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we go. 
What's going on? 

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Hopefully everybody's having a 
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Rod today I get in the car and I
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something that I I don't I was 
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morning, right. 
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before the show. 
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I don't know that I've ever 
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I'm looking forward to tomorrow 
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like that's also a little 
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you know, like the The Jets AFC 
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world like there's there's a 
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But but I wasn't in the middle 
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few times. 
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Man, I am so curious. 
We'll get to the Yankees. 

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Obvious. 
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well and, and not just for The 
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interesting what's happening 
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that I can't wait to see. 
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prices are so expensive like we 
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We talked, it's crazy to get in,
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resourcefulness of St. 
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West and and you know, even 
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they're able to infiltrate this 
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just in terms of sheer proximity
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going to big games and 
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in there that weren't so. 
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they're, they're, they're 
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dormancy that's that's 
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know, the greater part of the 
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traveling at this point of the 
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the Saint Johns fans are going 
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They're going to be so, so 
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to be loud, that's for sure. 
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really good. 
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I'm going to probably hit the 
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Team went down yesterday. 
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road today, Jay, right around 4 
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Are you driving down? 
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The, the team flew down 
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could have gone on the flight 
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really do nothing. 
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a 5 hour drive depending upon 
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John's and Duke and I'm sure 
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I'm not going to complain about 
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St. 
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legitimate chance to get to the 
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I think St. 
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I got into it a little bit 
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Saint John's a little met 
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Mets open up today at Citi 
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different look for these Mets no
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see wow of the you know, just I 
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lineup is going to be a little 
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chance to be just better, more 
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today. 
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the Yankees. 
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little bit. 
Listen, guys, I mean, come on. 

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I I understand that the whole 
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complain about. 
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stuff, you had actors, you had 
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out there throwing out the first
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here. 
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outside. 
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is because I love Netflix and 
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even Prime as and, and Peacock 
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basketball games that the Mets 
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Like I'm not getting the mindset
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fully OK with that because I'm 
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that I want my Yankees on yes, I
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Knicks on MSGI, want St. 
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conventional home for the Big 
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I want to watch the masters on 
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Like I don't want to have to 
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or three different remotes to go
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chat or whatever. 
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to be the kind of guy who just 
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I came home, it was a little 
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I was outside for a while 
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We had baseball practice from 
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that I coached one of them. 
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same field, my daughter's 9 year
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had an exhibition game and it 
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It was just, I think they played
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was 4. 
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entire game. 
Some good defense, some good 

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pitching. 
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when you are a a Northeast 
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for the first month of the 
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think it's almost football 
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right toward the end of my son's
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chilly, man. 
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between her and bats, whatever. 
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home, we had sushi. 
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simple. 
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watch the pregame show. 
I mean, I ignored a lot of it, 

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whatever, but it was, you know, 
like the production was what it 

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to be an infomercial for all the
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Like I I get it. 
I understand there's a lot of 

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complaints here today. 
They did miss the first ABS ABS 

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challenge. 
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It's easy to criticize Netflix 
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like and and I know that they 
got knocked around for that 

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today, but I don't know how you 
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around that because when they 
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that's a very interesting move. 
I mean, I'm not going to get too

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much into it now, but the Giants
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learned this last night. 
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sport. 
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this, but the Giants manager was
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Tennessee went from D1 high 
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I'm not even sure if Tony played
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maybe he played. 
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minors, never played in the 
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the pro game. 
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and more of that. 
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younger from an executive point 
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start to see these, these, these
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ACC or the SEC, you know, it's, 
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conferences have changed, like, 
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analytics, the usage of 
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technology. 
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obviously not as much as the 
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I love his support staff, but 
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thing. 
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give the Giants credit. 
I love them for having the, you 

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know, the the foresight this 
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We like this guy. 
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he'll be able to make the 
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But the point is, is that they 
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And that's when Jose Caballero 
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Wanted to get the replay. 
I actually thought it was a 

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ball. 
It seemed like it was a little 

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bit inside. 
Whatever. 

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I mean, if we're going to start 
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replays for for pitch challenges
on a ball and strike, now we're 

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just going down a rabbit hole 
that that I really don't have a 

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whole lot of interest going 
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But I mean, people are talking 
about the whole history was made

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last night in San Francisco. 
Like you would think it was 1973

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and Ron Bloomberg was the first 
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for the New York Yankees like, 
and you're going to go down in 

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history as the the first 
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I saw that the Hall of Fame 
already took Caballero's helmet 

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and they wanted to authenticate 
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Cooperstown. 
All right, fantastic. 

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But they did get knocked around 
a little bit because when they 

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were interviewing Patello, 
that's when Caballero tapped the

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helmet and and they missed some 
of it. 

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Now listen, it was, I timed it 
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It was about 20 seconds. 
It didn't take that long. 

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The umpire turns around, looks 
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thumb down, let's play, let's 
go. 

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It literally took 19 or 20 
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So it's not a big deal. 
You know, you can't do it every 

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single pitch. 
So it's not going to be that 

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much of a hindrance in terms of 
the time or the pacing of the 

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game. 
And I'm of the mindset, you 

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know, if we're going to lean on 
technology, right, to see how 

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much somebody's, you know, 
curveball spins or his four 

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seamer spins, the revolutions 
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talk about chase rate and with 
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those other exits below, then 
why the hell wouldn't you lean 

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on technology to reverse a call 
that was wrong? 

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The funny thing though, and I'm 
like, wait, am I, is my eyesight

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going here or is it just well, 
it is a little bit, but or is it

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or are they just missing calls? 
There were calls, I think the 

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first pitch to error judge the 
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He had a rough night, man. 
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he cared what he did that last 
that bad. 

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I don't care if I hit A5 hopper 
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I just can't go down 5 whiffs. 
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swinging early in the count. 
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the count there that that's 
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strikeouts for anybody. 
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high. 
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other pitches that were, you 
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box. 
I'm like that that looked like a

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ball, but they're not going to 
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So it's really, you know, I 
baseball's back. 

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That's what I really care about 
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I know school bulls pitching 
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I'm going to check in on the 
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all the other nonsense and all 
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you know, an ancillary piece of 
the game. 

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I'm not going to allow it to to 
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Yankees look really good. 
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of the great things about having
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eventually somebody like Gary 
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Schlittler as he evolves as a 
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See, I like right. 
I don't love the Yankee lineup. 

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You know this. 
I don't need to always reset my 

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positions. 
I mean, it's largely based on 

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quickly. 
I just don't like Grisham as a 

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lead off hitter, you know, but 
most of the other components I 

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really do like. 
I I, I do wish they had one more

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righty, which is why I I would 
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Bichette. 
But you know, the, the, the 

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Yankees going to hit. 
I mean, the Yankees had the 

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number one offense in baseball 
last year, even if it was a 

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little misleading because Aaron 
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reliant on the home run and all 
that stuff. 

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fruition, and I didn't think 
this last year going into the 

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season, and I really haven't 
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of seasons and and go back and 
find the tapes, even when I was 

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on the fan, like I wasn't 
getting on the air opening day 

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saying, Yep, I think the Yanks 
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championship. 
Like for me, that expired a long

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time ago. 
There was a point where whether 

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it was the pursuit of a free 
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or, you know, down a down a game
in a, in a playoff series, he 

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obviously in October, like 
because the Yankees won so much.

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9698992000 you know, I mean, 
2001 they should have beat the 

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Diamondbacks, broken back base, 
hit Mariano Rivera up the 

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middle. 
It happens. 2003 they let a 

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young Marlins pitching staff 
kind of punk them. 

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Yankees probably should have won
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obviously got a little thin at 
some early exits. 

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A rod was dumped to the bottom 
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Tori, and then it just, you 
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they kind of languished and 
plateaued out. 

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Then they rebuilt it in O 9. 
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they spent $250 million that 
offseason getting Sabathia, who 

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I thought was pretty good on the
game last night. 

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I think he's got he's got a 
great personality. 

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So I think that CC's got a 
chance to really grow into an 

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outstanding commentator. 
But they got CC, they got 

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Burnett, they got Mark to share 
or they win, right? 

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I just lay out the history 
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if you were a Yankee fan, no 
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you just had this innate 
confidence based on what you've 

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watched or what you, you know, 
previously had watched forever. 

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Like, Oh yeah, the Yanks are 
going to find a way. 

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Like there were points when 
there was a free agent, Like you

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didn't sweat it. 
Oh, you like off the Yankees 

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really want him. 
The Yanks will get him because 

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they're the Yankees. 
They always win and they'll cut 

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the biggest check and you've got
the OR of the Yankees. 

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So there was never any sweating 
out of Oh my, you know, they are

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they going to get this guy done.
You know, like like everybody 

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was sweating out the Sodo stuff 
and obviously some of the other 

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stuff this year, even with 
Bellinger, it wasn't a home run 

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that the Yankees were going to 
get the offer to the point that 

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Bellinger would have would have 
re up. 

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So that's long dissipated, 
right. 

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So I'm not the kind of Yankee 
fan. 

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Listen, I do this for a living. 
I'm not nine years old with Don 

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Mattingly posters all over my 
bedroom. 

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Those were in the man cave. 
No, but I, I'd like to think 

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that I, that I do objectively 
attack even the teams that that,

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that, that I grew up rooting for
and that I still, that I still 

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root for. 
So I'm not the kind of guy who, 

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no matter what, thinks the 
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So I don't think the Yankees 
will win the World Series this 

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year unless and now I get to Max
free the other components, 

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right? 
Last night was a great example 

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why you need an ace. 
Now a lot of people say, well, 

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you know, the games become a 
really byproduct of the bullpen.

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Certainly you get to October, 
you've got to have high 

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leverage, flame throwing arms, 
multiple ones coming out, even 

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6th inning, really not even just
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7th, but it's even kind of crept
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pitchers don't go that long 
anymore. 

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So you've got to have a stable 
of viable arms out there, right?

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And and that's true. 
And like, you know, when, when, 

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when, when, when I wish I was to
say when we but depending upon 

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how old you are, like when I was
younger, every single you just 

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knew the ace, right, And there's
obviously a few around baseball 

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right now. 
The schemes is the school Bulls,

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the Freeds, Peralta for the 
Mets, Garrett Crochet. 

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There's obviously 789 legitimate
top aces, but last night was an 

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example why you've got to feel 
really good, not just because 

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the Yankees won 7 zip and they 
hit, you know, and they just 

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look pretty sharp. 
But somebody like Max Freed, if 

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you were a if you were a little 
less than than Max free talent 

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wise, you don't make it past the
third inning because he was on 

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the ropes in the first inning, 
gave up a hit. 

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Granted a little bloop there 
that that Grisham didn't get a 

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good jump on and that sun was 
tough. 

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I mean, a 5:00 start out West, 
you got the shadows halfway 

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across the diamond. 
And like it's not hard enough to

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hit a fastball that, you know, 
although Webb doesn't throw that

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hard, you know, relative to his 
peers. 

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But like when you're in the 
shadows and a guy's throwing 

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9899 miles an hour and then he 
busts off, you know, change up 

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or something soft and there's a 
13 or 15 mile per hour variance 

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and you're trying to decipher 
spin and pick up what kind of 

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pitch it is. 
And Oh yeah, by the way, hit the

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ball's light that it's dark that
it's light again. 

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Good luck hitting that. 
I mean, even Jazz, like he said 

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when he was getting interviewed 
and out that that I enjoyed that

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part. 
Like he when he was in second 

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base miked up. 
I do love his energy and I do 

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love his his most of the time, 
his approach to the game. 

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But even she's like he said, I 
couldn't even see that when he 

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got hit in the rib sack. 
I couldn't really see the ball. 

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So, you know, it's it's tough 
enough to do that. 

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Anyway, the point is, is that 
last night could have been 

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instead of a 17 or an 18 pitch 
first inning for Max Freed, it 

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very well could have been 323335
give up two runs. 

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Not that two runs is a deficit 
that you can't overcome, but 

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residually what that does for 
the rest of the game. 

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And then as a byproduct of that,
what it does for the rest of the

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series. 
Well, now you you unnecessarily 

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tax your bullpen early and then 
you get deeper into the series 

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and, you know, maybe one arm 
that you would want for the 

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third game or if you're playing 
A4 game series, he's not 

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available because he was thrust 
into action unnecessarily 

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because the starter couldn't, 
you know, wiggle out of a jam 

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early. 
And to me, that's the best part 

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about the Yankees. 
Obviously, you think about the 

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Yankees, you think about Aaron 
Judge. 

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That goes without saying. 
And Aaron Judge, OK, what 

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happened last night? 
You know, Aaron Judge going to 

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bang fifty home runs, win the 
MVP, drive in 120, have an OPS, 

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minimally over 1000, have a WAR.
I don't know. 

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Last year it was 10. 
I think 3 of the last four years

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or so it's been 10. 
Even if his WAR takes this 

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massive drop to 8 1/2 or 9, you 
know he's going to be the legal 

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leader in WAR. 
You would think that he would 

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be. 
So obviously Judge is the man, 

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but the Yankees real chance to 
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going to be the starting 
pitching. 

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And I I identified this a while 
ago where, you know, just 

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following Gerrard Cole's 
comeback and obviously the 

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emergence of Cam Schlettler. 
And now you get to to a point in

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the season here and, and we're 
obviously not there yet. 

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We just started, but all right, 
you give the ball to Max free, 

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then you give the ball to Cole, 
then you give the ball to 

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Schlittler. 
Eventually when Cole comes back,

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then, Oh yeah, by the way, you 
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maybe Rodon becomes 3 and 
Schlittler becomes 4. 

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Maybe. 
But either way, you know, if 

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Rodon's a three, he's a pretty 
good three. 

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If he's a four, he might be the 
best 4IN baseball. 

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And then even as you stretch 
things out and get to the number

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5 spot in the Yankees rotation, 
whether it's Will Warren or 

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Clark Schmidt or whomever, well,
now that number 5 is going to 

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be, I would think the constably 
better than almost any other 

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team in baseball. 
They're #5 So the Yankees are 

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obviously going to win a lot of 
regular season games. 

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And because they have, you know,
even without Cole right now and 

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Rodan, you know, somebody like 
Freed, it's just paramount 

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because there's a chance like 
let's just say Schlitter doesn't

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have it. 
You know, let's say that Ryan 

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Weathers, I mean, you know, I 
know he throws hard and he he's 

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electric. 
He's got electric stuff. 

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He's a lefty 9899. 
All right, very interesting 

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upside. 
Injury prone. 

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Yankees are very good with these
reclamation projects, if you 

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could call them that for the 
pitching department. 

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They really don't do it with 
hitters. 

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They're great with it in 
pitching and when when you have 

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competent arms and competent 
arms on the back end and elite 

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arms on the front end, well, you
#1 you obviously win a lot of 

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games. 
But also those guys on the front

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end, when they don't have their 
best stuff, they find a way to 

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plow through it and then they 
find their good stuff. 

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And you know, I don't think that
Max Freed had his best stuff 

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last night to start a matter of 
fact, the post game show. 

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I don't even know what the post 
game show was about. 

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Like let like last night's, even
though I'm not, I'm not really 

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bagging on that Netflix's 
coverage. 

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It was what it was. 
But what in the world were they 

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doing post game? 
I mean, they're giving out 

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jackets. 
You got Jameis Winston slinging 

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hot dogs. 
Get your hot dogs. 

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Yeah. 
You want onions? 

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You want sauerkraut? 
What do you want on your hot 

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dog? 
Max? 

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For Max. 
I had a laugh. 

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I think it was called like the 
maybe the champion dog. 

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What? 
Whatever the hell it was and the

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jihadi who did a good job with 
that tough spot. 

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I don't think anybody's going to
look great doing that because it

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was corny. 
But she was good and she's 

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talented. 
And she, I think she or, or 

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maybe Jameis said, Hey, what 
kind of hot dog you want? 

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And you see Max free like he's 
like, you got the champion, you 

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got this. 
He's like, I'll take the 

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champion hot dog. 
So jihadi's like, hey, you going

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to eat it? 
And or no, he opened it. 

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And she was like, well, what are
you doing? 

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He's like, but I don't even know
what's in it, you know, very 

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nicely. 
But can I take a look at what 

443
00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:28,080
hot what, what, what's on the 
what's on the hot dog? 

444
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,800
I mean, it was just a weird 
setup, really. 

445
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,600
I think it was called the 
Netflix MVP jacket. 

446
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:38,000
I mean, like the leather 
sleeves, like the old 1960s or 

447
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,960
70s varsity jacket. 
You handed out varsity jackets. 

448
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,640
You're slinging hot dogs. 
I mean, that was corny. 

449
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,640
Like the other stuff was just 
kind of long, you know? 

450
00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,440
All right, here's the WWE promo.
Here's John Cena talking about 

451
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,320
ABS. 
Here's that other guy coming out

452
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,320
hyping up the crowd. 
Here's the comedian, here's the 

453
00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:00,080
hand dancing across the field. 
First pitch with a hand from 

454
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,680
from the Addams family. 
Like there was a lot of wacky 

455
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:07,080
shit going on, but it was fine. 
But the the the last thing that 

456
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,800
I watched at the end, that's 
where I'm like, I would jump in 

457
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,440
the shark here, guys. 
I mean, it was it was just a 

458
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:17,080
little weird, but you know, 
Freed to me if that's a lesser 

459
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,560
pitcher, right? 
Say if that, and I think will 

460
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,200
Warren's fine, but I'm going to 
use will Warren right? 

461
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,320
So say if the Yankees don't have
a Max Freed, say if he never 

462
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,440
signed with them and Garrett 
calls out, well, now you've got 

463
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:29,960
a completely different 
complexion. 

464
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,040
There's if that's the case, 
there's a chance somebody like 

465
00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:35,840
well may have been Cam 
Schlittler, who I love, but it 

466
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,800
it may have been somebody like 
Louise Hill, who's not even the 

467
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,840
starting the year on the team. 
He might have been the opening 

468
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,120
day starter, right. 
And if somebody like Louise 

469
00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:46,160
Hill, he's a better example than
Will Warren, because when Louise

470
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,360
Hill doesn't have it right away,
you know it. 

471
00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:50,200
And he almost never fights out 
of it. 

472
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,240
And it's an uphill battle. 
Can't find the strike zone, 

473
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,200
can't command the secondary 
stuff, can't really locate his 

474
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,480
fastball, can't work ahead. 
And when that's the case, you 

475
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,080
know, here comes the pitch 
count. 

476
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,840
Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. 
It continues to grow. 

477
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,600
And then invariably, you know, 
you give up a couple of runs, 

478
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,200
which obviously you know, for 
the end result is not good. 

479
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,160
But now you got a guy who's 
thrown 67 pitches. 

480
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:17,360
It's, you know, 3 2/3 or 4 to 
3rd, you know, bullpen, bullpen,

481
00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:20,800
bullpen, 3 or 4 more arms that 
you don't necessarily want to 

482
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,680
use. 
You know, Yankees didn't really 

483
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,160
use their high leverage arms 
less, but no need to they didn't

484
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,880
at all. 
Not not that they really didn't.

485
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,320
They didn't. 
So kudos to Max freed for for 

486
00:22:30,360 --> 00:22:33,400
for plowing through that because
that very easily could have been

487
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,680
again, a 35 or 36 pitch inning. 
And instead it was not. 

488
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,000
So Yankees start the season the 
right way. 

489
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,720
They look pretty good. 
They look pretty sharp, good 

490
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,480
energy. 
And you know, I, I, I think 

491
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,840
it's, I think it's just tight. 
It's right that baseball back. 

492
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,720
My God. 
I mean, it's just awesome 

493
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,400
sitting there watching baseball.
I love it. 

494
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,240
And the other thing I don't have
a problem with and it this isn't

495
00:22:57,120 --> 00:23:01,080
whether it's a Netflix thing or 
whatever other streaming outlet.

496
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,200
No, Apple, obviously Apple does 
baseball. 

497
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,640
Like people talk about growing 
the game of baseball, right? 

498
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,920
And how it's lost some 
popularity and it certainly has.

499
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,640
I mean, you know, think about 
the mantra, America's pastime, 

500
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,240
the 50's, the golden age of 
baseball. 

501
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,480
It was a song. 
Willie, Mickey and the Duke, you

502
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,760
know, Willie Mays, Duke Snyder, 
Mickey Mantle, of course, and 

503
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,840
three great center fielders, 
Yankees, Dodgers, Giants, New 

504
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,400
York. 
And that golden age of baseball,

505
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:33,840
that era, you know, that was he 
coming off World War 2 and guys 

506
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,680
like Ted Williams and and and 
and so met Bob Felder, so many 

507
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,960
great all time baseball players.
They lost a couple of years of 

508
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,640
their prime fighting for our 
country. 

509
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,520
So when they came back, they 
were they were obviously 

510
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,200
embraced and obviously uplifted.
And NFL wasn't nearly as 

511
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,200
popular. 
You know, hockey is, I don't 

512
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,520
want to say hockey's a niche 
sport that's not a dish dish, 

513
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,520
but it's not as it's just, it's 
just not as popular. 

514
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,800
So the NBA certainly in the 50s,
I mean, it barely existed. 

515
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,120
And then in the 70s it was 
basically dying and you had the 

516
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,480
ABA and it was it was, it was 
riddled with drugs and poor 

517
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,720
attendance and it was a broken 
product. 

518
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,080
And then obviously Magic and 
Bird, they you know, they 

519
00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:16,280
helped, they did perfect timing.
You know, white guy from the 

520
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,160
farm, black dude with style, 
totally different players. 

521
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,280
They play in the NC double, you 
know, just in terms of how they 

522
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,920
play the game play in the NCAA 
championship. 

523
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,400
You got the Hick from the farm. 
It's just with the Courtney 

524
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:32,120
moustache and he's a tight 
shorts and you know like he just

525
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,560
he looks like a complete non 
athlete. 

526
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,160
But then he goes out there, he 
kills everybody. 

527
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,960
But his style was so different 
and then he got magic. 

528
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,280
The swag, you know, he had, he 
had the little Afro back then, 

529
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,440
the no look passes, you know, 
the chain. 

530
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,080
And it was, you know, hey, 
Celtics on the East, Lakers on 

531
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,640
the West, white guy, black guy 
that obviously helped rebuild 

532
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,720
the NBA. 
And then Jordan came in the mid 

533
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,640
80s etcetera and it just 
exploded took off right Barkley,

534
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,440
all those stars, Ewing came to 
the Knicks, the Knicks became 

535
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:03,240
good again. 
So baseball to me has has 

536
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,200
certainly withstood the test of 
time. 

537
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,400
It will because I think that 
they finally learned they needed

538
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,280
to modernize some things with 
the pace. 

539
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:14,760
I think the level of athleticism
in baseball is off the charts. 

540
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,280
It's never been like this. 
I mean, if you look look at some

541
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,120
old baseball cards really from 
the 80s, right? 

