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You listening? 
Well, I know everybody's worked 

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up over the Yankees. 
Yankees state. 

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Well, everybody relax about the 
Yankees. 

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Please just relax. 
What's going on? 

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Everybody beats unleashed in the
house on this Tuesday. 

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Let's go. 
J Rod is here. 

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We got a big show for you little
housekeeping before we jump into

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it. 
Lot of Yankees, a little Mets, a

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little Pistons, Cavs, a lot of 
NFL schedule stuff and something

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on LeBron as well. 
Now tomorrow, first up, Yankees 

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manager Aaron Boone will come by
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It's going to be a blast to 10th
or why Hope it's a blast. 

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I know he's coming by. 
Maybe I shouldn't say it's going

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to be a blast. 
I mean, can you get can you bag 

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a win before Booney comes on the
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I mean, come on, man. 
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answer the questions no matter 
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straight or they lose five 
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But can you mix into West? 
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that is tomorrow. 
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So we'll do a little early State
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only we'll do this with the 
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So that's tomorrow. 
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NFL schedule is going to drop. 
And we'll do this on the on The 

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Jets collective as soon as it 
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We will jump right on YouTube. 
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Rich Samini and we'll break it 
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Do they open up in Tennessee? 
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I I that that's kind of the 
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But either way, we will get into
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We're not going to necessarily 
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you know, win, loss, win, but 
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around and give you our initial 
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The good matchups, whatever is 
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I don't know how many prime time
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My hope is that it's not many 
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when my team has been, you know,
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better this year. 
Jeez, if they're not better this

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year, then it's probably 
hopeless. 

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But you know, when, when my team
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to rise from the dead, I prefer 
to do it in anonymity. 

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Let's just get, you know, But 
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and Romo. 
Give us the C team. 

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Give us the D team. 
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most of the NFL world is not 
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So we got a lot of great things 
coming up on the show. 

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Hopefully everybody's having a 
great day. 

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J Rod, What's cooking, brother? 
How are you today? 

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Good, good, good. 
How are you today? 

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You. 
Know. 

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I got to say, I know we'll we'll
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say I was, I was off with my 
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yesterday. 
I was way off, you know, I 

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called the Harden game, I guess 
the next game. 

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But now listen, the rest of my 
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scrambled. 
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predictions are worth a dime a 
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What do they really mean at the 
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But it does obviously help out 
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a little bit later. 
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What the Cavs were doing 
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giving up the butt. 
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well. 
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All right, let's start with the 
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I mean, listen, guys. 
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you squander leads like they did
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in Milwaukee, when you squander 
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kid, it really just looks bad. 
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but when when you're not 
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I mean, really, outside of Ben 
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back in the house as well. 
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little worse than it really is. 
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the Yankees. 
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everybody to start striking up 
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Yankees don't have it. 
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anything done. 
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I believe that this Yankees 
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the best in baseball. 
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come back and when when well, I 
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I don't know what the bullpens 
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with that. 
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the reasons for my optimism here
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to be fair, once the season 
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weathers and I knew the Cam 
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through a sophomore slump. 
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what I thought the Yankees could
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lineup. 
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what you see now is is not what 
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It's just not. 
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ask Boone this tomorrow. 
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I'll ask him. 
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I think that Bednar is going to 
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and I do I I think that that's 
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I don't like him as the closer. 
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if you try to win a 
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OK, I'm not saying he's the main
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more lockdown there on the back 
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And and Bednar just walks that 
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You watch him, I watch and we 
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He's fine and sometimes he's 
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I think he'd be great as a setup
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So listen, I don't know, I 
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yesterday about Weathers. 
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this guy who has not been a 
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He had he had injuries in Miami 
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the zone now. 
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when he's healthy as well. 
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Look at Weathers as a possible 
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I, I don't know, Clark Schmidt 
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season. 
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a will Warren going to the 
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some sort of variation is going 
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change the the back end of the 
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high leverage arm. 
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last night was very, I mean, you
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hitter. 
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my son and my daughter's game. 
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the game on the radio a little 
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And I, I knew that Rice hit the 
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a no, no here. 
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down, basically get the base hit
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But that's a game you got to 
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Obviously, Yankees are dragging 
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But like, it just big picture 
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It really, it's so predictable. 
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this was coming. 
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bit over the weekend, you know, 
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I'm not calling you guys out 

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because the Yankees have not won
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Understood. 
So there's a lot of angst and 

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there's a lot of energy and 
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that this team's been built the 
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I don't think it's the same team
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We still have a lot of baseball 
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don't, I don't know what's going
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I don't know what's going to 
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I don't know what's going to 
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hitting into some very bad luck 
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He's absolutely stinging the 
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And you know, you lift up the 
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the numbers are really good. 
I'm not talking about batting 

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averages, but like expected 
batting average and expected OPS

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balls in play. 
Like he's been penalized. 

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He's hit a lot of rockets at 
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And you know that Lombard could 
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second base shortstop or third 
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I don't know if he's going to be
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I believe that he will, but I 

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don't know that for sure. 
You got to earn it. 

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You don't want to rush him. 
But there's options here. 

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Guys. 
You have to understand that the 

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biggest problem with the Yankees
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Now get to Austin Wells in a 
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How the Yankees don't have a 
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roster. 
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here. 
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to Jazz Chisholm, who is just 
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And I remember he said it on 
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He starts talking about 50 home 
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million contract. 
That was on the 19th. 

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And J Rod, can you pop that 
tweet up for me please on that? 

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Look at him. 
He's on top of it today, baby, 

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on the 20th the next day. 
Here's what I wrote. 

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Jazz already strikes out too 
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What's that number going to turn
into chasing 50 bombs all year? 

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Well, I'll give you the short 
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Now, there's a lot of baseball 
to go, and he's not going to hit

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2:04 this year and he's going to
run into some home runs. 

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I understand that. 
And he's already got a ton of 

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stolen bases. 
But the strikeouts, he's on pace

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for his career high. 
He's on pace for about 185 right

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now. 
I mean, yeah, it's just it's 

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unacceptable. 
And and the thing about Jazz 

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Chisholm, which is why I want 
nothing to do with Jazz 

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Chisholm, I really don't want 
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I've told you going back over a 
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that I was told by the Yankees 
that there's no way he's going 

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to get contract extension. 
There's no way. 

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I remember we're talking to Alex
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know, a couple of times and he's
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but he's just not reliable. 
And he's not, I mean, he's just 

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he's in space. 
He's either in space on the on 

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defense, he's on space on the 
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And the problem with, and I, you
knew this was going to happen as

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soon as he said what he said 
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His entire mindset shifts when 
you're chasing 50 and you're not

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a natural, you know, 354040 plus
home run guy like a judge, like 

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an Alonzo, guys like an Otani. 
Well, what do you do now? 

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You got to kind of get gearing 
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gear up a little bit and try to 
do something that is not within 

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your natural skill set, your 
mechanics just collapse. 

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When your mechanics collapse, 
that leads to empty at bats and 

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looking at fastballs right down 
the middle and swinging like 

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you're a skinny Babe Ruth or 
Reggie Jackson and it's just not

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going to work out. 
So, you know, I don't know, I'll

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give you a couple of options 
here. 

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Like if you asked me right now, 
if you said OK, would you rather

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have Caballero with sure, I know
he's got the finger now, but 

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he's going to be fine. 
Would I rather have Caballero 

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with shortstop and Volpe at 
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Jazz at second base? 
My answer would be yes. 

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I could see why you would push 
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low on base got we we know 
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got he's not even hitting in the
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So that's a little ambitious, 
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would be locked in. 
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Jazz. 
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unreliable. 
All right, So that would be one 

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option. 
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know, if Lombard really these 
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numbers get to a point where I 
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minors. 
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but maybe in a month or two. 
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Lombard's at shortstop and 
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Yup, and I would prefer that 
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every night. 
Can I envision a situation where

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maybe, but make listen back to 
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It's probably not realistic to 
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mess around with a position 
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this guy's trying to figure it 
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And I get that that that might 
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be a little bit reckless. 
So maybe the move would be Volpe

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at shortstop and Caballero at 
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Volpe at short and Lombard at 
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of second in the minors. 
And you stick with McMahon at 

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third base, maybe except against
tough lefties. 

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Rosario plays McMahon swinging 
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I think it's just you. 
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You can't have this guy in the 
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be. 
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championship lineup. 
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they've got a couple of 
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But I'm going to stop sure of 
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lineup. 
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plays, the more he's exposed and
the deeper the season gets and 

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the average hovers around 200 
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I'm chasing big money. 
I got to get the bag. 

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I said that I was going to hit 
fifty home runs. 

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I got to really start selling 
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doing that as a golfer, pardon 
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baseball player, as a golfer, 
what in the world was that? 

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As a baseball player, you are 
cooked. 

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You are mentally broken. 
You are physically broken. 

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And by the way, the reason why I
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it's kind of like somebody who 
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you just know like and he knows 
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putter. 
There's just something off and, 

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you know, doesn't roll balls, 
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well, not reading the greens 
well, not seeing things the way 

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you need to see things in a 
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nine on a Sunday. 
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don't care what great golfer 
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point that's going to infiltrate
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very, you know, up and down kind
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sport. 
And baseball is very up and down

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and baseball is very much a 
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The problem with Jazz, though, 
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to want to change. 
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example. 
So last night, last night, like 

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the Yanks are up to zip Ben Rice
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looked phenomenal again, right? 
So Judge has a double, Judge 

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leads off the double, Bellinger 
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base productive out. 
Judge goes over to third base. 

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Now, these are the tack on runs 
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These are the things that define
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going to ultimately win 
championships. 

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And there's other components, of
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You need the starting pitching. 
You need the bullpen. 

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Got to catch the ball, got to 
run. 

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I know that. 
But those extra tack on runs are

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paramount to any team that's 
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significance. 
And what does Jazz Chisholm do? 

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Well, he does what he always 
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He abandons the situation and he
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he's swinging from the heels and
he's letting good pitches go and

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he's expanding the zone and he's
just his front shoulders flying 

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out because he's trying to Jack 
one. 

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And it's a big problem. 
It is a big, big problem. 

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He's hitting 200. 
He's got a 600 OPS and he's on 

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pace for the most strikeouts 
he's ever had in his career. 

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So you know, to me, when I tell 
the Yankee fans you got to relax

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a little bit, I mean it. 
I it's too early. 

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They've looked too good at at 
most points outside of that when

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they lost five straight and the 
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that was. 
And then the Yankees quickly 

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course corrected. 
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And then the Yankees went on 
this crazy role. 

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And you know, I did a couple of 
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this like, I believe that the 
Yankees have the DNA to win big.

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I believe that this group of 
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losing, which is a 
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have to have. 
I was not saying they're going 

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to win the World Series, but I'm
just saying relax. 

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Like, everybody's got to just 
tap the brakes a little bit. 

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But what can't be tapped is the 
unless you're tapping the gas. 

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To move on from Jazz, the 
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look themselves in the mirror at
some point. 

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But today, not next week, maybe 
not even month, next month. 

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How far do they want to run this
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being a focal point of this 
team? 

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I'll tell you something else. 
I don't know how long he's here 

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talking about Spencer Jones. 
I don't know, you know, when 

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Stanton's going to start running
again. 

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I don't really know what the 
Ming is. 

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I know he's on the 10 day IL, 
but I'm not really sure when 

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he's going to come back. 
Whatever. 

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Nor do I know what the Yankees 
plans would be for Jack for for 

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Dominguez. 
What he does come back. 

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But you it's it's a small 
sample, but you watch Spencer 

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Jones play center field and you 
watch Trent Grisham play center 

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field. 
Don't tell me that Trent Grisham

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is a better defensive center 
fielder. 

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I don't think that he is. 
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just banish him as well. 
I'm not, you know, getting on 

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the air today saying get rid of 
Jazz, get rid of Trent. 

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Although I did say that during 
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consistent with my thought 
process about the Yankees. 

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So they've lost four straight. 
They have taken absolute 

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starting gems and flushed them 
down the chute. 

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And not just this is the point, 
not just because of the bullpen,

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because of their inability to 
tack on with situational 

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hitting. 
I mean, I, I know, I know that 

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it there's no real glory in 
lofting a little, you know, 

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moderately shallow fly bolt to 
center field or left field. 

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But to do that, you've got to 
commit to keep as a lefty that 

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front shoulder in and not 
selling out because you said 

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you're going to hit fifty home 
runs. 

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And that is a byproduct of a 
couple of things. 

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He put incredible, incredible 
pressure on himself by saying 

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that. 
And it's one thing to be 

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confident and, and I do like 
jazz's confidence and and I do 

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like the the like, let's not get
this twisted because one thing, 

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I'm just going to be honest with
you guys. 

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I don't know if it's a race 
thing. 

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I don't know what it is, but I 
feel like a lot of the times 

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that we talk about jazz, people 
kind of hear different stuff, 

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understand what I'm saying. 
I actually love the the, the, 

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the, the edge, the swag that he 
brings to the team. 

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And I've said for many years, I 
think the Yankees have been far 

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too corporate. 
You know, I mean, when I wear my

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hat that way, no, But I'm also 
not, you know, 26 years old. 

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So I get it. 
And CC had the tilt and some 

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other, you know, Dodge rail. 
Willis, Hey, swag out. 

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Do what you got to do. 
But the production's got to be 

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there and the night tonight, 
reliability's got to be there. 

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And I don't care if you run like
Ricky Henderson, if you're not 

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reliably on bass, you know, and 
I don't care if you wind up 

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hitting 30 something home runs 
and, and blow by 3030, which if 

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he hits thirty home runs, he 
absolutely would blow by 30, you

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know, steals cuz he's probably 
gonna have 40 already has about 

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14, whatever it might be. 
I don't care about that. 

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I care about when you were in 
that when it's time to win, when

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it's time to take that that 
final nail and stick it in the 

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coffin and hammer them and put 
another team in the ground. 

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Whether it's an early ish 
mid-May or late October against 

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the Dodgers or whomever else you
might be facing if you get to 

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the World Series or whomever you
would face in the postseason, 

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the American League. 
You just can't flush those at 

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bats down the shoot. 
And you really think that 

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there's going to be some sudden 
and I'm going to ask Aaron Boot 

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about like I am going to really 
get into Jazz Chisholm tomorrow.

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Like I think it's going to be 
really interesting. 

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What is the plan for Volpe? 
I mean, if, if he hits 240 and 

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for the next month if they going
to call him up. 

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I, I doubt it. 
I mean, are they waiting for him

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to get hot? 
I I don't know, I, I how willing

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are they to to and this would be
an organizational things. 

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I don't know how much Aaron 
would really be able to answer 

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this. 
But because it's going to be a 

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group thing and it should be 
when you talking about your top 

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prospect, at what point if he 
continues to barrel the ball 

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because we know he could defend 
and run. 

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Is Lombard getting a look up 
here? 

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Like there are variables here 
that that I think will will 

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ultimately favorably alter the 
Yankee trajectory. 

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But I get it. 
You know, this is baseball in 

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New York, Susan, and you know, 
we we want to go nuts. 

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Now. 
You want to go nuts, go nuts 

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about the Mets, who are 15 and 
25 and look like absolute trash.

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I mean, that's a team that you 
can you want to let it RIP. 

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It's not too early to you know, 
whether you want to bury the 

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Mets or crush the Mets that. 
But let's let's have at least a 

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little perspective, just a 
little bit, guys, a little bit 

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little perspective here where we
all know the Yankees will be a 

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playoff team. 
And you should know by now that 

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the team that you see in May is 
not going to be the team that 

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you see with certain spots in 
October. 

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And if you can compartmentalize 
that, you could probably deal 

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with a loss like last night and 
even what transpired over the 

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weekend in Milwaukee with a 
little bit more clarity and a 

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little bit more calmness, right?
If you don't see that and you 

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get, you know that well, then 
you going to be a little 

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irrational. 
And that's fine. 

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Like Yankee fans up. 
You know, I I said, I told 

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everybody to relax. 
But you do what you want to do. 

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You do you be you. 
I'm just telling we've seen this

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enough. 
We have seen enough baseball to 

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understand that a three or a 
four or even A5 game losing 

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streak in May is not the end of 
the world. 

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OK, Ben Rice didn't get in a bat
in Milwaukee. 

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Ben Rice comes back boom two run
off O laser. 

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So you got your stud hitter back
along with Judge and Beldy's 

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been on a heater. 
Yankees offense will be fine. 

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They're going to blast home 
runs. 

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They're starting pitching is 
phenomenal and they're going to 

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make tweaks. 
Now, do I love the way Boone use

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the bullpen over the weekend? 
Nope, I don't. 

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I said that yesterday. 
I'll bring up some questions 

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tomorrow that I have about about
usage here. 

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But I just don't think Bednar is
the closer and some of these 

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studs who were throwing really 
quality starts, start after 

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start after start are going to 
be in the bullpen, which is 

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going to rearrange and not just 
like, you know. 

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So moving a chair on the 
Titanic, I think it's going to 

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be effective. 
So I'm good, Like, I'm fine 

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where the Yankees are. 
I don't like losing and I don't 

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like losing the way they lost 
last night. 

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But it's a long season. 
They're not perfect. 

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Nobody is relaxed. 
All right, J Rod, today's show. 

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As always, let's give a shout 
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I mean, but Jazz is the one that

450
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,440
just drives me nuts. 
He does. 

451
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,840
And depending upon when you 
watch Jazz, right, you've got 

452
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,840
you've got conflicting opinions.
Nobody doubts the talent. 

453
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,560
But one thing that I've said, 
especially about a baseball 

454
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,320
player, right, when you are, you
know, X amount of years, and I 

455
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,280
mean, two or three. 
That's why, you know, I'll give 

456
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,640
a little glimmer of hope that 
Volpe can expand this game a 

457
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,000
little bit. 
Same with Dominguez, you know, 

458
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,120
ironically, you know, he can't 
catch a fly ball in the 

459
00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:20,520
outfield. 
He makes a great play. 

460
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,720
He gets hurt. 
Like that's why I never buried 

461
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,800
Dominguez. 
I never fully buried Anthony 

462
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,800
Volpe. 
But a guy like Jazz Chisholm is 

463
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,960
not going to change. 
He's just not going to change. 

464
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,160
A guy like John Carr and you 
know, all respect to Big G, but 

465
00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:35,520
he's not going to change. 
Even the great average judge is 

466
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,160
not going to change. 
You are what you are. 

467
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,600
Now, Ryan McMahon has changed a 
little bit, but Ryan McMahon 

468
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,640
also had a couple of good early 
seasons in Colorado. 

469
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,600
And you're not, you're not 
relying on on Ryan McMahon like 

470
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,840
you're relying on Jazz Chisholm.
Like Jazz going to hit fifth, 

471
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,160
Jazz going to hit 6, McMahon's 
going to hit ninth. 

472
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,080
He's going hit 8th or 9th. 
So it's a different level of 

473
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:01,440
responsibility and I, I just, 
again, I'm, I'm just a staunch 

474
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,480
believer when there's X amount 
of it bats, when there's enough 

475
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,240
evidence as a hitter. 
Now, I think as a pitcher, I 

476
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,920
think it's a little different. 
You can discover a new pitch. 

477
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,000
You can come back with a cutter 
like you can just, you know, and

478
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,480
if this happens a lot, you could
just be throwing during the 

479
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,440
offseason. 
You alter your grip and all of a

480
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,360
sudden you got 789 more inches, 
vertical break, horizontal 

481
00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:23,960
break, whatever it might be. 
And now you incorporate this 

482
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,680
into the repertoire and it makes
the other stuff which was 

483
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,160
getting hit little bit more 
effective, which could lead to a

484
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:35,040
more effective pitcher. 
But if you're a hitter and you 

485
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:39,280
have a propensity to always 
swing from the heels, you're not

486
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,480
like Jazz does. 
You're not going to change your 

487
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,840
approach. 
It's not going to happen. 

488
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,280
Yes, you're going to have a hot 
streak because you're incredibly

489
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,280
talented. 
But when you need him, you know,

490
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,360
man on 3rd down a run, lift the 
fly ball of the outfield. 

491
00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:55,800
Stop selling out to try to be a 
hero with A2 run Jack to the 

492
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,760
moon. 
Just put the bat on the ball, 

493
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,600
roll, you know, roll it over to 
second base, little ground ball,

494
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,800
get him in, move the like. 
These are things that you must 

495
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,240
do and these are things that he 
doesn't do. 

496
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,040
So the Yankees have a Jazz Chism
problem. 

497
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:16,040
Austin Wells is he's I mean, 
it's a little different here. 

498
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,400
He too is relied less upon then,
you know, somebody like like 

499
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,840
Jazz. 
So if he's at the bottom of the 

500
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,400
order and he's got five RBI's, 
which is ridiculous. 

501
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,200
I mean, it's got three home 
runs, He's got five RBI's, dude,

502
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,920
wow. 
You know, and he's always been a

503
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,280
lower average hitter. 
I think he's a a terrific 

504
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,760
defensive catcher. 
He receives the and I know that 

505
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,760
some people don't, you know, 
really care about this, but it 

506
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,400
doesn't matter because there's 
got to be a familiarity and a 

507
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,960
comfort level with starting 
pitch like that matters. 

