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They don't have it. 
They just don't have it. 

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And and let's face it, guys, our
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been confirmed. 
Knicks will win nothing this 

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year. 
And I don't want to hear. 

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And I I'm sure you're already 
getting ready to text this like,

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oh, remember what happened last 
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It's a different matchup. 
It's a different energy. 

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It is different than last night 
was disgraceful what the Knicks 

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pulled. 
I mean, and by the way, I'm not 

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doing the whole show on the 
Knicks because they don't 

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deserve it. 
I got a little something for you

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on Jazz. 
I got a little something for you

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about a potential A.J. 
Brown trade and not just 

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pertaining to the locals, but 
it's all the football as well. 

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So hopefully everybody's having 
a Good Friday. 

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It is a no rules Friday, which I
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rules. 
If you listen to the show. 

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We do what we want, but it's 
really no rules today. 

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Honestly, just a gutless 
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Atrocious. 
Soft, unacceptable. 

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Does anybody know what the 
Knicks identity is? 

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You know, raise your hand if you
know. 

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And you know, back in the room a
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Joey, what is the Knicks 
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I don't know, Mr. Tierney. 
I'm not sure. 

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Mike, what is the what is the 
Knicks identity? 

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I don't know. 
I'm not really sure. 

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Mr. Tierney. 
How about little Susie back 

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there? 
You have a sense of what the 

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Knicks identity might be? 
I don't know, Mr. Tierney. 

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I don't know either. 
Well, I I here's what I do know.

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They don't have one. 
That's what I know. 

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All right. 
Last night was, I was so excited

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for this game. 
You know it. 

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I mean, I did basically the 
entire show on last night's game

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because I thought it was that 
important. 

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And there's just only a couple 
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that you got to get revved up 
for and at from a fan's 

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perspective and from a team's 
perspective, you got to send a 

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little message. 
All right, The Knicks had played

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the Pistons twice in Detroit. 
They lost by 38. 

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They lost by 31. 
Their head coach the day before,

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which I appreciate it. 
Mike Brown saying he he like he 

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embraced the gravity of the 
moment. 

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Like he said, hey, this this 
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some other games. 
We do need to show that we can 

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punch back a bit. 
The Knicks were well rested. 

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And don't tell me the Knicks 
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had the same amount of time off 
as well. 

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Now I, you know, I mean, they 
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So I understand that the Knicks 
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Pistons in the conference finals
or Round 2, whatever it might 

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be. 
I know the Knicks will have 

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games where they absolutely 
shoot the basketball better, but

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I there's just there's something
off with this team. 

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Outside of a couple of spurts 
this year, they really haven't 

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looked looked incredibly 
connected. 

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And I want to get to this right 
away, Jay Rod, get this up on 

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the screen. 
Listen to what Karl Anthony 

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Towns said after the game. 
Going to read this for you. 

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Look at that graphic. 
My God, look at how fancy that 

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is. 
My God, who came up with that? 

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Jay Rod production money. 
Listen, now this seems all 

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right, fairly benign, but it's 
not and I'm going to read it. 

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I'm going to tell you why this 
is a big problem. 

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All right, quote, our offense is
our offense and it's been the 

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whole year. 
We have our system and 

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regardless of who's in the game 
or not, we're going to run the 

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system that we have. 
It's Carl Anthony Towns that's 

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telling you that one of the 
store players has no respect for

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the head coach. 
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that's what that means. 
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like he'd be, he'd rather be 
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But in the middle of, you know, 
this, this, this energy and the 

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pressure and the expectations 
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I'm so tired of watching. 
He hits a foul shot. 

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He does that little stupid thing
with his hands like he should. 

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I, I'm done. 
I am. 

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I am beyond done with Karl 
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listen. 
This is what I've said for years

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now and I'm going to say it 
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apparent that it's not going to 
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He is slow, he is sloppy and he 
is soft and that will not 

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change. 
He will not come back a 

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different person. 
He will not come back with a 

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better motor. 
He will not come back more 

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assertive like this guy. 
And he's not the only one that's

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culpable here. 
I want to be fair. 

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I mean, there's a lot of things 
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team. 
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before we focus more on Towns, 
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Because there is more to when 
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game, that's a bigger, that's 
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And that's incredibly 
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moving forward. 
But Jalen Brunson, we all love 

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Jalen, right? 
To ISO Dom, he's to ISO 

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oriented. 
You don't win that way #1 #2 the

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wings, who everybody says when 
they're the knit, you know, 3 

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and D guys, you got OG, you got 
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Phenomenal defenders, phenomenal
defenders my ass. 

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There's a stat. 
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the foot injury, but there was a
stat after game, next generation

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stats, right where when OG was 
guarding Kate Cunningham, who by

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the way, is going to prevent the
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championship for the next 10 
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Like he's the next Jordan. 
I'm not saying he's going to be 

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as good as Jordan. 
He's the next thorn in the side 

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like Jordan was for the Knicks. 
He's only going to get better 

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and better and better. 
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him because he was by far the 
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And he's just better than Jaylen
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Call for what it is. 
You know, we can have a 

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conversation. 
Is Jaylen a superstar? 

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Is Jaylen just a star? 
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And I love him. 
I you know I like this is not to

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just airing air out grievances 
and become irresponsible. 

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I love what Jalen Brunson 
represents, but his limitations 

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are a problem and that that 6 
foot 5 beast who is getting 

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better and more confident game 
by game, year by year is going 

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to be in the next way to get to 
the NBA Finals forever. 

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So this team's not winning 
anything. 

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Next year's team's not winning 
anything. 

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I hate to be so negative, but 
they got problems everywhere you

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look. 
And the stat on OG right, 

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guarding Kate Cunningham last 
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almost 60% on shots attempted 
where he was exclusively guarded

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by OG Anobi, right? 
So, I mean, I, I don't really 

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know what to tell you. 
I mean, why in the world should 

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I get all worked up? 
And I am a little bit worked up,

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but like, I'm not going to, I'm 
going to do some other stuff 

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today. 
Like, because why? 

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Why should I be the one 
seemingly to care more about the

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Knicks than the Knicks care 
about themselves? 

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What, Like, why would I do that?
That's the height of idiocy to 

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sit in a in a studio, granted, 
with the reflection still 

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banging off the walls and the 
lights. 

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I know, I know. 
We'll get it fixed, right? 

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Why should I care more about the
Knicks plight than the Knicks 

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now? 
I don't want to hear while he 

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babysat him when he was your. 
Hey Mike Brown, once again you 

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got your freaking face kicked in
by the Detroit Pistons. 

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What does Mike Brown do after 
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Yeah, good job man. 
Laughing, hugging. 

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I understand that you guys have 
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love this, this is, this is the 
real human stuff of life. 

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But push that into the tunnel, 
just like you didn't do with 

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Draymond Green. 
I don't think there's a single 

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Nick fan alive that wants to see
Mike Brown yucking it up And and

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did you see how fast the MSG 
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I want to see his reaction and 
he goes to shake Pickerstaff's 

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hand. 
Who who's a great coach, but 

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well, really good. 
He got to win a little bit, 

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maybe greats a bit a bit much, 
but a really, really, really 

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good coach and they don't mess 
around. 

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I mean, hey, he's got that team 
locked in laser focused tough. 

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I mean, connected this Pistons 
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Pistons teams feels like more 
like the old 90s next team then 

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then this team does because they
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that and they didn't have two of
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They were like the whole front 
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And you got Karl Anthony Towns 
prancing around the perimeter, 

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flicking up breeze, hitting the 
foul shot, doing whatever that 

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stupid thing that he does with 
his wow, You hit a foul shot 

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that when you are 15 feet away 
from the basket and you're 

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basically 7 feet and your hand 
is the size of a tie. 

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It's like me going into the 
playroom on this floor in our 

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home and be shooting Nerf hoops 
with my son. 

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A big damn deal. 
You hit a free throw. 

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I just I can't take it anymore. 
And and I really thought that 

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that visual last night was a 
rough one, man. 

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Do you think that I don't care 
if Pat Riley's son was on the 

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other team? 
Pat Riley would have given him a

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stern handshake, a nod, hit him 
on the shoulder, keep it moving,

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go into the tunnel and 
absolutely once he gets into 

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locker room, eviscerate his team
for playing that soft and that 

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week from jump from jump, right.
So that's Pat Riley. 

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Same with Jeff Van Gundy and to 
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But this guy, you know, I you 
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I will, I will say when Sal said
Mike clown early on, I was like,

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wow. 
And I've been, yeah, I called 

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him. 
I'm like, dude, we're going 

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there early that like already. 
And and I thought, you know, and

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I, I know, I know how Sal is. 
So I, yeah, I know what he 

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meant. 
But I'm like, dude, that's 

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that's an early, early label. 
Come on, get the guy a week or 

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so to figure things out, see 
what he's got. 

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Sal may have been right, because
only a clown is that accepting 

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of an ass kicking of that 
magnitude again by the same 

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basketball team. 
So you lose by almost 40, you 

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lose by 31. 
You have a couple of days to 

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regenerate, get your act 
together. 

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The head coach the day before 
says, Yep, this game means 

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something. 
You're at home. 

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Everybody's talking about this. 
It's a national. 

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I watch the the local feed, as I
said, but it's a national game. 

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You got Blake Griffin and the 
Amazon crew talking about this 

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and that's what you come out and
do and I'm supposed to take you 

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seriously? 
I'm not taking can you 

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seriously. 
Knicks are going nowhere. 

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Season's over. 
It's done and it's a wrap. 

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They are soft, they are weak. 
They are mentally weak. 

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Their coach is mentally weak. 
Their second star player is soft

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as tissue paper. 
And it's a wrap for the Knicks. 

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Now. 
Now listen, the way that I am, 

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that doesn't mean that I'm not 
going to watch the next game and

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then follow the store. 
I do. 

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I I will, I, I will never 
abandoned the Knicks and part of

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my love for the Knicks and part 
of my expectation for this crew 

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and hope for this crew. 
Well, it's coming out now just 

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like it came in or came out 
yesterday in an in an, in an 

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anticipatory way, like, hey, 
this is a big game. 

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You got to show us something. 
Let's go. 

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What do you guys made out of 
here? 

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It's second-half of the season 
is a team that's in your way. 

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This is a team that you're six 
games behind in the Eastern 

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Conference. 
You got to do something, you 

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know, And by the way, even if 
the Knicks would have lost the 

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game and they came out and they 
were energetic and they were 

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protecting the rim and they were
playing with force and playing 

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with integrity, and they lost by
3456 even 89 points, right? 

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And they just shot as poorly as 
they shot. 

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I don't think that I would have 
this reaction. 

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Like, it's not just that they 
lost, it's how they lost again, 

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again. 
So, hey, if you are wired in a 

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way that you are prepared to 
tell me, oh, it's in. 

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It's the regular season. 
I'll get to these texts in a 

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SEC. 
Keep it up there, Jay. 

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It doesn't really mean that 
much. 

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Look what happened against 
Boston last year. 

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Detroit is different than 
Boston. 

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Boston's more finesse. 
All right? 

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You know, Tatum's a hell of a 
player. 

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Jaylen Brown help a player. 
They got guys that could shoot 

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their championship team. 
I've got great respect for the 

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Celtics. 
I always have. 

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Right? 
And Tatum might even make it 

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back this year. 
And even without them, they 

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still have a better record than 
the Knicks. 

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Like, that alone should tell you
something. 

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But the way the Celtics are 
built, it's different. 

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It's different like, like that 
what they always say, right? 

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One of the old adages in sports 
is that speed never takes a day 

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off. 
So if you're a baseball player, 

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I'm just going to use baseball 
for a moment and I'm looking 

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forward to getting to the Jazz 
stuff, he said. 

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Some wild Jazz is a trip, man. 
I'm going to dissect what he 

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said about going 5050. 
So if you're a baseball player 

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and you go, oh, for four and you
can't run and you're an average 

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to a slightly below average 
defender, right, well, you're 

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really going to have no impact 
on the game 0. 

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But if you go over 4 and you can
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defender, you could still bring 
something to the table when your

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skills are shut down by somebody
60 feet, 6 inches away who's 

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also very good at their job. 
Like the failure rate in 

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baseball obviously is much 
higher in basketball. 

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So it's not an apples to apples 
comparison. 

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But the point is I'm going to 
take speed in baseball and I'm 

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going to use toughness and, you 
know, like the the the proper 

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principles, like rooted in the 
the defensive principles and all

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those other things that those 
old Knicks used to have, right? 

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And even under Tom Thibodeau did
have as well. 

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When you have those and you 
don't shoot well, you still have

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a chance to win because there's 
other ways to impose your will 

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on the game. 
When the Knicks don't shoot 

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well, when the Knicks aren't 
lights out from three, the 

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Knicks are a pushover. 
They're a bunch of softies. 

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They're doing nothing. 
And it's high time that you know

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this. 
Like, if you don't see it by 

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now, I don't know what to tell 
you. 

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And hey, that's your opinion. 
I respect it. 

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I think it's pretty clear what 
mine is. 

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Teams going nowhere. 
Last night was the final fork 

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for me. 
I'm still going to be rooting. 

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I expect nothing at this point. 
I'm not even expecting the 

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Eastern Conference finals 
appearance. 

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That's how down I am on the 
Knicks. 

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And I said a long time ago, I 
said, man, I love the Knicks. 

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I root for the Knicks. 
I don't trust the Knicks. 

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I don't trust this crew. 
Have I been proven wrong? 

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If anything, it's been 
strengthened. 

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They're getting worse, if you 
could believe that. 

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Yeah. 
Brown 100% leaving stuff in his 

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pocket against the Pistons. 
What? 

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All right, so the first text is 
an excuse. 

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So you think that he's that 
good? 

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All right, let me get this 
straight, Omar. 

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I know you text a lot. 
Love you, man, but I think 

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you're wildly off base here. 
So you're telling me that Mike 

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Brown is purposely not showing 
all of his cards so that when he

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does play the Pistons, he'll 
have an advantage? 

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If you believe that, you're out 
of your mind because that's 

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giving Mike Brown way too much 
credit. 

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Now, again, I know he wasn't 
their first choice. 

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He wasn't my first choice. 
I did think it was time to move 

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on from Tom Thibodeau. 
I I did. 

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I thought Sal was nuts when he 
called him a clown. 

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Like, I've certainly believe 
he's better than that. 

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But to think that he's that next
level. 

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No, no, no, no. 
Stop, dude. 

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Now you're fooling yourself. 
And now you just making stuff up

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because that's not even remotely
applicable. 

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Yeah. 
He doesn't want to show too much

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that that's that's what it is. 
Come on. 

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Are you serious? 
It's not. 

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I'm not even talking about 
schematics. 

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I'm not even talking about 
substitution patterns. 

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I'm not talking about an 
allocation of rolls right now. 

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I'm talking about the dudes on 
the court getting punked again 

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and again accepting it, and then
their head coach laughing and 

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smiling one second after the 
buzzer sounded and the booze 

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rightfully rained down on the 
Knicks. 

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This is a team that's going to 
click in. 

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Get lost. 
I don't mean I don't. 

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I don't mean you all more, but 
get lost like with that 

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philosophy not happening. 
The East is not as easy as it 

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looked a couple of weeks ago. 
Tatum's back. 

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I don't know why. 
Yeah, I don't know if he's going

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to be back in a week. 
I don't know sure he's going to 

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be back. 
I know he's practicing with the 

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G League team. 
There's a thought he's 

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definitely not coming back in a 
week. 

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That's even close to be right. 
There's a thought he might make 

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it back to the playoffs there. 
Boston will not be easy. 

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I agree. 
Cavs look better with Harden. 

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I agree. 
Detroit and Indy get the Knicks 

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fits all right. 
And he's not a playoff team, but

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I get it. 
Not easy at all. 

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True. 
True. 

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But you know what, if the Knicks
were built differently or their 

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best players were a little bit 
better or wired differently, it 

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would be an easier Rd. 
Because you had 40 something 

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games where the Cavs didn't have
Harden, they've had 40 whatever,

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50 whatever than 50 games, 
something like that. 50 plus 

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games where the Celtics haven't 
had one of the six or seven best

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players in the NBA and Jayson 
Tatum, you know what I mean? 

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So even before last next I went 
through the stand. 

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I said yesterday that I think 
that there is a better chance 

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that the Knicks of the four seed
then they are the two seed. 

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Forget about the 1C. 
That's a wrap. 

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Now they're back seven. 
They were game, they were half a

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game behind the Celtics going 
into last night's game. 

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Obviously the Knicks were third,
Cavaliers were four and the Cavs

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were game behind the Knicks. 
And the Cavs are coming and the 

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Knicks are bleeding out a little
bit here and I don't see this. 

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Listen, I know Sohan's going to 
get more of a role and he'll 

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he'll bring some energy. 
And I'm not going to bail on 

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Alvarado. 
I love the kid. 

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I'm not talking about those 
ancillary pieces. 

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The primary problem with the 
Knicks is that their superstar, 

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who we all love, we cherish 
Jalen Brunson. 

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He is ISO ball dominant. 
His defensive prowess is a 0, so

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every team goes right at him, 
which makes everybody else 

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vulnerable because you're always
scurrying out of position or 

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scurrying to get in position and
ultimately caught out of 

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position trying to make up for 
what Brunson doesn't bring to 

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the table defensively. 
And then when that happens, you 

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get the seven foot slug, Karl 
Anthony Towns, the snail trying 

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to retreat and move and he 
can't. 

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And I say snail because last 
night, I'll tell you, my son 

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can't stand Karl Anthony Towns. 
And it's it's not personal, but 

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he's he just can't stand 
watching them. 

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And I know he hears daddy, you 
know, And then when he doesn't 

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rotate over, you know, weak 
side, whatever, when he doesn't 

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finish at the rim, when he 
double palms, when he you know, 

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when he skips up and down the 
court, like he just he just 

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doesn't. 
He doesn't project any like he's

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just not a legitimate star. 
She's not and I know the numbers

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are there and I go. 
I know back-to-back conference 

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finals appearance appearances. 
That's what everybody's hitting 

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me, hitting me up with last 
night. 

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Oh, why do you always beg on 
Cat? 

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You know he was in the finals 
last year. 

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Nick's want to beat the Pistons 
without him. 

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I agree with that. 
I'm giving credit. 

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Words do hit some big threes, no
doubt. 

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The problem is it's not. 
It's not consistent enough. 

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See, to be a superstar, you've 
got to be physically and 

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emotionally reliable, meaning 
your game can't fluctuate, where

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you take six shots one night and
then he gets 20 the next. 

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You got to demand the ball. 
Does Carl Anthony Towns look 

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like he post his big ass up and 
says give me the like old school

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once in a while? 
I know the days of Patrick and 

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Moses and Hakeem, you know, 
planting their ass into 

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somebody's, you know, stomach 
and give me the ball and the 

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point guard stocked in, you 
know, I know that that's over. 

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I get it. 
But there's still the way to be 

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demonstrative on the court and 
let your guys know. 

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Give me the fucking basketball. 
Give me the ball. 

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And he just doesn't do it and 
he's never going to do it. 

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So come on, guys, come on. 
I wish it was different. 

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And I could promise you there's 
going to be a point this year 

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where it's going to look 
different and the regeneration 

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will kick in. 
And those of you who and most of

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you are down and rightfully so, 
you know where I stand. 

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Jesus, that's not clear. 
I want to tell you, but I think 

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many more of you are with me 
than not. 

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I'd say 80% ish 75 agree with 
me. 

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And I don't even need that. 
I'm just kind of reacting to the

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to your reaction last night, so 
far today. 

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And I do think of that 70s 
percent that are with me right 

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now. 
What I think is going to happen 

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once they win three or four in a
row, you know, Cat hits a couple

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threes, Brunson drops in a 40 
spot, which he will. 

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Here come the Knicks, great 
until they play the Pistons. 

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And then the Pistons will walk 
on the court. 

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They will look them in the eye 
and they will know that they own

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the New York Knicks. 
They own them. 

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The Pistons know it. 
And I think even more 

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frightening, the Knicks know it 
and the Knicks aren't even 

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trying to do anything about it. 
They are accepting of that 

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ownership. 
So you tell me. 

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You tell me it's going to 
change. 

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Really. 
No, it's not. 

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Seen Dog Channel cat getting the
Lindor treatment from BTI Mean, 

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listen, you know, it's oh man, 
it's it's a little different in 

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the sense that I've never once 
questioned Lindor's effort. 

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You know, I questioned I maybe 
hit from one side of the plate. 

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Certainly I've questioned his 
defense a little, certainly last

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year, never before that. 
I've questioned his leadership, 

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which I stand by. 
So I I know what that's funny. 

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That's that's a good, a good 
text here, but it's not quite 

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the same. 
I'm not trying to equivocate the

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two. 
I never look at Francisco Lindor

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ever played baseball and say, 
man, you know, he, he, I need 

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more energy. 
Like, you know, no, I need a 

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better start in April. 
I'd like to be a little more 

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consistent so that that there's 
this up and down, you know, 

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April ice cold, May kind of 
cold. 

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June hit 330 player of the 
month. 

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Like, can we get a little 
consistency though? 

