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What's up, everybody? I admit I am.
I am. What's the right word?
I am a little torn and I am a little confused here.
And I'm talking about the quarterback situation around the
NFL specific to The Jets, but also specific to the Vikings and
Miami and the Falcons. So I want to talk about that out
of the shoot. I I do want to let you know
early though, and we get this up there now.
Tomorrow we got a big guest on the show.
So it's the second guest coming on.
I had Sal now tomorrow we start busting out.
Not that Sal's not a heavy hitter.
I don't mean to like that, but now we start tapping into the
Rolodex a little bit here, and my good buddy who I've known
forever, Michael Kay, will join me tomorrow at 10:15.
So I'll start the show. I'll give you about 15 minutes
or so content and me and Michael chop it up for a good 45
minutes, maybe longer. Can't wait.
It's funny, the, you know, Michael, I've known Michael for
God. I've known Michael for just over
20 years at this point. My goodness, now I don't see him
that much. But we never lost contact.
The last time I saw him was at Alex's Christmas party in
December. And he is, he's a rock star man.
He's the voice of the Yankees. As you know, he still has his
radio show. And I can't wait like these
interviews that we do, you know, whether it's Stephen A who I'm
going to have on soon. I know the Greg is going to come
on soon as well. We'll get Booty up, we'll get
Alex up, we'll get Patino up. We'll get a lot of big names up.
But when I do the interviews here, to me, you know, I use the
word interview. It's really more of a
conversation. There are so many things to talk
to Michael about. Obviously we're going to
absolutely crush the Yankee talk.
That's a given. But you know, also the, you
know, the old radio wars and what it was like going up
against Francesa back in the day and just how much radios changed
and even some of the early stories at 10:50 it, it was
wild, man. So they, they, when they, when
they started 10:50, I was working in Detroit.
And then So what year that would have been.
Yeah, I, I think it was, I think it was right before September
11th is when they launched. So obviously 2001.
So I came two years later and I was there from O3 through the
middle of of the 2011. So again, I, I know Michael
really, really well. I think it's going to be
awesome. I reached out to him.
I said, hey, let's go. Got to get you on and these will
be conversations. Yeah, of course.
I'll ask him some questions, but this is going to be great.
J Rod, you would tell me some of your buddies are fired up about
this, huh? Yes, Sir.
Yeah, No, I mean, I think a lot of my homies who you know, are
from the New York City area, you know, been following Michael Kay
for a while, just listening to him, seeing the clips, obviously
as as we've grown up. And so, you know, they're super
fired up for the episode. Yeah, it's funny and I'm going
to talk to him about this. It's amazing to me.
He gets a lot of slack for this, but I don't care.
I really have. And I also don't get inundated
with stuff like he does as the voice of the Yankees.
But he gets a lot of hate and he gets a lot of trolls who jump
into his timeline there and he engages them.
It it's I, I want to really, I want to ask him why.
And, and we've talked about it a little bit off the air
privately. I think it's going to be a
really, really fun, good conversation.
Hey, the WBC starts on Friday. I've actually got what I hope is
going to be Team USA's lineup. I'll get to that a little bit.
All right, so why I'm very confused here.
There's a lot of teams that need quarterbacks.
What else is new? The Jets are one of them.
What else is new? And there's really a dearth of
appealing options in terms of the draft once you get past
Mendoza. You know, as we've discussed
here on the show, I I do like Ty Simpson.
I would be OK now there's more in the process.
Obviously, I would be OK if The Jets use that second pick.
I don't think that they will. I think they're going defense,
defense or defense, wide receiver.
I like Ty Simpson and he had himself very good combine
weekend at Indianapolis over the weekend.
So somebody's going to take him and I believe that somebody's
going to take him inside the top 15.
However, it's not just The Jets, it's the Vikings who have to
figure this out. As I said, it's Miami.
Obviously Tua is going to be a casualty there down to Miami,
The Atlanta Falcons. You know, Panics has been banged
up. The the the situation with Kirk
Cousins did not work out. He's going to be gone anyway.
Why I'm confused here, right? Is there's a player who's going
to be available. And if you told me, you know,
couple of years ago, The Jets or, or any of these other teams,
I don't want to just make it about The Jets.
It's it's a broader, broader topic, a broader concept.
But that, you know, from my point of view, if you told me
that this player was going to be available two years ago, I mean,
I would've been doing somersaults and cartwheels or at
least trying to get him to The Jets.
And that's Kyler Murray. Now, there's a lot, a lot with
Kyler Murray, some good, you know, some very confounding
stuff. He's been banged up a lot.
He's got the ridiculous contract.
So first there's the concept of, you know, and, and what he is a
player and then there's some of the noise that you hear as a
player. He's good.
He's he's not special. He's never going to be special.
And I do think he's fairly limited.
I don't really think that he fits with The Jets going to try
to do with Frank Reich. I thought I saw that Boomer kind
of dismissed that fast. And if not, I don't want to, you
know, incorrectly attribute it to Boomer.
But he obviously knows Frank, like Frank Reich really well.
And I thought that he said the other day I saw it on social
media or somewhere in a comment that he's that he gave a flat no
that The Jets wouldn't be interested in Kylie Murray,
which I'm OK with, right. But I want to set this up and
then I want to present why the the avenue to actually have it
make sense, not just for The Jets, for these other teams to
entice the Cardinals to bite. Now, first we unpack a few
things. You got to know he's still
fairly young. He's 28.
He's been he's been banged up a lot.
Now the contract is a massive issue, All right?
He's in the second year of a $230 million contract.
He signed it back in 2022. He's got about $125 million
guaranteed through 2028. So there's a lot of money and
certain teams, they just can't absorb that because they don't
have the cap space. The move The Jets made with
Jermaine Johnson, as I said yesterday, now this is not
effective cap space because a lot of money is going to go to
draft picks, etcetera, and free agents.
They got to fill out the roster. But right now The Jets have
about 88 to $90,000,000. All right, So the ability to
absorb that just from a pure mathematical point of view, it's
obviously there. Now if. $1,000,000 All right,
$57 million that that's, that's a lot of money.
Now, if you want to do a post June 1 designation, I know I'm
getting a little weezy here, but you have to with this stuff.
If you do that, which The Jets, remember they, they elected not
to do that with Aaron Rodgers. You know, they, they rather,
yeah, they they could have spread this out a little bit
more and I, you know, or, or, or the The Jets could have done
things a little bit differently. They elected not to.
But if the if the Cardinals goal post he won, he still is owed 50
change for 2026 and then $7,000,000 or so in 2027.
All right, so I just wanted at least get the numbers out of the
way. Now you look at the top
quarterback options and forget about the draft, forget about
Mendoza Simpson or whatever else, really the names.
And and this is pretty much regurgitation of things we
talked about here on the show. If you want to go find it, just
scan the channel, hit the library.
I've had I've given you a lot of context on this obviously
leading up to it's a big story. So Malik Willis is going to get
paid the estimated thoughts right around 30 or 35,000,000
bucks a year. I would love to see The Jets
throw their hat in there. I I think Miami's going to be
very active there. I think a few other teams will
be very active. I don't think that The Jets are
looking at Malik Willis the way that I might.
OK, touched on Kyle Murray going to get back to him.
Kirk Cousins. Jeez, I'll get back to Kirk
Cousins in a minute Mariota All right, fine.
If that's the draft somebody and just have a good veteran in
there and then there's obviously guys who need to be you either
need to trade for or guys who need to get cut.
The 2 is the Geno Smith's Davis Mills, Mac Jones will be a
trade, Tanner McGee back up for Philly behind Jalen Hurts.
That's the name that you've heard a lot.
Now I'm good. I've constructed a plan here
where I actually think it makes sense for The Jets or anybody
else to go out there and get Kyler Murray.
But before I give you that, I've got to give you some very
sobering numbers. And quite frankly, I did not
even realize this. Now I like Kyler Murray.
I'm not enamored with Kyler Murray.
Couple of years ago I certainly was.
There was great intrigue and you know, a really interesting two
way explosive athlete. He could run, you know, good arm
as a baseball player. But Warren Sharp is the name who
does some phenomenal work, right, Jay Rod, Do you know
about Drew? Warren Drew About Warren Sharp
at all? No, get me, get me.
Learn it in Warren Sharp. Well, he's basically just covers
the sport. He does a really good job.
He broke down on on such a micro level.
I I have not seen this yet and it's really, really bad.
OK, so I want to give you the bad because I'm constructing a
plan why it would ultimately make sense.
Remember, I started this by saying I'm very confused.
You know, I know The Jets need an upgrade.
I know Miami's got to do something that I know that the
Falcons need to do something. The Browns might do something.
I don't really know how they feel about you Door Sanders with
the new staff. Either way, again, it's not just
about The Jets here. So Warren Sharp did a deep dive.
Now I I want to try to keep it somewhat simple.
I don't want to just bombard you guys with numbers.
I tried not to do this on the radio with like the baseball
savant stuff. It becomes mentally paralyzing
when just number, number, number, number.
But this stuff really matters, all right?
And I think that this will, if you're pro Connor Murray, this
will, I think, negatively transform your thoughts the
other way. Anyway, in the in the last four
years now he's missed a lot of games and I'll chronicle that in
a minute as well. But a passes of 25, your yards
or more, all downfield stuff, 25 yards or more.
He ranked 36 out of 36 eligible players right in completion
percentage and 36 out of 36 in yards per 10th.
Absolutely hideous numbers, nowhere near reflective of
anybody that deserves the contract that he got and
certainly nobody that you would really run, you know, climb a
mountain to to try to go into choir.
I mean, that is very sobering. All right, you tell me.
Well, he does. So he's not going to bomb away
even though he's got a baseball arm, as you know, as as a first
round pick of the A's back in the day, he does not connect.
All right, the yards per attempt doesn't take many shots
downfield. What he does, the completion
percentage is paltry. That's a problem.
All right, well, 25 yards is a pretty good shot downfield.
Let's go incremental again. This all warrant sharp.
This is not me. Let's go 5 yards below that and
let's go from 25 yards down to 20.
Alright, maybe he's going to get a little bit better there.
Where's he stack up? No, he still stinks.
He is 40 out of 46 in completion percentage and he is 42 out of
46 in yards per 10th. Stinks, all right?
He doesn't like to throw the ball down the field.
Not 25 yards, not 20. Let's get a little bit more of
an intermediate route. Can you do that?
Let's go to 15 yards or more. All right, Well, not good
either. He is 42 out of 51 in completion
percentage, and he's 47 out of 51 in in yards per attempt.
Those numbers are absolutely ridiculously bad.
So we know he can run, we know he can make plays, we know he's
had some good years, couple of Pro Bowls and he's sub 30, which
is obviously good. And he hasn't really been in a
good situation either. But now you get to the other
aspect of trying to make a move for somebody like Conor Murray.
And he's always banged up. And listen, this is something I
learned, you know, whether it's me who's, who's always hurt, but
more importantly, real athletes. Tiki told me this and I said
this the other day, Tiki brought this up when we were doing the
national show very early. So I'm going back to like
20/13/2014. Remember the first time he said
this, he's like, dude, there are certain guys who were just bad
cell guys. They're just their body the way
God made them. They just don't stay healthy and
they're never going to stay healthy.
And they're just, it's not going to change, right?
So I think one of the foolish things in in in sports is to
take somebody who's banged up a lot and then expect it to change
radically. Like it's one thing to think,
you know, throughout of arrogance or planning or
confidence, whatever. Hey, this guy was in a bad
system. No old line, no weapons that can
win on the outside, you know, very benign play calling.
