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Test 1-2 Hey, we figured this 
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All right, I think we're good 
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welcome back to unleash here. 
Good morning to you. 

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I think we're OK. 
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Good morning, everybody. 
So we've got a Little Mix, we've

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got a little hot stove today. 
And I do want to get back to the

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Giants out of the chute here. 
So man, this is absolutely 

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amazing. 
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happen for the Giants? 
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interesting is the like the way 
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these years because they forced 
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because they've been a train 
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They basically morphed into the 
New York Jets. 

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And what we're going to find out
is how other people perceive the

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Giants organization, which to me
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I mean, you, you look, and I 
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But when you actually listen to 
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And and this is stuff that as 
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and we've gone through. 
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to look at what they've actually
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appearances and in 14 years, you
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And then even going back to the 
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McAdoo, Shermer, Judge Gable, 
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interims. 
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managers, you've had some ugly 
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situations which were a bit, you
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will. 
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the perception of the Giants has
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say an all time low because, you
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the 70s were really unkind to 
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But like, it was such a 
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Yeah, you got to get beat up in 
the papers and get buried in the

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newspapers. 
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I don't know if the right word 
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of get away with, you know, 
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and still be and still blend in,
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dysfunctional franchise, as the 
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So and not only dysfunctional, 
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franchise and simply not win, 
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lot of noise, there's just a lot
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of GMs. And then obviously when 
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you're getting top picks. 
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fruition. 
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with that. 
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been coupled and made messier by
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they've complicated their own 
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So they, they've got a lifeline 
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Some they are, they are getting 
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the timing couldn't be more 
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They, they made the decision and
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Dabel and they had to do that 
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And then they made the decision 
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really understand this. 
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this, but to keep Joe Shane in 
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Now I, I do think that you can 
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Like if, and, and again, I'm 
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and to a lesser extent Stefanski
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and, and like if Tomlin shakes 
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But the perception of the Giants
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So when you have that 
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to overpay to convince somebody 
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Their most recent valuation is 
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They sell what they sold, what 
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to a a ton of, you know, 
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I think every NFL team really, 
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think away, if you think the way
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versus baseball. 
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you're in a small market like 
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if you want to be bold and you 
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hire, you know, just like when 
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college and give him a lot of 
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or some teams like that, the A's
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financial limitations that you 
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around where that's not the case
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So the Giants have a license to 
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The Giants have the means to 
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The problem won't be the money. 
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whatever it is, 13 a year, I 
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whatever somebody like John 
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the Giants will very freely and 
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they've got the resources to do 
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The issue is if the Giants that 
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cannot happen. 
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everybody. 
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the assistants, talk to the, you
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Stefanski. 
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doing, which is smart, all 
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rock, go through every single 
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and and and and just ride the 
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to say, all right, I believe in 
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Hey, you know what? 
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I, I've always Revere the 
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I want to be the guy to get him 
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the brand, restore, not even 
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brand, because with the Giants, 
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you've got the presence of a 
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like and most of us really, 
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top, top level upside here. 
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giants like getting in their own
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If and when horrible or lesser 
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listen, I want to come contracts
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We're good on the money. 
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I want to bring in my guy. 
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don't think that they'll do 
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flushed through the possibility 
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happen and there's a moment of 
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of the top candidates doesn't 
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same page with him in terms of 
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talked about yesterday, hey, we 
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going to do it again because 
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we can run through we have and, 
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all up there, the content BT 
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teams have salary cap, what 
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in terms of ownership and ones 
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from. 
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Like that's already been 
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been laid out in that regard. 
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we know who they like, we know 
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complication because there's six
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that are, I think, centrally 
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Harbaugh is going to really view
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play well against San Francisco.
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Steelers, I shouldn't even say 
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to win that game. 
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and it looks sloppy and it's 
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made the determination with 
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like they feel they've got to 
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three very appealing situations.
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Philly with Howie Roseman, 
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Horbaugh who was there and who 
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the Steelers fabric? 
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of of that brand? 
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circumstance can the Giants 
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marginalization that's very 
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Horbaugh where it's like, hey, 
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You know, we're going to bring 
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And we're going to even work 
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that. 
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the agents will do that. 
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Joe Shane around, then the 
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Joe Shane, I'm sorry, you're 
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That's it. 
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that I am, I don't know if I'd 
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might get in the way of hiring 
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as I've chronicled is, is 
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coin is there's also a little 
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but I do think that when you you
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line it up as I have already, 
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Mike McCarthy, I don't think 
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of you do now. 
That's just an opinion thing. 

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What's not an opinion is that 
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Harbaugh 63, Mike is 62. 
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literally 18 years in the NFL. 
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rate in the regular season. 
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little bit, and this is just a 
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the the Shane Giants connection.
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I just think he's, for whatever 
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the same level as horribaugh, 
which to me is just factually 

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untrue based on what I just told
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Now you want to tell me you 
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more of a leader of men? 
All right, we could have that 

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conversation. 
I don't really know how you 

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quantify that. 
I don't know how you 

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substantiate that with any sort 
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the things that I think you can 
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say, well, you know, he had 
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a top quarterback of all time. 
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is not Aaron Rodgers in the 
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historically, I mean, he's in 
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his prime and he's got multiple 
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And too many times we saw the 
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wrong side of the scoreboard in 
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a slightly better coach than 
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I think Coughlin finds a way to 

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win there. 
I think that certainly guys like

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Belichick and Parcells and you 
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think they find a way to get to 
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So those are things that, that I
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full honest, you know, A-Z as 
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that I used before. 
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some of the reactions that a lot
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been posted it on Instagram and 
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all the comments and some of you
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some point, guys, at some point 
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a, with a factual basis. 
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direct question, you know, what 
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Like why is John Horbaugh 
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Adams not feeling Mike McCarthy.
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love to have the answer. 
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answer based, you know, backed 
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I've got a lot of opinions. 
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know, he he doesn't run a 
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and maybe that could be backed 
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NFL. 
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appealing to me when you work at
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multiple levels of success, OK, 
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with and you should have won 
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with with 1213 wins as he even 
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Green Bay 1 is not good enough. 
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a minute, we'll take one. 
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Rodgers for more than a decade 
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problem saying there's an 
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McCarthy. 
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with John Horbaugh and I also 
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Now some of you don't do this 
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I play value in being able to do
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spot. 
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ton of games, wins the Super 
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All right now Dallas is a Dallas
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It's a totally different 
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I don't care if you elevate your
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two, top three in the MVP, which
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way. 
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I don't care that like that 
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to the fans and really to the 
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always a main story. 
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like the Yankees, Yankees could 
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other teams who get to that 
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standard, but in terms of the 
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the same plane. 
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platinum. 
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11 or 12 or 13 games, if you 
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fail. 
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I always have and I always will 
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transferable skill set. 
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different. 
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them. 
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would. 
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McCarthy's already done that in 
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I just remain confused based on 
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on the on the show, on social 
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completely different energy for 
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same thing as the guy that many 
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I don't know why. 
Like think of let's let's go to 

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Pat Riley for a SEC right. 
I've used the word and neither 

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one of these gentlemen is Pat 
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We'll do a little Nixon in a 
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Good job by the Knicks needed to
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job last night looked like a a 
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for the New York Knicks, which 
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But Pat Riley to think about the
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think this is a great way to 
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Baseball's a little different 
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influence, right, because it's 
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baseball. 
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Jack up 40 threes, you could 
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deep end, you can run out seven 
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Thibodeau did. 
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attack an NBA game, much like 
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attack an NFL game or your run 
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Do you have more of a balance? 
Do you, you know, hire ADC who's

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blitzing all day? 
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So that's basic stuff. 
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minute. 
Pat Riley to me is the greatest.

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More so than Phil Jackson, more 
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championships with the Knicks in
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More so than Casey Jones who won
a couple of the Birds crew in 

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the South with the Celtics in 
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You can't find an NBA coach, 
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championships. 
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The thing to me that always 
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extension always separates from 
me. 

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Bill Parcells. 
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Lombardi, more than Landry, more
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to win not only in different 
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something completely different 
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think Now, many of you didn't 
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I don't know that I was 
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Riley won with the Lakers with, 
you know, a prototype as a point

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guard 69 magic run of the show 
up and down the court worthy 

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Byron Scott fast break trying to
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But they also had the half court
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All right, let's get it to the 
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Let's get that sky hook. 
Go get his big fella lead his 

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Kareem. 
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And then when he came to the 
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rebranding, like it was really 
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more different approach. 
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because the Lakers who tried to 
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Riley and Ewing and Mason Oak 
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to and did win more times than 
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scoring game. 
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threes, 9489 like so he did that
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style and it was seamless for 
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It was an immediate transition 
and immediately immediate 

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recognition. 
Here's what I'm inheriting, 

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here's how we're playing and 
here's how we're winning. 

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There was no conversations. 
There was no deviations. 

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Now, the Knicks didn't win the 
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Ewing, we love them. 
Got out played by Lajuan, no 

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crime. 
One of the best players of all 

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time. 
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in the NBAI think he's that 
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I think he's the most underrated
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NBA. 
But Riley did what he did there.

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And then when he went to Miami, 
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anyone kind of little bit of a 
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Heat teams, you know, going back
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very, very much were a mirror 
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tried to play. 
That's why those games were so. 

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I mean, they were rock fights, 
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everybody knew what the other 
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They were all locked in 
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Neither team had a ton of great 
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So there was really one template
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to. 
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and a lot of knock down street 
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You know, it wasn't appealing to
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But again, the point is it 
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Riley. 
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McCarthy. 
McCarthy, I'm not saying that he

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won differently in Dallas, even 
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championship, but he won 12 
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franchise that was scuffling, 
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down, up, down, Jerry's 
presence, the fans expectations,

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the national media presence, 
right? 

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And he won a lot of games. 
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there's additional value, like 
there's, there's additional 

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bonus points. 
I know that that sounds crazy, 

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but there's bonus points when 
you win in one spot and then you

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pack up shop, take your, you 
know, whatever your mantra is in

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your, your MO, you go to a new 
spot that's totally different. 

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Like the glitz of Dallas and, 
and the blue collar, you know, 

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bitter cold, scrappy mentality 
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Anything but fancy, right? 
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Now, I'm not saying I, if John 
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Giants, I fully expect the 
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Let's say he's coaching them 
next year. 

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Giants will win 9 games because 
the Giants probably should have 

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won 7-8 games this year. 
You know, you should have closed

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out the Bears game, maybe even 
with, if Dart was playing early,

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could have beat the Commanders 
early on. 

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Not to mention Denver, all the 
other collapses that we 

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chronicled chapter and verse 
that I'm not going to get back 

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into now. 
So he will win and he will win 

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right away. 
But I just, I look at John 

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Horbaugh and like he's not an A+
candidate. 

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And and that's fine. 
Now he's an A+ of this crop. 

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But I'm, I'm, I'm still worried 
that the giants are going to 

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show as they can and they 
haven't even talked to him yet 

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as they communicate with him and
they meet with him and they get 

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in the weeds on what he wants to
do and what they're willing to 

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let him do all that stuff. 
I just fear that there's going 

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to be a reluctance on their part
to let him do whatever he wants 

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to do. 
And I go back to Joe Shane. 

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I really do. 
I go back to Joe Shane. 

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You know, The funny thing too is
like with Joe, it, it seems like

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a bit of a contradiction, but 
it's not right. 

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So the coach's job is to win and
that's why that first year with 

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the Giants won nine games and 
beat the Vikings in the wild 

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card to me And and, and Sam and 
I talked about this and we were 

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in agreement on this. 
That was more Dabel because 

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Brian Dabel, you know, the, the,
the ability to influence the 

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roster when you first become the
GM is almost impossible. 

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I mean, you inherit the 
quarterback, you inherit the old

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line, which was which was not 
good that year. 

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You, you inherit Saquon. 
All right, So maybe moves within

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the margins pick up this guy off
the wave or whatever, but your 

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fingerprints are not really 
fully yet on the roster. 

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So to me that was a direct 
correlation. 

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Dabel coaching up Jones. 
You know, very few turnovers 

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protect the ball had Daniel 
Jones run Giants wanted it was a

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fun year. 
Now as you get deeper into the 

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Dabel Shane regime, well, now 
the influence becomes more and 

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more and more and more for the 
GM and you hope that the 

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coaching influence not only 
remains the same, but based on 

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an increase of talent and now a 
greater familiarity of the 

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roster that even that would get 
better. 

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All right, so I, I want to be 
fair to Joe in this regard, even

443
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,000
though I don't fully buy it. 
We're all saying Joe should be 

444
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,080
gone. 
And I stand by that. 

445
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,560
I've said that for a year. 
I wouldn't have brought back 

446
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,320
Dabel or Shane going into this 
year. 

447
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,200
I've said that, right? 
But now, like now it's it to me,

448
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:58,760
it's it's it's borderline 
untenable. 

