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What's up, everybody? 
I admit I am. 

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I am. 
What's the right word? 

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I am a little torn and I am a 
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And I'm talking about the 
quarterback situation around the

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NFL specific to The Jets, but 
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Miami and the Falcons. 
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of the shoot. 
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early though, and we get this up
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Tomorrow we got a big guest on 
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So it's the second guest coming 
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I had Sal now tomorrow we start 
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Not that Sal's not a heavy 
hitter. 

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I don't mean to like that, but 
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Rolodex a little bit here, and 
my good buddy who I've known 

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forever, Michael Kay, will join 
me tomorrow at 10:15. 

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So I'll start the show. 
I'll give you about 15 minutes 

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or so content and me and Michael
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minutes, maybe longer. 
Can't wait. 

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It's funny, the, you know, 
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God. 
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20 years at this point. 
My goodness, now I don't see him

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that much. 
But we never lost contact. 

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The last time I saw him was at 
Alex's Christmas party in 

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December. 
And he is, he's a rock star man.

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He's the voice of the Yankees. 
As you know, he still has his 

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radio show. 
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interviews that we do, you know,
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going to have on soon. 
I know the Greg is going to come

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on soon as well. 
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Alex up, we'll get Patino up. 
We'll get a lot of big names up.

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But when I do the interviews 
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word interview. 
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conversation. 
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to Michael about. 
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absolutely crush the Yankee 
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That's a given. 
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know, the old radio wars and 
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against Francesa back in the day
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and even some of the early 
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wild, man. 
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they started 10:50, I was 
working in Detroit. 

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And then So what year that would
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11th is when they launched. 
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middle of of the 2011. 
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really, really well. 
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awesome. 
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I said, hey, let's go. 
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be conversations. 
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I'll ask him some questions, but
this is going to be great. 

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J Rod, you would tell me some of
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this, huh? 
Yes, Sir. 

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Yeah, No, I mean, I think a lot 
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from the New York City area, you
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for a while, just listening to 
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as as we've grown up. 
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fired up for the episode. 
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to talk to him about this. 
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He gets a lot of slack for this,
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I really have. 
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with stuff like he does as the 
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But he gets a lot of hate and he
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into his timeline there and he 
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It it's I, I want to really, I 
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And, and we've talked about it a
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privately. 
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really, really fun, good 
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Hey, the WBC starts on Friday. 
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going to be Team USA's lineup. 
I'll get to that a little bit. 

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All right, so why I'm very 
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There's a lot of teams that need
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What else is new? 
The Jets are one of them. 

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What else is new? 
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appealing options in terms of 
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here on the show, I I do like Ty
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I would be OK now there's more 
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Obviously, I would be OK if The 
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I don't think that they will. 
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defense or defense, wide 
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weekend at Indianapolis over the
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So somebody's going to take him 
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going to take him inside the top
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However, it's not just The Jets,
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figure this out. 
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Obviously Tua is going to be a 
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The Atlanta Falcons. 
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Cousins did not work out. 
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Why I'm confused here, right? 
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to be available. 
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couple of years ago, The Jets 
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It's it's a broader, broader 
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But that, you know, from my 
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that this player was going to be
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I would've been doing 
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least trying to get him to The 
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And that's Kyler Murray. 
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Kyler Murray, some good, you 
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He's got the ridiculous 
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So first there's the concept of,
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player and then there's some of 
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player. 
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He's he's not special. 
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to do with Frank Reich. 
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of dismissed that fast. 
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know, incorrectly attribute it 
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media or somewhere in a comment 
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that The Jets wouldn't be 
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which I'm OK with, right. 
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then I want to present why the 
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make sense, not just for The 
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entice the Cardinals to bite. 
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things. 
You got to know he's still 

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fairly young. 
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He's in the second year of a 
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He signed it back in 2022. 
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guaranteed through 2028. 
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certain teams, they just can't 
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have the cap space. 
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Jermaine Johnson, as I said 
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effective cap space because a 
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draft picks, etcetera, and free 
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They got to fill out the roster.
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about 88 to $90,000,000. 
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absorb that just from a pure 
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obviously there. 
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$57 million that that's, that's 
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Now, if you want to do a post 
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getting a little weezy here, but
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If you do that, which The Jets, 
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to do that with Aaron Rodgers. 
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yeah, they they could have 
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more and I, you know, or, or, or
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things a little bit differently.
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But if the if the Cardinals goal
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change for 2026 and then 
$7,000,000 or so in 2027. 

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All right, so I just wanted at 
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way. 
Now you look at the top 

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quarterback options and forget 
about the draft, forget about 

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Mendoza Simpson or whatever 
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And and this is pretty much 
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talked about here on the show. 
If you want to go find it, just 

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scan the channel, hit the 
library. 

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I've had I've given you a lot of
context on this obviously 

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leading up to it's a big story. 
So Malik Willis is going to get 

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paid the estimated thoughts 
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I would love to see The Jets 

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throw their hat in there. 
I I think Miami's going to be 

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very active there. 
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be very active. 
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looking at Malik Willis the way 
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OK, touched on Kyle Murray going
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Kirk Cousins. 
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Cousins in a minute Mariota All 
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If that's the draft somebody and
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there and then there's obviously
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need to trade for or guys who 
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The 2 is the Geno Smith's Davis 
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trade, Tanner McGee back up for 
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That's the name that you've 
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Now I'm good. 
I've constructed a plan here 

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where I actually think it makes 
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else to go out there and get 
Kyler Murray. 

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But before I give you that, I've
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sobering numbers. 
And quite frankly, I did not 

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even realize this. 
Now I like Kyler Murray. 

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I'm not enamored with Kyler 
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Couple of years ago I certainly 
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There was great intrigue and you
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way explosive athlete. 
He could run, you know, good arm

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as a baseball player. 
But Warren Sharp is the name who

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does some phenomenal work, 
right, Jay Rod, Do you know 

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about Drew? 
Warren Drew About Warren Sharp 

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at all? 
No, get me, get me. 

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Learn it in Warren Sharp. 
Well, he's basically just covers

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the sport. 
He does a really good job. 

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He broke down on on such a micro
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I I have not seen this yet and 
it's really, really bad. 

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OK, so I want to give you the 
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plan why it would ultimately 
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Remember, I started this by 
saying I'm very confused. 

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You know, I know The Jets need 
an upgrade. 

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I know Miami's got to do 
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Falcons need to do something. 
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I don't really know how they 
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the new staff. 
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about The Jets here. 
So Warren Sharp did a deep dive.

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Now I I want to try to keep it 
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I don't want to just bombard you
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I tried not to do this on the 
radio with like the baseball 

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savant stuff. 
It becomes mentally paralyzing 

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when just number, number, 
number, number. 

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But this stuff really matters, 
all right? 

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And I think that this will, if 
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will, I think, negatively 
transform your thoughts the 

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other way. 
Anyway, in the in the last four 

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years now he's missed a lot of 
games and I'll chronicle that in

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a minute as well. 
But a passes of 25, your yards 

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or more, all downfield stuff, 25
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He ranked 36 out of 36 eligible 
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percentage and 36 out of 36 in 
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Absolutely hideous numbers, 
nowhere near reflective of 

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anybody that deserves the 
contract that he got and 

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certainly nobody that you would 
really run, you know, climb a 

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mountain to to try to go into 
choir. 

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I mean, that is very sobering. 
All right, you tell me. 

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Well, he does. 
So he's not going to bomb away 

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even though he's got a baseball 
arm, as you know, as as a first 

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round pick of the A's back in 
the day, he does not connect. 

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All right, the yards per attempt
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downfield. 
What he does, the completion 

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percentage is paltry. 
That's a problem. 

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All right, well, 25 yards is a 
pretty good shot downfield. 

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Let's go incremental again. 
This all warrant sharp. 

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This is not me. 
Let's go 5 yards below that and 

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let's go from 25 yards down to 
20. 

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Alright, maybe he's going to get
a little bit better there. 

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Where's he stack up? 
No, he still stinks. 

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He is 40 out of 46 in completion
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46 in yards per 10th. 
Stinks, all right? 

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He doesn't like to throw the 
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Not 25 yards, not 20. 
Let's get a little bit more of 

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an intermediate route. 
Can you do that? 

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Let's go to 15 yards or more. 
All right, Well, not good 

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either. 
He is 42 out of 51 in completion

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percentage, and he's 47 out of 
51 in in yards per attempt. 

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Those numbers are absolutely 
ridiculously bad. 

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So we know he can run, we know 
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had some good years, couple of 
Pro Bowls and he's sub 30, which

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is obviously good. 
And he hasn't really been in a 

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good situation either. 
But now you get to the other 

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aspect of trying to make a move 
for somebody like Conor Murray. 

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And he's always banged up. 
And listen, this is something I 

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learned, you know, whether it's 
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more importantly, real athletes.
Tiki told me this and I said 

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this the other day, Tiki brought
this up when we were doing the 

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national show very early. 
So I'm going back to like 

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20/13/2014. 
Remember the first time he said 

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this, he's like, dude, there are
certain guys who were just bad 

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cell guys. 
They're just their body the way 

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God made them. 
They just don't stay healthy and

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they're never going to stay 
healthy. 

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And they're just, it's not going
to change, right? 

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So I think one of the foolish 
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take somebody who's banged up a 
lot and then expect it to change

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radically. 
Like it's one thing to think, 

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you know, throughout of 
arrogance or planning or 

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confidence, whatever. 
Hey, this guy was in a bad 

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system. 
No old line, no weapons that can

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win on the outside, you know, 
very benign play calling. 

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The defense stunk, so they were 
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which made what they were going 
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So you couldn't really run it 
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You didn't have a good favorable
split run versus the pass. 

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All that football stuff, which I
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applies because there's a lot of
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very good. 
They got in a better situation, 

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better online, better weapons, 
more stable coaching, better 

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franchise, all that stuff that 
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quarterback, man it it, it is 
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a few of those things. 
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one or two, talent could elevate
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very successful. 
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trainers are not going to be so 
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preventative measures or getting
somebody healthy when they're 

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hurt like he he, it's a problem.
The guy's always hurt. 

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All right, so and I'll get to 
the master plan in a second. 

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You look at his injury history 
and it started early in 2021, he

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jacked up his ankle and he 
missed multiple games. 

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All right, it happens. 
Guys get hit quarterback spot 

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running for your life, young 
quarterback, bad team, get it. 

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You go to 2022 had a hamstring 
issue and then he he obviously 

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missed a lot of time. 
He's tore, he tore his ACL and 

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was at his PCL or his MCL. 
I think it was the medial either

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way, he shredded his ACL, missed
a ton of time. 

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Then you get to 2022 and he 
played only 8 of 17 games 

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because he was rehabbing from 
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is, you know, you know, the 
timeline with the ACL. 

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And then last year and this was 
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like, I mean, it's just not 
going to work for this dude for 

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the most part. 
Last year he missed 12 out of 17

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games. 
He had the Linds Frank injury, 

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Chin Ming Wong had that. 
If you're a big Yankee fan, 

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remember that he got hurt 
running the bases in Houston. 

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It basically, it is a, it is a 
midfoot sprain and it is 

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anything but benign. 
It is a problem. 

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Now, I'm not saying it's not 
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but like when you're dealing 
with that in real time, not 

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good. 
The other thing that that Sharp 

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did, Warren Sharp did, and this 
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And again, I, I, you know, you, 
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especially for a team like The 
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the Ravens, the Bills, the 
Patriots, like those Northeast 

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teams that just play in 
consistent inclement weather 

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when you get past Halloween. 
This was amazing. 

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Based on when he was hurt and 
the amount of games that he 

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played versus the ones that he 
missed, only 12. 

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This is crazy. 
Only 12 of his 41 games were 

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outdoors since 2022. 
And the numbers, and I'm not, 

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I'm going to stop hitting you 
with numbers here. 

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Warren Sharp actually did this, 
but I'm going to stop because 

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it's getting too much even for 
me. 

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But if you do a micro deep dive 
into those games, playing 12 out

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of 41 games outdoors, the 12 
games outdoors, the numbers were

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hard. 
OK, so smaller sample hasn't 

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played well outdoors, hasn't 
been healthy, hasn't been good 

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throwing the ball downfield at 
all. 

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And by the way, 15 yards 
downfield is not really 

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downfield like that's as I said,
that's a very intermediate 

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route. 
So all those things. 

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But I might have one more for 
you. 

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Yeah, I do. 
I wouldn't even take it down to 

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10 plus yards. 
Your boy did some research. 

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All right, So, well, Warren did 
it and then I found it. 

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But if I wasn't looking for the 
research, I wouldn't have come 

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across Warren stuff, which is 
great. 

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The last four years combined, 
Throw it all in a blender, 

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right. 10 yards. 
So we're basically talking a 

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step above screen passes of at 
least 175 attempts or more. 

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He had, he was 36 out of 43 in 
completion percentage, which is 

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just, I mean, good God almighty,
that is just wretchedly bad. 

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And 41 out of 43 in yards per 
attempt. 

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And I think this is the last 
number of the 32 qualifying 

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quarterbacks he did not rank in 
the top 32 throwing downfield. 

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This is just now an 
all-encompassing of, of 

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everything that I hit you with 
10 yards, 15 yards, 20 yards or 

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25 yards. 
So I guess the question really 

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we can ask is like what the hell
does he do? 

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Well, it's not healthy. 
Can't throw it past 10, can't 

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throw it past 15, doesn't throw 
it past 20 and it's awful 

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throwing it past 2025. 
So why in the world am I about 

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to tell you that not only The 
Jets, but any team that needs a 

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quarterback, why in the world 
would I say that they should go 

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out and engage with the 
Cardinals right now for a trade 

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and not wait for him to be 
released? 

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I'm going to tell you why, 
because the incentive for 

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Arizona is through the roof to 
shed that contract, which is why

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most people think that he's 
going to be released, which, by 

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the way, I agree with. 
I think that that's probably 

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what's going to happen. 
But I want to give the Cardinals

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something to think about. 
I'm calling them up. 

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And Mooji. 
Mooji is the kind of GM forward 

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thinker who's probably already 
kicking this around upstairs. 

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I'm going to call up Arizona and
I'm going to tell him very 

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simple. 
All right, we want to trade for 

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calamari because we've got 
$90,000,000 in cap space and 

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about 50-60 in effective cap 
space. 

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We can absorb it. 
So we're one of the we we know 

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you don't want him. 
You got to move on. 1st overall 

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pick didn't work out, hasn't 
won, banged up, not performing 

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and and we know that you like 
Jacoby percent better, which by 

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the way, The Jets probably like 
Jacoby percent better as well. 

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Doesn't turn the ball over. 
But how you engage the Cardinals

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is by giving them something to 
think about that I don't think 

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any other teams going to do. 
And this is what it is when you 

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if you call them and talk to 
them about acquiring Kyler 

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Murray, it's not just, hey, we 
want to trade for Kyler Murray. 

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It's it's a step further. 
We want Kyler Murray, but we 

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will only take him off your 
hand, off your hands if you 

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throw a nice pick in there. 
So you can do a couple of things

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here. 
If you're a bad team and you 

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need a sizeable upgraded 
quarterback, which The Jets and 

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others absolutely do well, the 
way you make this deal work is 

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because you're taking on so much
money of an undesirable 

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contract. 
OK, you're getting them to give 

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you a draft pick. 
Now you're not going to get a 

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first overall pick. 
So what would you get, genius? 

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So you construct this plan. 
You're OK with Kalahari coming 

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to The Jets. 
You've got a plan to get the 

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Cardinals to at least think 
about it. 

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How would the draft equity and 
the draft capital, how would it 

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actually make sense? 
Here's the answer. 

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The way you make it make sense. 
Is this because he's hurt a lot?

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You're not going to get the 
Cardinals to just give you like 

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a premium pick. 
For me, a premium pick is a 

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second round pick. 
Feel that's got to stop 

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happening. 
Yeah, I mean, I, I don't know 

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what is going on here. 
I told you. 

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It's the Wi-Fi. 
I got it. 

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I got it shacked up. 
I got to get fixed up. 

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I will whatever, but the way you
make that look nice. 

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Nice transition there, J Ron. 
Get right back to the content. 

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Plow through. 
Hey, step over the little 

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obstacle. 
Keep it moving. 

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Good job. 
J Ron. 

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Would it be locked in today? 
So to me, I think a nice draft 

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package in return would be, 
let's start with the third 

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rounder, all right? 
And if Kyler Murray does not 

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play at least 9 or 10 games and 
it's got to be because of injury

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designation, it can't be. 
And we're going to just sit him 

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on the bench because we want to 
have this trigger to a more 

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favorable draft pick because 
that's the deal we set up. 

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You'd have to work that into the
contract. 

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And the Cardinals, if they 
don't, they're idiots. 

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Which, by the way, they might be
so. 

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Think about this, you absorb all
the money going to be $50 

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million Cardinals off, off the 
hook, they could get on with 

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their business. 
The Jets have the money to do it

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and by the way, the Vikings 
don't have the money to do it. 

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I don't want to just keep a Jet 
specific. 

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The doubts don't have the money 
to do it and I and I and Atlanta

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does not have the money that The
Jets have either. 