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Cats different cats motor is 
different. 

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And I have learned a long time 
ago, this applies to young kids 

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that I coach. 
This applies to dudes I played 

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with back in the day. 
You either have a motor or you 

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don't. 
Period. 

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You get let go from a radio 
station, right? 

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And you say, let's go, I'm ready
for the next challenge. 

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Or you sulk. 
I got screwed. 

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What do I do? 
Woe is me. 

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No, no, no. 
You're either a winner or you're

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not, all right. 
And Cat is not the ultimate 

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winner. 
And I don't care who hears this 

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and I don't care what you think.
There's too much evidence to the

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contrary. 
I would love to be wrong. 

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I would love love. 
I would sign. 

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I would if I had a little pin 
while I had the thumbtacks in 

447
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,840
here from when I was trying to 
fix the lighting old school, but

448
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,560
I had to put them away. 
If I had a tack in here and I 

449
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,080
had the ability to just prick my
finger and sign a contract in 

450
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:17,520
blood right now that said that 
basically that would say BT you 

451
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:22,280
were dead wrong. 
I would sign it happily. 

452
00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:25,080
I would sign it with great 
pleasure. 

453
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,400
I really would. 
It's not happening because even 

454
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,560
if he shows up in round one 
against whomever, is it going to

455
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,240
be there the way it needs to be 
in Round 2? 

456
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,320
Is it going to be there in the 
conference finals? 

457
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,720
Is it going to be there in the 
NBA? 

458
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,480
But the answer is no. 
And listen when you like. 

459
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,080
There's a randomness in baseball
and and I think that the Yankees

460
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,520
at times get unfairly criticized
and you know, I've got issues 

461
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,080
with the way Cashman builds the 
team and all that stuff, but 

462
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,240
there is truly a randomness to 
baseball. 

463
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,360
There's no randomness in the 
NBA. 

464
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,280
You get A7 game series, you get 
basically 2 weeks, 10 days to 

465
00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,520
prove that you're the better 
team. 

466
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,600
That's it. 
You know, and you can have one 

467
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,920
dud. 
Ewing had duds, even Jordan had 

468
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,120
a couple of bad games. 
Every great player, Magic, 

469
00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:10,680
Kareem Byrd, McHale, Isaiah, 
anybody from Matty, Carl Malone,

470
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,720
Stockton, Gary Bayton, and you 
can have a bad game. 

471
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,240
You can't have you could have a 
bad moment for sure. 

472
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,920
You can't have a bad week. 
You can't have multiple games in

473
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,160
succession where you're just not
doing your job because the 

474
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,840
Knicks are way too dependent. 
They're depending on them too 

475
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,680
much. 
And I'm not saying it's even all

476
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:34,160
Karl Anthony Towns's fault, but 
to me he is the biggest problem 

477
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,840
with the team. 
And I've said this for a while, 

478
00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:39,320
he's soft. 
He is. 

479
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,400
J Rod, what's going on, brother?
How you feeling today, Jay? 

480
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,360
Good. 
Good morning bro. 

481
00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:47,520
Good. 
Well, you got to lower yourself.

482
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,720
I don't like the appearance of 
you being the king and me being 

483
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,160
man. 
You got to get out the high 

484
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,960
chair, bro. 
You got to you got to get a 

485
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,800
higher seat. 
I got I got to do a little Phil 

486
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:55,840
Jackson here. 
J Rod. 

487
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:56,760
I got to get the Yeah, I'm 
trying to. 

488
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,800
Think of like what I can. 
It's all good, I'm just messing 

489
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:00,800
with you. 
I got to figure out my. 

490
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,680
I can. 
I can crush myself. 

491
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:03,320
That's the man. 
How? 

492
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,320
How tall are you, by the way? 
I'm 58. 

493
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,640
Yeah, I'm 62. 
He's 58. 

494
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,080
He's looking like Andre the 
Giant and I'm looking like one 

495
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,520
of the British Bulldogs. 
Come on. 

496
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,360
Oh my God. 
This morning, I mean. 

497
00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:17,680
Good morning. 
Absolute brutal. 

498
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,600
Yeah, disgraceful. 
And yeah, I mean, I was 

499
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,600
questioning, I don't know if 
someone, you know in the 

500
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,760
comments, if anyone's got an 
answer for this, but is, is Shay

501
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,560
still eligible for MVP or how 
close is he to ineligibility? 

502
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,960
Because if so, and I know Jokic 
is already out of the running 

503
00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:36,360
and I don't know. 
I don't. 

504
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,960
I've heard a case made for Luca 
just because of the numbers, but

505
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,360
I don't think a player playing 
for this Lakers team should win.

506
00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:44,120
And. 
I agree. 

507
00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:45,960
Whatsoever. 
I agree with you on that. 

508
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,160
Because it's just like, I don't 
know, it's a sorry team. 

509
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,080
So I would say Cade Cunningham, 
if Shay is, if Shay is out the 

510
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,520
race, Cade must be the front 
runner for MVP right now. 

511
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,040
I mean it's. 
He's Scott. 

512
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,200
He's phenomenal, man. 
He's so good. 

513
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,640
I don't disagree with that 
assertion, by the way. 

514
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,840
We were talking about this a 
little bit before the show. 

515
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,320
I don't know exactly if he's 
eligible. 

516
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,720
I would surmise that he's going 
to to get to the 65. 

517
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,800
I I think. 
Yeah, I think he will. 

518
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,680
But we we can crunch the numbers
in a minute. 

519
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,240
What? 
Here's all you need to know 

520
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,880
about Kate Cunningham, right? 
The day before he came out, he 

521
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:17,960
was talking about the Olympic 
team. 

522
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,640
I don't know if you caught this 
quote, right. 

523
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,920
He was talking about the Olympic
team and he said I'm the best 

524
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,240
American player. 
I mean, when you and and I love 

525
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,880
that he said that. 
The fact that he said that the 

526
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,960
day before he was playing Jalen 
Brunson, who's also a pretty 

527
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,920
damn good American player in 
Jalen Brunson's crib tells you 

528
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,960
that he looks at Jalen Brunson 
and the Knicks and by the way, 

529
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,440
by extension everybody else. 
But specific to last night as 

530
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:48,120
AJV unit, he's not even he's not
even remotely concerned with it.

531
00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:51,320
And then he goes out and he 
flushes 42 down and he he has 

532
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,040
his guard moment. 
I mean, he's going to be the 

533
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,760
impediment and the obstacle and 
the roadblock to the Knicks in 

534
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,200
their championship pursuit. 
No matter what the next 

535
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,080
iteration is of the Knicks, even
if it's Giannis over the summer,

536
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,960
whatever might be, Kate 
Cunningham is going to be in 

537
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,280
their way for a minute. 
It's just starting. 

538
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,960
Yeah. 
I mean, as long as my thing is, 

539
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,560
as long as the Pistons can kind 
of keep it consistent, keep 

540
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,440
building around this young core,
Yeah, you're absolutely. 

541
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,960
Right. 
Yeah, which is wrong man. 

542
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,560
Shout out. 
Omar SJ has only missed seven 

543
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,200
games, so he has 10 more he can 
miss. 

544
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,640
Okay, so based off that, Shay is
probably gonna take it home 

545
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:30,800
again. 
He's gonna remain in the 

546
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,040
conversation, but I'd say 
honestly, Kate can definitely 

547
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,640
make it interesting towards the 
towards the end of the season. 

548
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,840
OK, let me let you guys know 
what's coming up here. 

549
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,640
Obviously go a little bit more 
with the Knicks here. 

550
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,760
Knicks are a theme throughout 
the show. 

551
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,680
If you guys want to chime in 
with the with the with the text,

552
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,360
I'm going to get to the jazz 
stuff in a moment. 

553
00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:47,800
I've got something on a 
potential A.J. 

554
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,560
Brown trade as well. 
So we'll just we're not always 

555
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,200
going to do local stuff. 
We're going to obviously when 

556
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,440
there's national stories out 
there. 

557
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,560
And I saw something pretty 
interesting with A.J. 

558
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,000
Brown. 
I will get to that as well. 

559
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,880
Now it is a it is a no rules 
Friday, all right. 

560
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,800
And we obviously read a lot of 
texts throughout the show. 

561
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,720
There's one rule here when it 
comes to a no rules Friday at 

562
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,080
the end of the show and I'm 
going to have J Rod collect 

563
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,400
them, But it's got to be super 
chat and you can ask me anything

564
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,400
you want like there's no there 
literally a no rules, no rules 

565
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,200
Friday. 
SBT #SBT, all right, we'll do 

566
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,480
that the last 15 or so minutes 
of today's show every Friday, so

567
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,400
get them in collect them. 
J Rod's going to be on top of 

568
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:26,680
that. 
J Rod, before you start doing 

569
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,840
that, do me a favor, just throw 
that that quote board up once 

570
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,920
more for cat, because I want to 
just finish with that point and 

571
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,480
give you why this is a really, 
really big issue guys all right,

572
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,520
so our offense is our offense. 
It's been the whole year. 

573
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,560
We have our system and 
regardless of who's in the game 

574
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,280
or not, we're going to run the 
system that we have. 

575
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,840
Keep that up for a SEC. 
We're going to run the system 

576
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,280
that we have. 
Has this once this year. 

577
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,800
Sounded like a man who either 
knows what his role is or 

578
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,600
embraces his role or likes his 
role. 

579
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,680
Think about what he said in 
training camp. 

580
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,720
He flat out said literally, I 
don't know what my role in the 

581
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,240
offense is. 
Well, now what he's saying last 

582
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,240
night, he knows what his role 
is, he just doesn't agree with 

583
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,840
it. 
Bang, shots fired at the head 

584
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,640
coach, Choo Ching Choo Ching 
Choo Choo shots fired. 

585
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,400
So that is there is a real 
disconnected Karl Anthony Towns 

586
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,840
will not be on the Knicks next 
season. 

587
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,520
You could book it. 
And if he is, Mike Brown will 

588
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,200
not be coaching the Knicks next 
year because and I'm going to 

589
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,760
actually have cat side here for 
a minute. 

590
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,360
You can get it down there, Jake.
Good stuff, man. 

591
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,800
So love the American flag there 
too. 

592
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,200
That looks great. 
So the the great thing or the 

593
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,760
thing about great and nobody 
sitting here saying Mike Brown's

594
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,120
a great coach. 
Obviously he's not a horrible 

595
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,360
coach. 
And I think he's he's good, he's

596
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,360
good. 
And I found him interesting 

597
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:50,160
given the contrast and style, 
presentation, demeanor, the way,

598
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,440
you know, just the way he runs 
A-Team offensively. 

599
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,800
I thought it was a good time to 
get something opposite of Tom 

600
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:55,880
Thibodeau. 
I may be wrong. 

601
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,560
Knicks get bumped in the first 
round. 

602
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,720
Dead wrong. 
Knicks get bumped in round two. 

603
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,640
I'm wrong. 
All right, and I'll loan it, but

604
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,560
what word do want Jay? 
I don't want to put Jay around 

605
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,880
the spot. 
We haven't been together long 

606
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,720
enough for him to really know 
this. 

607
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,560
But next time I asked me better 
get this right and he will. 

608
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:19,160
So to me, what is the best, the 
best characteristic of a coach? 

609
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,280
I've said this for years, all 
right? 

610
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,760
And it's not like schematics or 
it's not dealing with the press 

611
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,760
if you're a New York coach, 
because that's, and these are 

612
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,600
all important things here, what 
the word is adaptability. 

613
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:38,040
Are you adaptable to your roster
or are you so fixated on the 

614
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,800
system that you run that you got
to shove it down everybody's 

615
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,120
throat? 
Now, I want to use an example 

616
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:48,400
here, and I'm not equivocating 
the two by any stretch, Pat 

617
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,760
Riley and and Brown. 
But think about Pat Riley with 

618
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,360
the Lakers back in the day, very
different NBA as we know. 

619
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,720
You know, you had, I think the 
most underrated, overlooked 

620
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,920
superstar in the history of the 
game in Kareem. 

621
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,480
And I really think Kareem's the 
second best player of all time. 

622
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,400
I think it's MJ and then I think
it's Kareem. 

623
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,480
So you have Kareem in the post, 
right? 

624
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,720
You got magic, obviously 69 
prototype. 

625
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,680
You got Byron Scott, James 
worthy flying down the wing. 

626
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,920
Michael Cooper defensive player 
could run like you've got that 

627
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,800
crew right and they're running a
Showtime now. 

628
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,040
Of course you get the you get 
the ball into the captain here 

629
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,600
and there. 
He was a little bit older at 

630
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,720
that point, but you need a late 
bucket skyhook, favorable 

631
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,360
matchup, dump it down to 33, go 
to work right, bang it in or get

632
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,480
fouled or then pass on the cut 
and get a layup right. 

633
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,840
But they really look to run and 
Pat Riley, that was one style. 

634
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,680
All right. 
He looked at his team when he 

635
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,880
came in for West Head. 
He's like, all right, we got 

636
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,880
this, We got that. 
He ran a system that was very 

637
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,040
counter to West Head, his 
predecessor. 

638
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,280
So he looked there. 
I said, we all right, I've got I

639
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,000
got guys that can run up and 
down, but we're moving and they 

640
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,760
look to score 130 points every 
night. 

641
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:03,080
Showtime was born, layup line 
dunks, alley oops, fun multi 

642
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,760
time champion. 
Then he so that was one style. 

643
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,400
Then he comes to the Knicks and 
he looks at the roster and it's 

644
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,080
a bunch of grinders and a couple
of plotters. 

645
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,360
Even though Patrick was still 
young where packets still run. 

646
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,600
But you know, OAK wasn't fast. 
And then eventually Mason, who 

647
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:18,960
was a great athlete, rest in 
peace. 

648
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,520
Mace got out there, strong, 
thick pass, can handle. 

649
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,240
And you had a little bit of 
everything. 

650
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,720
Like Derek Harper was 33, so not
as quick as he used to be. 

651
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,400
So he adapted to the roster, 
which was completely different 

652
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,680
than the 1 he had with the 
Lakers. 

653
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,880
And instead of trying to score 
$1.30 and win that way, Pat 

654
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:44,040
Riley tried to win 8981 837990 
on a good night, 92 O shoot out 

655
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,720
at the Garden, Knicks drop 9292 
to 87. 

656
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,520
And then he went to the Miami 
Heat and he had kind of a hybrid

657
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,240
as I describe it. 
Definitely didn't have Showtime.

658
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,520
Definitely had some guys who 
weren't afraid to bang for sure,

659
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,480
so etcetera. 
But he also had a kind of a 

660
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:07,120
hybrid, like a kind of a mix and
he incorporated style that was 

661
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,880
kind of a mix that when they 
played the Knicks, it was very 

662
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,000
reflective of because it was 
just a kind of a mirror image. 

663
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,080
Similar philosophies about 
toughness with Riley and Van 

664
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,920
Gundy. 
But that Heat team was able to 

665
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,920
score not against the Knicks, 
against other teams more easily 

666
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,920
than the Knicks were for the 
most part, even with the great 

667
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,280
Patrick Ewing adaptability, 
right? 

668
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,840
Lakers Showtime, Knicks half 
court beat the shit out of you, 

669
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,720
Heat little bit of everything. 
Well, what Coral Anthony Towns 

670
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,400
just said with that quote is 
that his coach has no 

671
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,680
adaptability and that's a 
massive problem. 

672
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,840
So that is that is very 
alarming. 

673
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,360
And there are, I believe there 
are. 

674
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,720
I don't I'm not going to say I 
won't get back into this Mets 

675
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,560
thing. 
All this locker room issues. 

676
00:33:55,560 --> 00:34:00,040
There's internal combustibility.
No, no, but I think that there's

677
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,960
a disconnect philosophically. 
Like, I think the Knicks players

678
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,720
like each other, You know, the 
Villanova crew gets along. 

679
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,000
Alvarado's going to fit in, 
Sohan's going to fit in. 

680
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,440
Those guys will accept their 
role. 

681
00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:12,800
Kolek is going to do whatever 
the coach tells him to do. 

682
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,320
He's going to bust his ass in 
practice. 

683
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:19,840
Like I don't think there's any 
problems, but it's not as good 

684
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,960
as it should be because when you
have your star, one of them 

685
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,480
basically now he didn't say he 
did. 

686
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,800
That's why I'm translating it 
for you. 

687
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,560
He didn't and he's he's too good
of a guy, even though I bang on 

688
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,920
him a lot. 
He is a good person and he is a 

689
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,080
good pro. 
He's not going to say something 

690
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,800
that is so out of bounds where 
it's wildly like it's the main 

691
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,360
story. 
Like he's not going to throw it 

692
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,480
up in flames. 
He's a smart dude. 

693
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,199
And I remember meeting Karl and 
Anthony Towns right after he 

694
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:51,400
left Kentucky, and Tiki and I 
had him on our national show. 

695
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,960
I think he may have been in for 
the draft, actually, when he 

696
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,280
went first over. 
That was a while ago, obviously.

697
00:34:56,679 --> 00:34:58,440
And we had him on the show and 
we met him. 

698
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,720
Great guy, great, terrific young
man. 

699
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:05,640
And he was telling us how he 
wanted to be a doctor after he, 

700
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,000
you know, was done with 
basketball. 

701
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,320
A surgeon. 
Like he's an incredibly 

702
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,680
intellectual person And, and I 
know that I get on him from a 

703
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,600
basketball point of view, but 
it's never personal. 

704
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,040
Understand that. 
Like his basketball stuff drives

705
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,280
me nuts. 
Never personal. 

706
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,120
I think he's a fantastic human 
being. 

707
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,720
So I I say that because he's not
going to be the guy who colors 

708
00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:26,920
outside the lines and says 
something so inflammatory that 

709
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,800
it's now a three day story And 
the Knicks have problems 

710
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,040
internally. 
But he is smart enough to 

711
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,920
manipulate his words and tell us
what he's feeling without taking

712
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,520
a sledgehammer to the situation.
And that's what he did. 

713
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,080
J Rod get that up once more, my 
man. 

714
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,960
That's what he did post game. 
It was measured. 

715
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,920
It was calculated, but it was 
clear, regardless of who's in 

716
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:53,000
the game or not, we're going to 
run the system that we have bang

717
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,760
shots fired problem towns brown 
problem next. 

718
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:03,680
All right, Crazy, crazy, 
disappointing lose again, didn't

719
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,600
even wouldn't even competitive 
chase. 

720
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,080
All right, so let me get a 
little baseball here for you. 

721
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,960
By the way, it is a as I said, a
what a no rules Friday. 

722
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,320
Get those hashtag SBTS going, 
whatever you want. 

723
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,640
You know, I mean, obviously 
there's like a slight limit here

724
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,680
as to what I would divulge, but 
it's it's generally pretty free 

725
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,240
free, pretty free flowing 
anyway, So get him in Jazz. 

726
00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:31,640
Chisholm Jazz is an interesting 
dude. 

727
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:36,160
I I mean, he is electric. 
He is incredibly gifted. 

728
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,880
I also don't think he's going to
be on the Yankees very long, and

729
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,880
that's based on conversations 
I've had. 

730
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,600
I'm not saying that that can't 
change whatever. 

731
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,160
I know the Judge has been 
working with him and, and he 

732
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,520
even said that he's learned a 
lot from Aaron, the quiet 

733
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:55,560
captain of the Yankees. 
Jazz said something yesterday 

734
00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:00,000
that I love and I hate. 
Let's get it up on the board 

735
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,880
there, J Rock. 
You get that Jazz cut up there. 

736
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,680
There we go. 
I mean, aside from the Marlins 

737
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,440
helmet, it's a pretty sick 
looking graphic. 

738
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:10,440
Well, I mean, look at this. 
I think we're like we're doing a

739
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,600
real show again. 
I mean, listen, every day a 

740
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,920
little more right? 
A little click by click, a 

741
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,440
little brick by brick. 
Yeah, boy. 

742
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,720
J Rod quote real life. 
Let's just be realistic. 

743
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,600
I got all the tools for talking 
about a 5050 season. 

744
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,560
I got the speed, I got the 
power, I've got the eye at the 

745
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,200
plate all right. 
I've got the defense, I've got 

746
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:37,120
everything to accumulate A10 war
season. 

747
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,760
All right, goes on to say you're
looking at the second one. 

748
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,840
And that was a direct response 
to, you know, him going after 

749
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,800
and being the second. 
I guess he didn't know that 

750
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:48,800
show. 
Hey was the only one. 

751
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,840
So when he was asked about it, I
I guess the reporter then said, 

752
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:55,280
Hey, you know, there's only one 
person to do with that show show

753
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,720
Hey, Otani a couple of years 
ago. 

754
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,800
And it's like, well, I'm going 
to be the second one. 

755
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,720
You're looking at the second 
one. 

756
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,840
I mean, we should only all be 
that confident. 

757
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:04,880
I mean, real life. 
Let's be realistic. 

758
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:09,040
I mean, this guy, he, he just 
oozes confidence and style and 

759
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,120
talent and skill. 
He is, he's a wildly talented 

760
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,120
person. 
The speed, the power of the eye,

761
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:15,840
all that stuff. 
We're good. 