542
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,080
And obviously before that, but 
I'm just talking about when I 

543
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,960
started looking at baseball 
cards in the 80s, right? 

544
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,160
You know, your first baseman was
generally a, you know, a guy 

545
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,480
looked like he could be a 
bouncer. 

546
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,720
Your left fielder, your right 
fielder had an arm, but he 

547
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,080
really couldn't run a lick. 
You know, your catcher was going

548
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,640
to hit two O 9 with four home 
runs and like think like Ron 

549
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,600
Karkovice guys. 
It just looked awful in uniforms

550
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,440
and could not run at all. 
Your shortstop was going to hit 

551
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,360
230 and bumped every time up. 
Your second baseman pretty much 

552
00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:54,000
the same thing as slap guy. 
You had three hitters that you 

553
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,040
really had to worry about that 
you had to navigate in the 

554
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,560
lineup. 
Now it's totally different. 

555
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,640
Almost everybody could run. 
Almost everybody's got juice in 

556
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,200
their bats and just a little 
side turn here. 

557
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,280
What's happened in the game of 
baseball? 

558
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,360
And then I want to get back to 
the marketability of the game. 

559
00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:11,880
But what's and and tying it in 
with Netflix, What happened? 

560
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,560
What had happened was what what 
happened. 

561
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,920
I'd say about I've been saying 
that I remember saying this to 

562
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,760
Tiki when we were doing the 
national show and, you know, 

563
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,920
explaining to him how the game 
was changing from an athletic 

564
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,000
point of view, right. 
So back in the day, you would 

565
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,960
have, all right, you know, we 
have a college first baseman or 

566
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,240
high school first baseman, and 
that guy would get drafted. 

567
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,440
And he would, if he made it, if 
he was good, if he hit enough, 

568
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,120
he'd be a Major League first 
baseman, right? 

569
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,680
And then same thing you'd have 
like an outfielder. 

570
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,560
Grant is an outfielder. 
What happened, I'd say probably 

571
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,880
about 20 years ago, is that 
almost all of these teams just 

572
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,200
started drafting. 
I mean, not, I mean I'm a little

573
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,120
hyperbolic here, clearly, but 
for the most part, they focused 

574
00:26:56,120 --> 00:26:59,880
on shortstops and they would 
get, you know, the best high 

575
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,520
school shortstops and the best 
college shortstops and then they

576
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,640
would all get drafted. 
And they still, this still 

577
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,760
happens like the Yankees a 
couple of years ago, drafted I 

578
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,360
think 5 or 6 different 
shortstops. 

579
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,080
Of the 5 or 6, maybe one will 
make the minors, but I can 

580
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,800
promise you of the five of them 
will make the majors. 

581
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,120
But of the five or six that were
drafted, I can also promise you 

582
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,120
that maybe one or two will wind 
up playing shortstop extensively

583
00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:24,840
and exclusively in the mitre. 
So they'll draft all these short

584
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,920
stops. 
And then based on natural 

585
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,960
nutrition, how you handle the 
position, how your body grows, 

586
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,160
you know, and develops as you 
get older, how you hit, 

587
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,120
obviously you know you'll get 
moved off the position. 

588
00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:38,880
And a guy who is drafted as a 
shortstop before you know it, 

589
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,680
maybe he's playing center field,
maybe he's playing left field. 

590
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,320
Obviously a lot of short stops. 
If they, you know, a tick slow, 

591
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,200
whatever it might be in the 
range department, boom, move 25 

592
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,600
feet to your right or third 
baseman or boom, move 25 feet to

593
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,640
your left and you are a second 
baseman. 

594
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,760
And then a lot of lefties that 
were drafted that were, were 

595
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,520
good athletes, you know, 
pitchers, outfielders, first 

596
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,120
baseman, those guys generally 
gravitate to the position of of 

597
00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:06,880
first base. 
So even first base has become 

598
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,880
much more athletic. 
So the game is incredibly 

599
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,520
healthy from an athletic and an 
explosive perspective. 

600
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,600
That's something deniable. 
Just trust me on that. 

601
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:21,160
So if all that's changing, 
right, don't you think that we 

602
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,920
have to kind of just suck it up 
and take it on the chin and 

603
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,120
understand that the 
marketability of the sport to 

604
00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:31,600
match the other sports 
popularity, particularly 

605
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,880
football in the NBA? 
Don't you think it's got to take

606
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,120
a little bit of a script from 
WWE, like a little bit of a 

607
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:40,760
circus element, the high 
production stretch things out. 

608
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,560
That's why to start the show, 
you know, I said, all right, you

609
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,480
got the comedian, you got the 
WWE guys, you got the little 

610
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,800
hand dancing across the field on
a skateboard. 

611
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,480
I think it was whatever the hell
it was. 

612
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,680
So I just I've learned to accept
it. 

613
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,520
I think most of the kids find it
cool. 

614
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,480
Like at one point my son did 
say, listen, all right, let's 

615
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,680
let's start the game. 
But you know, like when he sees 

616
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,720
a wrestler cutting promo on the 
middle in the middle of the 

617
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,120
diamond, he's not thinking 
because he's 11. 

618
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,960
He's not thinking what I'm 
thinking to an extent, even 

619
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,480
though I'm, you know, I'm not 
going to be that guy. 

620
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,440
Get off my lawn. 
You got to evolve, you got to 

621
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,640
grow. 
He's not thinking like, what the

622
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,200
hell is this weird man? 
What's going on? 

623
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,600
Because that's kind of all he 
knows. 

624
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,400
Like that's all he's been 
exposed to. 

625
00:29:24,880 --> 00:30:00,520
And and I think. 
We'll be right back. 

626
00:31:28,870 --> 00:31:31,390
Read that. 
I don't know, am I? 

627
00:31:32,230 --> 00:31:34,270
I mean, you are right now. 
You are right now. 

628
00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:38,070
Hang on, make sure this is OK. 
This fucking thing. 

629
00:31:38,990 --> 00:31:39,870
Oh my gosh. 
All right. 

630
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:42,800
Yeah, I think, I think we're 
good. 

631
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,240
I think we're good. 
We're good. 

632
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,440
All right, we're good now. 
We're good. 

633
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:50,480
We're good. 
Jesus, I don't know. 

634
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,400
I don't know why that happened. 
Netflix pulled the plug on you. 

635
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,600
But I'm not going through 
Netflix here. 

636
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,440
You know, I'm going through a 
company that I've worked with 

637
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,640
forever that I love. 
So anyway, sorry about that 

638
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,120
guys. 
The I guess the presentation of 

639
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,880
baseball, you just going to have
to learn to deal with it because

640
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,680
I, I get it. 
Sometimes it's cathartic to 

641
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,200
complain to. 
It is I I get it makes you feel 

642
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,080
good, right? 
You know, you, you take 

643
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,520
something. 
Certainly I feel better. 

644
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,720
You know, when The Jets lose 30 
to 6, I feel a little bit better

645
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,840
getting on the air and losing my
mind that just eviscerating 

646
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,840
everybody, even though it 
doesn't solve anything. 

647
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,480
Nothing really changes until it 
changes. 

648
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,560
But I think that some of you in 
your protest with the way the 

649
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,680
game of baseball has gone, you 
know, kind of reaching into some

650
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,320
of the other tricks of the other
sports. 

651
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,880
I think that maybe you think in 
some weird way or some some 

652
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,000
convoluted way that that's going
to be heard and that's going to 

653
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,000
change the way they actually 
attack the sport and market the 

654
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,960
sport. 
And it's not, it's going to get 

655
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:54,880
more and more and more WWE 
because that sells. 

656
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,800
So I, I did enjoy the game. 
You know, again, a couple times 

657
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,920
I'm like, let's go. 
It's taking a long time here, 

658
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,680
but baseball's back now. 
Jay, you're, you're interesting 

659
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,640
to ask here because you're, 
you're basketball's your 

660
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,600
favorite sport. 
By the way, Jay Rod's back for 

661
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:08,800
the dead. 
I mean yesterday. 

662
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,520
You know, shout out, shout out, 
my man Yitzy from high urgent 

663
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,440
care. 
He he revived me. 

664
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,240
He did my guy, my guy. 
Yes, Sir. 

665
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,160
Is there anything real quick? 
Is there anything better than 

666
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,440
than urgent care? 
Like when I was when I was 

667
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,080
young, I remember like, yo, if 
you had like strep throat or 

668
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,640
yeah, you had a real fever, 103,
we had something else, whatever.

669
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,560
And you couldn't go to school, 
which was awesome. 

670
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:32,840
When you when you, when you miss
school. 

671
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,440
I mean, it was like there's a 
snow day and there's a sick day.

672
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,000
And if you're a little sick, 
then it's great. 

673
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,840
If you're really sick, it kind 
of stinks because you can't do 

674
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,360
anything. 
But there were no urgent cares 

675
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,480
when I was young. 
Like I had to go. 

676
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,120
Doctor Cuskin, I don't know how 
I still remember my Yeah, but 

677
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,960
I'm talking about when I was 
like 567. 

678
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,080
I still remember what his office
looked like, guys, a million 

679
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,880
years ago, million years ago. 
But I also remember like, and it

680
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,440
was around the corner. 
So we walked there, my mom and I

681
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,720
and the OR and and my sister, if
she was, if she was sick too, 

682
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,480
and we but we'd be in the 
waiting room forever. 

683
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,280
Now you just go in, you're 
literally going to urgent care. 

684
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,760
Like if you think you have 
COVID. 

685
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,360
Yeah. 
You want a COVID test? 

686
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,480
I'm not. 
I usually I'd never get one, but

687
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:13,920
I mean, I did when it first 
started. 

688
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,360
But yeah, yeah. 
You want a test? 

689
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:16,000
No. 
Good. 

690
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:16,360
Yeah. 
All right. 

691
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,400
Here's no, you don't have COVID 
now. 

692
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:18,480
You don't have this. 
I don't have strep. 

693
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,199
I don't have the hey, you know, 
here's a little amoxicillin, you

694
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:25,320
know, here's, you know, 5 pills 
that you take or Z pack. 

695
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,400
You take this. 
Z Pack's the best. 

696
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,440
See, I ever. 
Here's the other thing, Jay, 

697
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,960
that I remember too, Like when, 
when we, when, when we were sick

698
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,320
as kids, there'd be like 5 
bottles of shit that you had to 

699
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,639
take the cough syrup, which 
tasted awful. 

700
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,040
I mean, that was awful. 
I hate that stuff. 

701
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:45,280
You know, but then there was 
like this pill and that pill and

702
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,679
I, you know, and now, which is 
like, all right, here's AZ pack 

703
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:52,560
and then our urgent care and we 
have, we have primary doctors, 

704
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:54,960
but the, our urgent care is 
right next to the pharmacy. 

705
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,360
So I'm going to call it in. 
You walk 2 steps next door, you 

706
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,040
pick it up, you go home, you 
start. 

707
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,560
I think the first day you pop 
the 2 pills and then it's one 

708
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,080
day after. 
So good to see that you're back 

709
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,240
from the dead because you're 
looking awful. 

710
00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:09,120
Like I was worried about you, 
Jay. 

711
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,600
I mean, I, I honestly was not 
sure I was going to going to 

712
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,240
make it through the day 
yesterday, but you know what, 

713
00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:17,520
like, I'm glad, I'm glad 
everything cleared up pretty 

714
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:22,240
quickly and back at it. 
Good man, good. 

715
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:28,360
So as I start to ask you here, 
do you, as you watch these games

716
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,680
now, whether it's the NFL on 
Prime, baseball on Apple, 

717
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,400
baseball on Netflix, what is 
your mindset? 

718
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,520
Do you think it's too much, too 
hokey, 'cause you're younger and

719
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,040
you process this stuff 
differently? 

720
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,440
Because it's kind of all you 
know, not all you know, you're 

721
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,000
not nine years old, but you know
what I mean. 

722
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,160
No, I mean, for me, I think, 
listen, I think there's a little

723
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,520
too much theatrics for some of 
it. 

724
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,680
I think maybe you could go for 
one or two things. 

725
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,640
Maybe you go for the Jay USO and
the Little West Side Story 

726
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,280
people dancing on the taxis and 
stuff like that. 

727
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,880
Like, yeah, I think that's fun. 
I don't think you need the whole

728
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,080
smorgasboard of everything 
coming at you. 

729
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,120
But yeah, I mean, I think for 
the younger audiences, like 

730
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,440
you're saying, like your son, 
you know, it gets him into it 

731
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,600
with some of the synergy from, 
you know, the other products and

732
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,400
stuff like that. 
Do I personally need it as, you 

733
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,080
know, someone who, yeah, I'm 
still a younger audience, but 

734
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,920
does it really get me amped up 
to see Jay USO and some yeet 

735
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:32,200
sunglasses? 
Not not, not in entirely, but 

736
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,640
yeah, I think it's fun. 
I think it's good, like I said, 

737
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,960
good synergy, good to bring in 
multiple brands, multiple fans 

738
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,800
from other entities. 
But on the whole, no, it doesn't

739
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,560
really impact my want or desire 
to watch a game. 

740
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,200
So, but all right, so it doesn't
impact your want through your 

741
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,800
desire, but does it take away 
from your viewing pleasure? 

742
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,480
2 very different things, no? 
I think it just kind of I think 

743
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,840
it kind of just makes me go, you
know, today, today, today, like 

744
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,600
once it once you hit like the 
because what was it? 

745
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,760
The game was supposed to tip off
at nine O 5. 

746
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,000
It started like 930. 
Or eight O 5. 

747
00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:09,280
It was 20 minutes of the 
nonsense like it was getting. 

748
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,400
Yeah, that's. 
What I mean once once we got to 

749
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,840
like, I'm trying to think, I 
think once we got to what did 

750
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,760
the Giants come off like a bus? 
I mean, obviously both teams got

751
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,760
to the thing, the trolleys. 
Yeah, once you got off of done 

752
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,680
with that, I think you could 
have just ripped the game after 

753
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,520
that. 
So yeah, got a little impatient.

754
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,920
But no, on the whole it is what 
it is. 

755
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,960
I wouldn't mind seeing like the 
Yankees, you know, and, and a 

756
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,360
lot of Yankee fans would resist 
this because they're so rooted 

757
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,320
in tradition and as am I. 
But like, you know, the beard 

758
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,280
policy now, the fact that it was
for Devin Williams and Devin 

759
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,880
Williams pretty much sucked last
year and now he's gone. 

760
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,400
All right. 
That's who you that's who you 

761
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,520
bent the rules for, you know, or
even the the patch with with 

762
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,880
Star Insurance, who I have a lot
of good friends there, you know,

763
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,560
Star Insurance, great people. 
I think they paid 20 or $25 

764
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,080
million to have that patch on 
the jersey, the advertising. 

765
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,480
And you know, the soccer team 
started doing that first, then 

766
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,320
the NBA, then the NFL, the 
practice jurors. 

767
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,120
He's like you're either first or
you're 4th. 

768
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,080
I mean, but eventually you get 
to jump in and grab a piece of 

769
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,960
the financial pie or you're an 
idiot. 

770
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,280
Like that's the commissioner's 
job to do that, that as an 

771
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,640
owner, that is your job to to 
help increase the revenue 

772
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,640
stream. 
So if I've got a great insurance

773
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,520
company like Star and they're 
willing to pay me 20 or I think 

774
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:27,360
it was $25,000,000.20 or $25 
million per year, I think was 

775
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,160
per year to to have that visible
for every single Yankee game, no

776
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,400
matter what station or streaming
they're on. 

777
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,080
To me that's a win win, 
25,000,000 bucks in my pocket. 

778
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,800
And if I'm Star, I'm sitting 
there saying, okay, and by the 

779
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,760
way, $25 million, you know, 
would pay for probably, you 

780
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,880
know, a good, I'd say, depending
upon which players we're talking

781
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,360
about, obviously back in the 
roster. 

782
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,400
And that's 8910 players right 
there. 

783
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,600
Yeah, You know, because Rice 
doesn't make it. 

784
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,040
Rice isn't making money yet. 
Wells isn't making money. 

785
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,440
Caballero's not making a lot of 
money. 

786
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:56,880
Bope, he's not making a lot of 
money. 

787
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,680
Some of these, you know, Louise,
Heels not making a lot of money.

788
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,360
Will Warren, Clark, Schmidt, 
these guys aren't making any 

789
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,960
loot. 
The real guys making the loot. 

790
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:10,040
Judge Stanton, Gerrit Cole, Max 
Freed, Grisham at the 22 this 

791
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,000
year and Bellinger as pretty 
much it. 

792
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,760
So, yeah, I, you know, like, so 
I do think that Yankee fans 

793
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,120
would kind of roll their eyes if
if we were to see this for the 

794
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,360
Yankee home opener. 
But if you're going to do 

795
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,440
something to symbolize the city,
right, like they obviously did 

796
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,840
last night, the trolley and how 
the Giants came out of that, 

797
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,720
Well, then, I mean, listen, you 
kind of biting off the idea you 

798
00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:35,040
want to be original. 
So I, I, they, they wouldn't do 

799
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,000
it. 
But like, if you told me that 

800
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,560
there was like the fake train 
with graffiti on it, like that 

801
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,120
just looked like New York, 
right? 

802
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,160
And you had Yankee stepping off 
the train to like. 

803
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:49,800
You know I'd be sad. 
Pounding throughout the stadium,

804
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,640
I was like, that's pretty cool. 
I like. 

805
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,240
It even and even if you get like
if you had like a dude like Nas 

806
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,160
come out with the Yankees 
rapping New York State of mind 

807
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,960
or doing, you know, something 
from Illmatic, you got him 

808
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,160
coming out who's like a famous 
San Francisco artist. 

809
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,320
I'm trying to E40 something like
that. 

810
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,520
I mean. 
He's you pulling something. 

811
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,080
But but yeah, yeah. 
Journey right and journey from 

812
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:12,720
out there. 
I thought they. 

813
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,680
Were yeah, yeah, I guess it'd be
a little bit if they came out 

814
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,240
and did. 
Don't wait, I'd be sick. 

815
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,680
Don't stop believing as you're 
coming off the trolley. 

816
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,520
That would be. 
Yeah, yeah, I hear you. 

817
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,560
No, San Fran at that stadium is 
at that stadium is absolutely. 

818
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,280
Oh, my bad. 
Hold on. 

819
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,520
I was trying to pop something up
here. 

820
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,560
James, 555K. 
The inside of the stadium there 

821
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,320
is the nicest part of San 
Francisco these days. 

822
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,240
I have not been to San Francisco
in a while. 

823
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,880
I know it's a massive complaint.
I know you can get that off 

824
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:39,880
there, Jay. 
Thank you, brother. 

825
00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:43,160
I, I know that homelessness has,
has always been an issue in San 

826
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,840
Francisco, sadly. 
I mean, listen, when you, when 

827
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,600
you, when you look at just like 
the topography of that part of 

828
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,920
the country, I mean, it's 
absolutely gorgeous. 

829
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,400
Like I've, you know, I told you 
we lived there for about two 

830
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,600
years and the way the stadium 
set up, have you ever been 

831
00:40:58,600 --> 00:40:59,520
there? 
I don't know if I asked you. 

832
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,280
Have you been to that stadium? 
The furthest out West I've been 

833
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,000
is Texas so. 
Oh my God, barely West of the 

834
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,560
Mississippi. 
You got to get out there, my 

835
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:08,800
man. 
Big time. 

836
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,200
Yeah, dude, all right, you're 
young, but you got to do it. 

837
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,480
So, so imagine I'm going to try 
to explain it to you here. 

838
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:20,200
So you got the stadium and then 
you've got it's it's within like

839
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,240
their, one of their, you know, I
don't know, cool areas called 

840
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:27,400
Stoma, South of market South, 
South of markets. 

841
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,520
That's the acronym SOMA South of
market, Market Avenue, I guess 

842
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,400
so like our Soho or something 
like that, right. 

843
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,760
Got it. 
And we lived there. 

844
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,840
We had a really nice apartment. 
Oh God, we were. 

845
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:43,320
We were probably 4/10 of a mile 
from Oracle Park right there. 

846
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:44,480
That's. 
So nice. 

847
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,680
Oh my goodness, phenomenal. 
My wife was selling for the, for

848
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,480
the TV station there, like their
regional cable network. 

849
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:52,960
And I know I mentioned that 
before. 

850
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,160
So we would get, or she would 
get and then by extension, I 

851
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,240
would get, we'd sit right beyond
the Giants dugout because, you 

852
00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:02,840
know, we got to know the Giants 
owner a little bit and it was 

853
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,360
just awesome. 
So we would walk there like on a

854
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,640
Sunday and get like the garlic 
fries, maybe get a Margarita. 

855
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,880
And it really is an absolutely 
beautiful vibe. 

856
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,680
And, and right, I, I know you 
saw the panoramic shot. 

857
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,280
You see a lot of water. 
I know you know about Mccovey's 

858
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,680
Cove in right field, everybody 
with the canoes, right? 

859
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,120
But like right behind the 
stadium is, is what they call 

860
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,800
the Embarcadero. 
And it's basically imagine like 

861
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,200
the West Side Highway, people 
bike the West Side Highway. 

862
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,840
OK, well, this is like the West 
Coast or San Francisco's version

863
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,680
of, of the, of the West Side 
Highway, only this is a lot 

864
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,280
nicer, right? 
And I know they built up the 

865
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,640
West Side Highway, but this is 
gorgeous. 

866
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,600
So it's right on the water, a 
lot of different restaurants and

867
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,960
you can literally walk base. 
And I've done it and it's not 

868
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,120
it's, it does it like it's a 
long walk, man. 

869
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,520
You can walk from Oracle all the
way down to Fisherman's Wharf. 

870
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,960
I mean, if I was to Google it, 
I'd have to say it's probably 5 

871
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,240
miles. 
It's I think it's about a five 

872
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:56,800
mile walk, something like that. 
You could bike, you could walk, 

873
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,240
you could skate, you can, You 
Can Dance, whatever you want to 

874
00:42:59,240 --> 00:43:02,000
do. 
And then really what what I 

875
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,680
think really makes it pop. 
And I do think God bless the 

876
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:05,840
Yankee Stadium. 
I love it. 

877
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,520
The Bronx, all that stuff, City 
fields, nice, great Dodger 

878
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,920
Stadium, OK, but everything 
around it, like you've got the 

879
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,040
Bay Bridge and you've got the 
Golden Gate Bridge and you've 

880
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,160
got Alcatraz. 
It's just, it's it palm trees, 

881
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,160
even though it's not San Diego, 
it's gets a little chilly. 

882
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,840
It's just gorgeous, man. 
But yeah, I mean, I, I know it's

883
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,400
taking a sharp, it's, it's in 
sharp decline, but really the 

884
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,640
entire state of California is in
in a lot of trouble there. 

