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You listening? 
What's going on, everybody? 

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We've got a little, a little 
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that. 
What was that there, J Rod? 

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That's what happened. 
What was that? 

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I, I think I, I didn't hear 
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heard like a pop or something. 
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double track underneath it. 
We we, we got a different mix 

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here to start the show. 
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It is all good. 
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welcome to BT Unleashed. 
Hopefully everybody's doing 

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Thank God they won last night. 
I don't want to get grumpy Boone

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So I've got to get right into 
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dancing with booty. 
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the topics that that I deem 
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And I'm sure by extension, you 
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So we'll get into that little 
housekeeping note quickly. 

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Heads up for tomorrow. 
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blast as soon as the schedule 
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Episode #8 myself and Jake 
Aspen, Rich Cimini, The Jets 

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Collective in the house, the 
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the games and we'll see where 
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You know, going to be on the 
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playing Yeti primetime stuff. 
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I'm actually excited about The 
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I think you guys know that we 
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tonight while the Knicks get to 
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So to me, like if I'm listening 
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want to hear there's probably 
three things now. 

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There's probably 10 things that 
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I get it. 
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the lead off hitter thing. 
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changes. 
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Grisham. 
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bring it up. 
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a big bomb last night. 
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Yankees do get the win. 
Warren really battled. 

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So I was good to see to get back
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But to me, like, say, if I'm 
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know, I I don't do what I do for
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And I'm just like you. 
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Aaron Boone's on with BT Here's 
what I got to hear. 

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To me, the three most pressing 
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And there's a lot of good in the
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four-game losing streak where 
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again. 
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and yesterday's show. 
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Yankees pitching staff is going 
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this version of the Yankees. 
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necessarily be right, but I'm 
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Yankees that I have been outside
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like what do you do with that 
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are playing well, not that they 
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Tommy John, but and they've got 
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potential desire to maybe get 
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Who's going to the pen? 
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Aaron Boone, the Volpe stuff for
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stuff. 
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most pertinent Yankee issues. 
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There's obviously a lot of good.
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Caballeros played so far, the 
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plus 72 run differential, a lot 
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obviously react to that. 
We'll get your chats up. 

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We'll have a fun conversation 
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We'll get some calls as well. 
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into David Stearns Yesterday, 
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but I know that not many of you 
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think the Mets made a great hire
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in, which pretty much everybody 
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all thought, all right, you 
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wonder who did, you know, some 
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of A payroll. 
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Steve Cohen's checkbook? 
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And even with the win last night
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get his first knock, a triple 
that was he can fly, man. 

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It's good to see him up there. 
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He battled as well. 
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were about to take off, but 
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now, if I agree with what Stern 
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the requisite character and the 
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that he believes are going to 
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We'll have that conversation 
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To me, David Stearns comes 
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Like, dude, who do you think 
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York media, even though the New 
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back, which I in the matter in 
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they they would have. 
Like, dude, you're not setting 

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the rules right now. 
Dude, you're 16 and 25. 

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You got a bloated payroll. 
Your team stinks. 

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All right, every other week it's
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security for the manager and he 
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not talking about this every 
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No, no, you might have to 
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say if they lose two or three to
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next two in this series, like 
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I understand what Stearns is 
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to re establish a little 
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I get that and I respect that. 
I really do. 

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But understand where you're at 
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You know, once you know if and 
when you know Mendoza is is ever

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relieved of his job, there is 
nobody that you can pull in 

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front of you to shield yourself 
from the shrapnel that is 

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already coming your way in, in 
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so. 
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ridiculous. 
Like, listen, when you're a 

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general manager and it's and 
Cashman, it's funny, Cashman, 

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not to get into the roster 
construction, but Cashman over 

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the years has been a little 
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And you know, that's it's rubbed
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wrong way. 
But you know, Brian Cashman's 

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got a boatload of championships.
He's been here for 3540 years. 

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Even when he started, you know, 
under Bob Watson, he's got some 

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equity here. 
Stearns hasn't done a damn thing

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except RIP the RIP apart a team 
and that's seemingly going 

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backwards. 
So again, we will have the 

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conversation. 
Do I think that the Mets could 

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turn this around? 
You know, but I I that jumped 

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off the page to me like he's 
just he's got that smirk and 

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he's like this smarmy. 
I don't know, like he's talking 

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down to people. 
Dude, relax. 

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Like you're the last dude. 
And if you think about all the 

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teams right now, right, I mean, 
listen, if Joe Shane knows 

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what's good from Joe Shane's not
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I mean, Joe Shane's lucky he's 
still here. 

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But there's good energy with the
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There's good energy with The 
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draft and you know, some 
positivity there. 

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I mean, the Knicks are running 
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The Yankees, despite the 
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been terrific this year for the 
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And you know, I mean, David 
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you know, looking at the media, 
basically trying to re establish

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the rules. 
Don't work that way, buddy. 

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I, I really thought that he 
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point where if I am Steve Cohen 
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in PR would do this, you know, 
maybe, maybe if Jay was still 

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there, Horwitz, he would, he 
would do this. 

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But I almost think that he's got
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redirect and re channel some of 
the, the energy. 

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What he admits. 
Like you, you got to come in the

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side door, buddy. 
Things ain't going well for you,

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Dave, and you're up there 
telling the media. 

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Don't ask me about it. 
We'll ask you what we want to 

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ask you. 
Who the hell do you think that 

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you are? 
Don't ask me. 

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Like that's where you know. 
And listen, I I know a lot of 

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these like Mike Vaccaro, Steve 
Serbi, I mean, you know, Zach on

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the St. 
John's beat, you know, Rodger 

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Rubin on the St. 
John's beat from new. 

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Like I know a lot of the report.
I don't know some of the younger

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guys, some of the newer guys, 
but I know a lot of the old 

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guard and they're as good as it 
gets. 

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But, and I don't even know who 
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I'm not even directly casting 
aspersions at an individual, but

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I was surprised that the big, 
bad New York media didn't say 

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anything to him. 
I'm like, you know, I'm not 

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going to talk about it. 
No, I'm be listen there. 

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Come on, Stearns, if you don't 
start winning, you're going to 

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talk about it. 
All right, Well, we're going to 

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talk about right now is the New 
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now. 
I know he's getting set up 

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there. 
Like I could see him in the 

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backdrop there, so I'll let him.
I don't know if he is he in 

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uniform yet? 
Has he got the batting practice 

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gear on? 
He's got the lid on. 

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What's he rocking? 
Let me get my guy. 

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Aaron Boone, Of course, the 
manager for the New York Yankees

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and booty is looking to be 
sitting the camera. 

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He's got his Yankee. 
Look at. 

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Come on, You look like Jazz with
that hat. 

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Would you fix your hat, dude? 
What are you trying to look like

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Jazz? 
Jazz in their booty? 

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Hey, what happened? 
I don't know. 

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Hold up. 
We got him there. 

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Can you hear us? 
Yes, I got you. 

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What's up there, Skip? 
How you doing, man? 

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We're good. 
All right? 

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Did you hear what I said about 
the hat? 

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You look like jazz. 
Chisholm. 

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What are we doing? 
You're old school. 

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Pull that thing down, Booney. 
I'm going up this morning. 

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I got it till I get dressed. 
I understand man. 

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Hey, listen, first of all, I 
really appreciate you doing 

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this. 
I know we were supposed to have 

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you on at 10:30, would have had 
a little bit more time but they 

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move the game up. 
Some bad weather down in 

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Baltimore. 
So thanks for hopping on me. 

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How you doing bud? 
You good? 

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Yeah, I'm doing well. 
How you doing? 

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I'm doing great, man. 
It's, it's been a while. 

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We, we've obviously communicated
a lot off the air, but the last 

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time I saw you was at the BT and
Sal live show, which was great. 

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For the record, I, you know, we 
did handle the, I beat you in 

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the baseball card game. 
So I beat you again, just for 

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the record there. 
You beat Sal though. 

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You did beat Sal. 
The dropping of Sal. 

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Yes, you, you, you did wipe your
wipes out a little bit. 

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So, OK, because we don't have an
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minutes. 
I want to jump into some things 

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here. 
The to me, and this is actually 

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a good thing, Aaron, but I'm 
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play out Weathers. 
I mean, the way he's looked, he 

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obviously looks like somebody 
who deserves to be a starter. 

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Same with same with Will Warren.
Now, this is ultimately a good 

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thing, but ultimately you're 
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tough conversation with one of 
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be somebody else, which I doubt.
Are you already in your mind 

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playing this out? 
Like, do you have a sense of 

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those two guys who might right 
now be more quick to go to the 

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bullpen? 
That's a tough call, man. 

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I still it's, it's still a 
couple weeks away at least. 

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And then and, and I just feel 
like, you know, that's still in 

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the baseball world a lifetime 
away, like it's, you know, that 

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that decision may be made for 
you before then. 

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So I try not to get too far 
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because ultimately we'll sit 
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decision and make it. 
So the good thing like you said 

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is you know, in in the case of 
the guys you mentioned like 

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they're throwing great. 
They're they, they are really 

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good starting pitchers obviously
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doing. 
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difficult decision when the time
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a ways away, we'll make it. 
You know, I've talked about this

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a lot, obviously anticipating 
the return of Gerrard Cole. 

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Now, you know, we get so wrapped
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growing up, when we were 
younger, certainly the symbolism

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of of the opening day pitcher. 
You know, Carlton's going, 

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Sievers going, Gooden's going, 
Guidry's going, you know, 

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Saberhagen, guys like that. 
It's a little different. 

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I remember a couple of years 
ago. 

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Good list. 
You just rattled. 

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Listen man, you know there's a 
reason why I handle you in the 

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baseball card cave, buddy. 
I know my names man, and that is

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a good list there and the the 
symbolism of taking the ball on 

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opening day. 
There's there's great value, 

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great respect and we all know 
what it meant growing up. 

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It's a little different now. 
Nestor started a couple of years

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ago in Houston based on the 
workload and when guys were 

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ready. 
So I like we look at a rotation.

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We labeled this guy's the ace. 
This guy's the two. 

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You can always manipulate things
with off days. 

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I get that. 
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whenever Garrett comes back, you
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to put them Freed 1, Cold 2, 
Schlit 3, rolled on four and 

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then either Warren or Weather is
five. 

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Do you have any aversion if it 
is weathers? 

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Because I thought about this 
having 60% of the rotation being

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lefties, is that a factor? 
No. 

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Not at all, Even with all the 
righties. 

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All the right you hit, Really. 
Yeah. 

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OK. 
Is it because they have like 

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reverse splits or it just 
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No, I mean like, look, if if 
someone has to go to the bullpen

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that they become an interesting 
option on on days to, you know, 

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follow somebody and even 
piggyback and even go close the 

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game for for on that day. 
You know, like, like I think of 

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the Michael King role when 
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like he was an absolute killer 
in some 3 inning stints. 

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So, yeah, yeah. 
Where where it would be a day, 

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we'd give our closer the day off
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the finish line for us. 
So that'll work again, that'll 

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work itself out. 
What makes the most sense? 

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Lefty, right? 
He doesn't probably factor in 

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too much. 
So whomever it is and and again 

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is going to play out over time 
and and think about some of the 

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situations like if we were 
having this conversation as you 

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and I did, you know, on the 
phone during the winter, like, 

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hey, is, is, is Dominguez going 
to make the team or we're going 

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to see Spencer Jones? 
Well, you don't know that even 

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though he gets hurt a lot, with 
all due respect to big G, but 

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Stanton gets hurt. 
That opens up a door for a for 

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Spencer Jones a little bit or or
Dominguez and and then Spencer 

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and then, you know, obviously 
with the injury opens up the 

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door for Caballero. 
So you're right. 

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The one thing about baseball is 
that if you plan too far out in 

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advance, it's usually kind of a 
waste of. 

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Time and there's nothing to plan
for right now. 

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True. 
Like, not like we're getting 

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somebody ready. 
Like it's just going to happen 

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if it does. 
Understood. 

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See, I look at Weathers and I 
put this out there and I see now

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that he's throwing more strikes 
and he's healthy. 

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Two things that plagued him a 
little bit Miami. 

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And I think organizationally, 
you know, you listen, you know, 

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I've had some issues with 
Cashman along the year but 

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years, but I think he does a 
great job finding pictures and 

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revitalizing some of these 
reclamation projects and weather

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seems to be the latest example. 
I don't know, Aaron. 

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I look at somebody and I know 
you love Bednar and I like him, 

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but I look at somebody like 
Weathers and and I see a guy who

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come out of the bullpen in the 
9th inning throwing 99. 

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If you trusted he's throwing 
strikes. 

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Does he have that high leverage?
If he's the guy, and I'm not 

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going to, I'm not saying that he
is, is he a high, a high 

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leverage late inning come in a 
man on upper run something like 

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2 on two out. 
Like you see him making that 

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transition maybe easier than 
Warren if it comes to that. 

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Not necessarily. 
And I don't look at them through

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a traditional lens. 
If you're talking about a 

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starter going back there, I look
at guys that can on a given day,

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you know, every 3rd, every 4th 
day go out and dominate the back

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end of a game for three or four 
innings after, you know. 

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So I look at it's not so much 
like OK, we're just implanting 

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him in A1 inning situation. 
I think it's a different kind of

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role and I would liken it to 
Michael King, but and not even 

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saying we're going to do that 
with those guys, but that that's

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how I look at it more. 
What did you see from Rodriguez?

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Obviously you know, some nerves 
and didn't really command the 

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zone early on. 
He's got pretty filthy stuff. 

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I just didn't think he could 
really use his slider as much as

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he wanted to because he couldn't
jump ahead. 

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What did you see in the dugout 
on the mound? 

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Like under the hood kind of 
stuff as as a, as a young player

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getting the call and and just 
kind of trying to fit in. 

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Yeah, just he just, he didn't 
throw strikes like he does and 

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and will, but I thought he did a
good job of not imploding 

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either. 
Yep. 

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Like like lesser guys that go 
sideways when you're not, you 

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know, you're you're up there for
the first time and you're kind 

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of find your way and you're not 
commanding it like you like you 

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normally do. 
And he didn't, he didn't flinch.

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So I liked his poise. 
I love the stuff. 

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I like his makeup and what I 
think he is going to be long 

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term. 
Like I think he's I think he's a

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starter in the league for a long
time. 

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So, you know, there were some 
struggles in there in those two 

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outings, but there were some 
some promising things that he 

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showed in in kind of the in the 
fire, if you will, early in some

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games. 
Yeah, Also, I mean, listen, this

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is just the way it worked out. 
I mean, kind of a tough look, 

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the poor kid going out there 
against the same team twice. 

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I mean, so you don't think that 
matters much? 

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Maybe a little bit, but I think 
if he throws well, you know, 

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he's, you know, the biggest 
issue for him was just not 

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throwing enough strikes and not 
commanding it like like he 

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normally does. 
But I think, I think making 

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those two starts, I think 
there's a was really valuable 

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because because he could become 
a very important piece as early 

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as this year for us. 
So to get up and get some early 

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experience and stack a couple 
starts, I think there's a lot of

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value in that. 
I remember, I remember where I 

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was sitting, I was getting ready
to go into one of my one of my 

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kids rec basketball games during
the winter. 

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I think it was right before he 
went down to Tampa and we were 

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catching up a little bit and I 
said, hey, I said Ben Rice going

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to have like like A9950 OPS. 
You're like, whoa, whoa. 

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I love that you remember that. 
I love the kid, but let's go 950

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stuff. 
I think I undersold it. 

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Aaron and I know the advanced 
numbers last year when he was 

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not, when the stats weren't 
there, but he was hitting the 

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ball hard. 
You knew it was there, kind of 

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like Grisham a little bit this 
year who's starting to, you 

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know, now get rewarded for 
hitting the ball hard. 

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What what, what makes him 
different from other young hit? 

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I know he's 27, but in terms of 
experience from other young 

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hitters, what? 
Why is he different? 

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You know, I think the big thing 
with let me go back real quick 

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on, on Benny, I think the big 
thing was 24 more so than even 

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last year. 
The underlying stuff like he, he

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came up and did some good things
for us in 24. 

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And then if you recall, there 
was about a month stretch where 

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he really struggled 
statistically punched out a lot.

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But through that was really 
hitting the ball hard. 

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So he's hitting 180 or whatever.
But it was like that's when you 

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saw like this guy's got a chance
to really hit. 

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And then obviously he has a 
great year last year and still 

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hits some tough luck thinks he 
does, man. 

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I think his he's obviously hits 
the ball hard. 

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I think I think has a real 
simple swing in how he gets 

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loaded on his backside and build
speed. 

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So that he, when I say build 
speed, guys do it in different 

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ways, but he doesn't really well
where he's building speed and 

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his swing subtly, that allows 
you to obviously impact the 

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ball, but then it also just as 
importantly allows you to shut 

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down and have brakes, brakes on 
a on a so you're go, go, go, go.

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But I've built speed and I can 
stop my swing to take pitches 

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that are balls. 
So added up, he controls the 

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strike zone tremendously. 
He hits the ball incredibly hard

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and he's just he's a really good
preparer. 

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He's very detailed. 
He wants everything and he 

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processed like, he processes 
like. 

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All right, I know this guys 
forcing ride breaking like he he

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wants to know real specifics and
he he's able to go up there and 

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apply that really. 
Well, interesting You talk about

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building speed and I'm just 
envisioning it's only you trying

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to create this momentum. 
And if you're not perfect with 

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it or if it's not in your 
comfort zone and you're trying 

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to become that kind of a hitter,
I could see you being out in 

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front a lot on your front foot, 
out in front of change ups and 

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and soft stuff. 
So to build the speed and then 

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stop on a dime with the pitch 
recognition, right? 

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But there's, there's, you know, 
within that there's a shortness 

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to a swing. 
There's not a lot of head 

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movement. 
He's loading up on the backside 

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really well. 
So he's getting started on time 

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or even early to like 
ultimately, which allows you to 

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make a really good swing 
decision, which he does. 

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All right, now I don't think we 
need to spend a lot of time on 

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this, but I want to at least 
jump around and hit a bunch of 

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things here. 
So I'm going to be honest with 

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you. 
You couldn't see me because you 

443
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said it over the phone and I'm 
like, here we go. 

444
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,000
And you know, you know, I 
support you and I believe in 

445
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,520
you. 
But when you said this, I'm 

446
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,520
like, come on, man. 
You were talking about Ryan 

447
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,760
McMahon and you said there's 
more in there. 

448
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,160
And I'm like, and I even said 
I'm like, really? 

449
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,920
I'm like, I mean, the guy was in
Colorado 7-8 years. 

450
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,000
You didn't nothing, you know, 
they had one Goodyear whatever, 

451
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,800
like just leap below league 
average. 

452
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,200
Some of the measurables. 
I'm like, I I don't see it. 

453
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,920
And you said he's he's working 
on stuff and it's not going to 

454
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,240
happen right away, but he's 
going to be unlocked a little 

455
00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,480
bit this year, you know, without
speaking over our heads and you 

456
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,680
know, too deep of the baseball 
vernacular. 

457
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,120
What is different? 
What is he doing differently 

458
00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:05,760
here? 
Booney. 

459
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,720
I mean the last few weeks. 
Yeah. 

460
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:09,600
Oh yeah. 
Oh yeah. 

461
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,200
He's hitting well. 
So to me, he's he's, he's 

462
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,840
getting to his backside better, 
which which is allowing the bat 

463
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,640
in the zone longer because he's 
got real juice like he can, he 

464
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,600
can juice the ball to left 
center. 

