,440
He go Germany. 
He go Mexico. 

1125
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,760
He go London. 
I I I really don't know what 

1126
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,760
we're doing anymore. 
I don't. 

1127
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,560
I don't. 
Hey, Jay, pop yourself in there.

1128
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,680
J Rod, gotta ask you something. 
What's up? 

1129
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,600
So you're interesting. 
You're obviously a lot younger 

1130
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,920
than me. 
Do you the and you're just 

1131
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,800
starting up, so you're just, 
you're just getting a few bucks 

1132
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,960
in your pocket, I guess. 
So money matters like it did for

1133
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,560
me when I was your age. 
And oh, I mean money always 

1134
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,120
matters, but especially when 
you're young and broke. 

1135
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:02,760
Do you feel whatever. 
And I don't mean just when the 

1136
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,000
Patriots were good, whatever the
apex of your fandom, Like that 

1137
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,800
energy about the NFL, what you 
felt, maybe you still feel. 

1138
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,200
I'm not trying to convince you 
one way or the other. 

1139
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,760
Has it dissipated at all? 
Yeah, I mean, certainly since I 

1140
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,760
was a kid, maybe this is just 
moving out, being in less of 

1141
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,240
like a family environment where,
you know, I'm around my dad, I'm

1142
00:56:21,240 --> 00:56:24,120
around my brother, we're all 
together, we're all watching the

1143
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,600
games together, you know, on a 
weekly basis. 

1144
00:56:27,720 --> 00:56:29,920
So I'd say it's certainly 
diminished since then. 

1145
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:35,680
But I guess I have, I have less 
of A and maybe this is just, you

1146
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,560
know, my time is spread more in 
other things, you know, work, 

1147
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,880
doing other stuff like that. 
And so there's not that burning 

1148
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,680
desire to sit down on a Sunday 
and, you know, watch every game 

1149
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,760
unless you know, it's a great 
match up. 

1150
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,160
I'm not going to sit down every 
Sunday and watch every game. 

1151
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,520
But let's say I've got a buddy 
who's a Giants fan or a Jets 

1152
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,320
fan. 
OK, we're going to, you know, 

1153
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:59,640
sit down, watch that game. 
If there's a Eagles kind of 

1154
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,480
game, I'll watch, you know, 
Pat's Eagles. 

1155
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,400
So there's really got to be a 
storyline behind it to kind of 

1156
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,480
get me into it. 
I'm not just going to, you know,

1157
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,760
every Sunday take a seat and and
put it on. 

1158
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:10,600
I got you. 
So. 

1159
00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:12,320
So you're not you're not a 
prisoner like you. 

1160
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,280
OK. 
I respect that. 

1161
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:15,960
Yeah. 
I mean, thank you for that, Jay.

1162
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,520
Rod, I watch. 
I'll give you an example. 

1163
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,040
Like, let's say September, 
right? 

1164
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,480
Obviously September. 
I'm watching Yanks, I'm watching

1165
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,480
Mets. 
And then something pops up and 

1166
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,360
it's a Thursday night game. 
And it's not, it's not an 

1167
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:29,280
incredibly marquee game, but 
it's on a streaming service now 

1168
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,120
for me to do the and the Yankees
are on yes. 

1169
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,760
And and the Mets are on S&Y for 
me to do the dance of going back

1170
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,040
and forth with different 
remotes. 

1171
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,040
I'm not doing it like that's my 
protest unless it's a unless 

1172
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,520
it's a game of massive magnitude
like a Mahomes or a great 

1173
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:45,560
quarterback that I really want 
to watch or, you know, a fantasy

1174
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,160
element. 
Maybe I'll go out of my way to 

1175
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:51,720
do it, but if if I have a a 
fairly benign level of interest 

1176
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:55,680
in the game, like if I'm not 
sucked in for a storyline, I'm 

1177
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,440
not putting the game on. 
Yeah, well, I mean, back and 

1178
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:02,280
forth what's and also for me now
I just feel like, you know, I 

1179
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:06,760
mean, I've got a like if it's a 
choice between even an NBA game 

1180
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,440
on a Sunday night, it it could 
be a random NBA game. 

1181
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,680
It could be Hornets, Celtics, 
Hornets. 

1182
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:12,720
What? 
I don't care. 

1183
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,440
I might put that game on over 
the NFL just because I'm kind of

1184
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,840
more drawn into that, more drawn
into the storylines that are 

1185
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,520
going on into the NBA and the 
product that that's become. 

1186
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,640
Hey, by the way, Speaking of the
NBA, did you see that fight last

1187
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,360
night with the Pistons? 
And the we were watching the 

1188
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,040
game. 
It was crazy. 

1189
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,880
Oh my God. 
I mean, you know, Jalen Dern 

1190
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,600
kind of smushed Diabate's face 
right there. 

1191
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:35,880
He did. 
It was kind of. 

1192
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,920
I mean, he definitely did. 
My thing is, I don't tell me if 

1193
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,200
you've ever seen this, like in 
your, you know, kind of lifetime

1194
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,720
watching the league. 
Have you ever seen a punch 

1195
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,280
connect in NBA history? 
Hell, yeah. 

1196
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:49,720
Really. 
I have. 

1197
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:50,880
I have. 
Yeah. 

1198
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,080
Go. 
I've seen Larry Bird connect on 

1199
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,960
a few. 
I've seen. 

1200
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,960
What was his name? 
Reed. 

1201
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:00,240
Why am I forgetting his last 
name? 

1202
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:01,400
Jr. 
Reed. 

1203
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,480
Jr. 
Reed played in North Carolina 

1204
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,480
when he was with the Spurs. 
And I think you maybe you can 

1205
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,360
look this up real quick. 
There was he was under the boys.

1206
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,080
He's like a forward, like a a 
burly. 

1207
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,720
Not a great play, good in 
college and first round pick for

1208
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,240
sure good NBA player, but 
nothing more than that. 

1209
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,240
But strong and big and burly and
tough, right? 

1210
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,520
And there was going for a 
rebound. 

1211
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:21,720
I mean, this was dirty as it 
gets. 

1212
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:25,640
This was in the 90s for sure. 
Just double check the details 

1213
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,760
when you can after. 
I mean. 

1214
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:33,120
He's boxing, he's boxing 
somebody out and and like he's 

1215
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:37,960
he's as he's boxing out, he just
throws A vicious hook and he 

1216
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:39,680
clipped somebody like right in 
the face. 

1217
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,800
No, there's absolutely, Oh my 
gosh, see that? 

1218
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,800
Yeah, he clipped AC Green. 
I think he knocked his. 

1219
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:46,880
Tooth out. 
Yeah. 

1220
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,200
Yeah. 
Oh my gosh. 

1221
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:48,920
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1222
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:50,120
There, of course. 
Rudy. 

1223
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:51,360
Tom Jonovich. 
I read the book. 

1224
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,120
Yeah. 
That, that one's wild. 

1225
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,840
That was huge. 
I remember Chris Childs. 

1226
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,040
I remember I was on the air when
this happened. 

1227
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,880
I was working at this a matter 
of fact. 

1228
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:03,400
It was just I'm going to get it 
back up on the screen. 

1229
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,320
One of my early jobs, I was at 
the Sports Fan Radio network, 

1230
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,600
right? 
It was national network and it 

1231
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:14,800
was my second job, all right. 
And like Scott Pharrell was 

1232
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,720
there, the fabulous sports babe,
Jim Rome, Big names especially. 

1233
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:22,040
I mean huge names now but it 
mass the biggest names then. 

1234
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,800
And I'm doing like Saturday and 
Sunday show and I'm living in 

1235
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,480
Vegas, which was wild. 
My God. 

1236
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,920
And anyway, I'm doing updates 
during the week and I'm doing a 

1237
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,920
5 hour solo talk show on 
Saturday and Sunday. 

1238
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,280
Just carving, you know, carving 
out space and, and doing my 

1239
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,240
thing. 
And I'm on the air during an 

1240
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,240
update. 
And we probably had about 150 

1241
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,480
affiliates across the country. 
It's a pretty big network. 

1242
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:47,960
It's before ESPN Radio was born.
So it was the preeminent 

1243
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,320
national network. 
So Long story short, I'm in the 

1244
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:51,400
middle of delivering this 
update. 

1245
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,840
Lord knows what I'm saying. 
And Chris Childs you can look 

1246
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:56,560
at. 
Look at this too. 

1247
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:00,000
Chris Childs and Kobe Bryant's a
Sunday game on NBC. 

1248
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,840
Like Bill Walton, Snapper Jones,
like that crew, they square up 

1249
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,120
and I don't think Kobe thought 
Chris was coming with the one 

1250
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,120
two piece. 
He clocked them twice. 

1251
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,160
Look it up on wow. 
And he got him clipped him on 

1252
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:12,840
the chin. 
Oh yeah, first child. 

1253
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:14,800
See that? 
Yeah. 

1254
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,000
It's a staple shop. 
It was in LA. 

1255
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,440
I feel like maybe I've seen like
a highlight of that one before, 

1256
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,000
but Dang. 
Yeah, so the answer is yes. 

1257
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,320
Yes, the answer. 
Certainly has happened. 

1258
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,960
The answer, I mean, I don't know
if you want to get to this now, 

1259
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,960
but there's some great WWE 
questions. 

1260
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,760
OK, do me a favor. 
I want to I want to do this 

1261
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,320
because I mentioned something 
about sports fan. 

1262
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,040
I want to read this and then 
just pop up a few in succession 

1263
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:39,920
about the WWE. 
We'll get to it. 

1264
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,720
Good job at Rod Power seven. 
Look, look at J Rod. 

1265
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,160
I mean, you train him for two or
three days, you let him know 

1266
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:46,760
what we expect. 
You take the training wheels 

1267
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,600
off. 
He's a star at Rod Power 78 BT 

1268
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,480
We need some stories from your 
time with the Sports Fan Radio 

1269
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,800
Network. 
I remember listening to it late 

1270
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,760
at night back in the day. 
That's yeah. 

1271
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,600
Oh my God, it was great. 
I mean, it really, that was a 

1272
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,680
very important stop in my 
career. 

1273
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,240
Number one was the national 
network and I was 20, whatever 

1274
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,680
the heck. 
I was young and I was only on 

1275
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,680
the air about eight or nine 
months. 

1276
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:10,920
That was my second job, as I 
said. 

1277
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,760
So I started in Allentown, PA 
for this little teeny tiny 

1278
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,120
station doing a morning show, 
right? 

1279
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:19,920
And I think after us was Jim 
Rome there. 

1280
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,680
There was a while everywhere I 
went, Jim Rome was on where I 

1281
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,200
was, right where I was, where 
Jim was because he obviously, 

1282
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,840
you know, the star. 
Anyway, I'm doing like a morning

1283
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,120
show from 6 to 10 and we're on 
the air about 8 months. 

1284
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,280
Team. 
We had one salesperson tiny, 

1285
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:37,160
tiny station and they wind up 
selling the station for about 

1286
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,720
$2,000,000. 
They reformat it to salsa music.

