1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:03,960 Welcome back to sports Extra presented by your local Toyota 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,120 dealers. So you know him for two, maybe 3 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,200 decades across New York sports radio, first at ESPN New York 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,960 nationally on CBS Sports radio, most recently on WFAN. 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,240 Now his departure was well documented, so why keep talking 6 00:00:18,240 --> 00:00:22,120 about old news here we are going to talk New York sports and his 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,160 new sports media venture. Joining us here on Sports Extra, 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,800 Brandon Tierney, welcome BT you're. 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,600 The best I I am happy to be here. 10 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,600 Tina, how you thank you for having me by. 11 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,400 The way and great to see you in person. 12 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,520 All right, so we're not going to beat a, you know, a dead horse. 13 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,880 But in your last two weeks on the air at WFAN after they had 14 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,160 made the move and the announcements and all the 15 00:00:43,160 --> 00:00:45,920 things. What did you learn most about 16 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,400 either yourself or you within your career during that time and 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,840 your last interactions with, you know, the callers and and as you 18 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,480 and Sal Ikata closed out your show? 19 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,480 It's a good question. I think the first thing I 20 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,960 learned is that more people like me than I thought. 21 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,640 I mean, when you do what we do and you have the opinions on the 22 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,320 Yankees and the Mets and you have these crazy debates and we 23 00:01:06,320 --> 00:01:08,720 got fiery, there's no doubt sounds like it after it, you're 24 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,720 going to make some enemies. And and that's generally what 25 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,400 tends to resonate more in social media. 26 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,320 So you kind of feel that maybe more than some of the adulation 27 00:01:15,320 --> 00:01:19,520 that you might and, and as the announcement came out and as the 28 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,160 final show started to come in, it was a reversal. 29 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,560 We were, we were embraced and, and it and it really felt also, 30 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,840 but I certainly thanked New York for that. 31 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,120 I felt that. I know Sal felt that as well. 32 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,080 So that's what I learned in terms of that, in, in terms of 33 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,960 what maybe I learned about myself, that I'm as resilient as 34 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:40,360 I probably had hoped to be, because this was a bit of a 35 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,640 curveball. And you have two choices. 36 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,520 You know, you can keep the bat on your shoulder or you could 37 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,840 adjust to the break your ball and give it a whack and let 38 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,520 something happen. I'm going to miss it. 39 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,200 I've got love for the station. There's no doubt. 40 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,600 But I'm I'm excited. I'm really excited about what's 41 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,360 coming next, which is obviously let's. 42 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,120 Go BT Unleashed podcast. Yeah. 43 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,320 So tell us where it is, how we could watch it, is it officially 44 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,880 launched all the things? Oh yeah, it's officially 45 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:04,640 launched. We're live. 46 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,600 I'm doing a Daily Show, I'm doing a live show. 47 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,880 Obviously it gives me the chance Tina to react to stuff live. 48 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,320 And it's on YouTube. Oh, it's on YouTube at BT 49 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,160 Unleashed and it's, there's no barriers, no restraints. 50 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,720 I mean, I, I, I think some people who, who saw the Jet 51 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,440 podcast that I was doing unfiltered after all. 52 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:21,120 Those that's. The point? 53 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,680 Yeah, after all those miserable Jet games, I think they got a 54 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,880 chance to see Unfiltered where you don't have to necessarily 55 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,560 comply with the FCC. You'll see a little bit more of 56 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,040 a looser, maybe a little bit more of a nuttier, but still the 57 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,320 same passionate me every day. And we're just getting off the 58 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,640 ground. It's very exciting. 59 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,200 It's a little overwhelming, but good things are coming and and 60 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,360 and it's it's galvanizing in a way. 61 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:41,760 Really. You too. 62 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,840 Oh yeah, And when did you come up with a concept like, well, 63 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,080 kind of. Playing off the unkillable 64 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,680 speech that that I launched into the day after Aaron Rodgers 65 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,360 ruptures the kill these four place in against like The Jets 66 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,200 broke me that night they. Broke a lot of people. 67 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:55,720 I still still have PTSD from that. 68 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,560 Oh my God, Tina and I get on the air and I'm like, Sal, just give 69 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,360 me a couple of minutes to get. I don't know where I'm going. 70 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,120 I don't I don't even I have nothing written down. 71 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,960 I told Dove who was our engineer. 72 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,240 I said have the dump button ready. 73 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:06,800 I really don't know what's about to happen. 74 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,120 And I just launched into this two or three minutes irate where 75 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,240 basically the essence was if you didn't kill us last night, we 76 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,880 are unkillable. And if I couldn't take that and 77 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,160 then transferred from, you know, from being a sports fan into now 78 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,560 a new line of work and adjusting to something that that just 79 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,640 changed very radically a couple of weeks ago, then then maybe 80 00:03:25,640 --> 00:03:27,960 that was that was a farce, that speech, which I know it wasn't. 81 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,600 And it wasn't. And what time does it start your 82 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,040 life? Yeah, I'm going live at 10. 