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Hello everybody. 

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What's happening? 
BT unleashed on a Friday. 

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It is a no rules Friday. 
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that there's really not many 
rules on the show anyway, but 

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what's going on? 
Got a big show for you. 

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Got a big weekend coming up a 
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the baseball season, closer to 
March Madness. 

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All right, so before we jump in 
there, I guess we've got 

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something new today that J Rod 
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and and what is it unleashed 
comments of the week there, J 

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Rod? 
Yeah, you. 

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Know I just I wanted to go 
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find the stuff that I honestly, 
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just because like like while I'm
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even some of the live chats, 
I'll just like screenshot them 

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while I'm watching just because 
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Some of them. 
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I compiled 4 of the comments I 
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this week. 
Just did a quick peruse through 

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this morning and then Hello, 
Gander. 

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Exactly. 
The next week we'll have a, you 

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know, we'll have a more fleshed 
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We'll, we'll really have a a 
teen eye on everything. 

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I like it. 
So a little digital window shop.

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It is what you're saying, right?
You're doing a little perusing. 

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OK, so good. 
So J Rod will pop that in a bit.

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Obviously it's a Friday. 
As I said, no rules Friday. 

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And every Friday, I've got to 
get a sense of of what Mr. J 

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Rod's weekend's going to entail 
as as I live a little 

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vicariously through him. 
Although I got, I got to be 

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honest with you, I don't know, 
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When I was in my early 20s, my, 
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whole hell of a lot more 
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bringing to the table so far. 
I mean, come on, man. 

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Yeah, I'm going. 
On step it up. 

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Yeah, I mean. 
I I listen to a rave to make up 

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for it or something like that. 
You know, I never went to a 

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rave. 
That's what I was never. 

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Into no it's name. 
Nah, man, that that wasn't. 

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I was more of a bar guy growing 
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Like, I wanted to be able to 
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Like, I'm not saying I never 
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with the music, you know, wacky 
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necessarily a rave, per SE. 
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But you know, listen, the BT in 
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interesting dude. 
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than my Guy J Rod. 
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housekeeping notes here before 
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Coming up on Monday. 
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The timing is going to be 
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St. 
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will join us here on Unleash. 
That's right, Rick in the house.

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The architect. 
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the savior. 
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of a brand that was once 
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obscurity and really oblivion. 
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Listen, the thing about Rick, he
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what he's going to say at this 
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He says things, whatever comes 
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it's a press conference, whether
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report. 
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Monday at 2:00. 
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it looks like Donnie's going to 
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as well. 
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get that down, Jay. 
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it's hysteric. 
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for a SEC and then I want to let
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some more content that's going 
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So every it's either a Wednesday
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Friday and Saturday on MSG. 
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I've done it for probably 15 or 
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basically every single St. 
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Lavin Norm before that, of 
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now Mullen said whatever he 
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wouldn't divulge a whole lot and
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about recruiting budgets, 
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go to into the weeds on that. 
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and you, you, you have to be in 
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they make it look really nice. 
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presentation. 
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multiple PR people, multiple 
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production, the filming and all 
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will just start saying stuff 
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something about, about maybe the
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the school didn't know how to do
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where the school was and it it's
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because he's incredibly candid. 
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College basketball. 
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debatable. 
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whatever. 
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on on leash. 
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The other thing, I'm going to 
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want to jump into the show. 
So this is coming up on Sunday. 

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My all time Big East team. 
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and it was not easy to get this 
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J Rod, get the graphic up there.
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popping up there. 
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Where's the biggies graphic? 
J Ry here he is. 

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Maybe he maybe he felt the 
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He's making different plans for 
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He's like BT's calling me out 
for my boring Friday nights. 

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Maybe he's doing something 
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Little slow on that. 
J Rod. 

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So that's going to be that and 
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So I'm going to have my starting
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I'm going to fill it out with 
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And I even told you yesterday or
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a, a list of 10 honorable 
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So it is all-encompassing from 
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back in 79 up until modern day. 
I can't wait to drop it. 

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And obviously it's going to 
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Big East tournament, which is 
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of the year. 
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on this a little bit like when 
you can get it down, Jay. 

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Thanks, buddy. 
That's going to drop on Sunday. 

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When you ask me, and I've been 
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know, hey, what's your favorite 
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What's your favorite sport to 
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What's your favorite sport to 
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What's your favorite sport to 
watch all that stuff. 

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And and really an extension of 
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What is your favorite season of 
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sporting calendar? 
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mean this, right, I always say 
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now, you know, couple of days 
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when you get to the Big East 
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represents so much for me, the 
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And I loved it as a kid, never 
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a, like a lunatic. 
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doing Big East tournaments now 
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So the energy in the building is
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And all the other fan bases 
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packed. 
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parked my car and I walked to 
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away. 
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there's Creighton fans, there's 
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obviously St. 
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Marys. 
I mean, they already. 

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And it just has such a, a 
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know, even in it's heyday, like 
with Coach K and Duke, nothing 

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touches the Big East tournament.
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is obviously the energy itself 
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But to me, it's a runway to all 
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change, baseball's around the 
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We got the Masters coming up in 
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the NFL draft and we can do a 
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here on the show, obviously on 
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And and that generally is my 
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So what's your favorite time of 
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It's pretty much now I will say 
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September and certainly October 
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that The Jets and the Giants are
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postseason, the World Series, 
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It's awesome. 
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So all is good. 
Business is good. 

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You guys have been great. 
Let's get to the show now. 

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So I don't know if you guys 
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It was kind of a smaller story 
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there amongst some other stuff, 
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digs move or some NFL trades or 
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whatever it might be, right? 
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reality of these knucklehead 
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I mean, I, I would I would go 
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But like I've always said, I 
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bombs gratuitously on the show. 
I'm I'm going to, I'm going to 

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save it for when it's really 
with merit, whether it's to 

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punctuate the story that's funny
or when I'm legitimately pissed.

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The NCAA has driven me nuts 
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They are a bunch of adults. 
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their job and they've been bad 
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Quick Side Story. 
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think it was 2003, 2003, 2004 
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doing St. 
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J Rod, you're going to love this
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grad, as a big Big East fan, as 
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So anyway, St. 
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it was like a early non 
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John's got drilled. 
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That was Jarvis got fired like 2
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John's was 6 and 24. 
My that was my first year my so 

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you better believe I appreciate 
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Anyway, I'm having a 
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Georgia Tech people before the 
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I I forget their names. 
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conversation I had and they were
talking and they were presenting

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to me what they thought was 
going to be this seismic shift 

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in in college sports. 
And they're telling me how 

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again, this is 2003 is a long 
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And they're telling me how the 
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going to change and everything's
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money. 
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broadcaster, I'm like, there's 
no way they're going to mess 

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with with this perfect 
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We get what we're good. 
You know, you can't touch the 

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college basketball. 
There's no way that they're 

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going to sacrifice like the Big 
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satisfy certain teams economic 
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and some other teams for 
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And I just wasn't hearing it. 
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I didn't buy it. 
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I didn't want to buy it. 
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pragmatic. 
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no way, there's no way they're 
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So that's when the seed for me 
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That all right, even though I 
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deeper into it and then here we 
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I mean, you've got you've got 
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The PAC 12 has been dissolved. 
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for a living. 
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I had to nail like 85%, maybe I 
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even some of the big teams, like
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Like I just, I don't care. 
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everything was going on, I 
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it because I was so dissatisfied
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sports. 
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separate, the transfer portal 
separate. 

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I, I do think that the portal's 
a big problem. 

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I, I, I would like to see some 
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implemented where, yeah, you can
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transfer, but when you get X 
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to at least commit two years to 
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leaves, right? 
It's just too volatile. 

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I don't even know all the 
rosters. 

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Like there was a point where 
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Garden for a Big East game, St. 
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John's against Syracuse, you 
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the conference, I knew every 
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opposing teams, at least their 
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ninth. 
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walk ONS, but even me doing this
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I don't, I don't know all these 
players. 

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I've got to write them down. 
I've got to do research and, and

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it's fine. 
It's part of the job. 

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It's all good. 
I'm not complaining, but college

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sports has largely become 
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It really has. 
I mean, and I'm not here to shit

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all over it because nobody wants
to really hear that. 

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It's it's there if you want it. 
There's elements I still love. 

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There's elements that I 
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And I think it's only going to 
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But the one thing that they 
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can't touch, that they can't 
change, which these idiots are 

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about to change and touch is the
NCAA tournament, the NCAA March 

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Madness. 
You know, Dickie V Serendipity, 

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baby, that you know, Selection 
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following websites for those 
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on the bubble that, you know, 
their resume that you truly care

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about. 
Well, let's get this graphic up 

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there. 
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show you some of the the 
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tournament. 
Then I want to say what they're 

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actually cooking up and what 
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which is absolutely, we are 
right there. 

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J Rod. 
Yeah, we're all right. 

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Which are you talking to? 
Mike K Which one? 

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I just shefsky then I sent you 
the Maybe I did. 

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Maybe that's all. 
I didn't send it to you. 

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OK, that's that's my fault. 
Well, I've got it written down 

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anyway. 
So you go back to the NCAA 

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tournament, right, So you got to
be able to own it when you make 

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a mistake. 
Some people who do what I do for

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a living, we try to pass the 
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rising star J Rod and you know 
he'd probably take one for the 

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team because he's a good guy. 
That's not what we do here. 

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Only on on unleashed. 
When I mess up, I would say that

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I mess up. 
I honestly thought that I say it

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sucks because the graphic is so 
good. 

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Well, I got to double check here
because not that I don't believe

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you all. 
I got it now I got to go to my 

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phone. 
Let me go to J Rod here. 

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All right, I sent them. 
I sent them the coach K Cut. 

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I sent him the Patino thing. 
I sent him the Shack top ten, 

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which we'll do it a little bit. 
I did not send it to you. 

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That is my fault. 
So anyway, the NCAA tournament 

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started back in 1939 back in the
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championship. 
Whatever. 

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Now really I certain snapshots 
like NC State coach Valvano, 

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that was what, 8283? 
I don't really remember watching

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that. 
I was a little bit too young. 

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back in 85 and there were three 
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John's, Villanova with Rollie 
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Patrick doing Georgetown and 
Memphis State was the other one 

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with Keith Lee. 
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right? 
So in 85, that's when it 

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expanded to 64 teams, which is 
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when they expanded to 68. 
Now I want to go back to 1975 

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for a minute. 
That's when the at large bids 

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were awarded, meaning it wasn't 
just conference winners. 

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They had whatever back then, 
whatever mathematical. 

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I mean, it was probably guys 
just doing favors for each 

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other. 
Oh, you're on the committee. 

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All right, let's put this team 
in because the the, the like now

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you can legitimately prove or 
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an analytical perspective, 
whether it's net ranking and 

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other other, you know, advanced 
numbers that this team got 

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screwed, this team didn't 
whatever. 

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But in 75, that's when the at 
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And it's crazy because, and I 
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was just too young before 85, 
right? 

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The the pool of teams that were 
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it varied from as few as eight 
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1984, you know, way, way before 
that, to 53, depending upon 

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whatever, you know, they used. 
OK, now the latest proposal 

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here. 
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generally a proposal is 
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debate and you know, you're 
going to hear it out and there's

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a chance it might pass. 
There's a chance it might get 

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shot down. 
I'm telling you right now, there

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is no doubt that the NCAA 
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There's no question about it. 
And right now the the only thing

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that that I really believe that 
they're debating, is it going to

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be 72 teams or is it going to be
7016? 

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So and it's going to happen, I 
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year. 
So I think in a lot of ways this

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will be the even though it was, 
you know, expanded with it the 

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first four like that. 
I'm come on the 1st 4. 

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What are we doing? 
I and I've been to Dayton, OH, 

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St. 
John's played one of the first 

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four there back in the day. 
And it's, it's really a cool 

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venue. 
It's a great, it's a great 

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arena. 
You really feel like you're 

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walking into the 50s and the 60s
and the really, a lot of 

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history. 
I really enjoyed it. 

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But the first four and I'm and 
I'm happy for these young men 

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that get that get to go. 
But do you really need the 1st 

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4? 
You really don't. 

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Anyway, this is going to happen,
I believe next year. 

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OK, so again, these idiots are 
proposing an expansion now and 

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I'm going to get to Coach K. 
Not yet, but Coach K has been on

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the record as as vehemently 
opposing this, and he's 100% 

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right. 
Here's what I don't get. 

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If you're going to expand the 
NCAA tournament, what you're 

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doing, and they're going to, 
you're just further invalidating

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the regular season. 
Does anybody care about the NCAA

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basketball regular season the 
way you once did? 

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Nobody cares. 
And again, I'm connected to the 

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Big East. 
I love St. 

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John's. 
I've done it for a long time. 

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If I see Duke or a Houston or 
even a UNC or Florida or some of

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these other, you know, I'll 
always watch. 

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You know, Tom Izzo, if I pass 
through, the game is on. 

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I love Izzy over at Michigan 
State, you know, some of these 

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other Arizona, a couple of 
powers out West. 

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If Gonzaga is on, they're not 
quite what they were, but I've 

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got a lot of respect for Mark 
Few. 

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There's certain teams. 
I'm not saying I watch the whole

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game, but if I'm buzzing through
channels because I love college 

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basketball, I'll stick with the 
game for a little bit. 

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I'll watch it. 
But here's here's here's the 

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idiocy of this. 
This is why it's so stupid. 

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So really what they're thinking 
about doing and why they're 

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doing this, it's obviously a 
money grab. 

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Clearly more teams equals more 
games. 

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That's the that's the basic 
answer, which bothers me 

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inherently because now greed 
continues to win out. 

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But think about this. 
I went and I looked on Leonardi.

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He's really good. 
It's not always right, but his 

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percentage is pretty money, 
right? 

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And Leonardi's first 4 out right
now, Auburn, San Diego State, 

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the VCU and Virginia Tech. 
Has anybody in the chat watching

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live, watching this later when 
it's out there and you just 

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watch the replay on YouTube? 
Has anybody, unless you're a 

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graduate or fan of Auburn, San 
Diego State, VCU or Virginia 

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Tech or you went to the school 
that played them, Has anybody 

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played it? 
Seen the second of those games? 

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The only one I saw was Auburn 
because they played St. 

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John's this year. 
And then you get to the and this

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is problematic because then you 
get to the next 4 out. 

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Now if we're in 2027 instead of 
2026, well, Auburn, the Aztecs, 

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BCU, Virginia Tech, they're in, 
but so too would be the next 4 

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out as per Lonardi, USC, Cal, 
West Virginia and Cincinnati. 

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Now I went back and I looked at 
US CS resume USC right now and I

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know it's a good conference and 
I know Michigan's tremendous and

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they've got is very top heavy, 
right? 

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But right now USC is 11th, 11th 
in the Big 10 standings. 

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So next year, if this were next 
year, you're going to have a 

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team that has had all of 
baseball, the end of October, 

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all the NN December, January, 
February and early into March to

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distinguish themselves as a team
that earns it, that deserves a 

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bid and a place in the field of 
now 68. 

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You're going to make a case for 
this team to get their ticket 

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punched. 
Why? 

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Who the hell wants to see USC 
play? 

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Unless you went to USC. 
It's ridiculous. 

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There's 7 and 12 in the 
conference. 

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As I said, they're they're their
and and their net ranking and 

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which matters. 
And I'm not going to bore you 

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really, if you're if you're into
it, you're into it and you know 

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about it. 
But if not, just take understand

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this like the net ranking really
does matter. 

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It's basically hybrid of a of a 
ton of, of different analytics 

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and numbers. 
And then they put it in a 

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blender, they come up with a 
number and basically if you're 

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below a certain line of 
demarcation, you're deemed 

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historically, you know, not 
worthy of an NCAA bid. 

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And they obviously use that for 
seating purposes as well. 

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Right now, USC is 68. 
In the net ranking. 

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So if this were next year 
instead of 2026, we would have a

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team that's basically touching 
70, which stinks as a net 

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ranking and is in eleven place 
in a power conference and is 7 

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and 12 in that conference, and 
that team's going dancing. 

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What in the world are you doing?
You're stripping away at the one

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thing that no matter how messed 
up we get as a sporting world, 

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it's almost the easiest thing 
not to mess up. 

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Everybody's got their brackets, 
everybody's going to get bet 

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money on all these games. 
Everybody's going to watch 

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Selection Sunday. 
Who gives a damn about this? 

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And, and I remember doing this 
for a while when I was on 1050 

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back in the day, I did a lot of 
weekend shows, right. 

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And it's like before Stephen A 
when I first started there, so 

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like O3O4 and I would get on the
air, do Saturday, Sunday, do 

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some stuff during the week as 
well. 

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And I get on Sunday of Selection
Sunday. 

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And I did, I think I was on for 
like 1010 to 1, something like 

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that. 
And I would do all this 

445
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:12,560
ridiculous diligent work on on 
bubble teams and then, you know,

446
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,480
whatever. 
And then like when I come in on 

447
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,560
Monday, all this team got 
chanted, this team got screwed. 

448
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,920
This team got screwed. 
After a while, I'm sitting there

449
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,160
saying, what are you doing 
wasting anybody's time, let 

450
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,120
alone yours? 
Why, why, Why in the world 

451
00:21:26,120 --> 00:21:31,200
outside of money are we going to
just lift up the velvet rope for

452
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:36,080
one of the best traditions, if 
not the number one tradition in 

453
00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:41,880
all of sport pro and or college 
combined and expanded and water 

454
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,760
it down and further homogenize 
it and weaken it just to make 

455
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,360
money die. 
So I know the answer. 

456
00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:51,440
It's just about money because 
there's nothing else that can 

457
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,160
validate expansion. 
You're not getting better teams 

458
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,400
in, you're not getting better 
competition in. 

459
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,640
And really, So what you what you
are doing. 

460
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,440
And again, put money aside 
because that's the main 

461
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,520
motivation. 
We all know that. 

462
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,240
But what you're really doing is,
and this is, this is really 

463
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,440
important, you are just further 
invalidating the regular season.

464
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,600
So you doing. 
And I know because I know how I 

465
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:14,640
feel. 
Outside of St. 

466
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,520
John's in the Big East, the 
regular season simply doesn't 

467
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,320
mean that much anymore. 
So you're creating more of a 

468
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:26,480
wiggle room and more, you know, 
more of a runway to recover from

469
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,520
shitty starts. 
Hey, I mean, come on. 

470
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,000
This, to me, is emblematic of 
the trophy culture. 

471
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,600
All right, Little Joey, you 
finish in fourth place. 

472
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,280
Here's a medal. 
Hey, Timmy, good job, man. 

473
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,840
All right. 
Yo, here's a ring. 

474
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,520
You finished in 7th place. 
Oh, you know, Anthony, 

475
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,440
outstanding season. 
Here's a certificate for 

476
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,960
finishing 7th place in rec 
T-ball or rec baseball or rec 

477
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,320
basketball. 
What are we doing? 

478
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,120
What I I this really bothers me.
I'm not going to spend those 

479
00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:58,000
show on this because I don't 
know how much it really matters 

480
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,960
to you, but I just think it's 
utterly unnecessary and really 

481
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,320
reflective and emblematic of 
what's wrong with these idiots 

482
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,760
that run the NCAA tournament. 
They are so stupid and I don't 

483
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,760
really use that word very often,
but they are selfish and they 

484
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,760
are stupid. 
They really are. 

485
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:16,840
What's going on there? 
What is that? 

486
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,560
How do you say that Twitter 
handle there? 

487
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,560
J Rod, How do you? 
Go like Jay own Yeah, that's 

488
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,640
like they own like Jay N like 
Jay N 5636. 

489
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,280
Jaome kind of like Jane or we'll
go something like that. 5636 

490
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,440
months out there, buddy. 
BT sending love from Texas. 

491
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,960
Massive shout out from Texas. 
My wife is from Dallas. 

492
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,240
You know that a lot of love for 
Texas going to the WBC today. 

493
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,480
Very good. 
Let's go Team USA. 

494
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,200
That is a jury. 
I haven't gotten a jersey in a 

495
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,200
while. 
Those team USAWBC white jerseys 

496
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,280
are fresh. 
Man. 

497
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,200
I might have to get my hands on 
one of those. 

498
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,080
I really might have to. 
Huge WFAN fan since the 90s 

499
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,360
turned your podcast into an into
an empire. 

500
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,160
That's the goal. 
How do you say that one boy 

501
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,160
we're getting hit with? 
Give him a little more love than

502
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,480
that. 
He threw a super chat up there 

503
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,760
buddy. 
We can't treat them the same 

504
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,320
way. 
NYC, Istanbul Connect. 

505
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:06,640
All right, that's actually 
pretty easy. 

506
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,480
There you go. 
NYC and Istanbul connect. 