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So The Jets are a good spot to 
at least give them something to 

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think about. 
Now let's say they make a trade 

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and they agree. 
All right, Kyler Murray, Jets, 

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you absorb the money and they 
settle. 

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Even if it's a fourth round 
pick. 

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Let's just go 4th. 
All right, Maybe I'm thinking 

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too ambitiously here. 
Let's go fourth round pick. 

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Well, if Kyler Murray doesn't 
play the X amount of game, 

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whatever the allotment is 
determined during the the trade.

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If he doesn't play X amount of 
games, that that fourth round 

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pick becomes a third. 
So if the Linds Frank gets 

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jacked up or he pulls A 
hamstring or God forbid 

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something else happens to the I 
don't see anybody get hurt. 

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But if something else happens 
now, the 4th becomes a third or 

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the third becomes a two, it's 
basically incentive to to to 

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have the Cardinals think about 
this. 

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Because for the Jet, he's not 
good enough, all right? 

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He's not enough of a difference 
maker, doesn't play well 

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outside. 
I gave you all the other 

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numbers. 
I don't need to just keep 

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resetting that. 
So you've got to do something 

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that gives The Jets incentive to
want to do this. 

445
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,280
And then you got to give 
something to the Cardinals to 

446
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,840
really think about. 
That's how you construct a deal.

447
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,760
See, in my mind, right, there's 
always to make it. 

448
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,080
There's always a way to make a 
trade. 

449
00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:03,720
There's always an Ave. there's 
always a lane to get somebody to

450
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:08,840
really contemplate. 
Man, man, do we really want to 

451
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,720
do this here? 
We don't want to, we don't want 

452
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,760
to move forward with Kyler 
Murray, but man, we don't want 

453
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,080
this money on our books. 
It's just too burdensome here. 

454
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,120
I'll have The Jets. 
They'll take them off our hands 

455
00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:20,680
for a fourth round pick or a 
third, even with a with a 

456
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,560
triggering up if he if he's hurt
again, I think that that could 

457
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,880
be a way to get this done. 
I really do. 

458
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:32,280
Now, I also think that there's 
better options out there and 

459
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:36,000
understand this because when you
make a trade, you make a trade 

460
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,080
for two reasons. 
Now, the first one is very 

461
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,840
obvious. 
You make a trade to get better, 

462
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,400
You make a trade to save, you 
make a trade to save jobs. 

463
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,640
Now, Mooji doesn't have to do 
that because I think Darren 

464
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,640
Mooji's distinguished himself 
pretty well early on, very well.

465
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,840
You know, I've got profound 
belief in him as a as as a 

466
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:56,760
general manager who reads the 
trade market well, is proactive,

467
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,480
is aggressive, is 
out-of-the-box, has has shown 

468
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,960
some signs of drafting well, has
shown some very good signs of 

469
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,720
being able to look at other 
rosters that other teams view as

470
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,440
less desirable commodities. 
Bring them in, whether it's 

471
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,960
return game, you know, Mooji, 
they kept messing around with 

472
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,560
that. 
They found somebody who had 

473
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,760
multiple returns for touchdowns.
Like those are little moves. 

474
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,280
That gives me confidence that 
Mooji knows what he's doing. 

475
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,200
Absolutely. 
So you make a trade obviously to

476
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,200
get better the other way though,
and now I want to incorporate 

477
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,040
somebody like a Kirk Cousins and
and somebody like Jacoby 

478
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,160
Brissette. 
The other reason why you make a 

479
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,960
trade is just just to raise the 
floor, all right, And yes, to 

480
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,600
win some more games, to change 
perception, to change the energy

481
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,560
and the stench, get rid of the 
stench of the building which is 

482
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,760
swallowed up The Jets and some 
of these other teams for far too

483
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,200
long. 
But I'm a big believer, even if 

484
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,720
you can make a trade, right, and
the ultimate goal, at least in 

485
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,960
the moment, and, and the belief 
like, well, I mean, the goal is 

486
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,560
nobody's going to sit there and 
say, oh, we have no chance to 

487
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,160
win the Super Bowl. 
Nobody thinks like that. 

488
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,160
If you do, you're you're an 
inherent loser. 

489
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,640
Even the worst teams are in 
their minds, they are, even if 

490
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,560
it's outlandishly, you know, 
unattainable, you know, to the 

491
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,680
common person like us on the 
outside looking in, they don't 

492
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,680
think that way because they 
think that their plan that 

493
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,760
they've crafted all offseason is
going even for the bad teams, 

494
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,240
the horrible teams is going to 
be one that is going to be good 

495
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,560
enough to elevate them to be in 
the playoff mix. 

496
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,760
And then when you get to the 
playoffs, you never know what's 

497
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,840
going to happen, All right, You 
know, and it should never be 

498
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,840
based on rooting for injury 
ever, certainly not for me. 

499
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,360
But you know, think about about 
the AFC this year and the Chiefs

500
00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:40,000
weren't the same team with 
Mahomes. 

501
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,000
They weren't the same offense 
with Mahomes because their stars

502
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,120
were getting old or whatever. 
But you know, Patrick Mahomes 

503
00:24:46,120 --> 00:24:49,040
goes down. 
That changes the entire opening 

504
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:54,080
or the window for some team. 
So I really think that The Jets,

505
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,960
lesser extent, I, I think let, 
let me let me go to the four 

506
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,800
teams that are already outlined.
So I think The Jets are in the 

507
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:06,680
position of just merely needing 
to elevate the floor to a more 

508
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,240
competitive, more aesthetically 
pleasing, more balanced 

509
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,120
presentation. 
That's The Jets. 

510
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,000
The Vikings got to win all 
right, because a couple of years

511
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,160
ago the Vikings were really good
with Sam Darnold. 

512
00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:19,240
They let him go. 
Idiotic move. 

513
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,360
Sam wins the Super Bowl, gets 
paid right, all that stuff. 

514
00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:25,920
And, and rightfully so. 
And the Vikings are now left 

515
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,840
with a roster, you know, you you
very well might have the best 

516
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,600
receiver in football and Justin 
Jefferson, you've got some 

517
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:32,960
weapons, you've got some 
players. 

518
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:37,320
So what the Vikings are doing 
this off season is to their 

519
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,800
aspiration should be let's 
attack the quarterback position 

520
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,200
with somebody that we think 
could, you know, get us back to 

521
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,280
that. 
You know, even though they won 

522
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,680
more than 10 games with Sam, get
into that 10 win ish of maybe 

523
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,120
even 11 win threshold and even 
in a very good division because 

524
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,840
the NFC North is now stacked and
just have a chance to throw our 

525
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,640
hat in the ring, get to the 
playoffs beyond and make a move 

526
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,880
right. 
Because what happens like the 

527
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:07,160
worst spot to be in, We think 
the worst spot is being fans of 

528
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,600
a team that has no talent. 
Now that sucks. 

529
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,160
I mean it's Sundays are boring. 
There's no hope. 

530
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,920
It's listless, but at least when
you have a team with no talent, 

531
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,040
all right, generally, unless 
you're a complete loser 

532
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,040
franchise like the Browns 
because of that stupid, the Shaw

533
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,360
and and sorry Browns fans, I'm I
love you, but it is what it is 

534
00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:29,880
and who am I to judge? 
But like at least The Jets have 

535
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,000
cap space. 
All right, the deal that they 

536
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:37,360
gave to Deshaun Watson 
230,000,200 and 30 million 

537
00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:41,120
guaranteed contract that is 
really prevented them from doing

538
00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:44,640
anything meaningful. 
So I would much rather stink and

539
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,520
have a ton of draft capital, 
check for The Jets stink and 

540
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,640
have a ton of cap space for The 
Jets check then be like the 

541
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,040
Vikings in. 
I don't think this sounds odd in

542
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,160
a fairly undesirable situation 
with the quarterbacks because 

543
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,040
there's no home runs out there. 
But it but a roster with some 

544
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,880
big contracts, some 
expectations, a fan base that 

545
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,160
thought they were going to keep 
winning ownership. 

546
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,960
Think about the GM. 
He's gone ownership that thought

547
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,760
that they were going to win and 
you know, kind of be in no man's

548
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,800
land. 
Like The Jets aren't in no man's

549
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,280
land. 
They're just wretched. 

550
00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:20,640
They got to figure out a way to 
get more talent and stock the 

551
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,480
cupboards And and I almost think
that with a new GM, not if 

552
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,600
you're in Year 5, that's awful, 
but if you're going into year 2,

553
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,040
that's a good spot to be in. 
All right, let's see BT keep 

554
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,320
grinding and ignore the haters. 
Also shout out to my wife 

555
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,920
Mercedes, what's up, Mercedes? 
I don't see a lot of haters 

556
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,440
here. 
I mean, there's haters in the 

557
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,480
world there and I appreciate the
the, you know, the shout out 

558
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,880
there in the, you know, like the
the confidence boost. 

559
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,440
Not that I really need one. 
J Rod, are we getting hit with 

560
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,000
haters today? 
Well, what am I missing here? 

561
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,720
I mean, I'm not seeing too many,
I'm not seeing too many haters. 

562
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,200
I mean, there's, you know, 
there's a couple, couple haters 

563
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,800
on The Jets down here. 
Won't. 

564
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,680
You pop a few, pop the haters 
up, I'll have a little What's my

565
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,560
boy hater? 
A little hater rate. 

566
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,200
See, I'm my. 
Every show talk jets. 

567
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,560
I'm not March 3rd, I'm not what 
I'm doing. 

568
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,960
Is I'm talking NFL quarterbacks?
Is that that hard to comprehend?

569
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,360
I mean, if you can't, if you 
can't, if you can't hear 

570
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:17,120
properly, I don't know what to 
tell you. 

571
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,080
You're still talking football. 
Unless you're gambling, 

572
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,880
football's a super boring sport.
Well, Mikey, what sport do you 

573
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,120
like? 
Dude, it's the number one sport 

574
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:29,200
in in, in not in the world. 
That's soccer in our country. 

575
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,000
Now, listen, there's a lot of 
issues with the NFL. 

576
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,200
What do you want me to talk 
about? 

577
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,640
I'm going to get to the WBCI 
talk Yanks and Mets in baseball 

578
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:37,880
every day. 
I got Nuggets for you. 

579
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,720
I talk NBA. 
What do you what else is out 

580
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,240
there, buddy? 
What would you? 

581
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,200
How about this? 
All right, who's that? 

582
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,480
Weaving underwater basket 
weaving. 

583
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,200
That's what he wants you to 
touch on, Yeah. 

584
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:49,680
Well, you got the wrong show for
that, buddy. 

585
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,280
Go find somebody else. 
Here's what I'm going to give 

586
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,320
you the power to do. 
All right, since you're so 

587
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,480
smart, since you're such a 
genius, since you're apparently 

588
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,760
evidently an aspiring program 
director or content director, 

589
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,400
I'm going to give you the 
latitude and I'm going to have J

590
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,520
Rod put it up on the screen. 
Whatever. 

591
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,600
If you could actually figure 
something out, and I want you to

592
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:11,880
tell me. 
All right? 

593
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,400
I want you to tell. 
I'll read it. 

594
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,120
I'll read, I promise. 
I want you to write out three 

595
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:21,000
things that you think are more 
worthy of starting a show today.

596
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,960
It is. 
And I promise you I will read 

597
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,520
them. 
And if they're good, I'll give 

598
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,120
you props. 
I don't think they're going to 

599
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,680
be good because I know what I'm 
doing, so I listen. 

600
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:34,040
If it was, I don't know April 
7th that I'm doing this probably

601
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,920
a little bit off base couple of 
weeks into the season March 

602
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,120
Madness, you know, final four 
just wrapped up NFL draft around

603
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,640
the corner. 
What are you talking about, 

604
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,400
dude? 
I I want to see if you even have

605
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,040
the guts to try to put something
up there. 

606
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,280
See that's what I love. 
I listen the and I, I, I don't, 

607
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,520
I don't think now I know I have 
haters, but I actually get more 

608
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,440
support than I do hate. 
I, I can't really quantify that.

609
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,920
Like you'd have to really read 
everything that I get in the 

610
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:01,200
messages. 
I'm, I'm not going to give you 

611
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:06,800
access to it, but I feel, I feel
as if I am more loved than 

612
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,720
loathed. 
I really believe that I felt it 

613
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,360
when things ended at the fan. 
I still see a lot of comments 

614
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,320
about what what went down and 
all that stuff, you know, 

615
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,200
wishing me and Sal were still on
the air. 

616
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,760
And by the way, that show never 
should have been taken off the 

617
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:20,600
show. 
It was the best show. 

618
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,360
It was great. 
We all know that. 

619
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:27,400
And I, I think that when I, when
I read that stuff, I read it 

620
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,880
because the, I read it not to 
get validation necessarily, 

621
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,320
because the validation is what 
I've done so far in my career. 

622
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,320
And this is a new, new chapter, 
admittedly. 

623
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,000
And I haven't, I'm not making 
any money yet. 

624
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,480
I get it. 
But the the haters or fuel, like

625
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,520
I take that as fuel because this
you got to remember, guys, this 

626
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,560
started take a little sideswipe,
as we sometimes do here on BT 

627
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:55,040
unleashed. 
When I told everybody that I 

628
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,760
wanted to be a sports 
broadcaster when the baseball 

629
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,360
dream so painfully died. 
Oh God, did that hurt J Rod, You

630
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,960
know that that hurt man. 
You knew when it when it when I 

631
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,560
had to officially take off the 
spikes and hang it up. 

632
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,240
You know, even though in my 
heart I knew, you know, even 

633
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,120
before I did that, that there 
wasn't going to go where I 

634
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,520
wanted it to go necessarily, you
know, playing for the Yankees, 

635
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,320
taking over for Donnie baseball 
first base. 

636
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,480
When I told everybody, my best 
friends and my family, obviously

637
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:25,440
first and foremost what I was 
going to do, even my dad who you

638
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,200
listen to that final show on the
fan and my dad is the best. 

639
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:29,440
I he's probably watching right 
now. 

640
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:30,760
I'm going to get my dad on the 
show. 

641
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,560
Maybe dude do a little old 
school baseball. 

642
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,920
I've said that a few times. 
He's got to figure out, you know

643
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,600
how to get into the to the link 
here and J Rod J Rod and mom 

644
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,320
will help him with that. 
My dad's the best, but I 

645
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,520
remember because my dad is very 
practical and very conservative 

646
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,600
in a lot of things and how he 
views the world. 

647
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,280
And my dad, who, you know, was, 
was a detective for a long time 

648
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,040
and also opened his own business
after that and, and did well and

649
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,760
very proud of him, worked his 
ass off. 

650
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,200
That's why we went from the, you
know, broken down, dilapidated 

651
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,640
cars that he would, he would buy
for like 1000 bucks when he saw 

652
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,160
a sign of the car on the street 
actually having a, a few new 

653
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,720
cars, right? 
And that was great and I'm proud

654
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,080
of him. 
But my dad, just based on how he

655
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,560
was raised and the era in which 
he was raised, was brought up 

656
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,600
with, you got to have a plan. 
That's why he's like, I'll take 

657
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,080
the police test. 
No, I'm not going to I'm not 

658
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,320
that's not what I'm doing. 
And I remember I actually got 

659
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:27,400
into a fight with him like a, a,
a vicious argument when, when 

660
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,480
something happened early and I 
thought I was going to get my 

661
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,840
first radio job. 
And then it was like it was 

662
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,680
promised to me. 
And I was like 20, whatever 

663
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,240
years old, just out of school 
promised to me. 

664
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,240
And then it was taken away. 
And I won't bore you with the 

665
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,920
story. 
I eventually got it right. 

666
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,320
But you know, we kind of 
exploded each other. 

667
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,160
His explosion to me was him 
trying to protect me, which I 

668
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,280
understand. 
This is dad. 

669
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,800
And I think if you're of the 
older generation and you are 

670
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,880
Irish, not the stereotype, but 
I'm Irish. 

671
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,240
So I can say this, you know, 
the, the Irish generally have a 

672
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,880
rougher time expressing 
themselves. 

673
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,800
Like my mom was always I love 
you and soft and you could do 

674
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:04,920
it. 
You can do whatever you want. 

675
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,800
My dad was more practical 
because my dad is the head of 

676
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,800
the household and the man who 
and my mom didn't, she worked 

677
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,680
for a little bit, but she was 
when we were young, she was 

678
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,520
always home, right? 
Always home and during lunch 

679
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,440
after school. 
And he's of the mindset all 

680
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,040
right about, you know, I'm 
raising a man here. 

681
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,520
Eventually he's got to be able 
to put food on the table pay for

682
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:24,920
a home and and do all that 
stuff. 

683
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,040
And and he didn't really think 
that this radio thing was 

684
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,960
necessarily viable. 
I told you it was pops told you 

685
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:36,560
and and and so the only one that
really, really truly and my 

686
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,360
sister did a little bit as well 
was my mom who said not she had 

687
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,360
full unflinching, unwavering 
conviction in me. 