83 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,080 You know, there'll be some days where I have to make some 84 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,040 adjustments. It's it's only been a week or 85 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,200 so, the subscriptions. And yeah, I mean, I'm still 86 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,720 learning this. You, you, you want to talk about 87 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,240 something? I'm not kidding. 88 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,560 I got my 10 year old son who's helping me produce that. 89 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,560 We're going to stream yard. We're hitting buttons. 90 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,480 I'm like, dude, let me just make sure I can get on the air. 91 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,480 And then once we got on the air, it's, you know, it, it feels 92 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:53,240 natural. It's me. 93 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,760 It's me doing what I love. And and that certainly doesn't 94 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,280 change. The format changes, the backdrop 95 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:59,880 changes, but the mission doesn't change. 96 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:00,920 Love it. And that's what I was going to 97 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:01,640 say. What is your mission? 98 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,000 And there it is. Let's talk New York sports. 99 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,800 I love how it's live reactive. So I also love how you you show 100 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,440 your fandom. So let's I do so let's begin 101 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,240 there. And you just mentioned it, how 102 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,960 the unkillable, The Jets, I mean, and especially after 103 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,279 today's performance against the Patriots, what, what do they do 104 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,160 next? You know, is it time to do you 105 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,440 look at Aaron Glenn now? Is it the talent? 106 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,880 What do you see, especially after today? 107 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,720 It's amazing, Tina. I'm sitting there again today 108 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,240 watching the game like almost every other. 109 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,680 I'm literally watching the like this, but I can't be more 110 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,960 disengaged. My son even said he's like that. 111 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,360 I don't even want to watch. I'm like, I'm barely watching 112 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:37,160 and it's on. I get it. 113 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,240 All right, So here's the thing. I think it's very lazy. 114 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,160 Now I understand Jeff fans are are predisposed to just, you 115 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,120 know, unleash and and rant and the worst and you know, and my 116 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,600 boy Beningo, who I love, this is not a knock, but you know, the 117 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,120 Joe Beningo school of the thought everything's going to go 118 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,160 wrong and there's no hope. I don't subscribe to that. 119 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,440 I think that's nonsense. OK, because there's too many 120 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,040 examples of teams coming from the ashes to eventually get it 121 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,880 right. But but to get it right, you've 122 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,200 got to have the right people in place. 123 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,720 Now, I don't know if Eric lends the right coach for this team, 124 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,560 but I don't know. But I know that I can't even 125 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,880 remotely judge him based on the dearth of talent that they have. 126 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,200 They're starting an undrafted quarterback. 127 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,840 Their defense is atrocious. First of all, once they traded Q 128 00:05:18,840 --> 00:05:20,480 and Sauce, which I loved, I thought it was small. 129 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,040 For the future. They got a lot back and I do 130 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,240 believe in Mooji, which is a big part of the equation. 131 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:26,920 I think he's going to. He made that move, yeah. 132 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,480 And I think he's going to really do a lot with him. 133 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,440 I I think he's going to maximize him, but to expect Aaron Glenn 134 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,160 to win or to even compete with third stringers, it's 135 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,640 unrealistic. So what they have to do is 136 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,000 obviously find a quarterback and, and, and listen, unless 137 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,800 they were to make a bold trade for a coach who's currently 138 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,680 coaching somewhere, that's one thing. 139 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,240 Like if you can do that, then you bring him in. 140 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,280 There's no question. I don't think that they'll do 141 00:05:50,280 --> 00:05:51,360 that. I think they want to give him 142 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,880 another chance. So do I, but you have to get 143 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,160 players. Their talent base is wretched. 144 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,840 It's it's, it's not NFL level. Do you think they would actually 145 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:02,560 do business with the Giants with this draft situation, which is 146 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,600 still in the balance, but you think they would? 147 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:05,520 Well, I think they might have to. 148 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,600 If The Jets present the Giants the best deal, maybe say better 149 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,600 than the Browns or the Titans or whomever else Titans have a 150 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,800 quarterback. The Raiders, well, then you 151 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,200 shouldn't not do the trade because it's The Jets. 152 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,840 You do what's best for you. Your team and your team could 153 00:06:19,840 --> 00:06:21,800 build on that. Are you concerned about the 154 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,120 Yankees and their situation right now, this whole season? 