465
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,480
He's got real pop. 
He's got some strike zone 

466
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,640
knowledge and control. 
But I felt like, especially the 

467
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,680
first couple weeks of the 
season, you know, there was a 

468
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,160
little forward movement and a 
little steep in and out of the 

469
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,120
zone. 
Now it to me, it's pretty 

470
00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:43,200
noticeable and and he hasn't 
changed his stance or anything 

471
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:48,720
like that or Yep, you know, but 
but he I feel like he's maybe 

472
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,280
for lack of a better way of 
putting it behind the baseball a

473
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:52,560
little bit. 
More that makes sense, 

474
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,800
therefore. 
He's in the zone and so there's 

475
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,760
some margin for error there, 
which I don't think he was 

476
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,560
giving himself early on. 
Can you send Austin Wells to the

477
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,880
same school? 
Come on, man. 

478
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,880
I'm about. 
Listen, Booty, I'm waiting on 

479
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,360
this kid. 
I know he's on base a little 

480
00:23:08,360 --> 00:23:09,800
bit. 
I know he's got he's got juice. 

481
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,320
He's going to hit 20 something 
home runs. 

482
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:16,160
But I thought for sure that he 
would be a more advanced or 

483
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,480
sophisticated hitter. 
He's just he's just an out 

484
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,720
machine too much. 
What's going on with Wells? 

485
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,160
Yeah, Yeah. 
I do like the fact that he is 

486
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,080
walking a little bit this year, 
but we got to get him going. 

487
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:34,160
I mean, I like you like expect a
lot out of them, expect more out

488
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,000
of them. 
Even what he's done his first 

489
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,400
couple years, I feel like 
there's more in there and we, 

490
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,360
you know, we haven't totally 
been able to unlock that yet. 

491
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,120
His I know in in even talked 
with the hitting coaches the 

492
00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:50,560
other day. 
His work behind the scenes has 

493
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,600
been really good and really 
consistent to where he's a guy 

494
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,240
like building speed. 
Like I want him to have a little

495
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,640
more of a load and a little bit 
more of a move. 

496
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,600
So you're making then you're 
making good swing decisions. 

497
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:07,120
You're recognizing secondary as 
you, you know, load and get 

498
00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:10,720
started. 
He's catching his butt off. 

499
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,080
He's doing a great job there. 
You know, one of the things is 

500
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:19,760
we've gone through this stretch 
the last like since G's been out

501
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:24,000
and then you know, we've 
obviously been very left-handed.

502
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,960
So there's been some games where
they've been able to run some 

503
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:32,120
left-handed relievers through us
where that makes for some night 

504
00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:33,960
in and night out, tougher match 
up. 

505
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:41,440
So but we got to get them going 
because I feel like him right, 

506
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,880
especially down towards the 
bottom of the order can be a 

507
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,880
real factor with some pop and 
and getting on base a little bit

508
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,200
so. 
What, what did you see from 

509
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,400
Jones in terms of makeup? 
But I, I, you know, before you 

510
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,600
answer that and listen, the 
power is ridiculous. 

511
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,200
I mean, he, if he sticks around,
you know, this year, he's going 

512
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,400
to hit a couple in the upper 
deck. 

513
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,600
I don't know what the average 
will be, but his power is 

514
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,720
immense and he's a good fielder.
That batting stance makes me 

515
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,520
nervous, man. 
I just, I can't get behind it. 

516
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,200
I know that's how he hits. 
I know, I understand that right?

517
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,520
It's evolved. 
It's even evolved since since 

518
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,960
spring training a little bit. 
So as long as he's getting the 

519
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,000
position early and and getting 
his foot down and keeping it 

520
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,840
simple, I've actually he hasn't 
really gotten any results here 

521
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,920
in this first whatever five 
games, however many he's played 

522
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,440
down. 
You know, I felt like even from 

523
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,120
the from jump, you know, we give
him Mesirowski and and Harrison 

524
00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:38,560
from the left side of his first 
two assignments. 

525
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,640
Not an easy task. 
What is it? 

526
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,640
That quality was was solid. 
Like even Mesirowski punched him

527
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,680
out twice and he walked against 
them like thought he was getting

528
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,560
in good position, thought he was
getting off good swings, 

529
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,120
controlling the zone a little 
bit. 

530
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:58,920
So, you know, he's been in a 
really, he had a really good 

531
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,720
spring and, and, and in spring 
there were some days too where 

532
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,840
it's like this is going to be a 
tough matchup for him. 

533
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,440
And he went out and was stacking
really good at bats even against

534
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,640
some of those in those 
situations. 

535
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,400
Then he went to AAA obviously to
start the year, got off to a 

536
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,160
good start the first week and 
then for about 10 days really 

537
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,920
struggled some, a lot of swing 
and miss. 

538
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,000
Just in the last few weeks, it's
been more in line with who he 

539
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,680
was in spring training, you 
know, obviously earned the turn,

540
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,880
the call up. 
And so hopefully, you know, as 

541
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:35,080
he gets some run here, you know,
hopefully he can get on base a 

542
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,560
little bit and, and, and maybe 
pop a few. 

543
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,080
Yeah, I mean, it just looks so 
much more fluid. 

544
00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:42,160
And, you know, I, I feel 
terribly for Dominguez. 

545
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,720
The irony is he gets hurt after 
making a really good play in the

546
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,240
outfield, banging into the wall.
But he's a, he's a more natural,

547
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,800
gifted, instinctual outfielder 
than Dominguez. 

548
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,120
I mean, that that's pretty 
apparent, right? 

549
00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:54,240
You guys see that as well? 
Yeah. 

550
00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:02,280
I mean, I think probably a tick 
above, yeah, but they're both 

551
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,880
still a work in progress out 
there. 

552
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,160
All right, help us out with 
this. 

553
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,200
I'm always intrigued by this. 
So somebody like Lombard, you 

554
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,840
could call them up today and he 
could put them in 3rd. 

555
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,400
He'd be great, short, great 
second grade. 

556
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,480
Probably throw them in left 
field. 

557
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,000
He'd be fine as well. 
Kids already A+ defender. 

558
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,520
I know that you needed to see 
him hit last year. 

559
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,360
Mixed results this year, 
thumping the ball, AA, crush, 

560
00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:26,640
AAA, some bad luck. 
But the the advance stuff, he 

561
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,000
was really good. 
Does he have a chance to be on 

562
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,280
the team at some point this 
year? 

563
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,760
I know, I know that you think 
so. 

564
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:38,640
Oh yeah, I mean, he's, you know,
last year when he went to AA 

565
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,320
numbers wise, he didn't, he 
didn't crush it. 

566
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,360
But like you said this, like he,
he, he the underlying stuff was 

567
00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:52,120
a lot better for him in AA than 
what his what the season stats 

568
00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:54,320
were. 
And we recognized that. 

569
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,520
So, but we wanted him to go to 
AA to start this year, 

570
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:03,360
especially first, you know, kind
of conquer AA, you know, start 

571
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:07,080
of the season, it's cold like 
not race him to AAA right away. 

572
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:12,680
He goes to AA, kills it, earns 
the promotion and and yeah, the 

573
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,200
underlying stuff, even a AAA has
been really good. 

574
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,880
He's walking a ton, he's hitting
the ball really hard, he's 

575
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,520
hitting some tough luck. 
He can really defend. 

576
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,040
He's different. 
No, he's different. 

577
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:23,520
He. 
Really. 

578
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,280
Defend everywhere. 
He's different. 

579
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,120
He's a different kind of player.
He's different. 

580
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,280
So absolutely, I think he could 
be a factor for us this year. 

581
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,000
I, I, you know, we don't want to
race him up necessarily too 

582
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,640
quick because he's just getting 
to AAA and he's 21 years old and

583
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:42,640
like, but he, he will, if he's, 
he's not far away, I'll tell you

584
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:43,800
that much. 
Interesting. 

585
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,160
I was surprised and I know that 
you know, mixed and matched a 

586
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,840
little bit in the short time 
that he was with Volpe. 

587
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,120
And I'll get to Anthony in a 
moment. 

588
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,600
Volpe is starting today, right. 
By the way, I didn't see is jazz

589
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,160
out there. 
I'm going to get to jazz in a 

590
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,280
second as well. 
I was surprised. 

591
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,240
I mean, listen, I I know 
sometimes it sounds like I I 

592
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,560
think that I know more than you 
guys. 

593
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,560
I know that I don't. 
But if if I'm you guys, I'm not 

594
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,720
playing one board at 2nd at all.
I'm putting Volpe at 2nd and I'm

595
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,560
letting Lombard play short. 
What was the thought process 

596
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,480
behind mixing and matching with 
that experiment? 

597
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,520
Well, look, with with obviously 
the situation with Anthony that 

598
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,920
came up when it's rehab, we 
didn't want to just say, OK, 

599
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,800
you're don't option yet and 
you're going to play this 

600
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,760
position that like still a lot 
of ways, it's still spring 

601
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,800
training and his build up and 
it's like go play part of 

602
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,840
George's development plan or 
his, you know, the last couple 

603
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,480
years is he has played 
everywhere and he's thrived 

604
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,240
everywhere. 
So at least in the short term, 

605
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,600
we felt like we didn't want to, 
you know, mess with that or 

606
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,480
ruffle that or put any more on 
Anthony right away. 

607
00:29:54,480 --> 00:30:01,480
So doesn't mean, doesn't mean we
won't at some point, but that 

608
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,120
that's simple as that. 
Yeah, no, I get it. 

609
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,520
And listen, I also understand, 
you know, Volpe's trying to 

610
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,280
figure things out in a big way 
with the stick. 

611
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,600
I mean, it's complicated coming 
off the shoulder injury. 

612
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,760
So he couldn't really work 
mechanically on stuff for a 

613
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,520
while. 
And you're right, it is still 

614
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,760
early. 
I, I guess like even though the 

615
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,920
arm strength is, is obviously 
favorable towards Lombard by, by

616
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,680
I think a fairly significant 
margin. 

617
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,280
I can see why you guys would be 
a little reluctant to start 

618
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,160
pumping Volpe to different 
positions when he's still trying

619
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,280
to figure things out with the 
stick, which gets me to this. 

620
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,440
You know, there's there's 
promotions based on 

621
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,000
circumstances and then there's 
promotions based on true merit 

622
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,640
and earning it. 
And I don't think it's unfair to

623
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,400
say that Volpe didn't earn this 
promotion based on the way he 

624
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,160
hit. 
Now I know he's done good things

625
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,920
for you in the past. 
The Grand Slam in the World 

626
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,960
Series, I was there, the Gold 
Glove. 

627
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,800
I get it. 
I'm more of a Volpe supportive 

628
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,000
than not. 
But to me, you know, if he 

629
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,360
doesn't play well during these X
amount of games with Caballero 

630
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:05,240
on the ILI mean what is the plan
if he doesn't perform? 

631
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:11,920
Ship them back. 
Again, I'm not that's first 

632
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,480
thing the quickest copies back 
is 9 days. 

633
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,880
That's again in the baseball 
season a long time. 

634
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,040
Like we're not making any 
decision today on that we'll 

635
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:28,640
make we'll make any any decision
we have to make when when the 

636
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,160
time presents itself. 
So right now, like he's going to

637
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,960
be in there and needs to be an 
important part of helping us win

638
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,480
games right now. 
So that's how I look at it. 

639
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:42,600
Was it a tough decision to once 
the 20 day rehab stint was over 

640
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,120
to to tell him and make that 
transaction? 

641
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,440
You're not coming to the Bronx 
yet, you got to go to the 

642
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,440
minors. 
What was that like? 

643
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,520
Yeah. 
I mean, I think just first of 

644
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,840
all, the respect we have for 
Anthony and who he is 

645
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:02,800
physically, mentally, like he's 
just, you know, how you want 

646
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,520
your guys to be like he's, he's 
team first. 

647
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,320
He works his tail off. 
He's a grinder. 

648
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,560
He's been through a lot. 
Obviously here at the big league

649
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,080
level, he's a big part of this. 
So, yeah, it's a tough call to 

650
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,760
make. 
It's a tough thing. 

651
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,320
But we also felt like it was 
absolutely the right thing to do

652
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,800
at that time. 
So you know, you're, you're, 

653
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,400
you're making to varying 
degrees, difficult decisions 

654
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,000
throughout the season all the 
time. 

655
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,200
This was one of them, but one we
felt convicted in. 

656
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,840
Yeah. 
No, you guys made the right 

657
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,720
decision. 
Listen, you've been here a long 

658
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,240
time and I know that you know, 
you've got the respect of the 

659
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,920
room, certainly, but the judge 
and and extending downhill from 

660
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,520
that, which is obviously very 
important as the manager. 

661
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,600
Did you think, and I know it's 
an organizational decision at 

662
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,200
that point, like with a Volpee 
or eventually a Lombard if he 

663
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,480
comes up this year. 
Did you think that or how much 

664
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,600
did you wrestle with potentially
losing not respect, but but 

665
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:05,200
maybe some points in the locker 
room for maybe unjustly 

666
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,600
rewarding Volpe. 
I'm talking about a week or so 

667
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,120
ago and penalizing Caballero 
when he was playing well. 

668
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,320
Guys know who's playing well. 
How much of a factor was that 

669
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:19,000
Skip? 
Not much. 

670
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,320
I mean, you're, you're trying to
do what's right for our team 

671
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,680
first and foremost. 
First and foremost, it's about 

672
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,960
the Yankees. 
And then second, secondary to 

673
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,760
that is like, so, so you're 
making what you feel like is the

674
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,440
best decision for us. 
That's that's where you start. 

675
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:40,000
And then you also care about the
individuals involved and people 

676
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,920
involved and livelihoods and all
that. 

677
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,680
So you try to be sensitive to 
that and aware of that and read 

678
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:53,120
the room to a degree. 
But at the end of the day, right

679
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,400
or wrong, you got to make a 
decision. 

680
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,680
You're convicted. 
OK, All right, so let's get to 

681
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,520
Jazz Chisholm here. 
So he's going to play today. 

682
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,400
Got the night off yesterday, hit
the reboot, reset a little bit. 

683
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,280
I mean, he's he's a mess right 
now. 

684
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:11,080
And you know that just no, the 
numbers are are alarmingly bad. 

685
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,120
It's still early enough to flip 
this. 

686
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,560
I guess. 
I like Jazz, but he he worries 

687
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,760
me. 
I've been on the record with 

688
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,920
that for a lot of reasons that I
don't need to restate now. 

689
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,120
You know what they are. 
My audience knows what they are.

690
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,360
When he said 5050, like there's 
a fine line between being 

691
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,000
confident. 
I'm not even going to say 

692
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,760
delusional because that like 
that's supreme confidence. 

693
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,520
I'm not trying to diss him, but 
when I heard that, I'm like 

694
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,639
that's a problem because he 
doesn't have natural 40 home run

695
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:41,600
or 45 home run power. 
He's never done that talented 

696
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,400
guy. 
I said to myself, this is going 

697
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,080
to be a big issue mechanically 
and he's going to sell out and 

698
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,960
the KS are going up and the 
contacts going down and right 

699
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:58,400
now he is a, he is a mess. 
How when he said what he said, 

700
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,840
did your antennas go up? 
Like I'm going to have to watch 

701
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,120
this. 
I mean, because he does not look

702
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,320
like the same guy. 
What? 

703
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,200
Where do we go with Jazz here, 
Aaron? 

704
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,640
I think it's had zero impact. 
Really. 

705
00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:14,680
Yeah, in fact, there's days. 
There's days he's trying too 

706
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:20,240
hard to hit it to left and keep 
his front shot and he's he's 

707
00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:28,320
been yes, mechanically off his 
swing is is underneath the ball 

708
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,400
a little too much. 
Like the biggest thing is his 

709
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,880
swing decisions are are in line 
with who he's been. 

710
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:40,480
He's missing pitches that he 
does damage on, sometimes 

711
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,040
swinging and miss, sometimes 
foul, sometimes pop up, 

712
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:50,400
sometimes roll over. 
So and I would say you kind of 

713
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,160
get you kind of, I know it's 
like he's going to go off at 

714
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,000
some. 
Point like. 

715
00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:59,960
And he's never hit 40 homers, 
like hit 30 last year and missed

716
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:01,600
a month. 
Like that's true. 

717
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,440
Like I'm not saying he's not a 
flawed or he's not he's this 

718
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,920
perfect player by any means, but
he is a dynamic, really good 

719
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,720
player that at some point pretty
soon will go off. 

720
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,920
And I mean, look around the 
league, look around the league. 

721
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:25,640
There are dozens of star players
that are off to really rough 

722
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,880
starts, in some ways rough. 
Like I, I look every night and 

723
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,120
look up on that board and 
there's like pretty good players

724
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,000
that have have A5 in front of 
their OPS. 

725
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,280
Yeah. 
I mean, yeah. 

726
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,240
And he's one of them, yeah. 
Well, now he's got a six. 

727
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,080
You sure all right, does he? 
Not against lefties, but I got 

728
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,080
you I. 
Got you. 

729
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,240
I got you, although he got a big
hit the other night off the 

730
00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:49,120
lefty. 
It's about time he got to hit 

731
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,920
off the. 
Left I I I not not this kind of 

732
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,000
like it's been a struggle. 
And and yeah. 

733
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,720
It has been and, and he and I 
have talked about it, like, 

734
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,200
look, you're going through it. 
There's a lot like hitting. 

735
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,720
I say this a lot, but it's so 
true. 

736
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,680
Like hitting is so damn hard. 
I know it is. 

737
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:12,920
And I know it's such a bear like
the season, like you get 

738
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,160
struggling, you get scuffling, 
like I don't care who you are. 

739
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,760
I don't care if you're me. 
I don't care if you're some 

740
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,280
scrub. 
I don't care if you're Ken 

741
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,360
Griffey Junior. 
Like you play this game, it's 

742
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:29,080
going to bring you to your knees
just hitting hard and, and it's 

743
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,400
like, man, you get in your head 
a little bit, you're trying to 

744
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,560
make adjustments and then you're
making too many adjustments and 

745
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,280
you're over thinking like you 
got to strike that balance. 

746
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,400
So yeah, it's like, it's like 
booty. 

747
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,200
It's like golf, you know, like 
you fidget with the grip and the

748
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,960
tape back and before you know it
you're hitting worm burners and 

749
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,840
you drop in your drawers because
you didn't hit it past the 

750
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,600
Ladies Day. 
I know it's hard, but he's 

751
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:54,400
making it look really hard. 
I agree, but he will, he will. 

752
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,840
He will absolutely get it going.
Let me ask you this and I know 

753
00:37:58,840 --> 00:37:59,920
he's going to go on a hot 
streak. 

754
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,360
To his cred, I think he's his 
defense been excellent. 

755
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:04,680
Yeah, he's he's picking the 
ball. 

756
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:05,920
I got you on that. 
Let me ask you this. 

757
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,560
So we talked about Lombard and 
he still has, you know, a little

758
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,040
work to do here AAA and this is 
there's a lot of variables here,

759
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,200
but I want to at least get a 
thought. 

760
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,120
Now I've got one more for you. 
I know you got to go and get on 

761
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,160
the field and do your stuff 
here. 