885
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,840
So, but even when I even when I 
lived there, I'm trying to think

886
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:39,000
about the economy in 2010, 2011 
there, the homelessness was 

887
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,520
still an issue in San Francisco.
Because I remember I, I, I would

888
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,880
walk from our apartment to my 
old radio station and I would 

889
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,960
pass like I have to go like 
under or under an overpass, not 

890
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,840
on a highway, but just whatever.
And I would see, you know, a lot

891
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,400
of a lot of tents set up and a 
lot of homeless people. 

892
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,280
It's unfortunate. 
It's horrible. 

893
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,080
But yeah, I mean, I haven't been
there in a while. 

894
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,640
So the other thing that I that I
have learned to be fair is that 

895
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,760
it's not a political commentary,
but a lot of things that are 

896
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,160
said about certain areas, 
they're a little bit overstated.

897
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,520
Again, I'm not talking about, 
I'm not talking about how the 

898
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,360
cities run politically. 
And I'm not even talking about 

899
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,440
the the economics. 
Like California as a state is 

900
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,640
busted. 
Like it financially truly is 

901
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,840
busted, right? 
And in a lot of ways, so is New 

902
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,360
York. 
But I remember hearing when, you

903
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,360
know, when I found out we're 
going to San Diego for Saint 

904
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,560
John's. 
You know, San Diego, it's 

905
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,520
gorgeous, but man, homelessness 
everywhere. 

906
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,720
It's a mess. 
I was walking around, walked to 

907
00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:36,960
the Brazilian steakhouse. 
I walked around down to the 

908
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,000
Marina. 
I didn't really see. 

909
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,560
I didn't, you know, I didn't 
really see. 

910
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,640
I did see on the highway as we 
were, you know, taking the team 

911
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,080
bus to the arena, either for 
shoot around for practice or the

912
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,880
game and the game that had the 
police escort, which is always 

913
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,840
which is always cool. 
The the the California Highway 

914
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,360
look remember the old show chips
You you can't remember. 

915
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,760
I mean, I remember like either 
seeing like spoofs on it or 

916
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,880
seeing like maybe an intro or 
certain shot. 

917
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,080
No, I took ATV class where we 
watched an episode of it. 

918
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,880
Are you serious? 
100% yeah. 

919
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,240
We did like a whole run through 
like just history of TV and we 

920
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:14,080
watched chips. 
That actually sounds like a 

921
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,960
really cool course. 
It was cool. 

922
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,840
It was awesome. 
It was, it was with this guy Bob

923
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,320
Thompson. 
He's like a pretty, he does like

924
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:25,280
journalism, like on TV and stuff
like that. 

925
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,160
So he's a cool guy. 
The so so those guys who would 

926
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,760
give you the escort, they were 
wearing the, the, the, the chips

927
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,600
gear, like the big black gloves 
and the tan outfit, the 

928
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,160
sunglasses. 
It look like you want to mess 

929
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,440
around with these dudes. 
I used to love that show. 

930
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,640
I, I, Erik Estrada was on it. 
The other guy, he had Ponch and 

931
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:47,640
John and then you had the the 
police captain and I just love 

932
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,240
the music. 
Bam, Wham, bam, Wham, bam, Wham.

933
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:55,040
Like edited chips. 
God, those 70s and early, I 

934
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,120
guess that was that had to be 
the 80s because I wasn't 

935
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,880
watching in the 70s. 
Yeah, great show. 

936
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,440
It was, it was the 80s, right. 
So either way, you know, Yeah. 

937
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:03,880
I mean, I was just reacting to 
that comment. 

938
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,280
I I don't know. 
I mean, I know what I hear. 

939
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,400
I have not been to San Francisco
in a while, but the ballpark is 

940
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,520
phenomenal. 
It really is. 

941
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,320
It's just gorgeous restaurants 
and boating and and anything 

942
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,840
that you want. 
We actually rode our bike over 

943
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:16,720
the this. 
I would let you. 

944
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,440
I wouldn't do this if you paid 
me again, dude. 

945
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,720
So I really wouldn't. 
And I listen, you know, and I'm 

946
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:23,480
talking about if you paid me a 
lot of money, I'm not sure I 

947
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,960
would do this. 
We biked, we did it. 

948
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:27,800
One of the worst ideas I ever 
had. 

949
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,440
Oh, let's go. 
You know, we had just gotten 

950
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,280
married way before kids, all 
that stuff we tried married six 

951
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,480
months. 
Hey, let's go to there was some 

952
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:44,640
sort of boating sailboat 
competition like in the Marina 

953
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,680
that we went through, which is 
really cool like, you know, like

954
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,400
craft beers and food and like 
just awesome just a good day 

955
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,160
walking around Hey, what? 
Oh, there's tandem bikes. 

956
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,360
Let's let's take a tandem bike 
over the Golden Gate Bridge. 

957
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,640
Oh my gosh. 
Dude, it sounded like such a 

958
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,880
great idea. 
First of all, to even get out of

959
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,280
where I forget where we were, 
whatever park, not Warren Park, 

960
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,280
not Harding, wherever we were to
get out of the park, just to 

961
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,360
like get to the base of the 
bridge. 

962
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,680
It was, it was like climbing 
Mount Everest here and it would 

963
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,520
get tandem. 
You know, my wife's smaller but 

964
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,760
and she's she's a good athlete, 
but I feel like I'm doing all 

965
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,360
the work. 
And then we finally get when you

966
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,360
have you ever walked across any 
bridge, Brooke? 

967
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,920
Oh, I mean, I've walked, I've, 
I've had, I've made similar 

968
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,160
mistakes trying to bike over the
Williamsburg Bridge. 

969
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,280
OK, so you know what I'm saying.
Yeah, big time. 

970
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,440
The crown like oh this is easy. 
I remember when I was doing 

971
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:42,840
Boomers bike tour, the last 
stretch was getting over the 

972
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,200
crown of the Barrazzano. 
And I'm not ashamed to admit I 

973
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,040
got off my bike and I was 
walking for a little bit. 

974
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,880
I'm like, I'm fucking between 
the chafing in between my my and

975
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,320
I put. 
And he told me he's like, dude, 

976
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,640
put Vaseline on your legs and 
get the bike shorts with the 

977
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:56,920
pads. 
I'm like, God, I got you. 

978
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,120
I got you. 
I'm ready, I'm ready. 

979
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,440
I mean, I'm chafing everywhere, 
I'm sweating, I'm tired. 

980
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,000
I think it was 40. 
I get the metal over there. 

981
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,440
I think it was 45 mile 45 or 50 
miles, man. 

982
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,520
And I hadn't biked forever. 
And I remember the night before,

983
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:16,840
true story, the night before I 
was and I, I got, it's too long 

984
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,840
of a story to tell, but somebody
who used to listen to the fan 

985
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,560
that became a friend runs a bike
shop and I remember talking 

986
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,960
about it on the air. 
I might do this for Boomer. 

987
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,360
I might do this with Boomer, you
know, for his Cystic Fibrosis 

988
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,800
Foundation, which was great And 
but I'm like, I don't have a 

989
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:31,920
bike. 
I haven't ridden a bike. 

990
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,560
Well, anyway, this guy say, Hey,
I got you. 

991
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,040
So I actually need him. 
I, I buy him dinner, buy him a 

992
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,120
beer and he drops this sick bike
off. 

993
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,640
It had to be a $1500 bike, like 
legitimate bike man, right. 

994
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,920
And like one of those hybrids, 
not off road, not those little 

995
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,840
teeny tiny skinny tires like a 
man's bike dude. 

996
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:52,360
It was, it was, it was awesome. 
And, and I remember, I mean, I, 

997
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,120
I didn't, I didn't really train 
that much. 

998
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,440
I didn't, well, I took it like 
for a ride twice just to get 

999
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,520
used to it in the neighborhood, 
maybe a mile. 

1000
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,720
And then the night before, I'm 
in my backyard at the fire pit 

1001
00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:04,840
with a couple of guys from town 
that I'm buddies with. 

1002
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,920
And I had the bike tour the next
day and the, I think we had a 

1003
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,800
baseball game that night. 
I coached their kids and we're 

1004
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:11,840
good buddies. 
And we're sitting in the 

1005
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,120
backyard and I'm like, yeah, I 
have a beer, whatever. 

1006
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:16,640
And before, you know, it's like 
11:00. 

1007
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,120
It's still having a good vibe. 
I don't really want to go in 

1008
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,120
it's 12 O clock, it's 12:30. 
I'm like they're like, you could

1009
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,600
actually do this bike toward 
them. 

1010
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:24,960
I'm like, yeah, I could do it. 
I could do it. 

1011
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,440
So anyway, the crown of a bridge
is absolutely brutal. 

1012
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,120
So I admittedly couldn't finish 
it, although I finished the 

1013
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,920
race. 
I walked the rest of the way for

1014
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,040
boomers thing. 
But when we did this with the 

1015
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:40,280
Golden Gate Bridge, it was crazy
dude, because it was so hard. 

1016
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,480
It really was maybe just I'm 
maybe I'm just a wuss on a bike.

1017
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,960
I don't pretend to be a great 
bike right, I get that, but it 

1018
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,800
was really physically exerting. 
But the good part about him, 

1019
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,000
once you you actually got to the
crown and for those of you who 

1020
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,680
know the Golden Gate and know 
the surrounding areas of of the 

1021
00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:00,320
Bay Area, you coast all the way 
down into Sausalito, which is a 

1022
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,600
beautiful town, water 
restaurants. 

1023
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,360
So we just coasted literally 
didn't even have to pedal. 

1024
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,400
We were in neutral the whole way
and we just wound up putting the

1025
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,160
bikes on the side, sat outside, 
had a nice dinner and then we 

1026
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,360
ubered it back. 
I'm like there's. 

1027
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,440
No. 
I'm going back over that bridge 

1028
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,720
so the Yankees get off to a good
start. 

1029
00:50:17,720 --> 00:50:20,240
Happy about that. 
Stadium look great whatever the 

1030
00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:22,400
pregame postgame theatrics, they
are what they are. 

1031
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:23,800
You kind of knew it was coming 
with Netflix. 

1032
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,520
You didn't think that they would
have some benign presentation. 

1033
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,880
It's Netflix man and if you're 
baseball is part of the deal 

1034
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,560
that you have to make to keep 
making money. 

1035
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,920
You almost have to swallow hard 
if you're if you're if you're 

1036
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:36,680
like if my dad's watch, I don't 
even I don't even know if my dad

1037
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,440
was able to. 
I know that they have Netflix, 

1038
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,920
but I don't even know if he 
watched the game like if my mom 

1039
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,760
was out, he didn't watch the 
game because I don't know if he 

1040
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,040
knows how to get on Netflix. 
So if you're if you're the older

1041
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:50,520
generation, you know, and even 
if you did watch it, then you're

1042
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,400
probably sitting there saying, 
all right, what a hokey 

1043
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,160
presentation. 
This is just bullshit. 

1044
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,800
Come up, give me the game. 
But you know, I think if you're 

1045
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,480
a little younger than that, you 
accept it for what it is. 

1046
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,800
And it's the growing, it's the 
new business model. 

1047
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,960
So all good. 
I'm not going to complain just 

1048
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,680
to complain. 
So the Yankees did look good. 

1049
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,840
Jay, get a bunch of texts up 
there about that about the 

1050
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,080
Yankees. 
I want to get into something I 

1051
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,760
saw on Ty Simpson, which I think
is very interesting. 

1052
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,760
I want to read this one first. 
All right, BT what else do you 

1053
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,520
want to who else do you want to 
hit lead off? 

1054
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,200
Let's see. 
Yeah, Grishit lead off for the 

1055
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:21,960
majority of the year. 
And they had the best office in 

1056
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,320
baseball. 
Austin Rice, SFG. 

1057
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,600
All right, that's I mean, yeah, 
I get that part. 

1058
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,800
I just don't think he's a 
conventional lead off hitter. 

1059
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,360
You know, he's you know, he's I 
don't know, there's just 

1060
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,120
something about him that I I 
just he doesn't profile to me as

1061
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,040
a lead off man, you know, 34 
home runs. 

1062
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,080
I know the OPS was good. 
He's going to run into a bunch 

1063
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,360
of balls this year. 
He's he's a fine center fielder.

1064
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,960
But I wanted a guy like Grisham.
Put it this way, when the 

1065
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,800
Yankees were winning World 
Series after World Series, would

1066
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,640
you had a guy like Trent Grisham
leading off? 

1067
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,600
The answer is no. 
And like, to me, that is 

1068
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,160
emblematic of not the demise of 
the Yankees, because that's 

1069
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,080
ridiculous, because the Yankees 
are still really good. 

1070
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:01,360
But the evolution, that's not a 
compliment of the Yankees. 

1071
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,120
Like, I don't want him batting 
first. 

1072
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,480
And you know, I've told you this
every time it comes up. 

1073
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,680
Boone has his booty called me 
yesterday, by the way. 

1074
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,280
I was talking to booty before 
the game. 

1075
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,400
He was checking in. 
He's going to come on the show. 

1076
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,360
I don't know when soon. 
He's like, let me just get a 

1077
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,200
couple of games under our belt 
so we'll have something to talk 

1078
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:17,280
about. 
I'm like, oh, good, I got you. 

1079
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,840
He was just going to check in. 
I think he was going to check in

1080
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,000
to see what I went. 
What the fuck happened with Gio?

1081
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,360
I think, you know, he's like, 
what's going on over there? 

1082
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:25,880
But what am I missing? 
I'm like, not much. 

1083
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,960
He didn't miss much, man, that's
for sure. 

1084
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:34,200
So anyway, the, the, the, the 
lead off spot to me. 

1085
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,600
And it's not just subscribing to
an old antiquated philosophy. 

1086
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,600
I don't need you to to be a 
speed merchant. 

1087
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,720
I don't need you to run a 644, 
you know, 460 and be that kind 

1088
00:52:45,720 --> 00:52:47,160
of a lead off man. 
I don't, I don't need you to be 

1089
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,600
a Punch and Judy guy, But I 
just, I just need somebody that 

1090
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:55,480
I feel like against a good 
pitcher, like a late game high 

1091
00:52:55,480 --> 00:53:00,080
leverage flamethrower, you know,
elite closer, elite set up, man.

1092
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,880
I just, I mean, I can lean on 
numbers. 

1093
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,600
That's the easy thing. 
But the eye test, I look at 

1094
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,720
Trent Grisham and I feel like 
his is that bats aren't quality 

1095
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,320
enough for me to be a lead off 
hitter. 

1096
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,760
I don't want Trent Grisham 
getting in the way. 

1097
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,440
Here's really my main gripe here
to answer it more directly. 

1098
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,240
My main gripe is I don't want 
him being the bridge and also 

1099
00:53:21,240 --> 00:53:25,760
being a deterrent in in those 
situations to getting the bat or

1100
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,400
passing the baton to Aaron 
Judge. 

1101
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,000
That's really what it comes down
to. 

1102
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,200
I mean, think really guys, think
about it's also a million years 

1103
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:36,600
ago, but think about like those 
77 and 78 Yankee championship 

1104
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:37,640
teams. 
Who was the lead off man? 

1105
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,400
What was Mickey Rivers? 
Totally different game and I 

1106
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,760
don't even really ever remember 
Mickey playing. 

1107
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,720
I just missed that that Yankee 
era. 

1108
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,520
I knew he ran like the wind. 
They had a higher batting 

1109
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,600
average than you would probably 
think if you actually looked at 

1110
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,880
the stats. 
But you know, it was a you were 

1111
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,040
able then to get to Reggie and 
those guys, Thurman, etcetera, 

1112
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,360
right, Greg Metals, you know, 
and then obviously much more my 

1113
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,400
generation. 
Well, I mean, in the 80s you had

1114
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,120
Ricky Henderson for five years, 
4 1/2 years with the Yankees. 

1115
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,480
And then you had Derek Jeter and
you had Nobby and you had like 

1116
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,840
Soriano a little bit. 
But it's just it's they've 

1117
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:12,240
gotten further and further and 
further and further away from, 

1118
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,720
you know, my ideal lead off 
hitter. 

1119
00:54:15,720 --> 00:54:20,560
Now, if Jazz had a little bit 
more of a discerning eye and 

1120
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,520
wasn't always swinging for the 
fences and had a little bit 

1121
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,120
better contact rate, then I'd 
say he'd be perfect. 

1122
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,360
Because he does fly and he can. 
I mean, he he's got easy power 

1123
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:31,760
as well. 
Like he doesn't hit cheapies 

1124
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,680
when he hits him, he hits him. 
He's got that wiry strength, you

1125
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:38,680
know, that explosive very, you 
know, very fluid, fast, quick 

1126
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,400
bat boom. 
So I mean, he profiled great, 

1127
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:42,680
but he just strikes out a little
bit too much. 

1128
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:47,040
So that's my answer. 
You know, I think Lindor's a 

1129
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,640
better Lido fitter, you know, 
and, and I think there's other 

1130
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,400
better Lido fitters like I would
love, I would have loved for the

1131
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,800
Yankees to have gotten say they 
would have gotten Bichette. 

1132
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,440
Well, now you got another righty
hitter and now all of a sudden 

1133
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:04,720
you go, all right, let's go one,
let's go Bichette who's clutch 

1134
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,360
on base, All those numbers that 
you know, especially if you're a

1135
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:11,400
Met fan or Toronto Blue Jay fan.
So so somebody like Bichette in 

1136
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,440
the leadoff hole, then you get 
judge #2 then you get bellinger 

1137
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,840
#3 and then you get Rice, who 
was batting 4th last night. 

1138
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,800
Obviously that's righty. 
So maybe against the left, you 

1139
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,160
put Stanton in the four spot 
that there's some wiggle room 

1140
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,480
there and then you put Stanton 
5. 

1141
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,560
So I that that to me is much 
more my preference. 

1142
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,920
But they didn't do that. 
Even if they would have gotten 

1143
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,800
somebody like Kyle Tucker, I 
would have preferred somebody 

1144
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,120
like Kyle Tucker as a leader. 
I just think those guys are 

1145
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:38,640
better than Grisham, period. 
All right, Avery Summit notice 

1146
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:42,080
after when Caballero lost the 
challenge on the next pitch, the

1147
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,600
I'm called and Abby's ball to 
strike. 

1148
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,800
They're humans too. 
It'll be interesting to see how 

1149
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,280
they respond to being showed up 
in front of 40,000. 

1150
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:49,760
Oh, this is their worst 
nightmare. 

1151
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,880
Oh my God, are you kidding me? 
I mean, it's their absolute 

1152
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,080
worst nightmare. 
Think about this, right? 

1153
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,800
I'll give you a good example. 
I'll personalize it for a 

1154
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:02,560
minute. 
So everything is presentable now

1155
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,720
in in a way that that it that it
just was not presentable that 

1156
00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:10,600
forever. 
So if you're an umpire, well, or

1157
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:15,280
an NBA ref or an NFL ref and 
Cole's reversed, I mean, all 

1158
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:16,640
right. 
I mean, if it's an egregious 

1159
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,920
miss, you're going to lose some 
respect with the league office 

1160
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,000
when they grade you, which will 
determine who does the playoff 

1161
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,520
games, who does the World 
Series, who does the Super Bowl.

1162
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,160
I mean, that's all graded out. 
If you don't grade out well, you

1163
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,760
don't get those, those late 
season responsibilities, which 

1164
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,480
is which is good. 
So there is at least some 

1165
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,840
accountability there. 
And I would imagine if you grade

1166
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,960
out, you know, too poorly for 
too long, eventually you're 

1167
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,400
going to disappear, kind of 
disappear, right? 

1168
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,160
So now it's like as soon as 
there's a bad call, bang right 

1169
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,720
on social media, everybody sees 
it, everybody weighs in. 

1170
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,080
And to personalize it. 
A good example is this nonsense 

1171
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:50,680
that's been going on this week 
with me and Greg. 

1172
00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:53,600
Think about it so back and and I
know that Mike like I don't 

1173
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,160
Mike, I don't I don't think that
Mike ever, you know, engaged in 

1174
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,800
these kind of radio beeps or 
whatever radio, whatever you 

1175
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,240
want to call it. 
But like, say if he did right, 

1176
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:07,920
you know, in 1993 or 1994, all 
right, maybe Raisman would write

1177
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,080
about it, but the whole world 
wouldn't jump in and have an 

1178
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,640
opinion and just continue. 
You know, it wouldn't be a three

1179
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,720
day story, which is what this 
nonsense turned into with me and

1180
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,160
Greg. 
You know who, by the way, did 

1181
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,280
turn down the invitation to come
on the show? 

1182
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:21,920
He said it was funny what he 
said too. 

1183
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,160
He's like, yeah. 
He's like, I don't I don't want 

1184
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,320
the ratings to to go down. 
First of all, problem. 

1185
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,040
And the ratings are good. 
So I'm not just going to say 

1186
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,480
stuff that's that's not 
accurate. 

1187
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:31,800
The ratings are very good on the
show. 

1188
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,400
But I promise you, if I actually
came in studio, it will be the 

1189
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:35,680
highest rated segment of the 
week. 

1190
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,360
So that would be good for you. 
The bad thing is you would lose.

1191
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,480
So, so I understand why you 
don't want to do that. 

1192
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,440
I do get that part. 
But like things like that, they 

1193
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,920
just go on forever. 
They go on forever. 

1194
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,600
And then, you know, eventually 
they dissipate. 

1195
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:53,080
Like this one's dissipating now 
and you know, and then there's 

1196
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,720
the next little flare up that or
the next little story, the next 

1197
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,200
Miss cold, the next egregious 
botch of whatever. 

1198
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,400
So I, I think, yeah, they're 
they're going to be very 

1199
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,440
sensitive to it. 
And there's less to argue about.

1200
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,760
And, and that's the one of the 
things that I don't like about 

1201
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,760
this. 
And I know we've gotten further 

1202
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,880
and further away from this. 
Like, what was the last time you

1203
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,960
saw a manager like RIP a base 
out of out of the field? 

1204
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,560
And like, I think the last time 
I saw that was McClendon from 

1205
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,160
the Pirates. 
I think he did that a long time 

1206
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,680
ago or like Wally Bachman, if 
you ever saw that video when he 

1207
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,040
was in the minors code to 
managing the minors, throwing 

1208
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,760
Batsa on the field and balls and
going absolutely bonkers, which 

1209
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,720
was a Wally bag. 
That stuff's funny. 

1210
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,120
That's some old YouTube stuff 
that you guys can go and really 

1211
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:36,440
enjoy, you know, But now, I 
mean, Boone will have moments 

1212
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,640
where he he obviously flips out 
here. 