1287
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,880
I'm out of a job right again, 
Long story short, I get hired in

1288
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:45,480
Vegas and I go out to Las Vegas,
right? 

1289
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,360
This is this will tell you that 
I'll never I can't believe that 

1290
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:53,760
I actually did this, but I did 
this So back then to listen to 

1291
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,800
it like there's no serious 
there's no apps. 

1292
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:01,720
So the way to listen to the 
sports fan Radio network was in 

1293
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,920
your town. 
And that's ultimately how I got 

1294
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,000
my Detroit because I went to 
Detroit after that. 

1295
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:10,320
So and I was on Detroit and 
Denver, LA, like really big 

1296
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:15,480
market Chicago. 
And I was I'm doing, I'm doing 

1297
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,280
the updates and the only way 
that you can listen to it was 

1298
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,400
like you had a like it was, I 
don't know, sportsradio.com. 

1299
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,840
I whatever the website was and 
you would listen to it on the 

1300
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,120
computer, right? 
So I had all my buddies back in 

1301
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,400
Brooklyn, of course, my mom and 
dad listening to it. 

1302
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,240
And my buddy Tommy, who was my 
best friend growing up, lived a 

1303
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,680
couple of houses down. 
Never forget this true story, 

1304
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,760
man. 
And I'm reading the golf 

1305
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,240
leaderboard and his name is, 
I'll call him his nickname was 

1306
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,240
Ratman, right? 
That was last name was sounding 

1307
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,680
like, like rat. 
So Ratman, great guy, good 

1308
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,120
athlete, great dude, great 
family, love him. 

1309
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,760
And he's listening. 
And he couldn't even text me. 

1310
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,840
So I think he called me or he 
emailed me. 

1311
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:55,240
He's like, dude, I'm listening, 
right? 

1312
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:56,600
I'm like, all right, I'm like, 
I'm going to mess around. 

1313
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,440
So I'm finishing up the update. 
You know, Knicks or Lakers, 

1314
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,400
blah, blah, blah. 
This guy signs free agency. 

1315
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,120
All right, take a look at the 
the Houston Shell Open. 

1316
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,720
Tiger Woods set the pace -17 
fired a 63 today. 

1317
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,760
Phil Mickelson, BJ Singh, you 
know, David Duvall in the hunt, 

1318
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,240
blah, blah, blah. 
And then I throw him, I throw 

1319
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,560
his name onto the leaderboard. 
I'm like and Tommy Ratman making

1320
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:22,360
a move as the as the rookie 
fires AA66 today to get the 

1321
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,760
first page of the leaderboard. 
I threw my I mean, he was my 

1322
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:29,000
best friend growing up. 
I threw in my friend's name on 

1323
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,520
the leaderboard like like he 
actually played the tournament. 

1324
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:34,880
What are you insane? 
Who the hell does that? 

1325
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,040
That was fun. 
All right, so that was that. 

1326
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,280
J Roddy got a couple of WWE ones
for me. 

1327
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,240
This is always fun stuff. 
You know I love this man. 

1328
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:49,120
Let's see, where'd it go? 
Top five wrestlers of all time. 

1329
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,360
I think it'd be fun if you threw
yours. 

1330
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,480
I'll throw mine. 
I'll throw some more modern 

1331
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,280
guys. 
You you can throw some. 

1332
01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,560
Well, they're good at the Yeah, 
back of the day. 

1333
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,880
What dinosaurs? 
I I mean, I don't know, you 

1334
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,120
might, you might have some more 
not much they're. 

1335
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:05,120
Old. 
They're pretty much old. 

1336
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,880
They're pretty much old. 
OK, so let me just give, let me 

1337
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,040
connect some dots here. 
I love the wrestling. 

1338
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,240
Everybody knows that. 
But the thing of like the 

1339
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:16,000
wrestlers that drew me in were 
the guys that were the best on 

1340
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:20,000
this thing. 
You if you could cut a promo, I 

1341
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,440
was a fan. 
Now if you had that, then if you

1342
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,360
had the in ring flair and all 
the other things which I'll get 

1343
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,520
into now. 
Now you you're in my top five. 

1344
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,520
So God, without really giving us
an even though I thought about 

1345
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:34,000
this, you know, in the past, but
as I construct my list, no order

1346
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:35,520
in the list. 
OK, so I'm going to start no 

1347
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,080
order. 
But listen, even I mean, you got

1348
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:41,360
Hulk Hogan was the man. 
I mean Hulk Hogan, especially 

1349
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,120
when he beat the Iron Cheek and 
you go back to where we were at 

1350
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,880
that point in in in our history 
and the volatility with with 

1351
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:51,840
that relationship, the hatred 
and the heat that, you know, 

1352
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,240
people like the Iron Cheek and 
Nikolai Volkov. 

1353
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:58,640
I mean, good God, Iran and and 
the USSR back then, like just 

1354
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:03,280
incalculable how real it felt. 
So you got a Hulk number 1. 

1355
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:04,720
He was all jacked. 
He had the best. 

1356
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,640
I love the song. 
I am a real American. 

1357
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,680
Come on, man. 
Now, he sucked as a wrestler. 

1358
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:12,760
All right, let me give you a 
couple of punches. 

1359
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:13,880
Let me throw you against the 
rope. 

1360
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,960
Let me hit you with that. 
Let me give you the late drop. 

1361
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,320
Let me pin you and then let me 
do this to the crowd. 

1362
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,360
Hulk Hogan's on the list for 
sure. 

1363
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,960
I loved, I absolutely love the 
Macho Man Randy Savage. 

1364
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:27,440
I loved him. 
And unlike Hulk, he was a 

1365
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,600
phenomenal worker. 
I love this. 

1366
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,720
Now, his song didn't have words,
but when you heard Dan, Dan, 

1367
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:37,800
Dan, Dan, it was like, wow. 
Then he had the sick get up, the

1368
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,960
shades, the wild hair. 
I didn't know this is a kid, but

1369
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:42,840
he totally coked up. 
And you all right? 

1370
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:44,000
Yeah. 
Yeah, my phone. 

1371
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,800
Just fell totally coked up in 
every interview. 

1372
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,880
His eyes are bulging. 
Then of course, Miss Elizabeth 

1373
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:51,320
enters the frame and you're 
like, wow. 

1374
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,040
I mean, just absolutely 
stunning. 

1375
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,840
She would wear the silver 
sequin, sequin stuff, dresses 

1376
01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:59,720
with heels. 
Just gorgeous. 

1377
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:05,320
And so Macho Man's on the list. 
Roddy Piper might actually be #1

1378
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,560
because the thing about Roddy 
Piper and it all started with 

1379
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:11,280
Pipers Pit, obviously with 
snooker with the coconut. 

1380
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:15,080
But Roddy could fight too. 
Like so you had brawls that 

1381
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:18,000
styles make fights, but he was 
also pretty good technically, 

1382
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,680
like doing doing homework and 
catching up on this stuff later 

1383
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:22,560
on in life. 
Like I've watched some of his 

1384
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,800
matches in was it the AWA or the
NWAI? 

1385
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,400
Think maybe both. 
But like the dog collar match 

1386
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:32,160
with Greg Valentine battles with
Ric Flair, like tech, because he

1387
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,720
was a boxer, he had some boxing 
experience so he could throw 

1388
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:36,760
hands. 
He was and then he got pretty 

1389
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,200
muscular when he started taking 
the juice. 

1390
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:43,520
But his the unpredictability 
with Roddy Piper, the smirk, the

1391
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,960
look, the bodyguard. 
Oh my God, Roddy Piper on the 

1392
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,120
list. 
So I got Hulk, I got Macho Man, 

1393
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:54,440
I got Roddy Piper. 
Another guy that I loved and he 

1394
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,680
too was a pretty good wrestler. 
Didn't have a good body though 

1395
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,240
at all. 
Like he I think he got into the 

1396
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,360
juice at one point. 
Then he looked a little better, 

1397
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,840
but never had one of these kick 
ass bodies. 

1398
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:09,360
Jake the Snake Roberts. 
Yeah, See, his pro, his promos 

1399
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,560
were different in this regard. 
You got a Hulk. 

1400
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:15,240
What you going to do, Macho Man?
Yeah, like you got these, these 

1401
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:18,160
high volume, eccentric and 
electric promos. 

1402
01:08:18,359 --> 01:08:21,399
Roddy Piper yelling, then you 
got, then he got the snake 

1403
01:08:21,399 --> 01:08:24,520
coming in sinister and he would 
bring it down. 

1404
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,040
Let me tell you something. 
Let me tell you something. 

1405
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,120
Hulk Hogan. 
Yeah, You know, as you got all 

1406
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,240
these Hulkamaniacs out there 
having your back, I got a little

1407
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:33,880
something in the bag for you. 
That's right. 

1408
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:37,080
And when Damien latches around 
that, you know, it would be. 

1409
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:41,080
It was dark, it was harmonic, it
was sinister, it felt real. 

1410
01:08:41,359 --> 01:08:45,720
The DDT was a great finish. 
His dad was a wrestler, so he 

1411
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:50,600
could wrestle #5I really did 
love Jimmy Snooker for a minute 

1412
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,240
early. 
I'll tell you the guy. 

1413
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:54,399
I want to give you someone 
somewhat modern. 

1414
01:08:54,399 --> 01:08:56,560
Jeez. 
I mean, The Rock was great, but 

1415
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,000
whatever, you know? 
Goldberg, a beast, you know? 

1416
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:03,680
I mean, so I thought when Shawn 
Michaels, even though he was a 

1417
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,720
pain in the ass in the locker 
room and everybody couldn't 

1418
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,399
stand them and he actually 
couldn't really fight. 

1419
01:09:08,399 --> 01:09:10,880
Like he got his ass kicked all 
the time in backstage and in 

1420
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,920
bars. 
But in terms of the show and the

1421
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:18,279
look and the arrogance and the 
technical like, to me, he was 

1422
01:09:18,279 --> 01:09:20,800
kind of like a Ricky Steamboat 
who was a really great wrestler 

1423
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,279
but was boring, couldn't cut a 
promo, had no flair. 

1424
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,960
I would probably throw Shawn 
Michaels on there as well. 

1425
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:31,920
So I'd look at Hulk, Snake, 
Macho, Shawn, that's probably my

1426
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:32,600
list. 
Who do you got? 

1427
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:37,000
Let me hear it #1 And what's 
interesting to me, I guess is 

1428
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:40,840
like, I feel like in the 20 tens
WWE, they have like a shift in 

1429
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:43,560
characters where they kind of 
just started doing a lot of like

1430
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:44,359
goofier. 
Oh. 

1431
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:49,279
God, like going, yeah, yeah. 
Like Santino, Horn, Swoggle, 

1432
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,279
those dudes. 
But I'm gonna go, all right. 

1433
01:09:52,279 --> 01:09:55,080
The guy who kind of got me into 
wrestling, I was probably like 

1434
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,480
8-9 years old at my buddy's 
place, was playing Mysterio. 