The defense stunk, so they were always down multiple scores,
which made what they were going to do very predictable.
So you couldn't really run it very much.
You didn't have a good favorable split run versus the pass.
All that football stuff, which I do think matters and I do think
applies because there's a lot of guys who their first act was not
very good. They got in a better situation,
better online, better weapons, more stable coaching, better
franchise, all that stuff that really does, especially for a
quarterback, man it it, it is paramount that you have at least
a few of those things. And then even if you're missing
one or two, talent could elevate you to a place that is still
very successful. But if you are hurt, like the
trainers are not going to be so much better in terms of
preventative measures or getting somebody healthy when they're
hurt like he he, it's a problem. The guy's always hurt.
All right, so and I'll get to the master plan in a second.
You look at his injury history and it started early in 2021, he
jacked up his ankle and he missed multiple games.
All right, it happens. Guys get hit quarterback spot
running for your life, young quarterback, bad team, get it.
You go to 2022 had a hamstring issue and then he he obviously
missed a lot of time. He's tore, he tore his ACL and
was at his PCL or his MCL. I think it was the medial either
way, he shredded his ACL, missed a ton of time.
Then you get to 2022 and he played only 8 of 17 games
because he was rehabbing from the torn ACL, which obviously
is, you know, you know, the timeline with the ACL.
And then last year and this was really, this was like where you
like, I mean, it's just not going to work for this dude for
the most part. Last year he missed 12 out of 17
games. He had the Linds Frank injury,
Chin Ming Wong had that. If you're a big Yankee fan,
remember that he got hurt running the bases in Houston.
It basically, it is a, it is a midfoot sprain and it is
anything but benign. It is a problem.
Now, I'm not saying it's not going to be healthy this year,
but like when you're dealing with that in real time, not
good. The other thing that that Sharp
did, Warren Sharp did, and this was really interesting.
And again, I, I, you know, you, you've got to factor this in,
especially for a team like The Jets, the Browns, the Steelers,
the Ravens, the Bills, the Patriots, like those Northeast
teams that just play in consistent inclement weather
when you get past Halloween. This was amazing.
Based on when he was hurt and the amount of games that he
played versus the ones that he missed, only 12.
This is crazy. Only 12 of his 41 games were
outdoors since 2022. And the numbers, and I'm not,
I'm going to stop hitting you with numbers here.
Warren Sharp actually did this, but I'm going to stop because
it's getting too much even for me.
But if you do a micro deep dive into those games, playing 12 out
of 41 games outdoors, the 12 games outdoors, the numbers were
hard. OK, so smaller sample hasn't
played well outdoors, hasn't been healthy, hasn't been good
throwing the ball downfield at all.
And by the way, 15 yards downfield is not really
downfield like that's as I said, that's a very intermediate
route. So all those things.
But I might have one more for you.
Yeah, I do. I wouldn't even take it down to
10 plus yards. Your boy did some research.
All right, So, well, Warren did it and then I found it.
But if I wasn't looking for the research, I wouldn't have come
across Warren stuff, which is great.
The last four years combined, Throw it all in a blender,
right. 10 yards. So we're basically talking a
step above screen passes of at least 175 attempts or more.
He had, he was 36 out of 43 in completion percentage, which is
just, I mean, good God almighty, that is just wretchedly bad.
And 41 out of 43 in yards per attempt.
And I think this is the last number of the 32 qualifying
quarterbacks he did not rank in the top 32 throwing downfield.
This is just now an all-encompassing of, of
everything that I hit you with 10 yards, 15 yards, 20 yards or
25 yards. So I guess the question really
we can ask is like what the hell does he do?
Well, it's not healthy. Can't throw it past 10, can't
throw it past 15, doesn't throw it past 20 and it's awful
throwing it past 2025. So why in the world am I about
to tell you that not only The Jets, but any team that needs a
quarterback, why in the world would I say that they should go
out and engage with the Cardinals right now for a trade
and not wait for him to be released?
I'm going to tell you why, because the incentive for
Arizona is through the roof to shed that contract, which is why
most people think that he's going to be released, which, by
the way, I agree with. I think that that's probably
what's going to happen. But I want to give the Cardinals
something to think about. I'm calling them up.
And Mooji. Mooji is the kind of GM forward
thinker who's probably already kicking this around upstairs.
I'm going to call up Arizona and I'm going to tell him very
simple. All right, we want to trade for
calamari because we've got $90,000,000 in cap space and
about 50-60 in effective cap space.
We can absorb it. So we're one of the we we know
you don't want him. You got to move on. 1st overall
pick didn't work out, hasn't won, banged up, not performing
and and we know that you like Jacoby percent better, which by
the way, The Jets probably like Jacoby percent better as well.
Doesn't turn the ball over. But how you engage the Cardinals
is by giving them something to think about that I don't think
any other teams going to do. And this is what it is when you
if you call them and talk to them about acquiring Kyler
Murray, it's not just, hey, we want to trade for Kyler Murray.
It's it's a step further. We want Kyler Murray, but we
will only take him off your hand, off your hands if you
throw a nice pick in there. So you can do a couple of things
here. If you're a bad team and you
need a sizeable upgraded quarterback, which The Jets and
others absolutely do well, the way you make this deal work is
because you're taking on so much money of an undesirable
contract. OK, you're getting them to give
you a draft pick. Now you're not going to get a
first overall pick. So what would you get, genius?
So you construct this plan. You're OK with Kalahari coming
to The Jets. You've got a plan to get the
Cardinals to at least think about it.
How would the draft equity and the draft capital, how would it
actually make sense? Here's the answer.
The way you make it make sense. Is this because he's hurt a lot?
You're not going to get the Cardinals to just give you like
a premium pick. For me, a premium pick is a
second round pick. Feel that's got to stop
happening. Yeah, I mean, I, I don't know
what is going on here. I told you.
It's the Wi-Fi. I got it.
I got it shacked up. I got to get fixed up.
I will whatever, but the way you make that look nice.
Nice transition there, J Ron. Get right back to the content.
Plow through. Hey, step over the little
obstacle. Keep it moving.
Good job. J Ron.
Would it be locked in today? So to me, I think a nice draft
package in return would be, let's start with the third
rounder, all right? And if Kyler Murray does not
play at least 9 or 10 games and it's got to be because of injury
designation, it can't be. And we're going to just sit him
on the bench because we want to have this trigger to a more
favorable draft pick because that's the deal we set up.
You'd have to work that into the contract.
And the Cardinals, if they don't, they're idiots.
Which, by the way, they might be so.
Think about this, you absorb all the money going to be $50
million Cardinals off, off the hook, they could get on with
their business. The Jets have the money to do it
and by the way, the Vikings don't have the money to do it.
I don't want to just keep a Jet specific.
The doubts don't have the money to do it and I and I and Atlanta
does not have the money that The Jets have either.
So The Jets are a good spot to at least give them something to
think about. Now let's say they make a trade
and they agree. All right, Kyler Murray, Jets,
you absorb the money and they settle.
Even if it's a fourth round pick.
Let's just go 4th. All right, Maybe I'm thinking
too ambitiously here. Let's go fourth round pick.
Well, if Kyler Murray doesn't play the X amount of game,
whatever the allotment is determined during the the trade.
If he doesn't play X amount of games, that that fourth round
pick becomes a third. So if the Linds Frank gets
jacked up or he pulls A hamstring or God forbid
something else happens to the I don't see anybody get hurt.
But if something else happens now, the 4th becomes a third or
the third becomes a two, it's basically incentive to to to
have the Cardinals think about this.
Because for the Jet, he's not good enough, all right?
He's not enough of a difference maker, doesn't play well
outside. I gave you all the other
numbers. I don't need to just keep
resetting that. So you've got to do something
that gives The Jets incentive to want to do this.
And then you got to give something to the Cardinals to
really think about. That's how you construct a deal.
See, in my mind, right, there's always to make it.
There's always a way to make a trade.
There's always an Ave. there's always a lane to get somebody to
really contemplate. Man, man, do we really want to
do this here? We don't want to, we don't want
to move forward with Kyler Murray, but man, we don't want
this money on our books. It's just too burdensome here.
I'll have The Jets. They'll take them off our hands
for a fourth round pick or a third, even with a with a
triggering up if he if he's hurt again, I think that that could
be a way to get this done. I really do.
Now, I also think that there's better options out there and
understand this because when you make a trade, you make a trade
for two reasons. Now, the first one is very
obvious. You make a trade to get better,
You make a trade to save, you make a trade to save jobs.
Now, Mooji doesn't have to do that because I think Darren
Mooji's distinguished himself pretty well early on, very well.
You know, I've got profound belief in him as a as as a
general manager who reads the trade market well, is proactive,
is aggressive, is out-of-the-box, has has shown
some signs of drafting well, has shown some very good signs of
being able to look at other rosters that other teams view as
less desirable commodities. Bring them in, whether it's
return game, you know, Mooji, they kept messing around with
that. They found somebody who had
multiple returns for touchdowns. Like those are little moves.
That gives me confidence that Mooji knows what he's doing.
Absolutely. So you make a trade obviously to
get better the other way though, and now I want to incorporate
somebody like a Kirk Cousins and and somebody like Jacoby
Brissette. The other reason why you make a
trade is just just to raise the floor, all right, And yes, to
win some more games, to change perception, to change the energy
and the stench, get rid of the stench of the building which is
swallowed up The Jets and some of these other teams for far too
long. But I'm a big believer, even if
you can make a trade, right, and the ultimate goal, at least in
the moment, and, and the belief like, well, I mean, the goal is
nobody's going to sit there and say, oh, we have no chance to
win the Super Bowl. Nobody thinks like that.
If you do, you're you're an inherent loser.
Even the worst teams are in their minds, they are, even if
it's outlandishly, you know, unattainable, you know, to the
common person like us on the outside looking in, they don't
think that way because they think that their plan that
they've crafted all offseason is going even for the bad teams,
the horrible teams is going to be one that is going to be good
enough to elevate them to be in the playoff mix.
And then when you get to the playoffs, you never know what's
going to happen, All right, You know, and it should never be
based on rooting for injury ever, certainly not for me.
But you know, think about about the AFC this year and the Chiefs
weren't the same team with Mahomes.
They weren't the same offense with Mahomes because their stars
were getting old or whatever. But you know, Patrick Mahomes
goes down. That changes the entire opening
or the window for some team. So I really think that The Jets,
lesser extent, I, I think let, let me let me go to the four
teams that are already outlined. So I think The Jets are in the
position of just merely needing to elevate the floor to a more
competitive, more aesthetically pleasing, more balanced
presentation. That's The Jets.
The Vikings got to win all right, because a couple of years
ago the Vikings were really good with Sam Darnold.
They let him go. Idiotic move.
Sam wins the Super Bowl, gets paid right, all that stuff.
And, and rightfully so. And the Vikings are now left
with a roster, you know, you you very well might have the best
receiver in football and Justin Jefferson, you've got some
weapons, you've got some players.
So what the Vikings are doing this off season is to their
aspiration should be let's attack the quarterback position
with somebody that we think could, you know, get us back to
that. You know, even though they won
more than 10 games with Sam, get into that 10 win ish of maybe
even 11 win threshold and even in a very good division because
the NFC North is now stacked and just have a chance to throw our
hat in the ring, get to the playoffs beyond and make a move
right. Because what happens like the
worst spot to be in, We think the worst spot is being fans of
a team that has no talent. Now that sucks.
I mean it's Sundays are boring. There's no hope.
