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How's everybody? 
Interesting day. 

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Anything new going on today? 
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What's happening? 
BT Unleashed with you off the 

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red eye and the Jodies are going
to the Sweet 16. 

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It's absolutely amazing. 
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spend a lot of time on that. 
I am not going to spend well. 

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Then again, I say I'm not going 
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was said on WFAN this morning. 
Who knows, I might. 

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We'll see where this goes. 
All right, so I get off the 

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plane and I get hit with text, 
text, text, text, text, tweet, 

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tweet, tweet, tweet, obviously 
about some things that that Geo 

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said about me on the air today. 
So I, I listened to him. 

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I did a lot of people sent me 
snippets, right? 

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And I listened to him and I 
said, all right, how, how do I, 

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how do I want to attack this, 
right? 

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I could go in lunatic mode, 
which I think a lot of you are 

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are probably expecting. 
And I might like at some point I

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might. 
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really feel that I have to do is
dispel some things that were 

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said now by Greg himself #1 So I
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on Friday with Evan and Tiki, my
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And you know, I've got love for 
Evan and, and I did text Ryan 

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Hurley. 
I said, hey, this was a couple 

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of days ago. 
I said if I said if anybody 

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wants me. 
And I didn't think that Gio and 

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Boomer would want me. 
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decent relationship with them. 
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although evidently we do now, at
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But I wanted to offer up my 
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you know, And if they accepted 
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And if they didn't, they didn't.
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from Hurley. 
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known Ryan Hurley for 20 
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the, the, the brand ambassador 
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Ryan, did I go back? 
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10:50 SPN Radio. 
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begging Hurley nonsense, 
straight up lie #1 it's a lie. 

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I mean, I'm not going to rant 
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It's just a mistruth. 
I offered my services. 

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I think I know a lot about Saint
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It's a big story it's the 
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many times by the way, I've got 
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I've got love for WFAN doesn't 
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any love for me at this point, 
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that's that's lie number one now
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into the interview, I just 
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works I get it and I and I 
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I think it was last week where 
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guess how you know, he came be. 
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that was I'm pretending I'm him 
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BT right now there were a lot of
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morning, lot of things that were
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would be taking a different 
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different energy. 
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really mean this, what I've 
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really not give a flying fuck 
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that doesn't really know me, all
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And Greg doesn't really know me,
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Greg, to be fair, right? 
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missed this or something with me
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had a good relationship. 
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like the character 
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don't care if Greg thinks I'm 
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That's fine, all right. 
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little jab that I got fired. 
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I wasn't really fired. 
My contract wasn't renewed. 

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That's fine. 
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stuff on the air. 
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If Greg wants to do that, knock 
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It's all good. 
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I really don't and I never will.
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But I went into the interview 
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that it bothered me. 
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guys. 
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said that Greg was not a good 
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the prank. 
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that. 
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didn't know because Greg never 
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for a pretty good not know, 
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this is this is what for me. 
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things that I would never do, 
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now. 
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myself on the air what Greg does
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modes of operation. 
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mess around. 
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Greg is a big guy. 
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Like I'm not going to say he's 
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He's good, very successful and 
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But when when you prank a 
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hallway, when you call on the 
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keep the story going or you keep
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That I was out perpetuating a 
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false, that I was out drinking 
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underage, That's not cool. 
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it's funny, it's not cool. 
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don't cross. 
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line. 
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I was still going to have enough
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who work there full time. 
I wasn't going to bring it up. 

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I wasn't now when Evan asked me,
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I'm going to be authentic like 
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If I if, if I'm anything, I'm 
authentic, right? 

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I think you guys always know how
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I think I wear my emotions on my
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I think that's one of the 
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done in my career so far. 
Like, I'm going to tell you 

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what's in my heart. 
I'm going to tell you how I 

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feel. 
And that did bother me. 

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And you know, if like if, if I 
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and I'm, I'm not, trust me, I'm 
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in the studio like a lunatic, 
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pretty fucked up, man. 
I, I would have said that to his

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face. 
That's fucked up. 

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Because when you have a job for 
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St. 
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yourself a certain way, right? 
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and, and now you're crossing a 
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make it up, but he added to it. 
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OK, So if Greg has a problem 
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think that he was a good 
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then that's Greg's problem. 
That's not my problem. 

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I'm I'm sorry that he feels that
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that I could feel what I found 
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things here, right? 
Well, you know, nobody liked 

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working with them at WFN, OK, I 
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about character guys like I I do
the I do sports. 

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I do this for a living. 
I'm not into the gossip. 

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I'm not into the drama. 
I'm not even talking about Greg 

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now I'm talking about in 
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I'm not into the radio beeps. 
I've never played that. 

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You've always heard me say that 
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come up on the tech stream on 
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taking a shit on WFN because it 
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me, I don't play into that. 
I always say, hey, you know, 

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let's go. 
We don't need to do that. 

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This is my thing. 
I've got love for the fan. 

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So I I think if anything that 
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professional now when Greg's and
Greg's opinion, I might not be 

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good enough to still be on WFAN 
and that's fine. 

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That's Greg's opinion. 
But what, what I do know is that

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the person that I was on the air
is always going to be the person

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that I'm off the air. 
Like I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm true 

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to what I believe in and I'm 
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And I believe that I'm authentic
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I try to do right by people. 
Now I'll see this too, like, and

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I'll, I'll even be, I'll even be
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been able to do this years ago. 
I'll be fair, I'll even be a 

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little vulnerable here. 
I really will when he says like,

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oh, he's got no sense of humor. 
There was a point where I, I 

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really didn't know how to laugh 
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I think that that's fair. 
I think that that's true. 

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that I have learned to laugh at 
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I take my job seriously. 
I take the content very 

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seriously. 
I take my responsibility to you,

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my fans, my audience, very 
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I don't take myself seriously. 
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the, think about the, the jobs 
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I was at ESPN Radio for 10 
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Ryan Hurley was my producer. 
Ryan Hurley will be a friend 

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until the day that we are out of
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Check. 
Michael Kay. 

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I was at Michael's wedding, OK 
Michael was one of my first 

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guest on this show. 
Love Mike and Mike's got love 

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for me. 
Don was a guest on the show. 

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I love Don and Don's got love 
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Stephen A's probably coming on 
this week and has been one of my

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biggest champions in the 
business that the mutual love 

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that we have for each other and 
the respect is undeniable. 

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I worked with Stephen A right. 
So that's 10 years at one 

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company, pretty good track 
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And then, you know, 13 years at 
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I want to see what you know, but
I'm very proud of the run and 

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I'm very proud of how I 
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And this is not to re litigate 
like my last show, like the 

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chapters been written, man, but 
the way that I walked out of 

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that studio, I walked out to me 
the way I would want my son or 

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my daughter to walk out if they 
were not, if when they face 

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adversity in their life, you 
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say this, but I am going to say 
this all right, because there 

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were times when Greg was a good 
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and that bothered him. 
And I can even respect that 

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because he did go to bath for me
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salute him for that. 
And I saluted him in real time. 

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I told him that I walked into 
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I said, appreciate that man 
Thank you. 

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That's a stand up move right 
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But like being a good teammate 
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teammate when it fits. 
And when Sal and I found out on 

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air live that Craig was coming 
back, all right now, they were 

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already gone that day. 
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relationship with them where I 
expected some long text like, Oh

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my God, I just feel like we 
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We were cordial and that was it.
Kept it moving, right? 

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Never 1 issue with Greg and 
never 1 issue with Boomer until 

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until now with, with, with Greg 
with this stuff, right? 

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So the next day, and, and maybe 
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my part, maybe, but I'm sitting 
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teammates just found out on the 
air that they lost their job, I 

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know what I would do. 
And I would pop my head in and I

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would say, even though you 
probably think Craig's better 

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than me and it's justified, and 
that's fine. 

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Craig's a rock star. 
I got no problem with Craig at 

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all. 
But to, to me the human thing, 

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the decent thing at that point 
if you're a good teammate, if 

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you're a good teammate would be 
to walk down. 

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Cuz I when I tell you my studio 
was here and theirs was right 

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there, right there like 5 feet 
away. 

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And to leave the, the station, 
you've got to walk past our 

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studio. 
And I was at the studio 

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everyday, bar none, by 8:30. 
That was my process. 

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Get ready, you know, get ready 
for crazy Sal and the four hours

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of yelling and the four hours of
awesomeness. 

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All right? 
And he could say whatever he 

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wants. 
Yeah. 

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I don't think we were fired 
because the show wasn't good. 

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I think he said we couldn't cut 
it. 

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Or I'll say I don't want to get 
sound bombed. 

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I couldn't cut it. 
I don't believe that that's 

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true. 
I think the show was really, 

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really good. 
And so did management. 

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It was unique circumstances. 
But that's fine. 

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I'm a big boy. 
I've moved on. 

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So that day, the next day, now 
it's in the newspapers and it's 

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everywhere. 
Nothing. 

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And again, I'm not even like, 
I'm not waiting for it. 

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But when it was, when it didn't 
happen, I was like, wow, that, 

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that OK, that's interesting. 
And then the next day, and then 

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the next day, and then the next 
day and then the next day. 

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Not a word, not a word. 
So yeah, there were times you 

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were a good teammate. 
I I agree with that. 

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But I know that and you're very 
entrenched there and you got 

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great ratings and you're making 
a good living and you've earned 

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it. 
You're good at what you do. 

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We we're very different talent 
wise, but you're very 

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successful. 
I've always said that we go go 

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and Google any article, all 
right, that was written about me

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going to FAN or me talking and 
espousing about WFAN. 

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I mean, the first go to line was
Boomer and Gio are a monster. 

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Like I always gave love. 
I always showed respect to the 

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morning show because I show 
respect to everybody. 

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So then now it's like wow, like 
a week or two, I guess. 

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I guess he really doesn't care 
that I'm basically getting fired

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and that's fine. 
All right, so then the then Sal 

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finishes up and now I do, as 
many of you know, I do last show

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by myself, right? 
The last week by myself. 

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And there were five chances. 
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, 

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Thursday, Friday. 
I don't need you to come in and 

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tell me something you don't 
believe. 

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I don't need you to come in and 
even emotionally prop me up 

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because I'm pretty resilient. 
But again, I know what I would 

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have done. 
Yo, Gio, that's a tough break, 

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man. 
Honestly, good luck, dude. 

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Miss you. 
That's it. 

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Even if you don't mean it like 
to me being, being a good 

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teammate is not selective. 
Being good, a good teammate is 

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when somebody that you worked 
with for a couple of years 5 

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feet away and the show right 
after you, they lose their job. 

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And you know, I've got two kids,
you know, I've got a pretty 

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expensive mortgage because 
you've been to my home once, but

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you've been here, you've seen 
it. 

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It's nice. 
It's not cheap. 

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Not a word. 
So I didn't forget that because 

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I, I, I wouldn't have done that.
I would have done the exact 

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opposite. 
So he went on a little rant 

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today. 
That's fine. 

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You know, you know, that's that 
awesome. 

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Knock yourself out, All right? 
You know, we, if you had any 

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real issues with me over over 
the years that we were together,

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you can walk down the hall to 
talk to me because I think I'm 

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very approachable. 
That's what grown men do. 

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I've done that with other 
people. 

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You know, I, I believe in that 
kind of communication. 

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If I ever did something so wrong
to you, come and come and 

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address it, you know, and you 
know all the other stuff too, 

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you know, like the, the not once
did I ever a matter of fact, I 

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laughed. 
I thought it was hysterical, 

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like the drops, the a gap. 
And you know, Brian Cashman, 

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that didn't bother me. 
I laughed. 

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I laughed. 
You know what? 

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I didn't laugh when you pranked 
your teammate. 

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You called me on the air and 
kept the story going. 

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That one wasn't true and two, 
was potentially dangerous for me

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in terms of employment. 
So that's where I'm at with 

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that. 
So I mean, there's a good chance

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that I'll never see Greg again 
the rest of my life unless I 

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bump into him in the game. 
I mean, we, we, we, we have no 

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bearing on each other's lives. 
I don't need him. 

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He obviously doesn't need me. 
I don't care. 

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He doesn't care. 
But don't come off as Mr. 

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Rennison here. 
You actually picked up the phone

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and you punked a teammate is 
what you did. 

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And for a whole year, you never 
told me. 

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And that was the story that 
bothered me. 

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All right, so I'm going to start
dialing it down now before I get

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too worked up and really say the
wrong thing. 

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All right, Again, years ago, 
this probably would have been a 

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very different presentation. 
I'm very comfortable where I am.

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I'm very comfortable how I'm 
pivoting and making something of

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my situation. 
Very proud of that. 

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It's not easy, you know? 
And Greg, I hope someday you 

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don't have to do it. 
Maybe you won't. 

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You know, you're you're WFAN 
royalty. 

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It's different for you. 
You know, you got Boomer, you 

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got a rock store next to you. 
You guys are coasting and you're

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going to coast as long as you 
want because everything, the 

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ratings are there and the 
revenues there. 

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All right. 
So as you sit in your tower and 

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you view downward on on the rest
of us peasants understand. 

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I never once had a problem with 
you at all until that one time. 

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And if you didn't like what I 
said with Evan, I'm sorry. 

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You shouldn't have done it. 
That's on you that that's not a 

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me thing. 
That's a you thing. 

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I didn't pick up the phone and 
prank you. 

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I didn't pick up the phone and 
prank Boomer. 

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I didn't. 
I didn't prank you and pretend I

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was Mike Francesa when Mike 
called your show and blasted 

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you, eviscerated you. 
I didn't do that. 

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I kept my mouth shut because 
that's not what I do. 

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You know what I mean? 
Like I Gen. like and I I I don't

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want this to be misconstrued 
because I'm not wired this way 

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when the I don't even not 
meltdown because I don't think 

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that that's fair. 
I'm trying to be respectful. 

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The the show where you even said
you, you had anxiety, whatever 

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it was like I felt so I felt for
you. 

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I'm like, wow, I'm like, he's 
really dealing with some shit 

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here. 
I hope he's going to be all 

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right. 
You know, so being a good 

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teammate is not just making good
radio, shitting on Carl Banks 

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and shitting on other people. 
And I did appreciate it because 

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you did have my back. 
But when nobody was watching, 

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where there was no bit to be 
done on the radio, when there 

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was nothing funny to be said, no
drop to hit by Eddie Scissari, 

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who, by the way, did come into 
the studio and gave me a hug. 

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I won't forget that. 
Eddie's been there since day 

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one. 
That meant something to me. 

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I'm like, and I even told him 
like, wow, I'm really touched by

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that. 
Eddie, thank you very much, man.

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Thank you. 
And I don't keep score about who

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did what because I'm moving on. 
You know, Evan asked me a 

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question. 
I answered it honestly. 

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You didn't like it Too bad. 
I don't know what to tell you. 

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You're the one who made the 
call, not me. 

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Not me, you know? 
And by the way, since since I 

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have such a rough time working 
with people at WFAN, why don't 

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you go and ask Sean Morash how 
I've treated Sean since he got 

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every promotion. 
Check Sean's text chain, every 

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promotion that that dude's 
gotten. 

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Dude, I'm so happy for you. 
Keep killing it. 

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This was after they let me go. 
Now I don't. 

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I don't have that relationship 
with Tommy. 

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I don't have Tommy's number. 
But I remember walking out of 

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the studio that day and you 
know, he, everybody was kind of 

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waiting and I said, dude, knock 
him out, man. 

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This is your shot. 
Go get it. 

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Like I, I, I don't operate with 
grudges or bias or jealousy. 

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And I'm not even saying that you
do I'm not, I'm not, I'm not 

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pulling you into that. 
But you could say whatever you 

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want about my lack of humor or 
anything that you want. 

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When you talk about my character
now, you're fucking dead wrong. 

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Now you're dead. 
That's the one thing that I will

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defend to the end of the earth, 
because there's not a part now 

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there might be a few people 
there that we I'll beat. 

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You know, he, he, he wants a 
certain thing on the air or you 

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know, he's, he's a little hot. 
You know, whatever hot, intense 

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with certain things. 
Ask Rami about the text I sent 

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Rami, you know, when I found out
he was taking over for Eddie, 

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thrilled for him. 
Talk to Connor. 

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Hey, Connor, how you doing, 
buddy? 

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How's everybody treating you 
here? 