762
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:22,240
So let's say Lombard crushes it 
for the next month at AAA and he

763
00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:24,600
gets the call. 
Let's just say, let's say Volpe 

764
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,240
really looks good these next 9 
or 10 days, whatever it might 

765
00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:30,760
be. 
Caballero comes back, super sub 

766
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,800
bouncing around. 
Is there a situation where if 

767
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,440
Jazz doesn't get his act 
together, you know, Jazz could 

768
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,160
be a part time player, maybe 
just against righties, like is 

769
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,040
that on the table? 
Because it's been so bad? 

770
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,400
And I know he's going to wake up
a little bit, but if he doesn't,

771
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,200
would would everything be an 
option at this point? 

772
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,320
It's. 
Major League sports, so there's 

773
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:55,720
always of course, but you're 
playing a lot of play it out 

774
00:38:55,720 --> 00:39:00,920
hypothetical. 
The reality is we feel like, you

775
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,920
know, we feel like we have a 
really good team and one of the 

776
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,840
things that we like about our 
team is the depth that we have. 

777
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,840
Yes, yeah, I agree with that. 
I like the. 

778
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,120
Depth and probably more depth 
than since I've been here that 

779
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,520
we've ever had to where, which, 
which, which that is part of 

780
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,000
that depth. 
That means competition, that 

781
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,000
means healthy competition for 
meaningful roles. 

782
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,440
So hopefully that continues to 
play out that way and and we'll 

783
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,480
pay attention to what we're 
seeing and try and do the right 

784
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,280
thing for ultimately for this. 
OK. 

785
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,920
All right. 
Last thing now, I had Kay on the

786
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,760
show not about two weeks or so 
ago and he used the word 

787
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,720
ruthless in a good way. 
I have used, you know, 

788
00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:49,040
variations of the word, right? 
You guys seem to be operating a 

789
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,240
little differently this year and
whether it's urgency, ruthless, 

790
00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:54,400
whatever word you want to use 
and maybe it's because there is 

791
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,760
more depth and I agree, you did 
not have that. 

792
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,960
You as the manager did not have 
the buttons to push that you 

793
00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:01,560
have now. 
All right, I'll leave it at 

794
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:02,800
that. 
I think we all know that that's 

795
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,520
true, whether it's Rosario, the 
other players they brought in 

796
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,160
last year. 
Good job by cash with that, the 

797
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,880
pitching aside, right? 
So to me. 

798
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,600
Luis Seal struggles. 
You're in the minors, McMahon, 

799
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,200
your loss for the first couple 
of weeks. 

800
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,760
All right, we got a righty. 
You're sitting. 

801
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,320
Rosario, you hit lefties real 
well. 

802
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,240
We're going to throw out there 
against the righty. 

803
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,320
We're going to do things that 
are different from what we've 

804
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,920
done. 
Or the Yankees operating at a 

805
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:32,280
different speed this year. 
Urgency, I think you are. 

806
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,000
Yeah, I've heard this. 
People have asked me this a few 

807
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:42,680
times and I don't think at all. 
I mean, because I live between 

808
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:48,920
the walls for the last 8-9 years
here and every year I've ever 

809
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:53,760
been here, there's like that 
urgency, like we want to win it 

810
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,680
all. 
That's what we're fighting for. 

811
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,200
So I don't think that's the 
case. 

812
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,800
I think that does a disservice 
to again, what we've, what we've

813
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:07,000
done in the past and what my 
experience has been like, we're 

814
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,840
kind of hell bent on like trying
to put a championship team 

815
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,960
together and out there. 
I, I would say the difference is

816
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,800
we are deeper now. 
So it allows for those things to

817
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:22,760
happen, which looks like I guess
urgency or whatever. 

818
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,120
But to me it that hasn't 
changed. 

819
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,440
Listen, I'm not saying that you 
guys don't want to win prior 

820
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:28,880
years. 
You know, the payroll is very 

821
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,520
high. 
I know some people get on how I 

822
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,440
don't have an issue with how he 
spends a lot of money. 

823
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,200
You know, I've said what I've 
said about Brian, even though I 

824
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,600
respect him. 
But to me, yeah, I think maybe 

825
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,680
behind the scenes you guys have 
always operated with with that 

826
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,720
urgency. 
But what we're seeing is, and 

827
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:47,800
I'm sure it's based on the 
depth, if you don't perform at a

828
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,080
certain level, we got somebody 
else that we're putting in. 

829
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,920
And that's why that's why I 
asked about Jazz if if he can 

830
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,960
maybe become a platoon player if
it doesn't get going. 

831
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,840
And the Volpe stuff and the heel
stuff and the McMahon stuff and 

832
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,040
all the Dominguez didn't make 
the team, which I didn't agree 

833
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,760
with that I told you that. 
But when I talked to you in 

834
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,160
February, you're like, we'll 
see. 

835
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,880
And I did not think he was going
to make the team and he didn't. 

836
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,240
And I thought he did it enough 
last year to show that he was a 

837
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:14,080
Major League player. 
But the fact that he didn't 

838
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,040
start the team with the year 
with the bigs in the banks to me

839
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:21,160
was like just another under 
score of hey, we're not messing 

840
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,080
around, man. 
And I I like to see it. 

841
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,600
So I I like to see it. 
What I got to see, though, 

842
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,880
coming up this week, I got to 
see you handle the Mets sees 

843
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,800
here, Booney. 
You can't let the Mets get 

844
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,800
going. 
You can't let them get going. 

845
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,720
You can't. 
Let's go, dude. 

846
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:36,200
That's it. 
Put them in the grave. 

847
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,160
And here's one more thing. 
And I'm curious when you see 

848
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,560
why. 
I know you got great respect for

849
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,560
Soto, but when you see Juan, are
we dapping up? 

850
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,840
Are we hugging or are you like 
this dude left us, man. 

851
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,360
I he's great. 
But yo, you left us, man, you. 

852
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,440
You do your thing. 
I'll give him a big hug. 

853
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,800
It'll be good to see him. 
Hopefully we contain him. 

854
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:58,680
But he was, he was great for us.
And he was, he was great with 

855
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,000
us. 
Pride. 

856
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,720
Pride still misses us. 
You think so? 

857
00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:07,120
You don't think he's enjoying 16
and 25 and and like 5 scrubs 

858
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,280
around them? 
I mean you think he misses that?

859
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,520
Where's Volpe hitting today? 
7th, 8th, or 9th? 

860
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:13,680
8th. 
He's hitting eighth. 

861
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:19,840
OK, Where's Jazz at 6755? 
Drop him down a slot, make him 

862
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,000
earn it. 
All right, man, I we're. 

863
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,400
Well, we're just a little, you 
know, look, he was hitting six 

864
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,640
when he was hit 3030. 
And you know when G comes back 

865
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,560
and certain things, then you 
know you get into a good spot 

866
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,520
there. 
Hey, by the way, don't be averse

867
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,560
to doing it all the time. 
I know Goldie's been very good 

868
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:37,840
for you guys. 
I know you love him too. 

869
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,040
Great leader. 
I would bad listen. 

870
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,120
I would start against righties. 
I'm going Ben Rice 1 Aaron Judge

871
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,400
too. 
That's what I would do. 

872
00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:46,880
You don't do it enough. 
Why don't you do that? 

873
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,680
But if Shohei Otani can hit 
first, why can't Ben Rice? 

874
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,000
He can't, and he has before. 
But I mean all the time against 

875
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,000
righty skip all the time I would
do it. 

876
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,600
But then what's the what's, 
what's it look like after that? 

877
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,440
Well, that's up to you. 
I mean, Bell Belly three's been 

878
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:05,480
great. 
Bellinger's great. 

879
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,240
He's been. 
Really good because a couple of 

880
00:44:07,240 --> 00:44:09,800
these times I've like today I 
only got 2 righties in the 

881
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,400
lineup. 
So you start hitting judgy 

882
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:16,080
second and then you've just got 
all these patches of runs for 

883
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,760
lefty relievers, so. 
Yep, Yep. 

884
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,480
That's where you miss kind of 
big G in the mix too. 

885
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,680
Well, listen, you know that. 
I it's in the middle. 

886
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,240
We, we always oversimplify this.
I know, I know. 

887
00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:29,160
It's never as easy as as as it 
is. 

888
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,400
We make it seem easier than it 
really is. 

889
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,560
Dude, go do your thing. 
I told you guys listen. 

890
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,000
Thank God. 
That's a Hall of Famer. 

891
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,680
That's a Hall of Famer. 
Who is? 

892
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,600
Right. 
I, I agree with that. 

893
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,000
I agree with that, But that 
doesn't mean he's been as good 

894
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,000
as, you know, as he was early in
his career. 

895
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,400
I mean, there's a lot of hold of
Famers the last 10 years they 

896
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,800
were holding on. 
I'm not saying Cash is holding 

897
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,440
on. 
He's great out of BT. 

898
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,360
He's he's really good at it. 
Great's a little bit of a 

899
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:56,280
stretch. 
Come on, man. 

900
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,840
Great. 
Hey, 2009's been a minute, 

901
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,240
Booney. 
Come on. 

902
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,680
I. 
Know all right, so he's good. 

903
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,320
He's he's a hold of Famer. 
We we agree on that. 

904
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,240
He's great at it right now. 
He's great at. 

905
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:10,880
It all right, babe, Go get a 
win. 

906
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,800
I appreciate you adjusting the 
schedule. 

907
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,440
Thank you for your generosity. 
I'll see you later, Boonie. 

908
00:45:15,720 --> 00:45:17,040
See you man. 
There you go, dude. 

909
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:17,960
There he is. 
Of course. 

910
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,920
The skipper, the Yankees, Aaron 
Boone, he's got to drop that 

911
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,360
last thing at the end. 
Cash is great. 

912
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,040
That's good, that. 
Was awesome, yeah. 

913
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,040
He's the he. 
I love him. 

914
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:32,360
I do listen and people say, oh, 
you're not hard on Boone, dude. 

915
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,320
I I think that you know, because
of our. 

916
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,840
Friends definitely got some. 
You definitely digging a little 

917
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,560
bit trying to dig. 
Come on, I'm never going to fuck

918
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,520
around with this stuff. 
Like whatever needs to be asked 

919
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,440
is going to be asked. 
And he knows that. 

920
00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:47,440
Like really. 
Like I'll never forget. 

921
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,040
I was going. 
It was my daughter's rec 

922
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,800
basketball game. 
And the phone rings and it's 

923
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,960
him. 
And one thing I won't, I should 

924
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:57,960
say this too. 
You know, I do measure people, 

925
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,960
not just not just on wins and 
losses like I and I know that 

926
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,800
that's basically the essence of 
my job. 

927
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,240
But when you have the kind of 
character that Aaron Boone has, 

928
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,040
I'm going to support you now. 
I'm not going to, you know, I 

929
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,560
mean, if the Yankees won 81 
games this year, I'd say, all 

930
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:14,640
right, it's time for change, 
man. 

931
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,120
Like at some point there's a 
point of exploration. 

932
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,640
But when things went down, 
personally came into studio with

933
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,880
me and Sal, I mean, he's just, 
he's just the real one. 

934
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,040
He's just a great freaking guy. 
And I know that many of you wish

935
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,480
you had a different manager. 
You know, I think one of the 

936
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:38,400
things that he said right there 
about the option or the 

937
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,360
optionality is a lot of these 
these coaches and managers like 

938
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,760
to you or is GM's optionality. 
You know, part of the reason 

939
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,120
they appear more cut throat this
year. 

940
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,800
And I do think that they are, 
despite what he just said, is 

941
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,520
that there are more options. 
And I don't I think that that's 

942
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,600
been part of the issue with 
Brian Cashman. 

943
00:46:54,960 --> 00:47:00,520
And that's why in terms of the 
pecking order of issues, Brian 

944
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,440
Cashman has always been far 
ahead of Aaron Boone for me. 

945
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,280
Like you can, you know, listen, 
this is not like high school 

946
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,360
basketball where you can have 
some inferior team, but you 

947
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,600
know, you can stall and you 
could have come up with some 

948
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,320
elaborate game plan and there's 
a massive disparity and talent. 

949
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,560
But because you're such an 
innovative coach and and you 

950
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,080
know, everything's so well oiled
that you can compete at a level 

951
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,520
that you probably shouldn't 
compete. 

952
00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:29,080
This is Major League Baseball. 
I mean, you get to a certain 

953
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,400
level, you either got the horses
or you don't. 

954
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:36,080
And and what I've always said 
about Aaron Boone is that there 

955
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:37,560
has not been. 
Now, some of you disagree with 

956
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,760
this, and that's fine that that 
is fine, but I don't think that 

957
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:46,000
he has ever had a season where I
went into the year saying the 

958
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,840
Yankees should win the World 
Series and they didn't. 

959
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,880
Now, I thought they'd have a 
much better chance to get there 

960
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,320
with Soto, but we knew the 
Dodgers were better now that 

961
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,720
that Yankees didn't play well 
where they were not buttoned up,

962
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,240
kicking the ball all around. 
Judge the play at first base 

963
00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:02,040
with Cole and Rizzo, Jazz, you 
know, in space at second, 

964
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,000
understood the play with Volpe 
and Jazz at third base. 

965
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,760
No question about that. 
Yankees were not buttoned up and

966
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,520
the Dodgers said so. 
And I thought that was a bad 

967
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,280
look for the Yankees. 
But the, you know, the ability 

968
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,320
to maximize a roster, you got to
have some players to lean on. 

969
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:21,200
Like that's why I have I'm 
always going to be fair. 

970
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,080
And Cashman, the most of the 
pitchers he picked up last year 

971
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,000
have stunk. 
They've stunk. 

972
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,160
But Rosario, really good 
addition, you know, Caballero, 

973
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,960
outstanding addition. 
And to me, you know, you look 

974
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,640
back at at the Yankee dynasty 
now, of course they had just 

975
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,600
better great, more great 
players, obviously. 

976
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,280
But like, are you telling me 
Joel Torrey was a better manager

977
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,360
than than Aaron Boone? 
I would tell you that. 

978
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,520
Now, I can't prove one way or 
the other, but I would tell you 

979
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,320
that Joe Torre had a lot more 
options. 

980
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,960
And I don't just mean Tino and 
Jeter and Bernie and Moe and 

981
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,400
Pettit and Clemens and Posada 
and Daryl and Tim Rains and 

982
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,240
Mariano Duncan. 
Like I'm talking about, you 

983
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:04,000
know, across the board, you 
know, reliable relief pitchers, 

984
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,840
Mendoza, You know, obviously 
Stanton guys like setting things

985
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,400
up for MO. 
I I just feel like it's always 

986
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,640
been more mix and match with the
most recent iteration of the 

987
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,600
Yankees. 
So I'm not saying that Aaron 

988
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,120
Boone is Miller Huggins and 
without flaw, but I just think 

989
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,720
that so and I do think he really
mismanaged the game over the 

990
00:49:21,720 --> 00:49:25,360
weekend in Milwaukee, right. 
But I you know, in terms of the 

991
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,440
bullpen, what he did there. 
I think that and I didn't have 

992
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,360
an issue with him pulling 
weathers the other night. 

993
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,920
I know some of you did. 
I didn't whatever. 

994
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:36,000
I I just think that, you know, 
you are so disappointed and so 

995
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,480
disenchanted with the fact that 
the Yankees haven't won since 

996
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,560
2009, that everything becomes a 
target, and that's fair game. 

997
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,000
I'm not going to tell you not to
do that. 

998
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,120
The only thing that I would say 
is that I think you're a little 

999
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:51,160
a little misguided in some of 
the criticisms. 

1000
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,320
OK, That's the baseball point of
view. 

1001
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,280
All right, One thing about booty
that many of you don't know. 

1002
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,640
So you know, me and Sal are 
doing the middays that the fan 

1003
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,440
like it's one thing your your 
Francesor and Chris or Francesa 

1004
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,800
solo or even the morning show 
boomer and card, whatever it 

1005
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,240
might be, like, you know, you're
going to get a manager or, you 

1006
00:50:11,240 --> 00:50:13,680
know, a a a bit like Dolan goes 
on with Craig. 

1007
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,520
Obviously they've got a good 
relationship and obviously Mike 

1008
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,200
had, you know, hooks up the 
wazoo, knew everybody. 

1009
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,680
I mean, Aaron Boone drove from 
Connecticut in his car by him. 

1010
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,440
No entourage, no Yankee PR 
people, right? 

1011
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,040
Drives from Connecticut and just
to hang out with me and Sal, to 

1012
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,320
play the baseball card game, 
just to kick it around, just, 

1013
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,760
you know, shoot the shit. 
That's the kind of guy he is. 

1014
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,280
And you know, that's when we 
were still employed. 

1015
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,320
And one of the first calls I got
when the news hit was Aaron 

1016
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,520
Boone. 
And I actually remember pulling 

1017
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,720
over to the side of the road on 
my last show, the one where my 

1018
00:50:45,720 --> 00:50:47,640
dad came on. 
You guys remember it? 

1019
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,600
December 19th and I talked to 
Boone for about 40 minutes and 

1020
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,120
we didn't talk about baseball 
once. 

1021
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,680
Like we talked about life and we
talked about faith. 

1022
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,360
And so if any of you have an 
issue with the way I treat 

1023
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,400
Boone, that's just tough. 
I mean, you know, he's not 

1024
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,160
perfect, but that is a good man.
And then when we decided and it 

1025
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,280
was my idea to get this thing 
going, hey, let's do a BT and 

1026
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:10,840
South show. 
Let's see if we could sell this 

1027
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,680
thing out and let's, you know, 
have a celebration and have a 

1028
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,840
live studio audience. 
You know, obviously, you know, a

1029
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,160
lot of people were disappointed 
that we were gone from the fan 

1030
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,000
and it's all good. 
And and I'm like all the booty. 

1031
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,440
I'm like, hey, can you do me a 
solid? 

1032
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,040
He's like, Yep. 
He's like, give me some dates. 

1033
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,200
What you got? 
I'm going out of Tampa here. 

1034
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,760
I'm thinking late January. 
Guy shows up, guy drives from 

1035
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,400
Connecticut. 
We offered him a car we want, 

1036
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,360
you know, I had a nice luxury 
car service. 

1037
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:37,680
He's like, no, I'm good. 
I got it. 

1038
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,640
Drives from Connecticut, goes to
Red Bank, NJ hangs out in the 

1039
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,840
green room, does a shot of vodka
before we go on the stage. 

1040
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,960
Kicks it on the stage with me 
and Sal. 

1041
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,800
Sal getting them on, getting on 
them with Grisham, me getting 

1042
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,520
them on with Grisham, you know, 
some jazz stuff. 

1043
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,480
Just laughing. 
The guy is just an awesome human

1044
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,200
being. 
Now, that doesn't mean that 

1045
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,240
you're the Yankee manager for 25
years. 

1046
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,280
You know, you got to win, but 
that is a good person. 

1047
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,880
And you know, I think if you 
knew him the way that I know 

1048
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:11,120
him, you would absolutely agree.
And you know, think about some 

1049
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:12,440
of the things that we just did 
right? 

1050
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:13,720
Just to bring it back to 
baseball. 

1051
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,400
That is going to be a tough 
conversation, man. 

1052
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,320
If you are Weathers and they're 
still probably 2 weeks before 

1053
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,920
Garrett Cole comes back. 
But if you're Weathers or you're

1054
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:26,000
Will Warren and you know, you 
get, hey, we got to talk man. 

1055
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,640
You going to Boone's office. 
And whether it's Weathers or 

1056
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,160
Warren, somebody's losing their 
starting job in the rotation. 