449
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,480
Like there's no reason that he 
should still be the general 

450
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,080
manager of the Giants. 
But if we say, and it's true 

451
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:09,640
because we lived it, that the 
Giants should have won at least 

452
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,720
three or four, maybe one more 
game than that, Well, if we're 

453
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,760
saying that that and it's 
largely true, shouldn't that be 

454
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,200
more of a positive reflection on
Joe Shane? 

455
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,640
Because really what you're 
saying is you lost by 

456
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,560
circumstances, not because you 
didn't have the horses to 

457
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,720
compete to be in games, to build
leads before you flush them away

458
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,000
in the fourth quarter like they 
routinely did. 

459
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,360
And I, and I think that that's 
kind of gotten away as we 

460
00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:37,760
diagnose the Joe Shane era. 
Now on more of the micro level, 

461
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,080
it's Joe Shane's fault. 
The kicker was always a mess. 

462
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,160
Like that's him. 
You're the general manager 

463
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,080
figured out you didn't too 
often. 

464
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,480
You went to a game where, you 
know, with my groin, my knee, 

465
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,560
can I kick? 
Can I not? 

466
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,120
Do you have a second kicker? 
Like those are the clerical 

467
00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:52,640
things that Joe Shane bombed on,
right? 

468
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:58,960
He also Neil, who is just 0 
Thibodeau, who is OK. 

469
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,160
I would trade him. 
I, I would not invest big money 

470
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,480
in him moving forward. 
You guys know that, you know, he

471
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,840
popped a little bit here and 
there. 

472
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,800
Is he really the guy that you 
thought you were getting in the 

473
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,680
draft in the top ten? 
The answer is no. 

474
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,800
And if you think that that's 
suddenly going to happen, I 

475
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,720
would I would challenge you and 
say that I would respectfully 

476
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,920
disagree. 
However, hold on. 

477
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:21,000
My in laws are going guys. 
Safe travels, Grammy. 

478
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,480
See ya. 
Love you. 

479
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:24,760
Tell Popeyes. 
Say goodbye. 

480
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,480
Love you guys. 
They're leaving. 

481
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,320
I could see the the door to the 
garage open. 

482
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,040
I want to say goodbye. 
They were in from Dallas for a 

483
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:35,640
few days for my son's birthday. 
So, you know, there's a lot here

484
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,880
and it could be a little 
complicated it, but it doesn't 

485
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,480
have to be, which is the 
ultimate point. 

486
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:45,640
As long as the Giants understand
that to get somebody like 

487
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,240
horribaugh, there's going to 
have to be a concession, a 

488
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,880
stripping of power from Joe 
Shane or if one of these 

489
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,760
gentlemen, and I mean more so 
horrible than anybody else 

490
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,960
because I don't think you'd 
bestow that ultimate power on 

491
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,280
somebody like Stefanski yet at 
this age with the experience. 

492
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,920
No Super Bowls, but somebody 
like horrible, somebody like 

493
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,040
McCarthy would would have. 
They've earned that latitude to 

494
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,560
to do that, to express 
themselves. 

495
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,760
And hey, you want me and I want 
you. 

496
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,360
But you know, I don't want to 
work with this guy. 

497
00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:14,040
If that's communicated, it's got
to be gone. 

498
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,280
And that that is the only 
potential speed bump that I 

499
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,560
fear. 
Because, you know, one of the 

500
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:25,600
great things about really good 
franchises is stability right 

501
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,280
now. 
Again, I've been all over Brian 

502
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,880
Cashman for years, Ryan Cash, 
But it's not earned the right to

503
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,640
rebuild the Yankees the way the 
Yankees need to be rebuilt. 

504
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,760
I mean, how many times did you 
hear that on the morning show? 

505
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,480
You heard me all the time when I
was when it first happened. 

506
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,240
That was four years ago. 
I've been saying this, right? 

507
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:47,960
So Cashman has presented me with
some, you know, things I don't 

508
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,800
agree with and I voiced that. 
But I've always been very quick 

509
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,000
to then say, yeah, but I mean, 
he's doing a whole hell of a lot

510
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,160
more. 
And so is how it at least giving

511
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,920
the Yankees a chance to, you 
know, be on that that that top 

512
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,520
line, if you will, and and have 
a chance to win a World Series. 

513
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,560
Now, we all. 
I'm not getting into the weeds 

514
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,760
of the Yankees now, though I do 
have a thought on the Cabrera 

515
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,160
trade after the Knicks stop in a
minute. 

516
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,560
So I'll get to that, by the way,
fire the questions and I'll 

517
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,480
start reading a bunch in a bit 
and then attack that. 

518
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,560
But at least, you know, you know
that like, the Yankees are going

519
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,800
to have a chance to win. 
But the thing that's frustrating

520
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,600
is that there's such a 
reluctance to make change. 

521
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,800
And and I think that that 
reluctance has LED has LED them 

522
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,080
from being less than a World 
Series team. 

523
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,360
All right, That's just my 
opinion. 

524
00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:33,760
I mean, it's also backed up, in 
fact, since they haven't won in 

525
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,360
2009. 
But I readily admit Cashman's 

526
00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:38,960
done a good job. 
He just no longer does a great 

527
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,320
job. 
But the Yankees never morph into

528
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,280
the Giants. 
They just don't do it. 

529
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:49,840
Giants had what, 2-3 win 
seasons, 24 win seasons in the 

530
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,400
last X14 years, whatever it's 
been where they've had two 

531
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,240
playoff appearances like the 
Yankees. 

532
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,400
Just they don't let that happen 
because of the Yankees. 

533
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,760
Now I appreciate the stability, 
but at the end there's still 

534
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:05,400
frustration because it's a 
little less than the Giants have

535
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,240
try to become more stable like 
they were. 

536
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,920
And that was one of the great 
things about the New York 

537
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,640
Giants. 
Like, and I don't mean listen, 

538
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,400
every great franchise is going 
to have a Hanley, you know, or a

539
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:22,640
Judge or Shermer, even a table. 
Like the problem is it's it's 

540
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,800
been going back-to-back to 
back-to-back. 

541
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,960
And I just feel like too many 
times the Giants where the 

542
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,960
results don't back this up. 
They are they are almost trying 

543
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,520
to force feed consistency down 
our throat that there's now a 

544
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,760
reluctance to just get somebody 
out of the building who very 

545
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,840
well might have to leave the 
building if the guy that you 

546
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,560
really want. 
We all we all know Horbaugh is 

547
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,520
the giant's number one choice. 
If he wants him out, are they 

548
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,120
going to show that same lack of 
willingness? 

549
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,440
And if they do, then shame on 
the New York Giants. 

550
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,720
You can't you, you. 
I mean, let's just call for what

551
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,920
it let's be as blunt as you can 
humanly be. 

552
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,560
If the giants, and I'm not even 
saying that I think that they 

553
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,720
will and it's not me straddle on
the fence, I honestly don't 

554
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,120
know. 
But if the giants allow the 

555
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:15,240
presence of Joe Shane to get in 
the way of hiring John Horbaugh,

556
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,680
then the giants are idiots. 
Period, end of statement, end of

557
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,600
story. 
Nothing else to say. 

558
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,240
Like that's all you need to see 
if that were to happen. 

559
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,480
You want to talk about APR 
nightmare and then could you 

560
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,720
imagine now this will be worst 
case situation and I don't think

561
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,120
that this will happen because 
then I think they can pivot to a

562
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,440
Stefanski. 
Why do you like he's young. 

563
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:39,200
He's won twice with with a 
wretched franchise, the 

564
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,240
basically The Jets of Ohio and 
there's there's appeal there 

565
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,760
because I think there's a lot of
upside and he's one without that

566
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,360
real quarterback, unlike, you 
know, a horrible who's got Lamar

567
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,440
McCarthy was that Rogers, Dak 
whatever. 

568
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,640
But you know, I just I am a 
little at least aware, even if I

569
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,280
don't use the word fearful, a 
little aware of the remote 

570
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:04,800
possibility that they flinch 
with the Shane stuff turns 

571
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,840
horribaugh off or Brady does a 
sales pitch and and and 

572
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,760
horribaugh loves Mendoza. 
Like I went through this 

573
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,720
yesterday. 
To think that it's a layup with 

574
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,200
horribaugh to the G men. 
I think is is asinine. 

575
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,040
The desire's there. 
But now you got to get it done 

576
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,600
and there's other appealing 
options. 

577
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:24,040
And let's say he goes somewhere 
else and let's say, you know, 

578
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,400
the Giants like McCarthy, but 
they don't love him. 

579
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,440
And let's say Stefanski, who you
know, is all about the Giants at

580
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,760
this point and who they wind and
dine 2 nights ago and met with 

581
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,440
yesterday extensively, well, 
maybe he gets a little turned 

582
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,040
off by not feeling the love. 
I mean, if the Giants project 

583
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,120
all this adulation and shower 
all of their attention and their

584
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,760
love for John Horbaugh, Kevin 
Stefanski, I mean, I don't know 

585
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,480
what he's thinking, but it's 
human nature. 

586
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,680
The possibility of him sitting 
there saying no, I mean, do 

587
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,840
these guys want me or not? 
Screw you. 

588
00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,320
I got this situation in wherever
I'll go to the Raiders or I'll 

589
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,640
go to the Falcons, who have a 
stud tight end, a stud wide 

590
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,440
receiver, a stud running back, 
some money to play with, a 

591
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,440
pretty good old line, pretty 
good place to live down South. 

592
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,200
Like there's other options. 
And if they don't play and it's 

593
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,760
the easiest thing to do, all 
they got to say is Mr. Mara, 

594
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,880
everybody else. 
But it's really. 

595
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,600
It's really him. 
Tish. 

596
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:21,840
You know what? 
All right. 

597
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,560
You don't want him here. 
I got you. 

598
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,160
We want you that much. 
He's out. 

599
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,680
Would they be that bold? 
I don't know. 

600
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:33,320
And yeah, you can kind of cut 
the difference and reposition 

601
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,000
him a little bit. 
And then maybe Joe Shane would 

602
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,120
say, no, I'm good, I don't know.
But like, marginalized him for 

603
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,400
another year and let horrible 
have the power have it written 

604
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,000
into the contract. 
I'm not saying that there's not 

605
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,120
a way to get this done where Joe
Shane is still in the building. 

606
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,680
All I'm saying is if it's 
presented to them and they 

607
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,240
flinch, then they're dopes 
because Joe Shane has not been 

608
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,640
good enough at his job to get in
the way of somebody who's really

609
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,960
good at his job coming in to 
save your morbid, pathetic 

610
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,040
franchise, which is what has to 
happen. 

611
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,640
That's it. 
It's really that simple. 

612
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,000
Yeah. 
Two playoff appearances in 14 

613
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,440
years, The one car one, the one 
wild card win. 

614
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,680
My God. 
And it was. 

615
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,400
Yeah. 2-3 win seasons, 3-4 win 
seasons, 5 of the 14 years. 

616
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:20,320
So almost, almost 33% of the run
this 14 year of ineptitude, 

617
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,200
right? 
Five times in 14 years. 

618
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,320
So more than 33% they have won 
three games or less. 

619
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,840
Like it's not like the Giants 
kind of lost their way. 

620
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,840
It's like, wow, the Giants suck.
They suck. 

621
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:39,080
And when you are that bad, you 
better make sure that somebody 

622
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,840
like Shane doesn't get in the 
way. 

623
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,440
And I'm not trying to rail on 
Joe Shane. 

624
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,200
I'm not trying to be that guy. 
Hey, you don't think that I'm 

625
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,880
sensitive to job security. 
If anybody sensitive to job 

626
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,680
security, it's me. 
The one difference is, you know,

627
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,320
Joe, Joe Shane gets sent the 
door. 

628
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,080
Joe Shane's got millions upon 
millions upon millions sitting 

629
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,840
in the bank. 
I got to start a show on YouTube

630
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,720
and on Twitter, which by the 
way, is doing well. 

631
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,280
So I, I'm always sensitive to 
that stuff And, and I always, 

632
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:08,080
and even even on the fan, what 
like Tom Thibodeau, you know, 

633
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,080
even even Buck at the end with 
it, when, when I think the Mets 

634
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,400
rightly decided to move on from 
Buck, I thought that was getting

635
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,360
stale. 
I am the type of person who 

636
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,400
just, and it's probably old, 
like you don't always want to 

637
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,400
have to preface as you're saying
something. 

638
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,280
If you always preface it, it's 
annoying, but that's important 

639
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,800
to me. 
So anytime there's a there's an 

640
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,520
issue of job security or 
potential issue of job security,

641
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,880
I try to preface it with the 
human element because, you know,

642
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,120
I'm here now and, and, and 
others have been there and many 

643
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,000
of you watching this have been 
there, if not all of you on some

644
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,080
level at some point in your 
life. 