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Has I have always gone out of my
way to make sure people below me

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and just in terms of money, like
in terms of status on the on the

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on the pecking order of radio, 
which I am no longer a part of, 

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right? 
I have always gone out of my way

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to try to do the right thing by 
people, by people, you know, 

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it's just a genuine care for 
others. 

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And you know, I'm not attacking 
your character like I'm not. 

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I'm not even doing that. 
But what I am saying is, and 

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I've said this now three times. 
That was your straight up week, 

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what you did with that prank 
call. 

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And now you got a problem 
because I didn't like it. 

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I don't know what to tell you, 
buddy. 

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That's that's just the way it's 
going to be, you know, So I'm 

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going to eventually move on from
this and have a blast with the 

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Johnnies and the Sweet 16 for 
the first time in forever. 

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But some of those things that 
were said, yeah, maybe one or 

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two are true. 
And he'd always laugh at 

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himself. 
Yeah, I got it. 

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I own it, you know, And you know
what it's called? 

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It's it's also Greg for me. 
It's also called looking in a 

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mirror, Right. 
And for me, trying to be better 

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at certain things, Right. 
I'll tell you something else. 

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And I wasn't even going to say 
this. 

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And I didn't say it in real time
and you didn't bring this up. 

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So I want to be, I don't want 
anything miss something because 

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I know you're going to be 
talking about this again on the 

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show tomorrow, right? 
Are we just going to go back and

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forth with this? 
I mean, I, I, I prefer not to, 

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but you know, guy calls you up, 
right? 

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Guy calls you up. 
Oh, I heard BT got kicked out of

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the game. 
I'm on vacation. 

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I am on a beach in Florida, 
Rosemary, Florida with my 

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family. 
Negan, I'm not saying you 

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started this. 
I won't be clear, but if I like,

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if I was you in that moment, I 
would have shot that down out of

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respect to you, you know, and, 
and maybe you did, maybe you did

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more than I'm giving you credit 
for, but that's something that I

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would not have leaned into 
because to me, you know, that's 

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I, I look at the things that I 
try to do for people and it 

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wanted and you know, and all you
guys know at the station how 

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much I love coaching, right? 
And to get pulled into that 

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while I'm on vacation, standing 
up for my team when we were 

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wronged. 
And it's like a bit on WFAN, 

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like I wouldn't have done that. 
I just would have done it and 

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you know, it, it bothered me, 
but you know, just kept it 

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moving. 
You do your show. 

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I do my show. 
But the the thing about like, 

441
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:31,160
even if you would have said and 
it I didn't know it was you, if 

442
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,440
you would have been like, as 
we're getting ready to hang up 

443
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,600
BT you're an idiot. 
How do you not know it's Gio? 

444
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,960
I would have left but for a 
year. 

445
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:44,520
So again, when I look at 
teammates and when I look at, 

446
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,880
you know, foxhole people and you
were foxhole guys sometimes you 

447
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,640
definitely weren't. 
I, I'm giving you that. 

448
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,520
You were. 
But when I lost my job, you 

449
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,680
didn't even say goodbye. 
And I don't think anybody knows 

450
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,600
that. 
So if you want to, you want to 

451
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:04,080
attack my character. 
I want people to know just how 

452
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,880
flippantly you ignored somebody 
losing their job. 

453
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:15,560
Not even goodbye, not even good 
luck, nothing. 0 not AP. 

454
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:21,520
So I am perfectly fine with what
I've said, how I've responded. 

455
00:24:22,120 --> 00:24:24,800
You know, you can make the jokes
and you guys can play the drops,

456
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,280
and those drops will be funny, 
I'm sure forever. 

457
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,680
Knock yourself out. 
And I think that that's 

458
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,520
genuinely funny, but I think 
that there's certain things, 

459
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:37,400
even in radio, you know, with 
bits and with ratings, to me, 

460
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,320
there's certain things that are 
off base. 

461
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:44,640
And and I just gave you one was 
the call to me and Sal. 

462
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,280
So that's that's where I'm at. 
I mean, J Rod, I get off the 

463
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,720
air. 
Where's my guy? 

464
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,440
What's up? 
I I get off the airplane today, 

465
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,840
right? 
I'm half asleep. 

466
00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:01,720
We are on the tarmac for. 
Let's see a we so the game put 

467
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,640
like we, they wound up getting, 
they gave up the rooms, but then

468
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,800
they got the rooms back because 
we had like 3 hours. 

469
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,560
And then we go to the to the to 
the private airport and we're on

470
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,320
the we're in the bus still for 
like 2 hours. 

471
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,640
Then we get on the plane. 
It's like, Oh my God, I landed I

472
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,480
think it was like 8 O3 812, 
whatever the hell it was right? 

473
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,960
Something like that, barely. 
I got Minko like this next to me

474
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,000
snoring. 
He's got, you know, he's got 

475
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,440
drool covered. 
No, man, he doesn't have drool. 

476
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,880
But he was like it was an 
uncomfortable, believe it or 

477
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,840
not, it was not a good charter. 
Like it was the NCAA chief down 

478
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,800
on the truck, very tight, very 
tight, awesome weekend chief 

479
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,440
charter. 
So I'm, I, I, I literally slept 

480
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,800
about 36 minutes and then I 
opened my phone because I wanted

481
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,920
to try to see the kids before I,
you know, I, I thought that 

482
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,920
there was a chance. 
I was trying to time this out. 

483
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,720
If daddy gets home around 8:00, 
they leave for school around 

484
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,480
8:20. 
I haven't seen them for five 

485
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:53,600
days. 
I want a couple of hugs and 

486
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,000
kisses there. 
I missed the heck out of them 

487
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,800
and I'm like, I'm not going to 
get. 

488
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,680
So now as I'm texting my wife 
and I text my son, he's having 

489
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,640
breakfast. 
I text my daughter on her iPad. 

490
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,360
Daddy's not going to see it. 
All of a sudden, Ding, Ding. 

491
00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:06,360
You know how like you get on a 
plane thing start popping off, 

492
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,320
Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, 
Ding, Ding. 

493
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,280
I'm like, and I and I and I, and
I figured I really did. 

494
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,240
I figured. 
I figured that that Greg would 

495
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,320
probably address that. 
I figured that he would. 

496
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,520
What he failed to address and 
the manner in which he addressed

497
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,840
my character is the only thing 
that I care about. 

498
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,960
Anything else? 
Knock yourself out, radio 

499
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,520
fodder. 
Have fun. 

500
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,240
That's cool. 
We never had a deep relationship

501
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,480
and we never will. 
And I don't need it and you 

502
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,960
don't need me. 
And that's OK. 

503
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,680
That's OK with the character 
stuff. 

504
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,280
I'm I mean, that's what that's 
the only thing that you take to 

505
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,880
your grave and I don't give a 
flying fuck what you think about

506
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,840
me. 
I really don't I just I don't 

507
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,120
care because there's enough 
evidence with the kids that I 

508
00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:54,440
coach and the people that I've 
worked with for a long time that

509
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,560
will say, you know what, it's a 
good dude, man. 

510
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,720
He generally try to do the right
thing independent of is he great

511
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,200
on the air? 
Is he good on the air? 

512
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,560
Did he get screwed by the fan? 
Was the fan just, I'm not 

513
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,560
talking about that subjective 
radio and interpretation stuff. 

514
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,880
I'm talking about the reliable 
emotional, be like the 

515
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,120
emotionally reliable person who 
genuinely cared about somebody's

516
00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:19,560
daughter at the station or their
son's first game or God forbid, 

517
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,320
if somebody passed away. 
Shoot the tag. 

518
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,520
I'm not saying I'm the only one 
who does that. 

519
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,080
I don't mean that. 
But you would make it seem like 

520
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,000
I'm walking around, you know, 
the way Greg planned this or 

521
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,200
plotted this or or laid this out
today, like I'm walking around 

522
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,840
the station and I'm taking mics 
and everybody's back. 

523
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,800
And it couldn't be. 
It's the complete antithesis. 

524
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,520
Like I generally have great 
pride and and I will look back 

525
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,000
with great fondness at my time 
at WFAN. 

526
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,200
I really, really will. 
But I got pulled into this today

527
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,720
and again, I wasn't even going 
to get into this when evident 

528
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,560
tiki, you know, And yeah, I I 
texted Ryan. 

529
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,560
I've known Ryan for 20 years. 
Yo, hurls you. 

530
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,600
Hey, if anybody. 
It wasn't even like, oh, I got 

531
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,560
to get on the fan. 
No, I don't have to. 

532
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,360
If anybody wants to talk Saint 
John's, it's the story. 

533
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:03,840
Dicks aren't in the playoffs 
yet. 

534
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,480
Yanks and the Mets haven't 
started yet. 

535
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,720
Giants hired horribaugh, Jets 
haven't drafted anybody yet. 

536
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,800
Rangers suck. 
Like it's St. 

537
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,680
John's. 
So I'm thinking, OK, you know, 

538
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,600
if there's one person that could
really talk St. 

539
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,520
John's, it would be me. 
I'm not saying men can. 

540
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,080
I'm not saying that there aren't
others. 

541
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,760
Of course there are. 
But that's been one of my 

542
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,200
connections for two decades. 
So I volunteered my services. 

543
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:27,120
He, I think he said like, yeah, 
we'll see. 

544
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,320
And then I think, I think this 
was after going into the Big 

545
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,000
East tournament. 
I think I texted him and then I 

546
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,120
circle back said, hey, listen, 
I'm not gonna, I did say so I'm 

547
00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:37,160
not gonna keep asking. 
I said, if you want somebody, 

548
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,000
let me know. 
And then he's like evident Tiki 

549
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,680
said they love to have you on 
Tiki's. 

550
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,280
My guy worked with him for 10 
years. 

551
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,560
And I, I, I want, I, I really do
want like Greg failed to miss. 

552
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,240
He missed this. 
He just didn't incorporate this 

553
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,880
in what he was saying. 
I was not at all. 

554
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,680
I was not going to bring that up
at all. 

555
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,080
But how weak would it be and how
disingenuous and inauthentic of 

556
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,520
me would it be when Evan asks 
me? 

557
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,480
Oh yeah, it was funny. 
I didn't think it was funny, no.

558
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,360
I, you know, that kind of thing 
messes with your career. 

559
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,760
I mean, I could go on a whole 
tangent, right? 

560
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,120
I mean if, if you'll allow me. 
By all means, did you? 

561
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,160
I just want to make sure I 
treat. 

562
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,720
You're right here, Jared. 
Yeah, yeah. 

563
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:22,000
So, so whatever, I wake up this 
morning, and I said this before,

564
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,000
it was like Paul Revere running 
through Boston going the British

565
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,520
are coming. 
I wake up in like a sweat to you

566
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,440
calling me going, you see what 
Gio said, You see what Gio said.

567
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,640
So I see it. 
And this is my thing with the 

568
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,520
character assassination as well.
It it just led to here's a big 

569
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,440
word. 
It led to like a cognitive 

570
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,160
dissonance when I'm watching it 
because the way he described you

571
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,160
is just not the human being I've
interacted with whatsoever in 

572
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,000
terms of how he's treated his 
producers, how he's treated 

573
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,800
people around him, how he can't 
laugh at himself. 

574
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,880
I feel like 90% of this show is 
you laughing at yourself having 

575
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,360
a good time, neither here nor 
there. 

576
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,920
Try to, you know, I mean, I'm 
not saying I'm the funniest guy 

577
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,720
in the world, but jeez, I I take
a lot of things seriously. 

578
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,000
Taking myself seriously is not 
one of them. 

579
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:11,400
Yeah, yeah. 
So it just it felt strange like 

580
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,640
at least to somebody maybe 
looking in from an outside 

581
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,440
perspective and I just I didn't 
see it. 

582
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,880
And then another thing, he just 
completely twisted the Joe B 

583
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,320
common thing about you talking 
about the fan. 

584
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:31,920
Like he clearly just saw the 33 
second Instagram clip of you 

585
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,280
talking and clearly didn't see 
the episode where you louded the

586
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,440
fan, where you you gave them 
their flowers always. 

587
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,680
And you and, and you were more 
so talking about, you know, the 

588
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,640
radio landscape and all that, 
you know, and how it's kind of 

589
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,160
shifted to the more of a digital
sort of thing. 

590
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,560
So you just completely missed 
there too. 

591
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:56,160
I just, I, I can't believe it, 
you know, onward and upward. 

592
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,120
Turn the other cheek. 
Come on now. 

593
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,120
Well, I mean, listen, even the 
I'm happy that you bring that up

594
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,400
with Joe like, and I'm not going
to say that Greg didn't see the 

595
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,120
whole thing. 
I don't I don't know, but it 

596
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,080
sounds like maybe he didn't, but
I'll leave the door open. 

597
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,920
Maybe that he did. 
Maybe that's his subjective 

598
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,120
interpretation of what I said 
and that's his right. 

599
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,840
That's fine. 
Like that's his opinion. 

600
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,920
One thing I learned a long time 
ago, you can't tell somebody 

601
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,440
that their opinions not right. 
You can say I don't agree with 

602
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,560
your opinion or maybe you have 
it wrong or you construe this, 

603
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,240
you know, incorrect misconstrued
this. 

604
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,080
But I I don't know. 
I doubt that he saw the whole 

605
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,320
thing because I don't think that
he's going out there watching 

606
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,560
BTL least YouTube shows. 
You know, maybe you see a short,

607
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,960
maybe stick with that. 
So maybe it was of the shorter 

608
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,200
variety, whatever, but what I 
said was true. 

609
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:50,000
There has been and it was after 
much lauding of the almighty 

610
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,600
FAN. 
It's the greatest sports radio 

611
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,640
station in the history of sports
stations. 

612
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,920
I said that forever. 
Chris Olivero is one of the most

613
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:04,720
brilliant, you know, decision 
makers and just voices that are 

614
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,240
he's a Titan of our industry, 
man, and before that, so is Mark

615
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,600
Chernoff. 
Like I'm not going to re 

616
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,760
litigate how amazing FAN is. 
That's not the point, you know, 

617
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,760
or, but, but the, the point from
that day where he pulled me into

618
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,080
the Joe stuff today with, with 
Boomer was that I was shitting 

619
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,960
all over the fan and I and I 
didn't it was called, it's 

620
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,960
called contextualizing the 
evolving marketplace. 

621
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,120
I mean, and even W, even when I 
was there, WFAN leaned very 

622
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,520
heavily into the digital aspect 
for a reason. 

623
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:35,920
They're not doing it for their 
health. 

624
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,880
They're doing it because 
digital, like the digital 

625
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,280
traction that they get on 
YouTube, they got 100,000 

626
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,400
followers, I guess a month or so
ago and a lot of the clicks and 

627
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,560
that you monetize that they're 
not idiots. 

628
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,880
It's another revenue stream. 
So to me when I say that the, 

629
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,400
the, the, the radio relevance 
and the radio revenue is 

630
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,720
slightly diminished from what it
was in its heyday, that's fact. 

631
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,880
That's a, that's not a knock at 
anybody. 

632
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,800
That's not saying this show is 
not good. 

633
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:08,080
That show's not good. 
I never once, I never once 

634
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:14,280
criticized a show publicly. 
There were times and you know, I

635
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,240
I I don't need that public 
validation, but I will just 

636
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,840
communicate to you. 
And how many times there are, 

637
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,600
especially now, like since 
things went down with the fan 

638
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,000
where I'm coaching third base or
I'm at one of my kids basketball

639
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,880
games or I'm coaching a 
basketball game. 

640
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,640
And you know, I don't mean my 
friend. 

641
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,080
So I know like my real close 
friends in town, but you know, 

642
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,000
maybe other towns that playing 
out, whatever they're like, 

643
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,760
dude, you know, what are they 
doing? 

644
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,480
How do they get rid of you? 
And and and keep. 

645
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,480
I'm like, yeah, it's their 
decision. 

646
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,880
Like, I never leaned into it. 
Like I never walked around with 

647
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,840
an ounce of animosity. 
I walked out of the station with

648
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,160
great gratitude for the 
platform. 

649
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,520
Now I earned it. 
I fought my way there. 

650
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,640
They didn't give me a fucking 
gift and say, this guy really 

651
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,240
wants to work here. 
Maybe we should put them. 

652
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,160
They put me on the air because 
I'm good. 

653
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,640
That's why they did it. 
And if you want to say they took

654
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,600
me off the air because I'm not 
good, if that's what Greg 

655
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,760
thinks, that's what Greg thinks,
that I don't care. 