It's listless, but at least when you have a team with no talent,
all right, generally, unless you're a complete loser
franchise like the Browns because of that stupid, the Shaw
and and sorry Browns fans, I'm I love you, but it is what it is
and who am I to judge? But like at least The Jets have
cap space. All right, the deal that they
gave to Deshaun Watson 230,000,200 and 30 million
guaranteed contract that is really prevented them from doing
anything meaningful. So I would much rather stink and
have a ton of draft capital, check for The Jets stink and
have a ton of cap space for The Jets check then be like the
Vikings in. I don't think this sounds odd in
a fairly undesirable situation with the quarterbacks because
there's no home runs out there. But it but a roster with some
big contracts, some expectations, a fan base that
thought they were going to keep winning ownership.
Think about the GM. He's gone ownership that thought
that they were going to win and you know, kind of be in no man's
land. Like The Jets aren't in no man's
land. They're just wretched.
They got to figure out a way to get more talent and stock the
cupboards And and I almost think that with a new GM, not if
you're in Year 5, that's awful, but if you're going into year 2,
that's a good spot to be in. All right, let's see BT keep
grinding and ignore the haters. Also shout out to my wife
Mercedes, what's up, Mercedes? I don't see a lot of haters
here. I mean, there's haters in the
world there and I appreciate the the, you know, the shout out
there in the, you know, like the the confidence boost.
Not that I really need one. J Rod, are we getting hit with
haters today? Well, what am I missing here?
I mean, I'm not seeing too many, I'm not seeing too many haters.
I mean, there's, you know, there's a couple, couple haters
on The Jets down here. Won't.
You pop a few, pop the haters up, I'll have a little What's my
boy hater? A little hater rate.
See, I'm my. Every show talk jets.
I'm not March 3rd, I'm not what I'm doing.
Is I'm talking NFL quarterbacks? Is that that hard to comprehend?
I mean, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't hear
properly, I don't know what to tell you.
You're still talking football. Unless you're gambling,
football's a super boring sport. Well, Mikey, what sport do you
like? Dude, it's the number one sport
in in, in not in the world. That's soccer in our country.
Now, listen, there's a lot of issues with the NFL.
What do you want me to talk about?
I'm going to get to the WBCI talk Yanks and Mets in baseball
every day. I got Nuggets for you.
I talk NBA. What do you what else is out
there, buddy? What would you?
How about this? All right, who's that?
Weaving underwater basket weaving.
That's what he wants you to touch on, Yeah.
Well, you got the wrong show for that, buddy.
Go find somebody else. Here's what I'm going to give
you the power to do. All right, since you're so
smart, since you're such a genius, since you're apparently
evidently an aspiring program director or content director,
I'm going to give you the latitude and I'm going to have J
Rod put it up on the screen. Whatever.
If you could actually figure something out, and I want you to
tell me. All right?
I want you to tell. I'll read it.
I'll read, I promise. I want you to write out three
things that you think are more worthy of starting a show today.
It is. And I promise you I will read
them. And if they're good, I'll give
you props. I don't think they're going to
be good because I know what I'm doing, so I listen.
If it was, I don't know April 7th that I'm doing this probably
a little bit off base couple of weeks into the season March
Madness, you know, final four just wrapped up NFL draft around
the corner. What are you talking about,
dude? I I want to see if you even have
the guts to try to put something up there.
See that's what I love. I listen the and I, I, I don't,
I don't think now I know I have haters, but I actually get more
support than I do hate. I, I can't really quantify that.
Like you'd have to really read everything that I get in the
messages. I'm, I'm not going to give you
access to it, but I feel, I feel as if I am more loved than
loathed. I really believe that I felt it
when things ended at the fan. I still see a lot of comments
about what what went down and all that stuff, you know,
wishing me and Sal were still on the air.
And by the way, that show never should have been taken off the
show. It was the best show.
It was great. We all know that.
And I, I think that when I, when I read that stuff, I read it
because the, I read it not to get validation necessarily,
because the validation is what I've done so far in my career.
And this is a new, new chapter, admittedly.
And I haven't, I'm not making any money yet.
I get it. But the the haters or fuel, like
I take that as fuel because this you got to remember, guys, this
started take a little sideswipe, as we sometimes do here on BT
unleashed. When I told everybody that I
wanted to be a sports broadcaster when the baseball
dream so painfully died. Oh God, did that hurt J Rod, You
know that that hurt man. You knew when it when it when I
had to officially take off the spikes and hang it up.
You know, even though in my heart I knew, you know, even
before I did that, that there wasn't going to go where I
wanted it to go necessarily, you know, playing for the Yankees,
taking over for Donnie baseball first base.
When I told everybody, my best friends and my family, obviously
first and foremost what I was going to do, even my dad who you
listen to that final show on the fan and my dad is the best.
I he's probably watching right now.
I'm going to get my dad on the show.
Maybe dude do a little old school baseball.
I've said that a few times. He's got to figure out, you know
how to get into the to the link here and J Rod J Rod and mom
will help him with that. My dad's the best, but I
remember because my dad is very practical and very conservative
in a lot of things and how he views the world.
And my dad, who, you know, was, was a detective for a long time
and also opened his own business after that and, and did well and
very proud of him, worked his ass off.
That's why we went from the, you know, broken down, dilapidated
cars that he would, he would buy for like 1000 bucks when he saw
a sign of the car on the street actually having a, a few new
cars, right? And that was great and I'm proud
of him. But my dad, just based on how he
was raised and the era in which he was raised, was brought up
with, you got to have a plan. That's why he's like, I'll take
the police test. No, I'm not going to I'm not
that's not what I'm doing. And I remember I actually got
into a fight with him like a, a, a vicious argument when, when
something happened early and I thought I was going to get my
first radio job. And then it was like it was
promised to me. And I was like 20, whatever
years old, just out of school promised to me.
And then it was taken away. And I won't bore you with the
story. I eventually got it right.
But you know, we kind of exploded each other.
His explosion to me was him trying to protect me, which I
understand. This is dad.
And I think if you're of the older generation and you are
Irish, not the stereotype, but I'm Irish.
So I can say this, you know, the, the Irish generally have a
rougher time expressing themselves.
Like my mom was always I love you and soft and you could do
it. You can do whatever you want.
My dad was more practical because my dad is the head of
the household and the man who and my mom didn't, she worked
for a little bit, but she was when we were young, she was
always home, right? Always home and during lunch
after school. And he's of the mindset all
right about, you know, I'm raising a man here.
Eventually he's got to be able to put food on the table pay for
a home and and do all that stuff.
And and he didn't really think that this radio thing was
necessarily viable. I told you it was pops told you
and and and so the only one that really, really truly and my
sister did a little bit as well was my mom who said not she had
full unflinching, unwavering conviction in me.
So I am from even my best buddies were like who were on
Wall Street making money and I was making 16,000 bucks and
they're starting to make some some bank and and they they
believed in me. But early on they're like, man,
this is going to be hard. Why are you going to move to
Pennsylvania? You're going to move to this
tiny town to be on the right. Yeah, you're damn right I'm
going to do it because I'm going to make it so Any of the hate,
any of that stuff, it is fuel. It is oxygen.
Bring it on. All right.
But I also don't think that I really get more hate than either
appreciation or respect or love, because I support.
I think at the end of the day, I think it's very, very obvious
that one of my greatest strengths here is that is that
I'm real and that I'm not arrogant and that I'm a really
hard worker. And I think that you guys know
that and I'm prepared and I'm fair and I'm not lazy.
So yeah. And by the way, I'm still
waiting for this nitwit. Did he get something up there
or? No, Not anything.
Not up in. Silence as usual.
See that's that's the other thing too.
Like I don't and that's why I'm looking forward to having
Michael Kate. One one of the many reasons
Michael Michael engages with the trolls on Twitter.
Like he will actually subtweet stuff.
And and I don't know why he does it.
I mean, the guy's got more money than he could want.
He's the voice of the Yankees. He's gonna be in Cooperstown
someday in the broadcast was a Hall of Famer.
And when I tell him that, he's like, I had no chance.
I'm like, dude, you've been doing the Yankees for multiple
decades, for like 30 something years.
You're going to be in the Hall of Fame.
You've called championship after championship and big, you're
going to be there, man. And I guess if you're handy,
can't really think that way. So I respect that.
But he he, he goes and he doesn't really go after the
trolls, but he will engage with them And and I'm like, why?
They are useless people. It is useless energy generally.
Generally, trolls are people. I didn't even think I'd get into
this. Trolls are people who one, have
no confidence, 2 are incredibly jealous, three have no real plan
in life. You know what I mean?
That's pretty much what it comes down to, no?
It's, it's tough. And this is what's interesting
about I think, you know, your trolls maybe in particular, at
least the people I see on Twitter, they really love you.
Like, that's the funny. Thing is, like, these people
might generally or genuinely be more interested in your career,
your trajectory, your whatever, than the people who are
incredibly invested. Because it's like, you know,
these people are taking time out of their day pretty much most
days of the week to say something.
And it's like, they must love this guy.
They must. Yeah, yeah, I get a lot on the
one thing I've noticed here and, and it's, it's not even it's,
it's more of a, a response like yesterday we put that out there.
Have I been unfair to the Knicks?
Right. I don't think I've been unfair
to the Knicks at all because at the start of the season, I I
said I thought the Knicks would win 5455 games, be the first or
the second seed in the Eastern Conference.
Get back to the, you know, go to the conference finals and you
don't have a real chance to win a deep series and get to the NBA
Finals and then probably lose to OK C.
Now, if they play Denver, they could beat them.
But OK C is the team if they get healthy, all that stuff, that's
the team you got to worry about the most.
And I think one thing that Nick fans say about me is that I'm
too reactive after bad moments. You know what I mean?
Like, but I don't even think. And by the way, I I have no
problem absorbing criticism. I've got no problem looking in
the mirror and say you fucked that up, dude.
That was off, that was mad at that.
That's why I own stuff. You know, whether it was Zach
Wilson, whether it was Lindor only hitting right-handed.
I mean, there's been some horrendous takes out of me over
the years. Of course, dude, I get that.
But I don't even think that I've been unfair to the Knicks.
I think I've been as engaged as anybody who does what I do for a
living, covering and following the Knicks because unlike many
people, I never stopped watching the Knicks when they were awful.
All right, So you know, the the fluctuations in expectation,
they are what they are. And when Detroit pushes you
around and mops you by 37. And you know when, When Mike
Brown is hugging Draymond Green after Draymond was talking smack
about Cat and when Mike Brown was hugging Bickerstaff after
another watch job by the Pistons?
Like, what am I supposed to say? Oh, the Knicks will be fine.
Like, what do you guys expect? I don't know what people expect.
I know the world's gotten incredibly soft.
Like, trust me, I'm well aware of that, but I don't know about
me having been raised on sports radio, Mike and Chris, and fall
asleep to the radio and all that stuff every night, as you know,
like to me, if I heard something that was inauthentic or not
relatable or not applicable, I'd be like, this guy sucks.
You know, if you know what, here I'm going to say something that
I think is going to sound incredibly egotistical, and I
don't mean it that way, but I don't know how else to say it.
J Rod, I really think that if you know sports and you really
know what you're talking about and you're not lazy and you're
not just watching a highlight and getting a little something
off TikTok or a little, you know, a little quote off for
social media that gets hijacked. If you're really in the trenches
and love sport and know sport and follow sport and best
yourself, your time and sport, I think you love me because I
think that you know that I do that.
Even if you disagree with my assertions.