507
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,760
Thank you very much. 
Yeah, I mean, we're all fans of 

508
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,800
WFN going back to its inception 
in 87 for me. 

509
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,280
And that is the that is the 
goal. 

510
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,280
That is the absolute goal. 
That is the stated mission of BT

511
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,760
Unleashed. 
Not to, you know, just carve out

512
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,440
a little tiny existence or, you 
know, make a little dent in the 

513
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,200
space. 
The goal is to to take over. 

514
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,920
That's the stated goal. 
The stated goal is to turn this,

515
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,080
you know, you want to use the 
word empire, That's fine. 

516
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,040
I use the word monster. 
It it is that is my every waking

517
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,760
moment. 
I, and I've said this before, 

518
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,480
and I'm not looking for pity and
I'm not looking for points 

519
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,680
because this is what you do when
you start a new business. 

520
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,600
You literally deal with every 
single aspect, the sales 

521
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,760
aspects, the graphics and all 
things I never had to do with 

522
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,760
WFAN or any other stations I was
on in my entire 20 plus year 

523
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,480
career, You know, across the 
country, local, national, drive 

524
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,640
time, you name it, I've done it.
TV shows, now that was just show

525
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,960
up, be prepared, do your job and
call it a day. 

526
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,840
But now I what I've really found
the easiest part of this show, J

527
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,520
Rod is ironically doing the 
show. 

528
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,240
You know, once I come, once I 
come up with the content. 

529
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,120
And again, for the most part, 
I'd say out of every 10 shows, 9

530
00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:20,800
I know exactly how we're 
leading. 

531
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,320
I know what the secondary story 
is. 

532
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,560
I know where we're going, but 
all the others that, you know, 

533
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,000
coordination with you throughout
the day, you do a great job 

534
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,680
cutting up the shorts. 
I upload them to my Instagram 

535
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,080
account. 
I mean, constant messages and 

536
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,720
about the technology, the 
cameras, the lighting, the 

537
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,960
backdrop. 
I mean, it is non-stop. 

538
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,960
I mean, the sales. 
My wife is selling everything. 

539
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,800
We have more talks about sales 
than we do about the kids, you 

540
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,080
know, for the last couple of 
weeks here. 

541
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,760
It's insane dude, but yeah. 
Yeah, I mean, I guess that's 

542
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,000
that's the reality of starting 
one of these channels up is you 

543
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,880
just realize the the amount of 
possibility because you know the

544
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,960
possibilities are limitless and 
therefore like your mind just 

545
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,160
runs so wherever it can go. 
Yes, yes, yes. 

546
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,040
And, and it was really, really 
awesome to get Michael on the 

547
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,440
show. 
The numbers were great. 

548
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:07,800
You couldn't wait to see 
Michael. 

549
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,840
It was a fantastic conversation.
That was just money. 

550
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,400
We're going to get Rick on. 
As I said, Rick Pitino is going 

551
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,440
to be on Monday at 2:00 PM here 
on Unleash. 

552
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,920
And, you know, I was thinking 
that maybe we push it back, but 

553
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,600
at that point, the way the way 
it works is going to be wrapped 

554
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,800
up in the Big East tournament. 
The last thing he's wanted to, 

555
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,840
even though I know him pretty 
well, then he's been very good 

556
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,400
to me. 
I don't want to bother him. 

557
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,840
And then obviously once 
Selection Sunday drops, it's 

558
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,000
micro scouting because you could
be like last year they they 

559
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,360
played this team Omaha that I I 
had never seen play a singles. 

560
00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:38,600
I think it may have been their 
first NCAA tournament appearance

561
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,440
ever. 
So you got to get the film, you 

562
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,480
got to scour. 
They said, who's the shooters? 

563
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:43,840
What do they do? 
What style? 

564
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,800
How do we counterbalance that? 
I mean, it's, they are, they're 

565
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,600
locked in their offices 
collectively as a staff and as a

566
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,440
team, you know, night and day. 
So I just want to give them 

567
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,640
their, I'll travel with them and
I'll be at as far as they go. 

568
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,880
I mean, if they go to the final 
four, I'll be there. 

569
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,280
So I'll be giving some great 
content on the road travelling 

570
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,000
with St. 
John's. 

571
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,000
But Rick, Rick, Rick is Monday. 
I, I'm really trying to get 

572
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,320
Donnie on Tuesday. 
That's the goal there. 

573
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,960
But The funny thing is, as you 
talk about building out the 

574
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,240
channel, building out the show, 
the interviews, I should say, 

575
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,680
the conversation will be a very 
big part of it. 

576
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,640
And I thought about this J Rod. 
So I've given J Rod a lot of 

577
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,400
homework. 
He's got to watch the Requiem 

578
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,440
for a Big E 30 for 30. 
You know, I gave him a nice 

579
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,880
assignment last weekend and he 
did come through. 

580
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,680
He watched the Warriors from 
1979 get a little, you know, 

581
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,760
1970s New York City grid on 
this. 

582
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,000
This young man's cinematic 
definitely need. 

583
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,880
That. 
You, you, you loved it. 

584
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,520
You talked about it. 
Well, we got to get you to watch

585
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,200
Carlito's Way with Pacino. 
One. 

586
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,160
Yep, yesterday. 
OK, OK. 

587
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,360
You have seen the Bronx Tale, by
the way, with De Niro, right? 

588
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:49,760
Oh no. 
Oh God. 

589
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:51,760
I'm sorry. 
I'm sorry. 

590
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:58,200
Forgive me, I know that's a 
rough one. 

591
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,080
That's a rough one. 
I mean, I don't know if that's 

592
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,040
recoverable, man, but I'm going 
to still tell you to watch 

593
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,640
Carlito's way before Bronx Tale.
I'm going to tell you to do like

594
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,640
so that don't work. 
We'll get to Bronx Tale at a 

595
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,680
different point. 
Anyway. 

596
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,800
The other assignment in addition
to getting me on Joe Rogan show 

597
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,400
or Joe on this show. 
And listen, I've started 

598
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,720
plotting. 
Oh, I've got a ski. 

599
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,600
I mean, I, I read one of the 
comments and, and he, he does 

600
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,160
have it. 
It's, you know, I, I think it's 

601
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,800
gonna be a, it's gonna be a 
conversation on the, on the 

602
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,480
changing landscape of sports 
media 100% like that. 

603
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,200
That's probably what it would 
end up being a discussion on. 

604
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,240
Obviously he's a guy who like 
was part of the, you know, 

605
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,640
changing of the formats in terms
of like audio and listening. 

606
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,760
So I feel like that would 
definitely coincide with like 

607
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,160
your pivot just now with 
streaming sort of podcast thing 

608
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,680
and also just talking about 
maybe the the future of sports 

609
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,480
broadcasting, stuff like that. 
So that would be my thought on 

610
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,840
the angle you attack it. 
From I got a question for you, 

611
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,720
by the way, very creative angle.
I like it. 

612
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,920
So not only are you in pursuit 
of that, but you have a direct, 

613
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,200
clear and concise lane. 
That's smart. 

614
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,480
I think that could work. 
So let me ask you the 

615
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,000
hypothetical. 
And as I discussed yesterday, 

616
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,360
I'm not a big fan of 
hypotheticals because as I drove

617
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,080
Sister Connie nuts, I need 
direct answers with religion. 

618
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,600
I need answers. 
I need confirmation with certain

619
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:19,760
things. 
I mean certain things, you have 

620
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,400
to take a leap of faith, which 
with which I do. 

621
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,480
That was part of yesterday's the
hypothetically speaking, let's 

622
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,520
say that I was on Joe Show 
Monday. 

623
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,960
Just say and which I, which I 
know I'm not going to be and 

624
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,440
let's say by Monday we'll get to
18,000 Subs today. 

625
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,800
Let let's just say we had a big 
weekend. 

626
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,880
We get to 20,000 Subs. 
I literally 20 comma 00 zero 

627
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,280
20,000 on the button. 
I go on Rogan show on Monday 

628
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,360
late the next day. 
Where do you think we are at 

629
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,920
Subs wise? 
What do you what do you think 

630
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,960
that jumps to with Joe just by 
being on the? 

631
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,320
Show I mean. 
Or a week. 

632
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,200
I mean, whatever. 
No, my guess would be all right.

633
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,840
Within a week, you'd probably be
at 100. 

634
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,760
Yeah, Yeah, I think you'd 
probably get like a cake of 

635
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,880
102100K right you. 
Shitting me. 

636
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,160
You think more or less. 
I was thinking less, but I mean 

637
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,840
maybe you're right of it is 
reaches. 

638
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,400
No, I think, yeah, I think, wow.
You would off the. 

639
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,160
Because depending on the amount 
of of listeners I think you get 

640
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,080
a kick. 
I'd say it'd be like 70 to 100K.

641
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,160
Wow, make it happen, dude. 
That's a big, that's a big raise

642
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,040
for you. 
That's a huge jump. 

643
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,800
That would be an incredible. 
Jump. 

644
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,080
That's the additional incentive.
So I told you, I didn't tell you

645
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,280
how much I'll give you a little 
bonus, you know, a little cash 

646
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,840
bonus there via the Venmo in 
addition to your weekly salary. 

647
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,120
But you know, if that happens 
the and we get that kind of a 

648
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,480
sub jump, I mean you would get a
bump in your weekly salary in 

649
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,480
addition, in addition. 
There's a lot of incentives 

650
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,240
here. 
There is now I'd say this about 

651
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,320
the guest here because I was 
thinking about this and then I'm

652
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,080
going to get to the coach K 
quote not yet about his take on 

653
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,200
the expansion. 
These dopes running the NCAA 

654
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,080
I've got to get now. 
The problem is, is not many of 

655
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,200
them left because so many have 
died off with drug use and 

656
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,240
steroids. 
We have to plot out our first 

657
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,280
WWE guest, and I mean an old 
school one. 

658
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,320
I mean an old school 1 old 
school. 

659
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:19,840
You know, like I've, I've had, 
I've interviewed Triple H, CM 

660
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,760
Punk, I I've interviewed Cena, 
some of the newer ones like for 

661
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,640
WrestleMania promos and it was 
great. 

662
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,320
They were phenomenal. 
It was awesome that it exploded 

663
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,960
digitally. 
But I, I need an old school guy 

664
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,440
and there's just not that many 
around. 

665
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,760
Like, yeah, So what I what 
here's what I need from the 

666
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,440
unleashed fan here, because I 
know everybody will not 

667
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,800
everybody, but so many of you. 
Any time there's an old 

668
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,680
reference there, like AWWE 
reference, you really light up 

669
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,200
with the comments. 
You guys dig that. 

670
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,840
So, and you can even do it now 
start throwing out some names 

671
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,320
and somebody who's active, like 
I know some guys do podcasts and

672
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,280
I'm, I'll name a few in a minute
that that you think will be a 

673
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,760
great, get a great conversation.
Old school stuff. 

674
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,400
I was watching some kayfabe 
stuff last night. 

675
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,960
King Kong Bundy was no longer 
with us. 

676
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,680
I, I, I saw something on him. 
I, I finally had 20 minutes to 

677
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,640
myself and I was, I was watching
that. 

678
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,880
I know Jake the snake does 
something. 

679
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,280
The snake, I think it's the 
snake pit pod. 

680
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,560
Whatever it is, Jake would be 
great because he's been through 

681
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,360
hell and back. 
Jake the snake, No. 

682
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:20,960
I. 
Guess I would assume Stone Cold 

683
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,240
doesn't do 1. 
He doesn't do a podcast 

684
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,720
probably. 
He yeah, but here's the thing, 

685
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,800
Jay, Jay, no think you're 
thinking the you're thinking the

686
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,120
wrong era. 
Think my before I want old 

687
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,440
school 'cause I I've had some of
those guys on and they're great 

688
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:33,520
and like. 
Hitman. 

689
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,720
Hart Yeah, there we go. 
Yeah, that's what I'm talking 

690
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:37,280
about. 
Sure. 

691
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,400
Brett the Hitman hard. 
Greg Ballentine I think does 

692
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,440
some stuff, but I don't think 
his I don't want to diss Greg. 

693
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,480
I, I don't think his podcast is 
that great. 

694
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,760
You know, I mean, Piper, God, if
Piper was still alive, that 

695
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,840
would be phenomenal. 
He's my all time favorite, you 

696
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,600
know, on the mic, which is other
content we'll do. 

697
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,560
We'll do my top 10 wrestlers, my
top 10 interviewers, like, you 

698
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,120
know, Mike guys in the in the in
the WWE. 

699
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,800
Hogan's no longer with us. 
Piper Snake does some stuff. 

700
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,920
I think Honky Tonk man still 
does a lot of stuff. 

701
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,520
A lot of people hate Honky Tonk 
man. 

702
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,160
He gets a lot of shade. 
Anyway, we got to start working 

703
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,360
on that. 
So shoot in some text there or 

704
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,760
chats, however you want to frame
it. 

705
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,440
Any any it's got to be old 
school though. 

706
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,400
When I say old school, we'll go 
pre 95 and again, not that we're

707
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,680
not going to have anybody else 
post 95, but there I want to I 

708
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,160
just I I love this. 
I don't know what it is. 

709
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,920
I love the stories about, you 
know, 3 or 4 guys in a car, you 

710
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,720
know, Hammer not that you should
ever do this. 

711
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,720
Clearly I'm I'm not advocating 
this at all. 

712
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,080
It's, it's, it's, it's, it's 
dangerous and it's illegal and 

713
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,040
it's just idiotic, you know? 
But guys back then hammering 

714
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,080
back beers, doing coke while 
they're driving, you know, 

715
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:49,040
wrestling 335 * a year, staying 
out till 5:00 AM and then doing 

716
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,440
3 or 4 bumps just to get up to, 
to perform. 

717
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,560
Like those guys lived a very 
different life shooting up 

718
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,720
steroids in the locker room, 
doing drugs wide open. 

719
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,080
Everybody had a bag of pills 
like, and again, I'm not 

720
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,720
advocating that stuff. 
I have a little fun with the 

721
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,240
gummies with you guys. 
But like that stuff that's I'm 

722
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,880
not about that at all. 
But just to hear those stories, 

723
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,320
it's it's crazy. 
It is absolutely bonkers. 

724
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,719
What those no, no wonder they're
no longer with us. 

725
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,400
On a serious note, All right, 
according to reports this 

726
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,760
morning, Frank Reich, I saw this
once Carson Wentz more than 

727
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,360
anybody else. 
What a joke that would be. 

728
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:26,639
That's from Chris, Chris, Chris.
Christmas. 

729
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,800
Yeah, that's, it's not 
Christmas, it's Chris Christmas.

730
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,040
I appreciate that, Chris. 
Chris, with this one, especially

731
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,199
when you do a super chat, I want
to at least get your name right.

732
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:37,520
I did see that. 
Yeah. 

733
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,239
I mean, listen, I'm. 
I'm not going to really spin off

734
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,480
and I'll address it quickly 
because you hit the Super chat 

735
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,040
and it's no rules Friday. 
So we bump around here. 

736
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,560
It's all good. 
I mean, I mean, Carson Wentz, 

737
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:47,360
dude. 
Yeah. 

738
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,080
I mean, God, you know, Kyler 
Murray. 

739
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,800
We've heard a lot about Kyler 
Murray and a lot on Kyler Murray

740
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,880
on the show. 
He's not a Frank Wright kind of 

741
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:55,639
guy. 
Small. 

742
00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:58,040
He's 510. 
Frank likes those bigger, more 

743
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,560
prototypical pocket passers. 
I think it's going to be if you 

744
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,080
you know, you got to pin me 
down, maybe somebody like Carson

745
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:09,960
Wentz, a car, a maybe trade for 
Jacoby percent, which I'd be OK 

746
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,880
for. 
I mentioned yesterday the Niners

747
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,480
are asking for, excuse me, a 
first round pick for Mac Jones 

748
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,680
and the first round pick to get 
a grip. 

749
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,880
Let's not go nuts here. 
All right, you can get that off 

750
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,640
the board there. 
You can get that super chat off.

751
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,440
So let's get this up on the 
board just to finish. 

752
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,840
All right, let me hit this. 
Then we'll get to the Rick 

753
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:26,840
stuff. 
What do we got here? 

754
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:32,040
Huge DX guy need, you know, a 
heartbreak kit and all AAA go go

755
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,960
army. 
Oh, I love I you know, I've got 

756
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:34,560
great. 
Who is that? 

757
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,240
Michael, Michael Mora dash V9G. 
You know, I love West Point. 

758
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:43,320
Profound respect for West Point.
It's funny, I was not the I kind

759
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,520
of stopped wrestling just as 
those guys were taking off. 

760
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,720
Then I jump back into it so well
aware of their impact and, you 

761
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:50,600
know, just the shenanigans with 
those guys. 

762
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,120
My God, I've got a funny little.
That's why I like the that's why

763
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,160
I like the text messages or the 
chat, because I read something 

764
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,160
and it spurs just a little 
thought. 

765
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,320
So you love, you know, go Army, 
which obviously is West Point 

766
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,760
right in the Hudson Valley, not 
far from where I went at Marist,

767
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,960
up in Marist in the 90 minutes 
ish, 90 miles north of New York 

768
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,640
City, right? 
So I went to West Point 

769
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,880
basketball camp going into my 
freshman year of high school, 

770
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,960
but I also played against West 
Point several times in baseball 

771
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,200
while I was at Marist. 
And The funny thing is, and I 

772
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,640
didn't even know this and a few 
of my buddies went to West Point

773
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,880
from Xavier, my buddy John, my 
buddy Joe, another guy Rod, who 

774
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,880
I wasn't that good, good of 
friends with, but good dude 

775
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,040
winner, great swimmer. 
Like just you go to West Point, 

776
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,480
you're you're an inherent winner
period. 

777
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,640
And my buddy John, I think Joe 
was wrapped up in clash. 

778
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,160
John came to watch me play. 
First time I ever played 

779
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,200
against. 
I played them two or three 

780
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,920
times, right. 
And I did not know about this 

781
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,320
tradition on campus. 
So I'm a freshman and I'm in the

782
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,320
I don't know, maybe I was 
batting 6. 

783
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,520
So I think, I think it was the 
second inning and maybe even 7th

784
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,600
whatever. 
Either way, I'm in the batter's 

785
00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:00,600
box and at 6:00 on the button, I
mean, you drop a dime, 6:00 

786
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,080
bang. 
Everything stops on campus no 

787
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,000
matter what you're doing, 
whether you're walking 

788
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,120
somewhere, working out, 
obviously in class, eating in 

789
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,200
the mess hall. 
And even when I went to 

790
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,680
basketball camp, we had to eat 
like this. 

791
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,760
You got to sit. 
I think it's 5 or 6 inches away 

792
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,840
from the table. 
It's a certain amount of inches 

793
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,440
for we had to do this as an 
eighth grader. 

794
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,000
I'm like, first of all, West 
Point wouldn't want me with my 

795
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,960
grades, but God, how do you, I 
don't know so much respect for 

796
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,240
doing that and having that kind 
of lifestyle in college. 

797
00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:30,960
It's wild. 
Like no parties, you know, no 

798
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,760
girls, you know, And no, I just,
it's nuts. 

799
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,720
And we're eating like this at, 
at, you know, you have to lift 

800
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:39,160
up the fork of the spoon and 
then bring it to your mouth. 

801
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,840
So I'm in the batter's box and 
all of a sudden I start hearing 

802
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,280
like the, the, the bugle and 
whatever's going on. 

803
00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:49,400
You know what? 
I'm, I'm, I guess I'm kicking 

804
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,920
dirt, dirt out of my spikes and 
whatever I'm doing, looking for 

805
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:57,160
a sign third base. 
And the catcher evidently is, is

806
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,960
not allowed to speak. 
Nobody's allowed to speak. 

807
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,560
So I'm moving around and like, 
I, I feel the catcher staring at

808
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,440
me like shooting a laser beam 
through me. 

809
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,640
I don't know what's going on and
I'm just doing my pre, you know,

810
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,520
pre swing, whatever I'm doing. 
Probably something like 

811
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,280
Mattingly. 
And finally, thank God, the 

812
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,600
umpire says, Son, stand at 
attention. 

813
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:19,600
I'm like, I'm like, what? 
And I look around and everybody 

814
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,320
on the field, every West Point 
player, and then our team in the

815
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,120
dugout caught on and you have to
stand at attention. 

816
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,800
I'm pretty sure it was 6:00. 
This is a long time ago, but it 

817
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,960
was at the top of an hour and I 
think it was 6. 

818
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,280
And I stood in the batter's box,
you know, I stepped out a little

819
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,720
bit and then stood at attention 
with put my hand on my heart. 

820
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,400
And I think I held my bat at my 
side with the other hand and did

821
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,360
not move. 
And the catcher didn't say that.

