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What's going on, everybody? 

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BT unleashed in the house on 
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A little fancy intro. 
J Rod, BT Unleash. 

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Can you hear me? 
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I know you can't. 
I like it. 

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J Rod, he told me there's more 
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By the way, he's actually 
building out that song. 

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So hope everybody had a weekend,
whatever you can make out of it.

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Obviously, a ton of football. 
We'll get to it all. 

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We'll hammer in the comments 
here. 

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We'll go for about an hour and 
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Got a couple of really good 
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Yeah. 
And the first thing, too, that I

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find really interesting. 
Right. 

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So the Giants just went through 
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all the previous coaches they 
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Jets, which I'll get to much 
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and their charade circus of, you
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coaches. 
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like if you get the right coach,
if you get an elite coach right,

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you're going to, you know, win, 
you're going to win big. 

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Well, the crazy thing is that 
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Super Bowl winning coaches. 
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they can crack through, had 
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cost their teams probably a 
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Certainly in like in the case of
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could you first of all, you've 
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to really, really change, which 
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for TV. 
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nonsense like, well, you got to 
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It's not fair. 
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it as well. 
It's called football. 

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That's called being outside. 
It's called elements. 

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I had no issue with that. 
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to A7-O lead with Stidham, which
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Geez. 
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really short, tight red and 4th 
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instead of going for the three 
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scores at that .10 zip against 
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very, very good quarterback, 
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able to use his legs. 
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aggressively there, doesn't work
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And instead of 10 zip and seven 
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points. 
So Mass and and to Sean Payton's

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credit, he owned it after the 
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But but and go Tony Romo, who I 
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guy, but God almighty, he is 
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He's terrible. 
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Romo like Romo sounds, it's 
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even sounds like anymore. 
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The whole dynamic with Jim 
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trust each other. 
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weird, whatever. 
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like he was on a right. 
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Jim, you got to go for it. 
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now, different spot, different 
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I think a bit of a different 
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this point you down 4, there's 
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fourth quarter. 
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fourth and five. 
Stafford incomplete. 

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Now the thought is, and I 
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that number when you got 
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and the Seattle Seahawks offense
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So if you take the three, you 
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There's no guarantee that you 
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So I, I understand the mechanics
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it just seemed like the more 
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take the three, cut the deficit 
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somebody who can bang at least a
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win the game on a field goal. 
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Well, I do because it's 
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I guess I should say I don't 
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leaning on numbers like 
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Mike Grable might do something 
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breaches and a greach is 
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Or Mike McDonald, who has been 
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Seattle. 
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we're like, wow, you just cost 
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robots and that they should 
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like too often, even best 
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what they're watching. 
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beholden to a statistic or a 
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direction and advice because 
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pardon me, numbers matter and, 
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do think when there's something 
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have the adaptability to change 
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that you have. 
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It's it's very similar to say, 
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guy like say you have a guy like
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as a righty. 
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lefty hitter. 
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sort that out for the Yankees, 
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nice three-week run where he's 
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a game or two. 
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the game and they bring it a 
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bench him against a tough lefty 
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ability in terms of a big like a
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to hit right-handed? 
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little three-week binge where 
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hot and the numbers are backing 
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you that maybe he's turning the 
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something righty that you didn't
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based on the small amount of 
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Like, that's what I mean. 
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that's the greatest example. 
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coaches that just react to, you 
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direction, the broad numbers. 
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got to cut through that and 
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it's my quarterback, whether 
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the weather, whether it's the 
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which is absolutely, colossally 
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And it's amazing too, right? 
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I want to debunk an NFL 
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All right? 
And then we'll get to Darnold. 

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We'll get to The Jets. 
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Oh boy, wow. 
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All right, Mike Vrabel is a 
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of years with the Ravens, former
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And if you think, and this 
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heard this a lot. 
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the noise is louder with The 
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you got to find that young hot 
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find that that young offensive 
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that young top five drafted 
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together and boom, you go and 
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Well, it's funny because Rabel's
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Donald's a transient nomadic, 
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who's bounced around team to 
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So the four components, the two 
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quarterbacks, one of the four, 
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most of you and by the way, to 
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subscribe to. 
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reality. 
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perception. 
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different and the names and the 
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in the AFC. 
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You go to the AFC, right? 
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playoff teams in the AFC. 
Why are these things fogged up 

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and the, and I'm going to go to 
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quickly, right? 
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disparity in the AFC favoring 
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But it does go to show you that 
a lot of the things that that 

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you hear and are kind of pre 
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without giving much thought 
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Which is why I always, I always 
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independent thinker, not just 
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whether it's sports, whether 
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Learn to think for yourself 
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tell you is bullshit. 
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When I say that, I mean 
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Broncos offense, Peyton got it. 
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Pats, Liam Cohen did a great job
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you know, a young quarterback 
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map. 
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background. 
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the change here. 
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background. 
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playoff appearances. 
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That Texans defense, not the 
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D'amico Ryan's defense, I know 
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All right, McDermott defense and
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former NFL quarterback. 
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defense, offense. 
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Now the NFC is very different. 
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or defensive background. 
That's the guy who's going to 

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the Super Bowl because you look 
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for Caleb Williams, great hire 
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very erratic in terms what they 
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offensive background, Panthers, 
Dave Canales, really good young 

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coach offense, McVeigh offense, 
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for the Green Bay Packers 
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So you know what, what does it 
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I mean, maybe a little 
circumstantial, whatever. 

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we don't have two defensive 
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talked about. 
I think some of the mistakes 

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that both coaches made 
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if they if McVeigh coaches a 
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quite, you know, what we have 
here, but it is what we have 

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here. 
So anything that you know, has 

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been told to you and you have 
pretty much just, you know, 

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taken, you know, chapter and 
verse, not necessarily true. 

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Now, let me just get something 
off my chest here with Sam 

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Darnold. 
First of all, the yo yos out 

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there, the oversimplification of
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takes. 
I mean, I tell you, there are so

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many people out there that just 
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talking about. 
Like they just lack creativity, 

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they lack substance, they lack 
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The amount of dumb tweets out 
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Oh, let me tweet this and they 
look how witty I am. 

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Look what I'm going to put out 
there and I read this stuff and 

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I'm like not even remotely 
funny. 

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Like and I'll give you one of 
the things that's the problem. 

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I got 2 pairs of glasses and one
of them that's the right one. 

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The other one is a little, a 
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new. 
It wasn't feeling feeling right 

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going on the Dome. 
Anyway. 

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Everybody thinks they're a stand
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The other Jets ruin them. 
So the easy thing to do with Sam

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Darnold, by the way, who I am so
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amazing game, man, Sam Darnold 
was phenomenal. 

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And if you've ever had that 
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that RIP strain, I mean, you 
listen to the pregame stuff. 

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I mean, he wasn't even throwing 
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I mean, this guy's been 
basically rehabbing who knows 

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how many needles he took to numb
the pain. 

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Like that is a very invasive, 
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everything. 
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you do in terms of throwing, I 
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but it really doesn't matter. 
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pressure. 
You just, it's a quick turn. 

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Like that is not fun to deal 
with. 

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I remember that happened to me 
playing golf years ago, right? 

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One of my many injuries, which I
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swing. 
I'm like, I didn't. 

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I didn't really feel right. 
What had happened was that I was

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playing quick little Side Story 
was playing lefty because that's

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what I play. 
It was a lefty batter in in in 

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baseball and I didn't start 
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college. 
So naturally I grab a club and I

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start playing lefty. 
Anyway, after about 3 or 4 years

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I'm playing whatever could hit 
it off the T, but a mess 

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someday. 80, eights, 89 some 
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Nothing, Nothing really good, 
but I could hit it pretty far. 

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So I take a swing of my my my 
back's not feeling right. 

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I wind up having back surgery. 
But in my crazy competitive mind

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back then, I'm saying, well, 
maybe if I try to play, this is 

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true story. 
Maybe if I try to play right, 

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right golf right-handed, the way
the vertebrae stacked and the 

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pain, maybe it won't hurt as 
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So anyway, I start playing golf 
righty out of nowhere. 

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Literally out of nowhere. 
And because I wasn't used to the

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swing and I'm still swinging 
like a maniac, I'm in my early 

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30s. 
I basically tear my intercostal 

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muscle right. 
And I remember driving into work

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going over speed bumps and it 
felt like somebody was plunging 

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a knife into my basically right 
below my heart. 

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That's how much that injury 
hurt. 

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So for Sam to go out there and 
you know me, I'm just trying not

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to Shank a ball on the tee in 
front of everybody. 

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This guy's trying to elude the 
fenders and, you know, spin it 

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in there between a linebacker to
safety and get his team to the 

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Super Bowl. 
Massive balls by Sam Darnold. 

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My God. 
So I am incredibly happy for Sam

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Darnold. 
I think he's an awesome human 

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being. 
I think he's I always knew he 

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had talent. 
You knew it. 

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You knew that Darnold had 
talent. 

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The first game that you watched 
him as a Jet and he knew that he

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had stones. 
The first game that you watched 

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him as a jet because the first 
play that he ever made, first 

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play from scrimmage Monday 
night. 

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Remember, they do the two games 
on Monday night. 

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Monday night, Ford Field, Jets, 
Lions pick six. 

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I'm like, what got my my son who
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I don't know whatever he was 
sitting on. 

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I'm like, Dad, don't look, 
buddy, we got our next 

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quarterback here. 
Yeah, This is the guy that's 

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going to win you the Super Bowl.
This is the guy that's going to 

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give you everything that daddy 
hasn't had in his lifetime. 

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First play of the game, pick 6. 
But then look at the look at the

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the box score. 
Look what he did after that. 

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He had a great game and he 
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rookie year. 
And he showed some visible signs

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even that last game out in 
Buffalo. 

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There's one play, like I think 
it's late in the game. 

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He just runs around. 
Like I think he ran 47 yards 

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combined, like moving left to 
right. 

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And he finds somebody out, maybe
Jeremy Kerley, wherever the hell

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it was. 
So you knew that he had talent, 

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all right. 
And I think you knew that he was

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like emotionally reliable and he
wasn't soft and he wasn't like a

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diva. 
He wasn't into the wrong stuff. 

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He was a football player that if
he got in the right spot, he 

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would have a chance to be to be 
good. 

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I mean maybe not like this, not 
saying I thought that, but he 

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could at least be functional and
with the right coaching and all 

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the other stuff better than that
and maybe like a top 15 ish 

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quarterback more towards 15 
obviously than 10. 

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Well, if you want to beg on The 
Jets with those witty tweets 

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about all this is The Jets and 
the only The Jets could ruin the

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San Darnell. 
Don't you think somebody like 

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Carolina or San Francisco and 
especially Minnesota has got to 

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take more of a dent for this 
than the New York Jets? 

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I mean, what are the reasons why
The Jets had to move on from San

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Not well shouldn't say had to 
elected to move on from Sam 

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Darnold was because of the 
contract. 

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When you draft somebody as they 
drafted him third overall, you 

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got a big, big, big rookie 
contract and then that fifth 

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year option which you either 
exercise or you don't. 

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And once you do that, you're 
going to have to give him big 

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money. 
But if you don't think he's the 

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right guy, why would you do it? 
Really? 

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Why would you do it? 
So I understood it at that 

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point. 
I did. 

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So not that I fully exonerate 
The Jets, of course. 

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If The Jets have this offensive 
line for Sam Darnold or if The 

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Jets had Garrett Wilson for Sam 
Darnold, I promise you Sam 

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Darnold would have been a little
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probably still have The Jets. 
But he went to Carolina. 

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He sat for the most part, he 
went to San Francisco. 

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It was a mental, you know, 
revival, mental rehabilitation 

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and exercising of all the demons
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spot with the dysfunctional 
loser Jets. 

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But really, the team that's got 
to get smacked around here is 

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Minnesota. 
I mean, he won 13 games with 

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Minnesota. 
He threw 35 touchdowns with 

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Minnesota. 
They willingly elected to say, 

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Nah, we good go in a different 
direction when let's see 892 win

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5 fewer games and their four 
quarterbacks that actually took 

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snaps this year, not 1234 
quarterbacks had 18 touchdowns, 

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which is almost half of what the
guy had that they told to leave,

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what he did for team that you 
know. 

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Oh, yeah. 
By the way, is in the same 

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conference. 
So I get it. 

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It's an easy narrative. 
The Jets mess everything up. 

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The Jets are a joke. 
Yeah, The Jets, that's our joke.

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This is one thing that's not 
funny to me, and this is one 

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thing that is not really, at 
least for me, I'm not going to 

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leave at their doorstep. 
The Carolina Panthers had him in

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the building, had a had a chat 
him on, basically no money. 

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I mean, just no, whatever. 
And then the Niners had him on 

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low muddy and the Vikings had 
him on low muddy, you know. 

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So I just think it misses the 
mark. 

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I think it's easy, but I also 
think it's very lazy. 

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I don't think it's very funny. 
Now, if you want to get on The 

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Jets, there's obviously a lot to
get on The Jets. 

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About what? 
What an absolute clown show. 

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I swear to God. 
I have tried my best to stay 

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positive with this team. 
I really have not. 

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Not like positively or or 
positivity where it it's just 

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not applicable at all. 
Like I'm not going to be 

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delusional and say things are 
good when they're awful. 

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That's never going to be me. 
But I'm also not going to be the

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guy, as I've chronicled many 
times, hence the whole 

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unkillable speech. 
I'm thinking that was born out 

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of never going to die, never 
going to give up, never going to

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say, all right, hey, I did. 
I'm done here. 

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Just take me away, Jets. 
They'll never do it. 

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Like I just don't subscribe to 
that. 

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That is a loser mindset. 
That is somebody that just walks

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around predisposed to thinking 
that nothing favorable can come 

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their way. 
And that's not me. 

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That's not now to be rooted in, 
you know, head in the sky 

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positivity. 
That's not the right way to go 

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through life either. 
Somewhere between, right, you 

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know, react to what you see when
it's bad, say it when it's good.

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Say it. 
When it's somewhat positive, say

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it. 
When it's egregiously bad, yell 

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it and scream it. 
All good, all good. 

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But as much as I try to give 
these losers the benefit of the 

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doubt, you just can't because 
every time they do something, 

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it's Dumber and more stupid than
it was the previous time they 

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did something dumb and stupid. 
And here we are. 

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So The Jets over the weekend, 
right? 

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They basically fired everybody 
except the head coach. 

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So they bring in Aaron Glenn and
nobody really knows the extent. 

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I believe it was strongly rooted
in Woody. 

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I can't quite prove it. 
I've heard that, but I can't 

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fully prove it. 
But I have heard that from 

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people that I do trust whatever 
that Woody's hand was very heavy

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and getting Aaron Rodgers out of
the building. 

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All right now I believe also 
that Aaron Glen subscribe to 

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that. 
To what extent I don't know, but

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I think he wanted to start over,
which by the way, I I kind of 

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understood like where you going?
Like even if you had a 10 win 

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season with a 41 year old, that 
a 42 year old Aaron Aaron 

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Rodgers like you just going to 
be back to square one in year 2.

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So which by the way, think about
what happened to Brian Dabel. 

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Brian Dabel's first year with 
the Giants was really good. 

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They won nine games. 
They won a road playoff game. 

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Daniel Jones gets the money and 
Jess Aquan with a big year and 

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all this stuff. 
And then it gets progressively 

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worse and worse and worse. 
And I remember saying with Sal, 

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we talked about this a lot on 
the fan. 

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Like, you know, man, maybe it 
would have been a little 

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different if he came out and he 
was like three wins or four wins

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and incrementally get to 6 and 
7:00 to 9:00. 

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And then eventually you have a 
full roster, you know, your 

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fingerprints all over the 
franchise. 