645
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,400
So it's not about just taking a,
a Wrecking Ball to Joe Shane's 

646
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,200
reputation or just be that guy 
who was just unnecessarily mean.

647
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,360
Guy hasn't done a good job. 
That's the most honest 

648
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,840
evaluation. 
Yeah, it really is. 

649
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,440
So, all right, let me get some 
of these questions. 

650
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,320
I believe that this I believe 
that this should work here. 

651
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,040
OK, so now, is this true? 
So McDaniel was just fired. 

652
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:10,880
Is that true? 
Yep. 

653
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,360
He's gone. 
OK, so let me see here. 

654
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,639
Hey, look at that. 
We fave little bells and 

655
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:16,000
whistles. 
Here we go. 

656
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,600
I told you, and I did that 
without my son who was in 

657
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,639
school. 
All right, here we go. 

658
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:27,159
Thank you for this is great 
sweet potato, sweet potato 

659
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,760
instead of Mike in Jersey on the
fan, it's sweet potato on on 

660
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,080
Twitter and YouTube. 
It's all good. 

661
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,560
And he says Nick Daniel fired in
Miami. 

662
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,400
John John Horribaugh will be the
new coach. 

663
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,120
Well, this is what I'm talking 
about here and that is why when 

664
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,560
I ran through the six openings, 
but also the potential for an 

665
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,840
opening in Miami. 
And thank you for the for the 

666
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,840
text there, sweet potato. 
When I talked about Miami, maybe

667
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,960
Dallas, lesser extent Dallas, 
but certainly Miami was always 

668
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,000
prominently on my on my mind 
that I said that as one of the 

669
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,520
other spots. 
Yeah, Miami, the Bills, of 

670
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,880
course, if they don't win and 
they'll play well, that will be 

671
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,080
appealing. 
Yeah. 

672
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,280
I mean, jeez, if you're John 
Horbaugh now, the difference 

673
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,480
there is you don't have a 
quarterback, you got better 

674
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,320
weather, the taxes are better, 
you know, the lifestyle better 

675
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,800
You're not sitting on. 
Well, not that he'd be on the 

676
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,040
Bell Parkway, but, you know, 
you're not going to be on the 

677
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,760
Garden State or the Turnpike, 
you know, bumper to bumper at 

678
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,720
the wrong time. 
Is that more appealing? 

679
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,080
It very well might be. 
And this is one of the many 

680
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,840
complicated aspects of the 
Giants trying to hire the right 

681
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,120
guy. 
So as now the flirtation with 

682
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:40,120
Miami comes on John Harbaugh. 
Well, now the giants, they they 

683
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,320
got to play this deck properly. 
Where All right, that's our 

684
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,760
focus. 
But hey, Stefanski, you still 

685
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,920
feel the love. 
McCarthy, you're still engaged 

686
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,480
and these coordinators were 
talking to you. 

687
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:55,320
This is a big, big undertaking 
and it's a very tricky dance. 

688
00:35:55,320 --> 00:36:00,800
So you know, I I don't know how 
easily it's going to be. 

689
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,880
You know how easy it's going to 
be to get him here. 

690
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,320
Let's see here. 
Papa Serpico, isn't it as simple

691
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,800
as if Horrible wants the job, 
it's his. 

692
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,880
This sure seems to be the 
perception around football from 

693
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,000
what I've seen. 
Yeah, I would think so, Sir. 

694
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:14,720
But go. 
Sure. 

695
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,680
But now, something like Miami 
and some of these other 

696
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,960
appealing openings, those are 
two different things. 

697
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,680
If Horrible wants the job, it's 
it's going to be his, provided 

698
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,400
the Giants don't mess it up. 
Which again, I don't think that 

699
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,160
they will with Shane. 
And by the way, I'm not even a 

700
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,320
hunt. 
I mean, I would think it's 

701
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,080
common, common sense, human 
nature. 

702
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:34,800
You want to work with people 
that you know, there's a 

703
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,440
familiarity. 
You know, the horrible's not 

704
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,600
coming in and say, you know, 
Joe, I really think that we 

705
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,680
should draft this guy in the 
first round. 

706
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,400
The Joe Shane saying, I don't 
know, coach, I like this guy. 

707
00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:48,360
Our scouts have graded them out 
for the last four months and the

708
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,040
combines coming up and we were 
that's not happening. 

709
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:52,800
Nobody thinks that the end of 
that's happening. 

710
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,120
Just close up shop, then the 
Giants may roll. 

711
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,280
I mean, then there there are two
levels below The Jets, which is 

712
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,080
basically physically and 
physically impossible. 

713
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,480
So I don't think it's about 
thank you about him having the 

714
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:12,160
issue or like them wanting him. 
I think it's the other things 

715
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,800
that they're going to have to 
sort through other very 

716
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,640
interesting openings here. 
And, you know, I I I just, I 

717
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,760
hope they don't mess this up. 
Let's get this guy up. 

718
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,280
Tony Terzi, what's going on? 
Tony, how you doing, buddy? 

719
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,840
Appreciate you checking in. 
I agree with Art Stapleton. 

720
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,120
Arts Good Does good work here. 
That if Philly loses their wild 

721
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,160
card game, Siriani very well 
might be out and Horbaugh ends 

722
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,560
up there. 
I've said that. 

723
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,880
I said that yesterday. 
I said that the day before. 

724
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,920
Yeah. 
I mean, the way Philly looked at

725
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,040
points this year where their 
offense couldn't do a damn 

726
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,800
thing. 
Thanks for the text there, Tony.

727
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,720
Appreciate it, man. 
The the issue and the issues 

728
00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:50,720
that were present for a big 
chunk of the season for Philly, 

729
00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:54,920
Well, I mean, there's a level of
tolerance down there as well. 

730
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,040
And unlike the Giants and The 
Jets, their bar is actually one 

731
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,040
of a championship level, which 
is nice. 

732
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,720
And it'd be nice to get there, 
which hopefully both of these 

733
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:05,240
teams at some point will. 
And I think the Giants are 

734
00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:07,280
closer based on the quarterback 
and all the other stuff and 

735
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,320
probably could have a a real 
head coach here. 

736
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,920
At least I don't, I don't mean 
Aaron's not a real coach, but I 

737
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,320
mean a coach who's actually 1 
and was a real asset rather than

738
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,120
somebody who's figuring things 
out and was was a disaster as a 

739
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,880
head coach this past season. 
Yeah, he also worked there for 9

740
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,400
years. 
And talk about familiarity. 

741
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,880
Absolutely. 
I mean, that is something that 

742
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,640
could absolutely be in play. 
All right, this. 

743
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,120
I made The Martian. 
What the hell is going on with 

744
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,080
YouTube? 
I bet I can't keep addressing 

745
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,360
this. 
Basically, I made an unknowing. 

746
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,160
In fact, it was an infraction. 
And there's all these, you know,

747
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,640
rules with YouTube, which I get 
and I'm certainly not here to 

748
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,360
not adhere to them. 
I want to I just didn't know 

749
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,880
about this one thing. 
And it was nothing egregious. 

750
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:53,000
Like it was nothing where I said
the wrong thing or a copyright 

751
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,200
or infringement or trademark, 
none of that stuff. 

752
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,880
It was something that was an 
innocent mistake on on our end. 

753
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,840
And now they've got to go 
through the process of reviewing

754
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,800
it and you know, eventually this
thing is going to be rectified. 

755
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,400
I didn't even get a strike or a 
warning. 

756
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,680
So it's below that and and it's 
going to be rectified. 

757
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,400
I just I and I listen, man, I 
appreciate the question. 

758
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,320
I just can't control it, but I 
wish I could. 

759
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:18,640
Trust me. 
I really wish I could. 

760
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,600
What else we got here? 
All right, there. 

761
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:22,120
You. 
Oh, yeah. 

762
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,160
I I don't know why it wasn't up 
for the first minute or so. 

763
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,840
So a lot of people saying there 
you are. 

764
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,280
All right, Shows on their way 
the go the Stapleton thing. 

765
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,560
I want to give you something on 
the Knicks. 

766
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,720
I want to get a few more of 
these. 

767
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,880
All right, Yeah, This one's 
interesting. 

768
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,920
This connect. 
This is more about horrible and 

769
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,760
but this is interesting. 
So Steven Ross is a Michigan 

770
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,880
man, as we know. 
Plus Jim Harbaugh was the 

771
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,120
quarterback in Michigan and 
obviously we know what he did in

772
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,560
Michigan. 
John Harbaugh is his brother. 

773
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,920
So is there an opening there? 
Yeah. 

774
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,480
I mean, I I I don't know. 
I mean, John Harbaugh is not a 

775
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,280
Michigan man. 
Jim is so, but again, 

776
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,480
familiarity, trust, family name,
sure. 

777
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,400
Put it this way, there's a very 
easy dialogue that can occur and

778
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,520
a very easy conversation in 
terms of level of comfort based 

779
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,280
on Jim's history with Ross and 
with Michigan and all that 

780
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,920
stuff. 
So I I would think that Jim will

781
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,760
give John the most honest 
evaluation of Ross as an owner 

782
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,680
and all that stuff. 
And you know, here's the 

783
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:20,960
dialogue. 
Yeah, that's going to be an 

784
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,920
issue there. 
There really is. 

785
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,400
Another one or something. 
By the way, throw some jets up 

786
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,920
there as well. 
Let's go here. 

787
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,760
Let's go here. 
Let's go here. 

788
00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:37,360
Yeah. 
Mazzilli 13. 

789
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,480
Ain't ain't no more lisp in this
mug. 

790
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,760
Hey, I figured it out. 
Thank God, man. 

791
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,840
And I told you what happened. 
It was a very basic mistake. 

792
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:45,800
Of course. 
Whose mistake? 

793
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,400
It was mine. 
I wonder how I can make such a 

794
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,760
mistake, you know, jumping onto 
this new platform and trying to 

795
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,000
figure this out on the fly on a 
tightrope with no net. 

796
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,000
I don't know. 
I wonder how could that happen? 

797
00:40:57,240 --> 00:41:02,480
Well, the the technical answer 
is, is that this microphone, 

798
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,760
while the green button obviously
tells you that I'm on, I 

799
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,320
unknowingly on the laptop that's
in front of me here right there,

800
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:15,440
I unknowingly had the my, my, my
laptop microphone on. 

801
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:20,400
So it was catching for a lack of
a better audio technical 

802
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,280
description. 
It was it was catching strays. 

803
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,920
So like, it made it seem like I 
had a lisp and it was not clear.

804
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,080
It was not good. 
It was. 

805
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:28,200
Yeah. 
What are you gonna do? 

806
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,160
I mean, come on. 
All right, So as, as these other

807
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:36,240
ones are popping in here, let me
give you a little something on 

808
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:38,880
our New York Knicks. 
Last night was about some pride 

809
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,360
for the Knicks. 
I had to see something here. 

810
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,720
And I tweeted before the game, I
said we're not going to learn a 

811
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:46,040
ton necessarily about the Knicks
last night, but we're going to 

812
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:51,600
learn a little something here. 
Like to get nutty, to get to go 

813
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:56,320
crazy over a couple of regular 
season losses in a row when you 

814
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,000
don't have your glue guy, Josh 
Hart. 

815
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,080
Although, I mean, come on. 
Yeah, you got Bronson, you got 

816
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,560
Cat, you got Bridges, you got 
OG, you got Deuce back, win some

817
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,680
games, like. 
And I love Josh Hart. 

818
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,880
I love him. 
I'm one of his biggest fans and 

819
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,840
every Knick fan loves him. 
But the inability to win games, 

820
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,720
you can't just say, well, it's 
because of Josh Hart. 

821
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,760
It's not like Patrick Ewings 
gone, you know, or, you know, 

822
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,640
the one or two good teams that 
the Knicks had with Carmelo. 

823
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,240
Carmelo's out, you know, I mean,
or Amari, no, I mean, you should

824
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:27,200
be able to plow through, but 
it's the NBA and I don't. 

825
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,800
Last night was a good example 
because think about the 

826
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,000
Clippers, where they got a lot 
of talent. 

827
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:35,360
They started the season 6 and 
14, and then before last night 

828
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,560
they had won seven of eight. 
So they were playing a good 

829
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,800
team. 
It's the Clippers only only game

830
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,400
at the Garden and you know how 
it goes. 

831
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,920
You know, now Jordan and those 
guys would get more than one. 

832
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:49,360
But magic comes in from the West
Coast or you know, whomever and 

833
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,520
any Great Western confidence 
player over the years comes in, 

834
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,160
they want to put on a show. 
Even LeBron playing there a 

835
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,160
couple of a couple of times a 
year as a Cav or as a Heat, as a

836
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,120
member of the Heat. 
You know, you Dwyane Wade, you 

837
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,240
just you want to go Kobe coming 
in as once a year you going from

838
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:06,000
50 or 60, you try to put on a 
show. 

