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BT Unleashed All right, so school is in session and today
the student out of the shoot is my guy, J Rod.
J Rod, what's happened? I got a quick pop quiz for you
all. Right I'm.
Ready now? Did you like pop quizzes when
you were in school? You know what I think I, I feel
like I always ended up doing pretty well on the pop quiz
because I feel like the pop quiz, they always let it be a
little easier than like the regular quiz.
So I feel like I always did all right on them.
Oh, God, I hate. I started sweating when I would
hear, you know, one of the nuns say, all right, boys and girls,
you got pop quiz. I'd start getting nervous, all
right, because I probably wasn't ready.
All right, So there's no right or wrong answer for this
particular pop quiz, right? And this will lead to our
conversation for the first topic.
By the way, the show's going to be a little shorter today.
I know I mentioned yesterday, probably the day before as well.
I've got to get out of here. I've got a big speaking
engagement with Verizon. So I got a suit up, I got a
shower suit up, and I got to get out to the Verizon headquarters,
which I can't wait to do. It's going to be phenomenal.
So it's going to be a little shorter than usual.
All right there, Mr. Jared, Mr. J Rod, the question is this on
the pop quiz? If I say to you, Jared, what are
the three built in inherent advantages that the NFL seems to
enjoy over the other sports? So the three things that they
have going for that really without even trying, OK, that's
just kind of naturally fits their sport, you know, you know,
a little residue of luck here. Give me let's take you through
the thought process. Let's get to a three, three-part
answer. Three things.
No, no order, no right or wrong. What are you thinking here,
buddy? So I think the first one is
definitely their position as an American League.
I think that apparently just gives you, you know, an American
fan base built in to your sport. Interesting, interesting.
You know, so I guess a strong national pride tied to your
sport would be one of my answers.
OK. I wasn't even thinking about
that. I'm going to actually circle
back to that because that's a very interesting answer, but go
ahead. I'd say the spacing out of
nationally televised games, I think it, it allows for a high
audience, you know, sort of watch per each product you
watch. You know, NBA, they have 82
games. It's spaced out.
You're not going to have as many fans engaging with each game and
fewer games, more people engaging.
Got one more force here. All right, let's see.
Although that's a good one, I'm going to get back to both of
those. I think that that last one is
absolutely on my list. And and that's the greater point
here. But do you have one more for us?
You know, I'll put you on the spot when when I tell you, when
I tell you, you're gonna probably say, oh, how did I not
think of that? But give me one more guess.
I want to see if you can come up with it.
What do you got? So domestically, if it's with
America and, and, and there's an element of scarcity because it's
it's it's not every day. So OK, go ahead.
Good start. All right.
Third one, let me let me try to conjure something.
Let's get nervous. This is what I by the way, this
is when I start looking over somebody's shoulder trying to
get an answer in school. No.
What do they? Got what do they got the that's
kind of the mode I'm in right now, but I'm OK.
Let me just let me give it a let me give it a a shot.
I guess the marketability of the actual game of the sport itself,
just because it kind of sets itself apart with the
physicality and the need or. OK, So what if I was?
If I was to convince that, would you say violence?
Yeah, OK, yes, I'd say I'd say it's the only violent sport that
really presides within like you know you're common watching
space other than UFC or boxing. Yes, yes, sport.
So it. OK, Yep, Yep, rather than the
one-on-one combat sports great answers you so you passed.
I don't know if you got an A, but you absolutely passed here.
Now before I actually get to my list and and again, the the
bigger issue here. So the first thing that you
said, I almost think that that is a bit of a disadvantage
because when you talk about like the domestic success and how it
plays in America and all that stuff.
And you contrast that to say like the NBA, where there's
great European influence, which which obviously has led to the
globalization of the game, whether it's a Luca, whether
it's a joker out there in Denver.
You know, I and, and even, you know, not that the NHL is nearly
as popular as the NFL, but it's, it's obviously got a cross set
of Canada's represented obviously Europe as well,
baseball, Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, Japan's influence.
Now that was an interesting first answer.
Let me give you, and again, no right or wrong, let me give you
my three very succinctly #1 gambling #2 violence and #3
scarcity. OK, so having said those, those
are things that you can't really necessarily create.
It's not like those are born out of some amazing vision by former
commissioners or the current commissioner.
It's they kind of just got lucky, like circumstantially the
way the game is set up. We love violence.
We we love controlled violence, but we love violence, right?
And we love to gamble. And I don't think there's a more
enjoyable sport to gamble on than football.
I've gambled on everything, not as much, not nearly as much as I
used to and always responsibly. And I had, you know, Full
disclosure, a great lengthy multi year relationship with
FanDuel going back to my days at at WFAN, right?
So to me, when you're going to sit down and gamble, you know,
to gamble on a baseball game over under first couple of
innings -1 1/2 run line. I'm not saying that you can't
win. I'm saying of enjoyment.
To me, it doesn't strike me as the same.
If you want to bet the over in the NBA, that's fun because
there's a lot of points. You want to bet the over in
hockey, you know, four and a half, 5 1/2 goals, whatever it
might be. But the day-to-day gambling,
whether it's fantasy fantasy football or just over unders or
round Robins or reverses or anything else that you want to
bet on with the NFLI think it's a built in mechanism that makes
the NFL inherently and profitable and incredibly and
inherently appealing. So as I give you my short list
here again, the violence, the gambling and the scarcity, do me
a favor. Pop that up there the the
Barrett media. I know Schefter had this first.
I want to give some love to my guys over at Barrett Media.
They always take care of us and they always take care of me.
So this report came out yesterday.
Keep this up for a little bit, Jay Ron, the NF LS reportedly
considering Thanksgiving eve game as soon as this coming
season. So if if implemented, the
additional contest would take place on November 25, 2026 and
would represent another step in the NF LS broader effort to
stretch its schedule across more days of the week.
Now you can take it down. Thank you, Jared.
So you think about those three things.
It's less violent than it used to be and partly out of
necessity. I, I want to be fair to the NFL,
concussions, head, head trauma, all that stuff.
And you, you want to keep your quarterbacks healthy.
You want to take your skill, but you want to keep your skill
position guys healthy so late hits over the middle toward a
receiver, whatever. I get that.
The world's changed. There's more information, you
know, going back to the concussion movie years ago with
Will Smith, right? And the more we probe medically,
the more we understand that obviously, you know, brain
trauma is irreversible and it's a real thing.
So while it's been softened a bit violence, it's still
violent. You're still getting hard hits.
And that's a good thing, right? The gambling has not changed.
But what I just read to you right there is just a massive
illumination of #1 how greedy the NFL is.
That goes without saying. But I think more specifically
how little they care about you. So when you, when you think
about the, the, the word scarcity, the reason why the
NFL, one of the reasons is you know, is, is a monster is
because you can Rev up, right? Your Rev up Now, I don't mean
like the, the national games, but your team plays once a week.
Sometimes if they play a Sunday night or Sunday and then
Thursday, it's like twice within a week.
But for the most part it's once a week, right?
And what happens with that? There's an incredible amount of
energy that you can exert and direct to the product because
when you do that, you know, the food, the gambling, the jerseys,
the tailgate, having people over watching The Jets or the Giants
or the Niners and the Raiders. And they're all these all these
teams, all these different vibrant fan bases.