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Well, now it's different. 
And maybe that was Aaron Glenn's

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philosophy. 
And by the way, it's not, it's 

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not really a bad one. 
It's really, I get that like 

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when you're that bad for that 
long, it's not going to be a 

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Band-Aid. 
It's not going to be some stick 

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em or spit or glue or rubber. 
And let's take the Wrecking Ball

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kind of like the Mets did to 
their core. 

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Let's start over. 
Let's build up a foundation 

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rooted in offensive line play, 
running the ball, discipline, 

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culture, etcetera. 
So, you know, Macro Lee, if that

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if, if you will, speaking, I, I 
agree with it. 

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OK. 
But that doesn't mean that we 

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can't go back. 
And, you know, look at some of 

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the things that he didn't say. 
I may have agreed it with it in 

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real time, but it doesn't mean 
that he was right now. 

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I did not like the Steve Wilkes 
hire for a minute one. 

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Find it, look it up. 
I don't know anybody that did. 

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That's the greater challenge. 
Find somebody that lauded the 

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Steve Wilkes hiring. 
Did anybody find that? 

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Nobody, Right. 
He's the 1st to go. 

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And it was a big hireright big 
hire. 

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And it was an unmitigated F. 
It was a flat out, straight up 

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failure of the highest order. 
A truck as bad as it gets right 

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now, you got to find the DC. 
But then over the weekend, now 

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everybody else is out. 
All right, so since Wilkes was 

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shown the door, now you got to 
find a quarterback coach. 

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You got to find a passing game 
coordinator, you got to find AD 

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line coach, a linebacker's 
coach, 2 defensive assistants, 

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whatever the hell that means, 
and an assistant to the 

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defensive backs. 
So you basically got to retool 

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the entire coaching staff. 
Who knows what Angstrand's role 

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is going to be? 
It might be a little different. 

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OK, so I don't understand what 
they're thinking here. 

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And I am somebody who got on, 
whether it was the fan when I 

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was still there or the early 
like Unkillable doing the Sunday

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postgame reactions. 
I'm getting on the air in the 

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same office saying I'm going to 
bring back Aaron Glenn for 

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second year. 
I'm going to run him back 

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because they had just they had 
no talent. 

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I mean, their backups were 
starters. 

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They're taxi players who they 
should have been on the taxi 

445
00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,680
squad and originally were were 
backups and then based on 

446
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,200
injuries, forced into starting 
roles in too many spots. 

447
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,440
Like, what do you expect? 
You got an undrafted 

448
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,000
quarterback. 
You got nothing. 

449
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,800
Garrett Wilson hasn't played in 
seven weeks. 

450
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,480
What are we doing? 
How can you judge somebody who's

451
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,400
got no weapons around him? 
So I was trying to be fair to 

452
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,800
Aaron Glenn. 
But now all this and now the 

453
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:21,200
tweets and the tech start coming
in AG EJ Bertle 2. 

454
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,520
The bigger joke about The Jets 
was we all thought that Joe 

455
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,600
Douglas was a genius because of 
that one trade. 

456
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,160
Yeah. 
I mean, listen, Joe did some 

457
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,800
really good things. 
I appreciate the text there. 

458
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,720
Thank you. 
Joe drafted a couple of good 

459
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,000
players. 
If Joe would hit on the 

460
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,760
quarterback, Joe would have been
a phenomenal general manager. 

461
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,360
I mean, Joe actually did a lot 
more right than he didn't. 

462
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,760
Now I think that Muji is going 
to be very good as I've said, so

463
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,840
I'm not just going to turn this 
into like 1 sweeping demolition 

464
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,080
of The Jets. 
I like the general manager. 

465
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,360
I do, I like their offensive 
line. 

466
00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:52,840
I I know they've got a bookend 
on the left side in fashion. 

467
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,880
Oh, they got a bookend on the 
right side and Armand Membu, 

468
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,280
like they have made some picks 
there. 

469
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,800
They got a #1 receiver. 
They got a young interesting 

470
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,840
tight end. 
Like they got a couple pieces. 

471
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,920
They got two first round picks 
this year, 3 next year, boatload

472
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,400
a second round. 
There's $73 million in cap 

473
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,160
space. 
I'm not just going to again, 

474
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,120
take the lazy train and just 
shit all over The Jets because 

475
00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:15,920
it's easy to do. 
What I'm telling you is I'm 

476
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,000
absolutely confused by the 
inconsistency of this. 

477
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,520
And This is why The Jets this 
right? 

478
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,320
This not because they're cursed,
not because Joe named it said 

479
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,200
we're going to win. 
None of that. 

480
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,520
The reason why The Jets are The 
Jets is because their owner is 

481
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,520
clueless and an idiot pertaining
to football stuff. 

482
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:39,200
And he allows he allows the 
people that he hires to do dumb 

483
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:44,240
things over and over. 
Now you look at Robert Kraft. 

484
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,320
What does Robert Kraft do right?
Well, first of all, he creates a

485
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,440
dynasty number one. 
And then, you know, as dynasties

486
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,960
Peter out, ask the Yankees from 
the mid 90s forward dynasties. 

487
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,080
Obviously, you know, they go 
away, whether it's the Celtics 

488
00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,360
back of the day or Toronto Maple
leaves or the Canadians back 

489
00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:02,880
then, whatever. 
But Lakers of the 80s dynasties 

490
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,280
always die. 
They elevate, they ascend, then 

491
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:06,640
they just dominate, then they 
die. 

492
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:07,920
It's it's called the world, 
right? 

493
00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:11,280
The cycle, the cycle of 
dynasties, the cycle of life. 

494
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:16,320
But the Patriots, they hire 
somebody Mayo, they give them a 

495
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,160
chance, all right, They look 
right away. 

496
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,600
They're like, Nope, not it. 
And behind the scenes as Rabel's

497
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,160
using The Jets for leverage, 
pretending he's interesting in 

498
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,880
the interest in The Jets job, 
which I wanted Rabel. 

499
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,560
Now I was OK with Aaron Glenn 
and he was on my list. 

500
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,560
Mike Rabel was the guy. 
Go look it up. 

501
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,120
That's the guy that I shouted 
about. 

502
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,600
I wanted Rabel because you win 
11 games with Ryan Tannehill. 

503
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,080
You could come coach my team 
any, any day of the week. 

504
00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:45,280
I'll take you any day, right? 
So the Patriots can transfer 

505
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,760
them to The Jets. 
They evaluate after one year, 

506
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,840
they say now this is untenable 
for our standards, you are gone.

507
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,320
But before they do that, and you
know how this works, cuz you got

508
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,720
to have connections. 
Connections in life are a good 

509
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,240
thing. 
Whether it's business, football,

510
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,360
anything, you need connections. 
And Woody's got none. 

511
00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:04,440
And to me, that's the ultimate 
issue. 

512
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:05,400
I'll get back to him in a 
minute. 

513
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:10,640
But Robert Kraft pivots and is 
able to gather information. 

514
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:11,800
Get us. 
Hey, Mike, you want to you know,

515
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,960
would you want to come back here
and coach, I'm not saying like 

516
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,560
nobody's told me that. 
That's common sense. 

517
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,560
That's how you do it. 
It's how smart people operate, 

518
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,000
right. 
So they get the answer before 

519
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,760
they fire Mayo. 
Hey, Mike, if we if we fire, if 

520
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,520
we move on from from Mayo, you 
coming like we can't be holding 

521
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,480
the bag here firing this guy. 
You going to The Jets and us not

522
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,960
really knowing what to do. 
So that was all done and that 

523
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,560
was all unlocked before they 
actually fired Mayo and 

524
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,440
introduced Mike Brabel, step 
one. 

525
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,760
Now look at him two years later 
after back-to-back miserable 

526
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,480
seasons, going to the Super 
Bowl. 

527
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,800
Where is The Jets? 
The New York Jets have an awful 

528
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,960
season. 
Matter of fact, the worst month 

529
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,400
in terms of point differential 
disparity in the history of the 

530
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,640
NFL, not the history of The 
Jets. 

531
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,440
Like when you talk about the 
history of The Jets, that's 

532
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,720
generally bad enough. 
Anything outside of Joel Namath 

533
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,760
that's referenced about The Jets
is not good. 

534
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:10,240
So that's not a statistic guys, 
that illustrates how bad The 

535
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,920
Jets have been based on the 
vadnais of The Jets. 

536
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,640
That is a statistic that 
illuminates and further 

537
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,080
illustrates how bad The Jets 
were in December against every 

538
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,080
other team in every other season
in every month in the history of

539
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,120
the NFL. 
Not just The Jets stat, that's 

540
00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:29,560
an NFL stat. 
Think about that. 

541
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,840
So contrast that to what crafted
and now look at what he did. 

542
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,400
Yeah, that would go alright, 
we'll give another shot, which I

543
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,160
was OK with, as I said, because 
of the circumstances. 

544
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,080
Now he had a bad year, but I 
wanted like the the recycling in

545
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,120
the constant. 
You know, you're gone, you're 

546
00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:48,800
gone, you're gone. 
There's no stability, no 

547
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,280
culture. 
Like if you're going to talk 

548
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,360
about culture in a non nebulous 
term, like, oh, you know, I was 

549
00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:56,600
sitting at a yes, it is who had 
a press conference. 

550
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,640
Welcome to the Welcome to The 
Jets head coach press 

551
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,520
conference. 
Now we are after culture. 

552
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,000
Like, you know, all these people
who have the word culture and 

553
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,000
like, yeah, like it's just I 
culture. 

554
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,400
You know it when you have it, 
you know when you don't, right? 

555
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:15,000
But the the chance for culture 
to root and then actually 

556
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,440
prosper is basically non 
existent. 

557
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,240
When you keep whacking people, 
you just you can't do it, right.

558
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,960
It's the same like same. 
I'll give you an example, same 

559
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,320
with radio, right? 
You have a team that you think 

560
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,200
two people that you think could 
be good together. 

561
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,600
And you know after six, 7-8 
months and I actually think me 

562
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:37,800
and Sal are pretty good example 
of this. 

563
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,400
Because if you look at our last 
year together versus our first 

564
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,120
year, it, I would say it was 
night and day because I think 

565
00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:43,880
they were really good moments in
the first year as well. 

566
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,000
But like year 2 just took off 
and just became an incredible 

567
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,520
show, just a very different 
great show. 

568
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,840
They were great moments the 
first year, but there were 

569
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,800
things that we were working 
through and figuring out. 

570
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,560
It's called real life, right? 
So, you know, if you don't give 

571
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,720
something a chance to prosper 
and to go through some growing 

572
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,000
pains, I'm not a big fan of that
unless it's just untenable. 

573
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,840
Like if it's on immediately 
untenable, like if somebody has 

574
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,360
no professionalism, if they're 
always late to work, if they 

575
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:14,440
don't show up, if they don't do 
their homework, whatever it 

576
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,160
might be pertaining to whatever 
craft it might be, then that's 

577
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,440
different. 
Like, not that you are now 

578
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,280
poisoning the building. 
You have to go now. 

579
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,200
You gots to go now You can't 
leave. 

580
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,800
Now you must leave. 
You know, to reverse the quote 

581
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:30,280
in the movie right now, you 
can't leave a great soundtrack 

582
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,760
to just comes in, closes the 
door, click, we got trouble 

583
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,520
here. 
Those bikers get their face 

584
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,960
kicked in. 
So I just don't understand how 

585
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,040
the New York Jets are an 
appealing destination at all. 

586
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,920
And I really want to know how 
the revamping of the coach, even

587
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,960
if it's Wayne, whatever you know
it's going, it's going to be AI.

588
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,160
Guess it's going to be a decent 
name. 

589
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,880
But for at least for the defense
coordinator. 

590
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,720
How are you supposed to attract 
quality coaches when Aaron 

591
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:03,600
Glenn, if he has one bad game in
Week 1, his flame, his seat will

592
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,720
erupt in flames immediately. 
That's the problem at 15 years, 

593
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,320
Jay, we're we're so doomed with 
Glenn. 

594
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,560
Football's basically dead. 
If you're a Jets fan, McDermott 

595
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,240
sitting out there waiting now. 
All right, I get that. 

596
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,880
Appreciate it. 
But I don't think that you're 

597
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,440
doomed with Glenn. 
I think you're doomed with 

598
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,280
Woody. 
What is the problem? 

599
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,640
Like it all funnels uphill, you 
know what I mean? 

600
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,520
It really all funnels uphill. 
So we could talk here and we can

601
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,640
think about, you know, whether 
it's a Darnell, whether it's a 

602
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:37,720
Geno before that to a lesser 
extent, you know, whether it's a

603
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,360
Joe Douglas, maybe it's a Robert
Sala, you know, 2 point O watch.

604
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,200
He'll probably be better than he
was with The Jets. 

605
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,720
You can almost book that. 
So to me it's not an Aaron Glenn

606
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,640
problem. 
Now he might not have the 

607
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,560
shoulders that are broad enough 
to actually work around that 

608
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,880
looming figure of losing that 
Woody Johnson is forever and has

609
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,360
been until dispelled like Woody 
Johnson is an owner is a loser 

610
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,000
period. 
Like that's I'm not trying to be

611
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,720
mean. 
That's not personal as an owner,

612
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,680
he is a loser literally based on
his record loser and as bad 

613
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,440
about as big a loser record wise
as you could possibly be in the 

614
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,880
NFL. 
Now, what you can do is you 

615
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,000
could scream about coaches and 
GM getting fired at or retained 

616
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,800
or whatever. 
You could and, and there might 

617
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,920
be change. 
Sometimes teams react to that 

618
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,480
noise. 
Owners don't react to you 

619
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,480
banging the the door down for 
them to, you know, sell the 

620
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,000
team. 
So I don't really waste a whole 

621
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,400
lot of energy on Woody except to
say he's awful. 

622
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,520
And as long as he's here, I 
believe any success that The 

623
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,680
Jets have will be #1 
intermittent, cuz you'll get in 

624
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,240
the way of any success early. 
And I think it will be kind of 

625
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,720
by accident and like good 
fortune, you know, I don't I 

626
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:49,200
don't know that The Jets I don't
think that The Jets will unless 

627
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,720
Mooji is even better than I 
think. 

628
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,400
And that that's possible. 
Like, you know, if if he just 

629
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,520
does something that is 
completely unexpected and 

630
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,920
maneuvers somehow the draft and 
uncovers a quarterback or maybe 

631
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:03,480
it's Ty Simpson, whatever at 
whatever pick, or maybe he uses 

632
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,200
a second round pick, maybe not 
even the Colts pick, but maybe 

633
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,680
he does something that changes 
the fortunes of The Jets. 

634
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,680
All right, I'm going to leave 
the door open for that because I

635
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,440
believe in his a valid is 
evaluating talents and I believe

636
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,920
in some of the moves he's made 
already. 

637
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,000
He's been bold, he's been 
proactive, he's shown a a nice 

638
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,960
sense of, of modern, I get 
modern adaptability and and 

639
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,680
modern aggressiveness in the 
NFL. 

640
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,640
Like he's a younger GM who's 
willing to deal and not just 

641
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,040
sitting around while I've got 
the I've got the, you know, 

642
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,280
second pick and I've got the 
16th pick and nothing else I 

643
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,960
could do. 
No going to go out there and 

644
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,080
look at everything and see who I
like and if there's something 

645
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,280
out there that is very, very 
bold and some might not be 

646
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,400
willing to do, but I believe 
it's best for this team. 

647
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,640
We're doing it, you know, so I 
don't understand what I do. 

648
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,280
But this is not the problem here
with The Jets. 

649
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,640
Like, how are you supposed to 
attract good coaches? 

650
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,920
And I just said this before, but
I need to get back to this 

651
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,760
because this is the reality of 
where The Jets are. 

652
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,960
The coaches. 
Yeah, you'll have a coaching 

653
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,600
staff. 
What good coach? 