839
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,880
So while the Clippers don't have
a Kobe or something like that, 

840
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,880
they got a lot of talent and and
I just wanted to see like, all 

841
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,400
right, like how serious did the 
Knicks take in this losing 

842
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,440
streak? 
It's one thing to lose 4 games 

843
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,640
and and not go nuts here. 
But hey, you lose if you lose at

844
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,120
home again. 
What's it look like optically? 

845
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,920
So a lot of good things last 
night. 

846
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,360
Now I just want to reference 
something here because I heard. 

847
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,560
So I think Wally said this last 
night while the Serbiak was 

848
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,920
great. 
Yeah. 

849
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:37,280
So not only with the Clippers 
winning and demonstrating that 

850
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,120
they will become the team that I
think some people thought they 

851
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,920
would be at the start of the 
year, but like their defense was

852
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,040
really good in. 
So they won seven of eight in 

853
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,240
six of the seven wins. 
They allowed one O 5 or fewer, 

854
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,440
which is going to be a good test
for the Knicks defense, which 

855
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,640
obviously is very, very good. 
So I loved what I saw. 

856
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,200
And listen, anybody could look 
down at a piece of paper and I'm

857
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,800
going to do it for a second, but
and just give you a couple of 

858
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,400
numbers. 
But there's one that I want to 

859
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:02,880
elaborate on more in a little 
bit. 

860
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,280
So they shot it well, 50% 
overall. 

861
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:10,120
That's good, 4243% from 
downtown, +8 on the backboard. 

862
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,360
But what what I was really 
impressed with, I got a geek out

863
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,760
for. 
It's not quite baseball savant, 

864
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,560
but I'm going to geek out for a 
second here because I don't even

865
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,920
think that I've referenced this 
stat in the NBA. 

866
00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:25,920
And the Knicks had 31 assists 
last night, which just speaks to

867
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,320
optimal ball movement. 
And then obviously guys make a 

868
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,120
shot. 
But doing the right thing and 

869
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,120
sharing the ball, right? 
Well, the Knicks is amazing 

870
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,560
where we are as sports fans, 
right? 

871
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:41,680
The Knicks, The Knicks averaged 
2 Hunts is ridiculous. 290 

872
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,320
passes per game. 
So midcourt, balls up, opening 

873
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:49,080
tip, final buzzer, they averaged
290 passes. 

874
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,040
Could be a full court pass, 
could be 1/2 court pass that 

875
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:57,280
goes 3 feet, 290 passes. 
The previous game they had 240. 

876
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,440
All right, well, that obviously 
speaks to a lack of ball 

877
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,640
movement. 
And that's the game where Karl 

878
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,280
Anthony Towns only took four 
shots, right? 

879
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:08,920
He had six turnovers, didn't 
play well. 

880
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:14,080
So I needed to see the Knicks 
get back to #1 playing with 

881
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:18,360
purpose and playing with pride. 
But doing what if it's going to 

882
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,240
separate them from anybody, 
Certainly in the Eastern 

883
00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:23,720
Conference, being the best, 
being the best offense in the 

884
00:45:23,720 --> 00:45:26,760
Eastern Conference. 
And last night was a good step 

885
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,240
in that direction. 
You know, I heard my I was in 

886
00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:35,280
the car and I was listening to 
Mike Brown's pregame show on the

887
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,160
radio and, and look, Mike Brown,
he's got great perspective now. 

888
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,600
No, when you're the coach of the
Knicks, nobody really wants to 

889
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,360
hear about life lessons like did
we win? 

890
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,560
Did we lose? 
Did we get back on defense? 

891
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,360
Are we healthy? 
Like where we at? 

892
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:55,280
But Mike Brown was talking about
adversity and even started to go

893
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,120
into, and I agree with this. 
Like if, if you don't have any 

894
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,640
adversity in your life that 
hopefully, you know, it's, it's 

895
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:10,000
it's not irreversible adversity,
you know, but adversity builds 

896
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,600
character. 
And I think this is a prime 

897
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,920
example of what I'm trying to 
plow through here, you know, and

898
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,480
not I'm not trying to put myself
up on a pedestal, but to think 

899
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,040
that I haven't dealt with 
adversity even before, you know,

900
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,880
the last month or so when things
change to the fan. 

901
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,480
What are you kidding me? 
Of course, you know, I mean, I 

902
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,520
could without even thinking, you
know, my senior in college, I 

903
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,840
had Tommy John surgery, you 
know, I mean, that you think 

904
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,440
that's a fun way to try to go 
through your senior year. 

905
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,080
Now, I knew I wasn't going to 
make it on the highest level, 

906
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,680
but it was my senior year and I 
had already medically redshirted

907
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,240
because I got in a car accident,
a really bad one on the Bell 

908
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:47,680
Parkway about two days before I 
went to school, which is not a 

909
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,400
good way to start. 
And I had a red shirt my first 

910
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,960
year cuz I, I mean, I couldn't 
walk. 

911
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,520
I mean, I couldn't even start 
college right away. 

912
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,560
And, and that, that was tough 
and I had to plow through it, 

913
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,000
right. 
And then when I got hurt, I, I 

914
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:04,280
hurt my elbow in fall practice 
and I knew something was wrong. 

915
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:08,040
I'm like, what is this man? 
It just like I knew something 

916
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,400
was really wrong. 
So finally I go to the trainer 

917
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:15,160
and get the Mris, blah, blah, 
blah, go to HSS, have surgery 

918
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,360
November 1st. 
All right, that was Doctor 

919
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,640
Olchek passed away. 
Doctor Olchek, the former Mets 

920
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,840
doctor, Giants, he's the one who
did my my Tommy John surgery at 

921
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,600
HSS and I had it on the I'll 
never forget this. 

922
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,760
I had it on November 1st, Right.
And the issue here is adversity.

923
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,160
It's not a baseball story 
because it's not like the season

924
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,080
went great. 
That's like I'm going to say, Oh

925
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,120
yeah, by the way, I made first 
team ball conference, hit nine 

926
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,640
home runs and hit 390. 
No, that didn't happen. 

927
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,080
But what I did do was come back 
and play on Saint Patty's Day. 

928
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,000
So I had surgery November 1st, 
right? 

929
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:54,680
December is one month, January, 
February, March, 4 months and 

930
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,680
basically 17 days. 
I played in the Division One 

931
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,960
college baseball game and my 
first at bat I struck out. 

932
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:02,840
And my second at bat I struck 
out. 

933
00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:06,240
And my third at bat, I'll never 
forget 3rd at bat, struck out, 

934
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:12,560
4th at bat struck out. 
Now we we're playing Hofstra, 

935
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:13,760
we're playing somebody down 
South. 

936
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:14,960
It was like a big tournament. 
Whatever. 

937
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,120
And of course I get up bases 
loaded. 

938
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,000
True story. 2 outs and it's 
ties. 

939
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,440
Score over the home team. 
I'm like, you got to be kidding 

940
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,480
me man. 
Four punch outs. 

941
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,920
I'm terrified to swing. 
I haven't even taken a live 

942
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,240
batting practice in the game 
yet. 

943
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,840
First pitch strike, second pitch
strike. 

944
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,760
I'm like, I'm looking at 5 
strikeouts, man. 

945
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,240
I, I should not be playing here.
Guy throws a little righty, you 

946
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:43,840
know, 8182 mile per hour slider 
on the black. 

947
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,000
I kind of flick it. 
Foul down the third baseline, 

948
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:51,080
left the hitter right, wind up 
grinding out a walk, which felt 

949
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:55,040
like, you know, Mazeroski's home
run against the Yankees, like a 

950
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,880
walk. 
Like you want to talk about 

951
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,280
feeling a sense of 
accomplishment. 

952
00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:01,160
And that was an adversity, 
obviously. 

953
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,560
And I played that year and I 
didn't play great, but I got 

954
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,480
through the whole year. 
And my elbow to this day still 

955
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,360
hurts because I came back too 
early like an idiot. 

956
00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:10,600
But it taught me to deal with 
adversity. 

957
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,880
So when things went down to the 
fan or other things in my life, 

958
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,600
I have, I have, I guess I've 
I've calloused myself to deal 

959
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,240
with it. 
And that's why I know that's 

960
00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:23,320
like a deeper, probably not even
know if that was a very 

961
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,600
interesting story, whatever. 
But just this is what we're 

962
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:26,880
going to do. 
I mean, hopefully it'll be 

963
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,520
interesting, but if I got 
something to kind of weave in on

964
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,360
a human level, I'm definitely 
going to do it. 

965
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,400
And I think you baseball players
and former athletes will will 

966
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,240
appreciate that. 
Did you want to talk about being

967
00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:39,800
vulnerable, being at a home 
plate with the bases loaded and 

968
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,520
it's O2 and you struck out your 
first four times and you got 

969
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,600
this monstrosity of a brace on 
your elbow? 

970
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,440
Oh my God almighty. 
So Mike was back to Mike Brown. 

971
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,560
Mike was talking about adversity
and going through it, and he 

972
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,440
kind of branched into the life 
adversity. 

973
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,760
But adversity is a team and I 
think that it was on point and 

974
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,680
he stopped himself short and I 
think rightfully so of talking 

975
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,800
about real life. 
If it wasn't like a free flowing

976
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,680
format where it's a 30 minute 
conversation. 

977
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,080
It's like 3-4 minutes meeting 
the media before the game. 

978
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,080
But I thought his messaging was 
really good. 

979
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,600
And when I heard that, I'm like,
all right, they're ready to go 

980
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:15,960
tonight. 
They're ready to play now. 

981
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,200
The second-half obviously was a 
lot better than the first half 

982
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,800
there. 
But I thought that that was one 

983
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,320
of those nights in the NBA for 
for a good team, not a perfect 

984
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,760
team, but certainly one of the 
better teams in the NBA. 

985
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,800
Like the Knicks are all right, 
despite the four-game skid and 

986
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,840
being a couple of games behind 
the Pistons and now being in the

987
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,760
third seed. 
Maybe Todd, I got to double 

988
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,480
check they were behind Boston 
last night. 

989
00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:39,960
Maybe they're tied with. 
Either way, I thought it showed 

990
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,080
a little bit their resolve and a
little bit of a look into the 

991
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,720
window of their soul. 
Like, OK, all right, you guys do

992
00:50:47,720 --> 00:50:49,720
care the way we thought you 
cared. 

993
00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:52,560
You guys do have the pride that 
many of us thought that you had.

994
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,680
And maybe more importantly, you 
know, you've got a coach who's 

995
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,720
who's able to identify this 
eloquently, speak to it, and 

996
00:50:59,720 --> 00:51:03,280
then your team go out and back 
him up and and and and play well

997
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,720
and get a win there. 
So to think that last night was 

998
00:51:05,720 --> 00:51:08,360
just one of 82 for the Knicks. 
I don't I don't agree with that 

999
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:09,640
at all. 
There's no way. 

1000
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:12,960
Yeah, I remember saying it was a
Christmas Day. 

1001
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:14,600
Well, I mean, I know the game 
was Christmas. 

1002
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,120
Did I do a pod? 
I think I did it, yeah. 

1003
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,160
So December 26th, I did one of 
the first pods on the YouTube 

1004
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,400
page. 
And by the way, all the content 

1005
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,520
is there from even today's show 
will be, even though I can't 

1006
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,400
live stream right now on 
YouTube, all the shows after 

1007
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,960
this one bang uploaded right to 
YouTube at BT Unleashed. 

1008
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,600
It's all there. 
Dive in, like, comment, 

1009
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,080
subscribe, all that good stuff, 
right. 

1010
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,680
I was taught about the Knicks 
and that was when Kolak really 

1011
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,600
did well on Christmas Day and 
they came back and and they had 

1012
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,840
that, the big deficit. 
It was a really fun, I thought, 

1013
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,640
galvanizing win. 
And then it just kind of 

1014
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,960
disappeared. 
And I'm like, well, I don't 

1015
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,240
know. 
I'm not going to attribute that 

1016
00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:57,680
necessarily to the Cup, but I 
remember saying shortly 

1017
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,160
thereafter, like, all right, 
guys, there's only a couple of 

1018
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,360
games out of 82. 
It's not the NFL where we 

1019
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,680
measure every week like it's 
literally a season rather than a

1020
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,400
singular game like every NFL 
Sunday. 

1021
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,480
You know, especially, you know, 
for The Jets, like in September 

1022
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,520
when they're still in it and the
Giants, you know, when they're 

1023
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,080
still in it. 
It it it takes on this, this, 

1024
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,280
this heaviness that leads to 
just a different energy and a 

1025
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,040
different dissection of the 
performance. 

1026
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,840
And rightfully so, because if 
you start out O and four in the 

1027
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,280
NFL, there's a couple teams that
have plowed through. 