656
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,480
I don't think that that's true, 
but that's his opinion. 

657
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,320
Evidently, you know? 
No, but any and anything that I 

658
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,600
said about the fan too, like I 
was reacting to what Joe said, 

659
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,159
which by the way is what you do 
in the content era, like Greg 

660
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:24,239
always reacts to things that are
said on Barstool and other 

661
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,480
outlets. 
So to me, for a place that I 

662
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,040
worked for three years and it 
was in the building for 13, you 

663
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,800
know, over 345 Hudson. 
You know, I'm not saying to Mike

664
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,480
and Chris or or even those guys 
in the morning, I'm not an FAN 

665
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,639
lifer, but I kind of am based on
the fact that I listened to it 

666
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:41,040
from day one and I did work 
there. 

667
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,840
I I know a little bit more about
the station than the average 

668
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,480
person. 
And to me, what what I did say 

669
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:51,280
was that those guys back then, 
they had a, it was almost 

670
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,760
easier. 
And I'll put quotes around the 

671
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,480
word easier, easier to be a star
because there was no ESPN 880. 

672
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,360
There was no, you know, bar 
stool. 

673
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,720
There was no SNY there just 
there's nothing. 

674
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:02,760
It was, I mean, there was just 
WFAN. 

675
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,040
So if you wanted to listen to 
sports, you listen to WFAN, even

676
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,840
if the person that you listen to
you thought was terrible or you 

677
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,440
hated them. 
And by the way, I know for a 

678
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,280
fact that some people got 
pleasure listening to me and Sal

679
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,840
because they hated us. 
I'm not an idiot. 

680
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,080
I understand that we rub people 
the wrong way based on our 

681
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,640
rawness. 
Come on. 

682
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,640
But that was, you know, that was
just being authentic to the job.

683
00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:27,280
Like that's I was telling you 
what I was feeling. 

684
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,920
So I'll never apologize for the 
effort because I don't need to 

685
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,240
the effort that I put into 
during my time there. 

686
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,640
I'm proud of it. 
I walked out with my head held 

687
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,520
high. 
I don't have any beefs with 

688
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,800
anybody there, but Greg was off 
base. 

689
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,160
Greg was out of bounds today. 
And you know, listen, if Greg 

690
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,200
now this I'll be Greg wouldn't 
have done this if I didn't say 

691
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,320
what I said with evident tiki. 
But and if and, and that's why 

692
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,160
I'm also mad enough to say that 
he was a good teammate at times.

693
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,720
That's why I want to make sure 
because he did say this. 

694
00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:58,640
I heard this part when he was on
his little rant today about the 

695
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,600
Carl Bank stuff And, and, and 
maybe my Gary Myers, he did have

696
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,520
her. 
He had our back, no doubt. 

697
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,760
But you know that that's, that's
only one side of the coin. 

698
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,880
The other side of the coin is 
you call up and you know, you 

699
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,720
keep a story going. 
That's not true. 

700
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,840
That could have got me in a lot 
of trouble and and maybe lost a 

701
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,720
job, but I choosed tremendously.
So that's what I'm pushing back 

702
00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:22,920
on. 
That's it, Jay Rod. 

703
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,680
Otherwise, dude, I just want a 
piece. 

704
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,360
I don't want any problems man. 
I mean, I mean. 

705
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,480
Hey. 
Listen, I feel like a big a big 

706
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,400
line of the unleashed mantra has
been the listen, I don't do the 

707
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,600
radio beef thing. 
I don't want to get into this 

708
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,240
whole thing. 
Obviously here, you know, you 

709
00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:43,960
got to address it and it's just 
ridiculous. 

710
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,680
It's just ridiculous. 
I I mean, I, I couldn't have 

711
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:52,400
seen something that, and the 
word isn't disagree, but just 

712
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:57,240
that I haven't found to be my 
experience with you whatsoever. 

713
00:36:57,240 --> 00:37:01,400
Like I mean, listen, I, I could,
I could go on right now. 

714
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,600
Yo, BT he's a tyrant. 
He's a tyrant to the producer, 

715
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,960
but not at all, not at all. 
This guy, this guy's giving me a

716
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,280
platform. 
This guy's genuinely tried to 

717
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:15,320
lift me up as his producer, give
me a space to speak, give me a 

718
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,720
space to do my thing, get 
comfortable on Cam, work, learn,

719
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,680
turn, grow, turn this thing into
a monster. 

720
00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:25,840
So I, I, I couldn't see any 
other differently. 

721
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,720
I I'm not sure who this is. 
The Good Shepherd Shep, he's one

722
00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:32,400
of your producers. 
He said produce for BT back in 

723
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,040
2013 at the network. 
Good man, good teammate. 

724
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:37,520
I know Shep. 
Criticism. 

725
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,200
I was with Shep for a couple of 
years. 

726
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,320
Yeah. 
I mean, yeah, let's, let's, 

727
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,360
let's get all the old producers 
come on in. 

728
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,920
I mean, let's, let's, let's get 
a scoreboard going here. 

729
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,840
Yeah, I mean. 
I'm such a bad dude to so many 

730
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,760
people, you know, I'd like to 
hear him speak out. 

731
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,960
I mean, I, I really well, you 
know, I mean, if they want to 

732
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,520
be, maybe I don't, I don't know.
No, listen, I'm also not going 

733
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,280
to sit here and say that there 
were at times that I was the 

734
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,040
always the easiest person to ask
my wife. 

735
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,280
I'm not the easiest person to 
live with, you know, I mean, 

736
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:10,240
when you are a high energy, very
opinionated, you know, type a 

737
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:13,000
kind of personality who is used 
to doing it a certain way. 

738
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,200
You know, if you bump into 
certain people that aren't as 

739
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,280
you know, malleable, maybe 
moldable, like where you know, 

740
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,680
they push back and you push 
back. 

741
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,160
I'm not saying it's it's it's 
always rainbows and and sunshine

742
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:28,600
every single day, but I really I
like I'm I'm not even saying 

743
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,120
this to make myself feel good. 
I really genuinely do feel good 

744
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,800
about, you know, the 
relationships that I had there, 

745
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,840
that I had there. 
Some were deeper than others, of

746
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,520
course. 
By the way, I just got a text 

747
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:40,800
message. 
I'm not going to tell you who 

748
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,480
it's from that would not do that
from somebody at WFANI. 

749
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:50,280
Just caught up this morning on 
drama and and me, but I want to 

750
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,280
make sure because if I read 
certain things, then it might 

751
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,520
divulge who it is. 
Never had issues working with 

752
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:59,720
you, blah, blah, blah. 
Yeah, I mean, again, guys, this 

753
00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:02,160
at the end of the day, what what
are we talking about here, man? 

754
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,200
I mean, life, life is hard, all 
right? 

755
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,200
If you think about how think 
about how hard life is, right? 

756
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,080
Life is hard. 
And not to get overly deep and 

757
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,840
overly dramatic here, but life 
is hard. 

758
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,600
It's not easy. 
You know, whether it's a job, 

759
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,000
whether it's covered somebody in
your family is sick or you know,

760
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,200
your, your, your kids are having
a rough time learning 

761
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,840
disabilities. 
I'm just throwing things that 

762
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,640
are afflicting so many people 
like I'm not going to take this 

763
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,560
very seriously and I'm not going
to keep playing this game going 

764
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,760
back and forth with Geo every. 
I've got no interest. 

765
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,160
No, I don't know. 
I don't know if he does, but 

766
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,640
he's going to be violin to 
himself. 

767
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,320
Like unless he says something 
that's a complete overt lie, 

768
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,160
like to me, the character stuff,
then I'm always going to defend 

769
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,960
myself. 
But I'm not, I'm not turning 

770
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,480
this into a bit. 
And yeah, I would probably have 

771
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,480
a few more viewers today. 
And the crazy thing is, is that 

772
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,160
this kind of stuff, sadly, this 
shit actually drives the medium.

773
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,960
And that's one of the reasons. 
We got 600 live viewers. 

774
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,520
Yeah, Well, well, we've had more
than that, but yeah, we've had 

775
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:58,680
1000. 
We've got AG. 

776
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,720
Oh yeah, no, I know. 
But no, it's it's a decent 

777
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:01,320
number. 
Whatever. 

778
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,080
I've never been in the. 
Business to say things that I 

779
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,560
don't believe in and, or, or to 
start friction and start 

780
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,520
trouble. 
And I, I just, that's not my 

781
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,400
world, man. 
There's too many other things 

782
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,840
that are just very important to 
me that I just don't. 

783
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,600
I've never jumped into that. 
I remember saying to salve a 

784
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,360
couple of times like, yeah, I, I
just, I'm, I'm not a radio beef 

785
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,760
guy. 
I'm not a radio war guy. 

786
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,600
It's just, it's boring to me. 
I don't know. 

787
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,200
It's, it's just not me. 
Like I didn't get into this to 

788
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,520
try to be Howard Stern. 
I got into this to talk sports 

789
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:38,160
and over the course of talking 
sports, I think that when I let 

790
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,360
my guard down and I fuck around,
I can fuck around as much as 

791
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,480
anybody. 
And you started seeing more and 

792
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,040
more on this channel, but I'm 
not going to force it. 

793
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,520
I'm not even talking about Greg 
now. 

794
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,640
I'm just talking about in 
general. 

795
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:49,880
Like I'm not going to force 
stuff. 

796
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:52,680
I wouldn't do what comes natural
and that's it. 

797
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,520
So here we are. 
You can, by the way, you can pop

798
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,040
up, pop up some text here. 
I know people want to jump in 

799
00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,800
and you know. 
Yeah. 

800
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,480
I mean, there's a, there's a 
million we'll. 

801
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,360
Let's. 
Go once I'll get to the party. 

802
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,040
Don't worry. 
All right, well, let's just go. 

803
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,360
Let's go with our main man Omar,
real quick. 

804
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:09,520
All right, Omar, what do we got 
here? 

805
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,160
Another new low for FA. 
And one thing. 

806
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:13,880
I like Craig. 
I like Craig. 

807
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,040
I do. 
Sorry, sorry, sorry. 

808
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:16,360
No, no, sorry. 
No. 

809
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,280
You sync to a new low when you 
shamefully bash people who did 

810
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,640
good, honest work at your 
station. 

811
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,200
I mean, I tried to, I tried to 
do good, honest work. 

812
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,240
I, I should have probably said 
like, I don't want to pull other

813
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:28,840
people's names into it. 
Like I, I actually, I really do 

814
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,840
like Craig and Craig's talented.
And I also said, you know, I 

815
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,160
don't know if other talents 
would be so transparent, but I 

816
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,320
even said in one of the 
interviews, I forget which one, 

817
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,400
maybe Barrett Media, one of the 
one of the one of the articles 

818
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,440
that was written at the end, I 
said, hey, if I was running the 

819
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,200
fan and Craig wanted to come 
back, I get it. 

820
00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:48,560
You know, you talk a business, 
you're talking about a an FAN 

821
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,000
superstar. 
And and that that was never me. 

822
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:56,720
I was a guy who got there late, 
but I'll tell you this, I, I 

823
00:41:56,720 --> 00:42:00,320
will, I will take a lot of pride
in in for a guy being there for 

824
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,680
a fairly short amount of time in
a midday slot. 

825
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,840
I'm not talking about Joe and 
Evan that they were they had a 

826
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,640
long, great run together where 
there was a lot of volatility 

827
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,960
and there was a lot of changing 
voices and a lot of changing 

828
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,720
teams. 
You know, we Salvati, we're not 

829
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,760
going to wind up being there 
57101215 years. 

830
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,440
But I'll tell you what we carved
out a little identity. 

831
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,400
Show had some juice. 
Show had some balls. 

832
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,920
Show had some range. 
Show made a lot of headlines in 

833
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,040
the midday. 
So, you know, I, I don't know 

834
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,680
what Greg's ultimate barometer 
is for a good show. 

835
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,880
I mean, of course rating, sure, 
but you know, the midday ratings

836
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,960
are never going to be like the 
morning show or the afternoon 

837
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,840
drive ever, historically ever at
any successful radio station. 

838
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,360
That's just not how it goes 
based on the amount of people 

839
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,320
who are in cars and the, the 
meter exposure. 

840
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,360
Like, I'm not going to lift up 
the curtain and I'm not even 

841
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:46,760
trying to take away from those 
guys. 

842
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,160
They do a good show. 
They do. 

843
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,800
But what Greg said today was 
bullshit, man. 

844
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,200
A lot of it was off base and 
just not right. 

845
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,920
It's not accurate, you know. 
All right. 

846
00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:00,720
You can tell that you had 
problems with BT when they 

847
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:03,000
brought up the Stephen A Smith 
and Tiki beef years ago. 

848
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,360
Yeah, I don't. 
I remember that vaguely. 

849
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,400
What did Stevie did Steven take 
a shot of tiki? 

850
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,960
What did Greg said? 
I didn't defend tiki enough. 

851
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,360
Is that what it was? 
I don't even remember. 

852
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:13,800
What? 
The story. 

853
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,880
Something like that. 
Whatever, we're going to drudge 

854
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,360
up all the other stuff. 
I, you know, I don't, I don't 

855
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:20,840
know. 
I don't know. 

856
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:25,280
All I know is that, you know, 
I'm about at my point where I'm 

857
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,280
getting ready to go into the St.
John's talk here. 

858
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,720
I want to make sure that I 
didn't miss anything here 

859
00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:31,440
because this is important to me.
Really. 

860
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,000
Again, if it was something 
stupid, if it honestly, if it 

861
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:40,560
was a story where Geo pranked 
me, was like, oh, yo, I heard 

862
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,280
you were, you know, I heard you 
had seven shots of Jameson with 

863
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,760
a couple of boosters last night.
You fell asleep in the hotel 

864
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,400
lobby. 
What do you want? 

865
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,440
Come on, What kind of like that?
Like, that's one thing. 

866
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,440
Because it's not. 
It's not with underage students.

867
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,600
You know, I'm saying like people
here. 

868
00:43:55,600 --> 00:44:00,320
Hold on, Jay, people hear stuff 
and they no longer sadly, sadly,

869
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,720
the way people consume our 
medium now, they no longer take 

870
00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:08,160
the time to really delve into 
the actual meat of the story. 

871
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,600
It's surface headlines. 
It's a click 20. 

872
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,840
It's a quick 22nd pop. 
It's alright. 

873
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,800
Let me read this lifted, 
extrapolate this and move on. 

874
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,480
You know, and sometimes when you
move on, there's some collateral

875
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,400
damage that that can be done. 
And to me, there's just a 

876
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,080
distinct difference between 
being funny. 

877
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,760
And I do think he's funny and I 
do think he's talented. 

878
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,520
But being funny and being 
talented and being a morning 

879
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,680
guy, which is different than 
doing middays and afternoons, I 

880
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,480
get it. 
It's a different speed, it's a 

881
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:34,960
different energy. 
It's a different, it's more 

882
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,680
light. 
And he's very good at that. 

883
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,840
But that was crossing the line. 
And I did. 

884
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,120
And again, I wasn't even going 
to say anything because Greg is 

885
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,240
no longer in my world. 
And I did not know about, I did 

886
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:49,520
not know it was him until three,
4-5 days ago. 

887
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,760
Now I'm trying to put myself in 
the shoes of if I was still 

888
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,240
working there because there were
times I would like, I would walk

889
00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:00,520
in and I would say what's up to 
those guys a lot and just 

890
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,760
bullshit with them, right? 
Whether it's about a Jets game 

891
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,520
or, or Saint John's. 
Like I know Geo's mom is a big 

892
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,480
Saint John's fan. 
I know Greg's a Saint John's 

893
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:08,840
fan. 
Like little things like that. 

894
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:14,200
Never too deep obviously. 
But if I was still working there

895
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,520
and it came out that it was 
Greg, like, again, I wouldn't 

896
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,600
have kicked the door open like 
it like a maniac, but I, I, I 

897
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,720
would have addressed it in my 
own way, in my own more mature 

898
00:45:23,720 --> 00:45:25,000
way. 
I would have been like, dude, 

899
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,200
that's fucked up, man. 
Like that's fucked up. 

900
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,640
He could have gotten me in real 
trouble there. 