And I've got something on the fan bases a little bit.
There was a study that was released that I find very
interesting that we'll get into. But the again, the built in
advantage with that is that you basically play once a week.
So you exert all this energy, but then the average fan is able
to regenerate and the way it really goes and you know, this
has been my entire career and primarily spent the New York,
although I've obviously done a lot of national work and I was
in in, in in San Francisco for a minute to an Anthony drive.
So it was all Niners and Raiders, right.
But you have a game on Sunday at 1 generally on the air on Friday
it's and even really Thursdays and Wednesday you kind of turn
the page, coaches talk, you get the press conferences, the
injury reports and all that stuff.
And then the new week starts on Thursday with the Thursday night
game. But specific to your team, you
know, you are just you are riled up and you are foaming at the
mass, especially if you have a good team.
Now, obviously there's an element of apathy that's going
to creep in all these years watching The Jets and you know,
the Giants who now have horrible or the Raiders before Brady got
there. And of course Mendoza is going
to be the first overall pick. And but there are bad teams and
even a fan base like the Browns who are great.
There's an element, they won't admit this and you won't
necessarily see this on social media, But with the bad, even
with football, the monster, there's a little, you know,
apathy that that sets in when all you do is lose.
It's just hard to conjure up that emotion that unless it's
just contrived the motion or you want to sit around and have 10
beers and bet $2000 that you don't have it.
It's when when you don't watch and root for a good team, it
it's a little harder. But in large part, you know,
Thursday and Friday, you getting ready for Sunday.
And then what you do on Monday is you react to Sunday.
And then maybe there's a a quarterback controversy or, you
know, a coach begins to enter the sphere of being on the hot
seat. And now that kind of seeps into
the Tuesday conversation. And then by Wednesday, you know,
because we're resilient sports fans, we start rolling up the
sleeves. We hear the coach speak and we
start getting ready for the next game.
So when you're talking about violence, gambling and scarcity,
those are things that no other sport in America has.
And the NFL, once again, is telling you that they don't give
a rat's behind about you because I don't know.
I don't know about you now. When I was growing up, we
basically always had Thanksgiving, right?
It was almost always at my, sometimes at my aunt's in
Brooklyn, but it was always at my mom and dad's house in
Brooklyn. Now that I'm married and my wife
is from Texas, we go to Dallas every single Thanksgiving.
Now, sometimes, sometimes my wife will fly out with the kids
on a Tuesday and then I'll I'll, I'll join them on Wednesday or a
couple times because of work. I've had some Saint John's game,
some tournaments over the year. Maybe I'll fly it on Thursday
morning, whatever. I'm not even really talking
about me. But if you think about the
largest travel day of the year, which is obviously Thanksgiving,
the NFL, and it's not like will they do it?
It's when will they do it? And it looks like they'll do.
It's coming up this year, just like they did on Black Friday.
They just continuously interrupt the family values.
And I'm not, I'm not trying to sound holier than thou, but I
got to be honest with you. As much as I love football, even
like if, when, if The Jets are ever really good again, right?
Do I really want to be distracted with The Jets game on
Thanksgiving? And they've had a couple.
I've gone to a couple. I went to the one at whatever it
was 2010, something like that at MetLife against the against the
Bengals on on Thanksgiving night.
Now that was different. No kids matter of fact that was
really different because I remember I was up in is a unique
Side Story. I was up in Bristol, CT is when
I was working with ESPN 1050 and Colin Cowherd big star obviously
with with Fox for a long time. FS1.
Well, he was one of the big stars that at ESPN, as many of
you probably remember, and he was taking off for a couple of
days and I was doing my local stuff on 1050 Dodd and K that
station right, a couple of years after I was working with Stephen
A and they said, Hey, would you like to come up to Bristol and
host for common, you know, for I So that would have been on
Wednesday before and Thursday 100% in great opportunity, which
also speaks to to the young broadcasters out there being
hungry and not just saying, well, it's Thanksgiving.
No, no, Yep, I'll be there. What what time you need me?
What's the accommodation? So I remember they put me up in
like and my wife and I in this, no, we weren't even married yet.
We were engaged in a extended stay hotel and it was great.
And I remember Thursday, we actually, because I did the show
with Calvin and we we ate Thanksgiving at McDonald's on
the way. That's that's actually sad and
and equally amazing. And we were driving back from
from Bristol, CT into New Jersey because we lived in Hoboken at
the time to go to the game. Now that didn't really impact
me. No kids.
It was a great work opportunity. Not even yet married.
But the dynamics then compared to now are very different and
they're very different for many of you.
So I just, I, I don't want to say I don't understand why they
keep doing this because I clearly do.
Because they're greedy slobs. That's all they are.
That's all the NFL is. They don't care about you.
They don't care about you at all.
Think about the ticket prices and the PS:.
LSI told the story. I'm not going to get into a much
now because it's a short one, but we went to The Jets Browns
game this past year went to two Jet games, right?
My father-in-law is from Ohio. So they were playing the Browns
and I got tickets for all of us. They were in for their wedding
anniversary and I was able to do a solid get good seats.
We had access to the club. So even though it was raining,
it was a great day. Jets won couple of special teams
returns. Family had a great time.
I pull up. This is The Jets.
We're not talking about the 49ers or the Dallas Cowboys.
We're talking about the moribund Jets and I pull into the parking
lot in the latest he's like, that'll be $100 Sir, $100 to
park. Now I'm not cheap, but I'm also
not, you know, independently wealthy.
Now I I mean, I can obviously spare 100 bucks like I did the
tickets, but it's ridiculous how they bend you over as fans.
You want to get a beer? 12 bucks, 16 bucks, whatever it
is hot dogs, 7-8 bucks. PS LS as I said, exorbitant
ticket prices. Now you can circumvent that on
the secondary market. I understand it, but that's also
a different, that's a different mindset.
The way I am is now, I think it would be different if it's just
me. But like, if I'm going to a game
with my family, I don't want to be scurrying last second to
like, oh, OK, did I get the seats?
I want to have the tickets in my, you know, in my phone
digitally. And by the way, J Rod, look at
that. Look what we look what we're
starting to make here. You see that?
How always? Well, we got our ways I I got to
get you one, but this will be available on the in the digital
store as we open that hopefully by first pitch Major League
season. The hats, the hoodies, the
beanies and all that stuff. But I, I just prefer to have
everything planned out because I'm a planned out kind of a guy.
Many of you, I know Evan does this a lot like he'll wait it
out and I respect it. I, I just don't want to do that.
So you could get a deal on tickets at this point, but the
ultimate point is that they just shove these games down your
throat. There's a game Sunday night,
there's a game Monday night, There's a game Thursday.
There's a game Saturday. As you get deeper in the season,
obviously Sunday is basically from 1:00 until midnight if you
watch all the games, right. And then now, alright,
Thanksgiving, there's a tradition, the Cowboys, the
Lions, I love that. And I've been to both of those.
I went to the Cowboys game this year in Dallas and I went to
the, I went to a Lions game when I was working in Detroit in the
early 2000s. And, and if you could do that, I
would, I would recommend that you should.