I'll tell you one thing. I don't know.
I don't want to do this for an hour.
I'm going to move on to a second.
Jeez, I don't know. I really don't know of a person
that is, you know, everybody knows I'm a Yankee fan.
I don't hide that. But I don't know anybody in our
business that is a Yankee fan that is as fair or as
knowledgeable out the about the Mets more than me.
I don't know anybody. And I've worked with basically
everybody in the business in New York, everybody.
And if I haven't worked with him, I've worked at the same
station with him, you know what I mean?
So I think that I'm always rooted in transparency and it
being fair. By the way, has Mr. Nitwit come
up with a couple of bulletproof channels incapable My.
Guess would be he's he's long gone.
My guess would be he came in, shot a shot.
Shot an air ball. Shot an air ball, shot a little
who was AD Aaron Fox the other day off the right side of the
basket and then dipped. He did dip a little dippage
there. Let me get D under score.
Rod Kay doesn't have thin skin. It's trying to understand why
people say the stupid things they do online because they
wouldn't say that stuff to your face.
I, I mean, I think that that's a part of it.
And, and not to, not to alienate my guest and my good buddy, I do
think that Michael does have a little bit of thin skin.
I've talked to him about this. I think that he really does care
a little bit more than he should about what people say that, you
know, I, I really, I do, I, you know, and I think that, no, I, I
think to, to be obtuse, to not follow to an extent how you're
perceived is really dumb. Like, I think that and, and
that, that's why I, I will dive into comments here and there and
do a little digging. I true story.
So I guess about this was about a year how long ago?
Maybe about a year or so ago, right.
That's actually a good illumination of of how people
think and how much inaccuracy is out there.
All right, somebody at this, I'm not going to say his name,
somebody at WFAN, not on the air.
Good guy. I don't even know if he's still
there. I I hope he wasn't let go.
He may have been after me. I hope not.
The radio lifer, like one of the production guys who, you know,
you got to cut a spot. I know you know this, but I'm
going to explain this to everybody.
So I do a lot of work with Verizon.
All right, so I had a relationship with Verizon for
about five years on the fan, which means I would record
promos. So he would call me in.
Hey, we got the new spot. I would read it whether it's 30
seconds, 60 seconds, I would read it and then you would hear
it on WFANI would also do a live reads during the show.
And my relationship, I'm very proud to say has continued with
Verizon. I'm doing motivational speaking
with them on March 12th. I think Joe Torre is going to be
there as well. Big room about 150 Verizon
executives spoke with spoke there a year ago.
Great relationship, right? And the hold on one SEC hold on.
I got the cleaners. Oh God, dude, come on.
Not now. Oh God, they got you know I'm
picking it up. No, but I but I can hear it now.
It's distracting me right outside the all right, I'll try
to plow through. I guess it's better to have a
cleaner house than they come every couple weeks.
It's not like we're that we're not that rich.
They're coming every day coming every few weeks.
Anyway, so this gentleman says to me one day when I'm after I
record the Verizon spot, he goes, hey, he goes, things have
started to change a little bit for you and Sal on Reddit.
I go, what the fuck is what's why don't you know what Reddit
is? I mean, I know, you know, Serena
is like married to the the entrepreneur who started, I
believe started started Reddit, right?
So I mean, I've heard of it. I don't I don't know what it is
and I really didn't care to ever find out what it was.
So he's like, Oh yeah, people are starting to really dig BT
and Sal. I won't say the name of the
other show because I don't want to be that guy.
I guess obviously Sal and I were getting crushed when we first
started. Probably the Carl Bank stuff and
the other things too. But anyway, it was about they're
like, no, that the energy started shit.
Now they're attacking another show and you guys are starting
to get a lot of love. You started to get embraced and
starting to get received by the Reddit community.
I'm like great to the as long as they listen every day.
Yeah, I don't know. So I really did not even know.
I didn't even I I've never been. I don't have a Reddit account.
I never will. No.
Why the hell would I do that? No, it's funny.
I was, I mean, I was looking you up the other day on it, but but
it's nothing that I put out there.
No, no, no, it cuz Reddit, it's more of like a, I'd say it's
like a community space where people discuss.
So there'd be like posts where someone be like BT is starting a
new show unleashed where he's doing da da da da da da.
And then like people in the comments would kind of just
discuss it and be like, Hey, good for him or, you know,
whatever or horrible. Move by the station, get rid of
that, stuff like that. Yeah, I got you.
I saw a few of those. All right, So no, I have since
leaned into it like I I at least know what it is now.
And I knew about the concept, but I didn't really know.
Yeah, that's basically what it seems like.
So when he told me that I'm like, alright, good.
Well, that that must be good. And then I'm like, how do you
even find it? So I just googled WFI made, I
think it was WFA and Reddit, and I see this whole page come up.
I'm like, what the hell is this? So I click on it and I'm like,
they've got all different shows and all different topics and
clowning on. It's mostly clowning on people
and hating on people. I mean, nobody espouses any sort
of love or affection there. So I'm reading.
I'm like, wow, they really were against me and Sal even more
than I thought, right? And then what do you know?
And this is really life. When they made the decision to
move on from BT and Sal, the tone completely changed on
Reddit. And I'm like, OK, all right, so
that's why you can't take that stuff too serious.
And again, I'd much better. I'd much rather be like than
hate it. I mean, I've always openly
admitted that, but I don't know it.
It's just that one little comment to me is really funny.
But really, I'm still, you know, I'm still inviting you to come
back. But anytime you want a volley
back is the program director. You know, I'm, I'm got, you
know, maybe you've got your own little YouTube channel set up in
mommy's basement. You got your 13 followers and,
you know, maybe we can do a collaboration or something.
Tell you how it's done. Hey, come on, dude.
All right, let me see here what else is going back.
You know this this has popped up a little bit.
We got lying here. We got eleven O 182 Geno back to
The Jets. That would be interesting Yeah,
I know I mean this listen, if just tuning in.
This is not a referendum on of hate or trolls as just I kind of
branched off into one of the topics.
I started the show a very calamari heavy because we are at
a very important point of the NFL calendar now by the way, we
will find out today and you need to be so I know you know this J
Rob, but you need to be pecking away and hunting all of the
pertinent jets accounts out there NFL accounts because by
4:00 PM Eastern today, the teams need to make the designation as
to whether or not they're going to offer the transition or the
franchise. The franchise tag for Breeze
hall is 14.1 or 14.314 point 1. I think the transition tag is
11.3. Obviously if you and they're
going to slap the tag on him, he's not going to walk out the
door. I thought it's I saw something
from Connor Hughes, who I think is great covering The Jets and
some others before I came on the show.
Keep that up there. I'll get to it that it doesn't
look as if they're, even though they're trying that they will
have a deal sold by or set settled upon by 4:00 PM today,
which means they're going to have to slap one of the tags.
Now if you do the franchise tag, it's $3,000,000 more, but it
gives you a window obviously, I think till July.
I've got it written down somewhere July something where
then you can still work out a long term deal.
But the problem is you've got to carry that number on the cap and
it's it's applied to the monies and The Jets are obviously
trying to build out their roster.
Not that you couldn't do it, but if you do the 14 one, the
franchise, no other team can do it.
That's it. He's a Jet no matter what.
If you do the, I know that some of you, many of you know this,
but if you do the transition, it's more appealing because it's
$3,000,000 less. But then obviously other teams
can come in and, and try to, you know, offer contracts, whatever,
blah, blah, blah. So that that's more of a direct
way the franchise tag to make sure Bruce doesn't leave the
building, which he's not. I always thought that it's funny
based on what it looks like is going to happen.
That's really the opposite of what I basically thought was
going to happen. I thought one, they would find a
way to find common ground. Ten $11 million long term deal,
30 something guaranteed, you know, very, very team friendly.
Breeze happy, solidify the bag, all good.
And he should because he's very good.
He's very young. He's going to be paid like it's
top five, top 6 running back, the markets changing a bit.
But I, I, I don't think that that's going to happen.
And I thought it was going to be either #1 long term deal #2
transition tag #3 franchise. I'm going to actually flip that
where I think as of where I sit now, you know, just about
whatever it is, I don't know, a couple hours away from the
deadline. I think it's probably more
probable that it would be the franchise tag, then the
transition, then the long term deal.
So we'll see. All right, let's get to this
here. MMM.
Iano. What's up, Mike?
Thank you for that, Mike. Very, very nice.
Thank you, dude. Jet should trade for.
Yeah. Yeah, maybe he lives and
breathes football, has it mentally good athleticism, 6325
years old, makes 5,000,000 bucks a year, Use the cap space and
picks to build the team. Yeah, I mean, there's a thank
you for that. Again, thanks for checking in.
Dude. There's a lot of targets out
there, not just for The Jets, for a lot of teams.
I mean, I started this by throwing the Falcons in there,
the Vikings, The Jets, the Dolphins, all tenuous
quarterback situations, varying degrees of where they are.
Vikings are trying to win right away.
Jets are just trying to elevate the floor.
Dolphins are, you know, kind of in between Falcons based on
their talent, they got a lot of talent OR somewhere in between
and they don't love Penix. Obviously Cousins didn't work
out. So there's, let me see, 24689.
There's nine names that I've given you, Willis and summer,
free agent, summer trades, Willis, Kyler Murray, Kirk
Cousins, Mariota, Tua, Gino, Davis Mills, Mac Jones, and then
Tanna McGee. And I, I would love Tanna McGee
and then maybe Tyrod is the backup and then a quarterback in
the draft. These are all the things that
they've got do and they're not alone because if you don't have
a quarterback, you are just perpetually hunting one down
because you can't win without 1. So when I it's funny anytime and
I think Evan, I think Evan was was.
I don't want to misrepresent Evan.
I think Evan was for Kyla Murray.
I think maybe either way, I was not all right.
And because I was just thinking of the concept of Kyler Murray,
he's never going to win you a Super Bowl.
Now, he will elevate the floor and and I'm good with that.
But the other thing about Kyler Murray is he's just not all in
on football. That's the scout report.
Listen, I'm not in his mansion or his beautiful condo.
When he gets home for the facility, I don't know what time
he parks his car and walks into the facility to scour film, but
everything emanating out of Arizona is that he is kind of
one of these Hollywood quarterbacks who's half in.
He's not a real leader. And then he makes in the fact
that. And now The Jets can absorb
this, as I chronicle before, very few teams can.
But he's got a $50 million price tag this year and he's got two
more year, you know, a lot, a lot more guaranteed money.
And you know, I gave you the numbers and and that's that's
that's not that's not good. I can live with that.
If you're a baller and you're all in and the situation just
didn't work out. If I know you're a film head and
you getting in there and your guy who's going to galvanized
the team in the weight room, on the practice field, in the
classroom, you know, OTAs and stuff.
And and maybe Kyler Murray would take a very different approach
with a new team. I mean, he better otherwise he
could be out of the league soon. But I am, I'm of a firm belief,
I'm a staunch believer in this, that your trajectory can change.
Certainly, I'm talking primarily from the quarterback position.
Your trajectory can radically change whether it was, you know,
who's a good name to give you. I'm going to try to give you an
old one here, Rich Gannon. All right, Rich Gannon, I just
want to write down the name Rich.
I don't want to forget it. Your trajectory can change if
you are a quarterback who is drafted to a bad spot, right?
And poor coaching or multiple coaches and multiple GMs and
different systems, like maybe even if the head coach stays.
But the first year you've got one system and then the OC gets
whacked and a new guy comes in and he's got different schemes.