654
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:10,800
What credible coach is going to 
willingly say? 

655
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,960
Meaning when I say willingly, 
meaning you've got other 

656
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,280
options. 
And if you're a good coach and 

657
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,240
you're a credible coach, you got
options. 

658
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,320
Like The Jets aren't the only 
team that's calling, but why in 

659
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:27,120
the world are you going to hit 
your wagon to that circus where 

660
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:37,600
let's say The Jets lose Week 137
to 1040 to 13 that day, Week 1 

661
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,560
hot seat already. 
He's on the hot seat. 

662
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:47,080
And when I say hot seat, I mean 
flames to the ceiling Week 1 and

663
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,520
you're going to say, yeah, 
that's a place and I'm going to 

664
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,080
go willingly work when I could 
go here and work maybe a lesser 

665
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,360
role, maybe 5070 thousand bucks 
less, maybe $100,000 less, 

666
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:58,920
whatever the pit might be more, 
whatever. 

667
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,080
But I'm going to go to the do a 
healthy building with a 

668
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,160
reputable coach and say if I'm 
on the offensive side of the 

669
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,920
ball with a young quarterback 
that I can help. 

670
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,800
Or if you're defensive 
background, you know, with a 

671
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,080
good pass rush, maybe a good 
cover corner, with a good 

672
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,000
linebacker that you know that 
you can mold, you're going to go

673
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,120
to The Jets. 
You're going to opt for that. 

674
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,320
When you have options. 
No, when you don't have options,

675
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,240
you are. 
But people who are desired 

676
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,400
generally have options. 
Generally, especially in the 

677
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,960
coaching ranks when there's so 
many different positions, you 

678
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,720
can create a position 
consultant. 

679
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,240
Think about what Rabel did. 
Mike Rabel did it last year when

680
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:41,200
he was fired. 
So it's it's very depressing and

681
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,360
it's depressing for the wrong 
reasons. 

682
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,680
Not that The Jets are cursed and
they'll never win because of Joe

683
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,160
Name. 
It's guarantee that it's 

684
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:55,440
depressing and it seems hopeless
because the owner is lost. 

685
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,840
No vision, no connections, no 
authority, no clue. 

686
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,080
He's awful. 
He's awful. 

687
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,640
That's what's going on with The 
Jets. 

688
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,400
I mean, I'm happy for Sam 
Darnold. 

689
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:11,719
I don't know. 
Maybe I'm just getting a little 

690
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:12,920
softer as I get a little bit 
older. 

691
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,560
I think he's an awesome young 
man. 

692
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,159
What the hell did Sam Darnold do
to US? 

693
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:18,080
Well, I'm going to root against 
Sam Darnold. 

694
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,639
Yeah, I'm going to root for the 
Patriots. 

695
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,840
Go get them pets. 
Yeah, I'm going to root against 

696
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,679
the guy who was drafted by The 
Jets, who I really like the 

697
00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:26,760
night that they drafted him and 
I really liked for the first 

698
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,639
year or so. 
I'm going to turn on the kid 

699
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,679
because and and I'm going to 
root for the Pats. 

700
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,320
I can't remain agnostic. 
You can't hope that nobody wins.

701
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,199
Somebody's going to win the 
Super Bowl. 

702
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,320
Let's go, Seattle. 
Let's go, Sammy. 

703
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,960
All right. 
At TRIPWIRE 5590. 

704
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,719
Let's see here. 
I can't help but feel The Jets 

705
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,600
are doomed, especially when you 
see these other teams hiring new

706
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,719
coaches and The Jets are stuck 
with Aaron Glenn. 

707
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,000
Well, they're not stuck with 
Aaron Glenn. 

708
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,239
They are electing to remain 
married to Aaron Glenn because 

709
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,200
what you could easily do. 
I know it's a little late in the

710
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,760
cycle, but this is what I mean. 
If The Jets like if Woody, if 

711
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,280
Woody had NFL connections, 
right? 

712
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,080
Think about. 
And I hate to do this because it

713
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,440
just further illuminates how 
lost and said the team that I 

714
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,160
inexplicably all those years ago
decided to root for. 

715
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,840
Like a loser, like an idiot. 
I wish I was a Giants fan, but 

716
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,640
the Giants have had this 
horrendous run. 

717
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,160
But when it was time to bunker 
together, what happened? 

718
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:26,000
They coalesced, right? 
John Mara, Chris Mara, Tish, Eli

719
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,760
Coughlin, even Dabel, the guy 
that you fired. 

720
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,840
You think Robert Sala would say 
anything nice about the New York

721
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,200
Jets? 
You think he would? 

722
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,680
Would you? 
So they coalesce and as a unit, 

723
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:43,160
as a force, as a central force 
in the NFL, like a figure that 

724
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,960
was always respected big time, 
the brand was diminished. 

725
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,960
But God, Eli, not to mention 
Gifford annoyed. 

726
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,960
Why a Titto? 
Come on, man. 

727
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,600
Parcells, Coughlin, Eli or 
Strahan Banks, you name it, do 

728
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:02,040
what was Phil do this all day, 
all day, right, Hostetler 

729
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,360
stepping in and winning a Super 
Bowl. 

730
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,640
What do you got for The Jets? 
What do you what do you have? 

731
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,720
They got your name it. 
And that's pretty much it. 

732
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,800
So when it's time for The Jets 
to coalesce and to get out their

733
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,000
big guns and line them up to try
to do something big and 

734
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,880
something that will ultimately 
change the like the direction 

735
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,080
and the trajectory of the team. 
Who the Hell's Coleman to speak 

736
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,480
on the virtues of The Jets? 
Vinnie Testaverde. 

737
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,760
I love Vinnie. 
Vinnie's going to call. 

738
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,800
He's played for 9 teams. 
You know, Adam Gase. 

739
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,440
Maybe Adam Gase could pick up 
the phone the hell out of here. 

740
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,960
So they're not doomed because of
Aaron Glenn. 

741
00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:45,320
They're doomed because the 
owner, unfortunately, is 

742
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:51,120
incredibly wealthy, and that 
wealth enabled him to permeate 

743
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:56,120
the NFL family. 
But his inability to understand 

744
00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:00,320
anything about, I don't mean 
third and seven blitzes, I'm 

745
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,160
about constructing a healthy 
building. 

746
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,200
Is 00. 
Woody Johnson? 

747
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,120
No clue. 
None. 

748
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,000
So if I thought that Woody 
Johnson could make a call and 

749
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,600
have a conversation with Sean 
McDermott. 

750
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,040
Hey, Sean, listen, we weren't 
going to do this. 

751
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,360
We didn't know if he would get 
fired. 

752
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,200
What do you think about coming? 
And if Sean said I'm interested,

753
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,080
I want to come and fix you guys.
You fire Aaron Glenn today, you 

754
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,160
fire him right now. 
But that dope won't do that. 

755
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,840
He's not even thinking about 
doing that. 

756
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,240
Instead, he is allowing somebody
who won three games and whose 

757
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:37,920
team was inept 95% of the 
season, 90% of the season firing

758
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,360
all the coaches he willingly 
brought in one year ago. 

759
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,640
You can't make this up, man. 
You really can't at keep it 

760
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,560
simple. 
RCBTI. 

761
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,880
Remember when Leon has made Pete
Carroll A1 and done coach? 

762
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,720
Yeah, probably because of the 
fake spike that was 94. 

763
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:54,600
So so he went in the Iron Coat 
site. 

764
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,200
History is not in our favor. 
Making guys one and done well. 

765
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,120
I don't lean on that. 
That's an interesting historical

766
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,560
reference. 
I appreciate that too. 

767
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,600
That was ironically Aaron Glenn 
getting burned on the fake 

768
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:05,720
spike. 
That was Boomers team. 

769
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,960
That was Pete's first year. 
Jets were really good and then 

770
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,400
they went winless in December 
and I think it was O15. 

771
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,760
I don't even think it was O 14. 
I'm pretty sure they were O15. 

772
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,400
They were a lot to be a playoff 
team. 

773
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,000
I thought that team was good and
then lost, lost, lost, lost, 

774
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,280
lost. 
They're out. 

775
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,760
Carol's gone. 
Yep, that was 94. 

776
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:29,680
And then Kotide comes in and 
Rich goes 3 and 13. 

777
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,240
So the regression continues. 
And then the next year they go 1

778
00:38:33,240 --> 00:38:35,600
and 15. 
And then Parcells comes in nine 

779
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,560
and 7:12 and 4:00 AFC 
Championship. 

780
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:42,800
And think about the staff that 
think about the staff that Bill 

781
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,520
Parcells brought in. 
Think about the staff. 

782
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,920
I think Belichick was there, 
Weiss. 

783
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,840
I mean, think about some of the 
names on that staff. 

784
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:56,640
And now think about some of the 
names, some of the scraps that 

785
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,880
Aaron Glenn is looking through 
now to try to save his job and 

786
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:06,120
to resuscitate a franchise. 
You know, it's like this is so 

787
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,800
you guys ever get the like the 
rotisserie chickens right from 

788
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,720
the supermarket? 
Well, I don't know. 

789
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:15,080
For some reason, like my wife 
has this aversion, like even 

790
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,800
when she gets steak any like 
veal, she can't eat anything on 

791
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,960
the bone. 
But she's from Texas. 

792
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,720
I mean, I don't care how big the
bone is. 

793
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,160
I'm eating it. 
So it's my job when she gets it 

794
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:26,680
and I'll buy it sometimes as 
well. 

795
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,600
But it's my job to take all of 
the meat off of the chicken, the

796
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,600
chicken off of the bone, right? 
And I put it in a little 

797
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,160
separate pots. 
The kids could eat it, whatever.

798
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,200
Now as I'm doing that, I'm also 
eating, I'm also eating some of 

799
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,920
the good juicy stuff because 
when you get it, it's still a 

800
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,080
little bit warm because it's got
the, the, the lamp on it. 

801
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,960
And there comes a point 
invariably when you get down to 

802
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,080
the core skeleton of the 
chicken, right? 

803
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,680
And there's not, not a whole lot
to eat. 

804
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,880
And you got a nice big bowl of 
of of chicken for the house. 

805
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:57,960
And then you're like, I'm still 
hungry. 

806
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,040
I'm like, you trying to like 
whittle away a little Is that is

807
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,360
that meat F bone skin? 
Throw it out and you get very 

808
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,400
little, little teeny tiny pieces
of meat. 

809
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,160
But you're looking hard. 
It's like he's like a scavenger,

810
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,240
right? 
That's what he's looking. 

811
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,800
That's that's what he's trying 
to do with his coaching reboot. 

812
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,960
I mean, how is this going to 
work out? 

813
00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:22,520
And without a quarterback and 
let's listen, whether it's Malik

814
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,600
Willis and we've already talked 
a little bit about the 

815
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,280
quarterback options for The Jets
and we'll do it more extensively

816
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,480
getting into the draft and all 
that stuff. 

817
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,800
Not necessarily today, but like,
does anybody think that The Jets

818
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,480
are going to just transform 
themselves into a 10 or 11 win 

819
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,400
team next year? 
Now, I'm not saying that they 

820
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,200
they can't be a lot more 
competitive with a couple of 

821
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,960
good draft picks here. 
I think they could be because 

822
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,640
the old line is good and at 
least you get a chance to be a 

823
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,600
functional offense. 
And if the defense is a little 

824
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,520
bit better with some of those 
picks and free agency, yeah, I I

825
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,200
do think that The Jets could 
take a nice step in the 

826
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,080
competitive direction. 
But until that happens, man, I 

827
00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:02,240
I, I, I, I, I don't, I don't 
know how we avoid catastrophe in

828
00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:05,120
the first month of September if 
it doesn't go well immediately 

829
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,640
for Aaron Glenn coming up this 
season, 2026. 

830
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,240
I mean, again, if they lose ugly
in Week 1, it's on. 

831
00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:15,120
It's already on. 
I am in the I'm in and I'm like,

832
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,960
my faith is dwindling by the 
moment with the staff stuff. 

833
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,960
But while I was never all in on 
bringing Aaron Glenn back, I 

834
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,080
certainly need more just to give
him a chance. 

835
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,000
I do think he's a good football 
man. 

836
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,560
I do think he's a leader of men.
And I want to give that a chance

837
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,240
to root, as I've said a couple 
of times here. 

838
00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:34,280
But this is just so 
disheartening because now it's 

839
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,920
like, man, oh man. 
You look at what works in the 

840
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:42,120
NFL and let's face it, what The 
Jets are doing, what The Jets 

841
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,840
from the process of doing is 
completely counter to what 

842
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,360
generally works in the NFL. 
It's absolutely nuts here. 

843
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,160
What's this all about? 
This was about, I don't think 

844
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,320
you just dropped one in there as
well, but keep it simple. 

845
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,120
I see AG bringing in right to 
mentor Engstrat. 

846
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,520
All right, Yeah, I mean, I've 
seen that a little bit as well, 

847
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,160
we'll say. 
So you think you think you're 

848
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,280
making the firing of their since
it's a big deal that it needs to

849
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,440
be? 
No, I don't think so because 

850
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,480
what it does, I appreciate the 
text there, but I don't think it

851
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,520
changes my point at all. 
But I think it only reinforces 

852
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,080
it. 
I'm not saying that you can't 

853
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,360
get a good option out there, but
although I do think that the 

854
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,200
percentages decrease 
dramatically when you have a 

855
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,240
coach going into Year 2 on a hot
seat, as hot as anybody. 

856
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:29,040
Just go to, you know, go to go 
to any website, Google any 

857
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,160
engine and type in coaches on 
the hot seat entering next 

858
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,720
season. 
Who's hotter than Eric Glenn? 

859
00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:38,920
Who? 
So the fact that, you know, he 

860
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:45,640
already constructed a poor staff
year 10 for one, in terms of the

861
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,160
record. 
Oh, for one, in terms of really 

862
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,200
did he cleaned it up a little 
bit at the back end, but 

863
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,880
certainly the first couple of 
months was a mess dealing with 

864
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,920
the media, which is a big part 
of the job here. 

865
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,440
Dabel always kind of kept his 
his wits about him there, even 

866
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,000
when things were going wrong. 
Dabel never sweat Dabel never 

867
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,880
chirp back. 
Really Dabel, I thought 

868
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,400
presented himself in a way that 
I know he was burdened inside 

869
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,320
because he's a competitive guy, 
but he didn't let the media see 

870
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,920
that. 
Whereas you know you, you had 

871
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,760
the antagonistic approach by 
Aaron Glenn, which is good if if

872
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,280
you're winning and when you're 
not, when you get in smoked as 

873
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,680
as he was in the second-half, it
comes across as very hollow and 

874
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,800
very feeble. 
So he didn't hire the right 

875
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,720
staff. 
He didn't win and he didn't 

876
00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:26,960
really deal with the media very 
well. 

877
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,200
So what did he do? 
Well, I mean, it's a very short 

878
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:30,320
list. 
He really didn't do much. 

879
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,480
A special teams was very good. 
There were fewer penalties, you 

880
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,160
know, not an incredible amount, 
but you got to start somewhere. 

881
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,920
And and I do appreciate that. 
And I don't just gloss over that

882
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,360
or ignore that like some people 
do. 

883
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,360
Is they just bury Aaron A-Z. 
I'm not saying that. 

884
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,840
And when The Jets, you know, 
when they entered the season, 

885
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,600
they were ready to play 
football, which tells me they 

886
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,840
had a pretty good training camp 
because they should have beat 

887
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,200
the Steelers early. 
You know, really outside of the 

888
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,040
Bills in the Dallas game, The 
Jets were incredibly competitive

889
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,760
up until really after the Browns
game. 

890
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,080
So well. 
So they win before the yeah, 

891
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,640
they win. 
Before the bye, they win after 

892
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,160
the buy and that's where things 
really start to implode. 