It's pretty cool. But, and then they added the
third game, which is, which is at night, which is fine because,
you know, you stuff your face, you have a couple of drinks.
Grandpa falls asleep with his mouth open on the couch.
At least my grandfather used to fall asleep.
His mouth will be open. Look it up at the sky.
And it's there if you want it and it's not.
And if you don't want it, just, you know, do it, play games with
the family, whatever. But it's just too much.
And it's another reminder that they just don't care what you
want. They don't care what you need.
They don't care what you think. It's just football, football,
football, football because somebody's willing to pay for
it. Same with Black Friday and same
with all the the Games in London, which I absolutely
detest. I think it's ridiculous and I'm
not going to get this is a different rant that I'm not
going to get into it too much. Now.
I just can't because I've done it enough and it's exhausting
and I I can't replicate that. I can't faint emotion.
But when I do get into this, like I'm not going to fake it,
it drives me nuts because I've got inherently an issue with
taking our sport and giving it to other countries.
Now some of you will say, oh, look, look at the loudmouth
American. So territorial.
That's right, I am territorial and I I am American and it's our
sport. It's nobody else's sport.
Like I'm not that I would even want it.
But do you see, you know, other European sports?
And I'm not talking about a soccer friendly, which is cool
giving us regular season games. I mean unless I'm wrong is
Liverpool instead of I don't know what they play in front of
100,000 people whatever they imagine them taking a regular
season game and just and again, if they have that, I stand
corrected. I don't think they have.
I know about the friendlies, but playing a game at Levi Stadium
in San Francisco regular season, not an exhibition or AT&T in
Dallas or MetLife in front of 80 or 90,000 people and depriving
the home fan base one regular season game.
Imagine that. Well, no, you don't because it
doesn't really happen, but it does happen in the NFL and it it
started here's the here's the thing this This is why you know
it's only going to get worse and worse and I love sports.
Okay, I've made a good living so far doing sports, and I'm going
to make a better living doing this, talking about sports, but
I got to keep it real. And it's like, you give them an
inch, they're going to take 10 yards because it started out
just just send the shitty Jaguars to London.
Nobody cares. And you're right, nobody did
care because it's a little tiny teeny piece of Florida.
And I love Florida, no disrespect.
And Duvall and I get it, they're good fans, but when they started
sending them, they were wretched.
So nobody really missed it, OK? Because you'd have empty seats
in Jacksonville anyway. But it went from the Jaguars
going to London to now the Green Bay Packers.
The Green Bay Packers, one of our most cherished, cherished
American sporting properties. Now we're taking a game away
from the Lambeau faithful and giving it to people in London.
Why? To make money.
And that's all this is about. So Thanksgiving Eve, when you're
trying to sit around and you're trying to enjoy your family, it
it's going to be a little more complicated Now maybe you're
lucky all right, and I'm lucky in this sense.
So my, my in laws, they're all massive football fans, big great
sport fans. They understand the deal.
You know, so obviously we went to the Cowboys game this past
year, but the Cowboys game, we might, we might record it, we
might eat and then not not know what's going on and then boom,
we jump into it. We catch up through the
commercials, right. So that, that works for me, but
my, my sister is the opposite. All right, My sister is the
absolute and she's amazing, but she's the absolute definition of
a scholar. She's working on a second or
maybe even a third degree currently at Oxford University.
I mean, she, I don't know why I really sometimes I question if
we came for the same family. I've said that before, I know we
do and I know we did. And her, her room was 15 feet
down the hall from mine. But like what, what, how, how
she approaches academia compared to what I I did.
I mean, I was looking for every shortcut.
She'd she'd be a professional student if you let her.
And I say that because I remember we got engaged, my wife
and I, and we were living in Hoboken and my sister was had a
nice place in, in Manhattan, right.
And we had we didn't go to Dallas this particular year.
So my sister made a great, great Thanksgiving beautiful
apartment. And I'm getting antsy.
I'm like, we got and she just doesn't like football.
And she really didn't want to put the game on while we while
we're eating. Meanwhile, my wife's a Cowboys
fan and the Cowboys are playing. I'm like, what are we doing?
What's going on? So I say that and we didn't
really get to watch it the way we wanted to.
I say that because there are some families that just don't
want to interrupt the holiday for football, and I think it's
even less important than it used to be.
So, you know, this, this is just, this is a problem and it
it really bothers me. And I just feel compelled to
stick up and stand up for many of you because you guys don't
have the voice to do it. Now.
The problem is there's no recourse.
I could bark at the moon like Ozzy Osbourne.
I could scream all day and night.
Ain't going to change it. They're not going to listen to,
they're not going to change their their business model
because BT Unleashed is unhappy and they didn't change it when
BT was unhappy with this on WFAN.
So they're not going to change it.
But it is just another reminder that they don't give a shit
about you and somebody's got to say it.
And I'm not the only one. To be fair, I'm not.
All right, what's up, BT? What's going on, Justin?
How you doing, pal? Can't wait for the live show.
Oh, you're driving in from Delaware.
That is awesome, ma'am. But you are from Long Island.
So cool with me. That is great.
Hey, let's slap it up there. J Rod.
See, if J Rod was on point today like he was yesterday, the BT
and Sal promo page would have already splashed on that A boy,
that very nicely done. Even though we do look like a
couple of I don't know what we look like in that picture.
We we got to get a new picture. Carl Banks will be there.
It's gonna be phenomenal. April 2nd.
It's Apple. OK, He's awesome.
Awesome venue. Long Island.
So that's where sales from. So sales people better step up
and represent and make sure we sell this thing.
We got some more tickets to sell off to a good start.
Plenty of seats available, good sized venue.
Sold out the first one April 2nd.
And it's going to be awesome with Carl because those of you
who follow BT and Sal and certainly follow me, you
understand what happened back in the day with Carl on WFAN.
So it's a big coup for us to be able to come full circle, get
Carl in and, and symbolically let everybody know.
All right, got off the rails that day.
But hey, we're going to break some bread, have a couple of
drinks. Carl's a great guy.
We've I've known him forever, as I've said.
So that's coming up. Can't wait to see you drive
safely from Delaware. I mean, am I, am I wrong with
anything that I just said? Like was there was there not an
ounce of truth? And what was just said here?
I just don't get it. I well, no, I take that bitch.
I'm sorry, Jake. I get it.
I understand it. I just resist it.
Go ahead, buddy. No, I mean, you're telling the
truth there. But like you said, nothing's
going to change the the the conquest for for greater money
will never cease. Yeah, you're right.
It's sad. You know, you nailed it.
I mean, it's it's all about, you know, stretching the dollar as
far as you can. But but like at what expense?
All right, so you welcome in another part of the world, which
which is fine, but if you start to alienate, which I believe
that they have for a while now, if you continue to alienate,
alienate the core fan base that helped elevate your sport to the
number one spot atop of the sporting pecking order, perch.
Well, then what are you doing? You know, what are you doing?
And and it just drives me nuts. I really, I just don't like it.
I was thinking about this the other day, right?
And some people, because I've I've kind of gotten into this
now this is new with Thanksgiving Eve, but like Black
Friday and Christmas Day and not the NBA because the NBA, let me
let me be clear about something. The NBA is a different watch.
OK, You know what I'm saying, Jared?