508
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,880
That relationship matters. 
If there's any position that I'm

509
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,480
willing to sacrifice little 
offense, it's behind the plate 

510
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,840
and it's a shortstop. 
Now, it's not like it was in the

511
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,920
80s with guys like Ozzy Smith 
and all those who was great, you

512
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,680
know, catching the ball. 
But all those 80s and early 90s 

513
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,120
shortstops hitting 2:30 with six
home runs and just bumping. 

514
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,480
I don't I don't you can't really
have too many of those guys 

515
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,960
because it's the modern game is 
about offense and it's about 

516
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,360
launch angle and it's about home
runs and it's about outscoring 

517
00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:15,560
the opposition. 
And if you have, you know, two 

518
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,280
or three dead spots in the order
like too often the Yankees do in

519
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,640
the bottom third, you got some 
problems there. 

520
00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:24,920
But I I think if you were to go 
through, maybe this will make 

521
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,000
maybe maybe this will make you 
feel better. 

522
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,840
Maybe you don't need to feel 
better about the Yankees today, 

523
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,800
right? 
Let me do what you want. 

524
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,760
Process it how you will. 
But you could go through every 

525
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,280
single team, including the 
Dodgers and even including the 

526
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,880
Braves, who look terrific and 
the Rays, who are leading the 

527
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,000
American League East right now. 
And if you would have 

528
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,480
microdissect their roster, like 
just parachute, not that they're

529
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,960
really, you know, no disrespect 
to Tampa radio. 

530
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,400
They've got some good hosts down
there, but they're not, they're 

531
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,800
not, they're not doing what we 
do do with not that this is 

532
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,240
radio either, but you know what 
I mean with the Yankees and the 

533
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,040
Mets, like the level is absurd. 
Like the, the again, the micro 

534
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,480
analysis, it is over the top, 
but that's the way it's always 

535
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,000
going to be because we're a 
baseball town, right? 

536
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,160
And, and I, I really don't think
if the Dodgers lose four or five

537
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,800
in a row or the Padres lose four
or five in a row, that out West 

538
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,960
in, in the beautiful city of San
Diego or out in LA that you're 

539
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,840
going to have, you know, the 
phone lines and all the other 

540
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,880
content, we're going to have 
lunatics. 

541
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,200
I mean, get fired. 
This guy, trade that guy. 

542
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,360
We can't win this level of 
fatality that sets in with the 

543
00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:32,560
Yankees and the Mets. 
Now the Mets have earned a lot 

544
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,040
of that and I'm not pronouncing 
them dead yet. 

545
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:40,560
And I'll get to you in a minute.
But you know, I it's just, if I 

546
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,520
can impress one thing upon you 
today, understand that there's 

547
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,600
one of the first things I said. 
This version of the Yankees is 

548
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,880
not going to be the version that
they run out in October. 

549
00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:55,240
And if it is, they will not win 
the World Series. 

550
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,200
I've got no problem saying that.
It's that simple. 

551
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,680
And if it is and they wanted to 
play the team like the Rays, who

552
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,480
were buttoned up and they catch 
it and they run, you know, I 

553
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:04,960
mean, hold on. 
It's not like the Rays have 

554
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,400
never beaten the Yankees in the 
postseason. 

555
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,120
I don't care what I don't care 
what the payrolls are, what the 

556
00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:11,920
disparity might be. 
Yankees got some work to do. 

557
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,640
And that was part of the issue 
coming into the season. 

558
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,160
We knew the Yankees had work to 
do because you look at the 

559
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,240
final, you know, 334 hitters in 
a lineup, and it's kind of like 

560
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,720
automatic out, automatic out, 
automatic out. 

561
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,440
Jazz is not an automatic out, 
but he's incredibly confounding 

562
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,480
and frustrating, and they rely 
on him to be one of the big 

563
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,840
dogs. 
And it's just not statistically 

564
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,200
reliable enough, not let alone 
emotionally reliable enough. 

565
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,520
So, you know, I mean, I just 
think that and I was, I really, 

566
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,680
I was looking at this before the
start of the show and it's not a

567
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,000
hot take. 
It's just me like closing my 

568
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,760
eyes and envisioning a Yankee 
team with Rice hitting and Judge

569
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,080
hitting and Bellinger hitting. 
Those three guys carrying the 

570
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,800
mail for the offense. 
Obviously Stanton maybe a little

571
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,880
bit against Lefty's when he if 
and when he comes back, 

572
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,920
whatever, you know he's going to
hit some big home runs this 

573
00:26:58,920 --> 00:26:59,880
year. 
We know the deal with him. 

574
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:04,440
But Caballero and Volpe up the 
middle, Caballero and Lombard up

575
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,640
the middle or Caballero and Jazz
or Volpe and Jazz. 

576
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,760
Like to me, the least appealing 
option ironically right now 

577
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,560
would be Volpe at short and Jazz
at 2nd. 

578
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:24,280
The more Fender and all the 
numbers backed us up. 

579
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,760
I don't care what Volbe did with
the Gold Glove back in the day. 

580
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,760
Caballeros is the more electric 
defensive player, better arm, 

581
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,320
better range. 
He's better right. 

582
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,920
So Caballero with short and then
maybe Lombard at second. 

583
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,080
Like there there are things that
you can do. 

584
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:40,120
You got to find a right-handed 
hitting catcher just to kind of 

585
00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:42,320
mix things up. 
You got to hope that McMahon's 

586
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,480
going to, you know what, 
whatever he's on to now, he's 

587
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,040
been swinging the bat real well.
Almost went deep last night off 

588
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,920
the bat. 
I thought that was run and he's 

589
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,160
been on a nice three-week run 
where you know, and they talk 

590
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,960
about this, one of the reasons 
why he's doing better is because

591
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,680
he's letting the ball travel 
deeper. 

592
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,000
And as a hitter, when you do 
that, you're not jumpy when 

593
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,760
you'd like. 
Jazz is jumpy all right. 

594
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,400
When you are jumpy, you're 
trying to crank it. 

595
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,520
You're trying to just yam 1 as a
lefty down the right field line,

596
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,400
right. 
When you let it travel deep, 

597
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,200
you're less susceptible to this.
You know, your shoulders not 

598
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,000
flaring out. 
You go the other way and, you 

599
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,440
know, whether it's a hard hit 
ball the other way or making 

600
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,800
more contact, which could keep 
the carousel going on the bases,

601
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,840
like that's the way the game 
works. 

602
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,240
And Jazz Chisholm has never 
gotten the memo. 

603
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,680
You know, there's a reason why 
now I'm not saying it was the 

604
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,200
healthiest clubhouse ever when 
he was in Miami. 

605
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,720
You know, I know they gave him a
rough time, but I and I do like 

606
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,240
Jazz and I think that the 
Yankees, the players, I think 

607
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,720
that they like Jazz, but you 
know, he's a hot dog and and 

608
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,840
that plays if you're Ricky 
Henderson that don't play when 

609
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,520
you're, you know, a little 
sloppy on in in the field, at 

610
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,520
least intermittently sloppy and 
not really reliable. 

611
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,240
You know, sometimes, even though
you're electric on the bases, 

612
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,760
you fall asleep with with the 
oven Mitt, whatever it might be 

613
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,440
last year at the pop up down in 
Miami on first base. 

614
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,600
I mean, it's just been so many 
examples with the World Series 

615
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,440
blowing bubbles, the balls in 
the infield. 

616
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,640
I don't trust the guy and I 
really don't know why the 

617
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,680
Yankees do. 
I know they don't trust him 

618
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,600
enough to give him that 
contract. 

619
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,000
Like nobody told you that before
me. 

620
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,680
I was the first one to say he 
will not get a contract 

621
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,600
extension with the Yankees and 
he will not. 

622
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,640
Now, the next question is do the
Yankees have the the appetite 

623
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,960
and I don't know the answer to 
this this I don't know. 

624
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,960
I I mean I could I could give 
you a theory and I will I'll 

625
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,960
give you a thought. 
Do the Yankees have the appetite

626
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,040
to roll with this the rest of 
the year when there seems to be 

627
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,240
so much more urgency everywhere 
you look? 

628
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,240
Louis Hill baddest to the 
minors. 

629
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,160
Volpe Nope, you didn't do well 
in AA. 

630
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,120
All right, your your 20 day 
rehab stint is up. 

631
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,080
Not now caballeros playing 
better. 

632
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,480
You could stay in the minors up.
You know what, McMahon? 

633
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,400
Early you're not hitting. 
You're not hit against righties.

634
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,520
We'll go against the data, we'll
go against the numbers, and 

635
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,680
we're going to have Rosario play
against a couple of righties 

636
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,800
rather than just lefties. 
Like the things that they've 

637
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,120
done have been. 
I mean, maybe impressive is the 

638
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,640
wrong word because that's what 
you should do. 

639
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,080
I mean, that that's what I would
do. 

640
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,560
I'm not sitting here saying I'm 
popping champagne for the 

641
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,960
Yankees, doing things that I've 
always wanted them to do. 

642
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,720
But there is much more an 
aversion to like running it back

643
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:20,040
like and and and and being OK 
and putting up with either with 

644
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:26,200
either a substandard performance
statistically or an an emotional

645
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,360
unreliable. 
I know I've used that word too 

646
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,200
much like unreliability. 
And that's the problem. 

647
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,880
That is the problem with the 
Yankees. 

648
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,240
Jay, Do you hear what I'm 
selling out there? 

649
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,240
Jay? 
You know what? 

650
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,160
I'm saying yeah, big time, man. 
No, the chats are the chats are 

651
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,160
popping. 
I've got, I've got one. 

652
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,240
I want to, I want to see you 
respond to. 

653
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,040
Yeah. 
Let's get it up, man. 

654
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,200
Let's go. 
What are we waiting for here? 

655
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,160
All right, I act like Jazz 
Chisholm is a no, I don't act 

656
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,560
like he's a scrub. 
I never once said he was a 

657
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,720
scrub. 
See, the difference is they I 

658
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,280
appreciate that, But no, I I 
don't think he's a scrub, But he

659
00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:01,080
unfortunately, he's not what you
need, you know, if you really 

660
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,720
want to be a championship type 
of team. 

661
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,400
All right, if Jazz was playing 
with Bernie and Tino and Derek 

662
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,800
and Posada, you know, and those 
cats, Ambrosius, sure, I can run

663
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,040
him out. 
I can hide him in there a little

664
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,480
bit and maybe the other stuff 
would rub off on him, you know, 

665
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,480
but let's let's not get it 
twisted. 

666
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,720
I never once said they see, the 
problem is, if I didn't think 

667
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,600
that Jazz Chisholm had immense 
talent, I don't think I'd waste 

668
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,000
a whole lot of time on Jazz 
Chisholm. 

669
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:32,920
The frustration and, and, and 
what's up for I think constant 

670
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,480
dissection and evaluation is 
that we know he has as much 

671
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,320
talent as anybody on the team 
really out outside of Aaron 

672
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,920
Judge. 
You know, he run. 

673
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,720
He's probably the fastest 
Yankee. 

674
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,440
He's got a good arm, you know, 
played a little outfield with 

675
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,360
the Marlins, played a little 
third base here. 

676
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,480
Obviously he's made some great 
plays at second. 

677
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,080
When he hits him, they go, I 
mean, it just fly off his bat 

678
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,120
like he's playing wiffle ball. 
And if you watch the Jazz 

679
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,960
Chisholm highlight reel, you are
utterly impressed. 

680
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,320
You're like, Yep, wow, how many 
All Star teams this guy been on?

681
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,760
I mean, how many top five MVPS 
has this guy had? 

682
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,560
What is he more? 
He's like a more athletic Robbie

683
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,520
Canoe? 
No, he's not because Robinson 

684
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,440
canoe actually understood how to
hit. 

685
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,960
He understood getting it a 
favorable count. 

686
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,080
He understood. 
I just think Robbie, I think 

687
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,240
Robbie Cano's now defensively, 
even though he made great plays,

688
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,640
too, maybe defensively there was
a little bit of an indifference 

689
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,120
there, or a little flighty, a 
little Spacey. 

690
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:37,560
Robinson Cano's offensive 
aptitude and IQ runs laps around

691
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,800
Jazz Chisholm. 
I mean, he can't even figure out

692
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,240
the ABS challenge system. 
I mean, come on, you're in the 

693
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,800
batter's box. 
It's right down the middle, 

694
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,120
tapping your head. 
What, so he doesn't even know 

695
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,320
the strike zone and I don't 
think he's got much of A plan 

696
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,960
because when you see, when you 
have a plan, right? 

697
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,920
And I know, I know it all 
depends on who you're facing and

698
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,000
what's in their repertoire and 
their pitch dependency like, 

699
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,280
and, and I know that they have 
the scatter report and all that 

700
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,280
stuff. 
So I know it's not always the 

701
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,280
same pitcher to pitcher. 
Obviously some guy might have a 

702
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,280
a sinker that's going to bear it
on righties, you know, which is,

703
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,440
which is really tough to hit. 
You know, I've never seen last 

704
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,400
series with the Orioles. 
Pete Alonzo had a real rough 

705
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,400
time with that. 
So it's a nasty pitch to hit. 

706
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,320
That thing's running towards 
your ankles and it it presents 

707
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,000
itself as a fastball and it's 
9790 and it's that hard sinker 

708
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,600
with late action. 
You either have to take it, you 

709
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,120
taking a check swing or you're 
banging one off your ankle or 

710
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,960
you're going to tap one in the 
third base dugout. 

711
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,520
So you, you, you understand what
everybody has and, and what 

712
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,160
their go to pitch is. 
But I, I feel like every game 

713
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,760
Jazz Chisholm goes up there and 
like he's swinging, you know, 

714
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,680
from the heels trying to hit one
to outer space on a first pitch 

715
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,440
curveball that he misses by a 
mile. 

716
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,920
Like, dude, just sit back and 
and react to Dead Red early in 

717
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,360
the count. 
I mean, that's basic stuff. 

718
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:03,560
So I am not a Jazz believer. 
I'm not and I have never been a 

719
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,200
jazz Chism believer. 
Now the irony here, this where 

720
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,800
it gets a little interesting. 
And I'll be fair, there are 

721
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,159
times when I am a fan and that's
that's kind of split in the 

722
00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:15,840
difference. 
But, and it almost seems like a 

723
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,280
contradiction like, well, if 
you're not a believer, why would

724
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,040
you be a fan? 
Well, because I am a fan of his 

725
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,440
talents and I am a fan of his 
energy, but I am not a believer 

726
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,880
in how he presents himself as a 
buttoned up night tonight 

727
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,840
reliable baseball player because
he's just not that. 

728
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:35,960
And he's never going to be that.
He's going to suddenly change 

729
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,679
now. 
You don't think Judge has tried 

730
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:40,080
everything in the world to get 
him to get, you know, more of a 

731
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,600
plan, more urgency? 
No, it's not going to work. 

732
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,000
Trade Spencer Jones. 
Yeah. 

733
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,000
Well, I don't think the A's are 
giving him up. 

734
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,360
I don't think that's going to 
happen there. 

735
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,600
And Wells, I mean, guys here, 
first of all, Langoliers is 

736
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:52,800
really good. 
I think they gave him a little 

737
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,800
contract, too. 
He's really good. 

738
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,600
Why would they want, you know, I
mean, Spencer Jones might be, 

739
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,560
might wind up being a career 
minor leaguer. 

740
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,280
He just might be. 
And Austin Wells is a 210 

741
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,120
hitter. 
I mean, I grant he's got some 

742
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,520
pop and he does receive the ball
well, but it's amazing you guys 

743
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,840
present these trades. 
You know, to get something you 

744
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,080
got to give up something. 
If you want to get Langoliers 

745
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,440
from the A's, you got to give up
like AI don't know, like a will 

746
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,800
Warren and you know, and it's 
something of value. 

747
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,480
I'm not saying Jones and Wells 
have 0 value, but you know what 

748
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,480
I mean. 
Some of these trades are insane.

749
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:32,360
You know, you just think about a
21 sided So the Yankees boy J 

750
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,000
Rod I just I, I really hope that
the Yankees get a win tonight, 

751
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,320
man. 
Otherwise, me and my boy Boone 

752
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,600
are going to be getting after it
tomorrow. 

753
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,160
It's going to be rough. 
I mean, you know, maybe listen, 

754
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,040
depending on how it goes, I 
think another loss could be 

755
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,800
better for the pop tomorrow. 
So hang on, hang on, let's see 

756
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,360
what's going on. 
Let me just put a little. 

757
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,600
That's how he takes it, really. 
Yeah, let me just put a little 

758
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,680
order into the next room. 
I'm I'm in the mood for. 

759
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,400
I'm going to have a second cup 
of coffee today. 

760
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,520
Let me just put the text in 
here. 

761
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:03,600
Can you please make me a cup of 
coffee and bring it in? 

762
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,440
Thank you. 
Let's see how long that takes. 

763
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,960
If there's a long line there to 
here at over at Tierney Bucks. 

764
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,000
Are you a Starbucks guy or no? 
No, I'm not a coffee guy. 

765
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,280
I've got like a dude. 
I've got like a rough stomach. 

766
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,080
So OK, OK. 
And it's not really like it's 

767
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,200
not old dairy things, but like 
caffeine just really messes me 

768
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,560
up. 
Yeah, yeah. 

769
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,840
I'm not a big, I'm not a big 
caffeine guy. 

770
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,480
Like I very rarely drink soda. 
We very rarely have soda in the 

771
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,320
house, honestly even more than 
we should. 

772
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,200
And, and we don't have it much. 
But if it was up to me, I have 

773
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,320
none, you know, 0. 
But you know, sometimes it is 

774
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,640
good. 
Like if you know late game, you 

775
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,560
have a little McDonald's, I bet 
it's good or a little BK or you 

776
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,240
know, I will have a ginger ale 
as I've told you on football 

777
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:50,160
Sundays. 
You know, a little roast beef, 

778
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,280
you know, a little roast beef, 
extra mutts, all that stuff. 

779
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,680
Roasted red Peppers pizza it you
know it, there's a time and a 

780
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,040
place for a little bit of soda 
kids birthday parties. 

781
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,480
But you know, even if I'm 
drinking decaf and like I once 

782
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,480
the show's over, I won't have a 
sip of coffee even if the fan, 

783
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,080
even if the fan my entire 
career, right. 

784
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,480
But I'm most recently WFAN doing
the 10:00 show with tiki and 

785
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,440
then Sal. 
I would sip a cup of coffee on 

786
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,000
the way in. 
So I would drive in right And 

787
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,120
then I would make one more 
during the show and I would 

788
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,280
never finish it. 
It's more like it's more like a 

789
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:26,200
companion. 
It's there. 

790
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,200
I take a little sip right, But 
even if it's decaf, like I find 

791
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,200
it therapeutic. 
It's just part of the process. 

792
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,280
Like if I've got a lot of work 
to do, like I've got AI had a 

793
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,440
lot of notes here today. 
Not that I mean, listen, it's my

794
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,000
job. 
I'm not looking for bonus points

795
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,000
is what I do, but had a lot of 
notes today because I want to 

796
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,560
get to a lot of stuff. 
Wait till I get to the NFL 

797
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,320
international schedule. 
I'm going to destroy the NFL 

798
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,800
today. 
But the there's something to be 

799
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,120
said. 
It's part of my process. 

800
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,960
Like I just enjoy knowing it's 
there, a little sip there, even 

801
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,680
if it's decap, as I said. 
And I never drank coffee until, 

802
00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:59,160
matter of fact, the first time I
ever had coffee. 

803
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,560
I'll never forget my buddy Andy 
Monfried, who's the best. 

804
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,920
I love Andy. 
So I graduated from college 

805
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,960
trying to get into it. 
Yeah. 

806
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,080
Oh, yeah. 
No, not once until after 

807
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,600
college. 
And I was working. 

808
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,520
I had a sales job in, in New 
York City and I was trying to 

809
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,240
break into the industry, right? 
So I was doing a little bit on 

810
00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:19,240
Wall Street over at, at 
Fidelity. 

811
00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:22,400
I was doing at, at this other 
company before that construction

812
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,960
like just, you know, mixing and 
matching before I could get a 

813
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,240
break. 
It's not easy, you know, And I 

814
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,480
remember we went out one night 
and and I think I was still 

815
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,560
living at home because I was 
just out, yeah, I was just out 

816
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,600
of school and man, I got rocked,
man. 

817
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,400
I went out with a bunch of the 
older sale and like I could 

818
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,480
handle myself, you know, because
I had fun in college. 

819
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,720
But I went, went a little bit 
too deep, right? 

820
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,840
And I show up for the sales 
meeting the next day and my 

821
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,360
buddy Andy's like, dude, he and 
I was, I was out with him for a 

822
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,360
while. 
I was like, let's go get a cup 

823
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:49,680
of coffee. 
Maybe I'm like, I don't he's 

824
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,880
like, you need some. 
That was the first time I had it

825
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,080
and it gave me a little jolt. 
I'm like, oh, OK. 