1057
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,920
And that's going to be a dent 
because Warren deserves to be a 

1058
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,360
starter in Major League 
Baseball. 

1059
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,160
And so does Ryan Weathers, who 
has looked dominant like 4 or 5 

1060
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:41,520
starts. 
He looks unhittable. 

1061
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:46,200
So, you know, and and I was 
surprised and I believe him, you

1062
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,880
know, hey, any, any reluctance 
to have 60% of your rotation 

1063
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,240
lefties because you already have
freed your Rodon's already back.

1064
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,320
And if it's Weathers, you know, 
three out of the five guys are 

1065
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,800
left-handed pitchers and 65% of 
the hitters in baseball are 

1066
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,080
right-handed, right-handed. 
So, you know, they can play on 

1067
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,080
all the numbers, reverse splits 
and all that stuff. 

1068
00:53:05,240 --> 00:53:07,000
He's like, Nah, he's like, I'm 
just looking for the best 

1069
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,400
pitcher. 
So I thought that was 

1070
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,840
interesting. 
Listen, what you just heard 

1071
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,520
there as well. 
Lombard's coming to the Bronx 

1072
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,440
this year. 
You could take that to the bank.

1073
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:21,520
And I said that when they went, 
when he was raking a AA and they

1074
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:26,480
moved him up to AAA as quickly 
as they did that told you he 

1075
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:31,600
will be in pinstripes this year.
This year he will be a Yankee. 

1076
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,760
And what's going to be really 
interesting, and I asked him 

1077
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,160
about this and his answer told 
you a lot, If Jazz Chisholm 

1078
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,240
doesn't wake up, Jazz ain't 
playing every day. 

1079
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,360
Like they're not just going to 
keep running him out there. 

1080
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,680
Now, he is going to heat up at 
some point. 

1081
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,120
Weather's going to get warm. 
You know, he's already got what,

1082
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,080
1314 steals? 
He's going to hit some bombs. 

1083
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,760
He's going to look better than 
he looks. 

1084
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,640
And I'm not a Jazz fan, but his 
track record tells you that he's

1085
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,920
not going to hit 2O2 this year 
with an OPS of 599, whatever it 

1086
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,440
is. 
So he's going to get going. 

1087
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:05,280
But if he gets going and then he
drops back down and Lombard gets

1088
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,800
called up and, you know, and 
Volpe sticks or even if Volpe 

1089
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,840
doesn't play well, they get sent
back to the Miners. 

1090
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:11,800
Caballero goes back to 
shortstop. 

1091
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,720
You're going to see Lombard at 
second base. 

1092
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,800
Like so there's so many things 
at play right now with the 

1093
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,440
Yankees. 
It is incredibly intriguing. 

1094
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,200
It really is. 
And the bullpen, you know, and 

1095
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:29,120
and it's not just about Weathers
or Warren, It's about Rodriguez,

1096
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:33,840
it's about Legrande, It's about,
you know, other guys going into 

1097
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:38,000
different roles that Clark 
Schmidt, when he comes back in, 

1098
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,880
I would have to say late July or
I didn't ask him about Clark 

1099
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:41,920
Schmidt. 
I'll get him back on at some 

1100
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,400
point. 
We'll have a little more time as

1101
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,240
well. 
But, you know, I mean, this is 

1102
00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:49,880
one of the reasons, and they're 
far from perfect, but this is 

1103
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,400
one of the reasons why I think 
the Yankees, if they remain 

1104
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,040
healthy, will represent the 
American League in the World 

1105
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,200
Series. 
I really do. 

1106
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,280
Now, I've got a lot of respect 
for Tampa. 

1107
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,840
You know, I'm not completely 
bury in Toronto. 

1108
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:02,280
You know, there's a couple of 
other. 

1109
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:03,840
You still got to play well, you 
still got to perform. 

1110
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,360
You still got to get it done. 
But you cannot tell me with this

1111
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:11,760
starting rotation, a healthy 
Judge, a healthy Rice, you know,

1112
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,000
better speed, better 
defensively. 

1113
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,720
I know everybody's worried about
the bullpen, but stop worrying 

1114
00:55:17,720 --> 00:55:19,640
about the bullpen. 
I'm not saying that you can't 

1115
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,920
react to blown saves like we've 
seen the last, you know, going 

1116
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,760
back to the Milwaukee series and
the other night against the 

1117
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,320
Orioles and weathers gem. 
That sounds weird. 

1118
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,000
Weathers is, but it's but it's 
correct. 

1119
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,760
Weathers is Weathers gem was was
flushed down the chute. 

1120
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:35,480
I get it. 
You got to react to it. 

1121
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,160
You're pissed off. 
So was I, I can. 

1122
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,320
We went for maybe watching no 
hitter to take it in hell. 

1123
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:43,080
Like, I get it. 
But it's May and the the version

1124
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:48,440
of the Yankee bullpen now is 
going to be radically different 

1125
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,360
from the bullpen that tries to 
get those big outs in October. 

1126
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,120
Trust me. 
All right, J Rod, anything that 

1127
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:56,400
you wanted to chime in on there,
buddy? 

1128
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,160
What did you take away from the 
Booney conversation? 

1129
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:02,240
I mean, I just find it to be so 
interesting how a coach 

1130
00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:04,680
operates. 
I mean, obviously we had Pitino 

1131
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,880
on, but there's a much different
level of scrutiny that you're 

1132
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:12,000
hitting Pitino with questions 
with versus a guy like Booney. 

1133
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,920
And so I think it's just awesome
how it, you know, he has to 

1134
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,600
balance that level of like 
honesty, but also like sticking 

1135
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,840
up for his guys. 
I think that's just like the 

1136
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,760
most interesting part of this 
dynamic. 

1137
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,280
Yeah, and listen, you have to 
understand, I mean, having had 

1138
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:30,320
enough conversations with Aaron,
you know, I, I know how he feels

1139
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,520
about everybody. 
I, I just do, you know, I know 

1140
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:36,360
who he truly believes in. 
And listen, there there's things

1141
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,400
that I disagree with. 
I I told, I told him straight 

1142
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,000
up. 
I'm like when you, when he said 

1143
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,640
about McMahon, if you had a 
little jiff of me rolling my 

1144
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,840
eyes, literally sitting in my 
car waiting to go watch go go 

1145
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,640
coach my daughter's rec game, 
I'm like, he's selling me on 

1146
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,560
Ryan McMahon. 
McMahon like as a hitter, I 

1147
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,400
don't mean as a fielder. 
I'm like, I don't I don't 

1148
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:55,600
believe it. 
I didn't buy it. 

1149
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,360
And the first month of the 
season I'm like, this guy is 

1150
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:02,120
even worse than I thought. 
But the one thing about baseball

1151
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,720
and the one thing that's very 
similar to golf. 

1152
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:06,560
I mean, I guess you could 
probably apply this to 

1153
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,840
everything, but I think those 
two areas as a hitter, I guess 

1154
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,880
as a pitcher as well, but as a 
hitter and is trying to strike a

1155
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,720
golf ball. 
When you overhaul, even if it's 

1156
00:57:15,720 --> 00:57:20,560
not an overhaul, but a a fairly 
important tweak, when you do 

1157
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,720
that, you are invariably going 
to step, you going to step back 

1158
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,400
before you go forwards. 
It's just going to happen. 

1159
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,560
I'm not going to sit here and 
say that Ryan McMahon's going to

1160
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,600
hit 273 this year. 
I'm not saying that at all. 

1161
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,000
But he just can't be an 
automatic out because too often 

1162
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,960
Austin Wells has been an 
automatic out and too often, you

1163
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,200
know, in his Yankee career, 
Anthony Volpe has been an 

1164
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,320
automatic out. 
And if Volpe's playing, which is

1165
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,480
going to be playing today and 
certainly the next week or so, 

1166
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,360
whatever, and maybe beyond that,
if he plays well. 

1167
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,760
But you know, when, when you 
have Volpe at some sort of very 

1168
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:57,160
variation of or order of Volpe, 
Wells, McMahon, in whatever 

1169
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,080
order you want to jumble them up
in, You know, if if you got 

1170
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,320
three guys sitting 2O2, I, you 
know, I understand you don't 

1171
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,760
have to be the 98 Yankees or the
61 Yankees or the Dodgers lineup

1172
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,000
from last year. 
I don't necessarily need that. 

1173
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,080
I I don't or the Big Red 
Machine, but you just can't have

1174
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,880
three guys who can't put the 
pole then play, you know. 

1175
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,960
So that was great, man. 
That was really, really good. 

1176
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:19,920
Everybody enjoy it. 
What? 

1177
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,280
Seems like it seems like people 
enjoyed it. 

1178
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,640
People have really gotten into 
in the chat a debate of whether 

1179
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,240
Giancarlo Stanton will be in the
Hall of Fame or not. 

1180
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,680
That's what they take away from 
the conference. 

1181
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,040
Aaron John Carlos Stanton making
a hold of fame guys get. 

1182
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,640
Your there's a lot of that. 
There's trade, there's focus 

1183
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,280
here. 
There's trade jazz, definitely. 

1184
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,320
I would trade Jazz in a 
heartbeat, you know, And hey, 

1185
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:48,360
there is a fine line between 
being overtly disrespectful to 

1186
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,640
the Yankee manager and and 
letting him know how I feel. 

1187
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:56,200
He knows I just I mean, I, I, I 
the the question about Jazz 

1188
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,840
being a platoon player, if this 
doesn't pick up, that is going 

1189
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:03,320
to be a very interesting 
development to this season 

1190
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,760
because I, you know, to me, and 
that's why I asked him. 

1191
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,360
I'm like, I was surprised that 
you guys had Lombard playing a 

1192
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,560
little bit of second base. 
I would have punted Volpe over 

1193
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,200
there. 
I mean, the arm strength is not 

1194
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,560
even comparable superior for 
Lombard, for Lombard, Obviously,

1195
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,280
you know, and and Caballero 
defensively has been phenomenal 

1196
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,040
this year and not everybody 
wanted to hear it. 

1197
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,560
But I do think you know one 
thing when when Boone talks 

1198
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,240
about numbers, lot of Yankee 
fans roll their eyes. 

1199
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,720
All you had to do is all you 
have to do is watch Caballero 

1200
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,000
play shortstop on a nightly 
basis and the urgency in which 

1201
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,920
he attacks the ball, the arm 
strength. 

1202
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,600
Like there's a reason why I'm 
not saying I'm sitting here 

1203
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,080
watching every single shortstop 
across the board of Major League

1204
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,560
Baseball, but comparing him to 
Anthony Volpe, he's just better.

1205
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,080
I mean, the eye test, forget 
about the advanced analytics, 

1206
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:49,560
the eye test. 
He's just better. 

1207
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:55,920
So you know, it's options are 
really, really good and you 

1208
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,560
know, I think for the first time
in a long time, I think the 

1209
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,720
Yankees actually have some 
options where if you don't 

1210
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,800
perform, we're not rolling you 
out there. 

1211
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,680
Where is back in the day. 
You know, what the hell we going

1212
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,200
to do? 
All right, Aaron Hicks, maybe 

1213
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,280
he's not doing anything. 
Well, I I guess we got play them

1214
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,000
all right. 
Anthony Rizzo is playing 

1215
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:17,560
concussed and he's hitting two O
3 for two months, but I don't 

1216
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,280
have anybody else got to put him
at first base. 

1217
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,920
Or, you know, we don't have a 
left fielder for the 17th time 

1218
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,320
this century, Anthony Gallo 
strikes out 2 1/2 * a game. 

1219
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,840
But I mean, not Joey Anthony 
Gallo. 

1220
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:30,800
Shout out to my guy Gallo with 
the fan. 

1221
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,680
Good dude, big Knicks fan, big 
Johnny's guy. 

1222
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:34,560
I heard him on the air the other
day, too. 

1223
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,680
He sounds good. 
I've told him that he's got a 

1224
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:38,240
chance to do some more shows. 
Good for him. 

1225
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:42,520
But the Joey Gallo, you know, 
striking out 2 1/2 * a night, 

1226
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,880
you don't have a left fielder. 
You got to run him out there. 

1227
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,520
So this is this all represents 
good. 

1228
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:52,760
Now there's no guarantee that 
they will navigate this 

1229
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,920
perfectly, but to me, the more 
options you have yes, the more 

1230
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,680
chances you have to make the 
wrong choice, but the more 

1231
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,560
chances you have to make the 
right choice. 

1232
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,560
So there you go. 
Let me just kind of let me see, 

1233
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:09,280
let me bump into some of these 
things before I get to before I 

1234
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,200
get to some of the stern stuff. 
But Willie under score, Long 

1235
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:12,640
Beach. 
Wow. 

1236
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:16,720
Willie Borelli's, my friends 
over at Borelli, shout out to my

1237
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,720
guy Quinny over at Borelli's and
the entire Long Beach family 

1238
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:23,440
Love loved Long Beach there. 
As a Mets fan, I hate that Boone

1239
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,920
is so likable. 
He's just a nice guy. 

1240
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,360
That's all there is to it. 
I remember he, you know what he 

1241
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,760
is like. 
He's just, he's so approachable.

1242
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,200
He's so down to earth. 
He's so grounded again that 

1243
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,560
doesn't graduate 30 year 
lifetime exemption. 

1244
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,760
I I get it. 
I remember and I always 

1245
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,000
appreciated this about Craig, 
Craig Cardin. 

1246
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:48,720
I remember when I first started 
on the fan with Tikis before Sal

1247
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:55,000
Craig was Craig yeah, Craig was 
obviously still there and I 

1248
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,800
think I think this was before he
left for TVI guess it would have

1249
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,400
been yeah, yeah, cuz then Tiki 
moved in Yeah. 

1250
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:07,960
So he, he reached out and he's 
this was probably 4 years, maybe

1251
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,800
five years ago, somewhere in 
that neighborhood, about 1/2 a 

1252
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:14,000
decade and he reaches out and 
you know, I've always gotten 

1253
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,720
along with Craig, but like never
professed to have this great 

1254
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,000
deep friendship. 
I never had an issue and I like 

1255
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,120
Craig. 
I was texting with him the other

1256
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,160
day. 
I actually said, I said, hey, I 

1257
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,600
said if you need somebody to 
come on and break down the 

1258
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,880
Johnny's that went over so well 
last time, let me know. 

1259
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:28,160
I'll come on with you and see 
Mac. 

1260
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,320
Those guys sound good. 
I catch him once in a while. 

1261
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,560
They said they sound good. 
Anyway, Craig invited me to go 

1262
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,920
to his home in New Jersey to 
watch the Super Bowl with my 

1263
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:40,760
wife and kids. 
And booty was going, Chris 

1264
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,880
Christie was going to be there. 
You know, that's his buddy. 

1265
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:44,560
And Aaron Boone was going to be 
there. 

1266
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,480
And he's like, I remember 
Craig's like, dude, just don't 

1267
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:48,560
berate him. 
Just don't. 

1268
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,360
Because, you know, I was 
getting, I was booty pretty hard

1269
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,720
at that point. 
And like what I was saying, I'm 

1270
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:55,840
like, Nah, dude, I'm, I'm not 
just going to watch the game and

1271
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:57,680
have, you know, have a couple 
beers and hang out, shoot the 

1272
01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:59,600
breeze. 
My son will get a kick out of 

1273
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,640
meeting the Yankee manager. 
But anyway, his youngest son, I 

1274
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:05,880
think he had COVID and he had to
cancel it. 

1275
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,040
But like, I mean, just think 
like, I don't know. 

1276
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,960
I'm not saying that Joe Torre 
wouldn't do that or I don't 

1277
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,000
know. 
But like the guys just go to 

1278
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:14,480
Craig's house to watch the Super
Bowl. 

1279
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,480
He's just that kind of guy. 
And you see, he really is a 

1280
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,800
sports fan. 
Like he loves his Eagles. 

1281
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,880
You know, I hooked him up at a 
St. 

1282
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,800
John's game last year. 
He came to sad courts out at the

1283
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:27,600
John's game. 
He just loves his basketball, 

1284
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,880
loves his football. 
Anyway, you know how my stand on

1285
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:34,040
on on that. 
All right, So what do you mean 

1286
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:37,160
let's get the poll going here. 
People are are asking you get a 

1287
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,760
poll. 
They they, I mean, I know you 

1288
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,280
weren't the biggest fan last 
time. 

1289
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:44,640
Montage One wants me to drop a 
poll of how many people would 

1290
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:49,120
rather have jazz over Volpe. 
Jazz. 

1291
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,800
You know, that would be a very 
interesting poll, actually. 

1292
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,880
I mean, what a make it. 
I'll drop it. 

1293
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,040
I drop it. 
Let's just as long as it doesn't

1294
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,600
look like it's from 1976. 
I mean, if you can make it look 

1295
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,560
somewhat modern and current and 
we could do it. 

1296
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,800
You know that woof. 
I am very curious about the 

1297
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,480
results of that poll there 
because yeah, get it up there, 

1298
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,080
Jay all. 
Right, I'll toss it up. 

1299
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:13,880
Because I think so many Yankee 
fans are done with Jazz and so 

1300
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:15,520
many Yankee fans are done with 
Hopi. 

1301
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:23,760
I think the difference, man, if 
I had to take a guess, I think 

1302
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:27,800
it would be very close. 
I think it would be like 5248, 

1303
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:32,560
you know, 53475446. 
I'll stop there so I don't mess 

1304
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,200
up the math. 
Favoring Volpe. 

1305
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,320
I think Yankee fans know he's a 
little bit more locked in. 

1306
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,920
I think there's a little bit of 
intrigue with Volpe eventually 

1307
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,840
moving to second base. 
If he could hit a little bit 

1308
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:49,720
more consistently and get on 
base, that could be an 

1309
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,800
interesting one. 
Could be an interesting one if 

1310
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,120
you guys. 
Are jazz is at 100%. 

1311
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,840
That they would rather see jazz 
than vote be at second? 

1312
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,160
Yep. 
I mean, how many votes One. 

1313
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,360
No, like 6 or 7 so far, but 
they're coming in. 

1314
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:04,840
They're coming. 
In that's book that's going to 

1315
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:05,560
flip. 
Oh, it's it's. 

1316
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,680
It's updated in real time. 
Yeah, yeah, here. 

1317
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:11,040
We go, all right, let's get a 
couple of calls on the Boone 

1318
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:12,600
spot. 
We'll get to that as well. 

1319
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:14,800
What else do we have? 
All right, let me get to the 

1320
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:15,760
Mets here. 
David Stearns. 

1321
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,440
Can you pop that up on the 
screen there? 

1322
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:23,480
So David Stearns met the media 
yesterday and here's what David 

1323
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,120
Stearns had to say. 
Quote, I do believe we can turn 

1324
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,200
it around, but we have not shown
that yet. 

1325
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,320
No kidding. 
We've got the talent on the 

1326
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,480
roster and the character on the 
roster to make a run. 

1327
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:35,400
We'll get back to that in a 
minute. 

1328
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,320
There's a lot of season left. 
That's true. 

1329
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,000
I'm not going to say it's early.
That's true. 

1330
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,800
It's not We're we're quarter 
into the season true. 

1331
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:49,240
It's not early anymore, true, 
But we have enough season left 

1332
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:50,120
to make a run. 
True. 

1333
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,960
I I would agree with that. 
And I think we've got the talent

1334
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:58,560
and the character to do that. 
Where's the evidence of that? 