And you try to, you know, you're trying to learn that if you
finally figured out the first one like that swallows up a lot
of talented players. It just does.
All right, so that is that that is the realness and that is the
reality of being an NFL quarterback.
But at the very least, like if you don't have a couple of non
negotiable traits for me, I just can't have you in my building
unless there are a ton of vets that you trust and a coach that
has some winning equity and and stable ownership, you know, and
AGM has been around the block for a little bit, knows what
he's doing. Like to if, if Colin Murray's
not going to get his act together and become a diligent
pro, and if he hasn't by the age of 28, he's probably not going
to do it anytime soon, then why would I trust Aaron Glenn, who I
like and I think could be, I think he's a leader of men, but
then he's got to win. Then he was awful last year, as
was the team and Mooji, who's good, but they're all young and
Woody's a clown. Ownership is horrendous.
Like is that the best situation? No, I think probably the best
situation is the Vikings for somebody like Kyla Murray, which
is why the odds on favorite, the betting odds that were just
released, the Vikings are the number one favorite to get him
and The Jets are #2 and there's a few other teams out there, so
I don't know that just to finish that Rich Gannon thought.
Rich Gannon. Hey, J Rod, do me a favor, bud.
Yeah, what's up? Type up Rich Gannon stats.
All right. You ever hear Rich Cannon?
It's a long time ago. If you didn't, it's not a big
deal. Don't worry about it.
You ever hear Rich? OK, it's all good.
He's not even really doing TV anymore.
So I, I I'm not surprised you don't know him.
It's all good. Rich GAT Rich Gatham was a
quarterback who can run, who could throw and who bounced
around early. And I just want you to pull up
the names or the teams that he played.
I know he was on the Raiders at the end.
Obviously, then that's going to lead to my point.
So Vikings, Chiefs, Vikings, right.
No, keep going. Was that it?
Chiefs, Washington or Vikings? Washington.
Chiefs, Oakland. Yeah, when they were still in
Oakland. OK.
How many years take out the Raiders in that equation, right.
How many years for those other three teams you mentioned, how
many years of that encompass 8910?
Something like that played a long time, 10.
Yeah, OK. 10 years Now this is also cherry picking an example
to the contrary because there's a lot of examples that aren't as
rewarding as as Rich Cannon. 10 years, A very transient, very
nomadic NFL quarterback existence bouncing around,
Couldn't stick a little start here, a little back up there
trying to grind. Like if you look at that, it's
not like he started all those years.
He really was a backup in a lot of those situations.
He goes to the Raiders and I believe in 9019.
Hold on. No, no, no.
I believe Rich Gannon in 2002 was the league MVP.
Can you verify that for me and then give me his stats in O2
with the then Oakland Raiders? I know he won the MVP.
I thought it was O2 and I'm pretty sure he was like 37 or 38
years old as you look for that. He was definitely old pulling it
up. Let's see, I don't have his age.
OK, well let's see. He was born in 1965.
S in 2002 he would have been what is that, 3780?
59537 like I said, yeah, 3738 right and and what were you when
did he win the MVP? Was it O2?
I want to make sure that I'm on there.
It gets lost to them in the playoffs and I'm pretty sure it
was O2 either way, he won the by the way, just the best way to do
this. Proreference.com not now it's
it's all good. I'm I'm I'm in the neighborhood
enough go to proreference.com. You'll see the age you'll see
the team. And if you go to the far right,
it'll have awards like, you know, MVP Pro Bowl and then
anything in bowl led the league, all that stuff.
So let so as I finish my thought, if you could find it,
let me just finish my thought. Rich Gannon while he bounced
around and again, very transient couldn't stick.
No, no, no traction. The reason why Rich Gannon was
able to pop and win the NB. Raiders at that point, Porter
was there. They had a good run game, they
had a good defense and they lost in the Super Bowl, right?
So there's a reason why somebody like Rich Gannon was doing TV
for CBS for a long time, because he was a a film guy.
He was in the trenches. His intellect was through the
roof there. There's a reason why Rich Gannon
kept getting start chances around the NFL, and that seems
to be counter to what Kyler Murray is.
Doesn't seem like he loves watching film.
You know, if it doesn't work out, wherever he goes next,
because he's still pretty young, he'll get one more shot.
But he's not. If this doesn't pick up soon,
he's not going to be playing football at the age of 37 like
Rich was, and he's certainly not going to win the MVP at the age
of 37 or 38 like Rich Gannon did.
I can promise you that. So. 2002 MVP, 67% completion
percentage, 26 touchdowns, 4700 yards and.
Also a runner. Rich Gannon could beat you with
his wheels too. Rich was a very good athlete.
So ideally you try to find somebody like that.
Now, I'll give you an example of somebody who wasn't quite as
talented but at a a kind of similar trajectory.
That's Ryan Fitzpatrick, who was rented out of Harvard and
started in camp with the Bengals, if I recollect.
Yeah, I think it was the Bengals, Right.
And then obviously, the Bills wound up giving him some money,
didn't work out, bounced around a little bit and wound up coming
to The Jets. And even though The Jets didn't
make the playoffs that year in 2015 with Todd Bowles, he broke
Vinnie's touchdown records, you know, for season.
And he was a really good player because he was smart and because
he loved film. And there's a reason why he's on
prime now doing TV commentary talking about the NFL because he
is a student of the game. Kyler Murray doesn't seem to be
that incredibly problematic now. So, all right, well, you know,
if if you don't want to trade for Kyler Murray and the way
that I would if you missed it, very brief reset because I want
to get to Kirk Cousins as well for some of these other teams.
The way that you do that is you entice the Cardinals to trade
him by giving you a draft pick. Yo, Arizona.
Yeah, it's Boojie. What's going on, man?
Hey, we'll take Kyler off your hands.
Yeah, well, 50 million next year.
We could absorb it. We got plenty of money.
We're good. We need a third round pick to
make it happen. You've got to give us a decent
draft pick, otherwise we're not interested.
Hey, we can't give you a draft pick.
Click. All right, go figure out your
finances yourself. Have fun.
You're not going to do it like you're going to have to release
him and then you're going to have to spread the cap over a
couple of years that I and by the way, I do think he's going
to be released. I don't think anybody's going to
trade for him, but only because The Jets have all that money.
It's at least interesting enough to give the Cardinals something
to think about. You know, and to me, you know,
you think about like the the framework of a deal, the art of
a deal, getting people to think and then eventually do something
that they might not be inclined to do.
You've just got to be ultra creative.
And the easy thing is to sit around and wait for somebody to
get cut. I mean, anybody could do that.
I could do that. All right, you got cut.
Now pick them up, get better and minimum.
All right, sure, that's easy. Put them in there.
We've got a quarterback. But I think the more proactive,
more compelling way to attack any of the any of these moves is
to be a forward thinker. And I wonder if Mooji or anybody
else is thinking about that. Now I'm going to give you
another name, and every time I hear it, I'm like God, because
it just represents blah, all right?
It's Kirk Cousins. Now.
Kirk Cousins to me would be on the cheap, pretty, and I hate to
say it because I don't want to watch Kirk Cousins play football
this year. To me, he would be a perfect get
for The Jets. Now, maybe not more than Tanner
McGee because there's upside and he's cheap, all right.
But if you get Tanner McGee and he can't play, even though he
looks like he could play with the Eagles.
But then again, that's the Eagles and we're talking about
The Jets, you know, or trade for Mac Jones, which I'd also be
very amenable to. Gino doesn't do it for me.
Tua doesn't do it to it in cold weather. 2 with that weak pop
gun arm. No thank you, Mariota.
He's going to be on the table because he's going to be cheap
and he's a good veteran like Kirk Cousins.
But at least the cell job with Kirk Cousins would be this from
a Jets point of view. Not for the Vikings maybe, but I
don't think the I think the Viking, I think the Miami
Dolphins are thinking more bold. Maybe for the Browns to help
Shidor Sanders out a little bit, but really for The Jets is
because of the bare minimum, you know that Kirk Cousins is going
to raise the floor and you know, is he going to raise it by 7 or
eight wins? No.
Are The Jets going to be a playoff team?
No. I mean, unless they had this
ridiculous all time draft and everybody pops whatever and like
everything they do in free agency is magic.
And who knows? But the likelihood of that
happening, not very high. But what Kirk Cousins does and
they are in they are in dire need of this.
They sorely need this. They just need an adult to come
into the building, understand the playbook, which you'll do in
a minute, be able to express that to the teammates, see like
1 to his teammates. One thing, it's one thing to
have really good coaching, but the most effective leadership
comes from within. You know, that's why a guy like
Ryan Fitzpatrick, who I mentioned before, proved to be a
very viable quarterback around the NFL and and guarded respect
everywhere he went because number 1, he knew the playbook
inside and out and, and, and and the guys knew that.
And you know, he wasn't afraid to put his pants down and and
take a hit and, you know, first down, get absolutely crushed by
a linebacker, a safety coming up in the box.
And that resonates with with guys.
All right, it does. There's an energy there.
Now Kirk has a different energy. He's not going to run around
like that. Can't move at all really.
And in a lot of ways he's more prototypical for Frank Ryan, who
wants that big body pocket passer.
So there's a fit scheme wise and the moment, especially if The
Jets were to draft like Makai Lemon 16 or another receiver,
16-GO defensive 2 or even defensive, they trade out of the
two spot. They're going defense with that
first pick no matter what. Book it that's done.
And then, you know, 16, they could go receiver if you have
Kirk Cousins on the practice field daily, right, with Garrett
Wilson, who's the pro's pro anyway.
I mean, think about what he's done with the mess of
quarterback play that he's been subjected to.
What a shame. I mean, could you get the guy
quarterback? Jeez, what would his numbers be
if he actually had somebody who could throw the ball right?
But if you have a veteran, a stable force like Kirk and it's
Garrett and it's breeze hole who will definitely be back and it's
a young rookie drafted inside the top 20 and it's, you know,
Mitchell who they who they brought in.
You know, there there's, there's, there's there's ways to
look at this and say, OK, now we can at least at least get a
little momentum and at least get the wheels turning a little bit
to go from a laughingstock and an absolute joke, all right to
at least a representative team and a functional locker room and
A and a building that is healthier and more energized and
more buttoned up and more intelligent and all those
things. So as much again, I'm not going
to be excited like I was when The Jets got at Rogers.
I mean that was that was different.
Now that was euphoria. Even though it didn't work out.
I would understand and I would accept Kirk Cousins and you know
I'd be excited about will this Murray only if you get some
trade value back where you get him for a couple of mil on the
veteran cheap right Cousins. I just explained Mariota's in
play. Want no part of to not really
down with a Geno reunion. Davis Mills OK, OK, kind of
interested. Mac Jones, I would trade for him
depending upon what the Niners want back.
And I've already touched on Tana McGee.
Armand is amazing. What's up, Armand, would you
trade a second round pick for Tana McGee?
No way. I'm not giving up a second round
pick. Zach Rosenblatt put out an
article that a quarterback like McGee that The Jets would have
to trade for will cost a premium pick.
I'm not giving up a second round pick.
What? Why would you do that?
No, you don't do that. I mean, you want to tell me it
becomes a conditional second round pick that starts as a You
probably don't get him as a fourth round or so.
It might have to be 1/3, and I don't think The Jets have a
third round there this year. So they have to tap into some
other stuff and Mooji can make that happen.
I'm not worried about that. Like logistically and the
dynamics of of making that happen.
He'll figure it out. Would I give up a third that
becomes a 2 with performance or playing time?
Yeah, I'd be open to that, to that.