901
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,520
You know, it may have been funny
to you, but not that funny, you 

902
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:33,880
know? 
And again, I would have 

903
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,960
presented in a way where he 
would have known where I was 

904
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,240
coming from. 
And then, you know, the onus 

905
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:41,080
would have been on him to, you 
know, I'm sure we would have had

906
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,600
a laugh over it. 
We would have been throwing 

907
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,880
fists. 
But, you know, if I was still 

908
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,360
there, I, I would have said 
something within bounds for 

909
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:49,680
sure. 
I would have, yeah. 

910
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,000
I guess here. 
Here's another from Robert 

911
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,240
Huerta. 
So yeah, this is kind of like 

912
00:45:55,240 --> 00:45:57,960
how he ended it, like when he 
was like, yeah, if I ever need 

913
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,800
you, like if I ever need a 
motivational speech, I'll hit 

914
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,160
you. 
So like, yeah, like Robert, here

915
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,360
he goes. 
Gio tried to take a shot about 

916
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,840
your speaking engagements. 
How the fuck is that something 

917
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,920
to knock with you, Gio? 
Yeah, to me, dude, like. 

918
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:16,400
This is a man making his living,
doing his thing, giving people, 

919
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:22,320
not only himself, his talents, 
his communication skills in both

920
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,160
the digital landscape, but 
bringing them to other people. 

921
00:46:25,240 --> 00:46:27,600
How can you knock that? 
This is a man just trying to, 

922
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,840
like you said, feed his family, 
pay his mortgage. 

923
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,160
What kind of shit is that? 
And that just takes it to 

924
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,400
another. 
Just weird. 

925
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,360
Again, high school personal 
level that has nothing to do 

926
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,520
with this is Jack shit shit. 
Well, I mean, you know, listen, 

927
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:44,800
I'm very proud of the motivation
speaking number one. 

928
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,360
I love it. 
And #2 I think I'm pretty good 

929
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,480
at it because I think I have a 
lot of, a lot of messages to, to

930
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,360
share, especially given what's 
happened the last four or five 

931
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,080
months. 
And you know, one of my, one of 

932
00:46:55,080 --> 00:47:00,360
my core messages is resiliency. 
You know, listen, Greg is, is a 

933
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:05,200
very successful, highly 
successful New York radio talk 

934
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,000
show host. 
And, and I'm not petty like I, 

935
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,680
I, I, I don't, I don't wish ill 
will toward him professionally 

936
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,080
and certainly not personally at 
all. 

937
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,840
But, you know, for Greg's sake, 
let's hope that he doesn't have 

938
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,640
to do this. 
You know, let's hope that he 

939
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,480
could do this another 1520 years
and keep banking that fat check 

940
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,120
that he's earned, that he's 
earned, OK, and not have to be 

941
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,440
at home and look into a camera 
and start over. 

942
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:34,800
Because to me that to me, that's
emblematic of being a man like 

943
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,760
that. 
I'd take immense pride in that. 

944
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:42,960
So to walk into a room like I 
did last week of 150 high level 

945
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:48,120
Verizon executives, OK and 
communicate to them and, and be 

946
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:52,600
asked to come and speak to them 
to help elevate them and, and, 

947
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,760
and like their mindset, that 
room is a room of winners. 

948
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,560
I mean massive winners for a 
massive company. 

949
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:02,360
They thought enough for me to go
there and it was awesome. 

950
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,760
And couple of weeks before that 
I was over at Cross Country 

951
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,200
Mortgage, which is the highest 
in terms of volume mortgage 

952
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,360
lending company in America. 
And there was about 100 high 

953
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,000
level mortgage executives in the
room. 

954
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,760
They asked me to go and speak to
them to motivate them to share, 

955
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,560
you know, preparation. 
How do you know resiliency, 

956
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,040
pivoting from when you think you
have something that's gone, What

957
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,320
do you do? 
Where do you dig? 

958
00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:31,760
So, yeah, I mean, if people want
to take shots at that, that's 

959
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,360
now we're getting a little 
different now we're getting a 

960
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,680
little different level of 
personal and and that's, that's,

961
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,640
that's going to set me off in a 
different way. 

962
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,360
So I'm going to ignore that 
part. 

963
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,120
I'm going to ignore that part 
now. 

964
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,080
I'm going to ignore that. 
I'm going to, I'm going to 

965
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,000
choose to ignore that part now. 
And I'm just going to say that 

966
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,720
I've got great pride in that and
I love it and it's awesome and 

967
00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:53,280
it's great. 
It's a great opportunity. 

968
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,000
So I mean, if people want to 
shit on that, man, that that's, 

969
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,120
that's pretty low to go reaching
for that. 

970
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,880
Yeah, I know. 
So Sam and I put together a show

971
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,240
with with Carl, right? 
I know. 

972
00:49:03,240 --> 00:49:05,040
So I think he took a dump on 
that as well. 

973
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,920
It's it's called providing for 
your family. 

974
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,640
Like you do not get that. 
I know you, I know you're in 

975
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,400
your your bubble. 
I get that your successful 

976
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,040
bubble. 
And I hope that you don't have 

977
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,760
to do this. 
Some people don't have that 

978
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,840
opportunity like they they 
aren't afforded that, that, that

979
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,480
that comfort right now. 
And again, you've earned it. 

980
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:23,960
I'm not taking anything away 
from you with that, Greg. 

981
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,840
I'm not. 
But yeah, that other stuff. 

982
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:30,040
I just it just that that's 
that's the stuff that I don't do

983
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,160
that and I've never done that. 
So you know that here we are. 

984
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,320
And I'm already tired of talking
about this and I'm going to move

985
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,320
on after a few more texts here. 
What does this one say? 

986
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,120
What do we got? 
He's all talk. 

987
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,200
His whole tone changed when 
Francesa called it and pressed 

988
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,000
him. 
Keep rocking, BT you have a 

989
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,240
whole community behind you. 
Listen, I feel the community, 

990
00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:48,320
right? 
I do. 

991
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:49,040
I do. 
Yeah. 

992
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,880
I mean, he didn't really say 
much to Mike that day, did he? 

993
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,640
He didn't say anything really. 
At least when Carl called up me 

994
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,480
and we fought back, at least we 
fought back and and defended our

995
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,320
show. 
I mean, Greg just kind of sat 

996
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,760
there, didn't do anything. 
Right. 

997
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,000
Yeah, yeah. 
I mean, so. 

998
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,360
That's a rhetorical question. 
We all know the answer. 

999
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:08,720
You don't. 
You don't even have to answer 

1000
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:12,600
that. 
But you know, it's, it was an 

1001
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,040
interesting morning. 
And listen, I'm 52 years old, 

1002
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:17,000
right? 
52. 

1003
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:23,920
And my first job was in 1999, my
first radio partner, Tommy, 

1004
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:28,080
Tommy Foundlin just literally 
texted me a week ago because he 

1005
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,880
does Lehigh basketball. 
And they finally got to the 

1006
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,120
first four and he texted me and 
he, he knows, you know what I do

1007
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,440
for Saint John's all these years
later, still friends, all right?

1008
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,520
Guys that I worked with in Las 
Vegas and lived with in Vegas 

1009
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,960
and worked with in Vegas to the 
we're at my wedding to this day,

1010
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,240
still friends. 
You know, I'm talking about guys

1011
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:49,440
like Kay and La Greca and 
Stephen, A guys I worked with at

1012
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:54,320
10:50 friends, you know, so I, 
it's, it's just, you know, I 

1013
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,960
think a lot of it's unfounded. 
If that's if that's it. 

1014
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,200
Now listen, he's also more 
deeply entrenched there. 

1015
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,600
If you, I'm not going to be so 
naive to like, if, if we were 

1016
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,320
all working there, if I was 
still there and you walked 

1017
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,680
around, you said, you know who's
I don't know who's a better 

1018
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:08,920
team, However you want to frame 
it. 

1019
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,680
I mean, Gio's known these people
for 20 years when he was an 

1020
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:12,480
intern. 
I don't know. 

1021
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,760
I think he intern certainly was 
a producer, worked his way up, 

1022
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,800
respected. 
I always respected his grind. 

1023
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,880
Man went to Pittsburgh. 
I always have always have, but 

1024
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,600
you know to to to not respect my
grind. 

1025
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,640
That's on you. 
That's that's that's you. 

1026
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:27,840
That's definitely not a me 
thing. 

1027
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:28,440
You know what? 
I. 

1028
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:33,280
Mean yeah, and and also just on 
that last comment before we get 

1029
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,920
to this one, I think that's the 
my main take away is just that 

1030
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,080
last sentence. 
You have a whole community 

1031
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,040
behind you and that's, you know,
that's really how this feels is 

1032
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,960
listen, they can say whatever 
the fuck they want on the radio 

1033
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,320
or whatever, like right here, 
right here in this YouTube. 

1034
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,600
We're actually building a 
community community catered 

1035
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:58,200
around, yes, catered around true
sports talk and also genuine 

1036
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,480
honesty, good being good people.
I think that's, I think that's a

1037
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,640
big mantra of what we've been 
building here is like an honest 

1038
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,680
approach to speaking and an 
honest approach to communication

1039
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,960
and being a good person. 
I meant something you espouse as

1040
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:18,400
well along with the sports talk.
So that's something to to look 

1041
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,600
at like a moment like this where
you've got a guy who's on radio,

1042
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,680
on professional radio acting 
less professional than a than a 

1043
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,520
guy who's at the crib on 
YouTube, building a true 

1044
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:34,640
community based on being a good 
person and loving sports. 

1045
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,240
That's my main take away. 
Yeah, I, I appreciate that. 

1046
00:52:37,240 --> 00:52:38,520
That's certainly what we're 
doing here. 

1047
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,360
I mean, listen, after a crazy 
jet loss, you're going to get on

1048
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,520
Hinge BT you're going to get on 
leash beat, that's it. 

1049
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,640
Like that's, those things are 
never going to change. 

1050
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:51,800
But you know, I, I've got a 
very, for me, I've got a very 

1051
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,640
clear mission with this show and
#1 it's obviously to be able to 

1052
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,960
provide, but it's also for me, 
it's a next level thing where, 

1053
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,320
you know, and, and, and I've 
always talked about like not not

1054
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,440
shoving politics down people's 
throats. 

1055
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,240
I don't do that. 
But, but I do believe that we're

1056
00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:13,080
at a very, we're a very bad spot
as as a country, as a world. 

1057
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,000
A lot of lot of reasons that I'm
that we all know, just watch the

1058
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,840
news for a second. 
And to me, like, all right, I 

1059
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,360
don't think I'm on the 15th hole
of my career, you know, but I've

1060
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,280
made the turn. 
I'm not on the 3rd hole. 

1061
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,800
I mean, I'm smart enough to know
that I made the turn. 

1062
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,960
You know, I bet, I think I'm, I 
think for me, I'm on the Earl. 

1063
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,160
I'm in the early stages of the 
back nine. 

1064
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,080
You know, I teed off, probably 
didn't get a par, that's for 

1065
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,280
sure. 
Probably, you know, probably 

1066
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,120
going to the 12 hole, I got a 
snowman and a bogey and all this

1067
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,720
on the card, but I got a lot of 
holes to play still not as many 

1068
00:53:45,720 --> 00:53:48,680
as I've played already just 
based on my age, but I've got a 

1069
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,880
platform to try to do something 
good and, and, and, and that 

1070
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,440
that's what this is about 
really. 

1071
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,800
It's about sports, of course, 
and let it RIP and taking pride 

1072
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,520
and, and, and knowing a lot and 
caring a lot and being able to 

1073
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,360
communicate to you in a very 
different what I think is a 

1074
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,680
unique way, you know, that that 
I take pride in that. 

1075
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:10,240
But the, you know, the other 
stuff, I've been in this 

1076
00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:14,120
business since 99 and, and I 
really don't think that I've had

1077
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,120
one single radio beef. 
I, I, I really, I really don't. 

1078
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,120
And I'm not about to start now. 
I got no interest in it. 

1079
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,280
I've got no energy for it. 
I won't run from it. 

1080
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,880
This I won't run from this I 
won't run from because this got 

1081
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,800
personal. 
But I'm moving on. 

1082
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,040
Like I've said what I've said, 
I've also said good things about

1083
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,120
Greg here today. 
You know, he's talented, he's 

1084
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,040
earned it. 
He's successful, he's funny, but

1085
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,760
you know that, that, that, that 
thing you, you know, you, you 

1086
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,040
can do, you can do a lot of 
things, right? 

1087
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,680
I'm not even talking about him. 
You can do a lot of things, 

1088
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,640
right? 
My, my mom told me this. 

1089
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,720
She said, you know, as a parent,
you can do so many things well, 

1090
00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:52,280
right? 
And like the one time that you 

1091
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,960
overreact as a parent 
unnecessarily is kind of the one

1092
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,240
thing that they remember, you 
know what I mean? 

1093
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:03,600
So, so that's why I wanted to be
transparent and not just come 

1094
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,440
out with some hit piece on Greg,
because I'm not a hit piece guy.

1095
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,520
And that's why I made sure that 
I said, yes, you did have our 

1096
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,280
bank with our back with Carl 
and, and some other and Gary 

1097
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:14,480
Myers. 
And there's something else. 

1098
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,320
I forget what it was, but you 
did and you, you did have our 

1099
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,680
back more than anybody else 
really at the station. 

1100
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:25,360
And, and I, I, we appreciated 
that we did, but you know, you 

1101
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,520
also did something that could 
have got me fired. 

1102
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,480
And you also didn't even say 
good luck when I got fired. 

1103
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,720
So and to me, that kind of 
usurps the other stuff, but 

1104
00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:36,480
that's it Ready, you know what I
mean? 

1105
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,240
That's it. 
I'm tapped out with this now. 

1106
00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:41,400
Jay tapping out. 
You know, I'm going to end the 

1107
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,560
match here. 
So I'm sure he'll keep talking 

1108
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,320
about it and that's fine. 
You know, I don't think. 

1109
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,880
Did Boomer chime in? 
No, you know, I got no problem. 

1110
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,560
With I got no problem with prank
until I found out about the 

1111
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:55,720
prank. 
As a meezy BX5O43, I think 

1112
00:55:55,720 --> 00:55:59,520
Boomer was just kind of 
menacingly sitting there just 

1113
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,520
like smirking wow like a little 
gremlin. 

1114
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,560
Yeah, what a big gremlin it was.
That's part, but that's part of 

1115
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,720
the dynamics of a morning show, 
you know what I mean? 

1116
00:56:07,720 --> 00:56:11,800
Like again, there were there 
were four guys on the show and, 

1117
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,480
and Eddie Skuzaria was the one 
who came and gave me a hug and 

1118
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:15,480
I, you know, I didn't forget 
that. 

1119
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,200
So shout out to Eddie and and 
listen shout. 

1120
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,200
Out to Tom. 
Always shout out to Eddie. 

1121
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:21,120
Love Eddie. 
Yeah. 

1122
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,120
Yeah, no doubt he's going to 
have a great retirement. 

1123
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,440
He's probably going to be 
wandering the wilderness, 

1124
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:29,120
tripping on mushrooms, you know,
having a good time. 

1125
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,000
Man. 
Oh, man. 

1126
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,360
Oh, man. 
All right, guys. 

1127
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,640
So aside from the fact that I 
didn't think I was going to get 

1128
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,320
pulled into whatever the hell 
this was this morning on the 

1129
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:43,040
morning show, I also didn't 
really think for most of my to 

1130
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,120
the last decade that I would 
ever see St. 

1131
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:49,400
John's do this ever. 
I, I, I, there was, I can't tell

1132
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:56,440
you, man, how many times I 
walked out of that arena of 

1133
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,200
beaten man. 
I'm like, it's over. 

1134
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,600
It's over it. 
There's no going back. 

1135
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,920
All we have is memories. 
Like I was telling the story. 

1136
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,920
I went live from the hotel room 
yesterday after the win. 

1137
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,480
I was telling the story How I 
Met my wife in 2008 and like, 

1138
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,640
oh, you know, of course I talk 
about the Yankees and The Jets. 

1139
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,840
She's a Yankee fan and she knows
my fan, my teams and she knows 

1140
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,200
when I met her. 
I'm doing Saint John's right. 

1141
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:20,840
She's like, man, you love Saint 
John's. 

1142
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,880
I'm like, you don't understand 
because she's from Dallas. 

1143
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,240
You don't understand. 
When I was growing up, it was 

1144
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,600
we, every one of us had a 
starter St. 