1213
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:43,400
But when Boone flips out, it's 
usually at an egregious goal, 

1214
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,760
you know, low in the zone to 
judge or up and they call the 

1215
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,080
strike and you know, I mean, 
we're savages, you know, that's 

1216
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:53,880
the whole origin of that. 
And when there's nothing to 

1217
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:58,240
really challenge anymore, like 
if there's a play at first base 

1218
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,920
outer safety, you're never going
to see a manager run out 

1219
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,320
because, alright, let's, let's 
review it. 

1220
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,120
Look good. 
Uh oh, he missed it. 

1221
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,200
Let's go review it. 
Then they then they get it right

1222
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:07,960
or they don't. 
And most times they get it right

1223
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,200
when they do review. 
So, you know, that is what it 

1224
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,800
is. 
But I, I think that like 

1225
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,600
anything that's new, you'll get 
used to it and then it'll be 

1226
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,760
baked into your, your viewing 
pleasure, if you will. 

1227
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,040
And it'll, you'll become almost 
desensitized to it, you know, 

1228
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,520
like it, think about this, like 
when the pitch clock was first 

1229
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,880
introduced, yeah, there was a 
lot of resistance and there was 

1230
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,320
a lot of, you know, feedback and
the disengagements from the, 

1231
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,280
from the rubber, you know, 
twice. 

1232
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,320
If you do it twice, then you 
have to throw over whatever, you

1233
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:45,200
know, all right, I get it. 
So, and, and I understood like I

1234
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,080
could, I could see why people 
would have an issue with it. 

1235
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:48,960
And, and I remember talking 
about that a lot too. 

1236
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,960
But like in 10 years or even 
really now, it's not even that 

1237
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,080
much of an issue. 
So each year, the energy and the

1238
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,680
attention that it's given, it 
just dissipates and it's less 

1239
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,760
and less and less of a story. 
So as things change, even if 

1240
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,360
there's initial resistance. 
It just seems like, God, why is 

1241
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,200
baseball doing this Or God, 
that's a weird thing for the NFL

1242
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:12,240
as new fans watch it. 
That's all they know as they as 

1243
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,440
they age and they, you know, 
they grow with the sport. 

1244
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,480
And the older ones, you know, 
the older fans just sit there 

1245
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,680
and say that man is what it is. 
Let's go. 

1246
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,200
Maybe even after the initial 
resistance. 

1247
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,640
So all right, let me give you a 
little something on Ty Simpson 

1248
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,840
here. 
Ty Simpson. 

1249
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:34,160
It's going to be interesting. 
So Ty Simpson tomorrow has a 

1250
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,200
private workout with The Jets, 
right? 

1251
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,200
This is not just about The Jets.
This is about, I got 5 things, 

1252
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,280
five teams that that could draft
Ty Simpson. 

1253
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,680
There's always an outlier, but I
think it will be one of these 

1254
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,680
five teams. 
Now they're having dinner 

1255
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,040
tonight. 
He did throw out the combine. 

1256
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:49,920
We know that. 
So he showed off his talents to 

1257
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,120
the evaluators there. 
But he's also, he did the pro 

1258
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,920
day yesterday, Alabama. 
So I like the fact that he's 

1259
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,240
embracing being being judged and
being analyzed. 

1260
01:00:58,240 --> 01:00:59,840
I think that that's a good 
thing, right? 

1261
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,240
And then tonight they'll have 
dinner. 

1262
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,320
Mooji's going to be there. 
Glenn's going to be there. 

1263
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,000
Frank Reich will be there. 
Their quarterbacks coach Bill 

1264
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,800
Musgrave will be there. 
So the entire Jets contingent is

1265
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,800
going to sit down tonight with 
Ty Simpson. 

1266
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,800
And he said a couple of things, 
like I think Jake was the one 

1267
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,800
who asked him if Jake has been 
my one of my Co host on the the 

1268
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,280
jet on the jet selected that we 
just started, which by the way, 

1269
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,160
is off to a really good start. 
It's on my YouTube page. 

1270
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,640
Obviously go down. 
You'll see the collaborations. 

1271
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,800
So there's a couple of segments.
We hit Gino, we hit Aaron Glenn,

1272
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,200
we hit Muji, we hit the revamp 
defense. 

1273
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,080
That was Tuesday night episode 
1. 

1274
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,560
We'll do it once a week, every 
Tuesday if you have the banner J

1275
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,480
Rod, if you have that ready, if 
you want to pop that up, if you 

1276
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,920
can, if not, it's not a big 
deal, but you could go down and 

1277
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:43,960
by all means like it, subscribe 
it, check it out. 

1278
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:44,720
There you go. 
Thank you. 

1279
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,920
So this was I'll be a couple of 
days old here. 

1280
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,040
So Tuesday was the first one and
it's live on YouTube, all the 

1281
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,200
all the other podcasting 
platforms. 

1282
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,560
It's officially up on Spotify 
and Apple. 

1283
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,880
It's myself, it's Jacob, Rich 
Samini, it's a great crew 

1284
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,000
through The Jets collective 
every week. 

1285
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,640
We'll do it for, you know, the 
whole year, right? 

1286
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:03,160
It's like we'll take any time 
off. 

1287
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,880
We'll just lead into the draft 
and into OTAs and into training 

1288
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,840
camp and into the season and 
probably start going live after 

1289
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:13,920
games, all that stuff, right? 
But the the, the, the 

1290
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,360
conversation the other night on 
that show was interesting 

1291
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,680
because I was only the one, I 
was really the one that was 

1292
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,400
somewhat OK with Ty Simpson 
being drafted by The Jets. 

1293
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,320
But Jake did say to him at the 
combine. 

1294
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,720
Whatever Jake asked him and Ty 
Simpson, like the sound bite was

1295
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,240
something like I'd love to be a 
Jet, which is something nobody 

1296
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,160
says, right? 
Of course you're going to say it

1297
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,000
because you know, you know that 
The Jets need a quarterback. 

1298
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,480
You know, they've got a couple 
of first round picks and why 

1299
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:39,840
wouldn't you say it's good for 
business? 

1300
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:43,080
And then, but then I also saw 
something where, you know, he 

1301
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:47,520
was talking about, how about the
Browns possibly drafting him and

1302
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,160
his dad. 
His dad's a college football 

1303
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,360
coach for the UT Martin, I 
believe University of Tennessee 

1304
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,880
Martin, for those of you don't 
know, he is a coach, his son, 

1305
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,040
which I like. 
So is Chad Pennington from an 

1306
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,520
intelligence point of view. 
I'm like a processing of the 

1307
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:00,520
game. 
I do like that. 

1308
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,560
Not that it means you're going 
to be a star, but I but I do 

1309
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,160
like it. 
You're a student of the game. 

1310
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:09,760
So Ty Simpson's dad is friendly 
with somebody on the Brown 

1311
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,960
staff. 
So he was asked about that. 

1312
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:13,880
He's like, oh, it will be an 
honor, a dream to play for the 

1313
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:15,640
Browns. 
So basically anytime anybody 

1314
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,200
asks them from one of these 
teams that needs a quarterback, 

1315
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,080
he gives a very favorable 
review. 

1316
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:26,520
OK, got it. 
So Ty Simpson is is guy now. 

1317
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,720
Dan Orlovsky had a pretty 
interesting take. 

1318
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,240
Said he thinks he's better than 
Mendoza. 

1319
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,040
And now there's some people who 
think I saw an article on this. 

1320
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:34,680
I don't know if it was awful 
announcing. 

1321
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:39,120
I know who had it it it was a 
question, but it was like, is 

1322
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,040
Dan Orlovsky now turning to the 
world of hot takes? 

1323
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,000
I I don't, I don't necessarily 
think that that's a hot take 

1324
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,160
because I really do like 
Fernando Mendoza. 

1325
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,840
But to think that he's, you 
know, John Elway and beyond 

1326
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,160
reproach to being, you know, 
based on the subjective 

1327
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,720
evaluation of film, I think it's
ridiculous. 

1328
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,080
And I also don't think that 
Orlovsky's a hot take guy. 

1329
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,520
I think he's I think he's I 
think he wants to be a coach 

1330
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:01,640
someday. 
I really do. 

1331
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:03,720
And he's kind of flirted with 
that. 

1332
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,240
If you remember some of the 
stories. 

1333
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:09,320
Was it Detroit either way, not 
Detroit somewhere some team was 

1334
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,760
thinking about maybe hiring him 
two or three years ago. 

1335
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,280
I think eventually he probably 
gets into that maybe. 

1336
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,040
So I don't think he's a hot take
guy. 

1337
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,080
I think he watched the film, 
likes what he sees. 

1338
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:22,120
But also, I think it's it's also
part of the notion is, is that 

1339
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:28,440
Mendoza is good, but, you know, 
flawed to to for some, some 

1340
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,560
people think he's great, but 
it's also a by product of being 

1341
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:36,480
just lucky in terms of timing 
where there's just not many good

1342
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,080
quarterback prospects out there,
right? 

1343
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,000
So listen, here's what you got 
to know about Ty Simpson, All 

1344
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,000
right? 
You know, and I've told you 

1345
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,640
about this where Alabama 
couldn't run the football and he

1346
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,560
was put in a position where, you
know, he had to throw a lot and 

1347
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:50,960
behind the sticks quite a bit 
when they tried to run early. 

1348
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,760
You know, he got, he had 
gastritis and he lost about 20 

1349
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,160
lbs and he's not that one of the
I wish he was a little bit 

1350
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:59,200
bigger. 
To be fair, he measured in a 

1351
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:03,160
tick below 6 two and 200 
something like 2O2. 

1352
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,320
Like, you know, that's kind of 
like Zach Wilson. 

1353
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,600
You know, I, I, I like to see my
quarterback at least, you know, 

1354
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:12,200
63, you know, 220 at least the 
night that you get drafted. 

1355
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,120
And then maybe when it's all 
said and done, you 63230, you 

1356
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:18,320
know, as you tack on some some 
some grown man weight over the 

1357
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,400
years as you're getting past 
your mid 20s and into your late 

1358
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,080
20s. 
So I don't think Todd Simpson 

1359
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,840
going to necessarily have that, 
but he did lose a lot of weight 

1360
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:28,680
and he did really have a a 
pretty weak cast of amazingly 

1361
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,200
saying this of talent around him
in Alabama. 

1362
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,040
Now who could actually draft 
him? 

1363
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,720
I mean, the answer is obviously 
anybody like if you're a team 

1364
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,280
that's got a great quarterback 
situation and you don't have a 

1365
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:44,160
real pressing need to address 
another situation early in the 

1366
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:47,480
draft, You know, like the Chiefs
did with with when they had Alex

1367
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,920
Smith, who was pretty good, not 
great, but good, good enough. 

1368
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,120
110 games, a lot there for Andy 
Reid. 

1369
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,080
I mean, I think it was 3/3, 
maybe even 11. 

1370
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,560
I think you have three years in 
a row where he won double figure

1371
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:57,760
games. 
Alex Smith was fine. 

1372
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,120
He was good, you know, good at 
the end with Jim Horborn and 

1373
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,320
very good for Andy Reid. 
So you never know, they could be

1374
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,640
a surprise team that jumps into 
the the upper part of the draft 

1375
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,640
and maybe takes in. 
I think it's going to come down 

1376
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,120
to these five teams, The Jets, 
the Cardinals, the Rams, the 

1377
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,040
Browns and the Steelers, right? 
So as we know, The Jets have the

1378
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,080
number 2. 
They're not taking them there. 

1379
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,200
The Jets have the number 16 
possible get back to that. 

1380
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,240
And they've also got the number 
33. 

1381
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:26,600
Very possible either a 33 or 
using 33 to trade into the back 

1382
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,240
end of the first round and doing
like something like the Giants 

1383
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,240
did with Jackson Dart moving up 
a few spots. 

1384
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,200
That would be I would say I 
think I would think that that 

1385
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,240
would be advisable because I 
like Ty Simpson more than most 

1386
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:41,880
but whatever the Cardinals all 
right and these are all I 

1387
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:45,240
actually put these in the odds. 
There's actually odds on what 

1388
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,200
team's going to draft. 
Let me give you that first here.

1389
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:51,560
So in order Jets are plus 140 
shortest odds along with the 

1390
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:54,240
Cardinals at plus 140. 
Then you got the Rams 

1391
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:58,800
interesting Stafford's age that 
situation, OK, they're the third

1392
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:02,440
shortest odds at +400. 
Then the Browns with Shadour and

1393
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,600
brothers right at plus 650. 
Then you've got the Steelers 

1394
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:09,120
little wild card at plus 750. 
Now told you about the The Jets 

1395
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,480
draft equity. 
The Cardinals have the third 

1396
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:12,840
overall pick, right behind The 
Jets. 

1397
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,440
They're not taking them there. 
They've also got the 34th. 

1398
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,720
So basically, The Jets and the 
Cardinals are in the same spot. 

1399
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:19,760
Jets have two, Cardinals have 
three. 

1400
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:23,440
Jets have 33, Cardinals have 34.
All right, now we get to the 

1401
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,520
Rams, then we get to the Browns,
who are #6 they're not taking 

1402
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:30,560
them there and #24 maybe. 
And then you get to the Steelers

1403
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:34,920
at #21 maybe all right, right. 
So to me, and he's already met 

1404
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:36,880
with the, the Rams have the 13th
pick. 

1405
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:40,120
I should have said this before. 
He's already met with the Rams. 

1406
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,920
And as I said, he's meeting with
The Jets dinner tonight, thrown 

1407
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,880
for thrown for The Jets tomorrow
for their entire contingent. 

1408
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:49,840
Now, the one thing that I don't 
get, and we did talk about this 

1409
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,160
on the Jet Collective the other 
night where, you know, and Rich 

1410
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,400
was saying this and and Jake was
pretty much more in alignment 

1411
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,080
with Rich than with me. 
Like if you're going to take a 

1412
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:03,760
quarterback 33 or 34, you're 
obviously taking that 

1413
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:07,200
quarterback because you 
eventually view him as a 

1414
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,080
starter. 
Like you're not, it's not like 

1415
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,920
taking a flyer on a guy in round
four like Bryce Petty or you 

1416
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,400
know, somebody like that, right?
It's a totally different 

1417
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:16,880
profile. 
You're if you draft a 

1418
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:20,760
quarterback early in Round 2, 
like Drew Brees got drafted 

1419
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,640
first pick around 2 back in the 
day by the Dolphins, somebody 

1420
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,479
like that, you are going to play
that guy eventually going to 

1421
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,399
give a chance to play. 
So if that's the, if that's the 

1422
01:08:29,399 --> 01:08:32,920
philosophy, which it obviously 
is, then why wouldn't you just 

1423
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:37,880
say, all right, I've got 33, 
I've got 30-4, I've got 35. 

1424
01:08:38,399 --> 01:08:41,960
I don't know for sure that Ty 
Simpson is going to be there at 

1425
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,439
333435, which by the way, I 
don't think he is. 

1426
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,960
I'll tell you why in a minute. 
I think he's a guaranteed lock 

1427
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:48,920
first round pick. 
So you're going to have to be 

1428
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:52,200
proactive and jump in front of a
couple of teams and really read 

1429
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:56,399
the draft board perfectly to 
make sure that you get in front 

1430
01:08:56,399 --> 01:08:59,200
of any team that you think could
jump you by jumping into the 

1431
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,359
back end of the first round. 
If, by the way, The Jets don't 

1432
01:09:01,359 --> 01:09:03,439
take him at 16. 
But there's see, there's two 

1433
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,840
different things there. 
There's actually drafting the 

1434
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,600
player and I'm talking about Ty 
Simpson now, but there's also 

1435
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:12,720
the the philosophy and I just I,
I I'm really I don't get it's 

1436
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:16,600
confounding to me where if you 
think highly enough of a player 

1437
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,920
to take him early in round two, 
why wouldn't you be proactive 

1438
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:23,040
screwed into round one and then 
have the extra fifth year of 

1439
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,479
evaluation and controllability 
like the Ravens did with Lamar 

1440
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:27,880
Jackson? 
I don't I don't know why you 

1441
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:29,840
wouldn't do it now. 
You got to be right. 

1442
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,640
You got to really like him. 
Like if you're on the and the 

1443
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:36,200
Ravens, obviously labs and Ozzie
knew something great gift as he 

1444
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:39,399
left the building. 
That was a great read and a 

1445
01:09:39,399 --> 01:09:41,120
great, great move. 
And that's one of the reasons 

1446
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,479
why the Ravens are the Ravens. 
And this is one of the reasons 

1447
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,200
why The Jets are The Jets and 
the Cardinals are the Cardinals 

1448
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,200
and the Browns are the Browns. 
And all the other teams that 

1449
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:51,520
stink are the teams that stink 
and the teams that are really 

1450
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,920
good and are proactive and 
smart. 

1451
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:56,400
That's, that's one of the 
separating factors. 

1452
01:09:56,400 --> 01:10:00,360
Like it's not just that they 
obviously have better players or

1453
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:01,920
they have a franchise 
quarterback. 

1454
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:05,240
What did they do to put 
themselves in a position to get 

1455
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,200
the franchise quarterback like 
that? 

1456
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,560
I, I, I almost feel like the 
evaluation of some of these bad 

1457
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,680
teams kind of misses the mark. 
You know what I mean? 

1458
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,320
Like this team's not good. 
No shit they're not good. 

1459
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:19,040
Because your general manager 
didn't see what another general 

1460
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:23,840
manager saw that gave that other
general manager the confidence 

1461
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:27,560
to leapfrog five teams out of 
fear of them taking a player 

1462
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,480
that he really coveted. 
Him doing it, being aggressive 

1463
01:10:30,480 --> 01:10:33,360
and proactive and then doing it 
and then being, you know, 

1464
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,320
confirmed right and validated by
doing that move. 

1465
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:40,000
So I it's just, it's to me, 
it's, it's, it's like crossing 

1466
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:43,400
wires, man. 
Like, I don't get that I'm ever 

1467
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,200
pushing back. 
I think it was more with Rich 

1468
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:52,840
where if you are, if you are 
more than OK, we're taking Ty 

1469
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:56,120
Simpson early in Round 2. 
I just, if anybody can explain 

1470
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,920
this to me, by all means try to 
I'm I'm like, I'm open minded. 

1471
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,840
I just, I don't get it. 
Like that's been a tried and 

1472
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:03,960
true philosophy of mine for a 
long time. 

1473
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,000
I you know what? 
They just screwed up 7 spots and

1474
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:08,560
get him, get him in the freaking
building. 

1475
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:16,320
Now I will say this all right, 
the jet situ and the Browns, but

1476
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,520
at least your door played. 
I mean, I don't I don't think 

1477
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,880
he's that good, but at least he 
got already got on the field 

1478
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,400
right. 
One of the differences with The 

1479
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,040
Jets taking time. 
I think Jake was saying this and

1480
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,680
I do agree with this. 
Like if you take Ty Simpson in 

1481
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:31,720
round two, if he falls to round 
two, which again, I don't think 

1482
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,000
he will a matter of fact he 
won't and I'll tell you why in a

1483
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:37,200
minute. 
But just perceptually, like the 

1484
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:42,360
energy around a quarterback 
drafted 34th or 37th in Round 2,

1485
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:47,800
going to a downtrodden, you 
know, morbid situation is 

1486
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:51,680
different than moving up into 
the first round to get that same

1487
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:55,240
player. 
And then eventually your fans 

1488
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:56,920
are going to be like, I want to 
see this player. 

1489
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:59,320
Not that they wouldn't want to 
see Ty Simpson play if he was 

1490
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,600
drafted around 2:00. 
But there's going to be more 

1491
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,920
energy around by just more 
calling for it. 

1492
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:07,560
More talk on the radio, more 
talk on the pods, more, more 

1493
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,960
digital traction. 
Like, let's go, Hey, Gino threw 

1494
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,360
2 picks last night. 
Jets are one and four. 

1495
01:12:13,480 --> 01:12:15,120
You know, let's it's time for Ty
Simpson. 

1496
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:17,880
I think there'd be, I think 
maybe I shouldn't even say this 

1497
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:19,080
with the Jet fan. 
You never know. 

1498
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:25,000
I think that Prudence would 
probably win out a little bit 

1499
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,680
more if it was a second round 
pick because then it's like, all

1500
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:30,720
right, they didn't burn a first 
round pick on this guy. 

1501
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:34,680
They at #2 they took defense at 
#16 they took a receiver or they

1502
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:36,960
went defense, defense and 
whatever they did. 

1503
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:38,720
All right. 
Those guys are playing opening 

1504
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:40,840
day Week 1. 
All right, we can wait Ty 

1505
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:42,960
Simpson round two. 
But if if if Ty Simpson goes 

1506
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,840
one, there's going to be 
internal pressure with, you 

1507
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,840
know, from the fans putting that
pressure on The Jets and also 

1508
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:53,160
internal pressure to develop him
and show people that they did 

1509
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,960
the right thing that their their
swing was the right one. 

1510
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:03,720
And that can kind of that lack 
of of well, I think what that 

1511
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:07,000
would do that would probably 
lead to rushing things because 

1512
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,960
the clarity would be skewed. 
And when you're not thinking 

1513
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:13,160
clearly and you're listening to 
the noise, generally you're a 

1514
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,640
little hasty. 
And you not all the time, 

1515
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:19,960
usually decisions that are wrong
are made out of either 

1516
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,600
obviously, you know, just not 
knowing what the hell you doing 

1517
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,000
or being a little bit overly 
hasty. 

1518
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:27,160
Let's get him in there. 
We know he's not really ready, 

1519
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:28,880
but God, these fans just won't 
shut up. 

1520
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:30,400
All right, let's throw him a 
piece of meat. 

1521
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,360
All right, Ty Simpson starting 
Week 7, even if he's not ready. 

1522
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:35,920
And then that just makes a bad 
situation worse. 

1523
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:37,600
And then around and around we 
go. 

1524
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,560
Now here's why Ty Simpson is 
going to absolutely get wrapped 

1525
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:42,840
in the first round because 
there's nobody else. 

1526
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:48,520
And you know, if you have if you
have an average quarterback, you

1527
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:50,800
don't have a quarterback because
nobody's winning a championship 

1528
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:52,040
with an average quarterback, 
right? 

1529
01:13:52,480 --> 01:13:57,040
So the pursuit to land your 
franchise quarterback is the 

1530
01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:02,560
most, it's the most pressurized 
aspect of any decision of any 

1531
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,120
general manager and owner. 
You know, if he's the kind of 

1532
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,840
guy who gets his hands in the 
football stuff, you know, like 

1533
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:09,160
Mara a little bit for the 
Giants. 

1534
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,280
Woody's just sloppy. 
I'm not even count Woody, the 

1535
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,400
Ravens owners, you know, 
Bashati's a little bit involved,

1536
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,920
whatever. 
And and obviously, if you have a

1537
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,120
coach that you really believe in
and he's got a little juice in 

1538
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:23,200
the war room, it it's it's going
to it's going to lead to an 

1539
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:26,040
acceleration of of probably what
you what you might not be ready 

1540
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:27,960
to do. 
Because if you don't have one, 

1541
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,000
well, you're not going to win. 
And if you don't win, job 

1542
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:31,960
security is obviously going to 
diminish very fast. 