Sure, there's intrigue with Tana McGee, but like just to give up
a set the top of the second round pick with no built in, you
know, benchmarks or no way, I'm not doing that now.
I'm not taking a shot at Zack's reporting.
I'm just saying I wouldn't do it.
No, no. And if other teams are willing
to do that, well, then good for them.
There's also a part of me that wants to say, I'm going to stop
short of saying this, but wants to kind of say, man, if The Jets
value him enough where they would do that, maybe I've got to
dial back the resistance there. That just seems inordinately
high for somebody who hasn't done a whole lot.
Second round pick, man, Come on. All right, let me get let me get
Smith Jones, 6898. All right, Tennessee Titans fan
here. What about another?
What about another trade? Brandon Will Levis for some
competition to quarterback? His days in Tennessee are over.
All right, let me ask you this. I know that they're over.
He was in. He was a very appealing
prospect. I watched him in Kentucky a few
times. He's got some energies.
He's always got a little bit of, I don't know, he's got a little
Jackson dart there. I don't know.
It's just the way he looks or the way he presents himself.
But I know he's got a big arm. I know he's a pretty good
athlete. Didn't work, went sideways.
Yeah, I mean, I guess, but I've got to have something more
stable. Like I can't have Will Levis and
I and Tyrod Taylor and then some other early ish, you know, draft
dart kind of hit the board and say, all right, let's make that
our quarterback room. Because where are you really
going from that? If, if, if you were to do you
like, you've got to structure this in a way that makes sense
where if you draft somebody's getting reps like you got at
least look at that. And if you were to trade for
Will Levis and then draft somebody and then have somebody
like Tyrod Taylor, you have to have a veteran there because you
can't have three kids or three. You know, Levis wasn't done a
damn thing in the NFLI Know we started a lot, but and I, I saw
him in person. I, I did a trip The Jets Titans
and The Jets won that game. It was actually pretty cool.
And you just can't have like Levis and I don't know, Brady
Cook and then drafting somebody that's that's not going to work
out. J Rod, are you into I think that
I know the answer already here, everybody.
BT Unleashed fam, are you into the WBC at all?
WBC No. Not, not, won't be I.
Mean, I can't. I mean, I can tell you I'm
definitely going to be watching this year, OK?
Yeah. I mean, I would not be.
I got some homework to do. I got some research.
I'm going to be locked in. Yeah.
Have you? Ever watched before?
No, I. Don't believe.
I mean, not one pitch with my brother potentially back in the
day. Yeah, your brother.
Played baseball, right? Yeah.
Yeah, he played in high school. Little, I mean JV in high
school, I think. Yeah, senior year.
I got you. JV is a senior.
That's a rough look right there. I.
Play, though, I'm trying to think.
I got you. I got you.
So the I'm excited for it. I'm excited.
I'm not going over the top nuts here.
I'm excited for it. I was messing around with a
potential line up here. So it's starting up.
Obviously. I think it starts tomorrow.
Some teams play tomorrow. I know we play Brazil Friday
night at 8 and that's going to be on Fox.
It's national game. And obviously if you're a Yankee
fan, Judge the captain. I saw the video yesterday, Judge
talking to the team. Pretty cool.
I've got a little lineup for you here.
Yeah. Listen, I don't know what
they're going to do. It's going to what they're going
to do. It's going to be some variation
of this, you would imagine. How about how about we got Witt
playing short Batten first, Schwarber batting second play in
DH, Aaron judging the three spot play in right field, Bryce
Harper first Batten 4th, Cal roller.
You can even flip that if you want to do that.
Cal roller behind the plate batting 5.
You got the Roman Anthony, who's a stud left field batting 6,
Bregman in the seven hole playing third P Crow Armstrong
center field batting 8 and then Bryce Tarang second base bat
9th. Now the only thing, and I get
it, I do this is not me knocking them.
It's not pushback. But this is kind of one of the
issues with the WBC and we should handle Brazil fairly
easily. And you know, I'm I'm hoping for
I'm hoping for the hole. I want to I want to see I want
to see us win this. Yes, ma'am.
Usually I kind of jump in just to watch all the great players.
I I love watch. I said this yesterday.
I'm not going to go much into, but I love watching the DRI,
love watching Puerto Rico. I love watching Japan.
All the Japanese players seem to have the same approach, like
very similar stances and you know, they almost look like
they're a lot of the same. I don't think they're a carbon
copy of each other. The problem though, now we got
schemes. You got Logan Webb, you got Ryan
Yarborough and you got school. But school is only making the
one start and that's going to be early.
I don't know if he's pitching against Brazil, but like United
States advances, he's checking out.
He's going back down to Lakeland to get with the Tigers, which I
get. I understand that.
You know, he's got a lot of money coming his way.
He won his arbitration 30 something, $1,000,000.
How offensive was that? He was asking for 32 and the
Tiger said, no, we'll give you 19 for Tirich school.
I mean, I mean, how dumb are you?
If anything, you got to bite the bullet.
You got to give him a lot more than that to at least give
yourself a chance to. And they're not going to resign
him. He's not.
He's going to be with the Dodgers, the Yankees, the Mets
or the field. I think the Phillies will make a
big move as well. And Toronto maybe like those are
the five teams. But he's going to leave Detroit.
And now you have to think he's definitely going to leave
because the way these arbitration cases go, you know,
you don't really fixate on what you do.
Well, as crazy as this sounds, you sit down, you got the
arbiter, you know, you got school bull, you got his Rep,
you got the Tigers, blah, blah, blah.
And then the arbiter sitting there and you're hearing both
sides. We deserve this, we want this.
He's done this, of course. Come on then, you got the
tigers, The tigers actually in their prison and this, it's
just, it's unfortunate and people hate arbitration for this
reason. You are at a table, almost like
a deposition. You're at a table and you're
sitting there and you're listening to your employer
telling the orbiter, and you by extension, why you don't deserve
the money you're asking for because of your deficiencies.
What deficiencies could they possibly illuminate with Tarek
School? Can somebody tell me that what
they are? What?
You're too young. You haven't proven it yet.
You got an injury history. He's healthy as a horse.
Knock on wood, he's a stud back-to-back.
Cy Youngs, one of the most dot like when you watch Tarek school
pitch. And I don't want to be a
prisoner of the moment here, but, you know, I know my
baseball history. I mean, is it really that
different? And I don't mean the
presentation or the stature or the body type or the wind up.
I'm talking about the results when you watch school ball
pitch, right? Is it really that different than
watching Randy Johnson pitch or Pedro pitch?
Is it or young Clayton Kershaw, who's also on Team USA was very
cool? The answer is no.
Or a young Clemens or, you know, a young good in, you know, I
didn't see pitch a Seaver pitch, but I mean any, any luminary,
Bob Gibson, Tom Seaver, Walter Johnson, Cy Young, like what
this dude is doing, what he's cooking up.
He's cooking up that. So to sit in a room like that
would infuriate me to the point where, and I understand it's the
process and I understand, you know, pre ARB and ARB and
eligible for this and here you go, all right, you know,
eligible for free agency this year.
Like I know how it works and that's the way it was
collectively bargained. And until it changes, you got to
play by the rules. But there are certain
exceptions, man. Like the Tigers really should
have came in and said, all right, you want 32, start at 25
and start at 25. At least you're not pissing them
off. Because if he, I don't, I don't
know if he loves Detroit. I, I don't know, I don't know
how we've used their team long term.
You know, they did a couple of little things during the
offseason, but it's not like they went out and just, you
know, manned up and said, all right, they're to themselves,
all right. There's a good chance that, you
know, if we don't get to a World Series or at least get to the
American League Championship Series, he's going to start
processing his legacy, all right?
Because you know, he's going to get paid.
What's he going to get, 4550 a year, 400 million, What's he
going to get right? I know Cohen's coming.
I like to say that. I'd like to say that Hal's
coming. I don't really think he is.
I know the Dodgers are coming with that.
I believe the Phillies would come with that.
So he's at a point now where, all right, he won it.
So he's making 30 million this year.
He's made decent money up until this point.
But now he's got to start looking ahead and saying, all
right, where am I going to win? Because that is now a bribe, a
byproduct of all the conversations.
And it's sad I didn't hear the word legacy once in my lifetime
growing up and I I don't even really know the origin of it,
quite frankly. Like I wasn't walking around as
a kid, you know, in the street or in the schoolyard.
Hey, Parcells doesn't win another one.
No, it can't be. It can't be considered an all
time great, You know, just didn't think that way.
I didn't I didn't even think like, you know, my all time
favorite player is Don Mattingly in any sport, all time by a
mile, Donnie Baseball forever. I wasn't watching him in 84 with
the bad in title and 85 with the MVP and 86 when he finished
second to Clemens and the MVP got hosed and all the things he
did in his five or six year window where he was basically a
basically a modern stand mutual. I was watching him in awe.
I wasn't watching him saying, oh God, it Donnie doesn't get to
the there was no wild card back then until when he finally made
it 95 and hit 417 against Seattle.
I wasn't sitting there once. It never once permeated my
thought or my conversations. God, if Donny doesn't get to the
playoffs here, or if Donny doesn't win a World Series, he
can never be looked at before he got hurt as a Mantle or a Gehrig
or a Ruth or a DiMaggio or a Yogi or any of those other great
luminaries. I just didn't look at it that
way. I didn't.
And it's, it's really, it's become very lazy is what it's
become. I don't know where it started.
I've got a few. I've got a few guesses.
I definitely think the LeBron MJ thing is huge.
That's that. There's no question about that
now it's also the easiest conversation to have MJ by a
mile. Next topic I think maybe not
maybe I also think it's funny we hit a little bit of golf
yesterday and I told you you're gonna get a lot of good golf
coverage. I don't I don't mean the the
fairly the fairly benign week to week tournaments.
I'm talking about masters time, Open Championship, U.S.
Open, Ryder Cup. You're getting it on this
channel. I love golf, I play golf, I
stink, but I I know golf and I consume golf.
I love golf, right, So you definitely to get that.
But and I remember when Tiger was just obliterating the record
book you started getting, you know, maybe it was maybe it was
even before LeBron, now that I think about it, and it's not
LeBron, even though I, you know, I, I shaved LeBron here and
there for for different reasons. It's not Lebron's fault that he
didn't start the GOAT conversation.
I don't I don't know who the hell started it.
But now that I traced back, I mean, think about when Tiger was
just reducing, you know, Augusta and all these various venues
across the world, just knocking them to its knees and just, you
know, shooting -15 and obliterating a field that had
David Duvall and, and obviously Mickelson and DJ Singh and Jimmy
Furyk and all these great golfers back then.
You did maybe the origin was Jack and and Tiger Woods because
we weren't talking about Michael and LeBron back in in the late
90s because LeBron was still in high school in the late 90s.
So maybe that's what it is. But that's kind of become part
of it as well. And I don't know to what extent.
I don't know to what degree these athletes really factor in
their ability to eventually win a championship.
I I don't, I don't know, but I could promise you this that it's
more than it ever was. You know what I mean?
J Rod So you're a lot younger than me and your world, your
world really has never been without these these legacies and
these conversations. That's all you kind of know,
right? I mean.
At least for me, yeah, Like the whole sports world thing, it's
less surrounded by the actual moments themselves and more
about like the hypotheticals of will this player do this?
Will they reach this peak rather than really appreciating, OK,
what are they doing now and how does that reflect upon other
people rather than this comparison of what they haven't
done compared to what people in the past have done?
Also real. Quick, Yeah.
My brother just freaked out at me on the phone.
