1 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,280 on leash Are you listening? Can you hear me? 2 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:13,520 Hear me? This is on leash. 3 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:14,840 Are you listening? Can you hear me? 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,320 Hear me? This is on leash Are you 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:17,320 listening? Can you hear me? 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:18,800 Hear me? This is on leash Are you 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:19,840 listening? Can you hear me? 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,960 What's going on everybody BT unleash with you on this 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,480 Wednesday special day. My buddy Michael K is going to 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,080 join us in a couple of minutes. Can't wait. 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,240 Michael's the 2nd guest. I mean, so we had Salon and we 12 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,840 are rolling out the big dogs. No disrespect to Sal, but you 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,760 know, Sal's different. My partner, whatever, my former 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,240 partner, but Michael will join us in a can't wait get a hit A 15 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,320 lot of stuff with Michael. Obviously the season's 16 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,480 approaching so we'll jump into it. 17 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,520 Michael, probably about 10 minutes or so. 18 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,560 How about the Soto home run last night? 19 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,480 You know, for those of you who don't like the WBC, and I 20 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,280 understand that, you know, you're worried about injuries, 21 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,480 it's an unconventional stoppage to spring training, dude. 22 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,319 Get over yourself, man. If you can't appreciate that, 23 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:10,720 him hitting a 431 foot home run in the Dominican Republic, Santo 24 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,480 Domingo against the Tigers, and how about that line up to my 25 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,680 God, You see some of the guys on deck waiting for him. 26 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,080 I mean, you got Vladdy, you got Machado. 27 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,520 My God. So I'm into the WBC, It starts 28 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,200 tonight, right? Chinese Taipei and who the hell, 29 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:27,480 I think they're playing Australia. 30 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,720 And then you get 2 games tomorrow and then we get what 31 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,120 we're really looking for from United States point of view. 32 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,560 You got eight games on Friday and that's going to be 33 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,560 televised. USA versus Brazil. 34 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,920 That is pool B. It'd be a lot of fun. 35 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:43,800 All right, so I'm going to actually ask Michael about this 36 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,000 in a little bit. But did you guys see I, I don't 37 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,400 want to take for granted that you're actually sitting there 38 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,880 with bated breath, although some of you nut jobs probably are 39 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,440 watching, you know, every pitch of these Mets spring training 40 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,120 games and Yankees as well. By extension. 41 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,560 Did you see this Mets pitcher yesterday, Jeffrey Yan? 42 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,960 I mean, I've never heard of the guy before yesterday and the 43 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:08,720 celebrations are are absolutely, I mean there's somewhere in the 44 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,680 middle of awesome and absolutely ludicrous. 45 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,880 So he's a guy. He's what, 29 years old? 46 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,400 He's been in the miners for like 7 years. 47 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,960 I think his highest levels AA throws gas, you know, high 90s 48 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,440 lefty, incredible energy out there. 49 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,720 He's he's like, he's like there's somebody on stage or 50 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,200 Broadway and he's very wild. I mean, I'm not going to get 51 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,360 into a detailed scouting report, but when you throw cheese and he 52 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,400 can't throw a strike, generally, that's why you hang in the 53 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,200 miners. And I think he even bounced 54 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,920 around internationally, whether it was Mexico, whatever he was 55 00:02:38,920 --> 00:02:40,880 doing. Yeah, you got to respect the 56 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:41,680 grind here. Yes. 57 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,040 Six years of the miners, three years foreign ball. 58 00:02:44,920 --> 00:02:48,320 And and and I think it's his numbers were in totality like 59 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,680 six walks per night. So but that's not even the 60 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,000 story. He did a celebration. 61 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,560 That's one thing. When you end the game where he 62 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,720 basically almost did a somersault and did a Michael 63 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,600 Jackson impersonation. I've never. 64 00:02:58,640 --> 00:03:02,280 I mean, do you think Chapman and some of these other guys go go 65 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,160 nuts? This was insane. 66 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,720 And I, and I got to tell you, and you know, those of you who 67 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,000 have listened to me for years and watch the show, you know 68 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,440 that especially with the baseball, just giving the record 69 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,080 book and all that stuff. Most of my views are rooted in 70 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,320 Mure and in, in more of a, of a pure sense than not. 71 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,600 But it's interesting because I'm, I'm in my, I'm in my early 72 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,000 50s and most guys my age really. That's why I'm curious what 73 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,760 Michael thinks about this. Michael's a little bit older, 74 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,440 but what, you know, most, most of the older generation kind of 75 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,360 resists and some people resent like the new age athletes, the 76 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,800 celebrations, the over over the top stuff. 77 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,280 And, and I'm OK with it to an extent because if I get you out, 78 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,160 you know, you have the ability to come back and knock me around 79 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,680 next time. It's, it's a battle, you know, 80 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,760 it's showmanship and really baseball, it's probably the last 81 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,960 sport where swag has really entered the game. 82 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,960 I mean, the NBA going back to like Iverson and those guys, the 83 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,720 baggy shorts, Jordan with the sneakers. 84 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,240 We've had that in the NBA forever. 85 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,000 Going back to the ABA, the great documentary, which was 86 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,840 phenomenal. The four, three parts. 87 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,200 I think it was the maybe 4 on Netflix, which was phenomenal as 88 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,200 well. Baseball, a little slow to the 89 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,080 party. We've got the antiquated 90 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,640 unwritten rules for baseball. God forbid you have a little bit 91 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,480 of fun. So I'm not that guy whoever 92 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,079 tries to suppress that. It is a hard game. 93 00:04:21,079 --> 00:04:24,800 It is monotonous. It is a very long, draining, 94 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,840 mundane season. I was just talking on the show 95 00:04:26,840 --> 00:04:30,080 the other day about, you know, because many of you just, you 96 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,720 know, you flip on the game at seven O 5, whatever it is on yes 97 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,880 or S&Y. And you just, you know, you see 98 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,560 your favorite baseball players play a game. 99 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,200 Maybe you stick around and watch the post game and you call it a 100 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,440 wrap. But these guys get to the 101 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,280 ballpark. They're like 3 O clock and, you 102 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:45,960 know, you grind and you're going through hitting meetings and 103 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,560 pitching meetings and you're, you know, getting loose and 104 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,240 stretching and then playing a game that does not have a time, 105 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,840 as we know, even though it's been speed up. 106 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,840 So it's, it's a grind. So who the hell am I to say not 107 00:04:55,840 --> 00:04:58,200 to have some fun? And, and even, you know, 108 00:04:58,200 --> 00:04:59,960 watching my son, I know Michael's son. 109 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,840 I want to see if he's still catching as well. 110 00:05:01,840 --> 00:05:05,080 I, I think he, I think Michael told me at a Rod's party, had a 111 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:06,760 couple of drinks in me. So I've got to make sure I have 112 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,960 this right, that little Charlie's throwing on the tools 113 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,560 of ignorance and hopping behind the dish. 114 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,400 So Michael knows when, when you go to a youth game these days, 115 00:05:15,840 --> 00:05:19,960 you know, between all the drip, the three chains, right, the arm 116 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,680 sleeves, you know, the hat tilted a little bit. 117 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,960 The now they've got my son got these this year for the first 118 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,360 time when I was in College in the mid 90s with that, that was 119 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,480 when like Griffey and some of these guys were starting to wear 120 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,000 the pants really low and the high tops, the Nike high tops 121 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,280 kind of hit the scene. So that was our look. 122 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:40,400 And then you started to see, and I like this look, the side, the 123 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,480 pants going higher. Now they actually have these 124 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,080 pants that are almost like football pants and you see 125 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,120 football players wearing it as well where they come up like mid 126 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:49,760 thigh. And then they've got these socks 127 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,480 that basically go up to your thigh. 128 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,040 So if you're around youth baseball, you're not surprised. 129 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,720 Like this is the new wave of energy and the drip is it's it's 130 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,840 real. I mean, some of these, my son 131 00:06:00,840 --> 00:06:05,720 must have 99 baseball like lifestyle sweatshirts, not to 132 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,920 throw free pops out there, but the bright cold colors and the 133 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,760 bold stuff. The younger generation loves it 134 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,720 and they feel it. And I'm not, again, I'm not here 135 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,360 to diminish the enjoyment, but I mean, this guy on the mound, 136 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,440 last night's got to get a grip because Soto or Lindor, God 137 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,240 forbid, is going to take one in the Dome if you do that to the 138 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:23,720 wrong guy. Now, I don't think that he's 139 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,800 going to even make the team. It will be a really good story 140 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,120 if he could find his way into the bullpen or, you know, some 141 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,720 role at some point. But you got to see this. 142 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,320 I mean, Jay Rod, I mean, you're a young cat, so you're OK with 143 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,160 the celebrations. But this guy was doing dude, I 144 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,520 just watched the clip. Oh my God, I just watched the 145 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:41,240 clip. What do you do? 146 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,240 A split and like a Superman punch into the ground or 147 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,840 something amazing. I mean, listen, if he if he 148 00:06:46,840 --> 00:06:49,280 can't make it as a baseball player, he could join the circus 149 00:06:49,280 --> 00:06:52,160 or do something on the tightrope because he's incredibly nimble 150 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,920 and maybe be a wrestler like he's incredibly agile. 151 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,680 But that was that was a lot right there. 152 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,240 So I saw I saw that yesterday. I did enjoy the home run by 153 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,720 Soto. So listen, let's not waste a lot 154 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,120 of time. But it's a Wednesday, so it is 155 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,800 time for let's slap it up there. Mr. J Rod, before we get to the 156 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,920 great Michael K Yup, the Johnny's report brought to you 157 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,880 by my friends and Sullivan propane. 158 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,040 All right, obviously Sullivan Propane, one of New York's best 159 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,520 personal injury law firms, according to U.S. news and World 160 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,560 Report, get fired up with Sullivan Propane at every St. 161 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,400 John's home game this year at the Garden. 162 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,280 Remember the name Sullivan Propane? 163 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,640 The website ofcoursetriallaw1.com that is 164 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,320 trial law1.com. Remember the name Sullivan 165 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:34,520 Propane. So St. 166 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,600 John's. They begged their 24th win last 167 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,160 night. All right, so you've got the 168 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,320 regular season finale Friday at Cedar Hall, which is going to be 169 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,680 a mosh pit of energy and Shaheen Holloway that that team's going 170 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,280 to be ready to play. It's going to be a street fight 171 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,880 9:00 tip that's coming up. And then it's the Big East 172 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,440 tournament, which is always a blast. 173 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,600 And on Sunday night I will unveil here on BT unleashed. 174 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:56,920 I'm not going to go live with that. 175 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,560 I'll I'll drop it in separate content. 176 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,520 My old time Big East team and the amount of work and not that 177 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:02,840 I'm looking to get patted on the back. 178 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,640 I mean, but the amount of research I did a lot of it was 179 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,720 top of mind, but I didn't honorable mention. 180 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:13,120 I mean because they're the Big East was born in 79 and then I I 181 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:14,760 know there's some glaring omissions. 182 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,600 I know it's going to spark a little conversation. 183 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,080 I can't wait for that. But last I little worried 184 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,080 watching St. John's doing the game with Mink. 185 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,160 They they just there was a malaise. 186 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,320 You know, senior night. That happens sometimes. 187 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,360 They were down by 8 at the half. Georgetown is not good, but they 188 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,280 played hard. So anyway, St. 189 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,799 John's does come back there 17 and two. 190 00:08:33,159 --> 00:08:36,320 God, think about the years, the lost years, the diminishment of 191 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,720 the brand, 17 and two and then obviously trying to get 18 on 192 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,679 Friday night and then it's the tournament right now probably 193 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,280 about A5 seat or so. So the revitalization of the 194 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,880 brand continues with Rick Zubi being out of last night was 195 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,160 phenomenal. Listen, and Rick said this as 196 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:53,960 well. They got to retire his number. 197 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,520 They must get that name in the Raptors at some point. 198 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,040 Because you know, when you think about the the restoration of the 199 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,960 brand, of course, it started with a commitment with money to 200 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,560 to hire Rick and you get what you pay for. 201 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:08,440 I mean, St. John's many years was trying to 202 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,640 cut the corners and be cheap and save money and operate like a 203 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,400 mob and pop shop and it wasn't working. 204 00:09:13,680 --> 00:09:16,000 Well, it's working in a big way now, as we know. 205 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,600 And of course, Rick is the impetus behind that first and 206 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,400 foremost. But you need a star player and a 207 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,160 great leader with great character and he's going to wind 208 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,560 up going back-to-back biggies player of the year awards. 209 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:29,960 So that's to me that's it. Is that enough of a resume to 210 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,640 get that number up there at some point? 211 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,800 Saddened by the way, was great last night as well. 212 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,120 He's been a big disappointment this year. 15 points off the 213 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,120 bench and shooting it. So that is the St. 214 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,080 John's report. Of course, the John's report 215 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,360 brought to you by Sullivan Propane. 216 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,680 Remember the name Sullivan Propane. 217 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:50,160 All right, so let's get him up. It's an honor to welcome him to 218 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,120 BT Unleashed. I've known him forever. 219 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,360 He's an absolute icon of the business. 