155 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,600 I'm not concerned yet fully because they're still people on 156 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,840 the board that I know that they want and I think that they will 157 00:06:30,840 --> 00:06:33,000 get. Now if we wake up tomorrow when 158 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,840 Bellingers in Toronto or Bellingers in Queens, well, you 159 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:38,360 could have a different reaction on BT Unleashed like a problem. 160 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,160 You know. At 10:00 by the way, I I also 161 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,320 think Tina, that there's a couple of different ways to 162 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,600 build a team like in the minds of of of the conventional 163 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,080 thought for the Yankee fan. Get 9 sluggers, have 6 All Stars 164 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,600 and bludgeon teams to death like the championships team. 165 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,640 Even going back to Reggie like they used to do. 166 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,400 Well, I actually think the Yankees can build it differently 167 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,000 where maybe you trade for Peralta with the Brewers. 168 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,440 Maybe you sign a my and it doesn't look like they will, but 169 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,960 I think the Yankees have a chance when Cole comes back. 170 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,880 Witch littler Wittfried, who's. We keep forgetting Cole's. 171 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,720 Coming back and build the best staff in all the baseball by 172 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,480 far. Now without Bellinger, there's 173 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,040 that's a bigger issue if they're going to if they don't want to 174 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,400 give him that big money and I could kind of understand it to 175 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,360 an extent then they should. Although I don't think how will 176 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,320 I'm telling you what I would do if I, if I own the Yankees. 177 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,840 Actually, if I own the Yankees, I would get Bellinger Peralta 178 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,640 and I would get and I would get because. 179 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,640 You do have that money, they're just not spending it. 180 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,200 Yeah. But I do think that, do you have 181 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,040 to factor in Lombard here? Not for this year, but anything 182 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,880 that the Yankees do is they're they're building out one 2-3 183 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,160 years down the road. So if you get Bichette to play 184 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,040 shortstop this year, you can punt Volpe to second when he's 185 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,440 healthy. I would trade Jazz. 186 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:47,960 Listen, I've talked to people in the Yankees. 187 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,720 I can promise you there's no way Jazz is getting an extension. 188 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,000 He's going to get traded. I can promise you that. 189 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,960 So then when Lombard's ready, maybe next year or the next year 190 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,200 or the year after that, McMahon's contract is up, 191 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,840 Bichette goes to third base, you got Bichette goes to 3rd, you 192 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,480 got Lombard. It's short, you got Volpe 193 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,680 second, You have that. You can do it differently. 194 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,960 Right here. I mean, you know, I've, I've 195 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,040 been on, I got nothing personally against. 196 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,480 I like Brian Cashman. I've been on him for a while. 197 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,040 And let's face and it's your team and you're on him. 198 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,880 But but also what I'm saying it is my team, but it's also what 199 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:23,040 I'm saying is, is true not to be unfair to Cashman, 2009 for the 200 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,680 Yankees without a championship is just utterly unacceptable. 201 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,720 It's crazy that we're even still talking about that. 202 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,080 We're running out of time. I would love to talk. 203 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:35,080 To Nick with you. 22 minutes of content, but Saint John's real 204 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,600 quick. What's your scope on them for 205 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:38,760 this year? Of course you're still doing 206 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,480 play by play for them. Yeah, well, I'm doing it with 207 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,200 me. So it's it's a blast to have a 208 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,160 lot of fun doing that. My read on Saint John's is that 209 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,760 is a little worrisome. They don't have an identity yet. 210 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,720 There's my guy though. But how do you not trust this 211 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,800 guy that was? My question, of course, it's 212 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,000 Rick Pitino's hands. He's one of the three best 213 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,840 college coaches of all time, in my opinion. 214 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,200 He will get it much more right than it looks now. 215 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,000 Now, will he get it right to the point where Saint John's fans 216 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,760 thought, you know, Final Four may be cutting down? 217 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:11,440 That's, I don't know about that. There's a better version to 218 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,240 come, but there's no guarantee that it comes. 219 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,040 I've got faith, but I thought they'd look a little bit better 220 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:18,680 than they look so far to. Be honest with you, they 221 00:09:18,680 --> 00:09:21,040 struggled against those top 10A. Little bit Kentucky, you got to 222 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:21,680 beat. You got to. 223 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,880 Beat all till December. We've got a big January and 224 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:28,440 February ahead BT and it's at BT Unleashed on YouTube 10 AM 225 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,200 Congratulations. You're the best. 226 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,000 You're the absolute best. I love you and. 227 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,600 We we go back to I was on your show in San Francisco when I was 228 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,760 traveling with the Knicks. They were, yeah, always there to 229 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,680 play Oakland and all that Jazz. Thanks for having me. 230 00:09:38,680 --> 00:09:40,920 Thank you so much for joining us on SPORTS EXTRA. 231 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,360 And we will be right back after this.