822
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,680
I just thank God the umpires. 
I mean, not, not anything would 

823
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,440
have happened, but certainly 
don't didn't want to disrespect 

824
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,840
anything. 
So yeah, Army love West Point 

825
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,120
anytime you know the Black 
Knights of the Hudson Valley 

826
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,040
play a football game. 
I'm rooting for him anytime they

827
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,720
play army Navy, which is every 
year. 

828
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,400
I'm an army guy. 
All right, let's get the Rick 

829
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,200
Pitino cut up there. 
Did I send you this one J Rod? 

830
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,560
Yes, I did send you this cut. 
Look at Rick. 

831
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,680
OK, so that is obviously going 
to be again on Monday. 

832
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:14,600
All right, I know that we played
that at the top of the hour, but

833
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,920
I wanted you to see that again. 
And now let's just transfer to 

834
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,960
the coach K cut because this is 
in line what we open up the show

835
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,440
with. 
All right, so here's what I 

836
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,560
mean. 
Listen, Coach K's legendary and 

837
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,320
he's sensible. 
Quote, this is about these dopes

838
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,000
in the NCAA getting ready to 
expand the field, which is I 

839
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,920
guarantee it's going to happen 
and I pretty much guarantee it's

840
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,560
going to happen next year. 
Quote, There are less teams 

841
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,560
capable right now than ever 
before and there are many have 

842
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,800
nots and it's not their fault. 
I don't think you mess with 

843
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,920
something that is gold. 
It's gold. 

844
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,080
The thing you should mess with 
is getting a leadership group 

845
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,120
and having them study and see 
what happens with that group. 

846
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,280
I wouldn't mess with gold right 
now. 

847
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,800
And the NCAA tournament is 
certainly that's Coach K, the 

848
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,680
great Mike Schefsky, who 
ironically was also played at 

849
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,280
Army under Bobby Knight, 
Speaking of West Point, All 

850
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,960
right, Of course he gets it 
because he's Coach K. 

851
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,680
You're watering down something 
that does not need to be watered

852
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:13,240
down like in a lot of ways guys 
now yes, if the NCAA tournament 

853
00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:16,240
is more attractive when you've 
got like the recognizable 

854
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:18,360
brands, the blue bloods, which 
is kind of a. 

855
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,760
You know, overused term, but it 
doesn't matter. 

856
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,520
Like when you've got the 
Kansas's and the Dukes and the 

857
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,680
UNC's and you know, even the 
Arizona's now, but certainly the

858
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,520
Arizona's back in the day with 
Lute Olson, the Michigan State's

859
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,160
all these years with Tom Izzo, 
you know, UConn now with Hurley,

860
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,880
UConn with with of course, the 
great coach Calhoun, St. 

861
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,240
John's with Cordiseca, Saint 
John's now Syracuse with the Bay

862
00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:42,200
Highball. 
Those years. 

863
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,440
I'm just, you know, picking a 
bunch of different schools and 

864
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,840
many others. 
Florida, of course, like when 

865
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,360
you have that and they are, you 
know, thought to be almost 

866
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,480
unbeatable. 
I'm not saying St. 

867
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,800
Johnson unbeatable this year, 
but like back in the day when 

868
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,200
you had like a team like 
Carolina that had three seniors,

869
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,160
2 juniors, 1 softball, who's 
going top ten in the draft, like

870
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,080
that's must watch stuff because 
the element of the upset, that's

871
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,880
where the real intrigue comes 
in. 

872
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,080
So, and this is I'm not going to
say that this is the NCAA. 

873
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,320
This is not their fault. 
I want to be fair. 

874
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,400
The volatility and the constant 
jumping around school to school,

875
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,800
to school to school, You really 
know anybody on the roster. 

876
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,360
Is there any familiarity? 
Is there any real rivalry? 

877
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,040
Think about how is a rivalry 
born? 

878
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,440
If you really think about the 
essence of a rivalry, it's very 

879
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,560
simple to describe. 
A rivalry is born when you get 

880
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,480
in my way of me trying to 
accomplish what I'm trying to 

881
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,040
accomplish. 
And as a result of that, 

882
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,840
subsequently, you know, we meet,
we have a tough battle, you win,

883
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,520
and then what do you know, the 
next year we meet again and now 

884
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,160
I might beat you or maybe you 
beat me twice in a row and now 

885
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,600
I'm now I've got a better team 
and now I've got to beat you. 

886
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,280
In terms of the fan bases and 
the coaching with the pressure. 

887
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,880
That's a rivalry, right? 
And that's why, you know, so 

888
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,640
many of these coaches who are 
now younger and and that's 

889
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,200
that's a great thing. 
It's it's all good, but so many 

890
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,840
and and Izzo and I've talked to 
Tom Izzo. 

891
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,440
I probably interviewed Tom Izzo 
probably 15 times in my life and

892
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,400
he is so I'm surprised he's 
still coaching. 

893
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,360
He is so disgusted with the 
NCAA. 

894
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,360
Not not so much the money. 
He believes that they should be 

895
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,520
paid as do I, but all the other 
stuff like the virtues have been

896
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,120
stripped away from the NCAA 
tournament. 

897
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:23,080
And I don't know if you think 
about, well, think about St. 

898
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,280
John's and UConn now, all right?
St. 

899
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,720
John's was never a rival to 
UConn because UConn used to 

900
00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:30,000
stomp up. 
I mean, UConn wouldn't even have

901
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,040
to play hard. 
I mean, before Rick and they 

902
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:39,960
beat them with their eyes shut, 
you know, 8769, you know, 8257, 

903
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,200
like, they just get destroyed. 
Rivalry. 

904
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,560
Oh, it sounds good. 
Oh, you caught at the Garden. 

905
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,920
But if you're not a viable 
threat or if you're not in their

906
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,720
way, you just know they're all 
right. 

907
00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:50,520
Whatever, I'm going to smack you
and get on to the team. 

908
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,200
That really matters, right? 
So what happened here? 

909
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,600
Hurley's nuts in a good way. 
Pitino's legendary and nuts in 

910
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:57,760
his own way. 
Right. 

911
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,560
And, you know, UConn 
back-to-back championships 

912
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,480
couple of years ago. 
Rick's seconds. 

913
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,360
Yeah. 
Rick's hold on Rick's first 

914
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:10,960
season they lost to UConn on 
Friday night they did the game 

915
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,720
with Mink and Saint John scored 
90 plus points. 

916
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,440
It was the most point UConn gave
up UConn was better and they 

917
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,640
went on to win the championship.
Saint John's, if they would have

918
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,000
won that, they would have made 
the tournament. 

919
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,520
They just missed out. 
And the I think, I think the 

920
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,440
seeds, the foundation for a 
rivalry was born. 

921
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,400
Because then last year what 
happened was St. 

922
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,320
John's went up the stores and 
Kadari with that twisting shot 

923
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,320
and you know, RJ Lewis with the 
with the jumper for the base of 

924
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:38,120
St. 
John's one. 

925
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,400
And then, you know, here we go. 
And then they beat him again at 

926
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:42,960
the Garden. 
Then this year St. 

927
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,440
John's beat him at the Garden. 
So when St. 

928
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,800
John's went to it was at 
Hartford this year, 10 days or 

929
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:53,080
so ago, whatever it was, UConn 
fans were re engaged in a way 

930
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,240
that used to be for teams that 
really matter to them. 

931
00:43:56,240 --> 00:43:58,600
But because St. 
John's was now beginning to take

932
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,840
whether it's a biggie's regular 
season crown or a biggie's 

933
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,320
championship in terms of the 
tournament, what was once 

934
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,960
there's unlock. 
Well, now we got to take you 

935
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,760
seriously and that's how you 
have a rivalry. 

936
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,640
So there's just no rivalries 
anymore outside of, you know, 

937
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,080
the one that I just mentioned. 
That's a really good one, you 

938
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,120
know, all right, Michigan State,
Michigan, all right, you got the

939
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,000
energy within the state. 
Yeah, I get it. 

940
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,880
You know, Florida, Florida 
State, you play each other Fair 

941
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,760
enough in the non conference. 
Some other ones Miami, FL all 

942
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,400
right, great Miami, FL state. 
But the energy and the 

943
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,080
importance is really dissipated.
And if you expand it, which 

944
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,080
these idiots will, it just gets 
worse and worse and we're and 

945
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,600
more and more diluted, which is 
probably a better way to say it.

946
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,560
Now, J Rod, let me I'm going to 
I'm going to give the young buck

947
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,680
a chance to shine a little bit. 
You know what's up? 

948
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,040
If I said to you and I don't 
even have my list yet, I'm going

949
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,800
to do this on the fly. 
We'll do a little audible. 

950
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,720
All right, before we get to my 
guy Shaq, who I love, his all 

951
00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:51,520
time top ten list is the dumbest
one that I've ever seen. 

952
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,600
Oh yeah, I was going to. 
It is really, I mean, and yeah, 

953
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,320
I mean, I've got multiple issues
with OK. 

954
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,120
And I'll give you a chance to 
expand on that as well. 

955
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,120
We'll do that in a little bit. 
But the if I said to you, what 

956
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,320
are the three or five, Let's go 
with three, 5 might be too many.

957
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,800
What are the three greatest 
sporting traditions in your 

958
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,240
opinion in our country? 
So forget about the World Cup, 

959
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:15,720
stuff like that. 
Go ahead. 

960
00:45:15,720 --> 00:45:20,400
March Madness. 
Yep, Super Bowl 2 for two. 

961
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:26,000
March Madness, Super Bowl. 
OK, I mean, you could go like, I

962
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,480
see. 
I want to say NBA Finals are 

963
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,440
World Series, but I just don't 
believe it's not the NBA Finals.

964
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,800
It's not a spectacle. 
It's not the NBA Finals. 

965
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,920
What would you say? 
Like PGA Tour? 

966
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:40,480
Well, I I mean, you, you get hot
man, or like 2 for two US, not 

967
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:41,880
U.S. 
Open either, because it's less 

968
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,080
of an American. 
I think it is obviously 

969
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,840
American. 
But tennis. 

970
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:46,640
Tennis. 
Yeah, tennis. 

971
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,680
OK, yeah, I'm not a big tennis 
fan. 

972
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:49,720
I love it. 
PGA Tour. 

973
00:45:49,720 --> 00:45:50,960
I enjoy it. 
PGA Tour. 

974
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,120
Yeah, I'm going to and it's the 
Masters, all right. 

975
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,200
And you can even throw the Open 
Championship. 

976
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,840
But obviously the disclaimer 
here is domestically, and that's

977
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,920
of course over overseas. 
So I you definitely got the 

978
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,480
first two. 
I mean, you got to put Super 

979
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,320
Bowl 1, you got to put March 
Madness 2. 

980
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,480
And then to me it would be the 
Masters, which is an untouched 

981
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,880
tradition. 
Now see the problem with and, 

982
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,760
and put the Masters off to the 
side for a moment because even 

983
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,760
without Tiger and Phil and, and 
though, even though they, you 

984
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,520
know, they still play a little 
bit, they're not as relevant as 

985
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,040
they were. 
And Tigers jacked up and Phil is

986
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,720
not the same, but it's still the
Masters and it's still the same 

987
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:23,200
course. 
And the great thing about the 

988
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,160
masters for me. 
So I'm not going to put just a 

989
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,920
quick thing on the Masters. 
Why I love it so much is that 

990
00:46:29,240 --> 00:46:33,280
you sit there and you watch year
after year after year and you 

991
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,120
know exactly if you're a golfer 
or even just a little bit of a 

992
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,680
golfer and a golf fan, you know 
where trouble is, you know, top 

993
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,080
shelf on this screen, it's not 
going to stick or uh oh, here's 

994
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,960
you know, it's going to funnel 
into the pond. 

995
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,560
He's going to go for it and too,
that's a tough spot and you 

996
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,800
know, race Creek, all all the 
great traditions plus 

997
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:54,640
aesthetically it's beautiful now
I, I, I was not watching this 

998
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,040
live. 
I was not into golf at all at 

999
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,760
this point, but like when you 
see footage of Greg Norman 

1000
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,480
falling apart at the Masters, 
and I don't expect you to know 

1001
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,280
this, but it it he just 
complete? 

1002
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,080
I think he was up to six or 
seven, whatever. 

1003
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,600
He was just complete. 
And he was, he was #1 at the 

1004
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,400
time in the world, Greg, Greg 
Norman. 

1005
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,000
And he just, he can't be rinsed.
I think two shots and he just 

1006
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,280
imploded. 
Lost the Masters, right? 

1007
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,560
You can, I can still see where 
he is. 

1008
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,920
And they will play that back. 
Not not to clown him, but during

1009
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,560
the Masters when other guys now 
are there or in trouble just to 

1010
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,240
document this. 
So it's, it's great. 

1011
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:32,680
It's like just one chronological
snapshot of time that is 

1012
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,240
amazing. 
So to me, the Masters on the 

1013
00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:36,200
list. 
But now we push that aside. 

1014
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,720
Super Bowl. 
All right, listen, I went to a 

1015
00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:42,200
party this year. 
Each year, I'm just going to be 

1016
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,200
honest, I care less and less 
about the Super Bowl because the

1017
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,840
Super Bowl has become less and 
less about the Super Bowl and 

1018
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,400
more and more about all the 
other bullshit. 

1019
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,360
And I don't just mean Bad Bunny,
which if you loved it, great. 

1020
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:53,960
I'm not here to disparage Bad 
Bunny. 

1021
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,840
I just don't know his music and 
I don't know your music. 

1022
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,080
I can't relate to you. 
I mean, I know a lot of people 

1023
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,400
love it, so I'm not going to 
dump on you. 

1024
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,440
I know that it's certainly 
political undertones there, 

1025
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,400
though. 
I thought that that was a little

1026
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,400
bit overstated because I thought
the messaging was good that he 

1027
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,120
tried to do the right thing and 
and appeal to the, the, the 

1028
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,040
overwhelming mass of people. 
I watched both. 

1029
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,720
I told you the party I was at, I
watched both with with Kid Rock 

1030
00:48:15,720 --> 00:48:18,080
and I just wanted both to end so
I could get back to the game, 

1031
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,400
which which absolutely sucked. 
Anyway, it's about the 

1032
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,240
commercials and and I've had I 
had some fun on the show before 

1033
00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:26,720
the Super Bowl. 
Like it's almost frustrating in 

1034
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:29,920
the sense that now I was at a 
smaller party this year with 

1035
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,240
some of our best friends in 
town, which was great. 

1036
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,960
But I've been at parties, you 
know, and I got to get on the 

1037
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,080
air the next day and you have 
people yapping. 

1038
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,480
People don't know what's going 
on. 

1039
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,200
People don't, that don't know 
what to shut up. 

1040
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,520
And it's a tough way to for me 
to, for me selfishly doing this 

1041
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,800
for a living to consume the 
biggest game of the year. 

1042
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,600
It's just this, but I still 
watch every second. 

1043
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,840
I still get into it. 
Obviously it's a Super Bowl, but

1044
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,440
the Super Bowl is not what it 
once was. 

1045
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,360
And now we're at a point where 
they are now beginning more and 

1046
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,040
more and more and more to make 
March Madness not what it was. 

1047
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,240
So just to bring this whole 
thing full circle, why are we 

1048
00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:07,120
always not we because we're not 
doing it. 

1049
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,960
But why are these dopes outside 
of money just so hell bent and 

1050
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,440
motivated to alter traditions? 
Why? 

1051
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:18,720
I mean it's. 
Just why I think at the bottom 

1052
00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:21,800
line, it's it's it's a 
hypothetical. 

1053
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,000
It's someone in their ear. 
It's focus groups. 

1054
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,200
It's whoever who are going, this
is going to make you more like 

1055
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,960
this is going to make you. 
I mean, for the NCAA tournament,

1056
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,720
I'm sure that's not the case. 
But like, it's people going, 

1057
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,600
yeah, we'll get more fans in 
seats, we'll get more money. 

1058
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,160
We'll get more viewers on TV 
just because there are more 

1059
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,840
teams, even if the matchups are 
somehow worse, you know, which 

1060
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,280
could lead to less viewers on 
that end. 

1061
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,120
I don't know. 
Me neither. 

1062
00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:47,960
I, I, I think you know what it 
is. 

1063
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,320
I think in a lot of ways they've
got to justify their position. 

1064
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,360
And if you remain stagnant and 
stagnant obviously has a 

1065
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,200
negative connotation. 
If you're stagnant, you're not 

1066
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,200
growing, which which I don't 
espouse for anything, but I 

1067
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,440
don't look at keeping a great 
tradition and not changing it as

1068
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,840
remaining stagnant. 
I, I believe there's a couple of

1069
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,360
things. 
And if you do that with like the

1070
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,560
Super Bowl and March Madness and
the Masters and maybe one or two

1071
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,240
others, you're not stagnant. 
You're just remaining married to

1072
00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:13,600
something that's freaking 
awesome. 

1073
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,040
Yeah, Come on, dude. 
Plain English here. 

1074
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,880
All right, let me get my guy. 
Jimmy C 3232. 

1075
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,480
Jim, that's very generous. 
Jeez, Jim. 

1076
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:21,960
Thank you, man. 
Appreciate. 

1077
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,600
Appreciate you and the show. 
BT I'm the same age as you from 

1078
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,880
Harrisburg. 
Pai think there used to be a lot

1079
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,160
of old WWE house shows in 
Harrisburg. 

1080
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,560
I know they did it in Allentown 
a lot. 

1081
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,480
I know they did it in 
Poughkeepsie, which is where 

1082
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,640
Marist is. 
I'm pretty sure Harrisburg was 

1083
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,040
really in that rotation in the 
Northeast as they before they 

1084
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,120
really started to expand. 
Anyway, many similar likes as 

1085
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,640
you, sports, movies, etcetera. 
I'm a Philly sports fan, but I 

1086
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,880
am and was a big Mattingly fan. 
Keep doing what you're doing. 

1087
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,240
Thank you very much, Jimmy. 
There's no doubt I'm going to, 

1088
00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:53,880
I'm going to keep doing what I'm
doing and and the support's 

1089
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,760
going to be there. 
We're going to grow, and this 

1090
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,040
will always be about the greater
good. 

1091
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,280
And, you know, not shoving 
political shit down your throat 

1092
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,360
and, and just, you know, listen,
when there's something to hit, 

1093
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,160
I'm going to hit it. 
But I do know that I know what 

1094
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:08,760
I'm about. 
And I know what this channel is 

1095
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:12,480
built on. 
And it's built on #1 having fun 

1096
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,520
#2 knowing what I'm talking 
about #3 amazing conversations 

1097
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,440
with guests. 
You know, as long as J Rod 

1098
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,680
doesn't mess up the production 
value, when I finally get this 

1099
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:27,000
ridiculous light off my head and
shine it off the backboard or 

1100
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,080
the backdrop there about making 
it look dope as well, the shorts

1101
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,080
and everything. 
Do you notice, J Rod, this is, 

1102
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:37,320
this is this is how I'm going to
look back and laugh at this. 

1103
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,120
Like I said, I really am. 
I am. 

1104
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:43,480
But now I know I told you this, 
so you do know it's a rhetorical

1105
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,240
question, so no need to try to 
fool anybody. 

1106
00:51:45,240 --> 00:51:47,960
But do you know, just play 
along. 

1107
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,840
Do you notice how we're on the 
same with the same height today?

1108
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,880
Jay, Rod, do you notice? 
No idea. 

1109
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,920
Big change, big change, major 
change. 

1110
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,520
You know, now, now it doesn't 
look like I'm taller than you. 

1111
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:04,920
Which when we finally meet in 
person, we'll be quickly What's 

1112
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,960
the word juxtapose? 
There we go, there we go, there 

1113
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,960
we yes, yes. 
Order will be restored when you 

1114
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:15,280
come out to the BT and Sal live 
show on April 2nd in Wantagh at 

1115
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,240
Mulcahy's Tickets. 
By the way, Carl Banks, our 

1116
00:52:17,240 --> 00:52:18,520
special guest, that's going to 
be phenomenal. 

1117
00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:20,960
Got some great stuff planned for
you, man. 

1118
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,360
The first one was a sellout. 
Tickets going well early so far.

1119
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,480
Check it out. 
It's all my socials and a couple

1120
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:28,800
of VIP packages. 
Whatever. 

1121
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,880
Meet me, Sal backstage, Carl. 
It really is a blast. 

1122
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,040
It is, it is, it is raw and it 
is uncensored. 

1123
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:36,800
BT and Sal. 
I mean, there's certain things 

1124
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:37,720
we just couldn't say on the 
radio. 

1125
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,000
But anyway, do you know how we 
did this? 

1126
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,280
I mean, wow, what what the the 
commitment to the show. 

1127
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:43,640
Look at this. 
He must have gone out and gotten

1128
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,120
some massively upgraded chair. 
Man, he is really all in. 