1145
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,480
John's jacket, unless of course,
you had a Hoyas 1 and it would 

1146
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,080
Georgetown Hoyas and St. 
John's. 

1147
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,480
We hated each other is what it 
is right now. 

1148
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,600
We're kind of apathetic toward 
the Hoyas because they're 

1149
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,520
they're where we were for so 
many years. 

1150
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,280
I'd like to see him battle back.
But the point is, is that when I

1151
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:50,080
was at my most impressionable 
age, 10/11/12, like right where 

1152
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:53,680
my son is now, right. 
Saint John's was bigger than the

1153
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,400
Knicks. 
You had to live it. 

1154
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,800
No, But if you didn't live it, 
you don't understand it. 

1155
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,400
And then, you know, I would tell
her about this like wax poetic. 

1156
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,560
Oh, Chris Mullen, the final 
four. 

1157
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,840
Louis, this one's for you. 
Louis, we ain't done. 

1158
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,040
We're taking down Duke, too. 
We ain't done. 

1159
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:09,760
Saint John's going to push Duke 
around. 

1160
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,360
They're going to get in their 
chest. 

1161
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,120
We'll do more preview like later
in the week here. 

1162
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,760
But the big grown man strength 
in the front court for St. 

1163
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,800
John's, I think it's a pretty 
good match up. 

1164
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,760
Like don't tell me that St. 
John's can't be Duke. 

1165
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,080
I actually think that they will.
But we'll do that more. 

1166
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:29,400
So all these years. 
Excuse me where you know, I'm 

1167
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,560
propping up St. 
John's and she's like, my God, 

1168
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,040
they stink like nobody's at the 
game. 

1169
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,320
St. 
John's like it was a complete 

1170
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,920
nothing to her. 
And I get it because she born 

1171
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,920
and raised in Dallas, TX, you 
know, and I would walk out of 

1172
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,960
the arena and I would just be 
despondent, just beaten down. 

1173
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:51,440
Like one of the things that I 
know hyperbole like this, the, 

1174
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,440
the St. 
Saint John's where they were at 

1175
00:58:55,440 --> 00:59:00,120
that pivotal point in my sports 
fandom and my brain developing 

1176
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,400
and wanting to 1st replaced 
automatically be a first baseman

1177
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,120
for the Yankees, which of 
course, it never came close to 

1178
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:06,840
doing. 
But then eventually want to be a

1179
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,440
sports host. 
Like Saint John's is so much of 

1180
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,480
the oxygen and and the wind 
behind my sails that that gave 

1181
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:21,680
me this passion, right? 
And the, the, the, the fall was 

1182
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:25,920
just it, it was swift and it 
seemed fatal. 

1183
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,480
It seemed final, like there's 
just no more coming back from 

1184
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,720
this because the game had 
changed. 

1185
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,720
And, you know, the the teams 
left the conference and they 

1186
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,960
didn't have the football money 
and they hadn't evolved 

1187
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,320
monetarily. 
They didn't look at football. 

1188
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,360
They don't look at basketball as
a vehicle to make money. 

1189
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:44,800
This is the older 
administrations. 

1190
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,720
They were hanging on to the good
old days. 

1191
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:50,440
And it was just exhausting and 
it was tiring and it was sad. 

1192
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,960
OK. 
And you know, I remember my 

1193
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,720
first year was the year that 
Mike Jarvis got fired and that 

1194
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,080
was my first year ever doing St.
John's. 

1195
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,720
It was after they so they won 
the NIT in O3 and I was at the 

1196
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,240
game. 
I've just been I just been hired

1197
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:09,400
at at 10:50 ESPN Radio from 
Detroit and St. 

1198
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:13,400
John's won the NIT March, 
whatever it was, something like 

1199
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:17,440
that. 
And I was just hired and 10:50 

1200
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,600
fifty was the rights holder to 
Saint to St. 

1201
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,640
John's basketball. 
And I remember, I don't really 

1202
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,240
know anybody at the station yet,
but they're like. 

1203
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:29,600
How do I came up around the 
office. 

1204
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:30,640
You have a huge Saint John's 
fan. 

1205
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:31,440
They're like, oh, you want to 
go? 

1206
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:32,960
You want to go to the game? 
I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1207
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,280
So I went with like 3 of my boys
that I grew up with and we go to

1208
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,160
the game and they win the end. 
They beat Georgetown, the NIT, 

1209
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:44,120
and I remember I'm on the floor.
Not that like the 20,000 people 

1210
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:45,800
stormed the court. 
It was only like 10,000 people 

1211
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:47,280
there. 
But I remember being on the 

1212
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,400
court. 
I've called my dad and I'm like,

1213
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:50,640
pretend that I'm shooting a foul
shot. 

1214
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,680
I'm like that's I'm like, I'm on
the garden floor. 

1215
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,880
Johnny's won the NIT, right? 
And then right after that, I get

1216
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,080
the gig the next year. 
And I'll never forget my first 

1217
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:04,960
game was the Coaches versus 
Cancer Classic against 

1218
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,560
Marquette. 
And it was at the Garden. 

1219
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,840
I'm in the Marty Glickman 
Memorial radio booth and I'm 

1220
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:12,760
sitting there and I'm I'm 
calling a St. 

1221
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,960
John's game. 
And it was like, wow, I'm at the

1222
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,320
Garden and I'm actually calling 
a St. 

1223
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,760
John's game. 
And you know, I was one of those

1224
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,680
guys, quite frankly, I was 
probably one of those guys who 

1225
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,600
talked about St. 
John's on the air too much 

1226
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,320
because they didn't really merit
and they didn't warrant that 

1227
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,200
kind of exposure most of the 
years. 

1228
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,920
Like going back to 10:50, I 
didn't really talk about it much

1229
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,760
on the fan with Tiki. 
But then Rick came, obviously 

1230
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,840
and, and me and Sal, we'd have 
Rick on whatever. 

1231
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,400
I am so happy for the 
university. 

1232
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,360
I am so happy for the old guard,
you know, and I've said, man, 

1233
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,720
they travelled out there. 
There was a good contingent of 

1234
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,120
St. 
John's fans in San Diego. 

1235
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:53,720
I mean, it was it was a good sea
of red behind the bench, behind 

1236
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:57,120
the broadcast area. 
They were going freaking bananas

1237
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,440
when Dylan Darling hit that 
shot. 

1238
01:01:59,960 --> 01:02:02,960
I mean, first of all, he was 
over his last 15 shooting 

1239
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:06,520
threes. 
Now I'm pretty confident, but 

1240
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,400
I'm not that confident. 
Like if I'm over, let's let's 

1241
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:14,640
keep it real if I'm over 15 or 
more specifically if I'm like, 

1242
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,800
oh, from my last nine in 
baseball and I got like 5 

1243
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:21,680
strikeouts and A and a roll over
to second base and a pop up foul

1244
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,160
out to the catcher. 
You know, putting myself in my 

1245
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,440
playing days, I can lie and say,
yeah, I want to be up there 

1246
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,040
about with the bases loaded down
too. 

1247
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,120
I don't know how confident I 
would have been in that 

1248
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,600
situation. 
Dylan Darling, the way the story

1249
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:38,320
went, because they kept fouling,
fouling, fouling, fouling and 

1250
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,680
they had like 3.9 to go. 
So when they inbound the ball, 

1251
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,400
you would have had passed you, 
you would have had time for one 

1252
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,840
pass in a shot. 
But when they go to the huddle, 

1253
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,880
it wasn't even Pitino who said, 
hey, we're gonna run this play 

1254
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:52,240
for Darling. 
It was Darling who said run this

1255
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:56,040
play for me, talk about the 
stones on this kid. 

1256
01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:00,440
And then he's a lefty to finish 
with his right hand in traffic. 

1257
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,600
Wow. 
And then when they jumped on 

1258
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,680
him, there's a picture of I 
think that the photographer 

1259
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:11,200
buried beneath a mass of 
euphoria and excitement. 

1260
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:18,760
And it was just wild, man. 
It like, I mean, this is going 

1261
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:20,600
to sound incredibly corny, but 
it's the truth. 

1262
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,280
I mean, I, I dreamed the stuff 
like this. 

1263
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,760
I just dreamt of it. 
I'm like, you know, when am I 

1264
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,760
going to get a little taste of, 
of March Madness, my goodness 

1265
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,000
gracious. 
And the first game. 

1266
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,920
So again, the first year I did 
it was O3. 

1267
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:36,480
And in 2015 they made it barely.
I was with Lavin and I remember 

1268
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:42,960
we were watching the selection 
show in the basement and they 

1269
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,840
were, they barely got. 
No, wait, hold on. 

1270
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,640
Yeah, they barely got in and 
they lost to San Diego State. 

1271
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:49,680
Whatever. 
We went to Charlotte. 

1272
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:51,760
But I was like, man, I finally 
got to call the game. 

1273
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:53,800
Awesome. 
Like, check. 

1274
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,480
And then, you know, went went 
sideways. 

1275
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,320
And then it didn't really work 
with with Mullen. 

1276
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,800
But then Mullen got to the first
four and I got smacked by Bobby 

1277
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,800
Hurley's Arizona State, Arizona 
State team. 

1278
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,640
All right, hey, at least I got 
to go to a building that I watch

1279
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,320
on TV date and historic old 
building. 

1280
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:10,920
You know, I appreciate the 
history. 

1281
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:12,480
Check. 
They lost, but check. 

1282
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,080
And then Mike Anderson, there 
was like a little flicker of 

1283
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,320
hope, like some good players, 
but just never got over the then

1284
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,320
COVID when they were beating 
Creighton at the end and the Big

1285
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:22,800
East tournament, they were 
beating him at the half. 

1286
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,200
Who knows? 
Maybe that would have been the 

1287
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:24,640
year. 
I don't know. 

1288
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:31,840
But what see and, and, and I, I,
I didn't want to say it because 

1289
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,360
I didn't want to really. 
Not that I was afraid to say it.

1290
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:38,240
I just I didn't want to jinx 
anything because I thought it 

1291
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,240
would have been misinterpreted. 
Not by the school. 

1292
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,000
The school has never once said, 
don't say. 

1293
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:43,800
The school just gives me the 
latitude. 

1294
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:47,320
One of the reasons I love Saint 
John's is they they let me be me

1295
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,400
during the down times. 
I mean, I would absolutely crush

1296
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,840
them on the air, crush them. 
And they never once said, hey, 

1297
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,200
we've probably pulled this back.
They always let me be honest 

1298
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,120
because they knew. 
But you don't think I was 

1299
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,080
thinking going out to San Diego,
I'm like, you got to get to the 

1300
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:03,440
Sweet 16. 
Not for me. 

1301
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,920
You've got to get to the Sweet 
16 at least to validate the 

1302
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,640
coverage, the energy, the juice,
the excitement. 

1303
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,840
You have to do it. 
Because if they would have lost 

1304
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:18,360
to Kansas yesterday, even though
we all know what they've done 

1305
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,720
and they've they've never done 
this back-to-back regular season

1306
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:25,240
championships, back-to-back Big 
East tournament championships. 

1307
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:29,360
31 wins last year, I mean, but 
30 again this year. 

1308
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:33,320
Pitino coach of the year last 
year nationally, Zubi player of 

1309
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,240
the year, defensive player of 
the year, scholar athlete of the

1310
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,080
year. 
There's only been two players in

1311
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:43,000
the history of the Big East 
since 79, going back to the the 

1312
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,040
inception till now, that have 
been the player of the year, the

1313
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,280
DPO Y and the Scholar. 
And that was a Mecca Okafor in 

1314
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,600
O4 with UConn and that was Zubi 
this year. 

1315
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,320
And all those things are amazing
and I've lived them because I've

1316
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,680
called a lot of the games and 
I've done the TV show every week

1317
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:02,360
with Rick every every, every 
three years, the Red Storm 

1318
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:03,680
report. 
And it's it's an honor. 

1319
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,080
I mean, it's, it's an education.
I mean, the way Rick treats me 

1320
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,160
is phenomenal. 
Like the the stories about the 

1321
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,360
Knicks before we start shooting,
Bernard King because he was 

1322
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,960
coached with Hubie Brown. 
Like I'm in heaven, I'm in 

1323
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,360
basketball heaven. 
But I know how the story goes 

1324
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,880
and I I know how the story goes 
in New York with St. 

1325
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,360
John's. 
Like there was a point in the 

1326
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,880
80s where they were bigger than 
the Knicks before Ewing got 

1327
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,120
drafted and went to the Knicks 
because the Knicks were awful 

1328
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,120
after Menard King ripped up his 
knee. 

1329
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:33,640
They were like 10, eleven, 
12,000 people at these games, 

1330
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,360
right? 
But you're really, yeah, you 

1331
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:42,480
have to when if unless you're a 
die hard Saint Johns fan, the 

1332
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,240
skepticism would have been well,
and I and I would have 

1333
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:49,080
understood this to an extent, 
you know, Hey, listen, great 

1334
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:50,920
story. 
But I mean, come on, you won one

1335
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,560
game and you got bounced. 
You didn't even get to the Sweet

1336
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:54,080
16. 
So I wanted it. 

1337
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,880
Yes. 
I'm pumped to go to DC. 

1338
01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:00,280
And there's going to be a throng
of red and white fans now. 

1339
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,240
I mean, if they made it out to 
San Diego, there's going to be 

1340
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:06,240
thousands of fans, St. 
John's fans in in in Washington,

1341
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:07,720
DC. 
It's going to be absolutely 

1342
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,280
awesome. 
So, so I personally, it's going 

1343
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,640
to be a highlight. 
Never done a Sweet 16. 

1344
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,040
Like I'm honored, I'm blessed, 
I'm truly thankful. 

1345
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,640
It's great. 
My whole family, they're all St.

1346
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,920
John's fans. 
Like it's just, it just, it 

1347
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:24,200
makes my heart happy. 
It really does, but I'm really 

1348
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:27,560
just happy for the university 
cuz there's so many good people 

1349
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:31,520
there, like people like Melissa 
in the ticket office and Eddie 

1350
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:37,200
Cole, who's the AD now, who 
started out as you know, I don't

1351
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:41,400
know if it was an intern, but 
like my first year in O3 O 4 was

1352
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:43,840
his first year at St. 
John's and he went on to become 

1353
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:45,480
the AD at Fordham. 
Came back home. 

1354
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,560
Mike, I met Mike Ropoli over the
weekend. 

1355
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,520
Like I gave him a high five. 
I think maybe the Biggies 

1356
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,040
tournament, but I actually got 
to talk to him. 

1357
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:56,160
We were having breakfast in the 
in the hotel on I guess 2 days 

1358
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,400
ago and Mike was there with Ed 
and and a bunch of boosters and 

1359
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,680
we got to know each other a 
little bit out of his mind. 

1360
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:02,800
I mean, talk about energy. 
Wow. 

1361
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:04,960
I mean, it's tough to get a word
with Mike. 

1362
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:09,400
Awesome dude. 
I'm so happy for for a Catholic 

1363
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:13,520
school that lost its way in the 
big business of college 

1364
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:17,800
basketball was an afterthought 
and was left for dead to be 

1365
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:22,120
resuscitated to this extent. 
It's just awesome for the city. 

1366
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:27,479
And, you know, if they would 
have lost yesterday, the air out

1367
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,319
of the balloon would have been 
palpable and it would have been 

1368
01:08:30,319 --> 01:08:33,760
very hard for me to fend it off 
like it would have been, you 

1369
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,720
know, would have been tough to, 
you know, hey, but we did this, 

1370
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,399
we did that, we did this, but 
Rick did this and we won 31 

1371
01:08:38,399 --> 01:08:41,560
games and zoo be this and you 
know, the Big East championship 

1372
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,479
and banner, but you didn't even 
get to the Sweet 16. 

1373
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,120
So it is on. 
Who knows where this story is 

1374
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:48,479
going? 
I don't know where it's going to

1375
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:50,240
go. 
I don't know where it's going to

1376
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,000
go. 
I mean, could it go all the way 

1377
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,439
to Indianapolis? 
Why not? 

1378
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:57,000
You know, the thing about Saint 
John's, I was saying this to 

1379
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,800
Mink. 
Was it during the pregame show? 

1380
01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:05,880
I think it was. 
I think it was. 