1543
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:34,920
It's going to go away. 
So if there were, listen, if 

1544
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:37,240
there were two or three other 
quarterbacks and going into the 

1545
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:41,360
season, there were kid from LSU,
obviously Dante Moore. 

1546
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:44,040
Hey, Dante Moore comes out. 
He got Mendoza, he got more 

1547
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:48,880
Simpson kid from Ness Meyer from
LSU. 

1548
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:52,960
Like there were thought to be, 
you know, 3-4, maybe 5 first 

1549
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,640
round quarterbacks. 
Now Mendoza is obviously going 

1550
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:57,960
one. 
And if Ty Simpson does not go in

1551
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:00,840
the first round, nobody else is 
going in the first round. 

1552
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:04,240
So I just think based on the 
circumstances, Ty Simpson 

1553
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,320
already won. 
Because even if you don't think 

1554
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:09,040
he's a first round pick, he's 
going to wind up getting taken 

1555
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:10,640
in the first round. 
He just is. 

1556
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:15,280
And you know, as I've said, and 
I laid out the teams that I 

1557
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:17,720
think would obviously make a 
move for them, The Jets, the 

1558
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:20,440
Cardinals, maybe maybe the Rams.
That's not desperation, That's 

1559
01:15:20,440 --> 01:15:24,000
just foresight that that's 
actually, that's the way that 

1560
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:27,080
see, that's called clarity. 
That's the exact opposite of 

1561
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:28,560
desperation. 
We're good. 

1562
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:30,320
We've already won a Super Bowl 
here. 

1563
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,600
The head coach, general manager 
fan base content, we know that 

1564
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,480
they want more than we know that
they want to keep winning, 

1565
01:15:35,480 --> 01:15:37,600
obviously keep winning and 
winning and winning and winning,

1566
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,440
but that we've already 
delivered. 

1567
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,120
So and we already have a Hall of
Fame quarterback who's who's not

1568
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,800
young but still awesome. 
So we could pretty much do 

1569
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,400
whatever we want because we've 
got that latitude and we've got 

1570
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,720
that that equity. 
I think it's a better way to put

1571
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:55,400
it within the fan base. 
All right, Whereas, you know, 

1572
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:58,240
these other these other teams 
now the Cardinals, and this is 

1573
01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:01,840
not to this is not to diminish 
at all like the Cardinals fan 

1574
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:05,280
base, but the Cardinals fan base
is not like The Jets and the 

1575
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,240
Browns fan base. 
So the teams with the shortest 

1576
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:11,640
odds to actually draft Ty 
Simpson, Jets are a circus, 

1577
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:16,280
Browns are a circus, Rams 
champions, Steelers, you know, 

1578
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,480
platinum franchise, Tomblin's 
gone. 

1579
01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:21,520
We'll see what happens there. 
And and the Rams, as I just 

1580
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,080
discussed, obviously have a lot 
of equity. 

1581
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:26,960
So you know, somebody like the 
and then the Cardinals are are 

1582
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:30,080
obviously a a disaster in a 
circus, but there's just not as 

1583
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:31,440
much energy within their fan 
base. 

1584
01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:33,400
And that that's not a knock. 
That's just the reality of it. 

1585
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:40,760
Like Jet fans and Brown fans and
Raider fans or, you know, next 

1586
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:44,080
level nuts in terms of trying to
break out of this hell hole of 

1587
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,680
football. 
And trust me, because I've 

1588
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,960
talked to people within these 
organizations, not the Browns, 

1589
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,800
but The Jets, they feel it that 
they even if they say that they 

1590
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,680
want to ignore it, even if they 
try to ignore it, it permeates 

1591
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:59,680
their thought process because it
impacts job security downstream.

1592
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:02,160
It just does. 
So it kind of speeds things up 

1593
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,000
in terms of putting a player on 
the field that's not ready or 

1594
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:06,960
maybe drafting somebody a little
bit too early. 

1595
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:09,680
Listen, I think, you know, just 
to take it back to The Jets for 

1596
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:13,080
a second, I think that The Jets 
are going to do probably, you 

1597
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:17,000
know, let me see 2 and 16. 
All right, so we got this. 

1598
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:21,800
I'm just writing this down. 
This, this, this, this, this, 

1599
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:28,320
this, this four things or that, 
that maybe 5 things. 

1600
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:31,360
Bear with me. 
That, that, that. 

1601
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:35,040
OK, so I think The Jets can do 
13 thing. 

1602
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:36,560
Why don't you narrow it down, 
knucklehead? 

1603
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,040
I mean, you should probably tell
No. 

1604
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,320
I mean, but I I have narrowed it
down. 

1605
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:42,960
I'm being facetious, I think 
with two and six. 

1606
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:48,760
Forget about the 33rd pick right
now, 30, Yeah, 33rd The Jets. 

1607
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:51,200
Are they going to go? 
It's very clear to me. 

1608
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:57,240
Defense, Defense 2 and 16, 
that's one defense. 

1609
01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:00,080
Wide receiver, 2 and 16, that's 
2. 

1610
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:07,040
Defense, Ty Simpson at 16, 
that's three trade out of two. 

1611
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,160
Like say if they don't love 
Reese and they want to take 

1612
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:13,640
Styles or they want to take 
Caleb Downs, but they're a 

1613
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:16,360
little, it's a little hard for 
them to justify doing that at 

1614
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:19,520
2:00. 
But somebody loves another 

1615
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:21,840
player, right? 
Like Reese. 

1616
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:25,760
Well, you could trade out and 
maybe if it's more of two spots 

1617
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,600
and then you could then go 
defense again and then defense. 

1618
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,960
So that would be the 4th 
scenario or even, you know, I 

1619
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:37,400
guess it's now 6 trade out 
defense and then wide receiver 

1620
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,080
or or defense defense receiver, 
because you'd be getting an 

1621
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,200
extra pick. 
Like there's a lot of ways to 

1622
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,320
play this. 
Like there's no way The Jets 

1623
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,920
aren't going defense with their 
whatever whatever pick they like

1624
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:54,080
234 if they trade out the Giants
a fine, which would be 

1625
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,000
incredible. 
Like imagine like if the Giants 

1626
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:57,680
actually drafted a running back 
again. 

1627
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:00,160
Could you imagine that after all
the stuff with Saquon? 

1628
01:19:00,440 --> 01:19:02,440
I know it's a different player. 
I know it's a different regime 

1629
01:19:02,440 --> 01:19:03,680
now. 
I think that Harbaugh is going 

1630
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:05,240
defense. 
I think he's going to go safety.

1631
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:07,840
You know, whether it's downs, I 
think he's going somebody like 

1632
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:09,440
that. 
I really, really do. 

1633
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,480
And whatever, Jim, whatever John
Harbaugh wants, he's getting, 

1634
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,080
you know, I mean, that's it. 
Like it's it's his show. 

1635
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:18,200
We all know that the general 
manager is still there, but 

1636
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:21,240
horribaugh is getting his pick 
period, right. 

1637
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:24,360
This is his draft dude. 
We all know that he's going 

1638
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:28,320
defense, but I don't know if 
he's incredibly enamored with 

1639
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:31,400
like is Jeremiah Love such a 
different type of prospect? 

1640
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:33,640
I mean, is he different than 
Saquon coming out of Penn State?

1641
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:37,040
I mean, I I I don't know. 
I mean, I don't think he is. 

1642
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,600
I mean, I think he's tremendous,
but I'm I'm just don't forget 

1643
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,520
what's what Saquon was that Penn
State. 

1644
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:45,840
So like I'm just using the 
Giants as an example, say if 

1645
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:50,680
Harbaugh was bypasses what I 
believe will be his real 

1646
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:54,640
mentality of drafting defense 
and he wants Jeremiah Love and 

1647
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,960
and then the Cardinals want 
Jeremiah love at three as well. 

1648
01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:00,160
Well, the only way you get him 
is you do business with The Jets

1649
01:20:00,480 --> 01:20:04,040
and then five becomes 2 and then
two becomes 5 and then The Jets 

1650
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:08,160
can still take styles or. 
Yeah, I can say Reuben Baines, I

1651
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:09,160
certainly wouldn't take him 
there. 

1652
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:12,560
Not I wouldn't take him to top 
seven, maybe back end top ten. 

1653
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:14,520
I don't think The Jets would do 
that at all. 

1654
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:16,080
Somebody else will. 
I don't think that they will. 

1655
01:20:16,480 --> 01:20:19,080
So there's a lot of different 
machinations here. 

1656
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:22,360
It's going to be a lot of fun. 
I think this draft is going to 

1657
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:25,240
be absolutely awesome. 
I really, really do because I 

1658
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,600
think you're going to see some 
trades and there's so many. 

1659
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:31,840
And you know, the die hard 
Collin football fan doesn't need

1660
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,360
this, but like the average 
French fan kind of does. 

1661
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,120
Like, you know, when you've got,
you know, 4 kids from Ohio 

1662
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:41,200
State, when you've got a wide 
receiver from USC, you know when

1663
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:44,200
you've got a running back from 
Notre Dame, you know, when 

1664
01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,520
you've got an edge guy from 
Miami, Miami's actually got a 

1665
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:49,560
couple of players. 
You know, like that is brand 

1666
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:54,360
recognition that that helps sell
the the draft even more. 

1667
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,600
And let's face it, the NFL draft
doesn't really need a whole lot 

1668
01:20:56,600 --> 01:21:00,160
of selling so that you know, if 
if there was other quarterback 

1669
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:02,600
prospects, I don't I I then you 
tell me. 

1670
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,160
All right, Ty Simpson maybe 
slides 3334. 

1671
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:07,800
I think that's I think that's I 
think that might happen, even 

1672
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,080
though I still think he's at 
least a back end of the first 

1673
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,240
round talent. 
But at least I do I do. 

1674
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:16,400
So if The Jets take up at 16, I 
would want to know how hard they

1675
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:20,880
tried to trade back to be able 
to get him, you know, or how 

1676
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:24,600
aggressively they tried to trade
up from that 33rd pick back into

1677
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:28,000
the first round to get him. 
But I would not crush the pick 

1678
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:32,960
like I'm on the record now that 
I'm I'm I'm intrigued enough 

1679
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:38,800
with Ty Simpson, and I trust 
that Gino will play well enough 

1680
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:43,080
where it's not so ugly, where 
the clamoring for Simpson too 

1681
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:47,040
early would destroy and stunt 
his development as a young 

1682
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:48,400
quarterback. 
That's what I believe. 

1683
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:50,120
Now, a lot of people disagree. 
That's fine. 

1684
01:21:50,440 --> 01:21:52,480
That's why we talk about this. 
You know what I mean, Jay. 

1685
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:59,120
Yes, Sir. 
Yeah, BT how do you say this 

1686
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,160
guy's phuk? 
I mean, you know what he's 

1687
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:03,440
saying. 
You know what he's trying to 

1688
01:22:03,440 --> 01:22:04,160
say. 
Yeah, I know. 

1689
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:07,280
What he's saying there BT What 
do you thoughts on Carson Beck 

1690
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:08,840
Heard the jet. 
I I don't want any. 

1691
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:10,080
That's a guy. 
I want no part of it. 

1692
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,360
Not a fan? 
No, not a fan of his attitude. 

1693
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:16,480
He's not a real fan of his game.
Just don't like Carson Beck at 

1694
01:22:16,480 --> 01:22:18,080
all. 
I don't want him on The Jets at 

1695
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:20,040
all. 
Watching wind up being great, 

1696
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,560
going to work out that way. 
J Rod no, I'm not a Carson Beck 

1697
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:26,000
fan at all at all. 
And then listen, that the other 

1698
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:29,000
thing that obviously complicates
is and not just let's I tell 

1699
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,200
you, I'm not just going to do 
New York stuff, not just for The

1700
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,360
Jets, but for the Cardinals and 
for the Browns, right. 

1701
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:36,440
So I think the Browns are a 
little less desperate. 

1702
01:22:36,480 --> 01:22:39,440
I know that that sounds crazy 
that I mean the Browns or as 

1703
01:22:39,440 --> 01:22:41,120
desperate as anybody, but at 
least pertaining to the 

1704
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:43,720
quarterback spot, like at least 
they've got somebody in their 

1705
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:45,520
building. 
I don't think Shudor Sanders is 

1706
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:48,680
that good. 
You know, I myself, and I'm not 

1707
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:52,880
hating on the young man like a 
lot of people do I, I, I, he 

1708
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:54,720
felt, I think it was unfair how 
we fell. 

1709
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:56,560
I also never thought he was as 
good as some people. 

1710
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:58,080
Like there was a thought the 
giants were going to take him 

1711
01:22:58,080 --> 01:22:59,800
inside the top five. 
There's no way that was going to

1712
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:01,280
happen. 
I just, you knew that one, they 

1713
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,560
weren't taking him three, where 
they wound up taking Abdul 

1714
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:05,280
Carter, but there was a thought 
that they would. 

1715
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:07,960
I I never felt that about him at
all at all. 

1716
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:11,080
But you know, I mean, there's an
element of at least 

1717
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,880
functionality and intrigue 
because he played a little bit 

1718
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,240
last year. 
So I don't think that they're 

1719
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:19,600
quite as desperate as The Jets 
and and the Cardinals still have

1720
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,440
percent right. 
So maybe maybe The Jets might be

1721
01:23:22,440 --> 01:23:24,440
the most and the Raiders need 
one, but they got Mendoza. 

1722
01:23:24,440 --> 01:23:28,040
So, you know, maybe desperation 
does force your hand a little 

1723
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:29,880
bit, but I don't think Mooji's 
going to operate that way 

1724
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:31,960
because it's not year three or 
year 4. 

1725
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,600
It's he's just getting going. 
And I think when you look at the

1726
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:37,960
when you start to grade out a 
Mooji and forget, forget about 

1727
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:40,360
Glenn for a SEC, you can't win 
if you have no talent. 

1728
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,920
I think Muji's graded out very 
well for all the reasons I've 

1729
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,760
talked about as a general 
manager so far, those moves 

1730
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,240
inside the margins, the 
willingness to take the 

1731
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:54,360
aggressive swings by trading, 
you know, sauce and Q like I I 

1732
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:57,320
really like with stockpile draft
picks, you know, flipping 6th 

1733
01:23:57,320 --> 01:24:00,360
and 7th picks and even the move 
for Gino, where I'm not saying 

1734
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:02,520
Gino's going to throw 35 
touchdowns and and The Jets 

1735
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:04,440
going to be really good. 
He'll be a functional 

1736
01:24:04,440 --> 01:24:06,240
quarterback. 
He'll be, I think at at the at 

1737
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:08,240
the worst, an average NFL 
quarterback. 

1738
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,840
And I think The Jets will run 
the ball a lot because their old

1739
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:14,040
line is good and, you know, 
third and four, third and five, 

1740
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:17,040
when Justin Fields or Brady Cook
couldn't hit somebody who was 

1741
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:20,320
actually open, you know, to move
the chain and keep the defense 

1742
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:22,160
off the field and keep the game 
tight. 

1743
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,280
Geno Smith will so when I say 
he'll be a functional 

1744
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:28,000
quarterback, he will definitely 
give you that. 

1745
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:34,480
But I I think that the the 
desperation is, is also has to 

1746
01:24:34,480 --> 01:24:40,480
be measured by what's what's, 
you know, lurking in 2027 and 

1747
01:24:41,480 --> 01:24:45,040
Jets have three first round 
picks. 2027. 

1748
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,960
The Browns don't have three, but
they've got another year of 

1749
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:50,800
evaluation for Shudor Sanders in
20. 

1750
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:53,640
Like, you know, say, if you're 
on the fence, like I don't think

1751
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:55,360
there's any and I don't know 
this to be true, Jay. 

1752
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:57,200
I don't there's anybody in the 
building. 

1753
01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:59,280
And if so, then OK, then I stay 
corrected. 

1754
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,280
There can't be anybody in the 
Browns building that looks at 

1755
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:05,240
Shudor Sanders and says he is 
absolutely the guy. 

1756
01:25:05,440 --> 01:25:09,400
Full conviction, future star, 
absolute elite franchise 

1757
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:11,200
quarterback. 
Nobody's thinking that. 

1758
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:14,200
But I also think there's a few 
there's enough people thinking, 

1759
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:17,000
all right, you know, let's see 
what the full offseason, you 

1760
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,000
know, a little bit of an 
improved or the defense was good

1761
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,360
for the Cleveland Browns, but 
little bit more of an improved 

1762
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,800
roster. 
And let's watch him play a full 

1763
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,360
season. 
And then we have better more 

1764
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:30,120
Intel and a better ability to 
make the right decision on what 

1765
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:33,040
we do in 2027. 
And, you know, and and The Jets 

1766
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:38,040
had that as well with Gino here.
But because the I I think that 

1767
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:41,440
the different thing though, with
with Gino here, like and and you

1768
01:25:41,440 --> 01:25:44,360
know, I they're not going to be 
as bad as they were last year 

1769
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:46,720
for the reasons their defense 
will be better and Gino will be 

1770
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:51,160
better than with what they had. 
But let's say The Jets go 6:00 

1771
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:54,560
and 11:00 or 7:00 and 10:00 and 
they're more competitive, not a 

1772
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:57,600
wild card team and but not 
buried by October, not Oh, and 

1773
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:01,080
six and with a couple of games 
early, maybe teams you should be

1774
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:04,600
even if it's ugly, whatever. 
Well, if you do win enough of 

1775
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:08,000
those games and they could based
on their own line and and I 

1776
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,920
think the uptick in quarterback 
play, you know, how are you 

1777
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:15,280
penalized in 2027 for your your 
ability to get the quarterback 

1778
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:17,560
that you might really want now 
that you view much better than 

1779
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:19,520
Ty Simpson? 
Well, the answer to that would 

1780
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:23,960
be all right, even if it does 
complicate the road to Arch or 

1781
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:27,640
somebody, Dante Moore, whatever.
Next year, you do have three 

1782
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:30,080
first round picks to move up and
do whatever you control the 

1783
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:32,520
draft next year, whatever The 
Jets want to do. 

1784
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,400
The Jets, The Jets in a lot of 
ways control the draft this 

1785
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:36,720
year. 
They really do. 

1786
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:39,960
So the only way the Raiders 
would have controlled it is if 

1787
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:43,520
they would have said, you know 
what we're not we're open for 

1788
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:45,360
business. 
We're not drafting Mendoza. 

1789
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:47,720
But once they want it and we all
know that they're going to take 

1790
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:49,920
Mendoza. 
Now The Jets control the board 

1791
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:51,760
because there's a lot whether 
it's Reese and some other 

1792
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:56,480
defensive players, Caleb Downs, 
Sonny Styles kid from Texas Tech

1793
01:26:56,480 --> 01:26:59,320
to defend the the edge rusher. 
You know, beauty's in the eye 

1794
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:00,760
about other but whole of the 
beholder. 

1795
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:03,520
So The Jets might look at Reese 
as AB player. 

1796
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:05,320
I don't know that they do, but 
they I'm saying if they if they 

1797
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:09,560
do and you've got another team 
that's drafting 8th, 9th or 10th

1798
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,320
and they're like this dude is a 
franchise changer. 

1799
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:14,920
Well, The Jets could jump out of
two and they can still take 

1800
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:17,840
another defensive player that's 
kind of equal or maybe you know,

1801
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:19,640
better at certain things in a 
different position. 

1802
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:23,520
So I I do think they have great 
control this year, but next year

1803
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,200
there's no doubt that they 
control the entire draft. 

1804
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,240
So very curious how they play 
it. 

1805
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:33,200
And you know, the final thing 
with Ty Simpson is that I just 

1806
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:35,200
think he's going first round. 
I really do. 

1807
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:36,880
I believe that and that's what I
want to see. 

1808
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:38,440
All right. 
What? 

1809
01:27:38,440 --> 01:27:41,200
Bailey's a kid from Texas Tech. 
What do I think of Bailey at #2?

1810
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:43,000
I wouldn't do it. 
I really wouldn't do it. 

1811
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:46,160
I don't even really think I want
The Jets to to take recent 

1812
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,520
number two. 
I am just, you know, and 

1813
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:50,480
sometimes I will admit you can 
take that down. 

1814
01:27:50,480 --> 01:27:51,000
Jay. 
Thank you. 

1815
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:52,880
That's a good question because 
Bailey, that's that's what I was

1816
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:56,120
talking about before Texas Tech.
All right, He's much more. 

1817
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,080
Here's the word on the street. 
I've seen him play twice this 

1818
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:02,400
year, right. 
I think that he is ready. 

1819
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:06,280
He is ready to put his hand in 
the dirt in the NFL and go out 

1820
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:09,920
there and get, you know, 8-9 
sacks and be a good pass rusher.

1821
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:12,120
All right? 
Is he going to do anything else?

1822
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:14,120
I don't think so. 
I think he's kind of A1 trick 

1823
01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:16,800
pony myself. 
A lot of people tend to agree 

1824
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:19,480
with that. 
And I also don't think that he's

1825
01:28:19,480 --> 01:28:21,200
like he's not Miles. 
I mean, I know he's not Miles 

1826
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:22,800
Garrett. 
He's not somebody like that 

1827
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:25,840
where all right, man, this guy's
coming in and he's going to be a

1828
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:29,760
1516 sack guy when it's all 
said, like Bosa when he's 

1829
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:32,320
healthy or some of these other 
players that that we watch in 

1830
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:34,640
the NFL. 
He's not that kind of player. 

1831
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:37,360
I don't think I think his his 
floor is pretty high. 

1832
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:40,040
So and and you know, I hate 
these control. 

1833
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:43,400
Oh, the floor is high and his 
ceiling is high and you know, 

1834
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,240
all these these other you're 
gonna hear it all, all you can 

1835
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:46,680
hear all the time. 
You can hear it on draft night. 

1836
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,000
You heard it the combine. 
If you watch that, you know, oh,

1837
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:51,760
look at this quarter. 
Great hips, great adjustability 

1838
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,840
to the ball in flight. 
I got Oh my, these expressions 

1839
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:56,480
there there apps. 
Can you play football dude? 

1840
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:57,960
You know, can you get out of 
field? 

1841
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:01,200
I don't need to see a plane 
against air and doing drills 

1842
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:04,160
that you already have practice 
you've trained 5 weeks for 

1843
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,840
because you know what the 
combine entails the gauntlet 

1844
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:08,920
where you have balls coming from
every direction. 

1845
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,680
Can you get separation off the 
lot of scrimmage when somebody 

1846
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:13,360
jams you in right under your 
chin? 

1847
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:15,800
Can you do that? 
Because that's a wide receiver 

1848
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:17,400
for me. 
Can your first move? 