762
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,480
Jay Rudd and keep it off. 
So all right, now I love it 

763
00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:21,160
because I love confident 
athletes. 

764
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,640
And I also love it because when 
was the last time you've heard a

765
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,040
Yankee, let alone a Major League
Baseball player, be like that, 

766
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,960
brazen like that, predictive. 
They're that bold. 

767
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,200
I love it. 
It's kind of like Reggie. 

768
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,800
It's kind of like Ricky. 
Problem is, he's not Reggie and 

769
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,280
he ate Ricky. 
Now, can he morph into something

770
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:45,240
in between, man? 
So I again, I do what I saw them

771
00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:48,160
like that a boy, lean into it, 
accept it. 

772
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:54,040
But there's such a gap from from
what he's done thus far to 

773
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,840
getting to 5050. 
I have to wonder if it changes 

774
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:02,440
his approach at the plate. 
And that's the one part that I 

775
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:08,120
don't like because if he's so 
wrapped up in the numbers and he

776
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,040
said something else and, you 
know, this is part of the Jazz 

777
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,320
experience, equal parts 
everything. 

778
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,520
But he said, you know, and I, I 
paraphrase, but it was a law. 

779
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:18,720
It was he was talking about the 
MVP. 

780
00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:21,240
This was a couple days before. 
I think it was a separate 

781
00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:23,160
conversation. 
He said, you know, he said, if I

782
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,080
don't win the MVP, like, you 
know, I'm not going to be 

783
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,360
complete or, you know, my career
won't mean as much. 

784
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,440
I mean, I would prefer to hear 
somebody say if I don't win the 

785
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,280
championship, it will be 
incomplete. 

786
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,440
I won't feel quite the same way.
And he inserted MVP for, you 

787
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,680
know, World Series champion, 
which gives you a little look 

788
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,880
into, you know, it does. 
It gives you a look into Jazz. 

789
00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:46,400
I mean, I think he's more about 
Jazz than he is the team. 

790
00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:48,200
And that's one of my issues with
Jazz. 

791
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,600
So he's a free agent after this 
year, unless the Yankees were to

792
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,120
strike a deal with him, but 
which they're not, he's not 

793
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,160
going to get an extension like a
that. 

794
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,920
I know, like if I'm off based on
the Yankees trading him at the 

795
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,960
deadline, which I think there's 
a good chance that they will if 

796
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,240
things aren't going right where 
there's a over, there's a better

797
00:40:05,240 --> 00:40:07,240
trade to make. 
They're not giving him an 

798
00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:08,600
extension. 
So eventually he's going to be 

799
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,200
an extra Yankee, right? 
So he's got a career high 31 

800
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,200
home runs. 
He's a lifetime 248 hitter. 

801
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,640
He's a lifetime 316 on base 
percentage guy, which which 

802
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,720
stinks, and he's got an OPS 
lifetime of 770. 

803
00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:25,120
Now, Yankee Stadium, you got 
Aaron Judge, you got a better 

804
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,240
lineup around you, maybe better 
coaching, whatever different 

805
00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:31,360
philosophy with the Yankees and 
you have with the Marlins. 

806
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,680
I know a lot of the veterans 
didn't treat them. 

807
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,240
I wonder why. 
I mean, when you're walking 

808
00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:38,160
around as a 21 year old kid, 
like, you know, your Hollywood, 

809
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,320
whomever, yeah, I could see some
eyebrows being raised in that 

810
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,760
locker room. 
You got to comport yourself with

811
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,200
an ounce of humility. 
You know, that's one thing when 

812
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,760
you hit the level and you want 
to be that guy like Reggie, OK. 

813
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,080
But before you hit the level, if
you're walking around and you're

814
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,040
projecting that, that aura and 
you haven't quite gotten there 

815
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,520
yet. 
I, I, I don't know. 

816
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,200
All right. 
So the, the thing about like, 

817
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,800
he's tempting history and he's 
tempting fate. 

818
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,520
And I do like having target 
goals and I do appreciate him 

819
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,120
being so specific. 
I, I really do understand 

820
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,720
though, how forget about 5050. 
There's only one person to do 

821
00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:15,800
that. 
How infrequent 4040 is. 

822
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,560
Now, if he doesn't get hurt 
again, or if he doesn't get hurt

823
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,720
last year, he probably does hit 
4040. 

824
00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:22,040
He probably does hit that 
benchmark. 

825
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,280
So you've had Canseco in 98. 
He had Barry Bonds in 96. 

826
00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:29,800
You had a rod back in 98. 
You had Alfonso Soriano for the 

827
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:34,240
nationals in O6. 
Those are the four forty 40s. 

828
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,600
And then of course, Acuna and 
Otani and Otani, the lone 5050. 

829
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,520
Now think about this guy. 
He's talking about what is this 

830
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,520
whatever I want. 
And then we yeah, I'm waiting 

831
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,760
for the Super chat there. 
I mean, again, if it's if it's 

832
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,400
if it's two nuts, I'm not going 
to hit it. 

833
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,240
But you know, roll the dice and 
see what you got when your 

834
00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:55,280
highest war is 4.2 and you're 
talking about A10 war. 

835
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,800
I mean that, I mean, that 
strikes me as incredibly 

836
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,640
ambitious. 
I mean, again, I, I don't mind 

837
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:06,000
it because like one thing that 
we can't do is, and a lot of us 

838
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,120
do it and, and I've done it and 
I just think it's really 

839
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,000
inconsistent. 
I think it's kind of unfair. 

840
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,680
Like what we can't do in one 
breath is talk about the, the 

841
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,360
homogenization of athletes, 
right? 

842
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,600
And, you know, there's the 
personality homogenization, but 

843
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,040
now there's also the like the 
the style, the hitting style, 

844
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,200
which is also been homogenized 
because there's just, you know, 

845
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,200
two or three basic core 
principles that are that are 

846
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,560
taught from the younger levels. 
And, you know, think about all 

847
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,400
the wacky batting stances. 
You had back Ricky with the 

848
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,200
crowds. 
Donnie would, you know, would do

849
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,800
this and he'd get really low. 
You had Darryl who was up high 

850
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,200
and very erected 66. 
And, you know, that bat was more

851
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,800
straight up in the air and the 
waggle and he had a little bit 

852
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,640
of a hitch. 
Dave Winfield absolutely had a 

853
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,000
massive hitch from the right 
side. 

854
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,560
Yeah, just crazy. 
Rod Carew was kind of, it was 

855
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,080
kind of like the bat was really 
limp and he would just kind of 

856
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,640
flick it. 
Oh, I got all the batting 

857
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,320
styles, boxy. 
So many different unique batting

858
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,360
styles. 
You really don't see that today 

859
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,480
because so many principles are 
rooted in. 

860
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,720
You ready? 
Hit the bell. 

861
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,760
Launch angle. 
Yay, yay, let's try to get the 

862
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,920
ball in the air. 
Hit a 420 foot home run. 

863
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,040
And if we don't hit a home run 
organization, and I'm not just 

864
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,440
talking about the Yanks, I'm 
talking about everybody. 

865
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:31,320
Organizationally, we are OK if 
you strike out because our 

866
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:36,360
nerds, our mathematical geniuses
who couldn't differentiate 

867
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,760
between A4 seamer or two seamer,
if you put a gun to their head, 

868
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,280
these are the geeks who are 
basically ruining baseball and 

869
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,200
you've got front offices 
listening to them. 

870
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,040
Now I listen. 
I love the numbers. 

871
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:49,240
I mean, I'm having fun with the 
geek. 

872
00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:52,360
I mean, they are geeks, but I 
mean, I'm having fun, so don't 

873
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,640
take it that seriously, but I 
would love a middle of the road 

874
00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:00,560
embrace of old school core 
philosophy and the infusion of 

875
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:01,920
the numbers. 
Like the numbers matter. 

876
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,240
If you're talking about 
revolutions or PMS on a baseball

877
00:44:05,240 --> 00:44:08,000
from a pitcher's point of view, 
and if you're chasing, you know,

878
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,320
whether it's 22 or 2300 spin 
rate and all that stuff, well, 

879
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:15,640
that stuff matters because the 
revolutions, you know, there, 

880
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,600
there's a correlation to drop 
and all those and, and those 

881
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,800
things are provable. 
I'm not talking about that 

882
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:25,000
stuff, right. 
But somebody like like a Jazz 

883
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,320
Chisholm. 
I really think like if Jazz was 

884
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:33,240
say, if Jazz was drafted in the 
70s or the 80s, maybe even in 

885
00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:35,960
the early 90s, I think it'd be 
such a different player now. 

886
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:41,280
I think he'd be a, he'd probably
be a 285 if not better 290 plus 

887
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,640
hitter with a much better on 
base percentage. 

888
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,960
He'd be like Vince Coleman, not 
quite Ricky, but like, you know,

889
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,480
Vince Coleman, one of those 
dudes stealing 607080 bases a 

890
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,880
year and you know, instead of 
hitting 31 home runs or 35 or 40

891
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,760
or 50 like this year, whatever 
he's going to try to do, he'd 

892
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:02,040
probably hit 17 to 20, which 
means there'd be more contact, 

893
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,680
which means the on base will be 
higher, which means there'd be 

894
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,000
more steals. 
So it's not even Jazz's hole, 

895
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,200
the holes in his game. 
It's it's because he's been 

896
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,920
allowed to play this way. 
And I would say in a lot of ways

897
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,720
he's been guided to play this 
way. 

898
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,960
And and I also don't begrudge 
players for chasing the numbers 

899
00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:23,600
because what's going to get you 
paid? 

900
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,240
Look at Luis Arayas. 
I mean, a guy hits, yeah, it's 

901
00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:30,840
tailed off a bit. 3233340 with 
his eyes shut. 

902
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,360
Nobody wants them. 
Why? 

903
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,440
Because he doesn't run, he 
doesn't have a position, doesn't

904
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:39,240
have any power OPS below 800, so
there's no value for him. 

905
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,240
If Arayas was coming up with 
Gwynn and Carew and Boggs, he'd 

906
00:45:43,240 --> 00:45:46,680
be a nine time All Star because 
he'd be hitting three 35340 

907
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,400
every year and he wouldn't be 
penalized contractually and 

908
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,520
perceptually for having nominal 
power and being a low OPS guy. 

909
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:55,760
Anyway, just a little Side 
Story. 

910
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:00,320
The point is what we can't do, 
what we really have to guard 

911
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:05,880
against is there, there's been, 
I don't know, I don't know when 

912
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,920
it started. 
I think that an easy point of, 

913
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,960
of inflection, and this is not 
necessarily mine, so don't get 

914
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,960
all worked up. 
I think a lot of the 

915
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:21,240
polarization of societal takes 
within sport started with Colin 

916
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:26,760
Kaepernick, right? 
And then there was a certainly a

917
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,360
demand for players speaking out.
And now there's a bit of a 

918
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,880
pushback and and whatever. 
But what's happened over time is

919
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,600
we have become so critical of 
players that everybody's afraid 

920
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,200
to open their mouth. 
They're afraid to say anything 

921
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,000
because you know, my boy Stephen
A and before him skip, they're 

922
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,000
going to pound them and they're 
going to crush him and he going 

923
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:51,960
to see the quote, you know, on, 
on TV and gazillion clicks and 

924
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,720
tweets and retweets and likes on
social media. 

925
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,160
And that player probably doesn't
want to deal with it. 

926
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:03,680
So I appreciate the originality 
and the personality of Jazz 

927
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,880
Chisholm. 
I'm not trying to dial him in. 

928
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,960
I'm not trying to reel him in. 
I'm not trying to homogenize 

929
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,760
him. 
I'm not trying to dumb him down.

930
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,520
I'm not. 
I love it. 

931
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,760
My fear is that's why when I 
presented this to you, part of 

932
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,280
me loves it. 
Part of me hates it when you say

933
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,920
you're going to go 5050 at what 
expense? 

934
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,240
Like at what expense? 
Because to to hit fifty home 

935
00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:33,280
runs and you know, that's 19 
more than the most he's ever 

936
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,800
hit. 
And before last year it was 24. 

937
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,080
I know different ballpark, I get
that. 

938
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,800
But now to get from 31 to 50, 
what are you doing to change 

939
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,520
your swing? 
You're already very rarely on 

940
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,840
base. 
You already strike out a ton. 

941
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,320
So what are you willing to 
sacrifice to make those words 

942
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,960
seem prophetic? 
That's what I worry about. 

943
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,240
It's also a contract year. 
So, you know, he's going to be 

944
00:47:56,240 --> 00:48:03,600
airing things out and I, you 
know, Jazz Chisholm can go, 

945
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,240
let's say, let's say, and he 
won't. 

946
00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:06,600
I don't think you and I'm 
rooting for it. 

947
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,760
I don't think he will. 4040 
wouldn't wouldn't stun me. 

948
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:17,000
You know, high 40 steals, low 50
steals, low 40 home runs. 

949
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,440
I think that that's somewhat 
plausible, but I still don't 

950
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,360
want Jazz Chisholm up in the 9th
inning down a run with a man on 

951
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,360
base and two out or one out 
against an elite closer in a 

952
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,040
playoff game. 
Do you? 

953
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,000
I don't want him up there. 
I want a different approach up 

954
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,360
there. 
I want a different philosophy up

955
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,880
there. 
So that's my issue with that. 

956
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,400
But I really do like, I do like,
I think Jazz's bounce, lack of a

957
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,280
better word is really good not 
only for the game, but it's good

958
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,600
for the Yankees. 
Yankees are very corporate and 

959
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,920
they always have a little less 
so now certainly with Jazz. 

960
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,200
But, you know, think about 
there, it's it's like the 

961
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,640
Yankees too often they've been a
conveyor belt of very bland 

962
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,760
personalities. 
Jeter was bland, you know, even 

963
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,600
the Champions. 
Mariano was bland. 

964
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,920
And it's OK when you're winning,
but when you're not winning, 

965
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,080
even Aaron Judge, and I don't 
mean to the way he looks and he 

966
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,160
he moves with a certain style 
and grace and Judges is the 

967
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,720
best, but he's not that outgoing
type. 

968
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,160
He's not going to hit a ball 460
feet and flip his back. 

969
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,160
And I'm fine with that. 
I like that actually. 

970
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,320
Just, you know, do what you do, 
flip the bat and stare and, you 

971
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,560
know, hit his chest and bounce 
around the unless somebody 

972
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,840
throws at him, maybe he'll stare
at you like you did up in 

973
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,040
Boston. 
But that he's a very, it's very 

974
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,520
simple performer in that regard.
And I think you need that edge, 

975
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,320
especially over the course of a 
a long baseball season where it 

976
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,840
gets a little boring and, you 
know, repeat, rinse every night,

977
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,400
162. 
So every team needs a guy like 

978
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,760
Jazz. 
But what he's chasing to me is a

979
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,040
little bit beyond the skill set.
And I think it might be 

980
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,520
counterproductive. 
Love Jazz, but got to pick the 

981
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,600
average up, become a situational
hitter, just get on base. 

982
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,240
Not going to happen, Dave. 
So think about what we just 

983
00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:02,840
talked about and what get the 
get the quote board back up 

984
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,080
there. 
I love it. 

985
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,800
Let's go quote board time. 
Y'all look at that look at that.

986
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:12,760
So you want this guy to turn 
into a situational hitter Yeah 

987
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,960
Levy made on second base. 
I just said I'm going for 5050. 

988
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,600
I'm going to contract here. 
I'm looking to get paid here. 

989
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,840
I'm playing for the Yankees and 
I've already got as much style 

990
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,480
as Willie Mays Hayes and you say
this and you think he's going to

991
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,480
just look for a pitch to hit A2 
hopper to 2nd to get the guy 

992
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,520
over to third base or to with 
the little fly ball, the center 

993
00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:34,480
with a man on 3rd less than two 
outs. 

994
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,720
Real life. 
Let's be realistic. 

995
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:39,120
I got all the tools for it. 
I got all the tools for it. 

996
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:40,800
I got the power. 
I got the speed. 

997
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,440
A little premature with that J 
Rod, come on, J Rod's having I 

998
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,920
will J Rod's having a little bit
of a bottle booms date today, 

999
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,040
you know, a little bit. 
There you go. 

1000
00:50:49,240 --> 00:50:52,440
The plate discipline, the eye at
the plate, the defense. 

1001
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,120
Well, I mean the plate 
discipline that's a bit 

1002
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,200
overstated because you wouldn't 
strike out 150 times and have a 

1003
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,480
316 on base percentage if you 
have better plate discipline, to

1004
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,080
be fair. 
But yes, I do have everything to

1005
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,160
accumulate that 10 war season. 
You're looking at the second one

1006
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:10,520
pertaining to the 5050. 
All right, I mean, bold words, 

1007
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:17,160
bold player, electric talents, 
not exactly what what I would do

1008
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:23,160
what I would say, but we have 
gotten away from those those 

1009
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,360
personalities. 
So I'm not trying to police the 

1010
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:26,520
sport of it. 
I like it. 

1011
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,800
I do. 
But it's got to be within the 

1012
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,320
context of, you know, operating 
within a from a team 

1013
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,120
perspective. 
You don't think about this. 

1014
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:35,640
Imagine if what's the 
difference? 

1015
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,480
You tell me. 
J Rodham, let me get you in here

1016
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,040
for a SEC. 
You're a big basketball fan. 

1017
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,320
What's the difference? 
Is there a difference? 

1018
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:47,640
Let me take I could go with Kobe
or I could go with Alvin 

1019
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:48,360
Iverson. 
Pick one. 

1020
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,160
Let's go with AII think it's I 
think it's better if Alvin 

1021
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,800
Iverson said back in the day, 
I'm going to average 50 this 

1022
00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:00,720
year, I'm going to average 50. 
Well, OK, I mean go for it. 

1023
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:03,840
And you would think that on some
level if he does average 50 it 

1024
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,800
would give. 
Oh hold on, your mic just got 

1025
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:22,760
muted. 
Well, what I would say to that 

1026
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,800
though, is listen, if Allen 
Iverson were to say he was going

1027
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:32,360
to drop 50 in a season, or at 
least per game for a season, I 

1028
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:33,680
don't think I'd really believe 
it. 

1029
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:43,400
Hold on BT fam, give us one 
second. 

1030
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,680
We shall be back momentarily. 
Hello. 

1031
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:33,580
Hello. 
Yeah, do test 1/2. 

1032
00:54:35,380 --> 00:54:38,540
Bang, bang, we're good. 
All right, we back. 

1033
00:54:38,740 --> 00:54:39,860
We're back. 
We're back. 

1034
00:54:39,860 --> 00:54:41,060
Absolute painted. 
I cannot. 

1035
00:54:41,220 --> 00:54:43,460
I cannot tell you how much that 
pisses me off, that pit. 

1036
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,880
No, it's crazy. 
I didn't even do anything. 

1037
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,920
No, I mean, I don't know what 
the I don't know what the 

1038
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:55,280
service is doing, just just 
jacking your mic from you mid AI

1039
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,400
Kobe discussion, but come on. 
They should know better. 

1040
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,320
All right, we're back up. 
I got you, AI. 

1041
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:03,800
Kobe, 50 point. 
I got it. 

1042
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:04,960
I got it. 
Thanks, Jay. 

1043
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,240
I mean, I guess that stuff's 
going to happen once in a while.

1044
00:55:07,240 --> 00:55:10,720
Whatever. 
All right, so AI says I'm going 

1045
00:55:10,720 --> 00:55:13,120
to go for 50 before the start of
the season. 

1046
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,640
We'll try to average 50. 
Don't you think more so than a 

1047
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,280
positive impact that that would 
be detrimental on the rest of 

1048
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,560
his teammates and really 
ultimately, yeah. 

1049
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,200
So when you're hunting 50 
points, how many shots you 

1050
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,160
taking, how many bad shots you 
taking? 

1051
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,280
What's your percentage? 
How many open looks are you 

1052
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,960
bypassing? 
And I get, I know it's not 

1053
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:36,080
apples to apples, but when Jazz 
says, hey, 5050, I don't know. 

1054
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,120
I'm not worried about stolen 
bases because that that's 

1055
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,800
different. 
But when you are chasing 50 and 

1056
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,520
you're not a natural 35 or 40 
like Pete Alonzo or obviously 

1057
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:48,080
Judge, more so like that kind of
guy now to me, you try to do 

1058
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:52,240
some something that's a little 
unnatural and, and, and not at 

1059
00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:54,800
least thus far, your career, 
seven or eight years in whatever

1060
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,520
it is, you know, a part of your 
natural skill set. 

1061
00:55:57,720 --> 00:56:01,160
So I think it would be more 
detrimental to Jazz's ultimate 

1062
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,200
numbers, which I think would be 
more detrimental to the Yankees 

1063
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,640
in totality in terms of 
situational stuff. 

1064
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,920
So I don't know, I, again, I 
like it. 

1065
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,640
I like the personality. 
I am a Jazz fan. 

1066
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,560
I know it doesn't always seem 
like I'm a big, a big Jazz 

1067
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,000
Chisholm fan, but I'm just 
telling you what what I've heard

1068
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,560
from the Yankees, they like 
them. 