826
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,760
So even now, like driving to 
play golf or even coaching, if 

827
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,600
if I'm coaching an early morning
game, I'll have a cup of coffee 

828
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,160
in the dugout. 
I'll kind of sip it after we go 

829
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,760
through Winfield outfield. 
But yeah, I, I, I where's my 

830
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,440
coffee? 
I'm starting to certainly not 

831
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,800
going to get a tip here. 
We got to respond. 

832
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,640
You will have it in five. 
There we go. 

833
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,920
OK, I appreciate that. 
Yes, very much. 

834
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,560
All right, so we'll get to 
something. 

835
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:20,760
What does that say about the 
Yankees there? 

836
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,200
Hold on, put the shades on. 
Let me put the shades on. 

837
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,920
J Rod Warren or Weathers to stay
in the rotation. 

838
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,080
Now, this is something that I 
really can't wait to talk to 

839
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,960
Aaron Boone about like this 
again. 

840
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,320
It's going to be a big 
organizational decision. 

841
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,320
I don't know the answer. 
I don't know his answer. 

842
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,960
I'll give you mine. 
Now, I did tweet last night, 

843
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,720
maybe Weathers to the bullpen. 
And I said this, you know, 1520 

844
00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:43,760
minutes ago. 
He's more of a reliable. 

845
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,160
I mean, he's thrown some gems 
where he's he's untouchable. 

846
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,680
And the Yankees really did have 
a good read on him. 

847
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,880
He's controllable, he's cheap, 
but he was a little bit injury 

848
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,160
prone in the wrong situation and
they had to refine his his 

849
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,480
stuff. 
And the Yankees are really good 

850
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,480
at that organizationally, some 
of these pitching reclamation 

851
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,400
projects, they're actually 
outstanding at it, right? 

852
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:02,840
And I want to give him credit 
there. 

853
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,480
So to me, the only way that I 
can possibly let me get a little

854
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,320
get blank piece of paper, the 
only way that I can answer this 

855
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,960
right, I've got to assume full 
health. 

856
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,840
And like, if it's up to me, 
let's push this thing forward. 

857
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:19,240
Let's go to like August, right? 
All right, let's go to August 

858
00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:22,520
Here you got freed one. 
And again, the order is somewhat

859
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,680
insignificant. 
You can always manipulate the 

860
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,840
rotations off days, whatever, 
but just to kind of push it 

861
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,480
forward and keep it moving. 
Freed 1. 

862
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,360
Garrett Cole 2. 
I mean, Cam schlittner #1 Cam 

863
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,120
Schlittner is one of the best 
pitchers in baseball, period. 

864
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,520
If Cam is your two, he's 
absolutely the best 2. 

865
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,560
And if Cam Schlittner is your 
three, he might actually be the 

866
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,240
best three of all time. 
I mean, maybe a little bit of a 

867
00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:47,040
prisoner of the moment, but I, I
don't know. 

868
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,200
Anyway, Freed 1, Colt 2, 
Schlittler 3. 

869
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,600
They're going to keep Rodan 4I. 
I can be coaxed into maybe Rodan

870
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,360
5, whatever. 
But and and I I think Rodan 

871
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,120
deserves more respect than he's 
gotten. 

872
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,080
The first year was a mess and 
then he really started to right 

873
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,280
the ship and he was really good 
last year, playoffs aside, and 

874
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,720
he was awful as well against 
Toronto. 

875
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:14,360
Either way, Rodan 4 see the 
thing with with the Weathers 

876
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:19,040
right weather, I'm going to say 
Weathers 5. 

877
00:41:19,240 --> 00:41:23,440
So if that's the case, see, but 
here's the problem, and this is 

878
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:24,440
what I want to talk to with 
Boone. 

879
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,840
Maybe they don't care about this
right At that .60% of your 

880
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,840
rotations lefties. 
Freed's a lefty, obviously 

881
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,960
Rodana's a lefty and Weathers is
a lefty. 

882
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:38,080
If you have Warren as your 5 and
Weathers to the pen, well, now 

883
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:43,200
it's, you know, lefty, righty, 
righty left and again, you can 

884
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,960
manipulate that. 
If Warren's that number 5 and if

885
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,040
Warren's the number 5, well, now
you get a bullpen where you've 

886
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,120
got weathers where you I still 
like Cruz. 

887
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,400
I still with that splitter. 
I I love his energy. 

888
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:55,840
He's got to be used in the right
spot. 

889
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,160
I'm a Cruz fan. 
I mean, Duvall get lost by 

890
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,400
Bednar is going to be the the 
8th inning man, in my opinion. 

891
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:06,720
Weathers Clark Schmidt. 
They're going to make a trade 

892
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:09,280
and I think it's going to be a 
big one for an electric arm who 

893
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:14,400
will wind up being the closer 
and then Bednar and like, I'm 

894
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,880
not really banking on heel, but 
then LeBron Hey, and you know, 

895
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,880
Elmo Rodriguez looked a little 
bit overwhelmed, but he too has 

896
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,240
great stuff. 
And maybe maybe like a Ramiro 

897
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:25,400
Mendoza role, if you're old 
enough to remember that, like, 

898
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,400
you know, 5th inning, 6th 
inning, I could I could see him 

899
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,120
being before the high leverage 
point. 

900
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,280
So that's that's my answer. 
I don't know what their answer 

901
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,320
is. 
I don't even know if they know 

902
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,320
their answer right now. 
I don't know. 

903
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,600
I mean, it's all depending upon 
those Weathers. 

904
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,960
Keep this up. 
What does will Warren look like?

905
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,280
You know, I'd have to. 
I'd have to investigate further.

906
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,720
Not that it really matters 
because Clay Holmes was a 

907
00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:50,400
starter with the Pirates, then a
reliever, now a starter again. 

908
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,120
Did Warren get any, you know, 
relief? 

909
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,600
Look in the I don't think he 
did. 

910
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,720
Weathers did. 
So there's a lot of factors at 

911
00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:01,440
play, but the good news is 
they've got a lot of options, 

912
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,040
which gives me comfort. 
I think Dominguez is done, Wells

913
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,720
is done. 
Just like Alvarez, Vientos and 

914
00:43:07,720 --> 00:43:10,040
Beatty. 
We know what they are and 

915
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,000
they're supplemental role 
players at best. 

916
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:15,960
I'm definitely not trying to 
make this a Yankee meth and keep

917
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,200
that up there. 
I, I, I'm just not a big Alvarez

918
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:19,560
fan. 
I'm just not, I know he's got a 

919
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:20,800
little bit of pop. 
Not a fan. 

920
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,520
I'm just now, I don't think I 
ever will be. 

921
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,720
I probably overrated Beatty a 
little bit coming into the 

922
00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:30,920
season, you know, like defensive
versatility, hit some home runs 

923
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,880
last year, basically took him a 
month to get a walk there. 

924
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,720
That was surprising. 
But I'm not giving up on Beatty.

925
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,520
You know, Beatty batting 7th or 
8th on a good team is fine. 

926
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,240
What else we got there. 
I'm not going to give up on 

927
00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:45,160
Dominguez and I'm not going to 
give up. 

928
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,240
I guess the only one. 
I guess I'm not giving instead 

929
00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:49,600
of Vientos guy. 
You know that because of his 

930
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,880
limited role, all they can do is
there's the coffee. 

931
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,440
Thank you very much. 
To any tip. 

932
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:55,840
Do I owe you anything? 
Is that good? 

933
00:43:56,720 --> 00:43:58,720
It's free. 
Yeah. 

934
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:02,400
You hear what you just said? 
I can't tell you. 

935
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,280
So I think that. 
Look at the. 

936
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,600
What does the. 
What does the mug say? 

937
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,120
Hope. 
There you go. 

938
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,720
I think that there's a lot of 
players up on the board there. 

939
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,600
I don't think any of them will 
be stars. 

940
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,520
And I think that, you know, 
obviously, you know, a year from

941
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,440
now and certainly 2, you know, 
you might have 4060, maybe 80% 

942
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,840
of those guys gone. 
But I'm not going to give up on 

943
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,960
Dominguez because of the speed 
ratio and he's got a little pop.

944
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,680
Wells does enough defensively 
where I'm not going to give up 

945
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,080
on him. 
I don't love him and he's just 

946
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,000
not becoming the player that I 
thought he could. 

947
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,880
But you know, I mean, how many, 
how many teams have catchers 

948
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,360
that are going to hit 20 
something home runs? 

949
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,000
He's got to get going a little 
bit, but he's already done it. 

950
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,640
So I already know he's a 20 plus
home run guy. 

951
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,600
He's cheap and he's a good 
receiver of the ball. 

952
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,000
So there's a lot there. 
It's a good chat or good 

953
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,240
message. 
I appreciate that. 

954
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,200
Now very quickly here on on what
the Mets are doing. 

955
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,680
Listen, the Mets are a bad week.
And you know, maybe the Yankees 

956
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,880
can complicate things for the 
Mets coming up at the Subway 

957
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,320
Series, the first Subway Series 
here. 

958
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,480
I don't know what they're going 
to do during the six game 

959
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,520
homestand and playing a couple 
of good teams. 

960
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,400
You know, I feel like they're 
going to be two and four. 

961
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,320
Who knows? 
I mean, baseball's wacky. 

962
00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:19,840
Maybe split the difference three
and three. 

963
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,720
Maybe they shocked the world. 
They go 5 and one. 

964
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:22,760
Things change. 
I don't know. 

965
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,680
I obviously don't know. 
Nobody knows here. 

966
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,480
But I am not seeing any evidence
that the Mets are ready to go on

967
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,800
some sort of role. 
So I'm certainly not going to 

968
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,240
say that I like the call up of 
Ewing and I like the call up, 

969
00:45:33,240 --> 00:45:35,160
but I'm looking forward to 
watching him play. 

970
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,440
See, it's one thing like when 
the Yankees called up Spencer 

971
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,480
Jones, even though he can run 
and he I think he's going to be 

972
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,840
maybe not here, but I think you 
could be certainly competent and

973
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,880
maybe slightly closer to a plus 
defensive center fielder, unlike

974
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,600
Dominguez. 
But a guy like Ewing is is going

975
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,120
to baby. 
And and I thought this way a 

976
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,600
bench as well coming into the 
season, a guy like Ewing is 

977
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,560
going to be able to impact the 
game, even if he's OO for four 

978
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,800
or one for four, the blue base 
head, because when he's on base,

979
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,480
he runs like the wind. 
He's going to have the green 

980
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,080
light. 
He's a high energy guy. 

981
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,160
And I think I think AJ is going 
to bring a little juicier, some 

982
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,320
much needed juice. 
So I'm looking forward to 

983
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,040
watching him play. 
You know, and obviously this 

984
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,520
year he's hitting the he's 
hitting the heck out of he's 

985
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,600
hitting 339. 
And then last year at 3 levels 

986
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,720
of the minors, he had 365 apt 
315. 

987
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:27,360
So you know, he's a huge on base
guy, almost 400 for his minor 

988
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,640
league career. 
I believe it's 395 and he's 

989
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,800
already got 17 steals. 
He had 70, 71 last year. 

990
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,480
So, you know, he he's probably 
running a 6460. 

991
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,960
He absolutely flies. 
And he's the kind of energy and 

992
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:45,160
infusion of of youthful 
exuberance and juice and, you 

993
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,640
know, scoring from first on a 
double that not everybody is or,

994
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,160
you know, make it a play in the 
gap defensively that not 

995
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,520
everybody could. 
And I think, you know, we're not

996
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,440
there yet because it's still 
fairly early. 

997
00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:59,280
But if you're a Mets fan right 
now, I know you still holding 

998
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,480
out hope that the Mets will get,
you know, hot and they'll 

999
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,840
rectify this a bit. 
I think that there's a better 

1000
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,480
chance that the Mets sell people
off. 

1001
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,160
I think there's a good chance 
that that's going to happen 

1002
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,600
rather than getting back into 
any sort of legitimate, like 

1003
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,320
high level playoff baseball 
conversation. 

1004
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,280
Like if the Mets make the 
playoffs, they're going to be 

1005
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,320
the last team in. 
And it's not they're not going 

1006
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,120
to suddenly jump over the Braves
and, you know, find a way to win

1007
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,400
93 games. 
The Mets will be in the 80s if 

1008
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,200
they're lucky, the high 80s, 
most probably more like the high

1009
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,040
70s, and if they're not careful,
lower than that. 

1010
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,720
Like there's just not a lot 
about the doors, nowhere near 

1011
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:34,480
coming back. 
And they've just got a lot of 

1012
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,160
issues. 
I mean, Menai is a disaster. 

1013
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,880
They got problems, right? 
Peralta's not quite been what 

1014
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,800
he's been fine, but you need 
more if you know you're looking 

1015
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,560
for that kind of money. 
Peralta, you got to be a little 

1016
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,760
bit better, got to go a little 
deeper in games, which he just 

1017
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:48,880
doesn't. 
And he didn't do that with 

1018
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,920
Milwaukee either. 
So maybe that was an unrealistic

1019
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,000
expectation. 
The point is, you know, if the 

1020
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,000
Mets start to sell off some 
pieces, right? 

1021
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:01,560
And even if they don't yet, I, I
think you're beginning to see 

1022
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,240
the future of the Mets now. 
I don't know if that future is 

1023
00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:07,640
going to actually work because, 
you know, a couple of years ago 

1024
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,640
all we heard about was Alvarez 
#1 prospect in baseball stinks. 

1025
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,240
You know, the Beaties, the 
Mauricio's, the Vientos's, the 

1026
00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:18,320
great Mets farm system. 
Cohen bought a minor league 

1027
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,600
system by you know what he did 
what he did with Scherzer and 

1028
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,280
the, the aging veteran pitchers 
eating the which by the way, was

1029
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,360
a good move by Cohen. 
I applauded him for that. 

1030
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,520
But you still got to get some 
players who actually come up 

1031
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,880
here and play before you say, 
wow, it was an amazing move. 

1032
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,080
Like there's 2 levels of grading
that out. 

1033
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,520
I gave him a world of credit. 
I'm like, now that's a guy who 

1034
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:43,120
is willing to to push his money.
Mets had a bad form system and 

1035
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,320
based on the willingness to eat 
money, Mets went from one of the

1036
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,520
worst form systems, at least on 
paper, to one of the better 

1037
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,280
ones. 
They've got some pitching, 

1038
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,640
they've got some young, fast 
position players, but they got 

1039
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,480
to play well and, and hopefully 
somebody like Ewing will. 

1040
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,160
And I like Bench. 
I do. 

1041
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,560
He's a kid, man. 
And it's, it's hard. 

1042
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,760
It's hard. 
Baseball's tough, dude. 

1043
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,920
You know, it's not like you're a
rookie in the NBA and you're, 

1044
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,880
you know, if you get drafted to 
a bad team, you're going to have

1045
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,080
a low efficiency rate because 
there's nothing around you, 

1046
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:13,840
whatever. 
But like, think about somebody 

1047
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,440
like Deuce McBride when he was 
drafted, second round pick. 

1048
00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:20,840
You know, he can get some time 
on the court and he can just 

1049
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,640
kind of ease his way in because 
you had some veterans, you had 

1050
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,480
some good players, you had a 
stable situation, you had a good

1051
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,840
coach in Tom Thibodeau. 
And the runway to contribute and

1052
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,720
not be overwhelmed by being 
asked to do too much is simply 

1053
00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:36,400
not there. 
And it's just a much better way 

1054
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,800
for a young player to enter the 
any situation. 

1055
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,920
These poor Mets players are 
getting called up. 

1056
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,680
And they're kind of thought to 
like, come save us, you know, 

1057
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,600
come save us. 
Just like when they brought up 

1058
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,160
Alvarez for the Miners a couple 
of years ago in that Atlanta 

1059
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:54,680
series in 2022. 
And I mean, oh, bases loaded 

1060
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,800
with pretty, pretty big game. 
Go pinch hit, buddy. 

1061
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,800
I mean, could you ease the kid 
in? 

1062
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,480
Could he get in that bat against
the Marlins, you know, or the 

1063
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:02,560
Nationals? 
Yeah. 

1064
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,560
Geez. 
So I don't know what Ewing's 

1065
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,360
going to do, but I'm looking 
forward to watching him play. 

1066
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,200
And, you know, when I close my 
eyes and I think about the Mets 

1067
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,000
outfield, if everything goes 
well in, you know, maybe this 

1068
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,200
year, next year, certainly the 
year after, you start to 

1069
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,320
envision, all right, you got 
Soto, you got bench and you got 

1070
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:23,440
Ewing. 
Like that would be your 

1071
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,480
outfield. 
And I want to see Ryan Clifford 

1072
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,120
get a look this year, too, at 
first base. 

1073
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,040
Want to see him play. 
Now, I know he's a higher 

1074
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,440
strikeout guy, but he's got easy
power. 

1075
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,720
He's a first baseman. 
He's the highest rated first 

1076
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,200
basement in the system. 
You know, he's been, you know, 

1077
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,400
he's he's got some seasoning 
like this where the Mets are the

1078
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,040
Mets are another week or two 
away from really, if they're not

1079
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,680
already crafting a possible 
shifting in philosophy here. 

1080
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,200
We're going to be trading guys 
off. 

1081
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,120
I mean that that's that's where 
all the that's all there is to 

1082
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:53,440
it. 
You're just not going to run 

1083
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,160
this thing out there all year. 
You're going to have to make 

1084
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,680
some changes here. 
It's going to have to be a a 

1085
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,960
massive course correction, a 
massive recalibration. 

1086
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,960
And if that happens, right, and 
they start selling off some of 

1087
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,160
these pieces, like say if they 
get rid of Peralta and they get 

1088
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,800
rid of not that you would really
miss Peterson, but I mean, and 

1089
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,080
nobody wants Banaya for that 
money. 

1090
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:14,440
So the Mets would have to eat 
the money. 

1091
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:19,600
But if like Peralta's gone and 
if they trade a Bichette, you 

1092
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,360
know, like stuff like that, I'm 
not I'd have to even see if 

1093
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:23,960
Bichette has a no try. 
I don't even know if he does. 

1094
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,520
But if they get rid of some of 
the few names, veteran names, 

1095
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:29,920
yeah. 
I mean, I, I know we all enjoy 

1096
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,080
watching young kids play. 
It's it's pretty exciting. 

1097
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,600
It's galvanizing as a fan. 
But that place is going to be 

1098
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,200
empty soon. 
So like, it's it's goal time for

1099
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:38,240
the Mets. 
I mean, you can't just keep 

1100
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:40,800
pushing the bats early. 
And Met fans aren't saying that 

1101
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,520
to their credit. 
To your credit, if you're a Met 

1102
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,600
fan, I think you guys have had a
real, real fair read on the 

1103
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,680
year. 
You know, maybe coming into the 

1104
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,360
year, you were ready to bite 
you. 

1105
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,080
You, you your fists were 
cleansed. 

1106
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,160
Your teeth were like, because 
you, you lost Pete, you lost 

1107
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,960
Nimmo. 
The Mets messed up. 

1108
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,800
Yeah, I know he's heard, so 
maybe it wouldn't matter. 

1109
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,160
But the Mets messed up the Diaz 
situation just by a couple of 

1110
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,600
$1,000,000. 
They messed that up. 

1111
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,520
Now, they did not want Nimmo. 
They did not want Pete. 

1112
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,800
They want the Diaz. 
They just messed that up. 

1113
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,520
That's on Sterns, right? 
But I thought they had a pretty 

1114
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,640
viable Plan B trying to get 
Tucker. 

1115
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,080
Tucker goes to LA. 
All right, boom, we get Bichette

1116
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,240
basically like the next day kind
of. 

1117
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,040
And you know, you got you got 
Juan Soto, you got Bichette, you

1118
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,040
got Lindor, you know you got 
Peralta. 

1119
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,360
And everybody's thinking, 
including me, that the Mets 

1120
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:28,800
would be pretty competitive this
year. 

1121
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,080
And instead, I mean, everybody's
hurt and it's an absolute 

1122
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:36,200
lifeless sad sack situation. 
So that's where the Mets are. 

1123
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:41,800
All right, let me get a couple 
of No, well, no, I'm not, I'm 

1124
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,800
not insulting Cano. 
I was pointing out the 

1125
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,960
differences. 
Jazz Chisholm can't shine his 

1126
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,440
shoes. 
I mean, listen, somebody, it's 

1127
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,320
funny because Robinson Cano, I 
mean, I almost wish I'd labor 

1128
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,080
Torres at this point. 
I feel I know that that's nuts. 

1129
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,600
I think Labor Torres was at 
least more a little bit more 

1130
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,280
reliable in some of these 
situational spots. 

1131
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:06,240
Robinson Cano, right? 
Man, I know this. the PE DS and 

1132
00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:08,360
all that stuff, and he left and 
went to Seattle. 