220 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,640 He's a great guy. He's kept this humility and a 221 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,880 lot of these guys who make it, you know, I'm not going to name 222 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,520 names, although maybe at some point I will. 223 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,480 I don't want to put Mike in a rough spot, so I won't do it 224 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,360 now. But there's a lot of people out 225 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:05,760 there. They hit a certain level in 226 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,520 their industry and they forget where they came from. 227 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,640 And this guy never has. A Bronx boy always wanted to be 228 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,360 the voice of the Yankees, and he has been that, and he's going to 229 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,000 be in the Hall of Fame someday. I tell him that. 230 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,680 He pushes back the great Michael Kay, of course, also on 880 231 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:21,680 doing a show everyday. Mike, what's going on, buddy? 232 00:10:21,680 --> 00:10:24,360 How you feel, man. I'm great, Brandon, let's name 233 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,720 names and I am never going to be in the Hall of Fame unless I 234 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,720 drive there, so I'm never going to be there. 235 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:30,600 You want to name names? All right? 236 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:31,880 Maybe. Maybe. 237 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,600 Maybe Costas. No, I'm just kidding, all right? 238 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,200 No, I like Costas good man. I know, I know and he's one of 239 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:38,960 the all time great broadcasters, no doubt. 240 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,080 I'm I'm not going to waste time telling you why you're going to 241 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,760 be in the Hall of Fame. Just accept it. 242 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,960 I'm saying it you can you can accept this humbly and move on. 243 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,520 You will be at some point. All right, so here's The funny 244 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,640 thing, right? So I saw Mike at a Rod's party, 245 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,080 saw his beautiful wife again, who got to meet my wife. 246 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,200 Great night, awesome party. Some random people there as 247 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,840 well. I mean, Curtis Martin flowing 248 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,400 through it was awesome. And I obviously text with Mike 249 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:03,880 and I've known Mike for a long time. 250 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,040 And then I said, hey, Mike, shoot me your e-mail because I 251 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,120 can hook you up with J Roddy, get the link in for the show, 252 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,880 blah, blah, blah. And he sends me back an AOL 253 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:16,520 account and I have an AOL account and I get clown for it. 254 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,160 I mean, can you at least tell everybody the reason behind the 255 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:20,560 AOL? It's just really out of 256 00:11:20,560 --> 00:11:24,520 convenience because if you get a new one, all the contents and, 257 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,560 and the contacts and everything's about pain in the 258 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,640 ass. You are an AOL guy. 259 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,120 And I'm proud of that, Mike. I'm an OG. 260 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,520 You're an OG. You know, that's how I got into 261 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,000 the Internet. So I had an AOL account, like 262 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,120 you said, that everybody that knows me has that account. 263 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,760 So if I change it, then some people might not have a way to 264 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,640 get in touch with me. But the funny part about the 265 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:48,120 story, Brandon, up until about 12 years ago, I paid every month 266 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,600 for the AOL account, which you used to do when you first got 267 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,400 it. And I was talking to Bob 268 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,600 Kloppish and I think he has an AOL account as well. 269 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,480 And he said, you're paying for it. 270 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,880 I said, yeah, I I don't want to give it up. 271 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,840 He goes, just call them and say you don't want to pay for it. 272 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,360 I said, but they'll take it away. 273 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,760 He goes, I guarantee you they will not take it away. 274 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,000 I call us. I don't want to pay that. 275 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,400 OK, you could keep it. So I mean, I I was paying for it 276 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:14,920 for 10 years. I didn't even have to. 277 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,120 What a horrendous business model. 278 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,560 Pay if you want, don't pay. How do they make any money? 279 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,440 I don't, I don't know. I mean, there's AOL even in in 280 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,120 business anymore, but somebody's running the the emails. 281 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,320 It's probably a bunch of bots at this point. 282 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,800 So let me let's start here. But you heard me doing the St. 283 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,000 John's Report, the John's report, and a lot of you don't 284 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,440 know this now. A lot of you do know that 285 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,920 Michael started as a writer, always aspired to be the voice 286 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,760 of the Yankees. What an amazing dream to have 287 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,920 and actually come to fruition. But many of you don't know that 288 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,720 Michael was doing Seton Hall radio back in the day. 289 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,800 And those were the days, I mean, and you were right after they 290 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,560 got to the Final Four, but that was still the apex of the Big 291 00:12:53,560 --> 00:12:54,800 East. That was your first big 292 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,040 broadcast job, right? Well, I think I got it. 293 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,480 You know, I looked it up because you asked me about it. 294 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,920 I think I got it right around when I got the Yankee job, which 295 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,600 is in 1992. And I did five years of Seton 296 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:09,600 Hall and if you sell was a play by play guy and I was and I was 297 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,800 the analyst. And those are those are fun 298 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,600 times. I started with PJ went to George 299 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,640 Blaney and I actually became friends at the time with a a 300 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,600 young kid named Danny Hurley. So I mean, he still remembers 301 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,640 that as well. Those are great times. 302 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,040 And Warren, if you sell is legendary. 303 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,960 He's no longer with us. He used to be the voice of this 304 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,760 week in baseball after Metal Allen and he was he was 305 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,240 different Brandon like he did not have a television. 306 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:41,040 He does not how to drive And he no, he had a television. 307 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:45,040 He bought a television because he wants to watch game seven of 308 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:49,800 the 1975 Red Sox, Reds World Series. 309 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,320 And he, he watched the TV, little TV, and he put it in his 310 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:58,080 closet and never used it again. And he was just, he was locked 311 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,000 in. He was just like an old time 312 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,640 guy. I loved them. 313 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,200 And we used to have a great time doing the games together. 314 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:05,880 I think they were on WABC at the time. 315 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:06,560 They were. Wow. 316 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,800 So he treated you well. So it's funny because you're 317 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,080 you're older than me. Not, not, not by your time, but 318 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,440 you're older. So when you're coming up and and 319 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,640 you have these Yankee broadcast aspirations, I always wanted to 320 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,800 be on the radio. I never really thought about 321 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:21,440 doing games. And ironically, I've been doing 322 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:22,520 St. John's for a long time time. 323 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:27,160 But there were some sports radio shows back in the day, right? 324 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,000 Art Rush Junior, a couple of Dave Sims was doing some stuff. 325 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,240 Were you just a newspaper guy? Like how were your dreams? 326 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,000 I'm very curious, outside of watching the Yankees, how were 327 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,600 they fostered? How did you practice? 328 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,880 Like how did you, how did you, how did you dream this big dream 329 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,920 and then try to pursue it with without a lot of radio shows and 330 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,840 stuff going on? Well, I, I loved the Yankees 331 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,800 when I was a kid. I mean, I was the type of kid 332 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,320 that, you know, from the time I was nine years old, I would 333 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,560 watch or listen to every single game all year. 334 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,040 I was a kid with the transistor under the blanket listening to 335 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,800 the West Coast games, much to the chagrin of my parents. 336 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:05,560 And at 9:00, at nine years old, Brandon, I was very rational. 337 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,040 I was definitely afraid of getting hit by baseball when I 338 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,160 hit. So I said I'm never going to be 339 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,000 a Yankee and I want to be. I wanted to be involved with the 340 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,520 Yankee some way. So I was a nine year old, you 341 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:16,760 know, who knows if it's realistic. 342 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,880 I said, you know, I want to be the Yankee announcer because 343 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:23,400 there were 4 male voices in my house, my dad, Phil Rizzuto, Joe 344 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,840 White and Frank Messer. That's it. 345 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,920 You know, my sister and my mom obviously were the women in the 346 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,480 house and I would watch and listen to every single game. 347 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,680 But I want, I don't have like the story like like Marv Albert 348 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,880 where I'd sit there with a recorder and stuff like that. 349 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,720 I probably do play by play in my head, but I, I, it was just a 350 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,800 dream. It was like an aimless dream. 351 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,000 I'm sure so many kids out there have it. 352 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,720 And then as I got closer to, you know, college, I started, let's, 353 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,000 let's pursue this. And when I got to Fordham, 354 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,760 Brandon, I really he sounded like Vinnie Barbarino. 355 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,400 Up your nose with a rubber hose. Oh my God, I had, I had the 356 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:04,520 worst New York accent and I was on WFUV, but I started writing 357 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,480 them as well. I never wanted to be a writer 358 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,880 and I just thought, well, maybe this is another way into the 359 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,920 business. And I ended up getting the job 360 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,560 at the Post. And through many, many steps 361 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,160 after that, I was at the Post and I covered the Yankees for 362 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,920 five years, first at the Post and then the Daily News. 363 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,920 I ended up getting the Yankee gig on radio, but I never had 364 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,920 any aspirations whatsoever of doing talk radio ever, ever, 365 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,080 ever. I used to listen to Art Russ. 366 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,400 I listen to a little bit, ironically enough, of John 367 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:32,960 Sterling when I was really young. 368 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,880 But the only reason I got into talk radio was a guy that you're 369 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,400 very familiar with, Tim McCarthy. 370 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,960 I was the best. He said you'd, you'd really be 371 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,960 good at this. You're opinionated, blah, blah, 372 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,960 blah. And I ended up taking that as 373 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,920 like a side gig right before I got the Yankee job. 374 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,760 And you know, I've been doing talk radio now for 25 years. 375 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,440 You still loving it? I really do there. 376 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,120 I mean, we, we obviously people might not know this. 377 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,000 We're, we're friends and you know, I've gone back and forth. 378 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,280 So like 3 or 4 years ago, I told you I was done. 379 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,680 I was, I was out. I, I said, and you said really, 380 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:11,599 I said I'd say 95% chance and I just was worn out. 381 00:17:11,599 --> 00:17:14,319 You know, I'm getting older and I have young kids and I, I said, 382 00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:16,440 this is just too much to do that and the Yankees. 383 00:17:17,319 --> 00:17:19,319 And then there was like a second wind. 384 00:17:19,319 --> 00:17:22,319 I, I got and I stayed with the afternoon show. 385 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,520 And then after the afternoon show with Don and Peter, I 386 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,400 started to feel like exhausted again. 387 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,880 I said, I can't do this. And the people with good karma, 388 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,280 they, they run the radio division of ESPN Radio. 389 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,080 They said, well, how can we keep you? 390 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,600 I said, there's, there's no way to keep me. 391 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,880 I can't, I just can't do 4 hours in the afternoon and then do a 392 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,640 Yankee game. I'm, I'm going to kill myself. 393 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,880 And I said, how about a shorter show that you do by yourself? 394 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,840 And I said, OK, I think about that. 395 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,600 And they put it together, like, why don't you go on from 11:00 396 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:51,560 to 1:00? And. 397 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,120 And Brandon, I love working with Don. 398 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,320 Yeah, in those years, I know. And Don's a great friend and I 399 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:01,440 love working with Peter, but doing the show by myself, it's 400 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,680 kind of re energized me. Two hours. 401 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,880 It's like it's unbelievable. It goes by so fast and you know, 402 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,600 the callers are there and I get, I get guests because I know 403 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,080 people in the business. It's been great. 404 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:13,560 I could see myself doing it for a while. 405 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,320 Now wow, a Full disclosure, when I sent you that text inquired 406 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:18,720 about you know what you were going to do. 407 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,880 I was just hoping that I might have a place to land if things 408 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,880 went sideways at the fan. I didn't give a shit if you 409 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,120 stayed or went, I just. I figured that, yeah, 410 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,400 absolutely. I thought, I thought that you'd 411 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,320 be absolutely a good a guy that would be able to like slide 412 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:32,960 right in with Don. You have a great relationship 413 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,800 with Don. And you know, you obviously be 414 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,760 good with Peter as well. But I ended up staying, I think 415 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,400 after I showed that I'm staying two more years on the afternoon. 416 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,440 And then I was, then I was cooked again. 417 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,960 But good karma made it so easy for me to stay. 418 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,360 And I love it. I really do. 419 00:18:47,360 --> 00:18:49,440 And I might think about this. There's a different pressure. 420 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,280 You're doing a show by yourself. Like there's just days where 421 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:56,000 it's simple, like, OK, judges on a heater, the Knicks get 422 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,640 destroyed by the Pistons. That's a layer. 423 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,120 But I don't want to say anybody could do that. 424 00:18:59,120 --> 00:19:02,000 But that's about as easy as it gets for somebody like us who's 425 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,560 been doing it for a long time. And, and now I'm by myself and I 426 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,640 do some other stuff, you know, where, where I'm with other 427 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,040 people, but primarily day-to-day, it's just me like 428 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,680 you now as you transition away from Don and Pete, The, the, 429 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,160 the, I don't want pressure, sure, but the responsibilities 430 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,320 different on a slow day. You know, you got to get those 431 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,520 wheels cranking to come up with some interesting content. 432 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,560 Do you find that a challenge because you've never really had 433 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,160 to do that because you've always had Don, who's an animal at a 434 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,160 sports radio life rate? If things are slow, you guys can 435 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,400 still create a spark. Yeah, it it got me a little 436 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,520 nervous at the beginning because, you know, we moved to 437 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,320 880 so we left the the FM stick, which was, you know, really a 438 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,920 fire breathing stick and had had good reach. 