1069
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,000
They don't really trust them. 
And I've talked to Alex about 

1070
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:24,120
this Alex Rodriguez, like he, 
he's got the same opinion. 

1071
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,320
He and I remember him saying 
like, can you really trust Jazz?

1072
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,160
Can you really trust him at a 
big moment? 

1073
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:32,400
And there were a couple of times
during the playoffs where I'm 

1074
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,120
watching the Yankees and he, he 
has a bonehead play there, 

1075
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,600
whether it's on the bases or in 
the field. 

1076
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,080
And I swear to hand to Bible, 
I'm going to do my right hand to

1077
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,440
Bible. 
You know, 5 seconds later, Alex 

1078
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:42,680
text me. 
He's like, you see what I mean? 

1079
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,440
And that, that's, that's part of
the problem with Jazz Chisholm. 

1080
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:50,400
So anyway, that's that. 
We got the Knicks stuff. 

1081
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:55,680
Let me get a little football 
here, All right, All right. 

1082
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,080
Hey, by the way, Jay, I do have 
a question here. 

1083
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,960
When that happens right, And the
stream gets interrupted, does 

1084
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,480
that, will that now be like 2 
live streams or does it all? 

1085
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,400
Is it all one continuous? 
No, it's still. 

1086
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,320
One. 
No, it's still one, but I can 

1087
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,880
also just cut that little 
section out too if we want to. 

1088
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:15,280
Yeah. 
Yeah, maybe cut out some of 

1089
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,120
those other mistakes that you 
made while you're at it, too. 

1090
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,080
Jay Rod, Jay, Rod, no rules 
Friday here on Unleashed. 

1091
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,440
Did you have something else that
said to me to jump on? 

1092
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:25,280
Your head? 
No, no, nothing. 

1093
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,480
OK, well, Jazz pulling the plug 
on the feed. 

1094
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,640
There you go. 
Hey, let me tell you something. 

1095
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,720
If Karl Anthony Towns didn't 
pull the plug on the feed now, I

1096
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:35,720
don't know why Jazz would be 
inspired to do that. 

1097
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,000
I mean, if anybody would want to
get this show off today in 

1098
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,120
particular, you'd have to think 
it was Cat who, you know, I 

1099
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,280
don't want to say I buried him. 
Like, I'm not trying to talk 

1100
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,160
tough. 
I'm just talking honestly, I'm 

1101
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:47,640
talking real. 
If you missed the Knicks stop at

1102
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,320
the beginning. 
You want to make sure you come 

1103
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,720
back, you check it out and and 
you get into that. 

1104
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:57,560
All right, so NFL and then we'll
get to those S BTS hashtag SBTS 

1105
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,840
get them up now. 
Those are the Super chats on a 

1106
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,160
Friday. 
That is a no rules Friday. 

1107
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,760
Hit me with whatever you want. 
Now the NFL season. 

1108
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,040
See, this is what I don't 
understand like this, so many 

1109
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,680
things about the NFL are are 
confusing. 

1110
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,440
It's less frustrating, you know,
like the language in the 

1111
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:19,560
contract guaranteed money, 
workout money like why the hell 

1112
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,840
am I going to give you a 500 or 
$1,000,000 workout? 

1113
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,360
I mean I know the reason, but 
why did it get to this point 

1114
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,360
where I got to give you half 
$1,000,000 just to show up and 

1115
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,880
lift weights twice a week at the
facility to freaking job? 

1116
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,800
You know, I don't, there's so 
many things about the NFL 

1117
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,000
contracts that are even for me, 
and I do this for a living, are 

1118
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,640
incredibly fabulous and 
confusing and to me, I think 

1119
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,000
unnecessary. 
But that's just a little side 

1120
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,000
spin there. 
But I think this is also 

1121
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,960
unnecessary. 
So the new March 11th is when 

1122
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,440
the new league year begins. 
And I mean, it couldn't be the 

1123
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,280
day after the Super Bowl is 
what, March 11th? 

1124
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,720
What an arbitrary day. 
Like, what the hell does that 

1125
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,480
signify? 
All right, turn the calendars, 

1126
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,120
you know, get the champagne, get
the poppers out there. 

1127
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:11,640
Happy New year, NFL March 11th. 
Anyway, that is the new year for

1128
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,400
the for the league there now no 
trades or anything of that 

1129
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,880
matter can happen until March 
11th. 

1130
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,760
But here's the other kicker, and
this is frustrating as well. 

1131
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,400
You can actually negotiate and 
as we know, because it happens 

1132
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,040
in free agency all the time, you
can negotiate and you can 

1133
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,240
execute and exercise moves. 
You could agree to trade some 

1134
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,280
principle and all that stuff. 
You just can't do it until March

1135
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,920
11th like I've always found it. 
Remember when Rex Ryan was at 

1136
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,160
Bart Scott's doorstep? 
We're in his driveway at like 12

1137
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:44,600
or 12 O one when the clock 
turned to the free agency when 

1138
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,520
he was officially court. 
And then, you know, like free 

1139
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,960
agency starts. 
Oh, so and so agrees to a A4 

1140
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,600
year deal, $37 million 
guaranteed. 

1141
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,760
Well, wow. 
I mean, that's a speed 

1142
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,000
negotiation. 
You did that in, in, in 3 

1143
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,560
minutes. 
That's pretty serious stuff. 

1144
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:00,960
You must have some great, so 
great legal team. 

1145
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,520
So, so many things about the NFL
are unnecessary. 

1146
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,880
But it's the NFL. 
And we love it, even with some 

1147
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,800
of the warts and we consume it. 
And I can't wait. 

1148
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,720
I cannot wait for this NFL 
offseason. 

1149
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,360
I just can't. 
I think the draft is incredibly 

1150
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:18,640
intriguing. 
I'm not just talking about The 

1151
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,920
Jets and the Giants. 
Like when we do this stuff, 

1152
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,800
we're talking everybody. 
So you do not have to be a local

1153
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,600
fan to watch this show. 
It's going to be A-Z, 

1154
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,800
all-encompassing, got a lot of 
draft show items and coverage, 

1155
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,520
things I can't divulge yet, 
contracts aren't signed, but 

1156
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,040
things that will be coming to 
Unleash that you are going to 

1157
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,920
absolutely flip over and it's, 
it's going to be great content, 

1158
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:41,040
right? 
I love the draft. 

1159
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:42,640
I've been to the draft a couple 
times. 

1160
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:47,040
I've covered the draft a lot. 
And you know, if you're new to 

1161
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,920
Unleash and I, I grant, I know 
many of you follow me from 

1162
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,800
previous stops, whatever. 
But if you're new to this, maybe

1163
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,520
you saw a short on Instagram or 
you just stumbled upon this on 

1164
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,080
YouTube. 
First of all, welcome to the 

1165
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:58,680
show. 
And even though I'm a New York 

1166
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:02,640
guy, you know, based and that's 
where I'm from in terms of the 

1167
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:05,000
NFL draft. 
I mean, I start looking at mock 

1168
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:09,600
drafts before, before the NFL 
season starts because I like to 

1169
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,680
be able to connect to thread in 
my mind because it's so fluid. 

1170
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,960
You know, I love to see like 
what quarterbacks or, or ranked 

1171
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,760
where, what the anticipated 
first round like I've already 

1172
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,440
looked at mocks for next year, 
just like on a very cursory 

1173
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,320
level because it changes so 
much. 

1174
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,680
But it gives me a bit of a 
database that I could build up 

1175
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,680
on and what I really like. 
Of course, the quarterbacks set 

1176
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,960
the market there. 
That's the sexy stuff. 

1177
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:35,560
But I also like to get a sense 
of is it a wide receiver draft? 

1178
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:39,920
Are there 345 defensive edge 
rushers that are that are going 

1179
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,200
to shape this to be a defensive 
draft that you know the way 

1180
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:43,760
it's? 
I love it. 

1181
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:48,000
I absolutely love it, right? 
So I say that because I want to 

1182
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,600
get to A.J. 
Brown here Now, again, if this 

1183
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,880
is if this and I don't know if 
they're going to deal him. 

1184
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,880
Howie Roseman said last month 
they're not Howie Roseman 

1185
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,960
smartly. 
Is it the business of accruing 

1186
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,160
really good players, not getting
rid of them? 

1187
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,440
That's one of the reason why 
Philly is really good. 

1188
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,640
And Howie Roseman's one of the 
best executives that I've ever 

1189
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,040
seen. 
He's phenomenal. 

1190
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:09,800
I mean, what he does is it's 
tremendous. 

1191
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,560
I mean, I wish The Jets had 
Howie Roseman, even though I do 

1192
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:13,680
like Mooji. 
Anyway. 

1193
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,000
So March 11, things are going to
start getting wacky. 

1194
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,760
Do I think that A.J. 
Brown is going to get traded? 

1195
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:28,440
I think more no than yes, but 
anytime you talk about this 

1196
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,880
stuff, as we know, it only takes
one interesting trade to get 

1197
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,640
somebody to really think, blink 
and eventually say, you know 

1198
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,520
what, all right, I wasn't 
necessarily compelled early to 

1199
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,560
move so and so, but this team 
really gave me something to 

1200
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,720
think like like with maybe The 
Jets, with the Colts there, I 

1201
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,600
don't know that they really 
wanted proactively to move on 

1202
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,480
from Sauce or even Q with 
Dallas. 

1203
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,200
But once the phone starts 
ringing and somebody hits you up

1204
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,800
with something that's just 
really just too much to pass, 

1205
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:59,120
pass on, you make trades that 
that's how it happens. 

1206
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,160
So I think that the enticement 
for A.J. 

1207
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,680
Brown could be there. 
Now teams that I think could be 

1208
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,920
in the market form. 
I think the Browns, I think the 

1209
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,200
Bills, I think the Ravens, I 
think the Pats. 

1210
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,120
And I did see something. 
I want to be fair. 

1211
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,680
I'm never in the business of 
taking something from somebody 

1212
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:17,360
and pretending it's mine, all 
right? 

1213
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,760
I do a lot of research, a lot. 
I watch a lot of stuff. 

1214
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,320
Half the stuff out there is 
idiocy at this point. 

1215
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,880
It's a complete waste of time. 
But there's also a lot of good 

1216
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,240
stuff out there. 
And I saw something. 

1217
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:31,600
I didn't see it on TV, but I saw
an article on ESPN.com and it 

1218
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:35,920
was basically a collection of 
several former GMs and personnel

1219
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:36,520
people. 
What? 

1220
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,880
And they put together a list of,
of, of teams they thought that 

1221
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:43,200
could go after AJ and more 
specifically what they thought 

1222
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,160
it would take to get A.J. 
Brown. 

1223
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:49,600
So and then I want to at least 
tie it in a moment to The Jets 

1224
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,440
and some other teams. 
Now, their list actually is 

1225
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,400
largely like my list. 
I've got a few other teams, but 

1226
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,680
they had the Browns, they had 
the Bills, they had the Pats, 

1227
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,160
they had the Ravens. 
Now for the and it's pretty 

1228
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,200
basic stuff. 
So they think the Browns 24th 

1229
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:09,040
overall pick, first round, 
straight up AJ boom, boom, first

1230
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:10,600
round pick. 
Browns could do that. 

1231
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,960
The Bills have the 26th overall 
pick. 

1232
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,680
They could do that. 
The Ravens, it was this was more

1233
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,720
interesting is where I think 
maybe The Jets could could, 

1234
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,880
could maybe enter the 
conversation. 

1235
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:25,280
So they had as a consensus the 
Ravens would give up their 2027 

1236
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:31,400
second round pick, a 2027 fourth
round pick and then wide wide 

1237
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,400
receiver Rashad Bateman. 
All right, So you add a player 

1238
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,400
who's good and then obviously 
some draft equity and then the 

1239
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:41,440
Pats were thrown in there as 
well. 2026 first rounder, 31st 

1240
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:45,920
pick overall, 2026 third rounder
and then a sixth rounder this 

1241
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:49,760
draft coming up as well. 
Now, obviously you're not going 

1242
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,360
to give up Garrett Wilson and 
there's other teams out there 

1243
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:57,800
that I, I now I, I would love. 
Now if the Giants were in the 

1244
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:01,680
AFC or the Eagles were, to me, 
that would be a pretty decent 

1245
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,600
fit because there's a lot of 
talk about the Giants may be 

1246
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,680
drafting a receiver. 
I don't love that myself. 

1247
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,320
I don't love that. 
I think the Giants should 

1248
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,280
absolutely go defense. 
I know the neighbors. 

1249
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:15,680
Is it going to be neighbors out 
of the chute? 

1250
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,280
I get that, but I'm not 
drafting. 

1251
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,760
Especially with the 5th. 
Now you want to trade down and 

1252
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:21,440
you want to get some more 
assets. 

1253
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,080
I'm a little bit more amenable 
to that. 

1254
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:25,840
I am not. 
And I know there's good 

1255
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,160
receivers. 
There's a few out there, very 

1256
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,600
good. 
Arizona State, Ohio State, I get

1257
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,760
it, Washington. 
I'm not taking a receiver at 

1258
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,920
5:00 because when I hear people 
talk about the Giants taking a 

1259
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:39,160
receiver at 5:00, I understand 
it's to help out Jackson Dork, 

1260
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,640
clearly. 
But some of the reasoning behind

1261
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:43,240
it just doesn't make sense to 
me. 

1262
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:47,480
I've heard people actually say, 
well, go out there, draft the 

1263
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,680
receiver at #5 because Malik 
Neighbors won't be ready or if 

1264
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,640
he is ready, won't be fully back
to being Malik neighbors. 

1265
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:57,000
Well, that's not why I'm 
drafting somebody 5 picks in 

1266
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,120
because the guy that you took a 
couple of years ago who was 

1267
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,960
amazing, I think Malik Neighbors
has a chance to be top three, 

1268
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:05,800
top four, certainly top five 
wide receiver in the NFL for 

1269
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,240
sure. 
You know, with better 

1270
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,120
quarterback play, better 
coaching, he's on his way to 

1271
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:12,360
being that if he heals properly,
which he should, but I'm not 

1272
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,560
doing that at #5 just because he
might be 80% in September. 

1273
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,400
What are we talking about? 
What? 

1274
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:22,160
I think that that's ridiculous. 
So I do think the Giants should 

1275
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,600
go defense. 
As I've said, you even want to 

1276
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,000
mess around, maybe go one more 
old lineman, which is better, 

1277
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:28,360
but it's still not an ultimate 
strength. 

1278
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,600
I'm open to that. 
They're not going edge. 

1279
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,480
I I love Caleb Downs, could go 
linebacker, couple of kids, 

1280
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:36,680
Reese, Ohio State, some others 
fit that bill. 

1281
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,640
Jets might take Reese at #2 I 
don't love that at #2 for The 

1282
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:43,680
Jets. 
The point is, is that if there 

1283
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:47,360
is a window now, I'm going to 
just bring this to The Jets for 

1284
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,480
a moment to entice Roseman to 
trade A.J. 

1285
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,840
Brown. 
Well, one of the reasons why I 

1286
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:57,640
love it. 
And let me be clear, this is not

1287
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,320
like, well, let's get Aaron 
Rodgers right, and then let's 

1288
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,000
get Devante Adams and let's try 
to microwave the Super Bowl 

1289
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:03,800
team. 
Nope. 

1290
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:07,240
I am remaining consistent with 
my philosophy here. 

1291
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:11,000
Build it from the ground up. 
Excuse me, Build it the right 

1292
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,320
way. 
Use all that draft equity that 

1293
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,080
you have to plug all the holes 
that you have to fill. 

1294
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:22,560
However, because you have so 
many draft picks and such draft 

1295
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:28,400
capital here, I I think that I 
really want to see The Jets go 

1296
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:34,960
defense at #2 and at #16. 
And if you could tap into, I'm 

1297
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:39,120
not saying one of those first 
round picks in 2027, but if you 

1298
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:42,960
can creatively construct 
something here where there's a 

1299
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:47,600
third that becomes a 2 along 
with A2 in what whatever year 

1300
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,920
you want and you bring it. 
A.J. 

1301
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,400
Brown now, well, now you don't 
have to draft the wide receiver 

1302
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,920
at 16 because they're obviously 
not going to do that at #2. 

1303
01:07:56,360 --> 01:08:00,880
And if The Jets were able to 
enter next season with say 

1304
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:04,760
either Reuben Baines or or even 
Reese, who I I don't know if I 

1305
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:08,800
love him, I don't know about 
that or Caleb Downs, who I do. 

1306
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:14,880
And The Jets go defense, defense
2 and 16 and then maybe, maybe a

1307
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,399
little more defense later in the
rounds. 

1308
01:08:16,399 --> 01:08:18,399
But now they bring in A.J. 
Brown. 

1309
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,279
Well, now you got Garrett 
Wilson, A.J. 

1310
01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:24,640
Brown, Mason Taylor, outstanding
offensive line. 

1311
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,240
As I said the other day, if you 
missed it, I gave you a lot of 

1312
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:31,240
lot of juice and a lot of stuff 
on why The Jets need to retain 

1313
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:32,680
Priests hole. 
It's out there. 

1314
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,960
Go find it. 
It's on this channel right now. 

1315
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,600
You got a pretty interesting off
who's playing quarterback? 

1316
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:39,720
Well, I mean, that's the big 
question. 

1317
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:44,439
But online, Garrett Wilson, A.J.
Brown, Mason Taylor, record as a

1318
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,880
blocking tight end, phenomenal 
run game, run scheme with Frank 

1319
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,720
Reich and obviously Breece Hall 
and you've got some running 

1320
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:52,920
backs coming back from injury. 
So you've got some some depth 

1321
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:54,200
there. 
Obviously with Alan. 

1322
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,319
I I think it's a team that is 
going to be pretty interesting, 

1323
01:08:58,319 --> 01:09:00,920
but not with the thought guys, 
I'm not trying to speed this up 

1324
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:02,520
and I'm not trying to take 
shortcuts. 

1325
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:06,680
And by the way, if you tell me 
Jets are nowhere near ready to 

1326
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,200
even think about Brigade and 
A.J. 

1327
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,200
Brown or well, if you thought he
had problems with, you know, 

1328
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:14,399
with his quarterback Jalen Hurts
in Philly, what the hell do you 

1329
01:09:14,399 --> 01:09:16,479
think is going to happen with 
The Jets quarterback situation? 

1330
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,359
I got you. 
I think that that's fair. 

1331
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,600
I really do. 
So I'm not going to push this 

1332
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:24,840
down anybody's throat, but I 
would like to at least see 

1333
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:28,600
Darren Mooji be Oh, and he he 
appears to, he strikes me as 

1334
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,279
somebody who's going to be open 
minded here about the 

1335
01:09:31,279 --> 01:09:34,479
possibility of doing this. 
Now, I think there's other teams

1336
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:37,080
we mentioned the Browns, but you
got like the Bills are at a 

1337
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:40,880
point now you got to just they 
got to microwave it. 

1338
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:44,040
They got to do everything that 
they could possibly do to give 

1339
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:46,920
Josh Allen a real chance to win 
a Super Bowl. 

1340
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:50,000
Now, Josh Allen's got to play a 
whole hell of a lot better in 

1341
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:51,800
his next playoff games than he 
did this year. 

1342
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:55,360
He was awful, awful. 
I'm a massive Josh Allen fan. 

1343
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:58,360
You might be he actually might 
be my favorite player in the 

1344
01:09:58,360 --> 01:09:59,840
NFL. 
He really might be. 

1345
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,200
That's how much I I I, I I just 
respect everything about him. 

1346
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,920
He's a gamer low maintenance, 
puts his pads down great, you 

1347
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:10,520
know, great stats, never 
complaints points to thumb like 

1348
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:14,200
that's what you want big, 
strong, fast, durable rocket for

1349
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:17,560
norm, who doesn't want that guy?
I really think he's my favorite 

1350
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,280
NFL player. 
I really ironically, he's in the

1351
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:24,400
same division as my team, but 
the bills need to the Ravens 

1352
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,360
need to start doing stuff to 
give Lamar a chance to win. 

1353
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,040
I think that's certainly the 
chiefs. 

1354
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,520
Now there's a thought about 
maybe reuniting Tyree kill. 

1355
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:36,280
This goes into the question Tim 
Thomas O58-O Yeah, Tim, but the 

1356
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:39,000
fugazi Every time I see Tim I'm 
I just can't help but thinking 

1357
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,800
Tim Thomas the Fugazi like the 
whole Fugazi thing with the 

1358
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:43,600
Knicks. 
Anyway, what are your thoughts 

1359
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,400
on The Jets? 
Look at the Tyree kept pass not 

1360
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:46,400
interested. 
No thank you. 

1361
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:51,520
Nope, I mean, I would amend that
slightly and say he wants to 

1362
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:55,760
come in on, you know, a one year
prove it. 

1363
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,760
The but why would he when he's 
not going to put up explosive 

1364
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,240
stat? 
The only way you do that is if 

1365
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:02,760
you haven't won a championship 
yet. 

1366
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:07,480
He has or if you you have 
something to prove and it's a 

1367
01:11:07,480 --> 01:11:10,240
perfect situation where you know
those stats are going to pop. 