893
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,640
But that's where the injuries 
and the trades with Q and sauce.

894
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,240
So I, I just try to be fair and 
react to you know what he's 

895
00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:16,720
trying to coach and weigh it all
the good, the bad, the stuff 

896
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:20,080
that I'm not really sure about 
and put it in a blender and hit 

897
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,760
a button and see what comes out 
and what comes out as a hot 

898
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,200
mess. 
Because right now you're now 

899
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,080
asking him to go and hire 
people. 

900
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:28,960
I, I just don't know why they 
would want to. 

901
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,440
Why do you want to work for this
guy? 

902
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,360
I, I, I don't know, you might 
love Aaron Glenn, but how do you

903
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,040
believe in him? 
It's a stable situation, you say

904
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,720
if you live in Chicago or out 
West or Indiana or down South, 

905
00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:42,840
you're going to move your whole 
family to Florham Park to coach 

906
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,640
for Aaron Glenn's Jets. 
That instability, I'm going to 

907
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,240
pass. 
I'll do a little TV for a year 

908
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,040
or I'll be a consultant and I'll
go somewhere I've got a chance 

909
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,160
to stick at Land Corleone. 
Thank you for that, buddy. 

910
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,400
What's going on? 
All right, How long is the Aaron

911
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,880
Glenn timeline if he doesn't win
in 2026 to give him a new 

912
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:04,360
quarterback if he might not be 
here in 2027? 

913
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,200
Well, listen, first of all, 
thank you for that. 

914
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:07,920
Appreciate you hopping in there,
Don Good stuff. 

915
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,040
I would think that anything that
The Jets do from a quarterback 

916
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:16,280
point of view would be with the 
intention of finding the right 

917
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,240
guy independent of who the head 
coach is. 

918
00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:20,400
Like you're and I think this is 
pretty basic stuff. 

919
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:25,560
You're not looking at the at The
Jets quarterback possibilities 

920
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,240
and saying, well, this guy looks
like somebody who can flourish 

921
00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:29,920
on their Aaron Glenn. 
I don't even know what that 

922
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,520
means. 
I mean the the offense or what 

923
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,120
is it? 
So you're just looking for 

924
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,600
somebody who's Got Talent and 
you're looking for somebody like

925
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,680
Drake May who you know, a new 
coach comes in. 

926
00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:40,240
Yep, I want to work with that 
guy. 

927
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,080
Yep, that guy's good. 
Yep, I can win with that dude. 

928
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,760
Yep, your job as a so that's 
number one, so it's not 

929
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:51,120
dependent upon Aaron Glenn and 
what's the timeline if he 

930
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,480
doesn't win? 
Thank you, J Rod, you can get 

931
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:53,760
that down. 
Thank you very much, buddy. 

932
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,080
What's the time look at J Rod on
top of it, my man, if you if he 

933
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:01,400
doesn't win in like he's not 
going to get into November. 

934
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,160
I mean, if The Jets are not, I 
don't even know, honestly. 

935
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,560
No, I don't have the schedule 
yet, so I can't even play the 

936
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,280
schedule game, which I would if 
I had it. 

937
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:17,960
Like if The Jets are, you know, 
one in six, I mean, one in five 

938
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,080
O and four. 
And it's ugly. 

939
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,600
He's getting fired early. 
Eric Glenn will absolutely be 

940
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,680
the first head coach that's 
fired and he should be at that 

941
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,400
point. 
So no, you're not doing anything

942
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,960
to save Aaron's job. 
And you know, that's one of the 

943
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,960
things that we spoke about. 
It was a common theme for the 

944
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,520
Giants situation when they 
elected to bring back Joe Shane 

945
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,160
and Brian Dabel. 
Like, all right, man, you know, 

946
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,880
are you are you are you going to
run Jackson Dorton to the ground

947
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,560
to save you job or blah, blah, 
blah. 

948
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,120
And you know, those are dynamics
that you don't really want 

949
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:53,000
hovering over team anything, 
anybody that Muji drafts while 

950
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,600
he wants his guy to succeed 
because they came in together. 

951
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,160
Muji's distinguished himself 
more than Aaron. 

952
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,640
So I would think if Aaron Glenn 
is fired during the season or 

953
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,920
right after the season, and at 
this point, take your bets 

954
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,000
collecting them right here, that
he will be well, then I would 

955
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,680
also collect bets that Mooji 
stays because I think Mooji's 

956
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,720
pretty good. 
I think that he's viewed as more

957
00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:15,040
of an asset. 
But then then Aaron, because 

958
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,720
he's earned that so far in a 
small sample. 

959
00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:19,280
But then again, you never know 
what Woody Johnson's thinking. 

960
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,880
So I could think that it could 
be the practical football 

961
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,240
thought by people who actually 
know football. 

962
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,360
And then you got Woody and his 
Dolby Football theories and 

963
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:32,680
nonsensible and nonsensical 
football thoughts and irrational

964
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,240
moves. 
Who knows what he's going to do?

965
00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:36,920
I, I really don't know. 
I'm just telling you what I 

966
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,320
would do. 
So we got a little bit on the 

967
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,040
some of the coaching mistakes 
from yesterday with Peyton and 

968
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,040
with McVeigh. 
Definitely rooting for Sam 

969
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:51,520
certainly debunked the the 
thought that you have to have a 

970
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,880
young, hot offensive coach like 
that's who you should be looking

971
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,360
for. 
And you have to marry that that 

972
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,880
young offensive minded coach 
with a with a top quarterback 

973
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,800
prospect. 
You get to and win a Super Bowl.

974
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,680
Well, I mean, again, if you just
tuned in, look who's coaching 

975
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,480
this weekend, McDonald defense, 
Rabel defense, Darnell bounce 

976
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,400
around what, half a half a 
dozen, basically half a dozen 

977
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,560
teams at this point. 
And Drake May is the one who 

978
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,400
does fit that model. 
So a very interesting weekend. 

979
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,760
I don't mind snow games. 
I know it certainly takes away 

980
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,280
from the playbook, but man, 
there's something so appealing 

981
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,320
when you sitting there and you 
just you can't even see what 

982
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,200
like where's the first down mark
or what? 

983
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,640
Where are they? 
Are they at midfield? 

984
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,520
Are they at get their own 40? 
Did they cross midfield? 

985
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,600
You know, balls popping loose 
out of players hands because you

986
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,480
can't get a good grip. 
It's just it's really it. 

987
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,200
It's amazing. 
I mean it just brings you back 

988
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,000
to when you play football on the
street when it snowed, that's 

989
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,680
the first thing we would do 
Couldn't wait. 

990
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:47,920
I'm not saying it's just fun for
those guys. 

991
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,280
I mean they're playing for their
livelihoods, but I wouldn't 

992
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,280
money and prestige and legacy 
and all that stuff. 

993
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,680
But I would imagine on on 
certainly from a defensive point

994
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,040
of view, you probably relish 
that. 

995
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,560
You don't think an offensive 
lineman you think he minds being

996
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,160
you know, seeing all that snow? 
I don't think so. 

997
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,520
What else do I got? 
Yes, The Jets situation is 

998
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,640
awful. 
I got one really, really, really

999
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,480
quick New York Knick issue or 
item All right, so the Knicks be

1000
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,800
I was in I was and I got 
something on Pitino. 

1001
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:16,960
So I was in Cincinnati over the 
weekend. 

1002
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,880
I did not get a chance to watch 
the the Knick game obvious I was

1003
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,520
following when I got on the on 
the St. 

1004
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,440
John's plane. 
I was able to see, you know, 

1005
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,160
what was going on and Knicks win
could win. 

1006
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,040
Interesting though, you know, as
they beat Philly, Knicks have a 

1007
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,400
world of issues still. 
Knicks are not going to win 

1008
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,440
anything with this group. 
I don't care what anybody says. 

1009
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,160
And what I find interesting 
about this is that the two 

1010
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,280
players that I'm most down on, 
like the two players that I want

1011
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:45,360
off the team, Cat for sure and 
Mikhail Bridges more and more 

1012
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:50,800
and more think about how non how
much of A non impact they had as

1013
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,880
the game went on. 
Cat played 16 minutes 16 and had

1014
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:59,840
six fouls and Bridges was 3 for 
16 and shot one for 9 from 3 

1015
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:03,000
point territory. 
So now the Sixers aren't the 

1016
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,320
Thunder or or Denver whatever, 
but pretty good, got some talent

1017
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:07,880
and the Knicks have not been 
playing well. 

1018
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,000
So you certainly not going to 
thumb your nose at any win. 

1019
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,960
But how about Mitch? 
How about Shamit, my guy? 

1020
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,480
Shamit, you know, I love him. 
How about dudes playing well? 

1021
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,120
I mean, maybe there is a way to 
salvage this, but they still got

1022
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,960
to make a trade. 
Like there's just there. 

1023
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,640
There's just no evidence that 
it's going to rectify itself 

1024
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,680
here with Kat and with Mike 
Brown and his usage and the 

1025
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,480
things he's not good at. 
And then, you know, and I talked

1026
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:31,920
about this extensively a week 
ago. 

1027
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,240
If you guys are new to the pod, 
go and find it on the on the 

1028
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:36,160
YouTube page there. 
It's right there. 

1029
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:40,840
The the national media was 
parachuting in strongly. 

1030
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,840
I know Ramona Shelbourne, 
Shelburne, you know what I'm 

1031
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,760
talking about. 
A good reporter, not trying to 

1032
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,600
mess her name up intentionally. 
She's good. 

1033
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,520
She had a good report that some 
of the Knicks were very unhappy 

1034
00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:56,760
with Mike Brown hugging Draymond
after what went down with CAD, 

1035
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,880
grabbing his ankle, tripping him
and all that smack that he's 

1036
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,760
been talking all these years. 
No kidding. 

1037
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,800
I mean, what did I say? 
That's common sense. 

1038
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,800
Now she's got the report. 
I told you that six days ago. 

1039
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,360
So there are issues that are not
going to be resolved with the 

1040
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,440
New York Knicks, right? 
One of them is Cat and is is 

1041
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,680
pension for dumb fouls and 
sloppiness. 

1042
00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:17,760
And the other one and he's soft 
at times. 

1043
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,960
And the other one is Michael 
Bridges, who simply is not the 

1044
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,360
guy that we thought we were 
getting. 

1045
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,000
Not that we thought we were 
getting Scottie Pippen, but did 

1046
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,400
anybody else think that Bridges 
was at least just a little bit 

1047
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,840
better defensively? 
A little bit, you know, and I 

1048
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,000
know that OG escaped some of the
heat and he played well the 

1049
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,920
other day too. 
But at least OG plays with like 

1050
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,160
a tenacity that he doesn't 
chirp, doesn't talk smack, but 

1051
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,800
he bodies you up and he plays 
hard and he dunks and he like he

1052
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:45,040
just plays with a vengeance, 
like a controlled vengeance, a 

1053
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:49,320
controlled rage and inner fire 
that I appreciate. 

1054
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,720
So I'm not looking to get rid of
OG. 

1055
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,000
Bridges, do whatever you want 
and you get rid of him. 

1056
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,960
Cat, do whatever you want, get 
rid of him. 

1057
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,280
So I just thought it was 
interesting the Knicks finally 

1058
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,920
had a good win and, you know, 
two of the guys, especially Cat.

1059
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,280
But if you're really no 
basketball, you did not absolve 

1060
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,600
Bridges from any sort of blame. 
I think everybody just kind of 

1061
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,480
parachutes in lazily and pounds 
on Cat. 

1062
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:17,280
He's an easy target, like the 
big kind of goofy center, you 

1063
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,280
know, who we perceive to be a 
little soft, whereas the other 

1064
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,520
guy who plays every night, the 
NB as Iron Man, kind of escapes 

1065
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,440
any sort of criticisms. 
No, what not for me. 

1066
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,840
I think Bridges is soft. 
I think he's just a different 

1067
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,640
kind of soft there. 
So that was interesting. 

1068
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,320
And I get to get a win. 
I just don't think it changes 

1069
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:34,240
much. 
I really don't. 

1070
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,160
I don't think it changes 
anything, as a matter of fact. 

1071
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,480
So that is that for there. 
I mentioned St. 

1072
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,520
John's, Willie under score, 185 
BT Where do we listen to you for

1073
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:43,520
the St. 
John's broadcast? 

1074
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,600
All the best from Downtown 
Brooklyn. 

1075
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,800
I actually lived in Downtown 
Brooklyn, not far from Montague 

1076
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:49,800
St. 
Thank you for that. 

1077
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:54,920
It was my first apartment right 
out of college and the only 

1078
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,760
reason I was able to afford it 
was because my best friend, his 

1079
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,440
dad, owned it. 
And you want to talk about a 

1080
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,360
score? 
I mean, his dad and his dad's 

1081
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:08,600
brother bought brownstones in 
Downtown Brooklyn and like I 

1082
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,080
think the early 70s, I think 
certainly 70s, I think it was 

1083
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,920
the early 70s, maybe mid either 
way that owned the whole 

1084
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,760
building and we had the top 
floor and I think we paid 300 

1085
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,840
bucks a month. 
Oh my God, that was right out of

1086
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,360
college. 
Man attended bar. 

1087
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,560
I was interning at WFANI was 
trying to get into the business.

1088
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,720
So I know Downtown Brooklyn 
pretty well. 

1089
00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:32,960
I got, I must have gotten towed.
I must have had my car or 

1090
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,360
somebody else's car towed at 
least five times when I lived 

1091
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,040
there for about the year and a 
half that I lived there, 

1092
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:40,960
couldn't park and I had no money
to pay for a garage. 

1093
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,240
So, you know, you come home, 
you, you know, you want to get 

1094
00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:46,040
on with your night, you just 
park the car wherever you park 

1095
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,520
the car, you get home in the 
morning. 

1096
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:51,040
It's not there. 
That is an unsettling feeling. 

1097
00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:54,120
But where do you listen to Saint
John's? 

1098
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,240
We are now on the radio. 
So last couple of years we have 

1099
00:53:57,240 --> 00:54:00,480
not been, which I thought it was
a major disservice to, to the 

1100
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,880
school and the profile and they 
were trying to get on, they were

1101
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,320
trying to get on the fan, as a 
matter of fact. 

1102
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,960
But you know, there's a 
relationship which I got and I, 

1103
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,280
I respect and I, I get it with 
Rutgers. 

1104
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:10,800
So there was some conflict 
there. 

1105
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,360
But I know that at one point 
they were trying to get 

1106
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:15,920
something done and it just 
didn't work out. 

1107
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,120
St. 
John's used to be on the fan. 

1108
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:18,920
I used to, used to listen to him
on the fan all the time. 

1109
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:25,720
So now it's 880 and it's 1050 
ESPN or 10:50 AMI don't know if 

1110
00:54:25,720 --> 00:54:28,440
it's still ESPNI know 880 is 
ESPN 1050. 

1111
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,360
ESPN used to be ESPN when I was 
there. 

1112
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,280
I don't think it's still ESPN 
might be Deporte's. 

1113
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,840
Whatever it is, it's 1050. 
All right, So it's it's either 

1114
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,240
on 880 or 10:50 and then it's 
still on the varsity app, which 

1115
00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:41,640
by the way, is really, really 
good. 

1116
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,520
So what you hear coming out of 
your speakers in the car with me

1117
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,400
and Mink, you will also hear on 
the varsity app, which is 

1118
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,280
terrific. 
So if you're not in the area or 

1119
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,120
if say, you know, because I know
the AM signals, signals a little

1120
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,640
spotty in certain, certain spots
to be redundant. 

1121
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,440
You know, the app, it's free 
downloaded, stream it right into

1122
00:54:58,440 --> 00:54:59,200
the car. 
Boom. 