1133
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,280
But Robinson Cano, I mean, talk 
about, I don't know if we ever 

1134
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,760
took a player for granted more 
than we did Robinson Cano. 

1135
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,800
And I know that like the true 
devout Yankee fans were in all 

1136
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,640
of his hitting and did 
appreciate him. 

1137
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,880
But you know, there was a little
bit of laziness where the game 

1138
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,480
came easy. 
You remember the points of 

1139
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,200
frustration and the points of 
contention. 

1140
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:32,400
But Robinson Cano, I mean, I'm 
just looking at this 3 jeez hit 

1141
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,000
342 his first full year in the 
bigs. 

1142
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:42,600
I really a second full year 342 
Then he hit 306-323-1930 two 

1143
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:50,240
313314314I mean big RB is big 
home runs 48 double S, 41 double

1144
00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:55,640
S, 46 double S, 48 double S, 41 
double S absolutely astounding. 

1145
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,080
I mean what Cano did, but see 
the difference with Cano. 

1146
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,760
I think Robinson Cano was 
penalized by what was around 

1147
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,680
him. 
Like we were so used to the 

1148
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,200
Yankee royalty and the Yankees 
winning that when they didn't 

1149
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,400
win is that of course he won an 
O 9 and think about that Yankee 

1150
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,360
infield in O9 Mark to share a 
Cano Jeter a rod What you know, 

1151
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,160
just come on. 
I mean one of the best ever, 

1152
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,560
right. 
But because the Yankees won so 

1153
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:25,280
much before Cano got there and 
there was a trace of from him, 

1154
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,600
body language not always busted 
out-of-the-box. 

1155
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,200
And those were real things and I
would get on them. 

1156
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,280
I remember I was on 1050 ESPN 
Radio at that point and I loved,

1157
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,520
I was a big Keno fan, but I 
just, I have no patience for 

1158
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,640
somebody that doesn't play the 
game hard all the time. 

1159
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,280
I, and I understand that it's 
162. 

1160
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:46,240
I'm not asking you to, to Sprint
after a walk like Pete Rose or 

1161
00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:49,400
Nimmo. 
You know, I'm not I'm not asking

1162
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:54,040
you even on a on a, you know, 
hard hit 90 plus exit Velo 2 

1163
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,400
hopper to second base to haul 
ass and Sprint down the first 

1164
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:01,400
baseline, But you got to at 
least present it in a way that 

1165
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,840
is, are they doing right by the 
game? 

1166
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,320
You know, and and listen, the 
thing I'll just personalize it 

1167
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,560
for very briefly for a moment. 
The reason why that's part of 

1168
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,320
the reason why I've gotten on 
cat not recently, but you know, 

1169
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,560
when cat would would lay back at
the other end and bark at the 

1170
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,880
refs and just jog up the court. 
What players who who show that 

1171
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:25,920
to me, it is just inherently 
unacceptable to me because I was

1172
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,920
not I just was not a great 
athlete. 

1173
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,680
I just wasn't I was a good 
baseball player, but I I I 

1174
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:35,040
wasn't I wasn't fast, you know, 
couldn't jump when I played 

1175
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:39,920
basketball, you know, 
defensively, come right at me, 

1176
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:41,440
you know, on the basketball 
court. 

1177
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,960
All right, go with him. 
You know, that's a problem kind 

1178
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,120
of like to go with Brunson. 
Not that I was playing point 

1179
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,840
guard, but the point is and not 
to equate myself to somebody 

1180
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,680
like Brunson. 
It's ridiculous, but because, 

1181
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,200
you know, I, I worked so hard to
almost become an average 

1182
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:00,920
athlete, jumping rope, sprints, 
running up the hills, all the 

1183
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,800
stuff I would do when I was 
younger and still playing 

1184
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,880
competitively. 
When I see guys like Jazz or 

1185
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,200
like Cano, it's just, I, I can't
take it. 

1186
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:13,920
It drives me insane because 
you've been given so much and 

1187
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,680
like the, you know, it's hard 
enough to hit, but it's not hard

1188
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,800
to run like I would. 
And I've told told my son this 

1189
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,440
who's faster than me, Thank God.
I mean, it's hard not to be, but

1190
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,520
you know, when we were running 
sprints at the end of practice 

1191
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,840
in college, like I remember in 
the gym before we would go and 

1192
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,760
start our season 20 something 
guys on the team 2324. 

1193
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:40,120
And like, I would have to give 
it literally everything that I 

1194
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:45,520
had run as hard as I could to 
finish like 11th, 12th, you 

1195
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,560
know, you know, and that that 
was always my mindset. 

1196
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,640
It was just always you, you got,
you got to run hard because if 

1197
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,440
you don't, you basically look 
like you're running backwards. 

1198
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,200
And if you followed my career, 
any problem that I've had, 

1199
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,680
usually the first issue is born 
out of a lack of effort. 

1200
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,240
You know, receivers half assed 
across the middle pulling their 

1201
00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:08,880
arms back. 
You know, just I can't take it. 

1202
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,120
I just I'm never going to take 
it. 

1203
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:14,840
And I watched Jazz back to that 
for a minute and I'm like, man, 

1204
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:19,560
oh man, God has given you every 
physical trait, every athletic 

1205
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,800
trait in the book. 
Like I've, I've said this before

1206
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,160
and I've used tiki as an 
example, right. 

1207
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,920
So, I mean, I, I, I don't really
quite look at it this way, but 

1208
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,920
the imagery, I think you'll 
appreciate J Rod to me when 

1209
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,000
you're born, right? 
When an athlete's born, yeah. 

1210
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,360
And you go through the assembly 
line like the conveyor belt, and

1211
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,120
you get stamped with the 
different athletic 

1212
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:43,440
characteristics, strength, 
speed, dexterity, size, you 

1213
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,960
know, all those different things
right now, Tiki wasn't tall, but

1214
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,360
somebody like Tiki was literally
given, you know, stamp, stamp, 

1215
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:54,040
stamp, stamp, stamp. 
And then he comes out and he had

1216
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,960
to work his behind off to, you 
know, to maximize what he was 

1217
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:02,160
given athletically by God. 
But to me, I mean, they bypassed

1218
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,640
me 3 or 4 different. 
They gave me good size six, 2 

1219
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,720
1/2. 
They gave me decent strength, 

1220
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,440
was given good hand eye 
coordination, could really catch

1221
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,480
and shoot, couldn't run a leg. 
So I didn't I didn't get that. 

1222
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,280
Or the other way to look at it 
is when, when, when, when a 

1223
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,440
young athletic baby is born, 
those who have everything you're

1224
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:23,720
touched by 10 fingers of God. 
You know, I probably got 6 in 

1225
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:28,920
terms of like the professional 
scale and Jazz was given 10 and 

1226
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,720
you know, Robinson Cano was 
basically given, you know, Jazz 

1227
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,960
is a little bit faster, but 9 
1/2 and guys like that, that dog

1228
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,840
it or that don't always give you
that full bore burst. 

1229
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,880
I just I will never accept that 
and I don't want a lot of guys 

1230
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,200
like that on my team. 
I just don't, you know? 

1231
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,800
Yeah, no big time. 
All right, so I like this little

1232
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:52,160
like 10 fingers of God thing. 
So in your in your kind of 

1233
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:56,080
theory here, is every person at 
least touched by 1? 

1234
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,400
Oh my God. 
Because like, I'm thinking about

1235
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,160
myself. 
Here, that's a good question. 

1236
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:06,120
Too, not to diminish my athletic
prowess and my rec basketball 

1237
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:07,160
prowess here. 
Yep. 

1238
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,280
Yep. 
But listen, I'm 58, you know my 

1239
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,240
game. 
I'm not, I'm not the fastest 

1240
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,440
dude. 
I had asthma growing up. 

1241
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,240
My, you know, so my athletic 
ability was a little stunted. 

1242
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,480
But you know, there may have 
been one finger. 

1243
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,560
He was like you. 
Know here's here's the big 

1244
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:27,440
range, here's the finger that 
you got to be a good shooter, 

1245
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,960
you need good depth perception 
to me, like, and, and that's 

1246
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,080
something that that I always 
had, like I went out, we were 

1247
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,240
shooting in the yard the other 
day and you know, I don't think 

1248
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,200
some of these kids today I made 
3-4 shots in a row. 

1249
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,240
I'm like, and I'm like, when you
make a shake, get the ball back,

1250
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,400
dude, my hands are up. 
My son's dribble. 

1251
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,640
I'm like, dude, I make, let's go
make it. 

1252
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,880
You make it, you get it again. 
And I drill like 13 in a row 

1253
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,120
now. 
It's a soft rim and it's 

1254
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:52,520
legitimately 10 feet high. 
Yeah. 

1255
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:56,000
Then I was just splashing and 
not even jumping, just flicking,

1256
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,200
flicking, flicking, flicking. 
Like that's a depth perception 

1257
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,400
thing. 
You know, that's a connectivity 

1258
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,560
like the hands, the maybe the 
feet when you're actually 

1259
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:05,840
playing and jumping and 
shooting. 

1260
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,880
I would say that you got if 
you're as good a mid range 

1261
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,160
shooter as you profess to. 
Be I don't, I don't think I'm 

1262
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:15,840
Shaun Livingston or anything 
here, but but you know, I'm 

1263
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:20,640
pretty in terms of in terms of a
a person who never played any 

1264
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:24,040
sort of school basketball 
whatsoever, I'm pretty decent. 

1265
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:25,680
OK. 
I would say you got at least a 

1266
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,760
couple now. 
Also, listen, there's a lot of 

1267
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:32,680
kids who are really fast. 
Oh no, whose parents just didn't

1268
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,840
really, because maybe they, they
didn't play and they didn't 

1269
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,960
emphasize sports weren't 
introduced to whatever game it 

1270
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,000
might be. 
And that speed and maybe 

1271
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,120
potentially strength ratio as 
they, as they hit puberty and as

1272
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:48,280
they as they become more 
physically built and 

1273
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,320
well-rounded, it never really 
had a chance to shine. 

1274
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,880
So you might look at a kid who 
plays no sports. 

1275
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,680
He may have been he may have 
been touched by 5 or 6 fingers, 

1276
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:56,760
but. 
You just never know. 

1277
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,440
Never got a chance to tap into 
the well, all right, let me get 

1278
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,120
into this here, let me get into 
this. 

1279
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:06,600
So every time I do this, and I'm
going to preface it with I 

1280
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:10,480
understand how I sound and I'm 
also going to say I don't care 

1281
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,440
how I sound when it comes to 
this, right? 

1282
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:17,560
The NFL international schedule 
is an absolute joke. 

1283
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:23,600
And listen, the reason it's a 
joke is because each year, and 

1284
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,720
I'm going to document all this 
in a minute, but just the 

1285
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:31,520
initial premise, each year they 
just screw you more and more and

1286
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,600
more. 
So we are getting ready with the

1287
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,800
schedule release. 
By the way, Jay, just get that 

1288
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,400
Jets collected thing back. 
No, I'm sorry, that's my jets 

1289
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:40,040
collect. 
There you go. 

1290
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:40,960
Look quick. 
Nice. 

1291
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,800
So that's the schedule drop for 
The Jets coming up Thursday. 

1292
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,480
We're right around eight O 5 
myself, Jake and Rich. 

1293
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:50,360
We'll we'll hit The Jets stuff. 
But big picture, all right, we 

1294
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:54,760
are getting ready for a record 
setting 9 games on the 

1295
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,080
international circuit with the 
NFL this year. 

1296
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,360
Seven countries and four 
continents. 

1297
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,440
Seven countries and four 
continents. 

1298
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:08,440
Football is becoming soccer and 
that's not good See, the problem

1299
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,120
is nobody says it. 
People just accept it. 

1300
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,120
Oh wow, that's cool. 
There's a game in Australia. 

1301
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,040
How is that cool? 
And I love Australia. 

1302
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,440
I love it. 
Like this is not a knock on the 

1303
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,680
different countries. 
Please understand that. 

1304
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,840
But why in the world is this 
good? 

1305
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,200
And don't tell me it's about 
making money. 

1306
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,640
Don't you think that I know that
I understand that's part of the 

1307
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:33,480
reason why this draws my ire 
because it's become all about 

1308
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,760
money. 
So this year, J Rod, they're 

1309
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,440
playing get this up on the map. 
Can you on the on the screen, 

1310
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,160
the map here. 
Look at this guys. 

1311
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,480
Now cool graphic by the way, 
look at the international games.

1312
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,520
We're going to Melbourne, 
Australia. 

1313
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,040
We're going to Paris, France. 
We're going to Rio de Janeiro. 

1314
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:49,240
Great. 
If you want to hit the beach. 

1315
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,440
I don't know if you really want 
to watch football in Brazil, 

1316
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:53,920
I've got I'd like the London 
Games. 

1317
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:55,720
Actually, I thought that was 
good. 

1318
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,760
So that's not a knock on my man 
SD out there. 

1319
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,840
No, I I think that that works 
out very well. 

1320
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:05,240
Going to Munich, Germany, going 
to Madrid, Spain, going to keep 

1321
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,640
this up, going to Mexico City. 
Now understand this. 

1322
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:13,080
The NFL is becoming more and 
more and more brazen and 

1323
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:17,360
comfortable with doing whatever 
they want to you, whether it's 

1324
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,000
up Thursday night, Hey, we got a
big match up on Thursday. 

1325
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,160
You want to watch the game, got 
to stream it up. 

1326
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,760
We got a big match up Christmas 
Day to bed, you know, you better

1327
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:29,080
wrap up Christmas morning with 
Santa or Christmas brunch. 

1328
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,480
We got football to watch up here
comes late in the season. 

1329
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,320
We got some Saturday games for 
you as well. 

1330
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,200
All the kids have basketball 
games. 

1331
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,680
All the kids have a dance. 
Kid has a recital. 

1332
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,080
Too bad your team's playing on 
Saturday. 

1333
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,800
We got Sunday night, we got 
Monday night. 

1334
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,920
We got Thursday night. 
We got all day Saturday late in 

1335
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:48,360
the year. 
We got all Sunday, which is 

1336
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:50,200
awesome. 
And then of course Sunday night,

1337
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,360
which is equally awesome. 
But the way this is, go just 

1338
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:56,640
look at that map. 
What are we talking about here? 

1339
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,480
We're talking about soccer. 
Or is this the NFL? 

1340
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:04,560
And think about what we you, 
you, you, you don't know it, but

1341
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:08,520
I'm telling you are the 
experimental lab rat when it 

1342
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,360
comes to the NFL. 
So the international games were 

1343
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,440
born back in 2005. 
All right, let's stick our toe 

1344
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,720
in the pool, throw a little line
out there, see if we get a 

1345
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:18,840
little nibble. 
And it worked out pretty well. 

1346
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,600
They had one back in O5 and for 
I don't even remember the 

1347
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:23,800
reason, but in 2006 they had 
none. 

1348
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,880
OK, then they went back. 2 and 
2007 they had one. 

1349
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:31,560
Then IN200089101112 there were 
two. 

1350
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,640
So they went from one to two. 
Oh, we can make money. 

1351
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:36,840
Oh, people aren't really 
resisting it. 

1352
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:41,160
Oh, look at this. 
Then in 2013, fourteen and 15 

1353
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:43,640
they went to three, so there's 
more. 

1354
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:47,040
And then 2016 there were four 
international games. 

1355
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:51,400
And then guess what? 
In 2017 they stuck 5 down your 

1356
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,280
throat. 
And then for I don't even know 

1357
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,000
the reasons, then they went back
to three and three. 

1358
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,240
And then of course, 2020 was 
COVID. 

1359
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:02,000
And then in 2021, you know, the 
slow crawl out of COVID, there 

1360
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,400
was only two. 
And then they jumped right back 

1361
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,880
into it. 
In 2022, they were four. 

1362
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:11,800
In 2023 they were five. 
In 2024, they were five. 

1363
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,600
In 2025 last year they were 
seven. 

1364
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:20,320
And now there are 9, there are 
99. 

1365
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:25,240
So who is this helping? 
It's not helping you if you're 

1366
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:28,280
an American football fan, just 
not matter of fact, it's hurting

1367
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:29,160
you. 
And I'll tell you why. 

1368
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,320
And when I use the word brazen, 
and this is what's really 

1369
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:37,360
bothering me. 
Like I understand part part of 

1370
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,840
the motivation to send the 
Jaguars to London is and all 

1371
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:44,000
respect to Duval Duvalle, right?
You guys going to be good this 

1372
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:45,280
year. 
I'm not knocking the Jaguars, 

1373
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:51,040
but the the London Jaguars 
experiment was based on #1 the 

1374
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,600
situation of the Jacksonville 
Jaguars, which was fairly dire 

1375
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:58,920
#2 the international business 
interests of their owner, but 

1376
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:04,280
also the intense motivation to 
globalize the sport and what do 

1377
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,000
you know, make more money, All 
right? 

1378
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,160
We all know that, right? 
But it worked out. 

1379
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,440
It worked out and I did. 
I do like the London Games 

1380
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,720
because it's there for you. 
You know, you get up early. 

1381
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,640
The game was 9:00. 
Nine. 

1382
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:20,960
Yeah, we'll be at, or is it 10? 
I think it's nine either way. 

1383
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,560
You know, if you want to get up 
and watch it, I don't mean if 

1384
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,240
your team's playing, you want to
watch it, get a little scratch 

1385
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:27,800
on the game. 
You got a couple of guys going 

1386
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,040
fantasy. 
It's cool. 

1387
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,040
It's there if you want it. 
You know, the kids are running 

1388
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:32,720
around, you got stuff to do, you
go to church. 

1389
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:34,920
Whatever it is, it's there if 
you want it. 

1390
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:38,280
And I like that cup of coffee. 
Watch the game if it's a decent 

1391
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,360
game. 
But we're where they're going 

1392
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,920
now is just an embarrassment. 
And it's further evidence that 

1393
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,720
they just couldn't care less 
about you And like zombies 

1394
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,120
walking off the plank with our 
arms out. 

1395
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,560
We just keep, you know, the 
expression boot to ask when you 

1396
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:56,160
beat somebody in basketball mix 
dropped a lot of a lot of belts 

1397
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,400
to ask right. 
A lot of BT as the last couple 

1398
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,000
of weeks here. 
This is BT as a football fan, 

1399
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,360
because the more they do now, 
what's it going to look like in 

1400
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,280
10 years? 
There's nine international 

1401
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,120
games. 
Do you suddenly think that 

1402
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,680
they're going to recalibrate and
say, you know what? 

1403
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,400
I think we have enough despite 
the fact that we've made, you 

1404
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:17,200
know, 1.9 trillion more dollars 
as we expand the game. 

1405
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:18,880
Let's pull back. 
Nope. 

1406
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,760
There's going to be 18 or 20. 
the Super Bowl, at some point, 

1407
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:27,160
book, book it, mark my words, 
going to be an international 

1408
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,720
affair. 
Now, it's one thing when the 

1409
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:33,000
entire world watches the game, 
but it's on our soil. 

1410
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,960
It's another when it's not, you 
know, and that's coming. 

1411
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,880
That is just a matter of time. 
You can take that to the bank. 

1412
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:43,400
I promise you the Super Bowl 
will be played on non domestic 

1413
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,520
soil a lot sooner than you 
think. 

1414
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:47,320
And here's what's happening too,
right? 

1415
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:52,640
So in 2024, the Packers, the 
Packers, Eagles were in Brazil. 

1416
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:56,200
Last year, the Chargers and the 
Chiefs were in Brazil. 

1417
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,880
This year, week one in 
Australia, you've got the Rams 

1418
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:01,920
and the Niners. 
Now think of it's one thing to 

1419
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,080
have games, you know, 
internationally, which which I'm

1420
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:09,880
OK with in a limited dose. 
What they're doing now is taking

1421
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,280
rivalries and putting them 
there. 

1422
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,600
Dude, it doesn't matter who 
plays in Australia. 

1423
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:19,600
You can send The Jets who are 
awful and the Browns who are 

1424
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,760
equally awful. 
They're going to sell out. 

1425
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:25,279
Do you have to take going back 
the last couple of years, the 

1426
01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:28,760
Packers who lost the home game, 
Think about what the NFL did. 

1427
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,840
They willingly took a home game 
from fabled Lamb. 

1428
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,600
And I've been Lambeau and it is 
amazing from fable. 

1429
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,560
Lambeau Field and gave it to 
Brazil. 

1430
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:43,520
Why why? 
And they took AI. 

1431
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,880
Think it was a chiefs game. 
I could be wrong so if so. 

1432
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,840
I mean I don't want to be unfair
but I thought it was a chiefs 

1433
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:50,640
home game. 
I thought they took one from 

1434
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,479
Arrowhead last year when the 
Chiefs and the Chargers may have

1435
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:55,720
been LA. 
Either way it's a rivalry. 