439 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,120 So that got me a little nervous because the first first week or 440 00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:49,440 so, people didn't follow me right away because we were not 441 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,480 being simulcasted on Yes either. That was a big part of the 442 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,560 audience, you know, the Yes network simulcast. 443 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,480 And then after about a week, it started to come back. 444 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,840 And, you know, as long as you have phone calls, you can create 445 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,920 content. But like you, you're talking 446 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,040 about slow time. Right now. 447 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,320 We're in the middle of a slow time. 448 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,800 I know this isn't great. I mean, when the Knicks aren't 449 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,760 playing, nobody cares about the Nets, The Rangers are awful, The 450 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,760 Jets and the Giants with, you know, the combine. 451 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,320 So you, you, you got to come up with different ideas and 452 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,800 creative ways to, to spark conversation and not going to be 453 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,360 a little nervous at the beginning because when you have 454 00:20:20,360 --> 00:20:24,120 somebody there like you had Sal and I had Don and Peter, even if 455 00:20:24,120 --> 00:20:25,920 there's nothing to talk about in sports, we could just be. 456 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,720 About stuff I was in the I was in the car yesterday. 457 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,680 I was listening to Don Peter and Alan Hahn and you know, they're 458 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,360 talking about music and stuff like that. 459 00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:36,280 I said that's the beauty of being with somebody because you 460 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,320 can go back and forth. Otherwise, if you're alone, as 461 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,280 you know, and you're doing this, you're talking to yourself and 462 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,400 you're doing this right now without phone calls, which I 463 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,320 give you unbelievable props. It's like there's no, there's no 464 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,600 safety net. The phone calls, the safety net. 465 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,560 If you need I I actually call the listeners my Co host. 466 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,000 You know you can go to them and they could create content. 467 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,320 But yeah it's different when you're doing it alone. 468 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:03,240 It's all on you. So the, I think the toughest 469 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,760 thing doing a solo show is to be funny. 470 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,200 Like, how do you like? It's almost impossible. 471 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,560 Like you almost have to be almost wacky because you can't 472 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,640 really set up your own joke. So I think that that energy and 473 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,040 that theatrical presentation comes from either a hit piece 474 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,440 when you RIP somebody, which obviously people enjoy because 475 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,040 it's good radio, but it's hard to be funny when nobody's next 476 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,720 to you. Yeah, because you don't know if 477 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,600 you're being funny. I mean, you can actually be 478 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,880 funny and there's no laughter, you know what I mean? 479 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,800 There's no audience. So if I was funny with Don and 480 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,440 Peter, I'd get a laugh out of them. 481 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,800 And I figure if they're laughing, then people that are 482 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,080 listening or laughing, but you have no idea when you're doing 483 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,040 it alone, sometimes you feel like you're speaking into the 484 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,920 wind. And it's that's. 485 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:47,440 I'm glad you brought it up because I told the people at 486 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,080 good karma. They said what's the hardest 487 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,000 thing about? I said the hardest thing is to 488 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,360 be funny. I mean you could be provocative, 489 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,600 you could have sports takes. You could be strong in in your 490 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,680 takes, but in order to be funny, I, I don't know, you just don't 491 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,320 know if you're funny. You feel like Rupert pumpkin 492 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,800 half the time you you doing it in your basement. 493 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,800 You don't even know. Is anybody laughing at this? 494 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,880 So I figure if I can get a giggle out of it, maybe somebody 495 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,720 listening somewhere on the stream or watching on YouTube, 496 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,400 they're laughing as well. But it's a hard thing to gauge. 497 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:16,840 I'm. With you. 498 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:17,880 Yeah. All right, So you talk about 499 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,960 like, you know, speaking into the wind, like, is anybody 500 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,560 listening? My earliest frustration when we 501 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,800 were starting at 10:50. Now you started, you guys 502 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,240 started well, Don started right after 9. 11 Don was the first 503 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:30,520 voice. I know he was. 504 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,560 Was that right after or before 9/11? 505 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,320 I think it was, I think the week after 911. 506 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,400 That's what I thought, OK, And then you come in and I came in 507 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,920 in April of O3. Timmy McCarthy, you may love 508 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,520 him. One of the best, One of the 509 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,360 absolute best people and programmers and salesperson. 510 00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:49,360 He is just a home run human. He's the fucking best. 511 00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:53,960 I love him. So the early days of 1050, it 512 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,160 was very frustrating because if you look at our roster, we had a 513 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,960 lot of guys who went out to do a lot of stuff. 514 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,400 Stephen A came in, You're a star. 515 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,520 I'll leave myself out of it. Don's a star. 516 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,440 But it was so hard to get traction. 517 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,520 And we all wanted to at least compete with WFN because we're 518 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,320 all competitive people and we knew our product was really 519 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,960 good, but nobody could hear us with that shit signal that we 520 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,720 had. I know it was a massive 521 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,720 frustration for me doing night shows, doing weekends. 522 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,360 How about you, in the middle of the day trying to, you know, 523 00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:24,360 make waves? It's tough. 524 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,360 It it was it was frustrating. This 1050 was not really a 525 00:23:28,360 --> 00:23:31,360 strong signal and I don't think we really took off until we went 526 00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:34,200 to 98.7, but we started to get traction at 10:50. 527 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,000 But just remember one thing, you're going up against the 528 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,120 Yankees and the Cowboys when you're going up against FANI 529 00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:43,640 mean, people grew up on FAN. We still, we see people now 530 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,000 where where they talk about, you know, they're like Geo, a 531 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,000 boomer. And Geo, he was a listener. 532 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,480 You were a listener to FAN before any of this went on. 533 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,080 So people grew up with it. It was hard to change their 534 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,240 habit. So when we finally broke 535 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,240 through, I mean, it was really one of the proud moments of my 536 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,880 career because nobody thought we could do it. 537 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,000 I mean, Mike Francesa, you know, famously said, well, they're a 538 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,680 pea shooter, stuff like that key shooter. 539 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,120 And nobody knew. I mean, we, we'd sit there and 540 00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:16,200 we'd get frustrated because we knew we were putting good 541 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,920 content together, but you didn't know if anybody was listening. 542 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,760 And then I, I think to this day, even though we ended up winning 543 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,920 at times, I think radio ratings are ridiculous. 544 00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:30,360 I mean, you're judging 8 million people in an area by like 6 or 7 545 00:24:30,360 --> 00:24:33,280 meters. It's, it's a joke That's so 546 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,040 inexact. And, you know, we get frustrated 547 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,040 because that I, I think the turning point for, for at least 548 00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:43,200 the afternoon show for us is when they dropped Francesa on 549 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,560 yes. And they simulcasted us and I 550 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,720 think that brought in another audience as well. 551 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,600 And then we ended up beating him before he retired. 552 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:55,920 So yeah, at the beginning it it was tough, but you know, Tim has 553 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,880 great ideas. He's great with promotion and 554 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,000 stuff like that. He just knew how to program a 555 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,000 station and and he knew talent, too. 556 00:25:02,120 --> 00:25:04,440 Yeah, he did. All right, So I, I mentioned 557 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,200 Stephen A You think he's going to run for president? 558 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,640 I know you follow what's going on in the world like I do, and 559 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,120 he's on Hannity, he's on The View, He's Chris Cuomo's his 560 00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:14,440 buddy, like he's everywhere. You think he's going to actually 561 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,840 make a run at some point? Well, I mean, he might have 562 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,840 golden handcuffs because he makes so much money from from 563 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,560 ESPN. You know the rumors about 20 564 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,920 million a year. Yep, we'd have to give that up. 565 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,120 You know, if he, if he was running, but you know, it, it 566 00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:30,520 seems now from if you watch the political spectrum, you guys can 567 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:31,880 make a lot of money if you're president. 568 00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:34,840 But I'm not, I'm not sure that, you know, I'm not sure if he 569 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,320 could win. I'm not sure if he has to cross 570 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,640 appeal. But he's got something, you 571 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,000 know, a lot of people, if you said 15 years ago Donald Trump 572 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,760 was going to be president, they would laugh at you. 573 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,520 I think, I think it's more of a celebrity thing now, a 574 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,400 personality thing. So Stephen A has a shot because 575 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,720 he certainly has the he has the connections and he has the he 576 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,600 has the voice and he has the reach. 577 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,960 About this, they were over this past weekend, we were talking 578 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,720 about about Stephen A and, and whether he's going to, you know, 579 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,720 make a run. I said, I said, listen, I think 580 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:02,920 he wants to get on the debate stage. 581 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,280 That's what I think because I don't I don't, I don't know I'm 582 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,360 going to have Stephen on the show. 583 00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:09,640 So I'll ask him, but I don't think he's ultimately, that's 584 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,400 just my opinion that he'll run for president. 585 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,840 If he does, I don't think he'll win. 586 00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:15,400 Certainly won't embarrass himself. 587 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,760 But what's interesting with him is that he's even said he's he's 588 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,040 fiscally conservative. He would run as a Democrat. 589 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,200 But I think for a lot of reasons that we don't need to get into, 590 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,880 I think I think it on a lot of ways, Mike, he's more appealing 591 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,960 to the right than he is to the left. 592 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,320 I feel like he gets a lot of backlash from the left, and the 593 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,280 right kind of almost embraces him, which is an interesting 594 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,120 dynamic if you're trying to run as a Democrat. 595 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,640 He's doing stuff right now, Brandon, that that is so fraught 596 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:48,640 with peril because I'm telling you, when when our show in the 597 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,680 afternoon took a downturn, it was right around COVID and the 598 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,760 three of us got very, very political. 599 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,920 And people don't like people don't like that because 600 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,400 especially in talk radio. And you know, Peter is very, 601 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,640 very liberal. You know, he doesn't hide it. 602 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,480 And and Don and I at that time lean towards some liberal 603 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,320 things, although I wouldn't say we were liberal and people got 604 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,360 turned off. I think a lot of people are 605 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:17,040 listening to talk radio are male conservative men and we lost a 606 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,000 lot of people because we're going up against carton at that 607 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,200 time. And he leans the other way. 608 00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:24,960 And I think I think that really hurt us a great, great deal. 609 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,520 So that's that's my if if any young kid is on talk radio, 610 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,560 sports talk radio, asked me what I said. 611 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,840 Just stay away from politics. I never tip my hand whichever 612 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,200 way I lean, whatever and like they go. 613 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,640 Don't, don't, don't we deserve to know what you feel. 614 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,680 No, you shouldn't care what I feel. 615 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,520 If you would vote because of what Michael K feel, you're an 616 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,080 idiot. You don't deserve a vote. 617 00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:49,240 I'll vote the way I want to vote, and you don't have to 618 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,800 listen to it. And I never ever tip my hand 619 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,720 ever about which way I lean on things. 620 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,000 That's a small philosophy. You ever tell Peter to tone it 621 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,920 down during some of those times? Yeah. 622 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,920 Well, yeah, Tim McCarthy really thought it was going to hurt. 623 00:28:02,360 --> 00:28:04,040 And. And for the most part, people, 624 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,120 people look at Peter and they don't like Peter because they 625 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:09,520 might be on the other side of the political spectrum. 626 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,720 And Peter is very, very, very, very liberal. 627 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,080 And, you know, after the COVID stuff and there's so many things 628 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,880 that you you can lean one way or the other. 629 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,160 You know, Tim kept saying you got to stop. 630 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,040 You got to stop. And for the most part, Peter 631 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,040 just stop. But it's hard to separate the 632 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,200 personality on the air and the guy that's on Twitter, because 633 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,240 he's also there's a morning show with Ebro. 634 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,440 And on that he's very, very open about which way he leans. 635 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,800 So he might not talk about it on the sports talk show, but 636 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,360 everybody knows which way he leans. 637 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,520 But for a long time there, we got, we got away from it and we 638 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,000 got we got a lot of the audience back. 639 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,360 But Brandon, some of them never forgot. 640 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:48,680 I hear you. I got you. 641 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,360 Let me, Let me ask you about this. 642 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,880 So I've talked to you about this privately, a lot of text, you 643 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,600 know, and, and, and along the way, I think you have said that 644 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,920 you've got fairly thin skin with certain things. 645 00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:01,280 Is that is that a fair assertion? 646 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,200 Yeah, it's almost translucent. OK, why? 647 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,080 Why do you give a shit what somebody says on Twitter? 