1129
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,400
Do you know how we finally got 
the I mean? 

1130
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:51,920
Do you want me? 
Do you want me to tell or do you

1131
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:52,960
want? 
To tell him, yeah, you, you 

1132
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,040
could tell him. 
You guys tell him. 

1133
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,280
This guy's sitting on a book. 
I'm sitting on a book. 

1134
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,240
Sitting on a book. 
Like classic grandma driving 

1135
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:02,960
back in the day. 
What? 

1136
00:53:03,240 --> 00:53:08,200
What book is it? 
Oh my gosh, that's AI mean. 

1137
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,280
That's kind of cool. 
It's a fat book, man. 

1138
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:11,880
That's a huge. 
That's like a dictionary. 

1139
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,040
Man, it's it's almost a little 
bit too thick to to really dive 

1140
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,520
into. 
I had AI got a cherry picket. 

1141
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,240
That's what I'm sitting on 
today. 

1142
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,080
So that's what I say. 
I'm going to look back. 

1143
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,320
And laugh at the the the oh. 
Geez, it's actually hurting my 

1144
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,960
ass, but whatever. 
Compared to the physical that I 

1145
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,240
had a week and 1/2 or so ago 
with the prostate, this is this 

1146
00:53:29,240 --> 00:53:30,800
is a walk in the park, man. 
I'll sit on. 

1147
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,600
I'll sit on a bed of nails 
rather than having that happen. 

1148
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,840
Again, you know Jesus, this. 
Is rough, yeah, but so that's 

1149
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,640
what I mean when I said we're 
going to look back the humble 

1150
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,400
beginnings of the show and have 
you ever done this mentioning 

1151
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,520
you know Rogan show and and the 
great Joe Rogan and what he's 

1152
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,280
done with this platform have you
ever seen some of his early 

1153
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,840
YouTube shows of. 
Course, dude, OK, When you have 

1154
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,840
like Joey Diaz and stuff like 
that and they would just be like

1155
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,520
trolling people. 
They were almost on like 

1156
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,640
recording on like Skype or 
something. 

1157
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:58,120
Skype. 
It. 

1158
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,160
Like it looked ridiculous. 
Yeah, of course. 

1159
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:06,080
OK, yeah, and the background and
just so you know, the camera. 

1160
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,000
Yeah. 
Yeah, it was rough, rough around

1161
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,320
the edges there. 
That's a good way to put it 

1162
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:11,840
there. 
All right, let me get this soup.

1163
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,800
Pop that super up there. 
And I want to get into what Shaq

1164
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,400
said I got. 
I got to get on my boy Shaq, who

1165
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,280
I absolutely one of my favorite 
people in the world. 

1166
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,120
I love Shaquille O'Neal he is. 
If there was more Shaqs in the 

1167
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,480
world, the world would be a 
better spot. 

1168
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,520
All right, at Clr 8810. 
Appreciate that, buddy. 

1169
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,960
Thank you. 
The Masters is definitely an 

1170
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,800
American tradition, no question 
about it. 

1171
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:31,600
I cried. 
I didn't cry. 

1172
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,160
I mean, that's a little bit 
much, but I, but I respected, I 

1173
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,240
cried when Tiger. 
Oh, you thought I thought you 

1174
00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:39,240
meant when he was I, I read that
wrong when he when he was 19. 

1175
00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:43,160
I, I got you. 
I didn't cry in 2019, but I was 

1176
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:48,160
as locked into that and I had 
emotion flowing through me that 

1177
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,000
I never thought that I would 
feel watching golf. 

1178
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,120
So I short of tears, but I, I 
feel you on that. 

1179
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,640
So anyway, my #4 would have been
the yeah, the Derby. 

1180
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,000
Absolutely love the show. 
I think that's one thing that 

1181
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,040
they don't mess around with is 
the Kentucky Derby. 

1182
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,040
The coverage is kind of still 
the same. 

1183
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,800
You know, the the pageantry 
around it has remained 

1184
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,720
relatively unchanged. 
I I think I got a funny one. 

1185
00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:10,800
Go ahead. 
What were you going to say? 

1186
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,080
No, no, no, I mean, you go, I 
was just going to say, yeah, it 

1187
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,800
is an event where it's kind of 
remained like Kentucky Derby, 

1188
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,320
but no one's talking about the 
Kentucky Kentucky Derby halftime

1189
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,840
show or pre game performance, 
something like that. 

1190
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:27,240
Like it's very much remain, you 
know, obviously there's oh, Tom 

1191
00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:29,920
Brady's there, oh this rapper's 
there or whatever. 

1192
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,840
And they're dressed up and 
there's that little, you know, 

1193
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,080
photo op, but it's still I feel 
like has remained the same 

1194
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:36,040
sporting. 
Event. 

1195
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,520
Yeah, I actually met my wife at 
the Kentucky Derby party. 

1196
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,920
No way that we met. 
Yep. 

1197
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:46,240
But it wasn't at no. 
No, no, no, no, it was, it was, 

1198
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,760
no, it was on the Upper West 
Side of my buddy Pete's nice 

1199
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,400
apartment there. 
And yeah, he told me not to get 

1200
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,480
too much into, but he's told me 
he's like, hey, this he's like, 

1201
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,360
yeah, I, I well, I can't get to 
the whole story. 

1202
00:55:58,360 --> 00:55:59,840
I just saw a picture. 
I'm like, I'm coming. 

1203
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,720
I mean, I was going to go anyway
and I'm going to, I'm going to 

1204
00:56:03,720 --> 00:56:05,720
give you actually, I will tell 
you this part, right. 

1205
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,640
So I was, yeah, obviously 
dating, whatever, having fun, 

1206
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,080
not now a couple serious 
girlfriends, but nothing crazy. 

1207
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:17,360
And I was, I was like almost at 
my wit's head because I was at 

1208
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,000
the point I'm like, man, I want 
to, I want to be a dad. 

1209
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,440
I want to get married. 
Like that's something I always, 

1210
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:24,120
I always wanted to have, right? 
And I was in my 30s. 

1211
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,200
I'm like, all right. 
I mean, you know, how much fun 

1212
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:30,640
can you have? 
And, and I remember playing golf

1213
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,960
that day and actually being in a
match and hit a great shot, 

1214
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,920
sticking it like, which I very 
rarely did, sticking it like 5 

1215
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:38,480
feet to the cup. 
It was me and my buddy Dan 

1216
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,080
versus two other guys for money.
Not not big money. 

1217
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:42,760
I wasn't even playing well, but 
I stick. 

1218
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,680
I stuck like A7 iron 5 feet from
the cup. 

1219
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,080
It was like alternate shot. 
He hit the putt we want. 

1220
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:48,800
It was awesome. 
So it was a good day and I knew 

1221
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,720
my buddy was having this 
Kentucky Derby party. 

1222
00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:52,760
I worked with him. 
He was on the sales side of ESPN

1223
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:54,840
and I was working at 10:50 at 
the time. 

1224
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:56,880
Pete, great guy, great guy. 
Still in touch with him too. 

1225
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,640
And, and I remember I'm like, 
man, yo, you got a, you got to 

1226
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,800
change your approach here, 
Meaning how you, how you, I 

1227
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,680
don't want, I don't say how you 
approach women, but just your 

1228
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,600
mindset. 
All right, So I go to the party.

1229
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:13,840
I'm like, you know, today's the 
day. 

1230
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,480
And there were a bunch of people
there and he kept texting me or 

1231
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:18,480
calling me. 
He's like, dude, where are you? 

1232
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,240
I live like 3 blocks away. 
I'm like, I'm watching the 

1233
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:21,560
Yankees. 
I'm like, I play golf. 

1234
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,800
I'll be there. 
I just, I wasn't really feeling 

1235
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,560
it. 
I knew I was going to go, but I 

1236
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:29,880
wasn't really feeling it right. 
And I'm like, all right, dude, I

1237
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,320
don't know what your 
expectations are. 

1238
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,240
It's not working. 
You haven't, you haven't fallen 

1239
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,360
in love yet to that extent in 
terms of where you want to get, 

1240
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,600
get, marry somebody. 
So long personal story short, 

1241
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:40,840
I'm at this party. 
I'm like, all right. 

1242
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,200
I remember having about 3 
conversations with three 

1243
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:49,560
different women, young women, 
right, dude, Like I, I yeah, I 

1244
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,960
got the numbers and like very 
smart. 

1245
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,840
I think one went to Georgetown. 
Well, that couldn't work. 

1246
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,200
Some St. 
John's guy, Georgetown grad, you

1247
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,200
know, maybe like a Lehigh, like 
really good schools, very smart,

1248
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,040
very interesting. 
I just wasn't feeling the 

1249
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,880
attraction. 
Like they weren't ugly, but they

1250
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:06,080
just weren't, they weren't doing
it. 

1251
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,800
And, you know, maybe you'd go 
out to dinner with one of these 

1252
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:14,520
and you see where it goes. 
And the irony is that that day, 

1253
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,680
and I, I swear to God, I'm not 
sensationalizing this, I changed

1254
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,280
my mindset as to how I was going
to at least go about and, and 

1255
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,200
approach my, my dating life. 
And three hours later and I was 

1256
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,760
kind of getting ready to leave. 
She walks in. 

1257
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:33,640
She walked into that party and I
was I, I was, I actually think I

1258
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,320
was sitting next to Michael Kay.
Kay was at the party. 

1259
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,200
Oh my gosh, yeah. 
That is incredible, man. 

1260
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,080
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
B TS got a lot of good stories. 

1261
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:43,280
Man, I wish I could tell you 
something. 

1262
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,480
So like you're talking about 
like this mindset change. 

1263
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:47,880
So like what? 
Like how? 

1264
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,000
Like what was that mindset? 
The mindset was, I'm just going 

1265
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,800
to be blunt. 
Stop, you know, stop looking at 

1266
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:54,720
beauty first. 
Like obviously I'm not going to,

1267
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,240
I'm not trying to disrespect 
anybody, but like, I'm not going

1268
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,960
to go up to a four out of a 10 
and yeah, try to get a number. 

1269
00:58:59,960 --> 00:59:02,440
But you know, I'm looking, I'm 
looking for 10s. 

1270
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,440
You know, I'm looking for nines 
9 1/2. 

1271
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,960
Let's go. 
This is high ceiling and and the

1272
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,400
floor is high too. 
So really it was just, it 

1273
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:17,040
really, it was a more mature, it
was a more mature venture into 

1274
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,480
maybe it's go beneath the 
surface a little bit, like if 

1275
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:24,920
she's A7 or A7 and 1/2, you 
know, maybe, but she's 

1276
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:28,760
incredibly interesting and she's
funny and all these other thing 

1277
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,160
which do matter by the way, they
really do. 

1278
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,400
But at that point, you know, 
let's face it, when somebody 

1279
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,160
walks into a bar or at a party, 
the first thing you recognize is

1280
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:38,840
how they look. 
And anybody who says, if that's 

1281
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,160
not true, you're full of shit, 
It's the first thing you notice.

1282
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,680
And that's the first thing that 
I, that I know, I still to this 

1283
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,840
day, you know, you know, that's 
what you notice. 

1284
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,800
So I went in there and with a 
different mindset and, and, and 

1285
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,800
that's why I believe in fate and
all those other things. 

1286
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,920
I can't prove this, but I 
believe if I would have gone in 

1287
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,920
there with the same. 
And I was always polite and a 

1288
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,000
gentleman. 
It's not like I was ever rude or

1289
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,280
to, to women, even if whatever 
at all ever. 

1290
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,880
It's not how I was raised. 
But I think if I would have gone

1291
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,000
there with the same mindset, 
like I, where's the hottie at? 

1292
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,840
Like where's she at? 
And I, and, and I didn't have 

1293
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,560
those 3 discussions, which, you 
know, one was interesting. 

1294
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,440
Well, I mean, they were all a 
little bit interesting. 

1295
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,920
So I learned a few things, but 
wasn't moving the needle, you 

1296
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,200
know what I'm saying? 
Like I who knows, maybe she 

1297
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:21,440
doesn't walk into the party that
night. 

1298
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,880
Yeah. 
I I really, I really believe 

1299
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,360
that that's. 
The butterfly effect right 

1300
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,800
there, I think. 
I think it takes everything. 

1301
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,520
I think it takes everything for 
everything to happen. 

1302
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,400
Yeah, I would agree with that. 
And that's why I remember you 

1303
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,440
and I were talking about this a 
few weeks ago on an overalls 

1304
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:39,240
Friday here on the show. 
And like the dating scene to me 

1305
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:44,840
now it's got to be toxic because
I remember, I mean like my 

1306
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,680
college girlfriend, we never 
once discussed politics ever. 

1307
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:53,120
And then even the couple before 
my my wife no, like I, I, I 

1308
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,320
think I knew which way they 
leaned, but I like I wasn't even

1309
01:00:56,320 --> 01:01:00,360
into it. 
Now, if you are dating, it's got

1310
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,520
to be the first thing that comes
up over dinner. 

1311
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:06,400
It must be and. 
It's got to be, but it's almost 

1312
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:10,080
like now there's like, I think 
with a lot of young people, I 

1313
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,520
mean, and potentially even 
myself included, I'm not going 

1314
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,640
to like keep myself out of this 
category. 

1315
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,880
Keep it real. 
But like, I think there's almost

1316
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:21,480
just like this unspoken 
agreement that you almost all 

1317
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,960
believe, believe the same crap 
like or like that you. 

1318
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,520
Yeah. 
Like, like, or at least with a 

1319
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,480
in New York City, like, I think 
it's a big thing with the people

1320
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,160
that I see that I'm interacting 
with where you just see someone,

1321
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,440
you go, OK, we probably think 
the same thing. 

1322
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,000
We're both young people. 
We're both in New York City. 

1323
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,960
Let's not even touch it. 
Let's not even touch this thing.

1324
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:46,320
Get incendiary, OK. 
You know, And OK. 

1325
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:47,920
So. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

1326
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:52,440
I think, I think for some 
people, you know, and it's, it's

1327
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,760
a person by person thing. 
I think for some people in my 

1328
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,880
generation, that's their life 
right there. 

1329
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,040
You know what I'm saying? 
Their, you know, their whole 

1330
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:03,400
life is trying to make them 
posture themselves up to the 

1331
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:07,080
high and be like, I'm the best, 
I'm the most moral, I'm the most

1332
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:11,000
politically correct. 
Yeah, and, and by the way, those

1333
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,960
are usually, those are the 
people who are usually full of 

1334
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,280
the most shit. 
Oh, easily, yeah. 

1335
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,880
I mean, what are you if if 
you're somebody who is trying to

1336
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,920
convince someone 100% of your 
opinion, yeah, your opinion's 

1337
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,080
probably not that that correct, 
You know what I mean? 

1338
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:27,960
I do, Well said. 
Yeah. 

1339
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,760
But The funny thing is like, you
know, just to tie it into the 

1340
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,760
dating thing, you know, go on 
like Hinge and, and stuff like 

1341
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,040
that. 
And, and granted, it's a dating 

1342
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,320
app, it's, I say it's like a 
little, it's, it's like a little

1343
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,880
more adult than Tinder. 
I don't know if you've heard of.

1344
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:46,000
Tinder, of course, I've heard 
of. 

1345
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:47,280
I've never. 
OK, I missed that one. 

1346
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:50,600
You know, that could have been 
fun. 

1347
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,440
But no, I I was never once on 
Tinder. 

1348
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:53,200
Never. 
Go ahead. 

1349
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,880
But yeah, like you'll see, you 
know, and I hate to say it. 

1350
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,240
Just say it's. 
Usually it's usually, you know, 

1351
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,560
more girls who are more 
left-leaning. 

1352
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:05,320
I got you. 
You could say it, do it. 

1353
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,280
It's it's not. 
No, no. 

1354
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,200
I mean, it's just that's the 
that's the thing. 

1355
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,280
As a young guy, you're like, oh 
man, am I going to say 

1356
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:12,840
something? 
Am I? 

1357
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:16,280
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Now you jump on, do you jump on 

1358
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,160
J Date? 
Is J Date still a thing for the 

1359
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,840
in the Jewish community or no? 
No, not really. 

1360
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,400
You know, a bunch of my buddies 
do it. 

1361
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,280
There were a couple of my 
friends who are Jewish, who are 

1362
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:26,880
divorced. 
Who, who, who. 

1363
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:31,040
Yeah, it's it's a very viable. 
Outlet form I could see for 

1364
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:35,000
older people but my generation 
is pretty straight like now. 

1365
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,000
Hinge is like, you know, 
hindering Tinder. 

1366
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,280
Tinder was more college kind of 
deal. 

1367
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,760
Well, Tinder was a meat market. 
Tinder was hooked up and that's 

1368
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,520
it, you know so. 
Like like, but Hinge is more 

1369
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,320
like, you know, you're, you're 
starting a little dialogue. 

1370
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,440
Then there's like, oh man, 
you'll love this one Bumble 

1371
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,320
where the where the girl has to 
message you first. 

1372
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:58,440
Oh yeah, the first move there. 
I will say Bumble usually is a 

1373
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,520
pretty dry dry one. 
But yeah, I'm usually on. 

1374
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,400
I'm usually on Hinge now and. 
Hinge. 

1375
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,160
It sounds like more like 
unhinged. 

1376
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,200
Yeah, honestly, that's it's 
closer to that. 

1377
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,920
All right. 
Because there they'll like throw

1378
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,400
like you better believe what I 
believe. 

1379
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,680
If we're going to like, it'll be
like the one thing because you 

1380
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,440
it has prompts and it'll be like
the one thing I look for in a 

1381
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,040
guy. 
Yeah, he's conservative. 

1382
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:24,040
I got you. 
I got you. 

1383
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,560
Yeah, it used to. 
Here's what it used to be. 

1384
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,240
Here's what they used to look 
for. 

1385
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:32,040
I don't know good guy, I don't 
know a family man, I don't know 

1386
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,520
a stable job that's. 
What I'm saying like these 

1387
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,840
chicks don't even care if a guy 
has a job anymore. 

1388
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:40,960
I know even like on the list 
maybe maybe on that list, like, 

1389
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:42,840
I don't know, well in doubt. 
I mean, I don't even think that 

1390
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,600
that matters anymore. 
As long as you believe what they

1391
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,560
believe, it doesn't matter. 
As long as you can go, yes, 

1392
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,600
you're right. 
Yes, that's. 

1393
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:55,720
It I got a what a fuck I'm sorry
for what a fucked up, what a 

1394
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,160
fucked up generation, man, I'm 
sorry. 

1395
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,680
I don't know about both. 
Everybody's turning nuts. 

1396
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,280
Can you get that, J Rod? 
Get that off the screen for me, 

1397
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:04,800
buddy. 
Thank you, Sir. 

1398
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,320
Now, let me set this up. 
Shaq. 

1399
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:09,240
Shaq. 
I love Shaq. 

1400
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:13,400
He is the best. 
He is just unbelievable. 

1401
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,200
He is real. 
He is generous. 

1402
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:22,040
He is transparent, he is so 
caring, he is affable, he is 

1403
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,080
smart. 
I mean, he's really one of my 

1404
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,080
can you tell? 
I mean, what a what a scout 

1405
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:27,840
report. 
He's one of he's one of my 

1406
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:32,200
favorite people in the public, 
you know, spectre spotlight in 

1407
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,600
the world, because he gets it. 
He just gets it all. 

1408
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,080
He's more about common sense 
anyway. 

1409
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:37,720
I'm not not even to delve back 
into that stuff. 

1410
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:42,760
I but I do love the guy right. 
So as much I love Shaq, this is 

1411
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,520
one of the dumbest things and 
Shaq, like Mike Charles and all 

1412
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,160
of us say dumb things on 
occasion. 

1413
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,840
This has to be the dumbest thing
that I've ever seen him put his 

1414
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,120
name next to. 
Now let's get the graphic up. 

1415
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,000
Shaq was rocking through his top
ten. 

1416
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:59,880
There it is Shaq's that was I 
saw this on X last night and 

1417
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:01,800
courtesy, we're not trying to 
steal anybody's stuff. 

1418
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:06,200
All right, do the right thing 
fast break hoops on X Shaq's top

1419
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:10,120
10 greatest players of all time.
All right, MJ one Kobe 2. 

1420
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:11,880
We're going to keep this up for 
a while because I'm going to run

1421
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,520
through this. 
Kobe 2, LeBron 3, Magic Bill 

1422
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,720
Russell, Will Chamberlain, Larry
Bird, Hakeem, who I think is the

1423
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:19,800
most grossly underrated 
superstar. 