1123
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,400
Good. 
Like until we got on the radio, 

1124
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,480
that's how my kids would really,
most of my son would really 

1125
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:05,640
watch the St. 
John's game. 

1126
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,240
He wanted to hear dad calling 
the games. 

1127
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,520
And we weren't on the radio for 
a couple years, which was 

1128
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,360
driving me nuts. 
Good to be back on. 

1129
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:15,080
So he would watch the game on TV
and he would just put the app 

1130
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:16,360
on. 
So that's really good. 

1131
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,800
But yeah, that's where we are. 
So one more thing, and I'm going

1132
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,960
to do this a little bit more 
extensively at some point 

1133
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,280
because I think there's so much 
there, right? 

1134
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,920
And by the way, J Rod, any more 
comments that pop in, whether 

1135
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,600
it's about the NFL, The Jets, 
obviously Arnold Super Bowl 

1136
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,240
match up, debunking the NFL 
narrative about offensive 

1137
00:55:35,240 --> 00:55:38,040
coaches, a little something on 
the Knicks, the Johnnies, 

1138
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:39,440
whatever. 
I mean, you can just fire them 

1139
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:40,360
up. 
We're going to go a little bit 

1140
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,760
more here. 
So over the weekend, as I 

1141
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,440
mentioned before, I'm in 
Cincinnati, OH for Saint John 

1142
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,720
Xavier. 
Now, back in the day, I used to 

1143
00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:50,720
love this. 
I used to travel all the time. 

1144
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,400
So the previous configuration of
the Big East, whether it was, 

1145
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,440
you know, West Virginia, 
Virginia Tech, you know, 

1146
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:03,560
obviously Syracuse and Pit, like
I've been to all those venues, 

1147
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,680
Miami back in the day, and I 
loved it. 

1148
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,400
Like that's when I was younger. 
I was single, I have no kids and

1149
00:56:10,720 --> 00:56:13,960
I could travel and really the 
reason why I was able to do it. 

1150
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,800
This was the biggest impediment 
not I could still travel as I 

1151
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,080
traveled this weekend with with 
a family. 

1152
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:25,520
But for a long time Saint John's
radio games were on with within 

1153
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,400
the family of the station that I
used to work at. 

1154
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,720
So when I was at 10:50, ESPN 
Radio, Stephen A, you know, 

1155
00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:34,520
Michael, Don Greedy and goal 
Mike and Mike in the morning, 

1156
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,880
Colin was there that that that 
time stamp, right. 

1157
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,560
Well, St. 
John's was on either 1050, 

1158
00:56:41,720 --> 00:56:45,240
either, you know, on the main 
station or like I think radial 

1159
00:56:45,240 --> 00:56:48,760
Disney, which may have been 560 
or some other subset of the 

1160
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,200
company. 
So it was easy to justify, Hey, 

1161
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,600
St. 
John's is going to Notre Dame. 

1162
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,800
Can I make the trip? 
Yeah, because the game was going

1163
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,160
to be on our station. 
And you know, I was, I was doing

1164
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,960
night shows and for the most 
part, I wasn't really full time 

1165
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,600
in the day part yet, like 1:50 
like or whatever, like I was 

1166
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,840
with Jody Mack or Stephen A. 
So I would travel all the time. 

1167
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,200
I travel now for the NCAA 
tournament. 

1168
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,440
You know, I'll drive down to 
Philly for Villanova, I'll drive

1169
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,360
up to Providence, do a Rhode 
Island game. 

1170
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,000
I'll obviously go out to Seton 
Hall, do Seton Hall games. 

1171
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,440
But it's just now it's easier. 
I'd make my own schedule now. 

1172
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,480
But that which is why I traveled
this weekend, but the last bunch

1173
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,760
of years I've not been traveling
and man, I miss it. 

1174
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:34,040
It is awesome going to these 
other venues and the Cintas 

1175
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:38,640
Center is absolutely fantastic. 
It's fantastic and I always do 

1176
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,400
was good. 
Matter of fact, the last time I 

1177
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:44,880
was at the Cintas Center, which 
is Xavier's home was 2015. 

1178
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,760
And I mean that's jeez, that's 
so long ago. 

1179
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,160
And they won and that was I 
remember right. 

1180
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,560
She Jordan hit a massive 3 late 
and I think Jamal Branch, if you

1181
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,560
remember you were a big St. 
John's fan, had a big steal in a

1182
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,400
bucket and that was the win that
kind of punctuated St. 

1183
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,840
John's resume. 
They needed a quad one Rd. win 

1184
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,680
and they got it and it now the 
metrics kind of split or or 

1185
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,760
tilted favorably. 
Saint John's got in the big 

1186
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,720
dance and that was the first 
NCAA game I ever did. 

1187
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,320
So that one meant so much. 
They lost. 

1188
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,160
Of course, the San Diego State 
won it done. 

1189
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,080
But it was awesome because, you 
know, I started doing these 

1190
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,760
games in O3O4 when Mike Jarvis 
was the coach, and then all 

1191
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:23,000
those years with no tournaments,
it really meant the world to me 

1192
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,240
to finally sit there and go to 
an NCAA tournament. 

1193
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,680
I really did. 
So I'll never forget that 2015 

1194
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,080
game. 
So anyway, it was a fun weekend.

1195
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:32,160
St. 
John's was down a bunch. 

1196
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:37,160
They found a way to win which 
which was amazing and and now 

1197
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,000
Saint John's is like they're 
going to be ranked that should 

1198
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,520
be coming out in 2 hours. 
Their numbers are great. 

1199
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,360
There are five seed right now 
moving up big win, but bigger 

1200
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,040
picture. 
All right, let me just get this 

1201
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,560
in here real fast. 
Robert Huertas. 

1202
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,440
What up Rob BT just a baseball 
mansion sort of change for 

1203
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:51,200
football. 
That's all right. 

1204
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:52,360
I was going to do a hot stove 
anyway. 

1205
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:57,400
When you do when you do hot 
stole news play gathering proud 

1206
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:02,600
song, the gathering crowd song 
from this week in baseball as 

1207
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,200
the opener. 
Listen, there's certain things 

1208
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,000
like certain songs you can't 
play based on trademark stuff 

1209
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,080
and and all that. 
So I've got to be careful. 

1210
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,440
But man, oh man, I I I mean this
week in baseball, Oh my God, 

1211
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,400
I'll give you a little aside 
here, very quick aside. 

1212
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,160
I know I always say that I'll 
give you a quick aside and then 

1213
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:20,800
nothing I say is ever quick. 
I can't help it. 

1214
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,480
I can't help it, but I'll try to
make this quick. 

1215
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,640
So I want to get back to Pitino.
So anyway, so baseball, when 

1216
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:31,160
this week in baseball would come
up, you'd hear the theme song. 

1217
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,120
I would be in my basement 
watching that, right? 

1218
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:38,200
And I remember we had just put 
down the tile and it was, you 

1219
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,920
know, it was very modest. 
You know, if you live, you know,

1220
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,280
the homes in in Brooklyn, not 
the brownstone that my buddy's 

1221
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,520
dad owned. 
I mean, the homes that the home 

1222
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:50,320
that I was in, it's like home, 
home, home, home, very close, 

1223
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,640
you know, a little tiny 
driveway, you know, just just 

1224
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,040
average homes, right? 
The value now is ridiculous. 

1225
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,200
But back then just nothing fancy
at all. 

1226
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,360
A little teeny backyard. 
I told you about the basketball 

1227
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,800
court, the dead trap where you 
had a dunk because you couldn't 

1228
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:04,960
take jump shots. 
That was my my yard, the 

1229
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,800
basement. 
I guess my dad finally came up 

1230
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,240
with a few bucks and start. 
And because what I most of the 

1231
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,720
years it was like a boiler, like
you go down there. 

1232
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,040
It was scary. 
Like I when I was like 5-6 years

1233
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:16,360
old, I wouldn't want to go down 
there. 

1234
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,760
I was scared to go down. 
It was there was no lights, 

1235
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:23,640
there was no bathroom, just as 
big as boiler and like hammers 

1236
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,120
and wrenches and I don't know 
whatever else was there. 

1237
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:27,600
I didn't really go down there. 
Too much. 

1238
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,240
I didn't even want to go down 
there and play hide and seek. 

1239
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:30,720
It was I was, it was scared 
right? 

1240
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,520
Anyway, they put down this tile 
and they start to refurbish the 

1241
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,040
basement. 
Nothing fancy. 

1242
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,240
But now we got a little TVA 
little bathroom perfect like I 

1243
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:40,800
loved it. 
That's where me and my dad 

1244
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,920
watched all the knit games and 
all the baseball and stuff. 

1245
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:47,200
It was pretty much our man cave.
My my sister very rarely went 

1246
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:48,920
down there. 
It's just me and my dad and my 

1247
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:50,440
mom will watch a movie down 
there sometime. 

1248
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:52,800
So when baseball and this 
weekend baseball would come up, 

1249
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:58,080
the theme song, Oh my God, that 
I love it, I would actually run.

1250
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,000
And the reason I tell you about 
the tiles because it was so cold

1251
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,800
down there and the tile was so 
slippery. 

1252
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,560
And back then I had those 
feeding pajamas because I was 

1253
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:10,040
young, you know, like, you 
actually just dig in like a 

1254
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,520
whole uniform and your feet are 
covered not with socks, but that

1255
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:13,520
look, you know what I'm talking 
about. 

1256
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,360
A lot of kids still have them, 
like the onesies, I guess is a 

1257
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,840
better way to put it. 
But they would slid so 

1258
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,280
perfectly. 
So I would be like Pete Rose 

1259
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,560
sliding. 
And as the montage of this week 

1260
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:28,920
in baseball is going 
sequentially through, I am 

1261
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:33,360
emulating each player. 
Not like Dwight Gooden's wind 

1262
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,120
up. 
I remember Steve Garvey running 

1263
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,160
a front round first base when he
when he hits first base, when he

1264
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,800
hits the home run of the World 
Series for the Dodgers in 84. 

1265
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:42,920
I mean, I, I know the entire 
sequence. 

1266
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:46,280
Donnie, of course, right. 
Oh my God, Mike Schmidt, when he

1267
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,640
hits his 500th home run and he 
starts doing that little dance 

1268
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,480
before he gets down the line. 
And I would do that over and 

1269
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,320
over and over with that 
background. 

1270
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:57,320
But for, you know, purposes of 
of this, I, I, I can't just use 

1271
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,440
that without permission, But 
that would be absolutely money. 

1272
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,000
All right, That wasn't as long 
as I thought it be. 

1273
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:08,520
So Rick Pitino won his 900th 
game this weekend, 900. 

1274
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:13,080
Now, when you look at this, and 
I've said this before, but I 

1275
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,120
want to try to substantiate just
a little bit. 

1276
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,360
All right, you think about, all 
right, who's the greatest coach 

1277
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,520
of all time? 
You really, it's obviously a 

1278
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,920
subjective exercise, but when 
you really think about the 

1279
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:26,640
names, there's really not that 
many. 

1280
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,560
And listen, I could rattle off 
four or five without working, 

1281
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,000
looking down the notes. 
I want to be sure I don't miss 

1282
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,400
anybody. 
Of course, you can go Wooden, 

1283
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:32,920
Coach K, that's everybody's top 
2. 

1284
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:39,240
But when you look at them, you 
you have to understand what I 

1285
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:44,320
think elevates Rick Pitino to 
possibly the number one spot. 

1286
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,040
All right, possibly. 
Let me flush through it here. 

1287
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:51,000
So John Wooden, all right, 
generally for the book, the 

1288
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:56,280
pyramid of success, you know, 10
titles, 12 years, the godfather 

1289
01:02:56,360 --> 01:03:00,440
of college hoops, right coach K5
titles, most wins ever. 

1290
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:05,800
I think it's 12102. 
Dean Smith, UNC, right, a couple

1291
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,560
of the championships, Adolf Rupp
back in the day, University of 

1292
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,600
Kentucky 4 champions now pre 
segregation. 

1293
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:16,680
So it's you got to measure that.
You got to throw that in or, or 

1294
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:17,920
when things were still 
segregated. 

1295
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,840
Bobby United, Indiana, three 
titles, undefeated and 76. 

1296
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:25,040
Roy Williams, three titles, 
Kansas UNC. 

1297
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,360
Those are the names that 
generally if you're having a 

1298
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:31,000
conversation and people 
understand the history and they 

1299
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,720
know about the game, they will 
throw that name out. 

1300
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,000
Those those are the names. 
If you don't hear those names, 

1301
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,120
it's a conversation you should 
just check out of. 

1302
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:41,080
Now, to be fair to the 
conversation, I know you've got 

1303
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:44,920
to also throw Jim Calhoun out 
there with three championships. 

1304
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,480
Jim Calhoun three, I think 
you've got to throw in there at 

1305
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:48,560
least. 
Again, just have the 

1306
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,080
conversation. 
Jay Wright with two 

1307
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,920
championships at Nova and think 
about who knows what he I mean, 

1308
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,440
he's young still just checked 
out. 

1309
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:56,720
He's like, I'm done with this 
nonsense. 

1310
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,880
Tom Izzo, great coach. 
Denny Crum with a couple of the 

1311
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:02,440
championships at a bunch of 
Final Fours. 

1312
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:05,480
Louisville great Bayheim, ton of
wins. 

1313
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,800
I think Bayheim underachieved 
more than he should have a great

1314
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,080
coach, but we'll throw Bayheim 
in there anyway. 

1315
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,920
When you look at those guys 
right, you know Wooden was at 

1316
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,040
one school, Coach Ki know he was
an army, but primarily one 

1317
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:19,640
school. 
Dean Smith, one school. 

1318
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,680
Adolph Rupp, one school. 
Bobby Knight, 2 schools. 

1319
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:26,280
Texas Tech, but mostly Indiana. 
Roy Williams 2 schools, both 

1320
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,160
blue bloods. 
UKUNC and then obviously 

1321
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,600
Calhoun. 
I know he went in coach D3 after

1322
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,880
that and Northeastern before 
UConn, but UConn, Jay Wright, 

1323
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:38,160
Hofstra, but pretty much 
Villanova is old Michigan State 

1324
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:41,080
and behind Syracuse and Denny 
Crumb, Louisville, right? 

1325
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:45,440
So when when I when I ask the 
question who's the greatest 

1326
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,120
college coach of all time, I'm 
not looking at like 

1327
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,040
championships. 
I'm looking at context, right? 

1328
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,000
And when you incorporate the 
context of what I'm about to 

1329
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,600
incorporate, you can't tell me. 
Rick Pitino doesn't have a seat 

1330
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:01,080
at the table for the best coach 
of all time in college. 

1331
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:05,520
You can't tell me that. 
So #1 longevity. 

1332
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:09,280
And if he now some of the issues
he created himself, like there's

1333
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,800
a reason he had to go to Greece.
We understand that, right? 

1334
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,240
But think about the years, 
couple of years after Providence

1335
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,960
coaching the Knicks, right? 
Couple of years and he was good 

1336
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:19,480
with the Knicks. 
They made the playoffs after a 

1337
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,080
down lean run with Hubie Brown, 
etcetera. 

1338
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,480
Early, you know, couple of years
into Patrick's career, if you 

1339
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,840
don't really know the timeline, 
if you're too young, but he made

1340
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:28,400
the playoffs his first year with
the Knicks, right? 

1341
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:32,040
And set the Knicks up to be very
good eventually when Pat Riley, 

1342
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,480
even though they were coaches 
after him, that came in like 

1343
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:38,360
that was the core, right? 
So if he didn't coach the Knicks

1344
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,240
for a couple of years, two 
years, if he didn't coach the 

1345
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,960
Celtics for a minute, if he 
didn't go to Greece, Rick Pitino

1346
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:45,880
would have the most wins of any 
coach, right? 

1347
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:47,600
So, but that doesn't even 
matter. 