648 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,120 Why? I don't as much as I used to, 649 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,160 but I'm not going to lie and say that I I I totally don't. 650 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,280 I'm the type of person that if I'm walking down the street and 651 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,960 99 people say they love me and then one person goes you suck, 652 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,720 that's the one that will stay with me. 653 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,560 I don't know why. It's some wiring in my brain. 654 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,760 I don't need, I don't need one person examining me 655 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,480 psychologically. I need to go to Vienna and have 656 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,000 a full room of people 24 hours a day. 657 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,960 I don't think they could crack the code. 658 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,120 I maybe, maybe they're self loathing, maybe they're self 659 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,960 doubt, stuff like that. Maybe there's something in me 660 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,280 that has some kind of imposter syndrome. 661 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,080 Where do I deserve to have all the success that I've had? 662 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,400 And then there's that one person who says you're not good or 663 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,880 you're a fraud. That sticks with me. 664 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,840 Not as much as it used to. Used to drive me nuts and I used 665 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,800 to go back and forth with people to get me in trouble. 666 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,120 For the most part. I'll go back and forth having 667 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,920 fun now, but I don't get into any serious back and forth 668 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,880 because you can't win. Because if you have, if you lay 669 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,920 the big punch right, then they go, oh, look, you big tough guy 670 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,160 punching down. And then my answer is, I don't 671 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,120 feel like I'm punching down. You're equal to me. 672 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,960 Who am I? I'm not better than you. 673 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,920 So if you're going to throw a punch at me, I want to throw a 674 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,640 punch at you. I know that in the business that 675 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,600 we're in, you can't win that. That's why I scratched my head 676 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,480 at Kevin Durant. Although I understand that what 677 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,560 Kevin Durant is at the top of his industry and there are 678 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,520 people in their mom's basement with Cheeto dust in their 679 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,840 fingers saying that he's not a good player and it probably 680 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,560 drives him nuts. So he does burner accounts and 681 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,520 he answers people back. But then you kind of, but you're 682 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,120 Kevin Durant, You're one of the greatest players of all time. 683 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,720 But I know where he's coming from. 684 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,600 OK, I'm going to take a stab here at amateur psychologist, 685 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:06,280 all right, because you didn't grow up, you know, affluent and 686 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,680 and the way you grew up, blue collar Bronx grinding, 687 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,240 scrapping. I think you touched on it maybe 688 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:17,080 unknowingly to an extent. I think that that deep down you, 689 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,160 you, not that you don't think that you should be here, but 690 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,680 you've almost kept that, that Rocky mentality. 691 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,080 And I don't mean Rocky when he's in the mansion and he's got all 692 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,320 the money. I mean Rocky when he's hanging 693 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,240 out with the loan sharks, wearing the leather, hitting a 694 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,400 little paddle ball. I think there's, there's a 695 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,680 massive chunk of you that you can't, you can't like relent. 696 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,800 You just can't. You can't ignore that. 697 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,160 It it, it, you're just incapable of remembering where you came 698 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,480 from and you perceive A criticism or shot. 699 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,680 You take it probably more personally than most people. 700 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,960 And I think it's rude. Again, just to stay up here. 701 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,520 You tell me if I'm nuts. I think it's really rooted in 702 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,920 the way you were raised and how hard you had a fight to get to 703 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,840 where you got. Well, I was raised by, you know, 704 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,120 a dad who was really, really tough. 705 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,280 And, you know, he used to say, don't take any crap from 706 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,840 anybody. You know, I'll tell you a quick 707 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,360 story. We used to live on the 8th floor 708 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,640 of this 20 story building in the South Bronx. 709 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,320 And there was a kid that said something like from, you know, 710 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,240 he was in the parking lot, I was on the terrace. 711 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,280 And he, he said something derogatory toward me. 712 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,760 And I, I was up there. I didn't, you know, I didn't 713 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,520 react. And my father was in the, the 714 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,640 living room and heard it. And he said, did that guy just 715 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,240 say that? I said, yeah. 716 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,720 He goes, well, what are you going to do? 717 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,800 I said, what do you mean, what am I going to do? 718 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,160 He goes, you got 2 choices, he said. 719 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,400 You go down there and you kick the shit out of them or you stay 720 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,200 up here and I kick the shit out of you. 721 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,680 Those are your choices. That's freaking awesome. 722 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,560 Man, so I, I went downstairs on how to fight with the guy. 723 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:51,120 I, I think that you touch when you say humble beginnings, 724 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,200 Brandon, we didn't have money at all. 725 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,600 We, we would be, if you would look at you say we were poor, 726 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,560 really. I I never want to be poor again. 727 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,320 You're not going to be. So you're you're good in that 728 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,120 regard. But but in my mind, one person 729 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,880 jumps me and I what if and listen, there's people in our 730 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,360 industry that are really smart. There are some people that are 731 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,560 bosses that aren't smart and they listen to the way the wind 732 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,120 blows. So if one guy get like I would 733 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,840 push back at mush Nick and raceman and all that, because 734 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,960 there's one person, you could change their mind and all of a 735 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,480 sudden you're out of your job and all of a sudden you're 736 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,760 really, really poor again. I don't ever want to be really, 737 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,000 really poor again. And I think that's what drives 738 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,680 me. That's why I continue to work 739 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,120 the way I work. When I'm in my 60s, I should be 740 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,360 able to relax a little bit, but I don't want my kids to be poor 741 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:39,800 and I don't want to go back to that either. 742 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,080 What? What did the kid call? 743 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,080 Did he call you big head? What was he getting on you for? 744 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,240 I got a big ahead of that. I think it was like, you know, 745 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,480 it was something like a, it was like Kay is gay is something 746 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,080 like that. And my father said you go down 747 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,480 there and you kick the shit out of him. 748 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,800 And because that's just how my dad was. 749 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,480 My dad was a really, really tough guy. 750 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,120 And I, you know, I didn't want to, I didn't want to have him, 751 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,920 you know, going at me. So I went downstairs and I had a 752 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,800 fight with a guy. There, there's a third choice, 753 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,440 though, he said. You know, you either kick the 754 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,159 shit out of him or I kick the shit out of you. 755 00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:13,320 But the third choice is, and this is really more about life, 756 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,000 you could go down there and you could get your ass kicked by the 757 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,719 kid, but at least you stepped up and you tried. 758 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:18,480 But. That's fine. 759 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,679 That's what I'm saying. You all know he, as long as I 760 00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:24,440 fought, I mean, you know, he, he phrased it, you could go kick 761 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,960 the shit out of him. But the bottom line was I had a 762 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,679 fight. If somebody was going to say 763 00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:31,440 something to me like that, yeah, You can't just let them get away 764 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,280 with it. And maybe 50-60 years later, I 765 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,560 still think like that. If somebody's going to say 766 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,199 something pejorative about you, how are you going to just sit 767 00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:43,800 back and let it happen? But I, I, I've been better at 768 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,080 it. But it you know, there's times 769 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,960 that you still want to go down stairs and kick the shit out of 770 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,880 the person. By the way, scintillating 771 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,800 vocabulary, pejorative. Look at this guy. 772 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,600 The word, the words always flow for you. 773 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,560 Did you read a lot as a kid? Like I mean. 774 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,520 Yes, you did. Yeah, I did. 775 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,160 I did. I read all sports biographies so 776 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,120 that that's what that's what really interested me and my son 777 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,880 loves sports and I keep telling him I keep giving him books to 778 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,840 read and but he's always on his iPad looking at sports centered 779 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,960 stuff where he's learning that I said, Charlie, you got to read, 780 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,920 you got. But kids today, I don't know if 781 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,600 it's with you, your daughter and son as well. 782 00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:23,680 Similar hard time sitting down and reading because there's so 783 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,000 many other distractions. Yeah, it's funny. 784 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,360 My son, they're very different person that you've met my son, 785 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,840 you haven't met my daughter yet. You met Colt a couple times, but 786 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,480 he is like, he'll still do a lot of old school stuff. 787 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,080 Like he'll go in the playroom and he'll just crank up like 788 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,560 ACDC. His music is eclectic, a lot of 789 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:39,680 old school stuff, which is great. 790 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,280 He'll even go on YouTube and I'll hear the Saint John 791 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,960 starting lineup and then I'll just hear him ripping down the 792 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,520 Nerf hoop dunking like so he's not on the odd now he's eating. 793 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,560 We got him a phone, which was a debate in the house and he just 794 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:52,760 turned 11. We got it. 795 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,680 Whereas my daughter is probably a little bit more of a swiper, 796 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,120 not that he doesn't, but I also, I put an end to it. 797 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,560 Like, you know, we sit there and we say parents who say, well, my 798 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,880 kids always on the iPad, we'll take it out of their fucking 799 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:06,880 hands. You're the parent. 800 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,080 Like, I don't understand. And I know it's easier said than 801 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,000 done because there's such a connectivity to the brain and 802 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,520 there's, you know, doctors can talk about this better than me 803 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,880 and there's such an immediate reward and gratification for 804 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,320 swiping and seeing these visual things that explode off of a 805 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,480 screen. But any parent who is 806 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,880 incessantly complaining about the the the screen time, do 807 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,200 something about it. You're the parent. 808 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,080 Well, the the thing that we've done, if we have, we have a 13 809 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,480 year old daughter and Charlie is 11 and she's the only one of her 810 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:37,720 friends that doesn't have a phone. 811 00:36:37,720 --> 00:36:40,880 We will not give her a phone because it's poison. 812 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,040 It really is. And we are with the Antichrist 813 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,480 to her you're embarrassing me. All of my friends have phones. 814 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,080 I said, well, your friends parents are idiots and and Jody 815 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,200 yells at me and she said they're going to she's going to tell 816 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,480 them. And I said, but I want the 817 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,560 parents to come to me. I want them to and I want them 818 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,120 to say, why would you give? Because there's only bad things 819 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,080 on the phone. So the the way we relented was 820 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,760 so she can have contact with us. We got her an Apple Watch and 821 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,480 she hates it. It's not cool, it's not cool. 822 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,640 I said, but the phone is can you get in contact with mom and dad 823 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,160 if you need to be picked up? And half the time she doesn't 824 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,040 wear it. So I said the more every day 825 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,320 she'll ask for a phone. I said every day you ask, 826 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,600 there's five more days that you're not going to get it. 827 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,880 So we are the last ones that have held out without giving her 828 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,960 a phone. God bless you, the last one. 829 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,160 And the other parents go, I don't know how you do it. 830 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,400 I said they're kids, just tell them no, that's how. 831 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:33,920 You do it. That's what I'm saying. 832 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,280 Yeah. So I want to go back to 833 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,000 something you said before about, you know, the grind and, and 834 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,320 protecting what you have and how, how hard you had to fight 835 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,280 to get it and that underdog mentality and your dad and 836 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,200 everything that's rooted in you. I, I was thinking about this 837 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,520 when I, when I knew you were going to come on the show and 838 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,600 this could be a completely erroneous take or, or 839 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,240 positioning. I don't take this the wrong way. 840 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,320 I worry about you when you're done with the Yankees and like 841 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,720 you don't play golf. I remember you tell the story on 842 00:38:01,720 --> 00:38:03,720 the radio once that you played, I think you were doing a four to 843 00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:06,400 men IT game and you went you play golf and you were wearing 844 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,120 cowboy boots. So I I think that is. 845 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,160 Wow, you have some memory. I remember that man. 846 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,520 I mean the Bronx kid wearing boots. 847 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,720 In West Virginia. West Virginia. 848 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,600 Yeah. And like Michael Kay, I know 849 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,560 Jody's amazing and I, I you've got money, you're fine. 850 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,360 But like, without a lot of your identity is the voice of the 851 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:25,600 Yankees. It just is. 852 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,200 I mean, what are you going to do when you're not doing this 853 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,480 anymore? Are you going to be happy? 854 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,560 You know what people always say that you know, you'd be bored. 855 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,800 I, I'm never bored. You know, if you have an active 856 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,240 mind and there's so many things now that are out there that 857 00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:40,160 could, you should never be bored things that you could read 858 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,000 things online, then I mean, there's a constant source of 859 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,680 information. I, I love laying around doing 860 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,360 nothing. I would be, I think I'd be fine. 861 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,400 But I, I, you know, I don't think I'm going to keep up the 862 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,240 grind of doing both jobs for a long time. 863 00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:56,960 But I could see at some point, you know, saying, listen, I'll 864 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,600 do all the home games and I'll go to Boston anytime I, if I 865 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,800 don't have to get on a plane, I hate getting on planes. 