1435
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,320
Wow. 
I loved, I loved Rey Mysterio. 

1436
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:04,360
I mean, I don't think he was the
best talker, but I just think 

1437
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:09,080
the 619, the song, the moves, 
like it's just he was like the 

1438
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:12,120
perfect kid wrestler. 
Like he just he had you wanted 

1439
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:15,200
to jump off the couch on your 
hit some with a move. 

1440
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:20,280
So I love him. 
CM Punk is up there for me in my

1441
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:21,880
top five. 
Yeah, I got. 

1442
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:23,520
I respect. 
I never liked CM Punk. 

1443
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,080
Go ahead. 
I I was in, I guess I kind of 

1444
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:29,960
got into him like that 2011 
rivalry of him and Cena summer 

1445
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:33,480
slam love, like the cult of 
personality song. 

1446
01:10:33,480 --> 01:10:34,960
I mean, I guess I didn't really.
See. 

1447
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:38,920
Earlier Rear, but I just thought
he was like, I don't know, he 

1448
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:43,240
was a good like a Punk outlier 
in WWE. 

1449
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,280
Gotta throw Cena in there, 
obviously. 

1450
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:50,160
I mean, yeah, every era, like I 
was. 

1451
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:53,400
I guess I just remember as a kid
also just going back watching 

1452
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:57,240
like his rap era when he was 
like the whole thing. 

1453
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:02,520
But just great guy. 
And then my last. 

1454
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:06,600
No, my 4th, 4th. 
Yeah, 4th Mark Henry. 

1455
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,440
Like who the hell is Mark Henry?
I don't even know what that is. 

1456
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:13,040
All of pain. 
Oh my God, it was I don't want. 

1457
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:14,880
How does themes? 
It was like break his neck, 

1458
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,520
break his neck, break his back. 
It was like kind of similar to 

1459
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,880
our theme song. 
OK, well I like him. 

1460
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,880
Then he would just go. 
In and slam you and there's like

1461
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:27,560
1 WrestleMania Big Show. 
It was either him or Big Show or

1462
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,600
vice versa. 
He like they did the suplex onto

1463
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:34,920
the ring, the ring caved in and 
it kind of collapsed. 

1464
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:36,640
So that was like a Mark Henry 
moment. 

1465
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:37,880
And then you're. 
Like the undertaker? 

1466
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,560
Were you an undertaker? 
Guy I was an Undertaker guy but 

1467
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:44,040
I feel like I only saw maybe a 
few matches with him, like tag 

1468
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:47,360
team him and Kane and then the 
hell in a cell with. 

1469
01:11:47,440 --> 01:11:51,360
A Triple H. 
And I think Triple H would 

1470
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:55,720
probably be my last guy would be
my #5 I just think I kind of you

1471
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:59,840
caught like a late, a late air 
of his wrestling career, but 

1472
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,400
also like earlier into like when
he's really just doing the 

1473
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:04,760
management stuff so. 
Yeah, right, dude. 

1474
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:06,880
Guys. 
Not a bad list here. 

1475
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,280
I like that. 
This is a good question here at 

1476
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,960
James 555K no Flair short and 
sweet. 

1477
01:12:12,480 --> 01:12:15,480
So to me and what what was Rick 
like an 18 or 19 time champion? 

1478
01:12:15,480 --> 01:12:17,720
He always had the bell wherever 
he was amazing. 

1479
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:20,200
I mean his promos, that's 
another guy's promos were 

1480
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,440
insane. 
But I didn't really see Pete. 

1481
01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:25,000
I know Ric Flair wrestle 
forever. 

1482
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,000
I didn't see Pete Ric Flair 
because he was down South. 

1483
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:31,400
He was in different federations,
different groups there. 

1484
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,320
And and I know again, I know all
the like his his battles with 

1485
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,560
Harley race and some of the 
things that he did. 

1486
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,800
I just, and he might very well 
be on the Rushmore if you 

1487
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:43,040
encompass everything like I 
mean, he'd he'd have to like 

1488
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,000
you'd have to put Vince there in
terms of consideration like 

1489
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,320
Rushmore, Vince and Hulk and 
Flair. 

1490
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:50,560
I get it. 
You know, maybe the Undertaker, 

1491
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,800
like, you know, maybe, maybe, 
maybe a scene, maybe somebody 

1492
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:57,960
like that, right. 
But I did, I saw him when he 

1493
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:01,800
came to WWF. 
He was still good, but I didn't 

1494
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,840
watch him the way that I like. 
I kind of checked out of 

1495
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,160
wrestling a little bit. 
Like I went from being an 

1496
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:12,000
absolute nut ball from age 6 
from my grandma's, I said the 

1497
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:17,400
other day to about 7th grade. 
And then it really started to 

1498
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,320
drop off. 
And you know, Saturday mornings 

1499
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:20,800
I've been practice. 
I'm doing, you know, I'm, I'm 

1500
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:23,960
not watching wrestling and 
unless it was like Saturday 

1501
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:25,280
night's made event, which was 
great too. 

1502
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:29,640
But I checked out and then I 
caught up on all this stuff and 

1503
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:33,280
it was, it's so much fun to do. 
And now that I think about it, 

1504
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:35,280
these guys aren't on my list. 
I'm going to give you 2 good 

1505
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:38,280
heels that to this day, they're 
both alive. 

1506
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:42,240
I love to hear him talk. 1 is 
disgruntled and miserable with 

1507
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,520
certain things. 
And one is, is, is still, you 

1508
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:48,360
know, I think a pretty good guy.
Ted Dibiase and the honky tonk 

1509
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:52,680
and the honky tonk man. 
See to me like, I don't need to 

1510
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:56,360
heal to be, you know, jacked or 
whatever. 

1511
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:00,480
I think the most potent 
connection like that distaste 

1512
01:14:00,480 --> 01:14:02,360
for somebody. 
That's why Piper was so good at 

1513
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,400
this. 
When you truly, if you're 

1514
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:08,920
watching at home or you're in 
the arena and you just want to 

1515
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:13,080
see your guy, get their hands on
that guy and destroy him because

1516
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:16,920
you can't stand that guy. 
And Ted Dibiase was slippery 

1517
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,840
with Virgil. 
You know, guys, you know, guys 

1518
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:21,760
slipping in their or or foreign 
object. 

1519
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:25,960
The Honky Tonk man had a great 
run with Macho Man and obviously

1520
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,480
with Elizabeth there and George 
the animal Steele, even though 

1521
01:14:28,480 --> 01:14:31,600
George was was way past his 
prime and both of those guys 

1522
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,720
could talk now. 
Dibiase was a really good worker

1523
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,320
who could cut a massive promo. 
And then you have the 

1524
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:40,320
intimidating Virgil who's beyond
Jack next to him, which was a 

1525
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,120
great contrast. 
Didn't say a word and then you 

1526
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:44,160
had. 
But he was really good in the 

1527
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,400
ring, very good technical rest, 
especially when he was younger. 

1528
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:48,960
And the Honky Tonk man can move 
a little bit as well. 

1529
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,160
And it was a unique gimmick. 
And and I do agree, like a lot 

1530
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,640
of those gimmicks. 
What was the thing that came out

1531
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,560
of the egg? 
What was that one? 

1532
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,000
What what was that called? 
That just bombed. 

1533
01:14:59,440 --> 01:15:02,360
They they they started getting 
too kid oriented and too corny 

1534
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:05,720
and too cartoonish. 
And that was you see this, I 

1535
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:07,240
know you're looking it up. 
That was. 

1536
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:10,280
Bobble D. 
Gooker WHAT? 

1537
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,880
The hell? 
Oh yeah, I guess a professional 

1538
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:16,720
wrestling Turkey mascot. 
And he comes out of the big 

1539
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,040
shell when they're interviewing 
him right on the stage. 

1540
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,480
Come on, man. 
But like, Honky Tonk was a guy 

1541
01:15:22,480 --> 01:15:24,440
who had enough juice in the 
ring. 

1542
01:15:24,440 --> 01:15:25,720
He had some good finishing 
moves. 

1543
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:27,960
He could punch, he could fight, 
he could promo. 

1544
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:30,720
And I, I needed the promo I 
need. 

1545
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:33,600
That's why, like Jimmy Snooker 
was a hell of a wrestler, but 

1546
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,200
with certain things. 
But he just couldn't he couldn't

1547
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:36,800
talk. 
Like, if you couldn't 

1548
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,480
communicate to me, I I didn't 
feel you as much. 

1549
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:41,840
You know what I mean? 
I mean, 100, I feel like that's 

1550
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,160
why I definitely preferred like 
Monday Night Raw to Smack Down, 

1551
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:48,560
just because I feel like Raw had
more of like the promo storyline

1552
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,760
aspects and Smackdown would kind
of just have like undercard 

1553
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:55,560
fights, maybe like a main one. 
But yeah, good times, good time.

1554
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:57,280
What about this one here? 
City moons? 

1555
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:00,520
No love for the attitude era? 
I got into that after the fact, 

1556
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:02,240
and it seems like I missed a 
pretty good era. 

1557
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,760
Like the attitude era. 
Is that when they're doing all 

1558
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,240
this stuff like, right, the 
attitude era of those guys, 

1559
01:16:07,480 --> 01:16:10,360
Michael? 
Hitman heart, Hitman heart. 

1560
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:17,120
Triple H like Degeneration X, 
Probably peak Undertaker, and 

1561
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,040
then Stone Cold was probably the
main guy. 

1562
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:21,920
Rock was like the villain, I'd 
say at the time. 

1563
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:26,440
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. 
Biscuits under score. 

1564
01:16:26,440 --> 01:16:28,360
Chooch. 
What's going on here, Chooch? 

1565
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:30,120
Yeah. 
Now you had to remember this, 

1566
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:34,200
the The Rock and Wrestling 
connection with Cyndi Lauper and

1567
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,360
Lou Albano. 
I actually interviewed Lou 

1568
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:38,840
Albano before he passed away. 
I had him on. 

1569
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,400
I had him on one of my early 
radio shows and he called up the

1570
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,080
same way because it was in 
Allentown. 

1571
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,520
I just mentioned that was my 
first job and the way it was set

1572
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:47,720
up, we had one phone line, 
right. 

1573
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:51,600
So, you know, I was doing. 
I was here and my partner was on

1574
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:53,200
the other side. 
I told the story once, but not 

1575
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,520
about Captain Lew. 
But anytime the phone would ring

1576
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,720
like a caller, I would have to 
basically excuse myself in the 

1577
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:00,680
conversation and answer the 
phone. 

1578
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:04,000
And I remember it was Captain 
Louie booked them and he goes, 

1579
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,120
hey, it's Captain Lou and I'm 
talking to you like the same 

1580
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:08,280
time. 
Like he was absolutely in 

1581
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,400
character and a great guy. 
But the rocking like you talk 

1582
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:15,320
about just to kind of circle 
all, everything together here 

1583
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:19,320
with my distaste for the way 
football's gone with, well, the 

1584
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:21,200
streaming and everything that 
Goodell's done. 