1348
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,800
Like if you want to tell me 
Coach K's the greatest college 

1349
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,320
coach of all time, I respect 
that. 

1350
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,440
I'm not here to downgrade 
others. 

1351
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,960
I'm just here to properly 
position where I think Rick 

1352
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,280
Pitino should be. 
And I think it really depends. 

1353
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,120
And this is sometimes 
frustrating to me when I had 

1354
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,080
these conversations, like some 
people are so bottom line and I 

1355
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,880
was doing this the other day, 
like whether it's an Aaron Judge

1356
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:12,920
or a Stockton or a Barkley or 
Ewing or a Malone, like can you 

1357
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,480
be an all time. 
I'm great without a championship

1358
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,200
ring is validation. 
I believe that you can, but many

1359
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,960
of you don't, especially if 
you're a quarterback, right. 

1360
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:23,000
I didn't win. 
I didn't win. 

1361
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,160
You're such a bottom line 
assessor. 

1362
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,440
I don't I don't really just go 
to that. 

1363
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,440
I incorporate many other 
elements and and different 

1364
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,520
criteria to help me get to my 
answer. 

1365
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,280
Now, I don't know the answer to 
this, but I think it's very 

1366
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,480
fascinating. 
Do I think that Mike Schefsky 

1367
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:43,000
could have gone to five schools 
and had the success that Rick 

1368
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,880
Pitino did at all those schools?
I don't know the answer to that,

1369
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:47,760
but I know that Rick did it all 
right. 

1370
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,440
I know that Rick Pitino did it. 
So I think that Roy Williams 

1371
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:54,000
could have bounced around and 
and gone to a moribund Big East 

1372
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,080
program like St. 
John's has been forever. 

1373
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,480
And I know Nils helped clearly, 
but and and elevated them the 

1374
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:00,920
way Rick's elevated St. 
John's. 

1375
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,440
I don't know. 
But I know that Rick has, you 

1376
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:06,440
know, Bobby Knight went to his 
second spot at Texas Tech, was 

1377
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,600
competitive. 
But you know, where they. 

1378
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,000
Yeah, I don't, I don't know. 
I I don't know that he's doing 

1379
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,600
it beyond that. 
I think he had an expiration 

1380
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,320
point on how he coached and he 
wasn't very adaptable. 

1381
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,960
The thing about Rick. 
And he's always, always talked 

1382
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:20,640
about that. 
What's Jack saying here at Jack 

1383
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,280
Benstead? 
Jack Benstead got a quick story 

1384
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:24,680
for you talking about college 
ball. 

1385
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:29,640
My uncle used to coach Pitt and 
Navy back in the 80s and 90s and

1386
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:34,680
his name was Paul Evans. 
Evans, who was the coach at 

1387
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:36,200
Pitt? 
Was it Meyer? 

1388
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:39,960
Why do I have that name to pull?
Either way, nice coaching 

1389
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:40,720
family. 
I love it. 

1390
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:42,680
That's why. 
And the 80s nineties biggies was

1391
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,040
was the stuff of legends, the 
requiem for biggies. 

1392
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:49,480
You have to see it anyway. 
Like what makes a great coach? 

1393
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,280
Well, all right, how many 
championships do you have? 

1394
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,480
I'm not saying you can't, you 
can't start there. 

1395
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,640
That's fine. 
It can't be the only thing that 

1396
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:57,720
you look at. 
How many wins whatever. 

1397
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,840
To me, I think, and I've always 
said this, I'm consistent with 

1398
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,280
this might not be right for you,
but it's right for me. 

1399
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:08,920
Adaptability and there is nobody
that has adapted more and one 

1400
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:14,200
more and and like and one on on 
such a grand scale at so many 

1401
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,960
different places so many 
different ways during so many 

1402
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:21,600
different iterations of the 
sport than Rick Pitino has. 

1403
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,920
Are you telling me that if Bobby
Knight was coaching that he put 

1404
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,600
up with this nonsense the 
transfer port of the get. 

1405
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:30,960
It's no way the way he was 
wired, he couldn't do that, you 

1406
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:36,279
know, And this is not the shade 
John Wooden, But you know #1 

1407
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:39,840
everybody thinks that, you know,
John Wooden was all the UCLA 

1408
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:41,960
squeaky clean. 
Let me tell you something about 

1409
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,240
UCLA. 
Read some books, all right? 

1410
01:08:44,279 --> 01:08:47,279
Educate yourself about the 
history of this stuff if you 

1411
01:08:47,279 --> 01:08:48,680
want to pop into the 
conversation. 

1412
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,200
Because UCLA and John Wooden had
a money guy as well. 

1413
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,640
They had a money guy who was 
handing out money the old school

1414
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,600
way, which is part of the reason
why they built up the roster the

1415
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:00,720
way they did. 
And when you built up the roster

1416
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,880
the way they did, that's part of
the reason why you win 10 titles

1417
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:07,080
in 12 years. 
Now, that's not to say that his 

1418
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:14,560
team first mantra, his, his, 
his, his unwillingness to be to 

1419
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:18,640
compromise certain virtues. 
Like I believe in most if not 

1420
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:22,479
everything that John Wooden was 
espousing, like the principles 

1421
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,080
of leadership and all those 
things that pyramid of success, 

1422
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,399
which I have read. 
I believe in that for sure. 

1423
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:31,560
But that doesn't mean that he 
would do what Pitino has done. 

1424
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,960
Like we can only theorize. 
We can only guess, right? 

1425
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,720
But with Pitino, he's done it. 
That's why I think it makes it 

1426
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,720
so interesting. 
Dean Smith, Dean Smith's had 

1427
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:43,640
some of the greatest players in 
the history of college 

1428
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,080
basketball. 
And Dean Smith was a gentleman. 

1429
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:49,479
And Dean Smith was a pioneer in 
the sense that if you know about

1430
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,080
college, bet like now, I would 
not want to watch this, nor 

1431
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,640
would I want to play here, like 
under the system. 

1432
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:58,440
But Dean Smith created the the 
four corners offense. 

1433
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,280
Just spin the ball around the 
corner, keep it away like hot 

1434
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,400
potato, you know, no shot clock,
kill the timer. 

1435
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,120
I mean, does that sound fun? 
Yeah. 

1436
01:10:06,440 --> 01:10:07,920
We're going to go out there. 
We're going to pass it all 

1437
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:09,800
night, and we're not going to 
look the score a ton. 

1438
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,840
Now that that's an 
oversimplification of what Dean 

1439
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,640
Smith did, clearly, but you got 
Jordan, you had Worthy, you had 

1440
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:17,920
Perkins. 
Think about all these players 

1441
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:19,920
that he had won two 
championships, all right? 

1442
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,280
Now, 2's better than one and 
one's better than none. 

1443
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:24,120
Could you make the case to Dean 
Smith? 

1444
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,440
And at that point, when you were
the head coach in North 

1445
01:10:26,440 --> 01:10:33,080
Carolina, they were probably 567
teams you had to fend off for 

1446
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:36,800
the top players in the country. 
You had to fend off Coach K 

1447
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:41,680
maybe for a year or two in the 
ACC fend off Maryland, maybe one

1448
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:44,040
or two teams out West. 
Not Gonzaga then, but like a 

1449
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:47,560
UCLA, all right, maybe UNLV when
when they were doing what they 

1450
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:51,800
were doing when with, with Larry
Johnson and Stacey Albin and 

1451
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:56,640
that crew, you know, maybe a 
beheim, you know, for a couple 

1452
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,600
of years in the Big East. 
But it, it's a short list is 

1453
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,880
what I'm saying. 
When you're a blue blood, you 

1454
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,800
get whoever you want and a 2 
championships is great, but it's

1455
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,840
not like it's, you know, 345, 
you know, Bobby Knight's not 

1456
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:09,680
adaptable. 
Who knows about Adolf Rupp? 

1457
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,320
I mean, you've heard horror 
stories about Adolf Rupp as Rupp

1458
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:15,080
as a human with certain things. 
I, I never met the man. 

1459
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,720
So I, I don't, I don't want to 
label him something there, but a

1460
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,520
lot of people said it. 
I, I don't know. 

1461
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,240
And then Roy Williams, you know,
was phenomenal. 

1462
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:25,240
There's no doubt three titles 
and he went to two blue bloods, 

1463
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,080
Kansas and UNC and he filled big
shoes at UNC. 

1464
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:29,640
That's not easy. 
So you can points there. 

1465
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:33,000
But Rick Pitino, think about 
this guys. 

1466
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:36,000
I mean, you go to Providence, it
was a nobody. 

1467
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,920
You get to the Final Four, all 
right, You win national 

1468
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,320
championships at Kentucky and 
Louisville. 

1469
01:11:41,480 --> 01:11:44,160
When you go to Kentucky, you're 
on the you're a step away from 

1470
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:48,200
the death, the death sentence 
where they like SMU football, 

1471
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,800
where they pull the plug and 
there is no basketball. 

1472
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:54,480
He goes there within a couple of
years, championship goes to 

1473
01:11:54,480 --> 01:11:56,920
Louisville, Louisville's down 
championship. 

1474
01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:00,760
And by the way, he won very 
differently at Kentucky. 

1475
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:04,120
It was more about offenses, at 
Louisville, more about defense, 

1476
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:08,600
more grinded out adaptability. 
Who was the first coach to 

1477
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,160
really embrace the math behind 
the three-point shot? 

1478
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,520
Rick Pitino, innovator. 
Not to mention pressing and 

1479
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,120
trapping and playing 94 feet of 
defense. 

1480
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:18,840
Rick Pitino was up there as 
well. 

1481
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:22,440
So you talk about that, you 
know, you go to St. 

1482
01:12:22,440 --> 01:12:24,200
John's and before that you go to
you go to Iona. 

1483
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,040
Now Iona, I don't give him a ton
of credit for what he did at 

1484
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,760
Iona, only because Iona has had 
some really good teams over the 

1485
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,800
years. 
It's not like he went to the Mac

1486
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:35,320
and he took over my school like 
Marist, which is doing well this

1487
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,840
year and has a really good 
coaching coach done, but hasn't 

1488
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:41,320
been to the NCAA tournament 
since Rick Smith's in 1987. 

1489
01:12:41,480 --> 01:12:43,560
Like if he would have gone to 
Marist and taking them to a 

1490
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,360
bunch of tournaments like he did
Iona, I I think I'd have more 

1491
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,800
elevation there than merely 
going to Iona and then kind of 

1492
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,000
getting them back to where they 
were. 

1493
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:54,320
Not that not that far or not 
that long ago, but still he did 

1494
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:55,840
it. 
And then you come to Saint 

1495
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:59,040
John's. 
You come to Saint John's and at 

1496
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:01,760
the press conference, I mean, 
you want to talk about getting 

1497
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,880
chills, man. 
And I believed it. 

1498
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,840
But even when I heard it, I'm 
like, man, that is some bold 

1499
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:07,640
stuff right there. 
How? 

1500
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:11,840
Because I've lived it since O3 
being part of the fabric of the 

1501
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,240
of the school, being part of the
broadcast team. 

1502
01:13:14,440 --> 01:13:17,920
So I've seen all the bad hires, 
I've seen the lack of budget, 

1503
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:19,760
I've seen the antiquated 
facilities. 

1504
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,080
I've seen it all, man. 
And that's why I'm so happy for 

1505
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:23,120
St. 
John's, right? 

1506
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:27,800
I've seen a school president who
didn't value basketball at all, 

1507
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:29,120
right? 
I lived it. 

1508
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,200
I lived it. 
They weren't always doing 

1509
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:32,920
charters. 
Like, trust me, I, I lived in, 

1510
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,040
he's out there at the press 
conference and he's like, go 

1511
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:37,800
ahead, we're going to Saint 
John's can be back in the big 

1512
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,560
way, I guarantee it. 
I'm like, man, this guy's got 

1513
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,160
stones, man. 
And I, I kind of felt that like 

1514
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:44,800
he's, he's going to do it. 
I was pumped. 

1515
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,760
And I told you he was going to 
be the coach before that really 

1516
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,040
happened, by the way, I didn't 
know that. 

1517
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,560
But Saint John's had to get to a
place as a university Catholic 

1518
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:58,760
background where they had to, 
you know, swallow some of those 

1519
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,800
maybe Catholic virtues that that
we know. 

1520
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,880
And they did. 
And you know what day if you're 

1521
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,720
a Catholic, you also believe in 
forgiveness and repentance. 

1522
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,280
And Rick's talked about that. 
So that's just a little Side 

1523
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:13,040
Story. 
Who else has won so many 

1524
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,560
different ways at so many 
different places like Rick? 

1525
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:19,280
Now, if you think that the 
height of greatness is just the 

1526
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:24,320
the absolute number of 
championships, well, then you 

1527
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:26,640
might think that Bill Russell's 
the greatest basketball player 

1528
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:28,960
that ever lived. 
I don't I think that's I know 

1529
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:32,000
it's Michael Jordan. 
You know, I think the seconds 

1530
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,920
Kareem with six MVPS and six 
championships. 

1531
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:39,680
If you think that, you know, 
championships or the end all be 

1532
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:43,080
all, well, then you might think 
that Yogi Berra had no 

1533
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,120
disrespect to the yokester, but 
that Yogi's the greatest catcher

1534
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:47,200
of all time. 
I don't. 

1535
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,880
I think that's Johnny Bench. 
You know where Yogi won a lot 

1536
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,480
more. 
Now, Yogi was with Mickey and 

1537
01:14:53,480 --> 01:14:56,440
Whitey and great players, but 
Johnny Bench was with the Big 

1538
01:14:56,440 --> 01:14:59,760
Red Machine, so he also won. 
But he didn't win like Yogi. 

1539
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:01,440
Nobody did. 
One of the biggest winners, one 

1540
01:15:01,440 --> 01:15:02,880
of the greatest winners in all 
sport. 

1541
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,120
So it all depends what you 
value. 

1542
01:15:05,440 --> 01:15:08,800
To me, the greatest indicator of
somebody who's the best at what 

1543
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:15,400
they do right is when you take 
your skill set, whatever it is, 

1544
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:20,040
whatever outlet it might be, and
you take it somewhere that is 

1545
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,480
either down or has a totally 
different philosophy. 

1546
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:29,600
And basically overnight there's 
progress and then very shortly 

1547
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:33,840
thereafter there is high levels 
of success. 

1548
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,480
And that is Rick Pitino. 
Now, that's not to downgrade the

1549
01:15:37,480 --> 01:15:39,920
other ones, But again, Bobby 
Knight didn't really do it. 

1550
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:41,240
Dean Smith definitely didn't do 
it. 

1551
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:43,040
Coach K definitely didn't do it.
He didn't have to. 

1552
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:46,160
OK, John Wooden didn't do it. 
So when people say it's John 

1553
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:51,440
Wooden, it's Coach K, I'm I'm 
not here to refute their their 

1554
01:15:51,440 --> 01:15:54,120
greatness. 
I'm here to contextualize 

1555
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:57,520
Pitino's and I'm here to get him
in the conversation. 

1556
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:02,000
I'll give you an example, right?
So I'm going to take Mike 

1557
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:07,880
Francesa. 
So think about when Mad Dog left

1558
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:12,000
right when Russo left the fan 
and goes too serious many 

1559
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,440
people. 
I was even curious like man, 

1560
01:16:14,440 --> 01:16:15,680
what's Mike going to be without 
Mad Dog? 

1561
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:20,040
Because as much as MM was the 
authority on on so many things 

1562
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,760
and had so many kind like he he 
you knew he was always connected

1563
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:24,800
to Steinbrenner. 
So you knew what he was. 

1564
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,320
You knew what he said about the 
Yankees was on point. 