1436
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,479
It's a divisional matchup, 
meaning you only get X amount of

1437
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:03,560
you get 6. 
So you, I mean, if you want to 

1438
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:07,000
do this, don't do so many. 
If you want to do this, don't 

1439
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:11,160
deprive some of the fans of some
of the best venues and and 

1440
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:14,120
traditions in the NFL. 
And if you're going to do this, 

1441
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,279
certainly don't take it a 
rivalry game and throw it on 

1442
01:09:17,279 --> 01:09:20,120
foreign soil where you got it. 
You got to deal with different. 

1443
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,040
I mean, Australia, think about 
the different time zone, think 

1444
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,600
about the logistics to go play 
in Australia. 

1445
01:09:26,319 --> 01:09:29,600
You know, think about that this 
week. 

1446
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:33,680
We Rams Niners that game. 
Now this might seem a little 

1447
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,560
hyperbolic, but it's not big 
picture. 

1448
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:40,080
That game very well could 
determine, you know, home field 

1449
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,840
advantage or who wins the 
division in the NFC West. 

1450
01:09:44,359 --> 01:09:47,520
And it's going to Australia. 
Why? 

1451
01:09:48,279 --> 01:09:52,479
Somebody explained, well, the 
answer is money, which goes back

1452
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:56,440
to what I've always said, greed.
What is the limit? 

1453
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,360
How long are we going to be 
suckers? 

1454
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:01,720
You know, where's the game 
tonight? 

1455
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,640
I I don't know. 
Is it on even with the NBA? 

1456
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:11,160
Is it on Yankees opening day? 
Netflix, Yankees Giants, welcome

1457
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,040
to opening day on Netflix. 
And I love Netflix. 

1458
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:17,600
Not a knock on Netflix. 
It's just, it's just a 

1459
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:23,800
commentary on the stripping away
of fundamental traditions that 

1460
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,280
are happening more and more and 
more. 

1461
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,400
Let me just say that again, the 
Rams and the Niners, not the 

1462
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:36,400
Rams and the the Rams and the 
Raiders or The Jets and the 

1463
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:40,040
Niners or, you know, take some 
other team that is, you know, 

1464
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,640
not very good late. 
You know, we all know the bad, 

1465
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:46,080
the the Cardinals, not the 
Cardinals and the Browns in 

1466
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:47,960
Australia. 
If you're going to give them 

1467
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:51,360
something, give them something 
bad or give them our best stuff.

1468
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,440
And then you talk about a 
competitive disadvantage where 

1469
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:58,120
you literally lose a home game. 
You lose a home game. 

1470
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:02,520
So logistically it's an issue. 
And, you know, residually 

1471
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:06,600
downstream, it could really 
alter and impact the pecking 

1472
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:08,400
order of the NFL. 
And don't tell me that I'm 

1473
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,400
overreacting. 
Like, if you want to be just 

1474
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:15,080
some sort of zombie who accepts 
all this, well, that's on you. 

1475
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,600
That's never been me. 
Like, somebody's got to stand up

1476
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,240
for the fan. 
Somebody's got to stand up for 

1477
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:25,080
the the the consumer who built 
the NFL. 

1478
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,760
We did. 
Maybe I didn't, but my ancestors

1479
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:32,280
did and so did yours. 
You know, and I understand 

1480
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:37,720
things change, but just the 
limits of what they are willing 

1481
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:43,880
to do to you and us, it's off 
the charts unacceptable. 9 

1482
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:48,520
International games 9 and then 
you don't even know if the and I

1483
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:51,480
promise you, because we've heard
this before, all the conditions 

1484
01:11:51,480 --> 01:11:53,840
aren't great. 
The feel was slippery all I 

1485
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:55,920
wonder why? 
Because they're not used to 

1486
01:11:55,920 --> 01:12:02,200
doing this and they don't care. 
They don't care not at all. 

1487
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:06,480
They are just giving you, you 
know, which finger bang, they're

1488
01:12:06,480 --> 01:12:07,880
shoving it right down your 
throat. 

1489
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:09,720
Here, here's more. 
Here. 

1490
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:11,040
How much you going to take? 
Here's more. 

1491
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:15,400
Oh yeah, more up, sucker. 
Keep swiping that card. 

1492
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,920
Get the New Jersey. 
Get the new, the 4th jersey, the

1493
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,840
alternate jersey. 
Pay 100 bucks for parking. 

1494
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:25,040
Spend $7000 to go to. 
Now, some of these countries are

1495
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:27,240
beautiful. 
And again, it's not a knock on 

1496
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:28,560
the countries. 
It's really not. 

1497
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:32,640
But I don't know why the NFL is 
so fixated on turning their 

1498
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:36,200
sport into soccer. 
Somebody explain this to me. 

1499
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:48,080
Why, it is patently offensive at
this point, at least for me or 

1500
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:52,560
kids even playing American 
football in Europe, it's grown a

1501
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,960
little bit. 
You know, I mean, even listen, 

1502
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:59,440
even when the Yankees and the 
Red Sox went to London and the 

1503
01:12:59,440 --> 01:13:04,160
Mets and the Phillies and I, I 
do think personally that Japan's

1504
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:07,240
different because baseball 
thrives in Japan. 

1505
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,560
And when the, when, when Major 
League Baseball goes to Japan, 

1506
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:16,400
they're usually sending somebody
like a Hideki Matsui or Shohei 

1507
01:13:16,440 --> 01:13:18,400
Otani. 
You know, you're connecting the 

1508
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:22,560
thread of, of cultures and the 
game, even though the languages 

1509
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,200
and they play a little bit 
differently, you know, in terms 

1510
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,280
of style and, you know, put the 
bat on the ball. 

1511
01:13:28,480 --> 01:13:31,280
You know, definitely a broad 
brush statement, but more 

1512
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,040
fundamentally buttoned up in 
Japan than here. 

1513
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:35,640
Everybody's swinging for the 
moon. 

1514
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,880
Like back in Japan still, you 
strike out, you walk back to the

1515
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:42,440
dugout in shame like we used to.
I just struck out. 

1516
01:13:42,440 --> 01:13:44,320
Wow. 
I remember when I would strike 

1517
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:48,400
out, which was a lot in college,
Like I felt like I wanted to 

1518
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,600
crawl in a hole. 
Now these guys strike out, take 

1519
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:55,040
off the elbow guard, flip the 
helmet, take off the gloves, let

1520
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,920
the bat boy come get it. 
First base coach, flip the bat, 

1521
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,400
No big deal. 
I struck out 193 times this 

1522
01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:04,480
year, struck out 177 times this 
year. 

1523
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:08,080
My K rates 33. 
You know, and not to get into 

1524
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,080
baseball again because this is 
about football, but it's really 

1525
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:14,200
a great commentary about sport. 
The NBA does it now. 

1526
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:19,040
I really don't care. 
I don't care when the NBA does 

1527
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:20,360
it as much. 
I don't know why. 

1528
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,640
Maybe because homecourt 
advantage is, is less important.

1529
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:27,440
Although NFL home field 
advantage, it's a little 

1530
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:31,880
misstated how beneficial it is. 
You know, over the year, like 

1531
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,560
the stats have dropped a little 
bit favoring the home team. 

1532
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,080
It's, it's a, it's, it's a 
little bit more even a little 

1533
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,240
bit. 
But I'm talking about traditions

1534
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:43,040
like so you get with a 17 game 
season, you either get 9 home 

1535
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:47,640
games or you get 8. 
Now, why in the world should the

1536
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,840
Packer fans or the Chief fans? 
I'm thinking about some of the 

1537
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:55,400
great fan bases, the Bills fans,
the Niner fans, Giant fans, 

1538
01:14:55,640 --> 01:15:00,920
Eagle fans, Cowboy fans. 
Why should they be deprived of 

1539
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:05,080
their normal routine, getting in
their car, going to the stadium,

1540
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:08,320
tailgating for three hours, 
wearing their gear and walking 

1541
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:11,800
into their stadium. 
They got to get on a plane and 

1542
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:13,400
they got to go to, to, to 
Brazil. 

1543
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,960
You got to go to Australia. 
What in the world is going on 

1544
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,000
with this? 
I don't know. 

1545
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:23,240
I got to ask Jay Rod's opinion 
on this here, because Jay, you 

1546
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:26,800
have grown up in a world where 
this is kind of all, you know, 

1547
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,440
international game. 
So I I highly doubt that you've 

1548
01:15:30,440 --> 01:15:33,640
got as much of it of an issue as
as I do with this because I've 

1549
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,000
got a massive issue. 
But I'm curious what your take 

1550
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:37,600
is with. 
This well, I I think you're 

1551
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,840
right and I think, you know, the
reason it doesn't matter as much

1552
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,600
for basketball as well is 
obviously because the season is 

1553
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:46,760
just so much longer, you know, 
or not so much longer, but 

1554
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,600
there's so many games played. 
So, you know, you play one game 

1555
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:53,520
versus the 76ers in London and 
it doesn't really impact, you 

1556
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,960
know, your team's record or 
anything like that. 

1557
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:59,480
Meanwhile, with the NFL, NFL 
obviously much shorter season. 

1558
01:15:59,480 --> 01:16:01,920
So it really does matter. 
And I think that's where my 

1559
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,920
thought lies is is very similar 
to yours where it's like, you 

1560
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,640
know, for the NFL, maybe they 
shouldn't be doing these things 

1561
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:11,880
because, you know, it really 
impacts the the home fan base. 

1562
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,840
And yeah, while there are 
obviously international fans, I 

1563
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:17,640
mean, you can see from our boy 
St., like people do love it. 

1564
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:19,520
Absolutely. 
Overseas. 

1565
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:23,520
And I, I like the, I do like the
London experience, I do, but 

1566
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:25,640
it's just too much. 
I mean, we're just dotting the 

1567
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:27,120
entire world now with the with 
NFL. 

1568
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,480
I saw a good comment from our 
boy F your couch. 

1569
01:16:30,480 --> 01:16:34,640
He said, like, what if they did 
like an international week, you 

1570
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,760
know, so where they kind of 
consolidate it into one week 

1571
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,360
where it's not real, you know, 
where it doesn't nominate a 

1572
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:43,760
spread of the season, but maybe 
you have a bunch of games in 

1573
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,920
different countries still, but 
it's over one week rather than 

1574
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:49,680
that's actually dispersed. 
So I thought that was a smart 

1575
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,160
idea. 
I agree because yeah, I mean, I 

1576
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,320
think, you know, and I think for
baseball, you know. 

1577
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:56,120
Do they? 
Do they? 

1578
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:58,720
Not to ask a silly question 
here, yeah. 

1579
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,480
Do they play international MLB 
games? 

1580
01:17:01,480 --> 01:17:03,240
Or yeah, yeah, I know you were 
looking something up. 

1581
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:07,840
So obviously they go to Japan, 
they go to London, they've done 

1582
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:09,600
Australia. 
I remember when they went to 

1583
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,400
Australia. 
That is the plane flight where 

1584
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,240
Clayton Kershaw really where his
back. 

1585
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:16,480
This Dodger fans will remember 
this giant. 

1586
01:17:16,480 --> 01:17:18,560
I mean every baseball fan, if 
you're a big baseball fan, you 

1587
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,040
remember it where they may have 
been playing the D backs. 

1588
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:24,800
But the flight to Australia, 
that's when he started to really

1589
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:28,320
complain about his back issue. 
And the back issue was a real, I

1590
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,920
mean, Clayton Kershaw still one 
of the best lefties of all time.

1591
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:33,400
He probably left fifty wins on 
the table because he missed so 

1592
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,480
much time. 
And a lot of people look at that

1593
01:17:35,480 --> 01:17:38,600
flight to Australia. 
So yeah, the, the MLB's messed 

1594
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:42,280
around with it. 
But when you play 162 or 82 in 

1595
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:46,240
the NBA or the NHL, and I'm not 
averse to like an exhibition 

1596
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:49,040
contest, I know that you want to
plant roots and grow the game. 

1597
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,560
I I get it. 
And then when they do this, they

1598
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,960
do do a lot of good things 
around it where they'll have NFL

1599
01:17:54,960 --> 01:18:00,640
alums go and do like, clinics 
and showcases. 

1600
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:04,600
And then, you know, when down 
down the road, you know, kids 

1601
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:06,560
start playing a little bit, they
start watching. 

1602
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:08,440
The world has become smaller by 
the year. 

1603
01:18:08,440 --> 01:18:11,880
I understand all this. 
I'm not resistant to, you know, 

1604
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:14,760
expanding a little bit. 
But I got to have my limits here

1605
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:18,200
because, you know, this is also 
preemptively trying to at least 

1606
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:19,760
address because I can't prevent 
it. 

1607
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,680
I could just tell you what I 
think about what is going to 

1608
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:24,840
happen down the road. 
Just look at the trends. 

1609
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:28,160
This started in 2005. 
There was one, and then it went 

1610
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:32,480
up to five in 2017. 
Then it went up to seven last 

1611
01:18:32,480 --> 01:18:33,400
year. 
Now it's 9. 

1612
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:35,800
I mean, does anybody, I mean, if
you think that it's going to 

1613
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:37,600
remain at 9 for the for 
perpetuity, you're. 

1614
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,360
I feel it more than that it's. 
Going to be 15 before you look 

1615
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,000
up. 
I mean, every, there's going to 

1616
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:45,680
be a certain point where every 
team has one easy, yeah, 

1617
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:48,520
something like that. 
But in the Super Bowl take, the 

1618
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,520
Super Bowl take, I mean, you're 
so right. 

1619
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:51,640
Like it's definitely going to 
happen. 

1620
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:55,160
It's coming within maybe the 
next 10 years. 

1621
01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:58,280
I, I mean, I don't know if 
that's too ridiculous to state, 

1622
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:02,000
but I think a Mexico City one, I
think a lot. 

1623
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,080
London's rough. 
I don't know that's rough. 

1624
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:09,080
I, I think they could do it, but
I don't know if it, if it has 

1625
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:13,240
that much European boom as much 
as like, you know, I think 

1626
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:18,120
Mexico City is South America, 
there's still little America's 

1627
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:21,160
kind of familiarity with the 
sport. 

1628
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,960
So I think maybe in one of those
countries would be better. 

1629
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:27,680
But here's here's my luck. 
Watch this, this, this. 

1630
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,560
What's going to happen, right, 
is what's going to happen to me,

1631
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:32,840
Jets going to make the Super 
Bowl and going to be in fucking 

1632
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:36,520
Australia and I can't even go. 
Jets will finally make the Super

1633
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:40,120
Bowl and instead of playing like
an Indianapolis or out in 

1634
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:44,320
Scottsdale, AZ, or, you know, 
the the rest of the rotation, 

1635
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:46,840
I'm going to have to go to 
Australia, which means I 

1636
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:50,440
probably won't go. 
That would be horrible. 

1637
01:19:51,480 --> 01:19:52,520
I mean, that's what's going to 
happen. 

1638
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:55,520
You think Joe B is going to get 
on a plane to go to to go to 

1639
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:57,440
Brazil? 
No, no shot. 

1640
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:01,520
No, no shot. 
Give me a break with this man. 

1641
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:08,520
And really, I, I, I need to re 
re reinforce one thing here, 

1642
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:12,040
like there's a couple of issues 
at play #1 is just the sheer 

1643
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:15,960
amount, the mass volume. 
Of international games, problem 

1644
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:20,640
number one problem #2 and to me 
this is beginning to usurp 

1645
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:25,440
problem #1 is now they are 
taking rivalry games and putting

1646
01:20:25,440 --> 01:20:27,800
them there. 
Think about this now, all right,

1647
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:30,000
You want to tell me that the 
Packers and the Eagles are on a 

1648
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:33,040
rivalry, not in the same debates
like the Giants and the Cowboys 

1649
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,520
or the Cowboys and the Eagles, 
All right, the Commanders in 

1650
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:38,960
Dallas, I understand that. 
But the Packers and the Eagles 

1651
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,800
have as rich tradition as 
anybody in the NFL, right? 

1652
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,240
You put them in Brazil to open 
the season. 

1653
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:48,120
So Eagle fans, Packer fans, 
going through the draft and 

1654
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:51,320
going through OTAs and all the 
other stuff and following free 

1655
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,840
agency and going through 
training camp. 

1656
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:55,680
Hey, Week 1, let's get you sit 
down. 

1657
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:58,640
The game's in fucking Brazil. 
The game's in Brazil, right? 

1658
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:02,000
And then the next year you got 
the Chargers and the Chiefs. 

1659
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,640
Now, maybe the Chiefs and the 
Chiefs and the Raiders has a 

1660
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:07,520
little bit more static, you 
know, a little bit more 

1661
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:10,360
whatever, a little more 
friction, little more historical

1662
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:12,440
context there. 
Well, I mean, the Chargers been 

1663
01:21:12,440 --> 01:21:14,880
around forever in the AFL, so 
maybe not. 

1664
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:18,240
But the point is last year it's 
the Chargers and the Chiefs. 

1665
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:21,760
It's not even the Chargers and 
the Browns or the Chargers and 

1666
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,440
the Arizona Cardinals. 
It's the Cardinals and the 

1667
01:21:24,440 --> 01:21:27,160
Chiefs. 
Now this year it's the Rams in 

1668
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:30,120
the 49ers, the two best teams in
the NFC. 

1669
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,040
Oh, I mean Seattle actually won 
the won the Super Bowl, but you 

1670
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,280
know what I mean? 
I mean, two of the best teams in

1671
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:39,080
football and two teams that 
deserve this to be played on 

1672
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,560
American soil. 
You take in one of those two 

1673
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:43,880
games, you play twice, you play 
twice. 

1674
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,520
It's like the old days in 
baseball where you play 

1675
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,440
everybody 19 times. 
You know, Yanks play the Orioles

1676
01:21:49,440 --> 01:21:51,800
19 times, Yankees, Red Sox 19 
times. 

1677
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:55,000
Like they've kind of mixed up 
with schedule now, but you get 2

1678
01:21:55,000 --> 01:22:00,640
match ups. 1 is in Australia. 
This is ridiculous. 

1679
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:05,360
It is absolutely ridiculous. 
I really guys, I got to be 

1680
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,280
honest with you here. 
I don't understand why more of 

1681
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:12,320
you aren't bothered by this. 
How big of a sucker are you? 

1682
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:15,480
And I say that coming from a 
friendly place. 

1683
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:20,440
I'm not trying to antagonize you
and I'm certainly not trying to 

1684
01:22:20,440 --> 01:22:23,840
diss our international friends. 
I'm really not. 

1685
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,080
And I, I know that I said that 
at the top of this, but like, 

1686
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,840
that's important. 
Or I'd love to go to Australia 

1687
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:32,720
on a safari. 
Like on the Outback trip, you 

1688
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:37,440
know, I'd love to go to Rio de 
Janeiro, you know, and walk 

1689
01:22:37,440 --> 01:22:38,640
around. 
Well, I'm not going to walk 

1690
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:40,360
around in a banana in a banana 
hammock. 

1691
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:43,480
But like those those bikinis 
that are like the width of a 

1692
01:22:43,480 --> 01:22:46,880
Bento floss, sure, I'd go to Rio
named Nana. 

1693
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:48,880
Now I'm married, man. 
But you know, back in. 

1694
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:50,320
Yeah. 
Love to go to Rio de Janeiro. 

1695
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:51,960
Where do we go? 
And bachelor's party. 

1696
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,520
Let's go, boys, trip. 
Let's go to Brazil. 

1697
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:57,320
Love to do that. 
Love to go to Munich, Germany, 

1698
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,560
Right. 
I love one of my favorite 

1699
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:03,240
countries in Epcot. 
I love Epcot. 

1700
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,520
I love Disney that much, but I 
love Epcot. 

1701
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:09,160
And is Germany like get to Stein
a beer. 

1702
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,160
You take the little boat ride. 
Love to go to Munich, Germany a 

1703
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:14,080
little Oktoberfest. 
Be great. 

1704
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:17,160
Knock back some good beer, be 
awesome. 

1705
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:20,160
You know I've been to Mexico 
many times. 

1706
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:22,960
Beautiful. 
Stayed at some amazing resorts, 

1707
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,800
spent New Year's Eve there. 
Rang of the new year at in in 

1708
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:28,440
Mexico once, right? 
Awesome. 

1709
01:23:28,440 --> 01:23:29,960
Been there 2-3 times. 
Great. 

1710
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:35,720
Almost went this funny story 
Madrid now I always Jay, I 

1711
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:39,520
always talk about my very 
unimpressive scholastic record. 

1712
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:44,000
For whatever reason, I was 
really good in Spanish. 

1713
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:48,560
I was like, it rolled off the 
tongue and it, it just made 

1714
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,440
sense to my brain. 
And, you know, obviously once 

1715
01:23:51,440 --> 01:23:53,880
you learn how to conjugate all 
the, all, the, all the verbs and

1716
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:56,040
you just know the words, I mean,
it's, but then you've got to be 

1717
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:59,720
able to do it somewhat fluently.
And I mean, I was, you know, my,

1718
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:01,360
my grades, they were what they 
were. 

1719
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:05,120
But my junior year in high 
school, I was actually asked to 

1720
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:08,960
go abroad to Madrid. 
Holy, did you go? 