1849
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:19,480
Can you get inside leverage if 
you wanted a slam? 

1850
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:21,560
Can you get outside if you doing
something else? 

1851
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:23,440
I mean, can you do that? 
And you can't. 

1852
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:24,880
You can tell that now. 
You can obviously tell with the 

1853
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:27,480
film, but sometimes the film 
lies because you're playing 

1854
01:29:27,480 --> 01:29:30,120
against inferior competition in 
college. 

1855
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:33,440
And the gauntlet, again, you can
run out, go out there 10439 and 

1856
01:29:33,440 --> 01:29:35,240
catch every single conceivable 
pass. 

1857
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:37,840
And he could jump to the moon. 
He could touch the bar and have 

1858
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:39,880
the highest vertical. 
And you can squat whatever you 

1859
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:42,080
squat and bench press whatever 
you bench press. 

1860
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:45,600
But again, when somebody is 
opposite you and it's a grown 

1861
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:49,760
man, not a college kid, a grown 
man and he's got grown man's 

1862
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:52,960
strength, even if it's only like
a 2425 year old corner who's 

1863
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:55,560
been in the league for a couple 
of years and you're a receiver. 

1864
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:58,720
I'm telling you now, I never I 
never experienced this, but I 

1865
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:02,480
but I do know this when you 
first try to make that move and 

1866
01:30:02,480 --> 01:30:05,560
those those hands hit you like 
those hands, it is just a 

1867
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:10,160
different kind of pop. 
It's just different right under 

1868
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:12,480
the chin strap. 
And once it's just that that's 

1869
01:30:12,480 --> 01:30:13,920
all it takes to get you off your
route. 

1870
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:15,800
Like if that happens, you don't 
recover. 

1871
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:17,840
Now, I'm not saying that's going
to happen to you every single 

1872
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:19,760
play. 
And then eventually, you know, 

1873
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:22,720
you'll play teams in the NFL 
that have average corners or 

1874
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:26,760
subpar corners or maybe you have
another star receiver opposite 

1875
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:29,360
you that obviously gets the main
corner. 

1876
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:30,920
All right. 
I mean, I, I know there's a 

1877
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:34,040
million circumstances, but if 
you're getting drafted like that

1878
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:37,360
high, you know, you, you better 
be able to do all that stuff. 

1879
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:40,240
And you know, whether it's 
Bailey at Texas Tech, all right,

1880
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:43,520
if you're going up against a 
tackle and you know, he's just, 

1881
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:47,200
he's just, I mean, every tackle 
is big, But I mean that elite 

1882
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:52,160
combination of, you know, hand 
manipulation and instinct and, 

1883
01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:55,720
and obviously quickness and, you
know, recoverability, like if he

1884
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:58,000
misses his first move, the next 
move right there, almost like 

1885
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,200
jiu jitsu, you know, you miss 
your first move, you're not 

1886
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:02,120
missing your second and you're 
definitely not missing your 

1887
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:05,440
third. 
So I think that that's what does

1888
01:31:05,440 --> 01:31:07,360
make this evaluation really 
hard. 

1889
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:11,800
And one of the things that I 
learned probably most from Tiki 

1890
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:16,320
of of all the things that I 
learned about him, really does 

1891
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:17,960
pertain to the quarterbacks, 
right? 

1892
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:21,280
Like, not that I was working 
with with with Tiki when Tim 

1893
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:22,880
Tebow was getting drafted, but 
yeah. 

1894
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:27,040
How many college quarterbacks, 
Grossman, You know, so many 

1895
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:32,560
college quarterbacks, they put 
up these arcade like numbers and

1896
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:35,600
then you watch them in the pros.
Like Andre Ware was one of those

1897
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:40,000
an old name Andre Ware from 
Houston, Achilles Smith from 

1898
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,920
Oregon who went to Cincinnati. 
He was a he was a Joey 

1899
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,840
Harrington who played at Oregon 
and then obviously drafted to 

1900
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,000
the lines third overall. 
Zach Wilson. 

1901
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,680
You know, how many how many guys
is what, what he really taught 

1902
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:55,040
me. 
He's like, watch, watch, watch a

1903
01:31:55,040 --> 01:32:00,320
college game and watch how open 
the receivers are. 

1904
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:02,520
So you're like, I know we all 
love stats. 

1905
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:05,120
I get that. 
But you know, quarterback X for 

1906
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:08,720
whatever school, right? 
They threw 393 yards and three 

1907
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:11,280
touchdowns, no picks, had a 
perfect quarterback rating. 

1908
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:17,480
And then you see the throws and 
it's it's a like the space is 

1909
01:32:17,480 --> 01:32:20,280
like this. 
You're throwing to you're 

1910
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:24,640
throwing to a spot in college, 
you're throwing to an area right

1911
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:27,560
in the pros, you're throwing to 
a keyhole. 

1912
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:31,080
And it's done with anticipation 
because you know, if you're a 

1913
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:33,640
quarterback and Obama's not what
they were, but if you're a 

1914
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:37,440
quarterback like you know, and 
and obviously you know, somebody

1915
01:32:37,440 --> 01:32:38,840
like Borough with LSU was 
phenomenal. 

1916
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:41,680
But if you're at LSU when they 
have all those great receivers 

1917
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:44,760
or you're at Alabama when they 
had all those great receivers, 

1918
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:47,640
you know, he's going to win off 
the line of scrimmage. 

1919
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:50,000
And if you're just confident, 
which they all are, because 

1920
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:53,000
they're all five star guys who 
got drafted and got millions of 

1921
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:56,160
dollars through the NIL 
situation now, like you're not a

1922
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:57,880
scrub. 
You're not taking some guy, 

1923
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:02,080
you're not taking some player 
who was six and five, you know, 

1924
01:33:02,480 --> 01:33:05,320
on a, on a small little public 
school there, a little Catholic 

1925
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:10,400
school in, you know, Montana. 
I love my beautiful state, but 

1926
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:12,760
college football is not 
incredibly strong out there. 

1927
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:15,280
And like he just happened to be 
a good player in a bad 

1928
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:17,440
conference. 
You're taking the stud from 

1929
01:33:17,440 --> 01:33:18,840
Texas. 
You're taking the stud from 

1930
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:19,920
Alabama. 
I'm talking about high school 

1931
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:23,120
now from Alabama, from Georgia, 
from Florida, from California, 

1932
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:26,160
from New Jersey, which is very 
good for high school football 

1933
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:29,640
from Pennsylvania, from Ohio. 
Like those are those are 

1934
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:32,080
probably the main I think I 
mentioned Michigan's pretty good

1935
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:34,160
too. 
Those are the hot pockets for 

1936
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:36,080
football. 
So the point is when you watch 

1937
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:37,600
these quarter and go, just go 
and do it. 

1938
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:42,280
Go and watch if you want, watch 
every throw Mendoza made and and

1939
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:44,600
I like Mendoza and watch every 
throw Ty Simpson made. 

1940
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:47,400
And then, you know, tell me 
who's open. 

1941
01:33:47,440 --> 01:33:51,320
You know what I mean? 
And when that when that radius 

1942
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:54,080
talk about catch radius as a 
receiver, But when that throw 

1943
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:58,000
radius shrinks and it it 
shrinks, like, I mean, it goes 

1944
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,320
from a softball to like a speck 
of dust. 

1945
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:03,920
That's how much it it changes in
the NFL from Saturday to Sunday.

1946
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:08,240
That's where you will learn if 
that's the guy who's going to be

1947
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:10,360
an elite thrower of the ball at 
the next level. 

1948
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:13,120
Now there's other aspects to it.
How big are you? 

1949
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:16,120
You know, what's your 
anticipation, what your your 

1950
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:19,360
ability to read what's in front 
of you Diagnosed quickly. 

1951
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,800
All right, they're trying. 
They're presenting this, but I 

1952
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:24,240
already know on film that they 
ain't doing that. 

1953
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:25,520
They're actually coming from 
this side. 

1954
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:28,400
So you call out, hey, running 
back, pick up this guy, you 

1955
01:34:28,440 --> 01:34:31,960
know, give me a little chip lock
here or pop put that. 

1956
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:34,640
You know what? 
Let's check into the run like 

1957
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:36,720
those are, though. 
That's next level stuff. 

1958
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:41,480
And ideally every quarterback 
would be 64235 and run like Josh

1959
01:34:41,480 --> 01:34:44,680
Allen, you know, and hit like a 
freight train and look to hit 

1960
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:47,240
opposing defenders like he's a 
linebacker. 

1961
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:49,320
But there's other ways to skin 
the cat. 

1962
01:34:49,320 --> 01:34:50,800
There's other ways to win games 
here. 

1963
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:52,880
There's other ways to get your 
team in the end zone. 

1964
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:56,160
Look at Geno Smith, at least 
with the Renaissance with 

1965
01:34:56,160 --> 01:34:59,360
Seattle, he's not sculpted. 
You know, he doesn't have this 

1966
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:02,560
amazing body. 
You know, he's he's he's quick. 

1967
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:05,760
He's getting older now, decent 
speed, but never Lamar Jackson 

1968
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:07,320
or one of those burners like 
that. 

1969
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:09,960
I mean, the guy almost won the 
MVPA couple of years ago, put up

1970
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:13,160
big numbers. 
So there's a lot there. 

1971
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:14,600
I know. 
Just got to I I love talking 

1972
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:16,680
this stuff, man. 
I can talk draft and we will. 

1973
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:18,440
Oh, God, I can't wait for the 
draft, Jay. 

1974
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:21,240
Like I can't wait for the NFL 
draft. 

1975
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:23,520
I'm super pumped up. 
I really am. 

1976
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:25,600
I used to go to the draft a lot 
when it was the radio. 

1977
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:27,080
Really. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1978
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:29,200
Where do they where do they hold
the NFL draft? 

1979
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:32,080
Is it in Florida? 
No, it remember it now. 

1980
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:33,560
It revolves, it rotates, 
remember? 

1981
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:35,560
You go from. 
City to city now, because I. 

1982
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:37,200
Remember seeing the one with the
boat? 

1983
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:40,960
Yes, well, that was in Vegas. 
I think that was the Bellagio. 

1984
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:42,800
Really. 
I think that was, was that, was 

1985
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:45,360
that right? 
Was that the COVID 1 or maybe 

1986
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:48,280
right after? 
Right after the COVID one would 

1987
01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:49,920
be my guess. 
Can you do me a favor? 

1988
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:53,400
Can you pop this up? 
Just, you know, Google recent 

1989
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:55,640
NFL draft locations. 
I know Detroit had it. 

1990
01:35:56,080 --> 01:36:00,240
I know Philly had it. 
Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, 

1991
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:01,720
Pittsburgh has it this year, 
right? 

1992
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:06,200
It's I think, I think they've 
done this for about 6 years. 

1993
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:09,920
Maybe it was really. 
It's this year, Green Bay, last 

1994
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:12,800
year, Detroit, year before that 
Kansas City. 

1995
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:19,840
Then it was Vegas, Cleveland, 
virtual Zoom, Nashville before 

1996
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:22,120
that one in 2019. 
Now we're going back. 

1997
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:30,800
Arlington, TX 2018 Philly 
Billion 2017 Chicago 20/16/2015 

1998
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:34,560
and then 1965 to 2014 it was New
York. 

1999
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:39,520
So so they started good. 
Good job there, Jay. 

2000
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:40,960
That boy. 
No, no problem. 

2001
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:42,440
Because there's no stats 
involved. 

2002
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:44,120
Yeah, exactly. 
Exactly. 

2003
01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:45,520
Just the names. 
That's easy. 

2004
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:48,560
That's easy. 
So 2014 was the last time they 

2005
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:50,600
did it in New York. 
That's where they started 

2006
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:54,120
jumping around. 
Where was it in 2015 again? 

2007
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:59,520
2015 with Chicago, for two years
for 2015 and 16 with Chicago. 

2008
01:36:59,880 --> 01:37:02,480
Wow. 
I, I, you know, they say, I 

2009
01:37:02,480 --> 01:37:04,040
mean, we all hear time flies. 
Yeah. 

2010
01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:07,120
And that's true, you know, and 
it, it, you know what it really 

2011
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:09,880
hits you like, and it's, it's 
morbid, but it's unfortunate. 

2012
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:13,520
It's the reality. 
Like when you say, say like the 

2013
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:17,560
a famous actor or a musician or,
or famous athlete, like they 

2014
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:19,200
pass away, right. 
Yeah. 

2015
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:22,080
And like, it just comes up in a 
random conversation and you're 

2016
01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:23,600
like, yeah, what was that like 
2-3 years ago? 

2017
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:25,920
They're like, Nah, that was that
passed away nine years ago. 

2018
01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:28,200
How many times does that happen 
where you're like 9 years? 

2019
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:30,280
Wow, that. 
That no decent amount, 

2020
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:32,400
definitely. 
I think that happens all the and

2021
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:34,880
not just with death, but all the
time. 

2022
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:41,080
Like if I had to, if I had to 
get that right and like my life 

2023
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:43,920
depended on it, I, I don't think
I would have been close. 

2024
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:45,920
And I mean, I'm, I'm pretty good
with a lot of the details on 

2025
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:46,880
this stuff. 
I follow this. 

2026
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:51,360
There is no way that I thought 
2015 was the first on site now I

2027
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:53,440
would have been like, did they 
start that after COVID and I 

2028
01:37:53,440 --> 01:37:54,120
didn't think. 
That. 

2029
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:57,200
Right before, yeah, I would have
been wrong. 

2030
01:37:57,200 --> 01:38:00,280
I would have said probably 2019.
I really probably would have 

2031
01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:01,320
said that. 
I got to keep it. 

2032
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:04,400
I got to keep it a buck. 
Got to keep it a buck, as the 

2033
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:07,400
kids say, Jay, no reason to lie.
I would not have gotten that 

2034
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:09,040
right. 
And it's a great idea. 

2035
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:14,320
The funny thing, too, is you see
some of the footage of like, you

2036
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:18,160
go back to the 1984 NBA draft. 
They did a documentary on this 

2037
01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:21,360
like Sam Bowie, Hakeem, Michael 
Jordan, that one, of course, 

2038
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:23,440
right. 
David Stern when he did just 

2039
01:38:23,440 --> 01:38:26,080
took over with his little skinny
tie, his little cheesy Mustang. 

2040
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:27,680
Rest in peace, by the way, great
commissioner. 

2041
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:29,920
So I'm not I'm not making fun of
him, but just the way he was 

2042
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:33,080
such an 80s look, right. 
And it was at the fell Forum, 

2043
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:36,640
which is the little tiny theater
at the garden, right where they 

2044
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:39,320
do some concerts and kid shows 
and stuff used to be called the 

2045
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:41,000
fell Forum. 
Now I just think it's the the 

2046
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:46,520
theater at MSGI think and you 
see like general managers, it's 

2047
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:48,800
like so unsophisticated. 
They're sitting there, they're 

2048
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:51,600
banging back heaters. 
They're cigarettes everywhere, 

2049
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:53,600
you know, like you got the 
little you know. 

2050
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:55,440
Then they thought they but they 
modernized it. 

2051
01:38:55,440 --> 01:38:58,920
They had like the phone with the
helmet phone like into the 90s, 

2052
01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:01,760
like it it and then like writing
stuff on paper like did they? 

2053
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:05,240
Have an audience at that one at 
the 84 NBA Draft. 

2054
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:08,160
Like they they did. 
OK, so they did, but it wasn't 

2055
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:09,520
many. 
They did. 

2056
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:13,560
Yeah, they did. 
And I think that I think if I 

2057
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:17,360
remember the documentary 
properly, they had to basically 

2058
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:20,520
give tickets away, like they had
to entice people to come because

2059
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:24,360
nobody was conditioned to do it.
Yeah, I mean, the the the drafts

2060
01:39:24,480 --> 01:39:27,240
and I, I used to go to a lot of 
NBA drafts even more. 

2061
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:32,640
Than I went to the 20171 when 
Tatum got drafted and Lonzo and 

2062
01:39:32,640 --> 01:39:35,080
Fultz and you did. 
It would have been the year. 

2063
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:37,120
Was it the year the Knicks took 
Frank? 

2064
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:39,640
Maybe Frank Neil could have 
been. 

2065
01:39:41,440 --> 01:39:44,280
You got to see like Lavar Ball 
all toss his hat in the crowd 

2066
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:45,800
and everything. 
It was a fun time. 

2067
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:49,720
So yeah, yeah, yeah. 
That was, I think that was 

2068
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:52,080
actually Franklin Lakita. 
Yeah, it was cool because I 

2069
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:56,080
remember, I think the first one 
I went to, I had started at 

2070
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:59,600
10:50, ESPN Radio, and yeah, I 
was doing whatever updates and 

2071
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:01,800
doing weekend shows, whatever, 
just starting out, and they gave

2072
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:03,200
me the assignment to go to the 
NBA draft. 

2073
01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:04,880
I remember I was one of the 
first credentials. 

2074
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:06,680
It was my first New York 
credential. 

2075
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:09,320
I've been credentialed in 
Detroit, like for the Tigers and

2076
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:11,360
the Pistons. 
I basically went to every Piston

2077
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:13,640
game. 
Almost everyone Tigers were so 

2078
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:15,000
bad. 
I would just kind of go just to 

2079
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:17,040
show my face. 
But the Pistons were a show and 

2080
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:18,560
of course I'd go to the Lions 
games, right. 

2081
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:20,840
But I think that was my first 
New York credential. 

2082
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:24,120
I was so pumped up, man. 
And I remember that was the year

2083
01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:26,680
that the Knicks strength and 
Mike Sweeney only remember this 

2084
01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:28,760
from Georgetown, like 8th or 
9th. 

2085
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:31,360
He was a disaster. 
Good God, Oh my. 

2086
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:33,800
But I remember interviewing him 
and then I probably did that for

2087
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:36,320
a good four or five years and it
was always fun. 

2088
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:41,000
And yeah, like the old footage, 
like you hear stories of of 

2089
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:44,520
players, and I don't mean guys 
who are 85 years old, I mean 

2090
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:48,720
guys who are, you know, in their
like 40s and maybe not 40s, but 

2091
01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:51,040
certainly 50s. 
And then beyond where they just 

2092
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:54,400
found out when they got drafted,
like they got home, like they 

2093
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:58,040
went to maybe or go fishing and 
they walked home and their mom's

2094
01:40:58,040 --> 01:40:59,720
like, yeah, he got drafted by 
the Packers. 

2095
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:02,800
That that's how it would go. 
That stuff is so crazy. 

2096
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:05,240
Like those stories, I feel like 
I find those. 

2097
01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:08,680
So I mean, obviously I guess so 
much more interesting than like,

2098
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:11,480
you know, dude who's the number 
one pick who just goes up on 

2099
01:41:11,480 --> 01:41:13,000
stage because I don't know, it's
cool. 

2100
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:15,080
It's cool when you you don't 
expect it. 

2101
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:19,800
At James, James, James, you 
know, I got to keep I got to pop

2102
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:21,360
some other people in there. 
But it's a good question. 

2103
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:23,480
How did the how can The Jets 
break the curse of ruining their

2104
01:41:23,480 --> 01:41:26,600
quarterbacks here like Simpson, 
but afraid that they would F it 

2105
01:41:26,600 --> 01:41:28,280
up like the others? 
Keep that up. 

2106
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:33,920
So James, to me, that is a lazy 
take there. 

2107
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:36,680
James, I know what you mean 
because I've lived it. 

2108
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:38,760
Like you, I've lived it. 
We all have. 

2109
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:45,440
But see, it's I just think it's 
an inaccurate way to describe 

2110
01:41:45,440 --> 01:41:49,000
some of the failures here. 
Number one, they Zach Wilson, 

2111
01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:51,440
they drafted the wrong guy, 
period. 

2112
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:54,400
They just drafted the wrong guy.
They didn't mess him up. 

2113
01:41:54,480 --> 01:41:55,920
They didn't. 
The Saints signed him. 

2114
01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:57,440
The Dolphins didn't even want 
him. 

2115
01:41:57,440 --> 01:41:59,560
Like when tour was out, the 
Dolphins didn't even want to 

2116
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:02,040
play Zach. 
So The Jets, you know, I wasn't 

2117
01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:06,000
good with The Jets, irrelevant 
with the Miami Dolphins now is 

2118
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:08,520
going to be the backup, maybe 
the third, but certainly the 

2119
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:13,000
backup out in New Orleans. 
And if that doesn't go well, I 

2120
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:15,240
mean, Jack Wilson is going to be
out of the NFL in two years, you

2121
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:17,040
know, 'cause he hasn't proved 
that it can be a competent 

2122
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:18,760
backup. 
Like it's one thing if you get 

2123
01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:22,840
drafted highly and you play a 
lot and you put enough on film, 

2124
01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:25,560
you have a couple of average 
years, but it's just he's not 

2125
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:27,720
the franchise guy. 
And then you move to other 

2126
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:29,640
teams. 
But you can you can cobble it 

2127
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:31,600
like Tyrod Taylor. 
That's a great example. 

2128
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:35,040
You can cobble some examples 
together of guys that, you know,

2129
01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:38,080
we're able to regenerate because
they just showed enough, whether

2130
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:41,080
it was being a good leader in 
the meetings and certainly 

2131
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:42,840
competent enough when you had a 
spot start. 

2132
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:45,400
And then maybe you had a start 
for more than a spot, you know, 

2133
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:47,880
and you won a couple of games 
and there wasn't a massive drop 

2134
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:49,800
off and you get respect around 
the league. 

2135
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:52,280
I mean, Jack Wilson's put 
nothing on tape, so they just 

2136
01:42:52,280 --> 01:42:53,920
read to the wrong guy. 
Sam Darnold. 

2137
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:57,600
If you really think about it, 
Sam Darnold's first year or two,

2138
01:42:57,600 --> 01:42:59,240
we're actually pretty good with 
The Jets. 

2139
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:02,320
Not, I'm not talking about from 
a record perspective, but like, 

2140
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:05,560
I really thought The Jets got it
right with Sam Darnold because I

2141
01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:07,680
remember watching him, I think 
his first year, he had 19 

2142
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:12,760
touchdowns, maybe 17 picks. 
Like, I'm like, all right. 

2143
01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:14,800
I mean, he threw for over 3000 
yards. 

2144
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:17,360
He ran a little bit. 
I remember him trucking one of 

2145
01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:19,920
the Denver Broncos on national 
TV on a Thursday. 

2146
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:23,440
And what are their, I think it 
was their safety who is coming 

2147
01:43:23,440 --> 01:43:25,960
up to try to get him, you know, 
a little bit past the box. 

2148
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:28,680
And he was, maybe he was on the 
right side of the screen and 

2149
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:30,800
Darnold just laid him and ran 
right through him. 