1424
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,440
So I wouldn't have an 8, but I 
do respect him being on the 

1425
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,600
list. 
Timmy Duncan, Doctor J, and I'm 

1426
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,240
sure if you'd have to count, I 
would think that Jack would be 

1427
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:32,680
counting ABA and NBA. 
All right, I'm sorry, I know 

1428
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:36,360
it's subjective, but any list 
that does not have Kareem on 

1429
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:40,120
this is 100% invalidated. 
It just is. 

1430
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,040
It's just not interesting. 
It's not right. 

1431
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,360
It's not fair. 
It's not reflective of what 

1432
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:51,320
actually transpired. 
Now Kareem Six time champion, 

1433
01:06:51,720 --> 01:07:01,320
six time MVP, 2 times Finals 
MVP, 15 time All NBA, 19 time 

1434
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:07,000
All Star, eleven time All 
Defensive Team, 9 Rookie of the 

1435
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:11,800
year, 2 scoring titles and has 
made take away foul shots and 

1436
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,040
threes. 
Has made the most field goals in

1437
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:18,200
the history of the game and the 
most indefensible shot in the 

1438
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:22,200
history of basketball. 
It's it's Kareem Abdul Jabbar. 

1439
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,640
Now, this is obviously a little 
petty on Shaq's part, which I 

1440
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,120
have an issue with. 
All right, You know, I don't 

1441
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:32,080
think that Shaq I know, didn't 
really feel the love or the 

1442
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:35,520
welcome mat from Kareem when he 
went to LA because Kareem's not 

1443
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,720
that guy. 
Like when was the last time you 

1444
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:41,680
saw or heard Kareem talk about, 
you know, somebody's crossover 

1445
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:45,040
move or like what it Kareem is 
all about? 

1446
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:49,640
Like world matters and deeply 
relevant, you know, topical 

1447
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:52,480
societal things. 
I quick aside, I remember I 

1448
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:55,400
don't know if I said this on 
here years ago. 

1449
01:07:55,400 --> 01:08:00,960
Well, the year, oh God, it was 
early 2000s because Chris Paul 

1450
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,840
was at Wake Forest. 
And I remember interviewing 

1451
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,640
Chris on my on my show and he 
was wearing a Yankee hat and he 

1452
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:08,080
wound up coming out and I was 
trying to get him. 

1453
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:09,400
Hey, you coming out and he 
wouldn't tell me. 

1454
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,960
But anyway, it was that one. 
So whatever year Chris Paul was 

1455
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:16,240
drafted, I forget he was this 
was the year so and I had Kareem

1456
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,920
on and a lot of people, because 
I was younger and a lot of 

1457
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,120
people that I knew of the 
business like be careful. 

1458
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:22,800
Kareem's trick. 
He's a tough interview. 

1459
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:24,720
You know, he doesn't really, 
really care. 

1460
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,200
Basketball is not that important
to him. 

1461
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:27,720
And I'm sitting here saying 
what? 

1462
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:32,120
It's Kareem Abdul Jabbar. 
I would talk basketball and and 

1463
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,600
I I heeded that advice and I 
actually talked a lot, not 

1464
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:40,680
politics, but a lot of more, you
know, less inflamed societal 

1465
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,840
matters at the at the top to get
him engaged. 

1466
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,120
And then we moved to the 
basketball stuff and it was a 

1467
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,760
home run. 
And I remember a lot of people, 

1468
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,160
because it was back on 1050 ESPN
Radio, a lot of people that 

1469
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,520
heard that, you know, some older
people in the business, they're 

1470
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,680
like, that's really one of the 
best Kareem interviews I've ever

1471
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:57,200
heard, or at least heard in a 
while. 

1472
01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,520
Like you got him to, to actually
talk and, and be human. 

1473
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,840
So listen, Kareem's a very 
unique and, and for some 

1474
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:07,359
confounding figure, I'm just 
talking about the greatest 

1475
01:09:07,359 --> 01:09:09,439
players of all time. 
Now it's Shack's list. 

1476
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,080
So I'm, I'm not here to really 
shit all over it, but I can't 

1477
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:13,479
take it seriously. 
Now. 

1478
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,560
If you even if Kareem was 9, I'd
be like, dude, what are you 

1479
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,880
doing now? 
He excludes himself, which is 

1480
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:20,080
smart. 
He's humble there. 

1481
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:21,800
And I don't think Shaq's a top 
ten player. 

1482
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,359
I don't. 
And all due respect, and I love 

1483
01:09:24,359 --> 01:09:26,000
him and I miss him and rest in 
peace. 

1484
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,479
I wish Kobe was around to talk 
about the world now because I 

1485
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:31,880
think he would be a real 
injection of sensibility both 

1486
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:35,560
ways. 
But Kobe is not a top ten NBA 

1487
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:39,240
basketball player of all times. 
Just not Jordan's won for me. 

1488
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:40,279
I'll go through my list in a 
minute. 

1489
01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:42,319
Obviously, MJS up there, 
Lebron's up there. 

1490
01:09:42,319 --> 01:09:44,960
Magic's on it, Russell's on it, 
Wilts on it, Birds on it. 

1491
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,439
I do think Duncan should be on 
it. 

1492
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:50,680
Probably 10 for me. 
I think Hakeem would be more 11 

1493
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,080
or 12. 
I think Doctor J would be more 

1494
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:58,160
in that 151617 range myself. 
Who else did I have there? 

1495
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:00,360
Want to make sure I'm not 
Steph's got to enter the 

1496
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,400
equation. 
Oscar Robertson. 

1497
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:07,440
Shaq would be inside my top 15. 
But it's just it is amazing to 

1498
01:10:07,440 --> 01:10:12,840
me how he is not on Shaq's list.
We could get this off there. 

1499
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,680
Now, J Rod, you never saw Kareem
outside of highlights. 

1500
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:21,920
I saw I saw old Kareem. 
Now, funny thing about Kareem, I

1501
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,400
thought Kareem and I don't mean 
this in a disparaging way, but 

1502
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,680
it's it's the most colorful way 
for me to describe his game, not

1503
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,560
his, not his personality as I 
didn't, I didn't process his 

1504
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:33,160
personality as a kid. 
I just didn't. 

1505
01:10:33,480 --> 01:10:38,200
I remember God, I must have been
in the 1st grade and in the 1st 

1506
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,920
grade, this before I started 
playing travel baseball. 

1507
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:44,640
My dad coached my first and 2nd 
and and 3rd and then he stopped 

1508
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:48,920
baseball church team, right. 
And back then, you know, you get

1509
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,120
the uniforms. 
Some kids would wear jeans like 

1510
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,760
there was no swag. 
Somebody like Brennan and Carr, 

1511
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,920
which was is great, would 
sponsor A-Team or some local 

1512
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,480
pharmacist, whatever, a 
restaurant maybe. 

1513
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,840
And anyway, you'd get the 
jerseys and you'd get like a bat

1514
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:04,960
or two and like two or three 
helmets and a couple of balls 

1515
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,680
and a scoring book and maybe 
home plate or bases, like those 

1516
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,840
soft bases in a big green Army 
bag. 

1517
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,800
That absolutely was from 
Vietnam, no doubt in my mind it 

1518
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:17,800
came from Vietnam, right. 
And, and I guess it was maybe 

1519
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:20,400
after first grade and my dad had
a basketball in there for some 

1520
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:21,840
reason, right? 
I was just starting to get into 

1521
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,640
basketball and I remember taking
out the ball and, and like, and 

1522
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,080
I was horrible, horrible. 
Or, and even when I became 

1523
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:28,240
decent, I never had a good 
handle. 

1524
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,480
I was a shooter and a really 
good passer, but I couldn't 

1525
01:11:30,480 --> 01:11:32,680
dribble for shit. 
And I, but I remember, you know,

1526
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:36,160
dribbling in the basement and 
the basketball, it was a Kareem 

1527
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:41,760
Abdul Jabbar basketball, right? 
OK, so I and I didn't see Kareem

1528
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,360
play much because they only 
played the Knicks twice. 

1529
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,240
When they played the Knicks out 
West, it was late and I was too 

1530
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:50,480
young to stay up. 
I don't think I had MSG at that 

1531
01:11:50,480 --> 01:11:52,160
point. 
I saw a lot of the all the Knick

1532
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:55,280
Rd. games were on Channel 9. 
So I and I'd see Kareem once in 

1533
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:58,200
a while, like in the mid 80s as 
I got older, you know, against 

1534
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,600
the Celtics on a Sunday, big 
game of the week, stuff like 

1535
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:01,800
that. 
And then obviously the playoffs 

1536
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,520
in the Finals, which I was into 
certainly at that point. 

1537
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,280
But I thought Kareem was a 
complete geek on the band. 

1538
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,400
Like I I looked into. 
Yeah, I want to. 

1539
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,960
I want to back that up because 
it's not a shot at him as a 

1540
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:16,440
person at all. 
I looked at Kareem and I'm like,

1541
01:12:16,440 --> 01:12:20,280
this guy's everything about this
game, this guy's game is goofy. 

1542
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:25,440
Like there's nothing cool about 
Kareem goggles, You know, socks 

1543
01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:27,200
up to his knee. 
A lot of guys wore high socks, 

1544
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,560
but socks up to his knees didn't
have cool sneakers. 

1545
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:32,880
Like he was rocking LA gears at 
one point. 

1546
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:34,440
LA gear. 
You ever hear LA gear? 

1547
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:35,640
Not at all, man. 
I. 

1548
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,800
Didn't think so. 
By the way, do a quick Google 

1549
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,120
image and then maybe if you 
can't pop it up on the screen. 

1550
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:42,640
LA gear. 
Kareem's right. 

1551
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,240
They were Kareem's brand, right?
Everybody? 

1552
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,800
Jordan, you got, you know, 
Dominique with sick kicks, 

1553
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:52,480
Isaiah, you know, Bernard King 
Bird with the Converse weapons 

1554
01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:54,800
or Mark Aguire like I was a 
sneaker head, right? 

1555
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:56,360
And we'll do a show on sneakers 
at some point. 

1556
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,880
My old time favorite. 
But Kareem, everything about 

1557
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:02,960
him, he shot the skyhook like we
would go to the schoolyard and 

1558
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:04,800
then eventually my backyard when
I got a hoop. 

1559
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,920
And you know, we as soon as you 
get the ball, like you drive to 

1560
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:10,800
the rim and you'd do like a 
double pump and you'd yell 

1561
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:14,440
Jordan, you know, Dominique, 
when we lower it and try to dunk

1562
01:13:14,440 --> 01:13:16,200
it backwards. 
I was a horrible dunker too, 

1563
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,760
because I had no UPS, right? 
But when it was low enough I 

1564
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:23,080
could hammer it and like Kareem 
had 0 appeal to me. 

1565
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:28,000
Aesthetically he was boring, he 
was gangly, he was goofy. 

1566
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:32,080
He just didn't seem cool at or 
there was nothing that resonated

1567
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:36,560
coolness about Kareem at all. 
So I didn't like him. 

1568
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,360
Again, it was never personal. 
Didn't didn't like his game. 

1569
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,440
I thought it was whash when I 
was a kid. 

1570
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:46,320
And you know, so for me to come 
out and always defend him 

1571
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:50,240
because he always gets omitted 
by far too many people, you know

1572
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,920
that that's really important to 
me for Kareem not to be on 

1573
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:56,760
Shaq's list and for Kareem's not
Kareem not to be on anybody's 

1574
01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:00,640
number 3 minimally. 
All right, if you're a LeBron 

1575
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,040
guy over Jordan, you're nuts. 
But whatever, that's your 

1576
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,520
opinion. 
If you're a LeBron guy over 

1577
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,720
Kareem, all right, you're nuts, 
but that's your opinion. 

1578
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,480
But if he's not in the top 
three, you're a clueless 

1579
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,200
basketball clown. 
You know nothing about the game.

1580
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:17,560
Yeah, no, I mean, and even 
obviously me who I didn't even 

1581
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:19,560
see Jordan play, I didn't see 
Kareem play. 

1582
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,960
You gotta just throw them up in 
there just cuz it's Kareem Abdul

1583
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,040
freaking Jabbar like. 
Dude. 

1584
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:27,520
Literally lost how many games in
college 2? 

1585
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:29,360
I think it was one or two, 
something like that. 

1586
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:31,840
Yeah, I don't like that. 
Look at those things. 

1587
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,440
I mean, tears kind of cool 
though, like. 

1588
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,960
Stop, dude. 
Really, I think they kind of 

1589
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,000
remind me of like the Reebok 
Classics. 

1590
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:41,800
Like they've got I. 
Had those, I had those. 

1591
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:42,880
They've. 
Got something to them? 

1592
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,000
Well, you know, good job finding
that too. 

1593
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,280
I was in my mind, in my minds 
eye. 

1594
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,520
I actually remember him wearing 
high tops. 

1595
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:51,760
You don't have to look forward. 
It's all good LA gear. 

1596
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:55,800
High tops, which were, even if 
you could believe it, less cool 

1597
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:56,360
than those. 
Oh. 

1598
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:58,240
Dude, these are bad. 
Yeah. 

1599
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:01,480
Like bad bad bad cool or bad 
shit bad shit bad. 

1600
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:03,080
Ugly. 
Pretty ugly. 

1601
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:04,800
Pop them up. 
You got something? 

1602
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:06,120
Can you pop them up? 
It's like. 

1603
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:07,920
EBay listing it's going to these
were. 

1604
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:11,080
Wack. 30s. 
God, dude, his I mean, everybody

1605
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,920
wore nut huggers back then 
except Jordan, but his shorts 

1606
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:16,880
were so tight. 
Even the way his wristband like 

1607
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:20,040
he wore, like he tape his wrist 
and and you know, and that's not

1608
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:23,720
because it wasn't my generation.
And I found none of those guys 

1609
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,640
cool. 
Like even the ABA footage of 

1610
01:15:27,440 --> 01:15:31,440
George Gervin and Doctor J, you 
know, even Rick Barry going to 

1611
01:15:31,440 --> 01:15:33,960
the rim, like those guys were 
cool, man. 

1612
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:35,720
They like Dan Isel could play. 
Look at these. 

1613
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:39,040
Look at these clunkers, man. 
Look at them like the they're 

1614
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:42,680
like a fake Jordan 5. 
Look at those guys, what are 

1615
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:46,880
they selling for on eBay that? 
Pair is. 

1616
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:52,000
Let's see, I mean, I would 
imagine a decent amount, right? 

1617
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,800
Like you? 
No, only 120 bucks size 12 1/2. 

1618
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:58,240
Size 12 1/2 a little bit better 
wear 11 and a half 12. 

1619
01:15:58,240 --> 01:15:59,400
So I'm not that I'd buy them 
anyway. 

1620
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:01,440
I've got one more homework 
assignment for you. 

1621
01:16:01,440 --> 01:16:04,960
Got to pop these up real quick. 
Now my dad, even though as I've 

1622
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,600
said a lot when I was like 
young, just before he opened his

1623
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,000
business, like, you know it, I 
always had the best stuff, but 

1624
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:13,560
it wasn't easy for him to pay 
for it at all up until I was 

1625
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,880
about 13 was when he opened his 
business. 

1626
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:20,280
And then things changed. 
Not crazy crazy, but definitely 

1627
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:21,800
changing our house for the for 
the better. 

1628
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:23,800
Right. 
But even with that being said, 

1629
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,360
you know, and bats weren't 
nearly as exorbitant as they are

1630
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:28,000
now. 
My son's bat was 400 plus 

1631
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:31,440
dollars for this year, 400. 
Yeah. 

1632
01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:33,000
And that you outgrow them after 
a year. 

1633
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:35,880
It's crazy, right? 
The cleats were $1.30. 

1634
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:37,120
I mean, anyway, I'm not 
complaining. 

1635
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:41,720
It is what it is, but and I 
always had fresh kicks man Santa

1636
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:45,800
brought them always had cool 
sneakers, but I do remember and 

1637
01:16:46,480 --> 01:16:51,080
they were the the dime store 
version of Air Jordans and I did

1638
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:53,000
have air jordans too. 
For sure I had the first pair 

1639
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:58,320
right look for spud webs. 
This is old school man. 

1640
01:16:58,320 --> 01:16:59,400
You guys are going to love this 
here. 

1641
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:03,840
Wait till you see this pop on 
the screen Spud webs city wings,

1642
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:06,440
black and red and they were low 
cut. 

1643
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:08,600
They were. 
These were low cut. 

1644
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:12,480
Spud Webb obviously won the dunk
contest about 55. 

1645
01:17:14,440 --> 01:17:15,760
Oh. 
Look at these. 

1646
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:19,320
Boys, hold on, give me a quick. 
Second, they had the pony yeah, 

1647
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:19,920
I got you. 
I got you. 

1648
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,960
I got. 
They had like the Pony V and 

1649
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:24,880
they came with all sorts of 
colors. 

1650
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:28,240
And if the Jordans were. 
What are your thoughts on these?

1651
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:29,360
Like, do you? 
Think I like them. 

1652
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:30,400
OK? 
Yeah, same. 

1653
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:33,480
I like them. 
Yeah, I like them. 

1654
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:36,400
The problem was if you had them,
you'd get clowned because, you 

1655
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:39,560
know, you can't afford Jordans 
all look at those knock off 

1656
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:40,960
Jordans. 
What, your dad can't afford 

1657
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,040
Jordans? 
And and I had the Jordans, but 

1658
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:46,120
you didn't want to wear those in
games like like I tell you what,

1659
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,600
if if they were on eBay, I 
wouldn't get used ones. 

1660
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:52,200
But if I could actually find 
them somewhere and and they had 

1661
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,400
like an 11 1/2 or 12, I would 
get them. 

1662
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,560
I would wear those with jeans. 
Hell yeah, I would wear those 

1663
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:01,040
who like I'm an ankle sock guy. 
I can't wear socks, but I just I

1664
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,840
don't like that look at all. 
Oh God, dude, that's our big 

1665
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:05,120
disagreement right there. 
I know. 

1666
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:08,360
I know my screw sock guy. 
I know my son too. 

1667
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:10,680
He plays basketball. 
He's got like the black ones 

1668
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:14,680
that come back, you know, up up 
to like maybe mid calf, not even

1669
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:16,720
know below that, but like more 
about you know what, you know 

1670
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:18,800
the ones I'm talking about. 
I'm like, yo, you don't you 

1671
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:21,240
don't know what style is. 
You got to go, you got to go. 

1672
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,320
No sock look, man. 
But anyway, there a lot of kids 

1673
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,000
wear them like he does. 
I would wear those with the with

1674
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,800
the ankle sock and and jeans or 
shorts or, you know, something 

1675
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,640
like baggy shorts in the summer.
Those were actually pretty dope.

1676
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:35,320
But the difference in price 
point like Jordans were about 

1677
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:40,080
100 and those were probably 
3999, maybe even a little bit 

1678
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:41,760
cheaper, maybe a little bit 
cheaper. 

1679
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,880
Did you did you ever get the OR 
do you remember the Marbury? 

1680
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:47,960
'S strawberries. 
Strawberries. 

1681
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:51,360
Well, I mean, yeah, I I mean 
never. 

1682
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:54,320
I don't think I've ever seen 
them even in in person with my 

1683
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:57,200
own eyes. 
Probably maybe a Foot Locker. 

1684
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:58,440
I don't. 
I don't think they carry them. 

1685
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:02,120
No, I think, no, I think it was 
Kmart or what are those stores? 

1686
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:03,520
I think it was. 
Right, right. 

1687
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,240
They would have the big white 
clunky because it would be like 

1688
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:09,400
the star berries and the shacks 
would kind of be in a similar 

1689
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,000
department. 
That's when Shack. 

1690
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:12,320
Was down the. 
Reebok. 

1691
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:13,760
Reebok. 
Yeah, Reebok. 

1692
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,720
Because I think he did Reebok 
and then I think he also did his

1693
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:21,800
own shoe brand called Just 
Shacks, where instead of the 

1694
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:25,040
Reebok logo, yeah, it was just 
like. 

1695
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:27,280
Hanging, hanging on the rib. 
Those were dope. 

1696
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,360
I'm going to have one more than 
I want to get back to this old 

1697
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,400
time list here the look these 
up. 

1698
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:34,600
Now you got to understand back 
in the day, it was a challenge 

1699
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:37,840
to find different colored scheme
sneakers. 

1700
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:40,240
I'm talking about in the mid 
80s, late 80s, even in the early

1701
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,360
90s. 
Like it just wasn't easy, right?

1702
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:50,520
So my CYO team was for about 5 
or 6 years gold and green. 

1703
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:54,120
Not easy to find right now, not 
easy. 

1704
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,440
Now one year I wore the the 
black and white. 

1705
01:19:56,440 --> 01:19:57,960
Do you remember the converse 
weapons? 

1706
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,280
Those fresh, OK. 
I like those a lot. 

1707
01:20:00,480 --> 01:20:02,720
Converse weapons were money. 
I love them right. 