You love the NBA. That's your favorite sport?
I love the NBA, but it's a different watch where even if
you're a die hard, all right, if you're like the biggest fan of
of all time, you're not going to miss a game.
But even if you're like a die hard fan, you'll still probably
end up catching 70 out of 82 games or.
Something well, you'll get yes. Oh, for sure.
Like you're not. Clamoring to watch Knicks versus
Jazz like. I watched some of that last
night. Knicks gave up 41 points in the
first quarter and they came back in once.
I can't crush him. But you see, my point is like,
it's a different energy that you exert when you watch basketball.
Same with baseball. The Yanks and the Mets and
baseball there every night for me, the Knicks are there 82 * a
year. I'm not a huge hockey fan, but
you know, Rangers, Isles, Devils, every team 82 games as
well. And, and, and again, that's why
I use the word scarcity pertaining to this conversation.
It's a built in advantage for the NFL.
But when, when the, when the NBA, even the Knicks, when the
NBA is on, on Christmas Day, you know, we do the whole tradition.
Everybody's gotten the flannel pajamas and sipping around
having coffee and seeing what Santa brought, tearing through
gifts. I can and then like my parents
come over. I can watch the Knicks and be
half dialed in. I really like it's, it's a
different level of urgency. And again, it's a different
level of energy. Like if The Jets were good in
December and they're playing the Patriots, or they're they're
playing the Bills or they're playing Miami, or they're
playing Mahomes and the Chiefs, or they're playing the Ravens
and Lamar. And it's a game that matters and
it's The Jets and it's Christmas.
I got a problem because now I'm either going to have to
disconnect myself from my family, which I really don't
want to do, or I've got to disconnect myself from the game
that matters, which I also really don't want to.
Yeah. So sucks man.
Sucks, you know, and, and I was thinking, I don't know why I was
thinking about this, but you keep that up.
I'll get to in a minute. I was thinking about this the
other day. I think about very interesting
things at very odd times. I'm coming.
I don't know why this popped into my head.
I'm coming down the stairs the other day and, you know, it's a
flight where it comes down like maybe this from upstairs down to
our, our main rooms, maybe 10, yeah, maybe about 10 steps.
Then it's got like a fairly big platform, right?
Bannister looking over the big room to grant the, the, the, the
main room. And then it's got a platform to
get together about 6 or 6 or 10 more steps, right.
And when I get to the platform, that's when I can see like, you
know, because it opens up and we've got high ceilings in the
fireplace and I just love it. I, I love to be able to look at
that, not that I do it everyday, but as, as a source of pride.
I'm, I'm very proud of what we built because we built the home
literally from the ground up. My wife and I and we've earned
it and it, and it's, it's something that means a lot to
us, right. And I'm walking down the other
day. I don't know where I was going,
what I was doing, why I thought about this and I never thought
about it in these terms. Now for all the young kids out
there, of course Santa comes and does his thing.
We know that every year. And, and I was saying just to
myself, didn't communicate. I don't even know if anybody was
home. I'm like, wow, you, you really
get about, if you really think about it, you really get about 5
or 6 Christmas mornings where Santa's front and center, if you
know what I mean. You know.
What I'm saying without, you know, without going, you know,
the kids, without going too far, you know, but let me just finish
that thought because when the child's born, yeah, Mommy
dresses him or her up and lick the Santa suit, the reindeer
head, you know, antlers, whatever.
But from the, from the age of birth 1, 2, they have no
recollection of Santa coming or Christmas morning three, you
know, maybe you start and we will watch it before too, but
you start watching like the Grinch and you got the Christmas
music. And I, I think that they sense
that things are changing a little bit.
And certainly at 4:00, they know that Santa's covered with gifts.
And then five, it's on, you know, 5678.
And then depending upon certain things with each family,
whatever that we, you know, that we'll just kind of gloss over
here. You only get, you only really
get about 5-6 years where it's full throttle with the kids and
Santa and it, it goes fast. It just, it's gone.
And I say that I, I'm not sure to be overly virtuous here, but
I, I, I guess I'm just in protective mode here where I'm
trying to protect the sanctity of, of things that matter to
American families. And the more, you know what, And
the more that we just, and I love football, but the more we
shove it down our throat on Christmas, on thanks.
Well, Thanksgiving's fine. But now Thanksgiving Eve, Black
Friday, it's just, it, it's, it's a problem.
It's a problem. Big time.
You know, I thought what I thought was funny there.
This is BT Unleashed. But when it comes to Santa, we
keep things under wraps. That's right, of course. 100%
man, what does Stephen AR have to say?
BT got the boys coming over for the jotties at noon.
Oh, little day drinking little jotties.
You're more than welcome. Allentown, PA.
Well, I mean, if if I was doing the St.
John's game, I would actually be sitting at the garden doing the
game. I Long story short, as I
mentioned, I'm going to Verizon today, which I cannot wait.
It's going to be a big room of executives, great people.
I've had a long work relationship with Verizon.
They've been very good to me. And I'm gonna go motivationally,
you know, speak to their, their upper upper level management,
etcetera. And I, I can't do the St.
John's game today. This was booked 2, two months in
advance or two months out. And it was supposed to be a day
or two earlier than today. And then based on their
schedule, which is fine. I, I totally get it.
I totally respect it. They communicated to us.
They said, hey, we've got a logistical issue.
We need to push it back. And you know, it's it's it's a
big commitment, one that I wouldn't bow out of.
So I had to let St. John's know I can't do the game.
Otherwise I would have. I've, I've done every Big East
game for basically 20 years. So I'll St.
John's wins today if they do. And the rematch were Providence,
you know, with, with Bryce Hot with, with Bryce in the whole
fight. Yeah, yeah.
They're playing the Friars at noon and if they win today, I'll
I'll be there tomorrow doing the game with Bank.
And if they win tomorrow, I'll be back on Saturday called the
championship like I did last year when they won the Big East
tournament. And then of course, Selection
Sunday, find out where we're going and I'll travel with the
team and if they go to the final four, travel for a month and
I'll do all those games. So and I'll bring you a lot of
content along the way. So enjoy the St.
John's watch party. It's going to be, I would think
it's going to be a pretty intense game.
So that's cool. But no, I, I am not doing the
game today. All right, let's slap this up
here. So I came across this and and
I've seen many different variations of it, right.
And you talk about the the three bullet points of what makes the
NFL the NFL, you know, scarcity, the violence and the gambling, 3
things a lot of other sports don't have.
Well, and I, I, I just asked it out loud and, you know, you guys
could obviously text this J Rod, I want you to get involved as
well. Just slap this up on the screen.
I saw this. Yes, ma'am.
Yeah, This will be fun to kick it around.
Kick around for a minute the the top 10 most loyal fan bases in
the NFL. Now I'd like to know what's the
determining factor here and how about my Jets?
Have you got at least love that hey, we're good at something we
don't bail. You guys suck.
You give us nothing, but we're here for you that's our mantra.
You stink, but we're here. You know that that we got to put
that on T-shirts. You got the Eagles, Jets, the
Browns, Buffalo, the Bengals, Pittsburgh, Detroit, Green Bay.
You got the Cowboys, you get the Raiders, you know, keep this up.
So I want to go through a bunch of things here so J Rod and you
can keep this up and speak over it.