688
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,680
So I am from even my best 
buddies were like who were on 

689
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,600
Wall Street making money and I 
was making 16,000 bucks and 

690
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,200
they're starting to make some 
some bank and and they they 

691
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,760
believed in me. 
But early on they're like, man, 

692
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,240
this is going to be hard. 
Why are you going to move to 

693
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,960
Pennsylvania? 
You're going to move to this 

694
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,040
tiny town to be on the right. 
Yeah, you're damn right I'm 

695
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,720
going to do it because I'm going
to make it so Any of the hate, 

696
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,000
any of that stuff, it is fuel. 
It is oxygen. 

697
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,320
Bring it on. 
All right. 

698
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,960
But I also don't think that I 
really get more hate than either

699
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,760
appreciation or respect or love,
because I support. 

700
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,199
I think at the end of the day, I
think it's very, very obvious 

701
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:26,840
that one of my greatest 
strengths here is that is that 

702
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,159
I'm real and that I'm not 
arrogant and that I'm a really 

703
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:32,880
hard worker. 
And I think that you guys know 

704
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,400
that and I'm prepared and I'm 
fair and I'm not lazy. 

705
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,199
So yeah. 
And by the way, I'm still 

706
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:40,000
waiting for this nitwit. 
Did he get something up there 

707
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:40,760
or? 
No, Not anything. 

708
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,760
Not up in. 
Silence as usual. 

709
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,440
See that's that's the other 
thing too. 

710
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,719
Like I don't and that's why I'm 
looking forward to having 

711
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,360
Michael Kate. 
One one of the many reasons 

712
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,000
Michael Michael engages with the
trolls on Twitter. 

713
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,280
Like he will actually subtweet 
stuff. 

714
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,920
And and I don't know why he does
it. 

715
00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:58,440
I mean, the guy's got more money
than he could want. 

716
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,600
He's the voice of the Yankees. 
He's gonna be in Cooperstown 

717
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,600
someday in the broadcast was a 
Hall of Famer. 

718
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,640
And when I tell him that, he's 
like, I had no chance. 

719
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,520
I'm like, dude, you've been 
doing the Yankees for multiple 

720
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,480
decades, for like 30 something 
years. 

721
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,160
You're going to be in the Hall 
of Fame. 

722
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,240
You've called championship after
championship and big, you're 

723
00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:17,360
going to be there, man. 
And I guess if you're handy, 

724
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,080
can't really think that way. 
So I respect that. 

725
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,360
But he he, he goes and he 
doesn't really go after the 

726
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,400
trolls, but he will engage with 
them And and I'm like, why? 

727
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:32,000
They are useless people. 
It is useless energy generally. 

728
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,880
Generally, trolls are people. 
I didn't even think I'd get into

729
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,920
this. 
Trolls are people who one, have 

730
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:44,240
no confidence, 2 are incredibly 
jealous, three have no real plan

731
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:46,280
in life. 
You know what I mean? 

732
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,960
That's pretty much what it comes
down to, no? 

733
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,360
It's, it's tough. 
And this is what's interesting 

734
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,760
about I think, you know, your 
trolls maybe in particular, at 

735
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,680
least the people I see on 
Twitter, they really love you. 

736
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,080
Like, that's the funny. 
Thing is, like, these people 

737
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:06,160
might generally or genuinely be 
more interested in your career, 

738
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,120
your trajectory, your whatever, 
than the people who are 

739
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,080
incredibly invested. 
Because it's like, you know, 

740
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,360
these people are taking time out
of their day pretty much most 

741
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,000
days of the week to say 
something. 

742
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,280
And it's like, they must love 
this guy. 

743
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,320
They must. 
Yeah, yeah, I get a lot on the 

744
00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:25,840
one thing I've noticed here and,
and it's, it's not even it's, 

745
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,760
it's more of a, a response like 
yesterday we put that out there.

746
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,000
Have I been unfair to the 
Knicks? 

747
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,400
Right. 
I don't think I've been unfair 

748
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,400
to the Knicks at all because at 
the start of the season, I I 

749
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,960
said I thought the Knicks would 
win 5455 games, be the first or 

750
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,600
the second seed in the Eastern 
Conference. 

751
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,720
Get back to the, you know, go to
the conference finals and you 

752
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:45,360
don't have a real chance to win 
a deep series and get to the NBA

753
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,320
Finals and then probably lose to
OK C. 

754
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,480
Now, if they play Denver, they 
could beat them. 

755
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,120
But OK C is the team if they get
healthy, all that stuff, that's 

756
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,400
the team you got to worry about 
the most. 

757
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:59,720
And I think one thing that Nick 
fans say about me is that I'm 

758
00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:03,040
too reactive after bad moments. 
You know what I mean? 

759
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,960
Like, but I don't even think. 
And by the way, I I have no 

760
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,680
problem absorbing criticism. 
I've got no problem looking in 

761
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,760
the mirror and say you fucked 
that up, dude. 

762
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,720
That was off, that was mad at 
that. 

763
00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:16,280
That's why I own stuff. 
You know, whether it was Zach 

764
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,480
Wilson, whether it was Lindor 
only hitting right-handed. 

765
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,200
I mean, there's been some 
horrendous takes out of me over 

766
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,200
the years. 
Of course, dude, I get that. 

767
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,680
But I don't even think that I've
been unfair to the Knicks. 

768
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:31,640
I think I've been as engaged as 
anybody who does what I do for a

769
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,880
living, covering and following 
the Knicks because unlike many 

770
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,920
people, I never stopped watching
the Knicks when they were awful.

771
00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:42,600
All right, So you know, the the 
fluctuations in expectation, 

772
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,200
they are what they are. 
And when Detroit pushes you 

773
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:50,120
around and mops you by 37. 
And you know when, When Mike 

774
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,520
Brown is hugging Draymond Green 
after Draymond was talking smack

775
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,560
about Cat and when Mike Brown 
was hugging Bickerstaff after 

776
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,200
another watch job by the 
Pistons? 

777
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,840
Like, what am I supposed to say?
Oh, the Knicks will be fine. 

778
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,440
Like, what do you guys expect? 
I don't know what people expect.

779
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,400
I know the world's gotten 
incredibly soft. 

780
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,800
Like, trust me, I'm well aware 
of that, but I don't know about 

781
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,080
me having been raised on sports 
radio, Mike and Chris, and fall 

782
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,280
asleep to the radio and all that
stuff every night, as you know, 

783
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:23,040
like to me, if I heard something
that was inauthentic or not 

784
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,800
relatable or not applicable, I'd
be like, this guy sucks. 

785
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,920
You know, if you know what, here
I'm going to say something that 

786
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,320
I think is going to sound 
incredibly egotistical, and I 

787
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,000
don't mean it that way, but I 
don't know how else to say it. 

788
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:42,160
J Rod, I really think that if 
you know sports and you really 

789
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,640
know what you're talking about 
and you're not lazy and you're 

790
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,120
not just watching a highlight 
and getting a little something 

791
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,960
off TikTok or a little, you 
know, a little quote off for 

792
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,280
social media that gets hijacked.
If you're really in the trenches

793
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,840
and love sport and know sport 
and follow sport and best 

794
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,960
yourself, your time and sport, I
think you love me because I 

795
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:01,240
think that you know that I do 
that. 

796
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,400
Even if you disagree with my 
assertions. 

797
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,320
I'll tell you one thing. 
I don't know. 

798
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:07,240
I don't want to do this for an 
hour. 

799
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:08,280
I'm going to move on to a 
second. 

800
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:13,440
Jeez, I don't know. 
I really don't know of a person 

801
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,760
that is, you know, everybody 
knows I'm a Yankee fan. 

802
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,360
I don't hide that. 
But I don't know anybody in our 

803
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:23,760
business that is a Yankee fan 
that is as fair or as 

804
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,360
knowledgeable out the about the 
Mets more than me. 

805
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,760
I don't know anybody. 
And I've worked with basically 

806
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,760
everybody in the business in New
York, everybody. 

807
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,560
And if I haven't worked with 
him, I've worked at the same 

808
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:35,880
station with him, you know what 
I mean? 

809
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,680
So I think that I'm always 
rooted in transparency and it 

810
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,760
being fair. 
By the way, has Mr. Nitwit come 

811
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,360
up with a couple of bulletproof 
channels incapable My. 

812
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,280
Guess would be he's he's long 
gone. 

813
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,440
My guess would be he came in, 
shot a shot. 

814
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,640
Shot an air ball. 
Shot an air ball, shot a little 

815
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,320
who was AD Aaron Fox the other 
day off the right side of the 

816
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,160
basket and then dipped. 
He did dip a little dippage 

817
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,040
there. 
Let me get D under score. 

818
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,840
Rod Kay doesn't have thin skin. 
It's trying to understand why 

819
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,040
people say the stupid things 
they do online because they 

820
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,360
wouldn't say that stuff to your 
face. 

821
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,840
I, I mean, I think that that's a
part of it. 

822
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,680
And, and not to, not to alienate
my guest and my good buddy, I do

823
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,760
think that Michael does have a 
little bit of thin skin. 

824
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,400
I've talked to him about this. 
I think that he really does care

825
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,600
a little bit more than he should
about what people say that, you 

826
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,720
know, I, I really, I do, I, you 
know, and I think that, no, I, I

827
00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:36,800
think to, to be obtuse, to not 
follow to an extent how you're 

828
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,560
perceived is really dumb. 
Like, I think that and, and 

829
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,360
that, that's why I, I will dive 
into comments here and there and

830
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,040
do a little digging. 
I true story. 

831
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,200
So I guess about this was about 
a year how long ago? 

832
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,480
Maybe about a year or so ago, 
right. 

833
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,840
That's actually a good 
illumination of of how people 

834
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:03,760
think and how much inaccuracy is
out there. 

835
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,120
All right, somebody at this, I'm
not going to say his name, 

836
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,760
somebody at WFAN, not on the 
air. 

837
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,800
Good guy. 
I don't even know if he's still 

838
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,320
there. 
I I hope he wasn't let go. 

839
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:14,760
He may have been after me. 
I hope not. 

840
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,840
The radio lifer, like one of the
production guys who, you know, 

841
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,920
you got to cut a spot. 
I know you know this, but I'm 

842
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:20,960
going to explain this to 
everybody. 

843
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,320
So I do a lot of work with 
Verizon. 

844
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,480
All right, so I had a 
relationship with Verizon for 

845
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,680
about five years on the fan, 
which means I would record 

846
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,120
promos. 
So he would call me in. 

847
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,760
Hey, we got the new spot. 
I would read it whether it's 30 

848
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,720
seconds, 60 seconds, I would 
read it and then you would hear 

849
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:39,480
it on WFANI would also do a live
reads during the show. 

850
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,160
And my relationship, I'm very 
proud to say has continued with 

851
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:44,960
Verizon. 
I'm doing motivational speaking 

852
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,560
with them on March 12th. 
I think Joe Torre is going to be

853
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,880
there as well. 
Big room about 150 Verizon 

854
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,480
executives spoke with spoke 
there a year ago. 

855
00:41:54,080 --> 00:42:01,960
Great relationship, right? 
And the hold on one SEC hold on.

856
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,520
I got the cleaners. 
Oh God, dude, come on. 

857
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,200
Not now. 
Oh God, they got you know I'm 

858
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,240
picking it up. 
No, but I but I can hear it now.

859
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:17,400
It's distracting me right 
outside the all right, I'll try 

860
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,320
to plow through. 
I guess it's better to have a 

861
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,560
cleaner house than they come 
every couple weeks. 

862
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,320
It's not like we're that we're 
not that rich. 

863
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:24,920
They're coming every day coming 
every few weeks. 

864
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,440
Anyway, so this gentleman says 
to me one day when I'm after I 

865
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,280
record the Verizon spot, he 
goes, hey, he goes, things have 

866
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,600
started to change a little bit 
for you and Sal on Reddit. 

867
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,400
I go, what the fuck is what's 
why don't you know what Reddit 

868
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,840
is? 
I mean, I know, you know, Serena

869
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,480
is like married to the the 
entrepreneur who started, I 

870
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:45,920
believe started started Reddit, 
right? 

871
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,880
So I mean, I've heard of it. 
I don't I don't know what it is 

872
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,800
and I really didn't care to ever
find out what it was. 

873
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,480
So he's like, Oh yeah, people 
are starting to really dig BT 

874
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:55,960
and Sal. 
I won't say the name of the 

875
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,880
other show because I don't want 
to be that guy. 

876
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,640
I guess obviously Sal and I were
getting crushed when we first 

877
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,400
started. 
Probably the Carl Bank stuff and

878
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:07,160
the other things too. 
But anyway, it was about they're

879
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,720
like, no, that the energy 
started shit. 

880
00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:11,720
Now they're attacking another 
show and you guys are starting 

881
00:43:11,720 --> 00:43:13,520
to get a lot of love. 
You started to get embraced and 

882
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,280
starting to get received by the 
Reddit community. 

883
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,200
I'm like great to the as long as
they listen every day. 

884
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,480
Yeah, I don't know. 
So I really did not even know. 

885
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,920
I didn't even I I've never been.
I don't have a Reddit account. 

886
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,560
I never will. 
No. 

887
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,240
Why the hell would I do that? 
No, it's funny. 

888
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:34,480
I was, I mean, I was looking you
up the other day on it, but but 

889
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,840
it's nothing that I put out 
there. 

890
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,640
No, no, no, it cuz Reddit, it's 
more of like a, I'd say it's 

891
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,920
like a community space where 
people discuss. 

892
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,760
So there'd be like posts where 
someone be like BT is starting a

893
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,240
new show unleashed where he's 
doing da da da da da da. 

894
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,920
And then like people in the 
comments would kind of just 

895
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,640
discuss it and be like, Hey, 
good for him or, you know, 

896
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,320
whatever or horrible. 
Move by the station, get rid of 

897
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:58,640
that, stuff like that. 
Yeah, I got you. 

898
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,040
I saw a few of those. 
All right, So no, I have since 

899
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,920
leaned into it like I I at least
know what it is now. 

900
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,040
And I knew about the concept, 
but I didn't really know. 

901
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:17,510
Yeah, that's basically what it 
seems like. 

902
00:44:17,830 --> 00:44:19,430
So when he told me that I'm 
like, alright, good. 

903
00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:22,870
Well, that that must be good. 
And then I'm like, how do you 

904
00:44:22,870 --> 00:44:26,510
even find it? 
So I just googled WFI made, I 

905
00:44:26,510 --> 00:44:30,070
think it was WFA and Reddit, and
I see this whole page come up. 

906
00:44:30,390 --> 00:44:35,120
I'm like, what the hell is this?
So I click on it and I'm like, 

907
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,240
they've got all different shows 
and all different topics and 

908
00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:40,520
clowning on. 
It's mostly clowning on people 

909
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,440
and hating on people. 
I mean, nobody espouses any sort

910
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,800
of love or affection there. 
So I'm reading. 

911
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,720
I'm like, wow, they really were 
against me and Sal even more 

912
00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:51,400
than I thought, right? 
And then what do you know? 

913
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,120
And this is really life. 
When they made the decision to 

914
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:58,880
move on from BT and Sal, the 
tone completely changed on 

915
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,880
Reddit. 
And I'm like, OK, all right, so 

916
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,800
that's why you can't take that 
stuff too serious. 

917
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,600
And again, I'd much better. 
I'd much rather be like than 

918
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,520
hate it. 
I mean, I've always openly 

919
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,240
admitted that, but I don't know 
it. 

920
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,040
It's just that one little 
comment to me is really funny. 

921
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,840
But really, I'm still, you know,
I'm still inviting you to come 

922
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,120
back. 
But anytime you want a volley 

923
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:23,240
back is the program director. 
You know, I'm, I'm got, you 

924
00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:25,640
know, maybe you've got your own 
little YouTube channel set up in

925
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,560
mommy's basement. 
You got your 13 followers and, 

926
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,080
you know, maybe we can do a 
collaboration or something. 

927
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,320
Tell you how it's done. 
Hey, come on, dude. 

928
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,920
All right, let me see here what 
else is going back. 

929
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,320
You know this this has popped up
a little bit. 

930
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,480
We got lying here. 
We got eleven O 182 Geno back to

931
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,040
The Jets. 
That would be interesting Yeah, 

932
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,520
I know I mean this listen, if 
just tuning in. 

933
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:52,000
This is not a referendum on of 
hate or trolls as just I kind of

934
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,200
branched off into one of the 
topics. 

935
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:58,000
I started the show a very 
calamari heavy because we are at

936
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,640
a very important point of the 
NFL calendar now by the way, we 

937
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,320
will find out today and you need
to be so I know you know this J 

938
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,840
Rob, but you need to be pecking 
away and hunting all of the 

939
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,240
pertinent jets accounts out 
there NFL accounts because by 

940
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:15,600
4:00 PM Eastern today, the teams
need to make the designation as 

941
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,680
to whether or not they're going 
to offer the transition or the 

942
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,960
franchise. 
The franchise tag for Breeze 

943
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:27,560
hall is 14.1 or 14.314 point 1. 
I think the transition tag is 

944
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,880
11.3. 
Obviously if you and they're 

945
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,880
going to slap the tag on him, 
he's not going to walk out the 

946
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,080
door. 
I thought it's I saw something 

947
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,920
from Connor Hughes, who I think 
is great covering The Jets and 

948
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,040
some others before I came on the
show. 