1335
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,000
You got the talent and the 
character. 

1336
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:01,000
What are you talking about? 
Yeah. 

1337
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:04,120
I mean, I mean, you basically 
have to say that because you're 

1338
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:07,280
the one who just blew up the 
team and and built it back up. 

1339
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,680
I mean, so no general manager 
who is responsible for this 

1340
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:14,240
overall is going to say we suck 
and we're going nowhere and it's

1341
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,040
on me. 
I mean, obviously. 

1342
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:19,280
So do they have the talent? 
No, I don't think that they have

1343
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,280
the talent to go on a run here. 
Now. 

1344
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:24,400
I, I would like to know what his
definition of a run would be. 

1345
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,520
Are you talking about like, you 
know, I, I don't think it's a 

1346
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:31,480
lock that the Mets just win 76 
games and, and bleed out and, 

1347
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:35,600
and trade, you know, Peralta and
trade Bichette and just, you 

1348
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:39,120
know, do a fire sale. 
Then you see, you know, Clifford

1349
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,000
up at first base and, and 
obviously Benjen Ewing. 

1350
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:43,360
Hopefully those guys are there 
to stay. 

1351
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:46,600
Like, I'm not saying you're 
going to see that, but where is 

1352
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:48,200
the evidence that they've got 
enough talent? 

1353
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,040
And where I think the better 
question is where the hell is 

1354
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:52,600
the evidence? 
They've got the character? 

1355
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:54,520
Where is the character of this 
team? 

1356
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,440
First of all, you know, it's 
been, you know, 40 ish games, 

1357
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,560
whatever it's been. 
So I think it's a little bit too

1358
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,160
early to determine if the 
character is really good or 

1359
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:06,680
really bad, you know, and attach
a, a level of of definitiveness 

1360
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:08,760
to it, if you will. 
I'm not even going to do that. 

1361
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:13,240
I I surmise that the characters 
not where it needs to be. 

1362
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:17,280
I surmise that the talent, I 
strongly surmise that the talent

1363
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,440
is nowhere near where it needs 
to be. 

1364
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:23,240
I mean, but I don't know. 
I mean, listen, I will say you 

1365
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,040
can get me off. 
You can get Sterns off there. 

1366
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:28,480
I I think that, and I said this 
at the top of the show there. 

1367
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:33,240
I think that the more, and I 
never thought this about 

1368
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:37,640
Stearns, I really never thought 
this, but yesterday it really 

1369
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:40,280
hit me. 
You got to drop the arrogant act

1370
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,360
here, man. 
It's just it's it's it's very 

1371
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,040
unbecoming. 
It doesn't fit you and you have 

1372
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:49,040
not earned the run. 
David Stearns does not earn the 

1373
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,040
right to walk around with an 
attitude that he's starting to 

1374
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,720
walk around with. 
I, I just, I don't, I don't see 

1375
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,440
it, man. 
I there's a time, you know, 

1376
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:58,400
remember the old show? 
What was it? 

1377
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,160
Let's make a deal. 
Door 1, door 2, door three. 

1378
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,080
I would go with door one, which 
is the humble route. 

1379
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,400
You know, just be humble, man. 
Now you do acknowledge that 

1380
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,880
there's it has not been good 
enough and I respect that. 

1381
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,480
I mean, jeez, I mean, that's a 
starting off point. 

1382
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,880
If you couldn't admit that, then
we have bigger issues than, you 

1383
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,439
know, that then then we think 
here. 

1384
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:20,920
But this guy's leaning on the 
talent of the team and he's 

1385
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:22,520
leaning on the character of the 
team. 

1386
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:26,040
I mean, last year's team didn't 
have any character and that's 

1387
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,359
why it's been disbanded and they
didn't have enough talent. 

1388
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,680
This year's team is worse. 
So I'm not really sure how you 

1389
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:33,439
sitting here saying that there's
enough talent and enough 

1390
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:36,319
character. 
I, I, I just, I, I don't see it.

1391
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:40,520
But he is going to dig his own 
grave further because many 

1392
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,200
people, I don't know where Evan 
stands on Sterns. 

1393
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:47,279
I know he's obviously disgusted,
but I, I can't imagine he's been

1394
01:08:47,279 --> 01:08:52,680
quite as as definitive or as 
pointed as says Joe has his 

1395
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,840
former partner. 
I mean, Joe said this day one, 

1396
01:08:55,279 --> 01:08:58,200
you know, the, the Ivy geek, 
which which I thought was 

1397
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,080
unfair. 
I mean, there's a lot of 

1398
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,880
brilliant baseball people. 
Not that I love the the 

1399
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:08,319
overwhelming infiltration of 
numbers and implementation of of

1400
01:09:08,319 --> 01:09:11,720
numbers into the game and and 
many of these, you know, or or 

1401
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,240
IV educated, then God bless you 
if you're smart enough to go to 

1402
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:15,640
an Ivy school. 
They would have laughed at me. 

1403
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,800
I mean, I wouldn't even that 
wouldn't even they wouldn't they

1404
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:21,319
would have taken my $100, you 
know, whatever for the you know,

1405
01:09:21,319 --> 01:09:23,680
the application fee and then 
ripped it up and let they would 

1406
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,080
have used it. 
This toilet paper. 

1407
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:29,279
Will you kid me? 
I mean, God, Hey, Hey, Jay, so 

1408
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:31,560
you're a Syracuse guy, right, J 
Rod. 

1409
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,279
Now, what other schools did you 
apply to? 

1410
01:09:34,279 --> 01:09:35,680
Just out of curiosity? 
I don't know if I. 

1411
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,640
UVM. 
Yeah, what's that? 

1412
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,319
University of Vermont. 
Oh, OK. 

1413
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,040
Oh, that's a fun school. 
Yeah, it's a good. 

1414
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,279
I like the, I like, I mean, 
Syracuse was my top choice. 

1415
01:09:47,279 --> 01:09:48,760
Like I applied early decision 
there. 

1416
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:50,720
So when I got in, I was kind of 
locked in. 

1417
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,200
OK the catamounts though uvm 
good stuff. 

1418
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:58,280
UVM Delaware. 
George Washington kind of like 

1419
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,800
the basic. 
I don't know how to describe it 

1420
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:04,640
like the basic. 
Cut below Ivy N exactly 

1421
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:08,560
Northeast schools like. 
A lot of those but none, no, no 

1422
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,320
smaller schools and no massive 
ones. 

1423
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,800
Like I guess I applied to Penn 
State but I was never going to 

1424
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:17,600
go there or like in Indiana I 
don't believe I applied to. 

1425
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:22,160
So it was a lot of like 
northeast eastern sports ish 

1426
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:23,760
schools like. 
Got it, got it. 

1427
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,160
All right, so let me get those. 
So you got hold on Delaware, 

1428
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:29,040
Vermont, Obviously you went to 
QS Delaware, Vermont. 

1429
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,520
The GW, my one of my best 
friends with the GW played 

1430
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:33,560
baseball there. 
Good school. 

1431
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,240
Fun dude, I liked it down there 
A. 

1432
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,440
Lot dude, I had I I can't get 
into the detail. 

1433
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,000
I had one of the wildest 
weekends I've ever had in my 

1434
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:41,920
life when I went down to visit 
him at GW. 

1435
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,600
That's so funny. 
I remember I got there first of 

1436
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,800
all, this knucklehead is my best
man at my wedding, right? 

1437
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:50,120
Went to high school with him. 
Absolute lunatic. 

1438
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:55,200
And now I was, so I'm up at 
Maris and it was during the fall

1439
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:58,160
and I'm doing my fall season and
he's doing his fall season, the 

1440
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:01,480
GW then the fall season's over. 
We both had a free weekend maybe

1441
01:11:01,480 --> 01:11:05,360
before Thanksgiving. 
So I, I, I mean, I, I did have a

1442
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:06,840
car at that point, but I was 
going to drive. 

1443
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,000
So, you know, I need a dad 
because I didn't have a didn't 

1444
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:10,680
have a pot to piss in 
financially. 

1445
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,760
I needed my dad to, you know, 
get me an airline, right. 

1446
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,760
So first of all, this 
knucklehead sends me to the 

1447
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,360
wrong airport there. 
There's two airports in in the 

1448
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,040
DC area. 
He sends me to the wrong one, 

1449
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,280
the wrong 1. 
And I remember I'm like, Are you

1450
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,520
sure this is it? 
Whether Dulles and then the 

1451
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:28,600
other one, whatever the other 
I'm forgot, but sends me to the 

1452
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,200
wrong one. 
I out and I'm like, all right, 

1453
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:33,000
can you take me to blah? 
You know, someone because he 

1454
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,400
lived off campus so and so near 
George Washington University. 

1455
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:36,840
The guy's like George 
Washington. 

1456
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:38,200
It's like an hour and 10 minutes
away. 

1457
01:11:38,440 --> 01:11:41,080
I'm like, what? 
So that was like 100 bucks, 

1458
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:45,120
which I barely had as well. 
Anyway, I get there and it was 

1459
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:48,720
like an early flight and this is
how this is it. 

1460
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:52,240
When I I and I always had that 
be we we had we had so much fun 

1461
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:53,640
together. 
But this one, I knew it was 

1462
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:55,320
going to be an off the charts 
while weekend. 

1463
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:59,320
He left the key to his apartment
with the concierge, right. 

1464
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:03,320
And there was a note on on the 
on the on the table. 

1465
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:07,480
And he's like, he's like, yeah, 
I'll be home at like noon, Like 

1466
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:13,480
he was still out from the night 
before I got home. 

1467
01:12:13,480 --> 01:12:15,120
Yet. 
We had fun, man. 

1468
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,160
So GW was great. 
Never hung out of Delaware. 

1469
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:21,920
I know it's a lot of fun. 
I've got some friends that went 

1470
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:23,680
there. 
Good academic school. 

1471
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,240
Good, good. 
Just good school. 

1472
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,240
Flacco went there. 
It's a good it's. 

1473
01:12:28,480 --> 01:12:31,120
The campus is beautiful. 
I've heard, I've heard, and 

1474
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:32,560
then. 
But how's the Vermont campus 

1475
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:36,120
compared to Delaware? 
I mean, it's certainly not as 

1476
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,000
beautiful because it's more 
woodland similar size. 

1477
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:42,520
It's pretty big. 
I mean, I I liked it up up there

1478
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,400
a lot. 
It was just like beautiful kind 

1479
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,600
of woodland area. 
Burlington itself is like it's 

1480
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,680
like a pretty nice ish town. 
I think it's nicer than 

1481
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:54,920
Syracuse, certainly smaller, but
it's got a cute little vibe to 

1482
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:56,920
it I guess. 
Yeah, good little basketball 

1483
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:57,840
team too. 
Who's that? 

1484
01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,720
Who's that dude? 
Who's that, David? 

1485
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:01,440
Roddy. 
No, no, before. 

1486
01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:06,840
And the white guy for Vermont, 
you going back 15 like he was 

1487
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:08,040
really? 
I know you're talking about. 

1488
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:12,440
Good, man, Really good. 
I mean, they may be wait, they 

1489
01:13:12,440 --> 01:13:13,960
may be in Syracuse and they 
haven't. 

1490
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,760
They're, I mean, oh, back in the
day, Gus. 

1491
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,120
No, not Gus. 
Y'all, if you say it, I'll know 

1492
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:22,680
it. 
Anthony Lamb, Taylor Koppenrath.

1493
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:24,440
Koppenrath. 
There you go. 

1494
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,040
He was good. 
Now what year was that? 

1495
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:32,720
2005 Yup, his number 22 jerseys 
retired and he led UVM to their 

1496
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,680
first tournament win. 
Against Was it against Syracuse?

1497
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:37,560
Let's see. 
I thought they beat Syracuse, 

1498
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,280
like in A-125 matchup. 
He was awesome. 

1499
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:43,840
Tyler Koppenrath was great. 
He was great. 

1500
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,600
I remember watching them on TV 
quite a bit. 

1501
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,200
Good little Gym. 
Yeah. 

1502
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:52,040
Wow, I actually played against 
Vermont when I was at Maris. 

1503
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:55,040
Syracuse in OG there you. 
Go. 

1504
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:57,280
That's much. 
I remember playing against 

1505
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,760
Vermont when when I was at Maris
and then they dropped the 

1506
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:01,120
baseball team like Providence 
did. 

1507
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,120
Title 9 had to spread the money 
around. 

1508
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,560
They lost their program. 
See the thing and we'll get back

1509
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:07,160
to the show. 
I remember I just applied to 

1510
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,760
basically all these schools. 
I mean, I was going to apply to 

1511
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,240
like what what schools were 
looking at me obviously for 

1512
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,560
baseball and back. 
I guess you could still do it 

1513
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:19,120
now, but the baseball coaches 
would just waive the the fee, 

1514
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:22,200
the application fee. 
So I think back then it was 100 

1515
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:23,880
or whatever it was. 
They would just waive it. 

1516
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:25,640
No way. 
It was 100 because I feel like 

1517
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,520
it was 30 bucks for my age. 
No, no, it was a much more than 

1518
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,880
30. 
But no, no, not that I ever 

1519
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:32,160
really paid it, but they would 
waive it. 

1520
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:34,040
So I would just apply to all 
these schools even if they 

1521
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,000
didn't, because listen, the way 
the recruiting goes is even if 

1522
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,560
they don't really want you, you 
know, they, they, they, you 

1523
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:41,600
know, they're going to. 
So I was applying to some of 

1524
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:45,080
these big schools like rejected,
rejected, rejected, rejected, 

1525
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:49,200
rejected next. 
Oh man, is the Yankee line up 

1526
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:50,600
up. 
Let me see if I can pop this on.

1527
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,120
I'll find it. 
I'll probably find this pretty 

1528
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:53,080
quick. 
Well, I mean it's got to be up 

1529
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:54,360
now. 
It's eleven O 5 here. 

1530
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,840
Let's see here go to the old 
twitsky a little Twitter go to 

1531
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:00,760
the old Yankees. 
Oh, here we go. 

1532
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:02,240
All right, not first thing that 
popped up. 

1533
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,200
Grisham Rice, Judge Belly, Jazz 
McMahon. 

1534
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,440
Well, McMahon moving up in in 
the line up Spencer Jones in 

1535
01:15:08,440 --> 01:15:11,920
right field. 
OK, interesting there, Booney. 

1536
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,240
Then we got Jaycee Ascar. 
Thank God Wells is not playing. 

1537
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:19,960
Max Freed, Volpe 8, so Grisham 
one in center, Ben Rice 2 at 

1538
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,080
first. 
Judge DH and get him off his 

1539
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:22,720
feet. 
Good. 

1540
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:24,320
Getting ready for that Mets 
series. 

1541
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,840
Third batting, batting third DH.
Bellinger left field, batting 

1542
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:31,480
4th, Jazz in the five spot back 
at second base, McMahon 6th, 

1543
01:15:31,480 --> 01:15:35,920
third base, Jones 7 right field,
Volpe 8 short and Ascara behind 

1544
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:37,640
the plate. 
Max Freed on the bump there. 

1545
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:42,160
So, you know, it's, you know, 
some of the numbers where I, I 

1546
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,640
have them written down. 
I didn't want to just, I didn't 

1547
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,880
want to just bombard them with 
just trust me. 

1548
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:51,360
If anybody knows how bad the 
numbers are with Jazz, boom 

1549
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,360
knows I'm going to geek out for 
a second. 

1550
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,720
It's not going to be long. 
But here's three things you know

1551
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:57,240
about you need to know about 
Jazz right now. 

1552
01:15:58,440 --> 01:16:03,480
His barrel rate right now, his 
barrel rate is 5%, which is in 

1553
01:16:03,480 --> 01:16:05,880
the 31st percentile in baseball.
Awful. 

1554
01:16:06,440 --> 01:16:10,160
His weighted on base average is 
in the five percentile in Major 

1555
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:14,080
League Baseball and is expected 
slugging percentage in is in the

1556
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:17,720
11 percentile. 
The 11 percentile. 

1557
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:22,440
Man, I'm telling you and listen,
they are not going to run him 

1558
01:16:22,440 --> 01:16:26,040
out there If they if they have a
more viable option and I don't I

1559
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,320
don't know that they will. 
You know, I really don't know 

1560
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:29,880
what to expect from Anthony 
Volpe. 

1561
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,280
I I'm happy he's back, man. 
I'm a Volpe. 

1562
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:37,160
I'm a Volpe fan and you know, I 
listen, Sal would always get on 

1563
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:38,160
me with this. 
I would always. 

1564
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:42,080
I just have a soft spot for 
local kids going back to Mark 

1565
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:46,080
Jackson, you name it. 
I mean, I just to me, it's, you 

1566
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:50,240
know, if you're a local kid and 
we went to high school 15 miles 

1567
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:51,520
from where I'm sitting right 
now. 

1568
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:55,080
We grew up a Yankee fan, first 
round pick, shortstop Bill 

1569
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:56,120
Barton. 
Come on. 

1570
01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:01,320
And no, played with like wit and
all those guys, Henderson, like 

1571
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,440
Team USA, all those teams 
growing up the ranks, those like

1572
01:17:04,440 --> 01:17:07,280
15 and 16 year old team, junior 
Olympic stuff, whatever. 

1573
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:09,760
He's not playing like a first 
round pick. 

1574
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:13,320
And there comes an expiration 
point like, yeah, like there was

1575
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:16,360
a conversation last year, should
the Yankees send them down? 

1576
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:17,840
Should the Yankees send them 
down to the end? 

1577
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:21,400
I said no, I do not believe 
there's any value with him being

1578
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,160
sent down. 
I just, I didn't believe it 

1579
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,240
then. 
And and and they didn't do it. 

1580
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,880
Now, maybe it's the wrong move. 
Maybe if they would have done 

1581
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:28,960
it, something would have 
clicked. 

1582
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:33,400
I still don't think so because 
until Anthony Volpe goes through

1583
01:17:33,440 --> 01:17:37,360
a complete overhaul of his 
approach and his mechanics where

1584
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,720
he's not chasing loft and you 
know, he's more flat through the

1585
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,760
zone and more to right center 
field and letting the ball get 

1586
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:47,120
deep and getting on base and not
whipping its sliders in the 

1587
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:49,560
dirt. 
So it's all one and then found 

1588
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:50,960
it. 
The fast found the fastball 

1589
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:52,400
letter high cuz it's a little 
bit high. 

1590
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:55,320
You can't get on top of it. 
It's all two and now you're 

1591
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,080
dead. 
When you're O2 in Major League, 

1592
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:58,320
I don't give a shit who you are.
You're dead. 

1593
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,840
It's over. 
Like the, the, the, the drop. 

1594
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,480
If you look at the hitter's 
counts, even one O, there's a 

1595
01:18:04,480 --> 01:18:12,160
real favorable advantage. 
102-0213 O3 one versus O1O212. 

1596
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:16,920
It is a massive disadvantage 
from a hitter's perspective when

1597
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,360
you when you get that hole there
because it just opens up so many

1598
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:23,160
more pitches and the ability to 
expand the zone because you're 

1599
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,280
not going to walk somebody if 
you throw it 7 inches off the 

1600
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:28,040
plate. 
But somebody like Volpe or Wells

1601
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:31,960
or, you know, maybe a Spencer 
Jones or Dominguez, those young 

1602
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:35,160
guys are going to swing at it. 
And, you know, the evidence has 

1603
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,440
not been there that there's 
going to be enough growth for 

1604
01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:40,560
Volpe. 
But I'm I'm to justify him, you 

1605
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:44,960
know, staying around and let's 
face it, you know, if he didn't 

1606
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,680
get hurt still in AAA right now,
that's all there is to it. 