1721
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:10,800
No, it's during baseball season.
I couldn't. 

1722
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:15,320
There's no way I was gonna, you 
know, but I'd love to go. 

1723
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:17,520
Like if I wasn't an athlete, I 
would have loved to have gone to

1724
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:19,560
Madrid all those years ago. 
I'd love to go to Madrid now. 

1725
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:26,080
My mom's got probably it's 
called the yadro LLADRO. 

1726
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,560
You got to make the L sound like
the Y, you know how it is. 

1727
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,280
Got to accent the the proper 
yadro, right? 

1728
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:36,080
Got to roll the R and like the 
it's yadro is it's like a is it 

1729
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:39,240
like a ceramic? 
It's like a collectible company.

1730
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:40,920
It's Oh yeah, my mom's got a 
ton. 

1731
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:44,320
Very valuable, beautiful. 
I love to go to Madrid, bring a 

1732
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:45,960
couple of yadros back for my 
mom. 

1733
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:48,320
I don't want to go to Madrid to 
watch a football game. 

1734
01:24:50,440 --> 01:24:52,120
No, no way. 
Running with the bulls. 

1735
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:55,160
Get the sword, get it out. 
Let's see who's going to win. 

1736
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:57,480
Is the bull going to win? 
Or is the other guy the, the 

1737
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,440
whatever you call that guy the, 
the the matador, right? 

1738
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,920
Who's going to win? 
Is he going to get spiked? 

1739
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,440
And is the bull going to win or 
is he just going to keep shoving

1740
01:25:05,440 --> 01:25:09,080
that sword in his side until he 
dies a slow death, which by the 

1741
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:12,480
way, is really my sister did the
running of the bulls. 

1742
01:25:12,480 --> 01:25:15,160
No way. 
Like you're insane. 

1743
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,200
So this is where I stand on this
stuff, man. 

1744
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:21,920
And I'm not trying to come 
across as the the narrow minded,

1745
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:25,320
like the American lout who just 
doesn't see the big picture. 

1746
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:28,920
I think that I'm fairly 
sophisticated, fairly, not 

1747
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,720
overly, but fairly just enough 
to pass to get by. 

1748
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:35,680
And I certainly think that I 
understand business and I know I

1749
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:40,080
understand how the fans think 
because I am 1 and I I just 

1750
01:25:40,480 --> 01:25:43,360
there was the the lack of 
resistance to this is just 

1751
01:25:43,480 --> 01:25:50,160
incredibly disappointing. 
I I don't get it getting worked 

1752
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:51,720
up here. 
I dropped my glasses all right, 

1753
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:56,320
don't want to best don't want to
burst this this date and time 

1754
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,560
2379 don't want to burst The 
Jets bubbles. 

1755
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:01,960
But dude, you can't, you can't, 
no matter what you say, the 

1756
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:05,040
bubbles been burst. 
All right, The Jets will move to

1757
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,760
get the hell out of here long 
term bed. 

1758
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:09,840
All right, I mean, I wonder what
the odds are. 

1759
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:11,760
I mean, you say you throw it a 
little future. 

1760
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:15,480
I mean, listen, if it's plus 
7000, I might throw 100 bucks on

1761
01:26:15,480 --> 01:26:16,840
that. 
I mean, listen, if they're not 

1762
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:18,880
winning by then, I won't give a 
shit where they go. 

1763
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:20,920
Not really. 
I don't think I'll care. 

1764
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:23,760
So maybe you're not crazy. 
And there has been a little bit 

1765
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:26,960
of thought of that. 
Woody, you know, obviously under

1766
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:29,240
the the first Trump 
administration was out there. 

1767
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,920
I who the hell knows what his 
other business. 

1768
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:33,640
I just hope Woody doesn't own 
the team by then. 

1769
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:37,080
So hopefully the whomever, maybe
Cohen owns it and Cohen just 

1770
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:39,760
wants to build some more casinos
around MetLife and The Jets are 

1771
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:42,040
here to stay. 
Or maybe they actually move The 

1772
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:44,080
Jets back to Queens around EI. 
Don't know. 

1773
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:46,400
I can't start getting wrapped up
and that Jet's going to move to 

1774
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:49,800
London, but somebody is, I mean,
or just going to be an expansion

1775
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:52,600
team, you know? 
Oh man, old man. 

1776
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:56,240
Man, Yeah, man, that would just 
stink. 

1777
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,400
You're a player. 
And it's like, no, not that. 

1778
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:01,480
You know, I studied for London 
abroad for like a month, dude. 

1779
01:27:01,480 --> 01:27:04,360
It's like, I think that's the 
best city, the best city on 

1780
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:06,560
earth. 
But I dude, it is incredible out

1781
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:07,440
there. 
I know, I know. 

1782
01:27:07,440 --> 01:27:11,080
But to be an NFL player, like if
all your families like in 

1783
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:14,560
America and all of a sudden you 
got traded to London, you would 

1784
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,000
just be like. 
Well, think about this now. 

1785
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,320
This is down the road. 
I don't want to get too wrapped 

1786
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:22,240
up with this now, but yeah, I 
mean, the residual impact of 

1787
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:24,680
that when it does happen, 
because it will happen, whether 

1788
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:26,880
it's The Jets or the Jags or 
expansion team, it's going to 

1789
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:30,360
happen. 
Think about, think about, I 

1790
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:34,080
would say a competitive 
disadvantage for those teams 

1791
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:37,960
when it comes to free agency. 
Oh my gosh, I mean you. 

1792
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:42,200
Almost have to have a built in 
concession or maybe those 

1793
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:46,480
international teams get a 
different salary cap to adhere 

1794
01:27:46,480 --> 01:27:48,680
to based on the depending upon 
where you are and the 

1795
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:50,560
translation of the dollar. 
There's so much shit to get 

1796
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:51,960
into. 
I don't want to get into it now,

1797
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:55,200
but it's just, yeah, man. 
It bothers me to my core. 

1798
01:27:55,360 --> 01:28:00,000
It's happening more and more and
more and more and more and like 

1799
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:03,320
suckers and like zombies. 
Too many of you take it. 

1800
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:07,800
Too many of you take it. 
So I'm done with my spiel on 

1801
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,800
that. 
I knew I was going to air the 

1802
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:12,360
tank, empty the tank on that a 
little bit. 

1803
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:15,160
How to empty the chamber Every 
time this comes up, I don't care

1804
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:16,520
what. 
Even when I was doing this now, 

1805
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:19,480
Tiki didn't care as much, right?
Tiki was thinking about it from 

1806
01:28:19,480 --> 01:28:22,440
business and I'm like I I get 
the business point. 

1807
01:28:22,440 --> 01:28:27,240
Tiki, I got an idiot I. 
Get it, I get the business, but 

1808
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:30,680
whenever this comes up and I 
started digging my heels in on 

1809
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:33,160
this, you can go find some stuff
doing the, doing the national 

1810
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:37,000
stuff with T probably about a 
decade or not, not quite with 

1811
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:42,280
this, this fervent pushback, but
I was always a little resistant 

1812
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:45,400
to it, whether it was a 
logistical disadvantage or 

1813
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:48,520
whatever it might be. 
It's just too much the gluttony 

1814
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:49,880
in sports. 
I don't need to keep going. 

1815
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:51,760
You guys know where I stand. 
You know what I said. 

1816
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:55,360
And by the way, if you disagree,
I, I, I'm open to a little 

1817
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:57,400
dialogue here. 
I mean, I, I, I'm not saying 

1818
01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:00,120
that my way's got to be right 
for everybody, but I'm telling 

1819
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,360
you unequivocally my way is 
right for me. 

1820
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:05,360
That is for damn sure, 
especially with this, you know, 

1821
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:06,720
Jay and. 
Your big Tom all. 

1822
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:10,200
Right, So what else we got? 
Thank you to the Cavaliers last 

1823
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:12,840
night as they can. 
Yeah, let's go. 

1824
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:14,640
Stretch it out, baby, Stretch 
it. 

1825
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:18,800
Out yeah, it's nice. 
It is nice. 

1826
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:23,320
I mean especially, you know, now
it you know now it really opens 

1827
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:26,920
up the the impossibility for it 
to really go 7. 

1828
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:30,520
You know, not the, the 
probability, the likelihood of 

1829
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:35,040
this series going 7. 
And I, I mean, what are, I guess

1830
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:39,080
you said it kind of yesterday if
OG was fully healthy, maybe you 

1831
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:42,280
don't like it as much, but the 
fact that he's a little banged 

1832
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:44,440
up, you'll like the extra rest 
that they're getting. 

1833
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:48,240
I do I I love it. 
I mean, first of all, OG, you 

1834
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:54,080
know, listen, if St. the Knicks 
would have lost Game 4, I think 

1835
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:56,240
I'm not saying I would have. 
I think there was a chance that 

1836
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:57,680
we're going to run them out 
there in game five. 

1837
01:29:57,680 --> 01:29:59,640
Hopefully prudence would have 
won out. 

1838
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:01,720
So I don't I don't know what 
we'll never know because they 

1839
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:04,360
just broomed them and we never 
got a chance to know, which is a

1840
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:06,600
good thing. 
There wasn't dude. 

1841
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:09,400
But I listen, OG should be fine.
I mean, he's had a lot of say. 

1842
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:12,760
It was not a severe, it was not 
the IT was like the so the 

1843
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:16,080
lowest grade spread the grade. 
I always get confused. 

1844
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:18,400
Grade 1. 
I know there's three grades. 

1845
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:21,200
Three is a complete tear. 
Three's the worst or one's the 

1846
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:22,480
worst. 
I think 3's the worst. 

1847
01:30:23,440 --> 01:30:27,000
So you had a Grade 1, the level 
of severity goes up 1 basically 

1848
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:29,320
not a big deal too. 
You know, you're going to be out

1849
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:31,240
maybe a month or so, maybe a 
couple of weeks. 

1850
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:34,120
And then week grade three you, 
you got massive problems where 

1851
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:36,600
you're out for multiple months 
because it's basically a full 

1852
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:39,640
rupture or a full disconnect 
with the where the hamstring 

1853
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:42,520
becomes disconnected there. 
So then that didn't happen, 

1854
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:46,000
thank God. 
But it pretty much did happen to

1855
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:47,680
him a couple of years ago 
against the Pacers. 

1856
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:50,000
You know, even though we came 
back and he played that Game 7 

1857
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:53,040
and stuck at 3:00 to start the 
game from the corner, this now 

1858
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:57,120
to me, the way it sets up a 
series obviously tied up at 2. 

1859
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:00,000
Game 5 is on Wednesday. 
That's going to be in Detroit. 

1860
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:01,640
I think the Pistons win that 
game. 

1861
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:04,840
Game six Friday at the Cavs. 
I think the Cavaliers win that 

1862
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:07,160
game. 
I believe there's going to be 7 

1863
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:10,720
games if necessary Sunday in 
Detroit either way. 

1864
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:14,040
Now, I believe and and it's a 
little convoluted here because 

1865
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:15,560
there's still so many 
possibilities. 

1866
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:19,600
I don't know if it was updated 
today, but if let's just say, 

1867
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:24,360
let's say it's over Friday, 
let's say either one of the two 

1868
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:25,680
teams. 
It's amazing that we're giving 

1869
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:27,480
the Cavs now a chance to 
actually win the series. 

1870
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:29,840
I know, I know, right? 
So say if the Cavs or the 

1871
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:33,120
Pistons, I still think it'll be 
the Pistons, but the Pistons win

1872
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:37,080
two of the next two games. 
Well, the next game, that would 

1873
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:39,760
be Friday night. 
Would they play Monday? 

1874
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:42,200
Obviously not playing Saturday. 
I don't think you're playing 

1875
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:44,840
Sunday. 
And I think it would be Monday. 

1876
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:47,520
Like I had one version, but I've
I've got to update it because 

1877
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:50,080
this is now a little wrinkle, 
which is great. 

1878
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:52,240
Either way, massive advantage 
for the Knicks. 

1879
01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:56,640
And you know, I thought, listen,
just to stick to this series for

1880
01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:58,480
a minute here. 
Really rough night again, 

1881
01:31:58,480 --> 01:32:01,040
related to start Tuesday no 
matter what. 

1882
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:03,360
Yeah, no matter what. 
No matter what. 

1883
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:08,200
So if game seven, No, no even. 
No. 

1884
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:11,240
OK, even if there's a game seven
I. 

1885
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:13,040
Believe so, because that would 
end Sunday, right? 

1886
01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:15,240
That would end Sunday. 
Oh man, that would be. 

1887
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:18,680
That's kind of like what? 
That would be disastrous for 

1888
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:20,760
whoever wins. 
Oh my God, for me. 

1889
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:22,840
It wouldn't be it. 
Would be it would be incredible 

1890
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:23,560
for the Knicks. 
Well. 

1891
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:26,800
That that would Jay that would 
basically be be what happened to

1892
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:30,200
the Sixers in the Celtic series 
where you almost have to flush 

1893
01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:32,320
game now game one down the 
chute. 

1894
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:33,960
I think the Pistons are better 
than the Sixers. 

1895
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:35,320
I think the Cavs are better than
the Sixers. 

1896
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:37,720
Whatever they don't have the 
injury issue like Embiid and 

1897
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:41,000
then he's obviously a different 
physical situation. 

1898
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:44,080
But man, if that's if you're 
positive that even if there's a 

1899
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:48,160
Game 7, which would be Sunday in
Detroit, that game two, no 

1900
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:52,680
matter what starts on, pardon 
me, game one starts in for the 

1901
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:55,600
Eastern Conference finals on 
Tuesday with one off day slash 

1902
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:56,800
travel. 
Yeah. 

1903
01:32:56,800 --> 01:33:03,240
I mean it says May 19th is the 
day, but if it ended earlier 

1904
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:05,040
there would be the expedited 
day. 

1905
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:07,200
That's what I thought. 
Look what, like it's going to 

1906
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:10,000
happen on May 17th. 
OK, you know, that's definitely 

1907
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:12,040
not going to happen there. 
So there you go. 

1908
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:15,320
And, you know, now Justin J just
going to be back up on the one 

1909
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:18,440
shot real quick, buddy there if 
now you got to start looking 

1910
01:33:18,440 --> 01:33:21,320
here at, you know, can the 
Cavaliers actually win the 

1911
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:23,720
series? 
And you know, I love Kate 

1912
01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:25,680
Cunningham. 
He's one of the next absolute 

1913
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:28,760
true superstars in the NBA. 
But you know, he's not there 

1914
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:29,680
yet. 
We know that. 

1915
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:32,560
I don't think the Pistons were 
there yet in terms of being the 

1916
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:35,200
championship team, neither of 
the Cavs, but the way they 

1917
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:38,480
defended Kate Cunningham last 
night made him very, very 

1918
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:41,000
uncomfortable. 
Firstly, didn't shoot well, I 

1919
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:43,080
think he was like 7 for 19 low 
percentage. 

1920
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:45,680
But when they kept rolling the 
double and they were trapped and

1921
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:49,160
where they were trapping him, 
you know, along like near the 

1922
01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:51,480
opponent's bench where their 
bench where he just had nowhere 

1923
01:33:51,480 --> 01:33:53,880
to go. 
It wasn't necessarily in the 

1924
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:55,920
middle of the court. 
It really limited what they 

1925
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:57,480
could do. 
Like once he crosses midcourt 

1926
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:01,920
inside the half court set, they 
were very opportunistic and very

1927
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:03,920
on point running that second 
defender at him. 

1928
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:05,720
AI don't think he recognized it 
quickly enough. 

1929
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:11,320
This is something Brunson deals 
with and but at 6566 Cunningham 

1930
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:13,320
could grow, throw over the top 
on like Jalen. 

1931
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:15,800
So you know, he had five more 
turnovers. 

1932
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:17,960
Mitchell was great. 
I mean Mitchell 40 plus points, 

1933
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:20,440
whatever it was. 
And I thought Mobley was really,

1934
01:34:20,440 --> 01:34:21,960
really good. 
Five block shots. 

1935
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:24,440
You don't see that too much 
outside of Wembe and you know, 

1936
01:34:24,440 --> 01:34:28,320
maybe and that's pretty much it.
I mean, five block shots, even 

1937
01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:31,040
Mitch doesn't really swat five. 
That is a massive number. 

1938
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:33,560
That's like Hakeem Olajuwon. 
That's like young Patrick Ewing.

1939
01:34:33,560 --> 01:34:36,360
That's like Shaq. 
So I'm not saying Mobley's like 

1940
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:39,320
that, but they are an 
interesting team and they've 

1941
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:41,760
always been an interesting team.
Now to me at this point, any 

1942
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:44,800
team with James Harden on that 
team is going nowhere. 

1943
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,920
I'm not a James Harden believer.
I'm not a James Harden fan. 

1944
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:51,320
He has been incredibly low 
efficient. 

1945
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:53,040
His efficiency has been very 
low. 

1946
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:56,160
I should say this series and the
other day, I don't understand 

1947
01:34:56,160 --> 01:35:00,280
why they were talking about, you
know, and and listen, I love, I 

1948
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:01,560
love their coach, Long Island 
guy. 

1949
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:04,040
I absolutely love them. 
They got hosed by the Nets too. 

1950
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:07,000
But and I know why he was doing 
it, taking the bullet that would

1951
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:10,920
have been after. 
Is that after game one? 

1952
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:12,360
Maybe it was game one. 
Let me see. 

1953
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:16,880
Or maybe it was game three. 
Maybe it was game three. 

1954
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:19,840
Either way, he was taking the 
bullets for Harden saying, you 

1955
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:21,760
know, he only took three shots 
in the second-half. 

1956
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:23,840
We got to do a better job. 
Hey, Harden's got to do a better

1957
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:25,120
job. 
I understand what you're doing, 

1958
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:26,240
coach. 
I respect that. 

1959
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:29,680
And that's the mark of, you 
know, a man trying to shield one

1960
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:32,600
of the star players. 
But does anybody trust James 

1961
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:34,200
Harden? 
I mean, certainly at this age. 

1962
01:35:34,440 --> 01:35:36,400
I mean, just go back to when he 
was still in his prime. 

1963
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:39,280
I mean, the guy was was 
terrified to take shots against 

1964
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:42,120
the Warriors if you watch those 
series, but he was just passing 

1965
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:44,800
up open looks. 
I'm just not a hardened guy, Not

1966
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:49,240
not great skill, great pure 
score, great pure three level 

1967
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:52,440
score, can shoot from, you know,
from range, can get to the rim. 

1968
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:55,800
And obviously, you know, you got
some mid range work as well. 

1969
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:59,160
But you know, I mean, if it's 
the Cavaliers, I I prefer to 

1970
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:03,000
play the Cavaliers myself. 
And I just think that the Knicks

1971
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:05,120
bigs would would push around 
their bigs. 

1972
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:07,600
We're still a little bit young. 
Certainly Mobley Allen's been 

1973
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:09,360
around a while. 
Yeah. 

1974
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:12,320
Great respect for Donovan 
Mitchell and Mitchell in the 

1975
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:15,560
Garden and we saw it on 
Christmas is a little bit 

1976
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:20,080
worrisome, you know, New York 
kid coming home and, OK, like, 

1977
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:22,040
you know, you really want to 
mess around with that potential 

1978
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:24,240
magic from him. 
But I'd rather play the 

1979
01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:27,000
Cavaliers. 
I I think every Knick fan would 

1980
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:29,720
and should, but I don't know. 
I mean, you flip a coin if you 

1981
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:31,480
tell me at this point the 
Cavaliers going to win. 

1982
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:33,360
I don't even know what the odds 
are. 

1983
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:35,520
Jay, do me a favor. 
You know, I could do this. 

1984
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:37,040
I'll do probably get this 
quicker. 

1985
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:40,120
I would say I have not looked at
the odds for the rest of the 

1986
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:43,080
series. 
I would say that the Pistons are

1987
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:49,520
-170 if I had to take a guess, 
Pistons, cabs, remaining odds. 

1988
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:52,800
I'm going to say about 170. 
-125. 

1989
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:54,280
Oh, that's it. 
Wow. 

1990
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:59,040
No, I'm see, all right -160 I'm 
seeing different books, 

1991
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:02,800
different numbers. 
Yeah, bad on mine. 

1992
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:04,680
And I'm usually good with those 
numbers there. 

1993
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:07,840
Wow. 
And now what are the by? 

1994
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:11,160
By contrast, what would the 
Cavaliers be on the plus side? 

1995
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:12,960
Well, they. 
Said one O 5. 

1996
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:16,720
Cavaliers are plus one O 5. 
That's what it says. 

1997
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:18,840
From Win the series. 
Easy central. 

1998
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:20,120
Really. 
Yeah. 

1999
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:22,720
All right, all right. 
Interesting. 

2000
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:24,960
Nobody really knows what's going
on with that series. 

2001
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:27,600
So you got to protect the vig. 
You got to keep it kind of 

2002
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:29,680
close. 
Yeah, BAE. 

2003
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:33,560
I mean what? 
Else we got here. 