1585
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:22,920
And if you guys just tuned in, 
you're going to want to watch 

1586
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:23,960
that. 
I think it was, I think it was a

1587
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:25,520
good one today for sure. 
I hope, I hope it was a good 

1588
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,880
one. 
And how the the globalization 

1589
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:32,080
and the monetization, the 
explosion financially of 

1590
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:36,920
football, the explosion 
financially of the WWF at that 

1591
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:41,040
point was rooted in what you're 
looking at on the screen once 

1592
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:43,320
Vince McMahon. 
And listen, we've all seen the 

1593
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:44,440
documentary. 
I've been in a few of the 

1594
01:17:44,440 --> 01:17:47,560
documentaries where 1 is on A&E 
about WrestleMania. 

1595
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:48,360
If you guys want to check it 
out. 

1596
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,840
I'm actually, and I contributed 
quite a bit a few years ago. 

1597
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:54,400
And I guess it would have been 
like the anniversary, whatever 

1598
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:58,560
on 40 or 50 or 40 years. 
And once they made the decision,

1599
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:01,480
Vince McMahon to start bringing 
in these people that were not 

1600
01:18:01,480 --> 01:18:03,560
involved in wrestling, Cyndi 
Lauper. 

1601
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:08,720
Now you got MTV and I mean 
MTVII, like when I was young, 

1602
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:10,440
MTV, yeah. 
You had to watch it everyday. 

1603
01:18:10,440 --> 01:18:11,680
It's how you watch the videos, 
man. 

1604
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,800
You had to watch it. 
And so you had that. 

1605
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:16,360
You had the musical element. 
Yeah. 

1606
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:19,520
Muhammad Ali, you had Liberace, 
who was a great pianist. 

1607
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:21,840
If you if you know about 
Liberace, you know what I'm 

1608
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:23,320
talking about. 
Billy Martin was the ring 

1609
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,800
announcer. 
Like he brought it all these pop

1610
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:30,080
culture icons and just Bob 
Euchre was, was one of the 

1611
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:34,160
announcers for one of them. 
And it crossed over and the 

1612
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,200
money exploded and the interest 
exploded to the point where 

1613
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:41,000
wrestling went from those CYO 
gyms that were, were great, but 

1614
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:43,800
way too small and you're not 
going to make much money to a 

1615
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:48,520
mainstream cross section of, of,
of, of nuttiness to the point 

1616
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,160
where Hulk Hogan was on the 
cover of SI. 

1617
01:18:51,440 --> 01:18:53,080
Where it back in the day. 
Oh yeah. 

1618
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,760
You had to buy the wrestling 
magazines, which I used to love.

1619
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:58,120
I remember. 
And my dad hated them. 

1620
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:03,560
Dude, I remember Jay going to 
like, you know, to get like 

1621
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:05,520
baseball weekly, whatever, but I
always want to get a rest of it.

1622
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:06,920
And he just, he just hated the 
sport. 

1623
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:11,880
And and I would see these very 
gory covers like Abdullah the 

1624
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,520
Butcher, Rick, they're all 
bloodied up. 

1625
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:16,480
I'm like, God, he would never 
buy it for me. 

1626
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:20,320
I always want then they would 
rank like WWF Champion Hulk 

1627
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:21,760
Hogan. 
Then they'd have like the top 10

1628
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:25,240
contenders, AWA champion. 
It was fun. 

1629
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:28,480
It was fun. 
But yeah, Cyndi Lauper, who I 

1630
01:19:28,480 --> 01:19:32,440
mean, Cyndi Lauper was right 
there like for a minute with 

1631
01:19:32,440 --> 01:19:34,840
Madonna. 
Like when you think about think 

1632
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:38,240
about Lady Gaga's popularity 
stemming from, you know, bad 

1633
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,560
Romance and, and those songs 
when she first burst on the 

1634
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:45,440
scene, her global appeal and 
what she sold Cyndi Lauper was 

1635
01:19:45,440 --> 01:19:46,880
like she. 
Was right. 

1636
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:48,160
Time after. 
Time. 

1637
01:19:48,440 --> 01:19:51,240
That's a good. 
Song Good song Time after time 

1638
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:53,520
girls just wanna have fun. 
Captain Captain lose in the 

1639
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,000
video. 
Oh of girls just want to have 

1640
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:57,480
fun. 
Yeah, I think really. 

1641
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,360
I heard that. 
Then that's funny. 

1642
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:01,760
Yeah. 
So it's funny how certain things

1643
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:05,160
kind of explode and become 
bigger and you know, Vince 

1644
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,120
rolled the dice. 
He basically took all this money

1645
01:20:07,480 --> 01:20:09,520
and he said I'm going for it. 
And he bought out the 

1646
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,280
territories and then they dried 
up. 

1647
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:12,960
The couple was still around, but
they just couldn't, they 

1648
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:14,840
couldn't function. 
Then they were all gone. 

1649
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:18,880
Then he took any wrestler he, 
like JYD coming from I think 

1650
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,880
Memphis and Harley Race and Rick
Flair took everybody. 

1651
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:25,040
The road war, the road, the road
warriors were good. 

1652
01:20:25,440 --> 01:20:27,120
Those were guys. 
Did you ever see them coming 

1653
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:29,960
into the ring? 
Maybe like a couple just older 

1654
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,760
vids, they were like they were A
tag team duo, right? 

1655
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:35,600
Yeah, animal and hawk. 
Yeah, of course. 

1656
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,440
And they had a manager who was a
really good manager who was who 

1657
01:20:39,440 --> 01:20:42,640
was really good for them. 
And they would come in like they

1658
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:47,200
had like, mohawks and makeup and
spiked shoulder pads and they 

1659
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:50,920
were absolutely yoked and they 
were nuts. 

1660
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,400
And they would come into to Iron
Man. 

1661
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:58,440
They got like saw like a video 
of them like like powerbombing 

1662
01:20:58,440 --> 01:21:01,640
like a female wrestler through 
like a table or something like 

1663
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:02,800
that. 
See that one? 

1664
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:06,680
They were like or something like
that, something crazy. 

1665
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:08,840
Oh my God, I'm going to get a 
couple more. 

1666
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:09,640
Yeah, good. 
What do you? 

1667
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:12,640
Got do you remember recently, 
like on just the guest thing, 

1668
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:17,120
like the Cyndi Lauper, like when
they had Lavar Ball in the WWE 

1669
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:22,040
like a couple times and like he 
cut a promo with Lonzo, Liangelo

1670
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:24,840
and Lamello and it was just like
the strangest thing ever. 

1671
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:26,920
Who Wait, who cut it? 
I I know the balls. 

1672
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:30,160
Who? 
Lavar Ball and it was like him 

1673
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:33,720
squaring up with The Miz. 
It was absurd. 

1674
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:37,400
I had remember when Lavar first 
burst on the scene. 

1675
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:39,640
The dad. 
Yeah, yeah, of course. 

1676
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,200
And the sneakers. 
Me and Tiki had him on the show.

1677
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:44,680
Really. 
We had him on the show when he 

1678
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:49,240
was just like, it was a pretty 
big get and we had, he was cool 

1679
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:50,760
as shit, man. 
He was cool. 

1680
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:52,960
He was good, dude. 
We had him on for an hour to the

1681
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:56,880
point where he, I remember we 
were doing the interview, we're 

1682
01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:00,440
probably like 10-12 minutes in 
and he's like, oh man, I got to 

1683
01:22:00,440 --> 01:22:01,360
take this call. 
It's business. 

1684
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:02,720
I'm like, what big ball of brand
sneakers. 

1685
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:03,800
What are you doing? 
An interview? 

1686
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:06,200
You get back to him, you're 
you're on a national show. 

1687
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:07,720
He's like, yo-yo, I'll call you 
back. 

1688
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:11,640
I'm like that, right? 
So he just hung up and I'm, you 

1689
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:13,120
know, I I probably dissed him a 
little. 

1690
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:14,280
I'm like, yeah, who's he think 
he is? 

1691
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,040
Nothing crazy, but like, you 
know what you doing who you 

1692
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:17,640
think you are? 
He called back. 

1693
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:19,080
He's like, yo, sorry about that 
guys. 

1694
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:21,400
I really had to handle that. 
I'm like, dude, nice and we 

1695
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,200
talked for good. 
That's awesome. 

1696
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:25,200
And what? 
Was this before Lonzo got 

1697
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,880
drafted like in that kind of 
lead up here? 

1698
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:32,120
Wow, yes, yes. 
I mean, if I had a guess, what 

1699
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:33,720
year? 
When was Lonzo drafted? 

1700
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,560
2017. 
Oh my God, way before that. 

1701
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:38,880
Yeah. 
I'm talking like 20. 

1702
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:43,280
Let me see, I started the 
national show in 2013 with Tiki,

1703
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:47,280
so it wasn't 13 or 14. 
I think it may have been about 

1704
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:52,000
15 or 16, probably 15 about. 
Like in peak Lavar ball Chino 

1705
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,960
Hills basketball era. 
That's so cool. 

1706
01:22:55,440 --> 01:22:59,720
Brazen, loud, cocky, incredibly 
arrogant. 

1707
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:03,040
Oh, just a great interview and 
just real and transparent. 

1708
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,040
I enjoyed it. 
I actually enjoyed it there. 

1709
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:07,480
What else we got here? 
Yeah. 

1710
01:23:07,480 --> 01:23:11,560
This was a guy. 
James, another James, 555K Dusty

1711
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:15,200
Rhodes. 
Like Dusty again, Dusty. 

1712
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:18,080
I know when it came to the WWF 
with that cheesy gimmick, with 

1713
01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:21,280
the black whatever the hell he 
was wearing and the yellow polka

1714
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:23,520
dots. 
And a lot of people thought that

1715
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:27,280
that was a rib, that Vince. 
That was Vince Flex and like, 

1716
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:28,840
all right, I know what you did 
there. 

1717
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:30,360
I know. 
And Dusty Rose, by the way, is 

1718
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:31,760
one of the greatest wrestles of 
all time. 

1719
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:35,360
He just had a horrendous body, 
Like bad body, but he could cut 

1720
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:38,680
a promo and he can move, he 
could take bumps, he can move, 

1721
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:40,320
he can punish you. 
He could he could brawl. 

1722
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:43,960
He was always bleeding champion 
like the real deal, but he just 

1723
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,520
didn't look. 
He didn't look good at all. 

1724
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:51,240
So when Dusty came to the WWF 
and they gave him that gimmick, 

1725
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:53,320
what was his what was the 
woman's name that he was with 

1726
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,680
for somebody who texted he he 
pulled her out of the crowd one 

1727
01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:00,040
day and she became his manager. 
And a lot of people did think 

1728
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,360
that McMahon, that was him 
flexing like, all right, I know 

1729
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,000
what you were, but now you're 
going to wear this goofy, get up

1730
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:07,280
and be a goofball and dance 
around to whatever you're 

1731
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:10,200
dancing around to just so I can 
show everybody that I basically 

1732
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:11,400
own you because I'm Vince 
Mcmahan. 