949
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,160
Keep that up there. 
I'll get to it that it doesn't 

950
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,120
look as if they're, even though 
they're trying that they will 

951
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,880
have a deal sold by or set 
settled upon by 4:00 PM today, 

952
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,680
which means they're going to 
have to slap one of the tags. 

953
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,720
Now if you do the franchise tag,
it's $3,000,000 more, but it 

954
00:46:57,720 --> 00:47:00,040
gives you a window obviously, I 
think till July. 

955
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,560
I've got it written down 
somewhere July something where 

956
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,840
then you can still work out a 
long term deal. 

957
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,800
But the problem is you've got to
carry that number on the cap and

958
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,200
it's it's applied to the monies 
and The Jets are obviously 

959
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,520
trying to build out their 
roster. 

960
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,560
Not that you couldn't do it, but
if you do the 14 one, the 

961
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,640
franchise, no other team can do 
it. 

962
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,320
That's it. 
He's a Jet no matter what. 

963
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,600
If you do the, I know that some 
of you, many of you know this, 

964
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,040
but if you do the transition, 
it's more appealing because it's

965
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,200
$3,000,000 less. 
But then obviously other teams 

966
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,360
can come in and, and try to, you
know, offer contracts, whatever,

967
00:47:33,720 --> 00:47:35,680
blah, blah, blah. 
So that that's more of a direct 

968
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,400
way the franchise tag to make 
sure Bruce doesn't leave the 

969
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,800
building, which he's not. 
I always thought that it's funny

970
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,360
based on what it looks like is 
going to happen. 

971
00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:47,160
That's really the opposite of 
what I basically thought was 

972
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,360
going to happen. 
I thought one, they would find a

973
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,360
way to find common ground. 
Ten $11 million long term deal, 

974
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,840
30 something guaranteed, you 
know, very, very team friendly. 

975
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,160
Breeze happy, solidify the bag, 
all good. 

976
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,680
And he should because he's very 
good. 

977
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,080
He's very young. 
He's going to be paid like it's 

978
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,520
top five, top 6 running back, 
the markets changing a bit. 

979
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,640
But I, I, I don't think that 
that's going to happen. 

980
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,080
And I thought it was going to be
either #1 long term deal #2 

981
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,680
transition tag #3 franchise. 
I'm going to actually flip that 

982
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,720
where I think as of where I sit 
now, you know, just about 

983
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,280
whatever it is, I don't know, a 
couple hours away from the 

984
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,240
deadline. 
I think it's probably more 

985
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:26,200
probable that it would be the 
franchise tag, then the 

986
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,640
transition, then the long term 
deal. 

987
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,400
So we'll see. 
All right, let's get to this 

988
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,960
here. 
MMM. 

989
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,080
Iano. 
What's up, Mike? 

990
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,600
Thank you for that, Mike. 
Very, very nice. 

991
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,720
Thank you, dude. 
Jet should trade for. 

992
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,120
Yeah. 
Yeah, maybe he lives and 

993
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:44,800
breathes football, has it 
mentally good athleticism, 6325 

994
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,720
years old, makes 5,000,000 bucks
a year, Use the cap space and 

995
00:48:47,720 --> 00:48:51,000
picks to build the team. 
Yeah, I mean, there's a thank 

996
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,320
you for that. 
Again, thanks for checking in. 

997
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:53,600
Dude. 
There's a lot of targets out 

998
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,720
there, not just for The Jets, 
for a lot of teams. 

999
00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:58,600
I mean, I started this by 
throwing the Falcons in there, 

1000
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,440
the Vikings, The Jets, the 
Dolphins, all tenuous 

1001
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,880
quarterback situations, varying 
degrees of where they are. 

1002
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,720
Vikings are trying to win right 
away. 

1003
00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:08,640
Jets are just trying to elevate 
the floor. 

1004
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,160
Dolphins are, you know, kind of 
in between Falcons based on 

1005
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,160
their talent, they got a lot of 
talent OR somewhere in between 

1006
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,480
and they don't love Penix. 
Obviously Cousins didn't work 

1007
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,680
out. 
So there's, let me see, 24689. 

1008
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,080
There's nine names that I've 
given you, Willis and summer, 

1009
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,800
free agent, summer trades, 
Willis, Kyler Murray, Kirk 

1010
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,760
Cousins, Mariota, Tua, Gino, 
Davis Mills, Mac Jones, and then

1011
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,560
Tanna McGee. 
And I, I would love Tanna McGee 

1012
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,240
and then maybe Tyrod is the 
backup and then a quarterback in

1013
00:49:37,240 --> 00:49:38,680
the draft. 
These are all the things that 

1014
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,480
they've got do and they're not 
alone because if you don't have 

1015
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,200
a quarterback, you are just 
perpetually hunting one down 

1016
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:49,200
because you can't win without 1.
So when I it's funny anytime and

1017
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,280
I think Evan, I think Evan was 
was. 

1018
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:52,760
I don't want to misrepresent 
Evan. 

1019
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,240
I think Evan was for Kyla 
Murray. 

1020
00:49:55,240 --> 00:49:59,400
I think maybe either way, I was 
not all right. 

1021
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,600
And because I was just thinking 
of the concept of Kyler Murray, 

1022
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,640
he's never going to win you a 
Super Bowl. 

1023
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,320
Now, he will elevate the floor 
and and I'm good with that. 

1024
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,960
But the other thing about Kyler 
Murray is he's just not all in 

1025
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,720
on football. 
That's the scout report. 

1026
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,120
Listen, I'm not in his mansion 
or his beautiful condo. 

1027
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,200
When he gets home for the 
facility, I don't know what time

1028
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,960
he parks his car and walks into 
the facility to scour film, but 

1029
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:28,280
everything emanating out of 
Arizona is that he is kind of 

1030
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,640
one of these Hollywood 
quarterbacks who's half in. 

1031
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,880
He's not a real leader. 
And then he makes in the fact 

1032
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,640
that. 
And now The Jets can absorb 

1033
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,040
this, as I chronicle before, 
very few teams can. 

1034
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:41,040
But he's got a $50 million price
tag this year and he's got two 

1035
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,360
more year, you know, a lot, a 
lot more guaranteed money. 

1036
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,800
And you know, I gave you the 
numbers and and that's that's 

1037
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,480
that's not that's not good. 
I can live with that. 

1038
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,200
If you're a baller and you're 
all in and the situation just 

1039
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,240
didn't work out. 
If I know you're a film head and

1040
00:50:55,240 --> 00:50:57,400
you getting in there and your 
guy who's going to galvanized 

1041
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,800
the team in the weight room, on 
the practice field, in the 

1042
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,200
classroom, you know, OTAs and 
stuff. 

1043
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,800
And and maybe Kyler Murray would
take a very different approach 

1044
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:07,920
with a new team. 
I mean, he better otherwise he 

1045
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:12,280
could be out of the league soon.
But I am, I'm of a firm belief, 

1046
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:16,920
I'm a staunch believer in this, 
that your trajectory can change.

1047
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,800
Certainly, I'm talking primarily
from the quarterback position. 

1048
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:24,640
Your trajectory can radically 
change whether it was, you know,

1049
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,680
who's a good name to give you. 
I'm going to try to give you an 

1050
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,760
old one here, Rich Gannon. 
All right, Rich Gannon, I just 

1051
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:31,560
want to write down the name 
Rich. 

1052
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,240
I don't want to forget it. 
Your trajectory can change if 

1053
00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:39,360
you are a quarterback who is 
drafted to a bad spot, right? 

1054
00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:44,200
And poor coaching or multiple 
coaches and multiple GMs and 

1055
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,920
different systems, like maybe 
even if the head coach stays. 

1056
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,400
But the first year you've got 
one system and then the OC gets 

1057
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,640
whacked and a new guy comes in 
and he's got different schemes. 

1058
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,080
And you try to, you know, you're
trying to learn that if you 

1059
00:51:56,080 --> 00:52:00,080
finally figured out the first 
one like that swallows up a lot 

1060
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,040
of talented players. 
It just does. 

1061
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:07,200
All right, so that is that that 
is the realness and that is the 

1062
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,160
reality of being an NFL 
quarterback. 

1063
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,760
But at the very least, like if 
you don't have a couple of non 

1064
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,720
negotiable traits for me, I just
can't have you in my building 

1065
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,440
unless there are a ton of vets 
that you trust and a coach that 

1066
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,280
has some winning equity and and 
stable ownership, you know, and 

1067
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,400
AGM has been around the block 
for a little bit, knows what 

1068
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,640
he's doing. 
Like to if, if Colin Murray's 

1069
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,320
not going to get his act 
together and become a diligent 

1070
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,640
pro, and if he hasn't by the age
of 28, he's probably not going 

1071
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:37,240
to do it anytime soon, then why 
would I trust Aaron Glenn, who I

1072
00:52:37,240 --> 00:52:41,480
like and I think could be, I 
think he's a leader of men, but 

1073
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,560
then he's got to win. 
Then he was awful last year, as 

1074
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,480
was the team and Mooji, who's 
good, but they're all young and 

1075
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,000
Woody's a clown. 
Ownership is horrendous. 

1076
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,800
Like is that the best situation?
No, I think probably the best 

1077
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,120
situation is the Vikings for 
somebody like Kyla Murray, which

1078
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,000
is why the odds on favorite, the
betting odds that were just 

1079
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,200
released, the Vikings are the 
number one favorite to get him 

1080
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,680
and The Jets are #2 and there's 
a few other teams out there, so 

1081
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,160
I don't know that just to finish
that Rich Gannon thought. 

1082
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,880
Rich Gannon. 
Hey, J Rod, do me a favor, bud. 

1083
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,840
Yeah, what's up? 
Type up Rich Gannon stats. 

1084
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,880
All right. 
You ever hear Rich Cannon? 

1085
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,400
It's a long time ago. 
If you didn't, it's not a big 

1086
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:20,120
deal. 
Don't worry about it. 

1087
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,760
You ever hear Rich? 
OK, it's all good. 

1088
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,720
He's not even really doing TV 
anymore. 

1089
00:53:25,720 --> 00:53:28,080
So I, I I'm not surprised you 
don't know him. 

1090
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,760
It's all good. 
Rich GAT Rich Gatham was a 

1091
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,320
quarterback who can run, who 
could throw and who bounced 

1092
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,680
around early. 
And I just want you to pull up 

1093
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,280
the names or the teams that he 
played. 

1094
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:39,480
I know he was on the Raiders at 
the end. 

1095
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,520
Obviously, then that's going to 
lead to my point. 

1096
00:53:41,720 --> 00:53:44,080
So Vikings, Chiefs, Vikings, 
right. 

1097
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,400
No, keep going. 
Was that it? 

1098
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,240
Chiefs, Washington or Vikings? 
Washington. 

1099
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,480
Chiefs, Oakland. 
Yeah, when they were still in 

1100
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:56,120
Oakland. 
OK. 

1101
00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:59,000
How many years take out the 
Raiders in that equation, right.

1102
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,480
How many years for those other 
three teams you mentioned, how 

1103
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,480
many years of that encompass 
8910? 

1104
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,560
Something like that played a 
long time, 10. 

1105
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:13,680
Yeah, OK. 10 years Now this is 
also cherry picking an example 

1106
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,000
to the contrary because there's 
a lot of examples that aren't as

1107
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:21,880
rewarding as as Rich Cannon. 10 
years, A very transient, very 

1108
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,960
nomadic NFL quarterback 
existence bouncing around, 

1109
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,840
Couldn't stick a little start 
here, a little back up there 

1110
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,080
trying to grind. 
Like if you look at that, it's 

1111
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:32,720
not like he started all those 
years. 

1112
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:34,920
He really was a backup in a lot 
of those situations. 

1113
00:54:35,240 --> 00:54:39,560
He goes to the Raiders and I 
believe in 9019. 

1114
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:40,520
Hold on. 
No, no, no. 

1115
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,240
I believe Rich Gannon in 2002 
was the league MVP. 

1116
00:54:45,240 --> 00:54:48,000
Can you verify that for me and 
then give me his stats in O2 

1117
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,560
with the then Oakland Raiders? 
I know he won the MVP. 

1118
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,440
I thought it was O2 and I'm 
pretty sure he was like 37 or 38

1119
00:54:55,440 --> 00:55:00,240
years old as you look for that. 
He was definitely old pulling it

1120
00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:03,240
up. 
Let's see, I don't have his age.

1121
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,360
OK, well let's see. 
He was born in 1965. 

1122
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,400
S in 2002 he would have been 
what is that, 3780? 

1123
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:16,080
59537 like I said, yeah, 3738 
right and and what were you when

1124
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:17,360
did he win the MVP? 
Was it O2? 

1125
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:18,600
I want to make sure that I'm on 
there. 

1126
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,720
It gets lost to them in the 
playoffs and I'm pretty sure it 

1127
00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:26,480
was O2 either way, he won the by
the way, just the best way to do

1128
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,800
this. 
Proreference.com not now it's 

1129
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,680
it's all good. 
I'm I'm I'm in the neighborhood 

1130
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:35,120
enough go to proreference.com. 
You'll see the age you'll see 

1131
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:36,720
the team. 
And if you go to the far right, 

1132
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,800
it'll have awards like, you 
know, MVP Pro Bowl and then 

1133
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,680
anything in bowl led the league,
all that stuff. 

1134
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,840
So let so as I finish my 
thought, if you could find it, 

1135
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,240
let me just finish my thought. 
Rich Gannon while he bounced 

1136
00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:50,600
around and again, very transient
couldn't stick. 

1137
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,960
No, no, no traction. 
The reason why Rich Gannon was 

1138
00:55:53,960 --> 00:56:04,360
able to pop and win the NB. 
Raiders at that point, Porter 

1139
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,040
was there. 
They had a good run game, they 

1140
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,840
had a good defense and they lost
in the Super Bowl, right? 

1141
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:13,800
So there's a reason why somebody
like Rich Gannon was doing TV 

1142
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:18,920
for CBS for a long time, because
he was a a film guy. 

1143
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,920
He was in the trenches. 
His intellect was through the 

1144
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,320
roof there. 
There's a reason why Rich Gannon

1145
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:28,800
kept getting start chances 
around the NFL, and that seems 

1146
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,320
to be counter to what Kyler 
Murray is. 

1147
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,360
Doesn't seem like he loves 
watching film. 

1148
00:56:33,720 --> 00:56:36,240
You know, if it doesn't work 
out, wherever he goes next, 

1149
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,680
because he's still pretty young,
he'll get one more shot. 

1150
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,600
But he's not. 
If this doesn't pick up soon, 

1151
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,200
he's not going to be playing 
football at the age of 37 like 

1152
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,960
Rich was, and he's certainly not
going to win the MVP at the age 

1153
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,360
of 37 or 38 like Rich Gannon 
did. 

1154
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:53,320
I can promise you that. 
So. 2002 MVP, 67% completion 

1155
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:57,200
percentage, 26 touchdowns, 4700 
yards and. 

1156
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:58,960
Also a runner. 
Rich Gannon could beat you with 

1157
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,800
his wheels too. 
Rich was a very good athlete. 

1158
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,480
So ideally you try to find 
somebody like that. 

1159
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,400
Now, I'll give you an example of
somebody who wasn't quite as 

1160
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:11,000
talented but at a a kind of 
similar trajectory. 

1161
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,280
That's Ryan Fitzpatrick, who was
rented out of Harvard and 

1162
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,800
started in camp with the 
Bengals, if I recollect. 

1163
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,600
Yeah, I think it was the 
Bengals, Right. 

1164
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,480
And then obviously, the Bills 
wound up giving him some money, 

1165
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,680
didn't work out, bounced around 
a little bit and wound up coming

1166
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,280
to The Jets. 
And even though The Jets didn't 

1167
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:33,000
make the playoffs that year in 
2015 with Todd Bowles, he broke 

1168
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,040
Vinnie's touchdown records, you 
know, for season. 

1169
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,120
And he was a really good player 
because he was smart and because

1170
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,200
he loved film. 
And there's a reason why he's on

1171
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:45,200
prime now doing TV commentary 
talking about the NFL because he

1172
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,120
is a student of the game. 
Kyler Murray doesn't seem to be 

1173
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,480
that incredibly problematic now.
So, all right, well, you know, 

1174
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,840
if if you don't want to trade 
for Kyler Murray and the way 

1175
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,880
that I would if you missed it, 
very brief reset because I want 

1176
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,360
to get to Kirk Cousins as well 
for some of these other teams. 

1177
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:04,080
The way that you do that is you 
entice the Cardinals to trade 

1178
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,400
him by giving you a draft pick. 
Yo, Arizona. 

1179
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:08,760
Yeah, it's Boojie. 
What's going on, man? 

1180
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:10,320
Hey, we'll take Kyler off your 
hands. 

1181
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:11,600
Yeah, well, 50 million next 
year. 

1182
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,000
We could absorb it. 
We got plenty of money. 

1183
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,960
We're good. 
We need a third round pick to 

1184
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,000
make it happen. 
You've got to give us a decent 

1185
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,520
draft pick, otherwise we're not 
interested. 