If I said to you what what are two or three things that you
think would be behind this rating and these rankings?
Like what makes a great loyal fanbase?
Go ahead, hit me with something. All right, great, loyal fanbase.
I think obviously comes down to like the sports fervor of the
city itself. And you know, Philly's got that.
Obviously New York's got that. What I see a lot on this list,
this is my #2 is like your team has faced some real trials and
tribulations. Yes, yeah, that's the freaking
Browns, Bills, bang everyone, pretty much everyone.
I mean, Eagles obviously has a recent, they've been a little
better. Like all these teams have faced
like serious downtrodden periods within recent memory.
And so I guess something that calculates into it is like, have
your fans stayed through the storm?
Have they weathered the storm with you?
And then third. No, I think, I think you nailed
it. I don't think we need a whole
lot more than that. Now, listen, you could obviously
quantify this in terms of merchandise sold and, you know,
the amount of empty seats versus the amount of sellouts and
ticket sales. Like there's a way to, to get a
sense of, of, you know, from a numbers point of view to back
this up a little bit. I, I think that this is, if I
were to attack this largely perceptually, 1 pretty glaring
omission to me. I think the Patriots should be
on that list right there. I do now.
I don't know who I would take out because Eagle fans are
great. They're nuts.
They've been rewarded. They've always, always been
loyal. You know, they own WIP like my,
my former boss Spike at at at obviously at the fan who's now
with WIP. He's told us, me and Sal, I
remember back in the day that we could talk Eagles all day.
I and they do like even during the offseason, like they'll talk
Eagles. The put it this way, the
Phillies could play the Braves or the Mets in a, in a fairly
big series. And if there's something, even
if it's relatively benign, pertaining to the Eagles,
they'll leave the show with Eagles.
That doesn't happen in New York because of the the the placement
of baseball, you know, with the with the Yanks and the Mets.
You know, I mean, are The Jets that I I I guess, you know,
thank you. May I have another you keep
coming back for more. That's got to that's got to
constitute some loyalty for sure.
The Browns in large part the same identity and tortured past
to The Jets. I think Bills fans are great.
I think you know, Bengals might be a little high.
I've seen a lot of empty seats along the way.
It's a nice looking stadium too. I I would probably swap out, no
disrespect, Cincinnati or Ohio. I would probably either drop the
Bengals seriously or just whack them from the list and put the
Pats somewhere in there. The Steelers are a combination
of tradition and current passion.
The Lions, similar to the jet Lions, are more like the eagles
because they you know, they they've now, even though last
year was disappointing, they are they've turned the corner.
They've won a little bit. They've nice new, still not new,
but they've got a great stadium. Packer fans in front of Packer
fan should be higher, I would think, you know, And then the
last two, I've got no problem with Dallas and the Raiders
being on there. But of all these team, well, the
Steelers would fall into this as well.
That's also more of a national template.
Like the Eagles is largely regional like this.
I mean, I'm not saying there aren't any transplants around
the country, but jeez, it's like you've got these fervent jet
fans walking around California. I mean, it's it's the lunatics
in the northeast, in New Jersey and New York, right?
And the Jet should be on this list, the Browns or more
regional. The Bills, I think are
completely regional, maybe changed a little bit with Josh
Allen, who I love. And you know, you have a great
quarterback. That's awesome.
Where are the Chiefs? I mean, the more I think about
this, I I said the Pats, I would have to, I would get rid of the
Bengals and I would put the Pats and the Chiefs.
I've got to get rid of one more. Geez, God.
I mean, you know, who am I? I think the Bengals is the
easiest one. Who's the other team?
Because listen. I mean, all right, well, my
thing, maybe their fans aren't not the most loyal, but I just
think this team has had the most fair weather fans just do to
like back in the day. Also team logo like I think the
Dallas Cowboys like you meet dudes from Boston who are like
Cowboys fans just randomly. So that would be my other.
That would probably be my other choice, but not on the fact that
they're not loyal, just the fact that they have a lot of just
like. Random things, that's true.
I mean, of all that, you can take it down in a second.
Of all these teams, there's really only, let's see, Raiders,
Cowboys, Raiders, Cowboys, Packers.
That's certainly three. Steelers 4.
I think there's only really four teams.
I don't mean with national appeal, like when the Eagles are
on, you're going to get a good number.
When the Bills are on with Josh, you'll get a good number, but I
think there's four teams on the list that that that kind of cut
through, you know, any any state boundaries or any geographical
boundaries as well. All right, you can get that off.
This was an interesting one. I wanted to get this question up
there. How do we get that up?
All right, where's my guy Avery Summit BT What's going on?
If you got vast sports knowledge?
Thank you. I appreciate that.
But how much more difficult was it doing a local drive time show
in San Francisco discussing teams you weren't a fan of
versus a New York show discussing the teams that you
are a fan of? That's that's a really good
question. I'll, I'll take you behind the
curtain a little bit here. So I was at 10:50 ESPN Radio for
almost 1010 1/2 years, right. And when that ended, it was kind
of mutual. I was there like I, I thought
that I should be doing a more prom.
What else is new? A more prominent show.
And and listen, it was, it was a it was a great relationship.
They treated me well. You know, I was on outside the
lines a lot. I was on cold pizza.
Got to do the Knicks because of ESPN, love for ESPN, right?
But it was kind of running its course at that point.
A lot of different bosses, a lot of different PDS, a lot of
volatility, so whatever. So after 10 1/2 years, I was, I
was out and, you know, WFN didn't need me because WFN at
that point was still an absolute monster.
I mean, there's still a monster, but it was the old FAN and there
was no spots. I mean, Joe was there, Mike was
there. I mean, it's just different.
So I think that was that boomerang card in the morning.
I think it was which is which, which was a great monster of the
show. And I remember I was oddly
excited. Avery, I'm going to answer your
question in in a, in a little bit of a long winded way, but I
think you guys will enjoy it. I was oddly excited, even though
I just got engaged, had a pretty expensive apartment, just bought
an engagement ring, like made some big life purchases, really
for the first time in my life. And I also had ATV show in New
York, which was on SNY the wheelhouse, which I did for
about 7 or 8 years. Now that wasn't enough to pay
for everything was a nice, you know, supplement.
But the main income was 1050 was good money.
And I remember even with that fear of a change in terms of
economically for me, I was excited to see like, all right,
you know, you now you're, you're in your mid 30s or whatever I
was at that point and let's see if anybody else values you the
way you think. Maybe ESPN at that point should
have valued you. And I was, I was curious and I
was excited. Really wasn't nervous at all.
Maybe naive at that point. I just wasn't nervous and I
really wasn't nervous this time either.
So maybe I just don't get nervous.
I believe in myself, which I do anyway.
I remember getting 2 phone calls right, like right away.
One was from San Francisco. Jason Barrett, Barrett Media
shout out one of the great minds in the business.
He used to be a program director.
Brilliant mind and a great guy. He reached out right away.
They were launching because KNBR is the big station out West in
California. The Giants, the Niners, the
Warriors. Absolute flamethrower.
WFAN of the West, when you cross the Mississippi Monster, right?
And they were launching a, an FM station that was going to be the
home of the A's and the Raiders. And, you know, the ratings would
be different. And it was a lot of work.