1733
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:13,480
But it really wasn't it was 
Vince. 

1734
01:24:13,480 --> 01:24:17,160
I, I saw something with Cornet 
about this recently on one of 

1735
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:20,000
those, one of those interviews 
that like a shoot and he was 

1736
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:21,760
saying no, a lot of people did 
think it was a rib that he was 

1737
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:25,120
just trying to mock them. 
But most people or, or the 

1738
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:28,080
people that actually knew the 
decision makers of the WWF at 

1739
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:31,360
that point, it was Vince's way 
of recreating like Vince would 

1740
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:34,240
take people, right? 
That's why I made Harley Race 

1741
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:37,600
King, like King race. 
He would take people and he 

1742
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:40,560
didn't just want them to 
replicate what they were in the 

1743
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:44,680
AWA or the N.W.A, some other 
western territory or Memphis. 

1744
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:47,800
He wanted to take all right, 
people know who they are, so 

1745
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:50,440
they're going to sell tickets. 
But then he wanted to repackage 

1746
01:24:50,440 --> 01:24:52,640
him and he was a mess. 
Now, I'm not saying everyone hit

1747
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:57,040
a home run, but I mean, Vince 
was, you know, I mean, 

1748
01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:59,960
incredibly interesting, 
incredibly interesting. 

1749
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,480
Do me a favor. 
Here's you got to do this right 

1750
01:25:02,480 --> 01:25:07,920
now. 
I need you to to Google BT and 

1751
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:13,120
Sal Google this. 
I I want to make sure we don't 

1752
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:17,000
do any anything trademark wise. 
If there's if there's like a WFI

1753
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:18,480
don't think there'll be a 
problem, but I just want to 

1754
01:25:18,480 --> 01:25:20,720
avoid any issues. 
If there's a WFAN microphone 

1755
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:25,320
that don't use it try to find 
the picture when he and I 

1756
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:26,640
dressed up. 
Have you ever seen this? 

1757
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:28,200
When I was gold dusted he was 
doing. 

1758
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:31,360
Yeah, I have seen that. 
Let me try to find it. 

1759
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:33,960
I I saw it on Twitter before. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1760
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:36,800
Let's see. 
Oh my God. 

1761
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:39,840
I mean it's. 
It's got the mics in the frame. 

1762
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,400
Yeah, does it All right, See if 
you can get those out again. 

1763
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:43,600
I don't think it's the biggest 
deal. 

1764
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:45,000
I just want to I want to make 
sure we do this the. 

1765
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:46,480
Right way here. 
Wait, I got you. 

1766
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:48,840
Absolutely insane. 
We lost a football. 

1767
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:50,640
Bet it was me and Sal. 
Oh. 

1768
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:54,440
My gosh, didn't even recognize 
him. 

1769
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:58,080
And our is our old producer, 
right, Hoff and we did it for a 

1770
01:25:58,080 --> 01:25:59,800
couple years. 
We were together, we would do on

1771
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:01,120
foot on Friday, make pics, 
right? 

1772
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:04,000
The perfect parlay. 
And what happened was if you 

1773
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:06,680
finished first, there was three 
of us who did it, me, Sal and 

1774
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:10,040
Hoff, right? 
So if you finished first, Jesus 

1775
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:12,720
dude, I did my own make up 
there. 

1776
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:16,280
Really. 
I swear to God I'll never forget

1777
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:17,720
a good like. 
Line on that on. 

1778
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:20,240
That well, what I did was I 
mean, I, I listen, you had to 

1779
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:21,720
lean into it. 
You lost it, but keep that up 

1780
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:23,880
there. 
Again, I want to show like you 

1781
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,640
had to lean into it. 
So I just ordered all this black

1782
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:28,880
and yellow black and gold stuff 
from Amazon. 

1783
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:30,880
I got gold face paint. 
It's easy because I'm bald, 

1784
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:32,840
right? 
I shaved my face, I put it on 

1785
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:36,120
and I outlined that black. 
I don't know what that is. 

1786
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,200
I mean, I was obviously looking 
at an image of gold dust. 

1787
01:26:38,480 --> 01:26:42,120
I outlined it with, like, my 
son's eye black just so I kind 

1788
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:45,280
of had the general shape. 
And then I shaded it in. 

1789
01:26:46,440 --> 01:26:47,240
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1790
01:26:47,480 --> 01:26:49,120
But we, here's the thing about 
the bet. 

1791
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:50,360
You can get it off there. 
Here's the thing about. 

1792
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:53,000
That's wild, isn't it? 
Here's the thing about the bet. 

1793
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:57,320
Whoever won, whoever finished 
first place for the whole year 

1794
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:02,000
got to choose what the other two
guys are getting dressed up as. 

1795
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,000
You had no say in the matter 
right now. 

1796
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:07,080
The only saving grace was if you
finished second rather than 

1797
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:10,240
three out of three, you got to 
pick the lesser of the two 

1798
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:11,640
evils. 
All right. 

1799
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:15,320
So when Hoff won, I mean he did 
his dirty, but it was great for 

1800
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:17,200
the show. 
It was all right. 

1801
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:21,800
I finished second that year. 
Gold dust or doink, and I'm and 

1802
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:26,400
this was this was after our big 
flare up with Carl banks, who I 

1803
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,640
love and and Carl's I'm going to
actually get Carl on the show. 

1804
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:31,120
Carl's been a friend forever. 
That just got off the rails and 

1805
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:34,000
it was what it was, whatever. 
And we made amends, all of us, 

1806
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,400
right? 
But that was right after the 

1807
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,520
Crawl Banks stuff. 
So we had to stick in the 

1808
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:40,880
wrestling, you know, vernacular.
We had heat, man. 

1809
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,760
So everybody's called us clowns.
And then of course, when we 

1810
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:45,800
leave, everybody loves us and 
they say we're the best midday 

1811
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:47,800
show in the history of the fan. 
Everybody loved us. 

1812
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:51,480
But when we were there early, 
clowns, jerks, idiots, clowns. 

1813
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:56,160
So because they called us clowns
a lot, especially with the bank 

1814
01:27:56,160 --> 01:28:00,160
stuff, I'm sitting there saying 
I, I can't I can't get dressed 

1815
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:02,880
up as a clown. 
I mean, I'll lean into it, but 

1816
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:05,440
that's just write the jokes for 
you, write the jokes for 

1817
01:28:05,440 --> 01:28:08,480
everybody. 
So what happened was I, I'm 

1818
01:28:08,480 --> 01:28:10,960
like, all right, this, I mean, 
this is not a not a real win 

1819
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:12,800
here. 
I don't need I still to this 

1820
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,320
day, and it's not a knock and 
I'm not not taking a shot at 

1821
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:16,200
all. 
I'll take it the wrong way. 

1822
01:28:16,480 --> 01:28:18,400
I don't know what gold dust is. 
Is he a guy? 

1823
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:19,840
Is he a girl? 
Is he something in between? 

1824
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:21,480
I don't know what he is. 
I have no idea. 

1825
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:23,480
I don't know. 
So I'm like, all right, I'm 

1826
01:28:23,480 --> 01:28:26,560
either going to be yeah, yeah, 
I'm going to be that, or I'm 

1827
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:29,560
going to be this clown. 
So I opted for gold dust. 

1828
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:35,120
And it's funny, there's video, 
it's out there and it's a split 

1829
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:38,560
screen Sal where Jay Rod is me 
where I am at this point. 

1830
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:42,080
And we're doing the show and we 
had to do the entire show in 

1831
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:44,960
that, get up the entire show for
four hours dressed up like that.

1832
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:47,600
So, you know, I forget what the 
topic was. 

1833
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:50,640
It wasn't about banks. 
Somebody calls us up and I I 

1834
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:52,320
think somebody called Sal a 
clown. 

1835
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:55,320
They were getting mad at Sal. 
And it's one of the funniest 

1836
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:57,120
freaking videos I've ever seen 
in my life. 

1837
01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:00,600
I'm, I'm laughing so hard, I'm 
crying because here's Sal 

1838
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,840
dressed up as Doink. 
Can you find that picture? 

1839
01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:06,280
Yeah. 
Without one, without any WFAN 

1840
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:10,080
stuff, Right. 
And Sal is in the middle and he,

1841
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:12,280
oh, look at him, look at him, 
look at him. 

1842
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:13,760
I mean, how good is that, by the
way? 

1843
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:16,720
I mean, that's phenomenal. 
And he's in the middle of 

1844
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:19,520
wearing that, in the middle of 
going back and forth with the 

1845
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:21,160
colder. 
And he goes like this. 

1846
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:24,800
He goes something like you, you 
might call me a clown. 

1847
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:27,320
I am not in fact, a clown. 
I am a talk show host. 

1848
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,760
So and and I'm just sitting 
there looking at this lunatic 

1849
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:35,840
who I love this deranged nut 
ball who is 10 levels more 

1850
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:39,360
deranged than he's ever been 
about a Yankee or a Med or some 

1851
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:42,680
argument that we're into. 
And he's telling everybody that 

1852
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:44,760
he's not a clown as he's dressed
as well. 

1853
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:47,560
And I'm I'm dude, I'm Legera. 
I'm laughing so hard. 

1854
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:48,800
I have tears coming down my 
eyes. 

1855
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:50,440
I'm laughing and I just look at 
him. 

1856
01:29:50,440 --> 01:29:53,600
I just said, dude, I really wish
you didn't just say that. 

1857
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:56,560
And he's like, he's like, why? 
He's like now he's like calming 

1858
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:58,600
down. 
He's like, why what I go, you 

1859
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:00,160
just told everybody, not a 
clown. 

1860
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:01,560
Look at you. 
Look what you're wearing. 

1861
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:04,360
Oh my God. 
And then I lost. 

1862
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:06,880
I never won, but I never came in
3rd place. 

1863
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:10,600
And then the next year, and 
maybe you could find this one, 

1864
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:14,880
who was Sal this year? 
No, no Sal one again. 

1865
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:17,280
I finished in second, so I got 
the lesser of the two evils and 

1866
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:20,320
it was brother love. 
See if you could find me again. 

1867
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:26,520
No, no FAN stuff trademark stuff
me as brother love now I didn't 

1868
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:28,960
do as good AI tried. 
I didn't do as good of a job 

1869
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:31,720
with the brother of love as I 
this is this is actually this is

1870
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:34,600
horrendous as I did with gold 
gold dust number one. 

1871
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:36,800
I I don't have hair, so the wig 
was awful. 

1872
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:40,480
The color red was way too bright
like I messed it. 

1873
01:30:40,480 --> 01:30:43,200
I tried. 
I ordered like 8 rings from 

1874
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:45,160
Amazon. 
I had the white communion 

1875
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:47,360
jumpsuit on whatever the hell I 
was wearing. 

1876
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:50,280
I had some fake, you know, 
toupee. 

1877
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:54,360
I I I I plaster bright red all 
over my face. 

1878
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:57,000
Did you find that you had? 
Would it be on your Instagram by

1879
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:58,560
any chance? 
I probably would be. 