1186
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,120
Hey, we can't give you a draft 
pick. 

1187
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:21,480
Click. 
All right, go figure out your 

1188
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:22,720
finances yourself. 
Have fun. 

1189
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,360
You're not going to do it like 
you're going to have to release 

1190
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,400
him and then you're going to 
have to spread the cap over a 

1191
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,560
couple of years that I and by 
the way, I do think he's going 

1192
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,280
to be released. 
I don't think anybody's going to

1193
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,840
trade for him, but only because 
The Jets have all that money. 

1194
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,400
It's at least interesting enough
to give the Cardinals something 

1195
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,840
to think about. 
You know, and to me, you know, 

1196
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,360
you think about like the the 
framework of a deal, the art of 

1197
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:49,000
a deal, getting people to think 
and then eventually do something

1198
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,040
that they might not be inclined 
to do. 

1199
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,440
You've just got to be ultra 
creative. 

1200
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,040
And the easy thing is to sit 
around and wait for somebody to 

1201
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:57,720
get cut. 
I mean, anybody could do that. 

1202
00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:59,960
I could do that. 
All right, you got cut. 

1203
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,680
Now pick them up, get better and
minimum. 

1204
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,600
All right, sure, that's easy. 
Put them in there. 

1205
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,800
We've got a quarterback. 
But I think the more proactive, 

1206
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:13,240
more compelling way to attack 
any of the any of these moves is

1207
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:17,000
to be a forward thinker. 
And I wonder if Mooji or anybody

1208
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,920
else is thinking about that. 
Now I'm going to give you 

1209
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:24,520
another name, and every time I 
hear it, I'm like God, because 

1210
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:29,160
it just represents blah, all 
right? 

1211
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,040
It's Kirk Cousins. 
Now. 

1212
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:40,720
Kirk Cousins to me would be on 
the cheap, pretty, and I hate to

1213
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,920
say it because I don't want to 
watch Kirk Cousins play football

1214
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,520
this year. 
To me, he would be a perfect get

1215
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,040
for The Jets. 
Now, maybe not more than Tanner 

1216
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,280
McGee because there's upside and
he's cheap, all right. 

1217
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,920
But if you get Tanner McGee and 
he can't play, even though he 

1218
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:57,200
looks like he could play with 
the Eagles. 

1219
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:58,800
But then again, that's the 
Eagles and we're talking about 

1220
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,640
The Jets, you know, or trade for
Mac Jones, which I'd also be 

1221
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,920
very amenable to. 
Gino doesn't do it for me. 

1222
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,280
Tua doesn't do it to it in cold 
weather. 2 with that weak pop 

1223
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,680
gun arm. 
No thank you, Mariota. 

1224
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,280
He's going to be on the table 
because he's going to be cheap 

1225
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:15,880
and he's a good veteran like 
Kirk Cousins. 

1226
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,800
But at least the cell job with 
Kirk Cousins would be this from 

1227
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:25,040
a Jets point of view. 
Not for the Vikings maybe, but I

1228
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,920
don't think the I think the 
Viking, I think the Miami 

1229
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:31,880
Dolphins are thinking more bold.
Maybe for the Browns to help 

1230
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,680
Shidor Sanders out a little bit,
but really for The Jets is 

1231
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,280
because of the bare minimum, you
know that Kirk Cousins is going 

1232
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,880
to raise the floor and you know,
is he going to raise it by 7 or 

1233
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:43,600
eight wins? 
No. 

1234
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:44,880
Are The Jets going to be a 
playoff team? 

1235
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,120
No. 
I mean, unless they had this 

1236
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,080
ridiculous all time draft and 
everybody pops whatever and like

1237
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,000
everything they do in free 
agency is magic. 

1238
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,320
And who knows? 
But the likelihood of that 

1239
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:57,160
happening, not very high. 
But what Kirk Cousins does and 

1240
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,680
they are in they are in dire 
need of this. 

1241
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:04,280
They sorely need this. 
They just need an adult to come 

1242
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:08,000
into the building, understand 
the playbook, which you'll do in

1243
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,440
a minute, be able to express 
that to the teammates, see like 

1244
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,600
1 to his teammates. 
One thing, it's one thing to 

1245
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:17,560
have really good coaching, but 
the most effective leadership 

1246
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,760
comes from within. 
You know, that's why a guy like 

1247
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,720
Ryan Fitzpatrick, who I 
mentioned before, proved to be a

1248
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,840
very viable quarterback around 
the NFL and and guarded respect 

1249
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,360
everywhere he went because 
number 1, he knew the playbook 

1250
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,600
inside and out and, and, and and
the guys knew that. 

1251
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,120
And you know, he wasn't afraid 
to put his pants down and and 

1252
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:41,880
take a hit and, you know, first 
down, get absolutely crushed by 

1253
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,080
a linebacker, a safety coming up
in the box. 

1254
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:45,960
And that resonates with with 
guys. 

1255
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:47,920
All right, it does. 
There's an energy there. 

1256
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,320
Now Kirk has a different energy.
He's not going to run around 

1257
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:51,800
like that. 
Can't move at all really. 

1258
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,880
And in a lot of ways he's more 
prototypical for Frank Ryan, who

1259
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,720
wants that big body pocket 
passer. 

1260
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,720
So there's a fit scheme wise and
the moment, especially if The 

1261
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,800
Jets were to draft like Makai 
Lemon 16 or another receiver, 

1262
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,600
16-GO defensive 2 or even 
defensive, they trade out of the

1263
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,040
two spot. 
They're going defense with that 

1264
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,080
first pick no matter what. 
Book it that's done. 

1265
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,600
And then, you know, 16, they 
could go receiver if you have 

1266
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:19,880
Kirk Cousins on the practice 
field daily, right, with Garrett

1267
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:21,840
Wilson, who's the pro's pro 
anyway. 

1268
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,760
I mean, think about what he's 
done with the mess of 

1269
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,840
quarterback play that he's been 
subjected to. 

1270
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:29,640
What a shame. 
I mean, could you get the guy 

1271
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,560
quarterback? 
Jeez, what would his numbers be 

1272
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,080
if he actually had somebody who 
could throw the ball right? 

1273
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:39,760
But if you have a veteran, a 
stable force like Kirk and it's 

1274
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:43,200
Garrett and it's breeze hole who
will definitely be back and it's

1275
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,880
a young rookie drafted inside 
the top 20 and it's, you know, 

1276
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,080
Mitchell who they who they 
brought in. 

1277
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,080
You know, there there's, 
there's, there's there's ways to

1278
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,360
look at this and say, OK, now we
can at least at least get a 

1279
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,920
little momentum and at least get
the wheels turning a little bit 

1280
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:03,640
to go from a laughingstock and 
an absolute joke, all right to 

1281
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:09,200
at least a representative team 
and a functional locker room and

1282
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:13,360
A and a building that is 
healthier and more energized and

1283
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,120
more buttoned up and more 
intelligent and all those 

1284
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,880
things. 
So as much again, I'm not going 

1285
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,080
to be excited like I was when 
The Jets got at Rogers. 

1286
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:22,360
I mean that was that was 
different. 

1287
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,000
Now that was euphoria. 
Even though it didn't work out. 

1288
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:29,920
I would understand and I would 
accept Kirk Cousins and you know

1289
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,680
I'd be excited about will this 
Murray only if you get some 

1290
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,840
trade value back where you get 
him for a couple of mil on the 

1291
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,840
veteran cheap right Cousins. 
I just explained Mariota's in 

1292
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,400
play. 
Want no part of to not really 

1293
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:44,480
down with a Geno reunion. 
Davis Mills OK, OK, kind of 

1294
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,720
interested. 
Mac Jones, I would trade for him

1295
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:48,320
depending upon what the Niners 
want back. 

1296
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,200
And I've already touched on Tana
McGee. 

1297
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,760
Armand is amazing. 
What's up, Armand, would you 

1298
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,280
trade a second round pick for 
Tana McGee? 

1299
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,120
No way. 
I'm not giving up a second round

1300
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,320
pick. 
Zach Rosenblatt put out an 

1301
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,440
article that a quarterback like 
McGee that The Jets would have 

1302
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,880
to trade for will cost a premium
pick. 

1303
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:05,320
I'm not giving up a second round
pick. 

1304
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:06,400
What? 
Why would you do that? 

1305
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:10,440
No, you don't do that. 
I mean, you want to tell me it 

1306
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:14,360
becomes a conditional second 
round pick that starts as a You 

1307
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:15,920
probably don't get him as a 
fourth round or so. 

1308
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,480
It might have to be 1/3, and I 
don't think The Jets have a 

1309
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:21,480
third round there this year. 
So they have to tap into some 

1310
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:22,960
other stuff and Mooji can make 
that happen. 

1311
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,480
I'm not worried about that. 
Like logistically and the 

1312
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,240
dynamics of of making that 
happen. 

1313
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,520
He'll figure it out. 
Would I give up a third that 

1314
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,720
becomes a 2 with performance or 
playing time? 

1315
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:33,520
Yeah, I'd be open to that, to 
that. 

1316
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:38,040
Sure, there's intrigue with Tana
McGee, but like just to give up 

1317
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:42,720
a set the top of the second 
round pick with no built in, you

1318
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:46,440
know, benchmarks or no way, I'm 
not doing that now. 

1319
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,080
I'm not taking a shot at Zack's 
reporting. 

1320
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:49,440
I'm just saying I wouldn't do 
it. 

1321
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,240
No, no. 
And if other teams are willing 

1322
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,120
to do that, well, then good for 
them. 

1323
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,560
There's also a part of me that 
wants to say, I'm going to stop 

1324
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,560
short of saying this, but wants 
to kind of say, man, if The Jets

1325
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,680
value him enough where they 
would do that, maybe I've got to

1326
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,640
dial back the resistance there. 
That just seems inordinately 

1327
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,000
high for somebody who hasn't 
done a whole lot. 

1328
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,760
Second round pick, man, Come on.
All right, let me get let me get

1329
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,440
Smith Jones, 6898. 
All right, Tennessee Titans fan 

1330
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:18,520
here. 
What about another? 

1331
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,320
What about another trade? 
Brandon Will Levis for some 

1332
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,720
competition to quarterback? 
His days in Tennessee are over. 

1333
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,480
All right, let me ask you this. 
I know that they're over. 

1334
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,760
He was in. 
He was a very appealing 

1335
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:30,600
prospect. 
I watched him in Kentucky a few 

1336
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,360
times. 
He's got some energies. 

1337
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:36,240
He's always got a little bit of,
I don't know, he's got a little 

1338
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:37,480
Jackson dart there. 
I don't know. 

1339
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,280
It's just the way he looks or 
the way he presents himself. 

1340
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,400
But I know he's got a big arm. 
I know he's a pretty good 

1341
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,400
athlete. 
Didn't work, went sideways. 

1342
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:47,560
Yeah, I mean, I guess, but I've 
got to have something more 

1343
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,200
stable. 
Like I can't have Will Levis and

1344
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:57,120
I and Tyrod Taylor and then some
other early ish, you know, draft

1345
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,480
dart kind of hit the board and 
say, all right, let's make that 

1346
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,040
our quarterback room. 
Because where are you really 

1347
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,480
going from that? 
If, if, if you were to do you 

1348
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,600
like, you've got to structure 
this in a way that makes sense 

1349
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,560
where if you draft somebody's 
getting reps like you got at 

1350
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,760
least look at that. 
And if you were to trade for 

1351
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:16,600
Will Levis and then draft 
somebody and then have somebody 

1352
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,080
like Tyrod Taylor, you have to 
have a veteran there because you

1353
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,840
can't have three kids or three. 
You know, Levis wasn't done a 

1354
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,640
damn thing in the NFLI Know we 
started a lot, but and I, I saw 

1355
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:28,960
him in person. 
I, I did a trip The Jets Titans 

1356
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,640
and The Jets won that game. 
It was actually pretty cool. 

1357
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:39,160
And you just can't have like 
Levis and I don't know, Brady 

1358
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:42,480
Cook and then drafting somebody 
that's that's not going to work 

1359
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,160
out. 
J Rod, are you into I think that

1360
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:46,920
I know the answer already here, 
everybody. 

1361
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,920
BT Unleashed fam, are you into 
the WBC at all? 

1362
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,200
WBC No. 
Not, not, won't be I. 

1363
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,680
Mean, I can't. 
I mean, I can tell you I'm 

1364
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,080
definitely going to be watching 
this year, OK? 

1365
01:06:58,600 --> 01:06:59,960
Yeah. 
I mean, I would not be. 

1366
01:06:59,960 --> 01:07:01,880
I got some homework to do. 
I got some research. 

1367
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:03,840
I'm going to be locked in. 
Yeah. 

1368
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:05,200
Have you? 
Ever watched before? 

1369
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:06,080
No, I. 
Don't believe. 

1370
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:11,000
I mean, not one pitch with my 
brother potentially back in the 

1371
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,000
day. 
Yeah, your brother. 

1372
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:13,200
Played baseball, right? 
Yeah. 

1373
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:17,160
Yeah, he played in high school. 
Little, I mean JV in high 

1374
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:20,000
school, I think. 
Yeah, senior year. 

1375
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,600
I got you. 
JV is a senior. 

1376
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:24,440
That's a rough look right there.
I. 

1377
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:25,760
Play, though, I'm trying to 
think. 

1378
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:26,720
I got you. 
I got you. 

1379
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,040
So the I'm excited for it. 
I'm excited. 

1380
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:31,440
I'm not going over the top nuts 
here. 

1381
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,320
I'm excited for it. 
I was messing around with a 

1382
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,240
potential line up here. 
So it's starting up. 

1383
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:37,920
Obviously. 
I think it starts tomorrow. 

1384
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,840
Some teams play tomorrow. 
I know we play Brazil Friday 

1385
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,880
night at 8 and that's going to 
be on Fox. 

1386
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,160
It's national game. 
And obviously if you're a Yankee

1387
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,600
fan, Judge the captain. 
I saw the video yesterday, Judge

1388
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:49,840
talking to the team. 
Pretty cool. 

1389
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:51,680
I've got a little lineup for you
here. 

1390
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:53,360
Yeah. 
Listen, I don't know what 

1391
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:54,760
they're going to do. 
It's going to what they're going

1392
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:56,280
to do. 
It's going to be some variation 

1393
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,480
of this, you would imagine. 
How about how about we got Witt 

1394
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,880
playing short Batten first, 
Schwarber batting second play in

1395
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,840
DH, Aaron judging the three spot
play in right field, Bryce 

1396
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,160
Harper first Batten 4th, Cal 
roller. 

1397
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,040
You can even flip that if you 
want to do that. 

1398
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,400
Cal roller behind the plate 
batting 5. 

1399
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,840
You got the Roman Anthony, who's
a stud left field batting 6, 

1400
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,720
Bregman in the seven hole 
playing third P Crow Armstrong 

1401
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,600
center field batting 8 and then 
Bryce Tarang second base bat 

1402
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,760
9th. 
Now the only thing, and I get 

1403
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:25,319
it, I do this is not me knocking
them. 

1404
01:08:25,319 --> 01:08:28,080
It's not pushback. 
But this is kind of one of the 

1405
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:31,319
issues with the WBC and we 
should handle Brazil fairly 

1406
01:08:31,319 --> 01:08:34,359
easily. 
And you know, I'm I'm hoping for

1407
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:36,960
I'm hoping for the hole. 
I want to I want to see I want 

1408
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:38,000
to see us win this. 
Yes, ma'am. 

1409
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,920
Usually I kind of jump in just 
to watch all the great players. 

1410
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:43,520
I I love watch. 
I said this yesterday. 

1411
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,279
I'm not going to go much into, 
but I love watching the DRI, 

1412
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,279
love watching Puerto Rico. 
I love watching Japan. 

1413
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:52,399
All the Japanese players seem to
have the same approach, like 

1414
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,880
very similar stances and you 
know, they almost look like 

1415
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,760
they're a lot of the same. 
I don't think they're a carbon 

1416
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,000
copy of each other. 
The problem though, now we got 

1417
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:02,960
schemes. 
You got Logan Webb, you got Ryan

1418
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:06,560
Yarborough and you got school. 
But school is only making the 

1419
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,640
one start and that's going to be
early. 

1420
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,680
I don't know if he's pitching 
against Brazil, but like United 

1421
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:14,120
States advances, he's checking 
out. 

1422
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,439
He's going back down to Lakeland
to get with the Tigers, which I 

1423
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:17,720
get. 
I understand that. 

1424
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,399
You know, he's got a lot of 
money coming his way. 

1425
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,240
He won his arbitration 30 
something, $1,000,000. 

1426
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,920
How offensive was that? 
He was asking for 32 and the 

1427
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,279
Tiger said, no, we'll give you 
19 for Tirich school. 

1428
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:30,240
I mean, I mean, how dumb are 
you? 

1429
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:32,479
If anything, you got to bite the
bullet. 

1430
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,960
You got to give him a lot more 
than that to at least give 

1431
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,520
yourself a chance to. 
And they're not going to resign 

1432
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:39,760
him. 
He's not. 