866 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,680 So if I can do that, then I do 100 game. 867 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,120 Like what Howie Rose is doing that That's that's the perfect 868 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,680 solution. So you could do it for a long 869 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,760 time now. You know, I, I saw something 870 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:19,000 when Noah Eagle said, you know, if I'm still broadcasting at Al 871 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,040 Michael's age, you should slap me. 872 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,240 And I, I shook my head. I mean, I'm close with I and I 873 00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:26,280 don't know Noah. Don't say that, man. 874 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,320 You don't know. You have no idea. 875 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,320 And I remember I, I'm a big Bruce Springsteen fan and Bruce 876 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,600 Springsteen when he was like 40. I'll never be doing this. 877 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,960 Well, you are, you're 70 and you're still touring, so I'm 878 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,520 never going to say never. I don't think I'll be doing 879 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,600 games at, you know, 84 like John Sterling was. 880 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,040 But I don't know. I have no idea if you're in good 881 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,240 health. You know, I, I, if I was ever 882 00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:50,320 going to leave Brandon, it would have been now because of my kids 883 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,040 age, because I, I want to see them grow up. 884 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,560 And the, the way I reconcile it is, you know, the show I have 885 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,480 now on radio is, is 1 to 3. So they're in school. 886 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,400 I am here constantly during the winter, every single day. 887 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,000 How many dads could say that I'm there to pick them up from 888 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,040 school? I do all of their events, 889 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,800 everything. I, I'm part of it. 890 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,200 It's during baseball season where I disappear a little bit 891 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,280 and Charlie loves that and Cali doesn't. 892 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,840 But but in five years or six years when they're both in 893 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,160 college? Do I want to sit there and stare 894 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,560 at Jody all day, or will I still want to work? 895 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,080 I mean, she's pretty good looking. 896 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,120 What I understand, but after a while, you know, you stare at 897 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,120 the Mona Lisa, you're going to look at warts. 898 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:33,160 So I just, I just look at it and go maybe in five or six years 899 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,040 when they're in college, I want to continue to do it. 900 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,360 So I, I love the saying, you know, God laughs at those that 901 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,360 make plans. I'll just take it day by day. 902 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,040 There you go. That's a smart way to do it. 903 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,320 All right, let me ask you this. So when Soto jumps to the Mets, 904 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,120 you know, you know, God, the stuff that I had to put up with 905 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,880 Sal, I'm like, this is going to be torture, you know, And it is 906 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,480 what it is. It's fun and and you got to lean 907 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,480 into it. I, I really think I know that he 908 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,840 can, he can opt out of the Mets can match that in a bunch of 909 00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,160 years by adding more money, whatever. 910 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,600 So if they don't want him to leave, he's not. 911 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,280 But I think that they're going to lament that like every 912 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,000 eventually, like every long deal that is lamentable. 913 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,400 But I, I think in a weird way this is going to sound crazy, 914 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,280 maybe not for this year or last year, but I, I think almost the 915 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,560 Yankees or I don't want to say the word lucky that he chose the 916 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,840 Mets, but going to enable them to do a lot more. 917 00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:25,120 Do you do you think that that's crazy talk or is there something 918 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,080 to that? Well, I think it's crazy talk 919 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,040 for the these five years. Obviously he's, he's one of the 920 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,520 best hearers that we'll ever see. 921 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,760 And I and they wanted him. I, I, I think that how went far 922 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,640 and above what Brian was willing to do. 923 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,880 And but I think you hit on something really, really good. 924 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,720 Most long term contracts end poorly. 925 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,800 They just do. I mean people now without PED's, 926 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,240 they actually age and father Time beats them up and that's it 927 00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:53,720 and you're done. The Yankees offered one more 928 00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:55,600 year than the Mets. It was a 16 year deal. 929 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,840 So what's want? Soda going to be at 42, but I 930 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,320 don't think he could worry about that stuff. 931 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,720 I mean, Steve Cohen is closing it on 70 years old. 932 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,560 Do you think he's worried about the end of Juan Soto's contract? 933 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,800 So I, I think that was a, a big move for the Mets. 934 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,120 I think it was a loss for the Yankees and I think they pivoted 935 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,360 quite well. But I'm, I'm not going to sit 936 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,640 here and say it was a good thing for them because the, the 937 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,320 combination of Soto and Judge was, you know, once in a 938 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,400 generation sort of stuff. It was Ruth Gehrig. 939 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,360 It was that sort of thing. And I think Howe realized it, 940 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,160 realized the value of it. So for, you know, the first 941 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,840 seven years of that contract, I, I think they're going to miss 942 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:29,880 the fact that they don't have them. 943 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,520 I got you all right. So you know, everybody says with 944 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,240 Soto and and I'll, I'm he's an amazing hitter. 945 00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:37,800 He's he's great, right? Generational, transformative, 946 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,520 transcendent. Come on, man. 947 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,880 Now, I'm, I'm not saying that there aren't elements of that 948 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,120 that are true beyond base prowess and all that stuff, but 949 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,240 come on, we've seen so much baseball. 950 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:52,200 The guy who's truly generational is the guy who it's 3:20 with 40 951 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,640 bombs or 348 like Mickey or what Judge is doing. 952 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,080 I mean, generational, can you hit 310? 953 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,280 I mean, honestly, don't you think that some of those Soto 954 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,200 stuff is a little overstated, Mike? 955 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,120 Yeah, but I mean, I would push back and say you look at his 956 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,800 statistics, there's numbers that only Ted Williams has done. 957 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,680 I mean, his on base percentage, he's a different bird. 958 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,640 You know, he's he's not I I hear what you're saying. 959 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,760 He's not your prototypical guy that you'd say that's a 960 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,560 superstar 50 home runs. But I, I think I still think 961 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,200 those are going to come. I really do. 962 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,280 He had a great year hitting in front of Judge. 963 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,040 I mean, that was unbelievable protection where that was one of 964 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,240 the few times in his life that you go, I think I'd rather pitch 965 00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:34,320 the Soto then have to deal with Judge. 966 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,960 Judge has never had that protection and still has been 967 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,120 amazing. So I think Judge is better than 968 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,480 Soto, but but you know, just overall, he's a much better 969 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,160 player, a much better hitter. But Soto, Soto is special. 970 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,680 He he is special, I'm not going to lie. 971 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,040 And you don't want to piss off those BET fans again. 972 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,160 What is you with the you and the Mets fans? 973 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,880 I mean, you, you always have something going on with the Met 974 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,360 fans. Anything that I say about the 975 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,760 Mets, because, you know, Don and Peter hit me with Yankee Boy and 976 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,120 stuff like that, so they think that I'm jaundice. 977 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,480 And anytime. I mean, the Met fans have such 978 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:13,120 unbelievable love for their broadcast crew. 979 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,280 Yes, that that any, anybody else is just trash. 980 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,920 And so they look at me and they go, who is this guy? 981 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,760 He's not Gary. How could he open his mouth? 982 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,880 He has no, he has no, he has absolutely no right to say that. 983 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,000 And I, I tell him, this is not a Yankee show. 984 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,640 This is a, a sports show. I'm going to have comments about 985 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,480 the Mets. I mean, the thing that got me on 986 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,600 their bad side, Brandon, was when the, the, the, the Mets 987 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,200 came to Yankee Stadium from the, the Subway Series last year. 988 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:42,840 And I know a lot of people on the Met. 989 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,840 I mean, I'm close with a lot of people on the Mets without 990 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,880 getting specific about it. And I was told Soto's miserable, 991 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,560 man, he's miserable. And I was told that he wanted to 992 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,960 come back to the Yankees. And the family said, no, it's 993 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,040 got to be the Mets. And so I said this stuff and Oh 994 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,080 my God, and to this day. That was big. 995 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,960 That was a big, that was a big story, man. 996 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,440 And it and it was true. It was true. 997 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,560 Have you heard some of the stuff that Carlos Mendoza has said 998 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,360 publicly? You know, there was a time 999 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,040 there, he said that he was very down. 1000 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,960 And yeah, it was transitional. I didn't say it was going to 1001 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,640 last forever. It was tough. 1002 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,680 It was, I mean, the Mets are completely different animal than 1003 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,200 the Yankees. And if you look at Soto, Brandon 1004 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,520 Soto is a businessman. He's very serious about his 1005 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,600 craft. And the Yankees are very serious 1006 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,680 team. They come in, they prepare, they 1007 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,560 overwork, they, they, they, they, they, they cover every 1008 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,960 single base and you go into the Met clubhouse over the years, 1009 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,200 not just in the last year or so, they're more fun loving, they're 1010 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,000 freewheeling and stuff like that. 1011 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:48,080 Sonos all about that game, that night, his forward bats and the 1012 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,600 Yankees are a perfect situation for him and he probably realized 1013 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,520 that. And also he could be great and 1014 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,800 Aaron Judge was going to get all of the shine and Soto didn't 1015 00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,880 care. But with the Mets, he is the 1016 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:01,960 guy. So it was a little bit of a 1017 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,520 different adjustment, but I think he's going to be fine. 1018 00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:07,040 Yeah, he's definitely be fine. You mentioned the Mets broadcast 1019 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:11,000 team and I, I think what hurts, not the right word because the 1020 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,320 broadcast is still great, But one of the things that I think 1021 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,480 puts you at a bit of a disadvantage, and I'd love to 1022 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,160 hear your thoughts on this, is when Gary shows up, he knows 1023 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,680 he's got Ronnie and Keith or, or one of the two. 1024 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,160 You show up. And, and, and I won't name 1025 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,720 names. Some I think are much better 1026 00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:27,320 than others. I know that yes, kind of changed 1027 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,000 the roster going into this year, but I think your job is 1028 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,760 inherently tougher because you're working with so many 1029 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,760 different people. Well, it's funny because at the 1030 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,520 beginning of yes, we had, you know, remember the old Naked Gun 1031 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,200 line where they, they had people in the booth and Doctor Joyce 1032 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,280 Brothers, there was like 9 people in the booth. 1033 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,440 And you know, they felt like it kept it fresh when yes first 1034 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,840 started that, you know, all these different voices kept it 1035 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,800 fresh and you didn't know who you were going to get. 1036 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,480 And, and there's some validity to that. 1037 00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:55,600 But I think also baseball announcers are like your buddy. 1038 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,160 You're with them the whole summer. 1039 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,160 You know, you're with them when you're on the radio on the 1040 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,600 beach, you're with them in in the house at night. 1041 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,200 And I think sometimes it got a little, it flustered people a 1042 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,320 little bit, but I think it worked. 1043 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,640 I, I and people go, isn't it tough on you? 1044 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,520 Well, that's all I know. I mean that, that's all I know 1045 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,680 since I went into TV. That's all I know. 1046 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:15,920 This year it's going to be different. 1047 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,600 It's just going to be Coney, O'Neill and Girardi. 1048 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,280 That's it. It's just going to be 3 guys in 1049 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:21,960 the booth. And so when you tune in the 1050 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,880 game, you're going to know it's going to be one of those or two 1051 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,080 of those guys with me. And, and for 15 games that's 1052 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,000 going to be Ruco. So I, I, I, I just think that 1053 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,440 people like Gary, Ron and Keith because it's a great booth. 1054 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:38,360 But it's funny because I think Met fans love their broadcasters 1055 00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:40,520 actually more than they love their team at Time. 1056 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,640 Can you blame them? Half the time the team sucks. 1057 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,480 Well, well, the funny part is, is Gary, Gary is, is a fan and 1058 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,080 he's, he's very critical and I think he is, he's the voice of a 1059 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,240 lot of met fans like, so when he gets kicked off, it's obvious 1060 00:47:55,240 --> 00:47:57,000 that the fans are kicked off as well. 1061 00:47:57,240 --> 00:48:00,680 So I think that that they feel closer to the broadcast team 1062 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,040 than they do to the team. Yankee fans. 1063 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,560 I, I think they like the broadcasters. 1064 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,400 I think they like John, I think they like me, but we're not 1065 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,320 their be all end all. I think Met fans would actually 1066 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,640 go to war for Gary Ronneke. Yankee fans aren't like that. 1067 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,360 They're just not. There, there's a lot of truth, I 1068 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:19,880 think that that comes out of that. 1069 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,120 I don't disagree. All right, let's get to judge 1070 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,160 here. I listen, I was doing something 1071 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,120 on the show the other day and I was trying to find the origin of 1072 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:32,560 like when legacy conversation entered sports radio and 1073 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,320 everybody's vernacular and I, and I, I actually to me, it's 1074 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,560 not so much Michael Jordan, LeBron to me, it's really Tiger 1075 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,520 Woods and Jack because Tiger was doing what he was doing before 1076 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,080 LeBron burst on the scene. That's just my opinion. 