1880
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:01,000
Did you just Did you just Google
BTI? 

1881
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:03,760
Looked up BT brother love. 
It wasn't showing up. 

1882
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:05,440
Just Brother Love was showing 
up. 

1883
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:07,200
Are you serious? 
Yeah, what? 

1884
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:12,600
I mean, if it's on my Instagram 
page, it's really deep on my IG.

1885
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:14,520
But it was two years ago. 
No, it was let. 

1886
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:16,640
When was it? 
I think I'm, I guess it was last

1887
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:18,600
football season. 
Yeah, because we didn't finish 

1888
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:20,360
this football season. 
Good. 

1889
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:22,000
Who knows what I would have to 
dress up. 

1890
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:25,000
Although I was winning. 
I was winning this year before 

1891
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:26,280
they pulled the plug on the 
show. 

1892
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:28,440
Damn it. 
I would have gotten nasty on 

1893
01:31:28,440 --> 01:31:29,680
that one. 
And who was Hoff? 

1894
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:37,160
Hoff looked great. 
Hoff was not mankind, but he 

1895
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:41,880
leaned into it as well. 
And I remember I'm like, man, I 

1896
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:44,240
don't know if I can do this, but
I'm like a bets a bet. 

1897
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:47,080
And then the more I'll I'll let 
you know a little secret, the 

1898
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:51,040
more like after gold dust, I'm 
like, I don't even really care 

1899
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:51,880
if I lose. 
It's fun. 

1900
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:54,200
It's fun for the show. 
It's wacky. 

1901
01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:57,320
Oh my God, I, you know, I got to
get some wrestling guests on 

1902
01:31:57,320 --> 01:31:57,960
here. 
What do you think? 

1903
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:00,840
That would be so fun. 
Yeah, I mean, we have to. 

1904
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:05,040
Yeah, this guy remembers this 
date and time, 2379 S saying I'm

1905
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:08,480
not a clown, while dressed up as
doing absolutely classic. 

1906
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:12,760
It really was one of the 
funniest things that I've that 

1907
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:16,040
I've seen. 
I gold, Gold dust is an enigma. 

1908
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:19,120
Yeah, I, I guess, yeah, I All 
right. 

1909
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:20,760
We got a lot of wrestling fans. 
That's true. 

1910
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:23,360
That is true. 
What is this one here at Rod 

1911
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:25,040
Power? 
BTU and Sal need to do right 

1912
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:28,000
with Carl to make amends for him
and with him, I'm sure he'll 

1913
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:30,400
give you and Sal free starter 
jackets. 

1914
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:33,320
Well, number one, that's not why
you make amends with somebody #1

1915
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:35,640
#2 that's old news. 
But we already have made amends 

1916
01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:39,160
#3 is how good a Carl is. 
Is how good a guy Carl Banks is?

1917
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:42,280
Carl Banks, actually, I'll give 
him a shout out here. 

1918
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:45,200
He's got the, the starter 
business, you know, with all the

1919
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:49,240
stuff they, the old school 
throwback satin jackets, right? 

1920
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:51,400
Biggie stuff with the biggie's 
patch. 

1921
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:54,440
And I used to rock one in real 
time in, you know, growing up I 

1922
01:32:54,440 --> 01:32:56,240
had St. 
John's obviously and a couple of

1923
01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:59,000
people at Georgetown and like 
Saint John, God, we hated each 

1924
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:01,200
other. 
And he's got a really good 

1925
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:07,720
business, very successful. 
And he sent me a bag of I think 

1926
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:11,680
he sent 3 or 4 jackets, like the
jackets like 350 each 2 for my 

1927
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:16,040
son, a red 1A blue 11 for me, 
one for my daughter, like just, 

1928
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:19,800
and it said nothing like Carl's 
just a great guy got away from 

1929
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:21,680
us. 
We apologize, whatever things 

1930
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:25,920
happen, but you know, listen to 
defend myself and us a little 

1931
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,000
bit. 
He kind of came at us a little 

1932
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:29,240
bit. 
Now I don't like the way it 

1933
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:31,360
ended there for us. 
Both of us were, were a little 

1934
01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:34,200
guilty there. 
But you know, you come on our 

1935
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:37,680
show, you know, we we got to 
stand our ground here much like 

1936
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:40,200
and I got some heat for this as 
well. 

1937
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:44,200
Paul O'Neill wrote a book and I 
forget what the book was about. 

1938
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:45,760
And I love Paul. 
He's one of my all time favorite

1939
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:47,720
baseball players behind 
Mattingly and a few others. 

1940
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:51,680
And we just when I was with Tiki
in the mid days of the fan and 

1941
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:55,040
we had him booked right. 
And what the hell was it? 

1942
01:33:55,040 --> 01:34:00,600
It was Josh Donaldson and who 
was the White Sox shortstop? 

1943
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:03,720
Oh my God, this is a big deal. 
He was a really good player for 

1944
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:04,840
a couple of years. 
Then he was awful. 

1945
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:07,680
He just fizzled out. 
And it was something about 

1946
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:11,800
Jackie Robinson that that was 
said. 

1947
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:15,520
And I think it was Jackie 
Robinson Day. 

1948
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:19,000
I forget the specifics. 
I don't want to misrepresent 

1949
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:23,240
something that's important, but 
Donaldson was involved and it 

1950
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:27,440
happened on a Sunday, I think. 
And like there was a a, a racial

1951
01:34:27,440 --> 01:34:29,880
undertone and it was a big 
story. 

1952
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:32,760
Now, Josh said he didn't mean 
anything racist by it and there 

1953
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:34,680
was almost a fight, Yankees, 
White Sox, whatever. 

1954
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:36,720
Not not a good look for anybody 
involved there. 

1955
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:39,280
Anyway, we have O'Neil coming up
and O'Neil was doing the game 

1956
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:40,920
that weekend, as he often does. 
He's great. 

1957
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:42,920
I love them with K and Coney. 
I think it's the best broadcast 

1958
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:47,360
boot they have. 
So we have them coming on and we

1959
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:50,440
have them coming on Zoom to talk
about his book, which was 

1960
01:34:50,440 --> 01:34:53,120
booked, which was booked for 
about two weeks. 

1961
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:55,720
And and I'm talking to Hoffman 
to talk back. 

1962
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:57,240
And I'm like, Hey, make sure you
let Paul know. 

1963
01:34:57,240 --> 01:34:59,600
I got to ask him about, you 
know, what went down with what 

1964
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:02,720
the hell is the guy's name? 
Jeez, I forget his name with 

1965
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:06,680
Josh Donaldson and and whomever 
and off doing his job told him. 

1966
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:10,280
And O'Neill's like, no, I'm not 
going to get into that. 

1967
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:16,120
Now understand the first hour of
the show was exclusively on that

1968
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:18,040
incident. 
That's how we started the show. 

1969
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:20,280
Me and T come out of 10 from 
10:50. 

1970
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:22,840
It may have even been from 10:00
to 11:20 because we don't have 

1971
01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:24,560
guests at the top of the hour. 
I don't like to do that. 

1972
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:27,600
I think we had about 11:20. 
So the first hour and 20 minutes

1973
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:31,600
are all on the Donaldson flare 
up with the White Sox around 

1974
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:34,720
Jackie Robinson sensitive topic.
We got to get to the bottom of 

1975
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:36,320
this. 
So I want to make sure that 

1976
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:39,720
O'Neill knows that I'm going to 
ask you about this because you 

1977
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:41,200
just have to be prepared to talk
about it. 

1978
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:42,760
Otherwise you're you're a 
useless guest. 

1979
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:46,120
Like I'm not here to sell books 
for you and you not talk about 

1980
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:48,680
what is the most hurtin and 
topic in New York that day. 

1981
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:52,120
It's not happening. 
So again, Long story short, he 

1982
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:55,840
tells Hoff he's like, Nah, he's 
like, I can't get into that. 

1983
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:58,360
And I and then Hoff tells me and
basically it's like, tell him we

1984
01:35:58,360 --> 01:35:59,920
can't have him on. 
Tell him I said I'm not trying 

1985
01:35:59,920 --> 01:36:01,880
to be disrespectful. 
I I love him. 

1986
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:03,680
I'm one of he's one of my 
favorite players. 

1987
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:06,320
You know, I, I, I like to give 
his book a pop, but there's no 

1988
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:08,960
way I'm bringing him on my show 
as a vehicle to push out his 

1989
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:12,040
book to not talk about what what
we're talking about when it's 

1990
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:13,720
something that sensitive and 
that important. 

1991
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:17,800
And he just, he got so pissed 
off, told me that because he was

1992
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:20,080
still on Zoomed O'neal's like, 
mother fucker. 

1993
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:21,520
What the fuck are those guys 
doing? 

1994
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:24,920
Yeah, like, that's bullshit. 
So mad. 

1995
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:27,960
And it was in the New York Post 
and everybody wrote about, yeah,

1996
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:29,640
that's some interesting flare 
ups. 

1997
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:33,840
But if you really think about 
it, that's my job. 

1998
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:35,720
I mean, imagine being such a 
weak host. 

1999
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:37,840
Oh, no, that's OK, Paul. 
You don't have to talk about it.

2000
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:40,800
Again, this is not me knocking 
Paul. 

2001
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:43,280
I genuinely, and I've done 
events with Paul, not not since 

2002
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:45,920
then, but I love him. 
I love him on the air, loved him

2003
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:48,760
as a player. 
Really, mate, he might be #2 

2004
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:50,640
behind Mattingly. 
And you know what Mattingly 

2005
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:52,360
means to me. 
And this guy, J Rod finally 

2006
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:54,960
learned and made amends. 
So he might be, he very well 

2007
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:57,040
might be #2 I love them that 
much. 

2008
01:36:57,040 --> 01:36:59,200
But I'm not here to sell books 
for you, dude. 

2009
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:01,880
If you're not talking about what
we're talking about, you're not 

2010
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:03,880
comfortable, that's fine. 
You're not coming on the show. 

2011
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:05,960
And it was a big story in the 
post. 

2012
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:08,280
Like, you know, tyranny, bands, 
O'Neil, whatever the hell 

2013
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:09,640
without Google Lit, it's out 
there. 

2014
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:12,000
And I'm, and I, and I even said 
when I came back, I said, 

2015
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:13,680
listen, I'm not trying to 
disrespect you, Paul. 

2016
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:17,280
I said my audience is number 1. 
I cannot in good faith. 

2017
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:19,920
And I went to try to be 
respectful, but let everybody 

2018
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:25,040
know where we're coming from. 
You know, Oh my God Almighty, I 

2019
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:26,560
was a little worried about St. 
John's last night. 

2020
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:28,480
Did now, have you watched any 
St. 

2021
01:37:28,480 --> 01:37:30,000
John's yet? 
Be honest, but. 

2022
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:34,040
No, I mean just that UConn game.
Just that UConn game, alright? 

2023
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:36,720
We're gonna have to change that.
You want to go to a game? 

2024
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:38,040
You want to go to a game? 
I would love to. 