But I'm like, that's kind of appealing.
FM stick when the FM stick was just getting popular.
The contract was a good, healthy offer.
It was for drivetime, which I had never done yet.
At that point, I hadn't done anything to drive yet.
It was with a former football player, Eric Davis.
That was one offer. And the other offer was at at
WIP in in Philadelphia and there was talk, I'm not going to
mention names, whatever that I could do afternoon drive there
now. And I didn't know who it was
going to be with. I, I never got that far.
I had conversations with them, but I never got quite that far.
Anyway, at that point, Mark Chernoff, who was running WFAN,
legend, legend, good guy legend, quirky, but a really good guy.
Still, still, still sends me a text on my birthday and Merry
Christmas. Really good man and a great he's
a legend of the business. I, I remember talking to him and
WIP owned by the same company. All right, so I remember him
saying, hey, this could be a really good move for because I
leaned out. I wanted to get some wisdom.
I want to get some advice. And he said, if you know, if you
go there and and do the afternoons, I could find out, I
could carve out some time on the weekends on WFAN and I always
want to be on the fan. As you guys know, it was very
appealing. I'm like, huh, afternoon drive,
you know, Philly top five market, good money, great
exposure, great vibrant city, awesome sports fans and I could
do shows on the weekend on WFN, my hometown station.
I think I got to do this. But what I ultimately, and I'm
going to answer this Avery what I ultimately, I don't think any
of you guys know that story. So I figured you might enjoy it.
Go fight and bore you. What I remember thinking at that
point, my life, because I was a little scarred by the way ESPN
ended, even though I've got love for him.
I remember saying to myself, if I go down to Philly and I'm
immersed in the day-to-day, the Eagles and the Sixers and the
Phillies and Villanova and the Flyers, right?
And I'm also doing work on the weekends on the Fan.
Am I going to be as deeply immersed in the Philadelphia
sports scene if in the middle of the week, I'm starting up the
wheels of churn for, you know, 3 or 4 hours, you know, maybe
Saturday and Sunday on the Fan talking about stuff that's maybe
more personal to me. And I really thought about that.
I'm like, I don't know if it's the best move for me at that
point in my life because I, I was just worried, you know,
because the pressure in Philly and I wasn't afraid of that.
But I thought maybe the distraction of trying to juggle
two things, especially again, my hometown station, it, it might
not be best for, for, for work. Like am I going to always
constantly be looking back at WFAN when I'm on in Philly?
So I turned it down, right and I pivoted to San Francisco
quickly. So to answer that, Avery, at the
end of the day, and and I really mean this, and I think it comes
out now because I I don't just talk about the Yanks or the
Mets. I talk about The Jets a lot.
When I got something on Gino that Pete Carroll said that I'm
going to get to in a minute, but I just love sports and I love
communicating. To me, there's nothing that I
would rather do. And I'm not talking about family
stuff that's come on. But there's nothing that gets
me, you know, as excited and as engaged and like, as fulfilled
as as communicating. I love the art of communication.
I love the challenges, you know, I love that rush, that feeling
when you drive home like a like a rant and he can't do a rant
every day. But when you really, it's like
maybe 3540 seconds of fury of fire and every syllable's on
point that it's like you just pulling words from space and
they're coming into your mind. There's not a single stumble and
everything is money. And then bang that last
punctuation like that to me for what I do for a living is
equivalent to barreling up a baseball and hit a three run
bomb at Yankee Stadium and hearing 45,000 people cheer for
me like that. That motivates me.
That's my that's my professional fuel.
So it really was easy in the sense that number one, it's a
beautiful city. And it was we we had just gotten
engaged. So it was a really good chance
for my wife and I to just say, all right, you know what, you're
from Texas, I'm from New York. Let's go together and start our
life in San Francisco. And I remember we went to our,
our 2nd wedding anniversary, we were in Sonoma, which was crazy.
Yeah, we biked over the the Golden Gate Bridge.
We went to obviously all the other vineyards.
We went to Warrior Games and Sad Courtside and, you know, went to
the old Candlestick before they blew it up.
And we were there when Levi opened as well.
Levi Stadium went to Candlestick.
We lived around the corner from where the Giants play, you know,
was that third and King I think is the, if I remember correctly,
right along the Embarcadero. It was a beautiful lifestyle and
like the Niners were coming up. They just hired horrible.
The Warriors would just start. Mark Jackson was there.
One of my childhood favorites of David Lee was on the team who I
knew really well. So I used to interview him a lot
when I was doing the Knicks stuff.
So it was kind of easy. And then obviously football's
got a national imprint. And so it really wasn't that
hard. Now I would carve out time on my
own to, you know, watch The Jets and watch Yankee playoff games.
But it wasn't that difficult. It it really was.
It's very fulfilling. It was a great professional
challenge and you know, it showed me, I don't know that I
needed this proof or this this, this evidence internally, but it
I think to myself unknowingly it it reinforced that it doesn't
really matter where I am or what teams I'm talking about.
I'm going to do a good job and I'm going to I'm going to bring
it. You know, it's definitely a
different market in terms of like, you know, I'm not saying
there weren't any nuts calling up like, you know, like on the
fan just screaming and yelling. You get a little bit of that,
but a little different. Little different.
It was it was really good. So hopefully, Avery, hopefully
that'll answer your question. Avery, it's quite the long way
to answer a question here. What else we got here?
Any other? I want to get to the Gino thing
in a moment. I want to maybe read something
else here. What do we got?
Let's see, OK, let's get DP-971. What up DP?
Do people even watch weeknight games?
If it's my team, I might watch the first half, but if it's on
too late, if you work early on the East Coast, even baseball
games that start after 8 or by the way, that's the other thing,
the living and working out out out West.
I mean, you got the NFL starting at 10 AM and you've got I've,
I've always been a big fan because growing up, there's no
football teams where I'm from in, in the, in New York City.
So I always gravitated to the Big 10.
You know, watch the Buckeyes, watch Wisconsin, watch Michigan
for football, not basketball. It's always Big East with
basketball. And a lot of those games are
noon tips. So this is young BT getting all
those bets in. And these games start at 9:00.
I mean, I'm just waking up 'cause it's probably out the
night before because there was no responsibility, no kids and,
you know, just lazily lay on the couch and, you know, have five
games going. And it's, it's wild, man.
Even like whether it was golf, U.S.
Open or the Open Championship, which would be even earlier out
there. No, it was pretty cool.
And, and the other thing too, that I really enjoyed about
living out there is that I got to get a little bit more
immersed in the college football culture because so think about
this. So we were there two years and
then I was hired, but back to come to New York to do the
national stuff for 10 years with Tiki, CBS Sports Radio, right?
And when we were there, they were, they were.
I don't even call. You can't even call it a
refurbishment. Like it was basically an
overhaul of Memorial Stadium where Cal football plays, right,
The Cal band, great tradition, Aaron Rodgers, etcetera.
And they played for one of the two years where the Giants play.
So they were playing at on a baseball field.
I saw USC roll in, I saw Utah roll in.
Like it was just so different, man.
And, and then I got to go to the new stadium and they actually
played Chip Kelly's Oregon team and we had pretty good seats.