1077 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,240 I don't know if it's right or wrong. 1078 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,240 And you know, one of the things that has spawned from legacies, 1079 00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:50,520 if you don't win a championship, you can't be considered an all 1080 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,600 time grade. Or if you get 2 championships as 1081 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,160 a quarterback, you're better than the guy who had won, even 1082 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:56,640 if he was out a lot better as a player. 1083 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,080 I listen. I hope he gets one. 1084 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,440 If Aaron Judge never wins a World Series, I don't want to 1085 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,960 hear from any, including you. I don't want to hear from 1086 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,000 anybody that he's not rude, that he's not Manuel, that he's not 1087 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,560 Garrick, that he's not DiMaggio, that he's not Yogi Berra. 1088 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,800 There is nobody on this planet that can tell me that those guys 1089 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,360 were better than Aaron Judge. I don't want to hear it. 1090 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,720 Well, it's funny, on on the show yesterday, I talked about how 1091 00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:23,280 he's underappreciated. He really is as great as he is. 1092 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,560 I think he's part of the furniture and we take him for 1093 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,840 granted. And on the radio show, you know, 1094 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,360 I get a lot of year, but because he hasn't won a championship 1095 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,720 now, I think he shut a lot of that up last year when he hit 1096 00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:35,440 600 in the post season. You couldn't get him out. 1097 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,320 But here's the way I look at it, Brandon. 1098 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,000 Yeah, you want to have that title. 1099 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,040 I know that. I know that's a big part of 1100 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,640 things. But I can't put that all on one 1101 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:49,320 person on a team sport. If you don't win a Grand Slam in 1102 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,920 tennis, it's on the tennis player, nobody else. 1103 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,680 If you don't win the Masters or the US Open in golf, it's on 1104 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,320 Phil Mickelson, it's on Rory McIlroy. 1105 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,880 If they don't win the World Series, you can't say it's on 1106 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,040 Aaron Judge. You can't say it was on Don 1107 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:05,640 Mattingly. Don Mattingly have enough 1108 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,440 pitching on that team. I mean, one of the greatest, the 1109 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,920 greatest hitter of all time is Ted Williams. 1110 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,800 He didn't win a World Series. I mean, Banks didn't win a World 1111 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:14,800 Series. I'm sorry. 1112 00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:16,800 Yeah. Is that a line on his resume 1113 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,520 that would be empty? Yes, it's not his fault. 1114 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,800 No, it's not his fault. He's been as great as you could 1115 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,600 possibly be. I agree and listen, I I think 1116 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:29,520 that there's also an elevation or or like it romanticizing. 1117 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,040 And listen, Willie Mays might be the greatest of all time and 1118 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,040 Ernie Banks, other names that you mentioned, Ted Williams, the 1119 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,040 greatest pure hitter. But people are very selective. 1120 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,000 And I went back and I looked at the numbers like everybody, like 1121 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,400 there's never a bad word. Not that there should be said 1122 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,880 about Willie Mays. Willie, Willie Mays small sample 1123 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,920 granted had a sub 700 OPS in the postseason. 1124 00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:50,760 You know, Ted Williams obviously was flying planes, fright and 1125 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,200 fighting for our country. So he missed time at his prime 1126 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,200 with World War 2 and he had a limited sample as well. 1127 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,720 His post season numbers were not very good. 1128 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,480 Like there's an illumination, there's a penalty to me of being 1129 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,040 a modern athlete. Everything was better back in 1130 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,600 the day. This guy was better. 1131 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,880 That was better. In a lot of ways the world may 1132 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,840 have been better, but specific to sports, I think it's a crock 1133 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:16,120 of shit and I think that the guys today, the great players, 1134 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,920 they are so micro analyzed and scrutinized that it's an 1135 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:24,520 unwinnable situation for him. It, it is it, it's, it's 1136 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,560 amazing. And, and I think in baseball, 1137 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,240 more so than any of the other sports, if, if you're a 1138 00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:31,840 quarterback and you want to be and you want to RIP a guy for 1139 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,160 not winning a Super Bowl, the quarterback does have the ball 1140 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,400 in his hand. If you want to say, well, LeBron 1141 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,760 hasn't won as many championships as Jordan. 1142 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,880 He does have the ball in his hand at the end of the game. 1143 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,320 And baseball, and I think this is this is a flaw in baseball 1144 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,160 that hurts it. The best players on the team 1145 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,920 might not come up in a game where you're trying by one run 1146 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,080 in the ninth in and. By the way, like even if they 1147 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,000 do, you might walk them. That's right. 1148 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:55,520 That's right. And you could pitch around them 1149 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,680 without walking and then they expand the strike zone. 1150 00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,440 I mean, you played in college, you actually know what the 1151 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,680 game's about. There's ways to get around guys 1152 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:06,120 where where they can't hurt you. So I just think of all the 1153 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,400 sports, baseball is the Ultimate Team sport where if you don't 1154 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,160 have pitching, if you don't have other hitters around you, you 1155 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:14,600 could be the greatest player in the world. 1156 00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:17,720 You could hit 1000 and you still might not win a championship. 1157 00:52:17,720 --> 00:52:19,400 So I'm not going to hang that on him. 1158 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,240 I'm just not. And you know, even before last 1159 00:52:23,240 --> 00:52:25,240 year, the narrative was he wasn't good in the postseason. 1160 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,400 He had a lot of big hits in the postseason. 1161 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,960 The home runner for Class A was a huge hit against the Guardians 1162 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:33,960 in the year that they went to the World Series. 1163 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,400 So it would stand it as well. That was phenomenal. 1164 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,160 Absolutely so. And then last year he finally 1165 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,320 did it all, hitting 600, but it still wasn't enough. 1166 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,040 Because you know why it wasn't enough? 1167 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,360 Because Rodan and Freed got slapped around in the series 1168 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,800 against the Blue Jays. So if they had done their job, 1169 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,600 maybe Judge would have been in the ALCS against the Mariners. 1170 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:54,680 And then he gets to the World Series. 1171 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:58,040 Again, we have no idea. So he's still, he's one of the 1172 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,080 greatest players that we'll ever see and I think he should be 1173 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,040 really greatly appreciated. And he's he's about as high a 1174 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,080 character person as you could possibly have. 1175 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,440 He is tremendous. And it's unbelievable, too. 1176 00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:09,040 Yeah. The big, the big thing. 1177 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:09,960 Yesterday, he was getting ripped. 1178 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,960 He didn't give a great emotional speech. 1179 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,840 That's what I'm saying. He's not Winston Churchill, OK. 1180 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,400 And the the guy was beloved in New York City is Derek Jeter. 1181 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,120 Derek Jeter was not any guy either. 1182 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:24,840 And everybody saw what a great leader. 1183 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,320 And he was a leader because people could follow the way he 1184 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:31,320 worked. But the the the the guy who was 1185 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:36,240 his consiglieri was Posada. I mean, you you can be a leader, 1186 00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:38,640 but you have to have a guy who like will get up in somebody's 1187 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,560 face and grab him by the neck. That was Posada. 1188 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,160 But Posada didn't have the the captain's title. 1189 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,400 So I look at that stuff and I laugh at it. 1190 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,200 You know, they tell him stand up and say something to the team. 1191 00:53:49,240 --> 00:53:51,120 First of all, he doesn't even know all of them. 1192 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,160 So he is he going to give a fire and brimstone speech? 1193 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,240 But again, we're always looking to pick apart everything about a 1194 00:53:57,240 --> 00:54:00,480 guy who's about as close to a perfect player as we've seen. 1195 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,680 Yeah, there's no doubt. I mean, he does everything and 1196 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,400 and the other thing too. I got a couple of quick hits 1197 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,480 before I let you go. All Yankee stuff, right? 1198 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,000 Some roster things and then quick projections for the year. 1199 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,680 But you think about like the 777018. 1200 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,080 They couldn't stand each other, but Thurman was an ass kicker. 1201 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,920 Lou Nettles, I mean, they held each other accountable. 1202 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,280 Goose, right? Obviously the dynasty teams 96 1203 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,480 and so on. Tino was an ass kicker. 1204 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,480 Posada the 2 championships after Girardi was the catcher. 1205 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:30,000 O'Neal was a firecracker. I don't, you know, my God first, 1206 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,680 I don't know if the Yankees are good enough to win the World 1207 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,240 Series right now. I don't think that they are 1208 00:54:33,240 --> 00:54:35,440 right now if Cole comes back healthy and that that could 1209 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,280 change things. I don't know if they got enough 1210 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,200 dogs on the team. Like do they have enough of 1211 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,920 those guys that, you know, when when things really get tense and 1212 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,600 tight and tough and they got to shred somebody in the clubhouse 1213 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,400 or there's a fight or anything, Do they have enough of those 1214 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,320 guys? I don't think that they do. 1215 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,320 Do you? I, I, I think that's a little 1216 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:57,160 overblown because if you look at the, the Dodgers, who's the DAWG 1217 00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,160 on the Dodgers? I mean, they're just really good 1218 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,360 players. So I just think that when you 1219 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,560 show up in postseason, people think you're a dog. 1220 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,000 And if you don't show up in the postseason, people who think 1221 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,000 you're a DOG. So I, I don't, I don't know what 1222 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,280 to say. I think they're good enough. 1223 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,840 I think that if they if they played a cleaner game, they 1224 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,840 would have been the Champions in 2024. 1225 00:55:17,720 --> 00:55:20,400 You know, game one and game five turn the whole series around. 1226 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,120 I think they're good enough to win the American League. 1227 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,400 I don't worry about the Dodgers. They get to the World Series. 1228 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,920 Let's say they win and right now I've got them low 90s. 1229 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,200 That could be more with the pitching because the rotation, I 1230 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,840 think the rotation could be the best in baseball by middle of 1231 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,880 the season forward when guys get back in and they reclaim their 1232 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,280 stuff. And I love them and you know, I 1233 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,000 love them and I'm friends with them and I know you love them as 1234 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,160 well. If if there's a quick bounce 1235 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,400 from the postseason. Is this it for Boone this year? 1236 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,920 It could happen. I mean, I, I think it could 1237 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,320 happen. He has only one year left. 1238 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,320 How doesn't like to pay people for not working. 1239 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,040 And I never thought he was going to let go last year. 1240 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:57,520 You know, people, people on my show. 1241 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,800 I don't know if it was like this with you and Sal in order. 1242 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,680 They hate Cashman, they hate Boone. 1243 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,600 And then how? Yes, that's that's the order 1244 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,520 that's universal. And I think the how criticism is 1245 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:09,720 ridiculous. Oh, he's cheap. 1246 00:56:09,720 --> 00:56:11,440 He's not cheap. Oh, he doesn't want to win. 1247 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,040 He desperately wants to win. He's just not his dad. 1248 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,640 That's a hard act to follow. I think Boone is a good manager. 1249 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,920 I think it's tough to win. I think, I think it's just 1250 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,800 really, really, really tough to win. 1251 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,520 And he has sometimes he's had imperfect teams. 1252 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,680 I think if you asked him which one he takes the hardest, it 1253 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,600 would be last year, you know, just sitting next to him on the 1254 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,400 bench before games, You know, in September last year, I've never 1255 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,760 seen him so pumped up. He thought that team was going 1256 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,560 to win the World Series. That was the best team he said 1257 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:41,720 he's ever had. He said it. 1258 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,200 I know. And so I think he feels the same 1259 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:48,240 way now because you add a full year of Schlittler and, and you 1260 00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:51,360 know, Rodon, not Rodon, but Cole comes back in June. 1261 00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,040 So he's got to feel the same way again. 1262 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,040 You know, people criticize them for running it back. 1263 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,560 Well, if you really love the team last year, why wouldn't you 1264 00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,400 run it back? So they've run it back and 1265 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,920 they've added Weathers. And you know, I think that they 1266 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,440 did their heavy lifting last year, Brandon at the trade 1267 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,440 deadline, that was their offseason. 1268 00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:09,240 They got Bednar, they got Duvall, they got Bird, they got 1269 00:57:09,240 --> 00:57:12,600 Rosario, they got they changed the team a lot and that's why 1270 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,560 they loved it so much. So I don't think they felt like 1271 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,680 they they would have had to make a pivot if they lost Bellinger. 1272 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,840 And I think that the thought of losing Bellinger made them give 1273 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,600 the qualifying offer to Grisham because they couldn't have lost 1274 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,000 both of them. That would have been two holes 1275 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,840 to fill. Don't get me going on Grisham. 1276 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,960 I I know what he did 34. I know he can't bat lead off. 1277 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,760 There is no way in any universe Trent Grisham could be the lead 1278 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,480 off hitter on a team that's going to win the World Series. 1279 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,440 You just can't have it, Mike. He can't be the lead off hitter. 1280 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,480 I. Just think he but I think lead 1281 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,000 off hitters are different than they used to be. 1282 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,520 I, I know, I I've heard. Not for the Dodgers. 1283 00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,560 They got Ohtani. The Yankees have Grisham. 1284 00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,600 Yeah, I, it's I, I told Boone about it. 1285 00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,360 He goes, well, who do you, who do you think should lead off? 1286 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:55,600 I said. So somebody like a Ricky 1287 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,800 Henderson, he said. You just brought the greatest 1288 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,320 lead off hitter in the history of baseball into the 1289 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,000 conversation. That guy doesn't exist. 