1381
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:09,880
And by the way, don't think for 
a second I was not possessed to 

1382
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:14,160
make sure that I laid out and 
gave Mink as, as every color 

1383
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,359
commentator should. 
But they they don't, you know, I

1384
01:09:17,359 --> 01:09:21,120
wanted to Mink, this is you. 
You are the voice of Saint 

1385
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,840
John's. 
You are the sage voice that's 

1386
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:25,760
been doing the play by play 
forever. 

1387
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,399
You're an industry legend and a 
just a hell of a good spirited 

1388
01:09:29,399 --> 01:09:32,760
person and a great human being 
is your call, brother. 

1389
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,840
But don't think for a second I 
was like, come on, hurry up man,

1390
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:37,120
let's go. 
I want to jump in here. 

1391
01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:40,080
He's going on and Saint John's. 
And I'm like, I even gave it the

1392
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,920
extra beat to make sure he was 
done because the last thing I 

1393
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:46,040
was going to do was step on that
man's call because you hear it 

1394
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,080
all the time. 
You hear it all like here in the

1395
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,240
NFL, like if you listen to these
national calls, you know, I 

1396
01:09:51,279 --> 01:09:53,640
don't know why. 
I know the Bengals team does 

1397
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,320
this quite a bit. 
You know, here's Joe Burrow back

1398
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,720
to pass, you know, so and so 
wide open down there. 

1399
01:09:57,960 --> 01:09:59,720
Oh, touchdown. 
Oh, he's got him. 

1400
01:09:59,920 --> 01:10:03,160
Like you got the color guy just 
jumping on the play by dude, 

1401
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:07,120
Shut up, know your role, be 
quiet, let the play by play man 

1402
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,360
do his job. 
So I think Mink nailed it. 

1403
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,680
But I I couldn't wait for him to
finish so I could jump in a 

1404
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:13,640
little bit. 
My own little piece of history. 

1405
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:17,520
That's a forever moment for me. 
But I did say that to Mink 

1406
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,720
during the pregame show. 
I said, and I think you guys 

1407
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,440
will appreciate this. 
As golfers, most of us are bad. 

1408
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:27,040
Every one of us. 
And I don't mean if you were 3 

1409
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:32,040
or 4 handicapped, right? 
Every one of us has a shot or a 

1410
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:37,480
club that we just try to avoid. 
Just now, unfortunately I have 

1411
01:10:37,480 --> 01:10:40,200
more than one. 
But you know, for a while it was

1412
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:43,400
like the mid irons where you 
know, it was before I hurt my 

1413
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,880
back. 
I would swing like a lunatic and

1414
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:50,560
when I'd catch it, I'd smash one
off the tee, say like a par 5 

1415
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:54,560
and then say if I have like 230 
in or, or or 220 instead of hit 

1416
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,960
like 4 iron. 
Like I just I, I just couldn't 

1417
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:00,360
hit it well. 
So I would hit the wrong club or

1418
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:05,320
like even if I was like 170 out 
and it was too, too much for a 

1419
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,720
hybrid, I would hit a hybrid and
try to hit it soft because I 

1420
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:09,800
thought I could hit the hybrid 
better because I would always 

1421
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,080
kind of clip the irons and not 
pure it anyway. 

1422
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,640
There's shots in your bag and 
clubs that you just don't want 

1423
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,080
to touch. 
Whether it's a flop shot, you 

1424
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:21,040
know if you're short sided, you 
got to get it up quick and get 

1425
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:22,920
it over a bunker and you're 
short sided, you got to get some

1426
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,040
heightened let's stick fast or 
whatever. 

1427
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:26,720
Whatever shot it might be, bump 
and run. 

1428
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,320
You might not like or some 
people hate drivers. 

1429
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,680
They go 3 woods or hybrids or 
irons off the tee. 

1430
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,600
What I would say to Mink that 
that that. 

1431
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:37,360
By the way, Jared, this is a 
short story made long by 

1432
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:38,040
faculty. 
Yeah. 

1433
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,480
There we go. 
Instead of a Long story short, I

1434
01:11:41,480 --> 01:11:44,200
I am the I am a Wizard of making
a short story long. 

1435
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:47,080
Anyway, I think there's usually 
pay off at the end. 

1436
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:48,360
Then I think you'll like to pay 
off fears. 

1437
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:49,600
There we go. 
A little verbose. 

1438
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,480
What do you want? 
And I'm also like half asleep 

1439
01:11:52,480 --> 01:11:55,240
and also in an interesting mood 
from what I woke up to today. 

1440
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,240
Yeah, you. 
Might be going through it right 

1441
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,160
now. 
I'm, I'm good. 

1442
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,360
I'm good. 
So I'm a little tired, but I'm 

1443
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,160
definitely good. 
So when I said to Mink, I said, 

1444
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,400
you know, St. 
John's has a couple of clubs in 

1445
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:10,880
their bag that if you touch 
them, you don't know how they're

1446
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:13,000
going to respond. 
And I was really talking about 

1447
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,680
Ian Jackson and Satin, to a 
lesser extent. 

1448
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:17,560
Satin, who's been playing better
than Ian Jackson. 

1449
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,000
Now, what I meant by that was as
good as the front court is 

1450
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,320
Zoby's an animal. 
Bryce Hopkins the last two 

1451
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,400
months has been on an absolute 
Bender. 

1452
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,920
He's been playing great, 
phenomenal. 

1453
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:29,960
And and Rick called him out a 
little bit. 

1454
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,520
I just a little Side Story. 
I remember interviewing Rick for

1455
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,560
the for the TV show and you 
know, I was feeding into it like

1456
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,200
Bryce was playing OK, but not 
great. 

1457
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:40,920
And I said, and this was live on
the air and I see, you know, I 

1458
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:42,680
see, you know, Bryce still 
still, you know, learning to 

1459
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,000
trust his knee because many of 
you know, he had ripped up his 

1460
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:46,240
knee in Providence. 
Yeah. 

1461
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:47,840
Still trying to learn to trust 
his body. 

1462
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,360
And Rick's like, no nonsense. 
Like, got a little agitated. 

1463
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,120
He's like, he's past that. 
He's fine. 

1464
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:53,600
He's like, he's got to learn. 
He's got to jump. 

1465
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:55,600
He's got to jump higher. 
It's exactly what he's saying. 

1466
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:57,440
He got to jump higher. 
He's got to move quicker. 

1467
01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,000
Like, he's fine. 
He's healthy, all right. 

1468
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,240
He's got enough time. 
I'm like, OK, you would know I 

1469
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:04,000
got you. 
So since then, I'm not saying my

1470
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,360
question was the impetus to the 
rise of Bryce Hopkins, but 

1471
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,160
surely I'm sure Rick was in his 
ass every day in practice. 

1472
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:10,840
Bryce Hopkins started playing 
great. 

1473
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,520
And then Dylan Mitchell was 
inserted into the starting five.

1474
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:18,680
And really the front court for 
Saint John's is as good of it's 

1475
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,000
as good. 
It's not, I don't know, another 

1476
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,600
one that's better in the entire 
country because they're 

1477
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:25,480
athletic. 
They can defend everybody. 

1478
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:28,080
You know, Bryce can shoot a 
little bit, Dylan can handle. 

1479
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,560
Zubie's a monster. 
They rebound, they block shots, 

1480
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,880
they finish on the break. 
They're all Zubie's a very good 

1481
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,320
interior passer. 
Bryce can create with his 

1482
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:37,800
dribble a little bit more than 
Zubie. 

1483
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:39,920
Like, it's just they're wildly 
talented. 

1484
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,920
But the back court and then 
Darling's ascension kind of 

1485
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,600
mitigated the inconsistencies 
from Ian Jackson. 

1486
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,280
So anyway, now we finish up the 
short story long. 

1487
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,120
My point was that like Ian 
Jackson was like the club that 

1488
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:53,960
you don't want to really touch. 
But if you want to break 100 for

1489
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,640
the first time or if you want to
break 90 or whatever that 

1490
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,200
benchmark that you want to 
break, you want to break 80 or 

1491
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,680
you want to get in the set, you 
know, 75, whatever, wherever you

1492
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,720
are relative to your game, 
eventually you're going to have 

1493
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:08,120
to stare that beast and say, all
right, damn, the flop shot shit,

1494
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:12,240
man, I'm pinched in and you got 
to just trust it and you can't 

1495
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:14,280
be jerky. 
You got to just open up that 

1496
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,320
club face. 
You got to get some some grass 

1497
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:19,000
or whatever he got pop that 
puppy up and you got to let it 

1498
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,800
sit on the green and he got to 
make the putt. 

1499
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:22,360
And if you do, you going to 
break the benchmark. 

1500
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:27,040
If you don't, you're not. 
So to me to see Ian Jackson now 

1501
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:30,840
start to have some moments and 
he scored against Northern Iowa 

1502
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:33,400
and and I didn't minimize it. 
I remember saying to make up 

1503
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:36,320
like filed it even though they 
routed Northern Iowa. 

1504
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:39,000
I'm like file this away is very 
interesting for the next game 

1505
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:42,720
where he had 9 points in 9 
minutes and like for his 

1506
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:45,800
confidence that Serge and he was
also the first man off the 

1507
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:46,520
bench. 
I believe you. 

1508
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,640
I believe he was the first 
player that Rick went to. 

1509
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:52,680
And after the game when they 
were leaving the court against 

1510
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:55,880
northern Zubi because they wrote
stories about the Zubi said to 

1511
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:57,960
him, pull, pull them aside. 
He said we're going to need you 

1512
01:14:57,960 --> 01:14:59,840
to win this thing. 
We're going to need you. 

1513
01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:04,040
So I look at him as the hybrid 
or the wedge or the whatever, 

1514
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:09,040
the putter that you don't like. 
If he plays well, Saint Johns 

1515
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,280
can win the championship. 
They really can, yeah. 

1516
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:16,040
I mean a great, a great 1010 
point performance yesterday to 

1517
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:20,160
follow up a 9.9 point game. 
Feel like, you know, showing 

1518
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:26,560
some consistencies out here. 
So let's go Ian Jackson, Big 

1519
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:31,040
Three from Prey yesterday too. 
Yes, that was one that was from 

1520
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:32,520
the corner. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1521
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,960
I remember that one. 
Yeah, you know what I something 

1522
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,720
else I remember saying the Mink 
too, I think 20, they're 23 

1523
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:45,360
shots to start. 
I think 15 were threes and 

1524
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:47,760
Hopkins hit one early. 
Now they're not a three-point 

1525
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,000
shooting team. 
They're right around 34.7%. 

1526
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,680
So they're slightly below 
average what Rick wants. 

1527
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:54,080
I understand Rick's point of 
view. 

1528
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:55,800
He's like, we got to get it in 
volume. 

1529
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,800
You're like, we're not going to 
take 11 and hit five, you know, 

1530
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,120
and, and be, you know, just just
over 50. 

1531
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,600
We're just under 50%. 
Like we're going to have to 

1532
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,400
shoot X amount. 
And if we can stick 8 or 9 with 

1533
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,440
our inside play and our defense,
that will be enough to get a 

1534
01:16:09,440 --> 01:16:11,080
separation from whomever we 
play. 

1535
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,480
So he's always imploring these 
guys shoot, shoot. 

1536
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,440
They shot like 4 air balls. 
Dylan Darling shot a couple air 

1537
01:16:16,440 --> 01:16:19,080
balls from three. 
Bright shot an air ball. 

1538
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:20,440
I think Zubi shot an air ball as
well. 

1539
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,480
And I was a little worried 
because, you know, each game is 

1540
01:16:23,480 --> 01:16:25,440
different. 
And don't forget, Kansas is 

1541
01:16:25,440 --> 01:16:27,720
trying to get make St. 
John's do things as well. 

1542
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:29,920
It's not just St. 
John's trying to make Kansas do 

1543
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:31,640
stuff. 
Kansas is trying to make St. 

1544
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:33,880
John's do things that they don't
do very well either. 

1545
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:36,200
So I'm like, all right, they've 
got the lead. 

1546
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:38,840
They look good. 
But man, 15 out of 20 threes 

1547
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:42,360
attempts or threes, that's 
that's that's untenable. 

1548
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:45,880
That is not sustainable in my 
opinion and and it worked out. 

1549
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:50,680
So they've got to be, you know, 
very cognizant of the ratio of 

1550
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:55,560
of now Kansas is also big inside
and that was going to have to be

1551
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:57,600
they were it was going to be a 
bit of a deterrent. 

1552
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,840
Like you can tell right away and
it's easier to see like when 

1553
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,280
you're on the court, the like 
the resistance that they were 

1554
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,800
like Zubi number one of his run.
It was a little tough for Zubi 

1555
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:10,280
to get to his spot in the post 
because he was getting pushed 

1556
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:12,280
off the post. 
And then you know, he's got 

1557
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:15,280
sublime footwork and up fakes 
and all that and he's strong. 

1558
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:19,240
But you know, he kept getting 
pushed out a little bit and a 

1559
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,600
lot of his shots were like 
double pumps and he didn't look 

1560
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:23,920
very comfortable. 
So I don't think it's going to 

1561
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:25,960
be that way against Duke. 
Now Duke is is going to try to 

1562
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:29,000
beat you different ways with a 
few pros, but just an amazing 

1563
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:30,800
win. 
It feels better to be It's not a

1564
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,960
vintage Kansas team, but to beat
Kansas? 

1565
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:36,360
A blue blood of college. 
Squad. 

1566
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,200
Yeah, it just looks good on the 
resume. 

1567
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:45,440
Oh, big times, Week 16. 
Yeah, I mean, just such a great 

1568
01:17:45,440 --> 01:17:47,120
win. 
I was saying I was with like my 

1569
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:51,440
friends in a restaurant and like
multiple guys are going, oh, 

1570
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:54,840
guys went nuts. 
Yeah. 

1571
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:59,160
Oh, my gosh, we went nuts. 
New York was certainly up last 

1572
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,120
night. 
Like, like in the moment that it

1573
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:04,280
occurred, like you could just 
see there's excitement on a on a

1574
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:06,800
bunch of people's faces all 
around. 

1575
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,960
So just a great way. 
And then I mean it, you know, 

1576
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:13,920
similarly to when the Knicks are
good, like I think this is like,

1577
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,200
Bree, what's the word? 
Breathe? 

1578
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:20,960
Given a breath, given a breath 
of life into the, into the, you 

1579
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,560
know, New York basketball. 
Yes, in a way gives you. 

1580
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:26,440
Gives you something to like, 
really look forward to every day

1581
01:18:26,440 --> 01:18:28,920
where? 
OK, me, I went to Syracuse. 

1582
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,840
Syracuse basketball is awful. 
Although shout out GMAC. 

1583
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:35,640
Yes, huge, absolutely huge. 
I'm going to be great. 

1584
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:39,400
I'm excited, hopefully return, 
hopefully return to form. 

1585
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,960
You know, he did awesome with 
Sienna. 

1586
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,480
But yeah, I mean, you know, 
there's nowhere else to look 

1587
01:18:44,480 --> 01:18:46,080
for. 
Obviously I've got, you know, 

1588
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:50,400
some biases tied into Saint 
John's now where I've got a root

1589
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,160
for him. 
But yeah, I mean it just like, 

1590
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:55,200
like feels like everyone I speak
to, you know, even if they went 

1591
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:58,160
to a different university, they 
want to see the Johnny succeed 

1592
01:18:58,160 --> 01:18:59,360
out here. 
So Yep, Yep. 

1593
01:18:59,440 --> 01:19:01,520
And listen. 
And how about this region too? 

1594
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:05,720
You got Rick Pitino, you got Tom
Izzo, you've got Dandy Hurley. 

1595
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:07,680
And why might? 
What was the 4th 1? 

1596
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:11,560
Hold on, Rick Hurley, Izzo? 
Why am I forgetting the 4th? 

1597
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:15,400
Who else is out there? 
I've got to remember in a 

1598
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:16,960
second. 
I mean, you got Titans. 

1599
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,520
I mean, a lot of ways it. 
Oh, Shire from Duke, What am I 

1600
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:21,320
saying? 
He's not quite, you know, 

1601
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:25,920
because he's younger, but I 
mean, absolute Titans of the 

1602
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:27,640
game. 
And it's funny because think 

1603
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:29,960
about how much college 
basketball, college football 

1604
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:31,280
too. 
But college sports has changed, 

1605
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:33,640
right? 
You know, the NIL and that's 

1606
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:34,960
obviously bolstered Saint 
John's. 