1028
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,960
The Jets did that once with her 
maybe O and four, O and five, 

1029
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,760
maybe even before they beat the 
Chargers years ago and got going

1030
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,880
a little bit. 
But if you're if you have a 

1031
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,800
doughnut next to your name in 
September, you're done. 

1032
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,240
Think about the Clippers. 
They started 6 and 14. 

1033
00:52:41,240 --> 00:52:43,680
I just said that before and they
had won seven of eight going 

1034
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,720
into last night. 
So I don't go nuts about a rough

1035
00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:49,560
regular season game or a rough 
regular season stretch. 

1036
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,760
But I've always thought that 
there's a couple of measurement 

1037
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,720
games where you can circle, 
whether it's the team that you 

1038
00:52:56,720 --> 00:52:58,960
think you're going to play in 
the Finals in your conference to

1039
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,760
get to the NBA Finals, or the 
team at the other conference 

1040
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,760
that everybody, mainly you, 
perceive to be your chief threat

1041
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,520
to a title back in the day. 
All right, Ewing's playing the 

1042
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:09,200
Bulls. 
Let's go. 

1043
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,200
Let's see where we're at. 
Obviously, you know, you have a 

1044
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:17,040
match up now against the Denver 
or the Spurs with Wembley or 

1045
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,960
obviously. 
OK, see, all right, let's see 

1046
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,040
where we're at. 
Now. 

1047
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,520
What bothered me about the 
Pistons game is that the Pistons

1048
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,840
took that as a measurement game 
and the Knicks did not. 

1049
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,600
And that was utterly 
unacceptable. 

1050
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,320
So that's why when I say last 
night was a let's lift up the 

1051
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,360
hood and see what kind of guts 
these guys have. 

1052
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,320
Let's see where the level of 
pride is at. 

1053
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,880
I I thought the Knicks looked 
really good last night. 

1054
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,640
Got back to doing what they do 
and it it seemed, well, I mean, 

1055
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,960
and the stats bear this out 
based on the 31 assists and 

1056
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,040
getting back to great ball 
movement where they averaged 290

1057
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,760
passes a game and they got back 
to that last night despite 

1058
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,440
having 50 fewer the previous 
game. 

1059
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,840
It showed me that there's a 
little in season tweaking 

1060
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,280
adjustment. 
Like Jalen Brunson was not as 

1061
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,160
bold nominant last night as he's
been now. 

1062
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,520
That's part of the brilliance of
Bronson. 

1063
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,640
Hey, go get us a bucket, man. 
Let's go. 

1064
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,400
We're double team. 
Whatever, get out of it, get the

1065
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,640
ball back, sublime footwork, 
fall away 3 get to the rim 

1066
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,960
floater. 
Like we need to jail the 

1067
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:19,560
Brunson's the guy to go get it. 
But I also thought that, and I 

1068
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,880
think that the I really believe 
this, like his greatest Brunson 

1069
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,720
is the the onus is on him. 
Sure, Mike Brown to divide stuff

1070
00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:30,720
and whatever he's got to make 
sure that Carl Anthony Towns 

1071
00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:33,800
doesn't get four shots in 22 
minutes. 

1072
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,160
Now the onus is also on Karl 
Anthony Towns to stop flailing 

1073
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:41,120
away with the stupid fouls. 
And he looked good last night to

1074
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,480
be assertive in the post, demand
the ball, you know, get to the 

1075
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,520
rim, get to the stripe. 
But he can't do it without the 

1076
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,360
ball. 
So there's got to be that that, 

1077
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,560
that, that interplay there. 
And I thought last night we had 

1078
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,640
it was pretty good. 
And let me get a couple of 

1079
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:59,640
comments here. 
Let's see what we got this year.

1080
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,800
I think McCarthy would be better
for DART Agent 00. 

1081
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,640
Yeah, I mean, I'd like to know 
the reasoning. 

1082
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:06,880
I mean, I'm. 
I'm sure I could guess what it 

1083
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:07,800
is. 
Thank you for that, buddy. 

1084
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,520
I would think that it's because 
he's done it with multiple 

1085
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:14,080
quarterbacks there. 
Whereas, you know, Harbaugh 

1086
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:19,720
inherited an amazing defense, 
one of the best of all time and 

1087
00:55:19,720 --> 00:55:22,800
in a young quarterback. 
To be fair to Harbaugh, a lot of

1088
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,600
people didn't even believe 
should be a quarterback, which I

1089
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:31,440
thought honestly, if you watched
Lamar Jackson in college, you 

1090
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:35,960
know that some of the pre draft 
evaluation and noise, it was 

1091
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,880
reprehensible. 
And I don't use that word too 

1092
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,360
much because that's like I think
that's over sensationalizing 

1093
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,280
sometimes. 
It was reprehensible the way he 

1094
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,720
was perceived. 
I mean, God barely got drafted 

1095
00:55:45,720 --> 00:55:47,520
in the first round. 
Now, I'm not saying Lamar 

1096
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,080
Jackson's not perfect, but if 
you watched Louisville, they ran

1097
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,800
a pro offense. 
You just had to watch 

1098
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,920
Louisville. 
And if you didn't, you know, 

1099
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,320
maybe you had some preconceived 
notions about quarterbacks in 

1100
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,840
the NFL. 
You know, Antoine Randall L back

1101
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,600
in the day. 
We, we know that, you know, we, 

1102
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:03,880
we know that there's been 
problems there. 

1103
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:08,680
Now we're past that. 
But Lamar might not be perfect, 

1104
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,000
but neither is Dak Prescott. 
He's not perfect. 

1105
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,480
He's not. 
He's not 50% the athlete. 

1106
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,760
I mean, really nobody is that 
Lamar Jackson is. 

1107
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,560
But what did Mike McCarthy do? 
He coached him up to finish 

1108
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,800
second in the MVP. 
Right now, let me ask you a 

1109
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,000
question. 
Is Dak Prescott one of the five 

1110
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,160
or six best quarterbacks in the 
NFLI mean? 

1111
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,200
I don't think he is. 
You know, and even guys on bad 

1112
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,800
teams that had rough years, I 
mean, just think about what I 

1113
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,160
mean. 
Yeah, so, so obviously Burroughs

1114
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,240
Bengals of the defense thinks 
and he was hurt. 

1115
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,000
Burroughs better. 
Obviously Allen's better. 

1116
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,280
Yeah, Mahomes numbers have 
really dropped. 

1117
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,520
But yeah, and now he's hurt. 
But you got to still say Mahomes

1118
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:50,280
is better, Stafford's better. 
You know, there's there's at 

1119
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,120
least I don't even have all the 
teams in front of you. 

1120
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,480
I probably know I'm missing one 
or two and it's easy, but I 

1121
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,360
think Dax probably more 8, 
something like that, and he made

1122
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,080
him look like one or two, you 
know. 

1123
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,200
So I get it. 
I get when you say that. 

1124
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,120
Would I rather have McCarthy 
with Dart? 

1125
00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:07,000
Yes, more so than Harbaugh with 
dart. 

1126
00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:10,600
But you can't just do it for the
quarterback. 

1127
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,080
That's got to be a big part of 
the calculus there. 

1128
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:18,560
But you know, let's see. 
Mario Prosperino. 

1129
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,280
What up, Mario? 
No way. 

1130
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,600
Joe Shane hiring an alpha like 
Horbaugh, he'd rather have a yes

1131
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,320
guy. 
Hence, Stefanski will be the 

1132
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:29,440
next head coach. 
Well, all right #1 where is the 

1133
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,040
evidence that that's the case 
now I'm, I'm in the business of 

1134
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,280
being fair, I think that that's 
an unfair assertion. 

1135
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:37,960
I respect your opinion, Mario. 
I do. 

1136
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,520
I just don't think there's any 
evidence I don't, you know? 

1137
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,920
Now, he also shouldn't have the 
juice to make that decision, 

1138
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,080
which is an entirely different 
point of discussion here. 

1139
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,960
But you're saying a couple of 
things and it's a real leap of 

1140
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,840
faith on your end. 
Not that you can't be right, but

1141
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,960
you can't prove that you are 
because number one, you're 

1142
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:01,000
saying that he will not allow 
somebody in the building that is

1143
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,520
more alpha than I'm not even 
sure if Joe was out, whatever. 

1144
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,800
But so you can't prove that. 
Number two, you say that 

1145
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,000
Stefanski, which by the way 
would be a good hire by the 

1146
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:10,240
Johns. 
I think Stefanski is very good, 

1147
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:14,640
as I've said. 
And you're also saying that's 

1148
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,400
Stefanski does not have an alpha
type of personality. 

1149
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:18,960
And you could be wrong on that 
as well. 

1150
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,480
You know, I don't really know 
the answer to that. 

1151
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,080
Yeah, more stuff on the YouTube 
stuff, guys. 

1152
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:25,280
Like, I can't keep addressing 
that. 

1153
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:26,520
Trust me. 
I'm trying to plow through it. 

1154
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:29,160
If I get wrapped up in that, I'm
going to be really, really 

1155
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,800
frustrated here. 
So I am still at the point now, 

1156
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,600
guys. 
I'm still at the point, and 

1157
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,360
maybe if you're new, I'm going 
to say this very quickly. 

1158
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,480
I'm not going to belabor it. 
I am still at the point where 

1159
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,800
the thing that matters most to 
me is content is getting on the 

1160
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,640
air and firing out what I'm 
thinking, you know, structuring 

1161
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,760
a show and then all the other 
stuff. 

1162
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,720
You know, I think we got the 
audio on the control. 

1163
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,120
I figured out how to drop the 
other messages right off to the 

1164
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,200
onto the screen here. 
I figured out how to link it to 

1165
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,440
X so that once you know, you can
now simultaneously go there. 

1166
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,920
It's going to be on Instagram. 
The studio redesign is, you 

1167
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,720
know, already past phase one. 
I've got the concept now we've 

1168
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,120
got to build it out, make that 
whole back wall of the logo, 

1169
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,520
which we're in the process of 
doing, got to hire a producer, 

1170
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,160
which would allow me to do 
guests and eventually 

1171
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,560
incorporate calls. 
I get it, man, there's a lot 

1172
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,240
that I have to do here, but I'm 
pretty happy where we're at 

1173
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,880
right now, except a little issue
with YouTube. 

1174
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,440
Ian Grossman. 
All right, BT you're The Jets 

1175
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:28,840
GM. 
How does the offseason go in 

1176
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,880
your perfect world? 
Let me, I know I'm going to 

1177
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,880
sound like a pompous ass right 
now and I really don't. 

1178
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,280
I mean, I mean it a little bit, 
but I don't fully mean it 

1179
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:41,600
because I don't understand the 
contracts and like the CBA stuff

1180
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:46,880
and some of it like, so it's a 
very broad statement, but don't 

1181
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,800
you think that you could do I 
like Boji, so forget about him. 

1182
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:51,880
Don't you think that we could 
have done a better job with The 

1183
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:57,160
Jets all these years? 
Honestly, if Joe from Queens, if

1184
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:03,040
Mike from Brooklyn, if, if 
Willie from Cedar Grove, if Paul

1185
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:07,440
from Parsippany was the general 
manager of The Jets, can you 

1186
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,440
tell me that the results would 
not be better? 

1187
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,280
Can you tell me that 
definitively? 

1188
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,440
You can't tell me that you 
can't. 

1189
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,640
And by the way, how much worse 
could they be? 

1190
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,200
First and foremost? 
So I got, I know that that's 

1191
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,000
really glossing over a lot of 
things that I don't know about 

1192
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,520
being AGM, that I will never 
know and that I really don't 

1193
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,680
care to know. 
But I mean, same thing. 

1194
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,120
All those years the Knicks were 
in the in the toilet and even 

1195
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:31,920
some of the baseball moves with 
the Yanks and the Mets. 

1196
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,280
Like, I mean, I think we all 
think that we could do it on 

1197
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,600
some level. 
Now, to think that we can do 

1198
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,240
what Cashman has done is 
probably ridiculous because they

1199
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,400
win a lot. 
But like when the Knicks were in

1200
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,760
the toilet all those years going
through Fizdale and Horta, 

1201
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,000
second, Fisher, I couldn't do 
that. 

1202
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:48,720
I promise you I could have done 
that. 

1203
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,680
So anyway, let me ask answer 
Ian's question, All right, 

1204
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,360
You're The Jets GM. 
How does the offseason go in 

1205
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:58,160
your perfect world? 
That is a quiet. 

1206
01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:59,800
I'm going to have to take a 
little sip of coffee here, 

1207
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,360
there, Joe. 
And really, Ian, pardon me, 

1208
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:07,480
really contemplate this. 
OK, contemplation complete. 

1209
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:11,880
Thank you for the text, Ian. 
The first level of perfection 

1210
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:16,920
will be a sequence of events 
that put The Jets in a position 

1211
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,680
to do whatever they want. 
Now what does that mean? 