1607
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:51,640
And you know what was both these
numbers collectively here played

1608
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:57,080
nine games in AA and nine games 
in AAA and his average, I 

1609
01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:00,680
believe combined 205 with a 580 
OPS. 

1610
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:03,560
Like it's not like I feel a 
little bit better if he had, you

1611
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,680
know, 5 double S hitting 312, 
eight steals, like just 

1612
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,440
terrorizing minor league. 
But now I know it's his spring 

1613
01:19:09,440 --> 01:19:10,560
training. 
I get that. 

1614
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:14,280
And and I'm sure, I mean, I 
shouldn't say I'm sure, but 

1615
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,800
like, say if the Yankees would 
have sent him to the minors last

1616
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:20,480
year and but he was still fully 
in rhythm and you know, he was 

1617
01:19:20,480 --> 01:19:22,480
playing every day at the big 
league level, just wasn't 

1618
01:19:22,480 --> 01:19:24,640
playing well. 
And then he go to the minors and

1619
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:26,840
there's just not the quality of 
pitching that there is in the 

1620
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:28,800
bigs. 
I'm pretty sure Volpe would have

1621
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:31,680
hit like I I would think, but he
did not hit in the minors. 

1622
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:35,640
So he it wasn't based on merit. 
It was based out of necessity 

1623
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:39,760
and based on circumstances here.
And you know, Caballero's a dog.

1624
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,240
Like you don't you don't care 
about about Volpe. 

1625
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:46,720
He's trying to plant his flag as
a major leaguer, trying to get 

1626
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:51,000
paid instead of being a super 
sub like he was with Tampa and 

1627
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:54,400
like the Yankees had designs on 
him being when they acquired him

1628
01:19:54,440 --> 01:19:56,600
and like he was when he first 
got here. 

1629
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:58,680
You know, a little right? 
Little second, little short, 

1630
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:00,400
little third, bounce around, 
little pinch run. 

1631
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,920
So he's trying to get the bag 
and yeah, I'm not saying he's 

1632
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:07,080
going to get $100 million, but 
you know, if Caballero puts up a

1633
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:10,400
season where he steals, you 
know, I mean, he always steals 

1634
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:13,440
bases, 40 something steals. 
I'm just throwing numbers out. 

1635
01:20:13,440 --> 01:20:19,000
You know, he's got four or five 
home runs now, 1415 home runs, 

1636
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:24,680
hits 265 on base at a much 
higher rate than Volpe and and 

1637
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,800
plays a superior shortstop, 
which he's been great so far 

1638
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:29,960
this year. 
As I said, you know, whenever 

1639
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,120
it's time for, you know, the pre
orb is up and he's going to 

1640
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:34,840
yeah, if he does that for 2-3 
years, you know, you're going to

1641
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:40,440
get, you know, a three-year deal
for, I don't know, 153045 ish, 

1642
01:20:40,440 --> 01:20:43,520
$1,000,000 in in the in at least
in the ballpark. 

1643
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,040
So I don't care about Volpe. 
He didn't care about Bill 

1644
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:47,280
Barton. 
He doesn't care about New 

1645
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:49,120
Jersey. 
He doesn't care about the local 

1646
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:52,680
boy, cares about himself. 
And he did not want to go on the

1647
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:54,760
IL. 
And I know he protested 

1648
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,200
vigorously with Boone. 
I guess Boone said that. 

1649
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,240
I was watching his pregame press
conference last night, the 

1650
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:02,520
dugout in Baltimore, He's like, 
yeah, like, you know, it was not

1651
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:04,080
easy. 
He didn't want to go. 

1652
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,240
And the last thing that he said 
when he was leaving the 

1653
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:10,240
clubhouse last night, he's like 
one day down, 9 days I'm back. 

1654
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,880
Like, this guy is hell bent on 
coming right back. 

1655
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:17,520
And if Volpe doesn't play, well,
it's a very easy decision 

1656
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:20,160
because he did not earn the 
elevation here based on 

1657
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:23,880
performance. 
So if he's, you know, 2O3180 

1658
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,960
couple of strikeouts, if there's
no other injuries, you know, 

1659
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:29,520
knock on wood, Volpe's going 
back down to the minors. 

1660
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:31,800
It just is. 
You'd have to think, no, it's 

1661
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:33,680
certainly not going to play 
every day. 

1662
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:36,560
Like now. 
We are absolutely past the point

1663
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:40,280
of if you don't perform Volpe. 
And it's it's been kind of the 

1664
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:44,560
mantra of the 2026 Yankees. 
Even though Booty said there is 

1665
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:46,320
no more urgency. 
I see it differently. 

1666
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:48,360
You know how I feel. 
I think there is more urgency. 

1667
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,280
We'll see. 
How's the poll doing, by the 

1668
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:53,960
way, Why'd you take it down? 
Oh, I took it down just because,

1669
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:55,800
you know, make sure for the 
content. 

1670
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,440
Come on, it's looking clean when
we when we drop that Stern 

1671
01:21:58,440 --> 01:22:00,760
segment. 
Oh, I got look at you. 

1672
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:05,840
Can you update what do? 
We got here Jazz 67, Volpe 33. 

1673
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,800
You guys would, yeah. 
I mean, listen, Jazz has a 

1674
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:11,520
little more life in the bad. 
I get it, but you know, I'm just

1675
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,640
basically the comments are not 
very hot on Volpe I. 

1676
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,240
Have to No, I know they're not. 
I know. 

1677
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,000
Why would they be? 
I mean, there's no. 

1678
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:19,840
Evidence or there's not enough 
evidence. 

1679
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,000
I get it. 
Listen, there is an expiration 

1680
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,360
point on everything. 
You're always going to get more 

1681
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,480
room, more runway if you're a 
first round pick. 

1682
01:22:27,480 --> 01:22:29,960
Like let let's see if The Jets 
are whomever they draft, you 

1683
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:32,640
know, arch whatever they do with
the draft next year, 2027, 

1684
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,480
whatever quarterback they get, 
you know, in in round one. 

1685
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,960
You know, you'd have to imagine 
they'll do that unless Klubnick 

1686
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:43,560
winds up being the guy, which 
you know, whatever the that 

1687
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,840
evaluation, you know, it's it's 
going like Darnold, you know, 

1688
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:48,520
got, although Darnold didn't get
as much. 

1689
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:51,040
I mean, Zach got a little more 
room, but you get somebody like 

1690
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:54,240
Brady Cook or somebody like Mike
White, you get a couple of games

1691
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,960
and if you know, if you are not 
drafted or barely drafted, 

1692
01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:59,480
you're out. 
Like so many of these decisions,

1693
01:22:59,480 --> 01:23:03,120
you know, and fans don't want to
hear it, but it matters or tied 

1694
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,680
to the economics and the 
investment in terms of draft 

1695
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:07,800
equity and what kind of contract
you have. 

1696
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:11,160
That's just that's life dude. 
It's the way it goes, you know? 

1697
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:18,320
So I cannot shake this cold man.
Crazy. 

1698
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:20,160
You have been fighting that 
thing man. 

1699
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:21,440
Little bit right? 
Get some water. 

1700
01:23:21,440 --> 01:23:26,000
Here, Jay, what else is cooking?
Yeah, What are people saying 

1701
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,200
about Stearns? 
I mean, this guy up there trying

1702
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,400
to recreate the rooms? 
Let me see. 

1703
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:39,520
Let me jump back to the Stearns.
GWGW Well, here's one Alonzo's 

1704
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:41,120
comment about. 
Stearns made. 

1705
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:42,400
My day. 
Great. 

1706
01:23:42,440 --> 01:23:43,440
I mean, it was great. 
Yeah. 

1707
01:23:43,440 --> 01:23:45,200
Willie and Long Beach. 
How about we get somebody? 

1708
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:46,920
Other than Willie and Long 
Beach, I love Willie. 

1709
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:50,240
I love Long Beach too. 
But yeah, there's no doubt about

1710
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:51,720
that. 
That was, yeah. 

1711
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:54,960
Now that was a couple of years 
ago. 

1712
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:58,000
What he said publicly is he's 
bit his tongue and he said the 

1713
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,440
right thing because, you know, 
when the Yankees first played 

1714
01:24:00,440 --> 01:24:03,720
Baltimore S&Y, rightfully so 
goes out there. 

1715
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:04,760
Hey, you know, what do you think
about that? 

1716
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,000
Same thing with Brandon Nimmo 
when the Rangers came to the 

1717
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:08,480
Bronx. 
You got to get those sound 

1718
01:24:08,480 --> 01:24:09,840
bites. 
You got to get those clips. 

1719
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:15,520
But man, I mean, I I would love 
to have heard, you know, Pete in

1720
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:17,360
in real time say what he said 
there. 

1721
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:18,760
How about Avery Summit checking 
in? 

1722
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaking of GM attitudes, when 
will Cashman admit he he aired 

1723
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,000
with his Volpe take in the 
preseason? 

1724
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:30,160
Let's see Oh Oh yeah, in that 
little fight, a little back in 

1725
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,120
fight strong. 
How about contentious exchange 

1726
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:35,320
with John Heyman a couple of 
years back? 

1727
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:38,040
I don't know that he's ever 
going to admit that. 

1728
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:39,840
You know, I really, because 
think about this, he's either 

1729
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:43,160
going to come back now and play 
well and then what he might do 

1730
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:44,600
is take a victory lap at that 
point. 

1731
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,720
If he does play well, that he 
would do right now. 

1732
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:50,560
And if he doesn't play well, 
well, then it's on to the next 

1733
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:52,960
point, as Jay-Z would say. 
And then he just kind of, you 

1734
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:55,120
know, if the Yankees are doing 
well and the Yanks are winning, 

1735
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,640
well then it's a non story and 
you bury it in the side of the 

1736
01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:00,480
corner of the room. 
So no, I would not anticipate 

1737
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:05,600
that that that Brian Cashman 
would would willingly go back to

1738
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:08,200
that. 
Now let's say that the Yankees 

1739
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:10,960
fall short of the World Series 
this year and it's the end of 

1740
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,960
the year press conference, state
of the Yankees, offseason plans,

1741
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:17,280
all that stuff. 
And they hold the that that 

1742
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:18,720
press conference, which they 
always do. 

1743
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:21,400
And when Boone speaks and, you 
know, maybe Hal would say 

1744
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,000
something, you know, Cashman 
wouldn't be able to run and hide

1745
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:25,680
from that. 
That wouldn't be primary. 

1746
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,280
I mean, at this point, Volpe is 
just, yeah, he's the seven or 

1747
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:29,840
eight hitter. 
He's he's a role player. 

1748
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,040
He's not the lead off hitter we 
hoped he would be. 

1749
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,040
He's not a primary part of the 
team. 

1750
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,640
I mean, the Yankees have, you 
know, the best record in the 

1751
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:39,920
American League in a + 72 run 
differential, which is second 

1752
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:41,280
best in baseball behind the 
Braves. 

1753
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,200
And Volpe hasn't seen one pitch.
So it's not like they can't 

1754
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:47,120
function without Volpe. 
But yeah, that would come up at 

1755
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:50,320
some point. 
And I would be curious, but he 

1756
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:53,320
is stubborn. 
He, Brian Cashman is stubborn as

1757
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:54,920
a mule. 
He is. 

1758
01:25:55,440 --> 01:25:57,960
And you know the crazy thing 
about Cashman? 

1759
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:01,680
And I would really, I would, I'd
really love to get Brian on the 

1760
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,120
show. 
I, I, I don't know that he would

1761
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,320
come on the show. 
I don't know. 

1762
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:14,360
I've talked to Brian probably, 
let's see, I think 3 times I've 

1763
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:17,160
interviewed him once back in the
day, once back on the day, once 

1764
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:20,000
back in the day on 1050 years 
ago. 

1765
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:23,000
I think it was all over him for 
the that was contentious. 

1766
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:24,520
I think they were all 
contentious. 

1767
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:28,240
Let's see. 
Then I had him on, I believe 

1768
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:31,760
once with Tiki and then once 
with Sal on the fan. 

1769
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,800
Oh, yeah, no, we definitely had 
him on the fan at least once. 

1770
01:26:35,480 --> 01:26:38,480
And if it was only once on the 
fan, then it was twice a 1050. 

1771
01:26:38,480 --> 01:26:40,240
But no, I definitely interviewed
him. 

1772
01:26:40,440 --> 01:26:42,880
And you got to watch him 
because, you know, listen, if 

1773
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,360
anybody knows about rambling and
turning a short story into a 

1774
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:46,960
long one, it's it's me. 
I, I get that. 

1775
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:49,160
I own that. 
But I mean, Cashman could just 

1776
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,240
go on. 
You ask him a you got to be 

1777
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:54,200
quick, You got to listen. 
Like the thing about Cash is 

1778
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:57,520
when you have them and you ask 
him the question, you know, you 

1779
01:26:57,520 --> 01:26:59,080
get a little filibuster going on
here. 

1780
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:00,800
Let's let's make sure, let's not
deviate. 

1781
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,560
Let's go, let's let's go. 
All right, Cash, all do, Brian. 

1782
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:05,880
I don't mean, I don't mean to 
interrupt there, Brian, all due 

1783
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:07,560
respect. 
And you got to get it back on 

1784
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,640
the road. 
Otherwise this guy's hijacking 

1785
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:10,640
it. 
Like he could go on. 

1786
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:14,200
Brian Cashman could give you a 2
1/2 minute answer and it could 

1787
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:17,800
sometimes be a non answer. 
But funny, I actually do like 

1788
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:20,080
the guy and I do respect him. 
I do. 

1789
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,680
I absolutely respect Brian 
Cashman's career. 

1790
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:25,640
And you know, Boone was saying 
he's great at the end. 

1791
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:27,600
No, he's not. 
He's not great, but he's had a, 

1792
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:30,480
he's not great now and he's not 
been great for a while. 

1793
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:35,120
With all due respect to Boone 
and Cash, but he's had a great 

1794
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:37,000
career because he's in the Hall.
He's going to be in the Hall of 

1795
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:38,920
Fame. 
He's a Hall of Fame executive. 

1796
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:42,200
That to me is undeniable. 
Yankee fans flinch when I say 

1797
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:43,640
that. 
Yankee fans protest. 

1798
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:45,080
Yankee fans roll their eyes 
tough. 

1799
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,640
I mean, if you do that, if you 
can't acknowledge that all the 

1800
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:52,080
years now Watson and and stick 
Michael built the first part of 

1801
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:57,200
the dynasty, obviously, and then
but you know, Cashman has has 

1802
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,640
distinguished himself the the 
fight that the last two 

1803
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:02,880
championships after that and 
then obviously O 9 and even 

1804
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:05,120
getting to the World Series in 
O3 and getting to the World 

1805
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:07,920
Series in 2024. 
You know, I'm not here to defend

1806
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:09,160
the guy. 
I mean, if anything, I've got 

1807
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:11,680
I've got more issues with him 
that I've got more good things 

1808
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,480
to say, but man, I would love to
get him on the show. 

1809
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:16,520
I don't know. 
I don't know if he thinks is he 

1810
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:18,800
beneath coming on a YouTube 
show? 

1811
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:23,640
I don't know no one. 
Just come off, Listen, no, I 

1812
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:25,800
feel like most and most people. 
Aren't like. 

1813
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,760
That anymore because a YouTube 
show to me is like kind of like 

1814
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:31,800
a higher thing than most other 
programs now. 

1815
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:33,960
Oh, I agree with that. 
No, and certainly in terms of 

1816
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:37,600
reach and all that other. 
Stuff, yeah, but I I don't know.

1817
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,200
I'm trying to remember the last 
time we had them on. 

1818
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:45,120
It was it was we we get after it
a little bit there, a little bit

1819
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:47,440
back and forth, But that's 
that's another good thing about 

1820
01:28:47,440 --> 01:28:49,400
cash. 
But like he'll let you go like 

1821
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:52,520
he might internalize it and like
personalize it like when he 

1822
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:54,720
walks away like this 
motherfucker, I can't stand this

1823
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:55,760
guy. 
Like, why did I do that? 

1824
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:57,360
I'm sure there's a little bit of
that. 

1825
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:00,600
But he does let you, you know, 
jab and he'll spar with you and 

1826
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:04,840
I've always appreciated that. 
I really, I really phook your 

1827
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:07,680
couch. 
Sterns doesn't have any answers 

1828
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:09,080
right now. 
And going to be in front of the 

1829
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:11,200
cameras is and going in front of
the cameras is death. 

1830
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:13,920
Well, don't sign up for the job.
You know what New York's all 

1831
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:14,880
about? 
You win. 

1832
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:16,560
Those cameras are great. 
You lose. 

1833
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:18,560
Those cameras are a death trap 
is what it is. 

1834
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:20,440
We all know the deal. 
We all know the score. 

1835
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:24,640
What do we got here? 
The match, The Mets, The Mets. 

1836
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:26,280
The Mets. 
The Mets. 

1837
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:27,840
The Mets. 
Will win two games against. 

1838
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,400
The Yankees, good luck. 
I mean, listen, I'm not going to

1839
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:31,880
sit here and say, no, they 
won't. 

1840
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:35,640
I mean, it's baseball, Susan. 
I I mean, they very well could. 

1841
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:38,800
I mean, if you told me that this
is the heart, the start of a 

1842
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:42,920
little, you know, energetic 
streak here for the Mets seas to

1843
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:46,440
get their act together a little 
bit, I'm not going to shut the 

1844
01:29:46,440 --> 01:29:48,680
door on that possibility. 
I mean, there was a reason why I

1845
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:50,560
thought the Mets would win 91 
games. 

1846
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:52,880
I, you know, I wasn't sitting 
here saying the Mets were going 

1847
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:56,280
to be, you know, trash, some 
wretched outfit, some comedy 

1848
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:58,440
show of errors. 
You know, I didn't think they'd 

1849
01:29:58,440 --> 01:29:59,760
be great. 
I didn't think they'd win the 

1850
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:01,680
division, but I thought they'd 
be a playoff team. 

1851
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:04,240
Let me just see if this would 
even come up here. 

1852
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:08,760
See if I can get an advanced 
look at the Yankee Met pitching 

1853
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:11,200
matchups here. 
Let me see if I can get this. 

1854
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:13,800
I should be able to. 
I've done it before. 

1855
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:14,560
All right. 
Now I got it. 

1856
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:20,080
All right, so where we at here? 
Why is that not OK? 

1857
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:20,720
I got it. 
All right. 

1858
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:22,200
So obviously Fried's going 
today. 

1859
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:23,480
Schlittler. 
I mean, how about that? 

1860
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:25,440
I mean, and then think about 
when Cole comes back. 

1861
01:30:25,440 --> 01:30:28,120
Fried, Schlittler, Cole, bang, 
boom, boom. 

1862
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,840
Chew on that. 
Fried and Schlittler. 

1863
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:34,760
So we got free today, 1:05 first
pitch. 

1864
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:37,680
Then we've got Slitler. 
Yeah, that is going to be 

1865
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:40,160
filthy. 
That is going to be awesome, 

1866
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:43,520
man. 
Friday night we got Roldan. 

1867
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:44,800
Yeah, yeah. 
And we got. 