1565
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:29,920
Same with the Mara family. 
So you knew what he said about 

1566
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,680
the G men on point. 
You knew we had a relationship 

1567
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:36,120
with the Garden on point. 
So like Mike's background and 

1568
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:42,360
prowess and connection to high 
level decision makers and teams 

1569
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:46,640
just gave it an element of 
realness and, you know, made the

1570
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,760
show a must watch, right? 
But it was dog, in my opinion, 

1571
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:53,000
who always brought like the 
wackiness and the 

1572
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:56,200
unpredictability and just the 
zaniness and the volume. 

1573
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:59,040
And like, I left more dog than I
did Mike. 

1574
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:00,800
I learned more from Mike than I 
did dog. 

1575
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:03,480
But I that's why it was one of 
the best combinations, if not 

1576
01:17:03,480 --> 01:17:07,000
the best ever. 
You had this wacky, loud, crazy,

1577
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:10,280
irreverent figure in in Mad Dog 
who also knew his stuff. 

1578
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,360
I'm not trying to say it didn't,
but he was just a wacky 

1579
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:15,760
combination of everything, an 
entertainer. 

1580
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,480
And then you had Mike, who 
certainly thought he knew it 

1581
01:17:18,480 --> 01:17:21,360
all, didn't but do a lot. 
And now you fuse that together. 

1582
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,680
You got a home run. 
And when Mad Dog left, I'm 

1583
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:25,960
sitting there saying, all right,
but I'm, I'm curious what Mike's

1584
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,640
going to do with without him. 
And Mike was still number one. 

1585
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,080
I know that Kay beat him that 
last book beat him once. 

1586
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:36,000
I get that. 
But Mike continued to be #1 or 

1587
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:40,280
as he would say #1 #1 I bet you 
had a blast on the snow blower 

1588
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:43,280
this weekend as well. 
Number one, number one, number 

1589
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:46,360
one, number one, number one, 
number one without Mad Dog, you 

1590
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:49,640
know what I mean? 
So that showed his adaptability 

1591
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,240
and the game was changing a 
little bit. 

1592
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:56,680
And as Rick has adapted to 
different schools with different

1593
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:58,920
budgets and different 
conferences during different 

1594
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:03,000
times, when the three-point shot
was first introduced, when teams

1595
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,320
kind of cheating under the 
table, you know, a couple of 

1596
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:08,040
bucks here and there to, hey, 
you could transfer without 

1597
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:11,280
penalty in terms of the portal 
to, oh, we can straight up pay 

1598
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:12,640
you now. 
We can do it legally. 

1599
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:14,240
Like he's been there for 
everything. 

1600
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:18,720
And even Mike was transitioning 
from when he got on the air or 

1601
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:21,440
whatever year was, I don't know,
89 whenever he actually started 

1602
01:18:21,480 --> 01:18:24,080
full time at the fan. 
Like there was no social media. 

1603
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,360
And when Mike retired, social 
media was a monster. 

1604
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:30,320
And he still managed to maintain
that number one grip atop the 

1605
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,640
sports radio landscape. 
That's adaptability. 

1606
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:37,040
Now I maybe the better example 
would be I think that that's a 

1607
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:42,040
good example, but maybe a deeper
example would be, let's say I 

1608
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:45,520
know it's not apples to apples, 
but like let's say Mike went to 

1609
01:18:47,480 --> 01:18:51,520
Detroit and was doing afternoon 
drive in Detroit and as a non 

1610
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:53,760
Detroiters, he's he's a New York
guy coming in, he's doing 

1611
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:55,720
afternoon drive. 
Is Mike number one? 

1612
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:57,200
I mean, does he have numbers 
like Valenti? 

1613
01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:00,880
Now Valenti's a New York guy. 
So the maybe the answer would be

1614
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:02,080
yes. 
I don't think you I don't think 

1615
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:03,360
he would be. 
I think it would be different. 

1616
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,360
I think he sounds too New York. 
I think what he cares, even 

1617
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:09,960
though his football knowledge is
great, but I mean, actually he 

1618
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:13,400
he does know a lot about 
national stuff too, but certain 

1619
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:16,320
markets are very territorial. 
So maybe he would do well, but 

1620
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:18,600
he wouldn't quite do as well as 
he did at the fan. 

1621
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:24,880
Or if you went to work in 
Washington, DC, afternoon drive 

1622
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:26,800
there, it might be a little bit 
different. 

1623
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:30,400
So I just think that that's 
really important to the 

1624
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,200
conversation. 
I think there's too much of how 

1625
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,760
many championships would you do 
this, that boom #1 And it's 

1626
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,800
worth restating here. 
If, if now he brought this upon 

1627
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,360
himself and he's owned it. 
You know, Rick's talked about 

1628
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,520
being more humble as he's gotten
older, right? 

1629
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:48,040
And he, he would have the most 
wins in college basketball. 

1630
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:49,880
If he wouldn't have it, maybe we
wouldn't have them right now, 

1631
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:52,680
maybe by the end of this year or
into next year. 

1632
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:55,000
And he'd certainly stick around 
to make sure he got the number. 

1633
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:57,400
Like if he didn't go to Greece, 
they didn't coach the Knicks and

1634
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,360
the Celtics. 
I mean, how many more wins is 

1635
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,440
that you're talking based on on 
his math? 

1636
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:04,560
Let's see. 
I mean, that's at least, I mean,

1637
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,480
I'm being conservative. 20 wins 
a season times 5 or 6. 

1638
01:20:07,480 --> 01:20:10,920
You talking about 120 more wins.
So automatically 9 hundreds of 

1639
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:12,800
1000. 
Now you're knocking on the door.

1640
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:14,280
And it's probably more than 
that. 

1641
01:20:14,440 --> 01:20:17,120
So anyway, I thought it was a 
really, really cool time. 

1642
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:20,680
It was fun too when we got on 
the charter after the game. 

1643
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:23,920
You know, Rick is the energy 
that he has is amazing. 

1644
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:27,160
You know, there's some boosters 
on the plane and the weather was

1645
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:30,880
so bad, obviously in certain 
spots that like Grant Hill, Andy

1646
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:32,440
Katz, they did the game for TRU 
TV. 

1647
01:20:32,440 --> 01:20:35,240
They did it nationally, I think.
I think Grant was telling me he 

1648
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:39,120
was supposed to go to Boston to 
do a game to do a Celtics game 

1649
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:42,400
for for national and he couldn't
get there anyway. 

1650
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:45,200
Saint John said they come on our
charter and you see, Rick, I 

1651
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:48,520
mean 73 years old, just coached 
his ass off tight game, 

1652
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:52,280
energetic on the sideline 
walking up and down the plane, 

1653
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:55,600
you know, talking to Grant came 
over to said hi to me, you know,

1654
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:59,280
and I'm small talk, but I don't 
I'm hey, Congrats, coach. 

1655
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,360
All good. 
Hey, man, good stuff today. 

1656
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:03,720
I don't need to talk. 
I'll I'll I'll I'll bend your 

1657
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:05,360
ear when we shoot the TV show 
this week. 

1658
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:07,760
Go. 
You know, I'm good and but he's 

1659
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:10,720
just walking around just up and 
down the plane and watching him 

1660
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:13,120
operate is it's amazing. 
And then we're getting off the 

1661
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,640
plane. 
They had this big box Adidas 

1662
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:18,560
made shirts. 
Actually, I have it right here. 

1663
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:20,680
They made these shirts. 
So they gave every everybody one

1664
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:25,640
of these as you're getting off 
the airplane to to commemorate 

1665
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:27,800
Rick's 900th win in college 
hoops. 

1666
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:31,080
Just a really good weekend. 
And there'll be more of that 

1667
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,480
stuff at some point. 
I think that you guys will will 

1668
01:21:34,480 --> 01:21:37,840
challenge that. 
I'm not saying definitively he 

1669
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,160
is the greatest coach in the 
history of college basketball. 

1670
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:43,520
I am saying definitively he is 
absolutely one of the greatest 

1671
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,920
college basketball coaches ever.
And I will say this definitively

1672
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:48,640
as well. 
I got one game to win. 

1673
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:51,800
I have one game to win. 
I'm taking him. 

1674
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:55,880
I'm taking him now the other guy
that I would really consider is 

1675
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:58,440
like I wouldn't take. 
I wouldn't want Beheim to win 

1676
01:21:58,440 --> 01:22:00,280
that game because he's lost too 
many big games. 

1677
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:03,560
You know, I would seriously 
consider Jim Calhoun as well. 

1678
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:05,680
And obviously Coach Ki Mean. 
That goes without saying. 

1679
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:09,200
I'm not trying to get nuts here,
but I think Calhoun was a 

1680
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:10,640
master. 
I really do. 

1681
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,200
Calhoun was great. 
You know, the other thing too is

1682
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:18,000
like, and this is what's amazing
about what Rick's doing, one of 

1683
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:21,040
the things that Rick does best, 
and you talk to people that have

1684
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,360
Donovan Mitchell says this all 
the time, like when when he was 

1685
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:26,560
at Louisville, Rick really 
worked on his his release like, 

1686
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:28,920
and just I'm talking about 
something as subtle, like maybe 

1687
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,480
you're here, suddenly you're 
here, it's an inch out and he 

1688
01:22:31,480 --> 01:22:33,680
just a more accurate shooter, 
all the mechanics kind of 

1689
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:36,600
streamlining that stuff. 
What Rick really sells the 

1690
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:40,120
program, every program he's ever
been at is player development. 

1691
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:43,040
So you come to me. 
And this is before he could pay 

1692
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:44,560
kids millions. 
I'm going to make you millions 

1693
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:45,800
because I'm going to make you 
better. 

1694
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:50,040
And to this day, to this day, 
you know, during the week 

1695
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:53,280
they'll do before their team 
practice, they will do 

1696
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:56,400
individual sessions in the 
morning for like an hour or two 

1697
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,600
with Rick Pitino. 
Their head coaches don't show up

1698
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,160
for that. 
And if you think about what what

1699
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:05,960
I believe outside of like IQ and
all that stuff and presents and 

1700
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:08,600
you know, cachet and all that 
stuff, and he's going to, you 

1701
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:10,840
know, make a fan base excited 
because he's just got that 

1702
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:12,200
character and that that 
presents. 

1703
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,960
I think Rick's greatest, 
greatest characteristic as a 

1704
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:18,480
coach is his player development 
aspect. 

1705
01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:23,160
And now with the rosters 
changing every year, one of his 

1706
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,440
greatest strength, what I 
perceive to be his best strength

1707
01:23:25,440 --> 01:23:27,600
is minimize. 
Because back in the day, you get

1708
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:31,800
a kid as a raw freshman, tack 10
lbs on them, bust his ass every 

1709
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:33,840
day in personal, you know, 
development sessions. 

1710
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,280
And then, you know, by a 
sophomore, he's playing a little

1711
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,480
bit more and then by junior 
bang, first round pick, if he's 

1712
01:23:39,480 --> 01:23:42,920
got that kind of upside right. 
And if not senior year, he's all

1713
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:46,720
conference averages, 1314 points
a game, big contributor to a 

1714
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:48,120
team that gets to the Final 
Four. 

1715
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:51,280
But when the rosters always 
changing, yeah, you're getting 

1716
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:55,080
players better during the year. 
But then it's a whole new 

1717
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:58,200
roster, which is why I think a 
lot of Zubi's success is 

1718
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:00,400
obviously attributable to to 
Rick. 

1719
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:03,320
And, and that's the anyway, it's
just fascinating to look at it 

1720
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:06,400
and based on the fact that, you 
know, it's a symbolic 

1721
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:10,360
achievement #900 Congrats to 
Rick, Congrats to Saint John. 

1722
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:13,360
Really good. 
And it's, it's fun. 

1723
01:24:13,480 --> 01:24:15,320
And, and I want to bring that up
a little bit there. 

1724
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:16,680
What do we got here? 
What's that? 

1725
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:21,080
What is this? 
What's this, what does this say 

1726
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:23,880
at Rod Power 78? 
I think everybody on the first 

1727
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:27,360
take laughed at the dog, not 
with him, especially Stephen A 

1728
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:30,480
wait, so they're laughing at 
dog, not with him. 

1729
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:32,680
I disagree. 
I don't agree with that. 

1730
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:38,240
Now I can't I can't prove that. 
I don't think they're I mean, 

1731
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:42,360
that's it's an interesting read.
I think that if you're on set, 

1732
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:45,840
well, I think it depends who 
you're on set with. 

1733
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,640
Like there's certain people on 
some of those shows that take 

1734
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,600
themselves a little bit too 
seriously when it comes to 

1735
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:52,640
football knowledge. 
Like, all right, come on. 

1736
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:54,400
We're not splitting the atom 
here, man. 

1737
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:57,960
But I think if you are have a 
little bit of an entertainment 

1738
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:01,680
value in you, you know, and 
you're not just XS and OS and 

1739
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:03,800
just about, you know, societal 
issues and you could have a 

1740
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:07,400
little fun once in a while. 
I, I think that I think you love

1741
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:08,840
Mad Dog. 
I think you're like, look at 

1742
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:11,400
this absolute nut job, banana 
psychopath. 

1743
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:13,000
No, I think they're laughing 
with them. 

1744
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:15,200
I mean, I can't prove that. 
I don't think that they're 

1745
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:18,640
laughing at them. 
That's just my that that's just 

1746
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:22,880
that's my opinion at Golf News. 
At Golf News. 

1747
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:24,920
Or I'm gonna assume that that's 
Rhode Island there. 

1748
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:26,480
Yeah, up there. 
Piece. 

1749
01:25:26,480 --> 01:25:27,760
OK. 
I still root for Patino. 

1750
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:29,960
Not over PC. 
I thought he was gonna go back 

1751
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,680
to Providence College at one 
point, somewhat recently, too. 

1752
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,200
Before the Iona job. 
Was that before Iona or before 

1753
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:37,560
saying no, It was before the 
Iona job. 

1754
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:39,520
There was a thought they were 
going to bring him back there. 

1755
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,480
I still, I still root for Rick. 
Not over PC, But other than 

1756
01:25:42,480 --> 01:25:45,480
that, he always talks glowingly 
about his time in Providence. 

1757
01:25:45,480 --> 01:25:46,400
He does. 
So good for him. 

1758
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:48,120
He is the GOAT. 
Yeah, I can respect that. 

1759
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,200
I mean, Kim English has his 
hands full up there. 

1760
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:52,280
My God, they're a disaster. 
Providence is a mess. 

1761
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:55,040
Cooley was down, what, 2021 
points he went in there. 

1762
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:57,120
He won that game. 
Providence is a mess, but 

1763
01:25:57,120 --> 01:26:00,040
Providence is a good job for 
college basketball, you know, 

1764
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:02,400
and Father Shanley, who's now 
the president at Saint John's, 

1765
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:05,600
like that's the thing too. 
Father Harrington, who was one 

1766
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:09,680
of the former presidents at 
Saint John's, didn't care about 

1767
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:11,880
basketball. 
And if you're a Catholic school 

1768
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:15,000
with no football budget, I know 
Villanova's got a football team,

1769
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:18,560
but I mean, a, a, a big visible 
high money presence, high dollar

1770
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:20,480
presence, you better have 
alignment. 

1771
01:26:20,480 --> 01:26:25,040
Like to me, in terms of just 
fiscal, whatever, you better 

1772
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:27,680
have a president who knows the 
importance of of college 

1773
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:30,240
basketball. 
You better have an AD who aligns

1774
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:33,200
himself with that philosophy. 
And you better have a head coach

1775
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:37,000
who the AD knows to what I got 
to get out of the way a little 

1776
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,680
bit here, like a Patino, like 
some of these big names where 

1777
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,760
the coach is bigger than the AD 
in certain respects and the 

1778
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:45,680
president understands that you 
make money by spending money. 