1290 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,360 Yes, we don't have Ricky Henderson, he said. 1291 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,760 Of all the people we have, we think that Grisham is best 1292 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,520 suited to lead off. Yeah, I I respectfully disagree. 1293 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:10,760 Boone tells me that he'll text me. 1294 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,520 He's like when I'm getting on Grisham and and I love the guy, 1295 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,200 but I'm never going to agree with him on that. 1296 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:16,680 All right, couple of quick hitters. 1297 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,000 This one's going to be easy because I know the answer. 1298 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,360 Jones not making the team right. No chance 0. 1299 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:22,560 No. None. 1300 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,400 OK, what about Dominguez? No. 1301 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:27,640 That's good. You see, that's what fucking 1302 00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,320 drives me nuts about this. I know he doesn't hit as a 1303 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,040 righty. I know he was a bit of a butcher 1304 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,360 in the outfield. He stole 20 bases. 1305 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,160 He didn't hit 209. He basically at 2:50. 1306 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,200 I thought there'd be some more easy power last year, which I 1307 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,480 think will come this year if he ever gets called up again. 1308 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:47,000 But to me, like, that is one of my fundamental inherent issues 1309 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,840 with the Yankees. They either overvalue prospects, 1310 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,640 right? Or, or, or they just don't give 1311 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:56,960 guys enough of, of a runway to show what they got. 1312 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,000 How are you going to send? I know the I think that you're 1313 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,760 right, but how are you going to justify sending him to the 1314 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,720 minors? He's a Major League player, 1315 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,880 Mike. He is a Major League player, but 1316 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,720 you've you've got $20 million into $22 million into Grisham, 1317 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:14,000 42 and a half, $1,000,000 into Bellinger and then there's Judge 1318 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:15,800 and then you got there's no place to play him. 1319 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,720 So the reason why he goes to the minors, you're going to retard 1320 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,760 his growth. If you bring him into the big 1321 00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,040 leagues and he has 125 played appearances. 1322 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,400 That's not good for him either. He's only 23 years old. 1323 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,040 And I, I agree with you. I love his base running. 1324 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,240 He's energetic, he's got a great attitude. 1325 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,520 I think he could still be a very, very good player. 1326 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,840 I think the biggest strike he had against him, and it's going 1327 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,920 to sound dumb and I think Joel Sherman wrote about this couple 1328 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,160 weeks ago, he got saddled with that stupid nickname, the 1329 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,320 Marshall and everybody thought he was good. 1330 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,280 And it's almost the same thing with the Knicks. 1331 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,360 We judge McHale Bridges because they gave, they were stupid 1332 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,680 enough to give five first round draft picks for him. 1333 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,240 If they didn't, you wouldn't think he was that bad of a 1334 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:55,880 player. We love the fourth option, 1335 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,360 right? We try to make him measure up 1336 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,720 the five. We try to make Dominguez measure 1337 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,640 up to. The Martian, He's not the 1338 01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,440 Martian. He's a good player. 1339 01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,480 He could be a really good player for a long time. 1340 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,920 Is he a superstar? I don't know. 1341 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,400 If you can't hit righties and you can't play defense, I don't 1342 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,640 think he can be a superstar. No, I agree. 1343 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:15,240 All right, Few quick hitters here. 1344 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,800 When Volpe comes back, Caballero's going to get some 1345 01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,600 run. I know McMahon's taking some 1346 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:21,920 reps at shortstop. It's obviously going to be 1347 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,400 different this year if Volpe does not radically change his 1348 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,320 approach and his numbers. I mean, you, you can't. 1349 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:29,880 And I love the kid. You can't keep running them out 1350 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:31,200 there. I mean, the leash has to be 1351 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,520 shorter this year, right Mike? I would think. 1352 01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,200 But they do love them. They do. 1353 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,880 They just love them. I mean, the the Boone's one of 1354 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,320 the nicest guys you've ever met, and I think you'd feel the same 1355 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,600 way. So it was at Citi Field last 1356 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:49,480 year and Meredith asked him a question about Volpe because the 1357 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,400 defensive metrics were down. And he answered the question. 1358 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:53,920 He got really, really angry on the podium. 1359 01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,760 And then he's walking up the podium and he looks at Meredith 1360 01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:00,600 and he goes, he's effing elite. Do you understand me? 1361 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:04,320 He's effing elite. So he feels very strongly about 1362 01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,080 Pulpy. So I asked Boone over the 1363 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:07,880 winner, talking with him privately. 1364 01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,160 I said, what happens if Caballero's hitting 350 at the 1365 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:14,600 end of April and then Judge is ready to come, Pulpy's ready to 1366 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,440 come back. Is Volpy getting a job? 1367 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,160 He said let's see when Caballero's hitting 350. 1368 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,560 Yeah, I mean. I think Volpe still gets the job 1369 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:26,240 and and what they will say is Calvaro's values that he plays 1370 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:27,840 all around. He'll still get a batch. 1371 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,160 Which I don't disagree with. I mean, I remember his first 1372 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,560 game, one of his first games in Tampa, he let that pace hit go 1373 01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,920 under his glove in the outfield like, but no, he he can run, 1374 01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:37,720 He's got good value grinder, good energy. 1375 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:46,000 I like Calvary. Heard from people in the 1376 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,000 Yankees. I don't claim to have the the 1377 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,720 contacts that you do obviously, but there's no way they are 1378 01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,720 going to sign Jazz to a long term extension. 1379 01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,440 The element of trust is not quite there. 1380 01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,120 I agree with that. He's always swinging for the 1381 01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,560 fences. It's one thing to aspire to go 1382 01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:05,600 5050, but what are you leaving on the table in terms of on base 1383 01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,720 and average as you pursue that? I don't think he's going to be 1384 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,320 with the Yankees many more years. 1385 01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:14,040 Do you disagree with that? Well, when, you know, I did a 1386 01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,120 spring training game with Girardi last week and he said 1387 01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:20,600 the 5050 scares me for the reason you just said, because 1388 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,440 then you you're not going to do the things that you should be 1389 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,040 doing. He said just accept being 3030 1390 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,360 and if he gets to 4040 and still be that player, that's amazing. 1391 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,440 Jazz might be the best athlete on the team. 1392 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,360 I don't disagree. He's phenomenal, great athlete. 1393 01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,400 But he's very, you know, he's a different bird. 1394 01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,120 And when he came out in spring training and said that he 1395 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:45,000 expects an 8 to 10 year contract at $35 million a year, He's not 1396 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:46,560 he's not getting that from the Yankees. 1397 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,960 And remember one thing, Brad. You know, from anybody, Mike. 1398 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,360 When they when they got him from the, when they got him from the 1399 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,720 Marlins, there wasn't any teams lined up to get him. 1400 01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,680 I know the Yankees took a chance and said, listen, you could be 1401 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,200 yourself. And it's, I think it's worked 1402 01:02:58,200 --> 01:02:59,960 for both parties. He's been great with the 1403 01:02:59,960 --> 01:03:01,440 Yankees. He really has. 1404 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,440 But there there's no way they would commit to 8 to 10 years of 1405 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,880 that kind of money. Over under to just give me quick 1406 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,520 answers Over under Austin Wells home runs 2525 or less. 1407 01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:16,600 I think he's going to hit 24. Judge is healthy. 1408 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:20,720 This judge hit 55 or more. That's so hard to do. 1409 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:24,200 I'd say hits 53. Garrett Cole, does he look at 1410 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,960 some point this year like the old Garrett Cole, like Cy Young? 1411 01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:31,040 I I agree with that. Cam Schlittler, who's he reminds 1412 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:35,000 you of? That's a tough one cuz if he was 1413 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,520 a lefty, maybe Randy Johnson. It's like, you know, cuz he's 1414 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:39,080 longer. That's a tough one. 1415 01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:40,400 I don't even have a real great comp. 1416 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:45,640 Anybody pop into your head? Almost like just features wise. 1417 01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,960 Mark fidgets going way back the bird. 1418 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,640 Yeah, but I I think Schlittler could be really special. 1419 01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,440 I don't, I don't think he's a flash in the pan. 1420 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,680 The only thing that could get in his way if he's not healthy. 1421 01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,920 Yeah, I I actually think between Schlittler and McClain with the 1422 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,840 Mets, like, listen, you know, back in the day, like when 1423 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,480 people would walk up and buy ticket sales, like when Fernando 1424 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,280 was pitching or Doc Gooding. I don't know if it's quite going 1425 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,280 to be that way because both stadiums are pretty much always 1426 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,600 full at this point. The the Mets fans showed up last 1427 01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:12,800 year and the Yankees are always there. 1428 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,400 But when those guys pitch it, it's it's going to be like a 1429 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,200 rock concert. I think they're both the real 1430 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:18,720 deal. I totally agree. 1431 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,800 To me, I don't know if it's going to happen right away. 1432 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:23,120 Ben Rice should be hitting third. 1433 01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,000 I think Ben Rice is a future star with the bat. 1434 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,880 Where you at with that? So if he's hitting third, 1435 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:30,640 where's Judge hitting clean up one second you can. 1436 01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,720 Put him two and then put Belly. I know you got Lefty lefty if 1437 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:37,160 you go Rice and then Belly 4, but how about how about this? 1438 01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,920 How about Bellinger hit first? I know that they won't do this, 1439 01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:44,080 but more so than Grisham. Belly 1, Judge 2. 1440 01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,880 Rice 3. Stanton four. 1441 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:48,240 And then fill things out from there. 1442 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:52,000 Why not not not bad. I, I have high, high aspirations 1443 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,920 for for Rice. I think he could be really, 1444 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,800 really outstanding. The Yankees have a diamond in 1445 01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:56,800 the rough. Yes. 1446 01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,760 I, I never liked to hit even even when it comes to Grisham 1447 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,760 getting back to what you said, 34 home runs and if you put 1448 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:07,080 Bellinger at the lead off spot, what he had 29 last year. 1449 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:08,880 I've, I've, I said this to Boone. 1450 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,560 I said, why do you want a guy who's leading off being a home 1451 01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,840 run hitter that 1/4 of his bats during the year he comes up with 1452 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,800 nobody on 1/4 of his batch is leading off the game. 1453 01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:19,840 He. Said, well, you could. 1454 01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,120 You can also get out to A1 nothing lead in the game. 1455 01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,520 I said, yeah, I I get it, but you're leaving a lot of RBIs on 1456 01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,560 the table. I mean, they they, they played 1457 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:29,120 around with Judge leading off too. 1458 01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,280 I don't want that. I just don't want because if, if 1459 01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,520 there's a weakness to the Yankee offense, the bottom of the order 1460 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:35,960 is not as stout as the beginning. 1461 01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,480 So that means that the the lead off hitter is coming up without 1462 01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,400 anybody on base. True, true. 1463 01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,360 We all know it's Bobby Mercer, your all time favorite Yankee. 1464 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,600 Rest in peace, Bobby. I would assume Bounty's too. 1465 01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,640 Who's your next favorite Yankee all time? 1466 01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,480 That that that that you watched play or covered? 1467 01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,400 Not like Ruth or one of those guys. 1468 01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,720 Wow. Probably Thurman. 1469 01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,000 Thurman. I never saw Thurman play. 1470 01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:04,280 You know what's ironic about that? 1471 01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,120 I never recollect watching Thurman play a game. 1472 01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,800 I just don't. I was 5 when he when he passed 1473 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,080 away and when he was killed on in 79. 1474 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,960 But what I do remember very vividly, like it was almost 1475 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:20,800 yesterday, sitting on my parents bed and watching the ceremony, I 1476 01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:24,360 guess was on pix at that point and seeing the empty home plate 1477 01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:25,960 and then Bobby having the game winner off. 1478 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:27,520 I think they were playing the Orioles that night if I'm not 1479 01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:29,800 mistaken. And isn't that crazy? 1480 01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,120 I never and and I remember watching like a little bit of 1481 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,280 Reggie, like little snippets of medals and and Guidry and Goose. 1482 01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,880 I don't remember Thurman ever taken in that bat, but I 1483 01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,040 remember the ceremony when he got killed. 1484 01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,000 Yeah, because, you know, growing up a growing up a Yankee fan, 1485 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,360 you know, nobody could ever call me a front runner because when I 1486 01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,080 really started liking the Yankees, they were awful. 1487 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:48,800 And he was part of the transition. 1488 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,680 He was on that team that was awful. 1489 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,480 It's almost like what Bernie is with the later day Yankees. 1490 01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:54,960 Bernie was on the one. They were awful. 1491 01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:56,600 And then he was a big part of it. 1492 01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:00,920 And for people that are younger listening, and maybe I'm sure 1493 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,960 you've seen it, the the home run that Thurman hit in the playoffs 1494 01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,880 against the Royals and Doug Byrd, it's unbelievable. 1495 01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:10,800 I mean, that's when Monument Park was like 450 three feet 1496 01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,800 away and the ball just kept going and going and going and it 1497 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,360 was a huge home run. And that's one of those guys, 1498 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,680 Brandon, that I'm glad I didn't cover because he was really 1499 01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:21,320 prickly. Yeah, he was heard. 