He was on varsity, all right? He was on varsity, yeah.
You go as a. Senior.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, All right, yeah.
He he was on JV as a sophomore, junior, senior, he was on.
Varsity. Yeah.
I mean, how do you not know that?
Come on, Jay. You got to represent your.
Come on man. I know, yeah.
I mean. That listen there's and I'm not
listen baseball's hard I mean, if anybody knows that it's me.
Baseball is hard to play hard to be great at baseball.
It's very hard to be consistent of baseball, but at the risk of
sounding like that guy, I mean, if you're, I don't even know if
you're allowed on JV as a senior and if you are a senior and
you're on JV, that's a rough look, man.
I mean, it's probably time to pack it up and do something.
Join the band, you know, go have some fun, enjoy senior week, you
know, go and visit colleges like, but go on spring break,
you know, did you go on spring break when you were in high?
Not in high school, no COVID. Yeah, no, my senior year I did
nothing. I didn't do that.
I mean so your. Senior year, you learned visual
virtually the entire year. Yeah.
And So what was? Crazy is for my school this wow
I don't know if the other grades did this.
My seniors, all our classes were asynchronous.
We didn't even do zoom learning. We jump.
We did like all asynchronous classes.
So they would like send you for the week what like quizzes or
what assignments you had to do for the week.
You just had to finish it by the end of the week and that was it.
What you didn't? Speak to a teacher Once you
didn't speak to another student, you literally filled out
assignments. Sentiment done.
That is, that is depressing. That's that's horrible, man.
Did you have a senior prom? No, I didn't.
Even have a graduation we we, we drove through we drove through
in a car I stood on us I mean, and it was a little fun looking
back on it, you know, just because it was different.
But yeah, my mom, my dad, my brother, maybe my dog.
We we were in the car. We.
Drove. Up to the stage, I got out, you
know, I probably had like my sneakers on or whatever.
Had like the gown on, took the picture, got back in the car,
left that. Is I know you, you made the you
made the most of it, man. Nothing you could do.
But that is utterly depressing. So we do have something in
common here, J Rod, right? Yeah.
So you you didn't go to your prom because you didn't have one
because COVID wiped it out. I didn't go to my prom because I
was banned for my prom. What'd you do?
Yeah, it's a story for another day.
You're gonna have to say that. That's say that one.
I'm very curious that's. True.
Now I went to some other problems because the the
Catholic school girls like I got asked to go to a few of their
problems. Sure I was not allowed to go to
my prom. Oh.
Man, that's whatever, man. I.
Went to the after parties. Who cares?
Yeah. Wait, I'm seeing some.
I'm seeing that. Yeah.
Breaking news, Breece Hall got a franchise tag.
Franchise. OK, that's what I thought.
Yeah, well, you couldn't wait to do that.
Let me hear that again. Let's go.
It's not. A great sound.
That's the thing, you can't really.
Hear it dude, that's a no. Wait, give me both.
Boom boom, back-to-back. Ready.
Here's the first It's like we eat stone cold.
That's it 100% right. There you go good.
All right, so Breeze gets the the franchise, not the
transition. And that's what I surmised.
I just did that 10 minutes ago. And now it'll have until July to
figure this out. So it's $14.1 million, but
they're going to have to carry that on the books for the cap
until they resolve it. So all right, extend the window,
no doubt. Never doubt Breeze would be
back. He is good for Breeze and good
for The Jets. All right, so let let me
investigate something else here. So now how did you go and visit
colleges so. So, yeah, that was what was
strange is it was such a weird period where like, you know, the
true 'cause I still went to Syracuse on time.
We still had a couple in person classes when I was there later
2020. And then I visited colleges that
time right before COVID in that like September to November
period of 2019. So that was kind of when I, you
know, visit colleges, then whatever, February, March, you
know that, yeah, June, July came along.
But then of August, we were kind of, you know, it was a little
better. Went back to school.
Let me ask you this. So I I know how you got the work
and yet you could do it all in one day and then just chill.
Or you could just, you know, spread it out, which is probably
what you did. But what did you do every day?
So you're obviously your parents home.
Did you ever see a friend? Oh, yeah, Yeah.
So. I'm like a small town kid, so
it's like it really, you know, they were like.
Screw COVID with the whatever we want.
Exactly. Like me and my, I mean, you
know, me and my boys kind of just chilled.
Like obviously I think, you know, for that first week, we, I
think my friend might have been the first dude in America who
had COVID. It was like that first week.
Yeah. It was like that first week of
March and this dude was out. Did you ever get it?
Yeah, yeah, couple, couple times, but never symptomatic.
Yeah. Yeah, me too, basically, you
know, go ahead. Did you have something else,
guys? Because I'm one of those guys.
So I mean, what we would do all day, I mean, play video games,
hang out, you know, have like a bonfire, whatever else.
Oh, OK. See, we were still.
I feel like, you know, part not partying per SE.
No, no, I six or seven understood.
But yeah, I mean, you, you still had a good time.
Definitely a little. Too young to party, even though
back in my day we, you know, party very, very, very early.
I I joke around. We talk about golf.
The first time I was on a golf course was when we jumped the
fence and had a beer on the gring.
Oh, my gosh. Your story.
Yeah, man, I'm not going to tell you how old I was.
We were young. I couldn't have.
I remember going through that and and obviously, you know,
going through my kids were young, but they weren't in full
blown school yet. They were young, so a little bit
easier. And in a lot of ways, I don't
want this to sound the wrong way.
Like like we, I almost embraced it in a way because, you know, I
was home. So I'm doing the show from home.
Me and Tiki never stopped doing our show.
We had it was ATV component. So we had the cameras in here.
We were on CBS Sports Network and there was just nothing to
talk about, right? And it was brutal.
But we figured it out because me and Tik were very tight and we
talked, talked about the world a lot and tried to find some
interesting like Evergreen stuff like a lot of LeBron and you
know, Kobe and Jack and Tiger and stuff like that.
But well, I remember what we did.
We moved into our home in December of 2018.
So this is obviously 2020. And let's see.
So that would have been my little guy was he was, he had
just turned 5 and my daughter was still 3.
So I remember like that first week, this is true story in our
on our first floor in toward the back, we've got a, a pretty good
sized playroom, right? And like my wife did a great
job. So like even before COVID, she
put up like, you know, the alphabet, like the letters and
like some basic mathematics, radical stuff and like the days
of the week, the months of the year.
And then of course, you know, then the daddy took over and
went a little next level because my Teek and I were on in the
afternoon. We were doing the afternoon show
across the country, right? So my mornings were free and I
would go all right, time for class, kiddos, let's go.
And we had their little desks in there.
And I would now, I don't really know if they were understanding
it very much, but I'm doing like antonyms and homonyms and
synonyms and like I'm going deep dive, man.
And I'm doing, I remember I found like 5 and 6 syllable
words. Actually, this another quick
aside. This is how I taught my, my kids
about words and how to spell, how to sound it out.
I would give me circumstantial. All right, So something like
that, like circumstantial 4. I would say, all right, how many
syllables in circumstantial before I'd ask him to spell, to
spell it, I'd say how many syllables and the little voices
and I, we would clap it out circumstantial, you know, and,
and that's kind of so I'm doing all this teaching and then I
like get the map because I love geography and I'm, I'm hitting
the States and I'm trying to get, you know, North America,
South America, Asia, Africa, Antarctica.
There we go Australia. Like I'm doing the, I'm doing
everything and I'm like, this is phenom.
I'm even doing painting with them.
Right. Dude, after one week, I had
literally nothing else to teach. No, at that point, when Covid's
first hitting, you don't know how long you're going to be
isolated. You get, you know, and they were
still young and we didn't really know anybody in town yet, So,
and it was still chilly out. It was like March.
So it was a good time to really, as a family, just really
everyday movies and games. And they were putting the
doctor. I would be the patient.
They'd get dressed up in the doctor's gear after a week.
I'm like, I'm out of freak. I I got nothing else.
I've just told you everything that I know in the world.
I got nothing else. We got to figure this shit out
here, man. That's.
Too funny, man. You know what's crazy?
I know you don't know this. So the the Big East tournament,
you can look this up. Not now.
The video is as ominous and as jarring and and I've my real
time feel when this was going on was unlike anything that I ever
felt right. So I think about say if just
give me a full screen for a second.
So say if WFAN was here and the Garden was here, right?
So this is the fan, I would park my car WFAN and then I would
jump on the one or the 9 train and I would just take it to the
Garden when I had St. John's games.
And then obviously after the game, I would get back on the
train, take it 3-4 stops, walk out, get my car, drive home to
New Jersey, right? So I take the train now.
I remember now things are starting.
That was after Rudy Gobert touched the microphones.
I know you know that, right? And everybody's like, he was
mocking it and everybody's like, what is this COVID nonsense?
And really, you know, anyway, for some stupid reason, Saint
John, that's not Saint John's fault.
The Big East, what you want to talk about a void of leadership.
I could not believe that they did this.
We have a game and they're playing.
I think they were playing Creighton, right?
Little tidbit, Saint John's was the Saint John's was the last
team to play, the last team to play in the entire country.
So me and Mink get there early and the way they and I remember
leaving and my wife's like, they're really, they're really
going to play. And I'm like, yeah, they're
going to play. And I'm just, you know, me, I'm,
I'm a minimalist in terms of worry.
I'm like, we're fine, we're good.
But yeah, of course we're going to play, right.
They they won the day before and I'm thinking maybe we'll make a
run, maybe we'll make the tournament.
So me and they get there early and we get advised that I think
each school was given 150 tickets, I think for parents and
the band, something like that. So me and Minka courtside at the
Big East tournament and I remember before the game, you
know, at at the biggest, it's a mass of operations you can
imagine TV's media, media guides every everything right, press
conference set up and I and I'm walking to get some notes for
the St. John's I think again, I think it
was Creighton, St. John's, Creighton.
And I'm watching, I guess ESPN was on and I see now flashing on
the screen SAA, the remainder of the ACC tournament cancelled,
remainder of the SEC cancelled, Big 10 cancelled, Big 12
cancelled. I'm like, I'm like, why are we
like, all right now? It's like now it's a little
weird. And I go out and I sit down.
It's probably about 2530 minutes before the game.
And I look up in the stands and this is guaranteed a picture
that you could find on Google. The St.
John's mascot is basically up in the upper deck, sitting by
himself in full regalia. Full.
Yep, it was the first thing you look up St.
John's mascot, and then Covid's the first word that comes up.
And I. Remember looking up at that
right? I'm like, wow, wow.
This is, I'm going to use the word ominous again.
This is really ominous. Can I throw that picture up?
Oh, yeah. I'd love to see.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
Roll it up there, bro. You get it up there.
It's all good. And I remember looking around
and it's just this 20,000 seat venue, You know, I love the
garden. It's massive, cavernous now that
I think I'm not even sure if the band was there may have just
been parents and immediate family of the players who were
playing that game. And we start the pregame show
and Mink goes, all right. And we it's a sponsored element
and it's the keys to the game. All right, coming up, you know,
coming up now BT is me, BT with his and he always does this with
his hand. BT with his keys to the game,
right? I'm like God, Mink.
And I was in such a bad mood and I said something like, listen,
I, I just crushed the conference.
I'm like, you want the keys to the game?
Sure. I don't even know why we're
here. And I just eviscerated.
Like it was not even as a key number one, don't get hurt key
#2 score more points. It was literally, I just want to
get out of here, right? They play the first half and
Saint John every other game in the country.
Mountain West, Whack, Mack, NEC, Sunbelt, everything canceled.