2025
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:40,760
That'd be so much fun. 
How about this? 

2026
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:42,400
I can get you pretty good seats 
at the garden. 

2027
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:43,880
You have anybody that you could 
ask on a date? 

2028
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:45,160
I'm not hooking you and your 
boys up. 

2029
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:51,400
Let's see, let's right now 
potentially not, but let me go 

2030
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:53,280
through the Rolodex real quick 
and let. 

2031
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:55,160
Me, look at the schedule. 
There's always potential. 

2032
01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:58,440
Don't say what you should say is
not now, but potentially yes. 

2033
01:37:58,480 --> 01:38:00,360
Yes, you said it wrong. 
Not, not. 

2034
01:38:00,480 --> 01:38:02,080
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Hold on. 

2035
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:03,520
Let me see. 
They've only got a couple more 

2036
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:04,560
home games left. 
Let's see. 

2037
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:08,480
So Monday, all right. 
And I think they're going up to 

2038
01:38:08,480 --> 01:38:10,440
Providence this weekend. 
They'll be there. 

2039
01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:15,880
Let's see here, I think there's 
like 5 or 6 games left. 

2040
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:18,000
It's crazy for the regular 
season. 

2041
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:21,720
All right, here's the schedule. 
So Dan, a couple are away. 

2042
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:26,760
Xavier last night they got the 
win there at at Providence 

2043
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:28,120
Saturday, then it's at 
Marquette. 

2044
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:30,800
So here's your options. 
All right, then it's a UConn and

2045
01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:32,080
they have to play at Seton Hall 
as well. 

2046
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:34,600
So the home games, there's 123 
home games. 

2047
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:36,400
I'll shoot you this off the air.
You kind of start looking at 

2048
01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:40,320
stuff here, but it's one is 
Saturday, February 21st against 

2049
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:42,520
Creighton. 
That could be good. 

2050
01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:45,000
And by the way, if you can't 
find the girl, you could you 

2051
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:46,960
could bring a buddy. 
I'm not gonna you could still 

2052
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:48,560
have some fun. 
Villanova. 

2053
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:50,280
That would be a tougher take, 
but I could probably make it 

2054
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:53,480
happen. 
Saturday, February 28th And then

2055
01:38:53,480 --> 01:38:56,480
if you want to go on a Tuesday 
night against Georgetown, March 

2056
01:38:56,480 --> 01:38:58,640
3rd. 
Those are the three remaining 

2057
01:38:58,640 --> 01:38:59,560
games that. 
Would be fun. 

2058
01:38:59,920 --> 01:39:01,000
You've been to the garden 
before. 

2059
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:01,760
Right. 
Oh my God. 

2060
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:05,080
Yeah, a bunch of times. 
I mean, I was at I was at the 

2061
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:08,920
Knicks game when RJ Barrett hit 
the crazy buzzer beater into 

2062
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:10,280
Celtic. 
That was great. 

2063
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:12,840
And I was chirping with these 
dudes the whole time. 

2064
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:15,760
That was rough moment, rough 
moment. 

2065
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:18,800
I know that. 
I mean best buzzer beater I've. 

2066
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:20,840
Ever seen I? 
I thought that I thought not, 

2067
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:22,160
not well, that's the best one 
you've seen. 

2068
01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:25,000
I was actually at the game when 
Trent Tucker hit the shot with 

2069
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:28,800
110th of a second left when 
that's that was the impetus to 

2070
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:31,640
change and, and it's called the 
Trent Tucker rule where you need

2071
01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:33,240
at least 3/10 of a second to 
catch and. 

2072
01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:33,600
Shoot. 
Get a. 

2073
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:35,960
Shot off. 
Yeah, I was at that game. 

2074
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:41,360
That's crazy, J Rod J The crazy 
thing about that game is that I 

2075
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:43,240
actually had better seats than 
Spike. 

2076
01:39:43,440 --> 01:39:46,080
That game. 
Yeah, I came. 

2077
01:39:46,160 --> 01:39:49,200
I came from, I think it was high
school basketball practice. 

2078
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:53,120
And I went with my cousin Chris.
And I remember joking around 

2079
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:56,920
like I will he, I don't know how
my dad got these tickets because

2080
01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:59,360
we weren't rolling the money, 
but he he got sick tickets. 

2081
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:01,400
We were like 7 or 8 rows behind 
the Nick bench. 

2082
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:04,480
And I remember seeing Spike 
probably like 20 rows behind me.

2083
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:06,280
So I joke around. 
It's like the only time I had 

2084
01:40:06,480 --> 01:40:08,320
the only time I had better seats
than Spike. 

2085
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:12,040
For a great shot. 
I get Spike on I got a funny 

2086
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:14,120
Spike story for you. 
Then I'll then I'll I'll start 

2087
01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:17,840
to wrap it up. 
Want to hear a good one about 

2088
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:20,200
Spike? 
Yeah, lay it, lay it down, all. 

2089
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:22,080
Right, All right, We're going to
get Spike on the show. 

2090
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:24,480
It's funny, I was talking to Jen
last night, you know, about the 

2091
01:40:24,480 --> 01:40:28,400
guest list, like, you know, Alex
and Boone and Pitino and Michael

2092
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:32,120
Kay and La Greca. 
Obviously Stephen A once the I 

2093
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:33,720
know it's getting I'm I'm 
getting tired of saying it. 

2094
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:36,400
Once the studio set up. 
You guys know this feel. 

2095
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:39,920
So anyway, I'm doing a show at 
10:50. 

2096
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:42,920
I forget the year and I'm doing 
a night show. 

2097
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:47,440
I think this was after I was 
done working. 

2098
01:40:47,440 --> 01:40:51,240
Yes, I was no longer with 
Stephen and management comes to 

2099
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:53,200
me and they say, hey, listen, 
you know, it's always going to 

2100
01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:56,120
be Steven's show because he's 
like, I get it, you know, I get 

2101
01:40:56,120 --> 01:40:58,600
it. 
I understand they said, but we 

2102
01:40:58,600 --> 01:40:59,480
think it's time for your own 
show. 

2103
01:40:59,480 --> 01:41:01,360
So but we're going to give you 
the option. 

2104
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:04,680
Do you want to leave Steven and 
you know, still contribute to 

2105
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:07,920
the show, but the Steven A Smith
show or do you want, you know, 

2106
01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:10,400
BT show at night from like 7 to 
midnight? 

2107
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:13,080
And I remember I'm like, I want 
my own show. 

2108
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:14,840
But I remember talking to him 
about he's like, you have to 

2109
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:17,000
take your own show. 
And I was gonna do that anyway. 

2110
01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:19,520
But I just wanted, you know, 
older, wiser, more entrenched in

2111
01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:20,920
the business. 
I wanted his opinion on it. 

2112
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:24,800
So I'm doing the night show and 
the Knicks are playing the 

2113
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:28,240
Cavaliers. 
And I was doing at this point 

2114
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:31,200
also doing pre post in half for 
the Knicks on the radio. 

2115
01:41:31,480 --> 01:41:35,400
So I would do I would literally 
I would take the like game would

2116
01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:37,080
end. 
Gus Johnson and John Andreas, 

2117
01:41:37,080 --> 01:41:39,480
rest in peace. 
John would do the would would 

2118
01:41:39,480 --> 01:41:41,320
finish up. 
That's the final from the and 

2119
01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:42,960
Knicks always lost every game 
from the Garden. 

2120
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:46,680
Knicks, Knicks lose by 13. 
Now coming up next Brandon, it's

2121
01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:49,040
here near the post game show. 
So then it would have to be like

2122
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:51,760
this really quick hand off like 
Gus would take off his headsets.

2123
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:53,720
I would put mine on. 
You'd hear bumper music and I'd 

2124
01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:57,200
start the pre game or the post 
game that was. 

2125
01:41:57,320 --> 01:42:00,520
But then something happened 
where this one particular night 

2126
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:02,640
there was some issue where I 
couldn't do it from the booth 

2127
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:05,960
and I had a run back up to the 
studio, which was A2 pen, which 

2128
01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:10,640
is where the garden is. 
So my OK, so I run up right and 

2129
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:13,800
I get on the air and LeBron, I 
think LeBron may have scored 60.

2130
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:16,320
Can you double check if he ever 
scored sixty? 

2131
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:18,600
I know Kobe did. 
Did he ever score 60 against the

2132
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:19,400
Knicks? 
Can you just at the? 

2133
01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:21,520
Garden. 
Yes, definitely at the Garden. 

2134
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:24,120
It was a massive LeBron. 
Prime LeBron. 

2135
01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:27,000
Crazy explosion night. 
I thought he had 60. 

2136
01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:28,720
It may be in the high 50s. 
Or something. 

2137
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:33,480
Let's see it. 
Just yeah. 52 points, 11 

2138
01:42:33,480 --> 01:42:37,440
assists, 9 rebounds, 2009. 
OK, that makes sense. 

2139
01:42:37,480 --> 01:42:41,200
That that makes sense. 
So anyway, I run up, start the 

2140
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:43,760
show, taking calls, you know, 
laying out the show, doing what 

2141
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:47,120
I'm doing. 
And after I finish up the post 

2142
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:49,440
game show, I would actually get 
into my show, right? 

2143
01:42:49,440 --> 01:42:50,920
That's how it would work when 
the Knicks would play. 

2144
01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:52,440
So I'm doing the night shows 
now. 

2145
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:56,680
So my producer, John, who now 
runs 880 ESPN, John Winthrop, 

2146
01:42:56,680 --> 01:42:58,400
good guy, He was my producer at 
that point. 

2147
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:02,040
He goes in my ear, he goes, hey,
he goes Spike Lee's on the 

2148
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:04,480
phone. 
He's like, he sounds pissed. 

2149
01:43:04,480 --> 01:43:09,440
I go put him on. 
OK, whatever he was. 

2150
01:43:09,440 --> 01:43:11,200
Yeah, but I don't really know if
it's him I want. 

2151
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:14,560
I just put him on. 
Like in my mind, when somebody 

2152
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:18,040
calls up, that happens once in a
while and like one of two things

2153
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:20,000
is going to happen. 
It's either going to be the 

2154
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:22,600
person that they say they are 
and I'm going to have an A 

2155
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:23,800
Lister on my show. 
We're going to have a good 

2156
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:26,280
conversation, even if he's 
pissed, or it's going to be some

2157
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:28,040
dope who's pretending to be 
somebody. 

2158
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:29,440
And it's hilarious and it's 
hilarious. 

2159
01:43:29,440 --> 01:43:31,200
I'm going to eventually mock and
eviscerate. 

2160
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:32,560
I'm going to turn it into a fun 
segment. 

2161
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:34,320
So whichever way it is, it's 
fine. 

2162
01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:38,120
Get him on. 
So we put some on and he's not 

2163
01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:40,280
yelling. 
But I guess evidently what I was

2164
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:43,120
saying was I was pissed at Spike
that night, I guess. 

2165
01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:44,920
Do you have the final? 
Was it a close game? 

2166
01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:46,480
I think it was close. 
It. 