But I just remember watching the like the wave of substitutions
and just how Oregon's offense operated from with a different
purview. It wasn't on TV.
It was amazing. And then when I went to Stanford
for the first time, J Rod, how sick is this?
I went to Stanford and I saw I saw Andrew Luck play
collegiately. Yeah, I did.
That's A and I got the tailgate there.
And matter of fact, that game, I think it was against you.
I think it was. Yeah.
So against UCLA, yo, I'm sure you can find this on YouTube.
Andrew Luck made a reception. It was like some sort of flip
and he ran a route. He made like a one handed
reception. That was where he dotted his one
foot sprawling out of bounds. I believe it was the, if you
watch it on TV to the right of the screen, maybe 1520 yards
downfield. And then he was drafted first
overall. So it was a very vibrant scene.
It was very enjoyable. Yeah.
I mean, it was it was pretty cool.
Andrew. I mean, Andrew Luck and and then
and Do you want to talk about a different tailgate scene?
So imagine tailgating in Berkeley, just walking around
Berkeley. Oh my.
Gosh, I mean, I'm sure it's. Beautiful.
It's beautiful. In many ways.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's just one big smoke
fest. It's just it's party Phil and I
matter of fact, my wife and I, I, I forget, I think it was
somebody that she worked with passed away from breast cancer.
If I recall, and this is a long time ago.
I didn't, I never, I never knew this, this young woman,
unfortunately, but they had a, a, a breast cancer awareness
walk through Cal's campus. Gorgeous.
Like you look at the topography, like, listen, I'm a New York
guy. I love it.
But there's a lot of things about New York that it grows.
And I don't mean when you get upstate, upstate's beautiful.
The city's absolutely revolting at this point.
It smells like this, it smells like weed.
There's garbage everywhere. People are flocking away.
They're leaving New York City's disgusting.
I love it and I could say that, but it's gross, right?
Subways are gross. But the topography of that part
of the country, I remember fishing.
I haven't talked a lot of fishing.
We'll get into that over time on the show here.
I remember fishing right. And, and drop in line and
staring at, at, at, at at Alcatraz, like literally 150
yards away from Alcatraz, catching sturgeon the size of my
desk. It, it was cold.
Yeah dude, I caught a leopard shark and I've never even heard
of that, nor have I have I ever seen one.
Do me a favor, can you pop up a quick Google image of of a
leopard shark? I remember finding one.
Pic of them before? They were big.
They were, I mean, not like a great white big or like, you
know, a bull shark or something, like something really dangerous.
But I, I, it just seemed I don't, it didn't seem very
threatening because the captain, I remember the captain saying I
wash your hands, but it wasn't that big a deal.
I remember even catching a lot of halibut, like just probably
2025 LB halibuts, just like stuff you would catch in Alaska.
It was absolutely awesome. Did you find a picture of a of a
lemon? Yeah.
I'm gonna pop it up, pop it up. Pop it up.
So let me just finish answering that question.
No, I mean, you don't really watch the way that you used to
or or the way that you'll watch your team.
What my biggest problem is, and I I juggle this with the Yankees
or the Mets, right? I want to watch the Yankees
first and foremost. I want to watch the Mets for my
job. Plus, I love baseball, you know,
but like when the Yanks are on Amazon and the Mets are on S&Y
or vice versa, and then you throw away, you get primed.
You got now you got Netflix opening day, which no disrespect
to Netflix, it's it's UN American that you've got opening
day that's not on available for some of the older generation.
I'll find it. I'll watch it if my mom is not
home. My dad ain't finding it.
My dad ain't watching it. I can promise you that.
So I always stand up for the older people who don't know how
to look at that thing. Yeah.
Now wasn't that big, to be fair. Jeez, it was Oh, God almighty.
I mean, that's a big one. But that is what I hold in.
And my buddy Dan, who who came in to spend the weekend, I think
Jen went back to Dallas. We had a boys weekend man.
And you want to talk about we, we went to a Cal football game
at AT&T Stadium against Utah. So we're tailgating, we're
hanging out there was great bars across the street.
We went fishing one day. We played golf.
Awesome, absolutely awesome. But I it's an it's an additional
problem because now the Thursday Night Football games on cable
and you know, you got to and I, I know it's not a big deal and I
know how to do it finally, because my son was doing it for
the first year. I can toggle back and forth
between prime and between yes, but it's a pain in the ass And
I, I really find myself not doing it unless I've got some
fantasy elements and my fantasy team usually stinks in football.
I don't, I don't bet the way that I used to.
So I'm like, all right, I mean, unless it's a massive game of
consequence, am I going to really go out of my way during
September and October to go to go and watch, you know, a game
on prime between the Titans and the Jaguars?
Or am I going to watch the Yankees or the Mets?
I don't watch baseball. All right, what are we doing?
BT fishing charters. Yeah.
Clr 8810. Let's get the BT and Sal
celebrity golf tournament off the off the ground.
First, then we'll hit the boat. We'll.
Hit the boat. Yeah.
I used to love doing this. And like, I wouldn't really.
I wouldn't. It wouldn't be a lot.
But when I would get up, because, again, no kids when
we're in San Francisco. So I'd get up at like 5:00 and I
found the captain like this Irish immigrant when I moved
there. I remember walking along the
Embarcadero because I'm from Sheeps at Bay and there's boats
everywhere. That's in Brooklyn by
Kingsborough, if you guys know the area, fishing charters, blue
fish, fluke, flounder, weak fish, stuff like that.
And you get a lot of sea Robins, whatever.
And it's overfished at this point.
But that's what I did growing up and I would love, I would love
to wake up And well, I had well, first I had to find a boat.
So I remember when I'm I'm walking in the war for like I
meet this, like you reminded me of the captain in Jaws.
Remember the, the bro remember the brogue that he spoke with,
If you remember that right, forgetting the actor's name.
I know he died recently more somewhat recently.
Rest in peace. Great actor attitude.
His, his, his brogue, his dialect added to it.
Anyway, I, I see this guy and he's got very small boat.
It fit 3-4 people, not like one of these monstrosity, you know,
massive fishing charters. Hey, how much to go fish?
And I just moved here blah, blah, blah.
You know, give me 100 cash, I'll take you out.
Done. So my parents were there for the
weekend and and then I eventually went out with him for
a couple, couple times and I would get up early and I
wouldn't put much in because I was obviously driving and I
wouldn't, I wouldn't drink it until I got there.
I would make a little Irish coffee, make a massive cup of
coffee. Just toss a little Baileys in
there and and you've got the the fog that's hitting the the Bay.
Go and drop a line, catch all the things I just mentioned.
Absolutely awesome. All right, I got to read this
because I do have to wrap up the show early today because I've
got to get out to Verizon. So Pete Carroll and we talked a
lot about Geno Smith on the show yesterday, right?
Well, Pete Carroll was dropping some some Intel on the new gets
quarterback and here's what Pete had to say.
He's a phenomenal quarterback. He really is.
He had a fantastic offseason and preseason with us and he comes
out in the first game. He's got a great game.
That was all fitting. It was exactly the right time
for us. Then we just faltered and
faltered. We didn't do well enough
coaching. We should have had him better
prepared for the things that happened and that would have
happened. He continued.
I take a lot of responsibility in that.