1368
01:11:10,480 --> 01:11:13,440
You come to The Jets. 
There's a good chance Tyree Kill

1369
01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:17,800
finishes with 59 catches, 726 
yards and and three touchdowns. 

1370
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,200
And if he signs that one year, 
make a deal. 

1371
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,120
He did nothing to bolster his 
earning power down the road 

1372
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,560
where he's got maybe one more 
payday. 

1373
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:27,240
I think he's going back to 
Kansas City. 

1374
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,520
And there's other there's other 
contender contenders for sure. 

1375
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:32,720
I mean, you want to tell me? 
I mean, really anybody. 

1376
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:36,240
I mean, if you think about any 
good team that has a stable 

1377
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:40,120
infrastructure, yeah, you look 
at somebody like Tyree Kill, not

1378
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,560
interested in him for The Jets. 
See, to me, A.J. 

1379
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:45,640
Brown, like Tyree kills A1 trick
pony. 

1380
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,160
Let's run a go route. 
Just take the top off and beat 

1381
01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:49,360
everybody. 
A.J. 

1382
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,480
Brown does a whole lot more 
better blocker better and, you 

1383
01:11:52,480 --> 01:11:55,680
know, tight little quarters, 
grind it out, move the sticks, 

1384
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:58,600
you know, just different than 
Tyree kill. 

1385
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,960
That's why I'd I'd be much more,
you know, open to that for The 

1386
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,160
Jets. 
But I mean, what contender 

1387
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,240
couldn't use A.J. 
Brown or or Tyree kill? 

1388
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,160
You'd have to think the list is 
through the roof. 

1389
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:13,560
And while I don't think as of 
this moment, I really don't 

1390
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:19,000
think that Howie Roseman and the
and the Eagles are predisposed 

1391
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,000
to trade him. 
Like I believe when he said last

1392
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,680
January, Nope, we're not looking
to get rid of him. 

1393
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:23,760
He's an Eagle. 
We want him. 

1394
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:24,760
Bah, Bah, Bah. 
I believe that. 

1395
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:27,440
But again, something tempting 
comes across your desk there, 

1396
01:12:27,440 --> 01:12:31,120
something enticing. 
And it's just, I mean, reckless 

1397
01:12:31,440 --> 01:12:33,800
because I don't want The Jets or
anybody else to do that either. 

1398
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:38,080
You, you have to consider it. 
And so I wouldn't rule it out. 

1399
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:40,520
I really wouldn't, but it's 
almost draft time here. 

1400
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,640
Jay, Rod, you do you like the 
NFL draft? 

1401
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:44,800
Let's talk to the Unleashed fan 
here. 

1402
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:46,960
You know you're a big NBA guy. 
Always fun. 

1403
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,080
Always fun. 
Let me see. 

1404
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,920
I remember a couple years ago 
what they bust out the boats. 

1405
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,200
They brought the boats out for 
the NFL draft. 

1406
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,520
The dude hopped off the boat, 
went on to the stage. 

1407
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:57,320
Yeah. 
Always fun. 

1408
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,480
Interesting. 
See who's gonna see who's gonna,

1409
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:05,320
you know, make the teams change 
it around for them. 

1410
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:09,120
See for The Jets, who could 
potentially be, what are they? 

1411
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,280
They're doing a quarterback. 
I mean, they must, right? 

1412
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:13,640
I don't think they're doing a 
quarterback in the first round. 

1413
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:15,920
They're definitely not doing it 
too because you know, Mendoza is

1414
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,920
going to be gone. 
Maybe a chance they mess around 

1415
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:22,040
with Simpson somewhere. 
No, I, I, I want to go defense, 

1416
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,120
defense or defense, wide 
receiver. 

1417
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:25,280
Jets aren't taking the 
quarterback. 

1418
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,480
Or like right now I'm putting 
money on The Jets, not taking 

1419
01:13:27,480 --> 01:13:30,400
the quarterback in round one. 
You know, maybe later you mess 

1420
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,520
around, you make a trade, you're
one of those projects. 

1421
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:36,240
Sure, the more projects you try,
I mean, maybe eventually hit on 

1422
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,200
something. 
But no, I I don't think The Jets

1423
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,440
a matter of fact, I'm almost 
positive they're not going. 

1424
01:13:41,440 --> 01:13:44,480
Defense. 
That's what I would like them to

1425
01:13:44,480 --> 01:13:44,840
do. 
Yeah. 

1426
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:46,880
I mean, their defense was 
deplorable, dude. 

1427
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,920
Now, now listen, J Rod, if there
was quarterbacks, if there was, 

1428
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,240
if there was another quarterback
that I really thought. 

1429
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:57,280
Because yeah, Mendoza's going 
first. 

1430
01:13:57,320 --> 01:13:59,760
Easy. 
Yeah, and you know, obviously 

1431
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,440
nobody else out there satisfies 
for me or for anybody. 

1432
01:14:02,440 --> 01:14:04,120
The consensus is that there's no
way. 

1433
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:06,400
I don't care if Ty Simpson and 
he's not going to. 

1434
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:11,000
I don't care if Ty Simpson shows
up and runs A45140 and benches 

1435
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,440
whatever and jumps to the moon 
and that little thing, the 

1436
01:14:13,480 --> 01:14:17,000
afflict for the vertical and has
the most amazing interviews and,

1437
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,720
you know, hits the grease board 
and kills it like Peyton Manning

1438
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:23,440
or some ninja, some Jedi like 
Tom Brady and or Bill Walsh. 

1439
01:14:23,440 --> 01:14:25,680
So I I'm not taking him 6th no 
matter what. 

1440
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:30,560
I'm not taking them now. 
I do think and and this is less 

1441
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:34,640
about The Jets and more about a 
just a commentary on on Ty on Ty

1442
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,680
Simpson. 
I actually like him. 

1443
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,560
I know it didn't sound it. 
I like him a lot more than most 

1444
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:42,080
of the other pundits. 
There's a lot of people and I 

1445
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:44,280
watched him a lot of Alabama 
this year, not just in the 

1446
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,880
playoffs there, right. 
And the thing that you have to 

1447
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,720
know, and this matters not. 
I wish you had more experience. 

1448
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:52,560
Let me at least be upfront with 
that because there is a stat, 

1449
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:55,920
whether it's Sanchez, you know, 
Zach Wilson, there's a lot of 

1450
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,360
quarterbacks, like there's a 
connection when you play XML, 

1451
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:01,600
like you get 303540 collegiate 
starts. 

1452
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:05,000
It's just easier to weed out the
real ones and the fakes, right? 

1453
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,360
Because it's still there's an 
element of guessing and 

1454
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,200
projection with those guys who 
haven't played a lot. 

1455
01:15:09,440 --> 01:15:11,160
So Ty Simpson hasn't played a 
lot. 

1456
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:15,480
But where I'm going to defend Ty
Simpson and I'm very, I do think

1457
01:15:15,480 --> 01:15:18,440
somebody's taking him late first
round, maybe the Steelers, maybe

1458
01:15:18,440 --> 01:15:20,520
something like that. 
Somebody's going to take them 

1459
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,960
And I would be. 
I think it's justifiable because

1460
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:27,680
Alabama amazing ran the ball 
awfully this year. 

1461
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:31,320
Do you know the Ty Simpson? 
What was the number? 

1462
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:37,320
Ty Simpson threw the ball 70. 
I said this from a couple of 

1463
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:40,760
months ago. 
I went 73 or 74% of the time 

1464
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:43,760
this year, which is like first 
and 2nd in terms of big time 

1465
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:46,160
college football. 
They relied on him so much. 

1466
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:49,600
They're running into Alabama 
with the running backs and the 

1467
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,400
access to the five star 
offensive lineman in the NIL 

1468
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:54,800
budget. 
Their running game was awful and

1469
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:56,920
real foot now as football fans 
know that I'm right. 

1470
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:00,120
So So what happens there Jay? 
Let me explain it to you there, 

1471
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,160
young buck, when you can't run 
the ball well right. 

1472
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,560
That's why I don't think it's 
very it's very fair to criticize

1473
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,280
Simpson and say he can't be a 
good pro because I think he 

1474
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:10,560
could. 
It needs to be the right 

1475
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,600
situation all right, so first 
down right going to run the 

1476
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,160
ball. 
They averaged like 3.4 yards of 

1477
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:20,000
pop, which was like 139th and 
praying college, but just awful.

1478
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,840
Trust me, the stats, every stat 
running was bad, right? 

1479
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:27,000
So all right, first and ten 
yeah, Alabama 25 up off tackle, 

1480
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:30,600
1 yard second and nine. 
And and that was a consistent 

1481
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:33,880
right away, consistent theme. 
You're behind the sticks, you 

1482
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,640
chasing first down, you chasing 
down in distance. 

1483
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,920
And I don't care who you are, 
you know, even like vintage 

1484
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:43,400
Peyton or whatever Vince Young 
attacks, whatever great college 

1485
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:47,480
quarterback, you're still not 
going to really be in a position

1486
01:16:47,480 --> 01:16:49,480
to to be set up to be very 
successful. 

1487
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,960
And I think Ty Simpson was 
statistically and from a team, 

1488
01:16:53,440 --> 01:16:56,160
you know, team perspective, 
still was very successful. 

1489
01:16:56,440 --> 01:16:58,760
And I think he's got enough 
confidence and enough 

1490
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:02,520
athleticism where if you want to
tell me now, I know a lot of Jet

1491
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:06,360
fans saved the three first round
picks for next year and I'm down

1492
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,960
with that, whatever. 
But if you want to tell me that 

1493
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:12,600
you want to somehow take one of 
them and and maybe trade into 

1494
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,240
the the back end of the first 
round this year or do something 

1495
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,920
in the 2nd and the third round 
this year and move into the back

1496
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:22,000
of the first or take the 16th 
pick, drop down somehow a crew, 

1497
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:25,640
another late first round pick 
and then go defense, defense 

1498
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:28,520
quarterback or defense wide 
receiver quarterback. 

1499
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,160
That's a little what Simpson? 
That's a little. 

1500
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:34,200
I just can't take him at 16. 
Can't just but I do like him. 

1501
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:37,120
I like him more than most 
people, not only just for The 

1502
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:38,920
Jets. 
I I think he's gotten a bit of a

1503
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,760
raw deal. 
I think Simpson can play. 

1504
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:46,240
It was the circumstances oddly, 
amazingly at Alabama, this 

1505
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:49,560
factory that just didn't really 
put him in a position to secede.

1506
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:52,320
It's the truth you got, you 
know, it's it's it's it's the 

1507
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:55,920
reality of what happened. 
So that's where I'm at with 

1508
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,080
that. 
Here, we got one from Omar 

1509
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:01,080
Yousef. 
J Rod, are you from Northern CT?

1510
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:04,640
Why are you a Celtics fan? 
My entire family's from Boston, 

1511
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,920
but I'm a southwestern 
Connecticut guy. 

1512
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:13,200
Southwestern Connecticut guy. 
So how far is that from Mohegan 

1513
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,120
Sun or some of the? 
Casinos pretty deep. 

1514
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,360
So I mean, I've been to Mohegan 
Sun once. 

1515
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,680
I actually my my pops and I went
to Caitlin Clark's first 

1516
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:22,160
playoff. 
Game did you really? 

1517
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,000
Was it a year or two ago? 
Yeah, yeah. 

1518
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:25,280
Nice dude. 
Yeah, it was. 

1519
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,160
Fun. 
I've been to that venue with the

1520
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:28,880
the arena inside the Mohegan 
Sun. 

1521
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,720
I went to see, I went to see 
Maris play there years ago. 

1522
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:33,000
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1523
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,240
As I mean, much more the crowd 
than Caitlin had, I'm sure. 

1524
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:38,920
And one of my one of my best 
friends who I roomed with and 

1525
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:42,320
played ball with it, Maris, 
Maddie, he's from up there, like

1526
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:43,760
in that, that part of 
Connecticut. 

1527
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:46,240
So he met me and his sister came
and we watched. 

1528
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:47,840
We gambled. 
You know, we had a good night. 

1529
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:50,280
No, I had. 
So you went to the game. 

1530
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:53,040
Did you actually gamble? 
Gambled a little bit, I guess. 

1531
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:54,440
Yeah, at the time I was probably
20. 

1532
01:18:55,440 --> 01:18:59,280
So we, I know we were going, we 
were playing some let it ride, 

1533
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,720
probably ride. 
Yeah, dude, he he loves that. 

1534
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,600
I like let it ride Now. 
Do you know how to play? 

1535
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:08,680
Do you remember how to play? 
Now no. 

1536
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:11,160
Apparently no. 
Let me give you a little tip. 

1537
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:12,400
And first of all, anything that 
you. 

1538
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,720
And that doesn't mean that I win
with regularity because you 

1539
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:16,680
don't. 
Yeah, I'm one of these truthers 

1540
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:18,120
here. 
Here, let me tell you a couple 

1541
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:21,040
of little secrets here. 
Number one, anybody that you 

1542
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:26,560
know that brags about how much 
they want, oh, I won $10,000 

1543
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:31,240
this weekend on the NFL or 
college football or I won 17,000

1544
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:34,080
playing blackjack or playing 
craps and so and so casino. 

1545
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:37,560
Let me tell you about that 
person that persons losing a lot

1546
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,280
more than they're winning 
because number one, you only 

1547
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:41,880
tout the wins. 
You don't go walking around 

1548
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:43,480
saying I got my ass handed to me
later. 

1549
01:19:43,480 --> 01:19:45,440
I mean, you might tell your 
buddies, but you're not really 

1550
01:19:45,440 --> 01:19:47,680
making it public, right? 
Oh, I got bent over. 

1551
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:51,120
I lost 13,000 playing blackjack.
They pulled the six card 21 and 

1552
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,560
I got screwed. 
No, you, just you, you, you brag

1553
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:57,480
about the wins, number one. 
And if you win that much money, 

1554
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,960
even if it's once or twice a 
year or whatever, that means 

1555
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:05,520
that you are willing to gamble. 
That much to have the threshold 

1556
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:10,800
to win that much, which means 
invariably you lose 20-30 fifty 

1557
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,400
and obviously a lot more for 
some people. 

1558
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:16,280
So if you know anybody that's 
bragging about how well they're 

1559
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:18,000
doing in the NFL, they're 
losing. 

1560
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:20,320
That's number one. 
That's number one. 

1561
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:22,080
I know all about this stuff, 
dude. 

1562
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:24,440
I lived in Vegas, man, I don't, 
I don't gamble the way that I 

1563
01:20:24,440 --> 01:20:25,880
used to, but I, I had a lot of 
fun. 

1564
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,480
The other thing too is let it 
ride. 

1565
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,400
It's a fun game. 
And I remember the first time I 

1566
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,880
played it was in Las Vegas. 
I told the story here on 

1567
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:34,840
unleash. 
I'm not going to tell the whole 

1568
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:38,000
story again, but I was drawn 
into the, to the music, the 

1569
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:42,400
song, because I'm playing 
blackjack, playing blackjack, 

1570
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:45,560
trying, trying to learn how to 
play and, you know, figuring 

1571
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:47,600
things out a little bit. 
My buddy had no idea, almost got

1572
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:49,440
into a fight with somebody 
because he messed up the car. 

1573
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:51,600
Oh God almighty. 
There was like 2 in the morning.

1574
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:53,400
It was a disaster. 
And I'm like, come on, dude, 

1575
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,040
let's go. 
Let's just leave the table. 

1576
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:58,360
And as we're walking around 
around the casino, I hear Rob, 

1577
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:04,440
Rob, Rob. 
I'm like, where is that coming 

1578
01:21:04,440 --> 01:21:06,040
from? 
That sounds like a fun game. 

1579
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,920
And it is fun. 
And it's actually very 

1580
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:12,320
misleading unless there's 
another game like a Pie Gal war 

1581
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:13,640
game that I really haven't 
played. 

1582
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:19,080
The lowest rated odds in terms 
of favoring the house and not 

1583
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:22,520
favorable to us the idiot 
consumers is let it ride. 

1584
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,600
But the you so you have the 
greater greater chance to lose. 

1585
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,040
But the, but here's why it's 
misleading. 

1586
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:32,400
You place your bets and if you 
remember and if you see dad says

1587
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,120
he likes this game, tell him 
what I said. 

1588
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:38,280
He's got to know this, right? 
So you place three bets up 

1589
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:42,200
there, you get dealt 2 cards. 
Each house varies like sometimes

1590
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,680
it starts with pairs, it's got 
to be 8 or higher. 

1591
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,760
Some are like on a casino ship 
or on a cruise ship at the 

1592
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:50,080
casino, it's got to be face 
cards or higher. 

1593
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,360
What it it does vary, but 
generally it starts in eights, 

1594
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,560
right? 
So say if you get dealt pocket 

1595
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:58,760
aces, but what you know, 88 and 
you have the three bets up. 

1596
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,200
Let's say you have 1/4 up 
252525. 

1597
01:22:01,440 --> 01:22:04,800
So what you do is oh, I'm good. 
I got a chance to get three. 

1598
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:07,920
I get you know what a full how 
all these possible options. 

1599
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:13,080
You keep the first bet up there.
If you get say a three and a 

1600
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:16,640
nine that are unsuited, you pull
back your first bet. 

1601
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:18,360
You haven't lost any money. 
There we go. 

1602
01:22:18,440 --> 01:22:20,640
So people think that they're in 
control of their money. 

1603
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:22,560
Let it ride. 
Here's where they screw you. 

1604
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:26,400
Now the next card comes up, that
shit, still nothing damn ass cuz

1605
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,000
hand sucks. 
Let me pull back the second 

1606
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,160
hand. 
OK, this is easy. 

1607
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:33,040
I'm not going to lose. 
I'm going to get it. 

1608
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:36,720
You can't pull back the third 
hand and you have to remain in 

1609
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:39,000
and you're not, you're not 
playing the dealer. 

1610
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:41,600
You're you're you're playing the
cards that are flipped. 

1611
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:45,440
So people think because they're 
in like you can't pull back 

1612
01:22:45,440 --> 01:22:48,000
cards in blackjack. 
You know, you could, you could, 

1613
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:50,360
you could say I'm, I'm, you 
know, I don't want to take a 

1614
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:53,400
hit, but you can't literally say
I'm taking my money back. 

1615
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,400
You can. 
Accept last time. 

1616
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,240
And last time? 
All right, good to know. 

1617
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,760
Good tips. 
I got them all dude. 

1618
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:02,840
You want a laugh? 
You want a laugh? 

1619
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:07,720
I gotta laugh. 
So when I am in, I'm living in 

1620
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:12,600
Las Vegas and it's my second 
radio job and I'm young, I'm in 

1621
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:18,640
my not even quite yet mid 20s, 
right, Making no money, figuring

1622
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:23,400
out the industry, you know, 
hustling weekend shows, night 

1623
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:26,040
shows, updates, all that stuff, 
just really grinding. 

1624
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:32,960
And I think I was 24, whatever 
was So we, it's funny, 

1625
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:34,080
everyone's like you lived in 
Vegas. 

1626
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:37,000
I lived off the strip. 
I lived in Henderson, which is 

1627
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,680
about the fact, if I recollect 
very nice. 

1628
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:41,120
And I wish I had money. 
I would have bought property. 

1629
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:43,360
I'd be, I'd have, I'd have a lot
more money than I have now. 

1630
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,040
See, I didn't have any money 
because it exploded, dude. 

1631
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:48,800
Anyway, so we lived in Henderson
and we rented this house and it 

1632
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,640
was like me and four of my 
buddies that I worked with at 

1633
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:54,840
the old sports fan radio network
and one guy wrote for the 

1634
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:58,040
newspaper, great crew. 
And we had like 5 bedrooms 

1635
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:02,320
still. 
We just, we went, yeah, leave it

1636
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:04,120
at that for, for the sake of 
this pod. 

1637
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:07,880
We went absolutely batshit 
crazy, right. 

1638
01:24:08,440 --> 01:24:14,000
So my dad comes in, they visit 
me and my mom and like my mom 

1639
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:17,160
and, and, but, well, they, they 
go, they go shopping. 

1640
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:19,440
Like they hit the, the stores at
Caesar's with all the nice 

1641
01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:22,000
pocketbooks and my, me and my 
dad play golf. 

1642
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:25,840
We go out to a couple of nice 
dinners and my mom was going to 

1643
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:27,800
do something by her side, maybe 
pull the slots. 

1644
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:29,840
She doesn't want to play cards. 
And my dad's like, all right, 

1645
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,640
come on, let's go play cards. 
And my dad likes to go to AC and

1646
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:34,760
he gives me, I think he gave me 
300 bucks, right? 

1647
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:37,640
He's like, and this is 20 
something years ago, man. 

1648
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:39,600
So 300 bucks plus you're an 
idiot. 

1649
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,880
You can play for a while. 
He doesn't know that. 

1650
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:43,480
I'm basically playing every 
night now. 

1651
01:24:43,480 --> 01:24:45,160
I'm not playing for a lot of 
money because I don't have any 

1652
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:49,120
money, but I'm playing and I'm 
playing locally in Henderson, 

1653
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:52,000
not always going to the strip, 
you know, local pubs, you know, 

1654
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,600
having drinks, playing darts, 
just a blast. 