1433
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,040
He's going to be with the 
Dodgers, the Yankees, the Mets 

1434
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:43,479
or the field. 
I think the Phillies will make a

1435
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,399
big move as well. 
And Toronto maybe like those are

1436
01:09:46,399 --> 01:09:49,200
the five teams. 
But he's going to leave Detroit.

1437
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,200
And now you have to think he's 
definitely going to leave 

1438
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,800
because the way these 
arbitration cases go, you know, 

1439
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,240
you don't really fixate on what 
you do. 

1440
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:58,760
Well, as crazy as this sounds, 
you sit down, you got the 

1441
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,800
arbiter, you know, you got 
school bull, you got his Rep, 

1442
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:03,160
you got the Tigers, blah, blah, 
blah. 

1443
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:06,120
And then the arbiter sitting 
there and you're hearing both 

1444
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,040
sides. 
We deserve this, we want this. 

1445
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,320
He's done this, of course. 
Come on then, you got the 

1446
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,840
tigers, The tigers actually in 
their prison and this, it's 

1447
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:17,320
just, it's unfortunate and 
people hate arbitration for this

1448
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:20,080
reason. 
You are at a table, almost like 

1449
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:23,160
a deposition. 
You're at a table and you're 

1450
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,360
sitting there and you're 
listening to your employer 

1451
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:29,760
telling the orbiter, and you by 
extension, why you don't deserve

1452
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,160
the money you're asking for 
because of your deficiencies. 

1453
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:37,440
What deficiencies could they 
possibly illuminate with Tarek 

1454
01:10:37,440 --> 01:10:38,880
School? 
Can somebody tell me that what 

1455
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:39,960
they are? 
What? 

1456
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:41,600
You're too young. 
You haven't proven it yet. 

1457
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,360
You got an injury history. 
He's healthy as a horse. 

1458
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:47,880
Knock on wood, he's a stud 
back-to-back. 

1459
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:52,040
Cy Youngs, one of the most dot 
like when you watch Tarek school

1460
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,200
pitch. 
And I don't want to be a 

1461
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:55,920
prisoner of the moment here, 
but, you know, I know my 

1462
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,800
baseball history. 
I mean, is it really that 

1463
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:00,680
different? 
And I don't mean the 

1464
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,560
presentation or the stature or 
the body type or the wind up. 

1465
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,480
I'm talking about the results 
when you watch school ball 

1466
01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:09,160
pitch, right? 
Is it really that different than

1467
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:12,200
watching Randy Johnson pitch or 
Pedro pitch? 

1468
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:16,960
Is it or young Clayton Kershaw, 
who's also on Team USA was very 

1469
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,080
cool? 
The answer is no. 

1470
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:24,360
Or a young Clemens or, you know,
a young good in, you know, I 

1471
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,640
didn't see pitch a Seaver pitch,
but I mean any, any luminary, 

1472
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:32,240
Bob Gibson, Tom Seaver, Walter 
Johnson, Cy Young, like what 

1473
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:34,040
this dude is doing, what he's 
cooking up. 

1474
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:37,600
He's cooking up that. 
So to sit in a room like that 

1475
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:41,440
would infuriate me to the point 
where, and I understand it's the

1476
01:11:41,440 --> 01:11:45,160
process and I understand, you 
know, pre ARB and ARB and 

1477
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:47,960
eligible for this and here you 
go, all right, you know, 

1478
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:49,720
eligible for free agency this 
year. 

1479
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:52,280
Like I know how it works and 
that's the way it was 

1480
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,240
collectively bargained. 
And until it changes, you got to

1481
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:56,800
play by the rules. 
But there are certain 

1482
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,400
exceptions, man. 
Like the Tigers really should 

1483
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,600
have came in and said, all 
right, you want 32, start at 25 

1484
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,760
and start at 25. 
At least you're not pissing them

1485
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,000
off. 
Because if he, I don't, I don't 

1486
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:12,040
know if he loves Detroit. 
I, I don't know, I don't know 

1487
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:13,840
how we've used their team long 
term. 

1488
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:15,960
You know, they did a couple of 
little things during the 

1489
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,800
offseason, but it's not like 
they went out and just, you 

1490
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,280
know, manned up and said, all 
right, they're to themselves, 

1491
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,040
all right. 
There's a good chance that, you 

1492
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:26,000
know, if we don't get to a World
Series or at least get to the 

1493
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,320
American League Championship 
Series, he's going to start 

1494
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,520
processing his legacy, all 
right? 

1495
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:32,200
Because you know, he's going to 
get paid. 

1496
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:36,040
What's he going to get, 4550 a 
year, 400 million, What's he 

1497
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:37,960
going to get right? 
I know Cohen's coming. 

1498
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:40,600
I like to say that. 
I'd like to say that Hal's 

1499
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,400
coming. 
I don't really think he is. 

1500
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:45,360
I know the Dodgers are coming 
with that. 

1501
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,000
I believe the Phillies would 
come with that. 

1502
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:50,680
So he's at a point now where, 
all right, he won it. 

1503
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:52,040
So he's making 30 million this 
year. 

1504
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:53,640
He's made decent money up until 
this point. 

1505
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:55,600
But now he's got to start 
looking ahead and saying, all 

1506
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,200
right, where am I going to win? 
Because that is now a bribe, a 

1507
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,120
byproduct of all the 
conversations. 

1508
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:04,680
And it's sad I didn't hear the 
word legacy once in my lifetime 

1509
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:09,000
growing up and I I don't even 
really know the origin of it, 

1510
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:13,000
quite frankly. 
Like I wasn't walking around as 

1511
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,720
a kid, you know, in the street 
or in the schoolyard. 

1512
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:17,520
Hey, Parcells doesn't win 
another one. 

1513
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:19,320
No, it can't be. 
It can't be considered an all 

1514
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:22,040
time great, You know, just 
didn't think that way. 

1515
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,200
I didn't I didn't even think 
like, you know, my all time 

1516
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,680
favorite player is Don Mattingly
in any sport, all time by a 

1517
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:33,280
mile, Donnie Baseball forever. 
I wasn't watching him in 84 with

1518
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:37,520
the bad in title and 85 with the
MVP and 86 when he finished 

1519
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:40,200
second to Clemens and the MVP 
got hosed and all the things he 

1520
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:43,080
did in his five or six year 
window where he was basically a 

1521
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:47,240
basically a modern stand mutual.
I was watching him in awe. 

1522
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,840
I wasn't watching him saying, oh
God, it Donnie doesn't get to 

1523
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:53,280
the there was no wild card back 
then until when he finally made 

1524
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,840
it 95 and hit 417 against 
Seattle. 

1525
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:59,080
I wasn't sitting there once. 
It never once permeated my 

1526
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:02,640
thought or my conversations. 
God, if Donny doesn't get to the

1527
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:06,000
playoffs here, or if Donny 
doesn't win a World Series, he 

1528
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:09,600
can never be looked at before he
got hurt as a Mantle or a Gehrig

1529
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:13,280
or a Ruth or a DiMaggio or a 
Yogi or any of those other great

1530
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:15,000
luminaries. 
I just didn't look at it that 

1531
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:16,680
way. 
I didn't. 

1532
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:22,520
And it's, it's really, it's 
become very lazy is what it's 

1533
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,760
become. 
I don't know where it started. 

1534
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,560
I've got a few. 
I've got a few guesses. 

1535
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:30,320
I definitely think the LeBron MJ
thing is huge. 

1536
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:32,720
That's that. 
There's no question about that 

1537
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,920
now it's also the easiest 
conversation to have MJ by a 

1538
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,840
mile. 
Next topic I think maybe not 

1539
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,560
maybe I also think it's funny we
hit a little bit of golf 

1540
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,840
yesterday and I told you you're 
gonna get a lot of good golf 

1541
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:45,720
coverage. 
I don't I don't mean the the 

1542
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,280
fairly the fairly benign week to
week tournaments. 

1543
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:52,160
I'm talking about masters time, 
Open Championship, U.S. 

1544
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,080
Open, Ryder Cup. 
You're getting it on this 

1545
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,080
channel. 
I love golf, I play golf, I 

1546
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:59,240
stink, but I I know golf and I 
consume golf. 

1547
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,600
I love golf, right, So you 
definitely to get that. 

1548
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:05,960
But and I remember when Tiger 
was just obliterating the record

1549
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,000
book you started getting, you 
know, maybe it was maybe it was 

1550
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,880
even before LeBron, now that I 
think about it, and it's not 

1551
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,160
LeBron, even though I, you know,
I, I shaved LeBron here and 

1552
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,560
there for for different reasons.
It's not Lebron's fault that he 

1553
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,280
didn't start the GOAT 
conversation. 

1554
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:20,680
I don't I don't know who the 
hell started it. 

1555
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:24,120
But now that I traced back, I 
mean, think about when Tiger was

1556
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:28,520
just reducing, you know, Augusta
and all these various venues 

1557
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:32,520
across the world, just knocking 
them to its knees and just, you 

1558
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:36,560
know, shooting -15 and 
obliterating a field that had 

1559
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:41,400
David Duvall and, and obviously 
Mickelson and DJ Singh and Jimmy

1560
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,400
Furyk and all these great 
golfers back then. 

1561
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:50,120
You did maybe the origin was 
Jack and and Tiger Woods because

1562
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:56,000
we weren't talking about Michael
and LeBron back in in the late 

1563
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:59,560
90s because LeBron was still in 
high school in the late 90s. 

1564
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:02,720
So maybe that's what it is. 
But that's kind of become part 

1565
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:06,240
of it as well. 
And I don't know to what extent.

1566
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:10,040
I don't know to what degree 
these athletes really factor in 

1567
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,720
their ability to eventually win 
a championship. 

1568
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:17,640
I I don't, I don't know, but I 
could promise you this that it's

1569
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:19,680
more than it ever was. 
You know what I mean? 

1570
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:23,400
J Rod So you're a lot younger 
than me and your world, your 

1571
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:28,640
world really has never been 
without these these legacies and

1572
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:30,960
these conversations. 
That's all you kind of know, 

1573
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:31,840
right? 
I mean. 

1574
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,920
At least for me, yeah, Like the 
whole sports world thing, it's 

1575
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:38,720
less surrounded by the actual 
moments themselves and more 

1576
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,960
about like the hypotheticals of 
will this player do this? 

1577
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,720
Will they reach this peak rather
than really appreciating, OK, 

1578
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:49,080
what are they doing now and how 
does that reflect upon other 

1579
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:51,960
people rather than this 
comparison of what they haven't 

1580
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,280
done compared to what people in 
the past have done? 

1581
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:56,360
Also real. 
Quick, Yeah. 

1582
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,040
My brother just freaked out at 
me on the phone. 

1583
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:02,360
He was on varsity, all right? 
He was on varsity, yeah. 

1584
01:17:02,480 --> 01:17:03,960
You go as a. 
Senior. 

1585
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,120
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
All right, All right, yeah. 

1586
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,080
He he was on JV as a sophomore, 
junior, senior, he was on. 

1587
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:10,640
Varsity. 
Yeah. 

1588
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:11,600
I mean, how do you not know 
that? 

1589
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,000
Come on, Jay. 
You got to represent your. 

1590
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:14,960
Come on man. 
I know, yeah. 

1591
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:16,480
I mean. 
That listen there's and I'm not 

1592
01:17:16,480 --> 01:17:19,160
listen baseball's hard I mean, 
if anybody knows that it's me. 

1593
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,160
Baseball is hard to play hard to
be great at baseball. 

1594
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:25,920
It's very hard to be consistent 
of baseball, but at the risk of 

1595
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,800
sounding like that guy, I mean, 
if you're, I don't even know if 

1596
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:32,240
you're allowed on JV as a senior
and if you are a senior and 

1597
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,800
you're on JV, that's a rough 
look, man. 

1598
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:36,720
I mean, it's probably time to 
pack it up and do something. 

1599
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:40,600
Join the band, you know, go have
some fun, enjoy senior week, you

1600
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:43,960
know, go and visit colleges 
like, but go on spring break, 

1601
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:46,920
you know, did you go on spring 
break when you were in high? 

1602
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:52,600
Not in high school, no COVID. 
Yeah, no, my senior year I did 

1603
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:53,800
nothing. 
I didn't do that. 

1604
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:57,080
I mean so your. 
Senior year, you learned visual 

1605
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,160
virtually the entire year. 
Yeah. 

1606
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:02,040
And So what was? 
Crazy is for my school this wow 

1607
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:04,040
I don't know if the other grades
did this. 

1608
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:09,040
My seniors, all our classes were
asynchronous. 

1609
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:11,640
We didn't even do zoom learning.
We jump. 

1610
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:13,640
We did like all asynchronous 
classes. 

1611
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:18,560
So they would like send you for 
the week what like quizzes or 

1612
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:20,520
what assignments you had to do 
for the week. 

1613
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,480
You just had to finish it by the
end of the week and that was it.

1614
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:27,400
What you didn't? 
Speak to a teacher Once you 

1615
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,520
didn't speak to another student,
you literally filled out 

1616
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,560
assignments. 
Sentiment done. 

1617
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,840
That is, that is depressing. 
That's that's horrible, man. 

1618
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:39,880
Did you have a senior prom? 
No, I didn't. 

1619
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:43,640
Even have a graduation we we, we
drove through we drove through 

1620
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:47,360
in a car I stood on us I mean, 
and it was a little fun looking 

1621
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,040
back on it, you know, just 
because it was different. 

1622
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:54,080
But yeah, my mom, my dad, my 
brother, maybe my dog. 

1623
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,920
We we were in the car. 
We. 

1624
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,600
Drove. 
Up to the stage, I got out, you 

1625
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:03,200
know, I probably had like my 
sneakers on or whatever. 

1626
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:08,120
Had like the gown on, took the 
picture, got back in the car, 

1627
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:10,840
left that. 
Is I know you, you made the you 

1628
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:12,760
made the most of it, man. 
Nothing you could do. 

1629
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,520
But that is utterly depressing. 
So we do have something in 

1630
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:17,360
common here, J Rod, right? 
Yeah. 

1631
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:20,760
So you you didn't go to your 
prom because you didn't have one

1632
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:23,840
because COVID wiped it out. 
I didn't go to my prom because I

1633
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,640
was banned for my prom. 
What'd you do? 

1634
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:27,960
Yeah, it's a story for another 
day. 

1635
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:29,880
You're gonna have to say that. 
That's say that one. 

1636
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:31,960
I'm very curious that's. 
True. 

1637
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:34,120
Now I went to some other 
problems because the the 

1638
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:37,520
Catholic school girls like I got
asked to go to a few of their 

1639
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:40,280
problems. 
Sure I was not allowed to go to 

1640
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:41,360
my prom. 
Oh. 

1641
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:43,120
Man, that's whatever, man. 
I. 

1642
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:44,600
Went to the after parties. 
Who cares? 

1643
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:46,160
Yeah. 
Wait, I'm seeing some. 

1644
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:48,920
I'm seeing that. 
Yeah. 

1645
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:52,400
Breaking news, Breece Hall got a
franchise tag. 

1646
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:53,920
Franchise. 
OK, that's what I thought. 

1647
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:56,160
Yeah, well, you couldn't wait to
do that. 

1648
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:57,240
Let me hear that again. 
Let's go. 

1649
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:58,280
It's not. 
A great sound. 

1650
01:19:58,280 --> 01:19:59,640
That's the thing, you can't 
really. 

1651
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:06,200
Hear it dude, that's a no. 
Wait, give me both. 

1652
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:07,720
Boom boom, back-to-back. 
Ready. 

1653
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:12,080
Here's the first It's like we 
eat stone cold. 

1654
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,720
That's it 100% right. 
There you go good. 

1655
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:19,840
All right, so Breeze gets the 
the franchise, not the 

1656
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:23,240
transition. 
And that's what I surmised. 

1657
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:26,640
I just did that 10 minutes ago. 
And now it'll have until July to

1658
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:29,640
figure this out. 
So it's $14.1 million, but 

1659
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:32,560
they're going to have to carry 
that on the books for the cap 

1660
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,360
until they resolve it. 
So all right, extend the window,

1661
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:37,440
no doubt. 
Never doubt Breeze would be 

1662
01:20:37,440 --> 01:20:39,960
back. 
He is good for Breeze and good 

1663
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:41,640
for The Jets. 
All right, so let let me 

1664
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:45,960
investigate something else here.
So now how did you go and visit 

1665
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:49,240
colleges so. 
So, yeah, that was what was 

1666
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:53,320
strange is it was such a weird 
period where like, you know, the

1667
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:56,400
true 'cause I still went to 
Syracuse on time. 

1668
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,720
We still had a couple in person 
classes when I was there later 

1669
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:03,160
2020. 
And then I visited colleges that

1670
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:07,440
time right before COVID in that 
like September to November 

1671
01:21:07,440 --> 01:21:11,080
period of 2019. 
So that was kind of when I, you 

1672
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:15,440
know, visit colleges, then 
whatever, February, March, you 

1673
01:21:15,440 --> 01:21:19,120
know that, yeah, June, July came
along. 

1674
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:21,280
But then of August, we were kind
of, you know, it was a little 

1675
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:22,920
better. 
Went back to school. 