1868
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:48,200
Roldan. 
You know, I like Roldan, I love 

1869
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:50,400
him, but I like him a little bit
more than some of you guys do. 

1870
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:53,280
I mean, you show him no respect.
The guy's a competent, above 

1871
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:55,800
average Major League pitcher and
he doesn't have to be the ace 

1872
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:58,440
and he doesn't have to be the 
number two or the three. 

1873
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:00,680
He's fine. 
That's how he's got six years to

1874
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:04,520
go on the deal. 
So easy with the Rodon hate, but

1875
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:06,520
freed today. 
Love to see the Yankees win this

1876
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:08,480
one man. 
How about Judgey a little three 

1877
01:31:08,480 --> 01:31:10,560
run bomb. 
How about Volpe a little, you 

1878
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,640
know, couple and here we go 
couple of the singles, couple of

1879
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:16,120
the steals, you know, maybe 
Benny ball game, but two run 

1880
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:19,960
gapper, you know, we got we got 
freed now let's have him go 7 to

1881
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:22,600
the 3rd 8 strikeouts, one walk, 
four hits. 

1882
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,280
Yankees win 7 to 1. 
Nice tidy win. 

1883
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:28,040
No high leverage relief pitchers
necessary. 

1884
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:31,640
Easy lifting before the day off 
Roll into Queens. 

1885
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:36,440
Schlittler rolled on Weathers. 
Yeah. 

1886
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:39,000
And then how about Weathers 
against Soto? 

1887
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:42,320
I mean, Soto's great, but 
Weathers is an uncomfortable at 

1888
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:43,880
Batman. 
That dude is just. 

1889
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:45,520
I would. 
I would, I would not really want

1890
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:47,600
to. 
I don't know what he's going to 

1891
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:49,520
do with the rotation. 
I mean, I asked him. 

1892
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:52,640
Everybody wants to know. 
It's still to be determined 

1893
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:54,840
because Cole's not yet back. 
So I get it. 

1894
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:56,560
You don't need the immediate 
answer. 

1895
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:03,000
If I'm them and nothing, nothing
changes negatively and they've 

1896
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:05,600
got to make a decision, which 
they have to eventually. 

1897
01:32:06,480 --> 01:32:09,120
I go back and forth. 
I, I do vacillate on this 

1898
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:14,400
because I, I look at Will Warren
as a staple of the Yankee 

1899
01:32:14,480 --> 01:32:18,320
rotation for, I don't know, 5-6,
seven years. 

1900
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:21,200
He's young, he's good. 
And then I watch Weathers pitch 

1901
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:23,360
and I'm like, the guy sometimes 
is untouchable. 

1902
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:27,120
So, you know, and he's a lefty 
and he throws gas and he's got 

1903
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:29,720
that, that weird why the where 
he conceals the ball. 

1904
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:33,120
Very athletic delivery. 
So I I mean, good luck to that 

1905
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:34,800
man. 
It it's going to be it's going 

1906
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,320
to be a tough choice. 
And I don't know what they're 

1907
01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:38,440
going to do. 
I really don't. 

1908
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:40,560
All right, we get some calls 
here. 

1909
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:43,600
I was at 11/20 shows flying. 
We started early today. 

1910
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:46,280
So let's get a couple of calls, 
get a couple of more chats. 

1911
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:47,760
Who's first up today, Jay, what 
do you got? 

1912
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:50,440
Got our friend Benji from Upper 
East Side. 

1913
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:52,400
Benji, I hope. 
I hope Now I don't really know. 

1914
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:54,120
I don't know if. 
Benji is a Yankee or a Met guy. 

1915
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:56,080
I know he's a big Nick guy. 
Benji, what's going on, bud? 

1916
01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:59,800
What's up BT? 
Hey, yeah, sorry. 

1917
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:01,200
I couldn't call in the last 
couple days. 

1918
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:05,000
I I I've been this has been an 
insane week of of scouting and 

1919
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:09,600
rest for the next scouting. 
OK, coach Believe. 

1920
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:11,640
Me, I'm scouting. 
As far as the Yankees go, I'm 

1921
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:13,800
actually a huge. 
Yankees fan Nothing touches the 

1922
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:16,360
Knicks for me. 
Obviously, they're my heroes, 

1923
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:19,880
but when I was a younger kid, I 
used to do birthday parties in 

1924
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:21,920
the Yankees box. 
So I used to have a bunch of 

1925
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:24,360
friends. 
We'd rent out my family. 

1926
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:26,920
My father would rent out the box
in the metal hall. 

1927
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:28,520
Jesse Barfield days. 
Yeah. 

1928
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:30,480
How much? 
I mean, so this guy growing up 

1929
01:33:30,480 --> 01:33:33,960
the right way we would. 
Go to Burger King and do pin the

1930
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:36,120
tail on the donkey. 
This guy sitting in the Yankee 

1931
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:42,080
suite with ten of his buddies. 
Lucky you, I was in a 8 year old

1932
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:44,360
kid but. 
And I remember how bad we were 

1933
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:47,280
back in the day. 
Oh, so you talk in late 80s? 

1934
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:50,080
You talk in Barfield. 
Mel Holes, you said Stump 

1935
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:52,800
Merrill, right? 
Andy Hawkins. 

1936
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:55,080
Actually. 
Actually, it's funny because. 

1937
01:33:55,160 --> 01:34:00,040
I referred to not not exactly a 
family member of mine, but there

1938
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:05,560
was sort of a related a related 
person in a family event and and

1939
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:08,040
I and I said to them as a young 
kid, I said, you look like Stump

1940
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:10,240
Merrill. 
They're a little bit offended by

1941
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:11,800
that. 
I mean had no neck, man. 

1942
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:13,040
I mean, I can understand why it 
looked. 

1943
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:16,120
It kind of looked like Shrek, 
you know, like, you know, like 

1944
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:19,520
that big, thick neck and stump 
was a baseball life for all. 

1945
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:21,320
Respect. 
All right, So what do you think 

1946
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:23,560
about the Boone spot? 
What'd you take away from what 

1947
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:26,320
Aaron said? 
I loved it, I think. 

1948
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:28,480
I think Aaron's. 
Personality really comes 

1949
01:34:28,480 --> 01:34:30,920
through. 
He's a really relatable, down to

1950
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:33,160
earth person. 
He's there's no pretentious 

1951
01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:36,920
aspect to him whatsoever. 
I think those types of people 

1952
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:40,280
are super refreshing. 
You know, obviously when you ask

1953
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:43,480
him .2 questions, it's difficult
for him to say, oh, this guy's 

1954
01:34:43,480 --> 01:34:46,800
better than this guy, of course,
but but, but, but I think, yeah,

1955
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:48,760
I think a phenomenal. 
Job by both you. 

1956
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:52,160
I think we have to be thrilled 
with whether the Yankees are out

1957
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:55,200
of 27 and 16. 
They've had a couple minor 

1958
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:57,280
losing streaks. 
I think one of six games, one of

1959
01:34:57,280 --> 01:35:00,040
four games, I think it was 5. 
I think they lost five straight 

1960
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:02,240
at that point. 
I thought it was 5. 

1961
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:05,480
Either way, no, no worries. 
But but yeah, I mean, they're 

1962
01:35:05,480 --> 01:35:06,160
the. 
Pitching. 

1963
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:09,200
The pitching has been very a big
pleasant surprise with Will 

1964
01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:13,160
Warren's got a 1.16 WHIP. 
Schlittler's been, you know, one

1965
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:15,640
of the the best, if not the 
second best pitcher in the 

1966
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:18,560
American League so far. 
We don't even have coal. 

1967
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:20,240
We know Rodon is good. 
With a. 

1968
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:24,760
Caveat is he's my biggest issue 
with Rodon is that he has those 

1969
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:27,680
games where he he kind of 
unwinds, where you'll see him, 

1970
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:32,360
where he'll be like he can't get
it out and it's 66 hitters in 

1971
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:34,080
and the guy's drenched. 
In sweat. 

1972
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:37,120
And it's been 30 minutes and he 
can't get it out. 

1973
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:38,480
And you're just like, oh. 
My God. 

1974
01:35:38,480 --> 01:35:41,840
Well, but then listen. 
That's why he is not an ace and.

1975
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:44,200
Even though the Yankees kind of 
paid him, you know, that big 

1976
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:47,600
money to to got to to be the Co 
ace with Gerrard Cole, you know,

1977
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:49,520
you don't need him to be that 
guy. 

1978
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:52,960
I mean, if listen, he's not 
going to be the 5th starter, but

1979
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:56,160
he's the what? 
Once there is the, you know, the

1980
01:35:56,160 --> 01:36:00,400
return of Cole and then whatever
recalibration of the starting 

1981
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:03,760
rotation they wind up doing. 
I mean, Carlos Rodan's going to 

1982
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:06,360
be going up against a lot of 
fours and fives from other teams

1983
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:08,320
and they don't have somebody 
like Carlos Rodan. 

1984
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:12,400
I mean, very few teams do the 
back of the rotation. 

1985
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:16,280
That's a great point. 
I I think as far as the. 

1986
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:19,680
The bullpen goes my my favorite,
my honestly my favorite league 

1987
01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:21,000
pitcher. 
And this goes for last year. 

1988
01:36:21,000 --> 01:36:22,320
Fernando Cruz. 
I love him. 

1989
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:24,640
I've always said that. 
I love his fire. 

1990
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:26,520
Yes. 
Obviously he loses control at 

1991
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:28,520
times. 
Walks a couple guys, he has a 

1992
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:31,240
blip here and there, but but 
overall he can be unhittable. 

1993
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:36,120
He he and and Tim Hill has been 
absolutely mesmerizing so far. 

1994
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:39,280
He's got a 1 ERAI got to tell 
you man and and Benji, let me 

1995
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:40,400
get bouncing here. 
We'll talk. 

1996
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:43,320
Nick's obviously have fun 
watching the Cavs or the Pistons

1997
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:45,160
doing that scouting. 
Good job on that, coach. 

1998
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:46,600
I appreciate it. 
We'll talk to you soon. 

1999
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:48,080
Thanks, man. 
You got it, buddy. 

2000
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:50,760
So Tim Hill, I I don't know if I
I don't know if I said this on 

2001
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:54,120
the air the other day, he comes 
in and my son's like, God, Tim 

2002
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:58,560
Hill. 
See, I'm like, dude, you got to 

2003
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:00,040
put some respect on this guy's 
name. 

2004
01:37:00,480 --> 01:37:04,080
I understand he doesn't look the
part like he's not, you know, 

2005
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:08,880
some big flame throwing. 
You know, stop clowning Tim 

2006
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:10,120
Hill. 
Like I'm saying to myself, you 

2007
01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:13,320
only wish that you could at some
point get to what Tim Hill's 

2008
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:16,640
doing in the majors. 
Tim Hill is a Yankee, has been 

2009
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:19,280
phenomenal. 
He has been absolutely 

2010
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:21,680
phenomenal, man. 
He knows his role. 

2011
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:24,680
He's incredibly reliable. 
I just want to look something 

2012
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:26,760
up. 
And so there will be no 

2013
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:28,920
including in my house. 
There will be no Tim Hill 

2014
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:30,880
slander. 
I'm not here for it. 

2015
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:35,800
I mean, come on already. 
I mean, Jace, he just, he 

2016
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:40,520
doesn't elicit the most 
confidence, you know, And the 

2017
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:42,080
thing about as I'm looking 
something up, the thing about 

2018
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:44,600
Fernando Cruz, who I've always 
likes, I do love his energy. 

2019
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:48,360
But when you are a splitty, when
you're a splitty guy, you know, 

2020
01:37:48,480 --> 01:37:51,280
the feels got to be there. 
And if the feels not there from 

2021
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:55,880
the outset, you're going to have
issues, which is why I really, 

2022
01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:57,360
you know, and they don't do it a
ton. 

2023
01:37:57,360 --> 01:38:03,120
But like when Cruz comes in with
a man on base, you know, get 

2024
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:06,520
them out there 6th inning, 7th 
if necessary until the bullpen 

2025
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:10,320
gets reshaped, which it will. 
And then, you know, let them see

2026
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:13,200
if that splitter is is starting 
at the right spot and then, you 

2027
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:15,960
know, dart into the proper spot.
Because if it's starting too 

2028
01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:18,520
low, it's not going to present 
itself as a strike. 

2029
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:21,520
It's going to hit the dirt. 
If it's starting too high and 

2030
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:23,880
they recognize the spin, 
obviously it's a different kind 

2031
01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:25,160
of a spin. 
It's a tumble. 

2032
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:28,560
And if it starts high and then 
it, you know, by the time it 

2033
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:31,160
drops, it's it's, it's in the 
letters, it's in the wheelhouse.

2034
01:38:31,440 --> 01:38:34,440
Then Cruz is going to get hit a 
little bit, but his splitter is 

2035
01:38:34,440 --> 01:38:36,560
awesome. 
But it's just, it's like every 

2036
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:38,440
pitch. 
It's not always there. 

2037
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:43,000
Now, if you're a sinker guy or a
cutter guy like MO or I mean, 

2038
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:45,880
nobody was just MO with the 
cutter and then everybody else 

2039
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:48,160
wishes they had most cutter, but
you know what I mean. 

2040
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:52,560
Or heavy curveball reliant or 
sweeper, more modern baseball, 

2041
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:56,360
you know, I think it's easier to
get that feel the split finger, 

2042
01:38:56,480 --> 01:38:58,760
you know, outside of Bruce 
Souter, back of the day with the

2043
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:01,720
Cardinals and a couple of 
others, Rodger Craig, like 4 

2044
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:05,400
ball splitter. 
It it's, it's a little hit or 

2045
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:09,680
miss, but I do I'm with Benji. 
I am a huge Fernando Cruz fan. 

2046
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:13,320
I this guy loves being a Yankee.
You know, he's a dog. 

2047
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:16,840
I look at his numbers as a Tim. 
I mean, this is this is 

2048
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:19,960
ridiculous, man Tim Cruise been 
here. 

2049
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:23,080
Tim Cruise, Tim Hill's been here
three years, right? 

2050
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:29,600
He's got a 2.44 ERA and spits in
125 games. 

2051
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:32,440
I mean, they roll them out there
a lot and his WHIP is barely 

2052
01:39:32,440 --> 01:39:34,920
over 1. 
Doesn't give up a lot of hits, 

2053
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:39,040
doesn't get barreled a ton and 
doesn't give up a lot of walks. 

2054
01:39:39,480 --> 01:39:41,520
You know, So really, they'd 
actually like, I'm, you think 

2055
01:39:41,520 --> 01:39:43,320
I'm joking, but it didn't like 
when my son said that. 

2056
01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:46,280
I'm like, dude, stop enough. 
Like, you know, you watch enough

2057
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:48,320
of the Yankees, you know, you 
got to stop dumping on this guy.

2058
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:51,800
Yeah, I know it's it's you know,
it's not Goose or it's not MO 

2059
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:55,920
whatever or it's not, you know, 
Chapman years ago. 

2060
01:39:56,520 --> 01:40:00,560
Guy's pretty good. 
So Miami Tim Hill fan and I'm a 

2061
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:03,000
cruise fan as well. 
What else we got here, Jay, let 

2062
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:06,000
me get some of these tweets or 
or or chats, whatever it is. 

2063
01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:08,840
How are we doing with the with 
the poll here? 

2064
01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:12,280
I haven't had it up yet since 
SO. 

2065
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:16,000
I mean everyone answering the 
answering the one or two in the 

2066
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:18,800
chat for the poll, but still 
looking at the same numbers. 

2067
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:21,160
All right, this is an 
interesting thought. 

2068
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:23,440
You know I didn't get. 
Into this with with Boone, you 

2069
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:26,280
know, maybe I could have I only 
had 30 minutes and wanted to get

2070
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:29,240
all the other stuff how to cram 
it in so we couldn't really mess

2071
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:30,920
around like I wanted to have 
some fun. 

2072
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:34,400
We'll get them back on more, you
know, longer format and if they 

2073
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:37,440
didn't change the game time that
we would have had a longer 

2074
01:40:37,440 --> 01:40:39,960
format. 
But anyway, out-of-the-box this 

2075
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:42,960
is a good question. 
With Cole's age, recent injury 

2076
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:46,040
history, low walk rate and 
bulldog mentality, which is 

2077
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:49,400
true, why not put him in the 
closest role for 2026? 

2078
01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:51,040
We got more than enough starters
for now. 

2079
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:54,880
Need major bullpen boost. 
It is a very fair thought. 

2080
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:59,200
I think it would be a good move.
I don't think there's any chance

2081
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:00,760
it's happening. 
You're just not doing it now. 

2082
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:02,720
You're going to ride out Gerrit 
Cole for the length of his 

2083
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:05,080
contract, which I think is 2 
more years this and one more. 

2084
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:08,280
I believe it's obviously more on
the short term side. 

2085
01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:12,160
It's a starter now. 
We've seen this in the past with

2086
01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:16,320
Johnny Smoltz. 
It's not happening here. 

2087
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:18,840
I just, no, I don't I don't see 
it at all. 

2088
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:22,160
But Avery, I, I'm with you. 
I wish I would have asked him. 

2089
01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:24,000
That would have been interesting
if he would have just been like,

2090
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:26,720
dude, are you what? 
Or, and that's probably what he 

2091
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:27,800
would have. 
That's what I would say. 

2092
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:30,720
Like if I'm sitting in the 
Camden Yards manager's office 

2093
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:34,880
talking to me and I get asked 
the question and I'm the manager

2094
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:37,440
of the Yankees, a skip any 
thought about moving Gerard Cole

2095
01:41:37,440 --> 01:41:39,840
to the closing role? 
Like, what are you, an idiot? 

2096
01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:41,640
Like, that's probably what I 
would have said or at least 

2097
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:44,400
thought. 
But it's not an idiotic thought.

2098
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:50,320
It's actually a very sound 
baseball query, like really 

2099
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:52,240
like, I don't I don't know. 
I don't know. 

2100
01:41:52,240 --> 01:41:53,280
Who do you like in the game 
tonight? 

2101
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:54,280
I got to start wrapping things 
up. 

2102
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:56,400
I got things to do today. 
I wanted to get boot on. 

2103
01:41:56,680 --> 01:41:58,320
You got the Pistons or you got 
the Cavs. 

2104
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:02,200
Pistons laying 4 1/2. 
It's in Detroit series title 2. 

2105
01:42:02,480 --> 01:42:05,160
You were wrong on the last one. 
I know that's what I mean. 

2106
01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:08,880
And so now I'm like. 
All right, tonight, Pistons won 

2107
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:09,720
last. 
Wait. 

2108
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:12,440
Cavs won the last game. 
Cavaliers won the last game. 

2109
01:42:12,440 --> 01:42:13,760
Yeah. 
Remember we had Cunningham in 

2110
01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:16,360
Detroit. 
Rough game, 5 turnovers, 9 for 

2111
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:20,480
19 shooting and Mitchell had 43.
Because it's like, you know, are

2112
01:42:20,480 --> 01:42:22,880
the Pistons going to have that? 
Comeback or are the Cavs going 

2113
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:25,200
to kind of keep their foot on 
the gas? 

2114
01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:28,200
I'll take the Pistons. 
I'll take the Pistons. 

2115
01:42:28,480 --> 01:42:29,840
Get a ride the home team 
tonight. 

2116
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:30,960
Yeah, why not? 
Why not? 

2117
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:32,600
I think I. 
Go ahead. 

2118
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:33,040
I'm sorry. 
Finish. 