For some idiotic reason. The Big East is still playing
and I love the Big East, but it was so dumb, right?
And we go to halftime. St.
John's is winning. So I joke around, St.
John's won the national championship that year because
they were the last team with the lead, right?
So we go to, I go to get a cup of coffee or just to see what
the hell is going on. And I go back and it's like the
commissioner and other people that and they're all converged.
They're like, we're going to can't, the games can't.
So they actually played the first half of the game.
By the way, did you find the picture?
Can you get it up there yet or no?
Yeah, look now. It's not really, it's OK, not
very high quality, but it's OK. Though just a depressing shot
and I remember walk and I still wasn't nervous or afraid.
I'm like, I was actually pissed. I'm like St.
John's was playing well, but I knew you had to cancel the rest
of it. So anyway, Long story short, now
I got to get on the train to go to get my car to get home and I
was on I'm, I'm walking down the stairs to go on the 1:00 train
at the and there was one person that I passed.
Nobody was on the trains. It was a ghost town dude, which
was even more scary. The person that I passed, older
woman, whatever, she went like this, like she actually, it just
put me on the full screen because I'm walking up there.
I smile at her. I'm trying to be nice and
cordial to everybody, especially the elderly and women.
Whatever she walked as I walked by.
She she goes like she like, she just moves away from me.
I'm like, wow, man, this is so I get home and now it's full blown
like things are going on, but I'm still not worried.
That was maybe a Thursday. If I, if I recollect, I think it
was a Thursday. So the next day I, I wake up,
you know, I'm like, alright. And I'm going in the, I'm
leaving the house and my wife goes where you going?
I don't go to work out. You know, I, I've since built
out my, my basement where I work out my basement, but I belong to
a gym like 2 miles from home. I'm going to work out.
We I'm going, which I, you know, I did at that point, probably 3
* a week, maybe 4. She's like, you're not going to
work out. I'm like, yeah, yeah.
She's like, you're not going to work out.
You can't leave the house. And I'm like, probably, right.
I know it's not. I should say no, it's nothing.
I'm not a doctor, but I'm like, I don't think it's anything.
But I got to respect their wishes on this because nobody
really knows what's going, what's going to happen here.
And I didn't work out. And I remember the first time,
I'm sure some of you did this, too.
We ordered pizza and they would leave it on the steps.
I don't know if you dealt OK And my wife would take the pizza and
put it in the oven to even though it was piping hot to kill
any existing germs that you might be on the I'm sure we did.
Yeah, I'm sure we had something similar to that.
Like where we someone go grocery shopping, we wipe down the blue
some crazy nonsense, man. I mean, I don't even know what
to say. I had.
Nothing to say 1A. Different time.
What happened there? Is that all right?
No, thank you, Willie. I've actually done a couple of
games on TVI haven't done them in a while.
I was doing some stuff for CBS Sports Network, like I did some
Seton Hall games, St. John's.
I did the where was that? The Conference USA down, down at
Southern Miss, which was a great environment.
Did some games down in Annapolis, which was great to go
on Navy's campus. Some other games I'm forgetting
too. Couple of Ivy games.
Whatever. I did some college baseball TV
for a little bit, but no, I follow St.
John's baseball like I follow Marist and and you know, matter
of fact, one time the head of this is pretty cool.
This is probably about four years ago.
So he was probably 7. And during the summer, I think
it was like Mike Anderson's second year or maybe even his
first year. And they had like a, a private
practice for season ticket holders and the, and the big
money boosters. And it was during the summer.
So I, I took my son and you know, he met all the players and
like Posh and Shamari Pons and those guys.
If you remember that team and the baseball field was open and
which I played on when I was in marriage.
We, we played them once. We lost 2 to one and the gate
was open. I let him run around the bases.
They were sitting in the dugout, pretended he was walking up the
home plate. They got a good team.
I mean, every year they have guys drafted very, very strong,
Strong Northeast baseball team. All right, Jay, Ron, anything
else we got to get to before we bounce?
Let every up slap it up there. Special guest tomorrow.
This is going to be a blast. Can't wait to get my buddy on
the show. My good buddy.
There he is. Yep.
Now a lot of times you hear this a lot.
Oh my, you're going to hear somebody like doing a show and
introducing my good friend, my good buddy.
And then they they barely know the guy like they they might,
they might have his phone number.
They might text them once in a while.
When I say that I'm I'm legitimately friends with
Michael Ki mean it. I've known him for 20 something
years. We worked at 10:50 together
forever. I was at his wedding.
He couldn't come to mind because the Yankees were still were in
the playoffs there. And it's just a great guy, you
know, him and all's quirks, him and all's his, his, his
brilliance with the Yankees. We're gonna have a fun, fun
conversation. And it's funny, one thing I
remember about Mike, I don't know why this stands out.
Remember, I was telling you the story the other day about when I
ruptured my Achilles. Yeah.
Yeah, a Rod. Playing hoops in the Urban Men
professional years ago. My dad with with the part of the
story that I didn't tell you, which is actually pretty funny.
I lived in a four story walk up, OK on the Upper West Side, great
apartments. And it was one bedroom.
It wasn't even the studio. It was one bedroom.
Yeah, it was nice, dude.
It was a nice building right by Central Park.
It was awesome. Right.
And what? Street.
It was in the 80s, OK. That was beautiful.
Some friends who like lived in like that like 91st, 92nd and
Central Park area right I. Was right by Central Park West.
I'd ride my bike to 10:50, I would go along the West side
Highway and then come around. And yeah, so anyway, so the
problem was, and my dad said I didn't have a girlfriend.
I was wasn't married. And you know, my dad, you know,
being the awesome dad that he is, would come and pick me up
and like, well, first I went home and I stayed at my parents.
I missed work for like a week. I stayed at where I grew up.
So they, because I couldn't, couldn't, I mean, full had full
surgery. It's tough pain meds and you
know, getting up to go to the bathroom to eat a lot of stuff
going on. And my dad was like a rock star,
right? The same with my mom.
So when I moved, when it when I was deemed OK, maybe we could
get back, he drove me and he would still come and pick me up
and sometimes take me to rehab until I was at least functional.
Not then my station actually wound up sending and they
finally stepped up. They sent somebody to pick me up
and then I would go to rehab. And then I can get around the
crutches. But Long story short, I'll never
forget. And when I went back to my
apartment, I stayed in there for about a week.
Like I didn't, you know, I had people come and visit me, a lot
of friends and stuff, including my dad.
Always going to get food like, you know, go great Jewish delis
on the upper on the Upper West Side, the soup and Oh my God,
the knishes. I mean, it was phenomenal.
Actually, I didn't mind that I was getting I was generated on
hand and foot. All right.
So the way I got up the stairs, I'll never forget this.
I once my dad left because he carried them up like when he
left, I would take my crushes and I would throw them up a full
flight of stairs. Now, if you know anything about
a pre war building, it's not a modern building.
I mean it's literally over 100 years old and the staircases are
so deep and so high and also a little bit smaller in terms of
width because the human body was a little bit smaller back then
when they built these right. So I would Chuck these things
and I remember at the at the top of each staircase, there was a
wall, so there wasn't a lot of room.
So it's like throwing the freaking javelin.
I had to be freaking perfect because every time I even if I
got it on a perfect throw, most times it would ricochet off the
back wall and come flying down. Oh my God, dude, it was that's
dangerous. Wow, What I wasn't worried about
getting. Hurt I was.
Yeah, Jay. It was it, it was brutal.
So once I actually then I had to do it the second flight, then
the third flight, then the 4th flight.
And once I was, you know, lucky, lucky enough because it wasn't
skill, it was kind of luck to get him to stay up there.
Not just one, but two crutches. I couldn't walk up the stairs.
I would literally sit my ass on each stair hold with air, get me
on the full screen, sit my ass on the stairs right with the
take my hands and push my push myself up each stairs with my
back to the stairs going upwards backwards bro.
And then I remember I developed and I don't have many phobias.
Although as I'm getting older I noticed I'm a little less
reluctant to enjoy heights that I noticed that that's crept in a
little bit. Thank God no other real phobias
or fears. I that might be the first time
it crept in. I remember.
So now I'm still on crutches but I'm like the pains not searing.
I'm getting a little healthier when I'm finally going back to
work and my dad's not there. It's just me.
I had to do the opposite. I had to take my crutches and
fling them down the stairs, which was simple.
But then I had to go down the stairs.
And I remember, and I was hopping down on one foot.
I was doing it differently, right?
And I remember, like, looking at this very sizable, very
intimidating drop. And I'm like, I remember by
getting nervous, I'm like, I got to do four of these.
And, you know, eventually you kind of get a little bit used to
it. You suck it up and you move on.
But man, yeah, if you're going to rupture your Achilles, live
in a home or have an elevator. All right, dude, just about
tapped out for today. Is there any text that we need
to hit before we found what for sure chef they're got right?
Here the game day lineup got a oh dropped Whit, Junior, Harper,
Judge, Schwarber, Bregman, Raleigh, Anthony Buxton, Buxton.
Starting, Yep. OK, keep that up there.
Keep that up. OK, so skeins, skeins going to
pitch. I got you.
Skeins will pitch Friday against Brazil and then I would imagine
Scuba will go after that because he's only making the one start
that we talked about. So I had Wit first, all right,
That was the easy one. Got that.
I had Schwarber in the 2 hole. They put Bryce Harper, no issue
with that. I actually kind of like that
better. Judge three got it.
Schwarber behind Judge, All right, so they flipped that
there. I had Calrolie 50.
They got Bregman behind. Schwarber in the five hole and
then, all right, I had Bregman 7.
I had Cal Roll the five behind Bryce Harper in the four hole.
I guess I missed that. Yeah, I had Anthony in the six
hole playing left field. They got that and I had to Rang
batting 9th, playing second. I got that and I had Pete Crow,
Armstrong and center. I got no problem with Buxton
playing. There you go.
He's going to hit eighth. OK, I'm into it.
Looking forward to it. Could have a little bit of fun
with this. Hey, get this out there.
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Have a great day. Tomorrow is going to be awesome.
So I'll be on at 10 as always. Live at 10/10/15.
The great Michael K my my buddy Michael at 10:15 for at least
45. I might have to go to St.
John's tomorrow. I thought it was going to be
Thursday to shoot the show with Rick, but I got a text before.
It's probably going to be Wednesday, but it's not going to
be as early as it was last Wednesday, so I'll be able to do
more of a full show. Anyway, little story time today.
Bounced around a little COVID, a little crutches going upstairs,
a lot of football to start. If you just jumped in, I laid it
out for Kyler Murray and all the Kirk Cousins 2.
All the quarterbacks obviously talked about Breece.
We got confirmation today he got slapped with the franchise.
Not a surprise. We knew that was coming.
Now they'll work out the full time deal, but they're going to
have to carry that fairly. He's not going to sign $14
million a year, be lower than that, probably 12 or 13.
So it's a fairly exorbitant number at 14.1.
But he's exclusive property of The Jets.
With the transition, somebody can swoop it and try to sign
them. That can't happen now.
We knew he was staying put. If you didn't know that, I don't
know what to tell you. I've been telling you that for a
while. Mooji wanted it to happen, got
it done, good job. Now they want to hammer out that
long term deal, which I absolutely believe that they
will. Great confidence there.
We'll see if anybody else gets tagged.
I'm sure they will before the 4:00 PM deadline today.
Have a great rest of your Tuesday.
Like it, subscribe. All that stuff.
Catch you guys tomorrow. Peace.