1676
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:26,000
Let me ask you this. 
So I I know how you got the work

1677
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,600
and yet you could do it all in 
one day and then just chill. 

1678
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:30,640
Or you could just, you know, 
spread it out, which is probably

1679
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:32,880
what you did. 
But what did you do every day? 

1680
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:34,240
So you're obviously your parents
home. 

1681
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:36,200
Did you ever see a friend? 
Oh, yeah, Yeah. 

1682
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:38,360
So. 
I'm like a small town kid, so 

1683
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:41,200
it's like it really, you know, 
they were like. 

1684
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:42,680
Screw COVID with the whatever we
want. 

1685
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,200
Exactly. 
Like me and my, I mean, you 

1686
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:47,360
know, me and my boys kind of 
just chilled. 

1687
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,600
Like obviously I think, you 
know, for that first week, we, I

1688
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:52,800
think my friend might have been 
the first dude in America who 

1689
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:54,480
had COVID. 
It was like that first week. 

1690
01:21:54,480 --> 01:21:55,680
Yeah. 
It was like that first week of 

1691
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:57,800
March and this dude was out. 
Did you ever get it? 

1692
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:02,080
Yeah, yeah, couple, couple 
times, but never symptomatic. 

1693
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:03,800
Yeah. 
Yeah, me too, basically, you 

1694
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:05,400
know, go ahead. 
Did you have something else, 

1695
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:06,320
guys? 
Because I'm one of those guys. 

1696
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:10,200
So I mean, what we would do all 
day, I mean, play video games, 

1697
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:13,040
hang out, you know, have like a 
bonfire, whatever else. 

1698
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:14,680
Oh, OK. 
See, we were still. 

1699
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:17,640
I feel like, you know, part not 
partying per SE. 

1700
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:19,760
No, no, I six or seven 
understood. 

1701
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:21,600
But yeah, I mean, you, you still
had a good time. 

1702
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:23,520
Definitely a little. 
Too young to party, even though 

1703
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:27,320
back in my day we, you know, 
party very, very, very early. 

1704
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:29,680
I I joke around. 
We talk about golf. 

1705
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:31,600
The first time I was on a golf 
course was when we jumped the 

1706
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:32,840
fence and had a beer on the 
gring. 

1707
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:34,480
Oh, my gosh. 
Your story. 

1708
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,200
Yeah, man, I'm not going to tell
you how old I was. 

1709
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,200
We were young. 
I couldn't have. 

1710
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:43,920
I remember going through that 
and and obviously, you know, 

1711
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:47,480
going through my kids were 
young, but they weren't in full 

1712
01:22:47,480 --> 01:22:50,280
blown school yet. 
They were young, so a little bit

1713
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:53,120
easier. 
And in a lot of ways, I don't 

1714
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:54,120
want this to sound the wrong 
way. 

1715
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:58,560
Like like we, I almost embraced 
it in a way because, you know, I

1716
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:00,280
was home. 
So I'm doing the show from home.

1717
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:01,800
Me and Tiki never stopped doing 
our show. 

1718
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:05,360
We had it was ATV component. 
So we had the cameras in here. 

1719
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:07,920
We were on CBS Sports Network 
and there was just nothing to 

1720
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:09,720
talk about, right? 
And it was brutal. 

1721
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,840
But we figured it out because me
and Tik were very tight and we 

1722
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:15,560
talked, talked about the world a
lot and tried to find some 

1723
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:18,960
interesting like Evergreen stuff
like a lot of LeBron and you 

1724
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,280
know, Kobe and Jack and Tiger 
and stuff like that. 

1725
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:23,760
But well, I remember what we 
did. 

1726
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,400
We moved into our home in 
December of 2018. 

1727
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,640
So this is obviously 2020. 
And let's see. 

1728
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:35,080
So that would have been my 
little guy was he was, he had 

1729
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:38,000
just turned 5 and my daughter 
was still 3. 

1730
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:42,720
So I remember like that first 
week, this is true story in our 

1731
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:46,440
on our first floor in toward the
back, we've got a, a pretty good

1732
01:23:46,440 --> 01:23:49,120
sized playroom, right? 
And like my wife did a great 

1733
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:50,600
job. 
So like even before COVID, she 

1734
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:53,800
put up like, you know, the 
alphabet, like the letters and 

1735
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:57,000
like some basic mathematics, 
radical stuff and like the days 

1736
01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:00,600
of the week, the months of the 
year. 

1737
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:02,960
And then of course, you know, 
then the daddy took over and 

1738
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:05,600
went a little next level because
my Teek and I were on in the 

1739
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,080
afternoon. 
We were doing the afternoon show

1740
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:10,600
across the country, right? 
So my mornings were free and I 

1741
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,680
would go all right, time for 
class, kiddos, let's go. 

1742
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:14,640
And we had their little desks in
there. 

1743
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,360
And I would now, I don't really 
know if they were understanding 

1744
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:21,040
it very much, but I'm doing like
antonyms and homonyms and 

1745
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,160
synonyms and like I'm going deep
dive, man. 

1746
01:24:23,480 --> 01:24:27,880
And I'm doing, I remember I 
found like 5 and 6 syllable 

1747
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:30,240
words. 
Actually, this another quick 

1748
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:33,280
aside. 
This is how I taught my, my kids

1749
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:36,160
about words and how to spell, 
how to sound it out. 

1750
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:40,200
I would give me circumstantial. 
All right, So something like 

1751
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:43,120
that, like circumstantial 4. 
I would say, all right, how many

1752
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,480
syllables in circumstantial 
before I'd ask him to spell, to 

1753
01:24:45,480 --> 01:24:49,280
spell it, I'd say how many 
syllables and the little voices 

1754
01:24:49,440 --> 01:24:53,440
and I, we would clap it out 
circumstantial, you know, and, 

1755
01:24:53,440 --> 01:24:55,960
and that's kind of so I'm doing 
all this teaching and then I 

1756
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:59,040
like get the map because I love 
geography and I'm, I'm hitting 

1757
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,360
the States and I'm trying to 
get, you know, North America, 

1758
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:04,280
South America, Asia, Africa, 
Antarctica. 

1759
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:06,680
There we go Australia. 
Like I'm doing the, I'm doing 

1760
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:08,600
everything and I'm like, this is
phenom. 

1761
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:10,240
I'm even doing painting with 
them. 

1762
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:14,320
Right. 
Dude, after one week, I had 

1763
01:25:14,480 --> 01:25:19,880
literally nothing else to teach.
No, at that point, when Covid's 

1764
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:22,000
first hitting, you don't know 
how long you're going to be 

1765
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,280
isolated. 
You get, you know, and they were

1766
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:26,520
still young and we didn't really
know anybody in town yet, So, 

1767
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:28,360
and it was still chilly out. 
It was like March. 

1768
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:31,800
So it was a good time to really,
as a family, just really 

1769
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,560
everyday movies and games. 
And they were putting the 

1770
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:35,840
doctor. 
I would be the patient. 

1771
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,320
They'd get dressed up in the 
doctor's gear after a week. 

1772
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:40,520
I'm like, I'm out of freak. 
I I got nothing else. 

1773
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:42,960
I've just told you everything 
that I know in the world. 

1774
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:46,320
I got nothing else. 
We got to figure this shit out 

1775
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:47,280
here, man. 
That's. 

1776
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:49,960
Too funny, man. 
You know what's crazy? 

1777
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:55,000
I know you don't know this. 
So the the Big East tournament, 

1778
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:56,240
you can look this up. 
Not now. 

1779
01:25:56,920 --> 01:26:02,400
The video is as ominous and as 
jarring and and I've my real 

1780
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:06,120
time feel when this was going on
was unlike anything that I ever 

1781
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:12,360
felt right. 
So I think about say if just 

1782
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:13,520
give me a full screen for a 
second. 

1783
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:18,120
So say if WFAN was here and the 
Garden was here, right? 

1784
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:21,720
So this is the fan, I would park
my car WFAN and then I would 

1785
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:24,720
jump on the one or the 9 train 
and I would just take it to the 

1786
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:26,240
Garden when I had St. 
John's games. 

1787
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:28,240
And then obviously after the 
game, I would get back on the 

1788
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:32,280
train, take it 3-4 stops, walk 
out, get my car, drive home to 

1789
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:35,280
New Jersey, right? 
So I take the train now. 

1790
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:37,520
I remember now things are 
starting. 

1791
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:40,600
That was after Rudy Gobert 
touched the microphones. 

1792
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:43,440
I know you know that, right? 
And everybody's like, he was 

1793
01:26:43,440 --> 01:26:45,640
mocking it and everybody's like,
what is this COVID nonsense? 

1794
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:49,880
And really, you know, anyway, 
for some stupid reason, Saint 

1795
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:51,240
John, that's not Saint John's 
fault. 

1796
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:54,200
The Big East, what you want to 
talk about a void of leadership.

1797
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:55,560
I could not believe that they 
did this. 

1798
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:57,800
We have a game and they're 
playing. 

1799
01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:59,760
I think they were playing 
Creighton, right? 

1800
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:04,280
Little tidbit, Saint John's was 
the Saint John's was the last 

1801
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:10,680
team to play, the last team to 
play in the entire country. 

1802
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:14,160
So me and Mink get there early 
and the way they and I remember 

1803
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:17,120
leaving and my wife's like, 
they're really, they're really 

1804
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:20,280
going to play. 
And I'm like, yeah, they're 

1805
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:22,640
going to play. 
And I'm just, you know, me, I'm,

1806
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:24,080
I'm a minimalist in terms of 
worry. 

1807
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:24,920
I'm like, we're fine, we're 
good. 

1808
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:26,800
But yeah, of course we're going 
to play, right. 

1809
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:29,320
They they won the day before and
I'm thinking maybe we'll make a 

1810
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:30,800
run, maybe we'll make the 
tournament. 

1811
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:35,920
So me and they get there early 
and we get advised that I think 

1812
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:42,280
each school was given 150 
tickets, I think for parents and

1813
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:46,400
the band, something like that. 
So me and Minka courtside at the

1814
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:51,080
Big East tournament and I 
remember before the game, you 

1815
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:53,720
know, at at the biggest, it's a 
mass of operations you can 

1816
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:59,080
imagine TV's media, media guides
every everything right, press 

1817
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:02,280
conference set up and I and I'm 
walking to get some notes for 

1818
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:03,600
the St. 
John's I think again, I think it

1819
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:04,800
was Creighton, St. 
John's, Creighton. 

1820
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:09,080
And I'm watching, I guess ESPN 
was on and I see now flashing on

1821
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:13,280
the screen SAA, the remainder of
the ACC tournament cancelled, 

1822
01:28:13,480 --> 01:28:17,400
remainder of the SEC cancelled, 
Big 10 cancelled, Big 12 

1823
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:21,000
cancelled. 
I'm like, I'm like, why are we 

1824
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:22,960
like, all right now? 
It's like now it's a little 

1825
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:25,480
weird. 
And I go out and I sit down. 

1826
01:28:25,480 --> 01:28:27,640
It's probably about 2530 minutes
before the game. 

1827
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,760
And I look up in the stands and 
this is guaranteed a picture 

1828
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:32,880
that you could find on Google. 
The St. 

1829
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:37,520
John's mascot is basically up in
the upper deck, sitting by 

1830
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:40,200
himself in full regalia. 
Full. 

1831
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:43,200
Yep, it was the first thing you 
look up St. 

1832
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:46,120
John's mascot, and then Covid's 
the first word that comes up. 

1833
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:48,000
And I. 
Remember looking up at that 

1834
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:50,400
right? 
I'm like, wow, wow. 

1835
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,360
This is, I'm going to use the 
word ominous again. 

1836
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:54,800
This is really ominous. 
Can I throw that picture up? 

1837
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:56,160
Oh, yeah. 
I'd love to see. 

1838
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:59,160
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 
Yeah. 

1839
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:01,600
Roll it up there, bro. 
You get it up there. 

1840
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:03,720
It's all good. 
And I remember looking around 

1841
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:06,280
and it's just this 20,000 seat 
venue, You know, I love the 

1842
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:09,040
garden. 
It's massive, cavernous now that

1843
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:10,960
I think I'm not even sure if the
band was there may have just 

1844
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:12,960
been parents and immediate 
family of the players who were 

1845
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:16,040
playing that game. 
And we start the pregame show 

1846
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:20,800
and Mink goes, all right. 
And we it's a sponsored element 

1847
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,400
and it's the keys to the game. 
All right, coming up, you know, 

1848
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:26,840
coming up now BT is me, BT with 
his and he always does this with

1849
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:29,000
his hand. 
BT with his keys to the game, 

1850
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:30,640
right? 
I'm like God, Mink. 

1851
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:34,240
And I was in such a bad mood and
I said something like, listen, 

1852
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:37,440
I, I just crushed the 
conference. 

1853
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:39,320
I'm like, you want the keys to 
the game? 

1854
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:40,480
Sure. 
I don't even know why we're 

1855
01:29:40,480 --> 01:29:42,320
here. 
And I just eviscerated. 

1856
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:46,440
Like it was not even as a key 
number one, don't get hurt key 

1857
01:29:46,440 --> 01:29:49,760
#2 score more points. 
It was literally, I just want to

1858
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:53,480
get out of here, right? 
They play the first half and 

1859
01:29:53,480 --> 01:29:56,960
Saint John every other game in 
the country. 

1860
01:29:57,320 --> 01:30:03,360
Mountain West, Whack, Mack, NEC,
Sunbelt, everything canceled. 

1861
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:06,400
For some idiotic reason. 
The Big East is still playing 

1862
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:08,920
and I love the Big East, but it 
was so dumb, right? 

1863
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:11,320
And we go to halftime. 
St. 

1864
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:12,880
John's is winning. 
So I joke around, St. 

1865
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:15,200
John's won the national 
championship that year because 

1866
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:17,520
they were the last team with the
lead, right? 

1867
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:21,000
So we go to, I go to get a cup 
of coffee or just to see what 

1868
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,840
the hell is going on. 
And I go back and it's like the 

1869
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:26,280
commissioner and other people 
that and they're all converged. 

1870
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:28,000
They're like, we're going to 
can't, the games can't. 

1871
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:30,360
So they actually played the 
first half of the game. 

1872
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:31,640
By the way, did you find the 
picture? 

1873
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:32,600
Can you get it up there yet or 
no? 

1874
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:36,080
Yeah, look now. 
It's not really, it's OK, not 

1875
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:40,160
very high quality, but it's OK. 
Though just a depressing shot 

1876
01:30:40,440 --> 01:30:43,720
and I remember walk and I still 
wasn't nervous or afraid. 

1877
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:46,000
I'm like, I was actually pissed.
I'm like St. 

1878
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:48,440
John's was playing well, but I 
knew you had to cancel the rest 

1879
01:30:48,440 --> 01:30:50,760
of it. 
So anyway, Long story short, now

1880
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:55,960
I got to get on the train to go 
to get my car to get home and I 

1881
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:59,960
was on I'm, I'm walking down the
stairs to go on the 1:00 train 

1882
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:02,480
at the and there was one person 
that I passed. 

1883
01:31:02,480 --> 01:31:05,040
Nobody was on the trains. 
It was a ghost town dude, which 

1884
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:09,040
was even more scary. 
The person that I passed, older 

1885
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:12,560
woman, whatever, she went like 
this, like she actually, it just

1886
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:14,520
put me on the full screen 
because I'm walking up there. 

1887
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:16,200
I smile at her. 
I'm trying to be nice and 

1888
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:18,480
cordial to everybody, especially
the elderly and women. 

1889
01:31:18,480 --> 01:31:21,600
Whatever she walked as I walked 
by. 

1890
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:24,080
She she goes like she like, she 
just moves away from me. 

1891
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:30,120
I'm like, wow, man, this is so I
get home and now it's full blown

1892
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:32,600
like things are going on, but 
I'm still not worried. 

1893
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:35,800
That was maybe a Thursday. 
If I, if I recollect, I think it

1894
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:39,040
was a Thursday. 
So the next day I, I wake up, 

1895
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:41,360
you know, I'm like, alright. 
And I'm going in the, I'm 

1896
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:43,720
leaving the house and my wife 
goes where you going? 

1897
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:46,800
I don't go to work out. 
You know, I, I've since built 

1898
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:49,760
out my, my basement where I work
out my basement, but I belong to

1899
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:52,040
a gym like 2 miles from home. 
I'm going to work out. 

1900
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:55,440
We I'm going, which I, you know,
I did at that point, probably 3 

1901
01:31:55,440 --> 01:31:57,600
* a week, maybe 4. 
She's like, you're not going to 

1902
01:31:57,600 --> 01:31:58,680
work out. 
I'm like, yeah, yeah. 

1903
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:00,320
She's like, you're not going to 
work out. 

1904
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:05,520
You can't leave the house. 
And I'm like, probably, right. 

1905
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:07,480
I know it's not. 
I should say no, it's nothing. 

1906
01:32:07,480 --> 01:32:09,960
I'm not a doctor, but I'm like, 
I don't think it's anything. 

1907
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:12,160
But I got to respect their 
wishes on this because nobody 

1908
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:14,360
really knows what's going, 
what's going to happen here. 