1212
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,400
That's a very nebulous 
description. 

1213
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:28,200
Well, here it is number 1. 
I almost want Mendoza to play 

1214
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,160
poorly in the national semi 
final game. 

1215
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,240
I've already seen enough. 
He's the man. 

1216
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,240
He's going to be phenomenal. 
I I see a lot of Matt Ryan with 

1217
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,520
him and I love Matt Ryan. 
I think Matt Ryan's a Hall of 

1218
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,400
Famer. 
I love Matt Matt Ryan who's 

1219
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:43,120
great wanted MVP. 
Like if you're Matt Ryan, we we 

1220
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:44,360
good. 
We're we're in pretty good 

1221
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:45,760
shape. 
If you're Matt Ryan and he's 

1222
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,840
better athlete than Matt Ryan, a
little quicker and about the 

1223
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:50,360
same size. 
And I think we'll project to be 

1224
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:55,200
even a little thicker, you know,
because he's 65220 five, I think

1225
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,360
he gets up to 235. 
I don't think Matt ever played a

1226
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:58,960
tube. 
Right now, Matt looks like a 

1227
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:00,840
look at, he's a cross country 
runner. 

1228
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,160
He's really thinned out through 
with the TV. 

1229
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,480
He's good on TV. 
So the first thing is I would 

1230
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:10,000
like to see Mendoza play poorly.
And then subsequently I would 

1231
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,560
like to see Dante Moore play 
really well because that could 

1232
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,200
be the enticement. 
And let's face it, as much as we

1233
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,680
whine and cry about The Jets, 
one team that's Dumber is the 

1234
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,160
Raiders. 
Now they got Tom Brady, who very

1235
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,920
well might make the right 
decision and make the next 20 

1236
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,720
years health for us. 
Again, like that's very 

1237
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,320
possible. 
Matter of fact, part of me 

1238
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:31,360
thinks that that's going to 
happen. 

1239
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,600
But I've been those are stumbles
more. 

1240
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:38,000
And even if Moore doesn't win, 
but if Moore just looks the part

1241
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,000
and there's a real decision 
inside that Raiders building, 

1242
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:42,760
right? 
And now maybe one of these 

1243
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,720
coaches is like, I love Dante 
Moore, man. 

1244
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,960
I want to coach that kid. 
I know he's only 20, you know, I

1245
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,360
know he's only £206.00. 
We got to get him in the weight 

1246
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,320
room. 
He hasn't played a lot because 

1247
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,520
he backed up last year behind 
Gabriel. 

1248
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,520
He was a starter most of the 
year, first, first year at UCLA,

1249
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:58,800
got knocked around, took his 
lumps. 

1250
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,120
Like he doesn't have a ton of 
experience like Mendoza has. 

1251
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,760
It's almost more like, well, Ty 
Simpson's more like Sanchez when

1252
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,920
The Jets took him. 
Obviously Moore's played a lot 

1253
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:08,800
more than that, but there's 
still the wrongness with him. 

1254
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,080
So the projectability of 
somebody like Dante Moore is 

1255
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:16,120
there in terms of, OK, you know,
so there could be appeal there. 

1256
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,120
And if that happens, to answer 
your question more directly, if 

1257
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:22,160
that happens, well, now, now the
Raiders have a decision and then

1258
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,920
The Jets have no decision. 
If they take Dante Moore, well, 

1259
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,120
you take Mendoza. 
If they take Mendoza. 

1260
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,920
And Dante Moore looks even 
better than I and I like them. 

1261
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,200
I wouldn't take him to number 2 
for The Jets right now. 

1262
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:35,560
That's my opinion. 
That could change. 

1263
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,160
I don't think it will unless he 
plays really well. 

1264
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,240
He's just too raw. 
I don't think he's ready for The

1265
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,800
Jets and not even to to tap into
the mindset that The Jets will 

1266
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,120
ruin any everybody like they 
usually do. 

1267
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,920
I'm not even beholden to that. 
I just don't think he's ready 

1268
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:50,920
for this. 
I, I even though the old line's 

1269
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,240
a lot better, I'd be very 
reluctant to do that. 

1270
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:57,640
But if Muji thinks he's the man,
then take him either way by more

1271
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:01,200
playing great. 
And it opens up an amazing world

1272
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,880
of possibilities for The Jets 
because now they don't have to 

1273
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,720
maybe trade up to get their 
quarterback or maybe if they 

1274
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:10,880
like more or, or use those 
assets in 2027, three of which 

1275
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,680
are in the first round to do 
something this year or next 

1276
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,000
year. 
If more is the real deal and 

1277
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:17,560
they love them. 
You got your quarterback, you 

1278
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,640
start there. 
And then really the other thing 

1279
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,840
that you would have to do, you 
would probably use that if you 

1280
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,840
use the second pick on a 
quarterback, and I don't know 

1281
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,280
that they absolutely will. 
Cause Dante Moore could flop and

1282
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,960
he stays at Oregon or he says 
I'm not going to The Jets. 

1283
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:32,600
Well, then The Jets could trade 
out of two. 

1284
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,160
That's an option. 
He goes back to Oregon, gets $11

1285
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,760
million in NIL money. 
Jets have to do something 

1286
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,720
different, get a bridge in here 
and they could then they could 

1287
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:44,800
then maybe draft, trade out of 
two, get more assets and then 

1288
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,240
get the get the big receiver 
opposite Garrett Wilson list. 

1289
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,120
You need a corner, you need a 
safety. 

1290
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,240
I think you one more offense, 
it's a lineman away from having 

1291
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,200
a top three top 4 online in 
football. 

1292
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:59,280
I said that yesterday. 
The Jets online is, you know, is

1293
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,280
between old fashion new and 
membered on the right side. 

1294
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,200
They love Titman got the 
extension. 

1295
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:08,880
Simpson could walk whatever, you
know, Meyer, Meyers, I I think 

1296
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,080
that it's really good. 
And then you throw in like if 

1297
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,960
The Jets start next season with 
one more old lineman and I got 

1298
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:16,440
to see what they do with breeze 
hall as well. 

1299
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,760
But it let's assume he's back 
for a second. 

1300
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:22,760
The cop Alvin's healthy as a 
Davis good running game. 

1301
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:27,880
Garrett Wilson 63210 guy on the 
outside, 5050 ball, red zone 

1302
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,720
threat like like Keyshawn. 
Think about Keyshawn, but maybe 

1303
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,520
a little bit faster. 
Mason Taylor Rucker, it's a good

1304
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,680
blocker, good old line. 
Now you start using these assets

1305
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,560
on defense and I do think 
there's a chance in a way for 

1306
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,120
The Jets to have not a good 
offseason, but a great 

1307
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:44,280
offseason. 
And then you factor in that 

1308
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,520
they've got $75 million in free 
age of money. 

1309
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,560
There is a way for The Jets to 
get very competitive very fast. 

1310
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:51,480
I, I don't want to see shortcuts
though. 

1311
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,280
That's why I'm not interested in
that. 

1312
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,120
Hey, you waited this long, do it
the right way. 

1313
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,120
Let's go. 
And I and I think that I think 

1314
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:03,520
that Muji is is really like the 
early signs for me with MUJI are

1315
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,160
are really positive. 
I really think The Jets I know 

1316
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,160
sounds nuts. 
I really think that the The Jets

1317
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,160
nailed it with MUJI. 
I really do. 

1318
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,320
I already I already heard I 
already hit Serpico there. 

1319
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,840
So let's see. 
I want to give you a little 

1320
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,080
something on the Yankees as 
well. 

1321
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:26,120
Let's see, how about this? 
All right, we can pop this 

1322
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,080
around here. 
Mystro card. 

1323
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,560
Mystro cards ABT at the Packers 
lose on Saturday. 

1324
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,600
Do you see Lafleur being fired 
and Horbaugh maybe being an 

1325
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:34,640
option? 
Or do you think he would go 

1326
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,360
someplace else? 
Listen, I don't think that the 

1327
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,760
Green Bay situation myself is as
tenuous. 

1328
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,800
Like, I know there's talk about 
that. 

1329
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:43,480
I get it. 
We've heard it, no doubt. 

1330
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:47,440
I'm not saying it's completely 
off the table unless they look 

1331
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,920
awful, right? 
I think Lafleur maybe gets one 

1332
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,600
more year. 
I'd probably say more more yes 

1333
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,440
than no. 
I think there is a even before 

1334
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,920
the Ravens fired Harbaugh, like 
think about the last five weeks 

1335
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,680
or so, the conversations even 
going back to last year. 

1336
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:04,680
But more recently Harbaugh to me
seemed if it didn't finish well,

1337
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,480
he was gone. 
Tomlin won that game. 

1338
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,360
So he's in the playoffs. 
But if they play poorly against 

1339
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,960
the Texans, as I've said, I 
think that there's a really good

1340
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,280
chance, thank you for the text 
there, that they're going to 

1341
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:19,720
move on from him. 
And and I would think that the 

1342
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,920
floor would get one more. 
I just feel like it's a little 

1343
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,640
bit of a different timeline. 
I don't even really know if I 

1344
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,720
can substantiate that. 
Maybe because the noise is not 

1345
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:31,440
quite as loud and the signals 
are not quite as as evident. 

1346
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:36,680
I don't know. 
What's this here off? 

1347
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,000
The video of my son ripping it 
into the net in the basement was

1348
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:40,680
legit. 
Yeah, there's a lot of good 

1349
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,360
players out there. 
He's having fun, he's working 

1350
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,120
hard. 
And that's the other thing too, 

1351
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,520
that on this channel, I'm not 
going to do it now, but on this 

1352
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,120
channel, you're going to get a 
lot of youth sports content, You

1353
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,800
know, you guys know I coach. 
I'd say the jokes. 

1354
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,000
I know I got ejected. 
Relax, you know, unfairly 

1355
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:57,200
ejected. 
But I got ejected. 

1356
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,000
The appeal was denied. 
No, you know how I feel about 

1357
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,840
youth sports and I'm up to my 
neck and it with both kids and 

1358
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,040
I've seen it. 
It changed so much from when I 

1359
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,400
was young. 
The cost, the pressure, the 

1360
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:12,440
responsibility, the options, 
club travel, you know, you trip 

1361
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,960
bats, USA bats, this that go do 
you go play a national 

1362
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:18,439
Tournaments like these are 
things I've already gone through

1363
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,880
and am in the process of going 
through now. 

1364
01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:23,960
And there's already one up there
on my channel. 

1365
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,399
I think I did it. 
Yeah, I did it the night, I 

1366
01:08:26,399 --> 01:08:30,520
think I did it December 31st, 
like in the afternoon at some 

1367
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:32,920
point. 
And I just I scheduled it to air

1368
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:34,800
on New Year's Day. 
So I wasn't going live on New 

1369
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:38,399
Year's Day. 
And it was about how to prepare 

1370
01:08:38,399 --> 01:08:41,279
your child for T-ball like their
first venture into Little 

1371
01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:43,760
League. 
And it it it's not about going 

1372
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,560
out there and, you know, having 
a three hitter and a shortstop 

1373
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,120
for the get go. 
No, it's more about just 

1374
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:53,080
avoiding some of the pitfalls 
that as a first time parent, 

1375
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,840
let's face it, man, it's not 
like when we were young. 

1376
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:57,520
All right, sign them up for the 
church team. 

1377
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:01,359
All right, You know, you, you're
on this travel team that's right

1378
01:09:01,359 --> 01:09:03,920
across the a good one, but it's 
right across the street from our

1379
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:05,680
home in Marine Park playing for 
the cadets. 

1380
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,399
That's the best team around. 
Like it is such a different 

1381
01:09:08,399 --> 01:09:10,160
landscape that it's 
overwhelming. 

1382
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:14,080
And I do put a lot of that stuff
up there and hopefully you guys 

1383
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:15,359
enjoy it. 
I know it's not for everybody 

1384
01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:17,560
because not everybody's has is a
parent yet. 

1385
01:09:18,319 --> 01:09:21,439
Whatever, you know, So let's see
here. 

1386
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:26,359
Bozak Sacramento. 
I think I said that right. 

1387
01:09:26,359 --> 01:09:29,399
That is a jacked up now is that 
are you that jacked up? 

1388
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:32,120
Jeez, that is a jacked up 
looking dude. 

1389
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,240
It's a good avatar, bro. 
This is why the show's great 

1390
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,920
sports life, politics. 
Would love to hear about your 

1391
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:39,399
baseball stats throughout your 
career. 

1392
01:09:39,399 --> 01:09:40,760
No, you don't. 
You you don't you don't want to 

1393
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:42,600
hear No, I don't think anybody 
wants to hear about that. 

1394
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,720
Here's the short version. 
High school was excellent, 

1395
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,640
college disappointing. 
Always hurt, didn't get it done.

1396
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:51,880
That's the shortest version that
I could give you. 