1708
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:06,560
So I I would wear the black and 
white bird ones with the green 

1709
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,320
and gold uniform. 
That was a good look because 

1710
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,440
kind of like Bird Celtics. 
Yeah, definitely. 

1711
01:20:10,440 --> 01:20:14,200
OK. 
But then there was oh God, 

1712
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:17,200
Xavier McDaniel when he was with
the Seattle SuperSonics. 

1713
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:20,760
Those old school uni's right and
green and gold color scheme. 

1714
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,440
This before Gary Payton and and 
Detler shrimp and those guys and

1715
01:20:23,440 --> 01:20:27,680
obviously Sean Kemp and it was 
either Etonic. 

1716
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:29,360
Have you ever heard of you've 
heard of running shoes? 

1717
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:32,480
Probably Etonics, right? 
Let me see. 

1718
01:20:32,480 --> 01:20:34,880
Maybe that's all good. 
If you have nobody or Brooks, 

1719
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:42,680
type in Xavier Mcdan the golden 
green Xavier McDaniel sneakers 

1720
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:47,840
from 80 whatever and I finally. 
There's a crazy pair right here,

1721
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:51,840
the Etonic Hakeem ones. 
I remember those. 

1722
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:53,880
These are hideous, but I 
remember those. 

1723
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:55,840
We pull up the Xavier McDaniel. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1724
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:57,520
And it was really hard to get 
those. 

1725
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:59,480
And the way that I think that I 
got those, there used to be a 

1726
01:20:59,480 --> 01:21:02,560
catalog that that would come to 
the to our home. 

1727
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,120
And that's that's where I 
started getting like my. 

1728
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:06,040
Should I pull the black or green
ones up? 

1729
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:08,520
Which one you talking about, 
Xavier? 

1730
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:10,640
Xavier McDaniel. 
Yeah, go to the, go to the 

1731
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:15,480
greenies. 
OK Yeah, yeah, when I found 

1732
01:21:15,480 --> 01:21:17,720
these and I, the way I was able 
to fuck is they didn't have 

1733
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:19,640
them. 
Like Dick's wasn't around. 

1734
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:23,080
And there was the store Herman's
and Kings Plaza on Flatbush 

1735
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,840
Ave., where I'd get all my stuff
from, like an all-purpose 

1736
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:29,200
sporting goods store. 
And maybe in like the late 80s, 

1737
01:21:29,440 --> 01:21:31,000
I think it might be around 
maybe. 

1738
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:34,320
You ever hear of East Bay? 
It's like yeah of. 

1739
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:36,200
Course. 
Yeah, you've heard of East Bay 

1740
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:37,800
it. 
It it still exists as like a 

1741
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,320
sneaker retailer I. 
Believe nice, wow, good for 

1742
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:41,520
them. 
That's where I would start 

1743
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:44,040
getting like some funky cleats 
in college, like different color

1744
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:46,280
schemes, but because that's when
things were starting to explode 

1745
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:48,200
a little bit. 
But I remember when I finally 

1746
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:49,920
found the ones that you're 
efforting to find. 

1747
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:53,120
That shouldn't take that long, 
buddy, the Xavier McDaniels. 

1748
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,960
I'm just look at those guys, 
look at that. 

1749
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,720
OK, no, no, no, no, they're not,
but that's so keep it up. 

1750
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:03,120
Those are spot builds. 
Wow, look at those spot builds 

1751
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,480
They had. 
My buddy had the Brooks and spot

1752
01:22:05,480 --> 01:22:07,480
builds and those were absolutely
wild. 

1753
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:09,040
You don't have to go nuts 
finding it, buddy. 

1754
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:11,120
It's all good. 
This will be, this is just a 

1755
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:15,040
little foreshadow of additional 
BT Unleashed content. 

1756
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:17,360
My all time top ten favorite 
sneakers. 

1757
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:19,680
That's going to be great. 
That's going to be great. 

1758
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,440
And I remember when I finally 
got the green and gold ones, 

1759
01:22:22,440 --> 01:22:25,480
they were so hard to find. 
I got them on East Bay and when 

1760
01:22:25,480 --> 01:22:28,440
they finally came to the house, 
because it would take like weeks

1761
01:22:28,440 --> 01:22:31,640
and weeks and weeks, man, it was
like it wasn't Christmas, but it

1762
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:34,080
felt like Christmas. 
All right, let me ask you this 

1763
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:37,320
and then I'll give you mine. 
Based on Shaq's list, which is 

1764
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:40,400
ridiculous to not have cream on 
there, Who are your top five 

1765
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,440
players of all time? 
I just somebody your age. 

1766
01:22:42,440 --> 01:22:44,600
I want to hear how you process 
now in history. 

1767
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:45,560
Go ahead. 
So. 

1768
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:48,600
So I'm throwing historical 
figures in there as well, right?

1769
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:53,200
You can do whatever you think 
encompasses, you know, mostly 

1770
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:55,800
that that will best represent 
your top five. 

1771
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:57,880
I like the history. 
You know, I'm a history guy, so.

1772
01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:59,640
Yeah, I'll throw history. 
I'll throw people. 

1773
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,240
I haven't seen that. 
OK, so I'll go Jordan 1. 

1774
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,200
Yep. 
I'll go LeBron too. 

1775
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:06,400
OK, I'll go. 
Kareem 3. 

1776
01:23:06,480 --> 01:23:08,400
OK, I'll go. 
Magic 4. 

1777
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:13,760
OK, and I'll go. 
Oh man. 

1778
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:15,880
That's a good list so far. 
I mean, I was going to go. 

1779
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:20,080
It's for me. 
It's kind of a rotating wheel 

1780
01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:23,480
bird. 
Russell Bird. 

1781
01:23:23,480 --> 01:23:27,160
Yeah, no, OK. 
He'll be in my top ten. 

1782
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:30,600
I just think I just think about 
you totally different era like 

1783
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:34,160
no question comparing eras that 
Bill Russell eras I know. 

1784
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:36,680
Yeah, but think about hold on. 
But Jay, I hear you. 

1785
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:39,320
But think about like when we 
talk about all time baseball 

1786
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:42,080
players, you get Babe Ruth and 
Willie Mays and Hank Aaron and 

1787
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,080
those old timers. 
So I mean, that's just my 

1788
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:45,640
mindset. 
I always try to reflect 

1789
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,320
everything that happened, but 
it's subjective. 

1790
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:50,040
So what about Wilt? 
Throw Wilt out there. 

1791
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,560
Not at my, not at my fifth spot.
I just think with the 1 

1792
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,760
championship, I think you got to
throw some more modern guys 

1793
01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:00,920
above Kobe in that list. 
Kobe, yeah, Not for me, but. 

1794
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:04,720
He's in my he's like, he would 
maybe crack my top ten. 

1795
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:08,280
I just think what he's got, you 
know, 1 MVP, how many finals? 

1796
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:09,240
Yeah, but he should have had the
same. 

1797
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:10,440
Steve Nash should not have won 
that. 

1798
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:12,040
That was a joke. 
Fair, fair. 

1799
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:13,240
But But he's got one. 
True. 

1800
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:15,080
So I just think it's different. 
What? 

1801
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:16,720
About Duncan? 
What about Tim Duncan? 

1802
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:18,360
That he was going to be my five 
guy. 

1803
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,880
He was going to be my #5 guy. 
Just think the five 

1804
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:24,120
championships potential, you 
know, a city. 

1805
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:27,640
It could have been a six ring if
not for the Ray Allen. 

1806
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:31,960
I'm going to go Tim Duncan as my
five guy and just go Jordan, 

1807
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:36,080
LeBron, Kareem, Magic, Duncan. 
I think that's a really good 

1808
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,680
list for somebody your age and 
I'm not pushing back. 

1809
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:42,200
I just I have a question that I 
want your answer on because you 

1810
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,520
never saw MJ that which is 
amazing, amazing to be because 

1811
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:45,920
the kid never saw Michael 
Jordan. 

1812
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:48,520
My God, nice being young. 
Although you did miss out. 

1813
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:53,160
You never saw MJ. 
Was there any consideration 

1814
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:55,040
because many people your age put
LeBron 1. 

1815
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:56,880
I mean, I think it's I think 
it's blasphemous. 

1816
01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,920
Somebody my age, I. 
Don't need you to blow up on. 

1817
01:24:59,960 --> 01:25:02,640
No, no, I won't manage your list
dude. 

1818
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:11,400
No, I'm going honestly, I take 
Jordan over LeBron simply for 

1819
01:25:11,480 --> 01:25:13,000
almost like this. 
The. 

1820
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:17,760
Breath that Jordan is left with 
the game like after after LeBron

1821
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:21,680
retires, obviously he'll be 
spoken of as one of the greats, 

1822
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:26,880
as top three, but it won't have 
that same that same weight that 

1823
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:31,440
same, you know, 500 LB ton 
weight that Jordan's name. 

1824
01:25:31,440 --> 01:25:33,640
Carries I agree with. 
The name of with the game of 

1825
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:37,920
basketball, I agree, no. 
And with LeBron, I think in 

1826
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,960
terms of as good, like I think 
he's as good of a basketball 

1827
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,120
player as anybody in terms of 
his skill. 

1828
01:25:43,480 --> 01:25:46,600
But in terms of greatness, in 
terms of what that name 

1829
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:50,080
represents for basketball, I 
just think you got to put Jordan

1830
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:50,440
first. 
There. 

1831
01:25:50,440 --> 01:25:51,680
Well, what about this? 
Fair enough. 

1832
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:57,560
OK, So if if that's part of the 
evaluation, like your impact 

1833
01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:59,600
downstream on the game, what 
about Steph Curry? 

1834
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:04,080
He would crack top 10 for me 
certainly there. 

1835
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:08,520
And I think like and I think 
some people wouldn't put Curry 

1836
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:10,040
in there. 
I think they'd still keep people

1837
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:12,520
like Hakeem over him and stuff 
like that, but. 

1838
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:14,560
The Russells and the will. 
Exactly. 

1839
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:16,080
And the Oscar Robertson's for 
something. 

1840
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:16,640
Yeah, that's true. 
That's. 

1841
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,000
True. 
I'd give Curry his flowers over 

1842
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:21,640
to Oscar Robertson, I think at. 
The me too, me too. 

1843
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:25,520
I just think obviously he 
literally changed the entire 

1844
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,440
game of basketball and he has 
the accolades to prove. 

1845
01:26:28,440 --> 01:26:30,800
It and he didn't have to jump 
around from team to team to do 

1846
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:31,760
it. 
Think about this too. 

1847
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:34,280
And, you know, he when he was 
drafted, the Warriors stunk. 

1848
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,640
So think about, you know, 
whether it's Jordan and that 

1849
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:41,640
that that legacy and the element
of still forever. 

1850
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:44,040
I mean, in 100 years, we're 
going to be where I won't be. 

1851
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:45,880
But we're in Jordan stuff, 
right? 

1852
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:50,440
Yeah, The the the piercing of of
multiple generations here. 

1853
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:52,800
Well, when I was young, I just 
told you about the story, you 

1854
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,240
know, never going to the 
schoolyard saying Kareem, you 

1855
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,960
know, trying to fire a hook. 
It was always like LMJ or 

1856
01:26:58,480 --> 01:27:00,120
Dominique or whatever it was, 
right. 

1857
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,040
Bernard came from me. 
Chris Mullen shooting, but the 

1858
01:27:03,440 --> 01:27:08,000
the also the the appeal and the 
cross section of the clothing, 

1859
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:09,720
like Iverson with the baggy 
shorts. 

1860
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:12,560
Jordan as well. 
Too little counter culture, 

1861
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:13,800
which ushered in a whole new 
area. 

1862
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:16,240
You got you got it, you got it. 
Not that not that a is on my top

1863
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:21,200
ten list, but top 20 top 25 for 
me definitely at but so to me, 

1864
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:25,160
if if that's part of the 
barometer, I you can make the 

1865
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:27,160
case. 
I think you really can. 

1866
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:31,360
Maybe outside of a will too is a
big and because he was just so 

1867
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,600
powerful and demonstrative and 
Jordan for the reasons I left 

1868
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:38,280
the largest impact and the most 
profound impact on the game. 

1869
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:42,240
Maybe not apparel the game is 
Steph because now every kid that

1870
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:44,400
walks in the gym, the first 
thing they do is they fire up 

1871
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:46,320
Curry. 
Yes Steph and. 

1872
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:51,120
You know, and my childhood was a
lot of Kobe, but then as soon as

1873
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:54,120
what? 
I mean what year 2014, 2015, 

1874
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:58,160
2016 100% change Curry. 
Yes, every time, you know. 

1875
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:00,120
Yeah, man, J Rod, think about 
this, dude. 

1876
01:28:00,440 --> 01:28:02,880
So now we're fully desensitized 
to it. 

1877
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:04,640
And, you know, listen, I love 
the Knicks. 

1878
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:07,320
I watch the NBAI know the NBA 
well. 

1879
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:09,200
I don't enjoy the NBA. 
The winner that I used to for a 

1880
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:10,600
lot of reasons. 
I'm not going to shut down 

1881
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:12,680
everybody's throat now because 
it's, you know, some people 

1882
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:14,120
still love it. 
I just don't love it the way 

1883
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:15,800
that I did. 
I don't think it's the same 

1884
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:17,760
product. 
I mean, defense, all the threes.

1885
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:21,720
That's the short version, 
tanking, whatever, rest rest 

1886
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:25,920
nights, maintenance days. 
But when Steph Curry first 

1887
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:31,280
started bombing 252627 footers, 
you're like what? 

1888
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:35,440
What in the world, dude. 
Now you you, you look at any box

1889
01:28:35,440 --> 01:28:38,560
score on any given night and 
there's probably on the 

1890
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:43,520
conservative side. 50 threes 
combined by both teams and some 

1891
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,600
are 5-6 feet behind the rim or 
behind the line, no. 

1892
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:47,920
It's. 
Insane. 

1893
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:49,920
Change the game. 
Yeah. 

1894
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:53,600
And it's like and before him and
like this would be a question 

1895
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:57,600
for you. 
Like was there ever any other 

1896
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:01,960
player before him who was an off
the dribble point guard who is 

1897
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:04,680
taking deep 3 pointers? 
Off the dribble. 

1898
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:08,160
Off the dribble, yeah, dude, the
game was so different. 

1899
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:11,520
I mean, Isaiah would shoot a 
couple Dennis Johnson with the 

1900
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:14,480
Celtics, but he was I didn't see
him with the Sonics. 

1901
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,680
They won the championship. 
I think it was 79. 

1902
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:19,560
Lenny Wilkins. 
I think Sigma was there Dennis 

1903
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:21,960
Johnson. 
But I, I, I saw Dennis Johnson 

1904
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:24,960
with the Celtics. 
He was he was still good slower,

1905
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:27,600
you know, set up Birds, set up 
Mikhail, set up Parish, open 

1906
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,880
jump shot mid range, set up 
Ainge for three off the dribble.

1907
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:34,120
No, I'm just thinking of point 
guards from back then off the 

1908
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:36,320
dribble. 
Absolutely not. 

1909
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:38,880
There's like, there's no way, 
dude, step backs. 

1910
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:41,760
How about step backs? 
Not really either, no. 

1911
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:45,160
Step backs. 
My thought was like, you know, 

1912
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:48,040
like I, I think my roommate and 
I were having this discussion on

1913
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:49,960
like best 3 point shooters of 
all time. 

1914
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:53,040
Like we were talking Clay Curry 
and it's like before Steph 

1915
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,320
Curry, you know, the greatest 
shooters of all time. 

1916
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:59,400
We're kind of all in that Reggie
Miller, Ray Allen shooting guard

1917
01:29:59,440 --> 01:30:01,960
archetype where they were the 
catching. 

1918
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:05,120
I mean, Reggie Miller of and Ray
Allen both had more of their 

1919
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:06,920
game than catch and. 
Shoot, yeah, for sure, For sure.

1920
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:10,960
But they were kind of those 
still 3 point shooters. 

1921
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:13,920
They weren't running, dribbling 
with the ball, taking it, 

1922
01:30:14,440 --> 01:30:16,560
putting it up like that. 
It was a little different. 

1923
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:18,640
It was a little more corner 
based I feel. 

1924
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:20,480
Yeah, OK, OK. 
I think you're you're you're 

1925
01:30:20,480 --> 01:30:22,680
kind of right. 
This is where, you know, maybe 

1926
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:25,320
obviously being older, I can 
help you get there fully, right.

1927
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:28,320
Sure. 
So again, Reggie Miller, he the 

1928
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:31,640
way he ran off screens, I mean, 
whether it's baseline coming off

1929
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:34,120
all these curls. 
So he might actually shoot the 

1930
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:39,480
ball from a stationary position,
but the amount of miles he would

1931
01:30:39,480 --> 01:30:42,480
run during a game, you know, 
running off multiple screens as 

1932
01:30:42,480 --> 01:30:45,080
guys were trying to free him up.
Rick Smith's, you know, some 

1933
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:47,800
other one, Dale Davis, some of 
the Antonio Davis, the big 

1934
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:50,200
forwards in the front court that
battled the Knicks and some of 

1935
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:51,840
those other really good teams 
all those years. 

1936
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:54,600
So it wasn't like he was just 
like waiting for the ball. 

1937
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:56,520
I'm open. 
Let me you know he was never 

1938
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:58,360
open because you knew if he was 
open, you were dead. 

1939
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:00,960
So it was there was a lot of 
movement and then it became 

1940
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:02,760
stationary. 
So you were you were kind of in 

1941
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:05,280
the right direction and and let 
me throw something else there 

1942
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:08,680
for you. 
The you talk about like, and 

1943
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:10,200
this is interesting. 
Charlie puts us up. 

1944
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:12,280
From what I've seen, Shack was 
the most dominant player 

1945
01:31:12,480 --> 01:31:14,280
watching from the late 80s to 
present. 

1946
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:17,400
I OK, I got you there. 
I mean there's different ways to

1947
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:21,200
describe dominance. 
OK, I mean Kareem was dominant, 

1948
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:23,080
Jordan was dominant. 
Many others have been dominant, 

1949
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:26,240
But I I think you mean that 
sheer ferocity, just that 

1950
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:29,960
absolute banging big body that 
people would literally get out 

1951
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:31,400
of the way for. 
So if that's the case, you're 

1952
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:33,840
right. 
Think about transformative 

1953
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:35,440
players, right? 
That's why I wanted to have this

1954
01:31:35,440 --> 01:31:37,160
discussion today. 
I knew we would branch into some

1955
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:39,760
fun basketball talk off of 
Shaq's list, right? 

1956
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:43,240
So you talk about Jordan and 
well, Jordan wasn't necessarily 

1957
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:46,320
the pioneer for dunking. 
It was Doctor J All right, 

1958
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:50,400
Doctor J, the 76 ABA slam dunk 
contest in Denver. 

1959
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:54,880
Like if you watch that, you guys
know David Thompson, they just 

1960
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:57,720
called him Skywalker could jump 
out of the gym and a couple of 

1961
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:00,600
others, right? 
I think Pistol Pete was one of 

1962
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:04,400
those first guys who was doing 
crazy schoolyard shit that 

1963
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:06,880
nobody that coaches hated. 
Nope. 

1964
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,680
Can't play basketball that way. 
We need 9 passes and a back cut.

1965
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:12,280
Come on, bounce pass. 
Like he was doing stuff that was

1966
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:15,320
just, you know, yeah, it was 
just insane. 

1967
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:17,200
Right. 
And then Steph with the shooting

1968
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:19,920
range and the shoot, shooting 
prowess and maybe guys like 

1969
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:24,120
Ewing, lesser extent Patrick 
Hakeem, big suit centers, 

1970
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:27,680
conventional centers who could 
step out and shoot 15 to 18 

1971
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:30,240
footers. 
Not really freeze, but but then 

1972
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:33,320
you got to throw a name in here.
He's not a top ten player. 

1973
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:36,920
He very well might be a top 20 
player and that's Dirk. 

1974
01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:39,640
Because when you look at think 
about, I'm not saying there's. 

1975
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:41,920
Another one in the comments that
I'll throw up in a second. 

1976
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,600
OK, OK, OK. 
I I'm looking forward to seeing 

1977
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:49,000
it because I'm not saying that 
that Jokic is, is is spawned 

1978
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:52,720
from Dirk, but there was an 
aversion. 

1979
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:55,440
Like if you were a big you sit 
your ass in the post and you 

1980
01:32:55,440 --> 01:32:58,680
demand the excuse me, the 
basketball and you go to drop 

1981
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:01,400
step, you know, little baby 
hook, little pump fake dunk 

1982
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:04,480
Moses guys like that young 
Patrick Hakeem Shack. 

1983
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:07,200
But Dirk Nowitzki, who's 7 feet 
one. 