1779
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,600
So it's not, it's not a 
coincidence that Saint John's 

1780
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:52,360
profile changed when they 
brought in a president who 

1781
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:58,080
values and understands the value
of basketball versus others 

1782
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:00,040
Prior to that, that that simply 
did not. 

1783
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:01,520
So that's been a big problem at 
St. 

1784
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,640
John's for a long time. 
Thankfully, that's that's gone. 

1785
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:06,120
Let me see if anything jumps out
here. 

1786
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:10,720
Let's see here. 
Pitino. 

1787
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:11,480
Yeah. 
There you go. 

1788
01:27:11,480 --> 01:27:13,640
There. 
Let's see them with bike it out.

1789
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:16,400
What's OK? 
What's this here at Jack 

1790
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:18,400
Benstead. under score. 
Benstead. 

1791
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,520
What up, Jack? 
Quick story to tell you as you 

1792
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:22,160
were talking about college ball.
My. 

1793
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:24,000
Oh, I I read this one. 
I'm sorry. 

1794
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:26,680
I'm sorry that that popped up 
before. 

1795
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:28,640
J Rod, by the way, is very quiet
today. 

1796
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:30,920
Like, you know, things aren't 
popping up as fast. 

1797
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,240
What is he shoveling? 
Did you hit the shovel yet this 

1798
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:33,880
weekend? 
What? 

1799
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:37,920
What are you doing there, J Rod,
hold on. 

1800
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:39,400
I can't hear you. 
Hello, hello. 

1801
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:40,320
Gotcha. 
What up, man? 

1802
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:42,920
Haven't hit the shovel yet this 
weekend. 

1803
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:45,880
I mean, I guess I don't even 
have to shovel anymore that now 

1804
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:47,600
that I'm in like an apartment 
building. 

1805
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:50,600
Yep. 
Just yesterday, feet deep in the

1806
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:52,920
snow, couldn't really leave the 
place. 

1807
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:55,320
It was snowing inside of our 
hallway. 

1808
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:57,480
What? 
Where the hell do you live? 

1809
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:02,000
Just like a Bushwick apartment 
building, but there is like some

1810
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:05,160
crack in like a, a ceiling 
glass. 

1811
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:07,600
So there's just like piles of 
snow in the are you? 

1812
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:09,280
Serious it. 
Was funny, yeah. 

1813
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:11,600
Wow. 
Well, I'll tell you, I took the 

1814
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:14,560
easy way out, although I, I 
haven't, I haven't seen them 

1815
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:15,520
yet. 
This is actually starting to 

1816
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,800
worry me a little bit. 
So my wife said she knows how 

1817
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:19,680
much I love to shovel. 
And I've talked about shoveling.

1818
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:22,760
I enjoy it. 
Like there's an art to which you

1819
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:24,920
got to take shifts. 
You got to have the salt, you 

1820
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:27,520
got to have the spreader, you 
got to know, you know, you just 

1821
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:30,280
got to understand what you're in
for and you got to embrace it. 

1822
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:32,440
And when I say embrace it, that 
means pour yourself a little 

1823
01:28:32,440 --> 01:28:35,360
drink, crank out the music and 
do it the right way, right? 

1824
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:37,880
So, but this is different. 
I mean, this is this is 

1825
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:40,360
different. 
This is I so, but I was going to

1826
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:42,600
do it and I was prepared to 
really deal with it. 

1827
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:44,800
And I'm like, this is going to 
be such a bitch when I get home 

1828
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:47,400
eventually Sunday, Monday can be
a massive problem. 

1829
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:49,480
So she text me while I'm in Ohio
with St. 

1830
01:28:49,480 --> 01:28:53,440
John's and I guess somebody on 
our street hired somebody to 

1831
01:28:53,440 --> 01:28:58,080
come and actually plow. 
And yeah, like certain homes are

1832
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,840
doing this and it's like $1.50. 
Oh, it isn't cheap. 

1833
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:03,880
I'm like, I'll pay 350, plow it.
I got so. 

1834
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:06,600
But he's not here yet. 
So not a problem is now it's a 

1835
01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:10,080
little if this guy doesn't come,
I got a big problem because now 

1836
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:12,000
it's getting a little sleety, 
which means it's getting a 

1837
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,440
little heavier. 
And then what happens? 

1838
01:29:14,440 --> 01:29:17,360
The real issue as the plow at. 
Well, there's the individual 

1839
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:20,880
plow that I'm hoping will come 
and I'm going to pay him and do 

1840
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:22,960
it. 
And then there's the plow that I

1841
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:26,720
pay for with taxes that come 
through the streets that push 

1842
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:30,320
all the the slop into my 
driveway as it clears out the 

1843
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:32,200
street. 
And now that's heavy and now 

1844
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:35,680
that's sleety and that's icy. 
So if this dude doesn't come, 

1845
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:37,800
I'm going to have a miserable 
day and I'm going to be pissed. 

1846
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:41,240
Going to do you have one of the 
electric ones going or just the 

1847
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:42,680
shovel? 
Shovel. 

1848
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:46,000
So yeah, it's going to be a, 
it's going to be a tough day 

1849
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:49,920
shovel. 
So you're hoping maybe this guy 

1850
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:53,960
comes after the town plow comes 
so that he can clear out the 

1851
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:55,840
snow that the town plow then 
left? 

1852
01:29:55,880 --> 01:30:00,560
I think, yeah, well, I think the
plow town is done or the the 

1853
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:02,440
town plowing. 
The plow town. 

1854
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:05,280
What I think that that's a new 
that's a new sitcom plow town. 

1855
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:08,840
I think the town, the town's 
done because it's done snowing. 

1856
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:10,200
So I think they've done all 
their plowing. 

1857
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:13,000
So anytime he wants to get his 
behind over here and do do his 

1858
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,600
job, I mean, he's welcome. 
He's welcome to come. 

1859
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:16,920
I can't drive anywhere. 
I can't. 

1860
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,160
I want to go to the store. 
Like, I can't sit in here. 

1861
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:22,720
I can't, I can't, I can't stay 
here for 40 hours straight. 

1862
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:25,360
I mean I got even if I go get 
gas, go get the Gatorade. 

1863
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:26,960
Got to leave. 
Somewhere, dude, just got to 

1864
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:29,760
just got, you know, just got to 
stretch the bones a little bit. 

1865
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:33,760
Kids are home from school, you 
know, probably tomorrow. 

1866
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:37,080
No school, man, I would think 
so. 

1867
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:39,000
They're so soft. 
They're wait till you wait. 

1868
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:40,800
Now it's a little different in 
the city. 

1869
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:43,200
Like they do virtual. 
Just give the kids the day off. 

1870
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:46,520
Like I don't understand this and
I'm not getting on educators at 

1871
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:48,680
all, but I don't understand some
of the I love them. 

1872
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:51,080
I love what they represent and 
without it we got problems 

1873
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:54,360
right? 
But I just think that if it 

1874
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:57,560
snows like this, don't make kids
sit in front of a laptop. 

1875
01:30:57,560 --> 01:30:58,640
Let them go out there and have 
fun. 

1876
01:30:58,640 --> 01:30:59,760
What are we doing with? 
Time. 

1877
01:30:59,920 --> 01:31:03,720
I mean, learning today I don't 
even like, at least when I was a

1878
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:06,400
kid, it was always snow day, 
snow day, snow day. 

1879
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:10,520
So I never even really got to 
experience like the later high 

1880
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:13,480
school, middle school, remote 
learning kind of snow day sort 

1881
01:31:13,480 --> 01:31:14,720
of deal. 
But though that was the best 

1882
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:17,640
kind of day ever. 
You wake up, hot chocolate, put 

1883
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:20,680
on your snow pants, hit the 
hill, hit the town hill because 

1884
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:22,160
it's sledding. 
What's better than that? 

1885
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,360
Yeah, we didn't do a lot of 
sledding because there was, we 

1886
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:26,760
were all flat. 
So you're in Bush. 

1887
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:30,720
So I was in Flatbush. 
You know, we had a park, but you

1888
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:32,440
know, we'd go there and play 
basketball and baseball, not 

1889
01:31:32,440 --> 01:31:34,840
really for snow. 
We would just play football in 

1890
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:38,120
the street and it will be 
violent, I mean concrete. 

1891
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:40,680
And we were. 
And we would play hockey in the 

1892
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:45,680
street without snow. 
And now imagine this the, he got

1893
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:49,800
a, you know, a fairly narrow St.
and he got these cars that are, 

1894
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:51,360
are lining, you know, the 
street, right. 

1895
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:55,080
So when we play hockey and I was
not a good hockey player, I, I 

1896
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:56,320
was terrible. 
I was like the one sport. 

1897
01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:58,960
I was not, I'm gonna say the one
sport I wasn't good at, but it 

1898
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:00,560
was the sport I was the worst at
for sure. 

1899
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:03,960
Not a great skater, not great 
aptitude, didn't watch a lot of 

1900
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:05,640
it. 
So it wasn't really that good 

1901
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,120
anyway. 
We would play in the street and 

1902
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:11,760
the cars with the boards. 
So we would actually check each 

1903
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:15,320
other into the cars. 
Oh, my God, dude, you grew up in

1904
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:16,960
a different way. 
Different. 

1905
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:20,440
Yeah. 
Grew up in a different era, man.

1906
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:22,400
So I like today's show. 
What you think? 

1907
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:24,280
Yeah, let's get a little. 
I'm going to start having you 

1908
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:26,680
and I got stat boy. 
I'm not going to have you, like,

1909
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:28,600
come out with mistakes. 
I'm going to need a little bit 

1910
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:31,840
of a grade after each show. 
And I want you to be honest. 

1911
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:35,360
A through F1 to 10, whatever 
the, your scale is there, I want

1912
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:39,480
you to grade the show based on 
contact content, based on, you 

1913
01:32:39,480 --> 01:32:41,080
know, maybe diversity of 
content. 

1914
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:44,480
So before we bounce, before we 
call it a wrap here on a snowy 

1915
01:32:44,480 --> 01:32:48,160
Monday on BT Unleashed, what is 
J Rod's grade for today's 

1916
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:49,920
session? 
I'm going to hit today. 

1917
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:57,080
I'm going to go like a 8990 like
AB plus A minus. 

1918
01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:59,920
I think that's pretty good. 
Well, yeah, for me it was 

1919
01:32:59,920 --> 01:33:02,320
pretty. 
Good a minus kind of deal. 

1920
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:06,240
I'm going to say today's episode
I think great diversity. 

1921
01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:09,200
I thought I really liked how you
kind of had the two segments 

1922
01:33:09,440 --> 01:33:13,400
jets in the beginning boom, big 
Patino push later like it built 

1923
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:16,640
upon kind of the weekend of 
content you were pushing out in 

1924
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:18,760
terms of the Saint John stuff. 
That's right. 

1925
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:22,360
So yeah, I mean, and I thought 
like also, you know, just in 

1926
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:25,200
terms of engagement, I thought 
people were were really getting 

1927
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:28,560
engaged with like especially the
Patino talk and especially the 

1928
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:31,520
the basketball coaching. 
So I think, I think it's great. 

1929
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:34,440
8989's A Little Light. 8990 
Yeah, I. 

1930
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:37,320
Mean if you're gonna say 8990, 
just say 90 and because you 

1931
01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:41,720
would need 40. 92919091. 
Think about the difference. 

1932
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:42,960
I mean, it's literally one 
point. 

1933
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:44,440
Hey, would you get on the test? 
I got an 89. 

1934
01:33:44,440 --> 01:33:46,040
Would you get I got a 90. 
Think. 

1935
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:47,600
I think about how it's. 
Big difference it. 

1936
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:50,560
Sounds think about how you 
present that to your parents. 

1937
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:52,320
Hey B, what'd you get on that 
math test? 

1938
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:55,240
I got a 89. 
Oh, actually, 89 would have been

1939
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:56,520
great math. 
So let me think something I was 

1940
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:57,720
good at. 
Hey, would you get on that 

1941
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:00,320
spelling test 89? 
What? 

1942
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:02,840
You know that spelling test 90? 
I mean, I usually got hundreds 

1943
01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:05,320
in spelling, but you understand 
the difference Like, yeah, yeah,

1944
01:34:05,440 --> 01:34:08,920
just the way you present the 
8989. 

1945
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:11,360
So threw me for a little loop 
there, but it's all good. 

1946
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:16,000
I gave you the, I bestow you 
upon you, that official power of

1947
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,560
grading. 
So if it's an 8990, we'll try to

1948
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:20,080
make a little bit better 
tomorrow. 

1949
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:22,840
Tomorrow's 100. 
We always try for 100. 

1950
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:25,760
We always look for that. 
Now tomorrow, I don't know. 

1951
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:27,360
I don't really know what we'll 
do tomorrow. 

1952
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:29,440
I got to figure out how to see 
how this day goes. 

1953
01:34:30,440 --> 01:34:32,400
Obviously, they're not going to 
start banging out Super Bowl 

1954
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:35,320
content tomorrow because Super 
Bowl is for two weeks. 

1955
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:38,920
But I'm sure they'll be a little
more residue on The Jets, Jets 

1956
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:41,000
high rings, maybe a little more.
I'm going to do a little more at

1957
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:42,920
the hot stove tomorrow. 
That's something I do need to do

1958
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:45,520
with the Yankees and the Mets. 
Is that a wrap? 

1959
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:48,000
What's about grade grading them 
out, giving them their official 

1960
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:50,080
grades for the baseball hot 
stove? 

1961
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:52,320
So J Rod's going to get out the 
shorts. 

1962
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:54,040
He's going to have four of those
today. 

1963
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:56,520
He's going to pump it all out. 
He's doing a great job with 

1964
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:57,680
that. 
Build out the graphics. 

1965
01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:01,120
They look really sharp. 
They look really good Jay. 

1966
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:03,440
I'll catch you tomorrow brother.
You can ZAP yourself out now. 

1967
01:35:03,440 --> 01:35:05,360
Really good work. 
Look at him right on .2. 

1968
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:06,960
No, like as you can hit the 
button. 

1969
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:08,800
It's the man I know he's going 
to hit the button. 

1970
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:10,200
Jay Rods ready to work. 
Jay. 

1971
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:12,800
Rods ready to roll. 
Jay Rod sent me a text by the 

1972
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:14,720
way, I'm not going to read it 
because that's between me and 

1973
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:16,120
Jay. 
He sent me a text. 

1974
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:20,480
I was on the plane on the tarmac
hoping that I would get off to 

1975
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:24,840
get off the ground there. 
And Jared sends me this 

1976
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:30,120
incredibly well thought out plan
and structure vision for the 

1977
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:31,800
show. 
And I'm like, man, that's just 

1978
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:34,200
further validation. 
I hired the right guy. 

1979
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:35,400
I'm not going to get I'm not 
going to read it. 

1980
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:38,440
But even if I did the word just 
very intelligently written and 

1981
01:35:38,440 --> 01:35:41,200
the points of focus we're so on 
point. 

1982
01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:44,480
Exactly what I'm thinking. 
So we got that synergy. 

1983
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:46,880
He's going to get that rap song 
going as well. 

1984
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:49,320
All right, J Rod is going to 
start pumping that out for you. 

1985
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:52,360
Have a great Monday. 
If you're going out to shovel, 

1986
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:54,040
get it done. 
You know, good luck to you. 

1987
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:56,640
Of course, for a little 
something, get the music going, 

1988
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:59,160
take your time, watch your back,
use your legs when you do it, 

1989
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:01,560
watch your back. 
Don't just bend over, use your 

1990
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:04,960
knees. 
Get into it and I will see you 

1991
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:07,200
tomorrow. 
Have a great, great Monday. 

1992
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:08,920
Catch you tomorrow at 10 right 
here, BT Unleashed. 

1993
01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:10,800
I'll see ya. 
This is unleashed, are you 

1994
01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:19,360
listening? 
Can you hear Can you hear me?