1607
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:36,680
There's no question. 
I mean, anybody who doesn't 

1608
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:38,720
admit that is just not being 
truthful. 

1609
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,800
One of the main reasons is 
that's like the main reason 

1610
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,680
Saint John's is here is because 
they're finally spending money 

1611
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,960
which enabled them to hide Rick,
which enable them to hire a 

1612
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,080
roster. 
And now you've got, I think the 

1613
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,760
greatest coach of all time 
coaching them and here we are. 

1614
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:57,560
But think about the the the 
older coaches that are coaching 

1615
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:01,280
in DC this weekend coming up, 
think about their ages. 

1616
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:05,400
Rick is in the 70s, Tom Izzo's 
in the 70s Danny Hurley's been. 

1617
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,520
You know, he's not in the 70s, 
but he's not in his 30s or 40s. 

1618
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:10,280
He's in his early 50s. 
Been doing it for a minute. 

1619
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:12,680
And, and Shire's on the younger 
side too. 

1620
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:16,760
But you know, the adaptability 
of of these coaches should not 

1621
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:20,640
be overlooked because they won 
one way back in the day when the

1622
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,400
college landscaping game was 
totally different. 

1623
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,160
And they're still winning at an 
incredibly high level. 

1624
01:20:26,480 --> 01:20:28,760
And it just shows you that. 
That's why I always look at 

1625
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,960
adaptability is one of the great
characteristics for any coach 

1626
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:35,320
and that's why I always know I 
this will be a short story 

1627
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:36,880
short. 
That's why I always reference 

1628
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:40,640
Pat Riley. 
Pat Riley Lakers try to win 140 

1629
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:44,320
to 97, fast break you out of the
gym with Magic Johnson, Worthy 

1630
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,480
and Byron Scott and Cooper and 
obviously cream in the post, but

1631
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:48,840
run you out of the gym. 
Bang. 

1632
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:51,360
That's how Pat Riley won there. 
Then he comes to the Knicks. 

1633
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:54,400
They've got nothing like that. 
They have a 33 year old point 

1634
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:57,080
guard in Derek Harper. 
They got Pat, you know who's 

1635
01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:59,800
amazing, but you know, plotting 
a little bit up and down the 

1636
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,520
court a little bit. 
And they got a bunch of guys who

1637
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:03,600
want to beat the shit out of 
you. 

1638
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:06,520
You know, he's like, OK, that's 
what we're going to win. 

1639
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:10,480
We're going to win 87 to 79. 
And then he went, when he went 

1640
01:21:10,480 --> 01:21:13,120
to the Heat, you know, he had a 
little bit more of a hybrid 

1641
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,880
where eventually, you know, with
Wade and those guys, they wound 

1642
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:18,640
up winning differently. 
And obviously as a president, 

1643
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:22,000
he's built out a a team that 
that's won and can score more 

1644
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,720
than those old Nick teams did. 
So he was adaptable to the 

1645
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:26,960
personnel, adaptable to the 
times. 

1646
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:30,840
And I saw something and nano 
man, some people are really just

1647
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,600
so soft. 
There was I can't believe that 

1648
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,440
this actually offends people. 
There was something. 

1649
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:40,200
Let me see. 
St. 

1650
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:44,280
John's was up 20 to 3 going to 
time out against Northern Iowa. 

1651
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:45,480
Did you see this clip? 
Jay, Rod. 

1652
01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:49,880
No. 
Potentially lay it out. 

1653
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:51,280
Probably did. 
I'll lay it out for you. 

1654
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:54,720
So they going to break and the 
Johnnys looking good back to San

1655
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:56,840
Diego in a second. 
And as they're going to 

1656
01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:04,440
commercial break the music, you 
see Rick Pitino absolutely 

1657
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:07,920
eviscerating Lefty left topless.
I actually thought it was 

1658
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,160
darling, but then I it was 
Lefty. 

1659
01:22:10,440 --> 01:22:13,080
I think he missed it, went under
the screen or over the screen, 

1660
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:15,360
whatever it was. 
And there were people now, 

1661
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,120
people like me loved it. 
And, you know, a lot of the old 

1662
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:20,160
heads loved it. 
They were actually people who 

1663
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:23,080
were like, Oh my God, look at 
him. 

1664
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:25,800
This is so bad for the game. 
How do you coach? 

1665
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:28,000
He's so mean. 
You're up by 17 points. 

1666
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:32,040
Oh, get the fuck out of here. 
Are you serious, man? 

1667
01:22:32,480 --> 01:22:34,520
That's why Rick Pitino's 
amazing. 

1668
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:37,640
What's a coach supposed to do? 
You get a lollipop. 

1669
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,040
Yeah, Yeah. 
But I want to give you context 

1670
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:42,360
here. 
Like, they're like, if you're a 

1671
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,520
tyrant, OK. 
And that, that's not Rick. 

1672
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:45,720
I'm just saying that in general,
right? 

1673
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:48,000
Because a lot of people react to
the imagery of that. 

1674
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,240
Oh, my God, did this. 
You could still do this in 2026.

1675
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:52,640
Yeah. 
If you want to win, you could. 

1676
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:54,360
Yeah. 
And if you recruit, if you 

1677
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:57,760
recruit young men who are 
amenable to being coached hard, 

1678
01:22:57,760 --> 01:22:59,640
yeah, you could, because they 
are. 

1679
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:04,320
And the thing about Rick and 
about any coach, if you're going

1680
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:09,080
to be that way, it will be well 
received as long as the guys 

1681
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:13,400
know that you have their back. 
Now, when I tell you they 

1682
01:23:13,440 --> 01:23:17,080
freaking love him, they really 
look at him as like the the Don,

1683
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:18,600
like the head of the mafia, like
they do. 

1684
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:22,120
I mean, he's got. 
That vibe the suits everything. 

1685
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,040
The way he dresses, even when he
wears a sweat suit, you know, 

1686
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:27,480
like I love that he wears a 
regular suit when he coaches. 

1687
01:23:27,480 --> 01:23:30,840
But the way he's dressed, the 
way he walks, just the hair, 

1688
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:32,960
the, the way he really doesn't 
care what he says in a press 

1689
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:35,800
conference. 
And he's just so loose and so 

1690
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:37,680
honest and so transparent at 
this point. 

1691
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:41,960
And it's, it's beautiful to see.
Now if you are now Danny Hurley 

1692
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:43,920
can get away with that as well 
because he's got 2 

1693
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,520
championships. 
And Danny Hurley, his guys know 

1694
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,840
that, that they love him, that 
he loves them and that he has 

1695
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:51,840
their back. 
And when push comes to shove, 

1696
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:53,640
Danny's going to be right there 
standing up for them. 

1697
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,680
Much like remember when I 
remember when Hopkins got fouled

1698
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:58,840
up in Providence and you had 
that little melee. 

1699
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:00,400
Rick was right in the middle of 
it. 

1700
01:24:00,440 --> 01:24:02,000
I'm not throwing punches out, 
thank God. 

1701
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:05,520
But he, he was, he wasn't on, he
went Jeff Van Gundy on you on, 

1702
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:07,800
on Alonzo. 
He jumped in there a little bit.

1703
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:11,480
So it's just, it really is the 
perfect storm. 

1704
01:24:11,480 --> 01:24:14,960
It's the perfect timing where, 
you know, it just seemed like a 

1705
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:21,280
basketball renaissance to this 
extent was not achievable #1 #2 

1706
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:26,840
the fact that it's Rick and that
it's a New York guy and it's 

1707
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,040
full circle. 
Come on. 

1708
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:33,440
Queens, Long Island Billy 
Donovan, 87 Providence, you 

1709
01:24:33,440 --> 01:24:37,040
know, coach the Knicks, Mark 
Jackson, rookie of the year 

1710
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:41,760
under Pitino and, you know, gets
got in trouble and he owned it. 

1711
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:44,000
You know, Rick messed up. 
He's very transparent about 

1712
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:45,360
that. 
He's come back a very humble, 

1713
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:48,280
very different person. 
He's told me that in interviews.

1714
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:50,640
Like I've learned humility. 
I think we all do as we get a 

1715
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:51,840
little bit older. 
It's a great thing. 

1716
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,320
Humility and and awareness, 
self-awareness. 

1717
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:58,760
And he's like, yeah, I'm not 
going anywhere. 

1718
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,000
So all these stories that were 
written and maybe Rick at a 

1719
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:04,160
jump, Rick's not going anywhere.
Rick's coaching Saint John's 

1720
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:07,800
until he's done coaching. 
I do remember asking him when 

1721
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,800
when was this? 
When. 

1722
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:14,680
Oh, it was up in Providence. 
Not this year. 

1723
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:18,840
Last, remember the viral clip 
where he just he I don't want to

1724
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:21,040
just keep throwing F bombs out 
there, but he's like where the F

1725
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:22,720
is your heart? 
How the F will you raise? 

1726
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:27,040
I just. 
Watched that the other day. 

1727
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:29,800
I don't know, just to get me a 
little like give me a little 

1728
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:32,680
juice to threw my veins and it 
literally. 

1729
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:36,200
Got me injected baby. 
And now that night, that night 

1730
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,520
was one of my old. 
I'm sure Rick, you know, barely 

1731
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:40,280
remembers it. 
It was one of my all time 

1732
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:42,440
favorite nights because that 
night Zubi hit a game winner at 

1733
01:25:42,440 --> 01:25:44,400
the buzzer. 
It was an 830 tip up in 

1734
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:47,440
Providence and it was like 
December 23rd, I want to say. 

1735
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:50,640
And so it was right before 
Christmas and get like 

1736
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:54,160
83930103011 post game, get in 
the car. 

1737
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:57,000
I would have been getting in the
car around 12:30, you know, And 

1738
01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:59,200
my wife said just get a hotel, 
like just yeah. 

1739
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:00,280
And I'm like, you know what I'm 
going to. 

1740
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:02,320
But the team went back on the 
bus. 

1741
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:07,280
But the university got me a 
room, right, So I'm like, I got 

1742
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,160
no responsibility. 
I go take my suit off. 

1743
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:11,680
I I go down to the bar. 
I'm like, let me at least enjoy.

1744
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:13,520
I don't know anybody. 
Let me just have a beer. 

1745
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:15,840
And you know, I wound up talking
to a few Providence fans, great 

1746
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,480
people. 
And I look across the bar and 

1747
01:26:18,480 --> 01:26:21,560
there's Rick Pitino, right? 
It was right before Christmas, 

1748
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:25,200
as I said, and the his charter, 
the engine was frozen. 

1749
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,480
They couldn't de ice it. 
He was going to go to his one of

1750
01:26:27,480 --> 01:26:29,880
his other homes in Miami to 
spend Christmas with his family 

1751
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:32,200
and and fly. 
You know, the team was going 

1752
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,280
back to school and and and he 
was going to Miami. 

1753
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,360
So he wound up making a night of
it and I'm like, and I and I 

1754
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:39,160
knew him, but I didn't know him 
great yet. 

1755
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:41,400
I don't want to bother. 
I don't want to be up his ass. 

1756
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:44,800
And finally, I'm like, come on, 
you do the TV. 

1757
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:45,960
She got to go have a drink with 
him, right? 

1758
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,760
So I go over there and we wind 
up. 

1759
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,240
I mean, we closed the bar, 
right, And I never forget. 

1760
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:52,080
He's like, what are you 
drinking? 

1761
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:53,520
I'm like, I'm like Scotch, 
right? 

1762
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:55,840
So I think he I think he was 
having martinis. 

1763
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:59,240
So I go to grab my my wallet 
just like the Don puts it. 

1764
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:00,600
He's like, no, no, he's like, I 
got you. 

1765
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:02,760
I got you. 
And I remember asking him. 

1766
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:07,840
I'm like I said, would you ever 
coach anywhere else? 

1767
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:09,360
And we talked about St. 
John's and all that stuff. 

1768
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:12,000
I said, what about the NBA? 
Because I wasn't sure about 

1769
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:13,200
TomTom. 
Thibodeau was still the coach. 

1770
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:16,040
But I'm like, if it doesn't work
out with Tom Thibodeau and the 

1771
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:18,320
Knicks ever called you, would 
you ever do it? 

1772
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:21,120
And he's like, I can't, he's 
like, I'm, I'm, I don't have the

1773
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:22,240
energy anymore. 
He said. 

1774
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:24,920
He said, you see me coach every 
possession. 

1775
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:27,440
He's like, he can't do that in 
the NBA 82 times. 

1776
01:27:27,440 --> 01:27:30,520
I just, I'm, I'm too old. 
I don't have that that level of,

1777
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:35,000
of, of engagement necessary to 
coach in the NBA. 

1778
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:38,760
You know, and, and, and I got 
to, I got to really know him. 

1779
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:42,320
So when I saw him this morning, 
he, you know, the, the, the 

1780
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:45,400
coaches sit up front like the 
band and the cheerleaders are in

1781
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:46,840
the back, the players right 
behind the coach. 

1782
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:49,840
And then it's like some boosters
and some wives and some family 

1783
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:51,280
members. 
And I was right next to make 

1784
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:57,160
Madge was behind me and I, I, I 
was walking out. 

1785
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:59,800
Meanwhile, I'm looking at I'm 
looking at my, as I'm walking 

1786
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:03,120
out, I'm looking at my phone, 
seeing an interesting day here. 

1787
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:06,200
And Rick is the only one 
outside. 

1788
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:09,960
I think he was waiting for a car
to come pick him up and it's 

1789
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:11,240
just two of us. 
And he was like, he had his 

1790
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:13,560
Saint John's track jacket on, 
his track suit on. 

1791
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,080
And I looked, I go, I just go, I
go, you're the fucking man. 

1792
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:17,200
I go, you're the man. 
I go. 

1793
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:20,520
This is awesome dude. 
I never gave him so cool I. 

1794
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:22,040
Just gave him a hug. 
I'm like, this is awesome. 

1795
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:24,680
I said I'll see you in DC. 
And he told me like he and I 

1796
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:26,320
didn't want to bother him. 
I thought he was tired. 

1797
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:28,320
That's the thing about Rick, 
like he never gets. 

1798
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:32,720
He always has time for people. 
He says something like he goes 

1799
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:34,480
and I was starting to walk away 
again. 

1800
01:28:34,480 --> 01:28:37,880
I had other things on my mind. 
And as I'm walking away, he 

1801
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:40,240
goes, how about, how about big 
bells, darling? 

1802
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:43,160
He goes, how about darling? 
And he tells me again, because I

1803
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:44,720
don't know if he, maybe he 
didn't see me at the press 

1804
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:46,720
conference, maybe he didn't. 
He didn't know if I heard the 

1805
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:49,080
story. 
He's like, yeah, He's like he 

1806
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:51,160
came into the huddle. 
He said, coach, run the play for

1807
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:52,320
me. 
I forget what the play's called.

1808
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:55,440
Not stack, whatever it's called.
Let's just say it's stacked. 

1809
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:59,200
Coach, run stacked for me. 
I got it and one of the coaches 

1810
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:01,520
actually said to Rick, he's like
he hasn't made a shot all day 

1811
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:04,760
and Rick's like go for it. 
Yeah, I saw that press 

1812
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:06,920
conference. 
I I had to hit that with a like,

1813
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:09,680
it was probably like 1:00 AM 
just seeing that. 

1814
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:11,240
Oh, man. 
Yeah. 

1815
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:12,520
Man, I'll tell you the other 
thing too. 

1816
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:16,320
Good. 
OK, no, I mean the thing that I 

1817
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:20,080
saw last night, my favorite, I 
think Clipper moment was just 

1818
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:23,280
him, just the stone cold 
expression. 

1819
01:29:23,480 --> 01:29:27,440
And then he does like a little 
like a little lip quiver, little

1820
01:29:27,440 --> 01:29:32,440
lip like scrunch when darling 
hit that hit the buzzer beater. 

1821
01:29:32,440 --> 01:29:34,920
Just cold, stoic. 
A man. 

1822
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:39,560
A man absolutely possessed. 
Absolutely, dude. 

1823
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:42,040
This is a big week, by the way, 
so we got to find a way to make 

1824
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,320
sure we weave in a lot of Saint 
John's and a lot of Yanks and 

1825
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:45,520
Mets here. 
Man, Yeah, wait. 

1826
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:47,360
I am ready for some baseball 
too. 