1984
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:11,160
I mean, we talk about Kobe's 
fall away, which was money and 

1985
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:13,000
MJ had that fall away and some 
others as well. 

1986
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:16,400
Now it's really all over the 
game, but Dirk Novitsky, the one

1987
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:19,840
legged fall away from inside the
pain was indefensible. 

1988
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:22,240
Maybe I'm just thinking of this.
It just hit me. 

1989
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:23,960
Maybe, maybe I'm not, but maybe 
not. 

1990
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:29,160
Outside of Kareem Skyhook, maybe
the most indefensible shot in 

1991
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:31,640
the history of basketball, 
nobody blocked it. 

1992
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:34,640
I didn't I didn't get to see 
prime Dirk. 

1993
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:38,800
I got to see Dirk playing with 
Luca like career kind of deal. 

1994
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:43,840
So my like when he, you know, 
kind of hit that mid range, it 

1995
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:48,480
was was it the kind of thing 
where it's like look even higher

1996
01:33:48,480 --> 01:33:52,440
than Lamarcus Aldridge levels of
like it's going in 100% of the. 

1997
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:54,760
It's just pure dude. 
I mean, the rotation, the the 

1998
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:58,840
the spin, the mechanics, the 
disengagement from the defender,

1999
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:03,160
like he would get to his spot 
and foul line extended even like

2000
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:05,520
a little based on if they push 
him down there and and obviously

2001
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:06,840
banged in a lot of threes as 
well. 

2002
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:10,680
But when he did that, that one 
foot fall away. 

2003
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:14,480
I mean, the arc, the rotation, 
the form, it was perfect. 

2004
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:17,080
It was it was indefensible. 
I don't I I'm sure somebody 

2005
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:19,840
blocked it. 
I don't remember ever seeing 

2006
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:21,640
somebody block it. 
Not to be a prisoner of the 

2007
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:24,080
moment, you know, at the overly 
hyperbolic. 

2008
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:26,320
I mean, you play basically 20 
years, somebody blocked you shot

2009
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:29,960
on a fall away, I'm sure. 
But man, oh, man, it was, it was

2010
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:31,240
a thing of beauty and it was 
great. 

2011
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:33,840
And seven one guys weren't doing
that each one. 

2012
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:35,960
Yeah. 
He's a good one. 

2013
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:39,520
Another good one. 
Durant not, and I wouldn't throw

2014
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:42,760
him top ten. 
I would probably put him over AI

2015
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:44,600
all time. 
Me too, me too. 

2016
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:48,280
Like he would crack a top 2025 
sort of thing. 

2017
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:50,120
Absolutely. 
I just think the weird thing 

2018
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:53,200
with Durant is like, all right, 
everyone's going to recognize 

2019
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:56,120
and especially when he retires, 
that this dude was if not the 

2020
01:34:56,120 --> 01:34:59,480
greatest score of all time. 
All this, I just think the 

2021
01:34:59,480 --> 01:35:03,480
Warriors thing, and this is a 
dead horse of a point, it soured

2022
01:35:03,480 --> 01:35:07,360
his career, but it almost soured
it to the point where like you 

2023
01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:10,520
accept all the championships, 
but you're also just like it's 

2024
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:12,920
Kevin Durant. 
You don't really view him in the

2025
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:16,080
same place legacy wise as a lot 
of these other grades. 

2026
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:19,080
That's fair. 
He's had a very transient career

2027
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:21,360
and you're penalized for that 
nowadays. 

2028
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:24,040
I don't, I don't really care. 
I mean, listen what I have. 

2029
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:27,280
And I think Kevin Durant's, I 
mean, he's he might very well 

2030
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:28,920
might be the best pure scorer of
all time. 

2031
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:32,000
I mean, if somebody were sitting
around having beers in a bar and

2032
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:35,760
there's ten of us talking and 
you know, six or seven guys say 

2033
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,600
no matter how old they are, K DS
the best pure scorer of all 

2034
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:40,280
time. 
I got I got no real push back. 

2035
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:42,360
I might throw one or two other 
names up there for context. 

2036
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:46,280
I think you can easily make that
claim, but you know, when you 

2037
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:49,440
bounce around, you know, you 
just going to be perceived a 

2038
01:35:49,440 --> 01:35:51,720
little differently. 
And you know, and listen, Kareem

2039
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:54,160
played for the Bucks and he won 
with with Oscar Robertson as 

2040
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:56,840
well, but he was traded. 
It's different than willingly 

2041
01:35:56,840 --> 01:36:00,600
going out and seeking better 
situations like LeBron did, 

2042
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:02,760
which is why I penalize. 
I also don't think he's as good 

2043
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:06,560
as Jordan, but I penalize guys 
in terms of a championship, even

2044
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:09,760
though I hate the term legacy as
I perceive them in totality. 

2045
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:12,480
If you had to jump around and 
recruit your boys to come and 

2046
01:36:12,480 --> 01:36:14,400
get you a championship, you 
know, I'm sorry. 

2047
01:36:14,440 --> 01:36:16,560
You're not Jordan. 
You're just not the other thing 

2048
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:18,080
too. 
Did you now? 

2049
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:19,280
There's no way you would know 
about this. 

2050
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaking of Kevin Durant, do a 
little Google search right now. 

2051
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:28,200
Kevin Durant and your buddy me, 
do a little search there. 

2052
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:31,680
This was wild, dude. 
This was ridiculous at what I 

2053
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:33,160
got pulled into with Kevin 
Durant. 

2054
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:35,520
It's right. 
Listen, I'll set it up as you're

2055
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:38,120
looking for it. 
Kevin Durant and sports host 

2056
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:40,560
radio host Brandon Teeny. 
I've had notable, contentious 

2057
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:43,160
interactions on social media. 
Yeah, yeah. 

2058
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:44,480
Let's see. 
Nets. 

2059
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:46,200
Nets. 
Kevin Durant. 

2060
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:48,080
Is it? 
Is this a Bleach Report article?

2061
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:50,360
Yeah, that's Kevin Durant. 
RIP's host on Twitter. 

2062
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:53,600
There's a million sign with Nix.
Yeah, you can use that one, 

2063
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:56,120
right. 
So, so basically the genesis was

2064
01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:59,640
this is when I was still a big 
Carmelo fan, right? 

2065
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:04,800
So, and I'll never forget this. 
It was, well, not a huge Carmelo

2066
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:06,520
fan because it was kind of at 
the end of this point, but it 

2067
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:09,160
was at the end. 
But things have changed a little

2068
01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:10,000
bit. 
I respect them. 

2069
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:11,600
Great score, another great score
as well. 

2070
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:14,920
Anyway, I'm, I'll never forget 
this right before COVID and we 

2071
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:17,360
went to a local, we just kind of
moved into town. 

2072
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:20,800
We were here about a year and a 
half, and there's a Division 2 

2073
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:23,360
university basically down the 
street from us, right? 

2074
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:26,800
And kids were young, you know, 
obviously getting into sports a 

2075
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:28,280
little bit. 
And I knew that that would be a 

2076
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:30,200
path that our family's all about
that. 

2077
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:33,960
So we went, me and the kids and 
my wife got some popcorn, went 

2078
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:35,520
to watch some Division 2 
basketball. 

2079
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:38,400
And I'm doing the show with Tiki
at this point, right? 

2080
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:40,000
What year was it? 
Wait, what? 

2081
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:41,560
Maybe it was before that. 
What year was it? 

2082
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:45,520
Give me the year again. 
I'm looking at 2020 right now. 

2083
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:46,800
Yeah, that's what I thought. 
All right. 

2084
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:51,920
Like beginning of 20 January 
8th, 2020, you said Nets win 

2085
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:54,560
seven straight, no one cares. 
Nets who's seven straight, no 

2086
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:57,800
one cares, he said. 
And then you said speaks 

2087
01:37:57,800 --> 01:37:59,480
volumes, he said. 
What does it say? 

2088
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:04,840
OK, yes, so I'm at the game and 
there's maybe 300 people. 

2089
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:06,440
They were having popcorn. 
Great night, right? 

2090
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:14,640
And my producer for me and Tiki 
on the national show name is 

2091
01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:16,720
Diesel. 
Great guy, nicknamed Diesel. 

2092
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:18,720
Good dude, still doing stuff for
the business, really good guy. 

2093
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:22,280
And he hits me up and he's like,
yo, he's like, did you see what 

2094
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:25,440
K DS, K DS coming at you? 
He's like, light him up, destroy

2095
01:38:25,440 --> 01:38:26,600
him. 
It'll be good for the show. 

2096
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:29,320
I'm like, oh God, like I'm not a
radio beef guy. 

2097
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:31,800
I'm I don't start trouble. 
I really, I don't look for 

2098
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:33,520
trouble. 
I don't start trouble. 

2099
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:35,760
I don't disparage people. 
I mean, I'll be honest if 

2100
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:37,360
somebody asked me somebody, but 
I don't. 

2101
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:40,440
I'm not into gossip and all that
nonsense, bullshit. 

2102
01:38:40,440 --> 01:38:43,200
I can't stand that actually. 
I think people that really do 

2103
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:46,400
that really just don't have a 
whole lot to say about sports. 

2104
01:38:46,440 --> 01:38:49,560
And I wanted to be a 
sportscaster with obviously a 

2105
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:53,040
lot of ways to turn into other 
stuff and have fun organically, 

2106
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:55,040
but I'm not a shit stir in that 
regard anyway. 

2107
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:56,920
So I was going to go at him and 
eviscerate him. 

2108
01:38:57,320 --> 01:39:02,280
And I think if I recollect 
correctly, somebody, maybe even 

2109
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:05,680
Kevin himself wrote something 
about the Nets. 

2110
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:09,440
I, I don't the genesis was 
something about the Nets, right?

2111
01:39:09,440 --> 01:39:11,160
And the Knicks sucked. 
And I thought the Knicks were 

2112
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:12,960
going to get KD. 
And I was a little pissed off. 

2113
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:16,880
So I wrote back something along 
the lines of quote tweeted 

2114
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:20,080
somebody, maybe him. 
Nets win seven straight, Nets 

2115
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:22,440
lose 7 straight. 
Nobody cares. 

2116
01:39:22,440 --> 01:39:23,920
Something what? 
What does that say about the 

2117
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:25,840
existence of the Nets? 
Something like that. 

2118
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:28,320
Right, that that was it. 
That was it. 

2119
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:31,920
Again, read it good. 
Hold on, the article just 

2120
01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:32,800
disappeared but. 
It was. 

2121
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:35,040
Don't worry about. 
That it was Nets win seven 

2122
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:38,960
straight, nobody cares. 
Nets lose 7 straight, nobody 

2123
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:41,280
cares. 
And then you go like, what does 

2124
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:43,280
that say? 
And then Kevin Durant responds, 

2125
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:46,000
and he goes, What does it say? 
Boom, now look for some of the 

2126
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:48,000
other stuff. 
Now you got in because now we go

2127
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:52,480
back and forth and now I'm like,
I've now I'm like, all right. 

2128
01:39:52,480 --> 01:39:54,640
I think I said something along 
the lines of say whatever you 

2129
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:56,880
will, cuz I think at that point 
people know I wasn't a big 

2130
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:58,720
Carmelo fan. 
He didn't win whatever. 

2131
01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:01,720
And he's a little selfish for me
with the Lynn stuff and not 

2132
01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:03,240
being in great shape, not 
playing defense. 

2133
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:05,600
And so I wrote something, but I 
defended. 

2134
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:08,400
I'm like, at least Carmelo had 
the guts to try to make. 

2135
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:11,240
To try to elevate the Knicks 
like you didn't even have the 

2136
01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:12,760
gut. 
Something like that. 

2137
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:14,640
Am I, am I on? 
Am I on to it? 

2138
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:17,760
Well, you, there's, I'm getting 
you said. 

2139
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:21,560
Whenever you grow tired of 
tweeting, hop on New York radio.

2140
01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:24,680
I think true fans deserve some 
answers being that the last few 

2141
01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:27,200
months have been interesting and
he just goes no. 

2142
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:29,680
That's right. 
And then he even wrote back at 

2143
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:31,640
some point. 
He's like, he actually felt good

2144
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:33,160
about this. 
He wrote there. 

2145
01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:34,720
I mean, it was back and forth 
all night. 

2146
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:37,360
There's like 7 tweets. 
There's a lot. 

2147
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:39,880
And then he wrote at one point 
he's like, yeah, I know you got 

2148
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:42,040
your little, you got your little
medium where you got your little

2149
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:43,600
platform. 
Like hey, I'm like, hey, 

2150
01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:45,440
recognize the platform. 
Ain't that little? 

2151
01:40:45,440 --> 01:40:48,160
There we go. 
There's something like that. 

2152
01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:51,720
So I that that was just a little
sidebar with Kevin Durant. 

2153
01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:56,680
And listen, if I wanted to make 
it bigger and bigger and bigger,

2154
01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:58,840
like I could have been this 
disrespectful, but I'm not about

2155
01:40:58,840 --> 01:40:59,760
that. 
Like I wasn't trying to 

2156
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:02,040
disrespect Kevin Durant, but 
that. 

2157
01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:04,240
But we didn't know about the 
burner accounts at this point 

2158
01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:07,120
and all that stuff. 
Yeah, man, I mean, if you, if 

2159
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:10,320
you had that kind of ammo now, 
things could have been good. 

2160
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:11,560
Things could be a little 
different. 

2161
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:13,280
I, I wonder if that stuff's 
real. 

2162
01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:17,720
You know, I, I, I'd, I'd be led 
to believe that it's true about 

2163
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:21,760
all these burner accounts, But 
you know, I'd like to also give 

2164
01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:24,440
him the benefit of the doubt 
sometimes and be like, man, this

2165
01:41:24,440 --> 01:41:27,360
guy, there's no way this guy is 
disparaging every single one of 

2166
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:30,200
his team mates in like Twitter 
DMS and stuff. 

2167
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:32,080
That's like, I don't know what's
you know with him. 

2168
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:35,880
It very well might be. 
I don't know, but he hasn't. 

2169
01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:39,080
I mean, I don't know if that was
me and those things were being 

2170
01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:42,000
attributed to like, say if there
was an uncovering of an account 

2171
01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:45,640
and people surmised it was me 
and I'm still a WFAN and I'm 

2172
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:48,000
throwing shade at everybody. 
I mean, I know what I would do 

2173
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:51,000
if it wasn't me. 
I would vehemently denounce. 

2174
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:52,400
It deny it. 
He has not. 

2175
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:54,720
He has not What? 
That's the point. 

2176
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:58,040
That's interesting, you know so 
anyway, so it probably a little 

2177
01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:00,960
truth in there if he didn't 
shoot it down at Avery Summit. 

2178
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:03,480
Duncan was the most humble and 
underrated old timer that that 

2179
01:42:03,480 --> 01:42:05,960
very well might be true. 
Pop screamed at him like he was 

2180
01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:08,640
a rookie, fully bought into Pop 
system, played for one team and 

2181
01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:11,600
humbly transitioned into into 
role players. 

2182
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:12,280
He ate. 
That's right. 

2183
01:42:12,480 --> 01:42:14,680
And David Robinson kind of did 
the same thing as well with 

2184
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:17,720
early Duncan where, you know, 
Tim where, where, where David 

2185
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:20,480
Robinson transitioned and, and 
understood that the passing of 

2186
01:42:20,480 --> 01:42:23,440
the mantle was important. 
And he willingly because David 

2187
01:42:23,440 --> 01:42:25,920
Robbins is that kind of guy. 
When you go to the Naval Academy

2188
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:29,520
and your class act like David 
Robinson is and forever will be 

2189
01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:32,000
and not to mention a great 
player, you know, you're going 

2190
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:34,960
to do the right thing where, you
know, somebody like has kind of 

2191
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:38,160
not to take a shot at Carmelo, 
but Jeremy Lin, you know, drops 

2192
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:40,520
40 on the Lakers. 
And Jeremy Lin has a good week. 

2193
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:42,960
And Carmelo's not feeling it 
because you get fewer shots and 

2194
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:44,600
you get a little bit less of the
shine. 

2195
01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:47,040
And to me, it was a good thing 
that the Knicks found the player

2196
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:50,360
and Carmelo was selfish and, you
know, he kind of, he kind of 

2197
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:52,240
sabotaged it. 
So that's one of my beasts with 

2198
01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:53,840
Carmelo. 
Not many beasts, but that's 

2199
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:56,760
really the main one. 
No, I mean definitely anything 

2200
01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:57,600
else. 
It happened. 

2201
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:00,200
I've got one thing yo, you grab 
it real well. 

2202
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:03,040
Two things actually. 
The best comments, but real 

2203
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:04,240
quick. 
What are you doing? 

2204
01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:05,120
Watching. 
All right, all right. 

2205
01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:06,800
What are you, Captain? 
What the hell is that? 

2206
01:43:07,160 --> 01:43:09,720
Who is that? 
Jason Tatum tonight. 

2207
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:11,800
Tonight. 
Good night. 

2208
01:43:12,440 --> 01:43:15,840
This guy, look at that guy. 
I mean, getting pop. 

2209
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:17,480
What? 
What was that, a bobble head? 

2210
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:20,240
It's a Funko Pop. 
It's a yeah, Funko Pop. 

2211
01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:24,400
I'm not a bobble head guy. 
I've got, I've got 212 in my 

2212
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:26,160
office. 
I've got one of Luke Hornaseka 

2213
01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:29,200
and I've got one of Rick. 
I've got one of Mullen as well. 

2214
01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:33,160
But doing some stuff around the 
office, I had to put it over 

2215
01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:35,960
there for a minute, but I'm not 
about like some people like Joe 

2216
01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:39,400
Beningo loves bobbleheads. 
I know Sal likes him too. 

2217
01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:43,040
He's got a ton and like some of 
these people I, I laugh at and 

2218
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:45,320
I'm, I'm not making fun of them.
I just don't get the appeal. 

2219
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:46,760
I mean, do what you got to do, 
do you? 

2220
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:52,600
But you'll see like bobblehead, 
my Mets and like, and I think 

2221
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:54,320
the Yankees do it too. 
I'm not 100% sure. 

2222
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:58,000
Like people race to get tickets 
for a fucking piece of plastic. 

2223
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:01,760
Come on little Jalen Brunson 
holding a Door Dash bag. 

2224
01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:03,840
I don't understand. 
That I love that. 

2225
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:06,760
One why though? 
They're like little tchotchkes 

2226
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:10,160
that are $0.37 to make and they 
just take up space. 

2227
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:13,160
To me they look sloppy. 
Yeah, I have a nice. 

2228
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:16,880
Clean look myself. 
It's definitely just a little 

2229
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:19,760
bit of like keeping a bit of 
your childhood with you. 

2230
01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:21,840
It's kind of, it reminds me of 
like they're like kind of like 

2231
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:24,760
little, not really baseball 
cards because they're a little 

2232
01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:27,960
more like toyish. 
Yeah, but for. 

2233
01:44:28,480 --> 01:44:29,600
Sure, for sure. 
All right. 

2234
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:31,880
I got one more question before 
we do those that other thing you

2235
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:35,400
have here. 
So you mentioned childhood. 

2236
01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:38,520
I don't think that your 
generation was as into it. 

2237
01:44:38,520 --> 01:44:40,440
Did you have posters hanging up 
on the wall in your in your 

2238
01:44:40,440 --> 01:44:41,400
bedroom? 
You have a lot of. 

2239
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:44,600
Posters, so not a ton, but I had
a good amount of fatheads. 

2240
01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:47,720
But they I had let's see which 
sports ones I had. 

2241
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:51,040
I had John Cena. 
I had Rey Mysterio when I was a 

2242
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:54,720
kid and then as I got older, 
this one was weird. 

2243
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:57,600
I had like, did. 
Did you ever watch Walking Dead?

2244
01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:01,720
No, but I know about it. 
I had a big Rick Grimes like 

2245
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:05,080
Norman Reedus with him holding 
like a crossbow. 

2246
01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:08,080
Oh. 
My God, that's an interesting 

2247
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:11,840
look into the childhood bedroom 
of this guy God, I had posters 

2248
01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:13,240
plastered everywhere. 
That's going to be in other 

2249
01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:14,800
content. 
So I've got the sneakers. 

2250
01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:17,320
This is all stuff will drop as 
as we move forward here. 

2251
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:19,560
My top ten sneakers I'm. 
In some mic. 

2252
01:45:19,560 --> 01:45:21,440
Issues real quick, I am where 
you are I'm. 

2253
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:24,320
Coming from year end, but I 
think you're good. 

2254
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:25,760
I think mine is just glitching 
out. 

2255
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:28,040
Well, keep good, keep going for.
One SEC I'm a reboot. 

2256
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:30,440
My studio yeah, I mean better 
better you than me. 

2257
01:45:30,440 --> 01:45:31,800
I mean let's let's call for what
it is here. 