2119
01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:35,680
Up your thought no, that I. 
I guess that's what I didn't do 

2120
01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:37,640
last time and. 
So that's where I'm going to 

2121
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:42,800
correct my mistakes. 
I think I agree with you now. 

2122
01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:47,400
In a perfect world, you know, I 
it's almost like I want the 

2123
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:50,840
Pistons to win tonight because 
if the if the Cavaliers, Well, 

2124
01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:56,200
yeah, if the Cavaliers were to 
win tonight and not only am I 

2125
01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:58,200
going to pick the Pistons, but 
I'm going to lay the four and a 

2126
01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:00,640
half there, give you a little 
little pop on that. 

2127
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:02,560
I'd say Pistons by about 8:00 or
9:00. 

2128
01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:05,400
But if the Cavs win, I'm just 
thinking solely from a Knick 

2129
01:43:05,400 --> 01:43:08,160
point of view because that's all
I care about with this if the 

2130
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:12,240
Cavs win. 
Now, I'm not saying the Pistons 

2131
01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:14,400
couldn't go to Cleveland and 
win, but you would think that 

2132
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:16,440
there's a greater chance that 
the Cavs will win the next game 

2133
01:43:16,440 --> 01:43:18,320
at home. 
So if and especially with 

2134
01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:20,800
desperation, maybe a little more
friendly whistle kind of stretch

2135
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:22,560
that series out from the NBA's 
point of view. 

2136
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:28,320
If the Pistons lose tonight and 
the Cavaliers go up 32, you 

2137
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:31,640
know, there's there's a, I don't
know what percentage, but decent

2138
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:33,000
chance the Cavs win the next 
game. 

2139
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:36,440
And then they they they win four
games to two play Sunday and I'm

2140
01:43:36,440 --> 01:43:38,280
looking to go 7. 
I want this. 

2141
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:40,280
Thing just keep. 
Hitting each other, let those 

2142
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:42,960
bodies get tired, You know, a 
couple of hard fouls, a couple 

2143
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:45,320
of bumps and bruises. 
I don't want anybody to get 

2144
01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:46,560
really hurt. 
But, you know, a couple, like 

2145
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:49,440
the Knicks have some bumps and 
bruises with Cat always hitting 

2146
01:43:49,440 --> 01:43:53,160
the deck and Brunson's ankle and
obviously OG's hammy. 

2147
01:43:53,440 --> 01:43:56,480
You know, Bridges is a massive 
big minutes guy. 

2148
01:43:56,480 --> 01:43:58,320
You want him to rest up a little
bit more. 

2149
01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:00,520
Even though he's an Iron Man, 
I'm not worried about him, you 

2150
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:02,840
know, getting tired. 
But the more rest they have, the

2151
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:06,040
better for the Knicks here. 
So I I think from a Knick point 

2152
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:08,480
of view, I think it's better if 
the Pistons win. 

2153
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:10,960
Yeah, I'm winning. 
But even aside, like really even

2154
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:13,480
aside from that, I just think 
the Pistons will win. 

2155
01:44:13,560 --> 01:44:15,560
And I think the Piston, I'll 
still win the series. 

2156
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:18,480
I'll take him tonight just 
because I think of that poor 

2157
01:44:18,480 --> 01:44:19,480
performance. 
Last game. 

2158
01:44:19,480 --> 01:44:22,080
I think Kate will be back with a
monster game tonight. 

2159
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:25,280
Yep, Yep. 
Yeah. 

2160
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:27,480
Listen, Cade's got to do a 
better job protecting the ball 

2161
01:44:27,680 --> 01:44:30,000
when they were running that 
second defender with that trap 

2162
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:32,400
and and give the cavity because 
sometimes it was hard. 

2163
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:34,600
There's not a good defender, but
he is 6566. 

2164
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:37,400
So when he's that second guy 
coming over, getting his arms up

2165
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:39,920
and when you trap somebody, you 
play, listen, you play 

2166
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:42,480
basketball. 
You know, if you trap them right

2167
01:44:42,480 --> 01:44:45,360
as they come across the timeline
and they're in the middle of the

2168
01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:47,200
court, you know, you go left, 
you go right. 

2169
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:51,040
Passover and Cade 66 we could 
Passover you, 65 Passover you. 

2170
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:54,320
But when you start running that 
second guy and the timing is 

2171
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:58,000
perfect and it's it's precise 
and you're buttoned up and now 

2172
01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:01,040
you're using basically the the 
end line, the, you know, the the

2173
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:04,000
out of boundaries by the benches
as another defender. 

2174
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:06,520
Well, you got the out of bounds 
is the third defender. 

2175
01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:08,960
Basically you got the two guys 
who are converging on cave. 

2176
01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:11,920
He's got to recognize that 
quicker because the Cavaliers, 

2177
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:14,600
but when they were doing that, 
they made him look very 

2178
01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:16,800
uncomfortable. 
Even plays that didn't go as 

2179
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:20,000
turnovers. 
The offense lack continuity and 

2180
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:22,520
he didn't shoot well and they 
got him off his rhythm. 

2181
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:25,760
So now you talk about 
adjustments, and in the series 

2182
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,600
at this point, it's always about
adjustments after somebody does 

2183
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:32,280
something to you that you either
don't react well to or don't 

2184
01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:35,160
anticipate or both. 
I'm very curious. 

2185
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:37,840
And Bicker stabs very good. 
Cunningham's going to be a 

2186
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:40,800
superstar in this league, but 
he's had a lot of games where 

2187
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:43,600
he's turned it over a lot. 
I was like, you can't like five 

2188
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:46,240
times the other night he had a 
game with eight in the prior 

2189
01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:49,520
series, you know, so we'll see 
that little bit of Westbrook. 

2190
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:52,000
Yeah, a little bit. 
We we, we saw that from a 

2191
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,200
different kind of players, as 
you know, big time. 

2192
01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:56,000
Yeah, just on the turnover 
front, but. 

2193
01:45:56,040 --> 01:46:01,240
Also all the, you know, all the 
not all of them, but a lot of 

2194
01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:06,480
these ball dominant point 
forwards now will usually always

2195
01:46:06,480 --> 01:46:11,000
end up leading the playoffs in 
turnovers like 2024 Tatum and he

2196
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:14,680
I guarantee he still holds the 
record for most turnovers in a 

2197
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:16,800
in a playoff run. 
No. 

2198
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:19,360
Well, well, I we'd have to 
define that, because then we 

2199
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:20,680
get. 
In the weeds now, but in in a 

2200
01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:25,040
playoff series, no run, run, run
in an entire run I. 

2201
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:30,680
I think Tatum has that record by
like a mile really from 2024. 

2202
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:34,080
Dude was throwing it. 
He was, he was getting assists 

2203
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:36,520
for the. 
Back in the day, I swear. 

2204
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:39,040
I, I, I'm not saying that, no, 
I'm not saying he wasn't sloppy 

2205
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:41,880
with the ball, but. 
Let me see Tatum. 

2206
01:46:42,080 --> 01:46:44,040
I got to find the game log. 
This could take a second. 

2207
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:45,640
What? 
What year were we talking about?

2208
01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:50,880
Tatum 2021? 
2022 the Warriors run actually 

2209
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:55,000
funny enough, he had 100 
turnovers during the run. 

2210
01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:59,520
He beat LeBron out by 6. 
Yeah, he beat LeBron out by 6 in

2211
01:46:59,880 --> 01:47:02,440
in 20/17/2018. 
All right, let me see. 

2212
01:47:02,480 --> 01:47:04,880
So dude, he was you talk about 
the just the playoffs. 

2213
01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:07,280
Right, just the playoffs, 100 
turnovers. 

2214
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:09,240
You know what? 
Yeah, why? 

2215
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:10,720
You nailed it exactly. 
Look at Jay. 

2216
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:15,840
Oh no, I mean, I remember that 
dude because then like. 

2217
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:19,200
I mean, you know, that's a 
pretty tragic season for me. 

2218
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:21,560
Not tragic. 
We made the finals and we were, 

2219
01:47:22,120 --> 01:47:23,720
Yeah, what am I saying? 
Dude, I'm blessed. 

2220
01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:27,200
But we made the finals and we 
got and we got smacked up by the

2221
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:29,640
Warriors. 
But I just remember this dude 

2222
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:32,280
was just throwing it over and 
it's because we had Marcus. 

2223
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:34,520
Smart as the point guard at the.
Time, you know, I remember. 

2224
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:37,280
I like sport, all right? 
I mean, I like, I loved. 

2225
01:47:37,280 --> 01:47:41,120
Him in college and he was tough 
all right, so first round 

2226
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:43,960
against the Nets averaged 5 
turnovers in the in the 

2227
01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:46,200
four-game suite. 
The next round against 

2228
01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:49,800
Milwaukee, I think that was 6, 
but that's 73. 

2229
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:54,800
No, that was 7. 
He averaged 3.4, and then the 

2230
01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:57,600
next series against the Heat, 
that was also a deep series, 

2231
01:47:57,840 --> 01:48:01,120
averaged 4.7. 
Rounded up, that's five so so 

2232
01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:02,960
far. 
Two of the first three playoff 

2233
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:05,320
series he was in, he averaged 5A
game. 

2234
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:09,160
That's a lot. 
Pays to break the record if he 

2235
01:48:09,160 --> 01:48:11,040
played the same. 
Amount of game, that's where I 

2236
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:13,400
was kind of going, yeah. 
And. 

2237
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:16,480
Then. 
Six and then the Warriors, I 

2238
01:48:16,480 --> 01:48:19,280
think that was a six game. 
Series let me see was it wasn't 

2239
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:23,040
seven with three Yep, Yep, six 
games and he averaged 3.8 

2240
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:25,520
turnover. 
So that is a lot of times you're

2241
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:28,600
giving it to the wrong team and 
you're right, you know, you 

2242
01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:31,200
know, luckily, you know Cade 
will not have that opportunity 

2243
01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:34,000
because he will not get to the 
NBA Finals, if he even gets to 

2244
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:37,000
the conference finals. 
We'll see, which I think he 

2245
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:38,920
will. 
I yeah, I still think they'll 

2246
01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:40,160
make the conference rounds, but 
no. 

2247
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:43,960
If they are playing the way they
are looking currently and the 

2248
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:47,160
Knicks continue to play even a 
semblance of what they're 

2249
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:50,720
playing, I like I, you know, I'm
one who's hopeful that the 

2250
01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:52,640
Knicks will continue this level 
of play. 

2251
01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:57,680
But I, I don't know if you can 
expect 57% from three on any 

2252
01:48:57,680 --> 01:48:59,880
given night or something. 
Of course, you can't expect 

2253
01:48:59,880 --> 01:49:01,720
that, you know? 
Well, there's no way. 

2254
01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:04,000
But you can't you I don't. 
Even think that you. 

2255
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:06,560
Can really expect 80% of the way
the Knicks are playing right 

2256
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:07,680
now? 
No, no, no. 

2257
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:09,640
I mean, what what the Knicks are
doing, the Knicks are. 

2258
01:49:09,640 --> 01:49:11,200
Establishing playoff. 
Records. 

2259
01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:13,120
Oh, forget about franchise 
records. 

2260
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:16,040
I mean, the Knicks are 
establishing all time playoff 

2261
01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:19,360
record margin of victory. 
I mean, what what they are just 

2262
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:23,640
annihilating every but they won 
by 51 points in a playoff game, 

2263
01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:25,960
dude. 
I mean, that's like, you know, I

2264
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:31,000
don't know, that's like Alabama 
playing some poor by game in in 

2265
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:33,680
September in Tuscaloosa, 
Tuscaloosa. 

2266
01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:37,960
And they win, you know, 66 to 6 
because they called the dogs 

2267
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:40,600
off. 
I mean, this is not common stuff

2268
01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:42,000
here. 
No. 

2269
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:45,000
And now I I think of course the 
numbers will drop from an 

2270
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:47,560
efficiency point of view. 
Now you hope they don't drop too

2271
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:48,880
much and I don't think that they
will. 

2272
01:49:49,160 --> 01:49:50,720
But what I don't want to see 
change. 

2273
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:53,040
And we'll get more into this, 
obviously, as we know who 

2274
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:55,760
they're playing and we start to 
ratchet things up for the 

2275
01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:57,680
conference finals from a Knick 
point of view. 

2276
01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:00,560
But they just can't change their
style. 

2277
01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:03,240
They've got to remain. 
Now, the other teams will make 

2278
01:50:03,240 --> 01:50:04,520
some adjustments. 
I get that. 

2279
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:07,600
And and the Cavaliers are 
different personnel wise than 

2280
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:09,760
the Pistons. 
Cavs are longer. 

2281
01:50:09,880 --> 01:50:13,280
Pistons are stronger and and and
a little tougher, a little more 

2282
01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:16,040
stout, a little bit more 
physically, you know, resolute 

2283
01:50:16,360 --> 01:50:19,080
inside the paint. 
You know, Allen's skinny, Mobley

2284
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:20,920
skinny, whatever. 
But the point is, is that 

2285
01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:24,760
whomever they play, they better 
not deviate too far away from 

2286
01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:27,040
still funneling things through 
Karl Anthony Towns. 

2287
01:50:27,480 --> 01:50:29,760
That's not going to change. 
And if it does, they're not 

2288
01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:32,600
going to win. 
Yeah, I don't think simple. 

2289
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:34,080
I mean, simple as that. 
I feel like they've. 

2290
01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:37,680
Figured out, you know, the way 
this guy is most, I don't know 

2291
01:50:37,680 --> 01:50:40,400
if it's the most comfortable cat
is with playing, but it sure 

2292
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:43,520
seems like it's it's an area 
where he's very comfortable. 

2293
01:50:43,520 --> 01:50:45,960
Top of the key dishing it out, 
that being that kind of 

2294
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:48,400
facilitator as a player. 
So yeah, man. 

2295
01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:50,400
All right, man. 
All right. 

2296
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:51,680
I think we're getting ready to 
wrap it up on. 

2297
01:50:51,680 --> 01:50:54,040
That no, do me a favor, just pop
on that jets collective thing. 

2298
01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:56,480
Let everybody know one more time
tomorrow night. 

2299
01:50:56,760 --> 01:50:59,480
I can't wait. 
Like I I listen as a jets fan, 

2300
01:50:59,480 --> 01:51:02,480
there's really, I mean, this is 
like, you know, the the AFC 

2301
01:51:02,480 --> 01:51:05,040
championship game, if the draft 
is our Super Bowl. 

2302
01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:08,320
I mean the schedule release is, 
is kind of like the, you know, a

2303
01:51:08,480 --> 01:51:11,960
while at least a wild card game.
I'm excited, man, I am excited. 

2304
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:16,680
So it's going to be me and Rich 
and Jake that'll be tomorrow and

2305
01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:19,160
I know Rich has to just finish 
and following up the story 

2306
01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:21,400
there. 
So he'll join us right around 

2307
01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:22,880
eight O 5. 
But we're going to fire this 

2308
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:25,440
thing up on YouTube. 
We're going to go live episode 

2309
01:51:25,440 --> 01:51:29,560
number 8 of The Jets collective,
which will be phenomenal. 

2310
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:31,800
If you guys have been checking 
us out. 

2311
01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:34,640
We appreciate that. 
If you've yet to do it, jump in,

2312
01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:36,760
give us a sub, give us a like 
and all that good stuff. 

2313
01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:38,560
All right, J Rod, you got a 
little work in front of you 

2314
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:39,800
today, buddy. 
You got to start chopping up 

2315
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:42,320
that boonie interview. 
You've got a lot of work to get 

2316
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:44,200
to man. 
So you got the booty stuff, you 

2317
01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:46,800
got the stern stuff, which will 
will carve up. 

2318
01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:50,320
We he will carve up in in 
individual segments. 

2319
01:51:50,320 --> 01:51:53,120
We'll get that out for you. 
Listen, make sure you guys 

2320
01:51:53,120 --> 01:51:56,040
support it, like it, get it out 
there, spread it, share it, let 

2321
01:51:56,040 --> 01:51:57,920
your buddies know that we had 
Boone on the show. 

2322
01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:01,400
Obviously the comments, the 
feedback helps with the, you 

2323
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:05,480
know, the growth of the show, 
which I've told you many times 

2324
01:52:05,480 --> 01:52:07,920
here. 
So, and again, special thanks to

2325
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:11,600
Aaron for I was going to my 
daughter's softball game 

2326
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:15,240
yesterday, which by the way, the
final score I think was 20 to 14

2327
01:52:15,480 --> 01:52:18,360
softball game. 
J Rod, 20 to my goodness. 

2328
01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:25,440
Yeah, no, you get a lot. 
Well, I guess not really. 

2329
01:52:25,440 --> 01:52:27,280
Yeah. 
Defensively, that must have been

2330
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:29,920
an eyesore. 
Well, I mean, they're, they're 

2331
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:31,360
so young. 
They're nine years old. 

2332
01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:33,960
Man, they're, they're cuties, 
they're awesome and I coach some

2333
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:36,880
of them on the rec teams. 
I love watching them and played 

2334
01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:40,320
the lady Knights, but we we 
dropped a tough one there. 

2335
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:43,760
But when I was I just got to the
game and I sit in my folding 

2336
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:45,680
chair. 
I got my speed, my seeds. 

2337
01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:48,480
I'm getting ready to spit out 
bottle of water, watch the girls

2338
01:52:48,480 --> 01:52:50,680
get after it and I get a text 
from Boone. 

2339
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:53,760
He's like, they just they just 
they just changed the time of 

2340
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:55,680
the game. 
I can't do tomorrow. 

2341
01:52:55,840 --> 01:52:58,240
I'm like, or he's like, I don't 
think I could do tomorrow. 

2342
01:52:58,640 --> 01:53:00,480
I'm like, oh, man. 
And then I texted J Rod. 

2343
01:53:00,480 --> 01:53:01,560
I let him know what was going 
on. 

2344
01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:03,920
I texted Aaron, I'm like, 
because he was going to come out

2345
01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:07,840
at 10:30 and, you know, I said, 
well, what about maybe 9:30? 

2346
01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:09,920
What about 10? 
And he's like, I could do 10. 

2347
01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:12,440
I'm like, awesome, dude. 
I mean, just just the guy. 

2348
01:53:12,440 --> 01:53:15,160
I mean, I got like, like, that's
like, like, like he's got to do 

2349
01:53:15,160 --> 01:53:17,160
that, you know what I mean? 
Could have easily been like, 

2350
01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:18,960
dude, it's just not going to 
work out logistically. 

2351
01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:20,440
Come on. 
You know, we're going to wrap up

2352
01:53:20,440 --> 01:53:22,240
this series. 
You know, I want to make sure we

2353
01:53:22,240 --> 01:53:23,880
win the series. 
I'm a little bit busy. 

2354
01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:25,400
We'll hook up in a couple of 
weeks. 

2355
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:27,960
I made it happen. 
And I really, really, truly 

2356
01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:30,280
appreciate that. 
So thanks to the Yankee manager,

2357
01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:31,920
Aaron. 
Boom, thanks to you guys. 

2358
01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:35,120
Like it Subscribe Jets 
collective tomorrow night. 

2359
01:53:35,240 --> 01:53:39,000
We'll be back tomorrow at 10 and
that's it Have a great rest of 

2360
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:41,600
your day enjoy the Wednesday and
I will catch you guys tomorrow. 

2361
01:53:41,600 --> 01:53:41,920
Peace.