1909
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:17,280
And I didn't work out. 
And I remember the first time, 

1910
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:19,200
I'm sure some of you did this, 
too. 

1911
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:23,520
We ordered pizza and they would 
leave it on the steps. 

1912
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:27,880
I don't know if you dealt OK And
my wife would take the pizza and

1913
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:31,800
put it in the oven to even 
though it was piping hot to kill

1914
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:35,920
any existing germs that you 
might be on the I'm sure we did.

1915
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:38,320
Yeah, I'm sure we had something 
similar to that. 

1916
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:42,040
Like where we someone go grocery
shopping, we wipe down the blue 

1917
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:47,080
some crazy nonsense, man. 
I mean, I don't even know what 

1918
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:47,920
to say. 
I had. 

1919
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:49,760
Nothing to say 1A. 
Different time. 

1920
01:32:58,200 --> 01:32:59,800
What happened there? 
Is that all right? 

1921
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,000
No, thank you, Willie. 
I've actually done a couple of 

1922
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:05,720
games on TVI haven't done them 
in a while. 

1923
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:08,680
I was doing some stuff for CBS 
Sports Network, like I did some 

1924
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:10,040
Seton Hall games, St. 
John's. 

1925
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:15,480
I did the where was that? 
The Conference USA down, down at

1926
01:33:15,480 --> 01:33:17,360
Southern Miss, which was a great
environment. 

1927
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:21,040
Did some games down in 
Annapolis, which was great to go

1928
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:23,040
on Navy's campus. 
Some other games I'm forgetting 

1929
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:24,200
too. 
Couple of Ivy games. 

1930
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:26,640
Whatever. 
I did some college baseball TV 

1931
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:28,800
for a little bit, but no, I 
follow St. 

1932
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:32,800
John's baseball like I follow 
Marist and and you know, matter 

1933
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:35,480
of fact, one time the head of 
this is pretty cool. 

1934
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:37,040
This is probably about four 
years ago. 

1935
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:41,440
So he was probably 7. 
And during the summer, I think 

1936
01:33:41,440 --> 01:33:44,200
it was like Mike Anderson's 
second year or maybe even his 

1937
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:46,240
first year. 
And they had like a, a private 

1938
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:48,880
practice for season ticket 
holders and the, and the big 

1939
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:50,880
money boosters. 
And it was during the summer. 

1940
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:54,200
So I, I took my son and you 
know, he met all the players and

1941
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:56,160
like Posh and Shamari Pons and 
those guys. 

1942
01:33:56,400 --> 01:34:01,080
If you remember that team and 
the baseball field was open and 

1943
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:02,560
which I played on when I was in 
marriage. 

1944
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:06,040
We, we played them once. 
We lost 2 to one and the gate 

1945
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:08,040
was open. 
I let him run around the bases. 

1946
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:09,920
They were sitting in the dugout,
pretended he was walking up the 

1947
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:11,240
home plate. 
They got a good team. 

1948
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:15,120
I mean, every year they have 
guys drafted very, very strong, 

1949
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:18,200
Strong Northeast baseball team. 
All right, Jay, Ron, anything 

1950
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:19,640
else we got to get to before we 
bounce? 

1951
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:23,120
Let every up slap it up there. 
Special guest tomorrow. 

1952
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:25,480
This is going to be a blast. 
Can't wait to get my buddy on 

1953
01:34:25,480 --> 01:34:27,280
the show. 
My good buddy. 

1954
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:28,520
There he is. 
Yep. 

1955
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:30,160
Now a lot of times you hear this
a lot. 

1956
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:32,760
Oh my, you're going to hear 
somebody like doing a show and 

1957
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:34,840
introducing my good friend, my 
good buddy. 

1958
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:37,520
And then they they barely know 
the guy like they they might, 

1959
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:38,920
they might have his phone 
number. 

1960
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:40,520
They might text them once in a 
while. 

1961
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:43,080
When I say that I'm I'm 
legitimately friends with 

1962
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:45,000
Michael Ki mean it. 
I've known him for 20 something 

1963
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:46,960
years. 
We worked at 10:50 together 

1964
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:49,480
forever. 
I was at his wedding. 

1965
01:34:49,480 --> 01:34:51,560
He couldn't come to mind because
the Yankees were still were in 

1966
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:54,960
the playoffs there. 
And it's just a great guy, you 

1967
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:57,440
know, him and all's quirks, him 
and all's his, his, his 

1968
01:34:57,440 --> 01:35:00,320
brilliance with the Yankees. 
We're gonna have a fun, fun 

1969
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:02,560
conversation. 
And it's funny, one thing I 

1970
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:04,240
remember about Mike, I don't 
know why this stands out. 

1971
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:06,120
Remember, I was telling you the 
story the other day about when I

1972
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:08,040
ruptured my Achilles. 
Yeah. 

1973
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:10,400
Yeah, a Rod. 
Playing hoops in the Urban Men 

1974
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:14,720
professional years ago. 
My dad with with the part of the

1975
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:16,840
story that I didn't tell you, 
which is actually pretty funny. 

1976
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:23,680
I lived in a four story walk up,
OK on the Upper West Side, great

1977
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:24,920
apartments. 
And it was one bedroom. 

1978
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:26,360
It wasn't even the studio. 
It was one bedroom. 

1979
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:28,160
It was one bedroom. 
Yeah, it was nice, dude. 

1980
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:30,680
It was a nice building right by 
Central Park. 

1981
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:31,440
It was awesome. 
Right. 

1982
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:33,080
And what? 
Street. 

1983
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:35,880
It was in the 80s, OK. 
That was beautiful. 

1984
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:39,520
Some friends who like lived in 
like that like 91st, 92nd and 

1985
01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:42,680
Central Park area right I. 
Was right by Central Park West. 

1986
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:46,080
I'd ride my bike to 10:50, I 
would go along the West side 

1987
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:49,680
Highway and then come around. 
And yeah, so anyway, so the 

1988
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:52,240
problem was, and my dad said I 
didn't have a girlfriend. 

1989
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:55,000
I was wasn't married. 
And you know, my dad, you know, 

1990
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:58,120
being the awesome dad that he 
is, would come and pick me up 

1991
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:00,440
and like, well, first I went 
home and I stayed at my parents.

1992
01:36:00,440 --> 01:36:02,880
I missed work for like a week. 
I stayed at where I grew up. 

1993
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:05,240
So they, because I couldn't, 
couldn't, I mean, full had full 

1994
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:07,600
surgery. 
It's tough pain meds and you 

1995
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:09,720
know, getting up to go to the 
bathroom to eat a lot of stuff 

1996
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:12,520
going on. 
And my dad was like a rock star,

1997
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:14,080
right? 
The same with my mom. 

1998
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:17,760
So when I moved, when it when I 
was deemed OK, maybe we could 

1999
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:21,040
get back, he drove me and he 
would still come and pick me up 

2000
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:23,840
and sometimes take me to rehab 
until I was at least functional.

2001
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:26,280
Not then my station actually 
wound up sending and they 

2002
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:28,720
finally stepped up. 
They sent somebody to pick me up

2003
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:30,400
and then I would go to rehab. 
And then I can get around the 

2004
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:33,520
crutches. 
But Long story short, I'll never

2005
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:36,000
forget. 
And when I went back to my 

2006
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:39,720
apartment, I stayed in there for
about a week. 

2007
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:42,920
Like I didn't, you know, I had 
people come and visit me, a lot 

2008
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:44,800
of friends and stuff, including 
my dad. 

2009
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:47,560
Always going to get food like, 
you know, go great Jewish delis 

2010
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:50,920
on the upper on the Upper West 
Side, the soup and Oh my God, 

2011
01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:53,000
the knishes. 
I mean, it was phenomenal. 

2012
01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:55,280
Actually, I didn't mind that I 
was getting I was generated on 

2013
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:56,480
hand and foot. 
All right. 

2014
01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:59,960
So the way I got up the stairs, 
I'll never forget this. 

2015
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:03,360
I once my dad left because he 
carried them up like when he 

2016
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:08,880
left, I would take my crushes 
and I would throw them up a full

2017
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:10,600
flight of stairs. 
Now, if you know anything about 

2018
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:13,200
a pre war building, it's not a 
modern building. 

2019
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:16,440
I mean it's literally over 100 
years old and the staircases are

2020
01:37:16,440 --> 01:37:22,240
so deep and so high and also a 
little bit smaller in terms of 

2021
01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:25,640
width because the human body was
a little bit smaller back then 

2022
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:28,440
when they built these right. 
So I would Chuck these things 

2023
01:37:28,480 --> 01:37:33,040
and I remember at the at the top
of each staircase, there was a 

2024
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:34,600
wall, so there wasn't a lot of 
room. 

2025
01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:36,720
So it's like throwing the 
freaking javelin. 

2026
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:39,800
I had to be freaking perfect 
because every time I even if I 

2027
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:43,640
got it on a perfect throw, most 
times it would ricochet off the 

2028
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:47,720
back wall and come flying down. 
Oh my God, dude, it was that's 

2029
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:50,400
dangerous. 
Wow, What I wasn't worried about

2030
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:50,920
getting. 
Hurt I was. 

2031
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:53,680
Yeah, Jay. 
It was it, it was brutal. 

2032
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:57,120
So once I actually then I had to
do it the second flight, then 

2033
01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:58,960
the third flight, then the 4th 
flight. 

2034
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:01,760
And once I was, you know, lucky,
lucky enough because it wasn't 

2035
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:04,760
skill, it was kind of luck to 
get him to stay up there. 

2036
01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:08,160
Not just one, but two crutches. 
I couldn't walk up the stairs. 

2037
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:12,320
I would literally sit my ass on 
each stair hold with air, get me

2038
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:15,920
on the full screen, sit my ass 
on the stairs right with the 

2039
01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:21,360
take my hands and push my push 
myself up each stairs with my 

2040
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:25,720
back to the stairs going upwards
backwards bro. 

2041
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:29,360
And then I remember I developed 
and I don't have many phobias. 

2042
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:32,840
Although as I'm getting older I 
noticed I'm a little less 

2043
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:35,880
reluctant to enjoy heights that 
I noticed that that's crept in a

2044
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:37,600
little bit. 
Thank God no other real phobias 

2045
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:39,720
or fears. 
I that might be the first time 

2046
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:41,120
it crept in. 
I remember. 

2047
01:38:41,440 --> 01:38:44,320
So now I'm still on crutches but
I'm like the pains not searing. 

2048
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:47,280
I'm getting a little healthier 
when I'm finally going back to 

2049
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:49,200
work and my dad's not there. 
It's just me. 

2050
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:52,080
I had to do the opposite. 
I had to take my crutches and 

2051
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:53,760
fling them down the stairs, 
which was simple. 

2052
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:55,840
But then I had to go down the 
stairs. 

2053
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:59,320
And I remember, and I was 
hopping down on one foot. 

2054
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:00,840
I was doing it differently, 
right? 

2055
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:05,560
And I remember, like, looking at
this very sizable, very 

2056
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:07,920
intimidating drop. 
And I'm like, I remember by 

2057
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:11,120
getting nervous, I'm like, I got
to do four of these. 

2058
01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:13,000
And, you know, eventually you 
kind of get a little bit used to

2059
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:14,160
it. 
You suck it up and you move on. 

2060
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:17,560
But man, yeah, if you're going 
to rupture your Achilles, live 

2061
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:22,360
in a home or have an elevator. 
All right, dude, just about 

2062
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:24,360
tapped out for today. 
Is there any text that we need 

2063
01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:27,560
to hit before we found what for 
sure chef they're got right? 

2064
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:33,320
Here the game day lineup got a 
oh dropped Whit, Junior, Harper,

2065
01:39:33,440 --> 01:39:39,440
Judge, Schwarber, Bregman, 
Raleigh, Anthony Buxton, Buxton.

2066
01:39:39,440 --> 01:39:41,640
Starting, Yep. 
OK, keep that up there. 

2067
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:45,200
Keep that up. 
OK, so skeins, skeins going to 

2068
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:46,360
pitch. 
I got you. 

2069
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:49,720
Skeins will pitch Friday against
Brazil and then I would imagine 

2070
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,160
Scuba will go after that because
he's only making the one start 

2071
01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:54,760
that we talked about. 
So I had Wit first, all right, 

2072
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:55,920
That was the easy one. 
Got that. 

2073
01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:59,480
I had Schwarber in the 2 hole. 
They put Bryce Harper, no issue 

2074
01:39:59,480 --> 01:40:00,560
with that. 
I actually kind of like that 

2075
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:02,280
better. 
Judge three got it. 

2076
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:04,560
Schwarber behind Judge, All 
right, so they flipped that 

2077
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:09,360
there. 
I had Calrolie 50. 

2078
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:13,120
They got Bregman behind. 
Schwarber in the five hole and 

2079
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:15,160
then, all right, I had Bregman 
7. 

2080
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:18,160
I had Cal Roll the five behind 
Bryce Harper in the four hole. 

2081
01:40:18,440 --> 01:40:22,080
I guess I missed that. 
Yeah, I had Anthony in the six 

2082
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:24,880
hole playing left field. 
They got that and I had to Rang 

2083
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:27,840
batting 9th, playing second. 
I got that and I had Pete Crow, 

2084
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:29,600
Armstrong and center. 
I got no problem with Buxton 

2085
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:30,200
playing. 
There you go. 

2086
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:32,120
He's going to hit eighth. 
OK, I'm into it. 

2087
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:34,040
Looking forward to it. 
Could have a little bit of fun 

2088
01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:36,360
with this. 
Hey, get this out there. 

2089
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:38,840
Obviously, like and subscribe. 
I got to get the likes up, guys.

2090
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:41,160
I'm doing my job. 
Those of you in here, you doing 

2091
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:42,360
your job? 
We need to do it better. 

2092
01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:46,040
All right, We are inching toward
18,000 Subs. 

2093
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:49,200
We just hit 17 the other day. 
Got to get the likes up, got to 

2094
01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:51,280
get the comments going, got to 
get the traction going. 

2095
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:52,720
Got to get the shares on the 
shorts. 

2096
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:55,320
Share the shorts. 
Don't just check them out, share

2097
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:57,000
them. 
Trust me, it helps me, of 

2098
01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:59,200
course, but it also helps build 
out the show. 

2099
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:01,560
I'm not going to tell you why, 
obviously, I think you know why,

2100
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:04,640
but just the more you do and the
more it goes out there and 

2101
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:07,680
grows, the more I can do. 
So I'm out for today. 

2102
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:10,560
Have a great day. 
Tomorrow is going to be awesome.

2103
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:13,480
So I'll be on at 10 as always. 
Live at 10/10/15. 

2104
01:41:13,480 --> 01:41:17,200
The great Michael K my my buddy 
Michael at 10:15 for at least 

2105
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:19,200
45. 
I might have to go to St. 

2106
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:20,440
John's tomorrow. 
I thought it was going to be 

2107
01:41:20,440 --> 01:41:22,800
Thursday to shoot the show with 
Rick, but I got a text before. 

2108
01:41:23,440 --> 01:41:25,080
It's probably going to be 
Wednesday, but it's not going to

2109
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:27,200
be as early as it was last 
Wednesday, so I'll be able to do

2110
01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:30,720
more of a full show. 
Anyway, little story time today.

2111
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:33,680
Bounced around a little COVID, a
little crutches going upstairs, 

2112
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:37,560
a lot of football to start. 
If you just jumped in, I laid it

2113
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:40,280
out for Kyler Murray and all the
Kirk Cousins 2. 

2114
01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:43,040
All the quarterbacks obviously 
talked about Breece. 

2115
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:46,400
We got confirmation today he got
slapped with the franchise. 

2116
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:48,000
Not a surprise. 
We knew that was coming. 

2117
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:50,000
Now they'll work out the full 
time deal, but they're going to 

2118
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:52,560
have to carry that fairly. 
He's not going to sign $14 

2119
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:55,160
million a year, be lower than 
that, probably 12 or 13. 

2120
01:41:55,440 --> 01:41:58,040
So it's a fairly exorbitant 
number at 14.1. 

2121
01:41:58,280 --> 01:42:00,240
But he's exclusive property of 
The Jets. 

2122
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:02,440
With the transition, somebody 
can swoop it and try to sign 

2123
01:42:02,440 --> 01:42:04,040
them. 
That can't happen now. 

2124
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:06,440
We knew he was staying put. 
If you didn't know that, I don't

2125
01:42:06,440 --> 01:42:07,960
know what to tell you. 
I've been telling you that for a

2126
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:10,200
while. 
Mooji wanted it to happen, got 

2127
01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:12,720
it done, good job. 
Now they want to hammer out that

2128
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:14,920
long term deal, which I 
absolutely believe that they 

2129
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:16,320
will. 
Great confidence there. 

2130
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:18,560
We'll see if anybody else gets 
tagged. 

2131
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:21,080
I'm sure they will before the 
4:00 PM deadline today. 

2132
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:23,080
Have a great rest of your 
Tuesday. 

2133
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:25,120
Like it, subscribe. 
All that stuff. 

2134
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:26,320
Catch you guys tomorrow. 
Peace.