2258
01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:33,200
Jay Roth is going to be Mike 
issues. 

2259
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:34,520
I'd rather you have them than 
me. 

2260
01:45:35,080 --> 01:45:38,960
But I'm also going to do a an 
additional content drop with the

2261
01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:40,880
my favorite posters. 
Man. 

2262
01:45:41,240 --> 01:45:43,720
I mean, to me there was nothing 
like I even had posters hanging 

2263
01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:46,640
up in college, although like Bo 
Jackson where all the different,

2264
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:49,880
like he had a pair of shoulder 
pads on and maybe holding a 

2265
01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:54,440
tennis racket, you know, Bonos 
everything, a baseball, I don't 

2266
01:45:54,440 --> 01:45:56,600
know, Javelin, maybe whatever he
had. 

2267
01:45:56,840 --> 01:46:00,880
And then all Mattingly stuff and
Ewing and some Jordan stuff and 

2268
01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:05,080
Oh my God, I absolutely posters 
were you don't see him as much. 

2269
01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:08,280
Like when I would go to buy 
sneakers, ironically, they would

2270
01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:09,760
always have like this. 
Great. 

2271
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:12,480
You know, rack that you would 
just kind of if you if you're 

2272
01:46:12,480 --> 01:46:15,200
old another like you kind of 
push through it like in a metal 

2273
01:46:15,440 --> 01:46:18,160
like in a metal frame and it 
would connect it to the wall and

2274
01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:19,840
you just go I'm like app got 
that got that. 

2275
01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:21,560
Oh, I got to get that. 
Got that, got that. 

2276
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:22,920
Anyway, go ahead, Jay, you good?
Yeah. 

2277
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:26,040
Yeah, Mike's all good. 
It was just like, I think my my 

2278
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:27,760
headphones were cutting out or 
something like that. 

2279
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:30,000
Good man. 
So what's this new one? 

2280
01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:31,240
This new thing that. 
You got here. 

2281
01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:34,360
I mean, I think just been going 
through the comments honestly 

2282
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:37,480
just like cracking up like every
week, every episode. 

2283
01:46:37,480 --> 01:46:41,200
I just think you guys are very 
funny and so I compiled some of 

2284
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:43,960
my favorites from this week. 
You know, gonna just try to keep

2285
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:45,160
doing it. 
Go through next. 

2286
01:46:45,160 --> 01:46:46,320
Week. 
I like it. 

2287
01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:48,520
So here's the first one. 
Here's the first one we'll go 

2288
01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:50,520
through. 
Keep it up. 

2289
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:52,760
Look at the graphics. 
All right, Let me read here. 

2290
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:53,880
Art. 
Art. 

2291
01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:56,880
Dan Danvale. 
Danvale. 

2292
01:46:56,880 --> 01:46:59,600
There you go. 
I think this kid might have been

2293
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:02,080
me. 
Oh, I was only four years old. 

2294
01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:03,840
And I kicked the and I kicked 
the crap out of you. 

2295
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:06,080
According to my memory of this. 
That's got to be. 

2296
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:09,160
It's got to be in response to 
Michael Kay's story with his dad

2297
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:11,080
saying if you don't go 
downstairs and beat the shit out

2298
01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:13,520
of here, and I'm just wondering,
I'm gonna beat the shit out of 

2299
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:14,680
here. 
That's got to be that, right? 

2300
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:17,840
Yeah, And I'm wondering, is it 
could it really be true? 

2301
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:22,000
Could this really be the guy who
got into the beef with Michael 

2302
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:23,720
Kay? 
My other thing that was funny 

2303
01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:27,880
was four years old. 
Well, dude, look at this dude of

2304
01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:29,680
called Michael Kay of four years
old. 

2305
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:31,840
No way. 
You better get downstairs. 

2306
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:33,240
So. 
No, no, I thought that. 

2307
01:47:33,480 --> 01:47:35,160
Was a good little troll. 
OK. 

2308
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:38,080
Listen, I don't think that Mike 
was, you know, I believe the 

2309
01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:40,680
story from going down to try to 
handle business and I to text 

2310
01:47:40,680 --> 01:47:42,480
him a follow up and I'm going to
get to that in a second. 

2311
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:44,840
I mean, Michael K was not 
running around the Bronx 

2312
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:47,800
throwing hands. 
I mean, so and, and, and it like

2313
01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:52,160
often I, I don't think, and even
if that when I don't think that 

2314
01:47:52,160 --> 01:47:55,120
that's true, that this is the 
guy that he actually fought when

2315
01:47:55,120 --> 01:47:58,000
he came downstairs. 
I mean, you're not going to let 

2316
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:00,040
you, Michael couldn't have been 
a whole lot old. 

2317
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:02,120
You're not going to send a 12 
year old to go fight a four year

2318
01:48:02,120 --> 01:48:03,440
old. 
So there's no way you're going 

2319
01:48:03,440 --> 01:48:05,920
to let your 4 year old go there 
or five year old go downstairs 

2320
01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:08,720
without you in the Bronx or 
anywhere really. 

2321
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:10,240
No way. 
There's no way. 

2322
01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:14,680
So no, I don't think it was him.
I did text Michael, and I never 

2323
01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:15,880
got the verdict, and that's my 
bad. 

2324
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:18,600
As good as the interview was, I 
never followed up and asked him 

2325
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:20,680
if he won. 
So let me see him. 

2326
01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:22,720
Yeah, I got the response from 
Kay. 

2327
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:23,600
Hang on. 
I gotta pull it up. 

2328
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:27,520
This was yesterday, and I had to
text him something this morning.

2329
01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:29,440
Where is he? 
Where is he? 

2330
01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:38,200
All right, all right, all right.
He goes. 

2331
01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:41,440
Oh, I wrote him. 
I said, hey, by the way, we 

2332
01:48:41,440 --> 01:48:43,240
never got the verdict. 
Did you win the fight or did you

2333
01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:44,720
lose? 
He says. 

2334
01:48:44,720 --> 01:48:48,560
I think we fought to a tie until
we were separated. 

2335
01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:52,000
Oh, that's funny. 
By the way, the separation 

2336
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:53,720
wasn't a bad thing. 
You're huffing and puffing. 

2337
01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:54,840
You kind of hoping somebody's 
high. 

2338
01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:57,680
Can you get us out of here? 
But let's also call them for 

2339
01:48:57,680 --> 01:49:00,480
what it is. 
You know, I, I, I had a couple 

2340
01:49:00,480 --> 01:49:03,160
of scraps I probably won't have.
I probably lost a few more than 

2341
01:49:03,160 --> 01:49:07,280
I won over my life, right? 
Admittedly, probably, you know, 

2342
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:10,560
last ball was a couple of real 
ones in college and did all 

2343
01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:13,040
right, but it's been a lot while
and I'm not tough. 

2344
01:49:13,040 --> 01:49:17,080
I'm not trying to present that 
at all, but of if I had 1012 

2345
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:20,240
real fights in my life, there's 
no way any was a draw. 

2346
01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:24,200
Yeah, no, kind of. 
Fights a drug, at least someone 

2347
01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:26,680
got the upper hand and. 
That's what I'm saying. 

2348
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:31,040
Even if it was like no one you 
know clearly got lost or 

2349
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:33,840
destroyed, at least someone got 
one good hit in where? 

2350
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:36,800
That's what I'm saying. 
Listen, somebody's on top of the

2351
01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:39,040
other kid, somebody's got a 
bloody nose, somebody's got a 

2352
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:42,440
black guy, somebody's shirt is 
over if you're a hockey fighter.

2353
01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:44,520
All right, I got to get going. 
So hit me with the other one or 

2354
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:45,000
two. 
What do you? 

2355
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:47,960
Got Here's the Here's a Here's 
another one. 

2356
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:54,760
His superpower requires rest. 
No one else other than Aaron 

2357
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:57,680
Glenn. 
My future Hall of Fame coach, 

2358
01:49:57,680 --> 01:50:00,880
Aaron Glenn, there were a lot of
people who who now say he wasn't

2359
01:50:00,880 --> 01:50:02,800
sleeping. 
I know Evan went on a rant about

2360
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:04,040
that. 
Hey, I I thought he was 

2361
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:05,760
sleeping. 
So whatever somebody else sees, 

2362
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:08,280
that's what you see. 
You know, it looked that you 

2363
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:10,560
know, and could he have been 
looking at his phone? 

2364
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:14,760
I guess, but the way he this 
what gives it away to me, like 

2365
01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:17,800
if you looking at your phone and
you and you find out that you're

2366
01:50:17,800 --> 01:50:21,520
on camera, right, you know, you 
might you can go like this, 

2367
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:24,200
right, But I think he was kind 
of like this. 

2368
01:50:24,200 --> 01:50:25,920
So maybe he's holding the phone 
here and he's like this. 

2369
01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:30,200
You're not going to be like like
there was like such AI don't 

2370
01:50:30,200 --> 01:50:33,080
know like an an inability to 
process where he was at that 

2371
01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:34,280
point. 
Yeah, like when you get caught 

2372
01:50:34,280 --> 01:50:36,480
sleeping in class. 
No, literally like when your 

2373
01:50:36,480 --> 01:50:39,360
teacher when like I I definitely
had it happen to me a couple 

2374
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:41,120
times in middle school where 
they go Jared and you go. 

2375
01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:42,960
Yeah. 
What's going on? 

2376
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:43,440
Yep. 
Yep. 

2377
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:45,280
All right. 
So I think he was sleeping, 

2378
01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:46,520
despite what anybody said. 
What else? 

2379
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:50,160
Third. 
One second to last, I'll go to 

2380
01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:55,000
the live show if Carl Banks put 
Sal in a headlock a la Nolan 

2381
01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:57,520
Ryan and Robin Ventura. 
That's a. 

2382
01:50:58,600 --> 01:51:00,040
Good. 
That's a good one. 

2383
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:01,240
You know what's funny about 
that? 

2384
01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:05,280
You know my in laws were at that
game in Texas. 

2385
01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:08,760
Yeah, man, it was the IT was, it
was the old Arlington State and 

2386
01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:10,120
not obviously not what's it 
called? 

2387
01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:13,280
Globe light, whatever it is now.
Not the beautiful ballpark 

2388
01:51:13,280 --> 01:51:15,280
before that, which I think is 
nicer than the one they have 

2389
01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:17,400
now. 
The one before that with like 

2390
01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:19,520
Raffy and Pete and Kaveli and 
those guys. 

2391
01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:23,080
Obviously Nolan Ryan and The 
funny thing about that and my 

2392
01:51:23,080 --> 01:51:26,120
father-in-law, you know, was 
there with my mother-in-law and 

2393
01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:29,440
Robin Ventura gets clowned for 
that because of 43 or whatever 

2394
01:51:29,440 --> 01:51:31,760
he was put him in a headlock and
he just kept bang like he was 

2395
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:34,840
like getting like he was, I 
don't know, throwing a piece of 

2396
01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:37,680
rope around a steer on the farm,
basically how we treated him. 

2397
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:40,960
But if you actually watch that 
whole fight, Ventura got a 

2398
01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:45,080
couple of licks in really OK, He
did, he did, he did. 

2399
01:51:45,480 --> 01:51:49,120
I'm not saying like shots to the
chin on on Nolan Ryan, but I 

2400
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:51,120
don't know if he got punked the 
way it's presented all these 

2401
01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:53,520
years later. 
And hey, listen, if if it's 

2402
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:57,160
going to make it a sell out and 
so those so those extra tickets,

2403
01:51:57,680 --> 01:52:00,800
I think Sal might go full old 
school WWE. 

2404
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:03,040
He might even blade himself if 
we get out put getting put in 

2405
01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:05,320
the headlock. 
He might cut himself and get a 

2406
01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:07,000
little blood trick went down on 
the forehead. 

2407
01:52:07,520 --> 01:52:09,800
Sal's down for anything. 
So much we need. 

2408
01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:13,840
A real show. 
And then here's #4 just a quick 

2409
01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:16,520
one. 
This was during BT story. 

2410
01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:19,800
BT tore his Achilles and snapped
out the Matrix. 

2411
01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:23,360
This was like when you were 
describing like the scene of 

2412
01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:26,560
like time stopped. 
Like, I just thought that was 

2413
01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:28,080
just like such a funny 
descriptor. 

2414
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:29,960
It did. 
It was I told you that was the 

2415
01:52:29,960 --> 01:52:31,520
other day. 
I was playing hoops going up for

2416
01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:32,880
three. 
I was playing in some league in 

2417
01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:35,320
Manhattan, the urban, the men's 
urban professional league went 

2418
01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:39,240
up for three things snapped and 
I got to go. 

2419
01:52:39,240 --> 01:52:42,280
But the story, I thought I got 
fouled and as I'm coming down 

2420
01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:46,200
and in my mind for like a 
whatever minuscule determination

2421
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:48,240
of time is nanosecond, I don't 
know. 

2422
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:50,240
I process, I'm like, oh, good, I
got foul. 

2423
01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:51,440
I got 3 and I was a good foul 
shooter. 

2424
01:52:51,440 --> 01:52:53,800
I got 3 foul shots coming. 
And then all of a sudden as I'm 

2425
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:56,840
coming down, I look on the 
baseline, the referee's just 

2426
01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:59,320
there with the whistle in his 
mouth like this not moving. 

2427
01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:03,360
And I'm like, I, I didn't and I,
I, I'm like, I, I didn't get 

2428
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:04,200
foul. 
What happened? 

2429
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:07,600
Bang, hit the floor. 
And then the story goes as the 

2430
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:08,480
story goes. 
So. 

2431
01:53:08,920 --> 01:53:11,480
All right, J Rod, really good 
end to the week here, man. 

2432
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:12,840
Yeah. 
Have fun tonight. 

2433
01:53:13,480 --> 01:53:15,760
Can you give me the 20 seconds? 
What we got cooking tonight? 

2434
01:53:15,760 --> 01:53:19,560
We got. 
Got my friends birthday party so

2435
01:53:19,680 --> 01:53:22,680
let's have you know starting off
at the dinner at 6:30 and then 

2436
01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:25,760
going out to the bars. 
So also not a house party? 

2437
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:28,000
No, you guys don't do house 
parties anymore, right? 

2438
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:31,040
Yeah, I mean, I guess it in like
it really depends. 

2439
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:33,520
Like I, you know, I've been to 
some house parties for birthdays

2440
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:36,480
in New York thus far, but it's 
mainly the go out to a bar 

2441
01:53:36,480 --> 01:53:37,800
thing. 
I just I gotcha. 

2442
01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:39,440
It's easy. 
What bar are you going to? 

2443
01:53:39,440 --> 01:53:41,200
What part of the city? 
I know you're a lower side. 

2444
01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:43,400
Lights prospect height. 
You go to public. 

2445
01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:45,680
Yeah, I'm a Bushwick guy. 
Oh, I know. 

2446
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:49,520
But yeah, yeah, Prospect 
Heights, my friend, he's like, 

2447
01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:51,240
you know, he's a little bit down
DeKalb. 

2448
01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:54,560
He's a he's like Franklin and. 
Something, Frank, what you 

2449
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:56,600
mentioned the cow, that was one 
of the stops on the train that I

2450
01:53:56,600 --> 01:53:58,200
was talking about the other day.
Really. 

2451
01:53:58,240 --> 01:53:59,560
Cow Babe the. 
Queue. 

2452
01:53:59,840 --> 01:54:02,520
Yes. 
Dude, I get out there to go to 

2453
01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:06,720
work every single day. 
Every single day. 

2454
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:08,680
That was my train. 
Yeah, we talked about it. 

2455
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:10,640
Yeah. 
I mean, house back in the day. 

2456
01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:11,840
House party. 
It was nothing better than a 

2457
01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:12,720
house party. 
Parents. 

2458
01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:13,920
Those are the most parents 
around to. 

2459
01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:17,520
Me, I I love God still, just 
like the party where, you know, 

2460
01:54:17,600 --> 01:54:19,640
even the apartment. 
I just think and that's where 

2461
01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:22,920
really where you meet people. 
Yes, What's great about a party?

2462
01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:24,840
House music all night long. 
Say what? 

2463
01:54:25,160 --> 01:54:26,800
I got to tell you the story at 
some point. 

2464
01:54:26,800 --> 01:54:30,840
Not now when I threw my one and 
only house party in high school.

2465
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:32,760
Oh man. 
And I got caught. 

2466
01:54:33,600 --> 01:54:37,040
It would started with maybe 7-8 
of my buddies, you know, nagging

2467
01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:39,360
a few beers back, kicking like 
knuckleheads, hanging around. 

2468
01:54:40,160 --> 01:54:41,760
And I don't know how word 
spread. 

2469
01:54:41,760 --> 01:54:43,800
Before I knew it and I was in 
Flatbush. 

2470
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:45,840
There were people from Bay 
Ridge. 

2471
01:54:45,960 --> 01:54:50,400
There were people from Rockaway.
There, there, there must have 

2472
01:54:50,400 --> 01:54:56,320
been 100 people in my house. 
It was, it was a disaster, bro. 

2473
01:54:56,320 --> 01:54:57,840
I thought my dad was going to 
put me through the. 

2474
01:54:57,960 --> 01:55:00,040
I was, you know, I, I was scared
of it. 

2475
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:03,160
I I got I'll tell you the full 
story some other day. 

2476
01:55:03,160 --> 01:55:04,440
Yeah. 
Wow. 

2477
01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:07,400
I mean, we'll talk about a 
brazen move slash idiotic on my 

2478
01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:09,480
part Good God. 
All right, Jay, let me bounce, 

2479
01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:11,440
brother. 
Everybody out there appreciate 

2480
01:55:11,440 --> 01:55:12,680
you guys. 
You know that great, great, 

2481
01:55:12,680 --> 01:55:14,400
great week. 
I know you really enjoyed the 

2482
01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:16,240
case stuff. 
Rick Pitino coming up Monday at 

2483
01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:19,080
2:00 here on our lease. 
I've got hopefully the Greca on 

2484
01:55:19,080 --> 01:55:22,200
Tuesday, Big East tournament 
coming up next week and then of 

2485
01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:25,080
course, election Sunday. 
I'm going to drop Sunday night 

2486
01:55:25,080 --> 01:55:28,000
here on the show as different 
con not live different. 

2487
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:29,800
Just it'll be a premier content 
kind of thing. 

2488
01:55:30,040 --> 01:55:34,000
My old time Big East team 
starting 57 reserves, 10 honor 

2489
01:55:34,160 --> 01:55:37,040
mentions all-encompassing from 
79 to now. 

2490
01:55:37,320 --> 01:55:39,200
It is going to be absolutely 
phenomenal. 

2491
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:41,560
I can't wait to get because I 
know this disagreements. 

2492
01:55:41,560 --> 01:55:44,680
Obviously there's going to be 
some glaring omissions that you 

2493
01:55:44,680 --> 01:55:46,480
think I messed up. 
That'll be fun. 

2494
01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:48,160
We'll get after it. 
What else? 

2495
01:55:48,160 --> 01:55:52,280
We'll hit 18,000 Subs hopefully 
by today, but certainly by the 

2496
01:55:52,280 --> 01:55:54,280
end of the weekend. 
We're cruising toward 20. 

2497
01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:58,120
It's AI mean it's a lock by 
baseball season 20,000. 

2498
01:55:58,120 --> 01:56:00,480
That's a given. 
And I'm hoping for 25. 

2499
01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:03,880
That might be a little ambitious
by first pitch Yankees, Giants 

2500
01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:07,480
out there in San Francisco, but 
you never know with you guys. 

2501
01:56:07,480 --> 01:56:09,080
I'm not going to I'm not going 
to put anything past you. 

2502
01:56:09,080 --> 01:56:11,800
Why not? 
Good luck to WBC tonight, USA 

2503
01:56:11,800 --> 01:56:14,040
tonight, Team USA play in 
Brazil. 

2504
01:56:14,320 --> 01:56:17,320
So let's go judgey. 
Captain Harper and those cats, 

2505
01:56:17,360 --> 01:56:20,240
all those Corbin, Carroll, 
Schwarz, all those dudes, bring 

2506
01:56:20,240 --> 01:56:22,080
it home. 
Let's try to win this thing. 

2507
01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:24,760
Have an awesome weekend. 
I'll be at Johnny Cedar Hall 

2508
01:56:24,760 --> 01:56:27,480
tonight calling that with Mink. 
So if I see you at the arena, 

2509
01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:30,080
make sure you come up, say hi. 
Give me a little DAP, especially

2510
01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:32,400
if you're an unleashed guy. 
So enjoy the rest of your 

2511
01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:33,880
Friday. 
I got a bounce. 

2512
01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:36,160
Have a great weekend and we will
see you soon. 

2513
01:56:36,160 --> 01:57:01,480
Peace. 
listening?