We didn't prepare him well enough for the offseason, even
though he looked good and we felt we had everything lined up.
It was a very, very disappointing, I guess, year for
us both. And then there's there's one
more that I want to read there. I think there's another quote
for there you go. We got killed.
We absolutely got killed, Carroll said.
Our offensive guys up front, their line was terrible, 32nd
out of 32 in the NFL online stunk last couple of years.
We got murdered. We needed to upgrade it out more
than we did. It didn't happen in the draft.
It didn't happen in the offseason.
We didn't go for it in the offseason.
We needed to have a we needed to have A to buy a line, a new
line, give the guys a chance to at least be more competitive.
The only reason you get sacked that much is because you try to
throw it too much. The whole thing didn't quite
work out, and that's why you saw the things change and all that
stuff. And quote, Pete Carroll, former
coach, Seattle, The Jets before that, the Patriots, obviously
coaching in college as well, all that stuff.
So I think that that doesn't mean that Pete's going to be
right. And I don't think that Gino's
phenomenal. Maybe he's laying on a little
thick there, but I think he's talking about him as a person,
the character that he brought to the building.
And if you missed the yesterday's show, I'm, I'm not
going to get back into it. Just go find that.
It's on the channel here. You know, I think it was about
as good a pick up as you could have.
I mean, yeah, All right. It doesn't seem like they'll get
Carson Wentz. It looks like those reports are
changing now. I know a few people had that,
but if it was Carson Wentz, would you feel good about that?
Like you might you, you could cause it's subjective, feel
slightly better than you do about Gino, but you wouldn't
feel good. I mean, Carson Wentz hasn't
played a lot of football in a while and he hasn't played a lot
of high level football even longer.
So it's not like they whiffed on Carson Wentz, who would have
been some game changing quarterback.
You know, All right, you want to Malik Willis, I was interested a
lot of money. Did you really want Tua, you
know, throwing 78 mile per hour fastballs into the wind at
MetLife. Did you really want that?
I don't want Tua, you know, and with the concussion history,
very injury prone, small, I'm not interested.
So to me just a button up the take from Gino yesterday.
But I did want to want to read that stuff from, from Pete
Carroll. You know, like, the more that
you, you look at this and you look at it objectively and you
strip away emotion and you just say, all right #1 Where are The
Jets at this point in their rebuild #2 Who is truly
available? And #3 What's the purpose of
bringing in somebody like Gino? Well #1 where are they?
They're, you know, step one, they've revamped the whole
defense. They're trying to change the
culture. So they're just starting out
with that. You know who else was available?
I gave you an OP the options. There was a dearth of options.
There weren't many. All right, They settled on Gino.
And then where do you go from here?
Well, where you go from here is hopefully just raise the floor
enough. We're now the culture slowly
starts to change. That's why you're bringing guys
like the Mario Davis. You're not bringing these guys
into win a Super Bowl. What you doing is you're
bringing in these kind of personalities and these kind of
diligent pros. And Demario Davis, by all the
counts and one of the absolute best humor I know, he's 37,
which is a weird number for a linebacker.
So one thing if you're a left tackle or guard or center, but I
know 37's old for a linebacker, he could still play a little
bit. He could still tackle.
And I'm not the same in coverage, obviously, but he's
going to bring a level of accountability and
professionalism to the meeting room, to the practice field.
He'll help espouse Aaron Glenn's, you know, message
player to player, which a lot of times is more effective than
coach to player because it's a peer, you know, and it's a it's
a different level of engagement. If you got a guy who's been in
the NFL for 15 years, you know, barking at you, saying, what do
you, Hey, we got to be here. What are you doing?
It's a little different than, you know, Aaron Glenn shining a
light on on on a board. Hey, you missed, you missed the
you missed the gap here. Where's the gap integrity,
whatever football verbage you want to use.
So that's where I stand on the Gino stuff.
I said most of it yesterday. The more I thought about it,
nothing changed. I like it.
I think he's a lot better than many of you think.
I think some of you, and that's fine.
You know, I'm not going to fight City Hall with this.
I think some of you interpreted what I said as me believing that
he's going to elevate The Jets to some crazy level.
No, he's not. But if they drafted Tie Simpson,
if they draft somebody, you know, kid from LSU, whomever it
might be, right? Penn State Aller, if you get one
of those kids in the second round, third round, maybe even
the fourth round and you get him in the quarterback room with
Gino, don't you think he's a little and maybe Tyrod Taylor is
the backup? Don't you think it's a little
bit better than having him in the room with Brady Cook and
then them kind of look at each other like, I don't know, what
do we do? So there's value there, All
right, Might not translate into the wind total matter of fact,
it probably won't that you guys are obviously desperately after.
But that's how I feel about that.
One more thing with time we got here, Jay, it's 11 yet.
Yeah. So the other thing real fast is
that. Yeah, this was interesting.
So I'm not going to get into the mechanics of the Knicks game.
I mean, they did give up 41 in the first quarter, which I
tweeted about. It was ridiculous.
But they did win the game, so no need to shade them too much.
They won what I find interesting, who played great
last night for the Knicks, right?
Jordan Clarkson. Jordan Clarkson came in, scored
27 points in 26 minutes, and he's basically been out of the
rotation for the last 7 or 8 weeks Now.
You might sit there and say, wow, that was a good move by
Mike Brown. You know, he had some faith in
Jordan Clarkson. You had to dust him off.
You threw him into a game where the Knicks had no energy and he
helped catapult them to a win that maybe they wouldn't have
gotten if Mike Brown didn't make that move and put Clarkson in
for the first time in a while terms of healthy minutes, right?
Well, the problem is it wasn't Mike Brown.
It wasn't his recommendation. It was assistant coach MO Cheeks
and Mike Brown even said that in the post game.
He's like credit to MO. Hey, Mike, you know I'm not I'm
not about I don't believe in taking the credit for somebody
else's success. I, I, I think the exact
opposite. But that's not a good look for
you because we're already kind of fed up with some of your
nonsense. You're too passive.
You have only one tech this year.
You lose too many games. You shouldn't you get punked by
Detroit. You hugging Draymond Green you
after you after you lose. You're hugging picker staff
after you get your ass kicked with Detroit.
Like you know, Mike Brown. That has not been very good.
And if Mike Brown doesn't get it together, Mike Brown's gone
after one year. Fact.
It's just going to happen and rightfully so because we all
know where the bar is supposed to be for the Knicks this year.
So they they win last night. The guy who was instrumental in
the win wasn't even like directly connected to something
that the head coach did. It's just it's it's wacky.
My God. All right, J Rod guys, I hate to
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Can't wait to hook up with them. Love them.
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You know, as the algorithm figures things out, that
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Texted with Stephen A and we left it where he said, hey, hit
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He said he wants to do it in in a in a line in alignment with
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roasted, man. Team Italy.
Oh, how about Pasquantino? 3 bombs.
First time that's ever happened in the WBC.
Good for Italy. Oh, what do we got here?
Got to help out America. All right, I'm bouncing.
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I want you to salute. Did J Rod disappear?
There he is, 1. You're right there.
Jay. What's going on?
Alright, something something happened to Jay.
It's all good. You're glitching.
Out right now. You're you're glitching out now
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