1655
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:58,640
And I'm playing my dad's next to
me and I'm playing two hands. 

1656
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:01,720
And he's like, wow. 
He's like, you're playing pretty

1657
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:02,480
aggressively. 
Yeah. 

1658
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:05,440
Yeah. 
And you know, he he he gets 

1659
01:25:05,440 --> 01:25:07,240
pretty nervous, but he not 
anymore. 

1660
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:09,800
But, you know, he's like, jeez, 
what's going on out here? 

1661
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,880
See you living in Vegas. 
I'm playing every side bet. 

1662
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,560
I'm playing two hands. 
And finally he looks at me. 

1663
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:18,200
And I'll never forget this. 
He looks at me. 

1664
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:22,600
He goes be careful out here. 
He could just tell the way I was

1665
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:24,360
playing. 
Yeah, I know, I know. 

1666
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:28,480
I lost a 300 like that, but I 
never really lost a lot of money

1667
01:25:28,480 --> 01:25:31,920
because I never had money, you 
know, and basically we would go,

1668
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:33,720
we would find these places off 
the strip. 

1669
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,040
I'm not just going to name drop 
and give them a free pop there, 

1670
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:37,800
but there's a lot of them off 
the strip. 

1671
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,120
We would only go to the strip on
the weekends when everybody 

1672
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:42,120
would come in, all the girls 
would come in for wherever 

1673
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:43,880
they're coming in from. 
You know, we're young, we're 

1674
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:46,200
single, they come in and now 
we'll go to the strip. 

1675
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:50,080
But we would stay local and 
again, like, you know, dollar 

1676
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:52,360
beers and play darts and just 
shoot the shit and have a good 

1677
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:54,400
time. 
But the locals and and what you 

1678
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:57,200
would do really, we would play 
because we get free meals too. 

1679
01:25:57,480 --> 01:25:58,560
Oh. 
OK, you. 

1680
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:02,120
Get comp meals nothing fancy but
if I can get a free pizza and 

1681
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:05,760
like a a rubber steak for for 
free and a potato. 

1682
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:06,720
No. 
Who's complaining? 

1683
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:11,400
No, I mean, imagine being your 
age and living in Vegas and, you

1684
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:13,920
know, making the money that you 
make now, I, you know, you're 

1685
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:15,560
hustling, you're stringing. 
I get it. 

1686
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:17,600
I've been there, man. 
I imagine you have a chance to 

1687
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:19,560
get a free meal. 
You do whatever it takes. 

1688
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:22,400
Anything dude, right? 
Oh my gosh, I might just take 

1689
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:25,440
the trip down to Atlantic City 
right now get try to get a comp.

1690
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:31,080
Yeah, I've been AC in a while. 
I yeah, I just, I've talked 

1691
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:32,040
about this. 
So I don't want to be 

1692
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:34,120
repetitive. 
I just don't have the time, you 

1693
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:37,520
see #1 like back in the day. 
And I won't disclose the number 

1694
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:39,280
because that's tacky. 
I don't want to be that guy, but

1695
01:26:39,480 --> 01:26:42,840
whatever was relative to me, you
know, I was doing well. 

1696
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:45,640
I was single, no kids. 
Like, so if I went and lost X 

1697
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:47,760
amount of money, I'm like, 
whatever, not a big deal. 

1698
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:52,400
I had a free room waiting for me
and, you know, a, a real steak 

1699
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,520
dinner waiting for me. 
And they'd even hook up my 

1700
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:56,560
buddies with a free room and it 
was fun. 

1701
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:59,840
But I mean, the way you feel the
next day, God, you know, 'cause 

1702
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:02,640
you're sitting there all night, 
you smoking a cigar, you bang it

1703
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:04,680
back, drink after drink after 
drink. 

1704
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,560
You wake up dead. 
You just wake up, you know, you 

1705
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,800
get older, you can't do it. 
Yeah, 'cause you're going up to 

1706
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:13,880
the room at 4:00 in the morning.
Yeah, if that. 

1707
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,760
Sometimes later. 
What do you got going on this 

1708
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:18,840
weekend, man? 
What do I got going on this 

1709
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:21,640
weekend? 
I'm going to figure it out this 

1710
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:24,240
Friday night. 
I mean, I got I'm working today 

1711
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:26,920
and tomorrow. 
Other than that, I mean, we'll 

1712
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:30,240
see what's good, see what we can
get after in New York. 

1713
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:31,920
Wait, wait, wait. 
What do you mean working today, 

1714
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:34,040
tomorrow you exclusive to BT 
Unleashed? 

1715
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:36,360
We got the contract buddy. 
We're not working. 

1716
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:38,520
Guitar Center? 
Come on now. 

1717
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:39,960
I'm teasing. 
Come on now. 

1718
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:41,560
These people need their 
instruments. 

1719
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:43,600
I know. 
How old were you when you first 

1720
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:47,000
started playing instruments? 
All right, so I started doing 

1721
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:50,920
mute like just like random music
and stuff in general, like just 

1722
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:54,000
production, not really musics 
but like making little beats 

1723
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:57,080
when I was probably 1314. 
Making beats how? 

1724
01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:59,440
Just like on my computer, just 
like. 

1725
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:01,960
So I was like, no, no. 
No, but with your hands. 

1726
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:03,840
What was it, 1950? 
Yeah, Yeah. 

1727
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:07,480
Go ahead. 
And then when I was a freshman 

1728
01:28:07,480 --> 01:28:10,760
in college is when I picked up 
bass and guitar and stuff like 

1729
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,400
that and started playing live. 
So I've been doing that for 

1730
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:16,720
almost like 6 years now. 
So let me ask you something 

1731
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:18,680
here. 
I've often said, you know, when 

1732
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:21,200
you think about like, and 
everybody's different, like, I 

1733
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:23,240
don't know, I, I'd love to know 
the answer to this. 

1734
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:27,520
Like, or take somebody like 
Einstein or any, any brilliant 

1735
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:29,960
person. 
Are they born brilliant? 

1736
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:31,720
No, I mean, I, I don't think so.
Why, though? 

1737
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:35,360
I've got, I think, I think 
certain, and I don't mean like 

1738
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:37,800
physical, like, oh, my dad's 63.
I'm not talking about physical 

1739
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:39,720
stuff of the intellectual 
nature. 

1740
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:42,640
I think that there's, there's 
certainly something to be said 

1741
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:43,880
for that. 
And of course, what you're 

1742
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,960
around, if you're exposed to 
classic music and math and words

1743
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:49,680
and what you watch and what you 
read or, and how you know just 

1744
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:52,080
how you're brought up, what 
school you go to, the 

1745
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:54,760
environment that you're in, 
Obviously that facilitates and, 

1746
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:56,240
and, and accelerates 
intelligence. 

1747
01:28:56,240 --> 01:29:01,400
Sure, but I always wonder 
because with me, like words made

1748
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:04,840
sense and I I felt like I was 
looking at honestly Latin. 

1749
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:06,840
No, I'm saying, you know, OK, 
I'm. 

1750
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,800
I'm very poor with math. 
But I just, I can't get it. 

1751
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:14,760
But when you started with music,
did did it make sense to you? 

1752
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:19,480
Like almost like in a way that 
was easier than most. 

1753
01:29:19,480 --> 01:29:23,040
Yes, I would say, I would say it
came very quickly. 

1754
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:26,840
But I also think that comes from
just putting a lot of hard work 

1755
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:30,920
when I initially first started 
doing music, you know, into it. 

1756
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:34,440
So it's like in those early 
periods where your mind is very 

1757
01:29:34,440 --> 01:29:37,320
moldable to, you know, learning 
a very new thing. 

1758
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:41,360
I think I was, you know, really 
getting after it two hours, you 

1759
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:44,160
know, almost 3 hours a day just 
practicing. 

1760
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:47,160
And I think when you do that, 
you know results are going to 

1761
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:50,080
come no matter if you're 
predisposed to something or not,

1762
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:52,000
like the hard work's going to 
pay off. 

1763
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:53,640
You know what, Jay? 
It just hit me. 

1764
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,600
I'm going to. 
I'm not talking to you, J Rod. 

1765
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:58,280
I'm talking to the BT Unleashed 
family here. 

1766
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:01,400
Just hit me. 
J Rod's going to be one of those

1767
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:04,680
cats that that lands an absolute
smoke show. 

1768
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:07,480
You're going to. 
No, I could. 

1769
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:08,640
I could. 
No, No, no, no, no. 

1770
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:09,640
No. 
Yeah, I could tell. 

1771
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:14,440
I could tell the, the, the very,
you know, humble presentation. 

1772
01:30:14,440 --> 01:30:17,800
You look like Dustin, but you 
got the music, you know? 

1773
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:19,520
You, you know, obviously. 
You see the game. 

1774
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:22,920
I I I I see how like. 
I just remember how I used to 

1775
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:24,760
try to get after it. 
Completely different than you. 

1776
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:28,360
I, I think, like I think I've 
seen movies like this. 

1777
01:30:28,360 --> 01:30:30,520
The guy who I'm not saying 
you're not good looking, don't 

1778
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:32,080
take it the wrong way. 
You're good looking, young man. 

1779
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:34,320
I don't, I don't mean it as a 
knock, but you know, you're not 

1780
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:36,760
Brad Pitt and neither am I. 
Like you're not going to walk 

1781
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:41,440
into a bar, have every woman or 
every young lady in the bar that

1782
01:30:41,440 --> 01:30:44,600
unless they think you're Dustin,
then they will, which will 

1783
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:48,480
happen. 
You are going to in a very 

1784
01:30:48,480 --> 01:30:52,560
unexpected, very smooth way. 
You are going to you're going to

1785
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:56,880
land the smoke show, dude. 
See, now you see, like, not what

1786
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:00,920
obviously there's no holding out
here, but like, you see. 

1787
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:04,160
It's almost like a genie. 
There's like a genie in my mind 

1788
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:07,480
that's telling me, oh man, the 
smoke show's coming. 

1789
01:31:07,480 --> 01:31:09,200
Soon. 
Yeah, we've been through some. 

1790
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:12,160
We've been through some 
tribulations, you know, we've 

1791
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:14,560
had to. 
We've had to slay some demons. 

1792
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:17,400
But yeah, we bought the boss. 
Battles coming. 

1793
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:20,800
Do you have a, do you have a 
certain preference, not like a 

1794
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,960
certain hair type or skin type 
or honestly? 

1795
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:26,720
I think all women are beautiful,
very like. 

1796
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:29,280
Let's stop. 
Cut the bullshit. 

1797
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:31,000
I mean that. 
I mean, yes, they are all 

1798
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,200
beautiful. 
Every person is a beautiful 

1799
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:35,560
creature in God's name. 
We all know that. 

1800
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:37,360
Cut the nonsense to what? 
What kind of what? 

1801
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:39,920
Do you like brunette girls? 
I like fake girls, OK? 

1802
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:41,960
I like girls who are did. 
You say thick girl. 

1803
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:43,760
You like thick girls? 
No fit. 

1804
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:48,240
Oh, I think you said. 
That would be what yo Jay, when 

1805
01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:52,080
I get gone wild on BT No, I mean
someone, I guess shorter than 

1806
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:55,200
myself usually. 
That's probably a, a pretty, you

1807
01:31:55,200 --> 01:32:00,160
know, a a better look in terms 
of the what's the, the American 

1808
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:02,440
Gothic? 
Image the aesthetics Yep. 

1809
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:05,040
So, OK, let me ask you this 
though, a little side swipe. 

1810
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:07,000
So what if you, you said you're 
5/8, right? 

1811
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:12,640
OK, So what if you meet somebody
and she's, she's, she's the one 

1812
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:15,080
Like you know you, you write a 
song for you, strumming the 

1813
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:16,760
guitar. 
You know you. 

1814
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:18,480
You're real. 
Going Ed Sheeran. 

1815
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:23,480
You're real in the smoke show, 
but when she puts heels on, 

1816
01:32:23,480 --> 01:32:28,400
she's 3 inches taller than you. 
That's life, that's life. 

1817
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:31,480
That's what all the people say. 
You're. 

1818
01:32:31,480 --> 01:32:33,760
Riding high in April, shut down 
in May. 

1819
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:35,440
It doesn't matter. 
What does it matter? 

1820
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:38,280
Look at this guy opening up, you
give him an inch, he takes a 

1821
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:39,720
yard. 
I like it just. 

1822
01:32:40,440 --> 01:32:42,840
That's awesome, dude. 
OK, wait, here's a good 

1823
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:44,040
question. 
Yeah, we got. 

1824
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:46,360
Ask Jay. 
This is just for the music fans.

1825
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:48,960
Who's my favorite bassist all 
time? 

1826
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:51,760
Right? 
So Flea from Red Hot Chili 

1827
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:53,600
Peppers. 
I love Red Hot Chili Peppers. 

1828
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:55,440
That's. 
Really what got me into it. 

1829
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:57,880
But I'm gonna give it away. 
Give it away. 

1830
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:03,040
Sir, I'm gonna go the person 
who's influenced me the most, 

1831
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:06,320
John Paul Jones from Led 
Zeppelin or Paul McCartney from 

1832
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:08,040
The Beatles. 
Dude, Led Zeppelin have you? 

1833
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:10,640
Did you? 
I know you saw making making 

1834
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:11,840
Zeppelin. 
What's the name of the 

1835
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:13,560
documentary? 
Making Zeppelin. 

1836
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:16,200
I've seen, I've seen parts. 
Not the full. 

1837
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:17,520
I know, I know. 
I'm bad. 

1838
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:18,440
Are you? 
Kidding me? 

1839
01:33:19,480 --> 01:33:21,520
Homework. 
Yeah, no, that beat. 

1840
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:23,880
Street beat St. and making 
Zeppelin. 

1841
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:26,120
Zeppelin first, just based on 
what we're talking about Yeah, 

1842
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:28,640
Beat St. talking about that 
yeah, I love Beach St. 

1843
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,080
Beach St. the king of the beat 
because we rocking that beat 

1844
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,800
from across the street. 
But you have to see making. 

1845
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:37,080
I will admit, I will admit, 
first of all, I think it's about

1846
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:39,960
3 hours. 
It's it's a little long for me, 

1847
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:46,640
but it's such an in depth look 
at their their musical genius 

1848
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:48,920
that I think that you would 
appreciate more than me. 

1849
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:53,680
Like I'll give listen, I like, 
you know, well, give me a couple

1850
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:55,440
of Led Zeppelin songs, like 
their most popular. 

1851
01:33:55,440 --> 01:33:57,560
Whole lot of love. 
Whole lot of love. 

1852
01:33:57,560 --> 01:33:59,480
All right, what else do you got?
Keep going. 

1853
01:33:59,480 --> 01:34:01,640
What's another ones like the 
real popular ones? 

1854
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:03,880
Communication breakdown. 
It's the one that. 

1855
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:08,360
Kind. 
Of goes like, that's a good one.

1856
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:15,360
What's a heartbreaker? 
Obviously, Stairway to Heaven. 

1857
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:17,040
Well, that's phenomenal. 
That's that's that's what's that

1858
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:18,320
7 minutes long? 
All right, we'll go with the 

1859
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:20,920
names here. 
I say that because I like Led 

1860
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:22,680
Zeppelin. 
I don't love Led Zeppelin, 

1861
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:25,240
right? 
OK, you know, I, I really, I, I 

1862
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:27,920
think that they, they very well 
might be the number one band of 

1863
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:29,720
all time Beatles. 
I know this is subjective 

1864
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:34,080
clearly, but I understand and 
and I rank them based on the 

1865
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:37,080
great appreciation for their 
their musical accomplishments. 

1866
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:38,560
Like they're they're not. 
I get it. 

1867
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:42,560
I get it, But I they didn't 
resonate with me the way they 

1868
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:44,080
they do. 
Like if you're you're a Led 

1869
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:47,800
Zeppelin fan or you're you're a 
Led Zeppelin fan, like I hear a 

1870
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:49,440
couple of bangers. 
I'm like, oh, I love this song, 

1871
01:34:49,440 --> 01:34:51,920
crank it up, but I don't, I 
don't have many down. 

1872
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:54,200
I have a couple downloaded. 
I don't know a ton about the 

1873
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:59,560
anyway, I say that because it 
was not boring, but it was so 

1874
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:02,680
long and I always associated 
like Led Zeppelin when I was 

1875
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:05,480
younger with just some drug 
fueled, which they were 

1876
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:09,640
everybody was in the 70s, this 
70s, you know, tripping on acid 

1877
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:12,800
and and and I and I think I 
underrated their their musical 

1878
01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:15,600
exploits, right. 
But if you're a purist in the 

1879
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:20,120
musical sense, like I am in 
baseball, you're going to love. 

1880
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:22,280
And I thought this was a tick 
boring, even though I learned a 

1881
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:25,480
lot. 
It's a little slow going back to

1882
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:28,720
England like that. 
Their entrance into the You 

1883
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:30,120
would appreciate it more, is 
what I'm saying. 

1884
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:34,560
You have to watch that almost. 
Wait, so now I got a question 

1885
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:36,560
for you. 
So like, what are your, what are

1886
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:39,680
your kind of bands that you were
a huge fan of growing up, 

1887
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:42,640
whether it's like 90s, eighties,
70s, Yeah. 

1888
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:43,880
No, I love it. 
I love it. 

1889
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:45,760
I love these kind of questions. 
I want to do this more. 

1890
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:47,680
I want to obviously do the 
sports content. 

1891
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:49,960
To be honest, Jay, Ron, I had to
make sure that you can handle 

1892
01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:51,960
this like I I can't just be 
pulling you in if I don't know 

1893
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:54,800
that you can handle the you know
the gravity what we're doing 

1894
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:57,280
here. 
No, no, no smoke here, but at 

1895
01:35:57,280 --> 01:35:59,160
least understand it and and 
you've earned that. 

1896
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:00,120
You've earned a little more 
rope. 

1897
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:03,360
All right, I always use the word
eclectic. 

1898
01:36:03,440 --> 01:36:05,760
I mean, I have a very eclectic 
taste. 

1899
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:07,880
Now. 
I will go back. 

1900
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:11,840
This is very interesting because
my dad loves like the Doo wop 

1901
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:14,400
stuff, Four Seasons and I do 
too. 

1902
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:15,840
I got used to hate it when I was
a kid. 

1903
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:18,800
I've really grown to appreciate 
it right as I've gotten older, 

1904
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:23,000
but he really only had one, you 
know, an Elvis and that was 

1905
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:25,520
pretty much it, right. 
And then so we'd always hear 

1906
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:26,600
that in the car when I was a 
kid. 

1907
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:29,480
He forces to listen to it that 
put on, you know, put on Michael

1908
01:36:29,480 --> 01:36:31,880
Jackson, that put on def left. 
Nope, Nope. 

1909
01:36:32,440 --> 01:36:36,120
So I remember I had a like the 
first record player that I got. 

1910
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:40,280
He came home with two albums and
one of them I totally get and 

1911
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:41,560
he's become my all time 
favorite. 

1912
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:44,560
That's Billy Joel, Billy Joel's 
number one forever. 

1913
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:47,560
You know, it's all like, I just,
I love his words. 

1914
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:50,800
I just love, I love the way he 
recreated himself. 

1915
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:52,440
I just, I love him. 
Love, love Billy. 

1916
01:36:52,440 --> 01:36:56,120
Right. 
And the other one was Rush 

1917
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:57,560
Moving Pictures. 
Wow. 

1918
01:36:57,800 --> 01:36:59,080
Great album. 
Yeah. 

1919
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:02,240
Great album, great album cover, 
great band. 

1920
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:05,560
But my dad had zero connection 
to Rush. 

1921
01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:07,000
I have no idea how we brought 
them in. 

1922
01:37:07,440 --> 01:37:09,280
So then he brought home another 
one. 

1923
01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:11,280
I think it was a 45. 
Steve Miller. 

1924
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:13,320
You know, Steve Miller's 
greatest now. 

1925
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:16,320
We used to listen to Steve 
Miller and, you know, maybe take

1926
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:18,360
some bong hits, do whatever. 
We're doing a call, you know, 

1927
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:21,320
and I love Steve Miller, right? 
But the Steve Miller song that 

1928
01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:25,080
he brought in was Abracadabra, 
which was. 

1929
01:37:25,440 --> 01:37:26,920
Wow. 
Yeah, it's a different kind of 

1930
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:30,480
cut. 
Totally more commercialized Abra

1931
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:36,160
and like that one right and pat 
well, white whites, white 

1932
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:38,840
panties with the satin lace or 
something one of the lines 

1933
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:40,960
there. 
So anyway, I was introduced to 

1934
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:46,560
to a very again, eclectic now 
like if I'm working out or in 

1935
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:50,400
the car, I do have some staples 
man, I want to hear fast stuff. 

1936
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:56,120
Now, I will incorporate some 
slow stuff to think, and I am 

1937
01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:58,840
pretty sensitive and pretty 
emotional. 

1938
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:01,400
So if I hear a certain song, I 
can get you. 