1397
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,880
You know, I'm not going to start
ripping through my my high 

1398
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:58,040
school, although if I was to do 
one of the two, I could probably

1399
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,040
pick on the high school stats 
more so than college. 

1400
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,760
But now I was hurt a lot. 
And and that's something I've 

1401
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,400
talked a lot about. 
Like it still bothers me, you 

1402
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:09,240
know, it still bothers me. 
A very prideful person put the 

1403
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,480
work in, just didn't happen, you
know, and I think it goes into 

1404
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,840
sometimes wanting something too 
much where you could almost 

1405
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,360
squeeze too hard. 
And I think you complicate it. 

1406
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:22,360
I don't know if I did that in 
college, maybe trying to 

1407
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,400
overcome the injuries. 
I unknowingly did it. 

1408
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:28,640
But yeah, I mean, it's trust me,
you know, if I ever make the 

1409
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:30,960
Hall of Fame at Maris, it's not 
it's not for being a player. 

1410
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:34,160
It's for whatever I've done post
leaving the campus. 

1411
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,720
You know what I mean? 
Let me get this more on the 

1412
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:38,400
YouTube stuff here, blah, blah, 
blah. 

1413
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:42,600
All right, something on The Jets
here. 

1414
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,080
OK, let me let me just give you 
something. 

1415
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:46,320
Where was it? 
On the Yankees? 

1416
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,280
Really quick. 
I I can't go too much longer. 

1417
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:49,520
I got to take a shower. 
I got to shave. 

1418
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,840
I got to get out to Queens and 
I've got to sit down. 

1419
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:54,800
I've got to tape the first 
interview with the Red Storm 

1420
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:58,160
Report today with my guy Pitino,
who I will absolutely get on 

1421
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:02,160
this show very, very soon once 
I'm able to. 

1422
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,480
So maybe I shouldn't say soon. 
This is dragging on more than I 

1423
01:11:05,480 --> 01:11:09,560
thought. 
All right, so the Cabrera deal, 

1424
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,880
right? 
What? 

1425
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:16,160
What I don't get now, they gave 
up in that trade. 

1426
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:21,120
The Cubs gave up their number 1 
prospect who their overall #1 

1427
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,520
who is a top 50 prospect in all 
the baseball. 

1428
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:24,880
I'm not going to inundate you 
with that stuff. 

1429
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:28,680
Like all this damn ranking is a 
different outlets, 47 here, 52 

1430
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,880
here. 
They're just top 50 prospect. 

1431
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,160
They're #1 prospect, short 
version and somebody else who I 

1432
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:38,080
think was number 11 and another 
player who I don't know was even

1433
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:38,680
ranked. 
They gave up. 

1434
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:40,600
They gave up a lot is what I'm 
saying for Cabrera. 

1435
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:45,920
So there's some history there, 
some inconsistencies, some 

1436
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,040
issues with the with the 
injuries as well. 

1437
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,400
I was interested in Cabrera. 
I was never on the Cabrera train

1438
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,160
at any cost. 
I think that's idiotic. 

1439
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:56,120
Now the Yankees are going to 
have a very interesting 2 month 

1440
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,360
start to the season here because
they're going to be rolling out 

1441
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:01,240
Yarborough, they're going to be 
rolling out Will Warren, they're

1442
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,120
going to be rolling out Cams 
Beast. 

1443
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,640
But still Year 2 guys will make 
adjustments off him and then 

1444
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,960
he's got to do the same. 
But his stuff is top shelf, so 

1445
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:09,800
he'll be great. 
I'm not worried about him, but 

1446
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,000
he's still got to show it as a 
sophomore that that he's that 

1447
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,680
guy that we think he is, that he
was against the Red Sox in the 

1448
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,040
playoffs and many other starts 
before that. 

1449
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,760
But you're rolling out a lot of 
of course, Freed, you got Louise

1450
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,840
Hill. 
But while Cole and Roldan and 

1451
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:26,320
then eventually Schmidt deeper 
in the summer as they're working

1452
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,360
their way back to health and if 
there's no setbacks, they're 

1453
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:33,760
both going to miss two months 
ish ish. 

1454
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,880
Like that's that's a lot of 
turns through the rotation where

1455
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:40,880
you are beginning to define who 
you are in the division and the 

1456
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,280
divisions not soft. 
It's it's probably the best 

1457
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:46,400
division in baseball. 
I know the NL E is really good 

1458
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,200
as well. 
I know the the the NL West has a

1459
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:49,120
lot of time. 
I get that. 

1460
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:51,960
But I think top to bottom, I 
think the most competitive right

1461
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:53,920
now division of baseball is the 
American League East. 

1462
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:57,440
So, you know, that does not 
necessarily entitle the Yankees 

1463
01:12:57,440 --> 01:13:01,160
to just waltzing through the 
start in a snooze in a slumber 

1464
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,880
as guys get healthy, and 
especially now without any 

1465
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:05,480
upgrades. 
And we'll see about Bellinger 

1466
01:13:05,480 --> 01:13:07,480
and whatever else they might do,
but shit, whatever. 

1467
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,960
And when I can't wait for that 
stuff to break, like I'm waiting

1468
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:12,480
on that. 
Like I'm waiting for the Yanks 

1469
01:13:12,480 --> 01:13:14,320
to do something. 
I'm waiting for the Mets to do 

1470
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,680
something. 
Those shows going to be 

1471
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:20,320
phenomenal. 
But the Cabrera stuff, This is 

1472
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,560
why I'm bothered by the MI 
stuff. 

1473
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:25,360
Well, what does MI have to do 
with Cabrera? 

1474
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:27,880
I'm going to tell you the 
Yankees had a chat. 

1475
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,400
I don't know how good a Mai is. 
Everybody says he's not 

1476
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,680
Yamamoto. 
All right, he's probably not. 

1477
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,960
Very few are. 
We read the scouting reports. 

1478
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:36,960
He throws this hard. 
Here's his K rate here. 

1479
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:38,920
We all know the numbers if you 
dive into the advanced stuff, 

1480
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:41,640
right, But we don't know how 
he's going to be at the at the 

1481
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:42,960
Major League level. 
We don't know that. 

1482
01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:45,800
But don't you think that that's 
a risk worth taking? 

1483
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,760
Like they need another starter 
if they don't get and and I 

1484
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,040
think that they will Perolta, 
whatever. 

1485
01:13:52,480 --> 01:13:55,480
But if they don't get another 
starter, you can't tell me that 

1486
01:13:55,480 --> 01:13:57,840
it's not on the table where the 
Yankees are. 

1487
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,000
Well, it's 12 and 15. 
You know, they get off to a 

1488
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,760
middling start and you're 
playing uphill the rest of the 

1489
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,560
season. 
And then when the when the guys 

1490
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:08,240
come back, you better hope that 
there's not a #1A set back, as I

1491
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:13,440
said, but also a, you know, a 
period where where they're 

1492
01:14:13,440 --> 01:14:15,920
transitioning back to what their
baseball cards say. 

1493
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:21,080
More so Cole than than Rodan. 
And as that's happening, the 

1494
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:24,960
Yankees had a chance to bring 
somebody in that was very valued

1495
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,760
around baseball, that was gotten
at a very team friendly deal. 

1496
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,200
And all it would have cost was 
money. 

1497
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:35,320
So if the reluctance is and I'm 
I wouldn't give up Lombard for 

1498
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,160
Cabrera, There's no way I'm 
doing that. 

1499
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:40,360
You want Spencer Jones? 
All right, maybe I'll have that.

1500
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,520
Yeah. 
You know, I I think Dominguez is

1501
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,120
probably more viable than Ben 
Jones. 

1502
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:47,800
He just strikes out a ton. 
I don't know how that's going to

1503
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,800
change and and rectify itself 
against better pitching when you

1504
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,600
strike out twice a game of the 
Miners like that's that's 

1505
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,320
problematic. 
I know he's got the size. 

1506
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,200
I know he's got the speed. 
I know he's a good center 

1507
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,680
fielder, much better than 
Dominguez, a better outfielder. 

1508
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:03,760
You know, I know he's light 
tower power bombs, missiles, 450

1509
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,560
feet, you know, beautiful Yankee
Stadium swing. 

1510
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,960
He's going to strike out 237 
times if he plays a whole year. 

1511
01:15:10,440 --> 01:15:12,200
Damn it. 
I I would have to ask why 

1512
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,920
wouldn't we think that he would 
when everything that he's put on

1513
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:18,640
film and statistically he's a 
minor leaguer says that he is an

1514
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:22,160
incredibly high volume north of 
30% strikeout guy. 

1515
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,800
Like that's a troll. 
Like I think of the majors, it's

1516
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:30,680
going to be closer to 40% 
without a real real overhaul to 

1517
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:32,920
approach or tweaking mechanics, 
whatever it might be. 

1518
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:36,280
So I would be more willing to 
give him up, even though he's a 

1519
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:38,040
better fielder than than 
Dominguez, because at least 

1520
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:42,160
Dominguez has shown hit 260 last
year, 20 steals, 910 home runs. 

1521
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:45,480
I, I, I think there's something 
there with Dominguez, but they 

1522
01:15:45,480 --> 01:15:47,720
could have bought a my plugged 
him in. 

1523
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,120
And like, this is one thing 
that's driving me nuts. 

1524
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:51,800
And I got to wrap it up after 
this guy really do have to 

1525
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:55,200
shower and get out to Queens. 
I, I don't understand why the 

1526
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:59,240
Yankees and the Mets, by the 
way, are both so behind the 

1527
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,480
curve of structuring these 
modern contracts. 

1528
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:06,440
Like, what the hell is so hard 
about deferring money? 

1529
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:12,080
Like how do the Astros get a my 
for what they got him for with 

1530
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,200
opt outs? 
Like that would have been so 

1531
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:17,280
appealing more for the Yankees, 
I think, but even for the Mets, 

1532
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:19,840
really appealing for the Yankees
in this regard. 

1533
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,560
OK, am I you know, what did he 
get 60? 

1534
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:24,160
Whatever, I don't know whatever 
the total number was. 

1535
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:25,880
I forget the number, but I know 
it was three years with opt 

1536
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,960
outs, right? 
So and it's his opt outs, opt 

1537
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,920
out after one opt out after 2. 
So let me get this straight. 

1538
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:35,640
Yankees give am I the same deal?
And maybe he wasn't amenable to 

1539
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,240
that with the Yankees. 
I I don't know. 

1540
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:38,400
Maybe they want to come to the 
Yankees. 

1541
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,360
I don't know. 
But I also don't believe that 

1542
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:43,320
that kind of contract was 
presented to am I at all like I 

1543
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,640
feel pretty good saying that. 
So if it was presented and he 

1544
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,720
did bite and he comes here with 
the ability to opt out after 

1545
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:53,080
one, well, guess what? 
If he has a great season, guess 

1546
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,240
who wins? 
You win because then he's going 

1547
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:56,960
to opt out. 
He's going to give you and I'm 

1548
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,800
going to I mean, I'll just 
throw, I'll throw numbers at 

1549
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:02,840
you. 
Let's say he would have gone or 

1550
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,240
goes. 
I mean, I'm going to go crazy 

1551
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:14,920
here, You know, 15 and 9 with a 
3.180 RA whip is good. 

1552
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:19,440
Walk rates fairly low, K rates 
good, durable, make like a 

1553
01:17:19,440 --> 01:17:21,480
Goodyear like a really good 
season. 

1554
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,240
He's opting out and then he opts
out and you're free. 

1555
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,760
Now you can re engage him if you
want, but you have solved the 

1556
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:31,640
absence for the first two months
on a larger level without giving

1557
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,960
out a prospect. 
Like that's what I didn't get. 

1558
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:39,320
And those are the little things 
about the way the lack of modern

1559
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:43,720
approach with some of these 
things is incredibly 

1560
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:47,800
frustrating. 
I don't get it like I I do 

1561
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:50,800
understand not wanting to give 
up a top prospect. 

1562
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,960
That is a bit of a wild card. 
All right, the Cubs roll the 

1563
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:55,800
dice. 
They gave up their top guy top 

1564
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:57,520
50 in baseball. 
That's the Cubs. 

1565
01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:59,480
I mean, Cubs don't win anything.
Let I'm not saying the Cubs are 

1566
01:17:59,480 --> 01:18:02,680
well run, you know, in, in in 
terms of the Cabrera trade, but 

1567
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:07,320
man, they could have had a my 
not give up a prospect and then 

1568
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:12,000
the incentive on a my Zen to 
have an amazing season is there 

1569
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,600
because he wants to stop down 
get 30-40 fifty 60-70 more 

1570
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:20,640
$1,000,000 after he opts out. 
I, you know, I I I I just I did 

1571
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:25,280
not understand that. 
So one of the things that 

1572
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,600
bothers me, one of the things 
that's got to be addressed here 

1573
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,920
and one of the things that will 
continue follow on the show BT 

1574
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:31,760
unleashed here. 
All right, let me start right. 