2167
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:50,120
Was, I think it was a close 
game. 

2168
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:53,320
So I was worked up over it. 
It was O 9. 

2169
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:58,520
The Knicks were oh God, I 
thought it was a close game. 

2170
01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:00,560
I could be off 1. 
O71-O2 Very. 

2171
01:44:00,680 --> 01:44:01,720
Close. 
Thank you. 

2172
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:04,760
So I'm pissed off because the 
whole number one, the Knicks 

2173
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:09,880
lost and the whole game, Spike 
is woofing with LeBron just like

2174
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:11,800
it would do with Kobe and 
Reggie. 

2175
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:16,080
And because I'm just a pissed 
off unhappy Knick fan, I'm 

2176
01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:19,080
lacing into Spike because I'm 
blaming Spike for his theatrics.

2177
01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:25,000
It can't possibly be the fact, 
even though GOAT Jordan's the 

2178
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:27,320
GOAT and you know, LeBron can't 
shine his shoes, LeBron is 

2179
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:30,800
amazing, you know, So it can't 
possibly be the fact that LeBron

2180
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:34,120
James is some basketball God. 
It's got to be I, I have to have

2181
01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:35,160
I. 
Riled him up. 

2182
01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:37,760
You know, yeah, ride them up. 
I got to have some different 

2183
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:38,960
target. 
I got to I got to attack 

2184
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:41,400
somebody. 
So I start attacking Spike Lee, 

2185
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:43,720
right? 
And I just better Spike. 

2186
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:46,400
Enough for the like he couldn't 
curse, but like enough for the 

2187
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:48,200
nonsense. 
Stop making it about you. 

2188
01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:50,000
You did it with Reggie. 
You did it with Kobe. 

2189
01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:51,600
Enough for this stuff. 
We're not good enough. 

2190
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:53,200
Shut. 
I don't know if I said shut, but

2191
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:54,920
I'm going. 
I'm going in pretty good. 

2192
01:44:55,440 --> 01:44:58,240
Anyway, it was Spike. 
He comes on the air. 

2193
01:44:58,520 --> 01:44:59,840
He's like, why are you blaming 
me, man? 

2194
01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:02,240
So it was, it was kind of he 
doesn't have that real 

2195
01:45:02,240 --> 01:45:04,680
aggressive, loud voice. 
It's more like when he's 

2196
01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:07,720
unhappy, it'll be more. 
It'll be presented differently 

2197
01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:09,280
than some lunatic. 
Yeah. 

2198
01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:12,480
So it didn't get off the rails 
right away, but I held my 

2199
01:45:12,480 --> 01:45:13,960
ground. 
Like, dude, you do this all the 

2200
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:15,960
time, Spike. 
And it's part of the reason why 

2201
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:18,680
we're losing, you know? 
You know, these guys are coming 

2202
01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:20,240
into the garden to put on a 
show. 

2203
01:45:20,440 --> 01:45:22,160
You're not making it better. 
Just stop. 

2204
01:45:22,440 --> 01:45:24,240
You're destroying us. 
And I, you know, of course, I 

2205
01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:26,880
had to back up my point. 
And then we talked for a while. 

2206
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:30,440
We flushed it out. 
And then ironically, you know, I

2207
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:31,880
saw I saw them a few times after
that. 

2208
01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:32,920
Always cool. 
DAP them up. 

2209
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:34,680
So I'm of the St. 
John's game last year. 

2210
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:36,720
And then I saw them to the 
airport last year and he 

2211
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:38,080
actually, I didn't even 
recognize me. 

2212
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:40,320
He recognized me like I I was, I
was doing something else. 

2213
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:42,440
And he comes over, I'm like, yo,
what's up, Spike? 

2214
01:45:42,440 --> 01:45:45,040
I introduced him to my son, my 
wife, my daughter. 

2215
01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:46,760
They were getting the tickets or
whatever they were doing. 

2216
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:49,600
Good guy. 
So I'm down to have Spike on the

2217
01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:51,520
show at some point. 
All right, let me wrap it up. 

2218
01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:55,000
Cool wait also the spiky would 
be awesome. 

2219
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:59,840
I was I was like ATV film major 
in college so would love to also

2220
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:02,920
just hear you and him get into 
the weeds on some movie stuff 

2221
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:04,160
too. 
I think that would be really 

2222
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:06,000
cool. 
Yeah, I know there's so much to 

2223
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:08,040
talk about with Spiky, but I've 
got a lot of respect for him. 

2224
01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:12,560
And I actually read his book and
there's years and years and 

2225
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:15,040
years ago books got to be 20 
something years old. 

2226
01:46:15,480 --> 01:46:17,760
And and I remember it was it was
pretty cool. 

2227
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:20,480
You know, coming up Brownsville,
you know, not having a lot like 

2228
01:46:20,480 --> 01:46:23,280
when he made his first real 
dime, if you will, in the 

2229
01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:25,160
industry, bought next season 
tickets. 

2230
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:27,280
Wow. 
He did like and you know, he 

2231
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:29,840
wasn't on the floor yet, but he 
got pretty good ones and then 

2232
01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:34,640
eventually start cranking out 
these great movies and and he's 

2233
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:36,720
been sitting there forever. 
You have a favorite one. 

2234
01:46:36,720 --> 01:46:38,200
Is it do the right thing? 
What do you got? 

2235
01:46:38,520 --> 01:46:40,800
Do the right thing or he's got 
game. 

2236
01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:44,280
He's got game was great. 
He's got game is so good really.

2237
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:46,320
I agree. 
I I think that's my pick. 

2238
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:49,280
Obviously that's a great one. 
Can't argue with its objective 

2239
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:51,120
anyway. 
But to me, Do the Right Thing 

2240
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:53,360
was awesome because that's what 
80s Brooklyn was like. 

2241
01:46:53,440 --> 01:46:55,320
Like that. 
That's what that's what 80s New 

2242
01:46:55,320 --> 01:46:57,320
York was like. 
The music. 

2243
01:46:57,320 --> 01:46:59,840
It was kind of a Mets town at 
that point with Doc and that 

2244
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:03,160
team that won an 86. 
It was reflected in the jerseys 

2245
01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:05,200
and the posters that they were. 
And that's the other thing that 

2246
01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:08,000
spike, it's mad at me a little 
bit about like, you know, he's a

2247
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:11,520
little front runner. 
I he's he's not with the Knicks.

2248
01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:13,440
See a Yankee fan. 
Yankees don't win a 

2249
01:47:13,440 --> 01:47:14,880
championship. 
Suddenly he's sitting at the 

2250
01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:17,040
home plate next to the former 
mayor Giuliani. 

2251
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:19,680
You know, is he a Jets fan? 
Rex Ryan, they're good. 

2252
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:22,400
He's got a jet starter jacket 
Giants and go like, I don't I 

2253
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:24,600
know the Knicks are legitimately
his his team. 

2254
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:27,520
I would never knock him on that.
The other teams I'm not sure 

2255
01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:28,920
about. 
So maybe we'll flush that out on

2256
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:32,560
the on the show as well. 
All right, man, All right. 

2257
01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:34,400
Anything else you got to add 
before we bounce here? 

2258
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:36,160
A lot of good comments, a lot of
good stuff today. 

2259
01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:39,840
Nothing else but great stuff. 
Thank you Unleash fam for the 

2260
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:42,880
continued support. 
Hype the vid up if you've got 

2261
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:46,360
some hypes left this week and 
toss a like toss a sub. 

2262
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:49,120
Let's keep this train rolling. 
Yeah, no doubt. 

2263
01:47:49,480 --> 01:47:52,640
I see a text about the the 
Bushwhackers, like see guys like

2264
01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:54,400
that. 
Those are the old wrestlers that

2265
01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:57,160
those guys were corny. 
I mean they come in like this, 

2266
01:47:57,160 --> 01:47:59,880
like they're from the Outback 
and they got like 5 teeth and 

2267
01:47:59,880 --> 01:48:03,160
they're all tatted up and 
they're just, I don't know. 

2268
01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:06,080
There were so many tag teams. 
I was never a huge tag team fan 

2269
01:48:06,440 --> 01:48:10,120
unless it was like a, you know, 
like a a match where you know, 

2270
01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:16,280
you got like Orendorf and you 
know, Piper and Hogan and T like

2271
01:48:16,440 --> 01:48:19,040
when there's real friction. 
I don't know, the tag teams 

2272
01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:21,120
always kind of bored me and 
there were some really good tag 

2273
01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:23,120
teams out there. 
Didn't really get too excited. 

2274
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:25,760
But the Bushwhackers I thought 
were just corny and no 

2275
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:27,920
disrespect to the Bushwhackers. 
I just thought they were corny. 

2276
01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:30,760
All right, let me let me roll. 
Got a lot to do here today. 

2277
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:32,400
Appreciate you guys. 
Hit me up on the text. 

2278
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:34,320
Thank you very much, J Rod, good
work out of you. 

2279
01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:38,040
Back tomorrow with 10. 
Probably find a little baseball 

2280
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:40,080
content for tomorrow. 
Get that appetite going. 

2281
01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:42,680
Football's over, which means 
baseball is upon us here. 

2282
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:45,560
Anytime we can get some mix or 
some good NBA content in, we 

2283
01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:48,760
will like it, subscribe it, get 
the word out there. 

2284
01:48:49,480 --> 01:48:51,360
When I started doing as well, I 
started posting these to 

2285
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:53,040
Instagram. 
It's crazy too. 

2286
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:54,320
I just I just started doing 
this. 

2287
01:48:54,320 --> 01:48:56,360
Let me give you a real, real 
quick. 

2288
01:48:56,680 --> 01:49:00,600
I hit I hit J Rod up with this 
and give you a quick update. 

2289
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:02,880
So I'm like, yeah, you know 
what, I may as well start 

2290
01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:04,560
bumping these out to to 
Instagram. 

2291
01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:08,000
So the one about Belichick from 
yesterday. 

2292
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:09,400
I mean, come on, get a backbone,
dude. 

2293
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:11,960
Tell your girl what she 
shouldn't wear when she's 

2294
01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:14,600
wearing, you know, something 
about the prostitution ring 

2295
01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:17,560
about craft. 
Give me a break 18,000 views. 

2296
01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:21,120
I mean it's crazy. 
The Mets one got about 15 or 

2297
01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:23,920
16,000 views. 
So we now put those up. 

2298
01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:26,240
I upload them. 
J Rod sends me after he gets the

2299
01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:28,840
shorts up on YouTube and I get 
them to Instagram as well. 

2300
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:31,400
So I don't know that I'll do 
that on Facebook with any sort 

2301
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:32,960
of regularity. 
That's more, you know, private 

2302
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:35,760
stuff, more family friend stuff,
but definitely on Instagram. 

2303
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:39,360
So have an awesome, awesome rest
of your Tuesday tomorrow at 10. 

2304
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:42,480
Like it, hype it, sub it, send 
it out and I'll catch you guys 

2305
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:44,480
tomorrow right here on unleash. 
We'll see ya.