1939
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:04,680
Yeah, I can drive by myself. 
I think about my kids, my family

1940
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:07,560
happens all the time, right? 
So I would, you know, I love 

1941
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:09,280
Mötley Crüe. 
You know, I love the Beastie 

1942
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:11,240
Boys. 
You know, I love Def Leppard, I 

1943
01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:14,080
love the Stones, love old 
Michael Jackson. 

1944
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:16,800
I would say from Michael 
Jackson, once you got to bed, 

1945
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:20,800
yeah, I thought that was kind of
lost and get me off the wall, 

1946
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:23,400
give me a little Jackson 5, give
me obviously beat it. 

1947
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:25,400
Give me, give me prime. 
Thriller. 

1948
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:27,800
Give me Thriller that was like 
that. 

1949
01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:32,040
I remember the video came out on
on MTV was like a 13, maybe 

1950
01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:34,240
more. 
It was like a mini movie and 

1951
01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:36,520
like you couldn't see it 
anywhere else. 

1952
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:40,560
But MTV I like. 
Then there's some other ones 

1953
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:42,080
I'll give you. 
It really does depend on my 

1954
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:44,880
mood. 
So when I was in college, again,

1955
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:47,680
never good in math and what I 
would do is here was my shortcut

1956
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:49,680
and I didn't really love 
studying either, to be totally 

1957
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:51,800
honest with you. 
So what I would do is I would 

1958
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:53,600
basically push everything off to
the side. 

1959
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:55,640
And then what is when it was 
crunch time? 

1960
01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:58,920
Like, I hate to admit this, but 
like I wouldn't really study for

1961
01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:00,080
quizzes. 
I wouldn't take it that 

1962
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:01,840
seriously. 
I just keeping it real. 

1963
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:04,720
But when it was time to make 
sure that I I got decent enough 

1964
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:07,880
grades and was definitely 
eligible to play baseball, the 

1965
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:10,920
writing, I would get A's and it 
would offset any bad grade, 

1966
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:12,880
right? 
And but I would usually have to 

1967
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:15,400
write, you know, you know, like 
pump out a towards the end 

1968
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:16,600
because I was late and all that 
shit. 

1969
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:20,120
And when I would do that, I 
would be in my writing bunker 

1970
01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:25,760
for hours upon hours, right. 
And I would listen to Creedence 

1971
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:27,800
Clearwater. 
Let's go. 

1972
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:29,520
Yeah. 
I would listen to obviously 

1973
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:33,080
Billy and I would listen to Cat 
Stevens like these. 

1974
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:36,120
Yeah, these thought provoking. 
It just worked for me. 

1975
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:37,800
And a little Pink Floyd, the 
wall as well. 

1976
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:42,480
It put it, put it put me in a I 
don't know, at a calming, sedate

1977
01:39:42,480 --> 01:39:46,080
mood where the words just kind 
of connected to the the thoughts

1978
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:48,760
connected to the fingertips. 
And I was able to pump out some 

1979
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:51,520
good writing content. 
So that's a long way of 

1980
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:53,200
answering. 
Who do I who do I like? 

1981
01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:57,000
The answer is a lot of, you 
know, the the police, the Red 

1982
01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:59,800
Hot Chili Peppers, I mean, 
Metallica. 

1983
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:03,280
Yeah, I think I said Mötley Crüe
for sure, if not Guns and Roses.

1984
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:06,200
I mean, I've seen the Eagles. 
I've seen all these in concert. 

1985
01:40:06,480 --> 01:40:09,200
But then I want to hear 90s, you
know, 90s gangsta rap. 

1986
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:12,840
I I I just told to. 
Very broad cross section, 

1987
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:14,920
definitely you know what I. 
Mean. 

1988
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:15,760
Very cool. 
Very. 

1989
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:17,640
I got a question for it. 
Before we start wrapping things 

1990
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:19,520
up, I, I think it's always a fun
question. 

1991
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:23,440
I think I asked Sal this too. 
I'm trying to remember what his 

1992
01:40:23,440 --> 01:40:27,240
answer was. 
I forget his answer, but if you 

1993
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:29,960
had the ability to, I'm going to
put you on the spot. 

1994
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:32,840
But I think you can handle this 
to transport because there's no 

1995
01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:35,400
right or wrong. 
Transport yourself back to any 

1996
01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:39,800
time period. 
OK, and put yourself in any 

1997
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:44,760
venue. 
What venue and what group or 

1998
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:48,200
what if it's an individual 
singer, would you want to be in 

1999
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:49,920
the audience? 
All right, I've got a couple. 

2000
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:53,000
So it's. 
Jimi Jimi Hendrix is the easy 

2001
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:54,320
answer. 
Jimi. 

2002
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:56,080
My two. 
Yeah. 

2003
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:57,760
I mean, he's just. 
He's my favorite. 

2004
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:00,880
He's my favorite in terms of 
like band, songwriter, 

2005
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:02,280
everything. 
It's all Hendrix. 

2006
01:41:02,480 --> 01:41:05,920
Nice. 
I'm going to say either he did a

2007
01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:08,600
concert in Hawaii, but I think 
my answer I don't know if you 

2008
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:11,480
ever heard of this spot Cafe Wah
in the. 

2009
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:15,000
I used to go to Cafe Wah. 
Yeah, right by Bleecker St. 

2010
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:16,000
there. 
Yep, right there. 

2011
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:18,160
I got some stories from there. 
Oh, man. 

2012
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:19,320
Of course I used to go there. 
Yeah. 

2013
01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:22,840
And the the The Rock'n'roll 
Cafe, I, I don't think it's 

2014
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:25,080
still there, but I used to go 
there all the time. 

2015
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:26,640
Dude, that's awesome. 
All the time. 

2016
01:41:26,680 --> 01:41:29,480
I, I did a show there, like I 
played there twice. 

2017
01:41:29,480 --> 01:41:32,120
So a year ago, two years ago. 
Really. 

2018
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:36,200
I know, I know Hendrix used to, 
he used to do shows at Cafe Wah.

2019
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:38,560
So yeah, like those early, you 
know. 

2020
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:41,520
Wait a second, Cafe Wah? 
So number one, it's still open. 

2021
01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:47,680
Yeah, it's, it's, it's 
different, different acts play 

2022
01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:49,080
there now. 
It's kind of smaller. 

2023
01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:52,160
They do a lot of like cover 
bands there, smaller kind of 

2024
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:53,760
singer-songwriter. 
OK. 

2025
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:55,360
And you're telling me that Jimi 
Hendrix. 

2026
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:57,440
So it was open in the late 60s, 
early 70s? 

2027
01:41:57,440 --> 01:42:00,680
Yeah, him and Bob Dylan used to 
play Cafe Wall. 

2028
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:02,400
Yeah, yeah. 
Holy shit, I didn't know that. 

2029
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:03,840
That's good. 
Look at look at J Rod. 

2030
01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:05,800
All right, keep going. 
I want to hear the list. 

2031
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:07,040
Don't short it. 
Don't short all. 

2032
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:08,520
Right. 
So let's go. 

2033
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:10,800
All right, I'll, I'll toss Jimi 
Hendrix up there and then I 

2034
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:14,160
guess the only. 
All right, this is going to be a

2035
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:14,960
weird one. 
We'll see it. 

2036
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:17,960
We'll see if the fans like it. 
Hold on, if you're thinking 

2037
01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:22,840
about that at at telly lot lot 
77 BT don't sleep by Michael 

2038
01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:26,320
Jackson's later catalog. 
You have slow songs that make 

2039
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:28,480
you think listen to heaven can 
wait. 

2040
01:42:28,480 --> 01:42:30,320
You'll thank me later. 
Interesting. 

2041
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:33,000
All right, man, listen, I am a 
man that is a has an open mind 

2042
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:34,880
telly. 
I appreciate that and and 

2043
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:37,360
understanding that it's 
obviously subjective. 

2044
01:42:37,440 --> 01:42:41,360
I just, you know what it was 
when Michael went to, you know, 

2045
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:44,920
he's bad. 
I I I just didn't like to get up

2046
01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:46,760
them. 
Like you wearing a leather 

2047
01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:49,160
jacket, like you're tough. 
You weigh 102 lbs. 

2048
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:50,960
I don't know. 
What are we doing? 

2049
01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:52,920
Like we're having fights in the 
subway. 

2050
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:55,800
Michael Jackson. 
Who is Michael Jackson beating 

2051
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:57,160
up? 
And then what's his name? 

2052
01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:00,760
What's the dude that used to 
make the, the parody songs? 

2053
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:02,160
Jeez, what's his name? 
Come on. 

2054
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:04,080
Oh, Weird Al Yankovic. 
Thank you. 

2055
01:43:04,440 --> 01:43:07,960
Then Weird al that I'm fat and I
can't get that out of my eyes 

2056
01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:11,400
and I'm fat so good. 
Good text right there. 

2057
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:13,440
Michael's one of my all time 
favorites. 

2058
01:43:13,440 --> 01:43:15,800
I'm just saying you like you get
off the wall. 

2059
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:18,480
You get late 70s, early 80s 
Michael bats. 

2060
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:20,320
But I'm going to, I'm going to 
get that song A. 

2061
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:23,640
Test No, he really he really did
just to continue that. 

2062
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:26,320
He really did delve into that 
because, like I think his what 

2063
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:30,440
his AF album after that was 
dangerous Michael Jackson 

2064
01:43:30,480 --> 01:43:33,920
dangerous. 
All right, I've got another, you

2065
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:35,720
know, take, I guess pretty 
similar. 

2066
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:38,560
I mean, I would don't forget the
venue, don't forget the venue, 

2067
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:40,840
the venue. 
All right, I'm going to throw. 

2068
01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:46,240
All right, yo, this would be 
crazy. 

2069
01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:49,640
Go ahead. 
Like OGNWA like. 

2070
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:53,960
Out West, out West Oakland 
Forum, the rocks got to be 

2071
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:55,280
something like that. 
It's got to be. 

2072
01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:57,240
It's got to be outdoors. 
It's got to be hard. 

2073
01:43:57,240 --> 01:43:59,840
Got to be outdoors and let me 
just let me, This is why I like 

2074
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:02,160
talking about this stuff, 
because you say something and 

2075
01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:03,680
then this might spur another 
thought. 

2076
01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:07,840
So when I was working in San 
Francisco, right, I was there 

2077
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:10,040
for almost 2 years doing an 
afternoon drive before I came 

2078
01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:12,280
back to work for CBS Sports 
Radio with Tiki right, just to 

2079
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:13,440
give you the quick chronology 
there. 

2080
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:16,600
And The Jets were coming as 
Rex's Rex part and all those 

2081
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:18,600
guys. 
And I remember Darren McFadden 

2082
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:21,680
like caught a screen pass or ran
one like 80 yards through The 

2083
01:44:21,680 --> 01:44:24,000
Jets defense. 
I'm like, now I know The Jets 

2084
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:26,200
defense isn't what what it. 
And that was the beginning of 

2085
01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:29,640
the end. 
Anyway, I went to the Raider jet

2086
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:32,640
game and Amy Trasko I did a lot 
of TV with and is the first 

2087
01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:34,400
female executive in the history 
of the NFL. 

2088
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:37,440
Wonderful woman. 
I love her if she I still check 

2089
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:40,120
Jason once in awhile. 
Love her just a great person, 

2090
01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:44,000
brilliant, awesome. 
And we did TV for seven years 

2091
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:46,160
together and sat she sat right 
next to me. 

2092
01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:48,840
Anyway, she got me tickets to 
the jet rate. 

2093
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:51,520
She knows I'm a Jets fan and I 
just moved out there and I'm 

2094
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:54,280
like, I'm not going to wear my 
Jets jersey in the place and and

2095
01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:57,920
be disrespectful when the head 
of the Raiders is giving me 50 

2096
01:44:57,920 --> 01:45:00,120
yards, You know, so I wore it in
the parking lot, whatever. 

2097
01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:04,680
And I remember there was this 
dilapidated stadium. 

2098
01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:06,640
And like, it's one of those 
things that you saw from the 

2099
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:09,520
70s, not really me in the 70s, 
but certainly the 80s. 

2100
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:12,240
And you know the what does this 
visual, same with Candlestick, 

2101
01:45:12,480 --> 01:45:15,400
what it used to look like in 
this vision that you conjure up 

2102
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:18,640
seeing the Yankees play there. 
And you know, the Giants in San 

2103
01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:21,440
Fran. 
And I remember they, their, 

2104
01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:24,080
their system, right? 
Their, their PA system was 

2105
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:25,600
antiquated, right? 
Like everything else. 

2106
01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:28,760
You're lucky if you take a piss 
and it doesn't roll all over the

2107
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:30,760
floor. 
I mean, it was just a disaster, 

2108
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:32,920
that place, right? 
And I remember as they're 

2109
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:35,920
getting ready to start the game 
and the system must have been 20

2110
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:37,680
years old at that point. 
You just hear. 

2111
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:46,760
Wait, I think you just clipped 
your mic. 

2112
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:48,000
I think you just clipped your 
mic. 

2113
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:53,080
I remember just the way it 
pulsated old school. 

2114
01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:58,640
Oh, that's so if you're going to
see N.W.A, that's why the ice T 

2115
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:00,880
and the way it sounded, it's got
to be the Coliseum. 

2116
01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:03,760
You can't see that indoors, man.
You can't see that in LA. 

2117
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:05,920
You can't see it though. 
You can't see it. 

2118
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:08,320
I guess you can, but you can't 
see it indoors. 

2119
01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:10,240
You got to see that one 
outdoors, in my opinion. 

2120
01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:13,200
No, yeah. 
I mean, now it my main thing 

2121
01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:16,120
with this question is just like 
it's got to be an artist or 

2122
01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:19,040
artists who it's impossible to 
see now. 

2123
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:20,520
Well, that's the whole point of 
the question. 

2124
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:22,240
So like, it's a time machine, 
that's why. 

2125
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:23,760
Who's? 
Who's your take? 

2126
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:26,360
Who's your take? 
OK, now I, I've got, I'm going 

2127
01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:30,360
to give you a couple and I won't
run down too much of detail. 

2128
01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:32,720
And some of these bands, 
ironically, one of them came up 

2129
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:34,440
yesterday and I don't, I don't 
even really like them. 

2130
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:36,680
Imagine. 
But just to be there and feel 

2131
01:46:36,680 --> 01:46:40,600
it, imagine seeing Queen at at 
at Wembley Stadium, at Wembley 

2132
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:42,680
Stadium. 
Yeah, I mean that that would 

2133
01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:45,440
just, that would be impactful. 
That would That's like the best 

2134
01:46:45,440 --> 01:46:47,400
concert ever. 
Well, that's that. 

2135
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:49,520
That's what I'm about. 
I'm an impactful kind of guy. 

2136
01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:52,560
I asked profound questions 
because I want profound answers.

2137
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:54,400
That's but this is about BT on 
these. 

2138
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:59,240
Alright, so that's one, I think 
The Beatles seeing The Beatles, 

2139
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:03,480
you know, certainly stateside 
when they first came, but even 

2140
01:47:03,480 --> 01:47:05,120
even over there would be 
amazing. 

2141
01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:10,680
I would have to say seeing now, 
it kind of give you more like 

2142
01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:13,200
more my, my wheelhouse, 
something that I would want to 

2143
01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:19,560
see because I've seen most of 
them. 

2144
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:23,600
Like I, you know, I, I didn't, I
never saw the Beastie Boys, 

2145
01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:25,560
unfortunately. 
And you know that that would be 

2146
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:28,480
pretty wild, man. 
And I'm going to see ACDC this 

2147
01:47:28,480 --> 01:47:30,400
summer. 
But I've seen almost every, I've

2148
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:33,200
been to about 2530 concerts. 
I've seen almost every other 

2149
01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:34,880
one. 
So I'm trying to think of like 

2150
01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:37,440
historical stuff like the Queen 
at Wembley. 

2151
01:47:37,440 --> 01:47:39,200
And again, I only like 4 or five
of their songs. 

2152
01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:42,960
That would be sick. 
I like. 

2153
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:45,880
This one right here. 
Johnny Cash in Folsom prison 

2154
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:48,440
withdrew. 
Great, great answer right there.

2155
01:47:48,440 --> 01:47:49,640
That's a good one. 
See that? 

2156
01:47:49,640 --> 01:47:52,080
I like that. 
That's creative there, I think. 

2157
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:57,560
See, it's got to be outdoors to 
me and there's only so many 

2158
01:47:57,560 --> 01:47:59,440
outdoors. 
Like I didn't see Pink Floyd, 

2159
01:47:59,440 --> 01:48:05,240
but I saw Rodger Waters, right? 
And I saw Rodger Waters it when 

2160
01:48:05,240 --> 01:48:08,200
we were out in San Francisco 
right around 2011. 

2161
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:11,200
It was like the The Wall tour, 
but it wasn't all the Pink 

2162
01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:12,800
Floyd. 
And those of you who are huge 

2163
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:14,160
Pink Floyd fans, you know what I
mean? 

2164
01:48:14,440 --> 01:48:16,680
And it was phenomenal. 
It was all the songs and it was 

2165
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:19,320
at the Giants baseball. 
I whatever they call that, I 

2166
01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:21,680
still forget what they call it, 
the John with the Giants play. 

2167
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:25,000
I still call it PAC Bell, 
Monster dot or I know what they 

2168
01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:28,560
call it. 
And just the scenery. 

2169
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:33,320
You could see Alcatraz, you can 
see the Bay Bridge, you can see 

2170
01:48:33,440 --> 01:48:35,440
the Golden Gate Bridge. 
And. 

2171
01:48:35,440 --> 01:48:39,920
And I, I remember, yeah, maybe, 
you know, maybe taking a little,

2172
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:41,680
you know, taking have a little 
fun that night, right? 

2173
01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:46,920
And I, I remember and my wife is
not even a big, big fan. 

2174
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:52,120
And we came home from work. 
She was selling TV ads for the, 

2175
01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:53,880
the Warriors and the, and the 
giant station. 

2176
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:56,840
I was, I was doing radio. 
So we come home and I've got 

2177
01:48:56,840 --> 01:49:00,120
like a bottle of Scotch for me 
on the table, maybe something 

2178
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:03,040
else, a bottle of wine for her. 
And she didn't even really, I 

2179
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:05,720
mean, she wanted to go because 
it was a concert, but she wasn't

2180
01:49:05,720 --> 01:49:08,240
overly excited. 
And I was playing Pink Floyd 

2181
01:49:08,240 --> 01:49:10,080
music as we were getting ready. 
Then we just walked in the 

2182
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:11,360
stadium. 
We lived right there, right? 

2183
01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:14,840
And we had, we got another glass
of wine on the, along the 

2184
01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:17,400
Embarcadero and where we were 
sitting. 

2185
01:49:17,440 --> 01:49:21,160
You know the way the wall starts
as like the missile or the 

2186
01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:23,920
begins to come down. 
Yeah. 

2187
01:49:25,440 --> 01:49:28,080
And then and it starts the 
musical. 

2188
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:33,800
We were sitting behind home 
plate, a little bit high by 

2189
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:35,760
design. 
I wanted to be up high and all 

2190
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:39,720
of a sudden this like fake, not 
bomb or missile, I don't know, 

2191
01:49:39,720 --> 01:49:42,360
whatever it was. 
And again, I'm feeling pretty 

2192
01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:45,400
good, if you know what I mean. 
Comes right in front of us. 

2193
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:51,520
Holy. 
Loud just permeates the entire 

2194
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:53,880
stadium, let alone the entire 
area. 

2195
01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:56,720
And then like it kind of goes 
toward the and as soon as it 

2196
01:49:56,960 --> 01:50:00,600
hits the ground now they start 
getting into the instruments and

2197
01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:02,640
the concert starts. 
And I don't know if you're going

2198
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:05,000
to get crazy, dude, it was wild.
I don't know if you're going to 

2199
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:08,520
get that if you're at the garden
or if you're at the Staples or 

2200
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:11,360
forum. 
The old, the old Forum in LA, 

2201
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:13,960
the old Boston Garden. 
I don't know, Like that's why to

2202
01:50:13,960 --> 01:50:17,600
me to incorporate outdoor venue,
which is why even though I don't

2203
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:20,760
love Queen, like Wembley 
Stadium, to me is is pretty 

2204
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:22,240
interesting. 
Yeah, definitely. 

2205
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:25,480
So you saw Pink Floyd when they 
were still Pink Floyd? 

2206
01:50:25,480 --> 01:50:26,720
No, I didn't. 
That I was. 

2207
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:28,720
That's why I said I just Rodger 
Waters. 

2208
01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:31,120
Oh, it was just Rodger Waters. 
OK, OK, but. 

2209
01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:33,040
It was all the songs. 
It was all from the from the 

2210
01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:33,680
wall. 
Yeah. 

2211
01:50:34,440 --> 01:50:36,240
No Dark side of the moon. 
It was, it was, it was. 

2212
01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:38,720
It wasn't dark side of the moon.
It was literally the wall. 

2213
01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:42,240
Like they did top to bottom. 
Oh, yeah, yeah. 

2214
01:50:42,280 --> 01:50:44,000
And then it ended. 
I don't even know how they did 

2215
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:45,840
this. 
Like the he was in front of the.