1827
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:49,600
Let's go. 
I mean, it's so exciting. 

1828
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:50,560
I can't wait. 
It's going. 

1829
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:53,960
To be I am ready for some 
baseball I think tomorrow. 

1830
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:58,720
I started working on this on the
plane. 55 things for each 5 for 

1831
01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:02,880
the Yanks, 5 for the Mets, like 
5 season defining things that 

1832
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:04,880
I'm that I'm really looking for.
We'll do that on the show 

1833
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:06,600
tomorrow. 
A lot of baseball tomorrow. 

1834
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:11,120
God, I but is it I I believe 
that maybe somebody could text 

1835
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:12,200
this. 
I know that the Yankees are on 

1836
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:14,400
Netflix. 
I don't I don't believe that 

1837
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:17,800
Gary and the Mets crew has do 
they have the game on Snyi feel 

1838
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:21,800
like I saw that on social media.
Somebody confirmed that. 

1839
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:23,520
I don't, I don't, I don't want 
to be out of bounds on that. 

1840
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:25,080
But if that I know the Yankees 
aren't. 

1841
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:30,840
So to me that's a problem like. 
The Yankees Winston is crazy. 

1842
01:30:31,480 --> 01:30:33,000
Yeah. 
Well, James Winston, he's well, 

1843
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:35,040
he's doing the baseball stuff 
now, which is not a bit higher. 

1844
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:36,640
He played college baseball, 
Florida. 

1845
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:39,560
OK, yeah, yeah. 
And he's a great personality. 

1846
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:41,680
Kind of odd that you got to tap 
into football to bring 

1847
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:44,920
personality into the booth, But,
and I think Bonds is going to be

1848
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:47,200
good actually doing this stuff 
too. 

1849
01:30:47,440 --> 01:30:48,120
Bonds. 
Oh yeah, that'll. 

1850
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:49,240
Be cool. 
I do. 

1851
01:30:49,480 --> 01:30:52,560
But the fact that you know, and 
if you can, I just want to know 

1852
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:56,120
where the Mets opening day, what
channel they're on but for the 

1853
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:59,120
Yankees to be on. 
And I love Netflix, but come on,

1854
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:00,880
how UN American are we getting 
here? 

1855
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:04,080
Like you got to have the you got
to have every Major League team.

1856
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:05,720
I know things are changing with 
streams. 

1857
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:07,960
I get it. 
I we stream all the time here, 

1858
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:14,200
big stream family, but to not 
have on conventional television 

1859
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:17,000
opening day, the Yanks and the 
Mets. 

1860
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:20,840
I know the Yankees aren't, but 
either way, and and also 

1861
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:21,920
because, you know, I've been 
busy. 

1862
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:24,920
Shout out to Howie Rose. 
I saw that Howie last year in 

1863
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:26,240
the booth. 
I think Howie's great. 

1864
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:28,400
I love him. 
I think the thing that how he 

1865
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:36,760
does probably better than than 
anybody really that that I've 

1866
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:40,440
heard do baseball and I don't 
know how we very personally very

1867
01:31:40,440 --> 01:31:42,440
well at all. 
I think Sam and I may have had 

1868
01:31:42,440 --> 01:31:46,520
him on once or twice. 
Just always been an admirer from

1869
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:48,440
a distance. 
Don't pretend to have any sort 

1870
01:31:48,440 --> 01:31:50,800
of relationship with Howie 
outside of admiration, good at 

1871
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:52,920
his job, all timer, stuff like 
that, right. 

1872
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:57,560
But even as a obviously Yankee 
fan, like I love listening to 

1873
01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:01,320
Howie Rose on the radio. 
I think his best skill and I 

1874
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:03,200
think the thing that he does 
better than everybody in the 

1875
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:05,240
business, not that I've heard 
everybody, but everybody that 

1876
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:11,200
I've heard, is that he so 
seamlessly weaves in a story and

1877
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:16,320
then and the pitch, like his 
history and his ability to 

1878
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:22,680
expand and like it'll be a whole
story woven within like 2 at 

1879
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:24,560
bats. 
Here's the pitch, foul ball 

1880
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:27,960
Tapper, right side, pop up left 
field, back to the story. 

1881
01:32:28,240 --> 01:32:30,440
Like you really just feel like 
you're listening to a guy tell a

1882
01:32:30,440 --> 01:32:33,160
story and he's happening. 
He's doing a game as well. 

1883
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:37,240
Very he's awesome. 
So I hope someone confirmed. 

1884
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:39,960
It, NBC and Peacock has the Mets
open. 

1885
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:43,400
Yeah, I mean, come on, man. 
Between St. 

1886
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:45,520
John's and UConn being on 
Peacock, the Mets being on 

1887
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:48,960
Peacock and the Yankees being on
Netflix, I mean, my God. 

1888
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:52,960
A little different from Dix. 
Yeah, yeah, a little different 

1889
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:55,600
from the Scooter and and 
Connor's corner back in the day.

1890
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:58,120
Channel 9. 
Oh, my God. 

1891
01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:00,520
I have not slept at all. 
You know, my, my, my least 

1892
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:03,840
favorite thing is, and I get, I 
don't get anxious about much. 

1893
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:08,800
I don't get much anxiety. 
I get anxious about packing and 

1894
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:11,480
I get anxious about unpacking. 
I, I don't know why. 

1895
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:14,600
Like I'm already thinking now 
I'm going to drive down to DC. 

1896
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:18,960
That'll be much easier. 
But I was like all my shorts 

1897
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:19,960
are, I don't even know where 
though. 

1898
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:21,400
I don't even know where my wife 
puts them. 

1899
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:24,720
Like somewhere like like in our 
workout room, there's like to 

1900
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:27,400
the side, there's like these big
buckets of shorts and shirts. 

1901
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:30,640
Like I'm, I'm, I'm thinking San 
Diego is going to be 80 every 

1902
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:32,720
day, you know, do I try to play 
golf? 

1903
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:35,560
Do I bring a couple of shorts? 
I, I didn't, I couldn't find 

1904
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:37,280
them and then I just got busy 
and I didn't bring them. 

1905
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:39,160
So I didn't pack, right? 
Yeah. 

1906
01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:41,840
Yeah, I get old, man. 
You're not comfortable with that

1907
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:43,160
stuff. 
Sure, sure, sure. 

1908
01:33:43,440 --> 01:33:45,240
What else, Jay? 
Did we miss anything? 

1909
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:48,800
Do we need to circle back to 
anything You you tell me there. 

1910
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:51,600
Like, do I treat you well as my 
producer, Jay? 

1911
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:57,000
No, I'm in a sweatshop chained 
to a wall until I create a 

1912
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:59,320
certain amount of clips. 
And that, no, of course you 

1913
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:01,800
treat me well. 
Of course you treat me well. 

1914
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:05,720
I mean, this has been even thus 
far, and I've said it before on 

1915
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:08,760
the show, so I don't mean to, 
you know, as the kids say, be a 

1916
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:11,720
Glazer here. 
Oh, Glazer. 

1917
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:13,320
Yeah, the kids say that. 
I hear the. 

1918
01:34:13,440 --> 01:34:15,120
Yeah, I don't. 
Mean to be sunset, I don't 

1919
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:16,760
think. 
He's a BT Glazer. 

1920
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:20,080
Here I know nobody glazes me. 
I mean, I'll take. 

1921
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:21,840
A. 
Little glaze here. 

1922
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:24,600
I guess if anything, somebody 
was trying to shit on me today. 

1923
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:28,600
I'll take a little glaze. 
No, I like you know, I'll say 

1924
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:31,800
this again and again. 
This experience producing this 

1925
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:38,200
show has thus far been an the 
not only the career experience 

1926
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:41,720
of my my lifetime so far where, 
you know, you really feel like, 

1927
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:44,280
OK, we're doing something where 
we're taking off, you know, 

1928
01:34:44,440 --> 01:34:47,200
where it really feels like I'm 
getting a starting point, but 

1929
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:50,640
it's also just it's been. 
It's been such an. 

1930
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:53,960
Addition to my personal life, 
into my life as well. 

1931
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:57,160
I look forward to it every day. 
That's awesome, dude. 

1932
01:34:57,240 --> 01:34:59,120
I mean, of course, of course, 
dude. 

1933
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:01,360
So there's not like there's no 
question about that. 

1934
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:04,760
I look forward to it every day. 
Such an additive to my life. 

1935
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:06,840
And also I just love getting to 
know you. 

1936
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:10,640
It's a it's a great time. 
I love the fun we have so. 

1937
01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:12,640
I'm so happy you're here, man. 
I mean that. 

1938
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:14,680
I really, really mean that. 
Like one. 

1939
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:16,680
Yes, there's no doubt. 
I feel it. 

1940
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:18,800
I feel it. 
You're a you're a soldier, man. 

1941
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:21,520
You're a foxhole guy. 
You're, you know, I text you 

1942
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:23,600
something, you know, it's done 
right away. 

1943
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:26,440
You're invested in the show 
emotionally, you're connected. 

1944
01:35:26,440 --> 01:35:28,200
We're connected. 
It's just starting out. 

1945
01:35:29,440 --> 01:35:32,840
And and, and, you know, I, I 
generally don't get involved in 

1946
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:34,280
the stuff, guys. 
I I really don't. 

1947
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:36,240
But I had to talk about that one
aspect here. 

1948
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:39,240
And, you know, listen, there, 
there were a couple things that 

1949
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:40,600
that Greg said they were 
probably true. 

1950
01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:42,480
Yeah. 
I think I did take things too 

1951
01:35:42,480 --> 01:35:44,480
seriously when I was a little 
bit younger, you know, didn't 

1952
01:35:44,480 --> 01:35:45,680
really know how to laugh at 
myself. 

1953
01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:49,600
But I think, I think I've grown.
I think I've evolved a little 

1954
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:50,600
bit. 
I'm proud of that. 

1955
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:53,240
Still work in progress, you 
know, But the one thing that I 

1956
01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:57,920
will take to the grave is that, 
you know, I do try to, I do try 

1957
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:00,120
to treat people the right way. 
And I think that that's pretty 

1958
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:01,840
evident. 
I think that I think that you 

1959
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:04,440
guys can feel that. 
I think people that know me know

1960
01:36:04,440 --> 01:36:08,240
that no one's perfect. 
No doubt I've had my explosions 

1961
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:11,360
like everybody. 
You know, I, it's funny, I tell 

1962
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:15,480
my kids what what you do, what 
you do when nobody's watching. 

1963
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:17,520
I say this to them. 
I mean, I say a lot of stuff to 

1964
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:18,400
them. 
They're probably they're 

1965
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:21,280
probably exhausted of it. 
Work hard, have fun, be a 

1966
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:22,600
leader. 
I've got all these sayings in 

1967
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:26,800
the morning, right. 
Say more to more to my son, like

1968
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:29,480
when we're practicing baseball, 
like, hey, you know what you do 

1969
01:36:29,480 --> 01:36:31,800
when when nobody's watching 
determines what happens when 

1970
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:34,400
everybody's watching. 
But that's really that's just 

1971
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:37,720
like pertaining to sports in the
grand scheme, that doesn't mean 

1972
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:40,000
much. 
I think that that's very 

1973
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:42,640
transferable to life. 
I believe that, you know what, 

1974
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:46,320
what you do when nobody's 
watching, you know, really 

1975
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:50,440
determines, I think how people 
will most people will view you. 

1976
01:36:50,440 --> 01:36:53,280
And I've always been, I got this
from my parents and I'm proud of

1977
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:55,800
this. 
And I try to instill this in my 

1978
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:58,560
kids. 
And you know, I'm just, I'm 

1979
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:01,560
going to be the guy where if I'm
getting into an elevator, I'm 

1980
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:04,440
going to hold it for you. 
Not just the women and children,

1981
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:06,880
grown man as well. 
I'm going to say thank you, 

1982
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:09,120
going to say excuse me if I bump
into you by accident. 

1983
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:11,760
I'm going to try to be a good 
dude, you know, and I'm 

1984
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:15,000
confident that I am. 
So the character stuff that that

1985
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:17,200
Greg got into, that's the only 
thing. 

1986
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:20,120
If it wasn't that, I wouldn't, I
wouldn't have even touched it 

1987
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:23,600
because I would not have cared. 
So that's a wrap on that. 

1988
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:25,320
All right, there we go. 
Let. 

1989
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:31,120
Me bounce more super chat Funny.
Gio needs to be a boomer Glazer 

1990
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:34,080
to be relevant. 
Uh oh, that's kind of cruel. 

1991
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:36,520
The second line. 
See, but I I don't get it. 

1992
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:37,840
What did you say? 
You got bullet I, don't I. 

1993
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:39,160
Don't. 
But now he thinks he's caught 

1994
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:41,160
45. 
You know, but then if I start 

1995
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:43,840
doing that, you know, or, or 
like kind of leaning into a game

1996
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:46,680
that, that I'm, you know, that 
I'm not gonna play, you know 

1997
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:48,640
what I mean? 
So I don't know. 

1998
01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:51,920
I, I don't know him again up 
until today or up until I found 

1999
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:55,000
out that he pranked me, I never 
had never had an issue with 

2000
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:56,160
Greg. 
I really didn't. 

2001
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:57,400
I'd never had an issue with 
Greg. 

2002
01:37:57,720 --> 01:37:59,880
And you know, I'm done saying 
what I had to say. 

2003
01:37:59,920 --> 01:38:03,600
He could keep going. 
I, I, I said what was important 

2004
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:07,120
to me because I wanted you to 
hear that from me. 

2005
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:10,160
So we're going to bounce. 
I got to unpack. 

2006
01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:12,200
I got a lot of stuff to do, a 
lot of homework here. 

2007
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:15,880
Sweet 16, which is what really 
matters for Saint John's 

2008
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:19,320
baseball this week. 
My God, now the channel starts 

2009
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:20,800
to blow up. 
I can't wait. 

2010
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:23,440
I cannot wait. 
I felt bad that I was a little 

2011
01:38:23,440 --> 01:38:25,480
bit out of pocket when I when I 
was in San Diego. 

2012
01:38:25,480 --> 01:38:28,000
Like with the live show. 
I know I did some live hits with

2013
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:30,760
Mink and I did some stuff. 
I did a live reaction after the 

2014
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:34,840
game yesterday, but don't think 
for a second that my mind wasn't

2015
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:36,960
on unleashed. 
I'm like, you know, the live 

2016
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:38,160
show. 
I got to get back to it. 

2017
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:42,400
So I was a little little uneasy 
about that because we we did lay

2018
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:44,000
a nice foundation. 
You guys have been great. 

2019
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:47,080
You guys been rolling with me 
from day one and let's keep 

2020
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:49,400
growing like it. 
Subscribe it, get that traction 

2021
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:51,040
out there. 
Let's have a little fun. 

2022
01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:54,040
Lot of baseball tomorrow, lot of
Yanks, lot of Mets. 

2023
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:57,120
Obviously Johnny's a theme all 
week. 

2024
01:38:57,120 --> 01:38:59,680
Cannot wait. 
So Levy bounce, I got to come. 

2025
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:01,200
I don't know if I'm going to 
take a nap. 

2026
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:02,040
I don't know if I'm going to 
work. 

2027
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:04,760
I don't know what I'm going to 
do man, but I am definitely 

2028
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:06,040
going to go. 
So have an awesome. 

2029
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:06,960
Is it Monday? 
What is it? 

2030
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:08,680
Monday? 
It's Monday, right Monday it's 

2031
01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:09,800
Monday. 
It's got to be Monday. 

2032
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:12,360
It's Monday. 
Have a great rest of you Monday.

2033
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:16,200
I appreciate you guys and I will
check you out tomorrow at 10 

2034
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:18,160
right here on unleashed. 
I'll see you. 

2035
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:29,880
Bye. 
This is on leash. 

2036
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:31,120
Are you listening? 
Can you hear me? 

2037
01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:32,400
Hear me. 
This is on leash. 

2038
01:39:32,440 --> 01:39:33,680
Are you listening? 
Can you hear me? 

2039
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:34,920
Hear me. 
This is on leash. 

2040
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:36,160
Are you listening? 
Can you hear me? 

2041
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:37,400
Hear me. 
This is on leash. 

2042
01:39:37,480 --> 01:39:38,680
Are you listening? 
Can you hear me? 

2043
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:41,000
This is on leash. 
Are. 

2044
01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:43,600
You listening?