1500 01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,800 He's not great with the media, so that I'm glad I got to just 1501 01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:28,280 enjoy him as a fan And I and I've become really close friends 1502 01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,280 with his wife, who is the sweetest woman that you'll ever 1503 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,280 want to meet. And you know, she keeps his 1504 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,560 memory alive with his foundation and stuff like that. 1505 01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:37,720 But I never really got to know Thurman at all. 1506 01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,600 I love when I see her getting the flowers at Old timers. 1507 01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:41,720 Diana. Diana writes. 1508 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:42,960 Her name? Diana, Yeah. 1509 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,280 Are you a Reggie guy? Do you like Reggie? 1510 01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,400 I liked him as a player. He's, you know, sometimes he's 1511 01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,800 difficult to get along with. The times that I talked to him 1512 01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:52,960 and like you, you just go, I'm talking to Reggie Jackson. 1513 01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,360 It's so great. And there's times that, you 1514 01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,120 know, he gets in moods and stuff like that. 1515 01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:00,840 But you know, I think he was, you know, he was an unbelievable 1516 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,320 player. He's one of those guys though. 1517 01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,440 I just don't think that somebody who played five years for a team 1518 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,600 should have the number retired. But I agree, have the number 1519 01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:09,040 retired. Yeah, we're getting a little off 1520 01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:10,920 with this. Now, I'm not going to disparage 1521 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,320 CC, but you can even make the, I don't know if you could, you 1522 01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,040 could make a little bit of a case that even that's except 1523 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:18,240 like what? Come on. 1524 01:08:19,359 --> 01:08:21,600 Well, he did win a championship with them and he was with them 1525 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,520 longer than you would think. I think it was 12 years. 1526 01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,240 He was a Yankee. He was a big part of that team. 1527 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,200 So I, I don't have that much of an argument about his not 1528 01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:34,479 because once you start retiring guys that, that you've, you've 1529 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,399 put up on that wall that, that they're, they're not Ruth, 1530 01:08:37,399 --> 01:08:39,960 Garrett, DiMaggio, Mantle, Whitey Ford. 1531 01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:43,479 Then I think you've opened the door for guys like CC and Paul 1532 01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:46,680 O'Neill and and Posada and and Bernie to get in. 1533 01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,800 You know, you, you, there's a lot of people. 1534 01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:50,399 I think only people are in the Hall of Fame that won 1535 01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:53,120 championships should be up there, but they've gone beyond 1536 01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:53,960 that. Fair enough. 1537 01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,000 All right, Last thing. So I'm sure you passed this for 1538 01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:00,120 the most part, but when there's a big moment and you know the 1539 01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,640 whole world's going to hear you call, you know it like it the 1540 01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:07,279 strikeout or a judges up guys on World Series, you get nervous 1541 01:09:07,279 --> 01:09:09,640 like in your mind you're like, man, I got to nail this. 1542 01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,319 Have to. I do. 1543 01:09:12,399 --> 01:09:16,399 I do, and I not for the reason that you think I get nervous 1544 01:09:16,399 --> 01:09:20,439 because that call is going to be attached to that person for the 1545 01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,560 rest of their life. And if I screw it up, it's going 1546 01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,960 to be that I screwed it up. That's going to be part of the 1547 01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:27,960 conversation rather than just their greatness. 1548 01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:31,439 The last time I felt like that was Judge's 62nd home run. 1549 01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:36,520 I mean, I, I didn't, I didn't enjoy that at all. 1550 01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,319 I was nervous. I just thought, you can't blow 1551 01:09:39,319 --> 01:09:40,479 this. You just can't. 1552 01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:45,880 People are sending me emails of calls that I, I, I never plan a 1553 01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:47,439 call. I just think that you screw up 1554 01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,120 if you do that. Yeah, I've heard you say that 1555 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:49,960 before. I believe it. 1556 01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:51,520 Not everybody does, but I've heard you say that. 1557 01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,360 Yeah, and you know, and there, there are great broadcasters in 1558 01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,080 our industry that you could hear it. 1559 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,560 They plan the call. I mean, it's written down on a 1560 01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:01,560 card in front of them. I I've never done that and 1561 01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,400 luckily I haven't found anything up. 1562 01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:07,360 But yeah, the judge, when I felt I felt more nervous about that 1563 01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:08,800 than even doing World Series games. 1564 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:12,480 And the best compliment I got was he hit the home run. 1565 01:10:12,480 --> 01:10:14,600 It was the day before the last game of the year. 1566 01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,320 And we were in Texas. And I went down to the clubhouse 1567 01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,960 that day and he was talking to a couple of reporters. 1568 01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,120 And he he he told the reporters, excuse me. 1569 01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,600 And he walked up to me. I was in the middle of 1570 01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:27,040 clubhouse. I didn't go down to talk to him. 1571 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:30,360 I just went down to, you know, and he said, you did a great job 1572 01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,480 on that. And I really appreciate that and 1573 01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:35,360 that that meant the world to me because I don't want to screw up 1574 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:39,080 their moment by being stumbling or bumbling or saying something 1575 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,280 stupid. So I'm I'm not looking to be the 1576 01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,400 story at all. I just don't want to be the 1577 01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,200 story on the negative end where I take away from there, Sean. 1578 01:10:46,480 --> 01:10:48,840 Well, listen, I'm trying. It's been a phenomenal chat, but 1579 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,400 not an interview. Great conversation. 1580 01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,600 You know I love you. Since I'm starting out this new 1581 01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,080 platform, I could use a little poppy or make some news. 1582 01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,120 You talk about scripting stuff, Gary Cohen script anything. 1583 01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:00,680 I don't know. I've never I, I don't think so. 1584 01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:02,080 I, I don't think Gary Scripts did. 1585 01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,600 I'll tell you one thing that came close to a script for me. 1586 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,360 You think Gary Scripts did? I don't think he does, but if if 1587 01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,480 you if I found out that he did, I wouldn't be surprised if it's 1588 01:11:10,480 --> 01:11:11,600 something. And he's great. 1589 01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,680 Mechanically, he's terrific. Sometimes it sounds a little 1590 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,600 scripty. Yeah, I, I, I, I've never sensed 1591 01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,120 that with him. I've never, I mean, I sensed 1592 01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:22,320 that with, you know, some national guys, which I'm, I'm 1593 01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,840 not going to disparage them, but the closest I ever came to 1594 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:29,040 scripting things was Jeter's 3000 hit. 1595 01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:31,520 Now you're going to think I'm out of my mind. 1596 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:33,920 So that was. That was something that was on 1597 01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:38,480 my mind leading up to the time, but I didn't want to script it. 1598 01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,640 And who would know that he was going to hit a home run right 1599 01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,520 for a 3000 hit? And the night before I'm 1600 01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:49,520 sleeping and I'm dreaming that he hits a home run for a 3000 1601 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,040 hit. I have a dream and I'm 1602 01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:56,200 announcing the game in my dream and in the in my dream, when I'm 1603 01:11:56,200 --> 01:12:00,920 announcing it, Brandon, I say history with an exclamation 1604 01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,080 point. Wow. 1605 01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:08,560 I wake up, go to the ballpark, he hits a home run and all of a 1606 01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:10,720 sudden I go back and I'm thinking about what I dreamt 1607 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,280 about and it comes out of my mouth history with an 1608 01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,520 exclamation point. But it wasn't written. 1609 01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:17,760 It wasn't written. It was a plan. 1610 01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,320 I had dreamed it. How freaky is that? 1611 01:12:20,440 --> 01:12:22,640 I had dreamed that I was going to say that. 1612 01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:24,560 And he was going to a home run for a 3000 hit. 1613 01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,880 Yeah, by the way, man, like, I remember, remember that. 1614 01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:28,600 You can't tell this. Remember the time I walked into 1615 01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,000 the bar on crutches, that time Joey was there when we were up 1616 01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:34,640 on the Upper West Side. I I, I know and I remember I 1617 01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:35,960 said something when I walked in the ball. 1618 01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,160 You you know the story that I'm maybe it, maybe you're 1619 01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,720 forgetting it. So I say that because talking 1620 01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,480 about your dreams, I know you off the air and you're a 1621 01:12:43,480 --> 01:12:45,720 freaking crazy cat in a good way. 1622 01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:47,840 So I'm sure some of those dreams are fucked up. 1623 01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,120 Not just not just the Jeter home runs. 1624 01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,640 We got to get some other of those dreams on the record at 1625 01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:53,960 some point. But I'm gonna let you go. 1626 01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,400 I have to go myself as well. I got to get out to Saint John's 1627 01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,120 and record the show with Rick. So I can't thank you enough. 1628 01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:00,040 Dude. It's been a pleasure. 1629 01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,400 It's been an honor. You know, I consider you a 1630 01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:03,560 friend. It was great seeing you at 1631 01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,560 Alex's party. And you know, the trolls, fuck 1632 01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:07,880 them. Everybody knows that at this 1633 01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:09,320 point. Just keep doing what you do and 1634 01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:10,960 you're going to be in the Hall of Fame someday. 1635 01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:12,280 You know, don't even answer that. 1636 01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:14,360 You're going to be. Well, I will tell you this, just 1637 01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,880 give me a second. I, I am so proud of the way 1638 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,040 you've pivoted. You know what was done to you 1639 01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,480 and Sal, I said it on the air. I couldn't believe how you guys 1640 01:13:21,480 --> 01:13:25,040 reacted to two weeks knowing it. And you did unbelievable shows. 1641 01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:28,040 And then when I saw you at Alex's party and you had already 1642 01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:31,880 started this, I said, dude, you just, I can't waste time. 1643 01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:35,160 I mean, the way you've pivoted, it's the way Brian Cashman 1644 01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,880 pivoted when they lost Soto. So I'm really proud of you and I 1645 01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:39,200 hope this is a huge success for you. 1646 01:13:39,440 --> 01:13:40,640 I appreciate that. Thank you. 1647 01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:42,240 Mike, don't get me going on cash. 1648 01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,640 I got some some things. I got to come back. 1649 01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:46,800 I'm going to let you go before I get you in trouble. 1650 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,640 I can start getting on Cashman. Cashman is my biggest issue with 1651 01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:51,840 the Yankee. It ain't hell, it's not Boon. 1652 01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:55,360 It's it's Cashman. But with that being said, he too 1653 01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:56,560 is going to be a Hall of Famer. To be fair. 1654 01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,280 We're going to let you go. Great seeing you, buddy. 1655 01:13:58,280 --> 01:13:59,640 Thank you very much. Man, thanks a lot. 1656 01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:01,640 You the best there is the great Michael Kay. 1657 01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,200 Hey, how awesome was that J Rod pop in buddies. 1658 01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:06,920 I do have to go here. My goodness, that was that 1659 01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:11,640 awesome or what that was money. That was just I mean I won just 1660 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,800 the storytelling the come up I thought was incredible. 1661 01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,040 I thought the talk about the game was just, you know, so 1662 01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,240 informative. I thought that little story 1663 01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:23,640 about the dream at the end that was about that story about his 1664 01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,840 dad was just wild. That's a great story. 1665 01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:28,040 Yeah. Yeah. 1666 01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:30,800 No, I mean, I'm getting texts throughout just going, man, this 1667 01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:31,360 is it. This. 1668 01:14:31,440 --> 01:14:33,320 Yeah. I, I really, if I didn't have 1669 01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:34,640 to, he also has to do his radio show. 1670 01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,720 If I didn't have to get out to Queens, I got to suit up and get 1671 01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,800 out there. I I would kept them on longer. 1672 01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:41,840 So we'll get him back out again at some point during the season. 1673 01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:43,840 But I told you guys, I'm going to start rolling the guest in 1674 01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,080 and, you know, now it is on the list, whether it's Alex or 1675 01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:50,800 whether it's Booney or whether it's Pitino or I know I texted 1676 01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:52,560 Don the other day. We're going to get the Greca on 1677 01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,480 at some point. Talk about the old days and, you 1678 01:14:54,480 --> 01:14:56,920 know, radio and all that stuff. It's not an interview. 1679 01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:59,480 It's a conversation. What, what really one of my 1680 01:14:59,480 --> 01:15:02,320 favorite things to do, even though I say it's not an 1681 01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,000 interview really is to interview people. 1682 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,320 I, I, I just, I love it. I think the, you know, if you're 1683 01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:10,440 a young broadcaster out there, the bet there's too many people 1684 01:15:10,440 --> 01:15:13,320 go in, they, they try to get that money quote right away by, 1685 01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,800 Oh, I gotcha. And try to get that one little, 1686 01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,120 1 little cut that's going to get out there and get them more 1687 01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:20,720 followers. The way you do, not to be 1688 01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,400 preachy here, but the way you do is solve an interview is you got 1689 01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:26,400 to have a conversation and you've got to make them feel at 1690 01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,120 home and comfortable because if they get on right away and 1691 01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,200 they're on guard, you know, they're not going to give you 1692 01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:32,560 anything. But if you just chilling and you 1693 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,760 throw it a couple F bombs around, which you can in this 1694 01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:38,080 format and you just, you know, shooting the breeze, you're 1695 01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:41,880 going to get, you know, 50 minutes of unscripted K That's 1696 01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:45,040 so I take a lot of pride in that and all these conversations will 1697 01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:47,200 be great. So J Rod, let me sign off here, 1698 01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:48,560 buddy. Great job today, man. 1699 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,800 Head it all up there, the shorts, all the stuff we'll get 1700 01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:55,960 the we'll get the K interview up as a separate piece on the 1701 01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:57,840 YouTube channel. I did about I don't know 10 or 1702 01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,800 12 minutes of of other content before Michael join me. 1703 01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,640 Really appreciate that. Hopefully you guys enjoyed this. 1704 01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:05,760 I've got to run. Make sure you like make sure you 1705 01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,720 subscribe. We hit 17,000 Subs the other 1706 01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:13,920 day, closing in on 18 fast. So I'm starting to feel the 1707 01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:15,480 traction, but you got to do your job. 1708 01:16:15,480 --> 01:16:17,400 I'm doing mine. You guys got to like it. 1709 01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:18,960 You got to share it, you got to check it out. 1710 01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:20,840 You got to let that that algorithm kick in. 1711 01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,880 It's a real thing, man. So again, thank you to Michael. 1712 01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:25,960 I will catch you guys tomorrow at 10. 1713 01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,240 Have an outstanding awesome rest of your Wednesday and I will 1714 01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:30,840 talk to you then. Peace. 1715 01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:55,680 listening?