2004
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:36,320
We may have watched Lebron's 
last game. 

2005
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:37,520
Not that I watched it last 
night. 

2006
01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:40,960
Maybe I didn't want. 
Do you, what do you think on 

2007
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:44,560
that? 
Like, it's tough because, you 

2008
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:46,920
know, and I've heard it from 
Lakers fans and I've heard it 

2009
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:50,040
from Warriors fans a little bit 
with, you know, Stephen Draymond

2010
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:54,040
now where it's just like it's 
tough because you keep LeBron. 

2011
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:57,200
And obviously, even if you're 
not giving him supermax 

2012
01:37:57,200 --> 01:38:02,000
$67,000,000 a season, whatever, 
you know you still got to give 

2013
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:05,920
him a a sizable chunk of change 
to keep him on your team. 

2014
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:07,480
No you don't. 
He could take the mid level. 

2015
01:38:07,480 --> 01:38:09,320
Why not? 
Do you think he would? 

2016
01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:10,680
I, I, I don't know, but he 
could. 

2017
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:12,600
I mean, if he really wants to 
keep playing, really wants to 

2018
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:16,880
win, he certainly could see to, 
to me, I I don't know if he 

2019
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:18,840
will, but he could. 
I mean he could take the mid 

2020
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:20,720
level exception can absolutely 
do that. 

2021
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:23,960
I don't, you know, and I listen,
I this guy's like my favorite 

2022
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:29,240
player ever, but like I, I, I'm 
from, I'm from 2002. 

2023
01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:30,880
I know, I know I'm just teasing 
dude. 

2024
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:37,040
I get it, I get it, I get you, 
but I just don't see him as the 

2025
01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:41,240
kind of guy that take less money
than like $30 million like that.

2026
01:38:41,240 --> 01:38:43,320
Never. 
That just doesn't hit me as a 

2027
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:46,960
LeBron move. 
And I don't, I don't necessarily

2028
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:49,400
think it's because he's full of 
himself or something like that. 

2029
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:53,400
I just, it doesn't, he doesn't 
hit me as the guy currently 

2030
01:38:53,480 --> 01:38:56,840
who's going to compromise money 
in hopes of winning. 

2031
01:38:56,960 --> 01:39:00,560
I think he's past winning. 
I I don't think he cares at all 

2032
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:02,880
about winning. 
I don't you to make me defend 

2033
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:04,400
LeBron. 
I think that that's unfair. 

2034
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:08,360
Really listen, I know he's still
pad in the stats and I think 

2035
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:12,400
that in his mind, every time he,
you know, establishes a new 

2036
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:15,840
record and the more he plays, 
the more records he's busting in

2037
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:17,760
his mind. 
That's the way he justifies the 

2038
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:20,280
go conversation because now that
you know what I mean, there's 

2039
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:23,880
tangible numbers and you know, 
you grew up, you're a LeBron 

2040
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:26,120
guy. 
I grew up, I'm an MJ guy, right?

2041
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:31,040
And I think that the next 
generation and certainly the 

2042
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:33,760
generation after that where they
will and they'll, there's always

2043
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:35,480
somebody else that's going to 
come along the way that's going 

2044
01:39:35,480 --> 01:39:37,240
to at least insert themselves 
into the conversation. 

2045
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:39,920
We all know that no matter what 
the sport is, but down the road,

2046
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:42,800
multiple generations down the 
road, there's going to be 

2047
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:46,920
tangible evidence if to easily 
support that. 

2048
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:48,320
Lebron's the greatest of all 
time. 

2049
01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:50,880
Now, I don't think he is. 
I don't think I've said that 

2050
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:53,680
many times. 
I think it's mji think Kareem's 

2051
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:56,320
better. 
Lebron's in my top five. 

2052
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:58,240
You know, I would look at Magic 
and Bird as well. 

2053
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:00,720
You want to look at a Russell. 
You want to look at a will. 

2054
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:02,480
Whatever. 
I'm not to even get to that list

2055
01:40:02,480 --> 01:40:07,520
right now, but the The thing is 
when you open up the NBA record 

2056
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:10,120
books digitally. 
If you could do it now, but 

2057
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:13,160
especially down the road, I 
mean, if you never saw LeBron 

2058
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:15,120
play where you're young now and 
you saw him at the end of his 

2059
01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:18,720
career, like I saw the end of 
Kareem and the end of the end of

2060
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:23,400
Doctor J, very end of Doctor J, 
you know, Well, now you're going

2061
01:40:23,400 --> 01:40:26,520
to lean on some numbers to 
support your case because you 

2062
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:29,080
never saw Jordan. 
And if you didn't see Jordan, 

2063
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:31,560
Jordan's not the all time 
leading scorer. 

2064
01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:35,000
Jordan doesn't have the playoff 
Marks and records and 

2065
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:37,720
accumulation of minutes and 
stats and triple, double S and 

2066
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:41,240
all the things Lebron's done. 
Now, that's been a product of a 

2067
01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:43,960
few things. 
Number one, Lebron's great #2 

2068
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:47,320
LeBron has been incredibly 
durable and #3 he's played. 

2069
01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:50,640
He's played more than anybody. 
I mean, what, 23 years, 2223 

2070
01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:53,040
years? 
He's 40 he's got the body of a 

2071
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:55,560
of a 29 year old that's 
absolutely amazing and he could 

2072
01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:59,720
still play and here Jay, here's 
why here's why I think that 

2073
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:03,760
there's a chance that he does 
take the mid level. 

2074
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:05,000
Actually, let me let me roll 
through this here. 

2075
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:05,960
I want to get into this right 
now. 

2076
01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:10,320
So to me, I look at this, that 
just get me up on the sing. 

2077
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:12,600
I want, I want to be able to, 
you get to say, yeah, thank you,

2078
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:14,760
buddy, Not to get rid of Jay, 
but I want to, you know, got to 

2079
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:16,880
pump out the content later on, 
you know, you know what I'm 

2080
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:18,480
saying, Jay, you know, I love 
you, buddy. 

2081
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:20,480
I got you. 
I, I think, yeah. 

2082
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:22,400
I think there's a couple of ways
to look at it. 

2083
01:41:22,440 --> 01:41:25,080
There's three basic questions 
and I'll try to, I'll try to 

2084
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:28,280
walk through this. 
Number one, will he play #2 can 

2085
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:31,000
he still play #3 where should he
play? 

2086
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:34,920
Will he play? 
Now, I did watch his press 

2087
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:37,280
conference this morning after 
last night's game. 

2088
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:39,880
I didn't watch the game. 
I wasn't even on my radar, quite

2089
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:41,280
frankly. 
I was watching the Yankees fall 

2090
01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:43,960
apart in a bullpen. 
Both of my kids had games. 

2091
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:45,480
So I really didn't care about 
LeBron. 

2092
01:41:45,480 --> 01:41:47,720
I knew they were they get a 
little series over. 

2093
01:41:48,160 --> 01:41:52,280
So but I wanted to hear what he 
said after the game and he 

2094
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:55,320
talked and this this I get. 
He talked about the process. 

2095
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:59,000
He talked about the commitment. 
See, I think that, you know, 

2096
01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:02,760
some of you probably think that 
LeBron, you know, works out in 

2097
01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:05,800
the offseason that does a little
stretching, you know, comes to 

2098
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:08,520
the arena, plays ball, and he's 
just a superhero. 

2099
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:11,400
It's not the case. 
You know, LeBron, now maybe this

2100
01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:13,280
is a bit of an embellishment, 
but he said, hey, we have an 

2101
01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:16,560
11:00 practice. 
I'm at the building at 8:00 in 

2102
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:18,440
the morning, basically getting 
my body ready. 

2103
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:21,400
You know, it's, it's like the 
old Camaro in the the garage. 

2104
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:23,080
Like it needs a lot of tune ups,
man. 

2105
01:42:23,440 --> 01:42:25,680
It might look good, but you got 
to make sure that that thing's 

2106
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:28,240
got everything. 
I'm not a big car guy, so I'm 

2107
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:29,760
not sure. 
Proper oil, whatever. 

2108
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:31,960
Even though it's much deeper 
than that, you know, the fan 

2109
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:35,800
belts still work, you know, and 
to get those fan belts working, 

2110
01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:38,560
you know, you got to get those 
wrenches out earlier. 

2111
01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:42,240
And it's a deep, it's a, it's an
intense stretching routine. 

2112
01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:47,480
It's an it's an intense workout 
routine and I'm beginning to see

2113
01:42:47,480 --> 01:42:49,000
signs. 
So the first question, will he 

2114
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:50,840
play? 
I think, I'm sorry, I could be 

2115
01:42:50,840 --> 01:42:52,240
wrong. 
I think I'm starting to see 

2116
01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:55,840
signs that I think LeBron right 
now is leaning more toward not 

2117
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:58,120
playing. 
And, and I get it, like you're 

2118
01:42:58,120 --> 01:43:02,320
starting to see LeBron play a 
lot of golf and you just got to 

2119
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:04,240
wonder like it didn't you know, 
he got to play with his son. 

2120
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:07,000
Didn't really work out, not to 
take a shot of Bronny, but that 

2121
01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:07,760
happened. 
Check. 

2122
01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:09,960
He's got all his championships 
checked, he's got all the 

2123
01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:12,320
records checked. 
So, you know, legacy secured. 

2124
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:14,680
No matter what he does, no 
matter where he goes, he's never

2125
01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:16,960
going to be the GOAT in the eyes
of many, including me. 

2126
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:20,600
So he doesn't need to chase that
I, I don't think, although I'm 

2127
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:22,440
going to throw down 1 little 
asterisk here. 

2128
01:43:22,440 --> 01:43:26,320
And, and where he could be 
goaded by some who could be 

2129
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:27,920
converted. 
Not me, not me. 

2130
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:30,600
I'll get to that in a minute. 
So will he play? 

2131
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:35,080
Man, the physical investment 
that it takes to prepare for a 

2132
01:43:35,080 --> 01:43:38,080
season and the maintenance 
throughout a season, I think 

2133
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:42,040
he's probably on the other side.
I think he's getting to a point 

2134
01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:44,120
where he's ready to check out of
that. 

2135
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:48,240
I'm not mad at you, man. 
He has been his body's been a 

2136
01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:51,560
temple and to keep it looking 
like that and humming like that 

2137
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:55,240
and producing like that, you're 
doing stuff that it's just not 

2138
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:59,240
many people at this age do 
anymore, especially in the sport

2139
01:43:59,560 --> 01:44:01,360
like basketball. 
I mean, it's one thing to be, 

2140
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:04,480
you know, like in your late 40s,
you're a golfer. 

2141
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:06,840
You can still crank it off the 
team, even like Freddie Couple 

2142
01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:08,240
showing up at the Masters day 
one. 

2143
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:10,960
I know he, yeah, I think he took
an 8 on one of the holes this 

2144
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:12,880
year. 
But even in the 60s, I mean, 

2145
01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:15,920
over the last 10 years, Freddie 
Couple shows up, Boom, boom's on

2146
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:18,200
the first page of the 
leaderboard dropping to 65. 

2147
01:44:18,480 --> 01:44:21,640
And that is the weekend goes on.
You know, he stalls out, he 

2148
01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:23,760
fades out because he's older, 
you know, and he just, his body 

2149
01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:25,560
can't quite do it. 
You could do it in golf. 

2150
01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:28,520
You could even be a quarterback,
you know, and the way the rules 

2151
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:32,400
are set up and you know, if 
you're a pocket guy, you know 

2152
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:34,240
you're not going to get hit. 
If you've got the right 

2153
01:44:34,240 --> 01:44:36,640
coaching, you got a good old 
line, you're going to run the 

2154
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:38,440
ball a little bit. 
You know, you have some windows 

2155
01:44:38,440 --> 01:44:40,800
to throw. 
You could still do that, like 

2156
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:43,400
Brady and Peyton and many others
as well. 

2157
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:45,280
And Drew Brees played for a long
time. 

2158
01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:48,280
Tough to do that in the NBAI 
think even in hockey you can 

2159
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:50,760
probably get away with it. 
Like Ray Bourke played forever. 

2160
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:52,800
How about that? 
Impressed with the hockey 

2161
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:55,080
knowledge there, Jay, in hockey,
you could do it. 

2162
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:58,560
I think in baseball, if you were
a Leaf pitcher like Mariano or 

2163
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:00,920
even a starter like Clement, 
although Clemens was, you know, 

2164
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:04,840
doing some other stuff. 
But Nolan Ryan, you know, if 

2165
01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:09,640
you're a if you're a baseball 
position player and you know, 

2166
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:12,120
you're a middle of the diamond, 
shortstop, center field kind of 

2167
01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:16,000
guy, maybe move to a corner, 
maybe move to third, maybe move 

2168
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:19,520
to first, maybe you just ADH. 
It is hard to hide in the NBA 

2169
01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:21,320
now. 
Now he's not playing defense 

2170
01:45:21,320 --> 01:45:22,840
with any sort of purpose at this
point. 

2171
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:25,320
You know, he's just not. 
But he's still running, you 

2172
01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:27,280
know, a ton of miles a night. 
They track this stuff. 

2173
01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:29,600
And his top rate of speed is 
still really good. 

2174
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:32,440
And he could still finish at the
rim, man, He still could. 

2175
01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:36,280
And to be able to do that, what 
you're asking your body to do, 

2176
01:45:36,440 --> 01:45:38,480
how realistic is it? 
How much? 

2177
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:43,080
And it's realistic if he does 
what he always does in 

2178
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:45,080
preparation and the maintenance 
throughout. 

2179
01:45:45,440 --> 01:45:48,000
But back to the first question, 
will he play? 

2180
01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:51,960
I'm kind of leaning toward no. 
All right, but let's suspend 

2181
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:53,960
that for a moment. 
Let's have the conversation. 

2182
01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:57,160
What if my answer was yes? 
Well, now the question is number

2183
01:45:57,160 --> 01:45:59,880
2, can he still play? 
And the answer is absolutely, 

2184
01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:02,240
undeniably yes. 
And he talked about this last 

2185
01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:03,880
night where he's turned into the
third option. 

2186
01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:07,600
And you know, I always thought 
there was a a second and a third

2187
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:11,320
act for LeBron where the offense
isn't running through him. 

2188
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:14,080
It's going to run through Luca, 
going to run through Reeves. 

2189
01:46:14,480 --> 01:46:16,560
So he's had a lot even though 
Lucas banged up, but he's had 

2190
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:18,200
time this year. 
He's been the third option. 

2191
01:46:18,480 --> 01:46:20,200
And he said it was, he welcomed 
it. 

2192
01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:22,080
It was a nice change and I 
respect that, right? 

2193
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:24,200
I don't think LeBron needs to 
take 30 shots. 

2194
01:46:24,200 --> 01:46:26,160
I don't think he needs to be the
man. 

2195
01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:27,920
I'm going to defend him a little
bit here. 

2196
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:30,960
I think his IQ and his 
commitment to the sport has 

2197
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:33,320
always been great and I think 
he's a great team player. 

2198
01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:34,240
I don't know what I'm going to 
say. 

2199
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:36,480
He's a great teammate because I 
think he's got a lot of guys run

2200
01:46:36,480 --> 01:46:38,840
out of town. 
He's got a lot of coaches fired.

2201
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:41,200
There's been a lot of 
manipulation behind the scenes. 

2202
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:44,480
But I think if you're good in 
Lebron's book, I think he's a 

2203
01:46:44,480 --> 01:46:46,040
great teammate. 
That's what I would say. 

2204
01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:48,320
All right, so can he still 
plays? 

2205
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:50,160
Obviously, yes, you can put him,
he can play. 

2206
01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:53,040
He can play the four, you know, 
if you want to be small and and 

2207
01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:55,920
with the right situation, he can
play the five against certain 

2208
01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:57,920
teams. 
So yes, he could still play. 

2209
01:46:58,400 --> 01:47:01,760
Now if I think he's going to 
play, which I don't, but for now

2210
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:04,320
I'm going to say that he is and 
I already told you that he 

2211
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:06,120
absolutely could play if he 
wants to. 

2212
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:10,000
Where should he play is the 
third and final question. 

2213
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:12,520
You know, I jotted down a couple
of teams for you. 

2214
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:14,680
Cavaliers to me would be a great
story. 

2215
01:47:14,680 --> 01:47:18,160
I think that would be awesome. 
I really do go back home, finish

2216
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:20,640
up at home, you know, the 
hometown kid, the kid from 

2217
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:23,880
Akron, be phenomenal story. 
You already won the championship

2218
01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:25,920
there. 
So the pressure, it's just not 

2219
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:29,240
quite as intense. 
Go out at the adulation and the 

2220
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:31,280
like. 
The symmetry in the full circle 

2221
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:33,680
moment would be. 
I mean, it would be it would be 

2222
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:35,760
all time and I'm not even a big 
LeBron fan. 

2223
01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:38,480
It would be great. 
Like if LeBron comes back and is

2224
01:47:38,480 --> 01:47:41,880
on the Cavs next year when he's 
introduced, you would imagine he

2225
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:44,080
played home next year, like the 
home opener. 

2226
01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:46,480
Oh my God. 
And then like the retirement 

2227
01:47:46,480 --> 01:47:49,200
tour is when he checks out of 
the game, his last game. 

2228
01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:51,800
And like, it would be it would 
just be all time stuff. 

2229
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:54,880
So I would be up for that. 
Maybe mess around and go to 

2230
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:57,760
Golden State. 
They're past, you know, that 

2231
01:47:57,760 --> 01:48:01,160
that that's kind of shut now. 
Does he open their window? 

2232
01:48:01,440 --> 01:48:03,240
Yeah, he does. 
Certainly opens it more. 

2233
01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:05,960
Maybe there's another power move
that they can make. 

2234
01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:07,560
I don't know, maybe Giannis, who
the hell knows? 

2235
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:10,360
I mean, if Giannis and LeBron go
to Golden State, that would be 

2236
01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:12,400
interesting, right? 
I'm going to get to the Knicks 

2237
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:14,240
in a moment. 
I think he's gone from the 

2238
01:48:14,240 --> 01:48:15,840
Lakers. 
I think that that ship has 

2239
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:16,680
sailed. 
I think he's done. 

2240
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:19,520
I think they're done with him. 
And you know, I heard some 

2241
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:21,600
people say yesterday, I don't 
see this as much. 

2242
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:25,120
It would be interesting. 
Denver, you know, you pair him 

2243
01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:27,800
with Yokich, who's a great 
passer, great big, you know, 

2244
01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:31,040
that two game in a two man game,
the way that they could play off

2245
01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:34,320
of each other would be in the 
basketball sense, really 

2246
01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:37,400
appealing. 
Now, does he want to play 41 

2247
01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:39,360
games in the altitude, which is 
a real thing? 

2248
01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:43,400
Probably not. 
Does you know, and Colorado's a 

2249
01:48:43,440 --> 01:48:47,080
beautiful state and Denver's a 
great city, great sports city. 

2250
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:49,480
Does he want to go to Denver? 
I don't know. 

2251
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:52,720
All right, so that that brings 
us to the Knicks here. 

2252
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:55,640
And he's always wax poetic about
the Knicks. 

2253
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:58,480
We know this, right? 
But also, like many, didn't have

2254
01:48:58,480 --> 01:49:00,560
the guts to come to the Knicks 
when the Knicks needed help. 

2255
01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:02,880
So I got no interest in LeBron 
coming to the Knicks. 

2256
01:49:02,880 --> 01:49:04,040
I'm not even going to dance 
around this. 

2257
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:06,520
I've said this before, I don't 
want them on the Knicks, right? 

2258
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:08,560
Don't want them. 
The only way that I would be 

2259
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:13,040
even remotely open to it is if 
the Knicks win the championship 

2260
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:15,840
this year and then LeBron wants 
to join the party. 

2261
01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:17,840
Oh, now you are. 
Now you want to take the mid 

2262
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:19,360
level exception. 
You want to take a little bit 

2263
01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:21,320
more nap, That's fine, we'll 
figure it out. 

2264
01:49:21,440 --> 01:49:24,280
You can come in. 
But if the Knicks don't win the 

2265
01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:27,400
championship, let's say they win
the Eastern Conference finals 

2266
01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:30,120
against whomever they play, and 
let's say they lose in five or 

2267
01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:33,000
six to the Thunder, right with 
T. 

2268
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:35,480
Well, whatever. 
Yeah, but they don't win. 

2269
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:37,840
I don't need LeBron coming at 
the side door. 

2270
01:49:38,120 --> 01:49:41,120
You know, the glory hound. 
And then somehow the Knicks win 

2271
01:49:41,120 --> 01:49:44,480
the championship with LeBron. 
And then I am beholden to LeBron

2272
01:49:44,480 --> 01:49:46,560
James for the rest of my 
basketball existence. 

2273
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:49,280
I want no part of that. 
I would rather lose. 

2274
01:49:49,480 --> 01:49:51,400
You will not believe me when I 
tell you this. 

2275
01:49:51,560 --> 01:49:55,080
I promise you I would rather 
lose with my dignity. 