1575
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:35,720
Maybe I got one more comment. 
One more comment. 

1576
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:39,200
Yeah, they did get a hold for 
for the Clippers for Cabrera. 

1577
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:43,800
I totally agree. 
You know, let me hit this one 

1578
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:47,760
up, Kyle. 
My son isn't into sports as I 

1579
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,320
wish he'd be. 
Trying not to force it. 

1580
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:55,000
Yeah, I mean, that's tricky. 
As I spoke on the the Pot about,

1581
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:56,760
you know, getting your little 
one ready for Little League, 

1582
01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:00,160
T-ball or softball. 
You know, my kids are totally 

1583
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:04,320
different, you know, and you 
know, I'm working on. 

1584
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,840
He's still young, like, and it's
a good thing, but it's also 

1585
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:08,560
something that he has had to 
work on. 

1586
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,400
Like they treats every game like
it's game seven of the World 

1587
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,720
Series, even less two nights 
ago, playing a basketball game, 

1588
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,400
like the ref missed a call and, 
and the ref definitely missed 

1589
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:19,280
the call, but he was fired up. 
Now I, I will take that 

1590
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:22,520
intensity and that passion for 
playing hard and, and the 

1591
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,120
aptitude because if you don't 
have that like you, you can't 

1592
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:28,160
give that to somebody. 
I believe it's easier to, you 

1593
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:31,440
know, smooth somebody out and, 
and that's one of the, you know,

1594
01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:35,160
one of the things that my wife 
and I are doing rather than 

1595
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,400
trying to coerce it out of some.
Like if you're not naturally 

1596
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:41,000
funny or naturally engaging or 
naturally conversational, you're

1597
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,640
a little bit more withdrawn. 
I'm just talking to general now.

1598
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,240
You're not going to suddenly be 
the guy who, you know, in the 

1599
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,840
middle of the party is like he's
up on stage cracking 1 liners 

1600
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:50,160
the life of the party. 
That's just not you. 

1601
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,360
You're going to be, you know, 
more to yourself and maybe 

1602
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:56,040
engaged in a little group. 
But we all know that guy. 

1603
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:58,720
And a lot of times I was that 
guy, you know, that guy in high 

1604
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:00,600
school, that guy in college, 
that girl in high school, that 

1605
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:02,320
girl in College, in the middle 
of everything, right? 

1606
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:06,000
So if you're not predisposed to 
be that way from a personality 

1607
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,040
trait, you're not going to be 
that way the the sport. 

1608
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:10,400
And my daughter's very different
than that. 

1609
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,320
Like she plays hard. 
But hey, you want to go down, 

1610
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,400
hit some balls. 
I don't know, you want to go 

1611
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,480
down. 
She let him let's dribble, you 

1612
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:18,520
know, and I and I don't force 
it, right? 

1613
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:21,720
She just says I love the games. 
All right, She's 9. 

1614
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:23,320
So I'm not going to I'm not 
going to go nuts here. 

1615
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:26,160
But if you want to, I'm saying 
it myself, if you want to keep 

1616
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:28,600
playing in games as you get 
older, you know, games of 

1617
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,040
relevance, eventually this model
is going to have to shift a 

1618
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,680
little bit where you might not 
love practicing, but you 

1619
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:35,080
understand the importance right 
now. 

1620
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:36,680
She's not there yet. 
Whatever. 

1621
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:42,800
But I would say for that, Kyle, 
man, I, I, that's a tricky one. 

1622
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:46,240
I would say that I think the 
hardest thing or the worst route

1623
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:51,720
to take, right, would be to, you
know, just throw the bat in 

1624
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:54,960
their hands or go to the park 
and shoot hoops and and drill 

1625
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:56,960
them. 
Like that's, that is not if they

1626
01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:01,080
don't have a if, like there's 
not a a natural interest of them

1627
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:06,280
wanting to play and having fun, 
then I don't, I mean, I'm not a 

1628
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:07,640
psychologist. 
I'm going to tell you what I'm 

1629
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,520
going through and what I went 
through myself and and whatever 

1630
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:12,600
and some of the kids I coach. 
I don't, I don't know if there's

1631
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,080
a perfect answer for that. 
I think the easy thing would be 

1632
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:18,920
to say keep it fun, right? 
But I, I think the way you get 

1633
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:20,760
into that to maybe spark that 
interest. 

1634
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:22,560
I don't know the age. 
I really do wish I knew the age.

1635
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:25,160
Like if the child's six or 
seven, that's different. 

1636
01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:27,760
If the child's 11 or 12, that's 
really different. 

1637
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,280
Because there is, as much as I 
hate this, there is an 

1638
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:33,440
expiration point earlier than 
it's ever been with young 

1639
01:21:33,440 --> 01:21:38,520
athletes getting out there and 
immersing themselves in their 

1640
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:40,880
sport. 
And now they're specialization 

1641
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:42,160
and all, which I don't really 
agree with. 

1642
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:43,800
And all those other things I'll 
talk about on the pod. 

1643
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:47,920
I would say whatever your 
favorite team is, let's say 

1644
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:52,040
you're a big Yankees fan or big 
Nick guy, sit down and make it 

1645
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,840
fun and watch the game and talk 
about the game a little bit. 

1646
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:58,280
You know, maybe have him pretend
he's the play by play announcer.

1647
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:02,720
I, I don't know, there is one 
thing and I'll definitely leave 

1648
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:04,360
you with this. 
This is definitely in the other 

1649
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:05,880
pod. 
But since a few of you have 

1650
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,760
popped up some of this these 
questions, I'll give you this 

1651
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,320
here. 
So I was right there in COVID. 

1652
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,160
So he was like 4 year right 
before he was like 4. 

1653
01:22:12,480 --> 01:22:15,520
I would go in the yard, right? 
Like to me that the greatest 

1654
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:19,480
urgency is to create urgency 
within a young athlete. 

1655
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,680
And I don't mean, Oh God, I got 
to be the I'm not talking about 

1656
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:24,840
I got to be the best. 
I mean the urgency to run with 

1657
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:28,440
vigor, to chase a ball, to run 
hard. 

1658
01:22:28,440 --> 01:22:31,640
Like those are the that's the 
first entry into being a young 

1659
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:34,160
athlete. 
And I think 1 fun and I did this

1660
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,440
and it was fun. 
Man, I miss these days. 

1661
01:22:36,440 --> 01:22:40,160
God, I would go in the yard and 
and I didn't even like have this

1662
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:45,440
name of a game or necessarily 
even this intention, but it just

1663
01:22:45,440 --> 01:22:47,600
hit me and it morphed into 
something fun and something 

1664
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:48,320
good. 
It's helped them. 

1665
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:52,000
I developed this game called the
seven second game and we would 

1666
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:55,000
be on one end of my yard and I'd
have a wiffle ball bat and I'd 

1667
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,000
have a wiffle ball like a bunch 
of wiffle balls, right, Because 

1668
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:58,920
we're hitting out there. 
Whatever, I must play a game. 

1669
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:00,920
Come on. 
And I would, and I would hit the

1670
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,320
ball and he'd have his glove on 
and I would hit it to the other 

1671
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:05,760
side of the yard, sometimes try 
to wrap it around the house. 

1672
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:10,400
And I would literally countdown 
12 three. 

1673
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:14,640
And I would give him a 7 second,
maybe even start a 10 second 

1674
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:16,040
game. 
And then I'd cut it down to 

1675
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:17,440
seven. 
Of course, you got to keep 

1676
01:23:17,440 --> 01:23:19,680
pushing it. 
Eventually we got to the 55 

1677
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:23,720
second game and within my count,
which is obviously I have a loud

1678
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:25,160
voice, the whole neighbor could 
probably hear it. 

1679
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:29,080
He's running after the ball with
an urgency because now he knows 

1680
01:23:29,480 --> 01:23:31,360
all right, I'm, I'm running 
after the ball and I'm, I'm 

1681
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:34,080
running after it within a 
required amount of time and I'm 

1682
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:35,640
having fun doing it. 
And early. 

1683
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:38,600
And I, he got most he got, he 
got most of them very early, you

1684
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,080
know, from the get go. 
But there was some like if Rick,

1685
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:44,680
if it ricocheted off a fence or 
a house or or whatever, a tree, 

1686
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:48,560
I would then say if I was 
getting to 7 or 10 and he hadn't

1687
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:53,560
gotten the ball yet and I didn't
think he would, I would say 566 

1688
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:57,360
and 1/2. 6 is like I would, I 
would make it fun and then he 

1689
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:58,960
would get the ball in the run 
back. 

1690
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:02,720
I don't know if that's perfect. 
But what I do know is that when 

1691
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:05,000
Tebow and I was obviously doing 
some other stuff as a former 

1692
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:09,440
player with him, but as as he 
got to the T-ball field, guess 

1693
01:24:09,440 --> 01:24:12,000
who is ready to run after every 
ball, even if it was on the 

1694
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:13,760
other side of the diamond, He 
was. 

1695
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:16,880
So I think if you start with 
just having fun and, and making 

1696
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:21,480
it a game and tapping into their
competitiveness without going 

1697
01:24:21,480 --> 01:24:24,880
over the top, you know, and, and
by the way, that in itself is a 

1698
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:28,000
is a tough struggle. 
You know, you know, I've had 

1699
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:29,760
moments where I'm like, that's 
too much. 

1700
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:33,560
I've seen other friends and 
other young players that 

1701
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:36,840
specifically my son plays with 
that, you know, their parents 

1702
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:38,000
have made mistakes that I've 
made. 

1703
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:42,240
You know, it, it is what it is. 
There's no road map to doing it 

1704
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:44,880
the right way and so nobody's 
perfect. 

1705
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:46,720
I don't know if that's the 
perfect answer only because I 

1706
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,960
don't think that there is one. 
But short version, start with 

1707
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:53,560
fun, get the urgency going and, 
and, and just start there. 

1708
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:55,160
All right, I got to run. 
I got to shower, I got to get 

1709
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:58,640
out the Queens. 
I will upload the the Red Storm 

1710
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:00,000
report on the YouTube page as 
well. 

1711
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,200
It airs every Friday and 
Saturday on MSG. 

1712
01:25:02,480 --> 01:25:04,880
So I don't know if you guys are 
going to be able to see it If 

1713
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:06,880
you don't have MSG or you don't 
have the app, whatever it might 

1714
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:08,760
be, I will upload them to 
YouTube. 

1715
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:11,160
Hopefully. 
I'm not going to I'm not going 

1716
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:12,360
to front. 
I don't know. 

1717
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:14,880
I'm not going to sit here and 
say, Oh yeah, the YouTube stream

1718
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,000
will be fixed by tomorrow. 
I honestly don't know the answer

1719
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,280
to that. 
I hope that it will be In the 

1720
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:22,240
meantime, go to the youth, go to
the go to the page at BT 

1721
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:24,560
unleashed comments like it 
spread the word. 

1722
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:27,720
Please subscribe. 
The more you guys do, the more I

1723
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,880
can do the more traction we get,
the more I can build it out and 

1724
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:34,120
the more we can turn this into 
what I am on a mission to turn 

1725
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:36,880
this into. 
So let's see what the Giants do 

1726
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:38,480
with it with it. 
And this is obviously not the 

1727
01:25:38,480 --> 01:25:40,960
end of the conversation with 
Harbaugh, but let's really see 

1728
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:44,040
how they handle this. 
Let's see now Harbaugh Miami how

1729
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:46,320
that factors in. 
And it's going to on some level 

1730
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:49,320
you can bet on that, even if 
it's just on a cursory level. 

1731
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:52,080
Good job by the Knicks last 
night punching, punching back 

1732
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:55,280
and showing a little bit of 
pride in some some fight and 

1733
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:57,400
ending that four-game skit 
against a team that was hot and 

1734
01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:00,160
has some talent. 
And then obviously the the am I 

1735
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:04,040
more so more about am I than the
Cabrera situation with the 

1736
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:05,520
Yankees. 
They reluctance to just spend 

1737
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,920
money and circumvent giving up 
prospects, which they did not do

1738
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,680
and I don't know why. 
So have a great rest of your 

1739
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:13,640
Thursday tomorrow. 
We'll get into all the football 

1740
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:16,040
games as well, all the games 
over the weekend, the wild card 

1741
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:17,600
stuff. 
I'll make the picks. 

1742
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:19,360
You'll know. 
You know, there'll be something 

1743
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:20,880
else with the Giants at some 
point here. 

1744
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:23,440
Maybe something breaks with the 
Yanks and the Mets. 

1745
01:26:23,440 --> 01:26:25,560
And in the meantime, have a 
great day. 

1746
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:27,280
I appreciate you guys. 
You know I do. 

1747
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:31,000
I really appreciate you and I 
will see you tomorrow live at 

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See ya.