2216
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:48,560
I think he was in center field. 
Yeah, he was in center field. 

2217
01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:52,920
And somehow the like, it wasn't 
the outfield wall, but I think 

2218
01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:56,080
right in front of it was this 
digital wall that they put up. 

2219
01:50:56,360 --> 01:51:00,360
So when the concert ended, like 
the wall Pink Floyd, the wall 

2220
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:03,200
crumbled and it was set to the. 
Music. 

2221
01:51:03,480 --> 01:51:05,840
Oh Dang it. 
Was really good. 

2222
01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:08,560
It was good. 
Anything else before we start 

2223
01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:11,800
wrapping things up? 
Here buddy, I listen, I've got 

2224
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:15,400
nothing BT fam. 
Thanks for another great week 

2225
01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:18,880
Listen excited to get after it 
next week. 

2226
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:22,160
I know what's happening. 
Yankees spring training 105 

2227
01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:24,320
today. 
Is that is that what's going 

2228
01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:25,920
down? 
Yeah, people are hype about 

2229
01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:26,680
that. 
I mean. 

2230
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:29,440
I mean really very. 
I think Jazz is playing so he 

2231
01:51:29,440 --> 01:51:33,120
can get his start on 5050 today.
Not no judge. 

2232
01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:34,520
Many of the regulars are not 
playing. 

2233
01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:37,240
I look at the roster. 
It's a travel day, so no. 

2234
01:51:37,240 --> 01:51:39,720
Yeah, but it's baseball. 
We'll flip it on and see what's 

2235
01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:41,240
going on. 
I did see there. 

2236
01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:44,880
Woodstock, the recreation of 
Woodstock in 94. 

2237
01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:46,120
There you go. 
That's the 94. 

2238
01:51:46,120 --> 01:51:48,000
Woodstock. 
My buddy actually worked it 

2239
01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:49,560
right. 
The guy that I used to go to 

2240
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:50,880
Cafe Wild with my one of my 
best. 

2241
01:51:50,880 --> 01:51:51,760
Friends. 
OK, cool. 

2242
01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:54,800
Who's that blast, Right. 
And, and he did that. 

2243
01:51:54,800 --> 01:51:57,480
I remember he was, we're still 
in college and he was doing that

2244
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:00,200
like security, whatever you 
could. 

2245
01:52:00,200 --> 01:52:03,800
One thing I will say, you 
couldn't pay me even though, and

2246
01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:08,400
I think Hendrix was there and 
you know, Jefferson Starship and

2247
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:10,960
I just the names that were at 
the original Woodstock. 

2248
01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:16,080
You could not pay me to go to 
Woodstock in the 60s or whatever

2249
01:52:16,120 --> 01:52:19,040
it was, whatever year it was, I 
could not live like that. 

2250
01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:20,760
And I know it was a different 
time. 

2251
01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:25,000
I cannot walk around and 
interact with people who smell 

2252
01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:28,240
and like you have no privacy to 
go to the bathroom. 

2253
01:52:28,360 --> 01:52:30,600
It's nice. 
I don't care how good the drugs 

2254
01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:32,760
were. 
I don't care how good the music 

2255
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:34,600
was. 
I got no interest in that. 

2256
01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:38,600
I cannot function like that. 
You know, I, I've camped twice 

2257
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:40,880
even and and it's fun. 
I don't know that I'll ever even

2258
01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:43,080
do it again. 
But even one night in the tense 

2259
01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:45,880
enough, I'm good. 
I'm an outdoorsman to an extent.

2260
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:49,920
But walking around, no 
deodorant, like just smelling 

2261
01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:54,200
and not not having any privacy, 
not being able to shower a mud 

2262
01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:58,400
mosh pit. 
No, I I've been, I don't care if

2263
01:52:58,400 --> 01:53:03,680
Janis Joplin and and she was 
there and Jimmy and Starship and

2264
01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:06,320
the doors. 
The doors is another. 

2265
01:53:07,040 --> 01:53:09,320
That's another good one, right? 
I know I can't. 

2266
01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:13,720
I honestly like I I would have 
thrown them like up there in my 

2267
01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:15,360
answer too. 
Here's a Here's a good. 

2268
01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:17,080
One you pop it up there, you 
know I got it. 

2269
01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:18,160
We were we were thinking the 
same thing. 

2270
01:53:18,160 --> 01:53:19,920
All good. 
How do you say that? 

2271
01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:22,480
All right, say that name for me.
Shvoy. 

2272
01:53:22,480 --> 01:53:26,560
Goodell, the guy, he's back. 
That's right, Shvoy Goodell. 

2273
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:30,520
No one going to say Sinatra? 
How about the main event MSG in 

2274
01:53:30,520 --> 01:53:32,320
74? 
Good answer. 

2275
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:36,840
Yeah, I mean, Sinatra doesn't 
really do it for me. 

2276
01:53:36,840 --> 01:53:39,800
I, I hate to say that I got to 
be honest, it's. 

2277
01:53:39,800 --> 01:53:41,880
Fun. 
Like, I like his music. 

2278
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:43,240
It's good. 
It's good. 

2279
01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:46,280
They're good songs, but it's not
like I'm going to be amped up 

2280
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:49,920
going to the Sinatra concert. 
It's going to be a nice evening 

2281
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:51,480
like. 
Yeah, I know, I know. 

2282
01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:53,320
I go to the Copacabana, you 
know. 

2283
01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:54,680
Yeah, it wouldn't be the Mickey 
Mantle. 

2284
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:56,640
It wouldn't be, like one of the 
best nights of your life. 

2285
01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:58,520
You'd be like, yeah, I went out 
to see Sinatra. 

2286
01:53:58,520 --> 01:54:00,320
We got some wine. 
I took the lady out. 

2287
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:02,040
Yeah. 
Yeah, yeah, exactly. 

2288
01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:04,920
Yeah. 
Like you go to you, to me, you 

2289
01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:07,880
go to Sinatra. 
And then the the objective, if 

2290
01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:09,880
we're going to keep it real, is 
to get the hell out of there as 

2291
01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:12,760
quickly as possible to get home.
You know what I mean? 

2292
01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:14,800
Exactly. 
With these concerts, I'm looking

2293
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:16,160
to hang out all night pretty 
much. 

2294
01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:18,600
Big time. 
Yeah, I But then again, let's be

2295
01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:19,960
fair. 
So. 

2296
01:54:19,960 --> 01:54:22,120
So I don't even know what 
Frank's prime was. 

2297
01:54:23,080 --> 01:54:26,120
What if he said 74? 
I mean, I know roughly, but 

2298
01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:30,000
let's say Frank Sinatra's prime.
I don't know. 

2299
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:33,640
I mean, maybe it was like when 
Eminem performed in his prime. 

2300
01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:37,080
You got no, no, hold on, You got
to think about the time frame. 

2301
01:54:37,480 --> 01:54:40,360
So I mean, Frank Sinatra's, even
though I don't love his, I don't

2302
01:54:40,360 --> 01:54:42,040
want to talk about New Yorker. 
I love that one. 

2303
01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:44,800
The other songs, yeah, whatever.
And there's a couple. 

2304
01:54:44,840 --> 01:54:48,800
I get it. 
But when he was performing in 

2305
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:58,280
real time, the energy there and 
his grip on society was not 

2306
01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:02,560
dissimilar to, you know, Eminem 
going, Oh my God, you know, so 

2307
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:04,960
maybe it would be more fun than 
we're thinking about. 

2308
01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:07,880
Yeah, I mean, certainly at the 
time it you would literally 

2309
01:55:07,880 --> 01:55:10,920
pretty much be seeing one of. 
I mean, I don't know if Elvis 

2310
01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:13,720
was even, you know, granted, my 
timelines might be a little. 

2311
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:14,960
I got you. 
I got you a little bit of that. 

2312
01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:19,200
Well, Elvis, I think Elvis died 
in 77, I want to say. 

2313
01:55:19,200 --> 01:55:21,080
I want to say it was 77. 
Pretty sure. 

2314
01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:24,120
So they so they shared the 
limelight for some time then 

2315
01:55:24,120 --> 01:55:25,920
then yeah. 
I mean, if you were to have been

2316
01:55:25,920 --> 01:55:29,160
seeing Frank Sinatra at that 
time, yeah, it would be like 

2317
01:55:29,160 --> 01:55:33,960
seeing Eminem in 1999 or 2004, 
2002, Yeah. 

2318
01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:38,000
In the peak of everything. 
This is this is the guy. 

2319
01:55:38,760 --> 01:55:39,760
But hey, Rod. 
Yeah. 

2320
01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:42,040
But that's the whole premise. 
Build us on it. 

2321
01:55:42,080 --> 01:55:42,960
So OK. 
OK, OK. 

2322
01:55:43,360 --> 01:55:45,800
Because originally we both shot 
it down, but I'm again 

2323
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:48,880
transporting ourselves. 
Yeah, if if I was back there 

2324
01:55:48,880 --> 01:55:51,440
with the bowler hat, I got my 
suit going. 

2325
01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:54,080
Yeah, Franks, And it'd be the 
night of your life. 

2326
01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:56,040
Little cufflink action maybe? 
A little A. 

2327
01:55:56,240 --> 01:56:01,440
Little, little, little little 
bar, little gold bar, you know, 

2328
01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:06,440
ironically, my, my grandfather, 
I collect and I haven't, I don't

2329
01:56:06,440 --> 01:56:09,760
really wear them anymore, but 
there was for more than a minute

2330
01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:12,920
when, when I was wearing 
cufflinks all the time and a lot

2331
01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:17,440
of tie bars, right. 
I've probably got about, I'd say

2332
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:21,040
40 to 50 pairs of cufflinks good
like some vintage, like some 

2333
01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:24,360
really good, some solid ones, 
all different varieties, really,

2334
01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:27,960
really cool. 
And I've got probably 7 or 8 

2335
01:56:27,960 --> 01:56:30,080
cufflinks. 
Pardon me, 7 or 8 tie bars. 

2336
01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:31,440
You know what the tie bar is, 
right? 

2337
01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:33,040
You know what I'm talking. 
About, yeah, yeah, OK. 

2338
01:56:33,600 --> 01:56:38,080
And one of them, my mom, when my
grandfather passed away, she 

2339
01:56:38,080 --> 01:56:40,400
saved it. 
And it's really small and it's 

2340
01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:43,640
gold. 
And my grandmother had gotten it

2341
01:56:43,640 --> 01:56:46,920
from my grandfather either for 
an anniversary or something. 

2342
01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:50,160
And it's like 70 years old and I
still have and I've worn. 

2343
01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:53,640
It yeah, that's nice. 
Yeah, and it's gold and it's 

2344
01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:57,360
held up and so I would wear that
to to Frank's concert fit right 

2345
01:56:57,360 --> 01:56:58,480
in. 
All right, let me get it. 

2346
01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:00,880
One more text here. 
See if any jump anything jumps. 

2347
01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:01,760
Here's. 
A good one. 

2348
01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:03,040
Which one? 
You got some guy? 

2349
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:04,160
Yeah. 
All right, go. 

2350
01:57:05,120 --> 01:57:09,000
Ahead, after meeting you at our 
sales conference, CCM, I've been

2351
01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:13,440
addicted to watching your show. 
Wish you and Sal were back on 

2352
01:57:13,440 --> 01:57:16,840
TV, but I did watch your joint 
podcast on the plane home from 

2353
01:57:16,840 --> 01:57:19,040
Florida. 
Made it fly by. 

2354
01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:20,960
Yeah, that's awesome, Kev. 
I appreciate it. 

2355
01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:24,640
So that was the motivational 
speaking that I did was I guess 

2356
01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:25,880
it would have been LED today's 
Friday. 

2357
01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:28,480
Yeah. 
So last week up at Pearl River, 

2358
01:57:28,480 --> 01:57:32,520
NY, Great, great crew. 
Really good moment for Cross 

2359
01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:36,000
country mortgage as well. 
They won the $1.5 billion 

2360
01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:38,280
mortgage Cup. 
So it was a massive celebration 

2361
01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:41,800
and I was the keynote speaker 
and I was honored to do it and 

2362
01:57:41,800 --> 01:57:44,240
it was it was awesome. 
So I met Kev, I met the entire 

2363
01:57:44,240 --> 01:57:46,720
crew. 
My buddy Mike Paris works there,

2364
01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:50,680
got to meet, excuse me, some of 
the executives and now have a 

2365
01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:53,800
relationship with them. 
And that was that was a lot of 

2366
01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:56,200
fun. 
Boy that that's a room Kev. 

2367
01:57:56,200 --> 01:57:57,600
I could have hung out there all 
night. 

2368
01:57:57,880 --> 01:58:00,960
I could have like it was I could
have, I could have hung out 

2369
01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:03,480
there all night, but we get out 
the the bar was open, but I 

2370
01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:05,880
wound up leaving it like out of 
seven or so. 

2371
01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:07,640
My wife and I had to get back 
babysitter. 

2372
01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:10,960
I think my daughter or or my son
had a basketball game. 

2373
01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:14,200
We had something going on, but 
awesome room, great people, 

2374
01:58:14,200 --> 01:58:16,520
great opportunity. 
I got some pictures if you guys 

2375
01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:18,480
want to check it out on on the 
YouTube page here. 

2376
01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:21,360
And if you go to the post there,
I've got a picture, Kev. 

2377
01:58:21,360 --> 01:58:22,600
I don't even know if you've seen
it, Kev. 

2378
01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:27,320
I got the entire crew, you know,
where we had all 80 or 90 of us 

2379
01:58:27,320 --> 01:58:28,880
there. 
So thank you for checking in. 

2380
01:58:29,120 --> 01:58:32,160
And that's that's a strong word.
Not like, Hey, BTI loved it. 

2381
01:58:32,480 --> 01:58:35,200
I I enjoy it. 
Addicted to the to the show on 

2382
01:58:35,200 --> 01:58:37,040
There you go. 
That's what it's some magic 

2383
01:58:37,080 --> 01:58:39,400
right there. 
That's Yeah, as you guys could 

2384
01:58:39,400 --> 01:58:40,920
tell, it's not just about 
sports. 

2385
01:58:40,920 --> 01:58:41,920
I'm gonna hit some of this 
stuff. 

2386
01:58:41,960 --> 01:58:44,680
You know, I had to figure out J 
Rod if he can handle this, like 

2387
01:58:44,680 --> 01:58:47,480
I can't have some mumble and 
stumble and dope taking up my 

2388
01:58:47,480 --> 01:58:48,720
air time here. 
I'm trying to pay for the 

2389
01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:50,840
vulgage. 
Exactly, exactly. 

2390
01:58:50,840 --> 01:58:53,880
Gotta come on, get a good back 
and forth, get a good report. 

2391
01:58:53,880 --> 01:58:57,200
And honestly, that's what I'm 
loving is like, you know, we're 

2392
01:58:57,200 --> 01:58:59,320
getting to know each other on 
air. 

2393
01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:01,600
It's I think it's cool. 
I think it's a great thing. 

2394
01:59:01,600 --> 01:59:04,280
And, you know, obviously just 
excited to keep it going. 

2395
01:59:04,520 --> 01:59:07,280
Atta boy will you keep it going 
have a good weekend this weekend

2396
01:59:07,280 --> 01:59:09,440
let me say goodbye to everybody.
J Rod do you thing. 

2397
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:13,720
All right, so J Rod is out. 
Let's see Yeah, I'll flip on the

2398
01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:15,360
Yanks at some point today just 
listen. 

2399
01:59:15,680 --> 01:59:18,800
Even though maybe one or two 
guys that will actually be 

2400
01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:21,600
playing when it matters will be 
playing today to me. 

2401
01:59:21,600 --> 01:59:24,960
And this is even with the NFL, 
the preseason games be nothing. 

2402
01:59:25,200 --> 01:59:28,440
You see the uniform, you see the
field, you know, the crack of 

2403
01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:29,760
the bats, especially with the 
baseball. 

2404
01:59:29,760 --> 01:59:30,880
I'm all for it. 
I can't wait. 

2405
01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:33,760
And most of the snow is washed 
away now. 

2406
01:59:33,760 --> 01:59:35,880
I I think we're going to get a 
little, I think it's going to be

2407
01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:39,760
more sleety freezing rain, I 
believe on Sunday. 

2408
01:59:40,080 --> 01:59:42,880
But yeah, I'm a weather snob and
I always look at the weather and

2409
01:59:42,920 --> 01:59:45,640
looking ahead 10 days here, the 
Northeast, New Jersey, New York,

2410
01:59:45,920 --> 01:59:48,560
there's a bunch of 4849° days 
coming up here. 

2411
01:59:48,560 --> 01:59:52,240
So you know what, what remains 
of the snow will be gone. 

2412
01:59:52,560 --> 01:59:55,680
And then, you know, travel, 
baseball club baseball, 

2413
01:59:55,680 --> 02:00:00,040
softball, high school baseball, 
college baseball, Yankees, Mets,

2414
02:00:00,440 --> 02:00:02,600
golf, getting out there and 
playing golf. 

2415
02:00:02,600 --> 02:00:04,640
Bad golf at that, but getting 
out and playing golf. 

2416
02:00:04,880 --> 02:00:07,240
Before you know it, guys, spring
is getting ready to pop. 

2417
02:00:07,320 --> 02:00:10,960
But it's going to be awesome, 
which leads us into certainly 

2418
02:00:10,960 --> 02:00:14,440
the NFL draft, which will be 
amazing here on BT Unleashed. 

2419
02:00:14,480 --> 02:00:18,320
Amazing things that we have, 
can't announce them yet that are

2420
02:00:18,320 --> 02:00:21,320
beginning to percolate that you 
guys will absolutely love. 

2421
02:00:21,880 --> 02:00:26,320
The BT and Sal live show is 
absolutely April 2nd. 

2422
02:00:26,440 --> 02:00:30,120
I can't, I can't. 
The date changed April 2nd. 

2423
02:00:30,440 --> 02:00:33,120
Can't tell you the guest yet 
that we're targeting. 

2424
02:00:33,120 --> 02:00:34,840
It's going to blow your mind if 
it happens. 

2425
02:00:35,280 --> 02:00:37,360
Decent chance it does. 
Either way, me and Sal be out 

2426
02:00:37,360 --> 02:00:39,680
there out east. 
We'll tell you the venue when we

2427
02:00:39,680 --> 02:00:41,200
can. 
We're locking that in with the 

2428
02:00:41,200 --> 02:00:44,960
paperwork and then you know, the
masters and all the good things 

2429
02:00:44,960 --> 02:00:47,440
that that the spring yields. 
And I believe what is it? 

2430
02:00:47,440 --> 02:00:49,360
March 8th is when we spring 
ahead. 

2431
02:00:49,360 --> 02:00:52,320
So you know, days will get 
longer, things will open up, get

2432
02:00:52,320 --> 02:00:53,680
out of the house and start 
living again. 

2433
02:00:53,680 --> 02:00:55,560
So have an awesome weekend 
everybody. 

2434
02:00:55,560 --> 02:00:56,800
Appreciate you guys. 
You know that. 

2435
02:00:56,800 --> 02:00:58,640
Thank you for the text. 
Thank you for all that stuff 

2436
02:00:58,920 --> 02:01:00,280
like it. 
You got to start pounding the 

2437
02:01:00,280 --> 02:01:02,560
button like I'm doing my job. 
You guys aren't doing your job 

2438
02:01:02,560 --> 02:01:04,800
enough pounds in the button. 
Just not I'm caught the way it 

2439
02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:07,480
is for what we're doing. 
It's got to be more likes, 

2440
02:01:07,480 --> 02:01:09,400
period. 
I mean, I'm giving you guys good

2441
02:01:09,400 --> 02:01:11,720
shit. 
You guys need to hit that button

2442
02:01:11,720 --> 02:01:14,520
more and start picking it up. 
All right, if you're going to 

2443
02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:17,240
keep it real with me, I'm going 
to keep it real with you. 

2444
02:01:17,720 --> 02:01:19,720
Do your job better. 
Do your job. 

2445
02:01:19,920 --> 02:01:21,760
What does Belichick say? 
Do your job. 

2446
02:01:21,760 --> 02:01:23,480
He didn't say anything anymore. 
He lets his girlfriend do 

2447
02:01:23,480 --> 02:01:25,760
whatever she wants with that 
stupid T-shirt that she was 

2448
02:01:25,760 --> 02:01:29,560
wearing about with with craft. 
But yeah, subscribe like it. 

2449
02:01:29,560 --> 02:01:31,600
Check out some of the other 
content on the page if you're 

2450
02:01:31,600 --> 02:01:33,320
new. 
Have a great weekend. 

2451
02:01:33,320 --> 02:01:35,160
Be safe. 
Monday we're back unless 

2452
02:01:35,160 --> 02:01:36,840
something wacky happens over the
weekend. 

2453
02:01:37,120 --> 02:01:39,680
Good luck to the Johnnies 
tomorrow noon tip Creighton 

2454
02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:43,800
looking for 13 straight wins and
I will see you on Monday. 

2455
02:01:43,840 --> 02:01:44,280
Peace.