2276
01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:56,880
And. 
And I've been all over Cat this 

2277
01:49:56,880 --> 01:49:58,880
year, this year, not the last 
month or two, but this year and 

2278
01:49:58,880 --> 01:50:02,000
last year been all over. 
I'd rather go now firing with 

2279
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:05,680
Cat and obviously Brunson and 
even Bridges and obviously OG 

2280
01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:08,040
and all those dudes. 
Next year, maybe a slight 

2281
01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:11,720
alteration to the bench right? 
Then have LeBron James come to 

2282
01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:15,840
the Knicks and they win their 
first championship since 1973. 

2283
01:50:16,120 --> 01:50:19,120
I got to see the powder. 
I got to see LeBron, everybody 

2284
01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:23,280
kissing his ass. 
Not interested, do not want it. 

2285
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:27,480
I would rather be championship 
list than have LeBron come and 

2286
01:50:27,480 --> 01:50:29,560
save the Knicks. 
And if you don't believe me, 

2287
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:32,880
then you don't know me. 
I promise you that is how I 

2288
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:35,160
feel. 
Because, you know, I went 

2289
01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:38,760
through this song and dance not 
once, twice maybe. 

2290
01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:41,320
LeBron coming to the Knicks. 
The antennas are up. 

2291
01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:43,920
I'm all excited. 
Knicks suck, let's go. 

2292
01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:45,840
LeBron. 
And I was a huge LeBron James 

2293
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:47,200
fan. 
He turned me off. 

2294
01:50:47,400 --> 01:50:49,840
He turned me off with some 
certain stuff the last decade or

2295
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:51,400
so. 
I'm not going to get into it and

2296
01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:52,640
I do respect him. 
I do. 

2297
01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:56,480
I don't hate LeBron, but I don't
want him coming in to be the 

2298
01:50:56,480 --> 01:50:57,600
savior. 
If we're going to win, we're 

2299
01:50:57,600 --> 01:51:00,000
going to win with Brunson. 
We're going to win with Jalen, 

2300
01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:02,800
and he's going to be on that 
float and the rest of the dudes 

2301
01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:05,760
lining up behind them, right? 
That's what I want to happen. 

2302
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:09,840
And if listen, I really, really,
really, really don't think that 

2303
01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:12,800
you believe me when I say that I
would rather lose with dignity 

2304
01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:14,680
than win with him. 
I'm not saying he has no 

2305
01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:17,920
dignity, but I just don't want 
him swooping in as the last 

2306
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:24,040
second hero and forever, forever
having to say, oh thank God the 

2307
01:51:24,040 --> 01:51:28,320
almighty basketball king LeBron 
James has come to the Garden. 

2308
01:51:28,480 --> 01:51:32,000
He has saved us. 
I'd rather lose in Round 2. 

2309
01:51:32,480 --> 01:51:35,880
I would rather lose around too. 
I'm think I'm in the minority on

2310
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:38,040
that. 
I know Nick fans are desperate. 

2311
01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:41,840
Beningo saw 69 and 73. 
I would love to know what he 

2312
01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:44,360
thought about like what, what 
his opinion on this would be. 

2313
01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:46,320
I don't know. 
I'm not that I really care in 

2314
01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:49,640
terms of changing my opinion, 
but I am curious how the Nick 

2315
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:52,280
fans, and I don't mean the front
runners or you know, the guy, 

2316
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:54,600
just get parachuted. 
I mean, those of us who were in 

2317
01:51:54,600 --> 01:51:58,080
the trenches with the Nicks, 
even when they're shit like I've

2318
01:51:58,080 --> 01:52:01,600
been OK, that's what I want. 
That's what I feel. 

2319
01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:06,120
So number one, will he play? 
I'm leaning no. 

2320
01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:09,400
I'm going to say give you a 
little percentage here, J Rod, 

2321
01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:13,880
I'm going to say right now I 
would say 6535% no. 

2322
01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:16,240
Can he play 100%? 
No doubt. 

2323
01:52:16,240 --> 01:52:17,240
Respect there. 
Of course. 

2324
01:52:17,480 --> 01:52:20,280
Where should he play? 
Go back to the Cavs. 

2325
01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:24,160
Second best situation, Golden 
State. 

2326
01:52:25,480 --> 01:52:28,480
You know, I'll tell you like I 
can. 

2327
01:52:29,040 --> 01:52:30,480
I can throw other teams on the 
board too. 

2328
01:52:30,480 --> 01:52:32,800
Like, not that I really want 
this because, well. 

2329
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:35,160
I don't. 
Golden State would be horrific. 

2330
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:36,680
Well, think about this, think 
about this. 

2331
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:38,200
We were talking about this 
yesterday. 

2332
01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:40,040
Like, you know, what do the 
Sixers do? 

2333
01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:43,720
And beat is on the books for big
money next year, the year after 

2334
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:46,600
and the year after that for 
$64.5 million. 

2335
01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:48,200
So there's only and you got 
Maxi. 

2336
01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:49,560
Obviously, you know, he's very 
you got edge. 

2337
01:52:49,560 --> 01:52:52,040
Comb was a young buck, love him.
George is getting old. 

2338
01:52:52,040 --> 01:52:53,400
We know their team right? 
No bench. 

2339
01:52:53,720 --> 01:52:56,080
I mean, imagine if Lebron's 
like, I'll go there for the 

2340
01:52:56,080 --> 01:52:58,560
middle level exception. 
Now that would be a problem like

2341
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:01,520
that would be, but I'd rather 
deal with that problem than have

2342
01:53:01,520 --> 01:53:05,400
him swoop in and win and forever
have to bow down and kiss the 

2343
01:53:05,400 --> 01:53:06,360
night. 
Yeah, big time. 

2344
01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:08,480
James Wears not interested in 
doing that. 

2345
01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:11,520
And even if you went to the 
Golden State Warriors, I, I 

2346
01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:14,040
don't foresee anything. 
I think that franchise is 

2347
01:53:14,040 --> 01:53:16,680
cooked. 
I, I, you know, I even, I guess 

2348
01:53:16,680 --> 01:53:19,080
I understand why you bring Steve
Kerr back. 

2349
01:53:19,080 --> 01:53:23,560
And I think that two year 
contract extension really 

2350
01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:27,080
signifies a lot for that 
franchise because it shows Steph

2351
01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:28,960
Kerr, he's likely got two years 
left. 

2352
01:53:29,160 --> 01:53:31,480
Draymond Green's likely got two 
years left. 

2353
01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:34,120
Obviously Steve Kerr's got two 
years left. 

2354
01:53:34,240 --> 01:53:36,560
And then it's likely raps. 
Oh yeah, for sure. 

2355
01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:37,880
Draymond's just about on the way
out. 

2356
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:40,720
Did you see? 
Draymond at the interesting one,

2357
01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:42,600
but the team's just not good 
enough. 

2358
01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:43,960
Dallas. 
Nah. 

2359
01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:49,320
City wise, it would maybe work 
out, but great city, yeah, team 

2360
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:52,080
wise, I mean, LeBron and Cooper 
flag, that's not getting you 

2361
01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:53,720
anything. 
No, no, no, you. 

2362
01:53:55,040 --> 01:54:00,000
Know the did you see the mention
Draymond, you see Draymond and 

2363
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:01,480
and the Rose to Kevin Hart the 
other day. 

2364
01:54:01,680 --> 01:54:03,520
Yeah, that was. 
Did you watch the whole thing? 

2365
01:54:03,800 --> 01:54:07,080
I didn't watch the whole thing. 
I've seen bits and pieces, man. 

2366
01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:09,320
They go, they go hard at those 
things. 

2367
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:12,400
I mean, obviously I watch it, 
but like some of the jokes, I 

2368
01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:14,920
mean, I've, I've, I've, you 
know, the crazier you get, the 

2369
01:54:14,920 --> 01:54:18,720
funnier I think it is. 
But some of it is actually like,

2370
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:21,600
whoa, like you could joke about 
that and people are alright with

2371
01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:24,160
it. 
Yeah, no, I I, I don't know. 

2372
01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:26,080
I mean, I've got thick skin, 
Really. 

2373
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:27,840
At the end of the day, I really 
just don't give a shit what 

2374
01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:30,120
people say about me. 
I think I did at one point. 

2375
01:54:30,120 --> 01:54:31,960
I've said that before. 
I haven't for a long time. 

2376
01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:35,080
Except the people that I really 
care about and people who really

2377
01:54:35,080 --> 01:54:36,000
know my character. 
Right. 

2378
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:38,440
Everybody else from a dime a 
dozen, Your opinion, whatever. 

2379
01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:42,800
But to me, I don't know if I 
would be able to sit there and 

2380
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:44,680
be the subject of a roast. 
I I don't I. 

2381
01:54:45,320 --> 01:54:47,080
Don't know if I can do that 
easy. 

2382
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:51,200
Oh man, I don't know, I think. 
I'd be a good roaster. 

2383
01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:52,960
Oh man, I think I'd be able to 
roast. 

2384
01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:53,960
People couldn't take it. 
That's. 

2385
01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:57,400
What the kids say they go 
roasted, whatever like that. 

2386
01:54:57,400 --> 01:54:58,480
That's what the young kids say 
now. 

2387
01:54:58,480 --> 01:55:00,160
And they do this with their hand
roasted. 

2388
01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:02,880
No, I mean, I'm just staying 
there for two hours and get shit

2389
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:07,000
on. 
I don't know if I'm sure if I'm 

2390
01:55:07,160 --> 01:55:08,280
not. 
I would love it. 

2391
01:55:08,280 --> 01:55:09,920
I would love it. 
If I do. 

2392
01:55:10,880 --> 01:55:13,800
I would love it if I knew people
were going to go that hard. 

2393
01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:16,720
Don't give me some whack jab 
weak jabs like that. 

2394
01:55:16,920 --> 01:55:18,520
No, I would rather I want the 
weak. 

2395
01:55:18,640 --> 01:55:21,400
Jabs. 
No, I want to be eviscerated. 

2396
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:25,320
Like when I get roasted. 
Tear me, tear me to bits bro. 

2397
01:55:25,560 --> 01:55:27,480
Really. 
Maybe that's a little sadistic 

2398
01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:29,440
of a thing, but like. 
I respect. 

2399
01:55:29,440 --> 01:55:32,440
It I always, I, I guess that and
that's kind of maybe part of the

2400
01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:36,320
humor of our generation, but I 
feel like I always like like 

2401
01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:39,800
maybe this is bad, but like at 
camp when I was a kid, like I 

2402
01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:42,440
always like the visceral 
creating someone and then having

2403
01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:46,240
them, you know, come back at. 
You as really, really big time. 

2404
01:55:46,440 --> 01:55:48,040
Nah, man. 
I mean, back then it was the 

2405
01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:50,840
Mama jokes and we had a million 
mother jokes in our back pocket.

2406
01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:53,640
Also led to a lot of fights. 
Oh my God, no. 

2407
01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:55,440
I don't think I could sit there.
I don't know if I've got thick 

2408
01:55:55,440 --> 01:55:56,320
skin. 
I don't know if I've got 

2409
01:55:56,320 --> 01:56:00,840
thinking up to get eviscerated. 
No, man, you know, and listen, 

2410
01:56:00,840 --> 01:56:02,760
these rose like I watched the 
Brady rose. 

2411
01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:04,520
I've seen clips of the heart 
rose I've got to watch. 

2412
01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:06,800
And Draymond's line about 
Chelsea Handler was good. 

2413
01:56:07,480 --> 01:56:08,800
She was laughing. 
There was a good one. 

2414
01:56:09,120 --> 01:56:11,920
I've got to I do want to watch 
the whole thing, but I got to 

2415
01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:13,400
make sure the kids asleep and 
it's filthy. 

2416
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:14,600
I got to put it on at the right 
time. 

2417
01:56:14,840 --> 01:56:17,400
I got to find the time. 
But like some of the stuff like 

2418
01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:20,040
when you get into this is just 
where I get really 

2419
01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:23,040
uncomfortable. 
I don't find any humor in like 

2420
01:56:23,040 --> 01:56:27,920
anything that is Epstein laden. 
I just I can't I can't hear it. 

2421
01:56:27,960 --> 01:56:29,800
I, you know, and I could never 
deliver anything like that. 

2422
01:56:29,800 --> 01:56:32,000
Anything like Charlie Kirk. 
There was something that was 

2423
01:56:32,000 --> 01:56:35,400
just reprehensible, man. 
It just whether or not you agree

2424
01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:37,920
with this politics or not, or 
what he would say. 

2425
01:56:37,920 --> 01:56:42,320
I just, I can't like when human 
life is is demeaned to the 

2426
01:56:42,320 --> 01:56:44,480
degree sometimes these roasts 
go. 

2427
01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:48,120
It's it's not a roast, it's just
it's uncomfortable and I'm not 

2428
01:56:48,120 --> 01:56:50,560
even trying to get married, but 
I've got my I love a good roast 

2429
01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:52,320
man. 
Like if you've been married five

2430
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:55,040
times, you want to fuck around 
and talk about it like that or, 

2431
01:56:55,320 --> 01:57:00,200
you know, you got whatever. 
But like, I don't know. 

2432
01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:03,040
I mean, you and I definitely 
differ here. 

2433
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:07,480
The one, the joke line that I 
thought was maybe too crazy. 

2434
01:57:07,480 --> 01:57:09,920
I mean, we don't even have the 
like, did you hear the jokes 

2435
01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:15,400
about the comedian's husband? 
Who tragically passed away 

2436
01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:17,160
quote. 
On quote. 

2437
01:57:17,280 --> 01:57:19,400
They were like roasting a 
comedian's husband. 

2438
01:57:19,400 --> 01:57:21,120
Who? 
A female comedian a. 

2439
01:57:21,160 --> 01:57:25,360
Female comedian whose husband 
took his own life like 3 years 

2440
01:57:25,360 --> 01:57:30,600
prior and they were going at her
and I was like this is a wild it

2441
01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:33,760
was and she was. 
I mean granted she was cracking 

2442
01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:37,800
up, she was rolling, but it was 
just insane dude. 

2443
01:57:37,800 --> 01:57:39,600
No, that's not. 
That's definitely not for me. 

2444
01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:41,400
That's that's humor. 
And then? 

2445
01:57:41,400 --> 01:57:44,880
That was the thing that for me, 
I was like, that's, that's like 

2446
01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:47,400
a little too far 'cause it's 
like the lady's there. 

2447
01:57:47,480 --> 01:57:50,200
I mean, I was like, like, to me,
I was like, the lady's literally

2448
01:57:50,280 --> 01:57:52,960
right there like this is. 
Like, I mean, here, listen, 

2449
01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:56,760
we're also not comedians. 
Yeah, and, and, and I think the 

2450
01:57:56,760 --> 01:57:59,440
Hollywood aspect of it changes 
everything. 

2451
01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:02,960
I think the fact that it's on 
camera changes your reactions 

2452
01:58:02,960 --> 01:58:05,840
and the perception to everything
where it's like, oh, this is the

2453
01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:08,520
big blow out. 
It's not like I'm going to take 

2454
01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:09,480
deep offense. 
You know what? 

2455
01:58:09,480 --> 01:58:10,200
I know. 
Yeah. 

2456
01:58:10,200 --> 01:58:12,000
No, that's true. 
You're going in with a different

2457
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:14,000
mindset. 
I just I don't think I think I'm

2458
01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:16,560
I'm not built for that that 
level of of degrading. 

2459
01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:19,760
I I think I go, man. 
Now that's I don't want any part

2460
01:58:19,760 --> 01:58:22,360
of that Jay. 
I don't so roasted. 

2461
01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:24,960
All right, man, let me get let 
me get bouncing out of here so 

2462
01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:27,920
real quick. 
Aaron Boone, let's pop that up. 

2463
01:58:27,920 --> 01:58:30,520
If you can't get that up once 
more there J Rod for tomorrow, 

2464
01:58:30,760 --> 01:58:31,920
Yankees skip. 
Come on, Boone. 

2465
01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:33,800
You get a win tonight, buddy. 
I don't want to have to talk to 

2466
01:58:33,800 --> 01:58:35,240
you when you lose 5 or 6 in a 
row. 

2467
01:58:35,240 --> 01:58:38,120
Let's go. 
Hopefully the Yankees win today.

2468
01:58:38,160 --> 01:58:42,880
Either way, Boone and the early 
state of the Yankees tomorrow on

2469
01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:44,600
the show. 
It's going to be great at 10:30 

2470
01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:47,240
and then give you guys a little 
heads up the day after that. 

2471
01:58:47,240 --> 01:58:50,400
The Jets collective as the NFL 
schedules will drop. 

2472
01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:52,040
That'll be right around eight O 
5. 

2473
01:58:52,040 --> 01:58:55,920
I know, I know we'll have the 
schedules by 8, but Rich has to 

2474
01:58:56,920 --> 01:58:58,960
file something for ESPN. 
He's got to finish writing 

2475
01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:01,400
something. 
So maybe Jake and I will start 

2476
01:59:01,400 --> 01:59:03,320
early and then Rich will come in
and then we'll go through all 

2477
01:59:03,320 --> 01:59:06,000
the games and you know, the 
prime time games and what we 

2478
01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:07,920
expected. 
I was reading something 

2479
01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:09,440
yesterday. 
The Jets are expected to have 

2480
01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:12,800
the 5th easiest schedule just 
based on strength of schedule. 

2481
01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:14,760
So I mean, hey, that, that 
helps. 

2482
01:59:14,760 --> 01:59:17,560
So at least on paper, we're 
getting an easy schedule. 

2483
01:59:18,200 --> 01:59:20,880
But you know, when, when you're 
5 miles behind the Pats and the 

2484
01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:23,720
Bills in your own division, it's
it's really not easy. 

2485
01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:25,680
No matter who you play. 
You can only play the Cardinals 

2486
01:59:25,680 --> 01:59:27,640
and the Browns and the Raiders 
so many times. 

2487
01:59:27,880 --> 01:59:29,640
I mean, eventually you're going 
to have to get better and I 

2488
01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:32,280
think The Jets will be better 
this year, which is part of the 

2489
01:59:32,280 --> 01:59:35,840
reason why I am actually excited
about the schedule drop. 

2490
01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:38,240
So that's coming up on Thursday.
All right, Jay, have an 

2491
01:59:38,240 --> 01:59:41,720
absolutely outstanding rest of 
your Tuesday. 

2492
01:59:42,040 --> 01:59:44,880
I want everybody to check out 
the rest of the channel, by the 

2493
01:59:44,880 --> 01:59:48,120
way, like it, subscribe it. 
We've got a lot of stuff up 

2494
01:59:48,120 --> 01:59:50,360
there, whether it's old 
interviews, if you're new to the

2495
01:59:50,360 --> 01:59:52,000
show. 
Appreciate you guys hopping in 

2496
01:59:52,360 --> 01:59:56,360
and we'll get the 25,000 Subs 
within certainly by the end of 

2497
01:59:56,360 --> 01:59:57,760
the month. 
So we continue to grow. 

2498
01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:01,440
I've got a conference call today
about some potential new 

2499
02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:04,840
business endeavors for the show.
We didn't take any calls today, 

2500
02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:06,400
but we do. 
So that's just something. 

2501
02:00:06,400 --> 02:00:09,240
I just had a lot of things I had
to get to and I didn't. 

2502
02:00:09,760 --> 02:00:12,400
And I love the calls. 
I've always said that to me that

2503
02:00:12,400 --> 02:00:16,120
the show wasn't complete until I
was able to interact with you 

2504
02:00:16,120 --> 02:00:18,440
guys and you've been great on 
the phones. 

2505
02:00:18,440 --> 02:00:20,160
It was just a day. 
I had a lot of things out of 

2506
02:00:20,160 --> 02:00:22,120
roll through. 
So we'll get back to the calls 

2507
02:00:22,120 --> 02:00:25,440
tomorrow, although it'll be. 
That'll be a little condensed as

2508
02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:27,520
well because we'll have Boone. 
So what we'll do is I'll start 

2509
02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:31,800
the show, go from 10:00 to 10:30
and then probably react to the 

2510
02:00:31,800 --> 02:00:33,600
Yankees, react to the Mets a 
little bit there. 

2511
02:00:33,880 --> 02:00:36,960
And then I'll have Boonie on 
hopefully, hopefully for a good,

2512
02:00:36,960 --> 02:00:38,840
you know, 45 minutes, maybe a 
little bit more. 

2513
02:00:38,840 --> 02:00:41,640
I've got to see a schedule. 
And then after that, we can 

2514
02:00:41,640 --> 02:00:44,120
obviously react to the calls and
some of the stuff that he said. 

2515
02:00:44,120 --> 02:00:48,000
So that's coming up tomorrow. 
Check it out, Instagram, Twitter

2516
02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:51,160
and all that stuff. 
Social media follow like it, 

2517
02:00:51,160 --> 02:00:54,640
subscribe it, get that algorithm
traction going and I will catch 

2518
02:00:54,640 --> 02:00:58,240
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