2150
01:43:31,160 --> 01:43:33,800
So I don't think they drafted 
the wrong guy and Sam, I don't 

2151
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:38,400
think that they ruined Sam. 
I just think that the situation 

2152
01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:42,200
was not a good one for Sam. 
And it's not like the next team 

2153
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:43,880
that Sam went to, he was 
phenomenal. 

2154
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:46,440
He didn't do anything for the 
Carolina Panthers either. 

2155
01:43:46,440 --> 01:43:48,360
You know, where the Niners, they
really play. 

2156
01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:51,040
So I know it's easy to pile on 
them. 

2157
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:55,200
I get that. 
It to me, it's not about ruining

2158
01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:57,040
a quarterback. 
It's about I'm going to go the 

2159
01:43:57,040 --> 01:43:59,920
exact opposite approach. 
It's about properly insulating a

2160
01:43:59,920 --> 01:44:01,360
quarterback. 
And what do you mean by that? 

2161
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:04,080
Well, you get him in the 
building and he's got a little 

2162
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:09,360
bit of stability and stability 
starts for a quarterback with, I

2163
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:12,440
mean, you prefer the coach who's
been around for a couple of 

2164
01:44:12,440 --> 01:44:14,640
years and knows how to handle 
the media and he's got a little 

2165
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:16,760
little cachet. 
But it's got to start with an 

2166
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:18,880
old line. 
Because if you are if you are a 

2167
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:21,120
young quarterback, and this 
definitely happened to Zach 

2168
01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:23,840
Wilson and many others around 
the NFL. 

2169
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:27,760
Carr not not that would have 
been David Carr with the Texans.

2170
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:29,680
He got sacked like 70 times his 
rookie year. 

2171
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:32,960
And when you get here's what 
happens guys, when you don't 

2172
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:37,040
have an offensive line, and 
obviously if you don't have an 

2173
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:38,800
offensive line, not going to run
the ball that well. 

2174
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:41,680
So you're going to be, you know,
third and nine, third and 12, he

2175
01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:44,760
gets sacked. 3rd and 13. 
Now they're just now it's an all

2176
01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:48,840
out party to crush you, right? 
And when that happens, and that 

2177
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:52,560
happens too frequently and he 
gets sacked, you know, 5055 

2178
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:57,080
times in a year, even 40 like 
you, you, you be just it's it's 

2179
01:44:57,080 --> 01:45:01,760
almost like self preservation. 
You become condition to stop 

2180
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:04,640
trying to read the field because
you know you're going to get 

2181
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:06,280
hit. 
And it's not even that you're 

2182
01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:09,160
afraid. 
It's just that again, you got to

2183
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:11,680
protect the ball a little bit 
and you got to protect yourself.

2184
01:45:12,040 --> 01:45:16,760
When you got a guy who's 6 foot 
5260 on the edge running a 4-5 

2185
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:20,880
and a half 40, you know who 
could bench a truck and could 

2186
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:23,480
squat a store, I don't blame 
you. 

2187
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:27,520
And then you get a little gun 
shy and then you never really 

2188
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:30,600
develop the ability to scan the 
field. 

2189
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:35,920
And now, now you're 3-4 years in
and everybody knows you can't do

2190
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:38,280
it. 
And you lock into one guy and 

2191
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:41,160
you're so predictable. 
It's almost like that's not 

2192
01:45:41,160 --> 01:45:43,440
great example here, but it just 
popped in my head. 

2193
01:45:43,440 --> 01:45:46,040
Maybe you'll be decent. 
To me, it's similar a little bit

2194
01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:49,040
to somebody like Anthony Volpe, 
like a young hitter who comes up

2195
01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:53,080
and has not shown. 
I know he's got some power, he's

2196
01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:55,320
got some speed as well. 
But I'm talking about from an 

2197
01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:58,280
average and an on base and a 
quality at bat perspective. 

2198
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:00,920
He's he, you know, he hasn't 
learned it yet. 

2199
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:04,360
And now all of a sudden the word
on the street, you know, and 

2200
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:06,080
again, he's not a quarterback. 
So you're not going to get rid 

2201
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:08,120
of him because he's not making 
$50 million a year even. 

2202
01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:09,600
Yeah, whatever. 
I know it's different. 

2203
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:13,080
But when you don't develop the 
ability to have quality or 

2204
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:14,960
that's not inherently in you, I 
don't really know if you could 

2205
01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:16,560
even develop that. 
I'm of the mindset that you 

2206
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:19,920
probably can't just from having 
played at, you know, the level 

2207
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:23,840
that I played at knowing you 
know, you, you can kind of the 

2208
01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:25,880
young, the young good hitters in
baseball. 

2209
01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:29,640
To me, the main key is truly 
being able to differentiate 

2210
01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:32,560
between a ball and a strike. 
Because if you can do that, if 

2211
01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:36,160
you can differentiate between a 
ball and a strike, right, you're

2212
01:46:36,160 --> 01:46:38,240
going to put yourself in a 
situation where you're going to 

2213
01:46:38,240 --> 01:46:42,880
have to get something that you 
can hit all right, 203-0311 O 

2214
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:45,520
2-1, something like that. 
Rather than, you know, if you 

2215
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:48,520
expand the zone on the first 
pitch on a high fit, which Volpe

2216
01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:51,840
always does high fastball 
doesn't catch up to it fouls it 

2217
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:53,440
back. 
Yankee fans, you can actually 

2218
01:46:53,440 --> 01:46:55,320
see this. 
I think I see it every at bat 

2219
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:58,480
fouls it right back. 
Missed that OK, all in one. 

2220
01:46:58,680 --> 01:47:00,160
That was also a ball. 
All right. 

2221
01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:03,440
So now not only is it all in 
one, I missed the pitch that I 

2222
01:47:03,440 --> 01:47:06,360
think I could hammer and I 
fouled back and now I'm screwed 

2223
01:47:06,360 --> 01:47:10,080
because now the percentages, the
ability for the pitcher to fool 

2224
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:12,960
me and now go deeper into his 
repertoire. 

2225
01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:15,320
It they just expand. 
Oh, now guess what? 

2226
01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:18,480
Here's a little change up on the
black and or slider that's going

2227
01:47:18,480 --> 01:47:22,000
to bust away from me and now I'm
going to flail at that and roll 

2228
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:26,880
it over or take it for a strike 
or swing miss O2 and now you're 

2229
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:30,360
cooked, you're out, you're dead.
You know you unless you're Tony 

2230
01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:32,280
Gwynn and you're in your O2, 
you're dead. 

2231
01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:37,160
So I don't, again, it's not 
perfect, but the like that early

2232
01:47:37,160 --> 01:47:40,600
that like that incubator stage, 
I think for any athlete, but 

2233
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:43,680
especially in the batter's box 
and as a quarterback, you got 

2234
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:44,760
it. 
You just got to have certain 

2235
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:47,760
things inherently and the things
that you don't have inherently 

2236
01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:51,000
and that aren't innately within 
you, you got to get it fast. 

2237
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:53,840
You got to find a way to acquire
it and at least make a weakness 

2238
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:57,360
no longer a weakness, even if it
doesn't transform into a, into 

2239
01:47:57,360 --> 01:48:00,560
an ultimate strength, it can't 
be a fatal flaw. 

2240
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:02,840
And the bad quarterbacks don't 
do it. 

2241
01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:05,160
The guys who hit 220 don't do 
it. 

2242
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:07,840
There's absolute, again, I don't
know if it's a perfect example, 

2243
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:11,200
but there is absolutely a 
correlation between the two and 

2244
01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:15,200
what else we got here. 
What what is this? 

2245
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:19,600
Dan Orlovsky's a no talent dope.
The only highlight of his career

2246
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:21,840
is stepping out of the end zone 
when he's with the Lions. 

2247
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:24,560
I mean, I, I don't think he's a 
no talent dope. 

2248
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:27,200
I think Dan's pretty good. 
You know, I'm not saying he's 

2249
01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:28,800
amazing unless he's always 
right. 

2250
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:31,360
I don't, I don't get that. 
I mean, listen, is he beginning 

2251
01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:33,880
to lean into the debate world a 
little bit more than when he 

2252
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:36,400
first started? 
I don't watch those shows enough

2253
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:38,040
to really give you an informed 
opinion. 

2254
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:39,880
I just don't find them really 
interesting anymore. 

2255
01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:42,520
I just don't watch him, you 
know? 

2256
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:44,920
So I don't know. 
But like when he first burst 

2257
01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:47,360
out, I see enough things on 
social media and listen, if I'm 

2258
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:50,680
going through channels like, and
what's what's the show that he's

2259
01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:54,320
on with Rutledge? 
And I think Ryan Clark's on that

2260
01:48:54,320 --> 01:48:56,960
show. 
And what's the big dude Marcus, 

2261
01:48:56,960 --> 01:48:59,200
who's I like Marcus. 
Like if I'm buzzing through 

2262
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:01,040
channels and they're talking 
about something interesting on 

2263
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:04,080
the NFL, I'll watch that. 
I don't think he's I don't think

2264
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:06,360
he's a clown at all. 
I I don't I'm curious why you 

2265
01:49:06,360 --> 01:49:08,960
would say that. 
I don't think, listen, here's 

2266
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:13,120
when you become a clown in our 
industry, you become a clown 

2267
01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:18,120
when you, when the substance 
right, the meat of the 

2268
01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:21,040
conversation, like the reason 
why you're there, the reason why

2269
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:24,040
Dan's there is you can mock him 
stepping out of the end zone. 

2270
01:49:24,440 --> 01:49:27,240
You know, only played football 
at UConn, didn't play at one of 

2271
01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:29,560
these big schools, whatever. 
Although when he played at 

2272
01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:33,200
UConn, they were pretty good and
he was a career backup. 

2273
01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:35,760
Oh, he's a scrub in the NFL. 
Like if you want to minimize and

2274
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:37,960
that that's fine. 
I don't do that because I 

2275
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:40,760
realize, I mean, it's just how 
hard it is just to get to the 

2276
01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:44,040
like for baseball, the lowest 
levels of the minors or to be a 

2277
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:45,680
pro athlete. 
I mean, come on, man. 

2278
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:47,880
I mean, how we just trivialize 
things. 

2279
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:50,920
That's one of my issues with the
way people now talk about 

2280
01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:52,240
sports. 
This guy's a scrub. 

2281
01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:54,320
You couldn't shine this guy's 
shoes. 

2282
01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:58,440
You couldn't shine them if he 
actually gave you a cloth and 

2283
01:49:58,440 --> 01:50:01,800
wax and said shine them, you 
couldn't do it. 

2284
01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:04,560
You couldn't shine their shoes. 
And by the way, neither can I 

2285
01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:07,480
That's just you. 
I mean, so anyway, so I think 

2286
01:50:07,480 --> 01:50:10,320
that you crossed the line of 
being interesting and 

2287
01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:16,040
informative and whatever to 
Clownville when overtime, the 

2288
01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:18,840
reason you're in that chair or 
behind the mic or in front of 

2289
01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:22,120
the camera, the reason why 
you're first there, you know why

2290
01:50:22,120 --> 01:50:24,280
you were first brought there and
somebody's paying you to do it. 

2291
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:26,920
That now becomes secondary to 
shtick. 

2292
01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:29,240
You know what I mean? 
All right, I can let me say 

2293
01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:31,760
something preposterous. 
Let me go against the grain, 

2294
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:34,400
even though I don't believe it, 
because this will generate, you 

2295
01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:38,200
know, 1.7 million clicks and you
know, awful announcing is going 

2296
01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:40,880
to write about it and Parrot 
Media is going to write about 

2297
01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:42,280
it. 
And so and so is going to want 

2298
01:50:42,280 --> 01:50:44,920
me on their radio show because 
they they want to talk about it.

2299
01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:48,760
And I'm going to gain everyday 
thousands of IG followers and X 

2300
01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:52,200
followers and Subs, you know, 
Subs on my YouTube show. 

2301
01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:55,440
Like to me, that's a clown. 
I don't think Dan Orlovsky's a 

2302
01:50:55,440 --> 01:50:58,120
clown at all. 
I'm not saying he's the best 

2303
01:50:58,120 --> 01:51:00,560
football analyst out there, but 
I think he's I do think he's 

2304
01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:02,960
good. 
So that but that's just my 

2305
01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:04,880
opinion. 
You know, the evaluation of 

2306
01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:07,720
talent is obviously very 
subjective. 

2307
01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:11,400
Gio thinks I'm terrible on the 
air and many of you don't. 

2308
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:13,240
It's opinion, you know what I 
mean? 

2309
01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:16,600
It's his opinion what else we 
got there. 

2310
01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:18,640
Jay Rod hook up a couple of 
texts here, buddy. 

2311
01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:20,480
Let's see. 
Jumping in that car heading 

2312
01:51:20,480 --> 01:51:23,600
South in about four hours. 
Get ready for the Johnnies 

2313
01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:27,480
tomorrow. 
Dude, I mean, couldn't, couldn't

2314
01:51:27,480 --> 01:51:30,960
be more hyped up for that. 
We got to, I got to like find a 

2315
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:33,480
good bar in Midtown to go do for
that game. 

2316
01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:36,720
Dude, it's going to be like 
something around MSG. 

2317
01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:42,800
Let's see, who do you want the 
Giants to draft BT from Charles 

2318
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:46,200
Barkley, 223, but likely not the
real. 

2319
01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:48,280
Some people would say that 
Charles turned into a clown, but

2320
01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:50,400
I don't think he has. 
I don't think. 

2321
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:52,480
I love him. 
I love Charles Barkley. 

2322
01:51:52,760 --> 01:51:55,240
Although those glasses he's 
wearing, have you seen the 

2323
01:51:55,280 --> 01:51:56,880
glasses he's been wearing 
lately? 

2324
01:51:57,240 --> 01:52:00,560
They're grandma glasses that 
they're like, first of all, 

2325
01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:03,040
they're like Peach, which is 
fine. 

2326
01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:04,960
I mean, I I got pink shirts. 
I got pink sports guy. 

2327
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:09,040
Yeah, going. 
But what the hell is he doing 

2328
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:11,600
wearing those things? 
They're like the size of 

2329
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:14,520
softballs. 
They're not even properly on his

2330
01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:17,320
face, and they're like grandma 
glasses. 

2331
01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:20,160
And I love the guy. 
Charles Barkley's awesome, but 

2332
01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:23,720
Charles Barkley's great because 
Charles just doesn't give a shit

2333
01:52:23,720 --> 01:52:25,800
what anybody thinks. 
He don't care. 

2334
01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:29,200
He's got FU money and he's going
to go out there with his boys 

2335
01:52:29,200 --> 01:52:31,480
shack and they're going to get 
into some fights here and there.

2336
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:34,240
And Kenny's going to, you know, 
although the show's not the same

2337
01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:36,920
since they left. 
It's not, you know, Kenny kind 

2338
01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:40,760
of in between, you know, being a
sticking jabs here and there and

2339
01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:43,400
playing the part. 
And I think, I think that show, 

2340
01:52:43,440 --> 01:52:45,800
that was the greatest show of 
all time to me, like the 

2341
01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:47,040
greatest studio show of all 
time. 

2342
01:52:47,480 --> 01:52:48,840
The best. 
Yeah. 

2343
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:51,240
But did you see the picture of 
the glasses? 

2344
01:52:51,320 --> 01:52:53,480
Now, yeah, now I'm seeing it. 
Now I'm seeing it. 

2345
01:52:53,960 --> 01:52:56,920
What the world? 
They're like alien glasses. 

2346
01:52:56,920 --> 01:53:00,160
They're huge. 
Are they peacher? 

2347
01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:02,800
Are they like see through? 
Yeah, maybe that. 

2348
01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:06,120
Yes, maybe that dude. 
Are they because I'm seeing one 

2349
01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:09,320
that have that has like a paper 
mark in the middle or something 

2350
01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:11,480
like Harry Potter or? 
Something Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

2351
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:14,360
He's going to have the little 
grandma chain connector pretty 

2352
01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:17,520
soon, right? 
He's already almost. 

2353
01:53:17,560 --> 01:53:20,360
There, he's got the plastic, 
whatever it's called. 

2354
01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:22,760
Yeah. 
On the back of it. 

2355
01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:24,080
Yeah. 
Come on, it's bad. 

2356
01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:24,960
It's. 
Bad. 

2357
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:27,280
I mean, it's almost like wearing
glasses like this, you know? 

2358
01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:29,440
Like like this. 
You know where on the tip of the

2359
01:53:29,440 --> 01:53:31,840
nose, I do have to get real 
ones. 

2360
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:33,320
These are the cheap ones from 
Walgreens. 

2361
01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:36,960
The lowest, the lowest power. 
You know, you kind of see 

2362
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:41,360
somebody like this. 
Yes, yes, Jalen Brunson last 

2363
01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:45,320
night. 
Yes, the that show's phenomenal.

2364
01:53:45,480 --> 01:53:48,320
But he's not even a clown 
because like, you know, in 

2365
01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:52,080
between the comedy, which is 
what makes them phenomenal, are 

2366
01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:55,680
are real salient points and and 
like, you know, BS like a real 

2367
01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:57,640
his interpret. 
Now, not everybody agrees, but 

2368
01:53:57,880 --> 01:54:01,960
his interpretation of the NBA. 
Now I also do listen. 

2369
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:05,560
Do I think I can't prove this? 
Do I think that a guy like 

2370
01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:08,880
Charles Barkley, I mean, I don't
know this, but I strongly 

2371
01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:11,280
surmise that he's not. 
Do I think that he's sitting 

2372
01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:14,160
there on his off nights, you 
know, watching film and what? 

2373
01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:19,560
There's no way he shows up and 
he gets globs of money to beat 

2374
01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:22,440
Charles Barkley and like, I 
don't think he knows all the 

2375
01:54:22,440 --> 01:54:25,440
rosters and. 
He almost gets money to not 

2376
01:54:25,440 --> 01:54:27,240
watch the games. 
Like, do you know how many clips

2377
01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:29,240
of Charles Barkley? 
They are just going like, who's 

2378
01:54:29,240 --> 01:54:30,480
this guy? 
Who's this guy? 

2379
01:54:30,480 --> 01:54:33,520
Who's this guy? 
Like it almost works out better.

2380
01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:36,640
Yeah, yeah, Shaq's fit in so 
well to that show, too. 

2381
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:40,720
You know, he's hilarious. 
I mean, I love the dynamic and 

2382
01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:43,840
like, growing up, for me, 
obviously it was just like a big

2383
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:46,800
part of like the entertainment 
and watching a game, you know? 

2384
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:49,680
Now it's a little different, I 
say. 

2385
01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:52,120
But like, I also obviously still
enjoy it. 

2386
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:53,920
Love that. 
All right. 

2387
01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:56,120
Let me answer the question by 
the way, from Charles. 

2388
01:54:56,120 --> 01:54:59,000
That was almost, Oh yeah, the 
question. 

2389
01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:02,240
I mean, I don't think there's, I
don't think there's any chance 

2390
01:55:02,240 --> 01:55:04,320
the giants do anything other 
than go for defense. 

2391
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:07,560
I, I really do, you know, all 
right, Kayvon's not going to be 

2392
01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:10,320
here much longer. 
Obviously Abdul Carter started 

2393
01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:12,760
to really flash as the year went
on. 

2394
01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:14,760
You know, a lot of pressures 
early and then he, you know, 

2395
01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:16,520
then he started making more 
impact plays. 

2396
01:55:16,520 --> 01:55:18,920
I, I still think Abdul Carter's 
going to be great. 

2397
01:55:18,920 --> 01:55:21,520
I thought that they, when they 
drafted him third on my home 

2398
01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:24,160
run, loved it. 
I love when they took Jackson 

2399
01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:28,280
Dart and Carter last year. 
So I think Carter's going to be 

2400
01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:29,760
terrific. 
I think Kayvon Thibodeau's going

2401
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:33,120
to be gone now. 
Like to see Sexy Dexy get his 

2402
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:35,440
act together and with Horry, I 
think he's going to coast in a 

2403
01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:37,560
little bit here. 
The numbers support that and 

2404
01:55:37,560 --> 01:55:40,160
somebody like Horrible was going
to, you know, really, you know, 

2405
01:55:40,200 --> 01:55:42,280
kick everybody in the ass. 
But no nonsense here. 

2406
01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:45,520
I think that he'll be motivated 
to play better and for another 

2407
01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:47,320
contract, otherwise he'll be 
gone very soon. 

2408
01:55:47,960 --> 01:55:52,360
I listen, if I'm the Giants, I'm
taking one or two players. 

2409
01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:56,320
I'm taking either Caleb Downs or
I'm taking Sonny Styles, period.

2410
01:55:56,600 --> 01:55:58,680
That's it. 
I you know, I talked about 

2411
01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:01,480
earlier in the show, you know 
about Jeremiah love again, I 

2412
01:56:01,480 --> 01:56:04,280
wouldn't do it. 
I would be stunned as strong. 

2413
01:56:04,280 --> 01:56:07,720
I'd be really surprised given 
the giants history with taking 

2414
01:56:07,720 --> 01:56:10,400
running backs at 2 or if they 
trade with The Jets worth or 

2415
01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:13,320
whatever. 
You know, if they move up. 

2416
01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:17,080
I mean, if Jeremiah love is 
there at 5 is a little different

2417
01:56:17,080 --> 01:56:20,120
than Saquon. 
Not really still top 10, 

2418
01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:23,160
anything about a couple of 
$100,000 like monetarily as you 

2419
01:56:23,160 --> 01:56:25,200
get through and then eventually 
a million or two each year. 

2420
01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:27,920
It's not going to really change 
the economics too much. 

2421
01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:29,800
So I don't think they're doing 
that. 

2422
01:56:29,800 --> 01:56:32,040
Maybe I'm wrong. 
I don't think there's any chance

2423
01:56:32,040 --> 01:56:35,080
that they don't walk away with a
with a power defender. 

2424
01:56:35,120 --> 01:56:36,480
And I don't think it's going to 
be on the edge either. 

2425
01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:38,080
Like I don't think it's not 
going to be Ruben Bain, not 

2426
01:56:38,120 --> 01:56:40,680
going to be Bailey, I don't 
think from Texas Tech. 

2427
01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:42,800
I really don't think, I think 
it's going to be Caleb Downs or 

2428
01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:44,480
I think it's going to be Sonny 
Styles. 

2429
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:47,000
And I think either pick would be
a home run, really. 

2430
01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:49,760
I really wish I was this sure 
about what The Jets were going 

2431
01:56:49,760 --> 01:56:53,520
to do with #2 because I, I, I 
like Reese, but I'm not, I'm not

2432
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:56,320
sure about him. 
And I don't want Bailey to. 

2433
01:56:56,360 --> 01:56:59,400
It just seems too safe. 
I don't love that pick. 

2434
01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:01,800
So I really wish I'm sitting 
here saying, I think for sure 

2435
01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:04,640
The Jets are going to take Sonny
Styles or Caleb Downs instead. 

2436
01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:07,000
I'm saying the Giants. 
So I think that's about it. 

2437
01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:09,000
We, we cranked out two hours 
here today, right? 

2438
01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:11,720
Let's go. 
Here we go. 

2439
01:57:11,720 --> 01:57:13,560
Let's go. 
Last comment. 

2440
01:57:13,640 --> 01:57:16,320
Brent Depreal, BT pal. 
What's up, brother? 

2441
01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:17,880
Love the show. 
Let's go. 

2442
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:20,640
Congratulations on the Yanks. 
My Mets are up next. 

2443
01:57:20,640 --> 01:57:21,360
Can't wait. 
Yeah. 

2444
01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:23,920
Isn't that like an hour? 
Yeah, yeah, right. 

2445
01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:27,080
They'll do the pre game stuff. 
It's on Peacock by the way, so 

2446
01:57:27,080 --> 01:57:29,320
once I can figure out which 
remote it's on, I'll pop them 

2447
01:57:29,320 --> 01:57:32,280
on. 
I still, I still love, I love 

2448
01:57:32,280 --> 01:57:34,880
the opening day introductions 
much like I love. 

2449
01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:37,880
I really think I'm still a kid 
watching that stuff no matter 

2450
01:57:37,880 --> 01:57:39,920
what team it is. 
Obviously more for the Yankees, 

2451
01:57:39,920 --> 01:57:42,880
but and then obviously get to 
the postseason, get the red, 

2452
01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:45,840
white and blue bunting like the 
pomp and circumstance for me of 

2453
01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:48,800
opening day, which is a lot of 
the energy behind where you 

2454
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:50,800
know, the baseball fans getting 
screwed with Netflix and 

2455
01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:54,000
Peacock, which which I get it 
should be on S&Y should have 

2456
01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:55,320
been on yes last night, 
whatever. 

2457
01:57:55,320 --> 01:57:59,160
But I love when they call out 
the players dude. 

2458
01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:03,520
Not love it, come on, it it it 
also last night. 

2459
01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:06,040
This is like a weird thing, but 
like it's showing me man, the 

2460
01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:09,120
high 5. 
That's like base like baseball. 

2461
01:58:09,120 --> 01:58:12,080
They don't really do the DAP UPS
or like I didn't see too many 

2462
01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:15,040
funky handshakes. 
It's just the high 5. 

2463
01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:17,840
Well, you know what? 
It is OK at least. 

2464
01:58:18,040 --> 01:58:20,080
When I was seeing the lineup go 
out. 

2465
01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:22,400
No, I guess you get a lot of 
fist pumps too. 

2466
01:58:22,640 --> 01:58:26,040
Get a lot of fist pumps, right? 
So I'm going to have a little 

2467
01:58:26,040 --> 01:58:28,760
trivia question for you here. 
Who invented the high five? 

2468
01:58:28,760 --> 01:58:30,920
Who is basically responsible for
the high 5? 

2469
01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:34,040
Anybody know that in the 
watching the show there's no 

2470
01:58:34,040 --> 01:58:36,000
way? 
There's no way you know this? 

2471
01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:39,200
I don't know, Babe Ruth. 
Yeah, it's not a bad guest 

2472
01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:40,400
there. 
No, No way. 

2473
01:58:40,400 --> 01:58:42,560
After Babe Ruth, back then, they
wouldn't even celebrate. 

2474
01:58:42,720 --> 01:58:45,080
Oh, really? 
No, I mean you see the footage 

2475
01:58:45,080 --> 01:58:48,560
of like Lou Gehrig or? 
If you were to ask me, I would 

2476
01:58:48,560 --> 01:58:52,280
have guessed the high 5 has been
like a congratulatory sentiment 

2477
01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:56,120
since the 1400s when the kings 
and Knights, but I guess not. 

2478
01:58:56,120 --> 01:58:57,960
You're saying it. 
Was a little joust after? 

2479
01:58:58,200 --> 01:59:01,760
Yeah, a little jousting. 
There, it's like a 70s sixties. 

2480
01:59:02,840 --> 01:59:07,240
It it is a 70s thing. 
So why don't you type this up 

2481
01:59:07,280 --> 01:59:12,280
and don't tell me the answer 
here, just Google who is largely

2482
01:59:12,280 --> 01:59:15,120
responsible for the high 5 in 
Major League Baseball. 

2483
01:59:15,120 --> 01:59:20,000
Don't give me the answer yet. 
And and I believe I believe that

2484
01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:22,680
it's actually Dusty Baker is the
name that's going to pop up. 

2485
01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:25,560
And it was when Hank, Hank Aaron
hit the home run. 

2486
01:59:26,480 --> 01:59:28,440
Wow. 
I got to see this, is there a 

2487
01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:31,160
video of it? 
Yeah, well, there's definitely a

2488
01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:33,800
video of of when he hit #715 to 
pass Babe Ruth. 

2489
01:59:33,800 --> 01:59:35,560
But the. 
Yeah. 

2490
01:59:35,560 --> 01:59:37,400
So that was obviously in the 
70s. 

2491
01:59:37,400 --> 01:59:38,800
I think that. 
When did he break the home run 

2492
01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:41,640
record, 75? 
No, I think it was a little bit 

2493
01:59:41,640 --> 01:59:44,360
earlier than that, maybe 73 or 
74. 

2494
01:59:44,680 --> 01:59:47,120
Either way. 
Dusty Baker, a young Dusty Baker

2495
01:59:47,440 --> 01:59:50,680
was, I think it was on deck. 
And you know Hank, he definitely

2496
01:59:52,120 --> 01:59:55,160
no. 
It says it was October 2nd, 

2497
01:59:55,160 --> 01:59:57,720
1977. 
The baseball season was coming 

2498
01:59:57,720 --> 02:00:01,600
to an end when Dusty Baker, a 
left fielder for the Dodgers, 

2499
02:00:01,600 --> 02:00:05,000
hit his 30th home run, making 
Dodgers the first team. 

2500
02:00:05,320 --> 02:00:08,600
And as Baker approached home 
plate, Glenn Burke, an 

2501
02:00:08,600 --> 02:00:11,880
outfielder and the next at bat, 
raised his hand over his head. 

2502
02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:14,840
OK, OK, so we were conflating a 
few things here. 

2503
02:00:15,000 --> 02:00:16,960
So no, I knew that. 
I knew that Hank Aaron's home 

2504
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:18,560
run wasn't in 77. 
I was. 

2505
02:00:18,560 --> 02:00:20,760
To be fair, I wasn't. 
Got it, got it, got it. 

2506
02:00:20,760 --> 02:00:21,920
No, that no good. 
Good job though. 

2507
02:00:21,920 --> 02:00:23,400
I like the context there. 
Good job by you. 

2508
02:00:23,600 --> 02:00:27,360
I wasn't sure if Dusty had the 
high five with Hank Aaron. 

2509
02:00:27,360 --> 02:00:29,480
I wasn't sure about that, like 
when Hank actually hit the 

2510
02:00:29,480 --> 02:00:33,360
record, but I knew it was Dusty 
and Dusty was responsible for 

2511
02:00:33,360 --> 02:00:35,320
that. 
But if you look at any of the 

2512
02:00:35,320 --> 02:00:39,240
old, you know, like Lou Gehrig 
crossing home plate or Ted 

2513
02:00:39,240 --> 02:00:42,720
Williams or any of these old, 
old Willie Macy's old timers, 

2514
02:00:43,400 --> 02:00:45,240
especially like the black and 
white footage, right? 

2515
02:00:45,840 --> 02:00:48,880
I mean, it's almost like they 
barely nobody would be waiting 

2516
02:00:48,880 --> 02:00:51,080
it Like it would just be like 
say the on deck guy, say Babe 

2517
02:00:51,080 --> 02:00:53,400
Ruth hits a home run Garrick on 
deck or or the other way. 

2518
02:00:53,640 --> 02:00:56,520
It's just be like this, like you
just basically shake hands. 

2519
02:00:56,920 --> 02:00:59,160
And that's so funny. 
Basically no acknowledgement. 

2520
02:00:59,520 --> 02:01:03,760
And then the one thing that they
do do is that they've got the 

2521
02:01:03,760 --> 02:01:08,440
wild celebrations in the dugout,
which I do love for baseball. 

2522
02:01:08,720 --> 02:01:11,960
Like, you know, the Seattle 
Mariners have that big Aquaman 

2523
02:01:11,960 --> 02:01:15,400
thing and they've got the jacket
right. 

2524
02:01:15,960 --> 02:01:18,400
The Mets at the OMG at the Mets 
are still doing that. 

2525
02:01:18,800 --> 02:01:20,720
You know, like I like those 
props. 

2526
02:01:20,760 --> 02:01:23,280
I think that they're fun. 
And if you hit a home run, you 

2527
02:01:23,280 --> 02:01:25,680
come in and like the Red Sox, 
they, I think they throw the guy

2528
02:01:25,680 --> 02:01:29,280
in the little little cart, they 
shove them down the dugout. 

2529
02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:30,520
You know, oh, that's fun, you 
know. 

2530
02:01:30,760 --> 02:01:32,560
Yeah, yeah. 
But like when you actually see 

2531
02:01:32,560 --> 02:01:35,760
guys going through the dugout, 
the amazing thing to me about 

2532
02:01:35,760 --> 02:01:38,960
these celebrations is how 
choreographed they are and how 

2533
02:01:38,960 --> 02:01:41,840
they like Aaron Judge and 
everybody Lenore, everybody I 

2534
02:01:41,840 --> 02:01:44,960
see every night, they've got 
different handshakes with with 

2535
02:01:44,960 --> 02:01:48,040
every different player. 
Some are like this and like this

2536
02:01:48,040 --> 02:01:50,880
and they're going like this, 
like how do you remember it? 

2537
02:01:50,880 --> 02:01:53,360
And do you actually, you have to
practice it Like there's no way 

2538
02:01:53,400 --> 02:01:56,400
you just bust into a routine 
like, you know, without knowing 

2539
02:01:56,400 --> 02:01:58,800
what you're going to do and 
anticipating what I'm going to 

2540
02:01:58,800 --> 02:02:00,720
do. 
So I mean, how much time do they

2541
02:02:00,720 --> 02:02:02,680
actually spend? 
If they have like 10 different 

2542
02:02:02,680 --> 02:02:03,440
handshakes, it's. 
Great. 

2543
02:02:03,600 --> 02:02:07,000
That was like my always my thing
with LeBron is like he's got 

2544
02:02:07,000 --> 02:02:09,720
handshakes with dudes who aren't
even on his team, like him and 

2545
02:02:09,720 --> 02:02:12,840
Jason Tatum or like him. 
And you know, some, I mean, 

2546
02:02:12,840 --> 02:02:15,560
obviously Kyrie, you're like 
some, some dude like that'll 

2547
02:02:15,560 --> 02:02:19,240
have a handshake and you're just
like, yeah, like when did what? 

2548
02:02:19,240 --> 02:02:22,400
Just like during TMUSA practice,
you just quickly cooked this 

2549
02:02:22,400 --> 02:02:23,400
thing up. 
I know. 

2550
02:02:23,480 --> 02:02:24,400
Exactly. 
So it's fun. 

2551
02:02:24,400 --> 02:02:24,880
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

2552
02:02:25,760 --> 02:02:28,360
All right, man, Let me and and 
did have one more there. 

2553
02:02:28,360 --> 02:02:29,600
What do we got there? 
Thanks BT. 

2554
02:02:29,600 --> 02:02:34,000
Super chat from Barclay. 
Another thank you, Charles. 

2555
02:02:34,840 --> 02:02:37,000
I don't think he's going to. 
I mean, you really can't start 

2556
02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:38,280
slower. 
The only way you would have is 

2557
02:02:38,280 --> 02:02:39,480
if you would have whipped five 
times. 

2558
02:02:39,480 --> 02:02:43,240
But no, I mean, I even said 
yesterday I'm like Aaron Judge, 

2559
02:02:43,240 --> 02:02:44,480
more or less. 
One of the themes on the show 

2560
02:02:44,520 --> 02:02:48,160
yesterday was let's not even 
though we're going to let's 

2561
02:02:48,160 --> 02:02:51,200
maybe tap the brakes on reacting
to every baseball game like it's

2562
02:02:51,200 --> 02:02:53,600
a football game, right? 
And I haven't necessarily heard 

2563
02:02:53,600 --> 02:02:55,760
that today about Aaron Judge. 
I haven't listened to the radio.

2564
02:02:55,760 --> 02:02:57,120
I've just done what I've done 
today. 

2565
02:02:57,560 --> 02:03:00,320
But you know, I'm sure there's 
some Yankee fans overreacting on

2566
02:03:00,320 --> 02:03:01,880
social media. 
I don't. 

2567
02:03:01,880 --> 02:03:03,840
And I don't even think that 
that's an overreaction because, 

2568
02:03:03,880 --> 02:03:05,600
you know, he could start slow. 
It is baseball. 

2569
02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:08,480
You never know. 
And he has started slow before. 

2570
02:03:08,480 --> 02:03:10,760
I think at the end of the day, 
when it when April's all said 

2571
02:03:10,760 --> 02:03:14,960
and done, I'm not saying he's 
hitting 390 or 410, but I would 

2572
02:03:14,960 --> 02:03:18,240
think that he's going to have, 
you know, 8-9 home runs, 20 

2573
02:03:18,240 --> 02:03:21,520
something RBI's and be on course
when he heats up for three month

2574
02:03:21,520 --> 02:03:24,560
Bender that he's invariably 
going to go on to wrap up his 

2575
02:03:24,560 --> 02:03:28,440
fourth MVP. 
I think that Aaron Judge will if

2576
02:03:28,440 --> 02:03:31,800
it's oh, he's healthy, have 50 
plus home runs and have an OPS 

2577
02:03:31,800 --> 02:03:37,880
closer to 11 than than 1000. 
OK, and, you know, 118 to 125 

2578
02:03:38,080 --> 02:03:41,880
RBI's and, you know, lead the 
league in OPS and have the best 

2579
02:03:42,000 --> 02:03:45,920
OPS plus have the best WAR, 
probably closer to 9, you know, 

2580
02:03:45,920 --> 02:03:49,600
nine and a half, 8910, something
like that and score well over 

2581
02:03:49,600 --> 02:03:52,480
100 runs and win the MVP. 
You know, there we go. 

2582
02:03:52,480 --> 02:03:54,480
And then that again, that won't 
be enough because he's got to do

2583
02:03:54,480 --> 02:03:57,080
it in October. 
You know, for a lot of people, 

2584
02:03:57,400 --> 02:03:59,240
you know, I get it. 
You know, I want to see Judge 

2585
02:03:59,240 --> 02:04:00,920
win. 
And if he doesn't, there's going

2586
02:04:00,920 --> 02:04:02,760
to be a lot of shrapnel that 
comes his way. 

2587
02:04:02,760 --> 02:04:04,960
But as I hit yesterday, if you 
guys missed it, check it out. 

2588
02:04:05,480 --> 02:04:07,280
There's only so much you got 
like Aaron Judge could do 

2589
02:04:07,280 --> 02:04:10,280
because you know, unlike a 
basketball player like a LeBron 

2590
02:04:10,280 --> 02:04:14,000
or Kobe or an MJ or any great 
player, you've taken 20 plus 

2591
02:04:14,000 --> 02:04:16,240
shots a night and then you have 
all those defensive 

2592
02:04:16,240 --> 02:04:19,560
opportunities, You know, whether
it's help defense or on the ball

2593
02:04:19,560 --> 02:04:21,360
deep and whatever it might be, 
rebound assist. 

2594
02:04:21,360 --> 02:04:24,400
I mean, you could do anything 
just based on the usage rate and

2595
02:04:24,400 --> 02:04:27,240
how much you touch the ball over
the course of an NBA game, NBA 

2596
02:04:27,240 --> 02:04:29,720
Finals, right, versus the amount
of it bats. 

2597
02:04:30,000 --> 02:04:31,600
And I literally went through the
math yesterday. 

2598
02:04:31,600 --> 02:04:34,600
You know, if Aaron Judge is in 
the World Series and the Yankees

2599
02:04:34,600 --> 02:04:37,600
losing 7 and he gets destroyed, 
well, let's go. 

2600
02:04:37,600 --> 02:04:40,600
You know, sometimes 4 is 28. 
All right, let's go. 

2601
02:04:40,600 --> 02:04:42,120
Maybe a couple of walks mixed 
in. 

2602
02:04:42,120 --> 02:04:46,120
Let's give him 3334 plate 
appearances over the course of 

2603
02:04:46,120 --> 02:04:48,800
the of the game, of the season, 
of the of the series. 

2604
02:04:49,120 --> 02:04:52,520
And then, you know, maybe two or
three balls hit too many 

2605
02:04:52,520 --> 02:04:56,400
outfield. 
So 7 * 3 is 20, one 7 * 4 is 28.

2606
02:04:56,400 --> 02:04:58,600
You mix in a couple of walks, 
you're talking about sixty 

2607
02:04:58,600 --> 02:05:01,960
chances to do something. 
Whereas you know somebody like 

2608
02:05:01,960 --> 02:05:03,880
Jordan or Jaylen Brunson for the
Knicks. 

2609
02:05:03,880 --> 02:05:06,600
Now Jalen's going to take 20 
plus shots the first game he 

2610
02:05:06,600 --> 02:05:07,880
plays. 
He just is. 

2611
02:05:08,440 --> 02:05:10,680
Yeah, so easily so. 
It's a little different 

2612
02:05:10,680 --> 02:05:12,920
evaluation for me, but not for 
everybody. 

2613
02:05:12,960 --> 02:05:14,040
All right? 
I got to bounce, man. 

2614
02:05:14,040 --> 02:05:17,760
I, I got to finish packing here,
get ready to head down to DC 

2615
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:19,240
today. 
Little later in the show. 

2616
02:05:19,240 --> 02:05:22,320
I'll be on my with my buddy 
Jimmy Fala, if you guys want to 

2617
02:05:22,320 --> 02:05:23,960
check that out. 
Fox across America. 

2618
02:05:24,200 --> 02:05:25,920
He wanted to talk some St. 
John's and Dukes. 

2619
02:05:25,920 --> 02:05:30,440
So I'm like, Yep, let's do it. 
So I am going to, we're going to

2620
02:05:30,480 --> 02:05:32,520
actually, to be fair, we're 
going to record that today and 

2621
02:05:32,760 --> 02:05:34,360
we're going to run that tomorrow
for those guys. 

2622
02:05:34,360 --> 02:05:36,560
So I'm going to do that around 
3:30. 

2623
02:05:36,560 --> 02:05:38,880
Then I'll pretty much get in the
car, start heading down to DC, 

2624
02:05:38,880 --> 02:05:40,280
go to St. 
John's hotel. 

2625
02:05:40,720 --> 02:05:43,320
We'll get you some content 
tomorrow morning and then 

2626
02:05:43,320 --> 02:05:46,600
obviously, hopefully with the 
Mink man, I think Nikki's going 

2627
02:05:46,600 --> 02:05:48,600
to jump on at some point. 
Again, Nikki Lauderulo, she's 

2628
02:05:48,600 --> 02:05:50,880
down there. 
She was at she'll be at practice

2629
02:05:50,880 --> 02:05:53,840
today and the press conferences 
and all that stuff and open 

2630
02:05:53,840 --> 02:05:55,800
shoot around. 
So I'll get there tonight. 

2631
02:05:55,840 --> 02:05:58,560
I'll do some stuff tomorrow. 
The game tomorrow night, if the 

2632
02:05:58,560 --> 02:06:01,560
Johnnies win, stay there through
the weekend, play either 

2633
02:06:01,560 --> 02:06:04,560
Michigan State or UConn. 
God, just please give me St. 

2634
02:06:04,560 --> 02:06:07,320
John's and U Conn for the right 
to get to the Final Four. 

2635
02:06:07,320 --> 02:06:09,480
Give me that, please. 
I know I don't want to get 

2636
02:06:09,480 --> 02:06:10,680
greedy. 
Basketball guys. 

2637
02:06:10,680 --> 02:06:13,400
I waited a long time. 
You gave us Rick Pitino. 

2638
02:06:13,480 --> 02:06:15,560
You gave us a couple of the 
championships for the Big East 

2639
02:06:15,560 --> 02:06:17,440
tournament. 
You gave us a couple of wins 

2640
02:06:17,440 --> 02:06:20,280
this year. 
We're in the Sweet 16 in DC. 

2641
02:06:20,280 --> 02:06:21,040
close. 
St. 

2642
02:06:21,040 --> 02:06:22,520
John's fan. 
Yeah, you hooked us up. 

2643
02:06:22,520 --> 02:06:23,960
I get it. 
Basketball gods. 

2644
02:06:24,360 --> 02:06:26,160
But I'm going to be greedy. 
I need more. 

2645
02:06:26,160 --> 02:06:28,760
I need to be in Indianapolis for
the Final Four. 

2646
02:06:29,000 --> 02:06:32,160
I need to be Duke. 
That would be as much pleasure. 

2647
02:06:33,080 --> 02:06:36,960
The only thing that would exceed
that would be beating UConn and 

2648
02:06:36,960 --> 02:06:38,720
all their fan Husky fans. 
I love you. 

2649
02:06:38,760 --> 02:06:40,440
You programmed. 
I got respect for. 

2650
02:06:40,440 --> 02:06:41,160
I got. 
I do. 

2651
02:06:41,560 --> 02:06:44,400
But you guys get a little too 
squawky, too much, you know what

2652
02:06:44,400 --> 02:06:46,320
I mean? 
I'd love to put you guys in a 

2653
02:06:46,320 --> 02:06:49,800
body bag and send you back to 
Connecticut as St. 

2654
02:06:49,800 --> 02:06:54,680
John's and me and I or whatever.
Get ready to go to Indianapolis 

2655
02:06:54,680 --> 02:06:58,360
for the Final Four. 
Man, please. 

2656
02:06:58,360 --> 02:06:59,680
Just a couple of more gifts 
here. 

2657
02:06:59,680 --> 02:07:01,200
Let's go. 
All right, so I will see you 

2658
02:07:01,200 --> 02:07:03,600
tomorrow when I see you. 
Have a great rest of your day, J

2659
02:07:03,600 --> 02:07:05,440
Rod, good work out of you. 
Good bounce back. 

2660
02:07:05,680 --> 02:07:07,200
Have an awesome day. 
Like it. 

2661
02:07:07,200 --> 02:07:10,200
Subscribe and check out The Jets
collective sub on that. 

2662
02:07:10,200 --> 02:07:12,640
Like that. 
Check out the content and I will

2663
02:07:12,640 --> 02:07:17,320
see you tomorrow from DC, the 
site of the Sweet 16 for St. 

2664
02:07:17,320 --> 02:07:19,200
John's and Duke Peace.
